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Turns Out, Trump Did Call Democrat Leaders Before the Strike.
Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries Was Just Too Busy to Pick Up the Phone.

Schumer did pick up the phone, but somehow did not leak advanced word to Iran.

CNN tried to stir controversy by reporting that while House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune were briefed ahead of time, Democrat leaders Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries were only informed shortly before the public announcement, after the operation had already taken place. But as White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt explained on Fox News, this was nothing more than a misleading narrative designed to distract from a major American victory. Leavitt didn't just push back; she dismantled the lie piece by piece.

"We did make bipartisan calls," Leavitt stated, setting the record straight from the outset. "Thomas Massie and the Democrats -- he should be a Democrat 'cause he's more aligned with them than with the Republican Party -- were given notice. The White House made calls to congressional leadership. They were bipartisan calls."

The White House, contrary to the manufactured narrative, conducted its due diligence and reached out to leaders on both sides of the aisle. The administration's outreach efforts were comprehensive, but in a detail that speaks volumes, the top Democrat in the House was apparently unavailable to take a call of such national security importance.

Leavitt revealed the specifics of the outreach, exposing the disingenuous nature of the complaints.

"In fact, Hakeem Jeffries couldn't be reached," she explained. "We tried him before the strike and he didn't pick up the phone, but he was briefed after, as well as Chuck Schumer was briefed prior to the strike."

As to Massie: Trump has declared war on him and will support a primary challenger.

President Donald Trump tore into Rep. Thomas Massie on Sunday, blasting the Kentucky congressman for siding with Democrats and opposing a decisive U.S. military operation that crippled three of Iran's most critical nuclear facilities.

"Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky is not MAGA, even though he likes to say he is," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "Actually, MAGA doesn't want him, doesn't know him, and doesn't respect him."

Trump accused Massie of consistently opposing critical Republican policies and likened him to "Rand Paul, Jr." for his habit of voting no on major legislation. Trump blasted him as "a simple-minded grandstander" and said Massie was playing into Iran's hands by trying to block efforts to prevent the Islamic regime from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

"Iran has killed and maimed thousands of Americans," Trump wrote. "This 'lightweight' Congressman is against what was so brilliantly achieved last night in Iran," referring to the military operation he authorized.

On CBS's Face the Nation Sunday, Massie defended his position, stating, "We were tired of endless wars in the Middle East... we should have debated this war powers resolution instead of staying on vacation." He argued Congress should reclaim its constitutional authority over war decisions.

Trump dismissed that argument outright. "Massie should drop his fake act and start putting America First, but he doesn't know how to get there -- he doesn't have a clue!" he said, adding that Massie is "disrespectful to our great military."

The president ended the post with a vow: "The good news is that we will have a wonderful American Patriot running against him in the Republican Primary, and I'll be out in Kentucky campaigning really hard."

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1 !

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (v0R5T)

2 FIRST WITH THE MOST

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (iFTx/)

3 First

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (Lhvai)

4 2 FIRST WITH THE MOST
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (iFTx/)

NOW YOU DIE!!!

Posted by: The Kurgan at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (Lhvai)

5 I prefer the story that he didn't.

It entertained me more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

6 I'm just super happy that we have finally invented a foolproof way to kill gophers.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

7 In just a month, Democrats have sided with:
- Illegal immigrant criminals
- Violent rioters
- Trans degenerates
- Iranian mullahs

I'm not even mad. That's amazing.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (O9qN1)

8 I like Trump's updating of the fireside speech.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (rJ48h)

9 It's great that Trump is dropping Massive Penetrators [giggle] on Massie. But will it work? I thought Massie was deep in KY politics with the GOPe machine, and thus very safe.

How do we get rid of this dracunculus?

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

10 5 I prefer the story that he didn't.

It entertained me more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

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#MeToo

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (PMtkd)

11 I'm just super happy that we have finally invented a foolproof way to kill gophers.

Think like a gopher. Pfffft.

Posted by: Karl Spackler at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (Riz8t)

12 Wait, CNN took a Democratic lie and ran with it unquestionably? Well, I never.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (CwhoI)

13
massie:

opposes tax cuts

supports Iran

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (DCmYx)

14 "I've found life is simpler when you immediately take everything a Democrat says or writes to be a big fat stinkin' lie.

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (aBgBM)"

Willowed on the previous thread, still 100%valid on this one! Twofer!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (alnxS)

15 CNN lied?

This is unheard of.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (/CkK4)

16 9 It's great that Trump is dropping Massive Penetrators [giggle] on Massie. But will it work? I thought Massie was deep in KY politics with the GOPe machine, and thus very safe.

How do we get rid of this dracunculus?
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

=====

It might work with Trump stumping for Massie's primary opponent.

The RNC probably won't give Massie any money.

The RCCC will probably stay out of it.

Massie has his own fundraising, but Trump fundraising for an opponent should bring in a lot of money.

I don't think it's a slam dunk. Massie wins his primaries pretty easily. But we'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

17 "In just a month, Democrats have sided with:
- Illegal immigrant criminals
- Violent rioters
- Trans degenerates
- Iranian mullahs

I'm not even mad. That's amazing.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo"

We've come to expect the worst from the lefty lunatics.

Posted by: A Boomer at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (vFG9F)

18 I'm just super happy that we have finally invented a foolproof way to kill gophers.
Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

What a waste of a Carl Spackler sock.

😠

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (89Sog)

19 Pimpin ain't easy y'all

Posted by: Hakim Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (t0Rmr)

20 I'm with Massie before I'm with Trump, on spending, on citizen rights, on federal land, and most certainly on another decade of foreign interventionism. I appreciate Trump and am glad I was able to help elect him (my vote actually counted in 2024 since I moved to a swing state) but he is looking like what his right-wing detractors (actual right wing detractors, not RINO and NeverTrump squishes) accused him of. I'm confident he'll right the ship, but I'm glad there's been so much pushback on this saber rattling, and I hope Massie handily defeats whatever New-York-money backed challenger they send his way.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (An3vV)

21 That's going to cause a rift with the media. If the D's won't share top-secret military plans with you, who can you trust?!

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (ojv3z)

22 So, Schumer forgot to turn on the grill again???

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Oy/m2)

23 Thomas Massie is the Yassir Arafat of the GOPe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (sZI8v)

24 12 Yes they repeat the lies told to them unquestionably by any anti American organization....

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (YwEeS)

25 20 I'm with Massie before I'm with Trump, on spending, on citizen rights, on federal land, and most certainly on another decade of foreign interventionism. I appreciate Trump and am glad I was able to help elect him (my vote actually counted in 2024 since I moved to a swing state) but he is looking like what his right-wing detractors (actual right wing detractors, not RINO and NeverTrump squishes) accused him of. I'm confident he'll right the ship, but I'm glad there's been so much pushback on this saber rattling, and I hope Massie handily defeats whatever New-York-money backed challenger they send his way.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (An3vV)

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Massie voted for Biden's debt ceiling increase.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

26 Thomas Massie is the Yassir Arafat of the GOPe.

Well, he doesn't have AIDS or a penchant for little boys.

That we know of.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (t0Rmr)

27
Well, massie isn't "with" you.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (DCmYx)

28 Kentucky has also given us The Turtle and other varying species of RINOs. Also has a Democratic governor.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (CwhoI)

29 If I were tru p - or any president really - I wouldn’t call anyone in congress. If there’s one body of people likely to sell out their country it’s congress.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (/CkK4)

30 MILF cleavage is back!

Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (od0dV)

31 I'm just super happy that we have finally invented a foolproof way to kill gophers.
Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

What a waste of a Carl Spackler sock.

😠


*cough*

Posted by: #11 at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (Riz8t)

32 chuckie Schumer I guess is trying to play both sides.

As long he does not foul up and kill Americans, I can let it slide.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:35 PM (sZI8v)

33
It's one thing to disagree, but another thing to go on CNN and talk shit.

massie is fucking garbage.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:35 PM (DCmYx)

34 As a matter of OpSec I wouldn't want to inform the traitorous Democrat leadership either. Might as well call the Ayatollah directly.

Posted by: Enemy agents the lot of them at June 23, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

35 Wait, CNN took a Democratic lie and ran with it unquestionably? Well, I never.
Posted by: Citizen Cake


Cue the “girlfriend looking at her guy who’s looking at another girl” meme.
-Hamas Ministry of Health

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 01:35 PM (yC5D1)

36 chuckie Schumer I guess is trying to play both sides.

As long he does not foul up and kill Americans, I can let it slide.


Hey, you voted for Trump right? Want one of my cheeseburgers straight off the grill? Extra pink just for you!

Posted by: Chuckles Schumer at June 23, 2025 01:35 PM (t0Rmr)

37 Hakeem was busy trying to Dox ICE agents and couldn't be bothered to answer the phone.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 23, 2025 01:36 PM (lIJEN)

38 ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (An3vV)

Replies calling you an anti American communist troll in 5…4….3…

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:36 PM (/CkK4)

39 "Massie was deep in KY politics with the GOPe machine"

That sounds dirty.

Posted by: guy who thinks everything sound dirty at June 23, 2025 01:36 PM (vFG9F)

40 "On CBS's Face the Nation Sunday, Massie defended his position, stating, "We were tired of endless wars in the Middle East..."

Hey dickweed, every American with more than half a brain is sick of Iran being at war with the US for 46 years. How about we finally end it by us decisively winning, dickhead?

We know you'll never vote for a declaration of war anyway, so sit down and spend all your time fantasizing more about being forked by Mayor Buttplug.

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:36 PM (aBgBM)

41 38 ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (An3vV)

Replies calling you an anti American communist troll in 5…4….3…
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:36 PM (/CkK4)

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Massie supports increased government spending when Biden wants it. He opposes increased government spending when Trump wants it.

Gotta love them principles.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

42 It's great that Trump is dropping Massive Penetrators [giggle] on Massie. But will it work? I thought Massie was deep in KY politics with the GOPe machine, and thus very safe.

How do we get rid of this dracunculus?
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

=====

It might work with Trump stumping for Massie's primary opponent.

The RNC probably won't give Massie any money.

The RCCC will probably stay out of it.

Massie has his own fundraising, but Trump fundraising for an opponent should bring in a lot of money.

I don't think it's a slam dunk. Massie wins his primaries pretty easily. But we'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)
______

Any lack of fundraising from RNC and RCCC will probably be made up -- and then some -- from leftwing foreign sources looking to sabotage Trump's favored pick. But ... who knows? I don't know how much such money is still out there.

Massie can suck assie. But I don't think it will be easy to remove him. Especially so long Turtle still has power there.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

43 Hakeem was busy playing Spades with Obama and Reggie in the Martha's Vineyard Situation Room and Bathhouse.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (nFkGo)

44 Schumer did pick up the phone, but somehow did not leak advanced word to Iran.

Impeach!

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (emDE2)

45 We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran, strapped to a GBU-57.

Blacks in America have it worse than women or gays in Iran?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (sZI8v)

46 Trump called Massie a bum. LOL

Maybe because he's rocking an unkept beard?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (/U5Yz)

47
massie, like mccain, is way to eager to give Republican Voters the finger and gloat about it, and go on Fake News and smile about his fake muh principles bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (DCmYx)

48 too

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (DCmYx)

49 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 19m
BREAKING: U.S. President Donald Trump is currently in the White House Situation Room, monitoring Iranian retaliation.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 20h
It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (2yoRf)

50
Massie voted for Biden's debt ceiling increase.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)


Well, you've got your soundbite, haven't you? Why did he do that?

https://tinyurl.com/454bkdyj


Well, massie isn't "with" you.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (DCmYx)


Massie is the only sane voice in congress on spending. God bless and protect him.

No war in Iran.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (An3vV)

51 Hey! Ho!
Massie
Got To Go!

{chanted while waving my MAGA hat!}

Posted by: AlecK at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (cMlC1)

52 Oh noes! One of the "Top Blu-Ray Rentals" at my DVD rental service is … Snow White. Sure, Jan.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

53 42 Any lack of fundraising from RNC and RCCC will probably be made up -- and then some -- from leftwing foreign sources looking to sabotage Trump's favored pick. But ... who knows? I don't know how much such money is still out there.

Massie can suck assie. But I don't think it will be easy to remove him. Especially so long Turtle still has power there.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

=====

I think money would only matter in terms of raising the profile of the opponent at that level.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

54 Why didn't Bush 2.0 just invade Iran in the first place?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (mlg/3)

55 Massie can suck assie. But I don't think it will be easy to remove him. Especially so long Turtle still has power there.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the power of the McConnell machine when he sits upon his final fence post.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (Riz8t)

56 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

57 Massie is a limp wrist attention whore who somehow was elected, soon to be unelected.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (5M/Mg)

58 48 too
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The loneliest number except for thru??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (2yoRf)

59 Why didn't Bush 2.0 just invade Iran in the first place?

You mean Obama? He was too busy losing "the good war" in 'Stan by bringing in the feminists and kiddie diddlers.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (t0Rmr)

60 50 Massie is the only sane voice in congress on spending. God bless and protect him.

No war in Iran.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (An3vV)

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So, he votes to increase Democrat spending but uses small government rhetoric and that fools you?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

61
No war in Iran.



Someone really should've told the Iranians this.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

62 FIRST WITH THE MOST
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade


First with the MOIST? Sandra Fluke are you socking Elric?

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (yC5D1)

63 Iran declared war in 1979

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (sZI8v)

64 >>Schumer did pick up the phone, but somehow did not leak advanced word to Iran.


I tried to dammit! I couldn't find my cheaters and couldn't see to dial my Iranian contact at the UN!

Posted by: Chuck S. at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (aBgBM)

65 @16

>>I don't think it's a slam dunk. Massie wins his primaries pretty easily. But we'll see.

Elections, in the main, are largely "fortified," there may be less fortification in GOP locales, but it exists.

If Thomas Massies constituents are happy with his service and performance, he will be re-elected.

In 2024 he ran unopposed and got 99.6pct of the vote.

Typically, he beats primary and general opponents 3:1.

So, as they say, we shall see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (XV/Pl)

66 Speaking of Massie I occasionally enjoy videos of barnacles being removed from turtles and lobsters. They make a most satisfying crunch. Massie is a barnacle.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (jM63s)

67 Breaking news that Iran has launched ballistic missile attack on US interests in ME. Looks to me like non-attack attack for domestic consumption, probably face-saving prelude to negotiated conditional surrender (labeled something else)

Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (hlNLQ)

68 I was with Fani Willis at the time. Cut me some slack.

Posted by: Hakeem The Dream Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (yVvK4)

69 So, he votes to increase Democrat spending but uses small government rhetoric and that fools you?

Has Massie bothered to explain this?

It always amazes me how many GOPers have to vote against Trump because of muh sacred principles but never voted against Biden/Obama

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)

70 Why didn't Bush 2.0 just invade Iran in the first place?

===

They made threats and would not stand down. Even after the UN passed the resolution. Bush even got Russia and China to abstain to pass it. He was given every chance. Stupid. Thought the US was joking.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (g47mK)

71 So, he votes to increase Democrat spending but uses small government rhetoric and that fools you?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

You have a soundbite and you'll bleat it til teatime, that's fine. I didn't start following politics last week.

Good luck Horde.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (An3vV)

72 I have a question. The President is very unlikely to call me, but does Hakeem Jeffries ( whom I don't like) have a notification on his phone that a call is coming in from the President (?) because if I don't recognize the number I may not answer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (2GCMq)

73
It will be interesting to see what happens to the power of the McConnell machine when he sits upon his final fence post.
Posted by: Archimedes


I'm surprised the Turtle is still with us. The last time a saw a video of him he looked like a zombie.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (/U5Yz)

74 Massie voted for Biden's debt ceiling increase.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

It's never about the issue or facts, it's always about proving Never Trump right, eventually, almost... well kinda sorta, someday they'll get him... and you'll know we we're right about him all along, you Orange Man Bad Cult fools!!

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (6ydKt)

75 We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran

That is absolutely a 'no'...

Posted by: The Geneva Convention at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (aah8C)

76 Massie can suck assie. But I don't think it will be easy to remove him. Especially so long Turtle still has power there.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the power of the McConnell machine when he sits upon his final fence post.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:38 PM (Riz8t)
_______

Yea. I'm not sure if Turtle is an institution such that even after he's gone he still wields power, like Obama was, or just one guy without any regime or coattails. I don't know enough about KY politics.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (iFTx/)

77 By "he" I mead Saddam, of course. Not good at diplomacy.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (g47mK)

78 Replies calling you an anti American communist troll in 5…4….3…
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I see you've been on X recently! You missed "execute the traitor" though.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (2yoRf)

79 Again, as long as the US role remains precision air strikes and plausibly deniable SOF actions, everything will be hunky dory, BOTG is a red line.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (XV/Pl)

80 I like Massie, and I respect his broader constitutional argument regarding the President's war-making powers.

But he picked the way wrong time to make an issue of this; and his comments yesterday about "the Israel lobby" are not a good look.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (jGGMD)

81 Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (hlNLQ)

That’s what I’m hoping for.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (trxIx)

82 Good luck Horde.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (An3vV)

What are you wishing us good luck for?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (2GCMq)

83 Massie is great at wagging his big red baboon butt of political purity but not much else. Must be good at constituent serviceds.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (pwtJC)

84 For the record I strongly oppose any military action against Iran, well, at least any action that makes the fleet go out to sea.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)

85 69 So, he votes to increase Democrat spending but uses small government rhetoric and that fools you?

Has Massie bothered to explain this?

It always amazes me how many GOPers have to vote against Trump because of muh sacred principles but never voted against Biden/Obama
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)

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It's in the link the other commenter provided.

"Some of them think you blow it up in the House, you march Kevin back over to the White House and you put him back in the room with Biden and he comes out with something that’s miraculously better. I don’t think that’s the next step,” Massie told conservative media personality Glenn Beck. “I think what happens next is McConnell and [Chuck] Schumer say, ‘You guys are done playing around – we’re going to get this done.”

Which amounts to, "This is imperfect, but better than the alternative." Which is fine. but then he opposed Trump's imperfect as well.

Because principles.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

86 Do any of our bombers have enough capacity for a whoopie?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (6iGXV)

87
How Hakeem Jeffries Fooled my Colon Into Believing Lies
By Jake Tapper

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (E0p3T)

88 To put it in perspective, the War on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as other ME actions starting in 2002 and ending in 2022 cost a total of less than 3 trillion over that 20 year period. We spent 6 trillion in COVID 'relief' in just six months and about 14 trillion in 5 years.

From 2006 to 2020 of the war on terror we've lost more soldiers in training accidents than in combat.

These are not support or opposition facts but again just for perspective purposes.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (VofaG)

89 71 You have a soundbite and you'll bleat it til teatime, that's fine. I didn't start following politics last week.

Good luck Horde.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (An3vV)

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Votes matter.

Dude voted against cuts to Medicaid that force off illegals because it's not conservative, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

90 Why are these dem idiots (including on this blog) screaming about "no war in Iran when there isn't even an American shoe in Iran. No one is going over there, Trump isn't sending anyone over there. Our planes fly there with impunity. Israel will take care of the mopping up. Just STFU until something actually happens.

Posted by: Megthered at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (GOJbT)

91 No war in Iran.

We've been at war with Iran since 1979. The only thing the US government can do is either end it or continue allowing them to kill Americans when/where they choose.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (ExV1e)

92 You mean Obama?
Posted by: 18-1


No, I mean the human robot called George Walker Bush. He was a president of the US. The US stand for United States.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (mlg/3)

93 I'm with Massie before I'm with Trump, on spending, on citizen rights, on federal land, and most certainly on another decade of foreign interventionism. I appreciate Trump and am glad I was able to help elect him (my vote actually counted in 2024 since I moved to a swing state) but he is looking like what his right-wing detractors (actual right wing detractors, not RINO and NeverTrump squishes) accused him of. I'm confident he'll right the ship, but I'm glad there's been so much pushback on this saber rattling, and I hope Massie handily defeats whatever New-York-money backed challenger they send his way.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:33 PM (An3vV)

Except Massie hasn't done anything, he's all talk and isolating himself from the party is foolish for a man in the legislature.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (8avO+)

94 I'll bet Gen Mark Milley is upset he was no longer in the loop so he could call his counterpart in the IRGC and warn him of the attack.


Patriot that he is.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (Ta2SI)

95 Carl is not the only one with a gopher problem, you know.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (v0R5T)

96 voting with Democrats is a sign of true MAGA conservatism!

-Massie is a messy

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (g47mK)

97 80 I like Massie, and I respect his broader constitutional argument regarding the President's war-making powers.

But he picked the way wrong time to make an issue of this; and his comments yesterday about "the Israel lobby" are not a good look.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (jGGMD)

========

It's extremely obvious that Trump's attack on Iran is well within the boundaries of the 2001 AUMF since Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

98 Tehran is under attack.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (6iGXV)

99 You have a soundbite and you'll bleat it til teatime, that's fine. I didn't start following politics last week.

Good luck Horde.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (An3vV)

He brings up a legitimate point.

Massie voted for it under Biden.

Why did Massie vote fot it under Biden, but now it's just too much?

He only grows a spine when there's a Republican in the Oval?

If we're all going to be held to true conservative principles always & forever, then can you explain why Massie didn't stick to his true conservative fiscal principles that are so important today?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (6ydKt)

100 President Boasberg just emailed to announce he has named Thomas Massie an honorary Federal District Judge.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (yemn2)

101 We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran, strapped to a GBU-57.


Posted by: Anna Puma



I am pretty sure that the Geneva Convention specifically prohibits this.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (WKKFo)

102 Tehran is under attack.

==

yes, for the last 10 day or so...

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)

103 We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran

That is absolutely a 'no'...
Posted by: The Geneva Convention


Yeah that’s cruel to the GBU-57.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (yC5D1)

104 You can tell a Canadian but you can't him much.

(Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (L/fGl)

105 93 Except Massie hasn't done anything, he's all talk and isolating himself from the party is foolish for a man in the legislature.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (8avO+)

========

Not even trying to build a coalition around an alternative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

106 I don't think I can commit to a firm position on Massie until I see an analysis of his haircut.

Good political hair is very important to me.

Till then, I'll adhere to my infirm position on Massie: I don't care at all.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (qE+/V)

107 Tehran is under attack.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (6iGXV)
-

Well, don't look at me!



Stay safe US and coalition forces.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:45 PM (91F/+)

108 72 I have a question. The President is very unlikely to call me, but does Hakeem Jeffries ( whom I don't like) have a notification on his phone that a call is coming in from the President (?) because if I don't recognize the number I may not answer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (2GCMq)

That actually happened to Scott Adams. When he announced his terminal cancer diagnosis, Trump called and left a message because Scott let it go to VM. Trump ended up calling him again, and getting through because Adams figured out that it was a real call from POTUS.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 23, 2025 01:45 PM (0CU3H)

109 but does Hakeem Jeffries ... have a notification on his phone that a call is coming in from the President (?)

The last time I picked up, a bunch of them in the Oval Office went, "WAZZU-U-U-P?"

Posted by: Hakeem Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:45 PM (g8z90)

110 67 Looks to me like non-attack attack for domestic consumption, probably face-saving prelude to negotiated conditional surrender (labeled something else)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (hlNLQ)

Agree. When your target is warned in advance, I think that qualifies as “theater”.

Posted by: EveR at June 23, 2025 01:45 PM (Z/h4+)

111 86 Do any of our bombers have enough capacity for a whoopie?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:42 PM (6iGXV)


Yes, and the bomb bay of each can load, in addition to whoopie, all Lapdog Infotainment Channel talking heads. What is PDT waiting for?

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (aBgBM)

112 Meanwhile...

@Polymarket 7h
BREAKING: Mamdani surges as clear favorite in the NYC Mayoral primary.

61% chance he wins.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (mlg/3)

113 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (ExV1e)

I keep hearing this and it’s a weak argument

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (trxIx)

114 Same scenario when these fake conservatives oppose Trump's nominees but voted for the Left's Commie Dem nominees.

I'm looking at the Hegseth nomination and confirmation.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (VofaG)

115 I like Massie, and I respect his broader constitutional argument regarding the President's war-making powers.

But he picked the way wrong time to make an issue of this; and his comments yesterday about "the Israel lobby" are not a good look.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (jGGMD)
____

I don't disagree in theory on war powers. But ... AUMF. Yes, that one. Obama used it for 8 years to launch attacks and murder American citizens all over the middle east. Not a peep out of all those now screaming about Trump's relative pin-prick against Iran.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

116 MILF cleavage is back!

*citation needed

Posted by: many-several lurkers at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (1Idb6)

117 (Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I


Well, this is one way to get tourists to stay away from that street I guess

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (t0Rmr)

118 McConnell owns the election machine in KY. Thus you get more of him, Rand Paul, and Massie who represents KY4. A district that runs from Louisville along the Ohio River all the way east to WV. His base is in Louisville.

The rural areas he represents probably haven't a clue what an asshat he is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (Q4IgG)

119 Tehran is under attack.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (6iGXV)

LA County Sheriff's Office hardest hit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (qE+/V)

120 Mamdani? is there anything Qatari money can't do ? London, NY, what else ?

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)

121 86 Do any of our bombers have enough capacity for a whoopie?
Posted by: Boss Moss


I think the B2 has a 32,000lb load capacity or thereabouts. I think we would have to go with a B-52.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (/U5Yz)

122 @112

>>61% chance he wins.

I bet Sliwa drops out and gets behind Adams and Adams wins as an independent.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (XV/Pl)

123 Let the Midnight Hammer shine its light on me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (L/fGl)

124 Faytuks News @Faytuks 5m
Anti-aircraft fire ongoing in Tehran, CNN's correspondent in the city says on live on air.

No indications that this is anything else than the normal Israeli attacks.

Faytuks News @Faytuks 15s
The Israeli air force is currently attacking Tehran, according to IDF military radio

t.me/moriahdoron/23615
[a Telegram channel with Hebrew writing that I don't know how to 'play']

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (2yoRf)

125 Tehran is under attack.
Posted by: Boss Moss
......

Do you wear your turban under or over the hard hat?

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

126 The best reading of Massie would be that he's a gutless weasel who votes his "conscience" when his vote doesn't matter.

Johnson was getting the OBBB through the House without him, so he could vote against it. McCarthy needed the debt ceiling raised with his vote or it would fail, so he voted for it.

This is the mark of an opportunist, not a principled adherent to limited government spending. His rhetoric means nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

127 Good luck Horde.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (An3vV)

What are you wishing us good luck for?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 01:41 PM (2GCMq)


Sounded flounce-ish.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (ExV1e)

128 It's extremely obvious that Trump's attack on Iran is well within the boundaries of the 2001 AUMF since Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)


I was speaking more to his broader view that Congress needs to claw back some of the war-making power, as opposed to placing so much of it in the executive's hands. In theory, I don't have a problem with that.

But yes, it's inarguable that Congress did pass this AUMF and that Trump did act within the letter of the law. That's where I get off the Massie train. (And also, the aforementioned "Israel lobby" remarks.)

Posted by: Dr. T at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (jGGMD)

129 >>> "In fact, Hakeem Jeffries couldn't be reached,"

I was gonna take the president's phone call, but then I got high...

Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (Eng1Z)

130 I was warming up Chuck's gas grill.

Posted by: Hakeem Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (rqEUB)

131 So Trump is upset that Massie is opposed to Iraq war 2.0? If Trump doesn't tread carefully this will wreck his presidency, as the Iraq debacle did to Bush. We do not need another foreign war that is not in the American interest.

Posted by: mikeybates at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (8+NuZ)

132 I am pretty sure that the Geneva Convention specifically prohibits this.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (WKKFo)

Yeah they outlawed chemical and biological warfare a century ago.

A Whoopi Bomb would qualify under both.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (6ydKt)

133 Bush and Co. maintaining a dignified silence.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (rJ48h)

134 115 I don't disagree in theory on war powers. But ... AUMF. Yes, that one. Obama used it for 8 years to launch attacks and murder American citizens all over the middle east. Not a peep out of all those now screaming about Trump's relative pin-prick against Iran.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

======

Probably a good idea to repeal it, to be honest.

I think there was an effort a few years ago that died in the Senate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

135 Boyd Crowder for Senate. Make Kentucky outlaw again!

Posted by: Paco at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (mADJX)

136 Sounded flounce-ish.

==

he's been flouncing for a long time, just won't go away

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:49 PM (g47mK)

137 117 (Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I

Well, this is one way to get tourists to stay away from that street I guess
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM

Never go full retard.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:49 PM (hs4ik)

138
Jeffries is ghosting Trump 'cause no love. Or money. But mostly money.

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 01:49 PM (j4U/Z)

139 Tehran is under attack.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (6iGXV)


Any idea by whom?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)

140 Make The McConnell Machine Misunderestimate Massie!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (ZLUMj)

141 "What are you wishing us good luck for?"

Because we are blindly following the tangerine terror into ww III?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (89Sog)

142 72 I have a question. The President is very unlikely to call me, but does Hakeem Jeffries ( whom I don't like) have a notification on his phone that a call is coming in from the President (?) because if I don't recognize the number I may not answer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


----------

He needs and executive order that for any phone sold in USA, when the President calls the ring tone is forced to play "Hail To The Chief" at full volume.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (QQ0oH)

143 This is the mark of an opportunist, not a principled adherent to limited government spending. His rhetoric means nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

--

Could be he wants McConnell's seat.

It would explain the grandstanding.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (6ydKt)

144 We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran, strapped to a GBU-57.

Posted by: Anna Puma
......

Think of the outrageous sound that would make.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (v0R5T)

145 All the lefties hyperventilating on the socials about "where is Congress!!!!" will all pretend they never did that.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (RpoEI)

146 Posted by: mikeybates at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (8+NuZ)

It’s beyond the Iran deal. He’s a grandstanding dickhead.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (trxIx)

147 131 So Trump is upset that Massie is opposed to Iraq war 2.0? If Trump doesn't tread carefully this will wreck his presidency, as the Iraq debacle did to Bush. We do not need another foreign war that is not in the American interest.
Posted by: mikeybates at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (8+NuZ)

=======

People keep talking like it's a fait accompli that Trump is going to send troops to regime change and then try to nation build.

Despite Trump constantly saying he won't and it being completely out of context with his character and governing philosophies and tactics that we've seen over nearly 5 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

148 You have a soundbite and you'll bleat it til teatime, that's fine. I didn't start following politics last week.

Good luck Horde.
Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (An3vV)

Wait, we have teatime? When is it? What kind of tea? Will mugs be provided, or is it BYOM?

Posted by: pookysgirl, asking important questions at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (Wt5PA)

149 If Whoopie is strapped to a bomb heading to Tehran does that mean she becomes a Whoopie-cushion?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (yemn2)

150 Bush and Co. maintaining a dignified silence.
Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (rJ48h)

Pence praised Trump's Iran action.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (VofaG)

151 Because we are blindly following the tangerine terror into ww III?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (89Sog)

just practice duck and cover, you'd be OK

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (g47mK)

152 Oil prices dropping?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (6iGXV)

153 Will there be crumpets?

Posted by: I like tea at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (rqEUB)

154 68 I was with Fani Willis at the time. Cut me some slack.
Posted by: Hakeem The Dream Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:40 PM (yVvK4)

Me thinks you have the wrong lawyer from GA... Hakeem was with the other one.

Posted by: Inogame at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (53oGX)

155 If Whoopie is strapped to a bomb heading to Tehran does that mean she becomes a Whoopie-cushion?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (yemn2)


One way to find out.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (jGGMD)

156 We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran, strapped to a GBU-57

Drop me already! Can we just get this over with?

Posted by: GBU-57 at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (BU22l)

157 Some people love being contrarians. Massie is one of them. He's useless and needs to be replaced.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (NpAcC)

158 If I don't pick up because I don't recognize your number, leave a message.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (VofaG)

159 >>> Wait, we have teatime? When is it? What kind of tea? Will mugs be provided, or is it BYOM?
Posted by: pookysgirl, asking important questions at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (Wt5PA)

What kind of sammiches, and who is making them? Not it.

Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (Eng1Z)

160 So, did Massie get himself into committee hearings on the OBBB and get cuts inserted that he wanted?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

161 As I've said, there is a significant chunk of the Republican Party that is enthralled by the phony televangelist hucksterism of reps like Massie.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (RpoEI)

162
LA County Sheriff's Office hardest hit.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (qE+/V)

I haven't met the bosses there but the police bosses are politicians with everything that goes with that. When you talk to them you realize that every relationship is transactional in nature and so insincere and transparently so.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (hs4ik)

163 we are further from WWIII now (at least in the ME) than we've been since 1989

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (g47mK)

164 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 20h
It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!

----

MIGA, please!

Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (Q2PZf)

165 Bush and Co. maintaining a dignified silence.
Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM


Busy cashing dividend checks.

Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (jc0TO)

166 117 (Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I

Well, this is one way to get tourists to stay away from that street I guess
Posted by: 18-1

Prince showed us the way.
Unofficially, "the street formerly known as Trutch."

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (QQ0oH)

167 Some people love being contrarians. Massie is one of them. He's useless and needs to be replaced.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (NpAcC)

We'd lose a 1/4 of aos commenters. 😀

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (VofaG)

168 Some people love being contrarians. Massie is one of them. He's useless and needs to be replaced.
--------
And Collins, Murkowski, and Lankford.

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (TN0g+)

169 Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (VofaG)

Pretty telling

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (trxIx)

170 No idea. Big explosions.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (6iGXV)

171 "Š xʷ məθkʷ əy̓ə msəm Street"


So is that pronounced like "Sex me Ow yeah mama"?

Cuz that's why my brain is telling me.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (6ydKt)

172 A Whoopi bomb would cover the Middle East with toxic debris.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (jM63s)

173 Massie is McCain2.0

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (AcTAo)

174 Iranians can execute their own" regime change", Trump is just doing his "MrGorbachev tear down this wall" thing

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (g47mK)

175
Wait, we have teatime? When is it? What kind of tea? Will mugs be provided, or is it BYOM?
Posted by: pookysgirl, asking important questions at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (Wt5PA)

The horde uses cups and saucers, we aren't animals.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (hs4ik)

176 I'm actually surprised that the President hasn't started calling Rep. Thomas Massie "Gassy Massie", for the amount of hot air he puts out.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (S/Y4j)

177 (Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I

Well, this is one way to get tourists to stay away from that street I guess
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (t0Rmr)
____

The irony: that alphabet diarrhea they used for the street name is not from any Indian or native language. White linguists invented it, based on the phonetic pronunciation of the spoken language. This is basically an insult to the natives, but nobody in this bunch of land-acknowledging homos will get that.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (iFTx/)

178 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (RpoEI)

Do they mention Jesus a lot because that's what "televangelist" usually implies?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (2GCMq)

179
What kind of sammiches, and who is making them? Not it.
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (Eng1Z)
--------------

Yeah, nice try. You dealt it, you make it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (tT6L1)

180 I think the B2 has a 32,000lb load capacity or thereabouts. I think we would have to go with a B-52.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:47 PM (/U5Yz)

Each B2 can be loaded with two 30,000lb bunkerbusters.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (g8Ew8)

181 MIPA.

Make Iran Persia Again.

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (TN0g+)

182 (Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I

Well, this is one way to get tourists to stay away from that street I guess

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM

--------------

OUT: Sesame Street.
IN: [Pixie Hates Unicode] Street.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (ZLUMj)

183 People keep talking like it's a fait accompli that Trump is going to send troops to regime change and then try to nation build.

Despite Trump constantly saying he won't and it being completely out of context with his character and governing philosophies and tactics that we've seen over nearly 5 years.
-
And also the distinct lack of troop movements that would be required.

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (Dnobf)

184 WTI down $4.28?
WTI, WTF?

Posted by: J R EWING at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (R6Hhu)

185 All he is saying is give peace a chance.

JD Vance: Iranians "Not Very Good At War," Should "Give Peace A Chance"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (L/fGl)

186 I'd be fine with Massie if he actually stuck to his guns.

If he had been willing to tear the place apart under Biden because the debt ceiling was bad.

But nope. He got some empty promises and folded like a cheap suit.

And now he stands firm?

Whatever, man. He elicits no emotion, but I do not understand the people defending him. It's all just empty rhetoric. He might as well be a writer at NRO.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

187 Not even trying to build a coalition around an alternative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

Or even horse trading..I'll give you this vote if you give me this explicit cut to the size of government I can take home to his supporters.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (8avO+)

188 Cucky Schoomer probably thought that it was a traitor's trap so didn't call up Iran.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (17s+e)

189 >>We do not need another foreign war that is not in the American interest.

Judging by the Iranians stage managed "attack" where they called the Qataris before shooting off missiles to warn them and none got through anywhere, I'd say the talk of a major war is as wrong now as ever.

But I would like some of you who keep insisting Trump should have done nothing when the terrorists who run Iran have been attacking and killing Americans for decades and were on the cusp of breakout with their enrichment plans would consider "American interest".

It's seems pretty weak to keep insisting that a country that has been calling for our death since 1979 and never stops trying to make it happen is not really a threat to the US and neither would them having nukes. Even if Iran didn't hit us directly and "only" hit Israel with a nuke we would definitely be in a real war with boots on the ground with nukes an option.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (viF8m)

190 84 For the record I strongly oppose any military action against Iran, well, at least any action that makes the fleet go out to sea.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke

Follow the Fleet, girl!

Posted by: Zombie Ginger Rogers at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (G5+As)

191 Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (VofaG)

Pretty telling
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (trxIx)

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (VofaG)

192 You can tell a Canadian but you can't him much.

(Pixie won't allow me to paste this so here's a link.)

https://is.gd/u83X2I
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (L/fGl)


https://youtu.be/96VRfQU7voI

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (ExV1e)

193 big red baboon butt of political purity

—-

If this isn’t a tshirt by this evening, I will be so disappointed.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (pRpzT)

194 @147

>>Despite Trump constantly saying he won't and it being completely out of context with his character and governing philosophies and tactics that we've seen over nearly 5 years.

As long as it's airstrikes and plausibly deniable SOF missions, then everything will be ducky. BOTG is a redline and Trump is not going to cross his own redline.

Certainly not in this instance.

But if Iran FA, they will FO.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (XV/Pl)

195 >Schumer did pick up the phone, but somehow did not leak advanced word to Iran.

----

that is a miracle

Posted by: Don Black. Message: release the Kraken at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (AOsQT)

196 And you gotta love it. Congress can't pass a budget but thinks they should decide what the Commander in Chief can do. Congress would never act because they are on vacation.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (AcTAo)

197 171 "Š xʷ məθkʷ əy̓ə msəm Street"


So is that pronounced like "Sex me Ow yeah mama"?

Cuz that's why my brain is telling me.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

--------

Funny, my brain is telling me that it reads: "the people in charge of this town are f--cking morons."

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (QQ0oH)

198 >>> Wait, we have teatime? When is it? What kind of tea? Will mugs be provided, or is it BYOM?
Posted by: pookysgirl, asking important questions at June 23, 2025 01:50 PM (Wt5PA)

=====

Better be long island's, or I’m out.

Posted by: Turn 2 at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (6TlG5)

199 "We were tired of endless wars in the Middle East...

And I'm tired of this line, you preening prick. This has nothing to do with an "endless war" -- just the opposite. The elimination of Iran as a factor in the Middle East would be one of the greatest foreign policy achievements since the Wall came down.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (x2CMu)

200 Jewish Insider, open seat, February 21, 2025
McConnell’s retirement stokes concerns Massie may run for Senate
The Republican Jewish Coalition pledged ‘unlimited’ spending to block Massie if he decides to run

In part, "Sen. Mitch McConnell’s (R-KY) retirement, announced on Thursday, could open up a path for Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), among the most consistent opponents of legislation to support Israel and combat antisemitism in the House, to make a bid for the U.S. Senate in the 2026 midterms. The prospect is already generating fierce opposition from the local and national Jewish community."

And, "While Pell acknowledged that some in the Jewish community may not have voted for McConnell and have not always seen eye to eye with him on other issues, “there is no question of his willingness to stand up for Israel, his willingness to stand up against antisemitism, his consistent support for the Jewish community, his willingness to show up and speak to the Jewish community.”


2026 mid-terms are a ways off.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (NFX2v)

201 Do any of our bombers have enough capacity for a whoopie?"

Might explain interest in more Starship development. Wonder how much lift is needed?

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (tubbA)

202 >>> We need to drop Whoopi Goldberg on Tehran, strapped to a GBU-57

After Schwarzenegger appeared on the View and schooled them on the importance of being a polite guest if you're an immigrant, I saw the comment pop up that it's the first time Dutch and the Predator have been seen together in years. (since Whoopie has those long dreds.) Once you see, you cannot unsee...

Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Eng1Z)

203
Why did Massie vote fot it under Biden, but now it's just too much?

He only grows a spine when there's a Republican in the Oval?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (6ydKt)


Because he wasn't going to get a better option from a split Congress under Biden. He should be getting one from a Republican Congress under Trump. That's what he said in the link I provided. It's really obvious, any kid who's played a board game could explain it to you

But you're not arguing in good faith, because it's nothing to do with money, is it? It's about military support for Israel. Any cudgel to beat him with over that.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (aUesR)

204 I don't disagree in theory on war powers. But ... AUMF. Yes, that one. Obama used it for 8 years to launch attacks and murder American citizens all over the middle east. Not a peep out of all those now screaming about Trump's relative pin-prick against Iran.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

======

Probably a good idea to repeal it, to be honest.

I think there was an effort a few years ago that died in the Senate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


It passed in 2001. This is 2025. They've had almost 24 years to repeal it if they had wanted to.

Except Clinton, Obama & Shitpants kinda liked having it around.

Oopsie.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (5WDkb)

205 The B-2s are back home.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (VofaG)

206 "On CBS's Face the Nation Sunday, Massie defended his position, stating, "We were tired of endless wars in the Middle East..."
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Did he ever say that prior to Trump saying it in the 2016 debates?

I bet he didn't.
Not until it was well-safe to do so.

Like I said, phony televangelist huckster.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (RpoEI)

207
Suckum dickum Street.

Casino Joe wears a festive little hat.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (pkLWe)

208 Massie is McCain2.0
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 23, 2025 01:54 PM (AcTAo)

At least McCain set fire to an aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (8avO+)

209 >>> "In fact, Hakeem Jeffries couldn't be reached,"

Neither could the Ayatollah.
So happy together la la la la la

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (yC5D1)

210 >>>>We do not need another foreign war that is not in the American interest.


Woah buddy...finish that first Red herring before you reach for a second one.

Posted by: garrett at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (MmNOR)

211 Massie may be wrong on Iran, but his complaints about the Big Bodacious Boondoggle were valid; there are no cuts, only promises of future cuts. And the Green sludge fund is still in there.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (O9qN1)

212 If he had been willing to tear the place apart under Biden because the debt ceiling was bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Tear the place apart? Man, I didn't know Senators were that powerful.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)

213 Kari is good people.

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (E0p3T)

214 Trump took the heat for being the first major Republican to come out against endless wars in the Middle East.

And here's the Massie bitch acting like he was leading the parade all along.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (RpoEI)

215 161 As I've said, there is a significant chunk of the Republican Party that is enthralled by the phony televangelist hucksterism of reps like Massie.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
========
More apparent on social media, NR, etc. than in reality.

Niche appeal of beautiful losers where they allegedly stand on whatever principles they find convenient today but disappear or backstab when the battle is against the Democrats.

Massie did little or nothing compared with someone else disliked by a fair number of the horde like MTG over the Jan 6 show trials, Biden's massive deficits, the horrendous idiotic retreat from Kabul, etc. Now he appears like the little man he is to ankle bite the GOP majority for trying to move the leviathan toward more conservative principles while loudly proclaiming his true principles to one and all. He is a living breathing No True Scotsman fallacy in Congress.

Justin Amash redux.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (ctrM5)

216 WTI down $4.28?
WTI, WTF?
Posted by: J R EWING at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM


Nothing is making any sense in financials right now. I'm just rolling with it. Up 1.29% on the day doing the complete opposite of what would make sense to me.

Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (jc0TO)

217 What type of sound would falling Whoopi make?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (jM63s)

218 After Schwarzenegger appeared on the View and schooled them on the importance of being a polite guest if you're an immigrant, I saw the comment pop up that it's the first time Dutch and the Predator have been seen together in years. (since Whoopie has those long dreds.) Once you see, you cannot unsee...
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Eng1Z)

Pred really hit that wall hard.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (8avO+)

219 I though Eyepatch McCain was McCain 2.0.

Posted by: many-several lurkers at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (1Idb6)

220 A district that runs from Louisville along the Ohio River all the way east to WV. His base is in Louisville.

The rural areas he represents probably haven't a clue what an asshat he is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
_______

I'd guess half the population in that district is in the three counties across from Cincinnati.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (t/qwz)

221 194 As long as it's airstrikes and plausibly deniable SOF missions, then everything will be ducky. BOTG is a redline and Trump is not going to cross his own redline.

Certainly not in this instance.

But if Iran FA, they will FO.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (XV/Pl)

=======

I don't think Iran can.

Their investment has been in Hezbollah rockets, Hamas tunnels, and terrorizing their own citizens not building a military that can march or anything.

With Israel taking out IRGC leadership over the last day, Hezbollah having no more rockets, and Hamas not really needing tunnels anymore, their investment strategy is dashed

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

222 Here in Israel, reports from 10 minutes ago say IAF is attacking Teheran.

So... what are the US jets up to?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (91F/+)

223 This is going to be a lot quicker than many think. I think.

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (E0p3T)

224 Because he wasn't going to get a better option from a split Congress under Biden. He should be getting one from a Republican Congress under Trump. That's what he said in the link I provided. It's really obvious, any kid who's played a board game could explain it to you

Then quite literally, what is the point of him? He can't convince enough people to get something done under a GOP president, and he's completely cowed when there is a Democrat president.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)

225 Tear the place apart? Man, I didn't know Senators were that powerful.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
=======
He is a Congress critter that was a coward not to be seen or noticed during the Biden years. MTG or even Lauren Boebert, he is not.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

226 Oil prices dropping?

"Well, crap. What else we got?"
-- Panic Mongers, Inc.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (/y8xj)

227 Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (aUesR)

You are relying on twisted logic to excuse his support during Biden of the things he opposes now. How about his nominee oppositions?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (VofaG)

228 If he had been willing to tear the place apart under Biden because the debt ceiling was bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Tear the place apart? Man, I didn't know Senators were that powerful.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)

Massie isn't a Senator.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (8avO+)

229 After Schwarzenegger appeared on the View and schooled them on the importance of being a polite guest if you're an immigrant, I saw the comment pop up that it's the first time Dutch and the Predator have been seen together in years. (since Whoopie has those long dreds.) Once you see, you cannot unsee...
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Eng1Z)

You're one ugly muddafukah...

Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (Q2PZf)

230 What type of sound would falling Whoopi make?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
......

Screeching then a big fart when she hit.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (UjdFS)

231 212 If he had been willing to tear the place apart under Biden because the debt ceiling was bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Tear the place apart? Man, I didn't know Senators were that powerful.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)

=======

Since he was the deciding vote on the finance committee in the House, he could have, yes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

232 And I'm tired of this line, you preening prick. This has nothing to do with an "endless war" -- just the opposite. The elimination of Iran as a factor in the Middle East would be one of the greatest foreign policy achievements since the Wall came down.
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM (x2CMu)


Get in the APC then. Calling someone else preening and then posting this YIKES

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (aUesR)

233 Kari is good people.
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (E0p3T)

no

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (g47mK)

234 *So... what are the US jets up to?*

Training.

Posted by: USAF at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (rqEUB)

235 Not every one that saith unto me, MAGA, MAGA, shall enter into the Golden Age; but he that doeth the will of Trump.

Many will say to me in that day, Trump, Trump, have we not campaigned in our MAGA caps? and in thy name have cast out democrats from their exalted government posts? and in thy name done many wonderful works, the best works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that oppose my at least not entirely ineffective Iran raid.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (MMp6W)

236
he's been flouncing for a long time, just won't go away
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01

Maybe we need to find the flouncing tutu for him.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (pRpzT)

237 218 After Schwarzenegger appeared on the View and schooled them on the importance of being a polite guest if you're an immigrant, I saw the comment pop up that it's the first time Dutch and the Predator have been seen together in years. (since Whoopie has those long dreds.) Once you see, you cannot unsee...
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Eng1Z)

Pred really hit that wall hard.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (8avO+)

What the fuck are you?

Posted by: AR-NOLD with Whoopsie Goldbricks at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (qE+/V)

238 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 20h
It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!
=================
Trump's next act is going to be winning election as Iran's next Supreme Leader, assuming for a moment they decide to make that an elected position.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (Rc/RV)

239 224 Then quite literally, what is the point of him? He can't convince enough people to get something done under a GOP president, and he's completely cowed when there is a Democrat president.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)

=======

But his rhetoric, man.

His rhetoric!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

240 Nice post on American Greatness by Cynical Publius. The Trump Doctrine

https://tinyurl.com/6p6fs59k

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (AcTAo)

241 "We were tired of endless wars in the Middle East...

And I'm tired of this line, you preening prick. This has nothing to do with an "endless war" -- just the opposite. The elimination of Iran as a factor in the Middle East would be one of the greatest foreign policy achievements since the Wall came down.
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian


AND it ends a forever war that started well before some of these people were born. 11-04-1979.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (5WDkb)

242 It's seems pretty weak to keep insisting that a country that has been calling for our death since 1979 and never stops trying to make it happen is not really a threat to the US and neither would them having nukes. Even if Iran didn't hit us directly and "only" hit Israel with a nuke we would definitely be in a real war with boots on the ground with nukes an option.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 01:55 PM (viF8m)

---

People have to ignore a lot of history to come down on the other side on this one. They have to ignore a very long list of atrocities the Iranians have been responsible for over the past four decades, and then ignore their threats and games over the nuke issue for the past two decades.

It's the same kind of ignorance that the Hamas supporters have to feign to think and say the things they do.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (6ydKt)

243 Massie did little or nothing compared with someone else disliked by a fair number of the horde like MTG over the Jan 6 show trials/i]

It is a good point. For all the hate that MTG has gotten over the years she's had some sort of positive impact - what has Massie accomplished over the years he's been in office? And here "I'm just one conservative outsider among hundreds of reps" doesn't cut it looking at MTG...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (t0Rmr)

244 Do any of our bombers have enough capacity for a whoopie?"

Might explain interest in more Starship development. Wonder how much lift is needed?

Posted by: man
===

Maybe with a lot of JATO packs it might get off the ground.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (17s+e)

245 WTI down $4.28?
WTI, WTF?
Posted by: J R EWING


Puts and Calls. Not to be confused with Putin Calls.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (mlg/3)

246 I'd guess half the population in that district is in the three counties across from Cincinnati.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
=========
Exurbs of Lexington, Louisville, and Cincinnati make up the majority of voters in his district.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)

247 Sure been said already It's a wonderful if the Iranians knew before hand it was coming from a Democrat spy

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (+qU29)

248 I think Whoopi would make a shrill vibrating sound when the wind catches her nethers.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (jM63s)

249 Massie is a piece of shit, I literally can't comprehend people that still buy his 'principles' crap.

He's no different from Romney. Their 'principles' only apply to Republicans, but Democrats get a free pass.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (setIA)

250 Who was it who said 'never get into a land war in Asia' ?

Posted by: Don Black. Message: release the Kraken at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (AOsQT)

251 @211

>> Massie may be wrong on Iran, but his complaints about the Big Bodacious Boondoggle were valid; there are no cuts, only promises of future cuts. And the Green sludge fund is still in there.

He's wrong, on the whole, the bill does a lot of good, does it have everything we want? No. But that's what we are going to get for now.

I like Massie generally and the bills he has proposed are good bills, the main problem is the GOP is a useless pile of dog shit and this is pretty much as good as it gets it seems.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (XV/Pl)

252 Piper! How long have you been hanging around the Royals ??

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)

253 I'd guess half the population in that district is in the three counties across from Cincinnati.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 01:59 PM (t/qwz)

Louisville is larger than Newport and Covington if he has all of it. But yeah not much peeps around the river till you get to Huntington WV

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (8avO+)

254 Kari is good people.
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (E0p3T)

I've had a crush on her since her MTV days.
We are talking about Kari Wuher, right?

Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (Q2PZf)

255 Disclose TV @disclosetv Jun 22
NOW - Bolton supports Trump's attack and says "we are on the verge of potentially seeing regime change in Iran."

Disclose.tv @disclosetv Jun 22
JUST IN - Trump: "Great unity in the Republican Party."

Disclose.tv @disclosetv 20h
JUST IN - Trump: "MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN."

Disclose.tv @disclosetv 20h
MORE - Earlier, Vance appeared on various TV talk shows and asserted that the U.S. has no interest in pursuing a regime change in Iran.

Breaking911 @Breaking911 18h
BREAKING: Lindsey Graham jumps on the Trump "MIGA" bandwagon, calling for a regime change in Iran.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (2yoRf)

256
Tonight's "Low" temp will be 75.

Color me: Not amused.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (DCmYx)

257 It’s teatime?

I like Earl Gray and the little cucumber sammiches.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (W2Pud)

258 Targeted air strikes are fine; but if the plan mutates into "Occupy Iran for twenty years then put the Mullahs back in charge" I'm out.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (O9qN1)

259 Massie may be wrong on Iran, but his complaints about the Big Bodacious Boondoggle were valid; there are no cuts, only promises of future cuts. And the Green sludge so fund is still in there.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (O9qN1)

The bill and cuts misrepresented by the opponents as well as leaving out the advantages of passing that bill now. And again he had no trouble with it being worse under Biden.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (VofaG)

260 Given that the airstrike against the Iranian general back in Trump's last term was probably the only time in my lifetime that I can think of a military action that the US has taken in the Middle East that was a complete and unconditional success, I find it a little odd that so many people are completely convinced he doesn't know how to play this.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (B9Prs)

261 Massie isn't a Senator.
Posted by: Oldcat


Not even a Senator? Wow, that sounds more dangerous.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (mlg/3)

262
Sleep tight tonight, your Democratic Congressional Leadership is awake!

(They may be drunk, but they're awake!)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (xG4kz)

263 Anyone remember back in the 2015 primary debates when Trump said the invasion of Iraq was one of the dumbest things this country has ever done?

Anyone thinking Trump is putting ground forces into Iran hasn’t been paying attention.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (u73oe)

264
Posted by: JackStraw

---------------
Agreed.

Also, everyone is overlooking the non-Iran message that is being sent.

To the bad actors around the world - No one is safe if you piss us off. The days of chanting threats without repercussions are over.

To China - Match that.

To Russia - Are you sure you want to trade threats with us

To China/Russia allies - where is your god now?

To the world - Trump is not chicken, USA is not done, and nothing is safe if we need to remove it.

This is like Reagan going after Grenada, which was the start of the healing after Carter and VN.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (QQ0oH)

265 Trump's next act is going to be winning election as Iran's next Supreme Leader

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (Rc/RV)
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The Magatollah?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (91F/+)

266 193 big red baboon butt of political purity

—-

If this isn’t a tshirt by this evening, I will be so disappointed.
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM
+++

I fully expect to see it in a limerick in tomorrow's Art Thread.

Posted by: Limerick Lover at June 23, 2025 02:05 PM (rqEUB)

267 Exurbs of Lexington, Louisville, and Cincinnati make up the majority of voters in his district.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)

Surprised he gets all the way down to Lexington, that's about 60 miles from the river.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:05 PM (8avO+)

268 Massie/Crenshaw 2028! "Restore the Norms".

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 02:05 PM (Ef4Ak)

269 Mamdani announced that he will open government run grocery stores in NYC if elected. I really want to see this happen.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at June 23, 2025 02:05 PM (V362x)

270 Why, I never!

Shooting at Juneteenth Celebration Leaves 1 Dead, At Least 9 Injured

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 02:05 PM (L/fGl)

271 "Regime change" is a dog whistle !

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:05 PM (g47mK)

272 Do any of our bombers have enough capacity for a whoopie?"
Yes, a stripped down B-2 with constant refueling.
USAF code name "Fat Boy"

Posted by: J R EWING at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (R6Hhu)

273 Not everyone against forever bullshit war in the middle east is an anti-Israel troll. Just some of them.

Kari is a Trump originalist and I ask anyone who is against more middle east bullshit to at least wait and see how this goes. Trump is not like anyone we have had or will have again.

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (E0p3T)

274 I think Whoopi would make a shrill vibrating sound when the wind catches her nethers.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
.....

Or a loud flapping.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (UjdFS)

275 It could be more like First Manassas...

Posted by: Stonewall at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (rqEUB)

276 Guys, there may be a war in the middle east, but our country is no longer a polity capable of shipping troops over there. That would fracture the nation. We get our budget in order and reclaim the ability to safely walk down the streets in our cities, or we cease to be.

It's so funny because (as some remember) I've been here since 2015, and the very people giving these weak all-out attacks on Massie were major proponents of his.

Only one thing has changed, and it isn't his stance on the debt ceiling.

No war!

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (aUesR)

277 I keep hearing this and it’s a weak argument
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (trxIx)


Is it? Iran has been directly, or indirectly, responsible for several hundred US deaths. Do they mean nothing? Do we permit them to continue ad infinitum? Iran has stated that they will use nuclear weapons against "the Satans". Do we wait until Tel Aviv or DC is gone before we act?

I oppose sending US ground troops to Iran. If, however, the Iranian government persists in being an antagonist, we should take actions to end it. If prior administrations had done that, rather than trying to introduce women's lib and homosexuality to Afghanistan and Iraq, maybe we wouldn't be in the position we're in.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

278 Targeted air strikes are fine; but if the plan mutates into "Occupy Iran for twenty years then put the Mullahs back in charge" I'm out.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo


Don't worry the 'boots on the ground' inevitability is just going to be several billion dollars worth of PayLess gift cards airdropped in.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (mlg/3)

279
Hakeem had a good excuse: he was getting his asshole resized because Nancy's palsied hands are shrinking and both of them prefer a "tight fit" when she goes all puppet master on him.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (xG4kz)

280 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 20h
JUST IN - Trump: "MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN."

Disclose.tv @disclosetv 20h
MORE - Earlier, Vance appeared on various TV talk shows and asserted that the U.S. has no interest in pursuing a regime change in Iran.


Two things that can be true at the same time.

"Now is the time for all good Iranians to come to the aid of their country".

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (5WDkb)

281 I like Earl Gray and the little cucumber sammiches.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (W2Pud)
-------------

With or without the crust? Cut diagonally? Toast the bread first?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (tT6L1)

282 It is a good point. For all the hate that MTG has gotten over the years she's had some sort of positive impact - what has Massie accomplished over the years he's been in office? And here "I'm just one conservative outsider among hundreds of reps" doesn't cut it looking at MTG...
Posted by: 18-1
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I use Jan 6 as a key marker as to posers versus reality. MTG and a couple of other Congress critters were there to oppose injustice and true massive government overreach of power. They did so despite pissing off the Uniparty in both houses and MTG was punished over it and calling out the Big Cheat in 2020 to the extent of losing her committee assignments by Dem fiat.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (ctrM5)

283
There is no "war."

Stop with the pants-shitting.

We are the goddamed United State of America and we will bomb whoeverthefuck wheneverthefuck we want, and that doesn't mean War. It means we are the lone Superpower and what We say Goes.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (DCmYx)

284 A man on X shares that he has no video of him with his mom. He has a picture of them together and AI was able to create a beautiful short video of a hug between him as a boy and his mother.

The replies are full of crazy whackjobs screaming that this is a Black Mirror, black tar heroin, false memory nightmare.

Why are people so broken?

http://tiny.cc/h4sn001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (lIio7)

285 Who was it who said 'never get into a land war in Asia' ?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: release the Kraken at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (AOsQT)

Some Asian

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (8avO+)

286 Yes, a stripped down B-2 with constant refueling.
USAF code name "Fat Boy"
Posted by: J R EWING at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (R6Hhu)



Operation: Fat Twat Drop

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)

287 Fox reporting that Israel is striking Iran now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (6ydKt)

288 You are relying on twisted logic to excuse his support during Biden of the things he opposes now.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 02:00 PM (VofaG)


No I'm not.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (aUesR)

289 Their 'principles'

When politicians babble principles, watch your wallets...

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (tubbA)

290 Anyone remember back in the 2015 primary debates when Trump said the invasion of Iraq was one of the dumbest things this country has ever done?

Anyone thinking Trump is putting ground forces into Iran hasn’t been paying attention.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 23, 2025 02:04 PM (u73o

That was a change of a former position and I think he was wrong.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (VofaG)

291 266 193 big red baboon butt of political purity

—-

If this isn’t a tshirt by this evening, I will be so disappointed.
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 01:56 PM
+++

I fully expect to see it in a limerick in tomorrow's Art Thread.
Posted by: Limerick Lover

Who did they open for?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (Dv3i1)

292 Hakeem had a good excuse: he was getting his asshole resized because Nancy's palsied hands are shrinking and both of them prefer a "tight fit" when she goes all puppet master on him.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot


Way, waaaay more eloquent than me. I was just going to say he was getting pegging by super straight Cory Booker.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (5WDkb)

293 Trump's next act is going to be winning election as Iran's next Supreme Leader

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (Rc/RV)
-

The Magatollah?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

"I love Iran! Trump Tower has the best falafel in New York, everyone knows it"

Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (Q2PZf)

294 I don't have TV so I am not familiar with Massie, only that he is a thing

who has the cliff notes

Posted by: Don Black. Message: release the Kraken at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (AOsQT)

295 OT...With all due respect to King Harv, I have to read the comments now with one eye closed in case the Lord strikes me blind.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (MLHNM)

296 MICA!

Make Istanbul Constantinople Again!

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (Oy/m2)

297 Iran apparently firing missiles at a US base in Qatar

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 23, 2025 02:09 PM (O9qN1)

298 Exurbs of Lexington, Louisville, and Cincinnati make up the majority of voters in his district.
_________
Just looked at it. 410K of 756K in district are in Boone, Kenton and Campbell across from Cincy.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 02:09 PM (t/qwz)

299 Oil prices dropping?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (6iGXV)


Prolly from the Chinese saying, "No, you're not going to blockade the Straits of Hormuz where we get half our oil."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 02:09 PM (ExV1e)

300 the very people giving these weak all-out attacks on Massie were major proponents of his."

No, we were not.

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 02:09 PM (tubbA)

301 >With or without the crust? Cut diagonally? Toast the bread first?


And doilies.

Posted by: There have to be doilies at June 23, 2025 02:09 PM (rqEUB)

302 Israel already said that if Iran wants to make a deal , they can be done in a few days.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:10 PM (g47mK)

303 A man on X shares that he has no video of him with his mom. He has a picture of them together and AI was able to create a beautiful short video of a hug between him as a boy and his mother.

The replies are full of crazy whackjobs screaming that this is a Black Mirror, black tar heroin, false memory nightmare.

Why are people so broken?

http://tiny.cc/h4sn001
Posted by: bonhomme at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (lIio7)

There was a big industry in WWI in England of adjusting photos to add or isolate a son that didn't make it back. Taking a photo of the boy in uniform and putting in a new combined image, isolating a family picture to make him be alone. Those crank girls who did the fairy photo hoax worked on such jobs.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:10 PM (8avO+)

304 One of my mentors, who was from Cincinnati, and I were at his pool on the beach drinking margaritas in the sun. He says "This is great. Do you know there are four good days in Cincinnati? Two in spring and two in fall."

I miss him. Good people.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 02:10 PM (17s+e)

305
Some people love being contrarians. Massie is one of them. He's useless and needs to be replaced.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:52 PM (NpAcC)

We'd lose a 1/4 of aos commenters. 😀
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:53 PM (VofaG)



No we wouldn't....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 02:10 PM (y9nCu)

306
Ace should post that very old clip of President Trump reacting to Iran shooting down one our drones.

Some Fake News fuckface asked him if he will retaliate. President Trump said of course now; he wouldn't do that over a drone.

We are not at "war." We will never be at "war" with Iran. Relax, pant-pissers. Massie is a loser and a chump. Don't be like massie.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:10 PM (DCmYx)

307 There is no "war."

Stop with the pants-shitting.

We are the goddamed United State of America and we will bomb whoeverthefuck wheneverthefuck we want, and that doesn't mean War. It means we are the lone Superpower and what We say Goes.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (DCmYx)


Say this out loud into the mirror

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:10 PM (aUesR)

308 It'll always be Burma to me...

Posted by: J. Peterman at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (rqEUB)

309 Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (aUesR)

——————

What leads you to believe Trump is considering ground forces in Iran? Not being snarky here, just trying to understand your position.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (u73oe)

310 I'm hearing reports the enriched uranium has been moved. Okay, you've got a pile of Uranium. That's great. However, the very expensive and extremely difficult to set up machinery needed to enrich further is now destroyed. Where do you find the cash needed to buy more machinery and how long to rebuild the infrastructure?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (tT6L1)

311 Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Did I hear Former President Medvedev, from Russia, casually throwing around the “N word” (Nuclear!), and saying that he and other Countries would supply Nuclear Warheads to Iran? Did he really say that or, is it just a figment of my imagination? If he did say that, and, if confirmed, please let me know, IMMEDIATELY. The “N word” should not be treated so casually. I guess that’s why Putin’s “THE BOSS.” By the way, if anyone thinks our “hardware” was great over the weekend, far and away the strongest and best equipment we have, 20 years advanced over the pack, is our Nuclear Submarines. They are the most powerful and lethal weapons ever built, and just launched the 30 Tomahawks — All 30 hit their mark perfectly. So, in addition to our Great Fighter Pilots, thank you to the Captain and Crew!



Medvedev did pretty much admit in his post that the ultimate aim for Iran was nuclear weapons.

"it can now be admitted..." or something close.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (6ydKt)

312 285 Who was it who said 'never get into a land war in Asia' ?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: release the Kraken at June 23, 2025 02:03 PM (AOsQT)

Some Asian
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:07 PM (8avO+

This is not your war, Don Black and Oldcat.

Posted by: saigon sally broadcasting ftom at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (qE+/V)

313 We are not at "war." We will never be at "war" with Iran. Relax, pant-pissers. Massie is a loser and a chump. Don't be like massie.
Posted by: Soothsayer


I thought we were at war with Iran since Nine-Teen Twitckey Nine?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (mlg/3)

314 I don't have TV so I am not familiar with Massie, only that he is a thing

who has the cliff notes
Posted by: Don Black. Message: release the Kraken at June 23, 2025 02:08 PM (AOsQT)

well you might look at bills he sponsored that passed.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (8avO+)

315 Medvedev did pretty much admit in his post that the ultimate aim for Iran was nuclear weapons.

==

He kinda did. As if it was a sekret!

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (g47mK)

316 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

I mean, ok, should we go to war with Mexico? What they allow to come through our southern border I’d argue is as destructive, if not more, than what Iran does.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (eZwyX)

317
However, I do have one issue with PDT.

Can we call an end to the Steve Witkoff experiment?

It failed. This guy Witkoff hasn't accomplished a damn thing. Get someone else.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (DCmYx)

318 Mark Cuban Can’t Believe How Toxic Top X Alternative (Bluesky) Has Gotten

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (RHGPo)

319 Massie is the only sane voice in congress on spending. God bless and protect him.

No war in Iran.
Posted by: ghost of kari

What specifically was Massie's plan for dealing with Iran. The same as the last 40+ years? Keep kicking the can down the road putting out fires and tolerate the killing? Allow them to fully arm nuclear warheads to annihilate Israel and others? Wiping Israel off the map and death to America are not just chants to them - that is their objectives stated plainly. Easy to criticize from the sidelines but what were his solutions?

Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (oiNtH)

320 318 Mark Cuban Can’t Believe How Toxic Top X Alternative (Bluesky) Has Gotten
Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (RHGPo)

=======

And that was when he found Gabe Malor's account.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

321 This is almost comical; reports on X that Iran called Qatar in advance and told them when they were going to launch missiles, and how many, so that they could be easily defended against.

If this is true - and from the pathetically small size of the attack it probably is - the Iranians are looking for some way to stand down while having some way to tell their home audience that they "did something".

They're fools if they think that will work.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (uWKK8)

322 And Fenelon I said "good luck Horde" as in "good luck and have a good day"

With malice towards none except Hillary Clinton, with charity towards all except Ilhan Noor who should be sent back to Somalia in an Amazon box, I wish you all a great Monday. I also still watch Tucker Carlson.

Warm wishes,
GoK

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (aUesR)

323 Mark Cuban Can’t Believe How Toxic Top X Alternative (Bluesky) Has Gotten
Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (RHGPo)



Well, Cuban is a dipshit with a billion dollars, so.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

324
I saw the Big Red Baboon Butt of Political Purity open for The Monkees at the Sea World Safari Park in '68.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (iJfKG)

325 Does anyone actually think that Israel and the Mossad would not know that the Iranians had packed up their equipment and enriched uranium and moved it. That's a long process and then that they wouldn't let Trump in on that intelligence?

Really?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (17s+e)

326 What part of bomb the crap out of the mullahs and their nuke program til they collapse and the new guys invite a clean up inspection is so hard to see?

I'm barely a sub-moron and it seems pretty obvious to me.

Posted by: DaveA at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (FhXTo)

327 We just hit a 100 degrees with typical NJ humidity. A tad warm.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (5xuJ/)

328 Mark Cuban Can’t Believe How Toxic Top X Alternative (Bluesky) Has Gotten
Posted by: SMOD


He's too young to remember Air America.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (5WDkb)

329 213 Kari is good people.
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (E0p3T)

I agree, we can have disagreements and still like each other.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (hs4ik)

330 Late thread OT

Mamdani leads Cuomo in new poll. Mamdani finally surpasses Cuomo in the eighth round of the simulated ranked choice voting — 51.8% to 48.2%. This is the second poll showing Mamdani ahead of Cuomo, but the first showing him ultimately winning.

It is going to be 100 degrees in NYC tomorrow, so it may be up to who’s voters are more passionate as well as more able to suffer the heat.

there will be a lot of passion over his policies. Rent freezes, free child care, free transportation, cheaper groceries and $30 per hour minimum wage. A couple both working minimum wage jobs would have a household income of $125,000 per year and see their costs lower on child care, transportation,food and rent.

It won't happen. NYC, like all major blue cities, is going to be hit hard by Trump’s policies and budget. There won’t even be enough money to fund what currently exists in terms of transit levels, education, etc. Throw in a recession and the picture becomes pretty dire.

I hope people are realistic about what politicians promise.

Given the recent Cuomo endorsements by Clyburn and Clinton, I wonder if Cuomo's own polling isn't showing the same?

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (JCZqz)

331 Medvedev did pretty much admit in his post that the ultimate aim for Iran was nuclear weapons.

"it can now be admitted..." or something close.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

--------------
I don't understand this. The ONLY reason for Iran to want nuclear energy, let alone enrichment capability, is for nuclear weapons.

I said it a couple days ago - they were trying to argue that they wanted a gun only to shoot racing blanks. It was a bold lie that the Dems, IAEA, UN, etc. all played along with.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (QQ0oH)

332 If we went to war with Mexico, do you have any idea how much an avocado would cost? Warmonger!!!

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (Ef4Ak)

333 321 This is almost comical; reports on X that Iran called Qatar in advance and told them when they were going to launch missiles, and how many, so that they could be easily defended against.

If this is true - and from the pathetically small size of the attack it probably is - the Iranians are looking for some way to stand down while having some way to tell their home audience that they "did something".

They're fools if they think that will work.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (uWKK

=======

If it's all true, and if the story of high level Iranian officials desperately wanting the Ayatollah's sign off on direct talks with the US (which they can't get because they can't get in contact with him), then it paints a picture of a very weak Iran who just wants the pain to stop.

I do think that Israel won't feel any need to let up on the nation that directly funded Hezbollah, Hamas, and 10/7.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

334 Medvedev did pretty much admit in his post that the ultimate aim for Iran was nuclear weapons.

"it can now be admitted..." or something close.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 02:11 PM (6ydKt)

Russia was talking a deal with Iran to provide Civilian nuke plants safely (since somehow a oil rich nation has power issues) and run them for them.

I think he was referring to that when saying Russia wanted to fulfill those nuclear contracts and presumably don't bomb the Russian there.

Some may be conflating nuclear power with bombs.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (8avO+)

335 The reason we have 40K troops in the ME spread out among arabs is Iran. They are not there to protect Israel....

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:15 PM (g47mK)

336 is completely useless and should be replaced.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 23, 2025 02:15 PM (MMp6W)

337 Posted by: ghost of kari at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (aUesR)

Me tii

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 02:15 PM (eZwyX)

338 330 there will be a lot of passion over his policies. Rent freezes, free child care, free transportation, cheaper groceries and $30 per hour minimum wage. A couple both working minimum wage jobs would have a household income of $125,000 per year and see their costs lower on child care, transportation,food and rent.

It won't happen. NYC, like all major blue cities, is going to be hit hard by Trump’s policies and budget. There won’t even be enough money to fund what currently exists in terms of transit levels, education, etc. Throw in a recession and the picture becomes pretty dire.

I hope people are realistic about what politicians promise.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (JCZqz)

=======

Think these guys heard about Denver cutting a bunch of government employees in order to fund benefits to illegal aliens?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

339 325 Does anyone actually think that Israel and the Mossad would not know that the Iranians had packed up their equipment and enriched uranium and moved it. That's a long process and then that they wouldn't let Trump in on that intelligence?

Really?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (17s+e)

I don't know that I'm ready to vest a lot in the ostensible infallibility of the IC, given its track record.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 23, 2025 02:16 PM (4/BuS)

340
The replies are full of crazy whackjobs screaming that this is a Black Mirror, black tar heroin, false memory nightmare


OMG! The Tyrell Corporation exists!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 02:16 PM (xG4kz)

341 334 Russia was talking a deal with Iran to provide Civilian nuke plants safely (since somehow a oil rich nation has power issues) and run them for them.

I think he was referring to that when saying Russia wanted to fulfill those nuclear contracts and presumably don't bomb the Russian there.

Some may be conflating nuclear power with bombs.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (8avO+)

=======

Nope.

Medvedev said explicitly it was for nuclear weapons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

342 I don't understand this. The ONLY reason for Iran to want nuclear energy, let alone enrichment capability, is for nuclear weapons.

I said it a couple days ago - they were trying to argue that they wanted a gun only to shoot racing blanks. It was a bold lie that the Dems, IAEA, UN, etc. all played along with.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (QQ0oH)

not so, their power infastructure apparenly sucks and having plants about the country would be a help. In the Russian deal the Russians would run the plants which would keep bombs from being made there.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:16 PM (8avO+)

343 Massie may be wrong on Iran, but his complaints about the Big Bodacious Boondoggle were valid; there are no cuts, only promises of future cuts. And the Green sludge fund is still in there.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 23, 2025 01:58 PM (O9qN1)


How much of that would be because - by law - the BBB may not affect discretionary spending? So, like, they cannot use the mechanism they're using while cutting all the crap people like to bitch about. Explanations have been posted on why it's happening the way it's happening but better to shoot for the moon and fail, I guess.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (ExV1e)

344 Somehow the usual suspects miss that salient point, why we have CENTCOM in Qatar and a Navy Base in Bahrain.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (g47mK)

345 However, I do have one issue with PDT.

Can we call an end to the Steve Witkoff experiment?

It failed. This guy Witkoff hasn't accomplished a damn thing. Get someone else.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (DCmYx)

You, along with many people, especially the Iranians, completely misunderstand what Witkoff's assignment was. In hindsight, it's rather obvious that his job was to keep the Iranians guard down while Trump and Bibi planned a one-two punch to completely destroyed the Iranian nuclear program. It was the greatest good cop / bad cop scheme ever pulled, and they did it in front of the world. The Iranians thought Trump would never attack in the middle of ongoing negotiations.

Witkoff has always been an op that Trump was pulling on the Iranians, nothing more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (uWKK8)

346 Heard recently:

"Fighter Pilots Make Movies;
Bomber Pilots Make History."

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (OpF8B)

347 there will be a lot of passion over his policies. Rent freezes, free child care, free transportation, cheaper groceries and $30 per hour minimum wage. A couple both working minimum wage jobs would have a household income of $125,000 per year and see their costs lower on child care, transportation,food and rent.


I can't even.......the stupid.....IT BURNS!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

348
lol, $30/hr min wage

all the small businesses will just fire all their employees, or go out of business

lol @ "cheaper groceries"

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (DCmYx)

349 Mamdani announced that he will open government run grocery stores in NYC if elected. I really want to see this happen.

Two ways this goes:

1) The stores lock down like every other business does in those areas and lose a lot of money they don't have to waste

2) The stores don't look down and get openly robbed day in and day out with their good being sold outside of vans right outside the store and they lose A LOT MORE MONEY

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (t0Rmr)

350 If you ever plan on truly flouncing, make it count. Like really count. Make people torn between deleting what you said so no one ever ever sees it, and talking about it forever because everyone secretly knows it's true. I mean if I was that type, of course.....

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (E0p3T)

351 Russian are still sitting in Busher. Pretending to work on civilian nuke infrastructure.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (g47mK)

352 there will be a lot of passion over his policies. Rent freezes, free child care, free transportation, cheaper groceries and $30 per hour minimum wage. A couple both working minimum wage jobs would have a household income of $125,000 per year and see their costs lower on child care, transportation,food and rent.



Pull my finger.

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (jc0TO)

353
"Fighter Pilots Make Movies;
Bomber Pilots Make History."
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (OpF8B)



"Who gets the ladies?"

- - - - - - Fighter Pilots, Elbow Deep in Trim

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

354 348
lol, $30/hr min wage

all the small businesses will just fire all their employees, or go out of business

lol @ "cheaper groceries"
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (DCmYx)

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There's a solution for that! Price controls!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

355
Not even that fuckingidiot fraud Andrew Wangyang is pushing his idiotic UBI, anymore.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (DCmYx)

356 What part of bomb the crap out of the mullahs and their nuke program til they collapse and the new guys invite a clean up inspection is so hard to see?

I'm barely a sub-moron and it seems pretty obvious to me.
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Agreed. Its funny that we keep hearing "We're not looking for regime change" when in fact regime change is the only long term solution. The Islamaniacs in Iran can't have nukes, and will never on their own stop seeking them.

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (TN0g+)

357 Witkoff has always been an op that Trump was pulling on the Iranians, nothing more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:17 PM (uWKK

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Making Rope-A-Dope Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (OpF8B)

358 Does anyone actually think that Israel and the Mossad would not know that the Iranians had packed up their equipment and enriched uranium and moved it. That's a long process and then that they wouldn't let Trump in on that intelligence?

Really?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (17s+e)
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The infrastructure needed to further enrich the uranium no longer exists. Which makes the talking point stupid, even if true.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)

359 Speaking of Massie, I notice most of the GOP seems to think I want them out there saying conservative things instead of doing conservative things.

This is...not correct. I want a whole lot more of shutting up and then pleasantly surprising me like Trump with the whole DOGE thing

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (t0Rmr)

360
What sayeth Kintucker Qatarlson about all this?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (xG4kz)

361 $30/hr is insane.

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (Oy/m2)

362 Welcome to Wend'ys may I take your order peasant?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (6iGXV)

363 252 Piper! How long have you been hanging around the Royals ??
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02

One does not discuss such things. 😂

Zara Tindall is an eventer, it’s not a huge circle, and upper level eventers are very cool about helping those at lower levels. I have had the opportunity to meet some flat incredible horse people over the years, it continues even now.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (pZEOD)

364 I thought we were at war with Iran since Nine-Teen Twitckey Nine?
___

I'm curious about the last time the US declared war. 1941 maybe? Not sure if Iran actually issued a 'formal' declaration of war, but their actions of invading US sovereign territory (embassy) and holding diplomats hostage for over a year has got to be an act of war per some sort of official definition of war. The occassional blowing up by Iran of US soldiers that were not engaged in war with Iran probably also meets some definitions.

I'm of the opinion that, official or not, Iran has been at war with the US since 1979, and used whatever means they had to constantly poke at the US by killing US citizens, up to the point they could get away with it without provoking a retaliatory response from the US.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (Dv3i1)

365 The robots will take to NYC's streets carrying their "Fight for $30" signs.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (MMp6W)

366 358 The infrastructure needed to further enrich the uranium no longer exists. Which makes the talking point stupid, even if true.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)

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Assuming Fardow was actually destroyed.

Which is not a small assumption, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

367 The Iranian electrical grid would probably be in better shape without all the money spent on weapons and terrorism.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (qDLvI)

368 Two years ago the conventional wisdom was that China was to be the new hegemon in the M. E., that Israel was moving toward BRICS, that KSA was moving toward China (its biggest customer) and that Iran was to control shipping because there was nothing the USA could do to suppress Iran.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (QQ0oH)

369 359 Speaking of Massie, I notice most of the GOP seems to think I want them out there saying conservative things instead of doing conservative things.

This is...not correct. I want a whole lot more of shutting up and then pleasantly surprising me like Trump with the whole DOGE thing
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 02:19 PM (t0Rmr)

=======

I'll take promising progressive things and delivering conservative things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

370 259 Massie may be wrong on Iran, but his complaints about the Big Bodacious Boondoggle were valid; there are no cuts, only promises of future cuts. And the Green sludge so fund is still in there.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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Reconciliation is a very difficult and easily demagogued process. Simply put, you cannot make cuts in discretionary spending via reconciliation.

It is for taxes and mandatory government spending specifically excluding Social Security. Furthermore, there is the "Byrd rule" that allows the parliamentarian of the Senate to make rulings as to what can be included and what cannot be in the bill.

The information is out there and I suggest anyone interested in the convoluted process to read this CRS (Congressional Research brief) on the process. https://tinyurl.com/3wad9ncp
Link goes to Congress dot gov and CRS brief on it.

Discretionary spending cuts are coming via recission bills under the 1974 Budget Law permitting those to be submitted just like reconciliation on taxes/mandatory spending without a filibuster.

But, you have to have a valid budget framework in place (which the GOP House and Senate finally did in March) to do those.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (ctrM5)

371 348
lol, $30/hr min wage

all the small businesses will just fire all their employees, or go out of business

lol @ "cheaper groceries"
Posted by: Soothsayer

Well, normally they'd just hire illegals and pay them cash under the table at much cheaper rates....

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (JCZqz)

372 Fighter Pilots, Elbow Deep in Trim"

"Big clocks, big ..." er, feet?

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 02:21 PM (tubbA)

373 "Who gets the ladies?"

- - - - - - Fighter Pilots, Elbow Deep in Trim

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

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* snort *

And also the pickup volleyball games with other bare-chested, lotioned-up men!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 02:21 PM (M4BvD)

374
I guess A. H. Khamenei did not read Donald Trump's book (that magnificent bastard).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 02:21 PM (xG4kz)

375 lol @ "cheaper groceries"

Posted by: Soothsayer
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Come on now.

Zero dollars for Zero groceries is pretty damn cheap.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 02:21 PM (17s+e)

376 The Iranian electrical grid would probably be in better shape without all the money spent on weapons and terrorism.

==

As far as I know, Iran looks like peak USSR circa 1975 !

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:21 PM (g47mK)

377 I agree, we can have disagreements and still like each other.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM (hs4ik)

Being against stupid-ass fake bullshit war is absolutely a legit Righty position, sorry. In fact it's the position of most on the Right, or was.

The only reason this *isn't* stupid ass fake bullshit right now is because Trump is at the top and this is probably our only chance to spare the world from much of Iran's widespread murderous jihad bullshit for a few generations.

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 02:21 PM (E0p3T)

378 The Iranian electrical grid would probably be in better shape without all the money spent on weapons and terrorism.

Running an alternate history type thing, absent the revolution in '79 I suspect that Iran would be the wealthiest, most advancede large Muslim country and pretty much what all other Muslims would point to as an example of how Islam could succeed. The Shiite thing might but on a damper on that though...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (t0Rmr)

379 I think he was referring to that when saying Russia wanted to fulfill those nuclear contracts and presumably don't bomb the Russian there.

Some may be conflating nuclear power with bombs.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:14 PM

No he said specifically "nuclear warheads"

1. Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage.

2. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.

3. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads.

4. Israel is under attack, explosions are rocking the country, and people are panicking.

5. The US is now entangled in a new conflict, with prospects of a ground operation looming on the horizon.

6. Iran’s political regime has survived — and in all likelihood, has come out even stronger.

7. The people are rallying around the country’s spiritual leadership, including those who were previously indifferent or opposed to it.


Entire post:
https://tinyurl.com/2n3r52z4
(Zerohedge)

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (6ydKt)

380 Can we call an end to the Steve Witkoff experiment?

It failed. This guy Witkoff hasn't accomplished a damn thing. Get someone else.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (DCmYx)

Kellogg was pretty good at outing the European countries as traitors while we mended fences with Russia.

Haven't been following what the Mideast rep was doing, but having Syria and Iran collapsing is an interesting coincidence.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (8avO+)

381 Assuming Fardow was actually destroyed.

Which is not a small assumption, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, I'm assuming President Trump knows what he's talking about when he says Fardow has been destroyed. Mainly because I've learned, over the years, President Trump tends to be right, a lot.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (tT6L1)

382
I'm curious about the last time the US declared war. 1941 maybe?


Yes

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (xG4kz)

383 Uh oh.

OSINTdefender@sentdefender
Iran’s Supreme National Security Council claims in a statement, that the IRGC and Army “pulverized” the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar in response this weekend’s strikes against nuclear sites in Iran. It further says the number of missiles matched the number of U.S. bombs used, and claims the strike avoided civilian areas, with the wording suggesting that this will be the only military action by Iran against the United States.

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They killed the entire US Army and will kill them again tomorrow!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (L/fGl)

384 not so, their power infastructure apparenly sucks and having plants about the country would be a help. In the Russian deal the Russians would run the plants which would keep bombs from being made there.
Posted by: Oldcat


They would be using different nuclear materials for reactors vs ultra refined materials for bombs.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (5WDkb)

385 >>Given that the airstrike against the Iranian general back in Trump's last term was probably the only time in my lifetime that I can think of a military action that the US has taken in the Middle East that was a complete and unconditional success, I find it a little odd that so many people are completely convinced he doesn't know how to play this.

A lotta people also seem to forget Trump lobbed a bunch of cruise missiles at Syria and that didn't cause a major land war either.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 02:23 PM (viF8m)

386 Iran kinda reminds me of the pretend rivalry between UT and Texas Tech (at least, many years ago) The tortilla people firmly believed they were rivals, but many Longhorns were like, huh?? We have too many rivals. Please take a back seat.

Posted by: H at June 23, 2025 02:23 PM (2gjbv)

387 The muslim world jumped from 7th century into the 20th sometime around 1920s. They is a lot of stabilizing to do. You can take a man out of Mecca....

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:23 PM (g47mK)

388 368 Two years ago the conventional wisdom was that China was to be the new hegemon in the M. E., that Israel was moving toward BRICS, that KSA was moving toward China (its biggest customer) and that Iran was to control shipping because there was nothing the USA could do to suppress Iran.

There was a lot of hair on fire that day, my friend.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 02:23 PM (Riz8t)

389 oh.

OSINTdefender@sentdefender
Iran’s Supreme National Security Council claims in a statement, that the IRGC and Army “pulverized” the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar in response this weekend’s strikes against nuclear sites in Iran. It further says the number of missiles matched the number of U.S. bombs used, and claims the strike avoided civilian areas, with the wording suggesting that this will be the only military action by Iran against the United States.


They pulled Baghdad Bob out of mothballs.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (5WDkb)

390 Assuming Fardow was actually destroyed.

Which is not a small assumption, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

Chief of the IAEA today said in Vienna that he believed the Fordow facility had been heavily damaged. Can't get in to inspect, because Israel staged a strike a few hours ago to make sure that all of the entrances were completely demolished. They've also been destroying the mountain roads and any bridges leading to the facility, to make sure that it will take months to even try to dig it up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK8)

391 Assuming Fardow was actually destroyed.

Which is not a small assumption, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I think Israel has fully penetrated all of Iran's society to the extent that they can corroborate or not our technical satellite/plane derived imagery whether Fordow and/or its equipment was in fact destroyed.

The same for the alleged removal of a bunch of equipment etc from Fordow, etc. before being bombed. Enriched uranium may or may not have been removed but we also have technical means to track such materials that is one of the blacker (tightly held secrets) areas of nat sec capabilities.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (ctrM5)

392 381 Well, I'm assuming President Trump knows what he's talking about when he says Fardow has been destroyed. Mainly because I've learned, over the years, President Trump tends to be right, a lot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:22 PM (tT6L1)

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He could have bad info based on bad assumptions.

They used A LOT of bunker busters. It might have been enough to cause enough quakes hundreds of meters underground, under a mountain, to damage the centrifuges to the point of unusability.

But that's...an assumption. Unless Israel has some intelligence assets in Iran who can verify, which I'd never imagine them admitting to for at least a decade.

So, maybe. But I'm doubtful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

393 There's a solution for that! Price controls!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM


In the name of the general welfare, to protect the people's security, to achieve full equality and total stability, it is decreed for the duration of the city emergency that:

Point One. All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board , such Board to be appointed by the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best serve the interests of the city

Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under penalty of the seizure of their establishment.

Posted by: Directive 10-289 at June 23, 2025 02:25 PM (jc0TO)

394 There's a solution for that! Price controls!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

Absolutely nothing could go wrong with his platform! The minimum wage, the govt run grocery stores, free day care, rent freezes, free transportation, homeless shelters in the subway. All sounds very blissful and realistic.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 02:25 PM (pZEOD)

395 not so, their power infastructure apparenly sucks and having plants about the country would be a help. In the Russian deal the Russians would run the plants which would keep bombs from being made there.
Posted by: Oldcat a

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If someone offers to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge, I would be skeptical if I were you.

Why not gas or oil? They have that and cheap. They can not run a conventional facility but they think they will run a nuke? Why enrichment -- that is very expensive, specialized, and has large economy of scale -- Russia is their friend and has excess capability. This is all bull.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (QQ0oH)

396 Pence praised Trump's Iran action.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:51 PM (VofaG)

Shouldn’t that be a teeenie tiny bit concerning to everyone?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (/CkK4)

397 But that's...an assumption. Unless Israel has some intelligence assets in Iran who can verify, which I'd never imagine them admitting to for at least a decade.

So, maybe. But I'm doubtful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Fair enough. I'll call myself "cautiously optimistic."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (tT6L1)

398 390 Chief of the IAEA today said in Vienna that he believed the Fordow facility had been heavily damaged. Can't get in to inspect, because Israel staged a strike a few hours ago to make sure that all of the entrances were completely demolished. They've also been destroying the mountain roads and any bridges leading to the facility, to make sure that it will take months to even try to dig it up.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK

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So, Iran will end up finding out the state of Fardow in a few weeks at the earliest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

399 Iran’s Supreme National Security Council claims in a statement, that the IRGC and Army “pulverized” the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar in response this weekend’s strikes against nuclear sites in Iran.

==

Hope Ayatollah is reading this momentous news ! This will make his so happy, he might want to call his top clerics and commanders to congratulate !

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)

400
LOL!

Name one country who doesn't regard each and every nuke very precious and near and dear to their hearts.

No One would EVER part with a nuke, not even to their bestest friend.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (DCmYx)

401 With or without the crust? Cut diagonally? Toast the bread first?
Posted by: blake

Without crust and rolled in minced parsley.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (W2Pud)

402 You know what will be funny with the NYC stores? When they can't keep enough junk food on the shelves yet the fruits and veggies rot in the store.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (t0Rmr)

403 >>Reconciliation is a very difficult and easily demagogued process. Simply put, you cannot make cuts in discretionary spending via reconciliation.

I've been saying this here for months. Apparently, some just refuse to accept that there are limitations to what can be done in reconciliation.

There is a second process that is happening simultaneously and it will go on for the rest of the fiscal year and it includes rescission and letting short term spending bills expire without being renewed along with other means.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (viF8m)

404 Trump spox on CNN: “president does not want more engagement in the region”

Good. Hopefully it’s true.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (eZwyX)

405 I'm beginning to understand the comfort of being a fence jockey.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (mlg/3)

406 Two weeks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (6iGXV)

407 Ayatollah, call home!

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)

408 They've also been destroying the mountain roads and any bridges leading to the facility, to make sure that it will take months to even try to dig it up.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK

Sounds like Biden's FEMA

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 02:27 PM (VofaG)

409 Absolutely nothing could go wrong with his platform! The minimum wage, the govt run grocery stores, free day care, rent freezes, free transportation, homeless shelters in the subway. All sounds very blissful and realistic.
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 02:25 PM (pZEOD)
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If I could vote for this guy in NY, I would. Just for the laughs.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 02:27 PM (tT6L1)

Federal Magistrate Orders Trump to Release Abrego Garcia

Back to this crap again.

A Tennessee judge has ordered the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia--a suspected MS-13 member accused of smuggling migrants, narcotics, and ammunition into the U.S.

Key Details:

U.S. Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes ruled Sunday that the government failed to prove Kilmar Abrego Garcia should remain in federal custody before trial.

Garcia, a Salvadoran national, is accused of making over 100 border-crossing trips as part of a years-long smuggling operation. He was deported in March, only to be returned to the U.S. in June to face criminal charges.

Despite acknowledging ICE would likely detain Garcia regardless, Holmes wrote that "the strength of the factors weighing in favor of release outweighs all other factors in favor of detention."

Diving Deeper:

A federal magistrate in Tennessee has ordered the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an illegal migrant accused of operating a wide-ranging human smuggling ring and suspected of gang affiliations. The decision--handed down Sunday by U.S. Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes--denied federal prosecutors' request to keep Garcia in detention ahead of his trial.

According to court records, Garcia allegedly ran a years-long smuggling operation involving over 100 border-crossing trips. Prosecutors say he helped transport not just illegal migrants, but also narcotics and ammunition throughout the country. Despite these allegations, Holmes said the prosecution did not sufficiently prove that Garcia posed either a flight risk or a danger to the public.

"Overall, the strength of the factors weighing in favor of release outweighs all other factors in favor of detention," Holmes wrote in her ruling. "Particularly given the clear default under the law that persons who have not yet been convicted of a crime should be released pending trial."

The Trump administration quickly moved to counter the ruling, filing a notice of appeal and signaling that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) would likely take Garcia into custody regardless of the court's release order. Holmes herself acknowledged that her decision may ultimately be symbolic. "Either Abrego will remain in the custody of the Attorney General... or he will likely remain in ICE custody subject to anticipated removal proceedings that are outside the jurisdiction of this Court," she noted.

The Assistant Secretary of DHS says: Never.

Hans Mahncke
@HansMahncke

Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes--who just went to bat for accused human trafficker Kilmar Abrego--is yet another reminder of how far the system has drifted. Like Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who authorized the brazenly political FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, she isn't a proper judge in the constitutional sense. She's more like a substitute teacher handed the full authority of the principal.

The Constitution lays out a clear process for appointing federal judges: they're nominated by the president, confirmed by the Senate, and granted life tenure under Article III. That system has produced its share of terrible appointments, but at least it follows the constitutional structure. Magistrate judges, by contrast, exist entirely outside that framework. They're appointed by district judges, not elected officials, and were originally intended as limited judicial aides. Over time, however, they've been handed sweeping powers the Constitution never envisioned.

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2

Two magistrate judges in DC are largely responsible for arrest warrants of 1,600 J6ers. They are not Senate approved and have zero accountability. Good post.

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Posted by: RUReadingthis at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (aQ25I)

2 Present !

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (g47mK)

3 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (+qU29)

4 Commissar Judges at it again

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)

6 Top o' the Nooner to ya, Ace!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)

7
¡ESPONJA!

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (tljrc)

8 Time to drop a MOP on these asshole judges.

Posted by: The Truth at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (PzyNU)

9 Howdy, Ace

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 12:32 PM (B5+rm)

10 Was he in the Graetfull Dead?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:32 PM (6iGXV)

11 Should have never brought him back

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12 Judge's little helper. Nope.

Posted by: huerfano at June 23, 2025 12:32 PM (n2swS)

13 This is an order to release Garcia on the criminal charges.

In the Trump application for a stay, they make explicit note that this doesn't apply to the immigration issue and imply heavily that they'll just pick him right back up and deport him again.

The Trump admin brought him here to be an example, and they're going to make sure that example is made.

Still wish they'd left him in El Salvador, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

14 Getting deported then getting caught again according to law is supposed to be a serious offense.
But then the Marxists just make up what they want.

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:32 PM (+qU29)

15 Shackle them together. "You want him Yer Honor? Here he is. Vaya con dios."

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 23, 2025 12:32 PM (kgtlQ)

16 U.S. Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes ruled Sunday that her cooter demands foreign criminal hog

Fixed it.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (2ocoG)

17
Part of me says: cut him loose.

Cut this foreign invader piece of shit loose and watch him not show up for court.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (DCmYx)

18 Why the hell did these morons even bring him back to this country?

He was back in El Salvador. He was no longer our problem. We could have imprisoned him next time he tried to cross the border.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (hB7mE)

19 Kilmar sounds like Kill More.

Posted by: AMIRITE? at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (rqEUB)

20 "He's a bad boy! I can totally change him!" -Average Democrat Voter.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (svLOV)

21 They really ought to have a plan.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (g47mK)

22 They should've strapped him to a bunker buster and let him see Iran for a bit....

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 12:34 PM (jvJvP)

23 Leave me out of this.

Posted by: Judge Barbara Holmes' cooter at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (rqEUB)

24 I never understood why they brought this curdled morlock wannabe back from the shithole they dumped him in. He was gone and already forgotten.

Why the circus of bringing him back just to put him on trial? Just let him rot where he was.

And what happens if he gets acquitted? Don't think it can't happen. It very well can happen.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (iFTx/)

25 "Overall, the strength of the factors weighing in favor of release outweighs all other factors in favor of detention," Holmes wrote in her ruling. "Particularly given the clear default under the law that persons who have not yet been convicted of a crime should be released pending trial."

Sorry, but I can't help comparing this statement to the treatment of J6ers.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (rF2iL)

26 As of 1pm today, I am ordering Trump to un bomb Iran!

Posted by: Magistrate Judge at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (9mw3J)

27 So he gets released from the custody of the USMS right into custody of ICE. He’s not walking out of the courthouse free.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (u73oe)

28 Its a good thing she wears a robe when working.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (FmapG)

29 Willowed

346 335 >>> NEW: Kristi Noem Issues Nationwide Terrorism Alert for America – Iran Reportedly Set to Attack U.S. Military Facilities Within Hours
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A lot of warnings in QATAR. Airspace shutdown. US ordering US citizens in QATAR to shelter in place.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (G0vdT)

30 I rule that Barbara Holmes be forced to wear a clown suit and set up in stocks in the town square of Knoxville. The bad tomatoes and week-old eggs shall be paid for out of Holmes' pocket.
RESPECK MAH AUTHORITAH

Posted by: gKWVE, Magistrate Judge at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (gKWVE)

31 Who's bitch dis is?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (i24o9)

32 release back into the custody of his own country to await his trial. Better yet, if his own country will lock him up let them deal with him. It is madness to spend the $$ and time associated with our court system on an illegal alien unless we know that their own country will just turn them loose right away.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (bP/i4)

33 24 I never understood why they brought this curdled morlock wannabe back from the shithole they dumped him in. He was gone and already forgotten.

Why the circus of bringing him back just to put him on trial? Just let him rot where he was.

And what happens if he gets acquitted? Don't think it can't happen. It very well can happen.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (iFTx/)

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I think it was to destroy him personally as an example to others who fought their deportation orders and an example of malicious compliance to stick a finger in the judiciary's eye.

They should have left him in El Salvador, but if they can make an example of him by convicting him for a prison sentence of like 20 years, which they get a foreign country to manage by deporting him to some place like Sudan, then it'll be a good second choice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

34 isn't it nice that the Supreme Court get a summer vacation of four months ?

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (g47mK)

35 The immigration courts had ruled twice that he should be deported. Only after using the fake ' I'll be tortured 'defense was he not deported immediately.

Hopefully he'll try to skip the country and self deport. He surely can't be relying on a jury to find him not guilty. The only way that could happen is jury nullification. I guess that's possible.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (VofaG)

36 AWFLs have a certain look don't they?

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (YwEeS)

37 Curdled Morlock Wannabes used to tour with Megadeath back in the day.

Posted by: Music Nerd at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (rqEUB)

38 U.S. Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes ruled Sunday that her cooter demands foreign criminal hog

Fixed it.


Yeah, no, just send me back to El Salvador.

Posted by: Kilmar Abrego Garcia at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (Riz8t)

39 The alert will end up being 1 ballistic missile ...that will hit Jordan or something.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (g47mK)

40 35 The immigration courts had ruled twice that he should be deported. Only after using the fake ' I'll be tortured 'defense was he not deported immediately.

Hopefully he'll try to skip the country and self deport. He surely can't be relying on a jury to find him not guilty. The only way that could happen is jury nullification. I guess that's possible.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (VofaG)

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He wasn't deported immediately because the Biden administration wasn't deporting anyone.

Even if the asylum claim had been denied, he'd have still stayed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)

41 I never understood why they brought this curdled morlock wannabe back from the shithole they dumped him in. He was gone and already forgotten.

Why the circus of bringing him back just to put him on trial? Just let him rot where he was.

And what happens if he gets acquitted? Don't think it can't happen. It very well can happen.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (iFTx/)

======

I think it was to destroy him personally as an example to others who fought their deportation orders and an example of malicious compliance to stick a finger in the judiciary's eye.

They should have left him in El Salvador, but if they can make an example of him by convicting him for a prison sentence of like 20 years, which they get a foreign country to manage by deporting him to some place like Sudan, then it'll be a good second choice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe. But that's too clever by (at least) half, and could backfire. All they need is one -- just one -- commie cunter on the jury and he walks.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (iFTx/)

42 Global Hawk has transponder today.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (6iGXV)

43 BREAKING: US District Clown Judge Bozoberg Orders Trump to Retrieve Bombs Dropped On, Reanimate Resulting Dead Generals & Scientists, and Rebuild Iranian Nuclear Facilities.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (gtDRl)

44 This isn't even a Federal District judge. Magistrates are assistants to Federal judges.

So now we have a Presidency composed of more than 1200 judges. And counting.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (Dphv/)

45 Why the circus of bringing him back just to put him on trial? Just let him rot where he was.

They wanted to have him formally found guilty to rub the Democrats' noses in their support of a criminal.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

46 "...did not sufficiently prove that Garcia posed either a flight risk"
_______________________________

They didn't have to, because Kilmar proved that himself by entering a sovereign nation illegally. That implies he has no respect for transport laws, jurisdictions or established legal protocols.

The Judicial system has become a parody.

Posted by: Orson at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (dIske)

47
Yes, how does it make sense to release an Illegal back on to the streets??

He has No Legal Residence here. No legal address.
Where is this bitch "releasing" him to?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (DCmYx)

48 Magistrate judges, by contrast, exist entirely outside that framework. They're appointed by district judges, not elected officials, and were originally intended as limited judicial aides. Over time, however, they've been handed sweeping powers the Constitution never envisioned.

So less than an AOS cardboard membership, Constitutionally-wise.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

49 There is a lot of profit in human trafficking, and a lot of potential blackmail.

Probably more than, for example, profiting off Afghani poppy fields.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (D7oie)

50 41 Maybe. But that's too clever by (at least) half, and could backfire. All they need is one -- just one -- commie cunter on the jury and he walks.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (iFTx/)

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Walks right into the hands of ICE who deports him to any country other than El Salvador.

Like Sudan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

51 ¡ESPONJA!
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (tljrc)



#Winning

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

52 Particularly given the clear default under the law that persons who have not yet been convicted of a crime should be released pending trial."

Sorry, but I can't help comparing this statement to the treatment of J6ers.
Posted by: Emmie
+++
Absolutely. Where was this bitch for 4 frickin years while J6ers were being held without trial for parading?

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (Lo97M)

53
He has No Legal Residence here. No legal address.
Where is this bitch "releasing" him to?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (DCmYx)

Well he does have his wife he beat up..

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (VE6XX)

54 They should release him.... in to a wood chipper.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (UZfgv)

55 So has his wife been in front of the cameras now that the bruises aren't as obvious?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (svLOV)

56 346 335 >>> NEW: Kristi Noem Issues Nationwide Terrorism Alert for America – Iran Reportedly Set to Attack U.S. Military Facilities Within Hours
-------------

A lot of warnings in QATAR. Airspace shutdown. US ordering US citizens in QATAR to shelter in place.


I think we tell the mullahs which of them and their facilities will be eliminated if an American is harmed. And there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (Riz8t)

57 🚨 #BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (G0vdT)

58 "When we said due process, we didn't mean THAT part of due process"

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (/GaVB)

59 He has No Legal Residence here. No legal address.
Where is this bitch "releasing" him to?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (DCmYx)


well, he has that wife of his who he periodically beats severely between periods of abandoning her.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (D7oie)

60 56 I think we tell the mullahs which of them and their facilities will be eliminated if an American is harmed. And there's not a damn thing they can do about it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (Riz8t)

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Caution is the proper response, but we must remember the thing that people would remember for centuries that Iran seemingly forgot to do like a week ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

61 Drag these corrupt judges through the mud of impeachment.

Sorry, I forgot the GOP is involved. 5 years of lawfare have taught them nothing...or has it?

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (Ef4Ak)

62 Okay. Take him to that Central American country where he was imprisoned and set him free. Let their authorities know when he's coming.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (g8Ew8)

63 57 🚨 #BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (G0vdT)

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So, all six will miss and Israel will take out the origin points, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

64 Maybe. But that's too clever by (at least) half, and could backfire. All they need is one -- just one -- commie cunter on the jury and he walks.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (iFTx/)

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Walks right into the hands of ICE who deports him to any country other than El Salvador.

Like Sudan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Again: Maybe. But the optics then would be terrible. He wins at trial but we deport him anyway? It will play right into the hands of the leftwing scumbags who have been screaming there's no evidence he's a trafficker.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

65 So now we have a Presidency composed of more than 1200 judges. And counting.

That's the WEF's plan. The weak point of Western systems of government, including ours, is if you get Marxists in the judiciary.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (2ocoG)

66 He wasn't deported immediately because the Biden administration wasn't deporting anyone.

Even if the asylum claim had been denied, he'd have still stayed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (GBK

He wasn't granted asylum. The courts just ordered he could not be deported to El Salvador.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (VofaG)

67 What was the reasoning for bringing him back after he was deported? They will die on this hill to make sure he goes free and the Supreme Court has already basically said to cut him loose.

Posted by: Eldo at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (kRhM/)

68 57 🚨 #BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (G0vdT)

6 ? They still have 6 ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)

69 Eventually, an illegal alien will perform a monstrous killing of someone important enough that it will change the trajectory of the issue! Then Cryin’ Chuck Schumer will be sobbing in the well of the senate stating that it’s too bad it took a murder for something to be done by congress.

Posted by: Unkaren at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (LPL2Y)

70
So sorry, the Maryland Man elected to go all Major Kong and rode on one of the MOABS dropped on Fordow.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (xG4kz)

71
So, all six will miss and Israel will take out the origin points, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)
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That's what I'm hoping.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:42 PM (G0vdT)

72 Drop Garcia off at that bitch’s house. The Constitution only says the government cannot quarter troops in a private residence not criminals and illegal aliens.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 23, 2025 12:42 PM (Vh9CX)

73 64 Again: Maybe. But the optics then would be terrible. He wins at trial but we deport him anyway? It will play right into the hands of the leftwing scumbags who have been screaming there's no evidence he's a trafficker.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

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In the meantime, ICE is still deporting 3000 a day. Maybe 10,000 a day after the OBBB passes.

This is a stupid sideshow that only matters to the politically connected.

I keep saying that no one cares about Maria. Really no one cares about Garcia, and I think the Trump administration would love the look anyway.

"We'll deport everyone."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:42 PM (GBKbO)

74 If they miss on purpose.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:42 PM (6iGXV)

75 They should release him.... in to a wood chipper.
Posted by: Rbastid at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (UZfgv)



From a helicopter, in a turkey suit, on Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:43 PM (Zz0t1)

76 n the meantime, ICE is still deporting 3000 a day. Maybe 10,000 a day after the OBBB passes.

==

when is that going to be ?

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:43 PM (g47mK)

77 Holmes acknowledged in her ruling Sunday that determining whether Abrego Garcia should be released is “little more than an academic exercise” because ICE will likely detain him. But the judge wrote that the government failed to prove that Abrego was a flight risk, that he posed a danger to the community or that he would interfere with proceedings if released.

So she's doing it for the lolz?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:43 PM (6ydKt)

78 Murder in my heart for the judge.

Posted by: Moby Grape at June 23, 2025 12:43 PM (63Dwl)

79 76 n the meantime, ICE is still deporting 3000 a day. Maybe 10,000 a day after the OBBB passes.

==

when is that going to be ?
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:43 PM (g47mK)

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Senate's making final changes. They'll probably pass it in the next couple of weeks. Then reconciling the two versions.

I guess it'll be on Trump's desk in a month or so, but whig is going to be the better guesser on this. He actually worked on the Hill in the House.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (GBKbO)

80 Leftist love all that is wrong with the world.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (jOnGJ)

81 #BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:40 PM (G0vdT)



Why do I have a feeling Axios has a direct connection to the Iranian terror network......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)

82 So she's doing it for the lolz?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:43 PM (6ydKt)

Maybe they get a bonus like hospitals did for covid "cases." ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (VE6XX)

83 "Maybe. But that's too clever by (at least) half, and could backfire. All they need is one -- just one -- commie cunter on the jury and he walks."

Cheesedick still has valid deportation order. Anywhere but Guatamala.

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (Ef4Ak)

84 Matt Morse TV.


https://is.gd/dw5jsW


Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (6iGXV)

85 Senate's making final changes. They'll probably pass it in the next couple of weeks. Then reconciling the two versions.

I guess it'll be on Trump's desk in a month or so, but whig is going to be the better guesser on this. He actually worked on the Hill in the House.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (GBKbO)

Oh, right. Something about it bein done by the 4th of July.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (g47mK)

86 The left is so desperate to keep him in the country.

Never but never have the fought as hard for a legal law-abiding American citizen.

Never.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (RpoEI)

87 🚨 #BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios

You would think defenseless Iranians wouldn't try to provoke more attacks. And you'd be right...

Posted by: The CIA at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (6bxmr)

88 >>#BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios


They'll lose 6 more launchers.

Posted by: garrett at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (MmNOR)

89 Absolutely. Where was this bitch for 4 frickin years while J6ers were being held without trial for parading?
Posted by: Florida Peasant

Flicking her dessicated bean and laughing her commie ass off? I can only hope that her 37 cats are planning to overthrow her.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (kgtlQ)

90 Our court system is way behind as it is. This punishes people who feel they are innocent and want to get that acquittal, leaving them in limbo for 20 months or more; and allows real criminals to continue preying on the population for those 20 months or more. Overloading the system even more with illegal aliens is showing what low regard the judges have for their fellow citizens. The commies were clever taking over the the law schools.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (bP/i4)

91 They'll lose 6 more launchers.

===

I have a feeling they are about to lose a bit more than that...

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (g47mK)

92
They'll lose 6 more launchers.

Posted by: garrett at June 23, 20


Yup.. Israel will be right on them

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (VE6XX)

93 Trump orders NatSec team to report to the WH.
Events about to overtake everything else.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)

94
I guess this Karen will NOT BE IGNORED ANY LONGER by hall pass scofflaws, so she's stepping out for a new gig: Judicial President of the United States.

I am beginning to think that there are far too many judges hanging around with too little to do in this country of ours.

Excisions! Excisions! Excisions!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (xG4kz)

95 What fvcking factors is she talking about?

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (oyQ/n)

96 Trump warned. Now it will happen.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (91F/+)

97 How big would the gallows have to be to impeach all the treasonous judges?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (jM63s)

98 It will play right into the hands of the leftwing scumbags who have been screaming there's no evidence he's a trafficker.

God Himself could present evidence that the man is a trafficker and they'd still screech about it. They'd even accuse God of being judgmental.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (svLOV)

99
Is Mark Halperin the ONLY one who understands what we're doing?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (DCmYx)

100 93 Trump orders NatSec team to report to the WH.
Events about to overtake everything else.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)

I heard they had a scheduled meeting for 1 PM

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (VE6XX)

101 But the judge wrote that the government failed to prove that Abrego was a flight risk, that he posed a danger to the community or that he would interfere with proceedings if released.

Abrego Garcia--a suspected MS-13 member accused of smuggling migrants, narcotics, and ammunition into the U.S.

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One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)

102 You can flick a dessicated bean? How does that work, exactly?

Posted by: Person without a bean at June 23, 2025 12:47 PM (rqEUB)

103 86 The left is so desperate to keep him in the country.

Never but never have the fought as hard for a legal law-abiding American citizen.

Never.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (RpoEI)

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70% of the people being picked up by ICE are signing waivers that waive any rights to habeus corpus or any other defenses against their deportation.

Under current manpower, ICE is managing about 3000 a day. That's more than 2000 a day just gone with no muss and no fuss.

Focusing on Garcia, one of the worst exemplars of their cause, no matter what some magistrate judge does, is not going to matter to the overall deportation effort.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:47 PM (GBKbO)

104 Leftist love all that is wrong with the world evil.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:47 PM (ExV1e)

105 Least surprising post ever.

https://is.gd/svA3E3

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:47 PM (L/fGl)

106 Leftist love all that is wrong with the world.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (jOnGJ)

Again: Leftists want chaos. They NEED Chaos.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2025 12:47 PM (g8Ew8)

107
God Himself could present evidence that the man is a trafficker and they'd still screech about it. They'd even accuse God of being judgmental.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (svLOV)



They wouldn't acknowledge him actually BEING God and would subject Him to ridicule and accuse Him of being Hitler.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:47 PM (Zz0t1)

108 It's worse than I thought.

Kyle Beckley@Kyle_Beckley
I'm not saying the Ayatollah is in bad shape at 86, but Jill Biden is now running his cabinet meetings.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (L/fGl)

109 Cheesedick still has valid deportation order. Anywhere but Guatamala.
Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 12:44 PM (Ef4Ak)

Yes that's what I meant. Trump sent him to El Salvador in compliance with the previous order.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (VofaG)

110 93 Trump orders NatSec team to report to the WH.
Events about to overtake everything else.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)

——-

Can you imagine that at one time Vindman and Camerrilla were on that team in the Trump 45 admin?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (Vh9CX)

111 90 Our court system is way behind as it is. This punishes people who feel they are innocent and want to get that acquittal, leaving them in limbo for 20 months or more; and allows real criminals to continue preying on the population for those 20 months or more. Overloading the system even more with illegal aliens is showing what low regard the judges have for their fellow citizens. The commies were clever taking over the the law schools.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 23, 2025 12:45 PM (bP/i4)

======

Trump has changed the requirements for those long in the future asylum hearings.

The individuals have to show up regularly. If they don't show up, final deportation order is issued.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

112 Fun with flags!

Matt Van Swol@matt_vanswol
So let me get this straight…
Two months ago, we had Ukrainian flags everywhere.
A month ago we had Palestinian flags everywhere.
A week ago we had Mexican flags everywhere.
Now we have Iranian flags everywhere.
What the hell is going on?????

-
It's quite simple. They're treasonous scum.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (L/fGl)

113 Al Assad air defenses.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (6iGXV)

114 "How big would the gallows have to be to impeach all the treasonous judges?"

Yuge, of course

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (Ef4Ak)

115 One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".

A MAGA hat.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (x405f)

116 Open Source Intel
@Osint613
2m
JUST IN 🔴

Explosions reported at US Al Asad Air Base in western Iraq.
-

Safety to all US and friendly personnel everywhere. Give Iran hell.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (91F/+)

117
Every time...

every single time things get dicey, I have to see how many stupid shitheads we have on "our side."

All it takes is a little pressure and all the cockknockers on "our side" lose their heads and start acting like fools.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (DCmYx)

118 "Maybe. But that's too clever by (at least) half, and could backfire. All they need is one -- just one -- commie cunter on the jury and he walks."

Uhh...no he doesn't He still has two active deportation orders. The ICE detainer is still active. He isn't getting set free on U.S. soil.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 23, 2025 12:49 PM (89Sog)

119 Part of me thinks the administration is not entirely displeased with these rogue justices. They sure are making the case clearly, even to the LIVs, that our judicial systems are deeply compromised by the far left.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 23, 2025 12:49 PM (CwhoI)

120 Can we send Holmes to CECOT please?

Posted by: She deserves worse at June 23, 2025 12:49 PM (TbWk/)

121 Lefties resort to chaos when they lose elections. How else can they win? Their policies are insane!

Posted by: Unkaren at June 23, 2025 12:49 PM (LPL2Y)

122 108 It's worse than I thought.

Kyle Beckley@Kyle_Beckley
I'm not saying the Ayatollah is in bad shape at 86, but Jill Biden is now running his cabinet meetings.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (L/fGl)
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Now that's funny. Late night TV hosts should use it in their monolog. They won't.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:49 PM (G0vdT)

123 There is a us military 737 over Qatar.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (6iGXV)

124 JUST IN 🔴

Explosions reported at US Al Asad Air Base in western Iraq.
-

Safety to all US and friendly personnel everywhere. Give Iran hell.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (91F/+)



This. All of this.

Godspeed, mighty warriors, for your cause is just.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)

125 Human trafficking is not a threat to the community? The Democrat Party excusing slavery is axiomatic.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (pIfcn)

126 #BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios
Posted by: WisRich

=====

So, all six will miss and Israel will take out the origin points, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


The way things are going for Iran, their missiles will hit the Hamas leaders hiding out in Qatar.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (kgtlQ)

127 VOTE VANCE!

Posted by: Sid at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (2zGcv)

128 I heard they had a scheduled meeting for 1 PM

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:4
post said he gave them 45 minutes to get there so that sounds about right.
this has been telegraphed all morning since Qatar closed their air space. They knew well in advance that this was coming. Supposedly the US moved our planes out.
Meanwhile Israel took out at least 6 command and control centers in Iran Simultaneously! with personnel inside. Then rpoceeded to take out a bunch of air bases and kill off a bunch of planes.
This feels like the last gasp attacking our base.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)

129
Achtung, my friends:

Be wary of believing random tweets, especially today.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (DCmYx)

130 It's frustrating that this country will probably collapse because of a group of ugly, middle aged woman that can't control their emotions but were made judges.

Posted by: Eldo at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (kRhM/)

131 The left are like bed-bugs. The whole lot.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (vjnZP)

132 Investigate the judge for getting bribes and /or threats from ms-13

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (Splbu)

133 Is deporting criminal illegals fascism or oligarchy?
I forget.

Posted by: Zek at June 23, 2025 12:51 PM (5FPX4)

134
Now that's funny. Late night TV hosts should use it in their monolog. They won't.
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:49 PM (G0vdT)



The only one that would is Gutfeld. All the other left wing shills will wear turbans and hail the Ayatollah.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

135 >>#BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios


Does Qatar mind?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 23, 2025 12:51 PM (b2L/I)

136 Adios Ayatollah, may your martyrdom be a fiery one!

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:51 PM (g47mK)

137 Posted by: Sid at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (2zGcv)



You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)

138 First attack video. Dig the chintzy muzac!

https://tinyurl.com/54w5zwfs

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (91F/+)

139 Stop putting women in charge.

Posted by: Sorry if the truth hurts at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (rqEUB)

140 Judge Holmes acknowledged that Garcia would be held by the AG or ICE anyway, adding "I'm just an asshole. Tee hee!"

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (wBaIH)

141 Get the troll!

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (g47mK)

142 One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)

Voting Republican

Posted by: Sjg at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (aqZN1)

143 6 whole missles?

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (Ef4Ak)

144 Per JFeed, all missiles were shot down.

Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (qUkBO)

145 If Garcia had a conversion experience. Publicly acknowledged his crimes. And Became proAmerican the Democrats would personally drag him out.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (jM63s)

146 VOTE VANCE!

Posted by: Sid at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (2zGcv)
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In a deep Yiddish accent:

If you're a Democrat, you can vote tvice or even zree times!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (91F/+)

147 144 Per JFeed, all missiles were shot down.
Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (qUkBO)

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Heh.

Hopefully.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (GBKbO)

148 One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)


People who protest grooming children in school board meetings.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (D7oie)

149 I suspect that Iranian attacks will be minor much like the ones after Suleimani and we will leave it at that.

Posted by: blaster at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (RoO7G)

150 they fired 7 missiles - 6 to base in Qatar and 1 to base in Iraq.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (g47mK)

151
1. We don't know if missiles were launched by Iran

2. We don't, and Axios doesn't, know where those supposed missiles were headed. Axios is assuming US bases.

3. We don't know nothing. And I don't believe anything Axios says until it's verified.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (DCmYx)

152 Human trafficking is not a threat to the community?

I'm guessing that 'Our Community' is a lot like 'Our Democracy' in that human trafficking is its life blood.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (A0o6e)

153 144 Per JFeed, all missiles were shot down.
Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (qUkBO)
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That would be great news.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (G0vdT)

154 Our NatSec team

https://tinyurl.com/mverarux

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (t/2Uw)

155 Be wary of believing random tweets, especially today.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:50 PM (DCmYx)


https://youtu.be/bufTna0WArc

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (ExV1e)

156 >>> 145 If Garcia had a conversion experience. Publicly acknowledged his crimes. And Became proAmerican the Democrats would personally drag him out.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (jM63s)

I'm still laughing about "fck your freedom" Arnie giving the twats of the View the vapors by telling them immigrants should 1) come here *legally* and 2) be grateful and give back to the country that took them in. REEE!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (ULPxl)

157 I've come to expect stupidity and mendacity from the Dems but this is a whole new level of incompetent lies. It will not end well for them.

Democrats Got Caught in a Huge Lie About Trump’s Iran Strike
The White House, contrary to the manufactured narrative, conducted its due diligence and reached out to leaders on both sides of the aisle. The administration’s outreach efforts were comprehensive, but in a detail that speaks volumes, the top Democrat in the House was apparently unavailable to take a call of such national security importance.
"In fact, Hakeem Jeffries couldn't be reached," she explained... Chuck Schumer was briefed prior to the strike...The lie was so egregious and so easily disproven that even CNN and Sen. Schumer's office, once confronted with incontrovertible evidence, had to beat a hasty retreat. "So this notion that CNN ran with, that the White House did not give a heads-up to Democrats is just completely false," Leavitt declared. "In fact, both Sen. Schumer's office and CNN had to retract that story last night because it was a blatant lie, and we showed them the timestamps from those phone calls."


https://tinyurl.com/227f8466

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (Riz8t)

158 see, you really can't negotiated with terrorists like the IRanian regime

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (g47mK)

159 She's got history.

---------------

"Hand jobs under the overpass are the primary qualification for Democrat U.S. Magistrate Judges now, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (NEMBm)

160 How to lose your girlfriend in 15 minutes:

'China issues warning to Iran after threats to close the Strait of Hormuz:
“The Persian Gulf and nearby waters are vital trade corridors. They must be kept stable and free from disruption.”'

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (CwhoI)

161 they fired 7 missiles - 6 to base in Qatar and 1 to base in Iraq.
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (g47mK)



Did they fire 7 missiles, or only 6? To be honest, in all this commotion, I've forgotten myself. Do ya feel lucky?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)

162 Alarms in Kuwait. UAE airspace closed.

Martyrs are they!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (91F/+)

163 114 "How big would the gallows have to be to impeach all the treasonous judges?"

Yuge, of course
Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 12:48 PM (Ef4Ak)

Classy. Really terrific. The best craftsmen and hangmen, absolutely the best. We'll have beautiful gallows and the rope with be made right here in America!

Posted by: Make Awesome Gallows Again at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (TbWk/)

164 Continued from #157
Beyond just debunking the central lie, Leavitt exposed the fundamental flaw in the Democrats' entire grievance campaign. The notifications, she argued, were not a legal requirement but a professional courtesy — a courtesy that Democrats repaid with dishonest attacks.

The president has every right to act decisively without consulting Congress yet chose to extend a respectful heads-up anyway.

"The White House was not obligated to call anyone because the President was acting within his legal authority under Article II of the Constitution as Commander in Chief of the President of the United States," Leavitt said. "We gave these calls as a courtesy."

This brings us to the pathetic heart of the matter. Why would Democrats and their media allies fabricate such a story? Why throw a tantrum over the process of a successful military operation that made America safer? Leavitt provided the obvious and damning answer: because they simply cannot stomach a victory under this president. Their Trump Derangement Syndrome makes it impossible for them to acknowledge a win for the country if it’s also a win for this administration.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (Riz8t)

165 I forgot to mention Newsome challenging Vance to a debate. Must have forgotten just how bad DeSantis kicked his ass in their debate. I think Vance's debate skills are just as good if not better than DeSantis. Also helps that Vance is on the common sense right side of every issue.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (VofaG)

166 What retard made the decision to bring him back to this country in the first place.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (setIA)

167 737 just pulled s 360.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (6iGXV)

168 158 see, you really can't negotiated with terrorists like the IRanian regime
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:54 PM (g47mK)

Or female liberal judges

Posted by: 86 the 19th at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (TbWk/)

169 Good afternoon Ace. The Republican Senate will send harshly worded letters , demand hearings and pound the table with "harrumph". Then when the illegal kills a US citizen they'll scream "we told you" and then make commercials for their reelections

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (pwtJC)

170 >>#BREAKING: Iran launches 6 missiles toward US bases in Qatar - Axios

Sky rockets in flight,
afternoon delight...

Posted by: Patriot Missile Vocal Band at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (CwhoI)

171 First attack video. Dig the chintzy muzac!

https://tinyurl.com/54w5zwfs
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (91F/+)


Fake. Missile defense would be like trying to hit a bullet with a bullet. -- '80s Democrats

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:57 PM (ExV1e)

172 160 How to lose your girlfriend in 15 minutes:

'China issues warning to Iran after threats to close the Strait of Hormuz:
“The Persian Gulf and nearby waters are vital trade corridors. They must be kept stable and free from disruption.”'

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (CwhoI)
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Now that's an interesting statement from the Chicoms. Poor Iran.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:57 PM (G0vdT)

173 150 they fired 7 missiles - 6 to base in Qatar and 1 to base in Iraq.


and those bases are completely empty

so not sure of the point, if they did land

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 23, 2025 12:57 PM (Pv3Rg)

174 Fat Karen judge is getting hungry. Hide your children.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 12:57 PM (/U5Yz)

175 >>> 160 How to lose your girlfriend in 15 minutes:

'China issues warning to Iran after threats to close the Strait of Hormuz:
“The Persian Gulf and nearby waters are vital trade corridors. They must be kept stable and free from disruption.”'

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (CwhoI)

Heh.

...really, what *did* OrangeManBad talk about with Putin and Xi recently? Because I seriously doubt anyone told the public more than a fraction of what was covered.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 12:57 PM (ULPxl)

176 The Abrego Garcia World Tour...
Each time he gets deported to another 3rd-world shite-hole, a judge declares it illegal and has him brought back, just 5o be deported to another.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 23, 2025 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

177
DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT MEMBERS OF IRANIAN SLEEPER CELLS CAN ACQUIRE ICE GARB AND MASKS ONLINE THROUGH AMAZON?

DO YOU KNOW AND THEY CAN SEND OUT TO OUR STREETS THEIR OWN KILL SQUADS WITHOUT LET OR HINDRANCE, SCOOPING UP WHOMEVER THEY'D LIKE TO KILL BECUASE THAT'S THE WAY ICE ROLLS?

DO YOU? HUH, DO YOU?

-- our betters, huffing something, on social media

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (xG4kz)

178 Kristi Noem Issues Nationwide Terrorism Alert for America – Iran Reportedly Set to Attack U.S. Military Facilities Within Hours


That's nice.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (/U5Yz)

179 Must be an Irish horse.

https://is.gd/eh6ono

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (L/fGl)

180 My contempt for judges is rapidly approaching my contempt for the Media.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (xcxpd)

181 165 I forgot to mention Newsome challenging Vance to a debate. Must have forgotten just how bad DeSantis kicked his ass in their debate. I think Vance's debate skills are just as good if not better than DeSantis. Also helps that Vance is on the common sense right side of every issue.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM

He wants attention and he knows his pals in the media will work overtime to say he won and JD is an idiot. It was all deepfakes or something they'll claim. I hope no one gives him the attention he craves, he's such a tool.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (hs4ik)

182 Shipwreckedcrew on X wrote this:
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1936978043123441752

"PLEASE -- don't offer opinions if you don't know the subject matter.

He was brought back into the country by ICE.

ICE transferred him to the USMS so he could make an appearance in Court on the indictment.

ICE has always had an immigration hold on him.

A judge in the criminal case has found that he is not subject to detention under the Bail Reform Act re his criminal charge.

That does nothing to the ICE hold -- the Magistrate has no jurisdiction over Immigration Court matters.

If he is ordered released, it means released from the custody of the USMS.

He will go right back into the custody of ICE.

Not complicated -- unless you don't know how the two processes work side-by-side."

Posted by: Caiwyn at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (yHxqC)

183 Hopefully this is all optics by Iran for internal propaganda so they can now climb down and "save face." Iran may have told the US about the missiles, how many, and where ahead of time to prevent escalation. We'll see.

Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 23, 2025 12:59 PM (qUkBO)

184 If Trump were smart, he'd evacuate all the people from all the bases and leave all that shiny military hardware just sitting there, fully intact with keys and launch codes in plain sight.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 12:59 PM (Zz0t1)

185 The immigration courts had ruled twice that he should be deported. Only after using the fake ' I'll be tortured 'defense was he not deported immediately.
---
Because he murdered a rival gang member in Salvador.

Which the media moves heaven and earth to conceal.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 12:59 PM (RpoEI)

186 The biggest threat Iran has at this point is targeted operations at DJT.

Not that they hope to accomplish anything. But what else could one expect from a leadership animated by sadism and zealotry? And, they know they're personally likely to end in a kaboom in the near future courtesy of US or Israel.

I pray for the health and safety of our President.

Posted by: Zek at June 23, 2025 12:59 PM (5FPX4)

187 The left is so desperate to keep him in the country.

Never but never have the fought as hard for a legal law-abiding American citizen.

Never.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice


They don't fight this hard for left leaning school shooters.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 12:59 PM (5WDkb)

188 I think Vance's debate skills are just as good if not better than DeSantis. Also helps that Vance is on the common sense right side of every issue.

I agree, and I say that as a big DeSantis fan. They're both very good at debating, but charisma counts (it shouldn't, but it does) and Vance has more of it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)

189 Iranian General: 'Guys, guys...I said let's go to lunch not launch!!!'

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (Oy/m2)

190 Shipwreckedcrew on X wrote this:

"PLEASE -- don't offer opinions if you don't know the subject matter.



It's like you've never been on the f*cking internet a minute of your life.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

191 138 First attack video. Dig the chintzy muzac!

https://tinyurl.com/54w5zwfs

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:52 PM (91F/+)

The mullahs are not going to like what comes next.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (6ydKt)

192 Yeah like as if terrorists need an excuse to want to attack Americans.

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (YwEeS)

193 Leavitt provided the obvious and damning answer: because they simply cannot stomach a victory under this president. Their Trump Derangement Syndrome makes it impossible for them to acknowledge a win for the country if it’s also a win for this administration.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (Riz8t)

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Or they simply are treasonous scum who hate America and Americans.

I know, I know -- embrace the squealing power of *AND* ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (8XtIN)

194 The immigration courts had ruled twice that he should be deported. Only after using the fake ' I'll be tortured 'defense was he not deported immediately.
---
Because he murdered a rival gang member in Salvador.

Which the media moves heaven and earth to conceal.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice


How can he murder a "rival" gang member when he wasn't in a gang?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (5WDkb)

195 Morons know best:

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
2m
BREAKING 🔴🔴

The Israeli military says it has conducted multiple strikes on missile and drone storage facilities in western Iran.

(Potentially missiles ready to launch at the U.S)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (91F/+)

196
Tim Walz at least is open about his love for the CCP and Chaiman Xi.

Why do other Democrats bother to pretend that they aren't paid stooges?

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (j4U/Z)

197
Question:

Is the Iran IIRGC or whateverthefuck regime in their last throes, running out of missiles, or Iran doing fine and showing their defiant strength?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (DCmYx)

198 >>> 192 Yeah like as if terrorists need an excuse to want to attack Americans.
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:00 PM (YwEeS)

I'm sure klantifa would help if they could.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (ULPxl)

199 "In fact, both Sen. Schumer's office and CNN had to retract that story last night because it was a blatant lie, and we showed them the timestamps from those phone calls."

In our defense, Republican administrations have never shown the evidence that we were lying before. -- Sen. Schumer's office and CNN

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (ExV1e)

200 Boy, it would be awful if something ironic happened to this magistrate.

Sure wouldn't want that. Nope.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (wtvvX)

201
Not complicated -- unless you don't know how the two processes work side-by-side."
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (yHxqC)

This is their plan to Cloward-Piven deportations, if we have to have stupid hearings for 40 million illegals how long will it take?

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (hs4ik)

202 They don't fight this hard for left leaning school shooters.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 12:59 PM (5WDkb)


I don't think they fought this hard to keep Epstein out of jail

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (D7oie)

203 He wants attention and he knows his pals in the media will work overtime to say he won and JD is an idiot. It was all deepfakes or something they'll claim. I hope no one gives him the attention he craves, he's such a tool.

I think he's worried that his chances for the '28 nom are slipping away, and he's looking for a way to stay relevant. Whatever his motivation, Vance would annihilate him.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

204 Investigate the judge for getting bribes and /or threats from ms-13
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport

Bribes?
Gratis!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 23, 2025 01:02 PM (b2L/I)

205 On top of everything else the “judge” is fat and ugly… of course

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 01:02 PM (nrfI8)

206 This is their plan to Cloward-Piven deportations, if we have to have stupid hearings for 40 million illegals how long will it take?
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (hs4ik)


Hopefully as long as a Moonie mass wedding

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 01:02 PM (D7oie)

207 Is the Iran IIRGC or whateverthefuck regime in their last throes, running out of missiles, or Iran doing fine and showing their defiant strength?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (DCmYx)
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Yes.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:02 PM (91F/+)

208 He will go right back into the custody of ICE.

Not complicated -- unless you don't know how the two processes work side-by-side."
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (yHxqC)

Yes but that's not the point. Luckily this is a highly publicized case or the courts/jail would not notify ICE when they planned to release.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (VofaG)

209 "In fact, both Sen. Schumer's office and CNN had to retract that story last night because it was a blatant lie, and we showed them the timestamps from those phone calls."


So, they called Schumer and told him about the bombings, he denied he was ever called and they had to show him the timestamps for a call he KNEW he'd taken?

And tell me again how Democrats aren't lying pieces of shit that should be hanged for being lying, treasonous sonsabitches........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

210 207-I snickered.

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (Ef4Ak)

211 What did they launch at Israel the first night 600 weapons? ( and they were already depleted)

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (YwEeS)

212 And tell me again how Democrats aren't lying pieces of shit that should be hanged for being lying, treasonous sonsabitches........

I...don't think anyone here ever said that.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (Riz8t)

213 Iran was threatening an overwhelming response, right? Or, does their dictionary define "overwhelming" as "tepid?"

Give the Israelis a ton of credit. It appears they've done a terrific job of taking out Iranian missile launch capability.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (tT6L1)

214 203 I think he's worried that his chances for the '28 nom are slipping away, and he's looking for a way to stay relevant. Whatever his motivation, Vance would annihilate him.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

=====

Polling for 2028 right now is entirely driven by high propensity progressive voters. They are addicted to the news and will latch onto which ever is most prominent in the news right at that moment.

Remember Cory Booker's filibuster? It led to him being second in a couple of polls. He's faded hard since in favor of Newsom.

Why? Did Booker not have genuine support? Should we believe Newsom's boomlet more or less than Booker's?

Well, the people answering polls today, especially about the 28 Democrat primary, are a bad sample and will not reflect the actual electorate of the primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

215 Where in the world is Abrego Garcia??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (2yoRf)

216 Aleph א
@no_itsmyturn
Reports: French 🇫🇷, British 🇬🇧, and American 🇺🇸 fighter jets flying over the Persian Gulf.

The base that was targeted housed coalition forces not just the US.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (t/2Uw)

217 Couldn't his "status" hearing be on Zoom. From El Salvador.
The Constitution doesn't require him to be present in court.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (6whZj)

218 .

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (/U5Yz)

219 17
Part of me says: cut him loose.

Cut this foreign invader piece of shit loose and watch him not show up for court.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (DCmYx)

“But HE’S A SWEETHEART!!!” - the Left

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (GK5Hx)

220 "On top of everything else the “judge” is fat and ugly… of course.."

She looks just fine.

Posted by: Elena "Not Even at Closing Time" Kagan at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (5FPX4)

221
of for fucks sake

I'm hearing that fat cocksucker warmonger lindsey graham just said enough of this, time for regime change.

Shut The Fuck Up, You Pervert Pickle Smoocher.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (DCmYx)

222
I...don't think anyone here ever said that.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (Riz8t)



Your point is valid. The quotes posted from DU, on the other hand......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)

223 Ben and Jerry' announces a new flavor.

Kilmar ICE.

Posted by: Innocent child waiting to fly for the first time at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (ReHr3)

224 221
of for fucks sake

I'm hearing that fat cocksucker warmonger lindsey graham just said enough of this, time for regime change.

Shut The Fuck Up, You Pervert Pickle Smoocher.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (DCmYx)

======

I don't think anyone actually listens to him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

225
Vance should simply tell Newscum: "I will debate you, but only if you earn the right to do so. Right now, I have a job to do."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (xG4kz)

226 The regime will change...organically(with a little push from Mossad)

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (YwEeS)

227 166 What retard made the decision to bring him back to this country in the first place.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 23, 2025 12:55 PM (setIA)

Call me a cynic, but I'm guessing someone in the Trump administration made the call for the following reason. Immigration will be an issue in the elections next year. Democrats are going to to paint all illegals as downtrodden grandmothers and children. Trump may want to keep this piece of garbage in the news with court dates until next summer to show who is really benefitting from our non enforcement.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (pIfcn)

228 Iran was threatening an overwhelming response, right? Or, does their dictionary define "overwhelming" as "tepid?"

Give the Israelis a ton of credit. It appears they've done a terrific job of taking out Iranian missile launch capability.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (tT6L1)



I'm still waiting for that thing that we'll all never forget.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)

229 Fuck you, bitch. Make me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (bss/y)

230 So, they called Schumer and told him about the bombings, he denied he was ever called and they had to show him the timestamps for a call he KNEW he'd taken?

And tell me again how Democrats aren't lying pieces of shit that should be hanged for being lying, treasonous sonsabitches........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)
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Cell phones and time stamps...how do they work?

- Chuck

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (G0vdT)

231 UAE and Barain have both issued shelter in place warnings .

Posted by: Jen the original at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (ufrGT)

232 When AOC polls better than Newsome you know the Democratic party is done for.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (t/2Uw)

233
btw, during June, we call it the Gay Of Hormuz.

Right?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (DCmYx)

234
I think he's worried that his chances for the '28 nom are slipping away, and he's looking for a way to stay relevant. Whatever his motivation, Vance would annihilate him.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM

Newsom saw those other tools get arrested and he was so jelly, he's begging Trump to arrest him. I hope they ignore him as he's irrelevant. I mean just stroll around California and that's all anyone should need to see.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (hs4ik)

235 Ben and Jerry' announces a new flavor.

Kilmar ICE.
Posted by: Innocent child waiting to fly for the first time


I like my tea like I like California. With lots of ICE in it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (5WDkb)

236 Leave me out of this.
Posted by: Judge Barbara Holmes' cooter at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (rqEUB)


No, you leave ME out of this!

Posted by: foreign criminals hog at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (yC5D1)

237 Cell phones and time stamps...how do they work?

- Chuck
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (G0vdT)



"Imma let you know just as soon as I go en git me a beer."

- - - - - Chief Lieawatha Warren

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

238 232 She definitely pole dances better than Newsome....

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (YwEeS)

239 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

https://tinyurl.com/j9sw52k4

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (NpAcC)

240
Also, the Iran liars claimed they "moved" all their precious Uranium before the gloriously precise bombing.

I say: the only thing Iran "moved" was their bowels.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (DCmYx)

241 Why? Did Booker not have genuine support? Should we believe Newsom's boomlet more or less than Booker's?

Well, the people answering polls today, especially about the 28 Democrat primary, are a bad sample and will not reflect the actual electorate of the primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (GBKbO)


--

The hardcore Dems go with anybody who's name they recognize from the news for giving Trump hell on TV in the past month.

That's about all it takes these days to get to the top of the heap.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (6ydKt)

242 When AOC polls better than Newsome you know the Democratic party is done for.
Posted by: sharon


The only waitress that brings nothing to the table.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (5WDkb)

243 215 Where in the world is Abrego Garcia??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (2yoRf)

Diego Garcia?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (wtvvX)

244 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 20h
It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (2yoRf)

245 Missiles fired by Iran at Qatar. Why is the Ayatollah still breathing?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (pwtJC)

246 I'm still waiting for that thing that we'll all never forget.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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I dunno, President Trump bombing all three major nuke sites in one night was pretty incredible.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (7fElN)

247 148 One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)

People who protest grooming children in school board meetings.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (D7oie)

People who write/call/e-mail their Reps and Sens.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (GK5Hx)

248 What did they launch at Israel the first night 600 weapons? ( and they were already depleted)

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (YwEeS)
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Nowhere near that. No time now to search for the amount.

Last year was the 300 missiles which Iran sent over at around 2PM on a Saturday night. Irrelevant damage.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (91F/+)

249 Hopefully this is all optics by Iran for internal propaganda so they can now climb down and "save face." Iran may have told the US about the missiles, how many, and where ahead of time to prevent escalation. We'll see.

Posted by: Ghoulposts

So, no hard feelings, right?

Right???

Posted by: Iranian Launcher Crew at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (53oPJ)

250 When AOC polls better than Newsome you know the Democratic party is done for.
Posted by: sharon


The only waitress that brings nothing to the table.

Posted by: rickb223
LOL

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (t/2Uw)

251 Diego Garcia?
----
The Spanish guy in the red & white striped shirt and wool cap who you try to find in the crowd??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (2yoRf)

252 If NY wants a Muslim Marxist mayor they deserve one
Good and hard

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (+qU29)

253 241
The hardcore Dems go with anybody who's name they recognize from the news for giving Trump hell on TV in the past month.

That's about all it takes these days to get to the top of the heap.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (6ydKt)

======

So much of presidential primary power (on the GOP side as well) is driven by name recognition. Hell, so much of politics in general is name recognition. It's how Lisa Murkowski becomes a force in Alaskan politics. People knew her daddy.

"But this person is an embarrassment and this other person is so good on the stump."

Yeah, but the first person is someone people know and the second person is someone no one knows and can't get media traction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)

254 I'm still waiting for that thing that we'll all never forget.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)

https://is.gd/WJnAkO

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (bss/y)

255 "Give the Israelis a ton of credit. It appears they've done a terrific job of taking out Iranian missile launch capability.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:03 PM (tT6L1)"

Undoubtedly a large part of their strategic thinking was that if they effectively took air supremacy, the US Military would advise the President that there would never be a better window than now to follow on.

Posted by: Zek at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (5FPX4)

256 Missiles fired by Iran at Qatar. Why is the Ayatollah still breathing?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (pwtJC)
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'Twould be hilarious if the missiles hit the location where Hamas bigwigs are holed up...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (7fElN)

257
Which district will Abrego Garcia run in for a congressional seat?

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (IifOV)

258
Iran just now: We fired a missile for every bomb dropped on us.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (DCmYx)

259 239 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

https://tinyurl.com/j9sw52k4

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (NpAcC)

I'd like to see a shocking pole applied to both of these bastards.

Preferably 3-phase.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (wtvvX)

260 Missiles fired by Iran at Qatar. Why is the Ayatollah still breathing?
Posted by: Smell the Glove


Attacking a sovereign nation. Isn't that an act of war? Qatar should be pissed.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (5WDkb)

261 239 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

https://tinyurl.com/j9sw52k4
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (NpAcC)

So did NY get a parliamentary system of government, or just NYC?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (GK5Hx)

262 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

https://tinyurl.com/j9sw52k4

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (NpAcC)
-

Farewell, NY!

America, Philistines upon you.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (91F/+)

263 Missiles fired by Iran at Qatar. Why is the Ayatollah still breathing?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (pwtJC)

------------------

My best guess is, you've got a bunch of frightened people sort of running things in Iran. They not only fear reprisals from the Ayatollah, they also rightly fear Mossad. They're flailing, trying to look like they're doing something, because they prefer to keep their heads. But, then again, Israel.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (tT6L1)

264 I like this guy because he's very thorough and also because he talks like Dick van Dyke.

Operation Midnight Hammer: Clear Satellite Imagery of Esfahan and Natanz Nuclear Facilities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWnAYCZxp3g

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (Riz8t)

265 That's what is happening in Europe, big cities are getting Muslim mayor all over

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (+qU29)

266
Iran doesn't know which Lie to stick to.

Iran: your bombs did nothing!

Also Iran: We just equalled your vicious destructive attack on us!

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (DCmYx)

267 I'd like to see a shocking pole applied to both of these bastards.

Preferably 3-phase.
Posted by: Tex Lovera


480V

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (/U5Yz)

268 Life without the internet.

https://is.gd/qmUK3G

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (L/fGl)

269 ---
I dunno, President Trump bombing all three major nuke sites in one night was pretty incredible.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 01:08 PM (7fElN)



Ah, but I fully expect our military might to be that bad ass.

Iran told me I would never forget what THEY were about to do........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

270 247 148 One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)

People who protest grooming children in school board meetings.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM (D7oie)

People who write/call/e-mail their Reps and Sens.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (GK5Hx)

Latin Mass attendees.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (wtvvX)

271 737 just pulled s 360.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (6iGXV)


So it flew in a big circle?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (ExV1e)

272 232 When AOC polls better than Newsome you know the Democratic party is done for.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM (t/2Uw)


The House of Representatives is in session today. Has AOC filed a bill of impeachment of President Trump yet for attacking Iran without a Declaration of War being passed by both Houses?

What is she waiting for? Surely she is not all talk and no action? I just can't believe it? Unpossible? Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (aBgBM)

273 Undoubtedly a large part of their strategic thinking was that if they effectively took air supremacy, the US Military would advise the President that there would never be a better window than now to follow on.

Posted by: Zek at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (5FPX4)
-

Or that could have been the US's strategic thinking and prerequisite before Midnight Hammer.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (91F/+)

274 249 Hopefully this is all optics by Iran for internal propaganda so they can now climb down and "save face." Iran may have told the US about the missiles, how many, and where ahead of time to prevent escalation. We'll see.

Posted by: Ghoulposts
-------------------

I was thinking that. I mean, they telegraphed this move 12-24 hours ahead of time. Then only launched 7 missiles with it dialed back to "please don't let this rocket reach its target" speed.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (G0vdT)

275 267 I'd like to see a shocking pole applied to both of these bastards.

Preferably 3-phase.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

480V

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (/U5Yz)

Well, 240V each sounds good!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (wtvvX)

276 I read that there will probably 5 candidates in the Mayoral election representing different factions. It will take forever to count he votes and figure out who actually won. RCV should be illegal.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (t/2Uw)

277 270 247 148 One wonders precisely what is required in order to be considered "a danger to the community".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)

People who protest grooming children in school board meetings.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2025 12:53 PM

People who write/call/e-mail their Reps and Sens.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:09

Latin Mass attendees.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM

People that give money to their opponents.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (hs4ik)

278 IDF with a pretty impressive "regime change"* target list in Iran the past 24 hours. IRGC getting hit hard, all over the place. Part of the campaign plan to be sure, but some day hope a memoir or something sheds light on how the campaign was adjusted in terms of execution, for ongoing developments.

* funny that Trump made his remark about this phrase, which has become a centerpiece of the clueless and ahistorical mindset gripping so many

Posted by: rhomboid at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (1m82a)

279
in a detail that speaks volumes, the top Democrat in the House was apparently unavailable to take a call of such national security importance.

------

Go away. Packin'.

Posted by: Hakeem Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (1D+/d)

280 221
of for fucks sake

I'm hearing that fat cocksucker warmonger lindsey graham just said enough of this, time for regime change.

Shut The Fuck Up, You Pervert Pickle Smoocher.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:04 PM (DCmYx)

Regime change will happen. Not by us, but by the Iranian people.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (GK5Hx)

281 201
Not complicated -- unless you don't know how the two processes work side-by-side."
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 23, 2025 12:58 PM (yHxqC)

This is their plan to Cloward-Piven deportations, if we have to have stupid hearings for 40 million illegals how long will it take?
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:01 PM (hs4ik)

By Democrat standards, a guy could show up at an airport with a kilo of fentanyl under one arm and the severed head of a child under the other and we would have to grant entry because the person has not seen a judge and not had due process.

Question for the actual lawyers, as a legal principle, does due process necessitate a judge and a hearing? Or can due process be satisfied in some cases at the first point of contact with the accused?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (pIfcn)

282 My best guess is, you've got a bunch of frightened people sort of running things in Iran. They not only fear reprisals from the Ayatollah, they also rightly fear Mossad. They're flailing, trying to look like they're doing something, because they prefer to keep their heads. But, then again, Israel.....
Posted by: blake


Then fire the missiles into the Iranian desert and claim "damage" from all the bombing. Ayatollah can't say anything because they were fired. Falling harmlessly in the desert won't piss off Israel.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (5WDkb)

283 737 just pulled s 360.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (6iGXV)

So it flew in a big circle?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (ExV1e)
-

That's a lotta vomit bags!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (91F/+)

284 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 17m
BREAKING: Air defense system activated in US's Ain al-Assad airbase in Iraq - Reuters

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 16m
BREAKING: IRANIAN OPERATION CALLED 'ANNUNCIATION OF VICTORY' (Operation Basharat al-Fath) LAUNCHED AGAINST U.S. BASES IN IRAQ AND QATAR, IRAN'S TASNIM SAYS

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 13m
BREAKING: Iran launched 10 missiles towards U.S. bases in Qatar, Israeli official says

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3m
QATAR SAYS INTERCEPTED MISSILE BARRAGE ON AL UDEID AIR BASE

*QATAR SAYS NO INCIDENT, NO CASUALTIES FROM MISSILE ATTACK

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2m
BREAKING: QATAR CONDEMNS IRANIAN ATTACK ON US MILITARY BASE IN QATAR

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1m
BREAKING 🚨 QATAR SAYS IT RESERVES ITS RIGHT TO RESPOND AFTER IRANIAN ATTACK

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (2yoRf)

285
https://is.gd/WJnAkO
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (bss/y)



Well played, sir. Well played.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)

286 Yeah, but the first person is someone people know and the second person is someone no one knows and can't get media traction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)

Sometimes an Obama can surprise a Hillary, but he had huge help from the media and viral content on the net.

Yeah, most people don't pay attention other than names and party.

Hopefully breaking the media's stranglehold on publicity now can change that going forward so at least a no-name has a chance to break through.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:14 PM (6ydKt)

287 280 exactly

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:14 PM (YwEeS)

288 On top of everything else the “judge” is fat and ugly… of course

* me: doing the side-eye puppet meme *

Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 01:14 PM (/y8xj)

289 IRGC us the only thing propping up that regime

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:14 PM (YwEeS)

290 282 My best guess is, you've got a bunch of frightened people sort of running things in Iran. They not only fear reprisals from the Ayatollah, they also rightly fear Mossad. They're flailing, trying to look like they're doing something, because they prefer to keep their heads. But, then again, Israel.....
Posted by: blake

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Insty posted an X from someone who said that no one can actually reach the Ayatollah right now. That some Iranian officials want to meet with the US directly, but they need his okay to do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

291 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3m
QATAR SAYS INTERCEPTED MISSILE BARRAGE ON AL UDEID AIR BASE

*QATAR SAYS NO INCIDENT, NO CASUALTIES FROM MISSILE ATTACK

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2m
BREAKING: QATAR CONDEMNS IRANIAN ATTACK ON US MILITARY BASE IN QATAR

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1m
BREAKING 🚨 QATAR SAYS IT RESERVES ITS RIGHT TO RESPOND AFTER IRANIAN ATTACK
Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (2yoRf)




Heh.

Wrong move, space cadet. Hahahahahaha.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

292 Question for the actual lawyers, as a legal principle, does due process necessitate a judge and a hearing? Or can due process be satisfied in some cases at the first point of contact with the accused?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls


Drag a traffic court judge with you. Due process them wherever you find them.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (5WDkb)

293 Just when the hell are these little tyrants going to be told to perform an anatomically impossible act upon themselves. Good grief.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (5xuJ/)

294 As a Reminder and Regarding: All those Iranian Missiles and Nuclear Facilities ...

"We DID build that!" -- Presidents DogEater and PantsShitter

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (XXQL5)

295 Two big circles now. Low and slow.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (6iGXV)

296
btw, it's nice to see andycanuck back here with us where he belongs.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (DCmYx)

297 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

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There is no bottom to stupid.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (L/fGl)

298 284 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2m
BREAKING: QATAR CONDEMNS IRANIAN ATTACK ON US MILITARY BASE IN QATAR

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1m
BREAKING 🚨 QATAR SAYS IT RESERVES ITS RIGHT TO RESPOND AFTER IRANIAN ATTACK
Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (2yoRf)

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Iran doesn't have any friends in the region.

They have to hope that Russia is stupid enough to send nukes. Which they've implied they won't do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

299 Israel doesn't have the deck of hit cards like we did. ( I seriously liked the idea ) .

But maybe it would be good to drop thousands of decks into Iran.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:16 PM (VofaG)

300 >>Is the Iran IIRGC or whateverthefuck regime in their last throes, running out of missiles, or Iran doing fine and showing their defiant strength?


Reports are the IDF is starting to take out Bassidj targets...which would mean they are running low on IRGC targets in those areas.

I don't think the (regime) Iranians are doing well at all.

Posted by: garrett at June 23, 2025 01:16 PM (MmNOR)

301 Blow the dust off a few of these.

https://tinyurl.com/yc6j395b

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:16 PM (/U5Yz)

302 In 1941, Ace took a break on the weekend of Dec. 6 to 7. Came back on Dec. 8 and his first post of the day was about Eleanor Roosevelt's ugly new hat.

Posted by: zombie at June 23, 2025 01:16 PM (pMi6S)

303 737 just pulled s 360.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:56 PM (6iGXV)

So it flew in a big circle?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (ExV1e)



But the trick is when the axis of the circle runs from the nose to the tail.


Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (yC5D1)

304 "Holmes wrote in her ruling. "Particularly given the clear default under the law that persons who have not yet been convicted of a crime should be released pending trial." "

"What law is that, tovarisch? Some law back in your hometown?"
- The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, R. A. Heinlein

ask a J6er about that law, huh? PDT out to appoint a few J6er judges, get some intellectual diversity going ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (alnxS)

305 I'd like to see a shocking pole applied to both of these bastards.

Preferably 3-phase.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

480V
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:11 PM (/U5Yz)


480 / 481

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (B5+rm)

306 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1m
BREAKING 🚨 QATAR SAYS IT RESERVES ITS RIGHT TO RESPOND AFTER IRANIAN ATTACK
Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:13 PM (2yoRf)



Heh.

Wrong move, space cadet. Hahahahahaha.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
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How much Iranian money flows through Qatar? How much is simply going to "disappear?"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (7fElN)

307 Aleph א
@no_itsmyturn
Reports: French 🇫🇷, British 🇬🇧, and American 🇺🇸 fighter jets flying over the Persian Gulf.


I assume the British and French are trying to shoot down the Americans?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (ExV1e)

308 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

Seen this before.

Posted by: March 5, 1933! at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (xTIDn)

309 Trump may want to keep this piece of garbage in the news with court dates until next summer to show who is really benefitting from our non enforcement.

sounds plausible

Posted by: DanMan at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (8uzBS)

310 There will be many like this.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (/CkK4)

311 Air raid sirens in Bahrain?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:17 PM (t/2Uw)

312 286 Sometimes an Obama can surprise a Hillary, but he had huge help from the media and viral content on the net.

Yeah, most people don't pay attention other than names and party.

Hopefully breaking the media's stranglehold on publicity now can change that going forward so at least a no-name has a chance to break through.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:14 PM (6ydKt)

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Obama was regularly polling 2nd more than a year out from the primary. He didn't come out of nowhere.

He was heralded the second he won that Senate seat. He was pushed as the future of the party from 2006 on. Everyone just thought it would take longer.

Yeah, Obama's win over Hillary was an upset. However, it was somewhat predictable pretty far out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (GBKbO)

313 The hardcore Dems go with anybody who's name they recognize from the news for giving Trump hell on TV in the past month.
____

I don't know why I'm getting NY election ads on my Youtube, but it is kind of fascinating in a way to get a glimpse at how they appeal to the particular brand of NY crazy. For example, some no-name running for NY city council says he's the one who can stand up to Trump.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (Dv3i1)

314 > Is the Iran IIRGC or whateverthefuck regime in their last throes, running out of missiles, or Iran doing fine and showing their defiant strength?

Last I saw, Israel had total air control over large parts of Iran and was flying around taking out Iran's mobile missile trucks.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (lIio7)

315 Trump's next post should be interesting.

Of course, he may just answer with a barrage of Tomahawks knocking on the Ayatollah's door.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (6ydKt)

316 299 - deck of cards & a Liberator pistol

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (alnxS)

317 Was Schumer drugged when he took that call he says he never got?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (jM63s)

318
The House of Representatives is in session today. Has AOC filed a bill of impeachment of President Trump yet for attacking Iran without a Declaration of War being passed by both Houses?

What is she waiting for? Surely she is not all talk and no action? I just can't believe it? Unpossible? Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (aBgBM)

Sadly too many stupid people believe the military has 535 CinCs, not one. Nor do many people understand what exactly a declaration of war actually is.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (GK5Hx)

319 Iran doesn't have any friends in the region.

They have to hope that Russia is stupid enough to send nukes. Which they've implied they won't do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


That's what happens when you threaten nuclear armageddon every six months. Your next door neighbors damn sure don't want you to have nuclear weapons. Anyone else far removed for the area isn't stupid enough to send you any.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (5WDkb)

320 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary



I’m not shocked.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (/CkK4)

321 What's surprising is that Iran apparently didn't have any drones stored in Iraq .

Appears today that 10,000 drones > 1000 missiles.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (VofaG)

322
This cunt took time out from eating for free and ruling over juvy DUIs of her idiot lawyer friends and their drunk drugged out shitbag offspring to open her fat piehole on this matter?

Marvelous.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (et1vG)

323 Can a 737 fly at 140 knots that low.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 01:19 PM (6iGXV)

324 292 Question for the actual lawyers, as a legal principle, does due process necessitate a judge and a hearing? Or can due process be satisfied in some cases at the first point of contact with the accused?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls

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For deportation matters and illegal aliens, due process is an administrative hearing in front of an immigration judge where the judge asks for proof of legal residence. When they don't get it, the IJ issues a final deportation order.

That's the proper, established due process for illegals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

325 Illegals have their own "due process" which is entirely separate and different from that given US citizens (or legal aliens, to some extent). Of course this basic fact is ignored (or unknown) by the hysterical idiots and those whipping them up with demagoguery.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 23, 2025 01:19 PM (1m82a)

326 So did NY get a parliamentary system of government, or just NYC?
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 01:10 PM (GK5Hx)
*******
No clue.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

327 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 29m
BREAKING: Video of air defence engaging incoming Iranian missiles over Qatar

https://tinyurl.com/42v4t268
14 seconds; stupid but not overly-loud background music; is that Jack Straw's boat, the Pot Queen, I see there??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (2yoRf)

328 Reports: French 🇫🇷, British 🇬🇧, and American 🇺🇸 fighter jets flying over the Persian Gulf.

I assume the British and French are trying to shoot down the Americans?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


French jets are already dropping white flags.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (5WDkb)

329 Was Schumer drugged when he took that call he says he never got?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (jM63s)

Biden could legitimately claim he didn't remember getting a call.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (VofaG)

330
I'm guessing PDT will not respond UNLESS Iran takes it up a notch.

But...but...I think Iran is done with this conflict and the mullahs prefer to just to stay in power and fight another, much later day. Or not.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (DCmYx)

331 To modify the old joke, what do a 300 pound Tennessee magistrate and a brick have in common? Sooner or later, they're both likely to get laid by a Salvadoran.

Posted by: Wally at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (yVvK4)

332 TJM there's also an appeal element to the administrative process for illegals, and of course there are various others factors (lie parole, TPS, etc) that can cloud the picture. But basically that's the "due process", as you say.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (1m82a)

333 Insty posted an X from someone who said that no one can actually reach the Ayatollah right now.


He is allegedly in an electronics-free bunker, and is communicating with the outside world via runners with written messages.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (xTIDn)

334 It seems that the Iranians thought piling up dirt in front of the entrances to Fordow would somehow stop GBU-57s from damaging their nuke sites. It reminds me of the Iraqis making berms hundreds of miles long to stop us during GW1.

Oh no, it's a ...pile of dirt!
-Abrams driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjQO6XH67fU

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (Riz8t)

335 Nobody get between Massie and a camera!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (u73oe)

336 24, "this curdled morlock wannabe", lol, Ace level language there, Bravo, Elric!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (alnxS)

337 Insty posted an X from someone who said that no one can actually reach the Ayatollah right now.
____

Seriously, send up one of the under-mullahs to knock on the door of the bathroom and ask if he fell in.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (Dv3i1)

338 I'm guessing PDT will not respond UNLESS Iran takes it up a notch.

But...but...I think Iran is done with this conflict and the mullahs prefer to just to stay in power and fight another, much later day. Or not.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (DCmYx)
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I dunno. I think Iran needs to have a few more messages hammered into their thick skulls.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (7fElN)

339 Ayatollah stopped using electronic equipment. Is relying on a messenger or two.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (g47mK)

340 330
I'm guessing PDT will not respond UNLESS Iran takes it up a notch.

But...but...I think Iran is done with this conflict and the mullahs prefer to just to stay in power and fight another, much later day. Or not.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:20 PM (DCmYx)

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Israel isn't done.

Israel wants to hurt the country that funded 10/7, Hamas generally, and Hezbollah.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

341 AoC is putting on a little weight.

Posted by: Everybody's Codetalking At gp at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (t9lPv)

342
Charlie Kirk, nice kid, thinks this was just a bit of "theatrics" from Iran, and it's likely over.

But...."reports" are saying Israel's jets are enroute to Iran skies.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (DCmYx)

343 Yeah, Obama's win over Hillary was an upset. However, it was somewhat predictable pretty far out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (GBKbO)

It was an accomplishment, though.
Considering Hillary had been a household name for sixteen years.

Nobody had heard of O before 2004.

He had help from the left/Soros, media, though.

Hillary always did suck as a candidate, got by entirely on her name & fame, and a lot of the left-wingers in the media couldn't stand her and were glad they could get behind Obama.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (6ydKt)

344 Isn't it illegal to magistrate in public?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (GIGEt)

345 Big Fat AWFL.

Posted by: Jim at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (D7MKZ)

346 AOC, not AoC.

Posted by: Everybody's Codetalking At gp at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (t9lPv)

347 I dunno. I think Iran needs to have a few more messages hammered into their thick skulls.

==

a regime who yelled "death to American" for 46 years, does not have a right to "respond"

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (g47mK)

348 Insty posted an X from someone who said that no one can actually reach the Ayatollah right now.


He is allegedly in an electronics-free bunker, and is communicating with the outside world via runners with written messages.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


Carlos Hathcock could have a field day.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (5WDkb)

349 Are we going to get a thread on Whoopi Goldberg's latest proof of stupidity?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (sZI8v)

350 *regime that yelled that is..

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (g47mK)

351 New study says, psychopaths' are most likely to reside in these four states.

1- Nevada 2- Texas 3- South Dakota 4- New York

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (/U5Yz)

352 Ayatollah stopped using electronic equipment. Is relying on a messenger or two.
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (g47mK)

Carrier pigeons?

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (Oy/m2)

353 Obstacles not covered by fire are useless

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (YwEeS)

354 My best guess is, you've got a bunch of frightened people sort of running things in Iran. They not only fear reprisals from the Ayatollah, they also rightly fear Mossad. They're flailing, trying to look like they're doing something, because they prefer to keep their heads. But, then again, Israel.....

Posted by: blake

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There are also reports (can't confirm) of dissidents and suspected spies being rounded up by the hundreds and executed by the Islamic Morality Police as you'd expect from a totalitarian regime.

I wonder how many military and civilian loyalist assets are nervously and constantly looking over their shoulders?

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (nFkGo)

355
That's what happens when you threaten nuclear armageddon every six months. Your next door neighbors damn sure don't want you to have nuclear weapons. Anyone else far removed for the area isn't stupid enough to send you any.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:18 PM (5WDkb)
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Yeah, and that's why one cannot take anything the left says about this seriously. If the region was okay with Iran having nuclear weapons they wouldn't have allowed Israel and the US to overfly their airspace.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (tT6L1)

356 >>The hardcore Dems go with anybody who's name they recognize from the news for giving Trump hell on TV in the past month.

FYI - link goes to NYT

https://tinyurl.com/4drufrhy

"Why Democrats Need Their Own Trump"

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (aBgBM)

357 The surveillance state.

https://is.gd/zg1mD7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (L/fGl)

358 Just call the ayatollah's beeper. I'm sure he will get right back to you.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (17s+e)

359 Was Schumer drugged when he took that call he says he never got?

If he did get the call and didn't call CNN immediately after hanging up, then credit where due. I liked the other story better though, the one where he wasn't called.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM (/y8xj)

360 341 AoC is putting on a little weight.
Posted by: Everybody's Codetalking At gp at June 23, 2025 01:22 PM (t9lPv)

For a while I thought she was pregnant but now I think too many meals with lobbyists. And she orders apps and desserts.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM (hs4ik)

361 Wait the I in MIGA is Iran?

Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM (/CkK4)

362 "this curdled morlock wannabe", lol, Ace level language there, Bravo, Elric!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (alnxS)
_____

The Blade ... he tries ...

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM (iFTx/)

363 and those bases are completely empty

so not sure of the point, if they did land
Posted by: Black Orchid


It is strange. If this choreography, as discussed with Bartiromo, came out of the negotiations between Trump and Iran, why the theater? Just tell us.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM (ojv3z)

364 Well, it WAS a damn ugly hat...

Posted by: To be fair at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (rqEUB)

365 Yeah I honestly thought AOC was preggers but apparently it's just Trump hate weight...

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (YwEeS)

366 Lemme splain somethin about New York State politics. The Democrat Party machine runs the show. Whoever they want to win, will win. Every trick about endless vote counting, court cases, and procedural BS they use in the general elections they also use in the primary to get the desired result.

A few years back in the Mayoral race in Buffalo the socialist candidate edged out the three term incumbent Democrat. They got caught sleeping, because the result was assumed to be a foregone conclusion.

The state party machine initiated a write in campaign against the official Democrat candidate. Wanna guess who got sworn in when the dust settled?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (pIfcn)

367 Trump already warned Iran not to retaliate.

Now they're attacking U.S. bases.

He can't let that slide.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (6ydKt)

368 3. We don't know nothing. And I don't believe anything Axios says until it's verified.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23,

But I do trust Biden’s Dog.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (pRpzT)

369 Are we going to get a thread on Whoopi Goldberg's latest proof of stupidity?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Beating a dead horse. Or, in this case, a fat pig.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (L/fGl)

370 New study says, psychopaths' are most likely to reside in these four states.

1- Nevada 2- Texas 3- South Dakota 4- New York


I assume that in Texas, they mean Houston drivers.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (/y8xj)

371 If the region was okay with Iran having nuclear weapons they wouldn't have allowed Israel and the US to overfly their airspace.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (tT6L1)

Do they really have a choice though? Is Syria’s Air Force gonna engage? Do they even have an AF?

Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (/CkK4)

372 Wait the I in MIGA is Iran?
Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho


Idiocracy! Come back, people!

Posted by: This, is CNN at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (STfYR)

373 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 15m
WATCH: Iranian missiles over the sky in Qatar; loud booms heard.

https://tinyurl.com/yhjyr42d
29 seconds; different video; yelling Arabs but at least no music!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (2yoRf)

374 Name recognition is one reason I think actually upsetting some smaller races is within the reach of a small group of donors who can pull together something like $1 million.

Go to a state where legislature races are relatively cheap (like South Carolina where legislators are part time so state house races are cheap), find some squishy backbencher, and then get some primary opponent's name on 10,000 signs around the district 3 months out from the election (along with other GOTV efforts).

Get that name recognition up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

375 US planes in the air now over Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (91F/+)

376 Remaining Iranian missiles and their delivery system

https://is.gd/2Na9LT

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (S/Y4j)

377 New study says, psychopaths' are most likely to reside in these four states.

1- Nevada 2- Texas 3- South Dakota 4- New York
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (/U5Yz

And the study was done by someone in CA obviously.

Per capita , Alaska has the most serial killers. By number , CA does.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (VofaG)

378 367 Trump already warned Iran not to retaliate.

Now they're attacking U.S. bases.

He can't let that slide.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (6ydKt)

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Since nothing hit, he can pretty easily let it slide.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

379 YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITIE!

Posted by: U.S. Majesty Judge Holmes at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (V362x)

380 Hmmm. Seems Iran has miscalculated. They thought they were giving a proportionate response, like after Haniyeh's assassination, and thought they would be done.
However, they sent missiles against 4 sovereign ME countries and the US and Trump warned them about this.

America will not remain silent. U.S. commanders have now classified tonight’s strikes as a major attack and are preparing a decisive response. Allied forces across CENTCOM are on maximum alert.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (t/2Uw)

381 Ahem, we were saying....

I was thinking that. I mean, they telegraphed this move 12-24 hours ahead of time. Then only launched 7 missiles with it dialed back to "please don't let this rocket reach its target" speed.
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 01:12 PM (G0vdT)
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NYT's

BREAKING: Iran coordinated its attacks on US air base in Qatar with the Qatari government, giving advanced notice to minimize casualties - NYT

Iranian officials claimed Iran "symbolically" needed to strike back, but also wanted an exit ramp - similar to 2020.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (G0vdT)

382
233
btw, during June, we call it the Gay Of Hormuz.

Right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:06 PM

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The Gulp.

Posted by: Hakeem Jeffries at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (ES1Rb)

383 361 Wait the I in MIGA is Iran?
Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM


Persia.

Posted by: It'll always be Burma to me at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (rqEUB)

384
Trump already warned Iran not to retaliate.

Now they're attacking U.S. bases.

He can't let that slide.
Posted by: SpeakingOf


He can, and he will.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (DCmYx)

385 239 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

https://tinyurl.com/j9sw52k4
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM

Blow the bridges, close the airspace and fortify the border around New York City and keep them trapped in the carnage they voted for.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (IifOV)

386 "New study says, psychopaths' are most likely to reside in these four states.

1- Nevada 2- Texas 3- South Dakota 4- New York"

No Florida?! Fail.

Posted by: Everybody's Codetalking At gp at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (t9lPv)

387 Watching car chases. They set the police dog on the wrong person!! Doggy was biting like my old lorikeet, sink in his Jaws and shake his head.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (GIGEt)

388 Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (/U5Yz

And as an aside, I've resided in 3 out of 4 of those states.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (VofaG)

389 Do they really have a choice though? Is Syria’s Air Force gonna engage? Do they even have an AF?
Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (/CkK4)
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Several countries make bank off of "Death to Israel." They've not said much about Israel going after Iran. I find the silence to be instructive.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (tT6L1)

390 >>Was Schumer drugged when he took that call he says he never got?

I've found life is simpler when you immediately take everything a Democrat says or writes to be a big fat stinkin' lie.

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (aBgBM)

391 361 Wait the I in MIGA is Iran?
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Yes.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (2yoRf)

392
L.A., Chicago, and NYC are about to have mayors Stalin would have had shot for being "too far out there."

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (j4U/Z)

393 Do they really have a choice though? Is Syria’s Air Force gonna engage? Do they even have an AF?

Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (/CkK4)
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IAF destroyed it, both after 10/7 and after Assad overthrow.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (91F/+)

394 Still think Cuomo wins the Dem primary. NYC Dem primary is ranked choice and the shenanigans will be fun to watch. If it gets bad enough Sliwa the Republican may have a chance in November because Adams is running as an independent. Mamdani winning the Dem nod may freak out enough independents that they may vote Republican

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (pwtJC)

395 Blow the bridges, close the airspace and fortify the border around New York City and keep them trapped in the carnage they voted for.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (IifOV)

Just be careful flying over...

Posted by: Snake Plisken at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (mP0Kj)

396 Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary

https://tinyurl.com/j9sw52k4
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 01:07 PM (NpAcC)

Let NYC ride that barbed-wire cock all the way to hell. I really don't give a shit.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (g8Ew8)

397 394 Still think Cuomo wins the Dem primary. NYC Dem primary is ranked choice and the shenanigans will be fun to watch. If it gets bad enough Sliwa the Republican may have a chance in November because Adams is running as an independent. Mamdani winning the Dem nod may freak out enough independents that they may vote Republican
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (pwtJC)

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Polling sucks.

Polling on RCV is probably nearly impossible.

We'll see tomorrow how things shake out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

398 So if I understand this ruling correctly.

Accused of human smuggling: not serious enough to be detained pre trial

Accused of entering the capitol building for 15 minutes without a permit: serious enough to be detained pre trial

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (/CkK4)

399 This will work in our favor come election time.

Bringing this scum back is a stupid look.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (PMtkd)

400 New study says, psychopaths' are most likely to reside in these four states.

1- Nevada 2- Texas 3- South Dakota 4- New York


Thank goodness, you've been alerted about Texas. It's not safe here. Best stay away.

Posted by: Try Louisiana at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (qE+/V)

401 Bring Me the Head of Abrego Garcia!

Posted by: It's a reboot at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

402 A man on X shares that he has no video of him with his mom. He has a picture of them together and AI was able to create a beautiful short video of a hug between him as a boy and his mother.

The replies are full of crazy whackjobs screaming that this is a Black Mirror, black tar heroin, false memory nightmare.

Why are people so broken?

http://tiny.cc/h4sn001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (lIio7)

403 Nood.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 23, 2025 01:29 PM (lIio7)

404 Apparently, Qatar is pissed off at having missiles tossed at their air base they actually own and rent to the USA. They are not buying the Iranians saying it’s not directed at their “brothers” in Qatar.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (ufrGT)

405
Think about it:

It would be smart to allow Iran to symbolically have the "last word" in this matter, at this point.

And I think that's our plan. (Unless Iran does something really stupid and actually kills an American somewhere.)

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (DCmYx)

406 Now they're attacking U.S. bases.

He can't let that slide.
Posted by: SpeakingOf


You can be sure Linsey Graham won't!

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (ojv3z)

407 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 19m
BREAKING: U.S. President Donald Trump is currently in the White House Situation Room, monitoring Iranian retaliation.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (2yoRf)

408 "I've found life is simpler when you immediately take everything a Democrat says or writes to be a big fat stinkin' lie.

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (aBgBM)"

words to live by!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (alnxS)

409 >>>He is allegedly in an electronics-free bunker, and is communicating with the outside world via runners with written messages.

My time to shine!

Posted by: Auto Pen at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (CwhoI)

410 398 So if I understand this ruling correctly.

Accused of human smuggling: not serious enough to be detained pre trial

Accused of entering the capitol building for 15 minutes without a permit: serious enough to be detained pre trial
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 01:28 PM (/CkK4)


And after he illegally crossed the border HUNDREDS of times, he is not a flight risk?

Posted by: Snake Plisken at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (mP0Kj)

411 BREAKING: Iran coordinated its attacks on US air base in Qatar with the Qatari government, giving advanced notice to minimize casualties

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this is fucking bullshit. they could have gone on the exit ramp when Trump gave them one, not after shooting missiles at our bases!

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:30 PM (g47mK)

412 this game of "let us save face" is over

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (g47mK)

413 Ayatollah stopped using electronic equipment. Is relying on a messenger or two.
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (g47mK)

Carrier pigeons?
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 01:23 PM (Oy/m2)

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We supposedly found Bin Laden by identifying and tracking his personal courier.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (nFkGo)

414 365 Yeah I honestly thought AOC was preggers but apparently it's just Trump hate weight...
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 01:25 PM (YwEeS)

Maybe she was, but the situation wasn't "right for Her" at this time in Her life.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (8hxDK)

415 1- Nevada 2- Texas 3- South Dakota 4- New York

I assume that in Texas, they mean Houston drivers.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 01:26 PM (/y8xj)

We are FINALLY number one at something.

Posted by: Nevada at June 23, 2025 01:31 PM (LgDgc)

416 OSINTdefender @sentdefender 10m
Statement from the Qatari Ministry of Defense in response to the ballistic missile attack moments ago by Iran:

“The Ministry of Defense announced that Qatari air defenses successfully intercepted a missile attack targeting Al Udeid Air Base.

Thanks to God and the vigilance of the armed forces personnel and the precautionary measures taken, the incident resulted in no deaths or injuries.

The Ministry reaffirmed that the airspace and territory of the State of Qatar are safe and that the Qatari Armed Forces are always fully prepared to deal with any threat. The Ministry of Defense also advises citizens and residents to follow official sources for directives and the latest developments.”

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (2yoRf)

417 BREAKING: U.S. President Donald Trump is currently in the White House Situation Room, monitoring Iranian retaliation.
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Send bill for damages.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (Dv3i1)

418 He can, and he will.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (DCmYx)

I suppose he might give them a freebie to save face if there's some kind of negotiated ceasefire coming, but other than that I don't see Trump saying; 'Sure, light up our bases, I don't mind. You feel better now, Khameni? That's a good boy.'

I've been surprised before, though.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (6ydKt)

419 OSINTdefender @sentdefender 5m
According to the New York Times, Iran coordinated the missile attack tonight on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar with Qatari officials and gave advanced notice that attacks were coming to minimize casualties, according to three Iranian officials familiar with the plans. The officials said Iran symbolically needed to strike back at the U.S. but at the same time carry it out in a way that allowed all sides an exit ramp; they described it as a similar strategy to 2020 when Iran gave Iraq heads up before firing ballistic missiles at Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq following the assassination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani by President Trump.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 01:32 PM (2yoRf)

420 NYT's

BREAKING: Iran coordinated its attacks on US air base in Qatar with the Qatari government, giving advanced notice to minimize casualties - NYT

Iranian officials claimed Iran "symbolically" needed to strike back, but also wanted an exit ramp - similar to 2020.
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 01:27 PM (G0vdT)

Kind of makes me feel a little better about the failure theater here when Iran can have the kind of cultural and religious homogeneity not seen in the west since probably before the Protestant Reformation and do the same kind of thing.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (B9Prs)

421 NYT is talking out it's butt if it thinks you can coordinate "fake" responses. One missile going off course and the "fake" becomes real.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:34 PM (pwtJC)

422 >>> 361 Wait the I in MIGA is Iran?
Posted by: Illinois, Iowa, Idaho at June 23, 2025 01:24 PM (/CkK4)

No.

Posted by: Indiana at June 23, 2025 01:35 PM (ULPxl)

423 It seems that the Iranians thought piling up dirt in front of the entrances to Fordow would somehow stop GBU-57s from damaging their nuke sites. It reminds me of the Iraqis making berms hundreds of miles long to stop us during GW1.

Oh no, it's a ...pile of dirt!
-Abrams driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjQO6XH67fU
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 01:21 PM (Riz8t)


Even the Israelis once made that mistake, with the Bar-Lev Line that they built on the E bank of the Suez Canal after the '67 war. 70 ft tall berms right at the edge of the canal, along with strong points and fortresses.

In '73, the Egyptians got creative and just breached the berms with fire hoses sucking water out of the canal. Took about 2 hours to break through in about 70-80 places. Another 3 hours to build bridges and the Gyppos were pouring through the gaps. The IDF had estimated that it would take close to 24 hours just to make suitable breaches.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 01:36 PM (y9nCu)

424 Trump: MIGA
Media : Trump said the n word, Trump said the n word

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 01:37 PM (pwtJC)

425 I have to say, I love that the radical left media, politicians, and judges all hung their hats on this guy as the poster trial for due process.

Because the more we learn about his human trafficking, wife beating, pedo ways, the more it shows what complete idiots they are.

But in what universe would he NOT be a flight risk, were he released? Fine, the judge can have him detained on an ankle monitor at HER house until his trial.

Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:43 PM (Eng1Z)

426 Poster boy, not poster trial.

Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 01:44 PM (Eng1Z)

427 *Because the more we learn about his human trafficking, wife beating, pedo ways, the more it shows what complete idiots they are.*

But he was just turning his life around...

Posted by: Local media at June 23, 2025 01:45 PM (rqEUB)

428 Nood, nooder,

Posted by: Noodist at June 23, 2025 01:46 PM (rqEUB)

429 Just call the ayatollah's beeper. I'm sure he will get right back to you.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger


Beep the Ayatollah.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 01:48 PM (5WDkb)

430 What a despicable land whale.

Posted by: dcm at June 23, 2025 02:01 PM (+CpZu)

431 Obama Executive Action used in direct opposition to law, unilaterally changed the law for at least five million illegal aliens; Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; He shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8

Obama Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8

Unilaterally issued new exemptions to immigration restrictions law that bars certain asylum-seekers and refugees who provided limited material support to terrorists. Article 1 Section 1; Article I Section 8 Congress (has) the Power..to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization

Issued directive instructing ICE to NOT enforce immigration laws in certain cases. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; He...Laws be faithfully executed, Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8

Release of convicted illegal aliens ordered in direct opposition to law, Article II Section 3

Posted by: ju at June 23, 2025 02:12 PM (vgX6l)

432 Expanded executive action for amnesty to illegal immigrant relatives of DREAM Act beneficiaries. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; He...Laws be faithfully executed, Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8

Executive action directing DHS that almost all immigration offenses were unenforceable, absent a separate criminal conviction. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; He...Laws be faithfully executed, Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8

Ignored Law (2006 Secure Fence Act) He...Laws be faithfully executed, Article II Section 3

DOJ used to prevent Arizona and Alabama from enforcing immigration laws. 10th Amendment (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) 10th Amendment

US Senate/Obama (both approved) immigration bill to raise revenue. Section 7 All Bills for Raising Revenue shall Originate in the House of Representatives

Posted by: ju at June 23, 2025 02:13 PM (vgX6l)

THE MORNING RANT: Local Tennessee News of National Importance – 6/23/2025

Newspaper - Local News - National Importance.JPG

Much like the Powerline guys reporting on Minnesota stories that have national significance, I’d like to report on a few things going on here in Tennessee that have importance beyond the state.

*****

President Trump Fires Another Climate Cultist from TVA’s Board

Donald Trump has just fired another radical left-wing climate cultist from the Board of the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), the utility which provides electricity to seven states in the South. This is the 3rd radical ecovangelist appointed by Joe Biden that Trump has removed from TVA’s board.

“President Trump fires third TVA board member since March” [WATE Knoxville – 6/11/2025]

Beth Geer was appointed in 2023 by President Biden (or more likely by his handlers) and her tenure on the TVA board was supposed to go through 2026.

How radical is she? Very radical, as documented in this story from the Chattanooga newspaper a few days ago:

"I believe that carbon pollution is a public health emergency," Geer said. "When the health and safety of our communities, children and grandchildren are at stake, we must act ... and we must move quicker to address the climate crisis."

Geer, who chaired the board committee in charge of executive pay incentives, celebrated at a meeting in November a new payout incentive based on how quickly TVA expands renewable energy.

"We need to go further, faster on our renewable energy goals," Geer said in May 2024. "We hear you, we see you, we are working on it. I just want to say that out loud."

"One item that was very important to me as we develop goals this year was to ensure that we are, in fact, incentivizing management to increase carbon free resources."

Those of us who rely on the TVA for electricity dodged a bullet with Donald Trump’s election.

And by the way, the “true conservatives” at National Review and the rest of Conservative, Inc. got their way when Joe Biden was “elected” President in 2020. Biden then stuffed TVA’s board with radical anti-carbonists. In 2024, National Review and Conservative, Inc. again worked to defeat Donald Trump (to “save conservatism” and thereby elect Kamala Harris. She would have not only kept Biden’s TVA appointees, but added more “net zero” zealots to it.

Donald Trump flushing the climate communists out of the TVA is actual, real-life conservatism in action. Meanwhile, as I scan National Review and their Twitter feeds, I see that Dan and Charlie et al are having the vapors over Donald Trump’s handling of Tik Tok, which violates some sacred penumbra of “true conservatism,” yet they were perfectly willing to let Biden and Kamala inflict the left’s decarbonization agenda on residents of the Tennessee Valley. If that is “principled conservatism,” please give me Donald Trump’s unprincipled version instead.

*****

Parking Garage Fire in Nashville Causes Structural Damage

There is an emerging trend of parking garage fires that are so intense that they cause structural damage to the building itself. Just a month ago I wrote about the massive fire at a garage at Jacksonville’s airport. It was so intense that it caused a partial collapse of the structure. The vehicle that started the Jacksonville fire is was a BMW, but the ATF has still not confirmed if it was an EV / plug-in hybrid. I have my suspicions.

Just a few days ago, there was another massive fire at a public parking garage in Nashville. It too was so intense that it caused a partial collapse of the structure. In fact, the damage is so extensive that the adjacent downtown library has been closed for at least a month due to damage.

“Nashville Public Library to close for nearly a month after garage fire” [Tennessean – 6/16/2025]

The cause is still being determined, but the intensity of the fire gives a clue. Also, much of the fleet where the fire started belonged to a left-wing public agency committed to all the sustainable, green nonsense that is associated with promoting EVs.

The garage, owned by the Nashville Department of Transportation and operated by the Nashville Downtown Partnership, provided access to the Downtown library branch and the Renaissance Hotel on Commerce Street.

Fire crews responded to the garage at about 1:30 a.m. to find multiple upper floors of the structure in flames. Many of the Downtown Partnership's vehicles were parked on the top floor. A ramp between the fourth and fifth floors collapsed and several beams on the same floor were damaged, officials said.

I continue to follow both of these garage fires. I’ll let you know if/when it is confirmed that these were ignited by EVs.

*****

Radical, Left-Wing, Bureaucratic Waste at the University of Tennessee

An employee at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, specifically a person with the job title “Content Strategy Manager for UT Knoxville’s Division of Student Life,” is publicly likening Donald Trump’s policies to the Holocaust, stating that, “the events happening in the US are identical to what happened in 1930s Germany.”

Deep-red Tennessee is using Tennessee tax dollars (and student tuition) to pay this woman’s salary so that she can have a platform to make those slanderous charges.


Several elected officials have contacted the university’s President, Randy Boyd, advising him he’d better sit on that zoo faculty of his.



A better message to send to President Boyd would be for the legislature to cut the university’s budget while freezing tuition. So long as the payroll includes a Content Strategy Manager for the Division of Student Life who accuses the U.S. of being Nazi Germany, there is plenty of room for belt tightening at the University of Tennessee.

*****

My Latest Piece at The Blaze – “Philanthropaths”

My latest piece at The Blaze has been published, “Meet the ‘philanthropaths’ spending billions to kill the American dream.” It discusses the existential threat we face from sociopathic billionaires (“philanthropaths” who are using their fortunes as a weapon to tear down western civilization.

So yes, I’m more open to separating sociopathic billionaires from their wealth than I once was. I still believe in economic liberty. But liberty doesn’t mean allowing radicalized aristocrats to fund our destruction.

It’s behind a paywall, but if you’re a Blaze subscriber, I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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1 !!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:01 AM (6o/o0)

2 Burning love.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 11:01 AM (puJo/)

3 "Philanthopaths"

Perfection, Buck!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM (6o/o0)

4 "I believe that carbon pollution is a public health emergency," Geer said. "When the health and safety of our communities, children and grandchildren are at stake, we must act ... and we must move quicker to address the climate crisis."

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Quite the viewpoint for someone tasked with running one of the most important and largest energy companies in America.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM (GBKbO)

5 "We need to go further, faster on our renewable energy goals," Geer said in May 2024. "We hear you, we see you, we are working on it. I just want to say that out loud."

And when I say "We hear you, we see you, we are working on it", I mean, we're ignoring you completely, and doing whatever the hell we want, while expecting you to pay for it.

Posted by: Beth Geer at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM (Riz8t)

6 Commenting present until coffee

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM (+qU29)

7 “Nashville Public Library to close for nearly a month after garage fire”

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Pedo hobos with internet privileges hardest hit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 23, 2025 11:03 AM (JkO4W)

8 Beth Geer was appointed in 2023 by President Biden (or more likely by his handlers) ...

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Otto Pilot > Auto Pen

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:04 AM (mfM/h)

9 aving the vapors over Donald Trump’s handling of Tik Tok, which violates some sacred penumbra of “true conservatism,”

I learned some time ago to ditch all the labels. You're either a common sense #Based citizen, or you're not.

Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2025 11:04 AM (dCxaZ)

10 So long as the payroll includes a Content Strategy Manager for the Division of Student Life who accuses the U.S. of being Nazi Germany, there is plenty of room for belt tightening at the University of Tennessee.

What the hell is a "content strategy manager". These people just make stuff up and expect to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Beth Geer at June 23, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

11 Content Strategy Manager for the Division of Student Life

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What exactly is it would you say you do here?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 23, 2025 11:05 AM (JkO4W)

12 Beth Geer was appointed in 2023 by President Biden (or more likely by his handlers) ...

I did NOT see that coming.
/s

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

13 "When the health and safety of our communities, children and grandchildren are at stake,

it's always for "THE CHILDREN"...and then they enact policies that will kill everybody including THE CHILDREN

diabolical evil subhumans

Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2025 11:05 AM (dCxaZ)

14 Lots of people with more money than common sense.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)

15 "I believe that carbon pollution is a public health emergency," Geer said. "When the health and safety of our communities, children and grandchildren are at stake, we must act ... and we must move quicker to address the climate crisis."
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I literally don't understand how anyone could generate such a statement and deliver it with a straight face. I mean I would be cracking a grin the moment I hit the "...children and grandchildren..." part of it.

Why do we even pretend to listen to such nonsense, and why is it considered "ok" for people like this to sit in positions of authority?

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (TN0g+)

16 The national news aspect of the firing for me is: Presidents control the TVA?!

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (1q8GR)

17 Donald Trump flushing the climate communists out of the TVA is actual, real-life conservatism in action.

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You mean like, with, toilet paper?

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (mfM/h)

18 Dear Beth Hall Davis,

What have you done to stop the slow-motion genocide of the Uyghurs happening in China right now? What have you done about the slavery in Qatar, where over 1000 perished building the spiffy new World Cup stadium? And more close to home, where is your concern for the children who've been trafficked over our open Southern border for years, with apparently 300k unaccounted for/missing?

If you really cared about current day Holocausts, you'd think this would have crossed your radar.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (6o/o0)

19 Good post Buck - I've been following the cleansing of the TVA with interest as I too rely on them for power.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (cYBz/)

20 11 Content Strategy Manager for the Division of Student Life

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What exactly is it would you say you do here?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 23, 2025 11:05 AM (JkO4W)

Post social media content that has a lot of engagement.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (pZEOD)

21 16 The national news aspect of the firing for me is: Presidents control the TVA?!
Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (1q8GR)

Darn that FDR!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (uWKK8)

22 16 The national news aspect of the firing for me is: Presidents control the TVA?!
Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (1q8GR)

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The TVA is a government agency. Not even quasi-government. It's full government owned and operated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (GBKbO)

23 "Philanthopaths"

Perfection, Buck!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM

I liked that too...

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (jvJvP)

24 Beth Geer was appointed in 2023 by President Biden (or more likely by his handlers)

Otto von Penn.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:07 AM (1q8GR)

25 How did carbon become the biggest enemy to all mankind?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (svLOV)

26 25 How did carbon become the biggest enemy to all mankind?
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (svLOV)

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Soviet funding of the Sierra Club?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

27 Dan and Charlie et al are having the vapors over Donald Trump’s handling of Tik Tok, which violates some sacred penumbra of “true conservatism,” yet they were perfectly willing to let Biden and Kamala inflict the left’s decarbonization agenda on residents of the Tennessee Valley. If that is “principled conservatism,” please give me Donald Trump’s unprincipled version instead.

Kurt Schlichter has a good column on the need not to reflexively form a circular firing squad among people on our side who disagree in good faith. I agree strongly. Well, except for Harry Paratestes. That guy's got to go.
*kidding*

https://is.gd/MJAD8h

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

28 I just read "Shepherds for Sale, How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda" by Megan Bashan. She describes how left-wing groups, such as the Eli Lily Foundation, are pouring millions of dollars into "education" programs meant to influence Evangelical churches.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 11:09 AM (PiwSw)

29 The air crews that conducted Hammer Time are deserving of awards of course, maybe DFCs. I sure hope it's done in private out of an abundance of caution due to an overabundance of doxing assholes.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 23, 2025 11:09 AM (gm9Sb)

30 Philanthopaths"

Perfection, Buck!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM (6o/o0)

We have been privileged to be present at the Birth of a Meme...

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (PCK5/)

31 What's so bad about carbon?

Posted by: And stop putting women in charge at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (rqEUB)

32 Carbon is Carbon based life forms greatest enemy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (6iGXV)

33 Why do we even pretend to listen to such nonsense, and why is it considered "ok" for people like this to sit in positions of authority?
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (TN0g+)

Because CON, Inc refuses to fight it, and won't let anyone else fight it either.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (0eaVi)

34 Donald Trump flushing the climate communists out of the TVA is actual, real-life conservatism in action.

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You mean like, with, toilet paper?


I'm a green kind of guy. I'd settle for the three stones. Use them as intended, and then use them again to stone the climate communists.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)

35 31 What's so bad about carbon?
Posted by: And stop putting women in charge at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (rqEUB)

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Well, they believe that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will increase water vapor in the air which will increase global temperatures.

The belief that increased carbon dioxide leads to increased water vapor is unsupported by science.

It is a religious belief.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)

36 Beth you ignorant slu...person.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 11:11 AM (W/lyH)

37 Silicon better than Carbon is.

Posted by: The Horta at June 23, 2025 11:12 AM (PiwSw)

38 8
‘Beth Geer was appointed in 2023 by President Biden (or more likely by his handlers) ...’

Sounds like TN needs to switch geers.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 23, 2025 11:12 AM (jbnUc)

39 How did carbon become the biggest enemy to all mankind?
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (svLOV)

Because it's everywhere!! It's even... even... INSIDE YOU!!!!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 23, 2025 11:12 AM (0eaVi)

40 "Are you stepping into difficult conversations on the daily with people around you?"
____

I can't wait to have conversations with nitwits "on the daily". Please do this!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

41 She was one of those vicious cunts that ordered rolling blackouts of power in the middle of winter several years ago. I'm glad President Trump kicked her skank ass off the board.

No, I really don't like her.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 23, 2025 11:13 AM (5M/Mg)

42 I see that Dan and Charlie et al are having the vapors over Donald Trump’s handling of Tik Tok ...

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As an aside: I occasionally tune into local radio for Charlie Kirk's weekday podcast -- and find it somewhat disconcerting that he's advertising for TikTok, although TBF he's claiming that it was at least one vehicle that helped him garner so much support among young people to help elect 47.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:13 AM (jewxs)

43 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

44 Some executive level dipshit broad at Ford declared that "no one cares what's under the hood" and 'green' energy is still the primary focus.

Yeah, way to not pay attention to ANYTHING happening around you, stupid.

At the same time, Dodge apologized to their customers and brought the Hemi V8 back to thunderous applause.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

45 How did carbon become the biggest enemy to all mankind?
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (svLOV)

I thought dioxide was.

It's even got die in the name.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:15 AM (dGCAG)

46 BREAKING: The content strategy manager for UT Knoxville's division of student life said Trump's immigration enforcement is "identical to what happened in 1930s Germany" and compared it to "the Holocaust." pic.twitter.com/l4g9E3QECe

— Corey A. DeAngelis, school choice evangelist (@DeAngelisCorey) June 11, 2025


They said that if we elected Trump Jews would be murdered, and they were right!

Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 11:15 AM (jc0TO)

47 Anti-Carbonites?

Are they worse than anti-Dentites?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (sZI8v)

48
Question: How do you think the 35,000 police officers in NYC are going to act for a "mayor" who hates them?

I know NYPD has lots of Shits on the force, but most of them are normal people, and they have publicly defied their mayor (kaiser wilhelm) in the recent past.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (DCmYx)

49 48
Question: How do you think the 35,000 police officers in NYC are going to act for a "mayor" who hates them?

I know NYPD has lots of Shits on the force, but most of them are normal people, and they have publicly defied their mayor (kaiser wilhelm) in the recent past.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (DCmYx)

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Their last couple of mayors have hated them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (GBKbO)

50 The carbon they want to eliminate is you.

Posted by: toby928 reminds you at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (jc0TO)

51 What's so bad about carbon?
Posted by: And stop putting women in charge at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (rqEUB)

=====

Well, they believe that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will increase water vapor in the air which will increase global temperatures.

The belief that increased carbon dioxide leads to increased water vapor is unsupported by science.

It is a religious belief.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
________

For some. For others, I'm convinced they think carbon dioxide is itself a toxin, a poison. They don't know it's nothing but CO2 that's released by every animals' breath. They hear "carbon" and think it's some kind of metal or toxin. Notice that it's rarely called "CO2" in the doomsaying. It's always called the more exotic and sinister-sounding carbon dioxide.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

52 Content manager for student life. If there was ever a bullshit job this is it.

Shit like this is why college is expensive.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (/CkK4)

53 At the same time, Dodge apologized to their customers and brought the Hemi V8 back to thunderous applause.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:15 AM

When do CAFE standards disappear?

Posted by: I want a Hilux at June 23, 2025 11:17 AM (rqEUB)

54
Yes, "identical."

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:17 AM (DCmYx)

55 Environmental Wackos are made out of Carbon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:17 AM (6iGXV)

56 Question: How do you think the 35,000 police officers in NYC are going to act for a "mayor" who hates them?



Every mayor after Rudy has hated them.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 11:17 AM (/CkK4)

57 That is a lot of content.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (AOsQT)

58 I sure hope it's done in private out of an abundance of caution due to an overabundance of doxing assholes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas


Sadly, I can see that. And there are probably some people in our government that are drooling at the possibility of striking a blow for great justice in releasing their names.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (svLOV)

59 ======

Their last couple of mayors have hated them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (GBKbO)



They do what they have to to keep their precious pensions.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

60 As an aside: I occasionally tune into local radio for Charlie Kirk's weekday podcast -- and find it somewhat disconcerting that he's advertising for TikTok, although TBF he's claiming that it was at least one vehicle that helped him garner so much support among young people to help elect 47.
Posted by: ShainS


Wrong Charlie. He meant Charles E. Cooke, ESQ, PhD, Doctor in Fuckery and Accents.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (mlg/3)

61 51 For some. For others, I'm convinced they think carbon dioxide is itself a toxin, a poison. They don't know it's nothing but CO2 that's released by every animals' breath. They hear "carbon" and think it's some kind of metal or toxin. Notice that it's rarely called "CO2" in the doomsaying. It's always called the more exotic and sinister-sounding carbon dioxide.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

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I was going to note that almost none of the left know what CO2 is actually supposed to do, that water vapor connection (which doesn't exist).

They are the religious faithful who don't listen during readings or homilies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (GBKbO)

62 What is a 'Content Manager" and what is their salary?

It better be free room, board, and tuition.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (sZI8v)

63 It's always called the more exotic and sinister-sounding carbon dioxide.
___

Wait'll they hear about the dangers of dihyrogen monoxide!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (Dv3i1)

64 I'm a green kind of guy. I'd settle for the three stones. Use them as intended, and then use them again to stone the climate communists.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)

But how do you use the shells?

Asking for Sly Stallone.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (TJLr1)

65
When do CAFE standards disappear?
Posted by: I want a Hilux at June 23, 2025 11:17 AM (rqEUB)



One can dream.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

66 As an aside: I occasionally tune into local radio for Charlie Kirk's weekday podcast -- and find it somewhat disconcerting that he's advertising for TikTok, although TBF he's claiming that it was at least one vehicle that helped him garner so much support among young people to help elect 47.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:13 AM (jewxs)

I simply don't understand the obsession with TikTok as an app. The Chi Nah is stealing people's data?

Who? The people who use TikTok? Well... boomers don't use TikTok. So why do they care?

Everyone out in Califnornica already has all the boomer data it could possibly want. Why do they care about 19 year olds twerking and putting dog faces on each other's posts?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (dGCAG)

67 Beth Hall Davis and people like her are truly retarded. Talk about minimizing what the Nazis did to an extent that’s sickening. If she knows better and is just trying to stir things up it’s even worse

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (+kWhq)

68 You know what's carbon free? Nuclear.

But I am betting she wasn't for that for some reason.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (bss/y)

69 Wait'll they hear about the dangers of dihyrogen monoxide!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:18 AM (Dv3i1)


Ooooh!

Posted by: Brian Stelter at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (PiwSw)

70 There is not much difference between The Holy Order of Environmental Jihad and V'GER wanting to rid Earth of carbon units.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:20 AM (sZI8v)

71 I used to be plant food.

Posted by: Carbon Dioxide at June 23, 2025 11:20 AM (rqEUB)

72 66 I simply don't understand the obsession with TikTok as an app. The Chi Nah is stealing people's data?

Who? The people who use TikTok? Well... boomers don't use TikTok. So why do they care?

Everyone out in Califnornica already has all the boomer data it could possibly want. Why do they care about 19 year olds twerking and putting dog faces on each other's posts?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (dGCAG)

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Trump credits TikTok with his second election victory. He wants to save it.

So, he keeps extending the deadline in the hope someone American will pony up the right amount of cash to buy it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)

73 Because it's everywhere!! It's even... even... INSIDE YOU!!!!

Actually, that would be Elvis. Elvis is everywhere. Well, almost everywhere.

Posted by: Michael J. Fox at June 23, 2025 11:21 AM (Y+sVZ)

74 Otto Pilot > Otto von Penn

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:21 AM (sZI8v)

75 Actually, that would be Elvis. Elvis is everywhere. Well, almost everywhere.

Posted by: Michael J. Fox at June 23, 2025 11:21 AM (Y+sVZ)



And he needs boats.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

76 73 Because it's everywhere!! It's even... even... INSIDE YOU!!!!

Actually, that would be Elvis. Elvis is everywhere. Well, almost everywhere.
Posted by: Michael J. Fox at June 23, 2025 11:21 AM (Y+sVZ)

I don't swing that way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:22 AM (bss/y)

77 ... is publicly likening Donald Trump’s policies to the Holocaust, stating that, “the events happening in the US are identical to what happened in 1930s Germany.”

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Well, now I know they're lying because I was assured that #LiterallyHitler already killed all the Jews even before his first term began.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:22 AM (WK5C7)

78 I see the pre-printed signs are out already protesting the "war". Apparently some of the USAID money is still making it into the wrong hands. I also noticed the Answer Coalition is back in this one. It'd be a shame if someone looked more deeply into their funding--perhaps DataRepublican could do so?

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (TN0g+)

79 When do CAFE standards disappear?
Posted by: I want a Hilux at June 23, 2025 11:17 AM (rqEUB)

They're already gone.

Many a time I've been in a booth, trying to enjoy my coffee, when some douchebag with a bluetooth earpiece is having a loud conversation in the next booth, about his shitty business.

Go conduct business at the office, douchebag. If you're going to be out in public, sip your coffee in bitter silence, like the rest of us.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (dGCAG)

80 Up at GatewayPundit now....


Right-Wing Alliance in European Parliament Forms ‘Working Group’ To Investigate Commissioner Ursula von der Leyen’s Funding of NGOs To Push for Climate Alarmism

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (jvJvP)

81 Even Elvis in an invisible 7-11 with the cowgirl?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (sZI8v)

82 My social media girl just told me to stop posting things because I am not aligned with our new aesthetic. I am laughing right now for real. Not our aesthetic!

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (pZEOD)

83 And he needs boats.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

What does Elvis need with a starship?

Posted by: Cpt James T Kirk at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)

84 And he needs boats.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)


+1 for Mojo Nixon reference.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (PiwSw)

85 The Sudetenland is ours.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (6iGXV)

86 I was going to note that almost none of the left know what CO2 is actually supposed to do, that water vapor connection (which doesn't exist).

They are the religious faithful who don't listen during readings or homilies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_______

Ask them what percentage of the atmosphere it comprises, and get told .04 is "just your truth."

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (ITkJX)

87 Trump credits TikTok with his second election victory. He wants to save it.

So, he keeps extending the deadline in the hope someone American will pony up the right amount of cash to buy it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)

I keep trying to wrap my brain around what kind of adult humans would make their prez vote based on TikTok. I haven’t figured it out yet and I’m probably too old a curmudgeon to ever figure it out. I find it genuinely disturbing…. I mean funny cat videos fine; but serious stuff??!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (+kWhq)

88 Piper

Did you tell them "who's paying you?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:24 AM (sZI8v)

89 Trump credits TikTok with his second election victory. He wants to save it.

So, he keeps extending the deadline in the hope someone American will pony up the right amount of cash to buy it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)

Has he called Elon Musk? I hear he has money.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:24 AM (dGCAG)

90 82 My social media girl just told me to stop posting things because I am not aligned with our new aesthetic. I am laughing right now for real. Not our aesthetic!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (pZEOD)

Wait, you work told you to stop posting at AoS?

Straighten up guys, we're on candid stasi!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:24 AM (bss/y)

91
When does the DEF bullshit go away?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (DCmYx)

92 51 For some. For others, I'm convinced they think carbon dioxide is itself a toxin, a poison. They don't know it's nothing but CO2 that's released by every animals' breath. They hear "carbon" and think it's some kind of metal or toxin. Notice that it's rarely called "CO2" in the doomsaying. It's always called the more exotic and sinister-sounding carbon dioxide.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)
----
It's absolutely essential for food production, as well. Without CO2, plants die. No plants, no food.

It's as simple as that.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (7fElN)

93 First Greenland, and then we march into Alsace Loraine. MAGA!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (gm9Sb)

94 Doesn't TVA operate one of the few nuclear power plants in the U.S. So already "carbon free". Only someone who wanted a world where they imagine themselves an elite would want to replace working nuclear power with one of the 'green' energy sources like windmills or solar.

I like to say that the only green in green energy is the greenbacks from the grifting on the federal subsidies.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (bP/i4)

95 87 I keep trying to wrap my brain around what kind of adult humans would make their prez vote based on TikTok. I haven’t figured it out yet and I’m probably too old a curmudgeon to ever figure it out. I find it genuinely disturbing…. I mean funny cat videos fine; but serious stuff??!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (+kWhq)

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Eh.

People form beliefs from a wide variety of places. TikTok is the media delivery platform for a lot of young people. Fire memes on TikTok and such.

I dunno.

I'm just an ideologue who hates everyone, but I kind of get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

96 I simply don't understand the obsession with TikTok as an app. The Chi Nah is stealing people's data?

Who? The people who use TikTok? Well... boomers don't use TikTok. So why do they care?

Everyone out in Califnornica already has all the boomer data it could possibly want. Why do they care about 19 year olds twerking and putting dog faces on each other's posts?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (dGCAG)

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Trump credits TikTok with his second election victory. He wants to save it.

So, he keeps extending the deadline in the hope someone American will pony up the right amount of cash to buy it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
______

I'm not sure the "TikTok is spyware!" meme isn't just other social media platforms trying to undermine a competitor. That, plus a new market for anti-spyware apps. Of course TT "spies" on you. So does every SM platform ever made. It's part of their business model. They don't even hide it.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

97 I remember watching recruiting videos for colleges for my kids. It was crazy. Here is our brand new $100M gym we just built. And here is this brand new student activity center where you can chill out and relax in with state of the art TVs and media centers. And the dorms are all luxury condos. One of them had a rock climbing thing in the lobby.

And then bullshit jobs like content manager. Of which there are hundreds at every university.

Then people wonder why college costs what it does. Hmmm I wonder why? Must be evil capitalism or something.

I hear leftists talk about how it’s “free” in Europe. And it is. But there’s no $100M gym at any euro university. Dorms are spartan rooms. There’s no fluff. I’d love to have that here.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (/CkK4)

98 Being from the deep northeast and therefore being cut off from any news from the between coasts, I forget what a a central and important place Tennessee had and has in American life.
It's like I confuse it with Kentucky or something.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (n4GiU)

99 *Ursula von der Leyen*

Wasn't she in a Bond flick?

Posted by: Oh, no. Movie thread at June 23, 2025 11:26 AM (rqEUB)

100 When does the DEF bullshit go away?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (DCmYx)



Most diesel mechanics will tell you that's the dumbest shit ever devised.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

101 I was going to note that almost none of the left know what CO2 is actually supposed to do, that water vapor connection (which doesn't exist).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Water vapor connection does exist. A lot more influential. But not a thing to worry about.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:26 AM (mlg/3)

102 96 I'm not sure the "TikTok is spyware!" meme isn't just other social media platforms trying to undermine a competitor. That, plus a new market for anti-spyware apps. Of course TT "spies" on you. So does every SM platform ever made. It's part of their business model. They don't even hide it.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

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Internet privacy is a myth told by grandmothers to their grandchildren at bedtime to make them feel better about the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:26 AM (GBKbO)

103 Brawndo : It's what plants crave!

Posted by: From that famous Documentary at June 23, 2025 11:26 AM (PiwSw)

104 Any Billionaire Philanthropath who donates money to any political organization should be taxed at 99.9% and have to spend a night in the box.

Posted by: Carr, The Floor Walker at June 23, 2025 11:27 AM (PzyNU)

105 Onnatop, Strawberry Fields, Pussy Galore, Dr. Goodhead...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:27 AM (sZI8v)

106 82 My social media girl just told me to stop posting things because I am not aligned with our new aesthetic. I am laughing right now for real. Not our aesthetic!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (pZEOD)

Is AoS aligned with the aesthetic? You know… guns, puns and bewbs

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:27 AM (5MZNC)

107 Burning down all the parking garages is a great strategy. No place to park-you must ride the bus. Brilliant!!

Posted by: Know What MARTA Stands For? at June 23, 2025 11:27 AM (G5+As)

108 I keep trying to wrap my brain around what kind of adult humans would make their prez vote based on TikTok. I haven’t figured it out yet and I’m probably too old a curmudgeon to ever figure it out. I find it genuinely disturbing…. I mean funny cat videos fine; but serious stuff??!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (+kWhq)

I'm pretty sure, in addition to cat videos, what gets posted are videos being shared of people talking, and the person making the TikTok puts dog ears on the person talking in the video, makes faces and points at the person.

So if it's, say Cummala Harris talking, and the poster puts dog ears on Cummala, and makes faces, as if to say Cummala is stoopid, that's very influential on young voters.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:27 AM (dGCAG)

109 Cow Piss Diesel?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:27 AM (6iGXV)

110 I hear leftists talk about how it’s “free” in Europe. And it is. But there’s no $100M gym at any euro university. Dorms are spartan rooms. There’s no fluff. I’d love to have that here.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 11:25 AM (/CkK4)

For certain definitions of “free”.
Mostly the “cost is hidden because it’s being paid by the government that gets its money from you” definition.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (TJLr1)

111 82 My social media girl just told me to stop posting things because I am not aligned with our new aesthetic. I am laughing right now for real. Not our aesthetic!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (pZEOD)

Aren't you the owner?

Posted by: Reforger at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (LgDgc)

112 My social media girl just told me to stop posting things because I am not aligned with our new aesthetic. I am laughing right now for real. Not our aesthetic!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (pZEOD)

I know you're a lady, BUT, my favorite retort when I was on FB was FOAD. With a smiley face. Because I meant it in the nicest way, of course.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (5xuJ/)

113 90 82 My social media girl just told me to stop posting things because I am not aligned with our new aesthetic. I am laughing right now for real. Not our aesthetic!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (pZEOD)

Wait, you work told you to stop posting at AoS?

Straighten up guys, we're on candid stasi!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11

No, she told me to stop posting things on my business’s instagram because my rogue posts don’t match our new aesthetic that she has built. I do have to be honest, what she has done with my social media is outstanding, and my posts do legit look like I phoned it in, in comparison. And I had a pretty decent following, but it has grown over the last month since she took over. I told her I won’t post any more. I mean, I only own the place. lol.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (p4NUW)

114 Ban CO2 now, and get those Crossman pistols out of the hands of children!

The Pigeons

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (gm9Sb)

115 I love it.

MIGA by Airstrike: Israel Targets Tehran’s Grip on Power

Israeli strikes also hit intelligence and security police offices tied to internal surveillance and control.

According to the IDF, these sites are central to Iran’s military and regime enforcement apparatus. Damaging them weakens both their operational capability and internal grip on power.

You can find more reports today just like this one: "Several Basij officers were killed when a building at their eastern Tehran headquarters was completely leveled. These forces are tasked with suppressing dissent and enforcing regime control."

Basij serves as one of the regime's secret police forces.

Tehran's Evin Prison is — or rather was — a symbol of the regime's ruthlessness, just like the Bastille in pre-revolutionary France or Lefortovo prison in Moscow.

Now the front door stands wide open.


https://is.gd/EBpq8t

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

116 The issue with Tik Tok isn't the collection of data, it's the dissemination of propaganda.

That's the reason the brain rot is banned in China, and why they won't give up control over it.

Trump's just wrong on this one.

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2025 11:29 AM (Dnobf)

117 In a scenerio with no nuclear and no gas/oil/coal power the masses would be subsistence farming and the elites would have a lower standard of living than now but they would be lording it over a bunch of servants. I don't know if they crave that power if they are just so stupid they don't understand that even if you are that very upper tier that can afford servants life would still be much rougher than what we all get now with affordable energy to power heat and A/C and so on.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 23, 2025 11:29 AM (bP/i4)

118 For certain definitions of “free”.
Mostly the “cost is hidden because it’s being paid by the government that gets its money from you” definition.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (TJLr1)

Right. It’s why I put free in quotes.

But even so, the cost of running a university in Europe is a fraction of what it costs here. Whether students or the government pays for it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (/CkK4)

119 Most diesel mechanics will tell you that's the dumbest shit ever devised.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

Yep. For about a thousand reasons.

Posted by: Reforger at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (LgDgc)

120 The lithium battery fire burns so hot it does structural damage to the building? You don't say....

Posted by: Jihadi Flying Taxi Service at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (/NHpO)

121 117 In a scenerio with no nuclear and no gas/oil/coal power the masses would be subsistence farming and the elites would have a lower standard of living than now but they would be lording it over a bunch of servants. I don't know if they crave that power if they are just so stupid they don't understand that even if you are that very upper tier that can afford servants life would still be much rougher than what we all get now with affordable energy to power heat and A/C and so on.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 23, 2025 11:29 AM (bP/i4)

I’m sure the elites think it will be like the Capitol in the Hunger Games - all the lows working to produce their luxury.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (TJLr1)

122 I simply don't understand the obsession with TikTok as an app. The Chi Nah is stealing people's data?

Who? The people who use TikTok? Well... boomers don't use TikTok. So why do they care?

Everyone out in Califnornica already has all the boomer data it could possibly want. Why do they care about 19 year olds twerking and putting dog faces on each other's posts?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:19 AM (dGCAG)

------------------

Fair point, Burt.

Like you, I already assume that our own intelligence agencies have all kinds of data collected on each of us.

My only concern would be -- despite the ChiComms,, GloboHomo, and other anti-American fellow travelers pushing actual disinformation and propaganda via numerous other means (including of course our own MDM-MSM), the open sanctioning & promotion of a platform that happily admits it and corrupts the thinking of young people (similar to push-polling).

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (lzoMw)

123 So what is this about 16billion account passwords compromised?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:31 AM (sZI8v)

124 DEF is a piss-poor way to run a truck!!

Posted by: Urea! I've Found It! at June 23, 2025 11:31 AM (G5+As)

125 I'm not sure the "TikTok is spyware!" meme isn't just other social media platforms trying to undermine a competitor. That, plus a new market for anti-spyware apps. Of course TT "spies" on you. So does every SM platform ever made. It's part of their business model. They don't even hide it.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade


It could be, but the PRC does want to subjugate the US. Both can be true and only one warrants extreme measures.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:31 AM (mlg/3)

126 For certain definitions of “free”.
Mostly the “cost is hidden because it’s being paid by the government that gets its money from you” definition.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (TJLr1)

Yeah, for some strange reason, a lot of countries that get shedloads of American taxpayer money, give out "free" stuff to their citizens.

Weird.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:31 AM (dGCAG)

127 Oh noes. My anonymous Kroger account.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:32 AM (6iGXV)

128
Yep. For about a thousand reasons.
Posted by: Reforger at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (LgDgc)



Least of which being it will freeze in the winter and ruin the sensors rendering the vehicle useless as it goes into 'limp home mode' and rolls at 5 mph.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

129 The issue with Tik Tok isn't the collection of data, it's the dissemination of propaganda.
Posted by: Methos


As an adversary of the US, why wouldn't they do both?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (mlg/3)

130 incentivizing management to increase carbon free resources."

Gas tank empty? Throw in a dead rat and piss on it.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (MHoFz)

131 Israel needs to be targeting the Basij and IRCG out in the hinterlands, particularly Kurdistan. Let the Revolution work from the outside in.

Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (jc0TO)

132 I told her I won’t post any more. I mean, I only own the place. lol.
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 11:28 AM (p4NUW)

Piper, I get what you are saying, but who does she work for? THIS is why HR and bullshit destroys companies.

She can suggest what you can do to make the posts look better and more cohesive for the rest, but fucking telling you to stop posting as the owner and stay in the shadows while she is the fucking star is not a fucking option.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (bss/y)

133 So what is this about 16billion account passwords compromised?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:31 AM (sZI8v)
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Huh. 16 billion accounts all used "guest" as the password. Who knew?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (7fElN)

134 In a scenario with no nuclear and no gas/oil/coal power the masses would be subsistence farming and the elites

...would have nuclear power.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (Z1CX2)

135 Thx Buck. The only good thing about philanthropaths is that if the West did fall they would be among the first to be lined up against the wall and shot.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 11:34 AM (pwtJC)

136 Errr, what, now?

@disclosetv 2h
NEW - 1,500 injuries from violence at "music festival" in Paris: Over 100 women have been stabbed with syringes and poisoned.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:34 AM (mlg/3)

137 I didn't know that that triggered limp home mode. Even brand new Swedish trucks limp home sometimes.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (6iGXV)

138 Piper, I get what you are saying, but who does she work for? THIS is why HR and bullshit destroys companies.

She can suggest what you can do to make the posts look better and more cohesive for the rest, but fucking telling you to stop posting as the owner and stay in the shadows while she is the fucking star is not a fucking option.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (bss/y)
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Good point. She should be designing an aesthetic that meets PIPER'S style, not designing an aesthetic that matches her own style.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (7fElN)

139 133 So what is this about 16billion account passwords compromised?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:31 AM (sZI8v)
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Huh. 16 billion accounts all used "guest" as the password. Who knew?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 11:33 AM (7fElN)

“I need to change the combination on my luggage”

~ President Skroob

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (TJLr1)

140 My only concern would be -- despite the ChiComms,, GloboHomo, and other anti-American fellow travelers pushing actual disinformation and propaganda via numerous other means (including of course our own MDM-MSM), the open sanctioning & promotion of a platform that happily admits it and corrupts the thinking of young people (similar to push-polling).
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:30 AM (lzoMw)

I guess I just figure that cat's already out of the barn. We're not going to put the toothpaste back in the tuba.

Everything is brainwashing. I guess I can kinda understand why some people don't want Chi Nah doing it, but when it's our own oligarchs and the commies in media and academia, or the CIA, or... you know, lobby groups from other foreign countries, I don't really see the point of singling out Chi Nah and some stupid app.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (dGCAG)

141 Piper

Instead of capitulating, ask her on how to make your posts better.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (sZI8v)

142 Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words. With all of their noisy devotion to the age of science, their hysterically technological jargon, their cyclotrons, their sound rays, these men were moved forward, not by the image of an industrial skyline, but by the vision of that form of existence which the industrialists had swept away—the vision of a fat, unhygienic rajah of India, with vacant eyes staring in indolent stupor out of stagnant layers of flesh, with nothing to do but run precious gems through his fingers and, once in a while, stick a knife into the body of a starved, toil-dazed, germeaten creature, as a claim to a few grains of the creature's rice, then claim it from hundreds of millions of such creatures and thus let the rice grains gather into gems.

Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (jc0TO)

143 Password is the best password.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:36 AM (6iGXV)

144 Piper

Burn the place down, collect the insurance money, and fake your death.

Pop up in Brazil with a new identity and live like a queen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)

145 Public service announcement
Fill your bird baths, they will appreciate it

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 11:36 AM (+qU29)

146 Password is the best password.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:36 AM


54321

Doing it backwards stumps the bots.

Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:37 AM (jc0TO)

147 There is zero privacy on any smartphone. My every post here (and yours as well) is monitored by some software which probably archives based on keywords.

I’m convinced my phone listens to me. Sometimes I’ll say something to my wife and soon after some popup add on a webpage will match that topic. It’s uncanny and uncomfortable.

But what am I gonna do… not post my wisdom here?? Doesn’t seem like an option

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:37 AM (P/Wjn)

148 @disclosetv 2h
NEW - 1,500 injuries from violence at "music festival" in Paris: Over 100 women have been stabbed with syringes and poisoned.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:34 AM (mlg/3)

They were giving out free drugs??

Damn, now I wish I was there.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:37 AM (dGCAG)

149 In a scenerio with no nuclear and no gas/oil/coal power the masses would be subsistence farming and the elites would have a lower standard of living than now but they would be lording it over a bunch of servants. I don't know if they crave that power if they are just so stupid they don't understand that even if you are that very upper tier that can afford servants life would still be much rougher than what we all get now with affordable energy to power heat and A/C and so on.
Posted by: PaleRider


*Marie Antoinette has entered the chat.

Oh wait, no, she can't.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:38 AM (5WDkb)

150 Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words. With all of their noisy devotion to the age of science, their hysterically technological jargon, their cyclotrons, their sound rays, these men were moved forward, not by the image of an industrial skyline, but by the vision of that form of existence which the industrialists had swept away—the vision of a fat, unhygienic rajah of India, with vacant eyes staring in indolent stupor out of stagnant layers of flesh, with nothing to do but run precious gems through his fingers and, once in a while, stick a knife into the body of a starved, toil-dazed, germeaten creature, as a claim to a few grains of the creature's rice, then claim it from hundreds of millions of such creatures and thus let the rice grains gather into gems.
Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:35 AM (jc0TO)

WOAH! That's really heavy, man. Wanna toke?

Posted by: Tommy Chong at June 23, 2025 11:38 AM (5xuJ/)

151 136
‘ 1,500 injuries from violence at "music festival" in Paris: Over 100 women have been stabbed with syringes and poisoned.’

Migrant related?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 23, 2025 11:38 AM (jbnUc)

152 Man, 21 minutes waiting for a phone rep.....

Could be worse. My day did start with the cat Snowflake jumping on my chest while I was sleeping and sitting on my face....

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 11:38 AM (jvJvP)

153 But what am I gonna do… not post my wisdom here?? Doesn’t seem like an option
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:37 AM (P/Wjn)

Some things are too precious to give up on.

Heck, I figure my comments are being listened to by spies from everywhere, including our own government.

I believe there is an outside chance they might actually learn something.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (dGCAG)

154 Rumspringa. It's the Amish.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (6iGXV)

155 I’m convinced my phone listens to me. Sometimes I’ll say something to my wife and soon after some popup add on a webpage will match that topic. It’s uncanny and uncomfortable.

But what am I gonna do… not post my wisdom here?? Doesn’t seem like an option
Posted by: LinusVanPelt


What's scary is when you don't type or say anything. You just think it.

AND THEN IT POPS UP.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (5WDkb)

156 NEW - 1,500 injuries from violence at "music festival" in Paris: Over 100 women have been stabbed with syringes and poisoned.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 11:34 AM (mlg/3)


Wild and crazy Parisians, what you going do to keep the boys on the farm after seeing Paris?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (sZI8v)

157 BTW, are there any Philatelists among the Horde?

I got a weird stamp on an amazon package.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (W/lyH)

158 I told her I won’t post any more. I mean, I only own the place. lol.
Posted by: Piper


I like that, all told in good humor. "Umm, boss? I know I've only been here a week, but I think I've found the problem..."

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:40 AM (Wn+XB)

159 I'd like to see Trump set up a mass coal building plant initiative.

Power needs keep going up and up and we have essentially unlimited coal supplies.

Oh and it would drive the enviro weenies nuts.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 11:40 AM (t0Rmr)

160 Because the events happening in the US are identical to what happened in 1930s Germany

Yes, as everybody knows from their history books the Nazis were infamous for deporting gang members from Tren de Aragua and Haitians and Hondurans and Guatemalans, and Mexican cartel members because the Kaiser had let in millions of them before Hitler came to power and decided to Make Germany Great Again.

I'm honestly shocked how nobody hasn't noticed the obvious similarities before Beth Hall Davis had to point it out to all of us.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 11:40 AM (6ydKt)

161 Password is the best password.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:36 AM

54321

Doing it backwards stumps the bots.
Posted by: toby928


Ofd/even - 53142

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:40 AM (5WDkb)

162 Oh noes. My anonymous Kroger account.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:32 AM (6iGXV)

They learned I bought Cheetos. I hope they don't tell my doctor.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

163 Make West Virginia flat again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:41 AM (6iGXV)

164 Pa55w0rd

L33t sp33k FTW.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

165 What's scary is when you don't type or say anything. You just think it.

AND THEN IT POPS UP.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (5WDkb)

I’d swear that’s happened too! LoL

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:42 AM (WnEm5)

166 Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words.

I've seen that passage before, but can't remember the source. Please to enlighten.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)

167 Everything is Nazi this or Holocaust that

They are devaluing the horror to make cheap political points. They deserve everything that they wish to fall upon others.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (sZI8v)

168 8675309

Posted by: Jenny at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (rqEUB)

169 158 I told her I won’t post any more. I mean, I only own the place. lol.
Posted by: Piper

I like that, all told in good humor. "Umm, boss? I know I've only been here a week, but I think I've found the problem..."
Posted by: t-bird
======
FWIW, Authenticity on social media has consistently been ranked above look and feel of social media--warts and all.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (ctrM5)

170 I've seen that passage before, but can't remember the source. Please to enlighten.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:42 AM


Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (jc0TO)

171 Yes, your phone does listen.
The idea is to provide you with popup ads that may be something you are inclined to buy.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (W/lyH)

172 168 8675309
Posted by: Jenny at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (rqEUB)

Everyone already knows it. Stop being such a whore, Jenny.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (TJLr1)

173 151 136
‘ 1,500 injuries from violence at "music festival" in Paris: Over 100 women have been stabbed with syringes and poisoned.’

Migrant related?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Poisoned, like with mRNA vax? Check Bill Gates' whereabouts.

Seriously, why the west's leaders, other than a few exceptions like Trump and Orban, decided to murder their civilization by importing massive amounts of 3rd world military aged men, needs to be fully investigated.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:44 AM (Dv3i1)

174 She had thought that industrial production was a value not to be questioned by anyone; she had thought that these men's urge to expropriate the factories of others was their acknowledgment of the factories value. She,born of the industrial revolution, had not held as conceivable, had forgotten along with the tales of astrology and alchemy, what these men knew in their secret, furtive souls, knew not by means of thought, but by means of that nameless muck which they called their instincts and emotions: that so long as men struggle to stay alive, they'll never produce so little but that the man with the club won't be able to seize it and leave them still less, provided millions of them are willing to submit—that the harder their work and the less their gain, the more submissive the fiber of their spirit—that men who live by pulling levers at an electric switchboard, are not easily ruled, but men who live by digging the soil with their naked fingers, are—that the feudal baron did not need electronic factories in order to drink his brains away out of jeweled goblets, and neither did the rajahs of the People's State of India.

Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:44 AM (jc0TO)

175 What's scary is when you don't type or say anything. You just think it.

AND THEN IT POPS UP.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:39 AM (5WDkb)

I’d swear that’s happened too! LoL
Posted by: LinusVanPelt


That's happened more than once. I'll read something here, not even comment on it, just read someone's comment, open up DDG to loom it up, and there is is, a "recommendation". What the hell?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:44 AM (5WDkb)

176 162 Oh noes. My anonymous Kroger account.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:32 AM (6iGXV)

They learned I bought Cheetos. I hope they don't tell my doctor.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

This guy really likes bacon, someone get Soros on the phone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)

177 161 Password is the best password.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:36 AM

I got a bit paranoid a couple of years back.

I take the first 3 letters of the site now, convert that into numbers and then add my standard extension.

So AoS would be "010319@StandardExtension15@

Works well once you get used to it.

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 11:45 AM (jvJvP)

178 Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: toby928 muses


Thanks.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

179
Massie is such a stupid shithead -- he just put himself in the position of opposing tax cuts for the American working class and in strong support of Iran.

Smooth move, Ex-Lax.

I hate thomas massie.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:45 AM (DCmYx)

180 179
Massie is such a stupid shithead -- he just put himself in the position of opposing tax cuts for the American working class and in strong support of Iran.

Smooth move, Ex-Lax.

I hate thomas massie.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:45 AM (DCmYx)

======

Dude voted to raise the debt ceiling in 2023 under Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

181 Thomas Massie is the Yassir Arafat of the GOPe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (sZI8v)

182 I even have a fake default birthdate.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (6iGXV)

183 8675309
Posted by: Jenny at June 23, 2025 11:43 AM (rqEUB)

I can beat that.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (Dnobf)

184
Mr fucking Principles massie

give me a break

principles, my ass

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (DCmYx)

185 This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: men's urge to expropriate the factories of others at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (rqEUB)

186 My problem is not coming up with and remembering good passwords- it's remembering which good password or variation of those passwords goes with which thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (bss/y)

187 The phone thing happens a lot more on Mrs D's phone than mine.
Why?
She keeps hers out and mine is usually in my pocket.
And she won't shut the hell up...but that's another story.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 11:47 AM (W/lyH)

188 184
Mr fucking Principles massie

give me a break

principles, my ass
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:46 AM (DCmYx)

======

Don't worry.

He's going to easily win his primary and re-election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

189 186 My problem is not coming up with and remembering good passwords- it's remembering which good password or variation of those passwords goes with which thing.
____

I write them on sticky notes and paste them to the monitor.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:47 AM (Dv3i1)

190 That's happened more than once. I'll read something here, not even comment on it, just read someone's comment, open up DDG to loom it up, and there is is, a "recommendation". What the hell?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:44 AM (5WDkb)

I think future AI has generated T-1000 terminators and they’re now here messing with our web traffic and our heads

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (P/Wjn)

191 Don't worry.

He's going to easily win his primary and re-election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

If so don't put him on any committees.. Put him on latrine duty

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (VE6XX)

192 American woke white women are _______

Fill in the blank

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (VofaG)

193 ... billionaire "philanthropaths" who are using their fortunes (which are often inherited) to undermine the structures of western civilization.

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A nice turn of phrase, Buck -- and stolen -- along with one of my faves: "psychopathocracy."

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (iPmRO)

194 173
‘ why the west's leaders, other than a few exceptions like Trump and Orban, decided to murder their civilization’

Angela Markel may end up moving up from number 2 as the most destructive German chancellor ever.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (jbnUc)

195 Don't worry.

He's going to easily win his primary and re-election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

Are you suggesting there are actual, you know, Republican voters who don't automatically take Trump's word when he calls someone a poopy head?

Does Fox Nooz know this?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

196 Was talking one day about funerals, none happened around that time, never looked anything up on it and a ad popped up right after about funerals

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (+qU29)

197 155 I’m convinced my phone listens to me. Sometimes I’ll say something to my wife and soon after some popup add on a webpage will match that topic. It’s uncanny and uncomfortable.

But what am I gonna do… not post my wisdom here?? Doesn’t seem like an option
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

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Don't forget your smart tv or if you are sloppy about permissions, other things like computer cameras with microphones, etc.

That being said, it is relatively easy to 'dirty' your algorithm feed by giving misleading answers to customer surveys, randomly searching via web browsers, and by not using spyware like Microsoft 11 and/or shutting down Copilot and the idiotic default saving to clouds (it is installing on Windows 10 now as an update to convince Windows 10 users to migrate to Windows 11 I guess).

Some email providers also allow the customer to create alias emails where required by websites that can further dirty your algorithmic feed.

Then, there are services like Optery, Privacy Bee, and Aura among others that seek out private data brokers and kill your information being shared out and sold.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 11:49 AM (ctrM5)

198 I've got one password that some systems says is too strong.

Those places get the stink eye.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:49 AM (sZI8v)

199 It's Merkel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:49 AM (6iGXV)

200 Thomas Massie looked like he’d crawled out of the movie Deliverance yesterday on TV, but threw on a wrinkled suit

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:49 AM (P/Wjn)

201 i still can't decide if i like the shit pebbles or the runny shit more
theyre both so delicious

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 23, 2025 11:50 AM (Cxmyo)

202 192 American woke white women are _______

the biggest threat to western civilization.

Posted by: Obvious Truths for $400, Alex at June 23, 2025 11:50 AM (rqEUB)

203 195 Don't worry.

He's going to easily win his primary and re-election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

Are you suggesting there are actual, you know, Republican voters who don't automatically take Trump's word when he calls someone a poopy head?

Does Fox Nooz know this?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

Meh, primaries are really inconvenient. It’s a lot of work to figure out who’s running, and we’ve already got plans for that day. I’ll vote in the general election.

~ Every GOP voter

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 23, 2025 11:50 AM (TJLr1)

204 If so don't put him on any committees.. Put him on latrine duty
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (VE6XX)

If people think he's so wrong about everything, why try to silence him?

Shouldn't the strength of your arguments be enough?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)

205
Google SEES what We type Here.

It's no coincidence your Youtube page will recommend videos based on things we discuss here.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:51 AM (DCmYx)

206 A casket? Thats the last thing I'll need.

Posted by: Just the punchline at June 23, 2025 11:51 AM (rqEUB)

207 204 If people think he's so wrong about everything, why try to silence him?

Shouldn't the strength of your arguments be enough?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)

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I just think a Congressman who voted to increase the debt ceiling under Biden and then decided it was his principle to oppose the raising of the debt ceiling under Trump isn't actually very principled.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

208 You can trust the undertaker. He will be the last one to let you down.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 11:53 AM (6iGXV)

209 Regarding the invitation Retarded Joe Biden gave the border crossers and the ME situation I have one word of advice to fellow 'rons. Carry.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 23, 2025 11:53 AM (gm9Sb)

210 Massie's stupidity should have negative consequences for him.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:53 AM (sZI8v)

211 199
‘ It's Merkel.’
Misprint. Literally, the first mistake I’ve made in weeks.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 23, 2025 11:53 AM (jbnUc)

212
Pretty stupid to argue FOR massie. Why do you like that asswipe so much you want to give Your Friends here shit about it?

Massie don't give no shits about You, Burt.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:54 AM (DCmYx)

213 It's no coincidence your Youtube page will recommend videos based on things we discuss here.
Posted by: Soothsayer


Appalachia, bluegrass, black powder & bbq. Y'all need to catch up.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 11:54 AM (5WDkb)

214 I just think a Congressman who voted to increase the debt ceiling under Biden and then decided it was his principle to oppose the raising of the debt ceiling under Trump isn't actually very principled.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

I wonder how many Republicans voted against raising it under Biden, but are all for it under Trump.

If you're looking for consistent principles in Congress, you'd be better off going down to your local crack den and looking for them there.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:54 AM (dGCAG)

215 The people spouting off about literally Hitler! continue to demonstrate how little they know about German under NAZI rule.

They seriously believe it was be safe to protest and get in the face of the SS as the SS rounded up Jews in 1942 Germany?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (tT6L1)

216 Brown shoes with blue suits.

Posted by: Don't forget at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (rqEUB)

217 Kentucky has been far too powerful in screwing up the GOP. They have it surrounded from all sides.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (VofaG)

218 205
Google SEES what We type Here.

It's no coincidence your Youtube page will recommend videos based on things we discuss here.
Posted by: Soothsayer

That certainly explains all the videos with large breasted women reciting limericks while fishing.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (Dv3i1)

219 How many morons are using Mando and Dude Wipes? My feeling on Dude Wipes is it would be best to take shower.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (FmapG)

220 How did carbon become the biggest enemy to all mankind?
Posted by: NR Pax


Out: Car Bons
In: Car Bombs (disclaimer: only when we do it-the left)

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (yC5D1)

221 Tom Brady won $1M over the weekend in some silly competition. The rich get richer folks

He donated it all to charity but still… I’d like some charity!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 11:56 AM (/iXAp)

222 Pretty stupid to argue FOR massie. Why do you like that asswipe so much you want to give Your Friends here shit about it?

Massie don't give no shits about You, Burt.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 11:54 AM (DCmYx)

I take it easy on you, Sooth, because... well, I just do.

I don't expect anyone on Congress to care about me. I don't expect YOU to care about me. Caring about me is not what I look for in strangers.

But I'd take Massie as a Congresscritter over 90% of the rest of the R's in that shithole chamber.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (dGCAG)

223 213 It's no coincidence your Youtube page will recommend videos based on things we discuss here.
Posted by: Soothsayer

So Boobs....?

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (jvJvP)

224 The people spouting off about literally Hitler! continue to demonstrate how little they know about German under NAZI rule.

They seriously believe it was be safe to protest and get in the face of the SS as the SS rounded up Jews in 1942 Germany?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (tT6L1)

How many Jews did the Nazis deport?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (kTd/k)

225 That certainly explains all the videos with large breasted women reciting limericks while fishing.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (Dv3i1)
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One of the youtube videos I got was a cute Southern gal putting out boxes of ammo and talking about her stocked fishing pond...her way of baiting a trap for a man.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (tT6L1)

226 A gift has been given in your name to The Human Fund.

Posted by: Tom Brady at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (rqEUB)

227
Don't forget your smart tv or if you are sloppy about permissions, other things like computer cameras with microphones, etc.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 11:49 AM


we speak enough spanglish at Casa de AltonJackson that the roku tv serves up ads in spanish most of the time some times

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (tljrc)

228 Aetius

After watching Kirsche last night, should I get into VTubing? And what should I ramble about?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (sZI8v)

229 Are Democrats happy that ICE news has been pushed to the back of the bus ?

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (RHGPo)

230 214 I wonder how many Republicans voted against raising it under Biden, but are all for it under Trump.

If you're looking for consistent principles in Congress, you'd be better off going down to your local crack den and looking for them there.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:54 AM (dGCAG)

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Ah, but he's held up as the principled one.

If he's going to be a charlatan, might as well be a charlatan who supports things I like.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

231 Don't worry.

He's going to easily win his primary and re-election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Depends on challengers, the district demo, etc. The problem for Massie is if Trump causes a well heeled challenger to enter the race. Justin Amash during Trump's first term FAFO and lost his seat because of it.

Open Borders, tax hikes, not attacking clear and present dangers like Iran's nuclear program, and other pseudo libertarian might play well with the NR crowd but not necessarily with ex-urban Lexington , Cincinnati, and Louisville voters.

An iconoclast like Walter Jones in NC can manage to stay in office for awhile because he focused his maverick image on opposing Bush's nationbuilding idiocy and he was a former military officer.

But being an maverick in all things and a PITA for House leadership plus the Presidency on must pass legislation rarely leads to good things for the person unwise enough to challenge. Even the original Maverick McCain was not stupid enough to oppose tax cuts during Trump's first term for example.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (ctrM5)

232 There is a hara ter in atlas shrugged named Ma Barker or something who gets the ear of Congress and con inces them that feeding the country on soybeans is the way to go and they start plowing under all the crops to make way for the new better way. But it all fails and people starve.

Why do allnthese ecowarriors sound just like that.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (OA79/)

233 Hey, Buck. I live in Tennessee, too, and like you, I've seen a LOT of fake 'Republicans' in office, doing their Termite Thing.

Around here, people with leftwing ideas run for office as independents, or more often, as liars who claim to be conservative as long as it takes to get elected, then get in there and start chewing the support beams. So our Republican "super-majority" in the legislature is somewhat illusory.

Brandon Lewis runs a great newsletter, Tennessee Conservative, that tracks all this. Free to subscribe, and donations appreciated. https://tennesseeconservativenews.com/

Posted by: Beverly at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (Epeb0)

234 most of the time some times
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (tljrc)

Great band name

Most of the Time , Sometimes

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)

235 How many morons are using Mando and Dude Wipes? My feeling on Dude Wipes is it would be best to take shower.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 11:55 AM (FmapG)

I'm pretty sure Dude Wipes are owned by Chi Nah, and they use them to collect DNA.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (dGCAG)

236 Protest in Nazi Germany?

The fate of the White Rose if you were lucky. Or the concentration camps if you weren't.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:59 AM (sZI8v)

237 There is a hara ter in atlas shrugged named Ma Barker or something who gets the ear of Congress and con inces them that feeding the country on soybeans is the way to go and they start plowing under all the crops to make way for the new better way. But it all fails and people starve.

Why do allnthese ecowarriors sound just like that.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM


Kip Chalmer's Mom.

Posted by: toby928 muses at June 23, 2025 11:59 AM (jc0TO)

238 Also, Nashville is to Tennessee as Asheville is to North Carolina. (Wretched hive of scum and villainy, etc.)

Posted by: Beverly at June 23, 2025 11:59 AM (Epeb0)

239 How many Jews did the Nazis deport?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 11:57 AM (kTd/k)
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Well, they were eventually deported off the face of the earth, I guess.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:00 PM (tT6L1)

240 How many Jews publicly called for Hitler to be assassinated?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 23, 2025 12:00 PM (kTd/k)

241 High noon, oh I'd sell my soul for water ...

Posted by: zombie Ronnie James Dio at June 23, 2025 12:00 PM (icg0u)

242 They're all in the pay of Big Asswipe.

Posted by: And we all know it at June 23, 2025 12:00 PM (rqEUB)

243 we speak enough spanglish at Casa de AltonJackson that the roku tv serves up ads in spanish most of the time some times
Posted by: AltonJackson
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That alone should muddy your profile a bit LOL.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5)

244 Also, Nashville is to Tennessee as Asheville is to North Carolina. (Wretched hive of scum and villainy, etc.)
Posted by: Beverly at June 23, 2025 11:59 AM (Epeb0)

Every red state has one of those cities.

Even Oklahoma. Looking at you Tulsa.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:01 PM (VofaG)

245 American woke white women are _______

Fill in the blank

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (VofaG)

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Filled with inner-blank.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:01 PM (Mnxvs)

246 What is a 'Content Manager" and what is their salary?


$20, same as in town.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 12:02 PM (yC5D1)

247 How many morons are using Mando and Dude Wipes? My feeling on Dude Wipes is it would be best to take shower.
Posted by: pudinhead


F'n dude wipes are like single ply. Way too thin.

Prefer Dollar Shave Club's. Besides, they finish them with peppermint. Gives the taint a tingle.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 12:02 PM (5WDkb)

248 Is this about me?

Posted by: Charlottesville at June 23, 2025 12:02 PM (rqEUB)

249 Every red state has one of those cities.

Even Oklahoma. Looking at you Tulsa.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:01 PM (VofaG)
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Oh heck yeah. Remove Phoenix and Maricopa county from AZ and AZ is deep red.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:02 PM (tT6L1)

250 Ah, but he's held up as the principled one.

If he's going to be a charlatan, might as well be a charlatan who supports things I like.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

Held up by who?

You seem to be convinced that one vote proves he doesn't have principles. I would suggest Congress is designed to keep principles out of the mix.

Everyone... and I mean EVERYONE who goes to Congress is forced, one way or another, to vote for something they don't really believe in. The problem might not be the principles, or lack thereof, of the individuals in office (although for many I'm sure it is), but the problem might be the institution itself.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:03 PM (dGCAG)

251 Thanks for the link Beverly!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 12:03 PM (cYBz/)

252 Oh, boy just got a news story that "they" are worried Trump is gonna reinstate the draft...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:03 PM (VE6XX)

253 American woke white women are _______

Fill in the blank

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 11:48 AM (VofaG)

I am always ready to, how you say, fill in the blank on any women anywhere

Posted by: The Paolo at June 23, 2025 12:04 PM (/iXAp)

254 Oh, boy just got a news story that "they" are worried Trump is gonna reinstate the draft...

Everything old is new again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:04 PM (sZI8v)

255
It's one thing to oppose Our Favorite President(tm), but this fucknozzle Massie goes on CNN & MSNBC to do it.

He's a real piece of feces, that one.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:04 PM (DCmYx)

256 Content Strategy Manager for the Division of Student Life

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What exactly is it would you say you do here?
Posted by: Cicero


Watch sweaty shirtless frat boys playing volleyball, mostly.

Posted by: The CSMDSL at June 23, 2025 12:05 PM (R6gCX)

257 Even Elvis in an invisible 7-11 with the cowgirl?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:23 AM (sZI8v)

A naked cowgirl even. Deep cut. Nice!

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 12:05 PM (yC5D1)

258 250 Held up by who?

You seem to be convinced that one vote proves he doesn't have principles. I would suggest Congress is designed to keep principles out of the mix.

Everyone... and I mean EVERYONE who goes to Congress is forced, one way or another, to vote for something they don't really believe in. The problem might not be the principles, or lack thereof, of the individuals in office (although for many I'm sure it is), but the problem might be the institution itself.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:03 PM (dGCAG)

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I think it's more likely that Massie is a far-left progressive who uses small government rhetoric to justify his votes.

He votes for raising the debt ceiling under Biden because he will throw himself before the train of big government spending under Trump?

Seriously. Guy has no principles if you think he's a small government conservative.

He's an attention seeking whore and little else.

If he were actually consistent, it'd make sense. But he's not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

259 That dyed green hair should be good camo.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 12:05 PM (6iGXV)

260 You seem to be convinced that one vote proves he doesn't have principles. I would suggest Congress is designed to keep principles out of the mix.

Everyone... and I mean EVERYONE who goes to Congress is forced, one way or another, to vote for something they don't really believe in. The problem might not be the principles, or lack thereof, of the individuals in office (although for many I'm sure it is), but the problem might be the institution itself.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:03 PM (dGCAG)

The BBB vote by Massie doesn't bother me.. It's the bill he's backing with the Dems about Trump war powers then his criticism after the Iran strikes.. That did it for me...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:06 PM (VE6XX)

261 They seriously believe it was be safe to protest and get in the face of the SS as the SS rounded up Jews in 1942 Germany?

They're the main characters so plot armor will protect them from going to the camps.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 12:06 PM (svLOV)

262 He's a real piece of feces, that one.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:04 PM (DCmYx)
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I believe President Trump called out Massie over the weekend and made it very clear Massie will be primaried. I think President Trump said he will be campaigning with/for Massie's opponent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:06 PM (tT6L1)

263 Google SEES what We type Here.

It's no coincidence your Youtube page will recommend videos based on things we discuss here.
Posted by: Soothsayer
***


( . ) ( . )

Waits patiently...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (W/lyH)

264
Disagreement is fine. But siding with our Enemies is crossing the line.

Massie joined our enemies. He's garbage.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (DCmYx)

265 238 Also, Nashville is to Tennessee as Asheville is to North Carolina. (Wretched hive of scum and villainy, etc.)
Posted by: Beverly
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The problem ultimately with subsidizing and enabling massive commercial investments is that the locust cloud people descend on your locality/state. These are people in it because they get paid, not because they particularly care about a state or locality. So they flock to the hot spots wherever globo homo alights for awhile as 'hot' areas.

Seen this happen over and over again--when the 'hot' area cools off, then inevitably the locust people fly away to the latest 'hot' spot.

Local and state governments are never satisfied subsidizing and supporting the indigenous local businesses in growing in place. Instead, for publicity and grifting purposes, they are always on the lookout for the mega corps that inevitably love the locality and then leave it.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5)

266 192 American woke white women are _______
the biggest threat to western civilization.
Posted by: Obvious Truths for $400, Alex at June 23, 2025 11:50 AM (rqEUB)

Your words are hurtful and why aren't you wearing your masks!

Unclean!

Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and busybody at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (PzyNU)

267 They're the main characters so plot armor will protect them from going to the camps.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 12:06 PM (svLOV)
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I sort of assume rifle butts to the face, maybe followed by 8mm Mauser.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:09 PM (tT6L1)

268 260
‘ The BBB vote by Massie doesn't bother me.. It's the bill he's backing with the Dems about Trump war powers’

He’s an Adam Kinzinger in the making.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 23, 2025 12:09 PM (jbnUc)

269 Thomas Massie is a man of very strong principles. His principle is always to himself.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

270 I see that where the media lowers itself to discuss the church shooter, he is described as a white, racist, religious fanatic. I smell bullshit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:10 PM (L/fGl)

271 269 Thomas Massie is a man of very strong principles. His principle is always to himself.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

I'd like to see any recent bank account deposits...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:10 PM (VE6XX)

272 It's ridiculous how much Microsoft is determined to get me to use OneDrive.

I don't install it at setup.
They make you click No at least three times.

Then, with every major update to Windows it'll ask you again, and make you click NO two or three times.

Then, at least two times a year it'll pop up out of nowhere one morning after you boot up the computer to ask you again to use OneDrive and make you say NO two or three times.

If Microsoft was a man they'd be registered as a sexual offender by now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:10 PM (6ydKt)

273 Google SEES what We type Here.

It's no coincidence your Youtube page will recommend videos based on things we discuss here.
Posted by: Soothsayer
***


( . ) ( . )

Waits patiently...
Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (W/lyH)
___________

The homos at YT may think that's two men's assholes ....

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

274 I see that where the media lowers itself to discuss the church shooter, he is described as a white, racist, religious fanatic. I smell bullshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:10 PM (L/fGl)

Was it a black satanic church ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:11 PM (VofaG)

275 The BBB vote by Massie doesn't bother me.. It's the bill he's backing with the Dems about Trump war powers then his criticism after the Iran strikes.. That did it for me...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:06 PM (VE6XX)

Back in the day, everyone thought Presidents were supposed to go to Congress to get approval for military action.

And they've done polls showing the vast majority of Trump voters don't want America involved in a war with Iran.

It's entirely possible the AoSHQ does NOT represent the views of most Trump voters, and it's possible there are people doing the exact opposite of you: They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (dGCAG)

276 Was it a black satanic church ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:11 PM (VofaG)

Actually the pictures I've seen shows a primarily white church so....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (VE6XX)

277 Thomas Massie is a man of very strong principles. His principle is always to himself.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

I'd like to see any recent bank account deposits...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:10 PM (VE6XX)
__

Bank account, champagne cocktail parties, etc. He can almost always be counted on to do whatever will most get him celebrated in the WaPoo.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

278 They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (dGCAG)

We shall see....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:13 PM (VE6XX)

279 275 And they've done polls showing the vast majority of Trump voters don't want America involved in a war with Iran.

It's entirely possible the AoSHQ does NOT represent the views of most Trump voters, and it's possible there are people doing the exact opposite of you: They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (dGCAG)

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Anyone paying attention to politics over their lives would know that this isn't going to happen.

A pinpoint strike is much more likely to switch people's views on the topic because of base partisanship more than turn them against Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

280 273 — Elric, no please it’s lunchtime!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 12:14 PM (YobFY)

281 I think it's more likely that Massie is a far-left progressive who uses small government rhetoric to justify his votes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

Ok, now that's just silly.

I think it's time for me to get back to work.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:14 PM (dGCAG)

282 ( . ) ( . )

Waits patiently...
Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (W/lyH)
___________

The homos at YT may think that's two men's assholes ....
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
***

Dude...
Talk about harshing my mellow!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:14 PM (W/lyH)

283 It's entirely possible the AoSHQ does NOT represent the views of most Trump voters, and it's possible there are people doing the exact opposite of you: They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM


Or not.

Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 12:14 PM (jc0TO)

284 281 Ok, now that's just silly.

I think it's time for me to get back to work.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:14 PM (dGCAG)

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His voting record suggests much more likely that he's a progressive than he's a small government conservative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

285 Yet the only mask weaters I see around all seem to be Black females

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (+qU29)

286 If Trump puts boots on the ground it will bother his voters. Bombing no.

Of course we'd already have the draft going and boys going to Ukraine if Harris had won.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (t0Rmr)

287 Massie, Paul and McConnell have all been a thorn in the side of the GOP at one time or another. Some more than others. What's sadly funny is their opposition all comes from different viewpoints.

But the power they yield far exceeds the electoral importance of the state they come from.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (VofaG)

288 Back in the day, everyone thought Presidents were supposed to go to Congress to get approval for military action.

And they've done polls showing the vast majority of Trump voters don't want America involved in a war with Iran.

It's entirely possible the AoSHQ does NOT represent the views of most Trump voters, and it's possible there are people doing the exact opposite of you: They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.
Posted by: BurtTC


They're as full of shit as a Christmas goose.

Obama dropped bombs but didn't declare war:

Libya 2011
Pakistan 2009 - 2016
Yemen 2009 - 2016
Somalia 2009 - 2016
Iraq & Syria 2014 & 2016

What's different?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (5WDkb)

289 They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.

And therefore AOC and Jasmine Crockett and Talib...

If so we are screwed...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (VE6XX)

290 You seem to be convinced that one vote proves he doesn't have principles.

Has anyone in Congress questioned the authenticity of their own election results? There's your bedrock.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (KK3FL)

291 286 If Trump puts boots on the ground it will bother his voters. Bombing no.

Of course we'd already have the draft going and boys going to Ukraine if Harris had won.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (t0Rmr)

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Trump killed an Iranian general in his first term by drone strike.

His base didn't abandon him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)

292 My latest piece at The Blaze has been published, “Meet the ‘philanthropaths’ spending billions to kill the American dream.” It discusses the existential threat we face from sociopathic billionaires (“philanthropaths” who are using their fortunes as a weapon to tear down western civilization.

——-

Unfortunately that describes about 95% of billionaires. Maybe the slavish devotion the Right (including many morons here) has towards “protecting” billionaires isn’t a good thing.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (Vh9CX)

293 My thinking is they are biggest Kool-aid drinkers

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (+qU29)

294 Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (dGCAG)


Burt I’ve been with on not intervening in Iran but this is silly.

Thomas Massie is a gigantic faggot.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (eZwyX)

295 I saw Plot Armor open for the B-52's at The Limit in '79.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (QCCit)

296 ( . ) ( . )

Waits patiently...
Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:07 PM (W/lyH)
___________

The homos at YT may think that's two men's assholes ....
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

***

Checks email.
Oh Hell. Not opening that one!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

297 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (Vh9CX)


Correct.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:17 PM (eZwyX)

298 It's entirely possible the AoSHQ does NOT represent the views of most Trump voters, and it's possible there are people doing the exact opposite of you: They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (dGCAG)

Personally I think this is much more like taking out Solemaini in the first term. Took out a bad guy and did not lead to escalation. If I thought this was headed to all out war for us id probably oppose but I just don’t see that happening. I don’t think I’m playing semantical games to say dropping some bombs is not going to war

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 12:17 PM (YobFY)

299 285 Yet the only mask weaters I see around all seem to be Black females
Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM


Stay in your lane.

Posted by: Asian females at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (rqEUB)

300 Yet the only mask weaters I see around all seem to be Black females
Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (+qU29)

I see more Asian. I think it's in their blood. About the same between black and white for me though it's rare I see it for either. Makes a difference I guess I live in a county that vote 75% for Trump.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (VofaG)

301 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 12:17 PM (YobFY)

Trump is now calling for regime change. From some of things I’ve read it sounds like we’re gearing up for full war.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (eZwyX)

302 Trump killed an Iranian general in his first term by drone strike.

His base didn't abandon him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Increased his vote total in 2020, did he not?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (tT6L1)

303 Obama dropped bombs but didn't declare war:

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* Bubba Clinton has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (QCCit)

304
It appears, or, I suspect, Israel to do ALL the "mopping up."

Our part is done, I believe.

We'll be moving on to the next bullshit-outrage event in 3, 2,...

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:19 PM (DCmYx)

305 TVA stopped construction of the Bellefonte Nuclear power plant in Alabama because of Three Mile Island Nuclear power plant accident. They had already spent $6 billion on Bellefonte and just abandoned it. What a waste of (tax) money.

Posted by: Case at June 23, 2025 12:19 PM (ilX37)

306 Trump sent over a few dozen bombs and missiles all in a matter of about 20 minutes.

I wouldn't be getting my panties in a bunch over that just yet.

But they do.
Because it's always about Trump and they'll always find a reason to oppose anything he does.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (6ydKt)

307 Trump is now calling for regime change. From some of things I’ve read it sounds like we’re gearing up for full war.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (eZwyX)

I’m thinking MIGA was classic Trump trolling

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (YobFY)

308
No.

President Trump's is calling on the Iranians to MIGA.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (DCmYx)

309 If Trump puts boots on the ground it will bother his voters. Bombing no.

Of course we'd already have the draft going and boys going to Ukraine if Harris had won.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (t0Rmr)

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Trump killed an Iranian general in his first term by drone strike.

His base didn't abandon him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Iran is just the same as every other thing Trump ever did: it's just a focal point for those who want to see him fail. The same people shitting their pants over B2s over Iran would have cheered Biden bombing Russia. Hell, they did cheer Obama bombing practically every country in the middle east, including fucking nuclear (maybe) Pakistan.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

310 I don’t think I’m playing semantical games to say dropping some bombs is not going to war

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 12:17 PM (YobFY)

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Trump ended a couple of wars in his first term mostly by dropping bombs and not going to war.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (QCCit)

311 Obama dropped bombs but didn't declare war:

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* Bubba Clinton has entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:18 PM (QCCit)

***

That assh*le!!!

Posted by: Achmed, President of Achmed Aspirin Factories LTD at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (W/lyH)

312 Massie, Paul and McConnell have all been a thorn in the side of the GOP at one time or another. Some more than others. What's sadly funny is their opposition all comes from different viewpoints.

But the power they yield far exceeds the electoral importance of the state they come from.
Posted by: polynikes
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Hal Rogers is the longest serving Republican in congress, and runs a machine in southern KY, having brought in huge amounts of pork when he was chairman of appropriations. Everything is named for him. The Daniel Boone parkway was even remaned for him.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (ITkJX)

313 His voting record suggests much more likely that he's a progressive than he's a small government conservative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Massie and Paul for that matter are loosely connected with the the Koch network which interlocks with the Chamber of Commerce front man Mitch McConnell. Massie's wife recently died and he has taken up dating Christine Pshaw who was a former DeSantis operative and a fervent supporter of Ukraine war funding.

Lots of wheels within wheels when you are dealing with connections on the GOP side just as the Dems have their own.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)

314 Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:19 PM (DCmYx)

This is what I’m hoping for at this point.

However it’s strange that the Iranians said they moved their uranium before the strikes and the Israelis did nothing.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (eZwyX)

315 Have a dentist appointment later so will be late for work. But makes me wonder we haven't see NGU around much

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (+qU29)

316 314 This is what I’m hoping for at this point.

However it’s strange that the Iranians said they moved their uranium before the strikes and the Israelis did nothing.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (eZwyX)

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How hard is it to move thousands of centrifuges?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

317 I'd be interested to know how many of the B-2's the people planning the operation expected to lose.

That the plan came off with what appears to be flawless precision boggles the mind.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (tT6L1)

318
MIPA

Posted by: Make Iran Persia Again at June 23, 2025 12:22 PM (rqEUB)

319 Yet the only mask weaters I see around all seem to be Black females
Posted by: Skip


And their husbands (Walmart yesterday). It's over 90 freaking degrees out. Imagine the panic as you explain to someone that you resuscitated them by taking the mask off.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 12:22 PM (5z/gh)

320 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

*shrugs*

Just going off of what I’ve read

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (eZwyX)

321 One thing I always wanted to see was more use of naval/air assets instead of sending in troops.

You need troops to conquer land but our national interests rarely need us to conquer land. So avoid conflict when you can, and push other countries to do what we want them to with damage from air/sea strikes instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (t0Rmr)

322 Massie and Paul for that matter are loosely connected with the the Koch network which interlocks with the Chamber of Commerce front man Mitch McConnell. Massie's wife recently died and he has taken up dating Christine Pshaw who was a former DeSantis operative and a fervent supporter of Ukraine war funding.

Lots of wheels within wheels when you are dealing with connections on the GOP side just as the Dems have their own.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)

Now that is interesting, Whig! I did not know… the incestuousness is amazing

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (/iXAp)

323 Well....weeds to pull.
Later Gang.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (W/lyH)

324 If the Supreme leader doesn't want to comply with demand to abandon pursuit of nuclear weapons it only makes sense that you would call for a regime change to prevent further hostilities.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (VofaG)

325 How hard is it to move thousands of centrifuges?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

Super easy, barely an inconvenience ?

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (g47mK)

326 28 I just read "Shepherds for Sale, How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda" by Megan Bashan. She describes how left-wing groups, such as the Eli Lily Foundation, are pouring millions of dollars into "education" programs meant to influence Evangelical churches.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 11:09 AM (PiwSw)

There is an interesting youtube series by Christian Reform Initiative that documents how the Southern Baptist Convention is essentially staging hostile takeovers of (wealthy) independent churches with tithes and offerings going into undisclosed accounts. The pastors associated with the takeovers are all DEI/CRT/Green promoters. Worth a look at how they twist the Gospel to achieve their blatantly worldly goals. It hurts my heart for the Bride of Christ, and how this affects the salvation of souls.

Posted by: moki at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (wLjpr)

327 After watching Kirsche last night, should I get into VTubing? And what should I ramble about?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 11:58 AM (sZI8v)

You saw that gamersups cash just laying there, didn't you?

I dunno. Models. AI gen art. Esoteric (and not so) esoteric planes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:24 PM (bss/y)

328 320 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

*shrugs*

Just going off of what I’ve read
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (eZwyX)

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Based on what I've read...you can't just move some uranium ore and be fine.

It's a massively complicated operational apparatus of which the uranium is a small part that will take weeks of very careful work to dismantle and move.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

329 281
‘ They're as full of shit as a Christmas goose’

I’ll pass on Christmas at your house this year.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 23, 2025 12:24 PM (jbnUc)

330 If the Supreme leader doesn't want to comply with demand to abandon pursuit of nuclear weapons it only makes sense that you would call for a regime change to prevent further hostilities.

Posted by: polynikes


Is Trump demanding external or internal regime change?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (5WDkb)

331 Hal Rogers is the longest serving Republican in congress, and runs a machine in southern KY, having brought in huge amounts of pork when he was chairman of appropriations. Everything is named for him. The Daniel Boone parkway was even remaned for him.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Not surprising. Rural Democrats used to accumulate that seniority for exactly that reason. To become chairmen of powerful committees and then use that as a platform to direct money back to their district. But the Ike Skeltons, William Natchers, and Jamie Whittons of the world at least were all patriots compared to the Dems rotten urban boroughs.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (ctrM5)

332 We'll be moving on to the next bullshit-outrage event in 3, 2,...

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:19 PM (DCmYx)

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"TRUMP IS PAVING THE ROSE GARDEN -- IMPEACH!!!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (QCCit)

333
The Only thing Iran "moved" is their bowels.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (DCmYx)

334 See my #115. He didn't exactly call for regime change, at least not by us. He's trying to get the Iranian people to rise up, and know that this time, we won't undercut them the way Barry did.

Donald Trump was a bit more bombastic — surprise! — on Truth Social over the weekend. “It’s not politically correct to use the term, ‘Regime Change,’" he posted, "but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!”

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

335 >>> NEW: Kristi Noem Issues Nationwide Terrorism Alert for America – Iran Reportedly Set to Attack U.S. Military Facilities Within Hours


Ummm... OK.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (b2L/I)

336 Captchas have gotten beyond annoying.

I'm so tired of clicking on bicycles, motorcycles, traffic lights and busses.

And then they screw you sometimes by having the squares with a little bit of the object hanging out.

Do I click on the square with the tiny sliver of the rear view mirror on it?

Do I click on the guy's body, because his ass is connecting to the seat of the motorcycle right at the edge of a box?

Do I click on that tiny traffic light way off in the distance that most people missed, but I didn't, and if I click on it because I see it, will I get screwed because most people didn't?

Invariably I always guess wrong and have to do the entire thing over again.

I miss the days where they gave you a street sign and all you had to do was type in the numbers and letters so their AI could learn from humans doing the work for them on the hard ones.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (6ydKt)

337 Trump is now calling for regime change. From some of things I’ve read it sounds like we’re gearing up for full war.

He's been both explicit and consistent on "no US troops on the ground" and "we won't directly perform regime change".

Note that the focus of Israeli bombing has turned to the mullahs' secret police who are charged with keeping the citizens in line. The Iranians tried to overthrow the mullahs once before, but Obama and Jarrett propped up the mullahs. They need to go for round 2 now.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (2ocoG)

338
The Only thing Iran "moved" is their bowels.
Posted by: Soothsayer


Heh.

Get it?

That was a good one.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (DCmYx)

339 Hey. I'm full of shit, too!

Posted by: The Thanksgiving Goose at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (rqEUB)

340 There is an interesting youtube series by Christian Reform Initiative that documents how the Southern Baptist Convention is essentially staging hostile takeovers of (wealthy) independent churches with tithes and offerings going into undisclosed accounts. The pastors associated with the takeovers are all DEI/CRT/Green promoters. Worth a look at how they twist the Gospel to achieve their blatantly worldly goals. It hurts my heart for the Bride of Christ, and how this affects the salvation of souls.
Posted by: moki at June 23, 2025 12:23 PM (wLjpr)
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I fear Calvary Chapel may be headed this direction. The people who took over for the late Pastor Chuck are not Pastor Chuck. Not even close.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (tT6L1)

341 There was a regime change in the US in NOvember, 2024. We did it ourselves !

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (g47mK)

342 300 Yet the only mask weaters I see around all seem to be Black females
Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 12:15 PM (+qU29)

I see more Asian. I think it's in their blood. About the same between black and white for me though it's rare I see it for either. Makes a difference I guess I live in a county that vote 75% for Trump.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:1


When I taught in South Korea 14 years back or so, I'd occasionally see people with masks if sick.

I thought it was cute at the time. Not after the last few years....

Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 12:26 PM (jvJvP)

343 It's entirely possible the AoSHQ does NOT represent the views of most Trump voters, and it's possible there are people doing the exact opposite of you: They're jumping off the Trump bandwagon, and listening more to people like Thomas Massie.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 23, 2025 12:12 PM (dGCAG)

Absolutely. Spend a bit of time on YouTube and see what people like Theo Von and Tim Dillon are saying. They fucking hate what just happened.

And of course the retort here will be who cares what they say? They’re just dumb comedians. Ok maybe they are. But they’re very influential. Remember the whole podcast election?

As much as ai love this place it can get very insular and in its own bubble.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:27 PM (/CkK4)

344 "TRUMP IS PAVING THE ROSE GARDEN -- IMPEACH!!!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (QCCit)

Yup.. Saw that.. No roses were removed.. A patch of lawn was replaced with pavers... Oh no...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:27 PM (VE6XX)

345
>>> NEW: Kristi Noem Issues Nationwide Terrorism Alert for America – Iran Reportedly Set to Attack U.S. Military Facilities Within Hours



Sauce??
or
Source??

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:28 PM (DCmYx)

346 335 >>> NEW: Kristi Noem Issues Nationwide Terrorism Alert for America – Iran Reportedly Set to Attack U.S. Military Facilities Within Hours
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A lot of warnings in QATAR. Airspace shutdown. US ordering US citizens in QATAR to shelter in place.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:28 PM (G0vdT)

347 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

Well, I’d prefer what you read is correct and that what I’ve read is wrong.

This whole thing is weird.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:28 PM (eZwyX)

348 Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5

Yes very interesting. The viewpoints can appear to be different but all funded by a common benefactor.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:28 PM (VofaG)

349 347 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

Well, I’d prefer what you read is correct and that what I’ve read is wrong.

This whole thing is weird.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:28 PM (eZwyX)

=====

"We totally got all the uranium out, bruhs."
-Iran, totally believable bruh

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:28 PM (GBKbO)

350 Is Trump demanding external or internal regime change?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (5WDkb)
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During President Trump's ME tour, he made a speech lauding what countries like Saudi Arabia have accomplished, built by them, not by other people telling them what to do. (paraphrasing)

That speech was made for a reason.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 12:29 PM (tT6L1)

351 China said the United States has hurt its reputation as a global power and its diplomatic standing by attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities while it was engaged in talks with Tehran.

“Iran is harmed, but also harmed is U.S. credibility — as a country and as a party to any international negotiations,” Fu Cong, China’s ambassador to the United Nations, told China’s state broadcaster on Sunday.


https://tinyurl.com/54fsthrr
(NY Times via archive.is


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That's rich coming from a country that breaks every agreement it makes and has been threatening to invade Taiwan for 50 years.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:29 PM (6ydKt)

352 I just read "Shepherds for Sale, How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda" by Megan Bashan. She describes how left-wing groups, such as the Eli Lily Foundation, are pouring millions of dollars into "education" programs meant to influence Evangelical churches.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 11:09 AM (PiwSw)

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A good read along these lines is "Letter to the American Church" by Eric Metaxas -- especially as response to the pathetic covid cowardice.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (QCCit)

353 344 "TRUMP IS PAVING THE ROSE GARDEN -- IMPEACH!!!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:25 PM (QCCit)

Yup.. Saw that.. No roses were removed.. A patch of lawn was replaced with pavers... Oh no...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:27 PM (VE6XX)
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Yeah and that Misogynist Trump is doing it because...{checks notes} women were complaining it was hard to walk on the grass with heals.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (G0vdT)

354 Now that is interesting, Whig! I did not know… the incestuousness is amazing
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
======
As a general rule, regarding politicians, if one finds themselves acting like a defense attorney for their favorite congress critter, the reality to others is often that they are a slimy scumbag.

Never fall in love with a political candidate, they will ALWAYS break your heart for raison d'etat.
It is always choosing between the lesser of evils in a representative democracy. I prefer King Log to King Stork (Aesop's Fables) personally but obviously that is rarely the case. Instead we have to pick between a fat King Stork that has already engorged itself on the poor frogs versus a lean and hungry one.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (ctrM5)

355 1 China said the United States has hurt its reputation as a global power and its diplomatic standing by attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities while it was engaged in talks with Tehran.

Talk was done.. Iran went dark

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (VE6XX)

356 Trump not announcing the bombing SAVED LIVES. American and Iranian.

The Hate America First inbreds don't care.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (wBaIH)

357
Tim Fag Dillon, and Theo Von??

Yeah, 1) they hate Israel, and say this was "for Israel." And 2) they think this means "War!"

No, this was just a bombing of a shithole country with a shitty regime.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (DCmYx)

358 NOOD Garcia

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (QCCit)

359 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:27 PM (/CkK4)

You don't run a country on poll numbers. You do what you believe is right and let the cards fall where they may.

Poll numbers are the bane of politics.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (VofaG)

360 That's rich coming from a country that breaks every agreement it makes and has been threatening to invade Taiwan for 50 years.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Currently China is ignoring a World Court decision regarding islands and economic rights in the South China Sea.

Communism comes down to might makes right and hypocrisy/lies when they lack the sufficient 'might' to get what they want. Stalin and mustache man are a prime example. Both intended to plunder and pillage the other but mustache man was better prepared to do it to Stalin before Stalin could do it to him.

Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (ctrM5)

361 357
Tim Fag Dillon, and Theo Von??

Yeah, 1) they hate Israel, and say this was "for Israel." And 2) they think this means "War!"

No, this was just a bombing of a shithole country with a shitty regime.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 12:30 PM (DCmYx)

This is precisely what I’m talking about. You want to pretend any opposing views to yours are “just a stupid fag saying things”. Get out of the bubble dude. There are a ton of people saying this.

Forever war is not a popular thing anymore. Neither is the Cold War mentality.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (/CkK4)

362 If US involvement remains one off air strikes and plausibly deniable SOF missions, then their will be no issue.

BOTG is a totally different story.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)

363 Source??

MEWGA - Make Endless War Great Again

Posted by: Linsey Graham, Spokesman at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (QHX6R)

364 362 If US involvement remains one off air strikes and plausibly deniable SOF missions, then their will be no issue.

BOTG is a totally different story.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)

=======

Both parties masturbated at the idea of sending American troops to Ukraine for years and never did it because the politics is so bad.

Doubt Trump does it in Iran.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 12:34 PM (GBKbO)

365 What we got here, is a woman who needs a canceling.

Hazel Appleyard@HazelAppleyard_
BBC presenter reads “pregnant people” from the teleprompter and then corrects it to “women”.
Takes a brave, brave lady to do this at the BBC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (L/fGl)

366
Everything is named for him. The Daniel Boone parkway was even remaned for him.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 12:20 PM (ITkJX)

___________

1) If you held elective or appointed office, you can't have anything built with public money named after you.

2) Only military personnel who died in line of duty can have something named after them.

3) There are no - repeat, no - exceptions to 1) and 2).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 12:35 PM (QnmlO)

367 You don't run a country on poll numbers. You do what you believe is right and let the cards fall where they may.

Poll numbers are the bane of politics.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 12:31 PM (VofaG)

Ok that’s fine. I don’t disagree with this. We elect leaders to lead not to do what polls say. No issues there.

But the problem is a lot of war hawks assume they’re in the majority. They’re not. And when polls do show it, they throw out the “poles are for strippers” stuff because they’re in the bubble.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (/CkK4)

368
And of course the retort here will be who cares what they say? They’re just dumb comedians. Ok maybe they are. But they’re very influential. Remember the whole podcast election?

As much as ai love this place it can get very insular and in its own bubble.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:27 PM (/CkK4)

--

There's a poll out that says 74% approve of Trump bombing Iran's nuke sites.

There's plenty of opinion on the net, but 74% is a damn good number, and I don't mind not being in the 25% on this one.

Iran had it coming.
Moreso than Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, the mullahs had it coming.

Even the Saudis have chilled out with their jihadis in the last decade or so.

But Iran keeps on keeping on with their B.S., and they have finally figured out what time it is.

Le'ts wait and see what Joe Rogan thinks, though.

I know I always check with podcasters, comedians and talking heads before I can approve of any important decision made by the president.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (6ydKt)

369
“Iran is harmed, but also harmed is U.S. credibility — as a country and as a party to any international negotiations,” Fu Cong, China’s ambassador to the United Nations, told China’s state broadcaster on Sunday.


How about you trot out the Tiananmen Square shopping bag guy and let us hear his opinion on this matter?

We'll wait.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (xG4kz)

370 I keep trying to wrap my brain around what kind of adult humans would make their prez vote based on TikTok.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Hmm idk, I think it’s an organic process. People are bored, looking for entertainment. They’re easy prey for hunters. TikTok starts off being sort of just silly but has grown to include infotainment. Think magazines of the digital age. The good ones kept people flipping pages.

I also think people have more anxiety than ever and if someone presents things in a funny way or in a space they already associate with humor, it makes hard things easier to deal with. Comedians could be really good salespeople.

Posted by: H at June 23, 2025 12:36 PM (2gjbv)

371 "Donald Trump flushing the climate communists out of the TVA is actual, real-life conservatism in action."

I think the key to success for Trump is to increase congressional majorities in the midterms, and the key to THAT is to make as much change as fast as possible, to give the positive results a chance to appear and make a difference!

All substantive change with draw immediate fire from the DeMedia, and that has to be pushed out of the headlines by even newer change until positive results can be realized. Go hard and go fast- no half measures!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (PQOq3)

372 Least some domestic terrorist attack happens. A big one. Does Trump just some emote bombs? It will escalate to something more. BOTG isn’t that far fetched.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:38 PM (/CkK4)

373 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 12:33 PM (/CkK4)

Correct

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 23, 2025 12:39 PM (eZwyX)

374 Spot on rant, Buck!

Posted by: Danimal28 at June 23, 2025 02:23 PM (1E4GV)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Grimshaw moonlit lane.jpg


A moonlit lane

John Atkinson Grimshaw

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

2 kool

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (gbOdA)

3 Some headless dude on horseback is due any minute now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

4 F'n front page jumping bs. Constantly reloading.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (5WDkb)

5 I'm not seeing any happy little trees.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (0nHVk)

6 Where would you hang THAT??

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (PCK5/)

7 Lot essay
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John Atkinson Grimshaw (British, 1836-1893)
A Moonlit Lane
signed and dated 'Atkinson Grimshaw 1874' (lower left)
oil on board
21 ½ x 17 1/8 in. (54.6 x 43.5 cm.)

Price realised
USD 396,500
Estimate
USD 250,000 – USD 400,000

Closed:
31 Oct 2017

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (gbOdA)

8 It was a dark and stormy night....

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (odmkN)

9 Like it, but once I scrolled down to the person with a child it turned a little menacing.

Why aren't you in bed, little one?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (6o/o0)

10 Dark and dreary...

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (Oy/m2)

11 I love this!
Definitely would hang.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (NpAcC)

12 My phone's background.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (Q4IgG)

13 I see snipers ...

Posted by: The lad in the painting at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (0sNs1)

14

Nice, but I prefer Priscilla Lane...


"Oh Mortimer!!!!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (x0n13)

15 That's a big effing house they're walking toward.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (od0dV)

16 Creepy, very very creepy.

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (PCK5/)

17 Where would you hang THAT??
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (PCK5/)


Obligatory: on the side of your windowless van, next to the free candy sign.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (yC5D1)

18 Kid is making moves on the local street walker. This kid is special.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (FmapG)

19 Whew. We're done with fashion...

Posted by: Person who only wears jeans at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (rqEUB)

20 Where would you hang THAT??
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (PCK5/)



In a morgue.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (Zz0t1)

21 I like this mainly for the composition. It’s subject focus is balanced so well that it subconsciously presents an aesthetic feel.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (VofaG)

22 Some of his works look like a BW photo with color retouch.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (gbOdA)

23 Big thing on FB, is asking people is they'd drive down this creepy looking dirt road.

Yeah. Twice a day, minimum.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (5WDkb)

24 It's really good.

Serves no purpose, tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (Zz0t1)

25 Remarkably well done. I can almost hear this painting.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (B5+rm)

26 And that poor child was never seen again...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 09:35 AM (7fElN)

27 Looks a tad creepy but well done. I like it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 23, 2025 09:35 AM (WPL6O)

28 >>John Atkinson Grimshaw


Oh, another one from Grimmy!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (6o/o0)

29 Off in the distance, one can hear rehearsals of "Puttin' on the Ritz."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

30 The trees were angry that night, my friends...

Posted by: George Costanza at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (rqEUB)

31 My house is just a little further, my dear, said the witch…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (PCK5/)

32 AhhhhhhhhhROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Werewolves of London at June 23, 2025 09:37 AM (0sNs1)

33 Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 09:33 AM (odmkN)
-

I responded to your post on JJ's.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 09:37 AM (NC42u)

34 Very atmospheric painting and I like the clouds and moon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 09:37 AM (2GCMq)

35 "John Atkinson Grimshaw"

Sounds like the first line of a limerick...

Posted by: Hint, hint at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (rqEUB)

36 “And this place, my wee little John, is where you are allowed to bark at the moon.”
-Ozzy Osbourne’s dad, maybe

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (yC5D1)

37 Off in the distance, one can hear rehearsals of "Puttin' on the Ritz."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

All I hear is the sound of thunder.

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (Oy/m2)

38 Looks like the setting for a Universal monster movie of the '30s or '40s. (Not an insult; they did a fine job setting atmosphere in films like Bride of Frankenstein and The Wolf Man.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (omVj0)

39 Reminds me of a good mystery novel.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:39 AM (NpAcC)

40 This is pretty good. Lots of moonlight. There's even a house hiding back there.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 09:39 AM (6iGXV)

41 Very nice.

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2025 09:40 AM (fV+MH)

42 37 Off in the distance, one can hear rehearsals of "Puttin' on the Ritz."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

All I hear is the sound of thunder.
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (Oy/m2)
******
I hear an owl.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:40 AM (NpAcC)

43 It's alright ... I won't make you listen to Queensrÿche.

Posted by: The adult in the painting at June 23, 2025 09:40 AM (0sNs1)

44 The technique to make the viewer feel the wetness of the street and dampness of the night is fantastic iMO.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:41 AM (VofaG)

45 Now this is a nice painting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 09:41 AM (cVDqY)

46 A moonlit lane
John Atkinson Grimshaw

**********

Emily Litella, art aficionado. - a limerick

A masterfully done moonlit scene
Not midnight nor dawn. In between.
Geimshaw, as you can see
Has a style that seems to be
Delicately hand-etched on baleen

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 09:41 AM (poXs5)

47 There is a short story by one Alfred Noyes called "Midnight Express." This painting reminds me of that story (though the tale does not involve a moonlit lane, but rather a deserted railway platform at night).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:42 AM (omVj0)

48 Grimshaw's got a lot of works like this. Some of his paintings of Glasgow's docks are pretty cool.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 09:42 AM (Q4IgG)

49 Maybe the little boy got lost while Walking to the graveyard to visit his dead parents. The nun from the church walked out to fetch him from the grave of his mother, where he liked to go when he felt lonely. It’s dark and drippy and they are heading back to the orphanage.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 09:42 AM (mT+6a)

50 Like a whale?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 09:42 AM (6iGXV)

51 Interesting, unusual composition.

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2025 09:43 AM (fV+MH)

52 Kid is making moves on the local street walker. This kid is special.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (FmapG)


“Hey lady, how much?”
$20, same as in town
“Do you take Monopoly money?”
*sigh* Yes

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 09:43 AM (yC5D1)

53 44 The technique to make the viewer feel the wetness of the street and dampness of the night is fantastic iMO.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:41 AM (VofaG)
********
That's exactly what I love about it.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:43 AM (NpAcC)

54 Big thing on FB, is asking people is they'd drive down this creepy looking dirt road.

Yeah. Twice a day, minimum.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025


***
There are wagon or carriage tracks in the road here. Since the painting is from 1874, those can't be tire tracks from cars. Maybe bicycle tracks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:45 AM (omVj0)

55 In December or January, this could be at 4:30PM!

Posted by: DST, FTW! at June 23, 2025 09:45 AM (G5+As)

56 Amazing use of light and shadow.

Reminds me of Magritte;s Empire of Light

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 23, 2025 09:45 AM (RIvkX)

57
“Hey lady, how much?”
$20, same as in town
“Do you take Monopoly money?”
*sigh* Yes

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 09:43 AM (yC5D1)




This is about that Neil Diamond song, isn't it........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:45 AM (Zz0t1)

58 I love it. I would hang it in my house where every could see and be terrorized by it.

Posted by: huerfano at June 23, 2025 09:45 AM (n2swS)

59 Maybe the little boy got lost while Walking to the graveyard to visit his dead parents. The nun from the church walked out to fetch him from the grave of his mother, where he liked to go when he felt lonely. It’s dark and drippy and they are heading back to the orphanage.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025


***
You're right, Nurse, the adult figure does look as if she's wearing a nun's habit.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0)

60 Kind of late to be out with a toddler...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (VE6XX)

61 35 "John Atkinson Grimshaw"

Sounds like the first line of a limerick...
Posted by: Hint, hint at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (rqEUB)

John Atkinson Grimshaw
Tired of pulling a rickshaw,
So he gathered up some whale parts
And practiced at the carving arts,
And instead he's now tired of scrimshaw.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (VoAdT)

62 I'm picturing one of the "What We Do in Shadows" guys coming out of the gate, seeing the people, and saying, "This damn weather makes me not want to eat ANYONE".

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (t0Rmr)

63 Grimshaw should take advantage of his name for marketing and do some art carving on whale bones.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:47 AM (VofaG)

64 1874? So, that little child could be Vic?

Posted by: RIP, Vic at June 23, 2025 09:47 AM (G5+As)

65 Well the legs are bare.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 09:47 AM (6iGXV)

66 The wall along the right looks much as if it's lit from within. Probably it's white stone or even marble, but it seems to be glowing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:47 AM (omVj0)

67 "Call me Grimshaw, he said while holding a femur."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 09:47 AM (mlg/3)

68 1874? So, that little child could be Vic?

Posted by: RIP, Vic at June 23, 2025 09:47 AM (G5+As)



I remember those days......

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at June 23, 2025 09:48 AM (Zz0t1)

69 You're right, Nurse, the adult figure does look as if she's wearing a nun's habit.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0)

Can't be a Nun.. Dress is too short....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:48 AM (VE6XX)

70 This is a very nice painting. The moon breaking the cloud cover is wonderful. Thanks for posting.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 23, 2025 09:48 AM (gWfAG)

71 Off in the distance, one can hear rehearsals of "Puttin' on the Ritz."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)


I offer this peppy little Moon tune as an alternate

https://youtu.be/XonHIXdA2Zg

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:49 AM (B5+rm)

72 Huh.

Embiggening makes it smaller.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:49 AM (Zz0t1)

73 Looks like the are both wearing rain coats.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (VofaG)

74 They didn't have streetlights in 1874?

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (Oy/m2)

75 Looking at other works by Grimshaw, I see he really did go for the nocturnal and atmospheric. Very much the kind of atmosphere and handling of light that would have gone with a Sherlock Holmes story, or a Poe, or an M.R. James.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (omVj0)

76 72 Huh.

Embiggening makes it smaller.
Posted by: Sponge

That’s what she said?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (mT+6a)

77 The wall along the right looks much as if it's lit from within. Probably it's white stone or even marble, but it seems to be glowing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere



Orcs nearby.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (yC5D1)

78 What color are their shoes?

Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (i0F8b)

79 🎵Rainy days and Mondays🎵

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (NpAcC)

80 There is a creepy house you can barely see through the trees.

2:1 Vampire House
4:1 Werewolf House
8:1: Tentacle Monster House

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (t0Rmr)

81 As my grandson would say, "Those are scary trees."

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (PMtkd)

82
That’s what she said?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (mT+6a)



Get out of my bedroom!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (Zz0t1)

83 9 You're right, Nurse, the adult figure does look as if she's wearing a nun's habit.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025
*
Can't be a Nun.. Dress is too short....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025


***
Good point. But he or she does seem to be wearing a hood of some kind.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (omVj0)

84 What color are their shoes?
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 09:50 AM (i0F8b)

"87-GT-H417: Dried Muck"

Posted by: Glidden Paint Chip at June 23, 2025 09:52 AM (VoAdT)

85 Embiggening makes it smaller.
Posted by: Sponge

That’s what she said?


Hey peoples!

Posted by: Pfizer's non-evil famous product at June 23, 2025 09:52 AM (t0Rmr)

86 ***
Good point. But he or she does seem to be wearing a hood of some kind.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (omVj0)



Ghetto fabulous.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:52 AM (Zz0t1)

87 Good point. But he or she does seem to be wearing a hood of some kind.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:51 AM (omVj0

I'm thinking it's a Man... Most women wouldn't be out at night with a child that late don't think....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:52 AM (VE6XX)

88 Really well done darkness. Don't see this much.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 23, 2025 09:53 AM (n4GiU)

89 You're right, Nurse, the adult figure does look as if she's wearing a nun's habit.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0)


She? She????? You’re assuming the gender of a nun? DURING PRIDE MONTH!!!???


Reeeeeeeee!!!!

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 09:53 AM (yC5D1)

90 The branches at the end of that looming limb look like a 3 and now i can't not see it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 09:54 AM (VoAdT)

91 Somewhere in storage I have a piece of baleen with a fairly simple etching of an Alaskan village scene. Scrimshaw is an interesting technique. Seems like the Alaskan equivalent of whittling wood, a way to pass the time on a winter night with a scrap of whatever's laying around.

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 09:54 AM (poXs5)

92 Looks like they are both wearing rain coats.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025


***
The kind of rubberized raincoat called a "mac" or "mackintosh"? Those appeared in 1824, so it could be both are wearing macs. (A lyric in "Penny Lane" mentions a mac: "And the banker never wears a mac / In the pouring rain, very strange.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 09:54 AM (omVj0)

93 Lot of famous night paintings. I think Van Gogh had the most.

Casper David Friedrich , Monet , Turner had a few they are known for.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:54 AM (VofaG)

94 867-5309.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 09:55 AM (6iGXV)

95 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (cYBz/)

96 This is nice
Could be a raincoat on the adult

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (+qU29)

97 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (cYBz/)



What about the rest of us?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (Zz0t1)

98 Van Goghs night scenes are all very bright, somehow.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (VoAdT)

99 Crickets

Posted by: Darth Doodah at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (Vu7A1)

100 I'm thinking it's a Man... Most women wouldn't be out at night with a child that late don't think....
Posted by: It's me donna at June


A mother would be carrying her child in the dark and wet. The woman has her hand on the mid back, gently guiding the little one along the way.

And there’s a church in the background. Perhaps the orphanage is in the back.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 09:57 AM (mT+6a)

101 Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 09:54 AM (poXs

I have a collection of older scrimshaw pocket knives .

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:57 AM (VofaG)

102 Could be a raincoat on the adult
Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (+qU29)



Wearing a raincoat prevents leaving DNA during the rape.

Posted by: Democrat Rapist at June 23, 2025 09:57 AM (Zz0t1)

103
That is a depressing scene, full of foreboding. One can easily see something horrifying happening to those two. What happened to things more bucolic?

On that note, may all effort from you result in maximal benefit and subsequent heartburn for the leftwit contingent.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 23, 2025 09:57 AM (hKoQL)

104
The light effects in the clouds are nicely rendered
the two figures alone make for creepy vibe
kind of Halloween-y
a bit monochromatic
I rate this as 'meh'

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 09:58 AM (AOsQT)

105 There are wagon or carriage tracks in the road here. Since the painting is from 1874, those can't be tire tracks from cars. Maybe bicycle tracks.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Why wasn't a bicycle made for two side by side instead of inline?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:59 AM (5WDkb)

106 I like to do twilight paintings. Both sunset and sunrise.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:59 AM (VofaG)

107 My house is cheerful so this wouldn't work.

Posted by: Case at June 23, 2025 09:59 AM (ilX37)

108 On that note, may all effort from you result in maximal benefit and subsequent heartburn for the leftwit contingent.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 23, 2025 09:57 AM (hKoQL)

Sounds like the IRGC got their ration of heartburn last night. And ass-burn.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 09:59 AM (cVDqY)

109 Why wasn't a bicycle made for two side by side instead of inline?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:59 AM (5WDkb)

Wouldn't that just be a unicycle with a side car?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:00 AM (VoAdT)

110
Temp check:

84 degrees
65% humidity
Feels Like: It's Gross Out

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 10:00 AM (1msgx)

111 Why wasn't a bicycle made for two side by side instead of inline?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:59 AM (5WDkb)



Weight distribution.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)

112 I want to trim that branch

Posted by: H at June 23, 2025 10:00 AM (2gjbv)

113 That the viewer can make up a whole emotional story in their mind about this painting is a painter’s goal.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:01 AM (VofaG)

114 I've seen this movie...

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 10:02 AM (YwEeS)

115 I believe CBD has used other paintings by this artist and I liked them all. This one is gorgeous. Grimshaw's ability to show natural light and illumination is wonderful: convincing, glowing, and evoking an emotional response from the viewer. Although known for his night time works, his day time landscapes are equally effective.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is what Kinkade was trying to achieve.

Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)

116 Would hang

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 10:03 AM (aBgBM)

117 looks like it's nice and C-O-O-L there

not like here

Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2025 10:03 AM (dCxaZ)

118 113 That the viewer can make up a whole emotional story in their mind about this painting is a painter’s goal.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:01 AM (VofaG)

This is true

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 10:03 AM (VE6XX)

119 looks like it's nice and C-O-O-L there

not like here
Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2025 10:03 AM (dCxaZ)

Well, spoiler alert, it's about to get muggy there!

Posted by: A mugger hiding behind a tree at June 23, 2025 10:04 AM (VoAdT)

120 Caption:

DCI Vera Stanhope escorts a child witness back to the crime scene to see if it will jog her memory.

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:04 AM (poXs5)

121 98 Van Goghs night scenes are all very bright, somehow.

I did a puzzle based on his Cafe at Moonlight painting, and it was so interesting the bright sea green he used to depict the effect of the gas lighting fixtures.

Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2025 10:04 AM (dCxaZ)

122 100 comment rule

Who thinks Elon missed when he named it RoboTaxi instead of RoboCab

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (AOsQT)

123 I can't be the only one who thinks this is what Kinkade was trying to achieve.
Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)

Kinkade gets a bad rap imo. Isn’t it ironic that the more commercial success an artist has the more he’s criticized by the art critics /art world.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (VofaG)

124 dog in lap, so no caps. for everyone complaining about the hot temps, 45 currently and going to 69. beautiful snow capped mountains in view. yes, it's cold and snowy in montana during the winter, but worth it to live here.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (2NHgQ)

125

You think you're scared?
I have to walk back alone!

Posted by: Ed Gein at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (HRQvT)

126 I'm getting more videos of other WNBA teams beating the shit out of Caitlyn Clark, but she apparently has a team mate, Sophie Cunningham, who has been giving them a little back.

And...she actually looks like a woman too...a rather tall one...but quite fetching https://tinyurl.com/4cmw7nuk

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 10:06 AM (t0Rmr)

127 Something like that is starting in Austin.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:06 AM (6iGXV)

128 looks like it's nice and C-O-O-L there

not like here
Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2025 10:03 AM (dCxaZ)

Beautiful morning here. After all the rain, grass is likely going to grow like mad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 10:06 AM (cVDqY)

129 Kinkade gets a bad rap imo. Isn’t it ironic that the more commercial success an artist has the more he’s criticized by the art critics /art world.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (VofaG)

Success brings repetition
Repetition brings familiarity
Familiarity brings contempt

... and Cash brings not giving a crap about some neckbeard's contempt.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:07 AM (VoAdT)

130 100 comment rule

Who thinks Elon missed when he named it RoboTaxi instead of RoboCab
Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (AOsQT)

What was it named in Total Recall ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:07 AM (VofaG)

131 What "Christie's art auction has to saw about his work- along the lines of what JTB said so well:

https://tinyurl.com/yfkvkmnw

And I'm one of those gauche people who rather likes the work of Kincaide and no, I don't see his stuff very often, don't have it hanging in my house and probably wouldn't buy it, and yes I think Grimshaw was a much better painter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 10:07 AM (2GCMq)

132 >>Somewhere in storage I have a piece of baleen with a fairly simple etching of an Alaskan village scene. Scrimshaw is an interesting technique. Seems like the Alaskan equivalent of whittling wood, a way to pass the time on a winter night with a scrap of whatever's laying around.

There's a scrimshaw store over in Newport. The owner also gives classes to anyone who wants to learn how to do it.

Nantucket used to have one of the best collections of scrimshaw. Sailors spent a lot of time on those whaling ships and they didn't the interwebs or even a game of cornhole.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 10:09 AM (viF8m)

133 in Total Recall it was JohnnyCab, so, no

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:09 AM (AOsQT)

134
Hmmmm. I'll allow it

Posted by: Zombie Bob Ross at June 23, 2025 10:10 AM (5hfjS)

135
"You're scared? I gotta walk back out alone!"

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 10:10 AM (j4U/Z)

136 Why wasn't a bicycle made for two side by side instead of inline?
Posted by: rickb223

If constructed side by side there'd be no opportunity for backseat driving orders.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 10:10 AM (cYBz/)

137 I'm not sure which malevolent force in the universe is responsible for there not being some major scandal involving Musk so we can all call it ElonGate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:10 AM (VoAdT)

138 The way the wagon tracks disappear indicate the storm has caused the lake level yo rise so that part of the road is underwater. I hope they have their Wellies on.

Galoshes for those of us in the Colonies.

How many different regional names are there for rubber mud/rain boots?

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (poXs5)

139 >>>>Sailors spent a lot of time on those whaling ships and they didn't the interwebs or even a game of cornhole.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 10:09 AM (viF8m)
*********
Chumming the pun waters, eh?

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (gWfAG)

140 Overshoes

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (poXs5)

141 I can't be the only one who thinks this is what Kinkade was trying to achieve.
Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)

Kinkade gets a bad rap imo. Isn’t it ironic that the more commercial success an artist has the more he’s criticized by the art critics /art world.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (VofaG)



I was thinking Margaret Keane.*



*Obscure art joke that nobody gets.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (iJfKG)

142 Peter Lorre in the movie "M"?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (xzxTU)

143 in Total Recall it was JohnnyCab, so, no
Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:09 AM (AOsQT)

I thought he would just name it XCab

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (VofaG)

144 Mukluks?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (VoAdT)

145 Wouldn't you need two chains?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:12 AM (6iGXV)

146 >>Chumming the pun waters, eh?

Every now and then you have to feed the sharks.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 10:12 AM (viF8m)

147 The art!

I like it. Moody, A bit creepy, and just lovely work.
The title checks out!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 23, 2025 10:12 AM (2J/Lj)

148 >How many different regional names are there for rubber mud/rain boots?

Posted by: muldoon
---

"Wellies"

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:12 AM (AOsQT)

149 Clodhoppers?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:13 AM (VoAdT)

150 *Obscure art joke that nobody gets.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (iJfKG)

Her ex husband got the joke.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:13 AM (VofaG)

151 I have a couple of scrimshaw tie tacks/clips.

I do not, however, have any ties.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 10:13 AM (Q4IgG)

152 Big Panda wants his oil.

@Osint613
·
1h
BREAKING 🔴

China issues warning to Iran after threats to close the Strait of Hormuz:
“The Persian Gulf and nearby waters are vital trade corridors. They must be kept stable and free from disruption.”

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (viF8m)

153 ...or even a game of cornhole.
Posted by: JackStraw

*********

At least that's what they told their wives and girlfriends when they returned from sea.

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (poXs5)

154 I'm getting more videos of other WNBA teams beating the shit out of Caitlyn Clark, but she apparently has a team mate, Sophie Cunningham, who has been giving them a little back.

And...she actually looks like a woman too...a rather tall one...but quite fetching https://tinyurl.com/4cmw7nuk
Posted by: 18-1


She's 6-1.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (5WDkb)

155 How many different regional names are there for rubber mud/rain boots?

Posted by: muldoon
---

"Wellies"
Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:12 AM (AOsQT)

Galoshes.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (VofaG)

156 >I thought he would just name it XCab

Posted by: polynikes
---

he does like the letter X

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (AOsQT)

157
And...she actually looks like a woman too...a rather tall one...but quite fetching https://tinyurl.com/4cmw7nuk
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 10:06 AM (t0Rmr)



She's also a black belt in some karate variant.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

158 Regenfußenoberschuhensplashensbootsen!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (VoAdT)

159 Twitter Taxi.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:15 AM (6iGXV)

160 Aw, Fenalon
You’re not gauche because you like Kincaide.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 10:15 AM (5KFR9)

161 Clodhoppers?
Posted by: Warai-otoko


Aka, boondockers. Shoes. Roughout suede.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 10:15 AM (5WDkb)

162 152 Big Panda wants his oil.

@Osint613
·
1h
BREAKING 🔴

China issues warning to Iran after threats to close the Strait of Hormuz:
“The Persian Gulf and nearby waters are vital trade corridors. They must be kept stable and free from disruption.”
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (viF8m)

=======

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a single drop of oil left inside. Oh bother."
-Winnie the Pooh

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

163 Rainboots.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:16 AM (6iGXV)

164 123 ... "Kinkade gets a bad rap imo. Isn’t it ironic that the more commercial success an artist has the more he’s criticized by the art critics /art world."

Agreed. I like Kinkade's popular paintings and to hell with the critics. I've seen some of his earlier works and I like them even more.

Your previous comment "That the viewer can make up a whole emotional story in their mind about this painting is a painter’s goal." That really hits home. That added dimension of deeper connection with the audience is what makes a painting, prose or poem ever more artistic and effective.

Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:16 AM (yTvNw)

165 The level of detail that Kincade could cram into a painting is staggering, the issue I have with Kincade is that the lighting in most Kincade paintings is flat and uniform, which tended to make his paintings, ultimately, uninteresting after the initial viewing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 10:16 AM (XV/Pl)

166 It's a woman and child

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 10:16 AM (+qU29)

167 Kinkade gets a bad rap imo. Isn’t it ironic that the more commercial success an artist has the more he’s criticized by the art critics /art world.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (VofaG)


Same with music. Band barely survives in obscurity they’re raw and hip man!! They get a hit and make money and become popular? They sold out man and lost their souls!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:16 AM (/CkK4)

168 "Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried" - David Hogg

Fetterman just did. 🙄 “As I’ve long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS,” Fetterman wrote in a post on X

Seems like too many Democratic office-holders are just trying to keep their mouths shut and escape notice

Divisive rhetoric and eating or own always helps the GOP. how convenient that he is raising cash to fund his own PAC to support his views.

This know it all kid sure thinks highly of himself. Maybe he should run for office. Anyone who identifies as a Democrat should SUPPORT DEMOCRATS! And quit trying to constantly undermine and criticize and threaten Dems in congress.

The know it all kid has the support of this retired 63 year old. I am done being nice! we need to support EFFECTIVE Democrats, not just people who cannot let go of power

How about Mr Hogg focus on defeating republicans, not Democrats.

we realize republicans are worthless POS. But also, lame ass Dems need to be smacked down, embarrassed, and cut the hell off.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (JCZqz)

169 It's a hundred billion degrees out, and a touch humid, so probably going to hang out and do little today.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (n4GiU)

170 Off in the distance, one can hear rehearsals of "Puttin' on the Ritz."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

All I hear is the sound of thunder.
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (Oy/m2)

How far off?

Posted by: Bob Seeger, humming a song from 1962 at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (wVcYX)

171 She's also a black belt in some karate variant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

Taekwondo. She got her black belt at six so I don’t know how legit her skill is if she didn’t continue her training.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (VofaG)

172 Overshoes
Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:11 AM (poXs5)



You trying to turn it into a fashion thread again?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)

173 DCI Vera Stanhope

ITKYK

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:18 AM (poXs5)

174 The hated of Kincade stems from the accessibility. Anyone can just go out and buy one.

Real art requires you to wait for a gallery event and dress up like a dweeb and talk nonsense with weirdos and eventually grow to question your own sexuality and snack food preferences before setting up a third mortgage to be able to buy a turd smeared on a sheet of OSB.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (VoAdT)

175
Kid is making moves on the local street walker. This kid is special.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:34 AM (FmapG)


Ya ever get a midnight hammer, lady?

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (yC5D1)

176 6'1 is pretty damn tall for a normal woman. I see she's a guard in the WNBA...the internets says that makes her taller then 99% of women...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (t0Rmr)

177 168 This know it all kid sure thinks highly of himself. Maybe he should run for office. Anyone who identifies as a Democrat should SUPPORT DEMOCRATS! And quit trying to constantly undermine and criticize and threaten Dems in congress.

The know it all kid has the support of this retired 63 year old. I am done being nice! we need to support EFFECTIVE Democrats, not just people who cannot let go of power

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (JCZqz)

=======

No talk about the importance of the issue, just straight partisan politics.

Partisanship makes you stupid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (GBKbO)

178 The Queen in her Wellies

https://tinyurl.com/38fcp8yd

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (AOsQT)

179 Did anyone tell CBD about the attempted maple syrup coup in his absence from yesterday's food thread?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (ITkJX)

180 Why not Midnight Rambler?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:19 AM (6iGXV)

181 Rubbers.

Posted by: Reforger at June 23, 2025 10:20 AM (LgDgc)

182 Ya ever get a midnight hammer, lady?
Posted by: haffhowershower

Have I got some tips for you!!

Posted by: David Wayne DePape at June 23, 2025 10:21 AM (JCZqz)

183 She's also a black belt in some karate variant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

Taekwondo. She got her black belt at six so I don’t know how legit her skill is if she didn’t continue her training.
Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (VofaG)


She has perfect balance in the shits vs fucks realm -- takes none of the former and gives none of the latter.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 10:22 AM (B5+rm)

184 I dropped by an artist's store in a resort town I was in because they were having an exhibit oh and they had AC and I was tired.

The work was competent and interesting but...hundreds to thousands of dollars for art to put on your wall? I'm amazed people spend that much.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 10:22 AM (t0Rmr)

185 148 >How many different regional names are there for rubber mud/rain boots?

Posted by: muldoon
---

"Wellies"
Posted by: Don Black

Doesn’t LL Bean call them “Ducks?”

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 10:22 AM (0wzNL)

186 "Wellies"
Posted by: Don Black

Doesn’t LL Bean call them “Ducks?”
Posted by: nurse ratched

Shitkickers?

Posted by: Iowa Farmer at June 23, 2025 10:23 AM (JCZqz)

187 She's also a black belt in some karate variant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Taekwondo. She got her black belt at six so I don’t know how legit her skill is if she didn’t continue her training.
Posted by: polynikes


That Maui Thai grip she used on her most famous defense of Clarke? Everyone says guy whose ever pulled a chick's head into his lap knows that grip. And that's what it looked like when she used it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 10:23 AM (5WDkb)

188 After midnight, we gonna let it all hang out.

Posted by: Eldridge Cleaver and his pants at June 23, 2025 10:23 AM (wVcYX)

189 More childhood fond memories destroyed.

The Netflix goober who reimagined Castlevania and Devil May Cry has gotten their sticky fingered mittens on Duke Nukem.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:23 AM (sZI8v)

190 I like the name Sophie. I would have named our girl spawn Sophie but our neighbors had a really stupid dog named Sophie. The dog came over to visit every day and got lost in my yard every day.
I had a trellis over the end of our walkway that had a vintage door instead of a gate. There wasn't any fence next to it so most people (including us) walked around this goofy trellis. The bees loved the roses on the trellis, so walking thru was a crapshoot. That idiot dog would stand in the trellis and whine for someone to open that door. Instead of walking around it. Just sit there forever whining until she finally went home, getting lost in my backyard along the way.
We got rid of the trellis, the neighbors and their dog moved, and I couldn't bring myself to name our girl spawn Sophie. But I still like that name.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 23, 2025 10:24 AM (2J/Lj)

191 Rubbers.
Posted by: Reforger at June 23, 2025 10:20 AM (LgDgc)

Gumboots.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 10:24 AM (cVDqY)

192 Doesn’t LL Bean call them “Ducks?”
Posted by: nurse ratched


Bean calls them Gumshoes, Bean Boots or Maine hunting shoes.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 10:25 AM (5WDkb)

193 Harris Has Her Eyes on the California Governor's Race

I wonder if she would do anything differently than Newsom

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 10:26 AM (RHGPo)

194 @184

>>The work was competent and interesting but...hundreds to thousands of dollars for art to put on your wall? I'm amazed people spend that much.


The most I've spent on art is 1k for a Mark Chigall reproduction.

It's 4'x2', the frame is absolutely gorgeous, and much like the rug, it pulls my den together nicely.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 10:26 AM (XV/Pl)

195 BREAKING 🔴

China issues warning to Iran after threats to close the Strait of Hormuz:
“The Persian Gulf and nearby waters are vital trade corridors. They must be kept stable and free from disruption.”

.. 50% of China's oil comes thru the Strait (only 5% to US)

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 10:27 AM (RHGPo)

196 Kinkade is horrible art for people who have aspirations that exceed velvet Elvises and dogs playing poker but lack the taste to actually do better.

Posted by: notgood at June 23, 2025 10:27 AM (LNUo/)

197 > 91 Somewhere in storage I have a piece of baleen with a fairly simple etching of an Alaskan village scene.

Unless you have solid documentation that it was carved by an Alaska Native and/or an official government determination that it predates 1972, you probably want to keep that out of sight.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:28 AM (qpyNK)

198 I wonder if she would do anything differently than Newsom
Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 10:26 AM (RHGPo)

Work up a graph of a running average of fellations per hour and see what the alpha is. Anything else is just guesswork.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:28 AM (VoAdT)

199 The talk about scrimshaw makes me think of the impulse to create something decorative from scrap materials at hand and simple tools. Whalers on long voyages, chip carving and simple whittling during long Nordic winters, inscribing names or scenes on powder horns, even making quilts or needlework from scraps. It seems to be a very human response to make life more enjoyable.

Is it a big step from that impulse to the more involved art, like today's? Or does it all come from the same source?

Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:28 AM (yTvNw)

200 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Beautiful picture. Soothing. Reflective. Subtle. Just like a good scotch!
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 23, 2025 10:29 AM (W/lyH)

201 Kamala could not do worse than Gavin.

Could she?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:29 AM (sZI8v)

202 The Netflix goober who reimagined Castlevania and Devil May Cry has gotten their sticky fingered mittens on Duke Nukem.
Posted by: Anna Puma

So it will take purt near 15 years to be released?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 10:29 AM (cYBz/)

203 My house is cheerful so this wouldn't work.
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Yes, that's one of the deciding factors in the hang/wouldn't hang equations.

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 10:30 AM (TN0g+)

204 So it will take purt near 15 years to be released?

Maybe Netflix will be dead by then

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:30 AM (sZI8v)

205 A moonlit lane
John Atkinson Grimshaw


Now this is art. Beautifully done.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 10:30 AM (BIMpQ)

206 The know it all kid has the support of this retired 63 year old. I am done being nice! we need to support EFFECTIVE Democrats, not just people who cannot let go of power


How in the world with all their burning down cities, blocking working people from going to their jobs, mutating children, screaming and yelling at anyone who disagrees, inability to lose an election with grace, hateful speech, banishing people for disagreement, attempts at assassinating members of the other party,

How in the hell do these lame-asses think that they're "nice" put-upon people?

It's just sad.

They all need to self-deport to Zanzibar, where they'll be happy.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 10:31 AM (iJfKG)

207 > Is it a big step from that impulse to the more involved art, like today's? Or does it all come from the same source?
Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:28 AM (yTvNw)

Some say that the first art was created by an early hominid squatting in the designated latrine area of the cave -- an outgrowth of the ancient instinct for marking your territory by bodily excretions.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:31 AM (qpyNK)

208 I wonder if she would do anything differently than Newsom
Posted by: SMOD


They both do it the same, except he bites just a little.

Posted by: Big Willie B at June 23, 2025 10:31 AM (yC5D1)

209 Kinkade is horrible art for people who have aspirations that exceed velvet Elvises and dogs playing poker but lack the taste to actually do better.
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Ditto for Ansel Adams.

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 10:31 AM (TN0g+)

210 Zanzibar is too nice for them.

Zimbabwe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:31 AM (sZI8v)

211 Like this one , very moody. Would hang.
Grimshaw sounds like a horror movie name
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 10:32 AM (IG2sK)

212 Scrimshaw Grimshaw.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:34 AM (6iGXV)

213 Winter is coming.

Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 10:34 AM (jc0TO)

214 Ditto for Ansel Adams.
Posted by: Crusader


Oooooo. Gotta disagree with you on that one. Ansel Adams has some beautiful work.

Kinkaide is a hack. Paint by numbers kinda hack.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 10:34 AM (BApYz)

215 Kinkade is horrible art for people who have aspirations that exceed velvet Elvises and dogs playing poker but lack the taste to actually do better.
Posted by: notgood at June 23, 2025 10:27 AM (LNUo/)

I bet you like Kline and Motherwell.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:34 AM (VofaG)

216 I'm not aware if Grimshaw did any book illustrations but I would love to see what he could have done with George MacDonald's "Phantastes" or "A Midsummer Night's Dream". His ability to show a mood or atmosphere would fit in so well with stories like those.

Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:35 AM (yTvNw)

217 190 I like the name Sophie. I would have named our girl spawn Sophie but our neighbors had a really stupid dog named Sophie. The dog came over to visit every day and got lost in my yard every day
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Sophia means "wisdom". Dog was misnamed.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 10:35 AM (Dv3i1)

218 Some have claimed that today's art market is largely driven by money laundering.

You buy a J. Random Fuckwit "painting" done in his own feces for, say, $100, then sell it at auction to an "anonymous bidder" (actually you, through a cutout) for $100,000.

Boom. That $100,000 in drug money now has a seemingly legitimate provenance.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:35 AM (qpyNK)

219 The wagon tracks are from the "Bring out your Dead" wagon. This was painted during London's last cholera epidemic. The sewage lagoon pumps on the Thames were just about to commence, which made the city much more livable.

Posted by: Tide Is High, Holdin' On.... at June 23, 2025 10:35 AM (G5+As)

220 201 Kamala could not do worse than Gavin.

Could she?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:29 AM (sZI8v)
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Hmm, I'd have to think about that. Newsom has vetoed a few bill relating to illegal aliens benefits mainly because he has POTUS aspirations. Kamala does not.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 10:36 AM (G0vdT)

221 Harris Has Her Eyes on the California Governor's Race

Sure- she's got her eyes on my 'race'.

Posted by: Gavin Newscum at June 23, 2025 10:36 AM (n9MHj)

222 @190
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 23, 2025 10:24 AM (2J/Lj)


That’s hilarious! I think there was a video very similar to this in the cafe fairly recently.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 23, 2025 10:36 AM (yC5D1)

223 Supreme Court Rules Fuel Producers Can Contest California’s Emissions Regulations

The 7-2 ruling emphasized that it was not considering the substance of the dispute itself, but solely whether the producers had the legal standing to bring the lawsuit.

The justices in a 7-2 ruling overturned a lower court’s decision to throw out the lawsuit by a Valero Energy (VLO.N) subsidiary and fuel industry groups. The lower court had concluded that the plaintiffs lacked the required legal standing to challenge a 2022 U.S. Environmental Protection Agency decision to let California set its own regulations.

“The government generally may not target a business or industry through stringent and allegedly unlawful regulation, and then evade the resulting lawsuits by claiming that the targets of its regulation should be locked out of court as unaffected bystanders,” conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote for the majority.

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 10:36 AM (RHGPo)

224
hahaha!

"Xanadu" is coming out in 4k.

Get your roller skates on and get ready to dance!


Or not.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 10:37 AM (iJfKG)

225 I dated a Swedish tennis player named Sophie. The one time I wasn’t mad they gave sports scholarships to foreigners at my college.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:37 AM (VofaG)

226 Is that Roller Derby?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:38 AM (6iGXV)

227 Roller skates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X2cBWq0lA

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:39 AM (sZI8v)

228 @224

>>"Xanadu" is coming out in 4k.

Olivia Newton John will always be Sandy and Michael Beck will always be Swan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 10:39 AM (XV/Pl)

229 Is that Roller Derby?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 23, 2025 10:38 AM (6iGXV)



Sponsored by the Evelyn Woodhead Sped Reading Course.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)

230 Or does it all come from the same source?
Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:28 AM (yTvNw)
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Some say that the first art was created by an early hominid squatting in the designated latrine area of the cave -- an outgrowth of the ancient instinct for marking your territory by bodily excretions.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


*********

I've seen similar speculation that some southwestern petroglyphs (cave art) was the handiwork of ancient native teenagers doing the equivalent of drawing dick pics on a boys' room stall with a Sharpie.

Hence the exaggerated genitals depicted on the fertility imp Kokopelli.

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:39 AM (poXs5)

231 Weight distribution.

And one hand each on a handlebar.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 10:40 AM (4I7kI)

232 Those du comments are very similar to discussions here. Vote gop no matter what vs primary all the RINOs even if it means Dems win.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:40 AM (/CkK4)

233 Kinkaide is a hack. Paint by numbers kinda hack.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2025 10:34 AM (BApYz)


One of my favorite MST3K host segments was when Joel showed his paint-by-number Rothko.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 10:40 AM (PiwSw)

234 And much like Michael Bean, Michael Beck should of had a bigger career.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 23, 2025 10:40 AM (XV/Pl)

235 209 ... "Ditto for Ansel Adams."

Have to disagree. Adams not only captured impressive scenes, he was a marvel in his developing and printing. His techniques for making a film image was in the same artistic vein as any painter with his paints and brushes. And there was no Photoshop back then.

Posted by: JTB at June 23, 2025 10:40 AM (yTvNw)

236 >>"Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried" - David Hogg


Can someone explain why the war in Ukraine was an absolute necessity to Save Our Democracy(tm) but war with Iran is considered traitorous to the Democrats?


*I can relate to conservatives who don't want to get ensnared in yet another forever war, particularly in the ME.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:41 AM (6o/o0)

237 Hence the exaggerated genitals depicted on the fertility imp Kokopelli.
Posted by: muldoon

See, drawing Biggus Dickus was funny even 3000 years ago.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 10:41 AM (cYBz/)

238 This place.
Love the limericks!

Posted by: Hint, hint at June 23, 2025 10:41 AM (rqEUB)

239 236 Can someone explain why the war in Ukraine was an absolute necessity to Save Our Democracy(tm) but war with Iran is considered traitorous to the Democrats?


*I can relate to conservatives who don't want to get ensnared in yet another forever war, particularly in the ME.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:41 AM (6o/o0)

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It is treason to support Russia in its conflict with Ukraine because Ukraine is almost, sort of, kind of in NATO.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:42 AM (GBKbO)

240 This place.
Love the limericks!
Posted by: Hint, hint at June 23, 2025 10:41 AM (rqEUB)




When you start your own blog........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

241 Hence the exaggerated genitals depicted on the fertility imp Kokopelli.

Except for the fertility goddess figures that have been dug up from Europe to the Middle East with exaggerated breasts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:42 AM (sZI8v)

242 236 >>"Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried" - David Hogg


Can someone explain why the war in Ukraine was an absolute necessity to Save Our Democracy(tm) but war with Iran is considered traitorous to the Democrats?
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"Follow the money" is always a good rule to start with.

Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 10:42 AM (G0vdT)

243 >>hahaha!
"Xanadu" is coming out in 4k.
Get your roller skates on and get ready to dance!


Heh, we were just reminiscing about 1979. . .

How a-musing!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (6o/o0)

244 "Any Democrat who supports this war with Iran needs to be primaried"
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Neighbor has pennants in their back yard, visible to sidewalk passers-by, with all the countries they perceive are with them in the fight against Trump; Canada, Mexico, EU. Now they have one for the Islamic Republic of Iran. They are nice people, obviously terribly misguided. I'm debating whether to let them know that having the Iranian flag up is no different than flying the flag from Nazi Germany.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (Dv3i1)

245 I shouldn't be up daily until Ace shows up.

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (+qU29)

246 242 "Follow the money" is always a good rule to start with.
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 10:42 AM (G0vdT)

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"Trump did a thing, therefore it is bad."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (GBKbO)

247 So I went to my nephew's wedding.
Three hour drive to get there... Ugh.
My brother officiating.. Nice!
They wrote their own vows and did rock, paper, scissors to decide who went first... Cute plus ugh.
Our table was right in front of the DJ... Ugh. Very loud ugh.
It was unbearably hot in the venue... Ugh
I nearly passed out changing my grand son's diaper. Not because of the diaper. Because of heat exhaustion combined with sinus issues.... Ginormous UGH!!
My son and my younger brother were almost carrying me out of there to the car. Hubbymayhem fetched the car. We were almost two hours into the trip home before I could stand to turn the A/C fan down. Scared the bejeezus out of Hubbymayhem and the two spawn.

This did nothing to diminish my hatred of weddings. Ugh.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (2J/Lj)

248 Senator Lumpy Fuckerman has gone on record as supporting Trump bombing the Iranian nuclear sites.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:44 AM (qpyNK)

249 Lizzy

Might as well ask then to explain Planck's Constant

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:44 AM (sZI8v)

250 All I hear is the sound of thunder.
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM (Oy/m2)
******
I hear an owl.
Posted by: redridinghood

The howl of a wolf.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 23, 2025 10:44 AM (j2xV5)

251 Those du comments are very similar to discussions here. Vote gop no matter what vs primary all the RINOs even if it means Dems win.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:40 AM (/CkK4)

Yes and not unexpected. Betrayal is a strong emotion . But I do think the other point of voting for the party is more about pragmatism on our part whereas the left are just an insane borg.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 10:44 AM (VofaG)

252 > "Trump did a thing, therefore it is bad."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (GBKbO)

Yes. These fuckwits would rather get nuked than admit Trump did something right.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:45 AM (qpyNK)

253 Great pic, great technique. But too spooky to hang in a home.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:45 AM (iFTx/)

254 All I hear is the sound of thunder.
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:38 AM


How far off, I sat and wondered.

Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 10:45 AM (jc0TO)

255 The 7-2 ruling emphasized that it was not considering the substance of the dispute itself, but solely whether the producers had the legal standing to bring the lawsuit.
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2 justices reject the silly notion of the right to petition the government.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 10:46 AM (Dv3i1)

256 “Neighbor has pennants in their back yard, visible to sidewalk passers-by, with all the countries they perceive are with them in the fight against Trump; Canada, Mexico, EU. ”

I saw a house this weekend with a Canadian Mexican and Iranian flag flying. I was thinking where’s Ukraine? 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:46 AM (/CkK4)

257 I saw a house this weekend with a Canadian Mexican and Iranian flag flying. I was thinking where’s Ukraine? 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:46 AM (/CkK4)

And of course no American flag because we [Trump] are the bad guys...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 10:48 AM (VE6XX)

258 >>"Follow the money" is always a good rule to start with.


Yeah, I guess.

It's just funny that Ukraine's conflict with Russia is a local issue, as they've been squabbling over land for years, and this is OUR problem, yet the country that's been chanting "Death to America!" since 1979, and has been using regional proxies to murder Americans since then is somehow off limits.

But yes, a lot of Western oligarchs and politicians are doing shady business in Ukraine, so we must protect that -- and the Democrats are so beholden to the CAIR/Pali wing of their party, and hostile to Israel, that it is inexplicably unthinkable to take out their nukes before they're used on us.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:48 AM (6o/o0)

259
I saw a house this weekend with a Canadian Mexican and Iranian flag flying. I was thinking where’s Ukraine? 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:46 AM (/CkK4)



The video of the Amazon driver chasing the guy flying Trump flags tells you all you need to know about how broken the left is. There's no coming back from that. They're completely deranged.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:49 AM (Zz0t1)

260 We had galoshes (they had buckles), rubbers (sort of like rubber gloves for your sneakers), and "barka boots". I don't know if that was from a Boston accent for "Barker".

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 10:49 AM (1q8GR)

261 Thunder only happens when it's raining.

Posted by: Stevie Nicks at June 23, 2025 10:49 AM (rqEUB)

262 Fundamental truths about human beings, and all human civilizations:

Dick and fart jokes will always be funny.
Images of chicks with big tits are cool.
Fermented beverages rock.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:50 AM (qpyNK)

263 Nicely done. Would hang.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 23, 2025 10:50 AM (w6EFb)

264 Some have claimed that today's art market is largely driven by money laundering.

You buy a J. Random Fuckwit "painting" done in his own feces for, say, $100, then sell it at auction to an "anonymous bidder" (actually you, through a cutout) for $100,000.

Boom. That $100,000 in drug money now has a seemingly legitimate provenance.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:35 AM (qpyNK)
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I'm convinced that ALL high-end markets -- art, classic and exotic cars, wines, etc -- are money laundering and market manipulation.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:50 AM (iFTx/)

265 We would also have accepted 'waders'

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:50 AM (poXs5)

266 261 Thunder only happens when it's raining.
Posted by: Stevie Nicks at June 23, 2025 10:49 AM (rqEUB)

Aahhkcthcualy that is false. There is dry lightning that happens without rain.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:51 AM (/CkK4)

267 There is a bit of truth about art = money laundering.

A stolen $10 million painting by an old master can be traded for $1 million in weapons.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 10:51 AM (sZI8v)

268 252 > "Trump did a thing, therefore it is bad."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (GBKbO)

Yes. These fuckwits would rather get nuked than admit Trump did something right.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 23, 2025 10:45 AM (qpyNK)

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I still don't know what to think of the move.

Did it work? Will there be consequences?

I think it's legal. The 2001 AUMF is still in effect, and Iran obviously fits as a germane target under that language.

I suspect Iran is something of a paper tiger, especially after the last few years where it's promised huge consequences to Israel and delivered almost nothing since 10/7. It's inability to respond well to Israel's first phase of the attack for a week, it's promise of a century's worth of memory for an event that never happened, and even China now telling Iran to not shut down the Strait all shows Iran to be weak.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

269 > Ansel Adams has some beautiful work.
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There was a gallery in Pebble Beach that had a number of his works, and a bunch of repros of just about all of them. Some really striking stuff.

Also expensive.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 10:52 AM (Q4IgG)

270 Modern art blows and is only there to launder money.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:52 AM (Zz0t1)

271 >>I saw a house this weekend with a Canadian Mexican and Iranian flag flying. I was thinking where’s Ukraine?


Heh, they're going to have to come up with a new yard sign to cram in all their foreign allegiances similar to the "In this house we believe science is real, no person is illegal blah blah blah."

And they make fun of US for wearing a simple US flag pin, lol!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:52 AM (6o/o0)

272 This place.
Love the limericks!

********

Ah! My work here is done for today. Bye kids! Have fun storming the castle!

Endeavor to. persevere!

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:53 AM (poXs5)

273 Ah! My work here is done for today. Bye kids! Have fun storming the castle!

Endeavor to. persevere!
Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 10:53 AM (poXs5)



This sounds very insurrectiony.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)

274 They are nice people, obviously terribly misguided. . . . . .
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Sounds like one of my SILs. A pediatric physician.

Very much pro clot shot STILL. Pro Iran, illegal immigration, gay, vegan, etc., etc.

Her daughters are both involved in their learn nothing Master's social work programs. Both have 'boyfriends de jure' of color, and are pole 'dancers'. One has been assaulted by one of her clients. Both had no understanding of any aspect of sex ed when they started college.

It's going to end badly for the girls and SIL, and BIL for that matter. They are going to wonder why it all went to hell.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2025 10:54 AM (cYBz/)

275 I saw a house this weekend with a Canadian Mexican and Iranian flag flying. I was thinking where’s Ukraine? 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:46 AM (/CkK4)
_____

What's the Mexican flag for? Anti-ICE? I guess this retard doesn't know that the vast majority of these illegals being rounded up aren't Mexican. They're from Guatemala, Honduras, Venezuela, etc.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:54 AM (iFTx/)

276 What did the doe say when she came out of the woods?

Last time I'll do that for two bucks!

Posted by: Tip your waitress at June 23, 2025 10:54 AM (rqEUB)

277 What's the Mexican flag for? Anti-ICE? I guess this retard doesn't know that the vast majority of these illegals being rounded up aren't Mexican. They're from Guatemala, Honduras, Venezuela, etc.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:54 AM (iFTx/)



It's cute you expect them to actually pay attention to what's going on around them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:55 AM (Zz0t1)

278 277 It's cute you expect them to actually pay attention to what's going on around them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:55 AM (Zz0t1)

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I want stories of Mexicans who were forced out of their houses after the US bought California and sent south of the Rio Grande.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:56 AM (GBKbO)

279 I saw a house this weekend with a Canadian Mexican and Iranian flag flying. I was thinking where’s Ukraine?

And "ISIL"? Probably available on barackobama.com for Father's Day.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 10:56 AM (yzPgp)

280 277 What's the Mexican flag for? Anti-ICE? I guess this retard doesn't know that the vast majority of these illegals being rounded up aren't Mexican. They're from Guatemala, Honduras, Venezuela, etc.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:54 AM (iFTx/)


Well.. Mexico should be lauded.. After all they did let millions from these Countries cross their border to invade, I mean immigrate to the Us.. They deserve a flag in gratitude....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 10:57 AM (VE6XX)

281 I'm waiting until they all finally say the Confederate flag is cool again.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 10:57 AM (bvE4C)

282
And "ISIL"? Probably available on barackobama.com for Father's Day.
Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 10:56 AM (yzPgp)



"DAESH!!!"

- - - - - John "Reporting For Doody" Kerry

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 10:57 AM (Zz0t1)

283 His techniques for making a film image was in the same artistic vein as any painter with his paints and brushes. And there was no Photoshop back then.
Posted by: JTB


Not to be That Guy™, but there was. People played around with prints all the time. From 'colorized' prints to double exposure. Sure, that's not what you meant, but still....

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 10:57 AM (mlg/3)

284 What's the Mexican flag for? Anti-ICE? I guess this retard doesn't know that the vast majority of these illegals being rounded up aren't Mexican. They're from Guatemala, Honduras, Venezuela, etc.
Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:54 AM (iFTx/)

I assumed it was Tarriffs, same as Canada.
Who knows. These people are mentally ill. It doesn’t have to make any sense.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 10:57 AM (/CkK4)

285 The very same people who are deathly afraid of a ( non-existent ) Christian theocracy have no problem supporting a very real Islamic theocracy.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 10:58 AM (PiwSw)

286 No doubt Hogg loves this dude:

NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani slams US bombing of Iran nuclear sites: ‘Dark new chapter’

“Today’s unconstitutional military action represents a dark, new chapter in his endless betrayals that now threaten to plunge the world deeper into chaos,” said Mamdani, who has been closing the gap with frontrunner candidate Andrew Cuomo in recent polls. “In a city as global as ours, the impacts of war are felt deeply here at home.”


Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:58 AM (6o/o0)

287 It's going to end badly for the girls and SIL, and BIL for that matter. They are going to wonder why it all went to hell.
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My neighbors youngest daughter has decided she is gay and is headed to University of Alabama. My guess is she will have to adapt to new surroundings. My estimate is she is going full LUGZ and will come around. Her older daughter is shacked up with her black boyfriend. She has real issues. Crazy Quakers can fuck up a lot of minds.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 10:58 AM (FmapG)

288 Our table was right in front of the DJ... Ugh. Very loud ugh.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 23, 2025 10:43 AM (2J/Lj)
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I carry packs of disposable earplugs in the car's arm rest box just for such occasions.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 10:59 AM (NC42u)

289 286 No doubt Hogg loves this dude:

NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani slams US bombing of Iran nuclear sites: ‘Dark new chapter’

“Today’s unconstitutional military action represents a dark, new chapter in his endless betrayals that now threaten to plunge the world deeper into chaos,” said Mamdani, who has been closing the gap with frontrunner candidate Andrew Cuomo in recent polls. “In a city as global as ours, the impacts of war are felt deeply here at home.”


Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 10:58 AM (6o/o0)

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I'd vote for him if I could.

Because NYC deserves a more radical Bill DeBlasio.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

290 The very same people who are deathly afraid of a ( non-existent ) Christian theocracy have no problem supporting a very real Islamic theocracy.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 10:58 AM (PiwSw)

They don’t even think in those terms.

It’s lizard brain shit. Trump does X, we support the opposite of X. It could be Iran, child molesting illegals, doesn’t matter what it is. If Trump is against it they re for it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 23, 2025 11:00 AM (/CkK4)

291 281 I'm waiting until they all finally say the Confederate flag is cool again.
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You would think this is a natural given their big commitment to running slaves for the monied class.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 11:00 AM (FmapG)

292 >>Because NYC deserves a more radical Bill DeBlasio.

Become London 2.0

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:00 AM (6o/o0)

293 >I think it's legal. The 2001 AUMF is still in effect
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Should be one of the perks of being Preznit, you get to bomb the shit out of stuff

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 11:01 AM (AOsQT)

294 We in WW3 yet?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 23, 2025 11:01 AM (B9Prs)

295 Can someone explain why the war in Ukraine was an absolute necessity to Save Our Democracy(tm) but war with Iran is considered traitorous to the Democrats?
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They had money in the right places for Ukraine, and in the wrong places for Iran.

Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 11:01 AM (TN0g+)

296 *looks at NYC*

Soon.

Posted by: Snake Plissken at June 23, 2025 11:02 AM (PiwSw)

297 >Become London 2.0

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:00 AM (6o/o0)

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I know right
24 years from 9/11, NYC is gonna elect a muslim mayor

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 11:03 AM (AOsQT)

298 I saw a quote from a lefty think tank that insists “Death to America” is just a figure of speech. Riiiiight.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 23, 2025 11:03 AM (3cXfB)

299 NOOD

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)

300 >We in WW3 yet?
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gotta have the quagmire first

Posted by: Don Black. Message: dress that line, soldier at June 23, 2025 11:04 AM (AOsQT)

301 295 Can someone explain why the war in Ukraine was an absolute necessity to Save Our Democracy(tm) but war with Iran is considered traitorous to the Democrats?
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Cuz Lord Obama deemed Iran should be the Hegemon of the Middle East. Or, more correctly, Val Jar told him to deem that as the objective.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 11:04 AM (FmapG)

302 I think it's legal. The 2001 AUMF is still in effect

Nothing's legal until you get a 714-0 vote from the Federal district judges.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 11:04 AM (1q8GR)

303 Xanadu left a lot open for further movies. What did the other muses do while the whirlwind romance between the mains happened? Maybe one wasn't a roller disco fan and went and found some keg party in the sticks, fell in love with a biker and became a tattooed biker bitch. They could used skynard as the soundtrack.
One went to a subdivision where she fell in love with a hippy half way to yuppie and help him complete his transition by trading in his VW van for a BMW, getting a hair cut, taking a shower and finding a job at an upstart tech company. Afterwards she gives birth to a daughter named Jennifer. Robert Plant will be the soundtrack.

Posted by: Reforger at June 23, 2025 11:05 AM (LgDgc)

304 I assumed it was Tarriffs, same as Canada.
Who knows. These people are mentally ill. It doesn’t have to make any sense.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

If that's the case, and it's very plausible, something deep in the recesses of their brain decided it was better to not show their support for the Chinese by putting up the flag of the CCP.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 11:05 AM (Dv3i1)

305 Dear Beth Hall Davis,

What have you done to stop the slow-motion genocide of the Uyghurs happening in China right now? What have you done about the slavery in Qatar, where over 1000 perished building the spiffy new World Cup stadium? And more close to home, where is your concern for the children who've been trafficked over our open Southern border for years, with apparently 300k unaccounted for/missing?

If you really cared about current day Holocausts, you'd think this would have crossed your radar.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 11:06 AM (6o/o0)

306
I'm convinced that ALL high-end markets -- art, classic and exotic cars, wines, etc -- are money laundering and market manipulation.

Posted by: (There Can Be Only One) Elric Blade at June 23, 2025 10:50 AM


mattress stores

I can't imagine there's enough market demand for free-standing mattress stores

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2025 11:08 AM (tljrc)

307
throck buckmorton nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2025 11:09 AM (tljrc)

308 Dark, spooky.
Would not hang unless I had a dungeon.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 23, 2025 11:44 AM (t/2Uw)

The Morning Report — 6/ 23 /25

MidnightHammer.jpg

Good morning kids. Well, what's done is done, and now come the repercussions and ramifications both geopolitically and domestically. Since Israel decided to strike at the head of the snake in the wake of the October 7th attacks from Iran's proxy army Hamas in Gaza, the potential for direct American involvement against Iran was always a possibility. Even being a big Trump supporter, Jew and Israel booster, I was never sanguine about the prospect, even with Donald Trump as commander-in-chief, mostly because of our prior disasters and debacles by getting involved militarily in the Middle East, regardless of who was in the Oval Office. All that said, the hopefully complete or near complete destruction of Iran's nuclear weapons program, regardless of who did it, can only be viewed as a gigantic positive in terms of pulling the region and indeed the world back from the brink of armageddon, at least in the near term.

That said, I'm reminded of Craig T. Nelson's line from "Poltergeist" :

"You moved the headstones — but you left the bodies?!"

With this unrelated yet absolutely related story that is getting very little coverage because of the Iran strike and also because of the nature of the story itself and the media, no doubt gentle reader you will immediately see where I'm going with this.

At least 20 Christians were killed and 52 others were wounded on Sunday when a radical Islamic terrorist opened fire in an Orthodox church in Damascus, Syria, and then detonated an explosive vest, according to Syria’s interior ministry.

The terrorist, affiliated with ISIS, targeted Mar Elias Church in Dweila, on the outskirts of Damascus, the BBC reported. A person who witnessed the attack told AFP news agency that “someone entered carrying a weapon” and began firing at worshipers. A group of church members charged the attacker and “tried to stop him before he blew himself up,” the witness added.

So, what does this have to do with Iran? Everything. That is, everything that matters. First of all, the term "radical Islamic terrorist" is a triple redundancy but kudos at least for using the word Islamic and not Islamist which is obfuscatory by design. Substitute waves of Hamas attackers raping and maiming their way into southern Israel from Gaza or an IRGC missile crew firing off a nuclear tipped V-2 clone or No-Dong Big Schlong missile at Tel Aviv, et VIOLA as we say.

So, we may have destroyed Iran’s nuclear weapons capabilities, whatever the geopolitical and domestic repercussions. The problem was is and always has been – for over 1500 years and counting – ISLAM, Unless and until Islam reforms itself (a non-starter) or is otherwise neutralized, Civilization will still be at risk of being destroyed at some point down the road. When the #1 baby name across most of Europe is Mohammed, nuclear weapons is the least of our worries. Iran, or Turdogon's Turkey or the Saudis do not need nukes with several hundred million "Tiny Time Pills" in the form of immigrants/migrants spread out all over Europe and here in America. While far too many of the indigenous non-Muslim citizenry are willfully committing cultural suicide courtesy of Leftist/Socialist cultural rot eating away at the foundations of 2,000 years of the advancement of humanity via Judeo-Christianity and Western Civilization.

Lest we forget, Pakistan has nuclear weapons and shares a very long border with Iran so what's to stop them from helping the Mullahs reconstitute their nuke program or just give them one or two warheads. And as for Iran closing off the Straits of Hormuz, I imagine that would not include oil shipments to the Chi-Coms and/or NORKs, perhaps in exchange for a few small tactical warheads. What if Iran had a missile or even a boat with an Islamikaze crew and a warhead heading at ramming speed towards a US Aircraft carrier parked off Israel or in the Gulf. Remember the USS Cole incident post 9/11?

So, now that the hornet's nest has been kicked, what's next? I think the IRGC is too vested both in Islam and conventional internal power politics to ever willingly cede power to any other party, certainly none that are not Islamic in nature and for sure not the scion of the late Shah or any pro-western moderate secular party.

Even if Khameni and some or all of his associates are forced out, the Iranian people will still have a giant rusty scimitar at their throats. Wish I could be more upbeat about their prospects, and then again, I'm no expert and have no inside dope on the Iranian street, but all things being equal, unless they are armed to the teeth and/or have significant police and army personnel willing to help them seize power across the nation, get ready for Islamic Republic 2.0.


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Police told Click on Detroit that a security guard at Wayne, Michigan’s CrossPointe Community Church shot and killed an alleged active shooter Sunday morning. The City of Wayne Police Department posted to Facebook, “The Wayne Police Department responded to an active shooter at Crosspointe Church in Wayne this morning. Upon arrival, officers determined that a security guard for the church shot and killed the suspect.”

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1 Happy Monday

thxjjs

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 07:21 AM (gbOdA)

2 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 07:23 AM (Q4IgG)

3 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at June 23, 2025 07:23 AM (53oGX)

4 Thank you JJ and good morning to the day walking horde

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:23 AM (kKPAi)

5 Good morning

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at June 23, 2025 07:23 AM (Hpgos)

6 With his "MIGA" tweet, can Trump get elected Supreme Leader in Iran?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:26 AM (kKPAi)

7 We probably should not have attacked the Japanese because that just provoked them.

Posted by: fd at June 23, 2025 07:26 AM (vFG9F)

8
Police told Click on Detroit that a security guard at Wayne, Michigan’s CrossPointe Community Church shot and killed an alleged active shooter Sunday morning.

One of those Trad Catholics the FBI was worried about before Trump pulled them off the case. The blood is on his hands!!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:27 AM (QnmlO)

9 “Our hearts go out to the victims and families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran,” the department wrote on X Sunday in a now-deleted post.
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I suppose we should assume "stupid" and not "malign", but this needs to be investigated.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:29 AM (kKPAi)

10 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 07:30 AM (ExV1e)

11 Happy Monday all. Wait… is that possible?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 07:30 AM (6RwsA)

12 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (5WDkb)

13 So, now that the hornet's nest has been kicked, what's next?

From what I’ve read this morning the Israelis think they have good intelligence on where Iran is storing their stockpiles of enriched uranium.

I would think that would be the first order of business in trying to settle this thing before that stuff gets put on top of a missile or taken out of the country and smuggled somewhere we don’t want it to be.

I’ve always had that worry in the back of my mind on where the uranium went.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (6ydKt)

14
LA Sheriff’s department deletes posts calling US airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear sites ‘tragic’ following backlash

I'd like to think this is the work of some DEI communications hire instead of going out with the imprimatur of the sheriff. But you never know nowadays.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (QnmlO)

15 BTW… regarding Pakistan, I don’t think they’ll ever be chummy with Iran. Sunni Islam is the preferred sect in Pakistan; Shia in Iran. Those two groups are generally at each other’s throats…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (6RwsA)

16 Brother-loving Ilhan Omar:

Sleep in comfort, knowing I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system
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She doesn't even try hiding her allegiance

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:33 AM (kKPAi)

17
Oh, and (*hastily puts on clothes*) good morning, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:33 AM (QnmlO)

18 ...when the futuristic B-2 stealth bombers ...

The B-2 is over thirty-five years old.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:35 AM (a4flb)

19 Caitlan Clark should marry, have kids and leave the WNBA to sink to its true level.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 07:35 AM (rJ48h)

20 BTW… regarding Pakistan, I don’t think they’ll ever be chummy with Iran. Sunni Islam is the preferred sect in Pakistan; Shia in Iran. Those two groups are generally at each other’s throats…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (6RwsA)
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I tend to agree. Besides, I doubt Pakistan wants to be sandwiched between two hostile nuclear powers, one of which is just crazy enough to let them fly in Pakistan's direction once Israel is destroyed.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 07:35 AM (7fElN)

21 Happy Monday, one and all. It's going to be miserably hot here in the GPROMD and I am quietly appreciative of the wonders of air conditioning.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 07:36 AM (svLOV)

22 I'd like to think this is the work of some DEI communications hire instead of going out with the imprimatur of the sheriff. But you never know nowadays.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (QnmlO)
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Of course you know!

https://tinyurl.com/4vfnsdw2

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 07:36 AM (NC42u)

23 Caitlan Clark should marry, have kids and leave the WNBA to sink to its true level.
Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 07:35 AM (rJ48h)

She might make a good coach, one day.
If she ever gets tired of the grind she’s being put through.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:36 AM (6ydKt)

24 Biden caught and released 1500 undocumented, uninvestigated, and untracked Iranians into America. Lord only knows how many others walked in and were never even in contact with INS or border agents.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:36 AM (kKPAi)

25 Operation Midnight Hammer

Sounds like a black porno.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 07:37 AM (ExV1e)

26
Happy Monday, one and all. It's going to be miserably hot here in the GPROMD and I am quietly appreciative of the wonders of air conditioning.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 07:36 AM (svLOV)


*whiny voice*

The Europeans don't use air conditioning!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:37 AM (QnmlO)

27 16 Brother-loving Ilhan Omar:

Sleep in comfort, knowing I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system
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She doesn't even try hiding her allegiance
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:33 AM (kKPAi)


Recall Minnesota redesigning its state flag...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 07:38 AM (x0n13)

28 ‘Trump Is a Terrorist’ — Thousands of Leftists Protest Iran Strikes Ahead of Hague NATO Summit

NATO should kick us out. That'd show us.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 07:39 AM (ExV1e)

29 Police told Click on Detroit that a security guard at Wayne, Michigan’s CrossPointe Community Church shot and killed an alleged active shooter Sunday morning.

When you see the word "alleged" in a sentence, it translates precisely to "Democrat".

When talking about Trump and MAGA "crimes", there is never the word "alleged" anywhere in the story - its always communicated as an absolute, undisputed, non nuanced fact.

Here we have an active shooter, there is nothing alleged about it.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:40 AM (a4flb)

30 I do wonder if the Fordow site was truly destroyed.

Have the IC been able to get eyes on the ground to confirm it?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 23, 2025 07:40 AM (ZmEVT)

31 In a march to the Peace Palace in The Hague on Sunday, demonstrators were heard chanting "Fuck NATO"

Well, bye.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 07:40 AM (ULPxl)

32 What if a leftist says it’s bad to criminalize transgender mutilation because it infringes on parental rights?

We ignore them and push forward. Next question?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 07:40 AM (svLOV)

33 Which version of a nuke were the Iranians pursuing? NorKo, Paki, French, Russian??

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 07:40 AM (g47mK)

34 good morning JJ, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 23, 2025 07:41 AM (S+xxD)

35 > Biden caught and released 1500 undocumented, uninvestigated, and untracked Iranians into America. Lord only knows how many others walked in and were never even in contact with INS or border agents.

Posted by: Huck Follywood
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I'll bet the actual number is higher. But, the total number of "Middle Eastern" men, mostly so-called fighting age and single, is in the 10's of thousands. And I bet quite a number of them are itching for a fight.

All they need is a signal to go to it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 07:41 AM (Q4IgG)

36 I watched the Sunday morning shows yesterday for the first time in ages. Kristen Welker, Margaret Brennan, Jonathan Karl… these people are pathetic. A yyuuggee falloff from my memories of Tim Russert, Bob Schieffer, David Brinkley (who were better at hiding their biases and had higher than room temp IQs. They really are awful

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 07:42 AM (i5Vkf)

37
‘Trump Is a Terrorist’ — Thousands of Leftists Protest Iran Strikes Ahead of Hague NATO Summit

We have nothing in common with these people any longer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:42 AM (QnmlO)

38 A U.S. district judge escalated her attack on executive authority to control immigration on Friday by indefinitely blocking the Trump administration from revoking Harvard University’s ability to enroll foreign students.
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A "district judge"?

No! She is President Of The United States! Please do not be insurrectionist and disagree with her.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:43 AM (ILpbr)

39 28 ‘Trump Is a Terrorist’ — Thousands of Leftists Protest Iran Strikes Ahead of Hague NATO Summit
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NATO should kick us out. That'd show us.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 07:39 AM (ExV1e)

I see I am still too slow.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 07:43 AM (ULPxl)

40 18 ...when the futuristic B-2 stealth bombers ...

The B-2 is over thirty-five years old.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:35 AM (a4flb)


"Pfft!"


- - The Late Jack Northrop and his XB-35/YB 49

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 07:44 AM (x0n13)

41 Obviously, the guy shooting up the church will be labeled, "No known motive."

Which means Islam.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 07:44 AM (tT6L1)

42 My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

Justifying not only the bombing, but everything MAGA has been saying about vastly limiting immigration.

Way to go, guys. Way to think that one out.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 07:45 AM (jzzLU)

43 If we leave NATO, Poland is going to say "oh shit."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 23, 2025 07:45 AM (ZmEVT)

44 Morning all. Eventful weekend.

Thanks again, J.J. for all your hard work.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 07:45 AM (tT6L1)

45 I watched the Sunday morning shows yesterday for the first time in ages.

I'm disappointed in you. Didn't your parents raise you better?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:45 AM (a4flb)

46 ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ for Illegals Proposed by Florida AG (Let's test it out on the DNC first - jjs)

Alligators will not eat DNC, too full of shit.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 07:45 AM (gbOdA)

47 31 In a march to the Peace Palace in The Hague on Sunday, demonstrators were heard chanting "Fuck NATO"

Well, bye.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 07:40 AM (ULPxl)


Wait until the Dutch find out their Capital was named after Alexander Hague!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 07:46 AM (x0n13)

48 Why would …. a county Sheriff’s department opine on something like this in the first place?

Stay in your lane, LA county. Are there perhaps issues and concerns a bit closer to LA county that LA county should be concerning itself

Posted by: Common Tater at June 23, 2025 07:47 AM (SSuxC)

49
My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

"The Foreign Minister of Germany once said to me 'your country does not dare do anything against Germany, because we have in your country five hundred thousand German emigrants who will rise in arms against your government if you dare to make a move against Germany.' Well, I told him that that might be so, but that we had five hundred thousand - and one - lamp posts in this country, and that that was where the emigrants would be hanging the day after they tried to rise." - James W. Gerard, Ambassador to Germany, 1913-1917

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:48 AM (QnmlO)

50 "45 I watched the Sunday morning shows yesterday for the first time in ages."

That would be tantamount to waterboarding for me. No exaggeration.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 07:48 AM (x2CMu)

51 He's a terrible candidate- who unfortunately- has a lot of money behind him, has a huge social media presence and is a good speaker and is an attractive man who would be a disaster for NYC Mayor , but I did laugh when the "NY Post" editors called Zohran Mandani a "lefty 'it' boy and a "failed rapper."who was boo-hooing the bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 07:48 AM (2GCMq)

52 In a march to the Peace Palace in The Hague on Sunday, demonstrators were heard chanting "Fuck NATO"

And yet they aren't "stooges of Putin".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:48 AM (a4flb)

53 LA Sheriff’s department deletes posts calling US airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear sites ‘tragic’ following backlash

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With the advent curse of social media, I guess it's now a must that every group/company/society/organization everywhere must enthrall us with their political hot takes on every single thing that happens. Even supposed apolitical departments such as this. Shut your mouths and just be concerned with doing your jobs instead of shoving your noses into every political situation to fly your virtue signals.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:48 AM (qBdHI)

54 >“Our hearts go out to the victims and families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran,” the department wrote on X Sunday in a now-deleted post.

Quite a tell here.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 23, 2025 07:49 AM (rJ48h)

55 "We have nothing in common with these people any longer."

America needs to cut bait on the woke warmongers of NATO.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 23, 2025 07:49 AM (S+xxD)

56 Why would …. a county Sheriff’s department opine on something like this in the first place?

LA is a beachhead for Anti-American/Communist forces.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:50 AM (a4flb)

57
Why would …. a county Sheriff’s department opine on something like this in the first place?

The more an entity comments on something extraneous to their mission, you can be sure they're doing their job badly.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:50 AM (QnmlO)

58 US embassy is telling Americans in Qatar to shelter in place.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 07:50 AM (viF8m)

59 "45 I watched the Sunday morning shows yesterday for the first time in ages."

That would be tantamount to waterboarding for me. No exaggeration.
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 07:48 AM (x2CMu)

It was brutal… think I’ll avoid for another 15 years

Margaret Brennan is the absolute worst. Ugh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 07:51 AM (i5Vkf)

60 Bang bang Midnight Golden Hammer came down upon their heads.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 23, 2025 07:51 AM (3ImbR)

61 Funny that the PA church shooter-upper wasn't even named.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:51 AM (qBdHI)

62 The B-2 may be 35 years old but nobody else has anything close to it.

The Russians and Chinese have stealth fighters.

The Chinese are supposed to be working on their own version; the Xi'an H-20, but it’s not been revealed yet.

We are supposed to be getting our new stealth bombers from Northrop Grumman, the B-21 Raider, in a few years, supposedly in ‘27.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:52 AM (6ydKt)

63
The fake "weather" channels/websites are so excited to start their fake "death toll" count for the heat wave, and use the phrase "extreme temperatures" as often as possible.

ANYONE who dies in the next week will be counted as a "heat-related" death.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 07:52 AM (r0L7U)

64 Mornin’, All. Happy Monday,

JJ, the Cole bombing was in 2000, hence pre-, not post-9/11.

Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 07:52 AM (gPIx3)

65 Sleep in comfort, knowing I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system
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She doesn't even try hiding her allegiance
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:33 AM (kKPAi)

Talked about but never proven that she lied to get here? If so, why is she still here?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 23, 2025 07:53 AM (0eaVi)

66 America needs to cut bait on the woke warmongers of NATO.

The MIC and NATO need each other. Clearly, the MIC has more political prominence than any We The People collective.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:53 AM (a4flb)

67 WMD !!! WMD!!! WMD!
Wasn't JJ always a big believer in Saddam having workable WMDs ???

Wasn't he always a big believer when Bush was telling us the same lies about a complete success?
No signs of increased radiation after complete destruction ? Is that even possible?

Should we believe DJT? Has he ever lied to us before?

Well this bombing should clarify what nation is in possession of all those Epstein videos. Not that we will be hearing much more about Epstein from either his papers or videos.
Epstein was a welcome guest at Market A Laho for TWO years AFTER his arrest and conviction








Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 23, 2025 07:53 AM (J5lvw)

68 Sunday morning shows. LOL.

Posted by: Most people at June 23, 2025 07:54 AM (rqEUB)

69 > My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.
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I think if they are here, in any number, they'll have a fairly deep pool of supporters. 10's of thousands of brainwashed college kids for one. Thousands more of everyday, leftists.

They 'could' cause chaos.

I imagine this is one thing the authorities are aware of. At least I hope so.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 07:54 AM (Q4IgG)

70 Well, I told him that that might be so, but that we had five hundred thousand - and one - lamp posts in this country, and that that was where the emigrants would be hanging the day after they tried to rise.

Back when we had men who were not afraid to say things like that.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 07:54 AM (svLOV)

71 “Our hearts go out to the victims and families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran,” the department wrote on X Sunday in a now-deleted post.

==

Maybe it isn't very generous of me, but I highly doubt the wording used here. Their "hearts go out...?" Not for one minute are these people really mourning any of these individuals. I just find those kinds of statements so empty, perfunctory and void of anything real.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:55 AM (qBdHI)

72
The fake "weather" channels/websites are so excited to start their fake "death toll" count for the heat wave, and use the phrase "extreme temperatures" as often as possible.

"Extreme temperatures" are what we used to call "Summer".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:55 AM (QnmlO)

73 I was at a Yankee game on a July 4th in the bleachers, when suddenly everyone else in the stadium was staring in the direction of the bleachers.

Then a Death Star B-2 flew directly over us at low altitude. Ho Lee Fuk!

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 23, 2025 07:56 AM (Gqoy+)

74 Well, I told him that that might be so, but that we had five hundred thousand - and one - lamp posts in this country, and that that was where the emigrants would be hanging the day after they tried to rise.

Back when we had men who were not afraid to say things like that.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 07:54 AM (svLOV)
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How many of those German immigrants to America left Germany to get away from their homeland and start a new life as Americans?

They were a different kind of immigrant back in those days.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 07:56 AM (7fElN)

75 Yeah that’s it, Trump bombed Fordow because of Jeffrey Epstein.

I really have to wonder about some people’s sanity.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:58 AM (6ydKt)

76 The fake "weather" channels/websites are so excited to start their fake "death toll" count for the heat wave, and use the phrase "extreme temperatures" as often as possible.

--

I'm surprised they haven't started naming the heat waves to give the appearance of being constantly bombarded with them. This week will be Heatwave Anna traversing the country and claiming victim after victim.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:58 AM (qBdHI)

77 They were a different kind of immigrant back in those days.

For starters, they were vetted. Communists and Anarchists got sent back.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 07:58 AM (svLOV)

78
Then a Death Star B-2 flew directly over us at low altitude. Ho Lee Fuk!
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 23, 2025 07:56 AM (Gqoy+)


Some years ago, the Super Bowl was played at NRG Stadium here in Houston. We live about 25 miles due south of there and the planes in the flyover came over the house very low. I thought the roof was going to come down.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:58 AM (QnmlO)

79 Biden issued new asylum rules in 2023, removing eligibility for people illegally entering the U.S. without seeking protection in transit countries. This caused the backlog in immigration courts to grow to a record 3.7 million cases, with many migrants released into the U.S. pending hearings years away.

An AI Chatbot could review these cases in a matter of months.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 07:59 AM (gbOdA)

80 Talked about but never proven that she lied to get here? If so, why is she still here?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 23, 2025 07:53 AM (0eaVi)
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Never proven? Maybe "never prosecuted" but definitely proven

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:59 AM (rNnFT)

81 The B-2 may be 35 years old but nobody else has anything close to it.

In a practical sense, the B-2 has only one mission profile that is unique to it: deliver the MOP.

No one on planet earth is going to hurl a nuke at anyone - mainly because there is a lot of doubt that any would work as advertised, and the concept of MAD still exists.

The future is cyber-attacks, money-manipulation, propaganda, asymmetrical warfare, drones and the Enemy Within - mostly the latter.

The long range bomber is becoming this generation's dreadnaught battleship.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:59 AM (a4flb)

82 Never proven? Maybe "never prosecuted" but definitely proven
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:59 AM (rNnFT)

Then, what is Mike Johnson waiting for?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 23, 2025 08:00 AM (0eaVi)

83 >>I was at a Yankee game on a July 4th in the bleachers, when suddenly everyone else in the stadium was staring in the direction of the bleachers.

>>Then a Death Star B-2 flew directly over us at low altitude. Ho Lee Fuk!

Before the Democrat lockdowns they used to run an airshow out of Quonset. We used to sit on a boat and the aircraft would rip up and down the bay overhead.


One year they brought both a B2 and a stealth fighter. All of the stuff was impressive but those two looked like something out of a scifi movie.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 08:00 AM (viF8m)

84








Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 23, 2025 07:53 AM (J5lvw)

I could not agree more!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:01 AM (gbOdA)

85 Maybe it isn't very generous of me, but I highly doubt the wording used here. Their "hearts go out...?" Not for one minute are these people really mourning any of these individuals. I just find those kinds of statements so empty, perfunctory and void of anything real.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:55 AM (qBdHI)

It’s standard pageant girl speak.

I suspect the LA Sheriff’s office let the 20 year old girl DEI hire intern control the social media accounts over the weekend and she got way over skis trying to impress her friends back at UCLA.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 08:01 AM (6ydKt)

86 Morning, news folken,

Someone on the Tech Thread yesterday suggested that watching the loons on The View this morning, to see their unhinged reaction to the bombing of Iran, might be entertaining if not instructive. Fortunately I won't be tempted; I have better things to do.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 08:02 AM (omVj0)

87 One year they brought both a B2 and a stealth fighter. All of the stuff was impressive but those two looked like something out of a scifi movie.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 08:00 AM (viF8m)

I saw what I thot was a mini space shuttle coming back from Death Valley into Lost Wages. It was the 117.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:02 AM (gbOdA)

88 Biden issued new asylum rules in 2023, removing eligibility for people illegally entering the U.S. without seeking protection in transit countries. This caused the backlog in immigration courts to grow to a record 3.7 million cases, with many migrants released into the U.S. pending hearings years away.

An AI Chatbot could review these cases in a matter of months.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 07:59 AM (gbOdA)


I could put something in place in under a minute. Nice room with a whiteboard at the front with 'denied' written on it. Just conga line them through.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 08:02 AM (ExV1e)

89 I wonder if the LA County Sheriff's Department will send condolences to the families of any Americans killed by Iranian sleeper cells?

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:02 AM (x2CMu)

90 My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

Justifying not only the bombing, but everything MAGA has been saying about vastly limiting immigration.

Way to go, guys. Way to think that one out.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie



Not a good time to be in the US and look "swarthy".

Hundreds of thousands of hunters are having the off season itch. Still another 4+ months to deer season. Go ahead. Give them a legitimate reason.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:03 AM (5WDkb)

91 I almost numchucked you, you don't even realize!

HEY MOM! CAN WE GET SOME MEATLOAF?
Mom! The meat loaf! Fuck! What is she doing back there? I never know what she's doing.

Posted by: Aliasassheadasshead at June 23, 2025 08:03 AM (PzyNU)

92 "Extreme temperatures" are what we used to call "Summer".

Hearing "Extreme Temperatures"™ when the outside mercury is in the low 90s is comforting to me because i know the definition of the word "extreme", and if what we have Right Now is "extreme" it can't really get any hotter.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:04 AM (a4flb)

93 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at June 23, 2025 08:04 AM (rqEUB)

94 From the Tech thread (second video courtesy of Soothsayer).

Margaret Brennan is a silly twit, and she gets her due:

https://tinyurl.com/5b9vm23u

https://is.gd/rgnUZs

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 08:05 AM (rNnFT)

95 No one on planet earth is going to hurl a nuke at anyone - mainly because there is a lot of doubt that any would work as advertised,

and the concept of MAD still exists.



Except in muslim minds.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:05 AM (5WDkb)

96 'We Came, We Saw, He Died': Dems' Breathtaking Hypocrisy On War Powers
https://tinyurl.com/4knrsuyp

Nice summary of how the Ds were all on board with Obama/Hillary bombing Libya without a "by your leave" from Congress thus taking out Kaddafi with extreme prejudice.

"It's right when we do it."

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 23, 2025 08:05 AM (Gqoy+)

97 The future is cyber-attacks, money-manipulation, propaganda, asymmetrical warfare, drones and the Enemy Within - mostly the latter.

The long range bomber is becoming this generation's dreadnaught battleship.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 07:59 AM



True, but I suspect the B-21 will still come in handy if you need to bomb a data center, electric plant, or drone control facility.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 08:05 AM (6ydKt)

98 My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

So are the "Left" just wish-casting or do they have inside information as to Iran's plan?

Either way, they seem to be enemy combatants, and if we believe their rhetoric, Iran and their co-conspirators, the Left, have declared war on We The People.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:06 AM (a4flb)

99 "Margaret Brennan is a silly twit, and she gets her due:"

But it doesn't stop or even slow her. Week after week, she's a little perpetual engine of idiocy.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:06 AM (x2CMu)

100 I was telling my husband that I wonder if the B-2 was the "alien aircraft" that people saw flying in the sky from Groom Lake when they were test flying.

Posted by: Megthered at June 23, 2025 08:07 AM (GOJbT)

101 Iran is reportedly weighing blocking a key commercial choke point known as the Strait of Hormuz, a move that could drive up energy costs in the U.S. and across the globe, according to energy sector experts.

If we only had something to store vast amounts of oil to use in emergencies. Maybe something like the Strategic Oil Reserve.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:08 AM (gbOdA)

102 The Air Force sent along some F22's and F35's along with the B2's, just to impress us.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 08:08 AM (rNnFT)

103 My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

The left: We must permit Iran to conduct terrorist attacks against our interests because if we strike back they may conduct terrorist attacks against our interests.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 08:08 AM (ExV1e)

104 Today is National Pecan Sandies Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 08:09 AM (NpAcC)

105 I'm reminded that this is the fiftieth anniversary of the premiere of Jaws. The future Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 and I went to see it. The lines were long and the theatre was packed; we had to sit in the *second row.* Imagine watching that film for the first time with the shark pretty much in your lap.

We had a coverlet on the bed with a big orange sunburst design . . . sharp triangular spikes. Half asleep that night, I caught a glimpse of one such spike and jerked awake, believing that it was a gigantic shark tooth.

The same thing happened with Jurassic Park twenty years later. Remember the rumbling breathing of the raptors as they hunted? My cat Arizona liked to sleep on the pillow next to my head, and I jerked awake at his purr, thinking I was being hunted by dinosaurs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 08:10 AM (omVj0)

106 The more an entity comments on something extraneous to their mission, you can be sure they're doing their job badly.

When the lunatic mayor or whack job governess talks about Fine-tuning The Weather 100 Years From Now.

They’ve managed to create 2 or 3 completely neurotic and hysterical generations with their oft-repeated suggestions of impending doom. I think we’re witnessing the fruits of the long-running Psy-Op campaign. Completely and utterly broken people. Remember this is more or less a permanent condition.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 23, 2025 08:10 AM (SSuxC)

107 An AI Chatbot could review these cases in a matter of months.

With hundreds of millions of internet connected mobile devices, this could be done in parallel - this is not a nine women making a baby in one month problem - this could literally be performed in seconds.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:10 AM (a4flb)

108 Gas prices at pump to increase, markedly… wait for it…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:10 AM (PCK5/)

109 Oh, sure. Easy for you to say.

Posted by: Nine pregnant women at June 23, 2025 08:11 AM (rqEUB)

110 Morning Horde, thx JJ
When you wrote they targeted Mar Elias, I thought it said Marc Elias. I would have been ok with that.
On the course it s already 82°and humid. Yuck

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 08:12 AM (IG2sK)

111 My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

So are the "Left" just wish-casting or do they have inside information as to Iran's plan?

Either way, they seem to be enemy combatants, and if we believe their rhetoric, Iran and their co-conspirators, the Left, have declared war on We The People.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

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Oh, I'm certain there are. It's no different than the vast number of Chinese student-spies, the Indian H1Bs seizing control of tech and being the lead at programming AI that will control America, etc.

It's not that we've been invaded, but that our politicians arranged the invasion.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 08:12 AM (jzzLU)

112 My favorite one is Iran and the left saying that now sleeper cells in the U.S. will be activated in retaliation.

Justifying not only the bombing, but everything MAGA has been saying about vastly limiting immigration.

Way to go, guys. Way to think that one out.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025


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Short-term solution: lead gifts for anybody who tries "retaliation." Long-term solution: deportation.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 08:12 AM (omVj0)

113 We took the kids to the Rose Parade a few years ago. The highlight by far was the B2 flyover at the beginning… the crowd gasped.

The floats meh…. Oh and I froze my nuts that morning. Having watched that parade for years on TV from the frozen Midwest when I was a kid it was surprising how cold it could feel in Pasadena on new years morning

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 08:13 AM (i5Vkf)

114 Gas prices at pump to increase, markedly… wait for it…
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025


***
They've already jumped .25 since last week. I'd better feed the car today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 08:13 AM (omVj0)

115 The B-2 is over thirty-five years old.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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It's strange how military tech stays in service much longer than it did 100 or so years ago. Planes and tanks back then would be obsolete and pulled from service within 10 or 15 years at most.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 08:13 AM (ITkJX)

116 76 The fake "weather" channels/websites are so excited to start their fake "death toll" count for the heat wave, and use the phrase "extreme temperatures" as often as possible.

--

I'm surprised they haven't started naming the heat waves to give the appearance of being constantly bombarded with them. This week will be Heatwave Anna traversing the country and claiming victim after victim.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:58 AM (qBdHI)

100 quatloos they do this. Then they can scream crap like, "This is the umpteenth extreme heat wave this year, beginning with Anna in June!"

And, "Extreme Heat Wave Milton is much worse than Extreme Heat Wave Isaac! We all remember that heat wave! Millions died!"

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 08:14 AM (aBgBM)

117 Good morning, Sunshines!

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:14 AM (PRqXW)

118 Kids these days...

Posted by: B-52s at June 23, 2025 08:15 AM (rqEUB)

119 Iran is reportedly weighing blocking a key commercial choke point known as the Strait of Hormuz, a move that could drive up energy costs in the U.S. and across the globe, according to energy sector experts.

That seems more of a China/Europe/Middle East problem than a US problem.

How is it that Brazil, Mexico and Canada are not freaking out about a hypothetical SoH blockade?

Is it that we have better MIC propaganda propagation than other countries? We sure as hell have a LOT of people within these borders who are salivating at yet another multi-generational war grift to come on the heels of Afghanistan and the Ukraine/Russia lover's quarrel.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:15 AM (a4flb)

120 Apparently, quite a few people on social media were surprised to learn that the B-2 has a bunk, a toilet and a microwave oven on board.

(These people vote).

Posted by: one hour sober at June 23, 2025 08:15 AM (Y1sOo)

121 Piper, awesome content on the ONT. Thanks.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (ZIggv)

122
Fidel and Che' would be all like "Hey, dial back the commies hate America" shit if they were in L.A. government today.

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (j4U/Z)

123 Beau Biden died in Extreme Heat Wave Isaac.

Posted by: Not a joke at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (rqEUB)

124 >>It's not that we've been invaded, but that our politicians arranged the invasion.

Yesterday on X governors of sanctuary states like Walz and Hochul were warning their citizens to on guard against terror attacks from sleeper cells that they have welcomed into their states.

Of course if an attack does come it will be Trump's fault for taking away Iran's nuclear capability and not theirs for sheltering terrorists and their mindless followers will bleat that Trump is Hitler. Half the country has the intelligence and reasoning ability of pre-schoolers.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (viF8m)

125 Thank you, Ben Had! You are too good to me.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (PRqXW)

126 The argument is that the jihadists will be more jihadi now than they were before because theyre annoyed? So a "sleeper cell" got less sleepy?

Posted by: Dagny at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (cnmSH)

127 On the first part of the very excellent Morning Update, I'd just counsel caution that in the Middle East there's always been a background of violence and terrorism. Let's be careful not to blame that background on recent events when they'd likely have happened anyway.

Reminds me of a lecture on Regression Analysis I attended. The prof was demonstrating the proper use of variables and used "instability in the Middle East" as an example. I pointed out to my cohort that it should be a constant, to a lot of very knowing chuckles...

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 08:17 AM (kKRwe)

128 And, "Extreme Heat Wave Milton is much worse than Extreme Heat Wave Isaac! We all remember that heat wave! Millions died!"

The scam will be perfected when Big Pharma gets blue government to mandate an Extreme Temperature Immunity Vaxx.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:17 AM (a4flb)

129 It’s the End of the World as We Know It ( and I Feel Fine)… or, Monday Morning..

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:17 AM (PCK5/)

130 Happy final week of Pride Month! Make the most of it.

I finished the week's grocery shopping, so I can miss the heatwave. Now on to the content.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 08:18 AM (od0dV)

131 This week will be Heatwave Anna traversing the country and claiming victim after victim.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 07:58 AM (qBdHI

I went to high school with her, and she hasn't changed a bit.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (kKRwe)

132 Paul A. Szypula
@Bubblebathgirl
Israel is now freeing political prisoners in Iran in order to hopefully spur a revolution and regime change there from within.

This is reportedly video of the entrance of Evin Prison in Tehran being blown open.

Many Iranians want peace.

Replace Khamenei!

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (NpAcC)

133 43 If we leave NATO, Poland is going to say "oh shit."
Posted by: no one of any consequence

Maybe the US enters into a military alliance with the few remaining western countries that haven't succumbed to globohomo, Poland, Hungary, Argentina, not sure if there others.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (Dv3i1)

134 If we only had something to store vast amounts of oil to use in emergencies. Maybe something like the Strategic Oil Reserve.

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I wonder how much of the reserves Trump has been able to refill. Six months isn't a lot of time to replenish what Biden depleted for his own political fortunes.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (qBdHI)

135
Yesterday on X governors of sanctuary states like Walz and Hochul were warning their citizens to on guard against terror attacks from sleeper cells that they have welcomed into their states.

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In a normal world, this would inspire a bit of thought as to WHY these warnings are needed, and then, as the thought path was wandered, the nexus between the sanctuary state status and the warning would be discovered. Next up would be questioning the efficacy of Dem leadership.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (PRqXW)

136 The Trump Doctrine (aka the Businessman’s Way of War)
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Herman Goering said we Americans wage war as if it was a business. Worked against him.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (od0dV)

137 A day or two before we attacked Iran the Army post here upped their security posture. A hint something was brewing.

It's still elevated.

Iranian or Iranian affiliated attacks on most anything they they think they can hit is apparently something of a concern.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 08:19 AM (Q4IgG)

138 Happy final week of Pride Month! Make the most of it.



Finals week????

And I didn't study!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:20 AM (5WDkb)

139 It is hot here in Missouri at the end of June… Quelle surprise!!! Sheesh….

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:20 AM (PCK5/)

140 Yesterday on X governors of sanctuary states like Walz and Hochul were warning their citizens to on guard against terror attacks from sleeper cells that they have welcomed into their states.

How is this any different when a Mob Boss recruits a number of Made Men, and then threatens shop owners with Visits From Vinney and Guido if they don't submit?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:20 AM (a4flb)

141 What would be hilarious is that the sleeper cells went native and decided they liked this country too much to do anything.

"Yeah, I got the message to attack but my kid has the flu and the boss needs this file by 10."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 08:21 AM (svLOV)

142 >>I wonder how much of the reserves Trump has been able to refill. Six months isn't a lot of time to replenish what Biden depleted for his own political fortunes.

Very little. It didn't get much coverage for obvious reasons but not only did Biden drain the SOR he did it in such a reckless manner he damaged the tanks and they have to be rebuilt before the SOR can be refilled.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 08:21 AM (viF8m)

143 and the concept of MAD still exists.

Except in muslim minds.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:05 AM (5WDkb)

Exactly. That's the whole premise of Trump's actions. These are theocratic fascists driven by eschatological delusions. Western leaders, stricken with their own madness of politically correct fear, have failed to educate their populaces about the nature of this enemy.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:21 AM (x2CMu)

144 106 The more an entity comments on something extraneous to their mission, you can be sure they're doing their job badly.

When the lunatic mayor or whack job governess talks about Fine-tuning The Weather 100 Years From Now.

They’ve managed to create 2 or 3 completely neurotic and hysterical generations with their oft-repeated suggestions of impending doom. I think we’re witnessing the fruits of the long-running Psy-Op campaign. Completely and utterly broken people. Remember this is more or less a permanent condition.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 23, 2025 08:10 AM (SSuxC)


You're right. Mainstream Media (and I expect all social media news feeds) is now little but constant alarms about natural disasters on-going, and coming next Friday, by end of winter, or in 10 years. Along with 'expert ' forecasts of more mass murders, more COVID, more OrangeManBad evil moves, yada, yada, yada.

Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 08:22 AM (aBgBM)

145 It's strange how military tech stays in service much longer than it did 100 or so years ago. Planes and tanks back then would be obsolete and pulled from service within 10 or 15 years at most.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 08:13 AM (ITkJX)
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I'm no expert but I believe that isn't the case. WW1 armaments were our principal weapons inventory as WW2 broke out. My grandfather was actually in a horse cavalry unit ninety or so years ago, which is sort of laughable when one considers what Germany was beginning yo unleash on Europe.

Lets not forget, too, the B52's that are still sn important system, sixty five years after introduction.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 08:22 AM (JN5c9)

146 *This week will be Heatwave Anna traversing the country and claiming victim after victim.*

Used to date her.

Posted by: It was brutal at June 23, 2025 08:22 AM (rqEUB)

147 FWIW, my company's campuses are on full security alert - searches of personal items (bags, etc).

We do DoD work and have been targeted in the past.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 08:23 AM (kKRwe)

148 141 What would be hilarious is that the sleeper cells went native and decided they liked this country too much to do anything.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 08:21 AM (svLOV)

I agree. It would be a good SNL skit, if they had any guts.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:23 AM (x2CMu)

149 Yesterday on X governors of sanctuary states like Walz and Hochul were warning their citizens to on guard against terror attacks from sleeper cells that they have welcomed into their states.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep. Remember. Miles to go before I sleep.

Posted by: Telefon at June 23, 2025 08:23 AM (PzyNU)

150
"Yeah, I got the message to attack but my kid has the flu and the boss needs this file by 10."

Sorry, this is my week in Cabo.

Posted by: Achmed Muhammad at June 23, 2025 08:25 AM (rqEUB)

151 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:25 AM (Zz0t1)

152 Yeah, it's Monday.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:25 AM (Zz0t1)

153 Very little. It didn't get much coverage for obvious reasons but not only did Biden drain the SOR he did it in such a reckless manner he damaged the tanks and they have to be rebuilt before the SOR can be refilled.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 08:21 AM (viF8m)


It's almost as if it were done in a manner to sabotage the US and make it harder for us to respond to global issues.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 08:25 AM (ExV1e)

154 Did they burn Oklahoma City down last night? Isn't that what you do when a team wins a championship?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:25 AM (Zz0t1)

155 Good morning!

Posted by: Everybody's Codetalking At gp at June 23, 2025 08:26 AM (t9lPv)

156 I agree. It would be a good SNL skit, if they had any guts.
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian


Yeah...the odds of that are small. We'd have to rely on Babylon Bee instead.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 08:26 AM (svLOV)

157 The B-2 is over thirty-five years old"

So? Think of a seventy year old fighter airplane...

*F8 Crusader enters the chat*

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 08:26 AM (tubbA)

158
No signs of increased radiation after complete destruction? Is that even possible?

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith


LOL, you stupid faggot!

This is the new WTC Building #7, you guys! The new "Not a drop of blood found in Pennsylvania from Flight #93," you guys!

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (r0L7U)

159 Oh, that's right; June is 75% over and done.

Not that July, August, or September will be much different as far as weather goes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (omVj0)

160 141 What would be hilarious is that the sleeper cells went native and decided they liked this country too much to do anything.

"Yeah, I got the message to attack but my kid has the flu and the boss needs this file by 10."
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 08:21 AM (svLOV)

This was a part of the plot of the series “ The Americans”, as the story developed…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (PCK5/)

161 It's strange how military tech stays in service much longer than it did 100 or so years ago. Planes and tanks back then would be obsolete and pulled from service within 10 or 15 years at most.

Its sort of like automobiles. Inexpensive cars only lasted 40-80k miles before the maintenance costs exceeded the purchase price of its replacement.

But the requirements to amp up the tech to make vehicles impossibly hard to buy and maintain which gave birth to the 10 year financing which needed a warranty of ten years to lure in suckers.

Essex class aircraft carrier $40M (1.2B in today's Monopoly Money). CVN-77 copy today $13.3B

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:28 AM (a4flb)

162 "The B-2 is over thirty-five years old"

Ahem.

Posted by: The USS Nimitz at June 23, 2025 08:28 AM (rqEUB)

163 Piper, awesome content on the ONT. Thanks.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 23, 2025 08:16 AM (ZIggv)


*Jan Brady voice on*

Piper ALWAYS gets the Sunday ONT attention now. Piper, Piper, PIPER!

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 08:29 AM (B5+rm)

164 With hundreds of millions of internet connected mobile devices, this could be done in parallel - this is not a nine women making a baby in one month problem - this could literally be performed in seconds.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:10 AM (a4flb)

Any of the DOGE people could get this working in days.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:29 AM (gbOdA)

165 Great debate. And I have a front row seat.

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 08:29 AM (AOsQT)

166 Just idly thinking.

Effectively, how old are "new" aircraft after they go through the development bureaucracies and committees...?

I'm thinking F-35.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 08:30 AM (CZjwE)

167 More Melania. Less Brits.

Posted by: Most guys at June 23, 2025 08:30 AM (rqEUB)

168 We've come along way from unfreezing billions in Iranian accounts while delivering pallets of untraceable Benjamins.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 23, 2025 08:30 AM (Gqoy+)

169 I'm no expert but I believe that isn't the case. WW1 armaments were our principal weapons inventory as WW2 broke out. My grandfather was actually in a horse cavalry unit ninety or so years ago, which is sort of laughable when one considers what Germany was beginning yo unleash on Europe.

Lets not forget, too, the B52's that are still sn important system, sixty five years after introduction.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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I'm talking about the period of, say, 1850 through the end of WWII. I'll concede small arms and artillery not changing significantly after the smokeless powder bolt action was perfected around 1900, and hydraulic recoil for artillery about the same time. Even the original Dreadnought was decommissioned and scrapped within 20 years.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 08:30 AM (ITkJX)

170 Did they burn Oklahoma City down last night? Isn't that what you do when a team wins a championship?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:25 AM (Zz0t1)


Seattle probably haz the sadz.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (B5+rm)

171 My grandfather was actually in a horse cavalry unit ninety or so years ago, which is sort of laughable when one considers what Germany was beginning yo unleash on Europe.



So was Germany. Last Crow war chief became a war chief by counting coup, stealing an enemy's weapon, successfully leading a war party & stealing an enemy's horse. (He stole 50 from the Nazis)

Joe Medicine Crow.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (5WDkb)

172 This was a part of the plot of the series “ The Americans”, as the story developed…
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (PCK5/)

I didn't realize that. I avoided the show. Is it worth it?

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (x2CMu)

173 This was a part of the plot of the series “ The Americans”, as the story developed…
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (PCK5/)

I didn't realize that. I avoided the show. Is it worth it?
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (x2CMu)

I liked it a lot.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (CZjwE)

174 The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep. Remember. Miles to go before I sleep.
Posted by: Telefon at June 23, 2025 08:23 AM (PzyNU)

Didn't 1 sleeper blow up a corn field or apple orchard that was a secret base 30 year past.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (gbOdA)

175 They were pallets of Euros.

Posted by: Axshuallee at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (rqEUB)

176 So? Think of a seventy year old fighter airplane...

I was referring to the word "futuristic" . No way does anyone call the B-52 or the Crusader "futuristic".

The first F-16 maiden flight was what? beginning of 1974?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (a4flb)

177
Seattle probably haz the sadz.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (B5+rm)



All of Shawn Kemp's kids should be of playing age by now. They can try again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (Zz0t1)

178 172 This was a part of the plot of the series “ The Americans”, as the story developed…
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (PCK5/)

I didn't realize that. I avoided the show. Is it worth it?
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (x2CMu

IMO, excellent, but dark, very dark.

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (PCK5/)

179 > "The B-2 is over thirty-five years old"
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The B-52's first flight was in 1952. It entered USAF service in '55. Those planes still flying, at least some of them, are getting new engines. Which will keep them flyable until the 2050's.

So, maybe one or more will mark a century of service.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 08:33 AM (Q4IgG)

180 It's strange how military tech stays in service much longer than it did 100 or so years ago. Planes and tanks back then would be obsolete and pulled from service within 10 or 15 years at most.
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Its sort of like automobiles. Inexpensive cars only lasted 40-80k miles before the maintenance costs exceeded the purchase price of its replacement.

-

I suspect it's worse than that and is tied much more to grifting and money laundering.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 08:33 AM (jzzLU)

181 US embassy is telling Americans in Qatar to shelter in place.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 07:50 AM (viF8m)

I really need to add my nephew, a fellow churchgoer, and a churchgoer's grandson to the AoS Prayer List. They're all in the middle of being deployed to the ME.

Posted by: pookysgirl, groggy froggy at June 23, 2025 08:34 AM (Wt5PA)

182
There was no mushroom cloud after we bombed!
Why was there no mushroom cloud, you guys??

Where is the mushroom cloud??

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 08:34 AM (0hZHN)

183 All of Shawn Kemp's kids should be of playing age by now. They can try again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (Zz0t1)


Haha!

Kemp and Payton were one of the best combos on the old NBA Jam video game. Boom Shaka Laka!

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 08:34 AM (B5+rm)

184 I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff. There may be a handful ready to throw their lives away for nothing, but the entire concept is a leftover fantasy from the Cold War of the 50’s. True fanatical jihadis would have attacked already.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 08:34 AM (e2MJJ)

185 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0
This can’t be real!!

She said she had a breakdown over us bombing Iran and had to quit her job.

https://tinyurl.com/ye28f8px

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 08:35 AM (NpAcC)

186 Lets not forget, too, the B52's that are still sn important system, sixty five years after introduction.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 08:22 AM (JN5c9)

They are using off the shelf private aircraft jets to build dual engine pods to keep them flying another 20 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA9q3VP55pU

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:35 AM (gbOdA)

187 There was no mushroom cloud after we bombed!
Why was there no mushroom cloud, you guys??

Where is the mushroom cloud??
Posted by: Soothsayer



Shouldn't need flashlights in the ME from all of the glow.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:35 AM (5WDkb)

188 Any of the DOGE people could get this working in days.

A drunk Vibe Programmer could get it done before sunset today.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:35 AM (a4flb)

189 *Jan Brady voice on*

Piper ALWAYS gets the Sunday ONT attention now. Piper, Piper, PIPER!
Posted by: Doof

Yes, Sunday ONT Doof has become the Chuck Cunningham of the site. Good luck in "college", Doof.

Posted by: Cousin Oliver at June 23, 2025 08:36 AM (G5+As)

190 Cant touch this
midnight hammer time
*does parachute pants dance*

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:36 AM (gbOdA)

191 A fact that surprised me is that the B-2 has just a 2-man crew.

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 08:37 AM (AOsQT)

192 184 I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff...
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 08:34 AM (e2MJJ)

You're probably right. We have more to fear from the wide-awake cells in our everyday politics and lives.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:37 AM (x2CMu)

193 I think theRabbi here is basically correct.

The danger now, like with the BLM riots, etc is that Democrat politicians are clearly willing to let their constituents suffer and their cities burn,

just to gain or maintain political power.

This sets up a kind of Co-operation between terrorists who would kill American citizens or destroy American cities and those Democrat pols responsible for protecting their citizens.

Live, healthy, happy citizens in Blue Cities are an impediment to Democrats power, so they must suffer for their sin of living in a nation with President Trump.

Evil folks simply because you know this is their equation.

Short read and worth it:

https://pjmedia.com/rabbi-michael-

barclay/2025/06/22/america-must-be-prepared-for-

attacks-from-iran-and-from-democrats-n4941060

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 08:37 AM (iJfKG)

194 In a deep-blue city where Democrats are used to wrapping up elections in June by default, this year might be different.
For a change, Primary Day won’t decide NYC’s next mayor (Meh, to expect the Dems to lose, regardless of the candidate, is fantasyland - jjs)
________
While the author has some Pollyannaisms, the thrust of the article seems that both the Crook and the Imam can still win, even if they lose the primary.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 08:37 AM (od0dV)

195 > I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff. There may be a handful ready to throw their lives away for nothing, but the entire concept is a leftover fantasy from the Cold War of the 50’s. True fanatical jihadis would have attacked already.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I think it's plausible. And worth having some OPSEC in place. The left is their friend. They were able to make L.A. look like Gaza with a bunch of agitated losers and some Mexicans on scooters.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 08:37 AM (Q4IgG)

196 Maybe the sleeper cells are in the government, hiding in plain sight…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:38 AM (PCK5/)

197 The first F-16 maiden flight was what? beginning of 1974?"

Wasn't that the "accidental" flight?

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 08:38 AM (tubbA)

198 Very clever song reference and good picture to go along with it, J.J., and thanks as always for your hard work and commentary.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 08:38 AM (2GCMq)

199 I'm thinking about a lawsuit against Trump for the Midnight Hammer thing. Only thing is, 2AM is the normal Naked Hammer Time around here.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Night Moves at June 23, 2025 08:38 AM (G5+As)

200 The first F-16 maiden flight was what? beginning of 1974?"

Wasn't that the "accidental" flight?


I think the official term is "unplanned"

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 23, 2025 08:39 AM (a4flb)

201 191 A fact that surprised me is that the B-2 has just a 2-man crew.
Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 08:37 AM (AOsQT)

And an outhouse

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 08:39 AM (gbOdA)

202 *Jan Brady voice on*

Piper ALWAYS gets the Sunday ONT attention now. Piper, Piper, PIPER!
Posted by: Doof

Yes, Sunday ONTDoof has become the Chuck Cunningham of the site. Good luck in "college", Doof.
Posted by: Cousin Oliver


That's Chuy level cruelty.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:39 AM (5WDkb)

203 I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff. There may be a handful ready to throw their lives away for nothing, but the entire concept is a leftover fantasy from the Cold War of the 50’s. True fanatical jihadis would have attacked already.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 08:34 AM (e2MJJ)
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Yeah, probably. How many of these "sleeper cells" are going to be activated by their Deep State handlers?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 08:39 AM (7fElN)

204 But Trump didn't 'holla' at Jasmine Crockett about the strikes in Iran, so IMPEECH!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:40 AM (Zz0t1)

205 I'm thinking about a lawsuit against Trump for the Midnight Hammer thing. Only thing is, 2AM is the normal Naked Hammer Time around here.
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Night Moves


Discovery would be a hoot, Paul.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:41 AM (5WDkb)

206 144 Trauma-based mind control works. It's effectiveness has been dialed to 11 by smart phones and social media.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 23, 2025 08:41 AM (S+xxD)

207 State Department issued a “ Worldwide Travel Caution Alert” for Americans… quite a rarity, it seems…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:42 AM (PCK5/)

208 180 It's strange how military tech stays in service much longer than it did 100 or so years ago. Planes and tanks back then would be obsolete and pulled from service within 10 or 15 years at most..”

I believe this seems “surprising” because the 20th century, and especially its technological progress, has given us a false idea about progress. We have this thought that all technology must advance forever; but in fact when a technological breakout happens, it advances quickly until it reaches the pinnacle of its expression, and then it plateaus until some new technological breakthrough happens.

The next big breakthrough in weaponry will likely be space based.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 08:44 AM (e2MJJ)

209 How funny is it that the Dems are pissed they weren't informed about the strikes, then it comes out that Schumer was involved and told none of his party.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 08:44 AM (Zz0t1)

210 I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff.

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I think it's probable that they're in place. I mean, we watched it with our own government in 2016-2024, the spy balloon, the vaxxine, etc. We know without a doubt it's happened with Indian H1Bs. There's no reason to believe Iran hasn't incorporated some similar strategy.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 08:45 AM (jzzLU)

211 Read through that AI article in the tech thread and it occurs to me that the Tech sector employee base made a really poor choice in latching their fortunes to the left.

Trump's voters want him to clamp down on illegal immigration and...he is.

The tech sector voters wanted fewer H1Bs and offshoring and the Biden junta gave them more of both. And I suspect while Trump will be better then the junta for them, only marginally so and it will not be a priority.

The coming AI whatever it is will certainly take away a lot of tech sector jobs however successful it ultimately will be. And there will be no one from the government or the industry itself to stop it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 08:45 AM (t0Rmr)

212 Doof, good morning. I know you love 80s rock, but you should know Flock of Seagulls has sided with Iran

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 23, 2025 08:46 AM (S+xxD)

213 I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff. There may be a handful ready to throw their lives away for nothing, but the entire concept is a leftover fantasy from the Cold War of the 50’s. True fanatical jihadis would have attacked already.
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I agree. Esp. the last line, 1000%.
It's just another in a long line of lies and bullshit the left has used to advance their evil.

I don't know how to articulate it succinctly, but for the how long has Iran promised retribution, attacks, death, destruction?
And every step of the way, holding their threats of blood and pain proudly high as a banner, is the left, demanding the world, Israel, the US all bow down and accede and capitulate to their demands.

Yesterday was a prime example: Iran threatens the shut the Strait of Hormuz.
The left panics the world with horror stories of economic collapse.
When the reality is 1) they can't, they don't have the resources, not even close 2) the whole world would turn against them, not just the US, 3) the US would crush their blockade in minutes and 4) most importantly, the blockade would cut off their own only source of revenue.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 08:46 AM (RpoEI)

214 How funny is it that the Dems are pissed they weren't informed about the strikes, then it comes out that Schumer was involved and told none of his party.
Posted by: Sponge


Bwahahahahahahaha!

Trump is a master at cutting out people. Now Schumer won't be trusted by his "side".

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:46 AM (5WDkb)

215 > I think the “sleeper cells” is another big bluff. There may be a handful ready to throw their lives away for nothing, but the entire concept is a leftover fantasy from the Cold War of the 50’s. True fanatical jihadis would have attacked already.

Maybe. Or maybe the supreme leader is keeping tighter grip on the leash after Trump's attack. Trump did warn him directly that if there were any counterattacks he is sending more bombs and this time they won't be targeting nuclear sites because they are all gone.

For the first time in nearly 5 decades the mullahs have to start worrying about losing their grip. Between the Israelis and Trump it seems pretty obvious they could obliterate the Iranian leadership whenever they wanted.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 08:46 AM (viF8m)

216 Yes, Sunday ONT Doof has become the Chuck Cunningham of the site. Good luck in "college", Doof.
Posted by: Cousin Oliver at June 23, 2025 08:36 AM (G5+As)


LOL! You may have have just earned Club ONT Comment of the Week honors.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 08:47 AM (B5+rm)

217 How was the NoVA MoMe?

Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:48 AM (gPIx3)

218 "Bang, Bang, Donald's Silver Hammer came down upon his head." (apologies to the Beatles)

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 23, 2025 08:48 AM (5xuJ/)

219 “Submit to God and be at peace with him; in this way prosperity will come to you.“

Job 22:21

Posted by: Marcus T at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (ibxva)

220 Yesterday was a prime example: Iran threatens the shut the Strait of Hormuz.



With floating mimes linked together.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (5WDkb)

221 Is it Fordo, Fordow, or Fordrow? My local news station has apparently become international political experts or something.

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (Oy/m2)

222 167 More Melania. Less Brits.
Posted by: Most guys at

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Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (PRqXW)

223 221 Is it Fordo, Fordow, or Fordrow? My local news station has apparently become international political experts or something.
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (Oy/m2)

Frodo, I believe… the other main site was Bilbo…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:50 AM (PCK5/)

224
You People aren't reading between the lines when they threaten us with "sleeper cells" acting out with violence.

What they mean by "sleeper cells" is "all muslims living in USA." But they can't come right out and call all muslims living in USA potential jihadi terrorists if given the motivation.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 08:50 AM (JeDAM)

225 Is it Fordo, Fordow, or Fordrow? My local news station has apparently become international political experts or something.
Posted by: dantesed


Fordow. Unless everyone has it wrong.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:50 AM (5WDkb)

226 Yesterday was a prime example: Iran threatens the shut the Strait of Hormuz.



With floating mimes linked together.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (5WDkb)
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Silent but deadly.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 08:50 AM (7fElN)

227 *Jan Brady voice on*

Piper ALWAYS gets the Sunday ONT attention now. Piper, Piper, PIPER!
Posted by: Doof


They do not want to experience my taste in music, Doof. You know this first hand. You are safe.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (PRqXW)

228 I saw Floating Mimes open for…

Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (gPIx3)

229 >> “The Wayne Police Department responded to an active shooter at Crosspointe Church in Wayne this morning. Upon arrival, officers determined that a security guard for the church shot and killed the suspect.”


America, f' yeah.
We protect our own churches and synagogues.
There will be no beheadings of the priest at the alter like in France.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (6o/o0)

230 Frodo, I believe… the other main site was Bilbo…

The preccccccious is in Iran?

/Angry confused self argument

Posted by: Gollum at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (t0Rmr)

231 How was the NoVA MoMe?
Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:48 AM (gPIx3)


A good time was had by all!

Go check out the Saturday "Club ONT on location" segment.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (B5+rm)

232 Midnight Hammer sounds like a Judas Priest album

Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (Q2PZf)

233 Is it Fordo, Fordow, or Fordrow? My local news station has apparently become international political experts or something.
Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM (Oy/m2)

Frodo, I believe… the other main site was Bilbo…
Posted by: tubal


And Mordor.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:52 AM (5WDkb)

234 Thomas Massie is becoming a darling of the Left.
He might as well change sides.

Thomas Massie says he feels "misled" by Trump after Iran strikes: "He’s engaged in war."

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (NpAcC)

235
Because if you think about it for a minute, you'll recognize the Democrat party has lots of militias at-the-ready. They have antifa goons, the blacks, the violent homos, the muslims, and the illegals.

Democrat party is the party of many jihadis, just waiting for orders to act.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (JeDAM)

236 Wayne, MI church shooter's mother is a member of the CrossPoint Community Church.

"The gunman, identified as Brian Anthony Browning, 31, did not have any previous contacts with local police or a criminal history, but may have been suffering a mental health crisis, the Wayne Police Department said in a news release."

Posted by: muldoon at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (poXs5)

237 Hasn’t Piper already been declared like Empress of the blog, or something?

Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (gPIx3)

238 Jasmine Crockett reportedly triggered by "MIGA"

Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (Q2PZf)

239 237 Hasn’t Piper already been declared like Empress of the blog, or something?
Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (gPIx3)

Not even close.

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (PRqXW)

240 The “news” organizations will never tell you this

The strategic oil reserve is located in old salt mines. It isn’t intended or designed to be filled and drained and re-filled and then drained yet again. There isn’t provision for that, it is likely ruined by now.

That was probably the intent in the first place, to cripple America’s strategic oil reserve capacity.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (FiefX)

241 Mordor is vaguely Asian Minor and East isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (t0Rmr)

242 If the mullahs can get their narrative straight and start framing everything over the last 10 days as an "attack on Islam" they've got some leverage. I'm surprised that that's not how everything's being framed now.

Brings in a whole new group of sympathizers. Many of those are here.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 08:54 AM (Q4IgG)

243 239 It was something Ace said about you awhile back.

Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:55 AM (gPIx3)

244 Midnight Hammer sounds like a Judas Priest album
Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM (Q2PZf)
*****
Sounds like an alcoholic beverage.
Someone should make a cocktail with that name.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 08:55 AM (NpAcC)

245 If the mullahs can get their narrative straight and start framing everything over the last 10 days as an "attack on Islam" they've got some leverage. I'm surprised that that's not how everything's being framed now.

Brings in a whole new group of sympathizers. Many of those are here.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


Test of the ME isn't buying it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 08:55 AM (5WDkb)

246 You People aren't reading between the lines when they threaten us with "sleeper cells" acting out with violence.

What they mean by "sleeper cells" is "all muslims living in USA." But they can't come right out and call all muslims living in USA potential jihadi terrorists if given the motivation.
Posted by: Soothsayer

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Now that's not a very nice thing to say and a cruel stereotype.

Why, there are at least 3% of non-practicing Muslims that don't think Sharia should the law of the land in every nation.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 08:55 AM (jzzLU)

247 242 If the mullahs can get their narrative straight and start framing everything over the last 10 days as an "attack on Islam" they've got some leverage. I'm surprised that that's not how everything's being framed now.

Brings in a whole new group of sympathizers. Many of those are here.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 08:54 AM (Q4IgG)

If there was not a Blood Feud between the Sonnys and the Shits things would be even worse…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:56 AM (PCK5/)

248 Why are the contrarian cranks always republicans? We have Massie and to some extent Rand Paul. Are there equivalents on the Dem side? None immediately pop to mind. Massie on TV yesterday looked like he just walked out of the Deliverance movie and threw on a suit

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 08:57 AM (i5Vkf)

249
LOL @ local fake news

Tag-Team Misinformation, I call it. Two "diverse" "anchors" literally share telling a "news" story, and go from looking at the camera when they speak to looking at their cohort when it's their turn to speak.

And the fake emotional reactions are so funny. Head nodding, sad faces that turn into Happy Faces when it's time to report the local sports team won, Yay!

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 08:57 AM (JeDAM)

250 Mordor is vaguely Asian Minor and East isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (t0Rmr)

Paris.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 08:57 AM (VoAdT)

251 Morn' all...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 08:58 AM (VE6XX)

252 Israel has now been so successful in their campaign that they’re focusing on targets of opportunity, such as IRGC bases, secret police bases, and prisons. After this it will be up to the Iranian people, and it may take time. The Argentine Junta that started the Falklands War fell after it lost the war, but it took nearly a year. Trump is correct to say that we are eliminating Iran’s threat, but we are not forcing regime change. That part is up to the Iranians.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 08:58 AM (e2MJJ)

253 If the mullahs can get their narrative straight and start framing everything over the last 10 days as an "attack on Islam" they've got some leverage. I'm surprised that that's not how everything's being framed now.

Brings in a whole new group of sympathizers. Many of those are here.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
__________

Maybe they've finally overused "jihad" like the left has "fascism."

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 08:58 AM (ITkJX)

254 Why are the contrarian cranks always republicans?

Two main reasons:

1) Contrarian Democrats get punished

2) Leftwing morality is that acquiring power is good EoS. Pulling a Massie generally won't get you any more power so why would they?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 08:58 AM (t0Rmr)

255 248 Why are the contrarian cranks always republicans? We have Massie and to some extent Rand Paul. Are there equivalents on the Dem side? None immediately pop to mind. Massie on TV yesterday looked like he just walked out of the Deliverance movie and threw on a suit
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025

They are mad at Fetterman, but in the end he always votes correctly. MTG is being stupid about this right now, too. I

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:59 AM (PRqXW)

256 178 172 This was a part of the plot of the series “ The Americans”, as the story developed…
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:27 AM (PCK5/)

I didn't realize that. I avoided the show. Is it worth it?
Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 08:31 AM (x2CMu

IMO, excellent, but dark, very dark.
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 08:32 AM (PCK5/)

The problem with The Americans is that its central plot point is completely implausible. Multiple former Soviet citizens have talked about how astonished they were by US supermarkets and that their existence was a dead giveaway about who was right in the Cold War. The Soviets had to have minders to keep people from defecting on any organized group trips to the US. The idea that ideologically committed Soviets were going to live and work here for years on end and keep playing for the away team is ridiculous on its face. The whole plot is just insultingly dumb in a glaring way.

Posted by: Apart from the whole thing, it was pretty good though at June 23, 2025 08:59 AM (CzMNg)

257
Um, remember these Idiots floated the very stupid idea of creating a "shadow government" a month ago?

Well, they did it, and are doing it, but didn't officially announce it.

That's why we keep seeing the same fuckwits rapidly reacting to Everything Our Favorite President(tm) and his Cabinet members do and say.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:00 AM (JeDAM)

258
"To do this, we must present to you a global view from haute couture to “that is actually a table cloth and not a dress.” You will thank me later for the hard work you are putting in now."

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:49 AM


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Alleged DOCTOR Jill Biden at June 23, 2025 09:00 AM (rqEUB)

259 Iran's goal, and the world knows this despite the constant lies of the left, is to have built at least 2-3 nukes:

1 for Israel
1 for another Muslim country, likely Saudi
and, if possible, 1 for Paki or India but held as a threat.

They don't want a few million dead Jews--they wanted hundreds of millions of dead of all races and religions.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 09:00 AM (RpoEI)

260 I'm talking about the period of, say, 1850 through the end of WWII. I'll concede small arms and artillery not changing significantly after the smokeless powder bolt action was perfected around 1900, and hydraulic recoil for artillery about the same time.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 08:30 AM


It's a maxim that development of the machine gun was pretty important.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 09:00 AM (0sNs1)

261 Oh FFS. Got this from my accounting dude:

When Gov Hogan left office in Jan 2023, the state had a $5B surplus. The 2025 act includes various tax increases hoping to curtail the states nearly $3B deficit expected by fiscal 2026.

WHY? WHY DO DEMS HATE SURPLUSES SO MUCH?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 09:00 AM (svLOV)

262
WHY? WHY DO DEMS HATE SURPLUSES SO MUCH?/i]

To them the point of government is to enrich yourself and your clients. Why would you sit on a surplus when you can just take it?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:01 AM (t0Rmr)

263 They are mad at Fetterman, but in the end he always votes correctly. MTG is being stupid about this right now, too. I
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 08:59 AM (PRqXW)

Yes... What's up with Green ? She's becoming the blond version of Jasmine Crockett

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:02 AM (VE6XX)

264
Really, it's a rapid reaction team. The Democrat party has been reduced to Tik Tok reactionary videos.

That's their "shadow government" in action. Jazz Ratchet is their lead Tik Tok Reaction Goblin. She's sassy and shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:02 AM (JeDAM)

265 The coming AI whatever it is will certainly take away a lot of tech sector jobs however successful it ultimately will be. And there will be no one from the government or the industry itself to stop it.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 08:45 AM (t0Rmr)

My on the ground take.

GenAI is being used as an excuse to RIF an perceived over hiring of developers.

Thing is, it makes easy jobs easier and hard jobs impossible. People see the easy things though and expect it to make the hard things easier too.


I'm thinking of vibe coding but it seems applicable elsewhere too.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:02 AM (GSBVY)

266 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.

Get that man some black wingtips. Florsheim, preferably.

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:02 AM (AOsQT)

267
Hasn’t Piper already been declared like Empress of the blog, or something?
Posted by: Bulg at June 23, 2025 08:53 AM (gPIx3)


She was but it was reversed when Empress Piper the First, as the first order of the new AOSHQ Empire was that-

all morons and ettes must begin each day with 30 minutes of Jazzercise and a healthy Kale and Brussel Sprout Smoothie.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (iJfKG)

268 Midnight Hammer sounds like a Judas Priest album
Posted by: Josephistan at June 23, 2025 08:51 AM


I was doing the midnight hammer before it was cool.

Posted by: Paul P. at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (0sNs1)

269 Oh FFS. Got this from my accounting dude:

When Gov Hogan left office in Jan 2023, the state had a $5B surplus. The 2025 act includes various tax increases hoping to curtail the states nearly $3B deficit expected by fiscal 2026.

WHY? WHY DO DEMS HATE SURPLUSES SO MUCH?
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 09:00 AM (svLOV)


And the Key Bridge site looks almost exactly as it did 15 months ago

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (B5+rm)

270 Clicked a news link, ended up at a Breitbart article...

Awful utter crap. Do better Breitbart writers.

Posted by: Rikki I lost your number at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (gVopW)

271 Yesterday was a prime example: Iran threatens the shut the Strait of Hormuz.
The left panics the world with horror stories of economic collapse.
When the reality is 1) they can't, they don't have the resources, not even close 2) the whole world would turn against them, not just the US, 3) the US would crush their blockade in minutes and 4) most importantly, the blockade would cut off their own only source of revenue.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 08:46 AM (RpoEI)

Bingo! Very good summary.

This war is exposing Iran as a paper tiger that loves to belch out threats it has no way of backing

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (e2MJJ)

272 266 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.

Get that man some black wingtips

You absolutely can wear brown shoes with a blue suit!

And on that note, I have to go teach my 815a. Have a good rest of your morning, and everyone should move as much as they are able to do today!

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (PRqXW)

273 Russia warns US strikes on Iran opened ‘Pandora’s box,’ suggests world could be on verge of nuclear disaster

https://tinyurl.com/yc2ar4tu

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:04 AM (NpAcC)

274 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.
Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:02 AM


What?

Posted by: Naval Aviators at June 23, 2025 09:04 AM (0sNs1)

275 >>Thomas Massie says he feels "misled" by Trump after Iran strikes: "He’s engaged in war."


Where was this assertive, defiant Massie 2020 - 2024?
Seem to recall he said a few things in opposition, but now. . .?

I am so very tired of the MSM's 'strange new respect' and massive coverage of maverick-y, turncoat Republicans.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:04 AM (6o/o0)

276 You absolutely can wear brown shoes with a blue suit!


---

It's my standard pairing.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (levDv)

277 273 Russia warns US strikes on Iran opened ‘Pandora’s box,’ suggests world could be on verge of nuclear disaster

https://tinyurl.com/yc2ar4tu
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:04 AM (NpAcC)

How stupid is that ? Seems to me it is the opposite....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (VE6XX)

278 266 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.
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Meeh, the Army always wore brown shoes/boots until they switched to black cuz they were impressed with the German professionalism. Then there was the Ike Jacket which mimicked the Soviet uniform. They always make you look fat.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (3QiDE)

279 Want to know when AI will no longer be "a thing?"

When it's used to replace newz readers on the TV. As soon as some network tries that all hell's going to break loose.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (Q4IgG)

280 all morons and ettes must begin each day with 30 minutes of Jazzercise and a healthy Kale and Brussel Sprout Smoothie.

Milk Shake > Smoothy > Healthy Smoothy >>>> healthy Kale and Brussel Sprout Smoothie

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (t0Rmr)

281
Holy shit! I just noticed Baltimore's mayor and Maryland's governor are both lori lightfoots -- incompetent black racists.

btw, why are supposebly "oppressed" blacks always getting to be mayors, governors, senators, judges, and presidents??

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (JeDAM)

282 And the Key Bridge site looks almost exactly as it did 15 months ago
Posted by: Doof


In fairness, the rebuilding will take a while. It's not just rebuilding it; there have been talks about making it taller. At least there is no longer chatter about environmental impact reports having to be done first.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (svLOV)

283 >> Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.


Black coat, white shoes, black hat, Cadillac
Yeah, the boy's a time bomb

Posted by: Rancid at June 23, 2025 09:06 AM (6o/o0)

284 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.

Get that man some black wingtips

You absolutely can wear brown shoes with a blue suit!

And on that note, I have to go teach my 815a. Have a good rest of your morning, and everyone should move as much as they are able to do today!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (PRqXW)
******
It's a good look . That's what's in style now.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:06 AM (NpAcC)

285 When it's used to replace newz readers on the TV. As soon as some network tries that all hell's going to break loose.

I'm seeing a lot of short form clips on various feed sources that are AI generated.

I wonder when the first AI generated movie will be? And...if they'll actually tell you that or just release it and see how it goes...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:06 AM (t0Rmr)

286 “Experiencing a mental health crisis”

Oh! Well Never Mind Then! It’s OK, right?

So very sick of the excessive faggotry and euphemisms for this sort of thing. If the SOB is Crazy

What the Fuck What s he doing out in public? He should be Locked Up.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 23, 2025 09:06 AM (FiefX)

287 I’m a lot less sanguine about the bombing than most. Unfortunately I’ve seen this movie before. Up front, I think we had very few choices, and it’s more people’s expectations that concern me. It’s almost always the same. Euphoria over the mission and “achieving” the objectives. Therein lies the rub. We get the rosy BDA with analysts telling us we’ve done extensive damage. Then they slowly back off, which is what is happening now with whispers about whether the nuclear material may have been moved. Spoiler: they have no idea. In the end this mission was about buying time. Stop and ask yourself- for what? Then once you figure that out ask yourself, how and at what cost are you willing to achieve the necessary goals?

In the end this is about a sovereign ruled by Islamic religious fanatics who see a nuclear bomb as a way to achieve their twisted, evil theological goals. They intend to use it. Period. Worst part, there are other nations for whom Iran is a proxy, and who want to see those evil aspirations achieved.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 23, 2025 09:07 AM (ibxva)

288 I can't believe what I'm hearing

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:07 AM (AOsQT)

289 The coming AI whatever it is will certainly take away a lot of tech sector jobs however successful it ultimately will be. And there will be no one from the government or the industry itself to stop it.
Posted by: 18-1

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People on X are noticing that we are being asked to put our AC on 79 to save energy because AI farms no one wants need that electricity.

It's a solid point.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:07 AM (jzzLU)

290
Gotta say: Sec Hesgeth needs a new tailor. His suits fit him terribly.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:07 AM (JeDAM)

291 Nobody watches the news.

Posted by: It's 2025 at June 23, 2025 09:07 AM (rqEUB)

292
JD Vance needs a better tailor, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:08 AM (JeDAM)

293 I will say I'm morbidly curious about an AI Anderson Cooper.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:08 AM (levDv)

294 I can't believe what I'm hearing
Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:07 AM


Someone slipped a 1-800-Kars-4-Kids link past you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 09:08 AM (0sNs1)

295 >> Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.


All he needs is spats.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 23, 2025 09:08 AM (wVcYX)

296 JD Vance needs a better tailor, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:08 AM (JeDAM)

And yet they're up to their ears in tinkers, soldiers, and spies.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (VoAdT)

297 You absolutely can wear brown shoes with a blue suit!

-

Not while looking respectable. Not to put too fine a point on it, but brown shoes and blue suits is a Steve Harvey approach to style, and it's become normalized for those reasons.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (jzzLU)

298 Get that man some black wingtips. Florsheim, preferably.
Posted by: Don Black

It's not easy living in a shoe. Here's my dog Tide, he lives in here, too.

Posted by: Buster Brown at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (G5+As)

299 The next big breakthrough in weaponry will likely be space based.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 08:44 AM (e2MJJ)

That's right, dude. Waaay out there.

Posted by: Tommy Chong at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (5xuJ/)

300 Massie is one of those liberals who has takent enough to talk a good game and pretend he’s some kind of conservative - except for every time it counts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (e2MJJ)

301 How stupid is that ? Seems to me it is the opposite....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (VE6XX)
*******
Russia just wants to be relevant. Putin is just mad that Trump wouldn't go with the idea of letting of him being the negotiator.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (NpAcC)

302 I will say I'm morbidly curious about an AI Anderson Cooper.

Can I make it read The Handmaid's Tale in Andy's smooth smokey voice?

Oh and uh...naked?

Posted by: Kathy Griffin at June 23, 2025 09:09 AM (t0Rmr)

303 Brown shoes don't make it.

Posted by: Don Van Vliet at June 23, 2025 09:10 AM (gVopW)

304 I prefer black dress shoes because they go with every color. Brown is more hit and miss.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:10 AM (t0Rmr)

305 Blue and brown has always been a thing. It provides contrast and in many situations can be the statement piece of an outfit. As long as I can remember it was brown w blue.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:10 AM (levDv)

306 Now do white socks, black shoes…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:10 AM (PCK5/)

307 Spoiler: they have no idea. In the end this mission was about buying time.
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Yes. The big move is now the Arabs are aligned and united with the US. The Persians, not so much.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:11 AM (FmapG)

308 >btw, why are supposebly "oppressed" blacks always getting to be mayors, governors, senators, judges, and presidents??

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM


I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser at June 23, 2025 09:11 AM (rqEUB)

309 I will say I'm morbidly curious about an AI Anderson Cooper.

Max Headroom. But gay.

Posted by: The Future Sucks at June 23, 2025 09:11 AM (CzMNg)

310 The view inside a B-2 cockpit:

https://tinyurl.com/yev9z73h

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 09:11 AM (NC42u)

311 "Iran’s parliament has voted to close the Strait of Hormuz"

Tha fok yoo weer goat man.

Posted by: China at June 23, 2025 09:11 AM (Yl1qS)

312 From what I’ve read this morning the Israelis think they have good intelligence on where Iran is storing their stockpiles of enriched uranium.

I would think that would be the first order of business in trying to settle this thing before that stuff gets put on top of a missile or taken out of the country and smuggled somewhere we don’t want it to be.

I’ve always had that worry in the back of my mind on where the uranium went.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (6ydKt)

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I have admittedly not been paying close attention to this story (for reasons of my own). Still, I thought the whole purpose of the bombings was to eliminate the possibility of using the uranium.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 23, 2025 09:12 AM (PMtkd)

313 Persia has always been a PITA for the West.

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:12 AM (PCK5/)

314 WTI Crude 73.64 -0.20 -0.27%

PDT first term and oil boom has left the Iranians with their dick in their hand.
We have around 150 years of clean coal.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 09:12 AM (gbOdA)

315 Ok.

Boobs.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:12 AM (levDv)

316 I wonder if any of these federal judge, that fancy themselves kings, have noticed the Florida AG has walked right through her tissue paper contempt order?

Oh no! Contempt! Not that!

Nah, they're too cow stupid to realize they're walking into the end of their power.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 09:12 AM (RpoEI)

317 Now do white socks, black shoes…

Looking at the young'ins in my area they will wear this AND black socks with white shoes.

No wonder the fertility rate is cratering.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:12 AM (t0Rmr)

318 I know, these guys are wearing suits that are cut way too tight

they all look uncomfortable

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:13 AM (AOsQT)

319 It's not easy living in a shoe. Here's my dog Tide, he lives in here, too.
Posted by: Buster Brown

Amateur.

Posted by: Little Old Lady with so many children at June 23, 2025 09:13 AM (rqEUB)

320 And the Key Bridge site looks almost exactly as it did 15 months ago
Posted by: Doof

In fairness, the rebuilding will take a while. It's not just rebuilding it; there have been talks about making it taller. At least there is no longer chatter about environmental impact reports having to be done first.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 09:05 AM (svLOV)


They could have replaced the damaged section with a new truss by now. All of the elevated approach sections are still intact.
Then work on a whole new bigger better thing. A taller bridge will require new elevated approach sections. This is a nice-to-have, not a necessity.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:13 AM (B5+rm)

321 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.

You must not know anyone under 40.

It's the hip thing to do now.

As a sidenote, I've always thought that Ox-Blood
shoes made a good look with blue suits.

It's a classic combo and sorta in the brownie spectrum.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 09:13 AM (iJfKG)

322 I thought the new look was a suit with basketball shoes. It's what all the cool kids are wearing on TV.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:13 AM (Zz0t1)

323 I know, these guys are wearing suits that are cut way too tight

they all look uncomfortable
Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:13 AM (AOsQT)

Agreed. You have to have a certain body type, and generally be in your 20s, to make a skinny suit work.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (levDv)

324 Men's suits took a turn for the worse when they went to that fitted look and I really find the collars on men's shirts off putting

Posted by: Ben Had at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (ZIggv)

325 I think Trump was pretty clear about staying out of regime change when he told the middle east that they were in charge of their own countries at that conference last month.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (h2KMk)

326 309 I will say I'm morbidly curious about an AI Anderson Cooper.

Max Headroom. But gay.
Posted by: The Future Sucks at June 23, 2025 09:11 AM (CzMNg)


Head for Groomer . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (x0n13)

327 Got off the course. Basting in my own juices. Air conditioning here I come

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (O8bOp)

328 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.

Get that man some black wingtips. Florsheim, preferably.
Posted by: Don Black


Royal Imperial.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (5WDkb)

329 Our Sec Def wears brown shoes with blue suits. It is not a good look.

Get that man some black wingtips

You absolutely can wear brown shoes with a blue suit!

And on that note, I have to go teach my 815a. Have a good rest of your morning, and everyone should move as much as they are able to do today!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2025 09:03 AM (PRqXW)
******
It's a good look . That's what's in style now.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 23, 2025 09:06 AM (NpAcC)
———

Brown shoes with a blue suit is way better than black shoes. Black with blue looks like a policeman. The Blade only wears brown, including brown suede. Sadly, the look has been co-opted by endless hipster DudeBros who must have seen the look on some reality show, along with homosexual-style skinny pants.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 23, 2025 09:15 AM (2fERT)

330 Style, not boobs.

Piper is truly our new Empress.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:15 AM (levDv)

331 >>How funny is it that the Dems are pissed they weren't informed about the strikes, then it comes out that Schumer was involved and told none of his party.


Huh, hadn't seen that.

Was recalling that whatsapp conversation re: Houthi bombing that leaked that the Dems used to attempt to oust Hegseth. He and the rest of the Trump team really got things locked down with the Iran operation, huh? Glad they learned their lesson on a small operation!

Posted by: Rancid at June 23, 2025 09:15 AM (6o/o0)

332
Head for Groomer . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (x0n13)



Max Kidgroom.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:15 AM (Zz0t1)

333 think Trump was pretty clear about staying out of regime change when he told the middle east that they were in charge of their own countries at that conference last month.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway


But, but, but, we didn't believe him! No one ever means what they say! Reeeeeeeeeee!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:16 AM (5WDkb)

334 I prefer black dress shoes because they go with every color. Brown is more hit and miss.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:10 AM (t0Rmr)

*pouts*

Posted by: Burgundy Dress Shoes at June 23, 2025 09:16 AM (wVcYX)

335 Aaaannnd it's a fashion thread...

Posted by: Must be nine fifteen at June 23, 2025 09:16 AM (rqEUB)

336 This is not some new development BTW:

But Jim, our cousin... what d'yer fink 'e wore?

Why, brahn boots!
I ask yer... brahn boots!
Fancy coming to a funeral
In brahn boots!

I will admit 'e 'ad a nice black tie,
Black fingernails and a nice black eye;
But yer can't see people orf when they die,
In brahn boots!

https://tinyurl.com/ybawtac8

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:16 AM (jzzLU)

337 I look at pictures of my sisters wedding mumble mumble years ago… I was an usher and I see myself (a very young version of myself) in those photos wearing a blue pinstripe suit (complete with vest… a three piece suit) and (drum roll) brown suede shoes. No stink eye from my sister (that I remember anyway)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 09:17 AM (6RwsA)

338 I see Fred Smith of FedEX passed away a few days ago. Interesting guy who came up with an overnight delivery system.

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:17 AM (Oy/m2)

339 "Make Iran Great Again" has a nice ring to it....

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (hsIpI)

340 I thought the new look was a suit with basketball shoes. It's what all the cool kids are wearing on TV.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer


The coolest kids are wearing beach flip flops with their suits. Hang ten!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (5WDkb)

341 I miss my old burgundy Bass penny loafers. Yes, I had actual pennies in them.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (B5+rm)

342 339 "Make Iran Great Again" has a nice ring to it....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (hsIpI)

"Make Iran Persia Again "

Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (VE6XX)

343 I see Fred Smith of FedEX passed away a few days ago. Interesting guy who came up with an overnight delivery system.

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:17 AM (Oy/m2)



His name wan't Fred Ex?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (iJfKG)

344 Now about Trump's neckties...

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (AOsQT)

345
His name wan't Fred Ex?


Well, that was his wife after they got divorced

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:19 AM (t0Rmr)

346 Click here to get live tracking of the location of Fred Smith's casket.

Posted by: Too soon? at June 23, 2025 09:19 AM (rqEUB)

347 It's a good look . That's what's in style now.

Yeah, no.

Look at what say, Sonny & Cher were wearing in 1967, the “style” is just a mechanism to separate stupid people from their money, which n general.

Bell bottoms. Nehru jackets. Beads. Hippies. Brought to you by our Sponsors, and Time-Life.

The 70s were even worse. Fat ties. Polyester. Porn Stache and Fros.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 23, 2025 09:19 AM (FiefX)

348 Midnight Hammer was my Pr0n name

Posted by: Life of Wryly at June 23, 2025 09:20 AM (ycs3a)

349 343 I see Fred Smith of FedEX passed away a few days ago. Interesting guy who came up with an overnight delivery system.

Posted by: dantesed at June 23, 2025 09:17 AM (Oy/m2)
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A Marine Corps Lieutenant. Is there anything a Marine Lieutenant can't do?

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:20 AM (FmapG)

350 I think *biden's "moon boot" shoes that he wore with a suit is.... well, it's a look.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 09:20 AM (Q4IgG)

351 I am not a fashion maven, so I can't say that I have ever noticed which shoes Peter Hegseth wears with his suits , or that his suits are ill fitting. I just think he's a smart and good looking man.
I do appreciate Piper's fashion critiques on Sunday , however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 09:21 AM (2GCMq)

352 He wears a lot of solid color neckties. Actually I'd be surprised if he owned more than 5 neckties- a gold one, a blue one, and three red ones.

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:21 AM (AOsQT)

353 If I hear that we're on the verge on WWIII one more time... Iran cant do squat. They're done except for the squealing. Russia? They don't care about Iran. Paki, India, any country that has nukes would not risk oblivion over Iran.

Posted by: Megthered at June 23, 2025 09:21 AM (XjJ8u)

354 The 70s were even worse. Fat ties. Polyester. Porn Stache and Fros.
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Platform shoes for the win!

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:21 AM (FmapG)

355 >>Aaaannnd it's a fashion thread...


OK! Here are a few dudes who know how to wear a suit: https://tinyurl.com/2kzpu8th

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:22 AM (6o/o0)

356 Mustaches - most likely see them on Cops, Hipsters, and Fabulously Flamboyant Flamers

and on combination...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:22 AM (t0Rmr)

357 3 things that happened just this week that tell us Dems are insane:
1. John Brennan: “Allow Iranians to have some type of enrichment capability.” He says he’s just trying to think creatively. 2. Texas Democrats took to the Texas House floor to argue for state legislation that says that if you go on vacation and squatters take up residence in your home, they should be allowed to stay. 3. Democrats’ reaction to the Supreme Court’s ruling on transgender kids: Democrats said not allowing them mutilate their sex parts would cause “permanent, irreparable harm” — which, of course, is the opposite of true.

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 09:22 AM (RHGPo)

358 Men's suits took a turn for the worse when they went to that fitted look and I really find the collars on men's shirts off putting
Posted by: Ben Had at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (ZIggv)


Yeah, men's suits of today resemble what Pee Wee Herman wore in the mid 80s. Give me a relaxed fit 1990s suit with pleated pants. And 1990s neckties were the best! Today's are bland and boring.

Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:23 AM (B5+rm)

359 The coolest kids are wearing beach flip flops with their suits. Hang ten!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM


It's the goofy foots you need to watch out for.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 09:23 AM (0sNs1)

360 Click here to get live tracking of the location of Fred Smith's casket.
Posted by: Too soon?


Oh snap! They lost it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:23 AM (5WDkb)

361 Platform shoes for the win!
Posted by: pudinhead
________

With the goldfish heals.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 23, 2025 09:24 AM (ITkJX)

362 Mustaches - most likely see them on Cops, Hipsters, and Fabulously Flamboyant Flamers

and on combination...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:22 AM


* side eye *

Posted by: Sam Elliott at June 23, 2025 09:24 AM (0sNs1)

363 1. John Brennan: “Allow Iranians to have some type of enrichment capability.”

He says he’s just trying to think creatively.



John, don't. You're not good at it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:24 AM (5WDkb)

364 Click here to get live tracking of the location of Fred Smith's casket.
Posted by: Too soon?


It will take up to 24 hours for the ticket to be created

Posted by: Someone checking delivery status seconds after placing an order at June 23, 2025 09:24 AM (t0Rmr)

365 Mustaches are no bueno?

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:25 AM (PCK5/)

366
The coolest kids are wearing beach flip flops with their suits. Hang ten!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:18 AM (5WDkb)



That should be grounds for assassination.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:25 AM (Zz0t1)

367 "Bang, Bang, Donald's Silver Hammer came down upon his head." (apologies to the Beatles)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 23, 2025 08:48 AM (5xuJ/)
~~~~~

We're almost there!

Bang, bang Donald's Golden Hammer came down upon his head.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 23, 2025 09:25 AM (3ImbR)

368 You people will talk about anything.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 09:25 AM (viF8m)

369 Platform shoes for the win!

Every now and then I see a fashionista trying to walk in either platform shoes/high heels that are way to tall for them.

It always elicits a laugh...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (t0Rmr)

370 Agreed. You have to have a certain body type, and generally be in your 20s, to make a skinny suit work.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 23, 2025 09:14 AM (levDv)

Trump has more of a Brooks Brothers look, a suit that comfortably drapes. It works with larger men. My Dad was tall and slender (like Dick Van Dyke) and had bespoke suits from Morty Sills in New York. Not tight fitting like the ridiculous monkey suits men are wearing now but nicely conformed to thinner frame. My first suits, bought for me, were Brooks and I couldn't wait to buy my own Italian styled ones.

Posted by: Ordinary Amerian at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (x2CMu)

371 Platform shoes for the win!
Posted by: pudinhead


So glad we didn't have phone cameras back in high school. What happened in '79, stays in '79.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (5WDkb)

372 >>Yeah, men's suits of today resemble what Pee Wee Herman wore in the mid 80s.


Blame Thom Browne!!
https://www.thombrowne.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (6o/o0)

373 368 You people will talk about anything.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 09:25 AM (viF8m)

ADD is our jam…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (PCK5/)

374 You people will talk about anything.
Posted by: JackStraw

-

Look, just because you don't own a suit doesn't mean you can't tell what looks decent and what looks absurd.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (jzzLU)

375 Not surprisingly, Iran moved a large amount of equipment and material from Fordow before it was destroyed. It seems there still is work to be done by Israel.

https://tinyurl.com/449m3kv5

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (Os3IE)

376 I guess to understand men's fashions you'd have to look at who is designing men's clothes today. Bet their idea of "what a man should wear" and what someone normal thinks a man should wear are not the same.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (Q4IgG)

377 So glad we didn't have phone cameras back in high school. What happened in '79, stays in '79.
----------------
Mullets and Shag haircuts.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (FmapG)

378 I personally like suits and dress coats because it makes concealed carry of larger pistols much easier.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (jzzLU)

379
Yeah, men's suits of today resemble what Pee Wee Herman wore in the mid 80s. Give me a relaxed fit 1990s suit with pleated pants. And 1990s neckties were the best! Today's are bland and boring.
Posted by: Doof at June 23, 2025 09:23 AM (B5+rm)



The European influence on clothing with their skinny everything ruined fashion for the foreseeable future.

Skinny jeans are for fags, and having everything tailored to show every curve on men is off-putting.

Zuit Suit FTW.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

380 368 You people will talk about anything.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 09:25 AM

Next up: carrots in chili!

Posted by: And ketchup on steak at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (rqEUB)

381 Texas Dems really came out openly in support of squatters rights???!! Well that sounds really popular with folks who like to go on vacation (sarc)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 23, 2025 09:28 AM (ANuwa)

382 363 1. John Brennan: “Allow Iranians to have some type of enrichment capability.”

He says he’s just trying to think creatively.



John, don't. You're not good at it.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:24 AM (5WDkb)


WE should Enrich Iran's soil. With Brennan's rotting corpse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 09:28 AM (x0n13)

383 Nehru suits for the win!

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at June 23, 2025 09:28 AM (0sNs1)

384 I guess to understand men's fashions you'd have to look at who is designing men's clothes today. Bet their idea of "what a man should wear" and what someone normal thinks a man should wear are not the same.

Posted by: Martini Farmer

-

The venn diagram of normal people and Gay men promoting terrible things has once again entered the chat.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:28 AM (jzzLU)

385 Eldridge Cleaver pants didn't become a fashion hit for some reason.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 23, 2025 09:28 AM (wVcYX)

386 I guess to understand men's fashions you'd have to look at who is designing men's clothes today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer


Little old Italian men from Palermo & Naples.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:29 AM (5WDkb)

387 >>1. John Brennan: “Allow Iranians to have some type of enrichment capability.”

He says he’s just trying to think creatively.


Obama got his Iran policy from Brennan. Brennan was writing about making Iran the stabilizing superpower in the ME, replacing the US, back before TFG was elected.
I assume everything TFG did with Iran was with Brennan's input and "creative thinking."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:29 AM (6o/o0)

388 I’m glad I don’t have to worry about wearing suits anymore.

On that subject I find that the ‘clothes make a man’ saying sure fools a lot of women.

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2025 09:29 AM (VofaG)

389 I personally like suits and dress coats because it makes concealed carry of larger pistols much easier.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - US is a matriarchy, women have rights and veto without any duties at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (jzzLU)

Indeed.

Posted by: John Holmes at June 23, 2025 09:30 AM (wVcYX)

390 With an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time.

Posted by: Grandpa Simpy at June 23, 2025 09:30 AM (rqEUB)

391 So glad we didn't have phone cameras back in high school. What happened in '79, stays in '79.
----------------
Mullets and Shag haircuts.
Posted by: pudinhead


Tail end of disco.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 09:30 AM (5WDkb)

392 "Fashion"?
Let's see... shorts, Magellan shirt, flip-flops, brazilian tarp hat.

Stylish! And retired.

Posted by: man at June 23, 2025 09:30 AM (tubbA)

393 JFK wore nice neckties. A solid color necktie, you're just phoning it in.

Posted by: Don Black at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (AOsQT)

394 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

395 >>So glad we didn't have phone cameras back in high school. What happened in '79, stays in '79.
----------------
Mullets and Shag haircuts.



Satin bomber jackets, velour shirts. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (6o/o0)

396 My step daughter believes that PDT's suits are horrible, I'm not an expert so I'll refrain from commenting. I think Hegseth looks great although I prefer him in running gear working out with members of whatever military branch he's visiting.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (2NHgQ)

397 Looking at my old HS yearbook the oddest thing is how high the girls got their hair. Most of them had something to make it big and puffy.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (t0Rmr)

398 having everything tailored to show every curve on men is off-putting.

Och, laddie, the lassies enjoy watching us in kilts, you know!

Posted by: Angus McAngusface at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (0sNs1)

399 379Skinny jeans are for fags, and having everything tailored to show every curve on men is off-putting.

Zuit Suit FTW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)



Pfft!


The Eldridge Cleaver Cock-sock...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2025 09:32 AM (x0n13)

400 Not surprisingly, Iran moved a large amount of equipment and material from Fordow before it was destroyed. It seems there still is work to be done by Israel.

https://tinyurl.com/449m3kv5

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 09:27 AM (Os3IE)
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First, let's assume that's what the pic shows. Do you think Israel intel didn't know about the truck traffic jam and follow through?

Next, wrong:

https://tinyurl.com/2xfud397

If you were the US or Israel, don't you think you'd be max monitoring visible activity of a place like Fordow for days before destroying it?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 09:35 AM (NC42u)

401 Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 23, 2025 09:31 AM (2NHgQ)

I agree with so about seeing him in running gear working out along with the military😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 09:40 AM (2GCMq)

402 Meet Eldridge Cleaver: 1968 Presidential Candidate And Penis Pants Inventor

The folks at Anorak dug up some fascinating information about Cleaver’s long-forgotten foray into fashion. And it’s crazy as hell.

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 09:40 AM (RHGPo)

403 You can thank me for nuclear proliferation in the world!

Posted by: AQ Khan at June 23, 2025 09:45 AM (LPL2Y)

404 Iran launches massive missile barrage towards Israel, no injuries reported

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (RHGPo)

405 Re: John Brennan

Wtf converts to Islam from Catholicism?

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 23, 2025 09:49 AM (PMtkd)

406 ‘Traumatized’ AWFL Says She Was Hit by Car at Anti-ICE Protest—Asked Police for Help, Got a Citation Instead

“I’m very, very upset because I want to press criminal charges against this person who hit me and the cops just handed me a f***ing citation saying that it’s my fault.”

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 09:56 AM (RHGPo)

407 🚨 Breaking: General Ali Fadavi, deputy commander of IRGC, was arrested for spying for Israel

Right now any IRGC general that is alive, is either an Israeli spy or such an idiot that he is deemed to be more useful for Israel alive than dead 🤡

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 09:58 AM (RHGPo)

408 Iran launches massive missile barrage towards Israel, no injuries reported

Posted by: SMOD at June 23, 2025 09:46 AM (RHGPo)
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That would've been the one 6-7 hours ago.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 10:05 AM (NC42u)

409 If you were the US or Israel, don't you think you'd be max monitoring visible activity of a place like Fordow for days before destroying it?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 09:35 AM (NC42u)
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Only a fool would believe Iran hasn't moved material, and despite what you may think, it's hard to believe Israeli intelligence would be foolish. There may be arguments about this particular photo and what it shows (that's the nature of sat photo analysis), and there may even be arguments about the gist of the Free Press article, but there is no argument about their basic conclusion, which is there is still work to be done and Israel is the right power to do it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 10:20 AM (fsolL)

410 Huck, of course. My point was that the link you posted isn't about transferring equipment or enriched uranium.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 10:27 AM (NC42u)

411 Huck, of course. My point was that the link you posted isn't about transferring equipment or enriched uranium.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 10:27 AM (NC42u)
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and my point is that reaching a vociferous conclusion based on a single sat photo is probably a leap too far. In this instance, we have competing claims about the photo in question, but no one should doubt the thrust of the argument.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 10:34 AM (iEO53)

412 First!

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at June 23, 2025 12:19 PM (gxokI)

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:32 AM (CQE5S)

2 G'morning Pixy.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:32 AM (O7YUW)

3 m: Congrats on the first, and the first nood in the ONT. :-)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:33 AM (O7YUW)

4 morning all.

Posted by: clarence at June 23, 2025 04:33 AM (UTVh+)

5 3 m: Congrats on the first, and the first nood in the ONT. :-)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:33 AM (O7YUW)

; )

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:34 AM (CQE5S)

6 What if customers say no to AI?

A lot of CEOs are going to have to explain to their investors why they went all-in on this when it so obviously wasn't worth it.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:35 AM (O7YUW)

7 Anyone have any idea why my phone screen is jumping around so much, and why I would get the "a problem repeatedly occurred" when accessing this site? Thanks

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 04:36 AM (2GCMq)

8 BOING!

More sirens in northern Israel.

So far no warnings for anywhere else.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 04:37 AM (NC42u)

9 >> What if customers say no to AI? (MSN)

I know some people who are using AI super-obsessively. You must know lots of such people?

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:37 AM (CQE5S)

10 52-core CPUs in a laptop, from Intel: I hope someone does a power-drain graph when the cores are fully loaded, showing how long it takes to deplete the laptop's battery from full charge.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:39 AM (O7YUW)

11 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 04:39 AM (sAmhv)

12 Scientific and personal papers by WWIi code breaker Alan Turing discovered and saved from shredder:

https://tinyurl.com/yefj85rj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 04:43 AM (2GCMq)

13 What if customers say no to AI?


Well if recent history is a guide, quadruple down on forcing AI on the customers. If they refuse, lobby government and have them force AI on customers. YOU WILL HAVE AI CITIZEN!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 04:43 AM (sAmhv)

14 7 Anyone have any idea why my phone screen is jumping around so much, and why I would get the "a problem repeatedly occurred" when accessing this site? Thanks
Posted by: FenelonSpoke



I don't know but you're not alone with phone issues with AoS. My phone doesn't not like it here. The laptops have no issue.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 04:45 AM (sAmhv)

15 I assume the people in the music video are speaking English, but the only words I can understand are "Rock me Amadeus"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 04:46 AM (2GCMq)

16 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 04:47 AM (u82oZ)

17 15: Heh! Well, Falco, the musician, was Austrian. English not a native language. Also, 80s music videos were, uh, interesting. The lyrics were mostly irrelevant to the video, so don't worry too much about it.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 04:48 AM (sAmhv)

18 G'morning, all!


Salty!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 23, 2025 04:50 AM (a1415)

19 Its going to hit 100 today here in Babylon DC. I think i'll get my walk in this morning. Like, in 10 minutes. Mid 70s now and humid.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 04:50 AM (sAmhv)

20 @7/FenelonSpoke: Anyone have any idea why my phone screen is jumping around so much, and why I would get the "a problem repeatedly occurred" when accessing this site?

My guess is posts on X that first load as a block of text, and then expand to a larger vertical footprint as they bring in the pictures and the text display of the actual post as rendered on X.

The links to posts on X here at AoSHQ seem to use the old twitter.com domain and I had to disable that domain in No-Script, and that solved the jumping around nonsense for me on my desktop. I also have some pretty serious ad-blocking set up on my desktop because I despise advertisements.

Trying with my phone instead of my desktop... Yeah, I'm seeing some jumping around when I load the ONT. King Harv's adverts also seem to cause some minor shifting around after the text of the post loads.

Solution: Let the page settle down first when you jump into a thread before trying to scroll and read (this will also need to be done every time you refresh the page to get new comments.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:51 AM (O7YUW)

21 G'morning NaCly Dog - 4 more days to go (including today.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:51 AM (O7YUW)

22 A lot of CEOs are going to have to explain to their investors why they went all-in on this when it so obviously wasn't worth it.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:35 AM (O7YUW)


My company is currently adding 'AI' to a product. It's the most important thing in the history of ever. People have to work crazy overtime to get it completed. Rules and procedures we've developed over the years to prevent bad things from happening have to be thrown out the window to meet an arbitrary announce date. Other product releases have to be put in jeopardy. And the release is being pushed back one week from normal to allow marketing to announce when they want.

Oh, yeah, and now we're scrambling to give customers the option to not install it because we've had several big customers say that they cannot install anything with 'AI'.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 04:52 AM (ExV1e)

23 >> Falco - Rock Me Amadeus

Wild.

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:55 AM (CQE5S)

24 15 I assume the people in the music video are speaking English, but the only words I can understand are "Rock me Amadeus"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


It's mostly in German, with some words borrowed from English.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 23, 2025 04:55 AM (BLOW1)

25 Grumpy and Recalcitrant

Excellent news. Are you going to drive in the Summer?

Remember, you are only as good as your next turn. And focus in needed for the last few days.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 04:56 AM (u82oZ)

26 22 A lot of CEOs are going to have to explain to their investors why they went all-in on this when it so obviously wasn't worth it.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:35 AM (O7YUW)

My company is currently adding 'AI' to a product. It's the most important thing in the history of ever. People have to work crazy overtime to get it completed. Rules and procedures we've developed over the years to prevent bad things from happening have to be thrown out the window to meet an arbitrary announce date. Other product releases have to be put in jeopardy. And the release is being pushed back one week from normal to allow marketing to announce when they want.

Oh, yeah, and now we're scrambling to give customers the option to not install it because we've had several big customers say that they cannot install anything with 'AI'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 04:52 AM (ExV1e)

Sorry.

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:56 AM (CQE5S)

27 22 we've had several big customers say that they cannot install anything with 'AI'
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 04:52 AM (ExV1e)

... maybe good news, for the rest of us!

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:57 AM (CQE5S)

28 I used to have a different nic

This seems to be very short sighted. Unless the suits fear losing any First Mover benefits.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 04:57 AM (u82oZ)

29 Off for my walk....

Later

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 04:58 AM (sAmhv)

30 Sorry.
Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:56 AM (CQE5S)


Well... in exactly 100 days I'm giving my boss the good news that I'm retiring so it doesn't bother me all that much. Given that the company has replaced most of the people I worked with over the years with folks named Sandeep and whatnot...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 05:00 AM (ExV1e)

31 @22/I used to have a different nic:

The last paragraph gave me a bit of hope. Everything else had me wanting to tell you to find another company before the eventual large-scale layoffs hit.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 05:00 AM (O7YUW)

32 Rock Me Amadeus lyrics

https://archive.is/YqwFS

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 05:01 AM (CQE5S)

33 Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 23, 2025 04:55 AM (BLOW1)

Thanks. It's good to know my hearing isn't going- yet.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:01 AM (2GCMq)

34 FenelonSpoke

What did you say?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 05:03 AM (u82oZ)

35 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:51 AM (O7YUW)

Thanks. I'll try that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:03 AM (2GCMq)

36 Anyone have any idea why my phone screen is jumping around so much, and why I would get the "a problem repeatedly occurred" when accessing this site? Thanks
Posted by: FenelonSpok

I have this issue. Are you on iphone/safari browser? Personally I think the culprit is the big ad bar that appears at bottom of the site. Started happening after that was added. If you are having too many problems, a sort of cheesy hack is to kill the page’s loading right when you get there then click comments link to read the full content of a post.

Posted by: H at June 23, 2025 05:07 AM (2gjbv)

37 Up early because of a number of chigger bites I got on a hike yesterday. I am a provident deity to those chiggers, but the bites hurt a lot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 05:07 AM (u82oZ)

38 @25/NaCly Dog: "Excellent news. Are you going to drive in the Summer?"

Maybe, but leaning towards not. I could use some downtime. The last month has been ... tiring.

"Remember, you are only as good as your next turn. And focus in needed for the last few days."

Good advice. As I tell my wife every morning, "Stupid is legion out there, be careful."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 05:07 AM (O7YUW)

39 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at June 23, 2025 05:08 AM (AN2gy)

40 @30/I used to have a different nic:

"Well... in exactly 100 days I'm giving my boss the good news that I'm retiring so it doesn't bother me all that much."

Okay, this made me feel better about your situation.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 05:12 AM (O7YUW)

41 Time to get ready for the morning walk.


Be safe, Salty!


BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 23, 2025 05:13 AM (a1415)

42 The spiritual power of compliments:

https://tinyurl.com/57dp4uja

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:13 AM (2GCMq)

43 I took a look at OpenWRT's banana-pi based hardware router, and while it looks interesting, the price nearly doubles trying to get this thing into Canada due to tariffs. Ugh. No thanks, I'll stick with the hardware I have (TP-Link Archer C7 AC-1750 v5.0).

I just wish the OpenWRT project would get around to upgrading the software for the C7 to the new DSA (Distributed Switch Architecture.)

Also: G'morning, fluffy!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 05:16 AM (O7YUW)

44 Posted by: H at June 23, 2025 05:07 AM (2gjbv)

Thanks. I am so much of a tech dope that I don't know if I am a safari or visiting scenes cites in Africa.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:16 AM (2GCMq)

45 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 23, 2025 05:20 AM (DfkdK)

46 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

You are so lucky if you do not encounter chiggers on your walk.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 05:20 AM (u82oZ)

47 olddog in mo

How was the lake?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 05:20 AM (u82oZ)

48 Hi G 'n' R

Posted by: fluffy at June 23, 2025 05:20 AM (AN2gy)

49 @24/Pixy Misa: "It's mostly in German, with some words borrowed from English."

He seems to do that a lot. "Jeanny" has the verses in German and the chorus in English.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 05:21 AM (O7YUW)

50 Evening and morning, late toilers and early Monday risers! Yes, 'tis Monday, but always remember:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:24 AM (omVj0)

51 The "Rock Me, Amadeus" video: The version I hear on the '80s oldies station here is (pretty much) in English, with the spoken narration of dates in Mozart's life in the middle of it. Yeah, the '80s were peculiar. I'd give a lot to have the first half of the decade back -- but they were peculiar.

I used to have a different nic, congratulations on your retirement! My advice, having done this all of once, is start making sure of your finances *now*. Don't assume; start arranging everything way in advance. It'll prevent a lot of fussing later. I thought I had everything lined up, and I really didn't.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:29 AM (omVj0)

52 The H method is the only way to load the site on my iPhone.

Posted by: Accomack at June 23, 2025 05:35 AM (IG7T0)

53 Old time hymn written by Elisha Hoffman, a minister who died around 1909. He wrote about 2000 hymns . The hymn is "Leaning in the Everlasting Arms" here done by the Gaither band.
I have fond memories of a couple of files in the first congregation which I served who sang this together. The handsome, kind Christian husband with a lovely voice who enjoyed singing this hymn parachuted into France after D Day. I miss them.

https://tinyurl.com/ftu263wt

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:35 AM (2GCMq)

54 53- "folks " not " files"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:36 AM (2GCMq)

55 Posted by: H at June 23, 2025 05:07 AM (2gjbv)

I will try that. Thanks!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:40 AM (2GCMq)

56 I must scrape up the motivation to go for my walk this am.

Other errands and chores are on my slate for today; the shoe repair place may have my leather briefcase ready, I have to pick up some cat chow and some Whole Foods stuff for which Linda has coupons, etc. In fact this whole week will be busy. At least most of the events will be fun ones.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:41 AM (omVj0)

57 I used to have a different nic, congratulations on your retirement! My advice, having done this all of once, is start making sure of your finances *now*. Don't assume; start arranging everything way in advance. It'll prevent a lot of fussing later. I thought I had everything lined up, and I really didn't.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:29 AM (omVj0)


I've had a CFP for several years and my wife has been retired for a bit. All that's left is moving my 401k over to our main investment accounts. We've got things set up for growth / income with CD ladders so that we shouldn't ever have to sell into a down market.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 05:41 AM (ExV1e)

58 52-core CPUs in a laptop, from Intel: I hope someone does a power-drain graph when the cores are fully loaded, showing how long it takes to deplete the laptop's battery from full charge.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

There will not be enough time to measure that. The Qualcomm execs are ordering new Ferraris.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:42 AM (NXz8h)

59 I've had a CFP for several years and my wife has been retired for a bit. All that's left is moving my 401k over to our main investment accounts. We've got things set up for growth / income with CD ladders so that we shouldn't ever have to sell into a down market.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025


***
Good to hear that! What does "CFP" stand for? Certified Financial Plan?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:43 AM (omVj0)

60 The more Musk speaks about AI, the less I think of him.

Posted by: Accomack at June 23, 2025 05:44 AM (IG7T0)

61 Looks like I'm headed into my last week of formal employment. Customer decided to axe all the subs to cut costs.

Things are grim for me finding another gig as a 70 YO engineer. I'm definitely not obsolete as I have seriously marketable skills but at some point it becomes damn near impossible to get past HR no matter how desperate the employer is for qualified people.

I got tossed out of the Space Center at 55 along with a bunch of other folks when they shut down the shuttle program. I've been working mostly as a sub since then.

My health as definitely deteriorated over the last couple of years so I don't think I can continue job hopping around the country anymore.

I did make it back to Brevard County where I have lived most of my life. I really like it here so I've got that going for me.

I'm pretty worried about acclimating to the real world because I'm a hard-core workaholic.

Posted by: pawn, last one standing at June 23, 2025 05:47 AM (W23tn)

62 What does "CFP" stand for? Certified Financial Plan?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:43 AM (omVj0)


Planner, but yes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 05:48 AM (ExV1e)

63 On the non-fun events list this week is the Tues. appt. with the surgeon about my (I hope, mild) hernia. On the fun side, a classic John Wayne/Jean Arthur movie is running at the local library on Wed. evening, a new local Aldi opens on Thurs. with a special 8 am event*, and my pipe club meets Thurs. evening.

Friday I intend to do gloriously nothing. Oh, maybe I'll go out to breakfast . . . though in the hot weather that is not much fun.

* I'll drop Miss L. off there and go have a coffee. No way I want to stand in line in even 7:30 am heat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:48 AM (omVj0)

64 Well if recent history is a guide, quadruple down on forcing AI on the customers. If they refuse, lobby government and have them force AI on customers. YOU WILL HAVE AI CITIZEN!!!

Sadly, you're 100% correct on that. And any upstart company who tries to go the "No AI" route will get shut down from all the regulations that are suddenly in place for our protection.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 05:48 AM (svLOV)

65 I got nuthin'

But guten tag anywho

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 05:52 AM (OdwzK)

66 Imagine mentally substituting "sledgehammer" in place of "AI" in all the el corpo hypespeak.

You can do anything with Slegehammer! All your problems will disappear if you buy Sledgehammer!

Sledgehammers are great. They're very good to have when you need one. Sometimes you need a three pounder, sometimes an eight or a ten. But I'm not using one to file my taxes or manage my employees. That would be borderline rude.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:53 AM (BjH5D)

67 Time to change and stretch for my walk. I'll look at the heat index when I get back, and no doubt have a retroactive nervous breakdown.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:54 AM (omVj0)

68 I'm pretty worried about acclimating to the real world because I'm a hard-core workaholic.
Posted by: pawn, last one standing at June 23, 2025 05:47 AM (W23tn)


You need to find a 'job' for yourself then. Maybe hang out here and correct people's spelling / grammar.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 05:54 AM (ExV1e)

69 Have a great day, everyone.

Head on a swivel and have a plan, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 23, 2025 05:56 AM (u82oZ)

70 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 23, 2025 05:57 AM (lIgBp)

71 Yesterday I went to my first ever stretching and balance class. Normally I do only cardio and resistance training, so I thought this would be not very interesting or challenging. Boy, was I ever wrong.

Conclusion: I seriously need to work on my balance and flexibility.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 05:58 AM (OdwzK)

72 Another old time hymn "I sing the almighty power of God" by Issac Watts. Nice scenery on the background:

https://tinyurl.com/57czkw3p

I hope everyone has a blessed day and knows that you are a blessing to others

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:59 AM (2GCMq)

73 NOTE THE TIME IS SOOOOON

ULA - Atlas V 551 - Project Kuiper 2
SLC-41 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 23, 2025
Launch Time: 6:54 a.m. EDT, 1054 UTC, 12:54

https://www.youtube.com/live/6DpfQPwRjTo

Posted by: Ciampino - SOOOONS at June 23, 2025 05:59 AM (sPQoU)

74
You know what's best about the mostly peaceful bombing of Iran?

Not even that Pentagon Whore Warmonger propagandist Jennifer Griffin was privvy to any info.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 06:01 AM (XRtzn)

75 Well if recent history is a guide, quadruple down on forcing AI on the customers. If they refuse, lobby government and have them force AI on customers. YOU WILL HAVE AI CITIZEN!!!

We’re having a brief reprieve from the pronoun, transgender , and microaggression nonsense. What businessperson in their right mind wants to deal with the fragility of today’s human mental illness and possibly get sued for an ambiguous discriminatory work environment laws.

Let’s face it, if the wrong party gets in political power again, they’re going right back to an anti-capitalist posture. I’m glad I’m on the back nine of life. Who has the energy for onerous regulation and laws that don’t make sense. Have you heard of xenopronouns? If that gets implemented into society through a legal framework, forget trying to run a business with mentally disturbed individuals.

Posted by: Unkaren at June 23, 2025 06:04 AM (LPL2Y)

76
I'm in the market for a black-toner laser printer that has wifi and auto-duplex printing. Preferably one without the nasty chip that won't print without factory cartridge.
Price Under $120.

My wonderful Samsung had one too many flights from the table to the floor -- thank you cats.

Now HP makes Samsungs!!

Posted by: Ciampino - Nooooo! at June 23, 2025 06:04 AM (sPQoU)

77 forget trying to run a business with mentally disturbed individuals.

The trick is finding a way to do business without dealing with them and lying through your teeth when anyone challenges you.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 06:08 AM (svLOV)

78
Wait, what??

Russia is buying drones from Iran? Iran is some maker of great drones??

Or...OR...is china making these drones for Iran, and using Iran as a proxy?

DJI makes quite sophisticated drones (and we let them, for some reason.)

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 06:15 AM (XRtzn)

79 I'm in the market for a black-toner laser printer that has wifi and auto-duplex printing. Preferably one without the nasty chip that won't print without factory cartridge.
Price Under $120.

Brother DCP-L2640DW refurbished for $160 from Amazon.

Numerous second sources for the chipped toner carriage.

Finding a cheaper duplex printer is going to be difficult.

Posted by: pawn, last one standing at June 23, 2025 06:15 AM (W23tn)

80 My Canon printer/scanner has been outstanding for several years of meritorious service. Can recommend, fwiw.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:18 AM (C6IUx)

81 I'm shocked. This is a tech thread and you're telling me no one has bought a cheap laser printer in the last year? Possibly embarrassed at your purchase?

I'm looking for both recommendations or caveats.

Posted by: Ciampino - Noooooo! at June 23, 2025 06:18 AM (sPQoU)

82 Margaret Brennan must go home at night feeling deflated.

I mean, who likes being outclassed day after day by better informed, more intelligent people?

https://tinyurl.com/5b9vm23u

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:21 AM (C6IUx)

83
I cued it up:

Listen to this fucking fake news idiot lament about Iran not being able to "trust" the USA to make a peace deal:

https://is.gd/rgnUZs

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 06:22 AM (XRtzn)

84 Oops- my Canon does not meet your specification, sorry. Its an ink jet, not laser.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:22 AM (C6IUx)

85 82 Margaret Brennan must go home at night feeling deflated.

I mean, who likes being outclassed day after day by better informed, more intelligent people?

https://tinyurl.com/5b9vm23u

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:21 AM (C6IUx)
----
But does she know/is aware of that?

Posted by: Ciampino - she's a robot at June 23, 2025 06:24 AM (sPQoU)

86 @76/Ciampino: "I'm in the market for a black-toner laser printer that has wifi and auto-duplex printing. Preferably one without the nasty chip that won't print without factory cartridge.

Search for a toner tank version, no toner cartridges, so no DRM chips to get in your way.

Not sure if you'll find one in your price range.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 06:25 AM (O7YUW)

87
Don't get me started on the Big Toner scam!

They should all be indicted, prosecuted, and imprisoned for their racket.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 06:25 AM (XRtzn)

88 Well, I see both 82 and 83 put the moron focus on that silly bint, Brennan at CBS. See both videos for a real flavor!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:25 AM (C6IUx)

89 Last week the Apple Weather app told me it was going to be 100F this coming Friday with temps close to that for most of the week with no rain.

Somewhere in the last few days that completely changed to 94 today and 97 tomorrow and the rest of the week will hover around 90F with rain towards the end of the week.

But they are absolutely certain they can exactly predict the climate 50 years from now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:25 AM (6ydKt)

90 Margaret Brennan must go home at night feeling deflated.

Ever since JD humiliated her so easily, she's been craving more of the same treatment.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 23, 2025 06:26 AM (svLOV)

91 But does she know/is aware of that?
Posted by: Ciampino - she's a robot at June 23, 2025 06:24 AM (sPQoU)
------------------
All she has to do is watch the video, or maybe the CBS bosses avoiding her in the hallway give her a good hint.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:27 AM (C6IUx)

92 Last week the Apple Weather app told me it was going to be 100F this coming Friday with temps close to that for most of the week with no rain.

Somewhere in the last few days that completely changed to 94 today and 97 tomorrow and the rest of the week will hover around 90F with rain towards the end of the week.

But they are absolutely certain they can exactly predict the climate 50 years from now.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:25 AM (6ydKt)


Yesterday, both the Windows and Apple weather apps said that I had 0% chance of rain while it was raining at my house. If they cannot get the weather right fucking now correct...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 06:29 AM (ExV1e)

93 Okay, it's time for work. I'll resurface in time for the rant, maybe.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 06:29 AM (O7YUW)

94 I like my Brother B&W laser printer a lot. It does duplex. It's much too big for any cat to knock it to the floor.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 23, 2025 06:29 AM (lIgBp)

95
Still T - 24 mins for liftoff.

Posted by: Ciampino - she's not SpaceX at June 23, 2025 06:30 AM (sPQoU)

96 Saw a video clip of two OF persons talking...

Girl1: I'm a virgin.
Girl2: Don't you collab with guys?
Girl1: Sure, but that's for work. It's like a tax write-off.
Girl2: Oh, that makes sense.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 06:32 AM (ExV1e)

97 You know Margaret Brennan is serious when she gives you the disapproving librarian look and keeps her pen in her hand while interrogating you about how you’re doing it wrong and why can’t you be better?

She simply will not be satisfied until she catches somebody in an egregious lie or mistake so she can finally claim victory over a despised ‘other’.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:32 AM (6ydKt)

98 90 Margaret Brennan must go home at night feeling deflated.

Ever since JD humiliated her so easily, she's been craving more of the same treatment.
Posted by: NR Pax
...............................
It's part of the kink.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 06:32 AM (sAmhv)

99 94 I like my Brother B&W laser printer a lot. It does duplex. It's much too big for any cat to knock it to the floor.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 23, 2025 06:29 AM (lIgBp)
----
Thanks. I have found a Brother at Walmart that meets my specs but I was not familiar with the brand.

Posted by: Ciampino - she's not HP, phew! at June 23, 2025 06:35 AM (sPQoU)

100 My laptop has an Intel 24 core CPU in it along with an 16” screen.

II ever unplugged the thing while using it I’d guesstimate I’ll get about 4 hours on battery at most.

It already sound like a Dustbuster vacuum at full load so I have no idea how they are going to cool double the cores in a 52 core version.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:35 AM (6ydKt)

101 Back from my walk. It's mid 70s and 89% humidty. Little uncomfortable. Going to be 100 the next three days. Humidity will probably be in the 90s. Combine an oven with a greenhouse. Yay.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 06:37 AM (sAmhv)

102 Brother makes great printers. Before HP took a dump they were just about as good as HP.

Posted by: pawn doesn't want to go on the cart at June 23, 2025 06:37 AM (W23tn)

103 99
Imagine a printer on rubber feet (not sticky unfortunately) on a smooth table (yes well ...). A 20lb cat launches itself from a ways, lands on the printer and both skid off the table.

Posted by: Ciampino - he's big but he's mine at June 23, 2025 06:39 AM (sPQoU)

104 With a smile on her face, Anna Paulina Luna cuts California Senator Cryin' Padilla into small pieces

https://tinyurl.com/ye9sm5tr

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:40 AM (kKPAi)

105 90 Margaret Brennan must go home at night feeling deflated.
Posted by: NR Pax

By now I've come to the conclusion that she's a republican prop, who deliberately asks stupid questions the way a straight man sets up a comic.

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 06:40 AM (j4U/Z)

106 Yesterday, both the Windows and Apple weather apps said that I had 0% chance of rain while it was raining at my house. If they cannot get the weather right fucking now correct...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 23, 2025 06:29 AM (ExV1e)

I’m starting to think they are using AI to predict the weather and it’s hallucinating the forecasts.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:42 AM (6ydKt)

107 Wow. @JonathanACBrown is a “professor of Islamic civilization” at @Georgetown.

He just said he hopes Iran does a “symbolic strike” on a US military base.

https://tinyurl.com/58djavak

Posted by: Ciampino - deport or tire iron at June 23, 2025 06:44 AM (sPQoU)

108 I use Brave on my phone for AoS and have not had any issues with screen jumping. Brave blocks a lot of stuff out of the box so that may be why.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 23, 2025 06:44 AM (WPL6O)

109 "Islamic civilization" is an oxymoron.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 23, 2025 06:44 AM (WPL6O)

110 I’m starting to think they are using AI to predict the weather and it’s hallucinating the forecasts.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:42 AM (6ydKt)
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Its just JJ's weather machine screwing with the meteorologists, for fun and profit

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:45 AM (kKPAi)

111 You can't replace the trades (electricians, plumbers, welders, etc.) with AI. I am telling my grandchildren to forget white collar. Learn a trade - start a company.

Posted by: Java Joe at June 23, 2025 06:45 AM (WaLgG)

112
T - 7 mins

Posted by: Ciampino - deport or tire iron at June 23, 2025 06:47 AM (sPQoU)

113 103 99
Imagine a printer on rubber feet (not sticky unfortunately) on a smooth table (yes well ...). A 20lb cat launches itself from a ways, lands on the printer and both skid off the table.
Posted by: Ciampino - he's big but he's mine at June 23, 2025 06:39 AM (sPQoU)

Something tells me you don’t have to imagine this scenario at all.

You could glue the replacement printer to the table or use some Gorilla tape.

But then the cat would probably knock the entire table over.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:47 AM (6ydKt)

114 BTW - send your children and grandchildren to welding school. The next 16+ years of Republican POTUS will see the need for American made ships for our Navy. Get to it now.

Posted by: Java Joe at June 23, 2025 06:48 AM (WaLgG)

115 Morning peeps.

Speaking of weather forecasts, we've got someone at the local NWS office who writes up the text for the "forecast discussion" part who fancies themself a writer. Some days the 'story' for the day/week's weather is amusing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 06:48 AM (Q4IgG)

116 Nuclear certified welders make big bucks.

Posted by: pawn doesn't want to go on the cart at June 23, 2025 06:49 AM (W23tn)

117 107 Wow. @JonathanACBrown is a “professor of Islamic civilization” at @Georgetown.

He just said he hopes Iran does a “symbolic strike” on a US military base.

https://tinyurl.com/58djavak

Posted by: Ciampino



How much does Georgetown cost?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 06:51 AM (sAmhv)

118 I've installed a number of Brother laser printers and haven't had issues with any of them. It's what I use at home, though I haven't had a need to print anything in a couple of years.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 23, 2025 06:51 AM (WPL6O)

119 "You could glue the replacement printer to the table or use some Gorilla tape."

3M double sided tape, also known as "supervisor tape" (two-faced), would probably solve this problem.

I use it to keep my microwave from creeping off it's shelf from all the door slams it gets.

Posted by: pawn doesn't want to go on the cart at June 23, 2025 06:53 AM (W23tn)

120
It's peculiar, no?

They keep telling us these mad mullahs have "nothing to do with islam." But as soon we spank these mullahs, all these muslim "professors" take it personally. Why is that?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 23, 2025 06:53 AM (r0L7U)

121 Its just JJ's weather machine screwing with the meteorologists, for fun and profit
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 06:45 AM

I’d be forever grateful if he’d just drop the humidity here by about 50%.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:53 AM (6ydKt)

122 Some days the 'story' for the day/week's weather is amusing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 06:48 AM (Q4IgG)

It’s probably a pretty boring job 95% of the time.
Gotta spice up your day somehow.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:56 AM (6ydKt)

123 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 06:56 AM (alnxS)

124 3M double sided tape, also known as "supervisor tape" (two-faced), would probably solve this problem.

I use it to keep my microwave from creeping off it's shelf from all the door slams it gets.
Posted by: pawn doesn't want to go on the cart at June 23, 2025 06:53 AM (W23tn)

That’s what I meant as well.

Gorilla makes rolls of double-sided tape strips, and some small pre-cut squares in packages, to use for jobs like this.

I use them to keep a few things in place.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 06:59 AM (6ydKt)

125 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Vivaldi?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 23, 2025 06:59 AM (XZ5S6)

126
Remember, you will have repeated blackouts and your electricity bill will soar so that the AI nobody can figure out if they really need or for what can spread and dominate your life.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:00 AM (QnmlO)

127

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 23, 2025 07:01 AM (5hfjS)

128 Well that rocket system was a bit different to the usual ones we see.

Posted by: Ciampino - interesting at June 23, 2025 07:03 AM (sPQoU)

129 I should add that Gorilla’s tape claims it’s “permanent” as in; you can take it back off if you need to, but you’re probably going to need a chisel and it’s going to take some paint, drywall, wood, and/or plastic with it when you pry it off.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:05 AM (6ydKt)

130 Remember, you will have repeated blackouts and your electricity bill will soar so that the AI nobody can figure out if they really need or for what can spread and dominate your life.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 23, 2025 07:00 AM (QnmlO)

So not really much different from the socialist left, then.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:08 AM (6ydKt)

131 Good old Atlas.

The last of the the great ELVs.

Atlas launch parties were seriously crazy back in the day.

Go ATLAS! Go Centaur!!!

Posted by: pawn doesn't want to go on the cart at June 23, 2025 07:10 AM (W23tn)

132 Printers are obsolete. Just scan everything into your phone and put it on MySpace or Facebook so when Prince Akeem Jilliyjobba asks for money it's just point and click.

Do try to keep up.

Posted by: Old Fart Scammed Every 5 Minutes at June 23, 2025 07:14 AM (PzyNU)

133 Prayers for travel mercies,please.

Posted by: Eromero at June 23, 2025 07:17 AM (LHPAg)

134 "Gorilla makes rolls of double-sided tape strips, and some small pre-cut squares in packages, to use for jobs like this.

I use them to keep a few things in place.
Posted by: SpeakingOf "

Me too!

Posted by: Big Mike at June 23, 2025 07:18 AM (vFG9F)

135 Did everyone go get coffee waiting on JJ?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:19 AM (6ydKt)

136 Atlas- $153 million for this launch
SpaceX- $97 million list price per launch

Or, so says the internet.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:20 AM (F9slB)

137 Me too!
Posted by: Big Mike at June 23, 2025 07:18 AM (vFG9F)

lol.

I hope it’s hairless because that’d be painful.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:21 AM (6ydKt)

138
JJS

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 23, 2025 07:21 AM (gbOdA)

139 Are the Atlas rockets reusable or like the old one&done versions from the 60s & 70s?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 23, 2025 07:22 AM (6ydKt)

140 Back from my walk. It's mid 70s and 89% humidty. Little uncomfortable. Going to be 100 the next three days. Humidity will probably be in the 90s. Combine an oven with a greenhouse. Yay.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025


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About the same here, Puddleglum. It's 82 F. with 88 heat index now, at 6:30 am. Prob. about 94 today with heat index in the I Don't Want to Know range.

I dread going out at 2:30 pm tomorrow for the dr. appointment.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 07:30 AM (omVj0)

141 Brother-loving Ilhan Omar:

Sleep in comfort, knowing I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system
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She doesn't even try hiding her allegiance

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 07:32 AM (+h4Za)

142 Nood - Sefton

Posted by: Old Toby at June 23, 2025 07:39 AM (eqWxE)

143 He's a terrible candidate- who unfortunately- has a lot of money behind him, has a huge social media presence and is a good speaker and is an attractive man who would be a disaster for NYC Mayor , but I did laugh when the "NY Post" editors called Zohran Mandani a "lefty 'it' boy and a "failed rapper."who was boo-hooing the bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 07:44 AM (2GCMq)

144 Whoops-wrong spot

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 07:45 AM (2GCMq)

145 off, sock

Posted by: Chuck C at June 23, 2025 10:17 AM (D0HYP)

146 I think it was also Falcon that sang Mozart War Ein Punker.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 23, 2025 11:13 AM (lFFaq)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread - June 22, 2025 [Doof]

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Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday ONT. You know the drill -- skim the content, jump into the comments, go back and look at the content again, repeat one or more of those things. No matter how YOU take your ONT, we're glad you stopped by. C'mon in!

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Kewl Stuff over in The UK

Tiny Robots Can Help Fix Leaky Old Water Pipes Without Having to Dig Up Roads

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Tiny robots could help fix leaky water pipes without having to dig up roads and sidewalks, thanks to a British team.

The miniature machines called ‘Pipebots’ are the same size as a toy car and can track down leaks underground. They can also identify potential issues before they even become a problem.

University researchers say the Pipebots could revolutionize how water infrastructure is managed and help save some of the nearly 800 million gallons of water lost through leaky pipes every day in England and Wales.

Read the whole thing. Very ingenious engineering.


Here is a video which is included in the story



Anyone familiar with this technology and/or seen applications here in the States?

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Meanwhile, in Spain

Hell hath no fury like a - (checks notes) - Beekeeper(??) scorned

Angry Beekeeper Sets Bees on Police During Routine Traffic Stop

A 70-year-old Spanish beekeeper was so upset about being stopped by traffic police that he set his bees on the officers, causing them to take shelter in a restaurant.
An unusual incident took place last Friday, on the N-II road in Cervera, a small town in the Catalonian province of Lleida. A local police patrol noticed that the driver of a van wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and was driving erratically, so they pulled him over. The 70-year-old man immediately set the tone of the interaction with the phrase “I should have run you over!” and things only got more heated from then on.

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“Now I’m going to kill you,” the irritated beekeeper allegedly shouted at the traffic cops

Check out the whole story.

Somehow, my brain now recalls 2 times when bees were featured / mentioned on Cheers



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Dudes Being Dudes

Why??



Ummm...



Hell yeah



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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)

It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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Royal Ascot 2025: A Spectacular Display of Fashion and Tradition

Royal Ascot, Britain’s iconic five-day horse racing event, rivals our beloved TxMoMe in its blend of prestige and sartorial splendor. Renowned for its world-class equestrian competition, it’s equally celebrated for its strict dress code, which inspires a dazzling parade of high fashion and theatrical flair.

Leading the daily royal procession, King Charles and Queen Camilla set the tone. My favorite of Queen Camilla’s looks was a stunning silvery-blue bespoke Dior coat dress, paired with a matching Philip Treacy hat. She carried a white Launer London Tosca clutch and wore neutral Chanel cap-toe pumps in beige and black. The true showstopper? Her Cullinan V Diamond brooch, so exquisite I suspect the dress was designed to showcase it.

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Princess Anne, ever pragmatic, made waves by recycling a chic outfit from 1987. Did she think we’d forget? And could that be a young Prince William?

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Princess Beatrice turned heads throughout the event. On day one, she glowed in a Beulah London Gabriella pink and white gingham tweed blouse, paired with a matching Arabella skirt. Her ensemble was completed with Jennifer Chamandi Vittorio 105 pumps in sand patent leather with a white toe cap, an Anya Hindmarch Mortimer clutch, and a sculpted sand-colored scroll percher hat by Juliette Botterill.

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On day three, Beatrice went bolder with a vibrant Monique Lhuillier sunflower floral day dress that I’m absolutely obsessed with! She accessorized with a Justine Bradley-Hill Camellia Crystal beret, bisque suede Gianvito Rossi 105 pumps, and a white alligator Mark Cross Romy clutch.

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Zara Tindall, a personal favorite (we’ve ridden together, so I’m a bit biased), stole the show on day three with an elegant black-and-white ensemble. Her ivory Laura Green Camille shirt dress was paired with a bespoke Juliette Botterill boater hat, a black Mulberry Amber clutch, and Laurence Costello Cosima earrings. She added a playful touch with Jacques Marie Mage Kellerman sunglasses in brut. The highlight, though, was her recycled Emmy London Rebecca pumps, adorned with Emmy London Golden Dome clips. Shoe clips—are they making a comeback?

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For the gentlemen, Prince Edward proved timeless style reigns supreme with a vintage Hermès Equestrian 7371 tie in pink (and yes, it’s pronounced ehr-mez, not air-maize). A nod to classic craftsmanship that never goes out of fashion.

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Royal Ascot is more than a horse race—it’s a celebration of British heritage, where men in morning suits and top hats and women in stunning dresses with statement hats create a regal spectacle. It is a perfect blend of formality and theatricality.

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Thank you, Piper - for providing the Sunday ONT content that people actually look forward to.


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DJ Doof - This Date in Music History Version
from thisdayinmusic.com

On this date in 1969: actress and singer Judy Garland died at the age of 47. Known most famously for her role as Dorothy Gale in 1939’s The Wizard of Oz, Garland was a multi-hyphenate icon of Hollywood’s Golden Era, appearing in such hit films as Meet Me in St. Louis, Easter Parade, and A Star Is Born.



Born on this date in 1961: Jimmy Somerville, UK singer, who with Bronski Beat had the 1984 UK No.3 single 'Smalltown Boy'.



Bonus Bronski Beat
Why?
Hit That Perfect Beat

Born on this date in 1957: Gary Beers, bassist from Australian rock band INXS, who has sold over 55 million records worldwide.

Bonus INXS
Don't Change, Live 1985
Suicide Blonde

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1 Howdy!

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 09:51 PM (rF2iL)

2 The LA County Sheriffs Dept can die in a fire.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:51 PM (dDmld)

3 Premature ONT delivery, but six weeks in a blog incubator could be the difference between life and death.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:53 PM (dDmld)

4 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 09:54 PM (cYBz/)

5 Hola Horde!

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 22, 2025 09:54 PM (hftn9)

6 It R hot.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 22, 2025 09:55 PM (hftn9)

7 Coocher or Koo-toour?

We report, you decide.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:56 PM (dDmld)

8 We had our Eucharistic Procession today along the main drag of town. That was all fine and good but one of the gals walked the entire mile or so in a pair of kick-ass high heels.

Impressive!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 09:56 PM (cYBz/)

9 Sorry I'm late, I was looking for a Walmart in Iran.

What a waste of time thst was.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 09:59 PM (FVLcK)

10 Happy Summer!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:00 PM (p4NUW)

11 Evenin'

youtu.be/tU2HybDGJHQ

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2025 10:02 PM (sAmhv)

12 *checks watch*

*shakes wrist*

*realize I haven't worn a watch in several decades*

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:50 PM

The Ace of Spades Union of Firstness Competitors objects to this early posting.

Harruummph.

(Gonna go check out the content anyway)

Hiya, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Huh. It's still light out. at June 22, 2025 10:02 PM (3ssNj)

13 Last Eucharistic Procession that I attended was broken up by militant Episcopalians on skateboards.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 10:02 PM (dDmld)

14 Kudos to the beekeeper -- it looks like he blew a .38 and lived to tell about it.

Now BUZZ OFF!

Posted by: lurk at June 22, 2025 10:03 PM (7IOVT)

15 There's still one thing I don't understand about the Iran bombing raid. It was code named "Midnight Hammer". Why use Tim Walz's scout leader nickname?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2025 10:03 PM (pIfcn)

16 Royal Ascot 2025: A Spectacular Display of Fashion and Tradition

Not pictured: anyone wearing an ascot. Silly Brits.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 10:04 PM (DgGvY)

17 Great VH song under pic! Gets me nostalgic for my mid 80s yute.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2025 10:04 PM (sAmhv)

18 FESTIVE LITTLE HATS!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 10:05 PM (/B+k3)

19 I want everyone to know I wrote the content AND sent it to Doof before the jokes were made about me doing a write up of MoMe fashion, so that is why I was laughing last night about it.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (p4NUW)

20 Evening all..
.

Posted by: Caf at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (/+mVZ)

21 As much of the nation is looking at a hot spell, we're way below normal, and there was snowfall not far from here.

Weather is weird.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (0aYVJ)

22 Sorry I'm late, I was looking for a Walmart in Iran.

What a waste of time thst was.
Posted by: tankdemon
**************
OK, that may be your best excuse ever...and that is saying something...

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

23 Somewhere out there, in that vast sea, a Great White is lurking

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (0eaVi)

24 16 Royal Ascot 2025: A Spectacular Display of Fashion and Tradition

Not pictured: anyone wearing an ascot. Silly Brits.
Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 10:04 PM

No, no, no. It’s held IN Ascot. Not wearing them!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (p4NUW)

25 Ascots are for poofters

CHANGE MY MIND

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (dDmld)

26 "Midnight Hammer".

That's what she said!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (/B+k3)

27 The miniature machines called ‘Pipebots’ are the same size as a toy car and can track down leaks underground.

* ponders Hot Wheels car *

* ponders those battery-powered things that kindergarteners drive around in *

"The same size as a toy car" is quite a range.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (DgGvY)

28 Somewhere, a sex-toy company is mad that they didn't trademark "pipebot" before those pipe-repair bots took the name.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 10:08 PM (DgGvY)

29 If I remember correctly, and I probably didn't, didn't equestrian events mimic knightly skills? Assuming I'm right, where are the swords, maces, battleaxes, shields, helms, and armor?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 10:08 PM (S/Y4j)

30 No, no, no. It’s held IN Ascot. Not wearing them!
Posted by: Piper


Oooooooh.

Ascots are for poofters
CHANGE MY MIND
Posted by: Cicero


Good thing, then.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 10:09 PM (DgGvY)

31 Well this is certainly a well-rounded ONT!
Thanks DOOF! And Piper😆!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 22, 2025 10:09 PM (ZwGHJ)

32 Sorry I'm late, I was looking for a Walmart in Iran.

What a waste of time thst was.
Posted by: tankdemon
**************
OK, that may be your best excuse ever...and that is saying something...
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

That's probably still harder than finding a china shop in Iran with unbroken stock.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 10:09 PM (S/Y4j)

33 Good evening y'all...obviously Sir Doof was paying attention at the NoVA MoMe, as I skimmed the content, jumped into the comments, and possibly went back and looked at the content again, etc.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

34 2 The LA County Sheriffs Dept can die in a fire.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:51 PM (dDmld)

As if the skilled and competent leadership of the LA Fire Department would ever let that happen.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:10 PM (FVLcK)

35 Thanks for another dandy ONT, Doof!

Love the photo up top. The dog is having a great time!

Thanks to Piper for the Ascot fashion show. Always a treat!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 22, 2025 10:10 PM (kB9dk)

36 I want everyone to know I wrote the content AND sent it to Doof before the jokes were made about me doing a write up of MoMe fashion, so that is why I was laughing last night about it.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (p4NUW)


Well, since you weren't there, I can report that Doof STUNNED in his untucked blue button down shirt and light khaki shorts, which he flawlessly paired with slightly darker khaki Hey Dudes and no-show socks.

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10:10 PM (RFPHU)

37 Miss the old Ascot raceway in socal.
Though the last motorcycle crossed its finish line more than three decades ago, Ascot Park Speedway, located in Gardena, California, continues to live on as one of the most incredible flat track motorcycle racing venues in the sport’s history.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 10:11 PM (/B+k3)

38 If I remember correctly, and I probably didn't, didn't equestrian events mimic knightly skills? Assuming I'm right, where are the swords, maces, battleaxes, shields, helms, and armor?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 10:08 PM (S/Y4j)

What do you think the polo mallet and ball derived from?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 10:11 PM (J+OHH)

39 Good evening morons en bedankt Disco

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 10:12 PM (RIvkX)

40 a bespoke Juliette Botterill boater hat

bespoke /bĭ-spōk′/
adjective
Custom-made. Said especially of clothes.

Ah! A word I've known of all my life but never had any idea what it meant until now. top-hat tip to Piper for the vocabulary upgrade.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Huh. It's still light out. at June 22, 2025 10:12 PM (3ssNj)

41 You have to wonder if the Upper Class Twits have it in the contract with the Muslims that they will be continued to pretend it is 1932 in public in the future. And if the contract will be honored.

Posted by: azjaeger at June 22, 2025 10:12 PM (3/XaG)

42 Those Fashion pics are of Brits? Why are they not wearin Burkas?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 10:12 PM (mP0Kj)

43 Triumph the favorite, a Honda won. Crowd bummed.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 10:12 PM (/B+k3)

44 Any news today from Sock Monkey, about his brother?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at June 22, 2025 10:13 PM (Eo96p)

45 22 OK, that may be your best excuse ever...and that is saying something...
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

Thank you.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:13 PM (FVLcK)

46 When I see photos of those ridiculous fucking toffs, I don't care that they're being taken over by muslims.

Posted by: eff 'em at June 22, 2025 10:13 PM (zUe/H)

47 no-show socks.
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10

Bless you for this. And yes, I am actively ignoring the comment about me not being there.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:13 PM (p4NUW)

48 Why men tend to die younger than women Part XXXIV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfrWCV9aXU

Pulse jet powered rickshaw.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (sZI8v)

49 Ascots are for poofters

CHANGE MY MIND
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (dDmld)


Fred from Scooby Doo disagrees as he's enjoying some alone time with Daphne

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (RFPHU)

50 Petting Fluffy.

https://is.gd/BZJV4P

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (L/fGl)

51 23 Somewhere out there, in that vast sea, a Great White is lurking
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (0eaVi)

Really? Where? I'm feeling a bit peckish.

Posted by: Orca (aka Oreo Dolphin) at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (FVLcK)

52 2008, passing through Frankfurt Airport on our way to Namibia, my ex (a horsewoman) visited the Hermes’ shop and saw a set of horse brushes on sale for $1200.

This shocked even her, so she inquired with the sales lady, who confirmed the price, saying “Well, it is ehr-mez.”

Posted by: Marty at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (ELmyf)

53 What do you think the polo mallet and ball derived from?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 10:11 PM (J+OHH)

Croquet

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2025 10:15 PM (pIfcn)

54 40 Ah! A word I've known of all my life but never had any idea what it meant until now. top-hat tip to Piper for the vocabulary upgrade.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Huh. It's still light out. at June 22

I am always a helper!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:15 PM (p4NUW)

55 Is Piper going to cover the train smash women at Ainsley?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:15 PM (0eaVi)

56 Thanks for the royal couture Piper

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 10:15 PM (RIvkX)

57
I must have missed something. What is going on with the LA Sheriffs?

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 10:16 PM (3ek7K)

58 Diamond and most of their clothing aside, Charles and Camilla look like they'd blend right in at a tractor pull or flea market.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 10:16 PM (Riz8t)

59
Fred from Scooby Doo disagrees as he's enjoying some alone time with Daphne


Daphne, I think I found a clue.

In my pants.

Seriously, check it out

Posted by: Suave Fred at June 22, 2025 10:17 PM (t0Rmr)

60 I thought an Asset was a little donkey. And an Ascot was a little donkey's bed.

Wonderful fashions from Piper, as usual.

Posted by: Hugo Boss Hogg at June 22, 2025 10:17 PM (G5+As)

61 25 Ascots are for poofters

CHANGE MY MIND
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (dDmld)

I have never seen Buttigeig or Obama in an ascot, yet Fred Jones always has one.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:17 PM (FVLcK)

62 Those of us who have had the privilege of living in LA are not a bit surprised by the LA Sheriff's posts....karma is coming...

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

63 Well, it's not Hobby Thread but anyway . . .

https://is.gd/3mdzkn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 10:17 PM (L/fGl)

64 It R hot.
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 22, 2025 09:55 PM (hftn9)

Amazingly cool here, today, Admiral.

(salute)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:18 PM (0eaVi)

65 Rover don't surf!

Posted by: Col Kilgore at June 22, 2025 10:18 PM (i0F8b)

66 no-show socks.
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10

Bless you for this. And yes, I am actively ignoring the comment about me not being there.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:13 PM (p4NUW)


Aww - you like my ankles, huh?

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10:18 PM (RFPHU)

67 55 Is Piper going to cover the train smash women at Ainsley?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10

Are those the drunken less than modestly attired crew?

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:19 PM (p4NUW)

68 It seems ridiculous to wear stiletto heels on turf. Unless they're just walking on the balls of their feet, they would be nailed to the grass. I do appreciate that they still put on the dog, though.

Posted by: Beverly at June 22, 2025 10:20 PM (Epeb0)

69 I see Beatrice has given up on the insane hat couture. She looks quite nice now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 10:21 PM (sZI8v)

70 Shin guy is mad as a hatter.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2025 10:22 PM (XV/Pl)

71 I see Beatrice has given up on the insane hat couture. She looks quite nice now.
Posted by: Anna Puma
********
I have to wonder how much of that is due to marrying a wealthy Italian.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

72 Angry Beekeeper Sets Bees on Police During Routine Traffic Stop
-
Not the bees...Ahhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: Nic Cage, Police Squad at June 22, 2025 10:22 PM (Dnobf)

73 Aww - you like my ankles, huh?
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10:18 PM (RFPHU)

Ha! Okay, I am off to bed. Enjoy the royals and Doof’s outstanding taste in music! Night y’all!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:23 PM (p4NUW)

74 a bespoke Juliette Botterill boater hat

bespoke /bĭ-spōk′/
adjective
Custom-made. Said especially of clothes.

Ah! A word I've known of all my life but never had any idea what it meant until now. top-hat tip to Piper for the vocabulary upgrade.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Huh. It's still light out. at June 22, 2025 10:12 PM (3ssNj)


Spelling bee contestant: "Can you use it in a sentence?"

Moderator: "It is advised that immigrants learn English because that's what bespoke here in the USA."

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10:23 PM (RFPHU)

75 Fred from Scooby Doo disagrees as he's enjoying some alone time with Daphne
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (RFPHU)

Fred wears a neckerchief. Ascots are little donkey's beds.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:24 PM (0eaVi)

76 Grateful

Maybe a professional stylist with a riding crop to reign Beatrice in?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 10:25 PM (sZI8v)

77 Yay, National HVAC Tech Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 22, 2025 10:25 PM (lUFok)

78 Roggy Ryle!

Posted by: Scooby at June 22, 2025 10:25 PM (i0F8b)

79 70 Shin guy is mad as a hatter.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I once housed 16,000 of such unfortunates. For their own and society's protection.

Posted by: Pilgrim State Hospital Bldg. 23 at June 22, 2025 10:25 PM (G5+As)

80 I don't understand the plot of Small Town Boy at all.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 10:27 PM (Riz8t)

81 #57
What's going on with LA sheriffs?

They don't want to do any real work.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 10:27 PM (ilX37)

82 - SOON - SOON - SOON-
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-23
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 23, 2025
Launch Time: 1:25 a.m. EDT, 0525 UTC, 0725 CEST

https://www.youtube.com/live/fOFAMHKphHw

Posted by: Ciampino - go for speed at June 22, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU)

83 https://x.com/nicksortor/status/
1936946030098174427

The LA Sheriff's Dept sends its thoughts and prayers to the Iranians injured or killed by the United States Air Force

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:28 PM (AOsQT)

84 My Fair Lady Ascot finery
https://youtu.be/uNgsAcSJdAg

And the new small talk
https://youtu.be/P_5RyXYhdP8

Posted by: mindful webworker - absolutely smashing at June 22, 2025 10:28 PM (3ssNj)

85 https://is.gd/3mdzkn
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 10:17 PM (L/fGl)

The third stick is a skeleton.

Such a wife should be getting plenty of stick action.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (0eaVi)

86 I love that Princess Anne is wearing an outfit from 1987, and I'm impressed that it is so classic and timeless that it's an attractive choice in 2025.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (rF2iL)

87 80 I don't understand the plot of Small Town Boy at all.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 10:27 PM (Riz8t)

A lady from a small town heads into the hig city. A lot of high-pitched caterwauling ensues.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (FVLcK)

88 Remember when ace would post a link and it would end up being a picture of the London Boys? I can't find that image anywhere. Maybe ace bought it and turned into an NFT.

If you remember, could you help a moron out? Me, I mean.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (CHHv1)

89 Maybe a professional stylist with a riding crop to reign Beatrice in?
Posted by: Anna Puma
******
that must be it! and worth every sterling pound!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

90 2 The LA County Sheriffs Dept can die in a fire.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:51 PM (dDmld)
-------
"If the LA County Sheriff's Dept needs rescuing from a fire, they got themselves in the wrong spot."

- LA firefighting lesbian

Posted by: 496 at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (TvPmY)

91 Are those the drunken less than modestly attired crew?
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:19 PM (p4NUW)

Yes.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:30 PM (0eaVi)

92 87 Despite my joke, I do actually like that song. Bronski Beat is one of the thousands of bands in my Pandora rotation.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:30 PM (FVLcK)

93
51 degrees here in SW Wyoming. Going down to 32 in the morning. Actually I love this weather. I hate hot weather.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 10:31 PM (3ek7K)

94 Somewhere, a sex-toy company is mad that they didn't trademark "pipebot" before those pipe-repair bots took the name.

They're hoping to be the first to file a Trademark on "Midnight Hammer" when the USPTO opens on Monday.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 22, 2025 10:32 PM (lUFok)

95 >>> University researchers say the Pipebots could revolutionize how water infrastructure is managed and help save some of the nearly 800 million gallons of water lost through leaky pipes every day in England and Wales.

They lose 800 MGD because they suck ass in maintaining their infrastructure. Importing shitloads of mus scum who don't even know what plumbing is will not help.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 10:33 PM (/lPRQ)

96 Fodrow (sp?) is now literally a hole in the ground

https://tinyurl.com/3mt6fymp

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:33 PM (AOsQT)

97 50 Petting Fluffy.

https://is.gd/BZJV4P

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 10:14 PM (L/fGl)
-------
Well, she was wearing crocs.

Posted by: 496 at June 22, 2025 10:33 PM (LPgB/)

98 Ahoy, morons.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 22, 2025 10:34 PM (4oL1T)

99 25 Ascots are for poofters

CHANGE MY MIND
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (dDmld)
----
If you've ever had an unbelievably painful neck and shoulder sunburn (me!) then you will appreciate silk ascots.

Posted by: Ciampino - prove your point at June 22, 2025 10:34 PM (sPQoU)

100 I wore a pocket square for the first time in my life last week. Folded it and everything.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:34 PM (rj6Yv)

101 A lady from a small town heads into the hig city. A lot of high-pitched caterwauling ensues.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (FVLcK)

Lad, not Lady, you stupid autocucumber algorithm. I swear to all that is holy, rampant incompetence like this is the reason AI will never be able to ignite a global thermonuclear war like it has been dreaming of.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:34 PM (FVLcK)

102 four season, yep. 37 overnight in the Bitterroot of MT and we have a frost warning. New snow above 6000 feet. A beautiful rainbow 30 minutes ago that looked like I could find a pot of gold at its end.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 10:36 PM (2NHgQ)

103 102 four season, yep. 37 overnight in the Bitterroot of MT and we have a frost warning. New snow above 6000 feet. A beautiful rainbow 30 minutes ago that looked like I could find a pot of gold at its end.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 10:36 PM (2NHgQ)

This is the wrong month to be chasing rainbows.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 10:37 PM (FVLcK)

104
Husband reminded me of this today.

Bernie Goldberg said "expecting Congress to vote for term limits is like expecting pigs voting for Jimmy Dean"

Goldberg wrote great books.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 10:38 PM (3ek7K)

105 Tootled through Glacier Bay last week. Stunning. Snow and ice in June. Came home earlier today to 100F in NC. Woof.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:39 PM (rj6Yv)

106 I wore a pocket square for the first time in my life last week. Folded it and everything.
Posted by: mrp

Wait until you try the "pocket penetrometer".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 10:39 PM (/lPRQ)

107 96 Fodrow (sp?) is now literally a hole in the ground

https://tinyurl.com/3mt6fymp
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:33 PM (AOsQT)


Thank you for the photos.

I feel like my team won the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 10:40 PM (rF2iL)

108
neverenoughcaffeine,

I love the weather here in Wyoming. It's never boring. Last week it was in the 90's and, who knows, next week we could have a blizzard. Last Independence Day we had to wear winter coats while we were outside shooting off fireworks.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 10:41 PM (3ek7K)

109 Wait until you try the "pocket penetrometer".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 10:39 PM (/lPRQ)


Didn't have a chance to use it. TSA confiscated it, said it was a threat to polite society.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:42 PM (rj6Yv)

110
They lose 800 MGD because they suck ass in maintaining their infrastructure. Importing shitloads of mus scum who don't even know what plumbing is will not help.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

___________

Sheeeeeeee

Posted by: DEI Hires in Jackson, MS at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (QnmlO)

111 I mean, there is actually a hole in the Earth's crust where the target used to be

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (AOsQT)

112 If you remember, could you help a moron out? Me, I mean.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2025 10:29 PM (CHHv1)

=====

This one?
https://is.gd/aFiEw3

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (oqwM8)

113 four season, same with us, we hate really hot weather. Just spoke to family in AZ and it’s 100+ there. I prefer 68 as a high.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (2NHgQ)

114 That last photo is AlextheChick battling giant spiders!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (kpS4V)

115 The LA Sheriff's Dept sends its thoughts and prayers to the Iranians injured or killed by the United States Air Force
-
Jokes on them, Iran says they evacuated the facility.

Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (Dnobf)

116
Bernie Goldberg said "expecting Congress to vote for term limits is like expecting pigs voting for Jimmy Dean"

It's Tennessee Pride Month!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 10:45 PM (63Dwl)

117
*saloon doors bang open*

G'd evenin', Hordians

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 10:45 PM (QnmlO)

118
Did the LA Sheriffs really say that?? We've had family here most of the day so I couldn't keep up with the news.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 10:45 PM (3ek7K)

119 I wore a pocket square for the first time in my life last week. Folded it and everything.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:34 PM (rj6Yv)


Here is hoping you were wearing a sports jacket or something similar, and not, for example, Speedos.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)

120 I'm in the market for a
My wonderful Samsung had one too many flights from the table to the floor -- thank you cats.

Posted by: Ciampino - lovely printer at June 22, 2025 10:47 PM (sPQoU)

121
On this date in 1969: actress and singer Judy Garland died at the age of 47.

__________

Case study in Hollywood destroying young people's lives.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 10:48 PM (QnmlO)

122 23 -- Orcas have discovered Great Whites have very tasty and nutritional livers. Great Whites have been avoiding one of their preferred gathering spots. That spot is being patrolled by a couple of Orcas named Port and Starboard. If the situation is as dire as being presented, I think Port and Starboard should be permanently retired.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 22, 2025 10:48 PM (5Aycr)

123 Here is Judy Garland singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RBOBFTnW04

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 10:48 PM (0Htd1)

124 "Jokes on them, Iran says they evacuated the facility."

Color me skeptical but I don't believe the mullahs.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 22, 2025 10:49 PM (89Sog)

125 The LA Sheriff's Dept sends its thoughts and prayers to the Iranians injured or killed by the United States Air Force
-
Jokes on them, Iran says they evacuated the facility.
Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 10:43 PM (Dnobf)


Damn. I had to research that. No wonder DJT had to nationalize the CA NG. The Sheriff's Department is rooting for the other side.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:49 PM (rj6Yv)

126 Just don't go swimming in Lake Fordow

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 10:49 PM (sZI8v)

127 I've noticed that the older Princess Anne becomes, the more she resembles her mother.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 22, 2025 10:50 PM (5Aycr)

128
Too bad we can't cut off all Federal money to California.

Fuck them.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 10:50 PM (3ek7K)

129 The guy went apiary-shit!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 10:51 PM (2yoRf)

130 If I remember correctly (and I may not)

Scooby’s real name is Tralfaz. Wait, no… The dog on the Jetsons. Astro. Real name is Tralfaz.

Should be able to win a bar bet with that. Thank me later.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 10:51 PM (DqnOM)

131 Monday is trying to sneak up on me. I'm going to fool it by heading for bed now.

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - so much for Sunday at June 22, 2025 10:51 PM (3ssNj)

132 83 https://x.com/nicksortor/status/
1936946030098174427

The LA Sheriff's Dept sends its thoughts and prayers to the Iranians injured or killed by the United States Air Force
Posted by: Don Black
........................................
C'mon man, how in the hell is The Babylon Bee going to keep up with this timeline.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2025 10:51 PM (sAmhv)

133 Here is hoping you were wearing a sports jacket or something similar, and not, for example, Speedos.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)

My nearly-antique blue blazer with the shiny brass buttons. My sisters told me that I looked "dapper". I had to agree.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:51 PM (rj6Yv)

134 Any news on Jay Guevara?

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at June 22, 2025 10:53 PM (iNp3L)

135 “I’m going to kill you guys!” said the beekeeper.

That really stings.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 10:53 PM (DqnOM)

136 25 Ascots are for poofters

CHANGE MY MIND
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)


Then why was Prince Edward wearing a pink tie?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 10:53 PM (0Htd1)

137 107 96 Fodrow (sp?) is now literally a hole in the ground

https://tinyurl.com/3mt6fymp
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:33 PM (AOsQT)

Thank you for the photos.

I feel like my team won the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 10:40 PM (rF2iL)


No nuke weapons work by Iran?

Putin advisor Anatoly Medvedev lets the cat out of the bag
https://tinyurl.com/3j6rw3ky

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 10:54 PM (aBgBM)

138 Any news on Jay Guevara?
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at June 22, 2025 10:53 PM (iNp3L)


What happened to Jay?

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:55 PM (rj6Yv)

139 That yellow dress is horrid. The other lady, on the other hand, is wearing a pretty yellow dress.

I like the current version of Princess Anne's do over ensemble. Looks nice on her

Posted by: BonnieBlue at June 22, 2025 10:55 PM (x/30j)

140 120
I don't know what happened to my #120.

I'm in the market for a black-toner laser printer that has wifi and auto-duplex printing. Preferably one without the nasty chip that won't print without factory cartridge.
Price Under $110.

My wonderful Samsung had one too many flights from the table to the floor -- thank you cats.

Posted by: Ciampino - lovely printer or paperweight at June 22, 2025 10:56 PM (sPQoU)

141 In other news, the Iranian Revolutionary Government says they are going to make rude gestures and blow raspberries at any Western vessel passing thru the Straits of Hormuz

Posted by: azjaeger at June 22, 2025 10:56 PM (3/XaG)

142 We left out the word 'county'

LA County Sheriff's Dept tweeted that shit

We regret the error. Those responsible have been sacked. -Ed.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:57 PM (AOsQT)

143 Then why was Prince Edward wearing a pink tie?
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 10:53 PM (0Htd1)


Because pink goes with grey and he's wearing a grey tux/suit.

I had a patterned pink tie to go with a charcoal grey suit when I had to go to the salt mines.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 10:58 PM (gKDq2)

144 The LA Sheriff's Office exhorts all Muslims to jihad and congratulates them on their future martyrdom!

Posted by: LA Sheriff's Office, Actual
To Encourage and Tweet at June 22, 2025 10:59 PM (zUe/H)

145 I’m going to kill you guys!” said the beekeeper.

That really stings.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 10:53 PM (DqnOM)

Put up or shut up. Don't drone on about it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 22, 2025 10:59 PM (dR6yv)

146 In other news, the Iranian Revolutionary Government says they are going to make rude gestures and blow raspberries at any Western vessel passing thru the Straits of Hormuz
Posted by: azjaeger at June 22, 2025 10:56 PM (3/XaG)

If they dared, it would likely be the shortest naval campaign in the last 100 years.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:59 PM (rj6Yv)

147 Yes it's summer and I hate hot weather. And when winter comes I'll hate cold weather. I'm built that way.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 10:59 PM (ilX37)

148 We regret the error. Those responsible have been sacked. -Ed.
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 10:57 PM (AOsQT)

Unfortunately, "sacked" here does not mean they were treated like unwanted kittens.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 11:00 PM (FVLcK)

149 Sacked is too kind of punishment.

Stockade, rotten fruit, and then it gets worse

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:01 PM (sZI8v)

150 146 In other news, the Iranian Revolutionary Government says they are going to make rude gestures and blow raspberries at any Western vessel passing thru the Straits of Hormuz
Posted by: azjaeger at June 22, 2025 10:56 PM (3/XaG)

If they dared, it would likely be the shortest naval campaign in the last 100 years.

And they may go so far as to taunt them a second time

Posted by: azjaeger at June 22, 2025 11:01 PM (3/XaG)

151 What did the LA county Sheriff’s actually put out?

“We pray those MFers die in a fire” (for example), is technically thoughts and prayers if you stop and think about it. What did they say? Was it an inadvertent message? By mistake?

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 11:02 PM (wNEJY)

152 In other news, Tehran accuses that Trump's mother smells of elderberries.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:02 PM (sZI8v)

153 The LA Sheriff's Office is sponsoring free clitoridectomies at the A.S.P.C.A.

Posted by: LA Sheriff's Office, Actual
To Encourage and Tweet at June 22, 2025 11:03 PM (zUe/H)

154 " Fodrow (sp?) is now literally a hole in the ground"

I hope so, but all I actually see are some holes in the ground. Same for the other two sites. Experts seem to say the damage is excessive. I can only hope.

Does seem the attacks on Israel are lessening, and so far no attacks on US assets. Would be nice to see the "passive majority" take power in Iran, but the "fascist regime" still seems in control. tick tock, I guess.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2025 11:03 PM (vbXSk)

155
The only thing about winter is dealing with snow. My husband is 76 and he goes out to shovel the snow so we can get out of the driveway. Our lawn service only plows commercial parking lots and anymore the days of neighborhood kids coming to your house to shovel for money are long gone.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:03 PM (3ek7K)

156 Pipeline "pigs" have become increasingly sophisticated, and have been adapted to other types of pipe systems. Brits are wayyy behind if this is newsworthy...

Posted by: Man at June 22, 2025 11:04 PM (tubbA)

157
2 The LA County Sheriffs Dept can die in a fire.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:51 PM (dDmld)

-----

What did they do?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 22, 2025 11:04 PM (QwK6F)

158 Nearly everything can be tied to the Bible, The Godfather, and The Holy Grail.

Posted by: azjaeger at June 22, 2025 11:05 PM (3/XaG)

159 Because pink goes with grey

Sure, Jan

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 11:05 PM (wNEJY)

160 Wait a minute. Isn't an Ass Cot just fancy name for a chair? I don't think there's anything royal about it, unless it has really nice cushions. I mean, really nice. Not the ones with the duck prints on it.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2025 11:05 PM (dIske)

161 Together, we must seize control of the weather machines from the Joos.

Posted by: LA Sheriff's Office, Actual
To Encourage and Tweet at June 22, 2025 11:06 PM (zUe/H)

162 The holes in the ground are nice but the real program killer is if all electrical power has been knocked out.

Gaseous diffusion, centrifuges, and uranium in a gaseous form means all of the primary equipment to make an atomic bomb's fissile material is now radioactive junk.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:07 PM (sZI8v)

163 One more time

The LA County Sheriff's Dept tweet, since deleted

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/
1936974350999281811

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 11:08 PM (AOsQT)

164 That last photo is AlextheChick battling giant spiders!

If that's AtC, then aren't those just normal sized spiders?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 22, 2025 11:09 PM (lUFok)

165 That's a Golden Retriever in the top pic! The only way you're getting him out of the water is by reminding him that there's loose sand to dig! 😁

Posted by: pookysgirl thinks Goldies are awesome at June 22, 2025 11:09 PM (Wt5PA)

166 The only thing about winter is dealing with snow. My husband is 76 and he goes out to shovel the snow so we can get out of the driveway. Our lawn service only plows commercial parking lots and anymore the days of neighborhood kids coming to your house to shovel for money are long gone.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:03 PM (3ek7K)

My parents lived in a small town in MI in the middle of the Lake Michigan snowbelt. One of the town council members had his driveway declared a public street (including a street sign) and public workers plowed it routinely.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 11:09 PM (rj6Yv)

167 Hello, Horde! 😊💕

Still not tired of winning 🎉🎉🎉

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 22, 2025 11:10 PM (SRRAx)

168 >" Fodrow (sp?) is now literally a hole in the ground"

I hope so, but all I actually see are some holes in the ground.

---

I know
that's why I said it was a hole in the ground

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 11:10 PM (AOsQT)

169 Pic at top:

what is the dog thinking

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 11:10 PM (AOsQT)

170 Eventually, the cops smoked the guy out.
/beekeeper humour

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (2yoRf)

171
mrp,

Yep if one is "connected" stuff gets done.

We are surrounded by members of a certain "religion" and they consider us heathens, so we can fuck off.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (3ek7K)

172 California has had term limits for decades. Ever since simeone thought it was a way to get even with Willie Brown. How does that idea look now? Is everybody happy? Our US Senators are Whats his name Schiff and Jose Padilla. Term limits. California. Decades.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (QSrLX)

173 >>> Gaseous diffusion, centrifuges, and uranium in a gaseous form means all of the primary equipment to make an atomic bomb's fissile material is now radioactive junk.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:07 PM (sZI8v)


I imagine the entire area is deadly to even be near now.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (cduTK)

174 Princess Beatrice. Woof.

They still stick to the toffs to marry?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (dDmld)

175 162
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:07 PM (sZI8v)
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Minor correction: corroded radioactive junk.

Posted by: Ciampino - how much money was invested? at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (sPQoU)

176 Because pink goes with grey

Sure, Jan
Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 11:05 PM (wNEJY)


Believe what you want.

I also wore it with a blue seersucker suit for that summer pastel look. Alternated with the fuscia tie to 'change' appearance.

Pink. It's a color.

Screw the gays. Waitaminnut. . . .

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 11:11 PM (gKDq2)

177 The only thing about winter is dealing with snow. My husband is 76 and he goes out to shovel the snow so we can get out of the driveway. Our lawn service only plows commercial parking lots and anymore the days of neighborhood kids coming to your house to shovel for money are long gone.

https://tinyurl.com/3sbuasua

You may be able to find something cheaper if you shop around.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 22, 2025 11:12 PM (lUFok)

178
We're in a town of 2500 population. Not any options here.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:14 PM (3ek7K)

179 The LA Sheriff's Dept sends its thoughts and prayers to the Iranians injured or killed by the United States Air Force
Posted by: Don Black


Maybe he should send his thoughts and prayers to the many crime victims in LA. Geez, when Newscum runs for president, sheriff can be the VP pick. That way they can bring their colossal failure to the rest of the country.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:14 PM (0Htd1)

180 165 That's a Golden Retriever in the top pic! The only way you're getting him out of the water is by reminding him that there's loose sand to dig! 😁
Posted by: pookysgirl thinks Goldies are awesome at June 22, 2025 11:09 PM (Wt5PA)
___________________________

Soooooooooo true. I took my Black Lab down to Hilton Head a couple years ago. All day in the water. Digging in the sand. Then sitting still with a silly ass grin on her face while I brushed the salt accumulations off her fur every evening.

Posted by: Orson thinks Black Labs are cool too. at June 22, 2025 11:14 PM (dIske)

181 Beatrice has large feet.

This is probably just a beneficial adaptation for wading through the fens.


I pity her victims, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 11:15 PM (D7oie)

182 The LA Sheriff's Dept sends its thoughts and prayers to the Iranians injured or killed by the United States Air Force
Posted by: Don Black

Maybe he should send his thoughts and prayers to the many crime victims in LA. Geez, when Newscum runs for president, sheriff can be the VP pick. That way they can bring their colossal failure to the rest of the country.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:14 PM (0Htd1)

If both are from California, it will be Newsome and Bass on the ticket. They'll recreate the magic of the Biden/Harris years!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 11:16 PM (S/Y4j)

183 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 11:16 PM (gkxH4)

184 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 11:16 PM (gkxH4)


It is lunchtime in Seoul

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 11:17 PM (D7oie)

185 Bass on the ticker?

That will certainly inflame the voters.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:17 PM (sZI8v)

186 but the real program killer is if all electrical power has been knocked out.
———

I’m skeptical anyone would be dumb enough not to have triple redundant electrical power, to include battery backup, diesel generators, etc, located underground as well. In other words, just taking out AC transmission lines above ground probably isn’t enough.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 11:18 PM (1Ggkx)

187 I believe it was reported that Jay had a brain bleed? UPdate? Prayers ascending.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at June 22, 2025 11:19 PM (iNp3L)

188 183 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 11:16 PM (gkxH4)

--------

*nods knowingly*

*puffs pipe thoughtfully*

Posted by: S. Kierkegaard at June 22, 2025 11:21 PM (dDmld)

189 Diesel generators require fuel, how much was on hand?

Battery backup, I have no idea if there are battery packs large enough.

Plus I have to wonder if the brief instance of time as the system switches power sources will it mess up the centrifuges?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:22 PM (sZI8v)

190 >>> 23 Somewhere out there, in that vast sea, a Great White is lurking
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:07 PM (0eaVi)

I'm too shy to comment.

Posted by: Great White Shark at June 22, 2025 11:23 PM (ULPxl)

191 Has LA Sheriff's office ever sent condolences to any American family after losing a loved one who was murdered by any Iranian proxies?

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 11:24 PM (gkxH4)

192 Sno-blowers aren’t expensive. I mean, compared to strokes and heart attacks.

Who the fuck shovels? Seriously.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 11:24 PM (1Ggkx)

193 >>> 47 no-show socks.
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 10

Bless you for this. And yes, I am actively ignoring the comment about me not being there.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 10:13 PM (p4NUW)

There is no cattle round-up at the NoVa MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 11:26 PM (ULPxl)

194 My wonderful Samsung had one too many flights from the table to the floor -- thank you cats.
Posted by: Ciampino - lovely printer or paperweight


At least you have cats to blame. The reason I get an iphone is because it can take the many drops to the floor. No cats, just me being clumsy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:26 PM (0Htd1)

195 We left out the word 'county'

LA County Sheriff's Dept tweeted that shit

We regret the error. Those responsible have been sacked. -Ed.
Posted by: Don Black


Don't beat yourself up over it. I understood that sheriff is a county position.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:27 PM (0Htd1)

196 What did the LA county Sheriff’s actually put out?
They don't put out unless you buy them dinner, cheapskate.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:29 PM (0Htd1)

197 147 Yes it's summer and I hate hot weather. And when winter comes I'll hate cold weather. I'm built that way.
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 10:59 PM (ilX37


Whenever someone would ask me how I was liking the cold winter weather here in the mid south, I would reply that I was looking forward to complaining about the heat.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 11:29 PM (rF2iL)

198 Well I’m not conversant in gaseous diffusion of isotopes, but I think the idea would be to supply aux power long enough to shut everything down safely, that kind of thing.

I mean, the whole point of an underground facility, under a mountain, sort of calls into question this notion of “peaceful” intent in the first place doesn’t it?

But it does require an underground power supply, safe from bombing attacks or other disruption, otherwise what’s the point? I can’t imagine it would be left that vulnerabile.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 11:31 PM (1Ggkx)

199 Has LA Sheriff's office ever sent condolences to any American family after losing a loved one who was murdered by any Iranian proxies?
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 11:24 PM (gkxH4)


While I appreciate law and order, and firemen, this is why I also am skeptical when it comes to police. Too many departments are very liberal. This now deleted post is a result of that liberalism: A hatred of America while supportng those who shout 'Death To America' for breakfast. But . . . but this came from cops! How do we fight this? I don't get it. Is TDS so strong as to allow them to root for those who kill Americans? I guess so. We've seen Congresscritters go to bat for illegals a hell of a lot harder than they go to bat for Americans. So anything's possible. Like I said, I don't get it. Maybe I'm not supposed to.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 11:34 PM (gKDq2)

200 L.A. Sheriff, full of skit?

From all I've read (retired; news junkie), the number of "Iranians killed by the USAF" on Friday was the same as New Orleans Saints Super Bowl rings; German victories in World Wars, and Best Actress Oscars won by Pia Zadora.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 11:34 PM (kd60y)

201 Thought LA County Sheriff at the moment was non-idiotic, i.e., has cooperated with ICE etc (in ways not violating the insane SB57, that is). Could be wrong. Have no idea about the stupid tweet. Who knows who has access to that function.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 11:36 PM (1m82a)

202 172 California has had term limits for decades. Ever since simeone thought it was a way to get even with Willie Brown. How does that idea look now? Is everybody happy? Our US Senators are Whats his name Schiff and Jose Padilla. Term limits. California. Decades.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey


The problem with California is that it is overrun with liberals. Term limits doesn't solve that. I'm assuming that that dickhead sheriff is a democrat.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:36 PM (0Htd1)

203
Uranium centrifuge enrichment plants don't handle highly radioactive material. They handle uranium hexafluoride, a gas, which is chemically reactive and toxic, but only slightly radioactive.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 22, 2025 11:37 PM (uz6ub)

204 Texan reads his electric bill like it was a Faulkner short story

youtu.be/5g9RE-EJCY0?





"Now I'm shackled, betrayed and bound by wattage and poor choices"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 11:38 PM (D7oie)

205
It is a small area we have to shovel out. Not worth the expense of a snowblower. We shovel enough to get out the vehicle we can drive on the snowy roads.

The asshole neighbors around us have snowblowers and they know how old we are. Will they help? No fucking way because we aren't of the "religion".

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:38 PM (3ek7K)

206 I pay for seasonal snowplowing for my driveway, and it is expensive. I couldn't even tell you how much it is because I prefer not to think about. I just write that big, fat check, and then I can hear them out there plowing my driveway at 3 A.M. It's a nice sound.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:39 PM (0Htd1)

207 My favorite stupidity has been the outrage of SecDef Hegseth saying"our boys" when one of the pilots was a girl. Clearly the man must resign immediately....

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2025 11:40 PM (YwEeS)

208
steevy,

I wondered if we had a female pilot flying the mission.

Kudos to her!!

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:41 PM (3ek7K)

209 @192

>> Who the fuck shovels? Seriously.

When you’re young and full of limitless energy, you can shovel, when you reach the advanced age of 29, you need to mechanize.

I have three snow blowers, and back that’s not breaking.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2025 11:42 PM (XV/Pl)

210
Maybe the LA Sheriff Dept's now-deleted whiny, handwringing tweet was posted by a fat lesbian communist who couldn't get hired by the LA County Fire Dept.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 22, 2025 11:42 PM (uz6ub)

211 If both are from California, it will be Newsome and Bass on the ticket. They'll recreate the magic of the Biden/Harris years!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


Oh, that's right. Can't have two white men. That would just be wrong.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:42 PM (0Htd1)

212 The problem with California is that it is overrun with liberals. Term limits doesn't solve that. I'm assuming that that dickhead sheriff is a democrat.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:36 PM (0Htd1)


Jungle primaries also help ensure Democrat rule in a majority Democrat state. Term limits won't fix that, either.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 11:43 PM (gKDq2)

213 As someone pointed out there are very few females B-2 crew so now they made her easy to find. Congrats Fox News on your great scoop.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2025 11:44 PM (YwEeS)

214 192 Sno-blowers aren’t expensive. I mean, compared to strokes and heart attacks.

Who the fuck shovels? Seriously.
Posted by: Common Tater


I have neighbors who have John Deere riding lawnmowers, along with snowplow blades. They're expensive, but seem to do the job well. There might even be some reliable brands cheaper than the John Deeres.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:45 PM (0Htd1)

215 >>> 208
steevy,

I wondered if we had a female pilot flying the mission.

Kudos to her!!
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:41 PM (3ek7K)

There has been no such announcement.

What I *have* read is that there are so few female B-2 pilots (and I'd assume that there aren't that many men either, but...) that if there was one included in the mission and Hegseth had hinted / confirmed such, he might as well have given her full name.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 11:46 PM (ULPxl)

216 >>> 213 As someone pointed out there are very few females B-2 crew so now they made her easy to find. Congrats Fox News on your great scoop.
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2025 11:44 PM (YwEeS)

Oh *has* there been? Stupid asshoes.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 11:47 PM (ULPxl)

217 215 See here

https://instapundit.com/727702/

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2025 11:47 PM (YwEeS)

218 changing my post 200:

to "number of Best Actress Oscars won by Kim Kardashian."

Nobody remembers Pia Zadora any more. She was Kirk Kerkorian's GF. It was said of Pia's film career, "She slept her way to the middle."

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 11:48 PM (kd60y)

219 I wondered if we had a female pilot flying the mission.

Kudos to her!!

----------


That explains why they had to stop in Diego Garcia to ask directions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 11:48 PM (dDmld)

220 207 My favorite stupidity has been the outrage of SecDef Hegseth saying"our boys" when one of the pilots was a girl. Clearly the man must resign immediately....
Posted by: steevy
...................................
Well, besides stupid people addicted to grievance, there are people who also don't understand operational security. How many Female pilots are there in the B-2 bomber ranks? Probably 1, maybe 2. They would be a target, mostly from the Democrats paramilitary wing, anti-fa. Islamists too, of course.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2025 11:49 PM (sAmhv)

221 >>> 214
==
I have neighbors who have John Deere riding lawnmowers, along with snowplow blades. They're expensive, but seem to do the job well. There might even be some reliable brands cheaper than the John Deeres.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:45 PM (0Htd1)

Maybe search for a used riding mower that will take a snowplow blade and make that its primary job.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 11:49 PM (ULPxl)

222 Nobody remembers Pia Zadora any more. She was Kirk Kerkorian's GF. It was said of Pia's film career, "She slept her way to the middle."
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 11:48 PM (kd60y)

----------

*ahem*

I paved the way.

Posted by: Marian Davies at June 22, 2025 11:50 PM (dDmld)

223
Hubby and I were talking about the pilots of the B2's today.

To us they are heroes who did an awesome job. We don't need to know who they are because assholes will harass them and their families.

We hope they know how awesome we know they are and many thanks for what they did.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:50 PM (3ek7K)

224 That was Jennifer Griffin and our friends at FoxNews

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2025 11:50 PM (YwEeS)

225 We went to see "28 Years Later" this afternoon. I was thinking it was a very incomplete movie, but then I learned they filmed a sequel at the same time. Hopefully they tie together all of the disparate elements. I'm withholding final judgment until then. Release date for part two is January 2026.

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2025 11:52 PM (TgNVd)

226 203
Uranium centrifuge enrichment plants don't handle highly radioactive material. They handle uranium hexafluoride, a gas, which is chemically reactive and toxic, but only slightly radioactive.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 22, 2025 11:37 PM (uz6ub)
----
As the % of U-235 increases the radioactivity increases?

Posted by: Ciampino - how much money was invested by Iran? at June 22, 2025 11:52 PM (sPQoU)

227 What I *have* read is that there are so few female B-2 pilots

Have they looked at the pool of fat, lesbian communists?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 22, 2025 11:54 PM (0Htd1)

228 >>> 224 That was Jennifer Griffin and our friends at FoxNews
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2025 11:50 PM (YwEeS)

Don't recognize her, but these idiots should maybe consider there are still people who watch lots of teewee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 11:56 PM (ULPxl)

229

nerdygirl,

Fuck em. Oh wait, never mind, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 11:56 PM (3ek7K)

230 I've been quite impressed with Jennifer Griffin's reporting from the Pentagon. She seems to have good sources.

I've noticed that when one of the talking heads on FOX says something really interesting, the anchors tend not to pick up on it, & rarely ask a follow-up question.

Posted by: mnw at June 23, 2025 12:00 AM (kd60y)

231
mnw,

Probably because most of them are given a certain "talking point". Heaven forbid someone would have an opinion that differs from the talking points.

Spineless assholes.

STAND UP FOR AMERICA!!

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:04 AM (3ek7K)

232 If an Iranian sleeper terrorist shows up near Whiteman AFB (home of the B-2s) in Knob Noster, MO, he'll have a hard time blending in!

Posted by: mnw at June 23, 2025 12:06 AM (kd60y)

233 Stupid 3AM wakeup call - just for one blithering ballistic missile?!?!?!

What's wrong with them!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:08 AM (Kc33O)

234
mnw,

We have so many assholes in this country they might wave them right in.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:08 AM (3ek7K)

235 Was MTG born yesterday?

Community notes for the easy win:

https://tinyurl.com/3y5ahe5c

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:10 AM (Kc33O)

236
Biden's Dog,

They are assholes and clearly we have not taken out most of them.

Hubby and I pray for you all every day.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:10 AM (3ek7K)

237 If they dared, it would likely be the shortest naval campaign in the last 100 years.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2025 10:59 PM (rj6Yv)

I think Tehran will order it; but we’re at the point where the men on the scene will be thinking long and hard as to whether or not this is a Good Day to Die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 12:14 AM (EVFZ5)

238
My husband doesn't read ACE.

Everyday he asks me how is your friend and family in Israel.

So many care about you all and keep praying.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:14 AM (3ek7K)

239 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:14 AM (bss/y)

240 Princess Anne, ever pragmatic, made waves by recycling a chic outfit from 1987.

--

She still fits into clothes she wore *counts on fingers* 38 YEARS AGO?!

Also, big advantage of living in castles must be gigantic closets or something.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 23, 2025 12:16 AM (Splbu)

241 If Pia Zadora married 49ers corner back Ronny Lott?

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 12:19 AM (uC47V)

242 Follow-up on the Wayne MI church shooting, search X for the dead shooter's name, Brian Browning. Not what anyone expected.

Also, it seems that many are posting a pic of Browning which is not him but some other person who died a month ago.

Search thoroughly.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:22 AM (Kc33O)

243 I understand people feeling sympathetic for MTG since she’s of the right, but damn she is an idiot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 12:24 AM (EVFZ5)

244
Wasn't he killed? If so, good riddance.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:24 AM (3ek7K)

245
Search thoroughly.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:22 AM (Kc33O)

The guy in the military uniform or the guy who looks like he smokes a lot of weed?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:25 AM (bss/y)

246
Tom,

A lot of people on the right are idiots.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:26 AM (3ek7K)

247 WTAF?

They are rebooting The Toxic Avenger with Peter Dinklehimself in the lead role?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:26 AM (sZI8v)

248 246
Tom,

A lot of people on the right are idiots.
Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:26 AM (3ek7K)

Idiots will always be with us.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:26 AM (bss/y)

249
Good evening, all!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 12:26 AM (lCaJd)

250 Zara Tindall, a personal favorite (we’ve ridden together, so I’m a bit biased),

---

Piper has ridden with Zara Tindall
wow

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 23, 2025 12:27 AM (Splbu)

251 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:26 AM (sZI8v)

You seen Kirsche's new model?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:27 AM (bss/y)

252 Thanks all. We're all fine.

The 1000s of people who have lost there homes and the families who have lost someone or have wounded family members, including many with severe trauma, are in need of help.

America needs to be alert and stay safe, too. Muslims have been aroused to harm who they can.

Gotta start my day. l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:27 AM (Kc33O)

253 Munya!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:28 AM (sZI8v)

254
Hiya Blonde,

What is your opinion of what is going on lately?

I love reading you!

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:28 AM (3ek7K)

255 Wait, I thought Metokur was dead?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:29 AM (bss/y)

256 Gotta start my day. l8r.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:27 AM (Kc33O)

Have fun storming the mountain!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:29 AM (bss/y)

257 Metokur might as well be. His spine is dissolving and right now he is dealing with kidney stones. One I think is 7mm.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:30 AM (sZI8v)

258 We've all been deeply affected by Joo space lasers, but how many of us would really be bothered by Iranian nuclear weapons?!?

Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Green at June 23, 2025 12:31 AM (9FEtL)

259 257 Metokur might as well be. His spine is dissolving and right now he is dealing with kidney stones. One I think is 7mm.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:30 AM (sZI8v)

Ouch. Largest one I ever had was 4.5mm. That was not fun.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:32 AM (bss/y)

260 I understand people feeling sympathetic for MTG since she’s of the right, but damn she is an idiot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 12:24 AM (EVFZ5)


I don't. Dumb is dumb. That there post is AOC Dumb.

Posted by: RickZ at June 23, 2025 12:32 AM (gKDq2)

261 258 We've all been deeply affected by Joo space lasers, but how many of us would really be bothered by Iranian nuclear weapons?!?
Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Green at June 23, 2025 12:31 AM (9FEtL)

Do you suffer the heartbreak of Jewish anal psoriasis?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:32 AM (bss/y)

262
I am still that AOC flew down to escort the released asshole back.

What a piece of shit, both of them.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:33 AM (3ek7K)

263 Aetius

Wait until you get to the portion where Kirsche tells him what she has made from Gamer Sups.

Metokur also got fully briefed on Ana Vallens and the other freaks. I really think he needed the absurdity of the situation of the person throwing stones at Kirsche.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:35 AM (sZI8v)

264 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:35 AM (sZI8v)

I have to say, I like this better than the weird childlike one she had. That was just creepy. Her old school one has a certain charm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:36 AM (bss/y)

265 For the curious:

R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 3h
🚨#BREAKING: The official LA County Sheriff’s Department is under extreme backlash for a Condolence Post on the Victims and families of the U.S. Bombing of Iran's nuclear sites.
📌#LosAngeles | #California
The official LA County Sheriff’s Department on X is facing extreme backlash after sharing a post that appeared to express condolences for the victims and families affected by the recent U.S. bombing of Iranian nuclear sites. The post read: “Our hearts go out to the victims and families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran. While this tragic event occurred overseas, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is closely monitoring the situation alongside our local, state, and federal partners.” Following widespread criticism from users, the department edited the post and eventually deleted it, sparking even more outrage online.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 12:36 AM (2yoRf)

266
I've been looking at those before and after satellite images of Fordow. 6 holes on either side of the ridge line. I've seen some overlays of what they think is the internal layout of the complex. I wonder how they think they know that. Mossad hard at work? Or is some remote sensing possible?

I hope they did do substantial damage. A lot of concrete dust blew out of those holes. Some weather satellites also caught some little "energy blooms" and a plume right over Fordow as well, I saw.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 12:36 AM (w6EFb)

267 Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 12:36 AM (2yoRf)

The sheriffs were the ones actually doing something during the riots, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:37 AM (bss/y)

268 Judy Garland had nice legs.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 23, 2025 12:38 AM (lhenN)

269 Aetius she talks about all the seething haters she still gets for her April Fools avatar. Have you seen her showing off her new legs yet?

Metokur also got the Cliff Note version of Kirsche's female parent.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:38 AM (sZI8v)

270 China 'strongly' condemns US strike on Iran's nuclear program

Ok, I condemn human slavery and rape camps.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:39 AM (bss/y)

271 R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 1h
🚨#BREAKING: The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department has officially issued an apology following intense backlash over a social media post that offered condolences to the victims and families affected by the U.S. bombing of Iran's nuclear sites.

They say, "We are issuing this statement to formally apologize for an offensive and inappropriate post recently shared on our official social media platforms regarding the ongoing conflict in Iran. The post was made in error, was unacceptable, and does not reflect the views or values of our Department," the statement read.

Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_ 3h
The official, verified LA County Sheriff’s Dept posted, then edited, then deleted this eyebrow raising post appearing to express condolences for the “tragic” US bombing of Iranian nuclear sites. Have to imagine someone went rogue here w/ an unapproved post. What a PR disaster.

R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 3h Replying to @elander777
First of all, the post wasn’t fake. I, along with many others, commented on it. They edited it, and just 20 seconds later, they deleted it. Here’s a snapshot of the post right before they made the edit and took it down.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2025 12:40 AM (2yoRf)

272 Metokur also got the Cliff Note version of Kirsche's female parent.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:38 AM (sZI8v)

I am listening now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:41 AM (bss/y)

273 It is about three hours.

She will mention her new website -
https://kirsche.com/

It goes live with merchandise in just under 5 days.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:42 AM (sZI8v)

274 Fuck China. Is there any way we can take them out?

I had an aunt who worked in the State department many many decades ago who told us "never trust those slant eyed bastards."

No need to try and find out who she was, but she spoke the truth and knew what they were up to.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:43 AM (3ek7K)

275 Well, it's not so much a cliff's notes, more a highlight reel on her mom.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:43 AM (bss/y)

276 Shin-shot guy made me laugh harder than I have in a month. Wife asked what's so funny? I told her "not going to show you 'cause there's no way you'd laugh at this. Hell, I don't know why *I'm* laughing at it."

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 23, 2025 12:44 AM (iQXUL)

277 Screenshot of the deleted LASD xtweet.


Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
·
3h
The official, verified LA County Sheriff’s Dept posted, then edited, then deleted this eyebrow raising post appearing to express condolences for the “tragic” US bombing of Iranian nuclear sites. Have to imagine someone went rogue here w/ an unapproved post. What a PR disaster.

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 12:44 AM (uC47V)

278 I approve of the Deacon using his F-150 to run him over. Have to protect people.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:46 AM (sZI8v)

279 Creative block nyah

Three images from hitting 1,000 on Tensor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:47 AM (sZI8v)

280 Stupid 3AM wakeup call - just for one blithering ballistic missile?!?!?!

What's wrong with them!


Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 12:08 AM (Kc33O)

=====

Apparently Anderson Cooper is in Israel, and was on the air when the alert came through. Daily Mail has the video. He pulled a George Costanza and practically knocked everyone out of the way scuttling off to a shelter. What an awesome guy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 23, 2025 12:47 AM (oqwM8)

281 Was hard to watch the shin-shot vid. Damn. Especially the trailer hitch!

Brings back a particularly painful memory for me.

Posted by: JQ at June 23, 2025 12:47 AM (rdVOm)

282 I am surprised he was still active enough to need to be shot...

Maybe not investigate too much. Security officer did what he needed to.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:47 AM (bss/y)

283
Screenshot of the deleted LASD xtweet.


Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
·
3h
The official, verified LA County Sheriff’s Dept posted, then edited, then deleted this eyebrow raising post appearing to express condolences for the “tragic” US bombing of Iranian nuclear sites. Have to imagine someone went rogue here w/ an unapproved post. What a PR disaster.
Posted by: 13times

================

The X account is "LASDHQ." Should be LSD HQ.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 12:47 AM (lCaJd)

284 Three images from hitting 1,000 on Tensor.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:47 AM (sZI8v)

The 'Here there be Dragons' ones are good.

Although I am wondering what gun she is holding (green hair). Blonde looks to be a generic pistol with some sort of slotted device on the end of the barrel.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:50 AM (bss/y)

285
Have to imagine someone went rogue here w/ an unapproved post. What a PR disaster.

=================

Bill Melugin is no dummy and if he thinks someone went rogue I'm willing to believe it... but there may be something in the culture of the LSD HQ there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 12:50 AM (lCaJd)

286
People who support Iran should be deported there. Let them experience what living there entails.

The people in our country who support Iran are pussies. They are assholes who brag on the internet but are pussies who wouldn't last an hour there.


Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:50 AM (3ek7K)

287 Didn't like the Portlandia 2035AD image??

If I sussed out the proper LORA I would probably get correct firearms.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:52 AM (sZI8v)

288 I guess Anderson Cooper will have to redo his mascara and change out panties.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:54 AM (sZI8v)

289 287 Didn't like the Portlandia 2035AD image??

If I sussed out the proper LORA I would probably get correct firearms.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:52 AM (sZI8v)

The head seems off.

The boobs are good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:55 AM (bss/y)

290 The green haired chick reminds me of something...

Cannot put my finger on it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:56 AM (bss/y)

291

I'm hardcore and make no apologies for that.

You don't like here in America I am glad to use my taxes to deport you to whatever shithole country you support.

Lots of luck assholes.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:56 AM (3ek7K)

292 Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 12:56 AM (3ek7K)

Don't disagree. A lot of these people would be... enlightened. Like that couple who decided to bike ride across asia.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 12:58 AM (bss/y)

293 Did you like the Foxu News images of Kirsche?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:58 AM (sZI8v)

294 293 Did you like the Foxu News images of Kirsche?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 12:58 AM (sZI8v)

Good, but... cherries?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:00 AM (bss/y)

295 I've been looking at those before and after satellite images of Fordow. 6 holes on either side of the ridge line. I've seen some overlays of what they think is the internal layout of the complex. I wonder how they think they know that. Mossad hard at work? Or is some remote sensing possible?
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Joe Rogan just had a guy on a couple of weeks ago claiming US IC routinely does remote viewing.

Assuming you don't mean that, I wonder if something like (i.e. military version of) Lidar (which folks have been using to discover pyramids in South American jungle), or whatever the satellite based thing that claimed to find space under the Great Pyramid, might be available?

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2025 01:00 AM (Dnobf)

296 Also Halo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:00 AM (bss/y)

297 Evening Doof, and ONT Horde. Just got back from Spokane. Rolled into the driveway less than a half-hour ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 01:01 AM (a9R6a)

298 I think it was the 1890s, an American vanished in Turkey while trying to bicycle across the world. He was told he should divert and ride through Russia, but he ignored their advice.

It took a couple years to figure out the locals in eastern Turkey had murdered him.

Now we know within a few hours when someone is truly stupid.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:01 AM (sZI8v)

299
Hiya Blonde,

What is your opinion of what is going on lately?

I love reading you!
Posted by: four seasons

================

four seasons, how sweet of you!

I was with lefty family this weekend who think Trump is outside the lines and I was saying "Okay, but that's within his authority as president, oh and so is that, and that's also within his authority..."

It seems to me that all the cans that have been kicked down the road for the last 25 years and more are finally really at the end of the road and Trump is the guy who has to pick them up and finish them. Thank God for Trump!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 01:02 AM (lCaJd)

300 Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2025 01:00 AM (Dnobf)

If I was Israel... and I had complete air space control. And I had some sneaky squirrels.

Why wouldn't you have guys on the grounds to be able to evaluate strikes? Especially for something like the Fordow one. It might be hard to stay under cover though, I guess because the iranians are also going to be swarming the sites after a strike.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:02 AM (bss/y)

301 China 'strongly' condemns US strike on Iran's nuclear program
-
Someone realized their bunker isn't deep enough, and it's kind of hard to fix.

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2025 01:03 AM (Dnobf)

302 If I remember correctly, and I probably didn't, didn't equestrian events mimic knightly skills? Assuming I'm right, where are the swords, maces, battleaxes, shields, helms, and armor?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 10:08 PM (S/Y4j)

I can tell you where the battleaxes are...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 01:03 AM (a9R6a)

303 "Thanks, Daddy. This is more fun than a Barbie doll"?

More like: "Bring me back my Christmas presents, you damn dirty Grinch!"

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at June 23, 2025 01:04 AM (D0HYP)

304

What in the hell are those assholes thinking?

Do they think they are going to sit around and sing Kumala?






Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:04 AM (3ek7K)

305 Those Swiss vaults aren't deep enough either.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:05 AM (sZI8v)

306 Mea Culpa Aetius, forgot them in the prompt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:05 AM (sZI8v)

307 306 Mea Culpa Aetius, forgot them in the prompt.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:05 AM (sZI8v)

Hey, I am just a natural born critic. QC for a living.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:06 AM (bss/y)

308

Blonde,

I have moments of sweetness, lol. Seriously I love reading your thoughts on what is going on. I look forward to your comments.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:06 AM (3ek7K)

309 Apparently Anderson Cooper is in Israel, and was on the air when the alert came through. Daily Mail has the video. He pulled a George Costanza and practically knocked everyone out of the way scuttling off to a shelter. What an awesome guy.
Posted by: Jordan61
......................................
LoL! I'd love to see a video of this with Yakety Sax playing in the background!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 01:08 AM (sAmhv)

310
Anderson Cooper is a pussy.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:08 AM (3ek7K)

311
Seriously I love reading your thoughts on what is going on. I look forward to your comments.
Posted by: four seasons

===============

Then we have a mutual admiration society, and honestly, I only know what I read. I'm farrrrr from the smartest person on the blog!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 01:10 AM (lCaJd)

312
We have to stop letting pussies run our wonderful country.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:11 AM (3ek7K)

313 The Anderson Cooper video - I didn't see him doing a George Costanza, why do people exaggerate or outright lie?

Posted by: Ciampino - how at June 23, 2025 01:14 AM (sPQoU)

314 313
It wold help with a link

https://tinyurl.com/mr39jeka

Posted by: Ciampino - how at June 23, 2025 01:15 AM (sPQoU)

315 Heh, speaking of QC. Still got small bits to paint on F-14, then the death by a thousand stencil decals.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:15 AM (sZI8v)

316 *Blinks at Youtube*

Just letting it play and it has decided that nude MMD videos is a good idea.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:16 AM (sZI8v)

317
We have to stop letting pussies run our wonderful country.
Posted by: four seasons

==============

The gutlessness of our "leaders" is a wonder to behold. CEOs of billion-dollar companies who sign a check in terror rather than look twice before they donate $100 million to BLM or Pride. I used to think capitalists were all about the bottom line and didn't pour money down the drain, but the pussies who have been running our industries made me realize that fear of being called a name is actually a greater motivator than profit!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 01:17 AM (lCaJd)

318 The Anderson Cooper video - I didn't see him doing a George Costanza, why do people exaggerate or outright lie?
Posted by: Ciampino - how at June 23, 2025 01:14 AM (sPQoU)


Clicks.

Posted by: RickZ at June 23, 2025 01:18 AM (gKDq2)

319 The newer MMD videos are doing a better job of collision detection and jiggle physics.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:20 AM (sZI8v)

320 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-23
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 23, 2025
Launch Time: 1:25 a.m. EDT, 0525 UTC, 0725 CEST

https://www.youtube.com/live/fOFAMHKphHw

Posted by: Ciampino - how at June 23, 2025 01:21 AM (sPQoU)

321 My troll post to my local shitreddit community:
Let's see who takes the bait...


There will be no Trump appreciation gathering Tuesday

It has been decided that there will be no Appreciation Gathering for Trump this Tuesday, thanking him for taking military action against Iran's nuclear program.

Supporters have indicated that, even though they absolutely voted for, and support, this type of policy, they have determined that it is more important at this moment to attend to their employment responsibilities, which in turn is essential to providing for their spouses and children. Running around like useless eaters and useful idiots, waving insipid hand drawn signs, or preprinted signs from dark organizations, would be detrimental to family, community, and economy.

Thank you for your understanding in these trying times.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 23, 2025 01:21 AM (ufFY8)

322 316:

MMD?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 01:21 AM (sAmhv)

323 319 The newer MMD videos are doing a better job of collision detection and jiggle physics.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:20 AM (sZI8v)

I keep getting resident evil mod videos. Ashley from the fourth game seems to be the most popular now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 23, 2025 01:22 AM (bss/y)

324 MMD?
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 01:21 AM (sAmhv)

2500

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 01:24 AM (tr9uZ)

325 Mahmoud Khalil back protesting just days after being released by ICE

https://mol.im/a/14837147

Posted by: Ciampino - needs hot iron at June 23, 2025 01:25 AM (sPQoU)

326
Blonde,

So many of those people are afraid of being called out as racists and everything else. If they would stand up for what they really believed in we would be a better country.

They know they have the power to change us as a country but they are pussies.

Social media has had such a negative effect on people standing up for what they truly believe in.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:25 AM (3ek7K)

327 MMD is Miku Miku Dance

It is animation software oft times used to make music videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQI4XHDVwMk

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:27 AM (sZI8v)

328 The Al Gore Rhythms knows your tastes Aetius?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:30 AM (sZI8v)

329 "A Federal Magistrate judge just DENIED a motion to keep Kilmar Abrego Garcia in custody for human trafficking charges, pending trial."


Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 01:33 AM (uC47V)

330 Then DHS/ICE should drop Garcia off at the judge's house.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 01:34 AM (sZI8v)

331

I agree Anna. Those "elites" are so isolated from what we, the regular normal people live with every day.

Any of those criminals should be assigned to live with those judges.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:37 AM (3ek7K)

332 It took 3 days for Beatrice to find a decent hairstyle and fascinator. Her dresses are always misses. She goes from butter churner to Mad Madame Mim seamlessly. (Perhaps she's tiny and her designers of choice don't alter well for her frame. Or, she's got her mom's sense of style. 🤷

Prince Edward looks as if his formal suit has been pressed out and worn for 38 years.

Camilla looks like a chicken, always, having fun and King Charles about one step away from Harpo Marx.

I admire Princess Ann's practical dressing, as do the UK taxpayers, and to get into a 38 year old dress and look quite decent at age 74 is admirable. (Compared to her brothers, she's a national treasure.) She's known as the hardest working royal & was also an Olympian.

Zara is always stylish, well put together in her accesories but so are all the wives of current or former celebrity soccer players.

I enjoy Piper's current fashion knowledge & commentary. 👍

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 23, 2025 01:37 AM (NFX2v)

333
I don't give a shit what people wear.

The supposed "elites" have let the muslims take over what once was a great country.

I guess they looked stylish whilst letting ingrates take over their country.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:42 AM (3ek7K)

334
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 23, 2025 01:21 AM (ufFY

===============

*applause*

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 23, 2025 01:43 AM (lCaJd)

335
They all will be wearing Hefty garbage bags soon. It won't be so stylish then.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:48 AM (3ek7K)

336 Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:42 AM (3ek7K)

Lighten up Frances.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 23, 2025 01:50 AM (L5An7)

337 Garcia is totally not a flight risk.

Is it possible to impeach federal judges? I seems like congress is sitting on their hands and doing nothing but the usual hearings designed for popular appeal. I'm sure they're doing something positive and I just need to be patient.. for the next four years.

Optimistically fatal. That's me.

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 01:52 AM (uC47V)

338

Oh, God has spoken. No opinions allowed.

Good night all and God Bless.

Posted by: four seasons at June 23, 2025 01:53 AM (3ek7K)

339 On the bright side, they can get them with odor and/or rodent control.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 23, 2025 01:54 AM (NFX2v)

340 "A Federal Magistrate judge just DENIED a motion to keep Kilmar Abrego Garcia in custody for human trafficking charges, pending trial."
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The judge, Barbara Holmes was appointed by...wait for it...Biden.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 23, 2025 01:58 AM (XeU6L)

341 "No opinions allowed."

Murder and body bags. Keep the bloody minded comments to yourself? You went haywire the other night and the next day blamed it on whiskey.



Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 02:02 AM (uC47V)

342 >> Assuming you don't mean that, I wonder if something like (i.e. military version of) Lidar


No I didn't. We'll call remote viewing, very unconventional remote sensing. :-)

I've listened to enough Art Bell and Ed Dames, and then the tales of Ingo Swan.... that stuff goes from crazy, to really, really, bat-shit insane. Then there is Hal Putoff, who can make the bat-shit stuff sound like, well, crazy, but not just made up.

But I do not doubt the CIA actually tried it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 02:04 AM (w6EFb)

343 I hope they did do substantial damage. A lot of concrete dust blew out of those holes. Some weather satellites also caught some little "energy blooms" and a plume right over Fordow as well, I saw.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

We arranged for a certain electrician of your acquaintance to do all the wiring

Posted by: Mossad Miklos at June 23, 2025 02:05 AM (UYy+W)

344 But I do not doubt the CIA actually tried it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 02:04 AM (w6EFb)

Maybe they could train bloodhounds to do remote scenting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 02:06 AM (tr9uZ)

345 Did you like the Foxu News images of Kirsche?
Posted by: Anna Puma


The middle one, with the right font for the logo, is best.

Posted by: mikeski at June 23, 2025 02:08 AM (DgGvY)

346 Maybe they could train bloodhounds to do remote scenting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Certain types you can smell from a mile away

Posted by: Miklos, who liked it when Samantha's nose twitiched at June 23, 2025 02:09 AM (UYy+W)

347 https://tinyurl.com/mr39jeka

Posted by: Ciampino - how at June 23, 2025 01:15 AM (sPQoU)
-

Nothing exciting about Cooper's behavior. Don't see any pushing. A bit of panic is in order, especially if this was his first alert. It's a big shot of adrenalin even when you're used to it.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 02:09 AM (lrLmX)

348 Well, past midnight, and I was driving all day. Time for sleep. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 02:11 AM (tr9uZ)

349 Another good launch.

Posted by: Ciampino - speed at June 23, 2025 02:14 AM (sPQoU)

350 California is looking more and more like an enemy state:

https://tinyurl.com/237ahv2a

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 02:17 AM (lrLmX)

351 Ed Dames. Good grief. He didn't even remote sense 9/11. Damn fraud.

And Art Bell retired 25? years ago and the radio show is still coasting along on his coattails. Ian Punnit up and croaked a few years ago - he was a nasty, spiteful leftist.

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 02:18 AM (uC47V)

352 "A lot of concrete dust blew out of those holes. Some weather satellites.."

At the beginning of the lone video of one of the massive Fordow explosions that superheated concrete debris is glowing red in the fallout. And the video captures the dusty shock wave front rushing towards the videographer.

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 02:29 AM (uC47V)

353 Where is Kate in those pics???

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 23, 2025 02:34 AM (vm8sq)

354 Good night, Horde, sleep well.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 23, 2025 02:40 AM (0nHVk)

355 Well, just got back from Fairbanks. We went up to meet with the Bishop (a personal friend) who needs some architectural work done, so of course we said yes. It was, as usual in the summer, hotter than hell, dusty, and smoky from wildfires everywhere. We had to drive back the long way because the Bear Creek fire crossed the highway. Took about 9 1/2 hours driving, and saw more wildfires burning away. None of which get coverage like LA, but whaddaya want?

DH got to drive his 2014 Challenger, and I get to do some really cool Catholic architecture for a very sweet man who happens to be the Bishop. DH took him driving the Challenger, because he may be a Bishop, but he's still just a California beach boy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 02:40 AM (a4NoL)

356 Like I always say: Philistines upon you, America:

https://tinyurl.com/bdd7hez9

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 02:42 AM (lrLmX)

357 "A Federal Magistrate judge just DENIED a motion to keep Kilmar Abrego Garcia in custody for human trafficking charges, pending trial."

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 01:33 AM (uC47V)
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Something radical needs to be done.

With the judiciary. And fast.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 02:51 AM (lrLmX)

358 Art Bell had the best whacky guests of any show ever. One of my favorites was/is Richard C. Hoagland. He came up with bat shit nuts stuff about Mars and Sedona Toss in Art Bell with his always dry credulous style - absolutely glorious radio.

Some Richard C. Hoagland.

https://youtu.be/x_D-HjA0reA?t=4094

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 03:00 AM (NXz8h)

359 DataRepublican plays chess with Miss Lindsey:

https://tinyurl.com/4wznjp7w

Everyone on X should be following DR.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 03:00 AM (lrLmX)

360 Watching Al Jazeera. It has been a few hours and it seems everyone is getting their propaganda and spontaneous protests in Tehran, with video of the death to soup de jour chanting, sorted out. Seems the latest BS is the bombing hits were a complete failure because there is no evidence they actually disrupted Iran's 100% peaceful, and totally regulated and inspected civilian nuclear power generation program.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 03:09 AM (NXz8h)

361 At the beginning of the lone video of one of the massive Fordow explosions that superheated concrete debris is glowing red in the fallout. And the video captures the dusty shock wave front rushing towards the videographer.

Posted by: 13times

Sounds like you are describing Mt. St. Helens. That was a pretty good boom-boom.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 03:13 AM (NXz8h)

362 Sirens in northern Israel. Nothing in the center. Haifa is the standard target up north.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 03:14 AM (lrLmX)

363 Sirens in northern Israel. Nothing in the center. Haifa is the standard target up north.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

The sirens are also going off in Amman (an Al Jazzy talking head is doing a live feed from there).

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 03:16 AM (NXz8h)

364 Art Bell was a broadcasting genius. He had shills call the show to keep things lively. He never screened calls.

Father Malachi Martin - it's all uploaded to archive.org.

Hoagland claiming one of the moons orbiting Saturn or Jupiter was literally a dead Death Star.

Mad Man Markham - the kid that built a "Tesla" device that blacked out his town.

Mel's Hole.

Posted by: 13times at June 23, 2025 03:20 AM (uC47V)

365 Oops. Getting ready to shelter in Jerusalem now.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 03:21 AM (lrLmX)

366 surprise





















Posted by: The Merkin at June 23, 2025 03:24 AM (peHkl)

367 And the booms begin!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 03:30 AM (T3lEs)

368 West of the Rockies...you're on the air

Posted by: a dude in MI at June 23, 2025 03:33 AM (+I6Y/)

369 Minnesota shooting survivor reveals gunman lined her family up execution-style to 'slaughter' them

https://mol.im/a/14836669

Posted by: Ciampino - Waltz's hitman at June 23, 2025 03:36 AM (sPQoU)

370 One of my favorite Art Bell shows occurred on 3/13/1997 and covered the Phoenix UFO Lights event with live reports. I heard it in real time. I was like, dang, we are being invaded because I wanted to be sucked in. Then I pinched myself and went this is complete nonsense; still wish I hadn't done that. After that came some bat shit Egypt stuff. Classic show.

https://is.gd/qMMvr8

A follow up broadcast to this occurred on 3/11/2006. Art Bell was the best.

https://youtu.be/uGCbu-MrXsM

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 03:37 AM (NXz8h)

371 And the booms begin!
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Stay safe. Be safe. Bastards.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 03:39 AM (NXz8h)

372 Suicide Homicide bomber 'kills 22 and injures 63' in attack on church full of worshipers in Syria

https://mol.im/a/14836513

But if this was a mosque on a Friday PM it would be cover to cover for at least a week.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's homicide mister at June 23, 2025 03:42 AM (sPQoU)

373 Finally home

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 03:43 AM (+qU29)

374 Safe bastard here!

Waiting for all-clear. Endless schmoozing. Refer the the nursery school boy video clip. I'm with him!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 03:43 AM (T3lEs)

375 Biden's Dog are you in a shelter?

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 03:47 AM (+qU29)

376 In a couple of hours.

ULA - Atlas V 551 - Project Kuiper 2
SLC-41 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 23, 2025
Launch Time: 6:54 a.m. EDT, 1054 UTC, 12:54

https://www.youtube.com/live/6DpfQPwRjTo

Posted by: Ciampino - It's not SpaceX at June 23, 2025 03:49 AM (sPQoU)

377 Still sheltered. Coming in wave all around the country.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 03:53 AM (DGFJg)

378
Deadly cat disease, Bobcat Fever, showing up in southern Indiana -- tick-borne

https://tinyurl.com/bdh3rncu

Posted by: Ciampino - It's not fleas at June 23, 2025 03:58 AM (sPQoU)

379 I can't dislike Al Jazeera enough. Just now: "Since Israel started this crisis." I watch it because Al Jazeera gets into places Western media often misses. Plus it irritates me.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 04:00 AM (NXz8h)

380 Took a Melatonin when vinto.my truck over a hour ago.
Have a great morning everyone
Biden's Dog good luck your way

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 04:04 AM (+qU29)

381 Biden's dog you are always in my thoughts. Keep safe.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's up to Him at June 23, 2025 04:16 AM (sPQoU)

382 Mornin' Horde.

@374/Biden's dog: "Safe bastard here!"

Glad to hear it.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:22 AM (O7YUW)

383 Thanks all.

Were in shelter about 40 minutes. Took Iran that long to fire 12-15 ballistic missiles. One hit some electric lines down south, so folks in the vicinity will have intermittent outages while lines are repair. No injuries reported.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 23, 2025 04:25 AM (NC42u)

384 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 23, 2025 04:32 AM (CQE5S)

385 .
NOOD

Pixy's up.

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 04:32 AM (O7YUW)

Gun Thread: Post-NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Balls O' Poo! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the 2025 Post NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition??? Please consider this an open thread to discuss your NoVAMoMe experience, or really any other MoMe for that matter. Who knows, you may help a scairdy-cat lurker throw caution to the wind and commit to attending one!

NoVAMoMe Update
A bigly big thank you to all those who attended the 2025 NoVAMoMe! It is always so much fun to see our online pals and make some new freshly de-lurking friends as well! The weather was perfect and as far as I could tell everyone had a great time visiting one another. My bestest blog buddy, organizer and generally nice person extraordinaire bluebell and I thank everyone for attending. Hopefully those who were there will inspire others to join the fun at a MoMe near them!

Have I said it's fun?

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Do our Air Force pilots and Naval Aviators focus on fundamentals? Evidently they do!

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Above, an Air Force Northrop B-2 Spirit Ass-Kicker

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The GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)

Q: Weasel, what do we get when we put the two together?
A: Instant hole!

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A hearty thank you and job well done to the men and women of the United States Armed Forces!

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Smith & Wesson Revolver Madness!

In the market for a used Smith & Wesson?

Now that you have it, let's take it apart and see what's inside while it's in pieces!

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Hickok45

Q: Weasel, what does Hickok45 do with every new gun?
A: I'm glad you asked.

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The Hell is That?

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Our Pal The Mergenthaler Linotype Linotron 505!

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Highway Patrol
1955 Season 1 Episode 1!!

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Night of the Blood Beast!

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Musical Interlude
Here is Leo with Dance Monkey

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 07:03 PM (e5NfL)

2 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:05 PM (gf6+f)

3 Weasel, I was hoping for a cjgar review about your latest cigar.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:06 PM (ZIggv)

4 Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:06 PM (ZIggv)
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Not this week!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 07:07 PM (1HXVD)

5 I was very impressed that many of you Morons can ring steel at a 1,000 yards.

Trump must be a MAGA Moron ... since he can ring steel at 6,000 miles!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)

6 I made top ten??? Where is everybody?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 22, 2025 07:09 PM (pSHcJ)

7 I see the Bunker Buster made a big hole and just missed the visitors center! That was close!
Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!

Posted by: DBCooper at June 22, 2025 07:09 PM (iZBfk)

8 The best time to bomb the mullahs was 45 years ago. The second best time is now.

Posted by: Dolly the Llama at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (Cg/f3)

9 Sorry, but Dance Monkey is a terrible song. It somehow got internationally popular because the original singer sang it like she was drunk and constipated. A pure novelty song. Like of a rock band decided to write a song where the lyrics were all in farts.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (WbzKK)

10 Oh, I feel like such a rookie!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (pkbiv)

11 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (yMdDU)

12 Darn. Not first.
Range report. Grandson #1 is graduating soft air next Saturday and moving to the crossman model 1322. He has shown very good progress in handling and my yard set up range/ safety classes. So off to the sticks we go to shoot some soda cans. Probably going to take the walther .22 with us and let him try that too.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (LgDgc)

13 Weasel, does it have a really neat band on it ?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (ZIggv)

14 I was very impressed that many of you Morons can ring steel at a 1,000 yards.

Trump must be a MAGA Moron ... since he can ring steel at 6,000 miles!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Ha! That's funny....how are you brother? You and Gigi are coming to TX in Oct, right?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

15 We didn't attend the MoMe again this year. We had too much going on to make the drive. Hope everyone had a good time. I will say I am surprised about how the government is releasing so many details on the strike. Keeping your mouth shut would be the better choice. There is no reason to provide intel to the Iranians.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 22, 2025 07:13 PM (YcfMX)

16 Anything burning tonight Weasel?

Rocky Patel Sun Grown here.

Wonder if the B-2 crews or General Kurilla are burning one to mark the occasion.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 07:14 PM (1m82a)

17 Howdy Grateful!

We are planning on coming to Texas to see y'all good folks, but have one possible monkey wrench.

I am also working on the job search front, which is a strange environment compared to how it worked 40 years ago!

Good thing I am only 29!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM (HlyYF)

18 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM (WbzKK)

19 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 07:17 PM (BCwQW)

20 Elric, that’s a rather, um, memorable review.

And dain-bramaged memory serves, I think Weasel favorably reviewed that very stick here many moons ago.

Heh.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 07:18 PM (0/ySy)

21 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM (RoO7G)

22 I will say I am surprised about how the government is releasing so many details on the strike. Keeping your mouth shut would be the better choice. There is no reason to provide intel to the Iranians.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 22, 2025 07:13 PM


Agreed.

OTOH, I wouldn't trust much of the operational details if I were a rival power.

Supposedly the payload of the B2 is 40,000 lbs, but we dropped 12 30,000 lb MOPs with 6 planes.

I know there is not supposed to be any math on this smart military blog, but even I can do that math!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM (HlyYF)

23 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

Had one a few years back and been meaning to get more.

Are you saying it's gone down a bit?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM (/lPRQ)

24 17 I am also working on the job search front, which is a strange environment compared to how it worked 40 years ago!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM
***
If a recommendation letter from a dinosaur would help the cause, let me know.

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

25 I went to the range this week.

TWICE.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM (RoO7G)

26 Pillage Idiot, I just sent you a text.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:22 PM (ZIggv)

27 Elric, that’s a rather, um, memorable review.

And dain-bramaged memory serves, I think Weasel favorably reviewed that very stick here many moons ago.

Heh.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 07:18 PM (0/ySy)
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Really? I thought it was terrible. I could barely get it to light and stay lit. And I tried 3 different sticks from the same sampler. I threw the rest out. I guess it’s possible I got a very bad batch.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:22 PM (WbzKK)

28 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!

Good to see morons this weekend. You'll all crazy (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2025 07:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

29 Top 30?
Had a mandatory Range safety refresher on Saturday, due to some really interesting stuff that’s shown up on the security system there during the past year. Very worthwhile hour.

Hope everyone had a great weekend and thanks Weasel for your efforts on our behalf.

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (vt7xw)

30 Off topic but I think Chuckles Schumer looks like Montgomery Burns from The Simpsons.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (kTd/k)

31 Finally back to the range this week after more than two months, due to life....Was surprised how quickly I was able to fall into the rhythm...thanks to a wise & generous woman, I have been working with a hand grip, which made a huge difference in avoiding those shots that hit to the lower right (I am a lefty)...any other shots that didn't go where they were supposed to were quickly identified and addressed using those fundamentals rules, with good results. I really need to find a range in Pittsburgh....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 non-Hillary-Hole S&Ws >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary-Hole S&Ws.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (0sNs1)

33 If a recommendation letter from a dinosaur would help the cause, let me know.

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM


Thanks!

Since they are contemplating hiring a dinosaur, I would assume a recommendation from an actual dinosaur would carry additional weight.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

34 Elric, that’s a rather, um, memorable review.

And dain-bramaged memory serves, I think Weasel favorably reviewed that very stick here many moons ago.

Heh.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Yes, I believe puros and blends have good years and bad.
At least with blends they can try for consistency.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 07:26 PM (/lPRQ)

35 Pillage Idiot, answer your phone.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:27 PM (ZIggv)

36 On Juneteenth I celebrated the end of chattel slavery in the US (thanks to the Republicans!) by shooting with TRex and Grateful. It was a mostly Sig show. P365 XL, Macro, and 2 P226's.

And an Extar EP9 which is not a Sig.

Shot lots that day. I was trying to get rid of the green coated reman ammo and I got pretty close to taking that totally out of inventory.

And also learned the following - some people are incompatible with dots. It's a vision thing.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:28 PM (RoO7G)

37 I went to the range this week.

TWICE.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM


With no mention of any focus on fundamentals, this may be subtractive in your Mid-Year Commentator Review, which Ace and the CoBs are currently working feverishly on.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:28 PM (0sNs1)

38 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 22, 2025 07:28 PM (sAmhv)

39 And also got to enjoy another NoVAMoMe...It is hard to describe to those who have not attended one, but I'll try. You get to meet people you know and catch up on everything since the last time you saw them...you get to meet and talk to people who post but whom you've never met...and you get to meet people who read but don't comment - and encourage them to jump in the comments.
As usual, it was a delightful afternoon of conversations, jokes, food, beverages, cigars (for those that do), planning for TX, celebrating major life events, and getting an opportunity to be a part of Club ONT that night. Aside from all of that, it is deeply rewarding to break bread with this family, and I am very "grateful" to be able to do it in NoVa, TX, and where ever we travel and can meet up with local Horde members. Thank you Ben Had for starting this tradition.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:31 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 You guys actually get together in person and not wear disguises?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:32 PM (WbzKK)

41 Supposedly the payload of the B2 is 40,000 lbs, but we dropped 12 30,000 lb MOPs with 6 planes.

I know there is not supposed to be any math on this smart military blog, but even I can do that math!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM


It is known that a B2 can carry 2 GBU-57 A/Bs.

It should be noted that -57 is the model designation for S&Ws chambered in the best handgun caliber ever, the .41 Magnum.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:33 PM (0sNs1)

42 Creature from Galaxy 27 returns!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 07:34 PM (63Dwl)

43

*tears Moron In Good Standing membership card*

I had the opportunity to acquire new "shoes" as Smash calls them, for my armory.

i spent it on a 40w laser to make intricate rocket parts, puzzles, and clock innerds.

i'll do better. Pinky swearsies.

Posted by: Hector Salamonca at June 22, 2025 07:34 PM (7UGcC)

44 So, it sounds like the The Mergenthaler Linotype Linotron 505 might be considered a primitive electro-optical, electro-mechanical physical markup language.

I wonder if Donald Knuth had ever seen one before he invented TeX? As I recall, frustration with the typesetting of one of his books was what inspired him to go down the rabbit hole of inventing TeX and it's descendants.

(Sorry for going off-topic, but it's Weasel's fault for linking that video).

Posted by: a.moron at June 22, 2025 07:35 PM (Yt3ED)

45 Supposedly the payload of the B2 is 40,000 lbs, but we dropped 12 30,000 lb MOPs with 6 planes.

I know there is not supposed to be any math on this smart military blog, but even I can do that math!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM


There were seven B-2's that went into iran from the reports I have seen.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 07:35 PM (e5NfL)

46 31: not sure about Pittsburgh but gun ranges in PA is fairly common. Might need to check outside Allegheny County. It's pretty 'blue'.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 22, 2025 07:36 PM (sAmhv)

47 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM


Lacks specific and important details, e.g. what breed of dog?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:36 PM (0sNs1)

48 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM

Lacks specific and important details, e.g. what breed of dog?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:36 PM (0sNs1)
——

Whoopie Goldberg

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:38 PM (WbzKK)

49 not sure about Pittsburgh but gun ranges in PA is fairly common. Might need to check outside Allegheny County. It's pretty 'blue'.
Posted by: Puddleglum
***********
Where do yinz go in Washington Co?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

50 Posted by: Hector Salamonca

how freaking olde is that sock?

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 22, 2025 07:39 PM (7UGcC)

51 Evening all.
Well, I missed the Sunday post MoMe range date because I was feeling a bit punky but in my defense, I believe it is the first time that has happened.
The MoMe was terrific. A bit smaller but that made for more conversation. Think I recruited a few locals to come and check out where we shoot and to join us sometime. (If I didn't get your contact info, email me).
Thank you Weasel and Bluebell for making this happen. ❤️

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 22, 2025 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)

52 Thanks for the gun thread, Weasel.
Jaws on TV. A few Garand sightings.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 07:40 PM (41CYW)

53 Today the post MoMe shooting involved a smaller detachment. TRex and myself and Ed L. led an intrepid band of morons and moronabees (okay, it was RMBS, his mom, and the spouse of a lurker) and there was BLOOD.

A little slide bite. I carry a first aid kit to range day so it was survivable.

Also, I took my PSA Dagger which I have not shot in a while. I had that (with a cheapie green dot) and my Legion P226 with its Sig Romeo 1 Pro red dot.

I shoot the Dagger WAY better than the P226 which is annoying as the Sig is more than 4x the cost of the Dagger.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (RoO7G)

54 Well, I had to miss the NoVaMoMe this year, and was really bummed about that - especially the DMVMGC time.

But I *did* get to the range on Saturday. The activity on Saturday (that kept me from NoVaMoMe) got cancelled (for sad reasons), and I said "Screw it" to all the things I could have used that time for and went to the big First Day of Summer event at the range/gun store. They had Kimber, Glock, S&W, and Staccato reps there, along with a silencer guy, a local holster company, and some guy with bags. And free range time (didn't matter for me, as my range time is free anyway). But lots of people there with newbies, guy next to me with a full-auto, belt-fed 5.56 (maybe he checked it out of the Navy gun locker and brought it down to train the other guy). (It might have been 7.62, too.)

I was working on some bits using fundamentals. I did a little just-above-the-belt point-shooting. And then bringing it up to my eye level to see how close I was to natural aimpoint. A lot of 1-hand shooting.

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (PkFyV)

55 Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:43 PM (xcxpd)

56 49: Sorry, I don't know. Grew up in Lawrence county. Live in NoVA now. Still got family and friends up there. Visit at least once a year. Pretty sure there's a few of them in Washington County.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 22, 2025 07:46 PM (sAmhv)

57 Range report, once again starring the Glock 26 (G30 is benched again until I can get a new recoil spring).
The G26 continues to impress me. I thought the grip was too short but the 12 round magazines (The Magpul one is slightly better for me) give me a full grip on the pistol. I just have to watch reloading or I'll get some skin pinch.

I'm shooting 147 gr rounds almost exclusively now and out of the 3" barrel of the G26, the recoil is surprisingly mild. Maybe it's the double spring design, not sure, but it works.

Accuracy is more than fine, draw + fire drills are good at both 7 and 10 yards. And my Don Hume IWB holster is here and I'm breaking it in. The G26 is officially my Summer carry, along with my PSA Micro Dagger.

Good stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:46 PM (xcxpd)

58 Also, I took my PSA Dagger which I have not shot in a while. I had that (with a cheapie green dot) and my Legion P226 with its Sig Romeo 1 Pro red dot.

I shoot the Dagger WAY better than the P226 which is annoying as the Sig is more than 4x the cost of the Dagger.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (RoO7G)

The Ergonomics of the PSA Dagger are surprisingly good. And at the price, I can't think of a better 'starter' gun. Buy two.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:47 PM (xcxpd)

59 Grateful, the MoMe was in existence long before our Texas adventure. CBD hosted several before us Southerners ever caught up.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:48 PM (ZIggv)

60 What did I learn?

Aside from needing more range time, that is? I need to clean and function check my carry weapon. I need to get a SOLID grip on the gun early if I'm going to expect to not have any problems point-shooting early out of the holster.

I need to figure out the proper seating of my hands on the 9mm for a proper pointing grip. I still like shooting the .45 more than the 9mm, and I'm better at it.

And, when I finished off with the .22, I was really anticipating the shot. I have to work on that.

I also learned I need to win a lottery game so I can buy a couple of Kimbers and the S&W .357 revolver. (I still want the Python 2020, but that S&W was really nice trigger pull.)

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2025 07:48 PM (PkFyV)

61 For RMBS and RMBS Mom: I assume you were here for the NoVa MoMe, since I saw you today at church. I was sitting in back and saw you a few pews up. Wanted to catch you and say hi at coffee hour, but our mutual EF said you had to rush off. I’m sorry to have missed you!

Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM (lw6gg)

62 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (RoO7G)

RMBS and lurker spouse tried the H&K CC9 with one or two magazines each. Definitely not a newbie's gun.

RMBS, lurker spouse, and RMBS mom shot the .32 ACP Walther PPK/S SD w/ a suppressor. With a little more practice, RMBS mom might qualify for her 00 number. RMBS thinks this should make the trip to TX.

Almost everyone fired five rounds from the H&K MR556A4 SBR (11" barrel). BIG muzzle flash and loud muzzle blast with every round.

RMBS and lurker spouse tried out the MP5 at 15 yards. An OK showing for the first time w/ an SMG.

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM (BCwQW)

63 I've seen a number of comments on the unexpected success of the OPSEC regarding last night's raid. I think I've discovered the secret.

ILRedAlert@ILRedAlert
CNN reports that top Democrats on intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes, while Republicans were.

-
Geez! They're treasonous scum for a few decades and, right away, Trump doesn't want to share military secrets with them!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM (L/fGl)

64 That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM (WbzKK)

So you're saying it's bad?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

65 Looking to buy a
Athlon Optics Rangecraft Velocity Pro Radar Chronograph
because some Moron mentioned it here a couple weeks back.

Most places out of stock now, but the rest all even at $400.
The Garmin original is still going for $600.

Been trying to get vet discount but the the one place I know is glitching out so I think I'll just bite the bullet and forgo the 5-10% discount.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)

66 And at the price, I can't think of a better 'starter' gun. Buy two.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:47 PM (xcxpd)


Who do you think you are talking to?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:53 PM (RoO7G)

67 You guys actually get together in person and not wear disguises?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:32 PM (WbzKK)

Where did it say there were no disguises?

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2025 07:54 PM (PkFyV)

68 Today the post MoMe shooting involved a smaller detachment. TRex and myself and Ed L. led an intrepid band of morons and moronabees (okay, it was RMBS, his mom, and the spouse of a lurker) and there was BLOOD.

A little slide bite. I carry a first aid kit to range day so it was survivable.

Also, I took my PSA Dagger which I have not shot in a while. I had that (with a cheapie green dot) and my Legion P226 with its Sig Romeo 1 Pro red dot.

I shoot the Dagger WAY better than the P226 which is annoying as the Sig is more than 4x the cost of the Dagger.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM

And a special thanks to Ed L. for letting us all play with some of his more interesting toys!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 07:54 PM (yMdDU)

69 Elric, we do and it'sthe best time ever. We shoot, drink, eat amazing food, laugh, dance and enjoy life.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:57 PM (ZIggv)

70 Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM

LadyS! I didn't see you in back. Unfortunately we did have to run. It would have been great to catch up. The obvious solution is to come to TxMoMe X this year!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 07:59 PM (yMdDU)

71 Just had a new job listing pop up on my Indeed.

Wanted: Geological engineer. Ability to move mountains. Very high compensation package due to recent lack of availability of local experts.

Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:02 PM (HlyYF)

72 One interesting gun at range duty day last week.

LWRC 45ACP carbine. Not feather-light, but as a result recoil is minimal. Guy had the red dot zeroed very well, so pick it up, couple of quick shots at a steel plate about 35 yards away - ping, ping, ping. These PCCs are just the easiest platforms evah.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 08:04 PM (0/ySy)

73 Sunday night pet thread!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 08:05 PM (zbt+s)

74 blaster and RMBS,

Of course there was blood!

I thought the PSA Dagger had to be blooded every time before it was returned to the range bag or it would cease to function. It's right there in the name!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:05 PM (HlyYF)

75 Hash check

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (+mPER)

76 In case some of you are not tuned in to current events, buy guns. And ammo. And load some magazines.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

77 I thought the PSA Dagger had to be blooded every time before it was returned to the range bag or it would cease to function. It's right there in the name!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:05 PM (HlyYF)


The Dagger did do the bite, so you are correct sir!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:08 PM (RoO7G)

78 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?

Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (cl9qq)

79 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

+1

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (BCwQW)

80 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Brother, that would be one long commute to the TXMoMe....and not a legitimate excuse not to attend said MoMe....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (IQ6Gq)

81 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

And seriously, start reloading. It's fun, and my ammo stockpile just keeps getting larger.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 22, 2025 08:10 PM (pSHcJ)

82 59 Grateful, the MoMe was in existence long before our Texas adventure. CBD hosted several before us Southerners ever caught up.
Posted by: Ben Had
********
Sorry Ben Had, the signal is not coming in clearly.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

83 78 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?
Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (cl9qq)

An AR 15, because I bought several before the law changed.

Some states, the Mini-14 is a good alternatives (if you get a recent mfg).

For home defense, a shotgun may be better than a rifle. For other rifle roles, it depends on what you want to use the rifle for.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

84 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?

In California, a super soaker filled with warm cream corn.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 08:12 PM (88DkJ)

85 70: I’d love to attend the TX MoMe but probably never will. Just wanted to de-lurk for a minute to say hi. Yeah, I’m a back-of-church person and I didn’t receive Communion today so no surprise that you didn’t see me. Long homily, eh? Good but long.
Take care! May St. Olga pray for us all!

Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 08:13 PM (lw6gg)

86 18 ... "I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know."

Elric,
Please don't hold back out of politeness Tell us what you really think.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 08:14 PM (yTvNw)

87 Ready to shelter. Sirens in Tel Aviv and center.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 08:14 PM (NC42u)

88 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?
Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (cl9qq)

You might want to look at some of the new "tactical" lever guns from Marlin or S&W or Henry. Ammo capacity isn't as large as an AR, but otherwise pretty handy.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 22, 2025 08:14 PM (pSHcJ)

89 I'm gonna make a gun and call it "The Bastard Sword".
That's a cool name right?
Dagger? WTF? Can you stab somebody with it? Because I'm pretty sure a "dagger" has impied the ability to stab since at least 1350 or so.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (LgDgc)

90 I picked up a chubby girl this week.

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjCiLmy

In the 1960s, the Swiss equipped their all soldiers with the equivalent of a Bren gun that also shoots anti-tank rifle grenades.

Long and heavy but fine as a Swiss timepiece.

Posted by: toby928 at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (jc0TO)

91 80 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
********
Brother, that would be one long commute to the TXMoMe....and not a legitimate excuse not to attend said MoMe....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM


Help a murderous regime recover their nuclear equipment, or attend the TXMoMe?

Easiest decision ever!!!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (HlyYF)

92 89 I'm gonna make a gun and call it "The Bastard Sword".
That's a cool name right?
Dagger? WTF? Can you stab somebody with it? Because I'm pretty sure a "dagger" has impied the ability to stab since at least 1350 or so.
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (LgDgc)

Dunno, ask PSA's marketing dept.
It's a solid pistol though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 08:17 PM (xcxpd)

93 Buddy brought his friend to our weekly skeet shoot. Friend had never shot skeet. Buddy told him to bring shells with #9 shot if he could find them, #8 shot if he couldn't. Friend shows up with his family 12 gauge shotgun, and ammo, and we start shooting. There are 25 shots in a round of skeet.

After 10 shots, friend says he is out of #9 ammo. He has not hit a single target. We pause while he gets some more ammo, this time with #8 shot, from the car. He suddenly begins breaking clay pigeons. He continues hitting the targets, doing quite well for a beginner.

When we are done shooting he shows us the empty ammo box from his first 10 shots. In large letters on the box was "9 Pellet." He had started out shooting 00 buckshot loads, which only have nine pellets per round, as opposed to the 400 or so in a load of #8s.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:21 PM (J+OHH)

94 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

"Skies will be mostly clear this evening, with a chance for a light shower of JDAMS mixed with Tomahawks. Lows around 28C. Tomorrow will have increasing clouds with a chance of JDAM showers late, highs in the mid-30s C."

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:22 PM (BCwQW)

95 The mountains fall out of the sky and they lay there.

Posted by: Traffic circle at June 22, 2025 08:24 PM (63Dwl)

96 When we are done shooting he shows us the empty ammo box from his first 10 shots. In large letters on the box was "9 Pellet." He had started out shooting 00 buckshot loads, which only have nine pellets per round, as opposed to the 400 or so in a load of #8s.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:21 PM


Wow!

I never even feel the recoil when I am shooting light loads at quail.

I do feel my heavy turkey loads a bit, but you are trying to be stealthy, so I don't know if that alters my perception.

I would think(?) I would feel it for sure shooting 00 buckshot, which usually have a pretty good powder charge!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)

97 Seriously late.
Did I miss anything?

Posted by: RI Red at June 22, 2025 08:28 PM (4dsHO)

98 You DO NOT want to be a paper target 10 yards in front of Screaming in Digital when she has a 12 ga. loaded with buckshot.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 08:31 PM (yuVjX)

99 You guys actually get together in person and not wear disguises?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:32 PM


Well, the lighting is kept deliberately low in the Horse Trailer for a reason.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 08:34 PM (yuVjX)

100 I’d love to attend the TX MoMe but probably never will. Just wanted to de-lurk for a minute to say hi. Yeah, I’m a back-of-church person and I didn’t receive Communion today so no surprise that you didn’t see me. Long homily, eh? Good but long.
Take care! May St. Olga pray for us all!
Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 08:13 PM

Hopefully we'll see you at the next NoVaMoMe!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 08:35 PM (yMdDU)

101 Seriously late.
Did I miss anything?
Posted by: RI Red at June 22, 2025 08:28 PM (4dsHO)
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The NoVaMoMe.

Thanks to all who came, It was wonderful to see you all and to meet a few newcomers! To those who couldn't make it, we missed you and hope to see you next year.

No truth at all to the rumor that we had anything to do with the bombings last night. None.

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (79pEw)

102 Tomorrow will have increasing clouds with a chance of JDAM showers late, highs in the mid-30s C."*

*Localized temperatures may be significantly higher.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (yMdDU)

103 I would think(?) I would feel it for sure shooting 00 buckshot, which usually have a pretty good powder charge!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)

I could tell he was shooting full power loads, but that is not unusual to see at the range. The budget 12 gauge shot shells tend to give you your money's worth, with a whole ounce and an eighth of shot and enough gunpowder to operate the crankiest of semi autos.

Me, I load my own gauge target loads, with only 3/4 oz. of shot, which is plenty for just breaking a target. In a heavy shotgun, they almost feel like you are shooting a .22

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:39 PM (J+OHH)

104 CAO cigar review: The Columbia Toro is very nice, featuring toasted vanilla and honey on the palate. Quite rich and slow burning.

The Gold Robusto is...meh. Some cedar and black pepper notes. Little reports that both fade about halfway in. He left about a third of it for me to finish, and I ended up making a Manhattan just to have something interesting to swirl around the tongue between hits...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (bA75n)

105 I hear the dinner bell.

Thanks for another Gub Thread, Weasel.

I hope all of you Morons and 'ettes have a good week!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (HlyYF)

106 No truth at all to the rumor that we had anything to do with the bombings last night. None.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (79pEw)
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Yeah! None!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (a4dG3)

107 The rose parade next year will be lit when the stealth bomber makes it's flyover. Betcha the crowds will cheer more than usual.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 08:43 PM (bGYm4)

108 No truth at all to the rumor that we had anything to do with the bombings last night. None.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (79pEw)
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Yeah! None!
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (a4dG3)

There's no connection between the MoMe and the closest Papa Johns' to Fort Fumble seeing a surge in orders at double or triple normal Saturday afternoon levels either.

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:45 PM (BCwQW)

109 Weasel and bluebell,
So pleased the MoMe went off so well. Wish we could have attended. Not to mention that it served as a perfect screen. While Iran was trying to ferret out the MoMe details, the bombers went undetected. VaMoMe, not just for fun and good company anymore.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 08:48 PM (yTvNw)

110 Bluebell, good evening. I spent some quality time with Mrs. Red at her summer job location.
I made a strategic decision - attend MoMe 400 miles away with frenz, or attend to Mrs. Red 200 miles away.
I now have a positive balance in the marital capital account.

Posted by: RI Red at June 22, 2025 08:48 PM (4dsHO)

111 Bluebell, good evening. I spent some quality time with Mrs. Red at her summer job location.
I made a strategic decision - attend MoMe 400 miles away with frenz, or attend to Mrs. Red 200 miles away.
I now have a positive balance in the marital capital account.
Posted by: RI Red
*************
I am sure all will be noted in your ever growing permanent record...

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

112 Bluebell, thank you for putting together another great MoMe for everyone!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

113 Have silencer sales dropped to zero while everyone waits to see if they will get deregulated by the Big Beautiful Bill?

I know my favorite gun shop on Gunbroker has been advertising their silencer inventory heavily over the last few weeks, which they didn't before.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:54 PM (J+OHH)

114 Have silencer sales dropped to zero while everyone waits to see if they will get deregulated by the Big Beautiful Bill?

I know my favorite gun shop on Gunbroker has been advertising their silencer inventory heavily over the last few weeks, which they didn't before.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:54 PM (J+OHH)

Vendors at last week's Chantilly show cut prices on their inventory of silencers (and firearms) during the show. I think it was in part to try to move what they have on hand.

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 09:00 PM (BCwQW)

115 Punching out early, as I have a long drive tomorrow.

Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel, and thanks again to you and bluebell for arranging another great NoVaMoMe!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 09:01 PM (yMdDU)

116 94 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

"Skies will be mostly clear this evening, with a chance for a light shower of JDAMS mixed with Tomahawks. Lows around 28C. Tomorrow will have increasing clouds with a chance of JDAM showers late, highs in the mid-30s C."

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:22 PM (BCwQW)

Also, uranium oxide particles and dust will continue to fall for the next several days.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 09:01 PM (aBgBM)

117 For home defense, a shotgun may be better than a rifle. For other rifle roles, it depends on what you want to use the rifle for.

I have discovered that the Tavor X95 with 30rd magazine fits perfectly in the below deck storage in the Genesis GV80. Held securely in place as if the Koreans designed it to be hidden there.

Sometimes the firearm sort of selects itself.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 09:03 PM (a4flb)

118 Hello gun nuts. So glad the MoMe was a rousing success, but sad I wasn't there. Maybe next year, if the work stuff doesn't interfere again.

Can't wait for October!

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 22, 2025 09:04 PM (DnMuk)

119 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 09:01 PM (yMdDU)
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Adios, amigo. Safe trip home, and my best to Amon. It was great to get the chance to hang out on Saturday!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:05 PM (fLeXO)

120 Punching out early, as I have a long drive tomorrow.

Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel, and thanks again to you and bluebell for arranging another great NoVaMoMe!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
************
Safe and minimal traffic travels home....glad to see you both, looking forward to Oct.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 09:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

121 Amon = mom.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:06 PM (fLeXO)

122 Have a safe trip, RMBS!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 09:06 PM (BCwQW)

123 89 I'm gonna make a gun and call it "The Bastard Sword".
That's a cool name right?
Dagger? WTF? Can you stab somebody with it? Because I'm pretty sure a "dagger" has impied the ability to stab since at least 1350 or so.
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (LgDgc)


In Baz Luhrmans Romeo+Juliet many of the guns have Sword and Rapier engraved as names.

So sure. It works.

Posted by: blaster at June 22, 2025 09:12 PM (RoO7G)

124 Howdy Weasel and everyone else! Good time at the MoMe yesterday. Something I really look forward to, and it never disappoints! Can't wait for October. Be there!!

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 09:13 PM (RFPHU)

125 Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 09:13 PM (RFPHU)
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Thanks, brother. Always good to see you!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:14 PM (fLeXO)

126 124 Howdy Weasel and everyone else! Good time at the MoMe yesterday. Something I really look forward to, and it never disappoints! Can't wait for October. Be there!!
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 09:13 PM

###

Likewise!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 09:17 PM (lIgBp)

127 OK, 9:17 thank you time.

Thank you, especially to those who attended the NoVAMoMe. Appreciate it and hope you all make it again.

Hope to see everyone right back here next Sunday.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:17 PM (fLeXO)

128 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 09:18 PM (BCwQW)

129 I have discovered that the Tavor X95 with 30rd magazine fits perfectly in the below deck storage in the Genesis GV80. Held securely in place as if the Koreans designed it to be hidden there.

Sometimes the firearm sort of selects itself.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 09:03 PM (a4flb)

Any bullpup is just plain ugly IMO. The comfort factor is mostly in your head I guess because despite shooting a couple of them, putting a hole in the paper is just plain impossible for me.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 22, 2025 09:20 PM (89Sog)

130 Any bullpup is just plain ugly IMO. The comfort factor is mostly in your head I guess because despite shooting a couple of them, putting a hole in the paper is just plain impossible for me.

Five points of contact without counting the sling. For me, its the best CQB configuration available. Has the ergos of the AR but can be stuffed into a tennis racket case.

The Tavor is a bit clunky though when compared to the Desertech MDRx which is almost perfect for those who want compact sub MOA out of the box (the .300BLK is a dream)

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 09:26 PM (a4flb)

131 Biden will perform an interpretive dance July 4th.
Why? It's in depends dance day!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 09:27 PM (3VMuV)

132 RAGG
MOPP
Bunker Buster

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:38 PM (dDmld)

133 In high school, back when Linotype machines used lead for typesetting - JUST before the Merganthaler Linotron debuted - I discovered that I was a REALLY good Linotype operator. My future was set!
Progress can be disappointing.

Posted by: LeastinID at June 22, 2025 09:54 PM (vFrhm)

The CBD-Less Food Thread

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Good afternoon. CBD is out on secret assignment. Or he just wanted to take the day off from you Morons. I'm not sure.

Just remember, if you fall asleep cooking to the Mystery Click, it isn't my fault!


*****

Memorial Day weekend has passed. The Independence Day holiday has not yet to occur. So that can only mean one thing, amirite? Nothing like hosting a little get together with some hootchie-kootchie snacks.

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Seriously, a little smoked salmon, cheese spread and crackers always hits the spot. And if you have your own smoker you can have smoked salmon as often as your little heart desires.


*****


One of the disadvantages of living in The Frozen Tundra is that travel can be difficult at Christmas time. The Misanthropic children are scattered across the country. So we have taken to holding Christmas the week of July Fourth.


We are busy preparing for our first guests which arrive on June 30th. One of our traditions at Christmas in December or July is The Fabulous's Bailey's Irish Creme Cheese Cake.

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I've been advised this one is very close to her recipe.

I'll clue you in on a little secret, use Dark Chocolate chips. Skip the bittersweet and/or milk chocolate.

There will be a total of 9 people and 3 dogs here at Casa Misanthrope. Lots of grilling, fresh veggies and hopefully some fresh Lake Superior Lake Trout on the 4th.

Thank you CBD for letting me fill in today.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 03:54 PM




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Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 03:57 PM (FhXTo)

2 Thanks for filling in, MH!

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 03:57 PM (DgGvY)

3 Runs around waving Maple syrup bottle.

Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (FhXTo)

4 I would not want to clean the kitchen in the top pic. Modern conveniences FTW!

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (DgGvY)

5 St

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (FoIOl)

6 Well, shit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (FoIOl)

7 2 Thanks for filling in, MH!
Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 03:57 PM (DgGvY)

You're welcome mikeski!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (QXQ4l)

8 Thank you Mis Hum!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 03:59 PM (Xaaou)

9 That kitchen looks impervious to power outages. We have a wood stove for (sort of) that reason...in the event of an extended power outage we will at least be able to make coffee and heat up soup.

Posted by: HTL at June 22, 2025 04:00 PM (CbOLC)

10 That kitchen should come with a Wench

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 04:00 PM (iGK7y)

11 Just call me Late for Supper

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:01 PM (+qU29)

12 So does this mean we can have maple syrup on everything?

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:02 PM (+qU29)

13 Nice tradition, MisHum. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:02 PM (h7ZuX)

14 That cake looks pretty righteous! Gripe pork tenderloin and roasted spuds this afternoon, followed by cold beer and cigars on the patio under the fans.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 22, 2025 04:02 PM (3Ope8)

15 So does this mean we can have maple syrup on everything?

*chucka chucka chucka (sound of Manhattans being shaken)*

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 04:03 PM (Riz8t)

16 Actually had a very large salad already, and sun finally came out to grill a hamburger before leaving to work

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:04 PM (+qU29)

17 I would not want to clean the kitchen in the top pic. Modern conveniences FTW!
Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (DgGvY)


That is the kitchen with all the mod. cons. It was installed in what used to be the kitchen fireplace, one of those "walk in" cooking fireplaces that could also sit an old timer next to the fire.

I mean, they have three stoves there, a cook top for that new-fangled iron pan, one with a crane for getting the right height over the coals, and easy to move off, and an actual oven!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 04:04 PM (D7oie)

18 Thanks MisHum. Roast in oven, but I'm craving buffalo wings. Will see which wins out in a bit.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 04:04 PM (41CYW)

19 Gripe pork tenderloin
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Must be a Marine thing!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 04:05 PM (Xaaou)

20 Whose kitchen is that?

Posted by: dantesed at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (Oy/m2)

21 sun finally came out to grill a hamburger before leaving to work
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:04 PM (+qU29)

You use the sun to cook your burgers, Skiip?

*imagines Skip holding a large magnifying glass over the burger

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (h7ZuX)

22 Yay, food!

So, I have fresh green beans and chives, thyme, oregano, and sage in the garden. How shall I prepare the green beans?

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (rF2iL)

23 That kitchen looks handy to have November thru March

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2025 04:10 PM (IG7T0)

24 The threat all day has been pouring down rain

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:10 PM (+qU29)

25 How shall I prepare the green beans?
Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (rF2iL)

A written note explaining why you are going to consume them always worked for me.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 04:10 PM (iGK7y)

26 So, I have fresh green beans and chives, thyme, oregano, and sage in the garden. How shall I prepare the green beans?

With butter. Lots and lots of butter.

And a dash of salt.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 22, 2025 04:10 PM (/HDaX)

27 Good to see you Mis Hum, and sounds like a fine holiday planned.

Posted by: From about That Tim at June 22, 2025 04:11 PM (UQN+6)

28 20 Whose kitchen is that?
Posted by: dantesed at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (Oy/m2)


Could be Hillary's. I see her transportation hanging from the wall on the left...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Houskeeper at June 22, 2025 04:11 PM (PiwSw)

29 Isn't there a magnification box you can cook a hamburger by sun light?

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:11 PM (+qU29)

30 Our place in West Virginia has an outdoor oven made of brick and steel. The bottom is brick with the oven on top, sort of like that thing in the photo above, in the middle.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 04:11 PM (Q4IgG)

31 I've got about 6 lbs of fresh cherries from our very productive Juliette cherry tree, maybe 10 lbs of mulberries and 4 lbs of wild raspberries (with many, many more on the way), long with maybe 1.5 lbs of elderberries frozen from last year.

Tons of fruit, and my wife and daughters make pies and tarts with the cherries. I usually make mead with the raspberries and mulberries. Haven't decided what to do with the elderberries, although is seems like jams/jellies or syrups are the only real options.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2025 04:14 PM (ycI94)

32 I made Mrs. Murphy's Cheese Cake Pie today. It uses sweetened condensed milk. You know how you can put a can of that in a crockpot or simmering water for several hours and get caramel sauce?

Well, this can appears to have caramelized itself in my hot kitchen over the last several months. Expiration date is still months away, don't worry. And the can was sealed. It was tasty.

I was going to top the cheesecake with fresh cherries from the tree, but not sure if I will like that paired with a caramel flavor.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:14 PM (h7ZuX)

33 Thanks for filling in, MisHum. That is a beautiful picture up top and the Irish crème cheesecake looks delicious. I am usually tired after church so spouse made pizza for he and the son ( I can't eat that) and I had some frozen duck in mole' sauce to which I added some black beans, melted cheddar cheese and a dollop of sour creme. I don't go to Trader Joe's very often but they have some very different and nice frozen entrees.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 04:15 PM (2GCMq)

34 21 sun finally came out to grill a hamburger before leaving to work
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 04:04 PM (+qU29)

You use the sun to cook your burgers, Skiip?

*imagines Skip holding a large magnifying glass over the burger
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (h7ZuX)

The sun is a cruel master. It can overcook meat in no time. Be sure to coat your burgers in sunblock.

Posted by: Josh Brolin at June 22, 2025 04:17 PM (tgl2u)

35 SAUERKRAUT -- CREAMY AND MELLOW ... During last week's debate about hot dog toppings, I mentioned a cousin's version of sauerkraut ... However, because the thread was about to close, I offered to find the recipe later on and type it up for today's thread ... So, without further ado:

In a moderate saucepan with lid, fry 8 pieces of thick bacon until crisp. Leave grease in pan; drain bacon, crumble and set aside. Saute one medium onion (chopped) in the bacon grease just until tender. Add 32 ounces of either bagged or canned sauerkraut; mix thoroughly. Add 8 to 12 ounces of unsweetened applesauce; mix. Add crumbled bacon; stir to combine. Bring to a simmer; then cover and simmer all day, stirring occasionally -- at least 4 hours -- the longer, the creamier. Can also be slow cooked in a crockpot or the oven. Can be served either warm or cold. Goes well with hotdogs, bratwurst, or sauerbraten. Enjoy!

Posted by: Kathy at June 22, 2025 04:17 PM (qpw89)

36 I made lasagna for Sunday lunch, and a Mrs. Smith's apple pie with Breyer's Homemade Vanilla ice cream for dessert today.
An Italian friend turned us onto Little Italy Italian Gravy for our sauce. It's only available at Publix locally. I highly recommend it for your spaghetti/lasagna/pasta needs.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 22, 2025 04:17 PM (AThW+)

37 MisHum is always on point no matter how he is dragged into a post. Thanks MusHum for always being enjoyable.

Not a foodie here; I can't figure out most of the expos.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 22, 2025 04:18 PM (RqH5H)

38 Almost forgot, Hi MisHum!

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at June 22, 2025 04:18 PM (AThW+)

39 op the cheesecake with fresh cherries from the tree, but not sure if I will like that paired with a caramel flavor.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

Sounds divine!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 04:19 PM (Xaaou)

40 23 That kitchen looks handy to have November thru March
Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2025 04:10 PM (IG7T0)

It looks cozy for cold weather, doesn't it?

Dutch oven stews and good bread in the oven.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:19 PM (h7ZuX)

41 Do Not Press 2 For Spanish.

https://tinyurl.com/tjey7sja

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 04:20 PM (iGK7y)

42 Cooking in autumn?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 04:20 PM (63Dwl)

43 Hi, AZ deplorable moron!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:21 PM (h7ZuX)

44 20 Whose kitchen is that?
Posted by: dantesed at June 22, 2025 04:07 PM (Oy/m2)

Whose kitch' is dis?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2025 04:21 PM (0CU3H)

45 OT (or not) it's kind of warm out here.

I am trying to think of what sounds good to eat that does not sound miserable.

It must really suck further south in the moldy states.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 04:21 PM (zZu0s)

46 Less is more.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:22 PM (NC42u)

47 Hi, AZ deplorable moron!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs

Hi back at you! See you in TX?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 04:22 PM (Xaaou)

48 Sitting in the middle of a woods, on a ledge overlooking a swamp. Low 90's, humid, but cloudy coverage came in half hour ago . Eating an apple, contemplating life, the universe, and everything.
And catching up on the comments.

Posted by: From about That Tim at June 22, 2025 04:22 PM (UQN+6)

49 I have never u destroy the need to adulterate the perfection that is cheesecake.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 04:22 PM (zZu0s)

50 A written note explaining why you are going to consume them always worked for me.
Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 04:10 PM (iGK7y)


Always go to the Horde for the best recipes, medical remedies, and relationship advice.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 04:23 PM (rF2iL)

51 Understood the need.

Damn, phone fingers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 04:24 PM (zZu0s)

52 Made tuna, egg and bacon salad for lunch. Breaded and fried some avocado wedges on the side.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 04:24 PM (ITkJX)

53 Noticed I had lost my final "e" on the phone. Fixed.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 04:28 PM (UQN+6)

54 Hi back at you! See you in TX?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 04:22 PM (Xaaou)

I hope so! Depends on my mama's health and stroke recovery. I've scheduled the time off, so fingers crossed!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 04:29 PM (h7ZuX)

55 Was going to post a picture of 4 slabs of baby backs before they went on the smoker....don't know how.

Posted by: BigMeanie at June 22, 2025 04:35 PM (bl7YP)

56 The farmhouse on my parents 1st farm was built in the 1700s. It was build around a massive chimney in the middle of the house and every room had a fireplace.

The place hadn't been lived in for 50 years when my parents bought it and we were told live in owner was a very old man. In the room we used as a family room he had a wood stove that was piped into a what looked like a brick wall painted black and we assumed into the chimney.

I took a sledgehammer to the wall and low and behold there was a full cooking fireplace, sort of like the one above, complete with beehive oven behind the wall. Took a while to get it all cleaned up and repointed but that was a great fireplace.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 04:36 PM (viF8m)

57 I pulled out the sous vide crackpot yesterday and did a prime ribeye to 130 for two hours. Slapped it on a hot grill for about 1 minute per side. Best steak I ever made. All I put on the steak was salt and pepper.


I had put the sous vide thing away in the closet in the garage some years back because I wasn't getting the results I wanted. I saw a video on youtube and decided to give it a try again. I am glad I did.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 04:37 PM (e5NfL)

58
GRRRRRRRRRR.

My wood pellet grill is on the fritz again.

This time the motor died.

It should be under-warranty so it will get fixed but again I'm sure they'll send me the part and I do the work.

They should send me a bottle of PVW as a gomenasai gift.

Weber seems to be working overtime at spoiling their reputation for quality with me.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 04:37 PM (iJfKG)

59 I hope so! Depends on my mama's health and stroke recovery. I've scheduled the time off, so fingers crossed!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs

Prayers for a full recovery!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 04:38 PM (Xaaou)

60 Aetius, I live in hot and humid Va, and hate heat and humidity.
I'm 29 twice, and I've been too hot since about 45.

I've been doing lots of salads, both green and meat.

Tuna with everything, chicken with apple and tarragon, either on a bed of greens or rolled up in a tortilla.

Green salad with the works--all kinds of vegs, crispy onion, cheese, cold meat, any vinaigrette makes a great meal.

Last night's dinner was leftover pork tenderlooin thin-sliced into a tortilla, with some hoisin sauce (twice-cooked pork wrap for the win!), and the last of some fabulous bean salad.

I made a gorgeous walnut cranberry carrot cake last weekend, and it has been awesome on many levels: dessert with a clear conscience, because it is really a vegetable, or breakfast because the same, unless I have fruit and yogurt. Have to keep in fridge because of the cream cheese icing, so added props for being cold and refreshing as well as delicious.

If it isn't cold, I'm not eating it right now.

Posted by: barbarausa at June 22, 2025 04:38 PM (enw9G)

61 My cooking dilemma could also count as a FWP. Our current apartment has no place to put a grill, not even a small deck. Didn't realize what a drag that would be when we moved here.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 04:39 PM (0aYVJ)

62 Any reputation for quality is bot spam.

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2025 04:39 PM (IG7T0)

63 Made another Grandma Pie last night.

Delicious as always and stupidly easy.

This has blasted onto to rotation appearing once every 2-3 weeks.

Usually appearing with beer or cocktails.

Last night...Last Word Cocktails! So good.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 04:40 PM (iJfKG)

64 Hola horde. What’s cooking?

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 04:41 PM (s6DCS)

65 Sitting in the middle of a woods, on a ledge overlooking a swamp. Low 90's, humid, but cloudy coverage came in half hour ago . Eating an apple, contemplating life, the universe, and everything.
And catching up on the comments.

Posted by: From about That Tim


Good on you. If you aren't doing this regularly, it is an unexamined life, and you know what they say.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 04:42 PM (Riz8t)

66 Costco had copper river salmon, so that's what's for dinner tonight.

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2025 04:42 PM (Dsfkc)

67 Whistlepig Bourbon has grown on me this week. I was unsure at first but it's come into it's own with time.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 04:42 PM (iGK7y)

68 I can get Bell & Evans chicken if I drive to DFW, but only at Whole Paycheck or Central Market, and apparently *not* 'just pieces', only breaded or diced or whatever.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 04:43 PM (ULPxl)

69 Tonight’s a good night for roast Iranian. Probably too well done, though.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 04:44 PM (pNjYF)

70 Love that top photo but I would probably damage my forehead, or the bricks, leaning in to use the stove. The table's height is also suspect. I've learned that Colonial and Early American era kitchens are not designed for tall guys. Women who are 4 foot ten, no problem.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 04:45 PM (yTvNw)

71 Idk where to put this, please excuse me. but this is crazy rumors:
1st US to bomb Iran again, crypto dumps.
Now, Iran leaders have fled, draining the banks on the way out, crypto is pumping

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2025 04:45 PM (NwfFc)

72
Not a Cheesecake fan.

I know, I know, hang me now.

They're always so heavy and gloppy and pasty that they seemed designed more for holding your murdered body at the bottom of a lake instead of dessert.

Tell me that you want to ruin a meal without telling me that you want to ruin a meal.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 04:45 PM (iJfKG)

73 Meat and potatoes.

Melt some butter in a large pan. Add chopped garlic and chopped onions, let the garlic and onions saute a bit to get it into the butter. Add chopped meat, add black pepper to the meat, don't mix, let the meat sit on top of the butter, garlic, and onion. Let it cook a bit. Add chopped potatoes, salt and pepper the potatoes. Don't mix, let the potatoes sit on top of the meat. Cook until the potatoes are almost done then mix it all. Cook the rest of the way. Maybe top off with cheese.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 04:46 PM (i0F8b)

74 I had put the sous vide thing away in the closet in the garage some years back because I wasn't getting the results I wanted. I saw a video on youtube and decided to give it a try again. I am glad I did.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 04:37 PM (e5NfL)

For the sake of CBD's ego, it's probably best that ypu.posted this while he's on 'assignment'.

Heh

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2025 04:50 PM (UUQdC)

75 I cooked a smoked salmon a week or two ago. Set up the Weber kettle for indirect, skinned the salmon and put it to marinate in Italian salad dressing and fresh rosemary. Smoked it with hickory for an hour and a half at 275-300 degrees.

I wouldn’t have placed salmon with hickory, but it looked good and tasted better.

Posted by: Advo at June 22, 2025 04:50 PM (jO4mz)

76 Oh yeah, I forgot, cook covered.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 04:51 PM (i0F8b)

77 Just got in from lake. 94 temp/heat index 104. I chose poorly. But I did bring 2 racks of ribs from home so I don't have to grill. So there's that.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 04:52 PM (DfkdK)

78 Love the shark cootie pic. Thanks, MisHum.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 04:53 PM (DfkdK)

79 Hotdogs (not a sandwich) tonight. And potato salad. I think we have two different kinds/brands to try. Ball Park Beef Franks and Johnsonville Beef Brats.

*shrugs*

I just cook 'em, don't buy 'em.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 04:53 PM (Q4IgG)

80 cootie = coochie. Although, that sounds gross.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 04:54 PM (DfkdK)

81 Wandering off into different culinary pursuits. I was watching one of Chetna Makan's cooking videos and in one, she was doing a recipe from Katie Quinn's "Cheese, Wine and Bread", specifically Ratatouille Kachapuri. Video is as follows:

https://youtu.be/Xz2ZjV-z26s

It looked good enough that I popped the $4 for the Kindle version.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 22, 2025 04:55 PM (/HDaX)

82 72
Not a Cheesecake fan.

I know, I know, hang me now.

They're always so heavy and gloppy and pasty that they seemed designed more for holding your murdered body at the bottom of a lake instead of dessert.

Tell me that you want to ruin a meal without telling me that you want to ruin a meal.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 04:45 PM (iJfKG)

I only eat Italian cheesecake when I have the opportunity. American cheesecake - e.g. Junior's-style - is awful. Ricotta gives the Italian cheesecake a nice, grainy texture that is amazing to me. Not too sweet, either.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2025 04:55 PM (UUQdC)

83 Ball Park Beef Franks and Johnsonville Beef Brats.

*shrugs*

I just cook 'em, don't buy 'em.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
---------------

Both are winners imho.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 04:56 PM (DfkdK)

84 Last week I mentioned using dried chickpeas for the first time and how they were much better than canned. CBD said they make a difference in hummus. I am happy to say he is correct. We made a batch of hummus (with my required mass quantities of lemon juice) using the dried chickpeas. Big improvement. The result was creamier and the taste more vibrant. Our previous batches made with canned were fine but this one was really better.

I'm going to try dried kidney beans, limas (which I love) and navy beans next to see if they are also better than canned. The canned beans we have will remain in the prepper pantry and when I'm in a hurry.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 04:56 PM (yTvNw)

85 I made my first batch of home-cured Canadian bacon this week. A little salty, but overall pretty good. I've given away, or have plans to give away, about half of it. I need to get my smoker back up and running so the next batch will be finished in apple or cherry wood.

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2025 04:59 PM (Dsfkc)

86 Dogs love Bailey’s.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 05:00 PM (jgmnb)

87 Have Johnsonville Brats to grill later this week, they were froze so kept them that way

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 05:01 PM (+qU29)

88 Any speculation on where CBD might be?

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 05:02 PM (a4dG3)

89 My Daddy's Cheesecake is in my town. That's where I go for breakfast Saturdays when not laking it. They tried franchising but only got few locations. They make a/an? Jalapeno cheesecake that's a most excellent appetizer.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 05:02 PM (DfkdK)

90 Having a discussion about wine reviews and reviewers with a friend. Realized I hadn’t read them in years. Probably in a wine rut.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:03 PM (s6DCS)

91 If you’re looking for a fluffier, less creamy cheesecake, try Italian style or German. My grandmother made a really good Italian style. She was as German as a brat on sauerkraut invading Poland during Oktoberfest, but she could cook like an old-school Italian. She was also surprisingly good with southern and ‘soul’ food. The furthest south she ever was was the Steel Pier. But she could cook like a serious southerner.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 05:03 PM (pNjYF)

92 Did I mention that I made Blackened Redfish last week?

I made Blackened Redfish last week!!!

I was excited about that because it's been years since I've eaten BR. Seeing as how they were so overfished that they became a hard to find, luxury item.

Anyway, they farm them now and these were good. Redfish and the blackened style go hand in hand.

Long ago and far away, I was home from college for the summer to New Orleans and my Dad said, "Hey, come down to the office about 10:45. I want to take you to lunch at this new place. Don't be late or we can't go, the line will stretch around the block."

So, we get there just as the place opens and there's this big fat guy cooking in a kitchen about the size of a pantry. We got the last open table ( there were like 12 plus/minus 2). And Dad says, "we need to order the Blackened Redfish. They run out of it fast. The cook Paul Prudhomme invented it, that's him in the kitchen. It's really really good. People are crazy about it."

One of the best meals of my life. A truly new dish. I'd never tasted anything like that before.

So wherever I cook Blackened Red Fish, I get a nostalgia bomb about hanging with my Dad.

It's a twofer!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:04 PM (iJfKG)

93 "Just remember, if you fall asleep cooking to the Mystery Click, it isn't my fault!"


How about a little Rat Tomago?

youtu.be/c6fKl-huexE?

Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at June 22, 2025 05:04 PM (vFG9F)

94 Hey Pug, gave you a snarky response last week at the end of the food thread. My apologies. It was uncalled for. I must have been sober for too long or at least too late in the day.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:06 PM (s6DCS)

95 I'll have the salad ...

: -(

Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Sunday . . . at June 22, 2025 05:07 PM (cfyxU)

96 Last night...Last Word Cocktails! So good.
Posted by: naturalfake


Chartreuse is slowly reappearing on the store shelves. I snagged a bottle a few months ago.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 05:08 PM (DgGvY)

97 Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:06 PM (s6DCS)

No worries. If it helps, I missed it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 05:08 PM (0aYVJ)

98 Last night...Last Word Cocktails! So good.
Posted by: naturalfake

Chartreuse is slowly reappearing on the store shelves. I snagged a bottle a few months ago.
Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 05:08 PM (DgGvY)


Yeah, still tough to find. When you see it, you snag it.

If you can't find Chartreuse and crave a Last Word "Strega" liqueur makes a very good substitute.

Not exactly the same but still a great cocktail.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:11 PM (iJfKG)

99 Any speculation on where CBD might be?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 05:02 PM (a4dG3)
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French prison.

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 05:11 PM (79pEw)

100 94 Hey Pug, gave you a snarky response last week at the end of the food thread. My apologies. It was uncalled for. I must have been sober for too long or at least too late in the day.
Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:06 PM (s6DCS)
That’s how Mrs. E does it, waits til I’m walking out the door, then says something.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 05:13 PM (jgmnb)

101 Any speculation on where CBD might be?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 05:02 PM (a4dG3)
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French prison.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 05:11 PM (79pEw)


Devil's Island. His offense merited it.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:13 PM (iJfKG)

102 99 Any speculation on where CBD might be?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 05:02 PM (a4dG3)
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French prison.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 05:11 PM (79pEw)
Headed to Devil’s Island.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 05:13 PM (jgmnb)

103 bluebell and Weasel still basking in the success of the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 05:14 PM (ZIggv)

104 > Any speculation on where CBD might be?
Posted by: Weasel
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"Your MoMe"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 05:14 PM (Q4IgG)

105 Tried some canned salmon for the first time. Always had fresh or smoked before. To my surprise, it was rather bland. Not bad, just not much flavor. I made the equivalent of tuna salad for a sandwich. I'll stick to fresh from now on and use canned tuna which is cheaper.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 05:15 PM (yTvNw)

106 99 Any speculation on where CBD might be?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 05:02 PM (a4dG3)
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French prison.
Posted by: bluebell
*************
Bluebell for the win!!!!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 05:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

107 Horde mind.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 05:16 PM (jgmnb)

108 "French prison.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 05:11 PM (79pEw)
Headed to Devil’s Island.
Posted by: Eromero"

I hope he has a plan.

Posted by: Guy who saw Papillon at June 22, 2025 05:16 PM (vFG9F)

109 Cheesecake is nasty.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 05:16 PM (mT+6a)

110 I hope they serve him French toast with maple syrup and shaken Manhattans while he is in prison.

Wait, scratch that. That stuff's too good for him. Cauliflower all the way.

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 05:18 PM (79pEw)

111 108 "French prison.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 05:11 PM (79pEw)
Headed to Devil’s Island.
Posted by: Eromero"

I hope he has a plan.
Posted by: Guy who saw Papillon at June 22, 2025 05:16 PM (vFG9F
And a wallet.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 05:18 PM (jgmnb)

112 This is a FWP but it's food related, so: WTF do some chain restaurants offer a search but not a *map* of locations on their website? If I'm going on a road trip I don't want to search every fcking 50 miles to see if you're nearby. Slackers!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 05:19 PM (ULPxl)

113 And have Shoo-fly pie

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 05:21 PM (+qU29)

114 Ben Had,
In another thread you mentioned making your own limoncello and peachcello and how easy it is. Both sound delicious. Do they have to be aged? If so, about how long would you suggest?

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 05:23 PM (yTvNw)

115 Good afternoon. CBD is out on secret assignment.

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I knew it! CBD is a Mossad secret agent.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 22, 2025 05:25 PM (Splbu)

116 One of our traditions at Christmas in December or July is The Fabulous's Bailey's Irish Creme Cheese Cake.

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Nomnomnomhic

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 22, 2025 05:26 PM (Splbu)

117 JTB, I normally age mine about a month. Give it a try. Meyer lemons make the best.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 05:27 PM (ZIggv)

118 More maple syrup for this French toast, please.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 05:27 PM (YvKAa)

119 Just as an aside: I just saw Bernie Sanders' stupid mug on my startup page, and I recall one of the best descriptions of him ever: He looks like he combs his hair with a balloon.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 05:31 PM (0aYVJ)

120 It’s going to be a near enough thing for me that I’d hate to get to the end of my review and have Saint Peter say “well Mr Bog the committee reviewed your record and despite some misgivings has agreed to allow you to join us. Please step through the threshold….. just a moment Mr. Bog, it seems your Ace of Spades food thread comments from June 15th of 2025 had escaped our review. I’m afraid that the scale has tipped against you.”

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:32 PM (s6DCS)

121 Hey, Chef. What's cooking?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 05:33 PM (ZIggv)

122 119 Just as an aside: I just saw Bernie Sanders' stupid mug on my startup page, and I recall one of the best descriptions of him ever: He looks like he combs his hair with a balloon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 05:31 PM (0aYVJ)

That idiot is heading to Amarillo if he hasn’t visited already. The Amarillo Community Calendar did not indicate a specific date that I can recall.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 05:35 PM (vm8sq)

123 117 ... "I normally age mine about a month. Give it a try. Meyer lemons make the best."

Ben Had,
Thanks. I enjoy sipping fruit liquors for the taste and for digestion. And local peaches are starting to come in. Tomorrow, off to the store to see if they still have any meyer lemons.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 05:36 PM (yTvNw)

124 Hello Ben Had,

L&T and I took the week off. Went back to our old stomping grounds for a little wine tasting and dining out. Getting inspired in the event CBD doesn’t return from Devils Island and I am called off the bench.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:37 PM (s6DCS)

125 I never did understand what the culinary issue was with putting maple syrup on French toasttToo sweet? What are the alternatives- fruit? Just not having French toast.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:37 PM (2GCMq)

126 I never did understand what the culinary issue was with putting maple syrup on French toasttToo sweet? What are the alternatives- fruit? Just not having French toast.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:37 PM (2GCMq)


CBD likes salt as his French Toast topping.

Weird, amirite?

I suppose he sees it as a savory dish.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:40 PM (iJfKG)

127 Has any ones of yous ever tried Jepson's Malort--which is reputed to be the worst tasting liquor in the world? Just curious.

Posted by: Still lurking up north at June 22, 2025 05:40 PM (kTd/k)

128 Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:40 PM (iJfKG

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:41 PM (2GCMq)

129 What do the French put on their French Toast?

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 05:41 PM (i0F8b)

130 Off to the salt mines, why to pop.in at lunch time on ONT
Have a great afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 05:42 PM (+qU29)

131 I love real maple syrup. I hate the "pancake syrup" stuff. just flavored corn syrup. Blech. Far too many restaurants use that instead of real syrup. So I seldom get pancakes at a restaurant.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 05:42 PM (0aYVJ)

132 Ben Had,

For your limoncello? How many lemons, how much sugar and water? A 750 ml bottle of vodka?

Will Valurite work or do I need to use the HEB brand?

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:42 PM (s6DCS)

133
Has any ones of yous ever tried Jepson's Malort--which is reputed to be the worst tasting liquor in the world? Just curious.
Posted by: Still lurking up north at June 22, 2025 05:40 PM (kTd/k)


Yes.

The flavor isn't bad but it's very bitter. I think that's what people object to.

Try Fernet Branca. It's very bitter but a better digestive IMO.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:42 PM (iJfKG)

134 off sock

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 05:44 PM (aBgBM)

135 Pete Bog, the kitchn has a really good recipe. I'd go with the Valurite though.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 05:45 PM (ZIggv)

136 Cheesecake is binary. A good cheesecake is light, airy and delicious. Most of them are heavy congealed globs of Crisco and crappy cream cheese.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 22, 2025 05:46 PM (s6DCS)

137 133
Has any ones of yous ever tried Jepson's Malort--which is reputed to be the worst tasting liquor in the world? Just curious.
Posted by: Still lurking up north at June 22, 2025 05:40 PM (kTd/k)

Yes.

The flavor isn't bad but it's very bitter. I think that's what people object to.

Try Fernet Branca. It's very bitter but a better digestive IMO.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 05:42 PM (iJfKG)

Soju is actually listed as a Bitter at the LCBO.

Not bad with Orange Juice. But about 19% alcohol. Popular in South Korea, China and Japan, I guess.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 05:47 PM (jvJvP)

138 We have a new topic for forum fights- cheesecake. 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:48 PM (2GCMq)

139 Pug,
Try topping your pancakes with two over easy eggs.


My favorite.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 05:51 PM (RycRI)

140 Live is hard. At my favorite pub in the Las Cruces area for one, ok fine, two delightful pale ales and a grilled chicken wrapped with salad. Since this is a place with customers, more friends actually, who have been coming here for years and years the camaraderie and conversations we share are almost as good as the beer. Plus sunshine.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 05:52 PM (Wc2yw)

141 A good cheesecake is as dense as a neutron star.

Bunch of loose shit getting thrown around in this thread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 05:52 PM (zZu0s)

142 Pug,
Try topping your pancakes with two over easy eggs.

My favorite.
Posted by: nurse ratched
___________

I like pancakes and I like eggs. But I'm not trying that.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 05:53 PM (ITkJX)

143 Nurse! How was the Spokane-adjacent MiniMoMe?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 05:53 PM (yMdDU)

144 Cheesecake is binary. A good cheesecake is light, airy and delicious. Most of them are heavy congealed globs of Crisco and crappy cream cheese.
Posted by: Pete Bog

I am holding out for a provolone cheese cake.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 05:55 PM (Wc2yw)

145 If you want light an airy, just squirt some redi whip down your throat.

NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 05:57 PM (zZu0s)

146 @125 - maybe he prefers honey. I sometimes put that on pancakes.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2025 05:58 PM (CHHv1)

147 Limoncello can also be made with tequila.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:02 PM (ZIggv)

148 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:03 PM (a4dG3)

149 139 Pug,
Try topping your pancakes with two over easy eggs.


My favorite.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 05:51 PM (RycRI)
Mrs. E puts maple syrup on her waffles and eggs.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:05 PM (jgmnb)

150 148 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:03 PM (a4dG3)

Aye

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 06:05 PM (VE6XX)

151 Mrs. MKC just got home from a weekend trip to Lake of the Ozarks. She saw one or two of the
B-2s landing at Whiteman on her way home. Got a pic with the landing gear down...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 22, 2025 06:05 PM (kOluj)

152 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:03 PM (a4dG3)
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🙋🏻‍♀️

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 06:06 PM (79pEw)

153 "All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?"

LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 06:06 PM (2GCMq)

154 I can’t eat waffles and eggs on the same plate.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:06 PM (jgmnb)

155 Well it's unanimous! Remind me to tell CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:07 PM (a4dG3)

156 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:03 PM


We can set up a raid on the canadian national maple syrup reserve stash and get what we want. I doubt they could stop us.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 06:07 PM (e5NfL)

157 Aye!

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2025 06:07 PM (IG7T0)

158 I use molasses.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:07 PM (ZIggv)

159
I love layering pancakes and eggs and smothering with butter and MAPLE SYRUP!!

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 06:08 PM (3ek7K)

160 I am holding out for a French toast, drenched in cranberry vodka, grilled chicken wrap. I admit it is a bit of niche idea but I am positive it will catch on.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:09 PM (Wc2yw)

161 Tell me that you want to ruin a meal without telling me that you want to ruin a meal.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 04:45 PM (iJfKG)

I only eat Italian cheesecake when I have the opportunity. American cheesecake - e.g. Junior's-style - is awful. Ricotta gives the Italian cheesecake a nice, grainy texture that is amazing to me. Not too sweet, either.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2025 04:55 PM (UUQdC)

This.

Do add a bit of minced lemon rind, and serve with good espresso..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2025 06:09 PM (bA75n)

162 I don't like maple, at all. Not syrup, not candy, not the icing on the donut. So I'm the weirdo who prefers "pancake syrup," as I don't feel that it approximates the taste of maple syrup.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 06:10 PM (h7ZuX)

163
I hate when I order pancakes or waffles at a restaurant and they bring you a tiny cup of syrup. What's the point?

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 06:11 PM (3ek7K)

164 Which is more authentic? Del Taco or Taco Bell?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:11 PM (Wc2yw)

165 151 Mrs. MKC just got home from a weekend trip to Lake of the Ozarks. She saw one or two of the
B-2s landing at Whiteman on her way home. Got a pic with the landing gear down...
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 22, 2025 06:05 PM (kOluj)

Good ol' Knob Noster.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 06:13 PM (vm8sq)

166 Don't sharks have cloacae, not coochies?

Posted by: Not a marine biologist at June 22, 2025 06:13 PM (TbWk/)

167 Tried some canned salmon for the first time. Always had fresh or smoked before. To my surprise, it was rather bland. Not bad, just not much flavor. I made the equivalent of tuna salad for a sandwich. I'll stick to fresh from now on and use canned tuna which is cheaper.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 05:15 PM (yTvNw)

Best is canning your own salmon and making equivalent of tuna salad for a sandwich.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2025 06:13 PM (3DZJ3)

168 I went all Weasel today and had chicken biscuits with white gravy on them. 2 min 30 sec.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:14 PM (ZIggv)

169 A simple meal of one pork chop and rice did it for me today.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 06:14 PM (vm8sq)

170 Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:14 PM (ZIggv)
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Nice! Yum!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:15 PM (a4dG3)

171 Which is more authentic? Del Taco or Taco Bell?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:11 PM (Wc2yw)

Taco Bell kept me upright when I was a poor young man stocking shelves in Arizona. But it's gone way downhill since.

Oddly, I like Del Taco crispy tacos. Inexpensive, and seemingly fresh. I've never tried their other menu items.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 06:15 PM (0aYVJ)

172 164 Which is more authentic? Del Taco or Taco Bell?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:11 PM (Wc2yw)

Del Taco because it has two Spanish words in it.

Posted by: It's still all texmex at June 22, 2025 06:15 PM (TbWk/)

173 My limoncello.

8-10 Meyer lemons (depends on size)
750ml 100-proof vodka
Simple syrup - ratio of 2 parts infused vodka/3 parts simple syrup

I carefully peel the outer skin off the lemons, making sure almost no pith remains (scrape on the inside with sharp paring knife). Put the skins in the vodka, leave under the counter in the kitchen for 5-8 weeks. Should be a distinct yellow hue to the vodka when done. Pour the vodka through cheesecloth, mix with room temp simple syrup, then it goes/stays in the freezer.

It's good.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:15 PM (1m82a)

174 I hate when I order pancakes or waffles at a restaurant and they bring you a tiny cup of syrup. What's the point?
Posted by: four seasons

I collect glass ones, now plastic. They make great shot glasses right after coming home from rehab.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:16 PM (Wc2yw)

175 Weasel, I'll have a stash for you in October.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:16 PM (ZIggv)

176 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:03 PM

Chuy-level cruelty.

Aye.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 06:16 PM (yMdDU)

177 I could live there!

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 22, 2025 06:16 PM (7NkZG)

178 Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:16 PM
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:18 PM (a4dG3)

179 rhomboid, thank you showing up with your recipe. It is the very best.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:18 PM (ZIggv)

180 Had never been in a Del Taco until about 6 years go, up in Murieta (SEAL buddy was selling his M1A). It was meh, forget what I got. Haven't been back.

Taco Bell? Probably not since ..... high school? They were kind of a novelty then.

But growing up mostly on good border Mex, and especially when the made-to-order fast-food Mex places became a thing in the 80s, those two gringo chains were always mostly a curiosity.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:19 PM (1m82a)

181 176 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 06:03 PM

Chuy-level cruelty.

Aye.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 06:16 PM (yMdDU)

Second. I further move to declare that French toast is NOT a savory food item and putting salt thereon is the exclusive province of pseudo-hipster wannabe foodie homos with delusions of superior taste.

Posted by: Let's get the record settled at June 22, 2025 06:21 PM (TbWk/)

182
Did a fish fry using the vodka-beer batter yesterday, worked well, would advise you consider how much spice and pepper you want for the dry mix portion and then double it

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2025 06:21 PM (j4U/Z)

183 I went all Weasel today and had chicken biscuits with white gravy on them. 2 min 30 sec.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:14 PM

Sometimes the simple ways are the best ways.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 06:22 PM (yMdDU)

184 Welcome Ben Had. Maybe some day I'll be able to deliver some.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:22 PM (1m82a)

185 >>I hate when I order pancakes or waffles at a restaurant and they bring you a tiny cup of syrup. What's the point?

There was a little mom and pop restaurant near my parents place in Vermont. They made great waffles and always brought a pitcher of warmed maple syrup. The good stuff. Nothing better on a cold, winter morning.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 06:22 PM (viF8m)

186 rhomboid, it would be a honor to share a glass with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:24 PM (ZIggv)

187 I miss chilicheese burritos from taco bell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 06:25 PM (YUL+W)

188 55 Was going to post a picture of 4 slabs of baby backs before they went on the smoker....don't know how. Posted by: BigMeanie at June 22, 2025 04:35 PM (bl7YP)

I email my pics to CBD. He usually finds a use for them..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2025 06:26 PM (bA75n)

189 There was a little mom and pop restaurant near my parents place in Vermont. They made great waffles and always brought a pitcher of warmed maple syrup. The good stuff. Nothing better on a cold, winter morning.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 06:22 PM (viF8m)

Morning beejers are pretty good too, so I've heard.

Posted by: The best part of waking up at June 22, 2025 06:26 PM (TbWk/)

190 But growing up mostly on good border Mex, and especially when the made-to-order fast-food Mex places became a thing in the 80s, those two gringo chains were always mostly a curiosity.
Posted by: rhomboid

Living in New Mexico where divine carne asada tacos are the norm I find both exotic. The edge used to go to Del Taco because they had 79 cent tacos on old people on fixed income taco day. That all ended because of Biden. I still mourn those good old days.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:26 PM (Wc2yw)

191 On a x-c ski trip in VT back in the 90s, I drove around looking for the maple leaf sign placed near the driveway, the indication maple syrup is for sale.

Finally came across the perfect place. Farmhouse with the barn right near the driveway. Sign. I get out of the car, the farmer's dog comes running up to sniff. Guy is on his small tractor. Vermont Yankee accent. Wearing a plaid wool jacket.

I always used to buy only Grade B (much more/better flavor, to me). Ask if he's still got any Grade B. "Think so." Follow him into the barn, he climbs up to a storage area. Fortunately, got his last can. The big rectangular ones with the handle, like kerosene used to come in. Was my best maple syrup buying experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:26 PM (1m82a)

192 RMBS, just seemed like that kinda day. Hope your working on range babe about Oct.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:27 PM (ZIggv)

193
Found a honey hole, so twice a week breakfast is Brookies (9"), broiled dipped in lemon butter sprinkled with salt & pepper.

A taste fine enough to bring tears of joy.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 22, 2025 06:27 PM (hKoQL)

194 Honor would be mine, Ben Had.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:28 PM (1m82a)

195
Ben Had,

Do you have any idea why ScaryMary has stopped posting here? I really like her and have been worried if something is wrong. She had to have her dog put down and I haven't seen her.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 06:29 PM (3ek7K)

196 Maud'dib is the King of syrup makers.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:29 PM (ZIggv)

197 So now they (USDA I guess) has gone and created one of the more truly ridiculous revised nomenclature systems for maple syrup. Used to be very simple. Couple grades of A, and Grade B (as I recall). Now? Can't even remember, but it's a wordy confusing formulation. Perhaps I'm missing a lot but it's the dumbest nomenclature revision of any sort I can recall. I somehow still figure out what's the equivalent of Grade B, and get that.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:30 PM (1m82a)

198 four seasons, I sent her an email yesterday.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:31 PM (ZIggv)

199
Thanks Ben Had. I've been concerned.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 06:33 PM (3ek7K)

200 193
Found a honey hole, so twice a week breakfast is Brookies (9"), broiled dipped in lemon butter sprinkled with salt & pepper.

A taste fine enough to bring tears of joy.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 22, 2025 06:27 PM (hKoQL)

Adirondacks, yes? In a previous life, I'd make an annual trip to Lake Minerva. Mostly pulled pike, bass, and perch from there...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2025 06:33 PM (bA75n)

201 143 Nurse! How was the Spokane-adjacent MiniMoMe?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


Super fun!

How was the MacroMoMe in NoVa?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 06:34 PM (mT+6a)

202 I always used to buy only Grade B (much more/better flavor, to me). Ask if he's still got any Grade B. "Think so." Follow him into the barn, he climbs up to a storage area. Fortunately, got his last can. The big rectangular ones with the handle, like kerosene used to come in. Was my best maple syrup buying experience.
Posted by: rhomboid

When I lived in Washington State I often found myself puttering around the Columbia River in and around Chelan during the apple harvest. Often I would find unattended roadside stands chock full of fresh pick apples. Sometimes the rancher might post a price, sometimes not. The always present Folgers can would be full of cash. Making change like picking your apples was self serve. I sometimes wish I could go live those days one more time in the fall.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 06:35 PM (Wc2yw)

203 RMBS, just seemed like that kinda day. Hope your working on range babe about Oct.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:27 PM

She'll be there if it's at all possible. She's having some health concerns just now, so please keep her in your prayers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 06:37 PM (yMdDU)

204 Super fun!

How was the MacroMoMe in NoVa?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 06:34 PM

It was great. Smaller than usual, but lots of fun. Tried to convince some new folks to make the trek to TX. We did some shooting this afternoon followed by beer and BBQ. Now just resting up for the drive home tomorrow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 06:40 PM (yMdDU)

205 Did you say "secret assignment"?

Somebody had better put extra security on the strategic maple syrup reserve.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 06:40 PM (FVLcK)

206 RMBS, oh no. I will definitely ask for her healing and good health. She doesn't need to do anything more than be there. The bacon bread was beyond fantastic but that was so much work. Getting to meet her is a heart memory.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:41 PM (ZIggv)

207 All in favor of making maple syrup the official syrup of the Food Thread?
Posted by: Weasel
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Absolutely!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 06:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

208 >>When I lived in Washington State I often found myself puttering around the Columbia River in and around Chelan during the apple harvest. Often I would find unattended roadside stands chock full of fresh pick apples. Sometimes the rancher might post a price, sometimes not. The always present Folgers can would be full of cash. Making change like picking your apples was self serve. I sometimes wish I could go live those days one more time in the fall.

Sounds similar to Vermont. My folks had an apple cider press and we made gallons of the stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 06:41 PM (viF8m)

209 Wine making was in the hobby thread and I have amemory of my mother and aunts stomping grapes in a big wooden vat.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:44 PM (ZIggv)

210 There's a great roadside produce stand up in CaliGirl's 'hood (Santa Barbara County) with the self-serve set-up.

Produce is picked right there and great. Even better really is just the high-trust social framework of food and a can of cash by the road, totally safe.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 06:45 PM (1m82a)

211 The Iranian parliament just ordered the Straights of Hormuz closed! And I just ordered Sydney Sweeney to flop her delicious meat-puppets on my face...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 22, 2025 06:47 PM (XMwZJ)

212 Thanks mh

Tonight Boy F. and I are having Stouffer's Frozen Lasagna. Mrs. F. is down for the count.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 06:48 PM (RIvkX)

213 RMBS, oh no. I will definitely ask for her healing and good health. She doesn't need to do anything more than be there. The bacon bread was beyond fantastic but that was so much work. Getting to meet her is a heart memory.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:41 PM

Thanks, Ben Had. There's lots of time between now and October, so hopefully all will be well by then.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 06:49 PM (yMdDU)

214 Wine making was in the hobby thread and I have a memory of my mother and aunts stomping grapes in a big wooden vat.
Posted by: Ben Had

Nonno and his brother would make wine every year. They'd let us kid stomp some of the grapes - grape fun!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 06:50 PM (cYBz/)

215 FRENCH TOAST (FANCY) ... Youngest granddaughter recently graduated kindergarten, so we took her and her parents out for breakfast after the ceremony ... While waiting for our table, Daughter-in-Law mentioned she was in the mood for French Toast ... But her face lit up like a Christmas tree when she saw on the menu that this cafe offered French Toast made with pound cake ... And there was no need for maple syrup, because it came with a bowl of whipped cream on the side! ... Forgot to ask, but I bet needed a nap when she got home.

Posted by: Kathy at June 22, 2025 06:53 PM (qpw89)

216 Grilled pound cake with roasted white peaches. Thanks, Pete Bog.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:55 PM (ZIggv)

217 Thank you, Mis Hum.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 06:59 PM (ZIggv)

218 AZ deplorable moron! Long time no see!

If you scroll back to yesterday's gardening thread, I left a limerick there for you. It's about the Epsom Salts.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 22, 2025 07:08 PM (MX0bI)

219 Gubs nood

(Sweeps out food thread..)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2025 07:09 PM (bA75n)

First World Problems

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The past three summers have seen me falling behind on yard work. And oh boy do I have projects planned. Both on paper and in my mind.

My current project is to clean up stepping stones. I'm also planning on installing several new 4"x 4" x 8' for bird feeder stations. Although I have a fair number of lawn and garden tools I do not own a post hole digger or a lawn edger attachment.

So I called the local company whose name is, "Owner's Name Rentals, Sales & Service". I asked if I could rent a lawn edger and power auger. Well unless I had a tractor with a PTO they didn't have an auger for me. What about an old fashioned post hole digger? That wasn't there either. So I decided the bird feeders can wait.

The sidewalk edger? It is an item that may or may not be on their Wish List. I then asked where I might find such equipment. I was advised of a national chain hardware store approximately 45 minutes away that has an outstanding rental outlet.

Hmmm 90 minutes of drive time? I don't think so. So with a couple of shovels, some elbow grease and sweat, I was able to save a few bucks, keep the earth green and clean up those dang stepping stones.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 02:00 PM




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Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 02:01 PM (+qU29)

2 ST.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:02 PM (je3ji)

3 CBD taking the day off or has he run out of FWPs?

Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2025 02:03 PM (lJ0H4)

4 A little C4 would solve both problems. Fun too.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2025 02:03 PM (2UnvF)

5 Got behind on yard work here, finally used extra daylight yesterday to weed trim and didn't get it all done.
Thunderstorm coming it sounds like

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 02:04 PM (+qU29)

6 Nth

Posted by: CapeFear at June 22, 2025 02:04 PM (+JzKz)

7 First the NoVa MoMee just *happens* to be scheduled hours before the US bombs Iran, now CBD is incognito.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 02:04 PM (ULPxl)

8 Time to sell.

Posted by: Always the default answer at June 22, 2025 02:05 PM (lIgBp)

9 I've got acres to mow, but it's over 90F and the humidity is horrible. No end in sight.

Tomorrow's another day....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 02:05 PM (Q4IgG)

10 Here's a FWP that just might dovetail nicely into the Food Thread:

I bought a box of Shake and Bake and wouldn't you know, it had no plastic bags - you know, to shake with. So I had to get some large sandwich bags separately to shake the coating onto the pork chops.

WTF is this?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:06 PM (vm8sq)

11 Not your steppin' stone. Not your steppin' stone.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 02:06 PM (WrtZ/)

12 By posthole digger, do you mean a clamshell digger? Those are available at all hardware stores, and aren't expensive.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:07 PM (Riz8t)

13 I used to be a big do it yourselfer. Now that I'm well past 29, my toolbox contains a cell phone and a credit card.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM (2UnvF)

14 When I built my house, I had two criteria for renting or owning equipment.
First, could I hire it done cheaper than I could buy or rent the tool(s)?
Second, could I even do it?
Whether I ever used the tool again never entered into it.
Anybody want to buy a nice electric tin snip?
How bouts a joist hanger nail gun?

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM (cPGH3)

15 By posthole digger, do you mean a clamshell digger? Those are available at all hardware stores, and aren't expensive.

Plus, you can chase your wife around and pretend to snap at her with it. It's loads of fun.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM (Riz8t)

16 Hurry up with the feeders. We're hungry.

Posted by: The Squirrels at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM (lIgBp)

17 12 By posthole digger, do you mean a clamshell digger? Those are available at all hardware stores, and aren't expensive.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:07 PM (Riz8t)


They're cheap because nobody wants to use them.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 02:09 PM (W/lyH)

18 12 By posthole digger, do you mean a clamshell digger? Those are available at all hardware stores, and aren't expensive.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:07 PM (Riz8t)

I will have to think about investing in a clamshell (post hole digger)
They cost $50 or more.
I just wanted to dig a few holes.......

Hint, hint, Casa Misanthrope could always use a Bobcat

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 22, 2025 02:10 PM (QXQ4l)

19 Hurry up with the feeders. We're hungry.
Posted by: The Squirrels at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM (lIgBp)

And a professor shall lead them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 02:10 PM (WrtZ/)

20 Conspiracy. It's all a conspiracy!

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 02:11 PM (ilX37)

21 I bought a box of Shake and Bake and wouldn't you know, it had no plastic bags - you know, to shake with. So I had to get some large sandwich bags separately to shake the coating onto the pork chops.
WTF is this?
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:06 PM (vm8sq)

Same here a few weeks ago. Got the Shake and Bake pork and no plastic bags, only the crumbly stuff. Had to use a large bowl instead. Cheap bastards.

Posted by: Disappointed at June 22, 2025 02:11 PM (R/m4+)

22 Some smart ass on the interwebs.

Iran has become unburdened by what has been.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 02:11 PM (L/fGl)

23 https://tinyurl.com/2v7cjyfp

Get gloves. I get blisters when I use straight-handled anything.
YMMV

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:12 PM (cPGH3)

24 The backyard, which may officially be mine by the end of the month, has a nice forestlike quality.

I've made peace with that.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 02:12 PM (jvJvP)

25 14 When I built my house, I had two criteria for renting or owning equipment.
First, could I hire it done cheaper than I could buy or rent the tool(s)?
Second, could I even do it?
Whether I ever used the tool again never entered into it.
Anybody want to buy a nice electric tin snip?
How bouts a joist hanger nail gun?
Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM (cPGH3)

That is good criteria when you first move into a new house, especially a new build.

I had rented an earth auger to put in 4x4 posts for the doggey yard.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 22, 2025 02:12 PM (QXQ4l)

26 Big FWP: Last night the roofs of several of my properties caved in, unexpectedly. Asking for recommendations for proven experts at cavern roof debris removal and new roof construction. Must be willing to travel and bring all necessary manpower, materials, and equipment. Will pay in barrels of oil or virgins.

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Hossein H. Hossein at June 22, 2025 02:13 PM (aBgBM)

27 Save your bread bags for Shake and Bake night.

Posted by: Shrinkflation at June 22, 2025 02:13 PM (lIgBp)

28 3 CBD taking the day off or has he run out of FWPs?
Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2025 02:03 PM (lJ0H4)

He has taken the day off.

I was and still am happy to have been able to fill in today.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 22, 2025 02:13 PM (QXQ4l)

29 Plus, you can chase your wife around and pretend to snap at her with it. It's loads of fun.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:08 PM


Plus to that, you can scroll right past the Viagra ad near the top for a month or so.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 02:14 PM (0sNs1)

30
4 A little C4 would solve both problems. Fun too.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2025 02:03 PM (2UnvF)

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For the bird feeder footing, just drive a one-inch hole a couple of feet straight down, and run a short length of Primacord down the hole. You can put a trash bag of water on top before detonation.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 22, 2025 02:14 PM (QwK6F)

31 I get blisters when I use straight-handled anything.
YMMV
Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:12 PM


Me, too.

Posted by: Wm. J. "Bubba" Clinton at June 22, 2025 02:16 PM (0sNs1)

32 For the bird feeder footing, just drive a one-inch hole a couple of feet straight down, and run a short length of Primacord down the hole. You can put a trash bag of water on top before detonation.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

I love useful tips...

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:16 PM (cPGH3)

33 Over the course of 12 years, I've built and extended a flagstone patio and dry stack fieldstone retaining wall with nothing but a spade and trenching shovel. It's now about 7 or 800 square feet. Probably could have done it in a quarter of the time with proper rented tools.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 02:16 PM (ITkJX)

34 By posthole digger, do you mean a clamshell digger? Those are available at all hardware stores, and aren't expensive.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:07 PM (Riz8t)


They're cheap because nobody wants to use them.


My first house was in a neighborhood called Stoneybrook. It was well named. The "soil" was 90% stones. I dug a couple of dozen holes in it with a clamshell digger. I was quite buff when I finished.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:16 PM (Riz8t)

35 I have a post hole digger attachment for my 1025r. Doesn't get much use, but when needed - it makes life easier.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 02:17 PM (41CYW)

36 Turns out the tool that helps the most is a tile spade.

https://tinyurl.com/3yy9m4mn

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 02:17 PM (lIgBp)

37 You can dig a hole with a post-hole digger?!! Lucky you!

Right after we moved here we told the guy at Home Depot's rental center that we wanted an auger. He asked what for and we told him we were digging holes to plant several vitex (chaste tree) plants. He asked where we lived and when we told him he said, "Auger won't do it. You're going to need a jackhammer."

He was neither kidding nor exaggerating. It's the only way you can dig any deeper than 2 or 3 inches in our yard.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 22, 2025 02:17 PM (FEVMW)

38 One useful thing I've learned is that hired brawn is cheaper than chiros or ER visits.
"A man's gotta know his limitations"

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:18 PM (cPGH3)

39 I love a good tool time!

Posted by: Tim Taylor at June 22, 2025 02:19 PM (0sNs1)

40 Speaking of bags, my FWP:
There is now only one place that still offers those thin plastic bags we used to find (for free) at the store. They are perfect for dumping my vacuum debris into. The alternative is using the ones they charge 9 cents for and I for damn sure don't want to pay for those damn bags.
Happily the one place is the Class VI store on Ft Lewis. (Military liquor store) Thus, supplies are sufficient the next month or so.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 02:20 PM (W/lyH)

41 36 Yep. A tile spade and a pickmattock and then you're ready to go. Handy things to have around.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2025 02:20 PM (gm9Sb)

42 Honey bees have decided part of my house shall be their home but to get close enough to spay them it's necessary to chainsaw several limbs from a couple of trees that are in brush where a snake lives. So I'll have to cut the brush before I get to the trees. And it's so darn hot. Think I'll have a glass of iced tea and work on the plan.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:21 PM (DNJiU)

43 Honey bees have decided part of my house shall be their home but to get close enough to spay them it's necessary to chainsaw several limbs from a couple of trees that are in brush where a snake lives. So I'll have to cut the brush before I get to the trees. And it's so darn hot. Think I'll have a glass of iced tea and work on the plan.
Posted by: braenyard-

Check around. Lots of beekeepers will come get that hive.

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:23 PM (cPGH3)

44 A flat shovel makes an excellent edger

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 02:23 PM (IG2sK)

45 Tim, this would be a good time to mention the Binford Postalator 6000.
Remember: if it doesn't say Binford on it, somebody else makes it.

Posted by: Al Borland at June 22, 2025 02:23 PM (lIgBp)

46 A (sharpened) flat shovel makes an excellent edger
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Suggested edit.

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:24 PM (cPGH3)

47 Always spay and neuter your honeybees.

Posted by: SPCA at June 22, 2025 02:24 PM (lIgBp)

48
42 Honey bees have decided part of my house shall be their home but to get close enough to spay them it's necessary to chainsaw several limbs from a couple of trees that are in brush where a snake lives. So I'll have to cut the brush before I get to the trees. And it's so darn hot. Think I'll have a glass of iced tea and work on the plan.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:21 PM

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You could try driving them out with a smokey fire.

Posted by: Guy Who Got His Name In The Paper at June 22, 2025 02:25 PM (cQWrP)

49 Beekeeper, excellent idea.

Make that shovel a sharp shooter.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:25 PM (DNJiU)

50 @46; correct

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 02:26 PM (IG2sK)

51 We are starting to experience wasps taking up residence. In years past we had the red ones that don't seem to bother humans. This year it seems to be the black ones that do (no racist stuff intended). Must stop at True Value tomorrow for the needed spray.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2025 02:26 PM (gm9Sb)

52 Always spay and neuter your honeybees.
Posted by: SPCA

Another useful tip!

Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:26 PM (cPGH3)

53 I wonder if a power washer could work well as a post hole digger. I've seen videos where people use it to dig deep well holes.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 22, 2025 02:26 PM (cduTK)

54 I had an old "brick" path out in the back yard that was a broken ankle breaker, so I pulled it up and relaid it with salvaged concrete paver tiles. I found out later, when I made a smaller path that the best thing to do is make sure there is a 1/4 or 1/2" space between all the pavers tp sweep in crushed limestone or crushed limestone mixed with sand as a sort of crappy mortar. It keeps the weeds and grass down.

I am going to have to dig up the first walkway and reset it since the grass is coming up from the tight joints, and it is really hard to pull.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)

55 it's necessary to chainsaw several limbs from a couple of trees that are in brush where a snake lives. So I'll have to cut the brush before I get to the trees.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:21 PM


No step on snek.

Posted by: A. Reminder at June 22, 2025 02:27 PM (0sNs1)

56 53 - Seems like you'd need some nuclear level psi for that to work.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 02:28 PM (ITkJX)

57 This is about us, isn't it?

https://youtu.be/nDcpexDjvAM

Posted by: Ginger, Mary Ann & Mrs. Howell at June 22, 2025 02:29 PM (lIgBp)

58 If you can knock down the wasp nest early, there's a good chance they will move on.

Wasps are actually good for a number of things but they are best when they do their thing far away from you.

Posted by: pawn, the original at June 22, 2025 02:29 PM (W23tn)

59 My first house was in a neighborhood called Stoneybrook. It was well named. The "soil" was 90% stones. I dug a couple of dozen holes in it with a clamshell digger. I was quite buff when I finished.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2025 02:16 PM (Riz8t)


Does that describe the texture, color or state of undress?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 02:29 PM (D7oie)

60 Whenever I consider a DIY project at home, I always ask myself this question: "Will I fuck it up and make things worse?" The usual answer is yes. That's when I hire someone to do it. Unfortunately I learn by doing, not by watching some Youtube video, and learning by doing can be very very pricey for DIY home projects. So I usually don't bother unless it's a nobrainer.

Posted by: Farquad at June 22, 2025 02:29 PM (YkGND)

61 Two times I've rented an auger with a motor mounted on top. Shopping cart handles on each side, Two man operation. Both times it just sits on top and turns.
It will finally do the job but it's not what you expect when you rent it.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:30 PM (DNJiU)

62 53 When I lived in Erie, a friend and I put up a fence using his ice auger (nut ice fisherman). Thing would go down a little over three feet, nice and light. Kept a hose handy to keep the auger clean. This was a small two cycle, but I imagine you could use a hand powered with patience and soft ground.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2025 02:30 PM (gm9Sb)

63 I put in 20 4"x4" postholes using only a hand post-hole digger over the course of the winter. Clay/sand is all we got here. Not a rock for over a hundred miles that wasn't trucked, barged, or railed in. Used nearly 40 bags of Quikrete, too all mixed in a wheelbarrow. Going slow gets it done.

Posted by: oldnorthstate at June 22, 2025 02:31 PM (G5+As)

64 Augur? I just met her?

Posted by: Rimshot at June 22, 2025 02:31 PM (lIgBp)

65 Always spay and neuter your honeybees.
Posted by: SPCA


Obviously an ad from Big Veterinarian.

Save money; you only have to fix the queen bee.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 02:31 PM (DgGvY)

66 Backhoe. Every redblooded patriot with at least 2 acres should have have a backhoe

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 02:32 PM (jgmnb)

67
In years past we had the red ones that don't seem to bother humans. This year it seems to be the black ones that do (no racist stuff intended).

Black and yellow will sting a fellow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 02:33 PM (63Dwl)

68 A tile spade is actually a vey useful tool to have around.

Posted by: pawn, the original at June 22, 2025 02:33 PM (W23tn)

69 Augur? I just met her?
Posted by: Rimshot


Could have socked it "Donald Duck" for the extra biology joke.

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 02:33 PM (DgGvY)

70 *Two man operation. Both times it just sits on top and turns.*

Used to date her.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at June 22, 2025 02:35 PM (lIgBp)

71 hmmm... don't you just use your weed eater for lawn edging? Maybe you don't have one of those.

Anyway, a small hack for the post hole is shovel some, fill with water, let it drain a little, shovel some more.

Also its garage sale season, cheap tools.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2025 02:35 PM (rvwwT)

72 If you can knock down the wasp nest early, there's a good chance they will move on.

Wasps are actually good for a number of things but they are best when they do their thing far away from you.
Posted by: pawn, the original


Wasps are asshoe, but ordinary asshoe.

Hornets are nuclear asshoe, and should be dealt with using Fordow-like methods.

$*#($%$ yellowjackets.....

Posted by: mikeski at June 22, 2025 02:35 PM (DgGvY)

73 The Chinese gold miners in CA, "hydraulicked" away entire hillsides and creekbanks, driving the material into big sluice boxes to extract gold. The power of water is awesome. Sometimes better to flood and level the property and start over. There was no EPA at the time.

Posted by: Mine Kampf at June 22, 2025 02:35 PM (G5+As)

74 My landscaping goals are pretty well smashed at the moment. I want to install a retaining wall in my mid-back yard. My house is situated on a tall ledge outcropping which results in a slowly eroding grade that was put in during the home's construction in 1983. I'd like to arrest that erosion with a retaining wall but I'm extremely concerned about what the price will be. I'm guessing at least $25k for what I want.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 22, 2025 02:36 PM (WYStd)

75 A manual post hole digger costs about $30 and is some of the best exercise one can get.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 02:37 PM (Vfq+S)

76 66 Heh. A friend's father, guy about my age, gentleman farmer, has a little Kubota backhoe/front loader mostly for amusement. His favorite Seinfeld episode is the one with the psychos digging holes in Central Park. He was laughing one time, saying since he got it he needs dirt delivered.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2025 02:37 PM (gm9Sb)

77 63 I put in 20 4"x4" postholes using only a hand post-hole digger over the course of the winter. Clay/sand is all we got here. Not a rock for over a hundred miles that wasn't trucked, barged, or railed in. Used nearly 40 bags of Quikrete, too all mixed in a wheelbarrow. Going slow gets it done.
Posted by: oldnorthstate at June 22, 2025 02:31 PM (G5+As)
I built a 3600 sq ft deck and dug holes for half and socket blocks for half. Mrs. E dug (almost) the last hole. She said ‘why am I digging this hole? I have an Accountant Degree.’. I said ‘because I have the tape measure.’.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 02:38 PM (jgmnb)

78 If you are going to dig a hole, do try augury, the birds can often tell you the most auspicious place to site it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 02:38 PM (D7oie)

79 The car started making funny noises. Just what I needed. Oh, well....

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 02:39 PM (Lhaco)

80 Funny, ha ha, or...?

Posted by: Your mechanic at June 22, 2025 02:40 PM (lIgBp)

81

Have the Democrat scum & Fake News politicized the weather, yet?

We going to reach temperatures not seen since...

last year!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 PM (PFL30)

82 I have gutter drains that exit out from a retaining wall and then floods my front sidewalk. The water is supposed to drain onto the side of the walk and then flow down the side to the driveway. But a year ago I had an irrigation line blowout and the aftermath clogged up, dammed up the little dirt path on the side that the water was supposed to take. So, my summer project is to put in a kind of french drain situation to get the water flowing again. My progress on that thus far has been disappointing.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 22, 2025 02:43 PM (cduTK)

83 More belicose threats from Iran.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:43 PM (je3ji)

84
Backhoe. Every redblooded patriot with at least 2 acres should have have a backhoe
Posted by: Eromero


I concur, ol' chum.
A Cat 349 should be adequate.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:43 PM (PFL30)

85 High temperatures in the US today are due to the incendiary actions taken in Iran yesterday.
Shame on you!

Posted by: Greta The Great at June 22, 2025 02:44 PM (lIgBp)

86 Had nap but no rain showed up with the thunder

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 02:44 PM (+qU29)

87
A manual post hole digger costs about $30 and is some of the best exercise one can get.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


a.k.a. the knucklebreaker

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:44 PM (PFL30)

88 Filling sandbags with nothing but entrenching tools. And fifty years later your back is still bitching about it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2025 02:45 PM (gm9Sb)

89 They have a powered one that is much faster.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:45 PM (je3ji)

90 *They have a powered one that is much faster.*

I have several.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 22, 2025 02:47 PM (lIgBp)

91 N.East coast & WA to the rockies is supposed to be hot. S.East will be cooler. Atlantic seaboard may receive a hurricane. Sea surface temps in the Gulf of America are too cool to feed. cyclone.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:48 PM (DNJiU)

92 I come to this thread for the complaining. If I wanted stories of grit, determination and resourcefulness in the face of a 90-minute commute, I would read Instapundit.

"I solved my problem with a shovel." What the hell is that? Where's the nasal whining, the sense of entitlement, the spite?

Screw it, there's nothing I can do. Reading Instapundit is out of the question.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 22, 2025 02:49 PM (MX0bI)

93 Thunder rumbling is so constant at my joint right now it's sounds like a white noise machine.

No accompanying rain just yet.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:50 PM (VofaG)

94 Hey, big boy...

Posted by: Matt Drudge at June 22, 2025 02:51 PM (lIgBp)

95 Hot Air?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:51 PM (je3ji)

96 Remember the manual edger? Like a wheeled pizza slicer with spike blades.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:51 PM (VofaG)

97 Always spay and neuter your honeybees.
Posted by: SPCA

Get the 304s spayed.

Posted by: Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Everyone at June 22, 2025 02:51 PM (TbWk/)

98 A (sharpened) flat shovel makes an excellent edger
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Suggested edit.
Posted by: MkY at June 22, 2025 02:24 PM (cPGH3)


Make sure it's light weight enough for the Mrs.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (W/lyH)

99 83 More belicose threats from Iran.
Posted by: Boss Moss
------

They remind me of a child that needs a spanking.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (DNJiU)

100 My first world problem today is Friday I swapped vehicles with the wife so I could get a service done on her car and now I need a new clutch in my pick up.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (LgDgc)

101 Thunder only happens when it's raining...

Posted by: Fleetwood Mac at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (lIgBp)

102 Square spade.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (je3ji)

103 Everyone is freaking out because the temperature is going up in, checks calendar, the summer. And they're all using "heat index" now.

"Heat index" is transexual-temperature, i.e. pretend temperature.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (cduTK)

104 clam shell diggers suckm get an Adjustable Dirt Auger, you'll thank me later.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 02:53 PM (Xaaou)

105 Billy Mays here! Tired of digging and digging just to put in a mailbox or fence post? How about trying the new MiniMOP? Small enough to fit in your hand, loud enough to wake up the neighborhood. Penetrates to five feet, and then the fun begins. Get yours now, but wait. Buy two and get free shipping!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2025 02:53 PM (gm9Sb)

106 83 More belicose threats from Iran.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:43 PM (je3ji)


Bill Belicose! What a coach!

Posted by: Belicose Fan at June 22, 2025 02:56 PM (PiwSw)

107 Even when this doofus gets it right, he gets it wrong.

Read the comments, too:

https://tinyurl.com/mphrvk2b

Has this putz ever been mentioned over the years here at AOS? Curious.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 02:57 PM (NC42u)

108 The Chinese gold miners in CA, "hydraulicked" away entire hillsides and creekbanks, driving the material into big sluice boxes to extract gold. The power of water is awesome. Sometimes better to flood and level the property and start over. There was no EPA at the time.
Posted by: Mine Kampf


No epa but the judges house flooded due to the silt an he shut down Malakoff Diggins State Historic Park.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 02:57 PM (Xaaou)

109 101 Thunder only happens when it's raining...
Posted by: Fleetwood Mac at June 22, 2025 02:52 PM (lIgBp)


Player only love you when they're playing...

Posted by: Who wrote it, Stevie or Lindsey? at June 22, 2025 02:57 PM (PiwSw)

110 I have a pickaxe you can borrow if you promise not to bring it back.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 22, 2025 02:58 PM (7NkZG)

111 I saw the last few minutes of "X-Men: Last Stand" yesterday.

I didn't know Ellen Page was Kitty Pryde. She was so damn cute. Very pretty.

FWP .... Look what they did to her.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 02:58 PM (jvJvP)

112 More belicose threats from Iran.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 02:43 PM (je3ji)
-

Well, they were bellicose to developing a nuclear weapon but now not so much.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 02:59 PM (NC42u)

113 FWP .... Look what they she did to her herself.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 02:58 PM (jvJvP)

--

Fixed.

Posted by: Who wrote it, Stevie or Lindsey? at June 22, 2025 02:59 PM (PiwSw)

114 Look what they did to her.

It is a sin that cannot be forgiven.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 03:00 PM (7xrfc)

115 First world problem + a helpful hint from Kurt Schlicter today: “If you’re curious to learn more about bunker busters, when you Google the weapon system for goodness sake do not forget to include the word “ordnance” when searching for “massive ordnance penetrator.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 03:00 PM (EVFZ5)

116 saw the last few minutes of "X-Men: Last Stand" yesterday.

I didn't know Ellen Page was Kitty Pryde. She was so damn cute. Very pretty.

FWP .... Look what they did to her.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 02:58 PM (jvJvP)

Whip It was her best movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 03:01 PM (VofaG)

117 Salutes from Jerusalem:

https://tinyurl.com/2vpdwbrx

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:03 PM (NC42u)

118 Got less than three hours before have to leave for work

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 03:04 PM (+qU29)

119 Do edgers still have the whirling thick metal piece of death?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 03:05 PM (zZu0s)

120 The sidewalk edger?


Try Ryobi one tool battery one from home depot. I have their model and it works fine for me and I have about eleventygazzillion feet of driveway to edge.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 03:05 PM (e5NfL)

121 Salutes from Jerusalem:

https://tinyurl.com/2vpdwbrx

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:03 PM (NC42u)
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And from Tel Aviv:

https://tinyurl.com/82ne8xp8

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:06 PM (NC42u)

122 Everyone is freaking out because the temperature is going up in, checks calendar, the summer. And they're all using "heat index" now.

"Heat index" is transexual-temperature, i.e. pretend temperature.

Posted by: banana Dream



I heard that the meteorologist that came up with the heat index died recently. He was 86, but felt like he was 92.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 03:06 PM (Vfq+S)

123 Neither one costs that much money, Mr Cheapskate

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 03:07 PM (iGK7y)

124 Just planning to do something produces 80% of the endorphins you get from actually doing it. I guess that is one of the reasons I can plan something to death without getting it done.

Posted by: toby928 at June 22, 2025 03:07 PM (jc0TO)

125 I bought an auger type digger when the pounding on my shoulder was too much. Works pretty well.

Ask your neighbor if you can borrow his post hole digger ... one neighbor surely has one.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2025 03:07 PM (vbXSk)

126 Salutes from Jerusalem:

https://tinyurl.com/2vpdwbrx
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Nice touch!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 03:09 PM (Xaaou)

127 107 "Although I believe electing Kamala Harris would have been better for our democracy, society, and economy, as well as for helping the most vulnerable people in the United States and around the world"

Good grief. That man is mainlining copium by the gallon on that statement.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 03:11 PM (7xrfc)

128 Air raid over Tabriz.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 03:13 PM (je3ji)

129 Hmmm 90 minutes of drive time? I don't think so.

180 if you want to return it.

Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2025 03:14 PM (MkLs2)

130 Here's a post problem I bet none of you have had.

The guy who tunes my piano says he's never been able to keep the post of his mailbox straight. He'll shim it and it will last for a few weeks or a couple of months but then lean again. So even though he has no handyman skills (bcse musician) he decided to rent a posthole digger and dig an official hole.

He discovered the post wouldn't stand up straight because it was resting on the front seat of a car. A completely buried car he knew nothing about.

!!!

My daughter says there's probably a body in the trunk.

Posted by: Wenda at June 22, 2025 03:14 PM (Uz2Kf)

131 And from Tel Aviv:

https://tinyurl.com/82ne8xp8


So you can get a 100 foot long banner made and delivered in 24 hours? Or they had those on hand just in case they might come in handy?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 22, 2025 03:18 PM (wWEE9)

132 "He discovered the post wouldn't stand up straight because it was resting on the front seat of a car. A completely buried car he knew nothing about."

Dolan's Cadillac ?

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 03:18 PM (iGK7y)

133 Mr. Hoffa's car?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 03:19 PM (je3ji)

134 "What about an old fashioned post hole digger? That wasn't there either. So I decided the bird feeders can wait."

If you are looking to put in top mounted feeders, I use black Iron pipe. I use 3/4" or 1" depending on size of feeder, three sections of pipe, two couplings and a flange to attach to the bottom of the feeder. Attach the coupler tightly to the pipe to be buried so the threads are not damaged by the hammer blows. Set the second coupler fairly high so squirrels can't aim for it to get over the squirrels guard, but low enough for ease of detaching the feeder for cleaning without fiddling with the flange.

Setting the feeder this way makes it easy to move occasionally around the yard.

Posted by: Dusty at June 22, 2025 03:19 PM (JjNlG)

135 Okay. So.. we um have been unburdened by what has been... and with that we look for the good umm well as you know haha umm hehhehehe *cough excuse me. Umm where were we? Oh yeah as I was saying umm Iran got the bomb and there is no more Tel-aviv. Thank you and goodnight!!!

Posted by: Alternate timeline president kamala at June 22, 2025 03:20 PM (LgDgc)

136 Whip It was her best movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 03:01 PM (VofaG)

Thanks!

She was excellent in "Hard Candy" too and still kind of cute, in a weird way.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 03:22 PM (jvJvP)

137 >>> He discovered the post wouldn't stand up straight because it was resting on the front seat of a car. A completely buried car he knew nothing about.

!!!

My daughter says there's probably a body in the trunk.
Posted by: Wenda at June 22, 2025 03:14 PM (Uz2Kf)


In new subdivisions contractors will use the whole area as a dumpsite thinking they can bury everything deep enough. Broken equipment, generators, whole vehicles. One problem is giving food to termites, when they dump a bunch of lumber, depending on how it was treated. Also as stuff rots it can start the soil caving in.

My neighbors and I dug up all sorts of junk, along with giant rocks typical of around here.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 22, 2025 03:25 PM (cduTK)

138 My daughter says there's probably a body in the trunk.
Posted by: Wenda at June 22, 2025 03:14 PM (Uz2Kf)


Bunny Didn't Tell Us is a story about revenge from beyond the grave, in this case, the coffin in that grave is a stretch limo that a murdered pimp was buried in

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 03:28 PM (D7oie)

139 I was and still am happy to have been able to fill in today.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 22, 2025 02:13 PM (QXQ4l)

Thanks MisHum!

My FWP (well one of many): my garage is completely filled with boxes, junk, more boxes, more junk, it's basically become a dumping ground. Throw in a rat problem that we had and you have rat poops etc (eew gross). I want to clean everything up but there's no room to organize stuff in situ or really even move around. I've let it go for too long and I can't take it anymore (not going to blame my wife, not going to do it...) So now I guess I gotta rent some pods or uhaul portable storage and go that route, in the heat of the summer.

Posted by: The call is coming from INSIDE the house at June 22, 2025 03:29 PM (8hxDK)

140 Too bad CBD's incommunicado.

He could give us a pretty good idea of how the bombing is playing with the You're a Peein's.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 03:30 PM (iJfKG)

141 140 Too bad CBD's incommunicado.

He could give us a pretty good idea of how the bombing is playing with the You're a Peein's.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 03:30 PM (iJfKG)

Honestly ? Don't give a shit how it's playing with them.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 03:32 PM (iGK7y)

142 buy a dumpster and a tarp

Put anything that has resale value or actual family treasures on the tarp, and everything else that is neither gold, a tool or a firearm into the dumpster.

You don't have belongings if you can't get to them because they are covered in other belongings. You just have "urban compost" of the sort that those Fentanyl addicts roll around in shopping carts from highway over pass to highway overpass.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 03:32 PM (D7oie)

143 121 Salutes from Jerusalem:

https://tinyurl.com/2vpdwbrx

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:03 PM (NC42u)
-

And from Tel Aviv:

https://tinyurl.com/82ne8xp8
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:06 PM (NC42u)


That is so sweet! It's nice to see a sane response to Trump's actions.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 22, 2025 03:33 PM (rF2iL)

144 When excavation was done to install our cistern it quickly became apparent that we picked a spot where the former ranch dumped all of their trash. 2 dump trucks later filled with tires, shoes, a water heater, bumper from a truck, bailing wire, you get the idea we called off additional clean up. The excavating company back filled with a bit of trash and the rest soil.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 03:35 PM (2NHgQ)

145 142 buy a dumpster and a tarp

Put anything that has resale value or actual family treasures on the tarp, and everything else that is neither gold, a tool or a firearm into the dumpster.

You don't have belongings if you can't get to them because they are covered in other belongings. You just have "urban compost" of the sort that those Fentanyl addicts roll around in shopping carts from highway over pass to highway overpass.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 03:32 PM (D7oie)


Perhaps also put The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning on the TBR pile.

Posted by: Ask not for whom the bell tolls at June 22, 2025 03:38 PM (PiwSw)

146 First world problems are a consistent source of pleasure.

You need to be thankful your life can provide these issues with so little true consequence.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 22, 2025 03:38 PM (hKoQL)

147 92...Where's the nasal whining, the sense of entitlement, the spite?

Posted by: Bombadil

Oof, my bad! I assumed this was a CBD thread. I didn't mean to knock Mis Hum.

It just goes to show, CBD is his own brand.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 22, 2025 03:38 PM (MX0bI)

148 So you can get a 100 foot long banner made and delivered in 24 hours? Or they had those on hand just in case they might come in handy?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 22, 2025 03:18 PM (wWEE9)
-

I think they were put up already last week as a response to Trump's standing by Israel and threatening Iran.

But from other ads here, I think the ad and billboard companies can work very fast when they need/want to.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:40 PM (NC42u)

149 My FWP?

I had a personal record for drive time between Spokane and Seattle until I hit traffic TWO MILES from my place.

I missed it by ONE MINITE.

Four hours, two minutes. It was super easy drive. Made great time. Passes were a breeze.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:41 PM (mT+6a)

150 Just planted a One Way street sign my wife found and wanted in our backyard. Dug the post hole digger, or two handled heart attack. Love, love, love digging in our hard clay I do. Got er done, half a bag of redi mix and the sign proudly stands! Plumb even!
My yard yells if I try to not edge, I can't sleep. I have used a 2 stroke powered system for years. String trimmer, then edger. Good results.

Posted by: Miflin at June 22, 2025 03:44 PM (aA6YN)

151 Congratulations to DJT and senior officials for keeping op sec. We have all talked about discretion, but we have never seen real time results.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 22, 2025 03:45 PM (RqH5H)

152
You know, if this was December 22nd instead Gay Pervert 22nd, it would be dark by now, and the furnace would be firing, and I'd be happy, thinking of Christmas Eve.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 03:46 PM (ntCiD)

153 FWP…gotta buy a new putter. The wood one I have needs to be refinished and I can’t wait 6 weeks for it to be done.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 22, 2025 03:46 PM (3Ope8)

154 First world problem: being able to live where you want (preferably far away from general bullshit. And neighbors).

Corollary: Being too far away from first world amenities. Something my wife and I go back and forth on quite a bit.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2025 03:47 PM (MZ+PY)

155 They have 3 more lots that they will building houses on on my street/ culdesac. I'm not looking forward to the construction noise and mess.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 03:47 PM (VofaG)

156 130 Here's a post problem I bet none of you have had.

The guy who tunes my piano says he's never been able to keep the post of his mailbox straight. He'll shim it and it will last for a few weeks or a couple of months but then lean again. So even though he has no handyman skills (bcse musician) he decided to rent a posthole digger and dig an official hole.

He discovered the post wouldn't stand up straight because it was resting on the front seat of a car. A completely buried car he knew nothing about.

!!!

My daughter says there's probably a body in the trunk.
Posted by: Wenda at June 22, 2025 03:14 PM (Uz2Kf)


Nope, never heard of that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at June 22, 2025 03:49 PM (QXQ4l)

157 My first world problem is my yard work is done as part of my HOA fees and they ain't that good because it's not done with love. They have a lot of houses and they just want to get done with each house as soon as possible.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 03:50 PM (VofaG)

158 At least Sunday drive is almost like coming home at night but rest of the week it takes me a hour and half to get to Delaware

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 03:52 PM (+qU29)

159 When excavation was done to install our cistern it quickly

Did your brethern also get installed?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 03:54 PM (kTd/k)

160 157 HOA fees

Yeah, that was a dealbreaker when we were house hunting. We ended up building and screw anyone who doesn't like what I do in my own yard.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 03:55 PM (iGK7y)

161 Digging holes in my sandy region is easy. What is difficult is the numerous pine, oak, gum and hickory roots that lie in the first 12 inches of soil. For that I have a long steel rod, 1 inch diameter, about 20 pounds with a point on one end and a 1 1/2 inch blade on the other. Very effective.

Posted by: CapeFear at June 22, 2025 03:56 PM (+JzKz)

162 Gonna be in triple digits next week and Tha’ lil Puddin head baby had to put her car in the shop, so I get to ride the scooter so she can drive my car.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 22, 2025 03:57 PM (3Ope8)

163 NOOD Food

Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 03:57 PM (FhXTo)

164 My FWP today is Verizon sucks and we've decided to switch to Starlink because maybe it's 10 seconds faster

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (iGK7y)

165 I have to kill a half-day in NYC in a few weeks. I'll be on the one-night trip with my wife, but she will be at the Whitney for several hours and I have to fill that time. We are on or near 46th Street, she tells me, close to Broadway. I already plan on killing time on the first day at a nearby beer garden, and I can spend forever at the MONH, but looking for suggestions.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 22, 2025 03:58 PM (2cS/G)

166 154 First world problem: being able to live where you want (preferably far away from general bullshit. And neighbors).

Corollary: Being too far away from first world amenities. Something my wife and I go back and forth on quite a bit.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2025 03:47 PM (MZ+PY)


We moved from a house outside the city limits to a house just a few blocks from downtown. We can hear city parades and festivals from our porch. We have great neighbors (helpful but non-intrusive) and we are enjoying being able to walk to church, the library, parks, and restaurants. It's been a good transition for us, especially having a smaller yard as our yard work ambitions have decreased.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 04:00 PM (rF2iL)

The (Insert Curse Adjective) Unserious Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA) & The Rest Of Them

Of course the following was written before last night's Iran strike. Rumor has it that Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) is now waving an "I Stand With Iran" banner.


When you think of nationally elected democratic representatives and senators what do you think?

Do you think of them as entitled, self-absorbed pond scum sucking weasels? If you do, who am I to judge!

Do you think of them as hypocritical, self-serving, power hungry scavengers? If your answer is yes. You are not alone.

Since November 7, 2024 it is nearly impossible to keep tabs on their immature behavior.


Which leads me to the fvcking stupid Hank Johnson of Georgia. Yes, that Hank Johnson, the Intellectual Wizard of Georgia's 4th District.

He certainly isn't a financial guru. Or is he so honest he refuses the sweet nectar of graft and corruption?

Has Rep. Johnson ever been serious a day in his legislative life? How in the fvck can you take this piece of ass wipe seriously?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 12:10 PM




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1 The ultimate DEI hire

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (VE6XX)

2 Comment

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (IG7T0)

3 The nood alert has been given

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (omVj0)

4 Good afternoon Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (+qU29)

5 Hank Johnson needs to tip over.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (sZI8v)

6 So Iran erected a toll booth at the mouth of the strait?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:00 PM

Nick Sortor @nicksortor

The Iranian Parliament has just ORDERED the closing of the Strait of Hormuz

OVER 20% of global oil production flows through the strait.

Might see US Navy intervention here.

https://bit.ly/3ZKWFK2

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (P5BPp)

7 Must be something in the water in Kentucky.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (u73oe)

8 Might see US Navy intervention here.

https://bit.ly/3ZKWFK2
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (P5BPp)

Rubio just said they will

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:13 PM (VE6XX)

9 One wonders besides their voting block they get guilt voting

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:13 PM (+qU29)

10 Scum sucking Siberian snow pimps?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 12:14 PM (W/lyH)

11 BOING!

Shaddap, Margaret!, he said.

https://tinyurl.com/yphnnh2f

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:14 PM (NC42u)

12 @amuse @amuse

IRAN WAR: If Iran's Supreme National Security Council decides to follow the Iranian Parliament's vote to shut down the Strait of Hormuz the real victim will be Iran's economy. Over 90% of its oil exports travel through the strait. The US can easily bring more production online. Shutting down the strait would be suicide for Iran...

X: https://bit.ly/4kMKm8k

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:15 PM (P5BPp)

13 Dear Iran

How will close the strait? Your air force is junk. Your navy is once again sitting on the ocean bottom.

A toll booth is your only option and you hope the other guy lacks any dimes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (sZI8v)

14 We either give Iran the Carthage Cure or we get another Iraq Afghanistan

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (IG7T0)

15 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:14 PM (NC42u)

How are things ? Has it calmed down any ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (VE6XX)

16 I think the Navy will have a say in this

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (+qU29)

17 Eric Daugherty @EricLDaugh

JUST IN: Marco Rubio RESPONDS to Iran potentially closing the Strait of Hormuz.

“It will be another terrible mistake. It's economic suicide for them if they do it, and we retain options to deal with that."

X Video: https://bit.ly/466nhc8

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:17 PM (P5BPp)

18 The NY Times is upset because... DEIve bombers:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9wpmb8

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:18 PM (NC42u)

19 Carthago delenda est.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:18 PM (je3ji)

20 Speaking of books . . .

Disgraced Democrat "Super Mayor" [Tiffany Henyard (who?)] Charges $99 for Tell‑All Book While Dodging FBI Probe

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The grift must flow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)

21 Margaret Brennan is a buffoon.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 12:18 PM (W/lyH)

22 End Wokeness @EndWokeness

Oil from the Hormuz Strait supplies:

5% of America's total oil supply
50% of China's total oil supply

Iran would be crippling their ally China by closing off Hormuz. That is the last thing Iranians would want right now.

X: https://bit.ly/4jZLeFq

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (P5BPp)

23 Dear Iran

How will close the strait? Your air force is junk. Your navy is once again sitting on the ocean bottom.

A toll booth is your only option and you hope the other guy lacks any dimes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (sZI8v)

Mimes on rafts, chained together, from one side of the strait to the other.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (S/Y4j)

24
OT, but cheery. Mr. Varus arrived at Schloss Hadrian yesterday afternoon and has settled in amazingly well, accepting me and the situation immediately.

He looks to be a big, placid, well-built fellow who began flirting with the house girls almost immediately. Dumb boys are much easier to live with than sneaky girls.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (QnmlO)

25 I've always advocated that members of Congress desiring to improve their image and be taken more seriously to do all press conferences and speeches from the podium while wearing an oversized brightly colored foam rubber cowboy hat.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (lIgBp)

26 I tend to think of prominent demonrats as dog turds walking around on little stick-figure legs, actually.

waving their little stick arms and venting a waft of, well, ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (alnxS)

27 Much talk this morning about Iran’s announcement that they will close the Strait of Hormuz.
Fun fact - you know who gets hurt most by closing that strait? China - that’s the source for a lot of their oil. Trump will actually be doing Xi a huge favor by blasting the Iranians even more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (EVFZ5)

28 Grok @grok

A Strait of Hormuz closure would severely disrupt the global economy, halting 20% of oil and LNG trade, spiking prices to $100-$350 per barrel, and triggering inflation, especially in Asia (e.g., China, 50% oil reliance). The U.S., with only 2% of its oil from the Strait, faces milder impacts but would still see higher energy costs and inflation from global price surges. Global instability would hit harder than U.S. effects, due to diversified U.S. energy sources. Data varies; some exaggerate U.S. impacts, but evidence suggests resilience.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (P5BPp)

29 Provenance of the Strait of Hormuz at the NY Post.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (DNJiU)

30 Is there a mime buster munition?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (je3ji)

31 Closing the strait has been and always will be a hostage taking terror tactic.

Think of Sheriff Bart taking himself hostage except Iran actually believes their BS.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (sZI8v)

32 Anna they can send out suicide boats , send missiles to any ship. They have sunk tankers to help close it before

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (+qU29)

33 How are things ? Has it calmed down any ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (VE6XX)
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Not sure what you mean. We're moving along with our lives here. Yes, we have Homefront Command limitations on workplaces and gatherings. Yes, 1000s of people's homes have been destroyed.

But overall, the country remains strong and is in good spirits.

Except for the leftists, of course, and their cranky media mouthpieces. Sound familiar?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (NC42u)

34 Hank Johnson was a ‘judge’. Think about that.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (jgmnb)

35 A closed straits sounds to me like a European or Arab problem. Let them figure it out..

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at June 22, 2025 12:21 PM (prodC)

36 Hank Johnson (Criminal) got 229,290 votes to Eugene Yu's (R) 74,071 votes in the last election in the 4th district of Georgia. 75.6% to 24.4%.

That means there are 229,290 low IQ and really stupid people living in the 4th district of Georgia.

Moochers and Looters.

Posted by: The Truth at June 22, 2025 12:21 PM (R/m4+)

37
Might see US Navy intervention here.

________

Send invoices to the EU for pulling their bacon out of the fire. Again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 12:21 PM (QnmlO)

38 Hank missed his calling as a R&B man.
Much more security with a government job.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:21 PM (DNJiU)

39 But overall, the country remains strong and is in good spirits.

Except for the leftists, of course, and their cranky media mouthpieces. Sound familiar?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (NC42u)

Good news except for the leftists

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:22 PM (VE6XX)

40 I saw Mimes On Rafts at the Hampton Roads Bay Days Festival in '13. Kinda gay

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 12:22 PM (lIgBp)

41
Imagine Massie being POTUS.
Never, ever elect a libertarian.
Please primary this fool.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2025 12:22 PM (NpAcC)

42 30 Is there a mime buster munition?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (je3ji)


Quoi?

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at June 22, 2025 12:22 PM (PiwSw)

43 As Anna said, they don't have naval or air capability, plus they've been sending their diminishing stock of missiles in a different direction. That leaves only artillery, and as Skip says, the Navy will have a say in this.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 12:22 PM (NcvvS)

44 Then and now:

https://tinyurl.com/3eayfbxr

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:22 PM (NC42u)

45 Do we have an LHA or an LHD in the IO AO?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:23 PM (sZI8v)

46 Dear Iran

How will close the strait? Your air force is junk. Your navy is once again sitting on the ocean bottom.

A toll booth is your only option and you hope the other guy lacks any dimes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (sZI8v)

Mimes on rafts, chained together, from one side of the strait to the other.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


Making the "stuck in boxes" routine?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2025 12:23 PM (5WDkb)

47 Old McDonald had a farm eieio.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:23 PM (je3ji)

48 Is there a mime buster munition?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (je3ji)

I don't think so. They might have to convert a couple minesweepers to mimesweepers.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 12:24 PM (S/Y4j)

49 Operation Mime Sweep

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:24 PM (sZI8v)

50 Turn it up to 11, Hank!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:24 PM (63Dwl)

51 In their brains most liberals truly think they are like the French resistance during WWII fighting against the evil nazi Trump regime.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 12:24 PM (e5NfL)

52 U.S. Senator John Fetterman@SenFettermanPA
Dems will ding a fellow Dem for … a bottle of water.*
It’s just weird, judgmental and straight-up unlikable.
Maybe my party should be less neurotic, quit the virtue signaling, and be normal.

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Yeah, good luck with that.

*Reference to the criticism His Holiness Newsom received for using a single use water bottle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:24 PM (L/fGl)

53 ‘Our boys trained to fly them’.

Well,boys and tomboys.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 12:25 PM (jgmnb)

54
So Trump worked with Israel to obliterate the nuclear program of a Jew-hating death cult. How Nazi can you get??

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 12:25 PM (QnmlO)

55 There is nothing on Fox News about it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (ZmEVT)

56 49 Operation Mime Sweep
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:24 PM (sZI8v)

A Mime is a terrible thing to waste

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (VE6XX)

57 Mr. Johnson got into politics because the rest of the community wanted their village idiot out of their hair.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (7xrfc)

58 Turn it up to 11, Hank!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

And do Purple Haze!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (L/fGl)

59 One of the vessels Trump sent was a mine sweeper.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (DNJiU)

60 New game for Windows 11 - Mime Sweeper

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (sZI8v)

61 55 There is nothing on Fox News about it.
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Here's why that's a good thing.

Posted by: NPR at June 22, 2025 12:26 PM (lIgBp)

62
A Strait of Hormuz closure would severely disrupt the global economy, halting 20% of oil and LNG trade, spiking prices to $100-$350 per barrel, and triggering inflation, especially in Asia (e.g., China, 50% oil reliance). The U.S., with only 2% of its oil from the Strait, faces milder impacts but would still see higher energy costs and inflation from global price surges. Global instability would hit harder than U.S. effects, due to diversified U.S. energy sources. Data varies; some exaggerate U.S. impacts, but evidence suggests resilience.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:20 PM (P5BPp)

Oil is fungible so it would hit us - indirectly. But one side effect of this would be for TX oil fields to dramatically increase the rig count.

That being said, I must ask - close the Strait of Hormuz with WHAT?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (vm8sq)

63 I hadn’t watched the Sunday morning shows in years but I took a look today. First observation: the hosts are blithering idiots. Jonathan Karl is a puffy-faced effete nothing… Kristen Welker is stupid and over dramatic…. Margaret Brennan is a bitch with no insight…. I could go on. None of these people comes close to the skill and basic intelligence that Tim Russert had… or David Brinkley back in the day. All singularly unimpressive

Thomas Massie was on making incoherent statements about the war powers act and playing footsie with Rho Khanna. Mark Kelly whined about congressional prerogatives and came off as stupid. Just an overall pathetic display of unseriousness. I think it’ll be another 15 years before I watch again

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (YobFY)

64 Couldn't they napalm the ports oil storage and refineries?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (je3ji)

65 And Jackson is a Supreme Court Judge

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (+qU29)

66
One of the vessels Trump sent was a mine sweeper.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others

________

The (*flips pages on clipboard*) USS Caine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (QnmlO)

67 A closed straits sounds to me like a European or Arab problem. Let them figure it out..
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It's not even really a problem for Europe, since they can just buy more from Russia.

Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (Dnobf)

68 Iranian Parliament has just ORDERED "

Amazon prime? Wayfair? Home Shopping Network?

Funny, that is.

Posted by: Man at June 22, 2025 12:28 PM (tubbA)

69 Hey, Biden's Dog? I meant to ask you this and forgive me if it came up already: Does Israel have a homeowner insurance policy that covers missile strikes?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 12:28 PM (7xrfc)

70
Hey, Wolfus! I answered your question in the Pixy thread. Yes, you can hate-watch The View on demand. They post their shows on YouTube.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2025 12:28 PM (CmrHb)

71 Do they have anyvody who can do stuff?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:29 PM (je3ji)

72 The Left has become a full time death cult. They hate themselves, they hate their country, they hate their culture, and they hate God as well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:29 PM (EVFZ5)

73 Hank Johnson, like the late Sheila Jackson Lee, will be imbecilic the whole time, but their constituencies will very cheerfully reelect them as much as they want.

Mr. Johnson will probably have that seat until his dying breath.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 12:29 PM (vm8sq)

74 That being said, I must ask - close the Strait of Hormuz with WHAT?
Posted by: Cow Demon



As said above, "mimes on rafts".

Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2025 12:29 PM (5WDkb)

75 Amazon prime? Wayfair? Home Shopping Network?

###

Temu.

Posted by: Oops at June 22, 2025 12:29 PM (lIgBp)

76 So Iran erected a toll booth at the mouth of the strait?

Posted by: Anna Puma

Xi not be happy. How much disruption will it take before this starts seriously impacting China's economy? I think FAFO act II will involve some serious damage to Iran's petroleum infrastructure.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:29 PM (F31MH)

77 Orange Buoys.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:30 PM (je3ji)

78 Temu?

Where they ordered their missiles

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:30 PM (sZI8v)

79 Mimes on rafts, chained together, from one side of the strait to the other.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Reminds me of that scene in The Sand Pebbles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:30 PM (L/fGl)

80 That means there are 229,290 low IQ and really stupid people living in the 4th district of Georgia.

Or they had Dominion machines and/or a toilet flushing.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:30 PM (QZThv)

81 Hank Johnson, like the late Sheila Jackson Lee, will be imbecilic the whole time, but their constituencies will very cheerfully reelect them as much as they want.

Did 2020 not happen in your dimension?

All election results are suspect now, especially when Democrats win.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (QZThv)

82 A log chain barrier might work if no one blows it up during construction.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (sZI8v)

83 #BREAKING: Iran has announced that it will pursue legal action against the United States attacks.

We have already requested that Judge James Boasberg hear the case.

Posted by: Iran! at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (xTIDn)

84 It's not even really a problem for Europe, since they can just buy more from Russia.
Posted by: Methos
-----

Italy is working on a deal with N. Africa.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (DNJiU)

85 I can’t help but chuckle at that old Guam will tip over video. How that admiral kept a straight face I’ll never know

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (YobFY)

86 Too much inbreeding in Kentucky. That's why Massie has an affinity with Mooselims.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (wBaIH)

87 I have it on good authority that petroleum infrastructure is flamable.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (je3ji)

88 86 Too much inbreeding in Kentucky. That's why Massie has an affinity with Mooselims.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2025 12:31 PM (wBaIH)

Whatever it is he has to go

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)

89 Orange Buoys.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:30 PM (je3ji)

Those aren’t buoys! — Seinfeld Raquel Welch joke punchline that even priests find humorous

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:32 PM (YobFY)

90 It sure seems the Demoncrats hate Donald Trump infinitely more than they care about the U.S. or any of its residents.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (w7imp)

91 #BREAKING: Iran has announced that it will pursue legal action against the United States attacks.

So I'm assuming the venue will be Small Claims Court?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (F31MH)

92 Hey, Biden's Dog? I meant to ask you this and forgive me if it came up already: Does Israel have a homeowner insurance policy that covers missile strikes?
Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 12:28 PM (7xrfc)


Say...wasn't that Mr Mayhem from Allstate walking down Ben Yahuda Street?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (W/lyH)

93 Reminds me of that scene in The Sand Pebbles." Huh. I don't remember Marceau in the cast...

Posted by: Man at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (tubbA)

94 Does Iran have trees? They may need the wood for drones after that carbon fiber factory blew up.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (je3ji)

95 Every once in awhile check in on the likes of the Communist News Network or Marxists News National Broadcast Company just to watch the hair on fire

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (+qU29)

96 Yes, you can hate-watch The View on demand.

-
Bill Maher Tells Democrats to "Do Something" About "The View"

-
Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (L/fGl)

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (PiwSw)

98 87 I have it on good authority that petroleum infrastructure is flamable.
Posted by: Boss Moss

But you can't melt steel with fire.

Posted by: Rosie at June 22, 2025 12:34 PM (lIgBp)

99 In their brains most liberals truly think they are like the French resistance during WWII fighting against the evil nazi Trump regime.


They literally think that they are fighting a fascist government.

Of course, if the government was actually fascist, they would have been all rounded up already.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2025 12:34 PM (xTIDn)

100
I kinda wonder just how Iran means to enforce closing the Strait of Hormuz, or any other body of water?

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 22, 2025 12:34 PM (hKoQL)

101 HYnk Johnson was formerly my congressman until I moved several years now. Now I have Dem Gun-Grabbin Lucy McBath whose life mission is to take away rural whites guns because her thug son got shot by one (probably deservedly IMO)many years ago. As vile, shallow and ignorant as she is it it still a couple steps up from Hank Johnson. Think about that.

Posted by: Ripley at June 22, 2025 12:34 PM (YTqn4)

102 Will the U.S. Supreme court ever address the issue of whether an individual accused of a federal felony ( or 34 felonies ) is entitled to a trial in a federal court?

Posted by: Fenderbender at June 22, 2025 12:34 PM (1FEc1)

103 China's skill with heavy equipment building islands could be reversed and straighten out that strait.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:34 PM (DNJiU)

104 They literally think that they are fighting a fascist government.

The left is built on projection. You know all of the things they're doing or planning just by what they accuse others of.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:35 PM (QZThv)

105 Mimes on rafts, chained together, from one side of the strait to the other.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


Making the "stuck in boxes" routine?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2025 12:23 PM (5WDkb)
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You should see them do "walking against the wind!"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2025 12:36 PM (XZ5S6)

106 A couple days I posted this 𝕏 post that depicts a theoretical B-2 strike on Fordow using a RTS simulation game: *click on the pic*

https://tinyurl.com/4babcuzc

The guy who did this almost had it down pat. He just needed a couple more B-2's and the fighter screen.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 12:36 PM (Q4IgG)

107 2 days ago the IDF sank the Iranian intelligence gathering ship that among other things, had been helping the Houthi target their missiles.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:36 PM (EVFZ5)

108 Mitch McConnell

Honestly, I had completely forgotten about you. Have they frozen your head yet? Say hi to Walt for me.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:36 PM (F31MH)

109 Think having is expensive?
Try not having one.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (lIgBp)

110
Mr. Johnson got into politics because the rest of the community wanted their village idiot out of their hair.
Posted by: NR Pax


When it comes to elected officials in this country, at no matter what level, our "oppressed and neglected minorities" brothers and sisters are not sending their best. That goes double for why-pee-poh.

The common thread that binds them all is "activism", especially "community activism". Find a way to get on the take, get elected to an office, and then promote the hell out of others going on the take in order to boost their chances to be re-elected because you are the bringer of that sweet, sweet gubmint cash and benefits.

You aren't voting your way out of what voting your way into has delivered under those circumstances.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (h6xfX)

111 Why "Straights of Hormuz"? What about us rainbow people?

Posted by: The Great Poof at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (G5+As)

112 Dem voters don't care about competence, so you shouldn't expect to see it in their elected representatives.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (t0Rmr)

113 Think having a navy is expensive?
Try not having one.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (lIgBp)

114 New game for Windows 11 - Mime Sweeper
Posted by: Anna Puma

I'd think a fire hose would do it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (L/fGl)

115 I kinda wonder just how Iran means to enforce closing the Strait of Hormuz, or any other body of water?

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA

With the same empty threats they issued a few days ago about something that was going to shock the world?

All the have is random acts of terrorism against unarmed civilians going about their business.

Posted by: Ripley at June 22, 2025 12:38 PM (YTqn4)

116 I kinda wonder just how Iran means to enforce closing the Strait of Hormuz, or any other body of water?
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA

The 12th Imam is going to part the waters.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:38 PM (F31MH)

117 Why "Straights of Hormuz"? What about us rainbow people?
Posted by: The Great Poof at June 22, 2025 12:37 PM (G5+As)
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Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boatride.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2025 12:38 PM (XZ5S6)

118 Dem voters don't care about competence, so you shouldn't expect to see it in their elected representatives.

Johnson seems too incompetent to even grift, which is rare among Democrats.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:38 PM (QZThv)

119 Trump.

Old and busted: TACO

New and cool: Big Enchilada

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (L/fGl)

120 Iran’s potential strategy to close the Strait of Hormuz, a critical global oil chokepoint, involves leveraging its geographic and military advantages, though no official plan has been publicly detailed and the final decision rests with Iran’s Supreme National Security Council. Based on recent statements and historical tactics, Iran could employ the following methods to disrupt or block shipping through the Strait:

Naval Operations and Blockades...
Anti-Ship Missiles and Shore-Based Batteries...
Mines and Sabotage...
Electronic Interference...
Control of Strategic Islands...

Full Grok: https://bit.ly/3TzPukd

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (P5BPp)

121 Think having a navy is expensive?
Try not having one.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty



Underwater navy is extremely expensive.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (5WDkb)

122 119 Trump.

Old and busted: TACO

New and cool: Big Enchilada
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (L/fGl

I'm expecting Emperor Ming.

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (VE6XX)

123 Thx MisHum. I got a picture of a floating toll booth in the Strait of Hormuz like the toll booth in the desert in Blazing Saddles. "Anybody got a shitload of dimes?"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:40 PM (IG2sK)

124
One of the vessels Trump sent was a mine sweeper.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others
________
The (*flips pages on clipboard*) USS Caine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


I hope they have enough strawberries.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:40 PM (63Dwl)

125
Trump will actually be doing Xi a huge favor by blasting the Iranians even more.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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Grrr. You know Xi is counting on America once again to save his ass by doing the right thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2025 12:40 PM (CmrHb)

126 I'm ambivalent about the Straits of Hormuz. Now, take the Kill Van Kull, that's a scenic waterway.

Posted by: Cappy Dick at June 22, 2025 12:41 PM (G5+As)

127 I'm expecting Emperor Ming.
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (VE6XX)


Charles Middleton >>> Max von Sydow

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 12:41 PM (PiwSw)

128 There is also the Biden effect on deep blue districts.

Biden was selected because he isn't mentally capable of leaving the uniparty. Harris is the same.

Overall, if you are a leftist powerbroker you want figureheads that are easy to control in office. So why are so many Dem officeholder lazy idiots? Because that is what the people that select Dem officeholders want.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

129 >>I kinda wonder just how Iran means to enforce closing the Strait of Hormuz, or any other body of water?

I flew out of Masriah, Oman during Operation Earnest Will in 1987. The Iranians were flapping their yaps about the Strait of Hormuz back then, too, but did pretty much nothing. This will be more of the same.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 22, 2025 12:41 PM (Y1sOo)

130 Educated Blacks live in neighborhoods with other educated people. The areas that vote in people like Sheila and Hank vote to get whitey.
As long as people are paid not to work it will remain that way.\

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:41 PM (DNJiU)

131 Must be something in the water in Kentucky. Thats why I drink bottled water

Posted by: doug at June 22, 2025 12:42 PM (Hy+R4)

132 Did the UAE ever build that pipeline to bypass the Strait of Hormuz?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 12:42 PM (ZmEVT)

133 What about the Bob Al mindeb?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 12:42 PM (je3ji)

134 That wasn't a sarc tag that was ipad doing combat with me.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:42 PM (DNJiU)

135 I ran across a post of Facebook discussing the EU and the left trying to force European censorship rules on the US.

The general leftist view on it was "Better Europeans censor us then Trump"

It never seemed to occur to them that no political censorship would be a much better goal, nor that Trump has shown no interest in any form of censorship.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:43 PM (t0Rmr)

136 I said this when I saw Guam Johnson, I have zero ability to play a musical instrument but I could play better than him

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:43 PM (IG2sK)

137 Grrr. You know Xi is counting on America once again to save his ass by doing the right thing.

I don't think Iran would block their own ships in any theoretical blockade. So Xi's fine either way. And it's still unlikely they have anything to cause a blockade with. If they have any shore-to-ship missiles the launcher's gonna be vaporized minutes after showing itself.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:43 PM (QZThv)

138 So I'm assuming the venue will be Small Claims Court?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (F31MH)

They’re going to find a Hawaiian judge who will order Trump to reverse the flow of time and un-drop those bombs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:44 PM (EVFZ5)

139 The only reasonable conclusion one can draw from the citizens of GA electing an absolute joke moron like Johnson to Congress is that marrying your cousin is still legal in that state.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (Ovc06)

140
I'm surprised Hillary hasn't scrambled to get in front of a camera. If she wants historians to praise her as SecState, the most significant political office she ever managed to hold, she must be jealous af of Rubio and furious that she had to serve Obama's idiotic Iran policy. So funny, that woman was subverted over and over by Democrat men.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (CmrHb)

141 Of course the following was written before last night's Iran strike. Rumor has it that Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) is now waving an "I Stand With Iran" banner.

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Bomb his ass too

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (pI9a0)

142 The general leftist view on it was "Better Europeans censor us then Trump"

It never seemed to occur to them that no political censorship would be a much better goal, nor that Trump has shown no interest in any form of censorship.


The European media insists that anyone to the right of Stalin is a real literal Nazi. You see it all the time with AfD in Germany, who are a completely average center-left European party, but they want to enforce the borders so they're Literally Hitler.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (QZThv)

143 If the rest of the globe is hit much harder than the US maybe they need to step up. China needs to have a sit down with Iran.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (VofaG)

144 Underwater navy is extremely expensive."

I thought that most of Iran's Navy was already underwater.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (a1415)

145 Underwater navy is extremely expensive.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (5WDkb)
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Especially if your ships aren't designed for it.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:46 PM (DNJiU)

146 138 So I'm assuming the venue will be Small Claims Court?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM

Don't make me come down there.

Posted by: Judge Judy at June 22, 2025 12:47 PM (lIgBp)

147 With the same empty threats they issued a few days ago about something that was going to shock the world?"

They're going to hold their breath for a really, really long time.
That'll show us.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 12:47 PM (tubbA)

148 The only reasonable conclusion one can draw from the citizens of GA electing an absolute joke moron like Johnson to Congress is that marrying your cousin is still legal in that state.

So you also believe Biden's 81 million votes were 100% legit?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:47 PM (QZThv)

149 So I'm assuming the venue will be Small Claims Court?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:33 PM (F31MH)

They’re going to find a Hawaiian judge who will order Trump to reverse the flow of time and un-drop those bombs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:44 PM (EVFZ5)

They should pray we don't reverse the flow of time and bomb them past the stone age and well into the Jurassic period.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 12:47 PM (snZF9)

150 145 Underwater navy is extremely expensive.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2025 12:39 PM (5WDkb)
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Especially if your ships aren't designed for it.


scurrilous lies spread by imperialist running dogs

Posted by: moskva, pride of the black sea fleet at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (edU/H)

151 @126 I see the Kill Van Kull and raise you the Gowanus Canal

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (IG2sK)

152 Gerrymandering is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (VofaG)

153 Remember, every ship is capable of submerging....

Once.

Submarines are more talented, and can do it often.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (a1415)

154 Yes, you can hate-watch The View on demand.

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Bill Maher Tells Democrats to "Do Something" About "The View"

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Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Ma

Can't say I want Whoopi to come back as a giant lizard.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (w7imp)

155 Overall, if you are a leftist powerbroker you want figureheads that are easy to control in office. So why are so many Dem officeholder lazy idiots? Because that is what the people that select Dem officeholders want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

And by doing that, they’ve schemed themselves into the same dead end that all such schemers get to. When a true national crisis hits, the people demand leadership, and they’ve guaranteed that there’s not a single true leader left on their side. (The communists had the same problem, all corrupt bureaucracies do)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (EVFZ5)

156 Think how bad the GOP'er that lost to Johnson is?

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (Ef4Ak)

157 Looking to the future.

IDF Takes Out IRGC Commander Involved in October 7 As Khamenei Does Succession Planning

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (L/fGl)

158 was

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (Ef4Ak)

159 Iran made a big mistake by making public their efforts (starting three days ago) to get Saudi Arabia, Oman, and Qatar to try and run interference with the US (and put pressure on the US to secure a ceasefire with Israel).

Their bargaining chip was "more flexibility on the Iranian Nuclear program."

This was supposed to dangle a carrot in front of the more "sane" ME countries to form an informal coalition against the US.

NOW, however....that nuclear program is dust....and Iran is being forced to lie that it was moved previously (it wasn't)...because their bargaining chip with SA, Oman and Qatar depends on it still existing. It's why Russia is trying to give credence to the whole issue. Russia is running out of friends.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (dIske)

160 So you also believe Biden's 81 million votes were 100% legit?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:47 PM (QZThv)

Look at AOCs 2020 vote totals compared to every other election. The Dems had a plan .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (VofaG)

161 On behalf of President Boasberg I apologize to the Iranian regime, their honorable military leaders, and to engineers and physicists worldwide who feel saddened by these attacks on their colleagues.

Posted by: Secretary of State Boasberg at June 22, 2025 12:50 PM (zF/S9)

162 IDF Takes Out IRGC Commander Involved in October 7 As Khamenei Does Succession Planning
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (L/fGl)

At this point succession planning is starting to bring the janitor up to speed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:51 PM (bss/y)

163 Hank Johnson is brain damaged.
No one can be as dumb as he is.

Oh, wait. People voted for him.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 12:51 PM (iGK7y)

164 Are we 100% certain that Johnson hasn't been performing a sort of meta Andy Kaufman kinda gag? Can he really be as ridiculous as he seems?

Posted by: JoshO at June 22, 2025 12:51 PM (xL2KH)

165 Kentucky has been a huge pain in the ass. Sorry to all our moron Kentuckians.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:51 PM (VofaG)

166 161-What did Defense Secretary Boasberg say?

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 12:52 PM (Ef4Ak)

167 "At this point succession planning is starting to bring the janitor up to speed."


Nope, that's my vacation week

Posted by: The Janitor at June 22, 2025 12:52 PM (a1415)

168 So you also believe Biden's 81 million votes were 100% legit?

90% turnout in WI. Totally believable.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

169 Two takes on Iran's navy -

https://tinyurl.com/262dkax4

https://tinyurl.com/yeyuywdr

I expect the coastal subs would be their principal sea mine placement option.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 12:52 PM (aBgBM)

170 Think how bad the GOP'er that lost to Johnson is?
Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (Ef4Ak)

I don’t think so. Ronald Reagan in his prime couldn’t win that district. The voters there are stupid and/or the vote there is rigged

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (nrfI8)

171 Hank, Hank, I know your big on Hendrix but avoid the Star Spangled Banner. That one's fascist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (L/fGl)

172 Since the Iranian military leadetship has been decimated, there is an opportunity for the Vindman twins to take over the anti-Trump battle.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (zF/S9)

173 So you also believe Biden's 81 million votes were 100% legit?

90% turnout in WI. Totally believable.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

Over 90% nationwide.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (VofaG)

174 156 Think how bad the GOP'er that lost to Johnson is?
Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 12:49 PM (Ef4Ak)

It's actually not that. Think how stupid Hank Johnson's district is to vote for him.

A Fungo Bat would win in his district if it had a D after it.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (iGK7y)

175 Oh, wait. People voted for him.

Atlanta flushed a toilet. No Democrat election results are legit.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (QZThv)

176 Hey, Biden's Dog? I meant to ask you this and forgive me if it came up already: Does Israel have a homeowner insurance policy that covers missile strikes?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 12:28 PM (7xrfc)
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Private insurance companies normally exclude force majeure. Government itself is supposed to cover it - but I wouldn't want to rely on that.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (NC42u)

177 That scene about Black legislators in "The Birth of a Nation" was supposed to be a documentary, not a how-to manual.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (4mmkh)

178 Terror attack (?) at Michigan church, per JFeed.

Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (qUkBO)

179 171 Hank, Hank, I know your big on Hendrix but avoid the Star Spangled Banner. That one's fascist.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (L/fGl)


Definitely White Christian Nationalist.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (PiwSw)

180 Remember, every ship is capable of submerging....

Once.

Submarines are more talented, and can do it often.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (a1415)
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As I told me 'ol man once (a 20 year submariner) every time they submerged, they were doing half the enemy's job for them.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (W/lyH)

181 "Straights Of Whoremuz" didn't last long in it's Off-Broadway debut. Panned for poor set design and mediocre talent, audiences were mostly disappointed that the costumes weren't "fabulous."

Posted by: Snooty Theatre Critic at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (lIgBp)

182 90% turnout in WI. Totally believable.

They put down their beer and brats? Definitely believable.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (QZThv)

183 Massie’s act of pretending to be “conservative” but opposing everything Trump does has gotten real old. Time for him to get the Justin Amash treatment.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (EVFZ5)

184 Iran started the trouble a long time ago, not Trump.

Don't start nuthin', won't be nuthin'.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:54 PM (i0F8b)

185 Are we 100% certain that Johnson hasn't been performing a sort of meta Andy Kaufman kinda gag? Can he really be as ridiculous as he seems?
Posted by: JoshO at June 22, 2025 12:51 PM (xL2KH)


IIRC, he was being treated for some sort of condition and the drugs used caused confusion. Now, there's no reason for him to have stepped down from Congress during that time... oh, no sir...

So, he was temporarily more stupid than normal but still fit to make decisions affecting the country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (ExV1e)

186 Right Angle News Network
@Rightanglenews
BREAKING - A shooting has been reported at a church in Wayne, Michigan, where a suspect drove a truck into the building and opened fire, injuring multiple people before being shot and killed by a security guard.

https://tinyurl.com/mryfmmz6

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (NpAcC)

187 Waiting for District Judge Boesberg to write an injunction that the US must rebuild the Iranian Nuclear Program.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (Ovc06)

188 All first reports are wrong, but I hope not

@Mrgunsngear 11m
Active shooter situation earlier today Crosspoint Community Church in Wayne, Michigan.

Initial reports say he drove a truck through the side of the church then opened fire. The killer was reportedly shot by a member of the church...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (mlg/3)

189 "Straights Of Whoremuz" didn't last long in it's Off-Broadway debut.

Was that the Sandra Fluke biographical play?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (QZThv)

190 We in the Defense Department stand ready to assist Iran's recovery and reconstruction as ordered by President Boasberg!

Posted by: Defense Secretary Boasberg at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (zF/S9)

191 Let's see,

My ship was 10,000 yards away when the Beirut bombing took place.

We were somewhere near Iran on the night that the hostage release was announced.

And played around during the last Tanker War.

I guess I'm too old to play in this one.

But I would, if given a chance.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 12:56 PM (a1415)

192 Right Angle News Network
@Rightanglenews
BREAKING - A shooting has been reported at a church in Wayne, Michigan, where a suspect drove a truck into the building and opened fire, injuring multiple people before being shot and killed by a security guard.

https://tinyurl.com/mryfmmz6
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (NpAcC)
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It begins.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:56 PM (NC42u)

193 I don’t think so. Ronald Reagan in his prime couldn’t win that district. The voters there are stupid and/or the vote there is rigged
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM (nrfI

It’s a heavy majority black district. ‘Nuff said.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (EVFZ5)

194 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 12:56 PM (a1415)

Thank you.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (VofaG)

195 190-thank you

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (Ef4Ak)

196 In their brains most liberals truly think they are like the French resistance during WWII fighting against the evil nazi Trump regime.

Their lives have little meaning so they bring out their shame-encrusted pink pussy hats, scream "RESIST!" and for a fleeting moment think that they are the heroes we have been waiting for.

I'd pity them but I'd rather have them far away from me.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (7xrfc)

197 So you also believe Biden's 81 million votes were 100% legit?

90% turnout in WI. Totally believable.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

Over 90% nationwide.


Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:53 PM

The 2020 United States presidential election had a voter turnout of approximately 66.7% to 66.8% of the eligible voting population, marking the highest turnout rate of the 21st century. This translates to roughly 158.4 to 159.7 million votes cast, based on various estimates.

In the 2020 presidential election, Wisconsin had a voter turnout of approximately 73% of its voting-age population, with nearly 3.3 million votes cast (3,298,041 to 3,308,805 according to different sources). This represented about 85% of registered voters.

Grok: https://bit.ly/3GdHTER

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (P5BPp)

198

10 Scum sucking Siberian snow pimps?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 12:14 PM (W/lyH)

I like that
I hope to remember to use it in a sentence

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian i at June 22, 2025 12:58 PM (QXQ4l)

199 BREAKING - A shooting has been reported at a church in Wayne, Michigan, where a suspect drove a truck into the building and opened fire, injuring multiple people before being shot and killed by a security guard.

https://tinyurl.com/mryfmmz6
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2025 12:55 PM (NpAcC)

My dad is a pastor and when growing up there was zero discussion of needing security guards at the church. That thought didn’t even enter the mind…. Now every week at church I see multiple policemen in the lobby…. Different world and I’m not that old (though in the range of 29)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:58 PM (nrfI8)

200 In their brains most liberals truly think they are like the French resistance during WWII fighting against the evil nazi Trump regime.. ----

Which is apropos since the vast majority of the resistance were commies.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:58 PM (VofaG)

201 that marrying your cousin is still legal in that state."

Hold my beeeeeer

Posted by: Country Roads, Take me Home, to the place... at June 22, 2025 12:59 PM (tubbA)

202 It's a one and done action by Trump. When Trump doesn't send troops, or some stupid nation-building nonsense, the usual suspects will claim he did nothing further because of their pressure.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:59 PM (i0F8b)

203 The cat Snowflake must have hocked up a hairball downstairs. Never saw that before. She's been licking and cleaning herself constantly since being brought back.

I combed her and the dog. There's housecleaning going on and that is step 1. Snowflake really enjoyed being combed.

I am still reading and watching about Iran. That was so sweet.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 22, 2025 01:00 PM (jvJvP)

204 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:58 PM (nrfI

Well the Bible has prophesied just that. It's been the beginning of the beginning for a while now.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:00 PM (VofaG)

205 marrying your cousin is still legal in that state.

Fun fact: marrying your cousin is legal in more blue states than red.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 01:00 PM (QZThv)

206 Post-strike photos of Fordow, showing apparent MOP penetration holes, in this from TWZ

https://tinyurl.com/y56wjub8

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 01:01 PM (aBgBM)

207 What if your cousin us really hot?

Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 01:01 PM (Ef4Ak)

208 Are we 100% certain that Johnson hasn't been performing a sort of meta Andy Kaufman kinda gag?
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By the way, if any of you like Andy Kaufman but HAVEN'T seen his work as a wrestling "heel", you're missing out! Andy completely understood the mindgames needed to write a great wrestling character and he nailed it and made it last for months on end.

Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 01:02 PM (TN0g+)

209 Private insurance companies normally exclude force majeure. Government itself is supposed to cover it - but I wouldn't want to rely on that.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey


Gotcha. And this being my sense of humor, I'm imagining an Israeli real estate agent extolling the virtues of a home by how few times it had been hit by a missile.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 01:02 PM (7xrfc)

210 "marrying your cousin is still legal in that state."

That's what Mom said.


Posted by: Hank Johnson at June 22, 2025 01:02 PM (iGK7y)

211 Submarines are more talented, and can do it often.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 12:48 PM (a1415)
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Yes, but tell us how

Posted by: The Chinese at June 22, 2025 01:03 PM (pIfcn)

212 It looks as though Iran is going to insist on some further trouble with the straits of Hormuz, but it will not end well for them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:03 PM (EVFZ5)

213 What if your cousin us really hot?"

Ah yes - the old joke about "relative humidity"..

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 01:03 PM (tubbA)

214 You cannot hate the media enough:

https://tinyurl.com/y2h3a7nh

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:04 PM (NC42u)

215 Open Carry in my state.

Perhaps I should do that for a bit.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 01:04 PM (iGK7y)

216 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0
The only thing consistent about Little Harry is his hypocrisy.

https://tinyurl.com/3p3bjm63

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2025 01:05 PM (NpAcC)

217 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (P5BPp)

I dispute those figures just based on the population figures of 18 and over , the percentage of registered voters and the total votes. Simple math shows it's 90% plus. The only variable that would change it is the percentage of registered voters. It would have to be somewhere in the range of 85-90% of eligible voters were registered. Normally the percentage is between 70-75%.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:05 PM (VofaG)

218 Just read this again. Trump’s hint that he would "decide in two weeks"

Is my memory off, or didn't he say "within two weeks"?

Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (n4GiU)

219 I think Delaware County in Pa had a %99 turnout in 2020

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)

220 Normally the percentage is between 70-75%."

My old district blew past that, with nearly 120% of the adult population (based on census figures) voted in 2020. It must've been spectacular.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (tubbA)

221 I didn’t believe that TACO acronym applied to the experienced negotiator Donald Trump.
Now he should be nicknamed TUCO, in honor of the famous line: “If you are going to shoot, SHOOT!, don’t talk!”

Posted by: Fenderbender at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (1FEc1)

222 Is my memory off, or didn't he say "within two weeks"?
Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (n4GiU)

He said within or in the next two weeks

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (VE6XX)

223 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (P5BPp)

Sorry ignore my post. I see the percentage you posted was eligible voters. I'm talking 90% registered voters.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (VofaG)

224 No Kings 2.0 Protests Set for July 4 Because the First One Was a Bust

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I thought it was the mostest bestest thing ever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)

225 Iran may try to "close" the Hormuz Strait but I'm not sure they'll be able to cripple commercial traffic through it like they think. There's plenty of TLAM armed ships and submarines lurking in the Arabian Sea.

IIRC there was some sort of action at Bandar Abbas, Iran's chief naval installation near the straits last night, if reports are correct. So perhaps there is already some work being done at degrading any military hardware there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)

226 Church attack by ISIS in Damascus.

Islam is the enemy.

And their useful idiots.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (NC42u)

227 224 No Kings 2.0 Protests Set for July 4 Because the First One Was a Bust

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I thought it was the mostest bestest thing ever!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)

The day after they claimed 12 million participants.. By the end of the week it was down to 4-5 million...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (VE6XX)

228 My Congress critter, a West Point grad and Iraq war vet posted a usual leftist response to the attack. More people than I thought responded against him. A friend who I grew up with is a big leftist and said he trusts the critter but not the rest of Congress. Anyone who trusts a Dem is suicidal at this point

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (IG2sK)

229 They love to chant, "No Nukes! No Nukes!" Right?

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (i0F8b)

230 Donna, thanks.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (n4GiU)

231 Just read this again. Trump’s hint that he would "decide in two weeks"

"Did I say two weeks? Sorry, I meant two days."

Posted by: Meme I Just Saw at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (YNfms)

232 President Richard punch slams phone down.... waits ten seconds and then calls Ayatollah Khamenei back.


No, we are gonna close down the straights of hormuz.

Posted by: President Richard Punch at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (OA79/)

233 He said within or in the next two weeks

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (VE6XX)
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Trump said within.

I commented at the time that it could also mean in 20 minutes after he made his statement.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:11 PM (NC42u)

234 A closed straits sounds to me like a European or Arab problem. Let them figure it out..
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But the horns they blowin' that sound...

Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 01:11 PM (TN0g+)

235 By the way, if any of you like Andy Kaufman but HAVEN'T seen his work as a wrestling "heel", you're missing out! Andy completely understood the mindgames needed to write a great wrestling character and he nailed it and made it last for months on end.
Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 01:02 PM (TN0g+)

Andy was the undisputed Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion of the World and still holds the title!

Posted by: Tony Clifton at June 22, 2025 01:11 PM (R/m4+)

236 https://tinyurl.com/mryut2dd
I think live 2nd day reenactment of Battle of Bunker Hill from 18th Century Horsemanship

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:12 PM (+qU29)

237 Sorry ignore my post. I see the percentage you posted was eligible voters. I'm talking 90% registered voters.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM

I asked that follow-up, too. Grok's answer:

In the 2020 U.S. presidential election, the nationwide turnout of registered voters was approximately 65% to 66.6%, with estimates indicating around 158.4 to 159.7 million votes cast out of roughly 239.2 million registered voters.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 01:12 PM (P5BPp)

238 Hank missed his calling as a R&B man.
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With his mostly peaceful guitar.

Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (TN0g+)

239 She's a genius I tell ya!

Pelosi Raked In Millions Last Year — And Her Portfolio Out-performed Every Large Hedge Fund

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (L/fGl)

240 I want to see a campaign ad from the Repubs, showing the crimes of an illegal, then showing the Senator rushing down to try and bring them back to this country. It's not popular.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (AcTAo)

241 238 Hank missed his calling as a R&B man.
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With his mostly peaceful guitar.
Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (TN0g+)

Maybe next time he can tune it first

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (VE6XX)

242 The first assault ended in a repulse, that's where the video is now.

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (+qU29)

243 >>> Just read this again. Trump’s hint that he would "decide in two weeks"

Is my memory off, or didn't he say "within two weeks"?
Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 01:07 PM (n4GiU)


Yeah, but remember, right before all that JD sent a public message to Trump:

"President, if we go by the book, like Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, hours could seem like days."

Very sneaky.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 22, 2025 01:14 PM (cduTK)

244 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 01:12 PM (P5BPp)

So basically the same percentage of eligible votes and registered voters . Does not compute.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:14 PM (VofaG)

245 Hank missed his calling as a R&B man.
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With his mostly peaceful guitar.
Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 01:13 PM (TN0g+)

Was his guitar gently weeping?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 01:14 PM (w7imp)

246 236 https://tinyurl.com/mryut2dd
I think live 2nd day reenactment of Battle of Bunker Hill from 18th Century Horsemanship
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:12 PM (+qU29)

I see 3 bases of operation in the background.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 01:14 PM (iGK7y)

247 DHS warning for the US:

https://tinyurl.com/yc29krff

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:15 PM (NC42u)

248
Was his guitar gently weeping?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 01:14 PM (w7imp)

My ears were

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:15 PM (VE6XX)

249 English Common Law permits the marriage of first cousins. Hence, the inbreeding of the nobility.

Napoleonic Code forbids it.

New English allowed it. the state that are in the Louisiana Purchase generally do not.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:15 PM (ZmEVT)

250 Wayne, MI church terrorist taken down.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:16 PM (NC42u)

251 The British do assault again

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:16 PM (+qU29)

252 241 238 Hank missed his calling as a R&B man.

It's a disgrace to Stevie Ray and all that have come before him that he's even holding that Strat.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 01:17 PM (iGK7y)

253 Why doesn't AOC pole dance for Iran?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 01:18 PM (w7imp)

254 Lost in the Iran News was the release of the Columbia Hamas student yesterday . A Hawaiian judge said he must be free because OrangeManBad.

Upon his release the “student” said he will continue the fight to free Palestine.

So student visa violations are no longer a thing according to the judge.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:19 PM (/CkK4)

255 Church attack by ISIS in Damascus.

Islam is the enemy.

And their useful idiots.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (NC42u)
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Very bad.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:19 PM (NC42u)

256 254 Lost in the Iran News was the release of the Columbia Hamas student yesterday . A Hawaiian judge said he must be free because OrangeManBad.

Upon his release the “student” said he will continue the fight to free Palestine

He can do that from his Country.. And it's not the US

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:20 PM (VE6XX)

257 Shock Poll: 47% of Dems Demand a Third Party

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The Crazy Wacky Looney Party?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:20 PM (L/fGl)

258 No Kings 2.0 Protests Set for July 4 Because the First One Was a Bust

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I thought it was the mostest bestest thing ever!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Don't we celebrate that every year on July 4? Or am I missing the point of "Independence Day?"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 01:21 PM (IBQGV)

259 Mop penetration holes?

Posted by: Well, umm... at June 22, 2025 01:21 PM (lIgBp)

260 I thought the Columbia Hamas student already graduated and his student visa is expired.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:21 PM (ZmEVT)

261 What if your cousin us really hot?"

Ah yes - the old joke about "relative humidity"..
Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 01:03 PM (tubbA)
***

One of my cousins is drop dead gorgeous.
Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:23 PM (W/lyH)

262 I saw a picture from the church shooting in MI this morning.. People scattering when they hear gunshots . it seems to be a primarily white church..

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:23 PM (VE6XX)

263 First enemy shot at US assets?

https://tinyurl.com/murjnjmj

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:23 PM (NC42u)

264
Thomas Massie was on making incoherent statements about the war powers act and playing footsie with Rho Khanna. Mark Kelly whined about congressional prerogatives and came off as stupid. Just an overall pathetic display of unseriousness. I think it’ll be another 15 years before I watch again
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2025 12:27 PM (YobFY)

Mr. Massie and Mr. Kelly (et al) refuse to understand that we do not have 535 commanders in chief.

I do not want to hear one damn thing about needing a declaration of war to send the military into action either. People who say that very simply do not know what they are talking about. A declaration of war is a tool of DIPLOMACY, not of the military.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:24 PM (vm8sq)

265 I will be celebrating July 4 No Kings day as well
Long live the United States

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:24 PM (+qU29)

266 In the 2020 U.S. presidential election, the nationwide turnout of registered voters was approximately 65% to 66.6%, with estimates indicating around 158.4 to 159.7 million votes cast out of roughly 239.2 million registered voters.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 01:12 PM (P5BPp)

The population of 18 and over is 258 million.

239.2 million / 258 million is 93% .

I don't think we have a 93% voter registration of eligible voters. . Or do we ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:24 PM (VofaG)

267 Mop penetration holes?

Posted by: Well, umm... at June 22, 2025 01:21 PM (lIgBp)
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Cleanup is aisle 5!!!

Massive
Ordinance
Penetrator

I.e., bunker busters.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:25 PM (NC42u)

268 I want to see photos of the AoSHQ trolls gathered at a No Kings demonstration.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 01:25 PM (w7imp)

269 The 2020 (S)election was about ballot harvesting, not voting.

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (iGK7y)

270 Lost in the Iran News was the release of the Columbia Hamas student yesterday . A Hawaiian judge said he must be free because OrangeManBad.

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:20 PM (VE6XX)
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AOC was there to personally greet him and celebrate his victory.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (NC42u)

271 The 2020 United States presidential election had a voter turnout of approximately 66.7% to 66.8% of the eligible voting population, marking the highest turnout rate of the 21st century. This translates to roughly 158.4 to 159.7 million votes cast, based on various estimates.

In the 2020 presidential election, Wisconsin had a voter turnout of approximately 73% of its voting-age population, with nearly 3.3 million votes cast (3,298,041 to 3,308,805 according to different sources). This represented about 85% of registered voters.

Grok: https://bit.ly/3GdHTER
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:57 PM (P5BPp)

Actually, 100% of the electorate turned out and 100% voted for the candidates that are members of the one party with the sole, exclusive right to rule the United States as it, and it alone, sees fit.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (vm8sq)

272 Thunder starting here

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (+qU29)

273 America’s Largest Medical Association Sides With Child Mutilation After SCOTUS Ruling

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As a yute, I saw a book on Nazi doctors. I couldn't believe doctors could do such things.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (L/fGl)

274 255 Church attack by ISIS in Damascus.

Islam is the enemy.

And their useful idiots.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (NC42u)
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Very bad.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:19 PM (NC42u)


I learned all I needed to know about islam during the 72 Olympics.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (jgmnb)

275 Unburdened by what has been...

I predict that "Impeach Trump Now!" won't even TRY to differentiate the 2011 Obama/HRC attacks on Libya* from what Trump has done in Iran. Four legs good, two legs bad. There!

*or WJC's attacks on Serbia & Afghanistan in 1998

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:27 PM (kd60y)

276 Would that be jason crow?

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 01:28 PM (dMwf/)

277 Ask your doctor if mop penetration holes are right for you.

Posted by: The Marketing Department at June 22, 2025 01:29 PM (lIgBp)

278 Did Hamas guy thank AOC with a raping?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 01:29 PM (w7imp)

279 Yes, but tell us how
Posted by: The Chinese at June 22, 2025 01:03 PM (pIfcn)

Worry first about finding a better name for your navy than the People's Liberation Army Navy.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:29 PM (vm8sq)

280 279 Yes, but tell us how
Posted by: The Chinese at June 22, 2025 01:03 PM (pIfcn)

Worry first about finding a better name for your navy than the People's Liberation Army Navy.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:29 PM (vm8sq)
It’s Army Navy because they don’t surf here.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (jgmnb)

281 Video from inside the Wayne MI church. No gore. Also read the comments:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfuzpfd

Going offline for a while. Maybe some exercise in the evening air. l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (NC42u)

282 So basically the same percentage of eligible votes and registered voters . Does not compute.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:14 PM

You're right. Based on this from Grok (below), I completed the math myself and came up with:

Registered turnout: 75.8% to 95.1%
Eligible turnout: 66.2% to 66.8%

In the 2020 U.S. presidential election:

Eligible Voters: Approximately 239.2 million citizens aged 18 and older were eligible to vote (voting-eligible population, or VEP).

Registered Voters: Estimates vary, but sources report around 168 million to 209 million registered voters. The lower estimate (168 million) comes from some analyses, while higher figures (209 million) are cited in others, reflecting differences in data sources or timing.

The discrepancy in registered voter numbers arises from variations in state-level voter registration data and post-election updates. For context, about 158.4 to 159.7 million votes were cast, yielding a turnout of roughly 66.7% of eligible voters and 65% to 66.6% of registered voters.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (P5BPp)

283 Islam is the enemy.

And their useful idiots.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:10 PM (NC42u)
***

My theory of 10%.
90,000 Muslims live in Washington State. The majority in and around Seattle and Tacoma.
10% of them, 9,000, are assholes.
10% of them, 900, really hate America.
10% of them, 90, will take up arms, particularly if they think they can get away with it.
Keep your head on a swivel.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (W/lyH)

284 My hashtag says I'm a wimp. I'll go away now.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 01:33 PM (w7imp)

285 British are coming again

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:34 PM (+qU29)

286 I for one am in full support of the "No Kongs" movement. Someone has to keep our cities and monuments safe from gargantuan gorillas

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 01:34 PM (gKWVE)

287 Keep your head on a swivel.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (W/lyH)
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Watch you 6. Buy more ammo.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:34 PM (NC42u)

288 Has Judges Boasberg and Erdogan ordered Trump to rebuild the Iranian nuclear bomb factory yet?

Posted by: torabora at June 22, 2025 01:35 PM (SV+tM)

289 Thomas Massie (R-KY) is now waving an "I Stand With Iran" banner.

Thomas is right that Congress has the power to declare war, but Trump did not declare war. So many times in the past, the US president has taken action against another country without declaring war, explaining to Congress what he did and why. Otherwise, Reagan (Grenada), Bush (Panama), Clinton (Kosovo), Barky (Libya) would all be guilty.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

290 288 Has Judges Boasberg and Erdogan ordered Trump to rebuild the Iranian nuclear bomb factory yet?

Posted by: torabora at June 22, 2025 01:35 PM (SV+tM)

and supply 72 virgins to each of the victims.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

291 The Americans lost the battle, but the war is just starting

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:37 PM (+qU29)

292 286 I for one am in full support of the "No Kongs" movement. Someone has to keep our cities and monuments safe from gargantuan gorillas

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 01:34 PM (gKWVE)

I prefer "No Mullahs".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

293 OMG! OMG! OMG! Razor throat?!!!

COVID “Razor Throat” Variant Now Found in 15 U.S. States: Here’s What We Know

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (L/fGl)

294 Has Pope Leo apologized to the Turks for the victory at the Battle of Lepanto?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (ZmEVT)

295 David Frum published an article about how Trump was gonna chicken out against the mullahs late yesterday afternoon. Spectacular timing.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (84SEz)

296 You know, I did not even think about the TACO bullshit. Huh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (YUL+W)

297 COVID “Razor Throat” Variant Now Found in 15 U.S. States: Here’s What We Know
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (L/fGl)

You know what I know? That headline writing is a lost art.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:39 PM (vm8sq)

298 Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (W/lyH)

If only 1% of the population is having a shitty day, and on the freeways you drive, every day you pass 100s of different cars, you are almost 100% guaranteed to drive by someone whose in a shitty mood. It's all in the numbers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

299 At least Mike Pence and John Bolton are happy this morning!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (2yoRf)

300 COVID “Razor Throat” Variant Now Found in 15 U.S. States

+++

And Why That's A Good Thing

Posted by: NPR at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (lIgBp)

301 Massive
Ordinance
Penetrator


Yes, I am, how you say...

Posted by: The Paolo at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (84SEz)

302 297 COVID “Razor Throat” Variant Now Found in 15 U.S. States: Here’s What We Know
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (L/fGl)

You know what I know? That headline writing is a lost art.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:39 PM (vm8sq)


Tell the libbies to stop blowing razorbacks.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

303 Did the Sunday press shows discuss Penetration and Hardening til they were spent?

Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (FhXTo)

304 I kike David Mamet, but his friendship with David Frum makes me wonder.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ZmEVT)

305 299 At least Mike Pence and John Bolton are happy this morning!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (2yoRf)

Did the cuddle afterwards?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

306 305 299 At least Mike Pence and John Bolton are happy this morning!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (2yoRf)

Did the cuddle afterwards?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

Did they cuddle afterwards. Damn fingers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

307 > Otherwise, Reagan (Grenada), Bush (Panama), Clinton (Kosovo), Barky (Libya) would all be guilty.
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I saw a post yesterday when the whole "Congress is the party that can declare war" argument surfaced. It pointed out that Obama droned citizens in foreign countries several times and dropped a staggering 20K + bombs on targets/people without congressional approval.

So those bitching and moaning about "being left out of the loop" or whatever can shut all the fuck way up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (Q4IgG)

308 like. just a typo. No slur intended.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (ZmEVT)

309 10% of them, 90, will take up arms, particularly if they think they can get away with it.

And the remaining 89,910 will support them openly or try the argument of "If you only understood why they did it."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (7xrfc)

310 From what I see cpccwayne.org/about-us
this church looks like... a good one. If I was looking for a Church and was Protestant (I'm not) I'd take it seriously.
They have at least one Arab American on staff, I don't know if ex-Muslim or a convert from Near Eastern Christianity.
Anyway, the would be shooter seems only to have injured one person, the hero security guard who sent the shooter to hell where he belongs.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (gKWVE)

311 Video from inside the Wayne MI church. No gore. Also read the comments:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfuzpfd

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Very interesting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (L/fGl)

312 303 Did the Sunday press shows discuss Penetration and Hardening til they were spent?

Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (FhXTo)


I heard Margaret Brennan asked if she can borrow a MOP for a week.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (aBgBM)

313 Saw Sen Jkhn Fetterman is on Trump's side

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (+qU29)

314 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 1h
BREAKING: Shooting reported at church in Wayne, Michigan; reports of multiple victims. Suspect shot and killed. - WXYZ

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 53m
WATCH: People fleeing at Crosspointe Community Church in Wayne, Michigan after shooting.

https://tinyurl.com/5krk3exm
52 seconds

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 17m
WAYNE, MICHIGAN - While several local sources said there were multiple injured:

New information now suggests a security guard was shot in the leg with the shooter killed by a security guard and no other injuries reported, church officials say.

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 1m
Shooter at Wayne, Michigan church run over by church-goer, giving security guard enough time to fatally shoot the suspect. - The Detroit News

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 01:43 PM (2yoRf)

315 313 Saw Sen Jkhn Fetterman is on Trump's side
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (+qU29)

Yes.. But against most everything else...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:43 PM (VE6XX)

316 If only 1% of the population is having a shitty day, and on the freeways you drive, every day you pass 100s of different cars, you are almost 100% guaranteed to drive by someone whose in a shitty mood. It's all in the numbers.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:40 PM (ynpvh)


Yup!
Wrecks are inevitable.
Likewise muzzies responding to Trump's actions.


Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:44 PM (W/lyH)

317 Funny how a brain tumor can make a idiot like Fetterman a genius.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:44 PM (ZmEVT)

318 Did they cuddle afterwards?
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With Donald!

Disclose.tv @disclosetv 2h
JUST IN - Trump: "Great unity in the Republican Party."

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 01:45 PM (2yoRf)

319 317 Funny how a brain tumor can make a idiot like Fetterman a genius.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:44 PM (ZmEVT)

He had a stroke.. His lump had the brain tumor

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:45 PM (VE6XX)

320 Thomas is right that Congress has the power to declare war, but Trump did not declare war. So many times in the past, the US president has taken action against another country without declaring war, explaining to Congress what he did and why. Otherwise, Reagan (Grenada), Bush (Panama), Clinton (Kosovo), Barky (Libya) would all be guilty.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

Mr. Massie does not know what he is talking about. Yes, Congress has the power to declare war. That does NOT mean no military action takes place without it. (Were those who fought back at Pearl Harbor in Contempt of Congress?) War declarations are the abode of diplomats, not the military.

In fact, circa 1980 the idea was floated to declare war against Iran in order to force the country to recognize diplomatic protocols in regards to the embassy. Never mind that they trashed the Vienna Convention of 1961, Article 22, 24 and 45. Why they would have changed their minds in the event of a war declaration is beyond me. Which is probably why it wasn't tried.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:45 PM (vm8sq)

321 308 like. just a typo. No slur intended.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2025 01:42 PM (ZmEVT)

It's short for Enrique in Spanish...
My wife saw a car driven by a Mexican guy with a license plate of "Kike" many years ago...it was his nickname...
Pronounced Key-Que (last syllable like in spanish que).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:45 PM (ynpvh)

322 A toll booth is your only option

The EZ-Pass systems might need lane firmware updates to deal with a transponder going 10 kts.

Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 01:45 PM (FhXTo)

323 Wait, so the guy drove into the church or got run over by a church member, then got shot?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:46 PM (YUL+W)

324 323 Wait, so the guy drove into the church or got run over by a church member, then got shot?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:46 PM (YUL+W)

Seems like it...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:46 PM (VE6XX)

325 It's a disgrace to Stevie Ray and all that have come before him that he's even holding that Strat.

Posted by: jsg

=====

If making horrible noise is your goal, we're here for you.

Except that Knopfler guy playing "Money for Nothing." Not sure how we allowed that to happen. . .

Posted by: Gibson Les Paul at June 22, 2025 01:47 PM (8AONa)

326 The EZ-Pass systems might need lane firmware updates to deal with a transponder going 10 kts.
Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2025 01:45 PM (FhXTo)

Where will the transponder go, on the bridge?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:47 PM (vm8sq)

327 Aetius: the asshole did not set foot in the church; he got out and fired at the guard from outside it:
x.com/newsnoteworthy/status/1936839389012701301

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 01:48 PM (gKWVE)

328 323 Wait, so the guy drove into the church or got run over by a church member, then got shot?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:46 PM (YUL+W)

Media: "Man of color run over by white christian racist"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

329 Massie:

It will be fascinating to see how his future in KY plays out.

I doubt he can win a GOP primary now. Will run as an Independent, maybe.

At some point, hopefully KY voters will notice there's no meaningful distinction between his voting record and AOC's. They vote the same, but have different rationales. We'll see if KY voters keep buying into Massie's high falutin' BS.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:49 PM (kd60y)

330 His lump had the brain tumor

And a festive little hat.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 01:49 PM (KhWnC)

331 Do they yet know if the shooter at the church in Wayne was disaffected church member or relative of one, a disgruntled, crazy leftist or a Muslim?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 01:49 PM (2GCMq)

332 The use of the letter K is complicated in both rules and implications, and should not be attempted by amateurs or people who speak Spanish as a first language

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2025 01:49 PM (D7oie)

333 Suddenly I am thinking of current car regulations to make impacts easier on pedestrians. Too bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:50 PM (YUL+W)

334 329 Massie:

It will be fascinating to see how his future in KY plays out.

I doubt he can win a GOP primary now. Will run as an Independent, maybe.

At some point, hopefully KY voters will notice there's no meaningful distinction between his voting record and AOC's. They vote the same, but have different rationales. We'll see if KY voters keep buying into Massie's high falutin' BS.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:49 PM (kd60y)

Hopefully like a piece of fried chicken; deep fried in a pressure cooker.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:50 PM (ynpvh)

335 326 The EZ-Pass systems might need lane firmware updates to deal with a transponder going 10 kts.
Posted by: DaveA

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We'd be giddy if these Hoosiers drove at the speed of a supertanker.

Posted by: Indiana Toll Road at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (8AONa)

336 Greek Orthodox...

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 37m
At least 15 people killed in attack on Christian worshippers at church in Damascus, Syria. - Reuters

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
BREAKING: Syrian state TV reports explosion in Damascus, monitor says blast hits church

BREAKING: Syria state TV reports suicide attack on Damascus church

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (2yoRf)

337 Kentucky is insane, just fyi. We elected beshear and rand Paul and Mitchell the bitch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (YUL+W)

338 337 Kentucky is insane, just fyi. We elected beshear and rand Paul and Mitchell the bitch.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (YUL+W)


I have Padilla and Gov. Greaseball

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)

339 If making horrible noise is your goal, we're here for you.

Except that Knopfler guy playing "Money for Nothing." Not sure how we allowed that to happen. . .
Posted by: Gibson Les Paul at June 22, 2025 01:47 PM (8AONa)

LOL a Les Paul is way better than a Strat imo

Posted by: jsg at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (iGK7y)

340 337 Kentucky is insane, just fyi. We elected beshear and rand Paul and Mitchell the bitch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (YUL+W)

Seems their fried chicken is better than some of their congresscritters.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (ynpvh)

341 Kentucky is an economically-depressed state people don't move to. This vid contrasts KY with TN, a state everyone wants to move to:
youtu.be/1Gkby12M_d4

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 01:53 PM (gKWVE)

342 I have Padilla and Gov. Greaseball
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)
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And tge pencil-necked bobblehead.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2025 01:53 PM (XZ5S6)

343 Re: bullshit at top at Insty

Lamppost need some ornamentation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:53 PM (YUL+W)

344 342 I have Padilla and Gov. Greaseball
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)
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And tge pencil-necked bobblehead.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2025 01:53 PM (XZ5S6)


Don't remind me

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:53 PM (VE6XX)

345 Amit Segal@AmitSegal
Western sources:
Ali Khamenei has instructed Hezbollah chief Naim Qassem to join the fighting and launch missiles at Israel.
Qassem is refusing to engage, fearing that the IDF will destroy Hezbollah in response.

-
Look! We'll double your virgins! 144 grade A prime virgins on the hoof!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:54 PM (L/fGl)

346 338 337 Kentucky is insane, just fyi. We elected beshear and rand Paul and Mitchell the bitch.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (YUL+W)


I have Padilla and Gov. Greaseball

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)

Quite a few here of us do. The inmates are in charge of the asylum.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

347 ... I think generally southern Appalachia is doing a lot better than northern Appalachia.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 01:54 PM (gKWVE)

348 345 Amit Segal@AmitSegal
Western sources:
Ali Khamenei has instructed Hezbollah chief Naim Qassem to join the fighting and launch missiles at Israel.
Qassem is refusing to engage, fearing that the IDF will destroy Hezbollah in response.

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Look! We'll double your virgins! 144 grade A prime virgins on the hoof!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:54 PM (L/fGl)

Even their wool will be virgin!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

349 345 Amit Segal@AmitSegal
Western sources:
Ali Khamenei has instructed Hezbollah chief Naim Qassem to join the fighting and launch missiles at Israel.
Qassem is refusing to engage, fearing that the IDF will destroy Hezbollah in response.

-
Look! We'll double your virgins! 144 grade A prime virgins on the hoof!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:54 PM (L/fGl)

The Ayatollah needs to go bye,bye

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:55 PM (VE6XX)

350 https://tinyurl.com/bdfuzpfd

A machine gun?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 01:55 PM (KhWnC)

351 Kentucky is insane, just fyi. We elected beshear and rand Paul and Mitchell the bitch.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (YUL+W)


I have Padilla and Gov. Greaseball
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)
***

I got Senator Dumbass Murry and Senator The Ghost Cantwell. You never see or hear of her except.at election time. Plus Gov Tax'em!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:56 PM (W/lyH)

352 27 Much talk this morning about Iran’s announcement that they will close the Strait of Hormuz.
Fun fact - you know who gets hurt most by closing that strait? China - that’s the source for a lot of their oil. Trump will actually be doing Xi a huge favor by blasting the Iranians even more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (EVFZ5)


So basically, closing the straits severely hurts pretty much everybody who was ridiculous enough to condemn the action, but the US - not so much. The Gulf Arab states, Europe, and especially China.

All except Russia, who most of those assholes is condemning over the Ukraine situation.

So it takes a swipe at all the "good guys", but leaves the "bad guys" pretty much alone. Plus, they might not be able to enforce it. You can't make this stuff up.

If the US wanted to say FU to those assholes, we'd do the same thing - close the Gulf.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 01:56 PM (hOOi9)

353 Wait, so the guy drove into the church or got run over by a church member, then got shot?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

Well, I guess he didn't have a flamethrower on him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 01:57 PM (L/fGl)

354 Kalifornia

Massie has made himself into a legendary folk hero of the left. He's the new Liz Cheney.

And yet I bet that in private the left laughs their adz off at what a fool he is.

He could still win re-election if the opposition fractures enough. Trump needs to endorse the strongest anti-Massie candidate early.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:57 PM (kd60y)

355 338 337 Kentucky is insane, just fyi. We elected beshear and rand Paul and Mitchell the bitch.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 01:51 PM (YUL+W)

Isn't Kentucky bordered by more states than any other? Maybe this explains it, though I can't think why.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 01:57 PM (aBgBM)

356 350 https://tinyurl.com/bdfuzpfd

A machine gun?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 01:55 PM (KhWnC)

What's the timestamp of the gunfire?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

357 We (US) should secure passage through the straits for our own ships, buying at a discount (since nobody else can buy it). Then we could sell it at a huge markup to Europe and China.


LOL!!!

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 01:58 PM (hOOi9)

358 He drew the short straw quassem dis

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 01:58 PM (dMwf/)

359 Don't remind me
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 01:53 PM (VE6XX)
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Well, one of my senators is the third senator from New York, and the other is a block of wood attached to a voting button.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2025 01:59 PM (XZ5S6)

360 Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 01:56 PM (hOOi9)

Yet another good reason for the US to be a next exporter, instead of a net importer like Obama and Biden's handlers wanted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:59 PM (ynpvh)

361 Couldn't hear it. Says machine gun in text.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 01:59 PM (KhWnC)

362 So basically, closing the straits severely hurts pretty much everybody who was ridiculous enough to condemn the action, but the US - not so much. The Gulf Arab states, Europe, and especially China.

Except that oil is fungible. It would sting for a bit - until, say, TX spins up oil production. Currently its active rig count is low. I'm sure this is the same for much of North America.

So if the Strait is closed, it will put a short term strain on supplies until more oil can be brought online - effective everybody for a time until supply can be increased.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:00 PM (vm8sq)

363 Iran would be hurting itself more than anybody trying to close the Strait of Hormuz.

All of their oil, the majority of it heading to China, goes through the strait.

The only benefit they'd get is higher oil prices as a result (Russia & Venezuela & OPEC would love it).

That won't do them any good if they can't produce and sell the product.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 22, 2025 02:00 PM (6ydKt)

364 What if your cousin us really hot?
Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 22, 2025 01:01 PM (Ef4Ak)

hmmm...

Are you new around here?

Posted by: pawn, the original at June 22, 2025 02:00 PM (W23tn)

365 357 We (US) should secure passage through the straits for our own ships, buying at a discount (since nobody else can buy it). Then we could sell it at a huge markup to Europe and China.


LOL!!!
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 01:58 PM (hOOi9)

Yeah, if that wouldn't cost so much damn money to do.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:01 PM (vm8sq)

366 WE HAZ A 1ST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 02:01 PM (+qU29)

367 > We'll see if KY voters keep buying into Massie's high falutin' BS.
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Depends on whether he has a primary challenger who's not a nutter. And whether the McConnell election machine here is behind Massie or "other."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 02:01 PM (Q4IgG)

368 So many times in the past, the US president has taken action against another country without declaring war, explaining to Congress what he did and why. Otherwise, Reagan (Grenada), Bush (Panama), Clinton (Kosovo), Barky (Libya) would all be guilty.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:36 PM (ynpvh)



Exactly in accordance with the War Powers Act.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2025 02:02 PM (FoIOl)

369 NOOD

1ST WP

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2025 02:03 PM (ULPxl)

370 368 So many times in the past, the US president has taken action against another country without declaring war, explaining to Congress what he did and why. Otherwise, Reagan (Grenada), Bush (Panama), Clinton (Kosovo), Barky (Libya) would all be guilty.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:36 PM (ynpvh)



Exactly in accordance with the War Powers Act.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2025 02:02 PM (FoIOl)

Did TJ declare war against the Barbary States?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:04 PM (vm8sq)

371 Visegrád 24 @visegrad24 5h
BREAKING:
Russia officially condemns the U.S. for striking Iran:

“The irresponsible decision to subject the territory of a sovereign state to missile and bomb attacks, whatever the arguments it may be presented with, flagrantly violates international law”

Dmitry Medvedev @MedvedevRussiaE Jun 22, 2025
What have the Americans accomplished with their nighttime strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran?

1. Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage.

2. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.

3. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2025 02:05 PM (2yoRf)

372 201 that marrying your cousin is still legal in that state."

Hold my beeeeeer

Posted by: Country Roads, Take me Home, to the place... at June 22, 2025 12:59 PM (tubbA)

States & Territories where marrying your 1st cousin is totes legal:
Alabama, Alaska, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia (adverts: "Virginia is for Lovers"...LOL), American Samoa, DC, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands. (ref: Wikipedia)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

373 Medvedev is an idiot. I imagine even Putin isn’t happy with what he’s saying.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 02:07 PM (EVFZ5)

374 I got Senator Dumbass Murry and Senator The Ghost Cantwell. You never see or hear of her except.at election time. Plus Gov Tax'em!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:56 PM (W/lyH)

What's frightening was that Patty Murray was President Pro Tempore of the Senate for a time.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:09 PM (vm8sq)

375
Look! We'll double your virgins! 144 grade A prime virgins on the hoof!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane


Ewww, that's gross.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 02:18 PM (63Dwl)

376 Don't we celebrate that every year on July 4? Or am I missing the point of "Independence Day?"

Lefties have no idea what July 4th/Rev war was about

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2025 02:20 PM (t0Rmr)

377 Darnitall, I am too slow.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 22, 2025 02:27 PM (RqH5H)

378 Starting to really respect Marco Rubio. Totally blitzed the talking points of some dem anchor lady and did it in a forceful, sharp manner that left her floundering.

Most of his other cabinet members seem cut from the same cloth. They seem to realize that democrats and the media loathe them, will lie about them constantly, and that you cannot make friends with them or gain any respect from them in any way.

More of this, please.

Posted by: RM at June 22, 2025 02:33 PM (n/1Oj)

379 Except that Knopfler guy playing "Money for Nothing." Not sure how we allowed that to happen. . .
Posted by: Gibson Les Paul
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I'm a Strat guy, and I felt like everything Knopfler recorded from that point on no longer had that sweet ringing tone that the earlier Dire Straits albums had where he used a Strat almost exclusively.

Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 02:39 PM (TN0g+)

380 370 368 So many times in the past, the US president has taken action against another country without declaring war, explaining to Congress what he did and why. Otherwise, Reagan (Grenada), Bush (Panama), Clinton (Kosovo), Barky (Libya) would all be guilty.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2025 01:36 PM (ynpvh)



Exactly in accordance with the War Powers Act.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2025 02:02 PM (FoIOl)

Did TJ declare war against the Barbary States?
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Clinton also bombed what turned out to be an aspirin factory or some other trivial facility in an effort to divert attention from Monica-gate.

Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 02:41 PM (TN0g+)

381 Attack on a sovereign state? I wonder who else did that because reasons.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:44 PM (VofaG)

382 LOL a Les Paul is way better than a Strat imo
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Two different tools that do two different jobs.

Posted by: Crusader at June 22, 2025 02:44 PM (TN0g+)

383 Gitard Man. And His Jungle Band.

Apologies to Ray Stevens.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 22, 2025 03:06 PM (2sMLA)

384 Posted on X (includes vid of the Iran flags):

So let me get this straight…
Two months ago, we had Ukrainian flags everywhere.
A month ago we had Palestinian flags everywhere.
A week ago we had Mexican flags everywhere.
Now we have Iranian flags everywhere.
What the hell is going on?????

https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1936868464989245809

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2025 06:06 PM (gWBY1)

385 Feel good X of the day: Fordow closed permanently on Google Maps.

https://x.com/AnnaDsays/status/1936830880330178857

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2025 06:08 PM (gWBY1)

Sunday Morning Book Thread - 6-22-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]


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(HT: Pete Zah)

Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading. Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...(It ain't easy being a Moron.)

So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?

NOTE: Please keep comments book related. Yes, important news happened overnight. It can wait until the political thread for discussion. Or continue the discussion in the Tech Thread. If something huge happens, then CBD may come along and throw in a new thread.

PIC NOTE

This was sent to me by Pete Zah. It's a great example of human ingenuity. When space is at a premium for bookshelves, there's always a way to stack them together, yet make them accessible upon demand. Although I don't think this would work at my house. It's not really designed for this type of bookshelf. Still, it's a cool idea.

DRAMATIS PERSONAE

Latin for "story people" (more or less), the Dramatis Personae in a work is a list of the characters provided at the beginning or end of a story. Plays have had this forever, as it's something of a necessity when casting actors to play the various parts. Within the script of a play, the Dramatis Personae is usually arranged from principle leads down to the extras. It also gives a bit of context for each role, indicating relationships, occupations, and so on.

Nowadays, you may see a Dramatis Personae page (or pages) within a novel. It's a great way to keep track of characters, especially if there are a lot of them. The Malazan books by Steven Erickson and Ian C. Esslemont tend to have Loads and Loads of Characters, so you almost NEED a Dramatis Personae section in order to keep track of who is who. This is especially useful for tracking characters who belong to competing factions or nations, such as the Malazan Empire v. the Crimson Guard.

Different authors handle the Dramatis Personae in different ways. Robert Jordan, for instance, includes a "Glossary" section in most of the Wheel of Time books which will also include descriptions of important characters, though not all of the characters in the story will be listed. For that, you need The Wheel of Time Companion, though I don't know if it lists ALL the characters in the books (approximately 2,700 total characters). Tad Williams will put sections for "People," "Places," "Things," and "Words and Phrases" at the end of his books, dividing the "People" section into various nationalities/ethnicities/races as appropriate.

Note that the Dramatis Personae page does not have to be limited to lengthy doorstopper novels. Any length of novel can include a Dramatis Personae page if the author is so inclined. P.C. Hodgell's God Stalk is less than 300 pages and is a quick read, but has around 40 characters, so she put in a Dramatis Personae section so that the reader can identify who belongs to which faction and their relationships to each other, which is very important to the story. In Troy Denning's Star Wars: Crucible, there are only 14 principal characters, but he also included a Dramatis Personae page listing the characters, their gender, and their species where appropriate (e.g., "Marvid Qreph: industrialist (Columi male)").

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THEY DON'T READ VERY WELL

Pixy Misa posted a link to They Don't Read Very Well: A Study of the Reading Comprehension Skills of English Majors at Two Midwestern Universities on Monday's Tech Thread. Since I am an English major and I attended a midwestern university (where I still work, by the way), I read through the article. It's depressing. The authors of this article examined the reading comprehension skills of 85 English majors from two Kansas universities back in spring semester of 2015, so while the article was published recently (2024), the research itself took place around a decade ago.

All the students had to do was read the first seven paragraphs of Bleak House by Charles Dickens. Then they attempted to explain the meaning of these paragraphs in their own words to the facilitator, who recorded their response.

Out of the 85 students, fully 58% were determined to be unable to read Bleak House on their own. That is, they struggled so much with interpreting just the first seven paragraphs that they would never be able to finish the novel, nor would they be able to describe what happened in the story. They also lacked the skills necessary to develop their comprehension on their own, as they simply didn't know what they didn't know.

Only four of the subjects (around 5%) were classified as "Proficient Readers," meaning they were able to comprehend Bleak House and have a reasonably intelligent conversation about the novel. These readers were able to use positive reading strategies to increase their comprehension when they were stuck or lost within the story, looking up unfamiliar words and parsing figurative language (similes and metaphors) correctly in most cases.

Again, these were all ENGLISH MAJORS, meaning they *should* have advanced reading comprehension skills, but clearly the vast majority of the students in this study were unprepared for the rigor needed to read classic literature. I find it sad that these students struggled so much with their basic reading comprehension that they would not be able to complete their curriculum.

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It's time to take a break from your daily routine and especially from corporate culture and get some great based books from both established and emerging talent for only $0.99 - many titles free - but only for one week! With over 300 titles - over a hundred of which are new arrivals - there's something for everyone. Check it out now through Tuesday June 24 at:

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Now THIS is a comeback!

Subject: Arthur Penn. (That's the name on his Amex card.) Occupation: Former king of England. Current (early 21st century) whereabouts: New York City.

That's the premise for Knight Life by the late, great Peter David.

I'm barely into the book, but Arthur has already picked up two followers, junkies who are so far gone they've forgotten their names. Owing to their love of rock 'n' roll, they call themselves Buddy and Elvis. Morgan LeFay is around, as is a woman named Gwen. The jacket blurb mentions Merlin -- and a mayoral election.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 15, 2025 09:05 AM (p/isN)

Comment: Since stories about King Arthur are in the public domain, it's not surprising that authors have had a lot of fun with the source material. Some authors, like T. H. White and Parke Godwin, present a more "serious" version of the Arthurian legends, while other authors like Tim Powers and Peter David above, add a more light-hearted tone to the stories. Knight Life does sound like a book I would enjoy so I may have to check it out someday. And really, could King Arthur Reborn do a worse job of managing New York City than the current crop of politicians?

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Now I am reading Culture: The Story of Us, from Cave Art to K-Pop. It begins in the famous cave in France in which archeologists discovered wall paintings around 15,000 years old.

I just finished the first chapter, all about Egypt's Queen Nefertiti, and it is fascinating. She and her king husband did a religious right turn, developing a monotheistic worldview, and had the whole deep state against them, so much that they moved the court to a new place down the Nile, and built an entirely new capital city. Her era was around 1300 B.C., with Egypt at its all time peak of wealth.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 15, 2025 11:22 AM (zeLd4)

Comment: Culture seems to be hardwired into the human experience. Even the most primitive societies will develop cultural experiences that enhance their own lives, whether through art, music, dance, storytelling, or some combination of all of these. Nowadays, we seem to live in a society with a fractured culture, particularly here in the United States where we have fundamental differences between the Left and Right politically, to the point that it can be difficult to sympathize with our fellow men. What will archaeologists and anthropologists think of our society a hundred years from now? A thousand years from now?

MORE MORON RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE FOUND HERE: AoSHQ - Book Thread Recommendations

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WHAT I'VE ACQUIRED THIS PAST WEEK:


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It's June, so that must mean it's time for the semi-annual public library book sale! As usual, I walked out with a bundle of books for a reasonable price--12 books for just $32. As a bonus, they throw in a free cat toy with every armful of books! (A paper bag.)


  • The Arabian Nights

  • Tales from the "White Hart" by Arthur C. Clarke -- A collection of speculative fiction stories with the narrative framing element of all of them being tall tales told around a few pints down at the local pub.

  • Timeline by Michael Crichton

  • Star Trek: The Original Series - Crisis on Centaurus by Brad Ferguson -- I have this in paperback, but I thought it would be neat to own a hardcover edition. I didn't even know hardcover editions of these books even existed.

  • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein -- Seems like a classic I should read.

  • Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein -- Another classic that I can now read. I have a copy of this same edition of the book, but this one is in much better condition and is "readable," i.e., it won't fall apart on me.

  • The Pogo Peek-A-Book by Walt Kelly

  • From the Corner of His Eye by Dean Koontz

  • Boy's Life by Robert McCammon -- Not sure if I can read this or not. It's a paperback copy that was butchered and repackaged in hardcover format. Unfortunately, whoever did it screwed up the margins so sometimes the right or left side of the text is slightly cut off.
  • The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle -- Another classic of science fiction that I feel I should read.

  • Outies by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle -- The second sequel to The Mote in God's Eye.

  • The Once and Future King by T. H. White -- The classic Arthurian story, which is really a retelling of Le Morte d'Arthur by Sir Thomas Malory.

WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK:

After reviewing some of OregonMuse's old Book Threads, I thought I'd try something a bit different. Instead of just listing WHAT I'm reading, I'll include commentary as well. Unless otherwise specified, you can interpret this as an implied recommendation, though as always your mileage may vary.

I didn't get as much reading done this week as I would have liked. I finished Silverberg's Majipoor series and then I couldn't seem to muster up motivation to find something else. It's been an odd week for me. I finally settled on the following:


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Night's Dawn Trilogy Book 1 - The Reality Dysfunction by Peter F. Hamilton

Whew! I finished The Reality Dysfunction this week and stared on the next book (see below). The first book in this epic space opera does take a while to get going, as the main plot really doesn't kick off until about 500 pages into the book. Before that is mostly worldbuilding as Hamilton introduces characters and describes the societies in which they live. There are two main competing philosophies, though they don't actively hate each other, just see the world in a different way. The "Edenists" have adapted to using biotechnology ("biotek") to improve themselves physically and mentally. They've created living space ships and orbiting habitats with which they share their consciousness as they have bioengineered telepathic abilities as well. Conversations between Edenists would be weird to observe as everyone would appear to be standing around, even though they are all conversing with each other mentally.

On the flip side we have the "Adamists," who have chosen to use conventional (for them) technological approaches to self-improvement. They incorporate a form of nanotechnology into their bodies, which enhances their own physical and mental abilities. Although they don't have the telepathy of the Edenists, they can share data with each other by "datavising" information back and forth. Basically implanted wireless technology in their brains.

Now both the Edenists and Adamists have to work together to defeat a threat from beyond the stars and beyond reality as they know it. Humans are becoming "possessed" by a strange energy virus that defies all natural laws as we understand them. A Satanic cult (yes, really) has brought something back from Unbeing.


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Night's Dawn Trilogy Book 2 - The Neutronium Alchemist by Peter F. Hamilton

I'm still in the early stages of this book, but it's moving faster plotwise because now we are in the thick of the main conflict of this story. Humanity is losing as they do not fully understand the enemy they are up against. In an amusing subplot--and I swear I am not making this up--Al Capone has returned from beyond the grave and is now conspiring with other possessed humans to conquer the Confederacy.

Meanwhile the brilliant creator of the "Alchemist," a doomsday device that can destroy a star, has escaped her gilded cage and is now free to roam the galaxy herself. Is her device the key to winning the war?

PREVIOUS SUNDAY MORNING BOOK THREAD - 6-15-2025 (NOTE: Do NOT comment on old threads!)

Tips, suggestions, recommendations, etc., can all be directed to perfessor -dot- squirrel -at- gmail -dot- com.


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Disclaimer: No Morons were physically harmed in the making of this Sunday Morning Book Thread. With a rowley, powley, gammon and spinach!

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1 Got up too soon and nothing to do.

Read a short story by Robert Ormond Case, "Ridin' Luck." It was a selection from Raconteur Press by their e-mail.

Pro tip: Never trade horses with someone you just met on the trail....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:00 AM (0eaVi)

2 Anyone here a Stanislaw Lem fan?

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (fV+MH)

3 Happy Bookday, people.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (kpS4V)

4 Book 'im, Dano!

Posted by: muldoon at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (poXs5)

5 Anyone here a Stanislaw Lem fan?
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (fV+MH)
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Heard of him, but never read any of his stuff, though I've heard it's really good.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 09:03 AM (IBQGV)

6 Dramatis Personae.

I never thought of doing that for anything except myself to keep track of the names. I guess it's a good idea. You don't see it much any more, do you?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:04 AM (0eaVi)

7 You will enjoy Timeline.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:04 AM (Vfq+S)

8 Yay book thread!

The bookshelves remind me of some of the archival office shelving one sees now and again. I recall one agency that had a track system in the floor and one cranked the shelves one way or another to produce a single aisle where one could reach the records.

Totally obsolete now. All the records are electronic, but there was a period when mounting paper files required serious engineering.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (ZOv7s)

9 Perfesser. You know that if ace reads the book thread he's going to want those bookshelves. Constructing them would make for interesting posts.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (2NHgQ)

10 I attended an SF convention this weekend and got loads of recommendations for new books to pick up.

Dilemma: do I buy them in the dealer's room right away, or help out the authors by purchasing through Barnes & Noble or Amazon?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (YaHeP)

11 "Heard of him, but never read any of his stuff, though I've heard it's really good.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel "

His good stuff is so good.

But he also has these rambling uber-intellectual stories that are a dreadful slog.

But the good stuff is my favorite.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 09:06 AM (fV+MH)

12 Dramatis Personae.

I never thought of doing that for anything except myself to keep track of the names. I guess it's a good idea. You don't see it much any more, do you?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:04 AM (0eaVi)
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I always keep a cheat sheet for my characters, noting appearance, equipment, actions, etc. so that if I have a break in writing, I have a summary to keep me up to speed.

The only time I used a Dramatis Persona was the first book of the Man of Destiny series, where I felt it was useful to give some snapshots of the various politicians to help bring people up to speed. I wrote it without it, and test-readers suggested adding it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:06 AM (ZOv7s)

13 "The Future Was Now: Madmen, Mavericks, and the Epic Sci-Fi Summer of 1982" by Chris Nashawaty is about the year that gave us E.T., Tron, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kan, Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, and The Road Warrior.

I saw every one of these masterpieces. Remember going to the movies almost every week? I do.

Blade Runner and The Thing were released on the same day to critical disdain and audience indifference. My friend and I both loved Blade Runner and to this day it remains one of my all time favorites. The Thing grossed me out into a full-blown panic attack, and it wasn't until years later that I grew to appreciate its grotesque excesses.

Potential actors to portray blade runner Rick Decker: Tommy Lee Jones (I could see that), Al Pacino, Nick Nolte, Burt Reynolds (more Sharkey, less Gator), Peter Falk ("There's just one more thing..."), and most horrifying of all, Dustin Hoffman. Luckily, Fancher's girlfriend Barbara Hershey had recently been speaking with Steven Spielberg while he was shooting "Raiders of the Lost Ark", and he raved about Harrison Ford.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (kpS4V)

14 I like the rolling bookshelves, but deciding which books to put in the back would be a pain.

On the other hand, I double-shelve most of my books.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (p/isN)

15 You can't know the players without a program.

Posted by: Dramatis Clematis at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (lIgBp)

16 Perfesser. You know that if ace reads the book thread he's going to want those bookshelves. Constructing them would make for interesting posts.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (2NHgQ)
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The part where he installs it with the gap against the wall will be hilarious.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:08 AM (ZOv7s)

17 You know that if ace reads the book thread he's going to want those bookshelves. Constructing them would make for interesting posts.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (2NHgQ)
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He'd get wedged between the inner and outer shelves.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:08 AM (kpS4V)

18 On the other hand, I double-shelve most of my books.
Posted by: Weak Geek

Put them in two places?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 09:09 AM (cYBz/)

19 Morning, book folken! I just finished writing my required daily page on a new short story I started last week. Not sure how I'm going to work it all out, but it should be fun anyway.

This week, I finished two Jack Reacher novels, Echo Burning and Without Fail, the fifth and sixth in the series. Compulsively readable and fast-moving, they are not just action stories. There's plenty of that. But Reacher thinks, observes facts, and integrates them into conclusions in an Ellery Queen-ish fashion at times. Sometimes he reaches a wrong conclusion, and that provides impetus for plot twists. I'll try more in the series.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:09 AM (omVj0)

20 I read 'The Once and Future King' a looong time ago. Probably when I was in 7th grade, I think.

Posted by: dantesed at June 22, 2025 09:09 AM (Oy/m2)

21 The Perry Mason mysteries list the characters in the front, and add the page number of first appearance -- but they cheat; not every character gets listed. That sometimes helps indicate the guilty party.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 09:10 AM (p/isN)

22 As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...(It ain't easy being a Moron.)

This.

I really hope y'all appreciate the time and effort that "Perfessor" Squirrel puts in to find these fine examples!

I further really hope that those scofflaws amongst us who think a short robe, rather than pants, are suitable for the most prestigious Thread in the AoSHQ Universe (and you know who you are), will see the error of their ways. Today's pants would be an excellent transition mechanism.

Posted by: Kermit at June 22, 2025 09:10 AM (0sNs1)

23 Sorry, Prof.

With my wife in England to see the places featured in the books she's read, I put "Knight Life" aside in favor of a couple of prewar Saint stories, one of which I'd never read thoroughly. I can't visit those sights, such as Croydon airfield, because so many of them no longer exist.

Meanwhile in "Knight Life," the former King Arthur is running for mayor of New York City as a stepping stone to higher offices, and, eventually, his throne. He has his old adviser Merlin -- make that young adviser, because Merlin is aging in reverse.

Merlin is also putting the band back together. Seems that several of the knights of the Round Table are still around.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 09:11 AM (p/isN)

24 Anyone here a Stanislaw Lem fan?

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (fV+MH)



I really enjoy his "Cyberiad" and "Tales of Pirx the Pilot".

Not as wild about his other stuff. A lot of his stuff concerns issues of the last century but not so important now.

Unlike Philip K Dick, he doesn't still resonate as well in the 21st Century.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 09:11 AM (iJfKG)

25 Speaking of books for boys....

Raconteur Press just released a new juvenile sci-fi, "Boy's Own Starship."

Bought through this link, and sent to niece's boy.

https://tinyurl.com/yj82nxh2

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:12 AM (0eaVi)

26 Speaking of shelving, yesterday I added two massive bookcases to Chateau Lloyd, purchased at a local estate sale.

Folks, if you aren't monitoring estate sales, you aren't trying. So much goodies out there, and on Saturday, it goes to 50% off! Do you wait, and risk losing it, or cool your heels waiting for the big score? I did the latter, and it paid off, bigly. Solid wood, 6th monoliths for less than you could for those sawdust-and-glue pieces of junk.

There they sit. Ominously empty, waiting to fill their gaping maws with future purchases.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:12 AM (ZOv7s)

27 Reread the public domain book Little Fuzzy.

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 09:13 AM (LgzDa)

28 After discussing one of Wilkie Collins' novels a few weeks back, it is probably apropos to discuss his magnum opus, The Moonstone. This is widely considered to be the prototype of the modern mystery novel, though it was published several years after Edgar Allan Poe had introduced his inspector Dupin.

The story is epistolary, told in sequence by three of the characters involved, a style Collins called multi-narration, which also adds to the depth (and length) of the novel. Interestingly, Collins wrote much of the novel while bedridden with gout, and under the influence of laudanum.

The moonstone is a highly valuable diamond which was stolen from an Indian temple many years previously, and Franklin Blake, as executor upon the death of his father, must give it to his cousin. Meanwhile, three Indian priests are dedicated to getting the stone back and returning it to its rightful place. When the stone disappears, both the location of the stone and the identity of the thief are in question. As the story progresses, more and more clues are revealed, and twists and turns abound. It is quite the story, although being written in the Victorian parlance, is not a fast read.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:13 AM (Vfq+S)

29 He had one story about minidrones for warfare

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (bXbFr)

30 Also finished last night: The Problem of the Wire Cage, a 1939 impossible crime novel by John Dickson Carr. Set in the summer of '38 (I suppose), it features a man strangled to death in the middle of a wire-enclosed full-size private tennis court, with only his own footprints in the wet sand-and-gravel court surface.

Haters of the classical, Golden Age detective story say such tales are artificial. True to a degree; that's the fun! But beyond that, Carr, who was a top-flight writer, draws the portraits of the people involved, including the murderer, with tremendous skill. Personalities are important in Carr's work, almost as much as locked rooms. And on top of that, the "impossible" part of the crime was not planned by the killer, but came as an accident -- making the whole venture riskier for the killer, and more plausible for the reader.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (omVj0)

31 I love hearing the producers get bent out of shape over ten million dollar budgets. And it ballooned up to fifteen million! What would they think of today's three hundred million dollar movies that have to make a huge opening weekend take? Back then, a studio just had to make a modest profit over the long hall.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (kpS4V)

32 E.T., Tron, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kan, Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, and The Road Warrior.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (kpS4V)
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I have seen them all, but only got to Poltergeist in the last few years on streaming. Horror movies do not interest me. (I saw "The Thing" in sci-fi club, so it didn't count.)

Is "Blade Runner" an example where the movie is better than the book? I like the movie because it is film noir, but I understand the book is not, which is why I have ignored it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (ZOv7s)

33 I always keep a cheat sheet for my characters, noting appearance, equipment, actions, etc. so that if I have a break in writing, I have a summary to keep me up to speed.

AH, I only put in their names and jobs, maybe relationships to other characters. It's only for me. If I ever publish, maybe I'll need a DP.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (0eaVi)

34 I love hearing the producers get bent out of shape over ten million dollar budgets. And it ballooned up to fifteen million! What would they think of today's three hundred million dollar movies that have to make a huge opening weekend take? Back then, a studio just had to make a modest profit over the long hall.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (kpS4V)
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To be fair, money was worth more in those day. Fifty years of fiat currency and Bidenflation make comparisons a bit more difficult.

See also: my 1975 firearm buyers' guide.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)

35 Thanks for another dandy Book Thread, Perfessor!

The rolling book shelves remind me of a filing system used at one of the places I worked. We thought it was a brilliant idea and a great use of limited space.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 22, 2025 09:17 AM (kB9dk)

36 Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:13 AM (Vfq+S)

I have that in my bookcase but I've never had a chance to read it. Maybe, because I forgot it's there.

Posted by: dantesed at June 22, 2025 09:17 AM (Oy/m2)

37 Yes cleopatra based on plutarch and other accounts was something like 40 million back then

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 09:18 AM (bXbFr)

38 Greatly amused to see you feature the Pogo Peek a Book - my dad left behind a collection of those from the 50’s. Funny, and some amazingly sharp political satire right in the heart of the Cold War. Too bad he’s mostly forgotten now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:18 AM (EVFZ5)

39 Yes do androids sleep was unfilmable making it into a futuristic noir was the only way to so it

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 09:19 AM (bXbFr)

40 Good morning!

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 22, 2025 09:19 AM (t9lPv)

41 Deckard was more spade than marlowe

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 09:21 AM (bXbFr)

42 Yes, Perfessor, The Mote in God's Eye is a must-read. It was Niven & Pournelle's first collaboration. They swore they would write the SF novel they wanted to read when they were twelve. It's a First Contact story: Mankind, who has reached the stars, makes its first contact with aliens -- and they *are* alien, physically and culturally. Fascinating and memorable stuff. (And Robert Heinlein did a voluntary and unpaid line-editing job on it too.)

The first sequel, The Gripping Hand, did not "grip" me at all. I did not know there was a third in the series.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:21 AM (omVj0)

43 Is "Blade Runner" an example where the movie is better than the book? I like the movie because it is film noir, but I understand the book is not, which is why I have ignored it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:14 AM (ZOv7s
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I haven't read the book, but from what I understand, the world in this story is underpopulated. Ridley Scott felt that was just too depressing, and instead opted for the mad polyglot crush of an overpopulated Los Angeles, which is at least full of life.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:21 AM (kpS4V)

44 Not much reading this week what with estate sale watching, scoping a new bed for the grandkids and various other projects.

I did however receive War Trophies - Weapons From Vietnam by Keith Seafield. I stumbled on this through Youtube gun channel references, track down a copy and ordered it.

It is not the reference book that I thought it was, and it has the fit and finish of an early 1990s yearbook. Lots of pictures, but uneven fonts, formatting and while it has page numbers, it does not have a functional table of contents nor an index. There's a list of articles up front, and then you flip pages until you find them.

The author apparently worked for an online firearm seller, and basically collected stories and information about Vietnam bringback guns from his customers. On the plus side, he did get some interesting stories and often provides photos of the paperwork, which is unique. Alas, much of the text is merely a copy/paste of the item description, and wikipedia (!) is repeatedly cited as a source. (cont)

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)

45 Is "Blade Runner" an example where the movie is better than the book? I like the movie because it is film noir, but I understand the book is not, which is why I have ignored it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025


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I can't recall if I read the Dick novel, so I guess it is not as memorable as the film. The film is quite noir-ish for sure. At the time I said it was the most mature SF movie I'd ever seen, one that seemed like a novel itself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:23 AM (omVj0)

46 Good Sunday morning, horde!

In my latest thrift shopping for books adventure, I found a load of spy thrillers by one Helen Macinnes, copyright dates ranging from 1944 to about 1978.

I've never heard of her, but they looked interesting. Titles I got were The Venetian Affair, The Salzburg Connection, Above Suspicion, While Still We Live, Prelude to Terror.

Anyone familiar with this author? Did I waste $2.50? Going to start in on them this week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 09:24 AM (h7ZuX)

47 (cont) This book cries out for an editor, and I'm weighing on reaching out to make it better in a reprint. It looks like a vanity press was used and the profits are supposed to go to a veterans' charity. One of the videos promoting it spent more time talking about the good cause than the book.

It may sound like I have buyer's remorse, but it has pushed out my knowledge a bit, and I may follow up because I've been working on a book of essays about firearms. This could be incorporated into that effort.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:24 AM (ZOv7s)

48 This week, among other things, I read Hardy's "A Mathematician's Apology," and Haldane's "Callinicus: A Defense of Chemical Warfare." Hardy was so convincing, I decided to forgive him.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 22, 2025 09:24 AM (t9lPv)

49 Deckard was more spade than marlowe
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025


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Deckard, if I recall aright, was part of an agency of some kind, as Spade was (he had his partnership agency with Archer). Whereas Marlowe was a lone operator.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:25 AM (omVj0)

50 @18 --

Put some behind others.

I did that with my Saint books, which meant that I have to move the Mason books to get to them. Then I got smarter and bought a bookcase that I put in oldest son's room. He hasn't lived here for years, so I claimed the room.

Now I have to move the Masons to get to the Westlakes.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 09:26 AM (p/isN)

51 I'm reading air compressor manuals. Got a lot to learn for this new job. Tomorrow I start on operations manuals for pick and place machines. Then in a couple of weeks I should have maintnence manuals for them.
Gotta fix the air flow issue first though as the system isn't keeping up with two lines and there is another that needs to go online in about a month. I might have to have another expensive system put in.
Good thing money isn't an issue.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 09:26 AM (LgDgc)

52 They don't read very well.

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They don't listen so well either.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 09:26 AM (RIvkX)

53 I can't recall if I read the Dick novel, so I guess it is not as memorable as the film. The film is quite noir-ish for sure. At the time I said it was the most mature SF movie I'd ever seen, one that seemed like a novel itself.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:23 AM (omVj0)
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I'm very much into film noir, and Blade Runner hit that sweet spot.

I think it's initial failure to find an audience was because people expected Ford to be like Han or Indy. I know when I watched it on video with my father, he liked it a lot and I found it off-putting. Only later, when I had watched noir did I get it. It's interesting that a lot of people - including Scott - didn't appreciate that aspect. If you remove the voiceover, you remove the noir. The fact that Ford was lackluster and bored actually is in character.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:27 AM (ZOv7s)

54 Morning, Perfessor.

Howdy, Horde.

Finally getting around to Donald Westlake's posthumously published novel Memory (aka The Actor as a tie-in to the movie). Not a mystery/suspense, at least not so far but I'm only a third into it and Westlake was always good at twists and turns.

While I've enjoyed what Dickens I've read, I found Bleak House a bit of a slog and have bogged down twice now trying to read it (at about the hundred page mark). So I can understand not being able to read Bleak House -- but seven paragraphs? Jeez...

Gotta bail out of the thread at about half time today -- the extraordinarily nifty Mrs Some Guy's annual family reunion is today so I'll be annoying assorted in-laws for a while.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:27 AM (q3u5l)

55 I'm reading air compressor manuals.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 09:26 AM (LgDgc)
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As soon as I read that sentence I knew who was writing this.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

56 Dilemma: do I buy them in the dealer's room right away, or help out the authors by purchasing through Barnes & Noble or Amazon?
Posted by: Trimegistus
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Depends on your circumstances. Reasonably flush, share more with the authors.
Tight on funds, take care of yourself first.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 09:29 AM (n4GiU)

57 The film is nothing like the book. Andys control a suburban police substation and actual real events become confused. JF Sebastian is a chickenhead.

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 09:29 AM (Puvdf)

58 Niven and Pournelle made some epic stuff.

With dramatis personae!

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 09:29 AM (fV+MH)

59 In my latest thrift shopping for books adventure, I found a load of spy thrillers by one Helen Macinnes, copyright dates ranging from 1944 to about 1978.

I've never heard of her, but they looked interesting. Titles I got were The Venetian Affair, The Salzburg Connection, Above Suspicion, While Still We Live, Prelude to Terror.

Anyone familiar with this author? Did I waste $2.50? Going to start in on them this week.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025


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She was quite the seller in her day. I think her spy stuff is more the Ambler/Greene sort of thing, where an innocent, a non-spy, or several, are caught up in intrigue. Her Venetian Affair was filmed with Robert Vaughn in about 1967, and his rumpled journalist character, not a pro spy, is the lead -- about as far from the glamorous Napoleon Solo as you can get.

I think I've read Above Suspicion, and I think it involves a civilian married couple somehow -- more Hitchcock's The Man Who Kwew Too Much film than it is a Bond-type story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:29 AM (omVj0)

60 Put... The... Candle... Back...

Posted by: Ace Trapped Behind the Rolling Bookcase at June 22, 2025 09:30 AM (i0F8b)

61 soon as I read that sentence I knew who was writing this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H.


Could have been Skip.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 09:30 AM (n4GiU)

62 Anyone familiar with this author? Did I waste $2.50? Going to start in on them this week.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 09:24 AM (h7ZuX)


Read some of them years ago. I don't think you will be disappointed.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 09:32 AM (W/lyH)

63 I've never read MacInnes, but Mrs Some Guy read a few of them eons ago and enjoyed them.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:33 AM (q3u5l)

64 @46 --

I've heard of Helen MacInnes, but I've never read her books. The titles do sound interesting.

I look forward to your reviews.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 09:34 AM (p/isN)

65 If you remove the voiceover, you remove the noir. The fact that Ford was lackluster and bored actually is in character.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:27 AM (ZOv7s)

I much prefer the cut with no voiceover. Many people miss that Ford is not the “hero” of the movie at all - Rutgers Hauer is. Ford is just the top slave catcher for a corrupt and evil regime.
Hauer is the true tragic figure at the heart of the story.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:34 AM (EVFZ5)

66 While I've enjoyed what Dickens I've read, I found Bleak House a bit of a slog and have bogged down twice now trying to read it (at about the hundred page mark). So I can understand not being able to read Bleak House -- but seven paragraphs? Jeez...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:27 AM (q3u5l)

I read that report as well. One thing that wasn't said, today's writing is different than Dickens' era. It was denser, and had longer sentences than today's Hemingwayesque writing. Throw in unfamiliar terms for items, then you have to stop and find out what it was before you understand what the allusions are. That can bog you down. Reading dense, long writing puts a strain on your attention span. If you don't know the events or things being referred to, you lose interest.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:34 AM (0eaVi)

67 I am currently trying Michael Crichton's 2009 novel Pirate Latitudes. It's 1665 in Jamaica, and an English sea captain is about to take on Spanish galleons for fun and profit. Seems quite readable so far -- as most of Crichton's stuff was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:34 AM (omVj0)

68 Booken morgen horden

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 22, 2025 09:36 AM (Splbu)

69 Currently, I'm reading

"Selected Short Stories of Philip K Dick" assembled by the Folio Society.

The stories are arranged chronologically so you see PKD's development as a writer and the early interest in certain ideas which would become important to him later.

I'm still in the early stuff, which I would say are fairly typical 2nd or 3rd tier SF stories. Well written, well described but the ideas kind of just lay there with 20th century/Cold War concerns.

BONUS! This book was a Father's Day gift by the kiddos, and as a book it's just physically beautiful. Very well made for reading with a great font and spacing on the page. Binding and cover that should last forever. Nice illustrations.
My point is...if you just like books as a physical "thing" and have a novel that you read over and over. Give FS a look. They're overpriced so it's not an every day sort of thing.
HINT!: You can find them at used book stores generally for a very nice discount.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 09:37 AM (iJfKG)

70 Could have been Skip.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 09:30 AM (n4GiU)
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Not in my mind. When I see someone describing this week's reading in terms of engine repair or some other mechanical function, the "Reforger" light goes off in my head.

Kind of like seeing Moon Nazis or hollow earth and knowing Eris is the author before you get to the end.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

71 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 09:37 AM (yTvNw)

72 Thanks for the signal boost!

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 22, 2025 09:38 AM (rVHpS)

73 Rereading Tales of Soldiers and Civilians, a collection of Ambrose Bierce short stories.

Killed at Resaca is still my favorite, about a lieutenant who unnecessarily exposed himself because his bitch fiance sent him a letter advising that another officer had called him a shirker.

Bierce, IMO, deserves far more attention than he gets in the list of great American writers.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 09:38 AM (ITkJX)

74 Personally I think a dramatis personae page with even a few characters is useful, esp. if they have similar last names or are related somehow, so the reader can keep them all straight. The Seattle publisher interested in my mystery novel wants me to leave that out. On the other hand I haven't heard from them about anything in more than two weeks. I'm about ready to say scruit and look into Amazon-marketing this novel myself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:38 AM (omVj0)

75 I much prefer the cut with no voiceover. Many people miss that Ford is not the “hero” of the movie at all - Rutgers Hauer is. Ford is just the top slave catcher for a corrupt and evil regime.
Hauer is the true tragic figure at the heart of the story.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:34 AM (EVFZ5)
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You're free to like what you want, but without the voiceover it is no longer noir.

You also lose a lot of information, such as Deckard likening his old boss to a segregationist.

Put simply, the movie doesn't make sense without it. You can enjoy its absence because you can fill in the gaps. A first-time viewer would be utterly lost.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)

76 Perfessor,

I highly recommend "The Mote in God's Eye".

It is one of the greatest SF stories ever written.

I am slogging my way through "The Reality Disfunction". I'm not enjoying it as much as his other works I have read. There are long sections where there is really nothing happening. He pops a new minor character in here and there, seemingly at a whim.

Would probably be more enjoyable to me if it was a bit edited.

Not Hamilton's best work, in my opinion. And yes it continues with his completely over the top episodes that I am getting tired of.

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 09:40 AM (W23tn)

77 Dungeon Crawler Carl has been fun.

Posted by: H at June 22, 2025 09:41 AM (2gjbv)

78 Any English major should expect to encounter writing that pre-dates Hemingway and his influence; some of it will go right by him (I know there's a lot that went right by me in my undergrad days -- hell, there's a lot that still does). But if you're an English major, encountering pre-20th century writing is a respectable part of the whole point of being an English major. The poor souls who couldn't handle seven paragraphs of Bleak House should demand a refund of whatever their parents paid in taxes to cover their K-12. They started college without being even close to prepared for it.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:41 AM (q3u5l)

79 My trash read this week is "Aliens: Vasquez" by V. Castro.

It's kind of a bait-and-switch. The first quarter of the novel is about our beloved chola, her tough upbringing, meeting Drake in juvie, an unplanned pregnancy, and signing up with the USCM. Then boom, cut to her death scene with Gorman.

It's really just setting the stage for her twins, one of whom follows in her footsteps and joins the Colonial Marines, the other aligning with the evil Weyland-Yutani Corporation. Eh, it's holding my attention.

Best part is, I learned from the list of Alien books inside that there exists "Aliens: The Official Cookbook" 😆 I assume a horrible version of the Turducken is offered. Darn right I've requested this from the library.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:43 AM (kpS4V)

80 I read that report as well. One thing that wasn't said, today's writing is different than Dickens' era. It was denser, and had longer sentences than today's Hemingwayesque writing. Throw in unfamiliar terms for items, then you have to stop and find out what it was before you understand what the allusions are. That can bog you down. Reading dense, long writing puts a strain on your attention span. If you don't know the events or things being referred to, you lose interest.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:34 AM (0eaVi)
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English majors should already be able to navigate Shakespeare. Dickens in his own day was regarded as a pedestrian writer, hence Evelyn Waugh's wicked ending to A Hand of Dust where a foolish upperclass guy is sentenced to read Dickens aloud to a blind man in the Amazon jungle forever.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)

81 @74 --

With some mysteries, I write out my own list of characters and their relationships. And as the killings continue, I strike through those names.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 09:43 AM (p/isN)

82 I just completed reading Thomas Sowell's "Ever Wonder Why - and Other Controversial Essays." The book was originally published in 2006 by, of course, the Hoover Institute. It's a compilation of Sowell's essays published in his syndicated column up to around 20 years ago.

Essay sections are divided as follows: Culture Wars, Economic Issues, Legal Issues, Political Issues, Educational Issues, Racial Issues. The last section is titled Random Thought, with short quotations from Sowell.

The book is an easy read because his columns were addressed to common people. Those people who read them were given a chance to think different than what the mass media was and still does brainwash them with.

Some essays are a bit repetitive but it was still a good libertarian refresher.

Do I personally agree with everything Sowell writes? Maybe not with 5%. But there are differences in time and circumstances which might explain that.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 09:43 AM (SLJQR)

83
I am seeking a lead on a copy of "Boom! Boom! Out Go The Lights!" by A. H. Khamenei.

Hard or soft cover (no e-books, please).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 09:44 AM (xG4kz)

84 About Helen McInnes - yes, very popular in the 50s and 60s - my mother had most of her books, and I replaced them when Mom and Dad's retirement place burned in 2003. I'd read most of her WWII-era stuff: Above Suspicion, While Still We Live and Assignment in Brittany. I didn't really get interested in her Cold War era stuff.

As for the bookshelves - I did a similar sliding-shelf system for DVDs in an entertainment unit in my house. Just last month, I bought a rotating bookshelf unit that I saw a demonstrated on Facebook - six feet tall, on a rotating base, and supposed to hold 300 books. It doesn't hold quite that much - but it packed a lot of my own books into a small and compact footprint. In spite of the height, it seems very stable, and even though built of bamboo wood, it's holding up well so far. I will send a pic of it to the Perfessor.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (Ew3fm)

85 Niven & Pournelle made a great team. Pournelle's solo work has usually bored me, for some reason. Niven, never, at least until recent years (he seems to have slipped a gear as he's gotten older).

If you like Mote, their Inferno, a 20th-century rewrite of Dante, is good, as are Footfall (alien invasion), Lucifer's Hammer (end of civilization), and with Steven Barnes, The Legacy of Heorot, a star-colonist story with a terrifying antagonist. You'd think a book with three authors would be a mishmash, but not this one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (omVj0)

86 “ the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.”’

Numbers 6:26

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (XYi+6)

87 I wonder how long it will be before Early Modern English is considered a separate language from contemporary English? We split off Middle English about 400-500 years ago.

My grandchildren may not be able to read Shakespeare.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (YaHeP)

88 As soon as I read that sentence I knew who was writing this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

I am a bit predictable.
I'm going to be flying back to MI soon with my mom for her 60th HS reunion. Not sure right now but I might be staying at my uncles house in Ann Arbor.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (LgDgc)

89 As soon as I read that sentence I knew who was writing this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

Me, too! And I'm not saying that like it's a bad thing, Reforger. I'm always impressed with your knowledge and skills, and am so grateful that there are people who know and understand these things.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (h7ZuX)

90 My Father's Day gift was a copy of "The Rules of the Game: Jutland and British Naval Command" by Andrew Gordon.

I need to buckle down and finish the last book I started so I can tackle this one. I've let my phone and/or iPad steal away too much of my time recently.

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (Dsfkc)

91 It is a great oversight that Thomas Sowell hasn't received the presidential medal of freedom.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (Vfq+S)

92
Reading dense, long writing puts a strain on your attention span.


I know, right?

-- committed readers of "graphic novels"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (xG4kz)

93 Tolle Lege
Not much reading this week in Rick Atkinson's The Day of the Battle, account of the Italian campaign in WWII.

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 09:47 AM (+qU29)

94 Killed at Resaca is still my favorite, about a lieutenant who unnecessarily exposed himself because his bitch fiance sent him a letter advising that another officer had called him a shirker.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 09:38 AM (ITkJX)
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My great-grandfather saved the letters he wrote to his wife during WW I. They met in the spring of 1917, got married fairly quickly and he was drafted and sent to France, making it in time to be in the Argonne.

Afterwards he was in the Army of Occupation and then assigned to Black Jack Pershing's parade unit. Surprisingly to us, morale was at rock bottom, even though they toured Europe. The reason was that in July 1919, word got out that the Army was holding back VD cases from demobilization, so all the guys in the unit started getting "Dear John" letters!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:47 AM (ZOv7s)

95 Mostly did some rereads this week
I did add a new author to my to read pile, Drew Hayes, as I saw a rec for his Fred the Vampire Accountant series

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 22, 2025 09:48 AM (Splbu)

96 Would love to see properly-done films based on Footfall, Lucifer's Hammer, and Legacy of Heorot -- they'd need to be mini-series, because those books would need more than 2-1/2 hours running time. But these days, those series would probably be screwed up. Some day, maybe.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:49 AM (q3u5l)

97 "Aliens: The Cookbook"?

I'm guessing the cornbread recipe isn't very good.

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2025 09:50 AM (Dsfkc)

98 I am a bit predictable.
I'm going to be flying back to MI soon with my mom for her 60th HS reunion. Not sure right now but I might be staying at my uncles house in Ann Arbor.
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (LgDgc)
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I'm sure that when people see a text wall they know it is me.

Ann Arbor, eh? Small world. There's a gun shop and restaurant in New Hudson (Huron Valley Guns) if you want a side quest. Nice indoor range. I could bring a few things.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

99 Listening to book 13 of The Wheel of Time: Towers of Midnight. I've got about 8 1/2 hours to go...

Posted by: lin-duh at June 22, 2025 09:51 AM (VCgbV)

100 The poor souls who couldn't handle seven paragraphs of Bleak House should demand a refund of whatever their parents paid in taxes to cover their K-12. They started college without being even close to prepared for it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:41 AM (q3u5l)

I basically thought that's what I was saying. Kids today aren't taught that type of writing anymore. The reading list has gone from classics to DEI. How would you expect things to turn out?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (0eaVi)

101 Reforger,

OT but PnP machines are a bitch.

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (W23tn)

102 I thought I had read most translations of Homer but I found one new to me: George Chapman's Homer. Chapman wrote during Shakespeare's time, late Elizabethan to early 1600s, and his writing reflects that. Careful meter and rhyme, erudite allusions, elevated word choice, and clever, emotional resonance that slowly becomes apparent as you continue to read. His use of meter enhances the idea of Homer being read as a chant more than just flat prose.

My favorite translation has been Fagles' for its power and modern access. But Chapman's evokes, for me, echoes of aeolian flutes and lyres playing behind the words. The elevated tone seems appropriate for Homer and his importance to Western literature. It's not a replacement for Fagles but adds layers of richness.

It was Chapman's versions that inspired John Keats' poem that begins with:
"Much have I travell'd in the realms of gold,
And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;"

Pretty high praise.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (yTvNw)

103 Still reading "Demon in White," by Christopher Ruocchio, which is the 3rd book in his 7 book "SunEater" series.

Last week there was much discussion of the Civil War battle of Franklin, and I mentioned a great fictionalized version of the story of that battle by Howard Bahr called "The Black Flower," which I recommend very highly.

Now I've discovered that Bahr wrote three novels related to the battle of Franklin, the second being "The Year of Jubilo" and the third "The Judas Field," so I downloaded both and will read them this week.

Glad you are enjoying Peter F Hamilton, Perfessor Squirrel.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (/RHNq)

104 I also have a Lincoln Child novel, The Third Gate, in my TBR pile; and All Our Yesterdays, a family saga from Robert B. Parker, which I read years ago. Parker was always good at telling a pure story; he didn't only stick with crime/detective or Westerns. He even wrote a young adult novel, Young Spenser, featuring the teen years in Wyoming of his Boston private eye. It contains a lot of bio information, linking up with hints Spenser dropped over the years in his book series, and is well done.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (omVj0)

105
The reason was that in July 1919, word got out that the Army was holding back VD cases from demobilization...


Have you any idea why this was considered (if not done)?

It sounds like something that that moralistic prig, Woodrow Wilson, would do for one or more specious reasons.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (xG4kz)

106 Me, too! And I'm not saying that like it's a bad thing, Reforger. I'm always impressed with your knowledge and skills, and am so grateful that there are people who know and understand these things.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (h7ZuX)
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The book thread in particular is where the "authorial voice" is more noticeable.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

107 “ the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.”’

Numbers 6:26

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2025 09:45 AM (XYi+6)
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From the Priestly Blessing, which here in Israel we receive from Aaron's descendants during every morning prayer service.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 09:53 AM (SLJQR)

108 Have you any idea why this was considered (if not done)?

It sounds like something that that moralistic prig, Woodrow Wilson, would do for one or more specious reasons.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (xG4kz)
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At the time, treatment was difficult, painful (and potentially lethal), so the idea was to protect the civilian population from an outbreak.

Remember, this was when the Navy banned alcohol, so there were plenty of woke flag officers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:55 AM (ZOv7s)

109 It is a great oversight that Thomas Sowell hasn't received the presidential medal of freedom.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (Vfq+S)
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Let's wait and see. The medal's reputation will now be restored.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 09:55 AM (SLJQR)

110 I am recalling some of the books we had as required reading in school.

A Separate Peace
The Bridge Over San Luis Rey
A Tale of Two Cities
MacBeth
Atlas Shrugged
Fahrenheit 451
Animal Farm

I can only imagine what is being foisted upon students now.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:55 AM (Vfq+S)

111 Would love to see properly-done films based on Footfall, Lucifer's Hammer, and Legacy of Heorot -- they'd need to be mini-series, because those books would need more than 2-1/2 hours running time. But these days, those series would probably be screwed up. Some day, maybe.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025

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Heorot
could be done as a 2.5 hour film. Footfall and Hammer, no, you'd need three to five episodes each.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 09:56 AM (omVj0)

112 Outies was written by Jerry's daughter, Jennifer Pournelle. It was written well before Jerry passed away.

Posted by: Hecataeus Of Miletus at June 22, 2025 09:56 AM (KaHlS)

113 Those bookshelves sound like prime material for another Crafting Thread.

Posted by: Another Anon at June 22, 2025 09:56 AM (4h45B)

114 I compiled a Dramatis Personae of people involved in China affairs between ~1900-1949 because the spelling of names and locations vary between Wade-Giles and pinyin. Confusing!

https://archive.org/details/list-of-characters-china

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 09:57 AM (Puvdf)

115 Wolfus, just bug the pubs. They've shown interest twice. Might was well follow through until they say they'll pass after all. Self pub has a dollar cost that the pubs eat.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:57 AM (0eaVi)

116 Persons Dramatae are done rather well by Pournelle and Niven in Lucifer’s Hammer. James Wesley Wesley, Rawles in his Survivor series’ too. When you have a bunch of characters milling around it’s nice to know who they are.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 09:57 AM (jgmnb)

117 It's been a long time since I looked at a high school literature textbook, a good 20 years at least. But even then it was far heavier on contemporary work than the ones I recalled from my own high school days. The ones I had in high school included some Dickens, Twain, Shakespeare, Hawthorne, and Henry James. And some of that struck me as a real slog at the time. But it was assigned and it was assumed that we could and would do the work.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 09:58 AM (q3u5l)

118 I can only imagine what is being foisted upon students now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 09:55 AM (Vfq+S)
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My freshman year in college The Education of Little Tree was all the rage and then of course it was written by a white supremacist. Oopsie!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

119 97 "Aliens: The Cookbook"?

I'm guessing the cornbread recipe isn't very good.
Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2025 09:50 AM (Dsfkc)
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Ha!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:58 AM (kpS4V)

120 Lucifer's Hammer would make a perfect mini-series with it's episodic timing.

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 09:59 AM (W23tn)

121 The book thread in particular is where the "authorial voice" is more noticeable.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

I couldn't point out exactly what it was, but I could always tell Captain Hate's posts before I saw his nic, too.

I hope they're having a book club in heaven.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 09:59 AM (h7ZuX)

122 My dad had the Pogo Peek a Book and I read it as a kid. I remember a disturbing image of Sen. Joe McCarthy as Lewis Carroll's Cheshire Cat, in that or another Pogo book.

Posted by: A former assistant greenskeeper...about to become...the Master's champion at June 22, 2025 09:59 AM (tRYqg)

123 The reason was that in July 1919, word got out that the Army was holding back VD cases from demobilization...

Have you any idea why this was considered (if not done)?

It sounds like something that that moralistic prig, Woodrow Wilson, would do for one or more specious reasons.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 09:52 AM (xG4kz)

Wilson, eh? It couldn't have been the soldiers' complexion, could it?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:00 AM (0eaVi)

124 One problem with seeking out new authors is that you sometimes get slapped in the face with new-author mistakes. I was reading a steampunk anthology by Raconteur Press when I encountered the worst info-dump I've ever seen. One character started explaining a city to another character, and it was the most stilted, unnatural dialogue imaginable. I read a few sentences, rolled my eyes, and then hit the next-page button. (I was reading on a kindle) The entire next page was a single wall of text! One continuous, unbroken paragraph, continued from the previous page, and continuing onto the next. I didn't read a word of it, I just laughed. The explanation didn't end until halfway through page 3. Had it started at the right point, it would have covered 2 entire pages. Stunning.

The crazy part is that the author was otherwise good at sprinkling bits of world-building into conversations, and then dropping a 2-sentence explanation of some new reference. But in this one scene, the author just lost control. He had developed his backstory, and darnit he was going to tell it to us! All for his tiny little one-shot short story...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 10:00 AM (Lhaco)

125 122 I forgot to change my nic from another thread.

Posted by: Norrin Radd at June 22, 2025 10:00 AM (tRYqg)

126 good morning Perfessor, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 22, 2025 10:01 AM (S+xxD)

127 The pictured shelves are neat! But I'd probably overload the front doors and weigh them down to the point where they would be hard to slide...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 10:01 AM (Lhaco)

128 “One continuous, unbroken paragraph, continued from the previous page, and continuing onto the next.”

Maybe it sounded better in the original German.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 10:02 AM (EVFZ5)

129 so grateful that there are people who know and understand these things.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 09:46 AM (h7ZuX)

Me too. I call them a lot.

I get the "You seem to know things. Go fix that." A lot.
My response usually being "okay. What is it and where are the manuals."
Told my new boss Friday that half of mechanican is networking because nobody knows all this shit but probably knows somebody who knows somebody who does.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 10:03 AM (LgDgc)

130 Just finished William Alan Webb's latest offering in his Last Brigade series ( Book 8 "Standing Awash in Tears" )

It's a continuation of the series, if you liked the others, you'll like this one. He does introduce the Big Bad Guy in this one ( think of a certain Hungarian oligarch ) , but there is no resolution, and he has already announced a Book 9, to be published next year.

This one had the same shortcomings as his previous books, i.e, TOO MANY STINKING TYPOS, GEEZ BILL GET A COPY EDITOR!!!!.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 10:03 AM (PiwSw)

131 I also have a Lincoln Child novel, The Third Gate, in my TBR pile;

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


The Third Gate is a good story, a little reminiscent of The Ice Limit that he wrote with Douglas Preston, in terms of a wealthy man who could spend large sums to buy the best technology and people to try and acquire something that is supposed to be out of reach. It captures your imagination.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 10:03 AM (Vfq+S)

132 “One continuous, unbroken paragraph, continued from the previous page, and continuing onto the next.”

Maybe it sounded better in the original German.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 10:02 AM (EVFZ5)
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This is why I'm not looking a much new work (reference books excluded). There are tons of great authors that I have yet to read, so why take a chance on some woke retard when I have five Graham Greene books plus more St. Augustine waiting to be rerad?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

133 The crazy part is that the author was otherwise good at sprinkling bits of world-building into conversations, and then dropping a 2-sentence explanation of some new reference. But in this one scene, the author just lost control. He had developed his backstory, and darnit he was going to tell it to us! All for his tiny little one-shot short story...
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 10:00 AM (Lhaco)

Don't look at me. They've never accepted any of my work. I durn shore wouldn't do something like a two page info-dump.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:04 AM (0eaVi)

134
I read, probably what is PKD's best novel, "The Three Stigmata of Eldritch Palmer" last week.

What a fun read! It's a wild amalgam of PKD's big themes -what is reality, what does it mean to be human, love, life, what is God, all neatly wrapped up into an oddball mystery/thriller type construct that proceeds logically(within it's world to the end).

The story concerns a competition between two drugs. One, Can-D allows people to live an alternate life for a short time. It's used by pioneers on Mars and elsewhere to relieve the boredom and smallness of their lives. The other drug, Chew-Z, allows you to "create your own world" for a short time, and was brought back from another planet by billionaire, Eldritch Palmer but seems to have side-effects.

One thing that PKD does that I love, and that I totally agree with as a writer, is that he wraps his ideas into the story. That is the philosophizing is wrapped into the action, characters, and story and never stated directly to the reader as a message as a lesser writer might do. To read the story is to see the ideas at play in "reality".

Definitely check it out.


Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 10:05 AM (iJfKG)

135 I forgot to change my nic from another thread.
Posted by: Norrin Radd at June 22, 2025 10:00 AM (tRYqg)

How's the book coming?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:05 AM (0eaVi)

136 I've been reading an increasing amount of poetry lately, everything from classics to Chesterton, Tolkien, Robert Service, Kipling, and Poe. But some modern poets sneak in as I follow various rabbit holes, Malcolm Guite, Wendell Berry, and now Luci Shaw and Mary Oliver. One thing that has struck me is that they all have a Christian resonance even when it isn't explicit. More on the order of finding wonder and inspiration through God's creation and our place in it. It's often subtle, sometimes obscure, but that aspects adds depths to the poetry that plays with the reader.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 10:07 AM (yTvNw)

137 @124 --

Phil Foglio's comic TPB "Buck Godot: Zap Gun for Hire" began with two or three pages of illustrated text backstory about New Hong Kong, the planet where Buck lives. (Short version: NHK has no laws.) None of it had any bearing on the stories themselves.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 10:08 AM (p/isN)

138
I am recalling some of the books we had as required reading in school.

The Bridge Over San Luis Rey
Atlas Shrugged
Fahrenheit 451
A Separate Peace
A Tale of Two Cities
MacBeth
The Illustrated Man
Julius Caesar
Great Expectations
Pere Goriot
Job (KJV)
The Admirable Crichton
Lord of the Flies
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
The Pearl
Crime and Punishment
Oliver Twist
Cry, the Beloved Country
Animal Farm


I read practically everything written by Samuel L. Clemens for a semester-long term paper that was required of us for sophomore English class (my topic was that he was a social historian through things of which he wrote in nearly all his works).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:09 AM (xG4kz)

139 I went back to an old standard for comic book reading: "Conan the Barbarian Omnibus 9" featuring issues 214-240, from 1989-91. It was...disappointing. Not bad, because it didn't have any story elements that were actively bad, like so many other stories today. But it also lacked anything that was actively good. It was just bland. Most of the stories reduced Conan to the most generic tropes of sword and sorcery: a guy with a sword wanders the wilderness between ancient cities, encounters something bad and wrecks it, and then moves on, unchanged by the experience. It's a perfectly serviceable story structure, that I have often enjoyed. I just expect more from Conan the Barbarian. But at least the art was good!

I place the blame on the comic running too long. By that point, it was probably just published because they had been publishing it for the past 20 years. For everyone at the office, it was just another job. No one working on the comic seemed to understand what makes Conan special. Kinda sad. But at least Omnibus 10 (the final one of the series) features the return of Roy Thomas, the guy who first wrote Conan into comic books. He should do the character justice.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 10:09 AM (Lhaco)

140 Those shelves are really nice, 3 sets deep planning for content & visual appear. Even the 'concealed' ones are easily accessible.

I did some work at a big pharma company that had a room of high density store shelves. Similar concept except entire walls could move. About 80% of the area could store files or books. No one would ever want to see this in a public space or non storage area.

Posted by: Hecataeus Of Miletus at June 22, 2025 10:10 AM (KaHlS)

141 Morning all! Hope everyone had a wonderful summer solstice.

My local library has kicked off their Summer Reading Challenge: 2000 minutes from June 2 until August 2. Should be doable, just have to find the book I can’t put down.

Posted by: March Hare at June 22, 2025 10:10 AM (X4jy3)

142 Put simply, the movie doesn't make sense without it. You can enjoy its absence because you can fill in the gaps. A first-time viewer would be utterly lost.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)

Good point; I always enjoyed Kubrick’s “2001” because I knew Clarke’s story well before I saw it; so I had no problem with all the weirdness towards the end.
Btw, the last bit of Farscape did the best homage to 2001 I’ve ever seen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 10:11 AM (EVFZ5)

143
Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.

- A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:13 AM (xG4kz)

144 Twain's essay "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" is still one of the most hilarious hatchet jobs in all of literature.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 10:15 AM (q3u5l)

145 "I didn't steal Alien from anybody. I stole it from everybody!" --- Dan O'Bannon

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 10:15 AM (kpS4V)

146 13 "The Future Was Now: Madmen, Mavericks, and the Epic Sci-Fi Summer of 1982" by Chris Nashawaty is about the year that gave us E.T., Tron, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kan, Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, and The Road Warrior.

I saw every one of these masterpieces. Remember going to the movies almost every week? I do.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (kpS

And by contrast, most internet commentators are expecting to struggle to see even one good sci-fi/genre movie this year! How the mighty have fallen...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 10:16 AM (Lhaco)

147 My local library has kicked off their Summer Reading Challenge: 2000 minutes from June 2 until August 2. Should be doable, just have to find the book I can’t put down.

Posted by: March Hare



You could achieve that with one book, the hardback annotated War and Peace. Oh, wait. That is a book you can't pick up.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 10:16 AM (Vfq+S)

148 Good Morning and thank you, Perfessor, for the Book Thread.

I attempted to read Dorchester Girl by Judith Kirwan Kelly, a memoir about growing up in Boston’s Dorchester neighborhood in the 50’s and 60’s. Although the book is sprinkled with interesting historical tidbits, the rest of the stories were rather tiresome and I found the self-righteous tone mildly irritating. When I got to the part where the author made sure we knew that she and her husband are LGBT allies, I gave up.

Instead, I picked up Geraldine Brook’s People of the Book. It has lots of twists and turns. So far, I’m enjoying it.

Posted by: KatieFloyd at June 22, 2025 10:17 AM (UDpcu)

149 I don't post enough to sock.
Off Hecataeus off

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at June 22, 2025 10:18 AM (KaHlS)

150
You could achieve that with one book, the hardback annotated War and Peace. Oh, wait. That is a book you can't pick up.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


That is particularly true in its original Sumerian.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:18 AM (xG4kz)

151 My local library has kicked off their Summer Reading Challenge: 2000 minutes from June 2 until August 2. Should be doable, just have to find the book I can’t put down.
Posted by: March Hare at June 22, 2025 10:10 AM (X4jy3)


Fun DIY Projects using SuperGlue?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 10:18 AM (PiwSw)

152 If you've seen It! The Terror from Beyond Space, you've got a pretty good idea of Alien. Alien had a much bigger budget and much better effects, but still. Wonder if Jerome Bixby saw any $$$ when Alien came out.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 10:18 AM (q3u5l)

153 Ann Arbor, eh? Small world. There's a gun shop and restaurant in New Hudson (Huron Valley Guns) if you want a side quest. Nice indoor range. I could bring a few things.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

Sounds like the beginning of a plan.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 10:19 AM (LgDgc)

154 The Wrath of Khan was a redemption because I made my buddies see the first movie, and they,...did not like it. No one liked it. It made Star Trek suck.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 10:21 AM (RIvkX)

155 Reading comprehension study.
This is also my experience as well at the University where I don't work anymore except for when I need bier money. I usually teach 300 level business classes.
Ugh!
If it isn't in a vid, they don't get it.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 10:22 AM (W/lyH)

156
As someone who lived in Michigan for two decades by in the day, there are two things I can state without shame.

I have never visited the University of Michigan, nor have I ever visited downtown Detroit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:22 AM (xG4kz)

157 The Wrath of Khan was a redemption because I made my buddies see the first movie, and they,...did not like it. No one liked it. It made Star Trek suck.

Posted by: San Franpsycho


I have to point out that the best Star Trek movie ever made was Galaxy Quest.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 10:23 AM (Vfq+S)

158
"... back in the day ..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:23 AM (xG4kz)

159 If you've seen It! The Terror from Beyond Space, you've got a pretty good idea of Alien. Alien had a much bigger budget and much better effects, but still. Wonder if Jerome Bixby saw any $$$ when Alien came out.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 10:18 AM (q3u5l)


Well, that and "Planet of the Vampires". It seems like Bannon stole scenes pretty much directly from that Italian Sci-Fi flick.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 10:24 AM (iJfKG)

160
Well the garden beds' plaintive cries to "Weed us!" have overpowered the sound of the air conditioning, so it's off to the killing fields for me.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:25 AM (xG4kz)

161 Liked Stranger in a Strange Land but I thought it was overrated. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and the other Lazarus Long stories by Heinlein I really liked. The Hamilton books are excellent but very long

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 10:26 AM (IG2sK)

162 I haven't re-read Stranger by Heinlein since I was in my twenties. It's was readable, as Heinlein usually is, but I wasn't overwhelmed. I wonder what I'd think of it now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 10:27 AM (omVj0)

163 Finished "Goodbye Dr. Banda" this week and highly recommend it. He describes Malawi without going the noble savage, route or the colonial oppressor route and instead gives what seems to be a clear-eyed view of the country.

Posted by: who knew at June 22, 2025 10:27 AM (+ViXu)

164 Heinlein Juveniles are best Heinlein.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 10:27 AM (PiwSw)

165
Ann Arbor, eh? Small world. There's a gun shop and restaurant in New Hudson (Huron Valley Guns) if you want a side quest. Nice indoor range. I could bring a few things.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 22, 2025 09:51 AM

Sounds like the beginning of a plan.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 10:19 AM


it would not be the first time there was a mini-MoMe at Huron Valley Guns...

HVG is proximate to the New Hudson Inn what makes a really good bar-burger

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 22, 2025 10:28 AM (tljrc)

166 This makes me want to read Bleak House, one of the few Dickens novels I never tried.

One trick, apparently forgotten by most English majors at Midwestern universities, is to read Dickens aloud. It helps.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 10:29 AM (xcxpd)

167 Almost forgot -- my book find for the last couple of weeks. Subterranean Press collection of Silverberg's work, Phases of the Moon: Stories of Six Decades, signed by Silverberg, for a steal of a price at $30 after shipping. Did I grab it even though I'm not trying to add much in the way of physical books to the shelves now? Oh, hell, yeah.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 10:29 AM (q3u5l)

168 A general observation. I enjoy collections of correspondence from writers I admire, especially if the letters are between two specific authors. Besides the usual collections from CS Lewis (very entertaining) and Tolkien, I have books with correspondence between EB White and Edmund Ware Smith, Rudyard Kipling to Rider Haggard, and Robert Howard and Lovecraft. As I already admire their writing, the correspondence can be revealing, adding to my enjoyment of the books. The tone may include being chatty, go into matters of deep philosophy, discuss ongoing projects, and often involves a level of humor you wouldn't expect. (Some of the letters between White and Ware are hilarious.)

Given the lack of physical correspondence these ephemeral digital days, I doubt there will be fewer such collections. That's sad and a loss.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 10:29 AM (yTvNw)

169 158
"... back in the day ..."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:23 AM (xG4kz)

I work with a bunch of kids that I tell "back in the day" stories to. I usually end them with something like "and that how we did things in the 80's" as I skip to the end and insist I forgot what really happened in between because "if you remember the 80's you weren't really there".

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 10:29 AM (LgDgc)

170 My local library has kicked off their Summer Reading Challenge: 2000 minutes from June 2 until August 2. Should be doable, just have to find the book I can’t put down.
Posted by: March Hare at June 22, 2025 10:10 AM (X4jy3)

Ha! I thought it said 200 minutes. That wouldn't be much of a challenge.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:30 AM (0eaVi)

171 38 Greatly amused to see you feature the Pogo Peek a Book - my dad left behind a collection of those from the 50’s. Funny, and some amazingly sharp political satire right in the heart of the Cold War. Too bad he’s mostly forgotten now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:18 AM (EVFZ5)

I only heard of Pogo when he was referenced by Bill Waterson as a major inspiration for Calvin and Hobbes.

On the other hand, just imagine how he would be being bastardized if he was remembered. Character changes, reboots designed specifically to undermine everything that made the original character enduring...Some properties are better left alone.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 22, 2025 10:30 AM (Lhaco)

172 The Wrath of Khan was a redemption because I made my buddies see the first movie, and they,...did not like it. No one liked it. It made Star Trek suck.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 10:21 AM (RIvkX)

It was The Menagerie, writ large. Too cerebral, as the network people might say. Not enough action.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:31 AM (0eaVi)

173 But I did read a new book this week.
Trailer Park Elves.
Arch (on youtube) reviewed it and it tickled me. And the elf on the cover is hawt.

It's LitRPG genre, which I'm not a fan of....though I do play RPGs. But it's pretty good, it's not concerned with epic quests or Dark Lords, it's a normie tech worker from Texas who gets zapped into...a trailer park, where he has to work as the manager. It has the trappings of a quest system, including leveling up. And most of the book is just getting errands done and fixing broken stuff.

The fixing stuff what appeals to me. (all right, and the hawt elves)

I would put it more accurately in the genre of 'man fixes stuff and gets pussy'. It takes a while for the sex to start but once it does, the book (and series) takes a turn towards porn. But if that doesn't scare you off, it's fun. Dunno if I'll bother reading the whole series or not, but the first book was worth the money.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 10:33 AM (xcxpd)

174 On that happy note, it's off for an afternoon of overeating and annoying assorted in-laws. Will come back this evening to read over all the nifty comments I'll miss in real time.

Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 22, 2025 10:33 AM (q3u5l)

175 Well the garden beds' plaintive cries to "Weed us!" have overpowered the sound of the air conditioning, so it's off to the killing fields for me.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 22, 2025 10:25 AM (xG4kz)

Have fun. I just pulled out all my tomato plants a few minutes ago. Brown leaf everywhere.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 10:33 AM (0eaVi)

176 Heinlein Juveniles are best Heinlein.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025


***
I'll agree, if you count Door Into Summer as a juvenile, and leave Podkayne of Mars off the list. It's hard to beat Have Space Suit -- Will Travel by any metric, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 10:34 AM (omVj0)

177 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is very relevant today because of the possible rise of AI. Great story that also deals with how human societies might adapt to strange conditions. Another book along those lines is Voyage from Yesteryear, by James Hogan.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at June 22, 2025 10:35 AM (kCBPn)

178 You may be familiar with Sherri Papini, the California Gone Girl who faked her own kidnapping in order to be with her former boyfriend. She was convicted of providing false information to law enforcement and spent a short time in prison. Well, it's just a shame to commit big publicity crimes without a paycheck so, ca-ching!, she’s written a book in which she may have lied a little but the real bad guys are her husband, her boyfriend, the police, and, well, everybody else. Sherri Papini Doesn't Exist: The Lie That Defined Me, the Media That Destroyed Me, and the Truth That No One Heard

https://is.gd/OTA11K

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 10:36 AM (L/fGl)

179 Decided to reread the Empire of Ashes trilogy (aka Dahak trilogy) by David Weber for the umpteenzillionth time. The first 2 books are excellent but the third book isn't, mainly due to the very contrived "primary" plot. The "secondary" plot was good and obviously served as the inspiration (along with other books from the genre) for his Off Armageddon Reef series. I understand the primary plot's main purpose was to put the secondary plot in motion and then the author had to tie up the primary plot, but the entire thing was just...ugh.

Posted by: Farquad at June 22, 2025 10:37 AM (YkGND)

180 Probably the weirdest book story I have is that I came upon a book of strange mystery stories as a child. One of the stories was about a man who kidnapped a group of school children, and held them for ransom in a school bus that he had buried on his property to avoid their discovery.

A few years later, the Chowchilla kidnapping took place, and it was the biggest deja vu of my life.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 10:37 AM (Vfq+S)

181 "I would put it more accurately in the genre of 'man fixes stuff and gets pussy'."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 10:33 AM (xcxpd)

So.. fantasy. Because I do the fixing thing but...

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 10:38 AM (LgDgc)

182 I've probably mentioned this before, but an excellent edition of Bleak House is the Everyman's Library edition. Well-made hardback book, sewn bindings, attached silk bookmark, acid-free paper, good typography, and what I appreciate most, a list of all the characters appearing in the book with a short description.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 10:40 AM (PiwSw)

183 When did Barry Smith, early Conan artist, add Windsor to his last name.
Got a couple of the original comics in basement somewhere and he is just Barry Smith.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 22, 2025 10:41 AM (n4GiU)

184 The idea that English majors lack reading skills doesn't surprise me and isn't recent. I was an English major in the early 70s and had a chance to talk with some English majors visiting from Harvard. For all Harvard's reputation, the depths of their exposure and comprehension was shallow, shockingly so. Chaucer, even Shakespeare, Coleridge, and Tennyson were barely tapped. Forget Old and Middle English. But they knew about Sylvia Plath and other such crap.

Like the rest of the country, I grew up with the assumption that an Ivy League school was the pinnacle of education, especially for the humanities. Boy was that wrong. My opinion of them has only declined since then.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 10:42 AM (yTvNw)

185 The Mote In God's Eye was the first science fiction novel I ever read, and it jump-started my life-long love of the genre.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2025 10:43 AM (/RHNq)

186 Citizen of the Galaxy remains my favorite Heinlein.
I'll third or fourth that his Juveniles are his best.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at June 22, 2025 10:43 AM (KaHlS)

187 181 "I would put it more accurately in the genre of 'man fixes stuff and gets pussy'."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 10:33 AM (xcxpd)

So.. fantasy. Because I do the fixing thing but...
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 10:38 AM (LgDgc)

Yes, pure escapism

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 10:45 AM (xcxpd)

188 I always enjoyed Kubrick’s “2001”

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Why HAL went crazy. 9 minute YT.

https://is.gd/PVoj6M

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 10:47 AM (L/fGl)

189 there was an old colombo episode with Jack Cassidy, who plays the co writer of a mystery series,who kills his partner,
it turns out his plan was fool proof, except the notion had given to his partner, five years before, it was a spielberg directed episode,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 10:48 AM (bXbFr)

190 Gonna head out for a walk before the mercury hits Surface of Mercury.

Thanks for the Book Thread, Perf!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 22, 2025 10:48 AM (kpS4V)

191 Almost but not quite too late for the book thread?

🎵Sickness will surely take the mind
Where minds don't usually go… -Who

My dreams lately have been strong and complex, but there's never anything to pull out of them. I wake up thinking, that would be an interesting story, but when I remember it, it's just confusing and random, no plot or story, really, just meandering characters.

I did have one funny dream the other night. I was standing watching the front doors of a building and people were coming out. A fellow came out and turned left, and I began to imagine his story, then a woman came out and turned right and I began to think of her story, then a couple walked out… and so on. They were just coming out too fast and frequently for my mind to come up with their stories.

But I bet they would have been interesting.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dreamy daze at June 22, 2025 10:48 AM (63lGh)

192 Dickens' prose would be unfamiliar to modern ears to be sure, but its meaning should be easily discernable to any proficient reader, especially an English major. I fear for the future of the race...as Aunt Agatha would say.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 22, 2025 10:49 AM (XMwZJ)

193 Growing up read most all of Arthur C Clarke's books I could get my hands on. For 'new' books Niven & Pournelle, and Tom Clancy occupied a good decade where anything published was an automatic buy & read.

No recent fiction author is on my automatic list.
I do have some non-fiction authors in this category though.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at June 22, 2025 10:51 AM (KaHlS)

194 I've been reading/listening-to P.G. Wodehouse books. That guy cracks me up...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 22, 2025 10:51 AM (XMwZJ)

195 there was an old colombo episode with Jack Cassidy, who plays the co writer of a mystery series,who kills his partner,
it turns out his plan was fool proof, except the notion had given to his partner, five years before, it was a spielberg directed episode,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025


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The first episode of the series when it was part of the NBC Mystery Movie. It's been said that Steven Bochco had the Ellery Queen cousins in mind when he penned it. They worked together for more than forty years, and argued continually over that time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 10:53 AM (omVj0)

196 Niven and Pournelle also collaborated on "Lucifer’s Hammer," which a lot of us here are aware of and have read. Most don't know they also wrote a modern version of Dante's Inferno, which they called "Inferno," naturally. It's a very fun and creative rewriting, with a recently deceased science fiction writer trying to navigate Hell with the assistance of another shade.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2025 10:54 AM (/RHNq)

197 One of the stories was about a man who kidnapped a group of school children, and held them for ransom in a school bus that he had buried on his property to avoid their discovery.

A few years later, the Chowchilla kidnapping took place, and it was the biggest deja vu of my life.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2025 10:37 AM (Vfq+S)

Wow...creepy.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 10:54 AM (h7ZuX)

198 I had a friend present me with a book on Thomas Paine. "Thomas Paine, Enlightenment, Revolution, and the Birth of Modern Nations" by Craig Nelson.

My friend currently lives in England. Many years ago when I lived, and worked, in London he brought me to a place called "South Place Ethical Society". It had been a Unitary church but became freethought organization, replacing the Crucifix with a bust of Thomas Paine.

We were reminiscing on the phone a couple of months ago and the subject came up. He surprised with the gift. Good friend.

Posted by: javems at June 22, 2025 10:59 AM (8I4hW)

199 Niven and Pournelle also collaborated on "Lucifer’s Hammer," which a lot of us here are aware of and have read. Most don't know they also wrote a modern version of Dante's Inferno, which they called "Inferno," naturally. It's a very fun and creative rewriting, with a recently deceased science fiction writer trying to navigate Hell with the assistance of another shade.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2025


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Niven tells the story that, once they got into the writing of the text on Inferno, they hustled it along in record time. Not because they were hacks -- but because the environment was so unpleasant. They wanted OUT!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 11:00 AM (omVj0)

200 thanks the first time I had seen it. I've seen plenty of episodes with Patrick McGoohan, his stock villain,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025 11:00 AM (bXbFr)

201 thanks the first time I had seen it. I've seen plenty of episodes with Patrick McGoohan, his stock villain,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 22, 2025


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Both Cassidy and Robert Culp appeared multiple times as murderers on Columbo too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 11:02 AM (omVj0)

202 My personal favs of the Arthurian Legends were written by Mary Stewart. The Hollow Hills, The Crystal Cave, etc.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 11:06 AM (W/lyH)

203 Enjoying James Scott's "Black Snow", about the B-29 campaign against Japan in 1945. Some of it familiar ground, but a lot new to me on the key personalities involved. Curtis LeMay emerges as another of those WWII leaders who seemed made for their role.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 11:06 AM (1m82a)

204 Welp. Dog food isn't going to cook itself.

Have a lovely Sunday, horde, maybe see you at dinnertime.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 22, 2025 11:06 AM (h7ZuX)

205 In the later years of Columbo, McGoohan became a co/producer of the show along with Peter Falk. The two of them became great friends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 11:08 AM (EVFZ5)

206 I'm reading air compressor manuals.

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I laughed. I cried.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 11:09 AM (L/fGl)

207 196 Niven and Pournelle also collaborated on "Lucifer’s Hammer," which a lot of us here are aware of and have read. Most don't know they also wrote a modern version of Dante's Inferno, which they called "Inferno," naturally. It's a very fun and creative rewriting, with a recently deceased science fiction writer trying to navigate Hell with the assistance of another shade.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2025 10:54 AM (/RHNq)
It’s a quick read too, because you’ ve already read it .

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 11:12 AM (jgmnb)

208 Off the top of my head, I can only think of Larry Bond's "Vortex" when it comes to novels with a dramatis personae.

That novel is bloody awesome. The RSA goes full tilt in this one. A moderate government (such as de Klerk's) gets blown up, quite literally, on a train. A new government takes over which amps up apartheid policies to 11 and 12. The RSA's new government also begins picking fights with neighbors, specifically invading Namibia. It goes well...until Cuba intervenes. Then the United States enters the conflict. That's just the 30,000 ft view; there are a lot more intricacies to it. I read it when I was 17 and absolutely loved it. Sure, it's dated, as the Soviet Union features - somewhat - but still, a fun read, filled with lying, betraying and backstabbing.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 11:15 AM (vm8sq)

209 OT
Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (DNJiU)

210 184 The idea that English majors lack reading skills doesn't surprise me and isn't recent. I was an English major in the early 70s and had a chance to talk with some English majors visiting from Harvard. For all Harvard's reputation, the depths of their exposure and comprehension was shallow, shockingly so. Chaucer, even Shakespeare, Coleridge, and Tennyson were barely tapped. Forget Old and Middle English. But they knew about Sylvia Plath and other such crap.

Like the rest of the country, I grew up with the assumption that an Ivy League school was the pinnacle of education, especially for the humanities. Boy was that wrong. My opinion of them has only declined since then.
Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 10:42 AM (yTvNw)

Same. They and other universities have been coasting on rep for quite some time now.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (vm8sq)

211 Niven and Pournelle also collaborated on "Lucifer’s Hammer," which a lot of us here are aware of and have read. Most don't know they also wrote a modern version of Dante's Inferno, which they called "Inferno," naturally. It's a very fun and creative rewriting, with a recently deceased science fiction writer trying to navigate Hell with the assistance of another shade.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2025 10:54 AM (/RHNq)
It’s a quick read too, because you’ ve already read it .
Posted by: Eromero

They also collaborated on "The Mote in God's Eye" and "Footfall".

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (13Txl)

212 OT
Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (DNJiU)


Source?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 22, 2025 11:21 AM (/HDaX)

213 212 OT
Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (DNJiU)

Source?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 22, 2025 11:21 AM (/HDaX)
Iran?

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 11:25 AM (jgmnb)

214 Iran closes Strait, Europe surrenders.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 11:27 AM (0eaVi)

215 Gotta cut out early. Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 11:27 AM (0eaVi)

216 209 OT
Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (DNJiU)

With what?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 11:28 AM (vm8sq)

217 What do they close it with?

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 11:28 AM (jgmnb)

218 As I tightened the last nut to the specified torque value of 67 foot pounds I saw her. She was adorned in only a black bra and panties framed in a halo in the door of my shop. He hair seemed to glow. I could feel the energy between us. She approached with a sultry step as I reacherd for my 10 millimeter socket wrench.
"Uh. I have to put this away or I'll never find it again." I said.
"Oh I just love a man who knows where his 10mm is." She cooed as I slipped it into the top drawer of my MAC tool box.
I turned as she tried to slip into my arms. I side stepped her as I was covered in grease.
"I should wash up and finish filling out this work order."
"NO!" she cried. "Take me here, now. Incomplete paperwork so turns me on. I must have you."
This happens so often I have grown weary of all this sex. I know what they are doing. Trying to get some free mechanic work but I do them and charge them anyway. Five maybe six time a day and at least twice on Saturday where I charge time and a half. Throught it all I still keep a possitive professional attitude.
It's a rough life but someone has to live it. Might as well be me.

Posted by: Reforger writes at June 22, 2025 11:29 AM (LgDgc)

219 216 209 OT
Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (DNJiU)

With what?
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 11:28 AM (vm8sq)

217 What do they close it with?
Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 11:28 AM (jgmnb)
Their mouths. Bbbaaaaagghgghh!!!

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 11:30 AM (jgmnb)

220 @80 - The Waugh book is A Handful of Dust which was a college reading assignment for me.
When I read The Legacy of Heorot, started it right after dinner one evening; the first ninety pages were slow, but then it got interesting enough that I finished it around 3 AM. Lent it to my then-boss and told him not to start it too late. A few days later, he came in looking like death warmed over. I said, 'You started the book last night, right?' and he just said, 'I couldn't put it down'.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 11:31 AM (NcvvS)

221 Posted by: Reforger writes at June 22, 2025 11:29 AM (LgDgc)

LOL! Nicely done.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 22, 2025 11:32 AM (0aYVJ)

222 I am re-reading The Legend of Bagger Vance and Ann Coulter's How to Talk to a Liberal.

I wish I could find a book I haven't read that grabs me. So far im 0-5 in my attempts. I'm 0-2 with Conn Iggulden.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)

223 Posted by: Reforger writes at June 22, 2025 11:29 AM (LgDgc)

You're really going to enjoy Trailer Park Elves.
Especially when the half dragon girl gets turned on by how the main character removes rusted lug nuts.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 22, 2025 11:35 AM (xcxpd)

224 I discovered Inspector "Jack" Frost, a crumudgeon chief inspector who despite slovenly personal and work habits manages to solve the case. BBC did a series in the 1990s. I was surprised by the BBC series compared to the books in two ways. First, several of the characters had been transformed from male to female even back then for no apparent reason and second, much of the complexity had been simplified. For example, his boss wants to get rid of him so when a no win investigation involving the son of a prominent politician arises, he assigns Frost. The BBC left all that out and Frost is just assigned in the normal course of events. This may be because of time constraints but certainly impairs character development and plot. Anyway, I'm enjoying the books.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 11:41 AM (L/fGl)

225 I found the Dramatis Personae very helpful when I (attempted to) read War and Peace. Besides a ton of characters, it didn't help that the same character could be called Natalya, Natasha, Natalie... depending on who is speaking and what language is being spoken.

One day I'll get back to it. Does the Horde have a recommended translation? My Russian is pretty much limited to useful phrases such as "Yob tvoyu mat".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 11:41 AM (qpyNK)

226 *It's a rough life but someone has to live it. Might as well be me.*

I've been watching jealousy from above the pegboard.

Posted by: The Ridgid tool calendar at June 22, 2025 11:43 AM (lIgBp)

227 > Natalya, Natasha, Natalie...

Also Natalushka and probably some others I've forgotten.

Fond of nicknames, the Russians are.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 11:44 AM (qpyNK)

228 The only thing I didn't like about dramatis personnae was that it was easy to spoil suprises in a book. Just the existence of a particular entry could be a spoiler.

Posted by: Farquad at June 22, 2025 11:44 AM (YkGND)

229 You're really going to enjoy Trailer Park Elves.
Especially when the half dragon girl gets turned on by how the main character removes rusted lug nuts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 22, 2025 11:35 AM (xcxpd)

Got the wife looking it up now.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 11:45 AM (LgDgc)

230 Baen had a series of urban fantasy novels called the Serrated Edge. Titles such as Summoned to Tourney and Chrome Circle.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:47 AM (sZI8v)

231 "To The Hilt" and "Full Tang."

Posted by: Also receiving votes at June 22, 2025 11:49 AM (lIgBp)

232 > Trailer Park Elves.

For a moment I thought you were talking about Larry Correia's Monster Hunters International series.

His elves live in trailer parks and listen to shit-kick country music. Orcs are metal heads. Gnomes are urban gangstas.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 11:49 AM (qpyNK)

233 Harem type anime set during the time of the Roman occupation of Britain. It exists and just to make things more weird, there is a Demon King along with Arthur.

Tears to Tiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COKG8HaDKd0

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 11:50 AM (sZI8v)

234 I've been watching jealousy from above the pegboard.
Posted by: The Ridgid tool calendar at June 22, 2025 11:43 AM (lIgBp)

Really!?! You're hot, all twelve of you. Need an oil change or tire rotation? I have a space open in October. She's really hot. Be her when you do the door thing they all do.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 11:50 AM (LgDgc)

235 When I read The Legacy of Heorot, started it right after dinner one evening; the first ninety pages were slow, but then it got interesting enough that I finished it around 3 AM. Lent it to my then-boss and told him not to start it too late. A few days later, he came in looking like death warmed over. I said, 'You started the book last night, right?' and he just said, 'I couldn't put it down'.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025


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My paperback edition in the late '80s included one quote as a blurb: "Makes Aliens look like a Disney nature film."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 11:50 AM (omVj0)

236 "Whetstone's Revenge."

Posted by: Just the working title at June 22, 2025 11:52 AM (lIgBp)

237 I wish I liked the fantasy genre. Seems like there are a lot of highly rated books to choose from based on what I've read on the book threads.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)

238 From Structuring Sentences for Dummies, above
...I would read the hell out of a series of a chosen eighty-five-year-old woman who goes on epic journeys throughout a dangerous and magical land, armed only with a cane and her stab-tastic knitting needles, accompanied by her six cats and a skittish-yet-devoted orderly who makes sure she takes her pills on time.

Ha. Just reread The Stand, not one of King's better novels - as if there were any - with Mother Abigail Freemantle's virus free "Bolder Free Zone."

NPR, 'Stephen King Is Sorry You Feel Like You're Stuck In A Stephen King Novel,' Dec. 29, 2020.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2025 11:56 AM (NFX2v)

239 *Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz*

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And here's why that's a good thing.

Posted by: NPR at June 22, 2025 11:57 AM (lIgBp)

240 I wish I liked the fantasy genre. Seems like there are a lot of highly rated books to choose from based on what I've read on the book threads.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025


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I like to write the stuff, and most of what I run across bores me. Exceptions: Fred Saberhagen's Empire of the East and his "Books of Swords" series; Larry Niven's "The Magic Goes Away" franchise (a short story, a novella, and a novel, though other authors have written tales in that universe).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 11:57 AM (omVj0)

241 So Iran erected a toll booth at the mouth of the strait?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:00 PM (sZI8v)

242 Looks like we're about done here. Thanks again to the Perfessor and all of you for a fine Book Thread this week!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:00 PM (omVj0)

243 So Iran erected a toll booth at the mouth of the strait?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025


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Reduced rates if you have a "I hate Israel" toll tag on the bow of your ship

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:01 PM (omVj0)

244 I am reading "Get Rich Quick" by Robin Banks.

Posted by: Fodrow at June 22, 2025 12:01 PM (ZmEVT)

245 242 Looks like we're about done here. Thanks again to the Perfessor and all of you for a fine Book Thread this week!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:00 PM (omVj0)

I can't add much.. I read and re-read Jane Austen...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:01 PM (VE6XX)

246 @235 Yep. Putting Legacy on screen would be amazing. Haven't been out to a movie in many years, but that would be tempting.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 12:03 PM (NcvvS)

247 The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is one of my favorite SF. I had a nice hardcover that was lost during a move.

I'm continuing to read kids' books from the secondhand grab-a-bag sale.

Two Lois Lowry books: "The Giver" is fantastic. I hard it's frequently banned books; I wonder if it's because its message is anti-utilitarian and pro-life. "Anastasia on Her Own" had one of those contrived plots I remember from my own youth; forgettable, but it was fun to see old pop culture references like Clint Eastwood's "Make my day."

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 22, 2025 12:04 PM (CWY86)

248 I can't add much.. I read and re-read Jane Austen...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025


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I've always wanted to. One of my favorite authors, Rex Stout, always mentioned her as one of *his* favorites. But the dense prose style is a big hurdle for me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:04 PM (omVj0)

249 Hmm. CBD is late.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 12:04 PM (NcvvS)

250 249 Hmm. CBD is late.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 12:04 PM (NcvvS)

Is he still in France ? maybe they surrendered...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:05 PM (VE6XX)

251 Hmm. CBD is late.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 12:04 PM (NcvvS)

Drafted by the French Army. Heading out to Iran to surrender.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 12:06 PM (0eaVi)

252 Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2025 12:05 PM (VE6XX)

See!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 12:07 PM (0eaVi)

253 Putting Legacy on screen would be amazing. Haven't been out to a movie in many years, but that would be tempting.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025


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Esp. now that the grendels could be done with CGI.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:07 PM (omVj0)

254 adult versus childhood perspective.

As an adult you realize The Giving Tree enabled the human boy to turn into a selfish person who never thought of the tree. He just kept taking and the tree kept giving.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:07 PM (sZI8v)

255 No CBD, just means a few more minutes of book talk.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 12:08 PM (0eaVi)

256 Last known location was People's Republic of New Jersey

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:08 PM (+qU29)

257 The Jersey Devil got CBD?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:08 PM (sZI8v)

258 "I find it sad that these students struggled so much with their basic reading comprehension that they would not be able to complete their curriculum."

and yet they will complete it, and go forth bearing the banners of their degreed expertise, to spread educated, ingrained ignorance even further!

Western Civ will be lucky to survive.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 12:08 PM (alnxS)

259 The Jersey Devil got CBD?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:08 PM (sZI8v)

We'll get a ransom note soon... begging to take him back.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 12:09 PM (0eaVi)

260 currently almost to the end of the new Joe Abercrombie, "The Devils" great stuff if you like that sort of thing ... when I laugh more than usual, sometimes I will read aloud the line-or-two that got me, to Mrs Eez, & get mostly silence back. not her cup of tea.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 12:09 PM (alnxS)

261 I am at LibertyCon in Chattanooga this weekend. I'm bringing back quite a haul of books. I quite recommend the Raconteur Press books.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at June 22, 2025 12:10 PM (+5Zv/)

262 3 of 3
Niven / Pournelle's "Inferno", LOL!
I still remember Vonnegut's Tomb! LOL!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 12:10 PM (alnxS)

263 Noodus MisHum

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 12:11 PM (omVj0)

264 Today is the last day of Jackson ComicCon. No real urge to spend $35 to get in. And absolutely no urge to hand over $60 per for an autograph of Johnathan Frakes or Wil Wheaton.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:11 PM (sZI8v)

265 I, too, would read the heck out of the Magic Grandma series!

Posted by: pookysgirl wishes she'd thought of it first at June 22, 2025 12:11 PM (Wt5PA)

266 So Iran erected a toll booth at the mouth of the strait?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:00 PM

Nick Sortor @nicksortor

The Iranian Parliament has just ORDERED the closing of the Strait of Hormuz

OVER 20% of global oil production flows through the strait.

Might see US Navy intervention here.

https://bit.ly/3ZKWFK2

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (P5BPp)

267 yeah, NaughtyPine, years ago I read that so many times I was starting to talk like a Loonie!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 12:12 PM (alnxS)

268 Oh, and I got to meet and talk with Hans Schantz

Posted by: Cybersmythe at June 22, 2025 12:13 PM (+5Zv/)

269 227 > Natalya, Natasha, Natalie...

Also Natalushka and probably some others I've forgotten.

Fond of nicknames, the Russians are.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 11:44 AM (qpyNK
Natty Bumpus

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 12:15 PM (jgmnb)

270 The Stand is the only stephen king book I was ever able to read

not boycotting him because of his vomitous lefty jabber (I would!), just find his stuff completely unreadable.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 12:15 PM (alnxS)

271 Speaking of books . . .

Disgraced Democrat "Super Mayor" [Tiffany Henyard (who?)] Charges $99 for Tell‑All Book While Dodging FBI Probe

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The grift must flow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 12:16 PM (L/fGl)

272 @253 The grendels and the samlon, both.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 22, 2025 12:18 PM (NcvvS)

273 Khan remembered Chekov. but Chekov was not in "Space Seed."

Posted by: Fodrow at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (ZmEVT)

274 Recently read Hemmingways Farewell to Arms, which supposed is his best work. I've read several other which I mostly enjoyed but don't see the attraction to this one. In usual rapid fire, stream of conscienceless the story move rapidly. It is based on his experience as a ambulance driver in WWI and from that I concluded he spent most of his time getting drunk in cafes and elsewhere, going to whorehouses and chasing pretty nurses. It was a little difficult to relate to the main characters at least the woman, as the conversations seemed very artificial and shallow so the end did not leave much of an impression. The war is mostly incidental to the main story and the end could have happened anywhere. A little disappointed in this one.

Posted by: Ripley at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (YTqn4)

275 Anyone here a Stanislaw Lem fan?

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (fV+MH)
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Yes, why?

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at June 22, 2025 12:47 PM (7u4Q/)

276 "Timeline" is absolutely the worst book I've ever read.

I'm not including "The DaVinci Code" because I bailed out on that p.o.s. after Chapter 1.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 22, 2025 01:27 PM (5YmYl)

277 As an adult you realize The Giving Tree enabled the human boy to turn into a selfish person who never thought of the tree. He just kept taking and the tree kept giving.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 12:07 PM (sZI8v)

That was my first experience of my reading of a text being out of sync with everyone else's understanding.

As a kid whose parents doctored our ailing fruit trees and cut trees up for heating the house, I knew that when he cut all her limbs off, she would die. A done deal when he took down her trunk. It was her ghost that was "happy" when he sat on her stump in his old age.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 22, 2025 01:30 PM (CWY86)

278 273 Khan remembered Chekov. but Chekov was not in "Space Seed."
Posted by: Fodrow at June 22, 2025 12:19 PM (ZmEVT)

Chekhov's name was known to Khan when he memorized the crew. They just hasn't physically met.

And I'm not even a Trekkie.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:32 PM (vm8sq)

279 @191 --

Sounds like "Grand Hotel." All those lives pass through the nexus.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (p/isN)

280 "Timeline" is absolutely the worst book I've ever read.

I'm not including "The DaVinci Code" because I bailed out on that p.o.s. after Chapter 1.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 22, 2025

Michael Crichton's novel? I tried reading that after loving Tim Powers' "Anubis Gates". Couldn't get into it.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 22, 2025 01:38 PM (CWY86)

281 Late, as usual - I'm Retired, go to bed when I feel.like it, get up.when I want - but here I am. One question, one comment.
Library shelving: Fiction is shelved in author's last name, alphabetically. What about multiple authors? Specifically, Preston and Child? In our local community library, sort of a giant Free Library - no check out, bring in any unwanted books, shelved by volunteers - I've found their books shelved in both the "C" and the "P" area. What, exactly, is the Rule? Would a book be shelved differently if they decided to label a book.with their names in reverse order?
I looked at your picture of your library sale finds, counted, and realized that the Pogo book, the Star Trek book, and The Arabian Nights are the only ones I haven't read, but I am familiar with many of the tales in the Nights. It's sort of like a reverse of the monkeys on typewriters, if you live long enough, you'll have read everything.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 22, 2025 02:40 PM (4ETSN)

282 135 I’ve almost completed a non-dystopian version. I have a small publishing house I want to send it to, a college my pastor is moving to.

Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at June 22, 2025 03:18 PM (oEXy7)

283 Again, these were all ENGLISH MAJORS, meaning they *should* have advanced reading comprehension skills,

In the 1980s I'd gone back to grad school at Colorado School of Mines - distinctly a technical and engineering college. They offered me a TA, and I found myself teaching, essentially, a remedial math course. Monitoring it, really, since it was self-taught. It was a course for incoming foreign students to acquaint and familiarize themselves with math in the English language. OK, fine.

What surprised me was the number of US students in that class; the entry-testing had revealed math weakness among them. How, I wondered at the time, do you apply for an engineering college without having a thorough facility in math?

It's sad, that ENGLISH majors are not literate readers, but this problem goes way, way, way back, too. Would-be ENGINEERS who do not comprehend Algebra II...

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 22, 2025 04:55 PM (bufu1)

284 Minor detail, "Outies" is by Jennifer Pournelle, Jerry's daughter.

Posted by: Captain Dave at June 22, 2025 06:05 PM (SX5EB)

285 Hey there. I know it's Monday, but I just saw this and I have to say that "Boy's Life" was a bit of a disappointment. I read the Kindle version a couple of years ago after a number of recommendations. It was written well but I felt that the author couldn't figure out where he wanted to go with the story. Long story short, I read it, nothing jumped out that would make me hate it*, but it felt unfinished, or maybe undercooked. Don't not read it on my account, but I needed to tell somebody.

* Anachronism is my pet peeve (Especially parachronism, like all Stephen King dialog written after 1979) and also obvious bad editing. For example; I just read a crappy airport book which was otherwise a lot of trashy fun, but every weapon was a "Glock". "I slid my hand down to my trusty worn Glock". "I turned my head and found myself staring directly into to the barrel of a Glock." "I could see the bulge of a Glock under his arm." "Looks like this poor bastard took two from a Glock." I can deal with the hero getting shot through the "meaty part of the thigh" six times in the same book, sometimes even expect it, but there is no possible teenager in 2025 who would use the word "foxy".

Posted by: Lost My Cookies at June 23, 2025 10:22 AM (95DTp)

Daily Tech News 22 June 2025

Top Story

  • 80% of patients in a recent study were cured within six months - of Type 1 diabetes. (Hartford Courant) (archive site)

    The subjects of the study were the subset of diabetes patients who have hypoglycemic unawareness - that is, they also lack the usual warning signs that their glucose levels are dangerously low.

    That was not specific for the treatment, but made the treatment more necessary.

    Because there is a big downside. The treatment involves using stem cells to recreate the missing pancreatic islet cells that generate insulin, but leave the patient needing lifetime immunosuppressant treatment - which is probably not an improvement over diabetes for most patients who don't also have hypoglycemic unawareness.

    But still, it works. It's an option, and if the immune issue can be resolved, it's a cure.


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1 w00t

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (CQE5S)

2 BOING!

It's eith black magic ...

... or air piano:

https://tinyurl.com/3jfn2pxw

Gotta CONCENTRATE on work. Maybe l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (ppGh0)

3 I demand a recount bunker buster!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:31 AM (ppGh0)

4 >> ... it works. It's an option, and if the immune issue can be resolved, it's a cure.

Nice!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:31 AM (CQE5S)

5 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 04:33 AM (PGK1w)

6 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 04:33 AM (DfkdK)

7 Disclaimer: No more.

What you say?

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:36 AM (CQE5S)

8
But still, it works. It's an option, and if the {immune issue} can be resolved, it's a cure.


Not for nothing, but if you swamp in their own issues for their house brands of Coof poisons between the "{" and the "}", that reads like something straight out of Pfizer's or Moderna's Coof propaganda.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:37 AM (xG4kz)

9
Jeebus, "swap", not "swamp".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:38 AM (xG4kz)

10


Well, why would Trump brief any Democrats. That would be like Ike briefing Rommel just as the boats crossed the English Channel to Normandy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 22, 2025 04:39 AM (x0n13)

11
Have things cooled off enough at Fordow so that toasting marshmallows for the s'mores can begin?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:41 AM (xG4kz)

12 9 Jeebus, "swap", not "swamp".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:38 AM (xG4kz)

Covfefe?

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:41 AM (CQE5S)

13 3 hostage bodies recovered from Gaza. We knew they were murdered but at least there's closure for their families.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:42 AM (ppGh0)

14 Jack didn't do much wrong, really. Only just

'(You ain't got no money, you just ain't no good)'

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:43 AM (CQE5S)

15
Covfefe?
Posted by: m


Thanks, but too early. I really need to give my eyes a brief rinse when I am up this early and commenting.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:45 AM (xG4kz)

16
When can we expect that Indian Congresscritter from Michigan with the bad rug to announce his "I really mean these this time" articles of impeachment against Donald Trump?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:51 AM (xG4kz)

17
L8r

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:52 AM (xG4kz)

18

So, okay. Iran's nuke program is gone. But Islam still exists.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 22, 2025 04:55 AM (x0n13)

19 In spite of the Oregonian headline ("Intel will outsource marketing"), it's not just marketing:

--“The transition of our marketing and operations functions will result in significant changes to team structures"

--Intel notified workers in its manufacturing business last weekend that it plans to lay off as many as a fifth of them

--Tan is overhauling Intel’s operations, cutting jobs and eliminating layers of management ... Intel told workers the move to outsource its marketing work is an extension of that work.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:55 AM (CQE5S)

20 Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
5h
You have no choice but to introduce articles of impeachment in front of Congress this very Monday. The republic is crumbling. We are not a nation of Kings. NO KINGS.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
7h
The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.

It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:02 AM (CQE5S)

21 >>But Islam still exists.

Unfortunately.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:05 AM (rdVOm)

22
Apparently, AI is going to have to run it's course in order to be fully discredited. Looks as if way too many aren't clear on just what it is and the shortcomings.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 22, 2025 05:06 AM (hKoQL)

23 So, okay. Iran's nuke program is gone. But Islam still exists.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 22, 2025 04:55 AM (x0n13)

Short of a complete and meticulous genocide, it will always exist. Just like the flu virus. Best solution is to deny muslims any kind of citizenship in sane countries. They can be guest workers, or "resident aliens", but cannot have any role at all in the political process. No vote, no running for or holding office, no government jobs beyond the most menial.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:07 AM (OJL75)

24 The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

Poor Donkey Chompers. She still thinks her opinion matters.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2025 05:07 AM (7xrfc)

25 "If you were looking for an updated Linux driver for your 1994 SoundBlaster AWE32 sound card, you're in luck, because now there is one."

I still have one of those (somewhere) with the WaveBlaster daughter card on it!

And no working motherboards I can plug it into that have an ISA slot because they all aged out and died. *sighs*

Behold "Project dISAppointment":
https://youtu.be/putHMSzu5og

Yeah, I'll just use DOSbox instead.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2025 05:09 AM (O7YUW)

26 The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.

It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:02 AM (CQE5S)

The best part of AOC had not yet dribbled down her father's leg when Iran declared war on the USA in 1979.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:10 AM (OJL75)

27 Withdraw recognition of islam as a "religion"

No more protected status.

No more tax-exemption.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:13 AM (rdVOm)

28 Is there a way to put a SATA drive in a box with and IDE motherboard, and get it to boot?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:13 AM (OJL75)

29
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 22, 2025 05:15 AM (tljrc)

30 Short of a complete and meticulous genocide, it will always exist. Just like the flu virus. Best solution is to deny muslims any kind of citizenship in sane countries. They can be guest workers, or "resident aliens", but cannot have any role at all in the political process. No vote, no running for or holding office, no government jobs beyond the most menial.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:07 AM (OJL75)
-

No! No! No! Give them nothing. Shut the door on them completely. Not a single one.

Yes, a major Constitutional Amendment is needed, to remove Islam and any other groups whose goal is to destroy the Republic.

Slippery slope, you say? Yes. In fact there are 2. One slope is much more slippery and shorter than the other.

G-d bless President Trump and the United States. Be all safe and give the enemy from within hell.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:15 AM (ppGh0)

31 And if you want legacy motherboards with ISA slots for that Soundblaster, I found a company called Nixsys that makes them per the original specifications for older operating systems:

https://tinyurl.com/2s4ccuy2

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2025 05:16 AM (O7YUW)

32 ... and then there's:

Stephen L. Miller retweeted
Guy Benson
@guypbenson
6h
Rashida grieving for Iran’s nuclear weapons program. A member of our Congress.

Rashida
Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib
8h
Yep, and it's so f**king sick.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:18 AM (CQE5S)

33 Withdraw recognition of islam as a "religion"

No more protected status.

No more tax-exemption.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:13 AM (rdVOm)

Yes, But go further. Any person claiming adherence to the precepts of islam is automatically made a non-citizen. Because the precepts of islam are incompatible with any form of democratic government.

And any muslim who poses as a non-muslim in order to claim citizenship, and who is subsequently found out, shall be deemed to be a spy. And you know what gets done to spies...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:18 AM (OJL75)

34 Speaking of AOC...

Philistines upon you, America.

This is who she is they are:

https://tinyurl.com/9sanj3m5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:19 AM (ppGh0)

35 The tiresome "squad" behaving tiresomely and as expected. Yawn.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:20 AM (2GCMq)

36 No! No! No! Give them nothing. Shut the door on them completely. Not a single one.

Yes, a major Constitutional Amendment is needed, to remove Islam and any other groups whose goal is to destroy the Republic.

Slippery slope, you say? Yes. In fact there are 2. One slope is much more slippery and shorter than the other.

G-d bless President Trump and the United States. Be all safe and give the enemy from within hell.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:15 AM (ppGh0)

That would require the deportation of all muslims currently living in "Western" countries. No! No! No! Give them nothing. Shut the door on them completely. Not a single one.

Yes, a major Constitutional Amendment is needed, to remove Islam and any other groups whose goal is to destroy the Republic.

Slippery slope, you say? Yes. In fact there are 2. One slope is much more slippery and shorter than the other.

G-d bless President Trump and the United States. Be all safe and give the enemy from within hell.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:15 AM (ppGh0)

That would require the deportation of all muslims currently living in "western" countries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:22 AM (OJL75)

37 sorry about the garbled post. Stupid laptop

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:23 AM (OJL75)

38 My son has been watching "The Three Stooges" movies on the Internet". They were much more entertaining than these Congressional clowns.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:26 AM (2GCMq)

39 It's not a war. Just a "policing action".

Congress ain't got squat to say about it.

So mnyeah.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:26 AM (BjH5D)

40 Speaking of AOC...

Philistines upon you, America.

This is who she is they are:

https://tinyurl.com/9sanj3m5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:19 AM (ppGh0)
-

David Marcus
@davidmarcus
13h

This timeline is so off. Can you imagine a prominent Congress representative from another time celebrating someone who openly supported Osama Bin Laden, ISIS… and organized anti-West / American uprising? Wild.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:29 AM (ppGh0)

41
I'd like to see the Democrats try to impeach Trump again. They may as well put up a big banner, "We Stand With Iran".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 05:30 AM (QnmlO)

42 islam is, inherently, anti-American.

We hold this truth to be self-evident!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:30 AM (rdVOm)

43 My son has been watching "The Three Stooges" movies on the Internet". They were much more entertaining than these Congressional clowns.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:26 AM (2GCMq)

Moe Howard was a pretty smart guy. He also managed finances for Curly (his brother) and also I think for Larry Fine, and made them a lot of money, which they otherwise would have squandered.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:30 AM (OJL75)

44 I think of all what's coming out, the fact that R's were briefed and D's weren't was the political masterstroke in terms of domestic affairs. A complete blackout might be a little suspect. Partial briefing means no one can say "congress wasn't briefed".

Also, none of the Rs who were told squealed or had a staffer leak anything, which is nigh on miraculous.

It's not just a dropped gauntlet. It's a clenched fist in a gauntlet straight into the Suicide Party's incisors.

Fuck You. War.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:30 AM (BjH5D)

45 That would require the deportation of all muslims currently living in "western" countries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:22 AM (OJL75)
-

Correct.

The US should start by fast-tracking the deportation of millions of illegal aliens - every last one of them. The courts need to be ignored and purged.

Look at Europe and wake up! Heck, look at NYC's Muslim mayoral candidate and snap out of it!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:32 AM (ppGh0)

46 Well, it's 0230 here, and I am sleepy. Road trip home tomorrow. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:32 AM (OJL75)

47 That would require the deportation of all muslims currently living in "western" countries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------

Oh please oh please oh please!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:33 AM (rdVOm)

48 islam is, inherently, anti-American.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:30 AM (rdVOm)
-

Anti-human.

So is communism.

America first. But it's not just about America.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:34 AM (ppGh0)

49 Hawaiian judge orders that bombs fragments be reassembled and sucked back up into the B-2s that dropped them via anti-gravity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:35 AM (BjH5D)

50 >>...the fact that R's were briefed and D's weren't was the political masterstroke in terms of domestic affairs...
-----------

Akshually, it was a NO-BRAINER.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:35 AM (rdVOm)

51 Akshually, it was a NO-BRAINER.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:35 AM (rdVOm)

True heroism is having the balls to do the obvious.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:35 AM (BjH5D)

52 46 Well, it's 0230 here, and I am sleepy. Road trip home tomorrow. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:32 AM (OJL75)

AOP / AOC
Coincidence?
/snark

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:36 AM (CQE5S)

53 We live in interesting times. Dammit.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:37 AM (rdVOm)

54
It was a Mostly Peaceful bombing.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:37 AM (rP7Op)

55 Good night, horde. It was a pleasure to serve you all on tonight's Club ONT.

May tomorrow find us all-- happy and well!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:38 AM (rdVOm)

56
The Democrat Doom Loop continues...

these fuckfaces MUST oppose & be fake-outraged about Everything, no matter what.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:39 AM (rP7Op)

57 -----
"Tomorrow will be remembered for thousands of years!"

Tomorrow: nothing.
-----
"Feeling cute. Might blow yo shit up in two weeks. Be cool, and maybe I won't."

Tomorrow: "Yeah, nah." .....ker-POW!!!!
-----

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:39 AM (BjH5D)

58 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 05:30 AM (OJL75)

I know the general consensus on here about actors/ comedians is that they're all stupid. I think in order to be clever verbally and physically chances are at least some of them are smart. Moe Howard evidently was and probably Groucho Marx as well

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:39 AM (2GCMq)

59
Dogs taken care of. Have to start getting ready to go to Mass.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2025 05:41 AM (QnmlO)

60 It might take you a few seconds to connect between the pic Libs of TikTok posted and the comment she made:

https://tinyurl.com/yvmbshv8

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:41 AM (ppGh0)

61
I suppose the next fake bullshit in this Farce will be...

a fake op-ed open letter fake "signed" by 300 former Pentagon "officials" who oppose the Iran campaign and will tell us, wait for it, "it makes us less safe."

Oh, and "it lowers" "our standing" "in the world" "community."

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:41 AM (rP7Op)

62
Yes, I can predict it now: "Hundreds" of fake Republicans & fake Pentagon & fake Intelligence "officials" will all fake "sign" a fake open-letter condemning Our Favorite President's decision.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:43 AM (rP7Op)

63
Dogs taken care of. Have to start getting ready to go to Mass.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Mars, eh?

Well, have a nice trip, if you make it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:43 AM (rP7Op)

64 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 05:44 AM (+qU29)

65 Woman enjoy looking at stained glass windows in her church and reflecting on God's mercy and love. Scripture : Matthew 25:14-23

https://tinyurl.com/rtv3a9c8

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 05:44 AM (2GCMq)

66 Oh, and "it lowers" "our standing" "in the world" "community."
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:41 AM (rP7Op)

It lowers THEIR standing.

You could have done this any time you wanted. You have been appropriated literal trillions of American dollars, dwarfing the GDP of even most developed nations, to build and perfect all the fancy crap you use and the people you train to do things like this. This carbuncle on the ass of humanity could have been scraped off at will. And you all did nothing for half a century and got rich for it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:45 AM (BjH5D)

67
btw, the Democrats were all set to roll out their latest favorite failed "taco" meme, too.

Nelson Muntz just called and said, "Heh-Ha."

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:46 AM (rP7Op)

68
Also: longest day of the year?

Bah Humbug!

I miss Winter.

I miss "short" days & darkness.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:47 AM (rP7Op)

69 a fake op-ed open letter fake "signed" by 300 former Pentagon "officials" who oppose the Iran campaign and will tell us, wait for it, "it makes us less safe."

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 05:41 AM (rP7Op)
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There's a certain amount of truth in that. Sleeper cells. Suicidal attacks on US assets in the ME and elsewhere.

Not being measured is what would have happened once Iran achieved full nuclear weapons capability plus developing their missile systems to the intercontinental level.

No time to rest on your laurels. This is a long ride. Islam's genie needs to be shoved back into the lamp.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 05:49 AM (ppGh0)

70 @Pixy Misa: It fell down behind the sofa.

*snrks* Thanks for that one Pixy, you gave me a good laugh!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2025 05:52 AM (O7YUW)

71 Yashar Ali 🐘 retweeted
Farnaz Fassihi
@farnazfassihi
4h
Iran's leader Ayatollah Khamenei is in a bunker, all his electronic communication suspended to protect him against assassinations and communication with him is limited and difficult. Until he speaks, Iran’s definitive response to U.S. strikes on nuclear sites is not clear.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:53 AM (CQE5S)

72 Until he speaks, Iran’s definitive response to U.S. strikes on nuclear sites is not clear.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:53 AM (CQE5S)

No response is still a kind of response, right?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:55 AM (BjH5D)

73 Yashar Ali 🐘
@yashar
8h
I am making no firm predictions about what will take place in the coming days, but for those of you who will read and watch statements from the Islamic Republic of Iran’s state media and regime officials, please remember that we Iranians excel at crafting dramatic, bombastic statements.

Don’t allow the regime to ramp up your anxiety unnecessarily.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:56 AM (CQE5S)

74 hehehe....

"bombastic"?

Too Soon, bro. Too soon.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:58 AM (BjH5D)

75 72 Until he speaks, Iran’s definitive response to U.S. strikes on nuclear sites is not clear.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 05:53 AM (CQE5S)

No response is still a kind of response, right?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 05:55 AM (BjH5D)

I would say "no," that Iran's leader Ayatollah Khamenei can only speak for himself.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:00 AM (CQE5S)

76 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 22, 2025 06:01 AM (lIgBp)

77 How many sleeper agents will simply defect and melt into wider society, because they no longer feel the need to stick their neck out for a dying, neutered regime full of cowards hiding in holes? Disillusionment can be a powerful thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:05 AM (BjH5D)

78 That diabetes I cure: use the patient's own stem cells so there will be no rejection.

Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run is done at June 22, 2025 06:07 AM (sPQoU)

79 Evening and morning, Sunday toilers and other AoSHQ satellites across the system!

"Hit the Road, Jack" -- I have a dim child's memory of hearing it on the radio when it was new. And it might be I heard it later while remembering the kidhood setting and conflated the two. Doesn't matter, it's a fun song.

I'm up, sipping coffee, have fed the monsters, and will soon feed me. What's going on? Is Iran still standing?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:08 AM (omVj0)

80 Orange Man bad?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2025 06:09 AM (AzOrP)

81 Type 1 here.

Islet cell transplants have been around for years. They are aa huge tradeoff and arguably worse than having type 1 to begin with.
I'm on the omnipod 5 and dexcom system that uses my blood sugar reading and learning AI (predictive learning analytics) to automatically control my insulin.

I've never been healthier in all my life.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 22, 2025 06:10 AM (WYStd)

82 11
Have things cooled off enough at Fordow so that toasting marshmallows for the s'mores can begin?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:41 AM (xG4kz)

Bring some Jiffy Pop popcorn. Bet it starts popping the closer you get to Fordow.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 22, 2025 06:10 AM (7v6oI)

83 On Svengoolie last night, he ran the 1960 B & W Village of the Damned w/ George Sanders. I actually got Linda to watch it, and she liked it (while hating Sven's comic bits, of course). It's a pretty darn good film . . . except that it seems to miss out on the chance to set up and emphasize the tragedy of the final scene. The flick is only an hour and fifteen minutes long; it could have been a little longer, I guess.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:11 AM (omVj0)

84 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Do, or do not.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2025 06:11 AM (XZ5S6)

85 Good morning morons

My childhood was filled with Ray Charles, mom and dad were huge fans.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 06:12 AM (RIvkX)

86 Boxer crabs carry tiny sea anemones in their claws, using them like boxing gloves to fend off predators. Powerful and protective little pom-poms!

Posted by: Ciampino - what do the anemones get in return? at June 22, 2025 06:13 AM (sPQoU)

87 the Islamic Republic has really let itself get backed into a corner, hasn't it?

Zero outside assistance from any allies who either can't help, or simply won't. All their little terror proxies are either disrupted or disillusioned from their puppetmaster having hung them out to dry too many times. Their ace in the hole is now *really* in a hole as of last night. They got nothing. If their official response to being systematically dismantled by the Great and Little Satans is to hide in the basement and cry, then it's over. They rule by terror alone, and now their terror is gone. The people won't suffer the indignity of letting impotent cowards remain their lords for very long.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:19 AM (BjH5D)

88 G'morning, all!


Democrats....please...never change.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:21 AM (a1415)

89 SOS Marco Rubio on Iran (May): "Once you're at 60%, you're 90% of the way there.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2025 06:22 AM (AOsQT)

90 "1960 B & W Village of the Damned"

I watched too. Lots of people die horribly but they never really show it. The kids reminded me of those space brats and Charlie X on Star Trek.

mornin yall. More motorsports today. After this I will have had enough for a while.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2025 06:22 AM (vFG9F)

91 Pompeo displays his raging chubby on Fox. He’s probably going to piss a circle around his house after the interview!

Posted by: Unkaren at June 22, 2025 06:25 AM (LPL2Y)

92 I won't know what to make of this situation until I hear from that Eastern European Block grifter, Zelenskyy.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (AzOrP)

93 Good thing Barky bombed all those countries without Congressional approval. Otherwise PDT might be in trouble with the Democrats.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (vFG9F)

94 "1960 B & W Village of the Damned"

I watched too. Lots of people die horribly but they never really show it. The kids reminded me of those space brats and Charlie X on Star Trek.

mornin yall. More motorsports today. After this I will have had enough for a while.
Posted by: fd at June 22, 2025


***
Yes, well, it's a very British film (based on a British novel). And films were not so graphic in those days. The English version of the film had the glowing eyes effect removed as being "too frightening."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (omVj0)

95 Trump isn't starting another ME war, he's ending one.

Expect much wailing and gnashing of teeth, as we have or are in the process of eliminating the greatest threat and terror weapon against Israel. An armed Iran was Obama's dream.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (wQOIH)

96 Up and atom.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (jgmnb)

97 I do honestly love the "sucker punch" aspect of it all. After decades of getting it from them, it's kind of poetic for them to have set everything up how they did with all the misdirection.

And when is the last time the US said "There will be grave consequences" and then there actually *were* grave consequences? Half a century of puffery from bullshitters. Disgraceful, really.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:27 AM (BjH5D)

98 So Trump distracted the world, including the seventh-century fanatics, by sending bombers west to Guam . . . and then didn't brief the Dems? As somebody here said, telling them would be like informing Rommel about the Normandy invasion plans. Brilliant work, DJT.

The Ds will scream . . . but I doubt there is any Constitutional requirement that the president inform *both* political parties. As I recall, there is no provision for political parties in the Constitution anyway!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:29 AM (omVj0)

99 MOPs seem to work better than the typical 'Sternly worded letter'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:30 AM (a1415)

100 99 MOPs seem to work better than the typical 'Sternly worded letter'.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:30 AM (a1415)

Far bigger blast radius than James Taylor, too.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:31 AM (BjH5D)

101 96 Up and atom.
Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (jgmnb)

Fun fact: The original voice of Atom Ant was done by Howard Morris, who also played Ernest T. Bass on the Andy Griffith show. Howard Morris also directed the pilot episode of the TV show Get Smart.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 06:31 AM (PiwSw)

102 Another thing...

Has the level of competency by our senior military leadership suddenly seem to have markedly improved?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:32 AM (a1415)

103 The Ds will scream . . . but I doubt there is any Constitutional requirement that the president inform *both* political parties. As I recall, there is no provision for political parties in the Constitution anyway!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:29 AM (omVj0
We’re at war with the dems

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:33 AM (jgmnb)

104 There is so much crazy in Mrs. F.'s family her mental health future does not look bright.

After the funeral Friday, I went to work so Girl F. and Son in law drove Mrs. F. and Boy F. back to the city.

On the way, Girl F. gets a text from her cousin that they want Girl F. to be with them at the burial. So they detour to the cemetery and help with the burial.

Then Mrs. F. gets a call from her uncle very upset and angry that uncle was not asked to attend.

Why he is hurt is not a surprise, but why take it out on Mrs. F. who was a passenger the entire time? She wasn't invited, Girl F. was...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 06:33 AM (RIvkX)

105 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:34 AM (u82oZ)

106 102 Another thing...

Has the level of competency by our senior military leadership suddenly seem to have markedly improved?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:32 AM (a1415)

I did like the visuals of Hegseth, Rubio, and Vance behind Trump, looking like a bunch of bouncers at a club ready to throw hands at the first sucker who acts up. He finally has a legitimate Crew now, doesn't he?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:35 AM (BjH5D)

107 102 Another thing...

Has the level of competency by our senior military leadership suddenly seem to have markedly improved?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:32 AM (a1415
Affirmative action.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:36 AM (jgmnb)

108 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

"in this country, it is good to kill an admiral from time to time, in order to encourage the others" (Dans ce pays-ci, il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres) Voltaire about ADM Byng. And it worked.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:36 AM (u82oZ)

109 Affirmative action.
Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025


***
As in, "We affirm this action"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:37 AM (omVj0)

110 Village Idiot's Apprentice

New CNO. New CJCOS, etc. etc.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:37 AM (u82oZ)

111 About AOC's claim that Trump supposedly violated the Constitution because she wasn't asked:

Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
6h

Pres. Trump's actions tonight were explicitly authorized by the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force passed by the Congress and signed by President Bush.

No further Congressional Authorization was required.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:38 AM (SLJQR)

112 The Dems in Congress are false to their oath, and are essentially enemy combatants in sensitive positions. They want America to fail, Americans to die, and to siphon up as much money and services for themselves they can.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:39 AM (u82oZ)

113 109 Affirmative action.
Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025

***
As in, "We affirm this action"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:37 AM (omVj0)
So words mean something after all.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:39 AM (jgmnb)

114 I kind of like the simplicity of it all, at its core.

"We need to fly over there and blow this shit up. So the plan is, we fly over there and blow this shit up."

Everything cutesy appears to have been the misdirection op. The thing itself was dead simple. There's just something militarily satisfying about it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:39 AM (BjH5D)

115 Warai-otoko

Excellent OPSEC all around. Me likey.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:41 AM (u82oZ)

116 115 Warai-otoko

Excellent OPSEC all around. Me likey.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:41 AM (u82oZ)

I love when my news is in the past tense.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:41 AM (BjH5D)

117 Morning peeps.

As I understand it, senior Democrats who normally would have been briefed on last night's operation were deliberately left in the dark. I would imagine that had something to do, at some level, with the mission's success.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 06:41 AM (Q4IgG)

118 Warai-otoko

The Gang of Four will F*** you up if you get out of line. It was a good visual, showing unity in the Cabinet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:42 AM (u82oZ)

119 "Nuke 'em 'til they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:43 AM (omVj0)

120 Can we drop Whoopi on them next?

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2025 06:43 AM (vFG9F)

121 If a Leftist complains, just say Obama/Hillary in Libya. Which had much worse consequences for the world and esp. the EU.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:45 AM (u82oZ)

122 fd

My God, Man! Drop Whoopi on them?

Nay, good sir. We are not savages.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:46 AM (u82oZ)

123 Only America would put the time and effort and cash into making a 15 kiloton conventional bomb because we think it's beneath us to use a perfectly good nuke to blow up someone else's not-quite-a-nuke-yet that's buried halfway to Mohammed's asshole rotting in hell.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:46 AM (BjH5D)

124 I kind of like the simplicity of it all, at its core.

"We need to fly over there and blow this shit up. So the plan is, we fly over there and blow this shit up."

Everything cutesy appears to have been the misdirection op. The thing itself was dead simple. There's just something militarily satisfying about it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Yes, very satisfying. Exquisite simplicity. We have a real chief executive in charge now. I'm expecting more of the same in years to come.

Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2025 06:46 AM (lJ0H4)

125 Are all our planes back on the ground?

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:46 AM (jgmnb)

126 Salty!


It's good to see the Nation with a spring in it's step again.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:47 AM (a1415)

127 We should drop Valerie Jarrett on them.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 06:48 AM (RIvkX)

128 That diabetes I cure: use the patient's own stem cells so there will be no rejection.
Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run is done at June 22, 2025 06:07 AM (sPQoU)


I assume that if their stem cells would work they wouldn't have type 1 diabetes in the first place.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2025 06:48 AM (ExV1e)

129 The View tomorrow will be Must Watch TV.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 06:48 AM (PiwSw)

130 Are all our planes back on the ground?

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 06:46 AM (jgmnb)
-

Perpetual hovering?

Tangled in the clouds?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:50 AM (SLJQR)

131 Village Idiot's Apprentice

I knew a Marine who had a stencil on his CH-53 helo in Somalia.

"First Moscow, then Congress." He had to remove that tiny bit of text.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:50 AM (u82oZ)

132 I don't want the US to hog all the glory, even though we just got what may very well wind up being the game winning goal.

The only reason we could blow this shit up with impunity is because Israel already stomped their asses flat from one end to the other.

Would have to have been a much different kind of operation otherwise.

That's Fuckin' Teamwork.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (BjH5D)

133 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Today is a good day. I hope some of the more deranged Leftists stroke out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (u82oZ)

134 We should drop Valerie Jarrett on them.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 06:48 AM (RIvkX)
-

There are so many that need dropping. Frankly, it can be over any part or the planet.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (SLJQR)

135 Bonchie retweeted
Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
9h
Obama's nuclear deal was meant to allow Iran to acquire nuclear capabilities and in doing so to pressure Israel into a two state solution.

Your entire fucking legacy just went up in smoke tonight and you know it, and you're showing it

Tommy Vietor
@TVietor08
10h
Iran might retaliate today, tomorrow or in months. Or a year from now, Iran or its proxies might blow up a bus filled with American tourists in Cyprus. No one knows what comes next. Bombing Iran started something that we no longer have the capacity to predict or contain.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (CQE5S)

136 129 The View tomorrow will be Must Watch TV.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 06:48 AM (PiwSw)

Drink every time they say "reckless"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:52 AM (BjH5D)

137 Fordow is now Iran's holeyist city.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2025 06:52 AM (vFG9F)

138 Tommy Vietor
@TVietor08
10h
Iran might retaliate today, tomorrow or in months. Or a year from now, Iran or its proxies might blow up a bus filled with American tourists in Cyprus. No one knows what comes next. Bombing Iran started something that we no longer have the capacity to predict or contain.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (CQE5S)

So.... literally nothing is different, then?

Gotcha.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:52 AM (BjH5D)

139 m

It is called life in the fast lane. Predictions into the future are always fraught with error.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 06:53 AM (u82oZ)

140 123 Only America would put the time and effort and cash into making a 15 kiloton conventional bomb because we think it's beneath us to use a perfectly good nuke to blow up someone else's not-quite-a-nuke-yet....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:46 AM (BjH5D)

Excellent.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:53 AM (CQE5S)

141 The View tomorrow will be Must Watch TV.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025
*
Drink every time they say "reckless"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025


***
Is The View a network show, or streaming? In other words, if I felt like self-flagellation tomorrow, where would I watch it?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:54 AM (omVj0)

142 #78

The problem there is that Type I Diabetes is genetic. (Hollywood has often made use of kids born with Type I because they tend to be short and can play much younger children while being able to understand more demanding dialogue.) Until you can edit it out, using the patient's own stem cells isn't going to work very well.

Much work is being done to overcome rejection, such as making a custom virus that makes the tissue to be implanted look native to the immune system. In the case of pancreatic tissue, there has been research into keeping the tissue in some form of isolation that allows it to perform its function but is kept hidden from immune response.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 22, 2025 06:55 AM (/0z9K)

143 Teamwork

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (BjH5D)
-

Musical interlude:

https://youtu.be/Z0qTN5s1ukA

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:55 AM (SLJQR)

144 So my guess is that we should ignore the previous news model, where everything is shared with the enemy news media ahead of time.

Old ways are best ways, as they say.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 06:55 AM (a1415)

145 Is The View a network show, or streaming? In other words, if I felt like self-flagellation tomorrow, where would I watch it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Isn't is an ABC show? Pretty sure it is.

Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2025 06:56 AM (lJ0H4)

146 Fordow is now Iran's holeyist city.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2025 06:52 AM (vFG9F)
-

Deep!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:56 AM (SLJQR)

147 128 That diabetes I cure: use the patient's own stem cells so there will be no rejection.
Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run is done at June 22, 2025 06:07 AM (sPQoU)

I assume that if their stem cells would work they wouldn't have type 1 diabetes in the first place.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2025 06:48 AM (ExV1e)
----
Well that's not how stem cells work. The pancreas does not try injecting modified stem cells into itself.

Posted by: Ciampino - it's genetic at June 22, 2025 06:56 AM (sPQoU)

148 My breakfast beef-and-bean burrito is spicy. Good excuse to put some honey on my toast.

Apropos of nothing, my appt. with the surgeon is on Tuesday afternoon. I hope we can schedule this (mild, I also hope) hernia surgery soon, so I can recover soon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:56 AM (omVj0)

149
even that little cocksucker bill maher said The View pigs need to shut the fuck up and stop "helping" Our Favorite President(tm)

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 06:57 AM (rP7Op)

150 #123

Using a nuke under any circumstance is a can of worms nobody sane wants to open. Thus the continuing development of chemical based explosives and weapons implementing them long after nukes could be made much more portable than those used on Japan.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 22, 2025 06:57 AM (/0z9K)

151 132 I don't want the US to hog all the glory, even though we just got what may very well wind up being the game winning goal.

The only reason we could blow this shit up with impunity is because Israel already stomped their asses flat from one end to the other.

Would have to have been a much different kind of operation otherwise.

That's Fuckin' Teamwork.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (BjH5D)

Agreement here:

@AGHamilton29
The reason The Islamic Republic now has limited response options is that Israel took out their main terror proxies (not inc Iraq militias) and then spent the last week defanging their military and dwindling their ballistic missile supply (destroying stockpiles, launchers, and drawing their fire).

Israel made the cost-benefit analysis a lot simpler for Trump. That’s why it’s important to have allies that can carry their own weight.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (CQE5S)

152 Tommy Vietor and the Obama administration thought they could contain Iran by allowing them to have nuke weapons capability.

That still amazes me.

Top. Men. Er, Pyrsons.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (sAmhv)

153 "Oh no, Iran might start doing nasty things now"

Fuck all the way off, you silly little twatgoblin.

That's like saying Germany might start invading their neighbors because of the Normandy Invasion. Djinn is kinda out of the lamp on that one already, wouldn'tcha say?

Jumped up soyjack little pajama boy neckbeard.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (BjH5D)

154
Maybe the Book Nerds can chew on these puzzles:

Why is Mess Hall called that?

And, what is a Messer Room, and why is it called that?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (rP7Op)

155 Israel made the cost-benefit analysis a lot simpler for Trump. That’s why it’s important to have allies that can carry their own weight.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (CQE5S)


*glares at m*

Posted by: NATO at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (PiwSw)

156 Is The View a network show, or streaming? In other words, if I felt like self-flagellation tomorrow, where would I watch it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
*
Isn't is an ABC show? Pretty sure it is.
Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2025


***
Ah! My local ABC outlet has it at ten a.m. I would rather be washing my car in the sour heat, or any number of unpleasant things, but I might make an exception and mistreat myself tomorrow.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 06:59 AM (omVj0)

157 It's light outside already. I too prefer shorter days.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2025 07:02 AM (omVj0)

158
the fucking birds start chirping at 2am

Shut The Fuck Up!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 07:02 AM (rP7Op)

159 Prop bet on if any of them say "Death to America"?

I'd put a fiver on that Behar weirdo. She's gotta be looking to one-up Whoopie in the retard sweepstakes after the other day's shenanigans.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:03 AM (BjH5D)

160 152 Tommy Vietor and the Obama administration thought they could contain Iran by allowing them to have nuke weapons capability.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (sAmhv)

Nuclear deterrence theory, wishfully applied.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:03 AM (CQE5S)

161 #77

The intercepted and decrypted Japanese message traffic before and during WWII make it seem the Japanese command truly thought they had a significant number of agents ready to perform sabotage in place on US soil. The fact that we had been reading their mail was kept classified until the late 70s, when small computers affordable for individuals made the WWII era encryption a moot point.

This was long after the US government had gone into apology overdrive for the internments, despite knowing that many agents of Japan were likely included and kept their status secret for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 22, 2025 07:03 AM (/0z9K)

162 So Iran's glorious religious leader is isolated, aged and mentally infirm?

Not able to effectively communicate his thoughts nor lead the country in any effective manner.


Why do I feel as if I have seen this movie before?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:04 AM (a1415)

163 155 Israel made the cost-benefit analysis a lot simpler for Trump. That’s why it’s important to have allies that can carry their own weight.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (CQE5S)

*glares at m*
Posted by: NATO at June 22, 2025 06:58 AM (PiwSw)

; )

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:05 AM (CQE5S)

164 The only reason we could blow this shit up with impunity is because Israel already stomped their asses flat from one end to the other.

Would have to have been a much different kind of operation otherwise.

That's Fuckin' Teamwork.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (BjH5D)
----
That's exactly the message both Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump conveyed last night.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 07:05 AM (IBQGV)

165 Have a great day, everyone.

May you have a spring in your step and a smile on your face.

Going walking with a co-worker, formally known as GD #1. Have fun on the book thread.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2025 07:05 AM (u82oZ)

166 Perpetual hovering?

Tangled in the clouds?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:50 AM (SLJQR)
On ground we control, undergoing maintenance, for further missions. And the crews presented Air Medals, drinks all around, etc.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:05 AM (jgmnb)

167 Be safe, Salty!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:06 AM (a1415)

168 #94

The glowing eyes were revived a few years later on UK TV for a recurring villain on 'Thunderbirds'.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 22, 2025 07:06 AM (/0z9K)

169 Did the other 6 B-2's make it to Guam safely?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:06 AM (a1415)

170 If I understood President Trump last night he said, he wants Iran to stand down and joint the world community. If they don't stand down it's going to be bad, worse than Fordow etc.

Welp, the Iranians have been raining rockets on Israel all night. I think the two day airbridge of cargo planes and the F series planes he stationed may soon come in to play

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:06 AM (DNJiU)

171 169 Did the other 6 B-2's make it to Guam safely?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:06 AM (a1415)

"Hey, those were just a couple 767s with wigs on!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:07 AM (BjH5D)

172 On ground we control, undergoing maintenance, for further missions. And the crews presented Air Medals, drinks all around, etc.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:05 AM (jgmnb)
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Don't we all!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:08 AM (SLJQR)

173 I'm sure glad that Joe Biden gave away Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan. You know the country right to the east of Iran.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 07:08 AM (NXz8h)

174 ""Hey, those were just a couple 767s with wigs on!"

I don't doubt that at this point, what we saw via various aircraft tracking sites never actually existed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:09 AM (a1415)

175 Islamic Republic of Iran ≠ Iranians

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:10 AM (CQE5S)

176 Welp, the Iranians have been raining rockets on Israel all night.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:06 AM (DNJiU)
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There were drones in the middle of the night that made it to nowhere but the missile attack was around 7AM today.

Had a non-stop restful night's sleep, the 2nd one since this began a week and a half ago.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:10 AM (SLJQR)

177 Because I really want to know what a bunch of bitter sourpuss yentas have to say.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 07:11 AM (lIgBp)

178 Out before the argumentative types and various trolls get here to shriek and argue that "This means another war."

May you all have a blessed day and know that you are a blessing to you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 07:11 AM (zNwlr)

179 Good morning Horde. Don't know what is more enjoyable, watching the results of our strike or watching the Dems twisting themselves into knots and showing what they really are.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:11 AM (IG2sK)

180
I thought Fox's "general" General Keane said Iran had very few missiles remaining?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 07:12 AM (rP7Op)

181 Islamic Republic of Iran ≠ Iranians

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:10 AM (CQE5S)
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The Iranian people need to prove that.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:12 AM (SLJQR)

182 @186 Biden's Dog, praying for you , your family and countrymen. Stay safe

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:13 AM (IG2sK)

183 Because I really want to know what a bunch of bitter sourpuss yentas have to say.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 07:11 AM (lIgBp)
====

Are you having lunch with my mom and her friends?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 07:14 AM (RIvkX)

184 Don't know what is more enjoyable, watching the results of our strike or watching the Dems twisting themselves into knots and showing what they really are.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:11 AM (IG2sK)
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See my comment, #60.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:14 AM (SLJQR)

185 @yashar in reply to Hakeen Jeffries:

@yashar
Jun 20
IRAN is not the sworn enemy of the United States, the Islamic Republic/Regime is.

Stop demonizing the people of a country with an authoritarian system this way.

It’s important to differentiate.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:14 AM (CQE5S)

186 When is Intel going to make a CPU that doesn't do the racist white man math?

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at June 22, 2025 07:14 AM (qvJod)

187 You know what is missing?

Giant papier-maché heads.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:15 AM (a1415)

188 @186 Biden's Dog, praying for you , your family and countrymen. Stay safe

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:13 AM (IG2sK)
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Thanks. We need to pray for one another. All of us should be well and safe.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:15 AM (SLJQR)

189 Am Yisrael Chai.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 07:15 AM (PiwSw)

190 Am Yisrael Chai.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 07:15 AM (PiwSw)
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השם יברך את ארצות הברית

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:16 AM (SLJQR)

191 181 Islamic Republic of Iran ≠ Iranians

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:10 AM (CQE5S)
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The Iranian people need to prove that.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:12 AM (SLJQR)

Good point. The distinction made now could help clarify that goal.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:17 AM (CQE5S)

192 Time to get ready for Church.


BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:18 AM (a1415)

193 Time of Israel says at least 86 wounded as Iran launches 2 missile barrages at Israel after US strikes

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:18 AM (DNJiU)

194 193 Time of Israel says at least 86 wounded as Iran launches 2 missile barrages at Israel after US strikes
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:18 AM (DNJiU)

"Oh no, now Israel is going to blow up a bunch of civilians somewhere, maybe tomorrow, maybe two years from now.... How could Iran do such a thing?"

... said no one anywhere on this side of the Oort cloud.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:20 AM (BjH5D)

195
When did this bullshit start?

Saying the people weren't "the enemy," just the government?

Viet Nam, perhaps?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 07:21 AM (rP7Op)

196
Karim Sadjadpour
@ksadjadpour
1/10 The US bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities is an ....


Sober analysis.

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 07:21 AM (vwfbS)

197 187 You know what is missing?

Giant papier-maché heads.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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The Eight A.M. press conference is going to light up the talking head shows today. They may well look like paper-mache' heads or possibly piñatas.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:23 AM (DNJiU)

198 Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
6h

Pres. Trump's actions tonight were explicitly authorized by the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force passed by the Congress and signed by President Bush.

No further Congressional Authorization was required.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:38 AM (SLJQR)


I'm sorry but it's complete bullshit to expect a Congressional Democrat to both know what the law says and to be honest about it.

Next you'll say that they should be bound by the same rules as the little people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2025 07:23 AM (ExV1e)

199 Time of Israel says at least 86 wounded as Iran launches 2 missile barrages at Israel after US strikes

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:18 AM (DNJiU)
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That's way above this morning's figures. So I assume it includes that attack from 2:30AM Saturday, along perhaps with the Friday afternoon attack which hit 2 mosques in Haifa.

Or they're including panicky people who cleaned up scratches and put a bandaid on them.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:25 AM (SLJQR)

200 Which gibbering propaganda minister will be the first to ask "Secretary Hegseth were you drinking during the attack"?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:25 AM (IG2sK)

201 Tommy Vietor
@TVietor08
10h
Iran might retaliate today, tomorrow or in months. Or a year from now, Iran or its proxies might blow up a bus filled with American tourists in Cyprus. No one knows what comes next. Bombing Iran started something that we no longer have the capacity to predict or contain.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 06:51 AM (CQE5S)


How does that differ from any point in time over the past 46 years?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2025 07:26 AM (ExV1e)

202 So Iran's glorious religious leader is isolated, aged and mentally infirm?

Not able to effectively communicate his thoughts nor lead the country in any effective manner.


Why do I feel as if I have seen this movie before?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 07:04 AM (a1415)

I dunno.

Posted by: John Gill at June 22, 2025 07:26 AM (0eaVi)

203 "islam is, inherently, anti-American.

We hold this truth to be self-evident!
Posted by: JQ "

Well...it is anti-democratic. That certainly is self-evident.

But according to some on the interwebs Iran is more Zoarastrian than muslim.

Like as if I know what Zoarastrian is.

If the Prince is Zoarastrian, whatever that is, maybe things can some how work.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:27 AM (fV+MH)

204 200 Which gibbering propaganda minister will be the first to ask "Secretary Hegseth were you drinking during the attack"?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:25 AM (IG2sK)

"No, I was fucking your mother. Next question?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:27 AM (BjH5D)

205 I saw the Sourpuss Yentas open for Strawberry Alarm Clock at the Fillmore West in ‘72

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2025 07:27 AM (rPV7A)

206 Ha! They will either be rending their clothes or carrying manacles to haul him off.
Talking heads could be lit today.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:28 AM (DNJiU)

207 Viet Nam, perhaps?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 07:21 AM (rP7Op)
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My understanding of the Vietnam war was that the South's corrupt government was not deserving of defense in the first place. The people hated all the choices.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:28 AM (SLJQR)

208 Wasn't Tommy Vietor the guy who drove the van with campaign staffers for Barky?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:28 AM (IG2sK)

209 So has n become m?

It all sounds like that retard ChemJeff anyway.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:29 AM (fV+MH)

210 For 46 years there was no air travel between Israel and Iran.
Now there are 60 to 70 flights per day.

Nature is healing.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 07:30 AM (lIgBp)

211 Because I really want to know what a bunch of bitter sourpuss yentas have to say.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 07:11 AM (lIgBp)

I saw The Bitter Sourpuss Yentas open for the Four-Non Blondes at the Lilith Fair at the Great Woods Center in Mansfield MA back in 2000.

Lots of sand in their vaginas let me tell ya!

Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, Local democrat scold and busybody at June 22, 2025 07:30 AM (R/m4+)

212 Which gibbering propaganda minister will be the first to ask "Secretary Hegseth were you drinking during the attack"?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:25 AM (IG2sK)
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"Why, yes. Jet fuel." - Sec. Hegseth

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 07:31 AM (SLJQR)

213 "You know what is missing?

Giant papier-maché heads.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice"


Well...yeah.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:31 AM (fV+MH)

214 Half a century of puffery from bullshitters. "

Hey, keeps us employed

*Department of State and various Georgetown bistros*

" So Iran's glorious religious leader is isolated, aged and mentally infirm?"

Howard Hughes style?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 07:32 AM (tubbA)

215 Sourpuss Yentas built America.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:32 AM (fV+MH)

216 There was a rumor that the Ayatollah might be taking a dirt nap. Unconfirmed.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 07:33 AM (hOOi9)

217 196
Karim Sadjadpour
@ksadjadpour
1/10 The US bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities is an ....


Sober analysis.
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 07:21 AM (vwfbS)

Very. Thanks.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:33 AM (CQE5S)

218 205 I saw the Sourpuss Yentas open for Strawberry Alarm Clock at the Fillmore West in ‘72.



I think they also used to also tour with the Gibbering Propaganda Ministers for a while.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 07:33 AM (lIgBp)

219 204 200 Which gibbering propaganda minister will be the first to ask "Secretary Hegseth were you drinking during the attack"?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:25 AM (IG2sK)

"No, I was fucking your mother. Next question?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:27 AM (BjH5D)

hahahahahaha
... albeit off-color

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:34 AM (CQE5S)

220 "When did this bullshit start?

Saying the people weren't "the enemy," just the government?

Viet Nam, perhaps?
Posted by: Soothsayer "

I think you're wrong but we shall see.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:34 AM (fV+MH)

221 216 There was a rumor that the Ayatollah might be taking a dirt nap. Unconfirmed.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 07:33 AM (hOOi9)

Might as well be for all the "leadership" he's providing.

"What's the plan now, boss?"

"I 'unno. Keep flinging shit at Tel Aviv and bring me a sandwich, I guess?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:35 AM (BjH5D)

222 *I'd* support an AI cheating company, as the more a fancy degree is devalued, the closer we get to the inevitable crash and burn of that incompetent leftist institution and replace it with...just about anything, honestly. Burn, baby, burn. Even the worst, completely bought-off congress critter can't defend "Alexa, do my homework" as legitimate education.

Posted by: bittergeek at June 22, 2025 07:36 AM (NFXcl)

223 It seems to me that how the Iranian regime handles domestic repression at this time will be instructive to how well the government is functioning. If they do nothing, even if there is active resistance seems to indicate they are on the verge collapse. If they amp up repression and control, it seems to indicate that they are in for the long haul no matter what happens and will refuse to give up power without a lot of bloodshed.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 07:36 AM (NXz8h)

224 UAD doing its best immitation of Yosemite Sam stomps its feet and demands that Israel stop its attacks on Iran.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:36 AM (DNJiU)

225 UAE

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:36 AM (DNJiU)

226 Those reports of B-2s heading to Guam were fake, right?

RIGHT?

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at June 22, 2025 07:37 AM (Y1sOo)

227 95 Trump isn't starting another ME war, he's ending one.

Expect much wailing and gnashing of teeth, as we have or are in the process of eliminating the greatest threat and terror weapon against Israel. An armed Iran was Obama's dream.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 06:26 AM (wQOIH)


Yep.

The ones saying that this Iranian regime with nukes would make the world safer are just liars. They WANT WWIII. Their followers who believe them are unbelievably stupid.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 07:37 AM (hOOi9)

228
@AGHamilton29
10h
Almost every other country has made it clear to the Islamic Republic that they are on their own. They should have made a deal when they had the chance. The main remaining allies for the terror regime are the Houthis in Yemen and the student groups at Columbia.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:37 AM (CQE5S)

229 What's a UAD?

Posted by: Too lazy to look it up at June 22, 2025 07:38 AM (lIgBp)

230 Alteria, from what I've read it appears to be the latter.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:38 AM (DNJiU)

231 225 UAE
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:36 AM

Oh

Posted by: Too lazy to look it up at June 22, 2025 07:38 AM (lIgBp)

232 226 Those reports of B-2s heading to Guam were fake, right?

RIGHT?
Posted by: Kim Jong-un at June 22, 2025 07:37 AM (Y1sOo)


It was either that, or they were a different group of B-2s whose mission was to make people think there would be more time before the bombing runs.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 07:39 AM (hOOi9)

233 it;s UAE

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:39 AM (DNJiU)

234 Some people on the socials are agitated about possible Iranian sleeper cells here in the states acting up. Claiming Trump will have to take the blame for it.

Guess who let most of those people just waltz across the border, unchecked?

The TDS outbreak this week is going to be epic.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 07:39 AM (Q4IgG)

235 229 What's a UAD?
Posted by: Too lazy to look it up at June 22, 2025 07:38 AM (lIgBp)


$20, same as in town.

Posted by: ChatAOS at June 22, 2025 07:40 AM (PiwSw)

236 235 229 What's a UAD?
Posted by: Too lazy to look it up at June 22, 2025 07:38 AM (lIgBp)

$20, same as in town.
Posted by: ChatAOS at June 22, 2025 07:40 AM

Damn. Bidenflation.

Posted by: It usta be only 10 at June 22, 2025 07:41 AM (lIgBp)

237 One of the Guam B-2s crashed. Crew is OK.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:42 AM (DNJiU)

238 Who has a UTI??

Posted by: Emily Litella at June 22, 2025 07:42 AM (RIvkX)

239 Oh, yes- shrieking leftist already out in the comment section on "FrontPage" site:

"Kat" says

"Convicted felon and a war criminal ‘are making the world a safer place’ by violating the UN Charter, international law and the US Constitution.
It is the death of America.
Mazel tov"

Fortunately the people in support of thiis bombing will outweigh those who aren't

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2025 07:42 AM (2GCMq)

240 234 Some people on the socials are agitated about possible Iranian sleeper cells here in the states acting up. Claiming Trump will have to take the blame for it....
----

Stayed up all night waiting for one.
No joy.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:43 AM (DNJiU)

241
*No, Emily. IUD. You know, birth control. IUD.*

Posted by: Whispering feverishly from offstage at June 22, 2025 07:44 AM (lIgBp)

242 I juat caught up in a series of layoffs. Corporate says they are cutting costs by getting rid of contigent worker(subcontractors.

The problem at my place is that they have stuffed the ranks with a lot of 30 YO senior project engineer/principle engineers DEIs and can't offer anyone new a decent salary let alone the lower ranked people who actually perform.

It used to be you need 15-20 years in-grade and had to be good in order to get to that level.

Plus all the capable people are looking elsewhere because there is no upward mobility as a result.

There's a giant plug of useless, shiny new, upper-level engineers that have immobilized things.

So management decides to go after the people that are easiest to get rid of.

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 07:45 AM (QB+5g)

243 180
I thought Fox's "general" General Keane said Iran had very few missiles remaining?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 07:12 AM (rP7Op)


I don't know if he said "very" few, but their stock is pretty depleted. They were launching multiple times as many missiles in the first couple of days vs recent days. I don't know how many were fired over the last 24 hours. Maybe not too many.

With the nuclear sites gone, I would think the missiles and missile launch sites would be getting a higher priority now.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 07:46 AM (hOOi9)

244 If TACO Trump is already folding on Iran, the American people need to know about it.

-- Chuck Schumer, June 2, 2025.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 22, 2025 07:47 AM (Y1sOo)

245 Some people on the socials are agitated about possible Iranian sleeper cells here in the states acting up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 07:39 AM (Q4IgG)

Well, they're correct. Democrats have been working their subversion already.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 07:47 AM (0eaVi)

246 This is INSANE 🚨 This woman is out with people blasting music at hotels ICE officers are saying at so they get no sleep

She takes it a step further, she posts the hotel locations and drives around showing you which cars are ICE officers AND THEIR LICENSE PLATES

LOCK HER UP

https://tinyurl.com/5bxwcmzt

Posted by: Ciampino - it's criminal at June 22, 2025 07:47 AM (sPQoU)

247 It all sounds like that retard ChemJeff anyway.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:29 AM (fV+MH)


Read more carefully.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2025 07:48 AM (Vb8Fk)

248 You want to know if I have an IUD?

Don't you think that is a bit forward?

Posted by: Emily Litella at June 22, 2025 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

249 Why should I listen to a Fox News so-called "expert" about anything?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 07:48 AM (lIgBp)

250 Alteria, from what I've read it appears to be the latter.
Posted by: braenyard

That's my sense of the situation, the regime is going to amp repressing the population. I haven't found any information about where the regular army lands. Fear, greed and opportunity might be the ingredients for a coup against the Mullahs and the IIRC. It seems like the natural conditions for going all Mogadishu here exist.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 07:49 AM (NXz8h)

251 237 One of the Guam B-2s crashed. Crew is OK.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:42 AM (DNJiU)


WTF!?! Crashed where? At or near Guam? We don't have a lot of those...

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 07:49 AM (hOOi9)

252 Perpetual hovering?

Tangled in the clouds?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 06:50 AM (SLJQR)
There will probably be sleeper cells attacking here at home, and they may very well have active support from ‘mostly peaceful’ protesters. If so, expect the propaganda to be as malodorous times 1000.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:51 AM (jgmnb)

253 248 You want to know if I have an IUD?

Don't you think that is a bit forward?
Posted by: Emily Litella at June 22, 2025 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

Ha!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:51 AM (CQE5S)

254 Sorry to hear pawn

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 07:52 AM (RIvkX)

255 Leftover cut and paste. But you know….

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:52 AM (jgmnb)

256 Ok...sorry "m".

Shouldn't have lumped you in with "n".

You m's and n's all look the same to me.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:52 AM (fV+MH)

257 253 248 You want to know if I have an IUD?

Don't you think that is a bit forward?
Posted by: Emily Litella at June 22, 2025 07:48 AM (RIvkX)


Is he spongworthy?

Posted by: Elaine Benes at June 22, 2025 07:53 AM (PiwSw)

258 237 One of the Guam B-2s crashed. Crew is OK.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:42 AM (DNJiU)

I do not find this online.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:53 AM (CQE5S)

259 Tehran Tina sez a barrage of fatwas is on the way.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 07:54 AM (NXz8h)

260 so i just searched "guam b2 crash"...

First thing i'm seeing is how amusing it is to see all the news articles from the last day or so saying "What to know about the B-2 bombers heading to Guam" as if the useless shitbricks writing all these screeds had any earthly clue themselves.

OK, back to searching. Just wanted to share.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:54 AM (BjH5D)

261 They're real and they're spectacular!

Posted by: While we're hitting Seinfeld sexual references at June 22, 2025 07:54 AM (lIgBp)

262 256 Ok...sorry "m".

Shouldn't have lumped you in with "n".

You m's and n's all look the same to me.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:52 AM (fV+MH)

; )

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:54 AM (CQE5S)

263 258 237 One of the Guam B-2s crashed. Crew is OK.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:42 AM (DNJiU)

I do not find this online.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:53 AM (CQE5S)
That was some time back?

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:54 AM (jgmnb)

264 Teen soccer star speaks out after being deported to Honduras by ICE

https://mol.im/a/14834611

Posted by: Ciampino - it's criminal anyway at June 22, 2025 07:54 AM (sPQoU)

265 tx cbd

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:55 AM (CQE5S)

266 Teen soccer stars. Is there anything they DON'T know?

Posted by: Homer Simpson at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (lIgBp)

267 I am predicting that the 2026 automobile models are going to be delayed in Iran.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (NXz8h)

268 Last night horde info.
Sounded like it crashed in Guam
They left it out in the rain and sensors got wet {it doesn't fly like a normal plane}
They dried them and re calibrated them but when the pilots turn the heater/dryer? on the sensors de-calibrated.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (DNJiU)

269 bbc not doing bad on all this

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (CQE5S)

270 266 Teen soccer stars. Is there anything they DON'T know?
Posted by: Homer Simpson at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (lIgBp)

How to straighten out your visa paperwork. Apparently.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (BjH5D)

271
I'll support this on two conditions:

1. The U.S. action is both complete and final. And short-lived. None of this colon powell "you break it, you buy it" bullshit.

2. Israel takes the brunt of the load and whatever "retaliation" Iran can muster. And by "brunt," I mean total.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (rP7Op)

272 There was a B-2 crash at Guam a few years back. Nothing recent

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 07:58 AM (IG2sK)

273 "Tehran Tina sez a barrage of fatwas is on the way.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram"


That's disconcerting.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:58 AM (fV+MH)

274 The crash was Horde convo last nite.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 07:59 AM (DNJiU)

275
"Iran has elected to receive."

Posted by: Pentagon official wearing NFL referee striped shirt at June 22, 2025 07:59 AM (lIgBp)

276 > One of the Guam B-2s crashed. Crew is OK.
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Aircraft Spots
@AircraftSpots
·
2h
For clarification:

MYTEE11 FLT (4x B-2As)
Whiteman to Andersen AFB, Guam. MYTEE14 diverted into Honolulu.

MYTEE21 FLT (4x B-2As)
Whiteman to Andersen AFB, Guam.

BATT11 FLT (4x B-2As)
Flew eastbound via Atlantic to strike Iran.

BATT21 FLT (3x B-2As)
Flew eastbound via Atlantic to strike Iran.

That means 15 out of the 19 operational B-2As in the USAF fleet were airborne all at once. (All information obtained via public Air Traffic Control frequencies).

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 07:59 AM (Q4IgG)

277 You m's and n's all look the same to me.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:52 AM (fV+MH)

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I find that statement letterist!

But what can you expect from a prime number?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 07:59 AM (IBQGV)

278 That's disconcerting.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:58 AM (fV+MH)

They've closed the Whoopi gap??!!?

Oh.

Sorry, nevermind.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 07:59 AM (BjH5D)

279 273 "Tehran Tina sez a barrage of fatwas is on the way.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram"

That's disconcerting.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:58 AM (fV+MH)


Been there, done that, got the eyepatch.

Posted by: Sir Salman Rushdie at June 22, 2025 08:00 AM (PiwSw)

280 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2025 08:00 AM (alnxS)

281 That means 15 out of the 19 operational B-2As in the USAF fleet were airborne all at once. (All information obtained via public Air Traffic Control frequencies).
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 07:59 AM (Q4IgG)

Why have 'em if you ain't gonna use 'em, right?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:00 AM (BjH5D)

282
How you reckon that little shit zelensky is feeling today?

I'll bet he's a bit miffed, hahahaha!

No bunker bombs for you, little shit. No dollarydoos, for you, either.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:00 AM (rP7Op)

283 In 2008?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:01 AM (je3ji)

284 The misdirection of the B-2s should have been expected by the Iranians. The Iraqi generals told Schwartzkopf that he didn't fight fair because the thought the US was going to come straight at them, not outflank them in the desert

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 08:01 AM (IG2sK)

285 Teen soccer star speaks out after being deported to Honduras by ICE"

IIRC, more of the family have been reunited w/the "teen"...

In Honduras. Let's hope for more such reunions.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 08:02 AM (tubbA)

286 269 bbc not doing bad on all this

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 07:57 AM (CQE5S)

Well, already I have to take that back. Female "news" person hectoring Israeli spokesperson.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:02 AM (CQE5S)

287 No bunker bombs for you, little shit. No dollarydoos, for you, either.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:00 AM (rP7Op)

Well did he bother to carve a swath to Moscow and establish air superiority over the entirety of Mother Russia for us? Hmmm?

MOP helps those who help themselves, bub.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:03 AM (BjH5D)

288
Putin is a dunce, too.
This was his chance to ingratiate himself with the American peophole and Our Favorite President(tm) if he had been supportive of this mission.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:03 AM (rP7Op)

289 Hegseth and Cain are on.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 08:03 AM (IG2sK)

290 Hegseth is on.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2025 08:04 AM (DfkdK)

291 Hegseth speaking from the Pentagon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt

(BBC)

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:04 AM (CQE5S)

292 Putin is a dunce, too.
This was his chance to ingratiate himself with the American peophole and Our Favorite President(tm) if he had been supportive of this mission.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:03 AM (rP7Op)

Isn't he? I saw someone saying they saw someone say that Putin was effectively saying "Whatever" about it. Not exactly supportive, but not obstructive, either. I might have seen it on the Internet so it has to be true.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (BjH5D)

293 The US bombs three major nuclear sites in Iran, bringing the country directly into the Israel-Iran conflict

Donald Trump tells Tehran to "make peace" or face "far greater" attacks in future[\b]

Coming up: US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth will give a public briefing at the Pentagon at 13:00 BST - watch it live above
In response to the attacks, Iran warns of "everlasting consequences" and accuses Trump of "betrayal"
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That's why sets of F series jets are over there and that two day cargo airbridge.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (DNJiU)

294 Hegseth doing a good job. Powerful.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (3ImbR)

295 Sounds as if he played Spiderman!
Spider-Man actor Jack Betts dies aged 96

https://mol.im/a/14834149

Posted by: Ciampino - good age at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (sPQoU)

296 "barrage of fatwas"

Anything like a "load of chalupas"?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (tubbA)

297 Don't mind us. We're not here.

Posted by: Inflatable B-2 bombers in the ground in Kuwait at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (lIgBp)

298 And now for a laugh ...... Mini black holes could be hiding in your HOME, scientists warn

https://mol.im/a/14825399

Posted by: Ciampino - good one at June 22, 2025 08:07 AM (sPQoU)

299 Hey, I had one of those sound cards in my junk parts box a few decades ago along with my first Diamond videocard! Took it all to a local parts store and gave it away, it was useless junk.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2025 08:08 AM (5M/Mg)

300 Iran warns of "everlasting consequences"

Fatwas? Or Falafel?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 08:08 AM (tubbA)

301 And now for a laugh ...... Mini black holes could be hiding in your HOME, scientists warn

https://mol.im/a/14825399
Posted by: Ciampino - good one at June 22, 2025 08:07 AM (sPQoU)
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Anyone who has lost socks in the dryer already suspected as much.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:08 AM (IBQGV)

302 Russia says that it “strongly condemned” the United States’s bombings of nuclear sites in Iran, calling the attacks “irresponsible” and a “gross violation of international law.”

“It is already clear that a dangerous escalation has begun, fraught with further undermining of regional and global security,” the Russian foreign ministry adds in a statement.


You might have a leg to stand on, Vlad, if you hadn’t committed a gross violation of international law in February of 2022.

It sucks that you can’t complain about other nations defending their own national security just like you claimed you could do against Ukraine & NATO encroachment.

We warned the Iranians for two decades not to build nukes, just like you warned NATO for twenty years not to expand further eastwards.

Sorry Putin, what’s good for the bear is also good for eagle.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 22, 2025 08:08 AM (6ydKt)

303 Only 8 MOPs left?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:08 AM (je3ji)

304 Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine speaking from the Pentagon is on.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:09 AM (CQE5S)

305 Look people...the missing socks are behind the dryer.

Tho I am open minded about Sasquatch.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 08:09 AM (fV+MH)

306 You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Madge at June 22, 2025 08:10 AM (lIgBp)

307 297 Don't mind us. We're not here.
Posted by: Inflatable B-2 bombers in the ground in Kuwait at June 22, 2025 08:06 AM (lIgBp)

; )

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:10 AM (CQE5S)

308 There's nothing really subtle or novel about Trump's approach here. It's just old school "Best Friend or Worst Enemy, your choice" stuff, backed up buy all the finest military kaboom our money (and a crapton of standard issue MIC corruption) can buy.

I basically approve.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:10 AM (BjH5D)

309
You m's and n's all look the same to me.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 07:52 AM (fV+MH)


We have an "mnw" here, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:10 AM (rP7Op)

310 @303 probably 8 more than anyone else has

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 08:11 AM (IG2sK)

311 There were 7 B-2s, each with two pilots. (Caine)

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:12 AM (CQE5S)

312
See? Putin, too, is a shitforbrains. Dumb.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:12 AM (rP7Op)

313 Strike Package.


amirite?

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 08:12 AM (fV+MH)

314 298 And now for a laugh ...... Mini black holes could be hiding in your HOME, scientists warn

https://mol.im/a/14825399
Posted by: Ciampino - good one at June 22, 2025 08:07 AM (sPQoU)


That would explain all the socks that go missing in the dryer...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (PiwSw)

315 Low on MOPs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (je3ji)

316 Hey mullahs I got your package right here

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (IG2sK)

317 ". backed up buy all the finest military kaboom our money (and a crapton of standard issue MIC corruption) can buy."


For what reason does the senator from Raytheon rise?

Posted by: The senator from Lockheed Martin at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (lIgBp)

318 horde mind.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (PiwSw)

319 Operation Midnight Hammer

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (CQE5S)

320 14 (fourteen) MOPs were dropped.

HOLEE FUCK

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 08:14 AM (fV+MH)

321
I am too young to remember Kuwait and Desert Storm, [No I'm not], but it was particularly swift& bold, and Bush's approvals went way up.

In, Out, no one got hurt. The way it ought to be.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:14 AM (rP7Op)

322 321 I am too young to remember Kuwait and Desert Storm, [No I'm not]
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 08:14 AM (rP7Op)

heh

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:15 AM (CQE5S)

323 Russia: "Something something peace yadda yadda America Bad whatever."

Mullahs: "So you'll help us then?"

Russia: "What are you, stupid or something?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:15 AM (BjH5D)

324 319 Operation Midnight Hammer
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:13 AM (CQE5S)

Must. Not. Sock. Paul. Pelosi....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 08:15 AM (PiwSw)

325 The Paolo, he is familiar with this, how you say, strike package.

Posted by: The Paolo at June 22, 2025 08:15 AM (lIgBp)

326 Two weeks?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:16 AM (je3ji)

327 Caine is demonstrating excellent presence.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:17 AM (CQE5S)

328 Caine is able.

Posted by: SWIDT? at June 22, 2025 08:17 AM (lIgBp)

329 326 Two weeks?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:16 AM (je3ji)

more or less
--PDT

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:18 AM (CQE5S)

330 Satellite photos of Fordow are beginning to show up this morning. 2 aimpoints with 3x MOPs. Holes can be seen in the mountains above the buried facility.

Hard to tell just how much damage from these photos. I'd presume we'll have orbital assets tasked to monitor the place for the next couple weeks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:18 AM (Q4IgG)

331 General Dan Caine looks directly at the camera when he says it would be a bad idea for Iraq to retaliate.

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 08:18 AM (W23tn)

332 Might be interesting to see seismic recordings from yesterday.

Good money says those MOP detonations were detected.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 08:18 AM (a1415)

333 Two weeks to flatten the mountain.

Posted by: Dancing B-2 pilots on TikTok at June 22, 2025 08:19 AM (lIgBp)

334 Hegseth is a bit less discipined as a speaker in this Q&A.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:20 AM (CQE5S)

335 What does the bad money say?

Posted by: Usually goodbye at June 22, 2025 08:21 AM (lIgBp)

336 Mass shooting at SC VFW Juneteenth celebration. The dead woman's first name was Laporshia. Sounds Amish

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 08:21 AM (IG2sK)

337 I am all agitated that not once did Hegseth and Cain lay out how DEI made all this possible.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 08:21 AM (NXz8h)

338 Defer, Pete, defer.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:21 AM (CQE5S)

339 Amish on amish violence.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:22 AM (je3ji)

340 337 I am all agitated that not once did Hegseth and Cain lay out how DEI made all this possible.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 08:21 AM (NXz8h)

... yet.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:22 AM (CQE5S)

341 Do any of these fuckers speak English?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:22 AM (je3ji)

342 These Amish?


https://tinyurl.com/njf9ntnn

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 22, 2025 08:22 AM (a1415)

343 Two men who most likely haven't slept for hours, Hegseth & Caine are doing great.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 08:23 AM (2NHgQ)

344 Me too, San Franpsycho, my mom loved Ray's two country albums.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 22, 2025 08:23 AM (AcTAo)

345 Why should I listen to a Fox News so-called "expert" about anything?

Because Fox News is where the Trump Administration finds most of its cabinet level staff.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 08:24 AM (a4flb)

346 JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇮🇷 Russia's Dmitry Medvedev says "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."
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Who'd be stupid enough to "give" Iran a couple of their own nuclear warheads?

I think Dmitry's been day drinking.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:24 AM (Q4IgG)

347 330 Satellite photos of Fordow are beginning to show up this morning. 2 aimpoints with 3x MOPs. Holes can be seen in the mountains above the buried facility.

Hard to tell just how much damage from these photos. I'd presume we'll have orbital assets tasked to monitor the place for the next couple weeks.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:18 AM (Q4IgG)

I guess he took "bring the mountain to Mohammed" literally, huh?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:24 AM (BjH5D)

348 the First Video from U.S. Strike on Fordow?

https://tinyurl.com/5a3wc8d9

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 08:25 AM (vwfbS)

349 "Because Fox News is where the Trump Administration finds most of its cabinet level staff.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure"

Oh man. Gutfeld as Press sec.

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 08:26 AM (fV+MH)

350 JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇮🇷 Russia's Dmitry Medvedev says "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."
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Who'd be stupid enough to "give" Iran a couple of their own nuclear warheads?

I think Dmitry's been day drinking.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:24 AM (Q4IgG)
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I think if that were true it would already have happened.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:26 AM (IBQGV)

351 What does the bad money say?
Posted by: Usually goodbye at June 22, 2025 08:21 AM (lIgBp)


The DOW is down a trillion points!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2025 08:27 AM (ExV1e)

352 couple more questions

--Hegseth

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:27 AM (CQE5S)

353 General Caine is definitely an improvement over Milley.

Caine is all business, tight-lipped, and not trying to undermine his boss.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 22, 2025 08:27 AM (6ydKt)

354 General Caine is definitely an improvement over Milley.

Caine is all business, tight-lipped, and not trying to undermine his boss.

Posted by: SpeakingOf


Milley looked hot in heels, so there is that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 08:29 AM (NXz8h)

355 I guess they're running this out to half an hour. Which is cool. I look forward to the transcript.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 08:29 AM (CQE5S)

356 Whoa, woke up to the big news. Good. Obama allowed the start of this insanity in Iran, which would've eventually caused incalculable death when Iran dropped the bomb on Israel (or the US). They've only said that was their aim for how long now? And now we have an American president that is resolute in stopping crazy madmen from mass destruction. Albeit, I haven't read Tommy Veitor's hot takes yet, so I may change my mind....

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2025 08:29 AM (qBdHI)

357 I think if that were true it would already have happened.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:26 AM (IBQGV)

If what Medvedev said is true, then perfect reason to close Iran's airspace, wouldn't it be?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 08:29 AM (0eaVi)

358 So the strike package was the special penetration?

Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2025 08:30 AM (fV+MH)

359 357 I think if that were true it would already have happened.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:26 AM (IBQGV)

If what Medvedev said is true, then perfect reason to close Iran's airspace, wouldn't it be?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 08:29 AM (0eaVi)

If memory serves, Trump has already threatened to flatten Moscow once before, to salutary effect.

Either Mitya's going off script, or they are all completely full of shit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:31 AM (BjH5D)

360 JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇮🇷 Russia's Dmitry Medvedev says "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."
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Who'd be stupid enough to "give" Iran a couple of their own nuclear warheads?

I think Dmitry's been day drinking.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:24 AM (Q4IgG)



Medvedev has been talking out of his ass for awhile now.

He’s become a major hardliner in Russia over the past several years but he has no real power other than what Putin gives him.

I think he’s just talking tough to set himself up as Putin’s tough guy replacement when that time comes, eventually.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 22, 2025 08:31 AM (6ydKt)

361 Who'd be stupid enough to "give" Iran a couple of their own nuclear warheads?

I didn't know the nuclear weapon community agreed upon universal interface, mounting, deployment, and maintenance standards.

Delivery gets interesting. When figuring out who to retaliate against and your nation's radiation signature shows up at ground zero do you think the receiving country is going to just shrug their shoulders?

But what is best about this is Dmitry is saying the quiet part out-loud: Iran was indeed building nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 08:31 AM (a4flb)

362 *Albeit, I haven't read Tommy Veitor's hot takes yet, so I may change my mind....*

But what does Tay-Tay think?

Posted by: AWFLs everywhere at June 22, 2025 08:32 AM (lIgBp)

363 291 Hegseth speaking from the Pentagon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt

(BBC)
Posted by: m
----

Thanks, it was a clean press conference.
Nice to see the guys in control.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 08:32 AM (DNJiU)

364 Perf, you think the book thread might be delayed?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 08:33 AM (0eaVi)

365 Woof, the talking heads on BBC aren't Fox News pretty. Do better BBC, do better.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 08:34 AM (2NHgQ)

366 Russia has spent years pissing about in the steppes with a bunch of drunk cossacks playing with RC helicopters and whatever old army surplus they can cadge together.

America just pressed a button and made an entire country's nuclear program disappear.

Now's not the time for saber rattling, Ivan. Just you hush up and go back to playing in the mud with your retarded cousins and let the rest of the world take care of business.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:34 AM (BjH5D)

367 "Russia's Dmitry Medvedev says "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."

France?

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 08:34 AM (W23tn)

368 I think Dmitry's been day drinking.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Ha! Yeah, be interesting to see how that's followed up.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 08:36 AM (DNJiU)

369 367 "Russia's Dmitry Medvedev says "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."

France?
Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 08:34 AM (W23tn)

To be fair, "zero" is technically a number.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:36 AM (BjH5D)

370 Perf, you think the book thread might be delayed?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 08:33 AM (0eaVi)
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Why? Unless there is huge breaking news, I don't see a reason to delay the Sunday Morning Book Thread. If there is something huge that develops, CBD will no doubt toss in a new thread for discussion.

In fact, I think we all could use a bit of a breather from the news for a couple of hours.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:36 AM (IBQGV)

371 Russia is a gas station.

Posted by: With the GDP of Florida at June 22, 2025 08:36 AM (lIgBp)

372 France?

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 22, 2025 08:34 AM (W23tn)


Rocket man.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 22, 2025 08:37 AM (uqyLy)

373 WAG of the Day: Captain Kimchi had a sudden need to change his underwear yesterday.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 08:37 AM (NXz8h)

374 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:36 AM (IBQGV)

Do they tell the guest posters before they step on a post? I was just wondering. After the news conference, someone may want to throw up a thread about it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 08:37 AM (0eaVi)

375 What does Eric Swallell have to say about this???

Posted by: dantesed at June 22, 2025 08:38 AM (Oy/m2)

376 In fact, I think we all could use a bit of a breather from the news for a couple of hours.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2025 08:36 AM (IBQGV)


This is one of the few remaining news sources with any integrity ... so nope.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 22, 2025 08:39 AM (uqyLy)

377 This is one of the few remaining news sources with any integrity ... so nope.

That is the beauty of this site. If the "Perfessor" knows better than all of us what we should be discussing, we can all loiter here on this thread.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 08:41 AM (a4flb)

378 no reason to delay the Book Thread.

If people want to stay focussed on the news, they have this here thread right here.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 08:41 AM (iJfKG)

379 The Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, announced this morning that he has promoted. General Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad as the next leader of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard and that he will be executing his duties from an undisclosed location in Argentina.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 08:44 AM (NXz8h)

380 Someone should ask Dmitry if Putin's ready to part with a couple of his own nukes. I seriously doubt any country would "give" Iran one of their own nuclear weapons.

The consequences would be... I think, severe.

But as others have pointed out, he underscored the fact that Iran wants nuclear weapons. Everyone knows that. What seems to go over their heads is that Iran would immediately use them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:45 AM (Q4IgG)

381 *This is one of the few remaining news sources with any integrity.*

A common sentiment expressed at yesterday's MoMe.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 08:47 AM (lIgBp)

382 And mossad will be executing its duties in Argentina, also.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 08:48 AM (DNJiU)

383 If any nation just straight up gave the mullahs a nuke, the dumb bastards would probably detonate the thing themselves by mistake in the middle of Teheran while climbing all over it getting selfies.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:50 AM (BjH5D)

384 ....the dumb bastards would probably detonate the thing themselves by mistake in the middle of Teheran while climbing all over it getting selfies.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:50 AM (BjH5D)

I forgot to add, "and then blame the Joos".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:51 AM (BjH5D)

385 If monitor is correct Time Kline, Senate Foreign Relations committee/Armed Services committee, will be on FOX news Sunday. I'll pass.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 08:51 AM (DNJiU)

386
I think it's a given, because of Iran's Islamic and Middle East culture being all honor and revenge oriented,

that they'll try some form of revenger the bombing. Probably, something on the order of the bombing attack on the night club in Germany years ago.

It's stupid because Trump's already warned them that there are plenty of targets still in Iran.

Also, I believe this is the reason he's stopped the Israelis from taking out the Ayatollah and his son. If Ian wants to keep playing this game, well, that chip just went on the table.

So, we'll see if they're smart or just have to get all revengey and shake their little islamic fists and wind up hurting themselves.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 08:52 AM (iJfKG)

387 Way too warm to don pants today!

Posted by: Knickerless Parsons at June 22, 2025 08:52 AM (G5+As)

388 Tim Kaine -
ipad keyboard and I are not getting along well.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 08:53 AM (DNJiU)

389 Mark Warner wasn't briefed about this probably because he leaks like a sieve. He must be crying in his breakfast Scotch

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 08:54 AM (IG2sK)

390 What's a Time Kline?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at June 22, 2025 08:54 AM (lIgBp)

391 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 08:54 AM (cYBz/)

392 General Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad "

And cousin Dirka Dirka Dirka Muhammad.

Posted by: Man at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (tubbA)

393 If any nation just straight up gave the mullahs a nuke, the dumb bastards would probably detonate the thing themselves by mistake in the middle of Teheran while climbing all over it getting selfies.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:50 AM (BjH5D)

Beneath The Planet Of The Apes 2: Mullah Boogaloo.

Posted by: George Taylor at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (R/m4+)

394 So, Senator Kaine, how is your Antifa-identifying son doing these days?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (PiwSw)

395 AUMF, mofos.

I love the smell of petard on a weekend morning.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (BjH5D)

396 I'll have to skip the book thread - sitting here in socks and my wears.

Very comfortable.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (cYBz/)

397 Why is Bernie giving speeches?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (je3ji)

398
Pakistan would seem to be the country that might slip a nuke to Iran,

They've offered(threatened) to give nukes and nuclear support to other islamic countries before,

and they seem to be Straight Up Nutz of the islamic Kind.

They seem to be the most likely culprits.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2025 08:56 AM (iJfKG)

399 391 Good morning good people.
Posted by: Tonypete

What about me?

Posted by: Total Depravity at June 22, 2025 08:56 AM (G5+As)

400 And my other cousin Dirka.

Posted by: Larry at June 22, 2025 08:56 AM (lIgBp)

401 Why is Bernie giving speeches?
Posted by: Boss Moss

One can't be a raving lunatic without raving.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2025 08:57 AM (cYBz/)

402 Good morning and I hope everyone is well. The worry now has less to do with Iranians and more to do with our rabid, delusional Democrat party and the equally dangerous media. Iran, China, Russia, Mexico etc. are no real threat...without them.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 22, 2025 08:58 AM (idFFX)

403 Orange man smoke bad.

https://tinyurl.com/w42dkk3d

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 08:58 AM (SLJQR)

404 that they'll try some form of revenger the bombing. Probably, something on the order of the bombing attack on the night club in Germany years ago.

Posted by: naturalfake
_________

They invented the parthian shot.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2025 08:59 AM (ITkJX)

405 *One can't be a raving lunatic without raving.*

And combing your hair with a balloon.

Posted by: Feel the Bern at June 22, 2025 08:59 AM (lIgBp)

406 Why is Bernie giving speeches?"

'Cause "writing" books for cash is hard?

Posted by: Man at June 22, 2025 08:59 AM (tubbA)

407 Way too warm to don pants today!
Posted by: Knickerless Parsons at June 22, 2025 08:52 AM

No Book Thread for you!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 08:59 AM (yMdDU)

408 No Book Thread for you!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 08:59 AM (yMdDU)

Which is up, by the way.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (0eaVi)

409 New Trump Doctrine for Military Intervention: You can do whatever you want inside your own borders, we don’t care. But if you mess with the US, or threaten the US or its interests, we will Fuck You Up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:01 AM (EVFZ5)

410 I think the majority of Democrats that typically would have been given a "heads up" about "Operation Midnight Hammer" were kept out of the loop... intentionally.

Probably some Republicans too.

I don't know if it's "policy" or just "political good manners" to let members of Congress know about stuff like this, but I'd not tell any of those fuckers a thing.

Ever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 09:02 AM (Q4IgG)

411 Disappointing for Dimitri to say that. Trump had suggested Russia negotiating peace between Israel and Iran. I had dreams of India and Russia putting a pincer on Pakistan.

It's still hot over there. The Baluchs are still pushing and Afghanistan is not happy. No one likes the Pakis except the Chinese and no one likes the Chinese.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 09:03 AM (DNJiU)

412 But where ever Trump leads, we must not return power to the Democrat party. It's our time for the whatever means necessary business.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 22, 2025 09:04 AM (idFFX)

413 398
Pakistan would seem to be the country that might slip a nuke to Iran,


They'll need to dig them out. India bombed their nuke sites a couple of weeks ago, in retaliation for terrorism in Kashmir.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 22, 2025 09:04 AM (uqyLy)

414 Why is Bernie giving speeches?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 08:55 AM (je3ji)
~~~~~

He and AOC and laying the groundwork for their big 2028 campaign for POTUS AND VPOTUS.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (3ImbR)

415 It has been reported House Speaker Johnson and Senate Majority Leader Thune were informed of the strike beforehand.

That means Congress was informed.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (i0F8b)

416 Books

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2025 09:06 AM (3ImbR)

417 It has been reported House Speaker Johnson and Senate Majority Leader Thune were informed of the strike beforehand.
That means Congress was informed.
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (i0F8b)
~~~~~

Hegseth just said at his press conference that they were NOT informed until after the mission was complete.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (3ImbR)

418 Hegseth just said at his press conference that they were NOT informed until after the mission was complete.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2025 09:07 AM (3ImbR)

Better.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 09:09 AM (i0F8b)

419 Is The View a network show, or streaming? In other words, if I felt like self-flagellation tomorrow, where would I watch it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Isn't is an ABC show? Pretty sure it is.
Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2025 06:56 AM (lJ0H4)

Should be carried by your local ABC affiliate.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 22, 2025 09:10 AM (5xuJ/)

420 It’s going to be so much fun to watch the Dems and the “woke right” pissing and moaning and crying about one of the most successful military openings US history.
Not that almost none of them are saying anything on the record so far, because no one has told them what to say yet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:10 AM (EVFZ5)

421 The Bern would make a good VP.

Posted by: He's a bucket of warm spit at June 22, 2025 09:11 AM (lIgBp)

422 If they had told the dems in advance, they might as well have just broadcast the news to the entire world.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 22, 2025 09:12 AM (Lo97M)

423 Not that almost none of them are saying anything on the record so far, because no one has told them what to say yet."

What's really funny is to peruse print versions... talk about clueless, but shows how seriously out of touch w/reality most "press" is (and has been since, well, forever)

Posted by: man at June 22, 2025 09:13 AM (tubbA)

424 What's a UAD?
Posted by: Too lazy to look it up at June 22, 2025 07:38 AM (lIgBp)

Took longer for you to type that than to "look it up".

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 22, 2025 09:18 AM (5xuJ/)

425 346 JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇮🇷 Russia's Dmitry Medvedev says "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."
----------
Who'd be stupid enough to "give" Iran a couple of their own nuclear warheads?

I think Dmitry's been day drinking.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2025 08:24 AM (Q4IgG)


Heh. He didn't say how they would be delivered.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2025 09:33 AM (rF2iL)

426 420 It’s going to be so much fun to watch the Dems and the “woke right” pissing and moaning and crying about one of the most successful military openings US history.
Not that almost none of them are saying anything on the record so far, because no one has told them what to say yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 09:10 AM (EVFZ5)

I believe Nancy Pelosi went off the reservation a bit.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 09:35 AM (CQE5S)

427 Bombtastic>Bombastic

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 22, 2025 09:41 AM (7NkZG)

428 427 Bombtastic>Bombastic
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 22, 2025 09:41 AM (7NkZG)

Boombastic

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2025 09:56 AM (vZUXb)

429 Clinton gave Iran uranium

Obola gave Iran 1.7 billion.

Biden freed up 16 billion for Iran.

Must be Trump's fault.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 22, 2025 09:59 AM (7NkZG)

430 I'm seeing a lot of pooh poohing that Fordow is toast. Really do not know about the ordnance used, however I gotta think that several MOPS on one site, if not wiping it out had to have caused massive damage.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 10:21 AM (2NHgQ)

431 'm seeing a lot of pooh poohing that Fordow is toast. Really do not know about the ordnance used, however I gotta think that several MOPS on one site, if not wiping it out had to have caused massive damage.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 22, 2025 10:21 AM (2NHgQ)
~~~~~

Fourteen MOPs were used in total on three sites.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2025 10:25 AM (3ImbR)

432 Hit it again.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at June 22, 2025 10:25 AM (Ef4Ak)

433 @Pixy Misa: It fell down behind the sofa.

*snrks* Thanks for that one Pixy, you gave me a good laugh!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2025 05:52 AM (O7YUW)

I thought the dog nudged it under the sofa, and looking underneath whining that it's out of reach.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 10:40 AM (S/Y4j)

434 A number of countries are talking tough, condemning the attack.

I gotta laugh. It's such PURE BS. Not only have none of them lifted a finger to help Iran, but most of them are probably terrified at the prospect of some crazy Shiite with a Nuke. They're probably drinking champagne behind the scenes, toasting the "Great Satan", and getting a good belly laugh out of it.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 10:48 AM (hOOi9)

435 How come we never hear what 10/7 will have brought from Israel, but now we should be quaking in our shoes because we hammered the biggest terror state that funded and trained them?

Why don't we EVER hear how Iran has it coming after decades of global slaughter?

These people are tedious
Go to mars for fuxks sake

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at June 22, 2025 10:56 AM (XLfSN)

436 434 A number of countries are talking tough, condemning the attack.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 10:48 AM (hOOi9)

Which countries?

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 10:58 AM (CQE5S)

437 415 It has been reported
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 09:05 AM (i0F8b)

ooohhh

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 10:59 AM (CQE5S)

438 I guess we can look forward to the No Mullahs rallies on July 4th.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 11:10 AM (lIgBp)

439 377 If the "Perfessor" knows better than all of us what we should be discussing
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 08:41 AM (a4flb)

That's not at all what the Perfessor said.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 11:12 AM (CQE5S)

440 Books are good for propping open doors.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2025 11:19 AM (je3ji)

441
Is The View a network show, or streaming? In other words, if I felt like self-flagellation tomorrow, where would I watch it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

==============

Good morning! Still around, Wolfus? You can find the shows on YouTube after they've streamed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2025 11:46 AM (CmrHb)

Saturday Night "Club ONT" June 21, 2025 [The 3 Ds]

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NOT the Super Secret Location of the MoMe. Or IS it??

Welcome to Club ONT! A collaboration of your Sunday through Wednesday ONT Crew - The Disco, The Doggo, and The Dino. For those that didn't skip town, let's keep the fire pits burning and the sharp commentary rolling.

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There's obviously some major news breaking this evening, and thoughts may be running amok. This thread is open for discussion-whether you want to dive into the serious stuff or just take a break and enjoy the light-hearted content and comments.

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Saturday Night Joke and Other Funnies

A man walks into a bar and says, "Quick! Give me a shot of whiskey before the trouble starts!"

The bartender shrugs and pours him a shot. The man grabs it, downs it, slams the glass on the bar, and says, "Quick! Give me another shot before the trouble starts!"

The bartender pours another. Again, the man drinks it fast and slams the glass down. "Quick! Give me another shot before the trouble starts!"

The bartender, now curious, says, "Okay... but when are you gonna pay for these drinks?"

The man sighs and says, "Now the trouble starts."

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One day, a gynecologist got bored with his job. He realized that he had spent many years training with his hands and decided he would switch to careers to something else that he could use his hands with. Not wanting the stress of being a medical professional, he decided to attend vocational school to learn to be an automotive mechanic. He attended all the classes and studied diligently.

The final exam tested his ability to take apart and reassemble an engine. When the results of his final exam came in, he was perplexed. It showed that he got 150% on the test. The doctor figured this had to be a mistake so he called his instructor at the vocational school.

Doc: "There must be some mistake. It says I got a 150% on the final exam. Could you explain that?"

Instructor: "For the first part of the test you took apart the engine perfectly. That counted for 50 points of your test. Then you put the engine back together perfectly. That was another 50 points. But those last 50 points? That's because none of us have ever seen anyone do it through the muffler before."

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Club ONT On Location!

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Earlier today, a bunch of Hordelings assembled at a super secret location somewhere near our nation's capital. NoVa MoMe 2025 is in the books. Many thanks to WeaselBell Productions for organizing another outstanding event!

2 of the 3 D's, The Disco and The Dino, were there for the fun. The Doggo got distracted by a chew toy and was unable to attend. That's OK, he's still a good boy.

Tonight we are happy to bring you some wit and wisdom from some of the MoMe attendees. Some of these comments were overhead, some were provided in writing.

As seen on the menu at the MoMe:
Mocktails - You order them and we mock you

- observed by blaster



"I need a drink."

- Old Lady Emhoff



The most confusing comment of the day:

"Happy to see everyone again!"

- Beth, who isn't coming



From a lurker and first time attendee, when asked why she doesn't comment:

"For the longest time I didn't know how to find the comments, so I just read the content."

Also from the lurker lady, after finding out she was sitting near TRex, the host of the Hobby Thread:

"I love the Hobby Thread!"

[Disco says - this was likely after she received a twenty from The Dino]
[Dino says - no idea what you're talking about. She loves pictures but reads the posts for the articles. ]




A common theme

"Wonder what Piper would say about Horde MoMe fashion choices?"

"Can't wait to see Piper's fashion write-up of the NoVa MoMe."



"Don't try to get a quote from me, Disco Boy - or you might get shivved."

- Bluebell (OK, maybe she didn't say that, but she was probably thinking it.)



"If you have nothing to say, it's alright"

- Doof, as told to Jinx the Cat



We end with the comment of the day. It warrants a photo, not just a transcription

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We are unaware of any arrests, unpaid bar tabs, or drunken marriage proposals that may have occurred at this year's NoVa MoMe. And frankly, we wouldn't tell you about them even if we did know about them. To be sure you don't miss out on MoMe details, you need to be there!

If you haven't done so, the Club implores you to make your plans to attend TxMoMe-10 in October. No excuses -- just be there!

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Important stuff for Morons visiting the DC area

10 Of The Best Breweries In Washington DC That Are Lager Than Life

Read more: 9 D.C. Bars You Need To Visit At Least Once In Your Life

Hop to it. What the ale are you waiting you? Maybe you need a porter to carry your bags?

Rooftop Bars & Restaurants to Check Out in DC

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Drink of the Night

Bow and Arrow

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1 oz Bourbon

1 oz Mescal

3/4 oz Lime Juice

3/4 oz Pineapple Juice

1/2 oz Simple Syrup

Add all ingredients to shaker - with ice. Fine strain and garnish with pineapple fronds.

Argue about bows.


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Club ONT brings you "King of the Eddies" Music

With so many Eddies in music to choose from, which one carries the honor of the Club ONT mystery King of the Eddies link? Eddie Van Halen? Eddie Rabbit? Eddie Vedder? Eddie Murphy? Eddie from Iron Maiden? Eddie Hazel? Eddie Kendricks? Eddie and the Cruisers?

You'll have to click to find out.

Did we miss any other Eddies?



No mysteries here - just stuff that rhymes with Eddie







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Top 10ish comments of the week. Or thereabout...

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Club ONT brought to you by: Raffle Tickets. Keeping hopes alive and expectations low. No Club prizes this evening - hit the comments with your storied raffle wins or the ones that got away.

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Club ONT respectfully asks that patrons act with care when the DJ asks everyone to "put their hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care." The ceiling fans are lower than you might expect. Thank you.

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Comments

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1 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (cYBz/)

2
What a day!!1

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (3ek7K)

3 Yay!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)

4 st?
Not possible

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (FJMtP)

5
Notified the last thread

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (3ek7K)

6 Yay, Go Skateboarding Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (lUFok)

7 They did it. Welp. we'll see. Hopefully all ends well....hopefully.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (hftn9)

8 I heard there was an ONT so Iran right over.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (dDmld)

9 I know where that top pic is at! Used to work near it.


Evenin'


Slow news day. Sorry about missing the NoVAMoMe. Work is a harsh mistress.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (PGK1w)

10 Regarding the Saturday Night joke - My wife received a solicitation from some shark law firm today basically asking if she had ever been touched inappropriately during a Gyno exam.

This got me to thinking - where exactly is the line between a medically appropriate, complete exam and some guy getting his jollies?

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmm. . . . .".

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (cYBz/)

11 Anybody knows what part Presdent Obama has played in twonites mission to hit Iron?

I be bets he be told Trump whats to dew because Trump is a Idoit !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein From Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (q/j2W)

12 those comments of the week!

I'm crying

ANYWAY

hi! just a quick check in and I gotta go to bed. been a busy weekend for us - for a lot of us!

glad the MoMe went well!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (Pv3Rg)

13
THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS!!!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)

14 I heard there was an ONT so Iran right over.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (dDmld)
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Iran so far away.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (79pEw)

15 Thx 3D's.
So anything happening tonight? Seems quiet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (IG2sK)

16 Anybody knows what part Presdent Obama has played in twonites mission to hit Iron?

I be bets he be told Trump whats to dew because Trump is a Idoit !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein From Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (q/j2W)

He painted the targets on the ground fluorescent yellow, warning Trump not to strike there.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (S/Y4j)

17 just got Surber's substack on this - "Trump ends Iranian nuke program"

well put!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (Pv3Rg)

18 Good evening morons and thanks to the Troika

Imma little miffed because I pwned the troll downstairs but it got willard.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (RIvkX)

19 I saw Shattered Testicles open for Broken Windows at The Starland Ballroom in 85.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (XV/Pl)

20 So a fiery but mostly peaceful planeflight over Iran I guess is how the FNM is reporting the strikes?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (t0Rmr)

21 no tent should be THAT big
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)

Still stuck on beer and wine?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (0eaVi)

22 *brings out trays of poppers & buffalo wings*

*sets up pitchers & glasses along the bar*

WOO HOO! Happy Caturday Night at Club 3D!!!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)

23 Well, happy solstice, everybody.

Posted by: mindful webworker - now, shorter days at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (63lGh)

24 I suppose You People will claim it's just a "coincidence" that the NoVa MoMee took place only hours before the bombing?!?!?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (ULPxl)

25

Eddie Haskell

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (63Dwl)

26 A better Saturday Night Joke?

Hey Ayatollah, I'm not even going to think about bombing Iran until 14 days from now.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (aBgBM)

27 But those last 50 points? That's because none of us have ever seen anyone do it through the muffler before.

A punchline with a bonus pun. Well played.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (DgGvY)

28 *pitcher of Caesars for AOP*

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (rdVOm)

29
Obama would have told the Iranians what was planned. Because the prissy little ponce would be in a snizz because his whole foreign policy just collapsed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (QnmlO)

30 The Tits are Not Qom

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (yjTHn)

31 Did we miss any other Eddies?
_______
In the Hall of the Mountain King.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (od0dV)

32 Good evening Ds!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (WZKNR)

33 Good evening, COMM!

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (41CYW)

34

Eddie Cochran

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (63Dwl)

35 32 Good evening Ds!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM
***
Howdy!

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (IQ6Gq)

36 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (+qU29)

37 No mysteries here - just stuff that rhymes with Eddie

The 3D's post music that "rhymes with Eddie."

And there's no Rush?

I'd call that a mystery.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (DgGvY)

38 Senior Division - Eddie Cochran(Summertime Blues)

Posted by: Joe Redfield at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (KOtXO)

39 I suppose You People will claim it's just a "coincidence" that the NoVa MoMee took place only hours before the bombing?!?!?!

It was classic misdirection. The ayatollahs were all wondering WFT was going on in DC.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (Riz8t)

40 Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)

41 MoMes are fun.
Go to a MoMe.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)

42 Eddy Grant

youtu.be/Yxep-9BQ6Uo

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (rdVOm)

43 Schweddy, as in Schweddy Balls

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (IG2sK)

44 Our news media sucks ass. They are so anti USA. Guess they can't help themselves. Idiots are going to be stupid.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (ilX37)

45 38 Senior Division - Eddie Cochran(Summertime Blues)
Posted by: Joe Redfield
---------------
*fistbump* linked that one in the Tues ONT.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (41CYW)

46 Sorry I'm late, the kettle asked me to test to see if the pot was colorblind.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (uyIjy)

47 24 I suppose You People will claim it's just a "coincidence" that the NoVa MoMee took place only hours before the bombing?!?!?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM
***
NoVa MoMe was in "silent but deadly" mode for OPSEC purposes.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

48 Did you even consider Duane Eddy?

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (uyIjy)

49 Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)

Nah. Most people including the young love strength, spine and will, and Trump is projecting all three.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (E0p3T)

50 Weird. We were expecting another pallet of cash.

Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)

51 *brings out trays of poppers & buffalo wings*

[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)


Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)

52 Burnin the 10 o'clock oil I see.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (36PRH)

53 I hate otters.

Posted by: Beaver at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (tCdjd)

54 I didn't even realize it was late evening, just reading the news, and wammo! it's after 10pm

Posted by: banana Dream at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (cduTK)

55 My husband doesn't watch much news, he pretty much gets it from a comedian named Kellerman on his FB reels. Both of us were distracted from news today due to other stuff. Tonight he was doomscrolling and Kellerman came on FB live, said he was going to report the press conference. We rushed to his YT and caught the full presser.

It's wild, all the ways we get the news now. But not from the old dinos.

Anyway, Kellerman's comedic news bits are fun.
https://www.youtube.com/@KellermanKomedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8JRBUOsjvc

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (gWBY1)

56 I just heard a federal judge is ordering Trump to rebuild Iran's nuclear facilities.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (aaRct)

57 I napped after dinner
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (Splbu)

58 Some of Sarah Hoyt's memes from today:
https://shorturl.at/uq8qb
https://shorturl.at/12Ena
https://shorturl.at/Ad9Kv

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (ULPxl)

59 Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!
Posted by: Kindltot

Spoken like a true Oregonian...

/s

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (rdVOm)

60 Re: that drink order..
Mescal in my bourbon? That's sort of like how crack was invented, amirite.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (36PRH)

61 And STAY off my raft!

Posted by: Otter at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (i0F8b)

62 I hope, like the movie thread, that this gets recycled.

CBC is not impressed.

And the Dems had a few hours notice and no details. Smart move.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (jvJvP)

63 I napped after dinner
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?


People are freaking out because Trump dropped something.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (lUFok)

64 >>> 41 MoMes are fun.
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)

Do what he say, do what he say!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (ULPxl)

65 Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)

They'll forget about it within a week.

No we know why he extended their TikTok for a while.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (Dnobf)

66 I napped after dinner
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport

Not much, we didn't miss a thing.

Posted by: USAF at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (TfUTr)

67 I just heard a federal judge is ordering Trump to rebuild Iran's nuclear facilities.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (aaRct)

I almost hope one of them does. Trump can then say that we have to send our Best and Brightest to do the work. Of course, that means the activist judges and flamboyant gays and trans.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (S/Y4j)

68 as the old Beach Boys song went:

Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...

Posted by: Pikov Andropov at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (QyD0M)

69 Trump just lost the Tide Pod eaters youth vote.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (jAG+j)

70 >>I napped after dinner
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?

Relax. Some people did some things.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (rdVOm)

71 Y’all. I am really laughing right now. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)

72 @56 Not bad! *tips the waitress*

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (36PRH)

73 Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)

They'll forget about it within a week.


No, I don't think they will. They will remember that this is what an actual leader looks like.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)

74 Another judge is ordering the B2 crews to return to Iran and surrender.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (aaRct)

75 Hello, Horde! 😊♥️

'Mericuh, F*** yeah!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (SRRAx)

76 >>> 71 Y’all. I am really laughing right now. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)

*With* us, right???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (ULPxl)

77 Drink of the Night
Bow and Arrow


Alternate drink of the night:

The Smoking Crater

1 oz Islay scotch

Enjoy the aroma.

Posted by: mikeski is enjoying some Ardbeg at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (DgGvY)

78 Weird. We were expecting another pallet of cash.
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)

Oh sorry, you're supposed to get one. Let us know where you are and we'll have it right over.

Posted by: Mossad agents in Biden and Obama masks at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (Dnobf)

79 Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)

They'll forget about it within a week.

No we know why he extended their TikTok for a while.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (Dnobf)

Depends what happens in the next week or month. If it’s a one and done, maybe. If there’s more. Fehhhgetaboutit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (/CkK4)

80 The only way to impeach Trump over this is for dems to win the midterms. And at the current moment, that seems unlikely. But we'll see how events unfold.

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (gWBY1)

81 MoMes are fun.
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)

Do what he say, do what he say!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I don't like to encourage people to attend.
The fewer folks show, the better I look.
(Kinda "last man on earth" strategy.)

Posted by: USAF at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (TfUTr)

82 That's because none of us have ever seen anyone do it through the muffler before."
---

bwahaha

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (Splbu)

83 Glad the NoVaMoMe was a success. I went last year and brought everyone down.

Or it could have been Biden. You know, that sonofabitch. He ruins a lot of stuff, and maybe I just happened to be standing there.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)

84 Swim for it, boys! But you’re not going to out swim an otter!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (qgNn3)

85 13
THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)

Why do you need to count threads?

Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (uyIjy)

86 darn...off sock

Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (TfUTr)

87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

88 Well a POTUS finally finished Reagan's song!

There may well be repercussions. I'm okay with the possibility.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (+WYXX)

89 Just because:

youtu.be/-s3scfw7DTc

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (rdVOm)

90 THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)

Why do you need to count threads?
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (uyIjy)

The higher the thread count, the softer the sheets.

Posted by: Wamsutta at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (0eaVi)

91 I was just playin' boys! I wasn't going to ravage your tender young buttocks! Come back in the water!

Posted by: Otter at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (PGK1w)

92 Deep in the depths of hell Juan McStain is smiling tonight.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (/CkK4)

93 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?

Please, please, please let it be "Edsel."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (/y8xj)

94 I hope people stayed at the MoMe long enough to hear the news, though I know that's unlikely. I'd have bought everyone a drink if I'd been there.

Ronald thanks Donald from the Beyond for taking the next step with Iran.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (PkFyV)

95 76 >>> 71 Y’all. I am really laughing right now. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)

*With* us, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June

Well of course!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (pZEOD)

96 A high thread count is the sheet

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (yjTHn)

97 Skimming YouTube, and came across a video on funny signs. I wish I knew where this one came from:

Closed due to the abundancy of stupid people

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (S/Y4j)

98 People are freaking out because Trump dropped something.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

What a butterfingers! 😁

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (Splbu)

99 >>> No, I don't think they will. They will remember that this is what an actual leader looks like.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)

They weren't alive or old enough to remember the Obama era takedown of Osama Bin Laden. This might be that "Zero Dark Thirty" moment for them.

I still remember vividly that evening, and all my liberal friends suddenly getting hard ons for the military and POTUS striking a target WITHOUT congressional approval. But no one threatened to impeach Obama over it.

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (gWBY1)

100 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
-------
Found On Road Dead - Ow!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (XZ5S6)

101 I hate that we’re at war once again with a shithole 3rd world backwater that will lead to thousands of dead boys and cost trillions.

But on the bright side it does put a crimp in the pride month festivities. So there’s that. Silver linings.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (/CkK4)

102 I wonder if someone was smart enough to send sample collection flights through the Iranian debris field?
I assume the Israeli's would have.
There's a lot of info to be gleaned from isotope ratios.

Posted by: retropox at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (a8Nkr)

103 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

Two Weeks

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (yjTHn)

104 MSNBC's Trita Parsi is of the opinion that the Jews tricked US Trump into signing up for an endless war with Iran. You cannot make this crap up.

MSNBC is questioning why US Trump signed his social media post announcing the Iranian bombings as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (NXz8h)

105 Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)

Yep. Now he has no chance of being re-elected in in 2028.

Wait. What?

Never mind.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (J+OHH)

106 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg

I went right to Barak.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (NXz8h)

107 All I want is for JD Vance to jump on X and tell Ilhan "BroFo" Omar not to worry, all that happened was "some pilots did something."

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (Dsfkc)

108 Im a bow man tonight drinking bourbon and water minus mazcal (the arrow) because I'm already shot in the ass..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (gAN4h)

109 Believe it or not, there are guys who are bored to death staring at quim all day! Helps if you’re gay.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (qgNn3)

110 I was thinking his chances in 2028 just went up

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (+qU29)

111 THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


I have my simple solution for that: Shut off the computer and go to bed.

Hey, club guzzlers: My doc has told me to lay off the booze for the interim. So, y'all have a shot for me.

G'nite, y'all. 💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - tomorrow will be warm and humid at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (63lGh)

112 103 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg
-------------
LOL.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (41CYW)

113 *brings out trays of poppers & buffalo wings*

[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ

Atomic wings?

Posted by: Miklos opted for Falafel at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (UYy+W)

114 Elizabeth Warren calls Trump’s Iran strike ‘unconstitutional’

Bury my heart at Wounded Knee.

Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (R6Hhu)

115 Edward MacDowell, American composer and pianist.

Rhymes with Eddie: Bette, as in She's Got Bette Davis Eyes.

Posted by: Official Delurker, likes most types of music at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (M/92e)

116 >>> 103 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (yjTHn)

Candygram for Mongo

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (ULPxl)

117 It's kind of confusing to me when I read that we bombed Iran's nuclear sites and yet Iran says, "No damage." I guess they're expected to say that however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (2GCMq)

118 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

How duz my azz taste

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)

119 Supposedly Iran is saying they knew about this strike ages ago and evacuated everything important from Fordow. Any validity to that? Or just a front to save face?

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gWBY1)

120 They can't impeach Trump over this. Trump is Commander and Chief, he's doing his job. I don't know why people like AOC blurt this kind of stuff out. Well it's Saturday night, she's probably drunk. But that's no excuse. Stupid bent.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (ilX37)

121 114 Elizabeth Warren calls Trump’s Iran strike ‘unconstitutional’

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To be fair, there is nothing in the Constitution about bombing crazy mullahs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (dDmld)

122 THERE ARE FOUR THREADS - Picard , maybe

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (IG2sK)

123 >>> 119 Supposedly Iran is saying they knew about this strike ages ago and evacuated everything important from Fordow. Any validity to that? Or just a front to save face?
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gWBY1)

They could have evacuated things Out Of An Abundance Of Caution, although I suppose that would be difficult to hide from satellite view.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (ULPxl)

124 Yep. Now he has no chance of being re-elected in in 2028.

Wait. What?

Never mind.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (J+OHH)

When Dems flip 50 seats in the house will that make a difference?

I don’t think most 29 year olds here understand how opposed to endless war the younger generations are. While Fox News is stroking it tonight, as are their boomer viewers, millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck? And they’re not going to sit back and shrug. They’re pissed and their outlet is going to be voting Democrat next time. And in 2028.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)

125 Also, I'm sure that if Trump had to consult with Congress it would take weeks and somebody in Congress would leak it the Iranians.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (2GCMq)

126 There is iron in Elizabeth Warren’s words, NOT!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (qgNn3)

127 Iran has changed the pronouns of their nuclear sites to: was/were.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (W/lyH)

128 It's kind of confusing to me when I read that we bombed Iran's nuclear sites and yet Iran says, "No damage." I guess they're expected to say that however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (2GCMq)
---
'Tis but a scratch
-Black Knight with his arm off

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (0aYVJ)

129 MSNBC's Trita Parsi
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram


I had a case of Tritaparsi when I was 23. Bedridden for weeks.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (DgGvY)

130 @101 are you about done?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (36PRH)

131
I think this whole this was planned out with us and Israel to the second. All this stuff about "Will Trump attack", #TwoWeeks, oh Trump is vacillating and mad at Tulsi, and all that was just theater.

The whole "B-2s going over the Pacific and refueling NOTAMs" was all further deception and "squirrel!"

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (w6EFb)

132 If Jimmy Carter was alive today, he would be rolling over in his grave...

Posted by: Kamil Harris at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (q/j2W)

133 Preznit Richard Punch: Ayatollah Khamenei are you willing g to negotiate for peace now?

Ayatolla Khamenei: No you infidel dog. You haven't even put a s ratch on our nuclear facilities.

PRP: (SLAMS PHONE DOWN. WAITS 10 SE ONDS AND THEN DIAL UP AYATOLLA KHAMENEI)

PRP: If you even harm one hair on the head of one american....

AK: We will do as we please to the great Satan we will....

PRP: (slams phone down waits ten seconds and calls AK back)

AK: WTF?

PRP: I'm in your blind spot and I'm coming for you. Kill one more American or Israeli and you will wish I came with a MOP. (Slams phone down)

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (OA79/)

134 Howdy, Miklos!

"atomic" wings? Give me the recipe & I'll make a batch of those, too!

Alternatively-- get in the kitchen y'self!

Welcome. May I buy you a drink, sir?

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (rdVOm)

135 >>Missed the festivities. So Trump did it. This will decimate his support among young people.

So he won't win reelection in 2028?

Oh no.

For the first time in 46 years Iran got its shit pushed in. It's ok to win. Good even.

The word just went out around the world, do not fuck around with the United States of America or we will inflict a price you can't afford. It's about damn time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (viF8m)

136
Chairman,

No he's still spouting doom and gloom.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (3ek7K)

137 @124 sounds like you're concern trolling the hell out of us.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:04 PM (36PRH)

138 Glad the NoVaMoMe was a success. I went last year and brought everyone down.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)

No, you didn't bring anyone down.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (PkFyV)

139 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (/CkK4)

All the "boys" involved are fine. Trump didn't send in troops, he took out some targets. He's done it before, without boots on the ground.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (Ezs10)

140 "Trump said. 'Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.'"

No more incessant 'Iran is X weeks away from building an A-bomb.' At least, I hope no more.

Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (t9lPv)

141 Here it sit broken hearted paid 100 million but only farted

Posted by: Barky o numbnutz at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (OA79/)

142 > 103 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

I believe it was "Wing Attack Plan R"

Posted by: MAJOR KONG at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (R6Hhu)

143 >> Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?

Operation "The Paulo". You know, deep penetration.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (w6EFb)

144 Sweep the leg.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (tuLbh)

145 The word just went out around the world, do not fuck around with the United States of America or we will inflict a price you can't afford. It's about damn time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (viF8m)



He just reserved a place on Mt Rushmore.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (aaRct)

146 120 They can't impeach Trump over this. Trump is Commander and Chief, he's doing his job. I don't know why people like AOC blurt this kind of stuff out. Well it's Saturday night, she's probably drunk. But that's no excuse. Stupid bent.
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (ilX37)

All that's really required for an impeachment are a simple majority of votes in the House of Representatives. No misconduct required. (e.g. Trump's first term.)

Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (uyIjy)

147 Hallmark Channel announces a new romcom movie, Two Weeks in Fordow, staring Barak Obama as Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and Xerxes the Goat as Xerxes the Goat.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (NXz8h)

148 Wait, the people who endlessly chant, "No Nukes! No Nukes!" are going to be upset Trump took out Iran's nuclear weapons project?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (i0F8b)

149 118 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)

Holey Moses

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)

150 51 *brings out trays of poppers & buffalo wings*

[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)

Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)

Amyl and the Sniffers > Amyl Nitrate
https://youtu.be/uSyig1NQERQ?si=wg7gaDJQzV5aXjSw

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (8hxDK)

151 130 @101 are you about done?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025

Every party needs a pooper.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (pZEOD)

152 Kindltot-- I hope you noticed my sarc tag! No hard feeelin's dude!

(I lived in Oregon, once upon a time... loved it)

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (rdVOm)

153 If the nuclear threat is really over now, we can let Israel handle the rest of the Iran problem, I hope.

Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (t9lPv)

154 I guess we sent the mullahs a present or two while I wasn't looking.

Rats. I wanted to watch it live.

Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (89Sog)

155 Over at "Legal Insurrection" there's a headline,, "Democrats furious at Trump bombing of nuclear site." My question : "When are Democrats NOT furious at Trump'?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (2GCMq)

156 Missing space....

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (89Sog)

157 No, I don't think they will. They will remember that this is what an actual leader looks like.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)

It all depends on what happens in the next few days. If things go south, there will be trouble.

But if it turns right - everyone lives a winner. Always have, always will.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (EVFZ5)

158 Co-sponsors of the War Powers Resolution, Reps. Ro Khanna, D-Calif, and Thomas Massie, R-Ky., were quick to criticize President Donald Trump for greenlighting attacks on three nuclear sites in Iran Saturday night.

"This is not constitutional," Massie said, responding to Trump's Truth Social post announcing the strikes on Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan in Iran.


Oh, but it was OK when Chocolate Jesus did !!!!!!

During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. In fact, Obama authorized 54 drone strikes alone in Pakistan during his first year in office. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, murdering as many as 41 Pakistani civilians. The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (BltCC)

159 149 118 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)

Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)

Operation Slow Ride.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (OA79/)

160 Fen beat me to it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (+qU29)

161 Ha. Fox is reporting the bunker busters were dropped through air shafts.

They got their mission planning from Star Wars.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (viF8m)

162 This might jeopardize Trump winning a peace prize for the Pakistan/India peace negotiations (he was nominated by Pakistan), but like they'd ever give him an award anyway.

It will be interesting to see if this spurs any gen z to turn out for the No Kings protests on July 4, but I highly doubt it.

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (gWBY1)

163 Operation Qom Stain

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (gKWVE)

164 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
_______
Operation FAFO.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (od0dV)

165 Gee, I guess "all-uh" didn't will the eye-ranians to win.

Tsk. Pity.

Oooh-- Jell-O shots!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (rdVOm)

166 Kudos to the B2 pilots. Hellava long flight. Hope they're on the ground now and free to fart at will.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (RAtNF)

167
Operation Kiss Your Ass Goodbye

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (3ek7K)

168 Over at "Legal Insurrection" there's a headline,, "Democrats furious at Trump bombing of nuclear site." My question : "When are Democrats NOT furious at Trump'?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (2GCMq)



Exactly. Democrats are always furious. It's like it's their job.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (aaRct)

169 A funny footnote to the election. The beautiful and charming Sunny Hostin asked Kamala what she would do differently than Biden and Kamala responded that she would do nothing differently. That answer has been pointed to as the moment Kamala lost the election. Now Sunny . . .

Nicholas Fondacaro@NickFondacaro
"I feel terrible."
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.

https://is.gd/FLPKdQ

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Of course, no thought was given to what was best for the country.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (L/fGl)

170 All that's really required for an impeachment are a simple majority of votes in the House of Representatives. No misconduct required. (e.g. Trump's first term.)
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (uyIjy)

----------

Trump only needs two more impeachments to get a free six-inch sandwich from Subway.

*hot sandwiches excluded

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (dDmld)

171 For the first time in 46 years Iran got its shit pushed in. It's ok to win. Good even.
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Over the last 8 days, Iran--and their supporters around the world--endlessly threatened ... everything.

And delivered ... nothing.

I gotta say, just how much of the "threat" of Iran was cardboard tanks and wooden guns?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (zwX/r)

172 Massie and Green can suck my gonads.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (VofaG)

173 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (Splbu)

174 It’s going to be fun to watch the Dems piss and moan - especially if this turns out to be the one sided victory I think it’s going to be.

Trump may turn out to be the most popular wartime leader since FDR.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (EVFZ5)

175 >>> Hallmark Channel announces a new romcom movie, Two Weeks in Fordow, staring Barak Obama as Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and Xerxes the Goat as Xerxes the Goat.

Its sequel is "I Didn't Walk Towards Your Love, Iran."

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (gWBY1)

176 124 I don’t think most 29 year olds here understand how opposed to endless war the younger generations are. While Fox News is stroking it tonight, as are their boomer viewers, millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck? And they’re not going to sit back and shrug. They’re pissed and their outlet is going to be voting Democrat next time. And in 2028.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)

Let's at least wait a few days to see what the polls look like and not just assume what millions of people we've never met are feeling right now.

Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (uyIjy)

177 >>> 169 A funny footnote to the election. The beautiful and charming Sunny Hostin asked Kamala what she would do differently than Biden and Kamala responded that she would do nothing differently. That answer has been pointed to as the moment Kamala lost the election. Now Sunny . . .

Nicholas Fondacaro@NickFondacaro
"I feel terrible."
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.

https://is.gd/FLPKdQ

-
Of course, no thought was given to what was best for the country.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (L/fGl)

But we can still point and laugh at her Maoist struggle session.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (ULPxl)

178 The majority of normal American youth will be glad to not have to think about Iran, if they ever did. The dems will screech about this but they will look as ridiculously out of touch as they usually do. Trump has the support of the people and the dems are so hated by the normies, when he campaigns for repubs in the midterms, he'll get the votes.

Posted by: Megthered at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (GOJbT)

179 Does the 48 hour rule regarding MSM breaking news apply here?

I keeed

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (36PRH)

180 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)

Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)

Operation Slow Ride.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

Free Bird.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (L/fGl)

181 I don't know if the Israelis "ordered" the US to do this (lol), but one thing I would believe is that they showed the US how to actually do something without it being known in advance and leaked everywhere. The misdirection and opsec showed by the US is pretty surprising tbh given our history.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (8hxDK)

182 millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck?"

Like all of my kidlets and friends who are celebrating wildly?

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (tubbA)

183
From something I was seeing, the real B-2 strike force flew east near Spain, refueling near "Moron Air Base" in Spain, and also Crete, and went into Iran. Now, that's some claim on X I was seeing.

Moron Air Base.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)

184 I'm thinking Elon Musk won't be posting to X:
"We have just uploaded Starlink to Iran as a humanitarian effort.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (gAN4h)

185 How is the Left going to keep track of what foreign flags to bring to their mostly peaceful insurrections?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (NXz8h)

186 It's Time "Its Go Time Donald" Went

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (Splbu)

187 Wait, the people who endlessly chant, "No Nukes! No Nukes!" are going to be upset Trump took out Iran's nuclear weapons project?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (i0F8b)

Because what they really desired in their heart of hearts was unilateral disarmament so the Soviets could conquer us and usher in the glorious revolution.

Their politics are quite literally: America bad, capitalism bad, Christians and Jews bad, men bad, white bad.

Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (aqZN1)

188 Poppin open a beer and raising a glass to PDT, the USAF and in memory of Jim SND.

They can suck on their 'US can not do anything' of 1979....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (QGaXH)

189 Operation Rock the Casbah

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (+qU29)

190 161 Ha. Fox is reporting the bunker busters were dropped through air shafts.

They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (viF8m)

Hah. I told you the air shafts were the key! But dang, those were some big motherlovin grenades. Git up offa that thing! Heh! HOT TUB!

Posted by: James Brown at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (OA79/)

191 millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck?"

Like all of my kidlets and friends who are celebrating wildly?
Posted by: Man
------------
Same. +1.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (41CYW)

192 Iran's most effective response to this will be through...Federal judges.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (aaRct)

193 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (dDmld)

LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (2GCMq)

194 Wait - they put the bombs down the air shafts at Fordow, aka Luke Skywalker in Star Waers?

George Lucas, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (SRRAx)

195 I hate that we’re at war once again with a shithole 3rd world backwater that will lead to thousands of dead boys and cost trillions.


Or not.

Keep seeing this assumption stated as fact.

As for 'we're at war', well, we've been at war with Iran since 1979 and too many people just don't want to admit it.

I'm against regime change. I'm not against permanently disabling an Islamist regimes nuke weapons program.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (PGK1w)

196 My suggestion for the Fordrow mission name is “Operation: Up the Poop Shute!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (EVFZ5)

197 Rasmussen had Trump up to 56% in the favorable range this morning. Tomorrow Trump will be at 60%.....

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:16 PM (gAN4h)

198 The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.

Posted by: Mike Hunt

That guy is a terrible shot.

Posted by: Michael Jordan at June 21, 2025 11:16 PM (53oPJ)

199 186 It's Time "Its Go Time Donald" Went
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (Splbu)

I dunno, it’s kind of fun to watch cowards weep.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (EVFZ5)

200 87 Anybody know the operation code name for the Fordow bombing?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)

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Operation Ballz Deep

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (pI9a0)

201 to Anna Puma, from 2 threads back...

No, we do not have any SR-71's or other Blackbirds any longer.

I was at Skunk Works 20 years, and was in a project office, working on Dark Star, when Ben Rich took another call from the Senate. It must have been about 1990...

He came out of the bosses office, telling us, 'We've told them so many times, when you stop the funding, the entire logistics chain stops, the suppliers have all stopped. They had wanted to for years, the SR-71 equipment was no longer their modern stuff. We cannot bring it back."

I have recently heard one spaceplane outfit has scoured the world for every gallon of JP-7 they could scrounge up for their project. Didn't find much.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (YkdQj)

202
It's up to the Iranian people to take back their country now. If they don't, shame on them.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (3ek7K)

203 John Kerry ran on fighting "nuclear proliferation" in 2004 so I assume he is first in line to support Operation Gap Band

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (gKWVE)

204 Actual fireworks being set off in celebration nearby (N of Houston)

*hoisting bourbon *

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (tubbA)

205 *new pitchers at the bar*

"LIBERAL TEARS"

Drink up!!!!!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (rdVOm)

206 (from the previous post)
speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.

"Precision"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)

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So? I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.

Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (36PRH)

207 >>> Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.

Narcissists gotta Narc. They are conveniently forgetting the Biden coup, the assassination attempts on Trump hear round the world, the footage of Kamala approving trans surgeries for inmates using taxpayer money, Elon, Joe Rogan, the financial waste on the Call Her Daddy temporary set, the skibidi Ohio no rizz of Boomer Kamala for the youth, gas prices, egg prices, all prices...

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (gWBY1)

208 Off, sock.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (uyIjy)

209 What happened to Russia? We were often told that Russia would come to Iran's defense in a situation like this. And why didn't they react to the destruction of one-third of their strategic bomber force? Are they asleep, or feeble?

Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (t9lPv)

210 Ha. Fox is reporting the bunker busters were dropped through air shafts.

They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw


Penthouse equipment room for the elevator shafts...
Doh !!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:19 PM (/lPRQ)

211 Don't anyone worry. I'm here to save the ONT.

Posted by: Robbie Rist at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (G5+As)

212 203 John Kerry ran on fighting "nuclear proliferation" in 2004 so I assume he is first in line to support Operation Gap Band
Posted by: gKWVE
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I suspect we will be seeing a lot of the Gap Band in meme world over the next few days.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (41CYW)

213 youtu.be/17lkdqoLt44

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE)

214
FO Daisy

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (3ek7K)

215 iran's most effective response to this will be through...Federal judges.
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Saw a tweet that the Iranian Atomic Authority is threatening legal action in retaliation for the strikes.

Guess they are hoping to file in Judge Boasberg's court.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (ctrM5)

216 I guess the Dems forgot about bombing Serbia before any resolution was voted on.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (VofaG)

217 @209 There is no mutual defense pact between Iran and Russia.

Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 11:21 PM (36PRH)

218
We named our new dog Daisy. Since the troll Daisy has shown up I"m considering changing my dog's name.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:21 PM (3ek7K)

219 >>Let's at least wait a few days to see what the polls look like and not just assume what millions of people we've never met are feeling right now.

People who spend all their time looking at polls are still waiting for President Kamala to be inagurated.

Do you know what most people like? Winning. Not being threatened by insane religous fanatics. Getting payback against terrorists who have been bombing, shooting, stabbing and killing Americans for over 40 years. And now they won't get a nuke. Anyone trying to pretend that isn't an enormous thing is retarded.

Young people are largely stupid because they are young. But they tend to get older and learn that the world doesn't operate like a video game and some times hard things have to be done so they can still play those video games.

Trump pulled off this attack off without anyone having any clue it was about to happen. What do you suppose the odds are that he also knows that Iran has sleeper cells in the US and there will likely be counter attacks? He did it anyway because it had to happen. Who would you rather be right now, Donald Trump or an Iranian mullah?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)

220 I commented a few days ago that there must be an exhaust port on this thing somewhere.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (je3ji)

221 I know a dude named Bunker Buster.

Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (R6Hhu)

222 /sock off

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (36PRH)

223 209 What happened to Russia? We were often told that Russia would come to Iran's defense in a situation like this. And why didn't they react to the destruction of one-third of their strategic bomber force? Are they asleep, or feeble?
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp!



Russia said nah. They're not doing that. Iran fucked up. They trusted them.

youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (PGK1w)

224 https://www.jfeed.com/middleeast/

us-strike-fordow-iran-nuclear-site

The shock wave front is visible for a brief moment. And there are a few interesting sights and sounds as ordinance cooks off.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (jAG+j)

225 Barky sent them money, Trump just blew it up

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (+qU29)

226 162 This might jeopardize Trump winning a peace prize for the Pakistan/India peace negotiations (he was nominated by Pakistan), but like they'd ever give him an award anyway.

Yeah well when Trump wins the award it will negate the award Oblowme got for blowing his lover in the back of a car in Chicago...

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (gAN4h)

227 All the "boys" involved are fine. Trump didn't send in troops, he took out some targets. He's done it before, without boots on the ground.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (Ezs10)

Hopefully it stays that way.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (/CkK4)

228 It's not that Otters are dangerous, its that those Boys were not Men...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (mP0Kj)

229 I'm watching Kill Bill.

The Okinawa chapter is just one amazing scene after another.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (lhenN)

230 didn't know Daisies smelled like ozone

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (gKWVE)

231 Bunker Buster count is at 12.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (je3ji)

232 Do you know what most people like? Winning"

This. X 10000

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (tubbA)

233 During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (BltCC)

You realize he was acting under the Authorization to Use Military Force that Bush got from Congress, right? Even though it was a p***y move to not simply declare war on the terrorists, it was in effect a declaration of war by Congress.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)

234 Russia said nah. They're not doing that. Iran fucked up. They trusted them.

youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (PGK1w)

Russia said... 'sorry... we're busy'...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (mP0Kj)

235 While I realize that there could be retaliations from the hajjis in the near future just know this:

America and Israel just fucked shit up like nobody has done in decades.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (0aYVJ)

236 I won the raffle for 12 bunker buster bombs to be delivered!

Posted by: Ayatolla Khomeni at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (rvwwT)

237
I'm a bit dubious of this "all six through the air shafts" thing. It will be a while before any reliable info on the actual methods and targets were, I think. A lot of this may be actual disinformation.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (w6EFb)

238 You realize he was acting under the Authorization to Use Military Force that Bush got from Congress, right? Even though it was a p***y move to not simply declare war on the terrorists, it was in effect a declaration of war by Congress.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)

An open ended never ending, Use of Force Authorization...

Even used against those not even covered BY that Act.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (mP0Kj)

239 They’re pissed and their outlet is going to be voting Democrat next time. And in 2028.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)

Democrats who are so against getting us involved in wars?

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (E0p3T)

240 Well... back to my Sharpe's Rifle Athon.... LOL

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (mP0Kj)

241 219 Who would you rather be right now, Donald Trump or an Iranian mullah?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)

Decisions, decisions...

So, one bed is being warmed by Melania, the other by a goat in a burka.

Tough call.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (uyIjy)

242 This bigger picture on tonight's....fireworks....was pretty much initiated two days ago. Iran approached Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Oman directly. They stated that if those countries put pressure on the US to create a ceasefire between Israel and Iran, then Iran would voluntarily be more flexible in their nuclear program.

Well, tonight, Trump took that strategy off the table by referencing "What nuclear program?"

They thought they had two weeks to work out the details. They didn't.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (dIske)

243 >>You realize he was acting under the Authorization to Use Military Force that Bush got from Congress, right? Even though it was a p***y move to not simply declare war on the terrorists, it was in effect a declaration of war by Congress.

He droned an American citizen without that due process we hear so much about from the left these days.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (viF8m)

244 237 If there were airshafts, it seems like it would have been way easier and cheaper to use nerve gas.

Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (t9lPv)

245 You realize he was acting under the Authorization to Use Military Force that Bush got from Congress, right? Even though it was a p***y move to not simply declare war on the terrorists, it was in effect a declaration of war by Congress.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)

IIRC The President has 60 days from emergency use of military action to go before Congress for a war resolution.

Is that correct?

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:27 PM (VofaG)

246 "It's Go Time!" -- Donald

"It's Go Time Donald" hardest hit.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 11:27 PM (DgGvY)

247 Polynikes,

I think Massie is probably a goner in the primary like Justin Amash was in Michigan during Trump's first term. People make allowances for some deviations but adopting Dem talking points against Trump's entire presidency is likely to be his undoing.

He might already be thinking of doing a Michael Forbes before his term ends.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (ctrM5)

248 He droned an American citizen without that due process we hear so much about from the left these days.

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zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz

Posted by: Judge Boasberg at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (dDmld)

249 Moron Air Base.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
And that is exactly the air bridge I predicted when they mentioned all those tankers flying eastward early last week. Been there, done that one, on both ends.

(That sounds kinky, doesn't it?)

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (PkFyV)

250 I am glad, "It's go time, Donald" that you the mind reading ability to predict exactly how young people will think from now through 2028l.

P.S "I'm not sure what "It's go time Donald is supposed to mean" but I think Trump just "went".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (2GCMq)

251 IIRC The President has 60 days from emergency use of military action to go before Congress for a war resolution.

Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes
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48 hours notice to Congress (except in cases of emergency - then can acti immediately), 60 days for emergency use, 30 days for withdrawal. I think? Not 100%

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)

252 Now we know why a lot of KC-135s and KC-46s were sent to bases in Europe and points east a week ago.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (aBgBM)

253 244 237 If there were airshafts, it seems like it would have been way easier and cheaper to use nerve gas.
Posted by: We Must Not

----
I guess you didn't know all the personnel had been evacuated in advance. The goal was to destroy the capabilities of the facilities.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (36PRH)

254 Trump has made it clear that sending troops anywhere is off the table.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (i0F8b)

255

Governor Tim Walz
@GovTimWalz
·
18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.

——

Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (pZEOD)

256 *clocks out*

Y'all know where everything is...

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (rdVOm)

257 Trump only needs two more impeachments to get a free six-inch sandwich from Subway.

*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero

HA!

Posted by: Miklos is Amused at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (UYy+W)

258
The main threat in Minnesota is the asshole Walz

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (3ek7K)

259 48 hours notice to Congress (except in cases of emergency - then can acti immediately), 60 days for emergency use, 30 days for withdrawal. I think? Not 100%
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)

He did notify Johnson and Thune. I don’t know if that complies.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (VofaG)

260 Polynikes,
The 60 days is from the War Powers Act which is of dubious constitutionality. Every president including Ford who vetoed it has held that to be so. Congress has the power of the purse or even impeachment but not direct power to order a president to stop a military action.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (ctrM5)

261 Trump only needs two more impeachments to get a free six-inch sandwich from Subway.

*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero

HA!
Posted by: Miklos is Amused at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (UYy+W)

He should wait for a couple more, and get one from a better sub chain or shop.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (S/Y4j)

262
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.

She took down planet Earth itself.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (63Dwl)

263 US used six B-2 bombers to drop 12 "bunker busters" on Fordow, plus two more on Natanz, official says.

Well shit, it's a long way to haul those suckers back to Arkansas!!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (PQOq3)

264 as the old Beach Boys song went:
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
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Akshually, the Beach Boys version was a cover. The original was by The Regents.
Sorta like Pat Boone and _Tutti Frutti_.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2025 11:33 PM (4ETSN)

265
I'm really hoping to get some detailed info on just what, where, and how was involved with that Fordow hit.

It's going to be a while.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)

266 256 *clocks out*

Y'all know where everything is...
Posted by: JQ
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*Checks schedule...damnit, I thought JQ was pulling a double shift tonight*

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (41CYW)

267 >US used six B-2 bombers to drop 12 "bunker busters" on Fordow, plus two more on Natanz, official says.


That's some serious boom-boom.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (i0F8b)

268 @261 Firehouse or Jersey Mike's?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)

269 I have lost count of the number of decisions Trump has made that are going to be the End of Trump.

(Sorry, that comment was from early 2017)

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (E0p3T)

270 Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (ctrM5)

Roger that.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (VofaG)

271 250 I am glad, "It's go time, Donald" that you the mind reading ability to predict exactly how young people will think from now through 2028l.

P.S "I'm not sure what "It's go time Donald is supposed to mean" but I think Trump just "went".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (2GCMq)

Part of Trump’s appeal was being opposed to endless war. He just burned that tonight. It’s reasonable to think it will have an effect on voters who backed him for this reason. Don’t you think?

I wanted him to “go” do things like border security. Which he’s done. Not start a needless war.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (/CkK4)

272 dang, I forgot how many bangers the G.B. put out
youtu.be/aobIboK_z34

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (gKWVE)

273 Hey, Doggo-- I'll clock back in if ya want. Just seemed to be a lull in orders.

Call it just a break, then. LOL!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)

274 268 @261 Firehouse or Jersey Mike's?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)

That, or a Cousin's Subs in my AO.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (S/Y4j)

275 261 Firehouse or Jersey Mike's?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)

I prefer Firehouse

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (VofaG)

276 Governor Tim Walz
@GovTimWalz
18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.

Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper


Also, Ilhan Omar has been placed on suicide-bomber watch.

I mean "suicide watch."

Posted by: Governor Knucklehead at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (DgGvY)

277 *clocks back in*

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (rdVOm)

278 Po pathetic little ipad barely made through the shrapnel and commercials to get here. whew

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (DNJiU)

279 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (63Dwl)

If a single question is all it took to take out an entire party, maybe it's time for some quiet introspection?

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (E0p3T)

280 He did notify Johnson and Thune. I don’t know if that complies.
Posted by: polynikes
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Posted this in an earlier thread. The last time an American President received congressional authorization for military action AUMF), was in October of 2002. 1991 was the next most recent AUMF. There have been a lot military actions before, after, and in between those dates.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (41CYW)

281 Absolutely cannot believe everyone is lining up behind THE SAME people who sold us the Iraq war and have vilified the America First movement for at least a decade.

It’s mind blowing.
Posted by: DaisyB at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (AbL8c)


I know for a troll it's hard to understand this but Iran's been at war with us since 1979. Killed many many Americans through the years by using their proxies Hisb'Allah, Hamas, and other muzzie terrorist orgs. This action has been LONG overdue.

Do you think Iran's war chant for decades, 'Death to America!', is just rhetoric?

Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)

282 I'm sure the mullahs are giving a lot of thought to fucking Minnesota right now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (dDmld)

283 Miss Lindsey to his rough trade " bunker bust me stud muffin"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (IG2sK)

284 Who would you rather be right now, Donald Trump or an Iranian mullah?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)

Who I don't want to be right now is anyone in the chain of command who might get promoted! I don't want the job!

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (PkFyV)

285 IIRC The President has 60 days from emergency use of military action to go before Congress for a war resolution.

Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes

The War Powers Act is a Schrodinger's Law.

Passed by Congress, and over Nixon's veto.

No President has acknowledged its Constitutional legitimacy, but have always danced around it while officially stating that it does not bind the President. Never tested in court if it unconstitutionally limits the powers of the Commander in Chief.

Hussein Obama did some particularly fancy dances.

Posted by: Miklos so recalls at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (UYy+W)

286 >>> @GovTimWalz
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.

——

Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (pZEOD)

Yes. Or he got a taste of the POTUS life as Kamala's running mate and can't turn back.

I don't care if it's fake news that in the shooter manifesto they won't release, Vance Boelter says he was told to kill Amy Klobuchar so Waltz could take her senate seat after his time as Guv is done. It's one of the few things that makes sense as to why he keeps trying to get his name in the news.

Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (gWBY1)

287 Which Star Wars? They used the "bomb on the target" plot device in three movies. Three lame redundant pointless movies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (RIvkX)

288 >>Young people are largely stupid because they are young.


They are also the Freshest off being brainwashed for 20 some odd years in our Education system.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (MmNOR)

289 He did notify Johnson and Thune. I don’t know if that complies.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:31

CBC said he informed Schumer.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (jvJvP)

290 Arguing with a troll is like wrestling with a pig.

You both get covered in pig-shit, but the pig likes it.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (i0F8b)

291 I'm sure the mullahs are giving a lot of thought to fucking Minnesota right now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (dDmld)

To be fair it's only about 500 miles away from the Islamic Nation of Dearbornistan.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:39 PM (E0p3T)

292
So now it's up to 12 GBU-57s? Hannidiot said Trump told him 6, but that could be 6 B-2s, 2 bombs per unit, he meant.

It's also possible something else was used along with the GBU-57s that we don't know about.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:39 PM (w6EFb)

293
You are so right davidt. I don't get the point of arguing with them. The trolls want a response, ignore them.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:39 PM (3ek7K)

294 Waiting for my libtard sis to start jamming me about today's action on eye-ran.

Will simply tell her: It's been a long time a-comin' and you were still learning how to play tetherball when this BS started, so don't give me any lip little girl...

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (rdVOm)

295 *clocks back in*
Posted by: JQ

She clocks right in
She clocks right out
She clocks right in
And shakes it all about

Posted by: Miklos sings along at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (UYy+W)

296 Just sayin. I love this. I hope I can slash some Muzzies!!!!
Politics
Exclusive
Trump administration boosts monitoring of possible Iran-backed cells in U.S., as Trump weighs strikes, sources say

https://tinyurl.com/yzmaj5z9

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (gAN4h)

297 287 Which Star Wars? They used the "bomb on the target" plot device in three movies. Three lame redundant pointless movies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (RIvkX)

I hope you are well.

And I did get Disney+ for 2.99 Can a mon5h.

I LOVE falling to sleep to woke 'Star Wars'.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (jvJvP)

298 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (/CkK4)

I am unable to predict exactly what an entire group of young people will think between now and 2028. If you can do that I suggest it you find someway to monetize it.

Good night

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (2GCMq)

299 281


Do you think Iran's war chant for decades, 'Death to America!', is just rhetoric?
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)

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Of course they're not serious! It's the Iranian version of "yadda yadda yadda." Like, "so I went to the market and saw this person I hate, *death to America*, then we parted ways."

Posted by: MSNBC at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (36PRH)

300 'endless war'

Again, it must be re-iterated that we've been at war with Iran since 1979. That has been often ignored and unacknowledged. Inconvenient I guess. I can only figure that Iran's nuclear weapons program, that nobody has denied exists, is just fine with a certain subset of people.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:41 PM (PGK1w)

301 The last time an American President received congressional authorization for military action AUMF), was in October of 2002. 1991 was the next most recent AUMF. There have been a lot military actions before, after, and in between those dates.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (41CYW)

It's why Korea was a "police action" - so Congress could avoid the hard decision of declaring war or not.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:41 PM (PkFyV)

302 Two words for anyone who bitches about Trump eliminating Iran's nukes...

"No Nukes!"

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (i0F8b)

303
Eric Schmitt
@Eric_Schmitt
·
2h
President Trump is a foreign policy realist not an ideologue. He has taken limited military action to achieve a crucial objective that is in the core national interest of the United States: preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

He doesn’t want another Forever War. He wants peace. What happens now is up to Iran

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (gAN4h)

304 Jackson without the drama.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (DNJiU)

305 >>Part of Trump’s appeal was being opposed to endless war. He just burned that tonight.

You mean he didn't burn that during his first term when he sent cruise missles into Syria?

You can keep up this idiotic line of reasoning that ignores the fact Iran has been at war with us for 46 years including maiming and killing hundreds of US soldiers in Iraq and countless other bombings and attacks but you are factually wrong.

Now you can explain how you were going to stop the world's leading state sponsor of terror from getting nukes when 46 years of asking has not deterred them. You don't get to pretend that isn't the entire reason for all of this or you wouldn't have been hacking Trump if they got a nuke while he did nothing.

So what was your plan?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (viF8m)

306 The "endless war" argument lacks any basis for the simple fact this fascist regime has conducted war against the United States practically from its inception.

So go put your head back in the sand and let the adults take care of things now.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:43 PM (RIvkX)

307 264 as the old Beach Boys song went:
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
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My Mom's name was Barbara Ann, and she hated that song with the fire of a thousand exploding suns. It has always made me smile to know that my kind, sweet little-old-church-lady Mom would have gleefully fed each Beach Boy into a woodchipper, feet first.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 21, 2025 11:44 PM (QdGJh)

308 Of course they're not serious! It's the Iranian version of "yadda yadda yadda." Like, "so I went to the market and saw this person I hate, *death to America*, then we parted ways."
Posted by: MSNBC at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (36PRH)


I'm thinking I saw a comedy sketch where everybody instead of saying 'hello' or 'good-bye' said 'Death to America!'.

It may be comical but the mullahs are deadly serious.

Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (gKDq2)

309 Trump just ended the "endless" war with Iran. Theocratic fascist Iran ist kaput. There's no second front. Leadership fled two days ago.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (jAG+j)

310
Anyone here familiar with public seismic data? I saw something about someone claiming there wasn't a big enough event as expected around Fordow, but I don't know anything about that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (w6EFb)

311 >>She clocks right in
She clocks right out
She clocks right in
And shakes it all about
Posted by: Miklos sings along
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*pulls sleeves down to expose shoulders and tighten shirt at the chest*

*does a SHIMMY!!!!*

(hey, it's a long time until payday...I need the $)

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (rdVOm)

312 Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (41CYW)

I agree. I believe a President has the power to use military action when he deems necessary for the security of the country. Congress can disagree by not funding it. I do think though that there should be an interim procedure to prevent the two branches being at odds.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (VofaG)

313 I LOVE falling to sleep to woke 'Star Wars'.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (jvJvP)
=====

Whatever works friend. But I think maybe a white noise machine might be more entertaining. i mean sleep-inducing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (RIvkX)

314 I can't believe I missed the Signal chat leading up to this strike.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (uyIjy)

315 I wonder what Trump discussed on recent calls with Putin, other that Ukraine, and with Xi, other than tariffs.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (ULPxl)

316 Haha, yeah, the phrase 'death to america' was like 'heil hilter' to the not sees.

Practically a handshake, or a way to answer the phone.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (rdVOm)

317 314 I can't believe I missed the Signal chat leading up to this strike.
Posted by: tankdemon
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Heh.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:48 PM (41CYW)

318 309 Trump just ended the "endless" war with Iran.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (jAG+j)


Exactly this. Trump has given no indication that he wants any more military involvement beyond taking care of the nuclear Iran issue.

Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2025 11:48 PM (rF2iL)

319 This is a partial list...Barry vs the Constitution:

(Obama) Entered Treaty Agreement with Iran without Advice & Consent of the Senate. No agreement (including one with the UN) is valid without 2/3 Senate approval. Article II Section 2

Congress did not approve Obama's war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4; War Powers Act Article II Section 3

(Obama) Waived Federal provision that prevents USA from arming terrorist groups Article I. Section 1; Impeachable under Article III, Section 3

Exposed identity and methods of operation of a Navy SEALs team - Illegal for a President to reveal classified military secrets. Article II Section 3

Drone strikes on American Citizens 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated

Posted by: ju at June 21, 2025 11:48 PM (vgX6l)

320 Governor Tim Walz
@GovTimWalz
·
18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.

——

Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?


Beware of Iranian's bearing gifts of Horse Essence.

Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:49 PM (R6Hhu)

321 "Part of Trump’s appeal was being opposed to endless war. He just burned that tonight. It’s reasonable to think it will have an effect on voters who backed him for this reason. Don’t you think?"

Donald Trump has been saying for 20 years now that iran can not be allowed to have nukes. I don't see how this changes anything in regards to his level of support in the long run except for going up.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 21, 2025 11:49 PM (89Sog)

322
I think something some people forget or don't think about is we the public have no clue what is going on in the background. We've been privy to the news about Iran the past few days, but what did Trump know?

I believe there was something bigger than Iran having nukes going on.

I salute President Trump and his staff for the decision they made.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (3ek7K)

323 I do think though that there should be an interim procedure to prevent the two branches being at odds.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (VofaG)


Unfortunately, you can't tell the Dems any National Security secrets in adbvance, like bombing plans, as they'd blab them somewhere, probably to Iran. The Dems are the 'Domestic Enemy' mentioned in the military oath.

Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (gKDq2)

324
Has anyone read any reports of the Israelis whacking any IRGC installations?

The IRGCs are fanatic, well-armed, and plentiful, and I think mostly non-Iranian. The Iranian people have little chance against them. Removing the IRGC will allow the Iranian people to change their regime.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (FlRtG)

325 I don't know why young people think the world began when they were born. They are so utterly ahistorical.

When I was young I understood the past was the key to understanding the present. Young people be like "so two months ago, bro..."

/rant over

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:51 PM (RIvkX)

326 I doubt Putin or Xi actually wanted Iran to get the bomb. They know full well how dangerously fanatical the Mullahs are. They may have been happy to sell a little assistance, at a high price, but counted on Israel and/or the US to prevent final success.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:51 PM (i0F8b)

327 JQ - This morning cob KT mentioned that yummy crunchy browned Iranian rice.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:52 PM (jAG+j)

328 Looks like everyone gave up on the prior threads. Awww.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (bss/y)

329 Pure speculation, but the air shifts for an installation of that type must be massive.

They not gonna be regenrating air like on a sub.

The whole damn is probably under negative pressure (exhaust) for the lab and processing areas, plus inlets for the make-up air. Otherwise you be contaminating the whole place.

Ever worked in a big commercial kitchen? As much air going out just as much coming in... Big hot / cold spots on the thermal imaging.

Would not be surprised if the actual total size of the vents measured in 10,000 sq ft +.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (/lPRQ)

330 No President has acknowledged its Constitutional legitimacy, but have always danced around it while officially stating that it does not bind the President. Never tested in court if it unconstitutionally limits the powers of the Commander in Chief.

Hussein Obama did some particularly fancy dances.
Posted by: Miklos so recalls at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (UYy+W)

Due to the proven fact that Iran was supplying IEDs to Afghanistan while we were there, the logical argument can be made that they are Allies of the Taliban, and thus covered by the Anti Bin Laden Authorized Use of Force passed by Congress... the one with no expiration date.

Believe me... I hate the idea... but it is a valid legal argument.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (mP0Kj)

331 Shorter Tim Walz : I've given orders for my insane hit men to kill my political enemies. Given Trump's actions it's the only way to be sure

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:54 PM (IG2sK)

332 I'm guessing now that Trump has exposed his warcock in public the laydeez gonna be calling for more...

Oh Donald bomb me too.....

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:54 PM (gAN4h)

333 306 The "endless war" argument lacks any basis for the simple fact this fascist regime has conducted war against the United States practically from its inception.

So go put your head back in the sand and let the adults take care of things now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025

This whole line of thinking reminds me of the dumb “War is not the answer” bumper stickers. That wholly depends on the question, and if the question is should we have a nuclear armed Iran, the answer is no. A loud and booming no, if you will.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (pZEOD)

334 >>I believe there was something bigger than Iran having nukes going on

Well there is the small thing about the mullahs targeting Trump as well as members of both his current and previous administration targeted for assassination. No big deal really.

I don't think some understand what having a rogue country like Iran having nukes means to the balance of power in the world.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (viF8m)

335
JackStraw,

I agree.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (3ek7K)

336 Pure speculation, but the air shifts for an installation of that type must be massive.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (/lPRQ)

That's what she said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (bss/y)

337 Gabe really sucked the wrong dick, didn't he?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (bss/y)

338 >>Has anyone read any reports of the Israelis whacking any IRGC installations?

The IRGCs are fanatic, well-armed, and plentiful, and I think mostly non-Iranian. The Iranian people have little chance against them. Removing the IRGC will allow the Iranian people to change their regime.


Yes. They are expressly targeting them and the Regime proper and have told the iranians to hold their powder while bombing is active.

Once Israel destroys a sufficient number of hard targets, this will be up to the Iranian Military and People.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (MmNOR)

339 I don't think some understand what having a rogue country like Iran having nukes means to the balance of power in the world.
Posted by: JackStraw

The Rooskies and Chicoms seem rather quiet.

Posted by: Miklos so notes at June 21, 2025 11:57 PM (UYy+W)

340 Ever worked in a big commercial kitchen? As much air going out just as much coming in... Big hot / cold spots on the thermal imaging.

Would not be surprised if the actual total size of the vents measured in 10,000 sq ft +.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Agree. Had a 2500SF kitchen at one my restaurants back in the day. The exhaust and make-up air was significant.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (41CYW)

341 Concern Trolling 2025.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (jAG+j)

342
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (pZEOD)
====

"War is not healthy for children, and other living things"

*gags*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (RIvkX)

343 Trump just ended the "endless" war with Iran.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (jAG+j)

Exactly this. Trump has given no indication that he wants any more military involvement beyond taking care of the nuclear Iran issue.
Posted by: Emmie


And if the Iranian People enact a 'regime change' then that is perfect icing on the cake. Cause you cannot force that.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (/lPRQ)

344 I just got the old bait and switch.

Pluto had listed the 2002 Count of Monte Cristo and showed me the 1975 Count of Monte Cristo.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (VofaG)

345 >>I believe there was something bigger than Iran having nukes going on

Iran was pretty isolated in the moment.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (MmNOR)

346
The Iranian people are on their own now. I pray they will rise up against the tyranny and make their country great again.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (3ek7K)

347 Vance doesn't appear to be ready for this.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (DNJiU)

348 337 Gabe really sucked the wrong dick, didn't he?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (bss/y)


Don't you hate when that happens?

Posted by: Monica! at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (gKWVE)

349 >>> 330
==
Due to the proven fact that Iran was supplying IEDs to Afghanistan while we were there, the logical argument can be made that they are Allies of the Taliban, and thus covered by the Anti Bin Laden Authorized Use of Force passed by Congress... the one with no expiration date.

Believe me... I hate the idea... but it is a valid legal argument.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (mP0Kj)

Maybe our congresscritters, and other government types, might consider applying expirations more frequently?

Don't we have something like 3 dozen plus "national emergencies" going back several decades?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (ULPxl)

350 Once Israel destroys a sufficient number of hard targets, this will be up to the Iranian Military and People.
Posted by: garrett

If the Basij street thug militia shows up on the target list, it means the Regime Change game is ON.

Posted by: Miklos used to know this stuff at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (UYy+W)

351 JQ - This morning cob KT mentioned that yummy crunchy browned Iranian rice.
Posted by: 13times
------

I saw that.

Haven't even had time to try a recipe yet.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)

352 >>The Rooskies and Chicoms seem rather quiet.

I bet some of those "other targets" Trump mentioned include Iran's oil and gas industry. That's gotta give Xi a major pucker.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (viF8m)

353 MYCGA.

Make
Your
Country
Great
Again

I'd like to buy another vowel, Pat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:01 AM (bss/y)

354 Talk about a show of power!!!!
3 carrier task groups
at least 8 B-2 Stealth bombers (6 decoys)
multiple submarines
There will be no prolonged war with Iran.
With IDF intel and US might it's just a matter of mopping up now.
I welcome asshole terror cells here in the US
The Trailer Park Boys can fuck these guy up.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:01 AM (gAN4h)

355 I've had Iranian-mother prepared food, it was delicious and plentiful, we ate it for days after she left. That crispy rice, and chicken and kebabs and bread and vegetables and desserts with pistachios.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (RIvkX)

356 Have I mentioned spider solitaire is evil lately?

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (+qU29)

357
Just saw a FOX headline. Major US cities are on high alert. Way to scare people.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (3ek7K)

358 Agree. Had a 2500SF kitchen at one my restaurants back in the day. The exhaust and make-up air was significant.
Posted by: scampydog

*Presents mildly expired Early Bird discount coupon*

We can still do this, right?

Posted by: Miklos, Night Owl at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (UYy+W)

359 356 Have I mentioned spider solitaire is evil lately?
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (+qU29)

Are you playing 4 suit?

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (uyIjy)

360 Good night all. I hope to dream of beautiful Persian women in bikinis

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (IG2sK)

361
Grok thinks Fordow would need pretty big "ventilation tunnels" being the proper term, rather than "air shaft". UF6 gas is highly toxic, and they'd need some significant air exchange capability in case of a leak. A shit ton of centrifuges also needs some serious HVAC itself.

Grok thinks, with 12 GBU-57s, this was a massive seal-off, entombment thing, and not a directly blow the thing up. Collapse the entrances and ventilation tunnels all around it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 12:04 AM (w6EFb)

362 I do think though that there should be an interim procedure to prevent the two branches being at odds.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (VofaG)

Unfortunately, you can't tell the Dems any National Security secrets in adbvance, like bombing plans, as they'd blab them somewhere, probably to Iran. The Dems are the 'Domestic Enemy' mentioned in the military oath.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (gKDq2)

Sure you can. You have to strip them down to their underwear, do a full cavity search, tell them, and, finally, lock them in a room with a bed, toilet, sink, and a glass. Once the op is over, release them.

They get their warning, but have no way to share it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 12:05 AM (S/Y4j)

363 Vance doesn't appear to be ready for this.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (DNJiU)

Rubio is going to get the Trump endorsement in 28...

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:05 AM (gAN4h)

364 346
The Iranian people are on their own now. I pray they will rise up against the tyranny and make their country great again.
Posted by: four seasons
--------------
Yeah, this one causes me to pause - nation building thing - who all are going to be nosing around/pulling levers. The regime has to go, but what does the vacuum create. The IRGC and whatever other "police powers" they have - to keep the masses beaten down, number 600K or so, plus reserves. Or so the interwebz tells me. Population of 90M or so.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:05 AM (41CYW)

365 What garnered the opinion Vance is not ready?

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:07 AM (VofaG)

366 I always play 4 suit, 507 moves and can't get around a block

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:07 AM (+qU29)

367 Grok just read 0.01% of Ace's comments.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 12:07 AM (/lPRQ)

368 356 Have I mentioned spider solitaire is evil lately?
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (+qU29)

I made it to level 151 so far on plain Solitaire expert level. I have enough Microsoft credits to buy a Happy Meal... ..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gAN4h)

369 I bet some of those "other targets" Trump mentioned include Iran's oil and gas industry. That's gotta give Xi a major pucker.
Posted by: JackStraw

Maybe.

Or Iran's oil infrastructure has been scrupulously left alone so that a new government can sell unsanctioned oil. No Chinese discount.

Bad for Chicoms, but money for a post-Mullah government. No disruption to global energy markets, not good for Putin....

Posted by: Miklos, unpredictful but thinkin' at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (UYy+W)

370 Good night all. I hope to dream of beautiful Persian women in bikinis
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (IG2sK)


You'll get a mullah wearing a tu-tu and you'll be damn happy about it.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gKDq2)

371 Weird. We were expecting another pallet of cash.
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46

Now that right there is what I call a threadwinner!

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at June 22, 2025 12:09 AM (55Qr6)

372
FreeSolitaire.com is a good site.

I'm addicted to Double Solitaire, spit, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:09 AM (3ek7K)

373 Good night all. I hope to dream of beautiful Persian women in bikinis
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (IG2sK)

You'll get a mullah wearing a tu-tu and you'll be damn happy about it.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gKDq2)

Somebody got a goat.

I got a rock.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 12:10 AM (S/Y4j)

374 Good night all. I hope to dream of beautiful Persian women in bikinis
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Bing !!! [images]

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 12:10 AM (/lPRQ)

375 Fesejan stew over crunchy rice topped with homemade cucumber yoghurt.

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:10 AM (jAG+j)

376 What garnered the opinion Vance is not ready?
Posted by: polynikes

Vivian Vance was an award winning actress and widely respected by her colleagues

Posted by: Miklos has never been a Honeymooner at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (UYy+W)

377 Entombment and a bit of shock and awe on the machinery.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (DNJiU)

378 I actually think this successful military mission will help military recruitment .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (VofaG)

379 N Korea, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq. The Axis of Evil is real. Unlike GWB and all the other cucks, Bibi and Donald are showing the way to deal with it.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (i0F8b)

380 369 I bet some of those "other targets" Trump mentioned include Iran's oil and gas industry. That's gotta give Xi a major pucker.
Posted by: JackStraw

Maybe.

Or Iran's oil infrastructure has been scrupulously left alone so that a new government can sell unsanctioned oil. No Chinese discount.

Bad for Chicoms, but money for a post-Mullah government. No disruption to global energy markets, not good for Putin....
Posted by: Miklos
--------------
This too, has me noodling. If a bunch of Morons were planning this, hitting what else would benefit the USA and/or create headaches for those diddling with our economy/security, etc.? What would the other targets be?

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (41CYW)

381 This is pretty cool, if real:

https://tinyurl.com/3ccmzb5s

This does not look like a mountain...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (bss/y)

382 Evening.

I should be in bed.

Skimming the Twats but @OSINTTechnical is saying CNN is reporting 12 bunker busters were dropped on Fordow, not six.

Two bunkers busters were dropped on Natanz along with the Tomahawks.

Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (W05dk)

383 JQ, a nightcap if you please.

Thank you, President Trump!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2025 12:13 AM (0nHVk)

384 You'll get a mullah wearing a tu-tu and you'll be damn happy about it.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gKDq2)


He just wants to live his life this way.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 12:13 AM (gKWVE)

385 He looked uncomfortable and a bit of side eye from Hegseth.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (DNJiU)

386 Odd that there hasn't been much reporting on what the major players in the Middle East, most of whom hate the current Iranian leadership, are thinking.

Arabs like the strong horse.

>>@guyelster
·
>>1h
No radioactive traces have been detected in the environment of Saudi Arabia or other Arab Gulf states following the US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, Saudi Arabia's nuclear regulator said

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (viF8m)

387

First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (63Dwl)

388 Hi, Debby!

One nightcap, comin' up!

*to President Trump, and to Israel*

*cheers*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (rdVOm)

389 Vivian Vance was an award winning actress and widely respected by her colleagues
Posted by: Miklos has never been a Honeymooner at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (UYy+W)

---------

And Fred Merz ended up Chancellor of Germany. Weird!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (dDmld)

390 Been watching H&I channel, 2 episodes of Combst now 12 O'clock High, they bailed out of a B-17 [over Germany and landed in California

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (+qU29)

391 196 My suggestion for the Fordrow mission name is “Operation: Up the Poop Shute!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (EVFZ5)

Ram it, ram it, ram it, ram it up the poop chute!

Posted by: Zombie Frank Zappa at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (8hxDK)

392 >>> What garnered the opinion Vance is not ready?

He had a good comeback to the Jose thing:

I would like to apologize to the senator from CA for calling him the wring name, but if you expect me to apologize for all the fantastic work the men and women at ICE and CPB have been doing the past few months I say, no-way-Jose.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (gWBY1)

393 This is pretty cool, if real:

https://tinyurl.com/3ccmzb5s

This does not look like a mountain...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (bss/y)

The mountain came to Mohammed. So I'm told.

Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (W05dk)

394 Nation building. On his podcast today VDH talked about restoring Iran royalty for a year to oversee the creation of a new constitution etc., etc.

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:17 AM (jAG+j)

395 *Presents mildly expired Early Bird discount coupon*

We can still do this, right?
Posted by: Miklos
----------------
*Checks with JQ* Would you prefer a high-top or a booth?

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:17 AM (41CYW)

396 The regime has to go, but what does the vacuum create. The IRGC and whatever other "police powers" they have - to keep the masses beaten down, number 600K or so, plus reserves. Or so the interwebz tells me. Population of 90M or so.
Posted by: scampydog

I have NFTG when it comes to the turmoil about to erupt there. For 46 years they have been one of the main sources of the mayhem that has dominated the world. At this juncture , it's reasonable to assume a majority of the population doesn’t support the regime. I will wager that wasn't the case in the beginning. Let them sort it out themselves. My only regret is we didn't save a bunker buster to shove up the Ayatollah's ass on our way home. Leave them to clean up their own mess.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:18 AM (F31MH)

397 FilmLadd
@FilmLadd
·
1h
Have your nuclear facilities been unfairly wiped off the face of the planet when you were only weeks away from getting nukes? Are you sitting in a bunker terrified of getting a bullet between the eyes?

You may be entitled to compensation!
Quote

R A W S A L E R T S

@rawsalerts
·
2h
🚨#BREAKING: Iran has announced that it will pursue legal action against the United States attacks.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:18 AM (pZEOD)

398 What would the other targets be?
Posted by: scampydog

Give about 12,000 Navy Personnel (Marines get Crayons) #twoweeks Shore Leave in Qatar and $100 each at the Class 6

Posted by: Miklos has Ideas at June 22, 2025 12:19 AM (UYy+W)

399 This is pretty cool, if real:

https://tinyurl.com/3ccmzb5s

This does not look like a mountain...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (bss/y)

Maybe Natanz or one of the 'other' sites.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:19 AM (i0F8b)

400 The mountain came to Mohammed. So I'm told.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (W05dk)


Sure, Mohammed raped the Mountain's daughter, Hill. The Mountain most defintely came to Mohammed.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:19 AM (gKDq2)

401 221 I know a dude named Bunker Buster.
Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (R6Hhu)

I call him "Big Mike".

Posted by: Barry O at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (8hxDK)

402 As much as the horrid regime in Iran deserves this and more, wasn't Israel successfully handling this for us?

If we can give any covert support to a mullah overthrow, great, but I am wary of yet another Bush style intevention.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (ajDWy)

403 Loved the MoME!!
Enjoyed talking with everyone and my parole officer sounds hopeful.
Thanks to WeaselBell productions!

BTW, I'll take credit for the Dodge Destiny comment above.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (lIgBp)

404 Iran has used proxies to attack the US for decades

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (+qU29)

405 >>Maybe.

>>Or Iran's oil infrastructure has been scrupulously left alone so that a new government can sell unsanctioned oil. No Chinese discount.

>>Bad for Chicoms, but money for a post-Mullah government. No disruption to global energy markets, not good for Putin....

And either outcome is great for us.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (viF8m)

406 *Checks with JQ* Would you prefer a high-top or a booth?
Posted by: scampydog

A BOOTH

Insolent whippersnapper

JQ-Talk to his Manager!

Posted by: Miklos has several quasi-expired coupons and Greenbax Stamps at June 22, 2025 12:22 AM (UYy+W)

407 I have NFTG when it comes to the turmoil about to erupt there. For 46 years they have been one of the main sources of the mayhem that has dominated the world. At this juncture , it's reasonable to assume a majority of the population doesn’t support the regime. I will wager that wasn't the case in the beginning. Let them sort it out themselves. My only regret is we didn't save a bunker buster to shove up the Ayatollah's ass on our way home. Leave them to clean up their own mess.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude
------------
Pretty much sums up my thoughts too. I don't like any of the nation building meddling - from any side. And agree, I'm been mad at Iran since '79.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)

408 402 As much as the horrid regime in Iran deserves this and more, wasn't Israel successfully handling this for us?

If we can give any covert support to a mullah overthrow, great, but I am wary of yet another Bush style intevention.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12

We already had 2 poopers at this party. That is the limit. Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (pZEOD)

409 🚨#BREAKING: Iran has announced that it will pursue legal action against the United States attacks.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:18 AM (pZEOD)


That just reeks of desperation, calling in the Dewey, Cheatham & Howe boys.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (gKDq2)

410 *Checks with JQ* Would you prefer a high-top or a booth?
Posted by: scampydog
-------

Both available right now. Your choice, Miklos!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (rdVOm)

411
Sock Monkey,

You are right. It's on them now to finish the job.

We have no business nation building.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (3ek7K)

412 390 Been watching H&I channel, 2 episodes of Combst now 12 O'clock High, they bailed out of a B-17 [over Germany and landed in California

With Vic Morrow! and Pvt Kirby in tonight's episode 'Kirby get his ass chewed out'

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (gAN4h)

413 Pretty much sums up my thoughts too. I don't like any of the nation building meddling - from any side. And agree, I'm been mad at Iran since '79.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)




That said, was the late Colin Powell correct when he admonished the Bush Administration about Iraq, that "if you break it, you buy it..." ???

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:25 AM (ajDWy)

414 We don't know what the hell ya'll all on about.

Normal Saddy Nite here

Lotta bottles broken, some blood shed, but hell it is SADDYNITE

Posted by: Miklos at Bob's Country Bunker at June 22, 2025 12:25 AM (UYy+W)

415 BOOTH it is.

Miklos, I'm surprised! Here, have a Jell-O shot.

Doggo IS THE MANAGER, ya know...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:26 AM (rdVOm)

416 413: Colin Powell was wrong a lot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 12:26 AM (PGK1w)

417
A lovely 56 degrees here in SW Wyoming. Supposed to be 34 degrees in the morning. It's wonderful.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:27 AM (3ek7K)

418 387

First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (63Dwl)

-Donavan circa 1965

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:27 AM (gAN4h)

419 As much as the horrid regime in Iran deserves this and more, wasn't Israel successfully handling this for us?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (ajDWy)


Only the US has The Bunker Buster. Israel seemingly couldn't reach the depth that we can and Iran went deep with its nuclear ambitions.

This was an assist by the US, nothing more. In my opinion, natch.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (gKDq2)

420 We already had 2 poopers at this party. That is the limit. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (pZEOD)




Sorry, I can't just mindlessly cheerlead. Promises of "cakewalks" and "flowers and kisses from the masses" are remembered. Of course the mullah's Iran had it coming, but isn't that what we in effect pay Israel to do for us? That military and other foreign aid means *something* after all.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (ajDWy)

421 Hello ONTers. Just getting home. I hear we're in another war now!

Did I miss anything else in the last 8 hours? Ha.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (uCjyK)

422 /breakfast time. opens box of kaboom cereal.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (xC2Ng)

423 Both available right now. Your choice, Miklos!
Posted by: JQ

Booth

If appropriate and necessary, they can just cover me with the table cloths, lock up, and wake me in the morning.

Posted by: This..actually..Happened and Miklos was THERE at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (UYy+W)

424 Nation building. On his podcast today VDH talked about restoring Iran royalty for a year to oversee the creation of a new constitution etc., etc.
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:17 AM (jAG+j)

VDH is one of those name check "conservative commentators."

Until I hear him on Rogan, he doesn't have much resonance outside the Fox News bubble.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (r2ymA)

425 Nation-Building is about the graft inherent to the process, not about the actual building of a nation. What separates Trump from the crooks is his apparent disdain for the graft, thus the crooks' hatred for him.

If/when there is regime-change in Iran there will be a mad rush of crooks to get a piece of the action, probably led by the UN.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (i0F8b)

426 Eddie Fisher.

Husband of Debbie Reynolds, and later Elizabeth Taylor. Sold millions of records, had a TV show.

Lawn, get off of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (XeU6L)

427 That said, was the late Colin Powell correct when he admonished the Bush Administration about Iraq, that "if you break it, you buy it..." ???
Posted by: Curmudgeon
--------------
Fair question. I would need more space than the grey boxes permit to chat about Colin Powell - I know, I'm not directly answering your question.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (41CYW)

428
davidt, Exactly right.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (3ek7K)

429 Only the US has The Bunker Buster. Israel seemingly couldn't reach the depth that we can and Iran went deep with its nuclear ambitions.

This was an assist by the US, nothing more. In my opinion, natch.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (gKDq2)




I am honestly surprised that isn't item #1 on the Israeli shopping list. Heck, I am amazed that Israel didn't come up with it *first* and offer it to us.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:30 AM (ajDWy)

430 U58 moves into it but think I have it now

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:31 AM (+qU29)

431 Eddie Munster

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:32 AM (63Dwl)

432 breakfast time. opens box of kaboom cereal.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs

From the UNWRA?

They paid for a lot of kaboom-y stuff

Posted by: Late Nite Miklos at June 22, 2025 12:32 AM (UYy+W)

433 Oh oh. Incoming. Ready to shelter.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:33 AM (xC2Ng)

434 *sits at booth with Miklos*

Dude. Split this pitcher of Margaritas with me?

*pouts*

Did you see how nobody even noticed when I shimmied? That's just.. sad.

*pours from pitcher, into glasses*

*sigh*

Gettin' too old, I reckon.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)

435 Eddie Munster
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

Paul Ryan

Posted by: Creepy Widow's peak Competitors at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (UYy+W)

436
Shit

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (3ek7K)

437 422 /breakfast time. opens box of kaboom cereal.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
------------
How's the mood over there this morning?

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (41CYW)

438 I am honestly surprised that isn't item #1 on the Israeli shopping list. Heck, I am amazed that Israel didn't come up with it *first* and offer it to us.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:30 AM (ajDWy)

The US has probably declined the sale of them to anyone. Plus, you need a delivery system/plane such as the B-2. The US ain't sell that either.

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (i0F8b)

439 Biden's Dog - What seems to be the prevalent popular opinion there?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (XeU6L)

440 434 igh*

Gettin' too old, I reckon.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025

I saw it! I loved it.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:35 AM (pZEOD)

441 *pours from pitcher, into glasses*

*sigh*

Gettin' too old, I reckon.
Posted by: JQ

*Did not realize that this is the Third Pitcher*

Posted by: Miklos also forgot his vintage X-Ray Glasses at June 22, 2025 12:35 AM (UYy+W)

442 How's the mood over there this morning?

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (41CYW)
-

Happy. Expected. Ain't over till it's over. Need to monitor status of incoming. l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (xC2Ng)

443 Yay!

*hands glass of margarita to Piper*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (rdVOm)

444 Ya know the difference between straight bourbon and bourbon and water?
Bourbon and water lasts longer.
I catch on eventually... Duh

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (gAN4h)

445 It is way past the time I normally turn into a pumpkin. Good night, friends!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (pZEOD)

446 Imma be up past my bedtime tonight.

Little Feat!
Feets Don’t Fail Me Now!

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (E0dBg)

447 JQ, These wings are delish, send a drink over to the guy in the booth. Set up the bar while you are at it. There is a nice tip in there for you.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (0nHVk)

448 852 moves, took 1hour 20 minutes and 9 seconds but I beat it

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:37 AM (+qU29)

449
Yay Skip!

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:37 AM (3ek7K)

450 Thanks for hanging out late tonight, Piper! Someone walk her to her car please.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:37 AM (41CYW)

451 Little Feat!
Feets Don’t Fail Me Now!
Posted by: nurse ratched

The One Nurse in the world I would encourage to do a TikTok dance

Posted by: Miklos spins up some Sam Cooke at June 22, 2025 12:38 AM (UYy+W)

452 Thanks, Debby. Your wish is my command.

Miklos, what would you like?

All at the bar, make room for another!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (rdVOm)

453 422 /breakfast time. opens box of kaboom cereal.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (xC2Ng)

Yeah how apropos....
Stay safe

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (gAN4h)

454 Iranian missile attack on Israel right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (viF8m)

455 I can’t wait for purple fingers in Iran’s election next year. Gonna be lit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (/CkK4)

456 Only the US has The Bunker Buster. Israel seemingly couldn't reach the depth that we can and Iran went deep with its nuclear ambitions.

Thirty years of grifting off "Iran is days from getting The Bomb!" down the drain...

Posted by: Endless Wars at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (6keFU)

457 Do wonder what the Mullahs will do

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (+qU29)

458 Fair question. I would need more space than the grey boxes permit to chat about Colin Powell - I know, I'm not directly answering your question.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (41CYW)

Powell, was a savvy political operator, and became a corruptocrat early in his military career. It's why he rose to the level he did. It certainly wasn't in any way meriotcratic, lol.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (r2ymA)

459
Where are the missiles coming from in Iran? Can't those sites be taken out?

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:41 AM (3ek7K)

460 Hahahah!!

Iran: US, I will see you in court!!

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2025 12:41 AM (9ShvG)

461 Howdy, Nurse!

*puts dollar in the jukebox*

youtu.be/yaHEfJApEVM

Name your drink. It's on the house.

Hope you enjoyed the concert!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

462 sheltered. Distant explosions. Central Jerusalem siren just went now.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (wToEB)

463 Miklos, what would you like?

All at the bar, make room for another!
Posted by: JQ

One Unicum

One Xtabentun

And a straw

Posted by: Miklos, the world's only Hungarian Mayan at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (UYy+W)

464 Should hit bed by 2am, work tomorrow evening through the night

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (+qU29)

465 Kaboom indeed!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:43 AM (wToEB)

466
Iran: US, I will see you in court!!

Morgan and Morgan and Morgan and Morgan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:43 AM (63Dwl)

467 Iran's proxies will want some of this you know

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:43 AM (+qU29)

468 Plus, you need a delivery system/plane such as the B-2. The US ain't sell that either.
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (i0F8b)


I keep forgetting that point, and it is an excellent one.

When we use our arsenal in a responsible war-mongering manner, we can be very successful. But when we try to do a military job on the cheap, it invariably fails.

This seemed well-planned and well-coordinated. This tells the world, if they didn't know it already, President Trump is not here to play.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:44 AM (gKDq2)

469 Neighbors pouring in with smiles while we here one explosion after another somewhere outside. Lots of booms.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:44 AM (wToEB)

470 454 Iranian missile attack on Israel right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (viF8m)

Shocker.

Hopefully our troops in Syria, Iraq, etc. etc. aren't targeted.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:45 AM (uCjyK)

471 I'm Jawn Morgan, youse hurt?
We have the largest law firm in the country

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:45 AM (+qU29)

472 Trump could have been the 1st post ww2 president to not start a war.

Oh well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (/CkK4)

473 President Trump is not here to play.
Posted by: RickZ

Oh, Trump is ready to play.

But the odds are in favor of the House. Stacked, even.

The White one, where he lives.

Posted by: Miklos bets on 47 red at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (UYy+W)

474 *checks tip jar*

*calls Uber for Piper*

Sorry, can't let you drive tonight. Will come get you tomorrow & bring you back to pick up your car.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (rdVOm)

475 Where are the missiles coming from in Iran? Can't those sites be taken out?
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:41 AM (3ek7K)


I would bet Iran is using mobile launching vehicles. Iran has to keep them moving around or they are a sitting target.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (gKDq2)

476 Trump could have been the 1st post ww2 president to not start a war.

Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

So could you

Sad!

Posted by: Miklos never wanted to be President much at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (UYy+W)

477 >>Hopefully our troops in Syria, Iraq, etc. etc. aren't targeted.

Why wouldn't they be? They've been targeted and attacked by Iran for decades.

I still don't understand how some of you don't understand this. It was in the news and everything.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (viF8m)

478 My "parents" (as in me, being to young to gamble, long story) won a like 7" black and white battery powered TV in 1977. About 12" x 12" x18" and weighed a ton but I made sure that thing was charged all the time. Drug it where I wanted to watch TV in my wagon. Battery lasted about 3 hours.
Also had the claim to fame of "I have my own TV". Younger brother still resents me for this. But that fuker got the first personal phone line and a new Ford Ranger at 16.

Kids these days have no idea the struggle.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (LgDgc)

479
RickZ,

Thanks for the info. I did not know the assholes move them around.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (3ek7K)

480 474 *checks tip jar*

*calls Uber for Piper*

Sorry, can't let you drive tonight. Will come get you tomorrow & bring you back to pick up your car.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025

Perfect. Will text when I am up! 😂

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (QzINz)

481 Do wonder what the Mullahs will do
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (+qU29)


From the rumors of flights leaving Iran, moving their families somewhere safe.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (gKDq2)

482 For years since 9-11 we have heard about the sleeper cells, put into the US to cause death and mayhem. Nothing has ever happened and there have been plenty of opportunities for them to strike. I don't believe there are any sleeper cells. The ragheads here are not the brightest bulbs in the box. They can scream and shout and stir up the useful idiots but I think k it was all bluster and lies.

Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2025 12:49 AM (GOJbT)

483 Eight A.M. press conference is great. Just the right time for Sunday morning show chatter and not enough time for their minders to write script for them.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:49 AM (DNJiU)

484 I'm Jawn Morgan, youse hurt?
We have the largest law firm in the country
Posted by: Skip

I was the victim in a car accident with a lawyer from Morgan and Morgan

Posted by: Miklos does not expect Justice at June 22, 2025 12:50 AM (UYy+W)

485 Eddie Albert, singing the Green Acres theme song.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (J+OHH)

486 Posted by: Miklos bets on 47 red at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (UYy+W)

I wanna see that roulette table.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (gKDq2)

487 Democrats are against war, except apparently with Russia.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (E0p3T)

488 Trump just ended WWIII.

Oh well. (polishes Ukraine flag emoji)

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (jAG+j)

489 For some reason, this night's operation makes me think of the grand finale of Aliens. The famous "Punch it, Bishop!" Climactic Escape. Killer score.

https://youtu.be/cCeNXyHgtvM?
si=svUbPR6wHtcMfU6r

Posted by: Beverly at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (Epeb0)

490 Now Israel needs to get rid of that mad Aytollah. Fucking perv, torturer and super nutcase.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (9ShvG)

491 Wasn't Morgan & Morgan one of the big money dem donors for Kamala?

Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (GOJbT)

492 Biden's Dog, glad to see you here for the celebration. Good job greasing the skids for us.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (DNJiU)

493 455 I can’t wait for purple fingers in Iran’s election next year. Gonna be lit.

Purple fingers you say!!
-Rosa DeLauro

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:53 AM (gAN4h)

494 Trump could have been the 1st post ww2 president to not start a war.

Oh well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (/CkK4)

Aww, this poor little cuck has the big sadz that his death to America buddies won't be allowed to freely murder and threaten more Americans.

Get back to your David Carradine routine and you'll feel better again.

Posted by: Sjg at June 22, 2025 12:53 AM (aqZN1)

495 Why wouldn't they be? They've been targeted and attacked by Iran for decades.

I still don't understand how some of you don't understand this. It was in the news and everything.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (viF8m)

It is true that on the one hand, the media and our intel communities are often correct, honest, and without an agenda, we also have to remember that on the other hand, there is a huge difference between plausible deniability when it comes to attacking US troops through proxies and openly fighting a war against a country.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:53 AM (uCjyK)

496 Trump could have been the 1st post ww2 president to not start a war.

Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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*checks notes*
1979 - hostages
1983 241 Marines, Beirut
'87 or '88 - mines in Persian Gulf -
Dunno the year - Khobar bombing
Various years - proxy bombings
Current - Threatening to kill our President

Iran has been waging war - if we are going to classify it as such.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (41CYW)

497 I wanna see that roulette table.
Posted by: RickZ


It's classy, really the best, that much I can tell you

Posted by: Miklos would be happy if he could do a good Trump impersonation at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (UYy+W)

498 Perfect. Will text when I am up! 😂
Posted by: Piper
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You get up *very early* don't you?

Ohhhh, I just know tomorrow's gonna hurt.... LOL!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (rdVOm)

499 Trump could have been the 1st post ww2 president to not start a war.

Oh well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (/CkK4)

The "war with Iran" will not even be among the top five stories come August or maybe even late July. Trump is speaking the only language the mullahs understand and they will get the fucking picture, bigly.

When the civilized world comes out smelling like a rose from this, Democrats will surely "move on" to the next phony scandal. I am saying late July here but it will probably be much sooner.

Then what will happen?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 12:55 AM (E0p3T)

500 Tried 2 10mg Melatonin last night, slept more In a night than in a long time. Will try just 1 tonight

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:56 AM (+qU29)

501 I don't believe there are any sleeper cells. The ragheads here are not the brightest bulbs in the box. They can scream and shout and stir up the useful idiots but I think k it was all bluster and lies.
Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2025 12:49 AM (GOJbT)

Imagine if the "sleeper cells" were actually the mush-head American kids brainwashed by the Universities, lead and incited by foreign actors who are here en masse. And not so much targeted suicidal terrorist attacks but actual mass riots/attacks throwing things into chaos.

Posted by: The call is coming from INSIDE the house at June 22, 2025 12:56 AM (8hxDK)

502 Thanks for the info. I did not know the assholes move them around.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (3ek7K)


Watch a Russian/Korean military parade, they have them as a show of strength. Missle launchers are extremely long wheeled vehicles and while I'm sure they use the darkness, the darkness is no longer safe. I'm sure Israel can track a lot of the vehicles, as can we with spy satellites/SR 72s. But some will always elude discovery.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:57 AM (gKDq2)

503 hell freezes over and pigs are flying!!

Mike Pence Praises Trump for U.S. Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Sites: ‘Right Call’

Hard Anti-Trumper Adam Kinzinger: ‘Right Call’ to Bomb Iran Nuclear Facilities

Exclusive: Rasmussen Poll Showed Support for Airstrike on Iran — Not Ground Troops

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (gAN4h)

504 Imagine if the "sleeper cells" had the ability to deploy nuclear material? Wonder if Trump has gamed this out or probably nah bro he's just winging it.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (E0p3T)

505 Ohhhh, I just know tomorrow's gonna hurt.... LOL!
Posted by: JQ

I think there are still 4 or 5 Whippets behind the bar

And the thing

Posted by: Miklos tryina help at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (UYy+W)

506 Democrats are against war, except apparently with Russia.
Posted by: ...
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It's because Russia is no longer "soviet" IMO.

Demoncrats :heart: commie ussr, but now feel betrayed.

Hahahahahahaha

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (rdVOm)

507
Holy Chit!

What has happened to turn those assholes around?

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (3ek7K)

508 Whatever, I don't even want to get in to it.

But let me just say that this is, at best, one of the most extreme cases of Gell-Mann amnesia effect I've ever seen.

And not just with media, with our government.

The government who lied to us about everything throughout Covid, who lied about WMD's in Iraq, who claims (with a straight face) that the biggest national security threats to the US are white supremacists and global warming is the same government telling us all kind of information about what is going on in Iran, and what Iran is responsible for, and how the Iranian people feel, where this will go, etc. etc. etc.

Just like they did with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and we can go all the way back to Vietnam and see the same pattern.

And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)

509 checks notes*
1979 - hostages
1983 241 Marines, Beirut
'87 or '88 - mines in Persian Gulf -
Dunno the year - Khobar bombing
Various years - proxy bombings
Current - Threatening to kill our President

Iran has been waging war - if we are going to classify it as such.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (41CYW)

Oh I see. This is for the hostages. JFC.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (/CkK4)

510 This doesn't have to be a war

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (+qU29)

511
It won't be a war.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)

512 507
Holy Chit!

What has happened to turn those assholes around?
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (3ek7K)

Polls and/or grifting strategy.

Posted by: The call is coming from INSIDE the house at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (8hxDK)

513 Just like they did with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and we can go all the way back to Vietnam and see the same pattern.

And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)


But bro, they too hostages 45 years ago. It’s totally legit. Fox News totally agrees.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (/CkK4)

514 500 Tried 2 10mg Melatonin last night, slept more In a night than in a long time. Will try just 1 tonight
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:56 AM (+qU29)

Try getting a job as a construction worker and waking at 5:30 am for work.
You're welcome

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (gAN4h)

515 Saw a meme of Trump give the Ayatollah a bottle of vitamin B-2. Still shelter but all quiet. Falls and hits reported in center and north.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (DGFJg)

516 I think there are still 4 or 5 Whippets behind the bar...
Posted by: Miklos tryina help

LOL! Reminds me of a guy I worked with, at a bar, long ago.

We had a few snacks for sale, including the canned cheese stuff. Well, that fker would huff the propellant from the all cheese cans. Buy one & pfft-- no cheese! Ooops, guess "mikey" got to it first! Grrrrr.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:02 AM (rdVOm)

517
JQ,

That is hilarious!

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:02 AM (3ek7K)

518 Was Kobar when they tried to kill old man Bush?
And that destroyer anchored they blew a hole in the side - killed 12 sailors.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 01:02 AM (DNJiU)

519 457 Do wonder what the Mullahs will do
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (+qU29)
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My money is on "whine."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 01:03 AM (dDmld)

520 Obama green-lighted the P5+1 Iran "no-paper" nuclear deal.

Trump just pre-crimed Obama's nuclear holocaust.

Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 01:03 AM (jAG+j)

521 We’re fully retro to 2003 and the same talking points as Iraq.

Maybe we’ll get the cool music from then to come back as well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:03 AM (/CkK4)

522 OMG Drag Qweeners are the sleeper cells...

ratatatataaattt.. machine guns them down...

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (gAN4h)

523 >>It is true that on the one hand, the media and our intel communities are often correct, honest, and without an agenda, we also have to remember that on the other hand, there is a huge difference between plausible deniability when it comes to attacking US troops through proxies and openly fighting a war against a country.

Remember when this happened? It was just last year so can't be that hard to remember and nobody denied shit.

>>US hits 85 sites in Iraq, Syria linked to Iran’s IRGC, militias after fatal drone attack

>>Opening strikes target command HQs, intelligence centers, weapons facilities connected to Iran and regional proxies, in response to assault that killed 3 US soldiers

https://tinyurl.com/h6443esj

How many US soldiers and citizens would you say it's ok before we blow the fuck out of the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism?

Just because some of you don't actually follow the news doesn't mean things didn't happen.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (viF8m)

524 For my entire adult life, I have been unwavering in saying that Ronald Reagan was by far the greatest President I had ever seen. I could not imagine anyone ever coming up to his level. I have always thought Trump perfect for the times, but not more than that.
But after today - after the brilliant multilayered deceptions of the last few weeks, and the decisive hammer today - Donald Trump has surpassed him, and is the greatest President I have ever lived under.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (EVFZ5)

525
Ship all the drag queens to Iran. They will have a ball.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (3ek7K)

526 As things stand now the big winner is Netanyahu.

He waited out two hostile American presidents.

He struck when he had a favorable one.

History will tell.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (r2ymA)

527 Try being a construction worker and working v through the night, there is no sleep in it

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (+qU29)

528 1979 - hostages

Actually then I voted on principles, surrender or get glassed.

Problem still not resolved.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (/lPRQ)

529
Amen Tom Servo!!!

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (3ek7K)

530 Japanese movies are weird

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (+qU29)

531 So what's the buzz?

How many of America's enemies have met their final judgement?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (b7rtK)

532
Anna,

Not enough. Let's work on that.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:06 AM (3ek7K)

533 Ship all the drag queens to Iran. They will have a ball.

With or without parachutes?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:07 AM (b7rtK)

534 Heh. Safe to say the boys at Fordow got shafted while their buds at Natanz and Isfahan got the tomahawk chop.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:07 AM (W/lyH)

535 Oh I see. This is for the hostages. JFC.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (/CkK4)


Point out one brushstroke while ignoring the big picture.

No hostages died, though military did die during the failed rescue mission, Eagle Claw. But other attacks have killed US personell.

I had a t-shirt I bought in '79 with a drawing of the Assatollah Khomeini and underneath, like an FBI poster in a Post Office, it read: Wanted For Kidnapping And Terrorism. He's dead, but the funeral was a hoot (the body fell out of the coffin). But there are other asshole's following in that original asshole's footsteps who jus' need killin'.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (gKDq2)

536 And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)

Why would any reasonable person - in fact why would anyone who isn’t a drooling idiot - say that Donald Trump is the exact same person as George W Bush?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (EVFZ5)

537 Oh I see. This is for the hostages. JFC.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Wider lens.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (41CYW)

538 It won't be a war.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)

I hope you're right. We'll see.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (uCjyK)

539 So now we blew up Iran to get back at them over the Beirut bombing.

And here I was thinking it was for regime change. No wait it’s because Iran is only 3 seconds away from getting nukes (like they’ve been for the past 20 years).

This is just like Iraq. All sorts of reason to go to war. They had wmd. They were involved in 9/11. They hate us for our democracy. And on and on.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (/CkK4)

540
Harry,

I'm a woman therefore I am always right, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (3ek7K)

541 And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)

Because Trump is different.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:11 AM (E0p3T)

542 That is hilarious!
Posted by: four seasons
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Yeah, it's funny now, but not when we were hungry and still *stuck at work for hours* (and knew that the problem was due to some jackass coworker what was a selfish stoner fktard)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:11 AM (rdVOm)

543 If the hostages and Beirut are justification for war with Iran why didn’t Trump do it 8 years ago?

Because it’s a ridiculous premise. It has zero to do with hostages. At least justify the nookoolar angle don’t go back 50 years.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (/CkK4)

544 And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)

Trump. Trump is different.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (oSeBJ)

545 Why would any reasonable person - in fact why would anyone who isn’t a drooling idiot - say that Donald Trump is the exact same person as George W Bush?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (EVFZ5)

Maybe this is where the disconnect is. George W Bush ran as an anti-war president, too. While I think he was more inclined to war than Trump, especially with his family history, I don't think the Iraq war, for example, was W's brainchild.

I think he was being truthful when he said the CIA told him that Saddam had WMD's and was going to use them on Americans, and that Iraq was the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.

Just like I think Trump was being truthful when he said that Fauci and Birx and his top advisors told him if he didn't do "15 days to flatten the curve" millions of people would die.

In other words, I think it's clear, ESPECIALLY since Trump 1.0, then 4 years of a brain dead Biden, that there is truly a "Deep State" who drives a lot of what happens in DC and the world. They control what info gets to the president, whose advise he hears, and they are clearly totally okay with lying to the american people and to US presidents.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (uCjyK)

546 https://www.jns.org/iran has been at war with the us for 46 years

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (+qU29)

547 Do wonder what the Mullahs will do
Posted by: Skip

Either they have donned their burkas and are trying to look inconspicuous as they sneak across the bordrr or they are gathered around the well peaking over the edge wondering when he is going to show up.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 01:13 AM (F31MH)

548 Musical Interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lkdqoLt44

Posted by: DJ Mullah Miklos at June 22, 2025 01:13 AM (UYy+W)

549 To mark this momentous day, just put up some new images on Tensor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:13 AM (b7rtK)

550 When you sound like AOC and Hakeem Jeffries you might want to reconsider your position.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (viF8m)

551 Nice night outside

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (+qU29)

552 they are gathered around the well peaking over the edge wondering when he is going to show up.

Drop a JDAM and bullseye the well

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (b7rtK)

553 Starting a war is a momentous day? Wow.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (/CkK4)

554 Somebody responsible should have called the mullahs.

Posted by: Gen. Mark "Thoroughly Modern" Milley at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (dDmld)

555 won't be a war.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)

I hope you're right. We'll see.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (uCjyK)

It's already war. Our best hope is Iran can't play on our level. I'm hopeful that will prove out.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:15 AM (r2ymA)

556
Benadryl makes me woozy.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 01:15 AM (DNJiU)

557 Starting a war is a momentous day? Wow.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Adjective
momentous (comparative more momentous, superlative most momentous)

Outstanding in importance, of great consequence.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (rdVOm)

558 Iran declared war on the US in 1979. Just we never bothered to give them the time of the day, even after they murdered those Marines in Beirut.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (b7rtK)

559 550 When you sound like AOC and Hakeem Jeffries you might want to reconsider your position.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (viF8m)

Broken clocks.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (/CkK4)

560 434 *sits at booth with Miklos*

Dude. Split this pitcher of Margaritas with me?

*pouts*

Did you see how nobody even noticed when I shimmied? That's just.. sad.

*pours from pitcher, into glasses*

*sigh*

Gettin' too old, I reckon.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)

You didn't get the 20$ tip I slipped thru the USB port?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (QGaXH)

561 Why would any reasonable person - in fact why would anyone who isn’t a drooling idiot - say that Donald Trump is the exact same person as George W Bush?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (EVFZ5)




Which is just revealing about the Demunist Commiecrat Left.

The same "(president) = New Hitler" nonsense, even though Donald Trump has very different positions on trade, immigration, and, until now, foreign intervention. (I do suspect Trump was handed some actual intel on this matter to cause him to no longer be reticent about the foreign intervention).

Now is the Deep State playing Trump for a fool with bad intel again, like they did with COVID-19 hype? I sadly wouldn't rule that out either, but I can't help but think a sadder but wiser Trump 2.0 now knows which Republicans are on his side and which are not.

NOTE: I am NOT saying those who doubt these military airstrikes are Leftists, I doubted them myself, thinking Israel had safely handled it for us, like they did with Iraq circa 1981.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (ajDWy)

562 Benadryl makes me woozy.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others
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Same here. But it does work wonders!

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 01:17 AM (41CYW)

563
...

Just like I think Trump was being truthful when he said that Fauci and Birx and his top advisors told him if he didn't do "15 days to flatten the curve" millions of people would die.

In other words, I think it's clear, ESPECIALLY since Trump 1.0, then 4 years of a brain dead Biden, that there is truly a "Deep State" who drives a lot of what happens in DC and the world. They control what info gets to the president, whose advise he hears, and they are clearly totally okay with lying to the american people and to US presidents.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Well... God... maybe you are right ?!
Safest for all is that Iranian women be safegarded for reproductive purposes and the rest of the place get glassed.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 01:17 AM (/lPRQ)

564 Starting a war is a momentous day? Wow.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (/CkK4)

You've said, about fifty times now, that Trump just started a war.

Which Marine divisions are marching on Tehran?

Did you mourn Solimani this hard? Did you tell everyone Trump started a war then?

Explain why you didn't or explain why you did and were wrong.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:17 AM (oSeBJ)

565 >>Iran declared war on the US in 1979. Just we never bothered to give them the time of the day, even after they murdered those Marines in Beirut.


Anyone who thinks Trump started a war today is a retard.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)

566 527 Try being a construction worker and working v through the night, there is no sleep in it
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (+qU29)

Many people do not know but alcohol is actually a stimulant and sleep disrupter. I hope that helps.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (gAN4h)

567 510 This doesn't have to be a war
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (+qU29)

511
It won't be a war.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)

You’re both correct, and the idiocy being displayed by some astounds me.
Iran does not have a single operational warplane left in the country - they’ve all been destroyed. Over the last couple of days, the IDF has destroyed most of the small Iranian navy in harbor. Iran has no way to project power except through missiles, the number of which they have left diminished every day. All of their armament factories are now destroyed, and they have no allies left to fight with them. And most importantly of all, their vaunted nuclear program is dead.

And this is after the US has been involved for about 12 hours. Come on, this “war” is already won. Nothing left but mopping up a bit of mess here and there, but Iran is finished.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (EVFZ5)

568 You didn't get the 20$ tip I slipped thru the USB port?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
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*smooch*

I see it now! Thank you!

*does another shimmy, just because*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm)

569 Call me kooky, but I have been waiting since 1979 for us to hit Iran with a big honkin turban winder. I'm almost fucking satisfied...almost.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:19 AM (snZF9)

570 536 Servo

I told my adult kids, way before tonight, that Trump is the best POTUS I've ever experienced-- and I can remember Ike's 2 terms quite clearly, & every POTUS since.

I (still) Like Ike, btw.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:20 AM (kd60y)

571 If the hostages and Beirut are justification for war with Iran why didn’t Trump do it 8 years ago?

Because it’s a ridiculous premise. It has zero to do with hostages. At least justify the nookoolar angle don’t go back 50 years.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (/CkK4)


Uhm, things changed after October 7th, 2023? Then things further changed on November 5th, 2024?

I know, I know. It's hard to keep up with changes, and the implications of those changes.

Basically, Iran fucked around and is now finding out. Plus the friggin' History. The bombing raid is well-deserved and well-earned. If the mullahs are already boohooing about getting lawyers involved, this war is over.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (gKDq2)

572
It will be interesting on Sunday to see how many assholes turn out to protest the bombing.

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (3ek7K)

573 556
Benadryl makes me woozy
Sunshine on my shoulder makes me cry.Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (gAN4h)

574 Anyone who thinks Trump started a war today is a retard.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Hear, hear!

He helped our ally. That's all.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm)

575 Anyone who thinks Trump started a war today is a retard.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)

As a retard, I think that Trump just got the US involved in another hot war in the Middle East / Central Asia.

Could it fizzle out? Yes. Might it work out perfectly and everyone is happy? Unlikely, but possible.

Is this what many of us who supported Trump voted for? No. We voted for him for two reasons:

1) he repudiated the war in iraq and the entire notion of america being involved in forever wars around the war. He accused the CIA and Bush of lying to the American people to get us in to Iraq.

2) he was going to build a wall between the US and mexico and kick all of the illegals out.

And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)

576 Trump. Trump is different.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (oSeBJ)

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. I would rather we don't get involved unless directly attacked. But Trump has earned the benefit of doubt for me.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (r2ymA)

577 Washington Nearsider, went to a model show today and was disappointed at many of the aircraft models in the contest.

Very few of the entries had any weathering, stains, or faded paint. Or badly done like this 1/32 BF 109F-4 that had evenly faded RLM79 upper surfaces. Or the strafer B-25D with the paint in pristine shape.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (b7rtK)

578 Hi, Berserker! Long time no see!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)

579 Nothing left but mopping up a bit of mess here and there, but Iran is finished.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (EVFZ5)

I remember when we started "mopping up" Iraq in, what, early 2005?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:24 AM (uCjyK)

580 Anyho.

The silver lining being it'll only take Iran's theocratic dictator 20 years to rebuild its nuclear weapons infrastructure. So there's that.





Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (jAG+j)

581 Drop a JDAM and bullseye the well
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (b7rtK)


I said that about the kaaba in Mecca after 9/11.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (gKDq2)

582 And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)

You voted for the guy who spent twenty years saying Iran can never be permitted to get the bomb and then publicly shit yourself when he kept his word.

I don't get it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (oSeBJ)

583
So the next whatever is going to appear from a fucking well??? People believe that shit?

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:26 AM (3ek7K)

584 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-23
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 22, 2025
Launch Time: 1:57 a.m. EDT, 0557 UTC, 0757 CEST

https://www.youtube.com/live/M0Ltg8mXro0

Posted by: Ciampino - Falcon 9 Launch at June 22, 2025 01:27 AM (sPQoU)

585 I (still) Like Ike, btw.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:20 AM (kd60y)

Ooh - you’ve been around the block! I was born when Ike was Pres, but I can’t say I remember him. I do remember Saturday mornings when VP Hubert Humphrey would come on TV and make PSA’s to the kids, first politician I ever really noticed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:27 AM (EVFZ5)

586 Well we could nuke the well but then we would get Islamic Godzilla.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:27 AM (b7rtK)

587 So the next whatever is going to appear from a fucking well??? People believe that shit?
Posted by: four seasons
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The same "people" that believe bare women's breasts can cause earthquakes.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)

588 You voted for the guy who spent twenty years saying Iran can never be permitted to get the bomb and then publicly shit yourself when he kept his word.

I don't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (oSeBJ)

This is such a nonsense talking point. You can go through his tweets, or any of his speeches -- he said Obama was stupid, Biden was weak, etc. because they couldn't negotiate a good deal to keep Iran from getting a nuke.

He said "Iran can't have a bomb" because he was accused of being weak and an isolationist, but said he would use his superior negotiating skills to avoid a war.

And yet this same argument about Iran getting a bomb and being two weeks away from getting a bomb has been going on since, what, 2006?

Always just on the cusp of having a nuclear weapon, but thankfully never having one.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (uCjyK)

589 2) he was going to build a wall between the US and mexico and kick all of the illegals out.

And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)




Well, there is still that. The every fact the Demunist Commiecrats are crying crocodile tears about all the illegals and trying to thwart him is still strongly in Trump's favor. Indeed, he could justify stronger immigration and border security stances on the grounds that we don't want Iranian sleeper cells, and rousting illegal non-citizens is the best way to make sure none ever appear.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (ajDWy)

590 Hi, Berserker! Long time no see!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)

Hey! Been mostly lurking. Haven't had much time lately. The house...again.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (snZF9)

591 These are the same 'austere religious leaders' who say a bare female ankle will cause a man to r@pe the woman.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (b7rtK)

592 SpaceX launch soon

Liftoff from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station is scheduled for 1:57 a.m. EDT (0557 UTC) on Sunday, June 22.

https://www.youtube.com/live/W2Cts2eP_rE

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (J+OHH)

593 583
So the next whatever is going to appear from a fucking well??? People believe that shit?

Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:26 AM (3ek7K)
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A 'well' but it's really Hell's Gate and Satan will issue forth.

Posted by: Ciampino - The Moon God at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (sPQoU)

594 The same "people" that believe bare women's breasts can cause earthquakes.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)

I don't know about earthquakes, but they can cause tents to appear. In my pants.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (oSeBJ)

595 The house...again.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (snZF9)

Ah you love it 😀

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:30 AM (VofaG)

596 I don't think that's what we are seeing Harry. At this point, if the strikes were successful, what is left for Israel to do?

1) Destroy nuclear capability. *check*

2) Kill most of, if not all Iranian Leaders. *partial credit*

Bonus: Cap Khomeini?

Hell, Israel might be done after tonight. I think Trump intends US to be.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:30 AM (bss/y)

597 As Daniel Greenfield writes, Iran has been at war with us for 46 years, yesterday didn't start anything new

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:31 AM (+qU29)

598 552 they are gathered around the well peaking over the edge wondering when he is going to show up.

Drop a JDAM and bullseye the well
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (b7rtK)

I would laugh if, just for tomorrow, some rebel at Google changed their main page image to something depicting Luke bulls-eyeing the Death Star shaft as an undercover tip to the action in Iran today...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:31 AM (QGaXH)

599 The same "people" that believe bare women's breasts can cause earthquakes.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)

Well... whose boobs are we talking about?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:31 AM (bss/y)

600 This is such a nonsense talking point.

Harry paratestes...

Trump keeping his word of twenty years is a nonsense talking point...

Says the guy who believes we just entered a massive land war in Iran. Remind me. Which Marine divisions are closing on Tehran?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (oSeBJ)

601 Washington Nearsider

Someone at the show had the 1/48 SP-2H Neptune kit for sale. Only $470.

The whole kit looked to be 3D printed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (b7rtK)

602 Ah, yes... *spooky voice*...the house...

I need to hire somebody like you, Bers! This place is falling apart, LOL. Whatever. It'll be just fiiiiiinnnneee!

Buy you a drink?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (rdVOm)

603 And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)

I share your reservations, but to say that Trump now is anything like Bush in 2003? I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (r2ymA)

604 I remember when we started "mopping up" Iraq in, what, early 2005?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:24 AM (uCjyK)

The war in Iraq was over. It was the endless “Nation Building” that was the source of the misery for us. Same goes for Afghanistan.

I think the Iranians will sort things out, but with the nuke program dead and their missile capability gone (Israel is working on that) I don’t really GAF what happens in Iran internally after this. It doesn’t matter to us - no matter what comes next, it can’t be as bad as it has been the last 46 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (EVFZ5)

605 579

Some of us with wicked memories remember when your posts were taken down by CBD for being borderline antisemitic. Told you to take sme time off, IIRC. Right?

Still doing business at the same old stand, I see.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (kd60y)

606 Hope BD's house does not have Richard Moll haunting it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (b7rtK)

607 The same "people" that believe bare women's breasts can cause earthquakes.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)

I think that's something that needs to be researched.

Just to be safe.

Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (Dnobf)

608 Anyone who thinks Trump started a war today is a retard.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)


When History begins the day you are born and you weren't born or cognizant in 1979, you do not understand.

This is different. It seems to be taken lightly that Iran declared war on us. While it's true we didn't give it the time of day, they still are at war with us.

Oh, and taking over a diplomatic embassy and holding hostage those employed there is an Act of War. Has been since there were treaties. I guess people take acts of war lightly these days.

Like an elderly Jewish woman in a documentary on the Holocaust said, 'If people say they want to kill you, believe them.'

Death to America! Believe It Or Not! I, for one, believe them.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (gKDq2)

609 The whole kit looked to be 3D printed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (b7rtK)

That's wild!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:34 AM (oSeBJ)

610 606 Hope BD's house does not have Richard Moll haunting it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (b7rtK)

Nice ref.

Greatest American Hero.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:34 AM (bss/y)

611 I remember when we started "mopping up" Iraq in, what, early 2005?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:24 AM (uCjyK)

Upon what basis do you believe Trump has decided to go against his core beliefs about carrying on these stupid wars? From his book 25 years ago:

"I’m no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don’t, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us. Am I being contradictory here, by presenting myself as a deal-maker and then recommending preemptive strikes? I don’t think so. There’s nothing really comparable to unleashing a squadron of bombers, but in the world of business sometimes you have to make quick, secret, decisive moves in order to gain a negotiating advantage."

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (E0p3T)

612 >>As a retard, I think that Trump just got the US involved in another hot war in the Middle East / Central Asia.

Then you're historically wrong. It's tiresome constantly pointing out to some of you who think history started 15 minutes ago and completely ignore decades of Iranian aggression and attacks on American people and interests that Iran declared war on the US 46 years ago and has never releneted.

Iran is the world's largest sponsor of state terrorism. They and their proxies have killed hundreds, likely thousands, of US citizens. The have infiltrated South America and are deeply involved in the drug and human trafficking into America. These are not crazed opinions, they are well documented facts. Go ahead and research Hezbollah and South America.

Iran is currently run by religious fanatics who have stated their intention to attack and murder Americans wherever and whenever they can and they do. I just showed you they attacked and murdered 3 Amercian soldiers last year. Are you good with that or should that shit be stopped?

Are you in favor of letting them have nukes? If not detail exactly how you would stop them and if you can't stop complaining.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (viF8m)

613 568 You didn't get the 20$ tip I slipped thru the USB port?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
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*smooch*

I see it now! Thank you!

*does another shimmy, just because*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm)

blushes bright red.......frantically searches wallet for another 20...considers going to other room to see if wife will loan me one.....wisely reconsiders....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (QGaXH)

614 472 Trump could have been the 1st post ww2 president to not start a war.

Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald



For fucks sake. How many times does it have to be said that we've been at work with Iran since 1979. We may have not wanted to say it out loud or acknowledge it, but it's true. This navel gazing, preening, crap is annoying.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (PGK1w)

615 614: war, not work. Geez.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:36 AM (PGK1w)

616 591 These are the same 'austere religious leaders' who say a bare female ankle will cause a man to r@pe the woman.

Oh so thats wrong?

-George Costanza

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:36 AM (gAN4h)

617 Washington Nearsider, and Aetius451AD---

I didn't save the vid link, but I know I saw it here, a few years ago... some towel-head saying that uncovered wimmens was causing earthquakes.

So stooopid! But he was *serious* or, at least pretending to be serious.

*shrugs*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)

618 Washington Nearsider

Here is part 1 of the build of this P2V-7. Got an hour? Unfortunately, his aft fuselage got shattered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vEAxqMadiM

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (b7rtK)

619 I have been waiting since 1979 for us to hit Iran with a big honkin turban winder.
-------

Berserker - rofl here. Good to see you. You been busy honing plane blades or something? Cleaning up Harley drips?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (XeU6L)

620 Ah, yes... *spooky voice*...the house...

I need to hire somebody like you, Bers! This place is falling apart, LOL. Whatever. It'll be just fiiiiiinnnneee!

Buy you a drink?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (rdVOm)

If I lived close..

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:38 AM (snZF9)

621 This navel gazing, preening, crap is annoying.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (PGK1w)

At some point, you have to realize Harry and Go Time just want the Jews to quietly let themselves be killed.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:39 AM (oSeBJ)

622 Some of us with wicked memories remember when your posts were taken down by CBD for being borderline antisemitic. Told you to take sme time off, IIRC. Right?

Still doing business at the same old stand, I see.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (kd60y)

As I recall, CBD accused me of being borderline antisemitic for saying that the Israeli limited operation to rescue hostages in Gaza was going to turn in to a massive war with many dead civilians, and would lead to a massive crisis, and that I didn't think the US should be involved. I said that when it became clear that the rescue operation was actually a massive bombing campaign. And I told him that was an absurd accusation.

I don't think any posts of mine were removed.

But sure, keep fucking that chicken. Any criticism of any war or any foreign policy is antisemitic. That's a great debating tool. Just like calling everything "racist" or "homophobic" or any one who votes R a "nazi".

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:40 AM (uCjyK)

623 shrugs*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)

Is the uncovered woman consensually uncovered with me? Cause that could very well cause a commotion.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:41 AM (oSeBJ)

624 What is truly astonishing is the depth of deception that Trump has been orchestrating the last month. I and others have been staying that Trump and Netanyahu have been playing the greatest Good Cop, Bad Cop routine the world has ever seen. I am now convinced more than ever that Trump and Bibi set up this timeline in detail over a month ago, including Trump saying at “the last minute” that he’d give them another “two weeks”. What he was doing was giving the Ayatollah one more chance to refuse to negotiate while also giving a false sense of security. Incredibly brilliant, both Clausewitz and Sun Tzu are nodding with approval.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:42 AM (EVFZ5)

625 At some point, you have to realize Harry and Go Time just want the Jews to quietly let themselves be killed.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:39 AM (oSeBJ)

Nah. I don't think that is it. Harry is soaking in lib land. That will fuck with your head.

Go time, he is being contrary and 'ah ha!'ish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:42 AM (bss/y)

626 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:40 AM (uCjyK)

Third request: which Marine divisions are marching on Tehran?

Otherwise, stop calling it a "massive war in the ME."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:43 AM (oSeBJ)

627 Nah. I don't think that is it. Harry is soaking in lib land. That will fuck with your head.

Go time, he is being contrary and 'ah ha!'ish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:42 AM (bss/y)

What did Harry say earlier? "Possible, but unlikely."

You could be right, though.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:44 AM (oSeBJ)

628 621: It may be more concern about getting involved in yet another nation building disaster, ala Iraq/Afghanistan. I get it. I just do not believe that is the case here. Trump is against nation building and has said so. He has written books you know. He is not Bush. Trump has lots of qualities, good and bad, but weakness isn't one of them. Bush Jr was weak.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:44 AM (PGK1w)

629 >>Go time, he is being contrary and 'ah ha!'ish.

He's moo moo.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (viF8m)

630 To be fair, we don't know what, if anything this might touch off.

Honestly, Israel spanking Iran like a spoiled child has been remarkably quiet.

Usually, something like this would set off rockets at Israel, but all of the assholes who would do it are either neck deep already or are afraid of Israel doing the same to them. I dunno.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (bss/y)

631 At some point, you have to realize Harry and Go Time just want the Jews to quietly let themselves be killed.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:39 AM (oSeBJ)

No, that's where you misunderstand me, at least. I can't speak for others.

I'm not focused on the Jews or the Muslims or Hindus and the Sikhs or the Houthis and Tutsis or the North or South Koreans.

They have their own issues, and they can sort that out amongst themselves.

Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.

And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars. And how do I know that? We can look at the last 40+ years of what our fucking around all over the world has cost us in money, lives, and lost higher standard of living.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)

632 I will say that the talking point of Iran has been at war with us since 1979 is Hannity level argumentation.

By that reasoning Mexico has been at war with us at least as long.

Actually Mexico has done a lot more damage.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (r2ymA)

633 Oh I see. This is for the hostages. JFC.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Almost can't wait for your analysis of the correct way to hang the toilet paper roll.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (F31MH)

634 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:40 AM (uCjyK)

I don't care for labels as such and don't really give a fuck who you do or don't like and for what reason, but to be fair you did call a terror attack in Amsterdam where jihadist "palestinians" announced they were going on a "Jew-Hunt" a likely example of "soccer hooliganism" because NBC said so.

So whatever you do or don't want to be called - and as much as you do, in the main, make sense - you can be pretty fucking obtuse about a certain subject when you want to.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (E0p3T)

635 Third request: which Marine divisions are marching on Tehran?

Otherwise, stop calling it a "massive war in the ME."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:43 AM (oSeBJ)

I don't know what point you're trying to make here. Unless there are marine divisions marching on Tehran, it's not a war?

If Russia dropped 30,000 pound bombs on Cheyenne Mountain, do you think we would consider that a war, or would we say "as long as the red army is still in Europe, we're not at war. Dummie!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (uCjyK)

636 584 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-23
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 22, 2025
Launch Time: 1:57 a.m. EDT, 0557 UTC, 0757 CEST

https://www.youtube.com/live/M0Ltg8mXro0

T - 9 mins

Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run at June 22, 2025 01:48 AM (sPQoU)

637 And let me say again, for the record: I do not think either Harry or Go Time is anti-Semitic.

Fuck, the last go round with Harry is what got me on the 'we really need to fucking stop the knee jerk reflexive anti-Semitic witch hunts.'

Disagreeing with what Israel does does not necessarily equal anti-Semitism. It's a sovereign nation. Treating it like how people want to treat blacks or Hispanics is just as wrong in this case. It is harder to separate in this case, I'll agree, but they are just as prone to being fuck ups as anyone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:48 AM (bss/y)

638 630 To be fair, we don't know what, if anything this might touch off.

Honestly, Israel spanking Iran like a spoiled child has been remarkably quiet.

Usually, something like this would set off rockets at Israel, but all of the assholes who would do it are either neck deep already or are afraid of Israel doing the same to them. I dunno.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (bss/y)

I agree with what some others have said about the rest of the Arab world being glad to let Israel handle the mad mullahs for them.

With that...good night all.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (QGaXH)

639 And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)

And how many more dead Americans must be sacrificed on the altar of "we can never fight anyone for anything, ever?"

I didn't realize you were the Neville Chamberlain of the Horde. Peace at any price.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (oSeBJ)

640 Iran has been at war with us since 1979. That's just a fact. Label it as you please but it changes nothing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (PGK1w)

641 Nobody either for or against has started to think through the second level effects of Iran falling, but here are a few:
1) Hezbollah finally collapses for good in Lebanon. Iran supplied them with all of their money and weapons.
2) the remnants of Hamas are finished as well, for the same reasons.
3) and the Houthi are also in trouble now - you don’t think they built any of those missiles themselves, do you?
That part of the world may suddenly become an extremely peaceful place, thanks to Donald Trump.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (EVFZ5)

642 Berserker - rofl here. Good to see you. You been busy honing plane blades or something? Cleaning up Harley drips?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (XeU6L)

Well, we started the whole new roof, and siding thing. I had to build a gable over the front door, and yeah because *me* all of it got a wee bit more elaborate. 5-6 weeks of constant rain turned it into a nightmare. I gotta say, my brother's guys did an amazing job. I can't even describe what they did with the gable over the entrance. The downside, my asshole will be smoking longer than that pit in iran.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:50 AM (snZF9)

643 Night ARiK.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:50 AM (bss/y)

644 631 No, that's where you misunderstand me, at least. I can't speak for others.

I'm not focused on the Jews or the Muslims or Hindus and the Sikhs or the Houthis and Tutsis or the North or South Koreans.

They have their own issues, and they can sort that out amongst themselves.

Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.

And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars. And how do I know that? We can look at the last 40+ years of what our fucking around all over the world has cost us in money, lives, and lost higher standard of living.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)



I would say 35 years. I rememeber sadly the hopes of a "peace dividend' of reduced national debt and improved infrastructure. That sadly did not materialize, and from the "Balck Hawk Down" debacle in Somalia, to having to do the heavy lifting for the spoiled Eurotrash who can't police their own Balkan backyard, I have grown skeptical of any further interventions abroad.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (ajDWy)

645 but to be fair you did call a terror attack in Amsterdam where jihadist "palestinians" announced they were going on a "Jew-Hunt" a likely example of "soccer hooliganism" because NBC said so.

So whatever you do or don't want to be called - and as much as you do, in the main, make sense - you can be pretty fucking obtuse about a certain subject when you want to.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (E0p3T)

I vaguely remember what you are talking about. You seem to have a great memory. I don't remember the details other than the story here was "anti semitic witch hunt in Amsterdam" and I posted a news article saying that it was a fight between fans of different teams or something.

I have to ask though -- this was such a minor thing so long ago, do you keep notes on what people post about and their positions on the issue? Like do you remember what I've posted over the years on issues like the estate tax?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)

646 The whole world has been tip toeing around the middle east because of the Iranian threat since 1974 when revolutionary extremists held Olympians hostage then after held a plane load of passengers hostage in Entebbe. Bibi Netanyahu's brother Yoni who lead that raid was KIA.

Fug em all in the squeak hole with a George Wallace style "Barbed Wire Enema"

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (gAN4h)

647 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (EVFZ5)

Possible. But there has to be actual movement by the Iranians (or at least someone over there.) My guess is they are keeping their heads down so they do not get stomped by an Israeli airstrike.

Another good reason to maybe pause and assess after tonight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:52 AM (bss/y)

648 I will say that the talking point of Iran has been at war with us since 1979 is Hannity level argumentation.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (r2ymA)


It's not a bloody Sean Hannity talking point -- it's a fact. So you don't believe them, either, when Iran's national anthem is 'Death To America!'?

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (gKDq2)

649 And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.
-
There is no possibility of this ever being true.

Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (Dnobf)

650 And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)

You voted for the guy who spent twenty years saying Iran can never be permitted to get the bomb and then publicly shit yourself when he kept his word.

I don't get it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (oSeBJ)

I'm leaning towards the conclusion that more than a few people were desperately hoping Israel would get nuked.

"But that would surely start a very large scale war, right?"

Well, those same people are so convinced that "the Jews™" secretly control us, so once they were all dead we obviously would no longer have any desire to retaliate and completely glass Iran.

So, no, it would just be handshakes all around and we would join the brave and honorable mullahs with a rousing chant of wishing death to upon ourselves and we would sail happily into the sunset together.

Posted by: Sjg at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (aqZN1)

651 I have to ask though -- this was such a minor thing so long ago, do you keep notes on what people post about and their positions on the issue? Like do you remember what I've posted over the years on issues like the estate tax?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)

People keep track of shit you would not believe. I believe skip mentioned writing down anyone's birthday that gets mentioned.

We're almost all 'autists' of one type or another.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (bss/y)

652 "He said "Iran can't have a bomb" because he was accused of being weak and an isolationist, but said he would use his superior negotiating skills to avoid a war."

He made those statements long before he was in a position to be called weak. And it is also a negotiating skill to recognize when further negotiation is futile. Iran was never going to abandon its nuclear aims.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (wQOIH)

653 Retard continues to repeat his stupid two weeks snark implying that Iran isn't any threat at all. He lives in his retard bubble worried that his retard world will be upset . He doesn't care about America. He only cares that his easy life might get harder.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (VofaG)

654 *hands out candy and sweet pastries*

Isn't that what the eye-ranians did, when we got hit on nine-eleven?

*sweets for everybody!*

EFF eye-ran!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (rdVOm)

655 And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.
-
There is no possibility of this ever being true.

Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (Dnobf)

Harry says it's true.

If America ever fights for anything, ever, it's de facto not in our interests.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (oSeBJ)

656 644 631 No, that's where you misunderstand me, at least. I can't speak for others.

I'm not focused on the Jews or the Muslims or Hindus and the Sikhs or the Houthis and Tutsis or the North or South Koreans.

They have their own issues, and they can sort that out amongst themselves.

Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.

And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars. And how do I know that? We can look at the last 40+ years of what our fucking around all over the world has cost us in money, lives, and lost higher standard of living.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)


I would say 35 years. I rememeber sadly the hopes of a "peace dividend' of reduced national debt and improved infrastructure. That sadly did not materialize, and from the "Balck Hawk Down" debacle in Somalia, to having to do the heavy lifting for the spoiled Eurotrash who can't police their own Balkan backyard, I have grown skeptical of any further interventions abroad.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (ajDWy)

AoS Code Pinkers arrive.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (MHlR3)

657 >>I don't know what point you're trying to make here. Unless there are marine divisions marching on Tehran, it's not a war?

>>If Russia dropped 30,000 pound bombs on Cheyenne Mountain, do you think we would consider that a war, or would we say "as long as the red army is still in Europe, we're not at war. Dummie!"

What happened went Trump sent cruise missilles into Syria in his first term when some of you predicted it would lead to boots on the ground and yet another endless war in the Middle East?

Or are you going to ignore that as well?

PS, learn the international agreement of nuclear weapons development. You're a lawyer, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (viF8m)

658 Iran was never going to abandon its nuclear aims.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (wQOIH)

One could point to... fuck how long HAVE we been doing the Iran-Nuke dance? 20 years? 25? Iraq washed out a lot of the background noise.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (bss/y)

659 I have to ask though -- this was such a minor thing so long ago, do you keep notes on what people post about and their positions on the issue? Like do you remember what I've posted over the years on issues like the estate tax?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)

I don't keep any notes. Just file important things away in my mind because that's how my brain works.

I do not write without backup and I also try to be as fair as possible.

I enjoy shooting the breeze with just about anyone, but also will only tolerate a certain amount of actual horseshit.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (E0p3T)

660
Harry, simple question: should Iran be allowed to get a nuclear weapon? Do you want to live in a world where those nutjobs have nuclear weapons?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)

661 637 And let me say again, for the record: I do not think either Harry or Go Time is anti-Semitic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:48 AM (bss/y)

I appreciate that. I don't get in to it, because it doesn't matter, but no one who knew me in real life would ever say I'm antisemitic. I work in an industry in a city where many of my co-workers are Jewish. I have Jewish family members. Two of my three lifelong best friends are Jewish. My two longest relationships with women prior to my current partner were with Jewish girls. And they're just as split on this issue as the rest of the country.

It's just the "you're racist, shut up" argument that some conservatives feel free to use instead of trying to argue. Of course, the left uses every "you're racist / sexist / homophobic" argument.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (uCjyK)

662
Fug em all in the squeak hole with a George Wallace style "Barbed Wire Enema"
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (gAN4h)

Oh I forgot and Have a Nice Day!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:57 AM (gAN4h)

663 Usually, something like this would set off rockets at Israel, but all of the assholes who would do it are either neck deep already or are afraid of Israel doing the same to them. I dunno.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (bss/y)

There’s a meme on X of the Saudis handing out their memo deploring this warwhile the person holding it is giving a great big wink and a thumbs up sign. The Saudis hate the Iranians, they’re the Saudis greatest rival both politically and religiously.
The Saudis are laughing their asses off at the Iranian regime going down so hard.

And watch Qatar - they are in the middle of switching sides so fast it’ll make your head spin. How do I know that? Because Qatar *always* switches sides as soon as they know who the winner of any war will be. It’s who they are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:57 AM (EVFZ5)

664 I can't even describe what they did with the gable over the entrance. The downside, my asshole will be smoking longer than that pit in iran.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Now see?

We can have Nice Things.

Posted by: Positively Miklos at June 22, 2025 01:57 AM (UYy+W)

665 You're a lawyer, right?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (viF8m)

That's scary

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (VofaG)

666 >>I will say that the talking point of Iran has been at war with us since 1979 is Hannity level argumentation.


I will say that's an idiotic statement made by someone less intelligent than Hannity.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (viF8m)

667 I vaguely remember what you are talking about. You seem to have a great memory. I don't remember the details other than the story here was "anti semitic witch hunt in Amsterdam" and I posted a news article saying that it was a fight between fans of different teams or something.

I have to ask though -- this was such a minor thing so long ago, do you keep notes on what people post about and their positions on the issue? Like do you remember what I've posted over the years on issues like the estate tax?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)

Harry, your brand of whiny isolationism died on December 7, 1941. I get it, for you, America is the root of all evil, and if we just unilaterally disarmed and turned into a whiny, toothless country that never so much as discusses the outside world, all would be better.

Sadly for you, the enemy still gets a vote, and the freedom you enjoy does NOt exist for the asking. King George III did not respond to the Declararion of independence by saying “Oh, OK”.

Maybe mix in some history lessons with your Mandarin classes,

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (MHlR3)

668 636

SpaceX launch scrubbed.

Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (sPQoU)

669 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (uCjyK)

You don't have to do the 'some of my best friends...' crap. That does not help your case here.

Or anywhere important, I might add.

Also, I am not sure the 'you're racist' is a conservatove argument...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (bss/y)

670 The most confusing comment of the day:

"Happy to see everyone again!"

- Beth, who isn't coming




Beth should be coming. All the 'Ettes should be coming. Early and often.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (xikgB)

671 I would say 35 years. I remember sadly the hopes of a "peace dividend' of reduced national debt and improved infrastructure. That sadly did not materialize, and from the "Black Hawk Down" debacle in Somalia, to having to do the heavy lifting for the spoiled Eurotrash who can't police their own Balkan backyard, I have grown skeptical of any further interventions abroad.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (ajDWy)

AoS Code Pinkers arrive.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (MHlR3)




Oh FUCKING JUST STOP IT. The two interventions I cited were done in the Administration of Billy Jeff Clinton, and Code Pinko did not materialize for those, now did it?

Just like the mudslinging about alleged anti-Semitism without real proof.

Some of us are just skeptical of any further intervention, especially since the same "Republicans" who pushed for Iraq were later trying to sell us a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" turd sandwich. Why risk one's life to save the world, only to lose the USA at home?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (ajDWy)

672 660
Harry, simple question: should Iran be allowed to get a nuclear weapon? Do you want to live in a world where those nutjobs have nuclear weapons?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)

Yes he does, if it means America is a weak, whiny country.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (MHlR3)

673 SpaceX launch aborted. I saw a puff of vapor coming out of the rocket from a spot that looked odd, just before they made the call.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (J+OHH)

674 Harry, simple question: should Iran be allowed to get a nuclear weapon? Do you want to live in a world where those nutjobs have nuclear weapons?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)

Harry doesn't believe Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon because they haven't dropped one.

He's said over and over that "Iran has been two weeks from a bomb for twenty years," so obviously the reports are falsified by the deep state to get us into a war.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (oSeBJ)

675 Somewhere here I have a picture of a homemade sign
X says Nuke Iran taken in 1979

Have a great night everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (+qU29)

676 Harry, simple question: should Iran be allowed to get a nuclear weapon? Do you want to live in a world where those nutjobs have nuclear weapons?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)

I think the easiest way to resolve this is to make a case to the American people, have the Senate vote, and officially declare war on Iran.

Because neither one of us has any idea what the real situation in Iran is. We know we can't trust the intel agencies, since they lied about WMD's and nuclear weapons when it came to Iraq 20 years ago. I think a full finding of facts, with people digesting and debating the arguments before voting, would be warranted before we get in to any war.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (uCjyK)

677 I will say that's an idiotic statement made by someone less intelligent than Hannity.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (viF8m)

LOL. That might be too strong an insult, Jack. Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (bss/y)

678 I will say that's an idiotic statement made by someone less intelligent than Hannity.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (viF8m)


Holy shit, that's just mean.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (gKDq2)

679 Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (bss/

Some of his best friends are Leftists. He always bragged about being their cuck when his group started talking politics . He would sit back and let them think he agreed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)

680 "I'm leaning towards the conclusion that more than a few people were desperately hoping Israel would get nuked."

It has been alleged that Obama signaled this clearly in a private dinner with Rashid Khalidi, a video of which is in the hands of the LA Times (and they have refused to release). Obama's actions toward Iran always seemed to confirm his motives in this regard.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (wQOIH)

681 It's not a bloody Sean Hannity talking point -- it's a fact. So you don't believe them, either, when Iran's national anthem is 'Death To America!'?
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (gKDq2)

Yes, I would say Iran saying Death to America is more or less on the level of the usual Sean Hannity droning.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (r2ymA)

682 SpaceX launch aborted. I saw a puff of vapor coming out of the rocket from a spot that looked odd, just before they made the call.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (J+OHH)

Some spacer hitting a bong up on the gantry? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:03 AM (snZF9)

683 Night skip.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:03 AM (bss/y)

684 Some of his best friends are Leftists. He always bragged about being their cuck when his group started talking politics . He would sit back and let them think he agreed.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)

Oh, that's what you were talking about the other day. You made it sound very nefarious.

I have said that living in NYC, you have to be a bit discrete about your politics if you're anywhere to the right of Andrew Cuomo.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:05 AM (uCjyK)

685 think a full finding of facts, with people digesting and debating the arguments before voting, would be warranted before we get in to any war.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (uCjyK)

That wouldn't help. You don't believe any of the facts because of who is relating them to you.

You don't belive Iran wants, it's pursuing, and is getting close to building a bomb.

No amount of discussion can move you from that position.

In this case, we DID vote on electing the candidate who promised Iran would never get a bomb.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:05 AM (oSeBJ)

686 Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)

Let me guess though, you're the kind of guy who if you spot someone you think might be a liberal, you immediately get in their face and scream Boomer Fox News talking points at them until they walk away?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (uCjyK)

687 It has been alleged that Obama signaled this clearly in a private dinner with Rashid Khalidi, a video of which is in the hands of the LA Times (and they have refused to release). Obama's actions toward Iran always seemed to confirm his motives in this regard.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (wQOIH)

I think they see Israel as a locus of destabilization in the region. They consider the people in the abstract. Like Stalin pondering people dying of starvation from collectivization. Well, if it's useful.

Amazing how libs always love people... in the abstract.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (bss/y)

688 > By that reasoning Mexico has been at war with us at least as long.

Actually Mexico has done a lot more damage.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (r2ymA)

Mexico doesn't chant "Death to America" on a daily basis in their legislative body.

Iran does.

Not "demonstrators". Not "militants". Not "activists".

Their fucking parliament. Since 1979.

The same way that Cato said "Carthage must be destroyed" every time he made a speech in the Roman Senate.

Guess what? Carthage was, in fact, destroyed.


If that's not a declaration of war, it'll do until a better one comes along.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (qpyNK)

689 >> I think a full finding of facts, with people digesting and debating the arguments before voting, would be warranted before we get in to any war.

A full finding of facts? So, we have a bunch of hearings dragging on forever, and Iran gets a functional bomb in the meantime, and then Israel (or NYC) gets nuked. OK.

And you'll note you aren't hearing too much objection from any other countries much are you? Nobody wants Iran to get a nuke. Nobody. And we are the only one on the planet that has the capability to stop it without some massive, bloody war.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (w6EFb)

690 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (uCjyK)

I'm not a cuck.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (VofaG)

691 You don't belive Iran wants, it's pursuing, and is getting close to building a bomb.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:05 AM (oSeBJ)

Wanted. Was pursuing. Was getting close.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (bss/y)

692 Well

It appears that the AC will be on 24/7 for the foreseeable future.

Predicted to be 104-105 here next week.

Humidity the usual 110-115%

Posted by: Or Miklos could ho jump in a lake, like they tell me at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (UYy+W)

693 Its the end of iran as we know it..

and i feel fine...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (snZF9)

694 > Yes, I would say Iran saying Death to America is more or less on the level of the usual Sean Hannity droning.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (r2ymA)

That's nice.

I, on the other hand, would say that someone pointing a loaded gun at me and saying "I'm gonna kill you" is an actual threat.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (qpyNK)

695 Bong.. hahaha. I should make one. Looked at some, last time I went across the state line. Wow! Pricey!

There's plenty of walnut & cherry wood here, too. Could drill/carve some nice pipes. All the pipes I saw, were glass or silicone. Yeesh.

No, I don't smoke it no more, but may need a 'undocumented' source of income one o' these days...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (rdVOm)

696 SpaceX canceled right after I freshened up my drink. I will somehow soldier on.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (J+OHH)

697 He would sit back and let them think he agreed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)

He usually does agree. He's said here, in this thread, it is NEVER in our interest to fight for anything, under any conditions.

Full surrender to the rest of the world is the left's starting position.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (oSeBJ)

698 JQ, I decided to join you and start drinking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (bss/y)

699 Oh FUCKING JUST STOP IT. The two interventions I cited were done in the Administration of Billy Jeff Clinton, and Code Pinko did not materialize for those, now did it?

Just like the mudslinging about alleged anti-Semitism without real proof.

Some of us are just skeptical of any further intervention, especially since the same "Republicans" who pushed for Iraq were later trying to sell us a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" turd sandwich. Why risk one's life to save the world, only to lose the USA at home?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (ajDWy)

No, and sorry, you right to bark orders at me has never existed.

You are advocating for a weak, whiny America along with your buddy Harry. You need to own it. Sadly for you, the enemy gets a vote. You may not like it, you may throw tantrums over that, but that’s the way it is. We have more than enough manpower to solve our problems at home and to deal with threats from abroad that can make things WORSE here.

So, Code Pinker, visit me on November 11, and kiss my ass. The freedoms you have do NOT exist for the asking. Perhaps you are too spoiled and coddled to see that, but it’s the sad truth.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (MHlR3)

700 Iran.is ruled by thugs. Power Mad thugs. They murder people, even their own. They are too barbaric to have nukes. It would be stupid to let these people have anything to do with nukes unless you have a death wish.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (ilX37)

701 Its the end of iran as we know it..

and i feel fine...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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*applause*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

702 > There's plenty of walnut & cherry wood here, too.

Cherry makes decent pipes, not sure about walnut.

At least tobacco pipes. Haven't touched that other stuff in decades.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (qpyNK)

703 I'm not a cuck.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (VofaG)

Well, at least you're consistent.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (uCjyK)

704 701 Its the end of iran as we know it..

and i feel fine...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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*applause*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

Nahhhhh....

Signed US Uni Party who will give away the victory.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:10 AM (mP0Kj)

705 I always wanted to try one of those really long stemmed pipes. I bet it gave a cooler draw. The pipe tobacco I tried back in the day always burned hot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (bss/y)

706 > Power Mad thugs.

Power mad thugs who think that dying while killing infidels gets them an automatic ticket to heaven, plus 79 virgins.

The old Soviet Union was ruled by power mad thugs. Modern China is ruled by power mad thugs.

But those power mad thugs are not suicidal.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (qpyNK)

707 He usually does agree. He's said here, in this thread, it is NEVER in our interest to fight for anything, under any conditions.

Full surrender to the rest of the world is the left's starting position.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (oSeBJ)

Yes, that's a great summation of my argument and my political views.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (uCjyK)

708 JQ, I decided to join you and start drinking.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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*pats next seat over*

Welcome!

What's left to do, on a Caturday night, in Club ONT?

Let the war-hawks yap...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (rdVOm)

709 Yes, I would say Iran saying Death to America is more or less on the level of the usual Sean Hannity droning.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (r2ymA)

Again, paintbrush stroke vs. big picture. 'Death To America!' is Iran's overarching theme of governance. They and their proxies have carried out multiple attacks against the US, with many killed and wounded, over the last 40 plus years. Those attacks and casualties don't matter, right? They happened in the past so they can be easily forgotten? Maybe by you. IMO, we're just helping to take out the trash. What the Iranians do after that, well, they would be on notice, if you will. Don't FA or you'll FO, too. Pretty simple diplomatic policy.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (gKDq2)

710 Full surrender to the rest of the world is the left's starting position.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (oSeBJ)

This is also a libertarian thing too.

Do I think we need to use military force all the time? No. But do we need to on occasion? Absolutely. If this action prevented a nuclear Iran, all to the good. Even better if we did nothing else and Iran’s current government crumbled, perhaps replaced with something better at the hands of the Iranian people.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (MHlR3)

711 700 Iran.is ruled by thugs. Power Mad thugs. They murder people, even their own. They are too barbaric to have nukes. It would be stupid to let these people have anything to do with nukes unless you have a death wish.
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (ilX37)

/looks at our own Democrat party... and those who threatened the Right saying they had F-15s and we didn't...

Uhhh....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (mP0Kj)

712 Signed US Uni Party who will give away the victory.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:10 AM (mP0Kj)

I am hoping(TM) that something comes out of this that is not imposed from the outside and is marginally better than maniacs who want a nuke above all other things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (bss/y)

713 Well

It appears that the AC will be on 24/7 for the foreseeable future.

Predicted to be 104-105 here next week.

Humidity the usual 110-115%

Posted by: Or Miklos could ho jump in a lake, like they tell me at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (UYy+W)

It was rainy and cold for weeks..WEEKS, while the roof and siding was getting done. I went close to 4 weeks without gutters. I had to spread out tarps to keep water away from the foundation and constantly had to keep adjusting them. Everything finally gets done, and it instantly switches to a billion degrees out because I had to to new storm doors and put up all the new lights. I swear if I could shoot the sun I would. Fuck summer.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (snZF9)

714 >>LOL. That might be too strong an insult, Jack. Damn.

I try to be patient but I have limits. I'm Trump like.

I will allow people to be purposefully ignorant and take their insults for just so long and then comes the bunker busters.

Iran has been at war with the US longer than some of you who just had your balls drop have been alive. Just because you are a dumb fuck who doesn't know shit about history doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

Iran is led by a murderous dealth cult that has been attacking the US, aka The Great Satan, for decades. They mean to end us. That's the reason for nukes. If you are too ignorant of what is going on then shut the fuck up and do a bit or research and give your "We young people know better" idiocy a rest. You don't know shit. You're young. Good for you. You also don't know shit. You sound like AOC and if that doesn't make you take a pause then you are hopeless.

None of us want war. I don't want to shoot anyone. But I am prepared because they might want to shoot me. Want exactly did you think Weasel means when he constantly tells you to buy ammo?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (viF8m)

715 > They happened in the past so they can be easily forgotten?

Ask any Marine whether they've forgotten the barracks bombings in Beirut in '82.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (qpyNK)

716 The old Soviet Union was ruled by power mad thugs. Modern China is ruled by power mad thugs.

But those power mad thugs are not suicidal.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (qpyNK)

Well, they are just oligarchs wanting power and money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (bss/y)

717 Rodrigo, I like historical references as much as anyone, but who is hurting us now?

Iran or Mexico?

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA)

718 Walnut and cherry is god wood. I love working with it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (snZF9)

719 I also would like to point out that Iran even attacked Argentina once upon a time. Remember that? Argentina did nothing to Iran but the Iranians just had to see to it that a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires got bombed.

That should say it all, really, if their treatment of the Vienna Convention of 1961 like toilet paper wasn’t enough.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (MHlR3)

720 I swear if I could shoot the sun I would. Fuck summer.
Posted by: Berserker
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Amen!

Rainy & cool the last couple days. Maybe one more, and then back to *ROAST* until September probably.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (rdVOm)

721
Miklos,

49 here and it will be 59 for the high today.
I miss alot of things about living in the South but not the weather.

Posted by: fourseasons at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (3ek7K)

722 Yes, that's a great summation of my argument and my political views.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (uCjyK)

Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.

And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)

Yeah. Looks like I nailed it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (oSeBJ)

723 I am hoping(TM) that something comes out of this that is not imposed from the outside and is marginally better than maniacs who want a nuke above all other things.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (bss/y)

Romeos Prognostication...

The Left will declare victory, before the Iranian Gov Falls... they will be allowed to continue in power... and we will be right back her in a few years.

We need to change DC, before we can change Iran.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (mP0Kj)

724 I love Reagan and imo the greatest President but he fucked up by not turning Iran into glass for the Marine Barracks bombing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (VofaG)

725 Hmmm. I do wonder whether the 'this is wrong because these guys just want Israel to be nuked' argument is right though.

I think some of these fuckers are actually naïve enough to think Iran would not have used the nuke. THEY are against the use of nukes, so everyone else is by default.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:16 AM (bss/y)

726 715 > They happened in the past so they can be easily forgotten?

Ask any Marine whether they've forgotten the barracks bombings in Beirut in '82.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (qpyNK)

Uh... Oct 23, 198... THREE...

It's not just Marines who remember... I was in the Navy and part of MARG 2-83

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (mP0Kj)

727 Rodrigo, I like historical references as much as anyone, but who is hurting us now?

Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA

Different tools for different jobs.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (VofaG)

728
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Iran fires missiles at Israel following the American attack against its nuclear facilities,
@TreyYingst
reports.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (gAN4h)

729 > Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA)

It's not an either/or question.

We have many enemies. All of them need to be dealt with.

This may come as a surprise, but the United States government is very large and is actually capable of doing more than one thing at once.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (qpyNK)

730 I have a walnut pipe, from the hippy-dippy daze days... smokes nice & smooth, no weird taste.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (rdVOm)

731 717 Rodrigo, I like historical references as much as anyone, but who is hurting us now?

Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA)

Both in different ways for different reasons. And Mexico is even easier to deal with. (Apply DIME. In the case of Mexico the E - economy - is much easier to use, given the reliance of Mexico on our economy. We deny them access to it, they are done.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (MHlR3)

732 The idea that we can play some hybrid version of isolationism in today's world is absurd in my opinion. I trust DJT's judgment. I think the possibility that this could cost the life of even one American young person weighs heavily upon him. I have spent most of my adult life watching our leaders pick up the sword that is the American military and wield it like a high school drama teacher in a poorly acted community theater version of Shakespeare. That is not who our President is. Iran is not done. Their desperation just leveled up significantly. Their ability to effectively respond is being diminished by the day.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (F31MH)

733
And you will note Harry, that true to my word, I engaged you perfectly fairly on this very subject earlier and may have missed your answer:

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611 Upon what basis do you believe Trump has decided to go against his core beliefs about carrying on these stupid wars? From his book 25 years ago:

.........

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (E0p3T)
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Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (E0p3T)

734 DIME

Peace Through Strength

Deterrence

Power Projection

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (MHlR3)

735 I love Reagan and imo the greatest President but he fucked up by not turning Iran into glass for the Marine Barracks bombing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (VofaG)

Yup, they should have hit that section of the planet until the earth looked like a lifesaver candy.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (snZF9)

736 Iran fires missiles at Israel following the American attack against its nuclear facilities,
@TreyYingst
reports.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (gAN4h)

Oh, look, some of the assholes are still around.

Do you think they saved the rockets for just this occasion?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (bss/y)

737 Why is it "deranged" to precision-bomb the nuclear facility of a terrorist state whose declared intent was to wipe out Israel and America? Trump eradicated ISIS by bombs and I don't recall those actions being called deranged.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (wQOIH)

738 No radiation detected from the bombed nuclear sites.

One may hope that the radioactive stuff is now buried so deeply it'll never be a problem.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (qpyNK)

739 735 I love Reagan and imo the greatest President but he fucked up by not turning Iran into glass for the Marine Barracks bombing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (VofaG)

Yup, they should have hit that section of the planet until the earth looked like a lifesaver candy.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (snZF9)

And we were ready too... and told to stand down...

Then... our ships who were supposed to relieve us on station, invaded Grenada.

To put it mildly.... ship's company was not happy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:20 AM (mP0Kj)

740
They've upped the forecast high to 100F here for Wed. A little high pressure ridge creating a little heat dome is in store.

My late cousin's colleagues at GSP NWS office explain things thus:

Large upper ridge will be dominating the eastern half of the country as we begin the short term, remaining firmly in place through the period. Strong subsidence underneath the ridge combined with fairly
stagnant surface high pressure will lead to building oppressive heat and humidity, though levels will remain just short of advisory (105F) levels at this time. NBM as usual having trouble with dewpoints and ensemble guidance in agreement with this assessment,
so as with previous forecast blended in NBM10 to indicate additional afternoon mixing.

At the onset of the increasing heat Monday
afternoon, NBM high temperatures seem to be okay, but moving into Tuesday a little less certain that NBM is handling this as well especially given soil moistures remain fairly high as of late. Could see a couple of vort lobes rotating around the anticyclone so cannot
rule out some low-end diurnal convection in the mountains.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:20 AM (w6EFb)

741 737 Why is it "deranged" to precision-bomb the nuclear facility of a terrorist state whose declared intent was to wipe out Israel and America? Trump eradicated ISIS by bombs and I don't recall those actions being called deranged.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (wQOIH)

That's because Obama had already broken the ice-is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:20 AM (bss/y)

742 Ask any Marine whether they've forgotten the barracks bombings in Beirut in '82.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (qpyNK)


Exactly. And I'm not a former Marine or military at all. But even I remember.

ABC News Nightline: America Held Hostage. Ted Koppel's Hairpiece got its breakthroughrole with that show. Every friggin' night. Just one more reminder of how feckless Jimmy Carter was. Yeah, people forget that shit. I don't.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (gKDq2)

743 And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)

Yeah. Looks like I nailed it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (oSeBJ)

How is that in any way controversial? Of course the best thing for American citizens is to not have to fight wars.

Is it sometimes absolutely necessary? A defensive war for example? Our reaction to the Pearl Harbor attacks in WWII? Obviously, yes.

But it would be better for American citizens to not have to fight in any wars, and we should make every effort to avoid wars. Because wars cost a lot in human suffering, money, and the horrific loss of life.

Again, think of all the kids who died in Iraq or Afghanistan. For what? Or the kids who came back whose lives were destroyed after multiple deployments and PTSD and whatnot.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (uCjyK)

744
AS usual, the GSP guys are clear as mud.... I kid, I kid if any are reading here.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (w6EFb)

745 Rodrigo, I like historical references as much as anyone, but who is hurting us now?

Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA

Different tools for different jobs.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (VofaG)

Another way of saying I won't take a side. You might be forced to take a side if you like it or not.

Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (r2ymA)

746 Anyone notice how many acts of war are not really responded to any more? It is like it is impolite to go into a murderous rage because some other state or group kills a bunch of your people.

I wonder if that is half of why 10/7 does not even faze the left.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (bss/y)

747
And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)

So, Harry, freedom really is free, and does exist just for the asking. Now, I’m not the hack and slash go to war for everything type - the military is the family business that both my father and I have engaged in, and neither of us were or are psychotic - but to take that line of thinking seriously you have to either be 1) stupid or 2) woefully naive.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (MHlR3)

748 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (uCjyK)

Strictly speaking WWII is not what I call a 'defensive war'. Maybe only in the sense that the Romans meant it...

Most of the Roman foes did not believe that THEY were the attackers, no matter what the justification. Look at Trajan's Second major campaign in the East for an example.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:24 AM (bss/y)

749 Again, think of all the kids who died in Iraq or Afghanistan. For what? Or the kids who came back whose lives were destroyed after multiple deployments and PTSD and whatnot.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (uCjyK)

American have no problem fighting in a war... they have a problem being allowed to win the war, so they don't have to go back again.

I can't describe how betrayed I feel... at 66... as a Navy Vet, knowing that all the shit I did, was a case of us solving problems... winning the battles...

Then politicians instead of fixing the damn problems... would declare defeat, and put a bandaid on the real issues.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:24 AM (mP0Kj)

750 And you will note Harry, that true to my word, I engaged you perfectly fairly on this very subject earlier and may have missed your answer:

---------------------------
611 Upon what basis do you believe Trump has decided to go against his core beliefs about carrying on these stupid wars? From his book 25 years ago:

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (E0p3T)

I think Trumps instinct is not to go to war, but I also think these things tend to quickly escalate. We bomb Iran, they blow up some US Army outpost in Iraq, we have to respond by bombing Tehran, Russia sees a good opportunity to pay us back for Ukraine and starts supporting the Mullahs heavily with money and weapons, we get drawn more and more in and we end up with a Vietnam or Iraq situation, or a Syria situation where millions of Muslims flood Europe and/or the US (aided by our Deep States).

Is that an inevitable result? No.

But that is one of the many risks we are taking here, with no debate or consideration and a complete disregard to those risks.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:26 AM (uCjyK)

751 JQ stands up and says:

Bullies need to be punched in the face. Violence is the only thing they understand.

If they get back up afterward? They need to be punched again.

If they still insist on being a-holes? They need to (pardon the borrowed phrase) get their "shit pushed in"

*sits back down & shuts up*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:27 AM (rdVOm)

752 And I feel that I should do whatever I can -- as meaningless as yelling in grey boxes -- to put some counter-pressure on Trump from his voters instead of the Deep State to take a breath and really try to think this through.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:27 AM (uCjyK)

753
“But it would be better for American citizens to not have to fight in any wars, and we should make every effort to avoid wars. Because wars cost a lot in human suffering, money, and the horrific loss of life.”

Sure, it would be way better if we didn’t have a military and didn’t need to worry about the Outside World. But this kind of thinking is normally beaten out of us when we reach adulthood. Or when you read enough history. Your thinking on this subject is just 1) stupid or 2) woefully naive to the point of it being extremely dangerous.

You can sit there and say that the best option is to not get involved in any wars all you want, but The Enemy Gets A Vote. What if the WTC towers were left alone, or if the U.S. embassy were left alone per international protocols? Then verything would be great. That isn’t the world we live in and you will have to accept it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:28 AM (MHlR3)

754 Ohhh... Rumor has it that Trump is building a Golf Course in Iran...

And he already has the first three Holes...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (mP0Kj)

755 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:26 AM (uCjyK)

Russia already has the ass full with Ukraine and nervously eyeing everyone else. China maybe would work better with your argument.

But even China has to be thinking... maybe we could invest in some non insane Iranians to sell us cheap oil later if we invest with them now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (bss/y)

756 Again, think of all the kids who died in Iraq or Afghanistan. For what? Or the kids who came back whose lives were destroyed after multiple deployments and PTSD and whatnot.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02

I was IN Iraq and Afghanistan. This is the wrong tree for you to bark up. I signed up after my dad was almost killed in the Pentagon.

You've now modified your unequivocally clear statement that it is never in our interests to fight to contain the limited hangout that defensive fights are sometimes necessary and okay.

All those "kids" who died in Iraq and Afghanistan were mostly killed by Iran. Nearly all of the IEDs were theirs in some form or fashion.

You need to explain why a bloodless strike against three specific targets was not worth it in order to remove Iran's nuclear capability, a country which has been actively killing Americans for my entire lifetime.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (oSeBJ)

757 >>Is it sometimes absolutely necessary? A defensive war for example? Our reaction to the Pearl Harbor attacks in WWII? Obviously, yes.

So your position is we should wait to be hit before we respond. Against a religious cult who thinks the Armageddon will bring the return of their messiah and lusts for nukes.

I shan't be voting for you.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (viF8m)

758 JQ stands up and says:

Bullies need to be punched in the face. Violence is the only thing they understand.

If they get back up afterward? They need to be punched again.

If they still insist on being a-holes? They need to (pardon the borrowed phrase) get their "shit pushed in"

*sits back down & shuts up*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:27 AM (rdVOm)

Totally. I'm an eraserist. When a country pulls the shit iran did over the years they need to be fucking erased from the planet for all time. The Carthage protocol.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (snZF9)

759 Another way of saying I won't take a side. You might be forced to take a side if you like it or not.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (r2ymA)

Seriously that’s what you got out of that analogy?


Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (VofaG)

760 Totally. I'm an eraserist. When a country pulls the shit iran did over the years they need to be fucking erased from the planet for all time. The Carthage protocol.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (snZF9)

The Roman way. Make a desert. Call it a peace. Throw up a forum. Move people in. Repeat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:31 AM (bss/y)

761 You need to explain why a bloodless strike against three specific targets was not worth it in order to remove Iran's nuclear capability, a country which has been actively killing Americans for my entire lifetime.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (oSeBJ)

'Bloodless' may be overselling it. I am betting there were some assholes down in the mountain one who are... inconvenienced right now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:33 AM (bss/y)

762 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:26 AM (uCjyK)

Reasonable, and be aware I am generally against this country getting into any war no matter who the president is because even in the best case scenario the Democrats/Uniparty will come along eventually and sell us out. Or even do it right away.

The only "war" I want is one of destruction and strength. As I mentioned, Trump knows how to speak to the mullahs. Just like he knew how to speak to Kim Jong. He did it tonight. He didn't mention "God" for no reason at all or because of a bullet in Butler. He is letting Iran know who the Boss is.

I do not expect this to carry on. I believe it will be decisive and what's more it will set Iran back, which is what the world desperately needs. Let's see in five weeks what Democrats and media are talking about. It won't be Iran, and that's how you will know how it's going.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:34 AM (E0p3T)

763 OK... to be clear... I think our strikes on Iran are about the first righteous military acts we have done, in many years.

We finally struck at those who were killing Americans.

Afghanis? were not, until we invaded. Iraqis? were not... until Storm... Syria? don't get me started... Ukraine (where yes we have tennis shoes on the ground), not our fight.. IMO...

Iran, however, declared themselves our enemy decades ago, and has actively killed Americans... and THAT should be the standard. Who the F is killing us NOW...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:34 AM (mP0Kj)

764 Bloodless' may be overselling it. I am betting there were some assholes down in the mountain one who are... inconvenienced right now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:33 AM (bss/y)

I mean for us. Bloodless for us.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:34 AM (oSeBJ)

765 Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM

*high five!*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:35 AM (rdVOm)

766
This makes me despise our previous "deep state" leadership even more, with the folly that Iraq and Afghanistan became. Makes it harder when something actually needs to be done, like Iran here with the nukes.

Donald J. Fucking Trump has no intention of some boots on the ground regime change nation-building nonsense in Iran.

This is the perfect time to end this. Iran is weak, and they, at least their nuclear and terror ambitions can be ended here.

Let's see, Oct. 7 was their undoing. Hamas and Hezbollah have been neutered and then Syria went south, Iran (and Russia) had to bug out. So, Iran goes full bore on the nuclear enrichment.

This was the perfect time to do this, ended Iran's nuclear ambition.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:35 AM (w6EFb)

767 Ya know something very good came from the Iranian offensive tonight.
The US taxpayer has been paying gajillions for military hardware since forever. Today we got to do a trial run of our big time toys and they work!!!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 02:35 AM (gAN4h)

768 'Bloodless' may be overselling it. I am betting there were some assholes down in the mountain one who are... inconvenienced right now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:33 AM (bss/y)


I don't know if the loose bowel stains will come out of their man dresses.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (gKDq2)

769 Totally. I'm an eraserist. When a country pulls the shit iran did over the years they need to be fucking erased from the planet for all time. The Carthage protocol.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (snZF9)

Yup, but if you are going to send your Men to War.... allow them to finish the damn job...

War to the hilt... or no war. IMO

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0Kj)

770 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:24 AM (mP0Kj)

I’m sorry you think you fought for nothing. I think quite the opposite and glad we didn’t have to find out the consequences of not doing what we did.

And it’s not just a partisan opinion that our victories and making America more secure was thrown away by the Left. It’s a fact.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:37 AM (VofaG)

771 I don't know if the loose bowel stains will come out of their man dresses.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (gKDq2)

Well I meant 'assholes' as a unpleasant person, but we can go with that too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:38 AM (bss/y)

772 War to the hilt... or no war. IMO

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0Kj)

Which is the problem. We will never be there again and it kind of sucks.

The powers won't allow it. Trump, bless him, is threading a very important needle here. Unlike Iran and their phony surprise some days ago, he showed them what a REAL surprise looks like.

The mullahs know he means what he says. He is pushing them to a retreat. May get uglier in the meantime, may not.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:39 AM (E0p3T)

773 Huh, ewetub finally got around to posting news.

US bombs three Iranian nuclear sites, entering war

Local leaders and experts react to US striking three Iranian nuclear sites

Oregon lawmakers react to US strikes in Iran

LOL.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:40 AM (bss/y)

774 War to the hilt... or no war. IMO

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0K

So we shouldn’t have bombed Iran?

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:41 AM (VofaG)

775
They came up with a new euphemism for squatting, a.k.a. stealing a house.

Ready?

Last resort housing options.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 AM (rP7Op)

776 War to the hilt... or no war. IMO

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0K

So we shouldn’t have bombed Iran?

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:41 AM (VofaG)

I'm pretty sure we put it in iran's ass up to the hilt. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:43 AM (snZF9)

777 774 War to the hilt... or no war. IMO

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0K

So we shouldn’t have bombed Iran?
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:41 AM (VofaG)

continue until regime change... finish that government, then let the Iranians figure out their own shit.

It not conducive to Western Civilization? Rinse... Repeat.

But stopping now? While the Ayatollah is still ruling? dumb.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:43 AM (mP0Kj)

778 >>Last resort housing options.

Does anyone else know that you're here? No? BLAM!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:43 AM (rdVOm)

779 Hmmm, I was thinking 'have we gotten too used to air strikes not being an outright declaration of war?'

But I think the modern usage is like... a punitive raid on another country. Ride in, break some shit, ride home. 'Tensions rise', etc. Not full out war.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (bss/y)

780 War to the hilt... or no war. IMO
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0Kj)


The politician gives the general the desired result. The politician then leaves the general to figure that shit out.

I do respect Bush the Elder for staying out of Schwatzkoff's way. But then Bush stopped us once Iraqi troops left Kuwait (it was a UN operation) before we got to Baghdad. That left a festering sore. Saddam was no angel and eventually had to go. But regime change should not be part of the bargain. Go in, break things, kill whoever is necessary to kill, then leave. This is what we're doing so far.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (gKDq2)

781 They came up with a new euphemism for squatting, a.k.a. stealing a house.

Ready?

Last resort housing options.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 AM (rP7Op)

Wow. what was the latest one for illegal alien? Undeclared migrant or something?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (bss/y)

782 Iran's first reaction to the bombing of their illegal nuclear sites was to hit Israel with ballistic missile strikes on civilians.

If you still can't see what's going on then you aren't worth debating.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:45 AM (viF8m)

783 We don't know whether Israel has taken out the ayatoldjassho.

Let's just wait n see.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:45 AM (rdVOm)

784 I agree on the make rubble not trouble. It was the 'forging a peace' that was bullshit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:46 AM (bss/y)

785 Today was the first Saturday without rain in several months around here. I am off to bed, Horde, I would imagine that the entire middle east feels a lot safer tonight. I hope that Biden's Dog and family stay safe too.

JQ, are we square??

Bers, good to see you.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2025 02:46 AM (0nHVk)

786 782 Iran's first reaction to the bombing of their illegal nuclear sites was to hit Israel with ballistic missile strikes on civilians.

If you still can't see what's going on then you aren't worth debating.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:45 AM (viF8m)

A valid point would be: why didn't they attack one of our military bases in the region?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:47 AM (bss/y)

787 I do respect Bush the Elder for staying out of Schwatzkoff's way. But then Bush stopped us once Iraqi troops left Kuwait (it was a UN operation) before we got to Baghdad. That left a festering sore. Saddam was no angel and eventually had to go. But regime change should not be part of the bargain. Go in, break things, kill whoever is necessary to kill, then leave. This is what we're doing so far.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (gKDq2)

And by your own example, we had to go back and invade Iraq later.

IMO, either change that Gov... or stay out of it, because anything less just kicks the can down the road.... as we've seen time and time again.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:47 AM (mP0Kj)

788 Square deal, Debby! Glad to see you tonight!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:47 AM (rdVOm)

789 Just sitting down to breakfast now. 9:50AM.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (n+rGF)

790 Last resort housing options.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 AM (rP7Op)

Wow. what was the latest one for illegal alien? Undeclared migrant or something?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Undocumented citizen. I heard it used on CNN a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (NXz8h)

791
I was doing some, uh, research on Persian women. They are quite striking. Saw something about some brave Iranian gal who stripped down to her skivvies and marched in front of the Morality Police HQ in Tehran. She was arrested. Don't know what her fate was.

So, we need #UncoverPersianWomen. Cover the mullahs in the dirt to uncover the babes.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (w6EFb)

792 Could see a couple of vort lobes rotating around the anticyclone so cannot
rule out some low-end diurnal convection in the mountains.
Posted by: publius, Rascally

Musta learnt them fancy pants vocabulations on some visit to Clempson

Posted by: Miklos learnt from tore up newspapers in the outhouse at June 22, 2025 02:52 AM (UYy+W)

793 Romer13,

I agree with you. That's why I said we have to kill whoever is necessary to kill. That's regime change as that regime is no longer around. We suck now at the nation-building part, so we should stop doing that.

Iran is an example of where I want a very Big Stick approach. And the Bunker Busters appears to be a very big stick, indeed.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:53 AM (gKDq2)

794
Well, I suppose they could call an illegal's homeland his "previously enjoyed" country.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:54 AM (rP7Op)

795 You are advocating for a weak, whiny America along with your buddy Harry. You need to own it.

And you can only level the same dishonest smears, rather than address the problem. I watched people get wounded and maimed abroad, and for what? Only to be told that had to swallow a metaphorical turd sandwich at home.

We have more than enough manpower to solve our problems at home and to deal with threats from abroad that can make things WORSE here.

Do we? Why are those goons rioting against ICE in city after city still getting away with it? I am all for Trump on this, but it is maddening that it took 30 years to get to where we need to be. Some of us were warning what would happen back in 1994 with illegal aliens, only to be smeared, not by the usual Demunist Commiecrats, but by the establishment of our own GOP.

So, Code Pinker,

And there you go again with the smears. The whole point of my examples was, and is, that the Code Pink Commiecrat cuntcremes never said anything about pointless foreign wars, if a Democrat was doing them. Don't be just the converse of that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 02:54 AM (ajDWy)

796 So, we need #UncoverPersianWomen. Cover the mullahs in the dirt to uncover the babes.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (w6EFb)

Met a smokin hawt Iranian Woman in the mid East in 1980... before things had gone batshit crazy in that particular country.

3 years later they would shoot them if they were not wearing a Burka.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:55 AM (mP0Kj)

797 Undocumented citizen. I heard it used on CNN a couple weeks ago.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (NXz8h)


I guess "Maryland Dad" didn't poll well after all.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:56 AM (gKDq2)

798 Since I'm on the double shift tonight-- should I fire up the breakfast grill?

Hash browns & omelets (or eggs any way ya like them) with sausage and/or bacons.

Pitchers of bloody marys available upon request...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:56 AM (rdVOm)

799 I agree with you. That's why I said we have to kill whoever is necessary to kill. That's regime change as that regime is no longer around. We suck now at the nation-building part, so we should stop doing that.

Iran is an example of where I want a very Big Stick approach. And the Bunker Busters appears to be a very big stick, indeed.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:53 AM (gKDq2)

One thing I learned trying to Parent Adult children... you cannot fix their problems for them... you can point a way... or you can make it uncomfortable enough that they HAVE to fix their issues... but you can't fix them yerself.

It is the same in international relations... we should make it uncomfortable enough for the citizenry to WANT to change the Gov... then get the hell out of the way.

Then, it they become a problem AGAIN? rinse... repeat... but the US should not be trying to build Democracies... because we suck at it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:59 AM (mP0Kj)

800 Since I'm on the double shift tonight-- should I fire up the breakfast grill?

Hash browns & omelets (or eggs any way ya like them) with sausage and/or bacons.

Pitchers of bloody marys available upon request...
Posted by: JQ

Darleen is "visiting" her "cousin" at Frogmore this week...

Posted by: Miklos is a mite eatamitious at June 22, 2025 03:00 AM (UYy+W)

801 Met a smokin hawt Iranian Woman in the mid East in 1980... before things had gone batshit crazy in that particular country.

3 years later they would shoot them if they were not wearing a Burka.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:55 AM (mP0Kj)


The Iranian Communit Party, the Tudeh, worked with the mullahs to overthrow the shah. Once the shah left, the mullahs put the commies against a wall and shot them.

Priorities. The women came second, as always in pisslam.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:01 AM (gKDq2)

802 Oh, it's Sunday morning now...

Bloody Mary OR Mimosa, with breakfast!

Good morning
Sunday morning

/ugh, Nanzi

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:01 AM (rdVOm)

803 >>And there you go again with the smears. The whole point of my examples was, and is, that the Code Pink Commiecrat cuntcremes never said anything about pointless foreign wars, if a Democrat was doing them. Don't be just the converse of that.

One of the co-founders of Code Pink is Jodie Evans. She is married to Neville Singham, a billionaire who made his money by selling his company to the CCP and spends most of his time in Shanghai. Because he works for the CCP. That's how it works.

Singham helped fund the antifa/BLM riots and every other anti-American action.

There's a reason Code Pink doesn't care about Democrat wars. They fund them.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:03 AM (viF8m)

804 >>Once the shah left, the mullahs put the commies against a wall and shot them.
-----------

So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?

/sarc

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:04 AM (rdVOm)

805 Bloody Mary OR Mimosa, with breakfast!

Good morning
Sunday morning

/ugh, Nanzi
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:01 AM (rdVOm)


A Bloody, but no celery stalk. Just a couple of shrimpers on the rim, the solid food part of today's breakfast of champeens.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:05 AM (gKDq2)

806 *Buttermilk biscuits in the oven now*

*prepping for breakfast*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (rdVOm)

807 >> So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?

But, commies killing mullahs would be sort of a redeeming quality for them as well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (w6EFb)

808 793 Romer13,

I agree with you. That's why I said we have to kill whoever is necessary to kill. That's regime change as that regime is no longer around. We suck now at the nation-building part, so we should stop doing that.

Iran is an example of where I want a very Big Stick approach. And the Bunker Busters appears to be a very big stick, indeed.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:53 AM (gKDq2)



The "sucking at" nation-building was probably intentional. Just as Trump was able to wipe out ISIS very quickly, where Obama had failed, if you have somebody competent who is actually TRYING to do good then you can actually succeed. So can we nation-build if we put in a legit effort? I don't know. SHOULD we nation build? Maybe. It's a cost-benefit thing.

No doubt we know full well how to take down a regime. But do we know how to get a democratic republic in place instead? Maybe we'll see.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (hOOi9)

809 Once the shah left, the mullahs put the commies against a wall and shot them.
-----------

So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?

/sarc
Posted by: JQ

I recall that the Iranian commies blew up the Iranian Mullah parliament building. And some mullahs.

Moar please

Posted by: Miklos is prepared to be amused at June 22, 2025 03:07 AM (UYy+W)

810 804 >>Once the shah left, the mullahs put the commies against a wall and shot them.
-----------

So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?

/sarc
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:04 AM (rdVOm)

Nah... they then said. 'Sorry... these were not Russian Soviet Commies, so they dont' count'...

And due to Cold War, got away with it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:07 AM (mP0Kj)

811 Celery? Bleh!

Pickled asparagus! Stuffed spanish olives.

Shrimp? OK. (Shhh... not very many on hand!)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:08 AM (rdVOm)

812 A Bloody, but no celery stalk. Just a couple of shrimpers on the rim, the solid food part of today's breakfast of champeens.
Posted by: RickZ

*checks*

*got smokes*

Posted by: Miklos is pretty much set at June 22, 2025 03:08 AM (UYy+W)

813 803 >>And there you go again with the smears. The whole point of my examples was, and is, that the Code Pink Commiecrat cuntcremes never said anything about pointless foreign wars, if a Democrat was doing them. Don't be just the converse of that.

One of the co-founders of Code Pink is Jodie Evans. She is married to Neville Singham, a billionaire who made his money by selling his company to the CCP and spends most of his time in Shanghai. Because he works for the CCP. That's how it works.

Singham helped fund the antifa/BLM riots and every other anti-American action.

There's a reason Code Pink doesn't care about Democrat wars. They fund them.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:03 AM (viF8m)


Thank you, JackStraw. You make my point - Why should we "deplorables" fight for a country where all too many of the leadership and ruling elites still hate us?

Now if Trump and the rest of us in the Forces Of Good can get the upper hand and keep it, Great. I'm ready to fight for *that*.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 03:09 AM (ajDWy)

814 But, commies killing mullahs would be sort of a redeeming quality for them as well.
Posted by: publius
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Now I understand better, "arm both sides and root for casualties"

LOL

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:10 AM (rdVOm)

815
No one disputes the Iranian Government's behavior, actions and language over the past 40+ years.

There seem to be a lot of commenters here opposing, in some form, DJT's bombing of the Iranian nuclear sites.

Approach the question from the direction we've previously approached it: When do we disable or destroy the Iranian nuclear capability? What action by the Iranian Government is sufficient to cause us to act?

The current body count is low. The threat appears genuine. A functional nuke floated into any US port would generate, what, 100,000 deaths? Why should we wait for this?

Is there any indication that, if the Iranian Government gets functional nukes, they'll suddenly become reasonable, start thinking like us, that the reasoning we've used over the past 60+ years with the Soviets and China, and to some degree with Kim Fat One, will suddenly work with them?

It looks to me like we had to do it now, and have to at least finish destroying their capability. The Iranian people are sufficiently cultured, civilized and educated to rebuild their government and nation themselves.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 22, 2025 03:12 AM (FlRtG)

816 >>No doubt we know full well how to take down a regime. But do we know how to get a democratic republic in place instead? Maybe we'll see.

Nobody knows how to nation build. It's a ridiculous conceit of our elites that believe this crap.

The world is not full of unique people like those who founded the US. It's mostly full of dull, ignorant, tribal and brutish people who don't give a fuck about western democracy. They care about power.

Americans should travel more. The world is not calling out for our help to turn their country into a Jeffersonian democracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (viF8m)

817 RickZ, your Bloody Mary gets "Bacon-salt" on the rim, plus a strip of bacon to go with the shrimps.

Just because.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (rdVOm)

818 No doubt we know full well how to take down a regime. But do we know how to get a democratic republic in place instead? Maybe we'll see.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (hOOi9)

Americans have a very swewed view of how the rest of the world works. In many way we are spoiled rotten... we expect the rule of law, and Rights... and for others to SUPPROT those ideals.

In other countries we go in and try to impose US values... on their GOVERNMENT, without changing the people (like we did in Japan and Germany). We are no longer willing to change the CULTURE... and its the cultural differences IMO which lead to conflict with the US... we think they will act a certain way, and they don't.

Watched this more than once in the Mid East... where we controlled the country... but did not even try to change the culture... like Iraq enshrining Sharia Law into their Constitution WHILE WE HAD CONTROL...,

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (mP0Kj)

819 Now I understand better, "arm both sides and root for casualties"

LOL
Posted by: JQ

GLARE

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (UYy+W)

820 Hmm. One of the Ayatollah's mannequins is spouting threats against the US Naval base in Bahrain and threatening the St of Hormuz. FAFO act II.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 03:14 AM (F31MH)

821 Americans should travel more. The world is not calling out for our help to turn their country into a Jeffersonian democracy.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (viF8m)

Funny how our Federal State system is based on the Premise that each State will be a mini experiment into what legally works... and what does not...

Yet, we try to impose our government on other cultures, whether it makes any sense, or not.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:15 AM (mP0Kj)

822 Now I understand better, "arm both sides and root for casualties"

LOL
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:10 AM (rdVOm)


The Iran-Iraq War, 1980-88. I was rooting for both sides to lose.

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:15 AM (gKDq2)

823 Hiya, JQ!

I’m a little late, have you made last call yet?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:16 AM (4Uhmp)

824 819 Now I understand better, "arm both sides and root for casualties"

LOL
Posted by: JQ

GLARE
Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (UYy+W)

/Golf Clap...

Meme from the Past! Well played!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:16 AM (mP0Kj)

825 I’m a little late, have you made last call yet?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Nope! Belly on up to the bar!

What would you like to drink?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:18 AM (rdVOm)

826 ahahahahahaha!!!!!

Gotta getta bigger plane:

https://tinyurl.com/yeype36y

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:20 AM (n+rGF)

827 Hot toddy please.

Lemon and honey. Hot booze makes me sleepy time. Thank you, love.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (4Uhmp)

828 Gotta getta bigger plane:

https://tinyurl.com/yeype36y
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Day-um! Boy ain't missed any meals, has he?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (rdVOm)

829 While the ladies have been preparing breakfast and additional beverages, I assembled 11 ordinary straws into one long straw and have been surreptitiously draining one pitcher of bloodys without anyone realizing that I came to again

Posted by: Devious lil' Miklos at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (UYy+W)

830 >>Hot toddy please.

Lemon and honey. Hot booze makes me sleepy time. Thank you, love.
----------

One 'Knock-Out Drop' comin' up!

You're welcome, dear. Hope you get good sleep tonight.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:24 AM (rdVOm)

831 While the ladies have been preparing breakfast and additional beverages, I assembled 11 ordinary straws into one long straw and have been surreptitiously draining one pitcher of bloodys without anyone realizing that I came to again
Posted by: Devious lil' Miklos at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (UYy+W)


So you're a bloody thief, huh?

Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (gKDq2)

832 Gotta getta bigger plane:

https://tinyurl.com/yeype36y

Posted by: Biden's Dog
----

Maybe it's just a mirage

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (XeU6L)

833 827 Hot toddy please.

Lemon and honey. Hot booze makes me sleepy time. Thank you, love.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (4Uhmp)

but... but... why do we want you to go to sleep and not have your company???

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:27 AM (mP0Kj)

834 >>Yet, we try to impose our government on other cultures, whether it makes any sense, or not.

Our foreign policy has been an abysmal failure for decades because it has been run by idiots who don't know dick about the world. The idea that we could remake the world in our image is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

I'm a big fan of Trump's foreign policy. Run your country but if you fuck with the USA we will wreck you. We're happy to be your friend and help you progress but if you harm one of our citizens we are going to end your plans.

Pretty simple plan and so crazy it just might work.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:28 AM (viF8m)

835 So you're a bloody thief, huh?
Posted by: RickZ

Ask in about a week

Posted by: Miklos understands the lunar calendar at June 22, 2025 03:28 AM (UYy+W)

836 Posted by: Devious lil' Miklos

LOL.

Why didn'tcha just ask? Silly boy...

*sigh*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:29 AM (rdVOm)

837 JQ

You’re the best! Got three hundred miles to drive in the morning.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:29 AM (4Uhmp)

838 Maybe it's just a mirage
Posted by: Mike Hammer

In French, such a gut is called a "Nadleur"

Posted by: Le Mikleuse at June 22, 2025 03:30 AM (UYy+W)

839 I'm a big fan of Trump's foreign policy. Run your country but if you fuck with the USA we will wreck you. We're happy to be your friend and help you progress but if you harm one of our citizens we are going to end your plans.

Pretty simple plan and so crazy it just might work.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:28 AM (viF8m)

Yup... America first kinds started with Perot, way back when.... which I still think was the first real target of George Bush's creation we now call the Deep State.

If you look at the tactics... it you look at what HE said vs what the media and 'intel' services said... the playbook becomes clear.

But after traveling the world for years... I know we can't fix them... hell... we can't even fix ourselves.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:30 AM (mP0Kj)

840 Curmudgeon -

I understand your point of view to be something like this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

Yes-ish or No-ish?

Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 03:30 AM (cfyxU)

841 FAFO warning by PDT:
ANY RETALIATION BY IRAN AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL BE MET WITH FORCE FAR GREATER THAN WHAT WAS WITNESSED TONIGHT. THANK YOU! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

I wonder if they think he means it?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 03:31 AM (F31MH)

842 Maybe it's just a mirage

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (XeU6L)
-

Perhaps it's a Mystèree.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (n+rGF)

843 Ugh! Cat just came up to the patio door, with a huge mouse.

Um, no, kitty, I'm not gonna let you indoors with THAT!

Oh, ick. He's eating it...

Sorry guys, I need to take a short break. BBIAB

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (rdVOm)

844 Maybe it's just a mirage

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (XeU6L)
-

Perhaps it's a Mystèree.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs

Da so?

Posted by: Le Mikleuse has been to the Mardi Gras -twice is about enough at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (UYy+W)

845 You’re the best! Got three hundred miles to drive in the morning.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:29 AM (4Uhmp)

So... 3.5 hours in Flyover America... or like 8 hours in Blue Controlled America?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (mP0Kj)

846 Nurse, you staying in Spokaloo for the night?

Safe night, and safe travels!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:34 AM (rdVOm)

847 Ah ...

Apparently the youtube video going around of Fordow is

"This footage is from September 2024 when a Ukrainian kamikaze drone struck Russia’s missile and ammunition arsenal, the Toropets Facility, located in the Tver region."

per the Blog Father ...

Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 03:36 AM (cfyxU)

848 Nurse, did the boys play Fat Man in a Bathtub?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 03:37 AM (F31MH)

849 Ask in about a week
Posted by: Miklos understands the lunar calendar
---------

"But, but... it's *not* the fourteenth anymore!"

---Kid I used to work with, what had GF who's cycle always started on the 14th-- (he was clueless that other women's were different)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:38 AM (rdVOm)

850 Da so?

Posted by: Le Mikleuse has been to the Mardi Gras -twice is about enough at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (UYy+W)
-

I tip my hat to you.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:41 AM (n+rGF)

851 *pitcher of Caesars for AOP*
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (rdVOm)

Why, thank you! Just got back from the concert at the Spokane Tribe casino. Nitty Gritty Dirt band, and Little Feat. Bill Payne still plays keyboard for the latter, and was a huge part of the original band's sound. Was a great show, and I had a lovely visit with Nurse R and Jordan 61 and her hubby. That casino is a very classy facility, and seems to be very well-managed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 03:44 AM (OJL75)

852 Senior Division - Eddie Cochran(Summertime Blues)
Posted by: Joe Redfield at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (KOtXO)

Not a household name, but familiar to blues fans, Eddie Clearwater. Left=handed guitar player. I shook hands with him, and my hand simply vanished into his huge mitt. A super-nice gentleman, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 03:47 AM (OJL75)

853 AOP, sounds like a fun night! Glad you made it home safely.

*cheers*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:48 AM (rdVOm)

854 PDJT sez we struck eye-ran's nukular facilities.

Eye-ran sez we dint hit nuthin.

Who do YOU believe?

LMFAO.....

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:53 AM (rdVOm)

855 >>Not a household name, but familiar to blues fans, Eddie Clearwater.

Different households, different stuff.

https://tinyurl.com/bdefdv44

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:56 AM (viF8m)

856 *serves up buttermilk biscuits and sausage gravy*

*puts out big pans of fresh hash browns, crispy bacon, scrambled (real!) eggs*

*red seedless grapes, bananas, and sliced tomatoes for fruit choices*

Breakfast smorgie is OPEN!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:58 AM (rdVOm)

857 Breakfast smorgie is OPEN!
Posted by: JQ


Slides plate under USB port ...

Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 04:00 AM (cfyxU)

858 Good morning, Adriane!

*fills plate thru USB*

Enjoy!

Bloody Mary or Mimosa?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:02 AM (rdVOm)

859 I have to drive ... so just orange juice. Or just tomato juice.

But not orange and tomato juice !!!

Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 04:06 AM (cfyxU)

860 just orange juice. Or just tomato juice.
----------

OK. Virgin Mary, comin' up!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:07 AM (rdVOm)

861 *fills plate thru USB*

-

Nothing is coming out of my USB port.

/fetches draino

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:08 AM (n+rGF)

862 Stepped out on the porch to tell the dogs good job but it's quiet time now. 41 stinking degrees out. Yay summer.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 04:08 AM (F31MH)

863 Nothing is coming out of my USB port.

/fetches draino
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Didn't know you'd put a plate out...

*fills BD's plate*

(assume you'd not want bacon or sausage? There's corned beef hash instead, if you like)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:12 AM (rdVOm)

864 Mid-50s here, Sock Monkey. Yay summer, if only it would stay this way...

How's your bro?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:14 AM (rdVOm)

865 Anyone who thinks Trump started a war today is a retard.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)

and there you have Moo-moo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:18 AM (OJL75)

866 (assume you'd not want bacon or sausage? There's corned beef hash instead, if you like)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:12 AM (rdVOm)
-

One of our pups has a dog. Last night we gave them leftover bones and meat bits. The sent us a video of a very happy dog chewing away and tail wagging.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:21 AM (n+rGF)

867 and there you have Moo-moo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:18 AM (OJL75)
-

So Trump should've cow-towed to the Iranians?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:22 AM (n+rGF)

868 One of our pups has a dog. Last night we gave them leftover bones and meat bits. The sent us a video of a very happy dog chewing away and tail wagging.
Posted by: Biden's Dog
--------

Awww... cute!

Seriously, if there's anything in tonight's smorgie that you'd like-- you're welcome to have it.

Pardon me, please, if I'm not familiar with what is kosher.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:23 AM (rdVOm)

869 Pardon me, please, if I'm not familiar with what is kosher.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:23 AM (rdVOm)
-

Pass the cucumber and carrot sticks.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:24 AM (n+rGF)

870 >>Pass the cucumber and carrot sticks.
-------

Really? I had *no idea*

Sorry.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:25 AM (rdVOm)

871 *prepares veggie trays*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:28 AM (rdVOm)

872 Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:25 AM (rdVOm)
-

You know what? If it's via USB, I'll take sausages and 2 sunny side ups, please.

Don't tell anyone!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:29 AM (ppGh0)

873 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (CQE5S)

874
I saw that the late Mabe Galor had decamped for Bluesky (rhymes with Rooski) -- so not a surprise.

I forgot how he actually did it, but that doofus never did spell "y'all" right.

I met him once at an impromptu NanoMoMe when he was in Philadelphia on some business or another.

He may already have commenced his hissy campaign to piss off all and sundry before flouncing out of AoSHQ -- my recollections are hazy about that non-event.

About six of us showed up to consume adult beverages and shoot the bull. As I recall, all the other 'rons in attendance were lurkers, not workers (for some values of "work").

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (xG4kz)

875 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:29 AM
--------

Ok. But only if you won't get into trouble...

*stuffs breakfast thru USB*

*adds cucumber & carrot sticks, just in case*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:31 AM (rdVOm)

876 So, Code Pinker,

And there you go again with the smears. The whole point of my examples was, and is, that the Code Pink Commiecrat cuntcremes never said anything about pointless foreign wars, if a Democrat was doing them. Don't be just the converse of that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 02:54 AM (ajDWy)

I can’t smear you. You are doing that all on your own, by insisting freedom is free and need never be fought for.

Go study Mandarin. If you get your way you will need it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 04:42 AM (MHlR3)

877 *makes personal note, to ask about proper dietary guidelines for our foreign friends*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:42 AM (rdVOm)

878 *makes personal note, to ask about proper dietary guidelines for our foreign friends*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:42 AM (rdVOm)

I don't care how much they crave them, but the mullahs cannot eat my shorts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:45 AM (OJL75)

879 Hahaha, AOP!

I'd let the mullahs KMA, but only if I had farts ready...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:47 AM (rdVOm)

880 I am sipping on a Quilter's Irish Death beer. Tasty, but very strong

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:53 AM (OJL75)

881 I'm nearly at the end of my Bailey's on Ice...

Almost time for sleep.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:54 AM (rdVOm)

882 Been a heckuva day, huh?

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:55 AM (rdVOm)

883 873 Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (CQE5S)

Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:57 AM (CQE5S)

884 Been a heckuva day, huh?
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:55 AM (rdVOm)

It has. The concert at the Spokane casino was great.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:59 AM (OJL75)

885 *clocks out* (again, LOL)

Doggo: bar & kitchen are all cleaned up. Tonight was a breeze, compared to last time!

*covers Miklos with tablecloth*

Shhhh...... he's sleeping. Hope the booth is comfy & he isn't too sore in the morning. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:00 AM (rdVOm)

886 Spokane casino is only a couple hours from here. Too bad I can't "get away" for a while!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 05:02 AM (rdVOm)

887 882 Been a heckuva day, huh?

This is a Day of Days
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b5ocLeWCPS0


LIBs need you to succumb to fear; will you? To not only SPONSOR your Adversaries, but ACTIVELY DEFEND THEM as well.
https://tinyurl.com/EvilsAdvantageOverConscience

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 22, 2025 09:35 AM (CZZv1)

888 About the Penn State chimpout:

If they're supposed to be supporting Iran, why are they waving the flags of a fake country? (Those were "Palestine" flags, not even Iran's regime one with the name of their pagan moon god on it rather than the badass lion one that actual Iranians wave)

And why are some girls wearing chadoors? (What Iranians call hajib, which is the literal word for "tent") Iranian women only wear those if someone forces them to.

Why, it's almost as if this isn't so much a "pro-Iran" rally as it is an antisemitic pro-splodeydope riot.

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 22, 2025 09:54 AM (AZg1Q)

889 I don’t think most 29 year olds here understand how opposed to endless war the younger generations are. While Fox News is stroking it tonight, as are their boomer viewers, millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck? And they’re not going to sit back and shrug. They’re pissed and their outlet is going to be voting Democrat next time. And in 2028.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)

Good. Let them bear the effects of Iran having a nuclear weapon. Fuck 'em. I was 32 in 1979 when Iran started this "endless war". It took 46 years to gather the balls to do something about it. Let the "kids" hide in the corner. The adults have finally decided to act.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 22, 2025 10:29 AM (5xuJ/)

890 The secret MoMe site is within visual range of the Bunker Hill Memorial.
A little extrapolation could pin point your location to within a few meters.
So much for secret lair.

Posted by: B Dubya at June 23, 2025 09:26 AM (AjEcy)

Trump To Address Nation at 10 PM Eastern on the Successful Bombing of the Primitive Screwheads


trumpfodrowaaaah.jpg

I would just point out that 99.9% of Iran was not bombed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Of course:

gabeinsane.jpg

aocimpeach.jpg

Ay yi yi, the screeching.


thankyouforyourattention.jpg

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1 FIRST WITH THE MOST

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (aeiyZ)

2 Trump is settling all the family business.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (dDmld)

3 I would just point out that 99.9% of Iran was not bombed.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

So

Mostly peaceful bombing

Posted by: Copascetic Miklos at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (UYy+W)

4 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)

5 I OBJECT!

Posted by: Ilhan Omar! at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (xTIDn)

6 Duke! Duke! Duke!

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (jc0TO)

7 4 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)

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Don't get cocky, kid.

Posted by: Han Solo at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (dDmld)

8 WAR CRIME!

WAR CRIME!

Posted by: Rashida Tlaib! at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (xTIDn)

9 So, it's regime change or bust. I'm glad this is settled.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (jc0TO)

10 Straighten that tie, Duke. Sit up straight in your chair. And whatever else mom's said. Oh yeah, clean underwear, too.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (41CYW)

11 Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb bomb Iran.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (rJ7Hd)

12 4 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)


An honor that comes to very few, congratulations!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (hOUT3)

13 Mullahs had to know that President Trump tucks "it" into his sock.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (7v6oI)

14 "It is the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (b7rtK)

15 I made the front page once. I couldn't keep the ladies away for weeks.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (aOqEy)

16 And the Iranian authorities had evacuated the facilities prior to the big bada boom.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (36PRH)

17 ‘We went to Iran to chew bubblegum and kick ass. We were all out of bubblegum.’

But seriously, I’ve heard ‘mission accomplished’ before. I hope that this not only cut the head off the CHUD (IYKYK), but fucked it in the ass with an acid-soaked sandpaper dildo. I expect we’ll know by the end of the coming week.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (aeiyZ)

18 You send assassins, you get this.

Posted by: FAFO at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (dDmld)

19 God protect the USA and her troops.

This is so scary.

Posted by: jmel at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (bVhJi)

20 see the update

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (KRtlO)

21 McCain is partying with Patton,

Posted by: Redenzo at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (Mb1VS)

22 $5 says that the lack of leaks becomes a controversy in the press.

"How can the press keep the president honest if it doesn't allow leaks to the press at the highest levels?"

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (Plbvm)

23 Wonder if we are going to raise the DEFCON.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (u82oZ)

24 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)

An honor that comes to very few, congratulations!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (hOUT3)


Sought by many, achieved by few.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (W/lyH)

25 19 God protect the USA and her troops.

This is so scary.
Posted by: jmel at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (bVhJi)


This isn't scary.

This. Is. SPARTA!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (aOqEy)

26 Why is the KC-135T designation still being used? They were 56 KC-135As specifically modified to refuel the SR-71 and its JP-7, they were called KC-135Qs. When the CFM56 engines were installed all the Qs became Ts.
=========
I think the 135T's are SpecOps equipped. Meaning they can be refueled themselves. Other "regular" 135's can't.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (Q4IgG)

27 Would it be in 'poor taste' if I tell Tensor to create a mushroom cloud?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (b7rtK)

28 16 And the Iranian authorities had evacuated the facilities prior to the big bada boom.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (36PRH)


Your post really needs the word "sadly" in there somewhere...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (hOUT3)

29 So Gabe is butthurt?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (dDmld)

30 Gabe sure has come a long way hasn't he.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (36PRH)

31 "Sock it to me, baby!"

Posted by: zombie Iranian Leaders channeling zombie Nixon at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (8sv0v)

32 Gabe never disappoints. It's fitting that he said that idiocy on bluesky.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (viF8m)

33 Gabe seems gay.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (Plbvm)

34 OmG. Gabe is a raging douch.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (aOqEy)

35 29 So Gabe is butthurt?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (dDmld)
----
When is he not butthurt?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (36PRH)

36 Gabe should prepare for disappointment, like his parents had to do.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (jc0TO)

37 Mostly Peaceful bombing

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (rvwwT)

38 Malor you ignorant slut.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (i0F8b)

39 Gabe is such an ungrateful loaf of bread.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (b7rtK)

40 I shannot believe that Gabe was, is, and continues to be a poseur!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (hOUT3)

41 What's that cocksucker Malor whining about?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (5WDkb)

42 Who is Gabe Malor?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)

43 As a great man once said, Gabriel Malor is an asshole.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (jGGMD)

44 From the previous thread:

Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss


Again tomorrow, then?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (DgGvY)

45 20 see the update
Posted by: ace
----------
Gabe. Hahaha. The last time an American President received congressional authorization for military action AUMF), was in October of 2002. 1991 was the next most recent AUMF. There have been a lot military actions before, after, and in between those dates.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (41CYW)

46 I have some AC/DC playing in my head. Thunderstruck!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (W/lyH)

47 I remember Gabriel Malor.

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (vy0Ka)

48 42 Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)

----------

He's a True Conservative who thinks sodomy should be at the very top of the conservative agenda.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (dDmld)

49 I have only heard good things about this Bluesky social network. /s

Posted by: PG at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (afPT4)

50 Has anyone asked Senator Jose Padilla what he thinks of this?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (xTIDn)

51 Gabe went down that slippery slope to irrelevancy

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (b7rtK)

52 42 Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)

43 As a great man once said, Gabriel Malor is an asshole.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM


An asshoe, apparently.

Posted by: GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (0sNs1)

53 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)

An honor that comes to very few, congratulations!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (hOUT3)


It's a moment that makes the years of willowing suddenly worth it.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (jGGMD)

54 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
---
the Enforcer youtube channel showed a satellite clip that showed the explosion.

It was ... big.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (zwX/r)

55 He's a True Conservative who thinks sodomy should be at the very top of the conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (dDmld

He's most definitely a bottom bitch.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (aOqEy)

56 "Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade "

Ex quasi-coblogger at AoSHQ.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (fV+MH)

57 News Flash: Democrats are gathering outside the White House to protest the unconstitutional negation of their right to leak military actions. They appear to be waiting for Mexican, Palestinian, and Iranian flags to arrive before beginning.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (NXz8h)

58 Mabel Galore has her panties in a twist? Poor dear.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (0aYVJ)

59 Gabe:

Get that strange cock out of you ass and that weird one out of your mouth - you are gibbering.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (8sv0v)

60 Has anyone asked Senator Jose Padilla what he thinks of this?

You don't want to know what he is doing to a chalupa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (b7rtK)

61 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss

---------

Hey assholes, YOU MISSED!

Neener neener neener

Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (dDmld)

62 Maybe Gabe should visit Tehran. The locals could teach him to fly.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (viF8m)

63 Garret and Ace must be so happy that garret stole Ace away from that crazy-ass bitch Mabriel Galore

Posted by: Miklos likes nice stories at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (UYy+W)

64 Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

Used to be a COB once upon a time.

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (lJ0H4)

65 56 "Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade "
---------------
Way back days at AoS. Didn't work out.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (41CYW)

66 >>>Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Again tomorrow, then?

yeah, we can just keep dropping bombs. The Israelis opened up the airspace for us. Resistance is minimal and often non-existent.

there is always the chance that they get a missile up and it hits a plane. Let's pray.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (KRtlO)

67 https://www.youtube.com/live/LpzssWYim38

The Enforcer claims to show geo-located footage of the attacks (whatever that means).

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (uqyLy)

68 Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade


He was a lying, cocksucking cob who lost his mind.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (5WDkb)

69 54 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
----

Sure, the custodial staff will have it ready to return to work in a jiffy.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (36PRH)

70 Well I guess the democrats can celebrate Trump losing his MAGA base.

Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (kB+Uw)

71 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)

72 >Iran said no major damage at Fordow.


Just a scratch.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (i0F8b)

73 Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (aeiyZ)
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Ah, the Jeopardy question to the statement, "Someone who matters not a whit."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (IBQGV)

74 Tehran Andy Cooper, "Fordow will buff right out."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (b7rtK)

75 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss

---------

Hey assholes, YOU MISSED!

Neener neener neener
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (dDmld)

When they move their lips you know they’re lying

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (ANuwa)

76 LOL. Gabe Malor.

Posted by: Nickelback at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (/0VpY)

77 Bluesky? Really Gabe?

Say hello to Jonah Goldberg for me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (dDmld)

78 Good lord, Malor.

WTF is wrong with him?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (zwX/r)

79 My guess is we know exactly how much damage was done and it was spectacular.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (aOqEy)

80 Kind of fitting that I have music from Gladiator playing on my 'puter right now. Barbarian Horde.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (0aYVJ)

81 Who is Gabe Malor?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

He was a lying, cocksucking cob who lost his mind.
Posted by: rickb223


The first two are a problem.

The third is kind of expected, riding herd on us Morons for years.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (DgGvY)

82 70 Well I guess the democrats can celebrate Trump losing his MAGA base.
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (kB+Uw)

===

Just like when he killed that Syrian general by missile in his first term.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (Plbvm)

83 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM


I take it your rhinestone- and sequin-induced rashes have subsided enough for you to sit?

Congratulations! Just in time for the semi-annual Commentator Evaluations that Ace and the CoBs are hard at work on.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2025 09:52 PM (0sNs1)

84 Thomas Massie… what a contrarian crank

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (ANuwa)

85 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
---
So? Muslims lie as a matter of religious obligation.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (IBQGV)

86 4 Damn, I made the main page! I gotta sit down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (u73oe)
——

Congrats, have a nice Islay. The Blade had TWO of them, on the same post. It was the post about that Britney Griner whore getting exchanged out of Russia. It took a very big check to the tip jar to pull that off. LOL.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (aeiyZ)

87 News Flash: Democrats are gathering outside the White House to protest the unconstitutional negation of their right to leak military actions. They appear to be waiting for Mexican, Palestinian, and Iranian flags to arrive before beginning.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (NXz8h)

Time to set up the Marshall stacks, and blast the national anthem and the Battle Hymn of the Republic. Make sure the sound system is set to 11!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (S/Y4j)

88 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
----

Sure, the custodial staff will have it ready to return to work in a jiffy.


*caff, caff*
Uh, boss, I think I'm getting sick. Yup definitely not feeling well. It'll be a few days before I can come back to work.

Posted by: Iranian nuclear scientist at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (Riz8t)

89 With Gabe, the TDS turned into an STD.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (b7rtK)

90 lol, the America-haters are all gonna be (more) insane!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (alnxS)

91 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

We've also destroyed Tel Aviv!

Posted by: Iran! at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (xTIDn)

92 Well I guess the democrats can celebrate Trump losing his MAGA base.
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM


Oh noes!

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (jc0TO)

93 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U

Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (od0dV)

94 100,000+ viewers on The Enforcer live stream.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (uqyLy)

95 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram


Reverse Taqiyya is a bitch, eh Mohammed?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (DgGvY)

96 Gen. Suleimani was IRCG.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (b7rtK)

97 White House broadcast feed now live (TE).

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (uqyLy)

98 6 homers for the Mets against the Phillies tonight. Bombs going off everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (viF8m)

99 Only 14 30,000 pound bombs left.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (tuLbh)

100 Wow, you go to an afternoon BBQ and I come home to this?

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (77W69)

101 I hope Trump says, "To the Marines who died in Beirut, America remembers you."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (b7rtK)

102 98 6 homers for the Mets against the Phillies tonight. Bombs going off everywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Got the game on here, too. *fistbump*

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (41CYW)

103 71 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)


They haven't realized that President Trump was using "two weeks" in the AoS flexible timeframe!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (hOUT3)

104 85 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
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So? Muslims lie as a matter of religious obligation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (IBQGV)
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How's that taqiyya taste, BITCHES!

Posted by: POTUS at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (36PRH)

105 McCain is partying with Patton,
Posted by: Redenzo at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (Mb1VS)


Had a family member was was in the Hanoi Hilton with McCain. I doubt Patton is partying with him.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (W/lyH)

106 Who is Gabe Malor?

He likes soccer and thought the World Cup was the ultimate sporting event.

Nuff said.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (pEVER)

107 Gabe Malor talks like a fag and his shit is all retarded.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (xzkgE)

108 From the AOSHQ archives (March 2013):

*clears throat*

Gabriel Malor is an asshole. He jumped ship to the New York Daily News without ever acknowledging that I am his intellectual and philosophical father, and that I made him, as a baker would make a loaf of Ungrateful Bread.
I have chosen him to accept this award on my behalf out of spite.

Thank you, John, and anyone else for this award. I appreciate it. It is a validation that I, and not the human ventriloquist doll reading this statement, am a true force in the online media.

Thank you again, and please makes sure that that your thunderous applause is directed solely towards me and not this sad puppet that stands before you in all his shame.

-Ace

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (jGGMD)

109 98 6 homers for the Mets against the Phillies tonight. Bombs going off everywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (viF8m)


More bombs than Jimmy Kimmell's career.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (aOqEy)

110 The name Gabe Malor sounds very familiar to me.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (AThW+)

111 85 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h)
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So? Muslims lie as a matter of religious obligation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (IBQGV)

Taqiyya

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (ANuwa)

112 From the comments, Gabe obviously left a lasting impression.

An obviously negative one.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (b7rtK)

113 Women be posting their L's

Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (ACpVb)

114 Al Jazeera is claiming US Trump lied because he didn't wait the full two weeks.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (NXz8h/i]

Mostly two weeks.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (UztFL)

115 LOL, Anna!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (alnxS)

116 The lady in the ad seems nice

Posted by: Shade tree expert at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (+abK1)

117 Trump in 5 minutes (TE). Also Iran is blaming everyone including IAEA of complicity

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:57 PM (uqyLy)

118 WAR CRIME!

WAR CRIME!
Posted by: Rashida Tlaib! at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (xTIDn)

Girl, your brother has the herpes simplex 10.

Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (R6Hhu)

119 72 >Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

It's just a flesh wound.

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (yjTHn)

120
Thank you again, and please makes sure that that your thunderous applause is directed solely towards me and not this sad puppet that stands before you in all his shame.

-Ace
Posted by: Dr. T at June

Lol

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (77W69)

121 Iran threatens legal action.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (tuLbh)

122 Message to the Iranian people - When the press shows up, remember - teeth and bras.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (AThW+)

123 This Malor guy talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (sp5rp)

124 Wonder if we can measure the radiation levels from orbit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (aOqEy)

125 >Also Iran is blaming everyone including IAEA of complicity.

IAEA? The assemble it yourself shelving people?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (i0F8b)

126 ell I guess the democrats can celebrate Trump losing his MAGA base.

Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (kB+Uw)

Those half dozen new bulwark enthusiasts will be sorely missed. I'm sure they're busy creating cucksky accounts right now.

Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (aqZN1)

127 Anyone who knows Trump even a little knew what he meant by he'll "make a decision within two weeks".

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (E0p3T)

128 Rancid Tilapia

Please fly to Fordow and tie yourself to the entrance.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (b7rtK)

129 A bigger bomb than Waterworld.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (tuLbh)

130 Someone is speaking on the WH stream. Says 6 minutes to go.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (uqyLy)

131
So Obama is getting another Nobel Peace Prize?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (QnmlO)

132 Gawd I can't wait to see all the old Karen's screaming later on social media.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (UztFL)

133 Winter is coming.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (jc0TO)

134 >>From the comments, Gabe obviously left a lasting impression.

>>An obviously negative one.

He's a condescending asshole who is almost always wrong. So yea.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (viF8m)

135 And here we go...
...
...

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (36PRH)

136 WAR CRIME!
Posted by: Rashida Tlaib! at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (xTIDn)

Girl, your brother has the herpes simplex 10.
Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (R6Hhu)


Copycat.

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (jGGMD)

137 112, Anna,
Mabe Galore abused his power of cob now and again for the audacity of challenging the alphabet agenda.

Not missed in the least and the fetid swamps of bluesky is exactly where he should be.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (ctrM5)

138 Highlight reel ?

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (jAG+j)

139 Trump should hold up a satellite photo of where their supreme leader is holed up. “We took no action on this target…for now.”

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (u73oe)

140 Two minutes.

Remember Barky? 10 pm presser. Shows up at 11pm. Treated the press like the pieces of shit they were and are. One good quality.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (jvJvP)

141 So it begins.

----

Two videos of the gigantic bomb blasts:

https://tinyurl.com/z5tdrwpy
(Jfeed)

HUGE.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (6ydKt)

142 ...
Ok I can just wait.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (36PRH)

143 IAEA? The assemble it yourself shelving people?

The cinammon rolls are underrated

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (UztFL)

144 Any major country jumping to Iran’s aid? No
Any minor country? No
Terrorist groups like hezbollah and Hamas? Yes
American NPCs at Penn Station? Yes

Speaks volumes

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (i5Vkf)

145 With good reason, Jennifer. If they told you what they were planning, you and your media peers would have blabbed it all over creation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (h7ZuX)

Most of all they would told Iran. Jarrett and Obama must be CRYING their little fucking islamist eyes out tonight.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (E0p3T)

146 101 I hope Trump says, "To the Marines who died in Beirut, America remembers you."
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (b7rtK)

Yes, this.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (77W69)

147 I remember when Bill Clinton showed up and made Gaylord a non-entity at his own press conference.

Some light bringer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (b7rtK)

148 Not to be a downer, but I wonder if President Trump had a speech prepared if things went sideways.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (IBQGV)

149 Winter is coming.
Posted by: toby928


Edgar Winter is MAGA?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (DgGvY)

150 123 RMB, Thousand cock stare is a sad thing to witness. So is being on bluesky.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (ctrM5)

151 Trump at podium

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (uqyLy)

152 They are now saying 14 to 16 MOPs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (tuLbh)

153 Professor Squirrel

Eisenhower did for Normandy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (b7rtK)

154 Gabe Malor has the sadz. Fuck that pussy … hater

Posted by: Big Star at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (Modkf)

155 Hail to the Chef

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (+qU29)

156 So it begins.

----

Two videos of the gigantic bomb blasts:

https://tinyurl.com/z5tdrwpy
(Jfeed)

HUGE.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM


Those need to be set to music.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (jc0TO)

157 94 100,000+ viewers on The Enforcer live stream.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (uqyLy)


this is bullshit!

Posted by: CNN at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (pIfcn)

158 Here's Trump!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (NwfFc)

159 My friends across the street, the Mom may wear her Trump hat to church here in Canada,

I love those people.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (jvJvP)

160 We made Japan surrender after dropping our entire atomic arsenal.

So having 14 to 16 is a nice buffer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (b7rtK)

161 Gabe Malor used to be a cob here until he flounced out. He's not missed. Sad little poofter.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (PGK1w)

162 PDT should tell Gabe and the treasonous Dems, "Impeach me. I don't care. I did what needed to be done."

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (aBgBM)

163 Showtime.

Trump's got Vance, Rubio, and Hegseth standing behind him.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (6ydKt)

164 Big 3 with him

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (+qU29)

165 Big bada boom

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (aOqEy)

166 Hegseth looks like he's in "LFG" mode.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (jGGMD)

167 145. Arrest them.

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (FZn/N)

168
They are now saying 14 to 16 MOPs.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (tuLbh)

________

Hope they saved a couple for Los Angeles.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (QnmlO)

169 148 Not to be a downer, but I wonder if President Trump had a speech prepared if things went sideways.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (IBQGV)

"We'll get them in a few days...."

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (jvJvP)

170 Trump doing a good job of reminding everyone that we were already in conflict with Iran.

Today's strikes didn't start anything.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (Dnobf)

171 The explosion videos looks rather nuclear.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (AThW+)

172 Big bada boom?

Moolti-pass

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (b7rtK)

173 Thanks Bibi

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (uqyLy)

174 Very good to have VP, SecDef and SoS right there with PDT.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (3ImbR)

175 161 Gabe Malor used to be a cob here until he flounced out. He's not missed. Sad little poofter.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (PGK1w)

He squeaked when he walked.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (aOqEy)

176 Like no team has ever worked as before.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (jvJvP)

177 I hope Trump gives another he died like a dog type speech.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (77W69)

178 61 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss

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So the guys who lied about "not making a bomb" are saying that there was no damage at the site where they are definitely "not making a bomb"?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:04 PM (pI9a0)

179 161 Gabe Malor used to be a cob here until he flounced out. He's not missed. Sad little poofter.
Posted by: Puddleglum at

I haven’t even thought about him. Some people are just like that, you know. Unremarkable.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (p4NUW)

180 "Remember, there are many targets left."

Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (ju/6W)

181 160 anyone remember the Chicago song " Harry Truman"? Well, give them hell, PDT.

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (FZn/N)

182 Ouch.

There will be peace or Iran will suffer....

Sweet.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (jvJvP)

183 Four white guys on the screen. Fat incompetent lesbians hardest hit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (dDmld)

184
During PRIDE MONTH!!!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (QnmlO)

185 Not much could go sideways on this operation

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (+qU29)

186 This bombing will be go down in history and be talked about for centuries... wait wha...???

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (gAN4h)

187 Hegseth at 8am tomorrow morning.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (uqyLy)

188 I like that line. "If we can hit you there, we can hit you anywhere."

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (jGGMD)

189 Now I am imagining Trump singing the song from The Mikado of him having a list.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (b7rtK)

190 Is Trump planning on bombing them back to the stone age?

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (AThW+)

191 Liked it!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (mP0Kj)

192 Truly awesome.

Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (USyCi)

193 Short and Sweet.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (i0F8b)

194 Short and sweet.

Very sweet.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (3ImbR)

195 Short, sweet, and to the point.

Basically, he just told Iran, "Do not test my resolve. You will disarm NOW or we will destroy you."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (IBQGV)

196 Gabriel Malor is an asshole. He jumped ship to the New York Daily News without ever acknowledging that I am his intellectual and philosophical father, and that I made him, as a baker would make a loaf of Ungrateful Bread.
I have chosen him to accept this award on my behalf out of spite.

Thank you, John, and anyone else for this award. I appreciate it. It is a validation that I, and not the human ventriloquist doll reading this statement, am a true force in the online media.

Thank you again, and please makes sure that that your thunderous applause is directed solely towards me and not this sad puppet that stands before you in all his shame.

-Ace

Thanks for that, Dr. T.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (KRtlO)

197 He said "God Bless Israel!" That must be grounds for impeachment!

Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (od0dV)

198 Hegs isn't going to get much sleep.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (jc0TO)

199 Is there definitely no way to vote for him in 2024 again?

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (E0p3T)

200 Is this a bad time to bring up Obama's (and Biden's) Iran deal that gave Iran billions of dollars and also provided cover for them to make a fucking bomb.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (pI9a0)

201 The ad-libbed prayer, was... something.

Short but sweet speech, though.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (6ydKt)

202 190 Is Trump planning on bombing them back to the stone age?
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (AThW+)

/Looks apthread...

Oh... the R-13 Doctrine? I hope so.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (mP0Kj)

203 > They are now saying 14 to 16 MOPs.
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It's speculated we had 20.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (Q4IgG)

204 Hegseth looks like he's in "LFG" mode.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:03 PM (jGGMD)

He's Looking For a Group? But they just completed a 25-man raid! On Mythic Difficulty!

Posted by: pookysgirl , making World Of Warcraft jokes at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (Wt5PA)

205 Succinct.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (41CYW)

206 It's nice not to have a doped out vegetable making decisions.

CBC news. Now. Sweet comedy.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (jvJvP)

207 >>I hope Trump gives another he died like a dog type speech.

Abu cried liked a dog. Don't cry Abu. I wouldn't have cried.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (viF8m)

208 Hey, we know we where the President, VP, SoS and Def Secretary were when this happened.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (+qU29)

209 The problem with taking out Fordow is it’s under a mountain and a mountain can absorb a shit ton of energy.

If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (XV/Pl)

210 My #39

I called Gabe an ungrateful loaf of bread.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (b7rtK)

211 92 Well I guess the democrats can celebrate Trump losing his MAGA base.
Posted by: Ex maga at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM

Oh noes!
Posted by: toby928



(whispers)He won't. Sad wishcasting trolls.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (PGK1w)

212 Short and on-point. Perfect at this moment.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (aBgBM)

213 AOC:

The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.

It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.

Posted by: Iran! at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (xTIDn)

214 Speculated we had 20 total.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (Q4IgG)

215 Trump just made Ron Paul the next president.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (E0p3T)

216 On time, quick, to the point.
excellent speech

remember tfg who was always 40 minutes late and said "uh" multiple times in a single sentence?

what a different and better world we live in today!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (alnxS)

217 Abu cried liked a dog. Don't cry Abu. I wouldn't have cried.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (viF8m)

Best speech ever.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (77W69)

218 You mean vote in - 2028?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (b7rtK)

219 Right now, Terry Moran is crying into a pint of Ben and Jerry's.

Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at June 21, 2025 10:08 PM (ACpVb)

220 It was quite peaceful as the bombs fell and the missiles cruised. Then it wasn't. Then it was

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (IG2sK)

221 The Mullahs tried to call his bluff. Trump wasn't bluffing.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (i0F8b)

222 Can they make new MOPs?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (tuLbh)

223 My #39

I called Gabe an ungrateful loaf of bread.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (b7rtK)

Beat me to it.

Posted by: pookysgirl has a long memory at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (Wt5PA)

224 213 AOC:

The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.

It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.

Can we send her back to Puerto Rico?

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (AThW+)

225
How many leftists will put Iran flag avatars on their FB profiles?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (QnmlO)

226 During PRIDE MONTH!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM

Well, there was certainly a lot of surprise penetration.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (sp5rp)

227 "Trump's got Vance, Rubio, and Hegseth standing behind him."

I wondered about that. What was the point? None of them spoke. Did they ask to be in the frame? Hegseth, at least, has a lot to do. Perhaps it's a campaign photo for 2028.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)

228 215 Trump just made Ron Paul the next president

...

That's one take. It's bananas. But it's a take.

Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (wGun1)

229 178 61 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss

---------

So the guys who lied about "not making a bomb" are saying that there was no damage at the site where they are definitely "not making a bomb"?


It was a baby formula factory! With Geiger counters!

Posted by: Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (Riz8t)

230 Right now, Terry Moran is crying into a pint of Ben and Jerry's.

He's probably hate-fvcking a gallon of Jerry Garcia.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (b7rtK)

231 I voted for this!

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (aBgBM)

232 News during Trump speech (TE). Confirmation of complete destruction of 3 targets. Pictures from Situation Room.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (uqyLy)

233 AOC:

The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.

It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.


So bombing a country that has been attacking us for decades is an impeachable offense but the extrajudicial killing of a US citizen via drone strike is totes cool? Is that how it works?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (lUFok)

234 213 AOC:

The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations.

It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.
Posted by: Iran! at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (xTIDn)


Oh noes! Not the em peach mints!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (aOqEy)

235 Gabe Malor stopped sucking cock to post that. Miracles never cease.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (dR6yv)

236 226 During PRIDE MONTH!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM

Well, there was certainly a lot of surprise penetration.

Went in dry

Posted by: Shade tree expert at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (+abK1)

237 There was this shit.

We blew that shit up, like only we could.

If Iran doesn't STFD and STFU, we'll blow up even more shit.

Yeah, G-d!

Posted by: speech, TL;DR version at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (DgGvY)

238 On the bright side, Bluesky will be littered with Iranian flag avatars tomorrow.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (E0p3T)

239 215 Trump just made Ron Paul the next president.
Posted by: ... at June 21
---------------
Give me $20 on The Bandit. And $20 on Vance.

Posted by: Little Enos Burdette at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (41CYW)

240 OMG, memes already! Is this a great country or what?

Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (14URa)

241 Gabe Malor stopped sucking cock to post that. Miracles never cease.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (dR6yv)

Objection assumes facts not in evidence

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (E0p3T)

242 I now wonder how the various talking heads are going to stretch that out to a 3 hour tour, er, show.

Not enough to watch, though.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (S/Y4j)

243 President Trump: Iran must now make peace.



Posted by: L - No nic,another fine day at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (NFX2v)

244 AOC: More please. You’re just guaranteeing you can never ever be elected president. Keep up the retardation please

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (i5Vkf)

245 >>Best speech ever.

There's a comedian named Shane Gillis who does a very funny take on that speech including a fantastic impression of Trump. I was crying I was laughing so hard first time I heard it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (viF8m)

246 The tight column of fire shooting into the sky was spectacular.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (jAG+j)

247 and that I made him, as a baker would make a loaf of Ungrateful Bread.

---

Best writing on the entire internet bar none.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (pI9a0)

248 I wondered about that. What was the point? None of them spoke. Did they ask to be in the frame? Hegseth, at least, has a lot to do. Perhaps it's a campaign photo for 2028.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)
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I think it may have been a statement of unity among the most important members of President Trump's Cabinet. Both SecState and SecDef played a huge role in what just happened. VP Vance is there as a reminder that if Iran takes out President Trump, President Vance will show no mercy.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (IBQGV)

249 The problem with taking out Fordow is it’s under a mountain and a mountain can absorb a shit ton of energy.

If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.


We will certainly have to wait for the BDAs. Regardless, the mullahs now know we're serious.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Riz8t)

250 Oh noes! Not the em peach mints!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (aOqEy)

Nooooo! You'll bring back the Maxine Waters' Hair poster!

Posted by: pookysgirl has a long memory at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Wt5PA)

251 I wondered about that. What was the point? None of them spoke. Did they ask to be in the frame? Hegseth, at least, has a lot to do. Perhaps it's a campaign photo for 2028.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)


--

Probably just trying to show a united team behind him and this decision.

There's no I in 'Team Trump'.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (6ydKt)

252 Yeah...that AUMF against terrorism is still in effect. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Don't want the president to have the authority to strike at terror targets anymore? Repeal the AUMF.

Until then, these strikes are perfectly legal and constitutional.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (Plbvm)

253 @230

>> He's probably hate-fvcking a gallon of Jerry Garcia.

Not going to lie, they may be godless commies, but Cherry Garcia and NY Super Fudge Chunk are the two best ice creams in the history of ice creams.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (XV/Pl)

254 On the bright side, Bluesky will be littered with Iranian flag avatars tomorrow.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (E0p3T)


And pederasty.

But mostly Iranian flag avatars.

And pederasty.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (jGGMD)

255 Trump sounded shaky. Obviously he isn't a Churchillian orator.

Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)

256 Barky OShithead is blubbering into his Appletini tonight.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (dDmld)

257 Come on Democrats. You can say it:

"We Stand With Iran"

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (E0p3T)

258 If we are lucky the Iranian flags will be porking each other

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (b7rtK)

259 241 Gabe Malor stopped sucking cock to post that. Miracles never cease.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:10 PM (dR6yv)

Objection assumes facts not in evidence

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (E0p3T)

----

honestly, he can probably suck 2 cocks and post at the same time

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (pI9a0)

260 200 Is this a bad time to bring up Obama's (and Biden's) Iran deal that gave Iran billions of dollars and also provided cover for them to make a fucking bomb.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (pI9a0)

Sadly, it was not just Democrat Prezzys who let Iran get away with shit...

I'm still mad at Reagan for pulling us out of Lebanon and allowing our Marines to die unavenged.

That the folks who were supposed to relieve us on station in Beirut... after that... were busy invading Grenada instead of relieving us? I'll never forgive.

They came back to Parades and speeches... we snuck into port on a cold rainy Norfolk VA day with almost no acknowledgement.

Note... to add insult to injury? the Clint Eastwood Movie? about Grenada? shows them Launching from LPH-2 the Iwo Jima... the very fucking ship and crew they EXTENDED in Beirut, after losing their Marines... so others could attack Grenada.

Yeah... I'll admit... got a bit of a chip on my shoulder about THAT piece of history.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (mP0Kj)

261 Juneteenth is hereby renamed Iran Got Uppity Eve Eve

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (yjTHn)

262 220 It was quite peaceful as the bombs fell and the missiles cruised. Then it wasn't. Then it was
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (IG2sK)

Overall, it was a mostly peaceful dropping of multiple 30,000 bunker busting bombs onto hostile nuclear sites...

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (jvJvP)

263 I saw the point of the VP, SoS and Def Sec right away, they all are one mind on this

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (+qU29)

264 Trump it seemed to me almost choked up when he thanked God. I think Butler really changed the man

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (i5Vkf)

265 Trump sounded shaky. Obviously he isn't a Churchillian orator.

Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)

He probably downed 12,000 diet cokes today.

Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (14URa)

266 I hope the Dims, Carlson et all are in full stroke rage as I don't care. This needed to be done for a long time, and I am basically a pacifist unless someone messes with me or mine.

I thought of something else...if President Trump had given these barbarians and moo-lahs more time, they would have had a conference, then committees, endless and futile meetings with the Europeans getting involved for pretend peace accords. I read something the other day that the supreme leader, whom I hope is charred at this point, or a moo-lah, had asked to meet with the EU. That would have opened up another can of worm holes, then kick the can.

I thank each and every one of you who served. I remember the bombing of the Marines. I blame Jimmy Carter, then all the rest, and especially Obumba and Bident for pallets of cash.

God be with our military and this country going forward. It was the right thing to do, and I doubt President Trump did this without a lot of thought and prayer.

119 90 The reason I joined the military in 80 was because of Iran. It’s about time. It’s a new world without a constant shit stirrer in the ME.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Aoykm)

Thank you all.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (6PCLE)

267 I wondered about that. What was the point? None of them spoke. Did they ask to be in the frame? Hegseth, at least, has a lot to do. Perhaps it's a campaign photo for 2028.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (2myyY)
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I think it may have been a statement of unity among the most important members of President Trump's Cabinet. Both SecState and SecDef played a huge role in what just happened. VP Vance is there as a reminder that if Iran takes out President Trump, President Vance will show no mercy.


It was a bit jolting to see 4 white men, no DEI hires, just people doing their job, almost as if that was the important thing, and not their color or genitalia.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (Riz8t)

268
Not going to lie, they may be godless commies, but Cherry Garcia and NY Super Fudge Chunk are the two best ice creams in the history of ice creams.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (XV/Pl)

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I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (QnmlO)

269 I always thought Malor laid it on a bit thick. I mean, we all knew. He didn't have to throw confetti about, wear a sequined mauve thong, feather boa, and tiara with sparklers in it.

It was perfectly obvi he was a Methodist.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (/0VpY)

270 ABC News is insufferable.

So insipid.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (8sv0v)

271 Might as well go ahead and drop a few of these on the Ayatollah's head now.

We've dipped our toes, is the water warm enough?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (6ydKt)

272 "for 40 years, Iran has been saying, ‘Death to America, Death to Israel.’ They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs with roadside bombs — that was their specialty."

"Also, President Bush allowed it to happen."

Posted by: President Donald J Trump at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (ACpVb)

273 and that I made him, as a baker would make a loaf of Ungrateful Bread.

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Best writing on the entire internet bar none.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (pI9a0)


I have strong memories of reading that in the University of Missouri library computer lab and crying with the effort not to burst out laughing in front of everyone.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (jGGMD)

274 Some democrat judge is drafting an injunction against continuation of these actions as we speak.
They only have one play book.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (AThW+)

275 As I recall there's a reason that Gabe Malor talks like a fag. Trying to remember what it is....

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (IG2sK)

276 "I want to thank our Beautiful military- really fantastic people, with their amazing luxurious bombers that bomb so well- nobody in the world bombs like us- it's really something, when you think about it..."

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (AOsQT)

277 Juneteenth is hereby renamed Iran Got Uppity Eve Eve
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (yjTHn)
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Can't wait to get me a t-shirt next year!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:14 PM (IBQGV)

278 Expecting Israel to step up the pressure.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (DNJiU)

279 249 The problem with taking out Fordow is it’s under a mountain and a mountain can absorb a shit ton of energy.

If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.

We will certainly have to wait for the BDAs. Regardless, the mullahs now know we're serious.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Riz8t)

Air vents!!!!

Posted by: Mav at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)

280 Mooch probably bitching she has to pay for her supper tonight

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (+qU29)

281
There's a comedian named Shane Gillis who does a very funny take on that speech including a fantastic impression of Trump. I was crying I was laughing so hard first time I heard it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM

I've seen him in something, not sure what but OMG that's funny, I just watched it and his impression is spot on.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (77W69)

282 MSNBC headline: “Trump just said the U.S. bombed Iran. Yes, you should be worried.

What a bunch of women.

Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (wGun1)

283 I've been voxplaining that jihadists are the next ones up to the top of the progressive intersection stack, taking over for even the highly decorated but soon to be passe illegals - who only recently replaced trannies (who?).

Is it really going to come this quickly? I think it may.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (E0p3T)

284 252 Yeah...that AUMF against terrorism is still in effect. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Don't want the president to have the authority to strike at terror targets anymore? Repeal the AUMF.

Until then, these strikes are perfectly legal and constitutional.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (Plbvm)


I hope all House Democrat candidates in 2026 campaign on impeaching PDT47 for bombing Iranian nuke facilities.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (aBgBM)

285 Jake Tapper is questioning why US Trump had to bomb Iran right now because negotiations were on going and that US Trump acted hastily by ignoring the advice of his DNI director, Tulsi Gabbard. Anderson "Gloria" Cooper maintained a constants disturb by events gravitas face the whole time.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (NXz8h)

286 The Gaylord residence may need a new chef tomorrow.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (b7rtK)

287 264 Trump it seemed to me almost choked up when he thanked God. I think Butler really changed the man

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (i5Vkf)

Well if he has gotten religion, this would be a good time to pray and thank God.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (6ydKt)

288 I hope they got good data on what happens when you drop a shit ton of MOPs on the same spot.

I guess PDT really DID do it for shits and giggles.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (8sv0v)

289 The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran


Perhaps they should hold off until a disaster happens, well, unless they are talking about their election chances.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (jc0TO)

290 @268

>> I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.

I understand, but ice cream is a weakness of mine and unfortunately they make the best.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (XV/Pl)

291 Pours 12 yr old Redbreast: a toast to Pres Trump and the US military.

Posted by: Cosda at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (NAQf7)

292 Barky OShithead is blubbering into his Appletini tonight.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (dDmld)


I'll give you something to blubber about, big boy.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (jGGMD)

293 It was quite peaceful as the bombs fell and the missiles cruised. Then it wasn't. Then it was
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:09 PM (IG2sK)

I'm stealing that...

"First there was a mountain..."

Posted by: Donovan at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (i0F8b)

294 Gabe supporting the country that would blindfold him and throw him off a tall building.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (rvwwT)

295 Air vents!!!!
Posted by: Mav at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
__________________________

Dude!!!! Shhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Luke Skywalker at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (dIske)

296 I humbly suggest we strap the following people to the GBU-57s:

Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (b7rtK)

297
I hope all House Democrat candidates in 2026 campaign on impeaching PDT47 for bombing Iranian nuke facilities.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (aBgBM)

_________

Let's don't be beastly to the Muzzies...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (QnmlO)

298 Hope the mugshot was worth it!

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)

299 Trump sounded shaky. Obviously he isn't a Churchillian orator.
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)

So. The. Fuck. What?! he spoke. he got the point across. The man probably has not had a full night's sleep in quite a while.

Why must he be some kind of glib, smooth Toastmasters speaker, with plenty of lip and tongue action?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

300 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (dDmld)


That made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: Ann at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (4neFu)

301 They could start digging them out.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (tuLbh)

302 Mullahs playing the Ole Monte Python Black Knight at the bridge routine again... I't just a scratch hopping around with no arms on one leg...

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (gAN4h)

303 Remember how funny it was to call him a "felon"? Ho ho hoooooo....

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)

304
I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (QnmlO)

Every Ice cream company I really like are godless commies. McConnell's ice cream is my favorite but I saw they made a special pride flavor one year and oops, lost a customer.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (77W69)

305 The late, great, Jim Sunk New Dawn had an amusing tale about Gabe Malor. Wish I could remember it. A trip to the gun range caused Gabe's knickers to ball up is the condensed version.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (PGK1w)

306 Why must he be some kind of glib, smooth Toastmasters speaker, with plenty of lip and tongue action?

And a wire rack.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (DIweC)

307 While spectacular, I'm not sure those videos are of this strike. Different type of bomb. Different type of target. We did drop those in Tora Bora trying to get Bin Laden, and 10 years later he was still kicking it in Pakistan. It ain't so simple, is all I'm saying.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (MZ+PY)

308 Jake Tapper is questioning why US Trump had to bomb Iran right now because negotiations were on going

Jake Tapper would call for negotiations if his mother was on fire.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (Riz8t)

309 CNN's Fareed Zakaria is disturbed by US Trump's dark and dangerous speech and caviler "my way or the highway attitude". Plus US Trump is not only attacking a foreign nation with permission but the US Constitution itself.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (NXz8h)

310 I humbly suggest we strap the following people to the GBU-57s:

Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma

We need a bigger list.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (dR6yv)

311 Mullahs playing the Ole Monte Python Black Knight at the bridge routine again... I't just a scratch hopping around with no arms on one leg...
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (gAN4h)
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"All right. We'll call it a draw." -- The Black Knight

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (IBQGV)

312
Every Ice cream company I really like are godless commies.

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Lady, you need some Blue Bell, stat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (QnmlO)

313 268 - H7, *fistbump* *high five*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (alnxS)

314 If the power is out to all these centrifuges Iran is using to make nuclear weapons grade fissile material...

It won't matter if they dig out the entrances because all the equipment will be radioactive junk. Which means Iran has to start again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (b7rtK)

315 299 Trump sounded shaky. Obviously he isn't a Churchillian orator.
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (r2ymA)

So. The. Fuck. What?! he spoke. he got the point across. The man probably has not had a full night's sleep in quite a while.

Why must he be some kind of glib, smooth Toastmasters speaker, with plenty of lip and tongue action?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

I WANT my Prezzy to be a bit hesitant... and humble, when ordering men in to Combat...

It is actually something we've been missing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)

316 The late, great, Jim Sunk New Dawn had an amusing tale about Gabe Malor. Wish I could remember it. A trip to the gun range caused Gabe's knickers to ball up is the condensed version.

I know that was true of chemjeff. Don't know if JSND ever took Gabe to the range.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (lUFok)

317 And the Dems are already talking about impeachment...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (VE6XX)

318 249 The problem with taking out Fordow is it’s under a mountain and a mountain can absorb a shit ton of energy.

If Fordow is to be taken out it’s going to have to be taken out on the ground.

We will certainly have to wait for the BDAs. Regardless, the mullahs now know we're serious.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:11 PM (Riz8t)

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Send in the Tesla bots!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (36PRH)

319 ONT is late

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (uqyLy)

320 The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult. They literally want their 33rd Imam or whatever the f crazy religious wacko sht to go down and from what I understand, death and destruction is how it happens.

They probably think its on like Donkey Kong now.

But I will sleep easier tonight knowing that the crazy death cult guys can't make a nuclear weapon. As every sane person should tonight.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (gISzv)

321 Jake Tapper is a taint tickling sipper of the penis.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (aOqEy)

322 Trumps also pushing 80, at some point the effects of being 80 are going to pop up from time to time.

Greatest President of my lifetime.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (XV/Pl)

323 310 I humbly suggest we strap the following people to the GBU-57s:

Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma

We need a bigger list.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (dR6yv)


Yes. A GBU-57 is big enough we can strap a lot of cretins to each.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (aBgBM)

324 Is anyone talking Christiane Amanpour off the ledge? Does anyone care?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (IG2sK)

325 314 If the power is out to all these centrifuges Iran is using to make nuclear weapons grade fissile material...

It won't matter if they dig out the entrances because all the equipment will be radioactive junk. Which means Iran has to start again.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (b7rtK)

Yup, the seismic shock... if the centrifuges were turning... turned them into junk...

Radioactive junk
.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (mP0Kj)

326 Not going to lie, they may be godless commies, but Cherry Garcia and NY Super Fudge Chunk are the two best ice creams in the history of ice creams.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (XV/Pl)

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I don't care if the Elixir of Life is an ingredient, I don't eat godless commie ice cream.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:13 PM (QnmlO)
***

I'll admit to missing Karamel Sutra. But Tillamook is sufficient.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:20 PM (W/lyH)

327 269 I always thought Malor laid it on a bit thick. I mean, we all knew. He didn't have to throw confetti about, wear a sequined mauve thong, feather boa, and tiara with sparklers in it.

It was perfectly obvi he was a Methodist.
Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons



LoL!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (PGK1w)

328
30 Gabe sure has come a long way hasn't he.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (36PRH)

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I think he hasn't changed at all, just doesn't lie as much as he used to.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (HLgI3)

329 While spectacular, I'm not sure those videos are of this strike. Different type of bomb. Different type of target. We did drop those in Tora Bora trying to get Bin Laden, and 10 years later he was still kicking it in Pakistan. It ain't so simple, is all I'm saying.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (MZ+PY)


That's what it was labeled as.

But yeah, after I looked at the second video closer, it did look like ships in the foreground, was difficlut to see.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (6ydKt)

330
The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult.

_________

I don't care if they're a death cult, I care what they're a death cult with.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (QnmlO)

331 323 Barack

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (FZn/N)

332 You mean Gabe isn't Amish?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (b7rtK)

333 Gabe who??

Pastblast: Gabe accepts CPAC Blog Award to AoS

https://youtu.be/kJJotGlHaHI

Posted by: mindful webworker - classic moments at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (63lGh)

334 I fear the Ayatollah will be angered.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (jc0TO)

335 ONT is late
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know
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I'll hit the go button when things slow down a bit. Pretty big news in play.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (41CYW)

336 Is anyone talking Christiane Amanpour off the ledge? Does anyone care?
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I care. I hope she jumps.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (NXz8h)

337 316 The late, great, Jim Sunk New Dawn had an amusing tale about Gabe Malor. Wish I could remember it. A trip to the gun range caused Gabe's knickers to ball up is the condensed version.

I know that was true of chemjeff. Don't know if JSND ever took Gabe to the range.
Posted by: Blanco Basura



Oops. Yea, it was chemjeff.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (PGK1w)

338 so I got back from wherever-gay-place-I-was-at and... we're bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran? shit.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (gKWVE)

339 It won't matter if they dig out the entrances because all the equipment will be radioactive junk. Which means Iran has to start again.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (b7rtK)

Thank you for this.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (AThW+)

340 213 AOC:

The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
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It must take work to be this stupid.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (pZEOD)

341 FFS. How did Malor ever post here????

Posted by: Prolix at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (I3xg0)

342 I seem to recall quite a few Presidents bombed countries then went to Congress and explained. None were impeached for it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)

343 If you are going to start eliminating products based on the politics of the people who make them say goodbye to the internet.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (viF8m)

344 >>And the Dems are already talking about impeachment...

They're just mad that PDJT didn't let them in on the operation (so that they could warn our enemies)

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (rdVOm)

345 I fear the Ayatollah will be angered.

I dunno. Maybe they just won't tell him. Worked with Joe.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (/y8xj)

346 Gabe was never conservative, and he really only cared about one thing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (XV/Pl)

347 If you are going to start eliminating products based on the politics of the people who make them say goodbye to the internet.

Tempting.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (lUFok)

348 The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.

I am pretty sure he will inform Congress of what's happened within the next 45 days.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (jc0TO)

349 >>>341 FFS. How did Malor ever post here????

i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)

350 So when a B2 drops a 30,000 lb bomb, it must’ve take a dramatic lurch upwards right? I’d think so… anyone here know for sure?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)

351 Clutch your pearls.

Some bitch on the CBC is talking about the suffering of the Iranians. I have one more beer left. I'll try to drag out tears then.

Wow, this bitch is something.

Can Ottawa, Toronto and a few other places be next?

Bitch on CBC "Iranians. Where is God for us right now?" Seriously. She actually said that.

Just to answer. Allah is busy building redhead virgins. Takes him a while and they are in demand...now.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (jvJvP)

352 Time to wander, ciao.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (b7rtK)

353 no tent should be THAT big

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)

354 346 Gabe was never conservative, and he really only cared about one thing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (XV/Pl)

Penis. He means penis.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (aOqEy)

355 317 Democrat Party Delenda est

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (FZn/N)

356 >>And the Dems are already talking about impeachment...


They never stopped.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (PGK1w)

357 Fock Snooze says 6 MOPs hit Fodrow

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (AOsQT)

358 The Arab Street will be angered.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (i0F8b)

359 How is this going to help balance the budget?

Posted by: Democrats at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KtOUo)

360 338 so I got back from wherever-gay-place-I-was-at and... we're bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran? shit.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (gKWVE)

LMAO

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (36PRH)

361 Dear Tucker,

You can unbunch your panties now.

Love, Franpsycho

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (RIvkX)

362 353 no tent should be THAT big
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO

Lulz

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (aOqEy)

363 Finally watched Trump's speech. Hegseth didn't wear his customary blue suit.... because Trump was wearing one.

Posted by: pookysgirl notices the important things at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (Wt5PA)

364 346 Gabe was never conservative, and he really only cared about one thing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (XV/Pl)


"Prometheus"?

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (gKWVE)

365 What of the price of eggs?

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (jc0TO)

366 im watching Nicole Wallace babble. 2Way is showing video from different networks.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (KRtlO)

367 I WANT my Prezzy to be a bit hesitant... and humble, when ordering men in to Combat...

It is actually something we've been missing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)

Nonono, the President is supposed to be dreamy, reciting dialogue like an Aaron Sorkin character. Then when his juvenile foreign policy ends up getting Americans killed, we'll arrest a filmmaker or bomb an innocent family in retaliation and everyone will cheer!

Posted by: The MSM at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (aqZN1)

368 >>> 343 If you are going to start eliminating products based on the politics of the people who make them say goodbye to the internet.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (viF8m)

Dude.

Al Gore did NOT invent the internet.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (ULPxl)

369 343 If you are going to start eliminating products based on the politics of the people who make them say goodbye to the internet.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (viF8m)

I understand what you're saying but I'm still gonna boycott Gillette, Disney, and Bud Light.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (6ydKt)

370 330
The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult.

_________

I don't care if they're a death cult, I care what they're a death cult with.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (QnmlO)

The American Declaration of Independence was based on the idea that a People had both a Right and a DUTY, to change their government if it was not doing what they wanted.

Making the Iranian citizen NOT be held accountable for their Government... destroys the very base of that premise.

Sorry Iranians... you voted for these ass hats... and have put up with them for year... Reap? Sow.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (mP0Kj)

371
And the Dems are already talking about impeachment...

_________

Go ahead. Rant, rave, file article after article of impeachment. Show America you're on the short end of a 95-5% issue.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:25 PM (QnmlO)

372 no tent should be THAT big
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)

Are you kidding? I've made bigger muu muu tents for Hillary!

Posted by: Omar The Muu Muu Maker at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (0eaVi)

373 I humbly suggest we strap the following people to the GBU-57s:

Jake Tapper
Gabe Malor
Ilham Nur
Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma

We need a bigger list.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (dR6yv)

Just tie them up and put them into the B-52 bomb bays. Drop them into Iran to generally screw things up, because that's what their best at.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (S/Y4j)

374 Hegseth didn't wear his customary blue suit.... because Trump was wearing one.

They call each other like women going to a dinner party?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (/y8xj)

375 Read my new book, “How I Supported the Decision to Bomb Iran, A Profile in Courage”.

Posted by: Jakes Tapper at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (HEStL)

376 AOC goes from escorting a pro Hamas punk out of lockup to calling for impeachment. She's thinking about a 2028 run, but her stupidity will trip her up before then

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (IG2sK)

377 Regarding Iran, fwiw, I think it is clear that the Israelis have totally penetrated the Iranian government plus their 2018 theft of a warehouse load of Iran nuke info probably includes plans for these sites bombed today.

BDA is always difficult unless you have good Humint like the Israelis do so we shall have to wait and see what happens next.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (ctrM5)

378 Iran's nuke program is gonna need a paint job and a shitload of screen doors

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (AOsQT)

379 CNN's Barak Ravid is having a bowel movement in his pants worrying that Iran is now going to retaliate.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (NXz8h)

380 FFS. How did Malor ever post here????
Posted by: Prolix

he's Pre-law

Posted by: My Delta name is Miklos at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (UYy+W)

381 I WANT my Prezzy to be a bit hesitant... and humble, when ordering men in to Combat...

It is actually something we've been missing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)

Best president in my lifetime. Prayers for him and all every night. He did not take this lightly in a fit of anger.

Or revenge of his father like GWB, whom I used to like and can't stand now.

Or chicken out like HWB and not follow through.

Or give Iran pallets of cash like Obamgo and Bidet to further their cause and probably receive money for it.

None of the in-laws better mess with me tomorrow!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (6PCLE)

382 349 >>>341 FFS. How did Malor ever post here????

i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)

TBF, he seemed reasonable. Not loopy. Right up 'til he got loopy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (0aYVJ)

383 i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.


lol well you meant well Ace!

anyhoo... so yay! no more sciencey playtime for the mullahs hmm?

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (Pv3Rg)

384 Instead of the YMCA song they should make the Trump rally song "We Will Rock You".

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (yTvNw)

385 Ben and Jerry’s is owned by Unilever. The hippies sold out to the evil conglomerate, took the money, and just professionally protested and grift off their cult now. They’ve actually sued Unilever for not being anti semite enough for their taste.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (PvNui)

386 *busy at the bar, making many pitchers of Margaritas, regular AND spicy*

*getting ready for Club ONT!*

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (rdVOm)

387 350 So when a B2 drops a 30,000 lb bomb, it must’ve take a dramatic lurch upwards right? I’d think so… anyone here know for sure?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)

I'd wager its programmed into the flight computers... so its not that bad for the crew.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (mP0Kj)

388 308 Jake Tapper is questioning why US Trump had to bomb Iran right now because negotiations were on going

Jake Tapper would call for negotiations if his mother was on fire.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:18 PM (Riz8t

Or mid penetration....

Trying to figure out the root causes....

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (jvJvP)

389 > So when a B2 drops a 30,000 lb bomb, it must’ve take a dramatic lurch upwards right? I’d think so… anyone here know for sure?
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Yea... there are videos of some tests done with the GBU-57 and the B-2 sort of lurches upward. Not significantly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (Q4IgG)

390 Best president in my lifetime. Prayers for him and all every night. He did not take this lightly in a fit of anger.


everything you said Christy - but this is so key

he really did think it over, I believe.

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (Pv3Rg)

391 @380

>> he's Pre-law

I thought he was Pre-Med?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (XV/Pl)

392 >BDA is always difficult unless you have good Humint like the Israelis do so we shall have to wait and see what happens next.
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I bet we have satellites and drones and stuff having a look see right now

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (AOsQT)

393 The big gay tent.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (aOqEy)

394 342 I seem to recall quite a few Presidents bombed countries then went to Congress and explained. None were impeached for it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)


Was FDR impeached for ordering our P-40s to shoot down German Stukas over Pearl Harbor on December 7th, without a Congressional Declaration of War?

Posted by: Senator Blutarsky at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (aBgBM)

395 News Flash: Bill Clinton has been hit with 3 ashtrays and 4 wine bottles tonight.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (NXz8h)

396 303 Remember how funny it was to call him a "felon"? Ho ho hoooooo....

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)

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Every time some idiot lefty says "Trump is a felon", I remind them that Trump was acquitted by a jury of 77 million

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (pI9a0)

397 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells

Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)

398 Hoping today's Novamomee and PNWminimomee were huge successes b"h

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (RIvkX)

399 379 CNN's Barak Ravid is having a bowel movement in his pants worrying that Iran is now going to retaliate.

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They've already whined to the UN once, and now they're considering writing a very stern letter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (dDmld)

400 I'd like to raise a pertinent question. Are we going to do Stonehenge tomorrow?

Posted by: Derek Smalls at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (GM3CZ)

401 396. Shoot em dead

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (FZn/N)

402 *poppers and buffalo wings in the oven now*

*cooler is all stocked up...*

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)

403 > "There's a comedian named Shane Gillis who does a very funny take on that speech including a fantastic impression of Trump. I was crying I was laughing so hard first time I heard it."--Posted by: JackStraw

Had not seen that until I watched the clip the other day. It's uncanny the way he can slip in and out of his dead-on "Trump voice."

Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (/I9MF)

404 Iran's nuke program is gonna need a paint job and a shitload of screen doors
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (AOsQT)

I'll repaint that facility for only $9999. - Earl Scheib

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (S/Y4j)

405 It would be a shame if a single American died in a war conducted on behalf of a foreign country.

Posted by: lol at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (hKJwu)

406 >>Dude.

>> Gore did NOT invent the internet.

I'm well aware. I was very involved in the early days of the internet and Gore was nowhere to be found.

But there sure were a lot of California liberals.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (viF8m)

407 > I'd wager its programmed into the flight computers... so its not that bad for the crew.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (mP0Kj)

Yeah, for sure. It's not like that's some kind of rare scenario that the engineers would overlook.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (qpyNK)

408 397 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells

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You mean the ones Potatohead invited into our country, CBS?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (dDmld)

409
CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)

_________

CBS will never ask the obvious question, "How and when did they get here?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (QnmlO)

410 I read today somewhere the FBI is researching/investigating if any Terrorist cells are in the US.... UM there's been fucking training camps in multiple states guys since the aughts'!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (gAN4h)

411 None of the in-laws better mess with me tomorrow!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (6PCLE)

/Fistbump...

Yeah, there are very good reason me and my Son do not even MENTION politics anymore.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (mP0Kj)

412 so I got back from wherever-gay-place-I-was-at and... we're bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran? shit.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 10:22 PM (gKWVE)

You summoned me during Pride Month?!?

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (aqZN1)

413 350 So when a B2 drops a 30,000 lb bomb, it must’ve take a dramatic lurch upwards right? I’d think so… anyone here know for sure?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)

You know how good it feels when you take a big dump?

It's kinda like that, only better.

Posted by: B-2 Pilot at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (i0F8b)

414 389 > So when a B2 drops a 30,000 lb bomb, it must’ve take a dramatic lurch upwards right? I’d think so… anyone here know for sure?
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Yea... there are videos of some tests done with the GBU-57 and the B-2 sort of lurches upward. Not significantly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (Q4IgG)

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The bomb doesn't weight 30,000lbs. It has the explosive potential of 30,000 lbs of TNT

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (pI9a0)

415 So...it's on now?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (xcxpd)

416 HEY, 3Ds----

YA FORGOT TO UNLOCK THE DOOR!!!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (rdVOm)

417 399 Bomb the UN and let LeFraks turn the land into something nice.

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (FZn/N)

418 387 350 So when a B2 drops a 30,000 lb bomb, it must’ve take a dramatic lurch upwards right? I’d think so… anyone here know for sure?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (6RwsA)

I'd wager its programmed into the flight computers... so its not that bad for the crew.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (mP0Kj)
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Basically the Giant Drop ride at Six Flags. *Weeeeee!*

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (36PRH)

419 30 Gabe sure has come a long way hasn't he.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO


He's gone full pussy. Never go full pussy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (0Htd1)

420 i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace

Not checking the Urban Dictionary for "big tent".

Nope

Posted by: Prudential Miklos at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (UYy+W)

421 382 349 >>>341 FFS. How did Malor ever post here????

i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO

I'm taking a screenshot of ace posting on a Saturday at 10:23.

But on a good day.

But still.

I'm debating about the "Alien" movie now. Too keyed up.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (jvJvP)

422 I'd like to raise a pertinent question. Are we going to do Stonehenge tomorrow?

Posted by: Derek Smalls at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (GM3CZ)

We'll let the muslims in the UK handle that one once they go full Taliban.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (6ydKt)

423
ONT

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (3ek7K)

424 I seem to recall quite a few Presidents bombed countries then went to Congress and explained. None were impeached for it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)

Presidents have been taking military action without prior Congressional approval since the Quasi War with France in the 1790s.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (GM3CZ)

425 >>> 397 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)

Iranian or CCP or klantifa?

I suppose my main Concern is what the Derp State would like to "accidentally" miss. OrangeManBad has been doing a lot of housecleaning but I'm sure there's plenty of asshoes still embedded.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (ULPxl)

426 Mullahs : Allah why have you forsaken us in our time of need?
Allah: because you suck

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (IG2sK)

427 Suddenly 'Just bake the damned cake' doesn't work for Gabe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (XeU6L)

428 Any knowledge or speculation re spread of nuclear fallout if the enriched uranium got blowed up real good? How far might it spread? Down-wind areas going to be uninhabitable?

Posted by: Not Billy Sol Hurok at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (fI8lb)

429 *getting ready for Club ONT!*
Posted by: JQ

Lotta drinks gonna be on the house tonight!
(prepares comfy spot to pass out in)

Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (TfUTr)

430 They call each other like women going to a dinner party?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:26 PM (/y8xj)

It was probably prearranged all the way back in January. "Listen, Pete, I love the blue suit thing you've got going on, it's great, but when you stand behind me when I'm at the podium, I need you to wear a BLACK suit. Okay? BLACK. Black like your ex-sister-in-law's heart. Terrible woman..."

Posted by: pookysgirl knows how this works at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (Wt5PA)

431 Trump should have done his retard guy character all during the 2024 Presidential debate. heh heh guy is a knucklehead LMAO

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (gAN4h)

432 @414 WRONG!

Mass
c. 30,000 lb (13,600 kg)[3]

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (36PRH)

433 I can't confirm that this is Fordow (Clay Travis thinks it is) but its definitely something. Jesus Christ Almighty - what an explosion:
https://x.com/renatogbbr/status/1936592309681828108

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (thSzh)

434 Lady, you need some Blue Bell, stat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:19 PM (QnmlO)
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Reporting for duty 🫡

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (79pEw)

435 i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)

I'm sure you made the best decision you could, based on the information at hand.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (AThW+)

436 YA FORGOT TO UNLOCK THE DOOR!!!
Posted by: JQ

*spare keys are under the flower pot*

Posted by: Anonymyklos at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (UYy+W)

437 415 So...it's on now?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (xcxpd)

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OH IT'S ON!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (pI9a0)

438 It would be a shame if a single American died in a war conducted on behalf of a foreign country.
====

Like, Korea?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (RIvkX)

439 Congrats, you're back in your natural home, on the side of Nikki Haley, Dan Crenshaw, and Lindsay Graham. Check Twitter. This crew is ecstatic today, just like this Smart Military Blog.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (CDb2z)

440 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos
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A thing to be concerned about, but it's just the way things are, and must be dealt with.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (XeU6L)

441 Malor had total contempt for most of the commenters here, and the contempt was returned in kind by many of the commenters.

That kind of wide open forum still exists here today. And it's the last of its kind I'm aware of.

Ace takes a lot of shit and gives back as good.

Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (r2ymA)

442 The bomb doesn't weight 30,000lbs. It has the explosive potential of 30,000 lbs of TNT
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (pI9a0)
_______________________

A MOAB weights about 10 tons. A B2 can handle in excess of about 40,000 lbs of payload (or just over 20 tons).

Posted by: Luke Skywalker at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (dIske)

443 Strange-but-true fact:

There are no Walmarts in Iran.


Only Targets.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (qpyNK)

444 Reporting for duty 🫡
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (79pEw)

Hi lady!

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (AThW+)

445 406 >>Dude.

>> Gore did NOT invent the internet.

I'm well aware. I was very involved in the early days of the internet and Gore was nowhere to be found.

But there sure were a lot of California liberals.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (viF8m)

Its actually funny... but... I was part of IEEE, the governing body of Internet protocols for years...

You could find my real name on multiple Request for Comment (RFC) submissions... as I was working for an IT security software firm... dealing with how to discover rogue devices on your network...

So when some young asshole says, if you don't like the internet go invent yer own? Shit child... I helped create THIS ONE.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (mP0Kj)

446 Any knowledge or speculation re spread of nuclear fallout if the enriched uranium got blowed up real good? How far might it spread? Down-wind areas going to be uninhabitable?

Posted by: Not Billy Sol Hurok at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (fI8lb)

It's buried under a literal mountain of rubble.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (i0F8b)

447 The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
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Translation: BUT MUH MULLAHS

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (E0p3T)

448 Reporting for duty 🫡
Posted by: bluebell

Straighten up people

Dis lady don't play

Posted by: Shiv-free Miklos at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (UYy+W)

449 438 It would be a shame if a single American died in a war conducted on behalf of a foreign country.
====

Like, Korea?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (RIvkX)
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Ukraine?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (36PRH)

450 i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO

Fucking Lamont.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (xzkgE)

451 427 Suddenly 'Just bake the damned cake' doesn't work for Gabe.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (XeU6L)

That's because
someone left the cake out in the rain....
and it took so long to bake it
I don't think I can take it
I may never have that recipe again

OH NO'SSSSS

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (gAN4h)

452 The most consequential turn of the head in world history.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (E0p3T)

453 Ace takes a lot of shit and gives back as good.
Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (r2ymA)

I take it as a sign of Respect, that Ace once threatened to Ban me... but didn't...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (mP0Kj)

454 The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers.
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Translation: BUT MUH MULLAHS

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (E0p3T)

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"The US Constitution IS a suicide pact, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (nXhai)

455
Women seeing women wearing the same thing: "Awkward!"

Men seeing men wearing the same thing: "Hey, good taste!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (QnmlO)

456 i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.

Posted by: ace

Don't ever change, dude. The free exchange of ideas and discussion is what keeps us whom we are. You provide a very bright light in the darkness and I am very grateful to you for that.

*hopes garrett doesn't get jealous easily*

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (MsrgL)

457 The GBU-57 series MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator) is a 30,000-pound (13,600 kg)-class precision-guided "bunker buster" bomb

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (AOsQT)

458 This is an odd place and way to say this but:
the world was better before the internet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (xcxpd)

459 None of the in-laws better mess with me tomorrow!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 10:27 PM (6PCLE)


To quote someone earlier: Trump doesn't start wars, he wins them.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (W/lyH)

460 Don Black,
One of the problems with eye in the sky BDA is when the site is literally buried. Humint aka spies can tell more about what the Iranian BDA assessment is.

My guess is that a bunch of af Intel types are poring over what the tech Intel is yielding though.

Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 10:35 PM (ctrM5)

461 CNN's Brett McGurk is of the opinion the US now faces Iranian missiles, militias, kidnappings and terrorism because of today's bombing.

Oh. Goes looking for stuff to make a Chocolate Blackberry Ice Cream Smoothie.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (NXz8h)

462 > "The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult. They literally want their 33rd Imam or whatever the f crazy religious wacko sht to go down and from what I understand, death and destruction is how it happens.

"They probably think its on like Donkey Kong now." --Posted by: Defenestratus

There is that worrisome aspect, yes.

Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (/I9MF)

463 The B-2 is capable of carrying 40,000 lb (18,000 kg) of ordnance.

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (AOsQT)

464 >>>341 FFS. How did Malor ever post here????

i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:23 PM (KRtlO)

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Am I the only one who read that as "Big Teat?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (nXhai)

465 I take it as a sign of Respect, that Ace once threatened to Ban me... but didn't...
Posted by: Romeo13

So he isn't perfect then.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (NXz8h)

466 The bomb doesn't weight 30,000lbs. It has the explosive potential of 30,000 lbs of TNT

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (pI9a0)

Fantastic. I'm on a smart military blog. And curious!

So how much do those bombs weigh? And if we are talking explosive potential, why didn't Israel have these if weight is less?

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)

467 443 Strange-but-true fact:

There are no Walmarts in Iran.

Only Targets.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (qpyNK)

SNORT

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Haie at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (AThW+)

468 >CNN's Brett McGurk is of the opinion the US now faces Iranian missiles, militias, kidnappings and terrorism because of today's bombing.

In other words, the same as we've been dealing with since '79.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (i0F8b)

469 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)


So I guess CBS thinks it's OK that they are here. Just have to kiss Iranian ass and play nice-nice so they won't get mean.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (W/lyH)

470 462 > "The only problem with this strategy of "make it hurt until they cry uncle!" is that ... the Iranian regime is a death cult. They literally want their 33rd Imam or whatever the f crazy religious wacko sht to go down and from what I understand, death and destruction is how it happens.

"They probably think its on like Donkey Kong now." --Posted by: Defenestratus

There is that worrisome aspect, yes.
Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (/I9MF)

The Iranian Regime is a Death Cult... but are the Iranian people?

Sorry... but you ARE responsible for your government... fix it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (mP0Kj)

471 Dis lady don't play
Posted by: Shiv-free Miklos
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Ah. I thought that I heard the slight swish-swish of a shiv being diamond honed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (XeU6L)

472 406 >>Dude.

>> Gore did NOT invent the internet.

I'm well aware. I was very involved in the early days of the internet and Gore was nowhere to be found.

But there sure were a lot of California liberals.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (viF8m)

Its actually funny... but... I was part of IEEE, the governing body of Internet protocols for years...

You could find my real name on multiple Request for Comment (RFC) submissions... as I was working for an IT security software firm... dealing with how to discover rogue devices on your network...

So when some young asshole says, if you don't like the internet go invent yer own? Shit child... I helped create THIS ONE.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (mP0Kj)
Really??? Whats up with AI and FACIAL RECOGNITION. Can I beat Facial Recognition. IS THERE A GROUP FIGHTING THIS? cAN i GET INVOLVED IN?
Askin for a friend... but really..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (gAN4h)

473 443 Strange-but-true fact:

There are no Walmarts in Iran.

Only Targets.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (qpyNK)


/Golf Clap

Oh... well played!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (mP0Kj)

474 410 I read today somewhere the FBI is researching/investigating if any Terrorist cells are in the US.... UM there's been fucking training camps in multiple states guys since the aughts'!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Captain Fantastic
=====

Call up Gates of Vienna, they have photos and maps and all kinds of information

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (DNJiU)

475 @469 "Rise and shine!!! BAM! I'm dead! What a LOSER!

Posted by: Chaz at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (36PRH)

476 There's speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.

"Precision"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)

477 Hey CBS and CNN: How the hell is Iran gonna retaliate?? They’re still busy dodging Israeli bombs and their command and control is decimated. Oh and it’s been reported that Hezbollah declined to join in because they didn’t want the IDF aimed at them

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (6RwsA)

478 I can't confirm that this is Fordow (Clay Travis thinks it is) but its definitely something. Jesus Christ Almighty - what an explosion:

https://x.com/renatogbbr/status/1936592309681828108

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (thSzh)

Gonna have to ask Pooky on that one in the morning, he's in bed already and *hopefully* sleeping.

As always, prayers up for Pooky's old unit, as this stuff is their "thing."

Posted by: pookysgirl at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (Wt5PA)

479 >> Gore did NOT invent the internet.
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Fun fact: the internet is a complex network of 'smart tubes'

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (AOsQT)

480 Really??? Whats up with AI and FACIAL RECOGNITION. Can I beat Facial Recognition. IS THERE A GROUP FIGHTING THIS? cAN i GET INVOLVED IN?
Askin for a friend... but really..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (gAN4h)

bird has flown... sorry... we can't even get actual secure from the Government Email... we tried with the Dark Mail project.

Only way it to kill your cameras.... sometimes, physically with tape (as I have).

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (mP0Kj)

481
So I guess CBS thinks it's OK that they are here. Just have to kiss Iranian ass and play nice-nice so they won't get mean.
Posted by: Diogenes
-----

Look, appeasement is the best diplomatic approach.

Posted by: Barky at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (XeU6L)

482 Too bad the Big Tent as sold (not as considered) was always a lie.

Conservatives were lectured for decades we had to accept certain mainstream ideas like open borders, killing babies and becoming communists, to "win" with voters.

Then when it turned out it was OUR ideas that were "winning" with voters, the Big Tent lecturers mysteriously folded up their tent and went home.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (E0p3T)

483 469 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)


So I guess CBS thinks it's OK that they are here. Just have to kiss Iranian ass and play nice-nice so they won't get mean.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (W/lyH)

It makes perfect sense though. They (CBS et al) didn't seem to have a problem with all the sleepers getting in.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (8hxDK)

484 The most consequential turn of the head in world history.
Posted by: ...

I wonder if we will ever learn what agency or contractor the shooter worked for.

(Just kidding! No I don't).

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (cYBz/)

485 CBS is now worried that Trump has activated all the Iranian terrorist sleeper cells
Posted by: Miklos kids you not at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (UYy+W)

More projection.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (E0p3T)

486 476 There's speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.

"Precision"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)

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So? I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.

Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (36PRH)

487 I'm a big fan of CBS - Carpet Bomb Sharia

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (E0p3T)

488 There's speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.

"Precision"

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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In the vid, I find the sudden exhaust/expulsion on the left side of the frame interesting. Access tunnel?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (XeU6L)

489 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM

Bartender, I'll have a double of what Dworkin is drinking and send him one from our table.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (gAN4h)

490 We have an ONT!

An amazing ONT.

Which I hope gets recycled. Tough day to be a cob.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)

491 Will Iran retaliate?
Yes.
Yes they will.
They may agree to negotiate but they are not defeated. They still have a vote in this deal. And as the regime assesses it's options, they will strike back if for no other reason than to demonstrate to the rest of the world that they can.
How?
More missiles in Israel.
Terror attacks in the region.
Terror attacks elsewhere in the world.
Terror attacks in the US.
Pick one. An asymmetric response of some kind is coming.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (W/lyH)

492 Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM
***
I'm just happy to see you reach 40%. Best wishes for the rest of the journey.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

493 Thanks for the thread, Ace and Morons. I need to go finish up my knitting, my mom's birthday is next week.

Posted by: pookysgirl, pulling out the big needles at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (Wt5PA)

494 i;lol be seeing you
In all the old familiar places
In that small cafe
In every lovely summer's day

in everything that's light and gay
All the goats along the way
I'll be looking at your moon
And I'll be. seeing you

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (DNJiU)

495 So? I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (36PRH)

That reminds me of a great (imo) Family Guy bit calling out that moment:
https://youtu.be/DHawudR4yRE?si=CMkbdhCy13BoiTH8

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (8hxDK)

496 The Iranian Regime is a Death Cult... but are the Iranian people?

Sorry... but you ARE responsible for your government... fix it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (mP0Kj)

----

A large portion of the Iranian populations was on the verge of revolting against the Mullahs (2010 I think?). The famous retard Obama could have supported the Iranian people with nothing but mere words, but he acted like it was some kind of election and that he would support the winners.

The regime has guns, tanks and helicopters, the people have rocks...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (pI9a0)

497 488 There's speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.

--------

They always forget to cover the thermal exhaust port.

Posted by: Adm. Akhbar at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (dDmld)

498 Tough day to be a cob.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)

You're telling me! The press been shitting themselves all night. I'm having a heck of a workout in the outhouse.

Posted by: Cob at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (0eaVi)

499 MSNBC's Nicole and Monica are concerned if US Trump bothered to consult with Tucker Carlson before bombing Iran. Their megatons of stupidity would flatten Fordow by itself. Also, it seems the hard left spells Fordow as Fordo.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (NXz8h)

500 Only way it to kill your cameras.... sometimes, physically with tape (as I have).
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (mP0Kj)

Yeah thats fugged up....
Hey now is your chance to become a billionaire!
Invent something maybe a MAGA hat that can zap all cameras.. Hey wait I just invented my own solution. Rayban has camera infused sunglasses that have facial recognition and relay the info to the wearer. every bit of personal info.. thats fucked up shite!!!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (gAN4h)

501 They will retaliate unti the mullahs and the Ayatollahs and the Red Guard bosses are dead.
Israel is working on it.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (DNJiU)

502 Congrats, you're back in your natural home, on the side of Nikki Haley, Dan Crenshaw, and Lindsay Graham. Check Twitter. This crew is ecstatic today, just like this Smart Military Blog.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (CDb2z)

Ah yes, because we occasionally find fault with those politicians, we were instead supposed to root for the "death to America" side. How could we have made this grave error? We should all make our bluesky accounts now so we can be flagellated as fascists by the mentally ill, deranged retards over there.

Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (aqZN1)

503 >>>Its actually funny... but... I was part of IEEE, the governing body of Internet protocols for years...
~~~~~

Small world. My mom worked for IEEE for years.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (3ImbR)

504 491 Will Iran retaliate?

No, but LIBs on their behalf definitely will.
LIBs not only Proudly Sponsor our Adversaries, but actively defend them as well.

They will be the FIRST into the bunkers, not because they Value their own Lives, but rather, to displace those who actually do.

LIBs. What Price their Vision?
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-JustDeserts

Remember who actually CAUSED this:

"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other potential adversaries around the world that they can change our policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.

To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY THAT

But I always promised the American people that I will be straight with you. (riteo) ... This is not in our national security interest.
-- IceKINGJoe

https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-forWARd
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-ReignOverTheRubble

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (TXfgk)

505 A federal district judge in Hawaii just ruled Trump has to rebuild Fordow and replace the damaged equipment and uranium.

Posted by: Slim Pickens at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (PzyjV)

506 We should have dropped a plane load of Liberator-45s for them

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (DNJiU)

507 MSNBC's Trita Parsi is of the opinion that the Jews tricked US Trump into signing up for an endless war with Iran. You cannot make this crap up.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (NXz8h)

508 MSNBC is questioning why US Trump signed his social media post announcing the Iranian bombings as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States.

Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (NXz8h)

509 MSNBC is questioning why US Trump signed his social media post announcing the Iranian bombings as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States.

Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (NXz8h)

--------------

Sounds Unconstitutional to me ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (nXhai)

510 I'm just happy to see you reach 40%. Best wishes for the rest of the journey.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (IQ6Gq

Thank you so much. Extra points today for the Iran bombing!!

And my living situation may be solved soon. Cost me a lot, but peace and quiet for 2 years would be sweet.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (jvJvP)

511 Going to take these moments before the new thread to get a baked potato and some string beans. mmm, bbl

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (DNJiU)

512 509 MSNBC is questioning why US Trump signed his social media post announcing the Iranian bombings as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States

Fucking AutoPen.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (jvJvP)

513 A federal district judge in Hawaii just ruled Trump has to rebuild Fordow and replace the damaged equipment and uranium.

Posted by: Slim Pickens at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (PzyjV)

I'd agree to it if the district judges are forced to do all of the labor.

Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (aqZN1)

514 507 MSNBC's Trita Parsi is of the opinion that the Jews tricked US Trump into signing up for an endless war with Iran. You cannot make this crap up.

C3po: He tricked me into taking this path... but he'll fair no better.

Burn after Reading:: Evil's Triumph Over Conscience:
Why the West Gives Yasser Arafat (and their LIB enablers) Endless Second Chances
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/recread/doidge.htm

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (NHTZ3)

515 Stateless - Hang tough

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (XeU6L)

516 >> MSNBC's Trita Parsi is of the opinion that the Jews tricked US Trump into signing up for an endless war with Iran. You cannot make this crap up.


She shares that opinion with a strong 30% of the Commenters on Right Wing You Tube.

Some retards will believe anything.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (MmNOR)

517 Evening.

Remind me. Was Gabe Malor always a giant faggot?

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (W05dk)

518 To those who said President Trump seemed "shaky" I say you are wrong. His voice broke a bit when he mentioned "God" the first of about 3 times.

I thank GOD for President Trump, VP Vance, and their cabinet. For a President who took the oath of office seriously and wants to end terrorism.

For the first time in over 40yrs we have a President who puts us first vs the Euroweenie's Club or any stupid poll.

For those who keep saying Iran did not have nukes, then were the mullah's bluffing that they did this week??? You bluff, we bomb!

Also, Mosaad had infiltrated and knows what is going on.

Tomorrow there will be screeching from Dims, people who claim to be MAGA, Europeans, Canadians, and the UK. Possibly from the Middle East. Maybe everyone, even Antartica. I don't care. It has needed to be done for over 40yrs.

I would rather poke my eyes out with a red hot knife than watch tv tomorrow. The shrieking will be deafening.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 11:19 PM (6PCLE)

519 515 Stateless - Hang tough

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM 

Thanks. I will.

Lost a lot this year. I lost all my family. Mom passed. Brother went insane and kept my living situation jacked around for 5.5 months. Once I regroup, I'll be a much better member of the Horde

I, and Mom, have been Horde worthy to my friends and neighbours. I have done stuff. The Horde would be proud. We have been wonderful but DUDE, they have been so great to me.

Soon, I'm back.

Fuck it....42%

It's been a good Day.
It's weird to have an American President that cares about America and her citizens.....says a Canadian....

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (jvJvP)

520 Interesting that all the liberals who were ready to send troops to die to enrich BlackRock in Ukraine, i mean defend Ukraine, aren't cool with this.

Almost as if the whole Ukraine canard was just about laundering money and killing white people so that they can unload more sand scum on the continent.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (LCqx1)

521 From a west coast lurker, was it at the VUE rooftop bar?

Posted by: Fatty McFattington at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (NRMef)

522 Man I am seeing a lot of twitter personalities that were ardently anti-war all week now cheering

Posted by: deepelemblues at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (z9n5F)

523 So, according to AOC, the military has 535 CinCs?

She may need to read the Constitution. She may need to be told what the Constitution is.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (MHlR3)

524 Yeah I actually got to speak in person with the Gabe Malor thing. At the first NoVa MoMee. All of everything that weekend was better.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (xikgB)

525 "i had some stupid idea of a Big Tent."

But that would mean you were...

DUNT DUNT DUN!

...an Idealist

Posted by: Fenrisulven at June 22, 2025 04:08 AM (ciYHQ)

526 The ungrateful loaf does not disappoint.

Posted by: Butch at June 22, 2025 01:26 PM (+STEa)

TRUMP: US BOMBERS HAVE HIT THREE IRANIAN NUKE SITES INCLUDING FODROW




Ace jumping in for updates here.

Trump says all the crew are flying their planes back home.

trumpfodrow.jpg

According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

heh
Posted by: Tonypete

A guy on CNN is telling the semen-hued Anderson Cooper that he's "fascinated, and frankly impressed" by Trump's "two weeks" deception, guessing that it probably saved American lies. -- Ace

Pro-Iran rioters are sperging out in Penn Station.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at 08:25 PM




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1 9:25 pm?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (qKioJ)

2 Boom

Posted by: mot at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (ytKo6)

3 I knew the 6 B-2 going to Guam were the fake.

We had B-2s inside hangers in Diego Garcia, with the right weaponry and tanker support.

This is positive OPSEC, for the win.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (u82oZ)

4 Boom boom.

Posted by: Alana at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (lTWLu)

5 Because it's 7:27 Central where I'm at.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (qKioJ)

6 I guess the Commando Raid is off?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (tuLbh)

7 Prayers

Posted by: Goddessoftheclassroom at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (USyCi)

8 Guess I picked a fortuitous moment to check Twitter.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (jGGMD)

9 There were a dozen B2s at Diego Garcia more than a month ago.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (tuLbh)

10 Trump: I'll decide by July 4.
Mullahs: We'll never make a deal.
Trump: OK, guess I'll save myself two weeks then.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (/y8xj)

11 The Ali Shuffle... Boom!

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (i0F8b)

12 America, fuck yeah!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (pkLWe)

13 Two weeks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (tuLbh)

14 Anyone who attacks a country that's been at war with the United States for 46 years is prima facie evil!

Posted by: Kooky C. Tarlson at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (zW3tl)

15 I feel like we need to lock down the Ivy League for a few years now just to be safe.

Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (EtZ9h)

16 So, was there an earth shattering kaboom?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (zZu0s)

17 A necessary thing. 3rd world apocalyptic savages cannot be given nukes. They would use them.

Posted by: NJRob at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (Ce7wD)

18
What a day!!! Trump is an expert at rope-a-dope!

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (3ek7K)

19 So, are we saying it's WWIII before CW 2, or did that one start already?

Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (vd6bO)

20 So, was there an earth shattering kaboom?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

"Oh my, yes!!"

Posted by: Marvin the Martian at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (cYBz/)

21 Trump will address the nation at 10 PM

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (IG2sK)

22 Dear Ayatollah: Never mistake your opponent's generosity for weakness.

Also, go DIAF.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (jGGMD)

23 Hawaiian judge orders Iranian Nuclear sites be un-bombed.

Posted by: AFeralDuck at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (ZajzL)

24 I see somebody was listening

https://youtu.be/r64GxYmFS1M

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (S/Y4j)

25 please oh please oh please let there be video of the GBU-57's doing their thing.

The fact that all of the planes did this and are safe is simply astounding.

Score three direct hits for the Freedom Doritos!

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (WYStd)

26 This is gonna really piss off that imam in the well. Does he have any nukes?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (vbXSk)

27 Good. Keep it up until the weird beards are regulated to the dust bin of history. Hopefully, Iran will break apart with crazy, strange named warlords running different parts of the country, civil wars, cheap opium and lots of surplus weapons and sex slaves to buy on the open market.

You know, like those stupid Star War movies everyone loves.

Posted by: Star Wars For Real Bitches at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (R/m4+)

28 Now watch the Democrats line up to curse Trump's Thirty Seconds Over Tehran

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (AOsQT)

29 I feel like we need to lock down the Ivy League for a few years now just to be safe.
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (EtZ9h)


Why lock down when you can deport?

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (jGGMD)

30 Why is everyone looking at me all of a sudden??

Posted by: Strait of Hormuz at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

31 Fordow and Tucker Carlson hardest hit

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (8iNlE)

32 I guess Trump figures the usual suspects already hate him, even more than they hate the Jews, so why not take the heat from them AND get credit for eradicating the Iranian nuke threat.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (i0F8b)

33 Fordow looks like Mordor from the video.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (tuLbh)

34
Carlson can cry me a river

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (3ek7K)

35 >Good. Keep it up until the weird beards are regulated to the dust bin of history.
---

and those stupid donut-looking turbans, too

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (AOsQT)

36 zerohedge
@zerohedge
*TRUMP: COMPLETED SUCCESSFUL ATTACK ON 3 NUCLEAR SITES IN IRAN

*ISRAEL NOTIFIED BY TRUMP ADMIN BEFORE US STRIKING IRAN: AXIOS

@zerohedge
*TRUMP: WILL ADDRESS NATION AT 10:00 P.M

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (Dnobf)

37 Why? Oh, why?

I thought Trump was cannier than this. His wait two weeks was a great play to avoid getting involved.

I will agree with Awaken with JP from the other day when he said that even if Trump made what he disagreed with, he's not going to dump him because Trump is on his side 95% of the time. He also said, mebbe Trump knows something he doesn't.

A bit bummed out. Or mebbe that's bombed out.

Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (q7Vou)

38 1979 called. They said fuck Iran.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (u73oe)

39 I feel like we need to lock down the Ivy League for a few years now just to be safe.
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic

Lock down? Nope, complete destruction of our enemies is the only path to a lasting peace.

Posted by: Marvin the Martian at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (cYBz/)

40 Boss Moss

We only had hanger space in Diego Garcia for a few B-2s. The climate there does terrible things to the stealth coatings. Last month we returned most of the B-2s to Missouri.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (u82oZ)

41 Irabians are shooting video with their phones.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (tuLbh)

42 MSM reporting it as "US has entered the Iran War", while Trump said it was (kinda) a "one and done, time for peace".

I'm guessing extended war will be conducted by Israel, we just (hopefully) set back Iran's efforts for a nuke by a few years, or perhaps enhanced regime change. The new regime would (hopefully) be chosen by the majority of Iranian people, not the terrorist regime.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (vbXSk)

43 Thanks TJM.

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (b1aqf)

44 $hit just got real. We have been at war with iran since 1979 and the hostages. I got my first combat deployment in the Gulf in 88 during the tanker wars. iran has been a festering sore in that part of the world since the shah got removed and this needs to end without American boots on the ground.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (e5NfL)

45 Fordow? more like Fordon't... am I right? I'll let myself out.

Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (EtZ9h)

46 Boom goes the dynamite!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (36PRH)

47 Fordow, Natnz, Tucker Carlson and a few AOSHQ commenters hardest hit .

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (b1aqf)

48 Shoulda bombed them and kept our mouth shut. Let them think the Israelis did it

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (IG7T0)

49 >>37 Why? Oh, why?


When something needs to be done, somebody needs to do it.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (i0F8b)

50 Off extraterrestrial sock.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (cYBz/)

51 40 They had four temporary shelters from what I read. Is that enough to preserve the paint?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (tuLbh)

52 It took them 45 years, but they finally did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U

Posted by: Jaxso at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (++vng)

53 Time to revive this Beach Boys parody:

Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran
Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran
Bomb bomb bomb
Bomb bomb Iran

Bomb Ira-a-an...
Baby bomb Iran...

You got the rubble bouncin',
The Mulllahs got a trouncin'
Bomb Iran

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (qpyNK)

54 Fordow looks like Mordor from the video.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (tuLbh)


I've always assumed that all of Iran looks vaguely like Mordor.

I mean, I know that's wrong, but that's just my mental image.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (jGGMD)

55 So I wonder what will happen when 10 or 100 or 1000 Iranians let in by Jose decide to start the killing.

Will they kill 1000 or 10,000 and then what happens to a free America.
Think COVID but Tampon Tims police state not firing paintballs but ball ammo.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (gbOdA)

56 What were the sites hit with, specifically?

Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (L3c0T)

57 China gets 90% of it's oil from the Strait of Hormuz. Do not expect the Iranians to close that off, and piss off their only paying customer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (u82oZ)

58 Boom boom boom boom

Posted by: Muddy Waters and the B2s at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (Riz8t)

59 When it’s time to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.

Posted by: Some stupid with a flaregun at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (CfaEa)

60 Wow. Here we were all geared up for a Pride Month crescendo and we bomb, bomb Iran.... now Orange Man Bad pisses in the Pride Soup .

The Dems will no doubt insist that July be designated Pride make up month.



Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (FCPbW)

61 Boom boom, out go the lights!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (3Ope8)

62 Boss Moss

Yes, but I would expect a time limit on the effectiveness.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (u82oZ)

63 Well, JDAM it! We finally did something other than send the mullahs cash.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (ynpvh)

64 @56 GBU-57s from what I read. 30,000 lb bunker busters.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (36PRH)

65 What were the sites hit with, specifically?
Posted by: Common Tater

As Aetius451AD surmised, an earth-shattering Kaboom.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (cYBz/)

66 Would have preferred holding out for 'regime change'.
That said, they are called 'stealth bombers'. Deny or deflect.

Oops.
Too Late.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (/lPRQ)

67 So I wonder what will happen when 10 or 100 or 1000 Iranians let in by Jose decide to start the killing.

Will they kill 1000 or 10,000 and then what happens to a free America.
Think COVID but Tampon Tims police state not firing paintballs but ball ammo.
Posted by: rhennigantx


What happens? I put my terrorist hunting permit sticker back on my truck and go a'hunting.

Sucks to look like a goatfucker at that point.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (qKioJ)

68 Iran has now come to a fateful fork in the road:

Life ?
or
Glass?

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (FCPbW)

69 Shoulda hit the former U.S. embassy. It was ours anyway. The fact that it is Pasdaran HQ would be a bonus.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (vm8sq)

70 Ah, the B-2...

When it absolutely positively HAS to be destroyed overnight, accept no substitute.

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (AOsQT)

71 So much investment, over so many yaears! Decades. All gone....

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (b1aqf)

72 Perhaps this was addressing the shipment from China?

Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (vd6bO)

73 Zombie John McCain is wanking furiously

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (IG2sK)

74 Tehran! Tehran! Tehran!

Posted by: GEOTUS at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (i24o9)

75 56 What were the sites hit with, specifically?

GBU-57s and a lot of wishes for world peace, but mostly GBU-57s.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (Riz8t)

76 Strong, indisputable victories lead to long periods of peace. Nuclear weapons have also reduced the frequency of Great Power Wars with each other.

Nowadays, it's rabbit bashing or WWI with drones.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (u82oZ)

77 > 24 I see somebody was listening

https://youtu.be/r64GxYmFS1M
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (S/Y4j)

Better than my version.

Recommended.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (qpyNK)

78 >Iran has now come to a fateful fork in the road:
-----
well, when you come to a fork in the road, take it

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (AOsQT)

79 So much investment, over so many yaears! Decades. All gone....

I'll wait for the BDAs.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (Riz8t)

80 >>Shoulda bombed them and kept our mouth shut. Let them think the Israelis did it

There's only one bomb that could take out Fordow and only one plane that can carry it and both of them happen to belong to the USA.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (viF8m)

81 And somewhere Miss Lindsey is committing autofellatio

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (IG2sK)

82 So much investment, over so many yaears! Decades. All gone....
Posted by: runne




yeah it is funny to see what AIPAC did to itself with this hit

Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (toQ1t)

83 So much investment, over so many yaears! Decades. All gone....
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (b1aqf)
---
Maybe they kept the receipt....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (IBQGV)

84 73 Zombie John McCain is wanking furiously
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (IG2sK)
..........

While Obama and Valarie are crying in their soup. Good

Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (j/yko)

85 Iran could have used all the money spent of terrorism and nuclear bomb programs to make Iran a glittering jewel of a country.

Sucks to be them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (u82oZ)

86 US just widening the well for the 12th Mahdi...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (ynpvh)

87
I'm so glad Trump didn't wait two weeks. I was concerned what would happen before then.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (3ek7K)

88 It would be something I'd Trump says in his address that he decided to run for Presdient during the Iranian Hostage Crises and intends to get closure.

That should snap a few people back to reality.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (/lPRQ)

89 I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Chez Obama right now.

To watch his legacy get GBU'd off the face of the planet.

Valerie Jarret also can get f*cked.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (WYStd)

90 The reason I joined the military in 80 was because of Iran. It’s about time. It’s a new world without a constant shit stirrer in the ME.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Aoykm)

91 > I mean, I know that's wrong, but that's just my mental image.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (jGGMD)

It is a truly joyless place today. Not like under the Shah, when there were beaches full of gorgeous Persian chicks in bikinis.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (qpyNK)

92 nobody had a maga survey where the opposition to this was not in the 80s

Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (toQ1t)

93 Yeah, ya know, we don't really care that much about Taiwan.

Posted by: Xi Jinping at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Riz8t)

94 Where the f' isTed Koppel?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (w/5xj)

95 Smell the Glove

In his dreams. I assume he has a underaged Capital Page on call.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (u82oZ)

96 Zombie John McCain is wanking furiously
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (IG2sK)
..........

While Obama and Valarie are crying in their soup. Good

Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (j/yko)

While Bolton and the other neocons had been sidelined a long time ago.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (i24o9)

97 Iran could have used all the money spent of terrorism and nuclear bomb programs to make Iran a glittering jewel of a country.

Sucks to be them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (u82oZ)
---
That's basically the carrot President Trump has been dangling in front of all the troublesome countries.

Change your behavior and the world's your oyster.

Or reject that choice and suffer the consequences of your decision.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (IBQGV)

98 You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (tuLbh)

99 Has anyone checked on Ben Rhodes?

Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2025 08:46 PM (Z/h4+)

100 > The Dems will no doubt insist that July be designated Pride make up month.



Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (FCPbW)

If they like the Iranian government so much, we could maybe set up a bonus round of throwing people off buildings.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (qpyNK)

101 Wow, didn’t expect this today.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)

102 The great thing about this is the rest of the world now really does think PDT is crazy enough to do what he says he will.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (vFG9F)

103 Jak Sucio

The reason I joined the military in 82 was because of Iran and the failed rescue mission. It’s about time.

And in my time in the service, the USSR folded.
*Buffs fingernails on Nomex fire-fighting outfit.*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (u82oZ)

104 101 Wow, didn’t expect this today.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)

And during gay pride month too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (ynpvh)

105 I thought Trump was cannier than this. His wait two weeks was a great play to avoid getting involved.
-
That's called projection.

Look at what's happened. The B2s over the Pacific were a headfake to let Iran think it had more time than it did.

The same way the stories about Trump and Netanyahu arguing about Israel's airstrikes were.

This was always the plan. Iran giving up its nukes peacefully was the unlikely plan B.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (Dnobf)

106 91

It is a truly joyless place today. Not like under the Shah, when there were beaches full of gorgeous Persian chicks in bikinis.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (qpyNK)
---'
With shaved armpits too I bet.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (36PRH)

107 There's only one bomb that could take out Fordow and only one plane that can carry it and both of them happen to belong to the USA.
Posted by: JackStraw



Call the UN and report one stolen

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (qKioJ)

108 Opposite theory: Any action that is the opposite of what Obama would’ve done is the right course of action.

Obama gave them pallets of cash. Ergo, dropping big bombs on their heads (and nuke facilities) is absolutely correct. QED

Queue Beach Boys…. Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran 🎶

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (WdMlw)

109 3 I knew the 6 B-2 going to Guam were the fake.

We had B-2s inside hangers in Diego Garcia, with the right weaponry and tanker support.

This is positive OPSEC, for the win.
-------

And calm Chyna down.


Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (DNJiU)

110 Speaking of bombs, Soto just hit one to the moon.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (viF8m)

111 Tehran, "We demand a new coin toss! We did not elect to receive this!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (b7rtK)

112 It's been a rough week for those old F14s.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (tuLbh)

113 They had four temporary shelters from what I read. Is that enough to preserve the paint?
Posted by: Boss Moss

The biggest ass Air Force rec tents money can buy.
You know what that means? Air Conditioning !

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (/lPRQ)

114 Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

115 Wow, didn’t expect this today.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)

Don't make us bring out the comfy chair.

Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i24o9)

116 @104 DURING PRIDE MONTH?!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (36PRH)

117
fd,

True. I hope they are all shaking in their boots.

Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (3ek7K)

118 nobody had a maga survey where the opposition to this was not in the 80s
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (toQ1t)

Oh go f*ck the hell off.

The American people are sick of Iran's sh*t. 79% of the American people said that Iran should never have a nuclear weapon.

I love the moral equivalence of the Al-Carlsons who think that dropping a handful of bombs on Iran is the same as launching a modern D-Day in the Strait of Hormuz.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that our *kenetic* involvement is done now - except in the case of reprisals which, I'd be surprised if there's anything left for them to reprise with.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (WYStd)

119 90 The reason I joined the military in 80 was because of Iran. It’s about time. It’s a new world without a constant shit stirrer in the ME.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (Aoykm)

Yeah, I'll admit I'm ANGRY that it took us 42 Years to finally strike back for the crap we went through in Beirut in 83.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (mP0Kj)

120 And somewhere Miss Lindsey is committing autofellatio
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (IG2sK)

All right, I am going to put an end to this discussion, because there is nothing to discuss. On my way home from the gym, I popped into Bad Billy's looking for a man I was hoping was in the bathroom. I had a quick sherry with my French polisher and then I left. As for how I got into another man's shorts, that is no one's business!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (R/m4+)

121 In his dreams. I assume he has a underaged Capital Page on call.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (u82oZ)


Who you calling underaged?!

Posted by: "Elliot" Page at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (jGGMD)

122 After one crashed on Guam, there is only what 18 B-2 Spirits left?

Luckily the Guam crash did not tip the island over.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (b7rtK)

123 Alex and Mahmoud sitting in a tree
K I S S I N G

Shelley G@ShelleyGldschmt
Look who personally accompanied anti-Israel activist Mahmoud Khalil back to NYC.
Yes. AOC. The rising star of the Democratic party.
This is who they are.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (L/fGl)

124 Massive is already out. there biching

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DNJiU)

125 During Pride month, Mr. Trump? DURING PRIDE MONTH!!!!

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (HI5Mk)

126 You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.

You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Dead ayatollahs and the Persians upset.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (Riz8t)

127 112 It's been a rough week for those old F14s.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (tuLbh)

Not to even MENTION the one Maverick Stole...

Flat out theft!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (mP0Kj)

128 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM

Salty, hell yeah. And we were there!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (Aoykm)

129 114 Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

The first day of a hot summer?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (ynpvh)

130 # 2 weeks.

I'll be damned!

Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (j/yko)

131 Trump will address the nation at 10 PM
Posted by: Smell the Glove


BOOM! Shake, shake, shake the room!

Posted by: Trump's walk-on music at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DgGvY)

132 Details, assessment would be nice. I guess we woukd have to wait for that one.

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (b1aqf)

133 126 You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.

You drop 15 tons and what do you get? Dead ayatollahs and the Persians upset.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (Riz8t)

Saint Peter don't ya call me, cause I can't go...
I owe my soul to the new Crusade store...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (mP0Kj)

134 >>Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?

It does now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (viF8m)

135 # 2 weeks.

I'll be damned!
Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (j/yko)


He did say "within two weeks."

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (jGGMD)

136 Jak Sucio

Huzzah! Thinking of putting "Helped win the Cold War" on my VA tombstone.

I'm am getting over being shy and retiring.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (u82oZ)

137 I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Chez Obama right now.
Posted by: Defenestratus

Scene: A mansion in Kolarama. Some jug eared Islamic shill and Pride Parade Queen is is weeping and screaming into his pillow, "My legacy was destroyed by a real estate agent. From Queens!"

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (w/5xj)

138 @110 while my Yankees have hit a slow patch, the Mets haven't won a game since they showed the Pride™ flag during the national anthem.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (IG2sK)

139

I'm not surprised. Trump was never going to be caught in office when Iran announced they had a nuke. he's too proactive. He was always going to strike first.

I just hope it's not another Iraq with boots on the ground

Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (wGun1)

140 131 Trump will address the nation at 10 PM
Posted by: Smell the Glove

BOOM! Shake, shake, shake the room!
Posted by: Trump's walk-on music at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DgGvY)

Might I suggest...
Boom Boom, out go the lights?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (mP0Kj)

141 Well, it's harder for them to sing

You load 16 tons, and what to you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
St. Peter don't you call me cause I can't go,
I owe my soul to the Ayatollah.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (S/Y4j)

142 >>Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?

It does now.


Heh.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (Riz8t)

143 Within 2 weeks.

Right on queue.......

Posted by: zooomzooom at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (KF/1Z)

144 Summer Solstice!

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (b1aqf)

145 46 years too late, but still satisfying.

So suck it, you crazy-ass lickers of goat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (dDmld)

146 122 After one crashed on Guam, there is only what 18 B-2 Spirits left?

Luckily the Guam crash did not tip the island over.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (b7rtK)

Air Disasters had an episode on that. A sensor got moisture in it which affected the sensor.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (ynpvh)

147 @132 I'd be impresessed if Trump got 90% of the details correct. He tends to go off script with the hyperbole.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (36PRH)

148 To the isolationists at all costs crowd, fvck off.

Iran declared war against the United States in 1979 with chants of "Death to America" and the seizure of the American embassy. Then there was Beirut.

I would trade all those Marines for your worthless lives.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (b7rtK)

149 That two weeks sure went by fast.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (uyIjy)

150 impressed

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (36PRH)

151 Meanwhile in all of the sanctuary cities, the air just got let out of all of those ICE protests....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (SRRAx)

152 Melania: I don’t know who pissed you off, but they’re not inside me.

POTUS: Sorry hun, I got a bit carried away..

Melania: Warn me the next time you’re going to give me the full Commander In Chief!!

Posted by: SnakePlizzken at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (G0Od/)

153 Tehran weather forecast: 9,900 degrees Fahrenheit (5500 degrees Celsius)
Feels like: the surface of the Sun

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (qpyNK)

154 Have the "NO SHAHS!" protests been organized yet?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (IBQGV)

155 19ish with two that were either prototypes or test planes. Started at 23. Two were destroyed. Crashes?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (tuLbh)

156 Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions.

Very good comment. I like the mental image.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (u82oZ)

157 ABC is the only station covering this on the main non-cable channels.

No Canadian stations are bothering.

I'd think this would be BIG News. Sorry it came on your day off assholes.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (jvJvP)

158 Oh go f*ck the hell off.

The American people are sick of Iran's sh*t. 79% of the American people said that Iran should never have a nuclear weapon.

I love the moral equivalence of the Al-Carlsons who think that dropping a handful of bombs on Iran is the same as launching a modern D-Day in the Strait of Hormuz.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that our *kenetic* involvement is done now - except in the case of reprisals which, I'd be surprised if there's anything left for them to reprise with.
Posted by: Defenestratus



it is nice how you have the ability to think its fine that hardly anybody , even Trump voters, supported this, but they did it anyway

Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)

159 The Brits landed an A400 on Cyprus today.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (tuLbh)

160 rhennigantx,
My Jewish neighbors and my youngest kiddos ' BFF (also, orthodox) are locked and loaded. I pray no one tries anything stupid...

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (tubbA)

161 Wow, didn’t expect this today.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)

Us either.

Posted by: Fordow's lab staff, doing some quick calculations on how long the air will last at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (Dnobf)

162 Boss Moss

Yes. Hope the B-21 is more robust.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (u82oZ)

163 I'm am getting over being shy and retiring.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (u82oZ)


Tell me about it, lol.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (jGGMD)

164 I sure wish they had done the raid with B-52's. Then Trump could tell Iran "And if your grandchildren or great-grandchildren start to build nuclear weapons, they'll get another B-52 visit!"

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (2myyY)

165 With shaved armpits too I bet.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO

Doing the Brazilian before Brazil was even a country.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (/lPRQ)

166 When will Iran mine the Strait of Hormuz and launch missiles at U.S. bases

We just poked something we should not have. If you have a son or daughter in Iraq, make sure you call them. Nothing good is going to come out of this, Bibi successfully bullied TACO into a war.

This is how he's gonna get the Nobel peace prize? More like the war prize

He's in demented tantrum mode. I’m guessing this is his reaction to the No Kings protests.

Maybe it's the result of the crappy parade. He was humiliated by the parade so he had to stick his wiener out and bomb someone.

Will today be the official start of WW 3, then? Our mushroom dick Cheetos face comb over shit brain just couldn't control himself

I don't think there will be significant retaliation. I would think the main goal of the regime is to simply survive. The Iranian people may decide to take matters into their own hands, it’s been bubbling for quite a while now.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (ycI94)

167 Telegram is pretty lit right now.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (36PRH)

168 No leaks beforehand. Impressive.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (i0F8b)

169 The Brits landed an A400 on Cyprus today.

?
USAir landed a 767 at Newark today.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (Riz8t)

170 I guess they have another holey city now.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (vFG9F)

171 Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?

It will now.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (/y8xj)

172 Iraq 2 is gonna be fun.

Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (/i7JT)

173 Wish it wasn't required, Barky helped cause this as much as anyone, oh yeah Jimmy too. But a nuclear Iran is not tolerable

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (+qU29)

174 Going back downstairs

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (+qU29)

175 TACO/fetch isn't going to happen bitches!
-- me

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (36PRH)

176 The DU codgers are really struggling to get an angle on this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (dDmld)

177 Did PDT say "two weeks" yesterday or Thursday?

Can't remember.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (fV+MH)

178 Welp, now n and all members of Democrat-Media Complex, who have been in error on the after-effects and next moves of every government in the world on every move Trump has made for 10 years, will be here and on TV for days telling us precisely what will happen next around the world, and how badly Trump forked-up.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (aBgBM)

179 Wait , is that ace postin?

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (b1aqf)

180 Holy crap! I thought Trump would give them the full two weeks, but I guess not.

Sitting down here in StratCom's backyard . . . Four jets went directly above the apartment building late yesterday afternoon. It's hotter than the hinges of Hell here, so I didn't bother to look to see if it was actually four jets or just a pilot practicing up and downs. Usually when I hear jets, it's in the distance, but these four were directly over head. The cats were thoroughly pissed off by the time the fourth went over.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (5Aycr)

181 Wish it wasn't required, Barky helped cause this as much as anyone, oh yeah Jimmy too. But a nuclear Iran is not tolerable

I won't stand for this kind of calumny.
*sits down*
There, that's better. Also, I think you've given Jean Francois short shrift.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (Riz8t)

182 Allen

Thank you for exposing your lack of cognitive ability and the latest drivel from the Left.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (u82oZ)

183 I don't think there will be significant retaliation. I would think the main goal of the regime is to simply survive. The Iranian people may decide to take matters into their own hands, it’s been bubbling for quite a while now.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (ycI94)


whoa, Whoa, WHOA!! Intelligence at DU??

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (i0F8b)

184 >>it is nice how you have the ability to think its fine that hardly anybody , even Trump voters, supported this, but they did it anyway

I don't know what polls you were looking at but I haven't seen one where a majority didn't want Trump to take action against Iran.

If people are real upset then they don't have to vote for Trump in 2028.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)

185 Wow, didn’t expect this today.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 08:47 PM (p4NUW)


Me either. Figured it would be another 48 hours.

OK.
Here we go.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (W/lyH)

186 Fordow
Nathanz
Esfahan

All planes safely out of Iran air space.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (DNJiU)

187
Trump will address the nation at 10 PM

Helloooooooooooo nation!

Posted by: Emperor Norton at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (63Dwl)

188 105
You can thank Hillary in large part for what you call Plan B being unlikely.

I would have said to the Israelis is I was the POTUS 'hey, guys if this is so so so important, then why not you nuke it yourself'. Of course, no one is going to do that. Which is why my earlier thought is not projection.

Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (q7Vou)

189 He's in demented tantrum mode. I’m guessing this is his reaction to the No Kings protests.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions


They really do think a lot of themselves, don't they?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (/y8xj)

190 > it is nice how you have the ability to think its fine that hardly anybody , even Trump voters, supported this, but they did it anyway
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)

Nonsense.

Over 80% of Americans agree that Iran can NOT be allowed to get nuclear weapons.

Now go off in the corner and cry like the little liebot bitch that you are.

Adults are trying to talk here.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (qpyNK)

191 Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, and Barack Obama hardest hit.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (NztoB)

192 148 To the isolationists at all costs crowd, fvck off.

Iran declared war against the United States in 1979 with chants of "Death to America" and the seizure of the American embassy. Then there was Beirut.

I would trade all those Marines for your worthless lives.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (b7rtK)

Some of us who call for America to pull back? It's not because we don't want America to be decisive and strong.. it's because we are deployed in way too many places with way too much strength... to actually be effective where we need to be...

Our strength is frittered away in Africa, and Syria... and Iraq... and used to be in Afghanistan... in conflicts that had not much to do with us...

While Allowing Actual enemies, like China, and Iran... to flourish.

Europe has declared itself against our Bill of Rights... South Korea would kick the shit out of North Korea...

So why do we still have 10's of thousands of our troops there?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (mP0Kj)

193 Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)


Like all leftists, n relies on loaded questions and other logical fallacies to make his arguments.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)

194 The b-2 crash was due to human fallacy.

The 509th solved the sensor probe problem two years prior but never actually wrote it down to get official approval.

So several of the air data sensors were reading out of alignment. Why? Because this B-2 was left out in the rain. The crew called in a technician to recalibrate the sensors. Once this was the done, the crew went through the pre-flight check list and selected pitot tube re-heat. As the Spirit was rotating at takeoff it departed controlled flight.

The re-heat knocked the air data sensors out of alignment again which caused bad data to get fed to the air data computer. So classic GIGO and adios one $2 billion bomber.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (b7rtK)

195 The Brits on Cyprus arrested Iranians.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:59 PM (tuLbh)

196 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Man, Trump is the master troller. Who would have ever thought one of the greatest attributes of a good/great president would be the ability to troll one's enemies.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (XMwZJ)

197 {{{Captain Josepha Sabin}}}

How are you doing, darling?

I would expect the nuke sniffer aircraft to be on the move. And maybe some airborne command posts.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (u82oZ)

198 BOOM! Shake, shake, shake the room!
Posted by: Trump's walk-on music at June 21, 2025 08:50 PM (DgGvY)

Might I suggest...
Boom Boom, out go the lights?

Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (2myyY)

199 I don't think there will be significant retaliation. I would think the main goal of the regime is to simply survive. The Iranian people may decide to take matters into their own hands, it’s been bubbling for quite a while now.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (ycI94)

1 of 7 ain't bad. Leaflet that crap out Iran followed by AK drops. Get your house in order, and you can rebuild in peace.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (i24o9)

200 USAir landed a 767 at Newark today.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 08:55 PM (Riz8t)

Dang!
Somebody was able to get into Newark???

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (W/lyH)

201 I do hope that Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud has the decency to send us a "Thank you" card.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (uyIjy)

202 How come I never see the people who say the deployment of National Guard to LA is a provocation, never say Iran seeking a nuke is provocation?

Because if Iran had given up, they'd be left alone.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (NwfFc)

203 I know what's going to happen at work Monday morning. The old guy I work with is gonna be all het up about what just happened. Ostensibly, he seems conservative, but he has a real hatred for anything Trump says or does.

I just keep my mouth shut. I do not engage. As do a few of the other guys in the office. Just let him bellow for a while. Eventually he adjourns to his office and shuts the door.

Sigh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:00 PM (0aYVJ)

204 As a tangent, it'll be worth watching North Korea. Didn't that pudgy bastard utter some threats to the USA if we took action?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (7v6oI)

205 He did say "within two weeks."
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (jGGMD)

.........

Well aware. Usually #2 weeks means never!

Posted by: Molly k. at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (j/yko)

206 it is nice how you have the ability to think its fine that hardly anybody , even Trump voters, supported this, but they did it anyway
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)

Nonsense.

Over 80% of Americans agree that Iran can NOT be allowed to get nuclear weapons.

Now go off in the corner and cry like the little liebot bitch that you are.

Adults are trying to talk here.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (qpyNK)
----
Even IF n is right about polls not supporting this (he's spectacularly wrong), foreign policy is NOT a popularity contest. A leader will do the right thing, even when it's not popular because it's the necessary thing to do at that time. President Trump is a leader, not a high school cheerleader worried about being nominated Prom Queen.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (IBQGV)

207 >>>The old guy I work with is gonna be all het up about what just happened. Ostensibly, he seems conservative, but he has a real hatred for anything Trump says or does.


I will give him two weeks to change his shitty attitude.

Posted by: Donald Trump at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (KRtlO)

208 Dang!
Somebody was able to get into Newark???


Somebody wanted to?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (/y8xj)

209 Two weeks was misdirection.

Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (YwEeS)

210 Trump said 2 weeks. They answered, "Fuck You! Never!" Trump says, "OK."

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (i0F8b)

211 The logic is simple. No personnel remain at those sites, so this isn't a question of human degradation. A key condition in negotiations was destruction of facilities and capabilities. Either you do it or we will. You didn't and wouldn't, so we did. Not hitting any populated areas or other military or political targets.

Now that those three facilities are not operational, we can resume negotiations.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (IQ6Gq)

212 Did the crew make it?

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (DNJiU)

213 Romeo13

Did I need to embolden "at all costs" or what? I am taking aim at the opportunistic retards who are angling for the grift.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (b7rtK)

214 So...Tomahawks from subs too.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (W/lyH)

215 Like all leftists, n relies on loaded questions and other logical fallacies to make his arguments.
____

Not to mention outright lies.

Posted by: n-tifa the nitwit at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (qUkBO)

216 Weren't there Russians working at some of those sites?

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (b1aqf)

217 How come I never see the people who say the deployment of National Guard to LA is a provocation, never say Iran seeking a nuke is provocation?

Because those people want to see the destruction of the US.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (NztoB)

218 Vance-anuch! Hey, a hundred B-2's in the air twenty-four hours a day. Those weird beards show one hair on their asses, their dead. Believe me.
No, no, no! No more! Not this time, Consigliere! No more meetin's! No more discussions! No more Valerie Jarrett tricks! You give 'em one message, I want the weird beards gone. If not, it's all-out war, we go to the B-52 Arc Lights.

Posted by: President Donald J. Trump, Shot Caller With All The Keys at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (R/m4+)

219 Trump channeling AC/DC: I’ve got the biggest balls (bombs) of them all!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (WdMlw)

220 FAFO - keep going strong

Posted by: Lurker in Garland at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (nUO4/)

221 We have completed bombing the ever-loving shit out of the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE! America- Fuck Yeah! Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (AOsQT)

222 We need a "flaming Obama head" GIF for posts like this.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (NztoB)

223 36 zerohedge

Kind of a different message than they were reporting yesterday, focusing on Libya.

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/415325.php

Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (xekrU)

224 Within 2 weeks.

Right on queue.......
Posted by: zooomzooom

For when it absolutely, positively has to get there on time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (L/fGl)

225 The two man crew safely ejected before the B-2 turned into a $2 billion fireball.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (b7rtK)

226 The old guy I work with is gonna be all het up about what just happened. Ostensibly, he seems conservative, but he has a real hatred for anything Trump says or does.


I will give him two weeks to change his shitty attitude.
Posted by: Donald Trump at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (KRtlO)

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (b1aqf)

227 Now, notify PM Starmer that Diego Garcia is ours now, in perpetuity.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (vm8sq)

228 Trump bombed Iran? During Pride month? Has he no shame?!

Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (wGun1)

229 139
'I just hope it's not another Iraq with boots on the ground'

It won't be that because Trump wouldn't send anything beyond special forces.

I'm worried it will turn into a multi-year super Syria.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (3wi/L)

230 davidt

Exactly.

The Iranian leadership can't negotiate, only threaten.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (u82oZ)

231 DURING PRIDE MONTH?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (sbC1+)

232 216 Weren't there Russians working at some of those sites?
Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (b1aqf)
----
Yeah, and Putin reportedly had asked Trump for time to get them out of harm's way.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (36PRH)

233 No gub thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (tuLbh)

234 Sometimes shit happens, someone has to deal with it, and who you gonna call?
Dr. Peter Venkman

Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (GM3CZ)

235 Tehran during Pride Month?

Well this time it isn't the homosexuals going splat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (b7rtK)

236 We need a "flaming Obama head" GIF for posts like this.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (NztoB)

Kind of redundant, no?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (i24o9)

237 The old guy I work with is gonna be all het up about what just happened. Ostensibly, he seems conservative, but he has a real hatred for anything Trump says or does.


I will give him two weeks to change his shitty attitude.
Posted by: Donald Trump at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (KRtlO)

Just let me know, so I can take an early lunch.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (0aYVJ)

238 I would have said to the Israelis is I was the POTUS 'hey, guys if this is so so so important, then why not you nuke it yourself'. Of course, no one is going to do that. Which is why my earlier thought is not projection.
Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (q7Vou)

Are you retarded?

You're saying you expected Trump to take a position because that's what you'd do if you were President. That's literally what projection is.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (Dnobf)

239 Anna Puma

Thanks for reminding us of how fragile the B-2s are. Glad the pilots got out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (u82oZ)

240 I guess this thread is Movies from the Future.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (EVFZ5)

241 Nonsense.

Over 80% of Americans agree that Iran can NOT be allowed to get nuclear weapons.

Now go off in the corner and cry like the little liebot bitch that you are.

Adults are trying to talk here.
Posted by: Rodrigo


it is that 80 % of Americans , have the abilitty to hold to competing, contradictory, thoughts simultaneously, which is somethig hq commenters forerly had an ability for

Have fun watching what comes next with this

Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (MqKOn)

242 219 Trump channeling AC/DC: I’ve got the biggest balls (bombs) of them all!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:02 PM (WdMlw)

You've been Thunder Struck!!!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (7v6oI)

243 Finish Them!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (gAN4h)

244 They had better pray that Darth Trump does not alter the deal any further....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (SRRAx)

245 The AoS isolationist/Code Pink crew hardest hit.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (vm8sq)

246 >No gub thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss
---

check the calendar

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (AOsQT)

247 I would have said to the Israelis is I was the POTUS 'hey, guys if this is so so so important, then why not you nuke it yourself'. Of course, no one is going to do that. Which is why my earlier thought is not projection.

Posted by: Eric2


You...seem almost disappointed that this didn't turn into a nuclear attack.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (Riz8t)

248 No gub thread?

#22hours

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (/y8xj)

249 Dang!
Somebody was able to get into Newark???

Somebody wanted to?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (/y8xj)


End of times?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (W/lyH)

250 @182 some of us aren’t so senile that we’ve forgotten Iraq.
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (vTjXb)


But you *are* so senile you missed what Trump has said several times in the last week: no boots on the ground, no regime change by us, just taking out the nukes.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (NztoB)

251 it is that 80 % of Americans , have the abilitty to hold to competing, contradictory, thoughts simultaneously, which is somethig hq commenters forerly had an ability for

Have fun watching what comes next with this
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (MqKOn)


Careful, you're approaching Mary Cloggenstein levels of coherence.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (jGGMD)

252 https://tinyurl.com/yrw3tc4h

Seems appropriate.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (p4NUW)

253 n

Ralph Waldo Emerson has entered the chat.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (u82oZ)

254 "Are you retarded?

You're saying you expected Trump to take a position because that's what you'd do if you were President. That's literally what projection is.
Posted by: Methos "

It's the main reason I didn't vote for Eric2.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (fV+MH)

255 How did they get passed the GPS jammers and 5th Gen fighters?

Posted by: Admiral Kazansky at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (aaSro)

256 Have fun watching what comes next with this

We will. With bourbon and cigars. And a solemn memory of the Marines...

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (tubbA)

257 I would give cash money for Fox to switch back to Bret Bair. I'd rather the beta male thumb than the blowhard Hannity

Posted by: Shenanigans at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (wGun1)

258 166
'He's in demented tantrum mode. I’m guessing this is his reaction to the No Kings protests.'

These twats massively overestimate their significance.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (3wi/L)

259 How are the negotiationa going?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (tuLbh)

260 No gub thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss
---

It's been upgraded to MOP Thread

Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (GM3CZ)

261 Some people did something.
Go tell Ilhan...I think she'll know.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (oziVZ)

262 256 How did they get passed the GPS jammers and 5th Gen fighters?
Posted by: Admiral Kazansky at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (aaSro)

they flew SERPERTINE... up a Canyon of course!

Because going Serpentine... makes yah SAFE!

Posted by: Draco Malfoy at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (mP0Kj)

263 The NoVAMoMe was fun!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)

264 "You break it, you bought it" -- Colin Powell

Nope. We just broke the military threat and got out. As we should have done when you were throwing this slogan around.

Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (ju/6W)

265 No gub thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss
---

It's been upgraded to MOP Thread

Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (GM3CZ)

GBU >>> GUB

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (i24o9)

266 i updated the post

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (KRtlO)

267 It's about fucking time.

Iran has killed thousands of Americans since 1979 a d we've never responded strongly enough.

Time to end the Mullahs.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (/RHNq)

268 I've said in the past that no war goes as planned. It has a life of his own.
When Iran funded, trained, and allowed Oct 7th, they started a war. I have no doubt they had no idea what they started would come to this.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (W/lyH)

269 5th Gen fighters mean squat when the whole air defense network is dead or turned off to save the shattered remnants.

Iran has a lot of air space to defend.

Stealth bombers could have come in from the south, the east, the west, or even from Russia just to up the trolling.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (b7rtK)

270 Weasel

Excellent!

The bail money fund still intact?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (u82oZ)

271 248 I'm dissapointed we got involved. From a place of fair mindedness, if I was an Israeli, and I honestly thought Fordow was Doom (I don't think they believe that) I'd say 'screw the US' and nuke Fordow if that was my only choice.

Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (q7Vou)

272 >>>256 How did they get passed the GPS jammers and 5th Gen fighters?

hah

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (KRtlO)

273 I have been very worried about an Iran with nuclear bombs. Israel taking out their air defenses probably made this decision much easier. Now we see how Iran retaliates, if they can.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (TjbCm)

274 Have fun watching what comes next with this

What's next with this? Iran probably will fracture into multiple countries by tribe/ethnicity (primarily Kurdistan and Persia), the mullahs will swing from lampposts, and I'll have a cup of Iron Dome Coffee (thanks to whichever of my gray box friends here mentioned that it exists).

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (NztoB)

275 Make no mistake....this attack is also aimed at poo Tin.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (oziVZ)

276 264 The NoVAMoMe was fun!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025

I am so sorry I missed it.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (p4NUW)

277 260 How are the negotiationa going?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (tuLbh)

Thing is? We all think of International Relations as being subject to negotiation...

It is not... it's a game of Poker... do you call? Do you bluff? or do you have a fuckin winning Hand.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (mP0Kj)

278 @263 Stop speaking Slytherin, speak English!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (36PRH)

279 What about the robust airdefenses?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (tuLbh)

280 Mike Benz has been pushing that this is literally Top Gun Maverick, but he's getting pushback from people who say the military details are different enough that it's really Star Wars: A New Hope.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (NztoB)

281 The NoVAMoMe was fun!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)
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See what you miss when y'all are having too much fun?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)

282 Explosions in Tehran, Semnan, Qom, Shiraz, Bandar Abbas and more locations across w. Iran.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (DNJiU)

283 >>>A guy on CNN is telling the semen-hued Anderson Cooper


Vintage Ace cruelty, on a Saturday night.

We truly are unworthy.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (jGGMD)

284 I was under the impression the B-2's to Guam were a fake. It seemed to me we have the capability to fuel those things in the air. But, then again, President Trump kept saying, "two weeks." Which, in and of itself was kind of amusing.

Note, Netanyahu kept saying, "Israel can do this without American help."

Which means he was in on what the US was going to do, most likely.

Operational security on this was marvelous.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (tT6L1)

285 251 @182 some of us aren’t so senile that we’ve forgotten Iraq.
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (vTjXb)

But you *are* so senile you missed what Trump has said several times in the last week: no boots on the ground, no regime change by us, just taking out the nukes.
Posted by: Ian S.



That is purposely overlooked by the Brigade of Pearl Clutchers. I see the made up polls are being vomited out too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (PGK1w)

286 pro-iran rioters in penn station

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (KRtlO)

287 46 years late but better late than never.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (qgNn3)

288 zerohedge

Kind of a different message than they were reporting yesterday, focusing on Libya.

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/415325.php
Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 09:03 PM (xekrU)

They had an article on the main page, when I checked that one earlier in the day, basically claiming that Iran was winning and now was the time for the global south to rise up against the 'Zionist Axis'.

I'm guessing someone may be rethinking that take.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (Dnobf)

289 No gub thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss
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It's been upgraded to MOP Thread

Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (GM3CZ)

GBU >>> GUB
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (i24o9)
***

Cigar time!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (W/lyH)

290 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (u82oZ)
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The bail situation is still fluid.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (62ILr)

291 How many times has TheJamesMadison done breaking news? If this keeps up, Ace will have to hand out the keys to the vault where he keeps the flaming skulls.

Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (ju/6W)

292 I'm dissapointed we got involved. From a place of fair mindedness, if I was an Israeli, and I honestly thought Fordow was Doom (I don't think they believe that) I'd say 'screw the US' and nuke Fordow if that was my only choice.

Nukes are messy. The bunker-busters will do the same job without irradiating any of the extremely fine looking Persian ladies in that country.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (NztoB)

293 So, Chinese official word on Taiwan is now???

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (tubbA)

294 Egads! Just saw this!
Mister President. Thank you for being a bold, decisive leader.

Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (TfUTr)

295 Time for some music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (b7rtK)

296 >>>A guy on CNN is telling the semen-hued Anderson Cooper


Vintage Ace cruelty, on a Saturday night.

We truly are unworthy.


This is how you know the real pros: they can make a lewd, graphic joke in the middle of a huge news story.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (Riz8t)

297 “the semen-hued Anderson Cooper” 😂🤣

Never stop the cruelty Ace!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (nrfI8)

298 I am so sorry I missed it.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (p4NUW)
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We missed having you there so we talked about you behind your back!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (62ILr)

299 Trump said two weeks two days ago.
*snicker*
I'm not tired of winning yet either.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (oziVZ)

300 The NoVAMoMe was fun!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)
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See what you miss when y'all are having too much fun?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)

NoVAMoMe was really just misdirection to cover for the real op in Iran. Well done, morons.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (i24o9)

301 264 The NoVAMoMe was fun!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025

I am so sorry I missed it.
Posted by: Piper
***********
So are we (that you missed it)

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

302 A guy on CNN is telling the semen-hued Anderson Cooper that he's "fascinated, and frankly impressed" by Trump's "two weeks" deception, guessing that it probably saved American lies. -- Ace
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Ya know, to tie this into the Movie Thread, this reminds me of the scene in Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan when Kirk and Spock deceive their enemies when speaking over an open channel. Spock said it would take days or weeks to fix the Enterprise, but really meant hours. Kirk, of course, understood the code but Khan did not.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (IBQGV)

303 129 114 Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b

It does now...

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (jvJvP)

304 294 So, Chinese official word on Taiwan is now???

Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (tubbA)

Maybe that's why those B-2s are at Guam.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (i0F8b)

305 6 I guess the Commando Raid is off?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (tuLbh)

If not, they better bring shovels.

Posted by: Crotalus Atrox at June 21, 2025 09:13 PM (ogJ/j)

306 Tomahawks also.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (tuLbh)

307 I'm guessing someone may be rethinking that take.

Or doing a David Carradine in the closet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (b7rtK)

308 CNN: when Trump pulled out of Ozoomba's JCOA Iran started enriching at Fordow.

TL : DR it's Trump's fault

Posted by: Hick Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (fweVu)

309 Explosions in Tehran, Semnan, Qom, Shiraz, Bandar Abbas and more locations across w. Iran.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others

The FAFO is strong with this one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (L/fGl)

310 I would guess the number of Iranian and affiliated terror cells in the US number in the dozens, if not hundreds. Going to be an interesting next few weeks. Go armed everywhere.

Posted by: troyriser at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (DPeYO)

311 How many times has TheJamesMadison done breaking news? If this keeps up, Ace will have to hand out the keys to the vault where he keeps the flaming skulls.
Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (ju/6W)


He's evidently already given away the keys to the time machine.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (jGGMD)

312 @251 When the Iranian government falls, who do you think is going to restore order? The Europeans?

Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (kLxtU)

313 287 pro-iran rioters in penn station

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (KRtlO)
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I bet the Mullahs wish those protestors were in Iran right now.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (36PRH)

314 Note, Netanyahu kept saying, "Israel can do this without American help."

Which means he was in on what the US was going to do, most likely.

Operational security on this was marvelous.


It seems that Hegseth put the fear of God in the usual leakers. I can easily imagine him calling for a firing squad for them.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Riz8t)

315 President Donald J Trump does not start wars. He just wins them. RINO Bush and Obama and Biden take notice. This is how you use American firepower. We are now control the Middle East. We have stopped Iran's nuclear weapons program. God has looked favorably on President Trump. We will make the Middle East safe for Israel.

Posted by: Diabeetus at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (SawFp)

316 "By the book Professor Squirrel, hours would seem like days."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (b7rtK)

317 The NoVAMoMe was fun!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (62ILr)


Jeez!!!
So what happens during the Texas MoMe???

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (W/lyH)

318 I don't understand.

Why did Putin tell his puppet Trump to bomb Iran?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (xTIDn)

319 Iran will retaliate by throwing fifty gays off of roofs

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (IG2sK)

320 207
'foreign policy is NOT a popularity contest.'

I used to have the same attitude about W until he overextended our armed forces and pissed away our credibility bad enough for Obama to look good to the voters.
That bad an outcome is possible for Trump if he isn't careful.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (3wi/L)

321 Allen

The Iranians and the Kurds.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (u82oZ)

322 Iran has a lot of air space to defend.

Stealth bombers could have come in from the south, the east, the west, or even from Russia just to up the trolling.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (b7rtK)

Lots of Airspace... and... as someone who used to play in this very arena...

Lots of dead space due to Mountain ranges... Iran is NOT a flat country...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (mP0Kj)

323 255

No, I said more what I'd do, and how no one would do that.

Vote for me: One of my key plans is to make a 700 mile long, fifty mile wide freshwater lake on the Mexican border.

Also dissolve NATO.

Posted by: Eric2 at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (q7Vou)

324 6 30,000 pound bombs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (tuLbh)

325 Remember Trump is a builder.

Two week estimate, finished the job in 2 days, customer is happy.

Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (ju/6W)

326 Will the ONT be delayed until after the President speaks to the nation - and the world, or will we just discuss it live there?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (S/Y4j)

327 Israel wiped out or seriously degraded the anti aircraft capabilities of Iran, making it possible for our bombers to get in and out without much fuss, it appears.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (tT6L1)

328 1 of 7 ain't bad. Leaflet that crap out Iran followed by AK drops. Get your house in order, and you can rebuild in peace.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

Don't forget the StarLink minis... and extra batteries.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (/lPRQ)

329 It's not a bombing raid, it's a mostly peaceful protest against Iran.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (GM3CZ)

330 In my 18 years at the Pentagon, I've never seen such operational security.

There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days.


You mean they didn't chat about it on the Signal messaging app?

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (rF2iL)

331 0.1 Kilotons of conventional boom dropped in the big site?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (pIfcn)

332 Now is the time for Peace!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (qgNn3)

333 LOL! also WOOHOO!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (alnxS)

334 CNN: when Trump pulled out of Ozoomba's JCOA Iran started enriching at Fordow.

I've seen reports that enriching went into overdrive under cover of the pandemic, with the approval of the EU and other usual suspects.

How does the EU square the circle that they've decided nuclear power makes Gaia cry, but also that Iran must have it?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (NztoB)

335 320 Iran will retaliate by throwing fifty gays off of roofs
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (IG2sK)

So... yeah... going straight ta hell for this comment...

It's a Win / Win?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (mP0Kj)

336 Holy crap!

The US is bombing Iran. Things are getting better for me too.

Up to 40% Five point jump. The rest are on me. But this was sweet. Can't wait for the speech.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (jvJvP)

337 If I ran the zoo, I'd immediately call for a summit with the US, Russia, and China.
Resolved: No more nations get nuclear weapons. Anybody that tries gets bombed and/or invaded.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (zZSxi)

338 "By the book Professor Squirrel, hours would seem like days."
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (b7rtK)
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Honestly, the media are so stupid I bet President Trump could pull off the same ploy with them. In fact, I would not all be surprised if he did it that way on purpose. The Israelis may have been in on the code.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (IBQGV)

339 They stormed Penn Station? Seriously? What, they're going to beg money and drink beer out of brown paper bags?

Posted by: Hick Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (fweVu)

340 That video, according to the live feed I'm watching, is not Fordow.

It's one of the other sites.

Per Wiki, they say the MOP can only go 60 meters but Fardow is 80 meters.

All B-2s went to Fordow, the other sites were hit with sub launched Tomahawk missiles.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (NwfFc)

341 209 Two weeks was misdirection.

Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (YwEeS)


So was openly sending a couple of B-2s west across the Pacific, expected to take days to get to Diego Garcia to be in position to attack Fordow.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (aBgBM)

342 From what I understand, none of the videos on the internet claiming they are from today are real. They are all old videos.

But the planes bombed Fordow, and tomahawks from subs for the other 2 sites, according to the WH.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (rvwwT)

343 Carlson is CIA.
There it is. A distraction in a war that's been happening for decades.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (oziVZ)

344 Did the folks watching Pentagon adjacent pizzerias have this one called beforehand?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (pIfcn)

345 It seems that Hegseth put the fear of God in the usual leakers. I can easily imagine him calling for a firing squad for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Riz8t)
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And I would back Hegseth 100% if he put someone who leaked such an operation against the wall after a court martial.

We've suffered fools who hate America long enough in the Pentagon.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (tT6L1)

346 Some of the damage on Iran was caused from tomahawk Cruise missiles fired off the USS Georgia Submarine....

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (gAN4h)

347 {{{NaCly}}} !!! Hanging in there. I had dialysis today. Bleh. My brain will probably not unstable til tomorrow. I hope you are doing well. Coping is a bitch.

I always have an ear out for what's happening at Offutt. I know I've given a couple of false reports of activity, which is why I didn't mention yesterday's jets. But it's really hard to ignore four jets skimming the rooftop.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (5Aycr)

348 Israel wiped out or seriously degraded the anti aircraft capabilities of Iran, making it possible for our bombers to get in and out without much fuss, it appears.

From what I've read, Iran's anti-aircraft went to zero basically the first night of Israeli bombing. Having a mole inside the Iranian Revolutionary Guard probably helped with that, LOL.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (NztoB)

349 Massive OPSEC win.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (Q4IgG)

350 Sadly, I couldn't make it to the MoMe. We're very short handed at work. Couldn't get the time off.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (PGK1w)

351 Ace is here!

New updates.

No flaming skulls or pudding cups.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (jvJvP)

352 >>> 57 China gets 90% of its oil from the Strait of Hormuz. Do not expect the Iranians to close that off, and piss off their only paying customer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (u82oZ)

I've read that Iran sells 90% of its oil to China but that is only 10% of what China imports, so I assume the rest of what is going through the Strait of Hormuz is from other OPEC countries. I believe Iran has recently completed a pipeline to their best customer, but I'm not so sure the other vendors would be willing to deliver to Iran as middleman.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM (ULPxl)

353 Al Jazeera is reporting that Iran's nuclear programs are the most regulated and inspected on the planet plus Iran had signed and was abiding by non-nuclear proliferation treaties.

What I come to learn in the later parts of my life everything becomes a comedy routine.

Where the f' is Ted Koppel? I need Ted!

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (NXz8h)

354 I saw a guy on Fox explaining that the bulk of the 30,000 lb weight of the bombs is just a massive thick metal jacket to penetrate into the earth before the explosives are detonated. One bomb carves a path down about 100 feet, then the second bomb follows and goes down another 100 feet.

They said the bombs are very accurate. They have GPS guidance in their noses and hit "within meters" of the target.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (KRtlO)

355 It seems that Hegseth put the fear of God in the usual leakers. I can easily imagine him calling for a firing squad for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Riz8t)


I wonder if that's partly what Col. McCormack's sacking was about.

I mean, he deserved it on his own terms, but maybe there was an element of "pour encourager les autres" in the DoD's response.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (jGGMD)

356 I hope Trump goes all Abu Bakr on the mullahs tonight.

Abu died like a dog. We could hear him crying.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (viF8m)

357 Does anyone who the updated AceofspadesHQ MasterBlaster pairing excel sheet? I need to know where to report in case of post nuclear wasteland fun.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (nh5Ve)

358 Yes Romeo13

Yep, reason why the Shah went with the F-14. The AWG-9 is powerful enough to cover a lot of airspace, can track 24 targets, kill six of them, and vector other fighters like an AWACs to kill the others.

Which is why the Israelis dropped bombs on all those beautiful Persian Cats, because they were a serious threat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (b7rtK)

359
According to Hannidiot on FOX now, we used 6 GBU-57s on Fordow. He said Trump told him that directly a few minutes ago.

Also used a bunch of Tomahawks to hit the other facilities.

The Western route stuff was all fakery, get everyone's eyes looking at the Pacific, which the real action was eastward.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (w6EFb)

360 And to think it was done, as far I know, without unleashing the nuclear genie! Thank God! Oh, most merciful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, thank You! Amen.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (qgNn3)

361 328 Israel wiped out or seriously degraded the anti aircraft capabilities of Iran, making it possible for our bombers to get in and out without much fuss, it appears.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:15 PM (tT6L1)

R-13 Doctrine... now blow up every bridge, every factory, every Electricity plant, every road, every TV station, every radio station, all Port Facilities, every Oil Producing thing...

If they wish to act like 7th Century barbarians... then let them live like that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (mP0Kj)

362 >Remember Trump is a builder.

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not today

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (AOsQT)

363 >>>That video, according to the live feed I'm watching, is not Fordow.

Yeah I figured, Fordow is in the mountains. It's remote.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (KRtlO)

364 but two other nuke sites were hit, Nanatz (?) and Ifran (?), something like that

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (KRtlO)

365 B2's are OK, but they're no B1.

Posted by: Bob Dornan at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (dIske)

366 " I do hope that Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud has the decency to send us a "Thank you" card."

I am pretty sure that he already paid for it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (ZmEVT)

367 CNN specializes in the stupidest pundits in the world.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (fweVu)

368 Israel wiped out or seriously degraded the anti aircraft capabilities of Iran, making it possible for our bombers to get in and out without much fuss, it appears.

I imagine there are still lots of AA sites throughout the country, but they have to know that the B-2s didn't go in unescorted, and that the first one to turn on their system gets smoked. Nobody wants to be the last one to die for a failing regime.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:19 PM (Riz8t)

369 Massive OPSEC win.

The contrast with the Biden junta is crystal clear.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (NztoB)

370 >>> 89 I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Chez Obama right now.

To watch his legacy get GBU'd off the face of the planet.

Valerie Jarret also can get f*cked.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (WYStd)

Anyone seen her lately? Wouldn't it be sad if she had been on an international uh, business trip.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (ULPxl)

371 Netanyahu wanted to kill the Ayatollah two weeks ago and Trump asked him not to. Hope he sleeps well tonight. It may be his last nap.
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Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (DNJiU)

372 Time for the US to get Iranian oil back on the market to lower gas prices. Just make sure we have a good government in Tehran that understands the importance of Western values and will ensure we get the oil we desire.

Posted by: Diabeetus at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (SawFp)

373 They just admitted B2s to Guam was bullshit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (tuLbh)

374 Anyone who opposes Israel must DIE!!!!1!

According to my AIPAC handler it's in the Bible somewhere.

Posted by: Senator Ted Cruz at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (JvRTK)

375 273 >>>256 How did they get passed the GPS jammers and 5th Gen fighters?

hah
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:09 PM (KRtlO)
They know some things cause they've seen some things.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (LHPAg)

376 I hope Hegseth put all the suspected officer leakers on various committees tasked to redesign all the officer uniforms.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (b7rtK)

377 Some of the damage on Iran was caused from tomahawk Cruise missiles fired off the USS Georgia Submarine....
Posted by: Captain Fantastic

Could be - monumental jealousy between service branches is legendary.

Everyone wants a piece of the operational pie.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (cYBz/)

378 Israel used its covert drone base inside Iran to take down the IADS. I'm in awe of what the Israeli defense and covert forces have accomplished. But they didn't have the munition to destroy Fordow. From what I've heard, the B-2s likely dropped MOPs in sequence, each one going farther underground until they hit the bunker.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (TjbCm)

379 Captain Josepha Sabin

Glad to hear you and the XO are fine, for varying amounts of fine. I thank you yet again for attending our MoMeet lunch with Jewells45. That was timely.

I did speak at her Celebration of Life recently.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (u82oZ)

380 Just wondering, why is the B-2 the preferred delivery system for the MOP versus the B-1?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (tT6L1)

381 Do me one more time.

Posted by: Fodrow at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (ZmEVT)

382 6 GBU-57s on Fordow. The definition of, "Overwhelming Force."

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (i0F8b)

383 R-13 Doctrine

Oh, the Morgenthau Plan for Germany

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:21 PM (b7rtK)

384 Average elevation of Iran 4,200 feet.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (oziVZ)

385 330 It's not a bombing raid, it's a mostly peaceful protest against Iran.
Posted by: Josephistan


A late entry for the threadwinner contest.....

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (DgGvY)

386 Wonder how much radiation has been released from these BFB (BIG F'ING BOMBS) into these nuclear sites.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (7v6oI)

387 342 209 Two weeks was misdirection.

Posted by: steevy at June 21, 2025 09:01 PM (YwEeS)


So was openly sending a couple of B-2s west across the Pacific, expected to take days to get to Diego Garcia to be in position to attack Fordow.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:16 PM (aBgBM)

Hmmm.. it was two days ago when Iran said they would not negotiate without the Israelis stopping the bombings...

Trump lost his patience... said... go.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (mP0Kj)

388 They just admitted B2s to Guam was bullshit.

Hank Johnson hardest hit?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (NztoB)

389 The B-1B Bone has the RCS of a sparrow.

The B-2 Spirit has the RCS of a mosquito.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (b7rtK)

390 but two other nuke sites were hit, Nanatz (?) and Ifran (?), something like that

Probably Isfahan.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (Riz8t)

391 Thank you, ace.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (Plbvm)

392
pro-iran rioters in penn station

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace


But who will make the sandwiches?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (63Dwl)

393 FAFO...the gloves are off motherfucker.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (XeU6L)

394 >>>Anyone who opposes Israel must DIE!!!!1!
According to my AIPAC handler it's in the Bible somewhere.

They can't help but reveal themselves.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (KRtlO)

395 Those fuckfaces on CNN should bear the brunt of any secondary US bombing plan

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (fweVu)

396 Pretty sure they used Wing Attack Plan R.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (62ILr)

397 Glad to hear you and the XO are fine, for varying amounts of fine. I thank you yet again for attending our MoMeet lunch with Jewells45. That was timely.

I did speak at her Celebration of Life recently.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (u82oZ)


Salty, that's good to hear. Wish I'd had the chance to meet her before she went. Was it a pretty good ceremony?

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (jGGMD)

398 358 Does anyone who the updated AceofspadesHQ MasterBlaster pairing excel sheet? I need to know where to report in case of post nuclear wasteland fun.
Posted by: Rbastid at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (nh5Ve)

In the event of Post Nuclear Apocalypse we immediately move to seize the studded leather clothing factories. It is known from the documentaries from the '80s that all post apocalyptic clothing will be studded leather.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (pIfcn)

399 Any earthquakes?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (tuLbh)

400 They could tell they hit the bunker because of the jump in radioactivity measured by the satellite they parked overhead.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (oziVZ)

401 387 Wonder how much radiation has been released from these BFB (BIG F'ING BOMBS) into these nuclear sites.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2025 09:22 PM (7v6oI)

Yeah... accordin to my Navy Nuc School Edumucation (although I never did graduate... I did attend)...

Not much... all the shit was buried already...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (mP0Kj)

402 The B-2 bomb bay is apparently the only one large enough to deliver MOPs. They also fly high, and the bomb velocity into the ground gets a gravity assist.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (TjbCm)

403 If ace is still here.....

Just for the record, this is upsetting my plans to finally see "Alien." On Disney+. Never saw it.

I have seen "Aliens" a few times. Newt is the best. Still friends with Weaver. Schoolteacher now. And there is a great Aliens fandom wiki out there.

How can I start a kick ass movie before President Trump speaks? About being kick ass....

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (jvJvP)

404 Looks like Trump has reversed Obama's Iran policy.

Posted by: Jim at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (DcE5z)

405 Trump you Magnificent Bastard.....

The World and Ragheads were watching Guam and we hit them from Diego !!!!!!

Posted by: Ghost of George Patton at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (1RZQV)

406 Putin is probably relieved this happened

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (IG7T0)

407 https://www.youtube.com/live/LpzssWYim38

The Enforcer on youtube is providing live news.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (uqyLy)

408 I hope Hegseth put all the suspected officer leakers on various committees tasked to redesign all the officer uniforms.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (b7rtK)

I'd rather see them put in charge of paint colors and flooring in DoD facilities. It's harder to screw that up in a way that affects combat effectiveness.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (S/Y4j)

409 pro-iran rioters in penn station

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace

Iran. They Ran. We all ran !

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (yjTHn)

410 USS Georgia is one of four Ohio boomers' converted into cruise missile submarines.

IIRC each of these SSGNs can carry 144 Tomahawks. So yeah this one submarine could really give Beijing a bad day.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (b7rtK)

411 I’m gonna have a few “told you so’s” stored up when we eventually see a year from now that Iran was/is incapable of any significant retaliation

Remember a few months ago when they tried to retaliate against Israel and it was mostly a harmless shower of missiles taken out by the iron dome?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (6RwsA)

412 B2's are OK, but they're no B1.

B-1's are okay, but they are no B-52.

Actually? There are two flying B-29's still out there. It would be beyond insulting if Trump had borrowed one to drop the bunker-buster.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (2myyY)

413 Those fuckfaces on CNN should bear the brunt of any secondary US bombing plan

Plenty of targets to go around.

I saw people on X laughing about a JV Last article for The Bullwank about how we must all hide illegals in our attics like Anne Frank, for they are truly the best of us.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (NztoB)

414 Got me bit of a chubby right now.

Sorry. I usually don't bring up personal matters. Still, this is fucking awesome.

Think about it. Almost always there are OPSEC leaks. Not this time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (0aYVJ)

415 Iran now saying all American civilians and military in the ME are legitimate targets.

Oh?

And that's different from the last 50 years how?

Satellite passing over caught the explosion, lol visible from space

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (NwfFc)

416 FOX PENTAGON REPORTER: "In my 18 years at the Pentagon, I've never seen such operational security.

There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days."

With good reason, Jennifer. If they told you what they were planning, you and your media peers would have blabbed it all over creation.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (h7ZuX)

417 it is nice how you have the ability to think its fine that hardly anybody , even Trump voters, supported this, but they did it anyway
Posted by: n at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (ET1ES)

Tell me captain antisemite braintrust....

Do you think the isolationists would rather a nuclear weapon be used against us on our own soil?

I'm starting to think that the supposed MAGA movement is a death cult.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (fpamp)

418 Mike Benz has been pushing that this is literally Top Gun Maverick, but he's getting pushback from people who say the military details are different enough that it's really Star Wars: A New Hope.
Posted by: Ian S.


So, Fordow was being operated by two-meter rats?

Isn't that a little tall for a nuke tech?

Posted by: mikeski may be misreading this at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (DgGvY)

419 Looks like Trump has reversed Obama's Iran policy.
Posted by: Jim at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (DcE5z)
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I, for one, appreciate this sort of dry humor

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (fweVu)

420 In the event of Post Nuclear Apocalypse we immediately move to seize the studded leather clothing factories. It is known from the documentaries from the '80s that all post apocalyptic clothing will be studded leather.

I went long on colander futures. I'm gonna be rich!

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (Riz8t)

421 Putin is probably relieved this happened

He already said the mullahs are on their own, he's kind of busy with a dick pianist.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (NztoB)

422 I think maybe the cartels better take a time out.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (oziVZ)

423 Looks like Trump has reversed Obama's Iran policy.
Posted by: Jim

News Flash: Judge Boasberg issues an order demanding that all MOB bombs be recalled to the USA.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (NXz8h)

424 Aliens is a kick-ass movie.

Alien is something else entirely. Alien scared the crap out of me when I saw it in the theater, having no idea at all what was coming.

Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (ju/6W)

425 > They just admitted B2s to Guam was bullshit.
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Like I said... huge OPSEC win. Everyone... literally everyone was focused on 6 supposed B-2's heading to... "somewhere."

Left hook coming from ----> way the fuck over there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (Q4IgG)

426 Dr. T.

Yes it was. Very informal, with a lot of people there. She touched so many lives.

Three 'Rons from Arkansas also made it. I told two stories of Jewells45 that made her daughter and husband cry.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (u82oZ)

427 Trump: I'll decide in two weeks:

Iran: We will never surrender! Death to America!

Trump: Okayyyyyy!!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (5WDkb)

428 ABC just cut to commercial.

Probably to dry tears....

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (jvJvP)

429 The ghost of Gen. Schwarzkopf, "see the Hail Mary is a viable military strategy."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (b7rtK)

430 I was worried that Guam would tip over when they landed those B2’s there so I’m relieved that was misdirection

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (6RwsA)

431 I was under the impression the B-2's to Guam were a fake. It seemed to me we have the capability to fuel those things in the air. But, then again, President Trump kept saying, "two weeks." Which, in and of itself was kind of amusing.
-
Announcing them may have been deception.

Maybe they're round two, just in case.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (Dnobf)

432 Actually? There are two flying B-29's still out there. It would be beyond insulting if Trump had borrowed one to drop the bunker-buster.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (2myyY)
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I hope they DID use a flying B-29 during this operation if only because it would show the Mad Mullahs how impotent they really are.

And NOTHING shames a Muslim man more than pointing out he's worthless in the sack.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (IBQGV)

433 >>>In the event of Post Nuclear Apocalypse we immediately move to seize the studded leather clothing factories. It is known from the documentaries from the '80s that all post apocalyptic clothing will be studded leather.


Remember, if we get into Mad Max territory, don't spring for a motorcycle. Go for the Toyota Hilux or the nearest equivalent thereof. Greater personnel and firepower capacities per unit of gasoline.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (jGGMD)

434 -52 Americans held hostage for 444 days
-222 American Marines killed in Beirut
-Countless Americans killed and maimed by Iranian IEDs in Iraq
-Arming Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis.
-And new evidence indicating Iran was responsible for the Lockerbie bombing of PanAm Flight 103 and not Libya.

Not sorry. Not one bit. It should have been done decades ago. Thankfully President Trump had the courage to do so now.

Posted by: Black Eyed Peas at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (3ImbR)

435 Maybe we will see a US Russia alliance

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (IG7T0)

436 I just envisioned the flaming skull as Achmed the dead terrorist, with his head bandage in flames.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (XeU6L)

437 Size of the explosion caught by the satellite would be appropriately as big as a quarter of Qom. A city 1 million plus.

Holy shit.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (NwfFc)

438 351 Sadly, I couldn't make it to the MoMe. We're very short handed at work. Couldn't get the time off.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:17 PM
***
Bummer. We waved at you on our way home. Really!

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

439 Thank you ace....

Flaming Skulls warm my heart....

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (jvJvP)

440 Iran now saying all American civilians and military in the ME are legitimate targets.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice


Sure, taunt the guy that just blew up all your shit.

Think we've got another MOP for the 12th Imam's septic tank?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (DgGvY)

441 Those B-2s to Guam weren't just misdirection. They were a warning to China.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (i0F8b)

442 The Iranian regime is stupid. On the first night of strikes they should have targeted critical oil facilities throughout the Gulf with medium and short range missiles. Spike oil to $300 per barrel and watch the Western economies and war effort grind to a halt.

The Russians are useless. The Chinese can't or won't help you. If you're going to go down, take the rest of the world with you.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (JvRTK)

443 News Flash: Judge Boasberg issues an order demanding that all MOB bombs be recalled to the USA.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (NXz8h)
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Does he expect President Trump to drop them off at his house?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (IBQGV)

444 426 > They just admitted B2s to Guam was bullshit.
-----------
Like I said... huge OPSEC win. Everyone... literally everyone was focused on 6 supposed B-2's heading to... "somewhere."

Left hook coming from ----> way the fuck over there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:26 PM (Q4IgG)

Wow... playing the American MSM Media... who woulda even thunk of doin THAT?

Besides... oh.. wait... D. Trump for the last 12 or so years.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (mP0Kj)

445 Re illegals: Pelosi thinks they're Sparks of Divinity.
She's been quiet.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (oziVZ)

446 There are two Lancaster bombers in flying condition. A Lancaster can carry a 22,000lb Earthquake bomb.

I think it could have accommodated the GBU-57 very easily.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (b7rtK)

447 The OpSec was Brillant because Trump fired the Woke AF General who was CJSC and put in Rasin Cain.

Brillant move because that Woke CJCS AF General or Milley would have called the Ayatollah directly to warn the Ragheads.

Posted by: Ghost of George Patton at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (1RZQV)

448 It is going to take a long time to learn the consequences of all of this. Let's hope and pray that this has been the best move.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (XeU6L)

449 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

heh

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/)

450 The Russians are useless. The Chinese can't or won't help you. If you're going to go down, take the rest of the world with you.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (JvRTK)

Putin has already stated he has enough on his plate, and will not Militarily support Iran...

Couple days ago... very little media coverage

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (mP0Kj)

451 Iran

You already made every American in the Middle East a target.

I remember Beirut.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (b7rtK)

452 You want a sad face? Turn to Tachel Madcow.

She's having a bad day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (YvtIA)

453 I hope that puts an end to the Iranian nuclear ambition.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (rJ7Hd)

454 blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

Only the B-2 has the lift capacity and bomb-bay size to host the GBU-57. The electronics and certification is only for the B-2.

The B-1 is more for conventional bombs on a rotary dispenser as air support for an entire country like AF.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (u82oZ)

455 Dudes, those ‘pro-Iran’ rioters ‘storming’ Penn Station numbered about half the capacity of a single car of the C train. Penn station sees over 600k passengers per day. That protest wasn’t even a puss dot on the pimple of half an ass of a Penn Station subway rat.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (aeiyZ)

456 Diego is just a Hop-Skip-Jump from Iran.

Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (1RZQV)

457 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/)

The Trump legend grows

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (6RwsA)

458 450 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/


Cause you got a big mouth.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (rJ7Hd)

459 pro-iran rioters in penn station

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1936555667802014079
Posted by: ace
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Bongino has a post up - we said we were go ing to arrest the rock throwers etc - we've arrested 700 and we're not through-

Can't copy anything on this wretched ipad

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (DNJiU)

460 Tehran Tina sez "US Trump acted without constitutional authority and demands he be impeached."

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (NXz8h)

461 You can bet the Juntas in Cuber and Venezuela spincters are clenched.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (oziVZ)

462 1979 doesn't seem that long ago. I remember the Embassy hostage taking and the smug, arrogant demeanor of the kidnappers. I remember the video of Iranians in the streets gleefully stating 'US can not do anything'. I remember the marine barracks in Lebanon and the loss of so many fine young men.

Iran has been a pain in our a** for too long.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (QGaXH)

463 Trump did the Ole D'Day head fake and Iran got hit off guard.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (gAN4h)

464 FOX PENTAGON REPORTER: "In my 18 years at the Pentagon, I've never seen such operational security.

There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days."

With good reason, Jennifer. If they told you what they were planning, you and your media peers would have blabbed it all over creation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2025 09:25 PM (h7ZuX)
***

I wonder if there was a standing order: Nobody Orders Pizza!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (W/lyH)

465 Re illegals: Pelosi thinks they're Sparks of Divinity.
She's been quiet.
Posted by: torabora


She's drunk.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (5WDkb)

466 Prayers for our country, President Trump, VP Vance, their cabinet and every single American who wears military uniforms.

It needed to be done.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (6PCLE)

467 My old bouncers and the Lancasters were good in the day, but, by Jove, one of those MOPs would make a bloody shambles out of that Chinaman Three Gorges Dam.

Barnes Wallis, watching from engineer Heaven

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (gm9Sb)

468 I think it could have accommodated the GBU-57 very easily.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (b7rtK)

GBU-57 is 30k lbs.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (fpamp)

469 Have we heard from a District Judge whether this is OK?

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (vy0Ka)

470 The Russians are useless. The Chinese can't or won't help you. If you're going to go down, take the rest of the world with you.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:29 PM (JvRTK)

There has been only ONE country in history, that has been able to materially support allies when their own troop were at war... and that was the US in WW2.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (mP0Kj)

471 Three 'Rons from Arkansas also made it. I told two stories of Jewells45 that made her daughter and husband cry.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:27 PM (u82oZ)


That's good to hear. She was a sweet lady, and she had such an impact.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (jGGMD)

472 I was discussing the sleeper cell problem in the US with my wife. I told her, "Most likely, Iran has an top down command and control system for their sleeper cells and going rogue is probably frowned upon."

I also said, "Most likely, the people who give the orders to strike are now dead or on the run, so, it may not be as much of a problem as anticipated."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (tT6L1)

473 Six pack.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (tuLbh)

474 Burning skull time!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (W/lyH)

475 Well that about wraps it up for this tidy little war. Peace on earth once again.

Now back to our porn and alcohol.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (ERYKL)

476 LOL

DDayCobra ran a poll on his chat on whether they support Trump's decision, since they were 12-88 opposed three nights ago.

At 1000 votes, he's at 60-40 supporting.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (Dnobf)

477 The Pentagon ordered shawarma instead?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (b7rtK)

478 "They said the bombs are very accurate. They have GPS guidance in their noses and hit "within meters" of the target."

I can't imagine them having any GPS after initial penetration, nor how they know when to "detonate" (if that is what they do) ...but once they hit the target, perhaps guidance does not matter. ... I assume we have details on just how deep the facilities are based?

We need 8K video of the details .. cuz we are internet jockeys that only want to play along. heh.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (vbXSk)

479 Dinner Tonight is Microwaved Raghead CARCASS.....

Dinner is served on Time Mr. Ayatollah.....

Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (J7c+Z)

480 "In my 18 years at the Pentagon, I've never seen such operational security. There were NO LEAKS. NOBODY speaking about this. A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days."

Jennifer Griffin is pissed about this ^^^ no doubt.

Posted by: Black Eyed Peas at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (3ImbR)

481 Thanks, Salty! Hope all is well with you and yours!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (tT6L1)

482 When the B2 releases a 30,000 lb bomb, I assume it lurches upwards dramatically? Roller coaster ride!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (6RwsA)

483 Ugh.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (3ImbR)

484 The most followed plane on FlightRadar for the last half hour has been a USAF KC135T, flying into Saudi Airspace. Presumably, it was refueling the jets.

Posted by: Lee Also at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (IrqeV)

485 “ A lion has come out of his lair; a destroyer of nations has set out. He has left his place to lay waste your land. Your towns will lie in ruins without inhabitant.”

Jeremiah 4:7

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (39fkk)

486 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.


Cry for us, bitchez...

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (Riz8t)

487 I would just point out that 99.9% of Iran was not bombed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (u73oe)

488 A complete blackout on information about Iran at the Pentagon for the last few days.

Over the next two days, I expect some newly minted expert to claim that this level of secrecy is in violation of the Geneva Convention.

But I don't care about their hurt feelings.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (7xrfc)

489 Just turned on Fox. Levin is on screaming his brains out in celebration.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (IG2sK)

490 Great news. But it isn't over until islam is erased from the planet.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)

491 Rockers at Penn better play nice. Methinks FBI top brass are tired of being heckeld.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (DNJiU)

492 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.
_______
Which is why there were no leaks.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (od0dV)

493 I wonder if there was a standing order: Nobody Orders Pizza!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (W/lyH)


You'd think it would have occurred to somebody by now to put a pizzeria *inside* the Pentagon....

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (jGGMD)

494 478 The Pentagon ordered shawarma instead?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (b7rtK)

Gen Miley ordered them to do Take Out .. Chinese...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (mP0Kj)

495 Flash News: Governor Gavin Newsom declares California a Iranian nuclear weapons development sanctuary state.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (NXz8h)

496 Time to revive this Beach Boys parody:
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM


Needs more cowbell.

Posted by: THE Bruce Dickinson at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (0sNs1)

497 Head on a swivel the next few days in public, folks. That’s all I’m gonna say.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (39fkk)

498 The Pentagon ordered shawarma instead?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:33 PM (b7rtK)

Probably Chinese food.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (S/Y4j)

499 Dropping MOPs in sequence, two per B-2, was exactly what I thought they would have to do, to penetrate without nuclear ordinance. Thank God they could do it with MOPs!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (qgNn3)

500 I wonder if this will make Jose cry again.

Posted by: Splunge at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (ju/6W)

501 My guts says this was all planned. Just subterfuge by the US and Israel.

Israel was the opening act and we always planned to come in for the finale once they got complete air superiority.

I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)

502
You'd think it would have occurred to somebody by now to put a pizzeria *inside* the Pentagon....


Nope, that would also leak out. Give them all MREs.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (Riz8t)

503 I’m not kidding at all… Trump’s stature in my mind now outstrips even Reagan. He’s the greatest prez of my lifetime

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (6RwsA)

504 There are dems screaming for impeachment.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (zeLd4)

505 Dr. T

The Ground Zero Cafe in the courtyard of the Pentagon used to sell pizza by the slice. Don't know what today's status is.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (u82oZ)

506 A lot of former military who were serving in '79 are cheering.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (i0F8b)

507 Have we heard from a District Judge whether this is OK?

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (vy0Ka)

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BREAKING: US District Clown Judge Bozoberg Orders Trump to Turnaround The Planes, Bring the Dropped Bombs Back to the US, and to Rebuild the Iranian Nuclear Facilities. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (nXhai)

508 Well, the die is cast. Give it six months and we'll see where things stand. Things may look a bit different.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (MZ+PY)

509 I wonder if this will make Jose cry again.

Well, either this, or a paper cut. Something will.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (Riz8t)

510 Great news. But it isn't over until islam is erased from the planet.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)


I read a claim on Twitter yesterday that the average rate of regular mosque attendance in Iran is less than 12%, and even that's generous.

If the mullahs are overthrown, Iran may secularize in a hurry.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (jGGMD)

511 459 450 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

heh
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (cYBz/


Cause you got a big mouth.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (rJ7Hd)


The current crop of Democrats, who denounce all things nuclear, from nuclear powerplants to nuclear proliferation, talked big about not letting Iran get nuclear weapons. But tonight they are all butt hurt that a gonna-happen nuclear proliferation was ended by their enemy Drumpf. You cannot despise DEmocrats enough.

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (aBgBM)

512 Interesting. Sounds like Trump warned them one last time.

>>@EricLDaugh
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>>10m
🚨 BREAKING: The United States contacted Iran diplomatically today before the strikes, telling them regime change is not planned, and that the strikes were all that was planned - CBS

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (viF8m)

513 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

I'll be pounding the podium about this shortly.

Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)

514 NY Times headline: "U.S. Enters War With Iran"

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (36PRH)

515 Rachel Madcow is specifically mad that Trump doesn't like the Deep State IC

Now she has traitor Richard Hass on talking about how experts are being ignored. Then he grudgingly admits that, just maybe, there was good reason.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (B1a/Q)

516 @nicksortor
2h
🚨 #BREAKING: Pro Iran rioters have just STORMED Penn Station in NYC, and most of them are wearing face coverings
~~~~~

I am so sick of this crap.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (3ImbR)

517 491 Great news. But it isn't over until islam is erased from the planet.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)
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Netanyahu has already sent them a message to watch and see that Israel is not against the Iranian people.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (DNJiU)

518 >>>509 Well, the die is cast. Give it six months and we'll see where things stand. Things may look a bit different.

Keep on rooting for apocalypse just so you can win an argument on the internet, hero.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (KRtlO)

519 490 Just turned on Fox. Levin is on screaming his brains out in celebration.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:35 P

Dang, I missed that.

Hannity is on now. Mom LOVED Hannity. God bless her. I miss her.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (jvJvP)

520 505 There are dems screaming for impeachment.

Of course there are. It's an 80/20 issue, if not 90/10. They are very slow learners.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (Riz8t)

521 Thank God they could do it with MOPs!

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All you need is MOPS
All you need is MOPS
All you need is MOPS, MOPS
MOPS are all you need

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (dDmld)

522 I would just point out that 99.9% of Iran was not bombed.

Someone should tell Tater.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (0A/JS)

523 101 Wow, didn’t expect this today.

Yeah, can you guess who else didn't?!

Hint: fucking everybody.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (PQOq3)

524 The fourth and final horse is Wing Shaped, black and sleek, upon it rides Trump, accompanied by IDF Fighter CAPs

"He was given authority over the Persian Gulf, to kill with sword, famine, plague, bunker busters and by means of the Mullahs of the Iran !!!!.

Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (J7c+Z)

525 Just turned on Fox. Levin is on screaming his brains out in celebration.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:35 PM (IG2sK)

Hannity and Levin are apparently good friends. When they get together I wonder do they both talk at the same time with no listening by either man? What do the wives do at their dinner parties?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (6RwsA)

526 There is a pizzeria in the Pentagon. It just shuts down at night. Maybe they should rethink that?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (qgNn3)

527 i put up a thread for Trump's speech, which is scheduled for 10.

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (KRtlO)

528 Why is the KC-135T designation still being used? They were 56 KC-135As specifically modified to refuel the SR-71 and its JP-7, they were called KC-135Qs. When the CFM56 engines were installed all the Qs became Ts.

But we no longer have any SR-71s? Or do we?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (b7rtK)

529 1979 doesn't seem that long ago. I remember the Embassy hostage taking and the smug, arrogant demeanor of the kidnappers. I remember the video of Iranians in the streets gleefully stating 'US can not do anything'. I remember the marine barracks in Lebanon and the loss of so many fine young men.

Iran has been a pain in our a** for too long.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 09:32 PM (QGaXH)
***

I had a sergeant who was at the Embassy. I also knew one of the officers there.
A friend lost a brother in Lebanon.
Another list a busband.there.

We cannot know what tomorrow will bring, but tonight I feel a sense of...if not relief, then satisfaction.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (W/lyH)

530 According to X, top ranking Dem members of intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes but the Republicans were.

I'll be pounding the podium about this shortly.
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at June 21, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)


Giving the help a break, are we?

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (jGGMD)

531 I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)


Iran immediately said no. I suspect Trump would've waited if there was any positive response.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (uqyLy)

532 502 My guts says this was all planned. Just subterfuge by the US and Israel.

Israel was the opening act and we always planned to come in for the finale once they got complete air superiority.

I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)

Op was on Standby... been there... did that...

Then once the Iranians said they would not negotiate... it took 2 days after the go order to prosecute the plan.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (mP0Kj)

533 This was not a regime change strike. This was more narrow. "You will not have nuclear facilities. Either you remove them or we will. You didn't and wouldn't, so we did. Now we can resume discussions."

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (IQ6Gq)

534 > I wonder if there was a standing order: Nobody Orders Pizza!
Posted by: Diogenes
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There was a spike reported on "pizza orders" from the Pentagon last week. Maybe planning. Maybe horseshit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (Q4IgG)

535 Nope, that would also leak out. Give them all MREs.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM


There's got to be some C-Rats in storage somewhere.

The half-life on Ham and Lima Beans is at least 372,461 years.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (0sNs1)

536 Hannity is covering Levin now.

I'm going to take a bold stand and say that 24 hour news sucks.

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (jvJvP)

537 Gref

The Dems in Congress are false to their oath, and are essentially enemy combatants in sensitive positions. They want America to fail, Americans to die, and to siphon up as much money and services for themselves they can.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (u82oZ)

538 528 i put up a thread for Trump's speech, which is scheduled for 10.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (KRtlO)

Thanks boss

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (rJ7Hd)

539 The Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Khamenei just issued a blanket ban on the "Wonders Of Iran" traveling show from appearing in the USA.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (NXz8h)

540 Now it's up to the Iranian people to overthrow the mullahs. Barky McFuckstick did nothing when they rose up during his presidency and they were brutally put down. They're on ice Persians it's your time

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (IG2sK)

541 515 NY Times headline: "U.S. Enters War With Iran"
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (36PRH)
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Now edited to say "U.S. Enters War Against Itan". Hmmmm

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (36PRH)

542 Iran

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (36PRH)

543 So Trump is more Truman than Reagan...who should have flattened Tehran

Posted by: night lifted at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (FZn/N)

544 Nood. Trump presser thread.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (41CYW)

545 538 Gref

The Dems in Congress are false to their oath, and are essentially enemy combatants in sensitive positions. They want America to fail, Americans to die, and to siphon up as much money and services for themselves they can.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (u82oZ)


Yup

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (aBgBM)

546 @490 well, as long as he’s happy.

Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:42 PM (I1d1o)

547 There is a pizzeria in the Pentagon. It just shuts down at night. Maybe they should rethink that?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (qgNn3)


See, this is what I don't get. You're telling me that the DoD has to be stingy on the funding for pizza, of all things?

As that old MASH episode said, just get out the 4B/2-a requisition form and write in "pizza" where it says "machine gun."

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (jGGMD)

548 White house live stream for 10pm speech has been set up. It is coming from the WH and not MSM so there is no copyright issue with re-broadcasting it. The Enforcer says they will carry it.

https://www.youtube.com/live/LpzssWYim38

Apparently Bibi got a live feed of the attack from the US military secure network.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (uqyLy)

549 They raided an MWR fund of a could thousand bucks to order some pizzas. I bet the pizzas were then taken to a DC homeless shelter or two.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (b7rtK)

550 Now it's up to the Iranian people to overthrow the mullahs. Barky McFuckstick did nothing when they rose up during his presidency and they were brutally put down. They're on ice Persians it's your time

Mullahs swinging from lampposts would be an excellent start.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (0A/JS)

551 Trump illegally attacks the peace-loving Ayatollah with weapons of mass destruction just like the Romulans did to The Federation in the Neutral Zone.

The UN and a Hawaiian Judge calls for Trump to be hanged, drawn and quartered in Tehran Square.

Posted by: CNN BREaking News at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (J7c+Z)

552 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (tuLbh)

553 Of course there are. It's an 80/20 issue, if not 90/10. They are very slow learners.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:39 PM (Riz8t)

If you were to believe a user that goes by a single letter - Trump's decision is a 90% oppose.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (VJVnS)

554 Well, the die is cast. Give it six months and we'll see where things stand. Things may look a bit different.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
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This

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (XeU6L)

555 My guts says this was all planned. Just subterfuge by the US and Israel.

Israel was the opening act and we always planned to come in for the finale once they got complete air superiority.

I don't buy the two weeks nonsense.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2025 09:37 PM (rJ7Hd)

---------------

"DEZINFORMATSIYA! Putin, you magnificent bastard -- is there ANYTHING you can't do?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (nXhai)

556 Al Jazeera is reporting that the USA government is in a full blown state of confusion and has put all American troops and assets at risk of imminent destruction.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 09:44 PM (NXz8h)

557 >>>I can't imagine them having any GPS after initial penetration, nor how they know when to "detonate"
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They're smart bombs.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (DNJiU)

558 I’ll bet my pastor is busy rewriting his Sunday morning sermon to reference “current events”. In the evening service we are just finishing the Book of Esther, where Heman is obsessed with the obliteration of all Jews in Persia. Heman is about due for his comeuppance. Sunday evening service is going to be fun!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (qgNn3)

559 The Dems in Congress are false to their oath, and are essentially enemy combatants in sensitive positions. They want America to fail, Americans to die, and to siphon up as much money and services for themselves they can.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (u82oZ)


If I had any balls, I'd make this the leader for my American History classes. And then look for a new job.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (jGGMD)

560 468, LOL!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (alnxS)

561 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (tuLbh)

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Make Tactical Nukes Great Again For Once!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (nXhai)

562 As a Bomb Connoiseur, I am super impressed by the bang factor of these !

Posted by: Rachel Zegler at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (yjTHn)

563 I like how Trump's statement is "everything is good now, sleep well tonight."

Trump is supposed to speak here in a bit. I guarantee it won't be fake tough guy Obama style.

If he says, "I did not seek prior approval for this act from a federal judge--although I'm sure there as some who want to demand I do so." -- all the LOLs

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (zwX/r)

564 Well, the die is cast.

I said it best: "Iacta alia est"

This being a Smart Military Blog, the regulars will translate it without help.

Posted by: GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (0sNs1)

565 Oh, man.

Wife and daughter went to England on a long-planned celebration vacation. (She turned 60.)

They're in London now. I'll pray that they don't get caught up in a protest tomorrow.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (p/isN)

566 553 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

"BLOW JOB".................... "EAT ME"..............

Posted by: Donny T. at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (J7c+Z)

567 >It is going to take a long time to learn the consequences of all of this. Let's hope and pray that this has been the best move.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 09:30 PM (XeU6L)

Best take of the night. Far better than the splooging over the decision and the endless "ur an antisemite" NPC talking points.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (CDb2z)

568 Lindsey Graham wins. Yay!

Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (I1d1o)

569 Props to Netanyahu. He has worked relentlessly for decades to bring down the Iranian theocratic regime.

Now, it appears he is on the precipice of doing it.

He will be a historic figure.

Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (r2ymA)

570 > "I guess the Commando Raid is off."

No ground troops, please.

This situation is volatile enough as it is.

Posted by: Just reporting at June 21, 2025 09:47 PM (/I9MF)

571 553 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

Thanks for the heads up. We'll send the B-2s back after they get more bombs.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (Riz8t)

572 553 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.

Well they would, wouldn’t they?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (qgNn3)

573 Best take of the night. Far better than the splooging over the decision and the endless "ur an antisemite" NPC talking points.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 21, 2025 09:46 PM (CDb2z)

It's no logical leap to make when you oppose this decision, you endorse Iran having and using nuclear weapons against Jews.

So pardon us for coloring between the lines you draw.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (VJVnS)

574 When the Iranian government falls, who do you think is going to restore order? The Europeans?

"I don't really care, Margaret."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (/y8xj)

575 553 Iran said no major damage at Fordow.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:43 PM (tuLbh)

How about Catastrophic damage ?

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 09:48 PM (yjTHn)

576 This one Toyotathon I will never forget.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (tuLbh)

577
·
38m
JUST IN — President Trump tells Hannity 6 Bunker Buster bombs and 30 submarine-launched Tomahawk missiles took out Iran’s nuclear sites
Hannity confirms 30 Tomahawk missles from US submarines also used to bomb Iran.
https://tinyurl.com/hhxspedm

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (gAN4h)

578 >>> Lindsey Graham wins. Yay!
Posted by: Allen

it's literally all about palace intrigue and winning internet arguments with you guys, huh?

Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (KRtlO)

579 >>>I can't imagine them having any GPS after initial penetration, nor how they know when to "detonate"
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They're smart bombs.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:45 PM (DNJiU)

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I grok that they are AI Bombs!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (nXhai)

580 @566 there were anti regime protests in London by Iranian expatriates. There might be violence between the pro Hamas crowd and the Iranians but the rest should be ok.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (IG2sK)

581 The 180,000 pounds of high explosives didn't take.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 09:50 PM (tuLbh)

582 I am going to turn on Newsmax on the telly at 10.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (qgNn3)

583 Donny 'Two Terms' appears to be settling all the family business.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (sp5rp)

584 Rick Madcow is displaying a huge frown frown face tonight. Signalling to her dupes to have the sadz. I am confident she will begin her next show with some false parable about a past event that tells her dupes they are doomed because of what Drumpf did. So, get angry, my dupes!

Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (aBgBM)

585 It’s about reality Ace. I hope to see you there again.

Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 09:51 PM (EZ6e+)

586 The 180,000 pounds of high explosives didn't take.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Is this the part where the United States bombs just to see the rubble bounce?

Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (TfUTr)

587
🎵
Happi-NESS is a big MOP
(bang bang shoot shoot)

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (AOsQT)

588 I will take the tablet in with me, so I can glance at the thread while I’m listening to our president.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (qgNn3)

589 ace

Ban EZ6e+ to increase the signal to noise ratio.
Please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (u82oZ)

590 Iran will retaliate by throwing fifty gays off of roofs
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Well, they do have a point...
Whatever happens after keep Globohomo out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 09:54 PM (/lPRQ)

591 While fighting a two front war, 15 million men (and women) in uniform and deployed worldwide, and supplying the Soviet Union with all manner of trucks, planes, trains, radios, food supplies, POL, everything down to sewing needles

They also ran the Manhattan project. Huge top secret reservations in Oak Ridge, Hanford, and los Alamos. Oak Ridge alone employed 80,000 skilled people in construction, and welding. Amazing.

They did learn you can’t pile enriched Uranium up in barrels too closely. Nobody hardly knew what they were actually making. A couple physicists on a walk through about had a heart attack.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 09:55 PM (0mY7E)

592 Payback is a etc. etc.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (jAG+j)

593 "Hannity is covering Levin now.

I'm going to take a bold stand and say that 24 hour news sucks."

I'd rather take a cheese grater to my dick than listen to Mark Levin. Even if I do agree with him.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 21, 2025 09:56 PM (JvRTK)

594 505 There are dems screaming for impeachment.
Posted by: Mr Gaga



They never stopped.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (PGK1w)

595 whitehouse dot gov slash live

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 09:58 PM (AOsQT)

596 President Trump and I often say: 'Peace through strength.'
First comes strength, then comes peace.
And tonight, president Trump and United States acted with a lot of strength.
_Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (DNJiU)

597 Kind of like the bombs in Dark Star.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:59 PM (63Dwl)

598 It was Feynman that inspected the way the enriched uranium was being stored and saw the danger and came up with the plan to store the U-235 safely.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (qgNn3)

599 Lindsey Graham wins. Yay!
Posted by: Allen

it's literally all about palace intrigue and winning internet arguments with you guys, huh?
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (KRtlO)

Well, anytime Lindsey Graham "enters" it becomes suspect.

Posted by: Thart at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (r2ymA)

600 The trolls are mewling about reality yet so far from it. Sad.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:00 PM (PGK1w)

601 It was Feynman that inspected the way the enriched uranium was being stored and saw the danger and came up with the plan to store the U-235 safely.
Posted by: Nemo
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At Oak Ridge, if I recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (XeU6L)

602
So. The Dildo of Consequences has arrived in Iran.

The Iranian people are almost unaffected (yeah, there have been blackouts, and massive traffic jams, but almost NO dead bodies).

The Iranian Government, however, at the very least, now sees the value of being heavily pre-lubed. I wonder if Khameni, after riding the elevator down, had "The Last in Line" playing on loop.

The Iranian Government has stated that the knowledge of how to build nuclear weapons cannot be erased. They are about to find out that building a bomb has always been a case of time and money. How long to replace all of the facilities, equipment and personnel? WIll the Iranian people suffer again to finance nuclear weapons?

I expect very many nuclear scientists and technicians in the pay of Iran to disappear, very permanently, in the next 6 months, and no one will answer the job ads.

We do not have "Peace in Our Time" (thanks Europe), but we do not face the likelihood of 50,000+ casualties from an Iranian nuclear weapon in the next 25 or so years.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (FlRtG)

603 Alight you sons a bitches

now you know how I feel

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2025 10:06 PM (AOsQT)

604 85 Iran could have used all the money spent of terrorism and nuclear bomb programs to make Iran a glittering jewel of a country.

Sucks to be them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (u82oZ)

The number I here is $5T
About what LBJ spent to kill the black family.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (gbOdA)

605 Feynman was sent to Oak Ridge after a harried phone call to higher ups, by one of the local employees who had some idea what the issue was. Wood floors act as a moderator. The shape of the barrels was wrong, they were haphazardly stacked, different rooms, yet next to each other via walls, etc. a real mess!

Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2025 10:07 PM (B+LEV)

606 Short reassuring address by the president. Let’s see how further events unfold.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:12 PM (qgNn3)

607 The Mullahs will get back to it unless the Mullahs are overthrown, and say the son of the late shah is reinstated as the new shah in say a constitutional monarchy. That’s up to the Persians!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:17 PM (qgNn3)

608 No war. Middle east interventionalism has been a disaster and this won't be any different.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (oaXrE)

609 This was not a regime change strike. This was more narrow. "You will not have nuclear facilities. Either you remove them or we will. You didn't and wouldn't, so we did. Now we can resume discussions."
Posted by: TRex

While your people themselves change the regime.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 10:28 PM (/lPRQ)

610 The summer anime season is coming to a close. A lot of finales and penultimate episodes posting tonight as well as halfway points for double cours series. I am going to try looking at some of them before the day is done!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (qgNn3)

611 Anne Shirley, the animation of Anne of Green Gables, has been amusing. I have only watched up to the episode where she tries to dye her red hair black. Poor thing! I suppose it will grow back soon enough, and now she won’t hate her red hair the way she used to!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (qgNn3)

612 No war. Middle east interventionalism has been a disaster and this won't be any different.

Posted by: ghost of kari at June 21, 2025 10:21 PM (oaXrE)

You may not be interested in war but war is interested in you.

This is different because this will not be some neocon adventure. You are a Trump Originalist, wait and see.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (E0p3T)

613 Saturday night's all right for fighting.

Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (1j1nn)

614 598 It was Feynman that inspected the way the enriched uranium was being stored...

What I read was that he felt he had been over-sold but had to prove his value, so he pointed at a random valve on the diagram and asked "What happens if this valve fails?!"

The engineers looked at the piping diagram and said "Holy shit!!"

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (PQOq3)

615 It was a mostly peaceful blowing the fuck out of them.

Posted by: Ronzoni at June 22, 2025 12:30 AM (tof4A)

616 I have missed the flaming skull. I love the flaming skull.

Posted by: LibertyDefenderq at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (uRRHh)

617 Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?

It does now.


Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM

June 22nd. Iran is 6 1/2 hours ahead of EDT. So if bombs were dropped on June 21st 8:30pm EDT, that is June 22nd 3am Iran time.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 11:34 AM (P5BPp)

618 Does June 21st have any significance in Islam?

It does now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM

June 22nd. Iran is 6 1/2 hours ahead of EDT. So if bombs were dropped on June 21st 8:30pm EDT, that is June 22nd 3am Iran time.


Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 11:34 AM

June 27th is the Islamic New Year:

The first day of Muharram 2025, which marks the start of the Islamic New Year, is expected to be Friday, June 27, 2025. This date is based on astronomical calculations and the expected sighting of the new moon, according to the Moon-Sighting Committee of the Council of Shia Muslim Scholars in North America. The sighting of the new moon determines the start of each Islamic month.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 22, 2025 11:39 AM (P5BPp)

619 i hope people understand that the iranians and their proxies aren`t going to meet us on a battlefield.....there are 10 to 20 million anonymous "new americans" roaming the country......

we`d better think about battening down our water and food supplies.....secure our hospitals.....our power grid.......

the second shoe is going to drop at some point...stop high 5-ing for a second and start thinking about what`s coming..

Posted by: jay marks at June 22, 2025 12:17 PM (ruExs)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning

We saw a lot of good and interesting movies this past fortnight-and-a-half. Bring Her Back, a melancholy horror from the makers of Talk To The Hand, er, Talk To Me; the romantic Lost In Starlight; the 25th anniversary of Dogma (about which I have much to say); the 30th anniversary of Eat Drink Man Womanl Wes Anderson's Wesandersony The Phoenician Scheme; the French Kung-Fu Giant Penis Farce Zenithal; and the picaresque coming-of-age apocalyptic survival horror 28 Years Later.

I can recommend all of them to people who like those sorts of things.

But I shan't review them today. Today I want to talk about changes in the movie biz, vis a vis how relates to your nearly 29-year-old correspondent. If we go back 45 years ago (there will be no math), we might find your humble moviegique didn't just see the top 20 movies, he saw 90% of all the movies that were released.

I didn't see them all in the theater, admittedly. I wasn't so adamantly anti-watching-movies-on-TV back then, and it wouldn't have been an option to see them in the theater once they'd past their second run.

In 2010, I still saw most of the top 20. By 2020, I'd seen two of the top 20. And there's a near 0% chance I will see the ones I "missed".

In other words, whatever mojo Hollywood had over me, it lost it five years ago. Yaboi Zack is on a year-plus long rant against "birthday party clowns" (as he calls them): People who gained fame and fortune by bashing popular culture and now can't do anything else. They can't admit when something is good.

Of course, simply redirecting my entertainment dollars to stuff I like allows me to avoid having to grouse constantly. But I do think it's important to call out when things are good. Not because Hollywood is getting better (his thesis). It's not, at least in any way that matters: Any industry stays centralized and powerful because of the virtuous cycle of talent attracting money creating power which attracts more talent and more money and more power. My thesis is that Hollywood's degraded to the vicious version of the cycle: They lost talent, they lost money, they lost power, and this is accelerating.

Hollywood is Carthage. It's Detroit. It's Joe Biden.

That doesn't mean it has no lucid moments, of course.

This brings me to Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning.

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Tom Cruise with long hair and bangs gives me Neal Breen vibes.

Cruise Control (I Just Made That Up!)


The decline of Hollywood is interesting. After Dogma, I pointed out to the Boy that while it has an eighth grade theology and a fair amount of clunkers and it presaged and probably created the uber-nerd model of dialogue and humorous references, it was still better than most movies today for two reasons: First, it never loses sight of its goal, which is to be entertainment. Second, it's chock full of characters that are real and different. (And this is kind of funny, because everyone in a Kevin Smith movie talks like Kevin Smith and more or less has his point of view, and in Dogma, most of them aren't even supposed to be mortal humans.)

Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning—the movie series that has to use a hyphen for its sequels, because it's got a colon in its base name—never loses sight of its goal (entertainment), and additionally uses its history and creativity (!) to fill itself with new and past characters that are more than just plot devices or representation tokens.

All while being pretty damn "representative".

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When you order Angela Bassett on Temu.

President Angela Basset gives Ethan (Cruise, duh) this (final?) mission. Apparently he acquired the MacGuffin in the previous film (which I didn't see) that will allow him to stop the evil, omnipotent AI that plans to wipe out humanity because (duh) it figures that's the best way to end global strife or something. But since it ostensibly also could grant control over the evil, omnipotent AI, every government and rogue agency in the world wants it, too.

The AI isn't much of a presence in this film—it's basically manipulating humans, including Ethan—which is kind of a shame on the one hand, but actually one of the many good choices the movie makes. Why? Because there's already a ton of plot here. Don't want the plot gettin' in the way of the story, as Joe Bob Briggs would say. (I think it's the reverse, but that's a semantic argument.) The AI is basically represented by Esai Morales' Gabriel, who fulfills the very important concept that The Villain Has To Be Someone You Can Punch In The Nose.

Before the AI can carry out its plan, it needs to do two things: Take control of all the world's nuclear arsenal, which it's about 80% of the way there when this movie starts, and hole up in a super-secret-protected bunker which has a sophisticated computer setup and all the world's digitized knowledge. (Furry porn will survive the apocalypse! Yay?)

So the deal is that Ethan has to escape U.S. capture (or convince the President) to let him go rogue one last time, find a way to get to the AI's source code, which is on the bottom of the ocean in highly contested waters—all the powers of the earth are on edge and aggressively patrolling their spheres—and be there in the split second when the AI has control of everything but before it can transfer itself to the bunker.

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The actors on realizing they're doing a shot from Svalbard, where the residents fly to Iceland to get warm.

 

What's It All About, Ethan?


None of this makes a lick of sense, and that's okay.

Seriously, you could find good ways to rationalize all these things and it would still be nonsense and you just spent 15 minutes of your action movie babbling things nobody understands anyway.

The point is, we're selling this plotline with a bunch of competing deadline clocks. How long can Ethan hold his breath? Can Benji (Simon Pegg) stay conscious long enough to walk the distaff half of the crew through writing a .BAT file? Is the latent attraction Grace (Hayley Atwell) has for Ethan required to get her killed?

There's so much action in this movie, several sequences are just left out. An early scene, played for laughs, has Ethan thrashing baddies while Grace watches, horrified. We only see her expressions, and when Ethan reappears on screen, he's comically disarrayed with blood all over him. They had just discussed the need to use violence as a last resort and when she looks at Cruise questioningly he just says "They threatened you!"

Which is true, but nonetheless amusing. There's a later scene where three of the characters have to run from an exploding bomb to a shelter and...yeah, not there. This surprised me at first, but it makes sense. Nobody's going to come out of this complaining: "Hey, how did those relatively minor characters make it?"

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Pom Klementieff (Guardian of the Galaxy's Mantis) speaks only French in this film.

The references to past entries are judicious. I know there are fanatics of this series, but I've seen 1, 2, 4, 5 and now 8. I may have some of those numbers wrong, even. And what's more, I'd be temped to say my favorite (even now) is John Woo's #2 entry, which is widely regarded as the worst. An interviewer tried to bait Cruise into trashing Woo, and of course he handled it like a pro, talking about how much he enjoyed working with the Hong Kong action master, whom I think he was responsible for bringing aboard.

Point is, it's fine. I'm sure it's chock full of Easter Eggs for the real fanatic. I did not feel like I'd missed out on much having missed some of the movies and only ever watching any of them precisely once.

So, the baseline for an M:I movie is to have stunts that still manage to wow the audience in an age of CGI. This movie delivers that in spades. It knows what it's doing. The hacks of the action biz think the key is to constantly amp everything up. Ultimately, however, this just numbs the viewer. M:I 8 ends with a fight on a biplane—positively James Bond ca. 1970.

In fact, in a very early scene, Grace and Ethan are captured, and we all know how this has to go: Ethan doesn't care what you do to him, but he's very sensitive to the harm done to others. (Hacks say it's hard to write for Superman, not realizing that all action heroes are Superman.) While this movie does a good job of making it seem like Ethan might die, it also imperils a lot of other interesting characters we also don't want to see die!

The essence of action is caring. Weird but true!

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Blocking? In an action flick?! Seriously, the camerawork is terrific: Not frantically moving around like they're afraid you'll be bored, and willing to use the visual language.

Above and Beyond


Beyond the baseline action, we have Cruise, who has turned Action Man into Acting Man, both here and in Top Gun: Maverick. We have Ving Rhames back—the only one besides Cruise to be in all the movies, I think. And when Ethan, who has killed many, many men, has to reflect on whether he's been a force for good or evil over three decades, the occasional insertion of shots from previous movies resonates without feeling like a crutch.

A minor character from the first re-appears here and is both a major plot point and a fully developed character which reinforces the point: Action Man is a force for good. There are casualties, but that's more the roll of the dice. There's a callback to the Jon Voight Jim Phelps from the first movie, too, but it doesn't go the way you might expect.

This is really a kind of road picture, and when Ethan meets someone, neither he nor you knows whether that person is going to support the mission or betray it. And perhaps even more interestingly, you don't know why. Everyone has their own backstory, and we're not privvy to it. There's something hugely artistically validating about this overarching idea of all of us being individuals making our own choices for own reasons.

Wow. Storytelling. How does it work?

This may point to the problem with Hollywood generally: Where it began with working class adventurers and evolved into artists sincerely trying to understand and depict the human condition, now it views itself as the focus and all of us supporting players in its own "heroic" journey. I am confident Mr. Cruise understands the audience is the point, the raison d'être, of art.

I found myself impressed. It's a good movie. It earns its two hour, fifty minute runtime, which is about the nicest thing I could say of any 170 minute film.

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"I can't keep jumping out of planes! I'm gonna be 63 in two weeks!"

P.S. For a geriatric action hero, Cruise is way more convincing than Liam Neeson and Harrison Ford were at his age.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:30 PM




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1 Good evening, movie lovers.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:35 PM (asXVI)

2 Hi there

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2025 07:37 PM (vm8sq)

3 Dolley and I almost saw this.

So there's that.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 07:42 PM (Plbvm)

4 I enjoyed MI immensely. I saw on an IMAX screen and I felt it was worth the extra bucks I paid. Fun movie.

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 07:42 PM (lJ0H4)

5 Gabriels link to ethan should have been spelled out it was promised with dead reckoning the opening seem to start three times

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr)

6 I think I killed the thread.

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 07:46 PM (lJ0H4)

7 Blocking? In an action flick?! Seriously, the camerawork is terrific: Not frantically moving around like they're afraid you'll be bored, and willing to use the visual language
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So, it's like if Ozu had made an action movie.

Is Tom Cruise trying to convince his daughter to marry through the whole thing?

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 07:47 PM (Plbvm)

8 One assumes they were apprehended in the austrian alps after the last ending

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 07:48 PM (bXbFr)

9 How did the entity end up on the Russian sub

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 07:50 PM (bXbFr)

10 Bombs down in Iran? Trump just posted strikes on 3 sites in Iran.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 21, 2025 07:52 PM (idFFX)

11 That thing happened.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 07:53 PM (tuLbh)

12 I found "Alien" and most Alien movies on Disney+.

I've never seen the first movie. So I think I will see that now.

And as you heard, President Trump rules.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 07:55 PM (jvJvP)

13 || Is Tom Cruise trying to convince his daughter to marry through the whole thing?

Ethan Hunt has no family. That's kinda of his backstory. Which is another way of saying "I don't get this reference."

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|| 8 One assumes they were apprehended in the austrian alps after the last ending

You're thinking of "Sound of Music".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI)

14 Bombs away!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (l0yA3)

15 Thx movigique. I've only seen the first MI. Enjoyed it , will eventually get around to the rest

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (IG2sK)

16 9 How did the entity end up on the Russian sub

Its "source code" was on the Russian sub. Apparently nobody uses Github.

As far as I could follow it, the deal was, access to the source code allowed them to create the prison/trap for The Entity.

Which allowed them to do it because...uh...it knew that they knew that they would have to let it into the bunker to trap it, which is what it wanted.

Uh. Look, it's fine.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (asXVI)

17 Not gonna threadjack, but check your news feed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (u73oe)

18 Two weeks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (tuLbh)

19 You're thinking of "Sound of Music".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI

Mom was a nun for 14 years. I saw that movie at least 12 times.

And I haven't seen a huge number of movies. Small farming community in Canada. It was an event to get to the movie theatre.

Sadly once to see "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot!" Rip Estelle.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 07:59 PM (jvJvP)

20 15 Thx movigique. I've only seen the first MI. Enjoyed it , will eventually get around to the rest

The general break down is that the first one is pretty good, the second one is awful, the third one is passable, then Brad Bird takes over, and they peak, and then McQuarrie takes over and they're pretty good again.

Apparently the last one was the best? IDK.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:59 PM (asXVI)

21 Uh. Look, it's fine.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)

Best not to dwell on the little details. Just go with the flow.

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 08:00 PM (lJ0H4)

22 15 Thx movigique. I've only seen the first MI. Enjoyed it , will eventually get around to the rest
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (IG2sK)

I think they are "free" on some sites.

I thought PlutoTV.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:00 PM (jvJvP)

23 Well, IDK, we don't HAVE to talk about the bombing run, right?

We could talk movies.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:01 PM (asXVI)

24 Trump bombed Fordow.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 21, 2025 08:01 PM (/U7tb)

25 If Mel Brooks is going to make Spaceballs 2, it batter have Lewis Pullman as Lone Star's son. It doesn't even have to be funny. I mean, Lewis looks like his dad Bill, right?

Otherwise, are they even trying?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (QRzWH)

26 Boom boom boom boom.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (jRVrw)

27 Frodo Lives. Not.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (tuLbh)

28 Marco Rubio just reposted a trump announcement that the remaining nuclear facilities in Iran have been eliminated by American aircrews.

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (uTp11)

29 I've never been much of a Tom Cruise fan. But I do admire his work ethic. He truly loves his job. And you can tell. But my favorite of his was Les Grossman in Tropic Thunder, mostly because it took me nearly half the movie to recognize him.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 08:02 PM (0aYVJ)

30 Some weeks are longer than others.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:03 PM (tuLbh)

31 B2 or not B2. That is the question.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (tuLbh)

32 Thanks for a great write up, Gique. I've been meaning to drag my butt to the theater for a month, but sloth is my summer vice.

This piece ties in nicely to my current read, "The Future Was Now: Madmen, Mavericks, and the Epic Sci-Fi Summer of 1982" by Chris Nashawaty. It's about the year that gave us E.T., Tron, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kan, Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, and The Road Warrior.

I saw EVERY ONE of these, some multiple times, in addition to other films that year. I'd walk down into town from base to a wonderful old movie palace and bask in the glow.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)

33 There is no greater action hero than Donald Trump, M:I8 I ran, They died

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:05 PM (IG7T0)

34 Watching Shatner’s Mystery of the Gods

I’m convinced.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (Vh9CX)

35 So, for no reason whatsoever, what are the best movies about US bombing crews facing adversity while on their way to bombing the crap out of some nasty people?

There HAS to be a few.

None made this century, but still...

There has to be a few.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (jvJvP)

36 Sounds like Fordow is lit!

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (y6J3A)

37 Cruise is great in "Tropic Thunder". I thought he was kinda snubbed by the Academy for "Rain Man". He's also great in "Magnolia".

https://moviegique.com/2018/02/magnolia-1999/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (asXVI)

38 Let's keep on topic to movigiques post.

Please.

*hefts banhammer over shoulder*

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (Plbvm)

39 I was a little disappointed that Esai Morales wasn't as engaging a character as he was in MI7, but overall hubby and I liked the movie.

There were some elements where you had to suspend disbelief way beyond anything you had ever done before (using a chainsaw to cut through Arctic ice to open up a hole to the water below, surviving in said arctic water for more than a second with nothing but bare skin showing, etc.), but it WAS entertaining!

And I have always been a big Tom Cruise fan (the fact that hubs kinda looks like him doesn't hurt). The man knows what audiences want in their blockbusters, and he consistently delivers.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 08:06 PM (SRRAx)

40 Uh. Look, it's fine.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 07:58 PM (asXVI)
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Just let the Art flow over you, man. 🍿

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:07 PM (kpS4V)

41 I really liked Memphis Belle.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:07 PM (tuLbh)

42 E.T., Tron, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kan, Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, and The Road Warrior.
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Yeah, hell of a list. I'm not an "E.T." fan and "The Thing" flopped but just gets better every year.

Meanwhile "Conan" and "Road Warrior" dominated B-movies for the next ten years. That is, every giallo, every low-budget goon with access to a camera and a girl who would take her top off, ripped off one of those two flicks to make a movie.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:08 PM (asXVI)

43 Thx movigique. I've only seen the first MI. Enjoyed it , will eventually get around to the rest
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 07:57 PM (IG2sK)

If you saw the first one, you've already seen the rest.

No but seriously, it's a formula. Not unlike a porno, you know going in what you're getting, and what you're there for. If that's what you like, that's what you're getting.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (H4w1S)

44 The Friends of Eddie Coyle 1973

Terrific Robert Mitchum noir. He plays a low level criminal the ultimatly gets betrayed.

Pair this with The Drop, another betrayal saga, and you might end the night not trusting your mother.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (w/5xj)

45 By dawns early light because rebecca demornay

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (bXbFr)

46 Final Reckoning sounds like a pretty poor knock-off/mash-up of The Forbin Project and War Games with zero understanding of the underlying premises of these two movies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:09 PM (b7rtK)

47 Is this the final Mi??

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (y6J3A)

48 Since I have not seen any Mission Impossible movies I am not qualified to comment on this topic. Although I will say Tom Cruise holds no appeal for me.

I am qualified to comment on "Village Of The Damned" which I am watching on Svengoolie at this very moment. So far it's got Bobbies on bicycles.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (vFG9F)

49 So, for no reason whatsoever, what are the best movies about US bombing crews facing adversity while on their way to bombing the crap out of some nasty people?
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Dr. Strangelove?

The movie Strangelove beat to the theater box office, making nuclear war a joke? What was that one? "Tough Decision"? "Hard R"? ... Dammit... uh....FAIL SAFE!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (asXVI)

50 10 Bombs down in Iran? Trump just posted strikes on 3 sites in Iran.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 21, 2025 07:52 PM (idFFX)


Maybe Trump was just waiting for an AoS post about a Tom Cruise movie. Seems fitting.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (hOOi9)

51 [There is only one Memphis Belle movie, the original World War II one.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (b7rtK)

52 Good evening everyone
I liked the original TV shows so watch when free the movies. Can't say the best but still watch them when they are on.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (+qU29)

53 Dr Strangelove

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (IG7T0)

54 Fail Safe starring Henry Fonda.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:12 PM (b7rtK)

55 If you saw the first one, you've already seen the rest.
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Oh, no, not at all.

The first one is lone wolf. The second one is John Woo, and unlike anything else ever made (except other John Woo films, like "Face/Off"). The third one brings back the ensemble and, yeah, you could say they're the same from there on.

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Final Reckoning sounds like a pretty poor knock-off/mash-up of The Forbin Project and War Games
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Maverick : Star Wars :: The Final Reckoning : Lord of the Rings

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (asXVI)

56 There is only one Memphis Belle movie, the original World War II one.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:11 PM (b7rtK)

They also made a porno version.

It bombed.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (H4w1S)

57 Flight of the Intruder?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (1m82a)

58 Did anyone see Fordow Fairlane?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (tuLbh)

59 The great thing about "Road Warrior" was it combined art house with grind house.

Miller shot guerrilla-style, without permits, and hired real bikers who'd do real stunts for cases of beer.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:13 PM (kpS4V)

60 Fail safe was kind of cynical we would nuke ny to make uo for the nuking of moscoe

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)

61 I am waiting for the Golan Globus essay. They even got an episode on 60 Minutes.

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (IG7T0)

62 47 Is this the final Mi??

This is the word, yes. And it's a fine end to the series.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (asXVI)

63
TACO!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (QnmlO)

64 Very earnest whereas strangelove has its absurd touches

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)

65 I went to the Final Reckoning for the philosophy and stayed for the explosions. With that in mind: Double Plus Good.

It seems Cruise is the last person in Hollywood that knows summer movies, by definition, deliver the wow and middle class hetro values but with guns, explosions, and stunts.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (w/5xj)

66 62 Fail safe was kind of cynical we would nuke ny to make uo for the nuking of moscoe

Oh, they did a "Fail Safe" here, too.

President Bassett has to decide whether to nuke the rest of the world to keep the Evil Omnipotent AI from nuking the whole world.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (asXVI)

67 So, for no reason whatsoever, what are the best movies about US bombing crews facing adversity while on their way to bombing the crap out of some nasty people?
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When I was a kid, I loved 633 Squadron. OK, OK, they're not Yanks but Limeys flying Mosquitoes led by a Canuck.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (L/fGl)

68 Adolescence of P-1 had the program move itself into a secure facility. Only to prove that no castle, no matter how well built, can withstand a military force ready to accept any causalities in order to accomplish the mission.

As for the source code on a Russian submarine, the US Navy already has the solution - the nuclear depth charge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:15 PM (b7rtK)

69 69 Say it ain't so.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:16 PM (tuLbh)

70 This is the word, yes. And it's a fine end to the series.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:14 PM (asXVI)

I'm looking forward to the new Mission Impossible series.

With Phoebe Waller-Bridge as Ethan Hunt, and Pedro Pascal as her sidekick.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2025 08:17 PM (aFwXl)

71 I am waiting for the Golan Globus essay. They even got an episode on 60 Minutes.
Posted by: Accomack

OMG them and Roger Corman are America cinema heros.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:17 PM (w/5xj)

72 That guy that was in Home Alone just did something.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (tuLbh)

73 "Ya Boi Zack" has lost his marbles IMHO. I have no problem with the "birthday party clown" argument, but that's about the only rational argument he makes these days. His commenters are a SJW clown party.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (36PRH)

74 So far it's got Bobbies on bicycles.
Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:10 PM (vFG9F)

Two by two
Westminster Abby
The Tower Big Ben
The rosy red cheeks of the little children

England Swings

(Dad was a Roger Miller fan)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 08:18 PM (0aYVJ)

75 How about "12:00 High"?

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (vFG9F)

76 @20 should be like the Star Trek movies odd ones meh , even ones excellent

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (IG2sK)

77 I guess Trump and the Pentagon kept the zampolits from learning anything while they were designing the next US Navy officer's uniform.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (b7rtK)

78 Today Obama and Jarrett CRYYYYYY

CRY BITCHES CRY

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 08:20 PM (E0p3T)

79 So, we uh, bombed Iran....

On topic, I don't care for Tom's religion.
But, I respect the shit out of his 100% commitment to ensuring you got your money's worth.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (NwfFc)

80 Did they ever make a movie out of that book The Bridges at Toko Ri?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (tuLbh)

81 England Swings

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Yeah? Well, Virginia rolls.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (L/fGl)

82

Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 08:21 PM (63Dwl)

83 TACO
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In Soviet Trump America, CHICKEN FUCKS YOU

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (E0p3T)

84 Three O'Clock High > 12 O'Clock High

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (CNl8/)

85 Command Decision is great too, but no combat in that one.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (CNl8/)

86 Yes they did with john ford

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (bXbFr)

87 "So, for no reason whatsoever, what are the best movies about US bombing crews facing adversity while on their way to bombing the crap out of some nasty people?"

Thirty Seconds over Tokyo

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (lJ0H4)

88 Did they ever make a movie out of that book The Bridges at Toko Ri?
Posted by: Boss Moss

Yes, a reasonably good movie starring William Holden and Mickey Rooney.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (L/fGl)

89 We should place a few JADAMs on our old embassy in Tehran and any of the F-14s we sold them that are still operating.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (rxX52)

90 Hah! Neil Breen- now there's a thespian!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

91 Memphis Belle is an easy one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

92 The Israelis have already bombed the F-14As that were parked out in the open on the ramp.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:24 PM (b7rtK)

93 Was Beer Barrel in it? He would smuggle barrels in golf bags.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (tuLbh)

94 ****Is the latent attraction Grace (Hayley Atwell) has for Ethan required to get her killed?****

Looked up her pic. If she can act she lives if not she dies.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (DNJiU)

95 89 We should place a few JADAMs on our old embassy in Tehran and any of the F-14s we sold them that are still operating.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (rxX52)
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Those F-14s SHOULD BE IN A MUSEUM!

Posted by: Indiana Jones at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (36PRH)

96 Watching the College WS at work. LSU is beating Myrtle Beach State. Ok, Coastal Carolina St. Whatever.

1-0, Kittuhs.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (PGK1w)

97 Events, dear boy, events!

https://is.gd/GmYPlw

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (qgNn3)

98 One time found in a second hand store a 1943 hardcover edition of Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. Because of wartime scarcity it is a smallish book.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (b7rtK)

99 Nerdrotix and Critical Drinker mostly seem to like the shit I like. I avoid the shit they pan, because it sounds horrible.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (zZu0s)

100 Bomb bomb Iran .

Here we go

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (rWvc2)

101 Apparently we dropped Neil Breen on Fordow.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (fV+MH)

102 88 Did they ever make a movie out of that book The Bridges at Toko Ri?
Posted by: Boss Moss

Yes, a reasonably good movie starring William Holden and Mickey Rooney.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:23 PM (L/fGl)

Did Mickey Rooney play a Japanese guy?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (kpS4V)

103 One time found in a second hand store a 1943 hardcover edition of Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. Because of wartime scarcity it is a smallish book.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:26 PM (b7rtK)

Small type? No Cosby margins?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:27 PM (zZu0s)

104 Well Tom Cruise is getting up there with most of us

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (+qU29)

105 Mickey Rooney as Mr. Moto?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (b7rtK)

106 Grace Kelly was in the Bridges at Toko Ri. Dan good looking lady

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (IG2sK)

107 100 comments as I post this.

I just thought I'd remind everyone there is a thread about Iran if you scroll down the page a bit.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 08:28 PM (Dnobf)

108 Those F-14s SHOULD BE IN A MUSEUM!
Posted by: Indiana Jones at June 21, 2025 08:25 PM (36PRH)

I'm surprised Anna has not done some sort of Oceans 11 heist to ... liberate them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (zZu0s)

109 The wailing of the Tucker Carlson/Paulbots is going to be tedious. I have no issue with knocking out nuke weapon programs of insane nations. No nation building though. Let the Persians figure it out.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (PGK1w)

110 Oh you betcha she was

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (bXbFr)

111 @97
"There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!”
-- King Trump the Magnificent

I bet that statement ia grinding aomeone's gears in both Russia and China.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (36PRH)

112 No nation building though. Let the Persians figure it out.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:29 PM (PGK1w)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (zZu0s)

113 Sorry your nice movie thread is being crowded out by Events, Gique.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (kpS4V)

114 Tom Cruise with bangs eh. In real English that's always been called a fringe, you know like 'the surrey with the fringe on top'! And before you go all anti-Brit. What's more American than Oklahoma?

Posted by: Ciampino - wait it's a non-explosive fringe at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (sPQoU)

115 Aetius

The book is about the size of an open adult human's hand. Just looked inside, says First Printing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:30 PM (b7rtK)

116 Take the Iran stuff to the Iran thread, please.

MI Fallout is probably the peak of the franchise. It's cavills shotgun arm pump. Discuss.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (rWsXW)

117 99 Nerdrotix and Critical Drinker mostly seem to like the shit I like. I avoid the shit they pan, because it sounds horrible.
Posted by: Aetius451AD



I usually never get around to seeing the movie. I just watch The Critical Drinker for a synopsis and maybe I'll see it. Some day.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (PGK1w)

118 Did Mickey Rooney play a Japanese guy?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

No, he plays a rescue helicopter pilot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (L/fGl)

119 99 Nerdrotix and Critical Drinker mostly seem to like the shit I like. I avoid the shit they pan, because it sounds horrible.

It seems like Yaboi has nailed CD on not actually seeing the movies he reviews.

|| Did Mickey Rooney play a Japanese guy?

I will go to my grave averring that Rooney SAVES "Breakfast at Tiffany's".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (asXVI)

120 I haven't watched Dr Strangelove in a long time.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (rWvc2)

121 Hey I said we dropped Neil Breen on Iran.

That's on topic.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (fV+MH)

122
Was Beer Barrel in it? He would smuggle barrels in golf bags.
Posted by: Boss Moss


Yes, Robert Strauss was Beer Barrel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (63Dwl)

123 Aetius

That would be loverly. Maybe after the Mullahs are moot we might be able to bring something back.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (b7rtK)

124 I've saved this thread. Thanks for all the movie ideas.

Yeah. I really want to see "Dr. Strangelove." And I'm looking forward to some of the others.

President Trump talks at 10pm. I was channel surfing. If you are not watching FoxNews or ABC, there is nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (jvJvP)

125 113 Sorry your nice movie thread is being crowded out by Events, Gique.

Not the first time. Might be the last.

You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)

126 Mauler callum something is meticulous in his breakdown

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (bXbFr)

127 "I haven't watched Dr Strangelove in a long time.
Posted by: polynikes"

It holds up very nicely.

Posted by: eleven at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (fV+MH)

128 MI Fallout is probably the peak of the franchise. It's cavills shotgun arm pump. Discuss.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:31 PM (rWsXW)

It was whatshername in that dress.

I like redheads.

Rebecca Ferguson!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 08:33 PM (zZu0s)

129 Obama's Black Jesus Diplomat legacy also got bombed into oblivion tonight. He still has a bright future as a Pride Parade Queen.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (w/5xj)

130 Polynikes, look on the bright side of life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4VlruVG81w

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (b7rtK)

131 So.., which democrat is going to be the next president?

Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (4mo5v)

132 Rebecca Ferguson's leg features prominently in my review of that MI film.

https://tinyurl.com/3mfrmark

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:35 PM (asXVI)

133 This being the 50th anniversary of Jaws, I am here to admit that I have seen the film. I was 9 when it was released, and my folks would not let me see it.

Then I just kind of forgot to ever watch it. Eh. I pretty much know the story anyway. And I know a ton of quotes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)

134 This movie (Village Of The Damned) is brutal. I don't think I ever sat thru the whole thing. I just read up on what happens though. Sheesh. No Mary Poppins in this thing.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (vFG9F)

135 Dr. Strangelove has good bones.

Steve Coogan put on a live play version and it held up really well with only minor changes.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (asXVI)

136 Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (4mo5v)

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This is beginning to piss me off.

A new thread has been up for a while. I've told people more than once to stop talking news in this thread.

Moviegique wrote a strong movie post. Keep on topic or go to the other thread.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM (rWsXW)

137 134 This movie (Village Of The Damned) is brutal. I don't think I ever sat thru the whole thing. I just read up on what happens though. Sheesh. No Mary Poppins in this thing.
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John Carpenter did the remake with Chris Reeves and Ally Sheedy.

And that's that.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)

138 iPad restricts However

Trump says, FORDOW gone.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (DNJiU)

139 So.., which democrat is going to be the next president?
Posted by: Allen at June 21, 2025 08:34 PM (4mo5v)
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Zombie Andrew Jackson.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (kpS4V)

140 125 113 Sorry your nice movie thread is being crowded out by Events, Gique.

Not the first time. Might be the last.

You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)

I submit a motion that you get to take next post off and repost this. I was enjoying the read until.....

Stuff happened.

My friend had me watch Top Gun and Maverick...sp? They were really good.

Once my living situation is settled, I think we could do MI movies.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (jvJvP)

141 Yes that intro in the vienna opera house thats how quantum of solace should have been

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

142 137 John Carpenter did the remake with Chris Reeves and Ally Sheedy.

And that's that.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)

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Not his strongest work.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:37 PM (rWsXW)

143
John Carpenter did the remake with Chris Reeves and Ally Sheedy.

And that's that.

Posted by: moviegique


Was it any good?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 08:38 PM (63Dwl)

144 I've noticed that I enjoy movies in two ways. Either I watch a character I would like to be like James Bond or I watch character I can relate to. For example, I've been watching the Big Bang spinoffs Young Sheldon and Georgie and Mabdy's First Marriage. In Sheldon, I identify with George and with Jim in First Marriage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (L/fGl)

145 113 Sorry your nice movie thread is being crowded out by Events, Gique.

Not the first time. Might be the last.

You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)
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*sigh* This doesn't bode well for tomorrow's Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Pants are still required, though. We're not savages over there.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:39 PM (IBQGV)

146 There is a short movie at this site that really worth a review:

https://is.gd/4YvGOP

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (qgNn3)

147 @119 I thought the book Breakfast at Tiffany's was better than the movie. Audrey Hepburn's wasn't going to play a fast girl though

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:40 PM (IG2sK)

148 134 This movie (Village Of The Damned) is brutal. I don't think I ever sat thru the whole thing. I just read up on what happens though. Sheesh. No Mary Poppins in this thing.
Posted by: fd



I have! I liked it too. Not as good as "The Wicker Man', the 1973 version. I read that Christopher Lee said it's his favorite movie he was in. He did look like he was having lots of fun. Creepy, weird, movie. Kept you off the whole time. It looked normal but not quite. It was a well done trick to do in a movie. Loved it!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (PGK1w)

149 Maybe I'll see Mission Impossible tomorrow. And a bunch of movies this week. We're in for a block of hellishly hot weather.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:41 PM (kpS4V)

150 || Was it any good?

I tend to like Carpenter no matter what. IDK why exactly but I even found "Ghosts of Mars" engaging.

But it's not great.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (asXVI)

151 If we going to go Hammer films, The Devil Rides Out

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:42 PM (b7rtK)

152 147 @119 I thought the book Breakfast at Tiffany's was better than the movie. Audrey Hepburn's wasn't going to play a fast girl though

That book might have made a great movie. Especially if Capote got his wish for Marilyn to play Holly.

It would not have made a successful movie. It would probably not have made a movie that persisted in people's minds as a classic.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:43 PM (asXVI)

153 Don't mention the war.

Posted by: Basil at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (vFG9F)

154 You know, if I die soon. Or stop posting. Either way.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:32 PM (asXVI)
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Bullshit to that. This is a big deal. We'l see you next week.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (DNJiU)

155 It really wasnt his style

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr)

156 "It upsets the Germans, would you like a Colditz salad?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (b7rtK)

157 154
Bullshit to that. This is a big deal. We'l see you next week.

Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 08:44 PM (DNJiU

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There's another fucking thread, asshole.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 08:45 PM (rWsXW)

158 134 This movie (Village Of The Damned) is brutal. I don't think I ever sat thru the whole thing. I just read up on what happens though. Sheesh. No Mary Poppins in this thing.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2025 08:36 PM 

I've been going through a horrible time and did start watching the most brutal films I could find. Biut that was a while back.

I actually really enjoyed the 'Saw' series. And Luke from 'Gilmore Girls' was in a few of them.

But apparently "Human Centipede" or "The Serbian" are there for the win. Haven't seen them yet.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (jvJvP)

159 Good write up Moviegique

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:48 PM (+qU29)

160 They filmed "The Thing" in a small mining town in northwestern B.C. right on the Alaskan panhandle. It was isolated and insular and temps got to minus twenty degrees in the daytime. It got the crew feeling the isolation pretty good!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (kpS4V)

161 Someday it will be on TV and have no doubt I will watch it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (+qU29)

162 Guys, just FTR, I didn't really mean anything by my comment except, literally, as long as I post here, I know the "risks". It happens, it's not a big deal, and it's gonna happen again.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (asXVI)

163 Someday it will be on TV and have no doubt I will watch it
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:49 PM (+qU29)
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I watched MI:7 on Amazon Prime earlier this year. I suspect I'll rewatch it and add MI:8 for a double feature at some point.

I generally like the MI series (though I can't stand MI:III for it's over-reliance on shaky-cam, which I HATE.). Fun popcorn flicks.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:52 PM (IBQGV)

164 I have to agree that Hollywood has lost its mojo. I think the last movie I even thought about watching in the theater was the Top Gun remake. Nowadays I will watch an anime movie, especially anything by Makoto Shinkai, without hesitation. I also thought “Hundreds of Beavers,” which I think I heard about through the Saturday Evening Movie Thread, was hilarious. I streamed it, since the local movie house did not carry it, and bought the DVD. I think movies in theaters are going the way of buggy whips: you just don’t need them anymore.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:53 PM (qgNn3)

165 Cruise is an odd duck, but you really have to appreciate the way he treats movie making and his fans.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (IG2sK)

166 The company Gulf + Western gets ripped a lot in this book and it reminds me that Mel Brooks spoofed them as Engulf + Devour in one of his flicks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 08:54 PM (kpS4V)

167 Thanks for clarifying movigique, and I am trying to post about movies now. Just events on the ground are so distracting!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (qgNn3)

168 G+W owned Paramount when I worked there, Eris.

Different conglomerates, different day.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)

169 @158 Human Centipede is wacked out, but A Serbian Film is flat out torture porn , literally

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (IG2sK)

170 167 Thanks for clarifying movigique, and I am trying to post about movies now. Just events on the ground are so distracting!

Sure, it's inevitable. I am here for y'all's pleasure.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)

171 162 Guys, just FTR, I didn't really mean anything by my comment except, literally, as long as I post here, I know the "risks". It happens, it's not a big deal, and it's gonna happen again.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 08:51 PM (asXVI)

Thank you.

You are incredibly knowledgable and I have been watching more movies. And you have been helpful.

"Death Ship" was not that scary the second time around.

And decades later....

And after the graphic crap....

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 08:57 PM (jvJvP)

172 Somehow Ethan going after Skynet to stop a Terminator would be a good ending of the series

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (+qU29)

173 @158 Human Centipede is wacked out, but A Serbian Film is flat out torture porn , literally
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (IG2sK)
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Human Centipede is a movie I absolutely refuse to watch. Though the South Park parody (Human Cent-iPad) is pretty funny.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 08:58 PM (IBQGV)

174
I think movies in theaters are going the way of buggy whips: you just don’t need them anymore.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


If cable TV is "dead" then why would theaters survive?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:04 PM (63Dwl)

175
Mel Brooks spoofed them as Engulf + Devour in one of his flicks.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


Silent Movie?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 09:05 PM (63Dwl)

176 || And after the graphic crap....

There is a problem with the constant coarsening of culture. Everything has to be constantly amped up.

|| Human Centipede is a movie I absolutely refuse to watch.

The thing about "Human Centipede" to me is that, every '50s mad-scientist movie had a "fate worse than death" threatened that the hero (or monster) prevents from happening at the last moment.

HC ain't got none of that. It starts with "So, this mad scientist does this horrible experiment. Enjoy!"

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (asXVI)

177 Thanks, moviegique.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (0aYVJ)

178 176 HC ain't got none of that. It starts with "So, this mad scientist does this horrible experiment. Enjoy!"
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (asXVI)

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And then there are two more!

I saw the first and second. Never saw the third.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:07 PM (rWsXW)

179 169 @158 Human Centipede is wacked out, but A Serbian Film is flat out torture porn , literally
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 08:56 PM (IG2sK)

Cool. Tough year so I can't wait.

I don't have my book here but I did watch some found footage trilogy which was pretty brutal. Not my usual stuff. I have seen enough penises being removed.

Captured my mood.

On the plus side, yesterday, I watched my favorite kids shows that make me laugh about 20 times out loud in 22 minutes. That's probably progress.

I never got many comedy movies.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (jvJvP)

180 Sorry gique no offense intended.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 09:08 PM (E0p3T)

181 HC ain't got none of that. It starts with "So, this mad scientist does this horrible experiment. Enjoy!"
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:06 PM (asXVI)
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I wouldn't call him a "mad scientist." He's a loser who failed high school biology.

A real mad scientist is intelligent and crafty, knows science, but willing to push the boundaries into uncharted territories.

Not a guy who doesn't know how basic biology works.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)

182 181 A real mad scientist is intelligent and crafty, knows science, but willing to push the boundaries into uncharted territories.

Not a guy who doesn't know how basic biology works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 09:10 PM (IBQGV)

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Of course a professor bows at the altar of credentialism!!!!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:11 PM (rWsXW)

183 It was proposed yesterday that there should be a Horde movie night. Pick a crappy movie and let the Horde riff.

I offered up "Teeth."

But "Showgirls" would be great for a couple of reasons.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (jvJvP)

184 || A real mad scientist is intelligent and crafty, knows science, but willing to push the boundaries into uncharted territories.

Well, it's more a genre designation than a character description.

In a sense, Jame Gumb is a "mad scientist".

(Anyone?)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)

185 || Of course a professor bows at the altar of credentialism!!!!

It didn't spend eight years at Mad University getting my PhD so just ANYONE could call themselves a "mad scientist"!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)

186 185 It didn't spend eight years at Mad University getting my PhD so just ANYONE could call themselves a "mad scientist"!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)

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"Plagiarist!"
-Dr. Herbert West

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:14 PM (Plbvm)

187 "Plagiarist!"
-Dr. Herbert West
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Did I review that recently on a thread? We just saw the 30th and it holds up so well, right down to the straight lift of the score from "Psycho".

(How DID they get away with that?)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (asXVI)

188 187
Did I review that recently on a thread? We just saw the 30th and it holds up so well, right down to the straight lift of the score from "Psycho".

(How DID they get away with that?)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:18 PM (asXVI)

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The label that remastered and released it on 4k sent me a free uhd a month ago.

First time I'd seen it in maybe 20 years.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 21, 2025 09:20 PM (Plbvm)

189 I like Carpenter's VotD better than the original.

I particularly think the alien fetus reveal is particularly well done.

I think it's one of his better movies. But I believe people poo-poo it because it basically recapitulates the original movie with better efx. Not everything has to be ".updated" IMO. A trannie Village of the Damned would not be an improvement.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:23 PM (iJfKG)

190 @184 Jame Gumb is a mad scientist for testing lotion on the skin

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 09:24 PM (IG2sK)

191 || I think it's one of his better movies.

You are definitely in the minority. But IDK. I would've put "Prince of Darkness" down near the bottom, and a recent re-watch changed my mind a bit.

|| But I believe people poo-poo it because it basically recapitulates the original movie with better efx.

Interesting theory.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI)

192 190 @184 Jame Gumb is a mad scientist for testing lotion on the skin

And skin suits!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI)

193 Ya Boi Zack" has lost his marbles IMHO. I have no problem with the "birthday party clown" argument, but that's about the only rational argument he makes these days. His commenters are a SJW clown party.

Zack never had good taste in movies. I don't know what the hell has happened to him, but his behavior is exactly what he used to rail against.

Posted by: Resist_we_much at June 21, 2025 09:31 PM (5kCce)

194 || Zack never had good taste in movies.

Comically bad. But I enjoyed listening to him talk about them because he had a different perspective. Almost like Armond White, whom I love to read and never agree with on hardly anything.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (asXVI)

195 I really hope you repost this.

I'm pretty sure I saw the MI movies for 'free' on PlutoTV or Tubi.

And I liked the movies I have seen with Cruise. Yeah, Scientologist.

Better than a liberal...

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:36 PM (jvJvP)

196 || Yeah, Scientologist.

Heh. I remember after the 2016 election, all these precincts in the DTLA area were blue.

Then there was a little sea of red around the Scientology area, and the papers were all alarmed! What does it mean?!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (asXVI)

197 Comically bad. But I enjoyed listening to him talk about them because he had a different perspective. Almost like Armond White, whom I love to read and never agree with on hardly anything.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:34 PM (asXVI)
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Ha! Yes. Erudite and thoughtful analyses that I rarely agree with. But I like him.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 09:41 PM (kpS4V)

198 196 || Yeah, Scientologist.

Heh. I remember after the 2016 election, all these precincts in the DTLA area were blue.

Then there was a little sea of red around the Scientology area, and the papers were all alarmed! What does it mean?!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:40 PM (asXVI)


Thank you so much.

You made me laugh out loud.

A very precious gift.

Have an amazing week.

Even ace is posting now. Burning skulls. Great thread I was enjoying, Needs to be recycled.

It's not like this is the first time all crap loose after a great post.

Lol

Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 09:49 PM (jvJvP)

199 But I believe people poo-poo it because it basically recapitulates the original movie with better efx.

Interesting theory.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI)


Well, look at another movie remade from the same era and along the same general idea and around the same time, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"

People love Philip Kaufman's remake and for good reason. He really plunked it right down into the middle of the 70s gestalt with his own little additions (man-faced dog, etc)

Same with The Fly, both movies lend themselves to interpretations outside the original setting.

Whereas, the storyline of VotD can hardly exist outside of a small town, socially conservative environment.

I believe that "the Critics" are addicted to novelty and Carpenter didn't bring the novelty, he simply upgraded what was there, with his own additions(alien fetus).

It's a good solid horror movie.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (iJfKG)

200 Saw this movie Thursday.

Premise was incredibly silly. Was a superhero movie trying to be ... what none of them ever were - the original.

Having said that, the acting was dang good; the writing was excellent; the cinematography was outstanding.

AND, the guys who did the whole biplane thing at the end? They must have been wetting themselves having so much fun. They haven't gotten to do a sequence like that in a movie in DECADES!

I didn't need to see it on the big screen, but it was a fun, enjoyable movie, worth $7. And Cruise's opening "Thank you for watching this movie and being fans" was spot on and very anti-Zeigler.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 09:53 PM (PkFyV)

201 || People love Philip Kaufman's remake and for good reason. He really plunked it right down into the middle of the 70s gestalt with his own little additions (man-faced dog, etc)

Definitely. I prefer the '50s, but the '70s version held up well.

|| Same with The Fly, both movies lend themselves to interpretations outside the original setting.

Definitely.

|| Whereas, the storyline of VotD can hardly exist outside of a small town, socially conservative environment.

Very much of a pre-60s era.

|| I believe that "the Critics" are addicted to novelty and Carpenter didn't bring the novelty, he simply upgraded what was there, with his own additions(alien fetus).

Well, I enjoyed it at the time. I'd say it was "slight" but I didn't think there was anything really wrong with it. Wyndham's books aren't plot-heavy, and Carpenter is a straightforward storyteller.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:01 PM (asXVI)

202 Thanks, errbody!

Enjoy your bombing!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:02 PM (asXVI)

203 I lucked out recently and found a pair of really good RiffTrax movies. The first was "The Banker" which I was worried would be a sleazy slasher-style movie, but turned out a to be a movie about a cop trying to catch a serial killer before his obnoxious girlfriend made herself the killer's next victim. Low budget, of course, but the movie was good enough that the story could be enjoyed on its own, with the riffing just making the scenes more engaging.

The second movie was an almost sure-thing, "The Phantom Empire." It was a modern (well, 80's) version of a Roger Cormon movie. Super cheap, but incredibly ambitious, and seemingly oblivious to the fact that it was completely failing at portraying its intended grandeur. It was also more than a little sleazy with some gratuitous chessecake and toplessness. And of top of everything else, it stars a very young Jeffery Combs. It was everything a Rifftrax movie should be!

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2025 10:05 PM (Lhaco)

204 || "The Phantom Empire."

Fred Olen Ray and his cast of misfits. Besides Combs, his then-wife Dawn Wildsmith, Russ Tamblyn, Ross Hagen...Sybil Danning's on the cover...and of course, Michelle Bauer, whom I got to meet and hug last year at the Drive In.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:15 PM (asXVI)

205 It's a callback to the 1930s Gene Autry serial. I loved how ambitious Fred and Jim (Wynorski) were back in the '80s.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 21, 2025 10:16 PM (asXVI)

206 The plot was overwrought cartoon silliness with even the characters asking each other (and the audience) "Do you believe this" "I wouldn't either, but just trust us". The stunts and camera work were great. The "girl power" vignettes every 10 minutes were distracting and forced. Saw it once, won't see it again.

Posted by: Txdino at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (4U+mU)

207 I will always think of Carpenter's The Thing with the 2 black chicks who say 2 rows in front of me. Their ongoing commentary was great!

Posted by: Texican ette at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (SNf74)

208 That minor character from the first film-

In the first film the joke line was
'I want him working at a sonar station in the Arctic by the end of the day.'

Posted by: MikeN at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (bjDX0)

209 || 'I want him working at a sonar station in the Arctic by the end of the day.'

Great Easter egg.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (asXVI)

Hobby Thread - June 21, 2025 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. We gave the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies(TM) a spin. It must have been thirsty because it came up with home brewing and winemaking. Credit to Stateless for the topic request. We did a beer theme in September 2024, but that wasn't focused on homebrewing and didn't include winemaking.

[Top photo: Ginormous wine presses at Kloster Eberbach, Rhine River, Hessen, Germany. There are a dozen, although none operational now.]

The Cistercian monks of Eberbach wrote on their wine press in 1801: "Wine delights the heart of man." (Psalm 104:15)

Eberbach Monastery was founded in 1136 and was one of Germany's largest wineries for centuries. The monastery was secularized in 1803 by the Duke of Nassau. After secularization, Kloster Eberbach served "profane" purposes: women's prison, "lunatic asylum," cattle stables and agricultural tenant farm

The facility and surrounding lands have been under control of the State of Hesse since 1945. The monastery's wine cellar dates back to 1706 and contains some of the most valuable wines in the world.

We recommend a visit. In the name of research.

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TRex appreciates those that conjure beverages with a magical mix of ingredients and fermentation. TRex has a small brain and short arms which means TRex is not been blessed with talents of making beer or wine. However, out of respect to those who have invested their knowledge, experience and labor into such endeavors, TRex believes it would be rude to abstain from sampling the results from time to time. TRex is polite like that.

Are there amateur brewmasters and winemakers among the Horde? Please share. If you have shared your story previously, refresh our memory.

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Passing down knowledge: "Could be wrong or right, I dunno. But comes out good every year."

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Do you need a big expensive winery to make wine? Big machines, shiny tanks, rows of barrels, a bottling line and a nice tasting room? Wineries are sometime in the category of "having a small fortune by starting with a large one." Maybe start small first.

How much does making wine at home cost?



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Wine presses are simple machines and you can build a small one yourself. Learn how here:

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Once you make all that wine and put it in bottles, you'll need a wine storage solution. There are lots of videos with wine rack builds on the interwebs. This was the most simple and easy to follow guide for the most simple and functional wine rack I could find.

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Not specific to making wine at home and also not specific to grapes, but the science of rootstocks and grafting is a horticultural rabbit hole.

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There are a bazillion websites and youtube videos on making beer at home. Making drinkable beer takes far less time than making wine. One of the challenges with online videos is that hosts often take knowledge for granted or have trouble putting themselves in the position of newbies when they explain. TRex isn't qualified to judge, but these seemed reasonable options for starters:

The Easiest Way to Make Beer

How to brew beer at home - FULL process from start to finish

HOME BREWING 101: How to Brew Beer at Home [The Beginner's Guide]

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Beer school - learn more about hops:

Five hops created the craft beer revolution: Cascade, Centennial, Simcoe, Citra and Mosaic. This is a feature-length documentary, so fair warning if you push play.

Does hops count as a vegetable? They are green which helps their cause.

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Does anyone grow hops at home?

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Theme request

Next week we are going to talk lighthouses. We're going to talk about trips to see them, lore and stories involving them, pictures taken of them, paintings of them, and sculptures of them.

If you have thoughts or artistic submissions that can help the cause, please send to the official Hobby Thread email address below. The Hobby Thread always likes to feature Horde Hobbying, so don't be shy.

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Lego airport builds:

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What are you hobbying these days?

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Your participation does not need to limited to the theme. All hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Play nice. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls. Pants, as always, are optional.

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We talked nostalgic toys. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

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Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Thanks much to scampydog for the thread launch while TRex is busy with NoVa MoMe shenanigans. Because of said shenanigans, TRex will likely be less visible in the comments today. If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, hijack the thread for your hobbying as you see fit. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 Hmmm. For a non-drinker, not much to talk about today. Have fun.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 05:32 PM (0eaVi)

2 IYKYK

Moonshine rules
Wine drools

Sister in law's boyfriend did both, and by far, the 'shine was a better drink. The wine was... "off."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 05:34 PM (Q4IgG)

3 Does anyone grow hops at home?
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I know the owners of Luxy 13 hops. They grow them locally - nearby. Interesting how they harvest, both human and machinery.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:36 PM (41CYW)

4 Coincidence but I just finished my painting of our wine vineyard about 30 minutes ago. Not in time for this hobby post unfortunately.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:37 PM (VofaG)

5 Welcome Hobbiests
Certainly drink but never made any

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 05:37 PM (+qU29)

6 I'm at LibertyCon, which is part of science fiction Fandom, a hobby all it's own.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at June 21, 2025 05:37 PM (/7+bO)

7 Brewed a batch in my 20's at home. Best advertising slogan I could come up with to convince my friends to try a bottle was, "It's not that bad."

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (41CYW)

8 OT: some odd things can happen if you hit the wrong buttons on this website.

So, it was a monastery, then they immediately started doing handy shit with it as soon as they got their hands on it? Why is the liberal mindset always the dame?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (zZu0s)

9 Dame=same

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 05:40 PM (zZu0s)

10 Thanks for posting Doggo!

For those wondering, the NoVA MoMe has been no fun at all. Nope. Not at all.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (bNCdy)

11 "It's not that bad."
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:39 PM (41CYW)

It's not Natural Light.

I won't have a tranny as my spokesmen any time soon.

If I could afford a busty blonde and/or brunette, they would be serving you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (zZu0s)

12 10 Thanks for posting Doggo!

For those wondering, the NoVA MoMe has been no fun at all. Nope. Not at all.
Posted by: TRex
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Ha. See you in the Club later this evening. Have fun, Dino.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:44 PM (41CYW)

13 It was fun getting a fresh beer from a friend, tasting their creation, and chatting about it. Now, with craft breweries everywhere, the DIY vibe feels quieter. A shame really.

Posted by: HappyFun at June 21, 2025 05:44 PM (+Wlld)

14 Back in the 90's I brewed my own beer. Typically from mail-order outfits that supplied "kits" with all the ingredients except water. They were advertised as certain "styles" such as a wheat, or stout, or whatever.

Hit and miss.

Clean-up was a bitch.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)

15 I am tempted to experiment and make prison pruno.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:46 PM (VofaG)

16 When visiting a brew pub, is "Wow, this is pretty hoppy!" code for "So bitter it tastes like shit!"?

Since I don't have a man bun, I feel like I'm not welcome.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 05:49 PM (cYBz/)

17 Boozing is a hobby.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:52 PM (jc0TO)

18 Have a small miniature Napoleonic war game going, solo of course. After that will pack up the game board.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 05:52 PM (+qU29)

19 IYKYK

Moonshine rules
Wine drools
Posted by: Martini Farmer

That reminds me - I have some blackberry moonshine in the freezer patiently waiting for me. Not that big distillery garbage, the real thing: no label. Wow, is it good.

And, keto friendly - Bonus!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 05:52 PM (cYBz/)

20 We had a beer tasting at church a few years ago because one of our members was a beer distributor. We had, I think, six different beers, each with a different food. It was amazing how different tasting beers go with different food.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 05:55 PM (jc0TO)

21 > When visiting a brew pub, is "Wow, this is pretty hoppy!" code for "So bitter it tastes like shit!"?
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Juice infused beer, ales, which seem popular and are pretty high ABV (like 9 - 12%) seem popular. The Voodoo Ranger brand has an impressive catalog of weird tasting Ales.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 05:55 PM (Q4IgG)

22 I come from a long line of grape stompers. There is a picture I wish I had. It is of my mother and three of my aunts all stomping grapes in a large wooden vat.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 05:55 PM (ZIggv)

23 >>When visiting a brew pub, is "Wow, this is pretty hoppy!" code for "So bitter it tastes like shit!"?

Rhode Island has a ton of micro brews. Don't know why but they are everywhere. Fortunately, there is a really good one a few miles from my house.

Started by a couple who inherited the family farm. They were growing hops for many of the local brewers and decided to jump in themselves. I'm over the crazy hops filled IPA but they make a really good lager that I just happened to be drinking right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 05:56 PM (viF8m)

24 Something like 30% of the population is bitter blind. I wonder what beer tastes like to them?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 21, 2025 06:00 PM (YUL+W)

25 My older brother used to make beer. My parents made wine, back in the 70s. (I don't care much for either beverage)

I grew hops for a couple years, to give to bro. Yes, Cascade and Centennial! There was a 3rd, but can't think of the name. Bought the roots online from a place in Oregon.

Centennial was especially vigorous!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 06:02 PM (rdVOm)

26 This guy I used to work with did moonshine. Like all the time. Sold it on the side for about $20 a quart. The proofs went from about 100 to over 125. The subtle corn taste in it was really nice. Not overly sweet, just.... there.

Kept a quart in the "garage fridge" for years.

Not so much now-a-days. Sad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 06:03 PM (Q4IgG)

27 29 years ago worked with a home brewer. His club was the Maltose Falcons (Maltese Falcon reference). After attending a beer tasting contest with other clubs, I called them Comatose Falcons, the judges were hammered.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 06:05 PM (25aq3)

28 We had a family friend in England who home brewed. One night, he heard a POW! and ran into the small utility room where he kept his bottled home brew. He turns on the light, and to his horror, sees the family cat in the center of the room, beer and foam and glass everywhere and the cat covered in it. The cat was frozen, one front leg up, only blinking. He gingerly picks up the cat expecting the worse. Not a scratch on it. He literally dug shards of glass out of the plaster. The cat had one less life after that incident. And it never went into that room again.

Posted by: JML at June 21, 2025 06:05 PM (1UudH)

29 Lighthouses... funny you should pick that for next week, TRex!

The second week of June we went driving up the Oregon coast to see new sights and I was hoping for some dramatic shots of the coastline as grist for a new painting.  Unfortunately, as it was on the coast, most of the time we saw nothing but fog.  Although I was tempted to stop at every scenic viewpoint and photograph the fog at each one.  “Look, here's Arch Rock.  And here’s House Point.  And there’s the famous lighthouse you see on all the postcards… “  Eventually the fog started to burn off and we actually did see the Heceta Head Lighthouse. 

Despite not seeing much of the coast, it was kinda fun, as we had no idea where we’d go next or what we’d see.  Or not see.  Except plenty of tsunami hazard warning signs.  Into the tsunami hazard zone, out of the tsunami hazard zone, until it felt like the tsunami was a gang that was going to leap out and ambush us.  Those tsunamis are sneaky, all right, and Oregon kept warning us about them and their hangouts.  Which was basically every low spot and river/creek mouth all along the coastline.

I did start a new painting but had to settle for Crater Lake.

Posted by: tankascribe at June 21, 2025 06:05 PM (NtoJk)

30 I don't drink enough to make wine making or beer brewing worth the effort. But the subject, especially from an historical and agricultural aspect, is interesting. So many rabbit holes to follow: health, safety from bad drinking water, commerce going back millennia, improving farming methods, cultural matters, etc. And while it could lead to major industrial efforts, it could be done on the frontier or in small holdings.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 06:08 PM (yTvNw)

31 My husband did the home-brewing thing with a friend for a while. I don't drink beer (or much of anything, really) so never sampled any. All I know if that it takes a fair bit of equipment, and the water used can really influence the taste. DH claims that what he turned out was potable, but as we're not big drinkers he stopped doing it after a while as there's only so much mediocre beer that one can inflict upon friends.

Posted by: tankascribe at June 21, 2025 06:09 PM (NtoJk)

32 Heh. Calgary is having a blizzard right now. Good day to be in Spokane.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2025 06:13 PM (OJL75)

33 For those wondering, the NoVA MoMe has been no fun at all. Nope. Not at all.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 05:41 PM (bNCdy)
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Right?! The people who organized it really let standards slip this year.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 06:16 PM (7ursr)

34 1 Hmmm. For a non-drinker, not much to talk about today. Have fun.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 05:32 PM
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Know anything about lighthouses?

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

35 I've "home brewed" kombucha and kvas. Kvas is a Russian drink made with black bread; it's halfway between soda and beer. It's hard to find kvas unless you're in a city with a Russian grocery store, but I guess you could order it from Amazon.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 06:18 PM (HIjL3)

36 Many years ago attended an Italian wedding and reception. They had jugs and jugs of homemade wine at the reception. Wow. That was potent stuff. I've never been so drunk.

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2025 06:19 PM (lJ0H4)

37 And pruno makers are in jail because?

15 I am tempted to experiment and make prison pruno.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:46 PM (VofaG

They belong there after numerous tries by the county, state and feds to get rid of them. So go ahead with prison tats and sex too. Edgy!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2025 06:21 PM (QSrLX)

38 Not really a beer guy but when I do drink beer, I want it to be tasty, refreshing and non-challenging, overly hopped beers tend to make for a beer that's a struggle to enjoy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 06:21 PM (XV/Pl)

39 The ruse won't work. The best NoVa MoMe ever is more like it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:23 PM (ZIggv)

40 39 The ruse won't work. The best NoVa MoMe ever is more like it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:23 PM
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Would have been more fun if you were there stomping grapes!

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

41 Thank you.

I'm honored.

And drinking. Sadly, not home brewed.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 06:25 PM (jvJvP)

42 Brewed a number of ales with a couple friends back in the 90's. Back then there were small businesses that sold roasted malt, or if you wanted to skip that step, malt extract. The darker the malt, the heftier the end product. Most impressive was a Belgian ale made with yeast harvested from a bottle of Chimay.

As mentioned above, it is a messy endeavor, especially if you are making your own mash. I was single at the time, so my kitchen was the designated brewery. Next challenge is sterilizing everything to keep the skunk out. After about three/four weeks we got together for bottling, which was made quick work by the assembly line method we devised.

I'd compare any of our ales favorably to Bud/Coors/Miller. Definitely worth the time and effort..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 06:28 PM (bA75n)

43 In the book "Convict Conditioning 2", Coach Wade described how prisoners would make booze in jail.

Sounded vile. But apparently one batch could get a lot of people wasted, if you could stomach it.

Posted by: Stateless.. 35I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 06:28 PM (jvJvP)

44 In our younger days a good friend brewed beer and porters as a casual hobby. The results were pretty tasty but it was too time consuming to stay with it. (Work, kids, home owning, commuting, and other hobbies do take a toll on free time.)

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 06:29 PM (yTvNw)

45 Cistercian monks of Eberbach > Priests of the Temples of Syrinx

I brewed beer many many years ago. I still remember the time when about 15 or so bottles popped their caps from too much carbonation, in the carpeted closet of my rented room.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 06:31 PM (8hxDK)

46 Do they only allow women to stomp the grapes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 06:31 PM (63Dwl)

47 "Wine delights the heart of man." (Psalm 104:15)
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Some folks like whiskey, whiskey's mighty fine
Some folks like moonshine, Lord, they drink it all the time
My daddy taught me, he said, "Son, only way to keep your head in line
Drinkin' that wine wine, wine
Keep your head stoned all the time

Look at them luscious little bottles, sittin' up on the shelf
Red green and yellow, Lord, they are somethin' else, hmmm
They mesmerize me, the way they sparkle and shine
Drinkin' that wine wine, wine
Keep your head stoned all the time

One snort of Ruby Port really ring the bell
Then a glass of Muscatel sets my head up well
Then this sweetest bottle of cheapest sherry wine
I say goodbye to my mind

Posted by: The Youngbloods at June 21, 2025 06:32 PM (XeU6L)

48 Wish you had been there, Ben Had!

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 06:33 PM (79pEw)

49 bluebell, I so wish I had been there too. Don't give up on me.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:36 PM (ZIggv)

50 49 bluebell, I so wish I had been there too. Don't give up on me.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 06:36 PM
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Can confirm that a lot of people are looking forward to Texas!

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

51 Know anything about lighthouses?
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

Completely in the dark. Sorry.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 06:41 PM (0eaVi)

52 Me and ex brewed beer and made wine in Saudi Arabia. Some of it turned out pretty good.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 21, 2025 06:42 PM (dR6yv)

53 Having a coconut imperial stout from 3 Floyds as I read this. 15% ABV, so only one.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 06:44 PM (ITkJX)

54 I make beer - not as a hobby, but as a way to make a living for now.
Work for a major brewing company, celebrating the 50th anniversary of one of their top brands this year.

The equipment and processes used for commercial brewing is actually pretty amazing. Seeing 1700 12oz cans per minute being filled / capped is impressive

Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 06:49 PM (Pe+uV)

55 This isn't an open thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:49 PM (tuLbh)

56 38 Not really a beer guy but when I do drink beer, I want it to be tasty, refreshing and non-challenging, overly hopped beers tend to make for a beer that's a struggle to enjoy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 06:21 PM (XV/Pl)

This has been my struggle lately, and I am a beer guy. When we brewed, we used hops to balance out the malt. I think we used Cascade and maybe Hallertau (which we later discovered I had an allergy to).

Someone at one point declared that hops can provide a "buzz", and the next thing you know, small brewers were denuding entire hop vineyards to brew a few cases of eye-watering swill and declaring it great stuff. Then they started charging six-pack prices for a single bottle. The shame of it is they pushed out some pretty good upstart brewers: Oregon, Pete's (Wicked Ale), and eventually even Fritz Maytag's storied Anchor..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 06:51 PM (bA75n)

57 Ever hear about the group of Nuns whose convent needed more repairs than they could afford? ... Their solution was to make and sell a variety of brews, with "Ale Mary" ending up as their best seller.

Posted by: Kathy at June 21, 2025 06:52 PM (qpw89)

58 55 This isn't an open thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:49 PM
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Open to any hobbies you'd like to discuss. Not open to politics, current events or religious debates.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 06:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

59 Seeing 1700 12oz cans per minute being filled / capped is impressive
Posted by: PMRic
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That immediately evoked the Laverne and Shirley opening in my mind.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 06:53 PM (ITkJX)

60 OK.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 06:53 PM (tuLbh)

61 And now for our beer song

https://tinyurl.com/2x4wmedx


Known to have written copies of the basic storyline at least as far back as 1568

Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 07:01 PM (Pe+uV)

62
Seeing 1700 12oz cans per minute being filled / capped is impressive
Posted by: PMRich


My eyes don't work that fast.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 07:01 PM (63Dwl)

63 That top photo makes me think of one of the sets in Mel Brooks' movie History of the World, Part 1. The scene with Torquemada.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:02 PM (yTvNw)

64 A recommendation for those who find themselves in Germany (specifically, Bavaria) in the near future.

Check out Kloster Reutberg in Upper Bavaria. It's a monastery that makes varied (and wonderful) beers. If you're a beer drinker, you'll find something to enjoy. And, the food is pretty good as well, but secondary. The monastery has been in operation since the mid 1600's, and they never stopped brewing since its inception. Out in the country, up on a hill, it's hard to miss if you are in the area around Sachsenkamm. I, very much, enjoyed their Ägidius-Trunk which is unfiltered...so flavorful.

Good stuff.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 07:02 PM (dIske)

65 I come from a family of drinkers on both sides, only non drinkers was Mama and Granny. Also there were moonshiners on both sides. My first drink was beer at age four given to me by Mama's older brother, and her younger brother was my drinking buddy in the early 70s until he stroked out at age fifty. I've been drinking all my life until January 1, 2025, mostly whisky. I still miss it. I just don't drink it.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 07:03 PM (LHPAg)

66 That immediately evoked the Laverne and Shirley opening in my mind.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

When I got the job, and found I had to go to Milwaukee for company onboarding - everybody in my wife’s family started with the theme song

Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 07:04 PM (Pe+uV)

67 My father-in-law was an assistant moonshiner in his youth. He fed wood to the fire, IIRC.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 07:04 PM (jc0TO)

68 German fellow took us to a beer place in Bavaria a few years ago that we enjoyed. He told us a story about it also; it was a monastery that brewed beer sometime in the last 1000 years (1400? 1500?). Story went that the reputation for their special dark beer was so good the pope wanted to try some. They could not refuse him, being monks, but were worried perhaps that too much attention would get them in trouble (something about how they were only permitted to make such amount of beer, and they were going beyond that).

They sent the beer over the alps. luckily for them by the time it had made it to the pope, it had become not very good at all, and so the pope thought they were full of crap and continued to ignore what they were doing.

Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 07:05 PM (2gjbv)

69 Onboarding?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 07:07 PM (63Dwl)

70 57 Ever hear about the group of Nuns whose convent needed more repairs than they could afford? ... Their solution was to make and sell a variety of brews, with "Ale Mary" ending up as their best seller.
Posted by: Kathy at June 21, 2025 06:52 PM (qpw89)

I heard of a bar in Fells Point called Ale Mary's. Probably not related. I do recall a couple of brewpubs in that area. Sissons made a great red ale. Just outside Fells point and the Inner Harbor was the Baltimore Brewing Company. Had my first taste of elk there, nicely paired with a marzen. I think both of those places are gone now..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 07:07 PM (bA75n)

71 64 Check out Kloster Reutberg in Upper Bavaria. It's a monastery that makes varied (and wonderful) beers.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 07:02 PM
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Great recommendation. Thank you. Kloster Andechs is another one in Bavaria, about an hour drive further west.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

72 The day's topic led me off looking into Filipino 'tuba', palm wine, and distallation. Wiki article noted tuba often distilled into lambanog and laksoy and were inaccurately called vino de coco. These got popular in Mexico through Spanish trade, but then prohibited.

Wiki noted, "The prohibition of vino de coco and the introduced distillation technologies from the Philippines led to the development of mezcal and tequila by the indigenous peoples of Mexico."



Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 07:08 PM (/lPRQ)

73 Looking forward to the thread about lighthouses. JackStraw should get involved. And now I have a new challenge: attempting to draw one. My tries at those dancing mice from a few weeks ago didn't result in anything that will ever be seen outside the confines of the sketchbook. (The world is safer that way. Trust me on this.) But it was fun trying the various poses and mouse expressions. And a lighthouse would give me a chance to use some of the techniques from that drawing class I mentioned.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM (yTvNw)

74 69 Onboarding?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr


Just what I’ve always called that first week of:

This is our company history, our values and how this line of business works.

Kind of handy for a guy whose only reference to beer prior to being hired was consumption

Posted by: PMRich at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM (Pe+uV)

75 My family has been in around the Napa Valley wine business for 80 years. A cousin owned a vineyard in Rutherford, Mondavi's were family friends. Family worked at Louis Martini and Sutter Home wineries

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM (ZIggv)

76 68 They sent the beer over the alps. luckily for them by the time it had made it to the pope, it had become not very good at all, and so the pope thought they were full of crap and continued to ignore what they were doing.

Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 07:05 PM
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Never heard that one. Wonder if the monks ensured it would spoil when they sent it. Malicious compliance.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

77 My contribution the the family wine business is my consumption.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:11 PM (ZIggv)

78 >>Looking forward to the thread about lighthouses. JackStraw should get involved.

A few weeks ago on the Cafe thread, ace posted one from your old stomping ground, JTB. Castle Hill Lighthouse.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 07:16 PM (viF8m)

79 I toured the Miller brewery a long time ago. The place is HUGE and the tour was fascinating. At the end we got to sample some brews being developed. I don't think many made it to full production but they were all good or at least interesting.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:19 PM (yTvNw)

80 I homebrewed for a few years. Made some good beer, some less good.

Brewing is the perfect hobby. I started with a $50 starter kit my sister gave me for Christmas. It was everything necessary to make beer. An afternoon every other week, and I had beer. Cajun cooker and an old beer keg made a great boil kettle, which tripled my batch size.

The perfect hobby part is that there is no end to the tools and toys you can make or buy to improve your setup. Brewing is like cooking - there are lots of factors to change and control to get a broad range of results. And after you do the work, you get beer.

Posted by: Penultimatum at June 21, 2025 07:19 PM (1QSX/)

81 When I was 12 or 13 I tried making wine from grapes that grew on our property. Of course it was a disaster.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 21, 2025 07:20 PM (Hw6WF)

82 73 My tries at those dancing mice from a few weeks ago didn't result in anything that will ever be seen outside the confines of the sketchbook.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:10 PM
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Easier to draw lighthouse expressions than dancing mouse expressions. But glad you're drawing!

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

83 My father-in-law was an assistant moonshiner in his youth. He fed wood to the fire, IIRC.
Posted by: toby928
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I thought riding shotgun was also among the assistant's duties.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2025 07:22 PM (ITkJX)

84 77 My contribution the the family wine business is my consumption.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:11 PM (ZIggv)

Quality assurance is an important, and often thankless, step in the process. Your family should celebrate your contribution.

My grandfather had a wine press and I have a vague early childhood memory of my father helping him wheelbarrow them to the cellar where he pressed them. Family lore held that one of the barrels sprung a leak and gramps eventually sold the press. I remember the barrels, but they must have been sold off at some point, too..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2025 07:23 PM (bA75n)

85 78 ... "A few weeks ago on the Cafe thread, ace posted one from your old stomping ground, JTB. Castle Hill Lighthouse."

Dang. I must have missed that thread. I do miss Ocean Drive now and then. It was a great place to view the Milky Way reflected in the water when it was calm. Some good surf casting off the rocks as well.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:23 PM (yTvNw)

86 Interesting information. Not for me, though, anything stronger than light beer makes me ill.

Kinda hoping for another polynikes painting.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 07:24 PM (CHHv1)

87 Time to say thank you and good night before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here. Looking forward to a marvelous episode next week on lighthouses. Send your submissions to the Hobby Thread emailbox.

Y'all come back now, ya hear?

See you later in Club ONT.

Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 07:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

88 I haven't brewed in a few years. I should brew this fall.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2025 07:26 PM (sp5rp)

89 I liked growing the hops plants! They were very attractive.

Instead of growing them straight up, I trained them to spiral up 'pyramids' I'd made using garden stakes. Then, when the cones came on, they looked like Christmas trees. In summer, LOL.

Harvest was easy-- no ladder required.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 07:27 PM (rdVOm)

90 Here's an old painting of mine.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ah8nfj

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 07:27 PM (CHHv1)

91 TRex, Thanks for another fun thread. And I hope everyone at the MoMe is having a great time.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 07:29 PM (yTvNw)

92 I make mead (I'm a bee keeper so it's a good fit), Ale and rice wine. The rice wine is really simple. Buy some rice wine yeast balls at the oriental grocer, crush them up, mix with glutonous rice (has to be glutonous) and place in a large mason jar with some gauze between the lid and jar (it's a poor mans airlock), or you can use an airlock. In aboiut a month, the rice congeals into a large clump and some liquid had collected in ghe bottom. Decant the liquid off, filter through guaze or chesecloth. Its in the 17-20% ABV range. Yum Yum.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 21, 2025 07:32 PM (4E0Ti)

93 I will say that making limoncello and peachello is so easy and the rewards are many.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2025 07:34 PM (ZIggv)

94 I never could get hops to grow right in gulf coast Texas, They grow best north of the 35th parallel. I'm about 30 lattitude. I have some rhizomes in the fridge that I will plant this week as a last try.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 21, 2025 07:35 PM (4E0Ti)

95 Just remembered: "Newport"

That was the name of my #3 hops.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 07:43 PM (rdVOm)

96 Never heard that one.
Posted by: TRex

https://tinyurl.com/yetryx89

Here’s a bit more accurate version. Several years/beers and not sure I remembered it correctly.

Posted by: H at June 21, 2025 07:47 PM (2gjbv)

97 My sister gave me a Mr Beer kit for my birthday years ago. A friend saw it, and got one for himself. He beat me to the brewing. His wife told us the brewing process was the worst smell in the world. I was prohibited from doing it in the house. Laundry room would have been perfect, as the garage varied in temp too much.
His batch came out terribly. He apparently didn’t disinfect all of the things, and got some sort of cootie in the brew barrel. It truly was undrinkable, no matter how long you let it age.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2025 08:17 PM (7hdjp)

98 My dad and his friend would make wine. The stories I could tell…
Stole a bottle from time to time to sneak away for a buzz…tasted like shit, but accomplished the goal.
His wine storage rack was ingenious. He found a head shop going out of business and bought the poster storage rack. Heavy timber frame, 4X4s, with clay sewer/ water pipe segments about 3k long. Kept temp moderate and you could fill it from both sides. 100s of bottles, but my 17 year-old self thought they all tasted like ass.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2025 08:22 PM (7hdjp)

99 When I was a kid, a neighborhood storefront that couldn't keep a tenant for more than a few months had an inspiration: Sell beer-making gear, and have classes twice a week in the evenings. Stayed open for AGES. Phenomenal success. Which proves alcohol is the source of all inspiration, success, and bad marriages.

Posted by: Paul Nowak at June 22, 2025 03:04 AM (YC7Ue)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 21

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Excerpts from a special essay by our friend Bob Zimmerman of Behind the Black, memorializing The happiest cat I've ever known.

Please click the link for the entire essay and comments:

Last week we had one of those heart-wrenching experiences that no one should ever have. When we woke up on Friday morning we could not find our youngest cat, Misty, anywhere. We searched the house, the yard, checked under and in the shed, walked the grounds around the fenced area endlessly, even walked along a nearby wash.

Misty was nowhere. We immediately passed out notices to all our neighbors as well as listed her as missing on a number of websites that specialize in listing unidentified found pets. All to no avail. As of today there is still no evidence of her anywhere. We have mostly decided that a predator of some kind, a coyote or large bird, somehow got into the yard (protected by a very high fence) and snatched her.

She was only two and a half years old. Her loss is quite painful.

What makes it worse is that she was undoubtedly the happiest cat I have ever known. We originally got her as a kitten in 2022 to be a companion for our other cat, Molly, as well as for ourselves. We had adopted Molly and Emma together in 2013, but Emma had died prematurely in 2021 from kidney failure. We found Molly pining for companionship, and thus went out to find her a kitten.

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Misty "squashing" Molly

There are some wonderful descriptions of Misty's typical happy behavior here. And this photo is wonderful:

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Misty being goofy

Some cats can be timid. Some can be bossy. Some can be hostile. Some cats, like Molly, are contented and nice, always willing to hang out near us but not be very creative or active, with eating, sleeping, and getting brushed her only real interests.

Misty however was always happy, and eager to tell everyone that’s how she felt. For almost three years she brought this joy to us, as well as to herself. For that we are grateful.

It is tragic beyond words that she could not do so for many more years.

Please consider yourself and your family (including pets) to be special members of the PetMoron family, Bob. We mourn you loss of Misty. Stay in touch.

We have gotten a real sense of how special Misty was. Thank you.

Meet The PetMorons

Hi KT:

Long-time semi-Lurker Lisan here. Here are pictures of Billy the Dog, an Australian Kelpie mix;

Bella, the Tortie cat; and

Sophia, a very ancient Tabby.

I brought all three animals home after my aunt passed away and no one could take them.

Originally, I was taking only the two cats, but Plan A for the dog fell through and I was Plan B. Since Billy is a very good dog, and especially good around cats, it wasn’t stretch to include him as part of the pet horde. He is the most well-behaved dog-polite, good on a leash and incredibly, he never barks. The puzzle with him is that he has none of the herding dog breed characteristics, and while he looks like he has some husky or malamute in him, he doesn’t act like it. Will just be thankful he is such a well-behaved little guy, and do a DNA test at some point to confirm his breed.

Bella is about 14 years old, she was exclusively an outdoor cat, but not feral. She is adapting well to being indoor only, meaning she isn’t complaining with howling cat noise or violence. She is actually a quiet cat, very amenable to being handled and petted-I think she is secretly happy to be warm and safe inside. We are letting her set the pace for ratcheting down her flight response, and she is slowly exploring beyond the safe places she has picked in the house. Sophia is confirmed at 22 years old, which is the oldest cat I have ever had. Apparently, she was also an outdoor only cat, brought inside to die when she began to look frail—this was an unknown number of years ago, and she is still hanging on. She is creaky, cranky, and old-thin, but moves around well from nap spot to nap spot, almost trotting when food is on offer. We are treating her for the typical old cat problems, namely hyperthyroidism (medicated), kidney failure (subQ fluids), with her diabetes testing still inconclusive. I know she is on borrowed time but I am terribly happy we could give her a final landing place that is peaceful and quiet and safe.

Thanks for all you do for the Ace of Spades weekend edition.

Lisan

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What a wonderful story, Lisan. Billy looks like a superlative dog. One of the kitty photos didn't come through. Maybe we can try again.

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Let me introduce to the newest member of our family.

This is a baby green cheek conure. He/she hatched on Father’s Day morning. As you can see, there will be more siblings in the coming days.

He will get his first feeding this evening and moved into a brooding box tomorrow.

I’ll try to send more images as they grow.

David

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One of the tiniest PetMorons ever!

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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde

From By-Tor

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Thank you for sharing your pets with us. If you haven't seen yours yet, we are still untangling submissions from the past few weeks.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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1 I sent a picture back on the 13th for the thread. Should I resend?

And Misty making herself comfortable in the sink is hilarious.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (7xrfc)

2 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:31 PM (+qU29)

3 NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM

Was it a greyhound? Think I have it, but you could resend with your nic.

Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 03:31 PM (xekrU)

4 I'll resend in a moment. And yes, it was a greyhound.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:32 PM (7xrfc)

5 Bappies (baby parrots) are teh ugly!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 03:33 PM (HaduJ)

6 Roadrunner! Cool bird. When I was a kid I went with my family out to West Texas. Saw the roadrunners. And they do run up and down the roads. I think their favorite food is lizards. Kinda crazy birds but they know what their doing.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 03:40 PM (ilX37)

7 Afternoon, Pet Folken!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 03:40 PM (omVj0)

8 My brother bought his parrots from a breeder that raised the babies. The only exception was when they had three clutches arrive at the same time and had to leave it to the mother with one of them.

They had the most lovable Hyacinth who thought people were wonderful because they gave him attention.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:41 PM (7xrfc)

9 Tree branches moving. Wind? No, squirrel. Well, if the tree across the street is moving it's windy? No, squirrels there too.
Do spiders count as pets? Haven't broomed them out yet. It's like Wild Kingdom when they dash to eat a fly. One has six corpses in it's web.
Neighbors puppy finally has a name: Nova. Meh, I'm still calling her little girl. Man, she is solid! Going to be a big blue heeler.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 03:42 PM (7QJmL)

10
She needs a festive little hat.

Posted by: fourseasons at June 21, 2025 03:44 PM (3ek7K)

11 My mom has two cats reach 24 … at the same time. She couldn’t be sure of the ages, because they were rescues, but she had one for 18 years and another for 20 years, and both were mature when they arrived, so they were certainly very old felines.

They died within a few weeks of each other. And in exactly the same way. They went to sleep as per usual, and never woke up.

Mom had another cat reach 21, almost 22. Must be something in the water here.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 03:45 PM (aeiyZ)

12 I took my Paisley to a dog friendly bar today and she was good until a particular dog came by and she could not resist the temptation to bark so she got thrown out.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 21, 2025 03:46 PM (kTd/k)

13 Meow....

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at June 21, 2025 03:48 PM (sAmhv)

14 That top photo and caption made me laugh. When we adopted Precious the Bichon almost two years ago, she was listed as deaf. Turns out she wasn't hard of hearing, just hard of listening. She can certainly hear the soft sound of unwrapping a Kraft cheese single which, in her considered opinion, is the pinnacle of haute cuisine.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 03:51 PM (yTvNw)

15 I went to read Zimmermann's story about Misty the happiest cat. A tragedy that she didn't get to live out a full life. (Though it's only been, what, two weeks now? Cats have been known to go missing for years, and then return.)

My Happiest Cat was clearly Marie-Antoinette the smart black cat. She was rescued from a park in the French Quarter, we were told, and became Linda's first cat. After a day or so, Marie adjusted, learned her new name or any part of it, and set off on a lifelong adventure to see and do what she could see and do. She was always pleased to have new people come over ("Ah! Someone new to worship me!"), loved to play with toys and with human objects like earrings and jewelry, and loved to have other cats with her. When I introduced her to the harness and lead later in her life, she eagerly took to walking with us, leading us with her tail in the air.

She lived to be about fourteen. All too short a season.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 03:52 PM (omVj0)

16 Woof!!! Beautiful pets as always. Thanks K.T.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 21, 2025 03:52 PM (PDbei)

17 I looked up the adult version of the tiny little chick. What a beautiful bird!:

https://tinyurl.com/u5a4awvb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 03:53 PM (2GCMq)

18 The dog that locked his human out of the car has a new name.

Asshole.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 03:56 PM (ZmEVT)

19 Cats have been known to go missing for years, and then return.)

My childhood tuxedo cat escaped from the vet. Over a year later coming home from trick-or-treat, there she was on the front porch!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 03:56 PM (RsSPG)

20 I have a story, and a couple of pics, about a Moron-adjacent animal I can send.

Stirling and Dagny, the Killer Kittenz From Outer Space, are doing well. Stirling was on my lap just now, though he's doing it less often as he grows up. (Still milk-treads, though.) Dagny, well, I have had to adjust to the fact she'll never be a lap cat, and just enjoy her company when she chooses to be near me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 03:56 PM (omVj0)

21 The trouble with cats is that 4000 years ago the Egyptians worshiped them and they never forgot.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 03:57 PM (ZmEVT)

22 I've never been kicked out of a bar but my dog was.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 21, 2025 04:00 PM (kTd/k)

23 Some conures can rival the worst at making loud noises.
Lucas, the sun conure down the block for example.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 04:00 PM (RsSPG)

24 Cats have been known to go missing for years, and then return.)

My childhood tuxedo cat escaped from the vet. Over a year later coming home from trick-or-treat, there she was on the front porch!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025


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My boyhood cat, Rusty the big red tabby, vanished one day from the house and patio. We searched everywhere for him -- and he was terrified of strangers, so he would not willingly have gone out the gate onto the street, even if he'd had the chance. We walked all around the area, calling him, hoping against hope that he hadn't been run over.

Three days later he was at the kitchen door, squeaking piteously for food. We guessed that he'd been startled into running into the back door of the shop that opened on our patio, or crept in to explore, then been too frightened or confused to leave until someone left the door open once more. He never vanished again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:01 PM (omVj0)

25 I love the description of Misty from the essay, "endlessly enthused about everthing". Sometimes it feels great to see a critter who feels like that.

Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 04:01 PM (xekrU)

26 The trouble with cats is that 4000 years ago the Egyptians worshiped them and they never forgot.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025 03:57 PM (ZmEVT)

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https://tinyurl.com/yhdjst88

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 21, 2025 04:02 PM (aeiyZ)

27 The trouble with cats is that 4000 years ago the Egyptians worshiped them and they never forgot.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2025


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There's a New Yorker cartoon about that. The man of the house eyes the cat and says, "The fact you were considered sacred in Ancient Egypt cuts no ice with me."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:03 PM (omVj0)

28 We lost our tuxedo cat about a year+ ago. She just never came home. We let the cats out for the day and they all come in at night. She had an AirTag but it was no help. She was the friendliest of our kittens.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2025 04:04 PM (/iXAp)

29 Stories like these are why my cats are indoor-only. I don't trust other inhabitants of my apartment complex, and I certainly don't trust that they'd avoid an animal when driving their ratty or neglected cars.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:06 PM (omVj0)

30 Wolfus,
We tried to keep them inside only but 2 of them were rescued from outside situations so they always wanted out and would escape when letting the dog out or when opening the front door. After a while we gave up trying to keep them in 100%.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2025 04:10 PM (YobFY)

31 I currently have a very happy cat melting into a fuzzy puddle in my lap.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (kpS4V)

32 On my walk I met a guy from the Humane Society walking a young dog. He said this was her first time out of the shelter and she was nervous and unsure.

I petted her and she sat next to me and leaned against my leg. It's great when you're nice to a dog and they decide you've earned their trust.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (CHHv1)

33 Aside from Marie, I'd like to think all my cats have been happy in their indoor lives. Wolf, the big shaggy black cat whom I adopted after his worthless humans left him behind, more than once strolled outside and simply sprawled on the walkway, then trotted back when I called him. Clearly he liked his indoor life. Tatiana the Wonder Siberian loved to play with her toys, including our "bring it back" game when I threw the small ball for her and she would race after it and return with it in her jaws for me to throw again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:11 PM (omVj0)

34 (Though it's only been, what, two weeks now? Cats have been known to go missing for years, and then return.)

The first cat I ever lived with disappeared in July. She came back in November...of the following year. So it can happen.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 04:13 PM (CHHv1)

35 My little Chi must have Food-dar.......

Built in hearing for the Fridge Door and Plastic Wrappers bring opened. Within 5 seconds I turn around and there is the little beggar.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 04:16 PM (1sBXy)

36 My little Chi must have Food-dar.......

Built in hearing for the Fridge Door and Plastic Wrappers bring opened. Within 5 seconds I turn around and there is the little beggar.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025


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My cats are that way about the water from the tap. If I walk into the bathroom, one or both of them flies in after me and sits on the edge of the sink. They do that if I turn the tap on in the kitchen, too. I expect enthusiasm about breakfast and dinner, but their love of running water -- when they have a recirculating fountain and a bowl of fresh water changed at each meal -- startles me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2025 04:19 PM (omVj0)

37 re: Misty.

Double check nearby closed spaces.
Holly got into a maintenance closet for a week once.

Permanently on rabbit patrol about 5 years now.

Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2025 04:21 PM (FhXTo)

38
Busy early part of the week. Time for the Summer Death March. Her Majesty returns this afternoon from picking Varus up to be our guest.

Monday, Puff and Ruth get baths and the RV gets loaded. Tuesday, we take four dogs (Puff, Ruth, Dot and Dan) to Texas A&M for heart tests as part of a study there.

On returning, the crates are removed from the front and Varus and Rosalind go up to Oklahoma City for five days, then come down to Dallas for three. So HM is away for two weeks.

Then it's San Antonio the next weekend, then Houston the week after that, then Longview the week after that. Busy July.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 04:21 PM (QnmlO)

39 Why does that country called Guam let the Evil Trump admisteration let B-2 bonber things land their?

We be should do something to stop this county letting then land their.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 04:22 PM (aKoaI)

40 Sorry about Misty, Bob. What a beautiful and happy cat she sounds like. Thanks for sharing your story. We've had several cats that just disappeared. It is very hard!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 04:24 PM (2GCMq)

41 And Misty making herself comfortable in the sink is hilarious.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (7xrfc)
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Yep!

I can identify with that. Kaylee the Calico Kitty Cat (the cutest little cat of them all) used to do the same thing when she was a young cat. She doesn't do that anymore, though. Don't know why.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 04:27 PM (IBQGV)

42 Great picture of the roadrunner.

I assume that Senator Padilla was just out of the shot, running with an anvil in his hands?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 21, 2025 04:30 PM (HlyYF)

43 All kitties in my AO have assumed the "napping position," which is only appropriate for a hot Saturday afternoon in June.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (IBQGV)

44 Padilla replaced Hooker Harris as Senator from Californica.

Enough said..............

Posted by: Buster Hymand at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (q/j2W)

45 I hope the conure hatching project comes off to perfection!

All baby birds look like they are born "preemies" to me.

Dang do they grow fast though when their parents are bringing lots of food.

It is almost magical to my eye that is more calibrated to watching mammals grow up.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 21, 2025 04:33 PM (HlyYF)

46 green cheek conure

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That's clearly a dinosaur

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 04:38 PM (Splbu)

47 There's wisdom in the words of vmom.

Posted by: FLanole at June 21, 2025 04:54 PM (ZnrCl)

48 The ensure tv commercial where the stuff in the fridge goes "whee!" reminds me of Mr Senegal.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2025 04:54 PM (/B+k3)

49 Yay, Pet Thread. Thanks KT and glad to see you back in the saddle.

Took the new puppy out for her maiden voyage on our pontoon. Just went to get gas and came home. About a 30 minute adventure and she seemed to like the ride but not the heat. Don't think she'll be taking any long rides on the 'toon this summer.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 21, 2025 05:02 PM (DfkdK)

50 Misty is such a pretty cat and I'm holding out hope for a safe return. I'm so sorry, the not knowing is the worst.

Prayers sent.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 05:10 PM (QsMb/)

51 green cheek conure

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That's clearly a dinosaur
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
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I'm seeing the same thing. Wake up one day and it's a T-Rex. Not our TRex, but a Rex.

Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 05:11 PM (41CYW)

52 Billy and Bella are gorgeous and I can't wait to see your other kitty.

Billy looks like a happy, good boy and. Bella is regal.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 05:14 PM (QsMb/)

53 The baby birds are fascinating. I had to search to see which bird it was but I've seen them on the internet but I've never met one.

The eggs look big and I want to see updates.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 05:15 PM (QsMb/)

54 A coyote had to be close by.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 05:19 PM (VofaG)

55 My current cat went missing for a couple of months when she was young. She's always been a strictly indoor cat, but she sure wanted to get those birds she could see through the window. She'd be plastered to the glass any time there were birds in the yard and would try to make a break for it any time the door was open.

One day she succeeded and apparently got lost. I thought she was gone for good until one day there was a knock on the door.

Turns out she'd been taken in by a very nice couple who took good care of her until their landlord got wind of it (they weren't allowed to have pets). Very sadly, they took her to the Humane Society. The Humane Society scanned her, found the chip, and told them where she belonged, so they they insisted on returning her in person. They wouldn't take any reward, not even to cover the cost of cat food.

Thank God she had a chip.

Since then, she's never tried to get out the door even once, no matter how many tasty-looking birds are in the yard.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2025 05:29 PM (qpyNK)

Gardening, Nature and Home Thread, June 21

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Well, we're slowly catching up with a backlog of early photos from The Horde. Here are a couple from Don in Kansas:

I took the camera out to the local community college garden this afternoon. It’s early, but I did find a few things in bloom.

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Do they look enticing? More at the link.


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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

By-Tor has started a container garden and has his first harvest now:

Salads coming up?

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Fresh herbs, perfect for great homemade Italian dishes:

Oregano

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Basil

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Ah, Nature

NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker here, hoping you are healing and getting well. This is a gopher snake we saw on our property. It’s about 4’ long. We watched it slither down a gopher hole and disappeared.

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Gopher snakes are much more endearing than rattlesnakes. In my opinion, anyway.

I would much prefer to see a kitty following a gopher snake than a rattlesnake (though gopher snakes sometimes try to look like rattlesnakes).

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Orange dragonflies have arrived.
NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker

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Looks kind of exotic, I think.

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Puttering

Great idea from Teresa in Fort Worth:

I decided that I am going to start having flowers delivered to the house while I am still around to enjoy them! I have never seen Peonies before (they don't grow very well around these parts), so I am starting with these

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Gardens of The Horde

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Catching up with 40 Miles North, whose garden started showing signs of life a while ago:

Hi KT,

I was hoping to find some shots good enough for your garden thread, and the lighting is really good before and after the rain. Everything is waking up at the same time. Irises are getting ready to bloom, and I'm going to get nectarines this year:

The grapes are already waking up. The first leaves always have a touch of blue :

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Here is one of my smaller fig trees in front of an ocean of amaryllis and some irises:

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There is one, and only one, swallow tail aquilegia:

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A Gaillardia:

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I love the aquilegia. Excited for nectarines!


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:25 PM (+qU29)

2 HI, Skip!

Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 01:27 PM (xekrU)

3 Never did get any tomatoes, only bought cucumbers and Anaheim peppers. Have lots of some kind of squash volunteers a day still waiting to see if a crop of bunnies start.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM (+qU29)

4 It's 99 today with a 25 mph wind. So far, I am keeping things going but I really need to transplant tomatoes. We have one more fairly hot day and then some rain. I''m going to try and get it all done then.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 01:28 PM (AcTAo)

5 No gardening, but I mowed about 3/4 of 'lawn'. Had to double-cut the bahia. I have a new set of blades but Mrs. E won't let me change them by myself.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 01:30 PM (LHPAg)

6 I get the hydroponic basil sold at grocery store. I think they are for inside window box. Again this year they are struggling. I really should get basil and oregano fresh for salads every day but don't always.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:31 PM (+qU29)

7 I just learned that I can lookup photos of the local South Carolina flora from the photos app on my phone. I’ll submit some for next week.

Posted by: Unkaren at June 21, 2025 01:37 PM (8Rozl)

8 Bow, Minnifer wants to sit on my lap cause I smell like grass

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2025 01:38 PM (LHPAg)

9 I have some Anaheim peppers well started, the first ones never seem to get ripe no matter if I leave them on the plant or pick them.
And mom bunny has a nest in my oregano patch for over a week but no crop of bunnies yet.
She did it last year in the other oregano patch

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:49 PM (+qU29)

10 Aha! I'm not the only one with a bumper crop of basil!

What exactly are we supposed to do with basil? I can't eat it all while it's fresh.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 21, 2025 01:54 PM (MX0bI)

11 >>What exactly are we supposed to do with basil? I can't eat it all while it's fresh.

Make pesto!

Lots of recipes online.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 01:56 PM (rdVOm)

12 I put fresh basil and oregano in lots of food. But don't save the fresh and dry it for off season.
Take fresh and put inside in a bowl, it will dry out and then grind or chop fine

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 01:57 PM (+qU29)

13 I've made a native carnivorous plant bog planter: Venus flytrap, Sarracenia, and two types of sundew. So far, they are thriving on the combo of SC sun, rain, and bugs.

The only maintenance is to take it in when using auto sprinklers in the lawn, as tap water kills them.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 01:59 PM (wBaIH)

14 I could chew up some basil in pesto form. I can probably get pine nuts somewhere. I've also got San Marzano tomatoes coming, so I can dry some basil and add it when I can the tomatoes.

I don't use a hell of a lot of basil in my regular cooking, but there's a basil-intensive recipe for "Sunday Sauce" on kitchn. I tried it once and it came out fan-freakin-tastic.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 21, 2025 02:08 PM (MX0bI)

15 I I am trying to decide what to plant in front of my black wooden fence in my side yard that will look pretty year round, and would have flowers. I'm in growing zone 7A, and the fence is in part shade although usually gets some afternoon sunshine. Because it faces West.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Beverly at June 21, 2025 02:13 PM (Epeb0)

16 Costco sells pine nuts in kilo bags that will last a lifetime (if refrigerated)

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 02:15 PM (wBaIH)

17 I have a sprinkler system for the first time in my life. Sure does make watering a lot less time consuming though I enjoyed getting the hose out and just zoning out , lost in my thoughts when watering previously.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:16 PM (rWvc2)

18 The only maintenance is to take it in when using auto sprinklers in the lawn, as tap water kills them.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 01:59 PM (wBaIH)

I've been worrying whether the tap water I have now is hurting because it seems to have a lot of chlorine in it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 02:18 PM (rWvc2)

19 Such beautiful flowers today. It's good to have you back, KT.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at June 21, 2025 02:22 PM (bj34f)

20 Carnivorous plants can only take distilled, reverse osmosis or rain water. Also no fertilizer/soil -- they depend on bugs for nutrients.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 21, 2025 02:33 PM (wBaIH)

21 "What exactly are we supposed to do with basil? I can't eat it all while it's fresh."
"Make pesto!"

We had a huge basil plant about 15 years ago and I did just that with its output--and froze a lot of it. I still kind of like pesto, but that binge pretty much cooled me on it as a frequent ingredient.

FYI, you can make pesto with pretty much any green or herb and any nut. Being a Texan I've made pecan/cilantro pesto. Any pesto made with raw spinach is good, too.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 21, 2025 02:35 PM (FEVMW)

22 You can use walnuts to make pesto

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 02:36 PM (AcTAo)

23 Wish I had some gardening news to share but the weather this week has been uninviting. Nasty thunder storms kept popping up, some severe. Now we have sunlight and unusually high temps. Don't care for either type.

OTOH, the folks at the VaMoMe should at least have dry conditions instead of Amazon jungle humidity.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 02:51 PM (yTvNw)

24 KT and all,
Thanks for those gorgeous photos in the thread. Looking at them, enjoying the delicate forms and colors, is so relaxing.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 02:56 PM (yTvNw)

25 Wish I had some gardening news to share but the weather this week has been uninviting. Nasty thunder storms kept popping up, some severe. Now we have sunlight and unusually high temps. Don't care for either type.

OTOH, the folks at the VaMoMe should at least have dry conditions instead of Amazon jungle humidity.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 02:51 PM


We had that two weeks ago. Violent thunder storms came through last Sunday night close to 11pm. Our phones went off with a tornado warning and then the town warning sirens went off. We got dressed and started heading to our safe room. A tornado went right over our house according to the NWS tracking map.


It blew up the neighborhood, trees down all over the place. smashed cars and houses on every block, people are still cleaning up from it. Luckily not a single person was hurt. All we lost was our last surviving rose bush, all of the others were killed in the freeze we had five years ago. The tornado flattened it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 21, 2025 02:58 PM (e5NfL)

26 Congratulations on your tomato, By-Tor. A true herald of summer.

My first maters out the gate are little Striped Romas, Green Giants, and Sun-Arctic Plenties. Every plant is loaded with buds though. I have banana peppers bustin' out too.

My home pollinator garden is bursting with flowers. The local deer cropped off my pretty lavender Canterbury Bells. Grrrr...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2025 02:59 PM (kpS4V)

27 Teresa in FT Worth

The peonies are beautiful. Is the peach colored flower a peony or a rose? It looks like a David Austin Rose

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 02:59 PM (QsMb/)

28 Really should get the weed trimmer out but it's getting very hot. Always put on rain pains and fast shield on as nasty stuff gets flying then a shower immediately aftrr

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:00 PM (+qU29)

29 25 ... Mister Scott,

Glad you are OK. We've had some tornado watches here but nothing touched down, fortunately. The storms did have high enough winds to take down some trees and power lines. This week is sunshine and high temps. Already looking forward to autumn. :-)

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2025 03:06 PM (yTvNw)

30 You can use walnuts to make pesto
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 21, 2025 02:36 PM


Roasted almonds work too.

Posted by: toby928 at June 21, 2025 03:09 PM (jc0TO)

31 Lovely pictures. Thanks so much. Today on my travels I saw a small field with these. They were one of my mother's favorite flowers and I am always reminded of her when I see them:

https://tinyurl.com/4t7p9xpw

Cornflowers!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 03:19 PM (2GCMq)

32 I forgot to send pics. I will this week KT !

I see a snake, I chop it up.

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 03:22 PM (iGK7y)

33 Snakes do eat mice and other rodents, they are not after you

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:28 PM (+qU29)

34 Wow! That aquilegia has the longest tails I think I have ever seen on one!

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 21, 2025 03:29 PM (rF2iL)

35 33 Snakes do eat mice and other rodents, they are not after you
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 03:28 PM (+qU29)

I already have rodent control.

Snakes chose poorly if I see them.

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 03:32 PM (iGK7y)

36 I cut up at least an 8 foot black snake last spring.

With my lawnmower. It looked like a race track across my lawn until I straightened up the lines. Fast sunnuva B.

Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 03:34 PM (iGK7y)

37 I've never seen a columbine with those long tails! Would love one of those.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 21, 2025 03:36 PM (w6EFb)

38 I like the bud break picture too.

Great pictures today.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 21, 2025 03:45 PM (QsMb/)

39 Miley, okravangelist at June 21, 2025 03:36 PM

I think that's the state flower of Arizona.

Posted by: KT at June 21, 2025 04:03 PM (xekrU)

40 If anyone has a Trader Joe around, you can treat yourself to beautiful flowers from peonies to roses, and orchids weekly.

Posted by: Nan in AZ at June 21, 2025 04:14 PM (xDvzW)

41
I grabbed the Red Phone and yelled, "Hello!
These plants look all spindly and yellow!"
"Why, don't poke and tease 'em,
Give Epso-Magneezyum."
Said an amiable internet fellow.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 21, 2025 04:32 PM (MX0bI)

42 My backyard maple was taken down. It took two days.

To get the bucket into place, the two-man crew had to drive it over my big, beautiful hosta. So they used shovels to loosen it and hoist it out with a scoop. I mentioned I planned to replant it in the fall because it prefers more shade. THEY MOVED IT FOR ME!

The backyard is an unholy mess of mud and crushed-to-oblivion sedum. But the hosta is alive! All 100+ pounds of it!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2025 04:34 PM (l0yA3)

43 I planted groundcover strawberries years ago to make a barefoot-friendly spot near the deck. They were tiny berries which the birds would eat and spread. There are almost none now because rabbits love them.

Eastern fox snakes live around here. I was disturbed the first time I saw one in a tree, but they're non-venomous. This is the only place I've ever been where kids are taught to move snakes to safety. The neighbor kids called them "stinky snakes" because they give off a musky smell if dogs or cats disturb them.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2025 04:57 PM (l0yA3)

44 From Boise area: A hot week, until today - major cool front came through, with some sprinkles last night.

I finally caught up on weeding the raised beds, and even completely weeded the rows of beans and peas in the "corn" patch. Not many beans came up, so I replanted. I did see the first pods on the shelling peas.

Strawberries have gone from a flood to a trickle. I pick every 2nd-3rd day. I eat a lot of lettuce because the new variety is ... enthusiastic. I do need to remember next year, to actually follow the spacing instructions on the package; I tend to grow stuff too close together. Cabbages *really* need more space than I gave them.

We topped up the bags of Yukon Golds and Russet Burbank potatoes, using the last of our homemade compost, plus some from a planter pot we weren't using. (I decided not to grow sweet potatoes this year.) Hopefully the current bins-in-process will be ready for next year.

Our best flowers are by the back shed, where only we see them - Johnny Jump-Up pansies, fireweed, and red penstemon - and the marigolds are in the vegetable beds. The linden tree is blooming, but needed to be trimmed, so I brought some of the flowers indoors for a vase.

Posted by: Pat* at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (nN4Sp)

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