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ICE Prepares Plan to Deport Illegals to Third-Party Countries With As Little As Six Hours Notice
A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter. She also ruled that before anyone can even ask about an illegal's status, he must first have a "reasonable suspicion" that he's illegal. In other words: She's demanding that judges approve all arrests of illegals ahead-of-time.
Illegal immigrants could be given as little as six hours notice before they are deported to a country other than their homeland, according to a new memo. Todd Lyons, the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and a top Trump administration lieutenant, issued a directive to agency staff on Wednesday, July 9, outlining the direction of deportations moving forward. He said migrants could be deported to a 'third country' with as little as six hours notice 'in exigent circumstances' -- so long as the person had been given an opportunity to speak with an attorney. Generally, an immigrant will be given 24 hours notice before they are sent to a country other than their homeland. The memo states that migrants could be sent to nations that have pledged not to persecute or torture them 'without the need for further procedures.' The United States has sent hundreds of migrants to Costa Rica, El Salvador and Panama, while South Sudan recently accepted eight third--country deportees. These deportees were from Cuba, Laos, Mexico, Myanmar, Sudan and Vietnam.
President Donald Trump's administration suffered a blow on Friday when a federal judge concluded that federal agents had been "unlawfully" arresting suspected illegal migrants in Los Angeles and six surrounding counties. Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, imposed two temporary restraining orders banning law enforcement from detaining suspected illegal migrants in the area without reasonable suspicion and insisting those arrested must have access to legal counsel. Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Newsweek in a statement: "A district judge is undermining the will of the American people." ...
On Friday Judge Frimpong concluded there was "a mountain of evidence" that federal agents had been arresting people solely based on characteristics such as race, employment and accent, which she termed a violation of the Fourth Amendment that prohibits unreasonable seizures by the government. Referring to some arrests in Los Angeles and the six counties Frimpong said: "The seizures at issue occurred unlawfully." Two temporary restraining orders were issued by the judge banning federal agents in Los Angeles and surrounding counties from making arrests without reasonable suspicion those detained were in the country illegally, and requiring arrestees to get swift access to lawyers.
BREAKING - Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, has just made a ruling that marks Home Depots, car washes, and other locations where illegals hide as safe havens in LA blocking ICE from making arrests at those locations. pic.twitter.com/zVn9lZHJgl
— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) July 10, 2025
As ICE agents face a 700% increase in assaults—including ambushes by armed assailants—@RepJeffries refuses to condemn the violent rhetoric of Radical Left Dems.
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) July 9, 2025
"'There needs to be blood' ... How do you respond to that?"
JEFFRIES: Trump is assaulting the American way of life. pic.twitter.com/GdBI4UFzOf
Related: DataRepublican points out, again, that illegal immigrant workers are not in fact cheap at all. They're cheap for their illegal employers -- but expensive for the taxpayers who are forced to subsidize them.
Tom Homan is tired of the sissyboys:
DataRepublican (small r)
@DataRepublican According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies (pro-immigrant), many immigrants work for extremely low wages, which are then subsidized by taxpayers through public assistance. The argument that "someone has to pick your lettuce" is dead; there is no "cheap labor" only corporate subsidies at our taxpayer expense. It might even end up being cheaper for businesses holistically when they are forced to pay actual market wages rather than depending on roundabout benefits. 🔸 54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households. 🔸 Non-citizen households (e.g., green card holders and illegal immigrants) show the highest usage at 59%. 🔸 Compared to U.S.-born households, immigrant households show elevated usage in:
- Food assistance programs: 36% vs. 25%
- Medicaid: 37% vs. 25%
- Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC): 16% vs. 12% 🔸 Illegal immigrants can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children, while children who are illegal immigrants themselves are eligible for school meals and WIC. 🔸 Several states provide Medicaid or SNAP to some illegal immigrants, and millions of undocumented immigrants with work permits (DACA, TPS, asylum applicants) qualify for EITC. 🔸 Removing low-cost programs like school meals and WIC from the analysis still shows 46% of immigrant households vs. 33% of U.S.-born households use at least one remaining major program. 🔸 Workforce participation is high: 83% of immigrant households and 94% of illegal immigrant households have at least one worker.
🚨 JUST IN: Tom Homan DEMOLISHES a heckler interrupting his speech at TPUSA
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) July 12, 2025
HOMAN: “This guy doesn't have the balls to be an ICE officer!"
"The ONLY thing that surprises me is that he doesn’t have purple hair and a nose ring"
"I GUARANTEE you this guy sits down to pee” 🤣🔥 pic.twitter.com/tEQEyGICS3
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What?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 03:31 PM (YwEeS)
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How the fuck does some judge make areas off limits to Federal law enforcement?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 03:32 PM (YwEeS)
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Mark Krikorian's Center for Immigration Studies is not all that pro-immigrant.
Posted by: Egg Shen, Bus Philosophiser at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (UH65p)
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Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
What the hell part of Merica did she come from?
What the hell part of Merica did she come from?
Posted by: barkie at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (5yGIt)
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"Get out on your own, or you go to South Sudan."
Really, this will be directed at people that their home countries won't accept back (murders and other criminals), but it's a great message to spread throughout the illegal immigrant community.
Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Really, this will be directed at people that their home countries won't accept back (murders and other criminals), but it's a great message to spread throughout the illegal immigrant community.
Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (PSEDc)
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"Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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7 "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter.
Poe's Law strikes again. I was sure that was signature Ace snark until I scrolled down a bit.
Poe's Law strikes again. I was sure that was signature Ace snark until I scrolled down a bit.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (/y8xj)
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Illegals have no legal protections.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," ...
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (oDm7W)
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>>>A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong,"
Quick, we need more LEGAL immigrants! Diversity is our strength!
(I'm just kidding, I know Maame comes from the old New England family of Frimpong's who have been here since the 1600's).
Quick, we need more LEGAL immigrants! Diversity is our strength!
(I'm just kidding, I know Maame comes from the old New England family of Frimpong's who have been here since the 1600's).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (uCjyK)
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10 Illegals have no legal protections.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, that's all wrong. But other than that, it's all right.
If Trump wanted to have them summarily shot he could, and frankly that is more normally how you handle invaders historically.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, that's all wrong. But other than that, it's all right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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OK!
All you hombres line up and count off by dos'!
All unos get on that plane to Moscow.
All dos's get on that plane to Kiev.
Hasta la vista Amigos!
All you hombres line up and count off by dos'!
All unos get on that plane to Moscow.
All dos's get on that plane to Kiev.
Hasta la vista Amigos!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (W/lyH)
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Speed bump to be knocked down quickly
Posted by: Zeera. I voted for ALL of this at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (zPuD7)
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Her name is Mammy? Really?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (b17NP)
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In response to Tom Homan, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong said, “muak hua click click click!”
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (u73oe)
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"Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong"
I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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"See? I told you dumb lazy Americans."
-- Vivek R
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I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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"See? I told you dumb lazy Americans."
-- Vivek R
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (iFTx/)
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If they really think they're a refugee case, The can sit in a third world prison for processing or they can go home anytime. Choice is the illegal alien's.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (s19xO)
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🔸 54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households.
So is this counting legal AND illegal immigrants?
So is this counting legal AND illegal immigrants?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (t0Rmr)
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I looked her up. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn she's a rich kid born to Ghanaian immigrants. She attended all the right private schools and graduated -- of course -- from Hahvad and Yale. Double-barrel goodness!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, weird how when we import people from the highest castes in their home countries, they come here and treat anyone they view as "beneath" them the same way they do in their home countries.
I don't know much about the court system in Ghana, but I imagine it operates on much more of a "who you know" and corrupt class/caste-based basis than the American Court system (traditionally) does.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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Do you see the benefits of importing the world's educated classes now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, weird how when we import people from the highest castes in their home countries, they come here and treat anyone they view as "beneath" them the same way they do in their home countries.
I don't know much about the court system in Ghana, but I imagine it operates on much more of a "who you know" and corrupt class/caste-based basis than the American Court system (traditionally) does.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (uCjyK)
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I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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14 Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Is he from the Richmond Frimpongs?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
I believe she's from the Greenwich Frimpongs, they winter in Palm Beach I heard.
Is he from the Richmond Frimpongs?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
I believe she's from the Greenwich Frimpongs, they winter in Palm Beach I heard.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (gpah0)
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20 If they really think they're a refugee case, The can sit in a third world prison for processing or they can go home anytime. Choice is the illegal alien's.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (s19xO)
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"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (s19xO)
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"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Mama Wooshy-Mensa Pingpong can blow it out her ear!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (NWqJf)
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So "judge" JimmyJammy WhammySlammy has enough time on it's hands to rule this or that about that and this.
Maybe time to abolish some of these "judges" positions as they seem to have a lot of free time on their hands to meddle in shit that has nothing to do with them or those.
Maybe time to abolish some of these "judges" positions as they seem to have a lot of free time on their hands to meddle in shit that has nothing to do with them or those.
Posted by: Deport Her Ass Too at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (rfMRc)
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Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong Is the judge who until recently said ni.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (u73oe)
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"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
The best part of this line from the left is the US government has friendly relations with pretty much all of these countries.
"All of these people are like Anne Frank, and Nazi-like genocides are happening around the world right now, which is why we have to let everyone in."
The best part of this line from the left is the US government has friendly relations with pretty much all of these countries.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (t0Rmr)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," has just declared the Home Depots, car washes, and other places that illegal aliens hide are safe havens that ICE agents are forbidden to enter.
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Maybe I'm being to clever by half but the illegal aliens are not "hiding" in those places. They want to be seen looking for work.
ICE: Judge Frimpong, they were not hiding at the Home Depot. Quite the opposite.
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Maybe I'm being to clever by half but the illegal aliens are not "hiding" in those places. They want to be seen looking for work.
ICE: Judge Frimpong, they were not hiding at the Home Depot. Quite the opposite.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (G0vdT)
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I thought at first you made up that name for comic effect, Ace, but noooo.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (2GCMq)
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she was with Millennium Challenge Corporation; US AID has a sibling !
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (g47mK)
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There needs to be blood' ... How do you respond to that?"
JEFFRIES: Trump is assaulting the American way of life.
The American way of life is doing just fine. Come to my little town Hakeem and spout that sh*t. Let's see how that goes.
(better bring a few friends, you made need them)\
JEFFRIES: Trump is assaulting the American way of life.
The American way of life is doing just fine. Come to my little town Hakeem and spout that sh*t. Let's see how that goes.
(better bring a few friends, you made need them)\
Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (W/lyH)
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Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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23 I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (G0vdT)
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34 Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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"It's a bit much."
-George Lucas
Good grief, that's an actual name?
I thought for sure that had to be a satirical product of Ace's cruel and perfervid imagination.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (77rzZ)
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"It's a bit much."
-George Lucas
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
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Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong...
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"Fundamentally non-serious" choice. I looked so you didn't have to.
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"Fundamentally non-serious" choice. I looked so you didn't have to.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (TN0g+)
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"The ONLY thing that surprises me is that he doesn’t have purple hair and a nose ring"
10,000% tariff on clown colored hair dye?
10,000% tariff on clown colored hair dye?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (pIfcn)
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Someone needs to investigate the immigration status of this MammyJammer FriggPong very, very, very thoroughly.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (qpyNK)
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> Biden-appointed judge, Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, has just made a ruling that marks Home Depots, car washes, and other locations where illegals hide as safe havens in LA blocking ICE from making arrests at those locations.
So stage your guys just outside of those locations and hire someone to run through screaming, "LA MIGRA!!" Scoop them up when they run to you.
So stage your guys just outside of those locations and hire someone to run through screaming, "LA MIGRA!!" Scoop them up when they run to you.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (lIio7)
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I wonder if this is part of the humiliation kink for the Ruling Class / Deep State.
Having people named Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong lord over us as little dictators in robes.
Well, I guess it's not really a kink. They like watching us be bossed around by the ruling class from the third world. They don't have to deal with that.
Having people named Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong lord over us as little dictators in robes.
Well, I guess it's not really a kink. They like watching us be bossed around by the ruling class from the third world. They don't have to deal with that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (uCjyK)
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35 23 I predict this judge will soon be known as "Judge Ping-Pong."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM
I second Judge Ding Dong.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (omVj0)
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I'm partial to Judge Ding-Dong.
Posted by: WisRich at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM
I second Judge Ding Dong.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (gpah0)
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Is Federal law enforcement like tag with safe areas? I wasn't aware of that rule.
Posted by: MJR at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (spihY)
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How many republican senators voted to confirm her?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (u73oe)
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More of this.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (N1DT3)
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California judge. Figures.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 03:43 PM (2GCMq)
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I'm so freaking tired of foreigners infesting our legal system.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (77rzZ)
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Serious question, are there citizens in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work as day laborers?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (Qr870)
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Can we denaturalize this judge?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (NWqJf)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (lIio7)
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How many children will die because Trump is Darth Vader ?
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (aKoaI)
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Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Sounds good to me.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Maria, cleaning houses and otherwise keeping her nose clean, might just say, "I'm not risking it. I'm going back to Guatemala."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Sounds good to me.
Mr. Homan, sir: Now it's time to start prosecuting the people who *hire* these illegals, knowingly or unknowingly (as unlikely as the latter case is). Make a few examples, and employers will suddenly become much more reluctant to hire someone who even *might* be an illegal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)
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A Biden-appointed judge, "Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong," ...
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
Posted by: ShainS at
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That's what I thought, then I goggled it. She's real!
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Ace really has a penchant & gift for creating funny fake names.
I mean, that is a fake name right?
Posted by: ShainS at
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That's what I thought, then I goggled it. She's real!
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:44 PM (UjdFS)
Surprise! Treasury Department Reports an Unexpected +$27 Billion Surplus in June, Compared to a -$71 Billion Deficit in June 2024 Under "President" Biden
The increased revenues come from Trump's tariffs.
Americans who aren't used to seeing the words "government" and "surplus" in the same sentence are in for a surprise. The federal government ran at a surplus in June, according to the Treasury Department, meaning money coming in surpassed money going out. And it was largely money coming in from President Donald Trump's tariffs that made the difference, according to news reports. According to CNBC, tariffs collected on goods imported into the country for sale totaled $27 billion for the month, up from $23 billion in May, and a whopping 301 percent more than the figure from June 2024, when President Joe Biden was in office. In that month a year ago, the government ran a $71 billion deficit, CNBC reported. Completing the turnaround, the June 2025 surplus number compared to a deficit in May of $316 billion, according to CNBC. (The deficit in May 2024 was even higher, $347 billion, Reuters reported at the time.) According to the Treasury Department report, tariffs, recorded as "Customs duties," were still a small part of the government's revenue. With the government's largest revenue streams -- including individual and corporate income taxes -- making up $236 billion of the month's revenues, Social Security and retirement taxes combining for $487 billion in government revenue for the month, the $27 billion in tariffs is comparatively small. But the difference is substantial, since, according to the financial news website Investing.com, analysts "had expected a deficit of $41.5 billion." As CNBC put it: "Increasing tariff collections are helping shore up the government finances."
Trump's economic advisor predicts that Trump's tariffs will raise $3 trilly over the next ten years.
The last time the government generated a monthly surplus was back in 2017, Trump's first term.
National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett said that tariffs will raise $3 trillion in new revenue over the next decade. "The bottom line is that President Trump has produced a huge amount of tariff revenue with the tariffs we've seen in the first half of the year," Hassett told ABC News on Sunday. "The Congressional Budget Office has said that tariff revenue over the next 10 years, which will help reduce the deficit and secure our entitlement programs, is $3 trillion. And consumers haven't seen that. "You know, consumer price index, inflation rate now is the lowest it's been in over a decade. And so what President Trump has always said is that the foreign suppliers, the foreign governments are gonna bear most of the tariffs, it's being visibly seen, and I think that that's probably affecting his negotiating position, because we've got all this empirical evidence that his position has been proven correct in the data."
JUST IN: US Treasury hits surplus for June 2025 thanks to Tariffs, leftist CNBC admits.
— Resist the Mainstream (@ResisttheMS) July 11, 2025
The $27+ billion surplus came as a surprise after the $316 billion deficit in May.
The last time a surplus occurred was during President Trump's first term in 2017. pic.twitter.com/cXM9BHzUFg
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (N1DT3)
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Almost like everything we've been told for the past 50 years has been wrong...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
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LIES! Tariffs kill!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)
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But tariffs are bad...
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (YwEeS)
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The posts are flyin' today!
The posts are flyin' today!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (xp7+v)
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Only other countries can use tariffs for their benefit...
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (YwEeS)
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Unpossible! I was told that tariffs would crash the economy and kill puppies!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (u73oe)
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I'm a trained economist (though that's not my job now) and the biggest failing economists have is believing that their theories that work with all other things being equal HAVE TO work like that in the real world.
I had a very good professor (who was an Austrian, btw), who would often say "When I look out the window, it doesn't work like that"
That's the kind of humility economists need.
I had a very good professor (who was an Austrian, btw), who would often say "When I look out the window, it doesn't work like that"
That's the kind of humility economists need.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
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We really need a deficit of credentialed cretins.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (6iQ9H)
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But, but, tariffs bad. Everyone says so.
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (sFNX2)
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I looked at the pattern.
Over the past 5 years, June is somewhere between a slight slowdown in growth to a continuation of the growth in May.
An outright reversal is...unusual.
We'll see.
Over the past 5 years, June is somewhere between a slight slowdown in growth to a continuation of the growth in May.
An outright reversal is...unusual.
We'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump gets lucky again!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (Qr870)
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Sometimes it's nice to be the biggest dog in the yard.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (u82oZ)
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Heh. A lefty acquaintance had recently complained to me that Trump doesn't care about people; he only wants to win.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
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"Here's why surpluses are actually a bad thing."
Posted by: 496 at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Wk8nw)
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14 Heh. A lefty acquaintance had recently complained to me that Trump doesn't care about people; he only wants to win.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
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"So?"
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
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"So?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Replacing unfunded spending with tariff revenue can only reduce the calculated GDP! Why does Trump want to crush the GDP numbers!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
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15 "Here's why surpluses are actually a bad thing."
Posted by: 496 at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Wk8nw)
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"This will lead to Congress just spending more. Trump is betraying MAGA."
-Charlie Kirk, 75% probability
Posted by: 496 at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Wk8nw)
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"This will lead to Congress just spending more. Trump is betraying MAGA."
-Charlie Kirk, 75% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Now if we can only get congress to cut spending we will be cooking with grease.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (XV/Pl)
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I like how a wag whose name I cannot recall (sorry, wag) who said "this isn't a surplus. Its an interest payment."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (dfIr7)
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Assume a can opener . . .
Posted by: Shipwrecked Economist at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (Qr870)
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21 Assume a can opener . . .
Posted by: Shipwrecked Economist at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
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"Next to the spherical chicken?"
-Shipwrecked physicist
Posted by: Shipwrecked Economist at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (wVcYX)
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"Next to the spherical chicken?"
-Shipwrecked physicist
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)
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I had a very good professor (who was an Austrian, btw), who would often say "When I look out the window, it doesn't work like that"
That's the kind of humility economists need.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
We just need to assign the correct calculation to the "Util" to understand the actual value of Marginal Utility.
That's the kind of humility economists need.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
We just need to assign the correct calculation to the "Util" to understand the actual value of Marginal Utility.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (D7oie)
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Don't tell the Dems. They'll scream "we can afford health care for illegals, sex "reassignment " surgery for minors, pay off student loans..."
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (Ry3Y5)
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“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the event on Friday, according to excerpts of his remarks exclusively obtained and released by CNN.
“You know, don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he reportedly said, expressing his disdain for the collective embrace of Democratic victimhood.
... but .. but victimhood is the currency of the realm
“You know, don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he reportedly said, expressing his disdain for the collective embrace of Democratic victimhood.
... but .. but victimhood is the currency of the realm
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (RHGPo)
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Is that good?
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (63Dwl)
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Economists and weather forecasters. Often wrong, never in doubt.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (u73oe)
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The fact that tariffs are raising so much money, while prices and inflation are trending down, gives credence to the theory -- espoused by geniuses like The Blade and others here -- that most if not all of the cost of the tariffs would be absorbed by the foreign exporter.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't nood Great Expectation haterz.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (fV+MH)
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Golly!
Posted by: Nobel Prize Economist and Enron Advisor Paul Krugman at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (wVcYX)
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This is what I voted for.
Posted by: Not tired of winning at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (bcy1V)
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So.. are we dead yet?
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (lPvx2)
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Heh. A lefty acquaintance had recently complained to me that Trump doesn't care about people; he only wants to win.
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
That acquaintance read that somewhere. It's classic persuasion and sloganeering.
Taking an obvious strength of Trump's and turning it into an apparent weakness.
Them for 10 straight years: Trump's a loser! Trump Steaks! Trump University! Felon!
Trump: (wins repeatedly)
Them: Trump only cares about winning!
Personally, I think Americans benefit when Trump wins.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rF2iL)
That acquaintance read that somewhere. It's classic persuasion and sloganeering.
Taking an obvious strength of Trump's and turning it into an apparent weakness.
Them for 10 straight years: Trump's a loser! Trump Steaks! Trump University! Felon!
Trump: (wins repeatedly)
Them: Trump only cares about winning!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)
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I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
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30 The fact that tariffs are raising so much money, while prices and inflation are trending down, gives credence to the theory -- espoused by geniuses like The Blade and others here -- that most if not all of the cost of the tariffs would be absorbed by the foreign exporter.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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Tariffs are a government fee. They don't increase the money supply. If they do anything to the money supply, it's reduce dollars flowing because of increased prices on targeted foreign goods.
They are minorly deflationary.
But every economist who screamed that tariffs are inflationary for the past 3 months will get paid more to teach economics than me.
Basically, it was foreign exporters -- perhaps in cahoots with US importers -- making obscene profits and are now making less obscene profits.
Some foreign governments (such as Japan) are subsidizing their companies' tariff costs.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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Tariffs are a government fee. They don't increase the money supply. If they do anything to the money supply, it's reduce dollars flowing because of increased prices on targeted foreign goods.
They are minorly deflationary.
But every economist who screamed that tariffs are inflationary for the past 3 months will get paid more to teach economics than me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
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This is yet another "experts say" that's false. That keeps happening.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (2ocoG)
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Unexpected by whom?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (viF8m)
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CNBC, and all the rest, including those "economists" are utter clowns. Buffoons of the highest order. Completely devoid of integrity. And deserving of zero respect.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (qBdHI)
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Tariffs are a tax on the American consumer!!! - Those People
The corporate tax rate is too low!!! - The Same People
The corporate tax rate is too low!!! - The Same People
Posted by: mikeski at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (DgGvY)
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He just raised tariffs on Mexico and the EU too.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (u73oe)
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So I don't know, obviously, but I thought I read somewhere that this surplus is a one time thing due to accounting tricks, such as bringing revenue forward or one time charges, etc., and that once this washes out of the system it will be back to deficits.
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
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I think we all should stop and think about this for a minute.
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
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Its funny how with tariffs the left/FNM has finally discovered people PAY the money the government gets from taxes.
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (t0Rmr)
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Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
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Can we officially now declare the media are retards?
Posted by: Weasel at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (rAX2y)
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You know why the narrative was that tariffs were inflationary?
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
All you have to do is look at where you read it.
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
All you have to do is look at where you read it.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (Qr870)
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But the last thread told me America Is Doomed!
Posted by: Can't keep up at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (bcy1V)
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I think we all should stop and think about this for a minute.
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
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It might cost $21 bucks now ....
Yes, this is more tax revenue for the US treasury. Yes, tariffs should bring jobs back to the US.
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
________
It might cost $21 bucks now ....
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
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Trump needs to slap the economists with a tariff. That'll teach them.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (V362x)
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43 So I don't know, obviously, but I thought I read somewhere that this surplus is a one time thing due to accounting tricks, such as bringing revenue forward or one time charges, etc., and that once this washes out of the system it will be back to deficits.
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
Yes, it's always budget gimmicks. There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year. Like every other year.
That said, it's more of a way to refute the stupid lies about tariffs our Free Trade (tm) Betters have been pushing on us for 40 years.
Anyone know if that take has any basis in reality?
Posted by: SimoHayha at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (5/e+B)
Yes, it's always budget gimmicks. There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year. Like every other year.
That said, it's more of a way to refute the stupid lies about tariffs our Free Trade (tm) Betters have been pushing on us for 40 years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (uCjyK)
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But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Superhero referencing post on this coming in this afternoon boss!
Well, presuming Paolo lets me get to my work computer in the house. Hard to write an article on my switch in the cuck shed after all
That hardly seems fair to them.
Superhero referencing post on this coming in this afternoon boss!
Well, presuming Paolo lets me get to my work computer in the house. Hard to write an article on my switch in the cuck shed after all
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (t0Rmr)
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>>Trump's economic advisor predicts that Trump's tariffs will raise $3 trilly over the next ten years.
Woo-hoo! We have $3T in new spending opportunities over the next ten years!
Woo-hoo! We have $3T in new spending opportunities over the next ten years!
Posted by: Congress at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Nobel Prize Economist and Enron Advisor Paul Krugman at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (wVcYX)
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All that sweet sweet potential graft
The poli-tick-ians weep
The poli-tick-ians weep
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:35 PM (Ch4Qk)
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If only anyone was still alive to know.
But, we're all dead from the first election of Trump, first Trump tax cuts, the end of net neutrality, the withdraw from the Paris Accords, the end of Roe v. Wade, the second election of Trump, the end of USAID, the the mass firings of federal workers, and now the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.
I'm dead so many times now, I've lost count.
But, we're all dead from the first election of Trump, first Trump tax cuts, the end of net neutrality, the withdraw from the Paris Accords, the end of Roe v. Wade, the second election of Trump, the end of USAID, the the mass firings of federal workers, and now the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.
I'm dead so many times now, I've lost count.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (JThEY)
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46 Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
lol, no.
But if you donate $5 TODAY, we'll stop the Big Spending Washington machine!
- RNC
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
lol, no.
But if you donate $5 TODAY, we'll stop the Big Spending Washington machine!
- RNC
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (uCjyK)
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It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.
They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (bcy1V)
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Sid hardest hit.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
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But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Muh lice bowr!
But have you thought about what effect this has on Chinese oligarchs and the CCP? They now have to pay slightly more money in order to sell in to the US economy.
That hardly seems fair to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Muh lice bowr!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (xG4kz)
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Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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So can we start paying down the debt, or will we just find something to waste it on (glares at Ukraine)?
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (zLwRl)
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61 Sid hardest hit.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
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Dude just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
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Dude just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)
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You know why the narrative was that tariffs were inflationary?
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
But, I'm sure that the next report over in the NYT is believable and well-researched and trustworthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
_____
Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
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Its funny how with tariffs the left/FNM has finally discovered people PAY the money the government gets from taxes.
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (t0Rmr)
Only little people pay taxes. Little people like you lot.
Unlike pretty much every other type of tax though some of the money that tariffs raise come from foreigners...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (t0Rmr)
Only little people pay taxes. Little people like you lot.
Posted by: Zombie Leona Helmsley, Queen of Mean at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (wVcYX)
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61 Sid hardest hit.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
I'd say Sid is AI except for the intelligence part....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
I'd say Sid is AI except for the intelligence part....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VE6XX)
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Can Jerome Powell read these words and know what to do? Fuck that Cuck.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (W3T6M)
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Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH Jul 12
The Govt had a $27,000,000,000 surplus one month.
The National Debt is $37,000,000,000,000.
The Surplus was 0.07% of the debt.
$76,750,000,000 in interest accrued on the national debt in the same month.
Tariffs aren't gonna fix the spending issue
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH Jul 13
By the way, it wasn't the first monthly surplus in 20 years, it was the 7th in 4 years.
Heck, the one in April was 10x as big, at $240 billion, but they never bragged about that because they didn't have the Epstein drama to distract the MAGA base from
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH 23h
Not to mention, it wasn't even a real surplus!
Just moving expenses from June to May, and increasing your outlay in May doesn't change that June didn't bring in enough revenue to cover June Expenses.
What's the difference between Bookkeeping and Accounting?
https://tinyurl.com/ywvvsuep
And I recall something about June 1 being a Sunday meant expenses were treated differently.
The Govt had a $27,000,000,000 surplus one month.
The National Debt is $37,000,000,000,000.
The Surplus was 0.07% of the debt.
$76,750,000,000 in interest accrued on the national debt in the same month.
Tariffs aren't gonna fix the spending issue
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH Jul 13
By the way, it wasn't the first monthly surplus in 20 years, it was the 7th in 4 years.
Heck, the one in April was 10x as big, at $240 billion, but they never bragged about that because they didn't have the Epstein drama to distract the MAGA base from
Justin O'Donnell @ODonnell4NH 23h
Not to mention, it wasn't even a real surplus!
Just moving expenses from June to May, and increasing your outlay in May doesn't change that June didn't bring in enough revenue to cover June Expenses.
What's the difference between Bookkeeping and Accounting?
https://tinyurl.com/ywvvsuep
And I recall something about June 1 being a Sunday meant expenses were treated differently.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (2yoRf)
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Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (tT6L1)
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66 Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
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"All rises in prices are inflation," is easy to understand.
And no economist who said anything along those lines should be treated with anything other than contempt and derision.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
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"All rises in prices are inflation," is easy to understand.
And no economist who said anything along those lines should be treated with anything other than contempt and derision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
It sounds valid, at first pass, because in theory tariffs cause companies to raise prices to pay for the tariffs, resulting in inflation. But in reality is a lot more complicated and actual, professional, and allegedly trained economists should have known better.
And perhaps they did, but ignored it to attack Trump. Or maybe they're just fools locked into an ideology. Maybe economics as a body is simply not scientific or rigorous so they cannot understand stuff like this. I don't know.
There was never any economic reason to say it or believe it.
It sounds valid, at first pass, because in theory tariffs cause companies to raise prices to pay for the tariffs, resulting in inflation. But in reality is a lot more complicated and actual, professional, and allegedly trained economists should have known better.
And perhaps they did, but ignored it to attack Trump. Or maybe they're just fools locked into an ideology. Maybe economics as a body is simply not scientific or rigorous so they cannot understand stuff like this. I don't know.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (dfIr7)
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63 Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (uCjyK)
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>>So can we start paying down the debt, or will we just find something to waste it on (glares at Ukraine)?
Trump just announced in the Oval with the head of NATO by his side that the EU will by buying weapons from us for Ukraine. Won't be costing us a penny.
Trump just announced in the Oval with the head of NATO by his side that the EU will by buying weapons from us for Ukraine. Won't be costing us a penny.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)
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Trump's economic advisor predicts that Trump's tariffs will raise $3 trilly over the next ten years.
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Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
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Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (OGOaV)
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Any time I hear a report about what "Economists" think, I treat that equivalently to what financial "experts" say about what stocks you should buy. In both instances, they are telling you what they want to happen, not what any sort of science actually happens, and in both cases they usually have personal incentives to pushing things to happen that way as well.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 02:41 PM (B9Prs)
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Justin, what is the source for your assertions? Grok or ChatGPT?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:41 PM (tT6L1)
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Well, I think it also was appealing on a lizard brain level. If inflation means higher prices, and tariffs mean imported good will cost more, then tariffs mean higher prices/inflation. Right? A lot of people swallowed that formulation, including more than a few commenting on this smart military blog.
Right, and it makes sense at first pass. But as Dolly's husband notes: not every price increase is inflation or inflationary. And its much more complicated, because tariffs don't seem to be affecting most consumer goods, like gasoline, food, books, etc.
Right, and it makes sense at first pass. But as Dolly's husband notes: not every price increase is inflation or inflationary. And its much more complicated, because tariffs don't seem to be affecting most consumer goods, like gasoline, food, books, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)
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I think regardless of how cooperative they are, every other country should be charged an import fee (tariff)
we need to stop being the major importer and become an exporter
enough "nation-building" - we did more than enough!
we need to stop being the major importer and become an exporter
enough "nation-building" - we did more than enough!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
81
The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
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>>> 71 Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (tT6L1)
Yep, it's going to take time for most to be convinced it's real and not a bluff.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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I think a number of them didn't believe the pause was actually a pause. In fact, experts in our own country probably advised them to wait it out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (tT6L1)
Yep, it's going to take time for most to be convinced it's real and not a bluff.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (ULPxl)
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You know why the narrative was that tariffs were inflationary?
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
I agree with this. The left simplified inflation to just higher prices and then argued that of course a tax on goods would lead to higher costs
Overal this argument seems to have gone the way of the egg price argument...
First there was not inflation/price spike, then it was Trump's fault, and now they just don't talk about it
Because the right had effectively used inflation as a bludgeon against Democrats last year, and inflation sounded scary.
I agree with this. The left simplified inflation to just higher prices and then argued that of course a tax on goods would lead to higher costs
Overal this argument seems to have gone the way of the egg price argument...
First there was not inflation/price spike, then it was Trump's fault, and now they just don't talk about it
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (t0Rmr)
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Don't tell the Dems. They'll scream "we can afford health care for illegals, sex "reassignment " surgery for minors, pay off student loans..."
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Yup.
And, related to below, I'm reminded of the early scene in Interstellar, the PTA conference, where they are berating him for allowing his daughter to read an older textbook. Instead of the corrected one.
Something like, we can't have people dreaming of the stars when those resources could be better used to help those here on Earth.
They kill our dreams, put us in cages to subsist on scraps and tell us we should be grateful they are taking care of us.
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Yup.
And, related to below, I'm reminded of the early scene in Interstellar, the PTA conference, where they are berating him for allowing his daughter to read an older textbook. Instead of the corrected one.
Something like, we can't have people dreaming of the stars when those resources could be better used to help those here on Earth.
They kill our dreams, put us in cages to subsist on scraps and tell us we should be grateful they are taking care of us.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (77rzZ)
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Right, and it makes sense at first pass. But as Dolly's husband notes: not every price increase is inflation or inflationary. And its much more complicated, because tariffs don't seem to be affecting most consumer goods, like gasoline, food, books, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)
Inflation is almost always caused by monetary policy, not fiscal policy.
No one is claiming that raising the corporate or personal income tax rates will cause massive inflation.
But printing a shit ton of money can.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)
Inflation is almost always caused by monetary policy, not fiscal policy.
No one is claiming that raising the corporate or personal income tax rates will cause massive inflation.
But printing a shit ton of money can.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (uCjyK)
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But every economist who screamed that tariffs are inflationary for the past 3 months will get paid more to teach economics than me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
If it makes you feel better, I shall pay them the same to teach economics as I pay you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
If it makes you feel better, I shall pay them the same to teach economics as I pay you.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (ExV1e)
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>>Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
>>Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
They've been right about the tariffs so far and the experts have been wrong. It's not like tariffs are a new idea, it was one of the very first things the 1st Congress voted to enact. It is how this country was financed for decades and we prospered.
It wasn't until the income tax came into being we got stupid and forgot that tariffs work. It's why pretty much every other country on the planet uses them against us and has for years.
>>Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
They've been right about the tariffs so far and the experts have been wrong. It's not like tariffs are a new idea, it was one of the very first things the 1st Congress voted to enact. It is how this country was financed for decades and we prospered.
It wasn't until the income tax came into being we got stupid and forgot that tariffs work. It's why pretty much every other country on the planet uses them against us and has for years.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:43 PM (viF8m)
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The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
The only time in recent memory I've heard the left say we shouldn't spend money because we couldn't afford it was Trump's wall in 2016.
So we can afford $8T/year, but not the additional $5B back when the budget was $4T....
The only time in recent memory I've heard the left say we shouldn't spend money because we couldn't afford it was Trump's wall in 2016.
So we can afford $8T/year, but not the additional $5B back when the budget was $4T....
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (dIske)
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The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (wVcYX)
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Are any countries trying to reach a trade agreement? I just see more and more tariffs being enacted. I'm willing to wait them out but I would like to see more success in getting them to the table.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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Yes, there are. Some aren't, though. They have made the calculation that paying higher tariffs is better than lowering their own tariffs and/or opening their markets to American goods (which is almost always Trump's requirement for negotiation).
Trump was 100% correct that the USA was getting prison-raped in the ass by the entire rest of the world. Even with higher tariffs, a good portion of the rest of the world is still getting over on us so well that they seen no need to negotiate.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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Yes, there are. Some aren't, though. They have made the calculation that paying higher tariffs is better than lowering their own tariffs and/or opening their markets to American goods (which is almost always Trump's requirement for negotiation).
Trump was 100% correct that the USA was getting prison-raped in the ass by the entire rest of the world. Even with higher tariffs, a good portion of the rest of the world is still getting over on us so well that they seen no need to negotiate.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
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17 Replacing unfunded spending with tariff revenue can only reduce the calculated GDP! Why does Trump want to crush the GDP numbers!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
Does anyone know approximately when the 2nd QTR CY 2025 GDP report will be released?
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
Does anyone know approximately when the 2nd QTR CY 2025 GDP report will be released?
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (aBgBM)
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>>> 74
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Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (uCjyK)
You'd think the commies would be on board with a huge corporate tax increase for H1Bs and "offshored" jobs.
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Why? I'd like to see more success in enacting tariffs.
Why would anyone want to continue to allow this massive off-shorting of jobs and importing of third world labor that is destroying the culture of this country from the inside out.
It only benefits a small group of wealthy and influential people and is killing off vast swarths of our country by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (uCjyK)
You'd think the commies would be on board with a huge corporate tax increase for H1Bs and "offshored" jobs.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl)
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April of 2024 and 2025 both held surpluses, as well as Sept of 2024. At least it is what Treasury shows...
https://tinyurl.com/mrjudtdy
https://tinyurl.com/mrjudtdy
Posted by: Coldwarvet at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (7t0kC)
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The main flaw with tariffs, from a politician's perspective, is that its difficult to translate into graft and it doesn't work as easily or effectively into manipulating behavior. So no matter how good it is, its not gonna be favored over other methods of revenue.
And frankly, those are the only reasons that politicians like taxes. They clearly don't believe you actually need government revenue to spend or we wouldn't be over 35 TRILLION in debt.
And frankly, those are the only reasons that politicians like taxes. They clearly don't believe you actually need government revenue to spend or we wouldn't be over 35 TRILLION in debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (dfIr7)
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We're as surprised as you.
Posted by: GOP at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (/U5Yz)
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>>I think regardless of how cooperative they are, every other country should be charged an import fee (tariff)
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (viF8m)
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Are leftists still screaming about Smoot Hawley? Because I know they've been using Smoot Hawley as a talking point lately but, with nothing which resembles context.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (tT6L1)
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unusual_whales @unusual_whales Jul 11
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to tariffs, per CNBC
unusual_whales @unusual_whales Jul 11 ['pro' report BTW]
June saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.
Read more: unusualwhales.com/news/us-ha…
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to...
The U.S. government logged a rare surplus in June, thanks in part to a jump in tariff revenues that gave federal coffers an unexpected boost, the Treasury Department said Friday. After running deep...
Rick Kennedy @RickKennedyTX17 Jul 12 Replying to @unusual_whales
“The Treasury also acknowledged that June’s numbers were flattered by timing quirks. Without those calendar adjustments, the month would have ended with a $70 billion deficit.”
https://tinyurl.com/yeyd48s9
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to tariffs, per CNBC
unusual_whales @unusual_whales Jul 11 ['pro' report BTW]
June saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.
Read more: unusualwhales.com/news/us-ha…
US had a budget surplus of $27.01 billion in June, compared to a deficit of $71 billion, due to...
The U.S. government logged a rare surplus in June, thanks in part to a jump in tariff revenues that gave federal coffers an unexpected boost, the Treasury Department said Friday. After running deep...
Rick Kennedy @RickKennedyTX17 Jul 12 Replying to @unusual_whales
“The Treasury also acknowledged that June’s numbers were flattered by timing quirks. Without those calendar adjustments, the month would have ended with a $70 billion deficit.”
https://tinyurl.com/yeyd48s9
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (2yoRf)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (vd6bO)
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Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (ExV1e)
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But printing a shit ton of money can.
Every dollar we give to an undocumented immigrant has a multiplier effect.
On my bank account. Oh sorry, I mean on the economy.
Every dollar we give to an undocumented immigrant has a multiplier effect.
On my bank account. Oh sorry, I mean on the economy.
Posted by: Some Dem Officeholder at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (t0Rmr)
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Economics is in the same department as all the "social" and "studies" degrees.
It's not a math.
It's not a science.
It's mostly a philosophy.
Paul "Enron Advisor" Krugman has a Nobel Prize in Economics.
It's not a math.
It's not a science.
It's mostly a philosophy.
Paul "Enron Advisor" Krugman has a Nobel Prize in Economics.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (7fElN)
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I think regardless of how cooperative they are, every other country should be charged an import fee (tariff)
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (viF8m)
______
"Yea, we told ya"
-- Ratt
They are. Every country starts at 10% and then there is negotiation to see what additional tariffs they will be paying.
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:45 PM (viF8m)
______
"Yea, we told ya"
-- Ratt
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (iFTx/)
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
Hopefully their non-cooperation will lead to more domestic production.
Hopefully their non-cooperation will lead to more domestic production.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (VofaG)
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93 Does anyone know approximately when the 2nd QTR CY 2025 GDP report will be released?
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (aBgBM)
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If you took out the imports from Q1's GDP, it would have been very solidly positive. There are accounting reasons (good ones) to treat imports as negative for the calculation of GDP, but that's where all of the -0.3% drop and a lot more came from.
With that spike of imports to avoid tariffs out of the way, the rest of the economy will be able to operate as normal.
Minimum will probably be about 3.5% GDP growth.
Can't forget the deregulatory efforts that are also going on.
I expect a positive number. Meaning no TrumpCession for at least 9 months. As a result I also expect My Betters will tell me the US is in a deep recession because yada, yada, yada, despite not meeting the technical standard definition of recession. The same Betters told me when we met the technical definition of recession during FJBs term, we were no in recession because yada, yada, yada, outweighed the GDP trend.
I do find some comfort in knowing exactly what lies My Betters will tell me. That is easy peasy.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (aBgBM)
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If you took out the imports from Q1's GDP, it would have been very solidly positive. There are accounting reasons (good ones) to treat imports as negative for the calculation of GDP, but that's where all of the -0.3% drop and a lot more came from.
With that spike of imports to avoid tariffs out of the way, the rest of the economy will be able to operate as normal.
Minimum will probably be about 3.5% GDP growth.
Can't forget the deregulatory efforts that are also going on.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
110
Trump was 100% correct that the USA was getting prison-raped in the ass by the entire rest of the world. Even with higher tariffs, a good portion of the rest of the world is still getting over on us so well that they seen no need to negotiate.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. These trade deals were never about economic policy, they were primarily about the foreign policy interests of the Deep State.
For example, we need to trade with China so that they see the error of their ways and become a freedom loving capitalist democracy like us.
In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. These trade deals were never about economic policy, they were primarily about the foreign policy interests of the Deep State.
For example, we need to trade with China so that they see the error of their ways and become a freedom loving capitalist democracy like us.
In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (uCjyK)
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'Unexpectedly'
Posted by: MSM at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (XeU6L)
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>>So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Doubtful. They aren't negotiating with me.
Doubtful. They aren't negotiating with me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (viF8m)
113
Basement dwelling international trade experts hardest hit.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (SQmE5)
114
I'm betting this a surprise to everyone but Trump.
Honestly I think it was. It certainly surprised me. I figured tariffs were just an effective way to leverage other nations into more fair trade practices, I did not foresee the revenue. Between that, heating up the US economy, spending cuts, and lowering the prime rate, we could actually reduce the debt.
Honestly I think it was. It certainly surprised me. I figured tariffs were just an effective way to leverage other nations into more fair trade practices, I did not foresee the revenue. Between that, heating up the US economy, spending cuts, and lowering the prime rate, we could actually reduce the debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (dfIr7)
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There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year.
Except that the US has money coming in every month. And money going out every month. And the reported surplus is for a single month without taking into account anything which happened before, or will happen hence.
Except that the US has money coming in every month. And money going out every month. And the reported surplus is for a single month without taking into account anything which happened before, or will happen hence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (ExV1e)
116
Epstein !
Posted by: MSM at July 14, 2025 02:48 PM (VE6XX)
117
Ass, grass or gas. Nobody rides for free.
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)
118
102 Might I humbly suggest that we take our tariff windfall and:
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (ExV1e)
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That's a little too on the nose.
1) Slash spending, and
2) Pay down the National Fucking Debt?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (wtvvX)
Or, follow me here.... we start a war in the ME. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:46 PM (ExV1e)
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That's a little too on the nose.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (PMtkd)
119
Trump just announced in the Oval with the head of NATO by his side that the EU will by buying weapons from us for Ukraine. Won't be costing us a penny.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)
Huh. Well, that's a nice change of pace.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)
Huh. Well, that's a nice change of pace.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (zLwRl)
120
Why is the first article under "Personal Finance"?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Comet Pizza Customers at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (rfMRc)
122
Ghislaine Maxwell is willing to tell all to Congress. Don't believe a damn word that come from her dirty mouth.
Posted by: GOP at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (/U5Yz)
123
Emoluments!
Posted by: The media we USED to watch at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (bcy1V)
124
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Well, if you are a wealthy CEO I'm sure we could arrange something...
Well, if you are a wealthy CEO I'm sure we could arrange something...
Posted by: Some Spherical Blue Haired Columbia bureaucrat at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (t0Rmr)
125
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)
The country is more likely to have nubile young women.
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Columbia the university or Colombia the country?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)
The country is more likely to have nubile young women.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (2ocoG)
126
Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:50 PM (u73oe)
127
So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
From what I've seen of Columbian actresses and models, they have a surplus.
From what I've seen of Columbian actresses and models, they have a surplus.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
128
Trilly is silly
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (63Dwl)
129
[recollects Barky making snide comment]
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
[recollects Barky making snide comment]
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
130
Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
"This is a bad idea that will ruin our country for reasons you have to take our word on!"
"This is a bad idea that will ruin our country for reasons you have to take our word on!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (dfIr7)
131
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Seems like they just took the 26 billion surplus and multiplied it out by 120.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (OGOaV)
Government projections. We have a datum and assume that things will continue without change forever.
Figners crossed and all, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 02:40 PM (OGOaV)
Government projections. We have a datum and assume that things will continue without change forever.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (ExV1e)
132
In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (W3T6M)
133
2 Almost like everything we've been told for the past 50 years has been wrong...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
Way more than 50, but yeah.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
Way more than 50, but yeah.
Posted by: A lifetime of gaslighting at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (TbWk/)
134
91 The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (wVcYX
Nah. They're just fuckin' stupid.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
Innumerate, even!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:44 PM (wVcYX
Nah. They're just fuckin' stupid.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 02:52 PM (g8Ew8)
135
Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
Busy counting the silver dimes in Ft. Knox?
Busy counting the silver dimes in Ft. Knox?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 02:52 PM (/U5Yz)
136
There is no way the US is not at a massive budget deficit by the end of the year.
I have no idea how feasible this is, but if we keep having budget surpluses every year, I guarantee you we're not at a deficit at the end of the year. DEBT still, but not deficit.
I have no idea how feasible this is, but if we keep having budget surpluses every year, I guarantee you we're not at a deficit at the end of the year. DEBT still, but not deficit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (dfIr7)
137
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (2ocoG)
138
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
139
Kevin Hassett is great. Wonkish, cheerful and tough. He's outmatched every shit-weasel reporter they've thrown at him, and always with a smile.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (WHfpM)
140
Lefty economics
1) I want a new iPhone
2) I don't have $2K
3) Therefore someone should buy me a new iPhone
1) I want a new iPhone
2) I don't have $2K
3) Therefore someone should buy me a new iPhone
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)
141
How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
142
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (bcy1V)
143
I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Apparently these same people think that all other nations hate their own middle classes, have terrible policies, have rampant inflation, trade wars and huge deficits.
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Apparently these same people think that all other nations hate their own middle classes, have terrible policies, have rampant inflation, trade wars and huge deficits.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (2ocoG)
146
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VofaG)
147
143 Apparently these same people think that all other nations hate their own middle classes, have terrible policies, have rampant inflation, trade wars and huge deficits.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
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The rest of the world waging a trade war on the largest economy in the world is easy to win when America doesn't fight back.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
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The rest of the world waging a trade war on the largest economy in the world is easy to win when America doesn't fight back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)
148
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
assessments on the member states.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
assessments on the member states.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)
149
[recollects Barky making snide comment]
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
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The wand is between the two huge rocks called balls.
But I understand how Obama might not know.
“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’. Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
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The wand is between the two huge rocks called balls.
But I understand how Obama might not know.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (PMtkd)
150
How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
151
Is the GOP pounding the table and promising to get to the bottom of this surplus issue, yet?
Posted by: Weasel at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (rAX2y)
152
As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
"Its for massaging tired muscles just like the hand held showerhead!!!"
--Single women
"Its for massaging tired muscles just like the hand held showerhead!!!"
--Single women
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (dfIr7)
153
I saw $3 Trilly pen for 50 Cent at D.C. Armory in '04.
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (b4A3z)
154
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Don't all the member states have to kick in a certain amount each year based on population or GDP?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Don't all the member states have to kick in a certain amount each year based on population or GDP?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (77rzZ)
155
Between that, heating up the US economy, spending cuts, and lowering the prime rate, we could actually reduce the debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
==
A large driver of the deficit is Fed Reserve holding interest rates too high given the normal risk premium over inflation rates. Joe Biden junta left a steaming pile of short term debt financing to be rolled over the next term.
Since long term interest rates have trended down, Powell has kept the US interest rates high (while cutting them a half a percentage during Kamala's run for the WH under much higher inflationary measures). Powell is easily responsible himself for adding perhaps 50-100 billion this year to the deficit.
Guy needs to go for policy reasons and it turns out he lied to Congress as well about the Fed Reserve HQ revamp. About 700 million over budget but with all kinds of amenities for staff and their higher ups that Powell denied such as a private elevator to executive dining for Powell and cronies. A garden on the roof for parties, etc. and so on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
==
A large driver of the deficit is Fed Reserve holding interest rates too high given the normal risk premium over inflation rates. Joe Biden junta left a steaming pile of short term debt financing to be rolled over the next term.
Since long term interest rates have trended down, Powell has kept the US interest rates high (while cutting them a half a percentage during Kamala's run for the WH under much higher inflationary measures). Powell is easily responsible himself for adding perhaps 50-100 billion this year to the deficit.
Guy needs to go for policy reasons and it turns out he lied to Congress as well about the Fed Reserve HQ revamp. About 700 million over budget but with all kinds of amenities for staff and their higher ups that Powell denied such as a private elevator to executive dining for Powell and cronies. A garden on the roof for parties, etc. and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (ctrM5)
156
Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VofaG)
That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
The increase to 5% each agreed to that Trump negotiated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VofaG)
That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
157
If they tariffs are so bad why are all of our fake allies against them?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (NaR/G)
158
143 I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (WHfpM)
159
132 In other words, we've been using the US economy (and the standard of living of US citizens) to nation build around the world, with the usual level of success we have with nation building.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (W3T6M)
Wasted big time taxpayer money on democracy building for people who did not want demoracy. Hell, even I don't want democracy, I've lived in one 76 years. I want a Constitutional Republic.
The people connected to the deep state get rich and powerful from this arrangement. The rest of us (including the US treasury), not so much.
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Yep. Our missionary pursuits will kill us.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:51 PM (W3T6M)
Wasted big time taxpayer money on democracy building for people who did not want demoracy. Hell, even I don't want democracy, I've lived in one 76 years. I want a Constitutional Republic.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (QB+5g)
161
The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Wait, that's TJM, never mind at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (TbWk/)
162
Kevin Hassett is great. Wonkish, cheerful and tough. He's outmatched every shit-weasel reporter they've thrown at him, and always with a smile.
Yeah one of the more frustrating things in the past here was some people claiming "Trump had to use all those past GOPe rejects [in his first term], there isn't anyone else qualified!" I knew that was false, but without anyone to point to, all I could do was frown.
Yeah one of the more frustrating things in the past here was some people claiming "Trump had to use all those past GOPe rejects [in his first term], there isn't anyone else qualified!" I knew that was false, but without anyone to point to, all I could do was frown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (dfIr7)
163
160
It's a TAX!!!!!
REEEEEE!!!!!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (QB+5g)
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It's more like a fee, really.
It's a TAX!!!!!
REEEEEE!!!!!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (QB+5g)
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It's more like a fee, really.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
164
161 The left does not earn money nor work a budget. They are financially illiterate.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Wait, that's TJM, never mind at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (TbWk/)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (LHPAg)
And assholes!
Posted by: Wait, that's TJM, never mind at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (TbWk/)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
165
151 Is the GOP pounding the table and promising to get to the bottom of this surplus issue, yet?
Posted by: Weasel
We're busy right now investigatin' on all of these special committees. We'll get back to you. - Jimmy Comer
Posted by: Weasel
We're busy right now investigatin' on all of these special committees. We'll get back to you. - Jimmy Comer
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (/U5Yz)
166
I knew that was false, but without anyone to point to, all I could do was frown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (dfIr7)
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Turn that frown upside down!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:57 PM (dfIr7)
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Turn that frown upside down!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (u73oe)
167
Never fear. Congress will spend it faster than your wife spends your paycheck.
Posted by: Dave's not here, man at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (raPis)
168
Would any professional economist ever predict Trump policies would be successful?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (kTd/k)
169
The federal government ran at a surplus in June, according to the Treasury Department, meaning money coming in surpassed money going out.
.......
Blasphemy.
.......
Blasphemy.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (UjdFS)
170
That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
171
158 143 I thought tariffs were a huge tax on the american middle class, were horrible economic policy, cause rampant inflation and invariably led to trade wars and never raised any money?
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (WHfpM)
Facts don't matter. Results don't matter. Only dogmatic propaganda matters.
Was I misled on that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (uCjyK)
Another spectacular lie they have no intention of retracting or apologizing for, as they ready the next spectacular lie.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (WHfpM)
Facts don't matter. Results don't matter. Only dogmatic propaganda matters.
Posted by: For the Left and NeverTrump, which aren't much different now at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (TbWk/)
172
That's with the usurous interest rates.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (NaR/G)
173
How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
You need to read something besides what the losers wrote to make themselves look good. Sure, they might loose a lot breaking through the front at the start of the offensive, but after that they are chasing the Germans back for a hundred miles and capturing all kinds of men in the 'fortress cities' and other pockets.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
You need to read something besides what the losers wrote to make themselves look good. Sure, they might loose a lot breaking through the front at the start of the offensive, but after that they are chasing the Germans back for a hundred miles and capturing all kinds of men in the 'fortress cities' and other pockets.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (8avO+)
174
When you see that money is flowing to men who deal not in goods but in favors; when you see that men get rich not by work but by graft and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them from you, you know your society is doomed.
Paraphrased Ayn Rand was really prescient.
Paraphrased Ayn Rand was really prescient.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (gpah0)
175
Would any professional economist ever predict Trump policies would be successful?
Posted by: Still lurking up north
Kudlow?
Posted by: Still lurking up north
Kudlow?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:00 PM (77rzZ)
176
Why aren't German boys defending the Fulda Gap?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:00 PM (NaR/G)
177
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:59 PM (8avO+)
So the Soviet’s count of dead are exaggerated?
So the Soviet’s count of dead are exaggerated?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:00 PM (VofaG)
178
Recently I read about the '44/'45 offensives by the Soviets at the end of WWII in some detail.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1
Cornelius Ryan touched on that in his book recounting the last days of the 3R. General Heinrici was the German general charged with defending the Eastern Front and his tactics caused the high casualties of the Reds. For example, all Russian offensive began with artillery barrages--so Heinrici abandoned the front lines and then met the Russians head on when they tried to advance. Result massive Red Army casualties.
FWIW, he was one of the last German generals to be dismissed by Mustache Man and he was told to basically get the hell out of Dodge to avoid being purged by the Chief Mad Bugger himself or his remaining henchmen.
And they have constant "victories" where they would lose 10X as many men but the Germans retreated.
It is a testament to how little the Soviets cared about their own soldiers even after they'd turned the corner in '43
Posted by: 18-1
Cornelius Ryan touched on that in his book recounting the last days of the 3R. General Heinrici was the German general charged with defending the Eastern Front and his tactics caused the high casualties of the Reds. For example, all Russian offensive began with artillery barrages--so Heinrici abandoned the front lines and then met the Russians head on when they tried to advance. Result massive Red Army casualties.
FWIW, he was one of the last German generals to be dismissed by Mustache Man and he was told to basically get the hell out of Dodge to avoid being purged by the Chief Mad Bugger himself or his remaining henchmen.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (ctrM5)
179
Yes, tariffs are taxes. The best kind of taxes. Taxes on production that's been outsourced to countries with cheap labor and zero environmental standards.
We don't live in an Adam Smith world where Britain buys cotton from Georgia because they can't grow it. We live in a world where Boeing outsources critical flight software to the cheapest Indian programmer to save a few bucks.
We don't live in an Adam Smith world where Britain buys cotton from Georgia because they can't grow it. We live in a world where Boeing outsources critical flight software to the cheapest Indian programmer to save a few bucks.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (Z9km2)
180
Guy needs to go for policy reasons and it turns out he lied to Congress as well about the Fed Reserve HQ revamp. About 700 million over budget but with all kinds of amenities for staff and their higher ups that Powell denied such as a private elevator to executive dining for Powell and cronies. A garden on the roof for parties, etc. and so on.
Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
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That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
There really isn't weapons there to send to Ukraine. The state of their militaries is a shocker, and ours might not be much better aside from front line strength.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
There really isn't weapons there to send to Ukraine. The state of their militaries is a shocker, and ours might not be much better aside from front line strength.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (8avO+)
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176 Why aren't German boys defending the Fulda Gap?
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Not really an issue anymore than the Brenner Pass is.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Not really an issue anymore than the Brenner Pass is.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (ctrM5)
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Americans who aren't used to seeing the words "festive" and "little hats" in the same sentence are in for a surprise.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 03:02 PM (HTa/G)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:02 PM (/U5Yz)
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As the world's most obvious closeted gay, Obama would of course be interested in "magic wands".
Your words are hurtful and untrue.
Your words are hurtful and untrue.
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (rfMRc)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Self-serving at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (TbWk/)
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Speaking of Gen Z... the voice of a generation?
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
"Why do we delegate one of congresses primary and enumerated functions (setting monetary policy) to an unaccountable group of wall street bankers who live like kings and can tell any elected official in the US to go fuck themselves despite us living in a so-called representative republic?" might be the better question.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
"Why do we delegate one of congresses primary and enumerated functions (setting monetary policy) to an unaccountable group of wall street bankers who live like kings and can tell any elected official in the US to go fuck themselves despite us living in a so-called representative republic?" might be the better question.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
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Afternoon, folken,
I'm glad and more than glad to hear this. My president knows what he's doing -- in more areas, at least, than his predecessors in this century, and probably in my lifetime.
I'm glad and more than glad to hear this. My president knows what he's doing -- in more areas, at least, than his predecessors in this century, and probably in my lifetime.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:05 PM (omVj0)
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76 Why aren't German boys defending the Fulda Gap?
Posted by: Boss Moss For the same reason they go 40 kmh on the Autobahn. They are sissy boys.
Posted by: Boss Moss For the same reason they go 40 kmh on the Autobahn. They are sissy boys.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:05 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (Z9km2)
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187 Speaking of Gen Z... the voice of a generation?
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, fake, and a stupid question with a stupid answer. The only correct answer to that stupid questions is "neither."
https://tinyurl.com/evy9wtks
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, fake, and a stupid question with a stupid answer. The only correct answer to that stupid questions is "neither."
Posted by: Both Indians and Mexicans have true rape culture BTW at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (TbWk/)
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That's money going to armaments and soldiers for NATO. As if they will do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
Its been a while since I read my Glantz, but Russian overall losses was not 10-1, Russian force ratios weren't 10-1 even in 45. And despite being starved for infantry in 45, they managed to advance steadily all the way to Berlin.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:56 PM (8avO+)
I think they are purchasing these weapons from that fund and just transferring them to Ukraine.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
Its been a while since I read my Glantz, but Russian overall losses was not 10-1, Russian force ratios weren't 10-1 even in 45. And despite being starved for infantry in 45, they managed to advance steadily all the way to Berlin.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (8avO+)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uCjyK)
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"Why do we delegate one of congresses primary and enumerated functions (setting monetary policy) to an unaccountable group of wall street bankers who live like kings and can tell any elected official in the US to go fuck themselves despite us living in a so-called representative republic?" might be the better question./i]
I understand the principle behind it: that way they are not subject to the whims of any one president or party. But the truth is, they are subject to one party's whims and unaccountable to the American people which is even worse.
I understand the principle behind it: that way they are not subject to the whims of any one president or party. But the truth is, they are subject to one party's whims and unaccountable to the American people which is even worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (dfIr7)
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Nice
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (xcxpd)
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I think the tarriffs are going up in August as the Nancy boys of yourope pretend to be tough.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (NaR/G)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Same thing as the Institute of Peace. Basically Powell has been running the Fed at a massive loss of hundreds of billions while supporting the Biden junta's idiotic economic policies. Powell never said a discouraging word to such idiocy as the Nude Green Eeel or other money drops on illegals, etc.
Independent agencies were theorized to bring technocratic skills and insulation from the awful populists way back when. Turns out, they are just as political, stupid, and shortsighted as politicians are because of agency capture. Party (the Dems) became the unifying glue of the whole Borg of bureaucracy and even the Democrat party. This allowed the bureaucracy to play the opposition party blocking rollbacks when the Courts, Congress, or the Presidency were GOP controlled.
Trump is finally doing something about it. We will see how successful he will be at it but his hits on the Bureaucracy are unprecedented historically
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Same thing as the Institute of Peace. Basically Powell has been running the Fed at a massive loss of hundreds of billions while supporting the Biden junta's idiotic economic policies. Powell never said a discouraging word to such idiocy as the Nude Green Eeel or other money drops on illegals, etc.
Independent agencies were theorized to bring technocratic skills and insulation from the awful populists way back when. Turns out, they are just as political, stupid, and shortsighted as politicians are because of agency capture. Party (the Dems) became the unifying glue of the whole Borg of bureaucracy and even the Democrat party. This allowed the bureaucracy to play the opposition party blocking rollbacks when the Courts, Congress, or the Presidency were GOP controlled.
Trump is finally doing something about it. We will see how successful he will be at it but his hits on the Bureaucracy are unprecedented historically
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:07 PM (ctrM5)
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By the way, I asked Miss Linda to update all of you on my surgery adventure this morning. No problems, except that I am stiff and sore; not sure the Tramadol + ibuprofen is working enough. I'm sitting with an ice pack in place.
Not sleepy at all despite having only five hours last night. Maybe it will hit me tonight about nine and I'll be off to bed for nine hours. Wouldn't that be nice.
Not sleepy at all despite having only five hours last night. Maybe it will hit me tonight about nine and I'll be off to bed for nine hours. Wouldn't that be nice.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:07 PM (omVj0)
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How many millions will die, thanks to our surplus?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
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I mean, given how many people died after Net Neutrality and Covid, how many of us are left, really?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)
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I mean, given how many people died after Net Neutrality and Covid, how many of us are left, really?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 14, 2025 03:07 PM (OGOaV)
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Just got out of a meeting, and thought I should share a thought about the previous Thread.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Since late January it is amazing to see what President Trump, DOGE, and others have done to help our country dig out of the black hole (of Biden's brain).
Yet the people scream, "Epstein." Which will someday be solved. Let's first deport every single illegal who's added to the black hole of money debt by fraud. If you pay taxes you are paying for them. Glad they cut USAID, too.
I want them all gone. I don't really care, Margaret, if they chew on their arms on airplanes nor suffer with "elephant sized mosquitos" at Alligator Alcatraz.
I wish someone would suggest pay for view for Alligator Alcatraz, with $ going to the national debt or paying for their transport planes. I would gladly watch this show and laugh at the weenies. Sign the deportation forms, barbarians! Adios! *Farsi good bye*
Yet the people scream, "Epstein." Which will someday be solved. Let's first deport every single illegal who's added to the black hole of money debt by fraud. If you pay taxes you are paying for them. Glad they cut USAID, too.
I want them all gone. I don't really care, Margaret, if they chew on their arms on airplanes nor suffer with "elephant sized mosquitos" at Alligator Alcatraz.
I wish someone would suggest pay for view for Alligator Alcatraz, with $ going to the national debt or paying for their transport planes. I would gladly watch this show and laugh at the weenies. Sign the deportation forms, barbarians! Adios! *Farsi good bye*
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (6PCLE)
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201 Just got out of a meeting, and thought I should share a thought about the previous Thread.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Proper word would be alumna.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)
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This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (NLtte)
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Yeah these guys all act like kings in their departments and turn it into a party zone. What, exactly, does he do other than set that rate? Why is he paid so much and why does he have so many employees? Why is the budget so high?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Self-serving at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (TbWk/)
You don't get more money by saving on your allotted budget. You get less. You don't get more power either. If they transferred other departments to you for being under budget, that might help.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)
Pournelle was dead on with his Iron Law of Bureaucracy.
Posted by: Self-serving at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (TbWk/)
You don't get more money by saving on your allotted budget. You get less. You don't get more power either. If they transferred other departments to you for being under budget, that might help.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)
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The latest "worry" promulgated by the media is that coffee prices will rise because of tariffs on Brazil. The stuff is already overpriced, and I've resorted to using Cafe Morro espresso blend from Aldi and using one less teaspoon of grounds per pot. Is this likely to be a worry at the grocery store?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (omVj0)
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I understand the principle behind it: that way they are not subject to the whims of any one president or party. But the truth is, they are subject to one party's whims and unaccountable to the American people which is even worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (dfIr7)
I'm aware of the argument, it just makes about as much as sense as the argument for a permanent bureaucracy in DC.
We have to ignore everything we know about people, the entire purpose of our constitutional checks and balances, and common sense to assume that the people in those jobs are all truly non-political with unquestionable morals who are experts who just want to do what is right for the country.
Obviously that's not how the world works.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (dfIr7)
I'm aware of the argument, it just makes about as much as sense as the argument for a permanent bureaucracy in DC.
We have to ignore everything we know about people, the entire purpose of our constitutional checks and balances, and common sense to assume that the people in those jobs are all truly non-political with unquestionable morals who are experts who just want to do what is right for the country.
Obviously that's not how the world works.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (uCjyK)
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I have personal experience that some suppliers are trying to pass "tariff expense" onto buyers, but there are these pesky things called contracts that prevent that. I've had to slap three vendors down on that in the last few weeks.
It's possible that some prices will actually go up when firm price contracts expire. Of if enough buyers are stupid enough not to read their contracts.
It's possible that some prices will actually go up when firm price contracts expire. Of if enough buyers are stupid enough not to read their contracts.
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (sFNX2)
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The numbers I learned is that Germany lost about 1.2 million on the Eastern front and the Soviets lost 11 million.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
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Just got out of a meeting, and thought I should share a thought about the previous Thread.
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
Aren't you out of work and begging people for money online?
Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025 03:08 PM (0sNs1)
Aren't you out of work and begging people for money online?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (8avO+)
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Fake, but probably 99% accurate from Z's perspective. Decades of pro-Mexican propaganda and Corona and Dos Equis commercials have brainwashed the younger generations into thinking Mexicans are cuddly little hispanic teddy bears who just like to chill. Pay no attention to the rapists, murderers, sex traffickers, cartels, and backwards, 17th-century views on sexual relationships.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uCjyK)
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I think the sex traffickers and ladies with babies selling candy are joined at some point in a Venn. I think probably half those babies are someone else's and used solely as props. Indeed, the whole operation is probably run by organized crime as a fencing operation. I don't believe every 6 train has exactly one -- only one! -- lady with a baby selling the exact same candy.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)
Eh, I thought it was funny. But I also very much like the Mexicans and our Central American amigos who I've worked with / interacted with.
Unfortunately, time for them to go home. The sex traffickers AND the ladies with the babies on their backs selling candy on the 6 train.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uCjyK)
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I think the sex traffickers and ladies with babies selling candy are joined at some point in a Venn. I think probably half those babies are someone else's and used solely as props. Indeed, the whole operation is probably run by organized crime as a fencing operation. I don't believe every 6 train has exactly one -- only one! -- lady with a baby selling the exact same candy.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
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Have seen Fulda's gap lately? She's really let herself go. No self-respecting dude wants to be anywhere near that thing.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)
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Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (omVj0)
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Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg
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The pillow company remains a monument to your insight and understanding of the realities of business and manufacturing.
Posted by: David Hogg
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The pillow company remains a monument to your insight and understanding of the realities of business and manufacturing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (XeU6L)
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Who lost more men in WWII on the Axis side -- Krauts or Japs?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
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Who lost more men in WWII on the Axis side -- Krauts or Japs?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VofaG)
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The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (omVj0)
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That acquaintance read that somewhere. It's classic persuasion and sloganeering.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)
He probably read it in the Financial Times (which Trump reads, BTW). He reads the FT for his job and was enthusiastically promoting it to us. I suppose he left a section on the table headlined with how Trump's tariffs were going to ruin everything for our benefit so we could see how wrong we were.
The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine. But then, they also haven't noticed that their jabbed relatives repeatedly get Covid infections and can't stay out of the hospital while we vaccine-deniers were one and done.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)
He probably read it in the Financial Times (which Trump reads, BTW). He reads the FT for his job and was enthusiastically promoting it to us. I suppose he left a section on the table headlined with how Trump's tariffs were going to ruin everything for our benefit so we could see how wrong we were.
The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine. But then, they also haven't noticed that their jabbed relatives repeatedly get Covid infections and can't stay out of the hospital while we vaccine-deniers were one and done.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (rF2iL)
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213 Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (omVj0)
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*flexes Latin knowledge*
*is two words*
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
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Well done, TJM!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (omVj0)
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*flexes Latin knowledge*
*is two words*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (GBKbO)
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I think the sex traffickers and ladies with babies selling candy are joined at some point in a Venn. I think probably half those babies are someone else's and used solely as props. Indeed, the whole operation is probably run by organized crime as a fencing operation. I don't believe every 6 train has exactly one -- only one! -- lady with a baby selling the exact same candy.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, I would imagine it's all an organized scam and the babies are not theirs. I don't know how they all have the exact same aged children bundled on their backs, and as you say, have the exact same collection of "chocolat, sucar" and say the exact same things and act the exact same way.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
Yes, I would imagine it's all an organized scam and the babies are not theirs. I don't know how they all have the exact same aged children bundled on their backs, and as you say, have the exact same collection of "chocolat, sucar" and say the exact same things and act the exact same way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (uCjyK)
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You don't get more money by saving on your allotted budget. You get less. You don't get more power either. If they transferred other departments to you for being under budget, that might help.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)
This is how every agency operated. It's why fire and police insist on sending 3-4 manned vehicles apiece to every minor fenderbender, or five patrol cars to a call about a guy taking pictures of a townhouse community for a real estate agent to post a listing. Then when they go to the city/county/state with their budgets they can say just how expensive it is keeping the community SEEEEFFFFFF, and they just have to have more money. Otherwise there will be blood flowing in the streets and unfettered commercial photography.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)
This is how every agency operated. It's why fire and police insist on sending 3-4 manned vehicles apiece to every minor fenderbender, or five patrol cars to a call about a guy taking pictures of a townhouse community for a real estate agent to post a listing. Then when they go to the city/county/state with their budgets they can say just how expensive it is keeping the community SEEEEFFFFFF, and they just have to have more money. Otherwise there will be blood flowing in the streets and unfettered commercial photography.
Posted by: Same old same old at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (TbWk/)
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218 The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine. But then, they also haven't noticed that their jabbed relatives repeatedly get Covid infections and can't stay out of the hospital while we vaccine-deniers were one and done.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (rF2iL)
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"Trump canceled my Social Security check!"
-Lib Boomer who has not missed a single social security direct deposit
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (rF2iL)
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"Trump canceled my Social Security check!"
-Lib Boomer who has not missed a single social security direct deposit
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (GBKbO)
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Anyone heard from Rand Paul and Thomas Massie on this?
Posted by: Duke Lowell
How about Justin Amash? Oh, right...
Posted by: Duke Lowell
How about Justin Amash? Oh, right...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (mlg/3)
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I’m just here to call dibs on your stuff.
Posted by: Dagny the all of Siberian cat at July 14, 2025 03:14 PM (u73oe)
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So TJM is only illiterate in English?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
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The cartels in Mexico are vicious. But read anything about the Mexican Civil War 1910-20 and you shouldn't be surprised
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (Ry3Y5)
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206 The latest "worry" promulgated by the media is that coffee prices will rise because of tariffs on Brazil. The stuff is already overpriced, and I've resorted to using Cafe Morro espresso blend from Aldi and using one less teaspoon of grounds per pot. Is this likely to be a worry at the grocery store?
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One of the biggest reason we joined Costco, besides gas prices, was the savings on Coffee.
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One of the biggest reason we joined Costco, besides gas prices, was the savings on Coffee.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (W3T6M)
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“Mr. Biden himself has hired a new personal lawyer, Amy Jeffress of Hecker Fink.”
Jeffress is married to DC District Court Judge Chris Cooper. He is presiding over a few lawsuits against the president.
Jeffress is married to DC District Court Judge Chris Cooper. He is presiding over a few lawsuits against the president.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (/U5Yz)
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>>> 217 The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (omVj0)
Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (omVj0)
Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (ULPxl)
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225 So TJM is only illiterate in English?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
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I would show off my literacy of Quenya, but my keyboard isn't right.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
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I would show off my literacy of Quenya, but my keyboard isn't right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
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The revenue comes from you and me.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (4raCh)
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231 The revenue comes from you and me.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (4raCh)
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You're a foreign exporter shipping to the US who can't increase prices on the exports because of existing contracts?
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (4raCh)
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You're a foreign exporter shipping to the US who can't increase prices on the exports because of existing contracts?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Obviously that's not how the world works.
Yeah I assumed you knew the argument already. The flaw we have is that nearly every new thing added to government that is over and above the constitutionally-permitted limits of it deliberately avoids the checks and balances because people in power hate that.
The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Yeah I assumed you knew the argument already. The flaw we have is that nearly every new thing added to government that is over and above the constitutionally-permitted limits of it deliberately avoids the checks and balances because people in power hate that.
The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
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A surplus from a new tax though is not the victory I’m looking for. I’m all for a surplus from deep spending cuts.
Liberals try and make the same case that consumers don’t pay the tax when they jack up corporate taxes, energy taxes, windfall taxes, etc.
Liberals try and make the same case that consumers don’t pay the tax when they jack up corporate taxes, energy taxes, windfall taxes, etc.
Posted by: Maroon at July 14, 2025 03:18 PM (g0oCT)
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213 Despite what Mr. O'Spades says, I'm an alumnus of an (perhaps the) elite University, and I've done all right so far.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
Alu-min-i-um.
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at July 14, 2025
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Proper word would be alumna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025
Alu-min-i-um.
Posted by: UK Karen at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (wVcYX)
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"The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?"
Didn't you just have an operation?
Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (QB+5g)
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Is this about me?
Posted by: Fulda at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (bcy1V)
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Absenteeism at CA farms said to be around 70% due to ongoing immigration raids.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
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The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (uCjyK)
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WOW - if relevant:
John Kiriakou
@JohnKiriakou
4h
John Brennan was responsible for the approval of visas to many 9/11 hijackers. As the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, he was linked to several uninvestigated, questionable incidents.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
John Kiriakou
@JohnKiriakou
4h
John Brennan was responsible for the approval of visas to many 9/11 hijackers. As the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, he was linked to several uninvestigated, questionable incidents.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (3447G)
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Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (B3wyN)
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A surplus from a new tax though is not the victory I’m looking for. I’m all for a surplus from deep spending cuts.
Trump for all his positives does not seem all that interested in cuts. He's trying to balance the budget through leaner, more efficient government, a scorching hot economy, and tariff revenues. And it can work but cuts have a double benefit of reducing government power to constitutional limits, and reducing debt.
Trump for all his positives does not seem all that interested in cuts. He's trying to balance the budget through leaner, more efficient government, a scorching hot economy, and tariff revenues. And it can work but cuts have a double benefit of reducing government power to constitutional limits, and reducing debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (dfIr7)
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The couple are both academics and are convinced their students won't be able to find jobs in the next few years. They have personally tightly restricted their budget because Trump's cuts are going to decimate their paychecks. So far they have not noticed that their paychecks are fine and their students are fine.
Posted by: Emmie
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They are smart enough to cut their spending but it will not be because of Trump. It will be because US academia is collapsing in value added for Americans. Due to lack of demand, a lot of private colleges and even state schools in places like Illinois, etc. have enrollments that are spiraling downward.
Posted by: Emmie
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They are smart enough to cut their spending but it will not be because of Trump. It will be because US academia is collapsing in value added for Americans. Due to lack of demand, a lot of private colleges and even state schools in places like Illinois, etc. have enrollments that are spiraling downward.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (ctrM5)
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I approve of Ade's referring the the previous executive as "President" Biden.
We should awlays those quotation marks.
Remember when Barry Bonds broke all the Home Run records and then he was later suspected of taking steroids, and fans of opposing teams would hold up a sign with a giant asterisk, implying that Bonds's record weren't legitimate, and that he should have an asterisk next to his name in the recoird books?
We'll, we should do the same with Biden.
He wasn't really president.
We should awlays those quotation marks.
Remember when Barry Bonds broke all the Home Run records and then he was later suspected of taking steroids, and fans of opposing teams would hold up a sign with a giant asterisk, implying that Bonds's record weren't legitimate, and that he should have an asterisk next to his name in the recoird books?
We'll, we should do the same with Biden.
He wasn't really president.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)
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The numbers I learned is that Germany lost about 1.2 million on the Eastern front and the Soviets lost 11 million.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
the West German military historian Burkhart Müller-Hillebrand (de) published the third volume of his study of the German Army in World War II Das Heer 1933–1945 that listed OKW casualty figures and his estimate of total German casualties. Müller-Hillebrand maintained that the OKW figures did not present an accurate accounting of German casualties because they understated losses in the final months of the war on the eastern front and post war deaths of POW in Soviet captivity. According to Müller-Hillebrand actual irrecoverable losses in the war were between 3.3 and 4.5 million men. Overall Müller-Hillebrand estimated the total dead and missing at 4.0 million men.[23]
You also have to remember is that Germany took many prisoners in the early war and routinely starved them to death. These would swell the 'dead' number for the Soviets in the early war.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
the West German military historian Burkhart Müller-Hillebrand (de) published the third volume of his study of the German Army in World War II Das Heer 1933–1945 that listed OKW casualty figures and his estimate of total German casualties. Müller-Hillebrand maintained that the OKW figures did not present an accurate accounting of German casualties because they understated losses in the final months of the war on the eastern front and post war deaths of POW in Soviet captivity. According to Müller-Hillebrand actual irrecoverable losses in the war were between 3.3 and 4.5 million men. Overall Müller-Hillebrand estimated the total dead and missing at 4.0 million men.[23]
You also have to remember is that Germany took many prisoners in the early war and routinely starved them to death. These would swell the 'dead' number for the Soviets in the early war.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (8avO+)
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Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
I guess they are going to have to spring for mor automation. Also what happened to migrant farm worker temporary visas?
I guess they are going to have to spring for mor automation. Also what happened to migrant farm worker temporary visas?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (VofaG)
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The cartels in Mexico are vicious. But read anything about the Mexican Civil War 1910-20 and you shouldn't be surprised
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025
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One of my Spanish teachers in high school mentioned that Mexico had the first Marxist revolution in history, even before the USSR. See the Pancho Villa raid on Columbus, New Mexico, in 1916, handled by "Black Jack" Pershing.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025
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One of my Spanish teachers in high school mentioned that Mexico had the first Marxist revolution in history, even before the USSR. See the Pancho Villa raid on Columbus, New Mexico, in 1916, handled by "Black Jack" Pershing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (wVcYX)
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John Brennan was responsible for the approval of visas to many 9/11 hijackers. As the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, he was linked to several uninvestigated, questionable incidents.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (3447G)
not surprising.
But also,
"that was like 20 years ago, so move on and talk about autopens" - everyone when you talk about Epstein or anything related to the intel agencies.
I discuss this and more with @MelKShow
https://tinyurl.com/5ensb35c
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (3447G)
not surprising.
But also,
"that was like 20 years ago, so move on and talk about autopens" - everyone when you talk about Epstein or anything related to the intel agencies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (uCjyK)
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241 Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
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Let her smell your feet. That's the next move in the courtship.
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Let her smell your feet. That's the next move in the courtship.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (W3T6M)
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244 We'll, we should do the same with Biden.
He wasn't really president.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)
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Biden's Treasury Secretary said that no Treasury Secretary has had direct access to the payment systems of the US since 1948.
No president has had access to the government's payment systems through his political appointees since Eisenhower.
Can we say any president since has been president?
He wasn't really president.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)
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Biden's Treasury Secretary said that no Treasury Secretary has had direct access to the payment systems of the US since 1948.
No president has had access to the government's payment systems through his political appointees since Eisenhower.
Can we say any president since has been president?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (GBKbO)
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204 This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (NLtte)
I love this! Like Lucy holding Charlie Brown's football, last minute: "You are not going!
I looked at the speakers. Sounds like a bunch of globalist (I typed originally globulists and that fits, too) bullsharte global gobbledgook. Gobbledy goop ala Gweneth? Peace through rigmarole and diagrams. Oh, just shut up!
I love you, Pete Hegseth!
Posted by: beckster at July 14, 2025 03:09 PM (NLtte)
I love this! Like Lucy holding Charlie Brown's football, last minute: "You are not going!
I looked at the speakers. Sounds like a bunch of globalist (I typed originally globulists and that fits, too) bullsharte global gobbledgook. Gobbledy goop ala Gweneth? Peace through rigmarole and diagrams. Oh, just shut up!
I love you, Pete Hegseth!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 03:22 PM (6PCLE)
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Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025
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Maybe in a few years, say five or six, your visitor and my Dagny will deign to acknowledge us.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025
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Maybe in a few years, say five or six, your visitor and my Dagny will deign to acknowledge us.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:23 PM (omVj0)
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Absenteeism at CA farms said to be around 70% due to ongoing immigration raids.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (lIio7)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
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As another thought, while "DEFUND THE POLICE" is retarded because of the motivation and the goals, taking a hard look at their budgets, staffing, and quantitative and qualitative aspects of utilization would be a very wise thing to do. Dogpatch doesn't need a Bearcat or a goddamn MRAP. Not every emergency call requires a dozen firefighter-paramedics, or a half-dozen squad cars. There's a fuckload of waste, abuse and bloat that could be eliminated without diminishing efficacy. But few people want to talk about that because the Thin Blue Line crowd is just as knee-jerk and dogmatic as BLM.
Posted by: Accountability isn't anti-law-and-order at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (TbWk/)
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she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (RErwz)
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See.................. President Biden's policies are working !!!!!
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (aKoaI)
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"The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?"
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
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257 See.................. President Biden's policies are working !!!!!
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (aKoaI)
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Biden's last speech as president said that any growth in the economy under Trump would be because of Biden's policies.
it just took Trump to implement them to make it work !!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (aKoaI)
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Biden's last speech as president said that any growth in the economy under Trump would be because of Biden's policies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Absenteeism at CA farms said to be around 70% due to ongoing immigration raids.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme
Also more than enough to buy equipment, depreciate the equipment, write it off & buy more.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
http://tiny.cc/9ddp001
70% of California's entire agricultural labor force is illegal. I knew it had to be high, but that's insane. No wonder both parties are nuts for illegals. CA alone does about $60 billion a year in cash receipts for farm output. That's more than enough to buy a plurality of Senators.
Posted by: bonhomme
Also more than enough to buy equipment, depreciate the equipment, write it off & buy more.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (+bLMA)
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The "spoils" system of appointing people for example was flawed in that it would enrich cronies and yes-men, but it was checked and balanced by the term limits of presidents and the elections. Voters didn't care for how he did things? He's out on his ear and we get a new bunch of cronies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (uCjyK)
It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:17 PM (dfIr7)
Right. It also had the added benefit of giving you one throat to choke.
"This government official sucks, and I'm holding you, Mr. President, personally responsible."
Now it's "well, shit, the executive branch does whatever they want, and it's damned near impossible to fire anyone, so how can you blame your elected officials for how they act? We'll see if we can update the processes."
Easy way to shift the blame from a person to an intractable "process"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:19 PM (uCjyK)
It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (8avO+)
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she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Your aura has changed shape and color.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Your aura has changed shape and color.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (wVcYX)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
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she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: 2009Refugee
*snort
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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You have been rated 'edible, if no battle is required'
Posted by: 2009Refugee
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (+bLMA)
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Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
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260 Also more than enough to buy equipment, depreciate the equipment, write it off & buy more.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (+bLMA)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Gotta be cheaper than weekly cash paydays.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:25 PM (+bLMA)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump for all his positives does not seem all that interested in cuts. He's trying to balance the budget through leaner, more efficient government, a scorching hot economy, and tariff revenues. And it can work but cuts have a double benefit of reducing government power to constitutional limits, and reducing debt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Trump is pragmatic in that he sees no upside to pushing cuts that Congress will not approve. A puny rescission bill (about 9.1 billion) is currently in front of the Senate (after passing the House) but it gores some sacred cows for some senators like PBS, NPR, and other useless shit.
Trump called Ryan's bluff in the first term by giving Congress a budget proposal that had massive cuts in government. Ryan instead pivoted to bleating about cutting Social Security which is their go to move to forestall budget cuts (see earlier thread).
The major drivers of the structural deficit are Social Security (there will need to be another move to up the retirement age to 65 and 70 which would stabilize it), Medicare and Medicaid. Medicaid got some modest pruning in the BBB reconciliation bill. Medicare is untouched so far.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Trump is pragmatic in that he sees no upside to pushing cuts that Congress will not approve. A puny rescission bill (about 9.1 billion) is currently in front of the Senate (after passing the House) but it gores some sacred cows for some senators like PBS, NPR, and other useless shit.
Trump called Ryan's bluff in the first term by giving Congress a budget proposal that had massive cuts in government. Ryan instead pivoted to bleating about cutting Social Security which is their go to move to forestall budget cuts (see earlier thread).
The major drivers of the structural deficit are Social Security (there will need to be another move to up the retirement age to 65 and 70 which would stabilize it), Medicare and Medicaid. Medicaid got some modest pruning in the BBB reconciliation bill. Medicare is untouched so far.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (ctrM5)
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265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
You sir, are a true Patriot!
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
You sir, are a true Patriot!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (uCjyK)
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Do you think she knows?
Smell like the hospital?
You are less stressed subconsciously?
You visited her while in Spritland?
Smell like the hospital?
You are less stressed subconsciously?
You visited her while in Spritland?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (QB+5g)
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241 Wolfus, last night Keiko, the gorgeous long hair calico who has been visiting our yard at night laid down on the grass a few feet away from me. She's either stray or feral and has always bolted before, but she has begun giving me these long stares while she sits on the fence or in the yard.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (B3wyN)
Have you put on a few pounds lately?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:20 PM (B3wyN)
Have you put on a few pounds lately?
Posted by: Rich marbling at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (TbWk/)
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I think it's the tuna sandwich he carries outside.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (UjdFS)
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"The other odd thing to report is that little Dagny the aloof Siberian cat has climbed up to the lamp table next to me and is dozing half on and half off the sofa arm. She has never done this with me. Does she think I'm sick?"
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
She absolutely knows. My female cat slept right by the break on my arm 24-7 virtually from the day I broke it to the day the doctor pronounced it healed. On the side it was broken. At the hip not the head or feet. She never slept in that spot before or since.
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Didn't you just have an operation?
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
She absolutely knows. My female cat slept right by the break on my arm 24-7 virtually from the day I broke it to the day the doctor pronounced it healed. On the side it was broken. At the hip not the head or feet. She never slept in that spot before or since.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (8avO+)
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A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
A whole apartment in an afternoon! Two coats!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
A whole apartment in an afternoon! Two coats!
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (77rzZ)
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This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster
A promotional video released by U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth forecasting “drone dominance” has been recast after Metallica successfully demanded the removal of one of their songs from the offering.
The original clip used Metallica’s 1991 metal anthem “Enter Sandman” as Hegseth can be seen speaking to camera as he explains how his department is fulfilling the Oval Office order.
“This is the future,” he declared. “We’re in the fight. We’re in the fight to win it. And we’re never gonna back down.”
The track has since been scrubbed from social media after the band objected to a copyright breach per its unauthorized use.
This is gold: Hegseth just pulled the DOD out of the Aspen globalist summit at the last minute. https://tinyurl.com/5n7rtwu8
Posted by: beckster
A promotional video released by U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth forecasting “drone dominance” has been recast after Metallica successfully demanded the removal of one of their songs from the offering.
The original clip used Metallica’s 1991 metal anthem “Enter Sandman” as Hegseth can be seen speaking to camera as he explains how his department is fulfilling the Oval Office order.
“This is the future,” he declared. “We’re in the fight. We’re in the fight to win it. And we’re never gonna back down.”
The track has since been scrubbed from social media after the band objected to a copyright breach per its unauthorized use.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (63Dwl)
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Never stop nudging the argument Left, CNBC. That's all you've got. Once you start reporting the "Real News," people will never believe you again.
Posted by: Kurtz at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (LRhmV)
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I think it's the tuna sandwich he carries outside.
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (UjdFS)
A tiger's favorite food!
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 03:27 PM (UjdFS)
A tiger's favorite food!
Posted by: Calvin at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (wVcYX)
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268 265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
Oh noes you can’t humble brag about your most recent purchases of luxury cars.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
Oh noes you can’t humble brag about your most recent purchases of luxury cars.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (VofaG)
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Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025
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I don't know about "at" me, but she is purring. With her it's hard to tell unless you put an ear to her side or run a finger along her voice box.
When I came back from oral surgery years ago, little Oreo the part-Persian climbed up in bed and slept the afternoon with me. Clearly she knew something was wrong. I'm not lying in bed this time right now, so I wonder how Dagny can know.
Well, you *do* have an injury of sorts, correct? Is she purring at you?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 14, 2025
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I don't know about "at" me, but she is purring. With her it's hard to tell unless you put an ear to her side or run a finger along her voice box.
When I came back from oral surgery years ago, little Oreo the part-Persian climbed up in bed and slept the afternoon with me. Clearly she knew something was wrong. I'm not lying in bed this time right now, so I wonder how Dagny can know.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (omVj0)
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The Eastern Front of World War II resulted in staggering casualties, with the Soviet Union suffering the most, followed by Germany. Estimates vary, but the Soviet Union lost between 8.8 and 10.7 million soldiers and 10.4 to 13.3 million civilians. Germany sustained around 5.3 million military deaths, primarily on the Eastern Front.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (Ovc06)
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (HZLHo)
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Churchillian in Nature from the Greatest President in a Trillion Years ......
Former Greatest Ever President Obama’s message to Democrats is to “just toughen up” amid frustration with the political landscape under President Trump.
“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said in remarks at a private fundraiser Friday in New Jersey, according to excerpts of his remarks obtained by CNN.
“Don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he said.
Former Greatest Ever President Obama’s message to Democrats is to “just toughen up” amid frustration with the political landscape under President Trump.
“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said in remarks at a private fundraiser Friday in New Jersey, according to excerpts of his remarks obtained by CNN.
“Don’t tell me you’re a Democrat, but you’re kind of disappointed right now, so you’re not doing anything. No, now is exactly the time that you get in there and do something,” he said.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (aKoaI)
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Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
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I’m fucking ecstatic, thanks for asking.
Posted by: jwest at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (lnMN4)
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I’m fucking ecstatic, thanks for asking.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (u73oe)
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If we are talking just manual labor in agriculture, I think it's probably 90% illegals. There are probably a few legals and citizens in supervisory positions, but the guy actually picking the shit are almost exclusively illegal. It's like yard service workers in suburban NYC and NJ -- 99% illegals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
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Possibly, but if they're legal citizens then they aren't as pliable and desperate as illegals. I suspect the laborers are a rotating crop of illegals paid and treated as basically slave labor. In suburban areas, they gather at the crack of dawn in 7-11 parking lots and wait for the trucks to come to pick out workers they want for the day -- like a slave auction. I doubt any of these are legals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
We’ve had these illegals for decades so a lot of these workers are anchor babies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
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Possibly, but if they're legal citizens then they aren't as pliable and desperate as illegals. I suspect the laborers are a rotating crop of illegals paid and treated as basically slave labor. In suburban areas, they gather at the crack of dawn in 7-11 parking lots and wait for the trucks to come to pick out workers they want for the day -- like a slave auction. I doubt any of these are legals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
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280 This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (HZLHo)
My mother had a double hip replacement. I was very disappointed to find out that she didn't even request to keep the originals.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:24 PM (omVj0)
Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:29 PM (HZLHo)
My mother had a double hip replacement. I was very disappointed to find out that she didn't even request to keep the originals.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (KbCG3)
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Maybe in a few years, say five or six, your visitor and my Dagny will deign to acknowledge us.
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She deigns to accept the food I put out; primarily leftovers the other cats have failed to finish.
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She deigns to accept the food I put out; primarily leftovers the other cats have failed to finish.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (fElA8)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
Farm work has been largely mechanized for 100 years.
There are no longer hundreds of people hand picking corn in fields at harvest time, requiring a massive amount of seasonal labor.
This "we need illegals or we'll starve to death" talking point is insulting to our intelligence.
The illegals working on those farms have what many of us would consider decent jobs, and Americans should be working those jobs, and Big Ag should have to follow American employment laws, like the rest of the country. (currently, farm work is exempted from a lot of labor laws, but not from immigration laws, and yet somehow this is the status quo.)
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
Farm work has been largely mechanized for 100 years.
There are no longer hundreds of people hand picking corn in fields at harvest time, requiring a massive amount of seasonal labor.
This "we need illegals or we'll starve to death" talking point is insulting to our intelligence.
The illegals working on those farms have what many of us would consider decent jobs, and Americans should be working those jobs, and Big Ag should have to follow American employment laws, like the rest of the country. (currently, farm work is exempted from a lot of labor laws, but not from immigration laws, and yet somehow this is the status quo.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (uCjyK)
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265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
Posted by: jwest
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Previously you were around talking about how much Covid relief money you got and your tax breaks. Que sera sera.
Posted by: jwest
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Previously you were around talking about how much Covid relief money you got and your tax breaks. Que sera sera.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 14, 2025 03:28 PM (Ovc06)
Under 2 million on the eastern front . 1.2 million is what I read long ago,
Under 2 million on the eastern front . 1.2 million is what I read long ago,
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (VofaG)
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But few people want to talk about that because the Thin Blue Line crowd is just as knee-jerk and dogmatic as BLM.
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I'd be more inclined to be Thin Blue Line if they're weren't so willing to prostitute their image with motorcyle cops. Those cops are police, they are revenue machines and I resent that any police force even pretends otherwise.
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I'd be more inclined to be Thin Blue Line if they're weren't so willing to prostitute their image with motorcyle cops. Those cops are police, they are revenue machines and I resent that any police force even pretends otherwise.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:31 PM (TN0g+)
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The track has since been scrubbed from social media after the band objected to a copyright breach per its unauthorized use.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Did they actually forget about copyright, or did they just go ahead and use it anyway because they thought Metallica wouldn't give them the rights?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Did they actually forget about copyright, or did they just go ahead and use it anyway because they thought Metallica wouldn't give them the rights?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:31 PM (77rzZ)
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They could rent the equipment, as well, instead of buying it.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
True. I see huge pieces of equipment going up and fown the highway at certain times of the year.
Farmer that has land and doesn't want to deal with planting and harvest hires out the job.
Same with hay. We grow it. Someone else cuts & bales it. We could negotiate a deal on how much we could keep.
A whole field of potatoes in a couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
True. I see huge pieces of equipment going up and fown the highway at certain times of the year.
Farmer that has land and doesn't want to deal with planting and harvest hires out the job.
Same with hay. We grow it. Someone else cuts & bales it. We could negotiate a deal on how much we could keep.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 03:32 PM (+bLMA)
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I think it's the tuna sandwich he carries outside.
Posted by: wth
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: wth
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (RErwz)
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Possibly, but if they're legal citizens then they aren't as pliable and desperate as illegals. I suspect the laborers are a rotating crop of illegals paid and treated as basically slave labor. In suburban areas, they gather at the crack of dawn in 7-11 parking lots and wait for the trucks to come to pick out workers they want for the day -- like a slave auction. I doubt any of these are legals.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
Look at the "Trade Parade" leaving the Hamptons every day at 6-7pm. Thousands and thousands of beat up old pick up trucks and 1993 Honda Civics with NJ temp plates full of Hispanic people leaving one of the richest areas to drive home to whatever hovels they live in.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
Look at the "Trade Parade" leaving the Hamptons every day at 6-7pm. Thousands and thousands of beat up old pick up trucks and 1993 Honda Civics with NJ temp plates full of Hispanic people leaving one of the richest areas to drive home to whatever hovels they live in.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (uCjyK)
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Alumnanatti.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (NaR/G)
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This morning. But I'm sitting up on the couch. Do you think she knows?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025
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Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025
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No leftovers. They opened me up, pushed some stuff back in, and sealed the breach (I hope for good).
Maybe Dagny scents something odd about me since I got the antibiotics and anesthesia.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025
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Maybe she wants the piece they took out?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025
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No leftovers. They opened me up, pushed some stuff back in, and sealed the breach (I hope for good).
Maybe Dagny scents something odd about me since I got the antibiotics and anesthesia.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:34 PM (omVj0)
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Wait until no tax on tips, no tax on social security, handing pensioners formerly off-set SS funds due to changes in laws, and so on. Oh, and Assisted Living Care facilities needing more money - much more - is or Pop goes home.
Medicare/medicaid pikers need to be removed from rolls and paying towards their existence; illegals need to be out of hospital ERs and the zillion 'underground' physician & PA services that have been setup for them. Student loans, federal loan programs need total restructuring & enforcement.
If your children are being raised by others, that's where the $ goes. Time to stop addicts, etc. from still receiving funding if they don't seriously try to improve their own lives.
Stop marijuana in any form & other questionable drugs for those that need to have jobs. They're not supposed to be using & driving. How can employers trust they won't injure someone else - or kill themselves - on the job? Who insures them?
How ya gonna make the pikers work?
Pennsylvania’s Medical Marijuana Program Expanded Significantly After Anxiety Was Added As A Qualifying Condition, Study Shows, 9 July 2025
Can't save everyone but the idle mind IS the devil's workshop..
Medicare/medicaid pikers need to be removed from rolls and paying towards their existence; illegals need to be out of hospital ERs and the zillion 'underground' physician & PA services that have been setup for them. Student loans, federal loan programs need total restructuring & enforcement.
If your children are being raised by others, that's where the $ goes. Time to stop addicts, etc. from still receiving funding if they don't seriously try to improve their own lives.
Stop marijuana in any form & other questionable drugs for those that need to have jobs. They're not supposed to be using & driving. How can employers trust they won't injure someone else - or kill themselves - on the job? Who insures them?
How ya gonna make the pikers work?
Pennsylvania’s Medical Marijuana Program Expanded Significantly After Anxiety Was Added As A Qualifying Condition, Study Shows, 9 July 2025
Can't save everyone but the idle mind IS the devil's workshop..
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (NFX2v)
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The illegals working on those farms have what many of us would consider decent jobs, and Americans should be working those jobs, and Big Ag should have to follow American employment laws, like the rest of the country. (currently, farm work is exempted from a lot of labor laws, but not from immigration laws, and yet somehow this is the status quo.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Harry, with all due respect, I come from a farming state and visit it frequently. Plus I interviewed farmers for the various ag surveys in summer to pay for grad school back in the day and come personally from a farming family. The illegals, more or less are not present much in large rowcrop farms. That is because the equipment is incredibly expensive and often the only person that ends up operating it is the farmer or one of his family due to trust. Modern cotton pickers or combines run close to a cool million nowadays, tractors of the sort used for field operations are GPS guided, network linked, and damn near drive themselves.
Most of the illegals, if any, work at agri processing plants (cotton gins, grain elevators, livestock, produce, etc. where low skill and nasty working conditions prevail).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Harry, with all due respect, I come from a farming state and visit it frequently. Plus I interviewed farmers for the various ag surveys in summer to pay for grad school back in the day and come personally from a farming family. The illegals, more or less are not present much in large rowcrop farms. That is because the equipment is incredibly expensive and often the only person that ends up operating it is the farmer or one of his family due to trust. Modern cotton pickers or combines run close to a cool million nowadays, tractors of the sort used for field operations are GPS guided, network linked, and damn near drive themselves.
Most of the illegals, if any, work at agri processing plants (cotton gins, grain elevators, livestock, produce, etc. where low skill and nasty working conditions prevail).
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
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A Hawaiian judge ruled that ICE can't pick up illegals at Home Depot locations. No, I have no idea what the legal basis for that is. I'm pretty sure HD isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)
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As a young'n, I tamed a feral barn kitten. One, from a litter of 3. It took a lot of patience, and a lot of treats.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
He went on to become a chunky lovable pet. His siblings kept the homestead free of mice, and occasionally taught our German shepherd that cornering a feral cat leads to nose wounds.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (omVj0)
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It's right there in the Home Depot Clause of the Constitution.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (NaR/G)
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I don't understand these economists who completely squander their reputations in service of the Democratic Party and the verminous media. My reputation would matter too much for that.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 14, 2025 03:36 PM (kTd/k)
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It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (dfIr7)
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So Columbia could pay their tariffs in the form of nubile young wimmins?
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Colombia has legal prostitution, and lots and lots of weed and coke. The only ones to ride for free in Bogotá are the politicians, and only the senior ones at that.
Posted by: Some Moron at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Colombia has legal prostitution, and lots and lots of weed and coke. The only ones to ride for free in Bogotá are the politicians, and only the senior ones at that.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (D7oie)
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Noodus icenana
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (omVj0)
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Look at the "Trade Parade" leaving the Hamptons every day at 6-7pm. Thousands and thousands of beat up old pick up trucks and 1993 Honda Civics with NJ temp plates full of Hispanic people leaving one of the richest areas to drive home to whatever hovels they live in.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (uCjyK)
"Doing the jobs that Americans won't do" is pure bullshit. Americans WILL do the jobs, but they won't do it for sub-minimum wage off the books, which is what agribusiness and the Muffys and Thurstons of the world want. "Nobody wants to work anymore" - not at wages that were sub-entry-level in 1994 they don't.
I would wager almost 100% of them are illegals.
And there is absolutely no reason US citizens can't mow the lawns of $20 million seasonal mansions, and they should get paid appropriately for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 03:33 PM (uCjyK)
"Doing the jobs that Americans won't do" is pure bullshit. Americans WILL do the jobs, but they won't do it for sub-minimum wage off the books, which is what agribusiness and the Muffys and Thurstons of the world want. "Nobody wants to work anymore" - not at wages that were sub-entry-level in 1994 they don't.
Posted by: Market-clearing wage? Never heard of it. at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (TbWk/)
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Who lost more men in WWII on the Axis side -- Krauts or Japs?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VofaG)
Japanese military casualties during World War II are estimated to be between 2.5 million and 3.1 million.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
The Germans by far
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VofaG)
Japanese military casualties during World War II are estimated to be between 2.5 million and 3.1 million.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)
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It's right there in the Home Depot Clause of the Constitution.
Posted by: Boss Moss
That's where they talk about Drills of Attainder, right?
Posted by: Boss Moss
That's where they talk about Drills of Attainder, right?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 03:38 PM (77rzZ)
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Medicare/medicaid pikers need to be removed from rolls and paying towards their existence; illegals need to be out of hospital ERs and the zillion 'underground' physician & PA services that have been setup for them. Student loans, federal loan programs need total restructuring & enforcement.
Posted by: L
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Medicaid finally got congressional attention and cuts were made precisely where you wanted them. Same with student loans for grad school. Currently student borrowers are being dunned again after 5 years including garnishing wages, tax returns, etc.
Medicare is an age related attachment to Social Security which makes it much harder to fix. Most likely, medicare taxes will go up by a couple of percentage points in payroll taxes.
Posted by: L
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Medicaid finally got congressional attention and cuts were made precisely where you wanted them. Same with student loans for grad school. Currently student borrowers are being dunned again after 5 years including garnishing wages, tax returns, etc.
Medicare is an age related attachment to Social Security which makes it much harder to fix. Most likely, medicare taxes will go up by a couple of percentage points in payroll taxes.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (ctrM5)
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
Ferals can be socialized even as adults. I did so with one long ago by putting food on one side of the porch every night and then sitting quietly at the opposite end of the porch. It took about 2 months if I remember correctly.
Ferals can be socialized even as adults. I did so with one long ago by putting food on one side of the porch every night and then sitting quietly at the opposite end of the porch. It took about 2 months if I remember correctly.
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (TN0g+)
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You got him right during that narrow window when even a feral can be socialized, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Yes
I can still hear Dad, working in the garage, calling him "fatcat", and joking "you should go tell your siblings what a great deal you have here in the house. "
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Yes
I can still hear Dad, working in the garage, calling him "fatcat", and joking "you should go tell your siblings what a great deal you have here in the house. "
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (RErwz)
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Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (D7oie)
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277 268 265 Yeah, I'm writing some big checks here to cover the tariffs. I hope everyone is happy.
hmm I wasn't super happy before but ...
ok well you've convinced me!
hmm I wasn't super happy before but ...
ok well you've convinced me!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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It had the disadvantage that right after the start of the term when the new president is maximally busy there is a huge added turnover. Lincoln had this issue at the start of the ACW. On the other hand, fewer hangover traitors from the other party.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, you can go back 5000 or so years and see what happens when the 'mandarins' have more power than the executive power.
Every system has its drawbacks but to me the one that makes people in power the more accountable is superior to the one that makes them less so, whatever the drawbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 03:37 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, you can go back 5000 or so years and see what happens when the 'mandarins' have more power than the executive power.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (8avO+)
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301 I don't understand these economists who completely squander their reputations in service of the Democratic Party and the verminous media. My reputation would matter too much for that.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
Posted by: Still lurking up north
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Because to them, it is akin to becoming an atheist. The Party is their faith.
To be fair I don't have any kind of reputation to protect, but still.
Posted by: Still lurking up north
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Because to them, it is akin to becoming an atheist. The Party is their faith.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 03:40 PM (ctrM5)
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Where does the EU get its money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (D7oie)
At this point, I don't think the EU has direct taxing power. This pisses them off a lot. Once they get that it is all over for Europe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 02:53 PM (63Dwl)
Taxes, printing, and most recently getting loans from the US.
AT POWELL'S HIGH RATE!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 03:39 PM (D7oie)
At this point, I don't think the EU has direct taxing power. This pisses them off a lot. Once they get that it is all over for Europe.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 03:41 PM (8avO+)
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"Doing the jobs that Americans won't do" is pure bullshit. Americans WILL do the jobs, but they won't do it for sub-minimum wage off the books, which is what agribusiness and the Muffys and Thurstons of the world want. "Nobody wants to work anymore" - not at wages that were sub-entry-level in 1994 they don't.
so I always had an American dude - a neighbor even! - doing the grounds. just realized why the ELITES don't want to hire him or someone like him
I talk to him! he comes by, we shoot the shit, talk about our gardens, etc. he makes fun of my orchid problems.
these people just want quiet slaves! they don't want to do the chit-chat!
so I always had an American dude - a neighbor even! - doing the grounds. just realized why the ELITES don't want to hire him or someone like him
I talk to him! he comes by, we shoot the shit, talk about our gardens, etc. he makes fun of my orchid problems.
these people just want quiet slaves! they don't want to do the chit-chat!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
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A Hawaiian judge ruled that ICE can't pick up illegals at Home Depot locations. No, I have no idea what the legal basis for that is. I'm pretty sure HD isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)
So? Have ICE, or observers in civilian clothes set up across the street, and observe the illegals with telescopes (and video, of course). When a group of them enter a vehicle, radio the vehicle's description and tag number to ICE agents a block or two away to pull them over.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)
So? Have ICE, or observers in civilian clothes set up across the street, and observe the illegals with telescopes (and video, of course). When a group of them enter a vehicle, radio the vehicle's description and tag number to ICE agents a block or two away to pull them over.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 03:42 PM (b47tW)
"Unprepared and Entitled:" Hiring Managers Aren't Impressed by the Products of American University Education
Our best and brightest don't know how to read, write, think, talk, or work.
Let's pay another ten trillion to our "universities."That last part is a killer. It's also why DEI hires/promotions are usually a disaster. Everyone infected with woke is also infected by the comorbidity of believing that all criticism/direction from your boss is a racial or sexual aggression, and that you're perfect the way you are, and that anyone who attempts to instruct you to do the job the right way is a racist who doesn't understand your Different Ways of Knowing. It's an evil and destructive doctrine -- it's a guarantee against any self-improvement at any point in your future. It's a talisman that protects you from excellence and achievement. And they've all got it.
A recent survey from Intelligent found that "1 in 4 hiring managers say recent grads are unprepared for the workforce" and "1 in 8 managers [are] planning to avoid hiring them in 2025." The main reasons for this are lack of preparation, a so-so work ethic, and a sense of entitlement among the grads, according to the survey. "24% of hiring managers believe recent college graduates are unprepared for the workforce, while 33% cite a lack of work ethic, and 29% view them as entitled," the survey found. "Additionally, 27% feel recent graduates are easily offended, and 25% say they don't respond well to feedback."
Maybe they have to show something other than GPA because all employers now know that colleges give everyone, even people who don't ever come to class, A's and B's with a skew towards the A's. Maybe students aren't alone in failure.
The survey results appear to mirror a trend found in recent headlines. A "2025 college graduate job market" search conducted by The College Fix produced the following headlines: "Class of 2025 College Grads Face Uncertain Job Market" "Job Market is Getting Tougher for College Graduates" "New Grads Struggling to Find Work in Job Market "No Hire, No Fire: The Worst Market for Grads in Years" ... He suggested grads tout their "skills and talent, not just a GPA" to "share what [they] are doing to continuously make [themselves] better."
On Sunday, the National Education Association -- which represents over 3 million teachers and school personnel -- passed a resolution at its annual conference pledging to combat what it labeled "Trump's embrace of fascism." The problem? The resolution repeatedly spelled the word "fascism" as "facism." The resolution read in part: "NEA pledges to defend democracy against Trump's embrace of facism [sic] by using the term facism [sic] in NEA materials to correctly characterize Donald Trump's program and actions." It went on to claim that opposing Trump was essential for "the survival of civilization itself" and demanded additional staff and funding -- to the tune of $3,500 -- to carry out the initiative. The misspelling, however, quickly overshadowed the message. Corey A. DeAngelis, a conservative education expert, blasted the NEA in an X post and follow-up opinion piece. "Yes, the union that claims to represent educators couldn't even spell 'fascism' correctly in its official resolution attacking the president," he wrote. "The irony is almost too rich to parody."
Back in November 2024, the Atlantic posted an article: "The Elite College Students Who Can't Read Books." The word "elite" seems wildly misplaced in that sentence.
The Elite College Students Who Can't Read Books
To read a book in college, it helps to have read a book in high school.
Nicholas Dames has taught Literature Humanities, Columbia University's required great-books course, since 1998. He loves the job, but it has changed. Over the past decade, students have become overwhelmed by the reading. College kids have never read everything they're assigned, of course, but this feels different. Dames's students now seem bewildered by the thought of finishing multiple books a semester. His colleagues have noticed the same problem. Many students no longer arrive at college--even at highly selective, elite colleges--prepared to read books. This development puzzled Dames until one day during the fall 2022 semester, when a first-year student came to his office hours to share how challenging she had found the early assignments. Lit Hum often requires students to read a book, sometimes a very long and dense one, in just a week or two. But the student told Dames that, at her public high school, she had never been required to read an entire book. She had been assigned excerpts, poetry, and news articles, but not a single book cover to cover. "My jaw dropped," Dames told me. The anecdote helped explain the change he was seeing in his students: It's not that they don't want to do the reading. It's that they don't know how. Middle and high schools have stopped asking them to.
... Twenty years ago, Dames's classes had no problem engaging in sophisticated discussions of Pride and Prejudice one week and Crime and Punishment the next. Now his students tell him up front that the reading load feels impossible. It's not just the frenetic pace; they struggle to attend to small details while keeping track of the overall plot. No comprehensive data exist on this trend, but the majority of the 33 professors I spoke with relayed similar experiences. Many had discussed the change at faculty meetings and in conversations with fellow instructors. Anthony Grafton, a Princeton historian, said his students arrive on campus with a narrower vocabulary and less understanding of language than they used to have. There are always students who "read insightfully and easily and write beautifully," he said, "but they are now more exceptions." Jack Chen, a Chinese-literature professor at the University of Virginia, finds his students "shutting down" when confronted with ideas they don't understand; they're less able to persist through a challenging text than they used to be. Daniel Shore, the chair of Georgetown's English department, told me that his students have trouble staying focused on even a sonnet. Failing to complete a 14-line poem without succumbing to distraction suggests one familiar explanation for the decline in reading aptitude: smartphones. Teenagers are constantly tempted by their devices, which inhibits their preparation for the rigors of college coursework--then they get to college, and the distractions keep flowing. "It's changed expectations about what's worthy of attention," Daniel Willingham, a psychologist at UVA, told me. "Being bored has become unnatural." Reading books, even for pleasure, can't compete with TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. In 1976, about 40 percent of high-school seniors said they had read at least six books for fun in the previous year, compared with 11.5 percent who hadn't read any. By 2022, those percentages had flipped.
This UConn student is completely illiterate, by her own admission.
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My youngest tells me that the other intern in their group this summer gets a lot of coaching on professional communication.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)
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Posted by: RUReadingthis at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (aQ25I)
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As a 45 year-old contractor within the DoD orbit, I see it every day, and I LOVE it.
All I have to be is 'mildly competent,' and I'm leaps and bounds better than these jackwagons. Actually begin good at my job just widens the chasm between me and my 'peers.'
I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
All I have to be is 'mildly competent,' and I'm leaps and bounds better than these jackwagons. Actually begin good at my job just widens the chasm between me and my 'peers.'
I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
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The collapse of American education is actually the biggest story of the modern era. But it is little discussed.
In short: We are boned. Civilization is doomed.
"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
In short: We are boned. Civilization is doomed.
"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
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My son works 50-65 hours per week (finance). He's in it until he gets F-U money or burns out, whichever comes first. He is a millennial. His masters is from a state school, however.
They aren't all slackers.
They aren't all slackers.
Posted by: Ann at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (4neFu)
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It's okay, though.
Now we have ChatGPT to produce book summaries for students, so they can sound like they've read the book and maybe even feel they did get the gist of it.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Now we have ChatGPT to produce book summaries for students, so they can sound like they've read the book and maybe even feel they did get the gist of it.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (mXn49)
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Can't even read cursive.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (DJPFk)
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This started a long time ago. I was in a trade school in the 90s and we stopped class one day to teach basic math to a single student, I'm talking division and multiplication. he claimed teachers discouraged the students from reading.
Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (U/7CP)
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Affirmative Action Has Consequences
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (Bi+MU)
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"This UConn student is completely illiterate, by her own admission."
Sorry, but I'm calling BIGGUS BULLSHITTUS on that. She seems reasonably articulate and intelligent in the video, and she's from Puerto Rico where English is an official language. I'll bet money this is an op or plea for attention.
Sorry, but I'm calling BIGGUS BULLSHITTUS on that. She seems reasonably articulate and intelligent in the video, and she's from Puerto Rico where English is an official language. I'll bet money this is an op or plea for attention.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
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Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
Heh.
Hehehehe.
hahahahHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
....
Wait, you're serious?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
Heh.
Hehehehe.
hahahahHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
....
Wait, you're serious?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (VoAdT)
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Also, Computers and the Internet are the worst things that ever happened for Education.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (Bi+MU)
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Fascinating. Shows how much the Left loves abortion.
Normally they eradicate the "intellectuals" AFTER they take over, but now they're preventing them from even being formed!
Normally they eradicate the "intellectuals" AFTER they take over, but now they're preventing them from even being formed!
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (JCZqz)
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I don't have a pithy take on this other than
a) this will be used as the excuse to let in more H1B's and other immigrants to take white collar jobs
b) there is certainly a loss of institutional competency throughout education
c) a not unsubstantial part of this is driven by immigrants, many of whom come to the US and are put in classrooms for the first time in their lives as 12 year olds, where they don't speak English and are 8 years behind where their classmates are, which massively slows down education for everyone.
and
d) I remember these exact same articles being written when my generation (millennials) were graduating college.
a) this will be used as the excuse to let in more H1B's and other immigrants to take white collar jobs
b) there is certainly a loss of institutional competency throughout education
c) a not unsubstantial part of this is driven by immigrants, many of whom come to the US and are put in classrooms for the first time in their lives as 12 year olds, where they don't speak English and are 8 years behind where their classmates are, which massively slows down education for everyone.
and
d) I remember these exact same articles being written when my generation (millennials) were graduating college.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:28 PM (uCjyK)
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>>I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Only 10% on Ace and the Hub?
That's dedication.
Only 10% on Ace and the Hub?
That's dedication.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:29 PM (Bi+MU)
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he claimed teachers discouraged the students from reading.
Plausible. Because students who will read on their own initiative might figure out that 1) (some) teachers are full of sh*t and 2) maybe they don't really need teachers at all.
Plausible. Because students who will read on their own initiative might figure out that 1) (some) teachers are full of sh*t and 2) maybe they don't really need teachers at all.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:29 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Some new college grad at July 14, 2025 01:30 PM (t0Rmr)
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Reading at college can be dangerous.
Remember by modern standards even most leftwing authors from the past are "far right wing extremist bigots".
Remember by modern standards even most leftwing authors from the past are "far right wing extremist bigots".
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (t0Rmr)
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"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
My Gen Z legal interns think I'm a dinosaur when I get mad at them for using ChatGPT for everything.
First off, ChatGPT sucks. Second off, I'm giving you this assignment because I want YOU to learn how to write a demand letter. I can do it myself it speed was the ultimate goal.
You're not going to learn by copy and pasting from ChatGPT.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
My Gen Z legal interns think I'm a dinosaur when I get mad at them for using ChatGPT for everything.
First off, ChatGPT sucks. Second off, I'm giving you this assignment because I want YOU to learn how to write a demand letter. I can do it myself it speed was the ultimate goal.
You're not going to learn by copy and pasting from ChatGPT.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (uCjyK)
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Our best and brightest don't know how to read, write, think, talk, or work.
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Case in point, J-school grads.
Local headline yesterday:
"How will [local college] foootball team fair this season.
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Case in point, J-school grads.
Local headline yesterday:
"How will [local college] foootball team fair this season.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (poXs5)
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Worse, they don’t “know people” or focus on making strategic friends.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (Pce4l)
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Competence is a Christian-fascist ideal.
And trying to do well is taking unfair advantage of those who can't. I wish we were both kidding but we aren't.
And trying to do well is taking unfair advantage of those who can't. I wish we were both kidding but we aren't.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (/y8xj)
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I think that colleges always shit out a significant percentage of morons, slackers, and imbeciles. That's not new. What is new is that those MSI are no longer disappearing into the background after graduation. They're demanding high-powered jobs. And if the Biden era is any indication, at least some of them are getting them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)
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Too bad there's not a place on the interwebz where one could have a weekly discussion of all things books and writing...
Posted by: Oh, wait... at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (bcy1V)
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Now we have ChatGPT to produce book summaries for students, so they can sound like they've read the book and maybe even feel they did get the gist of it.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Posted by: Dr. T
_________
They've always been available. Or at least well before the internet via Cliffsnotes. It's 100% the ease of availability through the smartphones.
Welcome to my nightmare.
Posted by: Dr. T
_________
They've always been available. Or at least well before the internet via Cliffsnotes. It's 100% the ease of availability through the smartphones.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (p16cu)
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Let's not pretend that these little mouthbreathing homunculi would all turn into men and women of letters if they just paid a little more attention in class or had teachers who weren't all slinging dildoes around and cornholing anything that stops moving for three seconds.
It likely isn't so much that there's so many more mediocrities than there once were, so much as we're taking the same old mediocrities who knew better than to go to college in the first place, shoving a piece of construction paper with their name on it into their hand, inserting them feet first into the woodchipper of debt slavery, and saying "congratulations you're a college now".
It likely isn't so much that there's so many more mediocrities than there once were, so much as we're taking the same old mediocrities who knew better than to go to college in the first place, shoving a piece of construction paper with their name on it into their hand, inserting them feet first into the woodchipper of debt slavery, and saying "congratulations you're a college now".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
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F u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb!
Posted by: 1978 Subway Ad at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (G5+As)
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son works 50-65 hours per week (finance). He's in it until he gets F-U money or burns out"
I have one who did that. He now does odd jobs "when he feels like it".
Has a nearly $500k house (no mortgage), nice truck, and a very nice set of various investments. Says he's tired of working with stupid people...
I have one who did that. He now does odd jobs "when he feels like it".
Has a nearly $500k house (no mortgage), nice truck, and a very nice set of various investments. Says he's tired of working with stupid people...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (tubbA)
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12 Also, Computers and the Internet are the worst things that ever happened for Education.
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Yep.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (W3T6M)
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I’ve noticed a lot of them seem to be allergic to punctuality as well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (u73oe)
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I see a field ripe for exploitation by trial lawyers.
Massive multi billion dollar class action because Johnny and Jane cannot follow their dream into a McMansion.
Massive multi billion dollar class action because Johnny and Jane cannot follow their dream into a McMansion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (tT6L1)
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What kind of test scores can a student be getting if she can't read? UConn's acceptance standards have always been of the "closing time" variety, but they don't even have standards now.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (2ap+5)
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>>Let's not pretend that these little mouthbreathing homunculi would all turn into men and women of letters if they just paid a little more attention in class or had teachers who weren't all slinging dildoes around and cornholing anything that stops moving for three seconds.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (Bi+MU)
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Actually, illiteracy begins in 1st grade.
Kids should be reading right out of the gate, if they aren't reading they aren't learning.
Kids should be reading right out of the gate, if they aren't reading they aren't learning.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (XV/Pl)
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Aside from AoS, my most addictive online readin g is the "Teachers" subreddit on Reddit, which is overflowing with mind-boggling horror stories about what education is like these days, and the monstrosity f American K-12 and college students.
In short, the universal consensus amongst the hundreds of thousands of teachers who comment there, is that modern students:
— Are physically incapable of learning, their brains having been shot-circuited and totally fried from infancy by iPhones, social media, gakes and AI.
— Have no curioisity, enthusiasm, empathy or ambition, and jut "don't care" about anything, even their own failure and idiocy.
— Are rude, entitled, dismissive, amoral, self-centered and smug, to the pi t of barely even being human
— Less discussed, but equally catastrophic: THe few who do learn are taught garbage and brainwashing indoctrination by the leftist curricula and teachers, so they still don't learn anything anyway, even when they do pay attention.
End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
In short, the universal consensus amongst the hundreds of thousands of teachers who comment there, is that modern students:
— Are physically incapable of learning, their brains having been shot-circuited and totally fried from infancy by iPhones, social media, gakes and AI.
— Have no curioisity, enthusiasm, empathy or ambition, and jut "don't care" about anything, even their own failure and idiocy.
— Are rude, entitled, dismissive, amoral, self-centered and smug, to the pi t of barely even being human
— Less discussed, but equally catastrophic: THe few who do learn are taught garbage and brainwashing indoctrination by the leftist curricula and teachers, so they still don't learn anything anyway, even when they do pay attention.
End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (pMi6S)
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"Competence is a Christian-fascist ideal."
They'd probably write that, but spell it "facist " instead.
They'd probably write that, but spell it "facist " instead.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (2GCMq)
38
Is it Johnny's fault? OH, NOOOOO!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (vd6bO)
39
It's a Language Model.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
It's a bit scary for me, too. I can easily spot when an intern fucks something up in a draft. But I assume my interns aren't going to fabricate caselaw and fake quotes.
ChatGPT I have to verify literally everything, and even then, I don't know if the case it cited is the controlling case. Legal research is a pain in the balls, but also there's a reason it is supposed to be done so methodically and why people spend so much time in their 1L year learning about keycites and books in libraries and all of that.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
It's a bit scary for me, too. I can easily spot when an intern fucks something up in a draft. But I assume my interns aren't going to fabricate caselaw and fake quotes.
ChatGPT I have to verify literally everything, and even then, I don't know if the case it cited is the controlling case. Legal research is a pain in the balls, but also there's a reason it is supposed to be done so methodically and why people spend so much time in their 1L year learning about keycites and books in libraries and all of that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)
40
If you're female feel free to insert the word "like" at least two times into every sentence you speak.
Posted by: Don't get me started at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (bcy1V)
41
I had an applicant write her resume on the back of her application letter (rife with grammatical errors) in pencil.
I brought her in for an interview just out of morbid curiosity. Shorts and a T-shirt, no writing instrument. No idea what we did. I ended up giving here a bit a tutorial on proper interview behavior. I'm kind of hoping she gets a job with a competitor.
I brought her in for an interview just out of morbid curiosity. Shorts and a T-shirt, no writing instrument. No idea what we did. I ended up giving here a bit a tutorial on proper interview behavior. I'm kind of hoping she gets a job with a competitor.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (dIske)
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Don't get this English major started on the current crop of illiterates.
Posted by: pookysgirl doesn't feel like typing out an essay on her phone at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (WRiYD)
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It's not that they don't want to do the reading. It's that they don't know how. Middle and high schools have stopped asking them to.
Asking?
It's not that they don't want to do the reading. It's that they don't know how. Middle and high schools have stopped asking them to.
Asking?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (63Dwl)
44
Propaganda to get H1-Bs in full...
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (tOcjL)
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I remember the story of the summer interns that didn't want to adhere to the dress code their "employer" had. So they protested and th3n were promptly fired. One of the leaders of the protest said "We were just doing what we learned in college."
I was hired right out of college. Well actually I kept the same job that had put me through college but at double my pay and got a promotion from designer to mechanical design engineer. Within two years I was a project engineer.
I was hired right out of college. Well actually I kept the same job that had put me through college but at double my pay and got a promotion from designer to mechanical design engineer. Within two years I was a project engineer.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (17s+e)
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In short, the universal consensus amongst the hundreds of thousands of teachers who comment there, is that modern students:
The problem is primarily with the culture, but American teachers are part of that problem.
The people complaining that their students are lazy and entitled, demand their raises not be tied to competence and complain bitterly any time they put in extra hours.
The problem is primarily with the culture, but American teachers are part of that problem.
The people complaining that their students are lazy and entitled, demand their raises not be tied to competence and complain bitterly any time they put in extra hours.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)
47
Organizations heavily staffed by women are incompetent and failing. How can that be?
Posted by: Ray at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (zhWvq)
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Ed Schools need to be remediated. It's source for this tidal disaster.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 01:36 PM (A1Mmr)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (Qr870)
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The problem? The resolution repeatedly spelled the word "fascism" as "facism."
maybe they don't want to offend people with a lisp. like when lara trump insulted people with a stutter when she mentioned biden's cognitive decline
maybe they don't want to offend people with a lisp. like when lara trump insulted people with a stutter when she mentioned biden's cognitive decline
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (CWTWj)
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It's a Language Model.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
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On a recent Tech Thread, it was noticed that AI functions best in environments where A) no one has the necessary expertise in a particular field and B) no one cares about the outcome.
So, government work.
Essentially, Distilled Stupidity.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:33 PM (Bi+MU)
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On a recent Tech Thread, it was noticed that AI functions best in environments where A) no one has the necessary expertise in a particular field and B) no one cares about the outcome.
So, government work.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (XZ5S6)
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About a third of these kids are on Ritalin or Xanax.
Many have the attention spans of mosquitoes and that’s on top of the relatively short attention span of the average American - television and now TikTok have that affect on people.
The most they can read is a short article without turning to their phones for a dopamine hit.
Only the young people with natural curiosity, high intelligence, the most dedication to learning and/or a certain career goal are getting an actual education these days it seems.
Many have the attention spans of mosquitoes and that’s on top of the relatively short attention span of the average American - television and now TikTok have that affect on people.
The most they can read is a short article without turning to their phones for a dopamine hit.
Only the young people with natural curiosity, high intelligence, the most dedication to learning and/or a certain career goal are getting an actual education these days it seems.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (6ydKt)
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welp I have one recent grad who graduated into a job waiting for her and I promise you she is smart as hell and a hard worker
she works in tech and tells me she is shocked to no longer be the "smartest" - they are all so sharp
so .. this isn't everyone. she did get a STEM degree and all my kids went to private catholic schools and read a LOT of books in school and out
this story is why we paid a whole fuckton of money for the private catholic schools, sigh
they were worth it tho
she works in tech and tells me she is shocked to no longer be the "smartest" - they are all so sharp
so .. this isn't everyone. she did get a STEM degree and all my kids went to private catholic schools and read a LOT of books in school and out
this story is why we paid a whole fuckton of money for the private catholic schools, sigh
they were worth it tho
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I remember the story of the summer interns that didn't want to adhere to the dress code their "employer" had. So they protested and th3n were promptly fired. One of the leaders of the protest said "We were just doing what we learned in college."
TBH it was a great learning experience for them I hope.
A manager will put up with some amount of crap from high performing employees but an intern? NEXT.
TBH it was a great learning experience for them I hope.
A manager will put up with some amount of crap from high performing employees but an intern? NEXT.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
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As a Millennial I just want to enjoy it being my turn to say:
Man these kids today, amirite??
Good start but wait until you get your first junk mail from AARP before setting the rocker out on the front porch.
Man these kids today, amirite??
Good start but wait until you get your first junk mail from AARP before setting the rocker out on the front porch.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (/y8xj)
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DEI will not go away until all women are fired from HR.
All other measures allow the cancer core to remain.
Woke/DEI is a supremacist mind-virus impervious to facts or consequences.
And it will still survive outside due to Griggs v. Duke Energy, which outsourced placement test to higher ed.
Which, like all monopolies, have found they are not personally responsible for producing a product of any quality because the customer is trapped.
All other measures allow the cancer core to remain.
Woke/DEI is a supremacist mind-virus impervious to facts or consequences.
And it will still survive outside due to Griggs v. Duke Energy, which outsourced placement test to higher ed.
Which, like all monopolies, have found they are not personally responsible for producing a product of any quality because the customer is trapped.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (JThEY)
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47 Organizations heavily staffed by women are incompetent and failing. How can that be?
Ray Im female and I agree with you
Ray Im female and I agree with you
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Let me help you get your kids off to a good start.
Posted by: Theodore Geisel at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (bcy1V)
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The future's pretty bleak when you consider there will likely be nobody who can repair or maintain the technology and infrastructure in modern society. The coming collapse will be the end of America as it slides into a giant, technologically broken society with small pockets of civilization barely kept alive by the few who actually know how to fix and build shit.
And that's after the civil war(s) that had decimated what survived the original collapse.
Makes for a good EoT book.
And that's after the civil war(s) that had decimated what survived the original collapse.
Makes for a good EoT book.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)
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Speaking of which, I got unsolicited junk mail from an assisted living facility last week. Google probably told them to send it.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (/y8xj)
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56 Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
This, too, 100%. Companies want the benefits of America while paying the wages of the 3rd world to slaves who can't leave them. We need a new slogan. American First And Always for American Companies.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
This, too, 100%. Companies want the benefits of America while paying the wages of the 3rd world to slaves who can't leave them. We need a new slogan. American First And Always for American Companies.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (tOcjL)
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my daughter's co has very little HR. she wasn't onboarded at all
just got in, got projects, here's the team, start coding shit
just got in, got projects, here's the team, start coding shit
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Affirmative Action Has Consequences
Posted by: garrett
Once you accept that the only reason for failure is racism, then standards are just an arcane relic. That's why universities fight so hard to avoid getting rid of DEI.
https://is.gd/lYhw05
Harvard Grad Schools Rebrand Diversity Offices as University Wipes DEI Messaging
So far, the rebranding has largely happened without layoffs of top staff and with the promise of replacement programs. But details on Harvard’s new approach have remained scant, and little has been communicated to students and faculty...But the removal of DEI language has coincided with its replacement by language on pluralism, dialogue, and ideological diversity...Other changes were made quietly. An HSPH website that once extolled the “power of diversity” and championed “building a culture of inclusivity” now testifies to the “power of pluralism” and “a culture of mutual respect.”...It remains unclear to what extent the changes represent a surface-level rebranding or a structural overhaul.
Does it though?
Posted by: garrett
Once you accept that the only reason for failure is racism, then standards are just an arcane relic. That's why universities fight so hard to avoid getting rid of DEI.
https://is.gd/lYhw05
Harvard Grad Schools Rebrand Diversity Offices as University Wipes DEI Messaging
So far, the rebranding has largely happened without layoffs of top staff and with the promise of replacement programs. But details on Harvard’s new approach have remained scant, and little has been communicated to students and faculty...But the removal of DEI language has coincided with its replacement by language on pluralism, dialogue, and ideological diversity...Other changes were made quietly. An HSPH website that once extolled the “power of diversity” and championed “building a culture of inclusivity” now testifies to the “power of pluralism” and “a culture of mutual respect.”...It remains unclear to what extent the changes represent a surface-level rebranding or a structural overhaul.
Does it though?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:39 PM (Riz8t)
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Is it Johnny's fault? OH, NOOOOO!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (vd6bO)
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When you're taught from birth there is no such thing as consequences, nor wrong answers, only "your truth" then, yeah, it's not necessarily Johnny's fault.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (vd6bO)
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When you're taught from birth there is no such thing as consequences, nor wrong answers, only "your truth" then, yeah, it's not necessarily Johnny's fault.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (tT6L1)
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44 Propaganda to get H1-Bs in full...
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (tOcjL)
I agree completely. I see equally (if not more) incompetent people from India getting jobs from their cousins in big tech or whatever, while Americans are just left with $150k in debt and their dick in their hand, working at Starbucks and becoming nihilistic because they can't land a good job.
Yes, the colleges are partially to blame. As is K-12 education. And the parents. And the govt being involved in student loans. But ultimately, we need to fix this problem ASAP or that's kind of the end of the civilization / culture.
Companies should not be able to side step hiring all of these American kids by hiring semi-slave labor of either legal or illegal status.
Trust me, I've seen the hiring process this year for the capable kids. MAKE industry hire them 1st before ever thinking about one visa for any American job.
AKA - you want American security and resources for your business. Hire Americans.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 01:35 PM (tOcjL)
I agree completely. I see equally (if not more) incompetent people from India getting jobs from their cousins in big tech or whatever, while Americans are just left with $150k in debt and their dick in their hand, working at Starbucks and becoming nihilistic because they can't land a good job.
Yes, the colleges are partially to blame. As is K-12 education. And the parents. And the govt being involved in student loans. But ultimately, we need to fix this problem ASAP or that's kind of the end of the civilization / culture.
Companies should not be able to side step hiring all of these American kids by hiring semi-slave labor of either legal or illegal status.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (uCjyK)
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When TRUTH becomes a liability -- ALL PEOPLE BECOME THE ENEMY.
Is it a Client List, or List of Clients? is it a man-crab? or a crab-man? The horror, the Horror, the HORROR!
Just as the NO Kings agitators were wiped out by the Iran Strike, so too will these... forWAR'd !!! what could possibly go wrong?
Is it a Client List, or List of Clients? is it a man-crab? or a crab-man? The horror, the Horror, the HORROR!
Just as the NO Kings agitators were wiped out by the Iran Strike, so too will these... forWAR'd !!! what could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (zVn8g)
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I had an interview with P&G for a lab tech position back in the 80s. The interviewer gave me an osmotic pressure problem to solve on the spot. I did not get the job.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (p16cu)
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that UConn chick seemed deeply stupid
well at least she had some modicum of self awareness but damn
should not be in college
well at least she had some modicum of self awareness but damn
should not be in college
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
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On a recent Tech Thread, it was noticed that AI functions best in environments where A) no one has the necessary expertise in a particular field and B) no one cares about the outcome.
So, government work.
There is an argument made, generally by left leaning technocrats, that we don't need everyone to work any more, and therefore the government should hire people that can't really work anywhere else.
And the most immediate problem with this is that when you overstaff government those employees going looking for things to do which generally means impede everyone else's ability to work.
TBH if we sent 50% of government workers home and kept paying them to just count the number of birds that fly over their houses each day we would immediately improve the overall economy...
So, government work.
There is an argument made, generally by left leaning technocrats, that we don't need everyone to work any more, and therefore the government should hire people that can't really work anywhere else.
And the most immediate problem with this is that when you overstaff government those employees going looking for things to do which generally means impede everyone else's ability to work.
TBH if we sent 50% of government workers home and kept paying them to just count the number of birds that fly over their houses each day we would immediately improve the overall economy...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)
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Here's an exercise most modern day grads couldn't pull off.
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (poXs5)
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I know this is anecdotal and my experiences do not define general reality, but every manager and supervisor I have seen, talked to, and read says that its brutal trying to hire modern young people because they have no work ethic, no drive, no ambition, and quit for the dumbest vapid reasons without pattern or notification.
You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
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On top of a lousy ed system, the internet and social media have given younger generations the attention span of a gnat. Sitting and enjoying reading a good novel or history is almost impossible.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 01:41 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Here's an exercise most modern day grads couldn't pull off.
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (poXs5)
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Thank you Doctor! That was the perfect prescription for my afternoon.
Teacher: "Use these four words in a sentence... Detail, deduct, defense, defeat."
Muldoon: "De feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (poXs5)
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Thank you Doctor! That was the perfect prescription for my afternoon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (96KLw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (2GCMq)
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Organizations heavily staffed by women are incompetent and failing. How can that be?
I've been working in the corporate world for a long time now and what my female peers tell me on a regular basis:
1) It is only sexism that stops them from getting promoted to management
2) Working for a woman sucks.
In my own personal experience I've had more good male managers then female, but I've had good female managers as well.
I've been working in the corporate world for a long time now and what my female peers tell me on a regular basis:
1) It is only sexism that stops them from getting promoted to management
2) Working for a woman sucks.
In my own personal experience I've had more good male managers then female, but I've had good female managers as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)
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The future's pretty bleak when you consider there will likely be nobody who can repair or maintain the technology and infrastructure in modern society.
We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on. Almost nobody actually knows how things they use every day work any more.
We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on. Almost nobody actually knows how things they use every day work any more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (dfIr7)
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I consider myself a failure as a husband and a father. But both my kids are grown, paying their own way, no debt, first son's a homeowner at 25, and they both read books for pleasure.
I could maybe give myself a break.
I could maybe give myself a break.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (MX0bI)
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I wonder, how will the Left blame Trump for this? They will blame Trump; the only question is what BS reason(s) they'll use.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (aBgBM)
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Perhaps if we emphasized development of personal virtues like the ones that have been made fun of for the last too-many decades, like Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent (He's a regular Boy Scout!)...perhaps add conscientious and industrious in there? Then you get better students of everything that matters. It ain't just the institutions, but what we demand of them.
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent (He's a regular Boy Scout!)...perhaps add conscientious and industrious in there? Then you get better students of everything that matters. It ain't just the institutions, but what we demand of them.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (vd6bO)
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...osmotic pressure problem...
********
Is that when Marie manipulated Donnie into singing a medley that he didn't want to sing?
********
Is that when Marie manipulated Donnie into singing a medley that he didn't want to sing?
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (poXs5)
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GenZ/forWAR'd the obvious solution?
Since businesses can't use them, and will soon collapse anyway, draft to be re-instituted... sans the trans and all the other deviants, who will be left to rot in their tasteless and primitive worlds....
Since businesses can't use them, and will soon collapse anyway, draft to be re-instituted... sans the trans and all the other deviants, who will be left to rot in their tasteless and primitive worlds....
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (zVn8g)
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"Students" these days learn absolutely nothing, and their brains are fried by social media and AI.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
They were fried by marxist indoctrinators first. And those very "educators" would love to blame AI and social media for their own inability and unwillingness to teach anything beyond perversion, division and agenda. BIRM
Because if you teach someone something, they become a potential danger to the cause. And the cause is all there is.
As adults, they will be utterly useless.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (pMi6S)
They were fried by marxist indoctrinators first. And those very "educators" would love to blame AI and social media for their own inability and unwillingness to teach anything beyond perversion, division and agenda. BIRM
Because if you teach someone something, they become a potential danger to the cause. And the cause is all there is.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (Qr870)
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Then charge up the incentives. Pay lower base salaries, and create more performance-related bonuses (model: waiters' wages vs tips). You want better pay, you've gotta show results.
Also, reinstate kid treatment like punching a clock, and combine it with new wage structures. One wage for a 40-hour week, another wage for less.
Gotta get creative on this. Moaning about our lot and yelling at slack-asses won't fix it.
Then charge up the incentives. Pay lower base salaries, and create more performance-related bonuses (model: waiters' wages vs tips). You want better pay, you've gotta show results.
Also, reinstate kid treatment like punching a clock, and combine it with new wage structures. One wage for a 40-hour week, another wage for less.
Gotta get creative on this. Moaning about our lot and yelling at slack-asses won't fix it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (xp7+v)
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56 Well, I don't know who corporate America is hiring then; i just retired with 27 years of military and law enforcement service and can't get a goddam interview.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
I see that all the time, too.
People who are smart and highly qualified working jobs they are way overqualified for, while the high paying corporate jobs are increasingly full of DEI hires and third world immigrants. Then those DEI hires and third world immigrants take over the HR departments of those companies and the cycle intensifies.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 01:38 PM (xP8uf)
I see that all the time, too.
People who are smart and highly qualified working jobs they are way overqualified for, while the high paying corporate jobs are increasingly full of DEI hires and third world immigrants. Then those DEI hires and third world immigrants take over the HR departments of those companies and the cycle intensifies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)
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Kids just need to get 100% on the Woke Talking Points test, and they'll pass with flying colors. (but no real education)
Posted by: illiniwek at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (vbXSk)
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We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on. Almost nobody actually knows how things they use every day work any more.
This is a side effect of the fact we've become wealthy enough to just throw stuff away.
When I was young I remember fixing mechanical devices around my house, now I either hire someone or buy a new one.
This is a side effect of the fact we've become wealthy enough to just throw stuff away.
When I was young I remember fixing mechanical devices around my house, now I either hire someone or buy a new one.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (t0Rmr)
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>>We're kind of at that point today. We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on.
Or, it was designed to keep anyone but a high paid tech to work on it.
Or, it was designed to keep anyone but a high paid tech to work on it.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (Bi+MU)
Posted by: Gavin Newsome at the Glass House Farm at July 14, 2025 01:44 PM (Riz8t)
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You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Knew a guy way back when who ran a successful chain of stores. He told me he always, when someone was short, would front them the money going into a weekend, knowing full well they wouldn't show up to work the following Monday, thus, giving him grounds to fire the employee. (these were employees he wanted to get rid of and they always obliged) Said it saved him a ton of money in the long run.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Knew a guy way back when who ran a successful chain of stores. He told me he always, when someone was short, would front them the money going into a weekend, knowing full well they wouldn't show up to work the following Monday, thus, giving him grounds to fire the employee. (these were employees he wanted to get rid of and they always obliged) Said it saved him a ton of money in the long run.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:45 PM (tT6L1)
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Is this about me?
Posted by: Person moaning about our lot and yelling at slack-asses at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (bcy1V)
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When I was young I remember fixing mechanical devices around my house, now I either hire someone or buy a new one.
Look around and see how many devices are still purely mechanical. Probably not all that many. Most have embedded electronic controllers at a minimum.
Look around and see how many devices are still purely mechanical. Probably not all that many. Most have embedded electronic controllers at a minimum.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (/y8xj)
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ok so when I graduated (from a private catholic HS!) about half of us went to college, that's all. and pretty much everyone was smart, at least smart-ish.
many got married, some worked in family business, some went to professional schools (it was a girls' school). but by no means was it expected that we all would go to college, not that it wasn't an option, but it wasn't PUSHED for 100 percent of college graduates like now.
and I think that percentage (50%) is too high. the first video had it right. it's for a) the very smart and b) the very studious
college is meaningless now, and pretty useless too, just because EVERYONE goes, no matter how much they try to do everything right they will need to cull down to appropriate college students or it won't work!
many got married, some worked in family business, some went to professional schools (it was a girls' school). but by no means was it expected that we all would go to college, not that it wasn't an option, but it wasn't PUSHED for 100 percent of college graduates like now.
and I think that percentage (50%) is too high. the first video had it right. it's for a) the very smart and b) the very studious
college is meaningless now, and pretty useless too, just because EVERYONE goes, no matter how much they try to do everything right they will need to cull down to appropriate college students or it won't work!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
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should not be in college
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
Where should she be
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)
Where should she be
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (Qr870)
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anyone who attempts to instruct you to wear a festive little hat the right way is a racist who doesn't understand.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (u5DUI)
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On top of a lousy ed system, the internet and social media have given younger generations the attention span of a gnat. Sitting and enjoying reading a good novel or history is almost impossible.
I haven't seen an official term or word for it, but this is functional illiteracy. If you can make out signs and small notes, but are unable to read anything deeper or longer there's not much different between that and illiteracy.
I mean, I don't speak Spanish but I can work out what a sign says most of the time.
I haven't seen an official term or word for it, but this is functional illiteracy. If you can make out signs and small notes, but are unable to read anything deeper or longer there's not much different between that and illiteracy.
I mean, I don't speak Spanish but I can work out what a sign says most of the time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (dfIr7)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
Do that many young people actually quit fairly quickly?
Do that many young people actually quit fairly quickly?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (2GCMq)
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This entire article, ok I didn't read but the first part but stil, IS SO TRIGGERING TO ME. I can't even. I'm going go lie down now...
Posted by: Hampster Girl at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (PiwSw)
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MeToo Instructor: "Can anyone give me a sentence using 'harassment'?"
Employee: "I miss this girl I was dating. Her ass meant a lot to me."
Employee: "I miss this girl I was dating. Her ass meant a lot to me."
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:47 PM (iFTx/)
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"It's changed expectations about what's worthy of attention," Daniel Willingham, a psychologist at UVA, told me. "Being bored has become unnatural."
I have said this same basic thing for at least two decades now: Kids need to learn about boredom, and how to handle it When I was a kid:
- I had to learn my my addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by repetition.
- I had long summers filled with... nothing. Nothing but what my friends and I could come up with to entertain ourselves.
- I had cartoons on Saturday morning and for an hour right after school (and a few specials during Christmas).
- I read the paper every day.
- I had chores to do.
Learning how to deal with the dull parts of life helps you appreciate the truly fun parts a helluva lot more. It also teaches you patience and discipline.
I also wonder how much all the psychological drugs they are prescribing kids and teenagers has to do with this.
I have said this same basic thing for at least two decades now: Kids need to learn about boredom, and how to handle it When I was a kid:
- I had to learn my my addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by repetition.
- I had long summers filled with... nothing. Nothing but what my friends and I could come up with to entertain ourselves.
- I had cartoons on Saturday morning and for an hour right after school (and a few specials during Christmas).
- I read the paper every day.
- I had chores to do.
Learning how to deal with the dull parts of life helps you appreciate the truly fun parts a helluva lot more. It also teaches you patience and discipline.
I also wonder how much all the psychological drugs they are prescribing kids and teenagers has to do with this.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (wtvvX)
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College really should just be for people serious about pursuing a small number of careers that really do need extra training.
Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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Look around and see how many devices are still purely mechanical. Probably not all that many. Most have embedded electronic controllers at a minimum.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (/y8xj)
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But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (/y8xj)
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But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: OnlyFans at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (bcy1V)
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What needs to happen is the repeal of Duke Power vs Griggs. Let companies test their own candidates. They at least have a focused objective target they are looking for. Much fairer than Affirmative Action carve outs.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (W3T6M)
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Caught a meme this morning about ...
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (RHGPo)
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college is meaningless now, and pretty useless too, just because EVERYONE goes, no matter how much they try to do everything right they will need to cull down to appropriate college students or it won't work!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
In my social circle, pretty much everyone has at least one advanced degree.
I'm not hanging out with particularly smart people.
This push to get more and more degrees is not healthy for a society either. "You'll stand out if you get an MBA. You'll have a much better chance at getting a promotion!" 2 years of night school and tens of thousands of dollars later, you're still in the same job with a worthless piece of paper that doesn't prove anything in 2025. Maybe in 1985 it meant something, but now it's just an "oh, that's interesting" conversation piece.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)
In my social circle, pretty much everyone has at least one advanced degree.
I'm not hanging out with particularly smart people.
This push to get more and more degrees is not healthy for a society either. "You'll stand out if you get an MBA. You'll have a much better chance at getting a promotion!" 2 years of night school and tens of thousands of dollars later, you're still in the same job with a worthless piece of paper that doesn't prove anything in 2025. Maybe in 1985 it meant something, but now it's just an "oh, that's interesting" conversation piece.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The collapse of American education is actually the biggest story of the modern era.
Education became about the 'educators' rather than the students. Governments decided that youths had to spend more years in schools, theoretically gaining more knowledge, but for what? So that everyone could become a doctor or engineer? So the kids zone out, more non-scholastic crap fills the day, grades are inflated because the teachers don't want to admit that your tax dollars are being pissed away on daycare and on and on and on.
Meanwhile, the kids are told that they're exceptional, that the only reason they're not brazilianaires yet is because of an -ism... unless you're a heterosexual, white, male in which case - die already.
Education became about the 'educators' rather than the students. Governments decided that youths had to spend more years in schools, theoretically gaining more knowledge, but for what? So that everyone could become a doctor or engineer? So the kids zone out, more non-scholastic crap fills the day, grades are inflated because the teachers don't want to admit that your tax dollars are being pissed away on daycare and on and on and on.
Meanwhile, the kids are told that they're exceptional, that the only reason they're not brazilianaires yet is because of an -ism... unless you're a heterosexual, white, male in which case - die already.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
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This is a side effect of the fact we've become wealthy enough to just throw stuff away.
That does play a part, but I used to be able to fix electronic equipment because I could work on the wiring and solder things. Now the circuitry requires a microscope to even see, and the wires are finer than mouse pubes.
That does play a part, but I used to be able to fix electronic equipment because I could work on the wiring and solder things. Now the circuitry requires a microscope to even see, and the wires are finer than mouse pubes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (dfIr7)
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Those two facts alone put me far, far in front of any competition for my position and for promotions, should I seek them.
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Yours is the exception.
I'm hearing a lot about how the youngers are firing GenX, for example, merely because they are a bigger labor expense and they don't "vibe."
As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation.
There is also a lot of ruin in a corporation.
They'll ruin you and the corporation before they give up their ideology.
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Yours is the exception.
I'm hearing a lot about how the youngers are firing GenX, for example, merely because they are a bigger labor expense and they don't "vibe."
As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation.
There is also a lot of ruin in a corporation.
They'll ruin you and the corporation before they give up their ideology.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (JThEY)
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Ok, since our educational systems have been failing for years, let's let our country fall behind because we can't find any qualified people.
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)
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Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (RHGPo)
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I remember reading an article years ago which mentioned college degrees had become a 5 year process, because the first year was spent on remedial English, math, etc.
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (RHGPo)
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I remember reading an article years ago which mentioned college degrees had become a 5 year process, because the first year was spent on remedial English, math, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (tT6L1)
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>>- I had cartoons on Saturday morning and for an hour right after school (and a few specials during Christmas).
For every 3 hours of reading we did as kids, we got to watch 30 minutes of TV (Read: Muppet Show!).
For every 3 hours of reading we did as kids, we got to watch 30 minutes of TV (Read: Muppet Show!).
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (Bi+MU)
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109 Meanwhile, the kids are told that they're exceptional, that the only reason they're not brazilianaires yet is because of an -ism... unless you're a heterosexual, white, male in which case - die already.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
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Also, buy Ryan Trahan's candy as he becomes rich doing YouTube videos.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)
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Also, buy Ryan Trahan's candy as he becomes rich doing YouTube videos.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Here's a recent example of how complex this gets...
My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
But, some of those circuit boards aren't all that expensive and fairly easy to replace. I had a small refrigerator at work the board went out on. Found the replacement, pulled the old one, soldered in the new and went on my way.
Here's a recent example of how complex this gets...
My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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I grew up in the 80s and it turns out 3/4 of my teachers were marxist faggots. What is that number now? Of course kids aren't "learning". It has nothing to do with parenting or social media. They are given no reason to learn. They are taught merely to parrot the platitudes of godlessness.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (Qr870)
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People who are writing movies now have never read books , I'm sure of it.
Not trying to make this a movie thread just saying...that shittiness translates to everything.
Not trying to make this a movie thread just saying...that shittiness translates to everything.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (fV+MH)
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Do that many young people actually quit fairly quickly?
I don't know, all I can say is what I have been told by managers and read by them online. And the worst part is that so many of the people looking for work look like Juggalos that they have no choice. Yes, that girl with the face tats and purple hair is the hostess now because you had nobody else to take the job.
I don't know, all I can say is what I have been told by managers and read by them online. And the worst part is that so many of the people looking for work look like Juggalos that they have no choice. Yes, that girl with the face tats and purple hair is the hostess now because you had nobody else to take the job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (dfIr7)
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Everyone infected with woke is also infected by the comorbidity of believing that all criticism/direction from your boss is a racial or sexual aggression, and that you're perfect the way you are, and that anyone who attempts to instruct you to do the job the right way is a racist who doesn't understand your Different Ways of Knowing.
There is only three ways to solve any problem.
1. The right way.
2. The wrong way.
And
3. The person who signs your paycheck's way.
There is only three ways to solve any problem.
1. The right way.
2. The wrong way.
And
3. The person who signs your paycheck's way.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: Don't want to know at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (bcy1V)
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>>That does play a part, but I used to be able to fix electronic equipment because I could work on the wiring and solder things. Now the circuitry requires a microscope to even see, and the wires are finer than mouse pubes.
Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (Bi+MU)
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Sorry, but I'm calling BIGGUS BULLSHITTUS on that. She seems reasonably articulate and intelligent in the video, and she's from Puerto Rico where English is an official language. I'll bet money this is an op or plea for attention.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
OTOH, she's a brown woman so if she just blew off her classes she'd still get promoted.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
OTOH, she's a brown woman so if she just blew off her classes she'd still get promoted.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (ExV1e)
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Holy smokes, my kids read several books a semester starting in 5th grade. What a bunch of idiots. That being said, when my oldest went to public high school, he said the majority of the class couldnt read and comprehend a paragraph. He said when they had to read a 150 page book for their final, most kids just got chatgpt to summarize and analyze it.
Posted by: mishdog at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (e28+i)
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They are taught merely to parrot the platitudes of godlessness.
Platitudes of Godlessness would be an excellent name for a band playing at Molochfest 2025.
Platitudes of Godlessness would be an excellent name for a band playing at Molochfest 2025.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (Riz8t)
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I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (lIio7)
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I VASTLY prefer books to social media.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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The "You're perfect the way you are!" movement that's been around since I was a child (at least) is one of the worst things you can tell a person.
It's one thing to tell someone not to hate themselves. That's laudable, as every person has value.
It's quite another to suggest there is no room for improvement. That's dangerous and breeds the mentioned entitlement.
"I just want a woman who loves me for who I am!"
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
(Similar advice to the women who say the same thing.)
It's one thing to tell someone not to hate themselves. That's laudable, as every person has value.
It's quite another to suggest there is no room for improvement. That's dangerous and breeds the mentioned entitlement.
"I just want a woman who loves me for who I am!"
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
(Similar advice to the women who say the same thing.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (N1DT3)
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DEI will not go away until all women are fired from HR.
Having a man like Mr. Sheldrake in charge of Personnel was no picnic, it turned out. Miss Kubelik nearly died in my apartment as a result of his philandering.
Having a man like Mr. Sheldrake in charge of Personnel was no picnic, it turned out. Miss Kubelik nearly died in my apartment as a result of his philandering.
Posted by: C.C. Baxter, Consolidated Life, 19th floor, Ordinary Policy Dept., Premium Accounting at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (wVcYX)
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126 I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (lIio7)
congrats man
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (lIio7)
congrats man
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Thanks, Mark!
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (lIio7)
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People who are writing movies now have never read books , I'm sure of it.
Converting books into movies was an old easy standby for Hollywood.
I think while the Hollywood types do occasionally read books still, they only read a narrow subset of woke, gay crap, so there are many, many good books that could easily become good movies that just aren't going to be made by Hollywood
Converting books into movies was an old easy standby for Hollywood.
I think while the Hollywood types do occasionally read books still, they only read a narrow subset of woke, gay crap, so there are many, many good books that could easily become good movies that just aren't going to be made by Hollywood
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (t0Rmr)
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Ok, since our educational systems have been failing for years, let's let our country fall behind because we can't find any qualified people.
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)
There are 300+ million people living in this country legally right now.
I don't think the problem is a sheer lack of brainpower. And if it is, let's just wrap it up and call it a day at this point.
It requires an IQ of like 105 to do entry level coding at big tech. They're hiring foreigners with even more dubious educational backgrounds and a weak grasp on the english language to do those jobs. I'm pretty sure they can find qualified people at pretty much every high school or college in America.
But sure, let's just outsource our blue collar jobs to illegals from central america and our white collar jobs to immigrants from India and China. And the Americans can just work in service industry jobs like being baristas.
That sounds like a viable solution to keeping an economy and country running.
Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
Let's just send all our remaining business overseas.
Yay America!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)
There are 300+ million people living in this country legally right now.
I don't think the problem is a sheer lack of brainpower. And if it is, let's just wrap it up and call it a day at this point.
It requires an IQ of like 105 to do entry level coding at big tech. They're hiring foreigners with even more dubious educational backgrounds and a weak grasp on the english language to do those jobs. I'm pretty sure they can find qualified people at pretty much every high school or college in America.
But sure, let's just outsource our blue collar jobs to illegals from central america and our white collar jobs to immigrants from India and China. And the Americans can just work in service industry jobs like being baristas.
That sounds like a viable solution to keeping an economy and country running.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (uCjyK)
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The computer company I was hired by in Michigan had aptitude tests. The HR guy went on and on about how it would the test would determine how well you would be as a programmer.
The test was 40 questions. The questions were similar to those on "The 1% Club."
It was me and a room full of Indians. A very pretty black lady came back and said I was the first person they ever had that scored perfect.
Go white guy!
The test was 40 questions. The questions were similar to those on "The 1% Club."
It was me and a room full of Indians. A very pretty black lady came back and said I was the first person they ever had that scored perfect.
Go white guy!
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 10.11 at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (jvJvP)
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My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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As I said, some. And, of course, there is no after market part for your stove, either. Been there and it is frustrating as all get out.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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As I said, some. And, of course, there is no after market part for your stove, either. Been there and it is frustrating as all get out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:53 PM (tT6L1)
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127 I VASTLY prefer books to social media.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Reminds me of a bit from The Squid and the Whale.
Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Reminds me of a bit from The Squid and the Whale.
Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
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You're not going to learn by copy and pasting from ChatGPT.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (uCjyK)
Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
But they all made it through college and law school using LLM's and Quimbee and other cheating methods, so here we are.
It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM (uCjyK)
Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
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Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1
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omg don't tell me we're having this argument again. How I miss Jay Guevara, the chemistry professor who defended his well-rounded education including his studies of the humanities.
This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
The fact that a lot of humanities departments have been corrupted is a separate matter.
Reading recommendation: The Best Minds, by Jonathan Rosen.
Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1
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omg don't tell me we're having this argument again. How I miss Jay Guevara, the chemistry professor who defended his well-rounded education including his studies of the humanities.
This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
The fact that a lot of humanities departments have been corrupted is a separate matter.
Reading recommendation: The Best Minds, by Jonathan Rosen.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (xp7+v)
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127 I VASTLY prefer books to social media.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
*fistbump*
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
*fistbump*
Posted by: The Unofficial AoSHQ Bleak House Fan Club at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (PiwSw)
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Pray tell, what books are kids being asked to read...?
Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (Qr870)
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Hare. Hunter. Field.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (63Dwl)
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Who "fixes" smart phones anymore? If it stops working, in some manner, shape or form does it really get "repaired?" Or is your SIM card just inserted into a cloned copy of your old phone?
7 or 8 years ago my wife dropped her cell phone and the screen cracked. It still (sort of) worked, but you could only access certain apps that weren't on the broken part of the screen. The solution, as I alluded to above. New, cloned phone. (Under warranty, but I can imagine what that would cost if not.)
That's only one example of this "throw away" society we're in. What do we do when you can't throw it away because it's the only one you've got and there ain't no more of... whatever?
The education issues and work ethics are a whole different issue, but I think one dovetails into the other.
7 or 8 years ago my wife dropped her cell phone and the screen cracked. It still (sort of) worked, but you could only access certain apps that weren't on the broken part of the screen. The solution, as I alluded to above. New, cloned phone. (Under warranty, but I can imagine what that would cost if not.)
That's only one example of this "throw away" society we're in. What do we do when you can't throw it away because it's the only one you've got and there ain't no more of... whatever?
The education issues and work ethics are a whole different issue, but I think one dovetails into the other.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Q4IgG)
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Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
Posted by: GuyFromMetropolitan at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (wBaIH)
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I was at a friend's house the other day. He's a big Green Bay Packers fan so I didn't think much of it when he walked over to the window and yelled, "Green goes up!!" He did it again about every five minutes and I finally asked, "Hey, what's with yelling 'Green goes up'? "
He said, "Oh, I've got a college grad laying sod in the back yard."
He said, "Oh, I've got a college grad laying sod in the back yard."
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (poXs5)
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I had a fellow employee that was moving from Boston to Philadelphia, so he was looking for a house. Somebody suggested that he join the cocktail circuit and talk to people from the various areas around Philadelphia.
The first thing he found out ... every child on the "Main Line" of Philadelphia (the western suburbs along the train line) were "gifted". The parents would tell him so. I even ran into a old high school buddy then living on the "Mainline" who told me the same.
He figured his kids were smart but not "gifted" so he got a house in the far western suburb of West Chester.
The first thing he found out ... every child on the "Main Line" of Philadelphia (the western suburbs along the train line) were "gifted". The parents would tell him so. I even ran into a old high school buddy then living on the "Mainline" who told me the same.
He figured his kids were smart but not "gifted" so he got a house in the far western suburb of West Chester.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (RHGPo)
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Jesse Eisenberg dismisses A Tale of Two Cities as "minor Dickens", but it's obvious from the conversation that he'd never read A Tale of Two Cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
Which would have been a primary source
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
Which would have been a primary source
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Qr870)
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Harry Paratestes
A silo model to shield a new corporation may work. Be very careful who you let in the door, and have a fast off-ramp.
How does Singapore do it?
A silo model to shield a new corporation may work. Be very careful who you let in the door, and have a fast off-ramp.
How does Singapore do it?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (u82oZ)
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I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
Posted by: GuyFromMetropolitan at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
I prefer to read the literary criticism instead.
Posted by: GuyFromMetropolitan at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Honestly, I would tell any hungry reader to never read Ethan Frome. Just don't do it.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (W3T6M)
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[]"I just want a woman who loves me for who I am!"
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
Yeah. This. Yes, many modern young women are a disaster but look into the mirror young men. You need to be a better man if you want a better woman.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Who you are is a slob. You don't want the kind of woman who would love a slob. Clean yourself up, lift some weights, LOSE some weight and present a better version of yourself.
Yeah. This. Yes, many modern young women are a disaster but look into the mirror young men. You need to be a better man if you want a better woman.
By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (dfIr7)
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>>My stove has a push button set of controls. The board that controls this partially died so I can't hit the 1/4/7 buttons. I could replace it...but the company doesn't make that board any more.
My Suburban blew a heater Hose this weekend while I was driving down the road.
I could not repair it because someone decided that Hose Clamps are obsolete and designed a 'Quick Fitting' that can not be removed without a proprietary tool.
The other end of the same fucking hose has a clamp on it. But...you aren't fixing it on the side of the road, anymore.
Because Fuck You.
My Suburban blew a heater Hose this weekend while I was driving down the road.
I could not repair it because someone decided that Hose Clamps are obsolete and designed a 'Quick Fitting' that can not be removed without a proprietary tool.
The other end of the same fucking hose has a clamp on it. But...you aren't fixing it on the side of the road, anymore.
Because Fuck You.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Bi+MU)
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Wasn't there a fairly recent thread about some states bringing back apprenticeships?
Indiana or Iowa, can't recall.
Indiana or Iowa, can't recall.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Ch4Qk)
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Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Posted by: Chester The Molester at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (bcy1V)
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I got my BS in '79.
Starting college, I took the CLEP tests. If those were truly indicative of 1st year college courses, it was worthless even then.
Didn't learn squat until the 300 and 400 level courses... all applied to my degree.
Starting college, I took the CLEP tests. If those were truly indicative of 1st year college courses, it was worthless even then.
Didn't learn squat until the 300 and 400 level courses... all applied to my degree.
Posted by: MkY at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (cPGH3)
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Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
Oh, I know. Trust me, I know.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
Oh, I know. Trust me, I know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (uCjyK)
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the quality of the books assigned in US schools of late is a whole other topic
atrocious
thankfully we supplemented with REAL books at home
atrocious
thankfully we supplemented with REAL books at home
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Real Mike Rowe
@mikeroweworks
My first two words on this particular Sunday morning were "Hallelujah!” followed by, “Amen!” ...
[Pull Quote:] If you haven’t already heard, a massive challenge is upon us. With regard to artificial intelligence and the energy we need to feed it, America will either change its current direction, or get left far, far behind. I know this because I run a modest foundation that has been arguing for decades that the portion of our workforce most often described as “the skilled trades,” will become the most essential component of our economy, our independence, and our collective future.
https://is.gd/yeFuQ6
The Real Mike Rowe
@mikeroweworks
My first two words on this particular Sunday morning were "Hallelujah!” followed by, “Amen!” ...
[Pull Quote:] If you haven’t already heard, a massive challenge is upon us. With regard to artificial intelligence and the energy we need to feed it, America will either change its current direction, or get left far, far behind. I know this because I run a modest foundation that has been arguing for decades that the portion of our workforce most often described as “the skilled trades,” will become the most essential component of our economy, our independence, and our collective future.
https://is.gd/yeFuQ6
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (qwZT2)
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I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Nice work!
I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Nice work!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (xp7+v)
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One thing I can say about the Moron Horde:
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (7fElN)
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Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Who "fixes" smart phones anymore? If it stops working, in some manner, shape or form does it really get "repaired?" Or is your SIM card just inserted into a cloned copy of your old phone?
You cant really fix a phone but you can swap out components to make it work right again, which is a sort of repair.
You cant really fix a phone but you can swap out components to make it work right again, which is a sort of repair.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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Man at least in our day we went to class and had AI take notes for us while we physically scrolled Tik Tok.
These kids today just have their robot assistants remotely log in to classes and summarize everything while beaming directly into their brains without leaving bed. Ridiculous
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These kids today just have their robot assistants remotely log in to classes and summarize everything while beaming directly into their brains without leaving bed. Ridiculous
.
Posted by: Zoomers in 20 years at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (A1Mmr)
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Repair Clinic Dot Com
Posted by: The truth is out there at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (bcy1V)
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"We cannot repair anything any more because its become too complex or microscopic that it is beyond even a very skilled amateur to work on."
Well the cellphone industry is what drove the technology to make things smaller and near disposable. Most of the real costs associated with a lot electronic goods these days is in software.
The cell phone is/was the pretty much the driver of the speed of the digital revolution.
Well the cellphone industry is what drove the technology to make things smaller and near disposable. Most of the real costs associated with a lot electronic goods these days is in software.
The cell phone is/was the pretty much the driver of the speed of the digital revolution.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (QB+5g)
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> Who "fixes" smart phones anymore? If it stops working, in some manner, shape or form does it really get "repaired?" Or is your SIM card just inserted into a cloned copy of your old phone?
I've bought iFixit kits for both phones and tablets. One could argue I didn't really "fix" anything, I just changed out a couple of modules. Things like batteries, cameras, and screens.
I've bought iFixit kits for both phones and tablets. One could argue I didn't really "fix" anything, I just changed out a couple of modules. Things like batteries, cameras, and screens.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (lIio7)
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161 Would it surprise you to know that I own that movie?
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Whit Stillman trilogy from Criterion, including Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco.
it would not! it's an amazing film!
love it so
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Whit Stillman trilogy from Criterion, including Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)
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The other end of the same fucking hose has a clamp on it. But...you aren't fixing it on the side of the road, anymore./i]
That's intentional. They want you going to the dealer's official Car Company™ garage, not doing it yourself in the driveway, teaching your kid.
That's intentional. They want you going to the dealer's official Car Company™ garage, not doing it yourself in the driveway, teaching your kid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (dfIr7)
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The solution, as I alluded to above. New, cloned phone. (Under warranty, but I can imagine what that would cost if not.)
Phone screens can be replaced and it's not terribly expensive compared to a new phone but it's still not a DYI job for most of us. You have to take it to that Indian dude at the mall kiosk.
Phone screens can be replaced and it's not terribly expensive compared to a new phone but it's still not a DYI job for most of us. You have to take it to that Indian dude at the mall kiosk.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (/y8xj)
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By the way, reading Bleak House currently and, unsurprisingly perhaps, it's really good.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, the title was one reason it didn't make the cut earlier.
It's really good, and is rather stern with the English Legal system too.
Despite the name its one of the least depressing of his books too LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:56 PM (dfIr7)
Yes, the title was one reason it didn't make the cut earlier.
It's really good, and is rather stern with the English Legal system too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (xcxpd)
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I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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163 A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Blonde Morticia
Or anything by Freeman Dyson. He walked the walk. Even got the Templeton Prize, which was amazing.
Or anything by Freeman Dyson. He walked the walk. Even got the Templeton Prize, which was amazing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (u82oZ)
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"What da fuck is jubilant my feet?"
University sophomore trying to understand lyrics to "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".
University sophomore trying to understand lyrics to "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (gm9Sb)
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This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
I guess I should have been clearer here.
College should exist to produce chemists, or doctors, or nuclear physicists etc. It should not get into things like humanities
Because that stuff SHOULD be taught at the HS level. In detail. As part of a well rounded education.
College is way, way too expensive to spend the time there teaching things not appropriate to whatever degree you are after.
This conservative disdain for "book-larnin'" is stupid and misguided. The same people who rhyme "arts" with "farts" are the ones who complain that movies are just stupid cartoons anymore and music is a bunch of noise.
I guess I should have been clearer here.
College should exist to produce chemists, or doctors, or nuclear physicists etc. It should not get into things like humanities
Because that stuff SHOULD be taught at the HS level. In detail. As part of a well rounded education.
College is way, way too expensive to spend the time there teaching things not appropriate to whatever degree you are after.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)
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163 A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
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Yes. But most of Dickens' is a slog. He was paid by the number of words he wrote. The stories were intended to be listened to, not read.
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Yes. But most of Dickens' is a slog. He was paid by the number of words he wrote. The stories were intended to be listened to, not read.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (W3T6M)
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This, too, 100%. Companies want the benefits of America while paying the wages of the 3rd world to slaves who can't leave them. We need a new slogan. American First And Always for American Companies.
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If your CEO has an MBA, you are just a big (and growing) number on the expense side of the ledger.
And expense they need to control.
You are never a number on the asset side.
An asset they need to retain.
I, by myself, generated as much revenue last month as an entire team.
I also received a piddling ass 5% "raise" this year.
It's why I don't feel bad being a "time thief" posting here.
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If your CEO has an MBA, you are just a big (and growing) number on the expense side of the ledger.
And expense they need to control.
You are never a number on the asset side.
An asset they need to retain.
I, by myself, generated as much revenue last month as an entire team.
I also received a piddling ass 5% "raise" this year.
It's why I don't feel bad being a "time thief" posting here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (JThEY)
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172 I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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The Whit Stillman trilogy from Criterion, including Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco.
I have it as well! Classics
but around xmas they show Metropolitan at various theaters, including BMFI by me, and it's a must-do for the holiday season
I have it as well! Classics
but around xmas they show Metropolitan at various theaters, including BMFI by me, and it's a must-do for the holiday season
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Because we wouldn't DARE temporarily hire qualified foreigners to fill the gap because that would be unpatriotic or something.
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We've been "temporarily" doing it for like 40 years.
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We've been "temporarily" doing it for like 40 years.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (zLwRl)
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106 Caught a meme this morning about ...
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD
It was not uncommon for upper class children in 17th and 18th century England to master Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Middle English by the time they were early teens. Seriously. You were expected to read the Classics, the Old Testament and Chaucer in the orginals in your teens. When you went to Oxford or Cambridge, many classes were taught in Latin.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Going from teaching Greek and Latin in high school ..
to teaching remedial English in college
Posted by: SMOD
It was not uncommon for upper class children in 17th and 18th century England to master Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Middle English by the time they were early teens. Seriously. You were expected to read the Classics, the Old Testament and Chaucer in the orginals in your teens. When you went to Oxford or Cambridge, many classes were taught in Latin.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (pMi6S)
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Professor Squirrel told me there was not a single copy of anything Freeman Dyson wrote in his entire University system. Amazingly sad.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (u82oZ)
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Also I strongly believe the classroom model is outdated and destructive - need a better model, based on older values.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (Ch4Qk)
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A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
Yeah, I find most of Dickens' work to be. He got paid by the word, and it shows. Plus, books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Yeah, I find most of Dickens' work to be. He got paid by the word, and it shows. Plus, books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (dfIr7)
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126 I always seem to miss the GAINZZ thread, so I'm just going to brag here. I got a new squat PR on Saturday. 370lbs.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Congrats! That's awesome. Just got back in the gym recently here - slow 'n steady phase.
Just under two years ago when I started, I was squatting 185lbs.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Congrats! That's awesome. Just got back in the gym recently here - slow 'n steady phase.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (2bFN5)
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I just never got what was so damn special about the book, "The Catcher In The Rye"
I liked books like "The Loved One" by Evelyn Waugh and "The Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison.
I liked books like "The Loved One" by Evelyn Waugh and "The Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (RHGPo)
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it is not the schools its the parents.
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (3GGcJ)
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Good job, bonhomme!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)
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FYI, I just learned about a program building new Catholic High Schools. It's an initiative of the Society of Gilbert Keith Chesterton (a Catholic non-profit apostolate) called the Chesterton Schools Network, and it looks like they are trying to re-establish the classic Catholic education, inspired by G. K. Chesterton.
https://chestertonschoolsnetwork.org/
I pray they succeed.
https://chestertonschoolsnetwork.org/
I pray they succeed.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (wtvvX)
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173 163 A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
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it is not the schools its the parents.
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (3GGcJ)
Because schools aren't there to teach subjects anymore they are there to teach leftardism. They want people dumb and it's working.
how do you have somebody that graduated hs and is not literate without shitty parents?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (3GGcJ)
Because schools aren't there to teach subjects anymore they are there to teach leftardism. They want people dumb and it's working.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (Qr870)
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Those universities take them for the $; make the caring teachers and professors deal with it until they go mad or quit, and allow many of those students to slip into those areas of unique academia & sports where - if they don't stay within those wacky parameters - there will be no other jobs they'll ever handle. (Onto selective therapy and self-care!)
It's been going on since well before C19. "Hope & Change"
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>The Daily Pennsylvanian, ‘Kissing the Trump ring’: Penn faculty condemn University's Title IX settlement, 8 hours ago
It's been going on since well before C19. "Hope & Change"
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>The Daily Pennsylvanian, ‘Kissing the Trump ring’: Penn faculty condemn University's Title IX settlement, 8 hours ago
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (NFX2v)
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Frasier Crane's updating the story of A Tale of Two Cities for the Cheers crowd is about the best we can hope for. "As he climbed aboard the attack helicopter he said "it's a far far....""
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (Ry3Y5)
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Let's "temporarily" tax income because we want government to do a little more than it does, too. Let's let it "temporarily" borrow money, too, so we don't have to pay too much.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (zLwRl)
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Read a book? Pffft.
The only reason to go to college is to find new people to stick things in your butt!
Read a book? Pffft.
The only reason to go to college is to find new people to stick things in your butt!
Posted by: Peter Bootygig at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (FinQB)
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Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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AI in medicine should significantly improve diagnostics. We're on the brink, bay-bay, and we've got to be careful with this wild new capability.
Now imagine it's not a lawyer. It's your doctor. Or the person who designed the plane you have to fly in, or the bridge you have to drive over.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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AI in medicine should significantly improve diagnostics. We're on the brink, bay-bay, and we've got to be careful with this wild new capability.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (xp7+v)
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If your CEO has an MBA, you are just a big (and growing) number on the expense side of the ledger.
And expense they need to control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (JThEY)
It's not really an MBA thing. It's an efficiency thing. And efficiency is usually good! However, it has been massively corrupted by big investment firms on wall street, by our legal system, and by how CEO's are hired.
In other words, you get a bunch of people whose only goal is showing short term profit without regards to the larger picture, because their personal incentives don't align with the long term incentives of the company.
It's one of those leftist tropes about "late stage capitalism" that is somewhat true. And I don't know if it's fixable. I do know that early stage socialism will absolutely NOT be an improvement.
And expense they need to control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (JThEY)
It's not really an MBA thing. It's an efficiency thing. And efficiency is usually good! However, it has been massively corrupted by big investment firms on wall street, by our legal system, and by how CEO's are hired.
In other words, you get a bunch of people whose only goal is showing short term profit without regards to the larger picture, because their personal incentives don't align with the long term incentives of the company.
It's one of those leftist tropes about "late stage capitalism" that is somewhat true. And I don't know if it's fixable. I do know that early stage socialism will absolutely NOT be an improvement.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (uCjyK)
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31 I’ve noticed a lot of them seem to be allergic to punctuality as well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Punctuality is a tool of oppression by cis-het white patriarchal colonizers!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Punctuality is a tool of oppression by cis-het white patriarchal colonizers!!!
Posted by: Young Soy Whites at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (JCZqz)
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"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
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You'll hire the most clean and sane looking kid you can to fill a role, and they do the minimum work, spend as much time slacking and on the phone as they can get away with, and suddenly after a couple days just don't show up because they weren't feeling it any more or decided they wanted to play Call of Duty that day, or just decided they didn't want to be a "wage slave."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
Follow your dream...
Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life...
You only live once...
Then they decide to become an 'influencer' or OF 'model'.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (dfIr7)
Follow your dream...
Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life...
You only live once...
Then they decide to become an 'influencer' or OF 'model'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (ExV1e)
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Universities were complicit in blowing up student debt beyond all reason.
Now they're upset they're being called to account?
Cry me a river.
Now they're upset they're being called to account?
Cry me a river.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (tT6L1)
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I read it and was shocked to learn that the most famous lines "It is a far, far better thing" are almost the final words of the book. Like...there may be one sentence after it.
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
Free Bird !
I knew it was coming. But it kept not coming. I was confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
Free Bird !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (NtVYv)
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An Ivy League prof I know hired some of his post-grad students to put up some siding on his house. We were outside watching the progress of the work. One of the guys would reach into his nail pouch, pull out a nail and drive it in. But the next nail he tossed in the trash bin. This went on for a while until my friend hollered, "Hey, why are you throwing out half the nails?" The kid said, "The points are on the wrong end!"
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (poXs5)
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I volunteered at a literacy center. I gave the people that came to it credit because they realized they had missed out on something and were trying to address it.
For the ones that graduated with an HS diploma is was always a similiar story - a little cheating and you were good because no one cared or really even noticed that he/she couldn't read.
It was enough to make one very, very cynical about just how many of those self-proclaimed dedicated teachers are...
For the ones that graduated with an HS diploma is was always a similiar story - a little cheating and you were good because no one cared or really even noticed that he/she couldn't read.
It was enough to make one very, very cynical about just how many of those self-proclaimed dedicated teachers are...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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it is something of an endorsement of the girls creativity and determination that she found some way to get her homework done without reading, everyboy should have the ability to read but she found an impressive work around
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:04 PM (Ji1au)
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https://chestertonschoolsnetwork.org/
oh this is a wonderful idea!
also the DP has always sucked and been a marxist rag
oh this is a wonderful idea!
also the DP has always sucked and been a marxist rag
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Pv3Rg)
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My take:
University ought not simply teach. It must advance the body of knowledge in material ways.
Otherwise it's a high school.
University ought not simply teach. It must advance the body of knowledge in material ways.
Otherwise it's a high school.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (PzXaK)
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Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Its one of the worst failures of a concept I've ever seen on film. It could have been great, it had some great ideas, but the execution was absolutely terrible. I really liked Frankenstein but having his skull flopping around every movement was incredibly distracting and annoying for example.
That ending sequence of people leaping around on wires having a battle was the worst action scene I have ever witnessed. It was everything wrong with early CGI fest stuff.
Its one of the worst failures of a concept I've ever seen on film. It could have been great, it had some great ideas, but the execution was absolutely terrible. I really liked Frankenstein but having his skull flopping around every movement was incredibly distracting and annoying for example.
That ending sequence of people leaping around on wires having a battle was the worst action scene I have ever witnessed. It was everything wrong with early CGI fest stuff.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (dfIr7)
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182 Winston Churchill wrote that every young man should learn English, Latin as a matter of course, and Greek as a treat.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (gm9Sb)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
I bet when he left the theater that first time he said, "I'll be back".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
I bet when he left the theater that first time he said, "I'll be back".
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Qr870)
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And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
Posted by: Last Stop in Dipshitville at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (qUkBO)
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I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
So what you're saying is, your employer learned management in the military, where the SOP is to find the one or two soldiers in the shop who aren't totally incompetent and work them to death.
I'm on time and properly dressed every day. I spend a solid 90% of my day at work actually DOING work.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (fCgdX)
So what you're saying is, your employer learned management in the military, where the SOP is to find the one or two soldiers in the shop who aren't totally incompetent and work them to death.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (y9nCu)
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"Professor Squirrel told me there was not a single copy of anything Freeman Dyson wrote in his entire University system. Amazingly sad."
Modern educational consensus:
Freeman Dyson was a fag and all his shit is retarded.
Modern educational consensus:
Freeman Dyson was a fag and all his shit is retarded.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (QB+5g)
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In my own personal experience I've had more good male managers then female, but I've had good female managers as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)
I currently have a female manager. She's okay. The only real issue I have with her is that she won't hear me when I tell her that the current fetish of "show your direct reports that you CARE about them" really isn't necessary for me.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:42 PM (t0Rmr)
I currently have a female manager. She's okay. The only real issue I have with her is that she won't hear me when I tell her that the current fetish of "show your direct reports that you CARE about them" really isn't necessary for me.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)
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Faggot Shitass and the White Oppressor of Hate
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Posted by: Chester The Molester
Since when are high schoolers reading Hustler?
Heather Scissors Her Sister
It's OK to Be a Pedo
Black and a Victim
Molester Marvin's Happy Place
+++
What about me?
Posted by: Chester The Molester
Since when are high schoolers reading Hustler?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (+bLMA)
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I'm so glad that my son, who graduated college in 2023, isn't like the grads described here.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (77rzZ)
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books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Books from that time, including (especially) Dickens's, were serialized. Each chapter would be savored, or devoured, possibly out loud with company, with great anticipation for the next.
books from that time period were like a companion you sat down with and enjoyed over time rather than a story you wanted to follow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Books from that time, including (especially) Dickens's, were serialized. Each chapter would be savored, or devoured, possibly out loud with company, with great anticipation for the next.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (xp7+v)
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212 And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
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I get a kick out of it.
Sommers has this childish energy that I find amusing to some degree.
But dude really needed a cowriter.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
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I get a kick out of it.
Sommers has this childish energy that I find amusing to some degree.
But dude really needed a cowriter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
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It was not uncommon for upper class children in 17th and 18th century England to master Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Middle English by the time they were early teens. Seriously. You were expected to read the Classics, the Old Testament and Chaucer in the orginals in your teens. When you went to Oxford or Cambridge, many classes were taught in Latin.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (pMi6S)
There was a book written in the '80s called "Amusing Ourselves to Death" which talks about this.
Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV) and how the medium we use to interact with information entirely re-wires our brain.
Interesting hypothesis, and I'm sure much has been or will be written about the current medium of tiktok and twitter headlines.
Compare that to today, when 20-year-olds are illiterate in English.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (pMi6S)
There was a book written in the '80s called "Amusing Ourselves to Death" which talks about this.
Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV) and how the medium we use to interact with information entirely re-wires our brain.
Interesting hypothesis, and I'm sure much has been or will be written about the current medium of tiktok and twitter headlines.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
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Because schools aren't there to teach subjects anymore they are there to teach leftardism. They want people dumb and it's working.
dumb is fine it is that they are decivilized which is the thing,
dumb is fine it is that they are decivilized which is the thing,
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (3GGcJ)
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There were definitely some books we had to read in high school english that bored the living Hell out of me. Just had to grind through them. I imagine I'd get a lot more out of some of them 50 years later.
But the Canterbury Tales was lit af.
But the Canterbury Tales was lit af.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (wtvvX)
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I'll defend 'A Tale of Two Cities'. It can wordy in places, though how you tell Dickens 'cut it short' I don't know. But I thought it was intricate with a large cast of distinct characters and there are some very noble sentiments in it.
Also fuck the French.
Also fuck the French.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (xcxpd)
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And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
Any film that has Kate Beckinsale in painted-on leather or latex is by definition an awesome movie.
And thirdly, Van Helsing is an awesome movie
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:05 PM (Ch4Qk)
Any film that has Kate Beckinsale in painted-on leather or latex is by definition an awesome movie.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (y9nCu)
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I currently have a female manager. She's okay. The only real issue I have with her is that she won't hear me when I tell her that the current fetish of "show your direct reports that you CARE about them" really isn't necessary for me.
So the dark answer to this is that you don't have to actually care, but if you are able to fake it it will have the same employee retention effect.
So the dark answer to this is that you don't have to actually care, but if you are able to fake it it will have the same employee retention effect.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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I'm so glad that my son, who graduated college in 2023, isn't like the grads described here.
Posted by: Bulg
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How did he manage it?
I'm so glad that my son, who graduated college in 2023, isn't like the grads described here.
Posted by: Bulg
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How did he manage it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (xp7+v)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (PzXaK)
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I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, maybe more than 5 minutes. The Mummy and all ...
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
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Stephen Sommers was a thing for like 5 minutes.
Van Helsing ended that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, maybe more than 5 minutes. The Mummy and all ...
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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Freeman Dyson was a fag and all his shit is retarded.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (QB+5g)
He sucked
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (QB+5g)
He sucked
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (Qr870)
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229 Well, maybe more than 5 minutes. The Mummy and all ...
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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It was The Mummy Returns that really ended things. It just made too much money for people to realize at the time.
I also thought Deep Rising was quite good for what it was.
But VH was a total misfire.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
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It was The Mummy Returns that really ended things. It just made too much money for people to realize at the time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)
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When I was in HS we had to read War and Peace...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (PzXaK)
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"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (RHGPo)
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dumb is fine it is that they are decivilized which is the thing,
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (3GGcJ
That's fair.
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:07 PM (3GGcJ
That's fair.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (Qr870)
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (fV+MH)
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An Ivy League prof I know hired some of his post-grad students to put up some siding on his house. We were outside watching the progress of the work. One of the guys would reach into his nail pouch, pull out a nail and drive it in. But the next nail he tossed in the trash bin. This went on for a while until my friend hollered, "Hey, why are you throwing out half the nails?" The kid said, "The points are on the wrong end!"
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
Posted by: muldoon
Thanks, Moe.
Posted by: Curly
My professor friend replied, "You dummy! Those are for the other side of the house!"
Posted by: muldoon
Thanks, Moe.
Posted by: Curly
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (+bLMA)
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the nice thing is if youre fond of what internets did for education , your going to love ai
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (lwxOY)
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"I saw Van Helsing last night. Saw it 20 years ago and forgot about it. Now I remember why. Hard to see how a big budget, high concept blockbuster could go so wrong. Actually, it's not hard to see at all."
I watched "Nosferatu" last night and for some reason was reminded of that abortion of a movie. The guy playing Dracula-which is one of the coolest characters when played right-hammed it up so bad he deserved a stake in the heart
I watched "Nosferatu" last night and for some reason was reminded of that abortion of a movie. The guy playing Dracula-which is one of the coolest characters when played right-hammed it up so bad he deserved a stake in the heart
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (xP8uf)
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Books from that time, including (especially) Dickens's, were serialized. Each chapter would be savored, or devoured, possibly out loud with company, with great anticipation for the next.
There were fewer things to distract you back then. I found that out when our power went out one winter: I spent most of the day cleaning and reading by daylight near the window, then sleeping from sundown to sunup. It was slower and more relaxing and I would savor the book more.
https://youtu.be/3KbTO13pFN4
There were fewer things to distract you back then. I found that out when our power went out one winter: I spent most of the day cleaning and reading by daylight near the window, then sleeping from sundown to sunup. It was slower and more relaxing and I would savor the book more.
https://youtu.be/3KbTO13pFN4
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (dfIr7)
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In a lot of forward looking dystopian novels the government makes it so the plebes can't read works that oppose the government's efforts - 1984 being the most extreme example.
But it turns out the government, or more accurately the people that control the government, can get the same impact by just distracting people 24/7.
And the amazing thing is they succeed in this more with people that don't work then with people that do. I can see how TikTok or the like can be addicting, but there are people that literally spend all day on it and come away knowing nothing of value.
But it turns out the government, or more accurately the people that control the government, can get the same impact by just distracting people 24/7.
And the amazing thing is they succeed in this more with people that don't work then with people that do. I can see how TikTok or the like can be addicting, but there are people that literally spend all day on it and come away knowing nothing of value.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (t0Rmr)
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"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (+bLMA)
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239 the nice thing is if youre fond of what internets did for education , your going to love ai
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (lwxOY)
It's already happening. "Chat GPT, summarize the book Gone With the Wind for me, and write an essay about it in the voice of an 11th grade student, based on the following prompt:" (then copy and paste the assignment from the teacher in to ChatGPT)
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:09 PM (lwxOY)
It's already happening. "Chat GPT, summarize the book Gone With the Wind for me, and write an essay about it in the voice of an 11th grade student, based on the following prompt:" (then copy and paste the assignment from the teacher in to ChatGPT)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:11 PM (uCjyK)
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243 "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (+bLMA)
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"I AM THE LARGEST INDEPENDENT PRODUCER ON THE PLANET AND I'M HIGH ON THE 30S VERSION OF COCAINE!!!!! YOU WILL BEND TO MY WILL, YOU FUCKERS!"
-David O. Selznick, transcript of meeting with the Hays Office
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 02:02 PM (PzXaK)
I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
Posted by: Bulg
In 1939? Oh yeah.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:10 PM (+bLMA)
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"I AM THE LARGEST INDEPENDENT PRODUCER ON THE PLANET AND I'M HIGH ON THE 30S VERSION OF COCAINE!!!!! YOU WILL BEND TO MY WILL, YOU FUCKERS!"
-David O. Selznick, transcript of meeting with the Hays Office
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)
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End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (xp7+v)
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Interesting hypothesis, and I'm sure much has been or will be written about the current medium of tiktok and twitter headlines.
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Maybe someone will do a youtube video about it.
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Maybe someone will do a youtube video about it.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (zLwRl)
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How did he manage it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I'd like to think it's his awesome parents!
But, seriously, he's always been pretty driven. It sometimes takes him awhile to make up his mind, but, once he's done so, he's all-in. Very determined and goal-oriented.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I'd like to think it's his awesome parents!
But, seriously, he's always been pretty driven. It sometimes takes him awhile to make up his mind, but, once he's done so, he's all-in. Very determined and goal-oriented.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (77rzZ)
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A Tale of Two Cities is quite a slog.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
But SOOOOOO much better than Great Expectations.
Great Expectations was my first Dickens book and I wouldn't have read another if ToTC wasn't required for a class.
But you have to have read that to know that.
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)
But SOOOOOO much better than Great Expectations.
Great Expectations was my first Dickens book and I wouldn't have read another if ToTC wasn't required for a class.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (N1DT3)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (dfIr7)
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Maybe AI is showing a major flaw in our school curriculums.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (Qr870)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
He should talk with Joss Whedon and Alan Moore
He should talk with Joss Whedon and Alan Moore
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)
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I've heard that Selznick had a real fight with the censors to keep that line in.
I swear that the TV version had "darn" there, but that might just be a false memory.
I swear that the TV version had "darn" there, but that might just be a false memory.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (dfIr7)
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Thornton Melon: [chuckling to his classmates] Good teacher. He really seems to care. About what I have no idea.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (RHGPo)
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My high school history teacher, Mr. Ronald Holmes (who did three tours in Vietnam and was a total badass), told us the story of how, as a child, he went to see Gone with the Wind three times just to hear that line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
Did he know Professor Terguson?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
Did he know Professor Terguson?
Posted by: Thornton Melon at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (wVcYX)
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251 Maybe AI is showing a major flaw in our school curriculums.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (Qr870)
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Junior has to handwrite summaries of what he read every day this summer.
His Rome prep today was using the map of the city to trace routes from several places to others.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (Qr870)
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Junior has to handwrite summaries of what he read every day this summer.
His Rome prep today was using the map of the city to trace routes from several places to others.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Today it's the internet that allows students not to have to read books. In my day it was Cliff Notes.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (VofaG)
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Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Some people are bookish... it's fine. I remember choosing "Dickens and the novel of protest" for my senior thesis in HS and my English teacher telling me that she looked forward to reading what I had to say since she'd written her doctoral thesis on it. She was a good teacher. I learned a lot from her - not that, she was pretty old.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Some people are bookish... it's fine. I remember choosing "Dickens and the novel of protest" for my senior thesis in HS and my English teacher telling me that she looked forward to reading what I had to say since she'd written her doctoral thesis on it. She was a good teacher. I learned a lot from her - not that, she was pretty old.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (ExV1e)
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"I'll defend 'A Tale of Two Cities'. It can wordy in places, though how you tell Dickens 'cut it short' I don't know. But I thought it was intricate with a large cast of distinct characters and there are some very noble sentiments in it.
Also fuck the French.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"
The dialogue between the father and the daughter was just too maudlin for me. And then when the father regressed back into crazy town I said "see ya".
Also fuck the French.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"
The dialogue between the father and the daughter was just too maudlin for me. And then when the father regressed back into crazy town I said "see ya".
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (fV+MH)
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258 Going to college to get a degree in English or some such is idiotic...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)
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End result: The United States has no future. Entire generations are lost.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Solution?
Ground pounding world war to thin the ranks. Won't need as much deadwood hanging around.
Posted by: zombie
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Consolation: if it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, so we'll all go down the toilet at the same time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Solution?
Ground pounding world war to thin the ranks. Won't need as much deadwood hanging around.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (+bLMA)
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So its a book thread now?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (dfIr7)
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Here is a ChatGPT 5 Sentence Summary of GWTW...
Gone with the Wind follows Scarlett O’Hara, a headstrong Southern belle, whose life is upended by the American Civil War and its aftermath. As her family’s plantation, Tara, suffers from the war’s destruction, Scarlett uses cunning and determination to survive and rebuild. She obsessively pursues Ashley Wilkes, despite his marriage to gentle Melanie, while constantly clashing with the dashing and pragmatic Rhett Butler. Scarlett eventually marries Rhett, but her selfishness and emotional blindness drive him away. In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Gone with the Wind follows Scarlett O’Hara, a headstrong Southern belle, whose life is upended by the American Civil War and its aftermath. As her family’s plantation, Tara, suffers from the war’s destruction, Scarlett uses cunning and determination to survive and rebuild. She obsessively pursues Ashley Wilkes, despite his marriage to gentle Melanie, while constantly clashing with the dashing and pragmatic Rhett Butler. Scarlett eventually marries Rhett, but her selfishness and emotional blindness drive him away. In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (XV/Pl)
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Maybe AI is showing a major flaw in our school curriculums.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Occasionally I'll hear about a teacher who will make his students argue the other side in a debate format to make sure they actually understand the issue at hand.
It usually generates a lot of outrage, but this is one of the easiest ways to force people to actually THINK that comes to mind.
Because what AI can't do is think, but students aren't asked to do that.
Occasionally I'll hear about a teacher who will make his students argue the other side in a debate format to make sure they actually understand the issue at hand.
It usually generates a lot of outrage, but this is one of the easiest ways to force people to actually THINK that comes to mind.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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I watched "Nosferatu" last night and for some reason was reminded of that abortion of a movie. The guy playing Dracula-which is one of the coolest characters when played right-hammed it up so bad he deserved a stake in the heart
Posted by: UGAdawg
The 1922 original is genuinely creepy.
Posted by: UGAdawg
The 1922 original is genuinely creepy.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (77rzZ)
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254 Thornton Melon: [chuckling to his classmates] Good teacher. He really seems to care. About what I have no idea.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (RHGPo)
Love that movie.. They mis cast the Son though in my opinion... Or the girlfriend...
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:13 PM (RHGPo)
Love that movie.. They mis cast the Son though in my opinion... Or the girlfriend...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Why would changing the spelling of a word bother anyone on the Left? They routinely change the meaning of words, sometimes in the middle of the same conversation. A conservative peaceful 'Protest' becomes an 'Insurrection'. Liberals burning down half the city becomes "Mostly Peaceful"
Their free speech means I have to listen to everything they say, without any comment. My free speech means they can shout be down any time they like.
Apparently, someone gave them the Gaia given right to control the language. Misspelling? Hah!
Their free speech means I have to listen to everything they say, without any comment. My free speech means they can shout be down any time they like.
Apparently, someone gave them the Gaia given right to control the language. Misspelling? Hah!
Posted by: JB1000 at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (UP8/b)
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Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
I started reading before kindergarten in the late 60s. Which is how I quickly realized that American TV has always had the IQ of a steaming pile of monkey crap.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Lays most of the blame on the shift from written word to audible word to visual stimulation (ie: books to radio to TV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)
I started reading before kindergarten in the late 60s. Which is how I quickly realized that American TV has always had the IQ of a steaming pile of monkey crap.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (y9nCu)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (dfIr7)
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I think good writers have a keen grasp of human nature and story. So a good story with good characters will have things that resonate with readers even if the writer didn't deliberately put them in.
yeah that is one of the more amusing parts of being an author. Well, that wasn't what I was doing or meant but hey you have fun with that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:12 PM (dfIr7)
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I think good writers have a keen grasp of human nature and story. So a good story with good characters will have things that resonate with readers even if the writer didn't deliberately put them in.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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I wrote a qualitative safety analysis for a project that installed some non-essential systems and equipment, and asked for some review and comment before sending it out for approval. The company's Director of Engineering provided his feedback that was obviously some AI generated argle bargle.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope8)
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re 74: i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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270 I wrote a qualitative safety analysis for a project that installed some non-essential systems and equipment, and asked for some review and comment before sending it out for approval. The company's Director of Engineering provided his feedback that was obviously some AI generated argle bargle.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope
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I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope
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I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (PiwSw)
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271 re 74: i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (Bi+MU)
I work on the printers, ovens and pick & place machines. Crazy high tech stuff.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:51 PM (Bi+MU)
I work on the printers, ovens and pick & place machines. Crazy high tech stuff.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (lPvx2)
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Let's not pretend that these little mouthbreathing homunculi would all turn into men and women of letters if they just paid a little more attention in class or had teachers who weren't all slinging dildoes around and cornholing anything that stops moving for three seconds.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (Bi+MU)
The Dignity Canal isn't going to dig itself.
It would definitely be less effective than sending them to the Mines as children.
Make Child Labor Great Again.
Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (Bi+MU)
The Dignity Canal isn't going to dig itself.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 02:17 PM (g8Ew8)
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In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (XV/Pl)
It was fine until that last part. Or did I totally miss that as how Scarlett felt?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:14 PM (XV/Pl)
It was fine until that last part. Or did I totally miss that as how Scarlett felt?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:17 PM (VofaG)
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I thought it was a book thread.
Posted by: Trying to keep up at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (bcy1V)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
*snort* Ok, that's pretty damn funny!
*snort* Ok, that's pretty damn funny!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (3Ope8)
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If 30+ years of listening to Conservative, Inc. and the Republicans have taught me anything is that tax cuts, vouchers, charter schools and tax cuts will fix all these issues.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (V362x)
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I think we can give a big shout out to Bill
Gates who pushed Common Core. He probably should be jailed just for that. Second look at bill of attainders.
Gates who pushed Common Core. He probably should be jailed just for that. Second look at bill of attainders.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (Vh9CX)
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Ground pounding world war to thin the ranks. Won't need as much deadwood hanging around.
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
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@122
>>Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Actually, if you have an air station, SMT and the like are not really a big problem.
>>Surface Mount Fixtures suck ass.
Actually, if you have an air station, SMT and the like are not really a big problem.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (XV/Pl)
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Kill the wabbit!
Posted by: Elmer Fudd at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (wVcYX)
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I thought it was a book thread.
Posted by: Trying to keep up at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (bcy1V)
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Since we don't read anything from celebrated far left authors, this doesn't count.
/NPC's everywhere.
Posted by: Trying to keep up at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (bcy1V)
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Since we don't read anything from celebrated far left authors, this doesn't count.
/NPC's everywhere.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)
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Mixed bag, IMO. Each generation is loaded with dumbasses and hard working, curious people. I have a kid that graduated a couple years ago from an East Coast, liberal, "elite," college. Hard worker, quotes Russian authors - likes reading. Pre-med, and English, btw. Works 70 hour weeks. Other kid just finished masters - has a job lined up. See plenty of the other side too. Heading into an interview shortly with a Gen Z, will see how that goes!
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (2bFN5)
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Only about 1/4 really isn't very high. What does it say about the other 3/4? I'd guess:
* Just care about DEI
* Hiring managers were just as unprepared for the workforce - and haven't improved
* Just care if they can get the answers to all the "gotcha" questions right
* Sees actually being competent and capable as a threat to their own position
* Just care if they're a good enough ass-kisser
* They are only hiring people who have the right connections anyway - knowledge and skills are irrelevant
* "Taking the initiative" just means "not standing around waiting to be told what to do". Can't have that.
* Just care about DEI
* Hiring managers were just as unprepared for the workforce - and haven't improved
* Just care if they can get the answers to all the "gotcha" questions right
* Sees actually being competent and capable as a threat to their own position
* Just care if they're a good enough ass-kisser
* They are only hiring people who have the right connections anyway - knowledge and skills are irrelevant
* "Taking the initiative" just means "not standing around waiting to be told what to do". Can't have that.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (hOOi9)
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Face it, the H1Bs will be there until the school system can turn out a decent product.
Otherwise the market will shift to places where the educational system turn out qualified people.
We cannot continue our technical superiority in the world the way things are going.
Otherwise the market will shift to places where the educational system turn out qualified people.
We cannot continue our technical superiority in the world the way things are going.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (QB+5g)
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Education should be more one on one, outside classrooms, assisted but not driven by tech.
Class instruction should only be a couple of hours a day at most.
One model could be similar to Neal Stephenson's idea in the Diamond Age. A form of AI sets up puzzles or projects for the kid, like game, where they learn stuff by using it.
Class instruction should only be a couple of hours a day at most.
One model could be similar to Neal Stephenson's idea in the Diamond Age. A form of AI sets up puzzles or projects for the kid, like game, where they learn stuff by using it.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (VlUHr)
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I once heard that ancient Greece was the civilizational equivalent of the US in 1910, in areas without electricity.
That they were on the cusp discovering both electricity and steam power.
There's also the weird fact that Oxford was founded before the Aztec Empire was formed.
Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
That they were on the cusp discovering both electricity and steam power.
There's also the weird fact that Oxford was founded before the Aztec Empire was formed.
Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (JThEY)
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*smirk*
Posted by: Homeschoolers everywhere at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (bcy1V)
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It's not great.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM
The writing skills I see from our interns, who have supposedly just completed a legal research and writing class, are shockingly bad. I should never see a sentence fragment from someone who finished middle school.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:31 PM
The writing skills I see from our interns, who have supposedly just completed a legal research and writing class, are shockingly bad. I should never see a sentence fragment from someone who finished middle school.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dPfyF)
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Great Expectations was my first Dickens book and I wouldn't have read another if ToTC wasn't required for a class.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
My 5th-grade English class read that book. We read it aloud.
I probably wouldn't have read another Dickens book after that, either, had I not been in the chorus of Oliver! in the 8th grade, which led to my reading Oliver Twist.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
My 5th-grade English class read that book. We read it aloud.
I probably wouldn't have read another Dickens book after that, either, had I not been in the chorus of Oliver! in the 8th grade, which led to my reading Oliver Twist.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (77rzZ)
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In the end, after Melanie dies and Ashley is free, Scarlett realizes too late that she loved Rhett all along — but vows to win him back with the iconic line, "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender
have a summary of this comment?
Posted by: Thomas Bender
have a summary of this comment?
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (XTrKs)
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This is a good as the Kaboom thread! And on a much more important subject!
Posted by: jocon307 at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (EuROc)
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Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
I'm on my way.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
I'm on my way.
Posted by: Apophis at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (lPvx2)
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The word "elite" seems wildly misplaced in that sentence.
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I've been bothered by that for ages now. To me, the word means the 1927 Yankees or the Navy Seals. Now, it means some, apparently, with weird colored hair.
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I've been bothered by that for ages now. To me, the word means the 1927 Yankees or the Navy Seals. Now, it means some, apparently, with weird colored hair.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (od0dV)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (y9nCu)
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You guys fight over that.
I'm going to finish my treatise about the hidden meaning of The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.
"I don't have any idea how people find stuff in my books that I never put there" --- Kurt Vonnegut
Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn't know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (y9nCu)
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You guys fight over that.
I'm going to finish my treatise about the hidden meaning of The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (6iQ9H)
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i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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300 have a summary of this comment?
Scarlett was an awful spoiled bitch
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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And the men of the South would have cut off their own balls to get her attention.
Scarlett was an awful spoiled bitch
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
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And the men of the South would have cut off their own balls to get her attention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (JThEY)
Book recommendation: Riddley Walker, by Russell Hoban.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (JThEY)
Book recommendation: Riddley Walker, by Russell Hoban.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (PiwSw)
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The problem? The resolution repeatedly spelled the word "fascism" as "facism."
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That's just facile ...
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That's just facile ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (bDKEL)
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Don't blame the Monster Children for being Monster Children who went to college.
The blame lays with the egg and sperm donors, most of whom should have had vasectomies for the males and whatever you do to a woman to keep her from being a Broodmare.
The blame lays with the egg and sperm donors, most of whom should have had vasectomies for the males and whatever you do to a woman to keep her from being a Broodmare.
Posted by: Snip It and Clip It at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (rfMRc)
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I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (VlUHr)
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Daughter graduated College... Graphic design..Son.. Nope.. Of the two he is "smarter" just wouldn't do the work
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (VE6XX)
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I started reading before kindergarten in the late 60s. Which is how I quickly realized that American TV has always had the IQ of a steaming pile of monkey crap.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (y9nCu)
The argument is that the format itself can only produce an overwhelming amount of unnecessary information, and that it's primarily visual information.
So for TV news, for example, you have a 3 minute segment on a car accident on the interstate then the newscaster says "and then there's this" and it's a 3 minute segment on people mt Everest, then a series of commercials, etc. etc.
The format doesn't allow for deep thinking and by it's nature overwhelms you with visual stimulus, all of which just overwhelms your brain, which evolved to look at cave drawings then read the written word which causes you to create your own visuals and all of that.
Social media is basically TV but x100.
On the other hand, Japanese superheros like Kikaida or Ultraman were teh awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (y9nCu)
The argument is that the format itself can only produce an overwhelming amount of unnecessary information, and that it's primarily visual information.
So for TV news, for example, you have a 3 minute segment on a car accident on the interstate then the newscaster says "and then there's this" and it's a 3 minute segment on people mt Everest, then a series of commercials, etc. etc.
The format doesn't allow for deep thinking and by it's nature overwhelms you with visual stimulus, all of which just overwhelms your brain, which evolved to look at cave drawings then read the written word which causes you to create your own visuals and all of that.
Social media is basically TV but x100.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (uCjyK)
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On the subject of books, I've been reading a lot of foreign (Japenese and Korean) books lately, but everything I find seems to be fantasy.
Is there any good Sci-Fi out there? I was some spaceships blowing each other up or giant robots or something.
Something like "Ender's Game". Not the later, freaky books that make up the "Saga", but the first one.
Is there any good Sci-Fi out there? I was some spaceships blowing each other up or giant robots or something.
Something like "Ender's Game". Not the later, freaky books that make up the "Saga", but the first one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (N1DT3)
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'I do not care she is illeterate. She pleases me. Have her bathed and bring her to my chambers.'
-Something Zod has said.
-Something Zod has said.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (LHPAg)
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So glad I homeschooled!
Posted by: Texican ette at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (SNf74)
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2.1 million people live in Gaza, and a new judicial ruling in France gives every single one of them the right to move to France. If I were Bibi Netanyahu, I would buy every single one of them a plane ticket and wave goodbye as they took their free trip to Paris. If I were a Gazan, I would accept that free ticket and get on the first plane, hoping that the free room and board will allow me to enjoy my time there.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (6iQ9H)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
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If you fight by European rules, yeah.
All it takes is one side that goes back to "I'll kill your warriors in order to assimilate your women and take your stuff,' rather than 'let me put my ideology in you' which will be an easier position to sell after the collapse.
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If you fight by European rules, yeah.
All it takes is one side that goes back to "I'll kill your warriors in order to assimilate your women and take your stuff,' rather than 'let me put my ideology in you' which will be an easier position to sell after the collapse.
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (zLwRl)
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"Scarlett was an awful spoiled bitch."
And The Wizard of Oz was a story about two women fighting over a pair of shoes.
And The Wizard of Oz was a story about two women fighting over a pair of shoes.
Posted by: Movie Critic wannabe at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (bcy1V)
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303 Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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I...appreciate Ulysses. I think that's the best way to put it.
I find emotional meaning in its finale, as showy and opaque as it is.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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I...appreciate Ulysses. I think that's the best way to put it.
I find emotional meaning in its finale, as showy and opaque as it is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (PiwSw)
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Gigolo
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the English Major at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (PiwSw)
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Gigolo
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (iFTx/)
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The opening chapters of Great Expectations are pretty good, though. The graveyard scene at the very beginning is riveting.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (77rzZ)
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Facism?
Hell even Spell Check flags that.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (6iQ9H)
You should see how they spelled fight
Hell even Spell Check flags that.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:21 PM (6iQ9H)
You should see how they spelled fight
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (Qr870)
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i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
I've watched most of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Does that count?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
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I have!
Twice!
I kind of got it the second time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
I've watched most of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Does that count?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (wVcYX)
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I was a Marketing major with intention to work in the Advertising industry.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (VofaG)
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The bigger problem with fixing modern electronics is that you will not have any access to the service manuals or any of the IC's should you need them.
You might be able to look up a part and may be listed as being available, but the chip manufacturer will not sell it to you.
That's pretty much the reason everything is disposable.
You might be able to look up a part and may be listed as being available, but the chip manufacturer will not sell it to you.
That's pretty much the reason everything is disposable.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (XV/Pl)
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308 I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
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"Copilot, write me a self review that highlights these two projects in a self-critically positive light."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
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"Copilot, write me a self review that highlights these two projects in a self-critically positive light."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
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" I use AI to write my self-assessments for HR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*"
Unbeliveable!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I've never heard of such an idea.
*shifty eyes*"
Unbeliveable!!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (QB+5g)
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Snow Crash and The Diamond Age.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (6iQ9H)
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Overrated crap from an era that loved overrated crap
Yeah, its been a rough slog trying to read classic celebrated books because too many of them are just... not as good as their reputation, especially early 20th century. Some of them are absolute gems but many are pretentious and awful.
Yeah, its been a rough slog trying to read classic celebrated books because too many of them are just... not as good as their reputation, especially early 20th century. Some of them are absolute gems but many are pretentious and awful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (dfIr7)
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Kurt Vonnegut in Back to School was a classic bit
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 02:24 PM (Ry3Y5)
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"lack of preparation, a so-so work ethic, and a sense of entitlement"
So ... 1/4 of hiring managers have a "confession by projection" thing going on...
So ... 1/4 of hiring managers have a "confession by projection" thing going on...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (hOOi9)
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Here's the answer. Scroll down to the part on "the cloister." It's an effective, therefore doomed, solution. But it will probably get a few trials.
https://tinyurl.com/395cwcfu
Here's the answer. Scroll down to the part on "the cloister." It's an effective, therefore doomed, solution. But it will probably get a few trials.
https://tinyurl.com/395cwcfu
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (xp7+v)
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Nood. Surplus.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (ExV1e)
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Something like "Ender's Game". Not the later, freaky books that make up the "Saga", but the first one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (N1DT3)
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I've been enjoying the Tyrus Rechs series. Who doesn't like a mercenary who's immortal flying around the galaxy blowing stuff up?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:22 PM (N1DT3)
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I've been enjoying the Tyrus Rechs series. Who doesn't like a mercenary who's immortal flying around the galaxy blowing stuff up?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (tT6L1)
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someboyd who hates dickens should try melville,
Posted by: n at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (lwxOY)
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324 I was a Marketing major with intention to work in the Advertising industry.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (VofaG)
I've spent my entire 20 professional years in advertising/marketing.
You didn't miss much.
Ended up an Insurance claims manager for 35 years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (VofaG)
I've spent my entire 20 professional years in advertising/marketing.
You didn't miss much.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (KbCG3)
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Is there any good Sci-Fi out there? I was some spaceships blowing each other up or giant robots or something./i]
Check out Control-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole. I highly recommend. I'll dig through my stuff, there are a few Horde sci fi writers and that's good stuff as well.
Check out Control-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole. I highly recommend. I'll dig through my stuff, there are a few Horde sci fi writers and that's good stuff as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
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@294
>>have a summary of this comment?
Scarlett loses Rhett, realizes love, vows hope: "Tomorrow’s another day."
>>have a summary of this comment?
Scarlett loses Rhett, realizes love, vows hope: "Tomorrow’s another day."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (XV/Pl)
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I've watched most of Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Does that count?
Posted by: Count de Monet
It's the Soggy Bottom Boys!
Posted by: Count de Monet
It's the Soggy Bottom Boys!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (VofaG)
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All I see are phallic symbols.
Posted by: Horny 11th grade English Lit teacher at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (bcy1V)
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I think most of our problems, and I will be repeating myself, again, is that we smirk at virtue. It's all about how to get ahead, not how to be the best person you can be.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (vd6bO)
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That last part is a killer. It's also why DEI hires/promotions are usually a disaster. Everyone infected with woke is also infected by the comorbidity of believing that all criticism/direction from your boss is a racial or sexual aggression, and that you're perfect the way you are, and that anyone who attempts to instruct you to do the job the right way is a racist who doesn't understand your Different Ways of Knowing.
Can't share details but I know someone personally who was on the receiving end of this. Was a VP or SVP at a BIG company. White guy. Hired a young black woman who fucked something up and he gave her gentle correction. This is a very non-confrontational guy BTW, to the point of being a bit of a pushover. She eventually quit. Then sued alleging, of course, racial discrimination. The corporation settled, being the pussies corporations are. The great irony is that almost the entirety of this guy's department was comprised of minorities.
Can't share details but I know someone personally who was on the receiving end of this. Was a VP or SVP at a BIG company. White guy. Hired a young black woman who fucked something up and he gave her gentle correction. This is a very non-confrontational guy BTW, to the point of being a bit of a pushover. She eventually quit. Then sued alleging, of course, racial discrimination. The corporation settled, being the pussies corporations are. The great irony is that almost the entirety of this guy's department was comprised of minorities.
Posted by: Can't do the work but they'll sue the shit out of you at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Y1sOo)
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"And The Wizard of Oz was a story about two women fighting over a pair of shoes.
Posted by: Movie Critic wannabe"
Holy shit!
Posted by: Movie Critic wannabe"
Holy shit!
Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (fV+MH)
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"They Don’t Read Very Well: A Study of the Reading Comprehension Skills of English Majors at Two Midwestern Universities"
a very scary paper.
https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/922346
a very scary paper.
https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/922346
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (dKEEs)
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310 Daughter graduated College... Graphic design..Son.. Nope.. Of the two he is "smarter" just wouldn't do the work
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A twelve year sentence of bells and cells might be too much for a normal guy. Adding 4 moar years to that sentence is not as attractive as they make out.
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A twelve year sentence of bells and cells might be too much for a normal guy. Adding 4 moar years to that sentence is not as attractive as they make out.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (W3T6M)
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I've spent my entire 20 professional years in advertising/marketing.
You didn't miss much.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (KbCG3)
I wanted to be the creative producer of ad campaigns. I still make up commercials in my head for different products.
You didn't miss much.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (KbCG3)
I wanted to be the creative producer of ad campaigns. I still make up commercials in my head for different products.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 02:28 PM (Y1sOo)
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Anyway, what bothers me most about the current decline, and why I've said the lucky ones will die in the first attacks, is that for a while, you'll remember the way it was but there'll be no one to fix it.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
Dark Ages were not that bad.
And then there'll be no one who even remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
Dark Ages were not that bad.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 02:29 PM (tm0oK)
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Dark Ages were not that bad.
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Serfs only paid 20% of their crop. Compare that to today's Dane Geld.
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Serfs only paid 20% of their crop. Compare that to today's Dane Geld.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (W3T6M)
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296 Quick show of hands -- how many Morons and 'Ettes are English Majors?
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
Got kicked out first semester for cutting classes and drinking, informed I was likely going to be drafted (before lottery), so enlisted Navy. Fourteen years later got an Associates in General Studies. I was Elited.
I got kicked out of college for not going to class. So, no major.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)
Got kicked out first semester for cutting classes and drinking, informed I was likely going to be drafted (before lottery), so enlisted Navy. Fourteen years later got an Associates in General Studies. I was Elited.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:31 PM (LHPAg)
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The writing skills I see from our interns, who have supposedly just completed a legal research and writing class, are shockingly bad. I should never see a sentence fragment from someone who finished middle school.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dPfyF)
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Not even fragments of their imagination?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 02:20 PM (dPfyF)
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Not even fragments of their imagination?
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (qcBGV)
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Check out Control-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole. I highly recommend. I'll dig through my stuff, there are a few Horde sci fi writers and that's good stuff as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
Glad I buy stuff through Amazon, because it tells me I've already purchased it.
After reading the review, I remember that one. I read it almost 10 years ago. It was very good.
There's another one I read about the same time that was about a new future with a passenger airplane that went to the edge of space that got sabotaged into actual space. I can't recall the name of that one, but I enjoyed it a lot too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:25 PM (dfIr7)
Glad I buy stuff through Amazon, because it tells me I've already purchased it.
After reading the review, I remember that one. I read it almost 10 years ago. It was very good.
There's another one I read about the same time that was about a new future with a passenger airplane that went to the edge of space that got sabotaged into actual space. I can't recall the name of that one, but I enjoyed it a lot too.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 02:32 PM (N1DT3)
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I sympathize with the job hunt complaints. (cough) years ago, I got an Associates degree in IT and went to work. Ever since then, I've been moving upward based on the strength of hard work, dedication, and intelligence. I go to look at jobs outside my employer... 90% want Bachelor's or MS, as well as 10-15 years of experience in multiple technologies that've only been around for slightly longer than that and weren't worth knowing anything about until about 5 years ago, and in depth knowledge of multiple specific software and languages besides. WTF?
Posted by: RandomDave at July 14, 2025 02:33 PM (aJQbY)
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Got kicked out first semester for cutting classes and drinking, informed I was likely going to be drafted (before lottery), so enlisted Navy. Fourteen years later got an Associates in General Studies. I was Elited.
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Had a buddy in my Freshman year who joined the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. Guess where he ended up? Gun boat patrol on the Mekong. And then he had to finish up the other 2 years and 9 months of his tour stateside. Smart move.
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Had a buddy in my Freshman year who joined the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. Guess where he ended up? Gun boat patrol on the Mekong. And then he had to finish up the other 2 years and 9 months of his tour stateside. Smart move.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 02:34 PM (W3T6M)
357
i've read 'Ulysses' - have you?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
I once had a neighbor with a dog named Ulysses. Does that count?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 14, 2025 02:15 PM (CWTWj)
I once had a neighbor with a dog named Ulysses. Does that count?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (g8Ew8)
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160 One thing I can say about the Moron Horde:
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
I recommended "Lust Rumble". Did you read it?
Based on the books you've recommended on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you guys are among the most intelligent, articulate, well-read bunch of Morons it's been my pleasure to encounter on a weekly basis.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
I recommended "Lust Rumble". Did you read it?
Posted by: Uncle Pervy at July 14, 2025 02:36 PM (G5+As)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 14, 2025 02:37 PM (y9nCu)
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As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
Time to re-read Lucifer's Hammer, always fun.
As we can see in Europe now, the problem with war as a social tool is that it only kills the warriors. We need an invasion of aliens or some ghastly catastrophe like a meteor swarm wiping out half of the world's cities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (dfIr7)
Obligatory AI aliens talk about fighting humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCAziiAZoeM
Time to re-read Lucifer's Hammer, always fun.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 02:39 PM (LHPAg)
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Random Dave,
You hit the glass ceiling. I know many people in your situation and most of them become very bitter as time goes on. They are chained to where they are working and end up feeling abused by the system. Which they are.
I tell the younger folks that sound like you are to go and get their paper. It's stupid but it's the only way around it unless you go into management. It's hard if you don't have the support but this is one of the tragedies of the modern workforce.
You hit the glass ceiling. I know many people in your situation and most of them become very bitter as time goes on. They are chained to where they are working and end up feeling abused by the system. Which they are.
I tell the younger folks that sound like you are to go and get their paper. It's stupid but it's the only way around it unless you go into management. It's hard if you don't have the support but this is one of the tragedies of the modern workforce.
Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 02:42 PM (QB+5g)
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It's the Education Machine, run by people who were "educated" by it, and inherited the system from people ho had also been educated by it. 60-70 years ago, when the Machine was being assembled, those people were the C+/B- high school graduates and the system, slowly but surely got worse and worse. Crab bucket mentality is endemic among this crew. No student is challenged- can't have them know more that the Ill-educated teacher- and everybody is an A student, because "look how good we're doing, gimme that raise ".
Academia did this. They tolerated Education Schools with sub-par standards. They stood by while admins created diploma-mill "studies" departments. They eventually along with grade-inflation to keep the bodies in the seats and their paychecks coming.
The chickens are coming home to roost.
Academia did this. They tolerated Education Schools with sub-par standards. They stood by while admins created diploma-mill "studies" departments. They eventually along with grade-inflation to keep the bodies in the seats and their paychecks coming.
The chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 02:54 PM (n3kHr)
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The only time in my entire life, from an early age of learning to read, that I did not read for fun was in college in difficult pre-courses and then my major.
Because I was reading a lot of content for my major, on my one day off from classes or work I'd stare at art books. Simply because my brain was full and, I guess, I needed to decompress. The up side of this was I learned artists, especially French Impressionism.
Otherwise I am never without a book. Son's soccer game practice, doctor visits, trips, etc. There is a book in my purse.
I blame too much time on iPads or tablets for kids. If they don't see their parents reading, too, they don't read for pleasure.
DEI and racism also forces teachers to pass children who can't read. Wouldn't want to hurt their feelings by keeping them back a year in elementary school.
Because I was reading a lot of content for my major, on my one day off from classes or work I'd stare at art books. Simply because my brain was full and, I guess, I needed to decompress. The up side of this was I learned artists, especially French Impressionism.
Otherwise I am never without a book. Son's soccer game practice, doctor visits, trips, etc. There is a book in my purse.
I blame too much time on iPads or tablets for kids. If they don't see their parents reading, too, they don't read for pleasure.
DEI and racism also forces teachers to pass children who can't read. Wouldn't want to hurt their feelings by keeping them back a year in elementary school.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 14, 2025 03:02 PM (6PCLE)
Not Even the Leftist Simp NYT Believes That Biden Signed His Pardons
From Ed Morrissey: "Biden's" pardons aren't Biden's at all.
In an interview with The New York Times, Mr. Biden said that he had orally granted all the pardons and commutations issued at the end of his term, calling President Trump and other Republicans "liars" for claiming his aides had used an autopen to do so without his authorization. "I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people." ... Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to large numbers of people, he and aides confirmed. Rather, after extensive discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on the standards he wanted to be used to determine which convicts would qualify for a reduction in sentence. Even after Mr. Biden made that decision, one former aide said, the Bureau of Prisons kept providing additional information about specific inmates, resulting in small changes to the list. Rather than ask Mr. Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version through the autopen, which they saw as a routine procedure, the aide said.
“Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons…Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine”https://t.co/TwhbvujB6c pic.twitter.com/4OHRSl93or
— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) July 13, 2025
So the guy in charge of Covid censorship to cover up the crimes of Covid criminals then personally pardoned the top Covid criminal so that criminal couldn’t be charged with the crimes he originally censored you from talking about. https://t.co/LPfdLit90D
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) July 14, 2025
IOW, they showed him the parameters... he gazed at them without comprehension and they ran with it.
— Arthur Kimes (@ComradeArthur) July 14, 2025
cc: @AceofSpadesHQ
This is worse than Woodrow F. Wilson's stroke. https://t.co/MmMcSWCLPL
I am begging the New York Times and the rest of the media to, for one brief moment, consider the possibility that a Democratic elected official could be not telling them the truth. pic.twitter.com/6j5HUfPaXR
— Drew Holden (@DrewHolden360) July 14, 2025
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (dPfyF)
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The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (dPfyF)
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Bah, that's all in the past. Just move on. Dot Org.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (63Dwl)
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Top 10!
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (TN0g+)
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Joe's signing pardons. More crayons!
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (n2swS)
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Who Oked the NYT writing this?
Posted by: Ann at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (4neFu)
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What needs to happen is Trump writes an EO invalidating all of the suspect pardons and then let SCOTUS sort it out.
That's basically how this will get resolved.
That's basically how this will get resolved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
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6 Who Oked the NYT writing this?
I mean it could be a limited hangout but it just might get away from them...
I mean it could be a limited hangout but it just might get away from them...
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Sounds like a whole lot of obfuscation around the central salient point:
Biden approved a list. The list was changed. Biden never approved the revised list.
The physical mechanism by which ink was applied to paper is irrelevant.
Biden approved a list. The list was changed. Biden never approved the revised list.
The physical mechanism by which ink was applied to paper is irrelevant.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (VoAdT)
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"we have to accept this as a fate accompli otherwise it will damage our political system too deeply"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (D7oie)
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Wut
Posted by: OkJohn at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (azIeo)
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Did the people running the autopen mill get a pardon?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (EXyHK)
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I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
Did I call it, or what?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
Did I call it, or what?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (Riz8t)
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Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons�Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw
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We are now at the point where the constitutional boundaries on presidential signatures is: "If it looks like it, it's true."
"TJM is pardoned of all federal crimes. Signed Biden."
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We are now at the point where the constitutional boundaries on presidential signatures is: "If it looks like it, it's true."
"TJM is pardoned of all federal crimes. Signed Biden."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)
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"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people."
Then you should be able to recall them.
Name the names.
Then you should be able to recall them.
Name the names.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (+bLMA)
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I made a boob boom on the carpet!
Posted by: Joe Biden, Loved By Millions Of Democrats at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (rfMRc)
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We should probably let the Autopen thing go, like the Epstein thing. Who cares, right?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (BUCrD)
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I have only small hope that the "Weekend at Bernie's" presidency will have a reckoning.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (N1DT3)
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I want to know who was added to the revised list.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (Qr870)
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I've got to ask you about this autopenis, Trebek. Does it work? I'll buy a dozen right now!
Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (y9ksN)
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@3
>>Bah, that's all in the past. Just move on. Dot Org.
Word.
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Deep State Breathing a Sigh of Relief because Epstein's Dead and Ghislane's in Jail but if she talks to congress, we might have to arrange a delivery of blankets.
>>Bah, that's all in the past. Just move on. Dot Org.
Word.
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Deep State Breathing a Sigh of Relief because Epstein's Dead and Ghislane's in Jail but if she talks to congress, we might have to arrange a delivery of blankets.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: The Four Answers of Chairman Biden at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (qUkBO)
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On the one hand, I tire of detailed news stories about things I knew about years ago but that Normies are only realizing now (and which nothing substantive has been done to remedy yet).
On the other hand, such stories are preferable to the sorts of people you find in the ZeroHedge comments or as "right-wing influencers" screaming about Epstein for yet another day.
By the way, I'm still waiting to see if Bongino is out or not. Lot's of "sources say" articles this weekend from supposedly right-wing sites, but the level of evidence so far has been at the level of a Natasha Bertrand article so far.
On the other hand, such stories are preferable to the sorts of people you find in the ZeroHedge comments or as "right-wing influencers" screaming about Epstein for yet another day.
By the way, I'm still waiting to see if Bongino is out or not. Lot's of "sources say" articles this weekend from supposedly right-wing sites, but the level of evidence so far has been at the level of a Natasha Bertrand article so far.
Posted by: the lower depths at July 14, 2025 12:26 PM (+b4rY)
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"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people."
Dude, you can't even remember how sex works.
Dude, you can't even remember how sex works.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Qr870)
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What about the judicial appointments? There is no way on this planet that Biden made those judicial appointments. That is why all these judges are popping up and saying that Trump has no authority to do anything.
Posted by: wferrin at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lCdHU)
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A turnip says what?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (W3T6M)
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20 I've got to ask you about this autopenis, Trebek. Does it work? I'll buy a dozen right now!
Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)
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Nothing will happen, because nobody has the stones to other physically or materially ruin even a single leftist's life.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (UnA8+)
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26 What about the judicial appointments? There is no way on this planet that Biden made those judicial appointments. That is why all these judges are popping up and saying that Trump has no authority to do anything.
Posted by: wferrin at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lCdHU)
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Most of 'em are actually Obama appointees.
And, the idea that presidents are intimately familiar with any judicial nominee outside of the couple of weeks before nominating one for SCOTUS seems...misplaced.
Posted by: wferrin at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lCdHU)
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Most of 'em are actually Obama appointees.
And, the idea that presidents are intimately familiar with any judicial nominee outside of the couple of weeks before nominating one for SCOTUS seems...misplaced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (GBKbO)
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We should probably let the Autopen thing go, like the Epstein thing. Who cares, right?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Exactly. It wasn't like little kids being fucked.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Exactly. It wasn't like little kids being fucked.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (+bLMA)
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29 Nothing will happen, because nobody has the stones to other physically or materially ruin even a single leftist's life.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (UnA8+)
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Trump signing an EO declaring the final clemency list in question to be constitutionally invalid and arresting some of the people on the list would start an...interesting series of court cases.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (UnA8+)
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Trump signing an EO declaring the final clemency list in question to be constitutionally invalid and arresting some of the people on the list would start an...interesting series of court cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (dPfyF)
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It was a stutter pardon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (L/fGl)
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"Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to large numbers of people, he and aides confirmed. Rather, after extensive discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on the standards he wanted to be used to determine which convicts would qualify for a reduction in sentence."
I think that's much more serious than the NYT seems to think. While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Plus, the odd way the NYT phrases "signing off on the standards" suggests he didn't even do that.
There's more here. Certainly, the NYT hasn't done anything to quell the flames. Just the opposite.
So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
I think that's much more serious than the NYT seems to think. While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Plus, the odd way the NYT phrases "signing off on the standards" suggests he didn't even do that.
There's more here. Certainly, the NYT hasn't done anything to quell the flames. Just the opposite.
So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (+qU29)
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I'm pretty sure you can't pardon based on 'standard'.
But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (Al4HM)
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Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM
Sorry, you'll have to wait for tomorrow's Art Thread.
Let It Snow!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM
Sorry, you'll have to wait for tomorrow's Art Thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (dPfyF)
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This could get rather spicy. The pardon scandal is the tip of the iceberg. If the pardon signatures are questioned to the point of being disregarded then what does that do to anything else signed by Joe?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (tT6L1)
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35 So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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The fact most relevant to this story: Biden was a nearly braindead husk constantly fooled and/or manipulated by his own staff
But 81 million votes!!
But 81 million votes!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (5MZNC)
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I guess Trump isn't surrendering to the deep state afterall.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (t/2Uw)
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42 The fact most relevant to this story: Biden was a nearly braindead husk constantly fooled and/or manipulated by his own staff
But 81 million votes!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (5MZNC)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
But 81 million votes!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (5MZNC)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
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I guess what I don't understand is why there are people who care that people still care about Epstein.
What development has there been that would or should make people care less? It's been "investigated"? As Biden's Autopen would say, come on man.
It reminds me of those who wanted Trump to "move on" a few years back from talking about the stolen election. Why? It happened, it wasn't resolved, we all suffered the consequences.
This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
What development has there been that would or should make people care less? It's been "investigated"? As Biden's Autopen would say, come on man.
It reminds me of those who wanted Trump to "move on" a few years back from talking about the stolen election. Why? It happened, it wasn't resolved, we all suffered the consequences.
This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
"Why are there 1,500 pardons in here for 'Your Name'?"
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
"Why are there 1,500 pardons in here for 'Your Name'?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson's Stroke at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
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Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (6iQ9H)
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Remind me how many democrats have been prosecuted so far.....i thought so.
Posted by: Marge, you're soaking in it. at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (YovzQ)
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But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
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I think the NYT has decided to make Biden the scapegoat for all the bad actors and actions from the start of the first Obama term to now. He's clearly non compos mentis, so his denials need not make any sense.
I'm awaiting a claim that Biden shot JR.
I'm awaiting a claim that Biden shot JR.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (Riz8t)
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Again, the only way this gets any action is if Trump invalidates the pardons.
There is not other mechanism to remedy this injustice.
It's like when Biden retroactively removed Trump's security clearance so that he could be prosecuted during the documents case.
The President has to act and if he doesn't then, just stop bringing it up.
There is not other mechanism to remedy this injustice.
It's like when Biden retroactively removed Trump's security clearance so that he could be prosecuted during the documents case.
The President has to act and if he doesn't then, just stop bringing it up.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (XV/Pl)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
I almost spit out the Diet Coke I’m drinking!
-Jasmine Crockett
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
I almost spit out the Diet Coke I’m drinking!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (5MZNC)
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A turnip says what?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM
"........."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (dPfyF)
Hey!!
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM
"........."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (dPfyF)
Hey!!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (Qr870)
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Remember how they managed Obama with the checkboxes?
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
But even that lazy fuck pretended to read and review.
Biden wasn't even capable of that.
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
But even that lazy fuck pretended to read and review.
Biden wasn't even capable of that.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (JThEY)
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41 35 So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
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32 Trump signing an EO declaring the final clemency list in question to be constitutionally invalid and arresting some of the people on the list would start an...interesting series of court cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Meh.
They need to be physically AND financially abused. Roughed up at 3 AM Raids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Meh.
They need to be physically AND financially abused. Roughed up at 3 AM Raids.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (UnA8+)
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Aside from the center of the controversy, two things:
1) I think we need to toss the "Autopen" in the trash. It causes more problems than it solves.
2) Don't forget there are likely operations like that of Epstein going on currently. Let's maybe address this first?
1) I think we need to toss the "Autopen" in the trash. It causes more problems than it solves.
2) Don't forget there are likely operations like that of Epstein going on currently. Let's maybe address this first?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (vd6bO)
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Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons�Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw
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Sure as hell aint defending Biden, but there's got to be a way to do this for categorical pardons without approving each one. Carter did it with the Vietnam draft dodgers, which was what, at least tens of thousands?
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Sure as hell aint defending Biden, but there's got to be a way to do this for categorical pardons without approving each one. Carter did it with the Vietnam draft dodgers, which was what, at least tens of thousands?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (p16cu)
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48 This is worse than Woodrow F. Wilson's stroke.
Fuck you too, buddy!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson's Stroke at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
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Slightly amusing movie thing.
There's an early subplot in Birdman of Alcatraz to commute Shroud's death sentence. His mother ends up at the President of the United States'...wife. Her decision leads to the commutation. No commentary about Woodrow being unable to do anything, but...it's the implication.
Fuck you too, buddy!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson's Stroke at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
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Slightly amusing movie thing.
There's an early subplot in Birdman of Alcatraz to commute Shroud's death sentence. His mother ends up at the President of the United States'...wife. Her decision leads to the commutation. No commentary about Woodrow being unable to do anything, but...it's the implication.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
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So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll be he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe, but the NYT and/or Biden doesn't seem to be saying that. Which is getting my antenna up.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe, but the NYT and/or Biden doesn't seem to be saying that. Which is getting my antenna up.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (iFTx/)
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This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
The AoS style guide: He’s not the boss of me!!
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
The AoS style guide: He’s not the boss of me!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (5MZNC)
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52 But then, we're talking about power and not theory. They got away with it. I doubt even Trump will cancel all of Biden's criminal pardons
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)
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I think, though, President Trump has been very carefully laying the groundwork to have everything done by Joe called into question. Notice how President Trump has been very public about signing a lot of EO's, the BBB, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (xcxpd)
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It was a Presidency built entirely upon greed and falsehoods.
A Potemkin Presidency as it were.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (6iQ9H)
What's even more galling is they secretly removed and replaced a guy that wasnt even elected.
Mind you, that's extremely on-brand.
A Potemkin Presidency as it were.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (6iQ9H)
What's even more galling is they secretly removed and replaced a guy that wasnt even elected.
Mind you, that's extremely on-brand.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (Qr870)
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58 I have to believe that the minions in the WH did the big name ones correctly.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
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"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
I have to believe that they're at least that competent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
There is no level of corruption I cannot believe they would sink to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
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"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (GBKbO)
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This is the guy who pardoned his entire family going back to 2009, literally as he was walking out the door. Let's not give him the benefit of the doubt, ok, nyt?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (YbdaV)
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Afternoon Ace. Someone who got one of Biden's "pardons" will have to face prosecution for this to be sorted out. Say an aggressive Federal prosecutor decides to prosecute Fauci. Fauci's attorneys would have to raise the pardon as a bar to prosecution. The prosecutor would have to demonstrate that Biden didn't sign them so no pardon. Will be interested to watch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (Ry3Y5)
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calling President Trump and other Republicans "liars" for claiming his aides had used festive little hats without his authorization.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (3BDA1)
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The problem here is that the constitution provides no penalties for violating almost any of its prohibitions. It is illegal for someone else to sign pardons for the president, and it ought to negate the pardons, but the constitution just says only he can do it. Not "and if someone else does, then x."
So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (dfIr7)
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63 Maybe, but the NYT and/or Biden doesn't seem to be saying that. Which is getting my antenna up.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (iFTx/)
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I am very open to the possibility that an aide just ran through some big names like Fauci through.
I just have a level of doubt about it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (iFTx/)
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I am very open to the possibility that an aide just ran through some big names like Fauci through.
I just have a level of doubt about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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Even his pardons were fake. Not surprised at all.
Posted by: Shoofly the Boxing Mule at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (ufJfM)
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"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday, asserting that he had his staff use an autopen replicating his signature on the clemency warrants because "we're talking about a whole lot of people."
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Oh wow.
Looks what's being hidden there in plain sight.
A phone interview. Not in-person. Not via Zoom.
Really? Just Mr. Biden? No que cards? No staff feeding the answer?
Bullshit.
Even Bruce Willis in his last movies was less managed.
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Oh wow.
Looks what's being hidden there in plain sight.
A phone interview. Not in-person. Not via Zoom.
Really? Just Mr. Biden? No que cards? No staff feeding the answer?
Bullshit.
Even Bruce Willis in his last movies was less managed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (JThEY)
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (UjdFS)
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What needs to happen is Trump writes an EO invalidating all of the suspect pardons and then let SCOTUS sort it out.
That's basically how this will get resolved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Something tells me the dancing black robes would only address the validity of the EO and not the pardons.
Trump should ask a random official in BFE to turn on an AI autopen for a pardon of some random asshole. "ChatGTP, write a pardon for some asshole in Buttfucky, KY."
That's basically how this will get resolved.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Something tells me the dancing black robes would only address the validity of the EO and not the pardons.
Trump should ask a random official in BFE to turn on an AI autopen for a pardon of some random asshole. "ChatGTP, write a pardon for some asshole in Buttfucky, KY."
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Billy Squier at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (mWFkF)
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He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (xcxpd)
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I see your point and it's fair. I'd also point out, though, President Trump 2.0 has really been hitting things hard.
I'm going wait and see. I really hope, though, opening this can of worms is making a lot of people sweat.
He might use the issue as leverage, but I doubt he'll actually cancel the pardons. He didn't jail Hillary, after all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (xcxpd)
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I see your point and it's fair. I'd also point out, though, President Trump 2.0 has really been hitting things hard.
I'm going wait and see. I really hope, though, opening this can of worms is making a lot of people sweat.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (tT6L1)
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Fauci is the worst, most evil person in government in the last 50 years. Fight me
Please please make his pardon null and void
Please please make his pardon null and void
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (5MZNC)
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Why are so many prominent dems silent about this issue?
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Because elected democrats want to stay as far away from Biden as possible. Biden is not a popular ex president and I think many democrats harbor some ill will towards him for the election being what it was.
I expect a 6-3 SCOTUS ruling invalidating the pardons, but just Biden's.
If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Because elected democrats want to stay as far away from Biden as possible. Biden is not a popular ex president and I think many democrats harbor some ill will towards him for the election being what it was.
I expect a 6-3 SCOTUS ruling invalidating the pardons, but just Biden's.
If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Ford’s pardon of draft dodgers might have been categorical? It depends on your definition. I don’t think he named any specific individuals, just a crime that qualified anyone for a pardon.
Mind you, he also didn’t say, here’s the category, come up with a list of names and run them through the autopen, I’m off to the John Ball Zoo.
I was so much less than 29 when that pardon came through, so I could be misremembering any or all of it.
Ford’s pardon of draft dodgers might have been categorical? It depends on your definition. I don’t think he named any specific individuals, just a crime that qualified anyone for a pardon.
Mind you, he also didn’t say, here’s the category, come up with a list of names and run them through the autopen, I’m off to the John Ball Zoo.
I was so much less than 29 when that pardon came through, so I could be misremembering any or all of it.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (EXyHK)
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@71 you're correct about no consequences, but the actions taken without Biden signing off or on would be null and void.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (Ry3Y5)
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The Blade on ... blades.
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
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79 Fauci is the worst, most evil person in government in the last 50 years. Fight me
Please please make his pardon null and void
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (5MZNC)
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I bet there's a Todd in the Medicare office who has delighted in specific pain he can cause old, Republican voters.
Please please make his pardon null and void
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:36 PM (5MZNC)
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I bet there's a Todd in the Medicare office who has delighted in specific pain he can cause old, Republican voters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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So how's the fake cancer diagnosis doing?
LEAVE POOR JOE ALONE
LEAVE POOR JOE ALONE
Posted by: wth at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (UjdFS)
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80 Why are so many prominent dems silent about this issue?
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at Jul
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It's funny because the story is Biden aides admitted to wrongdoing.
Because it's ridiculous and no evidence will be found. i'm not sure hyping it up would help Biden. Let it fail on it's own. With the help of some good lawyers.
the more that they attempt to do so the more people will assume they are lying. In the end it just serves no purpose except to feed the MAGA trolls even more so it's better to cut off their food supply by ignoring it.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at Jul
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It's funny because the story is Biden aides admitted to wrongdoing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)
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If we’re using the new and improved Epstein doctrine of “it’s in the past who cares”, then why is this a thing? It’s in the past. Who cares.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (ImXfC)
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Drew Holden
@DrewHolden360
I am begging the New York Times and the rest of the media to, for one brief moment, consider the possibility that a Democratic elected official could be not telling them the truth.
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"Well, I never ...
HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!!
Have you noshame shrooms????"
Drew Holden
@DrewHolden360
I am begging the New York Times and the rest of the media to, for one brief moment, consider the possibility that a Democratic elected official could be not telling them the truth.
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"Well, I never ...
HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!!
Have you no
Posted by: ShainS at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (RW1OD)
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@71
>>So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
Fraud for one.
A highly motivated prosecutor can conjure up any manner of novel criminal theories.
Apparently all of the highly motivated prosecutors quit.
>>So what are the consequences for staffers using the autopen to write pardons and executive orders? None.
Fraud for one.
A highly motivated prosecutor can conjure up any manner of novel criminal theories.
Apparently all of the highly motivated prosecutors quit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
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If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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83 The Blade on ... blades.
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
There are cooks and chefs and hunters and maybe psychotic murderers here. So maybe this will interest them. I'm a fan of very high quality kitchen knives. I'm not gonna get into a debate over which brand is best, because you might as well tell a dude his wife's an oinker.
But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (xcxpd)
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90 If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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Trump has forgotten more American history than these people ever learned.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
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All sound and fury making no actual points whatsoever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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Trump has forgotten more American history than these people ever learned.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)
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Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Afternoon Ace. Someone who got one of Biden's "pardons" will have to face prosecution for this to be sorted out. Say an aggressive Federal prosecutor decides to prosecute Fauci. Fauci's attorneys would have to raise the pardon as a bar to prosecution. The prosecutor would have to demonstrate that Biden didn't sign them so no pardon. Will be interested to watch
Posted by: Smell the Glove
It would be too difficult to prosecute someone that way. The government already has too many irons in the fire. Wouldn't be a judicious use of government resources.
/s
Posted by: Smell the Glove
It would be too difficult to prosecute someone that way. The government already has too many irons in the fire. Wouldn't be a judicious use of government resources.
/s
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: a turnip at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (UjdFS)
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But I recently bought a Shun Narukami Carbon Steel knife. I never tried CS and was curious. I can now say that it's noticeably sharper than any other knife I have, and I have some seriously sharp knives (Zwilling Pro and Shun Premier).
IIRC, though, they are more brittle, and quicker to chip.
IIRC, though, they are more brittle, and quicker to chip.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (Riz8t)
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Joe's signing pardons. More crayons!
Posted by: huerfano
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AutoCrayon really eats them up.
Posted by: wth
Pfft. Piker.
-- White House Marine guards
Posted by: huerfano
......
AutoCrayon really eats them up.
Posted by: wth
Pfft. Piker.
-- White House Marine guards
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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I refuse to be willowed:
According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
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There there was the 11th hour transfer of 11 Yemeni Gitmo prisoners to Oman just before Trump took office. I'll wager the autopen was used on that as well, and Biden had no idea.
Keep in mind that it was done right as the New Orleans terrorist attack took place, and in 2023, a bi-partisan vote in Congress said NOT to transfer them anywhere.
Keep in mind that it was done right as the New Orleans terrorist attack took place, and in 2023, a bi-partisan vote in Congress said NOT to transfer them anywhere.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dIske)
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35. So, did Biden personally name any person to be pardoned? Fauci? The deep state slimy putrid cocksuckers? I'll bet he didn't.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
🙋♀️ Beau?
The J-6 Select Committee & related were certainly a stretch.
>Raskin, Dunn react to surprise pardons
From Maryland Matters
Among those receiving preemptive pardons were Maryland residents Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-8th), who served on the Jan. 6 committee, and former U.S. Capitol Police Office Harry Dunn, who testified before the panel about that day. Both said they were saddened by the fact that President Joe Biden felt the need to issue the pardons. "I wish this pardon weren't necessary, but unfortunately, the political climate we are in now has made the need for one somewhat of a reality," Dunn told CBS News. "I, like all of the other public servants, was just doing my job and upholding my oath, and I will always honor that." Raskin told NPR that he was not sure a pardon could be accepted or denied once issued, but that his role on the committee was legal and appropriate and is protected from prosecution. But, like Dunn, he said, "It's a sign of our strange times ..."
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
🙋♀️ Beau?
The J-6 Select Committee & related were certainly a stretch.
>Raskin, Dunn react to surprise pardons
From Maryland Matters
Among those receiving preemptive pardons were Maryland residents Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-8th), who served on the Jan. 6 committee, and former U.S. Capitol Police Office Harry Dunn, who testified before the panel about that day. Both said they were saddened by the fact that President Joe Biden felt the need to issue the pardons. "I wish this pardon weren't necessary, but unfortunately, the political climate we are in now has made the need for one somewhat of a reality," Dunn told CBS News. "I, like all of the other public servants, was just doing my job and upholding my oath, and I will always honor that." Raskin told NPR that he was not sure a pardon could be accepted or denied once issued, but that his role on the committee was legal and appropriate and is protected from prosecution. But, like Dunn, he said, "It's a sign of our strange times ..."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (NFX2v)
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MVP.
President Trump Points Out Red Sox Winning Streak After Oval Office Visit: “Haven’t Lost Since They Saw Me”
President Trump Points Out Red Sox Winning Streak After Oval Office Visit: “Haven’t Lost Since They Saw Me”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (L/fGl)
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Oh, yeah, and...get rid of the Autopen.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (vd6bO)
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This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:41 PM (77rzZ)
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This could easily be included in a conspiracy charge since these pardons were done to help propogate the conspiracy against Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (viF8m)
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"If we’re using the new and improved Epstein doctrine of “it’s in the past who cares”, then why is this a thing? It’s in the past. Who cares."
It's different because shut up, they explained.
It's different because shut up, they explained.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (kxF1Y)
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What needs to happen is Trump writes an EO invalidating all of the suspect pardons and then let SCOTUS sort it out.
And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
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Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
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Was Elmo really hacked or was he out drinking again with confirmed bachelors and Lindsey Graham supporters, Bert and Ernie?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (TGPs7)
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When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
Wow, she looks great even handling a shovel.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
Wow, she looks great even handling a shovel.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (77rzZ)
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111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
That should be SOP.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
That should be SOP.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (+bLMA)
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"Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine”
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If routine means "first time a mass pardon has happened without specific Presidential approval in American history", then, yes, routine.
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If routine means "first time a mass pardon has happened without specific Presidential approval in American history", then, yes, routine.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (LkicY)
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I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
True, and since most of them had never worked in the executive before, they might not have even known better.
True, and since most of them had never worked in the executive before, they might not have even known better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (dfIr7)
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111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
Don't know, but it is time for him to pass on. So let it be written, so let it be signed - by hand.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
Don't know, but it is time for him to pass on. So let it be written, so let it be signed - by hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (vd6bO)
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Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 12:43 PM (mlg/3)
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111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
no one knows. His birth certificate is clearly fake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
no one knows. His birth certificate is clearly fake.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (VoAdT)
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And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
As it should be?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
As it should be?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (0eaVi)
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>If we’re using the new and improved Epstein doctrine of “it’s in the past who cares”, then why is this a thing? It’s in the past. Who cares.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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because the person we were told was the President, wasn't actually the President.
It's... kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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because the person we were told was the President, wasn't actually the President.
It's... kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (AOsQT)
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When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
His aunt, Palm Pilot, liked to be fingered.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
His aunt, Palm Pilot, liked to be fingered.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (+bLMA)
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What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)
Obviously a shovel. Get your tools right.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)
Obviously a shovel. Get your tools right.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (TJLr1)
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President Mush Brain was right there in WH when most of the pardons were produced.
Why not just sign them
Why not just sign them
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 12:44 PM (tm0oK)
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103 This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
That ^
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
I mean, that was basically "the routine" for the entirety of the Biden administration, so they're not technically wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
That ^
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (NFX2v)
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If I were President Biden I would have followed up with "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
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The chances of Biden saying all that, with any clarity whatsoever, before the heat death of the universe is practically nil.
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The chances of Biden saying all that, with any clarity whatsoever, before the heat death of the universe is practically nil.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (mWFkF)
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Hmm, EO the pardons out of existence due to Joe not knowing what year it was, let alone day.
Then let those with the pardons appear in court, paying very expensive lawyers to handle their case.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Then let those with the pardons appear in court, paying very expensive lawyers to handle their case.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (tT6L1)
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If you're signing so many pardons that you need an autopen to do it, then maybe you should question the whole process? And if you're just signing a blanket pardon for a large list of people, then why would you need an autopen? Just wait for the final list, and provide your signature that one time.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (7aURE)
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@108
>>And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
That would be a positive outcome.
In fact, the Trump administration could draft rules surrounding the signing of pardons by the Unitary Executive, this would not have legal or constitutional effect but it would have institutional weight.
And at the end of the day, that's the best outcome.
>>And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
That would be a positive outcome.
In fact, the Trump administration could draft rules surrounding the signing of pardons by the Unitary Executive, this would not have legal or constitutional effect but it would have institutional weight.
And at the end of the day, that's the best outcome.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:45 PM (XV/Pl)
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That should be SOP.
It always was up until the Obama administration, when he used it to sign an extension to the Patriot Act. That was the first time any president ever did so with an official document as far as I can find in my research.
It always was up until the Obama administration, when he used it to sign an extension to the Patriot Act. That was the first time any president ever did so with an official document as far as I can find in my research.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (dfIr7)
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"Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
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Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
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I'm curious as to what the "class" descriptor would have been to get such a large, but still not really all that large, number of matches out of the entire federal prison system....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (VoAdT)
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132 "Meanwhile we now have a president that doesn't even know what article of the Constitution pertains to his office. He doesn't know English is the official language of Liberia. He thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive. Not to mention, he's a convicted felon. So if you're concerned about my mental acuity, I have a bigger story for you."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
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He couldn't have done it 40 years ago at the Clarence Thomas hearings.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (JCZqz)
Biden couldn't string that bullshit together in 30 takes with post production editing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (lPvx2)
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He couldn't have done it 40 years ago at the Clarence Thomas hearings.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: every libertarian
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I agree with that. Not signing individually for each person within a categorical pardon has to have happened before. Again, ie, Carter and the draft dodgers.
The real issue remains whether he had capacity to issue any pardon.
Posted by: Sharon
Not the main problem. The problem is the pardons signed without the conscience act by the executive. It's akin to a lawyer signing off on a bunch of stock trades on behalf of a senile client.
Posted by: every libertarian
___________
I agree with that. Not signing individually for each person within a categorical pardon has to have happened before. Again, ie, Carter and the draft dodgers.
The real issue remains whether he had capacity to issue any pardon.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (p16cu)
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This is at least similar, if not entirely related. But that doesn't mean if Trump says move on it's time to move on. That's insanity. He's not my boss.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
Today we're talking about former presidents pardons with autopens. A story that will go absolutely nowhere, since it's impossible to prove that Biden didn't know what he was signing, and Biden says he did know. There's no wet ink requirement in the Constitution, and no court has ruled Biden mentally incompetent, so he is able to enter in to contracts and sign orders, stupid as they may be and braindead as Biden may be.
Epstein was a few months ago. It's time to move on. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)
Today we're talking about former presidents pardons with autopens. A story that will go absolutely nowhere, since it's impossible to prove that Biden didn't know what he was signing, and Biden says he did know. There's no wet ink requirement in the Constitution, and no court has ruled Biden mentally incompetent, so he is able to enter in to contracts and sign orders, stupid as they may be and braindead as Biden may be.
Epstein was a few months ago. It's time to move on. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (uCjyK)
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144 111 When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
otto partes > otto pilot > otto pen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
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His uncle Otto Pilot was big in the news a few decades back.
otto partes > otto pilot > otto pen
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (v3pYe)
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Shun blades are top of the line. If I were to only own one kitchen knife it would be a Shun. (I haven't compared carbon vs premier though)
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
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The Shun version has a carbon blade wrapped in stainless steel so just the cutting edge is exposed. Supposedly, that strengthens the overall blade. We'll see. So issues so far.
Carbide knives are unbelievably sharp. I got a carbide knife once as a present, and stupidly used it to cut cheese (heh, he said cut cheese hehehe), whereupon a big chunk of the blade shattered.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
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The Shun version has a carbon blade wrapped in stainless steel so just the cutting edge is exposed. Supposedly, that strengthens the overall blade. We'll see. So issues so far.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (iFTx/)
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Then let those with the pardons appear in court, paying very expensive lawyers to handle their case.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Posted by: blake
Make the process the punishment. Oh, that's right. The right isn't allowed to do that. Only the left.
Let the process wend its way through the court system for years.
Watch each and everyone of them spending a couple of million on defense lawyers, out of their own pocket. (I don't see any billionaires wanting to help them out simply because there's nothing in it for them)
Posted by: blake
Make the process the punishment. Oh, that's right. The right isn't allowed to do that. Only the left.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (+bLMA)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (xcxpd)
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The chances of Biden saying all that, with any clarity whatsoever, before the heat death of the universe is practically nil.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
He couldn't have said it in his prime. Poor guy has a stutter, you know....
And he's retarded.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
He couldn't have said it in his prime. Poor guy has a stutter, you know....
And he's retarded.
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I didn’t even know there was an autopen until mushbrains was out of the WH. I naively assumed presidents always applied their John Hancock manually the way Smith Barney makes money: the old fashioned way
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (WnEm5)
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The Atlantic, Politics
When a Robot Signs a Bill: A Brief History of the Autopen, Jan. 3, 2013
"Obama was the first to do so, signing an extension of the PATRIOT Act via autopen while in Europe."
When a Robot Signs a Bill: A Brief History of the Autopen, Jan. 3, 2013
"Obama was the first to do so, signing an extension of the PATRIOT Act via autopen while in Europe."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:48 PM (NFX2v)
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135 The real issue remains whether he had capacity to issue any pardon.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (p16cu)
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People want this to be a problem.
But it's not a problem.
There's no constitutional requirement that the president by mentally cogent, only that it be the president's own signature. Contract law does not apply to presidential pardons, a power that is plenary and resides in the president himself.
No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:47 PM (p16cu)
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People want this to be a problem.
But it's not a problem.
There's no constitutional requirement that the president by mentally cogent, only that it be the president's own signature. Contract law does not apply to presidential pardons, a power that is plenary and resides in the president himself.
No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
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49 Has there ever been categorical pardons before?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Didn't Carter pardon all the Vietnam era draft dodgers?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Didn't Carter pardon all the Vietnam era draft dodgers?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (R256O)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
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When was Otto Pen born?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
I don't know, but iirc he was Ang N. Chad's running mate in the 2000 election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
I don't know, but iirc he was Ang N. Chad's running mate in the 2000 election.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (mWFkF)
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The important thing we need to ask though, how does this impact blacks.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
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"Get back on the plantation!"
-the trannies
The important thing we need to ask though, how does this impact blacks.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
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"Get back on the plantation!"
-the trannies
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
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VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (ukeFl)
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While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (fCgdX)
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Ah, that troll I know and recognize.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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July 14, 1918
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (6iQ9H)
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151 Ah, that troll I know and recognize.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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70 calling President Trump and other Republicans "liars" for claiming his aides had used festive little hats without his authorization.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and little hats at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (3BDA1)
You have me wanting to steal Speedy Gonzales's sombrero.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and little hats at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (3BDA1)
You have me wanting to steal Speedy Gonzales's sombrero.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (R256O)
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New York Magazine@NYMag
Donald Trump’s trade war and threats to absorb Canada as a U.S. state have fueled a fiery resistance up north. Americans don’t know the half of it.
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Dude, we're pointing and laughing as hard as we can.
Donald Trump’s trade war and threats to absorb Canada as a U.S. state have fueled a fiery resistance up north. Americans don’t know the half of it.
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Dude, we're pointing and laughing as hard as we can.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)
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No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. I'm referring solely to the categorical pardons, and that each name be approved.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. I'm referring solely to the categorical pardons, and that each name be approved.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (p16cu)
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Dude, you can't even remember how sex works.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
In fairness to Biden, he is married.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
In fairness to Biden, he is married.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (ExV1e)
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No, the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
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Another 'gift' of James Earl Carter, the pardoning of the draft dodgers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (6iQ9H)
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The important thing we need to ask though, how does this impact blacks.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
I'll need to consult Billy Paul...
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 14, 2025 12:49 PM (et1vG)
I'll need to consult Billy Paul...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (xcxpd)
161
"I made every decision," Mr. Biden said in a phone interview on Thursday...
An obvious but unprovable lie. Nothing will come of it. The System notches another win.
An obvious but unprovable lie. Nothing will come of it. The System notches another win.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (/y8xj)
162
Who you going to believe, noted truth teller Joe Biden or your own eyes?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (YwEeS)
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Rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version thru the autopen, which they saw as…routine
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
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I wonder if they ever gave FJB a stack of blank paperwork, told him to sign them, and then filled out the rest of the details later.
This is a hilarious myth. They didn't think it was routine, they knew Biden had tapioca for a brain and just ran things as they saw fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (dfIr7)
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I wonder if they ever gave FJB a stack of blank paperwork, told him to sign them, and then filled out the rest of the details later.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7fElN)
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I've forgotten, but did the reviews of past practice determine if any President in history had authorized autopen use for signing a pardon?
Even once?
Even once?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (NIwpn)
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153 151 Ah, that troll I know and recognize.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Me too, in time.
Hello retard, welcome back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Me too, in time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (xcxpd)
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The Autopen is the oldest, most commonly used signing machine. It has been used by universities, government agencies, and other institutions for more than 60 years. The Autopen machines provide high quality signature replication with any common pen, pencil, or marker. Their reliability is well established and the simple design combined with our telephone support results in minimum service costs.
https://damilic.com/autopen
The Autopen is the oldest, most commonly used signing machine. It has been used by universities, government agencies, and other institutions for more than 60 years. The Autopen machines provide high quality signature replication with any common pen, pencil, or marker. Their reliability is well established and the simple design combined with our telephone support results in minimum service costs.
https://damilic.com/autopen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (63Dwl)
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And, the idea that presidents are intimately familiar with any judicial nominee outside of the couple of weeks before nominating one for SCOTUS seems...misplaced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
Some powers may be delegated.
Others not so much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
Some powers may be delegated.
Others not so much.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (tm0oK)
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (DoOmQ)
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The Founders never thought someone as nakedly corrupt as Biden could become President.
Posted by: blaster at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (RoO7G)
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"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
"Here's the Fauci pardon, Mr. President."
"What?"
"Just say we can run this through the autopen, sir. It's the Fauci pardon."
"Huh?"
"Just say yes, sir."
"Yes, sir."
This would be "doing it right," by the way.
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
Posted by: radar o'riley at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (v3pYe)
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How do we know it really was Joey Bidet on the phone?
After all we have an AI bot using a recreation of James Earl Jone's voice for Darth Vader in a video game.
It was Otto Voice.
After all we have an AI bot using a recreation of James Earl Jone's voice for Darth Vader in a video game.
It was Otto Voice.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (6iQ9H)
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I wonder if they ever gave FJB a stack of blank paperwork, told him to sign them, and then filled out the rest of the details later.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7fElN)
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I think this is truly a "to ask is to answer" type question.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7fElN)
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I think this is truly a "to ask is to answer" type question.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (tT6L1)
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While I have never thought the president need personally and physically sign every individual pardon, I think the president must at least personally approve each name to be pardoned. Biden didn't do that.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (fCgdX)
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True, but "class pardons" are controversial and possibly not legal. They were never challenged. But even Carter's class pardon was the result of him agreeing to the specific class. That's not what happened with Biden. He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
That's not accurate.
"Draft dodgers" were pardoned as a class.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (fCgdX)
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True, but "class pardons" are controversial and possibly not legal. They were never challenged. But even Carter's class pardon was the result of him agreeing to the specific class. That's not what happened with Biden. He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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The Autopen is the oldest, most commonly used signing machine. It has been used by universities, government agencies, and other institutions for more than 60 years. The Autopen machines provide high quality signature replication with any common pen, pencil, or marker. Their reliability is well established and the simple design combined with our telephone support results in minimum service costs.
https://damilic.com/autopen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (63Dwl)
I'm sure that's all true. Now, let's get rid of it.
https://damilic.com/autopen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:53 PM (63Dwl)
I'm sure that's all true. Now, let's get rid of it.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (vd6bO)
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (DoOmQ)
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JoePedo was too busy to sign those pardons. He was in a frenzy spendi.... ah giving away taxpayer money and destroying the country. A man can only do so much in the 2-3 hours of work he did a week.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (17s+e)
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159 Another 'gift' of James Earl Carter, the pardoning of the draft dodgers.
draft giants > draft dodgers
draft giants > draft dodgers
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (g47mK)
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Surprising absolutely nobody.
Russia set to abandon refurbishment project and decommission their sole aircraft carrier, the world’s largest mobile bonfire, RFS Admiral Kuznetsov which has not sailed since 2017.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Russia set to abandon refurbishment project and decommission their sole aircraft carrier, the world’s largest mobile bonfire, RFS Admiral Kuznetsov which has not sailed since 2017.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)
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the old "signed off on the standards" ploy!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)
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The CS blade really makes a difference.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM
I have one carbon steel Sabatier that I got from my grandmother. I don't use it much, because I prefer German profile to French profile, but I can put an edge on that thing you can shave with.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM
I have one carbon steel Sabatier that I got from my grandmother. I don't use it much, because I prefer German profile to French profile, but I can put an edge on that thing you can shave with.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (dPfyF)
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True, but "class pardons" are controversial and possibly not legal. They were never challenged. But even Carter's class pardon was the result of him agreeing to the specific class. That's not what happened with Biden. He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Not so sure. Are not convicted possibly charged felons a class? And we all know they were democrats, is that not a class?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Not so sure. Are not convicted possibly charged felons a class? And we all know they were democrats, is that not a class?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (17s+e)
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the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Everyone along the line of authority will be saying "I got it from X and just forwarded it." That was Neera Tanden's story, and it will be up and down, always ending at Biden, who has already given his answer. Maybe this whole presidential pardon habit needs a second look.
the problem is using the autopen without authorization (since the use of the autopen is accepted, but I'd like to see it made illegal and declared unconstitutional for any government work). It's the without authorization part that's the problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Everyone along the line of authority will be saying "I got it from X and just forwarded it." That was Neera Tanden's story, and it will be up and down, always ending at Biden, who has already given his answer. Maybe this whole presidential pardon habit needs a second look.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (xp7+v)
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158 And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
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Which bumps up against the aides' own admissions that they changed things without his knowledge.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
Is it corrupt and shitty? Yes. But I don't see how anyone proves Biden DIDN'T authorize those pardons, especially when he says he did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
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Which bumps up against the aides' own admissions that they changed things without his knowledge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
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He signed off on nothing, they probably asked him if he wanted ice cream while he was watching Matlock, the answer of course being yes.
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (YwEeS)
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And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
Yeah but "authorized" is not sufficient. He has to carry them out, not some underling.
But it doesn't matter, nothing will be done about this except hopefully to make an official system by which nobody can legally do it again.
Yeah but "authorized" is not sufficient. He has to carry them out, not some underling.
But it doesn't matter, nothing will be done about this except hopefully to make an official system by which nobody can legally do it again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (dfIr7)
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Aaaaand good morning, happy Monday, and good to see you, ace!
Aaaaand good morning, happy Monday, and good to see you, ace!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (xp7+v)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ...
It's a shovel, dude.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ...
It's a shovel, dude.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (L/fGl)
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180 When a Robot Signs a Bill
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Damn robots!
https://is.gd/pqiF3a
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)
Yes, but can it do that with its pants halfway down its thighs while holding an HDTV?
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Damn robots!
https://is.gd/pqiF3a
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)
Yes, but can it do that with its pants halfway down its thighs while holding an HDTV?
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (vd6bO)
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Trump could have a website 'The Daily Epstein' , just leak a little every day.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (DoOmQ)
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 12:58 PM (poXs5)
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"If I were President Biden..."
LOL
DUmmies and their fan fiction.
If I were King of the forest...
"If I were President Biden..."
LOL
DUmmies and their fan fiction.
If I were King of the forest...
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (63Dwl)
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He signed off on nothing, they probably asked him if he wanted ice cream while he was watching Matlock, the answer of course being yes.
He was caught literally on camera saying "I don't even know what I am signing"
He was caught literally on camera saying "I don't even know what I am signing"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (dfIr7)
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Yeah about that "phone interview" can we hear it?
Posted by: steevy at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (YwEeS)
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Grok claims the practice of allowing pardons to be signed by autopen has been accepted for decades, except it also says no verified use of an autopen for a pardon has been discovered.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (3odGr)
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Fauci is the worst, most evil person in government in the last 50 years. Fight me
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I'd still say Hillary, and then perhaps "Joe Biden" (the figurehead for whatever we just spent 4 years suffering under), and then Joe Biden (the evil bastard that he was before becoming the senile president).
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I'd still say Hillary, and then perhaps "Joe Biden" (the figurehead for whatever we just spent 4 years suffering under), and then Joe Biden (the evil bastard that he was before becoming the senile president).
Posted by: Crusader at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (TN0g+)
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Russia set to abandon refurbishment project and decommission their sole aircraft carrier, the world’s largest mobile bonfire, RFS Admiral Kuznetsov which has not sailed since 2017.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
Bummer. Also, had nothing to do with Ukraine. The last time the Kuznetsov set out to sea, it was accompanied by a tow boat, most of the toilets didn't flush due to water issues, and when it sailed past Britain, it looked like it might have been burning peat moss for fuel with the amount of angry black smoke belching out of it.
It was a shitty ship built while the USSR was collapsing, and no one maintained it and it had problems from day one. The sister ship ended up in China, and had so many issues they just used it as a training ship.
Due to lack of funding, industrial problems and shortage of people - all largely consequence of Putins war in Ukraine.
https://is.gd/PONYm5
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Riz8t)
Bummer. Also, had nothing to do with Ukraine. The last time the Kuznetsov set out to sea, it was accompanied by a tow boat, most of the toilets didn't flush due to water issues, and when it sailed past Britain, it looked like it might have been burning peat moss for fuel with the amount of angry black smoke belching out of it.
It was a shitty ship built while the USSR was collapsing, and no one maintained it and it had problems from day one. The sister ship ended up in China, and had so many issues they just used it as a training ship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (uCjyK)
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"I see no problem with his intellect."
-Jasmine Crockett
Of course you wouldn't because yours makes Biden look like a rocket scientist.
-Jasmine Crockett
Of course you wouldn't because yours makes Biden look like a rocket scientist.
Posted by: Mike B at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Tvrrp)
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196 Grok claims the practice of allowing pardons to be signed by autopen has been accepted for decades, except it also says no verified use of an autopen for a pardon has been discovered.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (3odGr)
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The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
I believe that sounds like this reported Biden Junta practice is the first verified instance of a presidential pardon signed by autopen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 12:59 PM (3odGr)
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The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
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He didn't pardon a class. He pardoned names -- names that he admits he didn't personally review or approve. That's more problematic than what Carter did.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
Completely agree. I was just pointing out that a president doesn't have to (at least functionally doesn't have to) approve each individual name in every case.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
Completely agree. I was just pointing out that a president doesn't have to (at least functionally doesn't have to) approve each individual name in every case.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (fCgdX)
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And Biden is now on record saying he authorized the pardons.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
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But, he didn't say "my word as a biden."
If he had said that, then you could take it to the bank.
But by not saying it, I'm seeing a lot of room for doubt.
And he's still (legally) competent.
So there is nothing to be done about it.
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But, he didn't say "my word as a biden."
If he had said that, then you could take it to the bank.
But by not saying it, I'm seeing a lot of room for doubt.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Lo97M)
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This is actual treason
Posted by: Jupiter no rings mofo at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (bCQL5)
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I'm sure that's all true. Now, let's get rid of it.
I am okay with the president using one to sign stuff like those form letters they send out to kids, but not anything official.
I am okay with the president using one to sign stuff like those form letters they send out to kids, but not anything official.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (dfIr7)
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181 the old "signed off on the standards" ploy!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)
Can we see the "standards" with a signature?
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)
Can we see the "standards" with a signature?
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 01:01 PM (lPvx2)
207
I don't like Mondays
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:01 PM (+qU29)
208
According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
*******
She looks like she knows where the bodies are buried.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
*******
She looks like she knows where the bodies are buried.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:01 PM (poXs5)
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Russia's GDP is less than NYS, the fact that they can field an army at all is a major miracle, the fact they don't have a single sea worthy ACC is not surprising.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (XV/Pl)
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Bummer. Also, had nothing to do with Ukraine. The last time the Kuznetsov set out to sea, it was accompanied by a tow boat, most of the toilets didn't flush due to water issues, and when it sailed past Britain, it looked like it might have been burning peat moss for fuel with the amount of angry black smoke belching out of it.
We can disagree about the Ukraine part, but watching that thing at sea was hilarious. It looked like they were burning old tires.
We can disagree about the Ukraine part, but watching that thing at sea was hilarious. It looked like they were burning old tires.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (dfIr7)
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201 It's a shovel, dude.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
No, it's a half-moon edging tool.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
P.S. Nice gardening shoes.
No, it's a half-moon edging tool.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (xcxpd)
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Which bumps up against the aides' own admissions that they changed things without his knowledge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)
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You bastards just won't listen!
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (L/fGl)
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112 According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12: Un42 PM (Qr870)
I was kinda digging that picture.
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
What a ho
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12: Un42 PM (Qr870)
I was kinda digging that picture.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 01:03 PM (R256O)
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No, it's a half-moon edging tool.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
Dang, you're correct. This is not my day.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)
No, that's a normal shovel just at an angle...though I understand edging where Melania is concerned.
Dang, you're correct. This is not my day.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (Riz8t)
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gosh these shit pebbles are so good
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (NJLgD)
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If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
_-_-_-_
A statement like that from someone whose mental faculties were in serious question at the time just might not pass muster in a court.
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
_-_-_-_
A statement like that from someone whose mental faculties were in serious question at the time just might not pass muster in a court.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (vd6bO)
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We can disagree about the Ukraine part, but watching that thing at sea was hilarious. It looked like they were burning old tires.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
That ship was well past it's useful life, well, basically from when it was built, but certainly from well before the Ukraine war. It was barely functional when they decided to try to bring it back in to full time status in the fleet in the late '90s / early '00s, and has become less functional since then.
But yes, the videos were cringeworthy to watch. Did not make the Russian navy look competent or tough or whatever it is they were going for.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
That ship was well past it's useful life, well, basically from when it was built, but certainly from well before the Ukraine war. It was barely functional when they decided to try to bring it back in to full time status in the fleet in the late '90s / early '00s, and has become less functional since then.
But yes, the videos were cringeworthy to watch. Did not make the Russian navy look competent or tough or whatever it is they were going for.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (uCjyK)
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Pardon Power by the President implies as the 1789 Constitution saw it. We know Jefferson had an autopen but did he use it for Presidential signatures? When was it first used?
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (DoOmQ)
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@207
>>I don't like Mondays
Actually, Thursdays are the worst.
Monday's is when you find out all of the sh*t that's gone wrong from late last week/weekend and you can work on it.
Thursdays is when you have to do labor and resource planning and all the complications that entails.
>>I don't like Mondays
Actually, Thursdays are the worst.
Monday's is when you find out all of the sh*t that's gone wrong from late last week/weekend and you can work on it.
Thursdays is when you have to do labor and resource planning and all the complications that entails.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (XV/Pl)
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That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
I think it takes more than just a general "I said it was cool for him to sign for me" for important documents; the more important the more stringent.
I think it takes more than just a general "I said it was cool for him to sign for me" for important documents; the more important the more stringent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (dfIr7)
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Heh, I watched the end of Cocaine Bear. The wife and I enjoyed it. We will have to watch the front of the movie now. This was Ray Liotta's last performance. Loved that guy.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (W3T6M)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (vd6bO)
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Dear Drew Holden, THE PARTY IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
Posted by: The Party at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (Pce4l)
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A statement like that from someone whose mental faculties were in serious question at the time just might not pass muster in a court.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (vd6bO)
It is very difficult to be declared incompetent by a court, and even moreso to be declared incompetent for something you did years / months ago.
As you can imagine, this comes up quite a bit in the probate world.
Posted by: Don in SoCo who definitely sounds like a broken record at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (vd6bO)
It is very difficult to be declared incompetent by a court, and even moreso to be declared incompetent for something you did years / months ago.
As you can imagine, this comes up quite a bit in the probate world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (uCjyK)
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Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (NJLgD)
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Biden pardoned nearly 8000 people.
Stupid troll is stupid.
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Biden pardoned nearly 8000 people.
Stupid troll is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
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My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
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The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
The first use of autopen by a president for a government document was under Obama. Not even 2 decades, and that wasn't even a pardon.
AI is stupid because it's not actually intelligence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (3odGr)
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Joe's autopen should have a built-in ""pill-rolling" tremor...
...to add to the illusion of authenticity.
...to add to the illusion of authenticity.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (poXs5)
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CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (/y8xj)
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I think it all sort of gets to the idea of a bloated executive in general.
There's supposed to be A President. One person. They can hire advisors to do research and manage things and generally help out, but that one person should be calling all the shots.
But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
There's supposed to be A President. One person. They can hire advisors to do research and manage things and generally help out, but that one person should be calling all the shots.
But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (VoAdT)
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Remember how they managed Obama with the checkboxes?
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (JThEY)
remember the rumor that they tried to manage Trump the same way, and Trump's response was, "well, OK. A giant smoking crater is a positive outcome as far as I can see"
Three choices, the first and last being extreme but the middle, the one they wanted, was then comparably reasonable.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:33 PM (JThEY)
remember the rumor that they tried to manage Trump the same way, and Trump's response was, "well, OK. A giant smoking crater is a positive outcome as far as I can see"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (D7oie)
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228 My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
You’re wrong. It says so, right there in the Constitution.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
You’re wrong. It says so, right there in the Constitution.
Posted by: Some federal judge at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (Pce4l)
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And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (ExV1e)
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It is very difficult to be declared incompetent by a court, and even moreso to be declared incompetent for something you did years / months ago.
Probably impossible, barring an official admission by the doctor that he was incompetent in the past, which is likely why Biden's doctor is ducking a congressional subpoena.
Probably impossible, barring an official admission by the doctor that he was incompetent in the past, which is likely why Biden's doctor is ducking a congressional subpoena.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)
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229 That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (3odGr)
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W didn't use the autopen to sign any government document.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
As far as AI goes it doesn't need to be intelligent to do a review of news stories about past practice, which is what it did here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (3odGr)
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W didn't use the autopen to sign any government document.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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I think it takes more than just a general "I said it was cool for him to sign for me" for important documents; the more important the more stringent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (dfIr7)
Maybe it should work that way, but generally speaking it doesn't.
I don't know if there's any caselaw on this specific situation (governor or President delegating signing of a pardon to an underling), but I don't think a Court would create a whole new standard for this very rare and politically fraught of a situation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:05 PM (dfIr7)
Maybe it should work that way, but generally speaking it doesn't.
I don't know if there's any caselaw on this specific situation (governor or President delegating signing of a pardon to an underling), but I don't think a Court would create a whole new standard for this very rare and politically fraught of a situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)
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Call me crazy (many have) but I think the Preznit should literally, and by his own hand, sign the really important stuff.
I would allow the autopen for the Preznit's Christmas card list, post-it notes on the refrigerator, stuff like that.
I would allow the autopen for the Preznit's Christmas card list, post-it notes on the refrigerator, stuff like that.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (AOsQT)
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According to me, this is my my favorite picture of the First Lady
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
"Compost your enemies"
https://tinyurl.com/yxh87hte
Posted by: Don Black
"Compost your enemies"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (D7oie)
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But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
Take the military point of view. You can delegate authority but you CANNOT delegate responsibility.
But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
Take the military point of view. You can delegate authority but you CANNOT delegate responsibility.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Pce4l)
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Yup.
Yup.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (vd6bO)
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Da fuq?
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Biden pardoned or gave clemency to far more than any other president. Most of the people Trump pardoned were J6ers and should never have been charged at all.
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 459
George W. Bush 2001–2009 200
Barack Obama 2009–2017 1,927
Donald Trump 2017–2021, 2025–present 1,700 Includes approximately 1,500 pardoned for January 6 attacks (which, as we all know, were utter BS)
Joe Biden 2021–2025 4,245
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 459
George W. Bush 2001–2009 200
Barack Obama 2009–2017 1,927
Donald Trump 2017–2021, 2025–present 1,700 Includes approximately 1,500 pardoned for January 6 attacks (which, as we all know, were utter BS)
Joe Biden 2021–2025 4,245
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Riz8t)
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Writer's cramp shouldn't be a problem for the most powerful man in the world.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (AOsQT)
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If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)
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the 2005 DOJ guidance apparently requires contemporaneous written authorization to use the device, so I think you might be wrong in thinking an after-the-fact verbal statement would be enough.
That's all that would be required under contract law. I don't even know that a court would require that much under constitutional law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)
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the 2005 DOJ guidance apparently requires contemporaneous written authorization to use the device, so I think you might be wrong in thinking an after-the-fact verbal statement would be enough.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (3odGr)
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244 Joe Biden 2021–2025 4,245
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Riz8t)
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The Biden numbers are bigger than they appear.
This includes the classes of people we're talking about. Individualizing those takes it up to almost 8000.
https://is.gd/T0jQAZ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (Riz8t)
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The Biden numbers are bigger than they appear.
This includes the classes of people we're talking about. Individualizing those takes it up to almost 8000.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)
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> If this ever went in to a court room, all Biden has to say under oath is "I authorized my aide [XYZ] to sign these pardons on my behalf. I knew what was in them, and XYZ had my full authority to use my autopen to sign them."
I've been saying this for a while on this site and others. We all know that if and when Biden says this, it's a bald faced lie, but that doesn't matter. It'll be the end of the case.
I've been saying this for a while on this site and others. We all know that if and when Biden says this, it's a bald faced lie, but that doesn't matter. It'll be the end of the case.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
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Biden pardoned nearly 8000 people.
Stupid troll is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Stupid troll is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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This would be "doing it right," by the way.
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
Posted by: radar o'riley at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (v3pYe)
Lol. That must have been the last three years of his presidency.
Except in this case it's evil radar orielly
just take the standard requisition form, strike out where it says "machine gun" and write in "pardon".
Posted by: radar o'riley at July 14, 2025 12:54 PM (v3pYe)
Lol. That must have been the last three years of his presidency.
Except in this case it's evil radar orielly
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (OA79/)
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That isn't accurate, claims the internet, which says 2005 was first recorded use of a modern autopen device, under Bush.
There's a critical difference here: Bush used the modern autopen to make a signature, but it was not on an official document. Obama was the first to use the autopen to sign an official document (signing a bill into law). Presidents back as far as Jefferson have used a version of the autopen to sign things, but not things like bills, pardons, executive orders, etc. For pretty obvious reasons.
There's a critical difference here: Bush used the modern autopen to make a signature, but it was not on an official document. Obama was the first to use the autopen to sign an official document (signing a bill into law). Presidents back as far as Jefferson have used a version of the autopen to sign things, but not things like bills, pardons, executive orders, etc. For pretty obvious reasons.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (dfIr7)
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Mondays are ok.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (21WNI)
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It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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Oh, I'd forgotten that wet dream. Hot topic for about 3 hours in mid-January.
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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Oh, I'd forgotten that wet dream. Hot topic for about 3 hours in mid-January.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Da fuq?
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Were they drinking Mentos/Diet Coke cocktails at the time?
Walmart recalls 850,000 stainless steel water bottles after lids "forcefully eject," blind two people
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Were they drinking Mentos/Diet Coke cocktails at the time?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 01:11 PM (7fElN)
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Probably impossible, barring an official admission by the doctor that he was incompetent in the past, which is likely why Biden's doctor is ducking a congressional subpoena.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)
His personal doctor or personal lawyer getting on the stand saying "he was incompetent when he signed the pardons" would probably be at least somewhat persuasive, but even then, I don't think a court would undo those signatures, even if Biden was a nobody and the documents in question were for home equity loans or something else.
In the world of Wills, the standard for competence is something like the person understands they're making a will, they know generally what assets they have, and they can identify their closest heirs / family members.
It's a pretty low bar to be considered legally competent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)
His personal doctor or personal lawyer getting on the stand saying "he was incompetent when he signed the pardons" would probably be at least somewhat persuasive, but even then, I don't think a court would undo those signatures, even if Biden was a nobody and the documents in question were for home equity loans or something else.
In the world of Wills, the standard for competence is something like the person understands they're making a will, they know generally what assets they have, and they can identify their closest heirs / family members.
It's a pretty low bar to be considered legally competent.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)
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It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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There was only 1 autopen available. Else they might have.
It’s mad that he didn’t pardon everybody in federal prison.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (Pce4l)
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There was only 1 autopen available. Else they might have.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (tT6L1)
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214 You bastards just won't listen!
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (L/fGl)
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Temperatures have risen markedly in just the past 3-4 weeks.
CNN Analyst Stunned Most Americans Haven’t Believed the Climate Change Hoax for 25 Years
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (L/fGl)
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Temperatures have risen markedly in just the past 3-4 weeks.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (2ap+5)
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235 And the Supreme Court would rule in a way that resulted in nothing being reversed or punished, but from that point on requiring the president personally to sign impactful things like pardons and executive orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
_-_-_
...which would be a significant improvement even at that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 12:42 PM (dfIr7)
On camera. With someone, preferably the President, stating what it was that he was signing.
_-_-_
...which would be a significant improvement even at that.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:13 PM (vd6bO)
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So "autopen" now pretty much equates to a chop in imperial japan or china, then?
Whoever can get their hands on one has the full power of the emperor?
Neat.
Whoever can get their hands on one has the full power of the emperor?
Neat.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (VoAdT)
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Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
AI isn’t.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
AI isn’t.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (Pce4l)
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Here is how I see it. If the Constitution gives the president the power to do something, then he has to do it. Either he has to read and sign it personally, or he has to write it personally. He cannot delegate someone else to write and sign it with a general authorization because then the president is not doing it.
The Constitution does not permit the Executive Department to issue pardons any more than it does the department to sign legislation into law.
The Constitution does not permit the Executive Department to issue pardons any more than it does the department to sign legislation into law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (dfIr7)
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I've been saying this for a while on this site and others. We all know that if and when Biden says this, it's a bald faced lie, but that doesn't matter. It'll be the end of the case.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
Right. If he says "I authorized it", even if we all think he's lying, that's good enough.
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
Right. If he says "I authorized it", even if we all think he's lying, that's good enough.
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (D7oie)
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A capitalist at heart.
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (L/fGl)
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...which would be a significant improvement even at that.
it would be, and should be the case, and I hope they so rule
no it doesn't mitigate the damage done by the Dems here, but we are better off going forward
it would be, and should be the case, and I hope they so rule
no it doesn't mitigate the damage done by the Dems here, but we are better off going forward
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Constitution does not permit the Executive Department to issue pardons any more than it does the department to sign legislation into law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (dfIr7)
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You're overlooking the "Power of Attorney" clause in the Constitution.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (dfIr7)
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You're overlooking the "Power of Attorney" clause in the Constitution.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (tT6L1)
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262 Right. If he says "I authorized it", even if we all think he's lying, that's good enough.
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
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A court case over a specific person granted clemency, undone by Trump EO, that leads to an actual exchange of evidence where Biden can say, "I authorized everything," and his aide says, "I changed the terms of the batch and ran it through the autopen," is not an open and shut, "Well, Biden authorized it."
Unless a court takes the extraordinary step of saying he was incompetent during the last few years of his presidency, which would cause a constitutional crisis, and is not something courts are ever eager to do (both cause constitutional crisises and declaring people retroactively incompetent)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (uCjyK)
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A court case over a specific person granted clemency, undone by Trump EO, that leads to an actual exchange of evidence where Biden can say, "I authorized everything," and his aide says, "I changed the terms of the batch and ran it through the autopen," is not an open and shut, "Well, Biden authorized it."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
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I seem to remember Kennedy being the first or maybe Johnson. Something about being on an airplane when a document needed signing.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (lPvx2)
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232 But, of course, delegation happens. For better or worse, the job has become too big for one person to do on their own. At what point does that delegation become unconstitutional?
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
"this is chatgpt. everyone do what chatgpt says from now on."
"Put together a list of people who fit this description so I can pardon them all."
"You take point on running negotiations between East Trashcanistan and Barehandedasswipeland, i've got other things to do."
"This is Bob. Everyone do what Bob says from now on."
"this is chatgpt. everyone do what chatgpt says from now on."
Posted by: the slippery slope to landru at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (v3pYe)
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W didn't use the autopen to sign any government document.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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You're arguing with the worng person, take it up with Musk. And words like "stupid" or "intelligent" don't apply to AI. It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
His legal team explored the legality of it, but he never did it.
Again, Grok is stupid and can't even read well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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You're arguing with the worng person, take it up with Musk. And words like "stupid" or "intelligent" don't apply to AI. It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (PWqrv)
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270 You're arguing with the worng person, take it up with Musk. And words like "stupid" or "intelligent" don't apply to AI. It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (PWqrv)
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Primary sources > AI.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (PWqrv)
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Primary sources > AI.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
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In England, a significant period of history was "The Regency," from 1788 to 1820, when King George !!! was "intermittently" insane so Parliament basically took power away from him (without him really realizing it), while various functionaries, and later the Prince of Wales, ran the country in his stead.
Biden's term in office was basically The American Regency, with a demented leader occasionally remembering that he's the president, while meanwhile his underlings and family members ran the nation.
But in England this was openly acknowledged and is an official period of history. In America, we live in a web of lies, and the media and the intelligentsia won't even admit it happened.
Biden's term in office was basically The American Regency, with a demented leader occasionally remembering that he's the president, while meanwhile his underlings and family members ran the nation.
But in England this was openly acknowledged and is an official period of history. In America, we live in a web of lies, and the media and the intelligentsia won't even admit it happened.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (pMi6S)
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That ship was well past it's useful life
The age of the carrier, in a conflict between peers, is likely over. It's useful as a mobile air base when dealing with minor powers but Russia isn't concerned about maintaining SLOC so there's no reason to hang on to an expense.
The age of the carrier, in a conflict between peers, is likely over. It's useful as a mobile air base when dealing with minor powers but Russia isn't concerned about maintaining SLOC so there's no reason to hang on to an expense.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (ExV1e)
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His personal doctor or personal lawyer getting on the stand saying "he was incompetent when he signed the pardons" would probably be at least somewhat persuasive, but even then, I don't think a court would undo those signatures, even if Biden was a nobody and the documents in question were for home equity loans or something else.
Unfortunately, the way things are, the more impactful an act, the sloppier the requirements and response. The president kicks a dog: probably impeached. The president signs an executive order telling the DOJ to send powerful weapons to Cartels hoping they will kill enough Americans to move the culture to ban guns? We can't do anything about that, it would be too damaging to our very way of life!"
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Unfortunately, the way things are, the more impactful an act, the sloppier the requirements and response. The president kicks a dog: probably impeached. The president signs an executive order telling the DOJ to send powerful weapons to Cartels hoping they will kill enough Americans to move the culture to ban guns? We can't do anything about that, it would be too damaging to our very way of life!"
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (dfIr7)
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Just think what a political party could accomplish at the ballot box with a handful of strategically placed autopens.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (poXs5)
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Something tells me Sarbanes Oxley was written excluding government. Because under that disaster of a bill all executives are liable for their functionary's malfeasance.
SarBox should apply to all parts of the country or none at all.
SarBox should apply to all parts of the country or none at all.
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (mlg/3)
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Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Original story: Godzilla has left Japan and is advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco three months from now.
Updated, more convincing story: TEN GODZILLAS have left Japan and are advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco ONE MONTH from now.
Obviously because they haven't talked about enough or in dire enough terms. I'm sure they'll be correcting that real soon now.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Original story: Godzilla has left Japan and is advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco three months from now.
Updated, more convincing story: TEN GODZILLAS have left Japan and are advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco ONE MONTH from now.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (xp7+v)
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It is very useful in some tasks, I would argue, and reviewing accumulated data is certainly one such.
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Yup. A very nice interface to very large datasets. A true timesaver, but not a "thinker".
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Yup. A very nice interface to very large datasets. A true timesaver, but not a "thinker".
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (vd6bO)
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My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
Reality suggests that your understanding is incorrect.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+qU29)
Reality suggests that your understanding is incorrect.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)
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You're overlooking the "Power of Attorney" clause in the Constitution.
Is that the same section as the Good n Plenty clause?
Is that the same section as the Good n Plenty clause?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (dfIr7)
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A capitalist at heart.
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (L/fGl)
The EU is going to have to borrow US Dollars to afford them, since the Euro is decreasing in value, and the chances that the EU as an economy is going to increase enough in the face of their net-zero and social welfare increases to afford non inflationary Euros is pretty slim
Oh, and THEY HAVE TO PAY POWELL'S HIGH INTEREST RATE!!!!!
How does "we can censor anyone anywhere anyhow and fine foreign companies if we feel like it" feel now, Queen Ursula?
Trump makes deal for NATO to buy weapons from us instead of getting them for free
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:14 PM (L/fGl)
The EU is going to have to borrow US Dollars to afford them, since the Euro is decreasing in value, and the chances that the EU as an economy is going to increase enough in the face of their net-zero and social welfare increases to afford non inflationary Euros is pretty slim
Oh, and THEY HAVE TO PAY POWELL'S HIGH INTEREST RATE!!!!!
How does "we can censor anyone anywhere anyhow and fine foreign companies if we feel like it" feel now, Queen Ursula?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (D7oie)
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I’m a Christian man, but even God had his limits. These people knowingly and with malice usurped the office of our president, that is, the office of the people, corrupted the entire government for their purposes, and then pardoned the people involved with stealing our liberty and undermining the constitution. There are a lot of people who paid the price for that with their lives, careers and livelihoods. If you’re in that generation, you will never forget this, nor should you. It’s just one reason amongst many the Democrat Party should never have power again.
In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 01:19 PM (ofdHm)
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No rest for the weary
Have a great afternoon everyone
Have a great afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (+qU29)
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Someone should make a Netflix series about the Biden era White House, but everyone is wearing 1810's fashions like in a Jane Austen novel.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (pMi6S)
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Pixy earlier in the year:
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. Perhaps you remember earlier this year when a trailer for Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis was pulled because it contained fabricated quotes from critics. A generative AI, not identified, had made them up. In fact, ChatGPT is often "entirely wrong," according to the Columbia Journalism Review. Given 200 quotes and asked to identify the publisher that was the source of those quotes, ChatGPT was partially or entirely wrong more than three-quarters of the time. Journalists, being journalists, asked ChatGPT to do their research for them.
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. Perhaps you remember earlier this year when a trailer for Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis was pulled because it contained fabricated quotes from critics. A generative AI, not identified, had made them up. In fact, ChatGPT is often "entirely wrong," according to the Columbia Journalism Review. Given 200 quotes and asked to identify the publisher that was the source of those quotes, ChatGPT was partially or entirely wrong more than three-quarters of the time. Journalists, being journalists, asked ChatGPT to do their research for them.
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DJPFk)
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Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Two Americas.
You as a normie will face more severe consequences for going 5 MPH over the speed limit then Obama will for arming cartels or Biden for mandating a poison shot.
But it isn't really about "two big to fail". Its whether you are connected or not
Two Americas.
You as a normie will face more severe consequences for going 5 MPH over the speed limit then Obama will for arming cartels or Biden for mandating a poison shot.
But it isn't really about "two big to fail". Its whether you are connected or not
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (t0Rmr)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
Yes it is. It doesn't matter what his aides say, all that matters is that Biden say "I authorized those signatures."
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)
Yes it is. It doesn't matter what his aides say, all that matters is that Biden say "I authorized those signatures."
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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ConLaw question/thought experiment....
Imagine a president issued a blanket standing order that anything Congress can manage to get to his desk is automatically signed, regardless of content?
Any bill that gets to his office goes straight into the autopen and gets a signature.
Would that be allowed? Would the courts reject it? Would the courts be -able- to reject it?
Is that really fundamentally different than a President saying "Whatever pardons you monkeys can crank out of your sick little imaginations have my blessing"?
At what point is "The President said it's cool" no longer enough of a hook on which to hang the official affairs of the executive branch?
Imagine a president issued a blanket standing order that anything Congress can manage to get to his desk is automatically signed, regardless of content?
Any bill that gets to his office goes straight into the autopen and gets a signature.
Would that be allowed? Would the courts reject it? Would the courts be -able- to reject it?
Is that really fundamentally different than a President saying "Whatever pardons you monkeys can crank out of your sick little imaginations have my blessing"?
At what point is "The President said it's cool" no longer enough of a hook on which to hang the official affairs of the executive branch?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (VoAdT)
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Nice to see NYT go super-formal when it comes to Biden's name, like that's going to make things better somehow.
Posted by: Octochicken at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (oCS0o)
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Won't somebody think of the tamales?
Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
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If Elon Musk wants to do some good, he should back the removal of these pardons and the prosecution of people like Fauci.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (ofdHm)
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Trump should issue pardons for all federal tax cases during his term. Tell Everybody to stop paying any fed taxes and let The Autopen do it's Constitutional duty.
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (28cZF)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (DJPFk)
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I’m a Christian man, but even God had his limits.
Indeed. But it's not up to us to say where they are.
Indeed. But it's not up to us to say where they are.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (/y8xj)
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My understanding is a aide doesn't get the Presidential right to make pardons
I think pretty much everyone understands it that way, but barring some official statement or law passed by congress, effectively, there's nothing to stop a president from delegating everything. Or having it delegated for them.
I think pretty much everyone understands it that way, but barring some official statement or law passed by congress, effectively, there's nothing to stop a president from delegating everything. Or having it delegated for them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:21 PM (dfIr7)
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Primary sources > AI.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
What is this whole primary source kick you are suddenly on? Is it a meme? Are you making a meme?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
What is this whole primary source kick you are suddenly on? Is it a meme? Are you making a meme?
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (Qr870)
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287 Yes it is. It doesn't matter what his aides say, all that matters is that Biden say "I authorized those signatures."
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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You're applying contract law to a constitutional question.
Why do you keep doing that?
The power of pardon is plenary in the president, not his aides who admit to changing things and not getting clearance from the president.
In the same way if your wife signs your name on a credit card receipt and the credit card company says "did you authorize this?" and you say "yes" it doesn't matter if you later discovered she bought twice as many shoes as you thought she did unless you call the credit card company back and say "actually, my wife, acting as my agent, went beyond the scope of her authority and bought 2 pairs of flats when I only authorized one pair of flats." And even then, the CC company would almost certainly want to see the police report you filed against your wife.
If you don't say "I didn't authorize that!" then the assumption is that you did, especially if you publicly and openly say you did.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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You're applying contract law to a constitutional question.
Why do you keep doing that?
The power of pardon is plenary in the president, not his aides who admit to changing things and not getting clearance from the president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Nood. Kolleg.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)
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Someone should make a Netflix series about the Biden era White House, but everyone is wearing 1810's fashions like in a Jane Austen novel.
Oh verily has anyone seen my snuff box? And Lady Biden please do not tell me you "found" it in your unmentionables again.
Oh verily has anyone seen my snuff box? And Lady Biden please do not tell me you "found" it in your unmentionables again.
Posted by: Baron Hunter Biden facing the viscountess of life at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (t0Rmr)
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282 I’m a Christian man...
...In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
Posted by: Marcus T
While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
...In a just and right world we would be preparing the crucifixion for these people.
Posted by: Marcus T
While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (pMi6S)
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The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
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I'll take Things That Never Happened and/or Incomplete Stories for 500, Alex
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I'll take Things That Never Happened and/or Incomplete Stories for 500, Alex
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 01:23 PM (Qr870)
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The power of pardon is plenary in the president...
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Can antibiotics fix this plenary thing?
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Can antibiotics fix this plenary thing?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 01:23 PM (W3T6M)
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Updated, more convincing story: TEN GODZILLAS have left Japan and are advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco ONE MONTH from now.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I alone apparently remember that the West Coast US was going to be devastated by nooklear fallout from Fukushima. In 2008.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I alone apparently remember that the West Coast US was going to be devastated by nooklear fallout from Fukushima. In 2008.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 01:23 PM (mlg/3)
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Unfortunately, the way things are, the more impactful an act, the sloppier the requirements and response. The president kicks a dog: probably impeached. The president signs an executive order telling the DOJ to send powerful weapons to Cartels hoping they will kill enough Americans to move the culture to ban guns? We can't do anything about that, it would be too damaging to our very way of life!"
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (dfIr7)
Cynical take, but certainly some truth in that.
And don't get me wrong, I think everyone in government and banking and big business should be held to the same standards as the rest of us, if not higher standards. If the bank lost the physical note proving you owe them money, that certainly sounds like it's the banks problem and not mine.
But unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.
Its like the housing collapse. Big companies doing horrendous and stupid things cannot be punished, they're too big!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:17 PM (dfIr7)
Cynical take, but certainly some truth in that.
And don't get me wrong, I think everyone in government and banking and big business should be held to the same standards as the rest of us, if not higher standards. If the bank lost the physical note proving you owe them money, that certainly sounds like it's the banks problem and not mine.
But unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (uCjyK)
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The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
yay!
hey Dave loads of peeps can make tamales
yay!
hey Dave loads of peeps can make tamales
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (Pv3Rg)
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"President Mush Brain was right there in WH when most of the pardons were produced.
Why not just sign them"
Exactly. It's not like he was solving world hunger or bringing about world peace or anything. I mean, he was awake at least 4 hours a day (I think). Give the old bastard something to do.
Why not just sign them"
Exactly. It's not like he was solving world hunger or bringing about world peace or anything. I mean, he was awake at least 4 hours a day (I think). Give the old bastard something to do.
Posted by: Mike B at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (Tvrrp)
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But it isn't really about "two big to fail". Its whether you are connected or not
And it always has been that way. And probably always should. But its violently opposed to the American ideal and dream.
And it always has been that way. And probably always should. But its violently opposed to the American ideal and dream.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (dfIr7)
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While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
The Romans crucified a lot of people who weren't at all tied to Christianity.
When they crushed Spartacus's revolt they crucified thousands of prisoners along the Appian way. Speaking of which...never surrender to the Romans, better to die with a sword in your face...
The Romans crucified a lot of people who weren't at all tied to Christianity.
When they crushed Spartacus's revolt they crucified thousands of prisoners along the Appian way. Speaking of which...never surrender to the Romans, better to die with a sword in your face...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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>Original story: Godzilla has left Japan and is advancing across the floor of the Pacific Ocean, ETA in San Francisco three months from now.
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So, Godzilla can't swim.
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So, Godzilla can't swim.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 01:24 PM (AOsQT)
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But in England this was openly acknowledged and is an official period of history. In America, we live in a web of lies, and the media and the intelligentsia won't even admit it happened.
Posted by: zombie
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Henry VI as well. He went practically catatonic for a while.
Posted by: zombie
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Henry VI as well. He went practically catatonic for a while.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (p16cu)
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Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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She had a good run, and now the jig's up.
Dave Matt@davematt88
The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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She had a good run, and now the jig's up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (xp7+v)
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>> While I agree with you 100% politically, on theological terms, if we crucify them, wouldn't elevate them to the status of saintly martyrs and saviors?
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (pMi6S)
The Roman Army used crucifixion because it was a brutal, painful, drawn out and almost inhuman death. The fact that is was used on Jesus Christ and other martyrs is simple consequential and religiously insignificant.
Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2025 01:22 PM (pMi6S)
The Roman Army used crucifixion because it was a brutal, painful, drawn out and almost inhuman death. The fact that is was used on Jesus Christ and other martyrs is simple consequential and religiously insignificant.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (ofdHm)
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The woman who sells tamales in my neighborhood has been deported.
Lefty boards are full of people complaining they had their landscaper/nanny deported...
Lefty boards are full of people complaining they had their landscaper/nanny deported...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:25 PM (t0Rmr)
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Pixy earlier in the year:
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. ...
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DJPFk)
Also see Pixy's Daily Tech News from Saturday July 12:
"The problem is that AI is helpful when you don't know what you are doing - coincidentally in precisely the situations where you are unable to judge how useful they are.
When you know what you are doing, they are of less value. Of less than no value, on average.
So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct."
With Joe Biden's recent pardoning of his catspaw son Hunter, journalists were driven to defend him by digging up the little-known pardons of family members by former presidents, like George H. W. Bush's pardoning of his son Neil, or Woodrow Wilson's pardon for his brother-in-law. The problem is, these things never happened.Whatever happened in this case, there's a running pattern of people relying on ChatGPT or other AI services to provide answers, only to get hallucinations in return. ...
ChatGPT, being ChatGPT, lied.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DJPFk)
Also see Pixy's Daily Tech News from Saturday July 12:
"The problem is that AI is helpful when you don't know what you are doing - coincidentally in precisely the situations where you are unable to judge how useful they are.
When you know what you are doing, they are of less value. Of less than no value, on average.
So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct."
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 01:26 PM (wVcYX)
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If the bank lost the physical note proving you owe them money, that certainly sounds like it's the banks problem and not mine.
Yeah, like those cases where a bank accidentally gives you more money than you actually have. They screwed up, yes, but if you spend the money... you should not have to pay it back. Its effectively a contract, I tell you the truth, you tell me the truth. If I mess up and write a check too big for my account, its MY fault and I have to back it. If the bank writes a check too big for my account, its on them too -- or it should be.
Yeah, like those cases where a bank accidentally gives you more money than you actually have. They screwed up, yes, but if you spend the money... you should not have to pay it back. Its effectively a contract, I tell you the truth, you tell me the truth. If I mess up and write a check too big for my account, its MY fault and I have to back it. If the bank writes a check too big for my account, its on them too -- or it should be.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (dfIr7)
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I think if someone really does some research they'll find that the radicals were, pretty much, running the show. There are inklings of this in some of the Agency policies that popped up of a substantive nature without comment from the White House until after someone noticed and made some noise.
A good example, I think, is when the US Consumer Product Safety office decided that they were going to ban gas stoves. The White House only got involved when the feedback was so negative and it became a story and they had to do damage control.
Instance like that suggest that everyone was trying to slip through their pet issues, and Biden had no clue what was going on. I have no doubt that his radical advisors were cheering on some of these issues behind the scenes.
A good example, I think, is when the US Consumer Product Safety office decided that they were going to ban gas stoves. The White House only got involved when the feedback was so negative and it became a story and they had to do damage control.
Instance like that suggest that everyone was trying to slip through their pet issues, and Biden had no clue what was going on. I have no doubt that his radical advisors were cheering on some of these issues behind the scenes.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (dIske)
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The Roman Army used crucifixion because it was a brutal, painful, drawn out and almost inhuman death. The fact that is was used on Jesus Christ and other martyrs is simple consequential and religiously insignificant.
I ran across an interesting note that Carthage used it as well, often on defeated generals which was not a particularly good choice since if you faced any real possibility of defeat why would you fight?
I ran across an interesting note that Carthage used it as well, often on defeated generals which was not a particularly good choice since if you faced any real possibility of defeat why would you fight?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)
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Autopen shit my pants!
Posted by: President Joe at July 14, 2025 01:29 PM (Vu7A1)
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Japan should rename one of its aircraft carriers to JS Godzilla.
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 01:30 PM (g47mK)
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Yup. A very nice interface to very large datasets. A true timesaver, but not a "thinker".
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (vd6bO)
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well stated. We also use it for what might otherwise be described as "machine learning" tasks, in our software business. For example, we set up individually unique image recognition tasks (templates really) using an AI, where we have trained it using thousands of similar such tasks previously set up by programmers. It's been fantastic for this purpose.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 01:18 PM (vd6bO)
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well stated. We also use it for what might otherwise be described as "machine learning" tasks, in our software business. For example, we set up individually unique image recognition tasks (templates really) using an AI, where we have trained it using thousands of similar such tasks previously set up by programmers. It's been fantastic for this purpose.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 01:30 PM (LkicY)
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I think if someone really does some research they'll find that the radicals were, pretty much, running the show. There are inklings of this in some of the Agency policies that popped up of a substantive nature without comment from the White House until after someone noticed and made some noise.
In a way, we were saved a lot of horrors by that. Anyone who has suffered through or seen footage of a meeting with these lunatics knows that they are constantly infighting, blocking each other, finding reasons why someone else's idea is evil, and so on.
Conflicting sects in the radical lefts secular religion fighting each other kept them from doing as much damage as they may have.
In a way, we were saved a lot of horrors by that. Anyone who has suffered through or seen footage of a meeting with these lunatics knows that they are constantly infighting, blocking each other, finding reasons why someone else's idea is evil, and so on.
Conflicting sects in the radical lefts secular religion fighting each other kept them from doing as much damage as they may have.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2025 01:32 PM (dfIr7)
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They just, more or less, admitted that the pardons were fake.
Am I missing something here? You can't discuss broad categories of pardons, and have other people figure out who that applies to, make a list, then sign your name.
Am I missing something here? You can't discuss broad categories of pardons, and have other people figure out who that applies to, make a list, then sign your name.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 14, 2025 01:34 PM (gDhA9)
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Simple way to confirm the pardons are legit... just ask each recipient for the receipt for their pardon fee, signed by Joe or Jill, of course. No problem.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 14, 2025 02:01 PM (PQOq3)
THE MORNING RANT: Forsaking Further Conservative Victories Because of “Epstein Disappointment” is not Principled, It’s Surrender
Count me among the people who would very much like to see justice come to everyone who committed a crime in their association with Jeffrey Epstein. If there are any lists, files, documents, etc. that would incriminate the powerful and politically connected, I want them released. But I also fear that whatever evidence existed has likely been destroyed, and that the lore regarding “Epstein Island” may exceed the actual crimes.
That said, I refuse to join in with those seeking to blow up the Trump administration out of frustration that an “Epstein list” is not being released. Dating back to President Obama’s weaponization of government against his political enemies, I despair about the lack of accountability and consequences for those who so egregiously violated the public’s trust. From Lois Lerner to Anthony Fauci to the government employees pushing the Russia collusion hoax in an effort to overthrow Trump in his first term, I am extremely frustrated about the lack of accountability. I want prosecutions. But I also still want political victories wherever I can get them, and my frustration about the lack of prosecutions does not mean we should suspend the MAGA agenda. The same sentiment applies to the Epstein situation. Quite simply, be it Fauci or Epstein, I want these people prosecuted for their crimes. But irrespective of them being prosecuted or not, I still want my political priorities advanced. As I documented here a few days ago, the One Big Beautiful Bill that was just signed into law kneecapped green energy and has effectively defunded the “EV Transition.” The first six months of Trump 47’s presidency has seen the most dramatic rollback of big-government in my lifetime, and President Trump is also vigorously fighting the culture war too. This all correlates very closely to something I just wrote about at The Blaze. For decades, the phony “budget hawks” of the Republican establishment (e.g. Paul Ryan and his ilk) used “the deficit crisis” as an excuse to spike the conservative agenda. The gimmick was that nothing that America-first/cultural conservatives sought could be pursued legislatively until the budget crisis was fixed. But they also ensured that no fixes could be made, because the first cut they talked about was always to social security and Medicare, not cutting the low hanging fruit that Doge just tackled. Paul Ryan and his fellow establishmentarians never did anything to actually cut government, they just served to protect the swamp by having us feel we were projecting great principles while actually surrendering to the establishment. The “conservative” opposition to the One Big Beautiful Bill tried to exploit our principles the same way. They failed. Conservatism advanced and government is being rolled back. In summary, we cannot let frustration about Epstein cause us to stop the momentum of President Trump. Here is my piece at The Blaze, “The Budget Hoax That Nearly Sank Trump’s Biggest Win.” It’s behind a paywall, but as always, if you are a subscriber to The Blaze, I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.Too many conservatives have fallen for the “budget hawk hoax” for far too long, accepting that we cannot have any conservative victories so long as we have a national debt. Perhaps that day has finally ended. Yes, our country’s fiscal crisis is real, and it will persist. But forsaking any victories over the left because of the deficit is not a matter of high principle. It’s simply surrender.
My latest at The Blaze: "Budget hawks" have killed conservative legislation for decades, arguing that no conservative gains of any kind can pass Congress until the deficit is fixed. It's all a con job, but Republicans didn't fall for the hoax this time.https://t.co/0e19WV3tqm
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) July 12, 2025
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (N1DT3)
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (+bLMA)
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Count me among the people who would very much like to see festive little hats.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (PkYxy)
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THIS
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 11:02 AM (GbwPZ)
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Good points.
Republicans/Conservatives too often make the perfect the enemy of the good.
That's where Elon is, as well.
(However, we don't need to accept "the bad" like Murkowski and her ilk.)
Republicans/Conservatives too often make the perfect the enemy of the good.
That's where Elon is, as well.
(However, we don't need to accept "the bad" like Murkowski and her ilk.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:02 AM (N1DT3)
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Well said, Buck
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 11:02 AM (jZAMu)
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I'm Cicero and I endorse this post.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (dDmld)
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I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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Republicans/Conservatives too often make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
How do you do, ma'am~?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
How do you do, ma'am~?
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (mlg/3)
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The Epstein Trump hate is a leftist psyop.
Period.
On the conservative sites I frequent, even here, the coordinate low post "true MAGA" concern trolls being concerned is pretty transparent.
Do. Not. Fall. For. It.
Period.
On the conservative sites I frequent, even here, the coordinate low post "true MAGA" concern trolls being concerned is pretty transparent.
Do. Not. Fall. For. It.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (17s+e)
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The left, and their handmaids on the 'right', have gotten very good at making emotional appeals which people will latch onto and follow that squirrel as the avalanche they care more about slides a bit further down the mountain.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:05 AM (ExV1e)
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8 I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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It's weird how 18 months is an eternity in politics except for whatever is dominating an individual's social media feed at the moment.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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It's weird how 18 months is an eternity in politics except for whatever is dominating an individual's social media feed at the moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:05 AM (GBKbO)
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But NO IRISH!
Posted by: Olson Johnson at July 14, 2025 11:05 AM (dDmld)
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The deficit issue had some really stupid arguments.
When asked about cutting the things that people REALLY support cutting, the "conservatives" in the GOPe responded that "cutting things like foreign aid is the equivalent of cutting out a cup of coffee per day when you are overspending $10K a week!"
Ok, I'll grant them that it isn't the solution. BUT IF YOU WON'T EVEN CUT OUT THE CUP OF COFFEE, you're never going to fix the problem. Start with what's easy, THEN go to what's hard.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
When asked about cutting the things that people REALLY support cutting, the "conservatives" in the GOPe responded that "cutting things like foreign aid is the equivalent of cutting out a cup of coffee per day when you are overspending $10K a week!"
Ok, I'll grant them that it isn't the solution. BUT IF YOU WON'T EVEN CUT OUT THE CUP OF COFFEE, you're never going to fix the problem. Start with what's easy, THEN go to what's hard.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (N1DT3)
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Politics is the art of compromise.
It's rare that one side gets 100% of what it wants (unless it's Democrats getting the Collins/Murkowski/Romney wing of the GOPe to vote along with them).
It's rare that one side gets 100% of what it wants (unless it's Democrats getting the Collins/Murkowski/Romney wing of the GOPe to vote along with them).
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (Ovc06)
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>> That said, I refuse to join in with those seeking to blow up the Trump administration out of frustration that an “Epstein list” is not being released.
Yes, but also -- this was a big part of Trump's promising to take on the Deep State.
And he spoke about it a lot. As did Kash, Bondi and Bongino. All people in power to reveal what the government has.
And they could have said "whatever once existed seems to have been destroyed." Fine. Find out who destroyed it and go after them.
But they're not saying that. They're saying, with full confidence, that there is no "list" and there are no videos, despite Pam Bondi saying the exact opposite 4 or 5 months ago. So they're clearly lying to us about something that could very likely be the biggest political scandal in recent history.
That's not a good look, and a lot of people do feel betrayed by it.
That's not to say Kamala would have been a better president, but also, I don't get how we're supposed to move on from this. It's like HW's "read my lips: no new taxes" pledge. Or Wilsons "I'll keep us out of war" pledge. Etc. etc.
Yes, but also -- this was a big part of Trump's promising to take on the Deep State.
And he spoke about it a lot. As did Kash, Bondi and Bongino. All people in power to reveal what the government has.
And they could have said "whatever once existed seems to have been destroyed." Fine. Find out who destroyed it and go after them.
But they're not saying that. They're saying, with full confidence, that there is no "list" and there are no videos, despite Pam Bondi saying the exact opposite 4 or 5 months ago. So they're clearly lying to us about something that could very likely be the biggest political scandal in recent history.
That's not a good look, and a lot of people do feel betrayed by it.
That's not to say Kamala would have been a better president, but also, I don't get how we're supposed to move on from this. It's like HW's "read my lips: no new taxes" pledge. Or Wilsons "I'll keep us out of war" pledge. Etc. etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (uCjyK)
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How do you do, ma'am~?
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (mlg/3)
That's unfair to the libertarians. They also make the insane the enemy of the good.
Posted by: every libertarian at July 14, 2025 11:04 AM (mlg/3)
That's unfair to the libertarians. They also make the insane the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (N1DT3)
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The Epstein Trump hate is a leftist psyop.
You mean all the social media stars who didn't much care about the issue before but now say that TRUMP HAS ABANDONED MAGA are being disingenuous? I bet you said that while Trump was having hundreds of thousands of troops sent to Iran also.
You mean all the social media stars who didn't much care about the issue before but now say that TRUMP HAS ABANDONED MAGA are being disingenuous? I bet you said that while Trump was having hundreds of thousands of troops sent to Iran also.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (ExV1e)
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Epstein is dead.
Maxwell is in jail.
The statute of limitations has run on probably every crime committed in the videos.
At best, shame is possible at this point for the shameless.
Diddy's case shows the likelihood anyone convicts anyone powerful for any sex trafficking or rape crimes, even if you could make the statute somehow expand.
Would it be nice to know - sure.
Don't we already suspect anyway - yes.
In the grand scheme, do I want to know over practically any other pro-life and pro-middle class priorities - no.
In the grand scheme, would I rather they out the deep state destroyers (like they did with the fake leak) b/c they could continue to damage us vs Epstein who is dead and can cause no further damage - yes.
Maxwell is in jail.
The statute of limitations has run on probably every crime committed in the videos.
At best, shame is possible at this point for the shameless.
Diddy's case shows the likelihood anyone convicts anyone powerful for any sex trafficking or rape crimes, even if you could make the statute somehow expand.
Would it be nice to know - sure.
Don't we already suspect anyway - yes.
In the grand scheme, do I want to know over practically any other pro-life and pro-middle class priorities - no.
In the grand scheme, would I rather they out the deep state destroyers (like they did with the fake leak) b/c they could continue to damage us vs Epstein who is dead and can cause no further damage - yes.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (tOcjL)
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I really don't care about the Epstein stuff. Yes, if crimes were committed they should be prosecuted.
I just don't think it will ever happen. The clue is, if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
I just don't think it will ever happen. The clue is, if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (6eOSv)
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"But I also still want political victories wherever I can get them, and my frustration about the lack of prosecutions does not mean we should suspend the MAGA agenda."
"Lack of prosecutions." Anyone who thought there would be a single arrest -- let along prosecution -- of any of the Biden-era criminals is smoking alien hopeium.
"Lack of prosecutions." Anyone who thought there would be a single arrest -- let along prosecution -- of any of the Biden-era criminals is smoking alien hopeium.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is 'in good shape' amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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22 Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is 'in good shape' amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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It's one of the problems with conspiracy... I won't say theories, but more the conspiracy mindset. It seem to lend itself to an all or nothing approach. You want a war of annihilation where all family business is settled in a single, glorious day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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One of the few times that I wished that the HQ had a like button. My sentiments exactly and Nova Local summed it up at #19.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (2NHgQ)
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That's unfair to the libertarians. They also make the insane the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (N1DT3)
(e.g. "ALL DRUGS LEGALIZED AND FULLY OPEN BORDER!"
"But even if that all worked as you believe it would, it CAN'T work while we have a welfare state, according to your own philosophy."
"SHUT UP STATIST!")
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (N1DT3)
(e.g. "ALL DRUGS LEGALIZED AND FULLY OPEN BORDER!"
"But even if that all worked as you believe it would, it CAN'T work while we have a welfare state, according to your own philosophy."
"SHUT UP STATIST!")
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (N1DT3)
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24 It's one of the problems with conspiracy... I won't say theories, but more the conspiracy mindset. It seem to lend itself to an all or nothing approach. You want a war of annihilation where all family business is settled in a single, glorious day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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"I know exactly what the FBI has hidden in its vaults, and anyone who says anything in opposition to what I think is in there has been bought off."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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"I know exactly what the FBI has hidden in its vaults, and anyone who says anything in opposition to what I think is in there has been bought off."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Ok, I'll grant them that it isn't the solution. BUT IF YOU WON'T EVEN CUT OUT THE CUP OF COFFEE, you're never going to fix the problem. Start with what's easy, THEN go to what's hard.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (N1DT3)
That's a related issue, but completely true. Paul Ryan and his team of "wonks" (remember that term) scoured the entire federal budget and determined there was absolutely nothing they could cut. The only deficit reduction that could be done would be by raising the social security retirement age. Which is clearly
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Would people be willing to sacrifice a bit on social security if the government first cut massively in to their own spending? Probably. But Paul Ryan found a way to ensure zero cuts would happen, and instead the deficit continued to grow. That would indicate to me that no one was or is serious about cutting budgets.
Of course, that is is they actually wanted to solve the problem. They never did, which is why it was all theatre.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (N1DT3)
That's a related issue, but completely true. Paul Ryan and his team of "wonks" (remember that term) scoured the entire federal budget and determined there was absolutely nothing they could cut. The only deficit reduction that could be done would be by raising the social security retirement age. Which is clearly
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Would people be willing to sacrifice a bit on social security if the government first cut massively in to their own spending? Probably. But Paul Ryan found a way to ensure zero cuts would happen, and instead the deficit continued to grow. That would indicate to me that no one was or is serious about cutting budgets.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (uCjyK)
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if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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Here's the problem: if you don't impose fiscal rigor when you have the chance, you might never get the chance again. I realize that corruption has allowed MMT to keep us bumbling along, but I sincerely believe you cannot continue to mount up trillions in debt without a reckoning.
I'm all about cutting spending though. I'd rather have Conservative 'wins' by inflicting crippling cutbacks on the Progressive favorite projects than try to get wins by spending more more we don't have on Conservative favorite projects.
Regan did a lot of good for this country but the idea of permanent deficit spending wasn't one of them.
I'm all about cutting spending though. I'd rather have Conservative 'wins' by inflicting crippling cutbacks on the Progressive favorite projects than try to get wins by spending more more we don't have on Conservative favorite projects.
Regan did a lot of good for this country but the idea of permanent deficit spending wasn't one of them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (xcxpd)
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29 if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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What is the list?
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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What is the list?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
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I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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The "memo" was a gift to the left (just look at which "news" source published the initial reports about it), after the build up the Epstein files initially got from the DOJ.
Once you decide not to pay any attention to the Propaganda agents, it does indeed go away.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)
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The "memo" was a gift to the left (just look at which "news" source published the initial reports about it), after the build up the Epstein files initially got from the DOJ.
Once you decide not to pay any attention to the Propaganda agents, it does indeed go away.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (PWqrv)
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It just seems to be gaining momentum..."
Sure, after seemingly everyone on the "right" keeps ranting on it. Funny that the mainstream ignored the whole thing until it became useful to beat on the right...
Sure, after seemingly everyone on the "right" keeps ranting on it. Funny that the mainstream ignored the whole thing until it became useful to beat on the right...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (tubbA)
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Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is 'in good shape' amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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Wait -- he didn't quit? He didn't demand Trump fire his bosses' bosses, the AG of the USA? No way! I was assured this happened. Assured!
This was purely an op by anti-Trump forces looking to sow dissention and chaos. And many conservatives fell for it. We will never ever learn.
Francesca Chambers, USA TODAY, July 13, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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Only fallout evident was social media supposition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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Wait -- he didn't quit? He didn't demand Trump fire his bosses' bosses, the AG of the USA? No way! I was assured this happened. Assured!
This was purely an op by anti-Trump forces looking to sow dissention and chaos. And many conservatives fell for it. We will never ever learn.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (iFTx/)
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29 if there was any information that would damage Trump or any Republican, it would have been released years ago.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
It's all lefties, and they protect their own.
Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:12 AM (xcxpd)
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Buck,
I have always enjoyed your rants, especially the one on EVs.
This one is as well, spot on. People can grip about Trump on a number of issues. But what he has succeeded in doing so far is lifting the veil hiding what the powers that be have hidden behind and shown there is an alternative to what they are offering.
I have always enjoyed your rants, especially the one on EVs.
This one is as well, spot on. People can grip about Trump on a number of issues. But what he has succeeded in doing so far is lifting the veil hiding what the powers that be have hidden behind and shown there is an alternative to what they are offering.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 14, 2025 11:12 AM (w3u3d)
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They're saying, with full confidence, that there is no "list" and there are no videos, despite Pam Bondi saying the exact opposite 4 or 5 months ago.
Is it possible that Bondi, believing as many do, that there are lists, documents, plaster penis casts, etc... spoke incorrectly only to find out that there isn't anything?
Now, let's assume for the moment that once upon a time all those things existed. But now everyone says that they don't. How do you investigate something that everyone "in the know" says doesn't exist? People say that "a conspiracy this big couldn't last" and, yet, look at all the people who said nothing about senile Biden, all the people who said nothing about USAID, all the people who said nothing about the US funding the creation of covid.
Is it possible that Bondi, believing as many do, that there are lists, documents, plaster penis casts, etc... spoke incorrectly only to find out that there isn't anything?
Now, let's assume for the moment that once upon a time all those things existed. But now everyone says that they don't. How do you investigate something that everyone "in the know" says doesn't exist? People say that "a conspiracy this big couldn't last" and, yet, look at all the people who said nothing about senile Biden, all the people who said nothing about USAID, all the people who said nothing about the US funding the creation of covid.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
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Then why won't Trump release the list?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
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On the conservative sites I frequent, even here, the coordinate low post "true MAGA" concern trolls being concerned is pretty transparent.
yep
there's an obvious op being played out here
keep powder dry and hair unlit
yep
there's an obvious op being played out here
keep powder dry and hair unlit
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Pv3Rg)
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We'll see if it dies down this week.. If not Trump is probably gonna have to say something...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (VE6XX)
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Is it possible that Bondi, believing as many do, that there are lists, documents, plaster penis casts, etc... spoke incorrectly only to find out that there isn't anything?
it's even likely that's what happened
it's even likely that's what happened
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (NFX2v)
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40 We'll see if it dies down this week.. If not Trump is probably gonna have to say something...
he's said more than enough
no more talk
WORK
he's said more than enough
no more talk
WORK
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (Pv3Rg)
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I suspect the List was what was already released: a list of flight logs and such.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Is Fauci in jail?
Posted by: Because Epstein is dead at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (XQo4F)
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This was purely an op by anti-Trump forces looking to sow dissention and chaos. And many conservatives fell for it. We will never ever learn.
we're on edge.
which is fair.
but try to always take a deep breath
the Left works by forcing your hand too early
we're on edge.
which is fair.
but try to always take a deep breath
the Left works by forcing your hand too early
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:15 AM (Pv3Rg)
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love my shit pebble.s
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 11:15 AM (/8R+T)
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What is the list?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
The list of names of people who the underaged girls were sex trafficked to, or alternatively the list of people who Epstein kept blackmail material on.
Those lists should heavily overlap.
The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
The list of names of people who the underaged girls were sex trafficked to, or alternatively the list of people who Epstein kept blackmail material on.
Those lists should heavily overlap.
The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:16 AM (uCjyK)
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PDJT has done SO MUCH
the AutoPen thing interests me more at the moment - Epstein is dead and his works, while evil, have ended for now.
the AUTOPEN thing
it's huge
every time some asshat asks about Epstein/pedo shit, just answer with "The Biden Administration's works must be rescinded. They misused the autopen and many of those pardons are null"
the AutoPen thing interests me more at the moment - Epstein is dead and his works, while evil, have ended for now.
the AUTOPEN thing
it's huge
every time some asshat asks about Epstein/pedo shit, just answer with "The Biden Administration's works must be rescinded. They misused the autopen and many of those pardons are null"
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (Pv3Rg)
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all right, looking at all the new troll names, I'm going to dial down my concern about the Epstein files.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (xcxpd)
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Right now, Trump is rolling like a juggernaut. Taking a side trip into Epstein would be throwing sand into the gears. Let's not. To me, flushing out the illegals and securing honest elections is more important.
One more point: a lot of the outrage at the Epstein episode is over what we think we know, not what we know we know.
One more point: a lot of the outrage at the Epstein episode is over what we think we know, not what we know we know.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (AOsQT)
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The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:16 AM (uCjyK)
This amuses me b/c the same thing could have been written for the Mar-a-Lago raid...and all the evidence the FBI "got"...
The FBI has spoken to all of those girls. The FBI took away boxes and boxes of evidence, and NYPD said they found a safe full of thumb drives and CD's. Pretty much everyone who has been inside any of Epstein's houses commented on the number of cameras there. Epstein's phonebook is publicly available.
So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
With just that information (and I imagine they have much more) they should be able to re-create the "list."
Also, Epstein was likely working for intel agencies. So the the CIA should also have the full file and full list of anyone Epstein was blackmailing based on reports that Epstein submitted to them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:16 AM (uCjyK)
This amuses me b/c the same thing could have been written for the Mar-a-Lago raid...and all the evidence the FBI "got"...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (tOcjL)
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50 all right, looking at all the new troll names, I'm going to dial down my concern about the Epstein files.
bingo my man, very wise
bingo my man, very wise
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (Pv3Rg)
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My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
Well, here we are.
I'm not sure if Trump is "defending" anyone, but he's certainly not "blowing the whole thing up" by releasing the CIA files on Jeffrey Epstein, which would be a real easy way of ending all speculation.
Clearly the Deep State does not want us talking about Epstein anymore, and Trump seems to be all in on that.
And Trump would defend them? I think not.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
Well, here we are.
I'm not sure if Trump is "defending" anyone, but he's certainly not "blowing the whole thing up" by releasing the CIA files on Jeffrey Epstein, which would be a real easy way of ending all speculation.
Clearly the Deep State does not want us talking about Epstein anymore, and Trump seems to be all in on that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew8)
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Buck your essay was fantastic, sorry I wanted to mention that first!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:19 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Is John "penitentiary face" Brennan in jail?
Posted by: Because Epstein is dead at July 14, 2025 11:19 AM (XQo4F)
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It would have been nice if (if) it was known back when Bondi and her binders of bullshit were released that the "Epstein files" were an op that they'd said so then. The word is that the "files" have been doctored to create a certain narrative by deep state ticks who pass them up the chain.
And nobody questioned them until now.
The rank and file in Trump's administration need to start taking every piece of data, documentation and reevaluate it as likely bogus. Then go through the motions of confirming it through other channels. Quietly.
Trust no one.
And nobody questioned them until now.
The rank and file in Trump's administration need to start taking every piece of data, documentation and reevaluate it as likely bogus. Then go through the motions of confirming it through other channels. Quietly.
Trust no one.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:19 AM (Q4IgG)
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That's a related issue, but completely true. Paul Ryan and his team of "wonks" (remember that term) scoured the entire federal budget and determined there was absolutely nothing they could cut. The only deficit reduction that could be done would be by raising the social security retirement age. Which is clearly
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Amendment:
1. The Congress shall present the President with a budget bill(s) at least one month prior to the end of the fiscal year. In any year where this deadline is not met, 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
2. The budget bill(s) required by item 1 shall be written starting with a zero baseline. In any year in which a deficit is produced by the bill(s), 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
3. In the event of a declared war, the Congressional budget may exceed revenues by a sum to be spent above normal military funding and spent entirely for the prosecution of the war. Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
a) not true
and
b) politically radioactive, especially since refer back to a.
Amendment:
1. The Congress shall present the President with a budget bill(s) at least one month prior to the end of the fiscal year. In any year where this deadline is not met, 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
2. The budget bill(s) required by item 1 shall be written starting with a zero baseline. In any year in which a deficit is produced by the bill(s), 10% of the House / Senate, drawn by random lot, shall be executed.
3. In the event of a declared war, the Congressional budget may exceed revenues by a sum to be spent above normal military funding and spent entirely for the prosecution of the war. Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
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That said, I refuse to join in with those seeking to blow up the Trump administration out of frustration that an “Epstein list” is not being released.
Not gonna "blow it up", but am extremely disappointed that it's business as usual.
Not gonna "blow it up", but am extremely disappointed that it's business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (+bLMA)
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Any 'Epstein List' if it exists would have dozens of names of totally innocent people who have had contact with Epstein. I don't think there is a separate 'list' of under age clients. Any blackmail material would be in the form of tapes and audio. No reason to keep a list except as an addition to those tapes.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
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all right, looking at all the new troll names, I'm going to dial down my concern about the Epstein files.
bingo my man, very wise
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (Pv3Rg)
We shouldn't forget the older troll-adjacent members too.
bingo my man, very wise
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:18 AM (Pv3Rg)
We shouldn't forget the older troll-adjacent members too.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (g8Ew8)
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Not gonna "blow it up", but am extremely disappointed that it's business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (+bLMA)
I think that's more it than anything.
I didn't think Biden (or Kamala) would release any info on Epstein, because clearly they work(ed) for the deep state.
I don't think Jeb! or any mainstream R would either.
Trump said he would. A lot of us believed him, even if we were a bit skeptical after Trump 1.0.
And yet...
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (+bLMA)
I think that's more it than anything.
I didn't think Biden (or Kamala) would release any info on Epstein, because clearly they work(ed) for the deep state.
I don't think Jeb! or any mainstream R would either.
Trump said he would. A lot of us believed him, even if we were a bit skeptical after Trump 1.0.
And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uCjyK)
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The media has picked up on it now and a Dem congressman wants to pass legislation demanding it be released .... Maybe the congressman should rethink that.. What is Trump releases it and it's full of Dems ? Maybe that was the plan all along.... Okay... Takes off tin foil hat
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)
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When Harry and the ASS troll are singing from the same hymnbook...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
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Good piece on the budget (chicken) hawks; it provided a lot of clarification concerning their myopic world view.
Posted by: Paco at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (mADJX)
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So the FBI should have a list of names, dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and according to Bondi "tens of thousands of hours of video footage."
Of Epstein boffing underaged girls all by his lonesome.
Pull my other leg. It plays Jingle Bells.
Of Epstein boffing underaged girls all by his lonesome.
Pull my other leg. It plays Jingle Bells.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (+bLMA)
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Trump said he would. A lot of us believed him, even if we were a bit skeptical after Trump 1.0.
And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uCjyK)
There were a lot of very loud voices that were put into specific positions for reasons such as this.
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uCjyK)
There were a lot of very loud voices that were put into specific positions for reasons such as this.
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
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When Harry and the ASS troll are singing from the same hymnbook...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
I scroll by his posts but that's what I would have guessed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
I scroll by his posts but that's what I would have guessed.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:24 AM (VofaG)
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66 When Harry and the ASS troll are singing from the same hymnbook...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
Yes, yes, I know. When talking about the Ukraine war, I'm a Putin puppet.
When talking about the Israeli wars, I'm an antisemite.
When talking about Epstein, I'm just a troll.
Do you guys get an email every morning with the agreed upon talking points for the day, or is this a Fox News thing I'm just out of the loop on?
I suspect if I spent my time looking at threads on this very website about Epstein from a year ago, you'd be singing a very different tune.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:22 AM (gRLf5)
Yes, yes, I know. When talking about the Ukraine war, I'm a Putin puppet.
When talking about the Israeli wars, I'm an antisemite.
When talking about Epstein, I'm just a troll.
Do you guys get an email every morning with the agreed upon talking points for the day, or is this a Fox News thing I'm just out of the loop on?
I suspect if I spent my time looking at threads on this very website about Epstein from a year ago, you'd be singing a very different tune.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
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Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
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>>It's like HW's "read my lips: no new taxes" pledge. Or Wilsons "I'll keep us out of war" pledge. Etc. etc.
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No, it isn't. Not at all. Trump would have to come out for full amnesty and and open border for him to join the company of those betrayers.
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No, it isn't. Not at all. Trump would have to come out for full amnesty and and open border for him to join the company of those betrayers.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (bNf8H)
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Like many, I just want the truth. If the Trump Administration is dropping the Epstein case in toto, then (in my view) they need to tell us the unvarnished why of it. 'The mountain of evidence we told you about has magically disappeared' just doesn't cut it.
I suspect the whole thing was a joint CIA and Mossad operation intended to gain leverage over Epstein's clients, who almost certainly included Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew--presidents and princes, celebrities and political power players.
Do Trump and his people think the damage to the country revealing those names would be greater than any benefits bringing these powerful people to justice would incur? Probably. Do they think prosecuting, say, Bill Clinton, would serve as an enormous distraction and possibly derail Trump's agenda? No doubt.
If that's the case, then they should say so outright. They can keep such a declaration devoid of client names. This is about trust. This is about justice. Treat us like adults. We're not fucking children. We can take it.
I suspect the whole thing was a joint CIA and Mossad operation intended to gain leverage over Epstein's clients, who almost certainly included Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew--presidents and princes, celebrities and political power players.
Do Trump and his people think the damage to the country revealing those names would be greater than any benefits bringing these powerful people to justice would incur? Probably. Do they think prosecuting, say, Bill Clinton, would serve as an enormous distraction and possibly derail Trump's agenda? No doubt.
If that's the case, then they should say so outright. They can keep such a declaration devoid of client names. This is about trust. This is about justice. Treat us like adults. We're not fucking children. We can take it.
Posted by: troyriser at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (DPeYO)
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Whig and I have comments at the end of the last post that are salient and erudite.
Bottom line, very few pushing the "why hasn't Trump lined all the world's elite up and shot them?!" or variations to whatever lesser degree, are not honest dealers seeking a beneficial outcome for anyone but the world elite.
And yes, those "good guys" on right-wing media ... still have to put food on their table by selling views.
Comment I heard over the weekend:
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Bottom line, very few pushing the "why hasn't Trump lined all the world's elite up and shot them?!" or variations to whatever lesser degree, are not honest dealers seeking a beneficial outcome for anyone but the world elite.
And yes, those "good guys" on right-wing media ... still have to put food on their table by selling views.
Comment I heard over the weekend:
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (JThEY)
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@8
>>I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Epstein is never going away, so it would behoove the administration to come clean and stop covering up and expose the Deep State.
There is nothing stopping the administration from accomplishing things and revealing who was running Epstein.
They are the ones the created the situation and they can rectify it.
>>I'd love for Epstein filegate to go away.. It just seems to be gaining momentum...
Epstein is never going away, so it would behoove the administration to come clean and stop covering up and expose the Deep State.
There is nothing stopping the administration from accomplishing things and revealing who was running Epstein.
They are the ones the created the situation and they can rectify it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (XV/Pl)
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Didn't know this before but Alan Dershowitz was involved in the investigation years ago, don't know in what capacity. In a recorded interview he said there are numerous rich, powerful people implicated but he has signed confidentiality agreements to not to disclose any names or any information about them. Not just a few, which we all assumed already but many. I found that interesting.
Posted by: Ripley at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (GUOwU)
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Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (lPvx2)
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Any 'Epstein List' if it exists would have dozens of names of totally innocent people who have had contact with Epstein. I don't think there is a separate 'list' of under age clients. Any blackmail material would be in the form of tapes and audio. No reason to keep a list except as an addition to those tapes.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
Also if you believe there is a list and that Epstein was murdered you would have to believe he was stupid enough not to have a fail safe kill switch.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)
____
The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (iFTx/)
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72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (VE6XX)
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There were a lot of very loud voices that were put into specific positions for reasons such as this.
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
Agreed. We're just expected to move on and pretend none of that happened?
I never even listened to Bongino on whatever podcast he had or whatever, but I've seen clips of him ranting about Epstein (on twitter) for years.
Now he's saying "there's nothing there."
Kash Patel looked like he was a POW in Korea filming a "I hate America" hostage video when Rogan asked him about Epstein on his podcast. Guy is a terrible liar. All he could say was "do you really think the Russiagate guy, Kash Patel, would lie to you about this?!?"
And they all capitulated.
I want them all to come out and say that they were very wrong in their prior beliefs, if I am to believe them now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
Agreed. We're just expected to move on and pretend none of that happened?
I never even listened to Bongino on whatever podcast he had or whatever, but I've seen clips of him ranting about Epstein (on twitter) for years.
Now he's saying "there's nothing there."
Kash Patel looked like he was a POW in Korea filming a "I hate America" hostage video when Rogan asked him about Epstein on his podcast. Guy is a terrible liar. All he could say was "do you really think the Russiagate guy, Kash Patel, would lie to you about this?!?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (uCjyK)
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It's not the lists that bother me. It's the lies. Bondi's alligator mouth made promises her hummingbird ass couldn't keep.
Posted by: creeper at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (zFwIe)
83
I tend to disagree with Harry Paratestes more than not, but I do defend his posting here.
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
84
Bottom line, very few pushing the "why hasn't Trump lined all the world's elite up and shot them?!"
I mean...are you saying no?
I mean...are you saying no?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
85
Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLMA)
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I suspect if I spent my time looking at threads on this very website about Epstein from a year ago, you'd be singing a very different tune.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
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People get accused of blindly following Trump but as soon as MAGA people have a disagreement with Trump it’s all “get on board no matter what.”
There is no reason that this disagreement needs to be simply sweep under the rug.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uCjyK)
———-
People get accused of blindly following Trump but as soon as MAGA people have a disagreement with Trump it’s all “get on board no matter what.”
There is no reason that this disagreement needs to be simply sweep under the rug.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (Vh9CX)
87
I'm wondering if we'll get a similar post when Trump tells you all to shut up about that thing he just did with your guns.
Posted by: No one. at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (CQ3Qb)
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@77
>>don't know in what capacity
Dershowitz was one of Epstein's Lawyers, he represented him in the Florida case.
He helped negotiate his wildly generous plea deal.
Dresh know sh*t, so that f**ker needs to be grilled.
>>don't know in what capacity
Dershowitz was one of Epstein's Lawyers, he represented him in the Florida case.
He helped negotiate his wildly generous plea deal.
Dresh know sh*t, so that f**ker needs to be grilled.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
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78 Any debt arising from the war must be retired, in its entirety, within 10 years of the end of the war.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (lPvx2)
*perks up*
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
Then we execute a random 10% of congress.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:26 AM (lPvx2)
*perks up*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (xcxpd)
90
83 He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
91
The Hill, 'Biden hits back at Trump, GOP over autopen criticism: ‘They’re liars’ by Colin Meyn - 07/13/25
In part, "The former president accused Republicans of stirring up the autopen controversy as a distraction.
“They’ve lied so consistently about almost everything they’re doing. The best thing they can do is try to change the focus and focus on something else. And this is a — I think that’s what this is about,” he said."
That took some thought. While they're still firing up Epstein theories v. MAGA supporters.
Time to end Pizza Gate, Qnon and bring in new (including DOGE) for the next generations of agitators.
In part, "The former president accused Republicans of stirring up the autopen controversy as a distraction.
“They’ve lied so consistently about almost everything they’re doing. The best thing they can do is try to change the focus and focus on something else. And this is a — I think that’s what this is about,” he said."
That took some thought. While they're still firing up Epstein theories v. MAGA supporters.
Time to end Pizza Gate, Qnon and bring in new (including DOGE) for the next generations of agitators.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (NFX2v)
92
This sounds like one of the most pernicious arguments from the Shrub years - namely that we need to win the WoT and everything else is secondary.
Which is...BS.
The Trump admin can work on the BBB, or targeted spending cuts, or whatever, AND prosecute the Epstein clients and Fauci and his minions.
Which is...BS.
The Trump admin can work on the BBB, or targeted spending cuts, or whatever, AND prosecute the Epstein clients and Fauci and his minions.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)
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72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (VE6XX)
Obviously this goes beyond partisan politics. I don't happen to think that Israel would be able to pull something like this off on US soil without the CIA knowing or being involved.
I suspect the CIA was the mastermind here, and this is just Deep State CYA nonsense at this point, as the CIA doesn't want to admit they control our politicians through blackmail, coercion, and other unpleasantness.
But this heavily implicating foreign policy is one possibility of why there is a strong bipartisan consensus to not release anything about this situation.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (Vh9CX)
If stuff like this was in it why didn't Biden have it released ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (VE6XX)
Obviously this goes beyond partisan politics. I don't happen to think that Israel would be able to pull something like this off on US soil without the CIA knowing or being involved.
I suspect the CIA was the mastermind here, and this is just Deep State CYA nonsense at this point, as the CIA doesn't want to admit they control our politicians through blackmail, coercion, and other unpleasantness.
But this heavily implicating foreign policy is one possibility of why there is a strong bipartisan consensus to not release anything about this situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (uCjyK)
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I know what I don't know and concede everything I say is conjecture based on info only garnered from news reports. Others act like they sat in on the DOJ FBI meetings and had access to all the files with their definitive statements.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
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If you care about this epstein bullshit, I mean REALLY care, then You have problems.
This has absolutely ZERO impact on Your life.
Smarten up, dummies.
If you care about this epstein bullshit, I mean REALLY care, then You have problems.
This has absolutely ZERO impact on Your life.
Smarten up, dummies.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (IS8kY)
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What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
well I wouldn't need my "shocked face"
well I wouldn't need my "shocked face"
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Pv3Rg)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
98
I tend to disagree with Harry Paratestes more than not, but I do defend his posting here.
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
_____
"What you talkin' 'bout?"
-- Trolly Trolltastic Troll
He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
_____
"What you talkin' 'bout?"
-- Trolly Trolltastic Troll
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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so, let me get this right, "Festive Little Hats" is code for "cervical cap for birth control", right?
I always feel left out of this new hep cat talk.
I always feel left out of this new hep cat talk.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (D7oie)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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94 I know what I don't know and concede everything I say is conjecture based on info only garnered from news reports. Others act like they sat in on the DOJ FBI meetings and had access to all the files with their definitive statements.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
I'll be the first to admit it.. I have no clue on this...
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)
I'll be the first to admit it.. I have no clue on this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VE6XX)
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100 Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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I'm also not in jail.
Have you seen my new scarf collection? You can buy them on Etsy!
Have you seen my new scarf collection? You can buy them on Etsy!
Posted by: Deborah Birx at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (XQo4F)
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I'll repeat what I said below:
Destroying the power of the degenerate and despicable world elite will be far more painful to them and longer-lasting than any "justice" meted out via transient or dubious success of any criminal prosecution.
Trump is the nuclear threat to that power.
Think of it as demanding your knight charge the 100-foot rock walls of the castle--NOW!!--instead of destroying the castle walls first.
Destroying the power of the degenerate and despicable world elite will be far more painful to them and longer-lasting than any "justice" meted out via transient or dubious success of any criminal prosecution.
Trump is the nuclear threat to that power.
Think of it as demanding your knight charge the 100-foot rock walls of the castle--NOW!!--instead of destroying the castle walls first.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (JThEY)
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What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLM
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Outraged of course. And hope people get sent to jail.
If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLM
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Outraged of course. And hope people get sent to jail.
If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (Vh9CX)
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Cutting spending is hard because there are no direct negative consequences for Congress for spending more then they should.
Yes if they spend enough, like during the Biden years they cause hyperinflation but even so the response is fairly muted.
Does some Dem Rep from a Blue Shitty elected like clock work through fraud really care? Hell no.
Yes if they spend enough, like during the Biden years they cause hyperinflation but even so the response is fairly muted.
Does some Dem Rep from a Blue Shitty elected like clock work through fraud really care? Hell no.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)
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>>> What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
"deep state gonna deep state"
"deep state gonna deep state"
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (jGJov)
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Comment I heard over the weekend:
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (JThEY)
This is true about every single "news" story. There hasn't been anything reported by anyone ever since they were still putting feathers in caps and naming them after pasta that wasn't entirely motivated by emotional manipulation.
It's almost to the point of being a kind of inversion. It isn't so much that there was once something we called "the news" but it one day became mostly about emotional manipulation by Those Bastards. It's that there's a whole lot of emotional manipulation to be done and one day it started to be called "the news".
This pre-dates America by centuries. It probably pre-dates writing itself, for crying out loud.
Ignore the headlines, it's emotional manipulation to sell your attention.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (JThEY)
This is true about every single "news" story. There hasn't been anything reported by anyone ever since they were still putting feathers in caps and naming them after pasta that wasn't entirely motivated by emotional manipulation.
It's almost to the point of being a kind of inversion. It isn't so much that there was once something we called "the news" but it one day became mostly about emotional manipulation by Those Bastards. It's that there's a whole lot of emotional manipulation to be done and one day it started to be called "the news".
This pre-dates America by centuries. It probably pre-dates writing itself, for crying out loud.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (VoAdT)
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Quicksand sinks all wagons. Move on to what we want and not what we find tempting. Epstein at this point is quicksand. Its a TRAP.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (W3T6M)
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oooh. nice metaphor People's Hippo
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (Pv3Rg)
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He's not a troll, at least.
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
*weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
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I feel seen...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
*weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
I think Britain was formerly running Epstein, with full access from our government through Five Eyes.
Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
If it was a foreign country doing it then all diplomats should be expelled from the USA with demands that the leadership of that country resign and crippling financial sanctions imposed.
I think Britain was formerly running Epstein, with full access from our government through Five Eyes.
Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)
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Have you changed your mind from a few days ago?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
How did I know you were going to say that?
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
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About what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
How did I know you were going to say that?
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)
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AND prosecute the Epstein clients and Fauci and his minions.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)
You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
Epstein and Maxwell did the trafficking. Nobody else found and moved the women/girls. If anything, you could hit the powerful for the Diddy "paid for prostitution" charge which is a nothing, and as mentioned, is outside the statute.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)
You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
Epstein and Maxwell did the trafficking. Nobody else found and moved the women/girls. If anything, you could hit the powerful for the Diddy "paid for prostitution" charge which is a nothing, and as mentioned, is outside the statute.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (tOcjL)
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A strongly worded letter will be fine.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (+Xwnt)
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106 Does some Dem Rep from a Blue Shitty elected like clock work through fraud really care? Hell no.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)
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I just wish the Freedom Caucus had banded together 10 years ago to horsetrade their votes by getting specific, long-running pork cut from CRs and budgets as their prices for votes.
15 years of, "Sure, I'll vote for this, if you cut this $1 billion program," from like 20 Reps could have made a dent.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)
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I just wish the Freedom Caucus had banded together 10 years ago to horsetrade their votes by getting specific, long-running pork cut from CRs and budgets as their prices for votes.
15 years of, "Sure, I'll vote for this, if you cut this $1 billion program," from like 20 Reps could have made a dent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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I still believe fiscal responsibility is worth fighting for (although it may already be too late )
I still believe there ought to be transparency with what was happening in Jeff Epstein's Jailbait Island.
I don't think wanting these things makes me an enemy of the other parts of Trump's agenda.
I still believe there ought to be transparency with what was happening in Jeff Epstein's Jailbait Island.
I don't think wanting these things makes me an enemy of the other parts of Trump's agenda.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (Ieyo8)
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113 How did I know you were going to say that?
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)
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Man, I comment way too much here.
Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (VofaG)
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Man, I comment way too much here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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I'll be the first to admit it.. I have no clue on this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VE6XX)
Me neither. But all the arguing is a fun read.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (VE6XX)
Me neither. But all the arguing is a fun read.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (Y1sOo)
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Less than 12 months ago, the Department of Injustice was STILL rounding up Jan 6 partcipants.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I can remember *before* the last Fake News cycle. I remember all the Shit we were going through the last 5 years, and how close we came to being an official Enemy of the State, and living in a third-world shithole banana republic.
Less than 12 months ago, the Department of Injustice was STILL rounding up Jan 6 partcipants.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I can remember *before* the last Fake News cycle. I remember all the Shit we were going through the last 5 years, and how close we came to being an official Enemy of the State, and living in a third-world shithole banana republic.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (IS8kY)
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111 *weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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*throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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*throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
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Again, why exposing the Epstein Op is crucial is because the Op wasn't directed at foreign "enemies," it was essentially directed at the people of the Western World and Anglospshere to maintain control over them.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (XV/Pl)
124
The simplest explanation for the opacity of the Epstein investigation is that powerful people are being protected.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (Ieyo8)
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Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
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Britain clings to NATO as its only semi empire. It wants to keep its upstart brother in NATO and cutting checks.
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Britain clings to NATO as its only semi empire. It wants to keep its upstart brother in NATO and cutting checks.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (W3T6M)
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I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
See: Donald Trump
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
See: Donald Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (VE6XX)
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You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
Then Trump et al. need to say so. I doubt most people here really care about seeing these people serving long sentences. They want public humiliations galore for the high and mighty who have behaved badly. Simply releasing the information would accomplish that.
Then Trump et al. need to say so. I doubt most people here really care about seeing these people serving long sentences. They want public humiliations galore for the high and mighty who have behaved badly. Simply releasing the information would accomplish that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
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You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (IS8kY)
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The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
And it would have been SO EASY for Trump's team to come out and say "well... we reviewed everything and we can't find any lists or evidence. So either the FBI never had it and the CIA is lying to us, or it never existed."
Rogan even pushed Patel on this point. Patel said no videos exist (except child porn of Epstein and young girls and he wouldn't "re-victimize the women" by releasing THAT), and there is no list. Definitely said that. No hedging on "it probably once existed but now doesn't."
And the narrative is now that Epstein was a lone wolf pedophile, except for Ghislaine who is in jail for sex trafficking although there is no list of people who she trafficked the girls to.
And Acosta was lying or whatever when he said he was told Epstein worked for intelligence.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
And it would have been SO EASY for Trump's team to come out and say "well... we reviewed everything and we can't find any lists or evidence. So either the FBI never had it and the CIA is lying to us, or it never existed."
Rogan even pushed Patel on this point. Patel said no videos exist (except child porn of Epstein and young girls and he wouldn't "re-victimize the women" by releasing THAT), and there is no list. Definitely said that. No hedging on "it probably once existed but now doesn't."
And the narrative is now that Epstein was a lone wolf pedophile, except for Ghislaine who is in jail for sex trafficking although there is no list of people who she trafficked the girls to.
And Acosta was lying or whatever when he said he was told Epstein worked for intelligence.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (uCjyK)
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The "client list" that people claim Dershowitz talks about really isn't a client list at all. Dersh talked about "names" that included men who he claims were falsely accused by Guiffree. And I'm sure there were some false accusations. Trump, for one.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (iFTx/)
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I suspect that Epstein Island was a honeypot and recruitment tool for the WEF, and that org shared enough dirt with the CIA that they allowed it continue.
And if Trump and his people now have some of that kompromat in their hands, then they can use it to apply pressure to certain politicians that need pressuring.
And if Trump and his people now have some of that kompromat in their hands, then they can use it to apply pressure to certain politicians that need pressuring.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (gRLf5)
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123 Again, why exposing the Epstein Op is crucial is because the Op wasn't directed at foreign "enemies," it was essentially directed at the people of the Western World and Anglospshere to maintain control over them.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (XV/Pl)
Well, one of the reasons.
If you've ever wondered why can't seem to ever get what we want from our politician, the Epstein Op is the reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (XV/Pl)
Well, one of the reasons.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (KbCG3)
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If the clients cannot be prosecuted, that is even more reason to release their identities.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Ieyo8)
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I cant even remember how I guessed on the NYE Epstein question. I care far more about cutting taxpayer funding for the NGOs that exist just to elect commiecrats. After 4 years of Biden's people heading the FBI and CIA I doubt there is much of an Epstein list remaining. Possibly they left only the names of Rs and conservative types.
If they did that; I'm not rooting for those folks to just skate, but there would be a calculus of "the FNM will say only Rs, and conservatives were Epstein clients, is it worth putting commies back in charge to release only this part of the list?" If the good guys do have those names, perhaps they will go after the sleazeballs for other things.
If they did that; I'm not rooting for those folks to just skate, but there would be a calculus of "the FNM will say only Rs, and conservatives were Epstein clients, is it worth putting commies back in charge to release only this part of the list?" If the good guys do have those names, perhaps they will go after the sleazeballs for other things.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (bP/i4)
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121 111 *weighs Prometheus love against Ozu love*
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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*throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (xcxpd)
136
128
You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (IS8kY)
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42-9.
I guess they could steal one or two more, but I really feel like they're maxed out.
You know what I Really Care about??
I care about stopping California Democrats from STEALING more House seats in 2026 & 2028.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (IS8kY)
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42-9.
I guess they could steal one or two more, but I really feel like they're maxed out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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What would our reaction be if we found out our very own government was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring/pizza parlor?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLMA)
at the very least, firing the idiots who OK'd it, and getting the girls pensions and VA benefits.
If it is Mossa then the Israelis can fund it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (+bLMA)
at the very least, firing the idiots who OK'd it, and getting the girls pensions and VA benefits.
If it is Mossa then the Israelis can fund it.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2025 11:37 AM (D7oie)
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135 *throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
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I've never denied it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
*decides on 'troll'*
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
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*side eyes*
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (wVcYX)
140
138 135 *throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
I like Escape from LA.. It's so bad it's good..
138 135 *throws in Escape from LA love*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
I like Escape from LA.. It's so bad it's good..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (VE6XX)
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lmao, what cowardly bullshit
"I want answers as much as you guys! But I dunno, let's let the whole child sex trafficking stuff slide..."
This is craven bootlicking. I'm glad that judging by the lack of Twitter interactions, other people are as unimpressed by this pathetic bullshit as I am.
"I want answers as much as you guys! But I dunno, let's let the whole child sex trafficking stuff slide..."
This is craven bootlicking. I'm glad that judging by the lack of Twitter interactions, other people are as unimpressed by this pathetic bullshit as I am.
Posted by: deepelemblues at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (ipV99)
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72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
Posted by: ADL at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (stEYJ)
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I think Epstein was more interested in getting the high rollers he was "entertaining" to bankroll his financial adventures than anything else. If they needed to be prodded into giving him large sums of money he had photos to prod them with.
Maybe it's not some convoluted operation involving intelligence agencies. The issues surrounding human trafficking certainly need to be explored, but the overall situation is probably a lot less.... interesting.
Like I said upthread; the administration needs to start taking all the intelligence info they're being fed and double/triple check it authenticity.
Maybe it's not some convoluted operation involving intelligence agencies. The issues surrounding human trafficking certainly need to be explored, but the overall situation is probably a lot less.... interesting.
Like I said upthread; the administration needs to start taking all the intelligence info they're being fed and double/triple check it authenticity.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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122 You can't prosecute Epstein clients. Statute of limitations has run. And it's possible the location chosen for their trysts also had everyone of age for the law in that location (since they flew there), so it may not even be a felony crime for many of them even if it hasn't run.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
And Trump has been trying to get away from that and reinforce rule of law - actual law. Why would we want him to stop doing that?
I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find grounds to prosecute the Epstein clients. That's something that's become very clear - the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
And Trump has been trying to get away from that and reinforce rule of law - actual law. Why would we want him to stop doing that?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (tOcjL)
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Then Trump et al. need to say so. I doubt most people here really care about seeing these people serving long sentences. They want public humiliations galore for the high and mighty who have behaved badly. Simply releasing the information would accomplish that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
I don't care if we give all of the John's full immunity at this point.
We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
I don't care if we give all of the John's full immunity at this point.
We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
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The feds hunted down every person who was within a mile of the Capitol on January 6. It is difficult to believe they don't know who Epstein's clients were.
Ghislaine's little black book was sealed by a judge. Remember that?
Ghislaine's little black book was sealed by a judge. Remember that?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (Ieyo8)
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The diabolical Doctor Fauci has arguably killed way more people than were ever harmed by Epstein, yet somehow remains untouchable.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
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I just wish the Freedom Caucus had banded together 10 years ago to horsetrade their votes by getting specific, long-running pork cut from CRs and budgets as their prices for votes.
I think the general approach to handling spending it wrong here, and I think we aren't considering the big picture enough.
The old model is that the government wastes money and spends too much overall so let's find the most wasteful bits and cut those.
When we succeed then we cut small potato things that get swamped by new wasteful spending.
Instead think of the budget as a conflict. Our goal should be to end, or at least reduce, any and all spending that primarily benefits the left. This means wasteful rightwing spending will accrue which I don't care about. Why? Because once we get in this mode the left will target THAT spending.
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
I think the general approach to handling spending it wrong here, and I think we aren't considering the big picture enough.
The old model is that the government wastes money and spends too much overall so let's find the most wasteful bits and cut those.
When we succeed then we cut small potato things that get swamped by new wasteful spending.
Instead think of the budget as a conflict. Our goal should be to end, or at least reduce, any and all spending that primarily benefits the left. This means wasteful rightwing spending will accrue which I don't care about. Why? Because once we get in this mode the left will target THAT spending.
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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We have an institutionalized system of Injustice at the highest levels of government.
It's not focused around party politics, much as it may seem, it's not focused around wealth gathering, it's not focused on race. It is about power, taking it from the people and putting into their hands.
They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
It's not focused around party politics, much as it may seem, it's not focused around wealth gathering, it's not focused on race. It is about power, taking it from the people and putting into their hands.
They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
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Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (IS8kY)
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Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (W3T6M)
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148 The diabolical Doctor Fauci has arguably killed way more people than were ever harmed by Epstein, yet somehow remains untouchable.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
"Presidential" pardon, even.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
"Presidential" pardon, even.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (xcxpd)
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I can remember *before* the last Fake News cycle. I remember all the Shit we were going through the last 5 years, and how close we came to being an official Enemy of the State, and living in a third-world shithole banana republic.
exactly Sooth
and yesterday - think about what almost happened a year ago yesterday.
If the Left had succeeded there, think where we'd be
there's a lot of work to be done on things active now. the Epstein op is no longer active. it's not a rush rush, not anymore.
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
exactly Sooth
and yesterday - think about what almost happened a year ago yesterday.
If the Left had succeeded there, think where we'd be
there's a lot of work to be done on things active now. the Epstein op is no longer active. it's not a rush rush, not anymore.
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Less than 12 months ago, the Department of Injustice was STILL rounding up Jan 6 partcipants.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I do too. That's precisely WHY I care. Because J6'ers were being locked up for nothing while those fucking little kids skate.
So excuse me if I don't give a FLYING FUCK about epstein.
Because I Remember.
I do too. That's precisely WHY I care. Because J6'ers were being locked up for nothing while those fucking little kids skate.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (+bLMA)
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This is all BS
Bondi needs to come out and say she was told by the previous administration hat there were boxes of Epstein files and videos. Upon further examination, these "files" we e all known documents and all the original files and thumb drives and videos were destroyed by the previous administration. We are investigating who ordered the destruction and when it occurred. And apologize to the American people and the president.
Bondi needs to come out and say she was told by the previous administration hat there were boxes of Epstein files and videos. Upon further examination, these "files" we e all known documents and all the original files and thumb drives and videos were destroyed by the previous administration. We are investigating who ordered the destruction and when it occurred. And apologize to the American people and the president.
Posted by: Megthered at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (GOJbT)
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The point is that Epstein's entire operation was based on getting irrefutable evidence of "elites" behaving badly. I'll assume he was competent at that, and I'll further assume the Feds now have that material. If not, they should say so. If so, we don't need to quibble about "lists". We have the real evidence, or we don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)
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Spoiler alert: there is no evidence. If there ever was, it's long long long gone. This shit happened 20 years ago. His FL plea deal was in 2008, for conduct that went back to the 1990s. How many presidents, AGs, FBI directors, federal prosecutors, etc have come and gone during that time? Anything that ever existed is long gone.
Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (iFTx/)
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And Trump has been trying to get away from that and reinforce rule of law - actual law. Why would we want him to stop doing that?
Because politics doesn't work like that. Like in Game Theory if you always choose "cooperate" even when they choose "betray" you will never win.
Trump should take the same attitude the Junta took against the J6 protestors and crank it to 11. Every Epstein client, every BLM/antifa leader, every Fauci minion should be looking at the J6 process on steroids.
Because politics doesn't work like that. Like in Game Theory if you always choose "cooperate" even when they choose "betray" you will never win.
Trump should take the same attitude the Junta took against the J6 protestors and crank it to 11. Every Epstein client, every BLM/antifa leader, every Fauci minion should be looking at the J6 process on steroids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (IS8kY)
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149 Instead think of the budget as a conflict. Our goal should be to end, or at least reduce, any and all spending that primarily benefits the left. This means wasteful rightwing spending will accrue which I don't care about. Why? Because once we get in this mode the left will target THAT spending.
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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That was kind of my thought.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
"I have no idea what's going on because I'm a backbencher who doesn't read legislation."
-Rep for MA-03
With both sides cutting spending we might actually get somewhere. And since the left is much more dependent on this spending we'll be hurting them the whole time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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That was kind of my thought.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
"I have no idea what's going on because I'm a backbencher who doesn't read legislation."
-Rep for MA-03
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
There is iron in your words of death. The "elites" fear exposure more than jail, because exposure would cause too many people to conclude they really aren't "elites" at all, and don't deserve power.
There is iron in your words of death. The "elites" fear exposure more than jail, because exposure would cause too many people to conclude they really aren't "elites" at all, and don't deserve power.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
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there's a lot of work to be done on things active now. the Epstein op is no longer active. it's not a rush rush, not anymore.
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (Pv3Rg)
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
cleaning up elections, cutting govt, and improving things for American citizens should be the focus
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (Pv3Rg)
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
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if this is a conspiracy then its the most successful conspiracy with hundreds of conspirators who are enemies with each other otherwise.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
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The left under the Junta: The Epstein thing is a conspiracy theory just like Pizzagate. There is no there there. You just like to accuse people you don't like of being Pedos
The left now: Trump won't prosecute the Epstein clients because he is one. He's a PEDO!!!
The left now: Trump won't prosecute the Epstein clients because he is one. He's a PEDO!!!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (t0Rmr)
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>Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
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Fun Fact: The President and First Lady will travel to the UK in September for an official state visit.
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Fun Fact: The President and First Lady will travel to the UK in September for an official state visit.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (AOsQT)
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I paid $2.71 for a dozen eggs yesterday.
I paid $2.71 for a dozen eggs yesterday.
Posted by: So there's that at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (XQo4F)
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No arrests for COVID crimes.
No arrests for Epstein’s clients.
No Big Pharma executives arrested.
No human traffickers arrested.
No election fraudsters arrested.
No climate scam operators arrested.
No Ukraine money launderers arrested.
Welcome to the clown world: justice is dead.
No arrests for Epstein’s clients.
No Big Pharma executives arrested.
No human traffickers arrested.
No election fraudsters arrested.
No climate scam operators arrested.
No Ukraine money launderers arrested.
Welcome to the clown world: justice is dead.
Posted by: kilroy at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (QMNUD)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because it brought in votes?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because it brought in votes?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (gRLf5)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
something changed, clearly
events, my dear. fluidity. it's a thing.
I assume they know the landscape has somehow shifted. I don't think they were being duplicitous then. but they weren't in govt yet.
something changed, clearly
events, my dear. fluidity. it's a thing.
I assume they know the landscape has somehow shifted. I don't think they were being duplicitous then. but they weren't in govt yet.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (Pv3Rg)
170
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
You know, we've only had about a decade to judge, but I don't think Trump is very good at thinking ahead and controlling his impulses. Just a thought.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
You know, we've only had about a decade to judge, but I don't think Trump is very good at thinking ahead and controlling his impulses. Just a thought.
Posted by: deepelemblues at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (ipV99)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Politicians make big things about everything that makes their opponent look bad before an election. Unlike others, Trump has actually followed through on a bunch of things...this is actually unusual...
Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Politicians make big things about everything that makes their opponent look bad before an election. Unlike others, Trump has actually followed through on a bunch of things...this is actually unusual...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (tOcjL)
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the US government can always find some way to charge someone if they WANT to.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
That's where I'm at. They jailed murdering gangsters for tax evasion back in the day. Anything they could get them on just to get alleged shitheads off the streets.
Look at what they tried against Trump.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
That's where I'm at. They jailed murdering gangsters for tax evasion back in the day. Anything they could get them on just to get alleged shitheads off the streets.
Look at what they tried against Trump.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (lPvx2)
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My wife took my son to CostCo and he was able to buy 36 beers for less than a dollar each. Future Leader was shocked and pleased.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (W3T6M)
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lol, PDT was just lamenting about biden also choosing the Resolute Desk...
lol, PDT was just lamenting about biden also choosing the Resolute Desk...
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (IS8kY)
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I think the general approach to handling spending it wrong here, and I think we aren't considering the big picture enough.
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The thing about spending is that you can't cut it until the Boomers are no longer a voting base. Not just because they are unwilling to cut their own benefits - they aren't. It is because radical spending cuts are going to be ... radical. Getting the Boomer generation, which is still a huge and reliable voting block, to do something radical in their old age is unlikely. They spent their whole lives living in a post-WWII consensus that no longer exists, except it their minds as they believe the present is similar to the past. It is not. I believe radical change, such as drastic spending cuts, may be more palatable to an electorate that is not clinging to a political dynamic that no longer exists.
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The thing about spending is that you can't cut it until the Boomers are no longer a voting base. Not just because they are unwilling to cut their own benefits - they aren't. It is because radical spending cuts are going to be ... radical. Getting the Boomer generation, which is still a huge and reliable voting block, to do something radical in their old age is unlikely. They spent their whole lives living in a post-WWII consensus that no longer exists, except it their minds as they believe the present is similar to the past. It is not. I believe radical change, such as drastic spending cuts, may be more palatable to an electorate that is not clinging to a political dynamic that no longer exists.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (sX1BW)
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Epstein is not the issue; it's transparency, honesty, integrity, and trust ... which is significant component of what I voted for.
Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (3qTJD)
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This Epstein "OMG, Trump betrayed us!" bullshit reminds me of the True Conservatives screaming last October:
"Trump has betrayed the pro-life movement! He refuses to support a federal ban on abortions!!"
It was a vile poison pill coated in pro-life rhetoric, the sole purpose was to kill the candidacy of the most pro-life President in history.
And usher in the most pro-abortion candidate in history.
But this time, this time for realz, they are honest dealers, merely seeking justice for the victims ....
"Trump has betrayed the pro-life movement! He refuses to support a federal ban on abortions!!"
It was a vile poison pill coated in pro-life rhetoric, the sole purpose was to kill the candidacy of the most pro-life President in history.
And usher in the most pro-abortion candidate in history.
But this time, this time for realz, they are honest dealers, merely seeking justice for the victims ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (JThEY)
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Someone on the raydio mentioned that President Trump may be holding onto the Epstein list and stuff to use as leverage over the various sodomites, perverts, chomos and homosexuals he has to deal with like Lindsey Graham and Luap Dnar.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Posted by: Playing Hard Ball at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (rfMRc)
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Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)
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Then why the hell did Trump and Co. make such a big deal about it prior to the election?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because Trump is a fan of all the internet conspiracies just like many here. He promised the same with UFOs and JFK.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
Because Trump is a fan of all the internet conspiracies just like many here. He promised the same with UFOs and JFK.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (VofaG)
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Did Trump make a big deal about Epstein?
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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That was kind of my thought.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
Ah ok then we are in alignment! But TBH I hear pretty much no one in the right-o-sphere with this take.
"This funding of a research facility in MA-03 must be cut for my vote."
-Freedom Caucus member
Ah ok then we are in alignment! But TBH I hear pretty much no one in the right-o-sphere with this take.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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They want to run the country and they do not want interference, exposure, or accessibility. That is behind Jan 6, behind Epstein's murder and coverup, and pretty much every other scandal that matters.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
Exactly. This is all symptoms of the same disease -- the Deep State taking over the government and fucking over US citizens in the process of themselves and their people getting rich and powerful.
Now I imagine we'll soon be at the point where saying there is a "Deep State" is a crazy conspiracy theory, but the same type people involved in the Hunter Laptop disinformation campaign were involved in the Epstein situation.
Probably in some cases the exact same people.
They are openly and brazenly lying to the American people. There are no repercussions for it, and they continue to do so. So if you're pissed about the fake insurrection, then you should be equally pissed by the Ukraine Op or the Epstein Op, both carried out by the same types of people.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
Exactly. This is all symptoms of the same disease -- the Deep State taking over the government and fucking over US citizens in the process of themselves and their people getting rich and powerful.
Now I imagine we'll soon be at the point where saying there is a "Deep State" is a crazy conspiracy theory, but the same type people involved in the Hunter Laptop disinformation campaign were involved in the Epstein situation.
Probably in some cases the exact same people.
They are openly and brazenly lying to the American people. There are no repercussions for it, and they continue to do so. So if you're pissed about the fake insurrection, then you should be equally pissed by the Ukraine Op or the Epstein Op, both carried out by the same types of people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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if this is a conspiracy then its the most successful conspiracy with hundreds of conspirators who are enemies with each other otherwise.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (wVcYX)
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142 72 Let’s say Epstein was primarily working for Mossad.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
Posted by: ADL at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (stEYJ)
Along those lines, just different (but similar) culprit - what if Trump and his cabinet have decided it is not in US interests, at this time, to reveal that US intelligence agencies have been controlling, through blackmail, most European Governments for at least the last 20 years? And yes, a couple of them (Almost certainly the Brits) were in on it, too.
Not to mention the consequences of revealing that the US Government has been running an underage sex trafficking ring for decades.
What would be the reaction of the American public if we found out that our staunch ally Israel was setting up an underage honeypot sex ring?
Slow down there Tucker.
Posted by: ADL at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (stEYJ)
Along those lines, just different (but similar) culprit - what if Trump and his cabinet have decided it is not in US interests, at this time, to reveal that US intelligence agencies have been controlling, through blackmail, most European Governments for at least the last 20 years? And yes, a couple of them (Almost certainly the Brits) were in on it, too.
Not to mention the consequences of revealing that the US Government has been running an underage sex trafficking ring for decades.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uWKK8)
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I suspect the List was what was already released: a list of flight logs and such.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, this. I repeat myself, but the List obsessives apparently think that Epstein kept a set of invoices naming each client and specifying the goods and services provided to each. Any real list isn't going to be more than the contact info and flight logs we already have.
The Epstein saga, on the Internet anyway, has gathered so many accretions that it's become essentially disconnected from reality and turned into a myth, partly because it's got something for everyone. The QAnon and Pizzagate people see it as proof of the elite child-trafficking ring--never mind the fact that Epstein and Maxwell were procuring underage but post-pubescent girls--i.e., disgusting but "traditional" prostitution; we're not talking about abducting five-year-olds from playgrounds, but grooming vulnerable young teenage girls. (1 of 1)
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, this. I repeat myself, but the List obsessives apparently think that Epstein kept a set of invoices naming each client and specifying the goods and services provided to each. Any real list isn't going to be more than the contact info and flight logs we already have.
The Epstein saga, on the Internet anyway, has gathered so many accretions that it's become essentially disconnected from reality and turned into a myth, partly because it's got something for everyone. The QAnon and Pizzagate people see it as proof of the elite child-trafficking ring--never mind the fact that Epstein and Maxwell were procuring underage but post-pubescent girls--i.e., disgusting but "traditional" prostitution; we're not talking about abducting five-year-olds from playgrounds, but grooming vulnerable young teenage girls. (1 of 1)
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (1pand)
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181 Did Trump make a big deal about Epstein?
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, he spoke about it at rallies, and at length on Rogan and Theo Vons podcasts (and I'm sure in other places, that's where I happened to hear him talking about it.)
I didn't watch many of his speeches, but I don't remember him ever mentioning it.
I could very easily be wrong about this, but Epstein never felt like any kind of theme of Trump's during the campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Yes, he spoke about it at rallies, and at length on Rogan and Theo Vons podcasts (and I'm sure in other places, that's where I happened to hear him talking about it.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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A single 15-year-old, high-end hooker is a tragedy; 1,000 is a statistic.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (2yoRf)
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Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)
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Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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Our Favorite President(tm) live now with the NATO guy:
https://is.gd/jkF3Ov
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (IS8kY)
Trump just absolutely ripped the Biden junta’s use of the autopen. I enjoy when he goes nuclear like that; named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
https://is.gd/jkF3Ov
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:40 AM (IS8kY)
Trump just absolutely ripped the Biden junta’s use of the autopen. I enjoy when he goes nuclear like that; named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (P/Wjn)
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182 Ah ok then we are in alignment! But TBH I hear pretty much no one in the right-o-sphere with this take.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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I came to the thought when I wondered what Massie should have done on the Rules Committee.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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I came to the thought when I wondered what Massie should have done on the Rules Committee.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)
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163 if this is a conspiracy then its the most successful conspiracy with hundreds of conspirators who are enemies with each other otherwise.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yep but he managed to get Giuffre to shut up about it legally.
a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yep but he managed to get Giuffre to shut up about it legally.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)
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@146
>>We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We know from the bits and pieces of data points that Epstein's schemes involved people from Wall Street, Academia, Politics, Tech, the f**ker was blackmailing everybody.
Again, we need to find out how a math teacher hired by Bill Barr's dad became a wall street big shot, to hob knobbing with the creme de la creme of the elite, all the while running an international underage prostitution and child **** ring that apparently trafficked to nobody.
The whole idea that this is distracting the administration from doing other sh*t is laughable.
There are 38k FBI employees and 116k DOJ employees, so this bullshit about not having the resources to devote to this is stupid.
>>We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We know from the bits and pieces of data points that Epstein's schemes involved people from Wall Street, Academia, Politics, Tech, the f**ker was blackmailing everybody.
Again, we need to find out how a math teacher hired by Bill Barr's dad became a wall street big shot, to hob knobbing with the creme de la creme of the elite, all the while running an international underage prostitution and child **** ring that apparently trafficked to nobody.
The whole idea that this is distracting the administration from doing other sh*t is laughable.
There are 38k FBI employees and 116k DOJ employees, so this bullshit about not having the resources to devote to this is stupid.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)
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188 A single 15-year-old, high-end hooker is a tragedy; 1,000 is a statistic.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (2yoRf)
Where did I leave that Wilt Chamberlain sock....
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (2yoRf)
Where did I leave that Wilt Chamberlain sock....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (VoAdT)
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We were on our way to Eating Ze Bugs!
For real.
They were trying to get rid of all animal meat.
Thank Christ we have Donald Trump.
We were on our way to Eating Ze Bugs!
For real.
They were trying to get rid of all animal meat.
Thank Christ we have Donald Trump.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (IS8kY)
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>>> My wife took my son to CostCo and he was able to buy 36 beers for less than a dollar each. Future Leader was shocked and pleased.
this is the kind of good news voters want to hear going into the midterms
this is the kind of good news voters want to hear going into the midterms
Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (jGJov)
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The mort were informers until their usefulness also expired. Period. The active & outright underhanded are government.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (NFX2v)
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We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
Assume all of these fuck wads are corrupt as Lucifer. That is the point of limiting governmental power.
Two, I have a real problem giving immunity to child sexual predators.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
Assume all of these fuck wads are corrupt as Lucifer. That is the point of limiting governmental power.
Two, I have a real problem giving immunity to child sexual predators.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)
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I came to the thought when I wondered what Massie should have done on the Rules Committee.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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But where is the 'principles' in that. Massie is simply Justin Amash part deux. And taking up with Christine Pushaw so soon after his wife died ain't helping him in his district.
Be like a reverse Ron Paul. Get specific cuts in and then vote against the whole bill because it's bad while being able to point to the cuts for his base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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But where is the 'principles' in that. Massie is simply Justin Amash part deux. And taking up with Christine Pushaw so soon after his wife died ain't helping him in his district.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:49 AM (ctrM5)
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[i189 Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
it fucking well should!!!
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
oh sure and that's not hinky at all, he simply MUST be guilty. and what a coincidence! he died in the state of NYs system!
it fucking well should!!!
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
oh sure and that's not hinky at all, he simply MUST be guilty. and what a coincidence! he died in the state of NYs system!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:49 AM (Pv3Rg)
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a funny part to me in this dark saga though is Dershowitz's denials of participation.
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
It wasn't a massage. There was no happy ending!
he got massages but not massage massages.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
*makes Call Me gesture to Dershowitz* I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
It wasn't a massage. There was no happy ending!
Posted by: Gov. Chuck Robb at July 14, 2025 11:49 AM (Riz8t)
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named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
I think she's one of the three people who were named recently as the top aides who were *really* the defacto President.
named names including someone who worked for Biden named “Lisa” if I heard him correctly. Who’s that?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
I think she's one of the three people who were named recently as the top aides who were *really* the defacto President.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (IS8kY)
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That should have been (1 of several). Anyway:
The scattered testimony we've heard from Epstein's victims shows us a repulsive prostitution ring, but also reveals that it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like. Girls who wouldn't service Jeffrey were dismissed from the island, not held there in secret dungeons or fed to alligators. It was essentially the same type of stuff that goes on in Hollywood or in the music industry; tying it to Pizzagate and Qanon is a deliberate or accidental blurring of the lines which helps no one.
The scattered testimony we've heard from Epstein's victims shows us a repulsive prostitution ring, but also reveals that it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like. Girls who wouldn't service Jeffrey were dismissed from the island, not held there in secret dungeons or fed to alligators. It was essentially the same type of stuff that goes on in Hollywood or in the music industry; tying it to Pizzagate and Qanon is a deliberate or accidental blurring of the lines which helps no one.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (1pand)
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189 Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)
I'm not certain, but i'm thinking that if it would, it would have already.
"Hey maybe we never actually had a real president and it was just a bunch of humps you never heard of wielding supreme executive authority?"
Most people were pretty much just assuming that was the case, whatever color tie they root for. Proving it ain't even going to make the needle wiggle.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)
I'm not certain, but i'm thinking that if it would, it would have already.
"Hey maybe we never actually had a real president and it was just a bunch of humps you never heard of wielding supreme executive authority?"
Most people were pretty much just assuming that was the case, whatever color tie they root for. Proving it ain't even going to make the needle wiggle.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (VoAdT)
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Thanks, Buck. Nice write up.
Posted by: scampydog at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (2bFN5)
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I suspect the List was what was already released: a list of flight logs and such.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
What the SDNY got in their intentionally narrow in scope prosecution of Epstein when they raided his Manhattan residence. A social calendar, flight manifests, and his contacts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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@121/TheJamesMadison: "*throws in Escape from LA love*"
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)
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Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
He was never convicted because he died in his jail cell before his trial.
Federal charges for sex trafficking - July 6, 2019.
Died - August 10, 2019.
So he was arrested on federal charges of sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York to NO ONE.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
He was never convicted because he died in his jail cell before his trial.
Federal charges for sex trafficking - July 6, 2019.
Died - August 10, 2019.
So he was arrested on federal charges of sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York to NO ONE.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (+bLMA)
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And I really don't like the, "but why did Trump get mad at those just asking questions?"
Hey, maybe, just maybe, he's a moment of exasperation at knowing the whole story, knowing there will be no real justice, and knowing that this is all a FUD op by the left?
And how about, after the win after win after win after win etc. Trump has delivered--as promised--this, this bullshit* is THE TOPIC of the day?
*the outrage, not the crimes, tbc.
Hey, maybe, just maybe, he's a moment of exasperation at knowing the whole story, knowing there will be no real justice, and knowing that this is all a FUD op by the left?
And how about, after the win after win after win after win etc. Trump has delivered--as promised--this, this bullshit* is THE TOPIC of the day?
*the outrage, not the crimes, tbc.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (JThEY)
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So let's look at the potential answers behind the Epstein stuff, in no particular order
1) There was no big conspiracy it was Epstein, Maxwell, Lexner and maybe a few unimportant "friends" like Prince Andrew
2) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and all the elites, including Trump, were involved
3) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But now Trump has cut some kind of deal to get some of his agenda in return for letting it go
4) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But Trump doesn't really care because it would be a lot of work to expose and Bondi is following his lead.
Those are your four options. I think #1 is impossible based on what we know. I think #2 is impossible because the Junta would have used it in late '24 to defeat Trump.
And both #3 and #4 are bad.
1) There was no big conspiracy it was Epstein, Maxwell, Lexner and maybe a few unimportant "friends" like Prince Andrew
2) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and all the elites, including Trump, were involved
3) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But now Trump has cut some kind of deal to get some of his agenda in return for letting it go
4) This was a honeypot/child sex trafficking operation and most of the elites, not including Trump, were involved. But Trump doesn't really care because it would be a lot of work to expose and Bondi is following his lead.
Those are your four options. I think #1 is impossible based on what we know. I think #2 is impossible because the Junta would have used it in late '24 to defeat Trump.
And both #3 and #4 are bad.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (t0Rmr)
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187 Yes, he spoke about it at rallies, and at length on Rogan and Theo Vons podcasts (and I'm sure in other places, that's where I happened to hear him talking about it.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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Apparently, at least one aspect of this is outright false:
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:46 AM (uCjyK)
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Apparently, at least one aspect of this is outright false:
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
lol
Some of these fucking nics....jeez...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 14, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)
Fuck you too buddy.
I mean, yours is the most fake of all time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
lol
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (IS8kY)
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There are 38k FBI employees and 116k DOJ employees, so this bullshit about not having the resources to devote to this is stupid.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)
Agreed. hell, they could have RICO'ed everyone who worked for or spent any time with Epstein if they wanted to. But they did not want to, oddly.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)
Agreed. hell, they could have RICO'ed everyone who worked for or spent any time with Epstein if they wanted to. But they did not want to, oddly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (uCjyK)
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207 Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Trump live, talking about the autopen scandal. That's going to end up pushing the Epstein horseshit off the front page. Whether people like it or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Autopen scandal. Nothing will happen. Business as usual.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Autopen scandal. Nothing will happen. Business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (+bLMA)
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208 @121/TheJamesMadison: "*throws in Escape from LA love*"
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)
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Nah. Ghosts of Mars is trash.
John Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars" has entered the chat.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)
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Nah. Ghosts of Mars is trash.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
This will never be done, ever. And it doesn't matter who the president is. There are some things that will never be truly revealed. Get used to it.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:39 AM (uCjyK)
This will never be done, ever. And it doesn't matter who the president is. There are some things that will never be truly revealed. Get used to it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)
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Britain is in no way our ally, and its time we update our foreign policy to recognize this.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)
Britan was conquered by islam and is wearing it's meat suit.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)
Britan was conquered by islam and is wearing it's meat suit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9)
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Wolfus is home and resting comfortably. He appreciates all the prayers and well wishes from earlier. Stirling and Dagny are happy to have back.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (omVj0)
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Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (1pand)
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)
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Ghost of Mars is a good movie.
Ghost of Mars is a good movie.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (IS8kY)
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When there's a video, there's a problem. When there's no video, there's no problem.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (2yoRf)
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199 We need to know who was running this Op, how infiltrated and blackmailed our institutions are, and how common these kinds of Ops are.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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More than we need one for NSA and CIA effectively spying on all our private communications? Violating the 4th Amendment? Targeting political opponents via FISA and foreign 5 eyes?
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
We need a 21st Century Church Committee on this. This should be a huge deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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More than we need one for NSA and CIA effectively spying on all our private communications? Violating the 4th Amendment? Targeting political opponents via FISA and foreign 5 eyes?
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (IS8kY)
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Then how did they convict him, and why did somone unalive him?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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Yes, he was indicted in NYC, for alleged crimes from the 2000s era. He died before the trial. Maxwell was later convicted of sex trafficking after he was dead. She's appealing that, and could win.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Who convicted him? He was never convicted of anything. He pleaded to reduced charges in FL. That's it.
Fair enough. He was indicted in NY. That's why he was in jail there.
Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in New York because he was indicted on federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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Yes, he was indicted in NYC, for alleged crimes from the 2000s era. He died before the trial. Maxwell was later convicted of sex trafficking after he was dead. She's appealing that, and could win.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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Apparently, at least one aspect of this is outright false:
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
He never mentioned Epstein on Rogan:
https://x.com/NYMag/status/
1850204748969840902
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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I see the Epstein files as more of a "want" than anything.
If I had to choose where to put resources, I'd choose the DOJ go hard after current child trafficking which took place under Biden. Epstein Island is no longer in operation. Anything which comes out now may not be usable in a court of law.
However, child sex and work slavery? Let's go hard after that and see who we catch. There may very well be some crossover between Epstein and children being trafficked during the Biden administration.
If I had to choose where to put resources, I'd choose the DOJ go hard after current child trafficking which took place under Biden. Epstein Island is no longer in operation. Anything which comes out now may not be usable in a court of law.
However, child sex and work slavery? Let's go hard after that and see who we catch. There may very well be some crossover between Epstein and children being trafficked during the Biden administration.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (tT6L1)
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I know a couple of places where gentlemen like us can go to unwind.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
Best place is Strokie Dokie in the Three Palms Strip Center near the I-95 off ramp. 10% off if you use cash.
Posted by: Robert Kraft
Best place is Strokie Dokie in the Three Palms Strip Center near the I-95 off ramp. 10% off if you use cash.
Posted by: Al Gore, Getting One Rubbed Out Now at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (rfMRc)
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227 I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (uCjyK)
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what happened to Wolfus?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (Pv3Rg)
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btw, re: Bongino
Is he a fucking imbecile? Why on earth would he be upset over this?
I don't believe it, btw. I don't believe the rumor about him wanting to quit over Bondi. Because it's so incredibly stupid, and I don't think he's stupid.
btw, re: Bongino
Is he a fucking imbecile? Why on earth would he be upset over this?
I don't believe it, btw. I don't believe the rumor about him wanting to quit over Bondi. Because it's so incredibly stupid, and I don't think he's stupid.
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (IS8kY)
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Continued again (3). Epstein gives rise to myths because there is something for everyone in his story. To normie conservatives, it's proof that creeps like the Clintons and Bill Gates are not just bad people, but Satanic cultists. To leftists, it's proof that rich people are evil, most specifically Drumpf! To the antisemites, it's proof that Israel controls all Western politicians through sexual blackmail. The connecting thread is that all these people seem Epstein as a magic bullet who exposure can be used to take down The Real Villains once and for all; the people who think this way have seen way too many movies. The truth, I think, is more mundane; he was a high-rolling pimp, nothing more--not a pedophile supplier, Satanist, Mossad agent, or whatever other image people projected on to him. It's disturbing that so many people refuse to let go of this mythos and pay attention to reality, whether it's Vox Day insisting that Trump has been replaced by a double, Musk denouncing Trump as a pedophile, or the commenters here complaining loudly about some imagined betrayal.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (1pand)
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231 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (uCjyK)
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In a September interview with podcaster Lex Fridman, Trump reiterated his openness to releasing these documents if he returned to the White House, saying, "I'd have no problem with it," and adding that he would "certainly take a look at it" if given the opportunity.
This is not a major theme of his campaign.
Maybe I was thinking of the Lex Friedman interview. Here's a short clip:
https://tinyurl.com/2xxavwmt
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (uCjyK)
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In a September interview with podcaster Lex Fridman, Trump reiterated his openness to releasing these documents if he returned to the White House, saying, "I'd have no problem with it," and adding that he would "certainly take a look at it" if given the opportunity.
This is not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
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Best place is Strokie Dokie in the Three Palms Strip Center near the I-95 off ramp. 10% off if you use cash.
At one company I worked at I started going out to lunch with my leftist cow-workers.
One time on the way home they started talking about the best Asian rub and tugs in the area. Note I was the only single guy in the group.
But...they'd also tell you how they were feminists and all that rah-rah corporate crap...
At one company I worked at I started going out to lunch with my leftist cow-workers.
One time on the way home they started talking about the best Asian rub and tugs in the area. Note I was the only single guy in the group.
But...they'd also tell you how they were feminists and all that rah-rah corporate crap...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:58 AM (t0Rmr)
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How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
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Epstein died in August 2019. Trump was President.
Investigation and Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons' Custody, Care, and Supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, New York
Investigation Division 23-085
June 2023
I wanna know more about the deaths of several J named individuals: Jimmy Hoffa, James "Whitey" Bulger, President John F. Kennedy, and more. From my experience, that's not happening.
Investigation and Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons' Custody, Care, and Supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, New York
Investigation Division 23-085
June 2023
I wanna know more about the deaths of several J named individuals: Jimmy Hoffa, James "Whitey" Bulger, President John F. Kennedy, and more. From my experience, that's not happening.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (NFX2v)
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If there's never was any evidence of criminal behavior beyond what's already public, then it makes no sense for Epstein to either kill himself or be killed.
If there is more evidence than what's already public, then *that evidence is what people who care about the "list" care about.*
If you don't think there's any evidence beyond what is already public, provide an explanation for the course of events that makes sense of things that we know happened, like Epstein's death.
If there is more evidence than what's already public, then *that evidence is what people who care about the "list" care about.*
If you don't think there's any evidence beyond what is already public, provide an explanation for the course of events that makes sense of things that we know happened, like Epstein's death.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (B9Prs)
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More than we need one for NSA and CIA effectively spying on all our private communications? Violating the 4th Amendment? Targeting political opponents via FISA and foreign 5 eyes?
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
I think it's all fair game.
I also think it's all multiple sides of the same coin. I think people seamlessly move from academia to government to the intel agencies to biglaw firms to seats on boards of directors.
Is there nothing to be done about that? We just accept that this is the way of the world? And if so, why even pretend to vote? Let the "experts" run the country and the "elites" do their corruption, graft and whatever it is they do...
Basically, the US since WWII and the Cold War, has institutionalized a shadow state where the ordinary rules of "Gentlemen Do Not Read Other's People's Mail (future and past Sec. of War Stinson when defunding signal intercepts)"
So where do we pick our battles?
What about Chicoms penetrating our infrastructure and computers, what about existing victims of human trafficking by the cartels in every damn city of the US, what about states and communities actively resisting federal immigration laws, and so on.
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
I think it's all fair game.
I also think it's all multiple sides of the same coin. I think people seamlessly move from academia to government to the intel agencies to biglaw firms to seats on boards of directors.
Is there nothing to be done about that? We just accept that this is the way of the world? And if so, why even pretend to vote? Let the "experts" run the country and the "elites" do their corruption, graft and whatever it is they do...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (uCjyK)
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I sort of like Escape from LA. Especially the ending. The two scenes I hate worst are the basketball thing and the surfing Snake scene.
Beyond that, I like it.
Never saw Ghosts of Mars.
Beyond that, I like it.
Never saw Ghosts of Mars.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (bss/y)
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good comments, Wiese
the lie that tells the truth ... that's the narrative
to the Left it's far more important and even more true than reality
so they wield it constantly, like they breathe. it's not even conscious lying. just endless manipulation to their benefit, because why not.
the lie that tells the truth ... that's the narrative
to the Left it's far more important and even more true than reality
so they wield it constantly, like they breathe. it's not even conscious lying. just endless manipulation to their benefit, because why not.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (Pv3Rg)
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It’s not either or
I want Trump to do his thing AND I want the Epstein files to be released and all the people prosecuted.
Why is this so hard?
I want Trump to do his thing AND I want the Epstein files to be released and all the people prosecuted.
Why is this so hard?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (ImXfC)
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Wolfus had his surgery this morning. It was routine and uncomplicated. He should be moving around in a couple of days.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (omVj0)
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>>I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
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Bear in mind that these podcasters themselves are notorious lovers of conspiracy theories. Their audiences thrive on them. Fielding questions from podcasters is a far cry from implying that Trump made the Epstein issue a prominent campaign plank.
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Bear in mind that these podcasters themselves are notorious lovers of conspiracy theories. Their audiences thrive on them. Fielding questions from podcasters is a far cry from implying that Trump made the Epstein issue a prominent campaign plank.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (bNf8H)
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For every criminal there is at least 1 victim. In the case of Epstein a lot if not most of his victims were children when the abuse happened. They are now adults, some with probably familes of their own.
After years of dealing with this stuff some of them might now want the past dragged up, not want their families to hear about this stuff. It could be as simple as that.
There are any number of reasons that Trump wants to put this issue to be right now. Trump has earned my trust to make decisions he thinks are in the best interest of the country and the people involved. As much as we think we've been through none of us has remotely gone through what Trump and his family have gone through at the hands of deep state criminals. He's not afraid of them, he's proven that.
I'd like to know what if any other connections Epstein had other than what I know already but I'm not going to trash Trump over this. He's delivered and continues to deliver things that are going to make my and my family's lives better for years to come. I'll give him the benefit on the doubt on this.
After years of dealing with this stuff some of them might now want the past dragged up, not want their families to hear about this stuff. It could be as simple as that.
There are any number of reasons that Trump wants to put this issue to be right now. Trump has earned my trust to make decisions he thinks are in the best interest of the country and the people involved. As much as we think we've been through none of us has remotely gone through what Trump and his family have gone through at the hands of deep state criminals. He's not afraid of them, he's proven that.
I'd like to know what if any other connections Epstein had other than what I know already but I'm not going to trash Trump over this. He's delivered and continues to deliver things that are going to make my and my family's lives better for years to come. I'll give him the benefit on the doubt on this.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m)
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How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Well the UFO stuff has always, always been something the US government uses to distract people and cover up its new high tech weapons.
Remember in the 80s when people in the midwest reported flying wing craft that were silent and didn't show up on radar? The FNM response to that was...ALIENS ARE REAL!!! Because their government sources told them so. And it worked great to hide information on stealth tech didn't it?
I expect it is in overdrive now with drone tech experiments as well
Well the UFO stuff has always, always been something the US government uses to distract people and cover up its new high tech weapons.
Remember in the 80s when people in the midwest reported flying wing craft that were silent and didn't show up on radar? The FNM response to that was...ALIENS ARE REAL!!! Because their government sources told them so. And it worked great to hide information on stealth tech didn't it?
I expect it is in overdrive now with drone tech experiments as well
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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227 I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
could be a cheapfake. or the mandala effect. or n-dimensional chess.
could be a cheapfake. or the mandala effect. or n-dimensional chess.
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (v3pYe)
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I could be mistaken about that, I suppose, and I'm not about to re-listen to a 3 hour podcast. But I definitely heard Trump on at least one of the podcasts I listened to prior to the election talking about Epstein.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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I think people are confusing what Trump said pre-election about Epstein with what people like Bongi were saying. I don't remember Trump saying much about Epstein at all. I could be wrong.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 11:55 AM (uCjyK)
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He talked a lot about immigration, about Sleepy Joe, about how dumb Kamala is.
I really don't think he talked about Epstein much, and if he mentioned it a few times, it was obviously not a major theme of his campaign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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I think people are confusing what Trump said pre-election about Epstein with what people like Bongi were saying. I don't remember Trump saying much about Epstein at all. I could be wrong.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Sherlock Soothsayer at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (IS8kY)
Posted by: Elderly Git at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (1yfci)
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It's not the people who bang teen hookers that count. It's the people who count the teen-hookers.
Posted by: zombie joseph stalin -- suddenly MAGA at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (2yoRf)
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249 I think people are confusing what Trump said pre-election about Epstein with what people like Bongi were saying. I don't remember Trump saying much about Epstein at all. I could be wrong.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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People chasing clicks on social media were harping on something? And Trump won the election?
Must mean that these social media influencers have such influence over the populace, I guess.
But I do remember people like Bongi -- who were private citizens looking for likes and hits and attention -- making a big deal about it.
So I do understand people's frustrations when the same people screeching about Epstein then are now poo-pooing it. But I don't think Trump is one of them.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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People chasing clicks on social media were harping on something? And Trump won the election?
Must mean that these social media influencers have such influence over the populace, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
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221 Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 11:50 AM (1pand)
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)
And your point? This is another example of the conflation that goes on with regard to Epstein--the fact that Frank was preying on teenage boys has nothing to do with the Epstein business, unless you're suggesting Epstein was somehow back of that too. The existence of government officials preying on teenagers does not prove that Epstein was procuring prepubescent children for nearly everyone in government, finance, and media, which is the mythic version we keep hearing about.
Barney Frank actually had a homo escort service run out of his home where certainly there were underage boys for their chicken hawk clients.
He continued to be a powerful Congressman.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)
And your point? This is another example of the conflation that goes on with regard to Epstein--the fact that Frank was preying on teenage boys has nothing to do with the Epstein business, unless you're suggesting Epstein was somehow back of that too. The existence of government officials preying on teenagers does not prove that Epstein was procuring prepubescent children for nearly everyone in government, finance, and media, which is the mythic version we keep hearing about.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 12:02 PM (1pand)
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241 I sort of like Escape from LA. Especially the ending. The two scenes I hate worst are the basketball thing and the surfing Snake scene.
basketball jones > basketball thing
basketball jones > basketball thing
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:02 PM (v3pYe)
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237 How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
People are also mad about that. Some of the JFK files have been released, and it's long been speculated / known that Dulles, Helms, and Angleton destroyed a lot of files on their ways out. So it's possible there really is nothing else to release. I don't think anyone thought there would be a "here's how the CIA killed JFK" file.
With UFO's -- it's very possible there truly is nothing there. Some might even say likely.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
People are also mad about that. Some of the JFK files have been released, and it's long been speculated / known that Dulles, Helms, and Angleton destroyed a lot of files on their ways out. So it's possible there really is nothing else to release. I don't think anyone thought there would be a "here's how the CIA killed JFK" file.
With UFO's -- it's very possible there truly is nothing there. Some might even say likely.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (uCjyK)
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I have no idea whether or not Epstein ran child pedo rings to blackmail prominent people…
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (P/Wjn)
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HERE:
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON | The National News Desk Mon, July 14th 2025
Newsweek: Donald Trump Ally Reacts to Ghislaine Maxwell Testifying About Epstein, Published Jul 14, 2025
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON | The National News Desk Mon, July 14th 2025
Newsweek: Donald Trump Ally Reacts to Ghislaine Maxwell Testifying About Epstein, Published Jul 14, 2025
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (NFX2v)
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Welcome to the clown world: justice is dead.
Posted by: kilroy at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (QMNUD)
Oh for fucks sake... Grow the fuck up. We are SIX FUCKING MONTHS into Trump term. He is working his ass off to make life better for ALL Americans.
But whoa! he isn't laser focused on your specific priorities and suddenly "justice is dead"? Shut the fuck up with that shit.
Grow. The Fuck. Up.
Posted by: kilroy at July 14, 2025 11:44 AM (QMNUD)
Oh for fucks sake... Grow the fuck up. We are SIX FUCKING MONTHS into Trump term. He is working his ass off to make life better for ALL Americans.
But whoa! he isn't laser focused on your specific priorities and suddenly "justice is dead"? Shut the fuck up with that shit.
Grow. The Fuck. Up.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (2J/Lj)
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The pedos that Epstein catered to have not given up their predilection. PDT has / is doing more than anyone ever has to find and convict these people. The fuckers may just get caught in another net.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 12:03 PM (HFcKg)
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Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rm
dopnt disagree. Just pointing out that Trump didn't confirm a list and then back out.
He just promised to have info released just like he did with JFK and UFOs. Like I said he's a fan of government conspiracies and exposing them. He was all over Obama's birth certificate too.
dopnt disagree. Just pointing out that Trump didn't confirm a list and then back out.
He just promised to have info released just like he did with JFK and UFOs. Like I said he's a fan of government conspiracies and exposing them. He was all over Obama's birth certificate too.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (VofaG)
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Basically, what anyone who raided anyone's home would get: a bunch of crap that proves nothing. There are probably thousands of people on his contacts, from his driver to his dentist to his drug dealers to his booty calls to his mother to his gym membership relation manager. He was a major player in NY social and political circles. Probably every politician and wall street heavy hitter is in his contacts.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:51 AM (iFTx/)
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Listen, man, the only way the plumber got into Epstein's place was through kompromat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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People like Bongino (before joining the FBI), or Steve Bannon, or Vox Day, or 90% of Breitbart and Town Hall's columnists, are engagement farmers and clickbait artists who say what they think their audiences want to hear, and who don't expect to be held responsible for their rhetoric; Bongino made the mistake of jumping from podcasting into government, where you might actually get raked over the coals for spouting nonsense.
Posted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (1pand)
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:04 PM (AOsQT)
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also my nic is real and spectacular
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (AOsQT)
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The connecting thread is that all these people seem Epstein as a magic bullet who exposure can be used to take down The Real Villains once and for all; the people who think this way have seen way too many movies. The truth, I think, is more mundane; he was a high-rolling pimp, nothing more--not a pedophile supplier, Satanist, Mossad agent, or whatever other image people projected on to him.
So he committed suicide because he was a run of the mill adult Huggy Bear pimp.
😂😂😂😂
*Heide Fleiss has entered the chat.
So he committed suicide because he was a run of the mill adult Huggy Bear pimp.
😂😂😂😂
*Heide Fleiss has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (+bLMA)
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Trump ran on many issues. Dismissing the Epstein lists and videos as unimportant is telling people whose main issue was transparency to pound sand. I'm old enough to not give a shit if it all goes down the toilet over this issue. Releasing the Epstein material is the political equivalent of wiping ones ass after shitting.
Trump does wipe his ass after shitting?
Trump does wipe his ass after shitting?
Posted by: Marooned at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (kt8QE)
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257 I have no idea whether or not Epstein ran child pedo rings to blackmail prominent people…
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
I think it's an almost universally held opinion that he was guilty, and that he didn't kill himself. Regardless, we should be able to do both things at once. This isn't a matter of DOJ being overloaded; they have plenty of resources. That's why people look so askance at the whole thing.
I will say I don’t think he killed himself and there’s probably more we’ll never hear about.
However I’m adamant I don’t want the whole furor to derail Trump’s second term. Whatever was (or wasn’t) happening is no longer going on so that’s good enough for me
I think it's an almost universally held opinion that he was guilty, and that he didn't kill himself. Regardless, we should be able to do both things at once. This isn't a matter of DOJ being overloaded; they have plenty of resources. That's why people look so askance at the whole thing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:05 PM (Riz8t)
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263. "...engagement farmers and clickbait artists who say what they think their audiences want to hear, and who don't expect to be held responsible for their rhetoric;..."
And Congress.
And Congress.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (NFX2v)
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The two aren't mutually exclusive.
America First advocates can both be vociferously outraged and demand action in regards to the Epstein matter and still be in support of the rest of Trump's other agendas.
This "we can't risk it by being divided" is a weak sauce attempt at guilting people to suck it up and forget about it, or else you'll lose your deportations and tax cuts if we all one big kumbaya drum circle.
America First advocates can both be vociferously outraged and demand action in regards to the Epstein matter and still be in support of the rest of Trump's other agendas.
This "we can't risk it by being divided" is a weak sauce attempt at guilting people to suck it up and forget about it, or else you'll lose your deportations and tax cuts if we all one big kumbaya drum circle.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (6BNWj)
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With UFO's -- it's very possible there truly is nothing there. Some might even say likely.
I watched a guy make a compelling case that even the first big "aliens are here" moment, Roswell, was the government trying to hide stuff - namely that they had former Axis scientists building radiation detection balloons and doing radiation experiments on corpses - all things the US government did in fact do.
I watched a guy make a compelling case that even the first big "aliens are here" moment, Roswell, was the government trying to hide stuff - namely that they had former Axis scientists building radiation detection balloons and doing radiation experiments on corpses - all things the US government did in fact do.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)
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osted by: Wiese at July 14, 2025 12:02 P
Everyone is so defensive here. My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Everyone is so defensive here. My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
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HERE:
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON
THERE WAS NO SCHEME! She pimped underaged girls to Epstein ONLY.
At least, that's what people keep telling me.
KFOX-14, Maxwell offers to testify before Congress on Epstein's sex trafficking scheme
by ELAINE MALLON
THERE WAS NO SCHEME! She pimped underaged girls to Epstein ONLY.
At least, that's what people keep telling me.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (+bLMA)
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I watched a guy make a compelling case that even the first big "aliens are here" moment, Roswell, was the government trying to hide stuff - namely that they had former Axis scientists building radiation detection balloons and doing radiation experiments on corpses - all things the US government did in fact do.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)
Yes, I think it's highly likely the whole UFO thing was / is a distraction / cover story for experimental government technology.
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)
Yes, I think it's highly likely the whole UFO thing was / is a distraction / cover story for experimental government technology.
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Nathan Thurm at July 14, 2025 12:09 PM (Riz8t)
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If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:09 PM (tT6L1)
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I just checked my own contacts on my phone. 1500 contacts. And I'm a nobody compared to Epstein. And yes, my contacts include my drivers to my dentist to my drug dealer to my booty calls to my mom, to a whole bunch of contacts who I don't even remember who they are.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
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Everyone in NYC has (or had) contacts for drivers. This was from before the Uber era. Now people just use Uber.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Ooooh, look who has drivers. Pardon moi, your majesty.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
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Everyone in NYC has (or had) contacts for drivers. This was from before the Uber era. Now people just use Uber.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
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If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
Agree.
Agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (Riz8t)
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Yes, I think it's highly likely the whole UFO thing was / is a distraction / cover story for experimental government technology.
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
You just made me think of Gillian Anderson. Thank you
I'd imagine there was also a pys op part of it -- get the USSR to think the US is working with aliens to create crazy weapons.
But I could be wrong on that, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
You just made me think of Gillian Anderson. Thank you
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (P/Wjn)
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@277
>>If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
She'll be dead within a week of any scheduled testimony.
>>If Congress take Maxwell up on her offer, it says a lot. If Congress passes, well, let's just say it's not a good look.
She'll be dead within a week of any scheduled testimony.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (XV/Pl)
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (2GCMq)
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272.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (NFX2v)
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Decades of GOP fecklessness have poisoned the well so that when someone actually does run up against something they can't do anything about right now, it looks suspiciously exactly like fecklessness, whether it is or isn't.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (VoAdT)
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204 The scattered testimony we've heard from Epstein's victims shows us a repulsive prostitution ring, but also reveals that it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like. Girls who wouldn't service Jeffrey were dismissed from the island, not held there in secret dungeons or fed to alligators. It was essentially the same type of stuff that goes on in Hollywood or in the music industry; tying it to Pizzagate and Qanon is a deliberate or accidental blurring of the lines which helps no one.
...except those on the list. nudge, nudge, say no more!
...except those on the list. nudge, nudge, say no more!
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (v3pYe)
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>>THERE WAS NO SCHEME! She pimped underaged girls to Epstein ONLY.
>>At least, that's what people keep telling me.
No, what people keep saying in response to the question "Why is Maxwell in prison?" is simply that the only person Maxwell is convicted of trafficking kids to is Epstein. Nobody else.
That doesn't mean there weren't others. It simply means her conviction only involved Epstein.
>>At least, that's what people keep telling me.
No, what people keep saying in response to the question "Why is Maxwell in prison?" is simply that the only person Maxwell is convicted of trafficking kids to is Epstein. Nobody else.
That doesn't mean there weren't others. It simply means her conviction only involved Epstein.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (viF8m)
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One thing is for sure, if aliens are real, want them deported back to whatever planet they came here from.
I don't give a shit if Elon wants to give the H1B visas.
I don't give a shit if Elon wants to give the H1B visas.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (6BNWj)
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yeah, you got any Grey Poopon or what
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (AOsQT)
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‘Bigoted White Boys’: Newly-appointed California Assistant City Manager Faces Backlash Over Alleged Social Media Posts Targeting White People
Media commentator and Mother Jones co-founder Adam Hochschild also weighed in, urging readers to consider how the same words would be received if aimed at a different group. “If I do that with this quote, it would read, ‘Black women marry bigoted black men and birth and raise bigoted black boys.’ I would feel it was racist,” he said. “And I think the same thing applies if it’s White instead of Black. Or if one substitutes anything else — Asian, Mexican — anything else.”
Media commentator and Mother Jones co-founder Adam Hochschild also weighed in, urging readers to consider how the same words would be received if aimed at a different group. “If I do that with this quote, it would read, ‘Black women marry bigoted black men and birth and raise bigoted black boys.’ I would feel it was racist,” he said. “And I think the same thing applies if it’s White instead of Black. Or if one substitutes anything else — Asian, Mexican — anything else.”
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (RHGPo)
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69 out of the 110 attorneys that specialize in defending the government have left or announced they are leaving.
In the midst of the Trump administration facing more lawsuits than probably the last 10 Presidents combined.
And they are still firing attorneys at the DOJ.
Whatever level of rot you assigned to the DOJ, you need to up it by a factor of 10.
But sure, keep demanding he divert resources to a case against the most powerful and rich, with allies embedded for decades at all levels of government, where all the evidence is spoiled, tainted or lost, ensuring there'll be no convictions.
Because if we don't, "we're supporting letting child predators go free!!!"
In the midst of the Trump administration facing more lawsuits than probably the last 10 Presidents combined.
And they are still firing attorneys at the DOJ.
Whatever level of rot you assigned to the DOJ, you need to up it by a factor of 10.
But sure, keep demanding he divert resources to a case against the most powerful and rich, with allies embedded for decades at all levels of government, where all the evidence is spoiled, tainted or lost, ensuring there'll be no convictions.
Because if we don't, "we're supporting letting child predators go free!!!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (JThEY)
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Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (2GCMq)
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[Golf clap]
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 12:10 PM (2GCMq)
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[Golf clap]
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
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283 272.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
asking is just polite demanding.
My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes
Frustration over 'nicely' demanding but not being heard.
asking is just polite demanding.
Posted by: the wisdom of max headroom at July 14, 2025 12:11 PM (v3pYe)
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Everyone is so defensive here. My point which I guess I thought was obvious from my other posts is that some on the Right always seem to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding we do things that we don't demand from the Left.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)
We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
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282 Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Dang, Fen made a risque, grammar Nazi joke. What is happening?
Invest in commas. My guess is that you are not having booty calls to your mom. You're the one with all the hot chicks.
Dang, Fen made a risque, grammar Nazi joke. What is happening?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (Riz8t)
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So I'm supposed to just go along with wealthy and powerful people doing bad things to kids because Republicans might lose some seats if I don't?
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
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288 yeah, you got any Grey Poopon or what
ah. i see i'm not the only one who missed the art thread.
someone needs to tell cbd about the cha-cha method of taking 3d pictures.
ah. i see i'm not the only one who missed the art thread.
someone needs to tell cbd about the cha-cha method of taking 3d pictures.
Posted by: anachronda at July 14, 2025 12:13 PM (v3pYe)
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also, if you put a slice of French bread in the toaster, and you toast it, did you just make French toast?
disclaimer: I like toast.
disclaimer: I like toast.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:13 PM (AOsQT)
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295 So I'm supposed to just go along with wealthy and powerful people doing bad things to kids because Republicans might lose some seats if I don't?
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
The blackmailed pedophile with an R behind his name might accidentally align with something you want done more than the blackmailed pedophile with a D behind his name would, so send $5 to the RNC today!
That's politics, baby.
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
The blackmailed pedophile with an R behind his name might accidentally align with something you want done more than the blackmailed pedophile with a D behind his name would, so send $5 to the RNC today!
That's politics, baby.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:14 PM (uCjyK)
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Fun Fact: The President and First Lady will travel to the UK in September for an official state visit.
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Funner fact:
They just gave Macron the full royalty treatment, with all the regal pomp and circumstance.
While Trump's is set to be a mere business formality, with emphasis on their instructions he is not permitted to speak to Parliament.
Fuck the UK, let them stew in the muzzie death pot they built.
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Funner fact:
They just gave Macron the full royalty treatment, with all the regal pomp and circumstance.
While Trump's is set to be a mere business formality, with emphasis on their instructions he is not permitted to speak to Parliament.
Fuck the UK, let them stew in the muzzie death pot they built.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:15 PM (JThEY)
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So I'm supposed to just go along with wealthy and powerful people doing bad things to kids because Republicans might lose some seats if I don't?
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
You seem to have a supremely overinflated view of the importance of your single vote. Or you’re engaging in hyperbole for effect….
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
You seem to have a supremely overinflated view of the importance of your single vote. Or you’re engaging in hyperbole for effect….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:15 PM (5MZNC)
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We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
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@nicksortor
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🚨 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci’s “pardon” CONFIRMED to have be done by autopen and received late-night approval from a White House aide, per NYT
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🚨 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci’s “pardon” CONFIRMED to have be done by autopen and received late-night approval from a White House aide, per NYT
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (AOsQT)
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Hmm, go after the auto pen pardons or Epstein?
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: Why even vote at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kB+Uw)
you vote Dem anyway troll so good for Trump.
you vote Dem anyway troll so good for Trump.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (VofaG)
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I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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Hmm, go after the auto pen pardons or Epstein?
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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"Sorry, Vlads, I can't pick up the phone this week, i'm too busy deciding on if I care more about fake pardons or a dead pimp right now."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (VoAdT)
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Trump will make Charlie look small in more ways than one.
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (AOsQT)
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I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
They are creatively bankrupt.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
They are creatively bankrupt.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t)
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Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
If they're not going after the Epstein situation, they're not going to go after any of the other Deep State shenanigans.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
If they're not going after the Epstein situation, they're not going to go after any of the other Deep State shenanigans.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (uCjyK)
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301 We demand things from the right that we cannot get from the left.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
It's the overall point. Where's the transparency and accountability?
Ya know what, I'd be just as happy to see Fauci get it. Or some opening on Seth Rich.
Let the damn chips fall, already.
They were wholly uninterested in Epstein. They run on a complete defense of the establishment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
Why did we ignore the Frank scandal except maybe a few Hurumphs. Now all the sudden some on the right want to go scorch earth about a 20 year old scandal that will do nothing but damage Trump and its not even a Trump scandal.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
It's the overall point. Where's the transparency and accountability?
Ya know what, I'd be just as happy to see Fauci get it. Or some opening on Seth Rich.
Let the damn chips fall, already.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (KbCG3)
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303 Hmm, go after the auto pen pardons or Epstein?
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
I want Fauci and company prosecuted. If they needed pardons then they're open to criminal charges.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Forsaking Further Conservative Victories Because of “Epstein Disappointment” is not Principled, It’s Surrender
—Buck Throckmorton
This x 1000
—Buck Throckmorton
This x 1000
Posted by: MAC V SOG at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (P4Pk9)
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Great post. Epstein is dead and good riddance. Our future as a nation has nothing to do with his dead, decaying corpse. Get over it.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (7Ygbv)
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305 I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
Disney hates spending money on IP.
I’ll let TJM explain the Lucasfilm, Marvel, and Fox acquisitions.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
Disney hates spending money on IP.
I’ll let TJM explain the Lucasfilm, Marvel, and Fox acquisitions.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (TJLr1)
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Great post. Well-reasoned and articulated. Thanks.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (FhMCZ)
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305 I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Buck, I agree 1000%.
I still have confidence that Patel and Bongino will achieve a lot in the fight to peal back the deep state corruption (Bondi, I'm not as confident).
And it blows my mind that there's a sliver of MAGA voters who are willing to blow up the Trump administration (and cede control to the communists who want to imprison you in a lifetime of misery and poverty), just because they are angry about this one issue.
Trump's a couple hundred days into a 1,500 day term that I believe will save America, or at least delay its death. I'm not willing to give up on him over this issue.
I still have confidence that Patel and Bongino will achieve a lot in the fight to peal back the deep state corruption (Bondi, I'm not as confident).
And it blows my mind that there's a sliver of MAGA voters who are willing to blow up the Trump administration (and cede control to the communists who want to imprison you in a lifetime of misery and poverty), just because they are angry about this one issue.
Trump's a couple hundred days into a 1,500 day term that I believe will save America, or at least delay its death. I'm not willing to give up on him over this issue.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (FUliT)
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No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
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Funny that. I couldn't look in the mirror without feeling disgusted if I did anything to help a Democrat get elected.
No, I don't care if every Republican loses. I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror without feeling disgust.
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Funny that. I couldn't look in the mirror without feeling disgusted if I did anything to help a Democrat get elected.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (qBdHI)
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If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Peter Bootygig at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (1yfci)
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Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree. The DOJ may very well be stretched thin, what with people getting fired, going after Antifa, ICE protesters, etc.
Plus, Fauci can still be indicted, I believe. Whereas I'm not sure Epstein clients can be.
Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree. The DOJ may very well be stretched thin, what with people getting fired, going after Antifa, ICE protesters, etc.
Plus, Fauci can still be indicted, I believe. Whereas I'm not sure Epstein clients can be.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (tT6L1)
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Sheesh…. Mike Gallagher flogging the Curtis Sliwa campaign on the radio. I grant Sliwa is a good guy but why ask people to vote for him? He has no chance and it just helps the Muslim commie
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (5MZNC)
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314 Great post. Epstein is dead and good riddance. Our future as a nation has nothing to do with his dead, decaying corpse. Get over it.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (7Ygbv)
You don't think so? Because I think an underaged honepot run by the CIA to compromise our politicians, CEOs, scientists, etc. heavily implicates the future of the nation.
Especially since they got away with it, unharmed.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (7Ygbv)
You don't think so? Because I think an underaged honepot run by the CIA to compromise our politicians, CEOs, scientists, etc. heavily implicates the future of the nation.
Especially since they got away with it, unharmed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (uCjyK)
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320 If I understand the latest development in the autopen scandal, it's that aides have admitted to presenting one group of people to pardon in a batch to Biden, Biden approved the batch, and then the aides changed the composition of the batch, getting sign off from an aide rather than Biden himself to use the autopen for the adjusted batch.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
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I'd read the content of such a post!
If I could read, that is.
I'm anticipating an imminent Ace post on this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Riz8t)
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I'd read the content of such a post!
If I could read, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
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Conspiracy nuts are incurable retards who will never be satisfied by the truth.
No one can ever give them what they want and they will inevitably stab you in the back because in their mind all of their allies eventually become a part of the "cover-up".
No one can ever give them what they want and they will inevitably stab you in the back because in their mind all of their allies eventually become a part of the "cover-up".
Posted by: Sjg at July 14, 2025 12:21 PM (aqZN1)
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I'm convinced this has become, if not in origin now in praxis, a psy-ops to turn MAGA against Trump and itself.
I've been noting the same stock phrases on various platforms, as if from AI bots and trolls. They're swamping the comments sections at TGP. One reaction to my calls to reject the hysteria was noteworthy: I was called a "Jew lover." I never made any reference to Israel. Suddenly the unhinged rage made sense. It isn't about pedos, it's about Epstein being a Jew and maybe a Mossad agent?
I've been noting the same stock phrases on various platforms, as if from AI bots and trolls. They're swamping the comments sections at TGP. One reaction to my calls to reject the hysteria was noteworthy: I was called a "Jew lover." I never made any reference to Israel. Suddenly the unhinged rage made sense. It isn't about pedos, it's about Epstein being a Jew and maybe a Mossad agent?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (WHfpM)
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305 I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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No need for a remake for it.
The Black Hole is a religious film masquerading as sci-fi.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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No need for a remake for it.
The Black Hole is a religious film masquerading as sci-fi.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (YxG/6)
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Ace is up.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (dPfyF)
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It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (tT6L1)
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They just gave Macron the full royalty treatment, with all the regal pomp and circumstance.
______ _________ _____
Was this before or after they signed the immigration deal where for every "asylum seeker" they deport, they take on another one from France.
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Was this before or after they signed the immigration deal where for every "asylum seeker" they deport, they take on another one from France.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (BUCrD)
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Why either/or? If they can't do both with their resources, they need to get new people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree.
Das ist verboten!
*sighs, breaks out Bic lighter*
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)
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In this, we may disagree.
Das ist verboten!
*sighs, breaks out Bic lighter*
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (Riz8t)
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How come no one is mad that nothing came out of the promises to release the JFK info and the UFO info?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
Because no one is being raped by JFK and aliens right now. Probably.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)
Because no one is being raped by JFK and aliens right now. Probably.
Posted by: ... at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (Qr870)
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21 "Lack of prosecutions." Anyone who thought there would be a single arrest -- let along prosecution -- of any of the Biden-era criminals is smoking alien hopeium.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
Arrests, Extra-judicial vigilance killings; Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
Arrests, Extra-judicial vigilance killings; Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (UnA8+)
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it's not the lurid, slaves-chained-in-basement stuff that so much of the rhetoric makes it sound like
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https://is.gd/Axs2Ln
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (L/fGl)
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Why are we protecting the Left?
They wouldn't give us that courtesy.
They wouldn't give us that courtesy.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (DoOmQ)
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I wasn't aware that there is massive demand for this.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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BH is old enough and from a primitive time so that a remake with modern budgets and effects isn't a crazy idea. But if BH is remade, it will be remade like a pile of steaming dogshit. It'll be a bunch of gay DEI girlbosses. Maybe the bad guy will be a straight white guy. Maybe.
Edgar Wright in Talks with Disney to Direct “The Black Hole” Remake
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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He's wanted to make it for years.
Disney is desperate for "safe" IP to invest in.
If you want to remake recognizable things, you're going to find work in Hollywood, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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BH is old enough and from a primitive time so that a remake with modern budgets and effects isn't a crazy idea. But if BH is remade, it will be remade like a pile of steaming dogshit. It'll be a bunch of gay DEI girlbosses. Maybe the bad guy will be a straight white guy. Maybe.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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330 It doesn't touch the big name individuals like Fauci, but was more of the group of clemency pardons (he pardoned like 8000 people in his final weeks).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (tT6L1)
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I suspect the big name pardons were done right. Too much riding on those to have any question about Biden's plenary power of pardon to arise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, raining on my parade with facts is hurtful.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 14, 2025 12:22 PM (tT6L1)
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I suspect the big name pardons were done right. Too much riding on those to have any question about Biden's plenary power of pardon to arise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
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337 BH is old enough and from a primitive time so that a remake with modern budgets and effects isn't a crazy idea. But if BH is remade, it will be remade like a pile of steaming dogshit. It'll be a bunch of gay DEI girlbosses. Maybe the bad guy will be a straight white guy. Maybe.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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I saw the original once.
It was dull.
Seems like a perfect thing to remake.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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I saw the original once.
It was dull.
Seems like a perfect thing to remake.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Did I call it, or what?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (Riz8t)
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The President doesn't have the luxury of a Hollywood ending to the Trolley-car Dilemma.
He, Trump, has to chose who dies.
Order the captain to proceed to certain death.
And the left has us on the right screaming and yelling that Trump must save everyone on the tracks.
As students of the Greek tragedies know, it's a tragedy because both choices are morally correct.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
He, Trump, has to chose who dies.
Order the captain to proceed to certain death.
And the left has us on the right screaming and yelling that Trump must save everyone on the tracks.
As students of the Greek tragedies know, it's a tragedy because both choices are morally correct.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (JThEY)
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We elected Trump and he chose the heads of various agencies, but the vast majority of the government personnel remained. Like it or not, Trump is limited in what and how fast he can change things.
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 12:24 PM (EcHpA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (L/fGl)
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Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 14, 2025 12:19 PM (KbCG3)
The overall point is not to forfeit the wins we have and the momentum for more wins because some internet and conservative pundits didn't get a list from a 20 year old scandal . Where was this kind of demand for a 'list' prior to Trump 47? Sounds like a opposition operation to me.
The overall point is not to forfeit the wins we have and the momentum for more wins because some internet and conservative pundits didn't get a list from a 20 year old scandal . Where was this kind of demand for a 'list' prior to Trump 47? Sounds like a opposition operation to me.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 12:25 PM (VofaG)
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As students of the Greek tragedies know, it's a tragedy because both choices are morally correct.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
You know, like election day.
And both lead to unpalpable outcomes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
You know, like election day.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (L/fGl)
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We would know more about what Trump said at his rallys if the media had been broadcasting at any besides Butler.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 12:27 PM (lPvx2)
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#325 Not one smigeon of corruption.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:28 PM (DoOmQ)
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Trump should take the same attitude the Junta took against the J6 protestors and crank it to 11. Every Epstein client, every BLM/antifa leader, every Fauci minion should be looking at the J6 process on steroids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
Just try it!!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
Just try it!!
Posted by: Judge Lavelle LaBelle Traffic Court Springfield Illinois at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (5xuJ/)
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July 14, 1918
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Lt. Quentin Roosevelt of the Army Air Service was killed in action during a dog fight with German fighters. He was hit in the head with two bullets.
He was not yet 21 when he died.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 12:30 PM (6iQ9H)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 12:31 PM (NFX2v)
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okay I had to look up 'praxis'
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (AOsQT)
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BH is racist.
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:34 PM (DoOmQ)
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Nood... just talking to myself, I guess
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (EcHpA)
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Why would you not want to know who frequented Epstein's homes or island? Because it puts too much fucking pressure on Pres. Trump? Plezzz. This sexual pedator had been protected by powerful people in this country for a couple of decades. To sweep it under the carpet when we have the chance to see who the scum are, so we don't vote for them or patronize their companies is quite shameful.
Posted by: Too bad at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (Uy/WF)
Posted by: Don Black at July 14, 2025 12:37 PM (AOsQT)
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Notice leftists are not yelling in unison to release the Epstein materials.
Maybe right before the next elections?
Maybe right before the next elections?
Posted by: torabora at July 14, 2025 12:50 PM (DoOmQ)
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I say let GOD sort out the Epstein situation in His way, and let President Trump perform the tasks GOD has ordained in the temporal.
Posted by: Eromero at July 14, 2025 01:02 PM (Vuu9Y)
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Trump never ran on the Epstien nonsense ... I didn't vote for him becasue of it ... if it gets exposed and prosecuted thats great ... but if it doesn't thats fine too ... my life doesn't change because of it ... Trump advancing his immigration, tax and energy policies DOES effect my life ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 14, 2025 01:07 PM (DBAaD)
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Spot on, Buck. Take the victories and "keep your powder dry and hair unlit". I think (or at least hope) Trump has a plan to take care of the perps while preserving his agenda. It's a delicate trick to pull off. Like I said many times, the demokkkrats just think he was playing golf for the past four years. He was, of course, but he was also planning all of this.
Posted by: FINGERS at July 14, 2025 01:12 PM (C8ve7)
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Agreed.
Posted by: Miken at July 14, 2025 01:19 PM (lh8S0)
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"Count me among the people who would very much like to see justice come to everyone who committed a crime in their association with Jeffrey Epstein."
It's not about justice for crimes. It's about the fact that America is run by people who are (still) being blackmailed.
It's not about justice for crimes. It's about the fact that America is run by people who are (still) being blackmailed.
Posted by: Jerome at July 14, 2025 01:40 PM (zIg45)
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There is absolutely no distance many in MAGA won't travel to let Trump off the hook.
He fucked up. And opening his pants and whipping out his giant tariffs isn't going to make this one go away. As it turns out, a portion of his base cars about trafficked kids as more than a campaign promise.
And yes, Dark Lord--he DID run on it.
The undertone of Trump's TS post about this says "Hey MAGA: Close your fucking mouth."
He fucked up. And opening his pants and whipping out his giant tariffs isn't going to make this one go away. As it turns out, a portion of his base cars about trafficked kids as more than a campaign promise.
And yes, Dark Lord--he DID run on it.
The undertone of Trump's TS post about this says "Hey MAGA: Close your fucking mouth."
Posted by: Marleys Ghost at July 14, 2025 01:55 PM (uxXx0)
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Trump and the Republicans can do two things (or even more!) at the same time, and we his supporters do not need to blindly accept nonsense and stonewalling about one thing (the Epstein saga) in order to support Trump.
I for one am thoroughly sick of being lied to. I continue to hold out hope that the Epstein drama is a head-fake. But I'm not buying what they are selling, without a believable explanation.
I for one am thoroughly sick of being lied to. I continue to hold out hope that the Epstein drama is a head-fake. But I'm not buying what they are selling, without a believable explanation.
Posted by: boatbuilder at July 14, 2025 02:19 PM (cGUxH)
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"But I also fear that whatever evidence existed has likely been destroyed, and that the lore regarding “Epstein Island” may exceed the actual crimes."
I feel you people are making excuses.
Excuses do not win wars.
We are at war w/ the Left.
Our elected representation, our politicians, are compromised and are being blackmailed. Do we have civilian govt, or do our reps act in accordance to their blackmailers and pivot when told to jump?
This is a huge civics test, and to me it looks like a failure.
I feel you people are making excuses.
Excuses do not win wars.
We are at war w/ the Left.
Our elected representation, our politicians, are compromised and are being blackmailed. Do we have civilian govt, or do our reps act in accordance to their blackmailers and pivot when told to jump?
This is a huge civics test, and to me it looks like a failure.
Posted by: mossomo at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (mttHV)
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"My guess is that it would make it way too clear that the US Government was involved in honeypot operations using underaged girls. Epstein was one of 'our' operatives, I expect."
Your guess is the same as mine.
They could have said as much with appropriate language. Instead we get "...nothing to see here. You can trust us."
And I don't really care all that much about who may or not have been involved. Just don't ask me to buy this crap.
Your guess is the same as mine.
They could have said as much with appropriate language. Instead we get "...nothing to see here. You can trust us."
And I don't really care all that much about who may or not have been involved. Just don't ask me to buy this crap.
Posted by: boatbuilder at July 14, 2025 02:27 PM (cGUxH)
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Anonymous Conservative suggests Trump is smart enough to know his approach is not going to work, but he did it anyways. Which means he doesn't want it to work.
So he walks into a meeting of the CIA, Mossad, and MI6 chiefs, and spreads his hands wide 'I held up my end of the deal. I tried gentlemen. It failed. Unfortunately, the American People are at the door with ropes. I'd pray to Jesus for your souls, but since you all are followers of Lucifer, I'm not sure what good that would do. You have about three minutes to repent before you swing. Bye!"
So he walks into a meeting of the CIA, Mossad, and MI6 chiefs, and spreads his hands wide 'I held up my end of the deal. I tried gentlemen. It failed. Unfortunately, the American People are at the door with ropes. I'd pray to Jesus for your souls, but since you all are followers of Lucifer, I'm not sure what good that would do. You have about three minutes to repent before you swing. Bye!"
Posted by: Eric2 at July 14, 2025 02:47 PM (HMtpY)
Mid-Morning Art Thread
Sarah Lucas Why three? Because I had to look at it, and I am a big believer in sharing the pain. This was in the modern art gallery of the Tate Britain, which is an otherwise wonderful museum, filled with great British art. For some unfathomable reason, they feel that this sort of stuff deserves to be seen. They are wrong. This is the blurb about it.
In Inferno, two walnuts and a cigar become makeshift genitalia. The warm lightbulb glowing in the bowl suggests a fiery underworld. The toilet is an intimate place and a regular subject for Sarah Lucas. Throughout her work, everyday objects are playfully transformed to expose the mischievous, destructive and vulnerable parts of life. Humour is central to her work, often creating a sense of unease. Lucas says, ‘When humour happens, things get good. Less depressing. It's a kind of magic. Suddenly things make sense.’Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:30 AM (+bLMA)
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Yikes. Someone needs a colonoscopy to figure that shit out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (2OJI2)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (Q4IgG)
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Ooohhhkaaay...
Posted by: Ummm at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (XQo4F)
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Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.
Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM
Sarah should probably seek therapy.
Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM
Sarah should probably seek therapy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (dPfyF)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (6iQ9H)
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Yikes. Someone needs a colonoscopy to figure that shit out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM
ISWYDT.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM
ISWYDT.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (dPfyF)
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Hey, this isn't the FWP thread!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (PiwSw)
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Miss Lucas has deep and unresolved feelings about her early childhood. I'd like to study and help her.
Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (wVcYX)
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I'd definitely piss in it, feigning ignorance.
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (0Id0S)
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Oh, FFS
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (GbwPZ)
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fART
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (BHrzb)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (HZi96)
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And the Stop Oil people never seem to throw tomato soup on pieces like this. Wonder why that is?
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (0Id0S)
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Does Sarah also make paintings with her menstrual blood?
Asked no one with a lick of sanity ever.
Asked no one with a lick of sanity ever.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (6iQ9H)
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Sarah isn't the only one who needs an intervention.
Posted by: Sarah's innumerable cats at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (XQo4F)
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And I can smell it from here.
Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (2OJI2)
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What a shifty exhibit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (ynpvh)
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Miss Lucas, you know you really need some help. A regular psychiatrist couldn't even help you. You need to come to like Vienna or something. You know what I mean? You need to get involved at the University level. Like where I studied and have all these people looking at you and checking up on you. That's the kind of help you need. Not the once a week for eighty bucks. No. You need a team. A team of psychiatrists working round the clock thinking about you, having conferences, observing you, like the way they did with the Elephant Man. That's what I'm talking about because that's the only way you're going to get better.
Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (wVcYX)
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Shitty. Fn autocucumber
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (ynpvh)
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It's no "Tampon in a Teacup".
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (BHrzb)
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Camille Paglia nailed modern art over a decade ago when she called it bankrupt.
And every exhibit since has proven her point.
And every exhibit since has proven her point.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (6iQ9H)
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Oh my Lord, this is horrible!!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (0nHVk)
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Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM
I think Brits would have gotten a chuckle from the use of an actual twig and berries.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM
I think Brits would have gotten a chuckle from the use of an actual twig and berries.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (dPfyF)
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It’s crap like this that has ruined the concept and reputation of art since the Dadaists came along a century ago.
At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)
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Bullsh*t. Derivative.
Posted by: Ongo Gablogian at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (PiwSw)
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It sort of "one up" the banana taped to the wall.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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I'm getting more educated about art, thanks to this weekday thread. I could tell right away this wasn't a Kris post.
Posted by: Art and Farces at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (G5+As)
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Great. Now I need a USB-C charging dongle to light my feces and I'm stuck with all these useless Lightning cords.
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (0Id0S)
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*Backs slowly out of room, turns, runs away screaming*
Posted by: Ty-D-Bol Man at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (wVcYX)
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I had to make sure I wasn't on the First World Problems thread.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (NpAcC)
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That toilet would really anger Alice from The Brady Bunch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (Ry3Y5)
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Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:35
I think she should be ridiculed and her “art” thrown in the dump. And then ignored.
I think she should be ridiculed and her “art” thrown in the dump. And then ignored.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (2OJI2)
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Sarah had to use a porcelain toilet because the museum refused to let her cut a hole in the floor to make it a proper loo.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:39 AM (6iQ9H)
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Modern aht is a money laundering scam.
There's the proof.
There's the proof.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 09:39 AM (Aol+p)
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Sarah should have skipped the brown acid.
Posted by: From about That Tim at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (/hiF1)
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As far as English artists go, I much prefer John Constable to this toilet artist.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (RkTHD)
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This was in the modern art gallery of the Tate Britain
Modern art is for people who do not have talent.
Witness:
A banana duct taped to a white board.
I said what I said.
Modern art is for people who do not have talent.
Witness:
A banana duct taped to a white board.
I said what I said.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (+bLMA)
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Shitter's full again!
Posted by: Cousin Eddie at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (wVcYX)
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Be like your dad, not like your sis
lift the lid before you p***
lift the lid before you p***
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (N39Ws)
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Well, it’s no “Piss Christ,” that’s for sure.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (2OJI2)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (g47mK)
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Needs some Lysol toilet bowl cleaner.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (NpAcC)
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That urinal of Marcel Duchamp would be more appropriate, because at least it would be a French piece for Bastille Day.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (BHrzb)
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Palate cleaner
https://tinyurl.com/yc2w3ufu
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
Thank you !! *clicks on Italian Renaissance
https://tinyurl.com/yc2w3ufu
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)
Thank you !! *clicks on Italian Renaissance
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK)
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Lizzy for Art Thread mod!
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK)
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It sort of "one up" the banana taped to the wall.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM
Anything could have one-upped that garbage. Everybody knows you don't go taping no banana to no wall. That shit should have been stuck in a tailpipe, and the tailpipe mounted on the wall. Sheeeit...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM
Anything could have one-upped that garbage. Everybody knows you don't go taping no banana to no wall. That shit should have been stuck in a tailpipe, and the tailpipe mounted on the wall. Sheeeit...
Posted by: Axel Foley, Art Critic at July 14, 2025 09:43 AM (dPfyF)
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C'mon, guys... it's a shitter called "inferno" and not a single Taco Bell joke yet?
Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (0Id0S)
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Congrats, CBD. You finally found something worse than nekkid lardass on an ottoman.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (77rzZ)
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Literal trash. Call the garbage truck. Next.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (tOcjL)
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Well, at least she didn't desecrate a Ferguson.
Posted by: Al Bundy at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (wVcYX)
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Perhaps Sarah can offer up some equally humourous observations on the "playful transition" of Great Britain into an Islamic state that follows sharia law.
Perhaps Sarah can offer up some equally humourous observations on the "playful transition" of Great Britain into an Islamic state that follows sharia law.
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Video posted to Facebook appears to show a woman plow through anti-ICE protesters Saturday in New Jersey, injuring three, and is now facing charges, according to police. The videos shows a gray SUV slowly approach a crowd of protesters marching against ICE raids when a one protester approaches the driver. The woman behind the wheel, Linda Roglen, then begins to proceed and the protester falls to the ground while others gather around to stop the car. Roglen then rolls up her window and drive through the crowd and leaves the scene. (RELATED: Los Angeles ICE Riots Cost City $20 Million — And Counting) Roglen has been charged with careless driving, reckless driving, leaving the scene of an accident and four counts of assault with a car resulting in bodily injury, according to the New York Post. Several protesters suffered injuries and one was taken to the hospital, News 12 reported. The protest was organized by a group called “United Against Fear,” according to the New York Post. Several witnesses described the scene, with one man saying “I don’t know what they said, but they just say something to each other and he spits in her face.” “I was scared though, honestly, like for those people. Because you never know, man. Something like that, you could die. That’s scary,” the man added. . . It is unclear if the man who allegedly spit on Roglen will face charges.
Let's see. New Jersey? I wouldn't bet on it.
Across the political left, from orthodox Democrats to Antifa in the streets, the opposition to President Donald Trump has lost its collective mind. there is the so-called “left-wing Resistance” and the street mobs’ descent into violence and terrorism. Sometimes, thugs ambush ICE agents. Sometimes, they firebomb Tesla dealerships. Sometimes, they attack federal buildings, shut down freeways and pelt patrol cars with concrete. They continue with impunity because they know the Democrat Party cannot and will not censure them. . . Finally, the left is outraged that so far, the Trump counterrevolution is working. . . . . . Add it all up, and the impotent left in all its orthodox and street manifestations has become unhinged. And why not when it rightly fears that not just its power, but the very sources of its power, are in mortal danger?From my perspective, it's not so much that the polices of the Trump counterrevolution are working, and so far they are firing on all cylinders. It's that their success underscores and puts a gigantic spotlight on the decades of abject failure and disaster of Leftist/progressive/socialist/Democrat policies. To me that is the mortal danger and existential threat to Democrat power and influence going forward. This is the golden moment of opportunity that potentially marks the sea change in the culture going forward that puts America on the path to restoration. And erasing the "long march through the institutions" that got us to the brink of destruction.
This is why we are seeing the ugly naked violence against ICE and the cops as well as the gleeful mockery of Christian children swept away and drowned in torrential flooding in Texas. Rejection is a hell of a thing to deal with, especially among those who view themselves as the absolute moral authority of this nation, and who view those who have rejected them – that is all of us! – as evil and an existential threat not only to them but to democracy, the human race and even the planet itself. The Democrat/Left are playing with fire, but given the fact that the have targeted law enforcement yet need them at the same time, it remains to be seen who in the end is going to get burned.
Two years after BLM rioters picked up $6 million in damages because the police officers trying to stop their rampage didn’t wear face masks, Democrats are trying to ban law enforcement from wearing face masks. California state senators are introducing a bill to make local, state and federal law enforcement personnel, especially ICE, wearing face masks into a crime. In two years, the Left has gone from demanding face masks to trying to outlaw them. . . The real purpose of masks at public events is to conceal the wearer’s identity and to intimidate the public. That is why rioters and Hamas supporters wear them. Especially while committing crimes. ICE personnel wear masks because of a rise in doxxing and attacks against them. The Left is trying to ban masks now to enable the stalking and threats aimed at ICE employees. Masks are another form of power. And the Left seeks to preserve any and all forms of power as its exclusive privilege under the pretext of various forms of victimhood and identity politics. When the Left set out to protect mask wearing by rioters, it claimed that regulations, first imposed to fight the KKK, banning mask wearing in public discriminated against the disabled. Only last year, the pro-crime activists at the Marshall Project claimed that antisemitic rioters should be able to wear masks to protect their privacy against the police and Jewish groups. The pro-crime organization cited the example of the participants in the Boston Tea Party. But while rioters and terrorist supporters deserve the right to be protected from “harassment”, law enforcement officers putting their lives on the line to stop gangs, terrorists and cartels don’t.And as we recognize the anniversary of the French Revolution, it comes also on the on-year anniversary of the attempt on President Trump's life in Butler, PA
It’s been one year since President Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. The gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, missed Trump’s head by an inch—a bullet grazed his ear while he was speaking at a campaign rally. It could have been much worse.And with all of that, there's this:
Though Trump obviously survived, the attack did result in the death of 50-year-old firefighter Corey Comperatore and injured rally attendees. It’s strange that we still know so little about Crooks, his motives and what exactly happened July 13, 2024. Conspiracies swirled in the immediate aftermath about whether Crooks was somehow involved in an “inside job” or perhaps coordinating with enemies abroad. Those all resulted in dead ends. Even now, questions about Crooks still abound: Who was he? Why did he attack Trump? Did he really act alone? What about the Secret Service’s role?
Police in San Antonio arrested a Texas man Thursday night after he allegedly threatened to assassinate President Donald Trump. The alleged threat was made in a Facebook post, where the man reportedly wrote, “I won’t miss.” San Antonio police officers arrested 52-year-old Robert Herrera for threatening to assassinate President Trump via a Facebook post. The threat happened three days before the first anniversary of the attack that nearly took the then-presidential candidate’s life.
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- The videos shows a gray SUV slowly approach a crowd of protesters marching against ICE raids when a one protester approaches the driver. The woman behind the wheel, Linda Roglen, then begins to proceed and the protester falls to the ground while others gather around to stop the car. Roglen then rolls up her window and drive through the crowd and leaves the scene. (RELATED: Los Angeles ICE Riots Cost City $20 Million — And Counting)
Video Appears To Show New Jersey Woman Plow Through Anti-ICE Protesters, Injuring 3, Police Say
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(death-)Squad’s Bro-Fo Omar Claims U.S. Sending Migrants to ‘Dungeons’\9
- America is a country. America is a nation, a nation with borders, a nation with language, a nation with history. We all know that's what an American is.
America is not just a place—America is a people, a country, a nation with borders CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION - But then a letter discovered in Boelter’s abandoned vehicle changed everything. In a rambling, incoherent page-and-a-half screed, Boelter claimed he was acting under supposed orders from Democrat Gov. Tim Walz—and that assassinating Sen. Amy Klobuchar was somehow necessary to clear the path for Walz to run for the U.S. Senate. Almost overnight, the story was memory-holed. The media dropped it like a hot rock.
Why Is the Minnesota Shooter Saying Tim Walz Will Cover Up His Real Motive? - As Democrats drive their lunatic ideology to its logical conclusion, America may be facing a second civil war.
The Civil War wasn't enough: Democrats call for blood
- Victor Davis Hanson: Across the political left, from orthodox Democrats to Antifa in the streets, the opposition to President Donald Trump has lost its collective mind.
Why the left, from normal Dems to Antifa, have lost their collective minds
- Daniel Greenfield: The double standard on masks for rioters, but not law enforcement.
Masks For Them, Not For Us
- CASA of L.A. has fired Charity Chandler-Cole, who denounced child-welfare groups “led by white people.”
A Racialist Leader Is Ousted in Los Angeles
- There can be no denying that the Democrats have been morphing into Nazi-style fascists.
The Rise of the Islamo-Nazi Left in America
- Robert Spencer: Hint - Markey is not interested in the content of your character.
You Can Get a Job in This Senator’s Office, Unless… THE ECONOMY, STUPID - . . .“When you are adding up, all the people gained and all the people who lost the the net increase in jobs is going to Americans. Whereas in, during the Biden administration, you had fewer Americans being employed every month and more foreigners being employed. So the net gain was all going to foreign to foreign workers, to migrants of some sort or another. Now it’s going to Americans.”
Winning: Jobs Gains Going to Native Born Americans, Wage Gains Outpacing Inflation
- Mamdani’s scheme is a concoction of misunderstood economic premises and reckless policy prescriptions. It is an enduring fact of history that state-owned businesses rarely perform as well as politicians promise. And although the insurgent Democrat nominee has identified an obvious problem facing the city, he doesn’t understand its true causes.
Government-Run Grocery Stores Won’t Lower Prices
- The move suggests the America First leader will use the commission’s authority over government buildings—including the Federal Reserve’s headquarters—to fuel a negative media campaign against Powell, who has overseen a lavish renovation of the central bank’s offices that has far exceeded its approved budget. However, should the National Capital Planning Commission uncover evidence of serious malfeasance or ethical lapses on Powell’s part, it could lay the groundwork for President Trump to fire the Federal Reserve chairman outright.
Trump Names Loyalists to Planning Board in Fascinating Anti-Jerome Powell Play. ISRAEL AND USA vs IRAN - Living dangerously inside the Islamic Republic.
On IDF Commandos in Iran (I hope they're still operating and in force - jjs) - Francesca Albanese built her career on a title she never held. Now the curtain should come down. But will it?
Bar None: The UN’s Sanctioned Legal Pretender Exposed WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM - A U.S. federal appeals court has upheld former Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s decision to reject the plea agreements that would have barred 9/11 terror mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) and two co-defendants from being sentenced to capital punishment in exchange for the three pleading guilty to their crimes. The plea deals were initially negotiated between the former Biden government’s military prosecutors and defense attorneys for the three terrorists in August 2024.
Court REJECTS Plea Deal for 9/11 Mastermind, Two Accomplices. - Farage said, “However bad we thought the grooming gang scandal was, it just got worse.” He also stated on X that “South Yorkshire Police have failed yet again in their duty to protect children.”
Farage: The ‘Grooming Gangs’ Scandal Is Getting Even Worse.
- The real reason England is in “a dangerous place.”
Guardian: British Muslims the Real Victims of 7/7
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH - If reporters can't be trusted to understand something as simple as a fever line chart, why trust them about anything complicated?
Who’s Hungry For The Truth About Food Stamps? (Hint: Not Journalists)
- As AI grows more lifelike, we’re not just using machines—we’re bonding with them, choosing frictionless intimacy over the messy, meaningful demands of human connection.
Why AI’s Siren Song Is So Hard To Resist TRUMP ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS AFTERMATH - Police in San Antonio arrested a Texas man Thursday night after he allegedly threatened to assassinate President Donald Trump. The alleged threat was made in a Facebook post, where the man reportedly wrote, “I won’t miss.”
‘I Won’t Miss,’ Texas Man Wrote in Alleged Threat to Assassinate Trump
- Sen. Ron Johnson has issued a subpoena to FBI Director Kash Patel for the agency’s records on the shooter and the shooting.
Key Senator: Trump’s DOJ, FBI Slow-Walking Assassination Attempt Investigations
- Robert Spencer: The corruption is still in place.
Trump Assassination Attempt: Major Failures, Token Punishment
- It doesn’t seem like this information has led to more answers, just more questions.
Why do we still know so little about Trump's would-be assassin one year after the attempt?
- The 1:31-second clip shows footage from Trump’s career, or “mythical story,” building up to July 13, 2024, when he was shot in the ear during a campaign rally in Butler.
Trump Posts Triumphant Video on One-Year Anniversary of Butler Assassination Attempt RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, - There are a lot of questions that need to be answered to establish with certainty that bad actors are engaged in serious, widespread weather modification.
How Concerned Should We Be About Chemtrails? CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY - In a post on Truth Social, Trump questioned what was “going on” with people “going after” Bondi, adding that she has been “doing a FANTASTIC JOB.” Trump continued to question why people were “giving publicity to Files written by” former President Barack Obama, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, among others, and asked why the Democrats didn’t release the Epstein Files.
Trump Backs Bondi Amid Criticism Over Handling of Epstein Files: ‘Let Pam Bondi Do Her Job’
- Bossett’s brother, 69-year-old Darrell Bossett, is serving a life sentence for the cowardly 1980 shooting death of NYPD veteran Gabriel Vitale, 42, who died nine days after being gunned down while investigating a burglary in Queens.
Judge tosses conviction of NYC man jailed since 1980 for hurling grenade at cops — because it wasn’t explosive EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT - Our education system feeds them a fantasy version of socialism that makes all things better, a trend that must stop if America is to survive.
Why So Many Young Americans Fall for Socialism
- Public education promises opportunity but delivers failure, siphoning billions from taxpayers while producing the lowest scores in generations—a swindle hiding in plain sight.
Ending the School Grift ABORTION - Marjorie Dannenfelser laid out the movement’s wins and losses post-Dobbs at the annual Iowa Family Leadership Summit in Des Moines.
‘Two Different Americas’: SBA-Pro Life President Lays Out What’s Next In Fight For Life AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE+Fauci-created CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS - Dr. Michel Kirk Moore, Jr., issued COVID vaccine cards without giving the shot. The Biden junta went after him hard.
Medical freedom victory: DOJ drops case against Utah surgeon SHAMPEACHMENTS, 2016 CLINTON/OBAMA COUP, CONGRESSIONAL PERSECUTION, SPYGATE, DEEP STATE, MUELLER DECEPTION - John Brennan spent years lying to Congress, the press, and the public—yet now claims he's "clueless" about a DOJ investigation. He’s only clueless about how not to lie.
Will John Brennan Ever Tell the Truth? DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY - Roger Kimball: The only real mystery left in the Epstein saga is why so many refuse to believe there's no mystery left.
No List, No Revelations, No Plot—Just Epstein
- . . . under fire after calling President Donald Trump “a rapist” in a Friday post on X, prompting widespread accusations of defamation and calls for a lawsuit.
Titty-Caca Ocasio-Cortez Faces Backlash Over ‘Defamatory’ Trump-Epstein Post: ‘Sue AOC Into Bankruptcy’
- After five days of escalating hysteria and chest-beating, including ultimatums to the president to “fire Blondi,” MAGA “influencers” have found themselves on the same side as Raskin, which, needless to say, is the wrong side.
Miranda Devine: Epstein drama is an unnecessary distraction for Trump admin – and plays into the hands of malign Dems
- ‘Any reasonably objective person would conclude this looks horrible,’ said ethics watchdog Kendra Arnold
Corporate Donors Gave Big to a Newsom Family Charity. Then the California Governor Took Their Side on State Issues. (Newsom is a greasy sleazy criminal?! I'm shocked - jjs) POLITICS - Democrats and their hardline leftist constituencies are disempowered, angry, and growing ever more frustrated. Now is no time for conservatives to split into rival camps.
A Strange, Unsettling Time
- Zohran Mamdani didn’t win despite being a socialist—he won because he spoke to working-class pain; if Republicans don’t, the future belongs to the left.
Republicans Must Not Cede the Urban Working Class to Socialists Like Zohran Mamdani
- Daniel Greenfield: A foreign influence op.
The Real Head of ‘Jews for Zohran’ is a Sri Lankan Marxist’s Pro-Hamas Movement
- "We have a lot more work ahead of us."
Speaker Johnson Maps Out Republican ‘Playbook’ After ‘Big, Beautiful’ Victory
- Graham is a four-term senator who recently received President Donald Trump’s endorsement for reelection. However, Bauer has pitched himself as a “real, America First conservative” who aims to capture anti-establishment fervor to remove Graham, the current Senate Budget Committee chairman.
Exclusive: Former South Carolina Lt. Gov. André Bauer Running to Primary ‘Liberal Viper’ Lindsey Graham THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT" - As the prospect of a broader NATO-Russia war grows, remember what we’ve already lost.
War Takes Everything
FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL - We in the United States have focused so much on American vote fraud in recent years -- and sure, there’s plenty to focus on -- that it’s been easy to forget that vote fraud is actually a global problem.
Trump Challenges Brazil
- . . . the rumored coup brings attention to one of the most important questions facing this nation: Is the source of America’s problem with China a deep-seated one that transcends individual personalities, or is it all the fault of this one man?
Waiting for China’s Gorbachev? Don’t Hold Your Breath. - Albanese met with Shanghai Party Secretary Chen Jining on Sunday, the first in a series of high-level exchanges that will include meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Premier Li Qiang and Chairman Zhao Leji of the National People’s Congress.
Leftist Australian PM Albanese Visits China on Trade Mission - According to the report, the fuel cutoff switches for both engines shifted from ‘RUN’ to ‘CUTOFF’—one after the other, within a second. This effectively cut off fuel to both of the plane’s engines.
Preliminary Report Into Last Month’s Air India Crash Provides New Information
- Lord Mandelson, a prominent UK ambassador to the US and known Europhile, has acknowledged the role of Brexit in facilitating a new trade deal with the United States. In an interview with The Sunday Times, he admitted, “we couldn’t have done this deal if we had remained part of the European Union.”
Britain’s Ambassador, an Ardent Europhile, Admits The New US-UK Trade Deal Couldn’t Have Happened Without Brexit.
- Jeziorski, a professor at Berkeley’s Haas School of Business for 8 years, was in Greece to attend a child custody hearing for his two children, ABC 7 reported.
UC Berkeley professor killed by masked gunman in Greece: ‘We are heartbroken’ HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE - Vertical integration—bringing together insurers, care providers, hospitals, pharmacies, and clinics—offers a new model that improves coordination, drives better outcomes, and lowers the cost and burden patients face.
Vertical integration in healthcare means better care for patients
- The Make America Healthy Again movement is not paying sufficient attention to the problem of serious mental illness.
MAHA’s Mental Illness Blind Spot ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY - Nobody was reported injured in the incident, and the rocket was not carrying any payload. The first launch of a foreign-made rocket from Hokkaido served to test its engine’s capabilities, the report said.
First suborbital launch of Taiwan rocket startup fails
- As I have noted previously, a real market for pharmaceuticals produced in weightlessness has existed for decades. It appears Varda is now well placed to be the first to make money doing so, using its returnable capsules.
Varda raises another $187 million in private investment capital
- The OBBBA gives nearly $10 billion dollars towards the Boeing Space Launch System (SLS) and related projects, according to the bill’s text. The SLS had its first launch delayed from 2016 to 2022, putting subsequent launches years behind schedule while running at least $6 billion over budget, according to a National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Inspector General report from 2023.
How Trump’s Megabill Could Stall American Space Exploration
FEMINAZISM, TRANSGENDER PSYCHOSIS, HOMOSEXUALIZATION, WAR ON MASCULINITY/NORMALCY - It seems that the leftists have successfully effected a “de-conquista” in Spain.
Spain is on the way to outlawing pastoral counseling against homosexuality
- Trump's Title IX crackdown puts schools on notice: no more men in women’s sports—or risk losing federal funds, as UPenn learned with its $175 million wake-up call.
Title IX and Trans Athletes: Victories and Stand Offs as Trump Perseveres—Bravo!
CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE - Why so many people are captured by unlikely hearsay and anonymously sourced tales of high-level criminal conspiracies rather than meaningful political issues.
Beware ‘Ragebait Engagement Farming’
- Man of Steel reboot wins the weekend, but one key comparison can't be ignored
‘Superman’s’ Good (and Scary) Box Office Numbers, Revealed
- "She is a Threat to Humanity, and should remain in the wonderful Country of Ireland, if they want her." . . . Trump questioned Irish Prime Minister Micheál Martin about her during an Oval Office meeting months later, asking, “Why in the world would you let Rosie O’Donnell move to Ireland? I think she’s going to lower your happiness levels.”
Trump Says He’s Giving ‘Serious’ Thought To Stripping Rosie O’Donnell’s Citizenship
- The posts, which have now since been deleted, featured the children’s icon, who is usually known to push positive and apolitical content, saying nasty words about Jews while pushing Qanon conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein.
Elmo Goes Full Nazi in Hacked Social Media Posts: ‘Kill All Jews’
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Happy Monday
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:34 AM (gbOdA)
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Good morning horde!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 07:35 AM (ExV1e)
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Morning
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 14, 2025 07:35 AM (A0ECY)
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I wonder what Bongino will pull today. If he resigns he's going on my squit list.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:35 AM (vFG9F)
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Bon jour all you morons
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:35 AM (SZhoT)
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Happy Monday, one and all!
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 07:36 AM (lXoJ5)
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Good morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
A reprise from the Tech Thread.
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
A reprise from the Tech Thread.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:37 AM (u82oZ)
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It's funny that a few years ago I could have walked into a bank wearing a mask and face shield and no one would have cared. They would in fact insist upon it.
Well, not funny funny, but stupid funny.
Well, not funny funny, but stupid funny.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:39 AM (vFG9F)
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In the now current fiscal year, New York passed a $237 billion state budget, while Florida passed a budget less than half the size at $116.5 billion -- even though Florida now has millions more residents than New York
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Hey NY (and NJ)! It doesn't have to be this way!
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Hey NY (and NJ)! It doesn't have to be this way!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:40 AM (gM/Vv)
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I wonder what Bongino will pull today. If he resigns he's going on my squit list.
TBH, I love Bongino's replacement in Rush's timeslot. Vince is absolutely outstanding in his role.
Bongino has trashed his personal reputation so bad, people won't be able to withhold laughter anytime he starts talking about what Feds should do.
He should take his lovely wife and his multi-millions and enjoy what days the good LORD gave him.
TBH, I love Bongino's replacement in Rush's timeslot. Vince is absolutely outstanding in his role.
Bongino has trashed his personal reputation so bad, people won't be able to withhold laughter anytime he starts talking about what Feds should do.
He should take his lovely wife and his multi-millions and enjoy what days the good LORD gave him.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:40 AM (a4flb)
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Florida, which now spends $9,130 per student, consistently scores above the national average on 4th and 8th grade reading and math. New York, which spends $29,893 per student, ranks around 46th in 8th grade reading and below average in most other categories.
Money ≠ Education
Money ≠ Education
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:40 AM (gbOdA)
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Legalization And/Or Amnesty: Can It Ever Be Done Right?
Reagan tried it and it was a massive failure. How many times are we supposed to try it until they are satisfied?
Reagan tried it and it was a massive failure. How many times are we supposed to try it until they are satisfied?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 07:41 AM (lXoJ5)
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8 It's funny that a few years ago I could have walked into a bank wearing a mask and face shield and no one would have cared. They would in fact insist upon it.
Well, not funny funny, but stupid funny.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:39 AM (vFG9F)
Not as funny as the Gun-Free Zone stickers I see on the door of my bank. Yeah, that'll prevent a bank robbery!
Well, not funny funny, but stupid funny.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:39 AM (vFG9F)
Not as funny as the Gun-Free Zone stickers I see on the door of my bank. Yeah, that'll prevent a bank robbery!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 14, 2025 07:41 AM (x0n13)
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Apparently, the Senate is set to undo all of the proposed spending cuts for NASA as well as increasing their budget.
As Ceasar Santos opined, Congress is a joke.
Speaking of Santos, why hasn't he been pardoned yet?
As Ceasar Santos opined, Congress is a joke.
Speaking of Santos, why hasn't he been pardoned yet?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 07:41 AM (XV/Pl)
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Democrats are continuing their assault on Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) by faking outrage over a raid where officers saved illegal alien children from an alleged child labor operation on a marijuana farm in Southern California.
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Democrats are still pro-slavery
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Democrats are still pro-slavery
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (gM/Vv)
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"Bongino has trashed his personal reputation so bad, people won't be able to withhold laughter anytime he starts talking about what Feds should do."
He could team up with Errorick Errorickson and they can blow each other on the air.
He could team up with Errorick Errorickson and they can blow each other on the air.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 07:43 AM (HZi96)
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CBS has supposedly done some investigative report on Crooks that was just released and there is a documentary called " Who Shot Trump" by a fellow named Wilcox.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:43 AM (HFcKg)
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We used to have serious and cautionary discussions in politics and society about moral hazards. I haven't heard the term even used in a long time. The democrats ignore or embrace these hazards now. Whatever it takes. Total will to power.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 07:43 AM (WHfpM)
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Gavin Newsom unveiled $101 million in funding Tuesday for “multifamily low-income housing development” that will “contribute to a more equitable and resilient Los Angeles.”
I will take the UNDER on Less Than 200 units will be built.
I will also take the OVER on no one will be living there in 2027.
I will take the UNDER on Less Than 200 units will be built.
I will also take the OVER on no one will be living there in 2027.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:44 AM (gbOdA)
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Roglen has been charged with careless driving, reckless driving, leaving the scene of an accident
I like the crime of "leaving the scene of an accident".
I think that was the point, to flee for her life from the ironically named terror group: "United Against Fear"
And it was NOT an accident. They approached the car to assault her and maybe worse.
I like the crime of "leaving the scene of an accident".
I think that was the point, to flee for her life from the ironically named terror group: "United Against Fear"
And it was NOT an accident. They approached the car to assault her and maybe worse.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:44 AM (a4flb)
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Gavin Newsom unveiled $101 million in funding Tuesday for “multifamily low-income housing development” that will “contribute to a more equitable and resilient Los Angeles.”
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It's the High-Speed Rail of housing!
Gavin Newsom unveiled $101 million in funding Tuesday for “multifamily low-income housing development” that will “contribute to a more equitable and resilient Los Angeles.”
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It's the High-Speed Rail of housing!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 07:45 AM (HZi96)
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"CBS has supposedly done some investigative report on Crooks that was just released and there is a documentary called " Who Shot Trump" by a fellow named Wilcox.
Posted by: Ben Had"
I bet they still use the kid's 7th grade photo and expose the shocking news that he was bullied which led to his random act of violence.
Posted by: Ben Had"
I bet they still use the kid's 7th grade photo and expose the shocking news that he was bullied which led to his random act of violence.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:45 AM (vFG9F)
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Democrats are still pro-slavery
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (gM/Vv)
Atlanta 1858 Slaves are necessary to support our economy.
Los Angeles 2025 Slaves are necessary to support our economy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (gM/Vv)
Atlanta 1858 Slaves are necessary to support our economy.
Los Angeles 2025 Slaves are necessary to support our economy.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:45 AM (gbOdA)
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Poit!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:47 AM (0eaVi)
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Dems don’t want ICE and police wearing masks… this ticks me off as I well remember being constantly harassed in public whenever I appeared maskless (2020-21)… I was gonna kill everyone with my polluted breath doncha see. Enraging
Bongino always struck me as a blowhard. IIRC he was involved with the Parler fiasco. Remember Parler? He’s made a lot of money; he’s good at that apparently. Good for him but I’m tired of hearing his “take”
Bongino always struck me as a blowhard. IIRC he was involved with the Parler fiasco. Remember Parler? He’s made a lot of money; he’s good at that apparently. Good for him but I’m tired of hearing his “take”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 07:49 AM (WdMlw)
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CBS has supposedly done some investigative report on Crooks
CBS?
I know the current mission statement of the FBI is to destroy evidence, serve the wealthy perverts and terrorize good people, but CBS is all about gaslighting and smears.
CBS doesn't currently have the staff nor skills to perform honest investigatory work. They can slut up a terrorist like they did Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and the murderer Luigi Mangione to make pin-ups out of them.
There are going to be AWFLs who want to date Crook's corpse. (except the FBI promptly cremated that too)
CBS?
I know the current mission statement of the FBI is to destroy evidence, serve the wealthy perverts and terrorize good people, but CBS is all about gaslighting and smears.
CBS doesn't currently have the staff nor skills to perform honest investigatory work. They can slut up a terrorist like they did Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and the murderer Luigi Mangione to make pin-ups out of them.
There are going to be AWFLs who want to date Crook's corpse. (except the FBI promptly cremated that too)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:50 AM (a4flb)
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JustTheNews:
John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 07:50 AM (xQYJA)
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JustTheNews:
John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 07:50 AM (xQYJA)
Just in:
John Solomon found dead at home.
John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 07:50 AM (xQYJA)
Just in:
John Solomon found dead at home.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:51 AM (0eaVi)
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In more humorous government protest news, Ukrainian men are now sending the locations of Ukrainian military "recruitment centers" to the Russian military and asking them to target them with drones and missiles.
With forced conscription snatching teenagers and old men alike off the street to serve as cannon fodder, it seems the citizens of Ukraine have turned to Russia for assistance in saving their lives, and Moscow has answered their cries for help.
https://tinyurl.com/d9z29nfj
This should be a grim warning to all leaders in the west. If you engage in a systematic genocide of your own people, they will eventually find your enemy to be a more favorable master.
With forced conscription snatching teenagers and old men alike off the street to serve as cannon fodder, it seems the citizens of Ukraine have turned to Russia for assistance in saving their lives, and Moscow has answered their cries for help.
https://tinyurl.com/d9z29nfj
This should be a grim warning to all leaders in the west. If you engage in a systematic genocide of your own people, they will eventually find your enemy to be a more favorable master.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 07:51 AM (6BNWj)
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You think I defend the child labor farm because I am pro-slavery? Nah, bruh! I defend it because I got paid by the owner, and I thought the kids were just there for sex! I never thought they were working!
Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 14, 2025 07:52 AM (AYA0R)
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Yonder Horde
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 07:52 AM (Q4IgG)
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Gavin Newsom unveiled $101 million in funding Tuesday for “multifamily low-income housing development” that will “contribute to a more equitable and resilient Los Angeles.”
So California is going to let the Pacific Palisades go "native" for various definition of the word "native".
So California is going to let the Pacific Palisades go "native" for various definition of the word "native".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:52 AM (a4flb)
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The Decline and Fall of Our So-Called Degreed Experts
Modern western expertise, this isn't just an American problem, is nothing more than ideological bullshit with some letters after the author's name.
With the, possible, exception of the hard sciences, any study which searches for objective truth and expanding knowledge which might run afoul of political diktats will fail to be rewarded with the extra letters. And then you will have spent year, and a ton of money, for nothing. So you regurgitate the same spew as everyone else to get your gold star and call yourself 'expert'.
Modern western expertise, this isn't just an American problem, is nothing more than ideological bullshit with some letters after the author's name.
With the, possible, exception of the hard sciences, any study which searches for objective truth and expanding knowledge which might run afoul of political diktats will fail to be rewarded with the extra letters. And then you will have spent year, and a ton of money, for nothing. So you regurgitate the same spew as everyone else to get your gold star and call yourself 'expert'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 07:53 AM (ExV1e)
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You think I defend the child labor farm because I am pro-slavery? Nah, bruh! I defend it because I got paid by the owner, and I thought the kids were just there for sex! I never thought they were working!
Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 14, 2025 07:52 AM (AYA0R)
Seems plausible. He's never misled us before.
Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 14, 2025 07:52 AM (AYA0R)
Seems plausible. He's never misled us before.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:53 AM (0eaVi)
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It appears the autopen scandal is resurfacing.
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@amuse
PARDON? Biden staffers admit the former president was never aware of the full list of individuals they pardoned with the autopen. Thousands of criminals pardoned were never approved by the president, but instead by officials at the bureau of prisons and his staffers. This according to the New York Times.
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NYT?? Seriously?
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@amuse
@amuse
PARDON? Biden staffers admit the former president was never aware of the full list of individuals they pardoned with the autopen. Thousands of criminals pardoned were never approved by the president, but instead by officials at the bureau of prisons and his staffers. This according to the New York Times.
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NYT?? Seriously?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 07:53 AM (Q4IgG)
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Rep. Salud Carbajal (D-CA) took the ID card from an ICE agent and gave it to rioters to doxx the agent.
https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/
1944506356133962089
https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/
1944506356133962089
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:53 AM (gbOdA)
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This should be a grim warning to all leaders in the west. If you engage in a systematic genocide of your own people, they will eventually find your enemy to be a more favorable master.
This too is the story of the Mob in Chicago and NYC.
This too is the story of the Mob in Chicago and NYC.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:53 AM (a4flb)
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John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
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Uh-huh. We will see.
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Uh-huh. We will see.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:54 AM (AYA0R)
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Gavin Newsom unveiled $101 million in funding Tuesday for “multifamily low-income housing development” that will “contribute to a more equitable and resilient Los Angeles.”
You know who won't be living in the multifamily low income housing development?
You know who won't be living in the multifamily low income housing development?
Posted by: Gavin Newsome, Liberal Fag Do Gooder at July 14, 2025 07:54 AM (rfMRc)
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John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
Quick! Find Geraldo so he can open the safe live and show us this case along with the Epstein "files".
John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
Quick! Find Geraldo so he can open the safe live and show us this case along with the Epstein "files".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:55 AM (a4flb)
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"John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
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Uh-huh. We will see.
Posted by: Huck Follywood"
I thought I just saw a head roll by, but it was a squirrel.
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Uh-huh. We will see.
Posted by: Huck Follywood"
I thought I just saw a head roll by, but it was a squirrel.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:55 AM (vFG9F)
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Explain to me like I was a five year old, if Epstein had no clients why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 07:55 AM (/exTw)
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Further into the Air India report, a yout*be analyst indicated that seconds after lift off, the voice recorder captured one person (pilot or first officer) ask "Why did you turn off the fuel?" or similar comment.
The data also suggest at least one engine restarted and could have reached adequate thrust to continue flying if the incident had occurred at a higher altitude (ie more time to spool up).
They are also trying to tie the fuel cutoff to an unrelated service bulletin for 2018 about possibly faulty switches on a 737. It's gotta be Boeing's fault, they have the money to pay.
The data also suggest at least one engine restarted and could have reached adequate thrust to continue flying if the incident had occurred at a higher altitude (ie more time to spool up).
They are also trying to tie the fuel cutoff to an unrelated service bulletin for 2018 about possibly faulty switches on a 737. It's gotta be Boeing's fault, they have the money to pay.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 14, 2025 07:55 AM (A0ECY)
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This should be a grim warning to all leaders in the west. If you engage in a systematic genocide of your own people, they will eventually find your enemy to be a more favorable master.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 07:51 AM (6BNWj)
Any third party confirmation of this? It could be Russian propaganda. Though, it wouldn't surprise me if true.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 07:51 AM (6BNWj)
Any third party confirmation of this? It could be Russian propaganda. Though, it wouldn't surprise me if true.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:55 AM (0eaVi)
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I saw about 2 minutes of that CBS “deep dive” into Thomas Crooks. Yes… they used his 7th grade photo
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 07:56 AM (i5Vkf)
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The posts, which have now since been deleted, featured the children’s icon, who is usually known to push positive and apolitical content, saying nasty words about Jews while pushing Qanon conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein.
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Tucker Carlson hacked Elmo ??
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Tucker Carlson hacked Elmo ??
Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 07:57 AM (g47mK)
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34 Gavin Newsom unveiled $101 million in funding Tuesday for “multifamily low-income housing development” that will “contribute to a more equitable and resilient Los Angeles.”
Entirely predictable. Pacific Palisades is gone forever, erased, as surely as any sign of individuality in East Berlin. Easy to believe the fire was deliberate, though easier to believe it was just total incompetence. Anyway, they got what they wanted. They usually do.
Entirely predictable. Pacific Palisades is gone forever, erased, as surely as any sign of individuality in East Berlin. Easy to believe the fire was deliberate, though easier to believe it was just total incompetence. Anyway, they got what they wanted. They usually do.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 07:57 AM (WHfpM)
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The argument that “someone has to pick your lettuce” is dead; there is no “cheap labor” only corporate subsidies at our taxpayer expense. It might even end up being cheaper for businesses holistically when they are forced to pay actual market wages rather than depending on roundabout benefits.
🔸 54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households.
🔸 Non-citizen households (e.g., green card holders and illegal immigrants) show the highest usage at 59%.
🔸 Compared to U.S.-born households, immigrant households show elevated usage in:
– Food assistance programs: 36% vs. 25%
– Medicaid: 37% vs. 25%
– Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC): 16% vs. 12%
🔸 54% of immigrant-headed households use at least one major welfare program, compared to 39% of U.S.-born households.
🔸 Non-citizen households (e.g., green card holders and illegal immigrants) show the highest usage at 59%.
🔸 Compared to U.S.-born households, immigrant households show elevated usage in:
– Food assistance programs: 36% vs. 25%
– Medicaid: 37% vs. 25%
– Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC): 16% vs. 12%
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 07:58 AM (xQYJA)
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“Turns out he had been sentenced to 7 yrs for kidnapping & attempted rape, w/ a prior conviction for attempted child molestation.
And this felon was working at the same farm as 10 kids – one being 14 yrs old.”
Cal Laws:
1. All weed workers must be licensed and have valid Cal ID.
2. All weed workers must be over 21.
And this felon was working at the same farm as 10 kids – one being 14 yrs old.”
Cal Laws:
1. All weed workers must be licensed and have valid Cal ID.
2. All weed workers must be over 21.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:58 AM (gbOdA)
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Rep. Salud Carbajal (D-CA) took the ID card from an ICE agent and gave it to rioters to doxx the agent.
A number of years ago when Denver held the DNCriots convention, the police department had printed T-shirts with a large grinning cop wielding a baton surrounded by the words:
"We get up early to beat the crowds"
We need to find the leadership and staff that inspired that motivator for the troops and let them organize a spirited welcome party at the doxxed ICE agent's home.
A number of years ago when Denver held the DNC
"We get up early to beat the crowds"
We need to find the leadership and staff that inspired that motivator for the troops and let them organize a spirited welcome party at the doxxed ICE agent's home.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:58 AM (a4flb)
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During the final days of Trump's first term he assigned two people to work together and try to get Russia collusion documents declassified and released, Kash Patel and John Solomon. Solomon's claims carry a bit more weight with me than most reporters.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 07:58 AM (viF8m)
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John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state
Two weeks!
Two weeks!
Posted by: Eskimo at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (h39WR)
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Haven't read the article, but are we talking a "Texas man" like a "Maryland man"?
Posted by: RandomDave at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (aJQbY)
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However, should the National Capital Planning Commission uncover evidence of serious malfeasance or ethical lapses on Powell’s part, it could lay the groundwork for President Trump to fire the Federal Reserve chairman outright.
His term ends next year. Seems unlikely that he'll be fired before then.
His term ends next year. Seems unlikely that he'll be fired before then.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (ExV1e)
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" I saw about 2 minutes of that CBS “deep dive” into Thomas Crooks. Yes… they used his 7th grade photo
Posted by: LinusVanPelt"
Let me guess. The rejection from the Chess Club set his path to lash out at the most visible person in the area at the time.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt"
Let me guess. The rejection from the Chess Club set his path to lash out at the most visible person in the area at the time.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (vFG9F)
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@44
>>Explain to me like I was a five year old, if Epstein had no clients why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison?
Sex trafficking of minors, transportation of minors to for the purposes to engage in criminal activity and conspiracy to do the same.
The trial judge limited the scope to her and Epstein's actions.
>>Explain to me like I was a five year old, if Epstein had no clients why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison?
Sex trafficking of minors, transportation of minors to for the purposes to engage in criminal activity and conspiracy to do the same.
The trial judge limited the scope to her and Epstein's actions.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (XV/Pl)
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Explain to me like I was a five year old, if Epstein had no clients why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison?
The claim you will likely receive is that she trafficked them only to Epstein himself.
So if that narrative is correct, apparently it was just Prince Andrew and Epstein that engaged in these activities.
Well, and Alan Dershowitz, who has ruthlessly targeted by the young girls, when all he wanted was for someone to scratch that one place on his back he couldn't reach.
The claim you will likely receive is that she trafficked them only to Epstein himself.
So if that narrative is correct, apparently it was just Prince Andrew and Epstein that engaged in these activities.
Well, and Alan Dershowitz, who has ruthlessly targeted by the young girls, when all he wanted was for someone to scratch that one place on his back he couldn't reach.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 08:00 AM (6BNWj)
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A fine, gigantic, collection of links, as usual. JJS is a national treasure.
Posted by: Weakly Reader at July 14, 2025 08:00 AM (G5+As)
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Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.
Good morning, Horde.
Posted by: Inogame at July 14, 2025 08:00 AM (53oGX)
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Roglen has been charged with careless driving, reckless driving, leaving the scene of an accident and four counts of assault with a car resulting in bodily injury,
Presidential l Pardon
Presidential l Pardon
Posted by: barkie at July 14, 2025 08:02 AM (5yGIt)
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"Sex trafficking of minors, transportation of minors to for the purposes to engage in criminal activity and conspiracy to do the same."
To whom?
To whom?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 08:02 AM (/exTw)
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Trash pickup resumes in Philadelphia today after union strike
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:02 AM (xQYJA)
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Titty-Caca Ocasio-Cortez Faces Backlash Over ‘Defamatory’ Trump-Epstein Post: ‘Sue AOC Into Bankruptcy’
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I truly, sincerely hope Trump sues her into oblivion. She has become a millionaire with her ill-gotten insider trading via her elected position. Yes, I know she's not the only one, but that's for another discussion. Sue this big-mouthed donkey (literal and figurative) until she hasn't a penny left. I would sooo love to see it.
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I truly, sincerely hope Trump sues her into oblivion. She has become a millionaire with her ill-gotten insider trading via her elected position. Yes, I know she's not the only one, but that's for another discussion. Sue this big-mouthed donkey (literal and figurative) until she hasn't a penny left. I would sooo love to see it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 08:03 AM (qBdHI)
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" I saw about 2 minutes of that CBS “deep dive” into Thomas Crooks. Yes… they used his 7th grade photo
Posted by: LinusVanPelt"
Let me guess. The rejection from the Chess Club set his path to lash out at the most visible person in the area at the time.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (vFG9F)
I didn’t watch the whole thing… only 2 minutes. But in that short time they showed the photo and said he was “extremely intelligent” and had “mental health issues” in his last year and yes it was still a complete mystery why he did it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt"
Let me guess. The rejection from the Chess Club set his path to lash out at the most visible person in the area at the time.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:59 AM (vFG9F)
I didn’t watch the whole thing… only 2 minutes. But in that short time they showed the photo and said he was “extremely intelligent” and had “mental health issues” in his last year and yes it was still a complete mystery why he did it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 08:04 AM (ANuwa)
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@62
>>To whom?
The trial was orchestrated to limit the exposure of anyone else except Epstein, there were allusions to "Others," but no one else was allowed to be named at the trial.
It was essentially a setup.
>>To whom?
The trial was orchestrated to limit the exposure of anyone else except Epstein, there were allusions to "Others," but no one else was allowed to be named at the trial.
It was essentially a setup.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:05 AM (XV/Pl)
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The only real mystery left in the Epstein saga is why so many refuse to believe there's no mystery left.
Because so many people claim to know that there's mystery left.
I've seen the list - but I won't tell you who's on it.
I was raped multiple times per day - but I won't tell you by whom.
I know x, y, or z - but I won't tell you any of it.
Because so many people claim to know that there's mystery left.
I've seen the list - but I won't tell you who's on it.
I was raped multiple times per day - but I won't tell you by whom.
I know x, y, or z - but I won't tell you any of it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:06 AM (ExV1e)
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The OBBBA gives nearly $10 billion dollars towards the Boeing Space Launch System (SLS) and related projects, according to the bill’s text. The SLS had its first launch delayed from 2016 to 2022, putting subsequent launches years behind schedule while running at least $6 billion over budget, according to a National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Inspector General report from 2023.
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Boeing lobbyists score big victory, stealing public money for a failure program that even Boeing would prefer to cancel.
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Boeing lobbyists score big victory, stealing public money for a failure program that even Boeing would prefer to cancel.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 08:07 AM (eWH9R)
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I truly, sincerely hope Trump sues her into oblivion. She has become a millionaire with her ill-gotten insider trading via her elected position. Yes, I know she's not the only one, but that's for another discussion. Sue this big-mouthed donkey (literal and figurative) until she hasn't a penny left. I would sooo love to see it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 08:03 AM (qBdHI)
Steffi cost ABC millions saying the same thing she did. Seems like a slam dunk case for Trump. He should do it. Shut her horse mouth up.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 08:03 AM (qBdHI)
Steffi cost ABC millions saying the same thing she did. Seems like a slam dunk case for Trump. He should do it. Shut her horse mouth up.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 08:08 AM (0eaVi)
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Trash pickup resumes in Philadelphia today after union strike
Millions of giant rats hit the hardest!
Millions of giant rats hit the hardest!
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:10 AM (a4flb)
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Watched the video of Roglen going through the protesters. Not surprising that the media is clinging to the lie about it being a peaceful protest. Please don't believe the evidence your own eyes can see.
This is one of those times I am glad I cut off ties with a cousin because he's very pro rioter and he would have justified the violence towards her.
This is one of those times I am glad I cut off ties with a cousin because he's very pro rioter and he would have justified the violence towards her.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 08:11 AM (lXoJ5)
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The trial was orchestrated to limit the exposure of anyone else except Epstein, there were allusions to "Others," but no one else was allowed to be named at the trial.
Whoever signed off that condition needs a deep dive into their personal and banking history.
Whoever signed off that condition needs a deep dive into their personal and banking history.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)
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BREAKING: BIDEN AUTOPEN SCANDAL: NY Times Confirms Biden Did Not Sign Off on All Pardons – WH Chief of Staff Zeints Approved Fauci’s Pardon
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (xQYJA)
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Any third party confirmation of this?
Sort of like asking for independent, disinterested third party confirmation of the existence of God.
Anyone that wishes it to be Russian propaganda, would find any source to the information to be "unreliable".
Anyone that thinks it to be true, would find the same sources to be reliable.
Anyone independent and disinterested wouldn't be monitoring the situation closely for independent verification, and were such people to exist and give an account, they would be quickly accused of belonging to the first or second camp.
There are no disinterested third parties in the truth.
Sort of like asking for independent, disinterested third party confirmation of the existence of God.
Anyone that wishes it to be Russian propaganda, would find any source to the information to be "unreliable".
Anyone that thinks it to be true, would find the same sources to be reliable.
Anyone independent and disinterested wouldn't be monitoring the situation closely for independent verification, and were such people to exist and give an account, they would be quickly accused of belonging to the first or second camp.
There are no disinterested third parties in the truth.
Posted by: Won't Be Long Now at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (6BNWj)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 14, 2025 08:14 AM (Dv3i1)
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Morning all
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:15 AM (+bLMA)
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BREAKING: BIDEN AUTOPEN SCANDAL: NY Times Confirms Biden Did Not Sign Off on All Pardons – WH Chief of Staff Zeints Approved Fauci’s Pardon
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (xQYJA)
Maybe. But they won't be reversed.
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (xQYJA)
Maybe. But they won't be reversed.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 08:15 AM (0eaVi)
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On Wednesday, Markey wrote on X: “I’m hiring self-motivated and eager interns for fall 2025 in my Boston office. BIPOC, LGBTQ+, working class, and other underrepresented candidates with Massachusetts ties are encouraged to apply. Applications due Friday, August 8th.”
Sounds like he wants bang some dark skinned youngsters.
Sounds like he wants bang some dark skinned youngsters.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:15 AM (gbOdA)
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BREAKING: BIDEN AUTOPEN SCANDAL: NY Times Confirms Biden Did Not Sign Off on All Pardons – WH Chief of Staff Zeints Approved Fauci’s Pardon
Posted by: SMOD
Burn it to the ground.
Posted by: SMOD
Burn it to the ground.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:16 AM (+bLMA)
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Elmo Goes Full Nazi in Hacked Social Media Posts: ‘Kill All Jews’
We sure it was a hack? Elmo's posts were pretty consistent with what the Free Palestine (with purchase of equal or lesser value) crowd would say, and PBS's funding just got cut so they're probably angry.
We sure it was a hack? Elmo's posts were pretty consistent with what the Free Palestine (with purchase of equal or lesser value) crowd would say, and PBS's funding just got cut so they're probably angry.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 08:16 AM (noPDf)
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Sounds like he wants bang some dark skinned youngsters.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:15 AM (gbOdA)
I thought Trump deported all of them.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:15 AM (gbOdA)
I thought Trump deported all of them.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 08:16 AM (0eaVi)
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Six time Wimbledon champion Steffi Graf and her husband Andre Agassi were in the audience yesterday for the mens final. She still looks pretty great, and Agassi still looks pretty bald!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (ky+Va)
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How much agriculture actually has to be picked by people nowadays? As in, there are machines that can do it that farms just don't want to invest in because illegals are cheaper?
How much agriculture actually has to be picked by people nowadays? As in, there are machines that can do it that farms just don't want to invest in because illegals are cheaper?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (HZi96)
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It's National Mac & Cheese Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
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Elmo Goes Full Nazi in Hacked Social Media Posts: ‘Kill All Jews’
We sure it was a hack? Elmo's posts were pretty consistent with what the Free Palestine (with purchase of equal or lesser value) crowd would say, and PBS's funding just got cut so they're probably angry.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 08:16 AM (noPDf)
I wouldn't be surprised if the guy with his hand up Elmo's ass posted it himself.
We sure it was a hack? Elmo's posts were pretty consistent with what the Free Palestine (with purchase of equal or lesser value) crowd would say, and PBS's funding just got cut so they're probably angry.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 08:16 AM (noPDf)
I wouldn't be surprised if the guy with his hand up Elmo's ass posted it himself.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (0eaVi)
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No headlines to the contrary, so I’m guessing Bongimminee clocked in this morning. Hysterical inter webs hardest hit.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 14, 2025 08:18 AM (FUvyF)
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BREAKING: BIDEN AUTOPEN SCANDAL: NY Times Confirms Biden Did Not Sign Off on All Pardons – WH Chief of Staff Zeints Approved Fauci’s Pardon
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (xQYJA)
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Also NYT: Of course those pardons are legitimate, you peons!
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 08:12 AM (xQYJA)
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Also NYT: Of course those pardons are legitimate, you peons!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 08:18 AM (ky+Va)
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Sounds like he wants bang some dark skinned youngsters.
The real reason AWFLs support unlimited immigration: bringing in men who haven't been warned about them in advance.
The real reason AWFLs support unlimited immigration: bringing in men who haven't been warned about them in advance.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 08:18 AM (noPDf)
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There are no disinterested third parties in the truth.
My interest is in the confiscation of my tax dollars, putting weapons I paid for but would be charged with felonies if I possessed up on the black market for any warlord, cartel or private para-military outfit to buy.
Also have long given up believing anything from anybody on this matter - even Trump, who too has joined the Gaslight Choir with his own verse and chorus.
My interest is in the confiscation of my tax dollars, putting weapons I paid for but would be charged with felonies if I possessed up on the black market for any warlord, cartel or private para-military outfit to buy.
Also have long given up believing anything from anybody on this matter - even Trump, who too has joined the Gaslight Choir with his own verse and chorus.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:18 AM (a4flb)
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99% of all the people in the wealthy areas of LA, who lost their homes to the fire, will still vote Democrat.
Posted by: Jonah at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (YCxFk)
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84 It's National Mac & Cheese Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
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Linda needs to clearly state, through her lawyer, that she was in fear of her life and had no alternative and was simply complying with her duty to retreat rather then confronting her attacker. The fact that the attackers accomplices tried to prevent her retreat is an affirmative defense.
Posted by: Alfred at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (b6c/x)
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Zohran Mamdani didn’t win despite being a socialist—he won because he spoke to working-class pain; if Republicans don’t, the future belongs to the left.
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This is exactly what Trump did. He's been speaking to the working class for 8+ years and has won them over. The difference between the two is that Mamdani's pie-in-the-sky socialist fever dreams of improving the lives of the working class will never happen. Trump has already benefitted these people and will continue to do so. Socialism sounds good to historically ignorant people. But it never pays off and it never will.
Republicans (candidates and politicians), otoh, seem to let these facts slip through their fingers and can't form cogent rebuttals to that failed hogwash of an ideology.
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This is exactly what Trump did. He's been speaking to the working class for 8+ years and has won them over. The difference between the two is that Mamdani's pie-in-the-sky socialist fever dreams of improving the lives of the working class will never happen. Trump has already benefitted these people and will continue to do so. Socialism sounds good to historically ignorant people. But it never pays off and it never will.
Republicans (candidates and politicians), otoh, seem to let these facts slip through their fingers and can't form cogent rebuttals to that failed hogwash of an ideology.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (qBdHI)
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Legalization And/Or Amnesty: Can It Ever Be Done Right?
Putting aside, for a moment, the question of people brought to the US as children...
- How many of the people needing amnesty are guilty of a crime? 100%
- How many of the people needing amnesty are a net positive for the country? I'll be nice... 5%
There's no way to do an amnesty which doesn't fuck over the actual citizens in favor of the interlopers. So, no.
Putting aside, for a moment, the question of people brought to the US as children...
- How many of the people needing amnesty are guilty of a crime? 100%
- How many of the people needing amnesty are a net positive for the country? I'll be nice... 5%
There's no way to do an amnesty which doesn't fuck over the actual citizens in favor of the interlopers. So, no.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:20 AM (ExV1e)
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Roglen has been charged with careless driving, reckless driving, leaving the scene of an accident and four counts of assault with a car resulting in bodily injury, according to the New York Post. Several protesters suffered injuries and one was taken to the hospital, News 12 reported.
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If she didn't smudge a rainbow crosswalk, charges should be dropped.
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If she didn't smudge a rainbow crosswalk, charges should be dropped.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:20 AM (3447G)
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99% of all the people in the wealthy areas of LA, who lost their homes to the fire, will still vote Democrat.
And 81 million people voted for Biden.
And 81 million people voted for Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2025 08:20 AM (noPDf)
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Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ
Having been forced to wear at mask at work for my last three years, I find the mask hypocrisy most galling.
Having been forced to wear at mask at work for my last three years, I find the mask hypocrisy most galling.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:21 AM (RIvkX)
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No headlines to the contrary, so I’m guessing Bongimminee clocked in this morning. Hysterical inter webs hardest hit.
He probably missed his morning cold plunge and that is what made him irritable and taking a mental health day.
Or he just needed a three day weekend, and drama sells better than just setting OOO on the Teams calendar.
He probably missed his morning cold plunge and that is what made him irritable and taking a mental health day.
Or he just needed a three day weekend, and drama sells better than just setting OOO on the Teams calendar.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:21 AM (a4flb)
99
37. If true, should be arrested
Posted by: Jonah at July 14, 2025 08:21 AM (YCxFk)
100
How much agriculture actually has to be picked by people nowadays? As in, there are machines that can do it that farms just don't want to invest in because illegals are cheaper?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
With depreciation and write offs, sounds like they need better accountants. Cash under the table adds up.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
With depreciation and write offs, sounds like they need better accountants. Cash under the table adds up.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:21 AM (+bLMA)
101
As a kid, I hated puppet shows. Cheap skate cartoons suck.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 08:22 AM (W3T6M)
102
Good morning Horde, thx JJ. Happy Monday.
If a case is bet built against deep staters it will be interesting to see what happens if one of them , such as Brennan, tries to argue that he has a Biden pardon. Autopen becomes an important issue
If a case is bet built against deep staters it will be interesting to see what happens if one of them , such as Brennan, tries to argue that he has a Biden pardon. Autopen becomes an important issue
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 08:22 AM (Ry3Y5)
103
As a kid, I hated puppet shows. Cheap skate cartoons suck.
Posted by: pudinhead
Clearly a fan of 'Clutch Cargo'.
NOT!!
Posted by: pudinhead
Clearly a fan of 'Clutch Cargo'.
NOT!!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 08:23 AM (cYBz/)
104
There's no way to do an amnesty which doesn't fuck over the actual citizens in favor of the interlopers. So, no.
Or the millions who went through all of the bureaucratic hassles and expenses of going from visa to naturalization.
They demand an explanation/apology.
Or the millions who went through all of the bureaucratic hassles and expenses of going from visa to naturalization.
They demand an explanation/apology.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:23 AM (a4flb)
105
@102
>>If a case is bet built against deep staters it will be interesting to see what happens if one of them , such as Brennan, tries to argue that he has a Biden pardon. Autopen becomes an important issue
The statute of limitations has run out for all of their potential crimes, so whatever "investigation" they are doing is largely symbolic and boob bait for the bubbas.
>>If a case is bet built against deep staters it will be interesting to see what happens if one of them , such as Brennan, tries to argue that he has a Biden pardon. Autopen becomes an important issue
The statute of limitations has run out for all of their potential crimes, so whatever "investigation" they are doing is largely symbolic and boob bait for the bubbas.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:24 AM (XV/Pl)
106
Finally. Trump's first Judge of his second term will be confirmed later today. Thune is a slow roller like McConnell
Posted by: Jonah at July 14, 2025 08:24 AM (YCxFk)
107
103 As a kid, I hated puppet shows. Cheap skate cartoons suck.
Posted by: pudinhead
Clearly a fan of 'Clutch Cargo'.
NOT!!
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Well, the jaws would go up and down.
Posted by: pudinhead
Clearly a fan of 'Clutch Cargo'.
NOT!!
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Well, the jaws would go up and down.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 08:24 AM (W3T6M)
108
So, what are you supposed to do as a driver when a group of rioters surround your car and threaten you?
The left/FNM keep playing this game as if having a hostile mob surround you is no biggie. We've seen this example come up against and again.
Charlottesville where the armed mob chased James Alex Fields and he crashed into another car.
Austin where an armed mob surrounded Daniel Perry and he shot a man before he himself could be shot
Portland where a mob surrounded Andy Ngo and beat him.
And on and on.
But sure, let's pretend this is no threat to people surrounded by leftist mobs
The left/FNM keep playing this game as if having a hostile mob surround you is no biggie. We've seen this example come up against and again.
Charlottesville where the armed mob chased James Alex Fields and he crashed into another car.
Austin where an armed mob surrounded Daniel Perry and he shot a man before he himself could be shot
Portland where a mob surrounded Andy Ngo and beat him.
And on and on.
But sure, let's pretend this is no threat to people surrounded by leftist mobs
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:24 AM (t0Rmr)
109
Republicans (candidates and politicians), otoh, seem to let these facts slip through their fingers and can't form cogent rebuttals to that failed hogwash of an ideology.
Because they don't feel a need to.
Because they don't feel a need to.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:25 AM (a4flb)
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84 It's National Mac & Cheese Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
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And yet now I want some...
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
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And yet now I want some...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 08:25 AM (7fElN)
111
good morning JJ, Horde
Bastille Day ... followed not long after by guillotines, mass drownings, and the genocide of Catholic loyalists in the Vendee.
The early Bolsheviks were big fans of the Jacobins.
Bastille Day ... followed not long after by guillotines, mass drownings, and the genocide of Catholic loyalists in the Vendee.
The early Bolsheviks were big fans of the Jacobins.
Posted by: callsign claymore at July 14, 2025 08:25 AM (T+z9y)
112
@105, not necessarily. One thing about a conspiracy charge is that the continuation of the cover up by actions keeps tollng the statute of limitations
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 08:26 AM (Ry3Y5)
113
It's National Mac & Cheese Day.
Posted by: redridinghood
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx
Some folks actually think the Kraft garbage is mac and cheese.
Posted by: redridinghood
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx
Some folks actually think the Kraft garbage is mac and cheese.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 08:26 AM (cYBz/)
114
92 Linda needs to clearly state, through her lawyer, that she was in fear of her life and had no alternative and was simply complying with her duty to retreat rather then confronting her attacker. The fact that the attackers accomplices tried to prevent her retreat is an affirmative defense.
she should have leaned on her horn and shouted pertinent obscenities- like warned them "hey !!! if you don't move your !!! I am going to flatten your !!!"
it's the only thing NJers understand
regardless I hope she walks. I would have done the same, but with the horn laid on and the screaming curses
she should have leaned on her horn and shouted pertinent obscenities- like warned them "hey !!! if you don't move your !!! I am going to flatten your !!!"
it's the only thing NJers understand
regardless I hope she walks. I would have done the same, but with the horn laid on and the screaming curses
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:27 AM (Pv3Rg)
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So, what are you supposed to do as a driver when a group of rioters surround your car and threaten you?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:24 AM (t0Rmr)
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You should drive straight to Florida, where I believe the law explicitly allows you to run over rioters who threaten you while in a vehicle.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:24 AM (t0Rmr)
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You should drive straight to Florida, where I believe the law explicitly allows you to run over rioters who threaten you while in a vehicle.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:27 AM (3447G)
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>>The statute of limitations has run out for all of their potential crimes, so whatever "investigation" they are doing is largely symbolic and boob bait for the bubbas.
The statute of limitations for a conspiracy ends 5 years from the final overt act of the conspiracy. If they are trying to build a conspiracy where all of these actions were related to the same conspiracy then they still have time. Not much but some.
Jack Smith's attempt to take out Trump is within the 5 year window and that part of the conspiracy happened in Florida not DC.
The statute of limitations for a conspiracy ends 5 years from the final overt act of the conspiracy. If they are trying to build a conspiracy where all of these actions were related to the same conspiracy then they still have time. Not much but some.
Jack Smith's attempt to take out Trump is within the 5 year window and that part of the conspiracy happened in Florida not DC.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:27 AM (viF8m)
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113 Some folks actually think the Kraft garbage is mac and cheese.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 08:26 AM (cYBz/)
In Canada, they just call it "Dinner".
Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 08:26 AM (cYBz/)
In Canada, they just call it "Dinner".
Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (UnA8+)
118
from tech thread 118
"I'm beginning to believe the whole Epstein mishegoss is a deep state psy-ops to get MAGA to turn on itself."
This guy gets it!
"I'm beginning to believe the whole Epstein mishegoss is a deep state psy-ops to get MAGA to turn on itself."
This guy gets it!
Posted by: 3X12ax7 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (rJJmW)
119
Doesn't Florida have a law or whatever that says if you're surrounded by a mob in your car you can, if you wish, leave? Even if it means running over them.
This should be a no brainer. Everywhere.
This should be a no brainer. Everywhere.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (Q4IgG)
120
she should have leaned on her horn and shouted pertinent obscenities- like warned them "hey !!! if you don't move your !!! I am going to flatten your !!! ***"
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:27 AM (Pv3Rg)
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FIFY
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:27 AM (Pv3Rg)
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FIFY
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (3447G)
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You should drive straight to Florida, where I believe the law explicitly allows you to run over rioters who threaten you while in a vehicle.
The Instapundit guy was almost cancelled for arguing this should be the law nationwide.
The Instapundit guy was almost cancelled for arguing this should be the law nationwide.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (t0Rmr)
122
Some folks actually think the Kraft garbage is mac and cheese.
Its always been that way, in the 70s my father called it "Cardboard and Plastic" and that is how it is referred to today by everyone in the family and extended family.
Its always been that way, in the 70s my father called it "Cardboard and Plastic" and that is how it is referred to today by everyone in the family and extended family.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (a4flb)
123
heh 118 x 118 = awesome job Tube Guy!
Posted by: 3X12ax7 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (rJJmW)
124
https://tinyurl.com/5n64wn79 (link goes to accordingtohoyt.com)
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (oyXgq)
I'm retrieving this wonderful take on Epstein by Sarah Hoyt willowed from the earlier thread. MAGA is being psy-oped and spammed to turn on Trump and itself.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (oyXgq)
I'm retrieving this wonderful take on Epstein by Sarah Hoyt willowed from the earlier thread. MAGA is being psy-oped and spammed to turn on Trump and itself.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 08:29 AM (WHfpM)
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“Things just slowed down after our initial report. We were not getting access to [U.S.] Secret Service personnel,” Johnson said. “When President Trump won, I think my assumption was that his FBI, his Department of Justice, would certainly hop on this, investigate it, and produce the result. That hasn’t happened.”
Crooks had support and help.
PS I think he was killed by local popo and the sniper fired into his dead body.
Crooks had support and help.
PS I think he was killed by local popo and the sniper fired into his dead body.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:29 AM (gbOdA)
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The Instapundit guy was almost cancelled for arguing this should be the law nationwide.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (t0Rmr)
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If I were Geico, I'd cancel him, too!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (t0Rmr)
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If I were Geico, I'd cancel him, too!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:29 AM (3447G)
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So if that narrative is correct, apparently it was just Prince Andrew and Epstein that engaged in these activities.
I've mentioned this before but some people haven't heard, I guess.
Prince Andrew has never been accused of having sex with a minor. He was sued by Virginia Giuffre of "knowing that she was being trafficked and not rescuing her". Lots of people throw out that he was a client of Epstein based on nothing more than the emotional rantings of other people who also don't know anything.
I've mentioned this before but some people haven't heard, I guess.
Prince Andrew has never been accused of having sex with a minor. He was sued by Virginia Giuffre of "knowing that she was being trafficked and not rescuing her". Lots of people throw out that he was a client of Epstein based on nothing more than the emotional rantings of other people who also don't know anything.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:29 AM (ExV1e)
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108 So, what are you supposed to do as a driver when a group of rioters surround your car and threaten you?
I've actually had this happen on broad street in the daytime like 4pm when degens were gathering for a "party"
I did what I described above but I ALSO didn't just go straight which helped me find some space and get some acceleration which somehow got the herd to part. I also drove on the curb
but it was scary - I mean, and exhilarating to tell the truth. but I knew one way or the other I was not stopping and not getting overrun. and I had a Land Rover
I've actually had this happen on broad street in the daytime like 4pm when degens were gathering for a "party"
I did what I described above but I ALSO didn't just go straight which helped me find some space and get some acceleration which somehow got the herd to part. I also drove on the curb
but it was scary - I mean, and exhilarating to tell the truth. but I knew one way or the other I was not stopping and not getting overrun. and I had a Land Rover
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:30 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Legalization And/Or Amnesty: Can It Ever Be Done Right?
Putting aside, for a moment, the question of people brought to the US as children...
- How many of the people needing amnesty are guilty of a crime? 100%
- How many of the people needing amnesty are a net positive for the country? I'll be nice... 5%
There's no way to do an amnesty which doesn't fuck over the actual citizens in favor of the interlopers. So, no.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Hell no, you can't. You have people who are doing it legally who are STILL waiting and they want to jump illegals to the front of the line?
Putting aside, for a moment, the question of people brought to the US as children...
- How many of the people needing amnesty are guilty of a crime? 100%
- How many of the people needing amnesty are a net positive for the country? I'll be nice... 5%
There's no way to do an amnesty which doesn't fuck over the actual citizens in favor of the interlopers. So, no.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Hell no, you can't. You have people who are doing it legally who are STILL waiting and they want to jump illegals to the front of the line?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:30 AM (+bLMA)
130
Sometimes, they attack federal buildings, shut down freeways and pelt patrol cars with concrete. They continue with impunity because they know the Democrat Party cannot and will not censure them. . .
The only way this stops is when high ranking leftist leaders, likely Dem office holders, go to jail.
The street level thugs get paid to participate in these riots, and get rewarded after local leftist police arrest and release them.
The only way this stops is when high ranking leftist leaders, likely Dem office holders, go to jail.
The street level thugs get paid to participate in these riots, and get rewarded after local leftist police arrest and release them.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:30 AM (t0Rmr)
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It's National Mac & Cheese Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
I can't even stand smelling it. Makes me want to retch.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
I can't even stand smelling it. Makes me want to retch.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 08:30 AM (0eaVi)
132
Just trying to understand the narrative...
The Epstein list doesn't exist because reasons. The 'files' provided to SM 'influencers' by the WH contained nothing but previously available information. The FBI in the form of Bongino and Patel are at odds with DoJ. The issue of Epstein and his activities is a distraction from the good things that are in progress or that have happened since DTS started his second term. There is a massive investigation of the deep state underway and it's about to get real in a few days. It that an accurate summation?
The Epstein list doesn't exist because reasons. The 'files' provided to SM 'influencers' by the WH contained nothing but previously available information. The FBI in the form of Bongino and Patel are at odds with DoJ. The issue of Epstein and his activities is a distraction from the good things that are in progress or that have happened since DTS started his second term. There is a massive investigation of the deep state underway and it's about to get real in a few days. It that an accurate summation?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 14, 2025 08:31 AM (3Ope8)
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To whom?
She was convicted of trafficking them to Epstein.
You can believe that there was more to it than that but that's what she was convicted of.
She was convicted of trafficking them to Epstein.
You can believe that there was more to it than that but that's what she was convicted of.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:31 AM (ExV1e)
134
Coming soon to theaters this summer from Sesame Street SS Workshop Films.
"The Eternal Jew 2: Elmo's SA Boogaloo".
"The Eternal Jew 2: Elmo's SA Boogaloo".
Posted by: Tickle Me Elmo at July 14, 2025 08:31 AM (rfMRc)
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I'm retrieving this wonderful take on Epstein by Sarah Hoyt willowed from the earlier thread. MAGA is being psy-oped and spammed to turn on Trump and itself.
thanks for relinking that! I read that yesterday and wanted to share it here!
Imma share it again because it's important and clearly what they're attempting:
https://tinyurl.com/5n64wn79
look at insty comments for example. loads of trolls using this tack
thanks for relinking that! I read that yesterday and wanted to share it here!
Imma share it again because it's important and clearly what they're attempting:
https://tinyurl.com/5n64wn79
look at insty comments for example. loads of trolls using this tack
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:31 AM (Pv3Rg)
136
It's just another Merlot Monday.
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at July 14, 2025 08:32 AM (XQo4F)
137
So, what are you supposed to do as a driver when a group of rioters surround your car and threaten you?
The left/FNM keep playing this game as if having a hostile mob surround you is no biggie. We've seen this example come up against and again.
Charlottesville where the armed mob chased James Alex Fields and he crashed into another car.
Austin where an armed mob surrounded Daniel Perry and he shot a man before he himself could be shot
Portland where a mob surrounded Andy Ngo and beat him.
And on and on.
But sure, let's pretend this is no threat to people surrounded by leftist mobs
Posted by: 18-1
One word: Reginald Demny
The left/FNM keep playing this game as if having a hostile mob surround you is no biggie. We've seen this example come up against and again.
Charlottesville where the armed mob chased James Alex Fields and he crashed into another car.
Austin where an armed mob surrounded Daniel Perry and he shot a man before he himself could be shot
Portland where a mob surrounded Andy Ngo and beat him.
And on and on.
But sure, let's pretend this is no threat to people surrounded by leftist mobs
Posted by: 18-1
One word: Reginald Demny
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:33 AM (+bLMA)
138
I've actually had this happen on broad street in the daytime like 4pm when degens were gathering for a "party"
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Broad and where?
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Broad and where?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 08:33 AM (RIvkX)
139
Elmo Goes Full Nazi in Hacked Social Media Posts: ‘Kill All Jews’
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OUT: Never Again.
IN: Remember the Elmo.
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OUT: Never Again.
IN: Remember the Elmo.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:33 AM (3447G)
140
@116
>>Jack Smith's attempt to take out Trump is within the 5 year window and that part of the conspiracy happened in Florida not DC.
Jack Smith has official cover, and the only people named as being "investigated," are Brennan and Comey, who's last days in office were roughly a decade ago.
So I'm not quite sure what they are "investigating."
>>Jack Smith's attempt to take out Trump is within the 5 year window and that part of the conspiracy happened in Florida not DC.
Jack Smith has official cover, and the only people named as being "investigated," are Brennan and Comey, who's last days in office were roughly a decade ago.
So I'm not quite sure what they are "investigating."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:33 AM (XV/Pl)
141
The financial scale of public education in the United States is staggering. In 2019, per-pupil spending averaged $13,187, with total K-12 expenditures reaching $739 billion.
Taiwan 804,889
We could just double Taiwans GDP and tell them to edumacation our chillrins.
Taiwan 804,889
We could just double Taiwans GDP and tell them to edumacation our chillrins.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (gbOdA)
142
Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
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And yet now I want some...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 08:25 AM
******
Best Mac & Cheese is with cavattapi pasta, sharp cheddar, Gruyère, and Parmesan,
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 08:19 AM (gbOdA)
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And yet now I want some...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 08:25 AM
******
Best Mac & Cheese is with cavattapi pasta, sharp cheddar, Gruyère, and Parmesan,
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (NpAcC)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (Pv3Rg)
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There's no way to do an amnesty which doesn't fuck over the actual citizens in favor of the interlopers. So, no.
Or the millions who went through all of the bureaucratic hassles and expenses of going from visa to naturalization.
They demand an explanation/apology.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
And a lump sum refund.
Or the millions who went through all of the bureaucratic hassles and expenses of going from visa to naturalization.
They demand an explanation/apology.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
And a lump sum refund.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (+bLMA)
Posted by: 3X12ax7 at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (rJJmW)
146
- How many of the people needing amnesty are guilty of a crime? 100%
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Maybe I missed context upthread, but I don't understand this statement. What about someone who goes to US embassy to request asylum because the new regime is killing people who were friendly with the old regime, even if they haven't bothered yet to justify the killings by going through sham process to accuse this person of a crime.
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Maybe I missed context upthread, but I don't understand this statement. What about someone who goes to US embassy to request asylum because the new regime is killing people who were friendly with the old regime, even if they haven't bothered yet to justify the killings by going through sham process to accuse this person of a crime.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (Dv3i1)
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There is a massive investigation of the deep state underway and it's about to get real in a few days. It that an accurate summation?
Hearsay at this point. Plus, if they can't do the small things, what makes you think they can do the big things?
The FBI and the entire Babylon DC system is Ukraine levels of total corruption. They would rather send out a division of FBI agents to stand around a sniper scene in Idaho, or a battalion out to a popular NASCAR event to investigate a rope-pull, or troll the parking lot of school board meetings to harass and arrest concerned parents than to actually investigate their spouses, friends, family and neighbors who are all part of the Deep State corruption.
Hearsay at this point. Plus, if they can't do the small things, what makes you think they can do the big things?
The FBI and the entire Babylon DC system is Ukraine levels of total corruption. They would rather send out a division of FBI agents to stand around a sniper scene in Idaho, or a battalion out to a popular NASCAR event to investigate a rope-pull, or troll the parking lot of school board meetings to harass and arrest concerned parents than to actually investigate their spouses, friends, family and neighbors who are all part of the Deep State corruption.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (a4flb)
148
If you are law abiding normie going 35 in a 30 MPH zone trying to get to daycare before it closes because work ran late, Urban Police Officer Donut will pull you over, will make you respect his authoritay, and will make you pay through the nose in penalties and insurance increases. Officer Donut will tell you we all have to obey the law and exceeding the speed limit is dangerous.
But if you are a thug blocking the roads or even looting, burning, and assaulting people? Well, Officer Donut's superiors are going to tell him to not be a hero and give you space to destroy, and he will....
But if you are a thug blocking the roads or even looting, burning, and assaulting people? Well, Officer Donut's superiors are going to tell him to not be a hero and give you space to destroy, and he will....
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (t0Rmr)
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You have people who are doing it legally who are STILL waiting and they want to jump illegals to the front of the line?
Posted by: rickb223
Asked a liberal once if amnesty got passed would the people who have spent money doing it legally should get refunded and he said no.
Posted by: rickb223
Asked a liberal once if amnesty got passed would the people who have spent money doing it legally should get refunded and he said no.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (lXoJ5)
150
It's weird to see so many people pro-sex trafficking and anti Mac and cheese.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 08:36 AM (yAZTR)
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Maybe I missed context upthread, but I don't understand this statement. What about someone who goes to US embassy to request asylum because the new regime is killing people who were friendly with the old regime, even if they haven't bothered yet to justify the killings by going through sham process to accuse this person of a crime.
In that case, you marry your sibling and parlay that into a Congressional gig and millions of dollars.
In that case, you marry your sibling and parlay that into a Congressional gig and millions of dollars.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:36 AM (a4flb)
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But if you are a thug blocking the roads or even looting, burning, and assaulting people? Well, Officer Donut's superiors are going to tell him to not be a hero and give you space to destroy, and he will....
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (t0Rmr)
To preserve, protect and defend . . . muh pension.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (t0Rmr)
To preserve, protect and defend . . . muh pension.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 14, 2025 08:37 AM (x0n13)
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So, what are you supposed to do as a driver when a group of rioters surround your car and threaten you?
The left is going to miss civilization when it's gone.
The left is going to miss civilization when it's gone.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 08:37 AM (lXoJ5)
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"The FBI and the entire Babylon DC system is Ukraine levels of total corruption."
This guy, also, gets it he does
This guy, also, gets it he does
Posted by: 3X12ax7 at July 14, 2025 08:37 AM (rJJmW)
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Thune is a slow roller like McConnell
I see that you fail to understand legislative necessity. If we were to operate at a reasonable pace, if we were to deal with legislation in an ongoing and timely manner, we wouldn't need to have a rushed vote on an omnibus pile of shit at the end of the fiscal year. -- John Thune
I see that you fail to understand legislative necessity. If we were to operate at a reasonable pace, if we were to deal with legislation in an ongoing and timely manner, we wouldn't need to have a rushed vote on an omnibus pile of shit at the end of the fiscal year. -- John Thune
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:37 AM (ExV1e)
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There is a massive investigation of the deep state underway and it's about to get real in a few days. It that an accurate summation?
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News from 2018.
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News from 2018.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 08:38 AM (yAZTR)
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>>Jack Smith has official cover, and the only people named as being "investigated," are Brennan and Comey, who's last days in office were roughly a decade ago.
>>So I'm not quite sure what they are "investigating."
They are investigating a conspiracy to stop Trump from getting elected, 3 times, and using the intel community to do it. The premise that Solomon is describing is that everything from the cover up of Hillary's email server to the Russia hoax to the attempt to rig the 2020 election to Jack Smith were part of the same conspiracy.
Whether they can prove that and will pursue it remains to be seen but I don't think there are many here who don't believe it's true.
>>So I'm not quite sure what they are "investigating."
They are investigating a conspiracy to stop Trump from getting elected, 3 times, and using the intel community to do it. The premise that Solomon is describing is that everything from the cover up of Hillary's email server to the Russia hoax to the attempt to rig the 2020 election to Jack Smith were part of the same conspiracy.
Whether they can prove that and will pursue it remains to be seen but I don't think there are many here who don't believe it's true.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:38 AM (viF8m)
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I like the crime of "leaving the scene of an accident".
I think that was the point, to flee for her life from the ironically named terror group: "United Against Fear"
And it was NOT an accident. They approached the car to assault her and maybe worse.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
They actually did assault her. Spit on her. Assault with a deadly/chemical weapon.
Hepatitis C is the least of her worries. No idea what diseases those fucks are carrying.
I think that was the point, to flee for her life from the ironically named terror group: "United Against Fear"
And it was NOT an accident. They approached the car to assault her and maybe worse.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
They actually did assault her. Spit on her. Assault with a deadly/chemical weapon.
Hepatitis C is the least of her worries. No idea what diseases those fucks are carrying.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:38 AM (+bLMA)
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It's weird to see so many people pro-sex trafficking and anti Mac and cheese.
No kidding. Next they will euthanize grandma and declare apple pie to be toxic and cause metabolic dysfunction.
No kidding. Next they will euthanize grandma and declare apple pie to be toxic and cause metabolic dysfunction.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:38 AM (a4flb)
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The US is full. We've taken tens of millions of legal and illegal immigrants.
So, unfortunately the only real refugees we take in should be hand picked, like Trump with the SA people.
If people don't like that they can help us remove the tens of millions of illegals, end H1Bs, and finish integrating the current legal immigrants and after a decade or so of no immigration we can start to talk about real refugees again
So, unfortunately the only real refugees we take in should be hand picked, like Trump with the SA people.
If people don't like that they can help us remove the tens of millions of illegals, end H1Bs, and finish integrating the current legal immigrants and after a decade or so of no immigration we can start to talk about real refugees again
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:39 AM (t0Rmr)
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Fun timez put in Google maps: Camp Mystic Cypress Lake
Go to: https://www.historicaerials.com/viewer
Paste: 30.0082997,-99.3758589 in the search bar.
Click: "aerials"
Zoom in on Camp Mystic Lake
Look at 2022 and 2018
Note that nearly all of the cabins at this "100 year old" camp were built in the floodplain AFTER 2018. Building variances HAD to be given by building inspectors.
What happened at Camp Mystic Lake was homicide.
Go to: https://www.historicaerials.com/viewer
Paste: 30.0082997,-99.3758589 in the search bar.
Click: "aerials"
Zoom in on Camp Mystic Lake
Look at 2022 and 2018
Note that nearly all of the cabins at this "100 year old" camp were built in the floodplain AFTER 2018. Building variances HAD to be given by building inspectors.
What happened at Camp Mystic Lake was homicide.
Posted by: Marooned at July 14, 2025 08:39 AM (kt8QE)
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You should drive straight to Florida, where I believe the law explicitly allows you to run over rioters who threaten you while in a vehicle.
The Instapundit guy was almost cancelled for arguing this should be the law nationwide.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (t0Rmr)
It should be. And, I'd add "assholes who block the road because of muh Gaia" to the list of organic speedbumps.
The Instapundit guy was almost cancelled for arguing this should be the law nationwide.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:28 AM (t0Rmr)
It should be. And, I'd add "assholes who block the road because of muh Gaia" to the list of organic speedbumps.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:39 AM (ExV1e)
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Most overrated dish ever.
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Add bacon. It's like slapping hot iron on food.
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Add bacon. It's like slapping hot iron on food.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 14, 2025 08:40 AM (p16cu)
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Whether they can prove that and will pursue it remains to be seen but I don't think there are many here who don't believe it's true.
On the positive side, this Snipe Hunt will keep the FBI investigators and lawyers busy. Idle Hands = Devil's Workshop.
On the positive side, this Snipe Hunt will keep the FBI investigators and lawyers busy. Idle Hands = Devil's Workshop.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:40 AM (a4flb)
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Mornin’, All. Happy Monday.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:41 AM (77rzZ)
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It's weird to see so many people pro-sex trafficking and anti Mac and cheese.
No kidding. Next they will euthanize grandma and declare apple pie to be toxic and cause metabolic dysfunction.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
*Canada has entered the chat
No kidding. Next they will euthanize grandma and declare apple pie to be toxic and cause metabolic dysfunction.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
*Canada has entered the chat
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:41 AM (+bLMA)
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How much agriculture actually has to be picked by people nowadays"
I'd guess that most would be surprised to learn how much is done by machine, and it's always cheaper or faster...
I'd guess that most would be surprised to learn how much is done by machine, and it's always cheaper or faster...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 08:42 AM (tubbA)
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The Instapundit guy was almost cancelled for arguing this should be the law nationwide.
Particularly since the legislation should have permitted the use of crew served weapons as a part of the defensive tactics package.
Particularly since the legislation should have permitted the use of crew served weapons as a part of the defensive tactics package.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:42 AM (a4flb)
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@157
>>Whether they can prove that and will pursue it remains to be seen but I don't think there are many here who don't believe it's true.
It's all true, but the time to do something about it was during the first Trump administration, there pretty much is nothing that can be done to these people as the statute of limitations has run out for most, if not all of the potential crimes.
This "investigation" seems like Durham Part Two - Piss Down My Back and Tell Me It's Rain Boogaloo.
>>Whether they can prove that and will pursue it remains to be seen but I don't think there are many here who don't believe it's true.
It's all true, but the time to do something about it was during the first Trump administration, there pretty much is nothing that can be done to these people as the statute of limitations has run out for most, if not all of the potential crimes.
This "investigation" seems like Durham Part Two - Piss Down My Back and Tell Me It's Rain Boogaloo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:42 AM (XV/Pl)
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Note that nearly all of the cabins at this "100 year old" camp were built in the floodplain AFTER 2018. Building variances HAD to be given by building inspectors.
The government has actually done a pretty decent job in collecting information on flood plains and giving them rough designations as to how often they flood.
But everyone from developers, to the government, to the media, then just pretend those areas won't flood at some point, just because they probably won't flood this year or the next .
Note that nearly all of the cabins at this "100 year old" camp were built in the floodplain AFTER 2018. Building variances HAD to be given by building inspectors.
The government has actually done a pretty decent job in collecting information on flood plains and giving them rough designations as to how often they flood.
But everyone from developers, to the government, to the media, then just pretend those areas won't flood at some point, just because they probably won't flood this year or the next .
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:42 AM (t0Rmr)
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Add bacon. It's like slapping hot iron on food.
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Quality cheese is essential, too. Maybe a little crust of bread crumbs.
Made from scratch, with bacon, is miles above Kraft box.
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Quality cheese is essential, too. Maybe a little crust of bread crumbs.
Made from scratch, with bacon, is miles above Kraft box.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 08:43 AM (/exTw)
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Best Mac & Cheese is with cavattapi pasta, sharp cheddar, Gruyère, and Parmesan,
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (NpAcC)
You forgot the gouda.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (NpAcC)
You forgot the gouda.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 14, 2025 08:43 AM (Xan+A)
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Note that nearly all of the cabins at this "100 year old" camp were built in the floodplain AFTER 2018. Building variances HAD to be given by building inspectors.
someone had a pal in local gov to approve THAT
someone had a pal in local gov to approve THAT
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 14, 2025 08:43 AM (Pv3Rg)
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MAGA is being psy-oped and spammed to turn on Trump and itself.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 08:29 AM (WHfpM)
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No. Look at all the evidence over the years. Plus the damage much of that evidence should've done to the Dems themselves.
DeBill in a Blue Dress.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 08:29 AM (WHfpM)
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No. Look at all the evidence over the years. Plus the damage much of that evidence should've done to the Dems themselves.
DeBill in a Blue Dress.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:44 AM (3447G)
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 08:44 AM (tubbA)
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I appreciate Sarah Hoyt's take on the Epstein situation, and yet she can be so hard to read.
She takes three paragraphs to state the essence of a single sentence and desperately needs an editor to catch all the typos.
She takes three paragraphs to state the essence of a single sentence and desperately needs an editor to catch all the typos.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (XQo4F)
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How much agriculture actually has to be picked by people nowadays"
The government statistics says there are about 1M people in the US who are farmhands - working on a farm but not part of the family that own the farm.
Now if we have 1M farmhands and 40M illegals let's ask the question of what the vast majority of those illegals are doing for income.
The government statistics says there are about 1M people in the US who are farmhands - working on a farm but not part of the family that own the farm.
Now if we have 1M farmhands and 40M illegals let's ask the question of what the vast majority of those illegals are doing for income.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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Mac ‘n’ cheese is awesome.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (77rzZ)
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Roglen Was 100% justified in running that vermin over. Watch the video. They attacked her car! What else was she supposed to do? Just sit there until these mutanous animals dragged her out of the car and Reginald Denny-ed her?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (NgBDl)
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>>It's all true, but the time to do something about it was during the first Trump administration, there pretty much is nothing that can be done to these people as the statute of limitations has run out for most, if not all of the potential crimes.
Again, not true. If it was in fact one big conspiracy as Solomon is alleging then they were discreet acts, they were all part of the same conspiracy. And the statute of limitations for the entire conspiracy starts ticking after the last act of the conspiracy.
If they can show that Smith was part of that conspriracy then in theory everything that was done to stop Trump since 2016 is in play.
Again, not true. If it was in fact one big conspiracy as Solomon is alleging then they were discreet acts, they were all part of the same conspiracy. And the statute of limitations for the entire conspiracy starts ticking after the last act of the conspiracy.
If they can show that Smith was part of that conspriracy then in theory everything that was done to stop Trump since 2016 is in play.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (viF8m)
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Maybe I missed context upthread, but I don't understand this statement. What about someone who goes to US embassy to request asylum because the new regime is killing people who were friendly with the old regime, even if they haven't bothered yet to justify the killings by going through sham process to accuse this person of a crime.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (Dv3i1)
If you go to a US embassy then you aren't in the US. Presumably, you were granted asylum prior to entering the US so you don't require amnesty. You've followed the rules so you're good. All seven people who've done that.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 14, 2025 08:35 AM (Dv3i1)
If you go to a US embassy then you aren't in the US. Presumably, you were granted asylum prior to entering the US so you don't require amnesty. You've followed the rules so you're good. All seven people who've done that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (ExV1e)
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Kraft Mac n Cheese is the American version of Ramen. BTW, its better than Ramen. Add a mayonnaise sandwich with your Mac n Cheese and you have a balanced diet.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (W3T6M)
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I like John Solomon but he’s just not gonna “uncover the deep state” whatever that means…. About 3 people on the entire planet read his form of long form investigative journalism… in the age of TikTok no one is gonna read it even if he “brings the goods”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (ANuwa)
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I appreciate Sarah Hoyt's take on the Epstein situation, and yet she can be so hard to read.
She takes three paragraphs to state the essence of a single sentence and desperately needs an editor to catch all the typos.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (XQo4F)
Yup, and it's something that a lot of authors fall prey to.
She takes three paragraphs to state the essence of a single sentence and desperately needs an editor to catch all the typos.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (XQo4F)
Yup, and it's something that a lot of authors fall prey to.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (tKZgo)
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It's also..
National Nude Day.
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (NpAcC)
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weren't
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (viF8m)
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Kraft Mac n Cheese is the American version of Ramen. BTW, its better than Ramen. Add a mayonnaise sandwich with your Mac n Cheese and you have a balanced diet.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (W3T6M)
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And some RC cola.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (W3T6M)
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And some RC cola.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (tKZgo)
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If you go to a US embassy then you aren't in the US. Presumably, you were granted asylum prior to entering the US so you don't require amnesty. You've followed the rules so you're good. All seven people who've done that.
In most cases the only people that could get asylum the legal way would be Canucks or Mexicans. And I believe we have close to zero "refugees" from those countries.
I mean I suppose a Cuban could get on a boat to Florida but the last time that happened was...Elian Gonzalez?
In most cases the only people that could get asylum the legal way would be Canucks or Mexicans. And I believe we have close to zero "refugees" from those countries.
I mean I suppose a Cuban could get on a boat to Florida but the last time that happened was...Elian Gonzalez?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:47 AM (t0Rmr)
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Happy Start-of-the-disaster-known-as-the-French-Revolution Day.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 08:48 AM (77rzZ)
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It's also..
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (NpAcC)
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Will you cover this for us?
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (NpAcC)
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Will you cover this for us?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:48 AM (3447G)
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>>I like John Solomon but he’s just not gonna “uncover the deep state” whatever that means…. About 3 people on the entire planet read his form of long form investigative journalism… in the age of TikTok no one is gonna read it even if he “brings the goods”
He's not talking about uncovering it himself. He's talking about a special prosecutor.
He's not talking about uncovering it himself. He's talking about a special prosecutor.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:48 AM (viF8m)
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yet she can be so hard to read.
She takes three paragraphs to state the essence of a single sentence and desperately needs an editor to catch all the typos.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (XQo4F)
This is true. It's the main reason I stopped reading her. But in this case she at least partially constructs her piece in bullet points and it's easier to follow.
She takes three paragraphs to state the essence of a single sentence and desperately needs an editor to catch all the typos.
Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 08:45 AM (XQo4F)
This is true. It's the main reason I stopped reading her. But in this case she at least partially constructs her piece in bullet points and it's easier to follow.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 08:48 AM (WHfpM)
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And it's National Shark Awareness Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (NpAcC)
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"Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?" Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Friday.
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A functional idiot who is desperate to change the subject from her Westchester County upbringing and worried her constituents will discover how much money she has made as their representative chooses to falsely defame the President.
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A functional idiot who is desperate to change the subject from her Westchester County upbringing and worried her constituents will discover how much money she has made as their representative chooses to falsely defame the President.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (VZYiP)
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Looks like Trump cut a deal to keep the Epstein names secret.
Seems no matter what he is getting it is a bad deal.
Unless of course he plays this like the Dems play their deals. Get whatever the hell they are offering him - BBB, immigration restrictions, etc - then fire Blondi and put someone like Bongino in charge...
Seems no matter what he is getting it is a bad deal.
Unless of course he plays this like the Dems play their deals. Get whatever the hell they are offering him - BBB, immigration restrictions, etc - then fire Blondi and put someone like Bongino in charge...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (3447G)
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"Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?" Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Friday.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (SfhV1)
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Best Mac & Cheese is with cavattapi pasta, sharp cheddar, Gruyère, and Parmesan,
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (NpAcC)
You forgot the gouda.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
As gouda as always.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:34 AM (NpAcC)
You forgot the gouda.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
As gouda as always.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (+bLMA)
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Now if we had some sort of independent media, instead of the FNM, every time AoC talked with them they would ask her about Biden molesting his aide, and Clinton being an Epstein client and rapist...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (t0Rmr)
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Re advice when in a car surrounded by a mob.
Pretty easy for police to pass judgement - they have a specific law protecting them and can shoot people.
Politicians - with protection details, same thing.
JPFs - how would they react? Panic is one way.
Truth is, you surround a JPF's car and you put yourself in danger because you have zero idea how he'll react.
My rule of thumb: better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Pretty easy for police to pass judgement - they have a specific law protecting them and can shoot people.
Politicians - with protection details, same thing.
JPFs - how would they react? Panic is one way.
Truth is, you surround a JPF's car and you put yourself in danger because you have zero idea how he'll react.
My rule of thumb: better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (tKZgo)
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It's like a nude beach: sounds good until you get there.
Posted by: As Dennis Miller liked to say at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (XQo4F)
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"Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?" Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Friday.
Unbelievable.
Posted by: grammie winger
Not said "in the well".
Slander laws apply.
Unbelievable.
Posted by: grammie winger
Not said "in the well".
Slander laws apply.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (+bLMA)
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It's also..
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (NpAcC)
That never works out as one may hope.
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:46 AM (NpAcC)
That never works out as one may hope.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 14, 2025 08:52 AM (wVcYX)
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AOC is so dumb she once chipped her tooth on a viibrator.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 08:52 AM (tKZgo)
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It's like a nude beach: sounds good until you get there.
Posted by: As Dennis Miller liked to say at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (XQo4F)
Preach it.
Posted by: As Dennis Miller liked to say at July 14, 2025 08:51 AM (XQo4F)
Preach it.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 14, 2025 08:52 AM (SfhV1)
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185 It's also..
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood
Good. Keeps the mosquitoes occupied and away from me.
National Nude Day.
Posted by: redridinghood
Good. Keeps the mosquitoes occupied and away from me.
Posted by: Guarding My Dangly Bits at July 14, 2025 08:53 AM (G5+As)
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National Mac and Cheese Day: Eat mac and cheese
National Shark Awareness Day: Eat shark fin soup?
National Shark Awareness Day: Eat shark fin soup?
Posted by: callsign claymore at July 14, 2025 08:53 AM (T+z9y)
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Looks like Trump cut a deal to keep the Epstein names secret.
If he did that it's not working.. I saw someone had put out a photo gallery with at least 20 different pictures with Trump and Epstein and Maxwell and numerous young women.. Of course we know they were casual pictures from parties etc. that many others were at but it's being used to "prove" Trump is hiding his past with Epstein . Hint, hint underage girls...
If he did that it's not working.. I saw someone had put out a photo gallery with at least 20 different pictures with Trump and Epstein and Maxwell and numerous young women.. Of course we know they were casual pictures from parties etc. that many others were at but it's being used to "prove" Trump is hiding his past with Epstein . Hint, hint underage girls...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (VE6XX)
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What else was she supposed to do? Just sit there until these mutanous animals dragged her out of the car and Reginald Denny-ed her?
Basically, yes. The left believes that the protesters are morally correct in blocking traffic and you protecting yourself is interfering with their rights.
Basically, yes. The left believes that the protesters are morally correct in blocking traffic and you protecting yourself is interfering with their rights.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (lXoJ5)
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For those interested here is Solomon's article not just the headline. There's does seem to be evidence this was all part of the same conspiracy and there is a lot of important evidence that was kept not just from the American people but also Congress.
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (viF8m)
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Pretty easy for police to pass judgement - they have a specific law protecting them and can shoot people.
Several of these sorts of cases where normies defend themselves against leftists have gone to the courts now.
It seems the expectation of the courts is that Joe or Jane Normie has to be fully aware of all local and state regulations, as they are being attacked, and and derivation from those regulations will get you prison time.
It is absurd.
Hell, we are a highly politically aware bunch - how many of us knows the exact expectation of how you are supposed to react in your locale if attacked? And could you remember and follow them at 3 AM, or if suddenly a mob surrounds your car?
Pretty easy for police to pass judgement - they have a specific law protecting them and can shoot people.
Several of these sorts of cases where normies defend themselves against leftists have gone to the courts now.
It seems the expectation of the courts is that Joe or Jane Normie has to be fully aware of all local and state regulations, as they are being attacked, and and derivation from those regulations will get you prison time.
It is absurd.
Hell, we are a highly politically aware bunch - how many of us knows the exact expectation of how you are supposed to react in your locale if attacked? And could you remember and follow them at 3 AM, or if suddenly a mob surrounds your car?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (t0Rmr)
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Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?" Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Friday.
She’s so uninformed she’s not aware that Trump banned that creep from Mar a Lago years before Epstein died
She’s so uninformed she’s not aware that Trump banned that creep from Mar a Lago years before Epstein died
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (ANuwa)
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In most cases the only people that could get asylum the legal way would be Canucks or Mexicans. And I believe we have close to zero "refugees" from those countries.
I mean I suppose a Cuban could get on a boat to Florida but the last time that happened was...Elian Gonzalez?
Posted by: 18-1
And democrats sent men with machine guns to forcibly remove him.
I mean I suppose a Cuban could get on a boat to Florida but the last time that happened was...Elian Gonzalez?
Posted by: 18-1
And democrats sent men with machine guns to forcibly remove him.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 08:55 AM (+bLMA)
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Not quite sure why Trump is protecting The Deep State, but it appears he is protecting The Deep State.
Makes no sense, but there it is.
Makes no sense, but there it is.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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For those interested here is Solomon's article not just the headline. There's does seem to be evidence this was all part of the same conspiracy and there is a lot of important evidence that was kept not just from the American people but also Congress.
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (viF8m)
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As some might say in my neck of the woods: Inshallah!
https://tinyurl.com/3skxfu7b
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 08:54 AM (viF8m)
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As some might say in my neck of the woods: Inshallah!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (3447G)
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The Guardian: Trump authorizes Ice agents to protect themselves using 'whatever means' necessary. Trump said he’s told the administrators to “instruct all Ice, Homeland Security, or any other Law Enforcement Officer who is on the receiving end of thrown rocks, bricks, or any other form of assault, to stop their car, and arrest these SLIMEBALLS, using whatever means is necessary to do so”.
ICE can beat up and kill anyone they want. Accuse their victims of anything to justify it.
No longer a country of laws when a wannabe king decides who can overpower whom. We are at war, make no mistake.
What about Americans? Can we protect ourselves by any means? My oath to the constitution says I MUST.
Trump is actually declaring his own type of Martial Law with that statement. When they murder people, he'll pardon them a second time, since there are likely many Jan 6 criminals who joined ICE.
California can pass their own laws and then arrest and detain ICE members and put them in jail for violating the law.
Why they dont do that is beyond me.
ICE can beat up and kill anyone they want. Accuse their victims of anything to justify it.
No longer a country of laws when a wannabe king decides who can overpower whom. We are at war, make no mistake.
What about Americans? Can we protect ourselves by any means? My oath to the constitution says I MUST.
Trump is actually declaring his own type of Martial Law with that statement. When they murder people, he'll pardon them a second time, since there are likely many Jan 6 criminals who joined ICE.
California can pass their own laws and then arrest and detain ICE members and put them in jail for violating the law.
Why they dont do that is beyond me.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (ycI94)
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Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?" Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Friday.
This is about me right?
This is about me right?
Posted by: Billy Jeff, The El Camino Rapist at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (rfMRc)
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Basically, yes. The left believes that the protesters are morally correct in blocking traffic and you protecting yourself is interfering with their rights./i]
Even worse - the argument I see lefty sites make is something along the lines of, "If you make the protestors angry you should accept your beating because they are morally in the right to protest X and it is more important then you going to walmart or whatever"
Even worse - the argument I see lefty sites make is something along the lines of, "If you make the protestors angry you should accept your beating because they are morally in the right to protest X and it is more important then you going to walmart or whatever"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:57 AM (t0Rmr)
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214 Not quite sure why Trump is protecting The Deep State, but it appears he is protecting The Deep State.
Makes no sense, but there it is.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (XV/Pl)
You're smarter than that (I've noticed your work over time).
Makes no sense, but there it is.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (XV/Pl)
You're smarter than that (I've noticed your work over time).
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 08:57 AM (WHfpM)
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Makes no sense, but there it is.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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I must have read 1 to 2 dozens theories by now. I would say it makes sense if any one of them is correct. Might as well spin the roulette wheel and choose one.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 08:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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I must have read 1 to 2 dozens theories by now. I would say it makes sense if any one of them is correct. Might as well spin the roulette wheel and choose one.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 08:57 AM (3447G)
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California can pass their own laws and then arrest and detain ICE members and put them in jail for violating the law.
Why they dont do that is beyond me.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2
Because they can't you idiot...
California can pass their own laws and then arrest and detain ICE members and put them in jail for violating the law.
Why they dont do that is beyond me.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 14, 2
Because they can't you idiot...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 08:57 AM (VE6XX)
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"Sex trafficking of minors, transportation of minors to for the purposes to engage in criminal activity and conspiracy to do the same."
To whom?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
"Speeding, reckless driving."
To where? Doesn't matter.
To whom?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
"Speeding, reckless driving."
To where? Doesn't matter.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 14, 2025 08:58 AM (poS9c)
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What about Americans? Can we protect ourselves by any means? My oath to the constitution says I MUST.
God as my witness I did not expect to see leftists arguing for an expansive right to self defense today. Would like to ask this guy about the "normie stuck in a leftist protest" situation.
God as my witness I did not expect to see leftists arguing for an expansive right to self defense today. Would like to ask this guy about the "normie stuck in a leftist protest" situation.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:58 AM (t0Rmr)
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. Of course we know they were casual pictures from parties etc. that many others were at but it's being used to "prove" Trump is hiding his past with Epstein . Hint, hint underage girls...
So the Democrats decided to go with the crazy gossip columnist, E Jean Carroll, who said that Trump molested her in a department store dressing room, in the previous millennia, so long ago that she forgot when and it traumatized her so much that she had to wait decades and her therapy was to keep it all public in memoirs, interviews and bull shit court cases.
Yeah, right.
So the Democrats decided to go with the crazy gossip columnist, E Jean Carroll, who said that Trump molested her in a department store dressing room, in the previous millennia, so long ago that she forgot when and it traumatized her so much that she had to wait decades and her therapy was to keep it all public in memoirs, interviews and bull shit court cases.
Yeah, right.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 08:59 AM (a4flb)
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JackStraw…. I happened to watch some grass court tennis (not Wimbledon) over the weekend from Newport, RI! Looks nice there (in the summer anyway)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 08:59 AM (6RwsA)
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"Democrats and their hardline leftist constituencies are disempowered, angry, and growing ever more frustrated. Now is no time for conservatives to split into rival camps.
A Strange, Unsettling Time"
Ever more frustrated because the Leftists currently have no hope Trump gets impeached and thrown-out, or tried and imprisoned.
Short of assassination, the Left sees nothing it can do to remove Trump from office. There is nothing in their hope jar to equal Russia, Russia, Russia! impeachment, quid pro quo impeachment, classified documents crimes, inciting rebellion on J6 crimes, conspiracy to subvert the 2020 election in Georgia, or all the imaginary charges against him in New York. He was convicted in both New York trials but came away free and solvent. No more "The Walls Are Closing In!' all day everyday in the Lapdog Media.
The Left's frustration will increase with time. The SS must be better than the best, all day every day.
A Strange, Unsettling Time"
Ever more frustrated because the Leftists currently have no hope Trump gets impeached and thrown-out, or tried and imprisoned.
Short of assassination, the Left sees nothing it can do to remove Trump from office. There is nothing in their hope jar to equal Russia, Russia, Russia! impeachment, quid pro quo impeachment, classified documents crimes, inciting rebellion on J6 crimes, conspiracy to subvert the 2020 election in Georgia, or all the imaginary charges against him in New York. He was convicted in both New York trials but came away free and solvent. No more "The Walls Are Closing In!' all day everyday in the Lapdog Media.
The Left's frustration will increase with time. The SS must be better than the best, all day every day.
Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 09:00 AM (aBgBM)
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>>You're smarter than that (I've noticed your work over time).
Again, there is no reason not to expose who and what Epstein was.
He's apparently fallen for the stock line from these dipshits that if Epstein is exposed then sources and methods would be revealed and people will die.
Again, you can't go from, "We'll expose it all, to "nothing to see here, now go away and STFU."
This is never going away and the more they try to make it go away the worse it will become.
>>You're smarter than that (I've noticed your work over time).
Again, there is no reason not to expose who and what Epstein was.
He's apparently fallen for the stock line from these dipshits that if Epstein is exposed then sources and methods would be revealed and people will die.
Again, you can't go from, "We'll expose it all, to "nothing to see here, now go away and STFU."
This is never going away and the more they try to make it go away the worse it will become.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 09:00 AM (XV/Pl)
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Mac and cheese is fit only for schoolchildren like Spaghetti-os. Never liked it, but if it's your thing, I just don't give Edam.
Posted by: Mayor McCheese at July 14, 2025 09:00 AM (G5+As)
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211 Good morning, 18-1
Related: If you're questioned by cops, now you have to say "I want my lawyer now and I invoke my right to remain silent." And you have to say that to each cop who enters the interrogation room after that.
Rule of lawyers, not of law
Related: If you're questioned by cops, now you have to say "I want my lawyer now and I invoke my right to remain silent." And you have to say that to each cop who enters the interrogation room after that.
Rule of lawyers, not of law
Posted by: callsign claymore at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (T+z9y)
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Paul A. Szypula
@Bubblebathgirl
Man in Vermont says socialism is the way to reduce crime.
Someone get this man a history book.
https://tinyurl.com/4586k2at
@Bubblebathgirl
Man in Vermont says socialism is the way to reduce crime.
Someone get this man a history book.
https://tinyurl.com/4586k2at
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (NpAcC)
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California can pass their own laws and then arrest and detain ICE members and put them in jail for violating the law.
Why they dont do that is beyond me.
Fedlaw is supreme. Go ahead. Try it.
Why they dont do that is beyond me.
Fedlaw is supreme. Go ahead. Try it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (+bLMA)
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128 108 So, what are you supposed to do as a driver when a group of rioters surround your car and threaten you?
Do a power brake burnout. Get the wheels spinning and smoking, then smile at the little assholes and ask them how many of their bones they think will break when you run over them.
Do a power brake burnout. Get the wheels spinning and smoking, then smile at the little assholes and ask them how many of their bones they think will break when you run over them.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (G+Jfs)
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Good morning!
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (TwZXH)
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When Epstein was arrested in Florida years ago the defense attorney represnting the girls going after Epstein said 1 person and 1 person only called him and offered to provide whatever help he could toward convicting Epstein. That person was Donald Trump.
I don't what's going on with Epstein stuff but one thing I am confident of is that Trump is not doing anything to protect Epstein or the deep state.
I don't what's going on with Epstein stuff but one thing I am confident of is that Trump is not doing anything to protect Epstein or the deep state.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (viF8m)
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California can pass their own laws and then arrest and detain ICE members and put them in jail for violating the law.
Hmm, this idea seems a little at odds with everything these people were saying under the Junta doesn't it?
I mean, honestly a system where the states could and did arrest federal agents for violating state laws would be interesting, but that notion was last debated in 1865 and the argument lost...
Hmm, this idea seems a little at odds with everything these people were saying under the Junta doesn't it?
I mean, honestly a system where the states could and did arrest federal agents for violating state laws would be interesting, but that notion was last debated in 1865 and the argument lost...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 09:01 AM (t0Rmr)
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Depends on the flood plain maps. We could never build on the river place because it was on the flood plain. And it did flood in a 100 year flood.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 14, 2025 09:02 AM (AcTAo)
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"So the Democrats decided to go with the crazy gossip columnist, E Jean Carroll, who said that Trump molested her in a department store dressing room,.."
They bought the testimony of this nutcase but completely ignored Tara Reade's charge of rape by Biden even when Reade had contemporaneous claims and facts. She eventually fled to Moscow after threats to her life (Tucker interviewed her from Moscow).
They bought the testimony of this nutcase but completely ignored Tara Reade's charge of rape by Biden even when Reade had contemporaneous claims and facts. She eventually fled to Moscow after threats to her life (Tucker interviewed her from Moscow).
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (WHfpM)
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In most cases the only people that could get asylum the legal way would be Canucks or Mexicans. And I believe we have close to zero "refugees" from those countries.
You can request it from anywhere. According to international rules, you're supposed to stop at the first safe country and request asylum but you can always ask.
You can request it from anywhere. According to international rules, you're supposed to stop at the first safe country and request asylum but you can always ask.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (ExV1e)
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If you make the protestors angry you should accept your beating because they are morally in the right to protest X
As I mentioned before, I have a cousin who would say things like that. When I brought up defending yourself? "Oh, so you hate freedom of speech."
When I brought up the utter destruction of innocent businesses during BLM's summer of love? "They have insurance."
And of course, he broke out the trite phrase "Riots are the voice of the unheard."
There is a reason I don't associate with my extended family very much.
As I mentioned before, I have a cousin who would say things like that. When I brought up defending yourself? "Oh, so you hate freedom of speech."
When I brought up the utter destruction of innocent businesses during BLM's summer of love? "They have insurance."
And of course, he broke out the trite phrase "Riots are the voice of the unheard."
There is a reason I don't associate with my extended family very much.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (lXoJ5)
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I got choked up watching the Butler clips on the one year anniversary yesterday. Trump’s fight fight fight fist pump is just…. EPIC
That moment was providential… the head turn miraculous
Can’t imagine where we’d be right now if the bullet kills him
That moment was providential… the head turn miraculous
Can’t imagine where we’d be right now if the bullet kills him
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (6RwsA)
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Some folks actually think the Kraft garbage is mac and cheese.
Posted by: Tonypete
The Cracker Barrel brand is excellent. Mixed with Hoppin' John and red pepper flakes it's wonderful.
Posted by: Tonypete
The Cracker Barrel brand is excellent. Mixed with Hoppin' John and red pepper flakes it's wonderful.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (poS9c)
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HEADLINE: United Nations AIDS agency warns millions will die by 2029 if US funding for HIV programs isn’t replaced
https://is.gd/1SYFH6
Typical BS from the UN and Doctors Without Borders with made-up scare statistics bemoaning the fact that the U.S. has withdrawn $4B of US taxpayer money from international programs that allow sub-Saharan sodomites to continue spreading HIV via the usual routes. Not really worth reading except maybe for this:
PULL QUOTE: funding disappeared "...in January, when U.S. President Donald Trump ordered that all foreign aid be suspended and later moved to shutter the U.S. AIDS agency."
U.S. AIDS agency? The link given in the article goes to an article about the defunding of USAID. Apparently the writer of this article thinks the US Agency for International Development (USAID) is fighting HIV.
Gave me a chuckle.
https://is.gd/1SYFH6
Typical BS from the UN and Doctors Without Borders with made-up scare statistics bemoaning the fact that the U.S. has withdrawn $4B of US taxpayer money from international programs that allow sub-Saharan sodomites to continue spreading HIV via the usual routes. Not really worth reading except maybe for this:
PULL QUOTE: funding disappeared "...in January, when U.S. President Donald Trump ordered that all foreign aid be suspended and later moved to shutter the U.S. AIDS agency."
U.S. AIDS agency? The link given in the article goes to an article about the defunding of USAID. Apparently the writer of this article thinks the US Agency for International Development (USAID) is fighting HIV.
Gave me a chuckle.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (poXs5)
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Good morning - happy Monday!
JJ, for a second I thought you got your holidays mixed up. No Leprechauns on Bastille Day!!
JJ, for a second I thought you got your holidays mixed up. No Leprechauns on Bastille Day!!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (GbwPZ)
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"Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?" Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Friday.
If only straight-shooting family man Joe Biden had released them.
If only straight-shooting family man Joe Biden had released them.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 09:04 AM (ExV1e)
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I like Mac and Cheese unless it gets all fancified by people, like with lobster or carrots.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 09:04 AM (tKZgo)
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Again, Trump has no personal exposure or threat from Epstein, as, if there was anything there, it would have been used long ago against him.
What's going on is the same sh*t anytime The Deep State is going to be exposed, they work their psyop bullshit and get everyone to knuckle under.
Listen, the only bigger Trump Stan than me is Jack Straw, but I have limits to what I will accept.
I will not accept covering up for the cabal of pedophiles that apparently run the world.
What's going on is the same sh*t anytime The Deep State is going to be exposed, they work their psyop bullshit and get everyone to knuckle under.
Listen, the only bigger Trump Stan than me is Jack Straw, but I have limits to what I will accept.
I will not accept covering up for the cabal of pedophiles that apparently run the world.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 09:04 AM (XV/Pl)
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U.S. AIDS agency?
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (poXs5)
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They cull them as the see them.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:03 AM (poXs5)
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They cull them as the see them.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 09:05 AM (3447G)
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HEADLINE: United Nations AIDS agency warns millions will die by 2029 if US funding for HIV programs isn’t replaced
There are two primary vectors for the spread of AIDS
In the west it is gay men having anonymous butt sex.
In Africa it is straight men using butt sex as a birth control method.
But the problem is having butt sex with a lot of different partners. And...everyone knows this by this point.
There are two primary vectors for the spread of AIDS
In the west it is gay men having anonymous butt sex.
In Africa it is straight men using butt sex as a birth control method.
But the problem is having butt sex with a lot of different partners. And...everyone knows this by this point.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 09:05 AM (t0Rmr)
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Looks like Trump cut a deal to keep the Epstein names secret.
Upon what are you basing this assertion?
Seems no matter what he is getting it is a bad deal.
Unless of course he plays this like the Dems play their deals. Get whatever the hell they are offering him - BBB, immigration restrictions, etc - then fire Blondi and put someone like Bongino in charge...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (t0Rmr)
Ah, same shit, different day.
Upon what are you basing this assertion?
Seems no matter what he is getting it is a bad deal.
Unless of course he plays this like the Dems play their deals. Get whatever the hell they are offering him - BBB, immigration restrictions, etc - then fire Blondi and put someone like Bongino in charge...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (t0Rmr)
Ah, same shit, different day.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 09:05 AM (ExV1e)
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HEADLINE: United Nations AIDS agency warns millions will die by 2029 if US funding for HIV programs isn’t replaced
Oh, what a shame.
Oh, what a shame.
Posted by: Made Up Scare Headline at July 14, 2025 09:06 AM (rfMRc)
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Upon what are you basing this assertion?
Trump seems to be favoring Blondi's "oopsie there are no Epstein files to release" argument instead of Bongino's.
Upon what are you basing this assertion?
Trump seems to be favoring Blondi's "oopsie there are no Epstein files to release" argument instead of Bongino's.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 09:06 AM (t0Rmr)
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Biblical accounts of apostasy since the beginning of time always end in cataclysmic failure. Civilizations' average lifespan is roughly 200 years.
Or maybe we need to murder another million infants.
Or maybe we need to murder another million infants.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 14, 2025 09:07 AM (P0m9n)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:07 AM (6iQ9H)
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Can't remember who said this about Rosie, O'Donnell, but it was: never trust someone who doesn't know how to smile.
Srsly, she is incapable of smiling - she does this sort of "O" thing with her mouth, the corners cannot curl up.
WEIRD
Srsly, she is incapable of smiling - she does this sort of "O" thing with her mouth, the corners cannot curl up.
WEIRD
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:07 AM (GbwPZ)
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>>U.S. AIDS agency? The link given in the article goes to an article about the defunding of USAID. Apparently the writer of this article thinks the US Agency for International Development (USAID) is fighting HIV.
>>Gave me a chuckle.
There was a time when USAID was heavily into funding AIDS drugs in Africa and the rest of the 3rd world. Hillary was sec of state and Fauci was deeply involved as well.
Then USAID gave hundreds of vials of viruses to a bio lab in Wuhan, China. And Fauci was involved. So was the Biden Crime Family.
The more things change.
>>Gave me a chuckle.
There was a time when USAID was heavily into funding AIDS drugs in Africa and the rest of the 3rd world. Hillary was sec of state and Fauci was deeply involved as well.
Then USAID gave hundreds of vials of viruses to a bio lab in Wuhan, China. And Fauci was involved. So was the Biden Crime Family.
The more things change.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:07 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (tKZgo)
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So what's the latest on Bongino?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (77rzZ)
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UN AIDS agency warms millions of AIDS suferers will die if $ are cut. Kind of a self serving statement, as if all the people with AIDS died the agency people would be out of jobs
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (Ry3Y5)
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One thing's for sure.. The Epstein saga isn't going away anytime soon....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (VE6XX)
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>>JackStraw…. I happened to watch some grass court tennis (not Wimbledon) over the weekend from Newport, RI! Looks nice there (in the summer anyway)
It's a beautiful place. Small venue so it doesn't get the big tournaments but every great player has been to play there.
The International Tennis Hall of Fame is part of the complex so all the great players come at least a couple times.
It's a beautiful place. Small venue so it doesn't get the big tournaments but every great player has been to play there.
The International Tennis Hall of Fame is part of the complex so all the great players come at least a couple times.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (viF8m)
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Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 14, 2025 09:00 AM (XV/Pl)
I would suggest that there is a lot more to it than exposing Epstein. I would suggest that Trump learned of the disruptive reverberations caused from the wholesale dumping of a trove of documents. I would suggest that he believes there is a longer game going on here and risks of wrecking it by playing to the moment. Of course, this implies a certain level of trust in Trump. I seem to have this trust.
I would suggest that there is a lot more to it than exposing Epstein. I would suggest that Trump learned of the disruptive reverberations caused from the wholesale dumping of a trove of documents. I would suggest that he believes there is a longer game going on here and risks of wrecking it by playing to the moment. Of course, this implies a certain level of trust in Trump. I seem to have this trust.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 09:10 AM (WHfpM)
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257 So what's the latest on Bongino?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (77rzZ)
Trump said he spoke with him and everything "seems" fine.....
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:09 AM (77rzZ)
Trump said he spoke with him and everything "seems" fine.....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 09:10 AM (VE6XX)
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Can't remember who said this about Rosie, O'Donnell, but it was: never trust someone who doesn't know how to smile.
What she needs is a few African Stunt Babies to cheer her up. Call me Rosie!
What she needs is a few African Stunt Babies to cheer her up. Call me Rosie!
Posted by: Amy Conehead Barrett, Stunt Baby Collector at July 14, 2025 09:10 AM (rfMRc)
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I like Mac and Cheese unless it gets all fancified by people, like with lobster or carrots.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Carrots in mac 'n' cheese? That's far, far worse than carrots in chili.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Carrots in mac 'n' cheese? That's far, far worse than carrots in chili.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:10 AM (77rzZ)
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"I will not accept covering up for the cabal of pedophiles that apparently run the world."
_________ ____________ ______
Cabal of pedos running the world or no, transparency demands that the public find out what was going on.
It's just not credible that the same FBI who can hunt down a random grandma in Iowa who was at the Capitol on January 6th has no idea who Epstein was pimping minors to.
Remember when the judge sealed Ghislaine Maxwell's black book?
_________ ____________ ______
Cabal of pedos running the world or no, transparency demands that the public find out what was going on.
It's just not credible that the same FBI who can hunt down a random grandma in Iowa who was at the Capitol on January 6th has no idea who Epstein was pimping minors to.
Remember when the judge sealed Ghislaine Maxwell's black book?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 09:10 AM (/exTw)
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Trump Says He’s Giving ‘Serious’ Thought To Stripping Rosie O’Donnell’s Citizenship
**********
Ewwww.
That should teach me to stoop reading before the end of a sentence.
**********
Ewwww.
That should teach me to stoop reading before the end of a sentence.
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:10 AM (poXs5)
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Here's a Devil's Advocate question: Say Trump fires Bondi. Who is the replacement? That can be confirmed by this feckless Senate "majority"? Hello, Bill Barr part 2!
Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at July 14, 2025 09:11 AM (BMHsU)
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The Epstein Files makes better media than anything on TV or at the movies right now.
For some it is red meat crossed with a laser pointer, distracting them from everything else that is happening.
For some it is red meat crossed with a laser pointer, distracting them from everything else that is happening.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:11 AM (6iQ9H)
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The simplest, Occam's Razor explanation for Epstein is that powerful people are being protected.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 09:12 AM (/exTw)
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Rosie will return when Exit to Eden II is ready to film. The only holding up production is creating black leather costumes to fit her.
Posted by: Hollywood Reporter at July 14, 2025 09:12 AM (G5+As)
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>>HEADLINE: United Nations AIDS agency warns millions will die by 2029 if US funding for HIV programs isn’t replaced
Here's a thought - how about countries with high HIV rates adopt Uganda's ABC program?
Instead of throwing millions upon millions on all sorts of stupid stuff, instead encourage people to have safe, responsible sex? Crazy, right? Don't use sand, don't have sex with anything that moves (try monogamy!), and so on.
Here's a thought - how about countries with high HIV rates adopt Uganda's ABC program?
Instead of throwing millions upon millions on all sorts of stupid stuff, instead encourage people to have safe, responsible sex? Crazy, right? Don't use sand, don't have sex with anything that moves (try monogamy!), and so on.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:12 AM (GbwPZ)
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Here's a Devil's Advocate question: Say Trump fires Bondi. Who is the replacement? That can be confirmed by this feckless Senate "majority"? Hello, Bill Barr part 2!
I am not a fan of Blondi, but I tend to agree she is probably the best he can do right now.
I would assume he could tell her to give control of the case to someone else....
I am not a fan of Blondi, but I tend to agree she is probably the best he can do right now.
I would assume he could tell her to give control of the case to someone else....
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 09:13 AM (t0Rmr)
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And it's National Shark Awareness Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (NpAcC)
Oh, we're quite aware, thank you. Right, Mr. Hooper?
*pours a bit out for Quint*
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 08:49 AM (NpAcC)
Oh, we're quite aware, thank you. Right, Mr. Hooper?
*pours a bit out for Quint*
Posted by: Chief Brody at July 14, 2025 09:13 AM (wVcYX)
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Cabal of pedos running the world or no, transparency demands that the public find out what was going on.
The people currently running around in hair-on-fire, spittle flecked rants will never accept that they've been told what's going on.
The people currently running around in hair-on-fire, spittle flecked rants will never accept that they've been told what's going on.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 09:13 AM (ExV1e)
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Epstein has been dead for years and yet Fauci is not in jail.
Posted by: Let's focus, people! at July 14, 2025 09:14 AM (XQo4F)
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If you make the protestors angry you should accept your beating because they are morally in the right to protest X
As I mentioned before, I have a cousin who would say things like that. When I brought up defending yourself? "Oh, so you hate freedom of speech."
Posted by: NR Pax
I would have beat his ass on the spot with a fireplace poker and told him I was simply protesting his ignorant assed view.
As I mentioned before, I have a cousin who would say things like that. When I brought up defending yourself? "Oh, so you hate freedom of speech."
Posted by: NR Pax
I would have beat his ass on the spot with a fireplace poker and told him I was simply protesting his ignorant assed view.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:15 AM (+bLMA)
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>> Rosie will return when Exit to Eden II is ready to film. The only holding up production is creating black leather costumes to fit her.
We complain about CBD posting the ottoman painting, but JJ tortures us regularly with that d@mn bondage pic and someone else's head.
We complain about CBD posting the ottoman painting, but JJ tortures us regularly with that d@mn bondage pic and someone else's head.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:15 AM (GbwPZ)
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272 Here's a Devil's Advocate question: Say Trump fires Bondi. Who is the replacement?
For now, for 120 days, Harmeet Dhillon.
For now, for 120 days, Harmeet Dhillon.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 09:15 AM (WHfpM)
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The Epstein Files makes better media than anything on TV or at the movies right now.
For some it is red meat crossed with a laser pointer, distracting them from everything else that is happening.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:11 AM (6iQ9H)
Get David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson (yum) to come out of retirement and make this a TV series!
For some it is red meat crossed with a laser pointer, distracting them from everything else that is happening.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:11 AM (6iQ9H)
Get David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson (yum) to come out of retirement and make this a TV series!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 14, 2025 09:16 AM (i5Vkf)
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> The FBI has quietly launched an investigation into a decade of Democratic party and deep-state antics from Russia collusion to Jack Smith, opening the door for the appointment of a special prosecutor to examine whether the well-documented episodes amount to a criminal conspiracy to meddle in three U.S. elections to the benefit of Democrats and the detriment of President Donald Trump, Just the News has learned.
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Had they stopped at "meddle in three elections" I think they'd have been better off. Mentioning Trump was a bad idea. Mentioning the public instead would have been a better play. But I understand why they are phrasing it as such.
The thing is, anything associated with Trump is polarizing.
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Had they stopped at "meddle in three elections" I think they'd have been better off. Mentioning Trump was a bad idea. Mentioning the public instead would have been a better play. But I understand why they are phrasing it as such.
The thing is, anything associated with Trump is polarizing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:16 AM (Q4IgG)
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>>And it's National Shark Awareness Day.
Day?
They get a whole week on the Discovery Channel, and their own camp movie series (OK, they have to share top billing with tornadoes),
Day?
They get a whole week on the Discovery Channel, and their own camp movie series (OK, they have to share top billing with tornadoes),
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (GbwPZ)
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I find myself in the camp of Rosie deserves this Presidential attention.
First she flounced off to Ireland to protest Trump. To me that is defacto renouncing of citizenship.
Second she continues to try and meddle with American politics.
So she is fair game, actions should have consequences.
BTW does Rosie still believe fire can't melt steel?
First she flounced off to Ireland to protest Trump. To me that is defacto renouncing of citizenship.
Second she continues to try and meddle with American politics.
So she is fair game, actions should have consequences.
BTW does Rosie still believe fire can't melt steel?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (6iQ9H)
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Who here will burn their Red Caps in a bonfire when Trump announced possible amnesty for 2 million migrants farm workers and hotel workers?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (MFI7Z)
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Cabal of pedos running the world or no, transparency demands that the public find out what was going on.
The people currently running around in hair-on-fire, spittle flecked rants will never accept that they've been told what's going on.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Sorry. I'll never accept that minor children were sex trafficked to no one.
The people currently running around in hair-on-fire, spittle flecked rants will never accept that they've been told what's going on.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Sorry. I'll never accept that minor children were sex trafficked to no one.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (+bLMA)
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rickb223, I love your elegant and simple solutions to so many problems.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (HFcKg)
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*268 The Epstein Files makes better media than anything on TV or at the movies right now.*
Not to mention we have a photogenic Attorney General who has set up a second office in the Fox News green room.
Not to mention we have a photogenic Attorney General who has set up a second office in the Fox News green room.
Posted by: Media suits everywhere at July 14, 2025 09:18 AM (XQo4F)
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David Gergen has died. 83.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:19 AM (77rzZ)
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240 I got choked up watching the Butler clips on the one year anniversary yesterday. Trump’s fight fight fight fist pump is just…. EPIC
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Structurally, it reads like the Iwo Jima Monument.
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Structurally, it reads like the Iwo Jima Monument.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:19 AM (W3T6M)
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We complain about CBD posting the ottoman painting, but JJ tortures us regularly with that d@mn bondage pic and someone else's head.
That movie also had Dana Delany at her best looking.
But it was a stupid, stupid movie made worse with O'Donnell and Akryod.
We complain about CBD posting the ottoman painting, but JJ tortures us regularly with that d@mn bondage pic and someone else's head.
That movie also had Dana Delany at her best looking.
But it was a stupid, stupid movie made worse with O'Donnell and Akryod.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 09:20 AM (t0Rmr)
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Was he The Forehead?
Posted by: I miss Rush at July 14, 2025 09:20 AM (XQo4F)
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Their violence is escalating.
And the threats of murder.
The videos out of the raid on the pot farm in CA were much worse than the media let on; they want to kill an ICE agent.
You may ask yourself, "why do they think that will work, killing someone."
Because it works against them.
The Rittenhouse Resolution.
And the threats of murder.
The videos out of the raid on the pot farm in CA were much worse than the media let on; they want to kill an ICE agent.
You may ask yourself, "why do they think that will work, killing someone."
Because it works against them.
The Rittenhouse Resolution.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 09:20 AM (JThEY)
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:20 AM (W3T6M)
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The Epstein stuff has to come out eventually. It's too big to keep it all covered up for ever.
Some Assange or Snowden is gonna put it all out there at some point.
Some Assange or Snowden is gonna put it all out there at some point.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)
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You may ask yourself, "why do they think that will work, killing someone."
The expectation is with death as a possible outcome Trump/ICE will step back.
And they are used to dealing with the GOPe for whom this sort of stuff works.
You may ask yourself, "why do they think that will work, killing someone."
The expectation is with death as a possible outcome Trump/ICE will step back.
And they are used to dealing with the GOPe for whom this sort of stuff works.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2025 09:22 AM (t0Rmr)
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I'll never accept that minor children were sex trafficked to no one.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (+bLMA)
Maxwell was convicted of trafficking minors to Epstein who, personally, abused them. Lots of other people claim to know things - but won't say anything about them. Lots of other people claim to have been abused - but won't say by whom.
Feel free to not accept. Maybe there's truth we haven't been told. Maybe, someday, it'll come out. I suspect not.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (+bLMA)
Maxwell was convicted of trafficking minors to Epstein who, personally, abused them. Lots of other people claim to know things - but won't say anything about them. Lots of other people claim to have been abused - but won't say by whom.
Feel free to not accept. Maybe there's truth we haven't been told. Maybe, someday, it'll come out. I suspect not.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 09:22 AM (ExV1e)
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MAHA’s Mental Illness Blind Spot
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Allow me to give my summary of this bilge"
"What we're doing isn't working, let's do more of it."
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Allow me to give my summary of this bilge"
"What we're doing isn't working, let's do more of it."
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:22 AM (poXs5)
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> Their violence is escalating.
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Someone should tally up the body count. I would bet good money it's staggering how many the left has killed in the US since 2000.
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Someone should tally up the body count. I would bet good money it's staggering how many the left has killed in the US since 2000.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (Q4IgG)
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The government statistics says there are about 1M people in the US who are farmhands "
Actual hands on the ground is now
The previous generation of farm owners wouldn't have believed that...
Actual hands on the ground is now
The previous generation of farm owners wouldn't have believed that...
Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (jWvud)
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287 David Gergen has died. 83.
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But that fantastic mound of hair will keep growing for up to a year!
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But that fantastic mound of hair will keep growing for up to a year!
Posted by: Marge, you're soaking in it. at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (P0m9n)
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I would have beat his ass on the spot with a fireplace poker and told him I was simply protesting his ignorant assed view.
Posted by: rickb223
And then I would have been in trouble for committing a hate crime against a gay man. Just can't win.
As for the NJ protesters getting run down: Every single time a driver is up on charges, the jury should be shown the film of Reginald Denny getting love and attention from the ferals.
Posted by: rickb223
And then I would have been in trouble for committing a hate crime against a gay man. Just can't win.
As for the NJ protesters getting run down: Every single time a driver is up on charges, the jury should be shown the film of Reginald Denny getting love and attention from the ferals.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (lXoJ5)
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rickb223, I love your elegant and simple solutions to so many problems.
Posted by: Ben Had
Sorry. 😁
Posted by: Ben Had
Sorry. 😁
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (+bLMA)
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287 David Gergen has died. 83.
Posted by: Bulg
Yet Eleanor Clift is still drawing breath at age 85.
Posted by: Bulg
Yet Eleanor Clift is still drawing breath at age 85.
Posted by: No Justice, No Peas! at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (G5+As)
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I think he was usually referred to as "David Rodham Gergen" because Hillary! or something.
Posted by: I miss Rush at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (XQo4F)
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You may ask yourself, "why do they think that will work, killing someone."
They also have an army of apologists and lawyers at their back.
"Mostly peaceful" "Turning their life around" "sparks of divinity."
They also have an army of apologists and lawyers at their back.
"Mostly peaceful" "Turning their life around" "sparks of divinity."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:24 AM (6iQ9H)
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281 and their own -- camp movie series -- DOCUMENTARIES FIFY
Posted by: callsign claymore at July 14, 2025 09:24 AM (T+z9y)
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Apparently John MacArthur has pneumonia and is not expected to recover.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 14, 2025 09:25 AM (H0FSy)
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Day?
They get a whole week on the Discovery Channel, and their own camp movie series (OK, they have to share top billing with tornadoes),
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (GbwPZ)
*******
This is just letting us know to be aware and afraid leading up to shark week which starts 7/20.
At least it's better than Pride month.
Although today is also International Non-binary People’s Day... so there's that.
They get a whole week on the Discovery Channel, and their own camp movie series (OK, they have to share top billing with tornadoes),
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:17 AM (GbwPZ)
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This is just letting us know to be aware and afraid leading up to shark week which starts 7/20.
At least it's better than Pride month.
Although today is also International Non-binary People’s Day... so there's that.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:25 AM (NpAcC)
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>>UNAIDS called the program a “lifeline” for countries with high HIV rates, and said that it supported testing for 84.1 million people, treatment for 20.6 million, among other initiatives. According to data from Nigeria, PEPFAR also funded 99.9% of the country’s budget for medicines taken to prevent HIV.
Translation: US must fund high risk s#x in sub-Saharan countries because the people aren't capable of curbing their own behavior.
And they call that help?
Translation: US must fund high risk s#x in sub-Saharan countries because the people aren't capable of curbing their own behavior.
And they call that help?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:27 AM (GbwPZ)
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Yet Eleanor Clift is still drawing breath at age 85.
Posted by: No Justice, No Peas! at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (G5+As)
Oh, where have you gone, Jack Germond, and Morton Kondake too?
Posted by: No Justice, No Peas! at July 14, 2025 09:23 AM (G5+As)
Oh, where have you gone, Jack Germond, and Morton Kondake too?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 09:27 AM (WHfpM)
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She's taking care to look for sharks
They hang out in the local bars
And they feed right after dark
Can't you feel them circling, honey? (Ooh-ooh)
Can't you feel them swimming around?
You got fins to the left, fins to the right
And you're the only bait in town
They hang out in the local bars
And they feed right after dark
Can't you feel them circling, honey? (Ooh-ooh)
Can't you feel them swimming around?
You got fins to the left, fins to the right
And you're the only bait in town
Posted by: Shark Week? at July 14, 2025 09:27 AM (XQo4F)
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If Pam Bondi had played the Epstein case a little more low-key she wouldn’t be taking as much heat as she is right now.
But she wanted to get on FOX and showboat about it and now her words have come back to haunt her.
She also jumped the gum early on and set the pattern with the screwed up release of already known information to Trump influencers online.
If she’d have kept mum until after she had reviewed everything then there wouldn’t be so much disappointment going around leading to anger and claims of a coverup.
I’m not saying she should be fired but I do hope she’s learned a valuable lesson here.
But she wanted to get on FOX and showboat about it and now her words have come back to haunt her.
She also jumped the gum early on and set the pattern with the screwed up release of already known information to Trump influencers online.
If she’d have kept mum until after she had reviewed everything then there wouldn’t be so much disappointment going around leading to anger and claims of a coverup.
I’m not saying she should be fired but I do hope she’s learned a valuable lesson here.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:28 AM (6ydKt)
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Yet Eleanor Clift is still drawing breath at age 85.
Posted by: No Justice, No Peas
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At least she doesn't have to worry about senility taking her mind away.
She's never had an intelligent thought in her life.
Posted by: No Justice, No Peas
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At least she doesn't have to worry about senility taking her mind away.
She's never had an intelligent thought in her life.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 14, 2025 09:28 AM (Lo97M)
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"It wasn't a live grenade, so case dismissed!" really?
So that is how people like Hassan Piker waving on stream what looks to be a real firearm and threatening to kill someone is not "wrong" because it was ONLY a toy pistol that Hassan removed the orange tip from.
I now want Hassan to wave that toy in front of some cops.
So that is how people like Hassan Piker waving on stream what looks to be a real firearm and threatening to kill someone is not "wrong" because it was ONLY a toy pistol that Hassan removed the orange tip from.
I now want Hassan to wave that toy in front of some cops.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:28 AM (6iQ9H)
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Windows says today is "World Chimpanzee Day"
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:29 AM (6iQ9H)
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Eleanor, I think you're swellanore!
Fun fact: Eleanor Clift was Montgomery Clift's sister-in-law.
Fun fact: Eleanor Clift was Montgomery Clift's sister-in-law.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Apparently John MacArthur has pneumonia and is not expected to recover.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 14, 2025 09:25 AM (H0FSy)
I saw that too. Rev has the complete set of his commentaries.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 14, 2025 09:25 AM (H0FSy)
I saw that too. Rev has the complete set of his commentaries.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 14, 2025 09:30 AM (SfhV1)
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Here's a Devil's Advocate question: Say Trump fires Bondi. Who is the replacement? That can be confirmed by this feckless Senate "majority"?
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The AG of Missouri seems kinda badass.
Also, Kurt Schlichter
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The AG of Missouri seems kinda badass.
Also, Kurt Schlichter
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 09:30 AM (/exTw)
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Toilet up!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (+bLMA)
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And you may ask yourself, "How do I work this?"
And you may ask yourself, "Where is that large automobile?"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house."
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful wife."
You may ask yourself, "What is that beautiful house?"
You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"
And you may ask yourself, "Am I right? Am I wrong?"
And you may say to yourself, "My God! What have I done?"
And you may ask yourself, "Where is that large automobile?"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house."
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful wife."
You may ask yourself, "What is that beautiful house?"
You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"
And you may ask yourself, "Am I right? Am I wrong?"
And you may say to yourself, "My God! What have I done?"
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (6ydKt)
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>>That movie also had Dana Delany at her best looking.
But we never get a photoshop using Delaney in (or out) of bondage gear -- just freakin' Rosie.
But we never get a photoshop using Delaney in (or out) of bondage gear -- just freakin' Rosie.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (GbwPZ)
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I’m not saying she should be fired but I do hope she’s learned a valuable lesson here.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:28 AM (6ydKt)
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She should come out and apologize and say the files we have are all that's left because the previous administration destroyed all the lists and video evidence.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:28 AM (6ydKt)
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She should come out and apologize and say the files we have are all that's left because the previous administration destroyed all the lists and video evidence.
Posted by: Megthered at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (GOJbT)
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Dana Delaney is still a 1.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (77rzZ)
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The AG of Missouri seems kinda badass.
Also, Kurt Schlichter
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We'll get right on that. We'll put it on the docket for, say mid-2026? We have a ton of judges to slow-walk first.
Also, Kurt Schlichter
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We'll get right on that. We'll put it on the docket for, say mid-2026? We have a ton of judges to slow-walk first.
Posted by: John Thune at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (BMHsU)
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After watching Trump's response to an Epstein question during his cabinet meeting I don't know why anyone would think he and Bondi aren't in sync on this issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (viF8m)
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324 After watching Trump's response to an Epstein question during his cabinet meeting I don't know why anyone would think he and Bondi aren't in sync on this issue.
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My read of Trump's priorities is Abraham Accords and Ukraine. Methinks the Saudis are fully aboard with both goals. See their advertised oil production increase for August for the tell.
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My read of Trump's priorities is Abraham Accords and Ukraine. Methinks the Saudis are fully aboard with both goals. See their advertised oil production increase for August for the tell.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (W3T6M)
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RE: The Epstein Files, go read AC from this morning -
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/
Posted by: Wolfie at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (Ac6kf)
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Uh-oh. The lady 62, appears to be White & might not be from one of New Jersey's posh neighborhoods where "greater good" is the mantra & and peace sign decals are on the 3rd or 4th of a family's vehicles.
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They're not moral, they hide behind Unitarianism - with just a teeny, tiny bit of social justice Quakerism - and the Greater Good. The morally right action is the one that produces the most good and minimizes harm for the greatest number of people - outcome - v. rightness or wrongness of the action.
To hell with individual rights & predictable consequences & more when power is a priority.
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From above, "Masks are another form of power."
Not only the Marshall Project claims anti-government rioters should be able to wear masks to protect their privacy against the police. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a non-profit of many years, is sophisticated & "involved."
A recent link: DeepLinks Blog, July 10, 2025 - No Face, No Case: California’s S.B. 627 Demands Cops Show Their Faces. California has introduced S.B. 627 to prohibit law enforcement from covering their faces during encounters with the public, in response to masked ICE agent actions.
Cont'd -
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They're not moral, they hide behind Unitarianism - with just a teeny, tiny bit of social justice Quakerism - and the Greater Good. The morally right action is the one that produces the most good and minimizes harm for the greatest number of people - outcome - v. rightness or wrongness of the action.
To hell with individual rights & predictable consequences & more when power is a priority.
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From above, "Masks are another form of power."
Not only the Marshall Project claims anti-government rioters should be able to wear masks to protect their privacy against the police. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a non-profit of many years, is sophisticated & "involved."
A recent link: DeepLinks Blog, July 10, 2025 - No Face, No Case: California’s S.B. 627 Demands Cops Show Their Faces. California has introduced S.B. 627 to prohibit law enforcement from covering their faces during encounters with the public, in response to masked ICE agent actions.
Cont'd -
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 10:24 AM (NFX2v)
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Another:
Deeplinks Blog, July 10, 2025, EFF Tells Virginia Court That Constitutional Privacy Protections Forbid Cops from Finding out Everyone Who Searched for a Keyword
Online queries can give insight into our private details and innermost thoughts, but police increasingly access them without adhering to longstanding limits on government investigative power.
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Why So Many Young Americans Fall for Socialism? They haven't learned to do actual, useful work. For the most part, they advocate and promote..stuff...especially Medicare & all it provides. They are the children of the ACA & civil society, often with the leisure of differing forms of therapy & self-care. Those seen as thwarting their self-fulfillment (power) are a problem that needs to be dealt with BAMN.
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CNN, Epstein fallout poses a loyalty test: Trump — or MAGA? By Betsy Klein, Published July 14, 2025
Does it? Was it that easy to create a rope-a-dope scenario for new feds?
Deeplinks Blog, July 10, 2025, EFF Tells Virginia Court That Constitutional Privacy Protections Forbid Cops from Finding out Everyone Who Searched for a Keyword
Online queries can give insight into our private details and innermost thoughts, but police increasingly access them without adhering to longstanding limits on government investigative power.
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Why So Many Young Americans Fall for Socialism? They haven't learned to do actual, useful work. For the most part, they advocate and promote..stuff...especially Medicare & all it provides. They are the children of the ACA & civil society, often with the leisure of differing forms of therapy & self-care. Those seen as thwarting their self-fulfillment (power) are a problem that needs to be dealt with BAMN.
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CNN, Epstein fallout poses a loyalty test: Trump — or MAGA? By Betsy Klein, Published July 14, 2025
Does it? Was it that easy to create a rope-a-dope scenario for new feds?
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 10:24 AM (NFX2v)
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Trump's Title IX crackdown puts schools on notice: no more men in women’s sports -- or risk losing federal funds, as UPenn learned with its $175 million wake-up call.
Title IX and Trans Athletes: Victories and Stand Offs as Trump Perseveres -- Bravo!
From the article:
No sooner was Biden’s bad Title IX regulation redefining “sex” to include gender identity blocked by federal courts than the absurdity of transsexual athletes took center stage: Trump addressed the issue back in February with his Executive Order, Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports, which states, “It shall … be the policy of the United States to oppose male competitive participation in women’s sports … as a matter of safety, fairness, dignity, and truth.”
This does not seem to be a long-term solution to the "gender identity" issue. Unless 2020 SCOTUS case Bostic v Clayton County is overturned, "gender identity" will continue to be a protected class under federal law, since a future President will just reverse President Trump's Executive Order.
Bostic vs Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
Title IX and Trans Athletes: Victories and Stand Offs as Trump Perseveres -- Bravo!
From the article:
No sooner was Biden’s bad Title IX regulation redefining “sex” to include gender identity blocked by federal courts than the absurdity of transsexual athletes took center stage: Trump addressed the issue back in February with his Executive Order, Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports, which states, “It shall … be the policy of the United States to oppose male competitive participation in women’s sports … as a matter of safety, fairness, dignity, and truth.”
This does not seem to be a long-term solution to the "gender identity" issue. Unless 2020 SCOTUS case Bostic v Clayton County is overturned, "gender identity" will continue to be a protected class under federal law, since a future President will just reverse President Trump's Executive Order.
Bostic vs Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 14, 2025 10:27 AM (P5BPp)
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Oh, where have you gone, Jack Germond, and Morton Kondake too?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 09:27 AM (WHfpM)
Jack died in 2013, Kondracke's 86 and pretty much retired.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 09:27 AM (WHfpM)
Jack died in 2013, Kondracke's 86 and pretty much retired.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 14, 2025 10:35 AM (/HDaX)
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And.. Good Morning, all, and thank you, J.J.
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Reportedly, Central Texas experienced more flash floods over the weekend. The flood death toll has risen to 132 and many continue to be missing.
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We've heard nothing of late of the many Hamas/Islamic Jihad hostages held from October 7, 2023.
Further, Instagram today:
worldjewishcongress
47m
Today marks 4,000 days since Hadar Goldin was taken.
In the final moments of a ceasefire during the 2014 Gaza war, Hadar was ambushed and abducted by Hamas. Since then, his body has been held in Gaza, used as a bargaining chip, denied the dignity of a proper burial, and kept from the family that has fought every day to bring him home.
It’s time to Bring Hadar home.
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For the lost, suffering, alone, in pain, please hear our prayers. 🙏🕯
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Reportedly, Central Texas experienced more flash floods over the weekend. The flood death toll has risen to 132 and many continue to be missing.
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We've heard nothing of late of the many Hamas/Islamic Jihad hostages held from October 7, 2023.
Further, Instagram today:
worldjewishcongress
47m
Today marks 4,000 days since Hadar Goldin was taken.
In the final moments of a ceasefire during the 2014 Gaza war, Hadar was ambushed and abducted by Hamas. Since then, his body has been held in Gaza, used as a bargaining chip, denied the dignity of a proper burial, and kept from the family that has fought every day to bring him home.
It’s time to Bring Hadar home.
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For the lost, suffering, alone, in pain, please hear our prayers. 🙏🕯
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (NFX2v)
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stalin sock off
Posted by: andycanuck at July 14, 2025 12:06 PM (2yoRf)
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my breakfast coming over again to read more news.
my breakfast coming over again to read more news.
Posted by: video mesum anak kecil at July 14, 2025 12:14 PM (ZOlf+)
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The Reginald Denny rule applies.
Posted by: Max Entropy at July 14, 2025 12:35 PM (oxDA9)
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Florida, which now spends $9,130 per student, consistently scores above the national average on 4th and 8th grade reading and math. New York, which spends $29,893 per student, ranks around 46th in 8th grade reading and below average in most other categories.
Money ≠ Education
About thirty years ago I read that a state (Arkansas ?) used an algorithm to determine how many prison beds the state would need in ten (?) years.
One of the elements of the algorithm were with grade math scores.
Money ≠ Education
About thirty years ago I read that a state (Arkansas ?) used an algorithm to determine how many prison beds the state would need in ten (?) years.
One of the elements of the algorithm were with grade math scores.
Posted by: waepnedmann at July 14, 2025 02:26 PM (XcDMH)
Daily News Stuff 14 July 2025
Top Story
- Intel is laying of - apparently has already laid off - another 4000 staff. (Tom's Hardware)
The cuts were supposed to mostly target middle managers, but an analysis found that just 8% of jobs cut had "manager" in the title, while technicians and engineers were heavily affected.
Tech News
- Testing the Beelink Mate Mini - a storage and I/O expansion unit for the current Mac Mini. (Serve the Home)
The Mac Mini doesn't have a standard M.2 slot and isn't directly upgradeable. The Mate Mini adds two M.2 slots and a high-speed Thunderbolt 5 connection.
Basically it works fine and delivers 3GBps on each of the M.2 slots, which is plenty fast enough for most things.
Also you can buy third-party storage upgrades for the current Mac Mini, but they require a second Mac to set up, because fuck you that's why.
- OpenAI was planning to acquire AI starting Windsurf for $3 billion on Friday. And then it wasn't. (Tech Crunch)
The CEO and top researchers have been hired by Google instead, which is also paying $2.4 billion to license the company's technology.
Nice work if you can get it.
Musical Interlude
Disclaimer: Poit.
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Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:30 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:34 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Rosasharn at July 14, 2025 04:36 AM (PzBTm)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 04:49 AM (3447G)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 04:50 AM (3447G)
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Up early, doctors appointment at 7:30...I bet I'm the first customer. Nothing else I guess happened over the weekend, not even any shot outs in the city.
Portland probably had their usual tear gas exposer, Antifa which is a bunch of rich kids just having fun. Trying to burn down Portland's government offices. I just wish ICE would just tear off their masks and see who they really are, but the city council protects them.
Portland probably had their usual tear gas exposer, Antifa which is a bunch of rich kids just having fun. Trying to burn down Portland's government offices. I just wish ICE would just tear off their masks and see who they really are, but the city council protects them.
Posted by: Colin at July 14, 2025 04:51 AM (wlQdF)
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4 BOING!
I beg your pardon(s):
https://tinyurl.com/3kfvtb72
People need to be hanged.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 04:49 AM (3447G)
Yashar says this was known.
Yashar Ali 🐘
@yashar
4h
They told reporters on background if I remember — but yes after some of the pardons were slammed (and they should have been), some reporters were sharing what happened in terms of general parameters being set.
Not good — but we did find out about it then.
I beg your pardon(s):
https://tinyurl.com/3kfvtb72
People need to be hanged.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 04:49 AM (3447G)
Yashar says this was known.
Yashar Ali 🐘
@yashar
4h
They told reporters on background if I remember — but yes after some of the pardons were slammed (and they should have been), some reporters were sharing what happened in terms of general parameters being set.
Not good — but we did find out about it then.
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:52 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 14, 2025 04:52 AM (gHSfI)
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5 Roomy in here!
Posted by: Rosasharn at July 14, 2025 04:36 AM (PzBTm)
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/twirls and trips over m
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 04:50 AM (3447G)
Ouch. You need to leave the twirling to the professional.
Posted by: Rosasharn at July 14, 2025 04:36 AM (PzBTm)
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/twirls and trips over m
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 04:50 AM (3447G)
Ouch. You need to leave the twirling to the professional.
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:53 AM (aURVT)
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Between church preparations, church. and a Republican picnic yesterday afternoon it was a very long day. It was good to be with a large group of others who support Trump and MAGA. The R candidate for Governor was not there, but some man was who is trying to get out the R vote for a traditionally D country reported that they have flipped a number of people from D to R registration and that they have registered 3000 people as new R voters so far . This is a heavily Latino area. They do not like what Democrats are peddling. So some good news so far!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 04:56 AM (2GCMq)
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Not good — but we did find out about it then.
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:52 AM (aURVT)
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We knew then who was pardoned. This is further confirmation of the "autopen" and hence the pardons should be worthless and people need to be cuffed and tried.
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:52 AM (aURVT)
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We knew then who was pardoned. This is further confirmation of the "autopen" and hence the pardons should be worthless and people need to be cuffed and tried.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 05:02 AM (3447G)
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Christian Man who plays golf reflects on "Praying first, not about his golf game 😉 but about asking guidance from God first . Scripture is 1st John 5:13-15:
https://tinyurl.com/m594mde7
https://tinyurl.com/m594mde7
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:07 AM (2GCMq)
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Dog helps a man with seizures at a dog adoption event and finds a forever home. Faithpot site:
https://tinyurl.com/4xr9yhzw
https://tinyurl.com/4xr9yhzw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:11 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:20 AM (2GCMq)
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Intel is toast
Posted by: Accomack at July 14, 2025 05:34 AM (RBD82)
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Mornin'
Speaking of golf, I have a tee time for 0730. The golf course is close by. Less than 10 minutes.
Speaking of golf, I have a tee time for 0730. The golf course is close by. Less than 10 minutes.
Posted by: Puddleglum, golfin' in Amish Country at July 14, 2025 05:36 AM (uGaBv)
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We knew then who was pardoned. This is further confirmation of the "autopen" and hence the pardons should be worthless and people need to be cuffed and tried
Correct. The entire federal apparatus was on autopilot. But I need a notary public for basic transactions.
Correct. The entire federal apparatus was on autopilot. But I need a notary public for basic transactions.
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 14, 2025 05:44 AM (ujkbA)
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Good morning, good people, from the now tropical Adirondacks, where the vegetation is lush.
As per normal, may your efforts be rewarded with extreme benefit with concurrent heartburn for the leftwit fungi plaguing us.
As per normal, may your efforts be rewarded with extreme benefit with concurrent heartburn for the leftwit fungi plaguing us.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 14, 2025 05:46 AM (hKoQL)
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I like the song, "Only the lonely" but the picture up top is so creepy, IMO, with too much eye makeup that I prefer not to click on it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:46 AM (2GCMq)
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Another space alien face -- what's the attraction?
Another space alien face -- what's the attraction?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 05:47 AM (xG4kz)
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I slept in the chair again.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: don't sleep in the chair at July 14, 2025 05:48 AM (AOsQT)
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Evening to you late toilers, morning to you early risers! 'Tis Monday, yes, but remember:
"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"
I'm up, showered, and dressed comfortably for Wolfus's Big Surgery Adventure today. Linda's church friend will be here about six to drive us; we'll be at the shop for six-thirty. And then? We will see.
Thanks to all for the good wishes and prayers last night. I am . . . fortified. I'd be even more fortified if I could have some coffee. I poured some into a cup and will keep it in the fridge if I'm up to it later today; I do not want caffeine withdrawal headache on top of all this!
So, whassup?
"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"
I'm up, showered, and dressed comfortably for Wolfus's Big Surgery Adventure today. Linda's church friend will be here about six to drive us; we'll be at the shop for six-thirty. And then? We will see.
Thanks to all for the good wishes and prayers last night. I am . . . fortified. I'd be even more fortified if I could have some coffee. I poured some into a cup and will keep it in the fridge if I'm up to it later today; I do not want caffeine withdrawal headache on top of all this!
So, whassup?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:49 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:50 AM (vd6bO)
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Disclaimer: Poit.
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French?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025
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'Net says Scottish Gaelic for "pot" (container).
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French?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025
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'Net says Scottish Gaelic for "pot" (container).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:51 AM (omVj0)
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'Narf' is a favorite in my household...Pinky and the Brain was popular here.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:52 AM (vd6bO)
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Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.
Posted by: olddog in mo at July 14, 2025 05:53 AM (Rrx0z)
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Daughter number three was practicing cello last night. Fell asleep to Bach.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:55 AM (vd6bO)
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I slept in the chair again.
Posted by: Don Black
It is when you start thinking about selling the bedroom furniture because it hasn't been used in months is when you should get concerned. Putting sheets on the couch is another sign.
Posted by: Don Black
It is when you start thinking about selling the bedroom furniture because it hasn't been used in months is when you should get concerned. Putting sheets on the couch is another sign.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 14, 2025 05:55 AM (NXz8h)
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'Narf' is a favorite in my household...Pinky and the Brain was popular here.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025
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On a show a while back, Svengoolie interviewed the two voice actors. They actually look something like the roles they played! Maurice LaMarche, "Brain," is burly and heavy-set, while Rob Paulsen, "Pinky," is lean and lanky. Maurice is taller than Rob, though, unlike their characters.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025
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On a show a while back, Svengoolie interviewed the two voice actors. They actually look something like the roles they played! Maurice LaMarche, "Brain," is burly and heavy-set, while Rob Paulsen, "Pinky," is lean and lanky. Maurice is taller than Rob, though, unlike their characters.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:56 AM (omVj0)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:49 AM (omVj0
Will be praying for you and your procedure today!
What's up with me? have a day off today and hope to go look at the ocean and take a walk on the boardwalk.
Will be praying for you and your procedure today!
What's up with me? have a day off today and hope to go look at the ocean and take a walk on the boardwalk.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:56 AM (2GCMq)
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Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 05:55 AM (vd6bO)
That's great! I llove Bach and cello. My son played it in middle school and high school. I wish he had kept up with it.
That's great! I llove Bach and cello. My son played it in middle school and high school. I wish he had kept up with it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 05:58 AM (2GCMq)
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"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering."
"I think so, Brain. But who would want to watch Snow White and The Seven Samurai?
"I think so, Brain. But who would want to watch Snow White and The Seven Samurai?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 05:58 AM (svLOV)
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The Brain (narrating a schoolchildren's film he's making about why he should rule the world): "This is the Earth. And this is Pinky. You can tell the difference quite easily. One is a lump of inert matter hurtling blindly through the void. The other . . . is the Earth."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 05:58 AM (omVj0)
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Drove back north yesterday and then went to Cub Scout fishing event. gDaughter said it was so hot (it was, and humid) that she was going to die. I told her that in six months' time, she'd insist that it was so cold that she was going to die. I asked her how it felt to be eight years old and got "No different than being seven" for a response. Meanwhile, my son and gSon braved the heat and sun to small avail on the fishing front.
Drove back north yesterday and then went to Cub Scout fishing event. gDaughter said it was so hot (it was, and humid) that she was going to die. I told her that in six months' time, she'd insist that it was so cold that she was going to die. I asked her how it felt to be eight years old and got "No different than being seven" for a response. Meanwhile, my son and gSon braved the heat and sun to small avail on the fishing front.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 05:59 AM (xG4kz)
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Wolfus, good luck today. Don't worry about us; we can keep things going.
Sound of explosion in the background.
That's perfectly normal. Happens every so often.
Sound of explosion in the background.
That's perfectly normal. Happens every so often.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:00 AM (svLOV)
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I am convinced that the "Are you pondering what I'm pondering" jokes were basically the two voice actors throwing those out and then added to the script later.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:02 AM (svLOV)
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They told me not to wear any jewelry, which I suppose includes a watch (the only jewelry I wear). Strange to glance at my wrist, see nothing, and have to look at the computer time readout.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:03 AM (omVj0)
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Prayers up, Wolfus. I forgotten today wa your surgery
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 14, 2025 06:04 AM (ujkbA)
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That's great! I love Bach and cello. My son played it in middle school and high school. I wish he had kept up with it.
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https://tinyurl.com/BachCelloFav
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https://tinyurl.com/BachCelloFav
Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 14, 2025 06:05 AM (vd6bO)
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I am convinced that the "Are you pondering what I'm pondering" jokes were basically the two voice actors throwing those out and then added to the script later.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025
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In their Svengoolie interview, they seemed to have a natural chemistry and to play off each other very easily. I wouldn't be surprised if they improvised a *lot* of stuff. Or it might have been in a actual line of an early script, and the routine struck fire with them.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025
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In their Svengoolie interview, they seemed to have a natural chemistry and to play off each other very easily. I wouldn't be surprised if they improvised a *lot* of stuff. Or it might have been in a actual line of an early script, and the routine struck fire with them.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:06 AM (omVj0)
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"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering."
"I think so, Brain. But who would want to watch Snow White and The Seven Samurai?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 05:58 AM (svLOV)
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That actually sounds pretty cool.
"I think so, Brain. But who would want to watch Snow White and The Seven Samurai?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 05:58 AM (svLOV)
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That actually sounds pretty cool.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 06:06 AM (IBQGV)
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"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so, Brain, but if we get Sam Spade, we'll never have any puppies."
"I think so, Brain, but if we get Sam Spade, we'll never have any puppies."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:08 AM (omVj0)
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34 - Good for you and your son. My son enjoyed Cub Scout and my husband still remembers a 5 mile trek they took up a mountain ( Well, it wouldn't be a mountain in the Western states but it's a mountain in NJ ) that went straight up . FenSpouse is glad it was 20 years ago and not today, because he was an older dad and probably couldn't do it today.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:08 AM (2GCMq)
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Nurse, if you're here, I saw something on the ONT about your power bill for the last *two* months being $68.00. Hydro power, you said? Astonishing.
What happens when you have a heat wave, though? Do you have a window air conditioner?
What happens when you have a heat wave, though? Do you have a window air conditioner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:10 AM (omVj0)
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That actually sounds pretty cool.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Absolutely. I'd watch it as long as they had a decent actress for Snow White. Since Snow White is public domain, we may have a chance.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Absolutely. I'd watch it as long as they had a decent actress for Snow White. Since Snow White is public domain, we may have a chance.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:10 AM (svLOV)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 14, 2025 06:14 AM (XZ5S6)
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On YouTube, there's a hilarious recording of Maurice LaMarche doing a G-rated version of Orson Welles's infamous "Frozen Peas" tape.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 14, 2025 06:16 AM (XZ5S6)
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Was it yesterday or today that is the first anniversary of Trump almost being shot/being spared by God? I know that happened on a Saturday. We were on the Pet Thread when the news broke, and Ace threw up an emergency post. So one year later (and not a leap year) would make it Sunday.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:17 AM (omVj0)
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Nurse, if you're here, I saw something on the ONT about your power bill for the last *two* months being $68.00. Hydro power, you said? Astonishing.
What happens when you have a heat wave, though? Do you have a window air conditioner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
You can get by just fine without air conditioning even in a heatwave. The effects of Puget Sound tend to cool things off in the evening. In all the years I lived in the Seattle area I never had air conditioning. Probably would today but it would be a luxury.
By comparison here in Las Cruces during the months when I'm not running AC my power bill runs me about $40.00 per month. During the AC months it costs about $95 per month on average for a 1,500 square foot home.
What happens when you have a heat wave, though? Do you have a window air conditioner?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
You can get by just fine without air conditioning even in a heatwave. The effects of Puget Sound tend to cool things off in the evening. In all the years I lived in the Seattle area I never had air conditioning. Probably would today but it would be a luxury.
By comparison here in Las Cruces during the months when I'm not running AC my power bill runs me about $40.00 per month. During the AC months it costs about $95 per month on average for a 1,500 square foot home.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 14, 2025 06:18 AM (NXz8h)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:17 AM (omVj0
It was a year ago yesterday on a Saturday There are some videos on it on the internet and some comments by Trump on various social media things which he does.
It was a year ago yesterday on a Saturday There are some videos on it on the internet and some comments by Trump on various social media things which he does.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:19 AM (2GCMq)
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As a kid I always noticed that Christmas came a day later each year, two on leap years. I put it down to "They start counting the next day," I suppose. Many years later I read the actual reason: 365 days is 52 weeks plus one day. Duh!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:19 AM (omVj0)
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I am in the habit of trying to not respond to idiocy online or if I do, keep it tactful. Broke that rule last night when someone on FB was claiming that Trump wasn't really shot and that the injury was from the Secret Service agent dragging him down.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:21 AM (svLOV)
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Trump's remarks on Butler assassination attempt one year later. From Fox News:
https://tinyurl.com/3fk446pw
https://tinyurl.com/3fk446pw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:22 AM (2GCMq)
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Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:21 AM (svLOV
I would have a hard time not responding to that idiocy as well.
I would have a hard time not responding to that idiocy as well.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:26 AM (2GCMq)
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I would have a hard time not responding to that idiocy as well.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I have a part of my personality I like to call Mr. Tactful. As his name indicates, it's his job to stand over me like a sentinel and quietly point out that perhaps I should avoid saying certain things.
Once in a while, he shrugs and says "I'm off duty. Go for it and make it enertaining."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I have a part of my personality I like to call Mr. Tactful. As his name indicates, it's his job to stand over me like a sentinel and quietly point out that perhaps I should avoid saying certain things.
Once in a while, he shrugs and says "I'm off duty. Go for it and make it enertaining."
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:30 AM (svLOV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 06:34 AM (2GCMq)
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Trump and Butler Pa encapsulate the definition of our population as "extraordinary". You get these types as representative of people who are governed by a political system as unique as ours.
Trump and Butler Pa encapsulate the definition of our population as "extraordinary". You get these types as representative of people who are governed by a political system as unique as ours.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 14, 2025 06:40 AM (hKoQL)
58
Well, unless disaster strikes, I have officially made the last payment for my youngest's college experience.
They should be getting a post-graduation offer in a week or so from the place they're interning.
79 calendar days until I inform my manager that I'm retiring. 151 calendar days until my chosen last day. 27 days of PTO to get in before then.
Life is not bad.
They should be getting a post-graduation offer in a week or so from the place they're interning.
79 calendar days until I inform my manager that I'm retiring. 151 calendar days until my chosen last day. 27 days of PTO to get in before then.
Life is not bad.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 06:44 AM (ExV1e)
59
Disclaimer: Poit.
French?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:34 AM (aURVT)
Don Martin cartoon sound effect.
French?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:34 AM (aURVT)
Don Martin cartoon sound effect.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 06:44 AM (0eaVi)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (0eaVi)
61
Well, unless disaster strikes, I have officially made the last payment for my youngest's college experience.
Congratulations! And them having a possible job offer already is even better news.
Congratulations! And them having a possible job offer already is even better news.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (svLOV)
62
I used to have a different nic, can't wait to give you a congratulatory hug in person.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (HFcKg)
63
I just checked. Youtube has a trailer for a 2014 movie called Snow White and the Seven Samurai.
I watched it, but there was no mention of any white mice.
I watched it, but there was no mention of any white mice.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 14, 2025 06:49 AM (gHSfI)
64
Cernovich@Cernovich
Trump’s persuasive power over his base, especially during his first term, was almost magical. Calling out obvious mistakes he made would get you an ass chewing. “Trust the plan!” The reaction on Epstein should thus be startling to him. No one is buying it. No one is dropping it.
Trump’s persuasive power over his base, especially during his first term, was almost magical. Calling out obvious mistakes he made would get you an ass chewing. “Trust the plan!” The reaction on Epstein should thus be startling to him. No one is buying it. No one is dropping it.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 06:50 AM (TGPs7)
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I used to have a different nic, can't wait to give you a congratulatory hug in person.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (HFcKg)
At the 10th TXMoMe? I look forward to it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (HFcKg)
At the 10th TXMoMe? I look forward to it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 06:51 AM (ExV1e)
66
"Make it entertaining." lol
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I figure if I'm going to be scathing, I should be able to make the spectators appreciate my use of language.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I figure if I'm going to be scathing, I should be able to make the spectators appreciate my use of language.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:51 AM (svLOV)
67
My best wishes to all the horde for the week ahead.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 06:51 AM (emnEd)
68
I used to have a different nic, at the MoMe !
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:53 AM (HFcKg)
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And them having a possible job offer already is even better news.
The company has verified that they're graduating in December three times and their supervisor said, "I'm not saying you're getting an offer but... if you were, what would you like your start date to be."
The company has verified that they're graduating in December three times and their supervisor said, "I'm not saying you're getting an offer but... if you were, what would you like your start date to be."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 14, 2025 06:53 AM (ExV1e)
70
With my dying mom. Yesterday about 20 minutes after I asked for Horde prayers for her seizures, they stopped and she's been peaceful since then. She has already held on longer than I expected. We've told her it's okay to go Home. Her name is Glenda if you are led to pray for her. Thanks and love
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 14, 2025 06:54 AM (sguhi)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 14, 2025 06:55 AM (O7YUW)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:55 AM (omVj0)
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I just checked. Youtube has a trailer for a 2014 movie called Snow White and the Seven Samurai.
The trailer indicates that this is a Bad Movie Night film. I approve.
The trailer indicates that this is a Bad Movie Night film. I approve.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 06:56 AM (svLOV)
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My best wishes to all the horde for the week ahead.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 06:51 AM (emnEd)
___________
I'm going to need it. This is Death Week, the week of the Houston dog shows. They start Wednesday but we have organizing and loading today and set-up and dog bathing tomorrow.
My best wishes to all the horde for the week ahead.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 06:51 AM (emnEd)
___________
I'm going to need it. This is Death Week, the week of the Houston dog shows. They start Wednesday but we have organizing and loading today and set-up and dog bathing tomorrow.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 06:56 AM (HZi96)
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screaming in digital, prayers ascending for you, your Mom and your family.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 06:56 AM (HFcKg)
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"Hadron Collider," "hadrosaurs" -- I keep thinking the former is some sooper-sekrit physics project to bring back dinosaurs.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 14, 2025 06:56 AM (omVj0)
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Big hugs to you Ben Had
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 14, 2025 06:57 AM (sguhi)
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" but an analysis found that just 8% of jobs cut had "manager" in the title, while technicians and engineers were heavily affected."
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 14, 2025 06:58 AM (Hw6WF)
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SiD, I will remember Glenda in my Rosary intentions today. Hoping for a peaceful passage.
SiD, I will remember Glenda in my Rosary intentions today. Hoping for a peaceful passage.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 06:58 AM (HZi96)
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Such a beautiful old-timey video. Thank you, Pixy.
We lied about each other's drinks
We lived without each other thinking
What anyone would do
Without me and you
We lied about each other's drinks
We lived without each other thinking
What anyone would do
Without me and you
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 06:58 AM (aURVT)
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Same as it ever was.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 14, 2025 06:58 AM (Hw6WF)
___________
"They're smart, they'll find new jobs quickly." - The Managers
Same as it ever was.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 14, 2025 06:58 AM (Hw6WF)
___________
"They're smart, they'll find new jobs quickly." - The Managers
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 06:59 AM (HZi96)
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59 Disclaimer: Poit.
French?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:34 AM (aURVT)
Don Martin cartoon sound effect.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 06:44 AM (0eaVi)
60 See:
https://tinyurl.com/5n98uukj
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (0eaVi)
Ha!
French?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:34 AM (aURVT)
Don Martin cartoon sound effect.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 06:44 AM (0eaVi)
60 See:
https://tinyurl.com/5n98uukj
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 06:47 AM (0eaVi)
Ha!
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 07:01 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 14, 2025 07:01 AM (5hfjS)
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Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 14, 2025 07:01 AM (XQo4F)
85
The cuts were supposed to mostly target middle managers, but an analysis found that just 8% of jobs cut had "manager" in the title, while technicians and engineers were heavily affected.
Sounds like a combination of automation and outsourcing.
Intel is also laying off ROC technicians, who remotely monitor and control fab tools, manage workflows, and detect issues. Their roles are being automated as part of a global move to cut manual oversight in chip production. It is reasonable to assume that something similar is happening in the U.S.
Interestingly, Intel is implementing a new approach to workforce reductions, allowing individual departments to decide how to meet financial goals rather than announcing large, centralized cuts. This decentralized process has led to ongoing job losses across the company, with marketing functions being outsourced to Accenture and the automotive division completely shut down.
Sounds like a combination of automation and outsourcing.
Intel is also laying off ROC technicians, who remotely monitor and control fab tools, manage workflows, and detect issues. Their roles are being automated as part of a global move to cut manual oversight in chip production. It is reasonable to assume that something similar is happening in the U.S.
Interestingly, Intel is implementing a new approach to workforce reductions, allowing individual departments to decide how to meet financial goals rather than announcing large, centralized cuts. This decentralized process has led to ongoing job losses across the company, with marketing functions being outsourced to Accenture and the automotive division completely shut down.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 14, 2025 07:03 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 14, 2025 07:03 AM (sguhi)
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The Motels ≠ Roy Orbison
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 07:04 AM (aURVT)
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What is it with cast-iron pans that they have to be treated so delicately? No soap! No scrubbing! Throw it out if water touches it! We've had one for a billion years and soap and scrub and it works just fine.
What is it with cast-iron pans that they have to be treated so delicately? No soap! No scrubbing! Throw it out if water touches it! We've had one for a billion years and soap and scrub and it works just fine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 07:09 AM (HZi96)
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The Motels ≠ Roy Orbison
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 07:04 AM (aURVT)
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So you're saying there room for improvement?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 07:04 AM (aURVT)
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So you're saying there room for improvement?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 07:09 AM (3447G)
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"If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things - praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts - not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds." - C. S. Lewis
"If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things - praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts - not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds." - C. S. Lewis
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 07:12 AM (HZi96)
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“ Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.”
Proverbs 3:5-6
Proverbs 3:5-6
Posted by: Marcus T at July 14, 2025 07:12 AM (9tFkp)
92
Biden's Dog, sovereignty over Judea and Samaria coming?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:15 AM (HFcKg)
93
Rolls Big Ball Of Poop Across The Dry Sand...Rolls Big Ball Of Poop Across The Dry Sand...Looks Up...Rolls Big Ball Of Poop Across The Dry Sand...
Posted by: African Dung Beetle at July 14, 2025 07:17 AM (rfMRc)
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mornin yall. There's a Heat Watch in effect here today. Heat so hot you can watch it.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:17 AM (vFG9F)
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Screaming in Digital, Prayers are sent for your Mother, you, and others who love her.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at July 14, 2025 07:19 AM (yTvNw)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:19 AM (u82oZ)
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Screaming in Digital, adding my prayers as well.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 07:19 AM (svLOV)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:21 AM (u82oZ)
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At Intel, every salaried employee is a “manager”
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 07:23 AM (xQYJA)
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{{{Ben Had}}}
🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good morning! ♬♬ ♩ ♪
Oats for horses are being harvested at my friends farm. They left Manhattan for the rural life. Yes, she is busty, but a red head. Does not say hotcakes with a Hungarian accent. *Sigh*
Wheat harvest in Kansas mostly in. An average year.
🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good morning! ♬♬ ♩ ♪
Oats for horses are being harvested at my friends farm. They left Manhattan for the rural life. Yes, she is busty, but a red head. Does not say hotcakes with a Hungarian accent. *Sigh*
Wheat harvest in Kansas mostly in. An average year.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:24 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:25 AM (u82oZ)
102
Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 14, 2025 07:01 AM (XQo4F)
Winter: frozen
Summer: in use
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 14, 2025 07:01 AM (XQo4F)
Winter: frozen
Summer: in use
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:25 AM (0eaVi)
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We have some baby Cooper's Hawks that are very appreciative of the bird bath right now.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 14, 2025 07:26 AM (svLOV)
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NaCly, dearest. It is raining again here. Next hay cutting may not be until September.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:26 AM (HFcKg)
105
Biden's Dog, sovereignty over Judea and Samaria coming?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:15 AM (HFcKg)
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Not today or tomorrow. Major changes in government or events required. Everything else is bluster.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:15 AM (HFcKg)
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Not today or tomorrow. Major changes in government or events required. Everything else is bluster.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 07:27 AM (3447G)
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Hillary Clinton
How does it feel to have helped cause the death of the EU by opening up migration routes through Libya? A Deep State job, well done?
How does it feel to have helped cause the death of the EU by opening up migration routes through Libya? A Deep State job, well done?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 14, 2025 07:29 AM (oyXgq)
108
Just saw a lovely blue bird, an unexpected bonus for my main task of staring out the window at my parents place and wondering why dementia strikes undeserving souls.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 07:29 AM (jyzkC)
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How does it feel to have helped cause the death of the EU by opening up migration routes through Libya? A Deep State job, well done?
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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What difference, at this point, does it make?!/1/1!?
*hic*
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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What difference, at this point, does it make?!/1/1!?
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 14, 2025 07:30 AM (5hfjS)
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"Don Martin cartoon sound effect."
Oot greet!
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 14, 2025 07:29 AM (oyXgq)
That's right! It is National Gorilla Suit Day!
Oot greet!
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 14, 2025 07:29 AM (oyXgq)
That's right! It is National Gorilla Suit Day!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:30 AM (0eaVi)
111
NaCly, you cannot leave Mutti Merkel out of that equation.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 07:31 AM (HFcKg)
112
Hillary Clinton
In a just world, your actions would be a cautionary tale, and a disqualification for holding power.
In a just world, your actions would be a cautionary tale, and a disqualification for holding power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:31 AM (u82oZ)
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FBI opens 'grand conspiracy' probe on weaponization, opening door to special prosecutor
Posted by: SMOD at July 14, 2025 07:32 AM (xQYJA)
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Ben Had
And Turkey. But I'm just busting on Hillary.
I find it sad that Germany has continued Merkel's policies, even though they have been proven disastrous.
Many Germans decamped to Hungary because of her.
And Turkey. But I'm just busting on Hillary.
I find it sad that Germany has continued Merkel's policies, even though they have been proven disastrous.
Many Germans decamped to Hungary because of her.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:33 AM (u82oZ)
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Hillary Clinton
In a just world, your actions would be a cautionary tale, and a disqualification for holding power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:31 AM (u82oZ)
Are you talking about H, or Chelsea? She's the one who posted how the Clinton Global Grift, I mean, Initiative is on the ground in TX. Some wag told her, "just like Haiti."
In a just world, your actions would be a cautionary tale, and a disqualification for holding power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 14, 2025 07:31 AM (u82oZ)
Are you talking about H, or Chelsea? She's the one who posted how the Clinton Global Grift, I mean, Initiative is on the ground in TX. Some wag told her, "just like Haiti."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 14, 2025 07:34 AM (0eaVi)
116
I wonder what Bongino will pull today. If he resigns he's going on my squit list.
Posted by: fd at July 14, 2025 07:34 AM (vFG9F)
117
JJ is here
JJ is here
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 14, 2025 07:34 AM (gbOdA)
118
I'm beginning to believe the whole Epstein mishegoss is a deep state psy-ops to get MAGA to turn on itself.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 14, 2025 07:35 AM (WHfpM)
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Many years ago a magazine had a feature, "America's House of Lords", profiling DC folks who screwed up in every job they held, yet always continued to rise in the media's estimation. Hillary Clinton would certainly be among them today.
Many years ago a magazine had a feature, "America's House of Lords", profiling DC folks who screwed up in every job they held, yet always continued to rise in the media's estimation. Hillary Clinton would certainly be among them today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 07:35 AM (HZi96)
120
So where is the lowering of the US flag for the departed 4000 Intel employees like we get for the RIF in the State Department?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:36 AM (a4flb)
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I wonder what Bongino will pull today. If he resigns he's going on my squit list.
TBH, I love Bongino's replacement in Rush's timeslot. Vince is absolutely outstanding in his role.
Bongino has trashed his personal reputation so bad, people won't be able to withhold laughter anytime he starts talking about what Feds should do.
He should take his lovely wife and his multi-millions and enjoy what days the good LORD gave him.
TBH, I love Bongino's replacement in Rush's timeslot. Vince is absolutely outstanding in his role.
Bongino has trashed his personal reputation so bad, people won't be able to withhold laughter anytime he starts talking about what Feds should do.
He should take his lovely wife and his multi-millions and enjoy what days the good LORD gave him.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 14, 2025 07:39 AM (a4flb)
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"The reaction on Epstein should thus be startling to him. No one is buying it. No one is dropping it."
It cheesed me off as well, but here's a different take:
https://tinyurl.com/5n64wn79 (link goes to accordingtohoyt.com)
The salient bit is that the FBI under the Biden admin had ample time to mutate any evidence that was take from pedo island. If Epstein believed that he no longer had the hold he thought he had on various movers and shakers, then he might have killed himself.
If you're going to do the "I got shit on you" thing, you need to digitize and encrypt the proof, make it visible with vague indications of the content along with the public key(s) and currently signed checksums. The tricky bit is to find a way to have the private key available after you're dead but not before.
It cheesed me off as well, but here's a different take:
https://tinyurl.com/5n64wn79 (link goes to accordingtohoyt.com)
The salient bit is that the FBI under the Biden admin had ample time to mutate any evidence that was take from pedo island. If Epstein believed that he no longer had the hold he thought he had on various movers and shakers, then he might have killed himself.
If you're going to do the "I got shit on you" thing, you need to digitize and encrypt the proof, make it visible with vague indications of the content along with the public key(s) and currently signed checksums. The tricky bit is to find a way to have the private key available after you're dead but not before.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 14, 2025 07:42 AM (oyXgq)
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 08:44 AM (aURVT)
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85 "The cuts were supposed to mostly target middle managers, but an analysis found that just 8% of jobs cut had "manager" in the title, while technicians and engineers were heavily affected."
Sounds like a combination of automation and outsourcing.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 14, 2025 07:03 AM (P5BPp)
Sounds to me more like managers did the cutting.
Sounds like a combination of automation and outsourcing.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 14, 2025 07:03 AM (P5BPp)
Sounds to me more like managers did the cutting.
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 14, 2025 02:11 PM (9GgQz)
Sunday Overnight Open Thread - July 13, 2025 [Doof]
(Photo and song - courtesy of nurse ratched)
Message in a
A couple renovating their new home discovered hidden inside their loft a heartwarming message written by a little girl 35 years ago—on the side of an empty toilet paper roll. Charlotte England-Black found the touching note, which was concealed in the attic of their property in Nottingham, England, in 1989 when the little girl was moving out. The 30-year-old moved into the house with her husband five months ago, but only found the hidden time capsule last Friday. The note was penned by Emma—who was seven years old at the time—as a secret message for the home’s future owners. *** Charlotte immediately wondered where Emma was now—so she reached out on a Facebook community page in a bid to track her down. Amazingly, she was found within the hour.Hidden time capsule? More like a time crap-sule, amirite??
Useful tools definitionsCheck out the link. Some great entries.
DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted project which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing could get to it. WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, 'Oh sh --' SKILL SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short. PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation of blood-blisters. BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs. HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes. VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand. OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside the wheel hub out of which you want to remove a bearing race. TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood projectiles for testing wall integrity. HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly under the bumper. BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to cut good aluminum sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside edge. TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of everything you forgot to disconnect. PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out phillips screw heads. STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans.. Sometimes used to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms. PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part. HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to make hoses too short. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. UTILITY KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while wearing said clothes. **SOB TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling 'Son of a b----' at the top of your lungs. It is also, most often, the next tool that you will need.*
Valid question
Not wrong!
'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper) It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n. ------
From Heartache to Hope This week brought heavy news with the loss of friends, family and devastating events in the Texas Hill Country. The heartbreaking images of children who lost their lives cast a somber mood. Only faith can provide strength through such profound grief. President Trump and First Lady Melania visited the affected area, visibly moved by the tragedy. Melania’s attire during the visit was appropriately subdued. She wore a single-breasted Dolce & Gabbana safari jacket, a simple green t-shirt, green pants of an unknown brand, and Chuck Taylor Low 70s in iron grey.
On July 3, Melania visited the National Children’s Hospital to decorate for Independence Day. She opted for Roger Vivier Ballet Flats in off-white patent leather, paired with a 2019 Gabriela Hearst Mirtha Pintucked Polka-Dot Silk Twill Shirt in ivory and navy. The timeless quality of the shirt proves that well-made clothing can remain stylish years later.
Speaking of timeless, a private Japanese collector purchased Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag for a staggering $10 million, far exceeding the expected six-figure price. It’s safe to say this iconic bag won’t be used for everyday errands.
Elsewhere in the forest, Ivanka Trump was spotted with Wendi Murdoch at the Allen & Co. Media and Technology Conference in Sun Valley. Ivanka’s summer-appropriate outfit was chic yet approachable. She wore a Destree Hans cotton dress in white ($620), Margaux Demijane woven ecru leather shoes ($325), a Celine Cabas Phantom medium bag in white ($1,850), and Velvet Canyon’s The Poet sunglasses in black ($249), totaling around $3,000.
Want to recreate Ivanka’s look for less? Here’s a budget-friendly alternative:
Shoes- Sanctuary Gia Woven Mary Jane Ballet Flats (Dillard’s, $65 on sale)
Bag- Valentina Leather Tote (TJ Maxx, $60)
Sunglasses - Quay Aura Pointe 35mm Round Sunglasses (Quay, $75) Total? $388
For an even more affordable option, shop entirely at Target:
Shoes- Wild Fable Lorelei Woven Mary Jane Flats with memory foam insole ($35)
Bag- A New Day Work Tote Bag ($35)
Sunglasses- A New Day ($15)
Total? $111 As we move forward from this week’s mix of heartache and hope, we’re reminded to hold tight to faith and love. Melania’s quiet grace and mama-bear heart shone through, while Ivanka’s sunny, chic vibe at Sun Valley gave us fashion inspiration to play with—on a budget, no less! Let’s embrace next week with big energy, bold style, and hearts full of positivity. ------ Thank you, Piper - very nicely done.
Live Aid at 40: Remembering the global concert that rocked JFK Stadium Often hailed as the greatest live performance ever - Queen at Live Aid
Check out more videos here: 40 of the Best Moments From Live Aid. Some outstanding performances. Among those featured at the link: Phil Collins Flies From London to Philadelphia and Is the Only Act to Play Both Live Aid Venues
The Who Reunites Three Years After a Farewell Tour
Sting Joins Dire Straits for 'Money for Nothing'
Not-such-a-mystery click
Comments, questions, suggestions, or emotional outbursts? Do the email thing at doof2112 at proton dot me.
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Have you considered… This blog is read world-wide. In Australia. In Israel. When it's night in the USA, it's mid-day elsewhere.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
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Top pic, whale bones, or the leftovers of Stacy Abrams picnic?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:03 PM (0eaVi)
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Meow
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 13, 2025 10:03 PM (w3u3d)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:04 PM (0eaVi)
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ST.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 10:04 PM (jjOUZ)
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 13, 2025 10:04 PM (GYt5+)
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Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:05 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:05 PM (HZi96)
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Did it start with here I sit broken hearted?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 10:05 PM (jjOUZ)
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Not wrong!
Not wrong? How are you going to work on your British roadster without a posidrive screwdriver??
Oh wait. Nowadays, you have to be crazy to own one.
Not wrong? How are you going to work on your British roadster without a posidrive screwdriver??
Oh wait. Nowadays, you have to be crazy to own one.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (0eaVi)
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Sorry I'm late. I am not really at liberty to discuss the details, but, rest assured, we have taken all necessary precautions to ensure that this situation does not develop into a global catastrophe.
At least, we think we have taken every precaution. Sometimes there are so many variables at play that one cannot possibly account for them all. Just go on and enjoy your evening.
At least, we think we have taken every precaution. Sometimes there are so many variables at play that one cannot possibly account for them all. Just go on and enjoy your evening.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (M7GJP)
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willowed:
New a lady whose husband was bugging her. She told him to quit.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
New a lady whose husband was bugging her. She told him to quit.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (wBe+K)
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Good evening, friends!
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:07 PM (pZEOD)
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What makes Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag 'Iconic'?
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 10:08 PM (i0F8b)
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Have you considered… This blog is read world-wide. In Australia. In Israel. When it's night in the USA, it's mid-day elsewhere.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
Waitaminnit. Why should we change for the rest of the world? What are you, some kind of anti-'Murican commie or something? You must like the metric system, too.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
Waitaminnit. Why should we change for the rest of the world? What are you, some kind of anti-'Murican commie or something? You must like the metric system, too.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 10:08 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:09 PM (cYBz/)
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TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.
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Uncle lent me a forged come-along to pull the engine out of the Ford. Just about turned that car wrong side out.
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Uncle lent me a forged come-along to pull the engine out of the Ford. Just about turned that car wrong side out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:09 PM (wBe+K)
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Her Majesty just showed me a historical photo posted on FB of her and Mr. Demian, taken at Cobo Hall in the '90s. She's got big hair. What a fox.
Her Majesty just showed me a historical photo posted on FB of her and Mr. Demian, taken at Cobo Hall in the '90s. She's got big hair. What a fox.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:09 PM (HZi96)
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>>> Charlotte England-Black found the touching note, which was concealed in the attic of their property in Nottingham, England, in 1989 when the little girl was moving out.
Found a small baby crib, probably for a big doll, stuffed back in the 'attic' in hard too get location in this one house I bought (was running CAT5 cable to various rooms...). Not a real attic. Generally inaccessable space.
Some voodoo shit going on there.
Found a small baby crib, probably for a big doll, stuffed back in the 'attic' in hard too get location in this one house I bought (was running CAT5 cable to various rooms...). Not a real attic. Generally inaccessable space.
Some voodoo shit going on there.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:09 PM (/lPRQ)
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Nice fashions, Piper!
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 13, 2025 10:10 PM (rbKZ6)
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Melania is so classy, she'd look good in nothing.
_________
I say that HM would look good in burlap.
Melania is so classy, she'd look good in nothing.
_________
I say that HM would look good in burlap.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:10 PM (HZi96)
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14 What makes Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag 'Iconic'?
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 10
Because it sparked the Birkin bag. That one was the OG and it’s the pinnacle of luxury purses.
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 10
Because it sparked the Birkin bag. That one was the OG and it’s the pinnacle of luxury purses.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:10 PM (p4NUW)
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Melania is so classy, she'd look good in nothing.
Well, I'm not wrong am I?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:09 PM (cYBz/)
I don't know. Pics would be useful.
Trust but verify.
Well, I'm not wrong am I?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:09 PM (cYBz/)
I don't know. Pics would be useful.
Trust but verify.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 10:11 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Puddleglum, golfin' in Amish Country at July 13, 2025 10:11 PM (uGaBv)
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New a lady whose husband was bugging her. She told him to quit.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (wBe+K)
Did she refuse to make a sandwich?
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (wBe+K)
Did she refuse to make a sandwich?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:11 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:12 PM (p4NUW)
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Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:05 PM (cYBz/)
Sorry, I left my good hat in the washer.
I have my sarcastic hat on tonight!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:05 PM (cYBz/)
Sorry, I left my good hat in the washer.
I have my sarcastic hat on tonight!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 10:12 PM (S/Y4j)
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[Melania] wore… a simple green t-shirt, green pants of an unknown brand…
Nice to know she can dress in normal clothes. 😊
Has there been an upsurge of little girls named Melania? Because there ought to be.
Nice to know she can dress in normal clothes. 😊
Has there been an upsurge of little girls named Melania? Because there ought to be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - what's in a (brand) name at July 13, 2025 10:12 PM (+kBwA)
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What makes Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag 'Iconic'?
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 10:08 PM (i0F8b)
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What makes Jane Birkin 'Iconic'? Another of those waifs England pumped out by the dozen in the late '60s.
What makes Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag 'Iconic'?
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 10:08 PM (i0F8b)
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What makes Jane Birkin 'Iconic'? Another of those waifs England pumped out by the dozen in the late '60s.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)
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3 Meow
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 13, 2025 10:03 PM (w3u3d)
Welcome.
Don't disappear on us now.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 13, 2025 10:03 PM (w3u3d)
Welcome.
Don't disappear on us now.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:13 PM (M7GJP)
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I have my sarcastic hat on tonight!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
'Looks great on you.'
(am I doing this right?)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
'Looks great on you.'
(am I doing this right?)
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:13 PM (cYBz/)
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I don't know if I am allowed to hijack the thread this early. Paul's cousin, Riva (who I can vouch for personally), lives in Fredericksburg, TX, and is helping out where she can in the Kerrville arra (16 mile straight drive from FDB). I know that we have dome horse lovers in this group, so I am passing this along if anyone wants to help in addition to direct help to the volunteers:
I’ve been a bit quiet yesterday and today about the help we are working to give our first responders/volunteers. With the weekend comes many extra folks who are off and wanting to help wherever they can. I respect that and made a conscious decision to step back a tad to give them space….to help in a form is very healing, we all deserve that.
There will be a huge change starting this evening. Many of the workers who have been helping will leave because of needing to get back to their regular life or job, that’s just life. Many others will step in those empty spots, while still others will continue to be here working just as diligently as they have for the past two weeks. We need them all!
Some of the needs are a bit different then just a couple of days ago, but there are still huge needs (cont)
I’ve been a bit quiet yesterday and today about the help we are working to give our first responders/volunteers. With the weekend comes many extra folks who are off and wanting to help wherever they can. I respect that and made a conscious decision to step back a tad to give them space….to help in a form is very healing, we all deserve that.
There will be a huge change starting this evening. Many of the workers who have been helping will leave because of needing to get back to their regular life or job, that’s just life. Many others will step in those empty spots, while still others will continue to be here working just as diligently as they have for the past two weeks. We need them all!
Some of the needs are a bit different then just a couple of days ago, but there are still huge needs (cont)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 13, 2025 10:13 PM (SRRAx)
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Thanks for another dandy Sunday Night ONT, Doof! Great photo up top.
Thanks to Piper for the 'Ette Fashion Extravaganza. Well done as always! Check out the silver bracelet gifted to Melania by Camp Mystic during the visit to Kerrville. Melania showed it off during her brief press announcement. Very thoughtful and gracious.
Thanks to Piper for the 'Ette Fashion Extravaganza. Well done as always! Check out the silver bracelet gifted to Melania by Camp Mystic during the visit to Kerrville. Melania showed it off during her brief press announcement. Very thoughtful and gracious.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (kB9dk)
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Because it sparked the Birkin bag. That one was the OG and it’s the pinnacle of luxury purses.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:10 PM (p4NUW)
_________
*blinks uncomprehendingly*
*shakes head slowly*
Because it sparked the Birkin bag. That one was the OG and it’s the pinnacle of luxury purses.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:10 PM (p4NUW)
_________
*blinks uncomprehendingly*
*shakes head slowly*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (HZi96)
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Good evening Horde. Thanks Dino and Piper!
Posted by: TRex has no Birkin budget at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (v/wGm)
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Ivanka’s summer-appropriate outfit … totaling around $3,000.
Now do the other gal in the picture.
Now do the other gal in the picture.
Posted by: mindful webworker - blue jeans and a t-shirt at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (+kBwA)
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Damn, Freddy Mercury had some vocal range. What a great live performance.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 10:15 PM (5xuJ/)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:15 PM (HZi96)
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Cuba is going on a diet.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 10:16 PM (jjOUZ)
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 10:16 PM (i0F8b)
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Thanks for another dandy Sunday Night ONT, Doof!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (kB9dk)
YW. Thanks for the kind words.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (kB9dk)
YW. Thanks for the kind words.
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:16 PM (rbUUk)
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This idea crossed my mind my mind during the food thread, when the TxMoMe was brought up. It didn't quite fit the food thread or the gum thread, so you get it first?
Who's bringing flares for a nighttime feral hog hunt, to apply everything Weasel and others taught earlier in the day? I don't think there would be enough time to grill a whole hog; perhaps not even to finish butchering it well for a return trip with the successful hunter.
Who's bringing flares for a nighttime feral hog hunt, to apply everything Weasel and others taught earlier in the day? I don't think there would be enough time to grill a whole hog; perhaps not even to finish butchering it well for a return trip with the successful hunter.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 10:17 PM (S/Y4j)
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36 Ivanka’s summer-appropriate outfit … totaling around $3,000.
Now do the other gal in the picture.
Posted by: mindful webworker - blue jeans and a t-shirt at July 13, 2025
Okay! Hang on to your hat, though, because that is Wendi Murdoch. I
Now do the other gal in the picture.
Posted by: mindful webworker - blue jeans and a t-shirt at July 13, 2025
Okay! Hang on to your hat, though, because that is Wendi Murdoch. I
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:17 PM (p4NUW)
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This First Lady. I suspect she really loves the children.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:17 PM (/lPRQ)
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However, he said briskly, good job, Doof and Piper.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:15 PM (HZi96)
Thanks, H7
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 10:15 PM (HZi96)
Thanks, H7
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:18 PM (rbUUk)
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Sorry, I left my good hat in the washer.
I have my sarcastic hat on tonight!
Both festive little hats!!
I have my sarcastic hat on tonight!
Both festive little hats!!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 10:18 PM (exwDm)
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Riva continues:
Tomorrow I will reach out to another equine group about feed and vet needs. Also tomorrow, I will be contacting the Navasota Equine Surgey Clinic about donating toward equine Phoenix’s surgery costs. Phoenix’s young owner (I believe she is somewhere 19-22 yo) who has done a number of water rescue missions before, is doing all she can to save her brave partner’s life. As they were searching one the muck Phoenix stepped onto what turned out to be false solid mud, but in reality had a huge air pocket under it and thus swallowed horse and rider to Phoenix’s neck area. (Kind of think quick sand scenario,) and they couldn’t get out. Phoenix was pretty badly injured and once out, was rushed to this fine surgery facility with a 50/50 chance of saving his life. From the information I have received so far, the surgery was successful and there is good hope for a full recovery. I will call the clinic to confirm all information and make a direct payment to the clinic.
Just passing that along, if anyone is interested!
Oh, and Hello, Horde! 😊♥️
Tomorrow I will reach out to another equine group about feed and vet needs. Also tomorrow, I will be contacting the Navasota Equine Surgey Clinic about donating toward equine Phoenix’s surgery costs. Phoenix’s young owner (I believe she is somewhere 19-22 yo) who has done a number of water rescue missions before, is doing all she can to save her brave partner’s life. As they were searching one the muck Phoenix stepped onto what turned out to be false solid mud, but in reality had a huge air pocket under it and thus swallowed horse and rider to Phoenix’s neck area. (Kind of think quick sand scenario,) and they couldn’t get out. Phoenix was pretty badly injured and once out, was rushed to this fine surgery facility with a 50/50 chance of saving his life. From the information I have received so far, the surgery was successful and there is good hope for a full recovery. I will call the clinic to confirm all information and make a direct payment to the clinic.
Just passing that along, if anyone is interested!
Oh, and Hello, Horde! 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 13, 2025 10:18 PM (SRRAx)
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TWO POUND HAMMER - For when you have to totally destroy your finger requiring amputation.
This close || a couple weeks ago. Ws sure it was destroyed. Wrapped it tightly in a towel. An hour took a peek.
Whew - it was squished out the side.
This close || a couple weeks ago. Ws sure it was destroyed. Wrapped it tightly in a towel. An hour took a peek.
Whew - it was squished out the side.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:21 PM (/lPRQ)
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Ok, what is the arrangement of driftwood in the photo? Is it the remains of an ancient coastal crossbow - an early example of coastal artillery?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 10:21 PM (S/Y4j)
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For some reason, Riva's part of comment #32 didn't get italicized - SHE is the one doing all of the legwork down there; I am just passing along her comment about a young lady and her horse who had been helping with the rescue/recovery/clean-up efforts in the area.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 13, 2025 10:22 PM (SRRAx)
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Who's bringing flares for a nighttime feral hog hunt, to apply everything Weasel and others taught earlier in the day? I don't think there would be enough time to grill a whole hog; perhaps not even to finish butchering it well for a return trip with the successful hunter.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Y'all are very creative....know that there will be NO medical support after sunset. That's time to party and socialize!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Y'all are very creative....know that there will be NO medical support after sunset. That's time to party and socialize!
Posted by: The Grateful at July 13, 2025 10:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I have one screwdriver. With about 200 1/4" bits that fit in it. A nice MAC kit.
Anything phylips gets the drill and whatever fucked up #2 bit I have laying around. Then replace wth torx because never use a phylips screw twice. Flat head I cut to the chase. I die grind out the head and use vice grips when I can get to the shaft. Most shit made with flat heads is old as hell and rusted anyway. Probably my least favorite screw head. Phylips is next least favorite. I like torx, the six pionty one. Allen is good too. The rest I could do without. A lot of them are security type screws.
Anything phylips gets the drill and whatever fucked up #2 bit I have laying around. Then replace wth torx because never use a phylips screw twice. Flat head I cut to the chase. I die grind out the head and use vice grips when I can get to the shaft. Most shit made with flat heads is old as hell and rusted anyway. Probably my least favorite screw head. Phylips is next least favorite. I like torx, the six pionty one. Allen is good too. The rest I could do without. A lot of them are security type screws.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 10:22 PM (lPvx2)
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Never been a fan of Queen. Regarded them as talent wasted on self-indulgent silliness, but even I will admit, that LiveAid performance is something to behold. The audience had a lot to do with it, however.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (MZ+PY)
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So, my brothers liked Queen but my mom wouldn't let them have full albums, and it was only when I got older that I found out it was because of Freddie Mercury's orientation. I knew "Bohemian Rhapsody" because of Wayne's World and some guys in my high school re-creating the scene for our talent show. It was only once internet video took off that I realized how much I liked Queen's music.
That being said, I'm less than a minute into the video posted and Freddie tests out the piano by playing the first part of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1? Friggin awesome.
That being said, I'm less than a minute into the video posted and Freddie tests out the piano by playing the first part of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1? Friggin awesome.
Posted by: pookysgirl, resting from vacation at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (Wt5PA)
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I loved all the tool definitions. I was surprised there was no mention of the adjustable wrench. AKA knuckle buster.
And also the hammer definition had no mention of the thumb.
And also the hammer definition had no mention of the thumb.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (Lo97M)
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Howdy Doof!
Howdy horde!
I tried to get artsy a couple weeks ago and took that photo on my beach. Someone else did the sculpture work.
My mom LOVED Pablo Cruise.
Howdy horde!
I tried to get artsy a couple weeks ago and took that photo on my beach. Someone else did the sculpture work.
My mom LOVED Pablo Cruise.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (mT+6a)
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He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
So your wife just got meat, through and through, no major veins or arteries?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
So your wife just got meat, through and through, no major veins or arteries?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:24 PM (/lPRQ)
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Hidden time capsule? More like a time crap-sule, amirite?
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Bad joke. I like it.
Thanks for the ONT!
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Bad joke. I like it.
Thanks for the ONT!
Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2025 10:24 PM (ZBXTd)
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Waitaminnit. Why should we change for the rest of the world? What are you, some kind of anti-'Murican commie or something? You must like the metric system, too.
Posted by: RickZ
My! That escalator quickly!
Okay, so howzabout "Great American Overnight Thread"?
GAONT? Needs work…
Posted by: RickZ
My! That escalator quickly!
Okay, so howzabout "Great American Overnight Thread"?
GAONT? Needs work…
Posted by: mindful webworker - ONUSAT? at July 13, 2025 10:25 PM (+kBwA)
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The best part of Live Aid was Bob Dylan coming out with Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood. Then Ronnie having to adjust his fly. Then Bob breaking a guitar string.
It was magical.
It was magical.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:25 PM (M7GJP)
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49 Ok, what is the arrangement of driftwood in the photo? Is it the remains of an ancient coastal crossbow - an early example of coastal artillery?
It's a sign that says "I hate Trump and want him dead".
It's a sign that says "I hate Trump and want him dead".
Posted by: James Comey at July 13, 2025 10:25 PM (Riz8t)
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Evening all. I hope you had a great weekend.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 13, 2025 10:26 PM (sPQoU)
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Okay, so Wendi’s tshirt alone is $1150. It’s Christian Dior “Souvenir” t-shirt.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (p4NUW)
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I loved all the tool definitions. I was surprised there was no mention of the adjustable wrench. AKA knuckle buster.
And also the hammer definition had no mention of the thumb.
Posted by: Florida Peasant
Yes, add in the radial arm saw, used to lessens a persons ability to count to 10 on ones fingers
And also the hammer definition had no mention of the thumb.
Posted by: Florida Peasant
Yes, add in the radial arm saw, used to lessens a persons ability to count to 10 on ones fingers
Posted by: Some Rat at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (H4W3d)
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Melania is so classy, she'd look good in nothing.
Well, I'm not wrong am I?
Posted by: Tonypete
Indeed she did. 😉
Well, I'm not wrong am I?
Posted by: Tonypete
Indeed she did. 😉
Posted by: mindful webworker - and no doubt still does at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (+kBwA)
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Hey Horde,
I would like a quick opinion. I'm cleaning my last of my late ,other's bedroom now that the house is mine after 6 month's of torture, which I can miraculously laugh about now.
Anyways, Mom was a nun for 14 years. There are some stuff I'm finding that I know she would want kept.
But there are other things like a book of nuns that served Northern Ohio since 1850. I don't know if she even ever looked at it. I'm debating whether to pitch or keep. I'll never look at it. But I'm also not short on space.
I'm thinking I'll keep it and revisit it later.
There were small bottles of what I'm guessing was holy water. No labels, nothing. I was just going to pitch but is there a special way to get rid of it? I could probably just keep them in a drawer too and when I'm finally blessed with a family and kids, the kids can toss it....
Back to the last few drawers....
I would like a quick opinion. I'm cleaning my last of my late ,other's bedroom now that the house is mine after 6 month's of torture, which I can miraculously laugh about now.
Anyways, Mom was a nun for 14 years. There are some stuff I'm finding that I know she would want kept.
But there are other things like a book of nuns that served Northern Ohio since 1850. I don't know if she even ever looked at it. I'm debating whether to pitch or keep. I'll never look at it. But I'm also not short on space.
I'm thinking I'll keep it and revisit it later.
There were small bottles of what I'm guessing was holy water. No labels, nothing. I was just going to pitch but is there a special way to get rid of it? I could probably just keep them in a drawer too and when I'm finally blessed with a family and kids, the kids can toss it....
Back to the last few drawers....
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.11 at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (jvJvP)
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***and Chuck Taylor Low 70s in iron grey.
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Now that Trump has lost an inch or two she's wearing lower and flatter more often.
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Now that Trump has lost an inch or two she's wearing lower and flatter more often.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:28 PM (wBe+K)
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My #28: Thank you Pixy for the barrel-savers.
Posted by: mindful webworker - so close at July 13, 2025 10:30 PM (+kBwA)
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30. I just tend to fade in and out. 😸
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 13, 2025 10:30 PM (w3u3d)
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that reminds me, last time I went to a coffee place they'd run out of TP. Tempting to write something on that tube like "BUY MOR TP".
Posted by: gKWVE at July 13, 2025 10:30 PM (gKWVE)
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This First Lady. I suspect she really loves the children.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
But not the British children.
This First Lady. I suspect she really loves the children.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
But not the British children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (63Dwl)
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66 Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.11 at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (jvJvP)
Is there a convent somewhere that might want that book?
Is there a convent somewhere that might want that book?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (M7GJP)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:32 PM (wBe+K)
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Good evening Horde. Thanks Dino and Piper!
Posted by: TRex has no Birkin budget at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (v/wGm)
Thanking yourself for my work?? LOL!
Posted by: TRex has no Birkin budget at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (v/wGm)
Thanking yourself for my work?? LOL!
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:32 PM (rbUUk)
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Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (wBe+K)
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Back in the late 60s/early 70s my sister was out weeding one of our gardens. The older lady next door came running out of the house yelling "He's going to kill me!"
Her husband came running right behind her with a gun, pointed it at her, and pulled the trigger. Somehow it backfired and killed him.
Just as well. He was a drunk and a mean one at that. He also shot one of our dogs once
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:06 PM (wBe+K)
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Back in the late 60s/early 70s my sister was out weeding one of our gardens. The older lady next door came running out of the house yelling "He's going to kill me!"
Her husband came running right behind her with a gun, pointed it at her, and pulled the trigger. Somehow it backfired and killed him.
Just as well. He was a drunk and a mean one at that. He also shot one of our dogs once
Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2025 10:33 PM (4MR3n)
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I know that many of you are vehemently opposed to Facebook, but for any of you who are still on it who would like to know how they can help with the situation down in the Kerrville area, Riva Koch Davis is Paul's cousin on there. She is linking lots of good things on FB about items that are desperately needed by the volunteers who are down there.
One of the posts she put up earlier today was from one of the folks who is coordinating some of the personal needs of the volunteers; you can actually order stuff through Amazon and have it delivered directly to one of the hotel's in Fredericksburg where many of the volunteers are staying; they will be sure that it gets distributed to those who need them.
The Cajun Navy said (another post that Riva put up today, with contact information) that they are in need of IV supplies to help keep the volunteers hydrated - they have pretty much cleaned all of the medical places out of their things until the next shipment comes in!
Thanks, Horde, for all of your help 😊♥️🙏
One of the posts she put up earlier today was from one of the folks who is coordinating some of the personal needs of the volunteers; you can actually order stuff through Amazon and have it delivered directly to one of the hotel's in Fredericksburg where many of the volunteers are staying; they will be sure that it gets distributed to those who need them.
The Cajun Navy said (another post that Riva put up today, with contact information) that they are in need of IV supplies to help keep the volunteers hydrated - they have pretty much cleaned all of the medical places out of their things until the next shipment comes in!
Thanks, Horde, for all of your help 😊♥️🙏
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 13, 2025 10:33 PM (SRRAx)
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71 But not the British children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (63Dwl)
I laughed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (63Dwl)
I laughed.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:33 PM (M7GJP)
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There were small bottles of what I'm guessing was holy water. No labels, nothing. I was just going to pitch but is there a special way to get rid of it? I could probably just keep them in a drawer too and when I'm finally blessed with a family and kids, the kids can toss it....
Posted by: Stateless
Holy Water can be respectfully returned to the ground. Or, you could pour it into a Sacrarium. Find one at your local Catholic Parish.
Posted by: Stateless
Holy Water can be respectfully returned to the ground. Or, you could pour it into a Sacrarium. Find one at your local Catholic Parish.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:34 PM (cYBz/)
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Wendi’s outfit-
The T-shirt is Dior, $1150
The Jeans are also Dior- Dioriviera Flared Jeans, $2300. I can’t see the cardigan or the shoes well enough to place them. But Tshirt and Jeans coming in at $3450.
The T-shirt is Dior, $1150
The Jeans are also Dior- Dioriviera Flared Jeans, $2300. I can’t see the cardigan or the shoes well enough to place them. But Tshirt and Jeans coming in at $3450.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 10:34 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I listen to EDM digital radio on the drive home from work. Short pieces that are unrecognizable background buzz. Anyway, I started seeing “doof” in the titles a lot. Come to find out, “doof” is a down under lingo for an outdoor rave. I picture multiple poisonous creatures and kangaroos waving glow sticks and grooving to EDM. I wonder if pixie doof enjoyer?
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (cduTK)
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74 Thanking yourself for my work?? LOL!
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:32 PM
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Yikes. My apologies. Thank you DISCO and Piper.
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:32 PM
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Yikes. My apologies. Thank you DISCO and Piper.
Posted by: TRex has a small brain at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (v/wGm)
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There were small bottles of what I'm guessing was holy water. No labels, nothing. I was just going to pitch but is there a special way to get rid of it? I could probably just keep them in a drawer too and when I'm finally blessed with a family and kids, the kids can toss it....]
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Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.11 at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (jvJvP)
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Is there a convent somewhere that might want that book?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (M7GJP)
To find out, I'd send bottle of water to Hillary. If she expodes in flames, it's Holy Water.
There were small bottles of what I'm guessing was holy water. No labels, nothing. I was just going to pitch but is there a special way to get rid of it? I could probably just keep them in a drawer too and when I'm finally blessed with a family and kids, the kids can toss it....]
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Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.11 at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (jvJvP)
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Is there a convent somewhere that might want that book?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (M7GJP)
To find out, I'd send bottle of water to Hillary. If she expodes in flames, it's Holy Water.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 10:36 PM (gKDq2)
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Her husband came running right behind her with a gun, pointed it at her, and pulled the trigger. Somehow it backfired and killed him.
Just as well. He was a drunk and a mean one at that. He also shot one of our dogs once
Posted by: 496
I don't suppose you brought that dog to his headstone?
Just as well. He was a drunk and a mean one at that. He also shot one of our dogs once
Posted by: 496
I don't suppose you brought that dog to his headstone?
Posted by: gKWVE at July 13, 2025 10:37 PM (gKWVE)
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Thanks for the ONT Disco. And Piper!
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 10:37 PM (41CYW)
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Never been a fan of Queen. Regarded them as talent wasted on self-indulgent silliness
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (MZ+PY)
Rock stars self-indulgent??!! Perish the thought.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (MZ+PY)
Rock stars self-indulgent??!! Perish the thought.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:38 PM (0eaVi)
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Holy Water can be respectfully returned to the ground. Or, you could pour it into a Sacrarium. Find one at your local Catholic Parish.
Posted by: Tonypete
Hollow point wooden bullets in .45 caliber (LC or 45-70, your choice). Fill bullet with Holy Water.
For the vampires.
Posted by: Tonypete
Hollow point wooden bullets in .45 caliber (LC or 45-70, your choice). Fill bullet with Holy Water.
For the vampires.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:39 PM (/lPRQ)
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Toilet partition has always used exotic fasteners to deter vandals. Nice ONT, Doof. It is brought to the next level by Piper's contribution, as usual.
Posted by: Repeat Customer at July 13, 2025 10:39 PM (G5+As)
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So, my brothers liked Queen but my mom wouldn't let them have full albums, and it was only when I got older that I found out it was because of Freddie Mercury's orientation.
Posted by: pookysgirl, resting from vacation at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (Wt5PA)
She could have let you have one side, as Freddie went both ways. I believe he said the love of his life was a certain woman, not a guy.
Posted by: pookysgirl, resting from vacation at July 13, 2025 10:23 PM (Wt5PA)
She could have let you have one side, as Freddie went both ways. I believe he said the love of his life was a certain woman, not a guy.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:40 PM (0eaVi)
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15 Have you considered… This blog is read world-wide. In Australia. In Israel. When it's night in the USA, it's mid-day elsewhere.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
You almost had me. Then I remembered that the moon is out, so it's night time, and if it's night time on the moon, then that is universal night time. What, does the other hemisphere have it's own moon?
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
You almost had me. Then I remembered that the moon is out, so it's night time, and if it's night time on the moon, then that is universal night time. What, does the other hemisphere have it's own moon?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 13, 2025 10:42 PM (pIfcn)
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But Tshirt and Jeans coming in at $3450.
Posted by: Piper
Good grief.
For that much, shouldn't the jeans have tears in them?
Posted by: Piper
Good grief.
For that much, shouldn't the jeans have tears in them?
Posted by: mindful webworker - must be nice at July 13, 2025 10:42 PM (+kBwA)
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"Hidden time capsule? More like a time crap-sule, amirite??"
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Is this a thing from somewhere? I often watch reruns of the various Treks, and if my son overhears "Captain's log", he responds with "Captain's log? More like crap-tains log, amirite??"
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Is this a thing from somewhere? I often watch reruns of the various Treks, and if my son overhears "Captain's log", he responds with "Captain's log? More like crap-tains log, amirite??"
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (OGOaV)
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The toilet roll message story is cute. If I were the homeowner, I'd add my own message with a date and put it right back into the wall for the next renovator to find. Of course, since it's in the UK, you'd be well advised to write it in Arabic.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (QdGJh)
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Yikes. My apologies. Thank you DISCO and Piper.
Posted by: TRex has a small brain at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (v/wGm)
All good. Typing with those stubby arms must be difficult.
Posted by: TRex has a small brain at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (v/wGm)
All good. Typing with those stubby arms must be difficult.
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (rbUUk)
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80 I picture multiple poisonous creatures and kangaroos waving glow sticks and grooving to EDM. I wonder if pixie doof enjoyer?
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (cduTK)
I think it was in Australia that they first got a full symphony orchestra to join with DJs to play EDM and rave dance songs. They call it Synthony.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (cduTK)
I think it was in Australia that they first got a full symphony orchestra to join with DJs to play EDM and rave dance songs. They call it Synthony.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:44 PM (M7GJP)
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But Tshirt and Jeans coming in at $3450.
Posted by: Piper
I've spent that much on clothes.
.....since leaving home.
Posted by: Piper
I've spent that much on clothes.
.....since leaving home.
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 10:44 PM (DgGvY)
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72 66 Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.11 at July 13, 2025 10:27 PM (jvJvP)
Is there a convent somewhere that might want that book?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:3
And TonyPete.
Her convent is closed.
I'm going to keep these in the dresser by her bed after I clean that out, I'll keep the Holy Water too.
Her cousin is a priest so she has stuff that was blessed in Jerusalem.
The dresser by the bed will be much easier to clean since I won't be finding laminated love letters from my father. All my retard brother got was cash. I have 14 years of memories and no regrets.
I did let him know her last words were my name being called over and over. I was going to take that to my grave but not after the last six months. Thanks everyone.
Have a happy week. I will.
Back to it.
Is there a convent somewhere that might want that book?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:3
And TonyPete.
Her convent is closed.
I'm going to keep these in the dresser by her bed after I clean that out, I'll keep the Holy Water too.
Her cousin is a priest so she has stuff that was blessed in Jerusalem.
The dresser by the bed will be much easier to clean since I won't be finding laminated love letters from my father. All my retard brother got was cash. I have 14 years of memories and no regrets.
I did let him know her last words were my name being called over and over. I was going to take that to my grave but not after the last six months. Thanks everyone.
Have a happy week. I will.
Back to it.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.11 at July 13, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
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I listen to EDM digital radio on the drive home from work. Short pieces that are unrecognizable background buzz. Anyway, I started seeing “doof” in the titles a lot. Come to find out, “doof” is a down under lingo for an outdoor rave. I picture multiple poisonous creatures and kangaroos waving glow sticks and grooving to EDM. I wonder if pixie doof enjoyer?
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (cduTK)
So if I host one of those events, it would be a Doof doof?
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 10:35 PM (cduTK)
So if I host one of those events, it would be a Doof doof?
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:45 PM (rbUUk)
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Is this a thing from somewhere? I often watch reruns of the various Treks, and if my son overhears "Captain's log", . . . .
Posted by: No One of Consequence
For some unknown reason, this reminds me of the 'USS Clueless'.
Wow.
Posted by: No One of Consequence
For some unknown reason, this reminds me of the 'USS Clueless'.
Wow.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 10:46 PM (cYBz/)
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The toilet roll message story is cute. If I were the homeowner, I'd add my own message with a date and put it right back into the wall for the next renovator to find. Of course, since it's in the UK, you'd be well advised to write it in Arabic.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (QdGJh)
You'd also need to explain what toilet paper is to those 4th century barbarians
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (QdGJh)
You'd also need to explain what toilet paper is to those 4th century barbarians
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (rbUUk)
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No mention of sockets in that tool description, at least the fact that 10mm sockets have an uncanny ability to disappear?
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (M7GJP)
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Did she refuse to make a sandwich?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Not only that, she pushed the power button of the Beelink with a pencil eraser and moved it into the machine. Machine had to be disassembled. Sponge button was moved back in place with a plastic toothpick. Good thing the tiny push-pin it covered wasn't broken.
Did she refuse to make a sandwich?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Not only that, she pushed the power button of the Beelink with a pencil eraser and moved it into the machine. Machine had to be disassembled. Sponge button was moved back in place with a plastic toothpick. Good thing the tiny push-pin it covered wasn't broken.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (wBe+K)
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I clicked on the ONT and saw the picture.
"Heck, that looks like Puget Sound, around Alki," LCD said to himself.
Then I saw it was from nurse.
She only has to walk across the street to get to that scene.
Now you know why she is so full of confidence, wouldn't you be if you lived across the street from that?
"Heck, that looks like Puget Sound, around Alki," LCD said to himself.
Then I saw it was from nurse.
She only has to walk across the street to get to that scene.
Now you know why she is so full of confidence, wouldn't you be if you lived across the street from that?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (dadcM)
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Nice picture Nurse!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (W/lyH)
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Good grief.
For that much, shouldn't the jeans have tears in them?
Posted by: mindful webworker - must be nice at July 13, 2025 10:42 PM (+kBwA)
They also ought to have a good-looking woman in them.
For that much, shouldn't the jeans have tears in them?
Posted by: mindful webworker - must be nice at July 13, 2025 10:42 PM (+kBwA)
They also ought to have a good-looking woman in them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 10:48 PM (D91Jg)
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Now you know why she is so full of confidence, wouldn't you be if you lived across the street from that?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
With such easy access to good whacking sticks? Heck yeah!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
With such easy access to good whacking sticks? Heck yeah!
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 10:50 PM (DgGvY)
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What happened to Wendy Deng ?!
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 10:50 PM (g47mK)
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Done with the Queen video. Man, that's how concerts should be: tons of people just enjoying the music.
Posted by: pookysgirl will keep fighting to the end at July 13, 2025 10:51 PM (Wt5PA)
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"Hidden time capsule? More like a time crap-sule, amirite??"
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Is this a thing from somewhere? I often watch reruns of the various Treks, and if my son overhears "Captain's log", he responds with "Captain's log? More like crap-tains log, amirite??"
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (OGOaV)
William SHAT-ner and the Captain's Log.
Old, old joke. As old as The Shat himself.
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Is this a thing from somewhere? I often watch reruns of the various Treks, and if my son overhears "Captain's log", he responds with "Captain's log? More like crap-tains log, amirite??"
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (OGOaV)
William SHAT-ner and the Captain's Log.
Old, old joke. As old as The Shat himself.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 10:52 PM (gKDq2)
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Good one doof.
Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2025 10:53 PM (LHPAg)
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Rock stars self-indulgent??!! Perish the thought.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:38 PM (0eaVi)
Self-indulgent is one thing. Silly, well, I give you the B-52's. I knew some of them from my Athens days. Kate and Cindy were one of the greatest female harmonies ever, but, most of it was wasted on, well, silliness. Thanks, Fred.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:38 PM (0eaVi)
Self-indulgent is one thing. Silly, well, I give you the B-52's. I knew some of them from my Athens days. Kate and Cindy were one of the greatest female harmonies ever, but, most of it was wasted on, well, silliness. Thanks, Fred.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 13, 2025 10:53 PM (MZ+PY)
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No mention of sockets in that tool description, at least the fact that 10mm sockets have an uncanny ability to disappear?
Posted by: tankdemon
This isi why the 'Zon sells them by the twelve pack.
Posted by: tankdemon
This isi why the 'Zon sells them by the twelve pack.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:56 PM (/lPRQ)
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I'm beginning to think the rotating ads on this site are designed to make you uncomfortable. Someone ramming a full set of false teeth in their mouth over and over in a sped up shot; Some old lady in a wheel chair that looks like someone locked her in the bathroom (because she was being a bother); Some cartoon scratching their head and creating more dandruff snow than they've seen in Vermont in years;
King Harv ads have become the non-obtrusive normal ones, and that's saying something.
King Harv ads have become the non-obtrusive normal ones, and that's saying something.
Posted by: Orson at July 13, 2025 10:57 PM (dIske)
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Hey guys, thanks for the ELP. Aww, the music of my youth.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 13, 2025 10:57 PM (w3u3d)
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Not only that, she pushed the power button of the Beelink with a pencil eraser and moved it into the machine. Machine had to be disassembled. Sponge button was moved back in place with a plastic toothpick. Good thing the tiny push-pin it covered wasn't broken.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (wBe+K)
No!.... NO!!!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:47 PM (wBe+K)
No!.... NO!!!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (0eaVi)
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Favorite Queen song: "Hammer to Fall." They play a few seconds of it in the movie "Highlander," right before the vigilante with the Uzi gets skewered by the Kurgan.
Posted by: PabloD at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (o2Win)
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Uh..I need to add a screw to that mental disorder list- The JIS screw. Ever notice if you work on a Japanese motorcycle, mostly the carburetors,or anything jap with phillips screws, and every single phillips screw driver in your miserable existence wastes the screw head? Its because they aren't exactly phillips, but JIS. The fit is different.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (snZF9)
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Some cartoon scratching their head and creating more dandruff snow than they've seen in Vermont in years;
Posted by: Orson at July 13, 2025 10:57 PM (dIske)
Don Martin, wasn't it?
Posted by: Orson at July 13, 2025 10:57 PM (dIske)
Don Martin, wasn't it?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 11:01 PM (0eaVi)
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Uh..I need to add a screw to that mental disorder list- The JIS screw. Ever notice if you work on a Japanese motorcycle, mostly the carburetors,or anything jap with phillips screws, and every single phillips screw driver in your miserable existence wastes the screw head? Its because they aren't exactly phillips, but JIS. The fit is different.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Related: if you want a Japanese guy to hand you a tool for one of the two "actual screws," ask for a "plus driver" or a "minus driver."
After Berserker's tale, though, I'm not sure if he'll hand you Phillips or JIS if you ask for the plus driver.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Related: if you want a Japanese guy to hand you a tool for one of the two "actual screws," ask for a "plus driver" or a "minus driver."
After Berserker's tale, though, I'm not sure if he'll hand you Phillips or JIS if you ask for the plus driver.
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 11:03 PM (DgGvY)
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Favorite Queen song: "Hammer to Fall." They play a few seconds of it in the movie "Highlander," right before the vigilante with the Uzi gets skewered by the Kurgan.
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I wonder if it was meant to be a Punisher cameo at some point.
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I wonder if it was meant to be a Punisher cameo at some point.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 11:03 PM (zLwRl)
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All this tool stuff.
Reminds me of Mrs D's philosophy. Sometimes it is better to have a handyman than a man handy.
Sigh.
Reminds me of Mrs D's philosophy. Sometimes it is better to have a handyman than a man handy.
Sigh.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 11:03 PM (W/lyH)
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Its because they aren't exactly phillips, but JIS. The fit is different.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (snZF9)
Wait a minnit? You talkin' Japanese girls, or motorbikes??
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (snZF9)
Wait a minnit? You talkin' Japanese girls, or motorbikes??
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 11:04 PM (0eaVi)
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Those are great folks, Teresa. My 'boss' at the Thrift Store is down there with Samaritan's Purse until she and her husband leave on their previously scheduled stint in Alaska with SP.
Thank you for passing the info along, and bless y'all's cousin for her service.
Thank you for passing the info along, and bless y'all's cousin for her service.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 11:05 PM (f+FmA)
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Its because they aren't exactly phillips, but JIS. The fit is different.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Wait a minnit? You talkin' Japanese girls, or motorbikes??
Posted by: OrangeEnt
After the pic of the 4-foot-9 girl drinking a beer on the Friday ONT, I think the power of "AND" applies here.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Wait a minnit? You talkin' Japanese girls, or motorbikes??
Posted by: OrangeEnt
After the pic of the 4-foot-9 girl drinking a beer on the Friday ONT, I think the power of "AND" applies here.
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 11:07 PM (DgGvY)
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107 Done with the Queen video. Man, that's how concerts should be: tons of people just enjoying the music.
Posted by: pookysgirl
I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: pookysgirl
I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:07 PM (mT+6a)
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Favorite Queen song: "Hammer to Fall." They play a few seconds of it in the movie "Highlander," right before the vigilante with the Uzi gets skewered by the Kurgan.
Posted by: PabloD at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (o2Win)
My favorite Queen song is they're 'opener to the world', so to speak, the first song off of their self-titled first album, 'Keep Yourself Alive'. What an opener.
Some bands you just know are going places.
Posted by: PabloD at July 13, 2025 10:59 PM (o2Win)
My favorite Queen song is they're 'opener to the world', so to speak, the first song off of their self-titled first album, 'Keep Yourself Alive'. What an opener.
Some bands you just know are going places.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 11:08 PM (gKDq2)
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What makes Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag 'Iconic'?
Posted by: davidt
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Actually, the overuse of the word "iconic" is one of my pet peeves.
"Kate Moss breaks down her most iconic runway looks!"
"Most iconic" isn't even a thing properly speaking.
What makes Jane Birkin’s original Hermès bag 'Iconic'?
Posted by: davidt
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Actually, the overuse of the word "iconic" is one of my pet peeves.
"Kate Moss breaks down her most iconic runway looks!"
"Most iconic" isn't even a thing properly speaking.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (lCaJd)
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I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
You just pee.
Posted by: nurse ratched
You just pee.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (cYBz/)
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TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood projectiles for testing wall integrity.
ok, thats funny. I have a friend who is mortal enemies with the table saw. I walked into his garage one day a few months after he set up a wood shop. I see a bunch of holes in various shapes in the sheet rock walls. I said dude, WTF where you trying to do there? He points to the table saw and says "it hates me". lol
ok, thats funny. I have a friend who is mortal enemies with the table saw. I walked into his garage one day a few months after he set up a wood shop. I see a bunch of holes in various shapes in the sheet rock walls. I said dude, WTF where you trying to do there? He points to the table saw and says "it hates me". lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 11:10 PM (snZF9)
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What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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You've been obsessed with full bladders all day, nurse!
What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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You've been obsessed with full bladders all day, nurse!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:10 PM (lCaJd)
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I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
I was at a Dead concert with around 125,000 people. The porta-potties were popular and got nasty pretty quickly. Concert was about 14 hours long.
Posted by: nurse ratched
I was at a Dead concert with around 125,000 people. The porta-potties were popular and got nasty pretty quickly. Concert was about 14 hours long.
Posted by: Old Man Adams at July 13, 2025 11:10 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a)
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A carbecue:
youtube.com/watch?v=7i8ZGIL9EAo
youtube.com/watch?v=7i8ZGIL9EAo
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 13, 2025 11:11 PM (TwZXH)
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And PabloD!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a)
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And Oh, what a lucky man...he was.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 11:11 PM (xcxpd)
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I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
They hand bottles up and down the rows. Piss, piss, pass.
Posted by: nurse ratched
They hand bottles up and down the rows. Piss, piss, pass.
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 11:12 PM (DgGvY)
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You've been obsessed with full bladders all day, nurse!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I guess I drink too much!
When am I going to convince you to come to WA and say hello?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
I guess I drink too much!
When am I going to convince you to come to WA and say hello?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:12 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:13 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 11:14 PM (xcxpd)
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WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, 'Oh sh --'
yeah..guilty. I'm constantly wire wheeling bolts to clean off old lok-tite, grease, dirt, rust ,etc. I have launched more shit than NASA.
yeah..guilty. I'm constantly wire wheeling bolts to clean off old lok-tite, grease, dirt, rust ,etc. I have launched more shit than NASA.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 11:14 PM (snZF9)
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I always enjoyed Queen and Rami Malek as Freddie in the movie was amazing.
Posted by: Megthered at July 13, 2025 11:15 PM (GOJbT)
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I guess I drink too much!
When am I going to convince you to come to WA and say hello?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:12 PM (mT+6a)
Really, how much drinking is too much? Perhaps it is the correct amount.
I guess I drink too much!
When am I going to convince you to come to WA and say hello?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:12 PM (mT+6a)
Really, how much drinking is too much? Perhaps it is the correct amount.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 13, 2025 11:16 PM (dadcM)
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"Most iconic" isn't even a thing properly speaking.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (lCaJd)
I agree on the overuse, but I think it is appropriate here. This bag represents the epitome of luxury Hermes, there is a huge amount of respect for it, the design, the quality. And because you can’t just go buy a new one off the shelf, it maintains status. It is the Marilyn Monroe of purses, not the cheap Madonna Version. 😂
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (lCaJd)
I agree on the overuse, but I think it is appropriate here. This bag represents the epitome of luxury Hermes, there is a huge amount of respect for it, the design, the quality. And because you can’t just go buy a new one off the shelf, it maintains status. It is the Marilyn Monroe of purses, not the cheap Madonna Version. 😂
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 11:19 PM (p4NUW)
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LCD!
Diogenes!
My PNW peeps!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a)
S'up!!!???
Diogenes!
My PNW peeps!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a)
S'up!!!???
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 11:20 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:21 PM (gsJ4Q)
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1 Have you considered… This blog is read world-wide. In Australia. In Israel. When it's night in the USA, it's mid-day elsewhere.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
My Colonial oath.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
My Colonial oath.
Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at July 13, 2025 11:21 PM (bgJ0E)
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Really, how much drinking is too much? Perhaps it is the correct amount.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 13, 2025 11:16 PM (dadcM)
One night at some gathering I went to after a guitar show we were drinking copious amounts of booze. Of course there were a lot of guitars laying around from the guys playing around with their new acquisitions. I was trying out one of the guitars and for some reason still unknown to me my photographic memory for music turned on me and out of nowhere I started playing the opening chords to fleetwood mac's Rhiannon. Moral of the story- in berserker world when the fleet mac appears out of nowhere, THAT is too much drinking.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 13, 2025 11:16 PM (dadcM)
One night at some gathering I went to after a guitar show we were drinking copious amounts of booze. Of course there were a lot of guitars laying around from the guys playing around with their new acquisitions. I was trying out one of the guitars and for some reason still unknown to me my photographic memory for music turned on me and out of nowhere I started playing the opening chords to fleetwood mac's Rhiannon. Moral of the story- in berserker world when the fleet mac appears out of nowhere, THAT is too much drinking.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 11:23 PM (snZF9)
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Just attended a Queen tribute band concert (Killer Queen) on Tuesday. No one can imitate Freddie and this "Freddie" was meh. But the Brian May guitarist...WOW. Looked like him and played like a champ. It was a crowd of gray hairs and "Freddie" kept trying to get us to stand up, whoop it up and clap on a Tuesday night. We ain't 20 anymore and it just wasn't working.
Posted by: Shipoopi at July 13, 2025 11:25 PM (t1uwd)
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Sting Joins Dire Straits for 'Money for Nothing'/i]
TBF, he did sing backup ("I want my, I want my MTV") on the studio recording.
TBF, he did sing backup ("I want my, I want my MTV") on the studio recording.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 13, 2025 11:25 PM (MLUJe)
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145 1 Have you considered… This blog is read world-wide. In Australia. In Israel. When it's night in the USA, it's mid-day elsewhere.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
My Colonial oath.
Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at July 13, 2025 11:21 PM (bgJ0E)
The world being Flat and all... you are all just being fooled by Big Clock!
Perhaps it's time to reconsider the "overnight" name of this post!
Don't want to be hemispherist, after all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)
My Colonial oath.
Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at July 13, 2025 11:21 PM (bgJ0E)
The world being Flat and all... you are all just being fooled by Big Clock!
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2025 11:25 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 13, 2025 11:25 PM (MLUJe)
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Evening, lat nighters,
Of course we would be kind to the lurkers! We want them to join us in our Color Revolution against . . . Well, we'll think of something. Just not right now.
As for yours truly, I am about to fall into bed. I've had a late snack so I won't be too hungry tomorrow morning; I cannot have anything to eat or drink after midnight in prep for my mild hernia surgery tomorrow. I've showered with the antiseptic they gave me, put on clean pjs and clean sheets, and set the alarm. Aside from that, it will all be up to the medical staff at the outpatient shop. Let us hope and pray they are sober and not going through personal tragedies!
Wish me luck tomorrow!
Of course we would be kind to the lurkers! We want them to join us in our Color Revolution against . . . Well, we'll think of something. Just not right now.
As for yours truly, I am about to fall into bed. I've had a late snack so I won't be too hungry tomorrow morning; I cannot have anything to eat or drink after midnight in prep for my mild hernia surgery tomorrow. I've showered with the antiseptic they gave me, put on clean pjs and clean sheets, and set the alarm. Aside from that, it will all be up to the medical staff at the outpatient shop. Let us hope and pray they are sober and not going through personal tragedies!
Wish me luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM (omVj0)
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I guess I drink too much!
When am I going to convince you to come to WA and say hello?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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lol it's funny, the last time I checked in today, your fwp was that you were sitting somewhere drinking and enjoying the view and you had to pee but you didn't want to get up!
I have so many places I need to go. Still waiting for the "right year" to hit some MoMe.
I guess I drink too much!
When am I going to convince you to come to WA and say hello?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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lol it's funny, the last time I checked in today, your fwp was that you were sitting somewhere drinking and enjoying the view and you had to pee but you didn't want to get up!
I have so many places I need to go. Still waiting for the "right year" to hit some MoMe.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (3ek7K)
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74 Good evening Horde. Thanks Dino and Piper!
Posted by: TRex has no Birkin budget at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (v/wGm)
Thanking yourself for my work?? LOL!
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:32 PM (rbUUk)
You are welcome!
Posted by: TRex has no Birkin budget at July 13, 2025 10:14 PM (v/wGm)
Thanking yourself for my work?? LOL!
Posted by: Doof at July 13, 2025 10:32 PM (rbUUk)
You are welcome!
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (p4NUW)
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I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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You just pee.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
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"Ain't No Place to Pee on Mardi Gras Day"
Posted by: nurse ratched
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You just pee.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
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"Ain't No Place to Pee on Mardi Gras Day"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:28 PM (omVj0)
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I have so many places I need to go. Still waiting for the "right year" to hit some MoMe.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (lCaJd)
The right year is this year, in texas.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (lCaJd)
The right year is this year, in texas.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 11:28 PM (snZF9)
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They're going to raise prices to the point no one can afford it. We in Illinois already struggle and Ameren wants price increases every year.
Electricity companies plot 142% bill hike despite increasing blackouts https://mol.im/a/14893697
Electricity companies plot 142% bill hike despite increasing blackouts https://mol.im/a/14893697
Posted by: Joyenz at July 13, 2025 11:28 PM (sPQoU)
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How do you respect a purse?
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025
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Only open the clasp once a year?
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025
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Only open the clasp once a year?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:28 PM (omVj0)
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Hiya, Nurse! Care to send some of that cool coastal air down south? It's hotter than Hades in southern Oregon.
Posted by: PabloD at July 13, 2025 11:29 PM (oyCAU)
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 11:30 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025 11:30 PM (3ek7K)
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How do you respect a purse?
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (3ek7K)
The craftsmanship, the design, the quality, how it has affected the fashion world, and this bag definitely has. It’s what other designers aspire to have happen to their brand, but no one has ever quite done it.
How do you respect a purse?
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025 11:27 PM (3ek7K)
The craftsmanship, the design, the quality, how it has affected the fashion world, and this bag definitely has. It’s what other designers aspire to have happen to their brand, but no one has ever quite done it.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 11:30 PM (p4NUW)
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Blonde,
Perhaps start with a smaller, less crazy meetup. Like the PNW one. Usually May. central WA.
Perhaps start with a smaller, less crazy meetup. Like the PNW one. Usually May. central WA.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:31 PM (gsJ4Q)
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How do you respect a purse?
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025
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Be sure to get explicit permission from it before you take the shoulder strap off for any reason.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 13, 2025
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Be sure to get explicit permission from it before you take the shoulder strap off for any reason.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:31 PM (omVj0)
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Wish me luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM (omVj0)
Best of luck, I will be praying for you and looking forward to the update everything went as planned and the entire even was boring!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM (omVj0)
Best of luck, I will be praying for you and looking forward to the update everything went as planned and the entire even was boring!
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 11:33 PM (p4NUW)
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Perhaps start with a smaller, less crazy meetup. Like the PNW one. Usually May. central WA.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Okay, I have a 10-month heads-up then. That should work.
Perhaps start with a smaller, less crazy meetup. Like the PNW one. Usually May. central WA.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Okay, I have a 10-month heads-up then. That should work.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:34 PM (lCaJd)
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I don't suppose you brought that dog to his headstone?
Posted by: gKWVE at July 13, 2025 10:37 PM (gKWVE)
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This was before I could walk - maybe before I was born. I only know it through stories told over drinks years later. Truth be told, I don't even know if he killed the dog or just wounded it.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 13, 2025 10:37 PM (gKWVE)
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This was before I could walk - maybe before I was born. I only know it through stories told over drinks years later. Truth be told, I don't even know if he killed the dog or just wounded it.
Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2025 11:34 PM (MxCkF)
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Good evening morons e grazie Disco
I was in Philadelphia the summer of 85 and was very put off by the crass commercialism. I was still a communist but after my time in the USSR, I had begun to develop what became a deep cynicism.
I was in Philadelphia the summer of 85 and was very put off by the crass commercialism. I was still a communist but after my time in the USSR, I had begun to develop what became a deep cynicism.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:35 PM (RIvkX)
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I do believe this was the day, six years ago, when the rainstorm flood -- on a street which had never flooded in decades -- trashed my '15 BMW 3 Series. I'd only had it for three months; hadn't even done my first oil change. The insurance company paid off properly and I wound up buying the current big red Buick, which is probably the best car I've ever had . . . but there are times when I miss the BMW.
On the other hand, the Buick takes regular instead of premium. I'd grit my teeth over that every time I filled up the BMW.
On the other hand, the Buick takes regular instead of premium. I'd grit my teeth over that every time I filled up the BMW.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:35 PM (omVj0)
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*crass commercialism of "Live Aid"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:35 PM (RIvkX)
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ISS undocking in the morning
Spacex/Axiom Space - Axiom-4 - Undocking International Space Station ISS
Undocking is scheduled (TBD) for July 14, 6:05 a.m. EDT, 1005 UTC, 12:05 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUQjrHDlyk
Spacex/Axiom Space - Axiom-4 - Undocking International Space Station ISS
Undocking is scheduled (TBD) for July 14, 6:05 a.m. EDT, 1005 UTC, 12:05 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUQjrHDlyk
Posted by: Joyenz at July 13, 2025 11:36 PM (sPQoU)
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Also, west Philly was still kind of smoldering.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:36 PM (RIvkX)
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and for some reason still unknown to me my photographic memory for music turned on me and out of nowhere I started playing the opening chords to fleetwood mac's Rhiannon. Moral of the story- in berserker world when the fleet mac appears out of nowhere, THAT is too much drinking.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 11:23 PM (snZF9)
Now that's some funny shit, yes it is.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 13, 2025 11:23 PM (snZF9)
Now that's some funny shit, yes it is.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 13, 2025 11:37 PM (dadcM)
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Wish me luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025
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Best of luck, I will be praying for you and looking forward to the update everything went as planned and the entire even was boring!
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025
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Thanks, Piper. I too hope it will wind up being boring, or at least uneventful and lacking in crises. Possibly my head will be clear enough by tomorrow evening to post and let everybody know I'm still drawing breath!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025
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Best of luck, I will be praying for you and looking forward to the update everything went as planned and the entire even was boring!
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025
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Thanks, Piper. I too hope it will wind up being boring, or at least uneventful and lacking in crises. Possibly my head will be clear enough by tomorrow evening to post and let everybody know I'm still drawing breath!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:37 PM (omVj0)
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Nurse Ratched: Is that pic from Discovery Park, ear the lighthouse?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 13, 2025 11:39 PM (MLUJe)
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Wish me luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM (omVj0
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Will say a prayer for you tomorrow Wolfus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM (omVj0
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Will say a prayer for you tomorrow Wolfus.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:39 PM (RIvkX)
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I love that Melania wore Chuck T's.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 13, 2025 11:40 PM (FFn+L)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:40 PM (WwQOw)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 13, 2025 11:40 PM (bss/y)
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Wasn't Hermes' bag situated right below his dick?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 11:41 PM (D91Jg)
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Wish me luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM
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Give 'em hell
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 11:26 PM
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Give 'em hell
Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2025 11:41 PM (lGyAR)
Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2025 11:41 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:42 PM (WwQOw)
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My favorite Queen song is they're 'opener to the world', so to speak, the first song off of their self-titled first album, 'Keep Yourself Alive'. What an opener.
Some bands you just know are going places.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 11:08 PM (gKDq2)
Wow, that's epic. Thanks, I need to down this boss and he's giving me trouble (How does he keep killing me?! He only has three times my hit points!). By the power of MUSIC!!!!
Some bands you just know are going places.
Posted by: RickZ at July 13, 2025 11:08 PM (gKDq2)
Wow, that's epic. Thanks, I need to down this boss and he's giving me trouble (How does he keep killing me?! He only has three times my hit points!). By the power of MUSIC!!!!
Posted by: pookysgirl doesn't take death well at July 13, 2025 11:45 PM (Wt5PA)
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De-lurking to say I replaced a bathroom vent this afternoon. The instructions said it could all be done from inside (instead of from above in the attic). Let’s just say they lied. It was quite hot in the attic — north Texas in July. I’m beat.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:46 PM (fveCG)
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Wolfus, write down any weird dreams you have.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 11:47 PM (pCKll)
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De-lurking to say I replaced a bathroom vent this afternoon. The instructions said it could all be done from inside (instead of from above in the attic). Let’s just say they lied. It was quite hot in the attic — north Texas in July. I’m beat.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:46 PM (fveCG)
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I pruned the geranium out front for 10 minutes. It was foggy, windy, 58 degrees. I'm beat too.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:46 PM (fveCG)
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I pruned the geranium out front for 10 minutes. It was foggy, windy, 58 degrees. I'm beat too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:48 PM (RIvkX)
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We live in a house that was built in 1907. The original owners did something with horses in Temple, Texas before they moved to Fort Worth. I don't know how they managed to stay undisturbed in the attic all those years, but when we moved into the house in 1985 and started doing renovations to items in the attic, Mr. TiFW ran across a LOT of paperwork in a couple of boxes that had fallen into the eaves somehow and had just been sitting there all that time.
LOTS of receipts from a feed store in Temple where the French family had bought cottonseed (or meal) to feed the livestock when they lived there. We even found a "gentleman's agreement" between Mr. French and AJ Tandy in 1897 for the sale of cattle at "x" dollars per head, all of them to be alive at the time of sale.
We have that one framed, along with all of the other items that could be salvaged.
LOTS of receipts from a feed store in Temple where the French family had bought cottonseed (or meal) to feed the livestock when they lived there. We even found a "gentleman's agreement" between Mr. French and AJ Tandy in 1897 for the sale of cattle at "x" dollars per head, all of them to be alive at the time of sale.
We have that one framed, along with all of the other items that could be salvaged.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 13, 2025 11:49 PM (SRRAx)
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Wish me luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Wolfus
May your surgeons' skills be optimal and everything go as well as MiladyJo's hernia surgery a month ago.
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Can't wake up and enjoy my morning coffee if I don't head for bed and get some z's. Also, my dreamscape awaits, with new weirdness every night. What is reality?
G'nite, y'all.
Posted by: Wolfus
May your surgeons' skills be optimal and everything go as well as MiladyJo's hernia surgery a month ago.
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Can't wake up and enjoy my morning coffee if I don't head for bed and get some z's. Also, my dreamscape awaits, with new weirdness every night. What is reality?
G'nite, y'all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - appreciating the medicine of modern miracles at July 13, 2025 11:50 PM (+kBwA)
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I pruned the geranium out front for 10 minutes. It was foggy, windy, 58 degrees. I'm beat too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
That sounds awesome.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
That sounds awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:52 PM (oAWcY)
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Electricity companies plot 142% bill hike despite increasing blackouts https://mol.im/a/14893697
Posted by: Joyenz
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Here in California, where we're doing our best to ignore every bit of common sense that's been learned about energy since the discovery of fire, I've stopped reading the rate-hike notices or even looking at my bill. There's nothing I can do except pay up.
Electricity companies plot 142% bill hike despite increasing blackouts https://mol.im/a/14893697
Posted by: Joyenz
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Here in California, where we're doing our best to ignore every bit of common sense that's been learned about energy since the discovery of fire, I've stopped reading the rate-hike notices or even looking at my bill. There's nothing I can do except pay up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:52 PM (lCaJd)
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G’night, Mindful. Sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2025 11:54 PM (77rzZ)
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I got my electric bill for the last two months. $68.00.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:54 PM (oAWcY)
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127 I watched it too. Looked like so much fun. That’s a LOT of people though. What do you do if you have to pee?
Posted by: nurse ratched
You just pee.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (cYBz/)
Not just a modern day concert venue problem.
https://tinyurl.com/5h6ubz4f
Posted by: nurse ratched
You just pee.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (cYBz/)
Not just a modern day concert venue problem.
https://tinyurl.com/5h6ubz4f
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 11:56 PM (R256O)
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They didn't use the f-word in that Money for Nothing video.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 11:57 PM (63Dwl)
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180 Ha!
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at July 13, 2025 11:59 PM (TwZXH)
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When I was quite young—7 or 8?—we were visiting Lake Michigan. My mom found a weathered stump of a tree washed up on the shore—driftwood at its finest. My mom (or maybe my older brothers) hauled it into the back of the station wagon and used it in her landscaping well into my adult years. I hope she didn’t break the law.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:59 PM (fveCG)
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I got my electric bill for the last two months. $68.00.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Jaw.
Desk.
And it's colder and wetter where you are.
I got my electric bill for the last two months. $68.00.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Jaw.
Desk.
And it's colder and wetter where you are.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:00 AM (lCaJd)
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168 Good evening morons e grazie Disco
I was in Philadelphia the summer of 85 and was very put off by the crass commercialism. I was still a communist but after my time in the USSR, I had begun to develop what became a deep cynicism.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:35 PM (RIvkX)
Yes, you can have nothing but disdain for the crass commercialism of a charity event.
I was in Philadelphia the summer of 85 and was very put off by the crass commercialism. I was still a communist but after my time in the USSR, I had begun to develop what became a deep cynicism.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:35 PM (RIvkX)
Yes, you can have nothing but disdain for the crass commercialism of a charity event.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:00 AM (R256O)
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Good night, everyone!
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 12:01 AM (p4NUW)
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That sounds awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:52 PM (oAWcY)
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It is incredibly satisfying.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 11:52 PM (oAWcY)
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It is incredibly satisfying.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 12:01 AM (RIvkX)
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LOL! “Ready to Flee NYC?” – Vivek Ramaswamy to Debut Billboard in Times Square Urging New Yorkers to Flee Zohran Mamdani and Move to Ohio
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Not that I live in Ohio, but that alone is good reason to vote for anybody else.
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Not that I live in Ohio, but that alone is good reason to vote for anybody else.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 14, 2025 12:02 AM (/lPRQ)
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Blonde,
It’s twice that in Dec-Jan. Still reasonable though. Most of our power is hydro. That’s why they want to tear down the dams. Can’t have anything affordable.
It’s twice that in Dec-Jan. Still reasonable though. Most of our power is hydro. That’s why they want to tear down the dams. Can’t have anything affordable.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 12:02 AM (FVv6s)
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To Liberty. Equally and Fraternity
It'd Bastille Day
It'd Bastille Day
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:04 AM (RqyMG)
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I pruned the geranium out front for 10 minutes. It was foggy, windy, 58 degrees. I'm beat too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:48 PM (RIvkX
I spent yesterday weeding the flowerbeds and vegetable garden. That zapped me, too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 11:48 PM (RIvkX
I spent yesterday weeding the flowerbeds and vegetable garden. That zapped me, too.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 12:05 AM (fveCG)
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G’night Piper. Sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:05 AM (77rzZ)
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Yes, you can have nothing but disdain for the crass commercialism of a charity event.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:00 AM (R256O)
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No not nothing. But for example, Bob Geldof's shameless self-promotion? Yes, disdain.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:00 AM (R256O)
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No not nothing. But for example, Bob Geldof's shameless self-promotion? Yes, disdain.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (FVv6s)
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The perfect screwdriver has been invented. There is a screwdriver that has surgical steel claws inside a Philips head driver. The idea is that the driver can't bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (mlg/3)
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Most of our power is hydro. That’s why they want to tear down the dams. Can’t have anything affordable.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Hilarious. They're shutting down the refineries where I am.
Most of our power is hydro. That’s why they want to tear down the dams. Can’t have anything affordable.
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Hilarious. They're shutting down the refineries where I am.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:08 AM (lCaJd)
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Perhaps start with a smaller, less crazy meetup. Like the PNW one. Usually May. central WA.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Okay, I have a 10-month heads-up then. That should work.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:34 PM (lCaJd)
Dear Lady, I am afraid that I simply must INSIST that you make arrangements to get to this year's Texas MoMe, because I wish to make your acquaintance, and I don't know if I will still be above ground when the 2026 Texas MoMe rolls around!
I've already beaten the original prognosis, so we're hoping everything will keep humming along, but ya just never know. So get thee to Corsicana, and help me celebrate my 65th birthday - which just so happens to be the day of the MoMe - in style. (You can also celebrate lin-duh's birthday that day, but she's just a young whippersnapper. Gotta give props to the old lady this year! 🤣🤣🤣
Perhaps start with a smaller, less crazy meetup. Like the PNW one. Usually May. central WA.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Okay, I have a 10-month heads-up then. That should work.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:34 PM (lCaJd)
Dear Lady, I am afraid that I simply must INSIST that you make arrangements to get to this year's Texas MoMe, because I wish to make your acquaintance, and I don't know if I will still be above ground when the 2026 Texas MoMe rolls around!
I've already beaten the original prognosis, so we're hoping everything will keep humming along, but ya just never know. So get thee to Corsicana, and help me celebrate my 65th birthday - which just so happens to be the day of the MoMe - in style. (You can also celebrate lin-duh's birthday that day, but she's just a young whippersnapper. Gotta give props to the old lady this year! 🤣🤣🤣
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 14, 2025 12:08 AM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Hilary and Old Lady Emhoff at July 14, 2025 12:11 AM (77rzZ)
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Off, Sock.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:13 AM (77rzZ)
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QED Texan, which part of N. Texas are you in?
And Scarlett O'Hara, good to see you again, too!
Both of you please keep commenting - we love having you here 😊♥️
And Scarlett O'Hara, good to see you again, too!
Both of you please keep commenting - we love having you here 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 14, 2025 12:13 AM (SRRAx)
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De-lurking to say I replaced a bathroom vent this afternoon. The instructions said it could all be done from inside (instead of from above in the attic). Let’s just say they lied. It was quite hot in the attic — north Texas in July. I’m beat.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:46 PM (fveCG)
Of course they lied. They always lie. They think you'll magically slide the new unit in and have it dock with the original ductwork like it was a frigging space station, and forgetting that you might just want to duct tape the connection which isn't happening from inside the bathroom. Then there's the wiring that you hope has enough slack and isn't stapled to a beam in the attic 12" away where you can't get to it from inside to pull slack JUST in case the hookup on the new unit is on the other side of where the original was. They always lie.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:46 PM (fveCG)
Of course they lied. They always lie. They think you'll magically slide the new unit in and have it dock with the original ductwork like it was a frigging space station, and forgetting that you might just want to duct tape the connection which isn't happening from inside the bathroom. Then there's the wiring that you hope has enough slack and isn't stapled to a beam in the attic 12" away where you can't get to it from inside to pull slack JUST in case the hookup on the new unit is on the other side of where the original was. They always lie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (snZF9)
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207 No not nothing. But for example, Bob Geldof's shameless self-promotion? Yes, disdain.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (RIvkX)
I will not begrudge you disdain for the narcissist involved, especially since about zero percent of the money actually came close to helping the cause for which it was intended, but I think chalking up the entire exercise to crass commercialism is not quite accurate.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (RIvkX)
I will not begrudge you disdain for the narcissist involved, especially since about zero percent of the money actually came close to helping the cause for which it was intended, but I think chalking up the entire exercise to crass commercialism is not quite accurate.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (R256O)
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Hey, Teresa. Keep fighting the good fight!
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (77rzZ)
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Hey Horde, I must say that Mondays are always so interesting during the Trump years, I actually look forward to them. Very nice ONT, Doof, and thank you, Piper, you add an awful lot to it.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 12:17 AM (0nHVk)
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218 Hey, DDS.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:19 AM (77rzZ)
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Hilarious. They're shutting down the refineries where I am.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:08 AM (lCaJd)
They're not shutting down the windfarms by me but they should. Waste of some of the best farmland in the world...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:08 AM (lCaJd)
They're not shutting down the windfarms by me but they should. Waste of some of the best farmland in the world...
Posted by: pookysgirl has opinions at July 14, 2025 12:19 AM (Wt5PA)
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The perfect screwdriver has been invented. There is a screwdriver that has surgical steel claws inside a Philips head driver. The idea is that the driver can't bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (mlg/3)
And its probably made by Snap-on.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 12:07 AM (mlg/3)
And its probably made by Snap-on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 12:19 AM (snZF9)
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Freddie played the piano like he was a rock climber. I assume 1 that he was self taught and 2 being self-taught was part of his success.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 14, 2025 12:20 AM (lhenN)
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....I think chalking up the entire exercise to crass commercialism is not quite accurate.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (R256O
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Yeah, well that's kind of my job around here.
*casually waves hand around in mild disgust*
Posted by: tankdemon at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (R256O
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Yeah, well that's kind of my job around here.
*casually waves hand around in mild disgust*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 14, 2025 12:21 AM (RIvkX)
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Hi, Pookysgirl. Hope you and Family Pooky are well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:21 AM (77rzZ)
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tachyons
arxiv.org/abs/2308.00450
arxiv.org/abs/2308.00450
Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2025 12:24 AM (gKWVE)
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A Rite-way cement truck. Was built in Ft. Wayne, IN. Worked for the company for a year or so.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 12:24 AM (g8Ew8)
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To Liberty. Equally and Fraternity
It'd Bastille Day
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:04 AM (RqyMG)
Off with their heads!
Okay, not yet.
But later. . . .
In high school, was going to see Foghat open for Mountain. I had a VW Squareback, so lots of people room, if not the coziest of seating accomodations. And OSHA or whoever hadn't mandated seatbelts in the backs of station wagon-type cars yet.
There was a group of us. Partying, naturally. Mostly drinking alkyhol from our separate bottles. We get to the arena parking lot, get out and I lock the car up. We start walking towards the turnstyles to have our tickets ripped in half and this one guy starts running toward the turnstyles screaming, 'I'VE STORMED THE BASTILLE'. He was drunk on his ass on straight gin out of his bottle. We looked at each other stunned. No, no, we don't know him (what we we going to do with him instantly in custody?) as they took him away to what we found out later to be the hospital he was so drunk. No one knew he was that bombed. Until he stormed the Bastille.
It'd Bastille Day
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:04 AM (RqyMG)
Off with their heads!
Okay, not yet.
But later. . . .
In high school, was going to see Foghat open for Mountain. I had a VW Squareback, so lots of people room, if not the coziest of seating accomodations. And OSHA or whoever hadn't mandated seatbelts in the backs of station wagon-type cars yet.
There was a group of us. Partying, naturally. Mostly drinking alkyhol from our separate bottles. We get to the arena parking lot, get out and I lock the car up. We start walking towards the turnstyles to have our tickets ripped in half and this one guy starts running toward the turnstyles screaming, 'I'VE STORMED THE BASTILLE'. He was drunk on his ass on straight gin out of his bottle. We looked at each other stunned. No, no, we don't know him (what we we going to do with him instantly in custody?) as they took him away to what we found out later to be the hospital he was so drunk. No one knew he was that bombed. Until he stormed the Bastille.
Posted by: RickZ at July 14, 2025 12:24 AM (gKDq2)
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Fished for two tides, pulled in 30 lovely Kasilof Red Salmon, now in process of brining, smoking, canning. If you do not attend the TXMoMe, you will miss these tasty treats. Just sayin'.
Two days ago I was up to my armpits in fish guts. Soon I will be up to my armpits in lovely jars of smoked salmon. Life is damned good.
Two days ago I was up to my armpits in fish guts. Soon I will be up to my armpits in lovely jars of smoked salmon. Life is damned good.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:25 AM (1Gsou)
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Salmon, smoked or otherwise, is wonderful. Nature’s perfect food.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:27 AM (77rzZ)
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Here in California, where we're doing our best to ignore every bit of common sense that's been learned about energy since the discovery of fire, I've stopped reading the rate-hike notices or even looking at my bill. There's nothing I can do except pay up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:52 PM (lCaJd)
Mine's been between $70-$100 since the beginning of the year. Used the AC a few times this month, so it will be a bit north of that range. Will be interesting to compare my first bills in Florida. I can't get out of here fast enough...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:52 PM (lCaJd)
Mine's been between $70-$100 since the beginning of the year. Used the AC a few times this month, so it will be a bit north of that range. Will be interesting to compare my first bills in Florida. I can't get out of here fast enough...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 12:27 AM (bA75n)
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Hi, Pookysgirl. Hope you and Family Pooky are well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:21 AM (77rzZ)
New med changes are a pain. But we survived my annual family reunion and no one went to the ER! (That is definitely not a guarantee when you have at least 10 kids/kids-at-heart with ADHD.)
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:21 AM (77rzZ)
New med changes are a pain. But we survived my annual family reunion and no one went to the ER! (That is definitely not a guarantee when you have at least 10 kids/kids-at-heart with ADHD.)
Posted by: pookysgirl knows a few ER docs at July 14, 2025 12:29 AM (Wt5PA)
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It's FART Tube time .... Let's Do it !!!⁸
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 14, 2025 12:29 AM (p+utQ)
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231 Good to hear, Pookysgirl!
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:30 AM (77rzZ)
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177 I love that Melania wore Chuck T's.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 13, 2025 11:40 PM (FFn+L)
You aren't really cool until you rock the Chuckies. But man, they really should have a bunch of scuffs on the white toes.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 13, 2025 11:40 PM (FFn+L)
You aren't really cool until you rock the Chuckies. But man, they really should have a bunch of scuffs on the white toes.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:31 AM (1Gsou)
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A yacht rock Sunday? Nice. Let's crack open the tequila, - margaritas all around!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 14, 2025 12:31 AM (/gTjv)
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Trump at the futbol game was a weird look. Seemed like he wanted to be anywhere else.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 12:31 AM (ImXfC)
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Of course they lied. They always lie. They think you'll magically slide the new unit in and have it dock with the original ductwork like it was a frigging space station, and forgetting that you might just want to duct tape the connection which isn't happening from inside the bathroom. Then there's the wiring that you hope has enough slack and isn't stapled to a beam in the attic 12" away where you can't get to it from inside to pull slack JUST in case the hookup on the new unit is on the other side of where the original was. They always lie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (snZF9)
You would have the best Heavy Metal Home Improvement show.
Who needs Bob Vila?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 12:15 AM (snZF9)
You would have the best Heavy Metal Home Improvement show.
Who needs Bob Vila?
Posted by: RickZ at July 14, 2025 12:33 AM (gKDq2)
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Well, today is the deadline for the fenti addicts to leave the house. They will be homeless again. But I've done all I can do for them, and they've taken advantage. Its not a happy ending, he needs dialysis 3x a week and has a port surgically cut into his chest that is easily infected, she is in love with no thought to her own future so she'll let him drag her down with him.
I can't find the words to explain how STUPID Fentanyl is, they need $30 a day just to avoid withdrawal sickness, the shock of which is so severe that it can actually kill them. So just to function normally they need a dose every days. Some of you know better than me - this has been a fools errand. They have not made a serious effort to quit, they'll probably be dead before September.
I can't find the words to explain how STUPID Fentanyl is, they need $30 a day just to avoid withdrawal sickness, the shock of which is so severe that it can actually kill them. So just to function normally they need a dose every days. Some of you know better than me - this has been a fools errand. They have not made a serious effort to quit, they'll probably be dead before September.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 12:34 AM (ciYHQ)
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Did i give them 3 months of life? Or did I just prolong the inevitable? Both I guess.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 12:38 AM (ciYHQ)
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Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 14, 2025 12:08 AM (SRRAx)
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Oh my goodness I'm feeling the pressure!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at July 14, 2025 12:08 AM (SRRAx)
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Oh my goodness I'm feeling the pressure!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 12:39 AM (lCaJd)
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tcn, I can't wait to meet you at the MoMe.
Hiya, Bulg, how are you doing?
I remember hubs working on some project and I was helping him out by getting necessary tools as requested, every once in a while he would ask me for the Wally. It was a hammer with a really short handle, good for working in tight spaces, he named it after a diminutive neighbor of ours, he was kind of like the mayor of Munchkin City.
Hiya, Bulg, how are you doing?
I remember hubs working on some project and I was helping him out by getting necessary tools as requested, every once in a while he would ask me for the Wally. It was a hammer with a really short handle, good for working in tight spaces, he named it after a diminutive neighbor of ours, he was kind of like the mayor of Munchkin City.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 12:41 AM (0nHVk)
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239 Did i give them 3 months of life? Or did I just prolong the inevitable? Both I guess.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 12:38 AM (ciYHQ)
Free will's a bitch, my friend. You gave them three months to decide their fate. They've made their choice. I'll throw in my prayers, for them and you..
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 12:38 AM (ciYHQ)
Free will's a bitch, my friend. You gave them three months to decide their fate. They've made their choice. I'll throw in my prayers, for them and you..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 12:41 AM (bA75n)
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OSINTdefender@sentdefender . 5h
At least 7 KC-135R “Stratotanker” Aerial-Refueling Tankers with the U.S. Air Force departed over the last few hours from Eielson and Elmendorf Air Force Bases in Alaska, heading west towards the Bering Sea and the Northern Pacific.
At least 7 KC-135R “Stratotanker” Aerial-Refueling Tankers with the U.S. Air Force departed over the last few hours from Eielson and Elmendorf Air Force Bases in Alaska, heading west towards the Bering Sea and the Northern Pacific.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:42 AM (wBe+K)
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241 DDS, I am OK, thanks. Just kind of lonely.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:43 AM (77rzZ)
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They have not made a serious effort to quit, they'll probably be dead before September.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 12:34 AM (ciYHQ)
Some people love the drugs more than they love life. There is not one damned thing you can do about it. Please don't feel guilty. It isn't worth the heartache.
I think it is rather like what God does when we die. We get whatever we love the most. So, if you have loved Jesus enough to keep His commandments, you will have Jesus and all will be well. If not, well, guess what? Not God's fault.
We are not God, but we do know we have to do the right things or face consequences. The addicts know this too. They just don't care.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 12:34 AM (ciYHQ)
Some people love the drugs more than they love life. There is not one damned thing you can do about it. Please don't feel guilty. It isn't worth the heartache.
I think it is rather like what God does when we die. We get whatever we love the most. So, if you have loved Jesus enough to keep His commandments, you will have Jesus and all will be well. If not, well, guess what? Not God's fault.
We are not God, but we do know we have to do the right things or face consequences. The addicts know this too. They just don't care.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:44 AM (1Gsou)
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At least 7 KC-135R “Stratotanker” Aerial-Refueling Tankers with the U.S. Air Force departed over the last few hours from Eielson and Elmendorf Air Force Bases in Alaska, heading west towards the Bering Sea and the Northern Pacific.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:42 AM (wBe+K)
I heard the ones leaving from Elmendorf. I couldn't say if this was a normal exercise or something to keep an eye on. What's up in Taiwan these days?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:42 AM (wBe+K)
I heard the ones leaving from Elmendorf. I couldn't say if this was a normal exercise or something to keep an eye on. What's up in Taiwan these days?
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:46 AM (1Gsou)
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A JIS screwdriver will drive Phillips screws just fine, but, as noted by Berserker-Dragonheads Division, the reverse is not true.
The Japanese are very good with that sort of subtle protectionism. I have no doubt that the Japanese standards organization that defined JIS also requires their use in products sold to any official groups.
US speakers don't require any protection.You overdrive it and melt the coil, BFD. The coils are usually hanging out on their own, or surround by fiberglass, so little danger of fire. However, any speaker sold in Japan must be fused, by a special fuse. Actually, the only thing special about it is the length - longer than an SAE. So, anyone wishing to sell speakers in Japan must use the special fuseholder. A standard metric or SAE fuseholder is too short. However, Japanese made speakers with the special fuse and fuseholder can be sold in the US, which has no requirements. Here's the good part: the Japanese fuseholder has a long enough spring, so that, if the fuse blows in the US, a standard SAE fuse will work.
Engineered to allow export, but discourge imports.
The Japanese are very good with that sort of subtle protectionism. I have no doubt that the Japanese standards organization that defined JIS also requires their use in products sold to any official groups.
US speakers don't require any protection.You overdrive it and melt the coil, BFD. The coils are usually hanging out on their own, or surround by fiberglass, so little danger of fire. However, any speaker sold in Japan must be fused, by a special fuse. Actually, the only thing special about it is the length - longer than an SAE. So, anyone wishing to sell speakers in Japan must use the special fuseholder. A standard metric or SAE fuseholder is too short. However, Japanese made speakers with the special fuse and fuseholder can be sold in the US, which has no requirements. Here's the good part: the Japanese fuseholder has a long enough spring, so that, if the fuse blows in the US, a standard SAE fuse will work.
Engineered to allow export, but discourge imports.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 14, 2025 12:48 AM (n3kHr)
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I heard the ones leaving from Elmendorf. I couldn't say if this was a normal exercise or something to keep an eye on. What's up in Taiwan these days?
Posted by: tcn in AK
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Xi rattling a saber?
Posted by: tcn in AK
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Xi rattling a saber?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:50 AM (wBe+K)
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The list of screws left out the Robertson, which is similar to but not quite the same as "square". Also, the 6 pointed type could be called Torx.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 14, 2025 12:50 AM (kCBPn)
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At least 7 KC-135R “Stratotanker” Aerial-Refueling Tankers with the U.S. Air Force departed over the last few hours from Eielson and Elmendorf Air Force Bases in Alaska, heading west towards the Bering Sea and the Northern Pacific.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:42 AM (wBe+K)
Seven?! Not good. These planes' schedules are stretched tighter than a C-17's. Don't get me wrong, I think the US should field far, far more than we currently have, but we have a small fleet.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:42 AM (wBe+K)
Seven?! Not good. These planes' schedules are stretched tighter than a C-17's. Don't get me wrong, I think the US should field far, far more than we currently have, but we have a small fleet.
Posted by: pookysgirl's husband used to work on a KC variant at July 14, 2025 12:52 AM (Wt5PA)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:52 AM (RqyMG)
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251 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:52 AM (RqyMG)
Maybe, but I just finished dinner....
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 12:52 AM (RqyMG)
Maybe, but I just finished dinner....
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:55 AM (1Gsou)
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A message from Japan to the tanker crew:
Bettei SPA HOTEL 1H2O@HOTEL_1H2O . 6m
#Love hotel next to #Yokota Air Base //
X-limited service 📢 \＼
If you tell the front desk ⑨ the keyword, we will give you a free meal or dessert. Please contact the front desk for details on the meal.
Valid from 4pm on Mondays to 4pm on Tuesdays
Bettei SPA HOTEL 1H2O@HOTEL_1H2O . 6m
#Love hotel next to #Yokota Air Base //
X-limited service 📢 \＼
If you tell the front desk ⑨ the keyword, we will give you a free meal or dessert. Please contact the front desk for details on the meal.
Valid from 4pm on Mondays to 4pm on Tuesdays
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:56 AM (wBe+K)
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 12:56 AM (wBe+K)
I don't want to know how many love hotels are next to Yakota. No, really, I don't want to know.
I don't want to know how many love hotels are next to Yakota. No, really, I don't want to know.
Posted by: pookysgirl has never needed to know these things at July 14, 2025 12:58 AM (Wt5PA)
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Bulg, I feel the loneliness too sometimes, just need to step outside of myself and try to help somebody else. I miss getting the Wally for my hubs.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 12:58 AM (0nHVk)
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Actually, the overuse of the word "iconic" is one of my pet peeves.
"Kate Moss breaks down her most iconic runway looks!"
"Most iconic" isn't even a thing properly speaking.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (lCaJd)
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One thing at a time. We still have to educate Alanis Morrisette as to what the word "ironic" means. She's having trouble.
Then we'll take on this "iconic" misuse, overuse, and the superlative adverb trap on a word already "allegedly" noting distinctive excellence.
IOW, the adverb "most" is improperly used because the word "iconic" is improperly used. Good grief, I'm turning into my 9th grade English teacher (although, she had a better moustache).
"Kate Moss breaks down her most iconic runway looks!"
"Most iconic" isn't even a thing properly speaking.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 11:09 PM (lCaJd)
______________________________
One thing at a time. We still have to educate Alanis Morrisette as to what the word "ironic" means. She's having trouble.
Then we'll take on this "iconic" misuse, overuse, and the superlative adverb trap on a word already "allegedly" noting distinctive excellence.
IOW, the adverb "most" is improperly used because the word "iconic" is improperly used. Good grief, I'm turning into my 9th grade English teacher (although, she had a better moustache).
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 12:58 AM (dIske)
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Time to hit the rack. Tomorrow is my next-to-last Monday. After the 25th, I got nuthin but Sundays...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 12:59 AM (bA75n)
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Goodnight, All. Everyone sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 12:59 AM (77rzZ)
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255 DDS, thank you for your response. God be with you.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 01:02 AM (77rzZ)
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Getting JIS screwdrivers changed my life. I have some Hondas. The work great for them
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 01:03 AM (WF/xn)
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QED Texan, which part of N. Texas are you in?
And Scarlett O'Hara, good to see you again, too!
Both of you please keep commenting - we love having you here 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas
North of Dallas.
And Scarlett O'Hara, good to see you again, too!
Both of you please keep commenting - we love having you here 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas
North of Dallas.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
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257 Time to hit the rack. Tomorrow is my next-to-last Monday. After the 25th, I got nuthin but Sundays...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 12:59 AM (bA75n)
OOOOweee. Ain't nothing like retirement, baby. Mondays are..... just days.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 14, 2025 12:59 AM (bA75n)
OOOOweee. Ain't nothing like retirement, baby. Mondays are..... just days.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (1Gsou)
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I meant, old Hondas. CT110 and a Passport 70
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (WF/xn)
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North of Dallas.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
A nice short drive from the MoMe.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
A nice short drive from the MoMe.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 01:05 AM (1Gsou)
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@zerohedge . 7h
Australia Rebuffs Trump As US Demands To Know What Allies Would Do In Taiwan War
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1. They were in on the 5 eyes thing against Trump.
2. China owns them.
Australia Rebuffs Trump As US Demands To Know What Allies Would Do In Taiwan War
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1. They were in on the 5 eyes thing against Trump.
2. China owns them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:07 AM (wBe+K)
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Posted by: QED Texan at July 13, 2025 11:46 PM (fveCG)
Of course they lied. They always lie. They think you'll magically slide the new unit in and have it dock with the original ductwork like it was a frigging space station, and forgetting that you might just want to duct tape the connection which isn't happening from inside the bathroom. Then there's the wiring that you hope has enough slack and isn't stapled to a beam in the attic 12" away where you can't get to it from inside to pull slack JUST in case the hookup on the new unit is on the other side of where the original was. They always lie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
And the old unit was screwed to the rafters from the attic side. And the ductwork—how exactly are you supposed to attach it and tape it from the bathroom side?
I will say it’s much quieter and pulls the moisture away quite nicely.
Of course they lied. They always lie. They think you'll magically slide the new unit in and have it dock with the original ductwork like it was a frigging space station, and forgetting that you might just want to duct tape the connection which isn't happening from inside the bathroom. Then there's the wiring that you hope has enough slack and isn't stapled to a beam in the attic 12" away where you can't get to it from inside to pull slack JUST in case the hookup on the new unit is on the other side of where the original was. They always lie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
And the old unit was screwed to the rafters from the attic side. And the ductwork—how exactly are you supposed to attach it and tape it from the bathroom side?
I will say it’s much quieter and pulls the moisture away quite nicely.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:08 AM (fveCG)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:09 AM (wBe+K)
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North of Dallas.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
A nice short drive from the MoMe.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Ha! Yes it is. 🙂
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
A nice short drive from the MoMe.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Ha! Yes it is. 🙂
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:09 AM (fveCG)
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You aren't really cool until you rock the Chuckies. But man, they really should have a bunch of scuffs on the white toes.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:31 AM
She probably doesn't have an "opportunity" to wear any one pair of shoes long enough for scuffing. She'll never know that Chucks aren't truly comfortable until they look like they were pulled out of a dumpster.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2025 12:31 AM
She probably doesn't have an "opportunity" to wear any one pair of shoes long enough for scuffing. She'll never know that Chucks aren't truly comfortable until they look like they were pulled out of a dumpster.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 14, 2025 01:10 AM (FFn+L)
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Thanks, TinFW, TX. I'm not sure I have the wit to add much on a regular basis, but I will certainly start trying.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 14, 2025 01:12 AM (FFn+L)
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What's up in Taiwan these days?
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So I have questions.
It was announced that President Trump was going to have a major statement to make about, I think Putin was specified, tomorrow. Presumably Ukraine related and why he's continuing to waste taxpayer dollars on the Deep State's pet project.
Is that a head fake for something else? Or is this report about the tankers a headfake (like the bombers going the long way to Iran)?
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So I have questions.
It was announced that President Trump was going to have a major statement to make about, I think Putin was specified, tomorrow. Presumably Ukraine related and why he's continuing to waste taxpayer dollars on the Deep State's pet project.
Is that a head fake for something else? Or is this report about the tankers a headfake (like the bombers going the long way to Iran)?
Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2025 01:12 AM (zLwRl)
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North of Dallas.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
You could be broke down south of dallas:
https://youtu.be/q3LK1Mt3CZA
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:04 AM (fveCG)
You could be broke down south of dallas:
https://youtu.be/q3LK1Mt3CZA
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:13 AM (D91Jg)
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You could be broke down south of dallas:
https://youtu.be/q3LK1Mt3CZA
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Ha. Thanks AOP.
https://youtu.be/q3LK1Mt3CZA
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Ha. Thanks AOP.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:15 AM (fveCG)
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Junior Brown is always a lot of fun.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:16 AM (D91Jg)
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Taking the idea from narco-subs the US Marines are developing stealth cargo supply vessels.
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Along the Sea Specter's 65-foot frame, its above-water profile ranges from a couple feet to mere inches. Its command and control system is produced by Sea Machines Robotics.
With a sensor mounted 8 feet above the deck, the ALPV can see about 5 to 7 miles in front of it, and can carry 5 tons for 2,300 nautical miles, traveling at 8 knots.
Tie-downs inside the boat are designed to hold pallets, so the vessels can be loaded down with ammunition, food, fuel, water, or anything else. - Defense News
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Along the Sea Specter's 65-foot frame, its above-water profile ranges from a couple feet to mere inches. Its command and control system is produced by Sea Machines Robotics.
With a sensor mounted 8 feet above the deck, the ALPV can see about 5 to 7 miles in front of it, and can carry 5 tons for 2,300 nautical miles, traveling at 8 knots.
Tie-downs inside the boat are designed to hold pallets, so the vessels can be loaded down with ammunition, food, fuel, water, or anything else. - Defense News
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:19 AM (wBe+K)
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I believe those tool definitions are right on target.
Posted by: Archer at July 14, 2025 01:19 AM (IDphi)
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Good night, everyone. I enjoyed de-lurking tonight.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 14, 2025 01:21 AM (fveCG)
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I believe those tool definitions are right on target.
Posted by: Archer at July 14, 2025 01:19 AM (
The slotted screw, my nemesis
Posted by: Archer at July 14, 2025 01:19 AM (
The slotted screw, my nemesis
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 01:24 AM (WF/xn)
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Reading the tea leaves Trump tried to have a good meeting of the minds with Putin and was rebuffed. Opinion is that Putin wants more than his fair share, as some said in the beginning, and isn't amenable to negotiation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:26 AM (wBe+K)
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I am going to hit the sack, too. I played hooky from working on my transmission overhaul today, and put away one dead engine, and began the teardown process on another. That engine, a six-cylinder Studebaker, is currently upside-down on a pair of 4X4's on the ground, head off. Cylinders rusted stuck. Plan is to remove the pan, pull all the bearing caps, and see if I can lift the crank out. Then see what can be done to remove the pistons. I have no particular use in mind for it, but if the engine proves to be rebuildable, it will get put away in storage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:30 AM (D91Jg)
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IOW, the adverb "most" is improperly used because the word "iconic" is improperly used. Good grief, I'm turning into my 9th grade English teacher (although, she had a better moustache).
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 12:58
AOS ONT...
come for the comradery and fun, stay for the grammer lessons. j/k Orson, I get it, agree.
Now just don't get me started on history, lol.
Posted by: Orson at July 14, 2025 12:58
AOS ONT...
come for the comradery and fun, stay for the grammer lessons. j/k Orson, I get it, agree.
Now just don't get me started on history, lol.
Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 14, 2025 01:31 AM (55Qr6)
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The slotted screw, my nemesis
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 01:24 AM (WF/xn)
The trick with slotted screwdrivers is on how you grind the screwdriver tip. Most screwdrivers you buy will have a tip that has perfectly parallel faces. Put that into a screw slot and turn, where does it engage? Only on the corners. Doesn't grip very well, and will readily cam out, buggering the screw slot in the process. Grind the faces into a shallow arc on each side, so that end-on, it looks like a double-convex lens.
Like this: () But not so extreme. Just a tetch thinner at the edges than in the middle. Put that in the screw slot and turn, and it grips on the flanks of the curve, and makes contact with the slot over a much wider span. It really makes a remarkable improvement. Just a few seconds on the wheel of a bench grinder can turn a crappy screwdriver into much better tool. It's ridiculously easy to do.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 01:24 AM (WF/xn)
The trick with slotted screwdrivers is on how you grind the screwdriver tip. Most screwdrivers you buy will have a tip that has perfectly parallel faces. Put that into a screw slot and turn, where does it engage? Only on the corners. Doesn't grip very well, and will readily cam out, buggering the screw slot in the process. Grind the faces into a shallow arc on each side, so that end-on, it looks like a double-convex lens.
Like this: () But not so extreme. Just a tetch thinner at the edges than in the middle. Put that in the screw slot and turn, and it grips on the flanks of the curve, and makes contact with the slot over a much wider span. It really makes a remarkable improvement. Just a few seconds on the wheel of a bench grinder can turn a crappy screwdriver into much better tool. It's ridiculously easy to do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:43 AM (D91Jg)
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OS 26 adds new Communication Safety tools to protect users, especially kids. It now:
-Detects nudity in FaceTime, freezing video/audio and showing a warning with options to continue or end the call.
-Blurs explicit content in Shared Albums
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In touch with Apple Support the other day and in conversation she said up date Version 26 will turn your phone wrong side out.
It will be completely different.
(Those words are my interpretation)
But she did say that from my current opinion of ios updates that I wouldn't like it.
-Detects nudity in FaceTime, freezing video/audio and showing a warning with options to continue or end the call.
-Blurs explicit content in Shared Albums
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In touch with Apple Support the other day and in conversation she said up date Version 26 will turn your phone wrong side out.
It will be completely different.
(Those words are my interpretation)
But she did say that from my current opinion of ios updates that I wouldn't like it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:45 AM (wBe+K)
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I am going to hit the sack, too. I played hooky from working on my transmission overhaul today, and put away one dead engine, and began the teardown process on another. That engine, a six-cylinder Studebaker, is currently upside-down on a pair of 4X4's on the ground, head off. Cylinders rusted stuck. Plan is to remove the pan, pull all the bearing caps, and see if I can lift the crank out. Then see what can be done to remove the pistons. I have no particular use in mind for it, but if the engine proves to be rebuildable, it will get put away in storage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:30
Tomorrow I plan wake up and make sure I'm alive.
You are an inspiration AOP. Wishing you a great Bastille Day. You can execute some metal and I shall execute some weeds.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:30
Tomorrow I plan wake up and make sure I'm alive.
You are an inspiration AOP. Wishing you a great Bastille Day. You can execute some metal and I shall execute some weeds.
Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 14, 2025 01:45 AM (55Qr6)
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Opinion is that Putin wants more than his fair share, as some said in the beginning, and isn't amenable to negotiation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:26 AM (wBe+K)
Putin: "We win, they lose."
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:26 AM (wBe+K)
Putin: "We win, they lose."
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan at July 14, 2025 01:46 AM (kuWOS)
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Syria getting hot. Clashes in north (Kurds) and apparent regime offensive in south (Druze). Kurdish issue might be serious as other groups will take heed if Damascus retreats on federalism pledges. Israel likely to intervene in south if regime doesn't back off. In addition to the pretty unsavory types spearheading regime effort in south (ISIS patches on some), it's alleged regime is renting bedouin muscle to harass the Druze.
Pretty standard stuff for that "country", really, but still.
Pretty standard stuff for that "country", really, but still.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2025 01:50 AM (1m82a)
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Make swamps great again.
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DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has just revealed 5 MORE "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ" facilities may be coming soon.
YES, build these nationwide. They are using Florida as a model.
"I'm having ongoing conversations with five other governors about facilities that they may have."
"We're looking at other locations as well. We've had several other states that are actually using Alligator Alcatraz as a model for how they can partner with us as well.
"We need to double our capacity and detention beds because we need to facilitate getting people out of this country as fast as possible and to sustain our operations."
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DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has just revealed 5 MORE "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ" facilities may be coming soon.
YES, build these nationwide. They are using Florida as a model.
"I'm having ongoing conversations with five other governors about facilities that they may have."
"We're looking at other locations as well. We've had several other states that are actually using Alligator Alcatraz as a model for how they can partner with us as well.
"We need to double our capacity and detention beds because we need to facilitate getting people out of this country as fast as possible and to sustain our operations."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:51 AM (wBe+K)
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Can't tell which regime is which.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2025 01:52 AM (wBe+K)
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If you mean Syria, regime = Damascus interim govt., which US/west is helping (removing sanctions etc) probably in an effort to see if the dodgy interim prez can hold the thing together.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2025 01:56 AM (1m82a)
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Good night, Horde, I am very sleepy.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 01:56 AM (0nHVk)
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DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has just revealed 5 MORE "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ" facilities may be coming soon.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Good lord, they're actually following a successful, low-cost model with minimal environmental impact that can be disassembled when it's no longer needed? YOU CALL THIS GOVERNMENT??
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has just revealed 5 MORE "ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ" facilities may be coming soon.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Good lord, they're actually following a successful, low-cost model with minimal environmental impact that can be disassembled when it's no longer needed? YOU CALL THIS GOVERNMENT??
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:04 AM (xp7+v)
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Thanks AOP
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 14, 2025 02:06 AM (WF/xn)
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Morticia, I'm wondering if they'll set up a detention center on Pendleton. Makes sense. CA has no say, place has abundant cheap labor (lol) and experience in setting up expedient facilities. For both the '75 and '78 Vietnamese refugee situations (remember, back when "refugee" actually meant what it means) Pendleton was a major holding facility. I'm sure Uncle Sam's Misguided Children can quickly get the job done if given the order.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2025 02:15 AM (1m82a)
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Oh, and of course Pendleton has airfields and can support all kinds of aviation. Namely DHS Airlines, where all trips are one-way.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2025 02:16 AM (1m82a)
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Ho-lee, Pendleton of course. Oh hell that's hilarious, right in Gavin's front yard. Border Patrol right there on the 5 just alongside Pendleton to contribute any strays (I can't imagine anyone is crashing the border in the trunk of a car anymore, but that post is there for a reason). The Coast Guard, which has been picking up boatloads of them off Point Loma, could drop them off at an improvised detention center for transportation up the freeway.
Perfect!
Ho-lee, Pendleton of course. Oh hell that's hilarious, right in Gavin's front yard. Border Patrol right there on the 5 just alongside Pendleton to contribute any strays (I can't imagine anyone is crashing the border in the trunk of a car anymore, but that post is there for a reason). The Coast Guard, which has been picking up boatloads of them off Point Loma, could drop them off at an improvised detention center for transportation up the freeway.
Perfect!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 14, 2025 02:30 AM (xp7+v)
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Like this: () But not so extreme. Just a tetch thinner at the edges than in the middle. Put that in the screw slot and turn, and it grips on the flanks of the curve, and makes contact with the slot over a much wider span. It really makes a remarkable improvement. Just a few seconds on the wheel of a bench grinder can turn a crappy screwdriver into much better tool. It's ridiculously easy to do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:43 AM (D91Jg)
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Horde crowdtips. Thanks! Why don't they make them like that in the first place???
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 01:43 AM (D91Jg)
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Horde crowdtips. Thanks! Why don't they make them like that in the first place???
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 02:42 AM (3447G)
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Cheaper to make noncurved surfaces?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 14, 2025 03:13 AM (/HDaX)
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I understand there was a church shooting in Lexington KY yesterday. Now I understand why:
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Philistines upon you, America! Believe me, I know.
https://tinyurl.com/3cwh238y
Philistines upon you, America! Believe me, I know.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2025 03:29 AM (3447G)
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I am home and can't wait to get to bed
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 03:44 AM (+qU29)
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Clean and in bed. Hopefully a decent sleep and French Toast for breakfast
Have a great Bastille day everyone
Have a great Bastille day everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2025 04:01 AM (+qU29)
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Howdy, to anyone still here.
Ah, tonight was a real zinger. Sibling was drunk and unruly... had to 'cut him off' and wait for him to sober up before telling him to leave. I just can't even, with this sh!t.
Dear Lord, do I not have enough problems? Why do I feel as though I'm being punished here on earth, these last few years?
Ah, tonight was a real zinger. Sibling was drunk and unruly... had to 'cut him off' and wait for him to sober up before telling him to leave. I just can't even, with this sh!t.
Dear Lord, do I not have enough problems? Why do I feel as though I'm being punished here on earth, these last few years?
Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2025 04:21 AM (rdVOm)
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Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at July 14, 2025 04:30 AM (aURVT)
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Pretty! This has been a really wonderful article. Many thanks for providing this information.
Posted by: skincare routine at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (uPXU7)
Gun Thread: Vacation Edition Number Dos!
FUNdamentals Mas Ayoob and the wedge grip. Any of you guys 'n gals use this style? Is it a part of your fundamentals?
Smith & Wesson Model 10 Weasel hearts the Model 10.
Barrel Wear
They do wear out, you know.
Atomic Effects on Drone Aircraft Flight through atomic clouds is not recommended. Yes, it's fun, but probably not smart. If everyone flew through an atomic cloud, would you?
The Bone
Think You Have It Bad? Q: Weasel, what was life like in a medieval castle?
A: See below. I wish you guys and gals focused on fundamentals as much as you do on life in medieval castles.
Our Pal Plutonium
Highway Patrol!
This week's exciting episode: Father Thief
The Snow Creature! Is this a repeat? I sort of think it's a repeat.
While in DC over the Fourth, I took Daughter of Diogenes Number One and my son-in-law to dinner at Morton's (a fantastic steakhouse) in Reston. The food was fantastic, the wine excellent, and as always, the company was perfect. It's not often I get to sync up with Team Diogenes and I savor those moments. Like any good steakhouse, Morton's has a cigar menu. I selected the P.G. (Paul Garmirian) Gourmet Series Churchill. What followed was a reminder that smoking a cigar can often be influenced by where you smoke it, and under what conditions. The cigar itself was a medium strength (although I thought it a bit on the mild side) with a balance of spicey flavors of pepper and cinnamon, mellowed by a background of leather. Together they produced a wonderful tobacco aroma. The cigar was made in the Dom Rep using a variety of fillers with an Ecuadorian wrapper. A smooth smoke, even ash, an easy draw and, as mentioned, the aroma. Wow!!! Which leads me to my point at the start. Where you smoke is important. I got to DC for the last few days of the 'Heat Dome' and it was hot, humid, and just plain uncomfortable. But these are sometimes ideal conditions for a good cigar. The smoke just seems to linger, to float about and it is like seeing the humidity in the air. I find this really enhances the smoking experience. I was not in a fancy cigar room (I was outside on the deck) but damned if it just felt right, particularly when paired with some Glenmorangie single malt. In short, if you gotta suffer in that kind of weather, do it in a way that makes it worth it. Price warning; these ain't cheap, but not obscene either so if you want to treat yourself, don't buy any lattes for a few days. It will be worth it and you will thank me later. (Note: I bought two; one for after dinner and one, as shown, for the golf course.) (Note 2: Like my hat?)Excellent, Diogenes! I agree, a good cigar and a balmy location go great together! Thank you! P.S. LOVE the hat!
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Nicks Cigar World New! A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
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BANG!!!! fIRST
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:00 PM (0XVad)
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Gubbs..
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 07:00 PM (lPvx2)
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Two weeks of vacation? Now that’s just rubbing it in.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:01 PM (qEeiR)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:01 PM (BCwQW)
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Let me get this straight, your taking a vacation from your retirement?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Plutonium is not our pal. Y'all can trust me on this.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
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Diogenes, it’s time like this that I wish I smoked cigars more than once a decade.
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (qEeiR)
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Weasel, Hope you are all enjoying the vacation. When you get back, and take on the heavy lifting of retirement, I sent an email for your perusal.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 07:07 PM (yTvNw)
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No gun-thread worthy activity to report. I was outside, on the tractor, slinging dead engines around. Dead 350 from the '99 Suburban got placed on a rolling SBC cradle, and put into the big shop, where it can be pushed into a corner to mellow. Out of the weather, at any rate.
The dead 170 that came from the Zip van got picked up, placed on a barrel, and teardown begun.
The dead 170 that came from the Zip van got picked up, placed on a barrel, and teardown begun.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:07 PM (joBNx)
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No range report. Just doing my best on not purchasing the scope or anything else for my next rifle.
I am also in the process of renewing my handgun license and rifle/shotgun permit for NYC.
Currently they are set to expire near the end of August 2025.
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
I am also in the process of renewing my handgun license and rifle/shotgun permit for NYC.
Currently they are set to expire near the end of August 2025.
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (0XVad)
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Let me get this straight, your taking a vacation from your retirement?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (rAX2y)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:11 PM (IKydn)
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Scoob, I think GWB just farted in your general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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return to my rigorous retirement schedule
I fully expect some organic tree farming videos, Weasel!
(Maybe this time with tannerite?)
I fully expect some organic tree farming videos, Weasel!
(Maybe this time with tannerite?)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (IKydn)
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On the Range Report side, I managed to tighten up my wobbly shit, loosen my socks, and get some good ladder testing done on Alliant 4350 and 12O grain Sierra 120 6.5 Creedmoor.
The Alliant is definitely not as powerful as the Hodgdon, but I’ve got 3 more pounds of it and a truckload of 120s.
And they are all running around 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I think I’ll take the best load up top and see how it does in the wind.
The Alliant is definitely not as powerful as the Hodgdon, but I’ve got 3 more pounds of it and a truckload of 120s.
And they are all running around 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I think I’ll take the best load up top and see how it does in the wind.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (qEeiR)
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Good evening gun threaders and all the ships at sea. Lots of doings with the blaster fam this week including a big usb power bank falling on my laptop and making the screen unusable. So from my phone this week.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:13 PM (RoO7G)
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11 Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM
Dunno, did not realize how tiring retirement can be.
Waiting until 2028 to see myself. :-)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM
Dunno, did not realize how tiring retirement can be.
Waiting until 2028 to see myself. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:13 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 07:13 PM (mT+6a)
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(Maybe this time with tannerite?)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (IKydn)
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No, fire and pine trees do not mix.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (IKydn)
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No, fire and pine trees do not mix.
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM (rAX2y)
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Diogenes, great cigar review. Have never heard of that brand. Will investigate.
Think about it - premium cigars are most famous from Cuba, and after Castro even more from the DR, Nicaragua, Honduras. Climate in all these places? Tends towards the hot and humid. So your experience makes sense.
Burning an AJ Fernandez Enclave Broadleaf now, on yet another perfect summer day here - breeze, low humidity, marine influence, sunny in low 80s.
Think about it - premium cigars are most famous from Cuba, and after Castro even more from the DR, Nicaragua, Honduras. Climate in all these places? Tends towards the hot and humid. So your experience makes sense.
Burning an AJ Fernandez Enclave Broadleaf now, on yet another perfect summer day here - breeze, low humidity, marine influence, sunny in low 80s.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM (1m82a)
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14 Scoob, I think GWB just farted in your general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM
You trying to stir up trouble there RMBS?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM
You trying to stir up trouble there RMBS?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM (0XVad)
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Good evening good people.
Yearly weapons qualification for Parish Security Team was held this week. This year the set up was a bit different than from years earlier - a couple drills with movement and one or two with mag dumps, reloads and then resume firing.
Three guys earned remedial training - two of them had NDs with the third missing the broad side of a barn repeatedly.
RSO NOT happy.
A bit scary honestly.
Yearly weapons qualification for Parish Security Team was held this week. This year the set up was a bit different than from years earlier - a couple drills with movement and one or two with mag dumps, reloads and then resume firing.
Three guys earned remedial training - two of them had NDs with the third missing the broad side of a barn repeatedly.
RSO NOT happy.
A bit scary honestly.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (cYBz/)
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Currently they are set to expire near the end of August 2025.
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (0XVad)
If the renewals are pending, can you continue to keep your guns in NYC?
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (0XVad)
If the renewals are pending, can you continue to keep your guns in NYC?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (joBNx)
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Have I been to the range? Is water wet? Is the pope American?
Good evening and thanks again for the thread, weasel!
Good evening and thanks again for the thread, weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (0XVad)
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No cigar stuff to report, but I am sipping on a PBR.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:16 PM (joBNx)
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Let me get this straight, your taking a vacation from your retirement?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (rAX2y)
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It's about naps. If you're still getting in the morning, mid morning, noon, mid afternoon and evening nap, then, you're good.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (rAX2y)
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It's about naps. If you're still getting in the morning, mid morning, noon, mid afternoon and evening nap, then, you're good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:16 PM (tT6L1)
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Weasel, what does the inestimable Mrs. Weasel Woman think about your retirement?
Mrs. Red finds many more things to put on my honeydo list. Although she encourages range time to get me out of the house.
Mrs. Red finds many more things to put on my honeydo list. Although she encourages range time to get me out of the house.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM (qEeiR)
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Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM (rAX2y)
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‘ What followed was a reminder that smoking a cigar can often be influenced by where you smoke it, and under what conditions’
One of the best cigars I ever had was a DR monte no 2 bought in 7-11. Not even close to a great cigar. But I smoked it on the shore of a lake on a perfect night with a decent scotch and a European supermodel leaned up against me. Not joking. The cigar was not great. Nor was the scotch. But the experience? Unforgettable.
One of the best cigars I ever had was a DR monte no 2 bought in 7-11. Not even close to a great cigar. But I smoked it on the shore of a lake on a perfect night with a decent scotch and a European supermodel leaned up against me. Not joking. The cigar was not great. Nor was the scotch. But the experience? Unforgettable.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 07:19 PM (t+Wsp)
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24 If the renewals are pending, can you continue to keep your guns in NYC?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM
I think so. They say I will not be penalized if I do not receive my license by the expiration date.
So I am keeping my fingers crossed and keeping the speed limit. ;-)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM
I think so. They say I will not be penalized if I do not receive my license by the expiration date.
So I am keeping my fingers crossed and keeping the speed limit. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:19 PM (0XVad)
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Hi everybody
No gun news. I have not had a good week in general but here to see who had some fun and I can live vicariously.
Blake, my library informs me they have ordered the new Galbraith book for me and I am second on the wait list on 13 copies!
No gun news. I have not had a good week in general but here to see who had some fun and I can live vicariously.
Blake, my library informs me they have ordered the new Galbraith book for me and I am second on the wait list on 13 copies!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM (qEeiR)
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She's been pretty cool about it! Not expecting any trouble, mostly due to the fact I have spent the last 20+ years keeping expectations low.
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She's been pretty cool about it! Not expecting any trouble, mostly due to the fact I have spent the last 20+ years keeping expectations low.
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (rAX2y)
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So, this weekend, I took a break from the 6.5-06 and decided to finish load development for the 30-06. It appears I have succeeded in my mission, will put the finishing touches on my loads and hit the practice range.
Hopefully, we get some decent weather for the 1,000 yard match.
The final results of my load tests were interesting. It never ceases to amaze me how a small change in a load can open a group beyond acceptable accuracy.
Hopefully, we get some decent weather for the 1,000 yard match.
The final results of my load tests were interesting. It never ceases to amaze me how a small change in a load can open a group beyond acceptable accuracy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (tT6L1)
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30 Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM
Nice!! Just don't start making calls to former co-workers or dropping in to see how they are doing. ;-)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM
Nice!! Just don't start making calls to former co-workers or dropping in to see how they are doing. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)
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Scoobs.
What part of “Shall not be infringed” did they miss?
Never mind. I lived in NYS from age 7 to 18.
What part of “Shall not be infringed” did they miss?
Never mind. I lived in NYS from age 7 to 18.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (qEeiR)
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If everyone flew through an atomic cloud, would you?
No. For the same reason I don't drink to drunk. I want to be able to remember what stupid things all the other people have done and be able to tell the stories to others later.
No. For the same reason I don't drink to drunk. I want to be able to remember what stupid things all the other people have done and be able to tell the stories to others later.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:23 PM (IKydn)
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Blake, my library informs me they have ordered the new Galbraith book for me and I am second on the wait list on 13 copies!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:23 PM (tT6L1)
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Nice!! Just don't start making calls to former co-workers or dropping in to see how they are doing. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)
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Yep. Stick with the basics, texting selfies lounging on the deck with a cigar and a nice glass of bourbon in hand.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)
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Yep. Stick with the basics, texting selfies lounging on the deck with a cigar and a nice glass of bourbon in hand.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:24 PM (tT6L1)
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One of the most ... impactful things I ever saw in a simulator was in the B-1 Offensive Systems Operator (OSO) position. On the bombing run, the bay doors indicator went from CLOSED to OPEN. the "bay" indicator went from FULL to PARTIAL, and the bay doors indicator went from OPEN to CLOSED. Then the electronic map blanked and reset with the next target. And 1 million people had just become so many constituent atoms. Blink, blink, blink, blink and poof.
(Yes, I hate using that word, too, but it happens to work in this one instance.)
(Yes, I hate using that word, too, but it happens to work in this one instance.)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:26 PM (IKydn)
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That clip of Highway Patrol - notice the sound of the car doors slamming. Not a solid close like today's vehicles. More like a tin can. No wonder we all threw them as hard as we could. Well that, and the fact that they weighed 4 and a half tons.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 07:26 PM (cYBz/)
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Elric I think a Backwoods and some grocery store brand scotch suffice if the company is what you describe.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:27 PM (1m82a)
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“keeping expectations low.”
Thanks, Weasel. I think I’ve found my new motto.
Thanks, Weasel. I think I’ve found my new motto.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (+EVjX)
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I have been trying to justify a lever gun for a bit. I mean, it's very Merican and all that but it's caliber sprawl and I don't really NEED one.
Well.
I was visiting blaster acres and thinking: I do own a ranch. And cows graze on that property. THAT MAKES ME A COWBOY.
And lever guns are cowboy guns amirite?
So I got one of these.
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Well.
I was visiting blaster acres and thinking: I do own a ranch. And cows graze on that property. THAT MAKES ME A COWBOY.
And lever guns are cowboy guns amirite?
So I got one of these.
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (RoO7G)
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Plutonium is not our pal. Y'all can trust me on this.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
It wasn't the plutonium that made our scout troop chaplain a near cripple. It was the lithium that he soaked in once. Yes, he was a submariner.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
It wasn't the plutonium that made our scout troop chaplain a near cripple. It was the lithium that he soaked in once. Yes, he was a submariner.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (IKydn)
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Acquired my shiny new Ruger SP101 in 9mm yesterday. Ordered and purchased through the local L&M Fleet Store, got it for a couple hundred below the manufacturers recommended price. Haven't had a chance yet to shoot it yet, hope to be able to submit a range report next gun thread.
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 07:30 PM (i0F8b)
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You trying to stir up trouble there RMBS?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM
*shifty eyes*
No...why...what have you heard?
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM
*shifty eyes*
No...why...what have you heard?
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (Wnv9h)
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Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel
Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Weasel
Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (cYBz/)
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And they are all running around 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I think I’ll take the best load up top and see how it does in the wind.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (qEeiR)
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How fast are you pushing the bullets?
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (qEeiR)
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How fast are you pushing the bullets?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (tT6L1)
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Here is a question.
So I have the rifle and scope selected for my next build.
I am going to purchase the rings for the scope from a place that has the Weasel seal of approval (logo pending).
I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
So I have the rifle and scope selected for my next build.
I am going to purchase the rings for the scope from a place that has the Weasel seal of approval (logo pending).
I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (0XVad)
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I never have adult beverages when burning because it’s always afternoon. With the longer days I should move some burns to after dinner so I can try some rums bourbons and ryes with my dried fermented hand-rolled blac tobacco leaf thinggies.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:32 PM (1m82a)
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Also - we went to the range! I will have to do a write up about the whole thing but we went to Campion Defense LLC in Swansea, SC. Which is about 15 miles from my mother's house.
She's going to be getting a lot more visits!
She's going to be getting a lot more visits!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:32 PM (RoO7G)
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Having satisfied, more or less, the required practice of fundamentals for my range day, I decided to have a bit of fun. I had a case of expired canned dog food and a bunch of .357 magnum loads, and so what the heck! I set up the cans on posts with the top of the cans facing me and let her rip. Boy, howdy, them cans get splody when a .357 hollow point hits them! Beef and lamb puree all over the place. I policed up what was left of the cans and left the former contents for the critters to snack on. Fun times.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at July 13, 2025 07:32 PM (VJ4mQ)
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37 Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM
It is obvious they just do not recognize the word "not". That is their go to for anything gun related.
It is obvious they just do not recognize the word "not". That is their go to for anything gun related.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:34 PM (0XVad)
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Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
I look forward to out discussion in Texas. (-:
Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
I look forward to out discussion in Texas. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:34 PM (t/2Uw)
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Took the .32 ACP Walther PPK to the range this weekend for a test drive at an FBI qualification target. The PPK's sights make the pistol marginal at best for bullseye shooting. I wanted to try it on a (roughly) man sized target to see how it would do at 10 yards. I managed to get the majority of the shots in the center target box. I also tried a couple of magazines one-handed at 10 yards. About half my shots hit inside the center target box shooting one-handed. The other half outside the box hit fairly close to it. Shooting .32 ACP with one hand produces mild recoil that's easily (for me, anyway) controlled.
Helena Handbasket, what do you think about putting this on the beginner's table at TX?
Helena Handbasket, what do you think about putting this on the beginner's table at TX?
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:34 PM (BCwQW)
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I'm envious, Weasel. I have not found it so easy to walk away from the grind and go talk to the trees.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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I got a new Sig P365 and am signing up for a CCL class next month. The magazine springs are ridiculously hard and I purchased a loader to help out. I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (agbau)
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*Champion Defense
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (RoO7G)
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Blake, I’m only up to 2713 at the top, but with best accuracy. The book tells me I’m over the limit, but it also says I should be running 2900.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (+EVjX)
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I'm envious, Weasel. I have not found it so easy to walk away from the grind and go talk to the trees.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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I was initially worried I'd regret the decision. Not so much!
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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I was initially worried I'd regret the decision. Not so much!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:37 PM (rAX2y)
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blaster,
I have a Henry lever action .22 rifle.
It’s prolly my favorite long gun. Nice cherry wood, not heavy, simple and a great plinking gun.
I have a Henry lever action .22 rifle.
It’s prolly my favorite long gun. Nice cherry wood, not heavy, simple and a great plinking gun.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 07:37 PM (mT+6a)
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9mikemike SP101? Whoa I really am out of touch with the market. Good thing, the oil wells aren’t producing like they used to. Could easily drop big $$ with all the toys out there now. Even them Turkish semi-autos are available here now.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:37 PM (1m82a)
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"The Snow Creature" is more a punishment than a bonus. It proves that Brother Billy got all the talent in the Wilder family.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 13, 2025 07:38 PM (CHHv1)
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Yes Windbag, those mags are hard to load. The last two of twelve I struggle too. I'll keep looking to see if I accidentally picked up a 10 round mag.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:40 PM (vFG9F)
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I've been looking at the new Henry Supreme lever action with a 10 rd mag. Trying to talk the range into buying one for me to try out. Would be nice to be able to rent and i think I would get a discount as a member even though they would have to send it to my local gun store in MD.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)
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Blake, I’m only up to 2713 at the top, but with best accuracy. The book tells me I’m over the limit, but it also says I should be running 2900.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (+EVjX)
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Interesting. Lapua brass, I assume? You need to stick those 120's on top of a necked down 06 cartridge, You'll have those bad boys screaming out of the barrel @ 3,100 fps.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (+EVjX)
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Interesting. Lapua brass, I assume? You need to stick those 120's on top of a necked down 06 cartridge, You'll have those bad boys screaming out of the barrel @ 3,100 fps.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
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Hard to believe, but one of the locations that Henry rifles are made is in Bayonne, New Jersey which is right across the bridge from where I live.
I do wonder how long before they are hounded out of the State.
I do wonder how long before they are hounded out of the State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:43 PM (0XVad)
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I got a new Sig P365 and am signing up for a CCL class next month. The magazine springs are ridiculously hard and I purchased a loader to help out. I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (agbau)
You might want to get some more magazines. Magazines are an expendable item for any semi-auto pistol, so getting spares is in order. Yes, the springs can be stiff. That's because the springs' tension is what feeds fresh rounds into the chamber. If a magazine is giving you problems you can't handle, don't be afraid to replace it with another one.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (agbau)
You might want to get some more magazines. Magazines are an expendable item for any semi-auto pistol, so getting spares is in order. Yes, the springs can be stiff. That's because the springs' tension is what feeds fresh rounds into the chamber. If a magazine is giving you problems you can't handle, don't be afraid to replace it with another one.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)
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Uberti 1866 repro is only lever gun so far, but an older Rossi in .357 remains a goal. 1866 is in 45 Colt, not historically accurate but easy to reload and perfect for silhouette matches.
Plus I can do part of my upper body resistance workout with the rifle between shots, it weighs a crap ton. And recoil is nothing.
Plus I can do part of my upper body resistance workout with the rifle between shots, it weighs a crap ton. And recoil is nothing.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (1m82a)
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So I got one of these.
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Posted by: blaster
Linky no worky
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Posted by: blaster
Linky no worky
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (/lPRQ)
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No, no shooting stuff this week. I did get my a/c fixed today, finally. And I went to a casino this week - took my wife and son and daughter-in-law to a show. It was somewhat troublesome to have to leave my EDC in the car.
It was also a pretty lame casino, IMO. And I don't particularly like casinos. But the show was pretty good (the wife's favorite comedian).
It was also a pretty lame casino, IMO. And I don't particularly like casinos. But the show was pretty good (the wife's favorite comedian).
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (IKydn)
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Good evening y'all, back from another parental trip in Pittsburgh. No range time, but that will be remedied this week. Instead, since I returned home alone, I decided to test just how fast my little car can go without collecting any unexpected paperwork from cars with lights on top. And the little car did just fine....
Posted by: The Grateful at July 13, 2025 07:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Champion has a rifle range that goes out to 600 yards but for reasons we could only shoot out to the 400 yard targets.
I brought sra blasters Howa 1500 to Florida so we could go to a long range - but the one in Florida did not allow non-members on the long rifle range. Champion was like pay us money and we will let you shoot. $30 pp for a day pass 5% off for veterans and active military and first responders.
We had zeroed at 100 earlier so we we shot 200 yards first. Ding ding the steel rings.
Then we go to 300....
I brought sra blasters Howa 1500 to Florida so we could go to a long range - but the one in Florida did not allow non-members on the long rifle range. Champion was like pay us money and we will let you shoot. $30 pp for a day pass 5% off for veterans and active military and first responders.
We had zeroed at 100 earlier so we we shot 200 yards first. Ding ding the steel rings.
Then we go to 300....
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:45 PM (RoO7G)
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I do wonder how long before they are hounded out of the State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:43 PM (0XVad)
I understand they're already planning to move to WI because of the politics in NJ.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:43 PM (0XVad)
I understand they're already planning to move to WI because of the politics in NJ.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:45 PM (BCwQW)
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Scoob, I think GWB just farted in your general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
LOL! That was supposed to be a squib.
Which is a gun fart, I guess.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
LOL! That was supposed to be a squib.
Which is a gun fart, I guess.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:46 PM (IKydn)
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Diogenes, it’s time like this that I wish I smoked cigars more than once a decade.
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (qEeiR)
RI Red,
First round is on me!
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (qEeiR)
RI Red,
First round is on me!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 07:46 PM (W/lyH)
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I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Can you disassemble the mag? Definitely sounds like some kind of mechanical flaw.
Can you disassemble the mag? Definitely sounds like some kind of mechanical flaw.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 07:46 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (t/2Uw)
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I've had a model 10 Heavy Bbl for 15 years, an amazing gun.
Posted by: UnkleSteve at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (f/KOq)
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:48 PM (RoO7G)
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Re Sig P365 and mags.
Yes. They are tight. Almost impossible to load. At first.
Load and load unload ten times it will be better.
Yes. They are tight. Almost impossible to load. At first.
Load and load unload ten times it will be better.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:49 PM (RoO7G)
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Decided to beat the upcoming suppressor shortage by buying two now, a .22 rimfire and a .223 model. The dealer had an electronic kiosk in the shop, but the one employee trained on it had quit the day before. Hope to get my forms submitted this week.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2025 07:49 PM (WoXYL)
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Selling some 54R to another RO at the club. Back when it was cheap (this is Bulgarian surplus) I stacked it high and can easily spare it. Will pay for more 45 and 30 carbine bullets, which thanks to resumed production at the bench are nearly out. Will also cover some new electronic muffs I just got.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:50 PM (1m82a)
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I've had a model 10 Heavy Bbl for 15 years, an amazing gun.
Posted by: UnkleSteve at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (f/KOq)
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*fistbump* and welcome!
Posted by: UnkleSteve at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (f/KOq)
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*fistbump* and welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:52 PM (rAX2y)
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I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
As Weasel said to me, unless you're running around in the woods in weather, get steel. I went with standard height.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
As Weasel said to me, unless you're running around in the woods in weather, get steel. I went with standard height.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)
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Sportsman's Warehouse has Sig P365 XL with a red dot on sale. I got a spare. Clerk told me it was the fourth one he had sold that day and it was only noon.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2025 07:55 PM (WoXYL)
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Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:50 PM (1m82a)
Imported ammo (of any caliber) will, if it isn't already, be a casualty of the ongoing tariff wars until those wars are over. Even then, I think the supply of imported ammo will probably stay limited until the war in Ukraine gets settled.
Imported ammo (of any caliber) will, if it isn't already, be a casualty of the ongoing tariff wars until those wars are over. Even then, I think the supply of imported ammo will probably stay limited until the war in Ukraine gets settled.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:56 PM (BCwQW)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 13, 2025 07:56 PM (uGaBv)
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Back to Champion Defense. We moved to 300 yards and we just kept shooting and shooting and shooting and couldn't hit the dang thing.
Aside: friends, if you go shooting after listening to weasel tell you how to shoot right but you forget to do the stuff he told you to do, do you think you will get the results he says you will? Asking for a friend.
So, anyway, a good spotter makes all the difference. I packed the rifle but not our spotting scope so we picked up a little 10x monocular at Walmart because better than nothing. A guy two lanes over had a nice rifle set up with a big scope. He said "you're shooting too low". Need to come up (he guessed) about 2 MOA. Okay. 8 clicks.
Boom. Ding! sra blaster gets behind the rifle. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding!
We were shooting 3 rounds at a time.
So then to 400 yards.
Aside: friends, if you go shooting after listening to weasel tell you how to shoot right but you forget to do the stuff he told you to do, do you think you will get the results he says you will? Asking for a friend.
So, anyway, a good spotter makes all the difference. I packed the rifle but not our spotting scope so we picked up a little 10x monocular at Walmart because better than nothing. A guy two lanes over had a nice rifle set up with a big scope. He said "you're shooting too low". Need to come up (he guessed) about 2 MOA. Okay. 8 clicks.
Boom. Ding! sra blaster gets behind the rifle. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding!
We were shooting 3 rounds at a time.
So then to 400 yards.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:57 PM (RoO7G)
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@ RI Red, I just checked the load data I use for the 6.5-06. Interestingly enough, the speed I'm getting lines up with the load data pretty well.
However, with the 30.06, I'm definitely running faster than the load data says I should.
However, with the 30.06, I'm definitely running faster than the load data says I should.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:58 PM (tT6L1)
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Blaster - agreed. A good spotter makes all the difference.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:01 PM (ZbDxc)
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Ed L I think most of my 54R came out of Ukraine, and several of my Mosins - they have the scuba-like flag cartouche in the stocks. Little box with a diagonal line in it. I remember when that party really got started (2014, not 2022) there was a break in the flow of imports - and was easy to find pics of Uke “militia” types with Mosins.
I think the Bulgarian and Romanian stocks are played out, but noticed currently there’s a bunch of Czech surplus on the market.
I think the Bulgarian and Romanian stocks are played out, but noticed currently there’s a bunch of Czech surplus on the market.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:03 PM (1m82a)
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Aside: if you are reminded to do the things that weasel says to do, and you do them, are you more likely to get positive shooting results? Asking for a friend.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:05 PM (RoO7G)
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While in the army, my dad worked on the West range of Fort Huachuca on drones. These were prop based drones of about 20 or so feet long launched with JATO units.They were the first to put a TV camera (it weighed just over 100 pounds) in a drone.
On one Armed Forces Day, they drove the launcher onto a field about 20 yards in front of the public bleachers, sprung up the prop and launched it with the JATO units.
On one Armed Forces Day, they drove the launcher onto a field about 20 yards in front of the public bleachers, sprung up the prop and launched it with the JATO units.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 08:05 PM (GITLP)
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Oh, the cartouche I mentioned indicates the rifles were “re-arsenaled” at the Soviet facility in He Ukrainian SSR.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:05 PM (1m82a)
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Blaster, ballistics tables are your friend.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
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Top 100?
On vaycay in central New Hampshire visiting relatives so no shewtin. Going to have to reload a bunch to make the Cowboy shoot the Sunday we get back, though.
Have a great week everyone and thank you to Weasel!
On vaycay in central New Hampshire visiting relatives so no shewtin. Going to have to reload a bunch to make the Cowboy shoot the Sunday we get back, though.
Have a great week everyone and thank you to Weasel!
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 13, 2025 08:07 PM (VWFmc)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 13, 2025 08:07 PM (2yoRf)
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SMOD, that’s an awesome kind of demo (JATO thing) from the time men were men, and ‘merica, eff yeah was the cultural norm!
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:08 PM (1m82a)
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We are outside. Mid day in July in SC. The sun is...bright.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:08 PM (RoO7G)
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My retirement contract specifies 45 vacation days per year. Been using the wedge grip for over 20 years. Has worked well especially with compact carry pistols.
Posted by: KDKong at July 13, 2025 08:09 PM (Bc40B)
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98 Blaster, ballistics tables are your friend.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
If only weasel had told me this earlier!
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
If only weasel had told me this earlier!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (RoO7G)
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Hey, Weasel, I'm late to the game as always. Congratulations on retirement and vacation. Taking Daughter #2 to the range soon to start getting her properly equipped for her new apartment on the other side of the tracks.
Posted by: JSpicy at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (C7Yya)
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Blaster, ballistics tables are your friend.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
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heh. Yeah, I have to go out and get some new data for the 3.06 on the 500 meter range. It's always something.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
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heh. Yeah, I have to go out and get some new data for the 3.06 on the 500 meter range. It's always something.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (tT6L1)
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85 Selling some 54R to another RO at the club. Back when it was cheap (this is Bulgarian surplus) I stacked it high and can easily spare it. Will pay for more 45 and 30 carbine bullets, which thanks to resumed production at the bench are nearly out. Will also cover some new electronic muffs I just got.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Berry Bullets did have some plated 30 Carbine awhile back. Those kind of fit in the middle of as lead is usually a pita for cleaning in gas operated carbines but the plated usually have pedestrian accuracy in rifles (deform more easily from pressure) than fmj, or half jacketed types.
This week has been all about cleaning up and my reloading station and gun parts are all sorted. Still have some work to do on gun boxes, etc.
If I am lucky, I will be able to get back into repairing/finishing the couple of projects that I have left. One is finishing an 1886/93 Lebel, another is restocking a Lithgow SMLE converted to 410. I will probably have the chamber lengthened on the 410 so as to fire regular 410 shells instead of the midget and hard to get ones.
That particular task will go to a gunsmith.
Found a bunch of magazines for ARs and M1 Carbines too
Posted by: rhomboid
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Berry Bullets did have some plated 30 Carbine awhile back. Those kind of fit in the middle of as lead is usually a pita for cleaning in gas operated carbines but the plated usually have pedestrian accuracy in rifles (deform more easily from pressure) than fmj, or half jacketed types.
This week has been all about cleaning up and my reloading station and gun parts are all sorted. Still have some work to do on gun boxes, etc.
If I am lucky, I will be able to get back into repairing/finishing the couple of projects that I have left. One is finishing an 1886/93 Lebel, another is restocking a Lithgow SMLE converted to 410. I will probably have the chamber lengthened on the 410 so as to fire regular 410 shells instead of the midget and hard to get ones.
That particular task will go to a gunsmith.
Found a bunch of magazines for ARs and M1 Carbines too
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:11 PM (ctrM5)
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We were in the bay with ourselves and we could shoot at the same time which was cool.
And Sra blaster got to try out some of her John Wick CAR technique. Which was also cool.
We had a great time. Spent over 3 hours there we definitely got our moneys worth!
And Sra blaster got to try out some of her John Wick CAR technique. Which was also cool.
We had a great time. Spent over 3 hours there we definitely got our moneys worth!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:12 PM (RoO7G)
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A lot of things really surprised me about Champion Defense, but the main thing was that it was not crowded. If it was in the DC area it probably would have a year waiting list.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:14 PM (RoO7G)
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Posted by: JSpicy at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (C7Yya)
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Nice, brother! Please let us know how it goes!!
Posted by: JSpicy at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (C7Yya)
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Nice, brother! Please let us know how it goes!!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (rAX2y)
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Hey Morons.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (xcxpd)
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Range report this week: The frickin' flood at our property "rearranged" some of my gun range equipment and the shooting stand.
I built it at an elevation just below the 100 year flood contour. The water is usually fairly placid when it floods to that elevation. However, things that float did get moved!
It was merely a flesh-wound though, all is easily fixable.
I built it at an elevation just below the 100 year flood contour. The water is usually fairly placid when it floods to that elevation. However, things that float did get moved!
It was merely a flesh-wound though, all is easily fixable.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (HlyYF)
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Had a fun conversation at the local gun range yesterday. Another CA expat has moved to our area. Obviously a man of taste and discernment because he promptly became a member of our local range.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (tT6L1)
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whig I am eyeing the plated 30C bullets as they’re 30% cheaper than FMJ. As I aspire only to practical accuracy (minute-of-human-torso @150yds), it’s tempting to cheap out. Online research seems to show most guys find the plated to have good performance in the little M1.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:17 PM (tmGxn)
Posted by: Rancherbob at July 13, 2025 08:17 PM (cQ2Ty)
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Re grip, I have always used a wedge grip. I am not trying to get gilt edge target accuracy which is also why I use a crush tight hold as well (well, nowadays semi crush is about all I can do).
The wedge grip allows for use on a variety of pistol types and is excellent from the point of weapons retention. And it can be consistently applied to smaller as well as larger pistols. I used a S&W 6946 as an understudy to my 5946/43/44 Third Generation and it worked fine for DAO only. One of the tricks to shooting revolvers and/or DA/SA or DAO with 8lb + triggers is the crush hold with a wedge grip.
Not crazy about the wedge/crush on a 1911 but since I shoot that rarely, doesn't matter much. Works okay on the smaller BHP.
The wedge grip allows for use on a variety of pistol types and is excellent from the point of weapons retention. And it can be consistently applied to smaller as well as larger pistols. I used a S&W 6946 as an understudy to my 5946/43/44 Third Generation and it worked fine for DAO only. One of the tricks to shooting revolvers and/or DA/SA or DAO with 8lb + triggers is the crush hold with a wedge grip.
Not crazy about the wedge/crush on a 1911 but since I shoot that rarely, doesn't matter much. Works okay on the smaller BHP.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:18 PM (ctrM5)
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Plutonium bars, 3 for a dollar!
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 08:19 PM (EE2rW)
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Blaster - agreed. A good spotter makes all the difference.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:01 PM
Red, you'll be pleased to hear that my buddy who was with us in NH has been certified for the use of his club's long distance range, and is determined to come to TX next year "come hell or high water". I think we have a Moron, here.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:01 PM
Red, you'll be pleased to hear that my buddy who was with us in NH has been certified for the use of his club's long distance range, and is determined to come to TX next year "come hell or high water". I think we have a Moron, here.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
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I do need some expert advice for shooting at the next TXMoMe.
If I am shooting at the 1,000 yard steel with y'all, and using a 16" battleship gun, how close to the target do I need to actually place my shot to make the steel ring?
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
If I am shooting at the 1,000 yard steel with y'all, and using a 16" battleship gun, how close to the target do I need to actually place my shot to make the steel ring?
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (HlyYF)
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114 whig I am eyeing the plated 30C bullets as they’re 30% cheaper than FMJ. As I aspire only to practical accuracy (minute-of-human-torso @150yds), it’s tempting to cheap out. Online research seems to show most guys find the plated to have good performance in the little M1.
Posted by: rhomboid
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The M1 is on the borderline as far as pressure deformation. FWIW, Lee Reloading Manuals actually has an excellent section dealing with bullet deformation due to pressure so you can tailor reduced loads to work with cast bullets (it is adjacent to the bullet casting chapter). Your groups open up at the point of the bullet base becoming deformed from pressure and Lee's formula cuts down on the trial and error of finding a good cast load. Would probably work on plated as well with mebbe a tweak.
You notice the deformation effects a bit more with 7.62x39 reloads as the pressure is a tad higher on those.
Posted by: rhomboid
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The M1 is on the borderline as far as pressure deformation. FWIW, Lee Reloading Manuals actually has an excellent section dealing with bullet deformation due to pressure so you can tailor reduced loads to work with cast bullets (it is adjacent to the bullet casting chapter). Your groups open up at the point of the bullet base becoming deformed from pressure and Lee's formula cuts down on the trial and error of finding a good cast load. Would probably work on plated as well with mebbe a tweak.
You notice the deformation effects a bit more with 7.62x39 reloads as the pressure is a tad higher on those.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ctrM5)
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and several of my Mosins - they have the scuba-like flag cartouche in the stocks.
That's an arsenal refinished mark.
That's an arsenal refinished mark.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 08:22 PM (EE2rW)
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Howdy, Rancherbob!
Please do NOT read my comment at #119.
(Unless you were planning on putting in a few more water tanks for your cattle.)
Please do NOT read my comment at #119.
(Unless you were planning on putting in a few more water tanks for your cattle.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:23 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:23 PM (rAX2y)
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Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:12 PM (RoO7G)
Sounds like you enjoyed yourselves. Planning on stopping by there again?
Sounds like you enjoyed yourselves. Planning on stopping by there again?
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 08:24 PM (BCwQW)
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Mark,
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
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111 Hey Morons.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, what are you carrying currently?
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, what are you carrying currently?
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Dang it, just got the dinner bell.
Will have to come back later to get the latest gub happenings with you Morons.
Will have to come back later to get the latest gub happenings with you Morons.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (HlyYF)
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102 We are outside. Mid day in July in SC. The sun is...bright.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
Posted by: blaster
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Green dot? I think Leupold used an amber chevron on theirs.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
Posted by: blaster
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Green dot? I think Leupold used an amber chevron on theirs.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (ctrM5)
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OK, I know it's early and all, but I had a long 3 days, with a long two weeks before that (with the a/c out). I'm going to take a break before the ONT, then read that and to bed.
Thanks, Weasel, for the thread!
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Thanks, Weasel, for the thread!
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 08:27 PM (IKydn)
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Sounds like you enjoyed yourselves. Planning on stopping by there again?
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 08:24 PM (BCwQW)
Definitely. Can't get there enough to make membership pencil out but a $30 day pass is a bargain!
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 08:24 PM (BCwQW)
Definitely. Can't get there enough to make membership pencil out but a $30 day pass is a bargain!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:28 PM (RoO7G)
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95 Aside: if you are reminded to do the things that weasel says to do, and you do them, are you more likely to get positive shooting results? Asking for a friend.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Posted by: blaster
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Go hunting. Humbling for most folks. Another is long range 100-150 yd with a 22 LR. That is a cheap way to challenge oneself on an outdoor range. Past 50yds, you end up getting extended bullet drop and you have to read wind just like from long shots from a centerfire.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Posted by: blaster
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Go hunting. Humbling for most folks. Another is long range 100-150 yd with a 22 LR. That is a cheap way to challenge oneself on an outdoor range. Past 50yds, you end up getting extended bullet drop and you have to read wind just like from long shots from a centerfire.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:29 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:30 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thanks, Weasel, for the thread!
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Posted by: GWB
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Well, I can entertain myself I guess. LOL, have a good week GWB.
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Posted by: GWB
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Well, I can entertain myself I guess. LOL, have a good week GWB.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:30 PM (ctrM5)
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I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
How big is the objective of your chosen scope?
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
How big is the objective of your chosen scope?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:31 PM (0sNs1)
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Green dot? I think Leupold used an amber chevron on theirs.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (ctrM5)
I don't think the issue was the color necessarily. My EDC has an Sig Romeo 0 and I did not adjust it from my regular brightness and it was visible enough.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (ctrM5)
I don't think the issue was the color necessarily. My EDC has an Sig Romeo 0 and I did not adjust it from my regular brightness and it was visible enough.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:31 PM (RoO7G)
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Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Why have I always pictured you surrounded by a personal security detail and lots of hot women?
;-)
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Why have I always pictured you surrounded by a personal security detail and lots of hot women?
;-)
Posted by: ShainS at July 13, 2025 08:32 PM (E2cCq)
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If I am shooting at the 1,000 yard steel with y'all, and using a 16" battleship gun, how close to the target do I need to actually place my shot to make the steel ring?
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM
What charge are you planning on using? (Don't answer, because I once posted the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun, and was excoriated roundly for that.)
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM
What charge are you planning on using? (Don't answer, because I once posted the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun, and was excoriated roundly for that.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)
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Imported ammo (of any caliber) will, if it isn't already, be a casualty of the ongoing tariff wars until those wars are over. Even then, I think the supply of imported ammo will probably stay limited until the war in Ukraine gets settled.
Posted by: Ed L
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Not seeing increase in prices much because I suspect demand is down due to Trump admin and less worry about big gubmint taking guns away.
From my usual suppliers, I am get loads of emailed specials, etc. of ammo that is about on par with the 1st Trump administration prices.
Then again, I don't use old military surplus ammo either if I can at all help it.
Apex Gun Parts has some WWII era German ammo and I think mebbe some Turkish/Greek ammo as well in 8mmx57 Mauser if people are interested.
Posted by: Ed L
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Not seeing increase in prices much because I suspect demand is down due to Trump admin and less worry about big gubmint taking guns away.
From my usual suppliers, I am get loads of emailed specials, etc. of ammo that is about on par with the 1st Trump administration prices.
Then again, I don't use old military surplus ammo either if I can at all help it.
Apex Gun Parts has some WWII era German ammo and I think mebbe some Turkish/Greek ammo as well in 8mmx57 Mauser if people are interested.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:35 PM (ctrM5)
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What charge are you planning on using? (Don't answer, because I once posted the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun, and was excoriated roundly for that.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)
What do you expect mathing willy-nilly on the blog like that?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)
What do you expect mathing willy-nilly on the blog like that?
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:36 PM (RoO7G)
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Steel @ 1,000 yards with a 16" inch naval rifle? I think the muzzle blast alone would be sufficient to take care of the plate, at that distance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:36 PM (tT6L1)
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Why have I always pictured you surrounded by a personal security detail and lots of hot women?
;-)
Posted by: ShainS
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I have A Hot woman but she doesn't like to share one bit and is an excellent shot to boot. Both her mother and father were duck hunters par excellence. And he was a helluva shot on all things military or for deer hunting etc.
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
;-)
Posted by: ShainS
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I have A Hot woman but she doesn't like to share one bit and is an excellent shot to boot. Both her mother and father were duck hunters par excellence. And he was a helluva shot on all things military or for deer hunting etc.
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
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Red, you'll be pleased to hear that my buddy who was with us in NH has been certified for the use of his club's long distance range, and is determined to come to TX next year "come hell or high water". I think we have a Moron, here.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
Well, I hope so! We got him out well over 800. He’ll probably surpass us soon.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
Well, I hope so! We got him out well over 800. He’ll probably surpass us soon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:38 PM (z1SIt)
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I got a new Sig P365 and am signing up for a CCL class next month. The magazine springs are ridiculously hard and I purchased a loader to help out. I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Hopefully you got a Maglula Uplula. You should be able to load them with that. Load it up, and let the mag sit for 2 to 4 weeks. That will ease it a bit.
Hopefully you got a Maglula Uplula. You should be able to load them with that. Load it up, and let the mag sit for 2 to 4 weeks. That will ease it a bit.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:39 PM (0sNs1)
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Well, I hope so! We got him out well over 800. He’ll probably surpass us soon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:38 PM
Good advice and good spotting do wonders. Imagine what some instruction in the Way of the Weasel could do.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:38 PM
Good advice and good spotting do wonders. Imagine what some instruction in the Way of the Weasel could do.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:40 PM (Wnv9h)
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I don't think the issue was the color necessarily. My EDC has an Sig Romeo 0 and I did not adjust it from my regular brightness and it was visible enough.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: blaster
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Ah, I see. I did read where some people had more trouble with red dots than other colors in direct sunlight but it is an individual by individual thing.
I have red dots (and one prismatic on the AR10) on a few of my rifles but none on handguns.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: blaster
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Ah, I see. I did read where some people had more trouble with red dots than other colors in direct sunlight but it is an individual by individual thing.
I have red dots (and one prismatic on the AR10) on a few of my rifles but none on handguns.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:40 PM (ctrM5)
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When purchasing a Maglula Uplula, purchase it from a local store or reputable Internet dealer, if necessary. There are fakes on eBay and the 'Zon, and they don't work nearly as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:42 PM (0sNs1)
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Blaster I’m up to 4 lever guns.
My first was a Marlin 45-70 CS - extra long barrel and an 8 round magazine. Heck of a gun for large critters. Weighs about 12 pounds with scope. Second was a Marlin in .35 Remington. Third is a Henry Big Boy in .44 and it’s become my go-to deer gun with Hornady lever gun ammo. Last is an Uberti in .45 Colt for the Cowboy shoots. All are great to use and far more accurate than I am.
My first was a Marlin 45-70 CS - extra long barrel and an 8 round magazine. Heck of a gun for large critters. Weighs about 12 pounds with scope. Second was a Marlin in .35 Remington. Third is a Henry Big Boy in .44 and it’s become my go-to deer gun with Hornady lever gun ammo. Last is an Uberti in .45 Colt for the Cowboy shoots. All are great to use and far more accurate than I am.
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 13, 2025 08:42 PM (3Aazl)
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The lever gun I ordered is in .357. Because I know it will lead to a revolver companion.
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (RoO7G)
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Running at about 150 comments, and NOONE have commented on the big change this week.
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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146 When purchasing a Maglula Uplula, purchase it from a local store or reputable Internet dealer, if necessary. There are fakes on eBay and the 'Zon, and they don't work nearly as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Good advice.
While cleaning my reloading/gun room today, I found an AR clip spoon for reloading AR magazines on clips (like they used to come with back in the day).
Another spoon still had the clip inside the spoon.
Your hands can get sore pretty quickly without mechanical assistance on loading magazines and range time is too expensive for most of us to do it at the range.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Good advice.
While cleaning my reloading/gun room today, I found an AR clip spoon for reloading AR magazines on clips (like they used to come with back in the day).
Another spoon still had the clip inside the spoon.
Your hands can get sore pretty quickly without mechanical assistance on loading magazines and range time is too expensive for most of us to do it at the range.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (ctrM5)
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Blaster, what Whig said about shooting .22 at 200 + yards. Very humbling, and is a good stand in for larger calibers at longer range.
Plus, it is very gratifying to hear a tiny little “tink” when you get a hit. Though it takes several seconds and you need to turn your hearing aids up a bit.
Plus, it is very gratifying to hear a tiny little “tink” when you get a hit. Though it takes several seconds and you need to turn your hearing aids up a bit.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (z1SIt)
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125 Mark,
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
I WANT a G19 sized .45 so badly. (This is a recent desire, I realize)
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
I WANT a G19 sized .45 so badly. (This is a recent desire, I realize)
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:48 PM (xcxpd)
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have = having
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:48 PM (0sNs1)
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I was thinking that given the kind of cyberpunk look of the Hugtek rifle (imported and sold by G-Force) a Chiappa Rhino would make a nice sidearm but they are spendy.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:49 PM (RoO7G)
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Coelacanth I think we have the same Uberti lever - Model 1866? Don’t do action shoots with it but imagine it’s a bit unwieldy - weighs a ton.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:49 PM (tmGxn)
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148 The lever gun I ordered is in .357. Because I know it will lead to a revolver companion.
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
Posted by: blaster
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On a 357, I am not a fan of Taurus barrel porting as ported barrels are pretty obnoxious noisewise (nasty especially on indoor ranges) and not really needed much for recoil control. I can see it for a 44 Magnum and such.
If you plan on the 357 being a Florida bush gun, you could do far worse than a Stainless Steel Vacquero.
The fact that you have to thumb the hammer back to fire deliberately makes them a bit safer if you are getting into brush and Ruger's transfer bar safety helps you carry six in the chamber safely.
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
Posted by: blaster
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On a 357, I am not a fan of Taurus barrel porting as ported barrels are pretty obnoxious noisewise (nasty especially on indoor ranges) and not really needed much for recoil control. I can see it for a 44 Magnum and such.
If you plan on the 357 being a Florida bush gun, you could do far worse than a Stainless Steel Vacquero.
The fact that you have to thumb the hammer back to fire deliberately makes them a bit safer if you are getting into brush and Ruger's transfer bar safety helps you carry six in the chamber safely.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:50 PM (ctrM5)
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MAE, what are you carrying currently?
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
My church gun (and EDC) is a PSA Micro Dagger. Basically a G43x. Mine has a Holosun on it, with real PSA magazines, it holds 15 rounds and it's smaller and thinner than a G26. I'm just under 1k rounds through it and it's working well.
The XD9 will be back once jacket weather comes back.
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
My church gun (and EDC) is a PSA Micro Dagger. Basically a G43x. Mine has a Holosun on it, with real PSA magazines, it holds 15 rounds and it's smaller and thinner than a G26. I'm just under 1k rounds through it and it's working well.
The XD9 will be back once jacket weather comes back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:51 PM (xcxpd)
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I have A Hot woman but she doesn't like to share one bit and is an excellent shot to boot. Both her mother and father were duck hunters par excellence. And he was a helluva shot on all things military or for deer hunting etc.
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
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SWEET!
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
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SWEET!
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
Posted by: ShainS at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (E2cCq)
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I WANT a G19 sized .45 so badly. (This is a recent desire, I realize)
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You wanting an M&P 1.0 or 2.0 in that? Aim Surplus did have a bunch of M&P 1.0 used cop guns (4.25 barrel, I think) but in 45 ACP. CDNN may have some as well.
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You wanting an M&P 1.0 or 2.0 in that? Aim Surplus did have a bunch of M&P 1.0 used cop guns (4.25 barrel, I think) but in 45 ACP. CDNN may have some as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:53 PM (tT6L1)
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Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
Oh on the recoil question, the M&P 45 full size is mild for recoil. I expect it will be very tolerable. But I kinda have to buy this blind (if I can even get it) as the M&P Compact 2.0 .45 is damn hard to find...no rental copies around.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
Oh on the recoil question, the M&P 45 full size is mild for recoil. I expect it will be very tolerable. But I kinda have to buy this blind (if I can even get it) as the M&P Compact 2.0 .45 is damn hard to find...no rental copies around.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:53 PM (xcxpd)
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SWEET!
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
Posted by: ShainS
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I am hoping depending on wife's schedule as she would have to do most of the driving. I am simply not able to handle more than 4-5 hours driving anymore without severe back pain. TX is a very long drive for us.
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
Posted by: ShainS
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I am hoping depending on wife's schedule as she would have to do most of the driving. I am simply not able to handle more than 4-5 hours driving anymore without severe back pain. TX is a very long drive for us.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:54 PM (ctrM5)
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You wanting an M&P 1.0 or 2.0 in that? Aim Surplus did have a bunch of M&P 1.0 used cop guns (4.25 barrel, I think) but in 45 ACP. CDNN may have some as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)
Looking for the 2.0, for the G19 size and the improved trigger.
I do have an M&P 1.0 compact, it is size and functionally identical to a Taurus G3c. Very good for fanny pack carry.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)
Looking for the 2.0, for the G19 size and the improved trigger.
I do have an M&P 1.0 compact, it is size and functionally identical to a Taurus G3c. Very good for fanny pack carry.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:55 PM (xcxpd)
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So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
This is the way
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
This is the way
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:55 PM (RoO7G)
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That Highway Patrol episode - my grandpa - dad's dad - was a CHP from '32-'36, rode one of those giant Harleys. He was a big guy, 6'5" looked like a real bad arse in those tall boots, puffy riding pants and leather jacket.
Posted by: Clarence at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (yfCJb)
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Went to the gun range today for the 3rd time (monthly women's shooting class.) Shot about 75 rounds. Had the used shell fail to eject twice (not sure I am using the right terminology.) This has not happened to me before. Same brand of ammo (Herter's 9mm 115 grain) and same gun (Glock 43.) Not sure if I am doing something different/wrong when loading it? Worked on re-acquiring the target in the sights right away after each shot. Have been working to increase my hand strength with a grip/forearm strengthening device and I can see a difference.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (oLhV3)
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Running at about 150 comments, and NOONE have commented on the big change this week.
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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And...buy more cigars!!!
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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And...buy more cigars!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:58 PM (rAX2y)
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Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel
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Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
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I was mentally prepared a week or two before -- before I even told my boss I was leaving, that is. I'd been picturing the change for quite a while.
Posted by: Weasel
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Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
***
I was mentally prepared a week or two before -- before I even told my boss I was leaving, that is. I'd been picturing the change for quite a while.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:01 PM (omVj0)
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Had the used shell fail to eject twice (not sure I am using the right terminology.) This has not happened to me before. Same brand of ammo (Herter's 9mm 115 grain) and same gun (Glock 43.) Not sure if I am doing something different/wrong when loading it? Worked on re-acquiring the target in the sights right away after each shot. Have been working to increase my hand strength with a grip/forearm strengthening device and I can see a difference.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM
You *may* have an extractor issue, but I doubt it. I suspect the issue is limp wristing. It could also be you don't weigh much.
Try using a little stouter load. The 115 gr. Herter's are pretty soft. Try some 124 gr. or higher, and see if the problem goes away.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM
You *may* have an extractor issue, but I doubt it. I suspect the issue is limp wristing. It could also be you don't weigh much.
Try using a little stouter load. The 115 gr. Herter's are pretty soft. Try some 124 gr. or higher, and see if the problem goes away.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 09:01 PM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (oLhV3)
Frankie, have you tried different weight ammo (124 grain or 147 grain)? Or a different brand of 115 grain ammo? A lot of 9mm handguns use 124 grain 9mm NATO standard pressure ammo because they're meant to compete for military or police contracts. NATO standard pressure is hotter than US standard pressure ammo. If you can't find a 115, 124 or 147 grain round that works, you might want to try 124 grain 9mm NATO pressure rounds.
Ammo QC/QA can also play a part too.
Frankie, have you tried different weight ammo (124 grain or 147 grain)? Or a different brand of 115 grain ammo? A lot of 9mm handguns use 124 grain 9mm NATO standard pressure ammo because they're meant to compete for military or police contracts. NATO standard pressure is hotter than US standard pressure ammo. If you can't find a 115, 124 or 147 grain round that works, you might want to try 124 grain 9mm NATO pressure rounds.
Ammo QC/QA can also play a part too.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 09:05 PM (BCwQW)
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Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 09:08 PM (lJ0H4)
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Blam!
Posted by: TRex - short arms, few words at July 13, 2025 09:08 PM (v/wGm)
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Limp-wristing. Yep, you have to hold the gun in place in order for the recoiling slide to do its job.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 09:09 PM (z1SIt)
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I am hoping depending on wife's schedule as she would have to do most of the driving. I am simply not able to handle more than 4-5 hours driving anymore without severe back pain. TX is a very long drive for us.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:54 PM (ctrM5)
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MOAR POTENTIAL SWEETNESS!
Indeed, if I was retired we'd drive (still a fairly long hike from Northern AZ) and as much as we hate flying these days, we're going to fly in and out (almost like a homecoming for the wifey who was born and raised in nearby Waco).
Cheers and Ciao!
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:54 PM (ctrM5)
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MOAR POTENTIAL SWEETNESS!
Indeed, if I was retired we'd drive (still a fairly long hike from Northern AZ) and as much as we hate flying these days, we're going to fly in and out (almost like a homecoming for the wifey who was born and raised in nearby Waco).
Cheers and Ciao!
Posted by: ShainS at July 13, 2025 09:11 PM (E2cCq)
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Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025
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It's been three months and I haven't even gone back to my old office for a visit. That alone will tell you how much I think about my former work.
They are probably in the middle of the big move to another building anyway -- a large part of why I decided to retire when I did. I'd have had to organize the move in the middle of the hot summer. Uh, no.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025
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It's been three months and I haven't even gone back to my old office for a visit. That alone will tell you how much I think about my former work.
They are probably in the middle of the big move to another building anyway -- a large part of why I decided to retire when I did. I'd have had to organize the move in the middle of the hot summer. Uh, no.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:11 PM (omVj0)
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Modified Weaver stance, with the stiff right arm/bent left arm, helps with many limp wristing scenarios.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:11 PM (xcxpd)
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OK, all y'all. 9:13 thank you time!
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 09:13 PM (rAX2y)
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Thanks Weasel.
If anyone finds a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45, email me!
If anyone finds a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45, email me!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:14 PM (xcxpd)
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It wasn't the plutonium that made our scout troop chaplain a near cripple. It was the lithium that he soaked in once. Yes, he was a submariner.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (IKydn)
Ok. I'll bite. Why was he soaked in lithium?
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (IKydn)
Ok. I'll bite. Why was he soaked in lithium?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 09:15 PM (/HDaX)
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Thank you, Boss.
Now, go plant some pine trees!
Now, go plant some pine trees!
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 09:15 PM (z1SIt)
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I do have an M&P 1.0 compact, it is size and functionally identical to a Taurus G3c. Very good for fanny pack carry.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
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You might want to get some more magazines. Magazines are an expendable item for any semi-auto pistol, so getting spares is in order. Yes, the springs can be stiff. That's because the springs' tension is what feeds fresh rounds into the chamber. If a magazine is giving you problems you can't handle, don't be afraid to replace it with another one.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)
I'm definitely going to get more.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)
I'm definitely going to get more.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 09:17 PM (agbau)
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I have not tried a different weight ammo but I will do that. I know that I am not very strong (have a desk job and am over 29) but trying to work on that. Might be a strange question but could ambient temp affect the ammo? It was almost 100 today (very hot for Oregon) and I know that metal can expand/contract based on temp changes. Am still very new to this, before May the last time I shot was literally in 1985.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 09:17 PM (oLhV3)
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178 OK, all y'all. 9:13 thank you time!
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel
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Thanks for you and all that you do. Thanks to the other commenters to this thread as well.
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel
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Thanks for you and all that you do. Thanks to the other commenters to this thread as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:20 PM (ctrM5)
186
Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
Behind me every drive home.
Thanks reminding us that it'll Monday in the morning.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
Behind me every drive home.
Thanks reminding us that it'll Monday in the morning.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:21 PM (/lPRQ)
187
Thanks for hosting during your vacation, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 09:21 PM (BCwQW)
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Frankie,
Sometimes my G42 will fail to eject if I am not locking my wrist against the recoil. I’ve had loads of wrist injuries, so it is more comfortable for me to let the pistol bark upwards a bit after a shot. But that causes the failure.
Try locking your wrist and perhaps using a tighter grip.
Sometimes my G42 will fail to eject if I am not locking my wrist against the recoil. I’ve had loads of wrist injuries, so it is more comfortable for me to let the pistol bark upwards a bit after a shot. But that causes the failure.
Try locking your wrist and perhaps using a tighter grip.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 09:22 PM (mT+6a)
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Focus on fundamentals!
Buy ammo and cigars!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:58 PM
* points at eyes with index and middle fingers in a 'V' *
* points at Weasel with index and middle finger in a 'V' *
Buy ammo and cigars!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:58 PM
* points at eyes with index and middle fingers in a 'V' *
* points at Weasel with index and middle finger in a 'V' *
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at July 13, 2025 09:22 PM (Ur9h4)
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Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:23 PM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 09:17 PM (oLhV3)
My two cents: I don't think so. Firearms should be able to accommodate any minor expansion brought about in "normal" temperatures Mother Nature can throw at us. If there was an expansion problem, you probably wouldn't be able to chamber the round in the first place.
My two cents: I don't think so. Firearms should be able to accommodate any minor expansion brought about in "normal" temperatures Mother Nature can throw at us. If there was an expansion problem, you probably wouldn't be able to chamber the round in the first place.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 09:25 PM (BCwQW)
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184 I have not tried a different weight ammo but I will do that. I know that I am not very strong (have a desk job and am over 29) but trying to work on that. Might be a strange question but could ambient temp affect the ammo? It was almost 100 today (very hot for Oregon) and I know that metal can expand/contract based on temp changes. Am still very new to this, before May the last time I shot was literally in 1985.
Posted by: Frankie
FWIW, temperature usually ends up spiking pressures with the cheap powder used in range ammo. Try some std. Federal, Winchester, Speer, range ammo. As Ed L says above, extraction problems can be related to the extractor, the recoil impulse generated by firing the cartridge, magazine spring too weak, the recoil spring in the firearm, and whether the chamber is dirty.
You can also have some issues with ammo selection that one pistol will shoot just fine while others will not.
One last thing, I would make sure that the Herters is not steel cased as that can cause problems in certain firearms as well. Steel cased ammo does not expand as much as brass and so often it does not seal the chamber completely allowing carbon fouling.
Posted by: Frankie
FWIW, temperature usually ends up spiking pressures with the cheap powder used in range ammo. Try some std. Federal, Winchester, Speer, range ammo. As Ed L says above, extraction problems can be related to the extractor, the recoil impulse generated by firing the cartridge, magazine spring too weak, the recoil spring in the firearm, and whether the chamber is dirty.
You can also have some issues with ammo selection that one pistol will shoot just fine while others will not.
One last thing, I would make sure that the Herters is not steel cased as that can cause problems in certain firearms as well. Steel cased ammo does not expand as much as brass and so often it does not seal the chamber completely allowing carbon fouling.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:26 PM (ctrM5)
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I know some Herter's is steel cased. Generally, that shouldn't be a problem but some guns can be finicky. Definitely try a few different brands/weights of ammo.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 09:27 PM (/y8xj)
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I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You might be able to fit a 4.0 Slide on a full size M&P frame. I know that is true about the 4.25 and 5 inch slides in the M&P. They are interchangeable.
FWIW, if the trigger on your 1.0 is objectionable, there are some decent aftermarket triggers nowadays.
Gunbusters or Everygunpart have quite a bit from destroyed firearms including full slides, etc.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You might be able to fit a 4.0 Slide on a full size M&P frame. I know that is true about the 4.25 and 5 inch slides in the M&P. They are interchangeable.
FWIW, if the trigger on your 1.0 is objectionable, there are some decent aftermarket triggers nowadays.
Gunbusters or Everygunpart have quite a bit from destroyed firearms including full slides, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:28 PM (ctrM5)
195
Bayonne, NJ? That ain’t nothin’! When the new Henry repro factory got going, they were located in Brooklyn. Yes, that Brooklyn. They have since started another facility in Wisconsin iirc.
I like my .357 but it weighs a ton and a half. Very accurate and fun to shoot however. No tin can, the marauding bastards that they are, is safe around me.
I like my .357 but it weighs a ton and a half. Very accurate and fun to shoot however. No tin can, the marauding bastards that they are, is safe around me.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 13, 2025 09:30 PM (yFlgz)
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I thought I read somewhere, any ammunition that gets exposed to direct sunlight, and gets hot, the pressures will spike to a considerable … degree
Posted by: Common Tater at July 13, 2025 09:32 PM (I/Icm)
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193 I know some Herter's is steel cased. Generally, that shouldn't be a problem but some guns can be finicky. Definitely try a few different brands/weights of ammo.
Posted by: Oddbob
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The problem with steel is usually fouling. Unless you are firing thousands of rounds of it, it is rare that it wears an ejector and extractor enough to damage those.
Some crazy dudes used to even reload steel cases from WWII (45 ACP if I remember). The major problem with it- according to them was it could damage your reloading dies if you did not lube every case and required muscle to taper crimp the bullet back in place. It can also rust which is the major bad thing about steel cases.
Posted by: Oddbob
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The problem with steel is usually fouling. Unless you are firing thousands of rounds of it, it is rare that it wears an ejector and extractor enough to damage those.
Some crazy dudes used to even reload steel cases from WWII (45 ACP if I remember). The major problem with it- according to them was it could damage your reloading dies if you did not lube every case and required muscle to taper crimp the bullet back in place. It can also rust which is the major bad thing about steel cases.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:32 PM (ctrM5)
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196 I thought I read somewhere, any ammunition that gets exposed to direct sunlight, and gets hot, the pressures will spike to a considerable … degree
Posted by: Common Tater
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It can. Expensive canister powders like for self defense (and reloading) have broad temperature curves from frigid to Sahara desert. But cheapo range stuff or careless reloading up to the red pressure line can actually change the pressure curve/burning rate to cause problems if left in direct sunlight and it is hot enough.
Too much to discuss how hot and humid temperature storage affects long term powder stability but it does not help it at all.
Posted by: Common Tater
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It can. Expensive canister powders like for self defense (and reloading) have broad temperature curves from frigid to Sahara desert. But cheapo range stuff or careless reloading up to the red pressure line can actually change the pressure curve/burning rate to cause problems if left in direct sunlight and it is hot enough.
Too much to discuss how hot and humid temperature storage affects long term powder stability but it does not help it at all.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:35 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (Wnv9h)
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According to the National Park Service, whale sightings typically peak in late summer and are lowest during the late fall and winter as the mammals migrate to warmer environments. Anyone with information detailing how whale #2583 was injured is encouraged to contact rangers at 907-697-2230.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (GITLP)
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Raining very lightly here right now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 09:38 PM (D91Jg)
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ow
Posted by: whale #2583 at July 13, 2025 09:38 PM (i0F8b)
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Hegseth tears up red tape, orders Pentagon to begin drone surge at Trump's command
Hegseth orders commanders to treat small drones as consumable weapons rather than high-end aircraft
Hegseth orders commanders to treat small drones as consumable weapons rather than high-end aircraft
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (GITLP)
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190 Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, I just forgot, try Guns dot com as well. Guns Magazine is somehow affiliated with it but they have firearms not on gunbroker--from dealers, pawnshops, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, I just forgot, try Guns dot com as well. Guns Magazine is somehow affiliated with it but they have firearms not on gunbroker--from dealers, pawnshops, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)
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Thanks for the thread, Weasel. And while on vacation!
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 09:41 PM (41CYW)
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Might be a strange question but could ambient temp affect the ammo? It was almost 100 today (very hot for Oregon) and I know that metal can expand/contract based on temp changes. Am still very new to this, before May the last time I shot was literally in 1985.
Posted by: Frankie
A temp of 100 may have some effect on the shooter. Especially if not used to high temps. Maybe a bit of fatigue -> limp wrist ?
Posted by: Frankie
A temp of 100 may have some effect on the shooter. Especially if not used to high temps. Maybe a bit of fatigue -> limp wrist ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:41 PM (/lPRQ)
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A temp of 100 may have some effect on the shooter. Especially if not used to high temps. Maybe a bit of fatigue -> limp wrist ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Possible.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Possible.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:41 PM (ctrM5)
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Anyone with information detailing how whale #2583 was injured is encouraged to contact rangers at 907-697-2230.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (GITLP)
Whale #2583 had her purple hair pulled out by the roots at the ICE riot in Camarillo.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (GITLP)
Whale #2583 had her purple hair pulled out by the roots at the ICE riot in Camarillo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 09:42 PM (D91Jg)
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MAE, I just forgot, try Guns dot com as well. Guns Magazine is somehow affiliated with it but they have firearms not on gunbroker--from dealers, pawnshops, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)
Thanks Whig, trying now
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)
Thanks Whig, trying now
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:44 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (/lPRQ)
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210 Gun dot deals
Good webcrawler if you have the UPC code for the item you are looking for.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (/lPRQ)
Thankee
Good webcrawler if you have the UPC code for the item you are looking for.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (/lPRQ)
Thankee
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (xcxpd)
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Goodnight folks. Have a good rest of the weekend.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:47 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 09:51 PM (+kBwA)
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>>>They have since started another facility in Wisconsin iirc.
Posted by: Common Tater
Henry Firearms and Henry bourbon, both in WI. Nice!
Posted by: Common Tater
Henry Firearms and Henry bourbon, both in WI. Nice!
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 13, 2025 09:52 PM (144I4)
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Magazines -
It is not often that I buy a gun,
But when I do I order four more mags when I kno wthe new gun is in the pipeline.
Course you glock-boys (and compatibles) get them buy the twelve pack lredy because very affordable.
It is not often that I buy a gun,
But when I do I order four more mags when I kno wthe new gun is in the pipeline.
Course you glock-boys (and compatibles) get them buy the twelve pack lredy because very affordable.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:55 PM (/lPRQ)
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checking in
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (wBe+K)
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ONT Gun Thread !?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (/lPRQ)
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Guess not... ONT UP
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:03 PM (/lPRQ)
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New a lady whose husband was bugging her. She told him to quit.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:04 PM (wBe+K)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 11:00 PM (HlyYF)
Food Thread: Pâté, Sweet Tea, And Cheese Puffs? Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad!
What am I drinking? Burgundies. The entire region let me down a few weeks ago, as a friend who for some perverse and disturbing reason likes Bordeauxs, competed with me and won. The Burgundy I chose was crap. Flat, boring, thin. Thoroughly insipid. His Bordeauxs were simply better. And that really pissed me off, because he won't let me forget it. So I figured I had to see if they can redeem themselves, and what better way to do that than take a very fast and comfortable train (thank you French taxpayers!) to the heart of the region. And hopefully I will find good examples of their wines, which are notoriously difficult to make, and painfully expensive sometimes. I won't be drinking DRC wines (four figures is common), but rather the off-the-beaten-path wines that should be wonderful. I hope.
What am I eating? Oeuf en meurette is definitely on the menu. Eggs poached in red wine, with thick bacon, mushrooms and shallots. Yeah, sounds awful. And Gougères, which are nothing more than cheese puffs. But that isn't a bad thing!
Yes, it is a NY Times link, and for that I apologize. But in my defense it is a solid recipe by one of their most famous food writers. Craig Claiborne knew his stuff, and this is an excellent recipe for Pâté de Campagne. Too many recipes add all sorts of extraneous spices, but the original dish is simple, and Claiborne keeps it that way! I visited some cooking shops with friends a few weeks ago, and they sold special molds for these sorts of pâtés. Tempting, but ultimately silly for the home cook. Unless you want to make the pâté wrapped in a flaky crust, but that adds complexity to a simple dish. It is mighty tasty though! See? I am convincing myself to buy one of those baking molds!
I thought France would have good garlic, but the Frogs seem to have the same problem we have in the U.S. At least they don't import filthy garlic from China. Pork is great here, but no game, so send all of your extra antelope to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.
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le fil de la cuisine
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:01 PM (+qU29)
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Grilled chicken thighs w/ BBQ sauce
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:02 PM (+qU29)
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Good wine comes with a screw top.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 04:02 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 04:03 PM (/HDaX)
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The Food Thread will be a little light today, since I have been busy eating and drinking as research for future additions!
What, not 'due to the trauma or pork chop deprivation'?
What, not 'due to the trauma or pork chop deprivation'?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2025 04:04 PM (ULPxl)
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My cousin had a bottle of Eagle Rare (made by Buffalo Trace) at the beach this past week. Very smooth and dangerous.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 04:06 PM (jc0TO)
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Good wine can be found in red cans labeled "COKE"
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 04:06 PM (Y6Ecf)
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Funny there are eggs in the photo b/c that's what dinner here is tonight. I have convinced the spouse lunch on weekends is a good idea, and Mother's Hubbard's wallet is still light this month, so thanks to Trump getting eggs to $2.70/dozen and Aldi's putting pie crusts on sale for 50% off, I'm making my 1st (dairy free) Western omelette quiche (onions, bacon, peppers, mushrooms, nutritional yeast) in awhile. I'm making 2, even with only 4 to feed tonight b/c I need lunches for the week, and I love my quiches. It's the reverse of the norm - it's light, airy, and light on the stomach. Replacing cream with egg white and rice milk (and going heavier on eggs) makes this more egg pie/frittata than quiche, but you still get pie crust, and who doesn't love pie crust as the carb dinner.
Got a deal on snap peas, so doing a saute of those with some grapes and strawberries as the sides. I don't need a heavy meat meal b/c the spouse already had leftover brats for lunch, so the "must have lots of meat" push is in neutral...at least til tomorrow. It should make future weekend dinner meals for me less meat forward for the summer...
Got a deal on snap peas, so doing a saute of those with some grapes and strawberries as the sides. I don't need a heavy meat meal b/c the spouse already had leftover brats for lunch, so the "must have lots of meat" push is in neutral...at least til tomorrow. It should make future weekend dinner meals for me less meat forward for the summer...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 04:14 PM (tOcjL)
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Sweet tea should not be too sweet. On a hot summer day in the South it's just the thing. I understand that it has electrolytes.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 04:14 PM (vFG9F)
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Spareribs, corn on the cob and fruit salad tonight.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 04:14 PM (lJ0H4)
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Was bummed on my Aldi shop...something I bought for years decided to change its recipe and add whey (thus adding milk where before there was none), so I'm back to checking all labels at Aldi's again for the next few shops. I hate when there are recipe changes but no notification on the box that it's a new formulation...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 04:17 PM (tOcjL)
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I think I saw that meal with leaves and raw eggs when I was camping one time.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 04:18 PM (vFG9F)
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There's a bag of slider buns laying around. My wife has the grandkids up the road getting some ice cream and visiting a park.
*eyes bottle of Bourbon*
Guess I'll do sliders tonight.
*eyes bottle of Bourbon*
Guess I'll do sliders tonight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 04:18 PM (Q4IgG)
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"And Gougères, which are nothing more than cheese puffs."
They are less than cheese puffs: no food coloring.
They look really good.
They are less than cheese puffs: no food coloring.
They look really good.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 13, 2025 04:19 PM (MX0bI)
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Forty . . . dollars for a bottle of bourbon???? In my drinking days of the '70s and '80s, I considered a ten-dollar bottle of *anything* alcoholic to be a big splurge for celebration purposes. But of course I was not sipping or experiencing or creating a cellar, but getting a buzz (or more) on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:21 PM (omVj0)
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Polish/Mexican. Can I get a kielbasa chalupa, please.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:22 PM (HFcKg)
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Sweet tea was a summer favorite at my grandparents' house. Her version was like something you'd put in a hummingbird feeder. No wonder we ran around the woods all night.
Posted by: PabloD at July 13, 2025 04:23 PM (o2Win)
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Chalupa mi verga!
Posted by: Bombadil at July 13, 2025 04:25 PM (MX0bI)
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12 year scotch seems to run $60-80
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:25 PM (+qU29)
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The South Koreans had eggs in salad. I forget what it was called but it was good.
Eggs in my part of Canada were $3 something for a dozen large the other day, i'm glad US prices are dropping.
Eggs in my part of Canada were $3 something for a dozen large the other day, i'm glad US prices are dropping.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 04:26 PM (jvJvP)
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> Can I get a kielbasa chalupa, please.
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That... doesn't sound horrible, actually. I've seen some pretty weird stuff on/with kielbasa in my day.
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That... doesn't sound horrible, actually. I've seen some pretty weird stuff on/with kielbasa in my day.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 04:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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Eggs. I use brown eggs and they are like the diesel variety of eggs. Always higher than the white variety.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:28 PM (HFcKg)
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How do you say 'ripple' in French? Let's not put up any airs here, let's tap into the zeitgeist of French wine making. They probably export that shit to Spain or Germany, don't they?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2025 04:28 PM (/gTjv)
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Rev. Wishbone, Cardboardeau.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:31 PM (HFcKg)
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Threatened my spouse with another egg dish, shakshuka, next weekend - I love it, but he's not as big a fan of poached...especially if they look like CBD's pic. Whereas, runny is my jam...so we eat 5 minutes apart when it comes to non-quiche egg dishes...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 04:31 PM (tOcjL)
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That... doesn't sound horrible, actually. I've seen some pretty weird stuff on/with kielbasa in my day.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 04:27 PM (Q4IgG)
Keilbasa and sauerkraut was the meal at my Polish Grandmother's house.
Amazing cook. As a baker, she tried. I remember some peanut butter cookies that must have been a quarter of a pound. Literally. Delicious though. Because Grandma.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 04:27 PM (Q4IgG)
Keilbasa and sauerkraut was the meal at my Polish Grandmother's house.
Amazing cook. As a baker, she tried. I remember some peanut butter cookies that must have been a quarter of a pound. Literally. Delicious though. Because Grandma.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 04:31 PM (jvJvP)
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That is called Oyakodon, and it's a very simple dish that lots of different food cultures make, or at least their version of it. Some sort of flavored protein (in this case it is chicken simmered in dashi), eggs, onions or some other aromatic, and starch.
The Japanese have many versions of this meat-eggs-rice dish.
katsudon is made with a fried pork cutlet: katsu (pork cutlet) don (bowl)
gyuudon is made with beef: gyuu (beef) don (bowl)
oyakodon is made with chicken: oya (parent) ko (child) don (bowl).
"Parent-and-child bowl" for chicken and eggs. Ha! Kind of macabre, though.
The Japanese have many versions of this meat-eggs-rice dish.
katsudon is made with a fried pork cutlet: katsu (pork cutlet) don (bowl)
gyuudon is made with beef: gyuu (beef) don (bowl)
oyakodon is made with chicken: oya (parent) ko (child) don (bowl).
"Parent-and-child bowl" for chicken and eggs. Ha! Kind of macabre, though.
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 04:32 PM (DgGvY)
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I’m sure you already know this, but burgundy and Bordeaux are totally different grapes.
Red burgundy is Pinot noir, so it’s naturally lighter. Bordeaux is usually a blend with Cabernet savignon. It’s a heavier, fuller-bodied wine. I like Bordeaux.
All French wines are susceptible to weather, so read up on the better vintage years and only buy them.
Red burgundy is Pinot noir, so it’s naturally lighter. Bordeaux is usually a blend with Cabernet savignon. It’s a heavier, fuller-bodied wine. I like Bordeaux.
All French wines are susceptible to weather, so read up on the better vintage years and only buy them.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:33 PM (NgBDl)
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French name for a Polish and Mexican 'Bistro'.
Can't decide if that's a hard pass or a what the hell.
Can't decide if that's a hard pass or a what the hell.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 04:34 PM (n4GiU)
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Elric, all wines are subject to weather. A bad Bordeaux year may be a great Tempranillo year.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:35 PM (HFcKg)
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> Keilbasa and sauerkraut was the meal at my Polish Grandmother's house.
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We had pork, like boneless pork chops or riblets with sauerkraut growing up. I'm torn between that and kielbasa with 'kraut. Oh, and mashed 'taters with it.
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We had pork, like boneless pork chops or riblets with sauerkraut growing up. I'm torn between that and kielbasa with 'kraut. Oh, and mashed 'taters with it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 04:35 PM (Q4IgG)
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How do you say 'ripple' in French? Let's not put up any airs here, let's tap into the zeitgeist of French wine making.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2025 04:28 PM (/gTjv)
My local supermarket has $4 wine. Most other products are pretty good quality, so it wouldn't surprise me that it is drinkable!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2025 04:28 PM (/gTjv)
My local supermarket has $4 wine. Most other products are pretty good quality, so it wouldn't surprise me that it is drinkable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 04:35 PM (+EgYj)
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Polish and Mexican
Eh, what the Hell. ( opens door and goes inside)
Eh, what the Hell. ( opens door and goes inside)
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:37 PM (+qU29)
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mikeski what does donburi mean?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:37 PM (AIhUY)
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>>>I think I saw that meal with leaves and raw eggs when I was camping one time.
Posted by: fd
>Slimey eggs, half cooked bacon and beans over a camp fire is what we call a cowboy breakfast. This fare comes with several cups of coffee strong enough to strip rust from the Studebacker parked in the back forty.
Posted by: fd
>Slimey eggs, half cooked bacon and beans over a camp fire is what we call a cowboy breakfast. This fare comes with several cups of coffee strong enough to strip rust from the Studebacker parked in the back forty.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2025 04:38 PM (/gTjv)
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Raw eggs ???!!! 🤢🤮
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 04:39 PM (g47mK)
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Mariners SWEEP the Tigers!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 04:39 PM (mT+6a)
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That is called Oyakodon, and it's a very simple dish
Bourgeois foodie codswallop. More than two ingredients = not simple.
Bourgeois foodie codswallop. More than two ingredients = not simple.
Posted by: Halfhand at July 13, 2025 04:39 PM (HOn62)
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Elric, all wines are subject to weather. A bad Bordeaux year may be a great Tempranillo year.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:35 PM (HFcKg)
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Well, yea. Of course. But I’ve not seen as much variation in quality between years as I have from French wines. They are worth reading up on. Spanish wines? I’ve found that almost any year will do.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:35 PM (HFcKg)
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Well, yea. Of course. But I’ve not seen as much variation in quality between years as I have from French wines. They are worth reading up on. Spanish wines? I’ve found that almost any year will do.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:40 PM (NgBDl)
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Posted by: Steeldoc at July 13, 2025 04:40 PM (aasco)
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mikeski what does donburi mean?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:37 PM (AIhUY)
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‘Get off of my fucking lawn.’ Or “tentacle porn.’ My Japanese is rusty.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:37 PM (AIhUY)
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‘Get off of my fucking lawn.’ Or “tentacle porn.’ My Japanese is rusty.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:41 PM (NgBDl)
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34 mikeski what does donburi mean?
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Donburi is the generic term for a rice bowl meal. Oyakodon and others are specific examples.
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Donburi is the generic term for a rice bowl meal. Oyakodon and others are specific examples.
Posted by: Steeldoc at July 13, 2025 04:43 PM (aasco)
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All French wines are susceptible to weather, so read up on the better vintage years and only buy them.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:33 PM (NgBDl)
The French are embracing modern viticultural techniques, so their year-to-year variation is decreasing.
But warm weather wine growing countries are always going to have the advantage in consistency.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:33 PM (NgBDl)
The French are embracing modern viticultural techniques, so their year-to-year variation is decreasing.
But warm weather wine growing countries are always going to have the advantage in consistency.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 04:43 PM (+EgYj)
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Yesterday I remembered to defrost a chicken quarter.
This morning I remembered to make cranberry sauce.
Just now I took the chicken out and cleaned some potatoes and a carrot.
Hope i remember all this in an hour and put it in to bake.
This morning I remembered to make cranberry sauce.
Just now I took the chicken out and cleaned some potatoes and a carrot.
Hope i remember all this in an hour and put it in to bake.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 04:45 PM (n4GiU)
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A Winery here in Texas made the most glorious chocolate port
Have never found another one even close to it.
Have never found another one even close to it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:45 PM (HFcKg)
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some are probably wondering, what does runner have agains raw/soft boiled eggs ?
Because as a child, I was fed this --> https://tinyurl.com/sa47ey9h every morning !!
hate!
Because as a child, I was fed this --> https://tinyurl.com/sa47ey9h every morning !!
hate!
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 04:45 PM (g47mK)
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mikeski what does donburi mean?
Posted by: vmom
丼 can be pronounced "don" or "donburi." It just means "porcelain bowl," but also refers to all of these meat-egg-and-rice dishes.
Posted by: vmom
丼 can be pronounced "don" or "donburi." It just means "porcelain bowl," but also refers to all of these meat-egg-and-rice dishes.
Posted by: mikeski at July 13, 2025 04:45 PM (DgGvY)
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What's the name of the winery, Ben Had?
Posted by: DanMa'am at July 13, 2025 04:47 PM (8uzBS)
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DanMa'am, red caboose Winery. Their wines are excellent.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:48 PM (HFcKg)
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丼 can be pronounced "don" or "donburi." It just means "porcelain bowl," but also refers to all of these meat-egg-and-rice dishes.
Posted by: mikesk
arigato
Posted by: mikesk
arigato
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:49 PM (KLKSV)
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I can drink the cheapest French red. I cannot drink any CA red wine. Too manny sulfates. RFK jr needs to ban those ASAP.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 04:50 PM (g47mK)
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I like sofr boiled eggs
Nummy with hot sauce
Nummy with hot sauce
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:52 PM (mi1UN)
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I’m sure everyone is waiting to learn how The Blade’s exotic meats went over for July 4th. It was mixed.
Alpaca: Excellent. All 3 pounds was eaten. This is a delicious, lean red meat. I can’t say we nailed the cooking technique or temps (we didn’t) so I’m sure next time will be even better.
Bobcat: Tasty, tied with beaver for tops on the sausage. 2 pounds eaten.
Beaver: Also tasty. 2 pounds eaten.
Coyote: Meh at best. Had an ‘off’ flavor that might have been the result of too much spice. Only half eaten.
Python: Same as coyote. Only half eaten.
Alpaca: Excellent. All 3 pounds was eaten. This is a delicious, lean red meat. I can’t say we nailed the cooking technique or temps (we didn’t) so I’m sure next time will be even better.
Bobcat: Tasty, tied with beaver for tops on the sausage. 2 pounds eaten.
Beaver: Also tasty. 2 pounds eaten.
Coyote: Meh at best. Had an ‘off’ flavor that might have been the result of too much spice. Only half eaten.
Python: Same as coyote. Only half eaten.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:52 PM (NgBDl)
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The French and Japanese do have good food...when they can control themselves regarding ingredients. (I will not eat the bug or the snail or the tentacle)
Surprisingly, Jim Beam Straight Rye is pretty darn good. And only $20 a bottle out here in Seattle.
Surprisingly, Jim Beam Straight Rye is pretty darn good. And only $20 a bottle out here in Seattle.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 04:52 PM (xcxpd)
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There is a wi Winery here that produced a nice cab but you could tell it was too young. Recasked it for a month and it turned into a whole new dimension.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:53 PM (HFcKg)
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>>>I can drink the cheapest French red. I cannot drink any CA red wine. Too manny sulfates. RFK jr needs to ban those ASAP.
Posted by: runner
>I find that sulfates are what give you the headache and the hangover. This is unacceptable and probably why I limit my intake of wine.
Industrial wine.
Posted by: runner
>I find that sulfates are what give you the headache and the hangover. This is unacceptable and probably why I limit my intake of wine.
Industrial wine.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2025 04:53 PM (/gTjv)
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I know a quite a few people with the same CA red wine problem. So , it is definitely not that unique.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 04:54 PM (g47mK)
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4 Roses Small Batch Select, at 101 proof, is also a nice start to the evening. Nice, a little spicy, better than the other three 4 Roses blends IMO.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 04:55 PM (xcxpd)
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Trying to decide what I'll have for dinner. Not a lot of choices in the house that are not frozen or canned, I'm afraid. It's getting tougher to get salmon at a reasonable price. Walmart used to have its one-pound bag of frozen salmon filets for under $5 before the Sniffle Scare. The last time I saw one, it was more like $7. I'd pay that (with gritted teeth) -- but I can't find it in the stores around me.
Aldi used to have a similar product, but that seems to have vanished too.
Aldi used to have a similar product, but that seems to have vanished too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:55 PM (omVj0)
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53 I’m sure everyone is waiting to learn how The Blade’s exotic meats went over for July 4th. It was mixed.
Alpaca: Excellent. All 3 pounds was eaten. This is a delicious, lean red meat. I can’t say we nailed the cooking technique or temps (we didn’t) so I’m sure next time will be even better.
Bobcat: Tasty, tied with beaver for tops on the sausage. 2 pounds eaten.
Beaver: Also tasty. 2 pounds eaten.
Coyote: Meh at best. Had an ‘off’ flavor that might have been the result of too much spice. Only half eaten.
Python: Same as coyote. Only half eaten.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:52 PM (NgBDl)
I admit, this taste test would have fascinated me...and then I'd be thinking of what sauces/flavors/sides match each one...
Alpaca: Excellent. All 3 pounds was eaten. This is a delicious, lean red meat. I can’t say we nailed the cooking technique or temps (we didn’t) so I’m sure next time will be even better.
Bobcat: Tasty, tied with beaver for tops on the sausage. 2 pounds eaten.
Beaver: Also tasty. 2 pounds eaten.
Coyote: Meh at best. Had an ‘off’ flavor that might have been the result of too much spice. Only half eaten.
Python: Same as coyote. Only half eaten.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:52 PM (NgBDl)
I admit, this taste test would have fascinated me...and then I'd be thinking of what sauces/flavors/sides match each one...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 04:55 PM (tOcjL)
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I bought a bottle of whistlepig 10 rye. I’ve had it before and liked it. Maybe this bottle was skunked because it’s shit. Overpowering alcohol taste. Gave me a stomachache. Crap.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 04:56 PM (NgBDl)
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Alpaca: Excellent. All 3 pounds was eaten. This is a delicious, lean red meat. I can’t say we nailed the cooking technique or temps (we didn’t) so I’m sure next time will be even better.
Bobcat: Tasty, tied with beaver for tops on the sausage. 2 pounds eaten. . . .
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025
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Alpaca! You can eat him and make a sweater out of him as well!
Bobcat? So much for the old saying that carnivores taste gamy or worse.
Bobcat: Tasty, tied with beaver for tops on the sausage. 2 pounds eaten. . . .
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025
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Alpaca! You can eat him and make a sweater out of him as well!
Bobcat? So much for the old saying that carnivores taste gamy or worse.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:57 PM (omVj0)
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Wine can go bad so assume any other alcohol can if stored improper
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:58 PM (+qU29)
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I ran (very scientific) experiments. i tried the cheapest wines from Spain, Italy, Portugal. No problem. CA , from most highly regarded wineries. No bueno.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 04:58 PM (g47mK)
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Elric, find a bottle of Watershed.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 04:58 PM (HFcKg)
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I like what I think of as fat Italian red wines. Montepaluciano, some less fancy Chianties. Can find some Portuguese that fit, and occasionally east european like Romania or Hungary.
Rhode Island has a lot of small family liquor stores, especially of the P&I persuasions. You can go on treasure hunts..
Rhode Island has a lot of small family liquor stores, especially of the P&I persuasions. You can go on treasure hunts..
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 05:00 PM (n4GiU)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 13, 2025 05:01 PM (WF/xn)
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Tonight is salmon, probably broiled since it may be too rainy to grill, baked potatoes with chives from the garden, corn on the cob, and fresh tomatoes-also from the garden. Right now having a Pineapple spiced cider from a local cidery called Ash & Elm. They make a good product-not too sweet.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 13, 2025 05:01 PM (dyL4B)
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59 Trying to decide what I'll have for dinner. Not a lot of choices in the house that are not frozen or canned, I'm afraid. It's getting tougher to get salmon at a reasonable price. Walmart used to have its one-pound bag of frozen salmon filets for under $5 before the Sniffle Scare. The last time I saw one, it was more like $7. I'd pay that (with gritted teeth) -- but I can't find it in the stores around me.
Aldi used to have a similar product, but that seems to have vanished too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:55 PM (omVj0)
I could never get into frozen salmon...I'm just very snobby about my salmon still having a texture that just doesn't stab up to freezing. I'm not as picky for white fish, so I've bought frozen cod and tilapia...pretty sure you can find both in your price range in Aldi (or maybe 1 b/c they do seem to rotate frozen a lot)...
Aldi used to have a similar product, but that seems to have vanished too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:55 PM (omVj0)
I could never get into frozen salmon...I'm just very snobby about my salmon still having a texture that just doesn't stab up to freezing. I'm not as picky for white fish, so I've bought frozen cod and tilapia...pretty sure you can find both in your price range in Aldi (or maybe 1 b/c they do seem to rotate frozen a lot)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 05:01 PM (tOcjL)
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Carlo Rossi Burgundy at 12 bucks a gallon is still a very drinkable wine.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:03 PM (HFcKg)
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If you look on the bottom shelf in the wine section you can get enormous bottles for just a few bucks!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 05:03 PM (a4dG3)
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Ah yes, Greek wine. It is not that consistent. But they do have "old wines". Ones that did not succumb to the wine plague in the 19th (?) century, like most other European ones did.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 05:03 PM (g47mK)
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Weasel, you found the Carlo Rossi too!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:05 PM (HFcKg)
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stab = stand (dang typo)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 05:05 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 05:06 PM (a4dG3)
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41 mikeski what does donburi mean?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:37 PM (AIhUY)
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‘Get off of my fucking lawn.’ Or “tentacle porn.’ My Japanese is rusty.
embrace the healing power of "and"
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 04:37 PM (AIhUY)
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‘Get off of my fucking lawn.’ Or “tentacle porn.’ My Japanese is rusty.
embrace the healing power of "and"
Posted by: anachronda at July 13, 2025 05:07 PM (2shvj)
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Weasel once brought me a bottle of " Freak Show " cab. It was great!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:08 PM (HFcKg)
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Weasel once brought me a bottle of " Freak Show " cab. It was great!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:08 PM (HFcKg)
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Seemed like a good candidate for the official wine of the TXMoMe!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:08 PM (HFcKg)
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Seemed like a good candidate for the official wine of the TXMoMe!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 05:09 PM (a4dG3)
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Weasel, you could not be more right and now we are marking a decade.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:11 PM (HFcKg)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 05:13 PM (a4dG3)
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Making Greek yogurt today........
In the sous vide
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway
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Will that be cheaper than buying it? Flavor?
Making Greek yogurt today........
In the sous vide
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway
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Will that be cheaper than buying it? Flavor?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (xp7+v)
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (rdTCV)
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Weasel, my unwavering gratitude to you for making it what it is.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:15 PM (HFcKg)
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76, LOL!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 05:15 PM (dKEEs)
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Weasel, my unwavering gratitude to you for making it what it is.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:15 PM (HFcKg)
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Nah. It's all you!!!!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:15 PM (HFcKg)
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Nah. It's all you!!!!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 05:17 PM (a4dG3)
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I showed my daughter how to make chantilly sauce, started with a cup of heavy cream. By the time we were done, she'd forgotten about the cookies and wanted to eat all the whipped cream
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 05:18 PM (Udy3r)
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I do not like iced tea, so sweet tea is just sugar added to yuckiness.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Comfortably Lame at July 13, 2025 05:19 PM (0aYVJ)
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Weasel, nope. It is the collaborative effort of an incredible group of people.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:21 PM (HFcKg)
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Roasted veggies with leftover Brisket Point and Japanese bbq sauce. Very tasty
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 05:22 PM (pxXMV)
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Since I had to work on Independence Day and had no hotdogs, we had them today. Better late than never as they say.
Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2025 05:22 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 05:23 PM (a4dG3)
92
Test runs for the MoMe menu are currently being run.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:26 PM (HFcKg)
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Well CBD did you hit the Burgundy jackpot?
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (rdTCV)
No, but there is more wine on the horizon!
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (rdTCV)
No, but there is more wine on the horizon!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 05:28 PM (+EgYj)
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Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (rdTCV)
The whites have been far more successful than the reds.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (rdTCV)
The whites have been far more successful than the reds.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 05:28 PM (+EgYj)
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Ooh, jut remembered to turn the oven on. Now to remember to put the food in.
Temps dropped to 78°, delightful breeze out here. Sipping tonic water and lime, listening to tunes on random play.
Rock out Fatt.
Temps dropped to 78°, delightful breeze out here. Sipping tonic water and lime, listening to tunes on random play.
Rock out Fatt.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 05:32 PM (n4GiU)
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15 Forty . . . dollars for a bottle of bourbon???? In my drinking days of the '70s and '80s, I considered a ten-dollar bottle of *anything* alcoholic to be a big splurge for celebration purposes. But of course I was not sipping or experiencing or creating a cellar, but getting a buzz (or more) on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:21 PM (omVj0)
A few years ago, I found an excellent 7 yr old bourbon for 17.99, called Bird Dog. I was skeptical. They had a 4 yr old for 13.99, but given that Wild Turkey 101 was north of 21 bucks, I figured the 7 would be a fairer comparison.
Well, lemme tell ye, I started buying it in pairs after that first bottle. Sure enough, after a little more than a year, it disappeared from the shelf. The store couldn't find it anymore. Fast forward to earlier this year, and it's back, sporting a fancy price of 25.99. Apparently, I wasn't the only one asking about it. I should pick up a bottle for old time's sake, but at that price, much of the thrill is gone..
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 04:21 PM (omVj0)
A few years ago, I found an excellent 7 yr old bourbon for 17.99, called Bird Dog. I was skeptical. They had a 4 yr old for 13.99, but given that Wild Turkey 101 was north of 21 bucks, I figured the 7 would be a fairer comparison.
Well, lemme tell ye, I started buying it in pairs after that first bottle. Sure enough, after a little more than a year, it disappeared from the shelf. The store couldn't find it anymore. Fast forward to earlier this year, and it's back, sporting a fancy price of 25.99. Apparently, I wasn't the only one asking about it. I should pick up a bottle for old time's sake, but at that price, much of the thrill is gone..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 05:34 PM (bA75n)
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I could never get into frozen salmon...I'm just very snobby about my salmon still having a texture that just doesn't stab up to freezing. I'm not as picky for white fish, so I've bought frozen cod and tilapia...pretty sure you can find both in your price range in Aldi (or maybe 1 b/c they do seem to rotate frozen a lot)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025
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Yes, I see both at various times, both at Aldi and WM. We do have a fresh seafood market about five or six miles away on my side of the river; I keep meaning to go back and see what they have.
I could never get into frozen salmon...I'm just very snobby about my salmon still having a texture that just doesn't stab up to freezing. I'm not as picky for white fish, so I've bought frozen cod and tilapia...pretty sure you can find both in your price range in Aldi (or maybe 1 b/c they do seem to rotate frozen a lot)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025
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Yes, I see both at various times, both at Aldi and WM. We do have a fresh seafood market about five or six miles away on my side of the river; I keep meaning to go back and see what they have.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 05:36 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 05:39 PM (pxXMV)
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The tax on spirits in WA State is north of 20%
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 05:39 PM (KrLJ+)
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Well, lemme tell ye, I started buying it in pairs after that first bottle. Sure enough, after a little more than a year, it disappeared from the shelf. The store couldn't find it anymore. Fast forward to earlier this year, and it's back, sporting a fancy price of 25.99. Apparently, I wasn't the only one asking about it. I should pick up a bottle for old time's sake, but at that price, much of the thrill is gone..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 05:34 PM (bA75n)
I had that problem with Eagle Rare. It was just $35 at Safeway for a while. Me and the wife bought about 5 bottles before it vanished from everywhere but dedicated liquor stores where it's...$60 a bottle now.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 05:34 PM (bA75n)
I had that problem with Eagle Rare. It was just $35 at Safeway for a while. Me and the wife bought about 5 bottles before it vanished from everywhere but dedicated liquor stores where it's...$60 a bottle now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 05:40 PM (xcxpd)
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Eggs poached in a spicy tomato sauce. Damn good eating. Add leftover crab cakes and it's the breakfast of the gods.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 05:40 PM (dR6yv)
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Speaking of Aldi, we have a new one that opened late in June, a much easier drive than the previous two. And 7/30 is the announced opening date for the one within walking distance of my house. Both of these used to be Winn-Dixies, aka "Highway robbery with cashiers," so the change will be welcome.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 05:41 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 05:42 PM (c6Yx0)
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99 The tax on spirits in WA State is north of 20%
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 05:39 PM (KrLJ+)
ugh, don't remind me.
It's why I shop at Costco. It shows the post-tax price on the bottles, so I don't get an uncomfortable surprise.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 05:39 PM (KrLJ+)
ugh, don't remind me.
It's why I shop at Costco. It shows the post-tax price on the bottles, so I don't get an uncomfortable surprise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 05:42 PM (xcxpd)
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Spanish wineries can irrigate in many regions. The French do not allow irrigation.
That’s part of the difference
Made a big batch of Paella last night. Wasn’t as good as usual. Some bastard may have shaken the pan.
That’s part of the difference
Made a big batch of Paella last night. Wasn’t as good as usual. Some bastard may have shaken the pan.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:43 PM (rdTCV)
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I love chilaquiles, but not every Mexican restaurant serves it. I only know of one chain in the area that does. It's bit heavy because they use lots of tortilla chips as the starch. Not something to be enjoyed even semi-regularly, more like once a year, at least for me.
And then there's the hash brown bowl or grits bowl from Waffle House. Onions aren't added by default but you can ask for them and they would qualify them as this type of dish I guess.
And then there's the hash brown bowl or grits bowl from Waffle House. Onions aren't added by default but you can ask for them and they would qualify them as this type of dish I guess.
Posted by: Farquad at July 13, 2025 05:43 PM (yqgaV)
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101 Eggs poached in a spicy tomato sauce. Damn good eating. Add leftover crab cakes and it's the breakfast of the gods.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 05:40 PM (dR6yv)
What's a 'leftover crab cake'...never seen one of those before...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 05:40 PM (dR6yv)
What's a 'leftover crab cake'...never seen one of those before...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 05:43 PM (xcxpd)
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Sweet tea was invented in a revenge scenario. Sibling rivalries, mostly. If falls upon the disgruntled Uncle to ply the nephews and nieces with Sweet tea just before taking his leave.
AKA-- Pinball technique.
AKA-- Pinball technique.
Posted by: Orson at July 13, 2025 05:44 PM (dIske)
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Sweet tea was invented in a revenge scenario. Sibling rivalries, mostly. If falls upon the disgruntled Uncle to ply the nephews and nieces with Sweet tea just before taking his leave.
AKA-- Pinball technique.
Posted by: Orson
Oh, thank you, I've' been supplying espresso chocolate milk.
AKA-- Pinball technique.
Posted by: Orson
Oh, thank you, I've' been supplying espresso chocolate milk.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 05:47 PM (pxXMV)
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I think mom weaned me on Gallo Hearty Burgundy. Pretty sure...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 05:48 PM (bA75n)
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Made a big batch of Paella last night. Wasn’t as good as usual. Some bastard may have shaken the pan.
Posted by: Pete Bog
Your pan is too small!
Posted by: Pete Bog
Your pan is too small!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 05:48 PM (pxXMV)
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107 101 Eggs poached in a spicy tomato sauce. Damn good eating. Add leftover crab cakes and it's the breakfast of the gods.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 05:40 PM (dR6yv)
What's a 'leftover crab cake'...never seen one of those before...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 05:43 PM (xcxpd)
I have. Ate some crab cakes at a restaurant in Suffolk, VA, while on a work trip. Yeah, they weren't good and there was plenty left over. We should have had them at the really good seafood restaurant we'd eaten at a few nights before but we had other priorities at the time.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 05:40 PM (dR6yv)
What's a 'leftover crab cake'...never seen one of those before...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 05:43 PM (xcxpd)
I have. Ate some crab cakes at a restaurant in Suffolk, VA, while on a work trip. Yeah, they weren't good and there was plenty left over. We should have had them at the really good seafood restaurant we'd eaten at a few nights before but we had other priorities at the time.
Posted by: Farquad at July 13, 2025 05:48 PM (yqgaV)
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Damn it!
Looked away from my PC browser too long and got outbid on a M&P Compact .45. By ten dollars! Oh I'm pissed.
Fucking bid snipers....
Looked away from my PC browser too long and got outbid on a M&P Compact .45. By ten dollars! Oh I'm pissed.
Fucking bid snipers....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 05:49 PM (xcxpd)
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Pete Bog obviously you didn't measure carefully enough.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:51 PM (HFcKg)
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Hello foodies.
Had my first homegrown tomatoes today 🤌🏻 and now I'm baking sweet potato slices and have some Jamaican jerk seasoned drumsticks frying up in a pan.
Had my first homegrown tomatoes today 🤌🏻 and now I'm baking sweet potato slices and have some Jamaican jerk seasoned drumsticks frying up in a pan.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 05:51 PM (kpS4V)
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Test runs for the MoMe menu are currently being run.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:26 PM
Mmmm.....
*checks calendar*
3 months.
*haz a sad*
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 05:26 PM
Mmmm.....
*checks calendar*
3 months.
*haz a sad*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 05:52 PM (Wnv9h)
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Your pan is too small!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 05:48 PM (pxXMV)
That’s what she said.
Nope, same pan, different outcome. I think I skimped on the paprika and saffron.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 05:48 PM (pxXMV)
That’s what she said.
Nope, same pan, different outcome. I think I skimped on the paprika and saffron.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 13, 2025 05:54 PM (rdTCV)
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Hi friends! Errands have been run, rugs vacuumed, even sat in the pool. Dinner? No idea since it will be just me until Wednesday when I head to the mountains, too. Korean bbq Chicken? Fruit? Nothing?
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 05:55 PM (p4NUW)
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Here's a little holdover from today's Book Thread. It's a passage describing ONE COURSE at a feast in The Once and Future King.
"ballock broth, caudle ferry, lampreys en galentine, oysters in civey, eels in sorre, baked trout, brawn in mustard, mumbles of a hart, pigs, farsed, cockintryce, goose in hoggepotte, venison in frumenty, hens in brewet, roast squirrels, haggis, capon-neck pudding, garbage, tripe, blaundesorye, caboges, buttered worts, apple mousse, gingerbread, fruit tart, blancmange, quinces in comfit, stilton cheese, and causs boby"
Enjoy!
"ballock broth, caudle ferry, lampreys en galentine, oysters in civey, eels in sorre, baked trout, brawn in mustard, mumbles of a hart, pigs, farsed, cockintryce, goose in hoggepotte, venison in frumenty, hens in brewet, roast squirrels, haggis, capon-neck pudding, garbage, tripe, blaundesorye, caboges, buttered worts, apple mousse, gingerbread, fruit tart, blancmange, quinces in comfit, stilton cheese, and causs boby"
Enjoy!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 05:57 PM (IBQGV)
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Von's/Safeway has large eggs at 2.99/dz with a digital coupon. Buy limit is two, but that should get me through my final weeks here.
Clearing out the freezer in preparation of the Great Eastern Migration. Gotta start buying just enough groceries for the next couple weeks. I see a something good on sale, and my first impulse is to stock up. Must resist that..
Clearing out the freezer in preparation of the Great Eastern Migration. Gotta start buying just enough groceries for the next couple weeks. I see a something good on sale, and my first impulse is to stock up. Must resist that..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 06:00 PM (bA75n)
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9 Sweet tea should not be too sweet. On a hot summer day in the South it's just the thing. I understand that it has electrolytes.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 04
It has minimal electrolytes. Black tea does have antioxidants, so we might could stretch it there. Sweet tea shouldn’t taste like syrup, the sugar does balance the bitterness of strong black tea and it would provide an energy boost, because sugar does that. Adding sugar to unsweetened tea is not the same thing. You have to add it while the water boils. It just is the way it’s done.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 04
It has minimal electrolytes. Black tea does have antioxidants, so we might could stretch it there. Sweet tea shouldn’t taste like syrup, the sugar does balance the bitterness of strong black tea and it would provide an energy boost, because sugar does that. Adding sugar to unsweetened tea is not the same thing. You have to add it while the water boils. It just is the way it’s done.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 06:02 PM (p4NUW)
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Your little wine competition reminds me of something that Mark Twain wrote in A Tramp Abroad:
"The Germans are exceedingly fond of Rhine wines; they are put up in tall, slender bottles, and are considered a pleasant beverage. One tells them from vinegar by the label."
"The Germans are exceedingly fond of Rhine wines; they are put up in tall, slender bottles, and are considered a pleasant beverage. One tells them from vinegar by the label."
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 06:03 PM (M7GJP)
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My favorite iced tea is the Thai variety. Also called milk tea, since it's sweetened with condensed milk. The correct answer to the boba option is a friendly but firm, "no".
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 06:07 PM (bA75n)
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Never underestimate the value of a good red wine vinegar.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 06:07 PM (HFcKg)
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Clearing out the freezer in preparation of the Great Eastern Migration. Gotta start buying just enough groceries for the next couple weeks. I see a something good on sale, and my first impulse is to stock up. Must resist that..
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Congrats on your un-assing.
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Congrats on your un-assing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 06:10 PM (dR6yv)
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124 Never underestimate the value of a good red wine vinegar.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 06:07 PM (HFcKg)
But not as a beverage, unless it's on a dare.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 06:07 PM (HFcKg)
But not as a beverage, unless it's on a dare.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 06:10 PM (M7GJP)
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Clearing out the freezer in preparation of the Great Eastern Migration. Gotta start buying just enough groceries for the next couple weeks. I see a something good on sale, and my first impulse is to stock up. Must resist that..
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Good on you!
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Good on you!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 13, 2025 06:11 PM (XxzvJ)
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123 My favorite iced tea is the Thai variety. Also called milk tea, since it's sweetened with condensed milk. The correct answer to the boba option is a friendly but firm, "no".
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 06:07 PM (bA75n)
Want to talk about sweet! This stuff is insane.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 06:07 PM (bA75n)
Want to talk about sweet! This stuff is insane.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 06:12 PM (p4NUW)
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I've made shaksuka and loved it. And I am all thumbs in the kitchen.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 13, 2025 06:14 PM (kTd/k)
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My favorite iced tea is the Thai variety. Also called milk tea, since it's sweetened with condensed milk. The correct answer to the boba option is a friendly but firm, "no".
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025
Is it orange?
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025
Is it orange?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 13, 2025 06:15 PM (kTd/k)
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Will that be cheaper than buying it? Flavor?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (xp7+v)
It's cheaper and better. You can strain it after and make it super thick.
I do 4 quarts at a time. The neighbors and wife love it. You can flavor it any way you like. Do it after it's done and set
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 05:14 PM (xp7+v)
It's cheaper and better. You can strain it after and make it super thick.
I do 4 quarts at a time. The neighbors and wife love it. You can flavor it any way you like. Do it after it's done and set
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 13, 2025 06:17 PM (WF/xn)
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Perfessor Skwerl, I am not familiar with "cockintryce", but I assume it's this:
"A cockatrice is a mythical creature, typically depicted as a two-legged dragon, wyvern, or serpent with the head of a rooster. It is known for its petrifying gaze or venomous bite, which can turn living creatures to stone."
You'd have to sneak up on that jasper and dispatch him from behind.
"A cockatrice is a mythical creature, typically depicted as a two-legged dragon, wyvern, or serpent with the head of a rooster. It is known for its petrifying gaze or venomous bite, which can turn living creatures to stone."
You'd have to sneak up on that jasper and dispatch him from behind.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 06:18 PM (kpS4V)
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Pate like it's 1999!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 06:18 PM (6iDFM)
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"The Germans are exceedingly fond of Rhine wines; they are put up in tall, slender bottles, and are considered a pleasant beverage. One tells them from vinegar by the label."
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 06:03 PM (M7GJP)
17 glasses, Rhine wine
Milk of the Madonna
Clandestine.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 06:03 PM (M7GJP)
17 glasses, Rhine wine
Milk of the Madonna
Clandestine.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 06:19 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 06:20 PM (6iDFM)
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I've been caramelizing onions for everything from salmon patties to salsa. For some reason, this summer's crop of red and yellow onions give me stomach pains if raw.
Now I'm kind of hooked.
Now I'm kind of hooked.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 13, 2025 06:21 PM (XxzvJ)
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Is it orange?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 13, 2025 06:15 PM (kTd/k)
'tis..
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 13, 2025 06:15 PM (kTd/k)
'tis..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 06:22 PM (bA75n)
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The Germans are exceedingly fond of festive little hats.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 06:23 PM (7gV/K)
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We were visiting family up in supper-club central, which is Sawyer county Wisconsin, way way up in the north woods.
We left this morning to return to far NW IL, and took the cheese route south, a whole lot of linked county roads (H, G, M, F, oops, bridge out, take Y) and our first stop was Thorp, WI, population 1710, home of Marieke Cheese Family Farm. I dropped close to $100 on their 1000-day aged gouda. The next stop way down from there, in the town of Mauston (say "mouse," cheesehead) to visit Carr Valley Cheese Co., where we got six or eight items, among which is their cave-aged cheddar.
The Canada wildfires have ruined the air the past couple days, with indices up in the 160+ range. We intended yesterday, up on the 17,000 acre impoundment lake called the Chippewa Flowage, to go ride a boat with a nature-loving couple who are as deep into loons as can be, but the lake air was so dirty you couldn't see the opposite shore across even short reaches. We cancelled.
We left this morning to return to far NW IL, and took the cheese route south, a whole lot of linked county roads (H, G, M, F, oops, bridge out, take Y) and our first stop was Thorp, WI, population 1710, home of Marieke Cheese Family Farm. I dropped close to $100 on their 1000-day aged gouda. The next stop way down from there, in the town of Mauston (say "mouse," cheesehead) to visit Carr Valley Cheese Co., where we got six or eight items, among which is their cave-aged cheddar.
The Canada wildfires have ruined the air the past couple days, with indices up in the 160+ range. We intended yesterday, up on the 17,000 acre impoundment lake called the Chippewa Flowage, to go ride a boat with a nature-loving couple who are as deep into loons as can be, but the lake air was so dirty you couldn't see the opposite shore across even short reaches. We cancelled.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 13, 2025 06:28 PM (zeLd4)
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Perfessor Skwerl, I am not familiar with "cockintryce", but I assume it's this:
"A cockatrice is a mythical creature, typically depicted as a two-legged dragon, wyvern, or serpent with the head of a rooster. It is known for its petrifying gaze or venomous bite, which can turn living creatures to stone."
You'd have to sneak up on that jasper and dispatch him from behind.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 06:18 PM (kpS4V)
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Mythical creatures do exist in the story (dragons, giants, etc.) so yeah, I think you are correct. Not sure if I'd want to eat something that can turn you to stone with its gaze, though.
"A cockatrice is a mythical creature, typically depicted as a two-legged dragon, wyvern, or serpent with the head of a rooster. It is known for its petrifying gaze or venomous bite, which can turn living creatures to stone."
You'd have to sneak up on that jasper and dispatch him from behind.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 06:18 PM (kpS4V)
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Mythical creatures do exist in the story (dragons, giants, etc.) so yeah, I think you are correct. Not sure if I'd want to eat something that can turn you to stone with its gaze, though.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 06:30 PM (IBQGV)
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AZ deplorable moron, where's the sale on the 11 SCT?
Paypal is easy. If you are patient you can figure the way through their menus to do a one-time payment without "registering"
At least they did a while ago.
I finally gave up trying to navigate to it and registered and it's been fine for me (so far). It's the only place that has my CC info.
AZ deplorable moron, where's the sale on the 11 SCT?
Paypal is easy. If you are patient you can figure the way through their menus to do a one-time payment without "registering"
At least they did a while ago.
I finally gave up trying to navigate to it and registered and it's been fine for me (so far). It's the only place that has my CC info.
Posted by: pawn at July 13, 2025 06:33 PM (QB+5g)
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125 Clearing out the freezer in preparation of the Great Eastern Migration. Gotta start buying just enough groceries for the next couple weeks. I see a something good on sale, and my first impulse is to stock up. Must resist that..
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Congrats on your un-assing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 06:10 PM (dR6yv)
Which state are you headed to?
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Congrats on your un-assing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 13, 2025 06:10 PM (dR6yv)
Which state are you headed to?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 13, 2025 06:33 PM (tOcjL)
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Wyvern. Why?
Posted by: Ernest P. Worrell at July 13, 2025 06:37 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 06:38 PM (pxXMV)
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Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 13, 2025 06:17 PM (WF/xn)
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Awesome. I learned something.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 13, 2025 06:17 PM (WF/xn)
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Awesome. I learned something.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 06:39 PM (xp7+v)
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Thanks for the threads CBD!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 06:43 PM (pxXMV)
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Dinner tonight is bar bites at Dave & Buster's as we celebrate Boy F. 's 25th birthday
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 06:43 PM (RIvkX)
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Breakfast potatoes. Here is a list of ingredients our Collier county FL locally owned chain, Skillets, lists for the menu item they call Skillets potatoes.
Potatoes, milk, cream, cream cheese, and chives. When presented, the dish looks sort of like a small omelet, like they took a thick potato pancake and folded it in half. Forking into the thing, you can see the cream cheese in the center, not a thick dollop, just a thin layer.
I wonder if they mix the dairy items together with a whip, measures such that the mix is like a light cake frosting, fold in the chives, and smear it onto a pancake, then fold, then finish in oven.
Whatcha think?
Potatoes, milk, cream, cream cheese, and chives. When presented, the dish looks sort of like a small omelet, like they took a thick potato pancake and folded it in half. Forking into the thing, you can see the cream cheese in the center, not a thick dollop, just a thin layer.
I wonder if they mix the dairy items together with a whip, measures such that the mix is like a light cake frosting, fold in the chives, and smear it onto a pancake, then fold, then finish in oven.
Whatcha think?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 13, 2025 06:47 PM (zeLd4)
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SanFranpsycho, a raised glass in honor of. BOY F.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 13, 2025 06:50 PM (HFcKg)
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Thank you dear {Ben Had} he is a great kid
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 06:52 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: PJ at July 13, 2025 06:52 PM (RRCAT)
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Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 06:43 PM (RIvkX)
Happy Birthday to Young Man Franpsycho! That is my son's age. I hope you all have a happy and festive evening and may the compassionate Lord bless you all!
Happy Birthday to Young Man Franpsycho! That is my son's age. I hope you all have a happy and festive evening and may the compassionate Lord bless you all!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 06:55 PM (2GCMq)
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Just back from my nephew's baby's baptism. The mom's family had a reception after the ceremony that was catered by and excellent Italian restaurant. I might not need to eat until Wednesday.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 07:03 PM (viF8m)
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Thank you dear {Fen}
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 07:06 PM (RIvkX)
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God bless your baby nephew and his family, JackStraw! I'm glad too that they fed everybody for this special occasion!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 07:07 PM (2GCMq)
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Thank you Fen. It was very encouraging. 3 babies and a very cute little girl all being baptised. A lot of young people in that church which made me happy.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 07:10 PM (viF8m)
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"A cockatrice is a mythical creature, typically depicted as a two-legged dragon, wyvern, or serpent with the head of a rooster. It is known for its petrifying gaze or venomous bite, which can turn living creatures to stone."
You'd have to sneak up on that jasper and dispatch him from behind.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 06:18 PM (kpS4V)
Internetz says it's this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockentrice
Pre-dates the turducken. You get cock and suckling pig with this one.
You'd have to sneak up on that jasper and dispatch him from behind.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 06:18 PM (kpS4V)
Internetz says it's this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockentrice
Pre-dates the turducken. You get cock and suckling pig with this one.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 07:10 PM (/HDaX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (2GCMq)
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CBD, are the Bordeaux in France as expensive there as they are here in the states? Or is that just part of the import magic?
Posted by: Advo at July 13, 2025 10:31 PM (jO4mz)
First World Problems...
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Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:01 PM (+qU29)
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Not first (world problem)!
Posted by: jayhawkone at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (9rPx3)
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You got cheese, right?
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (jc0TO)
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Welcome to Europe CBD, all of Europe is out for a month
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (+qU29)
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I thought Europe closes during August.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 02:04 PM (28cZF)
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Bienvenue la France
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 02:04 PM (vm8sq)
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So nobody eats for a month?
Posted by: Cosda at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM (bTjur)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM (pxXMV)
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All of Formula one packs it in for a month, no testing, no planning nothing allowed for a month.
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM (+qU29)
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Welcome to Europe CBD, all of Europe is out for a month
I wonder if "new" Europe (Poland, CR, etc) take the same vacations. My guess, and that's all it is, is that they don't. That's why they're going to overtake "old" Europe economically.
I wonder if "new" Europe (Poland, CR, etc) take the same vacations. My guess, and that's all it is, is that they don't. That's why they're going to overtake "old" Europe economically.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2025 02:06 PM (Riz8t)
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So nobody eats for a month?
Posted by: Cosda at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM
It's the annual Carousel when they get rid of their elderly.
Posted by: Cosda at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM
It's the annual Carousel when they get rid of their elderly.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:06 PM (jc0TO)
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Wow. A month-long vacay?
I took 4 consecutive weeks of PTO once.. to quietly check out another job without quitting the original. (Good thing, because 'new' job wasn't as good as claimed.)
I took 4 consecutive weeks of PTO once.. to quietly check out another job without quitting the original. (Good thing, because 'new' job wasn't as good as claimed.)
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (rdVOm)
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It's the last week of July to last week of August about. Not a pure calendar month
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (+qU29)
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11 So nobody eats for a month?
Posted by: Cosda at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM
It's the annual Carousel when they get rid of their elderly.
What?
*looks around nervously*
Posted by: Cosda at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM
It's the annual Carousel when they get rid of their elderly.
What?
*looks around nervously*
Posted by: Brigitte Macron at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (Riz8t)
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I don't even know what they sell in the reputed best bakery in my town. They're only open on Tuesdays and Saturdays, they close when they run out -- usually around 1:30 -- and there's an eternal line out front that I've never been in the mood for. Oh yeah, the line goes down after maybe noon and you can walk in but it's all dark bread and stuff that I don't want.
Maybe I'll join the line early some morning and make my way into the shop to see what all the fuss is about.
I don't even know what they sell in the reputed best bakery in my town. They're only open on Tuesdays and Saturdays, they close when they run out -- usually around 1:30 -- and there's an eternal line out front that I've never been in the mood for. Oh yeah, the line goes down after maybe noon and you can walk in but it's all dark bread and stuff that I don't want.
Maybe I'll join the line early some morning and make my way into the shop to see what all the fuss is about.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (xp7+v)
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30 day dry-aged pork. The best in the land.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (/lPRQ)
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Is France a first world country?
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 02:08 PM (vFG9F)
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So nobody eats for a month?
Posted by: Cosda
It's how they keep their figures. CBD's reason for being there for a while.
Off to gardening.
Posted by: Cosda
It's how they keep their figures. CBD's reason for being there for a while.
Off to gardening.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 02:08 PM (n4GiU)
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Nice looking pork chop.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 02:08 PM (n4GiU)
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This is why they have 400 kinds of cheese.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:08 PM (jc0TO)
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It's August. Never go to Europe in August. They're all somewhere else.
Posted by: Captain Ned at July 13, 2025 02:09 PM (nADdg)
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Yes, we have no fatporkchops, we have no fatporkchops today!
Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2025 02:09 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:10 PM (jc0TO)
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Yes. The ways of the cheese eating surrender monkeys are a major first world problem.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:11 PM (lPvx2)
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I used to get "beer sticks" from St Paul Pioneer Sausage to go up to the cabin with. I moved away from MN and on one of my return trips up there I found out they closed up shop. They were the best beef stick known to man.
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 13, 2025 02:11 PM (ycs3a)
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It must be France, the country that some years ago left old people in the city to sweat and die will they vacationed at the beach or cooler places. The French are a different and strange people. If they were an animal they would be something like a eastern/western mixed breed. Unique.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:12 PM (KFYyV)
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Nice looking chop.
There's a local farm that periodically sells pork products (sausage, chops, etc.) at the Farmer's Markets that are particularly good.
There's a local farm that periodically sells pork products (sausage, chops, etc.) at the Farmer's Markets that are particularly good.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 02:12 PM (Q4IgG)
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I used to get "beer sticks" from St Paul Pioneer Sausage
Is this a typo or a real thing? Because I am intrigued.
Is this a typo or a real thing? Because I am intrigued.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:12 PM (jc0TO)
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13 It's the last week of July to last week of August about. Not a pure calendar month
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (+qU29)
I took 30 days carryover leave, 30 days current year leave, and 30 days convalescence leave. Showed back up just in time to tie up loose ends for retirement and get my last DD 214.
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (+qU29)
I took 30 days carryover leave, 30 days current year leave, and 30 days convalescence leave. Showed back up just in time to tie up loose ends for retirement and get my last DD 214.
Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2025 02:15 PM (LHPAg)
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My FWP today is I just got finished shopping at Kroger and I couldn't access the digital coupons on my phone. Cost me about $15 or more in savings.
I hate having to have a discount card and have to pull up the digital coupons.
I think that's why a lot of people like HEB. HEB Cards and HEB digital coupons don't exist. Pricing reflects all those things. And when they do have a coupon special it's physically on a hook by the product that you just tear off.
I hate having to have a discount card and have to pull up the digital coupons.
I think that's why a lot of people like HEB. HEB Cards and HEB digital coupons don't exist. Pricing reflects all those things. And when they do have a coupon special it's physically on a hook by the product that you just tear off.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:15 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)
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Posted by: Eromero at July 13, 2025 02:15 PM (LHPAg)
Congratulations! Hope you have things you enjoy to keep you busy.
Congratulations! Hope you have things you enjoy to keep you busy.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:16 PM (VofaG)
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1st world problem:
My domestic water (separate from irrigation water) usage is way beyond what it should be...
Dye tablets indicated that it's NOT the toilets running. Meter is running, slowly, even with nothing 'on' in house. No evidence of broken pipe or leak *indoors* which can only mean.....
FK.
That green spot in the yard. Where I haven't watered at all, and it's been over 90F every day but hasn't rained for at least 3 weeks!
fml
My domestic water (separate from irrigation water) usage is way beyond what it should be...
Dye tablets indicated that it's NOT the toilets running. Meter is running, slowly, even with nothing 'on' in house. No evidence of broken pipe or leak *indoors* which can only mean.....
FK.
That green spot in the yard. Where I haven't watered at all, and it's been over 90F every day but hasn't rained for at least 3 weeks!
fml
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 02:17 PM (rdVOm)
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Is this a typo or a real thing? Because I am intrigued.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:12 PM (jc0TO)
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Real thing. They were called that because they made you drink more beer.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:12 PM (jc0TO)
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Real thing. They were called that because they made you drink more beer.
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 13, 2025 02:18 PM (ycs3a)
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y grocery store has lots of BOGO sales.
I'm a sucker for BOGO sales.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)
Me too. I had a few of those today in addition to a big discount on the price if you buy 3 or more.
I'm a sucker for BOGO sales.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)
Me too. I had a few of those today in addition to a big discount on the price if you buy 3 or more.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:18 PM (VofaG)
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I'm a sucker for BOGO sales.
Posted by: toby928
2 elephants for a quarter are only a bargain if you're in the market for 2 elephants.
Dave Ramsey
Posted by: toby928
2 elephants for a quarter are only a bargain if you're in the market for 2 elephants.
Dave Ramsey
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:19 PM (cPGH3)
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My old Brit merchant sailor bud (now gone) told stories of being in France during August. Once, he was in his cups, he came up with the theory the whole country could have been conquered with a bit of timing and a calendar. He told the story of hiring (renting) a Peugeot in August.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 13, 2025 02:19 PM (gm9Sb)
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2 elephants for a quarter are only a bargain if you're in the market for 2 elephants.
Dave Ramsey
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:19 PM
Just so. I end up with double the okra.
I don't even like okra.
Dave Ramsey
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:19 PM
Just so. I end up with double the okra.
I don't even like okra.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:20 PM (jc0TO)
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 02:07 PM (xp7+v)
They're only open Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Is the store just a hobby to them?
Our town had a nice Chinese restaurant Mom and I used to get takeout from occasionally. They were only open 4 hours a day after minimum wage hit $15 an hour.
I thanked the owner one day for staying open IN ONTARIO, CANADA. He said the government wasn't making it easy. They closed shortly after.
They're only open Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Is the store just a hobby to them?
Our town had a nice Chinese restaurant Mom and I used to get takeout from occasionally. They were only open 4 hours a day after minimum wage hit $15 an hour.
I thanked the owner one day for staying open IN ONTARIO, CANADA. He said the government wasn't making it easy. They closed shortly after.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 02:20 PM (jvJvP)
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Just so. I end up with double the okra.
I don't even like okra.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:20 PM (jc0TO)
Heh
I don't even like okra.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:20 PM (jc0TO)
Heh
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:21 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:21 PM (cPGH3)
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Roasted or grilled.
You'll change your mind
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:21 PM
I'm not prepared to be persuaded about the barbed Satan cocks.
You'll change your mind
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:21 PM
I'm not prepared to be persuaded about the barbed Satan cocks.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:21 PM (jc0TO)
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Like Costco. 5 gallon bucket of pickles. $10.00. What a deal!!
The smell of 4 1/2 gallons of picles after 6 months. Priceless.
The smell of 4 1/2 gallons of picles after 6 months. Priceless.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (lPvx2)
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30 My FWP today is I just got finished shopping at Kroger and I couldn't access the digital coupons on my phone. Cost me about $15 or more in savings.
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Kroger is that way as is Walmart. You are part of the product.
They hoover all of your information and sell it.
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Kroger is that way as is Walmart. You are part of the product.
They hoover all of your information and sell it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (KFYyV)
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Formula 1 last race in Hungry is Aug 3, next race after that in Aug 29. But sometimes it ends in July
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (+qU29)
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In the tourist towns in the South of France, they shut down in December. A typical town that has four hotels and only one of them will be open. It probably rotates from year to year. Everyone else goes to Thailand.
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (MtW72)
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I'm not prepared to be persuaded about the barbed Satan cocks.
Posted by: toby928
We're gonna do this. You, yes you!
Hold him down...
Posted by: toby928
We're gonna do this. You, yes you!
Hold him down...
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:23 PM (cPGH3)
Posted by: muldoon at July 13, 2025 02:23 PM (poXs5)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:24 PM (KFYyV)
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Not everyone is upset that the pork shop is closing for a month.
Some people just never loin!
Posted by: muldoon at July 13, 2025 02:23 PM
Worst limerick ever.
Some people just never loin!
Posted by: muldoon at July 13, 2025 02:23 PM
Worst limerick ever.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:24 PM (jc0TO)
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Now that I'm a homeowner for 2 weeks after drama...
1. Garden hoses are a bugger to wrap up.
2. My Roku devices aren't that reliable.
There WILL be more. But I'm very blessed.
I know that.
1. Garden hoses are a bugger to wrap up.
2. My Roku devices aren't that reliable.
There WILL be more. But I'm very blessed.
I know that.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 02:24 PM (jvJvP)
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I saw this this morning on another website, but I can't find that reference now. CBD, you need to come home soon -- Fronce ( and all of the EU ) is going to get very interesting very soon.
https://is.gd/rDj4hE
https://is.gd/rDj4hE
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 02:24 PM (PiwSw)
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If your point is the French are lazy, I'll buy that.
If you're saying their pork products are better than in the Carolinas, you know nothing Jon Snow.
If you're saying their pork products are better than in the Carolinas, you know nothing Jon Snow.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 13, 2025 02:25 PM (wBaIH)
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I like hard good products that are on sale, BOGO or buy X number to get great price. If it can't go bad I will buy a lot.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:25 PM (VofaG)
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https://is.gd/rDj4hE
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 02:24 PM
I would be in favor of the US paying their passage.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 02:24 PM
I would be in favor of the US paying their passage.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:25 PM (jc0TO)
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Formula 1 last race in Hungry is Aug 3, next race after that in Aug 29. But sometimes it ends in July
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (+qU29)
Looks like someone needs the food thread....
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (+qU29)
Looks like someone needs the food thread....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 02:26 PM (S/Y4j)
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46 In the tourist towns in the South of France, they shut down in December. A typical town that has four hotels and only one of them will be open. It probably rotates from year to year. Everyone else goes to Thailand.
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (MtW72)
The ladyboys must be very sore by January.
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (MtW72)
The ladyboys must be very sore by January.
Posted by: merde at July 13, 2025 02:26 PM (XFKxS)
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Mmmm. Just the right amount of fat on that chop to make it extra tasty.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 02:27 PM (g8Ew8)
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Of course the downside is Palestinians with nuclear weapons.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:28 PM (jc0TO)
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Not exactly on topic but reminded me of one of my favorite jokes.
Karen goes into the Butcher shop and complained to the owner that the ground beef price of 8.99 a pound was ridiculous. That the Shop across the street was selling theirs for 5.99 a pound but they were out of it.
The butcher responded ' Madam when I'm out of it it's only 4.99 a pound. '
Karen goes into the Butcher shop and complained to the owner that the ground beef price of 8.99 a pound was ridiculous. That the Shop across the street was selling theirs for 5.99 a pound but they were out of it.
The butcher responded ' Madam when I'm out of it it's only 4.99 a pound. '
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:29 PM (VofaG)
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My FWP
I’m sitting on the beach listening to the baseball game and I have to pee.
And my beer isn’t quite cold enough.
My ham and brie sammich was very good though.
I’m sitting on the beach listening to the baseball game and I have to pee.
And my beer isn’t quite cold enough.
My ham and brie sammich was very good though.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 02:29 PM (h66YK)
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Got to get moving, work this evening
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:30 PM (+qU29)
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I'm sitting right here.
Posted by: Cans of Spam at July 13, 2025 02:31 PM (KLmsn)
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Showed back up just in time to tie up loose ends for retirement and get my last DD 214.
Posted by: Eromero
Well done!
Posted by: Eromero
Well done!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 02:31 PM (pxXMV)
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63 I'm sitting right here.
Posted by: Cans of Spam at July 13, 2025 02:31 PM (KLmsn)
I DON'T LIKE SPAM!!!
Posted by: Cans of Spam at July 13, 2025 02:31 PM (KLmsn)
I DON'T LIKE SPAM!!!
Posted by: Zombie Graham Chapman at July 13, 2025 02:32 PM (PiwSw)
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33 1st world problem:
My domestic water (separate from irrigation water) usage is way beyond what it should be...
Dye tablets indicated that it's NOT the toilets running. Meter is running, slowly, even with nothing 'on' in house. No evidence of broken pipe or leak *indoors* which can only mean.....
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Most places one can turn the water off, to the house, at the meter. When you turn it off and the meter is still running it delivery's problem. If it stops running then it's that green spot that JQ mentioned.
My domestic water (separate from irrigation water) usage is way beyond what it should be...
Dye tablets indicated that it's NOT the toilets running. Meter is running, slowly, even with nothing 'on' in house. No evidence of broken pipe or leak *indoors* which can only mean.....
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Most places one can turn the water off, to the house, at the meter. When you turn it off and the meter is still running it delivery's problem. If it stops running then it's that green spot that JQ mentioned.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:32 PM (KFYyV)
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I hate those digital coupons. I shop Safeway some, they have had the Safeway card via you Ph # for ages but they had to mix in the digital app and it grates on me when something is on special only for that app cuz I never take time to look through the digital specials and 'clip' those coupons before I run to the store. I guess its a good way to keep the leisure class shoppers hooked on the store though. "oh boy, I scored big via my phone app"
Posted by: PaleRider at July 13, 2025 02:33 PM (bP/i4)
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Yeah. Welcome to Europe.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 02:33 PM (g47mK)
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If I were a butcher I'd name my store "Ye Olde Pork Shoppe"
Posted by: muldoon at July 13, 2025 02:34 PM (poXs5)
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I'm looking at a house with a built-up anyone have and opinion or experience?
Skip?
Skip?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:34 PM (KFYyV)
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CBD needs to go south, Côte d'Azur. Maybe there is a butcher shop that is open in July and August...
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 02:35 PM (g47mK)
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Oh, weed whackers are so annoying with those little spools of plastic that break quickly, need to be taken apart, extended and then shorten again a few minutes later.
Can't they use a sturdier material?
I'm cleaning the garage but after renovations last year, I scrubbed the ENTIRE garage to an insane level.
The guard rails of the garage door where the wheels run are still clean. I made OCD people proud. Back to putting things away after they get wiped down.
Can't they use a sturdier material?
I'm cleaning the garage but after renovations last year, I scrubbed the ENTIRE garage to an insane level.
The guard rails of the garage door where the wheels run are still clean. I made OCD people proud. Back to putting things away after they get wiped down.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (jvJvP)
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The Gaza solution is so simple.
Palestine Mandate included Israel and Jordan. All the Jews living in Jordan were evicted and forced to give up their farms and businesses. Making Israel for the Jews...
Jordan is the natural destination for Arabs living in Israel. Gazans can even walk there. From the Sea to the River.
Palestine Mandate included Israel and Jordan. All the Jews living in Jordan were evicted and forced to give up their farms and businesses. Making Israel for the Jews...
Jordan is the natural destination for Arabs living in Israel. Gazans can even walk there. From the Sea to the River.
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (MtW72)
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My FWP... I have to replace one of our decks and have the other one re-decked. I fell though a rotten part of one about two weeks ago. Not all the way through, but one leg. I'm lucky I didn't break a hip, leg and foot.
Two trips to Urgent Care.
Still beat up. But... mobile.
The real FWP? Being told the costs are inflated due to "tariffs." FML
Two trips to Urgent Care.
Still beat up. But... mobile.
The real FWP? Being told the costs are inflated due to "tariffs." FML
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (Q4IgG)
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I'm looking at a house with a built-up anyone have and opinion or experience?
Skip?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:34 PM (KFYyV
What's a built up?
Skip?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:34 PM (KFYyV
What's a built up?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (VofaG)
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Roof. Built-up roof.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (KFYyV)
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64 Showed back up just in time to tie up loose ends for retirement and get my last DD 214.
Posted by: Eromero
Well done!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 02:31 PM (pxXMV)
Pfft. Some of us figured out how to get that last DD214 after only 4 years. "Retirement" would imply like 20 or more years.
Slackers.
Posted by: Eromero
Well done!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 02:31 PM (pxXMV)
Pfft. Some of us figured out how to get that last DD214 after only 4 years. "Retirement" would imply like 20 or more years.
Slackers.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (lPvx2)
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Sunny and 69 on the beach. I guess I got no complaints.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 02:36 PM (h66YK)
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If I was a butcher I would call my shop..Chop 'Til You Drop.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 02:37 PM (g47mK)
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Most places one can turn the water off, to the house, at the meter. When you turn it off and the meter is still running it delivery's problem. If it stops running then it's that green spot that JQ mentioned.
Posted by: Braenyard -
Here, the shutoff is between the meter and the house.
Shut off the house, and meter still spins?
Not your problem (thank God).
Shut it off, and the meter stops? Leak in the delivery line.
I had to put copper in for my service (City code, for over 400 feet). I hated it then, but love it now.
Posted by: Braenyard -
Here, the shutoff is between the meter and the house.
Shut off the house, and meter still spins?
Not your problem (thank God).
Shut it off, and the meter stops? Leak in the delivery line.
I had to put copper in for my service (City code, for over 400 feet). I hated it then, but love it now.
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 02:38 PM (cPGH3)
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And a bald eagle just flew by.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 02:38 PM (h66YK)
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The real FWP? Being told the costs are inflated due to "tariffs." FML
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Jacking up prices on pre-tariff wood.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Jacking up prices on pre-tariff wood.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:38 PM (KFYyV)
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Butcher would be a good name for a biker lesbo bar.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:38 PM (VofaG)
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What's a built-up roof? Is that a nail-over?
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:39 PM (jc0TO)
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Ah, it's a flat roof. I thought the thing now was seamless membrane under the tar.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:41 PM (jc0TO)
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Built-Up ???
Get up top early in morning and/or later at night with a FLIR / thermo camera.
Hot / cold spots will be your leaks. Water gets in and the wet spots stat hot or cold longer.
Get up top early in morning and/or later at night with a FLIR / thermo camera.
Hot / cold spots will be your leaks. Water gets in and the wet spots stat hot or cold longer.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 02:41 PM (/lPRQ)
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Pfft. Some of us figured out how to get that last DD214 after only 4 years.
Posted by: Reforger
4Years 3months, had to extend for a cruise so I didn't stay at Lemoore NAS through the summer.
Posted by: Reforger
4Years 3months, had to extend for a cruise so I didn't stay at Lemoore NAS through the summer.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 02:42 PM (pxXMV)
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Built-up is the term for a flat roof. Usually on commercial or institutional buildings. The house is gorgeous but I'm thinking that the roof is why it's even close to my price range.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:42 PM (KFYyV)
Posted by: Stephen Stills at July 13, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)
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Ah, it's a flat roof. I thought the thing now was seamless membrane under the tar.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:41 PM (jc0TO)
I had a polyurethane membrane put over my tar roof. They laid a styrofoam type product down first.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:41 PM (jc0TO)
I had a polyurethane membrane put over my tar roof. They laid a styrofoam type product down first.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:43 PM (VofaG)
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Braenyard -- turn off the valve at street & meter stops.
It's the green spot: 'my side' of the equation. Fk.
It's the green spot: 'my side' of the equation. Fk.
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 02:43 PM (rdVOm)
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And a bald eagle just flew by.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 02:38 PM
With a dove?
Posted by: Stephen Stills at July 13, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)
A river otter? A small pig (for some fresh pork chops)?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 02:38 PM
With a dove?
Posted by: Stephen Stills at July 13, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)
A river otter? A small pig (for some fresh pork chops)?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 02:43 PM (S/Y4j)
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Oh, weed whackers are so annoying with those little spools of plastic that break quickly, need to be taken apart, extended and then shorten again a few minutes later.
Can't they use a sturdier material?
I saw an ad somewhere for a product that was metal wire to replace the monofilament. They looked pretty dangerous for your ankles and fencing etc
Can't they use a sturdier material?
I saw an ad somewhere for a product that was metal wire to replace the monofilament. They looked pretty dangerous for your ankles and fencing etc
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (MtW72)
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We get well over a hundred inches of rain a year here. Flat roofs are no bueno so I know nothing of them.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (jc0TO)
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JQ--
We just had a water leak in the service line repaired this week. Our water company alerted us to the problem while they were checking leaks in their system. Mercifully it was before we ran up a big bill but we still had to shut off the water until it could be repaired.
Miraculously our regular plumbers were available the next morning and by lunchtime we were back on line. It actually turned out to be a blessing because they discovered several different problems and were able to fix them all on one service all.
But, yes, a definite PITA.
We just had a water leak in the service line repaired this week. Our water company alerted us to the problem while they were checking leaks in their system. Mercifully it was before we ran up a big bill but we still had to shut off the water until it could be repaired.
Miraculously our regular plumbers were available the next morning and by lunchtime we were back on line. It actually turned out to be a blessing because they discovered several different problems and were able to fix them all on one service all.
But, yes, a definite PITA.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (FEVMW)
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My FWP for today is that there's a Rocket Lab launch - in Virginia - this afternoon, but it won't be shown online.
How would you like to work at a place launching rockets called Wallops?
How would you like to work at a place launching rockets called Wallops?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 02:45 PM (S/Y4j)
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>>> Built-up is the term for a flat roof.
Built-up is when the roofing is multiple laters of tar-paper and hot mopped asphalt.
Flat roofing can also be modified bituminous, HDPE, PVC, etc.
Built-up is when the roofing is multiple laters of tar-paper and hot mopped asphalt.
Flat roofing can also be modified bituminous, HDPE, PVC, etc.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 02:45 PM (/lPRQ)
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They were the best beef stick known to man.
Posted by: Life of Wryly
How you say, I beg to differ!
Posted by: Life of Wryly
How you say, I beg to differ!
Posted by: The Paolo at July 13, 2025 02:46 PM (G5+As)
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Never had a problem with my flat roof after I had it redone. 11 years and sold it this year.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:46 PM (VofaG)
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I have a city owned tree about 5 feet from my service shutoff and meter. I've noticed the meter has moved a bit over the years. I mention this to a city water guy at a open house where he has a meter they had to cut out with roots wrapped around it.
"That's probably about what mine looks like."
"Well we need to get out there and fix that."
I'm still waiting. It'll be cool because they're going to have to take out one of the two trees I need to take out to get the old manufactured house off the lot and put a new one on.
Save me probably $10,000.
I hope anyway.
"That's probably about what mine looks like."
"Well we need to get out there and fix that."
I'm still waiting. It'll be cool because they're going to have to take out one of the two trees I need to take out to get the old manufactured house off the lot and put a new one on.
Save me probably $10,000.
I hope anyway.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:46 PM (lPvx2)
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>>>It's the green spot: 'my side' of the equation. Fk.
Posted by: JQ
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You don't have to replace the whole line. They can did out that one spot and replace the leaking spot. According to the condition of the pipe determination can be made whether to replace all the line.
How long you intend to stay there is a consideration.
Posted by: JQ
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You don't have to replace the whole line. They can did out that one spot and replace the leaking spot. According to the condition of the pipe determination can be made whether to replace all the line.
How long you intend to stay there is a consideration.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:49 PM (KFYyV)
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Now THAT is a pork chop!
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 02:49 PM (rF2iL)
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Sounds like someone should have stocked up on pork related items before the butcher took a vacation.
In my company, our Paris HQ takes the month of August off. Makes for interesting times trying to get in touch with someone.
In my company, our Paris HQ takes the month of August off. Makes for interesting times trying to get in touch with someone.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 02:50 PM (0XVad)
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I need to call a plumber, I guess.. ?
I'm in no shape to be digging up the yard. Water line is down about 2 or 3 feet and, iirc, not at all in a straight line from meter to house.
Hubs hit it once with a trencher, when we were adding power to the shop. Didn't expect it to be *there* but we were able to patch it ourselves.
I'm in no shape to be digging up the yard. Water line is down about 2 or 3 feet and, iirc, not at all in a straight line from meter to house.
Hubs hit it once with a trencher, when we were adding power to the shop. Didn't expect it to be *there* but we were able to patch it ourselves.
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 02:51 PM (rdVOm)
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The utility companies offer insurance coverage for water leaks and gas leaks because they aren't responsible once the service exits their service line. Cost about 15-17 a month for both. I just got the water line insurance since the cost of repair between the meter and where the water enters my house would be about 8-9k to dig up and repair/replace ( under concrete)
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 02:52 PM (VofaG)
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They were the best beef stick known to man.
Posted by: Life of Wryly
How you say, I beg to differ!
Posted by: The Paolo at July 13, 2025 02:46 PM
Paolo, they said "known to man" not "known to woman".
Or, given your iconic status here, is there something we should know?
Posted by: Life of Wryly
How you say, I beg to differ!
Posted by: The Paolo at July 13, 2025 02:46 PM
Paolo, they said "known to man" not "known to woman".
Or, given your iconic status here, is there something we should know?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 13, 2025 02:53 PM (0sNs1)
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If our water service offered "insurance" for the line, I'd have it. But they don't. I'm screwed.
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 02:56 PM (rdVOm)
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Or, given your iconic status here, is there something we should know?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher
Republicans buy shoes, too!
Posted by: Wesley Crusher
Republicans buy shoes, too!
Posted by: The Paolo! at July 13, 2025 02:56 PM (G5+As)
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I don't care all that much for pork chops. I'm sure that's because I get them from the local grocery store, where they may as well be made from cardboard. They are so flavorless.
Posted by: Bring on the Bugs! at July 13, 2025 02:58 PM (gMiXt)
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It doesn't matter what team a politician is on - at a certain point, they have to deliver (or appear to) on quality of life or there is no national appeal.
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 13, 2025 02:58 PM (KAi1n)
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Yeah, The Paolo. You're not getting out of that one with a "shut up Wesley".
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:59 PM (lPvx2)
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I spent July 14 to July 21 in Italy two years ago, using Venice as the base of operations; didn’t notice anything out of the order closure-wise, even in the smaller towns like Treviso.
Strike-wise, it was a different story.
Strike-wise, it was a different story.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 13, 2025 03:00 PM (EXyHK)
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Got to go now. Will check later.
It's probably 100ft from meter to water entry on house. No concrete,-- but septic drain field, buried phone and shop power lines in the path. Maybe just abandon existing and re-route? I dunno. It's old plastic pipe...
This is gonna be expensive, no doubt. But what the h3ll, it's only money, right?
*deep, heaving sobs*
It's probably 100ft from meter to water entry on house. No concrete,-- but septic drain field, buried phone and shop power lines in the path. Maybe just abandon existing and re-route? I dunno. It's old plastic pipe...
This is gonna be expensive, no doubt. But what the h3ll, it's only money, right?
*deep, heaving sobs*
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 03:01 PM (rdVOm)
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I like what I think are called breakfast pork chops even though we would have them for dinner frequently. The small thin pork chops. Favorite as a kid. I could eat 3 or 4 at a sitting easily, Dad would fry them . Eventually shake and bake came out😀.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 03:01 PM (VofaG)
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Not that this information is particularly useful for anyone here, but I have a report on my California-initiated FWP that I complained about this past spring. Because everything causes cancer in California, my favorite sensitive-skin shower gel was reformulated. Fortunately, the new formula, which has eight ingredients vs. the old one with five, is still mild, non-irritating, and clean-rinsing. Last time they reformulated under duress, their (temporary) formula change included a preservative that can cause allergic reactions. Fortunately, they were "allowed" to revert to their previous formula after that fiasco.
Anyway, the shower gel is AFM SafeChoice Shampoo and Body Wash. In the meantime, I discovered that I can tolerate plain beef tallow soap.
I wish California would leave the rest of us alone.
Anyway, the shower gel is AFM SafeChoice Shampoo and Body Wash. In the meantime, I discovered that I can tolerate plain beef tallow soap.
I wish California would leave the rest of us alone.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 03:03 PM (rF2iL)
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Wallops! Damn! I better get to the beach.
Our place in Queens is flat with about a 10" change in elevation from the front to the back where the gutter is. No issues.
I don't understand why there are so many pitched roofs and hips around here.
Our place in Queens is flat with about a 10" change in elevation from the front to the back where the gutter is. No issues.
I don't understand why there are so many pitched roofs and hips around here.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 03:04 PM (6cOjz)
Posted by: Hangry Hank at July 13, 2025 03:05 PM (G5+As)
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"25 I used to get "beer sticks" from St Paul Pioneer Sausage to go up to the cabin with. I moved away from MN and on one of my return trips up there I found out they closed up shop. They were the best beef stick known to man.
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 13, 2025 02:11 PM (ycs3a) "
try Wisconsin River Meats outside of Mauston ... they have a number of products along those lines; their landjager (only one I've tried) is excellent
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 13, 2025 02:11 PM (ycs3a) "
try Wisconsin River Meats outside of Mauston ... they have a number of products along those lines; their landjager (only one I've tried) is excellent
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 03:05 PM (dKEEs)
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Launch is 7:45 and it's an Electron, a smallish one.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 03:07 PM (6cOjz)
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agreed, Emmie, beef tallow soap is great stuff!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 03:08 PM (dKEEs)
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front to the back where the gutter is. No issues.
I don't understand why there are so many pitched roofs and hips around here.
Posted by: Accomack
Snow weight
I don't understand why there are so many pitched roofs and hips around here.
Posted by: Accomack
Snow weight
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 03:09 PM (n4GiU)
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I read that Sydney Sweeney is slated to be one of the next "Bond girls". She'll be fantastic in that role. Perfect for her. Other than her physical attributes, she has a great sense of humor.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 03:09 PM (g47mK)
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I always get a kick out of the productivity comparisons between the US and the EU. They will always say that the US has a tiny lead in that category, but if you keep reading, you will see that their comparison usually has a modifier applied to address the "hiatus" that is common in the EU. Hours worked isn't an affectation. It's a key component of productivity.
So, essentially, what they're saying that the US is more productive than the EU (even if you skew the numbers to modify work hours), and the US absolutely crushes the EU on productivity if you are being honest.
So, essentially, what they're saying that the US is more productive than the EU (even if you skew the numbers to modify work hours), and the US absolutely crushes the EU on productivity if you are being honest.
Posted by: Orson at July 13, 2025 03:10 PM (dIske)
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Granny's lye soap she rendered/boiled in a kettle by the cement pond was wonderful stuff, but the smell irritated Margaret Drysdale to no end.
Posted by: Old Ways Are Best at July 13, 2025 03:10 PM (G5+As)
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agreed, Emmie, beef tallow soap is great stuff!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
I use a beef tallow balm called Everything Balm when my face gets overly dry. Great stuff. It's made by a company called Primarily Pure.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
I use a beef tallow balm called Everything Balm when my face gets overly dry. Great stuff. It's made by a company called Primarily Pure.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:11 PM (lJ0H4)
126
I saw an ad somewhere for a product that was metal wire to replace the monofilament. They looked pretty dangerous for your ankles and fencing etc
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (MtW72)
That's what I always thought would be better. I don't have fencing so I be willing to risk it.
This was interesting. I'm in Canada. I put a bag of open ice melt outside. It's about 90 degrees out. It was actually melting. The unopened bag is fine.
I pitched it. Garbage day tomorrow.
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (MtW72)
That's what I always thought would be better. I don't have fencing so I be willing to risk it.
This was interesting. I'm in Canada. I put a bag of open ice melt outside. It's about 90 degrees out. It was actually melting. The unopened bag is fine.
I pitched it. Garbage day tomorrow.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 03:11 PM (jvJvP)
127
Down here I mean Accomack county, Va. We are hardiness 8b
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 03:12 PM (6cOjz)
128
CBD be careful tomorrow, it could get sporty with the new immigrants tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 03:12 PM (+qU29)
129
This is gonna be expensive, no doubt. But what the h3ll, it's only money, right?
*deep, heaving sobs*
Posted by: JQ
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If it's plastic, splice it.
I thought it may be rusted out galvanized.
Plastic is easy peasy.
*deep, heaving sobs*
Posted by: JQ
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If it's plastic, splice it.
I thought it may be rusted out galvanized.
Plastic is easy peasy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:13 PM (KFYyV)
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120 agreed, Emmie, beef tallow soap is great stuff!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 03:08 PM (dKEEs)
I had never thought to try it before but I let a Farmers Market vendor talk me into it. I'm glad I did!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 03:08 PM (dKEEs)
I had never thought to try it before but I let a Farmers Market vendor talk me into it. I'm glad I did!
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 03:14 PM (rF2iL)
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"It's probably 100ft from meter to water entry on house."
JQ, it's a long way from the meter to our house, too, but the plumbers only had to replace about two feet of the service line. A leak in one place doesn't necessarily mean the whole line is trash.
JQ, it's a long way from the meter to our house, too, but the plumbers only had to replace about two feet of the service line. A leak in one place doesn't necessarily mean the whole line is trash.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at July 13, 2025 03:15 PM (FEVMW)
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It's made by a company called Primarily Pure.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:11 PM (lJ0H4)
I'm gonna check that out. The Farmers Market vendor was not there this weekend and so I couldn't buy another bar.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:11 PM (lJ0H4)
I'm gonna check that out. The Farmers Market vendor was not there this weekend and so I couldn't buy another bar.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 03:15 PM (rF2iL)
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My FWP today is I just got finished shopping at Kroger and I couldn't access the digital coupons on my phone. Cost me about $15 or more in savings.
Posted by: polynikes
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Arrgghhh, that fwp! My carrier has a dead spot RIGHT at the grocery store I -- used to -- shop at. I've switched to one a few blocks away where my digital coupons scan up in the app.
My FWP today is I just got finished shopping at Kroger and I couldn't access the digital coupons on my phone. Cost me about $15 or more in savings.
Posted by: polynikes
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Arrgghhh, that fwp! My carrier has a dead spot RIGHT at the grocery store I -- used to -- shop at. I've switched to one a few blocks away where my digital coupons scan up in the app.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 03:19 PM (xp7+v)
134
Those who bathe is beef tallow, will be followed home by stray dogs.
Posted by: Charlie Chan at July 13, 2025 03:19 PM (G5+As)
135
When a First World country loses their work ethic, they will eventually become a Second World country.
If CBD stays in France long enough, he will have to re-title this thread!
If CBD stays in France long enough, he will have to re-title this thread!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 03:20 PM (HlyYF)
136
FWP, the reality of being so damn old but still searching today for the fantastic musical performances from Live Aid, 1985.
Luckily, have found many - both audio (WXPN, WMMR both Philly region) and on YouTube including Queen's performance on Queen Official.
(Remastered and released for the 40th anniversary of the greatest set in rock history. Watch the full 1985 Wembley Stadium performance live for 24 hours only on July 13! #LiveAid40 #queen)
Luckily, have found many - both audio (WXPN, WMMR both Philly region) and on YouTube including Queen's performance on Queen Official.
(Remastered and released for the 40th anniversary of the greatest set in rock history. Watch the full 1985 Wembley Stadium performance live for 24 hours only on July 13! #LiveAid40 #queen)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 13, 2025 03:21 PM (NFX2v)
137
FWP Celestron having a big sale I get to payment with an 11" computer controlled equatorial mount Schmidt–Cassegrain,with a powerpack and they only do PayPal... DOH, I don't do paypal. Oh well The 8" Meade works okay...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:22 PM (pxXMV)
138
That's a fine looking chop. I feel your pain.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 03:23 PM (mCjHU)
139
le fil de la cuisine
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 03:23 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 03:24 PM (/HDaX)
141
Socialism is dragging everyone down, no 1st World allowed
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 03:25 PM (+qU29)
142
An 11" Celestron SCT? That Paypal failure has probably saved you from permanent back injury.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 03:25 PM (/HDaX)
143
It's made by a company called Primarily Pure.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:11 PM (lJ0H4)
I'm gonna check that out. The Farmers Market vendor was not there this weekend and so I couldn't buy another bar.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump!
Company is Primally Pure not Primarily Pure. Stupid auto cucumber.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:11 PM (lJ0H4)
I'm gonna check that out. The Farmers Market vendor was not there this weekend and so I couldn't buy another bar.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump!
Company is Primally Pure not Primarily Pure. Stupid auto cucumber.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:28 PM (lJ0H4)
144
Twice in two days I've gone to the store to buy something and came home with a dozen items, none of which were what I went to the store to buy.
Twice in two days I've gone to the store to buy something and came home with a dozen items, none of which were what I went to the store to buy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 03:30 PM (HZi96)
145
It seems Andy Cuomo is staying in the race. I think the Money doesn't want the Crazy to run NYC.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 03:31 PM (6cOjz)
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They're only open Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Is the store just a hobby to them?
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS!
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In fact, I just found out they're not open on Tuesdays anymore! Just Saturdays.
They deliver plain old boring bread to a mom-and-pop supermarket daily, so there's that. But I'm not a let-them-eat-bread type. I want to get in on their Saturday-only cookies and pastries.
They're only open Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Is the store just a hobby to them?
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS!
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In fact, I just found out they're not open on Tuesdays anymore! Just Saturdays.
They deliver plain old boring bread to a mom-and-pop supermarket daily, so there's that. But I'm not a let-them-eat-bread type. I want to get in on their Saturday-only cookies and pastries.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 03:32 PM (xp7+v)
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144
Twice in two days I've gone to the store to buy something and came home with a dozen items, none of which were what I went to the store to buy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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I make a list and check it twice.
and be sure not to lock your keys in the car
it's a hot wait
Twice in two days I've gone to the store to buy something and came home with a dozen items, none of which were what I went to the store to buy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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I make a list and check it twice.
and be sure not to lock your keys in the car
it's a hot wait
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:33 PM (KFYyV)
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Twice in two days I've gone to the store to buy something and came home with a dozen items, none of which were what I went to the store to buy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
That is why I like grocery delivery. Cuts down on those impulse buys.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
That is why I like grocery delivery. Cuts down on those impulse buys.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:33 PM (lJ0H4)
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EUROPE IN AUGUST ... Rumor has it many European countries do not allow air conditioning in residences -- only in businesses ... Consequently, I suspect many Europeans travel north to spend this month where temperatures are historically cooler ... Denmark in August, for example, doesn't very often flirt with 90-degree temperatures.
Posted by: Kathy at July 13, 2025 03:33 PM (qpw89)
150
It seems Andy Cuomo is staying in the race. I think the Money doesn't want the Crazy to run NYC.
Posted by: Accomack
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Then someone had better pay Adams to get out, if it's not already in the works. It's only a matter of how much, not whether.
It seems Andy Cuomo is staying in the race. I think the Money doesn't want the Crazy to run NYC.
Posted by: Accomack
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Then someone had better pay Adams to get out, if it's not already in the works. It's only a matter of how much, not whether.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 03:35 PM (xp7+v)
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72 Oh, weed whackers are so annoying with those little spools of plastic that break quickly, need to be taken apart, extended and then shorten again a few minutes later.
Can't they use a sturdier material?
I saw an ad somewhere for a product that was metal wire to replace the monofilament. They looked pretty dangerous for your ankles and fencing etc
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (MtW72)
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Supposedly, soak them in water before use. I haven't tried yet but will, if I remember to plan ahead, for next time.
https://youtu.be/wZT2maUMM3c?t=373
Can't they use a sturdier material?
I saw an ad somewhere for a product that was metal wire to replace the monofilament. They looked pretty dangerous for your ankles and fencing etc
Posted by: Francophoile at July 13, 2025 02:44 PM (MtW72)
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Supposedly, soak them in water before use. I haven't tried yet but will, if I remember to plan ahead, for next time.
https://youtu.be/wZT2maUMM3c?t=373
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 13, 2025 03:36 PM (Dv3i1)
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An 11" Celestron SCT? That Paypal failure has probably saved you from permanent back injury.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
But the views!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
But the views!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:36 PM (pxXMV)
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"We sophisticated Europeans do not use air conditioning like you stupid Americans."
*50,000 dead people later*
"We need more wind and solar to change the climate."
"We sophisticated Europeans do not use air conditioning like you stupid Americans."
*50,000 dead people later*
"We need more wind and solar to change the climate."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 03:36 PM (HZi96)
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The Farmers Market vendor was not there this weekend and so I couldn't buy another bar.
Posted by: Emmie
Remember:
Soap making is really easy chemistry!
Posted by: Emmie
Remember:
Soap making is really easy chemistry!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (pxXMV)
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The entire nation of France goes on vacation for a month in the Summer.
I thought it was August. Oh, well.
No puritan work ethic there.
I thought it was August. Oh, well.
No puritan work ethic there.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (3Rpkk)
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Company is Primally Pure not Primarily Pure. Stupid auto cucumber.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:28 PM (lJ0H4)
Fortunately, Primally Pure popped up when I searched. Thanks!
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 03:28 PM (lJ0H4)
Fortunately, Primally Pure popped up when I searched. Thanks!
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (rF2iL)
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I can tell that prices are down. Shopping that would have cots over $100, now is almost half that.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (g47mK)
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food-wise...
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (g47mK)
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145. Andy Cuomo has brother Chris on his side. CUOMO on News Nation.
His programs just the last 3 or 4 days: "Now we have extreme movements on both sides." "Chris Cuomo exposes 'game' of political extremism." "Chris Cuomo looks at issues of immigration and extremism."
They still have high aspirations.
His programs just the last 3 or 4 days: "Now we have extreme movements on both sides." "Chris Cuomo exposes 'game' of political extremism." "Chris Cuomo looks at issues of immigration and extremism."
They still have high aspirations.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 13, 2025 03:39 PM (NFX2v)
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Way to live the good life, Nurse!
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 13, 2025 03:39 PM (kOluj)
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My FWP today is my loser neighbor letting his grape vine grow into our 35 ft tall red plum tree. Eventually it will choke it out. This clueless idiot thinks he lives in Napa Valley or something growing grapes. Today I'm going out to but an electric pole saw and chop his goddamned vine to pieces. I'll have to operate from our side of the fence.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 03:40 PM (/U5Yz)
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Soap making is really easy chemistry!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (pxXMV)
Yes! Just a little protective gear for working with lye. I may try it someday if I find a good source/price for tallow.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:38 PM (pxXMV)
Yes! Just a little protective gear for working with lye. I may try it someday if I find a good source/price for tallow.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 03:40 PM (rF2iL)
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122 I read that Sydney Sweeney is slated to be one of the next "Bond girls". She'll be fantastic in that role. Perfect for her. Other than her physical attributes, she has a great sense of humor.
Posted by: runner
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Chesty Galore?
Holly Bigcans?
Vast Traxaland?
Posted by: runner
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Chesty Galore?
Holly Bigcans?
Vast Traxaland?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 13, 2025 03:40 PM (Dv3i1)
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But the views!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:36 PM (pxXMV)
Get a Dobsonian!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:36 PM (pxXMV)
Get a Dobsonian!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 03:41 PM (/HDaX)
165
Chicken prices are rising again in the region. We're being told higher production and feed costs for the farmers is one major reason.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 13, 2025 03:42 PM (NFX2v)
166
Need Horde prayers for Glenda, please. She's near the end but we cannot get seizures under control. Thanks y'all.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (CUCQk)
167
Mrs fd goes to the store to get the stuff on the list. I go to the store to get the stuff not on the list.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (vFG9F)
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good source/price for tallow.
Posted by: Emmie
Find someone who smokes Brisket and/or pulled pork! Beg for the trimmings
Posted by: Emmie
Find someone who smokes Brisket and/or pulled pork! Beg for the trimmings
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (pxXMV)
169
I was walking on the lawn in the front yard one day and it felt squishy.
I shut everything off and could see the meter still passing water through.
It turns out that when the sprinkler system was put in years ago, the "fine gentlemen" cut the main (PVC) and used a crappy union coupler. I dug it up and replaced it with a slip union. Cost me $30 and I have the neat narrow shovel now.
It was August. Why do these things happen in August?
I shut everything off and could see the meter still passing water through.
It turns out that when the sprinkler system was put in years ago, the "fine gentlemen" cut the main (PVC) and used a crappy union coupler. I dug it up and replaced it with a slip union. Cost me $30 and I have the neat narrow shovel now.
It was August. Why do these things happen in August?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 03:44 PM (3Rpkk)
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An interesting short story about John Walton, son of Walmart founder Sam Walton
https://tinyurl.com/2xrmt6cn
https://tinyurl.com/2xrmt6cn
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 03:46 PM (/U5Yz)
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Get a Dobsonian!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
Had an Orion 10" dob, gave it to my son. I desire an equatorial mounted scope!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
Had an Orion 10" dob, gave it to my son. I desire an equatorial mounted scope!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:46 PM (pxXMV)
172
Need Horde prayers for Glenda, please. She's near the end but we cannot get seizures under control. Thanks y'all.
Posted by: screaming in digital
Added to prayers.
Posted by: screaming in digital
Added to prayers.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 13, 2025 03:47 PM (pxXMV)
173
Nice is nice. Topless women at the beach.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 03:48 PM (3Rpkk)
174
Am I the only one that didn't know that James Clavell , author of Shogun and King Rat, was also a movie director and was the director for
To Sir, With Love?
To Sir, With Love?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 03:48 PM (VofaG)
175
Prayers up, SiD. 🙏
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 03:49 PM (mCjHU)
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166 Need Horde prayers for Glenda, please. She's near the end but we cannot get seizures under control. Thanks y'all.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (CUCQk)
Will do. May our loving Father hold her close.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (CUCQk)
Will do. May our loving Father hold her close.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 13, 2025 03:49 PM (rF2iL)
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I was walking on the lawn in the front yard one day and it felt squishy.
I shut everything off and could see the meter still passing water through.
It turns out that when the sprinkler system was put in years ago, the "fine gentlemen" cut the main (PVC) and used a crappy union coupler. I dug it up and replaced it with a slip union. Cost me $30 and I have the neat narrow shovel now.
It was August. Why do these things happen in August?
Posted by: no one of any consequence
Every season I have at least one popup head that takes off like a Falcon rocket and provides us with a 30ft geyser show. I've been replacing them with Rainbird commercial heads that are only a few bucks more but are 10 times better built. Residential irrigation equipment is crap.
I shut everything off and could see the meter still passing water through.
It turns out that when the sprinkler system was put in years ago, the "fine gentlemen" cut the main (PVC) and used a crappy union coupler. I dug it up and replaced it with a slip union. Cost me $30 and I have the neat narrow shovel now.
It was August. Why do these things happen in August?
Posted by: no one of any consequence
Every season I have at least one popup head that takes off like a Falcon rocket and provides us with a 30ft geyser show. I've been replacing them with Rainbird commercial heads that are only a few bucks more but are 10 times better built. Residential irrigation equipment is crap.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 03:50 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2025 03:50 PM (ULPxl)
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166 Need Horde prayers for Glenda, please.
Prayers for God's presence to soothe her heart, mind and body.
Prayers for God's presence to soothe her heart, mind and body.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 13, 2025 03:52 PM (NFX2v)
180
Adams' payoff is not to get prosecuted by Tische James
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 03:53 PM (Y6Ecf)
181
I've watched brisket videos where the final stage of the cook is to add big gobs of beef tallow as the meat is wrapped in butcher paper.
Posted by: mrp at July 13, 2025 03:55 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 03:55 PM (VofaG)
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I've been replacing them with Rainbird commercial heads that are only a few bucks more but are 10 times better built.
For the past several years I’ve been using an expensive water timer that has worked great for two years and then would crack when I put it in for the third year.
This year I replaced it with a Rainbird. Don’t know yet if it’s going to last beyond two years, but (a) it feels a lot hardier, and (b) it was a lot cheaper.
No controlling it remotely, but I came back Friday after being gone three weeks to find a bumper crop of hot red peppers. Going to make a very hot relish in a few days.
For the past several years I’ve been using an expensive water timer that has worked great for two years and then would crack when I put it in for the third year.
This year I replaced it with a Rainbird. Don’t know yet if it’s going to last beyond two years, but (a) it feels a lot hardier, and (b) it was a lot cheaper.
No controlling it remotely, but I came back Friday after being gone three weeks to find a bumper crop of hot red peppers. Going to make a very hot relish in a few days.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 13, 2025 03:57 PM (EXyHK)
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Yes sir, when Plumber was putting in new sewer line he whacked the irrigation pipe. Pipe? It wasn't even schedule 40.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:58 PM (KFYyV)
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166 Need Horde prayers for Glenda, please. She's near the end but we cannot get seizures under control. Thanks y'all.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (CUCQk)
There's a lot of prayers being sent even if people aren't posting.
Many of us have been there....sadly.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 13, 2025 03:43 PM (CUCQk)
There's a lot of prayers being sent even if people aren't posting.
Many of us have been there....sadly.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 13, 2025 03:58 PM (jvJvP)
186
Schedule 26?
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 03:59 PM (+qU29)
187
I've watched brisket videos where the final stage of the cook is to add big gobs of beef tallow as the meat is wrapped in butcher paper.
Posted by: mrp
Yeah, I've never understood that. Why let go of it in the first place?
Trim the brisket, you gots extra fat. Overcook it or cook too fast, you lose fat, then add it back?
I save our tallow for other things.
Posted by: mrp
Yeah, I've never understood that. Why let go of it in the first place?
Trim the brisket, you gots extra fat. Overcook it or cook too fast, you lose fat, then add it back?
I save our tallow for other things.
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 03:59 PM (cPGH3)
188
Polyethylene
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 03:59 PM (jc0TO)
189
Tallow is for French Fries.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 04:00 PM (jc0TO)
190
Does anyone need a slow, diminutive, light hitting, injury prone, expensive Japanese DH? Because the Red Sox have one if you want
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 04:00 PM (Y6Ecf)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2025 04:01 PM (ULPxl)
192
Get upstairs
FOOD NOOD
FOOD NOOD
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:02 PM (+qU29)
193
I think cpvc pipe is a disaster waiting to happen.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 04:03 PM (Y6Ecf)
194
Adams' payoff is not to get prosecuted by Tische James
Posted by: Accomack
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Well, that's already happened. Something more along the lines of kickbacks or a no-work, high-pay sinecure in the city bureaucracy should Cuomo win.
Adams' payoff is not to get prosecuted by Tische James
Posted by: Accomack
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Well, that's already happened. Something more along the lines of kickbacks or a no-work, high-pay sinecure in the city bureaucracy should Cuomo win.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 04:03 PM (xp7+v)
195
France could eliminate half of their third world problems if they had a declared Pork Month and only served pork.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2025 04:13 PM (/gTjv)
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>>>For the past several years I’ve been using an expensive water timer that has worked great for two years and then would crack when I put it in for the third year.
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If your concern it the garden or flower bed it's ATC bluestrip for the win. Attach the timer to the faucet run the line and little tubes to each plant with emitters emitting the specific amount of water you choose.
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If your concern it the garden or flower bed it's ATC bluestrip for the win. Attach the timer to the faucet run the line and little tubes to each plant with emitters emitting the specific amount of water you choose.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 04:13 PM (KFYyV)
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cpvc schedule 40 is for hot water
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 04:16 PM (KFYyV)
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The Muslims of France do not take a summer vacation. They continue their year-round vacation.
The Muslims of France do not take a summer vacation. They continue their year-round vacation.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 13, 2025 04:50 PM (XeO61)
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This is gonna sound craycray, but I made a couple of dowsing rods and walked the green patch in my yard.
They crossed in 'likely' places, without my deliberate intervention. They crossed as I walked over *known* irrigation pipes, as a test.
It's nice to narrow-down to a foot wide, from 10ft wide area!!
I may start digging in the morning. I know the pipe can't be very deep there. And if I don't find it? Will call around for a pro to take over.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Or saved.
They crossed in 'likely' places, without my deliberate intervention. They crossed as I walked over *known* irrigation pipes, as a test.
It's nice to narrow-down to a foot wide, from 10ft wide area!!
I may start digging in the morning. I know the pipe can't be very deep there. And if I don't find it? Will call around for a pro to take over.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Or saved.
Posted by: JQ at July 13, 2025 07:01 PM (rdVOm)
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Madrid used to shut down in august. Not sure if they still do.
Posted by: KM at July 13, 2025 09:30 PM (B0b7c)
If Wishes Were Horses, Beggers Would Ride
Flipping a blue state sounds eminently doable in our brave new world of President Trump. He has knocked the Democrat party flat on its corrupt ass with a flurry of executive orders, bills, and foreign policy changes that are designed to remake our economy, culture, and relationship with the rest of the world. The Democrats are scrambling everywhere, and it is a gratifying thing to see!
But the GOPe, or failed Republican Party, or whatever you want to call them is still a powerful force in many states, and their sclerotic vision for America has created significant issues for the Trump Doctrine. And no more so than in NJ, which has a pathetic, useless, feckless, corrupt state Republican apparatus. The proof is their perennial candidate for governor, Jack Ciattarelli. He ran in 2017 and 2021, and obviously lost both times, the second time in the general election to a pathetic, chinless scumbag Goldman Sachs apparatchik who is the quintessential machine Democrat. But hope springs eternal in the Garden State! I guess the third time will be the charm. New Jersey's Blue Wall Is Crumbling, and Democrats Know ItNew Jersey, a state that reliably votes blue in national elections, has long been considered a Democratic stronghold. But the political winds have shifted. The party that once took victory for granted now finds itself in a full-blown panic, pouring cash into a race that should have been an afterthought. The reason? Voters are restless, and the Democratic brand is tarnished. This isn't just about one election. It's about the growing sense that Democrats are losing their grip on New Jersey. Donald Trump's support in New Jersey has grown with each election, hitting a record 1.9 million votes in 2024.Sounds great! Except Ciattarelli is a machine politician without a coherent political philosophy other than he wants to be governor. He was an anti-Trumper until he saw which way the wind was blowing, but even then he tried to titrate his responses to keep the image of a maverick. Like when he denied knowing that a "Stop The Steal" rally he headlined was...you know...a "Stop The Steal" rally! He offers nothing other than the GOPe pablum with a dash of faux-Trump muscularity to keep the base interested. He also has presented nothing substantive to combat the obvious crookedness of NJ elections. And if you dip into his policy statements, you will discover a central planner in disguise. Can he win? Sure. Will he win? I doubt it. He is a boring politician without a clear message for New Jersey: otherwise known as a typical Republican. He is running against another boring politician, Mikie Sherrill, but she has the massive backing of the Democrat machine that will manufacture votes in whatever way it can to ensure her victory. Until the Corporate Republican Party recognizes that it is not business as usual, it will continue to lose these sorts of races, because its lack of vision into the sea change that is possible in the United States prevents them from supporting the types of candidates that will be successful in Trump-curious areas.
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Good afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:00 PM (+qU29)
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If Elons plan was just to find better candidates it would benefit conservatives
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:03 PM (+qU29)
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You can lead a commenter to a thread but you can't make them comment
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (+qU29)
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It's seniority. For decades, both major parties ran that way at the state/local levels. Dems largely ditched that over the past 30 years, but GOP state operations are still stuck in 1955...
Posted by: man at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (tubbA)
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There may be some closer-to-the-grassroots changes going on in Joisey. I just watched a short video from Washington Gun Law where he talks about a town that voted to effectively reduce the cost of a concealed carry permit by refunding the part of the fee that goes to the town to the applicant. It's only two towns so far but it's something I would never have expected from NJ.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (/y8xj)
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If whores were smores they would get roasted over a fire. New Jersey! Like Old Jersey. This is an opinion. And words and words and words and words and words and words and words and words and words. Scoffing. Sneering. Black pill, get your black pill here. I have complaints. I am dissatisfied. My mouth is open wide. To emit some more words! This is not AI- generated. These are real words.
Posted by: Cellphoning It In at July 13, 2025 12:10 PM (GwRY3)
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If we win, we have to lead! That's not who we are!!
Posted by: GOPe at July 13, 2025 12:10 PM (/6GbT)
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There may be some closer-to-the-grassroots changes going on in Joisey. I just watched a short video from Washington Gun Law where he talks about a town that voted to effectively reduce the cost of a concealed carry permit by refunding the part of the fee that goes to the town to the applicant. It's only two towns so far but it's something I would never have expected from NJ.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (/y8xj)
It's pronounced, "Jersey". Brooklyn people say "Joisey". Even people I know from Hoboken and JERSEY City don't say Joisey. Sheesh. I'm sure Fen will agree.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (/y8xj)
It's pronounced, "Jersey". Brooklyn people say "Joisey". Even people I know from Hoboken and JERSEY City don't say Joisey. Sheesh.
I'm sure Fen will agree. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (5xuJ/)
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We bailed on NJ, and the Metro NY area in general, in 1988. Moved to coastal NC, and have never looked back. When Captain Schettino is at the helm, abandon ship!
Posted by: This Ship Be Sinkin'! at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (G5+As)
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Christine Todd Whitman and Chris Christie are the prototypical GOPe republicans that seem to come out of NJ
As with all blue states I wonder about the extent of ballot cheating there….
Virginia seems like a more likely blue pickup; already has a republican guv
As with all blue states I wonder about the extent of ballot cheating there….
Virginia seems like a more likely blue pickup; already has a republican guv
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (lepZb)
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The GOP's priorities do not align with the priorities of the typical, GOP voter. They'll tell you they do.
But they lie.
But they lie.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)
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4 It's seniority. For decades, both major parties ran that way at the state/local levels. Dems largely ditched that over the past 30 years, but GOP state operations are still stuck in 1955...
Posted by: man at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (tubbA)
It would be nice if the GOP would field local candidates, instead of ceding the cities to the Left...
Posted by: man at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (tubbA)
It would be nice if the GOP would field local candidates, instead of ceding the cities to the Left...
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (vm8sq)
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Scott Pressler is all-in on that race. Generally I give that kid the benefit of the doubt and we have to try to win EVERY battleground. Imagine if we DO make NJ purple just because of the efforts put into this ONE race. The winner of 2028 ultimately has power over the Census. We can flip NJ red for at least that, and if the governor election is only the halfway point of getting enough voters to register GOP and seat still stays Dem, it'll still be a worth-it checkpoint on the way to flipping NJ red nationally in time for 2028. Doable, regardless of NJ Governor outcome but only if we put in the necessary work.
Posted by: geewhiz at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (wn50e)
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Please clap?
Posted by: Jeb! at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (PiwSw)
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Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (/y8xj)
There are many parts of NJ that are conservative.
Sadly, the state is dominated by the cities, and the squishy suburbs of NYC and Philly.
There are many parts of NJ that are conservative.
Sadly, the state is dominated by the cities, and the squishy suburbs of NYC and Philly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (VTAje)
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Now that I have a decent State Senator, I need a decent State Rep. My State Rep is absolutely worthless.
And I am in TX.
And I am in TX.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (vm8sq)
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Good morning! I would love to see a red state turn blue and agree, Skip, Elon is a powerful force- he needs to channel it in the (arguably frustrating) channels we have. Other ways lead us to Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 12:13 PM (pZEOD)
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13 Scott Pressler is all-in on that race. Generally I give that kid the benefit of the doubt and we have to try to win EVERY battleground. Imagine if we DO make NJ purple just because of the efforts put into this ONE race. The winner of 2028 ultimately has power over the Census. We can flip NJ red for at least that, and if the governor election is only the halfway point of getting enough voters to register GOP and seat still stays Dem, it'll still be a worth-it checkpoint on the way to flipping NJ red nationally in time for 2028. Doable, regardless of NJ Governor outcome but only if we put in the necessary work.
Posted by: geewhiz at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (wn50e)
At this point I'd be happy to see the NJSSR split its electoral votes (which it can do IIRC).
Posted by: geewhiz at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (wn50e)
At this point I'd be happy to see the NJSSR split its electoral votes (which it can do IIRC).
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:14 PM (vm8sq)
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"Until the Corporate Republican Party recognizes that it is not business as usual"
This is how I see them. Corporate. They love big business and corporate money. Small business and little mom and pop shops and middle class Americans? Nope. They want the big corporations with the big corporate money.
They're just store bought whores with law degrees and swanky cocktail parties.
$2Million same as in town.
This is how I see them. Corporate. They love big business and corporate money. Small business and little mom and pop shops and middle class Americans? Nope. They want the big corporations with the big corporate money.
They're just store bought whores with law degrees and swanky cocktail parties.
$2Million same as in town.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2J/Lj)
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Trump can't run any more. Who else do they have, after? It's establishment Republicans all the way down.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 12:14 PM (mrACD)
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this is what pissed me off most about Musk and his new party.
If he dedicated spending his money and effort on purging every RINO we can, that would have made the difference he supposedly seeks.
Oh well.
this is what pissed me off most about Musk and his new party.
If he dedicated spending his money and effort on purging every RINO we can, that would have made the difference he supposedly seeks.
Oh well.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2025 12:16 PM (x0n13)
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What's a Begger?
Posted by: Chinglish? at July 13, 2025 12:17 PM (G5+As)
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There are many parts of NJ that are conservative.
Sadly, the state is dominated by the cities, and the squishy suburbs of NYC and Philly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (VTAje)
Sadly, CBD, that is true and has been for decades. And, the union membership in our state is very heavily influenced by the Democrat party. Between the state and teachers unions, they, in most cases, have the elections sewn up tight.
Sadly, the state is dominated by the cities, and the squishy suburbs of NYC and Philly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (VTAje)
Sadly, CBD, that is true and has been for decades. And, the union membership in our state is very heavily influenced by the Democrat party. Between the state and teachers unions, they, in most cases, have the elections sewn up tight.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:18 PM (5xuJ/)
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$20 Same as in town.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 12:18 PM (mrACD)
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Trump can't run any more. Who else do they have, after? It's establishment Republicans all the way down.
On a 1 (Trump) to 10 (Jeb), I would put DeSantis and Vance at 5, Paxton at 3, and Rubio at... I have no idea where.
On a 1 (Trump) to 10 (Jeb), I would put DeSantis and Vance at 5, Paxton at 3, and Rubio at... I have no idea where.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:19 PM (/y8xj)
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FWP > NJ
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 12:19 PM (3447G)
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Paxton who?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (mrACD)
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VA and NJ can be flipped. 2021 showed this. VA was flipped and NJ was flipped as well but fraud gave it to the Dem.
However that was after Biden “won” in 2020. Those two states will go the opposite way of the previous election. A Republican won a landslide in 2009 in Virginia as a rebuke to Obama’s win in 2008. Chris Christie won as well during Obama’s time.
But Republicans winning the year after Trump won? Not gonna happen.
However that was after Biden “won” in 2020. Those two states will go the opposite way of the previous election. A Republican won a landslide in 2009 in Virginia as a rebuke to Obama’s win in 2008. Chris Christie won as well during Obama’s time.
But Republicans winning the year after Trump won? Not gonna happen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (ImXfC)
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Hey. I'm doing my best in my inexorable journey to become New Jersey.
Posted by: Virginia at July 13, 2025 12:21 PM (XQo4F)
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This is how I see them. Corporate. They love big business and corporate money. Small business and little mom and pop shops and middle class Americans? Nope. They want the big corporations with the big corporate money.
They're just store bought whores with law degrees and swanky cocktail parties.
$2Million same as in town.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2J/Lj)
We need a law that says if your business expands to any point beyond 10 employees on any additional locations, you (the owner) will be subject to a thorough beating by police. If you attempt to expand beyond your town, the police execute you summarily.
They're just store bought whores with law degrees and swanky cocktail parties.
$2Million same as in town.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2J/Lj)
We need a law that says if your business expands to any point beyond 10 employees on any additional locations, you (the owner) will be subject to a thorough beating by police. If you attempt to expand beyond your town, the police execute you summarily.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:21 PM (vm8sq)
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I suspect if you removed the false votes NJ has been slightly red since 2016 or so
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 12:22 PM (t0Rmr)
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NJ just might be too close to the NY rot
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:22 PM (+qU29)
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27 Paxton who?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (mrACD)
Bill.
We're tying his corpse to a stick and running him.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (mrACD)
Bill.
We're tying his corpse to a stick and running him.
Posted by: The GOP's Deep Bench at July 13, 2025 12:23 PM (LWcg2)
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So AoC is calling Trump out on the Epstein files.
Is this 5th dimensional chess to get the Dems to argue for him to release them before he drops the hammer on Clinton and Hollywood?
Or...did he and Bondi really just make a big mistake?
Is this 5th dimensional chess to get the Dems to argue for him to release them before he drops the hammer on Clinton and Hollywood?
Or...did he and Bondi really just make a big mistake?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 12:23 PM (t0Rmr)
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Begger Vance.
Posted by: He was a golfer. at July 13, 2025 12:23 PM (XQo4F)
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Good morning! I would love to see a red state turn blue and agree, Skip, Elon is a powerful force- he needs to channel it in the (arguably frustrating) channels we have. Other ways lead us to Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 12:13 PM (pZEOD)
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I would love for a blue state to flip Red.
I'm hoping Elon will come to his senses and realize that he will only be helping the Democrats by forming a new party.
Posted by: Piper at July 13, 2025 12:13 PM (pZEOD)
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I would love for a blue state to flip Red.
I'm hoping Elon will come to his senses and realize that he will only be helping the Democrats by forming a new party.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 13, 2025 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
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Good chunks of northern NJ, are Muslim now, along with a ton of illegals. This isn’t Jersey Shore or Sopranos New Jersey anymore.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (ImXfC)
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But Republicans winning the year after Trump won? Not gonna happen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (ImXfC)
This due to Republican and conservative voters being fat, dumb and happy. They need not participate in elections (self-government is TOO HARD) because, well, we have our King.
(Such is the thinking, anyway. I'd like for voters to be every bit as hungry next year, but history suggests otherwise.)
But Republicans winning the year after Trump won? Not gonna happen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (ImXfC)
This due to Republican and conservative voters being fat, dumb and happy. They need not participate in elections (self-government is TOO HARD) because, well, we have our King.
(Such is the thinking, anyway. I'd like for voters to be every bit as hungry next year, but history suggests otherwise.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
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If he dedicated spending his money and effort on purging every RINO we can, that would have made the difference he supposedly seeks.
I think that was Plan A but he wasn't ready for the resistance he received. As mentioned before, he's an autist and he can't cope with unmet expectations very well.
All that said, I have no problems with his 3rd party. Competition is good. It sharpens distinctions and forces change in order to keep market share. Unlike many here, I don't blame Perot for Bush's loss, I blame Bush. He had four years to convince us to keep him and he couldn't do it. That's not on Perot.
I think that was Plan A but he wasn't ready for the resistance he received. As mentioned before, he's an autist and he can't cope with unmet expectations very well.
All that said, I have no problems with his 3rd party. Competition is good. It sharpens distinctions and forces change in order to keep market share. Unlike many here, I don't blame Perot for Bush's loss, I blame Bush. He had four years to convince us to keep him and he couldn't do it. That's not on Perot.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (/y8xj)
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And thank you for using that old saying as a title! I rarely hear that used anymore. I use it, along with..
If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers!
Most people have no idea what a tinker actually is.
Yesterday the boy, his lady, and our delightful grandson visited. Someone said something that brought to mind the lyrics of that old Sinatra song "The Lady is A Tramp". I made a comment using the lyric and everyone, including Hubbymayhem, just stared at me. No knew that song! I was disappoint.
If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers!
Most people have no idea what a tinker actually is.
Yesterday the boy, his lady, and our delightful grandson visited. Someone said something that brought to mind the lyrics of that old Sinatra song "The Lady is A Tramp". I made a comment using the lyric and everyone, including Hubbymayhem, just stared at me. No knew that song! I was disappoint.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:25 PM (2J/Lj)
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A third party? I'm all ears!
Posted by: Ross Perot at July 13, 2025 12:25 PM (XQo4F)
Posted by: Georgia at July 13, 2025 12:26 PM (vFG9F)
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>>> 39
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I don't blame Perot for Bush's loss, I blame Bush. He had four years to convince us to keep him and he couldn't do it. That's not on Perot.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (/y8xj)
"read my lips"
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I don't blame Perot for Bush's loss, I blame Bush. He had four years to convince us to keep him and he couldn't do it. That's not on Perot.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (/y8xj)
"read my lips"
Posted by: GHW Bush at July 13, 2025 12:27 PM (ULPxl)
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I think Musk greatly misunderstood how American politics work/don't work. Either or. His engineering background looks at problems as solvable, in some manner, shape or form.
Politics ain't like that. Thus, great frustration over it.
His energies would be much better spent on primarying RINO's and election/voting reforms. Neither are as "sexy" as a new political party tho'.
Politics ain't like that. Thus, great frustration over it.
His energies would be much better spent on primarying RINO's and election/voting reforms. Neither are as "sexy" as a new political party tho'.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 12:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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NJ just might be too close to the NY rot
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:22 PM (+qU29)
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Yep.
Besides that the state went for Kamala not Trump, so I don't think they will change course.
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:22 PM (+qU29)
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Yep.
Besides that the state went for Kamala not Trump, so I don't think they will change course.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 13, 2025 12:27 PM (NpAcC)
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NJ just might be too close to the NY rot
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:22 PM (+qU29)
Many from NYC and Long Island have relocated here. With their voting habits intact. That's been going on since the mid 60's, accelerated through the 70's. Now, they are entering bidding wars when they look for a house. Tons of apartments are being built in every town that has a railroad station, especially Woodbridge, New Brunswick, Edison, Bound Brook, Somerville, and towns along the shore RR line. They live here, but it's very easy to commute to their jobs in the city.
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:22 PM (+qU29)
Many from NYC and Long Island have relocated here. With their voting habits intact. That's been going on since the mid 60's, accelerated through the 70's. Now, they are entering bidding wars when they look for a house. Tons of apartments are being built in every town that has a railroad station, especially Woodbridge, New Brunswick, Edison, Bound Brook, Somerville, and towns along the shore RR line. They live here, but it's very easy to commute to their jobs in the city.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:30 PM (5xuJ/)
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Strawberry fields forever!
Posted by: Newscum at July 13, 2025 12:33 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: DaveA at July 13, 2025 12:34 PM (FhXTo)
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Good chunks of northern NJ, are Muslim now, along with a ton of illegals. This isn’t Jersey Shore or Sopranos New Jersey anymore.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (ImXfC)
That's an exaggeration, and the real problem is home grown.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (ImXfC)
That's an exaggeration, and the real problem is home grown.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 12:34 PM (VTAje)
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The cat is pouting. I didn't give her a potato chip.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:36 PM (2J/Lj)
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Pouting Cat would be a good Indian name.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 12:38 PM (XZ5S6)
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>>> 51 Pouting Cat would be a good Indian name.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 12:38 PM (XZ5S6)
Poutine Cat is her Canadian cousin.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 12:38 PM (XZ5S6)
Poutine Cat is her Canadian cousin.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2025 12:39 PM (ULPxl)
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I don't blame Perot for Bush's loss, I blame Bush. He had four years to convince us to keep him and he couldn't do it. That's not on Perot.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (/y8xj)
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GHWB was a lightweight. One of those people who bops from position to position without doing much in any of them. He trotted onto the field for Dear Old Yale and Bulldog, Bulldog except he was going up against Ohio State.
I don't blame Perot for Bush's loss, I blame Bush. He had four years to convince us to keep him and he couldn't do it. That's not on Perot.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (/y8xj)
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GHWB was a lightweight. One of those people who bops from position to position without doing much in any of them. He trotted onto the field for Dear Old Yale and Bulldog, Bulldog except he was going up against Ohio State.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 12:39 PM (HZi96)
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I live in Virginia. Another state where the GOP can still be competitive, but also where the party is a bunch of worthless hacks who stumble into success, not of their own making.
Glen Youngkin has been a good governor, but if Terry McAuliffe hadn't stepped on his dick in 2021, he'd be governor and not Youngkin. I imagine the CIA chick will be the next governor, and I might be moving.
Glen Youngkin has been a good governor, but if Terry McAuliffe hadn't stepped on his dick in 2021, he'd be governor and not Youngkin. I imagine the CIA chick will be the next governor, and I might be moving.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 13, 2025 12:40 PM (MZ+PY)
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Like when he denied knowing that a "Stop The Steal" rally he headlined was...you know...a "Stop The Steal" rally!
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I don't know anything about New Jersey, or about Ciabatta or whatever his name is. But I can easily see how a regular politician could go to a Stop The Steal rally and regret it later. Stop The Steal was successfully re-branded as a bunch of loonies, and some of the top people who pulled it off were Republicans.
"I thawt the election was crooked, but gimme a break, dey wuh torkin' about Chinese thoimostats in deah!"
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I don't know anything about New Jersey, or about Ciabatta or whatever his name is. But I can easily see how a regular politician could go to a Stop The Steal rally and regret it later. Stop The Steal was successfully re-branded as a bunch of loonies, and some of the top people who pulled it off were Republicans.
"I thawt the election was crooked, but gimme a break, dey wuh torkin' about Chinese thoimostats in deah!"
Posted by: Bombadil at July 13, 2025 12:44 PM (MX0bI)
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Hubbymayhem and I are building a small purse for me. I basically designed the thing and Hubbymayhem cut the very thin lightweight boards and drilled holes for the thread to go thru. Then we use fabric "sewn" between the two boards. Board front and back, fabric sides and bottom. The fabric I chose is thick and tough and printed to look like leather but with a "finished " back so I don't need a lining fabric.
This fabric is made entirely out of hatred. It should have been simple! We've done this before! He handles the wood working and I do the sewing. But this fabric is actually made out of hatred and I can't get a needle thru it without using pliers! I tried and managed to stab myself in the boob with a very large needle. It drew blood! Now Hubbymayhem has banned me from working on this and is man handling that needle himself to protect the boobs.
Some men will go to extremes for their lady and her boobs!
This fabric is made entirely out of hatred. It should have been simple! We've done this before! He handles the wood working and I do the sewing. But this fabric is actually made out of hatred and I can't get a needle thru it without using pliers! I tried and managed to stab myself in the boob with a very large needle. It drew blood! Now Hubbymayhem has banned me from working on this and is man handling that needle himself to protect the boobs.
Some men will go to extremes for their lady and her boobs!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:47 PM (2J/Lj)
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Jack Ciattarelli — A thin Chris Christie.
Posted by: Ralph at July 13, 2025 12:48 PM (8WZD4)
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>>> Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 12:47 PM (2J/Lj)
*starts stopwatch, waiting for "pics" requests"
*starts stopwatch, waiting for "pics" requests"
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ULPxl)
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This due to Republican and conservative voters being fat, dumb and happy. They need not participate in elections (self-government is TOO HARD) because, well, we have our King.
(Such is the thinking, anyway. I'd like for voters to be every bit as hungry next year, but history suggests otherwise.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
Local elections are in odd years where I live. Our county votes 65-70% Republican for president, senate, congress? Governor.
Then every local position goes to a leftists the next year. Because nobody pays attention to anything other than “the big stuff”. Even though your local school board and city council has more impact on your day to day life than who your senator is.
(Such is the thinking, anyway. I'd like for voters to be every bit as hungry next year, but history suggests otherwise.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
Local elections are in odd years where I live. Our county votes 65-70% Republican for president, senate, congress? Governor.
Then every local position goes to a leftists the next year. Because nobody pays attention to anything other than “the big stuff”. Even though your local school board and city council has more impact on your day to day life than who your senator is.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ImXfC)
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this is what pissed me off most about Musk and his new party.
If he dedicated spending his money and effort on purging every RINO we can, that would have made the difference he supposedly seeks.
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Why would he though?
He doesn't want candidates that are more conservative, he wants those with more 'common sense,' which is to say, agree with him.
If he dedicated spending his money and effort on purging every RINO we can, that would have made the difference he supposedly seeks.
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Why would he though?
He doesn't want candidates that are more conservative, he wants those with more 'common sense,' which is to say, agree with him.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:51 PM (zLwRl)
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The free South has been flooded with Jersey refugees. They're being replaced by Muslims.
Muslims are like gheys; they only vote for each other.
Muslims are like gheys; they only vote for each other.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 13, 2025 12:51 PM (wBaIH)
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This due to Republican and conservative voters being fat, dumb and happy. They need not participate in elections (self-government is TOO HARD) because, well, we have our King.
(Such is the thinking, anyway. I'd like for voters to be every bit as hungry next year, but history suggests otherwise.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
Local elections are in odd years where I live. Our county votes 65-70% Republican for president, senate, congress? Governor.
Then every local position goes to a leftists the next year. Because nobody pays attention to anything other than “the big stuff”. Even though your local school board and city council has more impact on your day to day life than who your senator is.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ImXfC)
Don't forget state and local judges, either!
(Such is the thinking, anyway. I'd like for voters to be every bit as hungry next year, but history suggests otherwise.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
Local elections are in odd years where I live. Our county votes 65-70% Republican for president, senate, congress? Governor.
Then every local position goes to a leftists the next year. Because nobody pays attention to anything other than “the big stuff”. Even though your local school board and city council has more impact on your day to day life than who your senator is.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ImXfC)
Don't forget state and local judges, either!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 12:52 PM (S/Y4j)
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Elon Musk may be a genius engineer and businessman but he’s an absolute retard in the realm of politics. His new party will do nothing but make things worse; and that’s if he actually succeeds in getting a little something off the ground (which will only siphon votes from republicans)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 13, 2025 12:52 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:53 PM (ImXfC)
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64. Him and Gates both
Posted by: night lifted at July 13, 2025 12:56 PM (/YboP)
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65 64. Him and Gates both
Posted by: night lifted at July 13, 2025 12:56 PM (/YboP)
If Microsoft wants more H1B workers, then move the jobs to India and stop the pretense. Just admit you won't consider having Americans to work for you, by moving the jobs outright. Better yet, just move the whole verdamnt company there, and see how much India sticks up for you. Their CEO, Satya Nadella, will be home.
Posted by: night lifted at July 13, 2025 12:56 PM (/YboP)
If Microsoft wants more H1B workers, then move the jobs to India and stop the pretense. Just admit you won't consider having Americans to work for you, by moving the jobs outright. Better yet, just move the whole verdamnt company there, and see how much India sticks up for you. Their CEO, Satya Nadella, will be home.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 12:58 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:02 PM (ptgc5)
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Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 13, 2025 12:52 PM (ANuwa)
Not retarded, just ignorant.
Dumb/retarded = unintelligent, unable to learn due to lack of intelligence.
Stupid = having no common sense. Could be very intelligent but no common sense makes stupid.
Ignorant = uneducated/uninformed on a topic. Someone with no real experience with something is ignorant on that thing.
Musk is intelligent and seems to have plenty of common sense. But he was woefully uninformed and inexperienced with American politics. Like Trump, he thought the Republicans and even some demoncrats love the country and want to do what is obviously in the best interest of the country and the people. He was wrong. Trump learned that hard lesson and came back with a plan to burn everyone to the ground if they, once again, didn't follow the will of the people.
Musk is going to figure this out. My guess is he will go back to playing with his rockets and leave politics to the insane.
Not retarded, just ignorant.
Dumb/retarded = unintelligent, unable to learn due to lack of intelligence.
Stupid = having no common sense. Could be very intelligent but no common sense makes stupid.
Ignorant = uneducated/uninformed on a topic. Someone with no real experience with something is ignorant on that thing.
Musk is intelligent and seems to have plenty of common sense. But he was woefully uninformed and inexperienced with American politics. Like Trump, he thought the Republicans and even some demoncrats love the country and want to do what is obviously in the best interest of the country and the people. He was wrong. Trump learned that hard lesson and came back with a plan to burn everyone to the ground if they, once again, didn't follow the will of the people.
Musk is going to figure this out. My guess is he will go back to playing with his rockets and leave politics to the insane.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 13, 2025 01:03 PM (2J/Lj)
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Microsoft has been moving a lot of jobs to India. There are around 10k direct employees in the country. In the latest round of mass layoffs it was almost all US jobs. India was pretty much untouched. Along with Eastern Europe which is kinda the new India as far as tech outsourcing goes.
The majority of employees is still US based but the ratio of US: Non-Us is shrinking every year.
The majority of employees is still US based but the ratio of US: Non-Us is shrinking every year.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:03 PM (ImXfC)
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I live in Virginia. Another state where the GOP can still be competitive, but also where the party is a bunch of worthless hacks who stumble into success, not of their own making.
The right has no process to produce rightwing politicians.
Our limited NGO/pundit positions are almost completely held by controlled opposition GOPers.
Want consistent conservative politicians? Then we need to build a structure to do so just like the left has built. And that ruthlessly purges non-conservatives
The right has no process to produce rightwing politicians.
Our limited NGO/pundit positions are almost completely held by controlled opposition GOPers.
Want consistent conservative politicians? Then we need to build a structure to do so just like the left has built. And that ruthlessly purges non-conservatives
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:04 PM (t0Rmr)
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Where have you gone, Vivek Slamalamadingdong?
The Indian nation's H1B parasites turn their lonely eyes to you...
The Indian nation's H1B parasites turn their lonely eyes to you...
Posted by: David Patel, Motel Owner at July 13, 2025 01:05 PM (R/m4+)
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MSFT pays about 1/3 for people in India as in the US.
It is good for stockholders I suppose, but not for Americans.
The biggest stockholders are: Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Street.
So...three groups that don't care about what is good for Americans...
It is good for stockholders I suppose, but not for Americans.
The biggest stockholders are: Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Street.
So...three groups that don't care about what is good for Americans...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:03 PM (ImXfC)
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If we have to have cheap Indian labor, I'd rather it be Indians in India than H1-B tribalists running the tech companies. I acknowledge the overgeneralization.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:03 PM (ImXfC)
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If we have to have cheap Indian labor, I'd rather it be Indians in India than H1-B tribalists running the tech companies. I acknowledge the overgeneralization.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:07 PM (xp7+v)
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The right has no process to produce rightwing politicians.
Our limited NGO/pundit positions are almost completely held by controlled opposition GOPers.
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Not just no process for politicians, but no process for building a movement. The left has billions of dollars for setting up grassroots groups. This is how within a week you get 1000 No Kings protests organized. That doesn’t just happen by luck. It happens because there is a vast network in place to make it happen.
And it’s also how any time there is a bill like the BBB this network is in place to oppose it. All the opposition to the BBB did t just happen. It was planned. The bbb still passed but only by the skin of its teeth and it was watered down to nothing. And even though it passed and does nothing, this network of the left has convinced everyone it cuts Medicaid from single mothers.
Our limited NGO/pundit positions are almost completely held by controlled opposition GOPers.
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Not just no process for politicians, but no process for building a movement. The left has billions of dollars for setting up grassroots groups. This is how within a week you get 1000 No Kings protests organized. That doesn’t just happen by luck. It happens because there is a vast network in place to make it happen.
And it’s also how any time there is a bill like the BBB this network is in place to oppose it. All the opposition to the BBB did t just happen. It was planned. The bbb still passed but only by the skin of its teeth and it was watered down to nothing. And even though it passed and does nothing, this network of the left has convinced everyone it cuts Medicaid from single mothers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:08 PM (ImXfC)
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"...Except Ciattarelli is a machine politician without a coherent political philosophy other than he wants to be governor."
You nailed it, CBD, except that I'm not even sure how much he really wants to be governor. He actually had a chance in his first run against Murphy (when the truck driver won a seat in the state Senate) but he never even disputed the election after that last-minute Bergen County ballot dump. He wanted to lose with dignity, and got his wish.
Ciattarelli is a joke.
You nailed it, CBD, except that I'm not even sure how much he really wants to be governor. He actually had a chance in his first run against Murphy (when the truck driver won a seat in the state Senate) but he never even disputed the election after that last-minute Bergen County ballot dump. He wanted to lose with dignity, and got his wish.
Ciattarelli is a joke.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 13, 2025 01:09 PM (13SMu)
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The proof is their perennial candidate for governor, Jack Ciattarelli.
Will he be better than a Democrat if he wins? Even slightly? Make the Bolsheviks spend money where they don't want to. It's not limitless.
Will he be better than a Democrat if he wins? Even slightly? Make the Bolsheviks spend money where they don't want to. It's not limitless.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:09 PM (ptgc5)
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California, Oregon and Illinois, and other blue states have more red counties than blue. But they all both dominated by urban Democrats, where the population advantage lies.
Look at the electoral map by counties from 2024, and this becomes very clear.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296834021272
As many major cities across the US descend further into chaos (think SF, Philly and soon NYC) perhaps the GOP can pick up more votes from dissatisfied moderate Democrats and Independents.
Look at the electoral map by counties from 2024, and this becomes very clear.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296834021272
As many major cities across the US descend further into chaos (think SF, Philly and soon NYC) perhaps the GOP can pick up more votes from dissatisfied moderate Democrats and Independents.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 13, 2025 01:10 PM (Ovc06)
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Purging the Republican Party of RINOs and GOPe rent seekers is a long-term process. I became the Chair of my counties Republican Party in 2015, just finished my term this year (term limited out). At our level, we were doing everything we could to sideline the New England Country Club Republicans that really couldn't grasp the fundamental change that Trump was bringing to the Party. Change that was desperately needed if we wanted to win. 10 years later, we have seen some real success outside of the Minneapolis/St. Paul, Rochester, Mankato, Duluth, St. Cloud areas. We just can't seem to get Trump style Republicans to run in those areas, and when we do, the moneymen don't support them financially so they can't compete against the DFL opponents. The GHW Bush New England Country Club Republicans are aging out, but they have done everything in their power to cripple the reshaping of the Republican Party to becoming something that can actually turn this country around. George Will and the rest of his ilk have much to answer for creating the get along go along attitude of that generation of Republicans. We are winning, and we are changing the Party, but it is a long-term process.
Posted by: Assassin6 at July 13, 2025 01:10 PM (grnGK)
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if he actually succeeds in getting a little something off the ground
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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As Sean Spicer said, "Who's gonna work for him?" Which Republican operatives and fund raisers are going to trash their futures by abandoning the GOP (as pathetic as it is) for "the America party"?
if he actually succeeds in getting a little something off the ground
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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As Sean Spicer said, "Who's gonna work for him?" Which Republican operatives and fund raisers are going to trash their futures by abandoning the GOP (as pathetic as it is) for "the America party"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:11 PM (xp7+v)
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So Windows11 is the overengineered H1B version of Windows7.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 01:12 PM (lPvx2)
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It is interesting to see how... incestuous politics gets. The same people. The same families. The same social circles.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 13, 2025 01:12 PM (Yamow)
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Not just no process for politicians, but no process for building a movement.
I do think back to the 90s when the biggest protest movement in America was Operation Rescue.
It was the right putting together protests...and the left used every tool they had to arrest everyone involved. But in the end it was Mitch McConnell and the GOPe that destroyed the right's popular wing via FACE.
And even though it passed and does nothing, this network of the left has convinced everyone it cuts Medicaid from single mothers.
The same people will claim Elon stole everyone's SS checks...even if theirs still came on time. Members of the left repeat mantras, but it isn't clear if they believe them or not. I guess it largely doesn't matter as long as they continue to do what they are told.
I do think back to the 90s when the biggest protest movement in America was Operation Rescue.
It was the right putting together protests...and the left used every tool they had to arrest everyone involved. But in the end it was Mitch McConnell and the GOPe that destroyed the right's popular wing via FACE.
And even though it passed and does nothing, this network of the left has convinced everyone it cuts Medicaid from single mothers.
The same people will claim Elon stole everyone's SS checks...even if theirs still came on time. Members of the left repeat mantras, but it isn't clear if they believe them or not. I guess it largely doesn't matter as long as they continue to do what they are told.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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I would rather be ruled by 1974 Democrats than the 2000s Republicans. I remember when Reagan was running against the intolerable $80B deficit that Carter ran up.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:12 PM (ptgc5)
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What do you think of Gavin Newsom for 2028? I heard that he has a lot of baggage, but I'm finding it hard to get information on his past. I really like him and I hope he runs in 2028. Please say nice things about him. I'm running out of hope.
Baggage like Hillary or Obama? Or Biden? Not even. Republicans have a few months to turn this nice white guy with very few scandals into a demonic hell beast. And he doesn't have a vagina. Or dark skin. So it will be a little difficult.
But they won't stop with lies and innuendo. They have the military in his back yard. Anything could happen. He's not folding.
Right now, California has a bit of a bad reputation in a lot of the country, and some people blame Newsom for it. If the primaries were right now, I don't think he'd do well. Newsom is smart political animal. He's not my first choice, but I could see myself voting for him. He's got charisma, so he might go all the way.
He was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle. That makes me wonder a little bit about his judgment. I do like him, though, as a strong voice in the party.
I prefer someone like AOC or Jasmine Crockett. Someone left of center.
Baggage like Hillary or Obama? Or Biden? Not even. Republicans have a few months to turn this nice white guy with very few scandals into a demonic hell beast. And he doesn't have a vagina. Or dark skin. So it will be a little difficult.
But they won't stop with lies and innuendo. They have the military in his back yard. Anything could happen. He's not folding.
Right now, California has a bit of a bad reputation in a lot of the country, and some people blame Newsom for it. If the primaries were right now, I don't think he'd do well. Newsom is smart political animal. He's not my first choice, but I could see myself voting for him. He's got charisma, so he might go all the way.
He was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle. That makes me wonder a little bit about his judgment. I do like him, though, as a strong voice in the party.
I prefer someone like AOC or Jasmine Crockett. Someone left of center.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 13, 2025 01:13 PM (2YQ+U)
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I prefer someone like AOC or Jasmine Crockett. Someone left of center.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 13, 2025 01:13 PM
Is there a Democrat that isn't left of center?
These people are delusional.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 13, 2025 01:13 PM
Is there a Democrat that isn't left of center?
These people are delusional.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:14 PM (ptgc5)
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If Jack C. Speaks at the picnic that I'm going to attend , I will let you know what he had to say. He was invited. Whether he will attend, I do not know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 01:14 PM (2GCMq)
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They look at Gavin Newsome and see nice boy? Weird. People are just strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 13, 2025 01:15 PM (Yamow)
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It is interesting to see how... incestuous politics gets. The same people. The same families. The same social circles.
If you think of politics as "public service", doing good, etc this stuff makes no sense. In a country of 350M people, obviously the child/wife/brother of a pol is NOT the most qualified person to replace them.
If you instead think of politics as primarily a source of money and power though it becomes easy to understand. Who inherits a rich man's assets and wealth? His family, his lovers, his friends.
Now notice how politics plays out the same...
If you think of politics as "public service", doing good, etc this stuff makes no sense. In a country of 350M people, obviously the child/wife/brother of a pol is NOT the most qualified person to replace them.
If you instead think of politics as primarily a source of money and power though it becomes easy to understand. Who inherits a rich man's assets and wealth? His family, his lovers, his friends.
Now notice how politics plays out the same...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:15 PM (t0Rmr)
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Is there a Democrat that isn't left of center?
They mean left of center among Democrats.
These people are delusional.
Yeah, that too.
They mean left of center among Democrats.
These people are delusional.
Yeah, that too.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 01:17 PM (/y8xj)
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The GOPe is seriously lacking in situational awareness. If it were a single person, it would be the sort that gets caught unawares, and totally unprepared, by a grisly bear.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM (mADJX)
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The GOPe is seriously lacking in situational awareness. If it were a single person, it would be the sort that gets caught unawares, and totally unprepared, by a grisly bear.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM
I go back and forth on this. If their purpose is to be the secret leftists that always lose to the out and proud Marxists, what would they do differently?
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM
I go back and forth on this. If their purpose is to be the secret leftists that always lose to the out and proud Marxists, what would they do differently?
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:19 PM (ptgc5)
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Don't vote. It only encourages them.
Posted by: George Carlin at July 13, 2025 01:20 PM (KLmsn)
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[iI would rather be ruled by 1974 Democrats than the 2000s Republicans.
[also]
Is there a Democrat that isn't left of center?
This country and our supposed political center has moved hard left pretty consistently for almost 30 years now.
Trump, by 2000 standards, would be a center-left Democrat. And yet now we are told he is a far right extremist.
Now lefties deny this claiming the country has been moving right...and they argue this in silly ways, for example arguing "transphobia" is increasing. Well, 30 years ago a tranny showing up to do drag queen story hour at an elementary school would like be beaten AND arrested.
But you can sometimes get them to acknowledge we, and they, have gone far left, into things they would have denied anyone would have wanted then. They'll tell you "we've learned so much since then". And you can then have fun by asking, "so out of the things that you currently consider beyond the pale, horrible, and disgusting, what do you think in another 20 years you'll be arguing is just reasonable and commonsense since you will have against learned so much more?"
That has always, always ended the conversation
[also]
Is there a Democrat that isn't left of center?
This country and our supposed political center has moved hard left pretty consistently for almost 30 years now.
Trump, by 2000 standards, would be a center-left Democrat. And yet now we are told he is a far right extremist.
Now lefties deny this claiming the country has been moving right...and they argue this in silly ways, for example arguing "transphobia" is increasing. Well, 30 years ago a tranny showing up to do drag queen story hour at an elementary school would like be beaten AND arrested.
But you can sometimes get them to acknowledge we, and they, have gone far left, into things they would have denied anyone would have wanted then. They'll tell you "we've learned so much since then". And you can then have fun by asking, "so out of the things that you currently consider beyond the pale, horrible, and disgusting, what do you think in another 20 years you'll be arguing is just reasonable and commonsense since you will have against learned so much more?"
That has always, always ended the conversation
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:21 PM (t0Rmr)
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Jasmine Crockett and Sandy Cortez lean so far left of center that they've fallen over and hopefully as the old commercial says they "can't get up" By this, I wish no physical harm on them, just that their ideas would be completely rejected and they are elected no longer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 01:21 PM (2GCMq)
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And no more so than in NJ, which has a pathetic, useless, feckless, corrupt state Republican apparatus.
*waves*
*waves*
Posted by: WA State at July 13, 2025 01:23 PM (/U5Yz)
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But you can sometimes get them to acknowledge we, and they, have gone far left, into things they would have denied anyone would have wanted then. They'll tell you "we've learned so much since then".
Barack Obama thought gay marriage was a bridge too far. I can't even see Domestic Partnerships in my rearview mirror now.
Barack Obama thought gay marriage was a bridge too far. I can't even see Domestic Partnerships in my rearview mirror now.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:23 PM (ptgc5)
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I also think that you should send your remarks to Jack C, CBD. He probably isn't reading ASHQ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 01:23 PM (2GCMq)
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Barack Obama thought gay marriage was a bridge too far. I can't even see Domestic Partnerships in my rearview mirror now.
Yep, as late as 2012 Democrats formally opposed gay marriage, let alone trannies, let alone transing kids.
Yep, as late as 2012 Democrats formally opposed gay marriage, let alone trannies, let alone transing kids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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The DooM is strong here today. I may need to step up the manufacture of fainting couches.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 13, 2025 01:26 PM (89Sog)
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We had a perennial also-ran GOP candidate in Illinois named Jim Oberweis, who eventually got the clue and relocated to a red state. At least he could say he was the ice cream magnate of Illinois.
The Illinois GOP has completely collapsed since the halcyon days of Jim Edgar. Could not believe I lived to see the collar counties go freaky tattooed MILF AWFL commie.
The Illinois GOP has completely collapsed since the halcyon days of Jim Edgar. Could not believe I lived to see the collar counties go freaky tattooed MILF AWFL commie.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 13, 2025 01:28 PM (qwx/I)
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Barack Obama thought gay marriage was a bridge too far. I can't even see Domestic Partnerships in my rearview mirror now.
Yep, as late as 2012 Democrats formally opposed gay marriage, let alone trannies, let alone transing kids.
That's what happens when you're utterly devoid of principles other than power. There are no natural stopping points, no governors.
Yep, as late as 2012 Democrats formally opposed gay marriage, let alone trannies, let alone transing kids.
That's what happens when you're utterly devoid of principles other than power. There are no natural stopping points, no governors.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2025 01:28 PM (Riz8t)
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Here's a video of Gavin's "apology" for having an extramarital affair with his best friend/campaign manager's wife when he was SF Mayor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKir3tFsTAM
After 8 years as SF mayor, 8 years as Lt. Guv and 8 years as Guv, the dysfunction/corruption and mismanagement of the Golden State can be laid right at his feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKir3tFsTAM
After 8 years as SF mayor, 8 years as Lt. Guv and 8 years as Guv, the dysfunction/corruption and mismanagement of the Golden State can be laid right at his feet.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 13, 2025 01:29 PM (Ovc06)
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True story, back when the push was on for gay marriage/the then Domestic Partnerships, I went to a Town Hall for our Rep and got to speak on the subject. As you may recall it was all 'Oh, we can't even visit our loved ones in the hospital' and such shite. So I asked the Rep to nip this in the bud by making it so that anyone can legally name anyone as their Next of Kin. That would have taken care of all their plaints without giving away the store.
He listened and then started giving me advice on what I and 'Your Partner' could do. I was in the Seinfeld I'm-not-gay skit.
He listened and then started giving me advice on what I and 'Your Partner' could do. I was in the Seinfeld I'm-not-gay skit.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:30 PM (ptgc5)
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The good news is the left is fighting against reality itself and that always ends eventually.
The bad news is they've spent 30 years or so making the US Federal government the primary tool of spreading their woke religion to the world.
Eventually doesn't necessarily mean in our life times.
But it largely comes down to three things:
1) Finding and supporting political leaders that can and will fight...and win. Like Lincoln we should be aggressively deposing leaders that can't/won't fight AND those that just don't win...
2) Building explicitly right wing political and social organizations, and again removing leaders here that don't lead.
3) Waking up the normies. Given a choice between woke and normal, they'll choose normal. But they don't want to make choices and they don't want to follow politics. MAKE them choose and find ways that mesh with their interests to get them some understanding of what is going on.
The bad news is they've spent 30 years or so making the US Federal government the primary tool of spreading their woke religion to the world.
Eventually doesn't necessarily mean in our life times.
But it largely comes down to three things:
1) Finding and supporting political leaders that can and will fight...and win. Like Lincoln we should be aggressively deposing leaders that can't/won't fight AND those that just don't win...
2) Building explicitly right wing political and social organizations, and again removing leaders here that don't lead.
3) Waking up the normies. Given a choice between woke and normal, they'll choose normal. But they don't want to make choices and they don't want to follow politics. MAKE them choose and find ways that mesh with their interests to get them some understanding of what is going on.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:31 PM (t0Rmr)
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:32 PM (ptgc5)
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From Instapundit - retard leftist is so offended by by an SAS (??) gathering that he stops to heckle and challenge people to fight him. Looks somewhat gym-bro-ish at the beginning, but then he starts walking towards the person filming:
https://is.gd/3btiSo
https://is.gd/3btiSo
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 13, 2025 01:32 PM (ULPxl)
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The GOP state senator, Senate minority leader in Sacramento, signed a letter a few weeks ago to DHS begging for non-enforcement of immigration law in "critical industries". Not making this up (though I might have some non-material details wrong). Along with 5 other elected GOP from around the state.
This is pretty illustrative of the CA GOP's quality and potential. Even in 2025, stunning and pathetic.
This is pretty illustrative of the CA GOP's quality and potential. Even in 2025, stunning and pathetic.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 01:34 PM (1m82a)
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It's a mistake to compare political eras like that...the demographics, values, economic structure, culture, etc are completely changed since 1974.
Hell, it's completely changed since 2008. I was backing Rudy in 2008 and was told here that he wouldn't be viable in the South because of gun rights.
Hell, it's completely changed since 2008. I was backing Rudy in 2008 and was told here that he wouldn't be viable in the South because of gun rights.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 13, 2025 01:34 PM (qwx/I)
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The Illinois GOP has completely collapsed since the halcyon days of Jim Edgar. Could not believe I lived to see the collar counties go freaky tattooed MILF AWFL commie.
Look at it from a different perspective. Imagine you are someone who has had some success in business, or the military, or any non-political organization, you are politically right leaning, and you think you could make a good politician but you live in a blue area.
If you enter you will probably lose the race. And when you enter that political race most of your former business/etc colleagues will disown you. And after you lose you can fall back on...what?
So why take that risk? This is why I argue we need right leaning organizations for those people to fall back on and support themselves. Instead that money and position goes to fund Jonah Goldberg's hotdog budget and Bill Kristol's cabin boy fund.
The Illinois GOP has completely collapsed since the halcyon days of Jim Edgar. Could not believe I lived to see the collar counties go freaky tattooed MILF AWFL commie.
Look at it from a different perspective. Imagine you are someone who has had some success in business, or the military, or any non-political organization, you are politically right leaning, and you think you could make a good politician but you live in a blue area.
If you enter you will probably lose the race. And when you enter that political race most of your former business/etc colleagues will disown you. And after you lose you can fall back on...what?
So why take that risk? This is why I argue we need right leaning organizations for those people to fall back on and support themselves. Instead that money and position goes to fund Jonah Goldberg's hotdog budget and Bill Kristol's cabin boy fund.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:35 PM (t0Rmr)
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91 I go back and forth on this. If their purpose is to be the secret leftists that always lose to the out and proud Marxists, what would they do differently? - toby928
Some, indeed, may be leftist plants, but I think most are just complacent timeservers, exemplars of Babbitry, small-minded people who have no vision and no sense of existential danger. They're embarrassed by the zeal of the genuine conservatives in the party because they have no firm principles themselves and resent their constituents' sometimes noisy insistence that their constitutional rights be respected. They are mere stickmen on whom we cannot rely.
Some, indeed, may be leftist plants, but I think most are just complacent timeservers, exemplars of Babbitry, small-minded people who have no vision and no sense of existential danger. They're embarrassed by the zeal of the genuine conservatives in the party because they have no firm principles themselves and resent their constituents' sometimes noisy insistence that their constitutional rights be respected. They are mere stickmen on whom we cannot rely.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:37 PM (mADJX)
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Barack Obama thought gay marriage was a bridge too far. I can't even see Domestic Partnerships in my rearview mirror now.
And yet, the Dems are apparently looking at Obama to pull them out of the ditch. Do it. DO ITTTTT!!!!
https://is.gd/Hz4qBJ
And yet, the Dems are apparently looking at Obama to pull them out of the ditch. Do it. DO ITTTTT!!!!
https://is.gd/Hz4qBJ
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2025 01:37 PM (Riz8t)
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The Delmarva is red except for Delaware. Kegans barely won because of the urban area around Virginia Beach. Local news might as well be NYC for all the shootings.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 01:38 PM (oERdd)
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Can't find a soul I'm Delaware who foisted Sundowner onto the country
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 01:41 PM (+qU29)
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103 So I asked the Rep to nip this in the bud by making it so that anyone can legally name anyone as their Next of Kin. - toby928
I, too, thought that something like that would have been a decent compromise. Why not small "voluntary civil associations", not limited to sexual relationships, that would share most of the same rights as families?
I, too, thought that something like that would have been a decent compromise. Why not small "voluntary civil associations", not limited to sexual relationships, that would share most of the same rights as families?
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:41 PM (mADJX)
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Speaking of governor races, Iowa's is going to get interesting. We were driving and I saw a sign for an unfamiliar name for governor. I was pretty sure we're not in an election year, so I had to look it up. Turns out I was right, Rob Sands from the Democrat party is throwing his hat into the ring suuuuuper early. Kim Reynolds is not running for re-election, and this Dem is the only Dem at a statewide level (state auditor). I'm not thrilled about any of the prospective GOP nominees, and I certainly don't want our congressman to run because we *need* him Congress.
Keep an eye on this one, it could get wild, since the state GOP doesn't love Trump but the voters do.
Keep an eye on this one, it could get wild, since the state GOP doesn't love Trump but the voters do.
Posted by: pookysgirl, resting from vacation at July 13, 2025 01:42 PM (Wt5PA)
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It's a mistake to compare political eras like that...the demographics, values, economic structure, culture, etc are completely changed since 1974.
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Because the Left and their backers have constantly pushed across the board for "Change!" while the Right was mainly concerned with making the stock market numbers bigger.
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Because the Left and their backers have constantly pushed across the board for "Change!" while the Right was mainly concerned with making the stock market numbers bigger.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:43 PM (zLwRl)
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Newt was the the last gasp of even pretend fiscal conservatives among the Republican leadership. At this point we are so far past the debt event horizon I can't even imagine a solution that doesn't involve default, either de jure with repudiation, or de facto with inflation.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:43 PM (ptgc5)
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And yet, the Dems are apparently looking at Obama to pull them out of the ditch. Do it. DO ITTTTT!!!!
I'm not as sure as you and the writer of that article seem to be that Obama would be a minus for the Dems. Certainly we all think he's a loser but we were in the minority for two elections with that view. I think he still holds a lot of sway within the party and a not insignificant amount in the country as a whole. And of course the MFM would relish any opportunity to break out the halo pics again.
I'm not as sure as you and the writer of that article seem to be that Obama would be a minus for the Dems. Certainly we all think he's a loser but we were in the minority for two elections with that view. I think he still holds a lot of sway within the party and a not insignificant amount in the country as a whole. And of course the MFM would relish any opportunity to break out the halo pics again.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 01:44 PM (/y8xj)
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So yeah, fiscal doom. I just want the New Dollar to Reagan on it and not Obama.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:44 PM (ptgc5)
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Really, Skip? The only place I ever saw Biden signs/flags was in Delaware. I did see more Trump signage than Biden along that route, up 113 to the DMB. I never take 13
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 01:46 PM (T1QkV)
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I, too, thought that something like that would have been a decent compromise. Why not small "voluntary civil associations", not limited to sexual relationships, that would share most of the same rights as families?
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:41 PM (mADJX)
How about "adopted sibling"? Might be useful for single elders, too, for tax and inheritance reasons.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:41 PM (mADJX)
How about "adopted sibling"? Might be useful for single elders, too, for tax and inheritance reasons.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 01:46 PM (75bSB)
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But, then again, you are SE Pa and Wilmington.
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 01:47 PM (T1QkV)
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There's nothing wrong with two confirmed bachelors adopting each other as brothers.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:48 PM (ptgc5)
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113 Can't find a soul I'm Delaware who foisted Sundowner onto the country
Nor a German in Munich who was a Nazi.
Nor a German in Munich who was a Nazi.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2025 01:50 PM (Riz8t)
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> And yet, the Dems are apparently looking at Obama to pull them out of the ditch. Do it. DO ITTTTT!!!!
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Yea, the guy whose junta put thousands of deep state ticks in FedGov to dick up the works for anyone but leftists. Ticks that are still there. Many in black robes. Others in FedGov manager's offices.
No thanks.
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Yea, the guy whose junta put thousands of deep state ticks in FedGov to dick up the works for anyone but leftists. Ticks that are still there. Many in black robes. Others in FedGov manager's offices.
No thanks.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2025 01:50 PM (Q4IgG)
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It's mid eighties, sun's out, and golf almost over, new kid looks to win, that's always nice.
Rose of sharon and butterfly bush, and daisies in full bloom, I will go sit among them soon and wallow in the food thread. For which I got nothing.
Rose of sharon and butterfly bush, and daisies in full bloom, I will go sit among them soon and wallow in the food thread. For which I got nothing.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 01:50 PM (n4GiU)
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And yet, the Dems are apparently looking at Obama to pull them out of the ditch. Do it. DO ITTTTT!!!!
I'm not as sure as you and the writer of that article seem to be that Obama would be a minus for the Dems. Certainly we all think he's a loser but we were in the minority for two elections with that view. I think he still holds a lot of sway within the party and a not insignificant amount in the country as a whole. And of course the MFM would relish any opportunity to break out the halo pics again.
The problem with being a fad is that fads inevitably die. Obama was a celebrity, not a politician. He has been revealed as feckless, dishonest, and selfish. The MFM would certainly try, but I think they'd be flogging a dead horse's skeletal ghost.
I'm not as sure as you and the writer of that article seem to be that Obama would be a minus for the Dems. Certainly we all think he's a loser but we were in the minority for two elections with that view. I think he still holds a lot of sway within the party and a not insignificant amount in the country as a whole. And of course the MFM would relish any opportunity to break out the halo pics again.
The problem with being a fad is that fads inevitably die. Obama was a celebrity, not a politician. He has been revealed as feckless, dishonest, and selfish. The MFM would certainly try, but I think they'd be flogging a dead horse's skeletal ghost.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 13, 2025 01:51 PM (Riz8t)
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If Microsoft wants more H1B workers, then move the jobs to India and stop the pretense. Just admit you won't consider having Americans to work for you, by moving the jobs outright.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 12:58 PM
Microsoft has been moving a lot of jobs to India. There are around 10k direct employees in the country. In the latest round of mass layoffs it was almost all US jobs. India was pretty much untouched. Along with Eastern Europe which is kinda the new India as far as tech outsourcing goes.
The majority of employees is still US based but the ratio of US: Non-Us is shrinking every year.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:03 PM
The same has been happening in the US auto industry since COVID. Ford, GM and FCA/Stellantis have pushed out probably 50% of their local engineers / management and replaced them with cheap labor in India, Mexico and people from India living in Canada (mostly Toronto, which seems to be majority Muslim and dot-Indian now). Almost all American companies have used the move to remote work to eliminate their American workforce and replace with remote cheap labor in India, Mexico and Canada.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2025 12:58 PM
Microsoft has been moving a lot of jobs to India. There are around 10k direct employees in the country. In the latest round of mass layoffs it was almost all US jobs. India was pretty much untouched. Along with Eastern Europe which is kinda the new India as far as tech outsourcing goes.
The majority of employees is still US based but the ratio of US: Non-Us is shrinking every year.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:03 PM
The same has been happening in the US auto industry since COVID. Ford, GM and FCA/Stellantis have pushed out probably 50% of their local engineers / management and replaced them with cheap labor in India, Mexico and people from India living in Canada (mostly Toronto, which seems to be majority Muslim and dot-Indian now). Almost all American companies have used the move to remote work to eliminate their American workforce and replace with remote cheap labor in India, Mexico and Canada.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 13, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp)
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Not to short change FWP or nothing, but got to tie up the tomato plants some before breaking out the tablet out back.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 01:53 PM (n4GiU)
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I'm eating six day old smoked pork with chili Fritos. My wife won't eat leftovers that are more than 2 days old so I have to deal with about 3lbs of barbeque.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:56 PM (jc0TO)
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I have to deal with about 3lbs of barbeque.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:56 PM (jc0TO)
That sucks.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:56 PM (jc0TO)
That sucks.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 01:58 PM (lPvx2)
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That sucks.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 01:58 PM
Yeah, FWP and cooking thread content combined.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 01:58 PM
Yeah, FWP and cooking thread content combined.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:58 PM (jc0TO)
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My wife won't eat leftovers that are more than 2 days old so I have to deal with about 3lbs of barbeque.
Ten day's from when cooked if kept in cold fridge. Seven days is better, but ten usually won't make you sick. Meats, veggies don't last.
Ten day's from when cooked if kept in cold fridge. Seven days is better, but ten usually won't make you sick. Meats, veggies don't last.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 01:59 PM (n4GiU)
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My wife calls me goat child.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 01:59 PM (jc0TO)
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I grew up in a family where wasting food was considered an actual sin.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:00 PM (jc0TO)
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Meat better have been green before you threw it way, and even then it went to the dog.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 02:01 PM (jc0TO)
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1ST WORLD NOOD
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 02:01 PM (+qU29)
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Well, the new kid golfer won, Rory second. His name's Gotterup.
He Gotterup a while back, he finally got 'er 'ome in Scotland.
He Gotterup a while back, he finally got 'er 'ome in Scotland.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (n4GiU)
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MSFT pays about 1/3 for people in India as in the US. It is good for stockholders I suppose, but not for Americans.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:07 PM
Same for US auto industry. Stellantis pays 1/3 to 1/2 wages to cheap labor "engineers" in India as they do for a local American direct employee in the same position. My position when I was a direct employee was at $108k. The cheap labor "engineers" working remotely in India, Mexico and people from India working remotely in Canada are making about half that.
Not to mention, since they are contracted cheap labor, Stellantis does not have to pay for their health insurance, 401(k) or profit sharing.
And then there are those of us who were laid off last year who were forced to take a pay cut down to $83k if we could get back in to our former positions. But Stellantis has a policy in place that for every local American engineer hired, the department has to hire 3-4 BCCs (Best Cost Country cheap labor "engineers").
In my dept., prior to COVID, we were 100% local engineers, with probably a 75-25 split in direct vs contract. Over the past 5 years, the dept. is 80% remote BCCs with only 20% local engineers.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:07 PM
Same for US auto industry. Stellantis pays 1/3 to 1/2 wages to cheap labor "engineers" in India as they do for a local American direct employee in the same position. My position when I was a direct employee was at $108k. The cheap labor "engineers" working remotely in India, Mexico and people from India working remotely in Canada are making about half that.
Not to mention, since they are contracted cheap labor, Stellantis does not have to pay for their health insurance, 401(k) or profit sharing.
And then there are those of us who were laid off last year who were forced to take a pay cut down to $83k if we could get back in to our former positions. But Stellantis has a policy in place that for every local American engineer hired, the department has to hire 3-4 BCCs (Best Cost Country cheap labor "engineers").
In my dept., prior to COVID, we were 100% local engineers, with probably a 75-25 split in direct vs contract. Over the past 5 years, the dept. is 80% remote BCCs with only 20% local engineers.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (P5BPp)
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Yesterday, I'm sure it won't be official, but here in NW Nevada 4 out of my 5 thermometers around the yard broke 110°f. The one that didn't was 104. Wifes car said 119 at one point about 5pm.
Today looks worse.
Today looks worse.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (lPvx2)
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If we have to have cheap Indian labor, I'd rather it be Indians in India than H1-B tribalists running the tech companies. I acknowledge the overgeneralization.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:07 PM
Indians in India are being given all the engineering jobs in the auto industry. Wonder why the quality in auto industry has gone to shit, it's because of the 72 average IQ Indian "engineers" that have been hired over the past 5 years in the auto industry who are completely incompetent with zero work ethic. Trust me, I have been working with these idiots for the past 3 years.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:07 PM
Indians in India are being given all the engineering jobs in the auto industry. Wonder why the quality in auto industry has gone to shit, it's because of the 72 average IQ Indian "engineers" that have been hired over the past 5 years in the auto industry who are completely incompetent with zero work ethic. Trust me, I have been working with these idiots for the past 3 years.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 13, 2025 02:04 PM (P5BPp)
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Until the Corporate Republican Party recognizes that it is not business as usual
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They are blinded by lack of character and willingly led by money and little children.
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They are blinded by lack of character and willingly led by money and little children.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:05 PM (KFYyV)
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Not just no process for politicians, but no process for building a movement. The left has billions of dollars for setting up grassroots groups. This is how within a week you get 1000 No Kings protests organized. That doesn’t just happen by luck. It happens because there is a vast network in place to make it happen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:08 PM
Yep, I found out about Discover the Networks about 10-12 years ago. And when I did, it was shocking and depressing. Then there is all the power and influence the WEF has, not to mention companies like Vanguard and Blackrock. Conservatives have nothing even close to any of that.
The left also has something in mass amounts that conservatives do not have... plenty of do-nothing losers who are willing to be paid activists. Conservatives are busy actually working and raising families and living normal lives, while the left makes their lives all about activism.
Discover the Networks: https://bit.ly/3CkMrr1
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 01:08 PM
Yep, I found out about Discover the Networks about 10-12 years ago. And when I did, it was shocking and depressing. Then there is all the power and influence the WEF has, not to mention companies like Vanguard and Blackrock. Conservatives have nothing even close to any of that.
The left also has something in mass amounts that conservatives do not have... plenty of do-nothing losers who are willing to be paid activists. Conservatives are busy actually working and raising families and living normal lives, while the left makes their lives all about activism.
Discover the Networks: https://bit.ly/3CkMrr1
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 13, 2025 02:09 PM (P5BPp)
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The GOPe is seriously lacking in situational awareness. If it were a single person, it would be the sort that gets caught unawares, and totally unprepared, by a grisly bear.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM (mADJX)
They're the ones that try stand by a wild water buffalo to take a selfie.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM (mADJX)
They're the ones that try stand by a wild water buffalo to take a selfie.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 02:19 PM (g8Ew8)
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Barack Obama thought gay marriage was a bridge too far. I can't even see Domestic Partnerships in my rearview mirror now.
Yep, as late as 2012 Democrats formally opposed gay marriage, let alone trannies, let alone transing kids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:24 PM
According to Grok, Barack Obama publicly expressed his support for same-sex marriage on May 9, 2012, during an interview with ABC News.
So during the 2012 Presidential campaign, the Democrat party officially came out in support of same-sex "marriage". He also opposed Prop 8 in 2008:
"Barack Obama opposed Proposition 8 in California, which sought to ban same-sex marriage. During the 2008 presidential campaign, he expressed his opposition to the measure, stating that he believed marriage should be between a man and a woman but also opposed Proposition 8 because it was discriminatory and unnecessary. However, his stance on same-sex marriage itself evolved later, as he announced his support for it in 2012."
Yep, as late as 2012 Democrats formally opposed gay marriage, let alone trannies, let alone transing kids.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2025 01:24 PM
According to Grok, Barack Obama publicly expressed his support for same-sex marriage on May 9, 2012, during an interview with ABC News.
So during the 2012 Presidential campaign, the Democrat party officially came out in support of same-sex "marriage". He also opposed Prop 8 in 2008:
"Barack Obama opposed Proposition 8 in California, which sought to ban same-sex marriage. During the 2008 presidential campaign, he expressed his opposition to the measure, stating that he believed marriage should be between a man and a woman but also opposed Proposition 8 because it was discriminatory and unnecessary. However, his stance on same-sex marriage itself evolved later, as he announced his support for it in 2012."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 13, 2025 02:22 PM (P5BPp)
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Yesterday, I'm sure it won't be official, but here in NW Nevada 4 out of my 5 thermometers around the yard broke 110°f. The one that didn't was 104. Wifes car said 119 at one point about 5pm.
Today looks worse.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (lPvx2
Wow. Who would've thought that Nevada was hot?
Today looks worse.
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (lPvx2
Wow. Who would've thought that Nevada was hot?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 02:23 PM (g8Ew8)
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If wishes were fishes, beggars would complain about having to eat seafood all the time.
Posted by: Jon at July 13, 2025 02:40 PM (0wBhX)
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My dad said that pretty frequently. Back in the day.
Posted by: NC Ref at July 13, 2025 03:21 PM (846VF)
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144 The GOPe is seriously lacking in situational awareness. If it were a single person, it would be the sort that gets caught unawares, and totally unprepared, by a grisly bear.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM (mADJX)
They're the ones that try stand by a wild water buffalo to take a selfie.
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Or falling asleep in their car which they parked astride an active railroad track.
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 01:18 PM (mADJX)
They're the ones that try stand by a wild water buffalo to take a selfie.
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Or falling asleep in their car which they parked astride an active railroad track.
Posted by: THE Grand Old Pussies at July 13, 2025 03:57 PM (qUkBO)
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"[T]the GOPe, or failed Republican Party, or whatever you want to call them is still a powerful force in many states, and their sclerotic vision for America has created significant issues for the Trump Doctrine."
John Hinderaker of Power Line - whose Republican Party Country Club blazer is always smartly pressed - has announced that it's certain the Democrats will regain a majority in the House of Representatives in 2026.
John Hinderaker of Power Line - whose Republican Party Country Club blazer is always smartly pressed - has announced that it's certain the Democrats will regain a majority in the House of Representatives in 2026.
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Z+Yyx)
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There may be some closer-to-the-grassroots changes going on in Joisey.
-- Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (/y8xj)
8 It's pronounced, "Jersey". Brooklyn people say "Joisey". Even people I know from Hoboken and JERSEY City don't say Joisey. Sheesh. I'm sure Fen will agree.
--thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (5xuJ/)
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There might be a slight "AR" inflection but yeah, it's pronounced "Jersey."
-- Oddbob at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (/y8xj)
8 It's pronounced, "Jersey". Brooklyn people say "Joisey". Even people I know from Hoboken and JERSEY City don't say Joisey. Sheesh. I'm sure Fen will agree.
--thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (5xuJ/)
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There might be a slight "AR" inflection but yeah, it's pronounced "Jersey."
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 13, 2025 06:13 PM (Z+Yyx)
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13 Scott Pressler is all-in on that [NJ Governor] race.
Posted by: geewhiz at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (wn50e)
That is very good news.
Posted by: geewhiz at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (wn50e)
That is very good news.
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 13, 2025 06:16 PM (jnSxx)
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15 There are many parts of NJ that are conservative.
Sadly, the state is dominated by the cities, and the squishy suburbs of NYC and Philly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (VTAje)
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Similarly, many parts of Virginia are conservative, but the Commonwealth is dominated by the deep staters and govt contractors in northern Virginia.
NoVaMoMes are great there, though.
Sadly, the state is dominated by the cities, and the squishy suburbs of NYC and Philly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (VTAje)
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Similarly, many parts of Virginia are conservative, but the Commonwealth is dominated by the deep staters and govt contractors in northern Virginia.
NoVaMoMes are great there, though.
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23 Between the state and teachers unions, they, in most cases, have the elections sewn up tight.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:18 PM (5xuJ/)
And of course the teachers' union members are govt/state employees.
I wonder what %age of NJ teachers know that "to secure these [individual civil] rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:18 PM (5xuJ/)
And of course the teachers' union members are govt/state employees.
I wonder what %age of NJ teachers know that "to secure these [individual civil] rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
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But Republicans winning the year after Trump won? Not gonna happen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (ImXfC)
This due to Republican and conservative voters being fat, dumb and happy. They need not participate in elections (self-government is TOO HARD) because, well, we have our King.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
This is why it's such good news that Scott Pressler is working in New Jersey.
But Republicans winning the year after Trump won? Not gonna happen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (ImXfC)
This due to Republican and conservative voters being fat, dumb and happy. They need not participate in elections (self-government is TOO HARD) because, well, we have our King.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (vm8sq)
This is why it's such good news that Scott Pressler is working in New Jersey.
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46 Tons of apartments are being built in every town that has a railroad station, especially Woodbridge, New Brunswick, Edison, Bound Brook, Somerville, and towns along the shore RR line.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:30 PM (5xuJ/)
Metuchen?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 13, 2025 12:30 PM (5xuJ/)
Metuchen?
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 13, 2025 06:38 PM (jnSxx)
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78 Purging the Republican Party of RINOs and GOPe rent seekers is a long-term process. . . . success outside of the Minneapolis/St. Paul, . . . areas. . . . The GHW Bush New England Country Club Republicans are aging out, but they have done everything in their power to cripple the reshaping of the Republican Party to becoming something that can actually turn this country around.
Posted by: Assassin6 at July 13, 2025 01:10 PM (grnGK)
Is John Hinderaker's Power Line blog in a death spiral? He keeps his Republican Party Country Club blazer smartly pressed.
Posted by: Assassin6 at July 13, 2025 01:10 PM (grnGK)
Is John Hinderaker's Power Line blog in a death spiral? He keeps his Republican Party Country Club blazer smartly pressed.
Posted by: LibertyDefender at July 13, 2025 06:48 PM (jnSxx)
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Traditional politicians are traditional politicians. They didn't go into politics to fix the country. They went in to make a lot of money and be big shots. The money is not in fixing things, it is in making interests happy. Joe Regular can't pay you, make sure you get a cushy job, or steer you to big opportunities, or put their finger on something so you make bank. Making government less overreaching lowers a politician's leverage to get paid. D & R are just marketing terms and perhaps somewhat determining which segment of the real world they grift from.
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Sunday Morning Book Thread - 7-13-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
PIC NOTE
Last week I showed a pic of my cat Allie resting on one of my books while I was trying to read it. Well, she's not the only kitty who serves as a book critic in my household. My cat Penny seen above also likes to rest her weary head on my books from time to time. I don't know if they like the smell or the feel of books, but they seem to enjoy books as much as I do in their own way. I have had a few issues with my cats trying to scratch my books like a scratching post. THE DEATH OF SHORT FICTION MAGAZINES(HT: OrangeEnt)
Comment: I know it's been mentioned around here that the EU seems to have completely lost the spark of innovation that made the Enlightenment possible. The Industrial Revolution was born out of constant innovation. The Digital Revolution also required constant innovation to achieve the technology level we enjoy today. I do wonder sometimes if we are reaching the limits of what is possible under our current understanding of physics. What could possibly be the next incredible breakthrough that will allow humanity to progress to the next level? What human-created barriers are standing in the way? Yeah, governments and regulation are in that mix.
Read Permissionless Innovation: The Continuing Case for Comprehensive Technological Freedom this week (again). It is non-fiction. Much of it would be intuitive to the Horde, but good to fully develop the different philosophies on regulation and the corresponding trade-offs. One key take away is that true innovation that looks forward typically challenges existing regulation that can only look backwards and is primarily concerned about downside risk. Lots of variations on the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" theme, but that line of logic only goes so far. Good book read through the lens of AI and digital assets/tokenization. Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2025 09:43 AM (IQ6Gq)
Comment: That's a neat trick about writing an entertaining story where all of the characters are unlikable in some way. Though it's often used for comedic effect on television shows like Seinfeld or It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. In the story described above, it sounds like everyone involved has secrets within secrets, so the reader wants to see how those are revealed over the course of the adventure even if we don't like the characters. Perhaps knowing the secrets helps us understand how and why the characters developed into the current personas. MORE MORON RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE FOUND HERE: AoSHQ - Book Thread Recommendations
Last week's discussion about books where we did not like the characters recalls to mind Night Over Water by Ken Follett. A Pan Am clipper seaplane departs England in 1939 just as war is declared, headed for the US. Aboard are a fascist and his family, a runaway wife, a brother and sister fighting for control of dad's company, and a flight engineer whose wife has been kidnapped and will be killed if the plane lands on schedule. The story is tense and engaging, even though you may hope that several of the passengers don't survive. When the plane makes a fuel stop in Ireland, who should join the passenger list but the husband of the cheating wife, to confront her and her American lover. To make matters worse, the plane then has to fly across the Atlantic through storms, while the engineer is fudging the fuel numbers to comply with the kidnappers. What this motley group doesn't know is that there is also a German scientist aboard that the Nazis want to hold onto, as well as a mob boss. Everyone is hiding something, or running from it, and the odds are decreasing that anyone will survive. This novel shows that a story can be entertaining even if you dislike every character. Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 06, 2025 09:11 AM (uU/gw)
Sadly, Huggy Squirrel's The Needle in the Nut never found a publisher.
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Really?
Really?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 08:57 AM (Tv15w)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 08:57 AM (q3u5l)
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Read an old western short story, "The Man Who Rode 'Purgatory,'" by a writer unknown to me, Charles Aiden Seltzer. This came through Raconteur Press again. Honestly, I think this site is a trove of information on old writers, and collections, plus they publish story works themselves - as Wolfus Aurelius can attest.
Seltzer sold hundreds of short stories before doing novels. Consider how many he might have sold if he was writing in the modern day, with almost no outlets for short form writing available, as seen by the JDA vid.
The story is over a hundred years old, but reads as modern as if he wrote it last month. We're conditioned to believe Edwardian and earlier writers wrote in a flowery, dense way. This story isn't. It's accessible to the modern reader. I may search out his novels and see what they're like. I'd recommend anyone who reads westerns to do the same.
Seltzer sold hundreds of short stories before doing novels. Consider how many he might have sold if he was writing in the modern day, with almost no outlets for short form writing available, as seen by the JDA vid.
The story is over a hundred years old, but reads as modern as if he wrote it last month. We're conditioned to believe Edwardian and earlier writers wrote in a flowery, dense way. This story isn't. It's accessible to the modern reader. I may search out his novels and see what they're like. I'd recommend anyone who reads westerns to do the same.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 08:58 AM (0eaVi)
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Tolle Lege
Read a lot this week on Rick Atkinson's Day of the Battle, a account of the Italian campaign in WWII
Highly recommend his books
Read a lot this week on Rick Atkinson's Day of the Battle, a account of the Italian campaign in WWII
Highly recommend his books
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 08:59 AM (+qU29)
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Booken morgen horden
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 09:00 AM (sT/8C)
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What could possibly be the next incredible breakthrough that will allow humanity to progress to the next level? What human-created barriers are standing in the way? Yeah, governments and regulation are in that mix.
One of the Weinsteins (Bret?) has been deriding physics as having become constipated by its obsession with string theory. He speaks of that often when he appears on podcasts.
What could possibly be the next incredible breakthrough that will allow humanity to progress to the next level? What human-created barriers are standing in the way? Yeah, governments and regulation are in that mix.
One of the Weinsteins (Bret?) has been deriding physics as having become constipated by its obsession with string theory. He speaks of that often when he appears on podcasts.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Tv15w)
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Seeing the PKD book in the opening photo reminds me that I set aside The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and need to get back and finish it.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 09:03 AM (/HDaX)
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I snagged a 3 month free trial of audible via prime and am finally able to listen to Lost Planet Homicide by Larry Correia which is an audible exclusive novella
So good! The wrting is fun and tge narrator is excellent.
Starting on the sequel now.
So good! The wrting is fun and tge narrator is excellent.
Starting on the sequel now.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 09:04 AM (sT/8C)
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Apologies, it is Eric Weinstein.
Here he is on Joe Rogan ...
https://youtu.be/qJUCwmoC7VI?si=UC-ypm4vylu4xrse
Apologies, it is Eric Weinstein.
Here he is on Joe Rogan ...
https://youtu.be/qJUCwmoC7VI?si=UC-ypm4vylu4xrse
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 09:04 AM (Tv15w)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 09:05 AM (yTvNw)
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I'm in my way to church. No; I am not driving.
I aml re- reading because of good memories sake and because they're good books for teen girls or older women -some of the Anne of Green Gables series - Beautiful description on nature , of friendship and interesting character studies. Ones I'm reading now are when Anne goes off to college and the next one is her getting married.
I aml re- reading because of good memories sake and because they're good books for teen girls or older women -some of the Anne of Green Gables series - Beautiful description on nature , of friendship and interesting character studies. Ones I'm reading now are when Anne goes off to college and the next one is her getting married.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 09:06 AM (8JBl9)
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Perfesser, top pic should be titled
Feline dreams of android mice
Feline dreams of android mice
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 09:06 AM (sT/8C)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 09:08 AM (kpS4V)
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Yay book thread! Just started "Our Man in Havana," which is an "entertainment" for Graham Greene, rather than a "novel," like "The Quiet American."
Speaking of the latter, I've resumed watching the Type 56 podcast, and there is quite a bit of discussion about the French phase of the Vietnam conflict, which Greene describes. The podcast confirms what I found when writing Walls of Men that the Chicoms were effectively fighting a proxy war, and the Viet Minh were just along for the ride.
Speaking of the latter, I've resumed watching the Type 56 podcast, and there is quite a bit of discussion about the French phase of the Vietnam conflict, which Greene describes. The podcast confirms what I found when writing Walls of Men that the Chicoms were effectively fighting a proxy war, and the Viet Minh were just along for the ride.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:08 AM (ZOv7s)
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Morning, Book folken,
Yes, the old SF magazines are stumbling. F & SF is only every other month now, or maybe it's quarterly. AS for mystery, Ellery Queen's and Alfred Hitchcock's magazines are still going, but they may be bimonthly now too.
It's a shame that anthologies and online magazines are almost the only outlet now for short stories. Writing a complete story in a space of 4000-5000 words is good training for writing longer things, and if you have several tales appearing in magazines (or that used to be true), it was a good indicator to a publishing house editor that you could write.
Yes, the old SF magazines are stumbling. F & SF is only every other month now, or maybe it's quarterly. AS for mystery, Ellery Queen's and Alfred Hitchcock's magazines are still going, but they may be bimonthly now too.
It's a shame that anthologies and online magazines are almost the only outlet now for short stories. Writing a complete story in a space of 4000-5000 words is good training for writing longer things, and if you have several tales appearing in magazines (or that used to be true), it was a good indicator to a publishing house editor that you could write.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:09 AM (omVj0)
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Penny looks something like my big black Stirling. He's a medium hair cat with plushy silky fur and a slightly plumy tail. Fortunately he has never shown any interest in sitting on or ravaging my books.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:10 AM (omVj0)
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Devotional reading is a re-reading of Fr. Jean Pierre de Caussade's Abandonment to Divine Providence" He was a Jesuit who lived in the 1700's.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 09:11 AM (8JBl9)
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I think Kristine Rusch used the term "discoverability" in talking about the problem of simply making your stuff visible in the flood of material out there. This was a problem for the new writer even before Amazon dropped its magazine subscription program.
If you don't advertise or plug your stuff relentlessly on social media, how do you make your way out of the digital slush pile? Beats me.
But weird things happen. At Mrs Some Guy's family reunion a few weeks ago, one of the relatives said he'd bought my novel and short stories from Amazon. He said he'd been scrolling through a list of "you might like this" recommendations on Amazon, and my novel came up. I don't advertise or do the social media number, so how that novel, which hadn't sold a copy in well over a year, came up in that list is beyond me. I didn't do it, so Amazon must have done it. But why and how? Who knows?
If you don't advertise or plug your stuff relentlessly on social media, how do you make your way out of the digital slush pile? Beats me.
But weird things happen. At Mrs Some Guy's family reunion a few weeks ago, one of the relatives said he'd bought my novel and short stories from Amazon. He said he'd been scrolling through a list of "you might like this" recommendations on Amazon, and my novel came up. I don't advertise or do the social media number, so how that novel, which hadn't sold a copy in well over a year, came up in that list is beyond me. I didn't do it, so Amazon must have done it. But why and how? Who knows?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:12 AM (q3u5l)
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This week I read Adrian Tchaikovsky's standalone novel "Shroud", which is an excellent alien first contact story, that i thoroughly enjoyed.
Now I am reading his "Alien Clay", about a scientist who is banished to a prison/death planet, who investigates alien artifacts on that world while trying desperately to stay alive rather than be worked to death or killed by the various nasty flora and fauna that inhabit the world. So far so good.
Tchaikovsky, who wrote the "Children of Time/Ruin/Memory" trilogy, as well as the "Final Architecture" trilogy (which is stunningly good, IMHO), has become my second favorite British sci fi writer, right after Alastair Reynolds. Which reminds me, time to read more of him, as well.
Good morning, Most Excellent Book Nerds.
Now I am reading his "Alien Clay", about a scientist who is banished to a prison/death planet, who investigates alien artifacts on that world while trying desperately to stay alive rather than be worked to death or killed by the various nasty flora and fauna that inhabit the world. So far so good.
Tchaikovsky, who wrote the "Children of Time/Ruin/Memory" trilogy, as well as the "Final Architecture" trilogy (which is stunningly good, IMHO), has become my second favorite British sci fi writer, right after Alastair Reynolds. Which reminds me, time to read more of him, as well.
Good morning, Most Excellent Book Nerds.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 13, 2025 09:13 AM (/RHNq)
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I suspect the publishing market is so oversaturated with content due to the rise of independent publishing that it's very, very difficult for aspiring writers to find a significant following.
Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the whole business is dominated by Wokies, could it?
Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the whole business is dominated by Wokies, could it?
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 09:13 AM (/y8xj)
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Yay book thread! Just started "Our Man in Havana," which is an "entertainment" for Graham Greene, rather than a "novel," like "The Quiet American.". . .
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025
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Our Man is sort of a comedy, as if Get Smart were to be done as a black comedy.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025
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Our Man is sort of a comedy, as if Get Smart were to be done as a black comedy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:14 AM (omVj0)
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I enjoy clever books. Books with ingenious plots, twists, or stories within stories. The latter is precisely how Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz is written. The first half of this book is the original manuscript of Magpie Murders the fictional latest (and last) Atticus Pund mystery by Alan Conway. Editor Susan Ryeland reads through it, and realizes that the final chapter is missing.
The next morning, Conway's body is found at the foot of the tower at his mansion. Suicide? As Susan interrogates Alan's associates searching for the last chapter, she realizes that his novels are more autobiographical than anyone realized. The more she investigates, the less she believes that Alan's death was suicide. The second half of the book follows her as she accumulates clues and develops a suspect list.
Throughout the novel, Horowitz pays homage to all of the classic mystery writers, and in fact, the manuscript of the last Atticus Pund story resembles a Poirot mystery in every way. Horowitz has packed in tricks, puzzles, and enough coincidences to keep the reader guessing all the way through.
For fans of the classic mysteries, this is an entertaining novel.
The next morning, Conway's body is found at the foot of the tower at his mansion. Suicide? As Susan interrogates Alan's associates searching for the last chapter, she realizes that his novels are more autobiographical than anyone realized. The more she investigates, the less she believes that Alan's death was suicide. The second half of the book follows her as she accumulates clues and develops a suspect list.
Throughout the novel, Horowitz pays homage to all of the classic mystery writers, and in fact, the manuscript of the last Atticus Pund story resembles a Poirot mystery in every way. Horowitz has packed in tricks, puzzles, and enough coincidences to keep the reader guessing all the way through.
For fans of the classic mysteries, this is an entertaining novel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 09:15 AM (Vfq+S)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
Currently reading The Last Orphan, in the Orphan X series. Three or four chapters in so far, with all of the expected mayhem.
Listening to Impact, by Douglas Preston. The reader is very animated, and I find myself not watching my speed (listening while driving) in the tense parts.
Currently reading The Last Orphan, in the Orphan X series. Three or four chapters in so far, with all of the expected mayhem.
Listening to Impact, by Douglas Preston. The reader is very animated, and I find myself not watching my speed (listening while driving) in the tense parts.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2025 09:15 AM (h7ZuX)
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This is a fairly depressing video for any aspiring author seeking to break out into the short fiction market.
Yeah, I can attest to that. It's hard to find places to sell short fiction. Although I have a commitment to run a short story of mine by a western themed magazine, they're so far behind in publishing, I expect my story will never see print. I've tried hard boiled stories, but that market seems to be disappearing, too. One magazine I subbed to and was rejected by, hasn't printed anything for at least two years. Their website hasn't updated either, so I assume the mag is dead. Another potential buyer lost to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if self-pub has had an effect. The fact that anyone can self-pub has probably lead to piles and piles of drek being out there, and readers searching for something good have to wade through so much dross that they give up.
Say what you will about trad pub, but at least they know - or used to know, how to publish good writers. Self-pub has allowed anyone with some bit of cash to get their books out there, but so much is junk, it seems it makes it harder for quality to be found.
Yeah, I can attest to that. It's hard to find places to sell short fiction. Although I have a commitment to run a short story of mine by a western themed magazine, they're so far behind in publishing, I expect my story will never see print. I've tried hard boiled stories, but that market seems to be disappearing, too. One magazine I subbed to and was rejected by, hasn't printed anything for at least two years. Their website hasn't updated either, so I assume the mag is dead. Another potential buyer lost to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if self-pub has had an effect. The fact that anyone can self-pub has probably lead to piles and piles of drek being out there, and readers searching for something good have to wade through so much dross that they give up.
Say what you will about trad pub, but at least they know - or used to know, how to publish good writers. Self-pub has allowed anyone with some bit of cash to get their books out there, but so much is junk, it seems it makes it harder for quality to be found.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:16 AM (0eaVi)
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The latter is precisely how Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz is written. The first half of this book is the original manuscript of Magpie Murders the fictional latest (and last) Atticus Pund mystery by Alan Conway. Editor Susan Ryeland reads through it, and realizes that the final chapter is missing.
The next morning, Conway's body is found at the foot of the tower at his mansion. Suicide? As Susan interrogates Alan's associates searching for the last chapter, she realizes that his novels are more autobiographical than anyone realized. The more she investigates, the less she believes that Alan's death was suicide. The second half of the book follows her as she accumulates clues and develops a suspect list.
Throughout the novel, Horowitz pays homage to all of the classic mystery writers, and in fact, the manuscript of the last Atticus Pund story resembles a Poirot mystery in every way. Horowitz has packed in tricks, puzzles, and enough coincidences to keep the reader guessing all the way through.
For fans of the classic mysteries, this is an entertaining novel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025
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I'll have to look for that!
The next morning, Conway's body is found at the foot of the tower at his mansion. Suicide? As Susan interrogates Alan's associates searching for the last chapter, she realizes that his novels are more autobiographical than anyone realized. The more she investigates, the less she believes that Alan's death was suicide. The second half of the book follows her as she accumulates clues and develops a suspect list.
Throughout the novel, Horowitz pays homage to all of the classic mystery writers, and in fact, the manuscript of the last Atticus Pund story resembles a Poirot mystery in every way. Horowitz has packed in tricks, puzzles, and enough coincidences to keep the reader guessing all the way through.
For fans of the classic mysteries, this is an entertaining novel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025
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I'll have to look for that!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:16 AM (omVj0)
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Dingy LA office. Rotgut in desk. Slinky damsel in distress. ...
Cut! Rewrite.
Keep the office and bottle. Make the girl mousy. Now we have "The Little Sister," a Philip Marlowe detective novel by Raymond Chandler.
The woman wants Marlowe to find her brother. He hasn't written home in months.
Marlowe goes to the guy's last address, a crumbling boarding house in a shitcan suburb. Brother moved out days ago. Some other tenants are also cutting out. And now two of them have had unfortunate encounters with an icepick.
People told me years ago that Chandler was a master with metaphors. That he is, but some fly past me because I am not well versed in 1940s lingo.
Cut! Rewrite.
Keep the office and bottle. Make the girl mousy. Now we have "The Little Sister," a Philip Marlowe detective novel by Raymond Chandler.
The woman wants Marlowe to find her brother. He hasn't written home in months.
Marlowe goes to the guy's last address, a crumbling boarding house in a shitcan suburb. Brother moved out days ago. Some other tenants are also cutting out. And now two of them have had unfortunate encounters with an icepick.
People told me years ago that Chandler was a master with metaphors. That he is, but some fly past me because I am not well versed in 1940s lingo.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 09:17 AM (p/isN)
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There are two authors that I have read that have tried to research innovation and the elements that made the enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution possible, Carlo M Cipolla, and Stephen Davies.
Cipolla wrote Guns, Sails, and Empires: Technological Innovation and the Early Phases of European Expansion, 1400–1700 which covered the same elements that Jared Diamond covered, but 30 years earlier and based on economic and historical research instead of opinion and Marxism. It discusses the drastic cultural changes that made technology adoption possible.
Davies wrote a sort of meta-study called The Wealth Explosion, The Nature and Origins of Modernity which tries to chart the changes that were necessary to bring about the innovation and adoption of technology to create human flourishing - with European examples held against Song China, and non-flourishing societies in Africa and the Americas. (Private credit and weak governments seem to be essential)
Also a shout to Joel Mokyr, but I find him hard to read.
Cipolla wrote Guns, Sails, and Empires: Technological Innovation and the Early Phases of European Expansion, 1400–1700 which covered the same elements that Jared Diamond covered, but 30 years earlier and based on economic and historical research instead of opinion and Marxism. It discusses the drastic cultural changes that made technology adoption possible.
Davies wrote a sort of meta-study called The Wealth Explosion, The Nature and Origins of Modernity which tries to chart the changes that were necessary to bring about the innovation and adoption of technology to create human flourishing - with European examples held against Song China, and non-flourishing societies in Africa and the Americas. (Private credit and weak governments seem to be essential)
Also a shout to Joel Mokyr, but I find him hard to read.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:18 AM (D7oie)
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Magpie Murders was done by 'Masterpiece' on PBS.
Posted by: dantesed at July 13, 2025 09:19 AM (Oy/m2)
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Does anyone else here look at the flood of self-pub material available (from the reader's point of view and not the writer's) and think of Yogi Berra's line about how nobody goes there any more because it's too crowded?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:20 AM (q3u5l)
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Good morning dear morons and thanks perfessor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:20 AM (RIvkX)
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People told me years ago that Chandler was a master with metaphors. That he is, but some fly past me because I am not well versed in 1940s lingo.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025
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Chandler's best mystery AS a mystery was The Lady in the Lake. The best all-around novel, I think, was his second, Farewell My Lovely. I know people rave about The Long Goodbye, but it never grabbed me like FML.
His best short story: "Red Wind," with the famous opening paragraph ("There was a wind blowing that night") and a great closing scene as well.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025
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Chandler's best mystery AS a mystery was The Lady in the Lake. The best all-around novel, I think, was his second, Farewell My Lovely. I know people rave about The Long Goodbye, but it never grabbed me like FML.
His best short story: "Red Wind," with the famous opening paragraph ("There was a wind blowing that night") and a great closing scene as well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:20 AM (omVj0)
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I picked up "Tearing Down the Orange Curtain: How Punk Rock Brought Orange County to the World" by Nate Jackson and Daniel Kohn. It's a loosely written chronicle of the scene: T.S.O.L., the Vandals, the Adolescents, Social Distortion, and ska bands No Doubt and the Offspring.
The surf and skateboard lifestyle of the suburban OC punks distinguished them from the political agitators of the UK, LA, or NYC. These kids mostly just wanted to have fun and break shit. Their deep social commentary was basically F off and let me do my thing.
The club The Cuckoo's Nest was the epicenter. It was right across the parking lot from a cowboy bar, Zubie's, and there was much animosity between the rednecks and the punk rockers; both sides were itching for a fight, and the cops were always there to bust some heads.
Urban Struggle: The Battle of The Cuckoo's Nest:
https://tinyurl.com/2vpkdmve
Clockwork Orange County:
https://tinyurl.com/5chwpep9
The surf and skateboard lifestyle of the suburban OC punks distinguished them from the political agitators of the UK, LA, or NYC. These kids mostly just wanted to have fun and break shit. Their deep social commentary was basically F off and let me do my thing.
The club The Cuckoo's Nest was the epicenter. It was right across the parking lot from a cowboy bar, Zubie's, and there was much animosity between the rednecks and the punk rockers; both sides were itching for a fight, and the cops were always there to bust some heads.
Urban Struggle: The Battle of The Cuckoo's Nest:
https://tinyurl.com/2vpkdmve
Clockwork Orange County:
https://tinyurl.com/5chwpep9
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 09:21 AM (kpS4V)
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Tried reading The Acts of King Arthur and His Noble Knights by John Steinbeck.
It was published after his death.
Could not finish it. Did not like the story. He needed an editor. I will donate it to the library.
It was published after his death.
Could not finish it. Did not like the story. He needed an editor. I will donate it to the library.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 09:21 AM (u82oZ)
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I read a real novel this past week, albeit a kids novel. "A Nose for Trouble" by Jim Kjelgaard. Most of Kjelgaard's book are about a boy and his dog, but this one is a bit different: this one is about a MAN and his dog! And his horse, too.
The story is almost a kids version of "Walking Tall." A young man returns to his family home (a cabin in the woods outside a bustling town of 1200) and acquires a horse and a bloodhound. He quickly discovers a low-key war going on in the forest, between a newly-appointed game warden, and a poacher who is harvesting the wildlife on a near-industrial scale. Or hero joins on the side of the warden, and child friendly-action ensues. Surprisingly, there was a twist or two on the road to figuring out who the poacher master-mind was.
The story is almost a kids version of "Walking Tall." A young man returns to his family home (a cabin in the woods outside a bustling town of 1200) and acquires a horse and a bloodhound. He quickly discovers a low-key war going on in the forest, between a newly-appointed game warden, and a poacher who is harvesting the wildlife on a near-industrial scale. Or hero joins on the side of the warden, and child friendly-action ensues. Surprisingly, there was a twist or two on the road to figuring out who the poacher master-mind was.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:22 AM (Lhaco)
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Our Man is sort of a comedy, as if Get Smart were to be done as a black comedy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:14 AM (omVj0)
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Yes, and I also ordered a DVD of the film.
Greene's humor is less biting than Waugh's, but both do the English thing of piling minor plausible absurdities on top of each other to create an epic farce.
I enjoy it and employ it from time to time.
A few years ago I wrote out a treatment for a novel based on an Airman in Biden's military who was straight, but "identified" as gay because he got special treatment and it spiraled out of control and he was Airman of the Year for being a tranny. Meanwhile, back home everyone knows it's a crock. I LOL'd at times, but I was still in the service and since then the world has changed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:14 AM (omVj0)
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Yes, and I also ordered a DVD of the film.
Greene's humor is less biting than Waugh's, but both do the English thing of piling minor plausible absurdities on top of each other to create an epic farce.
I enjoy it and employ it from time to time.
A few years ago I wrote out a treatment for a novel based on an Airman in Biden's military who was straight, but "identified" as gay because he got special treatment and it spiraled out of control and he was Airman of the Year for being a tranny. Meanwhile, back home everyone knows it's a crock. I LOL'd at times, but I was still in the service and since then the world has changed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:23 AM (ZOv7s)
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Still trudging through James Rollins' "A Dragon of Black Glass". He's an excellent writer but it's like a second job (well, a side hustle; I'm retired).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 09:25 AM (kpS4V)
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Books with characters I hate? Hotel New Hampshire and The World According to Garp
The characters deserve all the bad things that happen to them especially the movies. Rob Lowe? Awful. Robin Williams? Hateful.
The characters deserve all the bad things that happen to them especially the movies. Rob Lowe? Awful. Robin Williams? Hateful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:25 AM (RIvkX)
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A little more musing on "A Nose For Trouble;" I may have become overly sensitive to these things, but I caught a whiff of propaganda in the book. Not subversive propaganda, but propaganda nonetheless. The story hit the reader over the head a couple of times with 'Don't poach. Hunt only what is in season. The game warden is there to protect wildlife for future generations.' It did fit into the story, which took place when game wardens were first imposed upon the backwoods hunters....And I think the story was a little bit autobiographical, since I think the author spent time as a forest ranger....
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:25 AM (Lhaco)
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One of the Weinsteins (Bret?) has been deriding physics as having become constipated by its obsession with string theory. He speaks of that often when he appears on podcasts.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Tv15w)
A number of academics have complained about this - both problems with reproducible findings and cockeyed theories having more to do with how the world should be and less with what actually is observable. This seems to be a problem not just in physics and mathematics, but also in economics, History, Medicine, and as far as I can tell, everything that has a school in a University, and gets external funding.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Tv15w)
A number of academics have complained about this - both problems with reproducible findings and cockeyed theories having more to do with how the world should be and less with what actually is observable. This seems to be a problem not just in physics and mathematics, but also in economics, History, Medicine, and as far as I can tell, everything that has a school in a University, and gets external funding.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (D7oie)
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Tried reading The Acts of King Arthur and His Noble Knights by John Steinbeck.
It was published after his death.
Could not finish it. Did not like the story. He needed an editor. I will donate it to the library.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025
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I love Steinbeck, but there are few authors who don't need an editor at some point. The story goes that Rex Stout would annually turn in his latest Nero Wolfe and it would need very little or no revision. Don't know how accurate that is. Some of his later books are weaker -- he was not a great puzzle plotter -- but they are all clear and readable, right up to and including the last one, published when he was something like eighty years old.
It was published after his death.
Could not finish it. Did not like the story. He needed an editor. I will donate it to the library.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025
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I love Steinbeck, but there are few authors who don't need an editor at some point. The story goes that Rex Stout would annually turn in his latest Nero Wolfe and it would need very little or no revision. Don't know how accurate that is. Some of his later books are weaker -- he was not a great puzzle plotter -- but they are all clear and readable, right up to and including the last one, published when he was something like eighty years old.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (omVj0)
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Of course, I've read Arthur stories as a kid. Strange thing that Arthurian Britain is the first stirrings after the fall of Rome, that individuals have rights, and laws should apply to all. It took root in England, but not as much on the continent. Of course, today's Britain....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:27 AM (0eaVi)
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Horowitz has written two sequels to Magpie Murders, both with a book within a book, and featuring Susan Ryland:
Moonflower Murders
Marble Hall Murders
Moonflower has also appeared on PBS. No doubt Marble Hall will, too.
Moonflower Murders
Marble Hall Murders
Moonflower has also appeared on PBS. No doubt Marble Hall will, too.
Posted by: Wethal at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (NufIr)
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Books with characters I hate? Hotel New Hampshire and The World According to Garp
The characters deserve all the bad things that happen to them especially the movies. Rob Lowe? Awful. Robin Williams? Hateful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025
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I couldn't finish New Hampshire or anything else I've tried by that author. Garp as a book was okay, but kind of bewildering. Though I read it a long long time ago, and might get more out of it now. Never saw the movie.
The characters deserve all the bad things that happen to them especially the movies. Rob Lowe? Awful. Robin Williams? Hateful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025
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I couldn't finish New Hampshire or anything else I've tried by that author. Garp as a book was okay, but kind of bewildering. Though I read it a long long time ago, and might get more out of it now. Never saw the movie.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (omVj0)
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Books with characters I hate? Hotel New Hampshire and The World According to Garp
The characters deserve all the bad things that happen to them especially the movies. Rob Lowe? Awful. Robin Williams? Hateful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Someone suggested that I see the Garp movie when it came out; "it must be funny if Robin Williams is in it." It wasn't. It was just disturbing.
The characters deserve all the bad things that happen to them especially the movies. Rob Lowe? Awful. Robin Williams? Hateful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Someone suggested that I see the Garp movie when it came out; "it must be funny if Robin Williams is in it." It wasn't. It was just disturbing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 09:29 AM (Vfq+S)
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I think I read (or at least read part of) "Once and Future King" back when I was a teen. I don't think I appreciated it at the time. Too messy and ugly. I was expecting Authur's story to be kinda glorious and triumphant, and instead it was the first time I encountered his evil girlfriend and evil son. It just...wasn't what I was looking for at the time.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:29 AM (Lhaco)
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I looked it up: Stout wrote his last Wolfe when he was eighty-eight.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:30 AM (omVj0)
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A number of academics have complained about this - both problems with reproducible findings and cockeyed theories having more to do with how the world should be and less with what actually is observable. This seems to be a problem not just in physics and mathematics, but also in economics, History, Medicine, and as far as I can tell, everything that has a school in a University, and gets external funding.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (D7oie)
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The solution to this is already being felt. Thanks to soaring tuitiion and a shortage of students, colleges are already starting to close. Siena College just shut its doors, which is the second college in Michigan to do so. Others are on the ropes. One of the easy ways to track this is to follow college football and see how many teams are disbanded as the school shuts down.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (D7oie)
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The solution to this is already being felt. Thanks to soaring tuitiion and a shortage of students, colleges are already starting to close. Siena College just shut its doors, which is the second college in Michigan to do so. Others are on the ropes. One of the easy ways to track this is to follow college football and see how many teams are disbanded as the school shuts down.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:30 AM (ZOv7s)
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I finished The Natural by Bernard Malamud and wow! Very ell written novel about baseball and society int he 1920s. Later a hit movie that I knew about but never watched. I get to the end of the novel (spoiler alert) and had to go to the interwebs to see ho the movie was structured because what I knew of the movie and how the book ends do not match at all. And I was right, the movie tacks on a happy ending that is not in the novel. The movie came out in '84 and Malamud was still alive. I wonder what he thought about the change.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:31 AM (+ViXu)
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Penny is super cute
On our walk yesterday the most vicious looking pittie pretty much flopped over in front of us and demanded belly scritches. Like many pitties she was sweet like sugar. It must be hard to walk a dog that demands scritches from strangers all the time.
On our walk yesterday the most vicious looking pittie pretty much flopped over in front of us and demanded belly scritches. Like many pitties she was sweet like sugar. It must be hard to walk a dog that demands scritches from strangers all the time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:33 AM (RIvkX)
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The story is almost a kids version of "Walking Tall." A young man returns to his family home (a cabin in the woods outside a bustling town of 1200) and acquires a horse and a bloodhound. He quickly discovers a low-key war going on in the forest, between a newly-appointed game warden, and a poacher who is harvesting the wildlife on a near-industrial scale. Or hero joins on the side of the warden, and child friendly-action ensues. Surprisingly, there was a twist or two on the road to figuring out who the poacher master-mind was.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:22 AM (Lhaco)
I'll read it if the poacher is caught, tied down in the forest and the animals rend him asunder.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:22 AM (Lhaco)
I'll read it if the poacher is caught, tied down in the forest and the animals rend him asunder.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 09:33 AM (g8Ew8)
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Perfessor,
Thanks for mentioning that omnibus edition of The Once and Future King. I just ordered that 1958 hardcover version. I've become increasingly interested in the King Arthur stories but hadn't read the Once and Future King. The caution about the unusual wording ( many of the reviews talk about the same thing) actually attracts me. Guess I'm a word nerd. No surprise.
Thanks for mentioning that omnibus edition of The Once and Future King. I just ordered that 1958 hardcover version. I've become increasingly interested in the King Arthur stories but hadn't read the Once and Future King. The caution about the unusual wording ( many of the reviews talk about the same thing) actually attracts me. Guess I'm a word nerd. No surprise.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 09:36 AM (yTvNw)
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Never saw the movie.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (omVj0)
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Please save yourself. Don't let me sacrifice my eyes in vain!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (omVj0)
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Please save yourself. Don't let me sacrifice my eyes in vain!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:36 AM (RIvkX)
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Haven't gotten around to Malamud's The Natural yet -- it's doing hard time with a zillion others in The Amazing Colossal To-Be-Read Pile -- but The Assistant is awfully good, as are a lot of the short stories I've read by him. His novel The Fixer is supposed to be terrific, but that's still in the stack too; that one was filmed by John Frankenheimer with Alan Bates in the lead, but I don't think that movie's available these days.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:36 AM (q3u5l)
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I finished the first read of The Intelligent Gardener by Steve Solomon. Steve is a long time gardener who started the Oregon business, Territorial Seeds.
He discusses one of the biggest problems gardeners face, which is depleted and worn out soils. Soils lose minerals that are taken up by the plants, and removed when they are harvested. His argument is that it is important to understand how soils become depleted, and to have good numbers from soil analysis to aid in remineralizing. He agrees that compost is very nice, but it rarely has enough of what the soil nees, and suggests adding in phosphorous, sulfur, boron and calcium (among other nutrients) at need.
I do think it works since my plants are doing well, and the invasive brown snails now have quite thick and healthy shells, but even better, the plants aren't being ravaged as badly as they had been in the past.
I have yet to get my soil analyzed as suggested, but I need to do mine and my niece's to figure out what will work best.
He discusses one of the biggest problems gardeners face, which is depleted and worn out soils. Soils lose minerals that are taken up by the plants, and removed when they are harvested. His argument is that it is important to understand how soils become depleted, and to have good numbers from soil analysis to aid in remineralizing. He agrees that compost is very nice, but it rarely has enough of what the soil nees, and suggests adding in phosphorous, sulfur, boron and calcium (among other nutrients) at need.
I do think it works since my plants are doing well, and the invasive brown snails now have quite thick and healthy shells, but even better, the plants aren't being ravaged as badly as they had been in the past.
I have yet to get my soil analyzed as suggested, but I need to do mine and my niece's to figure out what will work best.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (D7oie)
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Someone suggested that I see the Garp movie when it came out; "it must be funny if Robin Williams is in it." It wasn't. It was just disturbing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 09:29 AM (Vfq+S)
Williams played an excellent villain in Kill Smoochie. It's a fun movie.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 09:29 AM (Vfq+S)
Williams played an excellent villain in Kill Smoochie. It's a fun movie.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (g8Ew8)
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Hey, I have an idea. I'll make a character wear a bear costume. Why? No idea. To fvck with audience, I guess.
-John Irving
-John Irving
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (RIvkX)
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The movie came out in '84 and Malamud was still alive. I wonder what he thought about the change.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:31 AM (+ViXu)
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I think I own it on DVD. It was one of those situations where I wanted one movie, and buying the compilation was cheaper. I've never seen it. Should I?
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:31 AM (+ViXu)
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I think I own it on DVD. It was one of those situations where I wanted one movie, and buying the compilation was cheaper. I've never seen it. Should I?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:38 AM (ZOv7s)
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Parke Godwin wrote The Firelord series, an Arthurian series, both Arthur's interactions with Guinevere, and Guinevere's struggles to maintain the kingdom after Arthur's death
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:40 AM (D7oie)
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I really liked the Matthew Hughes book Baldemar, set in an era of Dying Earth where magic is the underlying basis for reality.
The book is linked short stories following Baldemar's life from his streetwise beginnings through the rest of his time as a wizard's henchman. Well written, with well drawn characters, it was fun to read.
Matthew Hughes gets his wizard character models, those with overwhelming pride and self-regard, usually undone by lack of competence, from his days as a speechwriter for Canadien leaders in government and corporations.
I plan to buy other books by Hughes set in that far future.
The book is linked short stories following Baldemar's life from his streetwise beginnings through the rest of his time as a wizard's henchman. Well written, with well drawn characters, it was fun to read.
Matthew Hughes gets his wizard character models, those with overwhelming pride and self-regard, usually undone by lack of competence, from his days as a speechwriter for Canadien leaders in government and corporations.
I plan to buy other books by Hughes set in that far future.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 09:41 AM (u82oZ)
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Irving had a thing about bears, if memory serves (his first novel was called Setting Free the Bears). Been a long time since I read him. Liked Garp well enough when it came out, fell off him within the next few novels, and haven't read any since A Prayer for Owen Meany; I can barely remember much about the ones I've read.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:41 AM (q3u5l)
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Garp as a book was okay, but kind of bewildering. Though I read it a long long time ago, and might get more out of it now. Never saw the movie.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (omVj0)
My 20-year-old self was pretty interested in John Irving books. My current self, not even a little bit. I know too much about the world now, and the perversions in his book are just too sickening.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (omVj0)
My 20-year-old self was pretty interested in John Irving books. My current self, not even a little bit. I know too much about the world now, and the perversions in his book are just too sickening.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2025 09:41 AM (h7ZuX)
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I gave up on the science fiction magazines a very long time ago. How long? The term "woke" wasn't used yet, but I was picturing editorial meetings consisting of nothing but depressed white women wearing black turtlenecks.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2025 09:41 AM (kuWOS)
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Hey, I have an idea. I'll make a character wear a bear costume. Why? No idea. To fvck with audience, I guess.
-John Irving
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (RIvkX)
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There is a clear line separating the eccentric from the absurd.
-John Irving
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (RIvkX)
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There is a clear line separating the eccentric from the absurd.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:41 AM (ZOv7s)
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I made decent progress on "Don Quixote" this week. I think of it as a 17th century version of a Looney Tunes cartoon: make a parody of a classic genre and insert characters who get the ever-living hell knocked out of them every 30 seconds, to great comedic effect. I keep waiting for Sancho Panza to be hit by a falling anvil.
Posted by: PabloD at July 13, 2025 09:42 AM (o2Win)
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I finished Butler by Selena Zito. I love her work, have since the first report I saw on flyover country. This is about the attempted assassination of course and also the campaign. She talks a lot about those with a sense of place and the placeless. There are some stories that show how rooted these people can be in an area and it's a good reminder for us. We tend to think folks should just pack up and leave if an area goes bad. It's a quick read and interesting.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 13, 2025 09:42 AM (AcTAo)
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People told me years ago that Chandler was a master with metaphors. That he is, but some fly past me because I am not well versed in 1940s lingo.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 09:17 AM (p/isN)
Finger a crib sheet to get hip with the lingo. Don't snap your cap because You don't have the dope. It takes moxie to be on the beam. I'm not gonna bust your chops because you're out of the loop. It doesn't take lettuce to get what you're looking for.
Put your peepers on this:
https://tinyurl.com/4tpfkcyb
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 09:17 AM (p/isN)
Finger a crib sheet to get hip with the lingo. Don't snap your cap because You don't have the dope. It takes moxie to be on the beam. I'm not gonna bust your chops because you're out of the loop. It doesn't take lettuce to get what you're looking for.
Put your peepers on this:
https://tinyurl.com/4tpfkcyb
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:42 AM (0eaVi)
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Morning, all. I tried to be here at 9, but overslept and then had to make tea and toast.
Someone suggested that I see the Garp movie when it came out; "it must be funny if Robin Williams is in it." It wasn't. It was just disturbing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 09:29 AM (Vfq+S)
Unless you were an Irving fan, I think the only reason anyone went to see that piece of junk was for the blowjob-castration scene.
Someone suggested that I see the Garp movie when it came out; "it must be funny if Robin Williams is in it." It wasn't. It was just disturbing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 09:29 AM (Vfq+S)
Unless you were an Irving fan, I think the only reason anyone went to see that piece of junk was for the blowjob-castration scene.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:42 AM (Dg2sF)
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This week was 'Finished Books Recommended By Morons' week!
Just closed the book Rogue Protocol, book #2 of the fantastic Murderbot series by Martha Wells. Also just discovered that I'm finished with book #3, Memories of Ice, A Tale of the Mazalan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson that I downloaded for free from Archive.org.
Just closed the book Rogue Protocol, book #2 of the fantastic Murderbot series by Martha Wells. Also just discovered that I'm finished with book #3, Memories of Ice, A Tale of the Mazalan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson that I downloaded for free from Archive.org.
Posted by: p0indexterous at July 13, 2025 09:44 AM (PbHjC)
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Things get quite a bit darker in the second part, "The Queen of Air and Darkness." Here we see Arthur begin to gather his Knights of the Round Table.
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"No round table! Only when he ate with his family it was a round table. And when guests came - knights came - they would open it up and put in the leaves. No, it's King Arthur of the Oval Table!" - 2000 Year Old Man
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"No round table! Only when he ate with his family it was a round table. And when guests came - knights came - they would open it up and put in the leaves. No, it's King Arthur of the Oval Table!" - 2000 Year Old Man
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 09:44 AM (Kjgs1)
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Interesting in the tcm review of anothet christopher reeve film the one with jane seymour they noted how he was up for john lithgows role
But i was already allergic to john irvings quirks a priori which cider house rules confirmed
My paisan humberto fontova points out how the Companys dealing with the Castto brothers could have been a comedy
They asked the barnard educated daughter of a bacardi exec to vouch for the brothers one of whom was alleged to be 'light in the loafers' she said totes they arent communists (punchline she married him) and the Company didnt catch on till the nationalizations of property
But i was already allergic to john irvings quirks a priori which cider house rules confirmed
My paisan humberto fontova points out how the Companys dealing with the Castto brothers could have been a comedy
They asked the barnard educated daughter of a bacardi exec to vouch for the brothers one of whom was alleged to be 'light in the loafers' she said totes they arent communists (punchline she married him) and the Company didnt catch on till the nationalizations of property
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 09:45 AM (bXbFr)
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to add to the physics discussion, a couple of months ago I read "Escape From Shadow Physics: by Adam Kay.. A moron recommendation that I will second.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:45 AM (+ViXu)
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I wasn't in the mood for deep, contemplative reading this week. That still leaves a lot to choose from. I read hobby books on drawing and painting as well as flintlock rifles. Just pleasant stuff.
Then I got out my copy of Kipling's "Just So Stories". They are a delight. They really should be read out loud as if you were telling children a bedtime story with all those vocal nuances and different voices for characters, including the narrator. The words on the page are fun but reading them aloud is even better.
Then I got out my copy of Kipling's "Just So Stories". They are a delight. They really should be read out loud as if you were telling children a bedtime story with all those vocal nuances and different voices for characters, including the narrator. The words on the page are fun but reading them aloud is even better.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 09:45 AM (yTvNw)
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Davies wrote a sort of meta-study called The Wealth Explosion, The Nature and Origins of Modernity which tries to chart the changes that were necessary to bring about the innovation and adoption of technology to create human flourishing - with European examples held against Song China, and non-flourishing societies in Africa and the Americas. (Private credit and weak governments seem to be essential)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:18 AM (D7oie)
Would you say The Black Plague and clover as animal feed had something to do with it?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:18 AM (D7oie)
Would you say The Black Plague and clover as animal feed had something to do with it?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:46 AM (0eaVi)
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Bernard Cornwell's re-imagining of the Arthur legends were very entertaining. The Winter King, Enemy of God and Excalibur are told from the point of view of a warrior turned Christian monk who is sworn to Arthur.
Posted by: huerfano at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (n2swS)
75
It might have been a comedy except for the results
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (bXbFr)
76
On the comic-reading front, I read a French comic called "Castle in the Stars" Book 1. It's a little bit steampunky, taking place in 1869, but with a bit more hot-air-balloon technology, and the prospect of discovering some made-up physics. It stars a French kid, whose mother dies in a hot-air-balloon experiment. (The book was written this century, so of course it is the mom who is the super-driven scientist...) The mother's journal is discovered in Bavaria, where the kid and his father are invited to continue the mother's work. There they get caught up in some political machinations between Bavaria and Prussia...
Artistically, the book is pretty unique, at least compared to the other comics on my shelf. The character designs are generally realistic, with a bit of a 'Studio Ghibli' flare, with the exception of one kid who has cartoon face. (I could do without that character) The linework is light and unobtrusive, and the coloring appears to be watercolor, giving the book a washed-out or pastel feel. It's a nice way to depict the 19th Century German setting. And the setting is the most interesting part of the comic, at least to me. I expect to continue the series.
Artistically, the book is pretty unique, at least compared to the other comics on my shelf. The character designs are generally realistic, with a bit of a 'Studio Ghibli' flare, with the exception of one kid who has cartoon face. (I could do without that character) The linework is light and unobtrusive, and the coloring appears to be watercolor, giving the book a washed-out or pastel feel. It's a nice way to depict the 19th Century German setting. And the setting is the most interesting part of the comic, at least to me. I expect to continue the series.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (Lhaco)
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As I sit here drinking a glass of Radner on a warm Munich afternoon,
I wonder, whatever happened to the reputation of Saul Bellow.
It's like he's been erased from literature.
"Humboldt's Gift" is one of the few novels I've read that actually seems both wise and great.
Others may disagree, but they are wrong.
I wonder, whatever happened to the reputation of Saul Bellow.
It's like he's been erased from literature.
"Humboldt's Gift" is one of the few novels I've read that actually seems both wise and great.
Others may disagree, but they are wrong.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (ZO/35)
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Finished A.H Lloyd's A Man of Destiny. Liked it and intend to get the rest soon. If I hadn't known it was a retelling of Star Wars I may have missed the parallels, so it definitely stands on its own merit. Only critique is that it could use another pass by an editor. Missing, or doubled, or just plain wrong, words aren't common but they show up enough to effect immersion.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (lFFaq)
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I blame Dungeons & Dragons for a lot of a current moral decay. No, not the demonic panic from the 70s, but the idea that ones "alignment" aka religion is merely a personal choice. Lawful Good and Lawful Evil are both equally valid.
Indeed, the choice of alignment is secondary to how well you follow it. Thus: a Chaotic Evil person will be judged not on their actions per se, but on whether they were sufficiently Chaotic and Evil. A lot of people seem to adhere to this idea. Recall Obama saying that "sin" was something out of alignment with his values.
Call it moral relativism if you want, but this noting that there is no one, universal standard of goodness and evil is what gives legitimacy to a lot of weird stuff, and it has become increasingly pervasive in the popular culture.
Indeed, the choice of alignment is secondary to how well you follow it. Thus: a Chaotic Evil person will be judged not on their actions per se, but on whether they were sufficiently Chaotic and Evil. A lot of people seem to adhere to this idea. Recall Obama saying that "sin" was something out of alignment with his values.
Call it moral relativism if you want, but this noting that there is no one, universal standard of goodness and evil is what gives legitimacy to a lot of weird stuff, and it has become increasingly pervasive in the popular culture.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
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Nothing to recommend this week. I read a couple of books but they aren't even worth a negative review. One was about ancient Egypt, and did not contain one single solitary thing I hadn't already known. Which means either I've become an expert on ancient Egypt or the book is very superficial. My money's on the latter. The other was a fantasy novel my wife recommended, which I bounced off but may tackle again.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025 09:50 AM (78a2H)
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I recently came across a book that might be of interest to some of the Papists in the Horde. The Liturgical Rosary 2nd ed, was published in 2024 by Arouca Press. This little book has meditations for the Rosary organized by hour of the day, liturgical year, and feast days of the saints. Each set consists of 15 meditations (for 15 decades); so, about an hour if you were to pray a complete set.
The meditations were compiled by a little group of semi-schismatic religious sisters (they acknowledge the primacy of the Pope, but will only celebrate the Tridentine Latin Mass), the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This group was specifically identified as a "potentially dangerous radical traditional Catholic" organization in the, now infamous, FBI document targeting tradition Catholics from a few years ago. If you want to make the Commies in the Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI cry, this might be a book of interest to you.
The meditations were compiled by a little group of semi-schismatic religious sisters (they acknowledge the primacy of the Pope, but will only celebrate the Tridentine Latin Mass), the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This group was specifically identified as a "potentially dangerous radical traditional Catholic" organization in the, now infamous, FBI document targeting tradition Catholics from a few years ago. If you want to make the Commies in the Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI cry, this might be a book of interest to you.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 09:50 AM (pJWtt)
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Does anyone else here look at the flood of self-pub material available (from the reader's point of view and not the writer's) and think of Yogi Berra's line about how nobody goes there any more because it's too crowded?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:20 AM (q3u5l)
And I think a lot of it just isn't good. Why? Maybe because people write a book, then just plop it out. No beta readers, no proof readers, no editing. Once you pay for a story that's full of errors from an unknown author, you'll be more wary of putting out hard earned money to risk it again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:20 AM (q3u5l)
And I think a lot of it just isn't good. Why? Maybe because people write a book, then just plop it out. No beta readers, no proof readers, no editing. Once you pay for a story that's full of errors from an unknown author, you'll be more wary of putting out hard earned money to risk it again.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:50 AM (0eaVi)
83
What's a magazine?
Posted by: People under 20 at July 13, 2025 09:50 AM (XQo4F)
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I kind of figured that the short story magazines had been dead since the 90's, with maybe a few genres getting revived thanks to e-zines and whatnot. I read a "Savage Realms" e-zine for sword and sorcery stories, which only launched a few years ago.
Yeah, following any sort of publishing industry is pretty bleak, and has been for a while.
Yeah, following any sort of publishing industry is pretty bleak, and has been for a while.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 09:51 AM (Lhaco)
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Finished A.H Lloyd's A Man of Destiny. Liked it and intend to get the rest soon. If I hadn't known it was a retelling of Star Wars I may have missed the parallels, so it definitely stands on its own merit. Only critique is that it could use another pass by an editor. Missing, or doubled, or just plain wrong, words aren't common but they show up enough to effect immersion.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (lFFaq)
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Glad you liked it! Yes, the edits are done and I'm planning on a revised edition with new cover art as well. Chateau Lloyd is in a state of chaos at the moment and I don't see that changing until school starts and the lovable scamps get out of the house for a few hours a day and have to go to bed on time.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (lFFaq)
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Glad you liked it! Yes, the edits are done and I'm planning on a revised edition with new cover art as well. Chateau Lloyd is in a state of chaos at the moment and I don't see that changing until school starts and the lovable scamps get out of the house for a few hours a day and have to go to bed on time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)
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@82 argggg ... if only we had a preview option. At least I have close-tags in my nic, so the entire blog didn't go Italican!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 09:51 AM (pJWtt)
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I second the recommendation of Once and Future King. I've always had an interest in Arthurian literature as well as the history of Britain at the time of the 'real' Arthur.
White actually wrote a fifth book, The Book of Merlyn, which, so far as I know, her never been included with the other four, but published as a stand-alone. It concerns Arthur, on the eve of his last battle, not wanting to fight, not wanting to live and believing his entire life has been wasted. It's pretty cynical an dark (White wrote it either at the dawn of, or during, WW2; I can't remember).
Another book of his is a translation of a mediaeval bestiary, called The Book of Beasts. It's really not for everyone, but has translation is funny and easygoing and his love of animals and the outdoors shines through.
White actually wrote a fifth book, The Book of Merlyn, which, so far as I know, her never been included with the other four, but published as a stand-alone. It concerns Arthur, on the eve of his last battle, not wanting to fight, not wanting to live and believing his entire life has been wasted. It's pretty cynical an dark (White wrote it either at the dawn of, or during, WW2; I can't remember).
Another book of his is a translation of a mediaeval bestiary, called The Book of Beasts. It's really not for everyone, but has translation is funny and easygoing and his love of animals and the outdoors shines through.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:53 AM (Dg2sF)
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Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:12 AM (q3u5l)
And that novel is? I don't remember you getting it plugged in a book thread, though I may have forgotten, so please tell us about it.
And that novel is? I don't remember you getting it plugged in a book thread, though I may have forgotten, so please tell us about it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 09:53 AM (lFFaq)
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Gary Buechler (aka Nerdrotic)'s autobiography, Waiting for Nerdrotic: From Prison to Youtube went up for presale yesterday during the Friday Night Tights podcast. 1000 books sold during the course of the podcast where the gang discussed James Gunn's Superman. So one way for unknown authors to sell their book is to have 1.2 million Youtube subscribers.
https://tinyurl.com/yoeu444x
https://tinyurl.com/yoeu444x
Posted by: The Dixie Flatline (long time lurker) at July 13, 2025 09:53 AM (RNK1K)
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Which book about ancient egypt so we can ignore it, there have been enough discoveries to updare our font of knowledge
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 09:54 AM (bXbFr)
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This week I've started another Jack Reacher novel, Bad Luck and Trouble, from 2006 or so. This one is told in the third person -- I guess Child jumps around from first to third in different books. Reacher so far has been a lot of fun to read about.
Earlier this week I tried a collection of short stories by Alice Munro, The Moons of Jupiter. She writes well and all that, but her stories are very literary, not compelling to me. Maybe I'm just not bright enough to get the point of them. Some are true New Yorker stories . . . meaning they seem to begin at some point, wander a while, and then end when the author gets tired.
I have two early Elvis Cole mysteries by Robert Crais on the TBR pile as well.
Earlier this week I tried a collection of short stories by Alice Munro, The Moons of Jupiter. She writes well and all that, but her stories are very literary, not compelling to me. Maybe I'm just not bright enough to get the point of them. Some are true New Yorker stories . . . meaning they seem to begin at some point, wander a while, and then end when the author gets tired.
I have two early Elvis Cole mysteries by Robert Crais on the TBR pile as well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:55 AM (omVj0)
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The story goes that Rex Stout would annually turn in his latest Nero Wolfe and it would need very little or no revision.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (omVj0)
I've never thought of this before, but Rex Stout (real name?) wrote a character, Nero Wolf, who's portrayed as very large and sedentary. Was Rex, stout?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (omVj0)
I've never thought of this before, but Rex Stout (real name?) wrote a character, Nero Wolf, who's portrayed as very large and sedentary. Was Rex, stout?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:55 AM (0eaVi)
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6 One of the Weinsteins (Bret?) has been deriding physics as having become constipated by its obsession with string theory. He speaks of that often when he appears on podcasts.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Tv15w)
So many research dollars (from taxes of course) wasted on an untestable and almost useless theory over multiple decades. I say almost since some useful math has come from at least one of the string theories. People seem to think that because the math works, then it works in reality, or in other words math=physics. Which is not the case.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Tv15w)
So many research dollars (from taxes of course) wasted on an untestable and almost useless theory over multiple decades. I say almost since some useful math has come from at least one of the string theories. People seem to think that because the math works, then it works in reality, or in other words math=physics. Which is not the case.
Posted by: Farquad at July 13, 2025 09:56 AM (yqgaV)
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The meditations were compiled by a little group of semi-schismatic religious sisters (they acknowledge the primacy of the Pope, but will only celebrate the Tridentine Latin Mass), the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This group was specifically identified as a "potentially dangerous radical traditional Catholic" organization in the, now infamous, FBI document targeting tradition Catholics from a few years ago.
Now, that's funny - about an hour from my house, that order has a convent and school. I've been to Mass there several times and it's worth the drive.
Now, that's funny - about an hour from my house, that order has a convent and school. I've been to Mass there several times and it's worth the drive.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (Dg2sF)
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And I think a lot of it just isn't good. Why? Maybe because people write a book, then just plop it out. No beta readers, no proof readers, no editing. Once you pay for a story that's full of errors from an unknown author, you'll be more wary of putting out hard earned money to risk it again.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025
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Which is what I tell authors who think they don't need an editor: "Somebody may buy your first book. But if it isn't professional-looking (even aside from telling a good story), they'll be turned off. They won't buy your second -- and they'll tell others who won't buy your first."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025
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Which is what I tell authors who think they don't need an editor: "Somebody may buy your first book. But if it isn't professional-looking (even aside from telling a good story), they'll be turned off. They won't buy your second -- and they'll tell others who won't buy your first."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)
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Bellow seemed to be a tad more conservative in his later years if memory serves. Maybe that has something to do with the erasure.
Of course, he's not exactly erased -- I think Library of America has done most of his stuff, and most of it is still easily available on Kindle and in paperback. But he's been dead 20 years now and these days anything before last Tuesday is old news and who cares. Not sure if there's some standard gap in time between death and rediscovery by the reading public, if that happens at all.
Of course, he's not exactly erased -- I think Library of America has done most of his stuff, and most of it is still easily available on Kindle and in paperback. But he's been dead 20 years now and these days anything before last Tuesday is old news and who cares. Not sure if there's some standard gap in time between death and rediscovery by the reading public, if that happens at all.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (q3u5l)
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78 Finished A.H Lloyd's A Man of Destiny. Liked it and intend to get the rest soon. If I hadn't known it was a retelling of Star Wars I may have missed the parallels, so it definitely stands on its own merit. Only critique is that it could use another pass by an editor. Missing, or doubled, or just plain wrong, words aren't common but they show up enough to effect immersion.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (lFFaq)
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I read Lloyd’s Long Live Death about the Spanish Civil War. Seems to be a very good historical summary of the period but similarly could use another few rounds of editing.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 09:47 AM (lFFaq)
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I read Lloyd’s Long Live Death about the Spanish Civil War. Seems to be a very good historical summary of the period but similarly could use another few rounds of editing.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (YxG/6)
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No real new reading for me this week. I've been flipping through a few books, but nothing worth talking about. I am moving slowly along with my own book, and can almost see my way through to the end of the first draft. I'd like to have it out for Christmas, but I don't think that will happen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:59 AM (Dg2sF)
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Nice to hear "The Assistant" is a good read because read because I read The Natural in the Library of America volume that also includes The Assistant and a bunch of short stories. I've just gotten started on The Assistant. The Fixer is a great read. When I bought it I thought it was going to be about a bookie or some such. It's not.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:59 AM (+ViXu)
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Would you say The Black Plague and clover as animal feed had something to do with it?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:46 AM (0eaVi)
No. The ability to move wealth in the form of credit and money had more to do with it, and the fact that there was both limited government in both geographical and social reach, as well as competing laws and courts.
Remember, the growth of Lydia, Babylon and Hattusha as super powers had more to do with credit and banking than with the change from Millet to Wheat, and the near industrial revolution in the 1100s Song Dynasty had more to do with acceptance for exchange in trade and clearing in the secondary market in warehouse receipts than the technical innovations themselves.
The true flowering in the 12th century Europe came with the renewal of banking and trade routes. Oddly, Cipolla discusses banking in other books, as does Joel Mokyr.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 09:46 AM (0eaVi)
No. The ability to move wealth in the form of credit and money had more to do with it, and the fact that there was both limited government in both geographical and social reach, as well as competing laws and courts.
Remember, the growth of Lydia, Babylon and Hattusha as super powers had more to do with credit and banking than with the change from Millet to Wheat, and the near industrial revolution in the 1100s Song Dynasty had more to do with acceptance for exchange in trade and clearing in the secondary market in warehouse receipts than the technical innovations themselves.
The true flowering in the 12th century Europe came with the renewal of banking and trade routes. Oddly, Cipolla discusses banking in other books, as does Joel Mokyr.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 10:00 AM (D7oie)
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Thanks for the book thread, Perfessor! Glad to see your library is well guarded by the kittehs.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 13, 2025 10:02 AM (kB9dk)
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I got an unwelcome surprise this week. The current issue of Backwoodsman magazine is the last. I've enjoyed it for many years. Apparently the cost of materials, postage and the declining market for periodicals generally got to be too much. They may continue with a digital only version, a trend I've been noticing for other magazines.
My magazine subscription are all for niche subjects: woodcarving and whittling, black powder firearms and history, and fly tying. I hope they can survive. I keep the back issues and peruse them all the time. I can't be the only aging curmudgeon who doesn't like relying on ever changing technology that will quickly render digital media out of date and unsupported.
My magazine subscription are all for niche subjects: woodcarving and whittling, black powder firearms and history, and fly tying. I hope they can survive. I keep the back issues and peruse them all the time. I can't be the only aging curmudgeon who doesn't like relying on ever changing technology that will quickly render digital media out of date and unsupported.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 10:04 AM (yTvNw)
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Which is what I tell authors who think they don't need an editor: "Somebody may buy your first book. But if it isn't professional-looking (even aside from telling a good story), they'll be turned off. They won't buy your second -- and they'll tell others who won't buy your first."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)
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I have test readers, do a hard-copy edit and of late I read the author's proof aloud to my wife. Having it in actual book format makes the mistakes pop more than a manuscript.
Long Live Death has been revised twice since initial publication, and all the military and political technical stuff plus Spanish makes it a real challenge. It needs a real publisher to break through, but I'm noticing even Osprey books have typos in them these days.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)
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I have test readers, do a hard-copy edit and of late I read the author's proof aloud to my wife. Having it in actual book format makes the mistakes pop more than a manuscript.
Long Live Death has been revised twice since initial publication, and all the military and political technical stuff plus Spanish makes it a real challenge. It needs a real publisher to break through, but I'm noticing even Osprey books have typos in them these days.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:05 AM (ZOv7s)
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Good morning Book People and thank you, Perfessor, for yet another wonderful Book Thread.
I'm currently reading Padre Pio and You by Mary O'Regan. Although my father had a devotion to Padre Pio, I knew next to nothing about him. It's an interesting and easy read.
As for books in with unlikeable characters, a long while back I read Ian McEwan's Saturday and could not stand a single character. Naturally, I didn't like the bad guys who were threatening the main character's family, but I also didn't like the main character or his family. Maybe the whole thing was too deep for me.
I'm currently reading Padre Pio and You by Mary O'Regan. Although my father had a devotion to Padre Pio, I knew next to nothing about him. It's an interesting and easy read.
As for books in with unlikeable characters, a long while back I read Ian McEwan's Saturday and could not stand a single character. Naturally, I didn't like the bad guys who were threatening the main character's family, but I also didn't like the main character or his family. Maybe the whole thing was too deep for me.
Posted by: KatieFloyd at July 13, 2025 10:05 AM (ZXhoe)
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The true flowering in the 12th century Europe came with the renewal of banking and trade routes. Oddly, Cipolla discusses banking in other books, as does Joel Mokyr.
Posted by: Kindltot
You just reminded me to go back to Fernand Braudel's three volume series on civilization and capitalism. It has been on my TBR pile for ages.
Posted by: Kindltot
You just reminded me to go back to Fernand Braudel's three volume series on civilization and capitalism. It has been on my TBR pile for ages.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 10:05 AM (Vfq+S)
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Saturday was mostly valuable for its prophetic elements but yes those characters were distasteful
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:06 AM (bXbFr)
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@92 --
Rex Stout was his true name.
He seemed to have been chunky, judging from the photos of him that I have seen.
His standout feature was his beard. Look for his photos and see for yourself.
Rex Stout was his true name.
He seemed to have been chunky, judging from the photos of him that I have seen.
His standout feature was his beard. Look for his photos and see for yourself.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 10:06 AM (o/fn0)
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The death of (legacy) short fiction started with the bookstores. When they stopped stocking the magazines, the magazines couldn't survive on subscriptions alone and a lot of them folded. The survivors, alas, tended to the woke side of things. Magazines are expensive to produce because of paper and shipping. The good news is with electronic versions things like length are less of an issue, and there are several electronic short story markets that have been doing well. Not enough to replace the pulp magazines yet. The other innovation is publishers like Raconteur Press, which produce themed anthologies of short stories (full disclosure, they published one of my short stories in Alien Family Values) The great thing about the anthologies is you get a bunch of stories on the same theme, instead of (with the pulps) one story you actually wanted and fifteen that bore you. Oh, and RacPress is definitely NOT woke. They just care about good stories.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 13, 2025 10:07 AM (Sk/Ut)
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The meditations were compiled by a little group of semi-schismatic religious sisters (they acknowledge the primacy of the Pope, but will only celebrate the Tridentine Latin Mass), the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This group was specifically identified as a "potentially dangerous radical traditional Catholic" organization in the, now infamous, FBI document targeting tradition Catholics from a few years ago.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 09:50 AM (pJWtt)
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Now, that's funny - about an hour from my house, that order has a convent and school. I've been to Mass there several times and it's worth the drive.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (Dg2sF)
I suspect that the sisters might have quite the library. Loreto Publications specifically acknowledges getting the original Douay-Rheims Bible with ALL of Rev. Haydock's commentary from them when Loreto Publications did their reprint. (I highly recommend that Bible, by the way.)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 09:50 AM (pJWtt)
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Now, that's funny - about an hour from my house, that order has a convent and school. I've been to Mass there several times and it's worth the drive.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (Dg2sF)
I suspect that the sisters might have quite the library. Loreto Publications specifically acknowledges getting the original Douay-Rheims Bible with ALL of Rev. Haydock's commentary from them when Loreto Publications did their reprint. (I highly recommend that Bible, by the way.)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 10:07 AM (pJWtt)
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Call it moral relativism if you want, but this noting that there is no one, universal standard of goodness and evil is what gives legitimacy to a lot of weird stuff, and it has become increasingly pervasive in the popular culture.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
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Nah, it’s mainly the result of a hyper individuality that has developed along the path of the Protestant reformation. Which itself was mainly a societal response to the invention of the printing press.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
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Nah, it’s mainly the result of a hyper individuality that has developed along the path of the Protestant reformation. Which itself was mainly a societal response to the invention of the printing press.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 13, 2025 10:07 AM (YxG/6)
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Still reading Peter Straub's Mr. X -- enjoying it, but for some reason I don't find myself wanting to sit down with it for hours and hours to get to the end, so it's a couple of chapters at the end of the day, and it's a long book.
Gave a quick read to George Pelecanos' novella "Owning Up" yesterday. Not bad.
If anyone's interested, the novel I put up umpteen years ago is called Doorways, and you'll find it at
www.amazon.com/Doorways-Tony-Rabig-ebook/dp/B01BA0EFHC
Don't forget the bicarbonate. If you like it, peachy keen and thanks. If you don't like it, please keep that news to yourself -- I have such a delicate ego...
Gave a quick read to George Pelecanos' novella "Owning Up" yesterday. Not bad.
If anyone's interested, the novel I put up umpteen years ago is called Doorways, and you'll find it at
www.amazon.com/Doorways-Tony-Rabig-ebook/dp/B01BA0EFHC
Don't forget the bicarbonate. If you like it, peachy keen and thanks. If you don't like it, please keep that news to yourself -- I have such a delicate ego...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (q3u5l)
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I blame Dungeons & Dragons for a lot of a current moral decay. No, not the demonic panic from the 70s, but the idea that ones "alignment" aka religion is merely a personal choice. Lawful Good and Lawful Evil are both equally valid.
Indeed, the choice of alignment is secondary to how well you follow it. Thus: a Chaotic Evil person will be judged not on their actions per se, but on whether they were sufficiently Chaotic and Evil. A lot of people seem to adhere to this idea. Recall Obama saying that "sin" was something out of alignment with his values.
Call it moral relativism if you want, but this noting that there is no one, universal standard of goodness and evil is what gives legitimacy to a lot of weird stuff, and it has become increasingly pervasive in the popular culture.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
This philosophy is as old as mankind itself. D&D is just small dot in a world that has been practicing it to this day.
Indeed, the choice of alignment is secondary to how well you follow it. Thus: a Chaotic Evil person will be judged not on their actions per se, but on whether they were sufficiently Chaotic and Evil. A lot of people seem to adhere to this idea. Recall Obama saying that "sin" was something out of alignment with his values.
Call it moral relativism if you want, but this noting that there is no one, universal standard of goodness and evil is what gives legitimacy to a lot of weird stuff, and it has become increasingly pervasive in the popular culture.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
This philosophy is as old as mankind itself. D&D is just small dot in a world that has been practicing it to this day.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (g8Ew8)
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I shall have to try this Cipolla dude. Years ago I bought Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel, and still have it. It was fascinating to me at the time, and parts of it still are (info about large animals, for instance), but my worldview has grown beyond his.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (omVj0)
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My magazine subscription are all for niche subjects: woodcarving and whittling, black powder firearms and history, and fly tying. I hope they can survive. I keep the back issues and peruse them all the time. I can't be the only aging curmudgeon who doesn't like relying on ever changing technology that will quickly render digital media out of date and unsupported.
Posted by: JTB
Two of mine have ended in the past couple of years as well, specialized magazines with quality paper and pictures. One was due to the death of the pubisher/editor, the other due to not being able to make money printing a magazine.
Posted by: JTB
Two of mine have ended in the past couple of years as well, specialized magazines with quality paper and pictures. One was due to the death of the pubisher/editor, the other due to not being able to make money printing a magazine.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (Vfq+S)
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Witness by Sandra Brown is a thrilling tale of mystery, lies, intrigue, and a secret conspiracy too horrible to contemplate. The story begins with a horrible auto accident in the rain, a series of escapes to avoid not only the evil doers but those on the side of law and order who seek only justice, and one main character's amnesia from the wreck. Great character development and a twisting, tangled plot that unravels slowly and with surprises around each bend. Secrets are kept until the last page and then - ta da! - still not revealed. Brown writes great tales of thrills and suspense that keep you hanging on to the end. Recommended.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (kB9dk)
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Picked up a lot of great sounding recs this week- thanks, Perfesser and Horde!
Gave a new to me author another try, to be fair, but have concluded that, for me at least, she is just a poor writer, dull and plodding.
Her topics are as far as I can see, overlooked Girl Bosses of history and women reclaiming their power. This old lady is so over that.
I have a new Zadie Smith that looks good- a historical novel about fraud, called The Fraud, actually.
And speaking of first contact, I am planning a re-read of Michael Flynn's "Eifleheim".
Gave a new to me author another try, to be fair, but have concluded that, for me at least, she is just a poor writer, dull and plodding.
Her topics are as far as I can see, overlooked Girl Bosses of history and women reclaiming their power. This old lady is so over that.
I have a new Zadie Smith that looks good- a historical novel about fraud, called The Fraud, actually.
And speaking of first contact, I am planning a re-read of Michael Flynn's "Eifleheim".
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (f+FmA)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
I would really like them to make Armor into a movie. I understand that it has a Shamalamadingdong twist but I think some innovative screenwriter can make it work.
I would really like them to make Armor into a movie. I understand that it has a Shamalamadingdong twist but I think some innovative screenwriter can make it work.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
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Arroz has no clue as to why publishing is failing. Short version is three generations of students never learned/were never taught how to read. And that's by design. People who can't read are far more easily led down the primrose path to communism.
Posted by: 0007 at July 13, 2025 10:11 AM (ZrNSG)
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I'll read it if the poacher is caught, tied down in the forest and the animals rend him asunder.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 09:33 AM (g8Ew
Nothing quite so graphic, although the good guys win in the end. Of interest for this website, in the middle of the book there is a judge who lets his own opinions dictate his rulings. This almost causes the game warden to loose his cool, and after that, he tends to issue warnings (with his fists) rather than bring offenders into court for actual citations...
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 09:33 AM (g8Ew
Nothing quite so graphic, although the good guys win in the end. Of interest for this website, in the middle of the book there is a judge who lets his own opinions dictate his rulings. This almost causes the game warden to loose his cool, and after that, he tends to issue warnings (with his fists) rather than bring offenders into court for actual citations...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:11 AM (Lhaco)
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If anyone's interested, the novel I put up umpteen years ago is called Doorways, and you'll find it at
www.amazon.com/Doorways-Tony-Rabig-ebook/dp/B01BA0EFHC
Don't forget the bicarbonate. If you like it, peachy keen and thanks. If you don't like it, please keep that news to yourself -- I have such a delicate ego...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025
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It looks fascinating, JSG, and I may get a Kindle one of these days. One question about the Amazon listing: What does "DRM-free" mean?
www.amazon.com/Doorways-Tony-Rabig-ebook/dp/B01BA0EFHC
Don't forget the bicarbonate. If you like it, peachy keen and thanks. If you don't like it, please keep that news to yourself -- I have such a delicate ego...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025
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It looks fascinating, JSG, and I may get a Kindle one of these days. One question about the Amazon listing: What does "DRM-free" mean?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:12 AM (omVj0)
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I have test readers, do a hard-copy edit and of late I read the author's proof aloud to my wife. Having it in actual book format makes the mistakes pop more than a manuscript.
Long Live Death has been revised twice since initial publication, and all the military and political technical stuff plus Spanish makes it a real challenge. It needs a real publisher to break through, but I'm noticing even Osprey books have typos in them these days.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:05 AM (ZOv7s)
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If you need another set of eyes for proofreading, let me know.
Long Live Death has been revised twice since initial publication, and all the military and political technical stuff plus Spanish makes it a real challenge. It needs a real publisher to break through, but I'm noticing even Osprey books have typos in them these days.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:05 AM (ZOv7s)
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If you need another set of eyes for proofreading, let me know.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 13, 2025 10:13 AM (YxG/6)
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Which is what I tell authors who think they don't need an editor: "Somebody may buy your first book. But if it isn't professional-looking (even aside from telling a good story), they'll be turned off. They won't buy your second -- and they'll tell others who won't buy your first."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)
That's one reason I haven't published anything. Of course, part of it is fear my stuff's no good. And, self-pub isn't "free" no matter what anyone tells you. Try doing everything yourself, you'll still need to put out money to buy programs that will help you do the work. You format and typeset it yourself, you create a cover, you buy an ISBN (maybe), release it on Amazon or Ingram Spark... and sell five to ten copies in a year. Yeah, ain't got the money for that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)
That's one reason I haven't published anything. Of course, part of it is fear my stuff's no good. And, self-pub isn't "free" no matter what anyone tells you. Try doing everything yourself, you'll still need to put out money to buy programs that will help you do the work. You format and typeset it yourself, you create a cover, you buy an ISBN (maybe), release it on Amazon or Ingram Spark... and sell five to ten copies in a year. Yeah, ain't got the money for that.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:13 AM (0eaVi)
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Two of mine have ended in the past couple of years as well, specialized magazines with quality paper and pictures. One was due to the death of the pubisher/editor, the other due to not being able to make money printing a magazine.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (Vfq+S)
My long time favorite Taproot, folded due to the latter. They were ad-free, which was lovely but not sustainable.
Still, they lasted for over a decade. I wouldn't trade anything for my collection.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (Vfq+S)
My long time favorite Taproot, folded due to the latter. They were ad-free, which was lovely but not sustainable.
Still, they lasted for over a decade. I wouldn't trade anything for my collection.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:14 AM (f+FmA)
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I'm a fan of books dealing with the Arthurian legends. TOAFK to me is the cornerstone for them. It is also the one I enjoyed the least. Readable, but not enjoyable.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (W/lyH)
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63 Hey, I have an idea. I'll make a character wear a bear costume. Why? No idea. To fvck with audience, I guess.
-John Irving
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (RIvkX)
Nick Cage's agent: "Nicky, I just found your next movie!"
-John Irving
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 09:37 AM (RIvkX)
Nick Cage's agent: "Nicky, I just found your next movie!"
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (Lhaco)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
I would really like them to make Armor into a movie. I understand that it has a Shamalamadingdong twist but I think some innovative screenwriter can make it work.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025
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My list is too long to cite, but Larry Niven's Ringworld is first.
And I think Ellery Queen's Siamese Twin Mystery would be a good bet. It has not only good dying message puzzles, but Ellery and his father are caught in a household atop a mountain -- not by the cliche snowstorm, but by a forest fire that is steadily working its way up the mountain. Built-in suspense.
I would really like them to make Armor into a movie. I understand that it has a Shamalamadingdong twist but I think some innovative screenwriter can make it work.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025
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My list is too long to cite, but Larry Niven's Ringworld is first.
And I think Ellery Queen's Siamese Twin Mystery would be a good bet. It has not only good dying message puzzles, but Ellery and his father are caught in a household atop a mountain -- not by the cliche snowstorm, but by a forest fire that is steadily working its way up the mountain. Built-in suspense.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (omVj0)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
I would really like them to make Armor into a movie. I understand that it has a Shamalamadingdong twist but I think some innovative screenwriter can make it work.
Posted by: polynikes
Lucky 666 deserves to be made into a movie. The longest aerial dogfight in history, and two medals of honor plus many more medals to the crew, on an incredibly daring solo mission in a cursed aircraft. I cannot believe that someone hasn't made a movie of this. Does no one here know Clint Eastwood's phone number?
I would really like them to make Armor into a movie. I understand that it has a Shamalamadingdong twist but I think some innovative screenwriter can make it work.
Posted by: polynikes
Lucky 666 deserves to be made into a movie. The longest aerial dogfight in history, and two medals of honor plus many more medals to the crew, on an incredibly daring solo mission in a cursed aircraft. I cannot believe that someone hasn't made a movie of this. Does no one here know Clint Eastwood's phone number?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (Vfq+S)
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No real new reading for me this week. I've been flipping through a few books, but nothing worth talking about. I am moving slowly along with my own book, and can almost see my way through to the end of the first draft. I'd like to have it out for Christmas, but I don't think that will happen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:59 AM (Dg2sF)
Another Theda Bara, or something different?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 09:59 AM (Dg2sF)
Another Theda Bara, or something different?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:16 AM (0eaVi)
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I think I recommended it before but because of the current Middle East unrest and the worldwide drone warfare, Steven Pressfield’s The Profession is better now than when it came out in 2011.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:16 AM (VofaG)
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DRM free means I didn't slap digital rights management on it -- so if you want to read it on multiple devices, or suck it into Calibre to convert to some other format, or email a copy of the file to a friend, you should be able to do that and you'll get no complaints from Amazon or me. There's a paperback too, but it costs more.
I think a lot of stuff from Tor Books comes DRM free as well.
I think a lot of stuff from Tor Books comes DRM free as well.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:16 AM (q3u5l)
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If you need another set of eyes for proofreading, let me know.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 13, 2025 10:13 AM (YxG/6)
How does one become a test reader for Horde authors? That might be something I would be good at and would be a contribution to the reading world.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 13, 2025 10:13 AM (YxG/6)
How does one become a test reader for Horde authors? That might be something I would be good at and would be a contribution to the reading world.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (f+FmA)
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Speaking of the latter, I've resumed watching the Type 56 podcast, and there is quite a bit of discussion about the French phase of the Vietnam conflict, which Greene describes. The podcast confirms what I found when writing Walls of Men that the Chicoms were effectively fighting a proxy war, and the Viet Minh were just along for the ride.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:08 AM (ZOv7s)
I didn't learn about the French phase of the conflict until I took military history in college. It's amazing what little you get taught in elementary/high school and how ignorant people are of history (or many other subjects) due to that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 09:08 AM (ZOv7s)
I didn't learn about the French phase of the conflict until I took military history in college. It's amazing what little you get taught in elementary/high school and how ignorant people are of history (or many other subjects) due to that.
Posted by: Farquad at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (yqgaV)
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Just Some Guy, just bought Doorways for the Kindle. It will be a while before I get to it because the TBR pile on the kindle is even bigger than the physical pile in my spare room. It sounds really interesting and I love a good time travel story.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 10:19 AM (+ViXu)
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The Saul Bellow novel "Herzog" (not Whitey, Royals/Cardinals fans of a certain age) was assigned reading in the Advanced English class I had in my freshman year of college.
Having become hooked on comic books at that time, I didn't read it. Same for most of the other books on that class (I tried to read "Great Expectations" in one weekend to catch up. Hah!)
I should have failed but scraped out with a D.
That was when I realized that I liked fiction and not literature.
Having become hooked on comic books at that time, I didn't read it. Same for most of the other books on that class (I tried to read "Great Expectations" in one weekend to catch up. Hah!)
I should have failed but scraped out with a D.
That was when I realized that I liked fiction and not literature.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 10:20 AM (p/isN)
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I was at the dentist this week. She and her husband have three kids, 6 or 7, 5, and 3 years old. I told her about the Brambly Hedge books and they were a huge hit. A few weeks ago I gave her a hardcover copy of :The Lost Words" by Robert Macfarlane with those wonderful Jackie Morris watercolor illustrations. She showed me a photo of them sitting around a small table, big brother reading it to his little sisters, showing them the words and how they are spelled and how the illustrations work with the words. It was kind of her to do that and she was smiling as she described them. I was thrilled that my suggestion worked. I'm still smiling when I think about it.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 10:20 AM (yTvNw)
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You just reminded me to go back to Fernand Braudel's three volume series on civilization and capitalism. It has been on my TBR pile for ages.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
________
Was blessed with a conservative college history prof who assigned Capitalism and Material Life, 1400 - 1800, which turned me on to Braudel. Highly recommend.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Was blessed with a conservative college history prof who assigned Capitalism and Material Life, 1400 - 1800, which turned me on to Braudel. Highly recommend.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 13, 2025 10:21 AM (p16cu)
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For some light reading, I came across The Road to Damascus by John Ringo and Linda Evans. Published in 2014 by Baen, it is a novel involving a Bolo. For those unfamiliar with the Bolo (a mechanical creation of SF author, Keith Laumer), they are what we would now term AI super-tanks.
The demarcations between the authors seemed to me to be pretty obvious. I suspect that Ringo wrote all the portions of the novel from the perspective of the Bolo, and Evans wrote the portions of the novel mainly involving the wife of the Bolo commander. Nowhere in the novel do we ever get any background on how the wife became a tactical genius fighting a planetary government developing into a bunch of corrupt Commies; the wife character is such an obvious Mary Sue.
The best parts of the novel were the peeks into the Bolo's thoughts. I thought the main female character made a number of stupid decisions based upon emotion rather than logic.
The book is too long: over 600 pages. However, it is a pretty quick read. Rating = 3.0/5.0
The demarcations between the authors seemed to me to be pretty obvious. I suspect that Ringo wrote all the portions of the novel from the perspective of the Bolo, and Evans wrote the portions of the novel mainly involving the wife of the Bolo commander. Nowhere in the novel do we ever get any background on how the wife became a tactical genius fighting a planetary government developing into a bunch of corrupt Commies; the wife character is such an obvious Mary Sue.
The best parts of the novel were the peeks into the Bolo's thoughts. I thought the main female character made a number of stupid decisions based upon emotion rather than logic.
The book is too long: over 600 pages. However, it is a pretty quick read. Rating = 3.0/5.0
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 10:21 AM (pJWtt)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
We've been promised a Neuromancer movie since, what, the late 80s? It's probably a good thing that it didn't happen then because it would have sucked without the technology to do it right. Now that the technology exists, the cyberpunk phase has passed and no one would care.
We've been promised a Neuromancer movie since, what, the late 80s? It's probably a good thing that it didn't happen then because it would have sucked without the technology to do it right. Now that the technology exists, the cyberpunk phase has passed and no one would care.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 10:22 AM (/y8xj)
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I'm a fan of books dealing with the Arthurian legends. TOAFK to me is the cornerstone for them. It is also the one I enjoyed the least. Readable, but not enjoyable.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (W/lyH)
It's not great literature by any stretch of the imagination, but Catherine Christian's The Pendragon is pretty entertaining. It's told from the viewpoint of Bedevere, who is a boyhood friend of Arthur and one of his first knioghts. The story tries to set itself in the mid-sixth century and Merlin himself is no wizard, but a high-ranking Druid.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (W/lyH)
It's not great literature by any stretch of the imagination, but Catherine Christian's The Pendragon is pretty entertaining. It's told from the viewpoint of Bedevere, who is a boyhood friend of Arthur and one of his first knioghts. The story tries to set itself in the mid-sixth century and Merlin himself is no wizard, but a high-ranking Druid.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 10:23 AM (Dg2sF)
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All of gibson tales were poorly adapted in part because of the screenwriters as well as the technology
You woupd think the material lends itself to being transferred in screen
You woupd think the material lends itself to being transferred in screen
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (bXbFr)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
My own?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
My own?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (0eaVi)
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Another Theda Bara, or something different?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:16 AM (0eaVi)
Theda Bara. It's set in 1922 and she is looking into the murder of the director William Desmond Taylor (a true Hollywood mystery). It's the third in what I had originally envisioned as a trilogy. I'll keep writing, but I have no idea what my next book will be about.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:16 AM (0eaVi)
Theda Bara. It's set in 1922 and she is looking into the murder of the director William Desmond Taylor (a true Hollywood mystery). It's the third in what I had originally envisioned as a trilogy. I'll keep writing, but I have no idea what my next book will be about.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (Dg2sF)
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113 I shall have to try this Cipolla dude. Years ago I bought Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel, and still have it. It was fascinating to me at the time, and parts of it still are (info about large animals, for instance), but my worldview has grown beyond his.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (omVj0)
For about a decade now, I've felt that "Guns, Germs, and Steel" should be read side-by-side with Victor Davis Hanson's "Carnage and Culture." GGS has some neat observations, but it also has some massive blind-spots. (Not to mention a few conclusions that just feel wrong.) C&C helps explain away those blind spots, although it does occasionally feel repetative.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (omVj0)
For about a decade now, I've felt that "Guns, Germs, and Steel" should be read side-by-side with Victor Davis Hanson's "Carnage and Culture." GGS has some neat observations, but it also has some massive blind-spots. (Not to mention a few conclusions that just feel wrong.) C&C helps explain away those blind spots, although it does occasionally feel repetative.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (Lhaco)
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Now that the technology exists, the cyberpunk phase has passed and no one would care.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 10:22 AM (/y8xj)
Don’t tell me you like Mortal Engines?
( only cyberpunk movie I could think of)
Though Alita might be one. I wish they would do a sequel.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 10:22 AM (/y8xj)
Don’t tell me you like Mortal Engines?
( only cyberpunk movie I could think of)
Though Alita might be one. I wish they would do a sequel.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (VofaG)
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The book I want to see filmed is Mote In God's Eye, but . . .
There's a whole category of works that you just _know_ Hollywood would screw up, and Mote is one of them.
There's a whole category of works that you just _know_ Hollywood would screw up, and Mote is one of them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025 10:26 AM (78a2H)
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135 I was at the dentist this week. She and her husband have three kids, 6 or 7, 5, and 3 years old. I told her about the Brambly Hedge books and they were a huge hit. A few weeks ago I gave her a hardcover copy of :The Lost Words" by Robert Macfarlane with those wonderful Jackie Morris watercolor illustrations. She showed me a photo of them sitting around a small table, big brother reading it to his little sisters, showing them the words and how they are spelled and how the illustrations work with the words. It was kind of her to do that and she was smiling as she described them. I was thrilled that my suggestion worked. I'm still smiling when I think about it.
I was thinking about this recently. I do the same thing, recommending and loaning out books a LOT.
we're the new librarians, now that that position is filled with leftist blobs.
I was thinking about this recently. I do the same thing, recommending and loaning out books a LOT.
we're the new librarians, now that that position is filled with leftist blobs.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 13, 2025 10:26 AM (Pv3Rg)
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Some of it is charles stahelskis bailiwick (the guy behind john wick) with the futuristic noir landscapes
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:26 AM (bXbFr)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
This Perfect Day by Ira Levin. I cannot understand why this hasn't been made. The man wrote Rosemary's Baby ffs.
This Perfect Day by Ira Levin. I cannot understand why this hasn't been made. The man wrote Rosemary's Baby ffs.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2025 10:27 AM (RIvkX)
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Angel should make a film (animated) of Traveller by Richard Adams.
I LOVEDDDD that book! I was more into horses but now I love it for the history
I LOVEDDDD that book! I was more into horses but now I love it for the history
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 13, 2025 10:27 AM (Pv3Rg)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
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Darkness at Noon. But no major studio would touch it.
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Darkness at Noon. But no major studio would touch it.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 13, 2025 10:27 AM (p16cu)
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Good morning all.
I have been having trouble getting into so,ething after finishing the ,ast Pierce Brown book and awaiting Spenser no. 35 from ABe books($4. Hardcover, free shipping). I got Norah Roberts new book from the library Hidden Nature. I had stopped reading her years ago but likes her fantasy books so thought I'd try it. It starts out kind of depressing with a girl boss detective getting shot, dying at the hospital but being brought back to life. She wakes up determined not to lose any of her girl boss qualities.
Then the villains are introduced and they are white trash cultists(you can guess the denomination) and just hard to take.
Then there is an entire chapter on Thanksgiving dinner, what was to be served, everybody's role, and what all,the guests are bringing for dinner as a set up for a one paragraph event.
I gave up and returned the book.
I have been having trouble getting into so,ething after finishing the ,ast Pierce Brown book and awaiting Spenser no. 35 from ABe books($4. Hardcover, free shipping). I got Norah Roberts new book from the library Hidden Nature. I had stopped reading her years ago but likes her fantasy books so thought I'd try it. It starts out kind of depressing with a girl boss detective getting shot, dying at the hospital but being brought back to life. She wakes up determined not to lose any of her girl boss qualities.
Then the villains are introduced and they are white trash cultists(you can guess the denomination) and just hard to take.
Then there is an entire chapter on Thanksgiving dinner, what was to be served, everybody's role, and what all,the guests are bringing for dinner as a set up for a one paragraph event.
I gave up and returned the book.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 10:28 AM (t/2Uw)
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Mortal engines was more steam punk probably serving of a limited series to get people into the world building
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:28 AM (bXbFr)
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This Perfect Day by Ira Levin. I cannot understand why this hasn't been made. The man wrote Rosemary's Baby ffs.
San Franpsycho YES!!!
and now is the time for this book. it would be incredible and helpful for people to understand
San Franpsycho YES!!!
and now is the time for this book. it would be incredible and helpful for people to understand
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 13, 2025 10:28 AM (Pv3Rg)
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150 What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Imma keep saying Shardik/Maia
be a great Netflix series and who cares what they do with casting
Imma keep saying Shardik/Maia
be a great Netflix series and who cares what they do with casting
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 13, 2025 10:28 AM (Pv3Rg)
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If anyone's interested, the novel I put up umpteen years ago is called Doorways, and you'll find it at
www.amazon.com/Doorways-Tony-Rabig-ebook/dp/B01BA0EFHC
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (q3u5l)
Gulp! I bought a kindle version. No bicarb in the house. I'll read it later. And you're going to get a review.
www.amazon.com/Doorways-Tony-Rabig-ebook/dp/B01BA0EFHC
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (q3u5l)
Gulp! I bought a kindle version. No bicarb in the house. I'll read it later. And you're going to get a review.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:29 AM (0eaVi)
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many research dollars (from taxes of course) wasted on an untestable and almost useless theory over multiple decades. I say almost since some useful math has come from at least one of the string theories. People seem to think that because the math works, then it works in reality, or in other words math=physics. Which is not the case.
Posted by: Farquad at July 13, 2025 09:56 AM (yqgaV)
Yeh, a lot of speculative physics has become a.playground for mathematicians to get their mental masturbation riffs going. Practical usefulness has been left behind.
Posted by: Farquad at July 13, 2025 09:56 AM (yqgaV)
Yeh, a lot of speculative physics has become a.playground for mathematicians to get their mental masturbation riffs going. Practical usefulness has been left behind.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 10:30 AM (n4GiU)
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Mortal engines was more steam punk probably serving of a limited series to get people into the world building
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:28 AM (bXbFr)
Thanks I got my punks commingled . Carry on.
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:28 AM (bXbFr)
Thanks I got my punks commingled . Carry on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (VofaG)
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Guns, Germs, and Steel -- and most other works covering the topic of why Europe rose rather quickly to dominate the globe -- suffers from a common problem in that genre. It is trying to posit "a" cause.
The Europeans had different advantages over different groups across the globe. Against the Indians of the New World, they had metal weapons and armor, plus military command structures and government systems vastly more effective. If the leader of your warband is killed in a fight, the warband breaks up and goes home. If the captain of your company is killed, the senior lieutenant assumes command.
Note that this didn't help at all against the societies of East Asia. They knew all about org charts. European domination there had to wait until the tech advantage got extreme enough that relatively small forces could rout bigger armies.
Et cetera.
The Europeans had different advantages over different groups across the globe. Against the Indians of the New World, they had metal weapons and armor, plus military command structures and government systems vastly more effective. If the leader of your warband is killed in a fight, the warband breaks up and goes home. If the captain of your company is killed, the senior lieutenant assumes command.
Note that this didn't help at all against the societies of East Asia. They knew all about org charts. European domination there had to wait until the tech advantage got extreme enough that relatively small forces could rout bigger armies.
Et cetera.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (78a2H)
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Follett is the master at writing characters I don’t like, plots and story lines I grow to deeply dislike, and that I end up finishing out of spite, but are none the less very popular, and I’m the dummy that still buys them.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (cduTK)
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Nothing quite so graphic, although the good guys win in the end. Of interest for this website, in the middle of the book there is a judge who lets his own opinions dictate his rulings. This almost causes the game warden to loose his cool, and after that, he tends to issue warnings (with his fists) rather than bring offenders into court for actual citations...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:11 AM (Lhaco)
Dang! His cases appear before the SC?
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:11 AM (Lhaco)
Dang! His cases appear before the SC?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (0eaVi)
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I'll third This Perfect Day.
But,IIRC there's a major potion of the book that doesn't lend itself to movie making.
I suppose they could skip over that part.
But,IIRC there's a major potion of the book that doesn't lend itself to movie making.
I suppose they could skip over that part.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (ZO/35)
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OrangeEnt, you've probably hit one of the biggest reasons for the flood of awful self-pub. Money. Nobody's got the money to do a ton of advertising, pay artists, pay editors, for a book that they have to know up front won't sell enough any time soon to make expenses.
It is possible to do the whole thing practically free using freely available artwork and doing the formatting yourself, but that takes time. The truly lethal thing there is skipping the editor -- everyone thinks they turn out fairly clean copy, and it's never quite as clean as you think; I don't exclude myself from that. Didn't stop me from doing it on the cheap, because I don't have the bucks either.
And I don't like my own stuff as much as some other people do, which is one reason why I've not done a lot over the last several years.
It is possible to do the whole thing practically free using freely available artwork and doing the formatting yourself, but that takes time. The truly lethal thing there is skipping the editor -- everyone thinks they turn out fairly clean copy, and it's never quite as clean as you think; I don't exclude myself from that. Didn't stop me from doing it on the cheap, because I don't have the bucks either.
And I don't like my own stuff as much as some other people do, which is one reason why I've not done a lot over the last several years.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (q3u5l)
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How does one become a test reader for Horde authors? That might be something I would be good at and would be a contribution to the reading world.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (f+FmA)
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Email the authors and ask to be included. Pretty simple.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (f+FmA)
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Email the authors and ask to be included. Pretty simple.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:33 AM (ZOv7s)
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Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Love some of the older church and sect names.
One of my local parishes was the Church of His Most Precious Blood.
Love some of the older church and sect names.
One of my local parishes was the Church of His Most Precious Blood.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 13, 2025 10:33 AM (n4GiU)
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I would love to see Red Rising by Pierce Brown made into a movie and I am not alone. He has a huge fan base that keeps suggesting actors for the roles. Liam Hemsworth seems to be the most popular choice for the lead.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 10:34 AM (t/2Uw)
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I’m looking up all these books to movie suggestions. That’s the best review and recommendation I think you can give a book.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:34 AM (VofaG)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
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My own?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025
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My modesty (which generally is the size of a mustard seed) prevented me from suggesting my own stuff. But I do have a strong visual imagination, and I love action scenes, suspense -- not something I've found in a lot of fantasy -- and funny dialog (ditto).
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
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My own?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025
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My modesty (which generally is the size of a mustard seed) prevented me from suggesting my own stuff. But I do have a strong visual imagination, and I love action scenes, suspense -- not something I've found in a lot of fantasy -- and funny dialog (ditto).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:35 AM (omVj0)
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Per a recommendation from my DiL, started " The Thursday Murder Club" by Richard Osman. About a third of the way in and finding the characters very endearing. I understand the series of novels is quite popular and is getting a movie treatment starring Helen Mirren, Pierce Brosnan and Ben Kingsley.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 10:36 AM (lJ0H4)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
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Lord of the Rings.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
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Lord of the Rings.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:37 AM (ZOv7s)
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And I think Ellery Queen's Siamese Twin Mystery would be a good bet. It has not only good dying message puzzles, but Ellery and his father are caught in a household atop a mountain -- not by the cliche snowstorm, but by a forest fire that is steadily working its way up the mountain. Built-in suspense.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (omVj0)
Reminds me. I watched Ellery Queen: Don't Look Behind You on YT last week. Peter Lawford as EQ? Ok, maybe as an older one. But he seemed rather preoccupied by a female. Harry Morgan as Inspector Queen? Ok, but they're too close together in age, so they made IQ his uncle, not father. And maybe not even because the characters mention EQ's English accent and they riff off "is he or isn't he related?" Eh, it wasn't bad.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:15 AM (omVj0)
Reminds me. I watched Ellery Queen: Don't Look Behind You on YT last week. Peter Lawford as EQ? Ok, maybe as an older one. But he seemed rather preoccupied by a female. Harry Morgan as Inspector Queen? Ok, but they're too close together in age, so they made IQ his uncle, not father. And maybe not even because the characters mention EQ's English accent and they riff off "is he or isn't he related?" Eh, it wasn't bad.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:37 AM (0eaVi)
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This past week I tried to get back into Peter Watson's "The Great Divide," a book that looks into the differences between how the new world developed differently than the old world. After reading about the excessive amount of human sacrifice in the late-era new world cultures, the book jumped back to Europe, and talked about why Europe ended up so different. He parroted the explanation offered by Rodney Stark (and others) that Christianity was an essential pre-requisite for modern science. The idea of the clockwork universe, the assumption that God made the universe and wants us to understand it...
Part of that reasoning is that other cultures (Islamic, Chinese, etc.) had such a different set of basic assumptions that taking the western approach would have been impossible. It made me realize I've never really delved into the mindset of those other cultures. The history, yeah, that's fascinating. But truly understanding the mindset...Not really...
Part of that reasoning is that other cultures (Islamic, Chinese, etc.) had such a different set of basic assumptions that taking the western approach would have been impossible. It made me realize I've never really delved into the mindset of those other cultures. The history, yeah, that's fascinating. But truly understanding the mindset...Not really...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:38 AM (Lhaco)
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How does one become a test reader for Horde authors? That might be something I would be good at and would be a contribution to the reading world.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (f+FmA)
Easy! Join A Literary Horde!!
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (f+FmA)
Easy! Join A Literary Horde!!
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:39 AM (0eaVi)
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145 The book I want to see filmed is Mote In God's Eye, but . . .
There's a whole category of works that you just _know_ Hollywood would screw up, and Mote is one of them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025
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And Niven & Pournelle's (plus Steven Barnes) The Legacy of Heorot. If ever there was a novel that could jumpstart a new Aliens-like franchise . . . Though they'd have to retitle it. Nobody would know what "Heorot" was. I didn't when I bought the book.
There's a whole category of works that you just _know_ Hollywood would screw up, and Mote is one of them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025
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And Niven & Pournelle's (plus Steven Barnes) The Legacy of Heorot. If ever there was a novel that could jumpstart a new Aliens-like franchise . . . Though they'd have to retitle it. Nobody would know what "Heorot" was. I didn't when I bought the book.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:39 AM (omVj0)
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@117
>>What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Anything by Piers Anthony, The first Thomas Covenant Chronicles, Any number of Gabriel Garcia Marquez books.
The problem is that while the technology exists to make these movies, other than maybe Nolan or Cameron, there are no directors, writers and more importantly actors left that could make them good.
>>What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Anything by Piers Anthony, The first Thomas Covenant Chronicles, Any number of Gabriel Garcia Marquez books.
The problem is that while the technology exists to make these movies, other than maybe Nolan or Cameron, there are no directors, writers and more importantly actors left that could make them good.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2025 10:39 AM (XV/Pl)
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Books I'd like to see filmed (if they were done faithfully)?
Jeez, where to start? Silverberg's The Book of Skulls (William Friedkin was supposed to be doing this one, but it never happened, dammit). Zelazny's Isle of the Dead. Don Robertson's Mystical Union (probably unfilmable, though). William Goldman's Boys and Girls Together. Leiber's Our Lady of Darkness. On and on and on.
Jeez, where to start? Silverberg's The Book of Skulls (William Friedkin was supposed to be doing this one, but it never happened, dammit). Zelazny's Isle of the Dead. Don Robertson's Mystical Union (probably unfilmable, though). William Goldman's Boys and Girls Together. Leiber's Our Lady of Darkness. On and on and on.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:40 AM (q3u5l)
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That would be interesting casting with the before and after effect like the first avenger
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 13, 2025 10:40 AM (bXbFr)
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Read Permissionless Innovation: The Continuing Case for Comprehensive Technological Freedom this week (again). TRex
Ah! Is that the one where dashing young stable boy Bob Toadvine is initially considered the suspect in the murder of his employer Lord Marmaduke Pendragon, but is ultimately saved through the love and determination of Pendragon's daughter, Fanny, who discovers that the Vicar did it in a rage over Pendragon's use of ketchup on jellied eels?
Or am I thinking of something else?
Ah! Is that the one where dashing young stable boy Bob Toadvine is initially considered the suspect in the murder of his employer Lord Marmaduke Pendragon, but is ultimately saved through the love and determination of Pendragon's daughter, Fanny, who discovers that the Vicar did it in a rage over Pendragon's use of ketchup on jellied eels?
Or am I thinking of something else?
Posted by: Paco at July 13, 2025 10:40 AM (mADJX)
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The Europeans had different advantages over different groups across the globe.
Et cetera.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (78a2H)
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The one that few of the historians want to talk about is God. You'll get some grudging acknowledgement of the Black Robes working over Canada and the Great Lakes, Spanish missions, etc., but they want to reduce all cause and effect to impersonal, secular materialist causes.
That's changing a little as Christianity's decline in Europe in bringing society to the brink of collapse, which is why you get books like Dominion.
For the most part, though, they say it's tech and stuff.
Et cetera.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025 10:31 AM (78a2H)
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The one that few of the historians want to talk about is God. You'll get some grudging acknowledgement of the Black Robes working over Canada and the Great Lakes, Spanish missions, etc., but they want to reduce all cause and effect to impersonal, secular materialist causes.
That's changing a little as Christianity's decline in Europe in bringing society to the brink of collapse, which is why you get books like Dominion.
For the most part, though, they say it's tech and stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)
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Just want to say before people leave at the end of the thread, thanks to anyone purchasing Doorways; hope you won't feel like you've wasted the three bucks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:42 AM (q3u5l)
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I just read the synopsis of This Perfect Day.
It does sound like it would make a great movie.
A similar scenario movie except it’s Aliens controlling the earth is Captive State.
It does sound like it would make a great movie.
A similar scenario movie except it’s Aliens controlling the earth is Captive State.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:43 AM (VofaG)
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A faithful movie adaptation of Neuromancer would be very bizarre. Best watched under the influence of your favorite intoxicant.
It's also, coincidentally, the origin of my nic.
It's also, coincidentally, the origin of my nic.
Posted by: The Dixie Flatline (long time lurker) at July 13, 2025 10:44 AM (RNK1K)
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Theda Bara. It's set in 1922 and she is looking into the murder of the director William Desmond Taylor (a true Hollywood mystery). It's the third in what I had originally envisioned as a trilogy. I'll keep writing, but I have no idea what my next book will be about.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (Dg2sF)
You're writing and publishing, that's what counts. Far ahead of those of us with manuscripts laying around collecting dust.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 10:25 AM (Dg2sF)
You're writing and publishing, that's what counts. Far ahead of those of us with manuscripts laying around collecting dust.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 10:44 AM (0eaVi)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)
Black Robe was an excellent movie. One of the best if you like that genre. They didn’t sugar coat anything.
Black Robe was an excellent movie. One of the best if you like that genre. They didn’t sugar coat anything.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:44 AM (VofaG)
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Reminds me. I watched Ellery Queen: Don't Look Behind You on YT last week. Peter Lawford as EQ? Ok, maybe as an older one. But he seemed rather preoccupied by a female. Harry Morgan as Inspector Queen? Ok, but they're too close together in age, so they made IQ his uncle, not father. And maybe not even because the characters mention EQ's English accent and they riff off "is he or isn't he related?" Eh, it wasn't bad.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025
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It was the most expensive EQ movie made up to that time, and they chose a good novel as the basis, an early* serial killer story. But the casting was way off. Around 2000 I suggested on some forum that a new, faithful film of it could be done with David Duchovny as Ellery, John Mahoney as the Inspector, and Christopher Plummer as Dr. Cazalis. My concept had the advantage that all of them, then, were alive and were the right ages to play the characters.
* EQ's was not the first such serial killer story, though they did not use that term in 1947. I'd guess maybe The Lodger was the first? And Philip MacDonald's Murder Gone Mad might qualify.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025
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It was the most expensive EQ movie made up to that time, and they chose a good novel as the basis, an early* serial killer story. But the casting was way off. Around 2000 I suggested on some forum that a new, faithful film of it could be done with David Duchovny as Ellery, John Mahoney as the Inspector, and Christopher Plummer as Dr. Cazalis. My concept had the advantage that all of them, then, were alive and were the right ages to play the characters.
* EQ's was not the first such serial killer story, though they did not use that term in 1947. I'd guess maybe The Lodger was the first? And Philip MacDonald's Murder Gone Mad might qualify.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:45 AM (omVj0)
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Pendragon's daughter, Fanny, who discovers that the Vicar did it in a rage over Pendragon's use of ketchup on jellied eels?
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Kinky
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 10:45 AM (g8Ew8)
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Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2025 10:39 AM (XV/Pl)
And yet Hollywood keeps making the same movie over and over again.
And yet Hollywood keeps making the same movie over and over again.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:46 AM (VofaG)
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Don’t tell me you like Mortal Engines?
( only cyberpunk movie I could think of)
Though Alita might be one. I wish they would do a sequel.
I have not seen either although I have heard good things about the latter.
( only cyberpunk movie I could think of)
Though Alita might be one. I wish they would do a sequel.
I have not seen either although I have heard good things about the latter.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 10:46 AM (/y8xj)
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Part of that reasoning is that other cultures (Islamic, Chinese, etc.) had such a different set of basic assumptions that taking the western approach would have been impossible. It made me realize I've never really delved into the mindset of those other cultures. The history, yeah, that's fascinating. But truly understanding the mindset...Not really...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:38 AM (Lhaco)
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This view was predominant a century ago. China in particular had the population and resources to dominate Europe, but not the mental tools to do anything other than sit where they were.
Islam provided the impetus for conquest, but it's greatest gains came because the West was weak and divided (and they were using captured tech). When the Europeans banded together (The Crusades, Vienna, Lepanto), Islam recoiled.
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:38 AM (Lhaco)
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This view was predominant a century ago. China in particular had the population and resources to dominate Europe, but not the mental tools to do anything other than sit where they were.
Islam provided the impetus for conquest, but it's greatest gains came because the West was weak and divided (and they were using captured tech). When the Europeans banded together (The Crusades, Vienna, Lepanto), Islam recoiled.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:46 AM (ZOv7s)
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Well, time to go to Mass. Thanks again, Perfesser!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 13, 2025 10:46 AM (ZOv7s)
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What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
The Thicket, by Joe R. Lansdale. Great adventure, great characters.
*Just noticed on amazon that it actually has been made into a movie, exclusive on Tubi. I don't have Tubi. Maybe I will give Tubi a try.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)
The Thicket, by Joe R. Lansdale. Great adventure, great characters.
*Just noticed on amazon that it actually has been made into a movie, exclusive on Tubi. I don't have Tubi. Maybe I will give Tubi a try.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2025 10:47 AM (h7ZuX)
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Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 10:46 AM (/y8xj)
As someone mentioned above, Mortal Engines was Steam Punk and not very good.
Alita Battle Angel is one of my most watched movies.
As someone mentioned above, Mortal Engines was Steam Punk and not very good.
Alita Battle Angel is one of my most watched movies.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:49 AM (VofaG)
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Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2025 10:47 AM (h7ZuX)
It’s got the dwarf Peter Dinklage starring. Is a dwarf a character in the book?
It’s got the dwarf Peter Dinklage starring. Is a dwarf a character in the book?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:50 AM (VofaG)
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179 ...hope you won't feel like you've wasted the three bucks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:42 AM (q3u5l)
If I did, it's no big deal. I've wasted three bucks at a time in a myriad of useless ways.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:42 AM (q3u5l)
If I did, it's no big deal. I've wasted three bucks at a time in a myriad of useless ways.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2025 10:52 AM (h7ZuX)
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OK, folks, if I don't step away, I won't get any writing done today and I want to get at least one page under my belt.
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 13, 2025 10:52 AM (Dg2sF)
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It would also be nice to see good film adaptations of more of Fredric Brown's suspense novels.
And there's so much good sf/mystery/horror fiction out there that a good anthology series a la Hitchcock Presents or Twilight Zone could go twenty years if they were done right. I don't expect to live to see that happen, but I can dream.
And there's so much good sf/mystery/horror fiction out there that a good anthology series a la Hitchcock Presents or Twilight Zone could go twenty years if they were done right. I don't expect to live to see that happen, but I can dream.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:52 AM (q3u5l)
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As a wise man once said, authenticity is the currency of the future.
As I have said, repeatedly, AI isn't.
As I have said, repeatedly, AI isn't.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 10:53 AM (vm8sq)
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>>What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
A Conan the Barbarian movie that actually does justice to Robert E Howard's originals. I'd also love a second crack at a Solomon Kane movie.
And maybe a Red Sonja movie that doesn't suck. They released a trailer for the upcoming Red Sonja movie and, well, it doesn't look good. Among other things, I think I saw a big yellow truck in this 'sword and sorcery' film...
A Conan the Barbarian movie that actually does justice to Robert E Howard's originals. I'd also love a second crack at a Solomon Kane movie.
And maybe a Red Sonja movie that doesn't suck. They released a trailer for the upcoming Red Sonja movie and, well, it doesn't look good. Among other things, I think I saw a big yellow truck in this 'sword and sorcery' film...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 13, 2025 10:54 AM (Lhaco)
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. . . David Duchovny as Ellery, John Mahoney as the Inspector . . .
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Has anyone ever noticed that some of the quiet scenes between Frasier and his father are reminiscent of scenes between Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector? I would never suggest Kelsey Grammer play Ellery, but the similarity is striking.
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Has anyone ever noticed that some of the quiet scenes between Frasier and his father are reminiscent of scenes between Ellery Queen and his father the Inspector? I would never suggest Kelsey Grammer play Ellery, but the similarity is striking.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:54 AM (omVj0)
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I'm about to step out to run some errands, folk. Thanks for a fascinating Book Thread, as always, and I'll check back to see what else has been discussed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 10:55 AM (omVj0)
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As I have said, repeatedly, AI isn't.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 10:53 AM (vm8sq)
AI is the new Excel.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 10:53 AM (vm8sq)
AI is the new Excel.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 10:56 AM (g8Ew8)
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(I tried to read "Great Expectations" in one weekend to catch up. Hah!)
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 10:20 AM (p/isN)
I am so sorry. No one should have to read that pile of crap.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 10:20 AM (p/isN)
I am so sorry. No one should have to read that pile of crap.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 10:57 AM (vm8sq)
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It’s got the dwarf Peter Dinklage starring. Is a dwarf a character in the book?
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:50 AM (VofaG)
Yes. A dwarf who is into astronomy. Another character is a former slave (IIRC), who is accompanied everywhere by a wild pig. Pig is independent enough not to be considered a pet, but really is kind of a pet.
And whores, and villains of all kinds, and a feckless young man who needs the previous two characters to help him defeat the latter.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:50 AM (VofaG)
Yes. A dwarf who is into astronomy. Another character is a former slave (IIRC), who is accompanied everywhere by a wild pig. Pig is independent enough not to be considered a pet, but really is kind of a pet.
And whores, and villains of all kinds, and a feckless young man who needs the previous two characters to help him defeat the latter.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 13, 2025 10:57 AM (h7ZuX)
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Saw the new Superman movie last night. Pretty good. I think it's noteworthy that both Doomcock and the reviewer at Tor.com liked it. That's broad support!
Nice use of classic Superman lore, lots and lots of callbacks to the Christopher Reeve movies. Including (be still my heart) the John Williams theme. All good.
You may ask, "is there Woke bullshit?" And the answer is that the director and/or writers tried to shove some in, but ultimately Superman was too strong for them. By which I mean that despite portraying Lex Luthor as a Muskesque tech baron, and some treating the question "is an alien from Krypton a citizen?" as something self-evidently wicked rather than a fascinating legal question, ultimately what allows Superman to come back from his lowest point and prevail is his American traditional family upbringing in flyover country.
Nice use of classic Superman lore, lots and lots of callbacks to the Christopher Reeve movies. Including (be still my heart) the John Williams theme. All good.
You may ask, "is there Woke bullshit?" And the answer is that the director and/or writers tried to shove some in, but ultimately Superman was too strong for them. By which I mean that despite portraying Lex Luthor as a Muskesque tech baron, and some treating the question "is an alien from Krypton a citizen?" as something self-evidently wicked rather than a fascinating legal question, ultimately what allows Superman to come back from his lowest point and prevail is his American traditional family upbringing in flyover country.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 13, 2025 10:58 AM (78a2H)
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It’s got the dwarf Peter Dinklage starring. Is a dwarf a character in the book?
He made a good giant in that one Thor flick.
He made a good giant in that one Thor flick.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 10:58 AM (/y8xj)
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On the topic of books with an entirely unlikable cast, Penhollow by Georgette Heyer is one of only two books by her that I hate and the cast of truly horrible people is the main reason. The other one is My Cousin Kate, and that is because the mystery part revolves around a psychopath and I don't like that sort of mystery.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 10:59 AM (lFFaq)
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203 Saw the new Superman movie last night. Pretty good. I think it's noteworthy that both Doomcock and the reviewer at Tor.com liked it. That's broad support!
I will see it myself eventually. AZ from heelvsbabyface is ripping it as I type. Nerdrotic was not impressed. I don't think TCD was crazy about it either. The regulars on Midnight's Edge dug it.
Just got to deconflict the work schedule but I will see it in theaters.
I will see it myself eventually. AZ from heelvsbabyface is ripping it as I type. Nerdrotic was not impressed. I don't think TCD was crazy about it either. The regulars on Midnight's Edge dug it.
Just got to deconflict the work schedule but I will see it in theaters.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 11:00 AM (vm8sq)
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neverenoughcaffiene-- there has to be an Apple specialty shop in Missoula with all the U of Montana kids there. Not an Apple dtore but a repair/sales shop.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at July 13, 2025 11:03 AM (iNp3L)
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I have a feeling the theater here will be packed for Superman next weekend.
I mean we have a Trump plus American flag, plus the Constitution mural on the side of the beer barn.
I would like to see Jetta Carleton's "The Moonflower Vine" as a movie, except they would make it a travesty.
I mean we have a Trump plus American flag, plus the Constitution mural on the side of the beer barn.
I would like to see Jetta Carleton's "The Moonflower Vine" as a movie, except they would make it a travesty.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 11:05 AM (f+FmA)
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More of Lawrence Block's Matt Scudders on film would be nice too. Ditto more Donald Westlake. I'd also like to see a better adaptation of Heinlein's The Puppet Masters; the one that came out couldn't touch the novel, even though Donald Sutherland was perfectly cast and made the whole thing watchable.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:06 AM (q3u5l)
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"they would make it a travesty."
So maybe just read it. It's a re-discovered classic.
So maybe just read it. It's a re-discovered classic.
Posted by: sal at July 13, 2025 11:07 AM (f+FmA)
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A number of academics have complained about this - both problems with reproducible findings and cockeyed theories having more to do with how the world should be and less with what actually is observable. This seems to be a problem not just in physics and mathematics, but also in economics, History, Medicine, and as far as I can tell, everything that has a school in a University, and gets external funding.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (D7oie)
25 years ago as a bright eyed history student I envisioned a world where history departments would seriously branch out here in the United States and have sections dedicated not just to U.S history but histories in all areas of the world in a renewed emphasis to study the hell out of not just Europe, but Asia, India, Africa, South America...
Boy was I wrong. The emphasis is on BS like "gender studies", "Gay and Lesbian studies" and the like. Don't get me started on "labor history". That is the abode of people who hate Stalin for not being hard left enough.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 09:26 AM (D7oie)
25 years ago as a bright eyed history student I envisioned a world where history departments would seriously branch out here in the United States and have sections dedicated not just to U.S history but histories in all areas of the world in a renewed emphasis to study the hell out of not just Europe, but Asia, India, Africa, South America...
Boy was I wrong. The emphasis is on BS like "gender studies", "Gay and Lesbian studies" and the like. Don't get me started on "labor history". That is the abode of people who hate Stalin for not being hard left enough.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 11:07 AM (vm8sq)
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There had been talk of making The Hyperion Cantos into a movie, but I kind of hope they don't, unless they make it into a longer-format mini-series. 2.5 hours isn't enough time to tell that story.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 11:08 AM (PiwSw)
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MP4,
Please let us know when the next Theda Bara book comes out, whenever that is. I enjoyed the first two immensely and have them in hardcover.
Please let us know when the next Theda Bara book comes out, whenever that is. I enjoyed the first two immensely and have them in hardcover.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 11:11 AM (yTvNw)
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Gender studies, ethnic studies, etc.
How much damage has been done by the admonition to students to get out there and make a difference?
Kinda like journalism heading downhill once enough people bought into the idea that the journalist was supposed to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.
What would have been wrong with simply reporting the who, what, when, etc? What would be wrong with telling students they're in a terrific country, so forget the fundamental transformations and maintain what you've got?
How much damage has been done by the admonition to students to get out there and make a difference?
Kinda like journalism heading downhill once enough people bought into the idea that the journalist was supposed to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.
What would have been wrong with simply reporting the who, what, when, etc? What would be wrong with telling students they're in a terrific country, so forget the fundamental transformations and maintain what you've got?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:12 AM (q3u5l)
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Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 10:09 AM (q3u5l)
Got it. You neglected to mention you also had a number of short stories.
Got it. You neglected to mention you also had a number of short stories.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 13, 2025 11:14 AM (lFFaq)
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I would go with Lloyd's choice
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 11:15 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:16 AM (q3u5l)
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Good morning, Bookfolk!
Remember Summer Reading Challenges at the local public library? My county library system has an adult category and this week I completed the challenge of 2000 minutes! I've been listening to All The Light We Cannot See while I work out and I finished it this week. Excellent book; highly recommend. Set in WWII, the main characters are a blind French girl and a German boy gifted electrical engineer. But what I really want to discuss is the the writing style and format. 1/2
Remember Summer Reading Challenges at the local public library? My county library system has an adult category and this week I completed the challenge of 2000 minutes! I've been listening to All The Light We Cannot See while I work out and I finished it this week. Excellent book; highly recommend. Set in WWII, the main characters are a blind French girl and a German boy gifted electrical engineer. But what I really want to discuss is the the writing style and format. 1/2
Posted by: March Hare at July 13, 2025 11:20 AM (O/GSq)
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118 Arroz has no clue as to why publishing is failing. Short version is three generations of students never learned/were never taught how to read. And that's by design. People who can't read are far more easily led down the primrose path to communism.
Posted by: 0007 at July 13, 2025 10:11 AM (ZrNSG)
I wish I could agree.
See, I have noticed in schools that there are the kids that read on their own, in about the same proportion to when I was in school. It still happens. (And it doesn't take stupid people to go to communism. Note that some of the biggest names in the commie rogues gallery were very intelligent, well read people.)
Posted by: 0007 at July 13, 2025 10:11 AM (ZrNSG)
I wish I could agree.
See, I have noticed in schools that there are the kids that read on their own, in about the same proportion to when I was in school. It still happens. (And it doesn't take stupid people to go to communism. Note that some of the biggest names in the commie rogues gallery were very intelligent, well read people.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 11:23 AM (vm8sq)
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2/2 The author, Anthony Doerr, alternates POV among the various characters, although primarily on the French girl and German boy. He also moves through the timeline, starting in 1944 and the Siege of San Merlo in Brittany, then back to the late 1930's when the primary characters were children. Sounds crazy, especially in audiobook format, but it works. Kudos to the reader, a male, who didn't try for voices or accents and was able to make clear who, when, and where the story was happening. Mr. Doerr also divided his chapters into subchapters, with headings, that also helped retain the focus.
Aspiring Moron authors might want check out this book and see if this technique is something they want to play with.
Aspiring Moron authors might want check out this book and see if this technique is something they want to play with.
Posted by: March Hare at July 13, 2025 11:25 AM (O/GSq)
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Apologies, it is Eric Weinstein.
Here he is on Joe Rogan ...
https://youtu.be/qJUCwmoC7VI?si=UC-ypm4vylu4xrse
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars
Thanks for that. I decided to study physics, just for my own fun, and ran into the conundrum.
This is the way it is... it doesn't work, but we'll just keep adding unknowns until it does...
Here he is on Joe Rogan ...
https://youtu.be/qJUCwmoC7VI?si=UC-ypm4vylu4xrse
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars
Thanks for that. I decided to study physics, just for my own fun, and ran into the conundrum.
This is the way it is... it doesn't work, but we'll just keep adding unknowns until it does...
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 11:26 AM (cPGH3)
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The students may be taught to read, but publishing's in trouble in part I think because somehow they don't learn that reading long form stuff (or even short stories) can be fun.
As to all the intelligent well-read lefties -- seems to me they all know better than those long-dead dummies who came before them. Just ask them. They know how everything should be run, and too many of them would be perfectly happy to kill you if you don't agree.
As to all the intelligent well-read lefties -- seems to me they all know better than those long-dead dummies who came before them. Just ask them. They know how everything should be run, and too many of them would be perfectly happy to kill you if you don't agree.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:28 AM (q3u5l)
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MPPP has noted it, but 'The Book of Merlyn' is White's final work on Arthur. It was not even published in England, but in America by The University of Texas press of all people.
I recently found a copy of this first edition at my local Used Bookshop. Cost all of $3. Go figure...
Movies: I don't want to see any of my favorite books made into movies. So there. Hollywood "writers" are loathsome swine who hate everything, and do their feeble best to subvert and/or ruin the basic elements of the story. So, in the case of 'Ringworld' they would make Louis Wu a tranny freak, Speaker to Animals a vegetarian, and Nessus a Viking Spock. And they would travel to the Ringworld to save it from Global Warming.
Feh.
I recently found a copy of this first edition at my local Used Bookshop. Cost all of $3. Go figure...
Movies: I don't want to see any of my favorite books made into movies. So there. Hollywood "writers" are loathsome swine who hate everything, and do their feeble best to subvert and/or ruin the basic elements of the story. So, in the case of 'Ringworld' they would make Louis Wu a tranny freak, Speaker to Animals a vegetarian, and Nessus a Viking Spock. And they would travel to the Ringworld to save it from Global Warming.
Feh.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 13, 2025 11:31 AM (ys+zb)
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Last night, put up on Amazon a new short story which makes the fourth in the last thirty days plus. Been hearing forever that short fiction is dying. Is it? IDK. I'm a zombie writer, so y'know, my opinion on life and death of the market is unclear.
That Peter Hamilton series, I only read part of the first book. I think individually invincible swarms of foes is a bad thing in a book.
Been reading several Craig Falconer 'summer sizzlers' which are novellas. One of the first was this left wing reporter who stole a time machine, and found to his dismay that he was a prophet in the Future.
'The Pilgrims' is a novel. Aliens are coming. Degenerate scum steals money from his Mom to spend the last moments before the aliens blow us up with an OnlyFans girl. Aliens arrive. His mind gets rearranged a lot by the two sides.
That Peter Hamilton series, I only read part of the first book. I think individually invincible swarms of foes is a bad thing in a book.
Been reading several Craig Falconer 'summer sizzlers' which are novellas. One of the first was this left wing reporter who stole a time machine, and found to his dismay that he was a prophet in the Future.
'The Pilgrims' is a novel. Aliens are coming. Degenerate scum steals money from his Mom to spend the last moments before the aliens blow us up with an OnlyFans girl. Aliens arrive. His mind gets rearranged a lot by the two sides.
Posted by: Eric2 at July 13, 2025 11:31 AM (q7Vou)
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And of course, a bunch of those lefties are now in publishing, so why should anything that goes against their wisdom be circulated among a population that just isn't as brilliant as they are?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:32 AM (q3u5l)
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As to all the intelligent well-read lefties -- seems to me they all know better than those long-dead dummies who came before them. Just ask them. They know how everything should be run, and too many of them would be perfectly happy to kill you if you don't agree.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:28 AM (q3u5l)
The more things change, the more they stay the same. We're living in a very old story.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:28 AM (q3u5l)
The more things change, the more they stay the same. We're living in a very old story.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 11:33 AM (g8Ew8)
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As to all the intelligent well-read lefties -- seems to me they all know better than those long-dead dummies who came before them. Just ask them. They know how everything should be run, and too many of them would be perfectly happy to kill you if you don't agree.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:28 AM (q3u5l)
JSG, you forgot the "" around "intelligent well-read lefties." As you know, they're really not intelligent and well read at all.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:28 AM (q3u5l)
JSG, you forgot the "" around "intelligent well-read lefties." As you know, they're really not intelligent and well read at all.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 11:33 AM (0eaVi)
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OrangeEnt -- yep, shoulda had the quotation marks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:35 AM (q3u5l)
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Last night, put up on Amazon a new short story which makes the fourth in the last thirty days plus. Been hearing forever that short fiction is dying. Is it? IDK. I'm a zombie writer, so y'know, my opinion on life and death of the market is unclear.
Posted by: Eric2 at July 13, 2025 11:31 AM (q7Vou)
There are fewer print options out there. I've looked for hard-boiled, light comedy, spy, western, and sci-fi. There's not much out there. As said in the vid, Amazon discontinued their magazine subscription area. If finding short fiction is only available on Amazon and a few other sites, it is shrinking.
Posted by: Eric2 at July 13, 2025 11:31 AM (q7Vou)
There are fewer print options out there. I've looked for hard-boiled, light comedy, spy, western, and sci-fi. There's not much out there. As said in the vid, Amazon discontinued their magazine subscription area. If finding short fiction is only available on Amazon and a few other sites, it is shrinking.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 11:38 AM (0eaVi)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 11:41 AM (3Rpkk)
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Gotta go. Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 11:41 AM (0eaVi)
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Well, gotta do a few annoying household things, pester Mrs Some Guy, all that.
Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
And thanks again, Horde. Have a good one.
Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
And thanks again, Horde. Have a good one.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 11:44 AM (q3u5l)
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I read "American Assassin" by Vince Flynn. Great thriller.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 11:41 AM (3Rpkk)
All of Flynn's books are good. I would have loved for him to have lived long enough to see how he'd be writing now and what he'd have Mitch Rapp up to.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 11:41 AM (3Rpkk)
All of Flynn's books are good. I would have loved for him to have lived long enough to see how he'd be writing now and what he'd have Mitch Rapp up to.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 11:45 AM (g8Ew8)
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"What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?"
I read Mary Shelly's "Frankenstein" a little while ago. It's great. None of the films follow the book exclusively. Should be made into a mini-series, if needed.
I read Mary Shelly's "Frankenstein" a little while ago. It's great. None of the films follow the book exclusively. Should be made into a mini-series, if needed.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 11:45 AM (3Rpkk)
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Shadow Physics: by Adam Kay.. A moron recommendation that I will second.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:45 AM (+ViXu)
Super excited to hear this, I love that book. I think it also ties into the discussion of the real next technological breakthrough - we need gravitational equations (and mastery) on a par with Maxwell’s equations.
Posted by: who knew at July 13, 2025 09:45 AM (+ViXu)
Super excited to hear this, I love that book. I think it also ties into the discussion of the real next technological breakthrough - we need gravitational equations (and mastery) on a par with Maxwell’s equations.
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:47 AM (6VvdC)
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Thank you for the Book Thread Perfessor and many thanks to those who posted book recommendations. They are much appreciated.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 13, 2025 11:47 AM (qliBS)
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I am currently reading "The Way of Perfection" by St. Terese of Avila. Great writing. Easy to understand. Very good for Christian meditation as we see a "society of the world" and a "society of the church" coexisting in the same physical space.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 13, 2025 11:48 AM (3Rpkk)
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Super excited to hear this, I love that book. I think it also ties into the discussion of the real next technological breakthrough - we need gravitational equations (and mastery) on a par with Maxwell’s equations.
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:47 AM (6VvdC)
We need safe and efficient flying Cars.
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:47 AM (6VvdC)
We need safe and efficient flying Cars.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 13, 2025 11:49 AM (/iKaI)
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Sharkman at July 13, 2025 09:13 AM (/RHNq)
Going to second this recommendation, Tchaikovsky is great at bio-based sci-fi, a really rich, under-developed area.
Going to second this recommendation, Tchaikovsky is great at bio-based sci-fi, a really rich, under-developed area.
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:51 AM (6VvdC)
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Shadow Physics: by Adam Kay
Same price in hardcover or paper on Amazon and both a few bucks less than Kindle. Go figure.
Same price in hardcover or paper on Amazon and both a few bucks less than Kindle. Go figure.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 11:56 AM (/y8xj)
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Not steampunk but cyberpunk, I think the adaptation of Gibson's "Peripheral" on Amazon is pretty good (though I don't remember the book and it may be that
Chloë Grace Moretz is just so gorgeous).
Chloë Grace Moretz is just so gorgeous).
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:56 AM (6VvdC)
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Waste of my time but finished, because down to the final word I just wanted a REASON: A Spool of Blue Thread by Anne Tyler. She killed off the only likeable character and mishandled the only character who was intriguing.
Posted by: Marybel Smiles at July 13, 2025 11:56 AM (ZQb51)
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Not steampunk but cyberpunk, I think the adaptation of Gibson's "Peripheral" on Amazon is pretty good (though I don't remember the book and it may be that
Chloë Grace Moretz is just so gorgeous).
Good book, good miniseries, but only uh "peripherally" related.
Chloë Grace Moretz is just so gorgeous).
Good book, good miniseries, but only uh "peripherally" related.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 11:59 AM (/y8xj)
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As to all the intelligent well-read lefties -- seems to me they all know better than those long-dead dummies who came before them. Just ask them. They know how everything should be run, and too many of them would be perfectly happy to kill you if you don't agree.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
There are various graphic memes out there with
"Leftism, Ideas so good they have to kill people"
Posted by: Just Some Guy
There are various graphic memes out there with
"Leftism, Ideas so good they have to kill people"
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Thanks again, Perf and Horde. I always appreciate recommendations.
Off to interact with Meatspace.
Off to interact with Meatspace.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 13, 2025 12:00 PM (kpS4V)
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Chloë Grace Moretz is just so gorgeous).
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:56 AM (6VvdC)
Too bad she is a lesbo.
Posted by: Candidus at July 13, 2025 11:56 AM (6VvdC)
Too bad she is a lesbo.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 12:01 PM (VofaG)
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WE HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:01 PM (+qU29)
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Once and Future King is one of my favorite books!! We read it in 9th grade and the teacher (former Cambridge professor) delved into the political ramifications of the story and how it applied to Western politics. Stuff going on in the world made a little more sense to me after that.
I'm reading The Books of Enoch and Heiser's Commentary on the Books of Enoch now, and for those not brought up with these apocryphal books, whoo doggie! It's a wild ride!!!
I'm reading The Books of Enoch and Heiser's Commentary on the Books of Enoch now, and for those not brought up with these apocryphal books, whoo doggie! It's a wild ride!!!
Posted by: moki at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (wLjpr)
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i suspect the pants are some sort of mixed-language pun. "hot dolgist" -> typo or pun on "dolg", slovene adjective meaning long, therefore "i've got a hot long one"?
Posted by: anachronda at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (edU/H)
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248 Once and Future King is one of my favorite books!! We read it in 9th grade and the teacher (former Cambridge professor) delved into the political ramifications of the story and how it applied to Western politics. Stuff going on in the world made a little more sense to me after that.
Posted by: moki at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (wLjpr)
That teacher didn't gavel his class to order, did he?
Posted by: moki at July 13, 2025 12:04 PM (wLjpr)
That teacher didn't gavel his class to order, did he?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:05 PM (vm8sq)
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244 As to all the intelligent well-read lefties -- seems to me they all know better than those long-dead dummies who came before them. Just ask them. They know how everything should be run, and too many of them would be perfectly happy to kill you if you don't agree.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
There are various graphic memes out there with
"Leftism, Ideas so good they have to kill people"
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 12:00 PM (/lPRQ)
No question. On Mao's deathbed were many classics of Chinese literature. He loved to read, and read constantly. He told his followers back during the Great Leap Forward "A good revolutionary doesn't read too many books." Fucking hypocrite.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
There are various graphic memes out there with
"Leftism, Ideas so good they have to kill people"
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 12:00 PM (/lPRQ)
No question. On Mao's deathbed were many classics of Chinese literature. He loved to read, and read constantly. He told his followers back during the Great Leap Forward "A good revolutionary doesn't read too many books." Fucking hypocrite.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:10 PM (vm8sq)
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My bitch about Jared Diamond and Guns Germs and Steel is that he is an ornithologist who seems to have specialized in Island species, and those are the ones most likely to go extinct under outside competition as the ecology of islands change from invader species.
I feel this is an approach from a "fragility mindset" which is at odds to what seems to be more of an adaptive / maladaptive break approach in describing coping with cultural and technological change, and as a philosophical approach, denies that things like carrying capacity can be changed in an environment, and that human flourishing is possible without explicit externalization of costs to other "outside" cultures.
a steady-state world is very reassuring to the cultural and economic elites, but it causes fragility in the face of technological change.
I feel this is an approach from a "fragility mindset" which is at odds to what seems to be more of an adaptive / maladaptive break approach in describing coping with cultural and technological change, and as a philosophical approach, denies that things like carrying capacity can be changed in an environment, and that human flourishing is possible without explicit externalization of costs to other "outside" cultures.
a steady-state world is very reassuring to the cultural and economic elites, but it causes fragility in the face of technological change.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 12:11 PM (D7oie)
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Mao was a librarian by training
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (D7oie)
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Neverenoughcaffeine:
I didn't read what your computer problems are, but my Apple guru works long-distance (though Bozeman to Missoula isn't that far). He does a lot of my stuff from his office. I have a whirligig on my laptop and he signs into it, asking permission each time, and then crawls around its innards until he finds the problem.
I didn't read what your computer problems are, but my Apple guru works long-distance (though Bozeman to Missoula isn't that far). He does a lot of my stuff from his office. I have a whirligig on my laptop and he signs into it, asking permission each time, and then crawls around its innards until he finds the problem.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025 12:18 PM (8p/ok)
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I’m looking up all these books to movie suggestions. That’s the best review and recommendation I think you can give a book.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:34 AM (VofaG)
Ok, then my proposal is The Unwound Way by Bill Adams and Cecil Brooks. Science Fiction, Secret Agents, alien artifacts, lost races, and a desperate struggles on an alien world that appears to be only a conspiracy to enslave a sector of the galaxy.
Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2025 10:34 AM (VofaG)
Ok, then my proposal is The Unwound Way by Bill Adams and Cecil Brooks. Science Fiction, Secret Agents, alien artifacts, lost races, and a desperate struggles on an alien world that appears to be only a conspiracy to enslave a sector of the galaxy.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 12:19 PM (D7oie)
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Orange Ent,
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (8p/ok)
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Orange Ent,
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (8p/ok)
Just checking in.
Ha! Why doesn't that surprise me.
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025 12:20 PM (8p/ok)
Just checking in.
Ha! Why doesn't that surprise me.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 12:23 PM (0eaVi)
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I’m usually late on here but I wonder if the comic book guys have read anything by Chris Ware - he does graphic novels. I’m just curious b/c he’s a childhood friend of mine. Maybe I’ll bring it up later.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at July 13, 2025 12:24 PM (JcWw+)
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Thanks for that. I decided to study physics, just for my own fun, and ran into the conundrum.
This is the way it is... it doesn't work, but we'll just keep adding unknowns until it does...
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 11:26 AM (cPGH3)
it is called "epicycles". It is the newest thing. Essentially it explains how perfect Heavenly bodies which move in perfect circular orbits can have such observed variations from predictions, and it does away with the concept of ether filling space supporting their passage.
This is the way it is... it doesn't work, but we'll just keep adding unknowns until it does...
Posted by: MkY at July 13, 2025 11:26 AM (cPGH3)
it is called "epicycles". It is the newest thing. Essentially it explains how perfect Heavenly bodies which move in perfect circular orbits can have such observed variations from predictions, and it does away with the concept of ether filling space supporting their passage.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 12:26 PM (D7oie)
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253 Mao was a librarian by training
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (D7oie)
And at one point a teacher.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2025 12:12 PM (D7oie)
And at one point a teacher.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2025 12:26 PM (vm8sq)
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257 I always think of Rush when I think of Nero Wolfe.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at July 13, 2025 12:27 PM (JcWw+)
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I always think of Rush when I think of Nero Wolfe.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at July 13, 2025 12:27 PM (JcWw+)
I think of William Conrad.
Yeah, ask again next week's thread about comics. They guys are early.
Status of your book?
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at July 13, 2025 12:27 PM (JcWw+)
I think of William Conrad.
Yeah, ask again next week's thread about comics. They guys are early.
Status of your book?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2025 12:28 PM (0eaVi)
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Re: The Once and Future King. I have that edition in hardback and read it as a young'un, before the Disney movie came out. My dad was a BIG fan of Arthurian legends; Prince Valiant was a staple in the Sunday Comics section of the paper.
I bought a two-volume edition of Sir Thomas Mallory's Le Morte D'Arthur when I was in college which includes several stories that I didn't remember from T.H. White's version. The Mallory edition is written in the English of 1485 and, IIRC, I had to read some of the sentences outloud in order to make sense of them. I can't imagine reading Mallory without knowing the general outlines of the Arthurian legends.
I bought a two-volume edition of Sir Thomas Mallory's Le Morte D'Arthur when I was in college which includes several stories that I didn't remember from T.H. White's version. The Mallory edition is written in the English of 1485 and, IIRC, I had to read some of the sentences outloud in order to make sense of them. I can't imagine reading Mallory without knowing the general outlines of the Arthurian legends.
Posted by: March Hare at July 13, 2025 12:40 PM (O/GSq)
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"...story where everyone is unlikeable..."
Bonfire of the Vanities.
Bonfire of the Vanities.
Posted by: Joe Redfield at July 13, 2025 01:11 PM (KOtXO)
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Orange Ent,
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025
***
If so, Wenda, Stout must have seen Greenstreet in a stage performance at some point. The first Wolfe novel appeared in 1934 -- and Greenstreet did his first movie in 1941.
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025
***
If so, Wenda, Stout must have seen Greenstreet in a stage performance at some point. The first Wolfe novel appeared in 1934 -- and Greenstreet did his first movie in 1941.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 01:25 PM (omVj0)
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"Yes, the old SF magazines are stumbling. F & SF is only every other month now, or maybe it's quarterly.
"***
"Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:09 AM"
So it's come full circle. The Magazine of F&SF began in 1949 (Vol. 1, No. 1, Fall 1949) as a maybe quarterly magazine. The next four issues were Winter, Summer, Fall and December 1950, and it then went to publishing every other month in 1951, and in 1952 until November 1952 when it went to monthly publication. It skipped an issue in 1975, and after that I'm not sure of the publication history as my complete collection, and interest in the magazine, ends in 1976.
Galaxy Science Fiction skipped the December 1955 issue, and went to publishing every other month from 1959 through 1968 when it resumed monthly publication in November. Worlds of If also went to a less regular publishing schedule about the same time as Galaxy (they were published by same company and, IIRC, alternated publishing months for awhile).
SF mags cont below...
"Yes, the old SF magazines are stumbling. F & SF is only every other month now, or maybe it's quarterly.
"***
"Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:09 AM"
So it's come full circle. The Magazine of F&SF began in 1949 (Vol. 1, No. 1, Fall 1949) as a maybe quarterly magazine. The next four issues were Winter, Summer, Fall and December 1950, and it then went to publishing every other month in 1951, and in 1952 until November 1952 when it went to monthly publication. It skipped an issue in 1975, and after that I'm not sure of the publication history as my complete collection, and interest in the magazine, ends in 1976.
Galaxy Science Fiction skipped the December 1955 issue, and went to publishing every other month from 1959 through 1968 when it resumed monthly publication in November. Worlds of If also went to a less regular publishing schedule about the same time as Galaxy (they were published by same company and, IIRC, alternated publishing months for awhile).
SF mags cont below...
Posted by: Pope John 20th at July 13, 2025 01:46 PM (yl1YV)
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So even in the golden era (or maybe it was the silver era) of science fiction magazines, the market could be a bit choppy at times.
Still, as you say, the market for hard-copy fiction magazines of all types has weakened tremendously since the 1960s. My own interest in those magazines pretty much much ended by the 1970s with the death or retirement of my favorite authors in the 60s and 70s. Consequently, after about the 1980s issues my magazine collections of the big four (F&SF, Galaxy, Astounding/Analog and Worlds of If) are very hit or miss.
SF mags cont below...
So even in the golden era (or maybe it was the silver era) of science fiction magazines, the market could be a bit choppy at times.
Still, as you say, the market for hard-copy fiction magazines of all types has weakened tremendously since the 1960s. My own interest in those magazines pretty much much ended by the 1970s with the death or retirement of my favorite authors in the 60s and 70s. Consequently, after about the 1980s issues my magazine collections of the big four (F&SF, Galaxy, Astounding/Analog and Worlds of If) are very hit or miss.
SF mags cont below...
Posted by: Pope John 20th at July 13, 2025 02:02 PM (yl1YV)
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Theologically, Bobby Dollar doesn't make sense.
We are saved by faith, through grace. Not by works. Or deserving.
That stuff drives me crazy in books.
We are saved by faith, through grace. Not by works. Or deserving.
That stuff drives me crazy in books.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 13, 2025 02:04 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 13, 2025 02:04 PM (p/isN)
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Maybe "electronic magazines" as pdfs or Kindle-type pubs for modern fiction will expand over time and kill off the last few hard-copy pulp-type magazines left-heck, maybe electronic mags are already widely available and I've just not noticed it yet. Most of the stuff I read nowadays (pdfs and Kindle books of older fiction, and less popular aspects of military history-I'm reading mostly about the Italian wars, 80 years war and the military transformation of early modern Europe at the moment) isn't found in bookstores and so I rarely go into one-I do get some stuff from uni and research libraries, but I mostly get those through interlibrary loan.
Or maybe blogs, substacks, blog comment sections, podcasts, ewwtube videos and the like are or can become a modern substitute for the old genre magazines.
Maybe "electronic magazines" as pdfs or Kindle-type pubs for modern fiction will expand over time and kill off the last few hard-copy pulp-type magazines left-heck, maybe electronic mags are already widely available and I've just not noticed it yet. Most of the stuff I read nowadays (pdfs and Kindle books of older fiction, and less popular aspects of military history-I'm reading mostly about the Italian wars, 80 years war and the military transformation of early modern Europe at the moment) isn't found in bookstores and so I rarely go into one-I do get some stuff from uni and research libraries, but I mostly get those through interlibrary loan.
Or maybe blogs, substacks, blog comment sections, podcasts, ewwtube videos and the like are or can become a modern substitute for the old genre magazines.
Posted by: Pope John 20th at July 13, 2025 02:41 PM (yl1YV)
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late, but amazing to see two (3?) references to Escape From Shadow Physics.
re edits: I typically add corrections as notes to my Kindle books. Not sure if or how they'd been seen.
re edits: I typically add corrections as notes to my Kindle books. Not sure if or how they'd been seen.
Posted by: yara in Katy at July 13, 2025 02:54 PM (EbWSH)
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Late again, but enjoyed the post & discussions.
What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Invulnerable — maybe as an animation
linked in nic
What book have you read that you want it to be made into a movie?
Invulnerable — maybe as an animation
linked in nic
Posted by: mindful webworker - hahaha hahaha at July 13, 2025 03:15 PM (+kBwA)
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I picked up a few dirt cheap copies of old Ellery Queen pulp magazines at my library's sale bin. It's too bad they went out of style, they were fun. I do wonder if some of those stories will vanish forever, being so out of print, of it someone has taken time to hunt down all the old collections and digitize them.
We are not a society that reads anymore, at least not like in the past. Instead we watch and stream stories. But I do see a revival of the anthology on Amazon and through indie publishing. AI voice readers are getting more expressive and sophisticated, so these digital books can easily become audiobooks now. They will never replace a true voice actor, but they allow for more access. Hopefully it inspires a new crop of readers and writers.
We are not a society that reads anymore, at least not like in the past. Instead we watch and stream stories. But I do see a revival of the anthology on Amazon and through indie publishing. AI voice readers are getting more expressive and sophisticated, so these digital books can easily become audiobooks now. They will never replace a true voice actor, but they allow for more access. Hopefully it inspires a new crop of readers and writers.
Posted by: LizLem at July 13, 2025 03:20 PM (gWBY1)
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Black cats are the best cats!
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Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2025 03:51 PM (kd60y)
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"I picked up a few dirt cheap copies of old Ellery Queen pulp magazines at my library's sale bin. It's too bad they went out of style, they were fun. I do wonder if some of those stories will vanish forever, being so out of print, of it someone has taken time to hunt down all the old collections and digitize them."
LizLem: Yeah, unfortunately much of our "literary" culture has disappeared through neglect and the ravages of time. For example, because no-one had much incentive to preserve them and preservation was costly and difficult, many silent and sound era films, radio programs and early TV programs have not survived. Much the same has happened with what were then mostly viewed as disposable magazines from long, and not so long, ago. Some attempts have been made to preserve them-Forry Ackerman famously had a collection of science fiction and horror magazines that could be literally measured by the ton, but he lacked funds to properly preserve them and so much rotted away.
Pulp mag availability cont below...
LizLem: Yeah, unfortunately much of our "literary" culture has disappeared through neglect and the ravages of time. For example, because no-one had much incentive to preserve them and preservation was costly and difficult, many silent and sound era films, radio programs and early TV programs have not survived. Much the same has happened with what were then mostly viewed as disposable magazines from long, and not so long, ago. Some attempts have been made to preserve them-Forry Ackerman famously had a collection of science fiction and horror magazines that could be literally measured by the ton, but he lacked funds to properly preserve them and so much rotted away.
Pulp mag availability cont below...
Posted by: Pope John 20th at July 13, 2025 04:17 PM (yl1YV)
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Orange Ent,
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025
***
If so, Wenda, Stout must have seen Greenstreet in a stage performance at some point. The first Wolfe novel appeared in 1934 -- and Greenstreet did his first movie in 1941.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 01:25 PM (omVj0)
Nero Wolfe was patterned after Mycroft Holmes. Fat, set in his ways, and solved mysteries without leaving his domicile.
Rex Stout was one of the founding members of the Baker Street Irregulars: started as a drinking club with a passion for the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Arthur Conan Doyle.
Rex Stout was a wisp of a man with a beard that looked as though he had dipped his chin in soapsuds.
I was told that he patterned Nero Wolfe after the actor Sidney Greenstreet.
Posted by: Wenda at July 13, 2025
***
If so, Wenda, Stout must have seen Greenstreet in a stage performance at some point. The first Wolfe novel appeared in 1934 -- and Greenstreet did his first movie in 1941.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 01:25 PM (omVj0)
Nero Wolfe was patterned after Mycroft Holmes. Fat, set in his ways, and solved mysteries without leaving his domicile.
Rex Stout was one of the founding members of the Baker Street Irregulars: started as a drinking club with a passion for the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Arthur Conan Doyle.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 13, 2025 04:24 PM (pJWtt)
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Pulp mag availability cont...
Although lots of the pulps, particularly the early issues, perished, some survived in the hands of private collectors and others. Although there doesn't seem to be quite the same effort to scan and make the pulps as Faded page, Gutenberg, Internet Archive and the like have done for books and (in the case of the Archive) other media, collectors have scanned quite a few of the pulp mags and made pdfs of them available online for download. A quick check shows that many Ellery Queen Mystery Magazine issues from its first issue through the early 70s are available online. The Internet Archive is always a good place to start for older texts, although the shear quantity of material available there can make searches difficult. Anyway, start there, and if you need further leads just post a request here on the Sunday Book thread with some mention of what you are looking for and I'll try to provide additional suggestions...
Pulp mag availability cont below...
Although lots of the pulps, particularly the early issues, perished, some survived in the hands of private collectors and others. Although there doesn't seem to be quite the same effort to scan and make the pulps as Faded page, Gutenberg, Internet Archive and the like have done for books and (in the case of the Archive) other media, collectors have scanned quite a few of the pulp mags and made pdfs of them available online for download. A quick check shows that many Ellery Queen Mystery Magazine issues from its first issue through the early 70s are available online. The Internet Archive is always a good place to start for older texts, although the shear quantity of material available there can make searches difficult. Anyway, start there, and if you need further leads just post a request here on the Sunday Book thread with some mention of what you are looking for and I'll try to provide additional suggestions...
Pulp mag availability cont below...
Posted by: Pope John 20th at July 13, 2025 04:31 PM (yl1YV)
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Pulp mag availability cont...
Oh, and some small commercial publishers are mining the old magazines for stories and reprinting collections of older out-of-print stories by authors who have a following. For example, Haffner Press has been reprinting lots of collections of science fiction and mystery stories from the pulp mags. It has already published the first two of a four volume collection of Fredric Brown's mystery stories, and has books with some of the less well known works by Leigh Brackett, Henry Kuttner, Catherine (CL) Moore and others. Be careful ordering directly from Haffner, however, as its web site has not been updated for quite a while and so I'm not sure it's still in business. Most of the Haffner stuff published so far can be ordered through Amazon which is safer.
Oh, and some small commercial publishers are mining the old magazines for stories and reprinting collections of older out-of-print stories by authors who have a following. For example, Haffner Press has been reprinting lots of collections of science fiction and mystery stories from the pulp mags. It has already published the first two of a four volume collection of Fredric Brown's mystery stories, and has books with some of the less well known works by Leigh Brackett, Henry Kuttner, Catherine (CL) Moore and others. Be careful ordering directly from Haffner, however, as its web site has not been updated for quite a while and so I'm not sure it's still in business. Most of the Haffner stuff published so far can be ordered through Amazon which is safer.
Posted by: Pope John 20th at July 13, 2025 04:36 PM (yl1YV)
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Posted by: WilliamHof at July 13, 2025 06:29 PM (tBfmz)
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Finished my discrete math book this week. It was so much fun I decided to stop putting off reading Life of Fred Calculus and jump right in. Done four chapters so far. Chain rule!
Posted by: pjungwir at July 13, 2025 06:43 PM (q4wrI)
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The Once and Future King is my all-time favorite. There is so much depth that its survived 20+ readings. But I wouldn't want it made into a movie. As Frank Herbert experienced with Dune, the skillset necessary to translate text into video is unique. You would need someone as great as T. H. White and with today's PCBS they would turn it into Trans propaganda or somesuch.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 01:05 AM (ciYHQ)
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I'm still haunted by these lines (from memory, so apologies if it's off)
The miracle was that he'd been allowed to perform a miracle. And ever, says Mallory, Lancelot wept as if he were a child who had been beaten
The miracle was that he'd been allowed to perform a miracle. And ever, says Mallory, Lancelot wept as if he were a child who had been beaten
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 14, 2025 01:10 AM (ciYHQ)
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So much talk about the Once and Future King. Just read Mallory! It is so good. The language is not really a big deal. Sound it out. It's mickle fun.
Posted by: pjungwir at July 14, 2025 01:50 AM (q4wrI)
Daily Tech News 13 July 2025
Top Story
- Well, that was quick: The Commodore 64 Ultimate is the first hardware from the eponymous company since around the time of the Peloponnesian War. (Liliputing)
For certain values of "new". It is based around an existing hardware emulator kit and a very slightly modified version of the original case. Or more than slightly modified if you choose the translucent RGB Starlight or Founders Edition models.
It's been updated just a little, of course. The original user port is gone, replaced with a selection of HDMI, Ethernet, and USB ports. The RAM capacity has been increased slightly, from 64K to 128MB. And the CPU is a FPGA emulating the original 6510 (a modified 6502) in hardware, apparently at around 168MHz.
It also includes two ZIF sockets for optional SID audio chips, though those are only required for purists since the FPGA is quite happy to emulate those as well.
Apart from that, though, any original hardware that is still operational should simply plug in and work.
And it comes with a 64GB USB drive full of software and demos, the equivalent of about half a million floppy disks.
Priced at $299 for the basic beige model and $349 for the Starlight version.
Tech News
- If you want something slightly more modern, the Ayaneo Flip 1S updates the concept of the Nintendo DS. (Hot Hardware)
It features a 7" 1080p 144Hz OLED main screen, and a choice of a a secondary 4.5" screen or a full (but certainly not full-size) keyboard, plus the usual set of game pads.
And up to a 12-core Ryzen 370 CPU, 64GB of RAM, and 2TB of storage, because this is not a toy for children.
Starting at $799 it is very much a toy for adults.
Only unfortunate thing is they didn't manage to work some magic that would let you somehow swap between the second screen and the physical keyboard. That would have been neat.
- Seriously, do not touch the prairie dogs. (CNN)
Do not.
- Nvidia warns that its datacenter GPUs could be vulnerable to Rowhammer attacks if you deliberately make them vulnerable to Rowhammer attacks by turning off error checking. (Nerds)
Do not.
- Microsoft Outlook went down for nearly a day for some users. (AP)
What part of "do not" was too complicated?
Disclaimer: Do not. There is no do.
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Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 04:30 AM (aURVT)
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G'Day everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 04:31 AM (+qU29)
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Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.
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Not supposed to be up
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Eurogliders are a band formed in 1980 in Perth, Western Australia, which included Grace Knight on vocals, Bernie Lynch on guitar and vocals, and Amanda Vincent on keyboards. In 1984, Eurogliders released an Australian top ten album, This Island, which spawned their No. 2 hit single, "Heaven". Wikipedia
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 04:34 AM (aURVT)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 04:35 AM (xF8Ny)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 05:01 AM (1jBcp)
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G'morning, all!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 13, 2025 05:04 AM (a1415)
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X is a good thing in that it took some power away from the left's domination of social media. and allowed for presentation of conservative political views On the other hand, I'm not too thrilled with zingers by tweet or whatever you call comebacks that sounds like a bunch of eighth grade girls . "Oh, like, I totally owned them. Like totally."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:09 AM (2GCMq)
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Drink more electrolytes!
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:10 AM (aURVT)
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Drink more electrolytes!
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:10 AM (aURVT)
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Works for me! I now have a greater feeling of full filament.
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:10 AM (aURVT)
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Works for me! I now have a greater feeling of full filament.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 05:18 AM (1jBcp)
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This fellow from "Louder With Crowder" has a good short article about some on the left claiming Jesus would endorse all their political views although . I don't care for the term "Jesus based religions" . There is one "Jesus based religion". It is Christianity . What he obviously means is various Jesus based denominations or churches :
https://tinyurl.com/khahvh8c
https://tinyurl.com/khahvh8c
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12 Drink more electrolytes!
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Works for me! I now have a greater feeling of full filament.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 05:18 AM (1jBcp)
Shocking!
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:10 AM (aURVT)
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Works for me! I now have a greater feeling of full filament.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 05:18 AM (1jBcp)
Shocking!
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:21 AM (aURVT)
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Psalm 122:6
"Pray for Jerusalem ". Reflection from the rabbi who founded IFCJ:
https://tinyurl.com/2eeknefr
"Pray for Jerusalem ". Reflection from the rabbi who founded IFCJ:
https://tinyurl.com/2eeknefr
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:23 AM (2GCMq)
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Brawndo! It's got electrolytes!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 13, 2025 05:31 AM (/HDaX)
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So I looked at some of the ONT. if someone could convert the energy from the "Blondi Beat" ( Arguments What Bondi isn't or should be doing) into power a small city could run for quite some time.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:32 AM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 13, 2025 05:33 AM (HZi96)
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Shocking!
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:21 AM (aURVT)
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Side effects may include facial disfiguration, such as a bulbous nose.
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 05:21 AM (aURVT)
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Side effects may include facial disfiguration, such as a bulbous nose.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 05:37 AM (1jBcp)
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if someone could convert the energy from the "Blondi Beat" ( Arguments What Bondi isn't or should be doing) into power a small city could run for quite some time.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:32 AM (2GCMq)
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/hooks house up to bleach powered generator
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:32 AM (2GCMq)
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/hooks house up to bleach powered generator
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 05:40 AM (1jBcp)
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Grace Knight, the lead singer for Perth's Eurogliders (inkblot self-loathing?) went on to have a solo jazz career as Australia's diva. Some years later she reunited with the band and they are now on tour. And if you can't make it to Australia to see them, here's a sample of her singing a jazz standard.
Fever
Grace Knight
https://youtu.be/kV_HqaNzt_Q
Disclaimer: Perthgliders.
Fever
Grace Knight
https://youtu.be/kV_HqaNzt_Q
Disclaimer: Perthgliders.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 05:40 AM (NXz8h)
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dang. the commodore news warms my icy heart. i used those doggies 40+ y/a. i may have to call my doctor in four hours
Posted by: DenverGregg at July 13, 2025 05:42 AM (zDaIG)
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Speaking of being on tour, Paul McCartney is going to be on the road this year. Presale tickets start on July 15th. If you haven't seen Sir Paul's band, you might want to fix that as he's in his '80s. I never thought much of Wings live or on record, but this band, the one he's been playing live with for close to 25 years now? Holy smokes.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
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I just loved this article about an island off Norway which has become a place of pilgrimage for Roman Catholics:
https://tinyurl.com/bdfvzyts
https://tinyurl.com/bdfvzyts
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:56 AM (2GCMq)
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24 I just loved this article about an island off Norway which has become a place of pilgrimage for Roman Catholics
that's awesome.
that's awesome.
Posted by: DenverGregg at July 13, 2025 06:06 AM (zDaIG)
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Evening, late or Sunday toilers, and morning to the early risers! 'Tis Sunday yet again, huh?
I remember people long ago ("during the Punic Wars") talking about the Commodore 64, but I've never seen one. This new device looks like a fancy keyboard and nothing more. Where is the monitor? I mean, where can you *see* it doing what you buy a computer for?
I remember people long ago ("during the Punic Wars") talking about the Commodore 64, but I've never seen one. This new device looks like a fancy keyboard and nothing more. Where is the monitor? I mean, where can you *see* it doing what you buy a computer for?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:07 AM (omVj0)
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Never forgotten. Devotional on Isaiah 49:14-18 and suitable for interested Jews as well as Christians:
https://tinyurl.com/49cd437h
https://tinyurl.com/49cd437h
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 06:09 AM (2GCMq)
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Odd dream this morning. I was in a hotel, cleaning up old paperwork of my own from my computer field days -- notes and printouts of code I had absolutely no memory of doing (even in the dream). Also at the hotel was a convention of Get Smart fans, and I fell into conversation with them and offered my own commentary on the series and why it worked. I woke up about the time I was opining on why GS worked as a comedy and other comic shows Don Adams did, or shows/movies with a similar situation, did not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:10 AM (omVj0)
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g'mornin', 'rons
g'mornin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 13, 2025 06:16 AM (tljrc)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:17 AM (XZ5S6)
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I was opining on why GS worked as a comedy and other comic shows Don Adams did, or shows/movies with a similar situation, did not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:10 AM (omVj0)
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Helped that Buck Henry and Mel Brooks were writing the series.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:10 AM (omVj0)
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Helped that Buck Henry and Mel Brooks were writing the series.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:18 AM (XZ5S6)
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Sipping coffee I am, and planning to go for a last workout, very mild, before my surgery tomorrow. I'll keep the afternoon nap short and make bedtime tonight a little later, so, with luck, I can sleep tonight instead of laying there picturing all sorts of horrors.
Can't eat or drink after midnight tonight, of course. That's gonna be a strain first thing tomorrow. I'll keep a little cold coffee in the fridge so I can have a few swallows Monday afternoon; that will head off the coffee withdrawal symptoms.
As the old prospector says: "Gettin' old ain't for sissies."
Can't eat or drink after midnight tonight, of course. That's gonna be a strain first thing tomorrow. I'll keep a little cold coffee in the fridge so I can have a few swallows Monday afternoon; that will head off the coffee withdrawal symptoms.
As the old prospector says: "Gettin' old ain't for sissies."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:21 AM (omVj0)
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Anybody else sense that the raid on the pot farm in California has fallen from the medias interest file?
At first, tons of outrage...now, mostly crickets.
At first, tons of outrage...now, mostly crickets.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 13, 2025 06:22 AM (a1415)
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Helped that Buck Henry and Mel Brooks were writing the series.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025
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They wrote the pilot. I'm not sure they wrote much for it after that. But the writing and production staff were brilliant too.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025
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They wrote the pilot. I'm not sure they wrote much for it after that. But the writing and production staff were brilliant too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:23 AM (omVj0)
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At first, tons of outrage...now, mostly crickets.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 13, 2025 06:22 AM (a1415)
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Support for child slavery tends to be a bad look. Even "journalists" have figured that out.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 13, 2025 06:22 AM (a1415)
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Support for child slavery tends to be a bad look. Even "journalists" have figured that out.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:23 AM (XZ5S6)
Posted by: OkJohn at July 13, 2025 06:24 AM (NC/it)
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Get Smart *worked* because it did not try to graft bumbling comedy onto a relatively realistic TV world. It set up its own loony little universe, with barely-competent villains with disordered grandiose plots, and then let Max and 99 deal with it all. Adams' later series The Partners, from what I recall, had him and his fellow cop as comic loose cannons within a police department that could have come from Dragnet. That just did not work.
Trivia bit: The fellow who wrote the GS theme song, Irving Szathmary? He was Bill Dana's brother (Dana's real name was Szathmary). Dana and Don Adams had worked together on The Bill Dana Show a few years back, where Dana played his Jose Jimenez character and Adams was a goofy hotel detective. I'd like to see some of those episodes.
Trivia bit: The fellow who wrote the GS theme song, Irving Szathmary? He was Bill Dana's brother (Dana's real name was Szathmary). Dana and Don Adams had worked together on The Bill Dana Show a few years back, where Dana played his Jose Jimenez character and Adams was a goofy hotel detective. I'd like to see some of those episodes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:29 AM (omVj0)
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Good morning!
As the old prospector says: "Gettin' old ain't for sissies."
Beats the alternative.
As the old prospector says: "Gettin' old ain't for sissies."
Beats the alternative.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 13, 2025 06:29 AM (3Ope8)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:21 AM (omVj0
And what time tomorrow do you have to show up for surgery?
And what time tomorrow do you have to show up for surgery?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 06:29 AM (2GCMq)
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And what time tomorrow do you have to show up for surgery?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025
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I need to be there at 6:30 am. I'd simply told them I preferred early morning, and look what they chose. I hope the whole business will be over fairly early and I'll be back in my own bed, no doubt snoozing with Tramadol in my system, by noon -- after I eat something.
And what time tomorrow do you have to show up for surgery?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025
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I need to be there at 6:30 am. I'd simply told them I preferred early morning, and look what they chose. I hope the whole business will be over fairly early and I'll be back in my own bed, no doubt snoozing with Tramadol in my system, by noon -- after I eat something.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:31 AM (omVj0)
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What kind of surgery, Wolfus?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:32 AM (XZ5S6)
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As the old prospector says: "Gettin' old ain't for sissies."
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Beats the alternative.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 13, 2025
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As I like to say on Mondays, "Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"
As the old prospector says: "Gettin' old ain't for sissies."
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Beats the alternative.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 13, 2025
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As I like to say on Mondays, "Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:32 AM (omVj0)
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What kind of surgery, Wolfus?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025
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Mild hernia. No pain now, but it won't get better and could get worse, so I want it out of the way.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025
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Mild hernia. No pain now, but it won't get better and could get worse, so I want it out of the way.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:33 AM (omVj0)
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No pain now, but it won't get better and could get worse, so I want it out of the way.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:33 AM (omVj0)
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Good plan. Best of luck tomorrow.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:33 AM (omVj0)
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Good plan. Best of luck tomorrow.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:33 AM (XZ5S6)
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No pain now, but it won't get better and could get worse, so I want it out of the way.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025
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Good plan. Best of luck tomorrow.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025
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It's just the indignity of it, the thought of having to wear one of those chilly hospital gowns, and the feeling that I have no control over any part of it. Yeah, I know, we have very little control over most of our lives, only over ourselves, but I like the illusion!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025
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Good plan. Best of luck tomorrow.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025
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It's just the indignity of it, the thought of having to wear one of those chilly hospital gowns, and the feeling that I have no control over any part of it. Yeah, I know, we have very little control over most of our lives, only over ourselves, but I like the illusion!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:36 AM (omVj0)
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It's just the indignity of it, the thought of having to wear one of those chilly hospital gowns, and the feeling that I have no control over any part of it. Yeah, I know, we have very little control over most of our lives, only over ourselves, but I like the illusion!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:36 AM (omVj0)
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Well, I hope you have nursing and surgical staff as kind and professional as my friend did for her surgery last month. That helps a lot.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:36 AM (omVj0)
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Well, I hope you have nursing and surgical staff as kind and professional as my friend did for her surgery last month. That helps a lot.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:38 AM (XZ5S6)
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Byeee...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 13, 2025 06:40 AM (XZ5S6)
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It's just the indignity of it, the thought of having to wear one of those chilly hospital gowns, and the feeling that I have no control over any part of it. Yeah, I know, we have very little control over most of our lives, only over ourselves, but I like the illusion!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:36 AM (omVj0)
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Eh. I long ago accepted the fact that when I'm at the hospital undergoing a medical procedure, I'm basically a slab of meat. I let the technicians and doctors do what they do best with little to no complaint from me.
They are usually quite professional and compassionate because they know people are often very scared at the hospital and need reassurance.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:36 AM (omVj0)
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Eh. I long ago accepted the fact that when I'm at the hospital undergoing a medical procedure, I'm basically a slab of meat. I let the technicians and doctors do what they do best with little to no complaint from me.
They are usually quite professional and compassionate because they know people are often very scared at the hospital and need reassurance.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 06:42 AM (IBQGV)
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This fellow from "Louder With Crowder" has a good short article about some on the left claiming Jesus would endorse all their political views although . I don't care for the term "Jesus based religions" . There is one "Jesus based religion". It is Christianity . What he obviously means is various Jesus based denominations or churches
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:18 AM (2GCMq)
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Leftists *hate* Christianity with the fiery heat of a billion suns. Yet they strive mightily to subvert Christianity to their cause. They will lose, of course, but they do tremendous damage to those who are seeking Christ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 05:18 AM (2GCMq)
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Leftists *hate* Christianity with the fiery heat of a billion suns. Yet they strive mightily to subvert Christianity to their cause. They will lose, of course, but they do tremendous damage to those who are seeking Christ.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 06:44 AM (IBQGV)
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Failed gaming site Kotaku under new management is now publishing articles on how to fight ICE.
Meet the new boss, same as old boss.
Meet the new boss, same as old boss.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2025 06:45 AM (KKFz5)
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Eh. I long ago accepted the fact that when I'm at the hospital undergoing a medical procedure, I'm basically a slab of meat. I let the technicians and doctors do what they do best with little to no complaint from me.
They are usually quite professional and compassionate because they know people are often very scared at the hospital and need reassurance.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 06:42 AM (IBQGV)
This is another thing to think about when considering tattoo content and placement....
They are usually quite professional and compassionate because they know people are often very scared at the hospital and need reassurance.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 06:42 AM (IBQGV)
This is another thing to think about when considering tattoo content and placement....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 06:49 AM (PiwSw)
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I think the new C64, if positioned correctly, can be a great learning computer for kids, and there are a fair number of people who like retro gaming, so if they can create a dev kit that lets people easily build 8-bit games and especially cartridge based 8-bit games that would be awesome.
Imagine owning something tangible?
MTTA.
Imagine owning something tangible?
MTTA.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2025 06:51 AM (XV/Pl)
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23 Speaking of being on tour, Paul McCartney is going to be on the road this year. Presale tickets start on July 15th. If you haven't seen Sir Paul's band, you might want to fix that as he's in his '80s. I never thought much of Wings live or on record, but this band, the one he's been playing live with for close to 25 years now? Holy smokes.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
cool
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 05:48 AM (NXz8h)
cool
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 06:51 AM (aURVT)
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Mornin'
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 13, 2025 07:01 AM (uGaBv)
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They wrote the pilot. I'm not sure they wrote much for it after that. But the writing and production staff were brilliant too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:23 AM (omVj0)
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Grok claims Brooks co-wrote three episodes (all in the first season) and Henry ten, one of which they shared (the pilot).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:23 AM (omVj0)
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Grok claims Brooks co-wrote three episodes (all in the first season) and Henry ten, one of which they shared (the pilot).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 13, 2025 07:08 AM (EwTaA)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 07:11 AM (PiwSw)
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That price for the Commodore is MUCH less than I paid for my 64 in 1982.
When you figure in inflation, it's a real bargain.
When you figure in inflation, it's a real bargain.
Posted by: Linda S Fox at July 13, 2025 07:12 AM (8sSRd)
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Wolfus,
One thing is you'll get a chance to check out some pretty girls.
Lat time I went under there was a young, mildly tattooed girl with a classic Mickey Mouse T shirt on under her jacket. I figured she thought I was just some old guy flirting but somehow we started talking about music and she told me she was so jealous of my generation because of all the great music we had. She said all we have is trash. It sucks.
She even knew the early lead singer's name for Tower of Power.
One thing is you'll get a chance to check out some pretty girls.
Lat time I went under there was a young, mildly tattooed girl with a classic Mickey Mouse T shirt on under her jacket. I figured she thought I was just some old guy flirting but somehow we started talking about music and she told me she was so jealous of my generation because of all the great music we had. She said all we have is trash. It sucks.
She even knew the early lead singer's name for Tower of Power.
Posted by: pawn at July 13, 2025 07:12 AM (QB+5g)
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Edward Platt as the Chief was an outstanding straight man for Don Adams in the show.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 13, 2025 07:12 AM (EwTaA)
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Adjusted for inflation, the C64 was $1,666 when it was introduced.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2025 07:20 AM (XV/Pl)
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she told me she was so jealous of my generation because of all the great music we had. She said all we have is trash. It sucks. She even knew the early lead singer's name for Tower of Power.
Posted by: pawn
Fire It Up Tour 2013
Joe Cocker & Friends
Cologne , Germany
https://youtu.be/1Lwg0ZlPTJA
I think this was his last tour before passing in December 2014. Mr. Cocker was one of the pinnacle performers of what will be the most enduring music of the 20th century centuries from now. The performance of him and the band in this concert is as good as it gets.
Posted by: pawn
Fire It Up Tour 2013
Joe Cocker & Friends
Cologne , Germany
https://youtu.be/1Lwg0ZlPTJA
I think this was his last tour before passing in December 2014. Mr. Cocker was one of the pinnacle performers of what will be the most enduring music of the 20th century centuries from now. The performance of him and the band in this concert is as good as it gets.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 07:24 AM (NXz8h)
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One readon the 1980's were great is I got a job and they put an IBM XT on my desk. I was so happy, playing solitare and occasionaly doing something productive.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 13, 2025 07:25 AM (/rzkq)
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mornin yall. We can't get the truth on Thomas Crooks or Jeffery Epstein but if you want to know who makes Megan Markle's jam then the media is all over it.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:26 AM (vFG9F)
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And it comes with a 64GB USB drive full of software and demos, the equivalent of about half a million floppy disks.
If it comes with Elite, it might be worth it.
https://youtu.be/9niAuBbWNGw
If it comes with Elite, it might be worth it.
https://youtu.be/9niAuBbWNGw
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 13, 2025 07:28 AM (i24o9)
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Prayers for you and your medical team, Wolfus
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 07:28 AM (sT/8C)
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I didn't spend much time with Commodores. At the time I was in the CP/M world and the C64 was considered to be a toy. I suppose it still is.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:30 AM (vFG9F)
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What if I just want to briefly nudge a prairie dog?
Posted by: banana Dream at July 13, 2025 07:31 AM (cduTK)
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What if I just want to briefly nudge a prairie dog?
Posted by: banana Dream
A .223 works well for that. Granted, my definition of nudge is likely more expansive than is typical.
Posted by: banana Dream
A .223 works well for that. Granted, my definition of nudge is likely more expansive than is typical.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 07:34 AM (NXz8h)
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"the first recorded death from pneumonic plague since 2007"
Modern anti-biotics will handle this easily. And by "modern" I mean cutting edge stuff from 40 years ago.
Modern anti-biotics will handle this easily. And by "modern" I mean cutting edge stuff from 40 years ago.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 13, 2025 07:39 AM (1hM1d)
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Another fucking worthless birthday staring into the Abyss and wondering why i dont walk out into the surf, or traffic, or whatever.
Does 24 hours of vodka count as intermittent fasting?
Another fucking worthless birthday staring into the Abyss and wondering why i dont walk out into the surf, or traffic, or whatever.
Does 24 hours of vodka count as intermittent fasting?
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 13, 2025 07:41 AM (1yfci)
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Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 13, 2025 07:41 AM
I'm sorry that you're depressed. I don't recognize your handle . If I did I would say that you are appreciated here and if you've expressed your troubles here before someone had expressed their concern and prayed for you.
I'm sorry that you're depressed. I don't recognize your handle . If I did I would say that you are appreciated here and if you've expressed your troubles here before someone had expressed their concern and prayed for you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 07:46 AM (2GCMq)
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In Vino, there were years when my birthday would be a day of tears for me. But God never gave up on me.
Hugs.
It can get better if you let Him lead.
Hugs.
It can get better if you let Him lead.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 07:48 AM (FMHbV)
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And, In Vino- here is a 24 hotline number you can call for prayer and a place to vent . It is from the Billy Graham evangelistic Group:
Call toll-free 855-255-7729, anytime day or night
If you're not a person of religious faith please find a number for a suicide hotline in your state. There are caring people around who care about you.
Call toll-free 855-255-7729, anytime day or night
If you're not a person of religious faith please find a number for a suicide hotline in your state. There are caring people around who care about you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 07:54 AM (2GCMq)
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Morning Horde. Anyone have any advise on how to get Apple to recognize my password change? It's been 4 weeks with zero help beyond watch for an email that we've verified that you're who you say your are.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 07:56 AM (2NHgQ)
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What's wrong with Commodores?
Posted by: Lionel Richie at July 13, 2025 07:58 AM (ycs3a)
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Your password your iphone?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 07:58 AM (sT/8C)
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75 What's wrong with Commodores?
Posted by: Lionel Richie at July 13, 2025 07:58 AM (ycs3a)
Yeah!
Posted by: Lionel Richie at July 13, 2025 07:58 AM (ycs3a)
Yeah!
Posted by: Matthew Perrry (no, not the Friends guy) at July 13, 2025 07:59 AM (PiwSw)
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"... if you want to know who makes Megan Markle's jam ..."
is that what the young people are calling it these days?
G'mornin' everybody!
is that what the young people are calling it these days?
G'mornin' everybody!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 08:00 AM (dKEEs)
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Morning Horde. Anyone have any advise on how to get Apple to recognize my password change? It's been 4 weeks with zero help beyond watch for an email that we've verified that you're who you say your are. Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
Book a support appointment at an Apple store? That won't fly if you hundreds of miles from a store, obviously. So many unknowns here make it difficult to advise but try changing the password again? Guessing that has been done.
Book a support appointment at an Apple store? That won't fly if you hundreds of miles from a store, obviously. So many unknowns here make it difficult to advise but try changing the password again? Guessing that has been done.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 08:02 AM (NXz8h)
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Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 13, 2025 08:02 AM (XQo4F)
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I don't know if the prairie dog village still exists, but in the summer of 1979 there was one such village on I-80 somewhere in Nevada. I was on summer leave with a fellow cadet and I had a new car, so we drove from NY to his father's home in San Francisco. I had to return to West Point in a couple of weeks to be cadre for the incoming class of 1983.
It was a pretty big prairie dog infestation; maybe there were several such villages along the interstate. Be that as it may, small animals and roads result in roadkill. We noticed that some prairie dogs were attempting to pull the dead off the traffic lanes and thought that was perhaps the mates of the dead trying to save their mate (thinking they might still be alive).
I'm not entirely heartless and attempted to miss the little bastards after we saw that, since I was the one driving in that stretch.
(continues...)
It was a pretty big prairie dog infestation; maybe there were several such villages along the interstate. Be that as it may, small animals and roads result in roadkill. We noticed that some prairie dogs were attempting to pull the dead off the traffic lanes and thought that was perhaps the mates of the dead trying to save their mate (thinking they might still be alive).
I'm not entirely heartless and attempted to miss the little bastards after we saw that, since I was the one driving in that stretch.
(continues...)
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 13, 2025 08:02 AM (oyXgq)
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"Seriously, do not touch the prairie dogs. (CNN)
Do not."
They're not listening, Pixy. This woman adopted one as a pet:
https://youtu.be/AFO1LiyGRlc
Do not."
They're not listening, Pixy. This woman adopted one as a pet:
https://youtu.be/AFO1LiyGRlc
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 13, 2025 08:03 AM (O7YUW)
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Lol, I just read Denver is planning a new stadium for the Broncos... the current one is less than 25 years old and it's in fine condition, in a city with serious problems the money could be better spent addressing.
More to the point, it was built against the wishes of the citizens, who only caved in after being held hostage by the rancid Pat Bowlen, who had a temper tantrum and threatened to move the team if he didn't get his shiny thing.
Now a new shakedown begins.
More to the point, it was built against the wishes of the citizens, who only caved in after being held hostage by the rancid Pat Bowlen, who had a temper tantrum and threatened to move the team if he didn't get his shiny thing.
Now a new shakedown begins.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2025 08:04 AM (BI5O2)
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you want to know who makes Megan Markle's jam ...
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If it has anything to do with sitting on something, I am not interested...
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If it has anything to do with sitting on something, I am not interested...
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 13, 2025 08:05 AM (ycs3a)
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One thing is you'll get a chance to check out some pretty girls. . . .
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In a hospital? In *Lousy-ana*? Somehow I doubt it. The nurses at the surgical care center (which is what this is, "same day" surgery) all looked like they ought to be on a Jardiance or Wegovy commercial. They were nice, but they were not attractive to me.
Posted by: pawn at July 13, 2025
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In a hospital? In *Lousy-ana*? Somehow I doubt it. The nurses at the surgical care center (which is what this is, "same day" surgery) all looked like they ought to be on a Jardiance or Wegovy commercial. They were nice, but they were not attractive to me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:06 AM (omVj0)
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More to the point, it was built against the wishes of the citizens, who only caved in after being held hostage by the rancid Pat Bowlen, who had a temper tantrum and threatened to move the team if he didn't get his shiny thing.
Now a new shakedown begins.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2025 08:04 AM (BI5O2)
Charlotte did that a few years ago, same situation, including going against a ( non-binding ) citizen vote.
Now a new shakedown begins.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2025 08:04 AM (BI5O2)
Charlotte did that a few years ago, same situation, including going against a ( non-binding ) citizen vote.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 08:06 AM (PiwSw)
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Back in the day, my friends got the Commodores while I got the TI 99/4a after TI abandoned the home computer market.
But I loved my TI.
But I loved my TI.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 13, 2025 08:07 AM (YxG/6)
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"the first recorded death from pneumonic plague since 2007"
Modern anti-biotics will handle this easily. And by "modern" I mean cutting edge stuff from 40 years ago.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 13, 2025
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But will a recent medical school graduate *recognize* what it is in time to administer the antibiotics?
Modern anti-biotics will handle this easily. And by "modern" I mean cutting edge stuff from 40 years ago.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 13, 2025
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But will a recent medical school graduate *recognize* what it is in time to administer the antibiotics?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:07 AM (omVj0)
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In a hospital? In *Lousy-ana*? Somehow I doubt it. The nurses at the surgical care center (which is what this is, "same day" surgery) all looked like they ought to be on a Jardiance or Wegovy commercial. They were nice, but they were not attractive to me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:06 AM (omVj0)
I always find the prevalence of the "morbidly obese healthcare worker" fascinating.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:06 AM (omVj0)
I always find the prevalence of the "morbidly obese healthcare worker" fascinating.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 08:08 AM (PiwSw)
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Wolfus,
Hope everything goes well for you in surgery. Take it easy, and if you're going to be laid up for more than the day of surgery, bring plenty of reading material.
Hope everything goes well for you in surgery. Take it easy, and if you're going to be laid up for more than the day of surgery, bring plenty of reading material.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025 08:08 AM (q3u5l)
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What's wrong with Commodores?
Posted by: Lionel Richie at July 13, 2025
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I could ask the same question.
Posted by: Lionel Richie at July 13, 2025
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I could ask the same question.
Posted by: Matt Decker at July 13, 2025 08:09 AM (omVj0)
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I always find the prevalence of the "morbidly obese healthcare worker" fascinating.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 08:08 AM (PiwSw)
I had a girl like that last week. She had difficulty walking. Can't understand that.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 08:08 AM (PiwSw)
I had a girl like that last week. She had difficulty walking. Can't understand that.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025 08:10 AM (SfhV1)
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I always find the prevalence of the "morbidly obese healthcare worker" fascinating.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 08:08 AM (PiwSw)
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I did find it hard to take health advice from a doctor who looked like Humpty Dumpty.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 13, 2025 08:08 AM (PiwSw)
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I did find it hard to take health advice from a doctor who looked like Humpty Dumpty.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 13, 2025 08:10 AM (IBQGV)
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OK, had my first cup of coffee and I'm now semi coherent. Changed my Apple id password. No longer have access to update my iPhone or iPad, cannot access my iTunes or my online account. Locked out of everything Apple. And yes an Apple Store is a long way away.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 08:11 AM (2NHgQ)
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Hope everything goes well for you in surgery. Take it easy, and if you're going to be laid up for more than the day of surgery, bring plenty of reading material.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025
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Thanks, JSG! I'll be back home by late morning tomorrow, so I'll have my latest library books and also some things on my shelves I haven't re-read in years.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 13, 2025
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Thanks, JSG! I'll be back home by late morning tomorrow, so I'll have my latest library books and also some things on my shelves I haven't re-read in years.
Posted by: Matt Decker at July 13, 2025 08:12 AM (omVj0)
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Morning Horde. Anyone have any advise on how to get Apple to recognize my password change? It's been 4 weeks with zero help beyond watch for an email that we've verified that you're who you say your are. Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
Book a support appointment at an Apple store? That won't fly if you hundreds of miles from a store, obviously. So many unknowns here make it difficult to advise but try changing the password again? Guessing that has been done.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
What a pain in the ass. My MIC issued iPhone decided to not recognize my pw change. Wouldn't accept anything. Now it's reset itself, but without any cell service.
Book a support appointment at an Apple store? That won't fly if you hundreds of miles from a store, obviously. So many unknowns here make it difficult to advise but try changing the password again? Guessing that has been done.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
What a pain in the ass. My MIC issued iPhone decided to not recognize my pw change. Wouldn't accept anything. Now it's reset itself, but without any cell service.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 13, 2025 08:12 AM (QcUc+)
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Oops, didn't change the nic!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:13 AM (omVj0)
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(continuation...)
The cadet I was with looked more closely at such attempts and commented that they weren't pulling mates off the road but were pulling food off the road; they were cannibal little bastards. After we figured that out, I tried to run over any prairie dog I saw. Unfortunately, we at the tail end of that group of prairie dog villages.
So he shows me the sights in SF back in the day; pier 39, the Coast Guard unit he served with before he went to USMA, etc. We found a store that sold bumper stickers; one such bumper sticker said "Caution: I speed up to run over small animals."
I bought it and put it on my car, along with my NY state plates and my USMA parking bumper sticker which has the Pallas Athena image on it. It's time for me to drive back along I-80 to get back for the summer influx of new cadets.
(continues...)
The cadet I was with looked more closely at such attempts and commented that they weren't pulling mates off the road but were pulling food off the road; they were cannibal little bastards. After we figured that out, I tried to run over any prairie dog I saw. Unfortunately, we at the tail end of that group of prairie dog villages.
So he shows me the sights in SF back in the day; pier 39, the Coast Guard unit he served with before he went to USMA, etc. We found a store that sold bumper stickers; one such bumper sticker said "Caution: I speed up to run over small animals."
I bought it and put it on my car, along with my NY state plates and my USMA parking bumper sticker which has the Pallas Athena image on it. It's time for me to drive back along I-80 to get back for the summer influx of new cadets.
(continues...)
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 13, 2025 08:16 AM (oyXgq)
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Apple. It just works. Until it doesn't. This class of problems are nightmares.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 08:16 AM (NXz8h)
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Back in the day, I was the King of the home computer entertainment market. I get no respect I tells ya. No respect!
Posted by: Commodore VIC-20 at July 13, 2025 08:17 AM (R/m4+)
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Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
You were one of the people that wanted an update on my 3-day off road trip.
Day-1, i took a very low speed fall mid stream in a water crossing. Basically slipped on slimy moss in about 8" of clear flowing water. Front wheel caught a diagonal rut and followed it. Broke the left mirror. I was going through it with both feet down like trainin wheel for stability, but when the front wheel followed the rut in the rock, the bike fell on my leg, wrenched the coon dog shit out of my knee. Quads are swollen, sore, and can barely hold my weight when standing. I decided the prudent th___ to do was cut the trip short and come home, skipp___ the planned days 2 and 3.
If it had been just the mirror and not my knee too, i would still be out ther finishing day 3. Can't lift the bike if i dropped it again. Glad the guy that lived there was able to help me stand it back up.
You were one of the people that wanted an update on my 3-day off road trip.
Day-1, i took a very low speed fall mid stream in a water crossing. Basically slipped on slimy moss in about 8" of clear flowing water. Front wheel caught a diagonal rut and followed it. Broke the left mirror. I was going through it with both feet down like trainin wheel for stability, but when the front wheel followed the rut in the rock, the bike fell on my leg, wrenched the coon dog shit out of my knee. Quads are swollen, sore, and can barely hold my weight when standing. I decided the prudent th___ to do was cut the trip short and come home, skipp___ the planned days 2 and 3.
If it had been just the mirror and not my knee too, i would still be out ther finishing day 3. Can't lift the bike if i dropped it again. Glad the guy that lived there was able to help me stand it back up.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 13, 2025 08:18 AM (QcUc+)
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Good morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:19 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:20 AM (omVj0)
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Village Idiot's Apprentice
Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.
Hope your fair city is now out of news.
Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.
Hope your fair city is now out of news.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:21 AM (u82oZ)
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Bif, I'm sorry to hear about the accident.
Is Pixy censoring the letters "ing"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I'll live, it just makes me meaner if it doesn't kill me.
No, Pixy isn't censoring "ing". I don't run with auto spell check, commamdo so to speak. One of my common typos is IMG.
Is Pixy censoring the letters "ing"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I'll live, it just makes me meaner if it doesn't kill me.
No, Pixy isn't censoring "ing". I don't run with auto spell check, commamdo so to speak. One of my common typos is IMG.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 13, 2025 08:23 AM (QcUc+)
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Most federal land out west is infested with prairie dogs.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 13, 2025 08:24 AM (dR6yv)
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Salty, have you ever been to Dodge City? Is it worth the trip?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 08:24 AM (NXz8h)
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No longer have access to update my iPhone or iPad,
When updating, the password it’s usually (always?) asking for is not the Apple ID password but the device’s lock code. That is, the same password used to unlock the iPhone/iPad.
When updating, the password it’s usually (always?) asking for is not the Apple ID password but the device’s lock code. That is, the same password used to unlock the iPhone/iPad.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 13, 2025 08:25 AM (EXyHK)
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The NFL prints money. Expect to see Denver getting a SB for their new stadium.
I view it as Keynesian hole digging
I view it as Keynesian hole digging
Posted by: Accomack at July 13, 2025 08:25 AM (tLPHV)
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37 Get Smart *worked* because it did not try to graft bumbling comedy onto a relatively realistic TV world.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:29 AM (omVj0)
Good critique.
I suppose an actor is either lucky or cursed (or both) to land a role that suits him as perfectly as Maxwell Smart suited Don Adams.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 06:29 AM (omVj0)
Good critique.
I suppose an actor is either lucky or cursed (or both) to land a role that suits him as perfectly as Maxwell Smart suited Don Adams.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025 08:25 AM (WHfpM)
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106 Most federal land out west is infested with prairie dogs.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 13, 2025
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And then there are the rodents.
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And then there are the rodents.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:26 AM (omVj0)
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{{{ grammie winger }}}
Are memories of the riots gone? Is there a memorial to Kyle Rittenhouse at a local range?
And a respectful tip of the hat to the Rev.
Are memories of the riots gone? Is there a memorial to Kyle Rittenhouse at a local range?
And a respectful tip of the hat to the Rev.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:26 AM (u82oZ)
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My dad had a collection of slides of prairie dogs... he must have had 50 of them. He took them in the mid 60's when I was just a child while we vacationesd in the Black Hills of SD. It became a running joke amongst the kids since then.
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 13, 2025 08:27 AM (ycs3a)
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New Mexico has a few plague and hantavirus deaths each year. The most common way to get it is you get a bunch of rodents living in and around your house. Given how a number of people live here in New Mexico, I am kind of surprised this isn't a bigger deal.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 08:28 AM (NXz8h)
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Goodmorning, upstanding citizens of this magnificent nation on a typically rainy weekend--for this year, anyway. The lush vegetation is no doubt grateful.
As usual, may all effort by you result in maximal benefits and corresponding heartburn for the leftwit fungi.
As usual, may all effort by you result in maximal benefits and corresponding heartburn for the leftwit fungi.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 13, 2025 08:28 AM (hKoQL)
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I suppose an actor is either lucky or cursed (or both) to land a role that suits him as perfectly as Maxwell Smart suited Don Adams.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025
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His hotel detective Glick on the Bill Dana Show was very much the same sort of character, I think. He said he'd developed the "Glick voice" (nasal and incisive) off of Ronald Colman's performances in much older movies, and then used it again as Max.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025
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His hotel detective Glick on the Bill Dana Show was very much the same sort of character, I think. He said he'd developed the "Glick voice" (nasal and incisive) off of Ronald Colman's performances in much older movies, and then used it again as Max.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:28 AM (omVj0)
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Stephen Price Blair. I don't use a lock code unless I'm travelling. One of the prompts was what's your unlock code. I may have to travel to the big burg of Bozeman MT to get help.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 08:29 AM (2NHgQ)
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Are memories of the riots gone? Is there a memorial to Kyle Rittenhouse at a local range?
And a respectful tip of the hat to the Rev.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:26 AM (u82oZ)
There are a few scorched spots left, but one of the restaurants that was targeted recently re-opened. I don't think Kyle has been around. If he has, he's kept a low profile.
And a respectful tip of the hat to the Rev.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:26 AM (u82oZ)
There are a few scorched spots left, but one of the restaurants that was targeted recently re-opened. I don't think Kyle has been around. If he has, he's kept a low profile.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025 08:30 AM (SfhV1)
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There are a few scorched spots left, but one of the restaurants that was targeted recently re-opened. I don't think Kyle [Rittenhouse] has been around. If he has, he's kept a low profile.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025
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If I were him, I'd have moved to a more sensible area, or state, long ago.
There are a few scorched spots left, but one of the restaurants that was targeted recently re-opened. I don't think Kyle [Rittenhouse] has been around. If he has, he's kept a low profile.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025
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If I were him, I'd have moved to a more sensible area, or state, long ago.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:31 AM (omVj0)
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He said he'd developed the "Glick voice" (nasal and incisive) off of Ronald Colman's performances in much older movies, and then used it again as Max.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:28 AM (omVj0)
I recall in one episode he played a foreign prince and fencing master exactly in the mold of Ronald Colman/Sterling Hayden. The character was a lookalike with Max, and they swapped identities as part of the plot.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:28 AM (omVj0)
I recall in one episode he played a foreign prince and fencing master exactly in the mold of Ronald Colman/Sterling Hayden. The character was a lookalike with Max, and they swapped identities as part of the plot.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025 08:31 AM (WHfpM)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 13, 2025 08:31 AM (ST4px)
Posted by: Marcus T at July 13, 2025 08:33 AM (b97Gk)
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If I were him, I'd have moved to a more sensible area, or state, long ago.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:31 AM (omVj0)
I know. It's not like there's anything in Kenosha that's worth the visit.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:31 AM (omVj0)
I know. It's not like there's anything in Kenosha that's worth the visit.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025 08:34 AM (SfhV1)
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I recall in one episode he played a foreign prince and fencing master exactly in the mold of Ronald Colman/Sterling Hayden. The character was a lookalike with Max, and they swapped identities as part of the plot.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025
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I remember that too! A Prisoner of Zenda take-off. I think Johnny Carson had a small role as a footman in it?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025
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I remember that too! A Prisoner of Zenda take-off. I think Johnny Carson had a small role as a footman in it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:34 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 13, 2025 08:34 AM (PNnY7)
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(continuation...)
1979. 55 MPH speed limit. It's in the afternoon and I realize that I am near the prairie dog village complex. The sun's behind me but there other cars (not many) in front of me.
Hah! Speed up to 65, pass everyone who promptly follow me at a distance so the cops pull my ass over instead of theirs. *I'm* looking ahead for prairie dogs, who can't really see me due to the glare of the setting sun. I see a prairie dog ahead, line the car up (lanes be damned), and try to run the little bastard over. Rinse and repeat. I get some and miss others, but anyone following me knows I'm trying to run them over.
After a while, I see that I'm out of the prairie dog village complex. Drop the speed back to 55, sit in the right lane, and watch those who followed me pass by. I'm there with my crew cut (have to look vicious for the new cadets, after all), dog tags hanging out (still wear them, btw) and wave to those who stare at the madman.
//end
1979. 55 MPH speed limit. It's in the afternoon and I realize that I am near the prairie dog village complex. The sun's behind me but there other cars (not many) in front of me.
Hah! Speed up to 65, pass everyone who promptly follow me at a distance so the cops pull my ass over instead of theirs. *I'm* looking ahead for prairie dogs, who can't really see me due to the glare of the setting sun. I see a prairie dog ahead, line the car up (lanes be damned), and try to run the little bastard over. Rinse and repeat. I get some and miss others, but anyone following me knows I'm trying to run them over.
After a while, I see that I'm out of the prairie dog village complex. Drop the speed back to 55, sit in the right lane, and watch those who followed me pass by. I'm there with my crew cut (have to look vicious for the new cadets, after all), dog tags hanging out (still wear them, btw) and wave to those who stare at the madman.
//end
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 13, 2025 08:34 AM (oyXgq)
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“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
Matthew 4:9
Posted by: Marcus T at July 13, 2025 08:33 AM (b97Gk)
Get thee behind Me, Satan. (I know, out of context. Still...)
Matthew 4:9
Posted by: Marcus T at July 13, 2025 08:33 AM (b97Gk)
Get thee behind Me, Satan. (I know, out of context. Still...)
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025 08:35 AM (SfhV1)
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Trying to decide if I am up or not
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 08:35 AM (+qU29)
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I don't use a lock code unless I'm travelling.
When traveling, do you “turn off passcode” or do you just tell the phone to “never” lock? The latter is much easier. But it does leave the passcode in place for security-conscious tasks such as updating the operating system.
When traveling, do you “turn off passcode” or do you just tell the phone to “never” lock? The latter is much easier. But it does leave the passcode in place for security-conscious tasks such as updating the operating system.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 13, 2025 08:36 AM (EXyHK)
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Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions
I have been to Dodge City, but not as a tourist. It seems interesting, but not enough for a separate trip. Lucas, with the Garden of Eden art, and the local art stores was of more interest to me.
I had a good friend that was a Republican Congressman's staffer. He was set up by the Deep State, and railroaded by the State of Kansas. He spent time in the jail at Dodge City. We went to the Court House during his sentencing, and gave a positive character statement.
I learned to distrust the entire justice system from that episode.
I have been to Dodge City, but not as a tourist. It seems interesting, but not enough for a separate trip. Lucas, with the Garden of Eden art, and the local art stores was of more interest to me.
I had a good friend that was a Republican Congressman's staffer. He was set up by the Deep State, and railroaded by the State of Kansas. He spent time in the jail at Dodge City. We went to the Court House during his sentencing, and gave a positive character statement.
I learned to distrust the entire justice system from that episode.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:38 AM (u82oZ)
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Stephen I'm fairly certain turn off passcode. Thanks for the advice, I'll try the passcode option.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 08:40 AM (2NHgQ)
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Bill Dana stopped playing Jose Jimenez a few years after his sitcom. He had a role as a hapless used-car salesman in one of the worst "campy" episodes of U.N.C.L.E., one that tried to be a riff on The Maltese Falcon -- hideous stuff.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:40 AM (omVj0)
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Given the political environment at the time of Kyle's trial, it is a miracle that he was acquitted. I remember that couple in Minnesota who did not do anything but stand outside their house protecting their property when BLM mobs broke into a private community, who were not so lucky.
Posted by: runner at July 13, 2025 08:41 AM (g47mK)
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I remember that too! A Prisoner of Zenda take-off. I think Johnny Carson had a small role as a footman in it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:34 AM (omVj0)
Yes. And I meant Stewart Granger, not Sterling Hayden. I get those two confused. To make it more confusing, there's Farley Granger.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:34 AM (omVj0)
Yes. And I meant Stewart Granger, not Sterling Hayden. I get those two confused. To make it more confusing, there's Farley Granger.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 13, 2025 08:42 AM (WHfpM)
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As far as I can tell Samsung Galaxy cannot turn off passcode
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 08:42 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 13, 2025 08:42 AM (qBdHI)
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Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions
He just got married to a great woman, has a new, better job, and is thriving. He had me over for dinner last night, and we watched a movie I had never heard of (which is not unusual) called Death Becomes Her.
The end message that eternal life is through children and grandchildren was a good ending.
He just got married to a great woman, has a new, better job, and is thriving. He had me over for dinner last night, and we watched a movie I had never heard of (which is not unusual) called Death Becomes Her.
The end message that eternal life is through children and grandchildren was a good ending.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:43 AM (u82oZ)
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I posted a video of my fall on ewe too. 1 minute long.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sl1KOEHz2sY
I posted a video of my fall on ewe too. 1 minute long.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sl1KOEHz2sY
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 13, 2025 08:45 AM (QcUc+)
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I have a prayer request please - well, two actually . First, please pray for the poster in post 70 who is very depressed- that rough places may be made smooth for them.
Second- I am going to a picnic with a fairly large of conservative people later today. I am the designated pray-er when really anyone of faith could do this. 😊. Anyway, anytime we have this picnic people knock over the signs advertising it. They have also gone over to the park and put down rude sayings outside the area we have it, original, thoughtful sayings such as " Nazis " or " Go eff yourselves"
A policeman makes his rounds but if given the current political climate I am asking for prayer for safety for all attending . The picnic is from 2-5 EST
Thanks very much .
Second- I am going to a picnic with a fairly large of conservative people later today. I am the designated pray-er when really anyone of faith could do this. 😊. Anyway, anytime we have this picnic people knock over the signs advertising it. They have also gone over to the park and put down rude sayings outside the area we have it, original, thoughtful sayings such as " Nazis " or " Go eff yourselves"
A policeman makes his rounds but if given the current political climate I am asking for prayer for safety for all attending . The picnic is from 2-5 EST
Thanks very much .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 08:46 AM (2GCMq)
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Don Adams discusses his preferred funeral plan
https://tinyurl.com/sx45cbcz
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That was funny!
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 13, 2025
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He did a lot of standup comedy in his early days.
https://tinyurl.com/sx45cbcz
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That was funny!
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 13, 2025
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He did a lot of standup comedy in his early days.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 08:47 AM (omVj0)
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Fenelon - of course.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 13, 2025 08:47 AM (SfhV1)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:48 AM (u82oZ)
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"Does 24 hours of vodka count as intermittent fasting?"
After a while, you may or may not figure out that much vodka just makes you hung over with a ripping headache (assuming you stopping drinking due to sleep/pass out) while whatever drove you to drink that much is still there.
Been there, done that (smoking and vodka). Took 2 times to stop the smoking, took 2 times to stop the "you could drown me in a bathtub and I wouldn't know" level of vodka intake. The vodka bit required me to believe that I really wanted to live.
I hope you decide that for yourself.
After a while, you may or may not figure out that much vodka just makes you hung over with a ripping headache (assuming you stopping drinking due to sleep/pass out) while whatever drove you to drink that much is still there.
Been there, done that (smoking and vodka). Took 2 times to stop the smoking, took 2 times to stop the "you could drown me in a bathtub and I wouldn't know" level of vodka intake. The vodka bit required me to believe that I really wanted to live.
I hope you decide that for yourself.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 13, 2025 08:50 AM (oyXgq)
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FenelonSpoke
Prayers for safety ascending. And may the thought of some of those Americans following the Second Amendment deter the evil around us.
Prayers for safety ascending. And may the thought of some of those Americans following the Second Amendment deter the evil around us.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:50 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 13, 2025 08:50 AM (dKEEs)
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@138/BifBewalski: "I posted a video of my fall on ewe too. 1 minute long."
Ouch. This has given me an all new appreciation of the advice, "Do not drive through water if at all possible. The surface reflection hides dangers you might need to know are there."
May your knee recover quickly and may you regain full function, Bif.
Ouch. This has given me an all new appreciation of the advice, "Do not drive through water if at all possible. The surface reflection hides dangers you might need to know are there."
May your knee recover quickly and may you regain full function, Bif.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 13, 2025 08:54 AM (O7YUW)
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Yikes. Were you OK? And how did you get the wheel back on.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Bruised and sore, wheel remained on the bike. The rut just grabbed it and said come hence. Down i went. The guy that helped me stand it back up said that mossy crossing gets maybe 300 riders every summer. Said he has a game camera and posts it to Facebook. Lat/Lon are in the video clip. At least i was able to get about 105 of the day's planned 115 miles in.
The rock was so slippery, i almost couldn't stand. Don't know how i would have dragged it out of the creek with it so slippery without help.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Bruised and sore, wheel remained on the bike. The rut just grabbed it and said come hence. Down i went. The guy that helped me stand it back up said that mossy crossing gets maybe 300 riders every summer. Said he has a game camera and posts it to Facebook. Lat/Lon are in the video clip. At least i was able to get about 105 of the day's planned 115 miles in.
The rock was so slippery, i almost couldn't stand. Don't know how i would have dragged it out of the creek with it so slippery without help.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 13, 2025 08:57 AM (QcUc+)
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In Vino Veritits
We chose our own path daily.
I want you to know that there are caring people here that want you to recover. It will be a hard, but possible path to follow. Faith and technology can help.
We live in a time of marvels, with excitement every day. New technology like Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) looks promising for treating depression.
We chose our own path daily.
I want you to know that there are caring people here that want you to recover. It will be a hard, but possible path to follow. Faith and technology can help.
We live in a time of marvels, with excitement every day. New technology like Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) looks promising for treating depression.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 13, 2025 08:58 AM (u82oZ)
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One of the prompts was what's your unlock code. I may have to travel to the big burg of Bozeman MT to get help.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
One of the apple quirks I learned last time I upgraded my iphone is that I need to have a device passcode set on the old phone
I also need to know my apple icloud password
So which one did you change?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
One of the apple quirks I learned last time I upgraded my iphone is that I need to have a device passcode set on the old phone
I also need to know my apple icloud password
So which one did you change?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 08:59 AM (sT/8C)
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vmom, the password
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (2NHgQ)
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Books nood.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 13, 2025 09:03 AM (NcvvS)
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One year ago today. Imagine how different the world would look.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 09:03 AM (viF8m)
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Noodus biblioteca
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:03 AM (omVj0)
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Thanks for the prayers, all ,and yes, we will have people who do have their concealed carry..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 13, 2025 09:14 AM (8JBl9)
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I never thought much of Wings live or on record, but this band, the one he's been playing live with for close to 25 years now? Holy smokes.
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He was in another band before that, too wasn’t he?
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He was in another band before that, too wasn’t he?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 13, 2025 09:15 AM (+DQk7)
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Sssssssss
Posted by: The Slow Newsday Gorn at July 13, 2025 09:28 AM (ptgc5)
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82 "Seriously, do not touch the prairie dogs. (CNN)
Do not."
They're not listening, Pixy. This woman adopted one as a pet:
https://youtu.be/AFO1LiyGRlc
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 13, 2025 08:03 AM (O7YUW)
Wow. I stopped watching when I saw the tat display.
Do not."
They're not listening, Pixy. This woman adopted one as a pet:
https://youtu.be/AFO1LiyGRlc
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 13, 2025 08:03 AM (O7YUW)
Wow. I stopped watching when I saw the tat display.
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 09:45 AM (aURVT)
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vmom, the password
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (2NHgQ)
Can you sign into your iCloud account with the new password?
If you can, this is what I would do:
Put a device passcode on your phone, make sure it works.
Try backing up your iPhone to your iCloud account. If that works, it proves they recognize each other
Try doing the software update on the phone if the above proceeds ok
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 13, 2025 09:01 AM (2NHgQ)
Can you sign into your iCloud account with the new password?
If you can, this is what I would do:
Put a device passcode on your phone, make sure it works.
Try backing up your iPhone to your iCloud account. If that works, it proves they recognize each other
Try doing the software update on the phone if the above proceeds ok
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 13, 2025 10:18 AM (fgzLP)
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Thanks for the posting on the Commodore 64 update. I remember it well!
Now, if only Atari would come out with an updated version of the ST, my happiness would be complete. I loved that machine, not least for the fact that it didn't have an MMU, which let me do pretty much anything I wanted, such as redirecting video memory to the heap so I could run a sort and watch memory being allocated and freed. In those pre-Internet days, hacking your own machine was a blast.
Now, if only Atari would come out with an updated version of the ST, my happiness would be complete. I loved that machine, not least for the fact that it didn't have an MMU, which let me do pretty much anything I wanted, such as redirecting video memory to the heap so I could run a sort and watch memory being allocated and freed. In those pre-Internet days, hacking your own machine was a blast.
Posted by: Nemo at July 13, 2025 11:01 AM (4RPgu)
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I still have a VideoToaster in an Amiga 2000 with monitor, mouse and keyboard. Used it 30 years ago (:-O) to make local commercials for cable TV. I fired it up three years ago and it works!
Posted by: Mrs Whatsit at July 13, 2025 11:30 AM (RHDfl)
Saturday Night "Club ONT" July 12, 2025 [The 3 Ds]
Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies A man walks into a bar, then goes to the bathroom. He comes out, goes to the bartender. He says, “You’ve got a great place, but my buddy was here last night, and he said you have golden urinals. Where are they?” The bartender turns to the band and yells, “Frank, I’ve got a lead on the guy who ruined your sax!” ----- One evening after the honeymoon, Bob was working on his Harley in the garage. His new wife was standing there by the bench watching him. After a long period of silence she finally said, "Honey, I've just been thinking, now that we're married, maybe it's time you quit spending so much of your time out here in the garage. You probably should consider selling your Harley and all that welding equipment; they take up so much of your time. And that gun collection and fishing gear, they just take up so much space. And you know that boat is such an ongoing expense and you hardly use it. I also think you should lose all those stupid model airplanes and your home brewing equipment. And what's the use of that vintage hot rod sports car?" Bob got a horrified look on his face. She noticed and said, "Darling, what's wrong?” He replied, "You were starting to sound like my ex-wife.” "Ex-wife!?" she shouted, "YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU WERE MARRIED BEFORE!” Bob replied, "I wasn't..." -----
Drink of the Night Texas Ranch Water
3 oz. blanco tequila
1 1/2 oz. fresh lime juice
Seltzer (Topo Chico suggested), chilled
Ice
Fresh lime wedge for garnish Directions
Add ice to glass
Add tequila and juice
Top with seltzer water
Add fresh lime wedge to garnish
Enjoy!
Club ONT Requests
For 10 glorious days (July 11-20 this year), registered participants can try to catch as many gigantic danger noodles as possible. The person who nabs the most snakes wins $10,000, which might cover your bug spray bill and therapy copay.Dynamite. Which one of you did this? Definitely a Moron. Cannot quote the whole thing. Very worth the click and read.
"Sir, I pulled you over because I saw something shiny in your car. Did you have your phone in your hand and on?" an officer would ask another driver. "Goodness no. I'm a law-abiding citizen and I know that's not legal. I was lighting up some unregulated explosives." "I'm sorry, you did what now?" "Yeah, I was trying to read this new book. It's something about driving dummies. Anyway, I thought I was lighting up a road flare to give me some light, but turns out that stuff I stole from the construction site was actually dynamite. And just between me you and the fencepost over there, FYI, I would totally avoid that bridge we just drove over if you go back the other way. Long fuse on that dynamite but it's definitely going to go off here in a second."
Bro started dancing like he was 70 years younger. pic.twitter.com/mAN5Q6OieT
— Fight With Memes (@FightWithMemes) June 30, 2025
Over the past two centuries, humans have quietly nudged the very axis of our planet. As thousands of dams have been built across the world, Earth's poles have tilted by over 1 meter (3 feet). The movement of Earth's poles can be traced to two great waves of dam construction: first in North America and Europe during the 19th and early 20th centuries, and then across Asia and East Africa in the latter half of the 20th century. It's all to do with mass distribution and the planet's moment of inertia. Earth will happily spin like a basketball twirling on a fingertip, but if mass is suddenly added to one region, the rotation starts to wobble.
On July 9, 2025, Earth spun a little faster than usual, enough to make the day about 1.3 to 1.6 milliseconds shorter than the standard 24 hours. That may not sound like much, but it was the shortest day since modern records began. It's not a one-off either. Scientists expect two more short days this summer, on July 22 and Aug. 5, all thanks, in part, to the moon. Earth doesn't rotate at a perfectly constant speed. While we define a day as 24 hours, in reality, the length of a day can vary slightly from one day to the next due to both internal and external forces acting on the planet. Over long timescales, Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down, largely because of tidal friction from the moon. The moon's gravity pulls on Earth's oceans, creating tidal bulges that act like a brake. This adds about 2 milliseconds to the length of a day every century. But over shorter timescales, days to months, Earth's spin can actually speed up and that's what happened on July 9, and will also happen on July 22 and Aug. 5.
AI-generated Psych-rock band The Velvet Sundown didn’t exist two weeks ago, but today they boast over half a million listeners on Spotify and are getting to put out their third album. The Velvet Sundown is either the hardest-working and most inspired rock group ever, or they are simply playing by different rules. The psych-rock band appeared out of nowhere two weeks ago, but managed to put out to albums and has already announced that the third will be released on Spotify soon. They already boast a respectable 500,000 monthly listeners on the popular music streaming platform and show no signs of slowing down. But the overnight success and record-breaking album release schedule drew attention to the band this week, with many accusing The Velvet Sundown of being an AI-generated gimmick. And, truth be told, all the signs point to that being the case.Club ONT is 100% opposite of an AI experience. We prefer natural stupidity.
Top 10ish Comments of the Week. Or thereabout...
Club ONT brought to you by: Country hospitality and fresh scents.
— jeFFF 𝔅ℜownS†ar 𝔊/𝓪𝓬𝓬 (@cdotminus) June 29, 2025
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
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Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (cYBz/)
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Skinny CAN o to hell! Ola Horde!
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (hftn9)
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Evening all!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (vcPNM)
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Evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (+qU29)
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Yay, another Saturday night!
Posted by: Final Arbiter ( sorry, no reality left) at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (1UudH)
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This could be the greatest ONT ever!
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
It has as good a chance as any.
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
It has as good a chance as any.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (0eaVi)
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Bro started dancing like he was 70 years younger.
This worked well with the sound down and After Midnight playing.
This worked well with the sound down and After Midnight playing.
Posted by: mindful webworker - let what all hang out, now? at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (+kBwA)
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1 This could be the greatest ONT ever!
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
It could be. But we're gonna need some supplies and the girls need to take their socks off.
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
It could be. But we're gonna need some supplies and the girls need to take their socks off.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:06 PM (nyTxL)
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I've read/heard the second joke before but that first one!
I've heard a lot of bar/piss jokes before but never that one.
Still laughing.
I've heard a lot of bar/piss jokes before but never that one.
Still laughing.
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 10:06 PM (gKDq2)
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For any Morons or 'Ettes unsure of their social skills, the TX MoMee - which this year, will be the *tenth* - includes dogs who are terribly deprived and never ever get petted, or played with, or given treats.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 10:06 PM (ULPxl)
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Willowed:
Just got out of Superman.
4/5 stars.
No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.
Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.
There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.
Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
Just got out of Superman.
4/5 stars.
No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.
Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.
There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.
Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (xcxpd)
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Evenin'
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (uGaBv)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (nyTxL)
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Yay, Different Colored Eyes Day ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: browndog with weed, whites and wine at July 12, 2025 10:09 PM (TTAGa)
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This could be the greatest ONT ever!
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh
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The history books will have an entry. I'll head to the storage room and find the karaoke machine.
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh
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The history books will have an entry. I'll head to the storage room and find the karaoke machine.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:09 PM (LVaYG)
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Thanks for the dandy Saturday Night ONT, Disco, Doggo and Dino!
Thanks for the snacks and Mountain Dew too...
Thanks for the snacks and Mountain Dew too...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (kB9dk)
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Great live version of the better version of After Midnight.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (i0F8b)
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Saturday ONT! Yay.
Posted by: QED Texan at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (fveCG)
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I saw on the Windows search bar somebody declared this day or month in favor of someone. Wasn't very memorable, so it could have been boobs, butts, or bratwurst. Nor puppies or platypuses, either. I would have remembered kittens, kids, or kisses.
So, a total waste of time.
So, a total waste of time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (S/Y4j)
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Over the past two centuries, humans have quietly nudged the very axis of our planet.
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omg. DON'T let the climatistas know about this. We'll all have to stand still, like for the Pledge of Allegiance all day.
Over the past two centuries, humans have quietly nudged the very axis of our planet.
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omg. DON'T let the climatistas know about this. We'll all have to stand still, like for the Pledge of Allegiance all day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (lCaJd)
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Was only mid 80s about today, was outside reading all afternoon
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (+qU29)
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And good evening!
And good evening!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (lCaJd)
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Top photo is some place I'd love to hang for an evening!
Top photo is some place I'd love to hang for an evening!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (lCaJd)
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I like the candle!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (vcPNM)
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21 I saw on the Windows search bar somebody declared this day or month in favor of someone. Wasn't very memorable, so it couldnt have been boobs, butts, or bratwurst. Nor puppies or platypuses, either. I would have remembered kittens, kids, or kisses.
So, a total waste of time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (S/Y4j)
Fixed the autocucumber.
So, a total waste of time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (S/Y4j)
Fixed the autocucumber.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (S/Y4j)
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TXMOME X
Posted by: Ben Had at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HFcKg)
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You know that skit in "Meaning of Life" where they harvest some dude's organs?
someone wrote a whole science fiction movie about that - Repo Men, in 2010. It didn't get good reviews but it's good so far (30 minutes in)
someone wrote a whole science fiction movie about that - Repo Men, in 2010. It didn't get good reviews but it's good so far (30 minutes in)
Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (gKWVE)
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14 Polite reminder James Gunn jokes about pedophilia and rape on his Twitter.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (nyTxL)
Well not anymore but he did, yeah. Probably not a fan of me and my kind.
Not a lot of Hollywood types are moron. Hell, -quality several cast members on The Chosen are ashiests. The Chosen is still good though.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (nyTxL)
Well not anymore but he did, yeah. Probably not a fan of me and my kind.
Not a lot of Hollywood types are moron. Hell, -quality several cast members on The Chosen are ashiests. The Chosen is still good though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (xcxpd)
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Top photo is some place I'd love to hang for an evening!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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It is in CA, but a bit south of you.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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It is in CA, but a bit south of you.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (LVaYG)
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Yay, Different Colored Eyes Day ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura
"Heterochromia Iridum Day" sounds cooler.
But in the other eye, it's harder to spell.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
"Heterochromia Iridum Day" sounds cooler.
But in the other eye, it's harder to spell.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (DgGvY)
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Had lunch today with the estimable Cybersmythe and his charming bride. Very enjoyable time with a smart and witty guy.
Had lunch today with the estimable Cybersmythe and his charming bride. Very enjoyable time with a smart and witty guy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)
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1 This could be the greatest ONT ever!
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
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Of all the ONTs I've read, this is the latest.
Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
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Of all the ONTs I've read, this is the latest.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 12, 2025 10:14 PM (OGOaV)
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"Earth will happily spin like a basketball twirling on a fingertip, but if mass is suddenly added to one region, the rotation starts to wobble"
Huh, Hank Johnson might have been on to something....
Huh, Hank Johnson might have been on to something....
Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (GTw+O)
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I think Bongino overplayed his hand. But he can quit and go back to YouTube fortune.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (nyTxL)
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Hadrian, now you can come meet the rest of us.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (HFcKg)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (L9kkv)
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So, the collaboration continues, at least on the surface. Glad we can only see the glitz and glamour. The discord and jealousy behind the scenes should remain hidden, IMHO.
Posted by: Mayor of Realville at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (G5+As)
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15 Yay, Different Colored Eyes Day ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (lUFok)
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Does one eye being bloodshot count?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (lUFok)
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Does one eye being bloodshot count?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (OGOaV)
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (AOsQT)
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There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.
Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (xcxpd)
So... no Kzinti cat sex?
Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (xcxpd)
So... no Kzinti cat sex?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)
44
Andy Warhol drew a picture of a soupçon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (63Dwl)
45
Had lunch today with the estimable Cybersmythe and his charming bride. Very enjoyable time with a smart and witty guy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)
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Awesome!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)
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Awesome!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (kB9dk)
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Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)
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IERS, the International Earth Rotation and Reference System, is the one tasked with tracking the rotation and orientation of the earth down to quite amazing precision. This is critical for navigation and celestial positioning. The GPS system must know these very precisely in order to pinpoint a receiver's location on the rotating geoid.
IERS, the International Earth Rotation and Reference System, is the one tasked with tracking the rotation and orientation of the earth down to quite amazing precision. This is critical for navigation and celestial positioning. The GPS system must know these very precisely in order to pinpoint a receiver's location on the rotating geoid.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)
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Yay ONT!
Son, daughter-in-law , and our four grandchildren are driving back to Wyoming from S Illinois tonight. Sometimes they can drive straight through, Sometimes they have to stop for a night. It depends on the grandkids.
Old people worry rears it's ugly head, so I will read ya'll for entertainment.
Yay ONT!
Son, daughter-in-law , and our four grandchildren are driving back to Wyoming from S Illinois tonight. Sometimes they can drive straight through, Sometimes they have to stop for a night. It depends on the grandkids.
Old people worry rears it's ugly head, so I will read ya'll for entertainment.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (3ek7K)
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Sad when ya make Comment of the Week, and have a bad sock on.... LOL
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (mP0Kj)
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I can see why dam building might shift the moment of inertia of the Earth without significantly slowing the rate of rotation: mass was concentrated in various sites but not raised to any degree from the axis of rotation, assuming nearby sourcing of materials. Evidently the Earth’s spin rate went up ever so slightly!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (vcPNM)
51
Bill Nye knows how to cure the wobblies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (63Dwl)
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46 Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)
For those about to rock, we saloon you!
Wait..
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)
For those about to rock, we saloon you!
Wait..
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (nyTxL)
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40 So, the collaboration continues, at least on the surface. Glad we can only see the glitz and glamour. The discord and jealousy behind the scenes should remain hidden, IMHO.
Posted by: Mayor of Realville
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It's all behind the paywall - with excellent lighting.
Posted by: Mayor of Realville
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It's all behind the paywall - with excellent lighting.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (LVaYG)
54
Mmmmm. Pain medication refilled. Time for Zzzzzzzs.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (2OLVu)
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Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (3ek7K)
Hello S. Illinois neighbor. I hope your family has a safe drive home.
Hello S. Illinois neighbor. I hope your family has a safe drive home.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (sPQoU)
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Formerly, number eight, but read the content. Eh, eight is nothing.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (n4GiU)
57
39 Yay! Triple Ds! Howdy fellas!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM
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Hello COMM!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM
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Hello COMM!
Posted by: TRex - Dino is not AI at July 12, 2025 10:21 PM (cCn4/)
58
Nothing woke in the new Superman movie, and a very conservative message about the importance of assimilation.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (tgTrV)
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Got to the hobby thread late, but I pick up pretty rocks occasionally. Sometimes a little rock just looks special, ya know?
youtu.be/NecRndRN7Go
youtu.be/NecRndRN7Go
Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (rdVOm)
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Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.
Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)
Make Bongino the Territorial Governor of California when the Dem crime family is rolled up for insurrection.
And Good Evening to the ONT Horde, and the Horde of Hosts!
Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)
Make Bongino the Territorial Governor of California when the Dem crime family is rolled up for insurrection.
And Good Evening to the ONT Horde, and the Horde of Hosts!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (5djiY)
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Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.
Missed that thread today. Somebody hit a power pole or something and knocked the juice offline for a good chunk of the afternoon.
Missed that thread today. Somebody hit a power pole or something and knocked the juice offline for a good chunk of the afternoon.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (lUFok)
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Think I read that when everyone flushes during halftime of the Super Bowl, the Earth spins faster.
Posted by: Mr. Science at July 12, 2025 10:23 PM (G5+As)
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I'm in Oregon, visiting relatives. Fortunately I'll be spending most of my stay in the Greater Idaho portion of the state.
The Internet wouldn't give me a straight answer on whether the high capacity mag ban is in effect yet. I have an Oregon CWL, and just to be safe, I made sure to swap my 12 round magazines for the 10 round versions.
The Internet wouldn't give me a straight answer on whether the high capacity mag ban is in effect yet. I have an Oregon CWL, and just to be safe, I made sure to swap my 12 round magazines for the 10 round versions.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 12, 2025 10:23 PM (kuWOS)
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Feels like some paid spokespeople for Superman are afoot.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:23 PM (nyTxL)
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Evenin’. All.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (77rzZ)
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18 Thanks for the snacks and Mountain Dew too...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM
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Free refills!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM
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Free refills!
Posted by: TRex - Mt Dew for everyone! at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (cCn4/)
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (AOsQT)
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56 Formerly, number eight, but read the content. Eh, eight is nothing.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (n4GiU)
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On the contrary, my friend. Eight is Enough.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (n4GiU)
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On the contrary, my friend. Eight is Enough.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (OGOaV)
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Every day, IERS puts out their daily solution files, Bulletin A, I think they call it. The USNO mirrors that output here:
https://tinyurl.com/ywypes2a
The "finals2000A.daily" is the main one of interest. These files are in Fortran formatted I/O format, and the readme files there explain the column format.
Of interest to me there primarily is the daily DUT1 and LOD (length of day) values. The LOD is the excessive length of day, expressed in ms. Negative values means one complete mean solar day was faster. The past three days, 7/8 - 7/10 have been better than 1.3 ms faster than 24 hours (of atomic time).
Every day, IERS puts out their daily solution files, Bulletin A, I think they call it. The USNO mirrors that output here:
https://tinyurl.com/ywypes2a
The "finals2000A.daily" is the main one of interest. These files are in Fortran formatted I/O format, and the readme files there explain the column format.
Of interest to me there primarily is the daily DUT1 and LOD (length of day) values. The LOD is the excessive length of day, expressed in ms. Negative values means one complete mean solar day was faster. The past three days, 7/8 - 7/10 have been better than 1.3 ms faster than 24 hours (of atomic time).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM (w6EFb)
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The Wobblies as a political force, by and large, are long since spent!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM (vcPNM)
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So... no Kzinti cat sex?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)
No. You are thinking of Dean Ing.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)
No. You are thinking of Dean Ing.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM (D7oie)
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Launch tonight
GO! - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - DROR-1 - SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS
Launch Date: July 13, 2025
Launch Time: 01:04 a.m. EDT, 0504 UTC, 07:04 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2-Ai_36Cs
GO! - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - DROR-1 - SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS
Launch Date: July 13, 2025
Launch Time: 01:04 a.m. EDT, 0504 UTC, 07:04 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2-Ai_36Cs
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:26 PM (sPQoU)
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How did Superman come to have a dog
and how did the dog get its super powers
Posted by: Don Black
He lifted his leg on some kryptonite?
and how did the dog get its super powers
Posted by: Don Black
He lifted his leg on some kryptonite?
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:26 PM (DgGvY)
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Bill Nye knows how to cure the wobblies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (63Dwl)
I thought Pinkertons cured the Wobblies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (63Dwl)
I thought Pinkertons cured the Wobblies?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:26 PM (5djiY)
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This is critical for navigation and celestial positioning. The GPS system must know these very precisely in order to pinpoint a receiver's location on the rotating geoid.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)
Good Heavens, Man! What ever happened to LORAN?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)
Good Heavens, Man! What ever happened to LORAN?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (D7oie)
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>>I can see why dam building might shift the moment of inertia of the Earth without significantly slowing the rate of rotation
Probably just me but I think the idea that man can change the actions of the universe with things like cow farts or dams is some crazy shit.
Probably just me but I think the idea that man can change the actions of the universe with things like cow farts or dams is some crazy shit.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (viF8m)
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There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.
"Man of Steel and Woman of Kleenex" if I recall correctly.
"Man of Steel and Woman of Kleenex" if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (kuWOS)
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Superboy had a dog
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (+qU29)
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>>> They already boast a respectable 500,000 monthly listeners on the popular music streaming platform and show no signs of slowing down.
And almost all of the 500,000 are bots.
And almost all of the 500,000 are bots.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (/lPRQ)
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The Wobblies, think I saw them open for the Weebles in '76.
Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (GTw+O)
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ban is in effect yet. I have an Oregon CWL, and just to be safe, I made sure to swap my 12 round magazines for the 10 round versions.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Nobody needs ten bullets to kill a dee-ah!
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Nobody needs ten bullets to kill a dee-ah!
Posted by: Ex-Governor Cuomo at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (G5+As)
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NYPost: Rock band with more than 1 million Spotify listeners reveals it’s entirely AI-generated — down to the musicians themselves
The ’60s-inspired rock-and-roll band, the Velvet Sundown, revealed on Saturday that nothing about it is real after fans of the up-and-coming artists noticed there were virtually no traces of any people associated with it online.
Its debut album, “Floating on Echoes,” was released on June 5 to mass appeal online.
The most popular song in the album, pro-peace folk rock song “Dust on the Wind,” clinched the No. 1 spot for Spotify’s daily “Viral 50” chart in Britain, Norway and Sweden between June 29 and July 1.
The ’60s-inspired rock-and-roll band, the Velvet Sundown, revealed on Saturday that nothing about it is real after fans of the up-and-coming artists noticed there were virtually no traces of any people associated with it online.
Its debut album, “Floating on Echoes,” was released on June 5 to mass appeal online.
The most popular song in the album, pro-peace folk rock song “Dust on the Wind,” clinched the No. 1 spot for Spotify’s daily “Viral 50” chart in Britain, Norway and Sweden between June 29 and July 1.
Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (GITLP)
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The Niven in question is "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." Any Superman fan who hasn't read this yet should run out and grab a copy. It's a scream. It's in his collection All the Myriad Ways, and I think it's been anthologized several times.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:29 PM (q3u5l)
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Superboy had a dog who got his superpowers by being from Krypton, just like Superboy! I am going from my childhood reading of D.C. comics: I haven’t seen the new movie.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:29 PM (vcPNM)
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Hey, Skip.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (77rzZ)
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The floods in Texas and New Mexico, and other serious rainfall in N Am (including here in Oklahoma) no doubt had some microeffect on the planet's rotation.
Will be interesting to see how much effect there will be when the Three Gorges dam fails.
Imagine the world wobbling when the Mediterranean basin filled, or those giant floods in N America when the glaciers gave way.
Will be interesting to see how much effect there will be when the Three Gorges dam fails.
Imagine the world wobbling when the Mediterranean basin filled, or those giant floods in N America when the glaciers gave way.
Posted by: mindful webworker - bloosh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (+kBwA)
87
Rooftop bar up top needs more tikis and customers.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (/lPRQ)
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Read some Substack posts today. Very interesting. It's like most of them are high-functioning autistics. The same showy language used to express some very nutty things.
Read some Substack posts today. Very interesting. It's like most of them are high-functioning autistics. The same showy language used to express some very nutty things.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (HZi96)
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)
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Will be interesting to see how much effect there will be when the Three Gorges dam fails.
________
Can't. China technology incredible!!
Will be interesting to see how much effect there will be when the Three Gorges dam fails.
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Can't. China technology incredible!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (HZi96)
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The Velvet Sundown next album will be titled;
Everything is Fake and Gay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)
They opened for Milli Vanilli?
Everything is Fake and Gay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)
They opened for Milli Vanilli?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (5djiY)
92
Kill the Sneks!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)
93
Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.
Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black
Bongo Bounced.
86'd
Off the Menu
Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black
Bongo Bounced.
86'd
Off the Menu
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (/lPRQ)
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Bill Melugin@BillMelugin_
BREAKING: CBP commissioner reports that one of the illegal aliens apprehended by federal agents during the CA cannabis farm raid has prior convictions for kidnapping, attempted rape, and attempted child molestation. Same facility where unaccompanied migrant juvies were found.
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Spark of the divine, dude. Spark of the divine.
BREAKING: CBP commissioner reports that one of the illegal aliens apprehended by federal agents during the CA cannabis farm raid has prior convictions for kidnapping, attempted rape, and attempted child molestation. Same facility where unaccompanied migrant juvies were found.
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Spark of the divine, dude. Spark of the divine.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (L/fGl)
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52 46 Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)
For those about to rock, we saloon you!
Wait..
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (nyTxL)
Sorry it's taking so long for your drink. We're having trouble squeezing it out of the rock it comes in.
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)
For those about to rock, we saloon you!
Wait..
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (nyTxL)
Sorry it's taking so long for your drink. We're having trouble squeezing it out of the rock it comes in.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: mindful webworker - arf arf and arooooo at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (+kBwA)
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I’m not a paid spokesman for Superman, just a fan of the character. I was adopted as an infant and my mom used the story of Superman to explain adoption to me, so I have a very sentimental attachment to the character. I hated the Snyder version of the character so I am just happy to have a new movie that I enjoyed. I think it actually hurts MAGA to frame the movie as woke because it has an immigration theme, as that makes it sound like MAGA hates immigrants period, rather than just wanting the border controlled and illegal criminal aliens removed.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (tgTrV)
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Hi Miss Joy,
I hope you are doing as well as possible. I really enjoyed "reading " your Dad. He was such an interesting man and a fine man. He leaves a hole in ya'll and us here at Ace.
Daughter-in-law's parents live in Southern Illinois. Son and Daughter-in-law graduated from SIU. They got jobs in Wyoming and here we all are.
So glad to see you here. We care, but most of us aren't right in the head, lol. That makes this place interesting.
Hi Miss Joy,
I hope you are doing as well as possible. I really enjoyed "reading " your Dad. He was such an interesting man and a fine man. He leaves a hole in ya'll and us here at Ace.
Daughter-in-law's parents live in Southern Illinois. Son and Daughter-in-law graduated from SIU. They got jobs in Wyoming and here we all are.
So glad to see you here. We care, but most of us aren't right in the head, lol. That makes this place interesting.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (3ek7K)
99
I don't think I'd want to go drinking in a rooftop bar. What if I got really drunk, and went to pee over the edge of the parapet, and lost my footing?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (5djiY)
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Lanie Gardner is an attractive and talented young lady, but her video looks like a 1980s beer commercial, full of what I used to call the hysterically peppy people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (Riz8t)
101
That dancin" old dude...
That was a MoMe participant wasn't it?
And yes. We'll see it over and over again in TX as the evening progresses....
Lookin' at you Rat...🤯...
That was a MoMe participant wasn't it?
And yes. We'll see it over and over again in TX as the evening progresses....
Lookin' at you Rat...🤯...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (L9kkv)
102
Bondie needs to get moving
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (+qU29)
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Looking it up, the LORAN system in it's final variant, LORAN-C was shut down in 2010.
They are working on something dubbed eLoran, which will be a ground based backup to the GPS system, I see. Surely they backup now, but I don't know what it is.
Looking it up, the LORAN system in it's final variant, LORAN-C was shut down in 2010.
They are working on something dubbed eLoran, which will be a ground based backup to the GPS system, I see. Surely they backup now, but I don't know what it is.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (w6EFb)
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Does the new Superman movie actually use the line "truth, justice, and the human way?" Or was that pre-release hype?
If it does, does it sound less gay in the movie than I think it would? Because I think it would sound really gay.
If it does, does it sound less gay in the movie than I think it would? Because I think it would sound really gay.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (DgGvY)
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Our cat Salem is asleep on Dad's chair. He's never done that before.
My sister has to go back to work tomorrow. She's worried to leave me home alone, but it can't be helped.
Thank you again to all who have donated towards Dad's cremation.
[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]
My sister has to go back to work tomorrow. She's worried to leave me home alone, but it can't be helped.
Thank you again to all who have donated towards Dad's cremation.
[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (sPQoU)
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Kill the Sneks!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)
First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)
First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (5djiY)
107
Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.
Bongino status unclear.
I think Bongino sealed his fate when he gave Trump an ultimatum. You don't do that.
Bongino status unclear.
I think Bongino sealed his fate when he gave Trump an ultimatum. You don't do that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (Riz8t)
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Thanks for the ONT!
I don't get the first joke. But hell, do I get the beer one.
My neighbour across the street came by when I was cleaning the car which became mine yesterday. She lost her husband recently. She offered me two beers but I politely declined. I accept that I may lose ampersand privileges.
I told her last week was booze and edibles week. Now I have too much to do to reclaim my life.
It's 10:30pm. I'm doing a load of laundry, cutting up a watermelon and may clean the fridge.
Everyone have a great night.
Damn, I turned down 2 free beers...
I don't get the first joke. But hell, do I get the beer one.
My neighbour across the street came by when I was cleaning the car which became mine yesterday. She lost her husband recently. She offered me two beers but I politely declined. I accept that I may lose ampersand privileges.
I told her last week was booze and edibles week. Now I have too much to do to reclaim my life.
It's 10:30pm. I'm doing a load of laundry, cutting up a watermelon and may clean the fridge.
Everyone have a great night.
Damn, I turned down 2 free beers...
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)
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The line about “truth, justice, and the human way” is not used or even hinted at in the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (lCaJd)
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Over long timescales, Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down, largely because of tidal friction from the moon.
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Not climate change?
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Not climate change?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (ImXfC)
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The Velvet Sundown next album will be titled;
Everything is Fake and Gay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)
You don't say.
Everything is Fake and Gay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)
You don't say.
Posted by: Milli Vanilli at July 12, 2025 10:39 PM (gKDq2)
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Joyenz, it’s great to see you here.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (77rzZ)
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Looking it up, the LORAN system in it's final variant, LORAN-C was shut down in 2010.
They are working on something dubbed eLoran, which will be a ground based backup to the GPS system, I see. Surely they backup now, but I don't know what it is.
Posted by: publius
It will fail, because there are not enough nerds involved.
No way you can take the next step from LORAN-C and call it eLoran, and not D-LORAN, if there are enough nerds. I mean, the whole system is about using precise time to travel.
They are working on something dubbed eLoran, which will be a ground based backup to the GPS system, I see. Surely they backup now, but I don't know what it is.
Posted by: publius
It will fail, because there are not enough nerds involved.
No way you can take the next step from LORAN-C and call it eLoran, and not D-LORAN, if there are enough nerds. I mean, the whole system is about using precise time to travel.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (DgGvY)
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My neighbour across the street came by when I was cleaning the car which became mine yesterday. She lost her husband recently. She offered me two beers but I politely declined. I accept that I may lose ampersand privileges.
I told her last week was booze and edibles week. Now I have too much to do to reclaim my life.
It's 10:30pm. I'm doing a load of laundry, cutting up a watermelon and may clean the fridge.
Everyone have a great night.
Damn, I turned down 2 free beers...
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)
Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
I told her last week was booze and edibles week. Now I have too much to do to reclaim my life.
It's 10:30pm. I'm doing a load of laundry, cutting up a watermelon and may clean the fridge.
Everyone have a great night.
Damn, I turned down 2 free beers...
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)
Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (5djiY)
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (AOsQT)
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How did Superman come to have a dog
and how did the dog get its super powers
Posted by: Don Black
In the comics, Supergirl had a super cat. And a super horse (who was actually a sentient alien woo hoo). And IIRC, there was even a super-monkey.
I have no recollection of how any of them got here or got powers. Probably exposed to fuchsia kryptonite.
and how did the dog get its super powers
Posted by: Don Black
In the comics, Supergirl had a super cat. And a super horse (who was actually a sentient alien woo hoo). And IIRC, there was even a super-monkey.
I have no recollection of how any of them got here or got powers. Probably exposed to fuchsia kryptonite.
Posted by: mindful webworker - guess what rainbow kryptonite did! at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (+kBwA)
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Kill the Sneks!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)
First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (5djiY)
Brilliant!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)
First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (5djiY)
Brilliant!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (W/lyH)
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Bill Nye knows how to cure the wobblies.
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Bill Nye discovers the source of the devastating Texas flooding, and of course, it's fossil fuels
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So there!
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Bill Nye discovers the source of the devastating Texas flooding, and of course, it's fossil fuels
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So there!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (L/fGl)
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>>I don't think I'd want to go drinking in a rooftop bar. What if I got really drunk, and went to pee over the edge of the parapet, and lost my footing?
St Pete, Pass-A-Grille beach. The Hurricane.
I wouldn't lie to you.
St Pete, Pass-A-Grille beach. The Hurricane.
I wouldn't lie to you.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (viF8m)
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109 The line about “truth, justice, and the human way” is not used or even hinted at in the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)
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I heard it was "Truth, Justice and the Human Fund."
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)
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I heard it was "Truth, Justice and the Human Fund."
Posted by: G. Costanza at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (dDmld)
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Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (3ek7K)
Dad used to work at SIU-C when we lived in M'boro. Glad we don't live in that county anymore. Carbondale makes it a Blue nightmare.
Dad used to work at SIU-C when we lived in M'boro. Glad we don't live in that county anymore. Carbondale makes it a Blue nightmare.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (sPQoU)
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I think it actually hurts MAGA to frame the movie as woke because it has an immigration theme, as that makes it sound like MAGA hates immigrants period, rather than just wanting the border controlled and illegal criminal aliens removed.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (tgTrV)
Speaking only for myself and not MAGA…
It’s not that he’s an immigrant. It’s that the movie maker went out of his way to inject it into the discussion. And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (tgTrV)
Speaking only for myself and not MAGA…
It’s not that he’s an immigrant. It’s that the movie maker went out of his way to inject it into the discussion. And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (ImXfC)
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:43 PM (jvJvP)
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JackStraw -
It’s only that we’re measuring time to great precision: with GPS an error of a few nanoseconds is enough to throw you off by a few feet since EM waves travel at the speed of light (EM waves - radio - is the same as light, just at a much slower frequency) so:
L= c Δt = (3.00 x 10^8 m/s)(1.00 x 10^-9 s)
= 0.300 m = 30.0 cm,
or about a foot. So a millisecond error is a million time greater! Sorry for the math in an ONT!
It’s only that we’re measuring time to great precision: with GPS an error of a few nanoseconds is enough to throw you off by a few feet since EM waves travel at the speed of light (EM waves - radio - is the same as light, just at a much slower frequency) so:
L= c Δt = (3.00 x 10^8 m/s)(1.00 x 10^-9 s)
= 0.300 m = 30.0 cm,
or about a foot. So a millisecond error is a million time greater! Sorry for the math in an ONT!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:43 PM (vcPNM)
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Bill Nye discovers the source of the devastating Texas flooding, and of course, it's fossil fuels
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And TRUMP
But that goes without saying.
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And TRUMP
But that goes without saying.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 10:43 PM (dDmld)
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Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM
She's very nice.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM
She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)
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Joyenz, it’s great to see you here.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (77rzZ)
Thanks, I hope you're having a lovely evening.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (77rzZ)
Thanks, I hope you're having a lovely evening.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (sPQoU)
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Think I read that when everyone flushes during halftime of the Super Bowl, the Earth spins faster.
Posted by: Mr. Science
That's when all the men beat up their wives.
Think I read that when everyone flushes during halftime of the Super Bowl, the Earth spins faster.
Posted by: Mr. Science
That's when all the men beat up their wives.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (63Dwl)
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Miss Joy,
Most towns that have universities are turn blue. It's a shame. We really like Southern Illinois, lots of cool stuff to do there.
Miss Joy,
Most towns that have universities are turn blue. It's a shame. We really like Southern Illinois, lots of cool stuff to do there.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (3ek7K)
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And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
I think "my home planet blew the f--k up" is a perfectly good reason to request asylum.
And foreign adoptees are not illegal aliens, to my knowledge.
So Gunn may be a big-mouthed dope.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
I think "my home planet blew the f--k up" is a perfectly good reason to request asylum.
And foreign adoptees are not illegal aliens, to my knowledge.
So Gunn may be a big-mouthed dope.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (DgGvY)
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Speaking only for myself and not MAGA…
It’s not that he’s an immigrant. It’s that the movie maker went out of his way to inject it into the discussion. And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Foundlings are deemed to be citizens from whenever their birth can be estimated to. Always have been.
Superman is and always has been a US citizen.
It’s not that he’s an immigrant. It’s that the movie maker went out of his way to inject it into the discussion. And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Foundlings are deemed to be citizens from whenever their birth can be estimated to. Always have been.
Superman is and always has been a US citizen.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (/lPRQ)
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First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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This is how you run a tournament!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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This is how you run a tournament!
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (LVaYG)
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127 Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM
She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)
I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM
She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)
I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
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That's when all the men beat up their wives.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Equal rights, and lefts.
(I denounce myself)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Equal rights, and lefts.
(I denounce myself)
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 12, 2025 10:46 PM (elaR+)
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Megyn Kelly was on fire about Bondi all week. Its like Bondi did something personal to her. I feel bad for Bongino but I hope he explains what happened if he comes back to his podcast. He took a huge chance taking that job and I don't think his family was very happy about it. He seems like a good guy and they dont last long in DC.
Posted by: Megthered at July 12, 2025 10:46 PM (GOJbT)
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one of the illegal aliens apprehended by federal agents during the CA cannabis farm raid has prior convictions for kidnapping, attempted rape, and attempted child molestation
You're not very good at your job, are you?
You're not very good at your job, are you?
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at July 12, 2025 10:46 PM (gKWVE)
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Joyenz, good to see you. I hope you stick around!
Joyenz, good to see you. I hope you stick around!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (lCaJd)
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I get you can’t avoid everything art that’s leftist. Most music is left wing. But I listen to music. So I am being hypocritical with Superman? Maybe.
But for the most part the music I listen to doesn’t start with the singer saying “oh by the way this song is about this political thing, and fuck you if you disagree with me”. That’s the difference.
But for the most part the music I listen to doesn’t start with the singer saying “oh by the way this song is about this political thing, and fuck you if you disagree with me”. That’s the difference.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (ImXfC)
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127 Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM
She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)
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"Nice"? Sounds like a trap to me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM
She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)
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"Nice"? Sounds like a trap to me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (dDmld)
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111 Over long timescales, Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down, largely because of tidal friction from the moon.
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Not climate change?
I blame Net Neutrality.
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Not climate change?
I blame Net Neutrality.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (Riz8t)
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Howdy Club patrons! Just popping in to say YO!
Can't stay long but I'm feeling generous so a round for the house on me.
Tip your bartender.
Can't stay long but I'm feeling generous so a round for the house on me.
Tip your bartender.
Posted by: Doof at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (nB1L/)
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MAGA hates immigrants period
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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)
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BTW Ds
I saw Clapton and Knophler some years ago in Denver.
Wow. Two absolute guitar aficionados. Beauty in music!
I saw Clapton and Knophler some years ago in Denver.
Wow. Two absolute guitar aficionados. Beauty in music!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:49 PM (L9kkv)
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Found it! I'm going.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Send a report. Looks like a fun place.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Send a report. Looks like a fun place.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (LVaYG)
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128 Joyenz, I am, and am hoping you are, too.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (77rzZ)
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MAGA hates immigrants period
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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
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Yet another clown pretending they do not comprehend the difference between an "immigrant" (defined by law as one with an immigrant visa) and an illegal alien invader.
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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
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Yet another clown pretending they do not comprehend the difference between an "immigrant" (defined by law as one with an immigrant visa) and an illegal alien invader.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (/lPRQ)
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NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
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Hell, I think immigration is good for our country. And we have means for people to do so legally. These aren't the people Rep. PayPal is talking about.
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
__________
Hell, I think immigration is good for our country. And we have means for people to do so legally. These aren't the people Rep. PayPal is talking about.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (HZi96)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (lUFok)
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Heelllo, friends!
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (QzINz)
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>>Bondie needs to get moving
If John Solomon is correct, she has been.
This has been by far the most active and successful, from our side, presidency in our lives over the first 6 months. Oh yea, we just flew a bombing mission over Iran that destroyed the nuclerar project they have been working on for 50 years but what has Trump done for me this minute?
One year ago tomorrow they tried to put a bullet in Trump's head. Now USAID no longer exists and we had a budget surplus in the billions last month and the border is sealed tighter than a frog's ass.
These are the good times. We are winning. Don't miss it by always looking for the dark cloud.
If John Solomon is correct, she has been.
This has been by far the most active and successful, from our side, presidency in our lives over the first 6 months. Oh yea, we just flew a bombing mission over Iran that destroyed the nuclerar project they have been working on for 50 years but what has Trump done for me this minute?
One year ago tomorrow they tried to put a bullet in Trump's head. Now USAID no longer exists and we had a budget surplus in the billions last month and the border is sealed tighter than a frog's ass.
These are the good times. We are winning. Don't miss it by always looking for the dark cloud.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (viF8m)
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34 Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.
Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)
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I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing. There are probably a handful of true, gross perverts on there including Prince Whats-his-face. Epstein was a professional extortion artist. He probably needed to schmooze 1000s of people to get 20 idiots to bite, so his list probably contains more innocent people than guilty ones.
You also need to collect more evidence than just being on a list. I watch a lot of true crime stuff (like "The First 48", good show, check it out) and the investigators often know very early on who committed the murder, but it takes way longer than that to build a rock solid case to present in front of jury of idiots who can be swayed by stupid catch phrases like "if the glove does not fit, you must acquit"
Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)
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I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing. There are probably a handful of true, gross perverts on there including Prince Whats-his-face. Epstein was a professional extortion artist. He probably needed to schmooze 1000s of people to get 20 idiots to bite, so his list probably contains more innocent people than guilty ones.
You also need to collect more evidence than just being on a list. I watch a lot of true crime stuff (like "The First 48", good show, check it out) and the investigators often know very early on who committed the murder, but it takes way longer than that to build a rock solid case to present in front of jury of idiots who can be swayed by stupid catch phrases like "if the glove does not fit, you must acquit"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (pI9a0)
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'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (LVaYG)
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Traditionally, Kal-El was born on the planet Krypton, which no longer exists. He was adopted by the childless Kents, a Mid-American farm couple. They didn’t go on about his origins: who would believe them? So he was a foundling. They retconned this in the 80s such that he was born when the rocket/spaceship carrying the future Superman landed on Earth! That gave him birthright citizenship!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (vcPNM)
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Then again, Pramila Jayapal may be so stupid she actually thinks people just can wander into whatever country and its all good.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (/lPRQ)
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The immigrant comments started from an interviewer trying to stir things up by asking Gunn, “Don’t you think MAGA will hate this movie because Superman is an immigrant?” Gunn did not say anything negative about MAGA or Trump (at least in what I have seen), and has put forth the idea that this new movie is for everyone. I know Gunn’s history and if that turns you off I completely understand. But Gunn (on the interview rounds for this movie) is not making provocative statements that are offensive to MAGA—that is just the angle that some reports are taking.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (tgTrV)
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (3ek7K)
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Speaking of small m morons . . .
Senator Patty Murray@PattyMurray
Maybe cutting PBS and getting our kids hooked on brainrot TV is part of the Republican plan.
After all, if our kids watch PBS, they might learn to count!
And if our kids learn to count, how will Republicans ever convince anyone that trillions of dollars in tax cuts are free?
Senator Patty Murray@PattyMurray
Maybe cutting PBS and getting our kids hooked on brainrot TV is part of the Republican plan.
After all, if our kids watch PBS, they might learn to count!
And if our kids learn to count, how will Republicans ever convince anyone that trillions of dollars in tax cuts are free?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (L/fGl)
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Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)
What’s amazing is that democrats actually believe that ridiculous number.
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)
What’s amazing is that democrats actually believe that ridiculous number.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (Hlfhp)
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (77rzZ)
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I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)
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153 'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025
My family left for vacation today, I am going on Wednesday to meet them for the last half of the week. It’s just me and the menagerie. Pretty quiet, except for the 8 billion frogs outside.
153 'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025
My family left for vacation today, I am going on Wednesday to meet them for the last half of the week. It’s just me and the menagerie. Pretty quiet, except for the 8 billion frogs outside.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (QzINz)
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'Evening, Bulg.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (LVaYG)
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (QzINz)
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:55 PM (QzINz)
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Amen, JackStraw, amen!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:56 PM (vcPNM)
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Most towns that have universities are turn blue. It's a shame. We really like Southern Illinois, lots of cool stuff to do there.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (3ek7K)
I love Illinois, the state politics is the only issue. Garden of the Gods is a beautiful area.
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Joyenz, good to see you. I hope you stick around!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (lCaJd)
I will try, especially to post launch reminders. I am not much of a talker in person or online.
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Joyenz, I am, and am hoping you are, too.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (77rzZ)
About as well as can be right now.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (3ek7K)
I love Illinois, the state politics is the only issue. Garden of the Gods is a beautiful area.
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Joyenz, good to see you. I hope you stick around!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (lCaJd)
I will try, especially to post launch reminders. I am not much of a talker in person or online.
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Joyenz, I am, and am hoping you are, too.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (77rzZ)
About as well as can be right now.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:56 PM (sPQoU)
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I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)
Ack! I'm blind!
Seriously, that's Admiral Ackbar level of cruelty.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)
*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)
Ack! I'm blind!
Seriously, that's Admiral Ackbar level of cruelty.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:57 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:57 PM (77rzZ)
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Hell, I think immigration is good for our country. And we have means for people to do so legally. These aren't the people Rep. PayPal is talking about.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Immigrant we like: Alberta Einstein.
Immigrant Pramila likes: child rapist at the weed farm
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Immigrant we like: Alberta Einstein.
Immigrant Pramila likes: child rapist at the weed farm
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:57 PM (L/fGl)
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*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)
LOL!
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)
LOL!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:58 PM (5djiY)
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Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)
More like a keg than a six pack.
More like a keg than a six pack.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:58 PM (0eaVi)
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Don't underestimate the power of the Marxists/Democrats Propaganda Ministry
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (+qU29)
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*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack
I feel like after that picture of her Wednesday night, Lena needs a new, more robust nick name.
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack
I feel like after that picture of her Wednesday night, Lena needs a new, more robust nick name.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (ftFVW)
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Alberta Einstein? He/she was trans?!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (vcPNM)
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I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (5djiY)
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Read some Substack posts today. Very interesting. It's like most of them are high-functioning autistics. The same showy language used to express some very nutty things.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (HZi96)
Identical showy language is an indication of AI generated text.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (HZi96)
Identical showy language is an indication of AI generated text.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (D7oie)
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167 Joyenz, I’m sorry if I seemed flippant. I hope that you are as well as you can be while mourning your father.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (77rzZ)
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The history of all this as it relates to timekeeping is interesting. Up until the early 20th Century, the earth itself was the most accurate clock we had, much better than even the best mechanical chronometers made. A very accurate thing dubbed a master-slave vacuum pendulum clock was pretty good and used for precise astronomical timing. Eddington used one of these for he famous eclipse observations testing gravitational light bending against the then new General Relativity theory.
It wasn't until atomic clocks came on the scene that the variation of earth's rotation could be measured to high precision.
By the late 1800's they began to suspect the earth's rotation wasn't uniform, and wiggled around. Long term tidal slowing was known, but the daily wig woggles were suspected. Atomic clocks confirmed this to high precision.
The history of all this as it relates to timekeeping is interesting. Up until the early 20th Century, the earth itself was the most accurate clock we had, much better than even the best mechanical chronometers made. A very accurate thing dubbed a master-slave vacuum pendulum clock was pretty good and used for precise astronomical timing. Eddington used one of these for he famous eclipse observations testing gravitational light bending against the then new General Relativity theory.
It wasn't until atomic clocks came on the scene that the variation of earth's rotation could be measured to high precision.
By the late 1800's they began to suspect the earth's rotation wasn't uniform, and wiggled around. Long term tidal slowing was known, but the daily wig woggles were suspected. Atomic clocks confirmed this to high precision.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:00 PM (w6EFb)
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Liking the 2 episodes of Combat on H&I on Saturday night
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:00 PM (+qU29)
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This has been by far the most active and successful, from our side, presidency in our lives over the first 6 months. Oh yea, we just flew a bombing mission over Iran that destroyed the nuclerar project they have been working on for 50 years but what has Trump done for me this minute?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (viF8m)
You forgot:
(Locks arms across chest, stamps feet}
The Country's turning into one big giant Karen/Ken.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (viF8m)
You forgot:
(Locks arms across chest, stamps feet}
The Country's turning into one big giant Karen/Ken.
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:01 PM (gKDq2)
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Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack
I now have two belly buttons and a desire to throw up.
I now have two belly buttons and a desire to throw up.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 12, 2025 11:01 PM (elaR+)
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Well, I took apart the little glue gun that died on me this morning, with a zzort! and puff of smoke. It wasn't the cord that shorted, it was the heating element itself. Unfixable, so into the trash can with it. Did salvage the cord.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:02 PM (5djiY)
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Re Trigglypuff: the beer goggles, they do nothing!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 11:02 PM (vcPNM)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (L/fGl)
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Kash Patel
@Kash_Patel
The conspiracy theories just aren’t true, never have been. It’s an honor to serve the President of the United States @realDonaldTrump
— and I’ll continue to do so for as long as he calls on me.
12:26 PM · Jul 12, 2025
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@Kash_Patel
The conspiracy theories just aren’t true, never have been. It’s an honor to serve the President of the United States @realDonaldTrump
— and I’ll continue to do so for as long as he calls on me.
12:26 PM · Jul 12, 2025
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Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (AOsQT)
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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How goes the transmission surgery? I think that was your recent project/task.
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How goes the transmission surgery? I think that was your recent project/task.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (LVaYG)
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Evening, ONT-ers,
(Which sounds like the Ents in LoTR. Let's not be hasty, now.)
Joyenz, we are glad to see you here. Your father was esteemed, a fascinating raconteur with his stories, and his kindness toward the cats was legendary. Please stick around; you'll find out why he did.
(Which sounds like the Ents in LoTR. Let's not be hasty, now.)
Joyenz, we are glad to see you here. Your father was esteemed, a fascinating raconteur with his stories, and his kindness toward the cats was legendary. Please stick around; you'll find out why he did.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (rdVOm)
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I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Yes. Right outside Colorado Springs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Yes. Right outside Colorado Springs.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (dR6yv)
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Aukland butcher was selling "halal" sausages for over a decade. Turns out, no, those were just regular pork sausages. Still looking for the actual story instead of just a screen shot. But here's the screenshot: https://tinyurl.com/3dbxt8w4
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (lUFok)
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Good evening. It's bachelor weekend at Casa de Pablo, so I'm enjoying a cigar on the back deck. It's my reward for a day of errands, yard work, and cooking in anticipation of the better half's return tomorrow.
Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (o2Win)
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MiladyJo and I have been watching a Tom Baker & Sarah Jane Smith era Doctor Who, "The Hand of Fear." (Oooo, spooky, kids!) Spacing them out like when they ran on PBS in the 1960s: We watched part 1, waited a few days, watched part 2, then today part 3. Thinking we'll go ahead and watch part 4 now.
They sure were cheesy. Big budget special effects (haha) and sets (a quarry, an industrial plant). The alien gal is kinda cute.🛸
BBL
They sure were cheesy. Big budget special effects (haha) and sets (a quarry, an industrial plant). The alien gal is kinda cute.🛸
BBL
Posted by: mindful webworker - whoot whoot whoot whoooot at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (+kBwA)
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (elaR+)
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (5djiY)
We have a Garden of the Gods as well here in S. Illinois. It is part of the Shawnee Forest.
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Joyenz, I’m sorry if I seemed flippant. I hope that you are as well as you can be while mourning your father.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (77rzZ)
Oh no, I didn't take it that way at all. You were fine.
We have a Garden of the Gods as well here in S. Illinois. It is part of the Shawnee Forest.
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Joyenz, I’m sorry if I seemed flippant. I hope that you are as well as you can be while mourning your father.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (77rzZ)
Oh no, I didn't take it that way at all. You were fine.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:05 PM (sPQoU)
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I had cereal for dinner. Not bacon.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:55 PM (QzINz)
Kaboom????
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:55 PM (QzINz)
Kaboom????
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 11:05 PM (n4GiU)
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Inordinately flowery language is how you can tell AI generated text (I am not an AI nor do I use an LLM)!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 11:05 PM (vcPNM)
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>>> 153 'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (LVaYG)
*nods*
Tonight's dinner at la maison du panier à main was BLTs and corn on the cob.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (LVaYG)
*nods*
Tonight's dinner at la maison du panier à main was BLTs and corn on the cob.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 11:06 PM (ULPxl)
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I had chili dogs for dinner, no idea where that idea came from.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:07 PM (+qU29)
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Natural Progression:
1. Singing
2. Singing while accompanied
3. Singing with a microphone
4. Studio level adjustment
(lip synching interlude)
5. Auto-tune
6. A-I generated
7. A-I generated with "live" hologram performances
8. A-I generated with live life-like robot performances
(Nuclear war)
9. All Keith Richards, all the time
1. Singing
2. Singing while accompanied
3. Singing with a microphone
4. Studio level adjustment
(lip synching interlude)
5. Auto-tune
6. A-I generated
7. A-I generated with "live" hologram performances
8. A-I generated with live life-like robot performances
(Nuclear war)
9. All Keith Richards, all the time
Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (dIske)
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Good evening all.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (CHHv1)
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How goes the transmission surgery? I think that was your recent project/task.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (LVaYG)
Progressing slowly. I got the input drum assembly finished today. I found several ways to assemble it wrong, and finally sorted it out. Spent time trying to tighten clearance on the 3-4 apply clutch, and found using a wave plate from the parts transmission gave me the best I could manage. I did air-check all the clutches in that drum, and could hear the "clunk" as they applied, so there's that.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (LVaYG)
Progressing slowly. I got the input drum assembly finished today. I found several ways to assemble it wrong, and finally sorted it out. Spent time trying to tighten clearance on the 3-4 apply clutch, and found using a wave plate from the parts transmission gave me the best I could manage. I did air-check all the clutches in that drum, and could hear the "clunk" as they applied, so there's that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (5djiY)
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We finished watching Addams Family Values from 1993; a charmer as usual, with Christina Ricci as a standout Wednesday. 'Bout bedtime after a long tough day (car's battery died; I called AAA; drove to a tire shop and got a new battery; end of tale). Linda had a fire in a vacant apartment or condo near hers, and her place still smells of smoke, so she is crashing here.
The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are doing well and wish all of you a good night. Well, actually, no, they just wish each of you would pop a scoop of dry Purina One cat chow into their bowls and then go away, but at least they are honest about it.
The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are doing well and wish all of you a good night. Well, actually, no, they just wish each of you would pop a scoop of dry Purina One cat chow into their bowls and then go away, but at least they are honest about it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (omVj0)
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How did Leonhard Euler ever learn to count without some bisexual goth puppet with a fake Eastern European accent teaching him on television??
Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (gKWVE)
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Inordinately flowery language is how you can tell AI generated text (I am not an AI nor do I use an LLM)!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Agree. Eleventy. When someone at the shop sends over something asking for a review, it's obvious when it's not their words.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Agree. Eleventy. When someone at the shop sends over something asking for a review, it's obvious when it's not their words.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (LVaYG)
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 11:09 PM (77rzZ)
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>>The Country's turning into one big giant Karen/Ken.
It's bizarre how little the media reporting reflects real life. Probably why the media dying.
You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.
It's bizarre how little the media reporting reflects real life. Probably why the media dying.
You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:09 PM (viF8m)
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I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (pI9a0)
The thing about the flight logs that got me was the plane was used for more than just trips to Pedo Island. Two names that stuck out to me on the plane's flight logs that I read, being a football fan, was Arsenal's manager, Mikael Arteta, and a former Chelsea player, Callum Hudson-Odoi. They were on some charity trip to Africa on that plane. The plane could go to many legitimate places for many legitimate reasons carrying as passengers completely legitimate people.
So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (pI9a0)
The thing about the flight logs that got me was the plane was used for more than just trips to Pedo Island. Two names that stuck out to me on the plane's flight logs that I read, being a football fan, was Arsenal's manager, Mikael Arteta, and a former Chelsea player, Callum Hudson-Odoi. They were on some charity trip to Africa on that plane. The plane could go to many legitimate places for many legitimate reasons carrying as passengers completely legitimate people.
So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (gKDq2)
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Okay- I read what I guess are blogs on Substack. There are a lot, but I just picked out a few good ones re: my personal interests
Is there some other Substack? That one sounds a bit like DU.
Is there some other Substack? That one sounds a bit like DU.
Posted by: sal at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (f+FmA)
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Progressing slowly. I got the input drum assembly finished today. I found several ways to assemble it wrong, and finally sorted it out. Spent time trying to tighten clearance on the 3-4 apply clutch, and found using a wave plate from the parts transmission gave me the best I could manage. I did air-check all the clutches in that drum, and could hear the "clunk" as they applied, so there's that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I'll be the guy standing by the toolbox - you call 'em out, I'll hand 'em to you. Rebuilt one transmission - that was enough. Good on you for tackling that project.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I'll be the guy standing by the toolbox - you call 'em out, I'll hand 'em to you. Rebuilt one transmission - that was enough. Good on you for tackling that project.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (LVaYG)
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I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
We have a Garden of the Gods as well here in S. Illinois. It is part of the Shawnee Forest.
Posted by: Joyenz
Different gods, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
We have a Garden of the Gods as well here in S. Illinois. It is part of the Shawnee Forest.
Posted by: Joyenz
Different gods, I guess.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:12 PM (DgGvY)
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G’Night, All. Sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 11:14 PM (77rzZ)
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I had a friend ask if it was possible to can cherries in jello. I have no idea if it is possible, so I mixed gelatin, pectin and sugar for cherries, to see what happened when I waterbath can them
I suspect it isn't going to do any good, so I will probably make a second attempt with twice as much pectin and gelatin.
The physical changes that pectin and gelatin undergo while making gel is very interesting. Pectin is reliant on pH and the sugar helps displace water which makes the pectin gel runny. Part of the "soft ball" stage appears to be driving off enough water from the mix, and the water content change while boiling changes the boiling point up.
Gelatin is actually sensitive to heat, and I may have to do a modified water bath treatment, like a sous vide set up, to get the temperature high enough to kill bacteria but low enough to allow the gelling to happen.
I like food chemistry. I wish I had gotten into it more back when I thought I could cook. I would have been a better cook!
I suspect it isn't going to do any good, so I will probably make a second attempt with twice as much pectin and gelatin.
The physical changes that pectin and gelatin undergo while making gel is very interesting. Pectin is reliant on pH and the sugar helps displace water which makes the pectin gel runny. Part of the "soft ball" stage appears to be driving off enough water from the mix, and the water content change while boiling changes the boiling point up.
Gelatin is actually sensitive to heat, and I may have to do a modified water bath treatment, like a sous vide set up, to get the temperature high enough to kill bacteria but low enough to allow the gelling to happen.
I like food chemistry. I wish I had gotten into it more back when I thought I could cook. I would have been a better cook!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 11:14 PM (D7oie)
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Aukland butcher was selling "halal" sausages for over a decade. Turns out, no, those were just regular pork sausages. Still looking for the actual story instead of just a screen shot. But here's the screenshot: https://tinyurl.com/3dbxt8w4
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (lUFok)
That does not pass the smell test. I mean, literally. Who would mistake the smell of cooking pork sausages for sausages made of beef, lamb, or goat? Dollars to donuts, the muzzies bought them as "halal" knowing full well they were pork, but could deceive allah because they bore the halal label. allah is easily tricked, you know.
And mocking the religion of orcs isn't "racist" per se. It's just taking advantage of simpletons.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (lUFok)
That does not pass the smell test. I mean, literally. Who would mistake the smell of cooking pork sausages for sausages made of beef, lamb, or goat? Dollars to donuts, the muzzies bought them as "halal" knowing full well they were pork, but could deceive allah because they bore the halal label. allah is easily tricked, you know.
And mocking the religion of orcs isn't "racist" per se. It's just taking advantage of simpletons.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (5djiY)
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Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
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So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: RickZ
We don't care about the flight logs from Miami to NYC.
Just the ones from NYC to the Underage Isles.
Posted by: RickZ
We don't care about the flight logs from Miami to NYC.
Just the ones from NYC to the Underage Isles.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (DgGvY)
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I listen to a fair bit of AI generated music, including Velvet Sundown, and while some of it is good to very good, it never is going to hit like the first time you heard Songs in The Key of Life, or Jira or Super Unknown.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 12, 2025 11:16 PM (XV/Pl)
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"By the way, the fridge has been fully stocked with classic Mountain Dew. (None of that diet stuff here.) Help yourself."
If I help myself to a Dew, I don't have to be Kamala's running mate, do I?
If I help myself to a Dew, I don't have to be Kamala's running mate, do I?
Posted by: Mr. Right at July 12, 2025 11:16 PM (qbYk4)
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (sPQoU)
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***Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down
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Oh, no, when the earth slows too much we lose gravity and the oceans fly up in the sky and we and the animals do too.
Call up Musk on the telephone and tell him to shut the fuck up and get to work.
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Oh, no, when the earth slows too much we lose gravity and the oceans fly up in the sky and we and the animals do too.
Call up Musk on the telephone and tell him to shut the fuck up and get to work.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (zH8im)
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Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
I'm a big fan of that one
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
I'm a big fan of that one
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (xcxpd)
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*pops a cold one and wanders*
I'll commence to lurking over here in this corner.
Love all youz!!!
I'll commence to lurking over here in this corner.
Love all youz!!!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (L9kkv)
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I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing.
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A credible way to punt on the situation would be to say "We don't have enough evidence to bring any further charges". No one would be particularly surprised that any useful evidence got disappeared before Trump's people could publish it.
Unfortunately Bondi made sweeping statements about the magnitude of what she had, and now wants to toe the Deep State line that there is nothing there and was never anything there, and for whatever reason, Trump's backing her.
That's a black mark on both of them. And if we see Bongino leave over this, that act, regardless of what he can or can't further say, is confirmation that there is much more there there than the Trump regime is telling us. It would mean that Trump is lying to us, whatever else he may be doing that coincides with our interests.
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A credible way to punt on the situation would be to say "We don't have enough evidence to bring any further charges". No one would be particularly surprised that any useful evidence got disappeared before Trump's people could publish it.
Unfortunately Bondi made sweeping statements about the magnitude of what she had, and now wants to toe the Deep State line that there is nothing there and was never anything there, and for whatever reason, Trump's backing her.
That's a black mark on both of them. And if we see Bongino leave over this, that act, regardless of what he can or can't further say, is confirmation that there is much more there there than the Trump regime is telling us. It would mean that Trump is lying to us, whatever else he may be doing that coincides with our interests.
Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (zLwRl)
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Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
I watched that as well. Old movies are my thing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
I watched that as well. Old movies are my thing.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (sPQoU)
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I used to be scared of automatic transmissions.
Been slowly rebuilding a 68 Ford C6 automatic when I can.
Not bad at all.
Can't say I'd tackle a modern transmission, though.
Been slowly rebuilding a 68 Ford C6 automatic when I can.
Not bad at all.
Can't say I'd tackle a modern transmission, though.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (elaR+)
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Good evening, long time lurker, occasional commentor here. A few nights ago, several lurkers made appearances, I believe when the horde was reminiscing about dearly departed morons. I was inspired by that and would love for lurkers to perhaps say hi and how long they have been reading this blog. I'll start...hi, my name is (not) Scarlett, and I have been lurking for about 12 years, maybe more, after being introduced by another long time lurker. This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 12, 2025 11:19 PM (GJ7ds)
Posted by: Little Pedro at July 12, 2025 11:20 PM (63Dwl)
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Here's what the earth's rotation has been doing since 1962, when the atomic clock system was put into place (TIA):
https://tinyurl.com/hk6sxps5
Note the rapid day to day variation, shown by the spiky gray lines, vs the moving 365 day average shown by the green curve. Now, the grey line would correlate with UT1 time scale, while the green one would be tracking UT2, a smoothed time scale that used to be used for "UT"/GMT-equivalent.
You can see the trend has been speeding up over the last 60 years.
Here's what the earth's rotation has been doing since 1962, when the atomic clock system was put into place (TIA):
https://tinyurl.com/hk6sxps5
Note the rapid day to day variation, shown by the spiky gray lines, vs the moving 365 day average shown by the green curve. Now, the grey line would correlate with UT1 time scale, while the green one would be tracking UT2, a smoothed time scale that used to be used for "UT"/GMT-equivalent.
You can see the trend has been speeding up over the last 60 years.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:20 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (gKDq2)
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So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (gKDq2)
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My unpopular take on the Epstein debacle: the names will never be released as they would likely cause economic collapse if not outright war (I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others). Even if they were released, none of them would face justice, they'd either go full diplomatic immunity or spend a few million on lawyers to drag it out forever. They can't un-screw those kids, and the victims have no path to compensation. It's a vicious, evil soul-consuming clusterfuck.
That said, we have the information. When we brought the Paperclip and Unit 731 guys here after WWII, we didn't tell them to burn their research first. We used it. And, since this exists, we can use it as well.
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (gKDq2)
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My unpopular take on the Epstein debacle: the names will never be released as they would likely cause economic collapse if not outright war (I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others). Even if they were released, none of them would face justice, they'd either go full diplomatic immunity or spend a few million on lawyers to drag it out forever. They can't un-screw those kids, and the victims have no path to compensation. It's a vicious, evil soul-consuming clusterfuck.
That said, we have the information. When we brought the Paperclip and Unit 731 guys here after WWII, we didn't tell them to burn their research first. We used it. And, since this exists, we can use it as well.
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)
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Thanks for the ONT.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (bss/y)
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I used to be scared of automatic transmissions.
Been slowly rebuilding a 68 Ford C6 automatic when I can.
Not bad at all.
Can't say I'd tackle a modern transmission, though.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (elaR+)
Conceptually, they are pretty simple. In practice, they get very complicated, with many duplications of "almost the same" parts, that may have slight differences that are crucial, and have to be installed the right way in the right sequence.
Been slowly rebuilding a 68 Ford C6 automatic when I can.
Not bad at all.
Can't say I'd tackle a modern transmission, though.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (elaR+)
Conceptually, they are pretty simple. In practice, they get very complicated, with many duplications of "almost the same" parts, that may have slight differences that are crucial, and have to be installed the right way in the right sequence.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (5djiY)
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This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 12, 2025 11:19 PM (GJ7ds)
________
Fiddle-dee-dee!
This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 12, 2025 11:19 PM (GJ7ds)
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Fiddle-dee-dee!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (HZi96)
234
If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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More than the pedos at the island I want to know who was controlling Epstein.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (zH8im)
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And I know you're all crushed at my lack of posting (massive sarcasm), but kind of hard to visit when working 50+ hours a week.
My employer just doesn't understand why we are so productive on Saturdays versus the rest of the week.
This is mainly because they don't bother to analyze why.
So we work 10 hour days M-F and Saturday hours are TBD.
My employer just doesn't understand why we are so productive on Saturdays versus the rest of the week.
This is mainly because they don't bother to analyze why.
So we work 10 hour days M-F and Saturday hours are TBD.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (elaR+)
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(I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others)
_________
If not more so. I should think that they use devices you only thought you read about.
(I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others)
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If not more so. I should think that they use devices you only thought you read about.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (HZi96)
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If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
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Thank Mother Nature for Ozempic!
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Thank Mother Nature for Ozempic!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (zLwRl)
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I'll start...hi, my name is (not) Scarlett, and I have been lurking for about 12 years, maybe more, after being introduced by another long time lurker. This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara
Custom is to include pics.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara
Custom is to include pics.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (/lPRQ)
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Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
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Great film, and Helena Carter was an absolute smokeshow.
Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
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Great film, and Helena Carter was an absolute smokeshow.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (QdGJh)
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109 The line about “truth, justice, and the human way” is not used or even hinted at in the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)
Correct.
Also, I will also add that this movie has an incredible number of super hot women in this. With one noticeable slow motion jiggle scene.
I have no idea why, but I am not complaining.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)
Correct.
Also, I will also add that this movie has an incredible number of super hot women in this. With one noticeable slow motion jiggle scene.
I have no idea why, but I am not complaining.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (xcxpd)
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Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (+qU29)
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That said, we have the information. When we brought the Paperclip and Unit 731 guys here after WWII, we didn't tell them to burn their research first. We used it. And, since this exists, we can use it as well.
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)
That's about the size of it, I think. And were any of the "kids" at Epstein Island really little children, like pre-puberty, or were they more in the jailbait class, physically pretty mature, but a year or two short of legal age?
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)
That's about the size of it, I think. And were any of the "kids" at Epstein Island really little children, like pre-puberty, or were they more in the jailbait class, physically pretty mature, but a year or two short of legal age?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:26 PM (5djiY)
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Conceptually, they are pretty simple. In practice, they get very complicated, with many duplications of "almost the same" parts, that may have slight differences that are crucial, and have to be installed the right way in the right sequence.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
From looking at the C6 vs. the GM stuff of the same era the similarities are striking.
However, I know there is zero interchange.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
From looking at the C6 vs. the GM stuff of the same era the similarities are striking.
However, I know there is zero interchange.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (elaR+)
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Epstein was an intel Kompromat op against western and anglosphere politicians, scientists and tech leaders, those were the people on the flights, in his black book and on the tapes.
The reason why it's being covered up is because the controlling authorities do not want to let the world know that everyone is being blackmailed in some form or fashion.
And this is the last time I'm going to talk about Epstein because, in the final analysis, and in the main, no one cares.
The reason why it's being covered up is because the controlling authorities do not want to let the world know that everyone is being blackmailed in some form or fashion.
And this is the last time I'm going to talk about Epstein because, in the final analysis, and in the main, no one cares.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (XV/Pl)
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It's possible to go back well before 1962, although it will not be as precise as the atomic clock data: Scroll down this page and you'll see a LOD graph going back to 1830:
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49
Where does that come from? By the early 1800s, astronomical observations were getting precise enough to see wig-woggle in the earth's rotation, and thus, over time relative to earth rotation based time.
You can see the earth was spinning pretty fast around 1870, an even bigger acceleration hiccup that now. About 3 ms less than 24 hours. But, by the early 1900s, it had slowed down, touching 4 ms longer than 24 hours.
But, if you plot a linear trend line over those 200 years, you'll see that the LOD is getting longer, and that agrees very closely with the calculated long term tidal slowing.
It's possible to go back well before 1962, although it will not be as precise as the atomic clock data: Scroll down this page and you'll see a LOD graph going back to 1830:
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49
Where does that come from? By the early 1800s, astronomical observations were getting precise enough to see wig-woggle in the earth's rotation, and thus, over time relative to earth rotation based time.
You can see the earth was spinning pretty fast around 1870, an even bigger acceleration hiccup that now. About 3 ms less than 24 hours. But, by the early 1900s, it had slowed down, touching 4 ms longer than 24 hours.
But, if you plot a linear trend line over those 200 years, you'll see that the LOD is getting longer, and that agrees very closely with the calculated long term tidal slowing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (w6EFb)
247
Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.
California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (sPQoU)
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So we work 10 hour days M-F and Saturday hours are TBD.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (elaR+)
_________
Grad school in STEM is supposed to involve some massive hours. But I think if an adviser said to his group, "No one can work past 6:00 or on weekends," the efficiency would go up considerably.
So we work 10 hour days M-F and Saturday hours are TBD.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (elaR+)
_________
Grad school in STEM is supposed to involve some massive hours. But I think if an adviser said to his group, "No one can work past 6:00 or on weekends," the efficiency would go up considerably.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (HZi96)
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234 If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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FUN FACT: The penguins wouldn't feel a thing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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FUN FACT: The penguins wouldn't feel a thing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (dDmld)
250
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky
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So we will never from the Clintons again?
Sarcasm aside...
Victoria was not the only pedo bait there.
Far from it... Or are we to believe that her charm alone supported Epstein's empire?
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky
===
So we will never from the Clintons again?
Sarcasm aside...
Victoria was not the only pedo bait there.
Far from it... Or are we to believe that her charm alone supported Epstein's empire?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (/lPRQ)
251
Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip
Well, allegedly she acted as pimp in securing females and supposedly even participated in sex acts with Epstein and the underaged females.
Posted by: Skip
Well, allegedly she acted as pimp in securing females and supposedly even participated in sex acts with Epstein and the underaged females.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:29 PM (elaR+)
252
It's possible to go back well before 1962, although it will not be as precise as the atomic clock data: Scroll down this page and you'll see a LOD graph going back to 1830:
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49
Where does that come from? By the early 1800s, astronomical observations were getting precise enough to see wig-woggle in the earth's rotation, and thus, over time relative to earth rotation based time.
You can see the earth was spinning pretty fast around 1870, an even bigger acceleration hiccup that now. About 3 ms less than 24 hours. But, by the early 1900s, it had slowed down, touching 4 ms longer than 24 hours.
But, if you plot a linear trend line over those 200 years, you'll see that the LOD is getting longer, and that agrees very closely with the calculated long term tidal slowing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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Been reading a decent amount/researching watches and how they stay so accurate. Might be a bit nerdy for an ONT, but very cool stuff.
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49
Where does that come from? By the early 1800s, astronomical observations were getting precise enough to see wig-woggle in the earth's rotation, and thus, over time relative to earth rotation based time.
You can see the earth was spinning pretty fast around 1870, an even bigger acceleration hiccup that now. About 3 ms less than 24 hours. But, by the early 1900s, it had slowed down, touching 4 ms longer than 24 hours.
But, if you plot a linear trend line over those 200 years, you'll see that the LOD is getting longer, and that agrees very closely with the calculated long term tidal slowing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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Been reading a decent amount/researching watches and how they stay so accurate. Might be a bit nerdy for an ONT, but very cool stuff.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:29 PM (LVaYG)
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US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
________
Some big scandal in Belgium long time ago where the PM was involved in raping little girls.
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
________
Some big scandal in Belgium long time ago where the PM was involved in raping little girls.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:30 PM (HZi96)
254
If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Move to one of the poles, then gravity will remain more constant as the earth's rotation slows down.
Though it'll still drop as the rotation-driven equatorial bulge subsides. That'll move the equator closer to the core, and the poles further away, so gravity will be more equal between them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Move to one of the poles, then gravity will remain more constant as the earth's rotation slows down.
Though it'll still drop as the rotation-driven equatorial bulge subsides. That'll move the equator closer to the core, and the poles further away, so gravity will be more equal between them.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:31 PM (DgGvY)
255
245 Thomas as good a theory as any
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:32 PM (+qU29)
256
From looking at the C6 vs. the GM stuff of the same era the similarities are striking.
However, I know there is zero interchange.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (elaR+)
I have done relatively few automatics. A Powerglide, which did not work out well; a C4, which did, a couple of Studebaker Flightomatics (almost identical to the Ford cast-iron Cruisomatic), which both worked well, and a Ford AODE, and a previous 4L60E, which both worked well.
However, I know there is zero interchange.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (elaR+)
I have done relatively few automatics. A Powerglide, which did not work out well; a C4, which did, a couple of Studebaker Flightomatics (almost identical to the Ford cast-iron Cruisomatic), which both worked well, and a Ford AODE, and a previous 4L60E, which both worked well.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:32 PM (5djiY)
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>> Though it'll still drop as the rotation-driven equatorial bulge subsides.
Sea level would shift too, as the shape of the equipotenial "geoid" surfaces would become more spherical and less ellipsoidal. I was reading about that recently. Very complicated business.
Sea level would shift too, as the shape of the equipotenial "geoid" surfaces would become more spherical and less ellipsoidal. I was reading about that recently. Very complicated business.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)
258
It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)
Then I insist on VA benefits and pensions for the trafficked girls. If we are going to be the policy of the feral gov to accept such things as a cost of doing business.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)
Then I insist on VA benefits and pensions for the trafficked girls. If we are going to be the policy of the feral gov to accept such things as a cost of doing business.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 11:33 PM (D7oie)
259
Then there would be a list
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:35 PM (+qU29)
260
Beelink owners PSA:
Do not use a pencil eraser or any like object to press the power button on the device. The button is not hard plastic it is a rubber cup covering a tiny pin that drives the switch.
If one uses an object smaller in diameter than the button he will drive the soft cup into the body of the device rendering it unable to be activated.
...until one removes the bottom plate and carefully, if the pin's not broken, pushes the rubber cup back into place.
Do not use a pencil eraser or any like object to press the power button on the device. The button is not hard plastic it is a rubber cup covering a tiny pin that drives the switch.
If one uses an object smaller in diameter than the button he will drive the soft cup into the body of the device rendering it unable to be activated.
...until one removes the bottom plate and carefully, if the pin's not broken, pushes the rubber cup back into place.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:35 PM (zH8im)
261
Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (+qU29)
We're apparently supposed to believe that he was a lone wolf. Like Crooks. Or the Vegas shooter.
Just with his own island. Somehow.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (+qU29)
We're apparently supposed to believe that he was a lone wolf. Like Crooks. Or the Vegas shooter.
Just with his own island. Somehow.
Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:36 PM (zLwRl)
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>>Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
She's in prison because at her trial numerous victims came forward and testified that she helped traffic them to Epstein. Nobody else, Epstein.
Did they pimp the girls out to others? Sure. But that is not what Maxwell was charged with or convicted of.
Here's the DOJ press release.
https://tinyurl.com/27mtt6nv
She's in prison because at her trial numerous victims came forward and testified that she helped traffic them to Epstein. Nobody else, Epstein.
Did they pimp the girls out to others? Sure. But that is not what Maxwell was charged with or convicted of.
Here's the DOJ press release.
https://tinyurl.com/27mtt6nv
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:37 PM (viF8m)
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I have no proof that elites are re-enacting The 120 Days of Sodom but I wouldn't be astonished if it were one day revealed that elites re-enacted The 120 Days of Sodom.
I have no proof that elites are re-enacting The 120 Days of Sodom but I wouldn't be astonished if it were one day revealed that elites re-enacted The 120 Days of Sodom.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:37 PM (HZi96)
264
I know that all of the Morons are well aware that Bill Nye is actually an imbecile, rather than a scientist.
However, this link below from his show is the cringiest, least AOS thing I have ever seen.
https://tinyurl.com/4ht8ez7y
Beware! Only go to that link if you want to view the anti-matter mirror image opposite of an ONT!
However, this link below from his show is the cringiest, least AOS thing I have ever seen.
https://tinyurl.com/4ht8ez7y
Beware! Only go to that link if you want to view the anti-matter mirror image opposite of an ONT!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 11:37 PM (HlyYF)
265
@255
>>Thomas as good a theory as any
It's pretty obvious what Epstein was, and most of his story has been investigated and revealed in disparate books, news articles by both MSM and independent journalists and various legal proceedings.
What is missing is formal acknowledgement of what Epstein was, which we are never going to get, apparently.
>>Thomas as good a theory as any
It's pretty obvious what Epstein was, and most of his story has been investigated and revealed in disparate books, news articles by both MSM and independent journalists and various legal proceedings.
What is missing is formal acknowledgement of what Epstein was, which we are never going to get, apparently.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 12, 2025 11:38 PM (XV/Pl)
266
Famous and powerful people flew to that island and it wasn't for the food
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:39 PM (+qU29)
267
I am off to bed, dog is snoring, cats hogging up as much space as they possibly can. I know yall are jealous of my life. 😂
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (QzINz)
268
The reason why it's being covered up is because the controlling authorities do not want to let the world know that everyone is being blackmailed in some form or fashion.
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Then there is no possibility of representative government in this country and it's time to try something else.
Without all of the people who have corrupted themselves by participating in the US federal government.
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Then there is no possibility of representative government in this country and it's time to try something else.
Without all of the people who have corrupted themselves by participating in the US federal government.
Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (zLwRl)
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Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.
California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz
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Good lord, he appears to be about 60 and he's Mexican. It's not like North Korea. Just go along peacefully, Jaime. You're not a stuntman.
Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.
California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz
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Good lord, he appears to be about 60 and he's Mexican. It's not like North Korea. Just go along peacefully, Jaime. You're not a stuntman.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (lCaJd)
270
another judge playing President:
@JonathanTurley
Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, has issued restraining orders that effectively freeze ICE arrests in Los Angeles. The orders are breathtakingly broad and, in my view, will be difficult to sustain on appeal.
3:22 PM · Jul 12, 2025
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@JonathanTurley
Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, has issued restraining orders that effectively freeze ICE arrests in Los Angeles. The orders are breathtakingly broad and, in my view, will be difficult to sustain on appeal.
3:22 PM · Jul 12, 2025
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Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (AOsQT)
271
For the 2nd time (that I'm aware of) I made one of the comments of the week. I'm somebody! (With apologies to Steve Martin.)
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (KAi1n)
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266 Famous and powerful people flew to that island and it wasn't for the food
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:39
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Yelp reviews raved about the shrimp cocktail. No mention of the NDA's.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:39
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Yelp reviews raved about the shrimp cocktail. No mention of the NDA's.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (LVaYG)
273
Grad school in STEM is supposed to involve some massive hours. But I think if an adviser said to his group, "No one can work past 6:00 or on weekends," the efficiency would go up considerably.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
M-F all the other departments are on site.
The assembly line is a like an interference engine.
If the timing is right it runs like there is no tomorrow.
In my few months with the company, those days have been exceptionally rare.
When the timing is off in an interference motor, you have catastrophic failure.
While it hasn't been THAT bad, something always kneecaps our production.
The biggest issue is other departments not having their shit together.
Said departments aren't there on Saturdays.
Yet the degreed geniuses in charge either don't see this or don't care.
I guess they'd rather pay OT and lose people to burnout rather than fix the issues.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
M-F all the other departments are on site.
The assembly line is a like an interference engine.
If the timing is right it runs like there is no tomorrow.
In my few months with the company, those days have been exceptionally rare.
When the timing is off in an interference motor, you have catastrophic failure.
While it hasn't been THAT bad, something always kneecaps our production.
The biggest issue is other departments not having their shit together.
Said departments aren't there on Saturdays.
Yet the degreed geniuses in charge either don't see this or don't care.
I guess they'd rather pay OT and lose people to burnout rather than fix the issues.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (elaR+)
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>>>My unpopular take on the Epstein debacle: the names will never be released as they would likely cause economic collapse if not outright war (I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others). Even if they were released, none of them would face justice, they'd either go full diplomatic immunity or spend a few million on lawyers to drag it out forever. They can't un-screw those kids, and the victims have no path to compensation. It's a vicious, evil soul-consuming clusterfuck.
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There's a Megyn Kelly utube, she verified it was indisputably true, with Dershowitz explaining how the main witness against Prince Andrew, forgot her name, has been proven to give false information. All of her testimony is invalid.
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There's a Megyn Kelly utube, she verified it was indisputably true, with Dershowitz explaining how the main witness against Prince Andrew, forgot her name, has been proven to give false information. All of her testimony is invalid.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:43 PM (zH8im)
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Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.
California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz
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Good lord, he appears to be about 60 and he's Mexican. It's not like North Korea. Just go along peacefully, Jaime. You're not a stuntman.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Just trying to get back to the Home Depot garden section for his next gig.
California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz
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Good lord, he appears to be about 60 and he's Mexican. It's not like North Korea. Just go along peacefully, Jaime. You're not a stuntman.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Just trying to get back to the Home Depot garden section for his next gig.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 11:43 PM (/lPRQ)
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I have created a cat monster. Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer. He demands it every night about this time. Nothing will do him but to get some of the paste.
He comes in here and starts escalating the agitation. He will not let me ignore him when it's paste time.
I have created a cat monster. Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer. He demands it every night about this time. Nothing will do him but to get some of the paste.
He comes in here and starts escalating the agitation. He will not let me ignore him when it's paste time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:44 PM (w6EFb)
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The way I see it the Queen didn't think it was invalid
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:46 PM (+qU29)
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Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Posted by: Don Black
I find her guilty of having an unfathomably silly name.
I place a stay on all of her judgments until she chooses a name no sillier than "Karen Johnson."
Posted by: Don Black
I find her guilty of having an unfathomably silly name.
I place a stay on all of her judgments until she chooses a name no sillier than "Karen Johnson."
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:47 PM (DgGvY)
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Found it. Jul 11, 2025
Megyn Kelly is joined by Dave Aronberg and Viva Frei, legal experts, to discuss important distinction between a Jeffrey Epstein “client list” and a “list of clients,” whether any sort of list should be made public and if powerful people are being protected, whether we'll ever get more info about the story, and more..
It's timed to start at the intro to Dershowitz.
https://youtu.be/cykkvQJ45R4?t=42
Megyn Kelly is joined by Dave Aronberg and Viva Frei, legal experts, to discuss important distinction between a Jeffrey Epstein “client list” and a “list of clients,” whether any sort of list should be made public and if powerful people are being protected, whether we'll ever get more info about the story, and more..
It's timed to start at the intro to Dershowitz.
https://youtu.be/cykkvQJ45R4?t=42
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:47 PM (zH8im)
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267 I am off to bed, dog is snoring, cats hogging up as much space as they possibly can. I know yall are jealous of my life. 😂
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (QzINz
Good night Piper!
And Good night Horde!
It was a good day! I'm healing faster than I thought now that things are better..
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (QzINz
Good night Piper!
And Good night Horde!
It was a good day! I'm healing faster than I thought now that things are better..
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 11:48 PM (jvJvP)
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Famous and powerful people flew to that island and it wasn't for the food
Posted by: Skip
Yelp reviews raved about the shrimp cocktail. No mention of the NDA's.
Posted by: scampydog
Shrimp cock tail? ISWYDT.
Posted by: Skip
Yelp reviews raved about the shrimp cocktail. No mention of the NDA's.
Posted by: scampydog
Shrimp cock tail? ISWYDT.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:48 PM (DgGvY)
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Joy,
The illegal who fell off the roof of the greenhouse, the asshole left wanted to make him the next George Floyd martyr.
I'm hoping the left doesn't "come up" with someone they deem a martyr because all hell will break loose in our country.
Joy,
The illegal who fell off the roof of the greenhouse, the asshole left wanted to make him the next George Floyd martyr.
I'm hoping the left doesn't "come up" with someone they deem a martyr because all hell will break loose in our country.
Posted by: four seasons at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (3ek7K)
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Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip
From Coast to Coast AM:
Seasoned private investigator Nils Grevillius joined guest host Richard Syrett to discuss high-profile criminal cases, mainly the Jeffrey Epstein. Regarding Jeffrey Epstein, Grevillius provided an alternative perspective on the convicted sex offender's operations, suggesting that Epstein was merely a front for a larger intelligence scheme. He posed a provocative question: "What if Ghislaine Maxwell was running an operation for MI6? What if the CIA bought shares in it?" He speculated that these intelligence agencies used Epstein's network as "a honey trap" to gather compromising material on powerful figures. Grevillius also expressed skepticism about the DOJ and FBI's conclusions regarding Epstein's death, criticizing the handling of evidence.
Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip
From Coast to Coast AM:
Seasoned private investigator Nils Grevillius joined guest host Richard Syrett to discuss high-profile criminal cases, mainly the Jeffrey Epstein. Regarding Jeffrey Epstein, Grevillius provided an alternative perspective on the convicted sex offender's operations, suggesting that Epstein was merely a front for a larger intelligence scheme. He posed a provocative question: "What if Ghislaine Maxwell was running an operation for MI6? What if the CIA bought shares in it?" He speculated that these intelligence agencies used Epstein's network as "a honey trap" to gather compromising material on powerful figures. Grevillius also expressed skepticism about the DOJ and FBI's conclusions regarding Epstein's death, criticizing the handling of evidence.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (63Dwl)
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A year ago tomorrow Trump missed having his brains blown out because he unexpectedly turned his head.
We know dick about the shooter or how he was allowed to get a clean shot at Trump. We don't know much more about the spaz who tried to murder him in Florida.
The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
We know dick about the shooter or how he was allowed to get a clean shot at Trump. We don't know much more about the spaz who tried to murder him in Florida.
The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (viF8m)
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Both assassination attempts went down the rabbit hole
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:51 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: four seasons at July 12, 2025 11:51 PM (3ek7K)
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The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw
The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).
Posted by: JackStraw
The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:51 PM (DgGvY)
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Oh except now we know a few SS Agents will get vacations and moved somewhere
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:52 PM (+qU29)
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I'm rested, fresh and ready to expose all the Epstein client perverts. I just need an old fashioned impeachment so I can deliver to the American people.
Posted by: JD Vance at July 12, 2025 11:53 PM (/U5Yz)
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have done relatively few automatics. A Powerglide, which did not work out well; a C4, which did, a couple of Studebaker Flightomatics (almost identical to the Ford cast-iron Cruisomatic), which both worked well, and a Ford AODE, and a previous 4L60E, which both worked well.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I have a car that has an ST300 which many mistake for a Powerglide.
It's just adequate at best and hardly anyone sells parts for it.
It's the definition of "meh".
A TH350 or 7004r will replace it.
Was the AODE much of a challenge to rebuild?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I have a car that has an ST300 which many mistake for a Powerglide.
It's just adequate at best and hardly anyone sells parts for it.
It's the definition of "meh".
A TH350 or 7004r will replace it.
Was the AODE much of a challenge to rebuild?
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (elaR+)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (8BiK7)
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I just need an old fashioned impeachment so I can deliver to the American people.
Posted by: JD Vance
The 25th amendment is sitting right there, buddy.
Posted by: JD Vance
The 25th amendment is sitting right there, buddy.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (DgGvY)
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>Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Posted by: Don Black
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born in this country to Ghanaian parents
indoctrinated at Harvard and Yale
Posted by: Don Black
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born in this country to Ghanaian parents
indoctrinated at Harvard and Yale
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (AOsQT)
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The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (viF8m)
One might assume that President Trump doesn't need outside pressure to manage an interest in the two attempts on his life.
As far as I know, he hasn't send Bondi out to tell the world that Crooks and the Ukraine recruiter were lone wolves and that we should stop asking questions about them.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (viF8m)
One might assume that President Trump doesn't need outside pressure to manage an interest in the two attempts on his life.
As far as I know, he hasn't send Bondi out to tell the world that Crooks and the Ukraine recruiter were lone wolves and that we should stop asking questions about them.
Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (zLwRl)
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>>The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).
Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.
Homan announced the other day they have found 10,000 so far. They found a bunch at the weed frm in CA the other day. That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.
Homan announced the other day they have found 10,000 so far. They found a bunch at the weed frm in CA the other day. That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (viF8m)
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284 Jackstraw.
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The word transparency. Seems to only apply in the private sector. Never seem to get answers from the public sector - a lot like the Magic 8 Ball. Or better yet - now you see it, now you don't crap.
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The word transparency. Seems to only apply in the private sector. Never seem to get answers from the public sector - a lot like the Magic 8 Ball. Or better yet - now you see it, now you don't crap.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:56 PM (LVaYG)
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The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Many people are relieved at the attention focused on Epstein.
Bondi, closed the case against Pfizer. How many people did Epstein kill? How many people did Pfizer kill?
That's just one of a multitude of heinous things across the board.
The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Many people are relieved at the attention focused on Epstein.
Bondi, closed the case against Pfizer. How many people did Epstein kill? How many people did Pfizer kill?
That's just one of a multitude of heinous things across the board.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:57 PM (zH8im)
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The way I see it the Queen didn't think it was invalid
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:46 PM (+qU29)
Andrew went to Epstein's island and boinked Virginia Giuffre, who may have been underage at the time, hence "jailbait". She even went to London with him; it's not like he was strenuously hiding the affair. And she might have been "legal" in London, not certain. So he was a horndog banging an underage (depending upon date and jurisdiction) hooker. Not really a pedo. I'd say Bill Clinton's dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was on about the same level of dumbassery.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:46 PM (+qU29)
Andrew went to Epstein's island and boinked Virginia Giuffre, who may have been underage at the time, hence "jailbait". She even went to London with him; it's not like he was strenuously hiding the affair. And she might have been "legal" in London, not certain. So he was a horndog banging an underage (depending upon date and jurisdiction) hooker. Not really a pedo. I'd say Bill Clinton's dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was on about the same level of dumbassery.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:58 PM (5djiY)
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>>The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).
Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.
Homan announced the other day they have found 10,000 so far. They found a bunch at the weed frm in CA the other day. That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
Posted by: JackStraw
And they're being abused by randos like the owner of the pot farm. Epstein's kids were being abused by the people running the world. No difference to the kids, but a big difference to us.
Compare the Catholic priest or schoolteacher cases. Or the abuse of a child by a parent versus by a random kidnapper.
We Do Not Like It when the people in power abuse their power.
Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.
Homan announced the other day they have found 10,000 so far. They found a bunch at the weed frm in CA the other day. That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
Posted by: JackStraw
And they're being abused by randos like the owner of the pot farm. Epstein's kids were being abused by the people running the world. No difference to the kids, but a big difference to us.
Compare the Catholic priest or schoolteacher cases. Or the abuse of a child by a parent versus by a random kidnapper.
We Do Not Like It when the people in power abuse their power.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:59 PM (DgGvY)
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That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
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I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.
Did I miss that?
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I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.
Did I miss that?
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:00 AM (zLwRl)
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284 A year ago tomorrow Trump missed having his brains blown out because he unexpectedly turned his head.
We know dick about the shooter or how he was allowed to get a clean shot at Trump. We don't know much more about the spaz who tried to murder him in Florida.
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We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved
We know dick about the shooter or how he was allowed to get a clean shot at Trump. We don't know much more about the spaz who tried to murder him in Florida.
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We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)
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Was the AODE much of a challenge to rebuild?
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (elaR+)
No. Very similar to the 4L60E. Electronically-controlled 4-speed automatic. Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (elaR+)
No. Very similar to the 4L60E. Electronically-controlled 4-speed automatic. Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:02 AM (5djiY)
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>>The word transparency. Seems to only apply in the private sector. Never seem to get answers from the public sector - a lot like the Magic 8 Ball. Or better yet - now you see it, now you don't crap.
It's never been this way and never will. As I mentioned above, USAID no longer exists. That was the CIA. Most people have no frigging clue. Why aren't we celebrating the fact the CIA's regime change machine has been broken? Or don't wins actually matter?
Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. He isn't going to get deader and Maxwell isn't going to do more time. I'm good with turning our focus on the myriad of problems we still have that we can actually fix.
It's never been this way and never will. As I mentioned above, USAID no longer exists. That was the CIA. Most people have no frigging clue. Why aren't we celebrating the fact the CIA's regime change machine has been broken? Or don't wins actually matter?
Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. He isn't going to get deader and Maxwell isn't going to do more time. I'm good with turning our focus on the myriad of problems we still have that we can actually fix.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:03 AM (viF8m)
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143 MAGA hates immigrants period
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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)
I recall a recent batch of immigrants, legal ones, that the left was hopping mad over them being allowed to enter our country. Some lefties were even threatening that someone would kill the immigrants.
So do they only like immigrants that sneak in and commit crimes and burden our social services?
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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)
I recall a recent batch of immigrants, legal ones, that the left was hopping mad over them being allowed to enter our country. Some lefties were even threatening that someone would kill the immigrants.
So do they only like immigrants that sneak in and commit crimes and burden our social services?
Posted by: Emmie at July 13, 2025 12:03 AM (rF2iL)
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I have created a cat monster. Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer. He demands it every night about this time. Nothing will do him but to get some of the paste.
He comes in here and starts escalating the agitation. He will not let me ignore him when it's paste time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Reminds me of my diabetic kitty.
She gets hangry at night.
She would knock items off my night table and/or attack my other kitty in order to get food so she'd behave.
I removed everything from the night table. That worked for a couple nights.
Kitty cane up with a new plan.
She would still fight my other cat, but she started to walk on me to wake me up.
As I have to be up very early, it's a problem.
It's hard to say no as she is somewhere near 20 and I know my remaining time with her is short anyway.
He comes in here and starts escalating the agitation. He will not let me ignore him when it's paste time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Reminds me of my diabetic kitty.
She gets hangry at night.
She would knock items off my night table and/or attack my other kitty in order to get food so she'd behave.
I removed everything from the night table. That worked for a couple nights.
Kitty cane up with a new plan.
She would still fight my other cat, but she started to walk on me to wake me up.
As I have to be up very early, it's a problem.
It's hard to say no as she is somewhere near 20 and I know my remaining time with her is short anyway.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:03 AM (elaR+)
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John Soloman says DOJ has been diligently working, putting things together for a big surprise. Hope he's right.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:04 AM (zH8im)
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My takeaway from the latest Trump proclamation is, if you're a world power it is perfectly okay to exploit young underaged girls in furtherment of your end goals as well as covering it up like a cat covering a GOP turd.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:04 AM (/U5Yz)
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306 John Soloman says DOJ has been diligently working, putting things together for a big surprise. Hope he's right.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
No offense but, John Solomon is the Jim Cramer of DC.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
No offense but, John Solomon is the Jim Cramer of DC.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (/U5Yz)
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No. Very similar to the 4L60E. Electronically-controlled 4-speed automatic. Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Ouch.
Let me scratch that idea off my list.
Thanks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Ouch.
Let me scratch that idea off my list.
Thanks.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (elaR+)
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The new AoS ads are pretty comical. Recently seen ads: Coffins, cars, saggy skin, and dental implants. That ad right after the FIRST/Sponge comment - still haven't adjusted to that.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (LVaYG)
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I think the White House position re: Epstein is gelling around
'we're on a roll right now, and we don't need this shit tripping us up- moving on!'
'we're on a roll right now, and we don't need this shit tripping us up- moving on!'
Posted by: Don Black at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (AOsQT)
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>>I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.
You're going to have to be a bit more specific. If you are asking if Trump said to move past Epstein and does he think Bondi is doing a good job representing his goals, yea, he did. Emphatically.
You're going to have to be a bit more specific. If you are asking if Trump said to move past Epstein and does he think Bondi is doing a good job representing his goals, yea, he did. Emphatically.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:06 AM (viF8m)
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We ate on 7 months, something better break open sokn
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:07 AM (+qU29)
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Arrrg!
Off Racial Revisionist sock.
Off Racial Revisionist sock.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:07 AM (elaR+)
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I'm good with turning our focus on the myriad of problems we still have that we can actually fix.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I like the trend. It's a nice change of pace. I want more pedal on the right.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I like the trend. It's a nice change of pace. I want more pedal on the right.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:07 AM (LVaYG)
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>>No offense but, John Solomon is the Jim Cramer of DC.
No offense but that is dumb. He was the first actual reporter to blow up the Russia hoax.
No offense but that is dumb. He was the first actual reporter to blow up the Russia hoax.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:08 AM (viF8m)
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Back in to say I'm done for the night.
_____old Dr Who spoiler alert____
I had no idea that "Hand of Fear" was the last old Who with Sarah Jane. When Tom Baker Dr Who says goodbye, he says, until we meet again. Bittersweet; they didn't meet again until the new series David Tennant. I was glad Elisabeth Sladen's character got to recur, decades later, and even got her own spin-off series before she died. For all the silliness of Dr Who, she was a sweetheart.
_____end spoiler alert, as if it were needed_____
Gonna jump in the ol' Tardis - one that has a working chameleon circuit and is disguised as a comfy bed - and time-travel to Sunday morning.
*cranks wheel, pushes lever, whiney noises screech*
G'nite, y'all.
https://youtu.be/Xg8M-8BqTGs
_____old Dr Who spoiler alert____
I had no idea that "Hand of Fear" was the last old Who with Sarah Jane. When Tom Baker Dr Who says goodbye, he says, until we meet again. Bittersweet; they didn't meet again until the new series David Tennant. I was glad Elisabeth Sladen's character got to recur, decades later, and even got her own spin-off series before she died. For all the silliness of Dr Who, she was a sweetheart.
_____end spoiler alert, as if it were needed_____
Gonna jump in the ol' Tardis - one that has a working chameleon circuit and is disguised as a comfy bed - and time-travel to Sunday morning.
*cranks wheel, pushes lever, whiney noises screech*
G'nite, y'all.
https://youtu.be/Xg8M-8BqTGs
Posted by: mindful webworker - be seeing you at July 13, 2025 12:09 AM (+kBwA)
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>>>Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Times have changed. Caddy r&r, by the shop, $250.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Times have changed. Caddy r&r, by the shop, $250.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:09 AM (zH8im)
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>>No offense but that is dumb. He was the first actual reporter to blow up the Russia hoax.
Posted by: JackStraw
NO. What is dumb is you always taking the deep states side on any matter. It's old, Its crusty, and it's pathetic.
Posted by: JackStraw
NO. What is dumb is you always taking the deep states side on any matter. It's old, Its crusty, and it's pathetic.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:09 AM (/U5Yz)
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The illegal who fell off the roof of the greenhouse, the asshole left wanted to make him the next George Floyd martyr.
I'm hoping the left doesn't "come up" with someone they deem a martyr because all hell will break loose in our country.
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That's exactly what I'm dreading. We know it's coming.
The illegal who fell off the roof of the greenhouse, the asshole left wanted to make him the next George Floyd martyr.
I'm hoping the left doesn't "come up" with someone they deem a martyr because all hell will break loose in our country.
Posted by: four seasons
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That's exactly what I'm dreading. We know it's coming.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:10 AM (9pzfg)
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Sometimes the special of the day is a shit sandwich.
Posted by: Don Black at July 13, 2025 12:10 AM (AOsQT)
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Ouch.
Let me scratch that idea off my list.
Thanks.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (elaR+)
The 4L80E is the big brother to the 4L60E. Think of it as the 4-speed overdrive successor to the TH400, just as the 4L60E was a successor to the TH350. Bigger, and stronger.
I will say the 6-speed automatic in my 2008 Suburban has been very reliable for 330,000 km. Over 200,000 miles. If I were going to build a big-power hotrod using GM components, I would that tranmission or the 4L80E.
Let me scratch that idea off my list.
Thanks.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (elaR+)
The 4L80E is the big brother to the 4L60E. Think of it as the 4-speed overdrive successor to the TH400, just as the 4L60E was a successor to the TH350. Bigger, and stronger.
I will say the 6-speed automatic in my 2008 Suburban has been very reliable for 330,000 km. Over 200,000 miles. If I were going to build a big-power hotrod using GM components, I would that tranmission or the 4L80E.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:11 AM (5djiY)
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Have new Hyundai Pallasade ad up. Looks nice
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:11 AM (+qU29)
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We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)
IIRC, Tim Walz was also in a BlackRock commercial. It's all very weird.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)
IIRC, Tim Walz was also in a BlackRock commercial. It's all very weird.
Posted by: Emmie at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (rF2iL)
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>>NO. What is dumb is you always taking the deep states side on any matter. It's old, Its crusty, and it's pathetic.
Sure thing, retard.
Sure thing, retard.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (viF8m)
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Metadata embedded in the video and analyzed by WIRED and independent video forensics experts shows that rather than being a direct export from the prison’s surveillance system, the footage was modified, likely using the professional editing tool Adobe Premiere Pro. The file appears to have been assembled from at least two source clips, saved multiple times, exported, and then uploaded to the DOJ’s website, where it was presented as “raw” footage.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (/U5Yz)
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It's never been this way and never will. As I mentioned above, USAID no longer exists. That was the CIA. Most people have no frigging clue. Why aren't we celebrating the fact the CIA's regime change machine has been broken? Or don't wins actually matter?
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It isn't a win until the enemy is in chains or in the ground, or at the very least, made a very public show of surrender.
None of those options have yet come to pass.
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It isn't a win until the enemy is in chains or in the ground, or at the very least, made a very public show of surrender.
None of those options have yet come to pass.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (zLwRl)
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Blonde,
Yep, the left is working hard to "create" another martyr.
I think law enforcement is working hard to not help the assholes "create" another one.
Blonde,
Yep, the left is working hard to "create" another martyr.
I think law enforcement is working hard to not help the assholes "create" another one.
Posted by: four seasons at July 13, 2025 12:13 AM (3ek7K)
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The long term, geological time scale variation of the earth's mean solar day is also interesting. As mentioned, the main driver of slowing the earth's rotation is the tidal friction of the the Moon, pulling up tidal bulges. To conserve angular momentum, as the earth slows, the Moon must recede. A fraction of the earth's rotational kinetic energy goes to increasing the Moon's orbital energy. The balance goes to heat.
So, as the Moon slows the earth down, the equal and opposite reaction throws the Moon into a higher orbit. This process goes roughly as 1/r^6, where r is the Moon's mean orbital radius. Think of it as tidal field (inverse cube) squared.
When you naively plug that it, you find over the 4.5 billion years since the Moon formed, it should be farther away. It would take "only" 1.7 billion years or so for the Moon to be thrown from the Roche limit of the earth to the current distance.
There are other complex factors involved, and it was sort of ongoing question. It was solved around 2023.
The long term, geological time scale variation of the earth's mean solar day is also interesting. As mentioned, the main driver of slowing the earth's rotation is the tidal friction of the the Moon, pulling up tidal bulges. To conserve angular momentum, as the earth slows, the Moon must recede. A fraction of the earth's rotational kinetic energy goes to increasing the Moon's orbital energy. The balance goes to heat.
So, as the Moon slows the earth down, the equal and opposite reaction throws the Moon into a higher orbit. This process goes roughly as 1/r^6, where r is the Moon's mean orbital radius. Think of it as tidal field (inverse cube) squared.
When you naively plug that it, you find over the 4.5 billion years since the Moon formed, it should be farther away. It would take "only" 1.7 billion years or so for the Moon to be thrown from the Roche limit of the earth to the current distance.
There are other complex factors involved, and it was sort of ongoing question. It was solved around 2023.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)
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324 We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)
IIRC, Tim Walz was also in a BlackRock commercial. It's all very weird.
Posted by: Emmie
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One way to launder bonus money.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)
IIRC, Tim Walz was also in a BlackRock commercial. It's all very weird.
Posted by: Emmie
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One way to launder bonus money.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:15 AM (zH8im)
Posted by: Don Black at July 13, 2025 12:16 AM (AOsQT)
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Turns out that over a 1 billion year period from about 2 billion years ago until 600 million years ago, the earth's day remained stable at about 19.5 hours. The Moon did not recede, and the earth didn't slow for 1 billion years.
If it did, the current day would be about 60 hours long, and the Moon would be much farther away. What happened? A very complex dance of regular tides, and a solar atmospheric tide that got in resonance at a rough 20 hour day.
Turns out that over a 1 billion year period from about 2 billion years ago until 600 million years ago, the earth's day remained stable at about 19.5 hours. The Moon did not recede, and the earth didn't slow for 1 billion years.
If it did, the current day would be about 60 hours long, and the Moon would be much farther away. What happened? A very complex dance of regular tides, and a solar atmospheric tide that got in resonance at a rough 20 hour day.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:16 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Emmie at July 13, 2025 12:16 AM (rF2iL)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (zH8im)
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It isn't a win until the enemy is in chains or in the ground, or at the very least, made a very public show of surrender.
So the fact we had a huge budget surplus last month when the "experts" said the economy would tank, the border is sealed, Iran will never have nukes, my taxes aren't going up, illegals are being sent to Sudan and on and on and on doesn't matter because Hillary isn't in chains?
That's kind of weird way of looking at the world.
So the fact we had a huge budget surplus last month when the "experts" said the economy would tank, the border is sealed, Iran will never have nukes, my taxes aren't going up, illegals are being sent to Sudan and on and on and on doesn't matter because Hillary isn't in chains?
That's kind of weird way of looking at the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (viF8m)
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The long term, geological time scale variation of the earth's mean solar day is also interesting. As mentioned, the main driver of slowing the earth's rotation is the tidal friction of the the Moon, pulling up tidal bulges. To conserve angular momentum, as the earth slows, the Moon must recede. A fraction of the earth's rotational kinetic energy goes to increasing the Moon's orbital energy. The balance goes to heat.
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Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)
The balance goes to heat. Is that heat the source of the heat in the Earth's core, or is that more from radioactive decay of heavy elements in the core?
And would adding a largish moon to Mars and/or Venus help in any way to terraform those planets?
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Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)
The balance goes to heat. Is that heat the source of the heat in the Earth's core, or is that more from radioactive decay of heavy elements in the core?
And would adding a largish moon to Mars and/or Venus help in any way to terraform those planets?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (5djiY)
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Turns out that over a 1 billion year period from about 2 billion years ago until 600 million years ago, the earth's day remained stable at about 19.5 hours. The Moon did not recede, and the earth didn't slow for 1 billion years.
If it did, the current day would be about 60 hours long, and the Moon would be much farther away. What happened? A very complex dance of regular tides, and a solar atmospheric tide that got in resonance at a rough 20 hour day.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
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Thanks for working that out and sharing before I went down that path. The long game it is.
If it did, the current day would be about 60 hours long, and the Moon would be much farther away. What happened? A very complex dance of regular tides, and a solar atmospheric tide that got in resonance at a rough 20 hour day.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
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Thanks for working that out and sharing before I went down that path. The long game it is.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:19 AM (LVaYG)
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>>I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.
You're going to have to be a bit more specific. If you are asking if Trump said to move past Epstein and does he think Bondi is doing a good job representing his goals, yea, he did. Emphatically.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:06 AM (viF8m)
I was responding to your distraction regarding the foreign children whereabouts unknown.
People do get worked up about that when it's relevant to a discussion. It is not at the moment because the Trump regime is not insisting that it's a nothingburger and actively demanding that we not talk about it.
You're going to have to be a bit more specific. If you are asking if Trump said to move past Epstein and does he think Bondi is doing a good job representing his goals, yea, he did. Emphatically.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:06 AM (viF8m)
I was responding to your distraction regarding the foreign children whereabouts unknown.
People do get worked up about that when it's relevant to a discussion. It is not at the moment because the Trump regime is not insisting that it's a nothingburger and actively demanding that we not talk about it.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:19 AM (zLwRl)
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Sorry I'm late, my Orchestra of Unusual Instruments had a recital. My dog whistle solo really had them howling.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 12:20 AM (M7GJP)
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Comment of the week??
ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!!
(retrieves vintage pull tab from usb port)
You LIKE me! You really, really like me!
ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!!
(retrieves vintage pull tab from usb port)
You LIKE me! You really, really like me!
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 12:23 AM (bA75n)
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>>I was responding to your distraction regarding the foreign children whereabouts unknown.
It's not a distraction at all. It's a fact. Children are still children no matter where they are from.
Has it occured to you that Trump might know things you don't and that's why he came out again today, forcefully, supporting Bondi and saying this issue is closed as far as he is concerned?
If you are really angry with Trump, don't vote for him in 2028.
It's not a distraction at all. It's a fact. Children are still children no matter where they are from.
Has it occured to you that Trump might know things you don't and that's why he came out again today, forcefully, supporting Bondi and saying this issue is closed as far as he is concerned?
If you are really angry with Trump, don't vote for him in 2028.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:24 AM (viF8m)
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>>>339 Sorry I'm late, my Orchestra of Unusual Instruments had a recital. My dog whistle solo really had them howling.
Posted by: tankdemon
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:24 AM (zH8im)
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You LIKE me! You really, really like me!
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 12:23 AM
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Let's not go overboard, Sally Fields. OK, go ahead - it did get top billing.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 12:23 AM
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Let's not go overboard, Sally Fields. OK, go ahead - it did get top billing.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:25 AM (LVaYG)
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>> Is that heat the source of the heat in the Earth's core, or is that more from radioactive decay of heavy elements in the core?
According the Grok, the tidal heating is very small in the total heat budget. The earth's internal heat fraction is about 47TW. The source of that is the heat of formation and radioactive decay. The tidal heating is about 3.7TW.
The brunt of that is dissipated into the oceans, with the remainder inside the earth. Most of this friction is with the ocean. The internal solid deformation is much smaller. So, the brunt of tidal heating is a surface thing.
According the Grok, the tidal heating is very small in the total heat budget. The earth's internal heat fraction is about 47TW. The source of that is the heat of formation and radioactive decay. The tidal heating is about 3.7TW.
The brunt of that is dissipated into the oceans, with the remainder inside the earth. Most of this friction is with the ocean. The internal solid deformation is much smaller. So, the brunt of tidal heating is a surface thing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:27 AM (w6EFb)
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The internal solid deformation is much smaller. So, the brunt of tidal heating is a surface thing.
Posted by: publius
The Paolo, he does not understand this, but he knows it is true.
Posted by: publius
The Paolo, he does not understand this, but he knows it is true.
Posted by: Paolo at July 13, 2025 12:31 AM (DgGvY)
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For some mindboggling numbers, earth's total heat input, insolation (less what is reflected) + internal heat dissipation to the surface is 121 PW, 121,000 TW.
Tidal heating is but 0.003% of that YUGE number.
For some mindboggling numbers, earth's total heat input, insolation (less what is reflected) + internal heat dissipation to the surface is 121 PW, 121,000 TW.
Tidal heating is but 0.003% of that YUGE number.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:31 AM (w6EFb)
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Has it occured to you that Trump might know things you don't and that's why he came out again today, forcefully, supporting Bondi and saying this issue is closed as far as he is concerned?
Posted by: JackStraw
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It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?
Has it occured to you that Trump might know things you don't and that's why he came out again today, forcefully, supporting Bondi and saying this issue is closed as far as he is concerned?
Posted by: JackStraw
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It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:31 AM (9pzfg)
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Heat of Formation was a song by Asia.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:32 AM (63Dwl)
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Children are still children no matter where they are from.
And you can still injure yourself bending down to smack them. Y
And you can still injure yourself bending down to smack them. Y
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 12:33 AM (8tkni)
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Speaking of dancing, we did a little bit tonight at my nephew's wedding reception. We took part in the anniversary dance, and my SiL's parents had everyone beat by being married for 55 years. Her dad slipped in a polka tune and did a surprisingly lively dance, given the state of his wife's hip. My family is far more German than Pooky's, so we clapped and cheered at the polka.
Posted by: please don't ask pookysgirl to play the accordion at July 13, 2025 12:33 AM (PPB1b)
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So the fact we had a huge budget surplus last month when the "experts" said the economy would tank, the border is sealed, Iran will never have nukes, my taxes aren't going up, illegals are being sent to Sudan and on and on and on doesn't matter because Hillary isn't in chains?
That's kind of weird way of looking at the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (viF8m)
Words mean things and you used the word "win". I think it should be reserved for victory, a state in which the enemy is vanquished. If you want to use it for like a game of tennis, I suppose you can, but I don't really care until the match is done.
I am not excited about a budget surplus unless it is going to be used to pay down the debt, and that can be celebrated once it is entirely gone. Nothing has been done which would prevent the mullahs from getting nukes. They've been set back and it will be their sons who have the next shot at it, but they are still there and are going to try again when they have an opportunity.
As to the rest, I have a hard time celebrating tens of thousands of invaders being shown the door, when Trump sounds like he's looking for an excuse to let tens of millions stay.
That's kind of weird way of looking at the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (viF8m)
Words mean things and you used the word "win". I think it should be reserved for victory, a state in which the enemy is vanquished. If you want to use it for like a game of tennis, I suppose you can, but I don't really care until the match is done.
I am not excited about a budget surplus unless it is going to be used to pay down the debt, and that can be celebrated once it is entirely gone. Nothing has been done which would prevent the mullahs from getting nukes. They've been set back and it will be their sons who have the next shot at it, but they are still there and are going to try again when they have an opportunity.
As to the rest, I have a hard time celebrating tens of thousands of invaders being shown the door, when Trump sounds like he's looking for an excuse to let tens of millions stay.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:33 AM (zLwRl)
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350 Speaking of dancing, we did a little bit tonight at my nephew's wedding reception. We took part in the anniversary dance, and my SiL's parents had everyone beat by being married for 55 years. Her dad slipped in a polka tune and did a surprisingly lively dance, given the state of his wife's hip. My family is far more German than Pooky's, so we clapped and cheered at the polka.
Posted by: please don't ask pookysgirl to play the accordion at July 13, 2025 12:33
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Congrats to your nephew. And the 55yr parents. Always an interesting mix of fun at wedding receptions.
Posted by: please don't ask pookysgirl to play the accordion at July 13, 2025 12:33
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Congrats to your nephew. And the 55yr parents. Always an interesting mix of fun at wedding receptions.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:35 AM (LVaYG)
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I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Bridge of the Gods is in Oregon.😋
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Bridge of the Gods is in Oregon.😋
Posted by: buddhaha at July 13, 2025 12:37 AM (n3kHr)
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The 4L80E is the big brother to the 4L60E. Think of it as the 4-speed overdrive successor to the TH400, just as the 4L60E was a successor to the TH350. Bigger, and stronger.
I will say the 6-speed automatic in my 2008 Suburban has been very reliable for 330,000 km. Over 200,000 miles. If I were going to build a big-power hotrod using GM components, I would that tranmission or the 4L80E.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
You aren't wrong.
The TH350 would be temporary until the 700r4.
I would rather have a 2004r, but they seem hard to find in an affordable non-rebuilt state.
That is for the GM car.
Controlling a 4L80E in a vehicle from the 60's requires additional doohickeys and will require other modifications to the vehicle or driveline which I'd like to avoid.
This is for an F100 that would not see a lot of use.
I will say the 6-speed automatic in my 2008 Suburban has been very reliable for 330,000 km. Over 200,000 miles. If I were going to build a big-power hotrod using GM components, I would that tranmission or the 4L80E.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
You aren't wrong.
The TH350 would be temporary until the 700r4.
I would rather have a 2004r, but they seem hard to find in an affordable non-rebuilt state.
That is for the GM car.
Controlling a 4L80E in a vehicle from the 60's requires additional doohickeys and will require other modifications to the vehicle or driveline which I'd like to avoid.
This is for an F100 that would not see a lot of use.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:38 AM (elaR+)
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>> And would adding a largish moon to Mars and/or Venus help in any way to terraform those planets?
That I do not know much about. Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards. A solar day on Venus works about to be about 116 earth days, about half of the Venusian year. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. You can work out that with it's retrograde rotation vs the sidereal year.
This is a big problem for earth-like conditions. However, I remember some interesting stuff. First, imagine we somehow blow away that thick atmosphere and replace it with an earth atmosphere. Now, we ask what balance of water vapor, vs total pressure would be good, and how would the climate respond. We need surface water to drive a cycle, O2, and all that.
I remember a long session with Grok about this, and I'll try to find it. This was in relation to some possible exoplanet climates.
That I do not know much about. Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards. A solar day on Venus works about to be about 116 earth days, about half of the Venusian year. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. You can work out that with it's retrograde rotation vs the sidereal year.
This is a big problem for earth-like conditions. However, I remember some interesting stuff. First, imagine we somehow blow away that thick atmosphere and replace it with an earth atmosphere. Now, we ask what balance of water vapor, vs total pressure would be good, and how would the climate respond. We need surface water to drive a cycle, O2, and all that.
I remember a long session with Grok about this, and I'll try to find it. This was in relation to some possible exoplanet climates.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:39 AM (w6EFb)
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It's not a distraction at all. It's a fact. Children are still children no matter where they are from.
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Of course it's a distraction *to the discussion we are having*.
You are clearly trying to change the topic to anything other than what is apparently Trump's decision to protect Epstein's clients and his handlers from further public scrutiny.
You say that maybe he knows more, but I can make the same 8 dimensional chess argument by claiming that obviously he knows his position is completely unacceptable and designed to bring more attention to the topic as it is doing this weekend.
For whatever reason.
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Of course it's a distraction *to the discussion we are having*.
You are clearly trying to change the topic to anything other than what is apparently Trump's decision to protect Epstein's clients and his handlers from further public scrutiny.
You say that maybe he knows more, but I can make the same 8 dimensional chess argument by claiming that obviously he knows his position is completely unacceptable and designed to bring more attention to the topic as it is doing this weekend.
For whatever reason.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:39 AM (zLwRl)
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Now, Mars. First we need to add atmosphere there, and then we need to get a magnetic field kick started. This is a problem.
And Venus doesn't have intrinsic field either. But the think atmosphere has an induced field due to the solar wind. This would also be a problem if we blew away the thick atmosphere for an earth-like one.
Now, Mars. First we need to add atmosphere there, and then we need to get a magnetic field kick started. This is a problem.
And Venus doesn't have intrinsic field either. But the think atmosphere has an induced field due to the solar wind. This would also be a problem if we blew away the thick atmosphere for an earth-like one.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:40 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:41 AM (63Dwl)
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Congrats to your nephew. And the 55yr parents. Always an interesting mix of fun at wedding receptions.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:35 AM (LVaYG)
The part that weirds me out is that he didn't marry someone like his mom, or grandmas, or anyone else... except for me. His new bride has my same mannerisms, even looks like me, and dresses like me. I helped raise him when he was very young, so that must've had an impact.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:35 AM (LVaYG)
The part that weirds me out is that he didn't marry someone like his mom, or grandmas, or anyone else... except for me. His new bride has my same mannerisms, even looks like me, and dresses like me. I helped raise him when he was very young, so that must've had an impact.
Posted by: pookysgirl, leaving her mark on future generations at July 13, 2025 12:42 AM (PPB1b)
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>>It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?
Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.
Epstein was a CIA asset. That is who we have been at war with for decades, our own duplicitous government that has put us in bad places. He also worked for foreign intel organizations. He likely did a lot of very shady shit on behalf of our government and others that would be very damaging if released.
But he's dead. Maxwell is in prison.
What happened to those girls was horrific. How would it get any better for them, not us, but them, if this kept going on?
Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.
Epstein was a CIA asset. That is who we have been at war with for decades, our own duplicitous government that has put us in bad places. He also worked for foreign intel organizations. He likely did a lot of very shady shit on behalf of our government and others that would be very damaging if released.
But he's dead. Maxwell is in prison.
What happened to those girls was horrific. How would it get any better for them, not us, but them, if this kept going on?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:45 AM (viF8m)
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Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards.
You get younger every day.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:41 AM
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Elon, how 'bout a switch. Mars = meh. Let's go for Venus.
Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards.
You get younger every day.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:41 AM
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Elon, how 'bout a switch. Mars = meh. Let's go for Venus.
Posted by: 29 yr old AoS Crew at July 13, 2025 12:45 AM (LVaYG)
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A solar day on Venus works about to be about 116 earth days, about half of the Venusian year.
When's your birthday? Today or tomorrow?
When's your birthday? Today or tomorrow?
Posted by: mikeski likes the simplicity of that at July 13, 2025 12:49 AM (DgGvY)
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And Venus doesn't have intrinsic field either. But the think atmosphere has an induced field due to the solar wind. This would also be a problem if we blew away the thick atmosphere for an earth-like one.
Posted by: publius
Meanwhile, we can dig that Venus rhymes with penis.
Posted by: publius
Meanwhile, we can dig that Venus rhymes with penis.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 12:49 AM (NXz8h)
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You aren't wrong.
The TH350 would be temporary until the 700r4.
I would rather have a 2004r, but they seem hard to find in an affordable non-rebuilt state.
That is for the GM car.
Controlling a 4L80E in a vehicle from the 60's requires additional doohickeys and will require other modifications to the vehicle or driveline which I'd like to avoid.
This is for an F100 that would not see a lot of use.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:38 AM (elaR+)
The 200-4R is a fairly close-ratio box, with low gear closer to second than the 700R4, and an overdrive that's not so tall. (IIRC) I have an Avanti that has had a McKinnon 283 transplanted into it (same as Chevy 283, but built at the McKinnon engine plant in Ontario, and sold to Studebaker to be used in '65 and '66 cars). It currently runs a TH350, which has a bad converter drain-back problem. Otherwise it drives fine. And the car has the wrong rear axle in it, a Dana 27, which is mos' too light, as the song goes. I have a rebuilt 700R4 on the floor of the shop, and also a proper Dana 44 rear axle for the Avanti, with the sway bar and traction bar brackets on it. And it's a 3.73 ratio, which should work fine.
The TH350 would be temporary until the 700r4.
I would rather have a 2004r, but they seem hard to find in an affordable non-rebuilt state.
That is for the GM car.
Controlling a 4L80E in a vehicle from the 60's requires additional doohickeys and will require other modifications to the vehicle or driveline which I'd like to avoid.
This is for an F100 that would not see a lot of use.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:38 AM (elaR+)
The 200-4R is a fairly close-ratio box, with low gear closer to second than the 700R4, and an overdrive that's not so tall. (IIRC) I have an Avanti that has had a McKinnon 283 transplanted into it (same as Chevy 283, but built at the McKinnon engine plant in Ontario, and sold to Studebaker to be used in '65 and '66 cars). It currently runs a TH350, which has a bad converter drain-back problem. Otherwise it drives fine. And the car has the wrong rear axle in it, a Dana 27, which is mos' too light, as the song goes. I have a rebuilt 700R4 on the floor of the shop, and also a proper Dana 44 rear axle for the Avanti, with the sway bar and traction bar brackets on it. And it's a 3.73 ratio, which should work fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:51 AM (5djiY)
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It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?
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He means, Daddy told you to go to your room, shut the door, turn out the light and go to bed.
It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?
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He means, Daddy told you to go to your room, shut the door, turn out the light and go to bed.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:51 AM (zH8im)
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Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.
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It would be nice if Trump would say something like that to us. Something that acknowledges the victims and assures us that a moral outrage isn't being dropped for the sake of convenience.
Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.
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It would be nice if Trump would say something like that to us. Something that acknowledges the victims and assures us that a moral outrage isn't being dropped for the sake of convenience.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:51 AM (9pzfg)
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>>>Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.
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And how many of them were CIA assets?
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And how many of them were CIA assets?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:54 AM (zH8im)
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Probably going to bed too early but not getting much sleep anyway.
Have a good night everyone
Have a good night everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:56 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:57 AM (zH8im)
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>>Of course it's a distraction *to the discussion we are having*.
It's the discussion you are having.
You pretend you are all about children but only the ones you want to talk about.
What happened to Epstein's victims year ago was tragic. Nothing is going to change it. Not even you.
There were about 100 of them that our government allowed to be abused. In the prior 4 years, Biden allowed 300,000 children to be abused and rescuing as many of them seems to be Trump's focus.
He's never ignored Epstein. When Epstein was arrested in Florida years ago Trump was one of the only people to come forward to testify against him. Look it up. I trust Kash, he says Epstein killed himself despite the conspiracy theories. Is he lying too?
What exactly do you think you are going to learn about Epstein? That he was CIA? That he also worked for foreign governments? That he was a pervert and Bill Clinton, the guy Epstein had a painting of in a blue dress in his home, was a visitor? We know all that.
I'm a lot more interested in gutting future commies rather than ones who are already dead.
It's the discussion you are having.
You pretend you are all about children but only the ones you want to talk about.
What happened to Epstein's victims year ago was tragic. Nothing is going to change it. Not even you.
There were about 100 of them that our government allowed to be abused. In the prior 4 years, Biden allowed 300,000 children to be abused and rescuing as many of them seems to be Trump's focus.
He's never ignored Epstein. When Epstein was arrested in Florida years ago Trump was one of the only people to come forward to testify against him. Look it up. I trust Kash, he says Epstein killed himself despite the conspiracy theories. Is he lying too?
What exactly do you think you are going to learn about Epstein? That he was CIA? That he also worked for foreign governments? That he was a pervert and Bill Clinton, the guy Epstein had a painting of in a blue dress in his home, was a visitor? We know all that.
I'm a lot more interested in gutting future commies rather than ones who are already dead.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:57 AM (viF8m)
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He means, Daddy told you to go to your room, shut the door, turn out the light and go to bed.
Posted by: Braenyard
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That's what I heard, too.
He means, Daddy told you to go to your room, shut the door, turn out the light and go to bed.
Posted by: Braenyard
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That's what I heard, too.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:58 AM (9pzfg)
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Epstein was a CIA asset. That is who we have been at war with for decades, our own duplicitous government that has put us in bad places. He also worked for foreign intel organizations. He likely did a lot of very shady shit on behalf of our government and others that would be very damaging if released.
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It would be very damaging to people and organizations (like the CIA) which very much deserve and need to be damaged for the good of essentially everyone else.
Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
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It would be very damaging to people and organizations (like the CIA) which very much deserve and need to be damaged for the good of essentially everyone else.
Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:01 AM (zLwRl)
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The 200-4R is a fairly close-ratio box, with low gear closer to second than the 700R4, and an overdrive that's not so tall. (IIRC) I have an Avanti that has had a McKinnon 283 transplanted into it (same as Chevy 283, but built at the McKinnon engine plant in Ontario, and sold to Studebaker to be used in '65 and '66 cars). It currently runs a TH350, which has a bad converter drain-back problem. Otherwise it drives fine. And the car has the wrong rear axle in it, a Dana 27, which is mos' too light, as the song goes. I have a rebuilt 700R4 on the floor of the shop, and also a proper Dana 44 rear axle for the Avanti, with the sway bar and traction bar brackets on it. And it's a 3.73 ratio, which should work fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Avanti. There's a name you dont hear a lot these days.
A number of the Buick Grand National Guys and even non Buick GN guys say go with a 2004r for the reasons you mentioned.
Buuuuuut, I probably won't have 3k anytime soon to buy said transmission.
So used /rebuilt TH350 to start.
Baby steps and maybe I'll have the project done while I'm still allowed to drive.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Avanti. There's a name you dont hear a lot these days.
A number of the Buick Grand National Guys and even non Buick GN guys say go with a 2004r for the reasons you mentioned.
Buuuuuut, I probably won't have 3k anytime soon to buy said transmission.
So used /rebuilt TH350 to start.
Baby steps and maybe I'll have the project done while I'm still allowed to drive.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 01:04 AM (elaR+)
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Megyn Kelly on Dershowitz and Virginia Giuffre:
We know Allan very well. We covered very very closely Virginia [Virginia Giuffre] Grey's sic accusations against him. He came on the show when it was in its infancy and we did a very deep dive into all of it. Allan has been totally exonerated on those accusations.
He disproved this woman's accusations with actual receipts and plane tickets and so on. None of it held up and ultimately, not surprisingly, she withdrew her suit against him and confessed she may have confused him with someone else, which is the best you're going to get as a guy who gets accused in these cases falsely.
_Megyn Kelly
We know Allan very well. We covered very very closely Virginia [Virginia Giuffre] Grey's sic accusations against him. He came on the show when it was in its infancy and we did a very deep dive into all of it. Allan has been totally exonerated on those accusations.
He disproved this woman's accusations with actual receipts and plane tickets and so on. None of it held up and ultimately, not surprisingly, she withdrew her suit against him and confessed she may have confused him with someone else, which is the best you're going to get as a guy who gets accused in these cases falsely.
_Megyn Kelly
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:07 AM (zH8im)
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I was watching YouTube videos about crazy news out of China. Some kindergarten was using lead-based paint or lead-based pigments to make the food more colorful being feed to the kids. Apparently, This was being used to demonstrate to the parents how great everything was at this school. Until the kids started getting sick.
Eventually the parents started figuring out the school was killing their kids with lead poisoning. Being Chicom land, the authorities couldn't have a scandal so they tried to cover it up by forcing a local hospital to issue fake test results when parents brought their kids to be checked for lead poisoning.
I do have to say the food in the brochures was rather colorful.
Eventually the parents started figuring out the school was killing their kids with lead poisoning. Being Chicom land, the authorities couldn't have a scandal so they tried to cover it up by forcing a local hospital to issue fake test results when parents brought their kids to be checked for lead poisoning.
I do have to say the food in the brochures was rather colorful.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 01:07 AM (NXz8h)
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>>It would be very damaging to people and organizations (like the CIA) which very much deserve and need to be damaged for the good of essentially everyone else.
>>Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
Of course. But sometimes the mines you set off don't just hurt the enemy.
Trump is now the President of the United States. He owns everything that this country has done, good and bad. And he's a deal maker.
When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?
>>Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
Of course. But sometimes the mines you set off don't just hurt the enemy.
Trump is now the President of the United States. He owns everything that this country has done, good and bad. And he's a deal maker.
When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:07 AM (viF8m)
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Well, I am done for the night. Be well, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 01:12 AM (5djiY)
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G'night, AOP.
Posted by: 29 yr old AoS Crew at July 13, 2025 01:13 AM (LVaYG)
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Off young feller sock. Damnit.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (LVaYG)
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>>>Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
Posted by: Methos
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This is the art of war. Sometimes one loses a battle. Takes the loss and moves to a better position. It would be good for these crooks to be exposed. However, maybe they will be exposed in a more practical/no so mysterious way.
Trump in no way has given up on draining the swamp. Bank on it.
Posted by: Methos
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This is the art of war. Sometimes one loses a battle. Takes the loss and moves to a better position. It would be good for these crooks to be exposed. However, maybe they will be exposed in a more practical/no so mysterious way.
Trump in no way has given up on draining the swamp. Bank on it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (zH8im)
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Have a good night, AOP.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 01:16 AM (elaR+)
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Trump in no way has given up on draining the swamp. Bank on it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (zH8im)
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I agree. This place is more dialed in than most, but isn't fully read in. There is some jiu jitsu going on that is not making it to the public. He is moving fast.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (zH8im)
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I agree. This place is more dialed in than most, but isn't fully read in. There is some jiu jitsu going on that is not making it to the public. He is moving fast.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 01:17 AM (LVaYG)
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It got very little coverage in our media, of course, but around the time the idiotic war in Ukraine started Putin sent troops into Kazakhstan to put down what was called a "grassroots uprising". It was a color revolution and at the time Putin said he would not permit any more color revolutions in former Soviet states. This was after he watched the CIA take down Ukraine.
Does anyone really believe that an intel agent like Epstein wasn't known by every foreign government around the world or is just us morons on a blog who have noticed?
Does anyone really believe that an intel agent like Epstein wasn't known by every foreign government around the world or is just us morons on a blog who have noticed?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)
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Does anyone really believe that an intel agent like Epstein wasn't known by every foreign government around the world or is just us morons on a blog who have noticed?
Posted by: JackStraw
Considering he was supposedly the bagman for an arms dealer, not really.
Dumber question; if they played footsie with him, and he got caught, why wouldn't every single piece of kompromat have been erased? I mean were talking super-sneaky uber spies, right?
Posted by: JackStraw
Considering he was supposedly the bagman for an arms dealer, not really.
Dumber question; if they played footsie with him, and he got caught, why wouldn't every single piece of kompromat have been erased? I mean were talking super-sneaky uber spies, right?
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>>Considering he was supposedly the bagman for an arms dealer, not really.
He worked for Adnan Khashoggi during Reagan's arms for hostage deal.
A lot of uncomfortable truths will come out the deeper people dig on this.
He worked for Adnan Khashoggi during Reagan's arms for hostage deal.
A lot of uncomfortable truths will come out the deeper people dig on this.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:25 AM (viF8m)
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Of course. But sometimes the mines you set off don't just hurt the enemy.
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Name one person who could be implicated as an Epstein client or handler who's worth keeping the secret over. I can't think of anyone.
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When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?
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What gold card are you thinking of here? Someone else upthread suggested Trump can now use the blackmail material to his advantage, but I don't want to attribute that to you if you don't agree with it.
I have to wonder though, what value is that blackmail material any more? Having officially declared there's no there there with Epstein island, you can't release one incriminating video that's sourced from it, because then you're the villain sitting on all that shit.
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Name one person who could be implicated as an Epstein client or handler who's worth keeping the secret over. I can't think of anyone.
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When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?
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What gold card are you thinking of here? Someone else upthread suggested Trump can now use the blackmail material to his advantage, but I don't want to attribute that to you if you don't agree with it.
I have to wonder though, what value is that blackmail material any more? Having officially declared there's no there there with Epstein island, you can't release one incriminating video that's sourced from it, because then you're the villain sitting on all that shit.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:27 AM (zLwRl)
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Pretty quiet, except for the 8 billion frogs outside.
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One of my favorite sounds - frogs at night.
Good evening all - very entertaining ONT - thank you to our hosts.
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One of my favorite sounds - frogs at night.
Good evening all - very entertaining ONT - thank you to our hosts.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 01:28 AM (PcTds)
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Thanks Horde. Have a good night/morn. No JQ, no Miklos to lock the place up tonight. Avoid late night texting and caffeine.
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 01:30 AM (LVaYG)
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>>>@paulsperry_ 5h
Alex Soros has funneled $24 mil to the NYC mayoral campaign of Muslim Zohran Mamdani thru his fundraising arm Working Families,which means Soros' wife HUMA ABEDIN,whose parents are Muslim Brotherhood, "will control the mayor of NY," a lawyer investigating Abedin told me
Alex Soros has funneled $24 mil to the NYC mayoral campaign of Muslim Zohran Mamdani thru his fundraising arm Working Families,which means Soros' wife HUMA ABEDIN,whose parents are Muslim Brotherhood, "will control the mayor of NY," a lawyer investigating Abedin told me
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:31 AM (zH8im)
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388 Thanks Horde. Have a good night/morn. No JQ, no Miklos to lock the place up tonight. Avoid late night texting and caffeine.
Posted by: scampydog
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We've been jilted.
Morticia's out there but I think she's distracted.
Posted by: scampydog
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We've been jilted.
Morticia's out there but I think she's distracted.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:35 AM (zH8im)
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Alex Soros has funneled $24 mil to the NYC mayoral campaign of Muslim Zohran Mamdani thru his fundraising arm Working Families,which means Soros' wife HUMA ABEDIN,whose parents are Muslim Brotherhood, "will control the mayor of NY," a lawyer investigating Abedin told me
Posted by: Braenyard
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Sperry may be taking an extra, unnecessary step there. The Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni, while Mamdani would be Shi'i. Those two are traditionally as hostile to each other as each is to Jews. 'Soros has thrown in his lot with Mamdani' is where I'd cut off the paper trail. It's bad enough.
Alex Soros has funneled $24 mil to the NYC mayoral campaign of Muslim Zohran Mamdani thru his fundraising arm Working Families,which means Soros' wife HUMA ABEDIN,whose parents are Muslim Brotherhood, "will control the mayor of NY," a lawyer investigating Abedin told me
Posted by: Braenyard
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Sperry may be taking an extra, unnecessary step there. The Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni, while Mamdani would be Shi'i. Those two are traditionally as hostile to each other as each is to Jews. 'Soros has thrown in his lot with Mamdani' is where I'd cut off the paper trail. It's bad enough.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:38 AM (9pzfg)
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>>I have to wonder though, what value is that blackmail material any more? Having officially declared there's no there there with Epstein island, you can't release one incriminating video that's sourced from it, because then you're the villain sitting on all that shit.
I don't think it's blackmail at all. It's about removing pieces.
Epstein was a scumbag from previous administrations. There is no excusing what he did or more importantly what our government either sanctioned or allowed him to do.
Trump is trying to right this country after years of the insane clown party running it. His biggest negotiating hammer is our economy and moral high ground. Kind of hard to argue the latter when Epstein in the news everday.
The DOJ under Bondi is arresting child predators every single day. Go on X and you will see it. No serious person can claim Trump is soft of this issue. Epstein was a spook and he worked for the feds. That's the difference.
I don't think it's blackmail at all. It's about removing pieces.
Epstein was a scumbag from previous administrations. There is no excusing what he did or more importantly what our government either sanctioned or allowed him to do.
Trump is trying to right this country after years of the insane clown party running it. His biggest negotiating hammer is our economy and moral high ground. Kind of hard to argue the latter when Epstein in the news everday.
The DOJ under Bondi is arresting child predators every single day. Go on X and you will see it. No serious person can claim Trump is soft of this issue. Epstein was a spook and he worked for the feds. That's the difference.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:38 AM (viF8m)
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When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?
By that logic, no president will ever expose the CIA. Or any other organization whose exposure will give the US a black eye.
No thanks. Its not just fine to cover this up simply because now its Trump in office.
By that logic, no president will ever expose the CIA. Or any other organization whose exposure will give the US a black eye.
No thanks. Its not just fine to cover this up simply because now its Trump in office.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 01:39 AM (1GlUt)
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Morticia's out there but I think she's distracted.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I was loading the dishwasher.
Morticia's out there but I think she's distracted.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I was loading the dishwasher.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:40 AM (9pzfg)
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Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer.
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Our cats loved those treats.
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Our cats loved those treats.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 01:41 AM (PcTds)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:43 AM (viF8m)
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Just so people know, Foghat for a while now has basically been a tribute band that owns the rights to the name. The only original member is the drummer, the singer and slide guitar player that made them Foghat are both dead.
Posted by: azjaeger at July 13, 2025 01:43 AM (3/XaG)
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Also, pro wrestling is fake and incredibly gay.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:44 AM (viF8m)
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I would like transparency on Epstein because I think the data he collected is used for blackmail. So whoever controls the data has control over much of our government. If true, those being blackmailed cannot be reliable public servants but rather serve the holder of the data. To me this is an immense problem for a country that claims to be a constitutional republic.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 01:47 AM (PcTds)
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Spaniards have been wounded after being hit in the face by rocks thrown by Moroccan migrants in Torre Pacecho in south-eastern Spain.
Ethnic clashes have been taking place there since some Moroccans beat up a 70-y-old man for fun 3 days ago
Several short clips of Moroccans and Spaniards chasing each other, can't tell who's who.
https://xcancel.com/visegrad24
Ethnic clashes have been taking place there since some Moroccans beat up a 70-y-old man for fun 3 days ago
Several short clips of Moroccans and Spaniards chasing each other, can't tell who's who.
https://xcancel.com/visegrad24
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:47 AM (zH8im)
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State department layoff victims are fake and gay.
https://x.com/ThomasSowell/status/
1944143478528913673
State department layoff victims are fake and gay.
https://x.com/ThomasSowell/status/
1944143478528913673
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:48 AM (9pzfg)
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Just so people know, Foghat for a while now has basically been a tribute band that owns the rights to the name.
Trying to keep up with the lineup of Foghat was more complicated than the character list in Game of Thrones.
Trying to keep up with the lineup of Foghat was more complicated than the character list in Game of Thrones.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 01:51 AM (1GlUt)
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Emmanuel Macron announced the creation of the state of New Caledonia as part of France
Paris and New Caledonia announced a “historic” agreement under which the overseas territory will remain French but be declared a new state.
The autonomy of the overseas territory will expand. Certain sovereign powers will gradually transfer to local authorities. In particular, the new entity will exercise full jurisdiction in international relations within its powers, except defense and security.
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Europe is going broke and insane. We must buy Greenland now to save it.
Paris and New Caledonia announced a “historic” agreement under which the overseas territory will remain French but be declared a new state.
The autonomy of the overseas territory will expand. Certain sovereign powers will gradually transfer to local authorities. In particular, the new entity will exercise full jurisdiction in international relations within its powers, except defense and security.
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Europe is going broke and insane. We must buy Greenland now to save it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:53 AM (zH8im)
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>>I would like transparency on Epstein because I think the data he collected is used for blackmail. So whoever controls the data has control over much of our government. If true, those being blackmailed cannot be reliable public servants but rather serve the holder of the data. To me this is an immense problem for a country that claims to be a constitutional republic.
It's not much of a mystery. It was the CIA.
About a week ago, the current CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, blew up the Russia hoax and now we know Brennan and Comey are under criminal investigation.
Can you imagine how different the world would be if the media was on our side or even neutral and just reporterd facts like this?
It's not much of a mystery. It was the CIA.
About a week ago, the current CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, blew up the Russia hoax and now we know Brennan and Comey are under criminal investigation.
Can you imagine how different the world would be if the media was on our side or even neutral and just reporterd facts like this?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:55 AM (viF8m)
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State department layoff victims are fake and gay.
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They all appear so professional I'm sure they will have no problem securing new employment.
State department layoff victims are fake and gay.
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They all appear so professional I'm sure they will have no problem securing new employment.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:59 AM (zH8im)
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His biggest negotiating hammer is our economy and moral high ground. Kind of hard to argue the latter when Epstein in the news everday.
The DOJ under Bondi is arresting child predators every single day. Go on X and you will see it. No serious person can claim Trump is soft of this issue. Epstein was a spook and he worked for the feds. That's the difference.
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Yes, that is the difference.
You don't recover the moral high ground by sweeping the evil under the rug and demanding everyone pretend it away.
You recover the moral high ground by burning everyone who's even remotely culpable in Epstein's schemes to prove that we don't stand for that.
The DOJ under Bondi is arresting child predators every single day. Go on X and you will see it. No serious person can claim Trump is soft of this issue. Epstein was a spook and he worked for the feds. That's the difference.
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Yes, that is the difference.
You don't recover the moral high ground by sweeping the evil under the rug and demanding everyone pretend it away.
You recover the moral high ground by burning everyone who's even remotely culpable in Epstein's schemes to prove that we don't stand for that.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 02:00 AM (zLwRl)
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It's not much of a mystery. It was the CIA.
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Was the cia? Or *is* the cia? And is it being used to manipulate events now?
Are the intelligence agencies running our country or are our elected representatives?
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Was the cia? Or *is* the cia? And is it being used to manipulate events now?
Are the intelligence agencies running our country or are our elected representatives?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:01 AM (PcTds)
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>>>A major ethnic conflict has broken out in Torre-Pacheco in south-eastern Spain.
Spaniards and Moroccans have been clashing over the past few days. The conflict started with a group of young Moroccans beating up a 70-year-old Spaniard named Domingo for fun.
2000 Spanish locals and Spaniards from across the country took to the streets of Torre-Pacheco yesterday for a demonstration meant to show that enough is enough. It was followed by clashes between the two groups.
Today, Moroccans from across the region have travelled to Torre-Pacheco to reinforce the local Moroccans. The spiral of violence is just getting worse.
The picture shows Domingo after the assault.
https://tinyurl.com/yd52xfd2
Spaniards and Moroccans have been clashing over the past few days. The conflict started with a group of young Moroccans beating up a 70-year-old Spaniard named Domingo for fun.
2000 Spanish locals and Spaniards from across the country took to the streets of Torre-Pacheco yesterday for a demonstration meant to show that enough is enough. It was followed by clashes between the two groups.
Today, Moroccans from across the region have travelled to Torre-Pacheco to reinforce the local Moroccans. The spiral of violence is just getting worse.
The picture shows Domingo after the assault.
https://tinyurl.com/yd52xfd2
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:02 AM (zH8im)
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State department layoff victims are fake and gay.
I always shake my head at the thought of generations of Americans believing in these vast bureaucracies full of selfless, apolitical servants dedicated to nothing but the betterment of the country.
Because only the entirety of recorded history indicates that human nature is nothing of the sort.
I always shake my head at the thought of generations of Americans believing in these vast bureaucracies full of selfless, apolitical servants dedicated to nothing but the betterment of the country.
Because only the entirety of recorded history indicates that human nature is nothing of the sort.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:03 AM (1GlUt)
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And now I've caught up to the comments.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:03 AM (PcTds)
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Emmanuel Macron announced the creation of the state of New Caledonia as part of France
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I don't understand deals like this. New Caledonia won't be French anymore but it will remain French.
Emmanuel Macron announced the creation of the state of New Caledonia as part of France
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I don't understand deals like this. New Caledonia won't be French anymore but it will remain French.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 02:04 AM (9pzfg)
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We must buy Greenland now to save it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:53 AM (zH8im)
To help with buying it. I have credible Intel that the Greenlandians are sheltering Moose Limb terrorists and they are rendering down blubber to produce Weapons of Mass Destruction. We must invade now!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:53 AM (zH8im)
To help with buying it. I have credible Intel that the Greenlandians are sheltering Moose Limb terrorists and they are rendering down blubber to produce Weapons of Mass Destruction. We must invade now!
Posted by: Miss Lindsey at July 13, 2025 02:05 AM (kuWOS)
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>>Was the cia? Or *is* the cia? And is it being used to manipulate events now?
>>Are the intelligence agencies running our country or are our elected representatives
They have been basically running our government for decades. That's the real fight that is going on no matter what the media says.
That's why it was kind of a big deal that the Director of the CIA called out the previous director for basically treason.
We have another real problem on our side. We say we don't care about the media but we only seem to care about stuff the media shrieks about.
Yea, Ratcliffe accusing the former directors of the FBI and CIA of treason is kind of a big deal even if the media doesn't say so.
>>Are the intelligence agencies running our country or are our elected representatives
They have been basically running our government for decades. That's the real fight that is going on no matter what the media says.
That's why it was kind of a big deal that the Director of the CIA called out the previous director for basically treason.
We have another real problem on our side. We say we don't care about the media but we only seem to care about stuff the media shrieks about.
Yea, Ratcliffe accusing the former directors of the FBI and CIA of treason is kind of a big deal even if the media doesn't say so.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 02:07 AM (viF8m)
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If we do not invade Greenland, Vlad Putin will have won!
Posted by: Miss Lindsey at July 13, 2025 02:08 AM (kuWOS)
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Interesting weather here this summer. Summer like days interspersed with October like days.
I haven't gone out in the kayak yet. Better make myself go out on the next nice day. We have one crazy guy who goes out in the October weather with a paddle board and sail. Is that para sailing?
I haven't gone out in the kayak yet. Better make myself go out on the next nice day. We have one crazy guy who goes out in the October weather with a paddle board and sail. Is that para sailing?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:08 AM (PcTds)
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Somethings up, usual sources of news tidbits are full antogist on Trump/Epstein, Trump and the poor people fired at State, who look like they work for mik (nothing personal) at Waffle House.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:09 AM (zH8im)
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You don't recover the moral high ground by sweeping the evil under the rug and demanding everyone pretend it away.
Apparently you must sweep it under the rug to avoid any embarrassment of Trump. I assume that applies to any other GOP President as well. Of course, we can only assume the next DNC President will also wish to avoid such embarrassment.
And thus we'll just
Apparently you must sweep it under the rug to avoid any embarrassment of Trump. I assume that applies to any other GOP President as well. Of course, we can only assume the next DNC President will also wish to avoid such embarrassment.
And thus we'll just
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:09 AM (1GlUt)
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Kindltot,
Re: canning cherries in jello, the product i would recommend is called clear jel A. Clear Jel® is a chemically modified corn starch that produces excellent sauce consistency even after fillings are canned and baked. Other available starches break down when used in these pie fillings, causing a runny sauce consistency.
You can get it on Amazon and/or sometimes from the county extension service that does canning classes. Selling 1.5# for $14.99 on Amazon now.
Re: canning cherries in jello, the product i would recommend is called clear jel A. Clear Jel® is a chemically modified corn starch that produces excellent sauce consistency even after fillings are canned and baked. Other available starches break down when used in these pie fillings, causing a runny sauce consistency.
You can get it on Amazon and/or sometimes from the county extension service that does canning classes. Selling 1.5# for $14.99 on Amazon now.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 02:11 AM (vzdCN)
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As always Jack, I appreciate the positive outlook you present.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:11 AM (PcTds)
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>>>We have another real problem on our side. We say we don't care about the media but we only seem to care about stuff the media shrieks about.
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Dog grew up chasing the chew toy. Hard to break the mindset.
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Dog grew up chasing the chew toy. Hard to break the mindset.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:11 AM (zH8im)
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And thus we'll simply pretend that Trump "reformed" the CIA - and the next nasty no good DNC administration "turned them to the Dark Side". You know - like folks who swore that Obama was lazy and shiftless yet somehow all by himself turned every Federal agency in eight short years in a manner that made Emperor Palpetine jealous.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:12 AM (1GlUt)
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Top comments of the week are a great addition to the ONTs - always entertaining.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:12 AM (PcTds)
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We had an unusually long spring here also. Haven't checked the numbers but it feels as if we've had more rain too.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:13 AM (zH8im)
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Hey Kestrel, how have you been? I read the content but skipped the comments or I'd never get here. JQ taught me a few things, I am just going to hop behind the bar and fix myself a drink. The recipe for the Texas Ranch Water reads as being quite tasty. Anybody need a drink?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 13, 2025 02:14 AM (0nHVk)
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If we do not fight the Moose Limbs in Greenland, we will be fighting them in America! We will wake up one morning and there will be a Moose Limb mayor in New York City!
Wait. What? Never mind.
Wait. What? Never mind.
Posted by: Miss Lindsey Latella at July 13, 2025 02:15 AM (kuWOS)
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>>As always Jack, I appreciate the positive outlook you present.
Thanks but I'm really not positive. The absence of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN A BALL OF FIRE" is not positive.
Read what Ratcliffe said. I'm not the one who put both Brennan and Comey under criminal investigation. If this happened to our side there would be a week of threads and hairshirts about it. When we do it to them we bitch about how we can never win.
We should try not to be battered wives. Winning is good.
Thanks but I'm really not positive. The absence of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN A BALL OF FIRE" is not positive.
Read what Ratcliffe said. I'm not the one who put both Brennan and Comey under criminal investigation. If this happened to our side there would be a week of threads and hairshirts about it. When we do it to them we bitch about how we can never win.
We should try not to be battered wives. Winning is good.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 02:18 AM (viF8m)
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And thus we'll simply pretend that Trump "reformed" the CIA - and the next nasty no good DNC administration "turned them to the Dark Side".
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Well, my solution would be to dismantle most intelligence agencies. Pretty sure I won't get what I want so I will advocate for what I want and try to be content with the progress made in the direction I want.
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Well, my solution would be to dismantle most intelligence agencies. Pretty sure I won't get what I want so I will advocate for what I want and try to be content with the progress made in the direction I want.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:19 AM (PcTds)
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>>And thus we'll simply pretend that Trump "reformed" the CIA
You could try calling USAID, Scogg.
But it no longer exists.
You could try calling USAID, Scogg.
But it no longer exists.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 02:23 AM (viF8m)
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>The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).
Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.
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And now we know why the DNC media made such a big deal about keeping "kids in cages" during Trump I.
Kids in cages are safe and can't get disappeared.
Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.
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And now we know why the DNC media made such a big deal about keeping "kids in cages" during Trump I.
Kids in cages are safe and can't get disappeared.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 02:23 AM (E0p3T)
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Hi Debby! I'm doing ok. Selling a piece of property here, getting close to the end of the process I think.
What is going on in your life?
l will try a Texas Ranch Water, please.
What is going on in your life?
l will try a Texas Ranch Water, please.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:23 AM (PcTds)
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. The absence of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN A BALL OF FIRE" is not positive
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🤣Well, it feels positive.
I would feel better about Comey and Brennan being under investigation if I thought something will come of it. I'm willing to wait and see. I'm not convinced that Ratcliffe is a good guy.
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🤣Well, it feels positive.
I would feel better about Comey and Brennan being under investigation if I thought something will come of it. I'm willing to wait and see. I'm not convinced that Ratcliffe is a good guy.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:27 AM (PcTds)
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Alright, time for me to call it a night. I'll read the rest of the thread in the morning.
Good night everyone
Peace
Good night everyone
Peace
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 02:31 AM (PcTds)
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And now we know why the DNC media made such a big deal about keeping "kids in cages" during Trump I. Kids in cages are safe and can't get disappeared.
Its the "our guy / their guy" mentality. You are seeing it on full display right now. "Our guy" can't be embarrassed, you see, so sometimes certain things must be left unsaid. For the greater good, if you will.
But now "their guy" ? Oh - there is no end to what damage he could cause, so of course nothing is off the table to stop that bastard.
We marvel at the ability of the left to hold two sets of opposed values and switch effortlessly between them according to whatever is convenient at the time. Yet we never notice when we do it ourselves.
Its the "our guy / their guy" mentality. You are seeing it on full display right now. "Our guy" can't be embarrassed, you see, so sometimes certain things must be left unsaid. For the greater good, if you will.
But now "their guy" ? Oh - there is no end to what damage he could cause, so of course nothing is off the table to stop that bastard.
We marvel at the ability of the left to hold two sets of opposed values and switch effortlessly between them according to whatever is convenient at the time. Yet we never notice when we do it ourselves.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:31 AM (1GlUt)
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Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:01 AM (zLwRl)
And maybe like every other time it looks like Trump is screwing up or breaking a promise, he has a decent enough reason for his actions.
BTW I mostly agree this Epstein thing is a clusterfuck, Bondi is shit and we are being handed bullshit.
However I don't think it is a catastrophic end to Trump, there is too much we don't know that he does know. And I trust Trump to prioritize because if he couldn't do that, he wouldn't have won three elections after coming out of nowhere and having the entire world, his own party, and the so-called intelligence community aligned so squarely against him.
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:01 AM (zLwRl)
And maybe like every other time it looks like Trump is screwing up or breaking a promise, he has a decent enough reason for his actions.
BTW I mostly agree this Epstein thing is a clusterfuck, Bondi is shit and we are being handed bullshit.
However I don't think it is a catastrophic end to Trump, there is too much we don't know that he does know. And I trust Trump to prioritize because if he couldn't do that, he wouldn't have won three elections after coming out of nowhere and having the entire world, his own party, and the so-called intelligence community aligned so squarely against him.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 02:33 AM (E0p3T)
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>>I would feel better about Comey and Brennan being under investigation if I thought something will come of it. I'm willing to wait and see. I'm not convinced that Ratcliffe is a good guy.
Everything comes from actions. Shit, for 2 years I was told it was idiotic to believe Trump would get elected in 2024. Boy howdy was that stupid. Ask President Kamala.
Life doesn't move in straight lines. Lots of zigs and zags. But what has been seen can't be unseen. Ratcliffe knows at least as much as we do that the CIA, like all government agencies, is corrupt.
Everything comes from actions. Shit, for 2 years I was told it was idiotic to believe Trump would get elected in 2024. Boy howdy was that stupid. Ask President Kamala.
Life doesn't move in straight lines. Lots of zigs and zags. But what has been seen can't be unseen. Ratcliffe knows at least as much as we do that the CIA, like all government agencies, is corrupt.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 02:33 AM (viF8m)
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We marvel at the ability of the left to hold two sets of opposed values and switch effortlessly between them according to whatever is convenient at the time. Yet we never notice when we do it ourselves.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:31 AM (1GlUt)
Yeah I try to watch for it, stay aware of my own failings. I'm also happy to hold opposing ideas at the same time to see which weighs more. Which is different than what you're talking about. I don't get splinters on my ass from fence sitting and I'm always happy to change my mind when shit gets handed to me that doesn't neatly fit. Why am I telling you this? I don't know. I'm waiting for a compute training to complete and it's the middle of the night with nothing but a whirring GPU to keep me company.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:31 AM (1GlUt)
Yeah I try to watch for it, stay aware of my own failings. I'm also happy to hold opposing ideas at the same time to see which weighs more. Which is different than what you're talking about. I don't get splinters on my ass from fence sitting and I'm always happy to change my mind when shit gets handed to me that doesn't neatly fit. Why am I telling you this? I don't know. I'm waiting for a compute training to complete and it's the middle of the night with nothing but a whirring GPU to keep me company.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 02:36 AM (E0p3T)
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I'm waiting for a compute training to complete and it's the middle of the night with nothing but a whirring GPU to keep me company.
Heh. We worked a half today and I screwed up and took a nap. I chose poorly.
Heh. We worked a half today and I screwed up and took a nap. I chose poorly.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:39 AM (1GlUt)
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Heh. We worked a half today and I screwed up and took a nap. I chose poorly.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:39 AM (1GlUt)
LOL, one day with some choosing poorly is better than a lifetime of it. 🍻
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 02:39 AM (1GlUt)
LOL, one day with some choosing poorly is better than a lifetime of it. 🍻
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 02:41 AM (E0p3T)
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I do think that our side has the edge in tech media though. We were the freakin' nerds. We learned this stuff while they relied upon the trusted mainstream news media which has been thoroughly discredited. Who the hell sits down to wait for David Muir every night? I have hope.
Kestrel, good night, sorry that I was so slow with a drink, it won't go to waste.
Kestrel, good night, sorry that I was so slow with a drink, it won't go to waste.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 13, 2025 02:42 AM (0nHVk)
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Just got back from fishing trip. Trying to figure out if I can market a scent of woodsmoke and old fish eggs. Because that's what everything smells like now.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 13, 2025 02:44 AM (1Gsou)
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Canadian police officer warns that people who suddenly start supporting more traditional gender roles could be turning into extremists and might become violent
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 02:50 AM (zH8im)
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I have a soft spot for DJT because he single handedly stopped Hillary and Kamala, both of whom were planned to be unleashed on us, and to deliver the final blow to whatever this American experiment is. That won't leave. No one more consequential to the fate of the world has existed in my lifetime.
But for some reason he has hired the worst of the worst attorneys general - I'll give a small break to the Sessions choice because practically no one thought he was a bad choice and it was a loyalty pick. And still a big fucking mistake. Did they have something on him...? Probably.
But there's no excuse for either Billy Barr or Bondi other than Trump literally could not get anyone else appointed due to a treacherous congress. And that's not an excuse but rather a reason.
But for some reason he has hired the worst of the worst attorneys general - I'll give a small break to the Sessions choice because practically no one thought he was a bad choice and it was a loyalty pick. And still a big fucking mistake. Did they have something on him...? Probably.
But there's no excuse for either Billy Barr or Bondi other than Trump literally could not get anyone else appointed due to a treacherous congress. And that's not an excuse but rather a reason.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 02:56 AM (E0p3T)
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Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 13, 2025 02:57 AM (4tvN6)
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>>But there's no excuse for either Billy Barr or Bondi other than Trump literally could not get anyone else appointed due to a treacherous congress. And that's not an excuse but rather a reason.
Which DOJ do you think is winning all these immigration cases? The one Bondi is running or the other one?
Which DOJ do you think is winning all these immigration cases? The one Bondi is running or the other one?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:01 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 13, 2025 03:03 AM (0nHVk)
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Which DOJ do you think is winning all these immigration cases? The one Bondi is running or the other one?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:01 AM (viF8m)
Hey I never claimed she's useless, just treacherous.
Do you think she is doing anything special here that anyone else loyal couldn't or wouldn't do, or is it just the accepted baseline?
I propose it's baseline, and that Bondi Has Electrolytes serves a different master. It will come out in the wash. Some would argue it already has.
As shown in Trump I, AG is the most important position, and although I will say so far she is better than Sessions and Barr, she is not who I want in there by a longshot.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:01 AM (viF8m)
Hey I never claimed she's useless, just treacherous.
Do you think she is doing anything special here that anyone else loyal couldn't or wouldn't do, or is it just the accepted baseline?
I propose it's baseline, and that Bondi Has Electrolytes serves a different master. It will come out in the wash. Some would argue it already has.
As shown in Trump I, AG is the most important position, and although I will say so far she is better than Sessions and Barr, she is not who I want in there by a longshot.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 03:06 AM (E0p3T)
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'night Debbie, I'm leaving soon.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:07 AM (zH8im)
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>>Hey I never claimed she's useless, just treacherous.
Yea but she's done a lot of good stuff and Trump obvioulsly likes her. Like lots of good stuff. How come none of you that hate her ever mention it?
One of the reasons we don't win more is that we have far too many on our side who seem to forget we are fighting back against an entrenched and powereful estabalishment that has run the world for decades. And when people come to fight for us we savage them if they don't do exactly what we want.
The enemy is over there. Shoot that way.
Yea but she's done a lot of good stuff and Trump obvioulsly likes her. Like lots of good stuff. How come none of you that hate her ever mention it?
One of the reasons we don't win more is that we have far too many on our side who seem to forget we are fighting back against an entrenched and powereful estabalishment that has run the world for decades. And when people come to fight for us we savage them if they don't do exactly what we want.
The enemy is over there. Shoot that way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:15 AM (viF8m)
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Here's the rub: grok, what immigration cases has pam bondi won?
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https://tinyurl.com/3bru47k5
There is limited publicly available information specifying individual immigration cases that U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi has personally won, as her role primarily involves overseeing the Department of Justice (DOJ) rather than directly litigating cases. However, based on available data, Bondi has been involved in several high-profile immigration-related legal actions since her confirmation as Attorney General on February 4, 2025. Below is a summary of notable immigration-related cases or actions associated with her tenure, focusing on outcomes where possible:
Lawsuit Against New York (Green Light Law. Outcome: As of the latest reports, this is a civil lawsuit, and no final ruling
Lawsuit Against Illinois (TRUST Act. Outcome: No specific outcome is reported
Riley v. Bondi (Supreme Court Case, Decided June 26, 2025)
Case Details: This case involved a challenge to the timing rules for appealing immigration removal orders. Outcome: The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in favor of Riley,
etc., etc.
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https://tinyurl.com/3bru47k5
There is limited publicly available information specifying individual immigration cases that U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi has personally won, as her role primarily involves overseeing the Department of Justice (DOJ) rather than directly litigating cases. However, based on available data, Bondi has been involved in several high-profile immigration-related legal actions since her confirmation as Attorney General on February 4, 2025. Below is a summary of notable immigration-related cases or actions associated with her tenure, focusing on outcomes where possible:
Lawsuit Against New York (Green Light Law. Outcome: As of the latest reports, this is a civil lawsuit, and no final ruling
Lawsuit Against Illinois (TRUST Act. Outcome: No specific outcome is reported
Riley v. Bondi (Supreme Court Case, Decided June 26, 2025)
Case Details: This case involved a challenge to the timing rules for appealing immigration removal orders. Outcome: The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in favor of Riley,
etc., etc.
cont
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:17 AM (zH8im)
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cont
Summary
Pam Bondi, as U.S. Attorney General, has been actively involved in immigration-related litigation, primarily targeting state and local policies that the DOJ claims interfere with federal immigration enforcement. However, there are no confirmed case wins in the provided data. The Riley v. Bondi case resulted in a loss for the DOJ, and other lawsuits (e.g., against New York, Illinois, and Maryland) are ongoing without reported resolutions. Bondi’s actions reflect a broader Trump administration agenda to prioritize immigration enforcement, often focusing on “sanctuary” jurisdictions and high-profile deportation cases, but specific victories in court are not documented as of July 13, 2025.
If you need more details on any specific case or want me to search for additional updates, let me know!
Summary
Pam Bondi, as U.S. Attorney General, has been actively involved in immigration-related litigation, primarily targeting state and local policies that the DOJ claims interfere with federal immigration enforcement. However, there are no confirmed case wins in the provided data. The Riley v. Bondi case resulted in a loss for the DOJ, and other lawsuits (e.g., against New York, Illinois, and Maryland) are ongoing without reported resolutions. Bondi’s actions reflect a broader Trump administration agenda to prioritize immigration enforcement, often focusing on “sanctuary” jurisdictions and high-profile deportation cases, but specific victories in court are not documented as of July 13, 2025.
If you need more details on any specific case or want me to search for additional updates, let me know!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:17 AM (zH8im)
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>>If you need more details on any specific case or want me to search for additional updates, let me know!
Can you do a search on when the Supreme Court decicded Florida gets to make immigration law like Texas doesn't?
Can you do a search on when the Supreme Court decicded Florida gets to make immigration law like Texas doesn't?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:25 AM (viF8m)
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The enemy is over there. Shoot that way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:15 AM (viF8m)
Trump can handle my criticism of his underlings. He's a big boy and gets much worse from even his own supposed side every day. You could say I'm just keeping us honest, but to me it's not about that. I call it like I see it because I rarely see it wrong.
You already insinuated I was lying when I said this once but - I was on the Trump Train and getting a giant raft of shit from here from "trusted regulars" well before you my leafy pal. You couldn't even tell people here that he *liked America* without being laughed at and accused of fronting for Hillary. And this is long after some should have known better.
As such I get to criticize him and any less than worthy hires and it's really no skin off anyone's back. He's only one man and as much as I'd like to see him burn it all down, I suggest that even you would recoil from what that would look like. The moment Trump starts making those noises our side quivers because of "the rules". Go figure.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:15 AM (viF8m)
Trump can handle my criticism of his underlings. He's a big boy and gets much worse from even his own supposed side every day. You could say I'm just keeping us honest, but to me it's not about that. I call it like I see it because I rarely see it wrong.
You already insinuated I was lying when I said this once but - I was on the Trump Train and getting a giant raft of shit from here from "trusted regulars" well before you my leafy pal. You couldn't even tell people here that he *liked America* without being laughed at and accused of fronting for Hillary. And this is long after some should have known better.
As such I get to criticize him and any less than worthy hires and it's really no skin off anyone's back. He's only one man and as much as I'd like to see him burn it all down, I suggest that even you would recoil from what that would look like. The moment Trump starts making those noises our side quivers because of "the rules". Go figure.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 03:27 AM (E0p3T)
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Heading north this AM. Spent yesterday installing whip mounts at our boat slip. Lost a drill bit under the walkway in the process. Hot and miserable work it was.
The remainder of the day was spent moving the boundary timbers in our largest garden bed to cut its square footage by about one third, which already was mostly grass anyway. I'll borrow our neighbor's mower before we leave to cut the newly reclassified lawn area so the guy who does our lawn will know its good to go for him, also. This, too, was hot and miserable work.
All that said, it was no wonder that I fell asleep in the chair for going on nearly three hours this evening.
Consider this my, "Adios!"
Heading north this AM. Spent yesterday installing whip mounts at our boat slip. Lost a drill bit under the walkway in the process. Hot and miserable work it was.
The remainder of the day was spent moving the boundary timbers in our largest garden bed to cut its square footage by about one third, which already was mostly grass anyway. I'll borrow our neighbor's mower before we leave to cut the newly reclassified lawn area so the guy who does our lawn will know its good to go for him, also. This, too, was hot and miserable work.
All that said, it was no wonder that I fell asleep in the chair for going on nearly three hours this evening.
Consider this my, "Adios!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 03:32 AM (Tv15w)
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Can you do a search on when the Supreme Court decicded Florida gets to make immigration law like Texas doesn't?
Posted by: JackStraw
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You said, "446 Which DOJ do you think is winning all these immigration cases? The one Bondi is running or the other one?
Posted by: JackStraw"
The answer is NONE.
You want grok to answer your question you ask it.
Bondi's acumen is exemplified by her successes and her derision is earned.
Posted by: JackStraw
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You said, "446 Which DOJ do you think is winning all these immigration cases? The one Bondi is running or the other one?
Posted by: JackStraw"
The answer is NONE.
You want grok to answer your question you ask it.
Bondi's acumen is exemplified by her successes and her derision is earned.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:32 AM (zH8im)
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>>Trump can handle my criticism of his underlings.
Without a doubt. I don't think he gives a shit what you, I or anyone says.
Has nothing to do with your criticism of Bondi who is doing a great job defending the lawfare by the leftwing establishment. It's facts which you ignore. Look at the court cases.
The best illegal immigration enforcement we've ever had is going on right now. Bondi is the AG. Trump likes her. Epstein is dead and Maxwell is in prison.
Without a doubt. I don't think he gives a shit what you, I or anyone says.
Has nothing to do with your criticism of Bondi who is doing a great job defending the lawfare by the leftwing establishment. It's facts which you ignore. Look at the court cases.
The best illegal immigration enforcement we've ever had is going on right now. Bondi is the AG. Trump likes her. Epstein is dead and Maxwell is in prison.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:35 AM (viF8m)
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Consider this my, "Adios!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh!
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Hey, whoa. Be sure and keep in touch, tell us of your journey and as always participate in the current bruhaha. Good sailing and safe journeys.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh!
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Hey, whoa. Be sure and keep in touch, tell us of your journey and as always participate in the current bruhaha. Good sailing and safe journeys.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:36 AM (zH8im)
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My "Adios!" was "I'm going back to sieep", not "I'm through with youse guys".
My "Adios!" was "I'm going back to sieep", not "I'm through with youse guys".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 03:39 AM (Tv15w)
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>>>Trump likes her. Epstein is dead and Maxwell is in prison.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:35 AM (viF8m)
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Did she kill Epstein? Did she put Maxwell in prison?
And please, enumerate all of Bondi's, "winning all these immigration cases"
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:35 AM (viF8m)
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Did she kill Epstein? Did she put Maxwell in prison?
And please, enumerate all of Bondi's, "winning all these immigration cases"
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 03:40 AM (zH8im)
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Has nothing to do with your criticism of Bondi who is doing a great job defending the lawfare by the leftwing establishment. It's facts which you ignore. Look at the court cases.
The best illegal immigration enforcement we've ever had is going on right now. Bondi is the AG. Trump likes her. Epstein is dead and Maxwell is in prison.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:35 AM (viF8m)
I'll take the wins and even enjoy them. I assume you do not remember similarly structured conversations you and I had over Barr. That's okay. I do. Maybe because I care about you more than Trump does; wouldn't that be ironic.
I was vindicated on that one, and time and Bondi will - without a question of a doubt - do the same here.
The best illegal immigration enforcement we've ever had is going on right now. Bondi is the AG. Trump likes her. Epstein is dead and Maxwell is in prison.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:35 AM (viF8m)
I'll take the wins and even enjoy them. I assume you do not remember similarly structured conversations you and I had over Barr. That's okay. I do. Maybe because I care about you more than Trump does; wouldn't that be ironic.
I was vindicated on that one, and time and Bondi will - without a question of a doubt - do the same here.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 03:41 AM (E0p3T)
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My "Adios!" was "I'm going back to sieep", not "I'm through with youse guys".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 03:39 AM (Tv15w)
I realized. After my doubletake...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 13, 2025 03:39 AM (Tv15w)
I realized. After my doubletake...
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 03:42 AM (E0p3T)
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>>I'll take the wins and even enjoy them. I assume you do not remember similarly structured conversations you and I had over Barr. That's okay. I do. Maybe because I care about you more than Trump does; wouldn't that be ironic.
Of course I do.
What structure would you like to discuss.
Of course I do.
What structure would you like to discuss.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:49 AM (viF8m)
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Of course I do.
What structure would you like to discuss.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:49 AM (viF8m)
I think we've beat this horse pretty good. I'm happy letting the course of human events run its race.
As others have pointed out at times, I have the easier side on this one - betting on people to be corrupt or to betray is very often a mortal lock.
The best you can hope for is that Bondi represents the best of what can be done by an earnest man given Congress, etc. I find that difficult to believe but not impossible.
What structure would you like to discuss.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 03:49 AM (viF8m)
I think we've beat this horse pretty good. I'm happy letting the course of human events run its race.
As others have pointed out at times, I have the easier side on this one - betting on people to be corrupt or to betray is very often a mortal lock.
The best you can hope for is that Bondi represents the best of what can be done by an earnest man given Congress, etc. I find that difficult to believe but not impossible.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 04:06 AM (E0p3T)
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I think the DOJ and Bondi are being aggressive in defending the administration's immigration actions and policies.
But the Epstein mess was managed very, very badly, and the appearance of impropriety is awful.
Do I think Trump is implicated? No.
Do I think that he misunderstands why people care about Epstein? Yes.
Regardless of what really went on, Bondi mishandled it.
FYI... I think she sucks when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, so I am predisposed to dislike her.
But the Epstein mess was managed very, very badly, and the appearance of impropriety is awful.
Do I think Trump is implicated? No.
Do I think that he misunderstands why people care about Epstein? Yes.
Regardless of what really went on, Bondi mishandled it.
FYI... I think she sucks when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, so I am predisposed to dislike her.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 04:07 AM (VTAje)
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Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at July 13, 2025 04:30 AM (aURVT)
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FYI... I think she sucks when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, so I am predisposed to dislike her.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 04:07 AM (VTAje)
Absolutely. I mean a total disaster. We have to know deep down that Gaetz was probably not only a better choice but a much better choice. Not just for that but for everything. Ah well. Still beats AG Crockett under Kamala.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2025 04:07 AM (VTAje)
Absolutely. I mean a total disaster. We have to know deep down that Gaetz was probably not only a better choice but a much better choice. Not just for that but for everything. Ah well. Still beats AG Crockett under Kamala.
Posted by: ... at July 13, 2025 04:30 AM (E0p3T)
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The Wobblies as a political force, by and large, are long since spent!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM
I know-nothing.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM
I know-nothing.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 03:22 PM (jc0TO)
Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: The Return of the Living Dead
It was another good fortnight-and-a-half at 'casa 'gique, starting with the indie/arty/actorly Everything's Going To Be Great, where a theater kid born into a theater family struggles with convincing people he's heterosexual and ultimately learns he's not the center of the universe, and ending with the taut Persian thriller Tatami, about a Persian judoku who is doing well in a competition, so the Iranian government calls up and tells her to fake an injury—because she might have to go up against an Israeli and they have to boycott Zionists and since they can't, they have to pretend they're not, and, my God, what a bunch of whiny-ass bitches running that country.
We bookended this with two '90s(ish) movies, Shall we Dance? and In The Mood For Love from Japan and China respectively. And what was between the bookends? The glorious year of 1984(ish). We started with Tsui Hark's Shanghai Blues, went to a double-feature of Return of the Living Dead and Repo Man, then followed up with the 40(ish) anniversary of This Is Spinal Tap. With the exception of Tap, none of these '80s films are (generally) regarded as classics—more cult classics, than anything. Shanghai Blues strikes me as under-rated: It's a romcom, almost a screwball comedy with a kind of kung-fu sensibility to the physical humor (think a less frenetic, less violent Jackie Chan). It, like the other three movies, has a surprisingly light, almost casual regard for things which would be ponderously heavy today. These films touch lightly on promiscuity, homelessness, pedophilia, assault, sexual assault, dismemberment, PTSD, death—in ways you really can't anymore. I gots things to say about all of 'em, but tonight, let's just talk about the movie Simon Pegg called "a piss take" on the zombie genre.
Standard first level opponents of an '80s side-scroller fighting game.
Back From The Dead—And Ready To Party
George Romero and John Russo had different ideas about how to proceed with their unexpectedly successful flick, Night of the Living Dead. They decided to go their separate ways, distinguishing their products with "...of the Dead" (Romero) and "...of the Living Dead" (Russo). Richard P. Rubinstein (Romero's producer on Dawn of the Dead) actually tried to get the "Living Dead" removed anyway but since Russo had co-written NotLD, the WGA sided with him. Russo did the novelization of the '68 movie and wrote a follow-up novel called Return of the Living Dead which served as the basis for the first screenplay. He hired Dan O'Bannon (scriptwriter of Alien, Blue Thunder, Total Recall and many more) to write and direct, and O'Bannon rejected the original script for seeming too much like a continuation of Romero's work (the third installation of which would beat this to theaters by about a month in the summer of '85). So, O'Bannon created a world where Night of the Living Dead had been a documentary—an exposé of an army snafu that had resulted in zombies, and Romero had been forced to make changes to various elements to cover up the truth. This serves as a springboard for a lot of the movie's comedy. And this is a funny movie.
Jewel Shepard (Casey) turned down the role of Trash, alleging she'd had enough of being naked. She also alleges that the movie would've gotten an X if she'd done the movie since Linnea Quigley had "nothing much sexual about her". (Quigley got her start in 1978's softcore "Fairy Tales", so Shepherd's opinion was not widely shared.)
Burt (Clu Gulager), Frank (James Karen), and Freddie (Thom Mathews). Dan O'Bannon wanted Leslie Nielsen for Burt.
Stereotyping
Freddie's friends are hanging out in the cemetery waiting for him (because apparently he always knows where the party is), and they're a melange of '80s stereotypes: Freddie's girlfriend is (inexplicably) a preppy. There's a party girl, a suit guy, a death metal guy, a slutty punk girl, and so on. They're slight exaggerations of the types, perhaps, but in real life, they didn't hang out together, generally. They're fodder, amusingly. The movie is powered by the three old guys. Even as fodder, though, they have a more real feeling than most main characters in modern flicks. None of them like the death metal guy, Suicide, who bitches that they only call him when they need a ride. When Trash (slutty punk girl) is throwing herself at him in the cemetery, he throws her off saying "Have some respect for the dead." This is after expressing her sexual frustration by stripping her clothes off and dancing naked on the tombstone, in an iconic scene for Linnea Quigley. The tone is much like that of Evil Dead 2 in that it's very comical in parts, and very horrifying in others. There are a lot of subtle gags, too, like an eye chart that reads "Burt is a slave driver and a cheap son of a bitch who's going bald", or the pictures of Eva Braun and Hitler up in Ernie's mortuary. (How did Ernie get so good at running a crematorium oven?)
This is where we learn it hurts to be dead, and only the brains of the living helps.
Legacy and Nostalgia
RotLD is a very entertaining movie even today, but it didn't have much of an impact. The sequel, by Ken Wiederhorn (Meatballs Part II, Shock Waves) is an odd remake of the original, with members of the original cast back in new roles. Brian Yuzna (Society, Re-Animator) directed the third installment, and it has a cult following, but it's completely serious. Grim, even. Zombies went back to their slow-moving unintelligent selves. I don't think this movie actually introduced the brain-eating-zombie trope but I can't prove it. (I also don't think "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum" was original to Roddy Piper but I can't prove that.) And, for the record, Messiah of Evil had running (well-dressed) undead years earlier. So it just stands as a good, fun horror comedy. We saw this, as mentioned, as a double-feature with Repo Man at Quentin Tarantino's New Beverly Theater which actually uses a project to project 35mm prints in all their glories (and flaws). Lately, I've been overwhelmed by how much better films look than digital—like, even a trashy older film shot on film creates an effect that is largely absent from digital. But I didn't think showing them from a print on a projector was such a big deal. It struck me as the same pretentiousness seen in people who insist on playing vinyl records. (I'm not one of those "Nobody can hear the difference" because I wouldn't presume. I'm more "The people who are claiming to hear the different largely aren't.") Well, color me pretentious, because I felt the projection on these (low-budget, throwaway!) old movies really added something to the viewing experience—scratches and all, because there are scratches on the RotLD print. The New Beverly also leads with contemporary trailers and ads, which made the whole experience a lot like going to the theater 40 years ago. Down to the guy in front of me in the packed theater being a foot taller and having an enormous head! I've never been a big nostalgia guy but, wow, what a time machine.
Do You Wanna Party?
In sum, old movies are better. Or they may not be better but they are definitely a safer bet, when you realize how cultural filters work. But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.
"Send more paramedics."
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Time machine
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (asXVI)
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Arf!
Posted by: Sandy at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (BK31K)
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Back in a few minutes. I'm watching the RedLetterMedia guys' take on the new Superman movie.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (kpS4V)
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Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:42 PM (VofaG)
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Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)
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RotLD
Seen it in the theater. Never seen it replayed anywhere.
Seen it in the theater. Never seen it replayed anywhere.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (/lPRQ)
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I don't like slow zombies or fast zombies. I like regular speed zombies. But if I had to choose it would be slow zombies, Fast zombies are just another kind monster instead of a come back from the dead Human.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (VofaG)
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Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
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Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)M
Hah who am I thinking of. I have to find the article. I just saw a headline with his photo,
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)M
Hah who am I thinking of. I have to find the article. I just saw a headline with his photo,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (VofaG)
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LOL, I'm watching James Gunn babble on about interconnected comic book arcs, and with his spiky white hair and manic patter, he's like some sort of cocaine imp come to life.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (kpS4V)
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It's either Maltese Falcon or Top Gun at 8pm
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (+qU29)
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Repo Man is a great, great movie. God Bless Harry Dean Stanton!
Posted by: SuperExMayorSuperRonNirenberg-Term Limited, But Still Buff at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (/8/Rh)
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Okay . It was the Naked Gun director. Never just read the headlines.
That said I didn't remember that Nielsen died in 2010.
That said I didn't remember that Nielsen died in 2010.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:51 PM (VofaG)
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80s horror was different. 70s was more dour or downright nihilistic. 80s had a tendency to have some element of humor.
One could argue about the overall tone and feel of the country during those decades as having an influence.
But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.
One could argue about the overall tone and feel of the country during those decades as having an influence.
But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
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Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
Not looking... day or dawn?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
Not looking... day or dawn?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (zZu0s)
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I love Repo Man.
The scene with generic food cracks me up.
I remember stocking shelves in those brown on brown generics.
That job sucked.
The scene with generic food cracks me up.
I remember stocking shelves in those brown on brown generics.
That job sucked.
Posted by: Beaver at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (KVlfh)
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MOAR BRAINS!
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)
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Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd
Dawn of the Dead. One of the Romeros.
Posted by: fd
Dawn of the Dead. One of the Romeros.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 12, 2025 07:54 PM (ftFVW)
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Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (jGGMD)
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MOAR BRAINS!
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)
The great snippet from the Simpsons Halloween special (one of) where a zombie mumbling brains seizes Homer's head, sniffs it, knocks on it, then moves on.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)
The great snippet from the Simpsons Halloween special (one of) where a zombie mumbling brains seizes Homer's head, sniffs it, knocks on it, then moves on.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)
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Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)
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70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)
First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)
First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)
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The 80's were all Stephen King😀
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").
The '80s had swaths of crap movies based on the works of Stephen King, but there were also good movies. The ones NOT based on the works of Stephen King. And "Stand By Me".
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").
The '80s had swaths of crap movies based on the works of Stephen King, but there were also good movies. The ones NOT based on the works of Stephen King. And "Stand By Me".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:57 PM (asXVI)
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70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)
The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive. Pet Sematery is a distant second, and even it's not that good a movie in my opinion.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)
The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive. Pet Sematery is a distant second, and even it's not that good a movie in my opinion.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (jGGMD)
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"That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.
Posted by: Dr. T "
Me too. Saw it at a drive-in.
Posted by: Dr. T "
Me too. Saw it at a drive-in.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (vFG9F)
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Texas Chainsaw massacre. There were also a lot of odd, exploitation/torture porn movies in there I have successfully avoided.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (zZu0s)
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>>>The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").
Oh, you're one of *those* people.
But Carter was still president in 1980, so...close enough.
Oh, you're one of *those* people.
But Carter was still president in 1980, so...close enough.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:00 PM (jGGMD)
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First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)
1980
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)
1980
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:01 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Daddy Warbucks at July 12, 2025 08:01 PM (/HDaX)
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I saw Motel Hell at that same drive-in theater. Along with Kentucky Fried Movie and Groove Tube.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (vFG9F)
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1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)
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Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (ZZv2M)
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Is this the movie were the old guy, I guess it's Frank. crawls into the crematory oven when he knows he's infected?
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:04 PM (ptgc5)
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Standard first level opponents of an '80s side-scroller fighting game.
Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.
Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.
Posted by: Genre-savvy 80's fighting game hero at July 12, 2025 08:05 PM (DgGvY)
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RotLD is funny.
Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)
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Haven't watched either RotLD or Repo Man in eons, but they were both a hell of a lot of fun. The generic food cans bit cracks me up too.
Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.
From high school days in Chicago, I recall hitting the Clark Theater a few times during summer vacations. The Clark ran lots of old movies and changed its lineup every day if memory serves.
Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.
From high school days in Chicago, I recall hitting the Clark Theater a few times during summer vacations. The Clark ran lots of old movies and changed its lineup every day if memory serves.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (q3u5l)
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Now that I no longer have cable and stream everything on the free services I found that a lot of A listers have a lot of crap movies. Lot of movies to choose from but it's like one good movie for every 30 offered.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (IBQGV)
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1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
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The argument goes there was no year zero, so counting decades goes 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40...
You are allowed by most conventions (Geneva, U.N., Comicon) to punch people who make this argument, however.
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Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies
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The big year for "quirky" was 1986. In 1985 there were something like 60-70 movies released. In 1986, there were over 200. (Now it's more like 800.)
The jump from 1985-1986 is the impact of the videocassette (for you nearly 29-year-olds who have heard but never seen such artifacts).
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The argument goes there was no year zero, so counting decades goes 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40...
You are allowed by most conventions (Geneva, U.N., Comicon) to punch people who make this argument, however.
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Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies
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The big year for "quirky" was 1986. In 1985 there were something like 60-70 movies released. In 1986, there were over 200. (Now it's more like 800.)
The jump from 1985-1986 is the impact of the videocassette (for you nearly 29-year-olds who have heard but never seen such artifacts).
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (asXVI)
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I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
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1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
There are many people colored pretentious who start counting at 1, and so decades will include 10. I.e., the Eighties would be 1981 to 1990. Because there is no year zero, which means the first decade is years 1 to 10.
I’m inclined to listen to the pedants when they apply this to centuries, because centuries are counting from the start, but decades are about the actual tenths digit. “Eighties” really should mean “years pronounced beginning with “eighty”, and so on.
There are many people colored pretentious who start counting at 1, and so decades will include 10. I.e., the Eighties would be 1981 to 1990. Because there is no year zero, which means the first decade is years 1 to 10.
I’m inclined to listen to the pedants when they apply this to centuries, because centuries are counting from the start, but decades are about the actual tenths digit. “Eighties” really should mean “years pronounced beginning with “eighty”, and so on.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (EXyHK)
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I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
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The shrooms gave you telekinetic powers? Cool!
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
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The shrooms gave you telekinetic powers? Cool!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (IBQGV)
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My favorite quote segment from Return of the Living Dead? The "discussion" between Frank and Freddie:
Frank: It's the crap from the tanks and the goddamn chemicals, it's all over everything!
Freddy: Stupid asshole!
Frank: Watch your tongue, boy, if you like this job!
Freddy: Like this job!?
Frank: It's the crap from the tanks and the goddamn chemicals, it's all over everything!
Freddy: Stupid asshole!
Frank: Watch your tongue, boy, if you like this job!
Freddy: Like this job!?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (/HDaX)
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Is this the movie were the old guy, I guess it's Frank. crawls into the crematory oven when he knows he's infected?
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Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.
It's horrible, yet also kind of weirdly funny, in that he's been turning into a zombie for hours at this point.
"What's his temperature?"
"Seventy."
"What's that?"
"Room temperature."
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Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.
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Pre-cheat codes and spoilers!
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Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.
It's horrible, yet also kind of weirdly funny, in that he's been turning into a zombie for hours at this point.
"What's his temperature?"
"Seventy."
"What's that?"
"Room temperature."
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Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.
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Pre-cheat codes and spoilers!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (asXVI)
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1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)
I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)
I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 12, 2025 08:11 PM (p16cu)
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saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
The jump scare that got me was in Jaws when the dead guy's head popped out of the sunken boat,
I wish it was popcorn but it was my soda that I spilled.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
The jump scare that got me was in Jaws when the dead guy's head popped out of the sunken boat,
I wish it was popcorn but it was my soda that I spilled.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:11 PM (VofaG)
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Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
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Right? It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding. (Ernie is also "What's in it for me?" when it comes to solving the problem.)
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Right? It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding. (Ernie is also "What's in it for me?" when it comes to solving the problem.)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (asXVI)
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Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.
Okay, that was what I remember most from the movie, and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.
Okay, that was what I remember most from the movie, and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)
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I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.
There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
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9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
Wasn't that a Jonathon Coulton song?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
Wasn't that a Jonathon Coulton song?
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (0aYVJ)
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and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)
Gremlins logic.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)
Gremlins logic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:13 PM (zZu0s)
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Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.
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Yeah, it's...I mean, they're showing a double-feature of "Gaslight" and "Diabolique" in a couple of weeks. And they remind me so much of the old revival houses, which I lived in, basically.
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Yeah, it's...I mean, they're showing a double-feature of "Gaslight" and "Diabolique" in a couple of weeks. And they remind me so much of the old revival houses, which I lived in, basically.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:13 PM (asXVI)
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I was late to the party last week and the room was pretty much empty, so I'm just going to mention again that last week's trivia question (what two films released in the '60s didn't get a sequel until the '80s) had a third answer - "2001" and "2010".
There. My work here is done.
There. My work here is done.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (5YmYl)
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Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)
Frank: What are we gonna do, Burt?
Burt Wilson: I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm going to be sued by the Darrow Chemical Company. I might even be investigated by the government. I might become very famous, Frank. I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)
Frank: What are we gonna do, Burt?
Burt Wilson: I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm going to be sued by the Darrow Chemical Company. I might even be investigated by the government. I might become very famous, Frank. I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (/HDaX)
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Do not take Zombie Juice if you are allergic to Zombie Juice.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (ptgc5)
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'I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.'
That's hilarious.
'I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.'
That's hilarious.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (3wi/L)
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I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over.
The first time I watched Carrie it was on a 9-inch or 10-inch black and white television that I’d repaired myself. I was watching it in my bedroom, in bed, because that’s when it was broadcast. I was learning over to turn off the television when that dream turned into a nightmare.
I did not sleep well that night.
The first time I watched Carrie it was on a 9-inch or 10-inch black and white television that I’d repaired myself. I was watching it in my bedroom, in bed, because that’s when it was broadcast. I was learning over to turn off the television when that dream turned into a nightmare.
I did not sleep well that night.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (EXyHK)
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I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.
There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
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That's a fair point. I have seen several commentators proclaim that Ironheart is already a dated television series in 2025 because it reflects the times from a few years ago.
There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
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That's a fair point. I have seen several commentators proclaim that Ironheart is already a dated television series in 2025 because it reflects the times from a few years ago.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)
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Never watched Carrie. Never appealed to me when it was described.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (zZu0s)
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Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
Yes that makes sense .
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
Yes that makes sense .
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (VofaG)
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But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.
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The Future in NOW!! 😜
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The Future in NOW!! 😜
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (uGaBv)
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Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)
Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.
Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)
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Never watched Carrie. Never appealed to me when it was described.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM
and now we've spoiled the ending.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM
and now we've spoiled the ending.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)
Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 08:17 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:17 PM (ptgc5)
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51 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.
There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
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Well, my argument for some time is that while it's convenient to talk about "the '50s" and "the '60s", culturally, the decades ended on the half after WWII.
I mean, 1945-1955 had the Greatest Generation ethos, and 1955-1965 is rock 'n' roll boomers, and 1965-1975 is dominated by the counter culture, Disco may have died in 1979, but Studio 54 was open until the mid-'80s, and the sound and fashion was very congruous until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.
There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
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Well, my argument for some time is that while it's convenient to talk about "the '50s" and "the '60s", culturally, the decades ended on the half after WWII.
I mean, 1945-1955 had the Greatest Generation ethos, and 1955-1965 is rock 'n' roll boomers, and 1965-1975 is dominated by the counter culture, Disco may have died in 1979, but Studio 54 was open until the mid-'80s, and the sound and fashion was very congruous until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (asXVI)
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and now we've spoiled the ending.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)
Hah!
Usually for movies that i figure i am going to hate, I just look up the synopsis online somewhere.
The only movie I regret even reading the synopsis for was The Serbian Film.
Really guys, just don't.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)
Hah!
Usually for movies that i figure i am going to hate, I just look up the synopsis online somewhere.
The only movie I regret even reading the synopsis for was The Serbian Film.
Really guys, just don't.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: toby928 oh what the hell at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (ptgc5)
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New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)
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Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)
Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)
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No argument from me on that score.
Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)
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No argument from me on that score.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:20 PM (IBQGV)
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55 I was late to the party last week and the room was pretty much empty, so I'm just going to mention again that last week's trivia question (what two films released in the '60s didn't get a sequel until the '80s) had a third answer - "2001" and "2010".
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What were the other two?
Hmmm.
The Detective->Die Hard
The Hustler->The Color Of Money
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What were the other two?
Hmmm.
The Detective->Die Hard
The Hustler->The Color Of Money
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (asXVI)
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9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
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Dawn of the Dead
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
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Dawn of the Dead
Posted by: EFG at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (Ai4Tb)
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (VofaG)
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I would love to make a life-size Maltese Falcon
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (+qU29)
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25: The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive
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Heh! I liked Maximum Overdrive too. Kickass soundtrack! The short story it's based on had a MUCH different ending.
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Heh! I liked Maximum Overdrive too. Kickass soundtrack! The short story it's based on had a MUCH different ending.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (uGaBv)
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'I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'
Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
'I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'
Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (asXVI)
Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.
Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (EXyHK)
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And think original Halloween is still a great horror movie
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (+qU29)
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New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)
Meanwhile, Metal waits in the shadows, tenting it fingers...
soon... soon
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)
Meanwhile, Metal waits in the shadows, tenting it fingers...
soon... soon
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (vFG9F)
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Saw Carrie in the theater when it first came out -- waiting in the lobby for the first showing to finish, and heard the audience jump and shriek, so we knew there was going to be a kicker at the finish. We still jumped.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (q3u5l)
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I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'
Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.
Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Class of 1984, an unappreciated movie with Michael J. Fox at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (Ai4Tb)
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New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928"
Disco killed disco. Disco merely made new wave inevitable.
Posted by: toby928"
Disco killed disco. Disco merely made new wave inevitable.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:24 PM (ptgc5)
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (ptgc5)
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Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.
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Which was ALSO playing at the New Beverly. I haven't seen it, though.
Hey, Just Some Guy, if you want to talk bankrupting yourself watching classic and weird movies?
https://revivalhub.com/
Every week, there are, IDK, maybe a hundred or two showings.
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Which was ALSO playing at the New Beverly. I haven't seen it, though.
Hey, Just Some Guy, if you want to talk bankrupting yourself watching classic and weird movies?
https://revivalhub.com/
Every week, there are, IDK, maybe a hundred or two showings.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (asXVI)
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Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Ironically enough, he was the only guy with his head on straight while everyone else was panicking.
Ironically enough, he was the only guy with his head on straight while everyone else was panicking.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (/HDaX)
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The timeline of Dazed and Confused was me at 10 years old. Grew up in a small town in Wyoming. I knew guys like Wooderson; my best friend's uncle had a Trans Am that was fucking awesome. The girls were so pretty. The smell of leaded gas permeated the air.
Good times.
Good times.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:27 PM (0aYVJ)
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The 10 weight, cast in sand then filled in with lead
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:28 PM (+qU29)
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Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)
Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:28 PM (/HDaX)
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The original Halloween is still a favorite; none of the sequels and none of the reboots come close.
Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra. But it's a nice trivia question. Another good trivia question is to name, without looking them up, all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.
Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra. But it's a nice trivia question. Another good trivia question is to name, without looking them up, all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (q3u5l)
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Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.
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The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.
Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
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The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.
Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)
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For anyone interested, the new Superman movie is not woke in the least. The movie is, unintentionally I think, actually very conservative. The idea of Superman as an immigrant is present as it has been from the beginning—“strange visitor from another planet” and all—but the movie is much more interested in showing that Superman is a good man because of his upbringing by the Kents. No cheap shots at conservatives here either. If you like the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM (tgTrV)
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The timeline of Dazed and Confused was me at 10 years old.
I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).
I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM (EXyHK)
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Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra
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It wasn't my trivia question so that may not be the answer. But those were the only other two movies I could think of that were made in the '60s but got sequels in the '80s.
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It wasn't my trivia question so that may not be the answer. But those were the only other two movies I could think of that were made in the '60s but got sequels in the '80s.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:31 PM (asXVI)
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Brightburn, which I liked, is Superman, if baby Zod was the one who landed in Kansas.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:32 PM (ptgc5)
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Oh, I have an original, sure-fire idea, let's do another ORIGIN STORY! Everyone loves an origin story, and we can re-introduce the world to this character that everyone knows! Maybe we can, I dunno, make it into a series or something.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:32 PM (D7oie)
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I kind of love the idea of Frank Sinatra in a 60s era Die Hard.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:33 PM (tgTrV)
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The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.
Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Hey, I liked that one too.
Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Hey, I liked that one too.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (/HDaX)
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I saw that movie! One time, in the theater, when I was a kid. Linnea Quigley's dance and "the pain of being dead".
I was naive to horror movies at the time, and I didn't get the comedy. Might have to go for a re-watch.
I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.
I was naive to horror movies at the time, and I didn't get the comedy. Might have to go for a re-watch.
I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)
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One of the things I liked about the new Superman is that it is not an origin story but jumps right into the story after Superman is already established in Metropolis.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:35 PM (tgTrV)
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They're not fast zombies, or slow zombies. They're half-fast zombies.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:35 PM (i0F8b)
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Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
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The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.
Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)
300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.
And the weird Persian shit.
Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)
300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.
And the weird Persian shit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (Yamow)
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I kind of love the idea of Frank Sinatra in a 60s era Die Hard.
Posted by: Open Channel
You must have missed "Von Ryan's Express".
Posted by: Open Channel
You must have missed "Von Ryan's Express".
Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (cYBz/)
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Momma don't 'llow no halfas zombies 'round hea.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (vFG9F)
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... until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
Looking at mid-80's yearbooks. Woof.
No likey big hair and the girls went all out.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
Looking at mid-80's yearbooks. Woof.
No likey big hair and the girls went all out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (/lPRQ)
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'It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding.'
Ha! I just checked that character's name in the cast. He's named Ernie Kaltenbrunner. Those of you who are WWII buffs might recognize that as the name of an SS Nazi war criminal.
'It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding.'
Ha! I just checked that character's name in the cast. He's named Ernie Kaltenbrunner. Those of you who are WWII buffs might recognize that as the name of an SS Nazi war criminal.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (3wi/L)
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Revival Hub looks like something else that would bankrupt me if I were unlucky enough to live in the same city. Fortunately, I make do with the streaming services. And that Revival Hub schedule -- Good God, a theater showing The Tall Target? How did they pick up on that one? And I'd be one of the first in line -- haven't seen that flick in I don't know when.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (q3u5l)
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Red Son
[A] decade later, in 1955, the Soviet government releases a propaganda film of an alien superhuman under the command of Joseph Stalin, dubbed the "Soviet Superman". U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower tasks Lex Luthor to develop a countermeasure against him. Meanwhile, in an action planned by Luthor, Superman prevents a satellite from crashing into Metropolis, leading to Luthor's wife, Lois Lane, securing an interview with him. She shows him a top-secret document that leads Superman to a secret gulag shielded by lead. There he meets a young boy surrounded by bats, and a dying Svetlana, who was imprisoned there by Stalin because she knew his real identity. Enraged, Superman confronts and kills Stalin. As a result, he becomes the new leader of the Soviet Union, pledging to use his powers for good and to spread the influence of the Soviet state.
[A] decade later, in 1955, the Soviet government releases a propaganda film of an alien superhuman under the command of Joseph Stalin, dubbed the "Soviet Superman". U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower tasks Lex Luthor to develop a countermeasure against him. Meanwhile, in an action planned by Luthor, Superman prevents a satellite from crashing into Metropolis, leading to Luthor's wife, Lois Lane, securing an interview with him. She shows him a top-secret document that leads Superman to a secret gulag shielded by lead. There he meets a young boy surrounded by bats, and a dying Svetlana, who was imprisoned there by Stalin because she knew his real identity. Enraged, Superman confronts and kills Stalin. As a result, he becomes the new leader of the Soviet Union, pledging to use his powers for good and to spread the influence of the Soviet state.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (D7oie)
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Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
Saw about half of it. Caught it on prime but have not gone back to it. Reminded me of a 90s movie where the kid catches a bullet for a girl and comes back as a zombie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
Saw about half of it. Caught it on prime but have not gone back to it. Reminded me of a 90s movie where the kid catches a bullet for a girl and comes back as a zombie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (Yamow)
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But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
Out of all the things I couldn’t have imagined, I never could have dreamed of a world where teenagers were scared of sex.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
Out of all the things I couldn’t have imagined, I never could have dreamed of a world where teenagers were scared of sex.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:39 PM (Hlfhp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:41 PM (Yamow)
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Hey, I liked that one too.
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I actually thought Snyder did a good job on the "Dawn" remake. It's nowhere near the '70s movie, but under the circumstances probably the best we could do.
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300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.
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Yeah.
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Warm Bodies
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Cute flick. I want to say it was Nicholas Hoult's "transition" movie from child to adult actor.
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I actually thought Snyder did a good job on the "Dawn" remake. It's nowhere near the '70s movie, but under the circumstances probably the best we could do.
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300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.
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Yeah.
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Warm Bodies
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Cute flick. I want to say it was Nicholas Hoult's "transition" movie from child to adult actor.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:41 PM (asXVI)
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I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)
"Look at those assholes, ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em."
Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)
"Look at those assholes, ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em."
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:42 PM (/HDaX)
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Oh, I have an original, sure-fire idea, let's do another ORIGIN STORY! Everyone loves an origin story, and we can re-introduce the world to this character that everyone knows! Maybe we can, I dunno, make it into a series or something.
Posted by: Kindltot
But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.
Posted by: Kindltot
But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM (DgGvY)
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'all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.'
Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...
That's as close as I can get.
'all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.'
Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...
That's as close as I can get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)
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Emerald Twilight WOULD be a great comic story to turn into a movie. BUT. Nope.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (Yamow)
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But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM
How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM
How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)
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Oh, the 10th episode of Murderbot is available. BBL. And that damn quick as each episode is only about 20 minutes long.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (ptgc5)
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Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (/HDaX)
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There was a movie (speaking of random, low budget trash) that had vampires shooting wooden bullets at each other. David Carradine. I only saw it once when I was maybe 16. I remember boobs. And Ash from evil dead as a descendant of van helsing?
Sunset something.
Sunset something.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)
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I graduated high school in ‘77, my graduation was dazed and confused all the way. Geeks and Freaks was always very familiar terrritory for me.
I remember i kind of wanted to be with the freaks, but since I was good at chemistry and all the teachers liked me i always fell on the geek side of the line.
I remember i kind of wanted to be with the freaks, but since I was good at chemistry and all the teachers liked me i always fell on the geek side of the line.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (Hlfhp)
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How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)
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127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)
But save it for a twist at the end.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)
But save it for a twist at the end.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)
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Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake wasn't too shabby. I could have done without zombie newborn, which looked too fake to put up with, but on the whole the flick wasn't a bad zombie flick at all.
The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)
The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (q3u5l)
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Robin was circus folk, IIRC.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (ptgc5)
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'Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.'
I wouldn't have thought of those if given a hundred years.
'Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.'
I wouldn't have thought of those if given a hundred years.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:49 PM (3wi/L)
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Sunset something.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)
Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)
Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)
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a theater showing The Tall Target? How did they pick up on that one? And I'd be one of the first in line -- haven't seen that flick in I don't know when.
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Their whole schedule is bonkers. All over the map. Moviegoing delirium.
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Their whole schedule is bonkers. All over the map. Moviegoing delirium.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (asXVI)
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Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...
That's as close as I can get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)
The Kid and the Other Guy are kind of forgettable.
But perhaps the best actor of all is Eli Wallach! I go back and forth on which is better, the American one or Kurosawa’s 7 Samurai. I mostly like the original better, but Wallach’s gang leader is a brilliant addition to the story. (The gang leader is never given much personality in the original)
That's as close as I can get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)
The Kid and the Other Guy are kind of forgettable.
But perhaps the best actor of all is Eli Wallach! I go back and forth on which is better, the American one or Kurosawa’s 7 Samurai. I mostly like the original better, but Wallach’s gang leader is a brilliant addition to the story. (The gang leader is never given much personality in the original)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (Hlfhp)
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The 80s had that John-Boy Walton Magnificent Seven in space movie.
With Robert Vaughn reprising his role.
With Robert Vaughn reprising his role.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (vFG9F)
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Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (+qU29)
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"Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip"
I think all you have to do is pass thru the tail of a comet.
Posted by: Skip"
I think all you have to do is pass thru the tail of a comet.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:53 PM (vFG9F)
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Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)
That's it.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)
That's it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (Yamow)
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127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)
Robin is the villain and then Batman backhands him a couple of times and that’s the end of that.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)
Robin is the villain and then Batman backhands him a couple of times and that’s the end of that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (Hlfhp)
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Buchholz & Dexter --
Very few people think of those two, and a lot of the time somebody will name Eli Wallach, forgetting that he was the bad guy.
Very few people think of those two, and a lot of the time somebody will name Eli Wallach, forgetting that he was the bad guy.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (q3u5l)
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Sundown, you better be ware
If I find you’ve been vampirin’ round my back stair
If I find you’ve been vampirin’ round my back stair
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:55 PM (Hlfhp)
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The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)
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It's astonishingly good. Different enough from the original to be interesting, not compulsively modern (for 1990).
I always liked Tallman, too, but maybe she preferred being a stuntwoman.
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It's astonishingly good. Different enough from the original to be interesting, not compulsively modern (for 1990).
I always liked Tallman, too, but maybe she preferred being a stuntwoman.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (Hlfhp)
The main kid, Sam, in Freaks and Geeks, was literally the same age as me in 1981. But Sam was way more cool than I ever was. The show, though, was pretty much a documentary of my life as a teenager. Sam's parents were my parents.
The main kid, Sam, in Freaks and Geeks, was literally the same age as me in 1981. But Sam was way more cool than I ever was. The show, though, was pretty much a documentary of my life as a teenager. Sam's parents were my parents.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (0aYVJ)
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"Invaders From Mars" is on Svengoolie. The perspective is weird for this entire movie.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F)
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I'm back and forth on Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven too. The first one I saw was Magnificent Seven, in the theater when I was 11. Don't know how many times I've seen it since, and enjoyed it every time. The remake -- feh.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (q3u5l)
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Looks like Superman will do pretty good bidness this weekend. They’re learning to sidestep get woke go broke. Anti-American movies can still make money if marketed right.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 08:58 PM (ImXfC)
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139 Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)
That's it.
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IMDB says no boobs, though.
Scanning for them now...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)
That's it.
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IMDB says no boobs, though.
Scanning for them now...
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:58 PM (asXVI)
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How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)
There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)
There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)
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IMDB says no boobs, though.
Scanning for them now...
The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.
Scanning for them now...
The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (/HDaX)
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Patricia Tallman was on Babylon 5. Played Lyta Alexander.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (uGaBv)
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There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)
In Red Son, Batman is a terrorist.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)
In Red Son, Batman is a terrorist.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:00 PM (D7oie)
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I think Tallman got a lot of television work as well, so there's that. But she was terrific in the NotLD remake, as good (IMHO) as Sigourney Weaver in Alien.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:00 PM (q3u5l)
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Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)
Those beaches will be open! And it's gonna be one of the best summers we've ever had!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)
Those beaches will be open! And it's gonna be one of the best summers we've ever had!
Posted by: Mayor Vaughn at July 12, 2025 09:01 PM (jGGMD)
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106 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
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A zom rom com. Cute flick.
106 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
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A zom rom com. Cute flick.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (kpS4V)
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One good reason to see Return of the Living dead in 35mm is that they can't change the music. "Dead Beat Dance" from The Damned has been missing from every home video release since the 90's.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (TdCYS)
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In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.
I think i remember the garabaldi actor saying in a commentary 'what's with this dialogue?! It's fricking ponderous, man!'
I liked that guy.
I think i remember the garabaldi actor saying in a commentary 'what's with this dialogue?! It's fricking ponderous, man!'
I liked that guy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 09:03 PM (Yamow)
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The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.
Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!
Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)
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Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip
We Are All Dead (korean, netflix)
How it started is pretty much half the series.
Supposed to have a second season... One of these years.
Posted by: Skip
We Are All Dead (korean, netflix)
How it started is pretty much half the series.
Supposed to have a second season... One of these years.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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The oddest Zombie movie I have seen was Valley of the Dead (Spanish MalNazidos), where remnants of Republican irregulars and Nationalist regular units have to combine to survive a German experiment to create a zombie fighting force.
About as well written as any Spanish film, but my goodness, the uniforms, weapons, and period equipment are top notch. Spanish film really cares about Civil War kit.
About as well written as any Spanish film, but my goodness, the uniforms, weapons, and period equipment are top notch. Spanish film really cares about Civil War kit.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:05 PM (D7oie)
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A zom rom com. Cute flick.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
There's also a zombie romance anime (because of course there is) called Sankarea: Undying Love.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
There's also a zombie romance anime (because of course there is) called Sankarea: Undying Love.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 09:05 PM (DgGvY)
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Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)
It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)
It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 09:06 PM (Yamow)
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Finally, some movies in my wheelhouse. "You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."
And Repo Man is one of the greatest movies of all time.
And Repo Man is one of the greatest movies of all time.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 12, 2025 09:07 PM (MZ+PY)
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Bitchin'. Sundown's free on Prime right now.
It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.
I appreciate that.
It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.
I appreciate that.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:11 PM (/HDaX)
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I liked Night of the Living Dead and then the much cheesier Dawn of the Dead. The one in the mall.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:11 PM (rJ7Hd)
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The first part sounds like the life of the renowned musical composer, playwright, actor, dancer, and singer George M. Cohan, enshrined in “Yankee Doodle Dandy” with James Cagney.
Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:12 PM (GITLP)
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ZOM 100
Good Japanese zombie flic and the original animated series are good.
Overworked young business guy is thrilled with the zombie apocalypse because he doesn't have to go to his hellish job anymore.
Good Japanese zombie flic and the original animated series are good.
Overworked young business guy is thrilled with the zombie apocalypse because he doesn't have to go to his hellish job anymore.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:13 PM (/lPRQ)
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"Dead Beat Dance" from The Damned has been missing from every home video release since the 90's.
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Really?! Dang, the music is so integral to both Repo and RotLD.
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"You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."
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As Linnea wiggles all over him.
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157 In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.
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I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.
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Really?! Dang, the music is so integral to both Repo and RotLD.
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"You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."
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As Linnea wiggles all over him.
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157 In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.
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I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)
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My favorite zombie movie is 28 days later. That really flipped the script on the genre.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)
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The Nicholas Brothers featured in the 1943 movie ‘Stormy Weather‘
Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:16 PM (GITLP)
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169 My favorite zombie movie is 28 days later. That really flipped the script on the genre.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)
I agree! I’m not a big fan of Zombie movies, but that one was really great .
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)
I agree! I’m not a big fan of Zombie movies, but that one was really great .
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:16 PM (Hlfhp)
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Princess Resurrection might count as a zom-rom-com, too. Though the "zombie" boy gets referred to as "half-immortal," not as a zombie. But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse. The titular princess's magic keeps him animated after he gets himself killed trying to protect her.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (DgGvY)
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Movie idea. Teenage boy is killed defending his girl from a motorcycle gang. Then he returns as a zombie to seek revenge on the gang. Call it My Boyfriend's Back And You're Gonna Be Sorry.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)
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I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)
Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal! Of course I thing the end of Season 4 is the emotional end of the show, and everything after that is anticlimactic.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)
Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal! Of course I thing the end of Season 4 is the emotional end of the show, and everything after that is anticlimactic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:21 PM (Hlfhp)
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But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse.
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Frankenhooker.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)
Dead Heat.
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Frankenhooker.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)
Dead Heat.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:21 PM (D7oie)
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The show was much better when boxleitner replaced o hare
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (bXbFr)
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97 I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM
I believe the setting in the movie was 1976, which was the summer before my senior year in high school. I was dazzled by how perfectly the movie captured that year, right down to the Adidas t-shirts that everyone I knew was wearing. Mine was red and I loved it!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM
I believe the setting in the movie was 1976, which was the summer before my senior year in high school. I was dazzled by how perfectly the movie captured that year, right down to the Adidas t-shirts that everyone I knew was wearing. Mine was red and I loved it!
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (rbKZ6)
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Zombieland was fun. The whole rules thing. Double tap! Don't be stingy with the ammo!
I think Woody Harrelson had a lot of fun in that movie.
I think Woody Harrelson had a lot of fun in that movie.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (nyTxL)
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Joe piscopo horror intro with a weird twist
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (bXbFr)
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As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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173 Movie idea. Teenage boy is killed defending his girl from a motorcycle gang. Then he returns as a zombie to seek revenge on the gang. Call it My Boyfriend's Back And You're Gonna Be Sorry.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl
Gonna need a good theme song though. Have to think about that one.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl
Gonna need a good theme song though. Have to think about that one.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (nyTxL)
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Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip
Two words: Dr. Fauci.
Posted by: Skip
Two words: Dr. Fauci.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:24 PM (L/fGl)
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Never caught Babylon 5, really. Saw a few first season episodes and fell off; have thought about giving it another try but haven't gotten around to it. One of these years...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:25 PM (q3u5l)
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Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal!
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From what I saw later, I agreed. And...
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As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
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I think the actors playing the aliens were great. Katsulos and the late Stephen Furst as the Minbari toady. And the Minbari ambassador, too.
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From what I saw later, I agreed. And...
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As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
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I think the actors playing the aliens were great. Katsulos and the late Stephen Furst as the Minbari toady. And the Minbari ambassador, too.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:26 PM (asXVI)
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Sounds like a different version of The Crow
Posted by: jsg at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (KJoyi)
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Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)
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You guys are joking about "My Boyrfiend's Back", right? We all know it's a (not very good) '90s comedy horror, right?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (asXVI)
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As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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The same could be said of his foil, Peter Jurasik as Londo Mollari.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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The same could be said of his foil, Peter Jurasik as Londo Mollari.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (IBQGV)
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Watched F1 Tuesday. I was entertained. It was worth watching and Brad Pitt did a good job. Like the mom said, "he ain't that old!"
Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (5MZNC)
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187 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)
Uncle Zom's Cabin
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)
Uncle Zom's Cabin
Posted by: jsg at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (KJoyi)
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Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip
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World War Z
Posted by: Skip
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World War Z
Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:29 PM (5MZNC)
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Back from episode 10 of Murderbot. I don't know. This might be the last episode and no season 2. It's not very good and the plot could end right here without any rancor about missed opportunity.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (ptgc5)
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You guys are joking about "My Boyrfiend's Back", right? We all know it's a (not very good) '90s comedy horror, right?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
I thought I was being original.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
I thought I was being original.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (L/fGl)
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Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt
They Cloned Tyrone
Not zombies, but clones, and hilarious.
Posted by: davidt
They Cloned Tyrone
Not zombies, but clones, and hilarious.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:32 PM (63Dwl)
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Babylon 5 was a metaphor of the Cold War. Discuss.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:33 PM (ptgc5)
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Okay, so we've been talking horror comedy here, and there's no love at all for National Lampoon's Class Reunion? Really?
It's like I don't even know you people any more.
It's like I don't even know you people any more.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:33 PM (q3u5l)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:36 PM (asXVI)
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I'm watching Little Big Man. I think they borroed from that to write Forrest Gump.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 09:36 PM (VofaG)
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Funny thing about Stephen Furst: there’s a Rabbi in Tyler, who I know, who is Stephen Furst’s first cousin and who looked exactly like him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (Hlfhp)
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Late to the party, but I have a copy of John Russo's "Return of the Living Dead" novel. It was written before the movie, and the movie is nothing like it. Russo's book is basically "Night of the Living Dead Part 2: More of the same."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (CHHv1)
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Saw Superman - as mentioned this morning, best Superman movie ever done. Best Lex Luthor ever done. The most Kansas-values superhero who literally rejects his homeworld Superman. It's my 1st A grade movie since Top Gun Maverick. It only needed a little better intro and a better Hawkgirl.
Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)
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Stephen Furst had a brilliant sense of timing. He seemed to know exactly when to say his line and how to do so, so that it was perfect.
Babylon 5 fans know his "I would like for your associates, Mr. Morden--" speech, which is brilliant and perfectly delivered.
I offer you another, more compact and again perfectly delivered: "Cats."
Babylon 5 fans know his "I would like for your associates, Mr. Morden--" speech, which is brilliant and perfectly delivered.
I offer you another, more compact and again perfectly delivered: "Cats."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 09:39 PM (CHHv1)
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There's a funny story on YouTubes - complete with funny animation - of the members of Parliament/Funkadelic tripping on LSD late at night after a show in Pittsburgh, one member of the band said he knew a shortcut and they had to get out and move road blocks. They proceeded to drive onto the set of the filming of Night of the Living Dead
Posted by: Otto Pen at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (sJHOI)
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I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the best Superman movie ever, but it is certainly the best one since Superman II. It’s in the conversation though.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)
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Night of the Creeps was a fun zombie by alien parasite movie. Plus Jill Whitlow was hot
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (ZZv2M)
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The Gunns can kiss my ass. I don't support asshole liberals.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)
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And 28 Years Later is terrible! Do not recommend!
Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (VCgbV)
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206 I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the best Superman movie ever, but it is certainly the best one since Superman II. It’s in the conversation though.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)
Nope, best ever. Clark, Lois, and Lex were all better than any ever done. So were the Kents. Superman is not overpowered and thus, they don't have to rely on ridiculous solutions. Instead, he's powered to work in a movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)
Nope, best ever. Clark, Lois, and Lex were all better than any ever done. So were the Kents. Superman is not overpowered and thus, they don't have to rely on ridiculous solutions. Instead, he's powered to work in a movie.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:42 PM (tOcjL)
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Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)
So the only way you would know that it's supposed to be a lefty political statement is if they told you it was. James Gunn is trolling us.
So the only way you would know that it's supposed to be a lefty political statement is if they told you it was. James Gunn is trolling us.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 09:43 PM (VofaG)
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202 Late to the party, but I have a copy of John Russo's "Return of the Living Dead" novel. It was written before the movie, and the movie is nothing like it. Russo's book is basically "Night of the Living Dead Part 2: More of the same."
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Right. That's why O'Bannon didn't want to do it. He felt it was too close and too infringing on Romero's domain. (And isn't that a refreshing thought: Wanting to do something different from the popular guy?)
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Right. That's why O'Bannon didn't want to do it. He felt it was too close and too infringing on Romero's domain. (And isn't that a refreshing thought: Wanting to do something different from the popular guy?)
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:43 PM (asXVI)
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208 The Gunns can kiss my ass. I don't support asshole liberals.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)
Anytime you watch any movie not done by Angel Studios. you are supporting asshole liberals. If they make great conservative material, and this movie is - this is the Superman that's finally all hero - why not watch it vs some other liberal's subpar movie...just b/c the liberal opened his mouth b/c he realized his movie would drive his fellow liberals away (so he tried to cut that off)?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)
Anytime you watch any movie not done by Angel Studios. you are supporting asshole liberals. If they make great conservative material, and this movie is - this is the Superman that's finally all hero - why not watch it vs some other liberal's subpar movie...just b/c the liberal opened his mouth b/c he realized his movie would drive his fellow liberals away (so he tried to cut that off)?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:44 PM (tOcjL)
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Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)
0-10 woke scale?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)
0-10 woke scale?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)
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Yes thats a fair reading we pretend #3 and 4 didnt happen
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (bXbFr)
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214 Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)
0-10 woke scale?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)
.5 max - it's REALLY not woke. I mean, Cat Grant is Cat Grant, if you catch my drift...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)
0-10 woke scale?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)
.5 max - it's REALLY not woke. I mean, Cat Grant is Cat Grant, if you catch my drift...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (tOcjL)
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71 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM
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Wait, I just talked to Doof this morning.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM
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Wait, I just talked to Doof this morning.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (LVaYG)
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I didn’t see anything woke in the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (tgTrV)
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Many are saying Superman is not only pro illegals but also anti-Israel.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)
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Nicholas hoult could have dialed the jackass down a little
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (bXbFr)
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209 And 28 Years Later is terrible! Do not recommend!
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I enjoyed it, but I would hesitate to recommend it to anyone else. Maybe Eris.
It's very odd. It's a picaresque dressed up as a post-apocalyptic survival-horror. And the sequel looks like it might be ... well, the movie ends with the protagonist encountering a zombie-fighting tribe led by someone who is clergy but clearly evokes Jimmy Saville.
But we liked it. It "subverted expectations" in a lot of ways.
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I enjoyed it, but I would hesitate to recommend it to anyone else. Maybe Eris.
It's very odd. It's a picaresque dressed up as a post-apocalyptic survival-horror. And the sequel looks like it might be ... well, the movie ends with the protagonist encountering a zombie-fighting tribe led by someone who is clergy but clearly evokes Jimmy Saville.
But we liked it. It "subverted expectations" in a lot of ways.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (asXVI)
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I think Gunn made a very conservative movie—the values put forth in the movie are *very* conservative—despite himself.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (tgTrV)
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219 Many are saying Superman is not only pro illegals but also anti-Israel.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)
No, for the "immigrant story", it's a refugee story of absolute assimilation and rejecting your previous evil land...and becoming proud of who you are now and embracing that whole identity of your new land.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)
No, for the "immigrant story", it's a refugee story of absolute assimilation and rejecting your previous evil land...and becoming proud of who you are now and embracing that whole identity of your new land.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:48 PM (tOcjL)
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OMG, the Air India voice recorder shows, shortly after takeoff on June 12, one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.
The other answered, I didn’t cut it off.
Uh oh.
The other answered, I didn’t cut it off.
Uh oh.
Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:48 PM (GITLP)
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Well you might think boravia is more like pakistan invading india
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:49 PM (bXbFr)
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James Gunn is a liberal and a pedo. I won't be supporting anything he does.
'Hollywood director James Gunn’s relationship is over with Disney after a sordid history of pedophilia and rape comments were spotlighted on social media.'
Asshole was joking about this on Social media.
'Hollywood director James Gunn’s relationship is over with Disney after a sordid history of pedophilia and rape comments were spotlighted on social media.'
Asshole was joking about this on Social media.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:50 PM (nyTxL)
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Yes he is very much pro american but anti deeo state
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:50 PM (bXbFr)
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The politics of the movie are such that you can read whatever you want into them, but the movie is neither pro-illegal alien or anti-Israel on its face. I am sure that the lunatics of the left will interpret it that way but it is not in the text of the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (tgTrV)
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If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)
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MSDNC: Trump backs renewed push to rig the U.S. census by only counting citizens
Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:52 PM (GITLP)
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one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.
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What part of 72 virgins don't you understand?
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What part of 72 virgins don't you understand?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:53 PM (L/fGl)
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229 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)
Personally, it's this attitude that I believe got us in the mess we've been in for decades. Slippery slope mentality to me.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)
Personally, it's this attitude that I believe got us in the mess we've been in for decades. Slippery slope mentality to me.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:53 PM (nyTxL)
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one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.
Reading the report, the #1 engine was spooling back up but they just ran out of time. Tragic.
Reading the report, the #1 engine was spooling back up but they just ran out of time. Tragic.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:54 PM (ptgc5)
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Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)
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My Deer Friend Nokatan is on tubi.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (lhenN)
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Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)
Which is why he and Lois hook up...repeatedly...
Out just wanted to get in on the press...
Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)
Which is why he and Lois hook up...repeatedly...
Out just wanted to get in on the press...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (tOcjL)
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Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM
No wonder he kept Olsen around.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM
No wonder he kept Olsen around.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (ptgc5)
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Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)
It's the underwear, isn't it? Red underwear is a gay thing.
Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)
It's the underwear, isn't it? Red underwear is a gay thing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (nyTxL)
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AlaBAMA at 232,
Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.
Do I contradict myself? You betcha.
Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.
Do I contradict myself? You betcha.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l)
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If the movie reflected Gunn’s politics or him as a person, I would have passed. The movie itself has a pretty conservative message and I support that. I do get where some of you are coming from though: I won’t see Fantastic Four no matter how good it is because I refuse to support anything with Pedro Pascal in it. Everyone has to make their own choices as to where their redlines are.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:58 PM (tgTrV)
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Ok they just are peak stupid
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:59 PM (bXbFr)
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I am amazed at the variety of opinions on Superman.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)
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Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.
Do I contradict myself? You betcha.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l
Fair enough. I agree it's hard to police this but we're hurting them now. Costing them money. Taking their power. The more we fight, the more ground we win in the culture war. I'm with Patton. We need to attack Russia now, while we can, so to speak.
Do I contradict myself? You betcha.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l
Fair enough. I agree it's hard to police this but we're hurting them now. Costing them money. Taking their power. The more we fight, the more ground we win in the culture war. I'm with Patton. We need to attack Russia now, while we can, so to speak.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (nyTxL)
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The whole jor el storyline was ridiculous shoehorned a tip to invincible
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)
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244 The whole jor el storyline was ridiculous shoehorned a tip to invincible
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)
It actually has been done before in 2 other Superman television properties - one which reversed it, and one which kept it...so, it wasn't new...
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)
It actually has been done before in 2 other Superman television properties - one which reversed it, and one which kept it...so, it wasn't new...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (tOcjL)
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The new Superman actor has given the best rationale for the trunks: Clark is a small town midwestern kid who grew up liking wrestling and wants his uniform to be something that won’t scare people but evoke that kind of feel.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (tgTrV)
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On the flip side, making a liberal filmmaker do a conservative movie and it making a lot of money is ironically hilarious.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (nyTxL)
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Just got out of Superman.
4/5 stars.
No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.
Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.
There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.
Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
4/5 stars.
No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.
Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.
There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.
Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (xcxpd)
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Looks like Superman will do pretty good bidness this weekend. They’re learning to sidestep get woke go broke. Anti-American movies can still make money if marketed right.
Critical Drinker noted that the quote that got Ace all hot and bothered was creatively mis-contexted by an extremely gay Variety reporter. Said reporter then asked every single person in the red carpet line about how terrible MAGA is.
Critical Drinker noted that the quote that got Ace all hot and bothered was creatively mis-contexted by an extremely gay Variety reporter. Said reporter then asked every single person in the red carpet line about how terrible MAGA is.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (AIhUY)
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I think part of it is that Zazlav at WB is tamping down the woke stuff—he shelved the Batgirl movie because it would hurt the character of Batman—and I think Gunn was on a short leash.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (tgTrV)
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Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Well, he does wear a cape.
Incidentally, last book thread some Moron had recommended Night Over Water by Ken Follet so I read it. One thing I learned was back in the day among the English upper class the way to indicate someone was a fag was to refer to them as "musical."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Well, he does wear a cape.
Incidentally, last book thread some Moron had recommended Night Over Water by Ken Follet so I read it. One thing I learned was back in the day among the English upper class the way to indicate someone was a fag was to refer to them as "musical."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (L/fGl)
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I guess its not a crazy notion considering his position, but it makes clark either ignorant or rebellious
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (bXbFr)
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Nood - Club ONT
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (vcPNM)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (ULPxl)
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AlaBAMA,
When an actor, director, writer goes out of his way to trumpet his lefty views and tie them to the work, I skip that work. If they don't do such a thing, I'm more inclined to give the work a shot. Stephen King is an example here -- I know he's a raging lefty and has been for years and years, but he used to keep it down better. I skip most of the novels now because he can't seem to keep the TDS out of them. A lot of his short fiction, where there's less room to do that, I can still enjoy.
Gunn has already cost himself my ticket money on Superman, for instance, just by opening his big mouth.
Close as I can get.
When an actor, director, writer goes out of his way to trumpet his lefty views and tie them to the work, I skip that work. If they don't do such a thing, I'm more inclined to give the work a shot. Stephen King is an example here -- I know he's a raging lefty and has been for years and years, but he used to keep it down better. I skip most of the novels now because he can't seem to keep the TDS out of them. A lot of his short fiction, where there's less room to do that, I can still enjoy.
Gunn has already cost himself my ticket money on Superman, for instance, just by opening his big mouth.
Close as I can get.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (q3u5l)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (zZu0s)
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Return of the Living Dead - One of my favourite black comedy zombie movies. Not many can get the balance right, but this thing absolutely nailed it (well, at least as my sense of humour is concerned.)
On the barrel that tarman was in:
PROPERTY
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
CALL 1 (800) 454-8000
Did I just dial it so you don't have to? Absolutely.
Rings a couple of times, then silently connects to another connection which gives a long ring, and then it's answered:
The number you have dialed has changed
To be connected to the new number, press '1' now at a cost of $2.99.
(Uh, no. I hung up.)
On the barrel that tarman was in:
PROPERTY
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
CALL 1 (800) 454-8000
Did I just dial it so you don't have to? Absolutely.
Rings a couple of times, then silently connects to another connection which gives a long ring, and then it's answered:
The number you have dialed has changed
To be connected to the new number, press '1' now at a cost of $2.99.
(Uh, no. I hung up.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 12, 2025 10:21 PM (O7YUW)
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If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)
This attitude is why the left controls everything.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)
This attitude is why the left controls everything.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (ImXfC)
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With the incident of the AI band on Spotify, I would suggest watching the movie "Looker" from 1981. Written and directed by Michael Crichton, starring Albert Finney, Susan Dey, and James Coburn.
Even more topical for that is the 1987 novel "Little Heroes" by Norman Spinrad. And by "topical" I mean "an artificially generated singer and music is the core of the plot".
Even more topical for that is the 1987 novel "Little Heroes" by Norman Spinrad. And by "topical" I mean "an artificially generated singer and music is the core of the plot".
Posted by: Sam at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (7jMef)
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It's Go Time, Donald at 258 --
Answered this as well as I'm able to these days at 239 and 255.
Thanks for the thread, moviegique.
Have a good one, gang.
Answered this as well as I'm able to these days at 239 and 255.
Thanks for the thread, moviegique.
Have a good one, gang.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:49 PM (q3u5l)
Posted by: four seasons at July 13, 2025 01:53 AM (3ek7K)
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It's not weasels in the bags.
Posted by: Frogzilla at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (3Idc3)
Hobby Thread - July 12, 2025 [TRex]
Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. We gave the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies(TM) a spin and it came up with rocks.
Rocks? Yes. Rocks. Not like "Let there be Rock" or "Can you smell what the rock is cooking?" Think more like "Welcome to the Rock" or "dumb as a box of rocks." You might be tempted to say "I'm not really into rocks as a hobby." Tough. Dig around in the content and soak in the comments. You might find that you're really into rocks and didn't know it or you might find reasons to get into rocks. Either way, glad you're here.Generally speaking, there are three main types of rocks: Igneous Rocks: Formed from cooled magma or lava, these rocks are primary evidence of Earth's fiery interior. Examples include granite and basalt. Sedimentary Rocks: Created from particles of older rocks, as well as plant or animal debris, these rocks are like history books, recording ancient surface conditions. Sandstone and limestone are common types. Metamorphic Rocks: Born from transformation under pressure and heat, these rocks are the shape-shifters of the geological world. Marble and slate are metamorphic rocks that started as something else but changed under Earth's immense forces.
It all started with an innovative initiative to drill down hundreds of feet to explore the possibility for using the Earth's internal energy to heat and cool the Museum. But when you start drilling deep down into the Earth's crust at a museum full of scientists, the urge to survey and study what's down there becomes irresistible. Alongside the geothermal drilling project, the Museum conducted a scientific coring initiative to better understand the geology beneath City Park and the larger Denver Basin. The scientific core was drilled nearly 1,000 feet below the surface, passing through layers of gravel and sand deposited by the South Platte River before reaching ancient bedrock from the Late Cretaceous Period. While it wasn't surprising that scientists uncovered fascinating geology all the way down, the scientific core extracted something that surpassed everyone's expectations: a partial dinosaur bone dating back 67.5 million years! "It's basically like winning the lottery and getting struck by lightning on the same day," said Dr. James Hagadorn, curator of geology at the Museum. "No one could have predicted that this little square foot of land where we started drilling would actually contain a dinosaur bone beneath it!"
My main hobby has always been art. Drawing. But more specifically, drawing dopey cartoons that have a lot of detail, no "higher meaning," and just basically make fun of stuff. I don't have the time, money, or interest to attend Art School, or Figure Drawing classes, but that hasn't stopped me. One of my recent doodles is this parody of DC. It's non-partisan: it's just a silly look at a city that somehow survives despite the fact that its worst enemies are also the majority of its residents and "leadership." Above all, it is a city that defines "bureaucracy." Size is usually 11" x 17", done on illustration board and inked/colored by hand. The drawings are usually done for someone (or a group) in particular, so lots of inside jokes; that way they don't look too generic. Total time for writing the jokes, pencils, ink, then color might have been 30-40 hours. Process: I do what used to be called "tight drawing." You draw the entire thing in pencil, then ink it in; basically, drawing it twice.TRex comments: 1) Wow. Very impressive. Thanks for sharing! 2) The detail is amazing. It might be difficult to see on the screen but check out these zoomed in parts.
Words of wisdom:
"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).
What if there really are more ways than one to rock? If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, hijack the thread for your hobbying as you see fit. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.
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Joe Rockhead is interested in rocks.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:32 PM (0eaVi)
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Welcome Hobbiests
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:33 PM (+qU29)
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Is the top pic a "do you see the "blank" kind of illo?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:33 PM (0eaVi)
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There's a dino skull middle left.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (0eaVi)
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I am a lifelong collector of rocks. I like fossils, and I like pretty colored stones. I have been busy with other things for a couple of years and haven't been running my tumbler, but I'd like to get back to it. I brought half a dozen five-gallon buckets full of rocks back from Wyoming when I moved back to Ohio. I might have a problem.
Must get it from Dad; his truck has a dashboard full of interesting rocks.
Must get it from Dad; his truck has a dashboard full of interesting rocks.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:39 PM (h7ZuX)
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Besides spider solitaire which is evil, I have a curiosity about rocks but limited to see one , pick it up and look at it closely before tossing it back.
Do have 2 pieces of coal in a flower bed, and a bag of small rocks for my miniatures games
Do have 2 pieces of coal in a flower bed, and a bag of small rocks for my miniatures games
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:39 PM (+qU29)
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A good friend of mine is a geologist.
Every time he talks about rocks, he makes them sound interesting.
Every time he talks about rocks, he makes them sound interesting.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 05:40 PM (IBQGV)
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Paul Nowak, your drawings would be great accents to maps.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:41 PM (h7ZuX)
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Up state as a kid on trips would look for fossils, Trilobites ( ?) were easy to find. How they got high up in the mountains in Pa is a good question
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (+qU29)
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I used to collect rocks.
Must have had almost six or seven of them.
A chunk of smooth corral that looked just like a skull when I found it half buried on a beach. A smooth stone I got from the LZ when I jumped out of a plane (with a parachute!). Small piece of lava from Hawaii. Unremarkable stone from Haiti...
Think the wife tossed them.
Whole collection. Gone.
Must have had almost six or seven of them.
A chunk of smooth corral that looked just like a skull when I found it half buried on a beach. A smooth stone I got from the LZ when I jumped out of a plane (with a parachute!). Small piece of lava from Hawaii. Unremarkable stone from Haiti...
Think the wife tossed them.
Whole collection. Gone.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (/lPRQ)
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9 Up state as a kid on trips would look for fossils, Trilobites ( ?) were easy to find. How they got high up in the mountains in Pa is a good question
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (+qU29)
Uplift.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (+qU29)
Uplift.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:44 PM (h7ZuX)
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Great, you dig one COB out of a Cretaceous sedimentary deposit and they do a Hobby Thread on rocks?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:46 PM (HlyYF)
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Paul Nowak your drawings are more than excellent. Gallery quality. I'm trying to think of the popular artist in the 80's who sold millions $ based on the same type of drawings. He would combine his drawings with cutouts that would give the art a 3D look.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 05:47 PM (VofaG)
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Beautiful picture up top. Thanks, polynikes, and thanks for the thread, TRex.. I like rocks. Used to collect them from the beach in Canada where my family went.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:47 PM (2GCMq)
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The inside joke is that PI is actually a geologist, and has been tormenting family members to stop and pick up rocks and fossils all of the way back to the time he was just a wee Idiot!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM (HlyYF)
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Living in Central WA I have lots of rocks around. The best educational videos are from Professor Nick Zentner from CWU. His Nick on the Rocks series is great. During Covid, he did a series from his backyard. The volcanic flows here are remarkable and, with the Ice Age Floods the landscape has some fascinating features.
Highly recommended. This is also the home of the Ellensburg Blue. Lots of old gold mines around and even once, long ago, a few diamonds were found.
Highly recommended. This is also the home of the Ellensburg Blue. Lots of old gold mines around and even once, long ago, a few diamonds were found.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at July 12, 2025 05:49 PM (EgLGT)
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[Top photo: Sea Stacks by polynikes (16x20 oil)]
This is a very pleasing painting. The colorful patterns at the left contrast nicely with the distant sea stacks.
I would love to have a similar original!
This is a very pleasing painting. The colorful patterns at the left contrast nicely with the distant sea stacks.
I would love to have a similar original!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 12, 2025 05:49 PM (PQOq3)
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15 The inside joke is that PI is actually a geologist, and has been tormenting family members to stop and pick up rocks and fossils all of the way back to the time he was just a wee Idiot!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM
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This is about as close as we're going to get to a custom tailor-made PI Hobby Thread theme. Glad you're here to pillage accordingly. Enjoy!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM
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This is about as close as we're going to get to a custom tailor-made PI Hobby Thread theme. Glad you're here to pillage accordingly. Enjoy!
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 05:50 PM (Eaoic)
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On other hobby stuff, next week at this time plan to be at Historicon the miniature war game convention.
Having sinus issues but come Hell or high water plan to be there.
Having sinus issues but come Hell or high water plan to be there.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:50 PM (+qU29)
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I do the rock.
Posted by: Tim Curry at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (+xk6Q)
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A long time ago (when I was very young) we collected small stones as keepstakes when we went to places.
A few years ago, I found the collection tucked in with a stone polishing set. So I ran them through it.
Big mistake. They didn't polish up as well as I'd thought. Now I feel as if I've removed the memories from the stones.
That makes me sad... :-(
A few years ago, I found the collection tucked in with a stone polishing set. So I ran them through it.
Big mistake. They didn't polish up as well as I'd thought. Now I feel as if I've removed the memories from the stones.
That makes me sad... :-(
Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (utq9C)
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A few years ago, I found the collection tucked in with a stone polishing set. So I ran them through it.
Big mistake. They didn't polish up as well as I'd thought. Now I feel as if I've removed the memories from the stones.
That makes me sad... :-(
Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (utq9C)
I had a stone that, when it came out of the first polishing stage, was covered with little tiny starfish shaped fossils. They were thin, though, and the next stage removed most of them. That made me sad.
Big mistake. They didn't polish up as well as I'd thought. Now I feel as if I've removed the memories from the stones.
That makes me sad... :-(
Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (utq9C)
I had a stone that, when it came out of the first polishing stage, was covered with little tiny starfish shaped fossils. They were thin, though, and the next stage removed most of them. That made me sad.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:56 PM (h7ZuX)
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My wife had a couple of milk crates of rocks she had picked up on a trip to Canada. She had been carrying them around for about 10 years before she married me. I finally got her to agree to let me use it for run-off area I put down under and around the hose-bib out back as part of the paver path. I made the path to that faucet, so I wouldn't have to walk in mud year-round anymore.
So I have a paver pathway (with the gaps between mortared in with crushed limestone) leading up to the faucet, and a square enclosure made in part with salvaged concrete curbstone, holding in a wide selection of Canadian rocks.
I really am not one for landscaping, but that looks classy.
(also when we go to the coast and my wife picks up more agates, I add them to that )
I am enthralled by bedding in pavers with crushed limestone instead of sand. It is cheaper than buying bags of sand, and it is better at preventing weeds from growing up and through. I suggest a finger-width gap between pavers at the very least, because that lets the gaps get filled fully, and the limestone starts to cement itself together when it rains.
Bags of crushed limestone can be bought at Tractor Supply.
So I have a paver pathway (with the gaps between mortared in with crushed limestone) leading up to the faucet, and a square enclosure made in part with salvaged concrete curbstone, holding in a wide selection of Canadian rocks.
I really am not one for landscaping, but that looks classy.
(also when we go to the coast and my wife picks up more agates, I add them to that )
I am enthralled by bedding in pavers with crushed limestone instead of sand. It is cheaper than buying bags of sand, and it is better at preventing weeds from growing up and through. I suggest a finger-width gap between pavers at the very least, because that lets the gaps get filled fully, and the limestone starts to cement itself together when it rains.
Bags of crushed limestone can be bought at Tractor Supply.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 05:59 PM (D7oie)
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Wow, great painting Polynikes...I would definitely hang that in my house.
Paul, you are a very talented artist. With either a fantastic sense of humor or actual experience in the DC area!
Paul, you are a very talented artist. With either a fantastic sense of humor or actual experience in the DC area!
Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 05:59 PM (Eaoic)
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My grandfather was a mining engineer. He had an awesome collection of rocks, minerals, gems and gold. All collected from various mines he worked... mostly in the West. I have a vile of uncut rubies and some rough diamonds (not jewelry quality) and some other, semi-precious stones. None really worth much. Just interesting.
He also had a pretty interesting collection of fossils including a piece of Mastodon tusk, prehistoric shark teeth, shells, unidentified jaw bones, toes, etc. I still have some of all that stashed away or on display.
He also had a pretty interesting collection of fossils including a piece of Mastodon tusk, prehistoric shark teeth, shells, unidentified jaw bones, toes, etc. I still have some of all that stashed away or on display.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:00 PM (Q4IgG)
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In the late '90s, there was a shop in Waveland, MS, whose owner/operator used rocks as the basis to paint customers' cats. Each stone was shaped much like a sleeping, curled-up cat -- I don't know if she found them, or took larger rocks and sanded/chiseled them into the right shape, or both. Then she would use a photograph to paint the stone as if it were your cat, asleep. In '98 or so I saw similar ones for sale at a mall in CO, and wanted to ask if they got theirs from the shop in Waveland. Or maybe it went in the other direction.
Waveland pretty much got wiped from the map by Katrina twenty years ago, so I have no idea if the lady is even still alive. But the work was well done. I thought of commissioning a stone portrait of my then-still living red tabby-with-white Arizona, but never got around to it.
Waveland pretty much got wiped from the map by Katrina twenty years ago, so I have no idea if the lady is even still alive. But the work was well done. I thought of commissioning a stone portrait of my then-still living red tabby-with-white Arizona, but never got around to it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:00 PM (omVj0)
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I used to take a rock home with me from where ever I traveled. I used them in our back yard garden when we lived in CA. Didn't have time or interest in harvesting them and packing them for the big move.
Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 06:01 PM (Eaoic)
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Much of the beach where I live is rocky.
Rocks are awesome. Did you know you could sit by the water, pick up a rock, tell it your worries and toss it in? There are more rocks than you have worries. And the rocks will hold your secrets. And relieve you of your burdens.
Try it. Rocks are awesome.
Rocks are awesome. Did you know you could sit by the water, pick up a rock, tell it your worries and toss it in? There are more rocks than you have worries. And the rocks will hold your secrets. And relieve you of your burdens.
Try it. Rocks are awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:02 PM (IjKjy)
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I used to have arrowheads with imprints of plant leaves that I collected as a child in upstate NY...have no idea what happened to them...maybe I'll find them one day when I clean out my parents house, again.
Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (Eaoic)
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Nice ritual, nurse r. Don't even have to throw it in the water, if there's none nearby. Just put it down. It will still hold your troubles.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (h7ZuX)
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I am going to throw in some PI stories, each of which hopefully makes a point about rock/fossil collecting.
There are MANY more places in the U.S. with cool fossils that are easily collected compared to cool rocks. Literally, most of the limestone "road cut" exposures in the U.S. potentially have a cornucopia of fossils.
Boring story: Took our kids to KC for spring break many years ago, and we were ahead of our check in time at the hotel, so I asked Bride of PI if we could stop at one of the road cuts and look for fossils. She let out a big sigh, and reluctantly agreed.
I pull over to a promising one and load out me and the kids. I start finding fossils immediately, but the kids weren't having much luck (and were getting a little bored). I showed them the handfuls of fossils that I had already found and what the common fossils actually looked like in that deposit.
Pretty soon all of the kids began finding lots of fossils!
Point of the story: When looking for things like small fossils, your eye will not initially be calibrated to "recognize" a find. Keep on searching, and definitely look at the finds of others.
end Part 1.)
There are MANY more places in the U.S. with cool fossils that are easily collected compared to cool rocks. Literally, most of the limestone "road cut" exposures in the U.S. potentially have a cornucopia of fossils.
Boring story: Took our kids to KC for spring break many years ago, and we were ahead of our check in time at the hotel, so I asked Bride of PI if we could stop at one of the road cuts and look for fossils. She let out a big sigh, and reluctantly agreed.
I pull over to a promising one and load out me and the kids. I start finding fossils immediately, but the kids weren't having much luck (and were getting a little bored). I showed them the handfuls of fossils that I had already found and what the common fossils actually looked like in that deposit.
Pretty soon all of the kids began finding lots of fossils!
Point of the story: When looking for things like small fossils, your eye will not initially be calibrated to "recognize" a find. Keep on searching, and definitely look at the finds of others.
end Part 1.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (HlyYF)
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Part 2:
Surprisingly, your brain/eyes will then begin to find fossils on ground that you previously covered!
(The same is also true when you are looking for small, semi-precious gemstones, etc. You have to get your eyes capable of seeing the prize!)
Surprisingly, your brain/eyes will then begin to find fossils on ground that you previously covered!
(The same is also true when you are looking for small, semi-precious gemstones, etc. You have to get your eyes capable of seeing the prize!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (HlyYF)
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There's a dino skull middle left.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (0eaVi)
I was going to paint the Statue of Liberty buried halfway on the beach.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (0eaVi)
I was going to paint the Statue of Liberty buried halfway on the beach.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:06 PM (VofaG)
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Rocks are awesome. Did you know you could sit by the water, pick up a rock, tell it your worries and toss it in? There are more rocks than you have worries. And the rocks will hold your secrets. And relieve you of your burdens.
Try it. Rocks are awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:02 PM (IjKjy)
I broke my right shoulder (head of the humerus) in 2012, and wound up with temporary screws and a sling for about three months. One of my self-imposed PT drills once I got all the screws out was to teach myself how to use a sling, since that made me do a full rotation of the shoulder. Once underhand wasn't so bad, I started on overhand.
I went down to the river since that was the only place that had lots of pebbles, and I mostly always hit the river
Try it. Rocks are awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:02 PM (IjKjy)
I broke my right shoulder (head of the humerus) in 2012, and wound up with temporary screws and a sling for about three months. One of my self-imposed PT drills once I got all the screws out was to teach myself how to use a sling, since that made me do a full rotation of the shoulder. Once underhand wasn't so bad, I started on overhand.
I went down to the river since that was the only place that had lots of pebbles, and I mostly always hit the river
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 06:07 PM (D7oie)
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If "rocks" can include natural sculptures on the huge side, like the White Rocks:
When I lived in CO I drove down to Castlewood Canyon State Park, which is about halfway between Denver and Co. Springs on an older two-lane highway east of I-25. Hiking along one of the paths, I happened to look up, and thought for an instant I was in a Jurassic Park movie. Some of the formations at the top of the river canyon were shaped very much like dinosaur heads! An allosaur, I thought, a smaller and leaner head that looked something like a velociraptor, and a couple more. It was like seeing sculptures in clouds, except in stone, and they did not go away if you looked aside and then back.
I've never seen anyone mention the features in describing Castlewood Canyon, not even their brochures. Maybe their website mentions those.
When I lived in CO I drove down to Castlewood Canyon State Park, which is about halfway between Denver and Co. Springs on an older two-lane highway east of I-25. Hiking along one of the paths, I happened to look up, and thought for an instant I was in a Jurassic Park movie. Some of the formations at the top of the river canyon were shaped very much like dinosaur heads! An allosaur, I thought, a smaller and leaner head that looked something like a velociraptor, and a couple more. It was like seeing sculptures in clouds, except in stone, and they did not go away if you looked aside and then back.
I've never seen anyone mention the features in describing Castlewood Canyon, not even their brochures. Maybe their website mentions those.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:07 PM (omVj0)
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They had a TV series called Dino Hunters. Those guys are ruthless.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:07 PM (VofaG)
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When I was knee high to a grasshopper, my neighbor was a science professor at a nearby college. He used to take us up to Hawk Mountain Sanctuary in Eastern PA to help the game wardens count migrating Eagles, peregrines, hawks, and the like.
We always took a side trim nearby to The River of Rocks, and usually got a science lecture in the process about how it was formed in the Ice Age (as were most of the mountains in the area). Interesting stuff, but I'm more inclined to be interested by Pop Rocks.
We always took a side trim nearby to The River of Rocks, and usually got a science lecture in the process about how it was formed in the Ice Age (as were most of the mountains in the area). Interesting stuff, but I'm more inclined to be interested by Pop Rocks.
Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM (dIske)
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PI, I'd love to send you a picture of a fossil I found. Maybe, being a geologist, you would have a clue about it. I think it's some kind of pebbly-textured lizard-like critter.
I found it in the gravel at the library.
Landscaping gravel is a great place to look for fossils.
I found it in the gravel at the library.
Landscaping gravel is a great place to look for fossils.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM (h7ZuX)
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Great Lakes rocks are addictive
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (jPdyB)
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If you collect rocks, probably shouldn't watch the 60's Outer Limits episode "Corpus Earthling."
I like photographing rocks, I then cut those photos up and repurpose them in animation. I had a character who was almost entirely made of rocks from a cave wall.
I like photographing rocks, I then cut those photos up and repurpose them in animation. I had a character who was almost entirely made of rocks from a cave wall.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)
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That Paul Nowak drawing is amazing.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)
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Social activity being in the nature of a hobby, I can say that Hadrian the Seventh and my lovely bride and I had a nice lunch at Joe's in Alvin and still be kinda on topic.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)
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41 That Paul Nowak drawing is amazing.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)
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Yes it is! And amusing. "Need $$$ for Bribes". LOL
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)
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Yes it is! And amusing. "Need $$$ for Bribes". LOL
Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (dIske)
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>>I am enthralled by bedding in pavers with crushed limestone instead of sand.
A popular alternative around here is crushed clam shells.
My town is basically built on glacial till. We've got a lot of rocks. Our beaches tend to be rockier than even the beaches on towns on the Cape or down south.
Rhode Island is the only New England state that was at one time part of the micro continent Avalonia before it had an unfortunate collision with Godwana.
A popular alternative around here is crushed clam shells.
My town is basically built on glacial till. We've got a lot of rocks. Our beaches tend to be rockier than even the beaches on towns on the Cape or down south.
Rhode Island is the only New England state that was at one time part of the micro continent Avalonia before it had an unfortunate collision with Godwana.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (viF8m)
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I would love to find flint, think as a kid would find it down by river yet read its not supposed to be exactly here. There are places it's common.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (+qU29)
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Seastacks are pretty awesome. Bandon, OR has som beauties. Thanks for rocking the Hobby Thead, TRex.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 06:14 PM (LVaYG)
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Gondwana
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
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My dad once took my brother and I to Calvert Cliffs, MD to look for shark's teeth.
There's also, or was, a nuclear power plant there too. At the time, back in the early 70's, it was pretty remote.
There's also, or was, a nuclear power plant there too. At the time, back in the early 70's, it was pretty remote.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:17 PM (Q4IgG)
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My great grandfather from Sweden was a shell and rock collector. His collection once featured in a Long Island, NY newspaper .
Anyway he had one smooth black stone a little smaller than a walnut he collected as a young man. I don’t know if he called it his stress stone but that’s what my mother called it when she inherited it. He used to rub his thumb on it . My mom continued to do it but not as much. After
80 years you can see where it wore down into a thumb size indentation. I have it now but I never did the stress reliever thumb rub on it.
Anyway he had one smooth black stone a little smaller than a walnut he collected as a young man. I don’t know if he called it his stress stone but that’s what my mother called it when she inherited it. He used to rub his thumb on it . My mom continued to do it but not as much. After
80 years you can see where it wore down into a thumb size indentation. I have it now but I never did the stress reliever thumb rub on it.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:17 PM (VofaG)
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45 I would love to find flint, think as a kid would find it down by river yet read its not supposed to be exactly here. There are places it's common.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM
My father was a rockhound, and when I was 12 or so, he took me to a place to collect flint. Not a mine, exactly, but a place where you could find flint in pits and occasionally just lying on the ground. When we were leaving there was a fellow near where we'd parked that had found a quartz deposit and he was sitting there surrounded by sparkling quartz crystals. Kind of like the inside of a geode, but big like feet across.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM
My father was a rockhound, and when I was 12 or so, he took me to a place to collect flint. Not a mine, exactly, but a place where you could find flint in pits and occasionally just lying on the ground. When we were leaving there was a fellow near where we'd parked that had found a quartz deposit and he was sitting there surrounded by sparkling quartz crystals. Kind of like the inside of a geode, but big like feet across.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:17 PM (VmDLh)
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Paul Nowak, I love that cartoon. Reminds me of old school Mad Magazine cartoons
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 12, 2025 06:18 PM (wItF4)
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Upper Peninsula of Michigan, especially the Keweenaw Peninsula for collecting float copper, banded iron, Jacobson sandstone, agates, etc. Mine tailings everywhere, and the A. e. Seamen museum at Michigan Tech is fantastic.
A number of rock shows are held there at the beginning of August.
A number of rock shows are held there at the beginning of August.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (wIzmN)
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Collecting on public lands:
Usually things like road cuts (or creek banks) on interstate and state highways have no restrictions on collecting. However, the rules are obviously different in national monuments and parks or on Indian lands. I NEVER collect there unless there is a sign granting explicit permission.
Safety: The biggest danger while collecting from road cuts ... is the cars! Especially with children. Of course, I have seen adults wander out onto the highway while looking at an armload of fossils that they are going to put into their car.
The second biggest danger is people climbing up a slope above other collectors. Mr. Gravity is NOT your friend! A fist-sized rock that bounces 20' down a slope can crack somebody's skull at the bottom.
The third biggest danger is poisonous/biting critters. The best fossil collecting sites generally have loose, platy rocks. Rattlesnakes, scorpions, etc. ALSO love loose, platy rocks. Be careful while collecting, and feel free to move and turn over rocks with a stick - before you pick it up for a closer look.
Usually things like road cuts (or creek banks) on interstate and state highways have no restrictions on collecting. However, the rules are obviously different in national monuments and parks or on Indian lands. I NEVER collect there unless there is a sign granting explicit permission.
Safety: The biggest danger while collecting from road cuts ... is the cars! Especially with children. Of course, I have seen adults wander out onto the highway while looking at an armload of fossils that they are going to put into their car.
The second biggest danger is people climbing up a slope above other collectors. Mr. Gravity is NOT your friend! A fist-sized rock that bounces 20' down a slope can crack somebody's skull at the bottom.
The third biggest danger is poisonous/biting critters. The best fossil collecting sites generally have loose, platy rocks. Rattlesnakes, scorpions, etc. ALSO love loose, platy rocks. Be careful while collecting, and feel free to move and turn over rocks with a stick - before you pick it up for a closer look.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (HlyYF)
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Gondwana
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
Better head to the doctor to get some antibiotics, jack. Not unusual for a sailor...
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)
Better head to the doctor to get some antibiotics, jack. Not unusual for a sailor...
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (zZu0s)
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Not too many rocks around Da Swamp here. One place that does have some is the Miss. River shore in front of St. Louis Cathedral. The levee has the "Moonwalk" pathway along the top; but then piles of good-sized rocks lie on the water side for blocks. The upriver section has been turned into a tourist/local promenade, and below about Dumaine Street there are still warehouses and docks, but for a long stretch it looks like a canyon rockfall that happened to wind up along a riverbank. (I presume they were placed there long ago to shore up the levee.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (omVj0)
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you collect rocks, probably shouldn't watch the 60's Outer Limits episode "Corpus Earthling."
I like photographing rocks, I then cut those photos up and repurpose them in animation. I had a character who was almost entirely made of rocks from a cave wall.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1
Cool. I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention Galaxy Quest after reading your post.
I like photographing rocks, I then cut those photos up and repurpose them in animation. I had a character who was almost entirely made of rocks from a cave wall.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1
Cool. I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention Galaxy Quest after reading your post.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (VofaG)
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42 Social activity being in the nature of a hobby, I can say that Hadrian the Seventh and my lovely bride and I had a nice lunch at Joe's in Alvin and still be kinda on topic.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)
I think micro MoMes are always on topic! Very nice!
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)
I think micro MoMes are always on topic! Very nice!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:21 PM (h7ZuX)
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My neighbor paints rocks. She edges her garden with them
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 12, 2025 06:22 PM (P9pDS)
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Lurker breaking cover here. I'm 68, and a new Geology Nut since I started Gold Prospecting 10 years back. I'm on X, but that's about it. Religious J.J. reader every morning. Always found the Ace comments intimidating, but no more.
If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!
If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (QubZY)
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Skip, I live not far from Flint Ridge in Ohio. Very nice colors in the flint here.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (h7ZuX)
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38 PI, I'd love to send you a picture of a fossil I found. Maybe, being a geologist, you would have a clue about it. I think it's some kind of pebbly-textured lizard-like critter.
I found it in the gravel at the library.
Landscaping gravel is a great place to look for fossils.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM
Dash,
I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!
I found it in the gravel at the library.
Landscaping gravel is a great place to look for fossils.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM
Dash,
I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)
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My wife wants to go to Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. Every once in a while someone poking around there comes up with rock worth millions.
Hate it break it to her....
Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (Q4IgG)
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I have flint knapping tools, and was starting to learn before we got the puppies six years ago. Having puppies and trying to keep them away from flint shards was incompatible. Another I hobby I need to return to, and get good at.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (h7ZuX)
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I think micro MoMes are always on topic! Very nice!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:21 PM
The plan is to eventually hold a mini mome barbecue at the Cyber compound here in the burgeoning metropolis of Santa Fe, Texas.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:21 PM
The plan is to eventually hold a mini mome barbecue at the Cyber compound here in the burgeoning metropolis of Santa Fe, Texas.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:25 PM (VmDLh)
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Paul’s The Tennis Ball monument would have been perfect for the Pet thread.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:25 PM (VofaG)
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Social activity being in the nature of a hobby, I can say that Hadrian the Seventh and my lovely bride and I had a nice lunch at Joe's in Alvin and still be kinda on topic.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)
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Mini MoMes are the best!
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)
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Mini MoMes are the best!
Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 06:27 PM (Eaoic)
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59 Lurker breaking cover here. I'm 68, and a new Geology Nut since I started Gold Prospecting 10 years back. I'm on X, but that's about it. Religious J.J. reader every morning. Always found the Ace comments intimidating, but no more.
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM
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Welcome! Thanks for jumping in. Glad we stumbled onto a suitable topic for you!
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM
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Welcome! Thanks for jumping in. Glad we stumbled onto a suitable topic for you!
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:27 PM (Eaoic)
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My wife wants to go to Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. Every once in a while someone poking around there comes up with rock worth millions.
Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (Q4IgG
I’d have the same luck as I have playing the lottery and more tired.
Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (Q4IgG
I’d have the same luck as I have playing the lottery and more tired.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:28 PM (VofaG)
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Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM
Where do you do your prospected and have you filed a claim yet?😎
Where do you do your prospected and have you filed a claim yet?😎
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:30 PM (VofaG)
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If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM
Welcome Jeff!
Congrats on the de-lurking!
I am usually the driver on family road trips. On MANY occasions, the Bride of PI has said, "Quit explaining what all of those colors and layers mean - and keep your eyes on the road!"
(No wrecks, yet! No divorces, yet!)
P.S. Good luck on the gold prospecting. If you ever get some really good results, post it in an overnight thread. I suspect you would generate a fair number of reply comments.
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM
Welcome Jeff!
Congrats on the de-lurking!
I am usually the driver on family road trips. On MANY occasions, the Bride of PI has said, "Quit explaining what all of those colors and layers mean - and keep your eyes on the road!"
(No wrecks, yet! No divorces, yet!)
P.S. Good luck on the gold prospecting. If you ever get some really good results, post it in an overnight thread. I suspect you would generate a fair number of reply comments.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:30 PM (HlyYF)
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Hey you mooks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (BK31K)
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Prospecting stupid autocorrect. Made a bad joke worse.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (VofaG)
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Polynikes, I love that painting. Excellent use of light.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (0aYVJ)
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you collect rocks, probably shouldn't watch the 60's Outer Limits episode "Corpus Earthling.". . .
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025
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I had to look that up, despite remembering the series from my kidhood. Robert Culp was in it, which would put it on my must-watch list anyway, and the descriptions on IMDb make it sound even more intriguing.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025
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I had to look that up, despite remembering the series from my kidhood. Robert Culp was in it, which would put it on my must-watch list anyway, and the descriptions on IMDb make it sound even more intriguing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (omVj0)
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If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (QubZY)
There is a series of books specific to regions that explain roadside geology. Look for "Roadside Geology of (insert state here)"
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (QubZY)
There is a series of books specific to regions that explain roadside geology. Look for "Roadside Geology of (insert state here)"
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (h7ZuX)
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As I recall, the flint was from Flint Ridge, Ohio. He also went to a place in Northern Idaho that allowed you to dig garnet and came back with 10 fl oz or so of garnet gravel.
The thing is, there was a place that we went to in Colorado or Wyoming that had a field of black rocks and sand and the rocks were full of these spiral cone shaped fossils. I've always wondered where that was.
My father would cut the rocks into pieces and shape and polish them to make jewelry with.
The thing is, there was a place that we went to in Colorado or Wyoming that had a field of black rocks and sand and the rocks were full of these spiral cone shaped fossils. I've always wondered where that was.
My father would cut the rocks into pieces and shape and polish them to make jewelry with.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (VmDLh)
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These comments confirm the wisdom of gold mining/prospecting as a hobby thread theme at some point in the future.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (Eaoic)
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Rocks? Jasper Beach,Maine for the win!
Posted by: mdk at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (NbvJs)
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Ladies, please calm yourselves. There’s plenty to go around.
Posted by: Dash Riprock at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (khEZ7)
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I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)
Hm...not seeing it
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)
Hm...not seeing it
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (h7ZuX)
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As wee tykes, my friends and I looked for interesting (from our point of view) rocks. Might be an odd shape or have an unusual texture or color. We did learn about the stuff we collected from library books and encyclopedias. This was decades before computers. The prize was finding stones with iron pyrite, fools gold, showing. Those became treasure when we played at being pirates. Collecting would be too strong a description but we did learn about them.
We never found any fossils but looking at the stones with a good magnifying glass, courtesy of my grandfather, revealed all sorts of interesting aspects.
We never found any fossils but looking at the stones with a good magnifying glass, courtesy of my grandfather, revealed all sorts of interesting aspects.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (yTvNw)
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Seastacks are pretty awesome. Bandon, OR has som beauties. Thanks for rocking the Hobby Thead, TRex.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 06:14 PM (LVaYG)
Nice golf course there too.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 06:14 PM (LVaYG)
Nice golf course there too.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (W/lyH)
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Nice golf course there too.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (W/lyH)
I think they have 5 there now.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (W/lyH)
I think they have 5 there now.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (VofaG)
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And Paul Nowak, outstanding work! Reminds me of Richard Scarry's work. I spent endless hours as a kid finding new details in his elaborate drawings.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (0aYVJ)
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Time to think about dinner. We have Addams Family Values from 1993 on DVD for tonight, too. Better than Svengoolie's scheduled Invaders From Mars for sure.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:38 PM (omVj0)
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Ladies, please calm yourselves. There’s plenty to go around.
Posted by: Dash Riprock at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (khEZ7)
You sniveling maggot!
Drop and give me 50!!!
Posted by: Dash Riprock at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (khEZ7)
You sniveling maggot!
Drop and give me 50!!!
Posted by: Sergeant Rock at July 12, 2025 06:38 PM (W/lyH)
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77 These comments confirm the wisdom of gold mining/prospecting as a hobby thread theme at some point in the future.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM
My ex had an uncle called "Polack Joe" (the Alaskan prospector not the Chicago gangster) that was killed by a claim jumper who was then acquitted because the judge was a relation.
Or that's what the story went.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM
My ex had an uncle called "Polack Joe" (the Alaskan prospector not the Chicago gangster) that was killed by a claim jumper who was then acquitted because the judge was a relation.
Or that's what the story went.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:38 PM (VmDLh)
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I managed to accomplish some things today. On the hobby/recreation side, I repaired the 160 meter long wire antenna for my HF ham station and installed accessory tracks on ol' what's-her-name's kayak.
Posted by: Bert G at July 12, 2025 06:39 PM (VARTN)
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Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (viF8m)
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It seems all boys like to skip rocks. My friends and I certainly did. Finding the right shape and learning the best angle to toss was part of growing up. I was pretty good and had a side arm fling that was good for a dozen or more skips. Had to wait for the slack time between tides to have sufficiently smooth water otherwise the waves would swallow up the stones.
Thinking about skipping rocks still makes me smile.
Thinking about skipping rocks still makes me smile.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (yTvNw)
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Intertubes tells me there are now 7 courses at Bandon Golf Resort,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)
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I’ve always liked rocks, kept good ones around. One of my favorites came from a silver mine, weighs a couple pounds has a vein of pure silver right through the middle of it,
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:42 PM (Hlfhp)
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91 Thinking about skipping rocks still makes me smile.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM
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Agree. Surely a required skill to be learned before graduating from childhood.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM
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Agree. Surely a required skill to be learned before graduating from childhood.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (Eaoic)
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No, JackStraw, I have no idea. What is that? I'd live there, except not enough trees.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (h7ZuX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (63Dwl)
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84 And Paul Nowak, outstanding work! Reminds me of Richard Scarry's work. I spent endless hours as a kid finding new details in his elaborate drawings.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (0aYVJ)
When my daughter was little she loved Richard Scarry’s Christmas book. I did, too!
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (0aYVJ)
When my daughter was little she loved Richard Scarry’s Christmas book. I did, too!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (Hlfhp)
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Intertubes tells me there are now 7 courses at Bandon Golf Resort,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)
*starts planning trip to Bandon*
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)
*starts planning trip to Bandon*
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (W/lyH)
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This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
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89 ... "Speaking of rocks, does this place look familiar?"
JackStraw,
Oh yes! Funny, I remember the rocks but not the building. Maybe it came after I left or my memory is spotty. (And yes, Newport Bridge was convenient but I missed the ferry boat rides to Jamestown.)
JackStraw,
Oh yes! Funny, I remember the rocks but not the building. Maybe it came after I left or my memory is spotty. (And yes, Newport Bridge was convenient but I missed the ferry boat rides to Jamestown.)
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (yTvNw)
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This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
That’s my sediment too.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
That’s my sediment too.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (VofaG)
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97 When my daughter was little she loved Richard Scarry’s Christmas book. I did, too!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM
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Excellent reference.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM
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Excellent reference.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (Eaoic)
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>>No, JackStraw, I have no idea. What is that? I'd live there, except not enough trees.
It's called Clingstone but most people are here just call the house on the rock. Was built around the start of last century and has withstood hurricanes and everything else.
Cool place but if you have to run to the store for milk it's gotta be a pain.
It's called Clingstone but most people are here just call the house on the rock. Was built around the start of last century and has withstood hurricanes and everything else.
Cool place but if you have to run to the store for milk it's gotta be a pain.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (viF8m)
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99 This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
Do. Not. Start.
LOL
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
Do. Not. Start.
LOL
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (h7ZuX)
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Precious stones are, well, rocks, too. Gump's Department Store in San Francisco began as a store for jade. Mr. Gump had incredible skill at choosing the very best. And he was blind. He could tell just from the touch.
Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 06:47 PM (8p/ok)
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>>Oh yes! Funny, I remember the rocks but not the building. Maybe it came after I left or my memory is spotty. (And yes, Newport Bridge was convenient but I missed the ferry boat rides to Jamestown.)
There is a new ferry, people only, that now runs between the two. If I'm just heading over to town in Newport I take it. Much better than trying to find a place to park during the season.
There is a new ferry, people only, that now runs between the two. If I'm just heading over to town in Newport I take it. Much better than trying to find a place to park during the season.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM (viF8m)
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My wife’s best friend had a father who was a geologist. They would take long car trips through the west, and she said the worst part was always when they would crest some ridge and then her dad would stop the car, get out and give them all a 30 minute lecture on what an Anticline was and why they could see one right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM (Hlfhp)
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Hey Jeff!
Welcome!
Remember, after 25 posts you are eligible for the igneous membership.
(See how I stuck to the theme of the thread?)
Welcome!
Remember, after 25 posts you are eligible for the igneous membership.
(See how I stuck to the theme of the thread?)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:49 PM (W/lyH)
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Picked up a tile saw to cut geodes. Great fun.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 06:49 PM (K2fwt)
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Spent the day organizing the existing gear on the new ship. Much to do and the TO BUY list is long. Amazon is a lifesaver.
It's a lot like moving into a new house, but with a lot fewer locations to squirrel away the important stuff.
There is nothing equal to being out in the water on a beautiful sunny day, the "California" part notwithstanding.
It's a lot like moving into a new house, but with a lot fewer locations to squirrel away the important stuff.
There is nothing equal to being out in the water on a beautiful sunny day, the "California" part notwithstanding.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 06:50 PM (BK31K)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 06:50 PM (9pzfg)
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I have flint knapping tools, and was starting to learn before we got the puppies six years ago. Having puppies and trying to keep them away from flint shards was incompatible. Another I hobby I need to return to, and get good at.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (h7ZuX)
Probably for the cooking thread, but here is a video on butchering a buffalo using Clovis toolsets. For Science!
youtu.be/XmsrkFjPiKM
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (h7ZuX)
Probably for the cooking thread, but here is a video on butchering a buffalo using Clovis toolsets. For Science!
youtu.be/XmsrkFjPiKM
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 06:51 PM (D7oie)
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Rockhounding 101 had an ad titled 'Christian kids deserve better that a King of Kings'. What the actual heck?
Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 06:51 PM (LHPAg)
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polynikes,
I looked at that painting and thought it was yours. The way the greens and rust colors mingle and the flow and details of the rocks seemed familiar. Lovely.
I looked at that painting and thought it was yours. The way the greens and rust colors mingle and the flow and details of the rocks seemed familiar. Lovely.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (yTvNw)
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Cicero, what boat did you get?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (viF8m)
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A geologist walks into a bar and orders gem on the rocks.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (VofaG)
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This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
Do. Not. Start.
LOL
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (h7ZuX)
So...shale we stop?
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)
Do. Not. Start.
LOL
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (h7ZuX)
So...shale we stop?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:54 PM (W/lyH)
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117 So...shale we stop?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:54 PM
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Nah. Be boulder. Keep going.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:54 PM
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Nah. Be boulder. Keep going.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Eaoic)
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Cicero the "California" part besides the amazing weather like the current/recent weather is just fine - and especially when it's about the water. Always enjoy being on the water anywhere but outside the tropics I'll take this area over any other part of all the coasts.
What's the new ship? And I assume WestMarine is a place you stop as often as Trader Joe's?
What's the new ship? And I assume WestMarine is a place you stop as often as Trader Joe's?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 06:56 PM (1m82a)
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Oooh! I really like that painting, Polynikes!
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 12, 2025 06:56 PM (rF2iL)
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Rock skipping contests are the bomb
Double elimination. One on one. Add three throws together. Winner goes to meet winner. Loser to loser. If you lose twice, you’re out.
Between kids, parents and grands we had 9-12 of us depending on the camping trip.
My friend Tina’s mom won a bunch. So did my Marine. I won a couple times.
Very competitive group. No “letting the kids win” with us.
Double elimination. One on one. Add three throws together. Winner goes to meet winner. Loser to loser. If you lose twice, you’re out.
Between kids, parents and grands we had 9-12 of us depending on the camping trip.
My friend Tina’s mom won a bunch. So did my Marine. I won a couple times.
Very competitive group. No “letting the kids win” with us.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:57 PM (XS2xc)
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Our youngest daughter has always been fascinated by rocks of all kinds. Anytime we woukd vacation out west she had ine bag for rocks. When she filled it that was it. It was so bad that at Yellowstone we told her that all the ricks were numbered and tagged like the animals so the rangers knew if one was taken.
Posted by: Megthered at July 12, 2025 06:58 PM (GOJbT)
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I've always wanted to use feldspar as a pun, but I can't make it work. I remember my 8th grade geology teacher calling it "feldshparr." Kind of a Sean Connery thing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:58 PM (0aYVJ)
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Paul's drawing is brilliant. Sort of a doodle on steroids. The specific details are so accurate in both buildings and feeling of DC. (Stupid rules and laws and, especially, the inhabitants.) I could look at that for hours just picking out the details and nuances. This is like Mad Magazine humor when it was at its best.
Glad TRex included the enlarged areas. Makes things easier on the eyes.
Glad TRex included the enlarged areas. Makes things easier on the eyes.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:59 PM (yTvNw)
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I have a bottle of raw opals I bought in Australia, one of them is a fossilized clam, with a band of opal in it.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 06:59 PM (K2fwt)
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I was thinking Polynike's paintings are better than many we see on the art thread.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)
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TRex is SUPREMELY kind for posting this artwork of mine. If I had the time, I'd do this kind of drawing all the time. Then again, DC is a huge joke in itself, as long as you can dodge the bulletry (OK, I made that word up) mostly in Southeast. Where, ironically, I used to work.
As for Wenda's comment above about jade: " Gump's Department Store in San Francisco began as a store for jade. Mr. Gump had incredible skill at choosing the very best. And he was blind. He could tell just from the touch." Joe Biden can choose the best kids. He could just tell from smell.
As for Wenda's comment above about jade: " Gump's Department Store in San Francisco began as a store for jade. Mr. Gump had incredible skill at choosing the very best. And he was blind. He could tell just from the touch." Joe Biden can choose the best kids. He could just tell from smell.
Posted by: Paul Nowak at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (YC7Ue)
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I was sitting out on our back patio (roofed) watching a light rain come through, but the cat (sitting next to me) got nervous after a couple of lighting bolts with one second between the flash and the boom (more like a real loud crack).
So just to make the cat happy, I came indoors.
So just to make the cat happy, I came indoors.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (Hlfhp)
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Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (viF8m)
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I got a Hunter 27-3. It's got 20 years on it but it looks like it left the factory yesterday. Roller furling on both the headsail and the mainsail, a 15-hp Yanmar diesel, nice suite of electronics. It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.
I'm over the moon with this girl.
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I got a Hunter 27-3. It's got 20 years on it but it looks like it left the factory yesterday. Roller furling on both the headsail and the mainsail, a 15-hp Yanmar diesel, nice suite of electronics. It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.
I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (BK31K)
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My office has several rock hounds, and they are on constant lookout for obsidian. This being Idaho, it's fairly plentiful, but you still gotta know what you're looking for.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (0aYVJ)
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Nah. Be boulder. Keep going.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Eaoic)
Seriously. You need to straighten up and pyrite, or you're gonna get it.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Eaoic)
Seriously. You need to straighten up and pyrite, or you're gonna get it.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM (h7ZuX)
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129 I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM
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Congrats!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM
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Congrats!
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM (Eaoic)
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Yeah that drawing by Paul is fanstastic.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:04 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:04 PM (viF8m)
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The Obsidian Order
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 07:04 PM (63Dwl)
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Started rockhounding 5-6 years ago, a major part of it looking for thundereggs (the state rock of Oregon). They are like a geode but are usually filled with agate, or sometimes jasper or common opal. Many are quite beautiful when cut and polished.
Oregon has Succor Creek state park created for rockhounding, made by land swaps with the Feds. It has T-eggs, Owyhee landscape jasper, and many other goodies. Finders keepers.
Oregon has Succor Creek state park created for rockhounding, made by land swaps with the Feds. It has T-eggs, Owyhee landscape jasper, and many other goodies. Finders keepers.
Posted by: Hal Dall at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (qGL+/)
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I do have a rock tumbler and some stones that were meant to be polished. Nothing valuable, of course. I've never used it for rocks. However, it is excellent for tumbling and polishing brass for reloading. Especially good for cleaning fired black powder cases which require cleaning after each use as the fouling can eat into the brass eventually.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (yTvNw)
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'southern end of the San Andreas fault look like'
To find out take scuba gear! The end is under water in the sea of Cortez.
To find out take scuba gear! The end is under water in the sea of Cortez.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (K2fwt)
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131 Seriously. You need to straighten up and pyrite, or you're gonna get it.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM
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Not my fault.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM
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Not my fault.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (Eaoic)
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Are there any Waldos in that DC drawing?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 12, 2025 07:06 PM (rF2iL)
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Geodes are usually a spectacular find for the casual collector.
In 5th grade, I had an awesome science teacher. At the end of our geology study segment, she took us on a field trip to collect fossils. She knew a bunch of rich locations, and everyone found a good number of fossils.
She then took us to her "secret" geode location. Several of us found some very nice geodes.
The next summer, I was at a Boy Scout camp about 20 miles away from her secret location, and noticed that the rocks exposed in the creek bank looked eerily similar to the rocks where we previously had collected geodes.
I started digging at the bank, and immediately began finding excellent geode candidates. I grabbed my day pack and proceeded to fill it up.
I went up to the main cabin and started washing the clay off of my finds, and then laid them out to dry. Several of the main scout leaders came out to observe this bizarre activity, and asked what I was doing. I told them I had found a bunch of geodes!
They were very skeptical, so I asked if there was a hammer in the lodge. They grabbed a hammer and I started cracking geodes. They were in awe at the beauty of some of my geodes.
end Part 1.)
In 5th grade, I had an awesome science teacher. At the end of our geology study segment, she took us on a field trip to collect fossils. She knew a bunch of rich locations, and everyone found a good number of fossils.
She then took us to her "secret" geode location. Several of us found some very nice geodes.
The next summer, I was at a Boy Scout camp about 20 miles away from her secret location, and noticed that the rocks exposed in the creek bank looked eerily similar to the rocks where we previously had collected geodes.
I started digging at the bank, and immediately began finding excellent geode candidates. I grabbed my day pack and proceeded to fill it up.
I went up to the main cabin and started washing the clay off of my finds, and then laid them out to dry. Several of the main scout leaders came out to observe this bizarre activity, and asked what I was doing. I told them I had found a bunch of geodes!
They were very skeptical, so I asked if there was a hammer in the lodge. They grabbed a hammer and I started cracking geodes. They were in awe at the beauty of some of my geodes.
end Part 1.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)
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Part 2.)
One of the old-timers said he had been coming to this camp for 25 years, and supervised at a least a thousand scouts. He asked why I was the only one that had EVER found a geode. My reply, “They weren’t looking for geodes!”
That is the point of this long story. If you aren’t actually looking FOR something right in front of your nose, you will never see it. If you ever did have some good finds in a particular “secret” spot, and you see a similar spot in the future, then look hard for your previous type of “treasures”. You might actually be in a better spot right there.
Examples of this would be if you are at a friend’s cabin and they have some rock outcrops on their property. There is a chance that zero rockhounds have ever scoured that rock face and rubble pile. That is where you have a chance to make some truly exquisite discoveries!
One of the old-timers said he had been coming to this camp for 25 years, and supervised at a least a thousand scouts. He asked why I was the only one that had EVER found a geode. My reply, “They weren’t looking for geodes!”
That is the point of this long story. If you aren’t actually looking FOR something right in front of your nose, you will never see it. If you ever did have some good finds in a particular “secret” spot, and you see a similar spot in the future, then look hard for your previous type of “treasures”. You might actually be in a better spot right there.
Examples of this would be if you are at a friend’s cabin and they have some rock outcrops on their property. There is a chance that zero rockhounds have ever scoured that rock face and rubble pile. That is where you have a chance to make some truly exquisite discoveries!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)
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138 'southern end of the San Andreas fault look like'
To find out take scuba gear! The end is under water in the sea of Cortez.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM
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Picky, picky. Correct though.
To find out take scuba gear! The end is under water in the sea of Cortez.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM
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Picky, picky. Correct though.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (Eaoic)
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It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.
I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero
Nice! congrats!!!
I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero
Nice! congrats!!!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (K2fwt)
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I was thinking Polynike's paintings are better than many we see on the art thread.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)
Thanks Skip though only probably just a few ( I'm looking at you Nekkid Man on an Ottoman).
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)
Thanks Skip though only probably just a few ( I'm looking at you Nekkid Man on an Ottoman).
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (VofaG)
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130 My office has several rock hounds, and they are on constant lookout for obsidian. This being Idaho, it's fairly plentiful, but you still gotta know what you're looking for.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (0aYVJ)
My grandfather had a small rock shop when I was small. Didn’t really make money but he loved it, and he’d polish things make jewelry cut geodes etc.
He would drive out to visit us in Phoenix, and he and my father knew of this volcanic cone out in the desert which at that time (late 60’s) was completely unattended, unregulated. They would go out in my dads old Rambler station wagon and come back with 300 to 400 pounds of hardened ash deposits which would be packed with “Apache Tears” - 1 to 2” diameter teardrop shaped nuggets of pure smoky obsidian. Used to have a lot of those sitting around dads house.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (0aYVJ)
My grandfather had a small rock shop when I was small. Didn’t really make money but he loved it, and he’d polish things make jewelry cut geodes etc.
He would drive out to visit us in Phoenix, and he and my father knew of this volcanic cone out in the desert which at that time (late 60’s) was completely unattended, unregulated. They would go out in my dads old Rambler station wagon and come back with 300 to 400 pounds of hardened ash deposits which would be packed with “Apache Tears” - 1 to 2” diameter teardrop shaped nuggets of pure smoky obsidian. Used to have a lot of those sitting around dads house.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (Hlfhp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (zZu0s)
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Great stuff PI. Thanks for sharing your stories.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (Eaoic)
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Cicero, nice. Perfect for a weekend trip to Catalina. Or better, San Clemente Is. Anchor off the cliffs on the southwest part of Pyramid Cove. Go spear or line-fish some kelp fish for dinner. Watch the sea lions cavorting around you. Enjoy your morning coffee watching the helos and fighters and special boat outfits doing their thing up in the cove.
Motor out at night, depending on conditions you've got a pretty good reach back to Dana Point.
Motor out at night, depending on conditions you've got a pretty good reach back to Dana Point.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:09 PM (1m82a)
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Thanks Skip though only probably just a few ( I'm looking at you Nekkid Man on an Ottoman).
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (VofaG)
Definitely better than the gay sailor/penguin one.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (VofaG)
Definitely better than the gay sailor/penguin one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM (zZu0s)
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One of my bucket list items is to find a diamond at the diamond park in Alabama.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM (K2fwt)
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During covid I home schooled a couple of the grandkids. I put together a geology block for science. Just a walk through the neighborhood yielded a fascinating collection of different stones. We had fun.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (W/lyH)
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Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:09 PM (1m82a)
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I have a lot of plans. I'm just working to get my sea legs in the new vessel now.
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I have a lot of plans. I'm just working to get my sea legs in the new vessel now.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (BK31K)
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Polynikes some of CBD's picks are hardly more than paint by numbers
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (+qU29)
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I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (BK31K)
You have any long trips planned? I can't remember which ocean you're on.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (BK31K)
You have any long trips planned? I can't remember which ocean you're on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)
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Polynikes some of CBD's picks are hardly more than paint by numbers
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (+qU29)
Especially that Caravaggio guy. I don't think he's ever going anywhere.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (+qU29)
Especially that Caravaggio guy. I don't think he's ever going anywhere.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (zZu0s)
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151 One of my bucket list items is to find a diamond at the diamond park in Alabama.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM
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Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM
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Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (Eaoic)
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One of my bucket list items is to find a diamond at the diamond park in Alabama.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM
You mean Arkansas?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM
You mean Arkansas?
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:13 PM (VofaG)
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107 My wife’s best friend had a father who was a geologist. They would take long car trips through the west, and she said the worst part was always when they would crest some ridge and then her dad would stop the car, get out and give them all a 30 minute lecture on what an Anticline was and why they could see one right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM
My wife definitely can feel her pain!
Later in life, I would only stop the car when I could also show the kids some pronghorns on the hillside that formed the anticline, and then pick a handful of beautiful wildflowers for the three girls (and mom).
I am a Renaissance Dork!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM
My wife definitely can feel her pain!
Later in life, I would only stop the car when I could also show the kids some pronghorns on the hillside that formed the anticline, and then pick a handful of beautiful wildflowers for the three girls (and mom).
I am a Renaissance Dork!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:14 PM (HlyYF)
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Sort of rock-related. In Brazil a major state in the center/north is called Minas Gerais (yes, "general mines"). The area is an extraordinary geologic phenomenon, in general (I think this is the area that has such a huge concentration of iron near the surface that it affects the planet's magnetic field?). Of course gold and silver rushes put it on the map in colonial days.
Anyway was there many moons ago. Place is famous for incredibly cheap, and well-cut, semi-precious stones. Aquamarine, tourmalines of many colors, amethyst. Didn't have much time to go out to the smaller towns to bargain hunt (they said you could pick semi-precious stones out of your tires in one place with dirt roads).
So with the Brazilian gf went into a shop in Belo Horizonte, the capital, and with a credit card paid for a bunch of amethysts and tourmalines. They had big glass bowls full of these cut stones. When I got back, went to a place in Georgetown that did geodes/minerals/etc and they offered to pay 3X what I had paid. Gave them all to family and a gf to set into jewelry, beautiful stuff.
Anyway was there many moons ago. Place is famous for incredibly cheap, and well-cut, semi-precious stones. Aquamarine, tourmalines of many colors, amethyst. Didn't have much time to go out to the smaller towns to bargain hunt (they said you could pick semi-precious stones out of your tires in one place with dirt roads).
So with the Brazilian gf went into a shop in Belo Horizonte, the capital, and with a credit card paid for a bunch of amethysts and tourmalines. They had big glass bowls full of these cut stones. When I got back, went to a place in Georgetown that did geodes/minerals/etc and they offered to pay 3X what I had paid. Gave them all to family and a gf to set into jewelry, beautiful stuff.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (1m82a)
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Pillage Idiot, don't know if you saw, but I didn't get the email. Try again? I can't find my picture of that rock, but I'll find the rock and take another. And I have some other cool stuff I found in Wyoming that you might be able to id for me.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (h7ZuX)
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I have a rock collection. And an arrowhead collection. They kind of overlap.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (vFG9F)
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Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)
I’ve taken my grandson to a local rock show, and there was a man there with a pile of unopened geodes, and for $10 (more if it was really big) you could buy one and he’d split it for you. Now he was good, and I know from him ( and I know that you know too) that you don’t just whack it with a hammer to get a clean split. (He had this pressure device that would crack them like a big walnut)
I’ve taken my grandson to a local rock show, and there was a man there with a pile of unopened geodes, and for $10 (more if it was really big) you could buy one and he’d split it for you. Now he was good, and I know from him ( and I know that you know too) that you don’t just whack it with a hammer to get a clean split. (He had this pressure device that would crack them like a big walnut)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (Hlfhp)
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Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (1m82a)
Did you have to declare to customs when you returned home?
Did you have to declare to customs when you returned home?
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (VofaG)
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I have this weird rock that looks like a chocolate frosted brownie that I've never been able to identify.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
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Men. Hard up for a b-day idea? Get that bitch a crystal. Bitches love crystals.
Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (lPvx2)
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Geodes are the most amazing things. I have a couple on my hutch, cracked open to reveal the pretty crystals.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (dyL4B)
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Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. Every once in a while someone poking around there comes up with rock worth millions.
Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Correction, i would have been in the wrong State
Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Correction, i would have been in the wrong State
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (K2fwt)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (K2fwt)
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have this weird rock that looks like a chocolate frosted brownie that I've never been able to identify.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
Might be dinosaur poop.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
Might be dinosaur poop.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (VofaG)
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166 Men. Hard up for a b-day idea? Get that bitch a crystal. Bitches love crystals.
Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (lPvx2)
LOL
Works for me! A chunk of turquoise is even better, though.
Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (lPvx2)
LOL
Works for me! A chunk of turquoise is even better, though.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (h7ZuX)
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You have any long trips planned? I can't remember which ocean you're on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)
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Pacific, last time I checked.
Catalina Island is kind of the standard overnighter around here but when I retire I may make a run for the Drake Passage.
You know, following in Shackleton's wake and all.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)
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Pacific, last time I checked.
Catalina Island is kind of the standard overnighter around here but when I retire I may make a run for the Drake Passage.
You know, following in Shackleton's wake and all.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:20 PM (BK31K)
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (vFG9F)
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>>Sort of rock-related. In Brazil a major state in the center/north is called Minas Gerais (yes, "general mines")
In Chile, Lapis Lazuli is big. And cheap. Somewhere I've got Easter Island head made of Lapis that I picked up cheap in Chile.
In Chile, Lapis Lazuli is big. And cheap. Somewhere I've got Easter Island head made of Lapis that I picked up cheap in Chile.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (viF8m)
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Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).
Posted by: TRex
It's real. I have a suspicion that DeBeers bribed someone to make it a park.
Posted by: TRex
It's real. I have a suspicion that DeBeers bribed someone to make it a park.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:22 PM (K2fwt)
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Hmm, was just checking the San Clemente Island website. I always like it because it was the only one I've ever seen that gives notices about closed areas on particular days to inlcude *below* the surface, down to the ocean floor. In case you were thinking of diving down hundreds of feet I guess. Lots of interesting stuff goes on there, most of it "black".
Typically they would try to keep the south end (Pyramid Cove area) open in summer, especially weekends, since it is a great recreational boating destination. Looks like some weekends this summer are busy.
scisland.org
Typically they would try to keep the south end (Pyramid Cove area) open in summer, especially weekends, since it is a great recreational boating destination. Looks like some weekends this summer are busy.
scisland.org
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:23 PM (1m82a)
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Time to say thank you and good night before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks to Paul and polynikes for the submissions. Thanks to all for reading and commenting. You rock. Different theme next week, so come back and see what mischief we can find.
Enjoy the movie thread when it emerges and see y'all later on Club ONT!
Enjoy the movie thread when it emerges and see y'all later on Club ONT!
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:23 PM (Eaoic)
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I always loved Turquoise, a beautiful stone! There’s a lot of it in Arizona, because it’s associated with Copper deposits.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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I may make a run for the Drake Passage.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:20 PM (BK31K)
Ya got a death wish or something? You and Jackstraw . I pucker up just thinking about being on a boat in those rough seas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:20 PM (BK31K)
Ya got a death wish or something? You and Jackstraw . I pucker up just thinking about being on a boat in those rough seas.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:24 PM (VofaG)
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My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
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When my wife was younger, her parents took her to Crater of Diamonds park a couple times because it’s not that far from Shreveport. (A couple hours). She’s still mad that all she ever found was fire ants.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:26 PM (Hlfhp)
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180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
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Pfft.
Piker.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
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Pfft.
Piker.
Posted by: The Solutreans at July 12, 2025 07:26 PM (BK31K)
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So the topic is mining. Just kidding, sort of.
Rock hounds need to visit Middlegate NV. You can do it youself or just buy what you want in their shop. Huge selection.
Mrs R collects and we do it once every couple of years.
Long boring drive through Fallon Naval Air Station to ge there. Well between ranges.
Rock hounds need to visit Middlegate NV. You can do it youself or just buy what you want in their shop. Huge selection.
Mrs R collects and we do it once every couple of years.
Long boring drive through Fallon Naval Air Station to ge there. Well between ranges.
Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:26 PM (lPvx2)
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polynikes, good question, and I think yes - might have even paid a small duty (it's based on declared $ spent on it). And that could be a thing. Of course with prices like that, people would bring back 30 lbs. of semi-precious stones they could sell for 5X up here, so customs was interested in it.
One of the best things I've ever acquired overseas, the jewelry with these things is still beautiful and of course timeless.
One of the best things I've ever acquired overseas, the jewelry with these things is still beautiful and of course timeless.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (1m82a)
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Might be dinosaur poop.
Posted by: polynikes"
It looks to be igneous. It's heavy and dense.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (vFG9F)
Now you reminded me I really want to find a meteorite. They go for big bucks but I'd probably keep it. I'm an interstellar info nut.
Posted by: polynikes"
It looks to be igneous. It's heavy and dense.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (vFG9F)
Now you reminded me I really want to find a meteorite. They go for big bucks but I'd probably keep it. I'm an interstellar info nut.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (VofaG)
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Thanks Trex!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (K2fwt)
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When my grandparents lived in Indiana they had a cabin at a lake and the yard had white geodes all over the place, weathering out of the ground. Over time they had lined the walkway out front with unbroken ones, spherical and looking somewhat like little volleyballs up to about 12" across. We busted a few open and I've still got a smaller unbroken one.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (vFG9F)
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Collecting geodes:
Geodes are almost always "nodular" in form. That is your starting point.
However, a good candidate (prior to opening) will actually feel too light!
A geode will always feel lighter than a chunk of "host" rock of the same size. The void space for the crystals makes that big of a difference. From just the heft of a nodule, you can determine if it is a good candidate.
In the area where I have collected the most geodes, the very lightest ones are actually bad specimens. They are usually just a hollow nodule with a thin coating of tiny, unimpressive crystals.
You can "open" geodes with a common hammer. However, for safety reasons a rock hammer is better, and you MUST wear eye protection. High velocity shards are very common.
If you do find a good cache of geodes, and they are being damaged by the hammer technique, then go buy a cheap "wet tile saw" with a diamond blade at your bigbox hardware store. They will squirt water on the blade and you can slowly cut your geodes in half, or even "section" them if the infilled crystals are very strongly formed.
Geodes are almost always "nodular" in form. That is your starting point.
However, a good candidate (prior to opening) will actually feel too light!
A geode will always feel lighter than a chunk of "host" rock of the same size. The void space for the crystals makes that big of a difference. From just the heft of a nodule, you can determine if it is a good candidate.
In the area where I have collected the most geodes, the very lightest ones are actually bad specimens. They are usually just a hollow nodule with a thin coating of tiny, unimpressive crystals.
You can "open" geodes with a common hammer. However, for safety reasons a rock hammer is better, and you MUST wear eye protection. High velocity shards are very common.
If you do find a good cache of geodes, and they are being damaged by the hammer technique, then go buy a cheap "wet tile saw" with a diamond blade at your bigbox hardware store. They will squirt water on the blade and you can slowly cut your geodes in half, or even "section" them if the infilled crystals are very strongly formed.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (HlyYF)
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>>Ya got a death wish or something? You and Jackstraw . I pucker up just thinking about being on a boat in those rough seas.
A friend of mine has gone around the Horn twice on sailboats. He described it as standing on the hood of your car in the middle of a driving rain storm while hitting gigantic potholes constantly.
A friend of mine has gone around the Horn twice on sailboats. He described it as standing on the hood of your car in the middle of a driving rain storm while hitting gigantic potholes constantly.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:28 PM (viF8m)
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80 I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)
Hm...not seeing it
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM
Is the email in your nic still active?
If so, I will try again.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)
Hm...not seeing it
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM
Is the email in your nic still active?
If so, I will try again.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (HlyYF)
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If you're close to Fallon, NV, continue south a bit to Hawthorne, and check out the ordnance museum. Very interesting. An enormous ordnance depot was established there and was a principal way-point for all the stuff coming west for the Pacific in WWII..
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (1m82a)
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A friend of mine has gone around the Horn twice on sailboats. He described it as standing on the hood of your car in the middle of a driving rain storm while hitting gigantic potholes constantly.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:28 PM (viF8m)
At least they would be able to find me if I fell off into one of those potholes. You white boyz be crazy is what my friend would say,
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:28 PM (viF8m)
At least they would be able to find me if I fell off into one of those potholes. You white boyz be crazy is what my friend would say,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:30 PM (VofaG)
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Once on a highway from Hampton to Williamsburg then beyond in middle of the night saw a meteor flash in front of me and sworn I was going to crash into a crater.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)
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I have always been interested in rocks and minerals and fossils. I brought a big box of interesting rocks with me from Arizona when I moved back east. One of them looks like it's shot through with silver but I can't really profit from it since....ummmm...it may have been something I found in an arroyo in a county park. Maybe.
When I lived in Fairfax, Va, there were several very large pieces of quartz on the property, and one of them yielded a bottle-cap full of golden flakes (after I hammered on it for a couple of hours). Could be gold. I dropped the flakes in a glass of water and they immediately shot to the bottom of the glass.
I also have a trilobite fossil somewhere.
When I lived in Fairfax, Va, there were several very large pieces of quartz on the property, and one of them yielded a bottle-cap full of golden flakes (after I hammered on it for a couple of hours). Could be gold. I dropped the flakes in a glass of water and they immediately shot to the bottom of the glass.
I also have a trilobite fossil somewhere.
Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (mADJX)
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"You can "open" geodes with a common hammer. However, for safety reasons a rock hammer is better, and you MUST wear eye protection. High velocity shards are very common."
You can also bang two together if you are young and foolish and don't have a hammer.
You can also bang two together if you are young and foolish and don't have a hammer.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (vFG9F)
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180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
That's pretty awesome, though. I've never found any of these.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
That's pretty awesome, though. I've never found any of these.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (h7ZuX)
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Rocks are pretty cool. When I drive cross-country, I love driving past where they've dynamited mountains to put interstates, where you can see the layers and how they deformed. I even have a book on the geologic processes of the Grand Canyon in my library (next to "Deaths in the Grand Canyon")...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (ynpvh)
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Moviegique has a nood
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (+qU29)
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Took wife to Mackinac Island last year.
Since then she found out bout "yooperlite" and is upset that I didn't get her some.
Since then she found out bout "yooperlite" and is upset that I didn't get her some.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (/lPRQ)
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Around the Horn? Wow. That would be intense.
Worst I've done was the convergence zone off Cabo. But in a catamaran, it's pretty rough and challenging. We actually turned around the first night and tried again the next day.
And then there was the time, with a chartered 35-footer out of South River just below Annapolis, on a brutal humid mostly calm August day, a huge thunderstorm came in from the northwest (as always). The hot boring day suddenly got interesting. I was the only one on the boat who was a sailor, some of the girls got excited. I don't recall how today's senior senator from MD handled it, sure he was OK. Anyway timing is everything, we pulled up to the dock just as things got really sporty - pulled down the jib, then reefed the main, on the mad dash in, as the winds grew.
Worst I've done was the convergence zone off Cabo. But in a catamaran, it's pretty rough and challenging. We actually turned around the first night and tried again the next day.
And then there was the time, with a chartered 35-footer out of South River just below Annapolis, on a brutal humid mostly calm August day, a huge thunderstorm came in from the northwest (as always). The hot boring day suddenly got interesting. I was the only one on the boat who was a sailor, some of the girls got excited. I don't recall how today's senior senator from MD handled it, sure he was OK. Anyway timing is everything, we pulled up to the dock just as things got really sporty - pulled down the jib, then reefed the main, on the mad dash in, as the winds grew.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)
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196 180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
That's pretty awesome, though. I've never found any of these.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (h7ZuX)
My Dad had some radioactive rocks that went with his Geiger counter...I used to play with them when I was a kid...might explain a few things.
I loved the fused sand from the Trinity blast.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)
That's pretty awesome, though. I've never found any of these.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (h7ZuX)
My Dad had some radioactive rocks that went with his Geiger counter...I used to play with them when I was a kid...might explain a few things.
I loved the fused sand from the Trinity blast.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (ynpvh)
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180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
I have a cousin who has ben extremely lucky at finding arrowheads and spear points, and he even taught himself how to make them.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
I have a cousin who has ben extremely lucky at finding arrowheads and spear points, and he even taught himself how to make them.
Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2025 07:34 PM (mADJX)
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Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)
That is frightening cool. Did you stop or realize after that it happened farther away than you thought?
That is frightening cool. Did you stop or realize after that it happened farther away than you thought?
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:34 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (4JxUz)
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Is the email in your nic still active?
If so, I will try again.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (HlyYF)
Yes, I sent myself an email from another address to make sure.
If so, I will try again.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (HlyYF)
Yes, I sent myself an email from another address to make sure.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (h7ZuX)
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Whoa Charlie Kirk Turning Point student rally speaker line up is serious! Russell Brand who has surprisingly fresh Christian perrspective then Tom Homan who called out punks and haters then Tulsi Gabbard besides having a great ass Tulsi conveyed what it truly means to be American. Wow second look at Tulsi
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:36 PM (uEWUd)
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137 I do have a rock tumbler and some stones that were meant to be polished. Nothing valuable, of course. I've never used it for rocks. However, it is excellent for tumbling and polishing brass for reloading. Especially good for cleaning fired black powder cases which require cleaning after each use as the fouling can eat into the brass eventually.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM
I was also going to do a post on rock tumblers.
If you are a grandparent, I think they might be a good gift (obviously depending on the personality of the kid).
And, as JTB says, you can also polish your brass.
Usually the tumblers come with at least one load of rocks to be tumbled. The good thing is that you will be teaching the grandkids the value of "patience". It takes a while to do the rocks, but they can see the slight improvement of each step as you change grits. Of course, the most dramatic improvement is the polishing grit at the very end. Many girls will like the beauty of the rocks, many boys will think the process and results were cool.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM
I was also going to do a post on rock tumblers.
If you are a grandparent, I think they might be a good gift (obviously depending on the personality of the kid).
And, as JTB says, you can also polish your brass.
Usually the tumblers come with at least one load of rocks to be tumbled. The good thing is that you will be teaching the grandkids the value of "patience". It takes a while to do the rocks, but they can see the slight improvement of each step as you change grits. Of course, the most dramatic improvement is the polishing grit at the very end. Many girls will like the beauty of the rocks, many boys will think the process and results were cool.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:36 PM (HlyYF)
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Dad and I would go camping here in WNC and I could always find amethyst in the creek beds.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:39 PM (Hw6WF)
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Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:36 PM (uEWUd)
I always liked her a took her liberal positions as just part of her being a woman ( swayed by the innate empathy women have) . I think she found out that her empathy better served by a conservative perspective.
I always liked her a took her liberal positions as just part of her being a woman ( swayed by the innate empathy women have) . I think she found out that her empathy better served by a conservative perspective.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:39 PM (VofaG)
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All Star line up on Charlie Kiks TP USA. Kristie Noem is speaking this broad is slammin..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:41 PM (uEWUd)
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I got a Hunter 27-3. It's got 20 years on it but it looks like it left the factory yesterday. Roller furling on both the headsail and the mainsail, a 15-hp Yanmar diesel, nice suite of electronics. It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.
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I'm filled with envy of you folk that have boats, especially a craft as yours.
FWIW, I have a large framed print of this, over the mantle in the den: https://winslowhomer.org/breezing-up.jsp
Note that the old guy has turned the tiller over to one of the kids, but, he maintains control of the main sheet.
Rolled up in a corner of the den is a chart: 'Cape Hatteras, Wimble Shoals to Ocracoke Inlet'. Also, the requsite barometer, humidity, and temperature instruments on the wall. Passive instruments, no batteries.
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I'm filled with envy of you folk that have boats, especially a craft as yours.
FWIW, I have a large framed print of this, over the mantle in the den: https://winslowhomer.org/breezing-up.jsp
Note that the old guy has turned the tiller over to one of the kids, but, he maintains control of the main sheet.
Rolled up in a corner of the den is a chart: 'Cape Hatteras, Wimble Shoals to Ocracoke Inlet'. Also, the requsite barometer, humidity, and temperature instruments on the wall. Passive instruments, no batteries.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 07:42 PM (XeU6L)
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Evening Hobby Thread folks. Will hang out here until ONT-time. Not a movie fan.
Finally got the input drum for my Suburban transmission assembled. Found all the wrong ways to do it before finding the right way (hopefully).
Finally got the input drum for my Suburban transmission assembled. Found all the wrong ways to do it before finding the right way (hopefully).
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (m6YJY)
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Dad and I would go camping here in WNC and I could always find amethyst in the creek beds.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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A. How are you? Not sure that we have 'spoken' since The Storm. How did you make out?
B. I have an example of native amethyst on my desk.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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A. How are you? Not sure that we have 'spoken' since The Storm. How did you make out?
B. I have an example of native amethyst on my desk.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (XeU6L)
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I'm all in. These girls are awesome.
Kristie is just wow....nice btw Tom Homam went all old school and cursed like it was 1944.. Tom got big cheers from the college crowd..
I'm all in. These girls are awesome.
Kristie is just wow....nice btw Tom Homam went all old school and cursed like it was 1944.. Tom got big cheers from the college crowd..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (uEWUd)
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>>FWIW, I have a large framed print of this, over the mantle in the den: https://winslowhomer.org/breezing-up.jsp
I posted that on CBD's art thread on Friday. One of my favorites.
I posted that on CBD's art thread on Friday. One of my favorites.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:48 PM (viF8m)
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Not fond of the movies, either. Out until books in the a.m., prolly.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:51 PM (h7ZuX)
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I posted that on CBD's art thread on Friday. One of my favorites.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Ah! And I missed it...
I posted that on CBD's art thread on Friday. One of my favorites.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Ah! And I missed it...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (XeU6L)
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The thing is, there was a place that we went to in Colorado or Wyoming that had a field of black rocks and sand and the rocks were full of these spiral cone shaped fossils. I've always wondered where that was.
My father would cut the rocks into pieces and shape and polish them to make jewelry with.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (VmDLh)
There is a marine snail called Turretella which has a spiral cone shell. There are also some forams with that pattern, IIRC.
My father would cut the rocks into pieces and shape and polish them to make jewelry with.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (VmDLh)
There is a marine snail called Turretella which has a spiral cone shell. There are also some forams with that pattern, IIRC.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 07:59 PM (66G1t)
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A. How are you? Not sure that we have 'spoken' since The Storm. How did you make out?
B. I have an example of native amethyst on my desk.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Sick of chemo. Still got 2 more treatments to go. White and red blood cell counts both below normal.
Trying to sell my rental house in Waynesville, if you happen to know of anyone looking for a 5 bedroom 2000 sq ft house outside city limits.
B. I have an example of native amethyst on my desk.
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Sick of chemo. Still got 2 more treatments to go. White and red blood cell counts both below normal.
Trying to sell my rental house in Waynesville, if you happen to know of anyone looking for a 5 bedroom 2000 sq ft house outside city limits.
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Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (Eaoic)
My understanding that it is a real genuine diamond-bearing kimberlite pipe, but not rich enough to support a commercial diamond mine.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (Eaoic)
My understanding that it is a real genuine diamond-bearing kimberlite pipe, but not rich enough to support a commercial diamond mine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (66G1t)
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Sick of chemo. Still got 2 more treatments to go. White and red blood cell counts both below normal.
Trying to sell my rental house in Waynesville, if you happen to know of anyone looking for a 5 bedroom 2000 sq ft house outside city limits.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Yeah, chemo can be brutal, exhusting. I'll send up prayers, and my thoughts are with you. Hang tough. If you still have my email, let me know if there's anything I can help with.
Not sure what the housing market is doing around here post-Storm. I see the value of mine probably dropping on account of neglect.
Trying to sell my rental house in Waynesville, if you happen to know of anyone looking for a 5 bedroom 2000 sq ft house outside city limits.
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Yeah, chemo can be brutal, exhusting. I'll send up prayers, and my thoughts are with you. Hang tough. If you still have my email, let me know if there's anything I can help with.
Not sure what the housing market is doing around here post-Storm. I see the value of mine probably dropping on account of neglect.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (XeU6L)
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Intertubes tells me there are now 7 courses at Bandon Golf Resort,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)
*starts planning trip to Bandon*
Posted by: Diogenes
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Dang, been too long since playing there. Three courses my last visit.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)
*starts planning trip to Bandon*
Posted by: Diogenes
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Dang, been too long since playing there. Three courses my last visit.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LVaYG)
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I’ve taken my grandson to a local rock show, and there was a man there with a pile of unopened geodes, and for $10 (more if it was really big) you could buy one and he’d split it for you. Now he was good, and I know from him ( and I know that you know too) that you don’t just whack it with a hammer to get a clean split. (He had this pressure device that would crack them like a big walnut)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (Hlfhp)
We used to have an active rock club here in town and took trips all over. Mrs. E was the dedicated rockhound, and I was the dedicated burro.
I’ve taken my grandson to a local rock show, and there was a man there with a pile of unopened geodes, and for $10 (more if it was really big) you could buy one and he’d split it for you. Now he was good, and I know from him ( and I know that you know too) that you don’t just whack it with a hammer to get a clean split. (He had this pressure device that would crack them like a big walnut)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (Hlfhp)
We used to have an active rock club here in town and took trips all over. Mrs. E was the dedicated rockhound, and I was the dedicated burro.
Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (LHPAg)
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Rocks.
I like to keep rocks from places I visited. I guy a few as well. Got a trilobite - the specific species lived between 416m and 333m years ago.
I especially like my Banded Iron Formation rock from Wyoming. 2.5 to 2.1 Billion years ago. Banded Iron is special because it shows the process of The Great Oxygenation Event. There are about 20 bands visible in this rock. Each one shows blue-green algae pumping out oxygen until it poisoned them or plain iron that accumulated when the oxygen wasn't being pumped out.
EVENTUALLY, blue-green algae evolved that weren't poisoned by their own oxygen and almost all the iron in the ocean oxidized and fell to the bottom. No more bands after that.
I like to keep rocks from places I visited. I guy a few as well. Got a trilobite - the specific species lived between 416m and 333m years ago.
I especially like my Banded Iron Formation rock from Wyoming. 2.5 to 2.1 Billion years ago. Banded Iron is special because it shows the process of The Great Oxygenation Event. There are about 20 bands visible in this rock. Each one shows blue-green algae pumping out oxygen until it poisoned them or plain iron that accumulated when the oxygen wasn't being pumped out.
EVENTUALLY, blue-green algae evolved that weren't poisoned by their own oxygen and almost all the iron in the ocean oxidized and fell to the bottom. No more bands after that.
Posted by: comradearthur at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (lJ0uc)
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I pick up pretty rocks once in a while, put them in my potted plants and around the flower garden.
River rocks are cool. I like how they're so smooth from being tumbled around. There's a big one by my front door, that I use as a stop for the screendoor while unloading groceries.
River rocks are cool. I like how they're so smooth from being tumbled around. There's a big one by my front door, that I use as a stop for the screendoor while unloading groceries.
Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (rdVOm)
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Thanks for another good Hobby Thread, TRex.
I was going to type more advice to amateur rockhounds but got called to dinner by the Boss!
I was going to type more advice to amateur rockhounds but got called to dinner by the Boss!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 10:56 PM (HlyYF)
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Wow, MANY thanks to those awesome Lurkers and Morons saying nice things about the art. Yeah, I live in the DC area (spits), so there's a lot of good old fashioned vitriol mixed in with sarcasm. The old Mad magazines used to have awesome and intricate artwork, especially in the first years. That's the kind of work I love doing best. Anyone have questions about the art (either legit questions or request for prints), post here or you can email me directly at oconus dot paulie at gmail dot com. Appreciate the kind words!
Posted by: Paul Nowak at July 13, 2025 05:13 PM (YC7Ue)
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Professional geologist here. Multiple degrees and 50+ years doing geology. Rock hammer and hand lens will travel. Every rock tells a story so get after it.
Posted by: rocdoctom at July 13, 2025 10:43 PM (kqPa8)
Ace of Spades Pet Thread July 12
Courtesy Misanthropic Humanitarian
Hi Katy,
Hope you're feeling great. Just found this.
Regards from Jerusalem, Biden's Dog
Dogs that may keep you out of social situations altogether! We confine our smaller dog when we open the door to strangers to keep them from trying to snuggle him (he was traumatized as a pup). The larger dog goes to the door with us (usually). Do you have a dog with whom you take any precautions around people?Delivery men vs dogs 🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/ORfbl2JHP7
— non aesthetic things (@PicturesFoIder) May 6, 2025
Bro sees older dog done with his walk, lends owner a wagon to help get the dog home pic.twitter.com/yYadfkCv96
— B&S (@_B___S) July 11, 2025
I've emailed the thread before about Lily (Sheltie) and Pinky (Silky Terrier). I'm sad to report that Miss Pinky passed on 4/30 and my life hasn't been the same since. She was my adventure buddy, car ride buddy, and morning walk buddy...she was a month shy of 18 years old. My life was better with that tiny little dog in it, and her absence is felt. I miss her terribly - without her to tell me what to do all day, I've been a little lost. Lily, as sweet as she is, didn't seem to care much that Pinks is gone, but she seems glad to get ALL of the hamburger I cook instead of just half. Attached is a picture of Pinks on my bean bag footstool she took over, taken a day before she lied down and wouldn't get back up. Thanks for letting me share a bit of Pinks, she is irreplaceable, the most special of special tiny dogs. My heart is broken. Lurker - Jerake75So sorry that you have lost Pinky. What a sweetheart. Glad you still have Lily.
Good afternoon Pet Morons. Hope all finds you well.Hope things go well for Chick A.
Since my post last week, the chicks are continuing to grow. Chicks C & D have more than doubled their weight and at the weekly weigh in came in at 9 and 8 grams respectively. Chick A & B's eyes have opened, a picture of Chick B attached. Last week I mentioned what we call the red, yellow and green zones of hatchling development. This is a reflection of the mortality threat for these tiny creatures. See below: Red Zone Day 0 to Day 2
Yellow Zone Day 3 to day 10
Green Zone Day 11 forward If you can get them to the Green zone, chances are that they will continue to grow and develop, but there are no guarantees. Unfortunately there are clouds on the horizon for Chick A. He appears to be developing Splay Legs. That is when the chick can't get its feet under him and they just 'splay' out in front of them. There is a picture attached and it's pretty clear what the problem is when compared to the other image of Chick B. The good news is that there is a treatment protocol for this condition. I'm posting this on Wednesday, 7/9 and have an appointment with our avian vet on Friday. I'll fill you in next week on how that went. Regards,
David
Good afternoon Pet Morons. Hope all finds you well.
Since my post last week, the chicks are continuing to grow. Chicks C & D have more than doubled their weight and at the weekly weigh in came in at 9 and 8 grams respectively. Chick A & B's eyes have opened, a picture of Chick B attached. Jill, the sedate lady on the left, and I recently welcomed Jax, our black Lab (All Labs Matter!) rescue. She’s been seen on the Pet Thread before, most recently as she was preparing for hunting season by watching an Outdoor TV video on pheasants. He’s the new addition. Has been added to our pack with only an occasional snarl. Jill: “Hello … no, I don’t come here often. No, I don’t care what your sign is. No I don’t want to dance. Yes, I have noticed that you have a penis … snarl.” Our problem has been “fixed,” so to speak and he’s much more pleasant company for my bucket-list Lab, Jill. My girl has had, since birth, about four or five white hairs on her muzzle. I know it’s stupid, but I want to take a magic marker and black them out so she won’t get older. Onward, clc
Feral Cuties: A feral cat and her three kittens (two tuxedos and a grey tabby) have taken up residence beneath my back porch and often join me in lolling in the sun. And yes, I know my porch desperately needs sanding and repainting. Soon! ErisI can see why you like having them around.
Thank you for sharing your pets with us.
If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:Until next Saturday, have a great week!petmorons at protonmail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 5 I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.
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Happy Caturday everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM (+qU29)
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Best of cluck
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 12, 2025 03:25 PM (x1HcI)
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Meow
Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 03:27 PM (uGaBv)
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Great videos, K.T.! That one with the delivery guys shows why they need to be young and agile.
Some of the dogs just wanted to play. Right?
Some of the dogs just wanted to play. Right?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 03:31 PM (kpS4V)
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Mr Senegal aka Dinosaur Face says High!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 03:33 PM (1oN8o)
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Critters!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 12, 2025 03:35 PM (2UnvF)
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My surprise present barely weaned lorikeet would sit on his butt with his feet in front. He grew out of that.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 03:36 PM (1oN8o)
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Hello Friends,
I have been trying to find a way to make sure the stray cat who lives at the disused car wash continues to be fed while I am on vacation in September. Think I have a couple of people at the YMCA tentatively on board. If I can get one more, that will take care of that.
The other issue is Keiko, the gorgeous longhair calico who has been dropping by in the evenings and allowing me to feed her so long as I don't get too close. I think I can ask our cat sitter to put out dry food for her when she drops by. It's only every other day, but it should be enough.
I have been trying to find a way to make sure the stray cat who lives at the disused car wash continues to be fed while I am on vacation in September. Think I have a couple of people at the YMCA tentatively on board. If I can get one more, that will take care of that.
The other issue is Keiko, the gorgeous longhair calico who has been dropping by in the evenings and allowing me to feed her so long as I don't get too close. I think I can ask our cat sitter to put out dry food for her when she drops by. It's only every other day, but it should be enough.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 03:36 PM (DIweC)
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Woof!!! Great pet thread as always. The sad and uplifting stories above remind me how wonderful a gift our pet buddies are. Gracias K.T.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 12, 2025 03:37 PM (NGwH/)
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The top cartoon is spot on. And since we have five critters in the house, at least one of them is in need of some sort of attention at any given time. 7:00 PM? Oops, gotta put the parrot to bed. 8:00 PM? Oops, dog is overdue for his meds.
Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 03:39 PM (o2Win)
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Every day when I leave work, I use the excuse that I have to feed my kitties. Of course, I could feed them later, but they have gotten used to their normal feeding time between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (IBQGV)
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We lost Precious the bichon last Monday. We knew she might have a brain tumor but she wasn't in pain and we worked around her fading mobility. That morning she had four serious seizures in less than 90 minutes. The emergency vet confirmed our fears and we made the decision before she could suffer more.
Precious was already older than the usual bichon life expectancy when we adopted her two years ago, so every day with her was a gift. We really miss that little ragamuffin.
Precious was already older than the usual bichon life expectancy when we adopted her two years ago, so every day with her was a gift. We really miss that little ragamuffin.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (yTvNw)
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Yes, I could never be a delivery driver because I'm not young and spry like those delivery folks and could not jump over a gate. Some of the videos were funny, though
Thanks for the update on the chicks, David
I am glad that the two labs are now getting along.
I am sorry about Pinky, Jerald. What a beautiful terrier.
Thanks for the update on the chicks, David
I am glad that the two labs are now getting along.
I am sorry about Pinky, Jerald. What a beautiful terrier.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 03:46 PM (2GCMq)
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JTB: Sorry to read about Precious crossing the rainbow bridge. You and the Mrs. shared 2 good years with her and her with you and, no doubt, left you with great memories. Peace.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 12, 2025 03:49 PM (NGwH/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 03:49 PM (2GCMq)
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i read electric meters for nine years, had to enter the backyards. the postman has it easy.
running is only a good choice if you get out.
running is only a good choice if you get out.
Posted by: cmeat at July 12, 2025 03:50 PM (GAyiy)
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I'm very sorry about Pinky.
I had to watch my little buddy boy Jack lay down in the yard.
I know the feeling. We only have them for a little while.
I had to watch my little buddy boy Jack lay down in the yard.
I know the feeling. We only have them for a little while.
Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 03:51 PM (fV+MH)
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Katy the giant Kane Corso nearly knocked me over leaning against my leg at the dog park today. Sweet big dog.
Alternatively a yappy (looked like an Australian shepherd) puppy wanted to play with Reef and he was not kosher with it.
Alternatively a yappy (looked like an Australian shepherd) puppy wanted to play with Reef and he was not kosher with it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 03:51 PM (zZu0s)
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Found a feral photo from Eris!
Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 03:53 PM (xekrU)
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Neighbors blue heeler puppy still in yapping stage. Wonder if he's even trying to housebreak her. I won't let her in. Last time she got belly skritches (outside) she peed for joy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 03:55 PM (QGUa0)
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My miniature dachshund has gotten very protective of me. He used to be Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky when we visited the vet. Now it's all teeth and growls. I have to disappear so the vet can examine him. They put on his chart that he "does better when Mom is not around."
Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2025 03:56 PM (lJ0H4)
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We actually have a garden kitty who will climb the leg of a human approaching the front door. He was a feral raised by his even-more-feral mom on the neighbor's patio.
Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 03:58 PM (xekrU)
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"If I was a delivery driver and was attacked by a dog I would sue the owners out of existence... how fucking dare they risk my injury even mutilation to deliver their bullshit!
Posted by: Just Sayin... "
Well, it was a Korean foot massager.
Posted by: Just Sayin... "
Well, it was a Korean foot massager.
Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 03:59 PM (fV+MH)
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Thank you for the Pet Thread K.T.!
Ohhh, Miss Pinky. I'm sorry.
And I hope the chick with splayed legs will be alright.
I'm taking care of 4 generations of cats this weekend. That's kind of funny. Only 4 cats. Great Grandma Starry, Grandma Snowflake who has been with me for 4 weeks and is now an indoor cat, her daughter Peaches and Peaches cat.
Ohhh, Miss Pinky. I'm sorry.
And I hope the chick with splayed legs will be alright.
I'm taking care of 4 generations of cats this weekend. That's kind of funny. Only 4 cats. Great Grandma Starry, Grandma Snowflake who has been with me for 4 weeks and is now an indoor cat, her daughter Peaches and Peaches cat.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 04:01 PM (jvJvP)
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Afternoon, pet folken,
A grand bunch of animules today. I especially liked the feral mom cat and her three kittens. Dr No's presentation of his black cat on the pink/red chair has the quality of a painting rather than a photo. (Of course it might be a painting, in which case my face is about the same shade as the chair.)
Stirling the great black cat, having had a stay regarding his vet appointment yesterday when my car's battery failed, was sleeping with me just now. He tends to do that nearly every afternoon. His stay had nothing to do with it.
I don't know where little Dagny La Siberienne has gotten off to. Soon I need to take a current pic of her and send her kitten shot and the new one to KT, so you can all see how much she has filled out in a little under three years.
A grand bunch of animules today. I especially liked the feral mom cat and her three kittens. Dr No's presentation of his black cat on the pink/red chair has the quality of a painting rather than a photo. (Of course it might be a painting, in which case my face is about the same shade as the chair.)
Stirling the great black cat, having had a stay regarding his vet appointment yesterday when my car's battery failed, was sleeping with me just now. He tends to do that nearly every afternoon. His stay had nothing to do with it.
I don't know where little Dagny La Siberienne has gotten off to. Soon I need to take a current pic of her and send her kitten shot and the new one to KT, so you can all see how much she has filled out in a little under three years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:03 PM (omVj0)
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I need horde advice. I have a lean cat and a chubby one. I don't mind my cat being chubby--she's adorable. But I'm aware of the danger of diabetes down the road. I don't want that.
The easy solution would be if I could feed the lean cat up high, since he is a good leaper, but his idea of eating is to scoop up a pawful and spread it around, then nibble. Big mess.
The vet has recommended one of those electronic feeders that only responds to one collar. Has anyone had success with them? A brand to recommend?
The easy solution would be if I could feed the lean cat up high, since he is a good leaper, but his idea of eating is to scoop up a pawful and spread it around, then nibble. Big mess.
The vet has recommended one of those electronic feeders that only responds to one collar. Has anyone had success with them? A brand to recommend?
Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 04:03 PM (8p/ok)
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My miniature dachshund has gotten very protective of me. He used to be Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky when we visited the vet. Now it's all teeth and growls. I have to disappear so the vet can examine him. They put on his chart that he "does better when Mom is not around."
Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2025
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When Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 and I were visiting her grandparents in AZ, we asked her mother to go over and feed Arizona the big red tabby. Her mother swore that the cat took a stand on the stairs (it was a town house) and refused to let her climb to the second floor. Apparently he was very territorial. He wasn't worried about us when we were there, just about his kingdom.
Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2025
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When Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 and I were visiting her grandparents in AZ, we asked her mother to go over and feed Arizona the big red tabby. Her mother swore that the cat took a stand on the stairs (it was a town house) and refused to let her climb to the second floor. Apparently he was very territorial. He wasn't worried about us when we were there, just about his kingdom.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:06 PM (omVj0)
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Ciampino's daughter here.
Our cat Purrcy needs to see the vet. He is bleeding at times from his mouth. Thank you to the person who already donated last night.
We also received a new cat in our backyard. Picture included in my update #319
[Link to cat fund: https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR]
This is my first pet thread. Sympathies to all who lost their furry friends. The mom and kittens on the deck are adorable.
Our cat Purrcy needs to see the vet. He is bleeding at times from his mouth. Thank you to the person who already donated last night.
We also received a new cat in our backyard. Picture included in my update #319
[Link to cat fund: https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR]
This is my first pet thread. Sympathies to all who lost their furry friends. The mom and kittens on the deck are adorable.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 04:07 PM (sPQoU)
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Sorry to hear about Precious and Pinky. Their going places with you must have increased your bond with them. Sometimes I wish I could bring one of my cats with me on errands. Big black longhair Wolf would have been *very* impressive.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:09 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 04:10 PM (QGUa0)
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Hello Pet-friendly Morons. Hi, KT. Hope you're doing well.
Ran across this:
Jerome Horwitz, famous for playing CURLY in "THE THREE STOOGES", was known to all as a protector of dogs. … Curly is estimated to have saved and rescued more than 5,000 dogs in his lifetime.
xPost with more of the story
https://bit.ly/stooge-curlys-dogs
Good old YooToob didn't let me down
Curly barking
https://youtu.be/nT8y222SVwg
Ran across this:
Jerome Horwitz, famous for playing CURLY in "THE THREE STOOGES", was known to all as a protector of dogs. … Curly is estimated to have saved and rescued more than 5,000 dogs in his lifetime.
xPost with more of the story
https://bit.ly/stooge-curlys-dogs
Good old YooToob didn't let me down
Curly barking
https://youtu.be/nT8y222SVwg
Posted by: mindful webworker - grrrahph at July 12, 2025 04:17 PM (+kBwA)
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I bought cat treats to help keep Snowflake calm when she gets zoomy at night. She still wakes me up as soon as the sun comes up for feeding. I'm fine with that. I have a life to create.
I've been reading up on 'cat training.' Snowflake isn't much of a scratcher. I have her a big cat tree and a scratching post but she'd come in my room and go behind my LazyBoy and I'd hear clawing. Just once, I'd holler and she'd run.
Instead of a water bottle which is cruel, I bought another scratching post and put it behind the chair. She likes that.
And there's furniture strips bit I don't think I'll need them.
Our last issue is jumping on the counters. It's too much. My friend suggested aluminum foil. Tried it. Didn't work. I think I'm going to get double sided tape for cats, put it on the foil and tape the foil to the counter.
Hopefully that'll stop the jumping.
Thank all of you for helping me with the cats.
I've been reading up on 'cat training.' Snowflake isn't much of a scratcher. I have her a big cat tree and a scratching post but she'd come in my room and go behind my LazyBoy and I'd hear clawing. Just once, I'd holler and she'd run.
Instead of a water bottle which is cruel, I bought another scratching post and put it behind the chair. She likes that.
And there's furniture strips bit I don't think I'll need them.
Our last issue is jumping on the counters. It's too much. My friend suggested aluminum foil. Tried it. Didn't work. I think I'm going to get double sided tape for cats, put it on the foil and tape the foil to the counter.
Hopefully that'll stop the jumping.
Thank all of you for helping me with the cats.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 04:17 PM (jvJvP)
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I just walked out to my kitchen and saw an unusual sight.
A full-grown doe is resting in the shade in my backyard. She's beautiful.
Although I've seen deer roaming around my neighborhood from time to time, this is the first time I've seen one hanging out in my backyard.
A full-grown doe is resting in the shade in my backyard. She's beautiful.
Although I've seen deer roaming around my neighborhood from time to time, this is the first time I've seen one hanging out in my backyard.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:19 PM (IBQGV)
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If you discount feral cats, all the "wildlife" I get to see from my window or door drive hoopties and smoke blunts.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:28 PM (omVj0)
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If you discount feral cats, all the "wildlife" I get to see from my window or door drive hoopties and smoke blunts.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:28 PM (omVj0)
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You really need to move to a rural or semi-rural community. It's great!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:28 PM (omVj0)
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You really need to move to a rural or semi-rural community. It's great!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:29 PM (IBQGV)
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My friend suggested safe and economical household electricity.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 04:32 PM (QGUa0)
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You really need to move to a rural or semi-rural community. It's great!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025
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Believe me, I know it. When I'm recovered from the carving of this Monday, I'll plan my trip to Indiana for Sept. The town of Duncan, OK, has been recommended to me too, but that is two days' drive in the *other* direction, so I don't know if I can get to it that month.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025
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Believe me, I know it. When I'm recovered from the carving of this Monday, I'll plan my trip to Indiana for Sept. The town of Duncan, OK, has been recommended to me too, but that is two days' drive in the *other* direction, so I don't know if I can get to it that month.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:33 PM (omVj0)
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I'm staying at my sister's farm. Her pond is teeming with fish. They're not as easy to catch. A heron shows up occasionally. A deer strolled through earlier. Bats come out in the evening and chow down on mosquitos. There are owls but I only hear them. She took a pic over the winter with two Great Horned Owls on a tree. The sun had just set. Cool pic! A large array of birds. Bald eagle flys by occasionally and a huge golden eagle, which I didn't know PA had.
Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:35 PM (uGaBv)
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Believe me, I know it. When I'm recovered from the carving of this Monday, I'll plan my trip to Indiana for Sept. The town of Duncan, OK, has been recommended to me too, but that is two days' drive in the *other* direction, so I don't know if I can get to it that month.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:33 PM (omVj0)
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South-central MO is pretty nice. It's also about halfway between IN and OK...
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:33 PM (omVj0)
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South-central MO is pretty nice. It's also about halfway between IN and OK...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:37 PM (IBQGV)
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Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country
Isn't that a blessing to have a vacation at the farm and appreciate God's creation. Thanks for letting us know what you're seeing and hearing.
Isn't that a blessing to have a vacation at the farm and appreciate God's creation. Thanks for letting us know what you're seeing and hearing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)
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"Salty Liquorice". They seem to be trying to neuter all the strays they find with the new color. Smart?
I did not see any mention of neutering in the article. Maybe I skimmed too skimpily.
I did not see any mention of neutering in the article. Maybe I skimmed too skimpily.
Posted by: Emmie at July 12, 2025 04:42 PM (rF2iL)
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Haven't seen the golden eagle. Apparently they pass through when migrating. Lots of hawks though
Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:43 PM (uGaBv)
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Baby Dagny is asleep on the cushion in my desk chair, in the darkened bedroom. Often I can't find her, only to discover she's gotten shut into one of the closets when I leave the door open. She never cries to be let out and never does any damage. I guess she sort of likes enclosed spaces and trusts that I will let her out eventually.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:44 PM (omVj0)
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Sorry to learn about Precious, JTB.
Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 04:45 PM (xekrU)
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From Popular Mechanice, a new cat color from Finland, "Salty Liquorice".
It's more than just a name. The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z
The Finns drop a few into a bottle to infuse with flavor before drinking it straight.
It's more than just a name. The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z
The Finns drop a few into a bottle to infuse with flavor before drinking it straight.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025 04:46 PM (JCZqz)
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The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z
The Finns drop a few into a bottle to infuse with flavor before drinking it straight.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025
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I hate ordinary licorice anyway. Salting it? I have trouble imagining that.
The Finns drop a few into a bottle to infuse with flavor before drinking it straight.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025
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I hate ordinary licorice anyway. Salting it? I have trouble imagining that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:49 PM (omVj0)
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The deer got up to munch on some of my shrubbery. Now she's laying down again in a different patch of shade.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:49 PM (IBQGV)
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2 We lost Precious the bichon last Monday. We knew she might have a brain tumor but she wasn't in pain and we worked around her fading mobility. That morning she had four serious seizures in less than 90 minutes. The emergency vet confirmed our fears and we made the decision before she could suffer more.
Precious was already older than the usual bichon life expectancy when we adopted her two years ago, so every day with her was a gift. We really miss that little ragamuffin.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (yTvNw
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So sorry for the loss of Precious. I've always liked bichons.
Precious was already older than the usual bichon life expectancy when we adopted her two years ago, so every day with her was a gift. We really miss that little ragamuffin.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (yTvNw
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So sorry for the loss of Precious. I've always liked bichons.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 04:52 PM (NpAcC)
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It is very nice here, Fen. The Amish neighbors brought his kids over to fish in her pond. Don't know if they caught anything.
Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:54 PM (uGaBv)
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JTB and I thank you for your kind words regarding the loss of our Precious.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at July 12, 2025 04:55 PM (yTvNw)
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This is my first pet thread. Sympathies to all who lost their furry friends. The mom and kittens on the deck are adorable.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 04:07 PM (sPQoU)
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Condolences to you and your family. Your dad will truly be missed around here.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 04:07 PM (sPQoU)
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Condolences to you and your family. Your dad will truly be missed around here.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 04:56 PM (NpAcC)
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Good afternoon! apparently we just adopted our youngest boys two doggehs because they had to vacate their rental house. Pancho and Moose have never been to a vet and have no vaccines so we took them for checkups and shots and found out Pancho has heartworms. He’s now on the first round of meds.
The good news is they’re settling in with the other 3 dogs that live here and the Great Dane who is staying with us while the youngest daughter relocates. Oh, and the grandkids are with us this weekend.
The good news is they’re settling in with the other 3 dogs that live here and the Great Dane who is staying with us while the youngest daughter relocates. Oh, and the grandkids are with us this weekend.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 04:57 PM (3Ope8)
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Sorry for the loss of Pinky. She looks just like my Australian terrier I had growing up.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 04:59 PM (NpAcC)
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my porch desperately needs sanding and repainting.
HD power-wash and semi-transparent water proof stain.
Quicker if you don't need perfect color matching.
HD power-wash and semi-transparent water proof stain.
Quicker if you don't need perfect color matching.
Posted by: DaveA at July 12, 2025 05:00 PM (FhXTo)
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I had no idea delivery people posed such danger.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 05:01 PM (RIvkX)
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Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:54 PM (uGaBv
That's nice about the kids coming over and what a change of pace for you from your daily work grind!
That's nice about the kids coming over and what a change of pace for you from your daily work grind!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:01 PM (2GCMq)
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This deer seems to think my backyard is one big smorgasbord. Now she's right outside my office window. My cat Jasmine is perched in the window and is ignoring her.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 05:01 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: DaveA at July 12, 2025 05:02 PM (FhXTo)
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Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 04:57 PM (3Ope
Sounds like a full house! That's nice of you to take care of the dogs and am glad they're all getting along.
Sounds like a full house! That's nice of you to take care of the dogs and am glad they're all getting along.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:03 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 12, 2025 05:07 PM (3Rpkk)
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Some of those delivery men should try out for the Olympics.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07 PM (NpAcC)
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Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07 PM (NpAcC)
LOL. Yes; I don't think I could have jumped like that even in my 20's or 30's.
LOL. Yes; I don't think I could have jumped like that even in my 20's or 30's.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:09 PM (2GCMq)
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Some of those delivery men should try out for the Olympics.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07
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Hurdles or high jump for sure.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07
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Hurdles or high jump for sure.
Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 05:09 PM (Rrx0z)
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Thank you for the Pet Thread, KT. Always a favorite.
Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 05:10 PM (Rrx0z)
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We used to have elk herds now and then, circling the house, enjoying themselves in the gardens and patio. Maybe a dozen feet away.
Once when our dog needed to go out, I called the vet to ask how to handle it. She said deer were a problem, but she had never had a dog/elk incident. So we let him out.
He was a Bouvier--a herding dog. He was in heaven. Trotting proudly back and forth, clearly saying, My herd. The elk didn't mind.
Once when our dog needed to go out, I called the vet to ask how to handle it. She said deer were a problem, but she had never had a dog/elk incident. So we let him out.
He was a Bouvier--a herding dog. He was in heaven. Trotting proudly back and forth, clearly saying, My herd. The elk didn't mind.
Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 05:26 PM (8p/ok)
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Great dog story!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:30 PM (2GCMq)
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That deer is still out there. She's been hanging out in my yard for over an hour now.
She's resting in the shade again, probably trying to take a nap.
She's resting in the shade again, probably trying to take a nap.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 05:32 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:32 PM (HlyYF)
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1 Happy Caturday everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM
Cats get a day once a week?
Dogs only get a few blistering hot days at the peak of summer?
That seems a bit unfair!
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM
Cats get a day once a week?
Dogs only get a few blistering hot days at the peak of summer?
That seems a bit unfair!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:35 PM (HlyYF)
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Pancho is a 10 lb chihuahua. Gigi now has a purse dog.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 05:36 PM (3Ope8)
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Post # 66 Was for Wenda . Sorry
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (2GCMq)
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I heard a long, low, almost demonic howl at 3am Thursday. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Lucy was hiding.
Found out the next day there a freaking BOBCAT in the neighborhood! Google how a bobcat sounds and you will understand why I was so freaked out.
Found out the next day there a freaking BOBCAT in the neighborhood! Google how a bobcat sounds and you will understand why I was so freaked out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 05:38 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 05:39 PM (mT+6a)
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Mamma and Pappaw had a chihuahua named Pancho.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (Yamow)
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Hobby thread is nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM (Yamow)
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Something else we have from this time till about October is bear. When w have guests with ground-level windows we warn them, because bear have been known to just walk in.
Last summer I had an impressive volunteer beehive in one of my aspens. I checked it daily, feeling like Winnie-the-Pooh, and one morning the hive lay in pieces on the driveway. And yes, bear scat right there to tell me who dun it.
Last summer I had an impressive volunteer beehive in one of my aspens. I checked it daily, feeling like Winnie-the-Pooh, and one morning the hive lay in pieces on the driveway. And yes, bear scat right there to tell me who dun it.
Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 05:50 PM (8p/ok)
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Well, Eris can't sand and paint that porch NOW!! You'd wake up the cats!!
There are time-honored rules about these things.
There are time-honored rules about these things.
Posted by: Persnickety at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (jJdyX)
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I've had a number of bad experiences with feral cats and the people who enable them.
Think of cat ladies so irresponsible that they dump their fetish on a neighborhood.
I don't think people would approve of wild dogs running around.
These are not pets, they are wild animals. Pet's need to be socialized.
If you have them around they are eating the birds. lots of them. All the time.
Don't kid yourself.
Think of cat ladies so irresponsible that they dump their fetish on a neighborhood.
I don't think people would approve of wild dogs running around.
These are not pets, they are wild animals. Pet's need to be socialized.
If you have them around they are eating the birds. lots of them. All the time.
Don't kid yourself.
Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 06:25 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 06:28 PM (QB+5g)
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It was time for bed last night and I decided to treat my dog and let him out for one last run around the yard. Mistake. He found a rabbit that the cat had left on the porch. I don't know if it was a gift or if the cat left it there and intended to return and eat it. Regardless, it now belonged to the dog.
He carried it around for awhile, then finally ate it. I sat up and waited for him and waited to be sure he didn't have to puke it up and eat it again, like the last one. So, I ended up staying up an extra hour and a half so he could get a belly full of bunny. It's his third rabbit this year, thanks to his feline brother.
He carried it around for awhile, then finally ate it. I sat up and waited for him and waited to be sure he didn't have to puke it up and eat it again, like the last one. So, I ended up staying up an extra hour and a half so he could get a belly full of bunny. It's his third rabbit this year, thanks to his feline brother.
Posted by: windbag at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (agbau)
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@ 25 Afternoon, pet folken,
A grand bunch of animules today. I especially liked the feral mom cat and her three kittens. Dr No's presentation of his black cat on the pink/red chair has the quality of a painting rather than a photo. (Of course it might be a painting, in which case my face is about the same shade as the chair.)
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Thankee kindly, Mr Wolfus - but: that's not my cat. I found it sleeping (or resting) on the chair arm somewhere on Dauphine Street in the Bywater District (not far from where the F Edward Hebert Hospital used to be). I don't think a nuke would have disturbed that cat's slumber ... it was an interesting 'found' composition, tho'.
A grand bunch of animules today. I especially liked the feral mom cat and her three kittens. Dr No's presentation of his black cat on the pink/red chair has the quality of a painting rather than a photo. (Of course it might be a painting, in which case my face is about the same shade as the chair.)
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Thankee kindly, Mr Wolfus - but: that's not my cat. I found it sleeping (or resting) on the chair arm somewhere on Dauphine Street in the Bywater District (not far from where the F Edward Hebert Hospital used to be). I don't think a nuke would have disturbed that cat's slumber ... it was an interesting 'found' composition, tho'.
Posted by: Dr_No at July 12, 2025 07:03 PM (ayRl+)
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David, I am fascinated by your baby birds. I'm praying they all make it.
I like the names Jax and Jill, adorable labs, they really are the best dogs.
I'm sorry for the loss of Miss Pinky.
I like the names Jax and Jill, adorable labs, they really are the best dogs.
I'm sorry for the loss of Miss Pinky.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 13, 2025 12:00 PM (AZf41)
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73 Listen and tell me you aren’t afraid
https://tinyurl.com/yyeweew4
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 05:39
Can confirm this is a scary noise.
https://tinyurl.com/yyeweew4
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 05:39
Can confirm this is a scary noise.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 13, 2025 12:08 PM (AZf41)
Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 12
Which color do you like best? I currently have some that resemble the pale ones above in a florist's bouquet.
Edible Gardening/Putting Things By
I bought a fignomenal fig in fall of 2023--from Amazon! It was pretty tiny but it made through the winter under a grow light. It put out new leaves in the spring of 2024, I sent a picture of the tiny fig. I set it outdoors for the summer and it grew very nicely, maybe a foot tall by the fall. I took it in for the winter, again under a grow light. there it basically grew in place, so to speak. Once I put it outside again this spring it really took off, it's now in a ten inch pot. I'm pretty sure it's basically reached the mature size, it's even got a fig starting on it!Sounds like a great fig for people where figs may be hard to grow. And yours looks great! An ornamental edible.
Lirio100
Hi KT, glad to have you back! Here's a couple of recent wildlife photos from East Tennessee. 1. Turtle. There used to be a number of turtles at this bridge on my weekend walk; I hadn't seen them in a while, so I was glad when I saw this fellow. He was obviously resting after racing with-- 2. Bunneh. It's bunneh season here in east Tennessee, and I've seen lots of them, from the tiniest babies to this fellow here, obviously prepping for the next Turtle-Bunneh match. 3. Bug. A small-eyed sphinx. apparently quite common in the US, this is the first one I've seen. When their wings are fully open you can see the small eyes on the underwing. Thank you for the Saturday threads!
Hi KT, I happy you're back and I hope you are feeling better. That's tough being ill and in the hospital and I was thinking of you. Your Saturday am threads are really interesting and I save the page so I can read all of your links. I thought you might like this for the garden thread? I cut my lavender and I made a wreath. I've never made one before but I've been wanting to try for a long time. I'm not very artistic but I believe watching someone is easier for me to follow along and execute the project. I watched a video tutorial on YouTube. I think the second time I make one it'll be a little easier. I kept having to trim the stems. I should have cut the stems shorter for my prep. I also should have pre cut twine. She used 5 stems per bunch and attached them counter-clockwise to a wreath frame. She started attaching them in an X shape and then filled in bare spots with more bunches of lavender, tying them to the frame with twine and hiding the twine and stems with more bunches. I needed more lavender, I was about three quarters of the way finished and I realized I needed more and the bees were out so I made do with what I had. As it was there were always two bees buzzing on the wreath as I was tying it but I didn't get stung. The tutorial lady of course made her own frame out of a branch. I used a 12 inch wreath frame from Amazon, it was about 2 or 3 inches wide and I believe it would have been easer with a single branch frame, not as wide and not as many bunches needed to hide the frame/twine. CaliGirlA great project for a beautiful lavender wreath! Thanks for all the details.
Katy, I hope you're doing well. It's a lovely time of year, so I hope you spend a bit of your down time outside. Attached are various pics I've been accumulating. Use them any time, or not at all!
I think some things are best en masse... azaleas and bridalwreath spirea are two. Dirr, the guy who wrote the tree ID book most used in schools calls the fringetree the "landscapers Bradford pear". Heh MkY
If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (UmB+t)
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Srsly, I read the content! Couldn't believe I was sitting there at the top.
Srsly, I read the content! Couldn't believe I was sitting there at the top.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (UmB+t)
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Those are some nice horde gardens, by the way.
Those are some nice horde gardens, by the way.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (UmB+t)
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That sphinx moth doesn't eat tomatoes, apparently. Trees and grape vines.
Love the nature photos. Do you prefer the turtle or the bunny?
Love the nature photos. Do you prefer the turtle or the bunny?
Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 01:39 PM (xekrU)
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I have one crop left. Corn. My area should be good enough for it to grow, but the backyard gets very hot in the summer. I'm giving it one last chance. If the corn doesn't produce either, or dies, then we'll rip out all the planting beds and landscape the yard into ornamentals only. Too old for this no return gardening.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 01:42 PM (0eaVi)
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I have two Fignomenal trees, one from last year and one from this year. The first one spent the winter outside, covered up. I also have a Chicago Hardy fig that I bought last year.
They aren't doing as well as yours, but they are growing and enjoying the heat. I will transplant later in the fall and probably take them indoors for the winter.
I found a good video online about growing figs in containers. He suggested going with standard varieties, as they grow faster. And the Chicago Hardy is definitely bigger than the other two. Am hoping for figs next year.
They aren't doing as well as yours, but they are growing and enjoying the heat. I will transplant later in the fall and probably take them indoors for the winter.
I found a good video online about growing figs in containers. He suggested going with standard varieties, as they grow faster. And the Chicago Hardy is definitely bigger than the other two. Am hoping for figs next year.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 12, 2025 01:44 PM (AcTAo)
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I think making a lavender wreath is wonderful!. I am not at all good with crafts , but I love lavender and so appreciate that Cali girl made one . Beautiful gardens and I like the picture of the turtle. I can see rabbits around here all the time but I have to take a hike by water to see turtles.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:45 PM (2GCMq)
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And the flowers up top are all gorgeous!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:45 PM (2GCMq)
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The figs will be handy when the Christmas carolers shake you down for figgy pudding.
Posted by: They just keep singing til they get it at July 12, 2025 01:49 PM (TbWk/)
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We have lovely little moths outside - white with black spots - and they are called "ermine moth". They look very pretty against the little clumps of tiny yellow flowers which is probably a weed - yellow trefoil.(?)
I'll now let the real gardeners discuss things. That wouldn't be me. Thanks for the pictures.😊
I'll now let the real gardeners discuss things. That wouldn't be me. Thanks for the pictures.😊
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:52 PM (2GCMq)
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Good afternoon Greenthumbs
My mystery plants growing in the garden as of yesterday still have no flowers to start a squash type vegetable. My wife thought they were also cucumbers and leaves certainly look like it. But they are all volunteers
My mystery plants growing in the garden as of yesterday still have no flowers to start a squash type vegetable. My wife thought they were also cucumbers and leaves certainly look like it. But they are all volunteers
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:54 PM (+qU29)
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I have a Chicago hardy fig in the backyard, it's done well enough that we usually end up giving away a lot of the figs. The fignomenal is new and sounded interesting, a fig tree in a container? It seems that there are some others that are supposed to do well in containers, and I've ordered a (tiny) Petite Negra and also one Violette de Bordeaux.
I have one space with a grow light my cats can't get to so this will be the extent of my experiment with the figs!
I have one space with a grow light my cats can't get to so this will be the extent of my experiment with the figs!
Posted by: Lirio100 at July 12, 2025 01:57 PM (ky7/T)
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Flower favorite - the orange and yellow is a spectacular combination!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 01:57 PM (Hlfhp)
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About time should get outside and see what's going on
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:57 PM (+qU29)
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Well, my blackcurrant bush is loaded with hard little green currants. As they ripen, damned birds will steal them I expect.
An hour ago, I was using my hot glue gun to glue patches on a pair of "shop" blue jeans. Suddenly there was a loud zzort! with a bright flash of light from within the glue gun, and a puff of smoke, and whiff of ozone. I guess the cord shorted internally. Did not trigger the breaker. My excitement for the day. Maybe this evening I will take it apart and see if I can fix it.
An hour ago, I was using my hot glue gun to glue patches on a pair of "shop" blue jeans. Suddenly there was a loud zzort! with a bright flash of light from within the glue gun, and a puff of smoke, and whiff of ozone. I guess the cord shorted internally. Did not trigger the breaker. My excitement for the day. Maybe this evening I will take it apart and see if I can fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 02:04 PM (t4dnB)
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Picked 3 green Anaheim peppers, never get the first ones to ripped anyway
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 02:05 PM (+qU29)
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Great pics.
Not going to choose between the turtle & bunny.
Not going to choose between the turtle & bunny.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 12, 2025 02:08 PM (KaHlS)
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My cucumbers are producing enough for me and to give some to my brother. I just ate one, it was delicious. They are my favorite garden item. Cayennes are just getting underway and I hope they are good this year because I have a deal with my cousin to trade peppers for grass fed ground beef. The tomatoes are putting on and I wonder every year at this time why I grow slicers and not cherry or plum tomatoes.
Posted by: huerfano at July 12, 2025 02:09 PM (n2swS)
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What gorgeous alstroemerias! Right now I'd opt for the pink ones, but I'd love the autumnal oranges and golds in the fall.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 02:14 PM (kpS4V)
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From Boise area: I noticed I missed last week, so this week, I'm typing right after I come in from working. Lows mid 60's, highs over 100 F. We had a windstorm on Thurs. 3rd that pulled the plastic cover off our mini-greenhouse and sent it toward my neighbors - we recovered it.
I'm weeding raised beds, bean/pea rows in the corn patch - harvesting shelling peas, lettuce, a few strawberries, red raspberries, a few green beans, a bit of lavender, first pickling cucumbers, broccolini.
We put tomato cages on the paste ones. I dug my garlic out of their pots - none were as big as the original, but at least I got some, so a semi-successful crop. I had to pull out my zucchini - I planted a sprout out of the compost, but it appears to be a hybrid, because I got zucchini-blimps. Put in 2 fresh seeds, in hopes I can get some real zucchini before frost.
Puttering: We brewed our summer beer. Husband got a tow-behind sprayer for killing weeds. I've been edging the curve of landscape rocks around the shed, where a lot of grass has crept in.
I'm weeding raised beds, bean/pea rows in the corn patch - harvesting shelling peas, lettuce, a few strawberries, red raspberries, a few green beans, a bit of lavender, first pickling cucumbers, broccolini.
We put tomato cages on the paste ones. I dug my garlic out of their pots - none were as big as the original, but at least I got some, so a semi-successful crop. I had to pull out my zucchini - I planted a sprout out of the compost, but it appears to be a hybrid, because I got zucchini-blimps. Put in 2 fresh seeds, in hopes I can get some real zucchini before frost.
Puttering: We brewed our summer beer. Husband got a tow-behind sprayer for killing weeds. I've been edging the curve of landscape rocks around the shed, where a lot of grass has crept in.
Posted by: Pat* at July 12, 2025 02:15 PM (x+74H)
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Figs are easy to grow, but tough to harvest. They don't ripen when picked, so just as the ripen on the branch some critter eats them all.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 12, 2025 02:17 PM (wBaIH)
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Picked my first 'maters yesterday, two beautiful Striped Romas. I'll use them in a salad tonight.
My plants have loads of green tomatoes. Some have blossom end rot, which always seems to appear for a week or two. I put soil enricher in again; maybe that will give them enough calcium.
My butterfly and bee garden finally has lots of visitors! Even hummingbirds. Most popular hangouts are the butterfly bush and bee balm, naturally.
My plants have loads of green tomatoes. Some have blossom end rot, which always seems to appear for a week or two. I put soil enricher in again; maybe that will give them enough calcium.
My butterfly and bee garden finally has lots of visitors! Even hummingbirds. Most popular hangouts are the butterfly bush and bee balm, naturally.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 02:19 PM (kpS4V)
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Gorgeous photos throughout the post. The alstromeria are all pretty but the second one from the top is spectacular. It looks like it is glowing as if releasing stored up sunlight.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 02:20 PM (yTvNw)
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Is that spirea in the bottom photo?
Posted by: Miflin at July 12, 2025 02:21 PM (aA6YN)
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Now I'm looking for almost fully grown privacy hedges. I can't wait for them to grow. I need to block the view of the crappy covered porch my neighbor just had built.
My other issue is avoiding my sprinkler system when I do plant them.
My other issue is avoiding my sprinkler system when I do plant them.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 02:22 PM (VofaG)
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I'm anxious to try my Mad Hatter, Fatalii, Yellow T-Rex, and Kraken Scorpion peppers when they ripen. I also have mellower peppers like Habanada, Banana, Jalapeño, and long sweet peppers.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 02:23 PM (kpS4V)
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Saying goodbye to the last black raspberries of the year. Always amazing that they grow well in spite of my total incompetence with plants!
Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 12, 2025 02:30 PM (/rQlD)
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I planted a white alstroemeria this year... I made myself pick white because I tend to plant pink everything... It's doing well...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 12, 2025 02:32 PM (VE6XX)
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So many beautiful, colorful plants. Neal in Israel always has a nice collection. And Cali Girls lavender wreath is quite a project. I'm wondering if it will last a long time. So attractive.
Posted by: AlmostYuman at July 12, 2025 02:35 PM (bj34f)
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The weather has been nasty lately, too hot, too humid to do much outside and lots of brief but intense thunderstorms. But the plants love it. The rose of Sharon are at their peak and are just lovely. Same with the crepe myrtles. Splashes of rich color that are a pleasure to watch. You can tell which households have been long established by the size of the shrubs.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 02:36 PM (yTvNw)
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We haven't had much trouble with wildlife going after the figs. Very true they can't stay on the tree and they don't keep well once picked. That's why in good years we end up giving some away.
Posted by: Lirio100 at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (ky7/T)
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"Plant hydrangeas," they said. "They're beautiful and low maintenance they said." OK, they aren't exactly low-maintenance, they're as thirsty as a Hollywood nymphomaniac. But they never mentioned hydrangeas draw houseflies like diarrhea on a cattle feedlot.
Any suggestions on handling the houseflies in my hydrangeas?
Any suggestions on handling the houseflies in my hydrangeas?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (DIweC)
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I wonder how long the scent lasts on the lavender wreath.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 02:46 PM (yTvNw)
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Any suggestions on handling the houseflies in my hydrangeas?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (DIweC)
Stop planting them in the house?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (DIweC)
Stop planting them in the house?
Posted by: Then they're just flies at July 12, 2025 02:48 PM (TbWk/)
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Love AoSHQ but this and the Pet thread are my favorites.
I have only basics, i.e., tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, large and small cucumbers, "salad" marigolds, in the garden & several of those are growing in containers. There are mostly perennials, such as azaleas, hydrangea, hostas, coral bells, sedums, clematis - and a few that may be colorful, giant weeds, in the yard. Maintaining even that little patch of yard & land gets difficult at times.
This year, the vegetables & sedum look great in the heat and rain, the others are not so great as they're not shielded at all from summer sun. Had to remove all of the large trees, both front and back, on this tiny lot so I need to get up awnings or latticework barriers "if we stay." (Definitely for another time & place.)
I can't imagine making a lovely wreath of lavender! You are blessed. The patience, fine hand work and 'eye' for design necessary for such a project are well beyond my capabilities.
Thanks for all of the wonderful, uplifting pictures! They make the weekend so much brighter.
I have only basics, i.e., tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, large and small cucumbers, "salad" marigolds, in the garden & several of those are growing in containers. There are mostly perennials, such as azaleas, hydrangea, hostas, coral bells, sedums, clematis - and a few that may be colorful, giant weeds, in the yard. Maintaining even that little patch of yard & land gets difficult at times.
This year, the vegetables & sedum look great in the heat and rain, the others are not so great as they're not shielded at all from summer sun. Had to remove all of the large trees, both front and back, on this tiny lot so I need to get up awnings or latticework barriers "if we stay." (Definitely for another time & place.)
I can't imagine making a lovely wreath of lavender! You are blessed. The patience, fine hand work and 'eye' for design necessary for such a project are well beyond my capabilities.
Thanks for all of the wonderful, uplifting pictures! They make the weekend so much brighter.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 02:49 PM (NFX2v)
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In my new community we have approximately 10 lakes and ponds that can see. Probably another 10 in our preserve area. In that last month I've stopped my truck 5 times to get out and help Mr turtle return to one of those lakes or ponds.
Tip when picking up turtles is to fully extend your arms away from you because they will expel any water /pee they have as soon as you pick them up.
Tip when picking up turtles is to fully extend your arms away from you because they will expel any water /pee they have as soon as you pick them up.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 02:57 PM (VofaG)
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Praying Mantis have housed in the hydrangeas for awhile and now they're expanding to clementis and mint. They seem to keep their territories healthier than others adjacent - including no flies, moths, etc. - but I'm terrified of them and that affects plant maintenance.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 03:02 PM (NFX2v)
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Afternoon all.
I have got to get my act together and send in the pictures of the terrace water garden at my condo. It is pretty unique.
I have not been able to do my trail walks so trying to focus in on what is around me although watching a Crow devour a bird on the terrace was not what I had in mind. Hrothgar's comment was 'nature's way of recycling'. 😉
I have got to get my act together and send in the pictures of the terrace water garden at my condo. It is pretty unique.
I have not been able to do my trail walks so trying to focus in on what is around me although watching a Crow devour a bird on the terrace was not what I had in mind. Hrothgar's comment was 'nature's way of recycling'. 😉
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 03:06 PM (t/2Uw)
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Neal, the flowers are gorgeous. Don't know whee exactly you are in Israel but I am glad you havfe this beauty around you.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 03:07 PM (t/2Uw)
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Lunch break. Nomming on some "Savory Samosa Chipz" chili Lime flavored. They are yummy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 03:11 PM (h5SgU)
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Praying Mantids are predators that eat other, more pesty bugs. They do look fierce but they are like Marines, you want to have them on your side.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 03:17 PM (CHHv1)
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When I was a fourth grade science teacher, I would have my students dissect alstromeria so they could examine all the parts of the flower. Wonderful flowers for a simple project like that. The colors are always gorgeous and the parts are easily identifiable.
Thanks for the beautiful garden thread KT! Hope you are feeling well.
Thanks for the beautiful garden thread KT! Hope you are feeling well.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 12, 2025 03:17 PM (dyL4B)
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Been putting a lot of effort into my grape vines the last few weekends. I was fortunate to get some cuttings for seedless grapes (can only get seedless if you use cuttings) a few years ago.
The vines look pretty healthy. Lots of rain around here this year. About the first week of September I'll harvest...and at my house, they go right into the freezer. Nature's popsicle (or icy snack bites actually). Nothing better than some frozen grapes on a hot afternoon, and their natural sugar make-up keeps them from freezing solid. It's a nice alternative to the sugar water "freeze pops" that wind up your kids on sugar and have questionable flavor.
The vines look pretty healthy. Lots of rain around here this year. About the first week of September I'll harvest...and at my house, they go right into the freezer. Nature's popsicle (or icy snack bites actually). Nothing better than some frozen grapes on a hot afternoon, and their natural sugar make-up keeps them from freezing solid. It's a nice alternative to the sugar water "freeze pops" that wind up your kids on sugar and have questionable flavor.
Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 03:20 PM (dIske)
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PET NOOD IS UP
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM (+qU29)
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Have a fig from a cutting at mom's in the '90s. It made it into a tree in the country and now a cutting is struggling 6 years here. I should did it up and pot it to keep it alive for the next move.
When it rains.
When it rains.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 03:26 PM (zH8im)
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Beautiful photos from everyone, as always. I'm especially envious of that lavender wreath!
Lavender doesn't seem to be too happy here. I have one that's been with me since 2021. I tried to take some cuttings 2 years ago but they didn't make it. Perhaps I'm not taking them early enough (it gets hot here).
When I lived in Sweden I befriended a nice lady, Solveig, who had a nursery and was at one point the biggest provider of lavender in Sweden. I took thousands of cuttings for her and she paid me in plants. A very nice arrangement!
I'll try again next spring, as soon as tender shoots get long enough. Eventually I plan to place them out in the vegetable garden, to harvest flowers. Perhaps near the squash plants (which always seem to need pollinators drawn to them).
Lavender doesn't seem to be too happy here. I have one that's been with me since 2021. I tried to take some cuttings 2 years ago but they didn't make it. Perhaps I'm not taking them early enough (it gets hot here).
When I lived in Sweden I befriended a nice lady, Solveig, who had a nursery and was at one point the biggest provider of lavender in Sweden. I took thousands of cuttings for her and she paid me in plants. A very nice arrangement!
I'll try again next spring, as soon as tender shoots get long enough. Eventually I plan to place them out in the vegetable garden, to harvest flowers. Perhaps near the squash plants (which always seem to need pollinators drawn to them).
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 12, 2025 04:38 PM (w6EFb)
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From Popular Mechanice, a new cat color from Finland, "Salty Liquorice".
It's more than just a name. The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z
The Finns drop a few into a bottle of vodka and let the flavor soak in before drinking it straight.
It's more than just a name. The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z
The Finns drop a few into a bottle of vodka and let the flavor soak in before drinking it straight.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025 04:45 PM (JCZqz)
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21 Figs are easy to grow, but tough to harvest. They don't ripen when picked, so just as the ripen on the branch some critter eats them all.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
Not if you have a .22 rifle with a scope and a suppressor.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
Not if you have a .22 rifle with a scope and a suppressor.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 04:46 PM (XI1F5)
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I have a couple of Korean black grapes (Podo) my wife got from a good friend of hers, one is in a pot and is trying to have grapes this year for the first time, and the other one is planted in the arbor with the other grapes, and it is without grapes still. Both were started from cuttings, and there were two successes out of six cuttings.
I have a volunteer grape that sprouted from the compost I dug in the garden about five years ago, it has grapes again this year, but I think it is just a concord, nothing exciting.
I have what I suspect are interlaken seedless grapes and I dry those for raisins
I have a volunteer grape that sprouted from the compost I dug in the garden about five years ago, it has grapes again this year, but I think it is just a concord, nothing exciting.
I have what I suspect are interlaken seedless grapes and I dry those for raisins
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 05:44 PM (D7oie)
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I like the cream and pink colored alstroemeria. All of them are so lovely and I like them as cut flowers, they seem to last a long time.
How cool to see turtles in the wild. Huge jackrabbit.
I start fig trees from cuttings and they live okay in pots but they're outdoors. They will bear fruit but the tree looks sparse until planted in the ground.
What I believe are azaleas look like bougainvillea. Or it's bougainvillea. I love the fringe tree. I have never seen one of those that I'm aware of. Beautiful.
How cool to see turtles in the wild. Huge jackrabbit.
I start fig trees from cuttings and they live okay in pots but they're outdoors. They will bear fruit but the tree looks sparse until planted in the ground.
What I believe are azaleas look like bougainvillea. Or it's bougainvillea. I love the fringe tree. I have never seen one of those that I'm aware of. Beautiful.
Posted by: SandyBergerspants at July 13, 2025 10:40 AM (AZf41)
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Off silly sock.
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