Gun Thread: Happy Mother's Day Edition! [Weasel]

Kate "Ma" Barker c. 1932

Well today it seems fitting to pay tribute to the shooting Moms in our lives, by dragging out our picture of Ma Barker. Happy Mother's Day! In fact, all the shooting 'ettes deserve a special day of their own, don't you think?!

Hey! Remember that time when I promised you a WeaselVideo on the '03 Springfield? Remember that time? Welp, I have some bad news, I couldn't make it to the farm this week so it didn't happen. I'll have it next weekend, I promise!! I double promise! Swearsies!

Anyhow, that's what you get for believing a guy calling himself "Weasel" on the internet, but what do we do for this week? Fortunately, I had some footage saved from a couple of weeks back when I was making the Garand video. So, in an historic WeaselVideo first, we have a Special Guest Shooter! That's right, my main shooting buddy "Geoff" came down to the farm to do some shooting with his MP5. So let's have a look at that, shall we?

WeaselAcres and the H&K MP5

I'm here to tell you, the MP5 is a very, very nice firearm. Bigly very nice. It's a solid platform, and Geoff has done a great job in fitting it out with the folding stock, foregrip and optics, don't you think? A big thank you to Geoff who is probably lurking here this evening, so let's give him a hearty Gun Thread welcome!

The weather is supposed to be great this week, so I am planning to head to the farm for a few days to do some mowing and other chores, and to film the '03 Springfield shooting sequences. I really mean it this time! Honest!

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So what else do we have? Well, we're chock full o' content this week!

Our pal Alberta Oil Peon mentioned in the comments last week that he was working on a project gun.

On Friday I messed with the barrel of the Chinese Mystery Pistol. I brought barrel and breechblock home with me, not the frame! So I am legal at border crossing.
Threads on the breech end of the barrel, where it screws into the frame appear to be 5/8-18 NF. Using my thread gauge, 18 tpi is the closest match. Nothing metric even comes close. Looked up British Standard Whitworth, and British Standard Fine, and there is nothing close to 18 tpi in a 5/8" diameter. The thread on the barrel is damaged, so I am going to go with 5/8-18. A 5/8-18 nut does spin on there OK, but a little loosely.
Anyway, my plan is to buy a new Tokarev TT-30 barrel from a Canadian supplier, and once it is in my hands, devise a way to make it fit the mystery pistol. Either thread the barrel in my lathe, or maybe make a threaded sleeve, which could be silver-soldered to the barrel once the right headspace and clocking of the feed ramp and extractor slot is established.

So AOP agreed to send pictures and you can at least believe what he says, because I almost immediately had the following:

Here are 3 pics of the darn thing. It is apparently a Chinese-made
copy of an FN model 1900, dating to the warlord era in China, between
the fall of the last Emperor, and the rise of the Commies. But it's not
chambered in .32 ACP, but in .30 Mauser. Both Mauser Broomhandles and FN
1900's were popular in China during that time, so it's not surprising
that some gunsmith there tried to make a "1900 clone" chambered for the
hotter cartridge.
Looks like some former owner might have tried to fire a 7.62 X 25 Tokarev cartridge, which then damaged the chamber, and whacked the slide back viciously, too.
And the only marking on it is that one serial number.

Thanks AOP, that's a very cool mystery gun. We'll look forward to more reports as your project moves along!

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And from our pal A.H. Lloyd we have the following nice report:

A couple of years ago I started building a Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" out of spare parts. The goal is to have a nice refinished "shooter's gun." It will have little historical value for collectors, but is something one can shoot without remorse. The project had languished, but during the lockdown I took the plunge and bought a reproduction holster/stock.
This may come as a surprise to many people, but right now it's illegal to put a stock on a handgun because "short-barreled rifles" are for some strange reason restricted. You can own them, but you need to get a tax stamp. This restriction is why "braces" are becoming more popular.
Anyhow, the C96 is one of a handful of pistols exempt from this silly rule due to its C&R status. Last weekend, I withdrew to a secure undisclosed location for some range time to see how it shoots.
The distance was about 18 yards and my first 30 shots were with just the pistol.

Not bad for a casual shooter. Weasel would probably have obliterated the bullseye. [...or shot himself in the foot. - Weasel]
Next, I added the stock. If you look at videos about this, you'll see repeated references about the need to tuck the thumb of one's shooting hand lest the hammer smash it. This is absolutely true, and I learned a painful lesson. After applying some dirt and hot iron, I continued, with the result shown below. Pay no attention to the upper two holes, my daughter forgot what target she was engaging with her .22.

In terms of handling, I like the C96 a lot. It is barrel-heavy, but 7.63 Mauser is a very snappy round, and while you get a lot of barrel rise, it then self-corrects. With the stock attached there is much less recoil, leading to faster, more accurate fire. Pistol carbines are all the rage now, but this weapon shows they are nothing new. I understand why the Chinese and Spanish cranked them out in bulk, and why the C96 stayed in production for 40 years (longer if you include the clones).
If not for the expense and rarity of the ammo, this would be a fantastic little plinker. It's a little awkward at first, and using stripper clips is not something most people are used to, but otherwise it is a hoot to shoot. Completely changes the feel of the weapon.

Since I was playing with archaic stuff, I thought it would be fun to take out my Webley Mk VI in .455 and see how it compared. This one has a shaved cylinder, but I've modified some full moon clips to take the original cartridges.
Growing up, I read a great deal about how the .455 was supposedly a hefty round with fearsome recoil, but in the large frame it's very easy to shoot. In fact, the contemporaneous Dreyse M1907 is a lot snappier, but no one talks about the brutal recoil of .32 ACP.
A note on the target: I was having some fun, so I fired it on single action, double action, and unsupported on double action, which generally wrecked my group but was quite enjoyable. All in all, a nice relaxing day at the range. Tragically, I decided to take a canoe home and well, its turned over and everything was lost. Again.

That's a great report, AHL!! Thank you!

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Our pal and delightful 'ette Bebe's Boobs Destroy sends us the following question:

Howdy! I've been shopping for a faraday pouch for my phone to foil our contact tracing marxist overlords here in California & it's kinda confusing but I'm pretty sure this is something the horde could help with!

C'mon, people, let's help Bebe out!

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Our pal Zeus sends us the following note on WTM's targets from last week:

When I saw the post from WTM and the picture of the target he shot with his .45 LC Judge it reminded me of a story a corrections officer friend told me about his annual range qualification. He shot a good string except for two hits in the throat area of the silhouette target. When adding up his qualification score the range officer told him the two shots in the throat didn't count. His terse reply was," Well, they sure as hell count in the street."

That's a great story, Zeus, thanks for sharing it!

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This week's mail bag entry comes from our pal JT

Man, ain't that the truth. Thanks, JT!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Gunsmoke

Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCEU2)

2 bang!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 07:01 PM (dlZr1)

3 haze gray and the gub thread is underway!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 07:01 PM (dlZr1)

4 Sadly only painting lead not firing it.

Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 07:02 PM (ZCEU2)

5 Regarding MP5's, does anyone know when PSA is planning on releasing their much anticipated clone?

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 10, 2020 07:02 PM (dearX)

6 She seems nice.

Posted by: eleven at May 10, 2020 07:03 PM (Qf83p)

7 Thank you for the Gun Thread, the food thread was making me hungry.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 10, 2020 07:04 PM (kp35W)

8 A big thank you to Geoff who is probably lurking here this evening, so let's give him a hearty Gun Thread welcome!

On behalf of Teh Horde, I offer this laurel...and hearty handshake!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2020 07:05 PM (rBtIz)

9 Got to admit I've never seen ass-back before.

Posted by: eleven at May 10, 2020 07:05 PM (Qf83p)

10 CO Morons may be interested in this off-site class from Gunsite in late July (remove spaces):
https://www.gunsite.com/ classes/ colorado-three-day-carbine/
Note, they've changed the location from a range north of Greeley to the Longmont PD range.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2020 07:08 PM (0ReGO)

11 test

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:08 PM (DVaS/)

12 Got to admit I've never seen ass-back before.
Posted by: eleven at May 10, 2020 07:05 PM (Qf83p)
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I've heard of "bass ackward" and "ass backward" but this...

Well.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:08 PM (WEBkv)

13 Hunh. Cut and paste no worky this time. I'll have to actually type this live. Gimme a minute or three

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:10 PM (DVaS/)

14 Another fine gun thread Weasel. Shout out and welcome to Geoff, nice tight pattern on full auto. Guessing you may reload, firing that baby looks like a blast.

Posted by: Uncle Si at May 10, 2020 07:11 PM (azhRd)

15 i applied for Malig-Nancy's PUA, and am simply waiting on the card from BoA, as the CA EDD has already approved over $2K to my account.

so, being of sound mind, i went over to my favorite local toy store Friday, and they still had the Thompson Contender set that has been languishing on the display shelf for some months now.

at least 5 or 6 different barrels, 3 scopes, and mine for just over $1600, out the door. it's now in the back room, waiting for me to get my card.

Thanks Demonrats!

in other news, the local Sporting Clays spot is opening this week, on the 15th.

all sorts of fuss and bother, because #Failifornia, but at least they will be open.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 07:11 PM (dlZr1)

16 I wish I had gun nooz to report, but, commiefornia and shooting places just aren't readily available.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:12 PM (WEBkv)

17 The banjo music...the tractor...the dog...totally weasel!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (UUBmN)

18 Weasel!! *waves*

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (dUJdY)

19 About the Faraday cage idea for phones, if you have a modern phone, iphone or android type, that thing is just a-transmitting the pings all day long.
If it didn't, it wouldn't work.
So in a way we are all like a bunch of peeping frogs in a pond, all saying the same thing: "I am here".
If you ever go on the lam, tape it to a passing truck and go the other way.

Posted by: attilla the thrilla at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (w7KSn)

20 No range report but my Garand came. I am ... pleased.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmN95xdL

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (yQpMk)

21 LOL !!

Thanks Weasel !

Posted by: JT at May 10, 2020 07:14 PM (arJlL)

22 Gunga la Gunga !

Posted by: JT at May 10, 2020 07:14 PM (arJlL)

23 Helena Handbasket, provider of incredible bacon and shooting info.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:14 PM (cgIyZ)

24 Faraday cages are basically a metal cage, generally done with screen so it's lighter and cheaper, but the screen size has to match the wavelength of what you're trying to block. Solid metal blocks all wavelengths. Same with a pouch. Inside, you place something that you're protecting so it can't come into contact with the cage. All of that aside, a cookie tin lined with cardboard makes an effective faraday cage, as does an old microwave. A pouch - make a three layer pouch - leather (or material), thick layer of foil (aluminum, lead, whatever, but thick enough so it's not easy to tear) and another layer of material. Easy peasy.

Posted by: Bama Bubba at May 10, 2020 07:15 PM (mAxkE)

25 I saw Bebe's request and my thought is this: Leaving the phone behind is all well and good, but, how many purchases are you making with your Debit or Credit Card?

Best to take the phone with you, hit an ATM, get a fist full of dollars, drop the phone at home, then continue on with cash for the civil disobedience.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM (WEBkv)

26 Grump nice!

Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM (ZCEU2)

27 Posted by: Uncle Si at May 10, 2020 07:11 PM (azhRd)
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Thanks Uncle Si - Geoff is a true Moron, and a heck of a shooter!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM (MVjcR)

28 I'm really enjoying the videos weasel, and the weaseldog signoff makes me laugh.

Posted by: browndog at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM (gD6Ka)

29 Regarding Weasel-promised content, I seem to remember mention of a Garand-thumb demonstration, replete with authentic WWII expletives.

H&K mentions are always a plus!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM (DMUuz)

30 By the by, I am seriously considering picking up a trac phone, cash, and using pre-paid cards, using cash, to run the thing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM (WEBkv)

31 While I was picking up the M1, my guy says Hey, would you be interested in a few of these to go with that?, and brought out a box of Greek bandoleers. I bought one six clips full, probably should have bought two. I should have taken a picture of it but I am too lazy now to go outside and do it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM (yQpMk)

32 Well, I finally found out why my range up in Broomfield was closed all this time. Seems like some young yahoo got himself an AR at a pawnshop and asked the old guy behind the counter if he could fire tracer rounds with it. Old guy told him yeah. So the kid loads up his mags with tracer rounds and heads to the range. Now this range, like probably every range in country makes you sign a liability waiver. I distinctly remember when I signed it said tracer ammunition is prohibited at this site. (and every other range I've signed those for).
So kid goes and unloads a mag with his tracer rounds at the range. Now, the backstop at this range is shredded tire material. And predictably, it caught fire. Burned a hole in the roof. So they've been closed to remodel and hope to re-open in a week or two.
Young kid, arrested for felony arson. I hope he enjoyed shooting the last firearm he'll ever posses, legally.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM (VNmG1)

33 Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (yQpMk)
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Nice Grump!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM (MVjcR)

34 Hey everyone!

The Chinese mystery pistol is very cool.

That is a rabbit hole I don't know if I can trust myself to go down.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (cfSRQ)

35 Duct tape and aluminum foil and you can make a faraday pouch for your phone in less than a beer, maybe a beer and a half if you want it neat.

Posted by: Bama Bubba at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (mAxkE)

36 Best to take the phone with you, hit an ATM, get a fist full of dollars, drop the phone at home, then continue on with cash for the civil disobedience.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM

True dat. Should nature call, I've never seen a pay toilet that accepts credit or debit cards.

Be prepared. Always have some Johnny Cash.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (DMUuz)

37 No thanks. My 1950s police billy club will do the job.

Posted by: Alex What's My Price at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (2oYEN)

38 Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (UUBmN)
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Ha! Yep! Howdy, lin-duh!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (MVjcR)

39 Weasel
Thanks for the great content!
Bebe's I have an aluminum cigar case. An iphone fits in nicely. My first test with it seemed to block the signal okay.
I need to experiment some more but it's just a thought.
IIRC the Metropolitan Museum of Art used to sell Farraday bags for people who just couldn't not turn their phones off.
Good luck

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (WFAUg)

40 Ok, here goes - Hey, Weasel, Horde, friends and family (BIRM) No, I did not go to the range, I drove 2600 plus miles to get to Virginia, Pretty place ya got here, even if the peoples are ate UP with the covid Panicdemonia. One thing I did do was receive a gift from a deceased friend... Some of you may remember from days gone by, at a place not to be named, a fella who went by "Iron Fist" His widow gave me the US Govt 1911 promised me. Based on the serial number, the born on date was sometime in 1944. Built by Remington-Rand. It'll go on display in my new digs

I'll get settled and fly back to MT for Memorial Day and spend time at the cabin with Giggles. Whats everyone else's plans?

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (DVaS/)

41 Posted by: Jewells45 at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (dUJdY)
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Hi Jewells!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:20 PM (MVjcR)

42 blake, been doing just that for a long time.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:21 PM (cgIyZ)

43 Thirty thousand dead presidents for a bent piece of metal? Holy cow.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 10, 2020 07:21 PM (wGeit)

44 Nice Grump!

Thanks. It is in great shape externally. A couple of compressions, and one scratch, that I considered fixing but then I decided it was nice enough as it is. I can't comment on the bore yet as I haven't shot it and I have no gauges.

Of course the first thing I did yesterday was tear it completely down and clean and oil it. The weird thing, and I have found this often, though this rifle has clearly passed though several hands, it still had cosmoline in lots of places inside.

Lots of people do not seem to really clean their surplus rifles even when they shoot them.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:22 PM (yQpMk)

45 i've got a HighPower* with a slot on the back strap that also came with a wooden holster that doubles as a stock.

never tried to shoot it that way, back in the day, and now i guess i should wait until i'm somewhere private to give it a try...

no sense giving the Karen's an easy bust.

Inglis i've told you before we collect weird stuff.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/obscure-
object-desire-chinese-contract-inglis-hi-power/

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 07:23 PM (dlZr1)

46 28 I'm really enjoying the videos weasel, and the weaseldog signoff makes me laugh.

Posted by: browndog at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM (gD6Ka)
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Thank you! They're a lot of fun to do and I'm happy you all like them. Even though they're not very long I think they're a little more interesting than just writing about stuff.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:23 PM (oGne4)

47 Yesterday I was walking talking to my uncle and he mentioned that he was considering getting a Glock.

It took all my willpower to maintain my composure. My daughter was watching me expectantly, and gave me a knowing glance when she saw my eye starting to twitch uncontrollably.

"I'm not a fan of Glocks," I said as the silence became awkward. "Have you considered a Walther instead?"

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:24 PM (cfSRQ)

48 Interestingly enough I may be very distantly related to Ma Barker.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

49 I'm a ma, too!

Posted by: Ma Kettle. at May 10, 2020 07:24 PM (Vy7tf)

50 Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (DVaS/)
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Howdy neighbor! We'll need pics of the 1911!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:24 PM (MVjcR)

51 and the weaseldog signoff makes me laugh.

Posted by: browndog at May 10, 2020 07:16 PM

Weaseldog rocks. That never fails to make me laugh.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (rBtIz)

52 Weasel, Thanks for the amazing content. Geoff's explanation about the MP5 and full auto in general is about the best I've seen.

I'm sure firing a full auto is fun but I'm way too cheap to blow off ammo with one. And if someone else provided the ammo, I would feel guilty about shooting up all of theirs. (1950s Catholic guilt and Yankee frugality.)

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (7EjX1)

53 That's a man, baby!

Posted by: irright at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (RVcmP)

54 Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (WFAUg)
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My pleasure, Winston! Thanks for being here.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (MVjcR)

55 43 Thirty thousand dead presidents for a bent piece of metal? Holy cow.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 10, 2020 07:21 PM (wGeit)

Yes. Getting the registered sear is ungodly expensive due to unconstitutional federal firearms laws.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (NWiLs)

56 I keep getting spam from some NV firm pushing a loophole in VA state law. They claim to be able to exploit VA law to get a person a non-resident concealed pistol permit.

They are calling it a nationwide CCP, even though VA only has a 28 state reciprocal agreement.

Anyone heard about this? BS, or real?

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 10, 2020 07:26 PM (VcFUs)

57 AOP, I am told the Chinese (pre-war) made a lot of hand-crafted pistols and these were considered one of the nicer gifts to give, say, to overseas businessmen.

they liked the German designs, and apparently there was lots of contacts between the nationalists and the German industrialists and some government types looking for raw materials, right up to when the Japanese started complaining that their allies should either stop working with the enemies of the Japanese, or stop being their allies.

This is what I was told in passing, when I was looking at pictures of another mystery pistol.
It seems that the gunsmiths would find things they like and kind of, put them together.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2020 07:26 PM (WyVLE)

58 ... asked the old guy behind the counter if he could fire tracer rounds with it. Old guy told him yeah. ...
Young kid, arrested for felony arson. I hope he enjoyed shooting the last firearm he'll ever posses, legally.
Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM

If I'm on the jury, with those facts I'm voting not guilty.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 10, 2020 07:26 PM (r6GXX)

59 I'm in total lust with that MP5.

*checks bank account*

Just a leeeeetle short...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:27 PM (NWiLs)

60 48 Interestingly enough I may be very distantly related to Ma Barker.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:24 PM (NWiLs)
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I thought you seemed shifty!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:27 PM (MVjcR)

61 Well daughter made a great taco dinner and now I'm gonna go vegetate in front of the tube for a bit. See ya'll on the ONT.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 10, 2020 07:27 PM (dUJdY)

62 So basically you need about $35,000++ just laying around to have a fully automatic weapon... legally. Ridiculous !!!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (UUBmN)

63 Howdy gunslingers...

Any of you not already familiar with Paul Harrell on YT. He recently posted a FAQ video in recognition of surpassing 500K followers. His Shasta Soda commercial had me LOL.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (BaHwF)

64 Lots of people do not seem to really clean their surplus rifles even when they shoot them.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:22 PM (yQpMk)

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It's not just rifles. At this point, whenever I get a new vintage firearm, the first thing I do is crack it open and do a major deep clean. Even if they look nice on the outside, odds are no one has bothered a field strip since it was mustered out of service.

I'm going to give a shout-out to Break Free CLP because that stuff is really ripping the carbon out of that Dreyse M1907. The bolt is getting visibly brighter under repeated applications and as I noted last week, it's running better and better.

One thing I've also learned: pace yourself. One deep clean isn't enough. It's better to do a series of sessions to chip your way through than to try to get it clean in one go.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (cfSRQ)

65 Weasel and / or any reloaders.... what is the best source to find the ballistic coefficient of a bullet? I checked a couple manufacturers sites and they seem inconsistent. Hornady displays mostly G1, sometimes G7 too; others don't tell you which they are showing...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (0ReGO)

66 Some of you may remember from days gone by, at a place not to be named, a fella who went by "Iron Fist"

I remember Iron Fist. He's passed on?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (lwiT4)

67 Another great video Weasel

Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (ZCEU2)

68 52 Weasel, Thanks for the amazing content. Geoff's explanation about the MP5 and full auto in general is about the best I've seen.

I'm sure firing a full auto is fun but I'm way too cheap to blow off ammo with one. And if someone else provided the ammo, I would feel guilty about shooting up all of theirs. (1950s Catholic guilt and Yankee frugality.)
Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks JTB. They do seem to go through ammo quickly! Geoff did a great job for a spur of the moment thing. He's a great friend.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)

69 48
Interestingly enough I may be very distantly related to Ma Barker.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

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That explains a lot.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:30 PM (cfSRQ)

70 Ma Barker was hot.

Posted by: The Guy Who Thinks Ma Barker Was Hot at May 10, 2020 07:30 PM (UNxyx)

71 No range report but my Garand came. I am ... pleased.

I've only got to shoot one Garand, but I instantly fell in love. What a great rifle. Easy to see how that helped us win WWII. Those pictures show that yours is in really good shape. Congratulations.

Posted by: An Observation at May 10, 2020 07:30 PM (oL9F3)

72 Just a leeeeetle short...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:27 PM (NWiLs)
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You've been back to work, what, a month?

So, after next month, yes?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:31 PM (WEBkv)

73 There used to be an "Iron Fist" rule.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 10, 2020 07:31 PM (lwiT4)

74 63
Howdy gunslingers...

Any of you not already familiar with Paul Harrell on YT. He recently
posted a FAQ video in recognition of surpassing 500K followers. His
Shasta Soda commercial had me LOL.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (BaHwF)

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I like Paul because he validated all my previous opinions, especially including the excellence of the Beretta CX4 Storm.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:31 PM (cfSRQ)

75 Your tractor is really clean! I love it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (7bcfy)

76 If you really don't want your phone to advertise your whereabouts...
https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

(No I don't own one, nor do I get money from them.)

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (kp35W)

77 I've been dry firing my 1911 for the last hour or so. Haven't missed yet.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (6X9zF)

78
Ma Barker as some kind of criminal mastermind was likely made up by the FBI to cover up shooting an innocent woman. One of the Barker gang said Ma "couldn't organize breakfast."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (zlkwr)

79 Insom, I'm distantly related to Carla Bruni.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (cgIyZ)

80 65 Weasel and / or any reloaders.... what is the best source to find the ballistic coefficient of a bullet? I checked a couple manufacturers sites and they seem inconsistent. Hornady displays mostly G1, sometimes G7 too; others don't tell you which they are showing...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (0ReGO)
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Manufacturers either might not know or don't want to publish their data. There are a number of online sources but if you get stuck drop me an email.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (oGne4)

81 If I'm on the jury, with those facts I'm voting not guilty.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 10, 2020 07:26 PM (r6GXX)

Regardless of what the old guy told him, he did sign the liability waiver that stated that tracer ammo was prohibited. I know it's in there because I signed the same waiver.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (VNmG1)

82 77 I've been dry firing my 1911 for the last hour or so. Haven't missed yet.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (6X9zF)

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Use hand lotion.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (UNxyx)

83 Ma Barker as some kind of criminal mastermind was likely made up by the FBI to cover up shooting an innocent woman. One of the Barker gang said Ma "couldn't organize breakfast."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (zlkwr)
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She was shot? I thought she was burned and blown up when the cops dropped a bomb down the chimney.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (WEBkv)

84 -
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asked the old guy behind the counter if he could fire tracer rounds with it. Old guy told him yeah. ...

Young kid, arrested for felony arson. I hope he enjoyed shooting the last firearm he'll ever posses, legally.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:17 PM

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Used to be a law and order guy. I don't think, as a jury member, I now will ever vote to convict unless I see evil intent. I am done with "breaking the law".

Posted by: irright at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (RVcmP)

85 You've been back to work, what, a month?

So, after next month, yes?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:31 PM (WEBkv)

Maybe a just a bit longer than that...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (NWiLs)

86 I kind of don't get the 9mm as a dominant ammo platform. From an objective standpoint, just look at it: it's weirdly symmetrical. (relatively) small charge, small slug. The .38 seems superior, and the .357 seems vastly superior for a "stopping" weapon. Maybe I'm over, or under thinking this. I'd be curious what y'all takes are.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (7Fj9P)

87 15 ... redc1c4,

Is the Contender pistol or rifle? And what caliber are the barrels? I love Contenders and have some from first generation.

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (7EjX1)

88
So basically you need about $35,000++ just laying around to have a fully automatic weapon... legally. Ridiculous !!!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (UUBmN)

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Some are cheaper than others. It's like anything else.

I imagine ammo costs are pretty ferocious though.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (cfSRQ)

89 67 Another great video Weasel
Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 07:28 PM (ZCEU2)
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Thanks Skip!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (oGne4)

90 Little known fact-Ma Barker was really Pa Barker. Yep.

Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (XhWtx)

91 79 Insom, I'm distantly related to Carla Bruni.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (cgIyZ)

You win.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (NWiLs)

92 75 Your tractor is really clean! I love it.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 10, 2020 07:32 PM (7bcfy)
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Hi CaliGirl! Would you believe it's a '99 with less than 350 hours?

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:35 PM (oGne4)

93 Ola. Ca va?
Ahh Webleys. A good mate of mine brought one at auction .455 cal. We both looked at it before he brought it and I thought it was a nice, good to average condition one as most are, looks like everything is working. Did my armourer without tools look over and said he should buy it. Took it to the range a few days later, new factory ammo, loaded the cylinder and click. Try again, click. WTF? Some mincer had filed the spur of the firing pin on the hammer so it would just fail to protrude and hit the primer. The profile was correct and looked normal except it was about 2mm lower in profile than it should had been. As the firing pin is a part of the hammer on that model, I had to build and shape up the firing pin to spec so it would fire. Of course it was all my fault. Grrrrr.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 07:35 PM (bgJ0E)

94 Little known fact-Ma Barker was really Pa Barker. Yep.
Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (XhWtx)

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Are you saying Ma Barker had a dick?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 10, 2020 07:35 PM (UNxyx)

95 Ditto's on the video, Weasel.

And WeaselDog at the end is a nice touch.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:35 PM (WEBkv)

96 Forgot the link to Mr. Harrell's FAQ: https://youtu.be/jCmt5OgA48g

Posted by: Average Guy at May 10, 2020 07:36 PM (BaHwF)

97 Cuz I believe it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 10, 2020 07:36 PM (UNxyx)

98 I believe that tractor has less than 350hrs... it looks pristine and I wonder if you only use it to get to your range!

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 10, 2020 07:36 PM (kp35W)

99 I'm a ma, too!
Posted by: Ma Kettle
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Don't get catty.

Posted by: Mahjong at May 10, 2020 07:37 PM (X22L5)

100 98 I believe that tractor has less than 350hrs... it looks pristine and I wonder if you only use it to get to your range!
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 10, 2020 07:36 PM (kp35W)

He only drove it the one time to make the intro.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

101 Geoff - If you are lurking tonight, THANK YOU for sharing your MP5. I had the opportunity to fire an Uzi when in Colombia Yes, they DO climb.

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:37 PM (DVaS/)

102 Thanks Weasel!! I will poke around and see what I can find...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2020 07:37 PM (0ReGO)

103 86
I kind of don't get the 9mm as a dominant ammo platform. From an
objective standpoint, just look at it: it's weirdly symmetrical.
(relatively) small charge, small slug. The .38 seems superior, and the
.357 seems vastly superior for a "stopping" weapon. Maybe I'm over, or
under thinking this. I'd be curious what y'all takes are.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (7Fj9P)

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It gets the job done more often than not.

What is interesting to me is how much calibers have increased over the last century.

A number of countries went to war in 1914 with what we call "mouse guns" today. They must not have been useless because the same countries kept those calibers after the war.

Maybe "stopping power" is kind of a load of crap.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:38 PM (cfSRQ)

104 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:35 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks! She's the star of the show!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:38 PM (oGne4)

105
Now WeaselDog, she could be the head of something.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2020 07:38 PM (zlkwr)

106
Ma Barker reminds me of Emil's landlady in the Dragnet movie. That was an R. Lee Ermey tirade she let loose, but never once actually swore.

Posted by: Gooshy at May 10, 2020 07:38 PM (taKIf)

107 Regardless of what the old guy told him, he did sign the liability waiver that stated that tracer ammo was prohibited. I know it's in there because I signed the same waiver.
Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM

I'd find him liable for the destruction. I just wouldn't convict him on a criminal charge of felony arson, assuming he can prove the old guy said it was ok)

Posted by: Chuck C at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (r6GXX)

108 I've fired both the MP5 and the Uzi in full auto. Both are great, but the sleekness and cycle rate of the MP5 just can't be beat.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (NWiLs)

109 I never got to shoot anything compact on full auto, but I did get to shoot the M60 and 50 cal. The M60 was on a tripod and the 50 cal. was mounted on the side of the ship, so I didn't feel the recoil.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (xfb67)

110 Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 10, 2020 07:36 PM (kp35W)
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I mow the road with it and trim back vegetation with a sickle bar but that's about it. I love that tractor.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:40 PM (oGne4)

111 H&K makes great firearms.....expensive but great.

The only thing "H&K" I own is a Century C93 which is made from parts resourced from H&K 93's which were in service then sold from Malaysia I believe. Semi-auto rifle in 5.56mm.

Good shooter, even more accurate than my AR's, but the ergonomics are not up to par with an AR when it comes to magazine changes, charging the rifle and no bolt hold open after the last round.

The roller delayed blowback system runs and runs. Cleaning is a bitch around the chamber but the rifle's system doesn't mind the carbon build up at all and will just flat out shoot as the rest of the rifle stays very clean even after hundreds of rounds.

H&K Slap FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 07:40 PM (Z+IKu)

112 108
I've fired both the MP5 and the Uzi in full auto. Both are great, but
the sleekness and cycle rate of the MP5 just can't be beat.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (NWiLs)

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I hate you.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:40 PM (cfSRQ)

113 Posted by: Bama Bubba at May 10, 2020 07:15 PM (mAxkE)

The cage should be grounded, which a microwave would be.

Posted by: clutch at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (9UmRs)

114 "Would you believe it's a '99 with less than 350 hours?"

Only driven on Sundays by a little old lady to go to church.

Posted by: Mr Haney at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (Tnijr)

115 Hi CaliGirl! Would you believe it's a '99 with less than 350 hours?
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:35 PM (oGne4)
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Saw an article stating that older farm equipment is fetching a premium price, because of all the computer controls on the newer stuff.

From what I remember, farmers need to be able to keep their stuff running, and can't afford to wait for a mechanic to show up.

So, farmers hit auctions, buy older equipment, repair or rebuild and keep going.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (WEBkv)

116 50 Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:19 PM (DVaS/)
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Howdy neighbor! We'll need pics of the 1911!
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Next week, if I'm in my new place! And I gotta make it McGyver friendly, by which I mean places for the fluffies I brought and the fluffy parts and food and my Motorcycle and my fish rod and my canoe and and and

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (DVaS/)

117 102 Thanks Weasel!! I will poke around and see what I can find...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2020 07:37 PM (0ReGO)
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Or just email! I have a ton of resources here.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (oGne4)

118 I'd stand behind lin-duh, Helena Handbasket and Steck any day.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:42 PM (cgIyZ)

119 My range, which is inside the Addicks reservoir to the west of Houston - near Katy, is open.

Actually got to eat a chopped beef stuffed baked potato with butter cheese and sour cream, inside a BBQ restaurant near the range before I shot Wednesday. Sure felt good to sit down inside a restaurant.

15 - 25 mph cross wind was blowing my .22lr rounds 1.5 to 2.5 mils left of my aim point at 100 yards. Call it 5.5" - 9" of wind drift.

Posted by: An Observation at May 10, 2020 07:42 PM (oL9F3)

120 105
Now WeaselDog, she could be the head of something.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2020 07:38 PM (zlkwr)
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She runs the house!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:42 PM (oGne4)

121 Maybe "stopping power" is kind of a load of crap.
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Yes, I agree, stopping power is crap. Esp. for military weapons. Small caliber, high velocity rounds are the way to go. Causalities are more important than fatalities. (See also: AR 15). It just seems like 9 mm is neither.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 10, 2020 07:43 PM (7Fj9P)

122 112 108
I've fired both the MP5 and the Uzi in full auto. Both are great, but
the sleekness and cycle rate of the MP5 just can't be beat.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (NWiLs)

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I hate you.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:40 PM (cfSRQ)

Don't hate the playah, hate the game!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:43 PM (NWiLs)

123 Did I mention I've shot the full-auto G36 as well?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM (NWiLs)

124 I'd find him liable for the destruction. I just
wouldn't convict him on a criminal charge of felony arson, assuming he
can prove the old guy said it was ok)

Posted by: Chuck C at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (r6GXX)

We're talking past each other. The old guy that told him he could fire tracer rounds was the guy who sold him the gun at the pawn shop, not the range. If he would have asked at the range, he would have been told not no, but hell no.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM (VNmG1)

125 108 I've fired both the MP5 and the Uzi in full auto. Both are great, but the sleekness and cycle rate of the MP5 just can't be beat.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:39 PM (NWiLs)
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Geoff owns the Uzi i shoot at the farm too. The MP5 is very smooth by comparison.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM (oGne4)

126 I have 3 guys a week stop in and want my tractor for just that reason.

1963 Ford 3000, diesel.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM (cgIyZ)

127 111
HK makes great firearms.....expensive but great.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 07:40 PM (Z+IKu)

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Not long ago a friend of mine told me that .40s were now out of fashion. They were hot hot hot in the 90s, but everyone was going back to 9mm.

Which meant if I wanted an HK...getting it in .40 was the way to go.

He was right.

With all the panic-buying, I'm amused to note that the ONE caliber that is still plentiful is....40. I keep going back to Stock and Field and they've always got more. For a while it was .40, .380 (?!) and .22, but the .380 is gone, .22 is dwindling, but the .40 trundles on. So I buy some each week, 'cause it's there.

I'm thinking of getting a .40 carbine. I bet that would absolutely kick ass.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:45 PM (cfSRQ)

128 I kind of don't get the 9mm as a dominant ammo platform. From an objective standpoint, just look at it: it's weirdly symmetrical. (relatively) small charge, small slug. The .38 seems superior, and the .357 seems vastly superior for a "stopping" weapon. Maybe I'm over, or under thinking this. I'd be curious what y'all takes are.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (7Fj9P)
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It isn't about "stopping power" it's about ability to put rounds on target.

One should buy the gun one is willing to put in the range time with and find out if one can hit the target and if the firearm is reliable.

454 Casull has all the "stopping power" in the world, but I highly doubt one would want to put in the range time needed to become proficient.

I would hasten to add, this is my .02 and we know how much that will buy these days.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:46 PM (WEBkv)

129
Saw an article stating that older farm equipment is fetching a premium price, because of all the computer controls on the newer stuff.

From what I remember, farmers need to be able to keep their stuff running, and can't afford to wait for a mechanic to show up.

So, farmers hit auctions, buy older equipment, repair or rebuild and keep going.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (WEBkv)
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Makes sense. That was Ben Had's advice to me when I was tractor shopping.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:46 PM (oGne4)

130 Grammy Winger - Iron Fist died of cancer, it'll be three years this July. His widow, went as Mafia Princess, is doing as well as can be expected and healing, tho the fact that those two found each other still makes me shake my head and laugh

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:46 PM (DVaS/)

131 The cage should be grounded, which a microwave would be.
Posted by: clutch at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (9UmRs)

Good point. Non-grounded faraday cages will hold a charge and should be discharged before opening.

Posted by: Bama Bubba at May 10, 2020 07:47 PM (mAxkE)

132 ...yeah but what does Carla Bruni know about horses??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2020 07:47 PM (0ReGO)

133 The M16's I trained on didn't even have full auto. Just semi and 3-shot burst. My boat had some old M16A1's that had full auto, but they only ever let us shoot them in semi.

Let me tell you, submarine crew firearms training sessions are terrifying.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:47 PM (xfb67)

134
The whole idea of wounding the enemy vs. killing him only worked when the enemy cared about their wounded.
Now, we still have to care for the wounded... both sides.
I think that idea is being looked at in War College planning.
It's self defeating against most battle enemies we've been against in the last 30 years/

Posted by: MarkY at May 10, 2020 07:48 PM (2Vn19)

135
Only driven on Sundays by a little old lady to go to church.
Posted by: Mr Haney at May 10, 2020 07:41 PM (Tnijr)
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That's what they said!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:48 PM (oGne4)

136 Evening, gunnies!

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 07:48 PM (RSwMY)

137 Only Americans and brits considered pistols as a battle weapon. The rest acted like it was some sort of swagger srick.

Well, the Spanish too, but they allowed private purchase from specific models. And like the Americans they had been in the Philippines too

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2020 07:48 PM (0TbLI)

138 Grammy Winger - Iron Fist died of cancer, it'll be
three years this July. His widow, went as Mafia Princess, is doing as
well as can be expected and healing, tho the fact that those two found
each other still makes me shake my head and laugh

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:46 PM (DVaS/)

Thank you for the update. I remember them both. I'm saddened at his passing. It sounds like Mafia Princess is holding up well, God bless her. Where do the years go? Thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 10, 2020 07:49 PM (lwiT4)

139 There used to be an "Iron Fist" rule.

Grammy - Yep. If you think you are too drunk to post, you ARE too drunk to post

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:49 PM (DVaS/)

140 I think it was the Untouchables episode with Ma Barker getting shot up in the house at the end...made an impression on a young Boswell, I don't mind telling you...

Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (32YRo)

141 Only Americans and brits considered pistols as a battle weapon. The rest acted like it was some sort of swagger srick.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2020 07:48 PM (0TbLI)
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Sgt. York might have something to say on the subject.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

142 We're talking past each other. The old guy that told
him he could fire tracer rounds was the guy who sold him the gun at the
pawn shop, not the range. If he would have asked at the range, he would
have been told not no, but hell no.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM (VNmG1)

Not talking past you at all. Don't care who said what. When the prosecutors kid, the judges kid, the cops kid, is facing the same charge, I'll think about voting to convict but since we all know that none of those people will ever make it trial based on a felony, that will never happen.

Posted by: Not Guilty at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (/LQkF)

143 There used to be an "Iron Fist" rule.

Grammy - Yep. If you think you are too drunk to post, you ARE too drunk to post

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 07:49 PM (DVaS/)

Here that would be The Blazer Rule.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (yQpMk)

144 Helena Handbasket- she can rock a pair of jodphurs?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (cgIyZ)

145 About the faraday cage for the phone
Author Hans Schantz suggested using and empty foil potato chip bag. Ubiquitous, Cheap and easy to explain. I dont know if it is effective but that is another question....

Posted by: Dread0 at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (thwGF)

146 It isn't about "stopping power" it's about ability to put rounds on target.

One should buy the gun one is willing to put in the range time with
and find out if one can hit the target and if the firearm is reliable.

454 Casull has all the "stopping power" in the world, but I highly
doubt one would want to put in the range time needed to become
proficient.

I would hasten to add, this is my .02 and we know how much that will buy these days.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
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Another factor is the ease of manufacture and the prevalence of the machinery to do it.

The Germans made 9mm Luger a thing. The US didn't use it, the French didn't use it and the Brits didn't use it, but the rest of Europe got on board and because the British haven't designed a useful handgun since the 19th Century, they hopped on the bandwagon.

NATO commonality eventually won out, and it became the standard.

It's not a bad round by any means, and we can't cry too hard about it because John Browning started building the Hi Power around it.

If it was okay with him, it's okay with me.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:51 PM (cfSRQ)

147 Wow, lotta content and comments to catch up on. Or for the pedants, on which to catch up.

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 07:51 PM (RSwMY)

148 Yes. Getting the registered sear is ungodly expensive due to unconstitutional federal firearms laws.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:25 PM (NWiLs)

Yup....at least repeal the Hughes Amendment and allow post 1986 manufactured "machine guns" be sold to those who desire them.

But whom am I kidding, the FOPA/NFA/GCA are all bullshit and should be abolished.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 07:51 PM (Z+IKu)

149 I DID go to the range yesterday, and for the first time in months, it was busy. Glad to see it. Warm weather is getting people outside despite The Fear.

But on to shooting: I was using the CZ p-07 again and....it is SUCH a great pistol. I used the Kadet adapter after last week's attempted kaboom. Using Federal copper washed ammo, had no problems, two light strikes that failed to fire in single action but did fire when I pulled the trigger again in double action. Good aimed groups this week, unaimed groups were...different.

I'll explain: this week's main drill was to start out with the pistol loaded and laying on the firing platform, facing away from the target. On command, turn and fire three rounds. Repeat 3x. Distance was 5 yards. The goals were to: get faster, get some movement into our drills, practice triple taps instead of double taps.

I tell ya, when muscle memory wants you to go 'bang-bang', forcing yourself to go 'bang-bang-bang' instead is not easy. Still, it was fun. Groups were not as good but got better the more we practiced.

The other drill was shooting two rounds at 1" dots at 3 yards. That went ok, too.

Adding movement, of the gun or the body or both, really opens up groups but none of the paper targets made it home alive.

A good day at the range.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 10, 2020 07:52 PM (d1uFV)

150 But whom am I kidding, the FOPA/NFA/GCA are all bullshit and should be abolished.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 07:51 PM (Z+IKu)

Yep. It'll never happen, though.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 07:52 PM (NWiLs)

151 147 Wow, lotta content and comments to catch up on. Or for the pedants, on which to catch up.
Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 07:51 PM (RSwMY)
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Howdy Amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:52 PM (oGne4)

152 Let me tell you, submarine crew firearms training sessions are terrifying.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:47 PM (xfb67)

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I didn't know submarines had firing ranges in there! That must have one heck of an air filter.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:53 PM (cfSRQ)

153 The other drill was shooting two rounds at 1" dots at 3 yards. That went ok, too.

Adding movement, of the gun or the body or both, really opens up groups but none of the paper targets made it home alive.

A good day at the range.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 10, 2020 07:52 PM (d1uFV)
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That sounds like a ton of fun.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 07:54 PM (WEBkv)

154 We're talking past each other. The old guy that told him he could fire tracer rounds was the guy who sold him the gun at the pawn shop, not the range. If he would have asked at the range, he would have been told not no, but hell no.
Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM

Got it. I read it as "old guy at the counter at the range said it was ok" and "So the kid loads up his mags with tracer rounds and heads to the range" as "loads up and heads to the shooting stall"

Posted by: Chuck C at May 10, 2020 07:54 PM (r6GXX)

155 When I decided to get a suppressor for my Ruger SR-22 I went through the whole "tax stamp" process. It used to take a year or more, but when I bought mine I had the hardware in my hands in about 4 months.

I'm seriously thinking about a full auto AR platform, or perhaps an AK. I'm willing to wait... assuming I find what I want. That's the key IMO, being willing to wait for months on end for the wheels to turn.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 10, 2020 07:55 PM (3H9h1)

156 So basically you need about $35,000++ just laying around to have a fully automatic weapon... legally. Ridiculous !!!

As I have said before there is a man who owns a complete Vietnam era Cobra helicopter gunship, including the minigun which will fire 6000 rounds of 7.62 X 51 NATO per minute, and the servo helmet which allows the rear seat gunner to aim the minigun simply by turning his head to look at the target.

Saw one of those Cobra's in action just outside our wire one night in Long Binh. Not enough left of the enemy patrol the next morning to identify anything as human.

Posted by: An Observation at May 10, 2020 07:55 PM (oL9F3)

157 Mark Andrew Edwards, that is so cool. I love the whole idea of move and shoot.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (cgIyZ)

158 at least repeal the Hughes Amendment

For twenty years I wrote my Congressmen and Senators every year asking for that one amendment to be repealed and got de nada done, even from Jeff Sessions. If they would repeal it, you could turn your AK into a full auto for $200 and an hour of work. Two hours if you had to weld a nub on the boltcarrier.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (yQpMk)

159 We went to a range on base and just shot our Berettas, M16s, and Remington 870's for "familiarization".

It was supposed to be annually, but it never was. After all the drops, burns from the shotgun barrels, and unintentional sweeps of the crowd with a loaded weapon, everyone was relived when it was over.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (xfb67)

160 A raised glass to pistol packing Mama's everywhere.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:57 PM (cgIyZ)

161
1963 Ford 3000, diesel.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:44 PM (cgIyZ)

Make it 4

Posted by: clutch at May 10, 2020 07:57 PM (9UmRs)

162 Well, family obligations beckon.

Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:57 PM (cfSRQ)

163 160 A raised glass to pistol packing Mama's everywhere.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:57 PM (cgIyZ)
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*clink*

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:57 PM (oGne4)

164 I got my new Bushnell Engage mounted up and put a hundred rounds through it. It's a wonderful scope, it's MOA and I'm Moa. I think in yards and shoot fixed distances. Now I'm waiting on a SWFA that should arrive this week, I ordered it in MOA too. Now I'll have two good scopes, one on a 308 and one on a 223. I love it.

Posted by: ck at May 10, 2020 07:58 PM (Gf0Po)

165 I'd stand behind lin-duh, Helena Handbasket and Steck any day.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Thanks Ben, but I'm the weakest link in this equation.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 07:58 PM (UUBmN)

166 Little known fact-Ma Barker was really Pa Barker. Yep.
Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (XhWtx)

Really? Just damn......now I have to find out.

Thanks Eromero!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 07:59 PM (Z+IKu)

167 162 Well, family obligations beckon.

Thanks again, Weasel!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 10, 2020 07:57 PM (cfSRQ)
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Thank you as always, AHL!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07:59 PM (oGne4)

168 clutch. my mechanic can rebuild an injection pump so I"m good for a looong time.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:00 PM (cgIyZ)

169 ----
Thanks Ben, but I'm the weakest link in this equation.
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 07:58 PM (UUBmN)
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Nah, I've seen you shoot!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:00 PM (oGne4)

170 It was supposed to be annually, but it never was. After all the drops, burns from the shotgun barrels, and unintentional sweeps of the crowd with a loaded weapon, everyone was relived when it was over.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (xfb67)
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The range I frequent, I always watch the firing line before I got sign up.

Twice I've gone home without firing a shot, because I've seen stupid stuff like a guy turn and talk to his guy he was with, firearm pointed right the belly of his buddy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 08:00 PM (WEBkv)

171 Let me tell you, submarine crew firearms training sessions are terrifying.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:47 PM (xfb67)

Bubbleheads shot the M16? I was never in that community but us skimmers got the M14 - a superior, if maybe too heavy, semi-auto weapon that had fantastic on target accuracy. And when I first got in, the John Wayner was the side pistol and the airdales got the 6" .38...a very nice weapon in the field, I have heard.

Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 08:00 PM (32YRo)

172 164 I got my new Bushnell Engage mounted up and put a hundred rounds through it. It's a wonderful scope, it's MOA and I'm Moa. I think in yards and shoot fixed distances. Now I'm waiting on a SWFA that should arrive this week, I ordered it in MOA too. Now I'll have two good scopes, one on a 308 and one on a 223. I love it.
Posted by: ck at May 10, 2020 07:58 PM (Gf0Po)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:01 PM (oGne4)

173 But whom am I kidding, the FOPA/NFA/GCA are all bullshit and should be abolished.

There is no chance any of that crap is Constitutional.

Posted by: An Observation at May 10, 2020 08:01 PM (oL9F3)

174 Not talking past you at all. Don't care who said what. When the prosecutors kid, the judges kid, the cops kid, is facing the same charge, I'll think about voting to convict but since we all know that none of those people will ever make it trial based on a felony, that will never happen.
Posted by: Not Guilty at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM

Add to that all the hardened criminals being let out in blue states.

Posted by: clutch at May 10, 2020 08:02 PM (9UmRs)

175 OK, a hearty Gun Thread Welcome to Lurker Geoff!
Now, back to content.

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:02 PM (RSwMY)

176 157 Mark Andrew Edwards, that is so cool. I love the whole idea of move and shoot.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (cgIyZ)

I think next week, we'll try moving between shooting stations and shooting. Can't carry the gun between stations, so it'll have to be 'fire from table' again but any movement is better than just standing Weaver for an hour.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 10, 2020 08:02 PM (d1uFV)

177 Weasel, lin-duh's forgotten we have seen her shoot.

My apologies for missing Mrs. E on that list also.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:03 PM (cgIyZ)

178 Weasel long ago when my wife's uncle was alive and big into the Pa Grange we went to the fair yearly. There were hundreds of tractors from 1930s on up still running and often used daily there .

Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 08:03 PM (ZCEU2)

179
I think next week, we'll try moving between shooting stations and shooting. Can't carry the gun between stations, so it'll have to be 'fire from table' again but any movement is better than just standing Weaver for an hour.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 10, 2020 08:02 PM (d1uFV)
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YES!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:03 PM (oGne4)

180 MA!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 10, 2020 08:04 PM (Ndje9)

181 You want a laugh?

Search for "Coat Hanger Machine Gun" about the gun maker who made a drop in auto sear for semi auto AR's out of a......coat hanger.

Even registered it too.

Good info for the end times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 08:04 PM (Z+IKu)

182 177 Weasel, lin-duh's forgotten we have seen her shoot.

My apologies for missing Mrs. E on that list also.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:03 PM (cgIyZ)
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Yep!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:05 PM (oGne4)

183 OH crap, brain fog- Nurse ratched.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:05 PM (cgIyZ)

184 Ya know the pistol I'd like to add to my collection? .38 S&W Model 15 like I wore in my flight vest for half my career, until the M9 came along.

But I can't find one, at least not marked USAF

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (DVaS/)

185 Well, time to wander,

Ya'll behave!

45 acp rules!

*runs away laughing*

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (WEBkv)

186 178 Weasel long ago when my wife's uncle was alive and big into the Pa Grange we went to the fair yearly. There were hundreds of tractors from 1930s on up still running and often used daily there .
Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2020 08:03 PM (ZCEU2)
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Very cool. I really love just driving it around.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (oGne4)

187 168 clutch. my mechanic can rebuild an injection pump so I"m good for a looong time.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:00 PM

I can do that, too. I'm a gonna get that tractor.

Posted by: clutch at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (9UmRs)

188 Yeah, Weasel's Gun Thread! Great post as always, sir. Took your advice, I have a SGAmmo delivery coming tomorrow.

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (zUdXR)

189 Is the Contender pistol or rifle? And what caliber are the barrels? I love Contenders and have some from first generation.

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 07:34 PM (7EjX1)

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pistol configuration

not sure about the barrels, but one is .223.

i'll know when i bring them home the day i DROS it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (dlZr1)

190 Howdy Weasel. Thanks for another fine gun thread.
Howdy fellow Gun Cranks.
Welcome Geoff!! Nice demonstration, welcome to the horde.
No shooting this week, the daggone weather failed to cooperate with the time available to invade Vuhginia. Maybe this coming week.
Still preparing to re-secure the front sight on my 1911. This gun, long before I got it had been turned into a "Target Pistol" The rear sight is the same as a 1963 National Match pistol, but the front is an idaknowwhat. Shoots great though, and I am glad I didn't launch it. I have collected up all the tools and info needed, just have to grit my teeth and DO it...Wish me luck.

Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 10, 2020 08:07 PM (ouR/N)

191 Jah, the Nurse is a damn fine shot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 10, 2020 08:07 PM (d1uFV)

192
183 OH crap, brain fog- Nurse ratched.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:05 PM (cgIyZ)
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And my good friend Ben Had!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:07 PM (oGne4)

193 OH crap, brain fog- Nurse ratched.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:05 PM (cgIyZ)

Heh...I saw "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" last night for the first time, having read the Ken Kesey novel in high school. It wasn't bad compared to the book, and I get the edits.

And our nurse ratchet ain't nothing like that!

Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 08:08 PM (32YRo)

194 Weasel
As far as old tractors there's a group where I am called the Ancient Iron Club.
Old and antique farm equipment of all kinds. One guy brought his two Maserati tractors to a show.
There's an annual meet and display. Lots of fun. I haven't heard if the Flu Manchu is going to mess it up this year yet.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 10, 2020 08:09 PM (WFAUg)

195 Let me tell you, submarine crew firearms training sessions are terrifying.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:47 PM (xfb67)

Insert general staff police for submarine crew and that is a true statement. The useless scum.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:09 PM (bgJ0E)

196 Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 10, 2020 08:07 PM (ouR/N)
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My pleasure, JiDC. Send pictures!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:09 PM (oGne4)

197 194 Weasel
As far as old tractors there's a group where I am called the Ancient Iron Club.
Old and antique farm equipment of all kinds. One guy brought his two Maserati tractors to a show.
There's an annual meet and display. Lots of fun. I haven't heard if the Flu Manchu is going to mess it up this year yet.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 10, 2020 08:09 PM (WFAUg)
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Very cool. I guess since it's a '99 mine is an antique now.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (oGne4)

198 Weasel, I have no guns but I'm hell on wheels with a slingshot.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (cgIyZ)

199 >>>Ya know the pistol I'd like to add to my collection? .38 S&W Model 15 like I wore in my flight vest for half my career, until the M9 came along.

Ha - Horde mind - see 171

Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 08:11 PM (32YRo)

200 ThanX! again, Weasel for the thread and all the content. Must sign off -- time to call the wife and tell her I'm still ok (mothers day and all that) L8Tr all

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 08:11 PM (DVaS/)

201 184 ... "Ya know the pistol I'd like to add to my collection? .38 S&W Model 15 like I wore in my flight vest for half my career, until the M9 came along."

McGyver,

A K-frame 38 special is a joy not to be missed.

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 08:11 PM (7EjX1)

202 198 Weasel, I have no guns but I'm hell on wheels with a slingshot.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (cgIyZ)
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I wouldn't want to make you mad!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:12 PM (oGne4)

203 About the faraday cage for the phone
Author Hans Schantz suggested using and empty foil potato chip bag. Ubiquitous, Cheap and easy to explain. I dont know if it is effective but that is another question....
Posted by: Dread0

OPSEC, like Field Artillery, is king of the battle.

Now that we all know we can sew a damned mask, make your own faraday cell phone case.

1. Steel window screen. Lay out a pattern like two rectangles connected at the narrow edge. One is about 3" longer then the other to make a top flap to tuck inside and complete the cage.

2. FLANNEL lining. This keeps the cell phone from getting scratched. Cut it out slightly
Larger than the screen.

3. Purty outer lining. Dealers choice. Same size as the flannel liner.

4. Fold the three rectangles together, putty side in with the screen sandwiched between the two clothes. Leave the three in flap out.

5. Stitch all three together with the screen in the middle.

6. Invert, (turn it right-side out so the putty side is exposed) insert cell phone. Tuck in flap, ensuring flap covers the top of the phone. Test, by attempting to call the cell phone.

If the phone rings, monkey with the flap size and length until it doesn't. Mine worked first try.

Johnny Law only sees a purty cell phone purse. F*ck him.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 10, 2020 08:12 PM (VcFUs)

204 Posted by: McGyver at May 10, 2020 08:11 PM (DVaS/)
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My pleasure, McGyver. 'Night!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:13 PM (oGne4)

205
A K-frame 38 special is a joy not to be missed.
Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 08:11 PM (7EjX1)
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Yessir!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:14 PM (oGne4)

206 188 Yeah, Weasel's Gun Thread! Great post as always, sir. Took your advice, I have a SGAmmo delivery coming tomorrow.
Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM (zUdXR)
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Good job! And thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:15 PM (oGne4)

207 Anyone have an opinion on the Winchester model 70? Preferably in 300 win mag

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (1MB+d)

208 Weasel, nothing you could do on the face of this earth would ever make me even perturbed.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (cgIyZ)

209 Why don't you have guns Ben Had?? I always assumed you did...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (UUBmN)

210
Johnny Law only sees a purty cell phone purse. F*ck him.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 10, 2020 08:12 PM (VcFUs)

Nice. All my battle prep involves me leaving the cellphone (or govt tracking device) at home as I carry out my master plan.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (bgJ0E)

211 Ma Barker kinda looked like a more masculine Charles Johnson.

Posted by: rctmnrlyklldm at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (fCkwS)

212 Maybe "stopping power" is kind of a load of crap.

In 1900 there was a professional hunter in Africa who demonstrated that he could kill a bull elephant with a single shot from a .22. Of course the downside of that was that he needed an entire crew of bearers to carry his giant brass balls around.

Posted by: An Observation at May 10, 2020 08:17 PM (oL9F3)

213 207 Anyone have an opinion on the Winchester model 70? Preferably in 300 win mag
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (1MB+d)

Yes.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:17 PM (bgJ0E)

214 208 Weasel, nothing you could do on the face of this earth would ever make me even perturbed.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM (cgIyZ)
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{{{Ben Had}}}

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:17 PM (oGne4)

215 189 ... redc1c4,
Thanks for the info. Let us know what the other calibers are when you get them. BTW, Contenders are a handloaders dream, if that is a factor. I have about 8 or 9 calibers for mine. Total fun, easy to maintain, and accurate. And you can't blow through your ammo too quickly.

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 08:18 PM (7EjX1)

216 Late to the party, but Ma Barker's picture reminded me of a quote attributed to a contemporary of hers, entrepreneur and socialite Alphonse Capone:

"You can get a lot farther with a smile and a gun than you can with just a smile."

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 10, 2020 08:18 PM (bAe71)

217 pistol configuration
not sure about the barrels, but one is .223.
i'll know when i bring them home the day i DROS it.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 08:06 PM

If you're incredibly lucky, one of them will be .41 Mag.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 08:18 PM (DMUuz)

218 lin-duh, hush!

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:19 PM (cgIyZ)

219
"You can get a lot farther with a smile and a gun than you can with just a smile."
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 10, 2020 08:18 PM (bAe71)
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That's great!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:19 PM (oGne4)

220 Everyone wants Dad's H, but my favorite tractor of his is the 180 Massey. That Perkins engine is an absolute beast.

Posted by: jsg at May 10, 2020 08:20 PM (SrH+7)

221 Anyone have an opinion on the Winchester model 70? Preferably in 300 win mag
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM

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Yes.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:17 PM

Would pre-64 modify your opinion?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 08:21 PM (DMUuz)

222 220 Everyone wants Dad's H, but my favorite tractor of his is the 180 Massey. That Perkins engine is an absolute beast.
Posted by: jsg at May 10, 2020 08:20 PM (SrH+7)
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Ben Had and I have had this conversation a number of times:
You can get a lot of great thinking done on a tractor.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:21 PM (oGne4)

223 Oh, I forgot about that boating accident on the lake...sorry!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:22 PM (UUBmN)

224 Nice vid Weasel and Geoff. Automatic weapon or a tennis court? That would be a hard choice if I had an extra 30k to spend.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 10, 2020 08:23 PM (2DOZq)

225 197 194 Weasel
As far as old tractors there's a group where I am called the Ancient Iron Club.
Old and antique farm equipment of all kinds. One guy brought his two Maserati tractors to a show.
There's an annual meet and display. Lots of fun. I haven't heard if the Flu Manchu is going to mess it up this year yet.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 10, 2020 08:09 PM (WFAUg)
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Very cool. I guess since it's a '99 mine is an antique now.
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (oGne4)

You may not like the 2018 JD 6125M I'm going to jump into this afternoon as its a bit new,eh?

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)

226

Shelly Winters as Ma Parker

https://tinyurl.com/y7rht8tb

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2020 08:23 PM (aKsyK)

227 Automatic weapon or a tennis court? That would be a hard choice if I had an extra 30k to spend.
Posted by: Kilroy
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Well, like Geoff said the weapon will appreciate...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:24 PM (UUBmN)

228 Looks like Ma Barker was in fact a woman.

Ended up dying in a shootout in Florida.

Florida Woman FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 08:24 PM (Z+IKu)

229 224 Nice vid Weasel and Geoff. Automatic weapon or a tennis court? That would be a hard choice if I had an extra 30k to spend.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 10, 2020 08:23 PM (2DOZq)
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Thank you! Get the weapon and play tennis on the high school courts! Win-Win

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:24 PM (oGne4)

230 i just looked, and, for once, something was where i thought it was.

the Inglis HP has the CH serial number prefix, and, even better, the barrel, slide and frame serial numbers all match.

gotta love the 500 meter sights on a 9mm pistol.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 08:25 PM (dlZr1)

231 227 Automatic weapon or a tennis court? That would be a hard choice if I had an extra 30k to spend.
Posted by: Kilroy
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Well, like Geoff said the weapon will appreciate...
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:24 PM (UUBmN)

Tennis courts aren't easily portable either.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 08:25 PM (NWiLs)

232
Very cool. I guess since it's a '99 mine is an antique now.
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (oGne4)

You may not like the 2018 JD 6125M I'm going to jump into this afternoon as its a bit new,eh?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)
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Whippersnapper!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (oGne4)

233 Would pre-64 modify your opinion?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

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No, a new one.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (1MB+d)

234 Ben Had and I have had this conversation a number of times:
You can get a lot of great thinking done on a tractor.
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:21 PM (oGne4)

Yes,indeedy.

Posted by: jsg at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (SrH+7)

235 NZFrank, your repair guy is gonna love you. There will be no JD parts except from a JD dealer, ever.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (cgIyZ)

236 Used to be a law and order guy. I don't think, as a jury member, I now will ever vote to convict unless I see evil intent. I am done with "breaking the law".

Posted by: irright at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (RVcmP)

Problem is the sheer volume of laws and the fact that there's so much overlap. One action can get you charged with a dozen different offenses which all basically outlaw the same thing with varying degrees of vagueness.

And the federal criminal code takes dozens of feet of linear shelf space. Even the lawyers are only comfortable advising you on their own area of expertise. It's not reasonable to expect the average Joe to know what's illegal, and ignorance is a valid excuse for much of it.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 10, 2020 08:27 PM (wGeit)

237 RANGE REPORT:

None. Three inches of snow yesterday and cold 15 mph wind from the north today.
Went up top to the long range with my rangefinder, though. I wanted to log all the targets.
Battery died.

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:28 PM (RSwMY)

238 If you're incredibly lucky, one of them will be .41 Mag.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 08:18 PM (DMUuz)

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if not, i can buy one with my next PUA largess. i think i'll take pictures, print them out at Staples, and send them to Malig-Nancy's office, thanking her for all the new toys she paid for.

that should piss off the folks in her office that open her mail!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2020 08:28 PM (dlZr1)

239 If that Ma Barker was just 50 years younger. Sigh.

Posted by: Gropin' Uncle Joe Biden at May 10, 2020 08:28 PM (EgshT)

240 Weasel. You got all my favorite stuff (C96. Webley) which I have in the collection. I like the old stuff and not much of a fan of this new fangled tactical tupperware. Although I would not turn down that full auto MP 5, heh.

Thanks Weasel, great thread as usual.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM (cCxiu)

241 231 227 Automatic weapon or a tennis court? That would be a hard choice if I had an extra 30k to spend.
Posted by: Kilroy
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Well, like Geoff said the weapon will appreciate...
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:24 PM (UUBmN)

Tennis courts aren't easily portable either.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 08:25 PM (NWiLs)

Wouldn't be a hard choice at all for me.

The problem is that $30k is just the beginning if you actually want to shoot it. Ammo is expensive even if you're just sending it downrange in singles.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM (wGeit)

242 No, a new one.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM

Is the M-70 or the .300 Mag you prefer?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM (DMUuz)

243 221 Anyone have an opinion on the Winchester model 70? Preferably in 300 win mag
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:16 PM

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Yes.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:17 PM

Would pre-64 modify your opinion?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 08:21 PM (DMUuz)

I am ambivalent about them. Its just an action pre-64 or no. Only the three B's count. I have Winchesters over 100 years old including semis and they are nicely made but still a clunky 100 or so year old design.
The cult of the pre-64 is that, a cult. A Remington 700 does the same thing. Or most any other bolt gun.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM (bgJ0E)

244 NZFrank, your repair guy is gonna love you. There will be no JD parts except from a JD dealer, ever.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM

What are we, chopped liver?

;-

Posted by: JD firmware and software at May 10, 2020 08:31 PM (DMUuz)

245 240 Weasel. You got all my favorite stuff (C96. Webley) which I have in the collection. I like the old stuff and not much of a fan of this new fangled tactical tupperware. Although I would not turn down that full auto MP 5, heh.

Thanks Weasel, great thread as usual.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM (cCxiu)
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Thanks Walking Dude! The guns are A.H. Lloyd's though. He must have quite the interesting collection.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:31 PM (oGne4)

246 This week, I can say yes, I was at the range - just got back 30 minutes ago in fact.

Beautiful warm but not hot day. Two other ROs were leaving as I arrived, I was the sole person at the range (complex of 5 ranges). Other than the BLM ranger and the Border Patrol guys down near the entrance, no other humanoids.

The neutral news is that the specially loaded 30-06 for the M1 (each charge weighed) shot about the same as the "regular" reloads (46.5g of 4064, 150g FMJBT bullet - a standard ball load, on the light-ish side). So - now need to take the time to weigh charges.

In any case, once the 4064's gone probably switching to TAC, which is a flattened ball powder (I think) - anyway it meters like a ball handgun powder, so the variation in charges is slight vs. what I get from the 4064 (stick powder).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 08:31 PM (El6T/)

247 Used to cultivate cotton with a John Deere A. Get to the end of the rows, pick up the cultivator, spin the wheel with the suicide knob and stomp on whichever brake was on the side you were going to, and blammo you was headed back the way you came. never had to throttle back. Pop pop pop.

Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2020 08:32 PM (XhWtx)

248 235 NZFrank, your repair guy is gonna love you. There will be no JD parts except from a JD dealer, ever.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (cgIyZ)

Her Majesty loves me. And pays all the bills.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:32 PM (bgJ0E)

249 Made it to the range on Friday, to continue working up the wife's new AR. First visit was familiarization, this one was setup. Tuned the gas system, got the scope eye relief right, set up the cheek riser (took it off, actually), and positioned a hand stop and got the sling adjusted. Down to 2MOA, which is the limit of the Georgia Arms cheapo reloads being used. Next visit: Pass one, ammo customization, with six different bullet weights loaded over Varget.

I fired off a total of 11 rounds, to rezero my new AR (Vortex Tactical) scope after doing an eye relief tweak. Last four were touching at 25 yards, good to go for an Appleseed in a couple of weeks, COVID permitting.

Posted by: Pat*'s Hubby at May 10, 2020 08:32 PM (2pX/F)

250 I'm distantly related o Adam. AND Eve...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at May 10, 2020 08:32 PM (HuH1F)

251
The problem is that $30k is just the beginning if you actually want to shoot it. Ammo is expensive even if you're just sending it downrange in singles.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM (wGeit)
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They do process ammo efficiently.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:33 PM (oGne4)

252 Whippersnapper!
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (oGne4)

Yes. Yes I am. I'm only 12 on the inside.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:34 PM (bgJ0E)

253 RELOADING REPORT:

None. Lost the expander plug on my 6.5 CM die. Before I realized it I had a bunch of 6.5 brass sized to shoot 6.
But it did force me to order the proper full length sizer die with neck bushing. Arrived yesterday and works as advertised.

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (RSwMY)

254 NZFrank,
You still coming to the TXMoMe this fall?

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (UUBmN)

255 Since it's Ma Barker I looked up if there was a full auto BAR for sale / transfer. I saw one listed for a cool 54k. That would be what I'll get when I win the lottery. And a tennis court.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (2DOZq)

256
Her Majesty loves me. And pays all the bills.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:32 PM (bgJ0E)
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I need one of those!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (oGne4)

257 In the annoying news category, the elevation knob screw on this particular Garand has an issue - always comes loose. Will finally have to deal with it, it's been happening for a while. And of course I've forgotten how to diagnose and fix, so that means more time going back to the CMP forums and scrounging around for answers. IIRC it can be several things, including a stripped screw, or the adjustment of the windage knob on the other side of the sight, into which that screw, well, screws.

Other annoying gear news is both 15-round M1 carbine mags are now failing to properly load the 14th and 15th rounds - they jam at an angle upwards, above the chamber - so now I'll have to figure that out after more testing with dummy rounds.

Anyone ever have that problem? Main spring on the rifle? Springs in the mags (but they're almost new)?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (El6T/)

258 252 Whippersnapper!
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM (oGne4)

Yes. Yes I am. I'm only 12 on the inside.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:34 PM (bgJ0E)
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You and me both, brother!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:36 PM (oGne4)

259 that is a really informative video
thanks Geoff and Weasel!

Posted by: Stark on FarScape at May 10, 2020 08:36 PM (G546f)

260 I am ambivalent about them. Its just an action pre-64 or no. Only the three B's count. I have Winchesters over 100 years old including semis and they are nicely made but still a clunky 100 or so year old design.
The cult of the pre-64 is that, a cult. A Remington 700 does the same thing. Or most any other bolt gun.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:29 PM

I suspect we agree. There are many factory bolts I'd consider ahead of an M-70 these days, although my thoughts tend toward a custom these days.

I've always loved the pre-64 1894, but if I were looking for another lever action for serious use, again, there are others ahead of that today.

I've also lost enthusiasm for the .300 WinMag. I have one, and still load for it, but it's now pretty much a once-a-year-range-gun.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 08:37 PM (DMUuz)

261
None. Lost the expander plug on my 6.5 CM die. Before I realized it I had a bunch of 6.5 brass sized to shoot 6.
But it did force me to order the proper full length sizer die with neck bushing. Arrived yesterday and works as advertised.
Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (RSwMY)
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Good man.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:37 PM (oGne4)

262 I may not be related to Ma Baker but I know someone who knows someone, who knows someone, who knows someone, who knows someone, who knows someone who knows Kevin Bacon.

Posted by: boomers remember stuff at May 10, 2020 08:37 PM (+U5Yr)

263 NZFrank, Long Live the Queen, all others stand in line.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:37 PM (cgIyZ)

264 What an informative video.
Thank you Geoff.

I really learned I can't afford a fully automatic tool, besides a car. WeaselDog steals the show, as usual.

Weasel. you are getting better each time you post a video. Keep it up and you will be YouTube famous.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 08:39 PM (u82oZ)

265 NZFrank
The collectors here are a little on the nuts side. One guy brings his field corn grinder to make meal on the spot.
I think the newest piece of equipment that comes is from the '60's.
Even Weasel's tractor, nice as it is, would be just a kid there.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 10, 2020 08:39 PM (WFAUg)

266 254 NZFrank,
You still coming to the TXMoMe this fall?
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:35 PM (UUBmN)

That's the plan. Wedding is still a go the weekend before, so as long as Texas is not locked down and we can actually get on planes and rent cars and things, its on. I plan to play my " God those effing Kiwis drink like drowning fish " stichk. My bride will be so pleased.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:39 PM (bgJ0E)

267 259 that is a really informative video
thanks Geoff and Weasel!
Posted by: Stark on FarScape at May 10, 2020 08:36 PM (G546f)
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Thank you! Geoff did a great job with that, and we didn't have to do 700 takes. I gave him a few high points to hit and he did the rest.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:39 PM (oGne4)

268 I've got an unfair amount of full-auto trigger time in my past, and what can I say?

They're *all* fun!

But they can be very, very different.

An M-3 Grease Gun chugging along like a 1900's Hit n' Miss engine, vs. an actual .32 ACP Skorpion tuned and ripping 'em out at 1,200 rounds per min.

One I haven't got to try yet is an FN 5.7 with the giggle switch. Doesn't look like any muzzle rise with that one, at all.

Concur with the muzzle rise on the Uzi, but it's still in my Top 5 favorites to actually shoot. Why? 'Cause when you learn how it does what it does, it's a wicked-effective fighting tool. Ugly, klunky, accurate and reliable.

Most fun NON "mounted" one I've shot though? H&K G-3 in 7.62, with a wee-stubby barrel. Back in the late '80s at the long-gone Helotes, TX machine gun shoot.

30 round mag dump into the automobile hulk about 80 yards downrange.

Massive muzzle blast, but with rolling the shoulder into the stock, not a bit of muzzle rise.

But, you wanna talk about Strum and Drang, THAT thing was the embodiment of it!

I still "like" the M-60 more than the M-2 (just a different shooting experience), and getting my hands on *any* kind of Vulcan, from 7.62 on up, is STRONGLY on my To Do list.

Oh, and Ben Had?

I've seen those ladies shoot, too. All three of them.

Their modesty is.. endearing. And altogether not merited. They can SHOOT!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 10, 2020 08:40 PM (QzJWU)

269 Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (yQpMk)

Harriet looks nice with the bayone... er spiky heel
What's she weigh?

Posted by: Stark on FarScape at May 10, 2020 08:40 PM (G546f)

270
Weasel. you are getting better each time you post a video. Keep it up and you will be YouTube famous.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 08:39 PM (u82oZ)
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Thank you Salty! They're not quite where I want them but they are getting there. Appreciate it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:41 PM (oGne4)

271 Hi CaliGirl! Would you believe it's a '99 with less than 350 hours?
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07

Is it repainted with a new seat? That's a great find it looks brand new. With very low hours.

I'm guessing it was stored in a barn. We flip the seats up because they rot quickly.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 10, 2020 08:41 PM (7bcfy)

272 NZ Frank, is everybody still on lockdown in NZ? I'm expecting someone to sign some paper and return it to me, but the excuse is no can do.

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:42 PM (RSwMY)

273 oops off FarScape sock

Posted by: vmom here's Gen Flynn's book at May 10, 2020 08:42 PM (G546f)

274 Hadn't shot the Model 66 in a while, so worked some steel plates from about 10-15 yards. Not too bad. Did some lateral movement, and approach/retrogade moving-while-shooting, just to maintain proper humility. It worked.

My SEAL buddy taught me the basics and we used to work on it during duty days when customers were few and one of the smaller ranges was empty ("[name redacted]'s Tactical Academy" I called it - it was great, and by the time he tragically moved to TX was becoming a problem, as all the ROs wanted to participate, leaving nobody to, well, do their jobs.

Forgot how nice the 66 shoots (4-inch, an original one from the early 90s, not a new one) no trigger work but years of use have given it a beautiful double-action touch and of course it has the light but perfect S&W single-action touch.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 08:42 PM (El6T/)

275 Post Script.

Forgot to add.

I'm OK with a fun-gun. Geoff is better. By far.

Thanks, you two, for putting up the best gun vids on the 'net!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 10, 2020 08:42 PM (QzJWU)

276 235 NZFrank, your repair guy is gonna love you. There will be no JD parts except from a JD dealer, ever.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:26 PM

Nah, the Chinese have copied nearly every auto part from my company including our logo, JD will have their turn in the barrel too.

Posted by: clutch at May 10, 2020 08:43 PM (9UmRs)

277 the folding stock seems cool btw

Posted by: vmom here's Gen Flynn's book at May 10, 2020 08:43 PM (G546f)

278 Al from Home Improvement is hawking garden hoses now.

Posted by: jsg at May 10, 2020 08:43 PM (SrH+7)

279 NZFrank, name your drink of choice now so I can have the first one waiting for you.

Texas Tradition

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:43 PM (cgIyZ)

280 263 NZFrank, Long Live the Queen, all others stand in line.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:37 PM (cgIyZ)

Yep, she is the only person I actually swore an oath to. The oath is still in place as far as I am concerned. I have had the fortune to meet her twice. She is/was very very hansome in person. God bless her.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:44 PM (bgJ0E)

281 Oh, I thought JD's were already made in China.

/s

Posted by: jsg at May 10, 2020 08:44 PM (SrH+7)

282 As I am typically late to this esteemed forum, I have a few range reports to catch up on...

4/5 - took the Savage Axis II in .30-06 and the .300 AAC hog hammer out to the lease range. I had the chrono and some freshly rolled 168gr -06 to test. Groups were crap and velocities were all over the place (best SD was an 1

, but I consider it a win, as this was my first run at reloading the .30-06 and I left with all fingers and rifle intact. The hog hammer ran beautifully with the new H2 buffer and consistently delivers 1 MOA accuracy with 150gr freedom seeds.

4/26 - took Mrs. Deplorable Lurker and Lurking boy up to shoot her new Marlin Model 60 and her SR22. Once I got the scope on paper, I was placing some very nice groups on paper. She had a blast, and as usual, consistently out shoots me.

5/9 - another trip up with the boy and the .30-06 to sight in a new scope. Athlon Talos 4-16x40. Dirt cheap at $139, but I like the reticle and function. I've got the same scope on the hog hammer. Ran a box of ammo through it and thoroughly enjoyed myself with sub-MOA performance out of the rifle.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 10, 2020 08:45 PM (F2VXi)

283 NZFrank,
Cool, I think you'll win the prize for traveling the farthest this year...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:45 PM (UUBmN)

284 Y'all don't talk funny here. My kind of place.

*tips hat to Weasel *

Posted by: Sock Monkey..safety off at May 10, 2020 08:46 PM (grQ0q)

285 It was supposed to be annually, but it never was. After all the drops, burns from the shotgun barrels, and unintentional sweeps of the crowd with a loaded weapon, everyone was relived when it was over.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (xfb67)

You should see the range when Engineering on an Aircraft Carrier gets taken to the range and turned loose with .45s. I was the corpsman assigned to accompany them. (I stayed back with the range master and still didn't feel comfortable.)

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 10, 2020 08:46 PM (kp35W)

286 71 Hi CaliGirl! Would you believe it's a '99 with less than 350 hours?
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 07

Is it repainted with a new seat? That's a great find it looks brand new. With very low hours.

I'm guessing it was stored in a barn. We flip the seats up because they rot quickly.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 10, 2020 08:41 PM (7bcfy)
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Thanks. The seat was replaced but the rest is original. I'm really happy with it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:47 PM (oGne4)

287
198 Weasel, I have no guns but I'm hell on wheels with a slingshot.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (cgIyZ)

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Good with a slingshot is one thing. Good against Imperial Star destroyers is something else.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 10, 2020 08:47 PM (UNxyx)

288 For those wondering about a BAR for sale, the Morphy's auction catalogue linked here a few weeks back had several, as I recall. Along with lots of other nice toys. Lots of Thompsons, most in the low teens/thousands, which surprised me. "Affordable History Sub-Machine Gun Act" has a nice ring to it, but I don't there's any such law.

My brother came close to getting a 1928 back in the 70s but didn't for various reasons, wishes he had.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 08:47 PM (El6T/)

289 272 NZ Frank, is everybody still on lockdown in NZ? I'm expecting someone to sign some paper and return it to me, but the excuse is no can do.
Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:42 PM (RSwMY)

The princess fairy dust is going to make some bullshit announcement in 3 hours about the next level of nanny state. Not being able to get a document to a Post Office sounds bogus to me. The plebs are getting restless and the girlie in charge has no idea what to do.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:49 PM (bgJ0E)

290 Posted by: Jim at May 10, 2020 08:42 PM (QzJWU)
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Thanks, brother!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:49 PM (oGne4)

291 M-70 or the .300 Mag you prefer?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

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I am partial to the 300 win mag

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:49 PM (yl8CB)

292 sniffybigtoe

I had my department do some training at targets on the fantail, Mid-Pacific. We were on the helo deck shooting aft. All of us hit the target or the ocean, except for a overly buxom Signalman 3rd Class Petty Officer.

She hit the deck coaming more than once. Bullets were ricocheting all around. Good times.

I used to have her handle the phone and distance line forward on UNREPS. In her kapok, she was ... looked over a lot. From the alongside ship's CO's binocs to the 30 power Big Eyes. I guess the later was interested in pore structure.

I found out later she was signaling the ship's in-port phone number to the Battle Group. She was quite popular. When she went on leave, the calls to the ship went down 90%.

I had to talk to her.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 08:50 PM (u82oZ)

293
*tips hat to Weasel *
Posted by: Sock Monkey..safety off at May 10, 2020 08:46 PM (grQ0q)
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Thanks Sock Monkey!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:50 PM (oGne4)

294 That's not Ma Barker is it? Looks like Herman Goerring in drag.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 10, 2020 08:50 PM (ETHQn)

295 Yup, good video, Weasel. My cats' ears perk up when WD sings.
I wish I had Geoff for a neighbor.
Only autos for me were M-16s and M-60s. There's a reason its called a giggle switch.

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:51 PM (RSwMY)

296 294 That's not Ma Barker is it? Looks like Herman Goerring in drag.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 10, 2020 08:50 PM (ETHQn)

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GFY

Posted by: Zombie Hermann Goering at May 10, 2020 08:51 PM (UNxyx)

297 I sense an occasional Collectible Agricultural Equipment thread coming here at the HQ.

Truly a breath-taking sweep of content, for an obscure smart military blog.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 08:51 PM (El6T/)

298 Cicero, my tin foil Stetson renders me invisible.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:52 PM (cgIyZ)

299 283 NZFrank,
Cool, I think you'll win the prize for traveling the farthest this year...
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 10, 2020 08:45 PM (UUBmN)
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Hope that holds - looking forward to shaking NZFrank's hand and giving you a hug.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:53 PM (oGne4)

300 298 Cicero, my tin foil Stetson renders me invisible.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:52 PM (cgIyZ)

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No. It doesn't.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 10, 2020 08:53 PM (UNxyx)

301 rhomboid

I'll have to take a picture at Tractor Days in a nearby town. An amazing collection.

The real workhorses are the big combines. They are very complex.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 08:53 PM (u82oZ)

302 Well Goering was known to use make-up and his dress became more outlandish as time went on, but I think he kept it strictly manly (kind of).

Thankfully You Know Who never dumped him until the last minute when it didn't matter, as he materially hurt the Lutftwaffe's operations and situation, and almost everyone with a clue there was agitating for his removal for years.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

303

Phone goes in ziploc baggie.
Seal baggie most of way, blow up like balloon and finish sealing.
Cover in camo duct tape and throw in river.
They can track me to the Gulf of Mexico or whatever log jam it ends up in before that.

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 08:54 PM (a36X1)

304 Jim, I concur. Played with the FN P90 as the FN rep dude was trying to impress me and they is no perceived recoil. A fun gun but a toy.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:54 PM (bgJ0E)

305 Cicero, Oh Shit, I'm in trouble now.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:54 PM (cgIyZ)

306 Well Goering was known to use make-up and his dress became more outlandish as time went on, but I think he kept it strictly manly (kind of).

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THATS A DAMNED DIRTY LIE!

Posted by: Zombie Hermann Goering at May 10, 2020 08:54 PM (UNxyx)

307 Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 08:51 PM (RSwMY)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:55 PM (oGne4)

308 Weasel, I have no guns but I'm hell on wheels with a slingshot.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (cgIyZ)

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Good with a slingshot is one thing. Good against Imperial Star destroyers is something else.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 10, 2020 08:47 PM (UNxyx)

I saw a weapons program where they showed the world champion sling shot ( David and Goliath model) demonstrating its power and accuracy. I had no idea. I think it was slung over 200 FPS.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 10, 2020 08:55 PM (2DOZq)

309 Cicero, my tin foil Stetson renders me invisible.

Ben Had, I'm bringing last years "award"with me. We should start a tradition of yearly pass downs.

Posted by: Panhandler at May 10, 2020 08:56 PM (S/rwf)

310 I was a JD collector, kinda, at one time. I have 2 '35 As, a '48 A, a '48 B, a '67 720, a '70 140 LG and my newest is an '83 750 4WD with a loader.

Posted by: Ronster at May 10, 2020 08:57 PM (3nh/+)

311 309 Cicero, my tin foil Stetson renders me invisible.

Ben Had, I'm bringing last years "award"with me. We should start a tradition of yearly pass downs.
Posted by: Panhandler at May 10, 2020 08:56 PM (S/rwf)
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Now that was funny!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:57 PM (oGne4)

312
just a few minutes until the premiere of that NTD news/Epoch Times documentary/special report on covid 19 and Wall Street.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2pqVb96yyCY

Posted by: Gooshy at May 10, 2020 08:58 PM (taKIf)

313 Thank you Geoff for the informative vid and for pulling Weasel across the line on his promise of one.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 10, 2020 08:58 PM (wHCvQ)

314 Right time to mount up and get on the tractor (once I take the bloody post driver off it) as I have jobs from the range certification inspection this morning. Nice to talk to you all, thanks brother Weasel for the thread.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:59 PM (bgJ0E)

315 313 Thank you Geoff for the informative vid and for pulling Weasel across the line on his promise of one.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 10, 2020 08:58 PM (wHCvQ)
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I'll pass that along!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:59 PM (oGne4)

316 314 Right time to mount up and get on the tractor (once I take the bloody post driver off it) as I have jobs from the range certification inspection this morning. Nice to talk to you all, thanks brother Weasel for the thread.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 10, 2020 08:59 PM (bgJ0E)
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My pleasure, amigo. Have a good week!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:00 PM (oGne4)

317

And won't be long till I can watch the vids.
Just need to get sim card for new phone.
One in current phone wouldn't fit.

Will be on friends family plan with unlimited data.
Wheee!!

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:02 PM (a36X1)

318 Thanks Sock Monkey!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:50 PM (oGne4)

Weasel - best damn blog entry, I've always said it, I love the discussions and I learn something every weekend - thank you!

Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 09:02 PM (32YRo)

319 Panhandler, good idea. Sort of like passing the crown.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:02 PM (cgIyZ)

320 So I'm headed to the farm Tuesday thru Friday. The weather is supposed to be great and I'm hoping to spend a day and a half shooting gun footage. The '03 first then a couple of others - maybe a M1 Carbine and an M1A.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:03 PM (oGne4)

321 Big day tomorrow.

Have a wonderful night, everyone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 09:04 PM (u82oZ)

322 Ben Had, my Lodge has a Michael Jackson portrait that's been passed around for at least 8 Christmases as a white elephant gift. I started it and it just keeps on bringing pleasure and joy to all who screw up and choose it.

Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2020 09:05 PM (XhWtx)

323 Weasel, love your videos, and of course JD tractor and weasel dog.

Posted by: Ronster at May 10, 2020 09:05 PM (3nh/+)

324 Have a wonderful night, everyone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 09:04 PM (u82oZ)

Night Salty

Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 09:05 PM (32YRo)

325
Weasel - best damn blog entry, I've always said it, I love the discussions and I learn something every weekend - thank you!
Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2020 09:02 PM (32YRo)
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Thank you very much, Boswell. I wouldn't be doing it if it weren't for you all showing up every week!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:05 PM (oGne4)

326 Weasel, make sure you pack enough M&M's

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:06 PM (cgIyZ)

327 323 Weasel, love your videos, and of course JD tractor and weasel dog.
Posted by: Ronster at May 10, 2020 09:05 PM (3nh/+)
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Thank you! If you all have suggestions for topics, just send me an email!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:06 PM (oGne4)

328 Several *cough* decades ago when I was stationed at the long defunct Marine Barracks Philadelphia, I had the assignment of RO for fam-firing by Naval Hospital Philadelphia personnel with the 1911A1. It was a terrifying afternoon. There was one really hot little female yeoman who required extra attention, though . . .

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 10, 2020 09:07 PM (bAe71)

329 Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2020 09:04 PM (u82oZ)
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'Night Salty!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:07 PM (oGne4)

330

Night NaCly.
Hang in there you old dog.

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:08 PM (a36X1)

331 Time to pack it in. Looking forward to the '03 video, for sure.
With any luck I'll be back at the big boy range soon.
Good night, all!

Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 09:08 PM (RSwMY)

332 326 Weasel, make sure you pack enough M&M's
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:06 PM (cgIyZ)
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Absolutely!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:08 PM (oGne4)

333 Headed out to cook Mrs. Sock mother's day dinner. Roasting German sausage over the burn pile we've been working on all day. Baked beans, chips, pickles and Pepsi to round it out. She said she didn't expect me to cook a fancy dinner so I'm not. I'll probably roast her dog for her. After all, she is the mother of my children. You guys rick. I'm a bit wiser for my lurk time.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..safety off at May 10, 2020 09:09 PM (grQ0q)

334 331 Time to pack it in. Looking forward to the '03 video, for sure.
With any luck I'll be back at the big boy range soon.
Good night, all!
Posted by: RI Red at May 10, 2020 09:08 PM (RSwMY)
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Good night, pal.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:09 PM (oGne4)

335

Reloading vid?

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:10 PM (a36X1)

336
I found out later she was signaling the ship's in-port phone number to the Battle Group. She was quite popular. When she went on leave, the calls to the ship went down 90%.

I had to talk to her.

Posted by: NaCly Dog

Did she wave her skivvies when she waved her skivvies?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2020 09:11 PM (aKsyK)

337 Hold it! Geoff might be joining in!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:11 PM (oGne4)

338

Reloading vid?
Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:10 PM (a36X1)
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That's one of the things I'm thinking about!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:12 PM (oGne4)

339 Have a great time at the farm this week. I'll look foreword to the video(s).

Posted by: ck at May 10, 2020 09:13 PM (Gf0Po)

340 Thanks. The seat was replaced but the rest is original. I'm really happy with it.
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:47

What a nice looking JD tractor.

I farmed for yrs w/ my main tractor being a 1972 JD gas 4230. Few gas versions made that yr, less than 50. When we had the farm auction I think that old tractor sold for ca 28,000 I think. Gas engine guys were very competitive in the bidding.

Posted by: Farmer at May 10, 2020 09:13 PM (xMfQG)

341 Posted by: ck at May 10, 2020 09:13 PM (Gf0Po)
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Will do. Thanks ck!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:13 PM (oGne4)

342 HI Geoff, any friend of Weasel's is a friend indeed.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:13 PM (cgIyZ)

343 Duncanthrax mentioned a Contender in 41 magnum. Think of one as a 14" bull barrel. Now that is drool worthy.

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 09:14 PM (7EjX1)

344 Posted by: Farmer at May 10, 2020 09:13 PM (xMfQG)
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Thanks Farmer! It took me about 3 seconds to buy it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:14 PM (oGne4)

345
As far as old tractors there's a group where I am called the Ancient Iron Club.
Old and antique farm equipment of all kinds. One guy brought his two Maserati tractors to a show.
There's an annual meet and display. Lots of fun. I haven't heard if the Flu Manchu is going to mess it up this year yet.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society

Here's one with steam and gas tractors:

https://tinyurl.com/yaalw6c5

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2020 09:14 PM (aKsyK)

346 The sign in confused him.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:16 PM (oGne4)

347 Bertram Cabot Jr. @ 345--I'd rather go to a tractor show than probably even a Corvette show.

Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2020 09:17 PM (XhWtx)

348
1) type Geoff in the name box
B) put an x in the email bos
iii) skip the url box

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:19 PM (oGne4)

349 Ma Barker was hot.
Posted by: The Guy Who Thinks Ma Barker Was Hot at May 10, 2020 07:30 PM (UNxyx)

I remember reading a memoir from Alvin (Creepy) Karpis, who was a member of the Barker gang. He said she was never really involved with planning their robberies, and basically just ran a safe house for them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2020 09:20 PM (LZcDP)

350 Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 07:13 PM (yQpMk)

Harriet looks nice with the bayone... er spiky heel
What's she weigh?

Posted by: Stark on FarScape at May 10, 2020 08:40 PM (G546f)

She is stout lady, but well balanced.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 09:20 PM (yQpMk)

351

I would definitely watch it, more than a few times I'm sure.
Now that I'll be able to watch vids.

Ever thought about your own utube channel?

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:21 PM (a36X1)

352 Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:21 PM (a36X1)
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You mean me?
YouTube = Happy Place Farm

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:23 PM (oGne4)

353 Regardless of what the old guy told him, he did sign the liability waiver that stated that tracer ammo was prohibited. I know it's in there because I signed the same waiver.
Posted by: Old Blue at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (VNmG1)

Seems to me, if he asked the employee on duty, and got an OK, that would supersede the boiler plate waiver he signed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2020 09:23 PM (LZcDP)

354 Weasel, remember who he worked for.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:23 PM (cgIyZ)

355 354 Weasel, remember who he worked for.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:23 PM (cgIyZ)
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Yeah. Secret!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:24 PM (oGne4)

356 The FBI said Ma Barker was a "loose" woman.

They were making shit up even back then.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (Z+IKu)

357 AOP, he asked the guy where he bought the gun, not anyone at the range.

Posted by: Ronster at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (3nh/+)

358

Is that the name of your channel?
If so, will check it out tomorrow,,, on break or lunch of course.

I can see it now.
Weasel Dog goes viral!!

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (a36X1)

359 Alvin Karpis taught Charlie Manson how to play guitar, at prison.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (ETHQn)

360 Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (a36X1)
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Yep! Just search for it on YouTube. I'm amazed but these vids are getting something like 1,500 views. I probably shouldn't act like such an idiot!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:27 PM (oGne4)

361 Weasel - any ideas for a couple of 15-round M1 carbine mags that gork the last two rounds, sending them up at an angle, jamming with the bullet tip above the chamber?

10-round mags with same ammo work fine.

One of the 15-rounders worked fine the first few outings. One of them had a few glitches.

Must the be the mags, right? If the 10-rounders work with the same ammo.

The rifle is an AO/Kahr repro. I bought it barely used (possibly my best buy/steal ever), and have shot it a fair amount, not heavily. Wondering if I should just replace the main recoil spring anyway - if that doesn't do it, then the $*@#$#&($ mags must be to blame.

Haven't reviewed the generally recommended interval to replace main spring in a carbine.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)

362 I have to assume that Ma Barker was the inspiration for one of the best seasons of Justified ever.

"It was in the glass."

Posted by: Splunge at May 10, 2020 09:29 PM (dOV9E)

363 Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)
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I'd start with the springs, then the mag lips.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:29 PM (oGne4)

364
Alvin Karpis taught Charlie Manson how to play guitar, at prison.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (ETHQn)

That has the makings of an awesome Black Metal/Country song.

Posted by: Mr. Morango at May 10, 2020 09:30 PM (2N7oZ)

365 The FBI said Ma Barker was a "loose" woman.

They were making shit up even back then.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 09:25 PM (Z+IKu)

I'm coming in this late, but there are two schools of thought - that "Ma" was just as gun-happy and criminal as her boys, or that she had no idea what they were doing and got blown away when the Feebs carried out their raid, leading Hoover to make up a story about how rotten she was.

There's an old Reader's Digest compilation of crime stories, where Hoover has his about "Ma." I'll try to find it for next week's book thread.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 10, 2020 09:30 PM (2JVJo)

366 search on "weaselacres" on youtube brings them right up

Posted by: vmom here's Gen Flynn's book at May 10, 2020 09:30 PM (G546f)

367 About the faraday cage for the phone
Author Hans Schantz suggested using and empty foil potato chip bag. Ubiquitous, Cheap and easy to explain. I dont know if it is effective but that is another question....
Posted by: Dread0 at May 10, 2020 07:50 PM (thwGF)

If the Faraday cage works, the phone will not be able to receive calls at all. So when you pull it out of the cage to make a call, or check for messages, the system will then get your location.

You could also leave the phone at home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2020 09:31 PM (LZcDP)

368 Some shooter had that new-fangled non-incendiary tracer ammo at the range a few months back - 9mm?, think he shot it out a Ruger 9mm PCC - but it was daylight, couldn't really see the trace.

Imagine it would be good at dusk, or in the dark.

M38 (Mosin with the shortened barrel) is a hoot at dusk. Impressive fireball.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:31 PM (El6T/)

369

Weasel, for what it's worth, from years of doing it live, just be you.
If they don't like that they won't like you trying to be not you.

Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:32 PM (a36X1)

370 OK people. Time for my 9:30 message. Thank you all for stopping by every week. I sure do appreciate it! I'll hang around at least until the ONT kicks us to the curb like a used face mask.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:32 PM (oGne4)

371 Used to be a law and order guy. I don't think, as a jury member, I now will ever vote to convict unless I see evil intent. I am done with "breaking the law".

Posted by: irright at May 10, 2020 07:33 PM (RVcmP)

I'd LOVE to be a law and order guy. But there is no law and no order.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2020 09:32 PM (ejsiI)

372

Weasel, for what it's worth, from years of doing it live, just be you.
If they don't like that they won't like you trying to be not you.
Posted by: TeeJ - slight change there but still me at May 10, 2020 09:32 PM (a36X1)
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Yep. Those that know me will tell you that's pretty much just little ol me.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:33 PM (oGne4)

373 Thanks Weasel - and thanks as always for the fine gunz and tractor and other things thread.

It's nice when I've got fired brass to sort, guns to clean, same time as the gun thread. (man I've got to see what my 38spl load is - it's a 125g flat point lead bullet, moderate charge - but the Model 66 is filthy after just a few cylinders' worth)

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:33 PM (El6T/)

374 Weasel, sweet dreams, sweet Prince.

Always a job well done.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:34 PM (cgIyZ)

375 The biggest problem for me in making these is remembering what in the hell im supposed to say. So, out of pure desperation, I bought a Teleprompter.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:35 PM (oGne4)

376 Speaking of adventures in law enforcement, I wonder if that video from LA (I think) has led to anything. It was a doozy. Linked it yesterday (LA cop appearing to just start wailing on a guy who was standing there with his hands behind his back, presumably waiting for the cuffs).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:36 PM (El6T/)

377 Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:33 PM (El6T/)
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Thank you rhomboid. It's absolutely my pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:36 PM (oGne4)

378 Weasel, TOTUS might be available for your teleprompter needs. Unless it's in that National Archives, or the "library" being fought in Chi-town.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:37 PM (El6T/)

379 378 Weasel, TOTUS might be available for your teleprompter needs. Unless it's in that National Archives, or the "library" being fought in Chi-town.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:37 PM (El6T/)
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Good point!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:37 PM (oGne4)

380 Let him be clear!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2020 09:37 PM (aKsyK)

381 Very cool. I guess since it's a '99 mine is an antique now.
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 08:10 PM (oGne4)

Man, that's like brand new! I have an International B414D, circa 1960. It's about the size of your rig, maybe a little smaller. Made in England. It has a 3-point hitch, PTO, and power steering. And has a loader on the front. Worth every penny of the $3500 I paid for it, close to 20 years ago, now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2020 09:38 PM (LZcDP)

382 Haven't reviewed the generally recommended interval to replace main spring in a carbine.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)

M1 carbines can be finicky past the 10 round magazines. I have one from 1942 and another from 1952 and both shoot well with the 10 round magazines (original) and even the 15 rounder at times but tend to get hung up when using a 30 rounder.

All of my magazines are military surplus and the 30 rounders are from South Korea. The carbine was designed around the 10 round magazine and after that it may be just the 15 and 30 rounders were just not a perfect fit. Weight and fit can let the mag just hang a bit lower resulting in misfeeds and so on.

Try loading 12 or 13 in the 15 round magazine and see what happens.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 09:38 PM (Z+IKu)

383 374 Weasel, sweet dreams, sweet Prince.

Always a job well done.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 10, 2020 09:34 PM (cgIyZ)
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Thank you my friend!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:39 PM (oGne4)

384 AWESOME video, Weasel!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at May 10, 2020 09:39 PM (TdMsT)

385 Rhom, go look at my new girl

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmN95xdL

I'm in The Club now, right?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 09:40 PM (yQpMk)

386 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2020 09:38 PM (LZcDP)
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Ha! Yeah I suppose it is. Thanks again for the pics, by the way.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:40 PM (oGne4)

387 When I was in the Navy, we had a saying: The most dangerous thing in the world is a Marine with a rifle. The second most dangerous was a sailor, for completely different reasons.

Posted by: butch at May 10, 2020 09:40 PM (hXu8T)

388 384 AWESOME video, Weasel!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at May 10, 2020 09:39 PM (TdMsT)
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Thank you Ladyl!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:41 PM (oGne4)

389 I probably shouldn't act like such an idiot!
Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:27 PM (oGne4)

I think you are great on screen - very natural, and you have a quiet confidence that shows the viewer you know what you're talking about

if you really have a teleprompter you are MUCH better at reading it than TFG!

Posted by: vmom here's Gen Flynn's book at May 10, 2020 09:41 PM (G546f)

390 121 Maybe "stopping power" is kind of a load of crap.
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Yes, I agree, stopping power is crap. Esp. for military weapons. Small caliber, high velocity rounds are the way to go. Causalities are more important than fatalities. (See also: AR 15). It just seems like 9 mm is neither.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 10, 2020 07:43 PM (7Fj9P)

A well placed nine will have stopping power alright...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2020 09:41 PM (ejsiI)

391 I bought a Teleprompter.

Would you be willing to part with it? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at May 10, 2020 09:41 PM (EgshT)

392 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 09:38 PM (Z+IKu)
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That's a great point. I think most of mine are 10 round.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:43 PM (oGne4)

393 Weasel,
Another informative (Geoff's presentation was excellent) and fun gun thread. Enjoy your time down at the farm. Thanks, as always.

Anyine else notice this is about the only thread that stays on topic for the whole time? That's a tribute to Weasel.

Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 09:43 PM (7EjX1)

394
if you really have a teleprompter you are MUCH better at reading it than TFG!
Posted by: vmom here's Gen Flynn's book at May 10, 2020 09:41 PM (G546f)
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Thanks vmom! Actually I haven't tried to use it yet! We'll see how it goes on the next video because I'd like to include a little more info but my brain is getting sort of dried out I suppose.

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:45 PM (oGne4)

395 391 I bought a Teleprompter.

Would you be willing to part with it? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at May 10, 2020 09:41 PM (EgshT)
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Never!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:46 PM (oGne4)

396 Posted by: JTB at May 10, 2020 09:43 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks, JTB. Appreciate it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:46 PM (oGne4)

397 Hairyback Guy - I thought the 15-round was the original mag for the carbine? Even the photos from WWII, IIRC, show a 15-rounder (they're noticeably longer).

I never did read "War Baby", the exhaustive industrial history of that little rifle. Couldn't afford it!

Anyway, good suggestions. I've never had any consistent or regular problem with the 10-rounders.

Today's problems were with my reproduction rifle; I've got a 1943 Quality Hardware mixmaster, not sure I've tried them with that yet.

In any case, not all bad news - a small technical problem requiring research, dummy testing, and more shooting! Anything requiring more shooting is technically not a chore!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (El6T/)

398 Obama's ass is getting kicked on Twitter. ObamaGate has over a million tweets.

Glorious.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (LIhNq)

399 "When we found that one of the strongest biomarkers, ACE2, was much higher in men than in women, I realised that this had the potential to explain why men were more likely to die from COVID-19 than women," said Iziah Sama, a doctor at UMC Groningen who co-led the study.

Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (X5CsJ)

400 Weasel, thanks for another great gun thread, even if it did spark base feelings of envy within me!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 09:48 PM (NWiLs)

401
Glorious.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (LIhNq)
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Yes!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:49 PM (oGne4)

402 Looks like I am going to need that Teleprompter.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at May 10, 2020 09:49 PM (EgshT)

403 398 Obama's ass is getting kicked on Twitter. ObamaGate has over a million tweets.

Glorious.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (LIhNq)

Good. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 09:50 PM (NWiLs)

404 Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 10, 2020 09:48 PM (NWiLs)
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Absolutely my pleasure, Insom. Nice to have you here!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:50 PM (oGne4)

405 Obama's ass is getting kicked on Twitter. ObamaGate has over a million tweets.

Glorious.

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Yeah, but muh russian bots.

Posted by: Methos at May 10, 2020 09:51 PM (kOpft)

406 Grump - nice! CMP?

I've got 2 HRAs, a '55 and a '56 (former with the LHR barrel, which I gather is desirable).

Just beautiful industrial art. Metal on yours looks very nice.

And the bayonet? Looks like a real/surplus example.

I got a nice unissued mid-50s cotton sling, but stopped there in terms of accessories, and never have bought a bayonet for either rifle. CMP and others had decent deals on real ones a few years back when I was looking - all gone now. I have never put any effort into anything but the rifle and the reloading for it.

Though now I do have a research project in fixing a loose elevation knob screw .....

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:51 PM (El6T/)

407 398 Obama's ass is getting kicked on Twitter. ObamaGate has over a million tweets.

Glorious.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (LIhNq)

There is a long long line to kick his ass.

Posted by: Ladyl at May 10, 2020 09:52 PM (TdMsT)

408 Oh, and on Jack Posobiec's feed, there's an article about how PA and NJ were also sending covid patients to nursing homes (they apparently weren't quite as successful at exterminating the elderly as Cuomo).

Posted by: Methos at May 10, 2020 09:52 PM (kOpft)

409 If you are looking for another book on the M-1 Garand:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y73fcs9m

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 10, 2020 09:52 PM (1WlyI)

410 Yeah I noted this morning that Don must have had some Coke in his Diet Coke - dude be goin' crazy n' s**t with his twitter, all day. Just saw his "Obamagate!" twit.

Dying to know if he gamed that out with any advisers or anyone else before sending it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:53 PM (El6T/)

411 Bebe,
I recently purchased a Faraday pouch from Amazon for about$20. Brand name is Mission First or something similar. I'm favorably impressed with how it works. Hope that is of some use.

Now back to the top to read the comments.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at May 10, 2020 09:53 PM (SB8tT)

412 Obama's ass is getting kicked on Twitter. ObamaGate has over a million tweets.

Glorious.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 10, 2020 09:47 PM (LIhNq)

"The Devil, that proud sprite, cannot bear to be mocked."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 10, 2020 09:54 PM (2JVJo)

413 Biden is distancing himself from Obama and his Vice President.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 10, 2020 09:54 PM (2DOZq)

414 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 10, 2020 09:52 PM (1WlyI)
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Thanks Anna Puma!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 09:55 PM (MVjcR)

415 "You could also leave the phone at home."

Or, tape it to the bumper of a city buss. Should keep them guessing for awhile anyway.

Or, mail it parcel post to Area 51. They'll think you are closing in on them.

Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at May 10, 2020 09:56 PM (9X60i)

416 Anna, thanks - looks like a nice book. I'm a WWII addict, but as noted in comment to Grump, have not pursued any accessories or other items, just the 3 M1s (two big, one little). Do have some WWII Garand en bloc clips, and a 50s unissued sling.

And of course the Mosin-Nagants, and even some WWII Soviet ammo.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2020 09:56 PM (El6T/)

417 I am partial to the 300 win mag
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2020 08:49 PM

Sako (particularly an older one) in that caliber is Duncanthrax tested and approved.

Of course, that seal of approval and $5 will get you a small cappafrappachino at SBUX.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2020 10:00 PM (DMUuz)

418 ONT up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 10, 2020 10:00 PM (2JVJo)

419 As I have said before there is a man who owns a complete Vietnam era Cobra helicopter gunship, including the minigun which will fire 6000 rounds of 7.62 X 51 NATO per minute, and the servo helmet which allows the rear seat gunner to aim the minigun simply by turning his head to look at the target.

Saw one of those Cobra's in action just outside our wire one night in Long Binh. Not enough left of the enemy patrol the next morning to identify anything as human.

Posted by: An Observation at May 10, 2020 07:55 PM (oL9F3)

I loved the Cobras. Amazing choppers. The AH-64 is sweet, too, but the Cobras had, as you pointed out, the nice, big-ass gun in the front.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2020 10:00 PM (ejsiI)

420 You are welcome, Squadron is having a sale on some items.

The Schiffer books on US SMGs, Stens, and German MPs are also $6.25 off.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 10, 2020 10:00 PM (1WlyI)

421 I thought the 15-round was the original mag for the carbine? Even the photos from WWII, IIRC, show a 15-rounder (they're noticeably longer).

Your correct! I checked my mags and the 15 rounders were the original issue. Mine only take 14 in one for some reason. Too many cocktails and rifles to keep up with.......

The mags I have are 15-20-30 rounders. Try to under load them next time by a couple of rounds and see what it does. Also, sometimes I will slap the mag from underneath in between shots and see if that helps.

Now mine are old war horses so if yours is a new repro it may or may not be the mags.

Hope it helps anyways!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 10, 2020 10:01 PM (Z+IKu)

422 Trail of Honor in Jackson, MS usually has an AH-1F Cobra show up. If you got $1,200 you get to fly in the front gunner position.

But this year WuHan Flu cancelled the event which would have happened next weekend.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 10, 2020 10:02 PM (1WlyI)

423 Though now I do have a research project in fixing a loose elevation knob screw

I don't know if this is your issue but FM 23-5 1951 notes:

"If you can remove the rear sight locking nut without using pliers or a small wrench, the end of the pinion should be respread, using the punch that is provided for this purpose. A very light tap of a hammer is enough to expand the end of the shaft. The company armorer artificer is authorized to do this."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 10, 2020 10:03 PM (yQpMk)

424 159 We went to a range on base and just shot our Berettas, M16s, and Remington 870's for "familiarization".

It was supposed to be annually, but it never was. After all the drops, burns from the shotgun barrels, and unintentional sweeps of the crowd with a loaded weapon, everyone was relived when it was over.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2020 07:56 PM (xfb67)

And this "familiarization" and "qualify" crap is exactly why I got my own Beretta. If/when the P320s appear, I'll get one of them for the same reason.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2020 10:04 PM (ejsiI)

425 OK everyone, that's it for this week. See you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 10:06 PM (MVjcR)

426 408 Oh, and on Jack Posobiec's feed, there's an article about how PA and NJ were also sending covid patients to nursing homes (they apparently weren't quite as successful at exterminating the elderly as Cuomo).
Posted by: Methos at May 10, 2020 09:52 PM (kOpft)

This is what happens in a Socialist state when they decide to reduce "health care costs" (which are really medical care costs, but I'll leave that for now).

There was one group of citizens the East Germans were more than happy to see leave the country: the elderly. They would dump them in West Berlin, basically telling them that "now that we used them up they are your problem now." East Germany in some ways was more obsessed with money than the West Germans.

I'm sure Gov Cuomo and other Statist/Socialist governors see sending Wuhan Flu victims (you see that, S.A. City Council??? Come arrest my ass for hate speech!!!) - CHINESE CORONAVIRUS victims - to nursing homes as killing two birds with one stone. Besides, the poor guy has a budget deficit to cover. (He COULD try trimming the NY bureaucracy, making NY friendlier to business and spending government money wisely, revamping the pension system into solvency and paying down debts, but nah, that's too hard.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2020 10:24 PM (ejsiI)

427 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2020 10:00 PM (ejsiI)

The gunner in the AH-1 is in the front seat. The early models (AH-1P and G) had a hydraulic turret with a 5.56 NATO mini-gun on the right and a 40mm grenade chunker on the left. Two separate ammo drums.
Later models like the E and F had a three barrel 20mm in an electric turret.

I used to wrench on them.

See:
https://www.skytamer.com/Bell_AH-1G.html

Posted by: ChrisP at May 10, 2020 10:34 PM (ncZwO)

428 Thanks for another great gun thread, Weasel!

Posted by: navybrat, at large at May 10, 2020 10:35 PM (w7KSn)

429 Correcting my fuckup, the E and F models used the M-197 7.62 NATO three barrelled gun.

Posted by: ChrisP at May 10, 2020 10:42 PM (ncZwO)

430 Posted by: navybrat, at large at May 10, 2020 10:35 PM (w7KSn)
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My pleasure navybrat!

Posted by: Weasel at May 10, 2020 10:43 PM (MVjcR)

431 I made a trip to the range this weekend and ended up making a purchase AFTER I left the range and was perusing the inventory (of course). I had just finished watching Tombstone on Netflix the day before, so when I saw a Ruger Wrangler in bronze finish it was all she wrote. I came back the following day to break her in and it was a blast. Great little 6 shooter and for the price ($179) it was an easy sell to the wifey. A fun range toy for exploring your inner feelings for single action handlebar mustaches. Fully endorsed.

Posted by: GiyaMonster at May 10, 2020 11:24 PM (DJuTn)

432 Thanks to Weasel and Geoff for the video! That was very interesting.

Posted by: Gem at May 11, 2020 06:45 AM (kIHih)

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