Maria Bartiromo Presses Lindsey Graham on Whether He'll Honor His Promise to Subpoena FBI and IC Officials Behind RussiaGate;
Miss Lindsey Hedges

He's a deep state operative tricking conservatives into thinking there's a real investigation into the deep state.

Following the release of documents related to the Michael Flynn case, Bartiromo reminded Graham on Sunday that he has repeatedly assured her that the Senate Judiciary Committee would seek testimony from current and former Justice Department and FBI officials as she committed to reporting on a "cabal" that allegedly tried to undermine President Trump. She asserted that Graham has yet to make good on his promises, to which the senator stressed that he doesn't want to interfere in the Justice Department's criminal inquiry of the matter.

...

[Bartiromo[ went over instances dating back more than a year in which she said Graham vowed to call and subpoena witnesses, -- such as former FBI Director James Comey, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein -- promised a "deep dive" into alleged surveillance abuse, and pledged to put a stop to any future misconduct.


"You are the only one with subpoena power right now in the Republican Party," Bartiromo said, adding, "We need you to call these individuals down to testify as witnesses. People want you to move on this, senator. Are you going to do it?"

Graham responded in the affirmative but couched that assurance by saying timing is a factor.

"Yes, but I have told you, and I will tell you again, I'm not going to interfere in an ongoing criminal matter," he said. "This is a rule of law nation. I'm a politician. My goal is to write a report of how it got off the rails."

The Senate Judiciary Committee chairman further promised he will carry out his oversight role the "right" way.

Oh, he'll posture like a Maori warrior on Fox and Friends, though.

Posted by: Ace at 01:08 PM




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1 Hey, 2 years of promises is SOP for Congress!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (WEBkv)

2 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

3 yeah, he starting doing all the other shows to try to recover

it didn't work

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (8fB/R)

4

Plus, he said Biden was a good guy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (8fB/R)

5 It's great that she called him out on this. I doubted anyone would do it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (sWM8x)

6

We've got to get to the bottom of this!

When's lunch?

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (lg/F7)

7 Just keep stalling for time.

Posted by: Old Dude at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (LGXGf)

8 Maybe that fathead Hannity, can buy Miss Lindsey some more steaks.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (bGY3H)

9 Well, I hope he gets his report done in time to get the extra credit from the teacher. There's 10 extra bonus points at stake.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (r+sAi)

10 Don't trust Lindsey. Lindsey is asshole.

Posted by: I Have Questions at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (+v+zN)

11 Very bad posture....must be all the anal

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (ifmtJ)

12 "I'm not going to interfere in an ongoing criminal matter."

Especially one still on going and involving my pals.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (1ISKN)

13 Nood signal sent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (WEBkv)

14 8
Maybe that fathead Hannity, can buy Miss Lindsey some more steaks butt plugs.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (bGY3H)

FIFY

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (N39Ws)

15 Yes, but I have told you, and I will tell you again, I'm not going to interfere in an ongoing criminal matter
***

So if Trump ordered the FBI to investigate Nancy Pelosi because of "China collusion" with the only evidence being a document written by Alex Jones, we'd all just let the "ongoing criminal matter" run its course?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (WdocV)

16 Willowed:

Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.


Posted by: Tom Servo








A slow burn.


Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM

---

It
ain't just Vegas that's going to suffer. My son is a poker dealer at
Mohegan Sun casino in CT. They are saying possibly they will do a soft
opening at the end of July but they won't need everyone when that
happens.


A whole bunch of casino business was elderly people
and they for the most part are not going back because of their fear of
the virus thanks to the media. They are predicting it will take 18-24
months after they reopen to get back to half of their business they had
before this started.


My son turns 39 next week, still time
for him to look for another line of work. He has been with that Casino
since he graduated High School. Worked his way up from the bottom
starting as a slot machine mechanic.




Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (JUOKG)

17 Pull my finger. No, the brown one.

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (sWM8x)

18 "...He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them."

Posted by: The Declaration of Something or Other at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (lcQJG)

19 Yeah, so Grassley has been holding up a Trump nominee asking for declassification of some the Russiagate stuff. Stuff that Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify. But he hasn't.

Apparently it is going to be declassified.

Not has been - going to be. After 2 years of pressure from Grassley.

Does anyone here know how to play this game?

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (ZfRYq)

20 I've never wavered in my happiness that I've never voted for Graham, by the way.

He is the establishment in South Carolina.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

21 I can't keep track of Lady Lindsey. Is he still a Trump bulldog or did he go back to being a McCain quisling?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (SrGgr)

22 Saw somebody on Fox say we need a new Chair of the Justice Committee.

Slow-walk Graham could definitely get a no-confidence vote from me.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (Eicbe)

23 The senate isn't going to do anything other than confirm judges. On the whole, that may be for the best.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Go Nuts with Hermit's Harangues from the Outrage Outlet! at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (GLpYJ)

24 I'm thinking we should call this COLON-19. There is more shit coming out of it than fathomable, and every time I hear a governor speak I get a weird sensation in my squeak hole.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (bGY3H)

25

Oh, he'll posture like a Maori warrior on Fox and Friends, though.



___________





I'll bet his ass is full of face tattoos.

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (Ufkho)

26 Plus, he said Biden was a good guy.

***

Biden isn't going to grope anyone Miss Lindsay is interested in....

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (WdocV)

27 This fucker...'rule of law'....unless the lawbreakers are the FBI. Then it's 'rule of lawless'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 06, 2020 01:12 PM (ifmtJ)

28 So, Miss Lindsey's contention is that Witnesses, who have already been called by the House,

won't be called by the Senate, because it might interfere with investigations, that will never end.

OK then.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:12 PM (NgKpN)

29 Zombie McCain still has his hand up Lindsey's butt, it seems.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 01:12 PM (ptqGC)

30 I can't keep track of Lady Lindsey. Is he still a Trump bulldog or did he go back to being a McCain quisling?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (SrGgr)


I think we know where his comfort zone is. I'd wager that's where he'll always retreat to. Useless sack of crap.

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 01:12 PM (8B6Ng)

31 30 I can't keep track of Lady Lindsey. Is he still a Trump bulldog or did he go back to being a McCain quisling?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (SrGgr)

I think we know where his comfort zone is. I'd wager that's where he'll always retreat to. Useless sack of crap.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 01:12 PM (8B6Ng)

========

Personally, I'll never forgive him for his call to nationalize the banks in 2008.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (LvTSG)

32 *stumbles in from outside and trudges across the floor and presses easy button*

*nods approvingly*

*stumbles and exits stage left*

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (+ldAm)

33 Kayfabes all the way down.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (bDqIh)

34 Yeah, Graham is looking to honor his promise as much as he's searching for a wife.

That would be not at all.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (bGY3H)

35 I can't keep track of Lady Lindsey. Is he still a Trump bulldog or did he go back to being a McCain quisling?
***

He'll talk the talk, but he won't walk the walk. Normal spineless politician stuff.


But frankly until voters start kicking people like this to the curb in the primaries this will keep happening.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (WdocV)

36 Don't trust Lindsey. Lindsey is asshole.

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It's tragic when auto-correct ruins a good joke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (SrGgr)

37 He is the establishment in South Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (LvTSG)


Graham is an extension of Strom Thurmond. First elected to the Senate in 1954.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (ZfRYq)

38 But at least he made a funny face and adjusted his tie in that meme.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (uEbPt)

39 He'll stop hedging in August to whip up his vote and then fail to deliver in November when he wins re-election. This is going to be like "election pavement" when the local commissioner puts down 0.10" of blacktop and runs on road maintenance - only to have it break up after the second snowfall.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (hYcqw)

40 Lindsey's suggestion that Congress can't subpoena while others are doing a criminal investigation is disingenuous. Remember how Congress was subpeona-ing constantly while criminal investigations of trump and all was happening? He's lying.

Posted by: Draki at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (HDwJc)

41 Zombie McCain still has his hand up Lindsey's butt, it seems.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 01:12 PM (ptqGC)


McCain's fingers must be awfully bony by now.

Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (Ed8Zd)

42 Goddamn, they're all assholes...

Today is the day where I've truly lost faith in the goodness of men.

SMOD, take it away baby!

Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (gD6Ka)

43 19 Yeah, so Grassley has been holding up a Trump nominee asking for declassification of some the Russiagate stuff. Stuff that Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify. But he hasn't.

Apparently it is going to be declassified.

Not has been - going to be. After 2 years of pressure from Grassley.

Does anyone here know how to play this game?
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (ZfRYq)

Trump publicly ordered the release of the FISA documents well over a year ago.

/looks around

Still don't see them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (NgKpN)

44 They got something on Lindsey

He was character witness for scumbag Melendez (D-NJ) during his under age sex trial.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (CqE5x)

45 "That's my boy!" -- zombie Juan McCain, whose funeral procession just did a flyby of Uranus

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (Ufkho)

46 Fvck them all.... I'm so exhausted by all the corruption that I just muster any more outrage.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (2sCft)

47 Like that Maori reference, ace - Lindsey doing the Haka on TV, at his chairman's position on Judiciary.

Saw a clip of this. Pretty funny. Graham is just as shallow and slippery as any half-way intelligent person knew from the moment they first met or saw him.

Maria does a nice job there - and he shows just how arrogant he is by continuing with the same, never-believable, tired, mailed-in crap.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (El6T/)

48 Graham is complicit.
Just my $.02 worth.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (w7KSn)

49 "I'm a politician."
........

I think I see what the problem is here.

Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

50 Everyone is the enemy.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (u6xw0)

51 36
Don't trust Lindsey. Lindsey is asshole.



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It's tragic when auto-correct ruins a good joke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (SrGgr)

Don't trust auto-correct. Auto-correct is asshoe.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (KnJdm)

52 Ted Cruz has gotten good at being all talk too. He says all the right things. Less say, more do, cheech.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (uEbPt)

53 He is the establishment in South Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

Graham is an extension of Strom Thurmond. First elected to the Senate in 1954.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (ZfRYq)

Lindsey's a Dixiecrat?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (CqE5x)

54 Why does he even go on the shows in the first place? He's just going to have to keep lying.

He keeps this up and he could end up with a primary challenger.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (No longer under house arrest) at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (5p7BC)

55 Sean "Bad Optics" Hannity never follows up with fellow cuck Miss Lindsey about the 2,000 previous claims that Deep State criminals would be hauled in front of the Senate. Mr. Bad Optics knows Miss Lindsey might flit off in a huff.


But let's imagine a hearing over which Miss Lindsey presides, just for kicks:

"Director Comey, did you tell Gen. Flynn he should not have counsel present for his interview?"

"You told me to set up Flynn, senator."

"I did not!"

"Wanna see the Boy Scout pictures again?"

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (puu6v)

56 I think Linsday just wants to honor McCain during his funeral.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (Eicbe)

57 Maria Bartiromo is perhaps one of the few journalists in America left. Sad to say.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (zqhdn)

58 #TooWeaks

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (flINI)

59 53 He is the establishment in South Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

Graham is an extension of Strom Thurmond. First elected to the Senate in 1954.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (ZfRYq)

Lindsey's a Dixiecrat?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (CqE5x)

=========

Well, he's certainly to Robert Byrd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (LvTSG)

60 SMOD, take it away baby!

___

I'm TRYING here. Could you go send a bunch of Chinese "students" all over the globe again?

Posted by: Wuhan Flu - SMOD's pipsqueek cousin at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (WdocV)

61 Spineless Jellyfish

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (q1Pj5)

62 I'm pretty sure the NSA, et al, still has the goods on these Rinos. They will behave and do the bidding of the state as long as they have a job in DC.

Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (buTO7)

63 Graham will get right on this once McCains eternal funeral is over.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (bGY3H)

64 >>They got something on Lindsey. He was character witness for scumbag Melendez (D-NJ) during his under age sex trial.


Anyone in Congress as long as him, regardless of party labeling, is on Team DC.

The tough talk is primarily to keep the rubes outside of DC thinking he's representing them.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (bDqIh)

65 52 Ted Cruz has gotten good at being all talk too. He says all the right things. Less say, more do, cheech.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (uEbPt)

Welcome to the Senate. Lots of yap.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (zqhdn)

66 46
Fvck them all.... I'm so exhausted by all the corruption that I just muster any more outrage.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (2sCft)

Turn it into something productive, like first aid training, planning, tactics, reloading, etc.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (KnJdm)

67 I had hopes for Lindsey after his outraged speech at the Kavanaugh debacle.

Nope, he is and always has been just a mendacity-ridden blowhard.

Posted by: Biergood at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (FQWHA)

68 Don't trust auto-correct. Auto-correct is asshoe.
***

That is really ducking true.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (WdocV)

69 Believe he's giving up Judiciary next Congress, Chuck's taking it back. Odd.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (El6T/)

70 PLANDEMIC movie link

Goes to Namely Liberty site

https://tinyurl.com/yc3q4928

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (5bg3W)

71 Ted Cruz has gotten good at being all talk too. He says all the right things. Less say, more do, cheech.

He's always been all talk but in his defense, he doesn't have a lot of options OTHER than talk about a lot of this stuff. His own party hates him, and keeps him from any real power.

I think he's setting up a 2024 run.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (KZzsI)

72 Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (uEbPt)

Better well done than well said. I do wonder how much a guy like Cruz can do when he knows most people on his side have little to no interest on doing anything but talking big shit.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (ea36Y)

73 Yeah, Miss Lyndsey is eyeballs deep in the shit. His BFF McCain was a real villain.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (CLteG)

74 Graham will get right on this once McCains eternal funeral is over.

How could you! Its only been 853 days!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

75 Either the deep state has dirt on him or he's actually the impotent, feeble, infecund, inept, prostrate, toothless, pigeon-hearted empty suit that he appears to be.

Maria B has bigger globes than he does.

Posted by: peacelovewoodstock at May 06, 2020 01:18 PM (/f5AZ)

76 57 Maria Bartiromo is perhaps one of the few journalists in America left. Sad to say.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (zqhdn

To me, Journalist is a nasty word.

I grant her the appellation, of REPORTER!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:18 PM (NgKpN)

77 I gave Graham a tentative benefit of doubt during the Graham 2.0 times. No more. He is compromised and a self-promoting, lying weasel.

Be gone with him.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:18 PM (KnJdm)

78 "We need you to call these individuals down to testify as witnesses. People want you to move on this, senator. Are you going to do it?"
........

'Well, blibbety blah blabbety blub blibbety. And then blah blah blah."

Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (v0R5T)

79 Sigh. Even if they testified would it really do anything?

Posted by: Iris at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (lSFe/)

80 Does anyone here know how to play this game?

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (ZfRYq)

_________


"Deny. Deny. Deny.

Delay. Delay. Delay.
Deflect. Deflect. Deflect." -- courtesy of the Clinton Administration

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (Ufkho)

81 When you have every single text message, and probably a recording of every phone call on someone going back to 1999, through breakups, drunken rants, text to the connect, and everything else, you control them fully.

Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (buTO7)

82 Fucking Gomer Pyle MF

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (M+Lyo)

83 Anyone in Congress as long as him, regardless of party labeling, is on Team DC.

The tough talk is primarily to keep the rubes outside of DC thinking he's representing them.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (bDqIh)

No truer words said.

My Congresscritter moved to DC practically the moment he was first elected in 1994. Yeah, Mr. Thornberry is listed as representing Clarendon, but I don't think he's been there outside the obligatory town hall. He retires this year? You think he's moving back to the TX Panhandle when he's done? Hell no.

Team DC indeed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (zqhdn)

84 >>Sigh. Even if they testified would it really do anything?

Not really.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 01:19 PM (ZLI7S)

85 The ultimate irony is that Congressional investigations never amount to jack shit anyway.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (1ISKN)

86 Joey Ramone - Maria Bartiromo

https://youtu.be/Sf4_-ciaJtk

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (xPl2J)

87 Lindsey 2.0 is a sham.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (DMUuz)

88 I'm pretty sure the NSA, et al, still has the goods on these Rinos. They
will behave and do the bidding of the state as long as they have a job
in DC.
***

Yep. In Graham's case I don't care that he's gay. I don't care that the Deep State would get the pictures all over the internet if he crossed them with his various boyfriends.


But here's the thing. Remember the operation against Roy Moore? That most of the establishment Republicans, and a bunch of people here, fell for?

Why the hell should Graham believe we'd give him cover when the Deep State comes after him?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (WdocV)

89 Linsey will not honor that promise because his fingers were crossed behind his back so it was never really a promise.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (pw+jk)

90 Shut up and vote for some more judges.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (LvTSG)

91 I think he's setting up a 2024 run.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (KZzsI)

He'll never get my vote. He's not on our side any more than Miss Lindsay.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (uEbPt)

92 he'll posture like a Maori warrior

Huh. I didn't know Maori warriors were known for being bent over living-room furniture.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (H5knJ)

93 pigeon-hearted empty suit

Posted by: peacelovewoodstock
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*heh* That's a good one. Stealing.

Posted by: PennaLady at May 06, 2020 01:21 PM (8HBLI)

94 I agree in principal that you need to time things to work well with an ongoing investigation and not grandstand. I agree that senate hearings haven't accomplished anything since, I dunno, the Church years in the 70s? And I agree that just doing something to show you're doing something is bad policy.

But this guy is just a wall of excuses for why he never gets anything actually done.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:21 PM (KZzsI)

95 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 06, 2020 01:21 PM (arJlL)

96 It's unkind, I suppose, my fondest memories of Maria Baritoromo involve her panic-stricken reporting during the Financial Crisis in '08-'09.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:21 PM (hYcqw)

97 I do not wish to see Graham doing a Haka.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

98 Lindsey's a Dixiecrat?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (CqE5x)


Not so much.

But SC has machine politics based on regions (roughly) of the state. There are 6, basically, aligned with the Congressional districts - though there are 7 districts - two of those are the same powerbase.

Columbia (the capital), Charleston, Greenvile/Spartanburg, Myrtle Beach, the black vote, and Edgefield.

The Edgefield machine is where Strom came from and that machine is now Grahams.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (ZfRYq)

99 8 Maybe that fathead Hannity, can buy Miss Lindsey some more steaks.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters
____________

Waiter: Sen. Graham, how do you like your steak done?

Hannity: Unbelievable! His steak is done?

Miss Lindsey: I would---

Hannity: I used to be a chef at a great steakhouse, and let me tell you, there's nothing better than a medium rare porterhouse prepared by yours truly. Isn't that right, Sweet Baby James?

Miss Lindsey: Me---

Hannity: Lindsey, we've been friends forever, and we don't always agree, but you're a great American, and when we get our country back, you and I will go out for a steak dinner on me.

Miss Lindsey: But, Sean---

Hannity: Unbelievable! I've bought steaks for people ever since I worked on a roofing crew. Now, that's some hard work.

Posted by: Furious George at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (9vQJW)

100 Trey Gowdy will save us all...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (flINI)

101 The Corporal Upham of Senators

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (q1Pj5)

102 Speaking of Maria's globes, has she been seen in that red dress lately?

Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

103 Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (5bg3W)

Definitely worth watching.

I did have to research one thing the Doctor said.

She mentioned that in 1980 a law on patents was changed, and I couldn't figure out why that was a big deal.

Well, in 1980 an executive order was put in place, so that anyplace that did research on a government grant, but was NOT government property itself (like a University) would get the patent, although the Government would get an automatic license to use said idea.

That huge because our government does not actually make anything. Thus, the patent holder earns money by licensing it to a company, and then the government then buys the product.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:23 PM (NgKpN)

104 I saw Wall of Excuses open for Flock of Seagulls at the Florentine Gardens in '82.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 01:23 PM (SrGgr)

105 I agree that senate hearings haven't accomplished anything since, I dunno, the Church years in the 70s?

***

Bring in Deep Stater. Tell Deep Stater that the 2021 budget will include a line that anyone found to have lied to congress gets no salary. Start asking questions.


Have fun.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:23 PM (WdocV)

106 Lindsay Graham is my absolute fave Senator. A moral man. A truthful man. A fighter for the American system of even-handed administration of government.

Posted by: Nick Frankovich at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (NVYyb)

107 Does Miss Lindsey smoke Virginia Slims?

Posted by: MJ at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (gAMkn)

108 DIABLO (CR 2 Graham is a lying liberal AH. I can not for the life of me understand how he keeps getting elected.

Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mpXpK)

109
It's unkind, I suppose, my fondest memories of Maria Baritoromo involve her panic-stricken reporting during the Financial Crisis in '08-'09.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:21 PM (hYcqw)


Was it the heaving bosom or the quivering bee-stung lips?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mht8P)

110 He just wants to sound tough until November. Once that is done he'll drop it all and move back to pushing for amnesty like he always does.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (7FO5t)

111 my fondest memories of Maria Baritoromo ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

= = = =

She provided excellent background for Trump's remarks at the 2016 Al Smith dinner.

Posted by: peacelovewoodstock at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (/f5AZ)

112 Was it the heaving bosom or the quivering bee-stung lips?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mht8P)
+++++++++++
Both. Mixed in with the panic-tinged octave shift.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (hYcqw)

113 Bring in Deep Stater. Tell Deep Stater that the 2021 budget will include a line that anyone found to have lied to congress gets no salary. Start asking questions.

Deep Stater sneers at you, knowing 59 of his buddies in congress will make sure that never gets into a bill.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (KZzsI)

114 108 DIABLO (CR 2 Graham is a lying liberal AH. I can not for the life of me understand how he keeps getting elected.
Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mpXpK)

========

Constituent services, yo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (LvTSG)

115 Posted by: Furious George at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (9vQJW)

This is hilarious

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (SMJvk)

116 Graham will get right on this once McCains eternal funeral is over.

How could you! Its only been 853 days!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

*****

The Maverick has been in Hell 853 days already? Doesn't seem possible

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (flINI)

117 DIABLO (CR 2 Graham is a lying liberal AH. I can not for the life of me understand how he keeps getting elected.
Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mpXpK)


Because he keeps getting the most votes.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (ZfRYq)

118 The forever "investigations" have always been a mechanism to obfuscate, hide and delay the delivery of true justice until it's too late to do anything about it.


And never forget, Ms Lindsey stood side by side with McCain when he "delivered" the Steel Dossier to the FBI/DOJ.


He's a deep state tool, always has been, always will be.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (NkeJ4)

119 Shit, just realized.

Did FISA get renewed again?

Lost track of that issue in the pandemic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (NgKpN)

120 It's unkind, I suppose, my fondest memories of
Maria Baritoromo involve her panic-stricken reporting during the
Financial Crisis in '08-'09.



Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:21 PM (hYcqw)



Was it the heaving bosom or the quivering bee-stung lips?



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mht8P)


I like heaving and quivering. And moist, don't forget the moist.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (q1Pj5)

121 But here's the thing. Remember the operation against Roy Moore? That most of the establishment Republicans, and a bunch of people here, fell for?

Why the hell should Graham believe we'd give him cover when the Deep State comes after him?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:20 PM (WdocV)
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Best case scenario, even if they have nothing, they'll just make it up.

Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (buTO7)

122 >>Bring in Deep Stater. Tell Deep Stater that the 2021 budget will include a line that anyone found to have lied to congress gets no salary. Start asking questions.


Which witness that you want to hear from still works in the government?

We are still waiting for the transcripts from the 50+ people the House interviewed 2 years ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 01:26 PM (ZLI7S)

123 Trump publicly ordered the release of the FISA documents well over a year ago.



/looks around



Still don't see them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (NgKpN)

__________


Barr is rearranging them in his quest to write the first ever bagpipe opera tragedy.

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:26 PM (Ufkho)

124
46 Fvck them all.... I'm so exhausted by all the corruption that I just muster any more outrage.
Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (2sCft)


Too bad AllenG isn't still around. His solution was prescient.

Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:26 PM (Fs5vw)

125
Does Miss Lindsey smoke Virginia Slims?





Posted by: MJ at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (gAMkn)

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No but he does on occasion smoke Virgil Slims... his pole that is.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 01:26 PM (pw+jk)

126 Lost track of that issue in the pandemic.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (NgKpN)


Alert! Alert!

Someone has figured it out!

Posted by: NSA Bob at May 06, 2020 01:26 PM (ZfRYq)

127 110 He just wants to sound tough until November. Once that is done he'll drop it all and move back to pushing for amnesty like he always does.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (7FO5t)

Yeah, its the 'you have to reelect me so I can hold hearings' crap.

Or abolish ObamaCare!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (NgKpN)

128 OK, I know he just got zapped (again), but "twat fingers" made me laugh...65 goin' on 12.

Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (gD6Ka)

129 When I write, I look many places for inspiration. Sometimes inspiration comes in more complete forms than other times, where I only catch fragmentary thoughts instead of whole essays.

Lindsay Graham does something very similar, in taking his inspiration from John McVain. He would probably even say "Build the dang fence!", taking Senator McVain's funeral oration to heart, if he thought it would gain him a vote or two.

Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (NVYyb)

130 The Maverick has been in Hell 853 days already? Doesn't seem possible

Thats close to 3 years so no, I didn't do the math this time. Its been 620 days, according to the "days between dates" website

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (KZzsI)

131 Deep Stater sneers at you, knowing 59 of his buddies in congress will make sure that never gets into a bill.
***

Well in this case it only requires 51 votes but yes - you do need a majority either by having good men or a leader that will force them to follow suit.


Of course a minority could probably still derail the budget process.


If you have 20 Republicans opposed to say the funding for the FBI and 45 Democrats opposed to anything the Senate is trying to get passed the other 30 Republicans are going to have to choose to side with one side or the other....

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (WdocV)

132 But frankly until voters start kicking people like this to the curb in the primaries this will keep happening.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (WdocV)

The age-old debate.
To me, its better that have Lindsay than another Doug Moore Dem take his place. While the best would be the warrior Lindsay or a Matt Goetz or a Devin Nunes or a Jim Jordan, but ...reality

Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 01:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

133 Lindsay Graham does something very similar, in taking his inspiration from John McVain. He would probably even say "Build the dang fence!", taking Senator McVain's funeral oration to heart, if he thought it would gain him a vote or two.
Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (NVYyb)


Graham wins 65-70% of the vote in SC

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:28 PM (ZfRYq)

134 Lindsay Graham is the Republican version of Chuck Schumer. Never met a camera he didn't like.

Posted by: dantesed at May 06, 2020 01:28 PM (88xKn)

135 DIABLO (CR 2 Graham is a lying liberal AH. I can not for the life of me understand how he keeps getting elected.
Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (mpXpK)

========

Constituent services, yo.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (LvTSG)


I think the world starts to look much more reasonable once one gets the message that the Republican Party is basically the same as the Democrat Party, except they have different paymasters.

Although I'm willing to concede, given the STATED principles of the Republican Party, that some small percentage of actual Republican officeholders believe in and adhere to those principles.

There actually used to be Democrats about whom one could say that as well. Those are rarer these days.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)

136 Hey doesn't this new candle I just got from Gwyenth Paltrow smell like my fingers? Weird huh?


Posted by: Joey Two Fingers at May 06, 2020 01:29 PM (WdocV)

137 I'm on Graham's e-mail list for contributions.

Not one dime, you fraudulent hack, until you issues subpoenas, and actually start questioning, in PUBLIC hearings, the entire Comey-Brennan cabal.

Posted by: Evan 3457 at May 06, 2020 01:29 PM (8X8pP)

138

Posted by: Romeo13
That was unbelievable. I was struck by the Birx quote "very liberal approach to mortality" compared with the numbers.



19k from Medicare for a hospital for a Covid death.

39k to the hospital for putting a Covid patient on a ventilator.


Also the doctors asking " why am I being pressured to put Covid on the death report"


The mortality numbers are a lie.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:29 PM (5bg3W)

139 54
Why does he even go on the shows in the first place? He's just going to have to keep lying.



He keeps this up and he could end up with a primary challenger.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (No longer under house arrest) at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (5p7BC)


___________


TJM is extremely wealthy, right? Can I get a second? ;-)

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:29 PM (Ufkho)

140 I know he just got zapped (again), but "twat fingers" made me laugh...65 goin' on 12.
Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (gD6Ka)
==================
Me too. I thought that would be one comment he might get to keep.

Playing sad trombone for the troll.

Posted by: PennaLady at May 06, 2020 01:29 PM (8HBLI)

141 CR- 28

Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (mpXpK)

142 The age-old debate.

To me, its better that have Lindsay than another Doug Moore Dem take his place.

***

Well....thats why I did say the primaries.


Though in some cases we should NOT be supporting someone just because he is marginally better then the Dems - like Romney in 2012.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (WdocV)

143 Came in late on the last thread, but for the "I'll wear a mask" people...

If you have an N95 mask, it works, otherwise...

The space is after .gov

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 (

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (NDO5Q)

144 135
I think the world starts to look much more reasonable once one gets the message that the Republican Party is basically the same as the Democrat Party, except they have different paymasters.

Although I'm willing to concede, given the STATED principles of the Republican Party, that some small percentage of actual Republican officeholders believe in and adhere to those principles.

There actually used to be Democrats about whom one could say that as well. Those are rarer these days.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)

=========

If Graham was going to lose, it was in 2014.

He won easily.

There's no one in the state who could seriously take him on, especially in a primary.

He's there until he dies or decides to become governor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

145 You know we wouldn't be in this position if only we had passed Paul Ryan's "Path to Prosperity" in 2012. Now *that* guy was a fighter for small government!

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:31 PM (hNjG1)

146 145 You know we wouldn't be in this position if only we had passed Paul Ryan's "Path to Prosperity" in 2012. Now *that* guy was a fighter for small government!
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:31 PM (hNjG1)

==========

"He's slowing the growth of government! He wants to push grandma off the cliff!"
-The DNC

"Sorry about that. I think we made an unfair move there."
-The RNC

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:32 PM (LvTSG)

147 127 110 He just wants to sound tough until November. Once that is done he'll drop it all and move back to pushing for amnesty like he always does.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 01:24 PM (7FO5t)

Yeah, its the 'you have to reelect me so I can hold hearings' crap.

Or abolish ObamaCare!
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:27 PM (NgKpN)


Don't you dare suggest they're not serious about that! The house voted dozens of times to repeal it! And even the senate passed a repeal that Obama had to veto! Why I'm sure as soon as we get the House Senate and the presidency they'll... whazzat? Oh they did? It was stopped. Well I'm sure they tried more than one time before losing the House. You know since we were all assured over and over that they really did want to repeal it.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 01:32 PM (7FO5t)

148
"The cuck stops here!" ~ L. Graham

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 06, 2020 01:32 PM (Y7v+0)

149 Paul Ryan will save us all...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:32 PM (flINI)

150 Ted Cruz has gotten good at being all talk too. He says all the right things. Less say, more do, cheech.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (uEbPt)

Welcome to the Senate. Lots of yap.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (zqhdn)


The 17th Amendment pretty much guaranteed the worthlessness of the Senate as a repository of numbnuts windbags like McCain, Flake, Gaylord...

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:32 PM (y7DUB)

151 Sounds like the JackStraw answer.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:33 PM (2DOZq)

152 Grrrr more on that mask information from the NIH website (pixy didn't like the


Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 ( < 0.01%), 3M Vflex 9105 N95 (0.1%).

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:33 PM (NDO5Q)

153 Lindsey tells the same sweet lies when he's sipping penis.

Posted by: Fritz at May 06, 2020 01:33 PM (95j/9)

154 The masks are just like the seven bins of trash to save the Earth. Compulsory payments to the Left in submission to their idiot religion.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:33 PM (hNjG1)

155 143 Came in late on the last thread, but for the "I'll wear a mask" people...

If you have an N95 mask, it works, otherwise...

The space is after .gov

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 (
Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (NDO5Q)

Still gripped by "The Fear" I see. You're free to keep subjugating yourself, I guess.

Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (Fs5vw)

156 It's difficult for Graham to stand strong against the deep state. He's comped, and they have the pictures to prove it. His role is to fluff conservatives, not to get us off.

Posted by: Miledei at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (5IBjw)

157 Scott aint much better

probs the only person who could challenge Linda is Gowdy

which might be a 5% improvement

I sometimes think the DNC puts these schmucks into position

Posted by: REDACTED at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (tQbpU)

158 >>Sounds like the JackStraw answer.

What's that, Roc?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)

159 Hey guys, there's a lot of money in endless wars. Lindsay's Donors know this.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (QQ/iJ)

160 Eric Cantor will save us all...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (flINI)

161 I've stopped sending money to these liars ever since the IRS targeting. If they can't protect our most basic rights, they should be thrown out of office. So sick and tired of Graham pretending to be tough and never getting anything done.

Posted by: iandeal at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (vgGyZ)

162 I miss baseball

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)

163 Paul Ryan talked a very good game. He had me fooled when he was running with Pierre. Maybe I was just desparate to find something that would make me want to vote for the ticket rather than be resigned to voting for the republicans.

Posted by: PennaLady at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (8HBLI)

164 5
It's great that she called him out on this. I doubted anyone would do it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (sWM8x)

What would have made it perfect is if she would have been calling him out on this topless. At least 2016 post-election version topless.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (ufFY8)

165 I remember when Thomas Ravenal ran against Lindsay on a common-sense conservative platform. Ravenal garnered about 8 votes, I think. His felony cocaine conviction probably hurt a bit, while Ravenal's subsequent assault arrests and gaggle of illegitimate children mean that the fine people of South Carolina made the right choice.

Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

166 Still gripped by "The Fear" I see. You're free to keep subjugating yourself, I guess.
Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (Fs5vw)

I think she was trying to show the futility of the mask order.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (2DOZq)

167 160 Eric Cantor will save us all...
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (flINI)

Ugh, I forgot all about that little weasel.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (LIhNq)

168 and I also miss traffic jams

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (d7Ww2)

169 Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (Fs5vw)

I think you misunderstood my purpose to posting that. Basically, masks are useless and nothing more than a placebo.

If you have a serious health condition, the N95 mask will work. Cloth is useless. Medical is one step above useless.

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (NDO5Q)

170 when someone's getting fucked and you don't know who it is

cover your bunghole

Posted by: REDACTED at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (tQbpU)

171 Ahem.

Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax: Cuomo

Rake. Anus. Sideways, Andy.

I cannot believe these people.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (Boy/L)

172 Barr is rearranging them in his quest to write the first ever bagpipe opera tragedy.
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:26 PM (Ufkho)
--------


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqW3ec5_Nk

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (4o2K3)

173 Still gripped by "The Fear" I see. You're free to keep subjugating yourself, I guess.


The important thing is that Karen feeelz SEEF.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (5bg3W)

174 Newt Gingrich will save us all...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (flINI)

175 I think the world starts to look much more reasonable once one gets the message that the Republican Party is basically the same as the Democrat Party, except they have different paymasters.

I don't agree with the latter point; in fact I think that's why most GOP campaign promises go unfulfilled.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (y7DUB)

176 165 I remember when Thomas Ravenal ran against Lindsay on a common-sense conservative platform. Ravenal garnered about 8 votes, I think. His felony cocaine conviction probably hurt a bit, while Ravenal's subsequent assault arrests and gaggle of illegitimate children mean that the fine people of South Carolina made the right choice.
Posted by: LASue
_________

So Ravenal was a Democrat?

Posted by: Furious George at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (9vQJW)

177 I miss the kids partying on the beach and being noisy little fucks until 3am

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (d7Ww2)

178 I cannot believe these people.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (Boy/L)

They really do defy all possible elements of reality.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (hNjG1)

179
#twoweeks

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 01:38 PM (EGyGV)

180 I guess I have to agree that it is better to have 1 more vote in the Senate to avoid removing Trump, than not.

That's the effectiveness of Graham: 1 GOP vote to keep a Republican president in place, also, good to have his vote to reform the judiciary, too.

Frankly, Grassley has done more from where he is.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:38 PM (Eicbe)

181 Sounds like the JackStraw answer.

What's that, Roc?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (ZLI7S

Not a dig. It sounds like what you've said repeatedly about demands made my Congress during an ongoing investigation. Is that not true?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:38 PM (2DOZq)

182 Waiting breathlessly for Miss Lindsey's performance of her haka.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..safety off at May 06, 2020 01:38 PM (WWmr8)

183 Lol

Posted by: Kabuki Theatre at May 06, 2020 01:38 PM (4Q1w7)

184
I miss baseball

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)

I've got a ball and glove to help you pass the time.

Posted by: Cooler King Captain Virgil Hilts at May 06, 2020 01:39 PM (q1Pj5)

185 Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 (
Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (NDO5Q)


As has always been the case, the mandate for mask wearing by the public was always about power and control, and it was never about reducing the spread of virus.

As for individual choice, if people FEEL better about being out in public, with masks and gloves and whatever the hell else, then it serves that purpose as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)

186 I sometimes think the DNC puts these schmucks into position
***

Remember Dennis Hastert? Who the MSM and several member of the left *knew* was a pedophile while he was speaker as they've since mentioned?

Funny how the guys haveing affairs with adult, consenting women for ahead of him for the role got destroyed and the guy with a real skeleton in his closet got the job and then did nothing with it the whole time he had it isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:39 PM (WdocV)

187 I think the world starts to look much more reasonable once one gets the message that the Republican Party is basically the same as the Democrat Party, except they have different paymasters.
---
They are not. Without cover of the leadership of Dems, the Pubs at least have to pretend that they are conservative.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (Eicbe)

188 Dammit, the Horde hive mind beat me to it 50 or so comments ago.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (ufFY8)

189 I remember when Thomas Ravenal ran against Lindsay on a common-sense
conservative platform. Ravenal garnered about 8 votes, I think. His
felony cocaine conviction probably hurt a bit, while Ravenal's
subsequent assault arrests and gaggle of illegitimate children mean that
the fine people of South Carolina made the right choice.

Posted by: LASue


Lol. That whole thing played out on "Southern Charm." He really is a piece of work.

He's also been accused of raping his babies nanny.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (ptqGC)

190 Posted by: Furious George at May 06, 2020 01:22 PM (9vQJW)


_________


A- and funny.


You needed a throw in a martial arts training reference for the A+.

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (Ufkho)

191 165 I remember when Thomas Ravenal ran against Lindsay on a common-sense conservative platform. Ravenal garnered about 8 votes, I think. His felony cocaine conviction probably hurt a bit, while Ravenal's subsequent assault arrests and gaggle of illegitimate children mean that the fine people of South Carolina made the right choice.
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (Ed8Zd)


Ravenel ran against Jim DeMint in the primary for the open seat after Holligs retired. He never ran against Graham.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (ZfRYq)

192 Lindsey Graham can't wait until the next SCOTUS nomination so he can submit his performance to The Academy for an Oscar consideration.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (xPl2J)

193 when someone's getting fucked and you don't know who it is

cover your bunghole
Posted by: REDACTED at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (tQbpU)
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Sung to the tune of "That's Amore!"

Posted by: PennaLady at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (8HBLI)

194 170
when someone's getting fucked and you don't know who it is



cover your bunghole
and you feel a sharp stabbing pain, it's you.


Posted by: REDACTED at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (tQbpU)

FIFY

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (N39Ws)

195 I predict that Miss Lindsey and other cuckservatives are destined for early retirements and replacements by new blood.

Especially since the Iran and China graft is beginning to dry up.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:40 PM (5bg3W)

196 I miss baseball
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)
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That's why we never put you in lineup!

Posted by: Japanese Coach at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (Eicbe)

197
Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax: Cuomo




HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (oVJmc)

198 I cannot believe these people.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM


* sssssssh *

They are your betters, Circa.

Posted by: zombie Darth Vader at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (DMUuz)

199 "He's a deep state operative tricking conservatives into thinking there's a real investigation into the deep state."

You think Trump is going to let all that go without a fight?

And regarding timing, getting this to come out for maximal electoral impact this year will be a matter of timing. Uncertain timing, because of the risk of judicial delay and sabotage, etc.

Politics is a lot more than simple US/THEM.

Posted by: Apostate at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (z2FAZ)

200 169 Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (Fs5vw)

I think you misunderstood my purpose to posting that. Basically, masks are useless and nothing more than a placebo.

If you have a serious health condition, the N95 mask will work. Cloth is useless. Medical is one step above useless.

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:36 PM (NDO5Q

Sorry. My bad. I'm just tired of the unrelenting fear I see in people concerning this.

Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (Fs5vw)

201 Lindsey is going to be busy in the next few weeks as a pall bearer for John McCain.

Show some respect.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (ptqGC)

202 >>Not a dig. It sounds like what you've said repeatedly about demands made my Congress during an ongoing investigation. Is that not true?

Well yes, there is an ongoing criminal investigation. But Graham has a long history of big talk and little action.

At this point I find little use for more hearings. The House did exhaustive hearings and most of the transcripts are still being held by Schiff although it appears Grenell is going to push them out anyway. It's the same group of people that would be interviewed in the Senate.

It's really all up to Durham and his team at this point. Graham's hearings aren't going to indict anyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)

203
What would have made it perfect is if she would have been calling him out on this topless. At least 2016 post-election version topless.


piker

Posted by: CNN Business Maria at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (PtOP4)

204 197
Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax: Cuomo



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (oVJmc)

==========

"Cuomo really is the best governor, and I love New York, but I would never move there. Now, to vote for Democrats."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (UWqZJ)

205 when someone's getting fucked and you don't know who it is

cover your bunghole


It's a little choppy, but I'll allow it.

Posted by: zombie Dean Martin at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (IvOed)

206 Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax: Cuomo
___

But first, they will blow me.


Posted by: Gov Cuomo at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (WdocV)

207
So sick and tired of Graham pretending to be tough and never getting anything done.
Posted by: iandeal at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (vgGyZ)





If he actually lifted a finger to try, but was shut down by the rest of Congress, that'd be one thing. But Graham has NEVER gone out on a limb and done anything more than talk.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (EGyGV)

208 Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 (
Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:30 PM (NDO5Q)

Still reduces the distance that droplets spread, though. Not thoroughly dusting every room you enter counts for something.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 06, 2020 01:43 PM (J+mig)

209 Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax: Cuomo

Wow. There were about 60 doctors and nurses from Georgia who went up there. Sucks to be them.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 01:43 PM (ptqGC)

210 I miss baseball
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM


But do you miss me?

Posted by: the woodpecker at May 06, 2020 01:43 PM (DMUuz)

211 when someone's getting fucked and you don't know who it is

cover your bunghole >>>!

Or astronauts and aliens could escape.


Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:43 PM (2DOZq)

212 Here's the breakdown best I can figure.

28% of the elected Republican Party is old school Democrat. Perfectly happy with government but would like a little bit of freedom and prosperity and military might, and isn't necessarily for abortion.

70% is Current Democrat/Hidden Communist. They will lay it on the line for absolutely nothing other than paycheck or power. Pretending to be a Republican pays well and is an easy life because what exactly is difficult about Failure Theater?

2% (maybe) is basically with us ideologically... but 99% of *them* are compromised.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:43 PM (hNjG1)

213 Graham is back on the soy diet. He approaches demi-tough on a meat diet.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (q1Pj5)

214 Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)

I agree with people being able to do whatever they like.

People should be informed that that cloth mask they made yesterday isn't going to help them at all. If they still choose to wear it, well ok.

However, because so many people are under the mistaken impression that a cloth mask will help, the mask-wearers "shame" others for not wearing one, and not wanting to wear one. And that definitely goes to power and control.

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (NDO5Q)

215 >> I've stopped sending money to these liars ever since the IRS targeting. If they can't protect our most basic rights, they should be thrown out of office. So sick and tired of Graham pretending to be tough and never getting anything done.


Yup.
The last fundraising call from the RNC I received (despite ignoring them for years) was right after McCain had done his tirade on the Tea Party wacko-birds and I told them that as long as they supported McCain the would get NOTHING from me.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (bDqIh)

216 I love the POTUS, but he has got to be serious with his complimentary attitude toward politicians. He has to endorse the right guys for the right reasons to avoid egg on his face, which his praise/condemnation of politicians has been doing lately whether he realizes it or not. When he praises cuomo or newsome, I feel somewhat betrayed. I hope he's playing some kind of 5D chess and it will all make sense one day, but that doesn't help when the Republic seems to be slipping away by the day.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (LIhNq)

217 Still reduces the distance that droplets spread, though. Not thoroughly dusting every room you enter counts for something.
***

How about when you and your fellow Wuhan Flu positive subway rider sit next to each other for an hour?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (WdocV)

218 I think the world starts to look much more reasonable once one gets the message that the Republican Party is basically the same as the Democrat Party, except they have different paymasters.
--------------------
I don't agree with the latter point; in fact I think that's why most GOP campaign promises go unfulfilled.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:37 PM (y7DUB)


So you're saying they have the SAME paymasters? If so, I'm sure that's true, in some cases.

I just figure there's a line between the Soros stooges and, for want of a better example, the Kock brother stooges.

But I don't think it's that simple, and that there are the Georgette Mosberger types who have always assumed the Republican Party was their puppet, and I assumed the cabal was such that they often didn't invite the Democrat Party wealthy to the same parties on yachts and private islands... except maybe only occasionally.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (hku12)

219 I donate to individual politicians, after they do something of note.


Donating to the party makes no sense.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:45 PM (WdocV)

220 Olfactory explorations are not efficacious when wearing a mask.

My word as a Biden.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 06, 2020 01:45 PM (DMUuz)

221 The last fundraising call from the RNC I received (despite ignoring them for years) was right after McCain had done his tirade on the Tea Party wacko-birds and I told them that as long as they supported McCain the would get NOTHING from me.

Who else gets texts that say "This is Karl Rove."?

Might want to reconsider that one, geniuses.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 01:45 PM (Boy/L)

222 "How does anal sex help us win the culture war"

I'm starting to think homosexuals might not be the best people to use in conservative politics, call me crazy.

Posted by: DJ3way at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (bhPL1)

223 Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:41 PM (Fs5vw)

Same. And it is makes it worse to find that on the NIH website.

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (NDO5Q)

224 If he actually lifted a finger to try, but was shut down by the rest of Congress, that'd be one thing. But Graham has NEVER gone out on a limb and done anything more than talk.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (EGyGV)

That is about half of what was wrong with the pre-Trump GOP. A lot of them talked a good game, but never followed through. The other half was Globalism, of the Chinese pole-smoking variety.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (J+mig)

225 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

A reason to live in a red state.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (Eicbe)

226 I miss baseball
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)
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Should be the first to open but NASCAR beat 'em

Posted by: jhawk90 at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (/ZYFC)

227 "Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax"

How do you get elected when you are so bad at basic politics? Jeez, this is Politician 101 shit.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (Suck it NYC) at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (5p7BC)

228 Never cared for this effeminate loser.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (G4GU9)

229 You would of thought that NYC would bonus the volunteers who chose to dive into its Wet Market to save NYers. Even NYers hate NYers.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (QQ/iJ)

230 >>People should be informed that that cloth mask they made yesterday isn't going to help them at all. If they still choose to wear it, well ok.

However, because so many people are under the mistaken impression that a cloth mask will help, the mask-wearers "shame" others for not wearing one, and not wanting to wear one. And that definitely goes to power and control.
-- - - -

Hi! My state has just made masks mandatory when outside, and before today, they were already required in stores. Not about my belief in them anymore.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (bDqIh)

231 "How does anal sex help us win the culture war"

___

It sure helps at the end of a day full of zoom meetings and wine bottles.

Posted by: Some Wine Mom at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (WdocV)

232 227 "Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax"

How do you get elected when you are so bad at basic politics? Jeez, this is Politician 101 shit.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (Suck it NYC) at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (5p7BC)

=========

It affects out of state residents working in NY. No NY voters are harmed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (UWqZJ)

233 Why is it that when I see Lindsey Graham I also see Kevin Spacey / Frank Underwood. They look a lot alike and Underwood is also from SC . But there's something else about the two that is just so much the same . I just can't put my finger on it .MB it will come to me.

Posted by: jaytrain at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (eh3OZ)

234 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

***

Cuomo, Guesome or Inslee would be burning her in a public square right now.

Don't worry the masks will protect you from the smoke!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:48 PM (WdocV)

235 Hi! My state has just made masks mandatory when outside, and before today, they were already required in stores. Not about my belief in them anymore.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM


You're one of us Massholes, right, Lizzy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 06, 2020 01:48 PM (ejd/p)

236 234 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

***

Cuomo, Guesome or Inslee would be burning her in a public square right now.

Don't worry the masks will protect you from the smoke!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:48 PM (WdocV)

==========

"The mask! It does nothing!"
-Joan of Ark

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:48 PM (UWqZJ)

237 >>You're one of us Massholes, right, Lizzy?


Uh, MA resident, yes ?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (bDqIh)

238 "Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax"




Bwahahahahahahaha!
Try to help out a dem and get fucked in the ass. Typical.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (At/8G)

239 234 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

Can he pardon her?

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (ZfRYq)

240 New Yawk pols are some greedy bastidges.

Posted by: cornbred at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (A751K)

241 However, because so many people are under the mistaken impression that a cloth mask will help, the mask-wearers "shame" others for not wearing one, and not wanting to wear one. And that definitely goes to power and control.

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (NDO5Q)


That's why I've worn them the couple times I have. I don't want to get into a confrontation with some idiot in public, because I might do something I would later regret.

So in that sense, it protects them. But since I don't really give a damn about protecting them, it's more about protecting me from what I might do to them.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (hku12)

242 Lindsay Graham puts me in mind of Trey Gowdy - both tellers of tales, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Posted by: aelfheld at May 06, 2020 01:50 PM (IxDhF)

243 NBC and Comcast should be made to answer why this man is on television.



"There is a primordial American tradition going back to the Founders of
being freedom obsessed, even though we are a country founded on slavery
and genocide, being freedom obsessed to the point that we're always so
afraid of the government coming for us that we're blind to other types
of threats, whether it's a virus, whether it's bank malfeasance, climate
change, what have you," Giridharadas said
(via Townhall).

Posted by: MSNBC Contributor Anand Giridharadas at May 06, 2020 01:50 PM (NVYyb)

244 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

Can he pardon her?
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (ZfRYq)
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I would believe so.

That judge, pineapple, barbed wire...assembly required.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:50 PM (Eicbe)

245 But there's something else about the two that is just so much the same . I just can't put my finger on it.
Posted by: jaytrain at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM


Confused? I'm good at fingering things out.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 06, 2020 01:50 PM (DMUuz)

246 In honor of ace's Maori comment, I give you Alien Weaponry and their song Kai Tangata:

https://youtu.be/5kwIkF6LFDc

Warning: Video contains significant levels of Maori Posturing and is sung I. Maori.

Also: Fucking Awesome.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2020 01:50 PM (eG0ge)

247 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner! >>

Did he say anything about the crap in Odessa?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:51 PM (2DOZq)

248 So inmates released because COVID

Hairdresser jailed because COVID.


Perfect sense.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 01:51 PM (G4GU9)

249 Uh, MA resident, yes ?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM


Resident? It's too late. You came. You breathed the air. It's wicked pissah.

I'm still wondering what would be different if Tall Deval just declared himself a Democrat at this point.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 06, 2020 01:51 PM (ejd/p)

250 That's why I've worn them the couple times I have. I don't want to get
into a confrontation with some idiot in public, because I might do
something I would later regret.

***

Isn't it amazing how quickly we've gone from "can't ask for ID to vote, can't ask if you are a citizen at all" to "sure the government can mandate you wear arbitrary crap on your face or throw you in jail after beating the sh*t out of you.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:51 PM (WdocV)

251 154
The masks are just like the seven bins of trash to save the Earth.
Compulsory payments to the Left in submission to their idiot religion.


Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:33 PM (hNjG1)

________


Bingo!

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:51 PM (1VOfO)

252 If God worked on the same pace as DC

God would still be on earthworms and flies

nothing of real substance will ever happen

Posted by: REDACTED at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (tQbpU)

253 The "freedom obsessed" talking point shows willful ignorance of human history.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (Boy/L)

254 Maria Bartiromo, red dress, Trump roast of hillary.


Yum.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (KnJdm)

255 207


So sick and tired of Graham pretending to be tough and never getting anything done.

Posted by: iandeal at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (vgGyZ)











If he actually lifted a finger to try, but was shut down by the rest
of Congress, that'd be one thing. But Graham has NEVER gone out on a
limb and done anything more than talk.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 01:42 PM (EGyGV)

Call me a cynic. There were glimmers of home for Graham, and talk even here among the Horde that it looked like he actually grew a pair. But I think that was all for show.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (N39Ws)

256 248 So inmates released because COVID

Hairdresser jailed because COVID.


Perfect sense.
--------------------
Yeah. I notice shit like that. There's always an ugly troll named Karen at the bottom of it.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (QQ/iJ)

257 The 17th Amendment pretty much guaranteed the worthlessness of the Senate as a repository of numbnuts windbags like McCain, Flake, Gaylord[/9i]

I have never understood this argument. How does having a bunch of numbnuts windbag politicians select senators make this any less likely to happen??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (KZzsI)

258 When he praises cuomo or newsome, I feel somewhat
betrayed. I hope he's playing some kind of 5D chess and it will all
make sense one day, but that doesn't help when the Republic seems to be
slipping away by the day.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (LIhNq)

He can't be seen making cheap political war with governors in the opposing party while this is going on. I thought he would have gone real hard at Cuomo with that "essential jobs" crack he made - but Trump has stayed on the side of quality leadership. If he starts a war with Democrat governors, the media will exploit it, say Trump is politicizing the response, and that will break through the low-fo voters.

As most everyone knows by now Trump is extremely savvy about what's important, and you have to trust the process because *nothing* right now is more important than him getting reelected. Nothing. Even to those who are suffering and losing everything, because the suffering and losing everything will be exponential under the next D.

They're not even hiding it. They're pulling out all the stops for a reason.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (hNjG1)

259 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

Can he pardon her?
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (ZfRYq)
---
I would believe so.

That judge, pineapple, barbed wire...assembly required.
Posted by: Axeman


He can't pardon her. There is no crime. (State statute)

This is administrative. Contempt of court.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (At/8G)

260 Pretty sure Graham never murdered three witnesses against him. Unlike a certain spacy actor we all know and hate....

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (WdocV)

261 Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (bDqIh)

Oh, we aren't doing much better in NYS. Still, the more people that are informed about the actual uselessness of masks, the better.

And honestly? If I were in the bucket of people that are most suseptible to COVID-19, I'd want to know that I needed an N95 mask.

Posted by: Ann at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (NDO5Q)

262 So in that sense, it protects them. But since I don't really give a damn about protecting them, it's more about protecting me from what I might do to them.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 0

My friend wears his Lone Ranger mask in the stores. I'm surprised he hasn't went viral.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (7bcfy)

263 I just figure there's a line between the Soros stooges and, for want of a better example, the Kock brother stooges.

A couple years ago Mike Huckabee was on Life Liberty and Levin and he flat out stated that the big donors play both sides and that Trump, who was mostly self financed was free to honor his promises instead of making excuses for nothing changing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (y7DUB)

264 even though we are a country founded on slavery
and genocide
=====

Really? The same claim could be made about most countries.

I hate these people and want them to die horribly.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (vg8iE)

265 "There is a primordial American tradition going back to the Founders of
being freedom obsessed, even though we are a country founded on slavery
and genocide
---
Yeah, I read that to:
---
*I* am not "freedom obsessed". I'm actually, on balance, pretty adjusted to some level of "collectivism". In my opinion, "collectivism" is how we collectively decide the principles we conduct ourselves on.

I understand that there are always winners and losers in a collective process. Some people don't get their way, and they have to, for the good of the social compact, tolerate the decisions of others. I get all that. We can't all have the representative we want at the lever of power.

A BIG, however, though: I don't trust a government that invalidates the entire reason for the shut-down by forcing COVID-positive patients into nursing homes--THE place where they will do the most damage--on the asinine confusion over the 14th amendment. And I don't trust a press that doesn't call out the governors who are INVALIDATING the entire stated reason for the lockdowns, because they are on "the right side".

That's bullshit. I do not abide bullshit. I do not believe that the people would collectively agree upon bullshit.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (Eicbe)

266 Lindsey Graham flapping his jaws on Fox one more time. AND DOING NOTHING. FU Lindsey

Posted by: politic uber alles at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (0hOKG)

267 257 The 17th Amendment pretty much guaranteed the worthlessness of the Senate as a repository of numbnuts windbags like McCain, Flake, Gaylord[/9i]

I have never understood this argument. How does having a bunch of numbnuts windbag politicians select senators make this any less likely to happen??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (KZzsI)

============

One thing about the pre-17th Amendment world of the Senate:

There was a whole lot more turnover. Senators got changed out with relative frequency. Average tenure of a Senator before the Civil War was 4 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (UWqZJ)

268 >>NBC and Comcast should be made to answer why this man is on television.



"There is a primordial American tradition going back to the Founders of being freedom obsessed, even though we are a country founded on slavery
and genocide, being freedom obsessed to the point that we're always so afraid of the government coming for us that we're blind to other types of threats, whether it's a virus, whether it's bank malfeasance, climate
change, what have you," Giridharadas said (via Townhall).

-- - - -

Is he yet another one of those first generation Americans telling us what America should be, which is essentially NOT America?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (bDqIh)

269 If he actually lifted a finger to try, but was shut down by the rest of Congress, that'd be one thing. But Graham has NEVER gone out on a limb and done anything more than talk.


If only he were chairman of a powerful Senate committee with oversight of judicial matters, then we would see some stuff get investigated.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (j8aRL)

270 THE REASON these 'investigations' never go anywhere is because the 'investigators' know at some point the political wheels will turn, and they will be the 'investigated', so it's best not to be too inquisitive while you're on top

Club rules

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (iTXRQ)

271 162
I miss baseball

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)

_________


I say this every evening to my wife after I get home from work. I'm really disappointed that MLB didn't buck the herd mentality -- even if they kept fans away from the ballpark. I'm certain it was fear of lawsuits ...

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (1VOfO)

272 Why is it that when I see Lindsey Graham I also see Kevin Spacey / Frank Underwood. They look a lot alike and Underwood is also from SC . But there's something else about the two that is just so much the same . I just can't put my finger on it .MB it will come to me.
Posted by: jaytrain at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (eh3OZ)


I watched the first season of that show, because I liked the British version.

I recall one episode where Frank is having a college class reunion with his pals, and among other things going on, one of them is still itching for Frank's beans, because they had a one-time thing back in the day.

Frank turns him down.

Miss Lindsey wouldn't turn him down.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)

273 116
Graham will get right on this once McCains eternal funeral is over.



How could you! Its only been 853 days!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:18 PM (KZzsI)



*****



The Maverick has been in Hell 853 days already? Doesn't seem possible

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 06, 2020 01:25 PM (flINI)

We're so tired.

Posted by: Ghana Funeral Procesion at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (34lUx)

274 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I am curious how some of these unreasonable orders are going to stand up in court when the lawsuits begin. There are restrictions on freedom to assemble based on public safety, but as I understand it, there is a pretty high burden on governments.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (Not a lawyer, but not under lockdown either) at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (5p7BC)

275 268 Is he yet another one of those first generation Americans telling us what America should be, which is essentially NOT America?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (bDqIh)

===========

"America should be more like the country that my parents fled so that they could raise me here."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (UWqZJ)

276 That judge, pineapple, barbed wire...assembly required.
Posted by: Axeman


He can't pardon her. There is no crime. (State statute)

This is administrative. Contempt of court.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (At/8G
---
Cool.

Still... some assembly *is* required.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (Eicbe)

277 When he praises cuomo or newsome, I feel somewhat betrayed. I hope he's playing some kind of 5D chess and it will all make sense one day, but that doesn't help when the Republic seems to be slipping away by the day.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (LIhNq)
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Exactly. Is Trump trying to prove that he's fair and expect to get credit for it? Because he won't.

Remember when JEF was passing out all kinds of $ to save car dealerships owned by democrat donors while allowing dealers who had better operations die if they were GOP donors? It's like someone above said, the corruption is staggering and makes me feel physically ill.

Posted by: PennaLady at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (8HBLI)

278 266 Lindsey Graham flapping his jaws on Fox one more time. AND DOING NOTHING. FU Lindsey
Posted by: politic uber alles at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (0hOKG)

He'll be re-elected by a massive majority. And on and on it goes.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (H8QX8)

279
He can't pardon her. There is no crime. (State statute)
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Assumption of private property by a government without due process is a crime.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (QQ/iJ)

280 Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!

A public flaying of the judge would be helpful too.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (ZGrMX)

281
He can't pardon her. There is no crime. (State statute)

This is administrative. Contempt of court.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (At/8G)

So, no pardon. No check nor balance on a Judges Power?

How, Tyranical.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (NgKpN)

282 225
Abbot called for the immediate release of the salon owner!



A reason to live in a red state.





Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:46 PM (Eicbe)

How about a Trump admin writ of habeas corpus? Not even sure how such things work.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (KnJdm)

283 As far as we can tell from archeology and written history, slavery goes back to teh dawn of civilization.

***

It wasn't until a bunch of "right wing Christianist theocrats" started working against it that it was abolished through out most of the world....

And interestingly, the first thing the atheist national and international socialists did was to bring it back.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (WdocV)

284 of course this only applies when Repubs are ascendant

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (iTXRQ)

285 The Maverick has been in Hell 853 days already? Doesn't seem possible

Fucker keeps winning our poker game. And then all the losers have to ride the barbed cock.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (ZGrMX)

286 Weird how people in government have no idea how government is supposed to have checks and balances.

Right, Hawaii Judge?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (G4GU9)

287 277 When he praises cuomo or newsome, I feel somewhat betrayed. I hope he's playing some kind of 5D chess and it will all make sense one day, but that doesn't help when the Republic seems to be slipping away by the day.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (LIhNq)
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Exactly. Is Trump trying to prove that he's fair and expect to get credit for it? Because he won't.
---------------
Psst, Trump's numbers with Independents are at new highs. Don't rock the boat. Trump is letting all the Asswipes reveal themselves in swing states. Shit is happening.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (QQ/iJ)

288 I am curious how some of these unreasonable orders
are going to stand up in court when the lawsuits begin. There are
restrictions on freedom to assemble based on public safety, but as I
understand it, there is a pretty high burden on governments.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (Not a lawyer, but not under lockdown either) at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (5p7BC)

You do?

Posted by: Judge Kamehameha, Eternal Ruler of Your Forever Hawaiian Soul at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (hNjG1)

289 >>"America should be more like the country that my parents fled so that they could raise me here."


Yep, and also with a healthy does of: gee, you Americans are stupid and racist!

Using the royal "we" is a nice touch, Anand.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:57 PM (bDqIh)

290 I have never understood this argument. How does having a bunch of numbnuts windbag politicians select senators make this any less likely to happen??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (KZzsI)


They have to weigh their actions on how they impact who's running their home state. It's the mechanism the Founders created to counter mob rule in the House and boost state's rights.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:57 PM (y7DUB)

291 Funny how many of the denizens of the sub-continent come to America to escape their evil, impoverished, caste-based society only to actively support the installation of a new set of American Brahmins 15 minutes after arrival.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:57 PM (5bg3W)

292 Two Weeks

Any minute now

tick tock

Blah,blah,blah

Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (nF1Vl)

293 They're not even hiding it. They're pulling out all the stops for a reason.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (hNjG1)

Agree 100%

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (LIhNq)

294 How about a Trump admin writ of habeas corpus? Not even sure how such things work.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (KnJdm

Her lawyer was on Beck today saying that was the next step. The Writ, not Trump Admin

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (G4GU9)

295 A public flaying of the judge would be helpful too.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 

He should be doxxed.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (4Q1w7)

296 Guy commenting on Twitchy about the Abbott order:
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Tell the judge if he apologizes and admits to being a fascist asshole, then he can get off with a warning instead of being tarred and feathered.
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I approve this message.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (Eicbe)

297 OK O/T but had a weird thought.

I could never figure out why in the hell we were sending money to china for research.

Just hit me after watching the video of the Doctor earlier.

She got blacklisted because she dropped a dime on Fetal Tissue research in the US. Fauci was involved in that.

It was then outlawed here.

Is that why it was being done in China? Taxpayer funded Fetal Tissue research outsourced overseas?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (NgKpN)

298 There was a whole lot more turnover. Senators got changed out with relative frequency. Average tenure of a Senator before the Civil War was 4 years.

Yeah but was that because of the law or American culture?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (KZzsI)

299 so it's best not to be too inquisitive while you're on top

***

I've often thought Trump should publicly announce he is setting up a China collusion investigation in the FBI, CIA, and NSA to look at Biden's dealing with China....let the FNM go nuts....and then ask why it is suddenly bad in 2020 when it was ok in 2016?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (WdocV)

300 The people in gulags were pretty freedom obsessed too. At least they learned their lesson. Unlike *some* people.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (hNjG1)

301 When he praises cuomo or newsome, I feel somewhat betrayed. I hope he's playing some kind of 5D chess and it will all make sense one day, but that doesn't help when the Republic seems to be slipping away by the day.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 01:44 PM (LIhNq)
+++++++++++++
Based on a lot of prior examples, when Trump says someone is "great" or "fine" it means one of two things:
1) Trump thinks the person is great
2) Trump thinks the person is an asswipe but is actively negotiating or setting something up and you don't badmouth an opponent during those activities.

I mean, he says nice things about Xi and Kim for cryin' out loud.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (hYcqw)

302 So in that sense, it protects them. But since I don't really give a damn about protecting them, it's more about protecting me from what I might do to them.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 0

My friend wears his Lone Ranger mask in the stores. I'm surprised he hasn't went viral.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (7bcfy)


Nick DiPaolo has a couple masks for sale, one with Trump ripping off his shirt, and I forget what the other one is, but it says something provocative.

Which, I'd buy one, but it would sorta defeat my purpose. If I'm going to have to tell somebody to go F themselves, I can do that better without any mask on.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (hku12)

303 294
How about a Trump admin writ of habeas corpus? Not even sure how such things work.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:55 PM (KnJdm



Her lawyer was on Beck today saying that was the next step. The Writ, not Trump Admin

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (G4GU9)

Cool. This judge needs a smackdown, and quick.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (KnJdm)

304 Posted by: Some Wine Mom at May 06, 2020 01:47 PM (WdocV)

Call me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (SMJvk)

305 It wasn't until a bunch of "right wing Christianist theocrats" started working against it that it was abolished through out most of the world....

Or, you know, a giant army of white soldiers to fight the war that ended it here.

The logical fallacy in the "founded on slavery" BS is that nothing changed after. A great deal changed except the desire of some to people to rule over others.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (Boy/L)

306 Maria Bartiromo Presses Lindsey Graham

Like with a hot iron?

Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (IvOed)

307 Funny how many of the denizens of the sub-continent come to America to escape their evil, impoverished, caste-based society only to actively support the installation of a new set of American Brahmins 15 minutes after arrival.

I've noticed that too. Dot Indians in America are frequently either very conservative or hyper SJW, there's not much middle ground.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (ZGrMX)

308 I looooove Maria Bartiromo! She has more cajones than all of the pansies working at CNN, MSNBC, and Graham put together!!!

Posted by: J Dougs at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (z/x03)

309 >>> I miss baseball

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)

Me too. Drove out to the Field of Dreams site last Friday to check on the progress on the field for this August's MLB game. Looks like the subsurface is complete, and the outfield lights are all up.

Hopefully soon.

Posted by: Turn Two at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (+AVpa)

310 They have to weigh their actions on how they impact who's running their home state. It's the mechanism the Founders created to counter mob rule in the House and boost state's rights.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:57 PM (y7DUB)
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Yup. The House was the People's House. The Senate was the States' House. Now we have two People's Houses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (hYcqw)

311 Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (NgKpN)

Ooh, sounds right. Moloch is a hungry mistress.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (hNjG1)

312 It wasn't until a bunch of "right wing Christianist theocrats" started working against it that it was abolished through out most of the world....
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Muum, not really. It was the creation of the Nation State (earliest were Portugal and Spain) that posited that the Nation State protects its own people from becoming slaves. It didn't mean the Nation State was responsible for combating slavery worldwide. The crazy Quakers came later and caused a great deal of death by not reading the Bible.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (QQ/iJ)

313 They have to weigh their actions on how they impact who's running their home state. It's the mechanism the Founders created to counter mob rule in the House and boost state's rights.

The same people elect both bodies. How often is a Senator from a state different than the ruling party of the state's legislature?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (KZzsI)

314 In South Carolina, the only Republican who could challenge Graham is Joe Wilson. And he won't take him on. I suspect he would run for the Senate seat when Graham retires, if that isn't 20 years in the future.




Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (ZfRYq)

315 >>Is that why it was being done in China? Taxpayer funded Fetal Tissue research outsourced overseas?

And coronavirus research.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (ZLI7S)

316 283 As far as we can tell from archeology and written history, slavery goes back to teh dawn of civilization.

***

It wasn't until a bunch of "right wing Christianist theocrats" started working against it that it was abolished through out most of the world....

And interestingly, the first thing the atheist national and international socialists did was to bring it back.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (WdocV)

Nah, never any slaves prior to the US, right Pharoh?

Posted by: Moses at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (NgKpN)

317 Psst, Trump's numbers with Independents are at new highs. Don't rock the boat. Trump is letting all the Asswipes reveal themselves in swing states. Shit is happening.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (QQ/iJ)
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I agree. And I've accepted that it may be for the best if Witchmer keeps Michigan in lock-down--however much it bugs the piss out of me. It's good for even red-people to suffer in blue states if it ends up following Axeman's rule #1: Democrats shouldn't run anything anywhere.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (Eicbe)

318 Here's the Oregon numbers for Wuflu. Keep in mind she has the state locked down until after July 4th.

https://tinyurl.com/yaa58law

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (Lqy/e)

319 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (KnJdm)

I so wanted to listen to that but had to turn dude off when he admonished the Michigan protesters. Dude had the balls to talk about what is helping our cause, well, last I checked motherfucker you did your damndest to make sure Hilary got the nomination.

Fuck you and Hannity. Pussies.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (SMJvk)

320 163
Paul Ryan talked a very good game. He had me fooled when he was running
with Pierre. Maybe I was just desparate to find something that would
make me want to vote for the ticket rather than be resigned to voting
for the republicans.

Posted by: PennaLady at May 06, 2020 01:35 PM (8HBLI)

__________


I was assured that he was an acolyte of Ayn Rand -- just like the staunch and principled pro-individualists, liberty-loving, laissez-faire capitalists Alan Greenspan and a young Hillary.

Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (Z+YK6)

321 It wasn't until a bunch of "right wing Christianist theocrats" started working against it that it was abolished through out most of the world....

And interestingly, the first thing the atheist national and
international socialists did was to bring it back.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (WdocV)

The case against slavery is a moral one, predicated on the notion that we are created equal by God.

If you pull out the root, the rest has nothing to stand on.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (J+mig)

322
New Yawk pols are some greedy bastidges.
Posted by: cornbred at May 06, 2020 01:49 PM (A751K)






It's not really about the money. It's about New Yawk's utter contempt for all of the untermenschen who don't live in The City. Even when New Yawk whines about needing help, they have to make sure that the unpeople know that they're obligated to jump when New Yawk sneezes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (EGyGV)

323
Yeah but was that because of the law or American culture?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM


prior to the 17th Amendment, the States could recall their senators if they felt they were not representing the interest of the State

hence the shorter tenures of senators

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (nPR6O)

324 298 There was a whole lot more turnover. Senators got changed out with relative frequency. Average tenure of a Senator before the Civil War was 4 years.

Yeah but was that because of the law or American culture?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (KZzsI)

=========

It was because state legislatures wanted people in the Senate who did what they wanted, not what the senators themselves wanted.

There was a lot of recalling and resignations because senators wouldn't follow through on orders.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (UWqZJ)

325 My prayer is that this experience with Dems in the 2020 election cycle and how they've been acting during the fake pandemic will wake up more Americans than ever.

I'd like to believe in a heavy voter swing to the right as a result. People need shaken from their slumber and made aware this isn't new. It's been headed this way for a while

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (G4GU9)

326
I've noticed that too. Dot Indians in America are frequently either
very conservative or hyper SJW, there's not much middle ground.
***

Becoming an SJW gets your promoted at tech companies.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (WdocV)

327 And coronavirus research.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (ZLI7S)

I don't think Corona virus research in and of itself would be illegal here in the US.

So why outsource? There must have been a reason.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (NgKpN)

328 So, no pardon. No check nor balance on a Judges Power?

How, Tyranical.
Posted by: Romeo13


Judges can keep you locked up a long time under "contempt of court" rulings.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (At/8G)

329 2) Trump thinks the person is an asswipe but is actively negotiating or setting something up and you don't badmouth an opponent during those activities.
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Its the Michael Corleone way.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (QQ/iJ)

330 314 In South Carolina, the only Republican who could challenge Graham is Joe Wilson. And he won't take him on. I suspect he would run for the Senate seat when Graham retires, if that isn't 20 years in the future.




Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (ZfRYq)

========

Tom Davis' name got floated for a while, but he was smart enough to know that it was a fool's errand.

Plus his cause celebre became medical marijuana.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (UWqZJ)

331 Exactly. Is Trump trying to prove that he's fair and expect to get credit for it? Because he won't.
---------------
Psst, Trump's numbers with Independents are at new highs. Don't rock the boat. Trump is letting all the Asswipes reveal themselves in swing states. Shit is happening.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 01:56 PM (QQ/iJ)

That is reassuring about the independents. I guess my thing is that I see the asswipes exposing themselves and 30 years ago, I would like to believe, they would have been run out on a rail. Not so much these days.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (LIhNq)

332 Call me a cynic. There were glimmers of home for Graham, and talk even here among the Horde that it looked like he actually grew a pair. But I think that was all for show.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 01:52 PM (N39Ws)

----------------

I think cynics are cute and playful. Meet the new Mz Linsey, same as the old Mz Linsey. Ditto for every worthless corksorker Senator with an R behind their name not named Cruz. They're all traitors who deserve a Judge Roy Bean-style trial and a nice hanging.

Posted by: cornbred at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (A751K)

333 So why outsource? There must have been a reason.
***

Someone was getting a kick back?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (WdocV)

334 It was the creation of the Nation State (earliest were Portugal and Spain) that posited that the Nation State protects its own people from becoming slaves.

Treaty of Westphalia, it set up the concept of nation states being independent and banned the concept of invading another country to fix it just because you disagreed with how they did things. But there are always people who insist it must be done.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)

335 I just figure there's a line between the Soros stooges and, for want of a better example, the Kock brother stooges.
-------------------
A couple years ago Mike Huckabee was on Life Liberty and Levin and he flat out stated that the big donors play both sides and that Trump, who was mostly self financed was free to honor his promises instead of making excuses for nothing changing.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 01:53 PM (y7DUB)


I'm really not familiar with how much crossover there is. It would not surprise me in the least if it is rather high. For congresscritters and senators, I mean.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)

336 I don't think Corona virus research in and of itself would be illegal here in the US.

So why outsource? There must have been a reason.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (NgKpN)

Hiding and global players

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (LIhNq)

337 State judges can be impeached and removed from office by their state legislatures.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (5bg3W)

338 BREAKING NEWS: US host Luke Denman paraded on Venezuelan TV and 'admits to plot yo capture Nicolas Maduro

https://tinyurl.com/y9fx6mft

Posted by: redridinghood at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (wiXsO)

339 hostage

Posted by: redridinghood at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (wiXsO)

340 I've noticed that too. Dot Indians in America are frequently either very conservative or hyper SJW, there's not much middle ground.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (ZGrMX)


My son in law's family in Delhi hates the rock worshipers more than I do, which I thought was borderline unpossible. The Apple corporate culture tries brainwashing him so I have to do sporadic interventions, a task I willfully execute.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (y7DUB)

341 >>I don't think Corona virus research in and of itself would be illegal here in the US.

>>So why outsource? There must have been a reason.

It doesn't have to be illegal. It has to be out of sight.

Go back and listen to the video where Dr Milovits talks about the evolution of corona viruses.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (ZLI7S)

342 328 So, no pardon. No check nor balance on a Judges Power?

How, Tyranical.
Posted by: Romeo13


Judges can keep you locked up a long time under "contempt of court" rulings.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 02:02 PM (At/8G)

It's not so much the length per "contempt of court", but that they can just do it repeatedly until you submit.

Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (Zm+LZ)

343 Her lawyer was on Beck today saying that was the next step. The Writ, not Trump Admin

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 06, 2020 01:58 PM (G4GU9)

Cool. This judge needs a smackdown, and quick.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 06, 2020 01:59 PM (KnJdm)

Open a Federal Civil Rights violation case against the Judge.

Under the post Civil War law about conspiring to take away civil rights.

As a Black Judge, that would be epic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (NgKpN)

344 >Its the Michael Corleone way.
Posted by: Puddin Head


keep your friends close, and your enemies closer

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (iTXRQ)

345 So why outsource? There must have been a reason.

My guess is that the theory would be "the more researchers around the world working on the same problem, the better" Plus, other nations would not have pesky restrictions on certain types of research we find unethical like hacking up babies to use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (KZzsI)

346 The case against slavery is a moral one, predicated on the notion that we are created equal by God.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (J+mig)


Meh - I'm anti-slavery because I'm a Capitalist, and nobody is owed the fruits of another's labor.

But I'm against all kinds of shit that some people, including some Republicans, are for. For me - it's not about morals. It's about freedom and capitalism.

Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:05 PM (K4eq3)

347 As far as we can tell from archeology and written history, slavery goes back to teh dawn of civilization.
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And it had more extreme forms. I always chuckle when I hear black people stridently claim "We were Egyptians!"

Oh, so you *killed* slaves to serve their masters eternally, right?

Egypt was the most extreme practitioner of slavery. If you were enslaved to an Egyptian master they killed you so that you would serve your master in the afterlife for eternity.

And, if the Bible be believed, they culled a slave population that had bred too robustly.

Go ahead, undying foes to Slavery, claim Egypt. Claim it proudly.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 02:05 PM (Eicbe)

348
It was the creation of the Nation State (earliest were Portugal and
Spain) that posited that the Nation State protects its own people from
becoming slaves.

***

Tribes performed the same role previously. The notion of "I don't want my people to be slaves" is an old one.


The notion of "I don't want anyone to be a slave, even if my tribe/country gets the benefits" was the new thing the Christianity brought out.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 02:05 PM (WdocV)

349
Using the royal "we" is a nice touch, Anand.
Posted by: Lizzy

========

Eff that guy with his phallic hairdo in particular.

I loved it when Lawrence O'Donnell had him on his show and couldn't pronounce his name. "Guh-gerr-hod-gerr-had--"

It was such a wypipo thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 06, 2020 02:05 PM (SFAhl)

350 277 >>Jeezus Jack...

>>I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.

>>That's a scary video...

I've watched about 6 times since I came across it yesterday. I've known for years that US funding of science and overseas aid is a sewer of corruption but that video helps put it in graphic terms.

And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.

*If he wins, we all hang.*

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

**************

??????

Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?

And who is "we"? The American people? The deep state?

Thanks.

(From last thread about the film)

Posted by: El Jefe at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (Ae67h)

351 BREAKING NEWS: US host Luke Denman paraded on Venezuelan TV and 'admits to plot yo capture Nicolas Maduro

Six dumbasses stumbling around in the dark don't make a coup. But it would make a good comedy movie.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (Boy/L)

352
The same people elect both bodies. How often is a Senator from a state different than the ruling party of the state's legislature?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM


that's the point: if the State legislatures were appointing senators (along party lines) the Senate would be about 70 R / 30 D

instead, here in michigan, we have a fairly solid RINO State legislature, but the "people" keep sending Lil'Debbie Stabenaw & Gary F'n Peters to the Senate

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (nPR6O)

353 It's great that she called him out on this. I doubted anyone would do it.

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Tucker never interviewed, but repeatedly dragged him across the boards for this, and months ago. At least four. Lindsey is what he is. A snake.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (EQRLd)

354 The case against slavery is a moral one, predicated on the notion that we are created equal by God.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (J+mig)

Meh - I'm anti-slavery because I'm a Capitalist, and nobody is owed the fruits of another's labor.

Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:05 PM (K4eq3)
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You've just affirmed the universal access to this principle. Most likely thorugh the attributed "equality" of men.

You may "meh", but it really shows (me) you don't know exactly with the concepts you deal with.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (Eicbe)

355 I'm really not familiar with how much crossover there is. It would not surprise me in the least if it is rather high. For congresscritters and senators, I mean.

It's not just Soros and Koch anymore, either, the Gates Foundation's becoming a player too. No shortage of cocksuckers who want to destroy the system who made them rich.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (ZGrMX)

356 >>Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?

He is Donald J. Trump.

Hilary said that during the last election.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (ZLI7S)

357 nood

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (vDlBn)

358 My guess is that the theory would be "the more researchers around the world working on the same problem, the better" Plus, other nations would not have pesky restrictions on certain types of research we find unethical like hacking up babies to use.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:04 PM (KZzsI)

That's what I'd like to know.

Were they doing Fetal Tissue Research at that lab.

Fauci was involved in that type of research before.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (NgKpN)

359 Miss Lindsey has an election coming up so he just wants to sound tough. I got a text from him asking for $5.00

Fuck Miss Lindsey.

Posted by: David LeBlanc at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (yc3le)

360 The mask deniers are becoming their own cult. Virtue signaling how much better they are than those of us that choose to wear one because it helps , not because we think it prevents 100% of all transmission. They are getting as tiresome as the motorcycle riders who scream pridefully about not wearing a helmet.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (+4yX/)

361 345 So why outsource? There must have been a reason.
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Same reason we gutted our country to make China rich. They thought the Chinese would be grateful and thus join us in simple harmony and drink a Coca Cola.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 02:08 PM (QQ/iJ)

362 And it had more extreme forms.

***

The Muslim world important more black African slaves then the Americas did.


Look around the Americas and you see their descendants. Look around the middle east and you don't.

Odd that isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 02:08 PM (WdocV)

363 instead, here in michigan, we have a fairly solid RINO State legislature, but the "people" keep sending Lil'Debbie Stabenaw & Gary F'n Peters to the Senate

Several states have Senators to the left of their state legislatures. Which is why the progs wanted direct election in the first place.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2020 02:08 PM (ZGrMX)

364 It's not just Soros and Koch anymore, either, the Gates Foundation's becoming a player too. No shortage of cocksuckers who want to destroy the system who made them rich.
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It was the Pritzkers who recruited, groomed and inserted Obama into the IL Senate, then US Senate. Billionaire Fellow Travelers look after each other.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2020 02:10 PM (QQ/iJ)

365 The mask deniers are becoming their own cult.


Uh no.


Snotting into a filthy mask because the government lied to you is not normal. You can do whatever you like.

But the virtue-signaling is definitely coming from the strap-on spit-saver contingent.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 02:10 PM (vDlBn)

366
"America should be more like the country that my parents fled so that they could raise me here."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

==========

Does anyone understand this sociopathy? Is it something like resentment that your own ancient civilization is a modern failure, so you resent the upstart barbarian newbie who saved your ass?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 06, 2020 02:10 PM (SFAhl)

367 https://cbsloc.al/3bc8Q6p
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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton Calls For 'Immediate Release' Of Jailed Dallas Salon Owner Shelley Luther CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 02:11 PM (Lrula)

368 Same reason we gutted our country to make China rich. They thought the Chinese would be grateful and thus join us in simple harmony and drink a Coca Cola.

I'm sure that played into it as well. China has almost completely corrupted our national structures in the old original sense of the word: bought them with piles of cash.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:11 PM (KZzsI)

369 Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (+4yX/)

Appreciate your concern on this matter.

Unless you have a disease or sickness the mask, outside of the N95, does fuck all in reality to protect yourself.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:12 PM (SMJvk)

370 As an interesting anecdote - historically you'll find some Northern European features in Southern European nobility because the wandering German tribes conquered the locals and ruled them for a long time (especially in Iberia) and then intermarried with them up until the present.


You'll also historically find similar features among Turkish nobility - but they didn't actually have many interactions with northern Europe - they did however love to raid the Caucus region to enslave their blonde haired, light eyed women.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 02:12 PM (WdocV)

371 Is it something like resentment that your own ancient civilization is a modern failure, so you resent the upstart barbarian newbie who saved your ass?

"heap bad people save me from living in dirt and starving all winter"
--Native Americans

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:13 PM (KZzsI)

372 You may "meh", but it really shows (me) you don't know exactly with the concepts you deal with.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 02:06 PM (Eicbe)


I simply don't accept some of the notions of what is or is not "moral". I find the definitions often offered up to be pretty damn subjective as well as self serving.

But hey - snide away. I'm sure your definitions are superior to all others.

Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:13 PM (K4eq3)

373 Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2020 02:08 PM (WdocV)

Nothing like the rush of smashing an African baby's skull against a rock because the mother isn't marching at a frantic pace.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:13 PM (SMJvk)

374 Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:13 PM (K4eq3)

Are you religious? I think this is where the disconnect sets in.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:14 PM (SMJvk)

375
360 The mask deniers are becoming their own cult. Virtue signaling how much better they are than those of us that choose to wear one because it helps , not because we think it prevents 100% of all transmission. They are getting as tiresome as the motorcycle riders who scream pridefully about not wearing a helmet.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (+4yX/)


Ok Karen.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 02:14 PM (G2zl5)

376 356 >>Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?

He is Donald J. Trump.

Hilary said that during the last election.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (ZLI7S)

*****

Ahhhh.....got it.

That makes sense.

Posted by: El Jefe at May 06, 2020 02:15 PM (Ae67h)

377 Call me a cynic. There were glimmers of home for Graham, and talk even here among the Horde that it looked like he actually grew a pair. But I think that was all for show.

Must have shoved a set of Truck Nutz down "his" pants.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at May 06, 2020 02:15 PM (0CeRG)

378 The mask deniers are becoming their own cult. Virtue signaling how much better they are than those of us that choose to wear one because it helps , not because we think it prevents 100% of all transmission.

I hate to be That Guy but maybe the middle ground makes more sense: wear a mask if you feel more safe in one or have a cough, but don't demand everyone does all the time?

Once the food shortages hit us, all this is gonna go away though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:16 PM (KZzsI)

379 Well, Lindsay's daddy was named Florence, so there's that (and I'm not even kidding)...
His carefully worded "outburst" that everybody loved last year was another tell: he pulled the most damaging punch he could have thrown but surrounded it with a lot of tough-guy talk. I knew then that he was "all mouth and no trousers."

Posted by: Beverly at May 06, 2020 02:17 PM (0KiA5)

380 I simply don't accept some of the notions of what is or is not "moral". I find the definitions often offered up to be pretty damn subjective as well as self serving.

But hey - snide away. I'm sure your definitions are superior to all others.

Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:13 PM (K4eq3)
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But you do accept it. Because your stated principle is easily realized by many to be a moral one.

You can consider it "snide", but I would submit that you don't deep dive into these considerations because you followed up your original recognition of equality with a claim that you *don't accept* what you, in review, *do accept*.

It's not snide, because it's fine with me if you become an unwitting illustration of what you're trying to in some way counter. But, I'm going to point out the illustration, nonetheless.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 02:20 PM (Eicbe)

381 Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:13 PM (K4eq3)

Are you religious? I think this is where the disconnect sets in.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:14 PM (SMJvk)


Undecided. "Religion" seems fine. The people that practice it seem to be almost as self-serving and malevolent as those who don't - at least in my experience. Tyranny of the well intentioned and all that.

I don't trust "morality" as the deciding argument for anything. It's vague - it's not really concretely defined - and it's easily twisted.

I'm either uniquely moral or completely immoral - depending on who you ask.

Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:21 PM (K4eq3)

382 Are you religious? I think this is where the disconnect sets in.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:14 PM (SMJvk)
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I would guess that's what he or she is "protesting", is the "need" to import God into the non-empirical "equality" of man.

He or she, would probably cite something like "Reason" or "Rationality" as the principle by which they discern these things. But rationality is a quality of process--it doesn't determine inputs.

Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 02:23 PM (Eicbe)

383 Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:21 PM (K4eq3)

If you're undecided your stance makes sense. The bible governs my morality, I fall short of it but hey.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 06, 2020 02:24 PM (SMJvk)

384 He or she, would probably cite something like "Reason" or "Rationality" as the principle by which they discern these things.

Nope - Reason is as easily twisted as Morality. That shit is all in the eye of the beholder. Ordering Society based on either means a constant battle to define the words.

Fuck that. It won't last. It can't.

Posted by: Just How Things Are at May 06, 2020 02:38 PM (K4eq3)

385 313---The same people elect both bodies. How often is a Senator from a state different than the ruling party of the state's legislature?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 02:00 PM (KZzsI)
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It happens.
Until the last election (2019,) the Virginia Senate was GOP but both US Senators are Dems.

VA has gone blue as far as statewide elections go because NoVA provides a sure margin of victory for any Dem. But it's a bit trickier with off-year elections coming out of many districts.

BTW, I think one of the most devastating changes to the American polity was when states were forced to change senate districts to correspond with population.

Back in the days when the city of Bumfuck and the city of Richmond each had one senator, when Boondock County and Crowded Suburb County each had one, the state senate was damned conservative and rural areas had a lot of say.

But then SCOTUS decided that setting up a bicameral legislature on EXACTLY the same principles as the federal Constitution mysteriously violated .... the Constitution.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 06, 2020 02:43 PM (M/9m0)

386 I saw Goody Osburn conversing with the devil--and she *wasn't* wearing a mask!!!

Posted by: Modern Puritans at May 06, 2020 02:45 PM (Eicbe)

387 The mask deniers are becoming their own cult.
Virtue signaling how much better they are than those of us that choose
to wear one because it helps , not because we think it prevents 100% of
all transmission. They are getting as tiresome as the motorcycle riders
who scream pridefully about not wearing a helmet.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2020 02:07 PM (+4yX/)

The problem is that masks are marginally effective, at best. If you are wearing an N95, not touching your face, not getting sprayed in the eyes, and washing your hands, you're in good shape. You have a cloth mask, it's not doing much. "But it blocks aerosols!" Sure, and all of that is built up on your mask. Touch that just once and anything you touch is contaminated. Plus, it's not blocking fine particulates.

I don't care if someone wants to wear one. In my opinion, it's a worthless exercise in trying to control something you have little control over for a disease that is like the flu in impact.

Posted by: WOPR at May 06, 2020 02:47 PM (dSwWw)

388 Phfukin Fraud Graham has lied like this before... after the concocted impeachment ended on 5 Feb, over a totally legitimate PDT call w/Ukraine Pres. Volodymyr Zelensky. On 6 Feb. Graham claimed, again publicly, he'd "launch an investigation next week" with subpoenas issued to Schiff, Nadler, Atkinson, Vindman, etc. which would have been Wednesday the following week on 12 Feb.

He also promised (again) as also then chair of sen. Judiciary Committee he'd investigate Muh Russia pulling in Co-me, McCabe, et. al. under subpoena as he did after Ukrain impeachment attempt. Again, nothing happened. But he's that obnoxious self-aggrandized Cuck fbi lapel wearing "rank-'n-file" suck-up Sean Hannity. Another of Hannity's go to muts.

Now, watch the stewpidt normies in S.C. re-elect this Cuck. The general ignorance of the elctorate is why we're perpetually in this mess... and too bad appointments made by PDT, i.e. Wray (arguably the worst), Tillerson and several more.

Posted by: featherstone at May 06, 2020 03:00 PM (+/4Mh)

389 Never gonna happen. The US Senate is a club which protects Senators. The Senate Intelligence committee was up to it's neck in all the fake, illegal, and seditious shenanigans against Flynn and Trump. Burr (R) and Warner (D) and their aids were involved in the plotting and leaking along with TDS McCain. So the only Republican US Senator in the Republican controlled senate who can subpeona records and people refuses to do it. Remember that the next time the RNC or Republican Senate Campaign Committee asks for money.

Posted by: Viator at May 06, 2020 03:11 PM (89mvl)

390 Agreed, Ace.

Miss Lindsey was giving excuses about not going after The Hag during an interview one day. I found myself talking to the radio. Make that screaming at no one and only succeeding in venting frustration for a fleeting moment. There is not a statute of limitations on Treason. If he means any of what he says, he will investigate treason, damn it.

He is indeed a gas bag posturing like a Maori warrior.

Pretty sure he would get exposed. He may as well take the fifth.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at May 06, 2020 03:26 PM (gJ9O0)

391 It was because state legislatures wanted people in the Senate who did what they wanted, not what the senators themselves wanted.

There was a lot of recalling and resignations because senators wouldn't follow through on orders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (UWqZJ)

...and if the 17th Amendment were ever repealed, you'd get Senators from blue states with marching orders to have the feds pay for their states' mismanagement. For starters.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 04:31 PM (zqhdn)

392 just proves what I've always said...

remember what they do, not what they say

Posted by: Shoey at May 06, 2020 07:10 PM (hmNVd)

393 "Plandemic"
https://tinyurl.com/y8zzudnz

Fauci is a Swamp Creature and a criminal.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 08:18 PM (vDlBn)

394 Mock mask wearers.

Posted by: TeleSkier at May 06, 2020 08:21 PM (ua1m6)

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