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New Jersey's Fascist Liberal Governor Phil Murphy: I Wasn't Thinking About the Bill of Rights When I Ordered Churchgoers to Be Arrested En Masse
Full video here. As Tucker presses him on what legal authority he has to overrule the Bill of Rights, Phil Murphy keeps saying "science."
But then, it turns out he's also unable to answer very, very basic questions about the "science" he's citing as his authority to repeal the Constitution. He also can't explain what "science" says that it's safe for people to be in close contact in a liquor store, but not in a synogogue.Tucker Carlson asks New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy where he got the authority to nullify the Bill of rights when he banned religious services in his state:
— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 16, 2020
"I wasn't thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this... The science says people have to stay away from each other." pic.twitter.com/DPQ5d2DFl2
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2020 01:26 PM (YS7ZU)
Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2020 01:26 PM (YS7ZU)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 16, 2020 01:27 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: hawkpilot at April 16, 2020 01:28 PM (luWin)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 16, 2020 01:28 PM (gLvCH)
also we have money they can steal
because dems are just mafiosi
Posted by: BlackOrchidMasked at April 16, 2020 01:28 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:28 PM (pw+jk)
if they really wanted to report the truth, that is what they would do.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 16, 2020 01:29 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 16, 2020 01:29 PM (N8G3E)
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at April 16, 2020 01:29 PM (9Wk1C)
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at April 16, 2020 01:29 PM (JY8Ei)
Never thought of it that way. This "crisis" is teaching us a lot of interesting things.
Posted by: Caliban at April 16, 2020 01:29 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: IP at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (CTv2h)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (l4C/z)
He seems to be retarded.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: runner at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (l4C/z)
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
Posted by: hawkpilot at April 16, 2020 01:31 PM (luWin)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:31 PM (LvTSG)
1. If the schools are closed shouldn't I get an 85% tax refund?
2. Since the police are no longer effectively working shouldn't I get the reaming 15% tax refund?
That took a lot of control to get out without laughing out my coffee through my nose.
Thank me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:31 PM (pw+jk)
Purge Night When?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (l4C/z)
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Is this Maggie Thatcher that this reminds me of?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:32 PM (LvTSG)
Ft.Dix, 1985. First time this farm kid experienced the likes of the dregs from NJ/NY/PA. I wasn't impressed.
Posted by: IP at April 16, 2020 01:32 PM (CTv2h)
Posted by: MrObvious at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (5prN7)
You'll still get the reaming.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (oVJmc)
Governor Phil Murphy
@GovMurphy
To all the jackasses out there who we now have to carry -- get with the program. We know who you are and we will not relent until we have 100% compliance.
https://bit.ly/2VD67gJ
Gov. Murphy's intsincts are totalitarian.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Bert G at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (6uOPZ)
Posted by: JT at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (Ho6FD)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:28 PM (pw+jk)
90% of the electorate who eagerly voted for him say no.
CBD, NGU et al notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (pS94+)
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 01:34 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (Ho6FD)
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14th Amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:34 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (o9cfh)
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (Ho6FD)
He admits that the BoR is "above his pay grade." An elected US official. A governor.
Not that he even gives a shit, whether it was or was not within his power to do what he did.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pS94+)
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (Ho6FD)
Posted by: Dem Gov at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Bosk at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (9m9TT)
Obesity #1 risk factor after age.
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
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1. This is from the LA Times so I am 98% sure it is a bullshit lie.
2. Article is ginning up fake support for Newsome to outlaw fat people.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 01:34 PM (ONvIw)
Don't give him any ideas.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pS94+)
Posted by: Dem Gov at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (JFO2v)
Branch COVIDians?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (pS94+)
"You say that you were not thinking of the Bill of Rights when you ordered churchgoers to be arrested, and this begs an additional question. When *do* you think about the Bill of Rights, governor? When does the Bill of Rights enter into your proposal or decision-making processes?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (hYcqw)
There is no provision in the Constitution for the suspension of basic rights in an epidemic.
The police power (passing laws to secure health safety and welfare) is nigh unlimited in states and local jurisdictions. That is why we still have blue laws in some places. Under the police power, individuals can be quarantined if they pose a threat to the safety of others as evidenced through the traditional English powers exercised in events like the plague of 1665 and earlier outbreaks. They can quarantine a family who is sick. They can shut down marketplaces. They can do lots of things PROVIDED they bear a reasonable relationship to the stated goal.
There is no rational basis for half of these absurd rules going on right now. Even quarantining sick individuals power theoretically should be accompanied by notice and an opportunity for hearing under our constitutional concept of due process, but a statute can certainly convey the basic authority to quarantine.
Witless Whitmer and this asshole mayor think that they can make any rule at all and say "COVID" and make it OK.
All I can say in response is: "That's real retarded, sir."
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (uKiy5)
And I noticed he never did actually answer Tucker's question about arresting a lone beachgoer. He went about out of state tags that made him suspend NJ citizen rights or something.
I went to basic training in New Jersey, biggest shithole I had seen until the bus went through DC on the way to AIT
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 16, 2020 01:29 PM (N8G3E)
My last trip (and I do mean LAST) to the east coast was back in the 90s, and we stayed in Atlantic City. Except for the casinos, that entire town was mostly shithoe. Trump's casino was the flashiest casino in town, but not all that big.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (Z4rgH)
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (Ho6FD)
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14th applies the constitution to the states. It was how they made the state issue of slavery a federal issue post-Civil war.
States are not allowed to go against the Bill of Rights after the 14th amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (V+U0x)
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Matters not - SCOTUS has ruled that states are constrained by the 1A just as much as the Federal Government is.
Whether that's originalist or not is now a moot point - states cannot impede free speech, forbid worship, etc.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (TB7HE)
He swore to hold up the Constitution. Or something.
Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (VP1E6)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (Hcsoi)
You'll still get the reaming.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
Geez, you gotta be quick around here.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (wXHOL)
Posted by: rd at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Bosk at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (9m9TT)
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Reminds me of the Illinois representative during the ACA debate who said that he didn't care about the constitution.
He got voted out the next election, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bruce at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 01:37 PM (JKNZq)
The ONLY recourse we have to Remedy this Totalitarianism is....
simply overwhelm the System by making The Man arrest us ALL.
Full Defiance.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (rBZY8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (nw6Hr)
Open borders we need those people and their work
Opioids from China its a lifestyle choice
MS 13 gangs we cannot just go round them up
Christians We send SWAT to shut down their churches
Posted by: Dem Gov at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (JFO2v)
He swore to hold up the Constitution. Or something.
Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (VP1E6)
Remember a few months ago when Biden kept muttering about "that thing" meaning We The People?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (pS94+)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (+oVP5)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (TB7HE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (o9cfh)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel the First at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (flINI)
Don't give him any ideas.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pS94+)
I know, I know. But he's been pretty quiet about the stuff he's not banning. The HQC diktat is limited to prescribing it to "friends and family" and prescribing by vets and dentists, for example
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (ptqGC)
The American people are pretty law-abiding and pretty cooperative with duly constituted authority, but that can wear thin. And it wears fastest when authority can't come up with a good reason for why other than "We have to do something to save our phony-baloney jobs!"
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sing the Isolation Blues with Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (lwCmt)
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Well see the very 1st A says we have the right to freely exercise our religion. Most sane reasonable people would conclude that means we have the right to go to a church. Now Obama seemed to think that is all it meant. Now we know the left doesn't want to allow that. So per the left, you don't have the right to practice your faith outside of church, nor do you have the right to go to church. So some of us believe this is a restriction on our God-given right that our enshrined in the BOR. Now I know it says Congress , but the 14th A said all people have the privileges and immunities of being Americans ... this means the 14th A incorporates the 1st Amendment.
All being said, it is not the BOR that gives us this protection.
It is a God given right.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)
When a governor breaks his oath and stops acting like a lawful elected official, I believe we can ignore his orders.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (rBZY8)
States are not allowed to go against the Bill of Rights after the 14th amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (LvTSG)
Now see THAT'S why I lurk here. Good scholarship, and fine movie discussions as a bonus.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Ho6FD)
Obesity #1 risk factor after age.
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
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1. This is from the LA Times so I am 98% sure it is a bullshit lie.
2. Article is ginning up fake support for Newsome to outlaw fat people.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pw+jk)
I believe it, but Newsome would have to get rid of the illegals. Have you seen all the short, fat people waddling the streets of downtown LA? It's like Weeble-ville.
Posted by: LASue at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Gov. Murphy at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (o9cfh)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Hcsoi)
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
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1. This is from the LA Times so I am 98% sure it is a bullshit lie.
2. Article is ginning up fake support for Newsome to outlaw fat people.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pw+jk)
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So...... All these obese people are living to 80???
Maybe being overweight isnt as bad for you as they say it is then.... huh....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: spindrift at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (XQpcb)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel the First at April 16, 2020 01:38 PM (flINI)
Murphy's Law > Governor Murphy
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (j3npP)
Posted by: Priapism at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (2cfUo)
He seems to be retarded.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (Uu+Jp)
I love liberals sanctimoniously citing science, when they don't know shit about science. Kinda like the liberal who earnestly assured me that carbon forms in the earth's crust. A sociology major, I'm thinking.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (YqDXo)
Do churches flying rainbow flags get leniency?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
Morbidly obese; BMI over 40. They usually have other co-morbidities at that weight.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (Z4rgH)
It is a God given right.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++
It protects the right. The rights enumerated in the Constitution are G-d-given. The constitution defends them by forbidding the government from imperiling them.
They are not "Constitutional rights" they are "Constitutional guarantees."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Dem Gov at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (JFO2v)
Branch COVIDians?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Chain the doors from the inside.
ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (wXHOL)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (gLvCH)
And why couldn't they use some of this power to stop folks from shitting on the street and in the grocery stores?
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (nw6Hr)
States are not allowed to go against the Bill of Rights after the 14th amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (LvTSG)
Now see THAT'S why I lurk here. Good scholarship, and fine movie discussions as a bonus.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Ho6FD)
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It's also shittily written and should be repealed along with the 16th and 17th amendments.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (LvTSG)
because dems are just mafiosi
Posted by: BlackOrchidMasked
The taxpayers in the state of California should riot en masse in Sacramento or where ever Newsome hangs out. Paying a stimulus to illegal aliens? Well, bless their fascist hearts.
Posted by: Cheri at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (+y/Ru)
Simple answer, though my opinion: We let them.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (TB7HE)
You'll still get the reaming.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
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A holy spirit was making my fingers mistype.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:41 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 01:41 PM (FX03m)
Except for the pesky problem of those natural conservatives, his eager-to-enforce police forces.
Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2020 01:41 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:41 PM (zVFxZ)
Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at April 16, 2020 01:41 PM (uZuKb)
It is a God given right.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)
And the 2 A
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (P4Pk9)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Hcsoi)
A " reason" is concocted, and measures are taken. It will have something to do with public safety, and the greater good, as defined by the Authoritarian whp issues the Fiats.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (90T4r)
It is a God given right.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)
Life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Endowed by our Creator.
Posted by: LASue at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (+y/Ru)
Don't they have the Meadowlands for that?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (GhGb5)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (r+sAi)
Sloppy handling sounds like what you tip an extra $20 for.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (gd9RK)
Removing the 16A doesn't do anything with income taxes except make it required to have any income from property (rental income, etc) be apportioned. In other words, either drastically complicate the tax code OR remove tax from property-derived income entirely and increase the tax burden on everything else.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (TB7HE)
Posted by: superspreader at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (OJ0zz)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (rBZY8)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (o2MD2)
You should read the unredacted footnotes from the Horowitz report that broke last night. Were it not for the CCP Virus it would be a big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)
Stop hating
Posted by: Yo! at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (uZuKb)
States are not allowed to go against the Bill of Rights after the 14th amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (LvTSG)
Now see THAT'S why I lurk here. Good scholarship, and fine movie discussions as a bonus.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Ho6FD)
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It's also shittily written and should be repealed along with the 16th and 17th amendments.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (LvTSG)
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It wasn't originally intended to apply the bill of rights to the states iirc, but that's what it does now.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
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1. This is from the LA Times so I am 98% sure it is a bullshit lie.
2. Article is ginning up fake support for Newsome to outlaw fat people.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pw+jk)
Plausible. Obesity is connected with type 2 diabetes, which is easy to believe is a risk factor.
And as for outlawing fat people, to anticipate the response, one need only consider what parts of a city (or what demographic) is renowned for obesity?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: superspreader at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (OJ0zz)
And the virus too.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 01:43 PM (pS94+)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 16, 2020 01:43 PM (A5zUN)
It wasn't originally intended to apply the bill of rights to the states iirc, but that's what it does now.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (yL25O)
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Because it's so shittily written and SCOTUS went out of control for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:43 PM (LvTSG)
Apr 2020: Bill of Rights? LOL!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at April 16, 2020 01:43 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Yo! at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (uZuKb)
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:30 PM (iCy6P)
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1. This is from the LA Times so I am 98% sure it is a bullshit lie.
2. Article is ginning up fake support for Newsome to outlaw fat people.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pw+jk)
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So...... All these obese people are living to 80???
Maybe being overweight isnt as bad for you as they say it is then.... huh....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (nw6Hr)
===NO. Just saying I do not think being fat is a higher risk factor than lung problems, heart problems or diabetes in CCP flu.
I should have typed slower.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (pw+jk)
It is a God given right.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)
Life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Endowed by our Creator.
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I should have said it is not the BOR that gives us this right, but it does offer protection.
But yes, as our Declaration clearly outlines, we have the God-given rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
It is the pursuit of happiness that is clearly under assault in these times - though it has been under assault for a long time.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (o9cfh)
https://tinyurl.com/ycwo86te
https://tinyurl.com/yb7r9t46
Just a taste. Not just LA papers.
The younger folks that are dying are almost all obese.
Saw a pic of a cop... fat.
A firefighter, fat REMF.
My point was younger healthy folks are not dying from this Black Plague.
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (iCy6P)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (o2MD2)
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Constitutional rights are God-given rights and sense there is no God, there are no rights.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Dr. T at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (xE5n0)
Apr 2020: Bill of Rights? LOL!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at April 16, 2020 01:43 PM (dNzKv)
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*shit*fart*emoluments*heavy sigh*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (rBZY8)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (o2MD2)
This.
Leftists use "science" much like people in movies used to hold up a cross to vampires. They figure if they invoke "science" they'll shut down debate, and/or make their interlocutor(s) look stupid by denying science.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (YqDXo)
===NO. Just saying I do not think being fat is a higher risk factor than lung problems, heart problems or diabetes in CCP flu.
I should have typed slower.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (pw+jk)
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No.... my sarcasm was directed at the article.... not you.
The amount of SHIT out there that is just fabricated out of whole cloth is stunning.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: SH
It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.
Except in North Carolina, where you'll be arrested.
Because it isn't an essential activity.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (wXHOL)
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That is up to you and your daughter.
Don't let the government control you.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Priapism at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (2cfUo)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:44 PM (dUJdY)
Where do you live??
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (0Vz16)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (zVFxZ)
Posted by: Dr. T at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (xE5n0)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (r+sAi)
And that there are two sexes, determined immutably for each individual at conception.
Guess that doesn't qualify as science, though.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (LvTSG)
With you on that. Income tax is an obvious point of contention, but the 17th doesn't get talked about enough. Totally hamstrings the state legislatures, and disenfranchises the populace from their state politics. We likely never would have seen Obamacare if this Amendment weren't in place.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (Ho6FD)
What's interesting is how there's No Middle Ground with these phony Science-based Totalitarians:
It's either hurry down to Chinatown and touch everything and everyone in sight, or lock yourselves in your home.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (rBZY8)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (rBZY
It is curious. Lived here since 1988 at the end of a very quiet dead end road in a very quiet town. In all those years I've seen the state police down here a combined total of 3 times, once was when they were looking for a lost child. Since the house arrest started I've seen the state police cruise this road 3 times, and I probably haven't seen every time they've been down here. I'm pretty sure they are putting on a show of force.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (GhGb5)
Posted by: SH
It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.
Except in North Carolina, where you'll be arrested.
Because it isn't an essential activity.
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A lot of my 9th A rights are being taken away too.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sing the Isolation Blues with Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (lwCmt)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (zVFxZ)
Nah. Smokers get a skip from a respiratory ailment?
No sale.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (lwiT4)
We would do a lot better if we stopped believing some of this nonsense that doctors tell us. Every time we change insurance, we have to do this fitness assessment. They always tell you to do a low salt, low fat, high carb diet. We know that's wrong and have known it for over ten years now. Yet that is still their advice. There are some areas that the medical profession does good work in and other areas where they are terrible. And this blind spot about obesity is one of the areas they are bad at. Look at the real underlying risks and stop looking at what they weigh on the scale.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (JKNZq)
and your brother pierced his nips
that's a Fredo
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They should start wearing wife beater tee shirts.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (zVFxZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:42 PM (rBZY
*Dances*
(with apologies to Wyatt)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (l4C/z)
@GovMurphy
To all the jackasses out there who we now have to carry -- get with the program. We know who you are and we will not relent until we have 100% compliance.
https://bit.ly/2VD67gJ
Gov. Murphy's intsincts are totalitarian.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (gd9RK)
somebody should Twat this back to him:
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=XkZZWcecGik
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (miJU3)
The amount of SHIT out there that is just fabricated out of whole cloth is stunning.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:45 PM (nw6Hr)
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Sorry. In a foul mood today. Have to grab a beer STAT.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (LvTSG)
With you on that. Income tax is an obvious point of contention, but the 17th doesn't get talked about enough. Totally hamstrings the state legislatures, and disenfranchises the populace from their state politics. We likely never would have seen Obamacare if this Amendment weren't in place.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (Ho6FD)
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We might have gotten the ACA if the 17th were repealed right before hand because it included a whole lot of money for states.
The 17th's legacy is horrendous, effectively cutting off the vertical checks and balances of the federal system by depriving the states of their direct say in the federal government.
Do you know what the average tenure of senators were before the Civil War?
4 years. On average, senators only served for 4 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (LvTSG)
In February and March, the Democrats' "Science" ordered us to go to Chinatown.
In April, the Democrats' "Science" is ordering us not to touch Anything or leave our homes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (rBZY8)
Don't forget the quality medical advice.
Posted by: Bosk at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (9m9TT)
Just what does he think his job is? If the decision is above his pay grade he shouldn't be the one making it.
Every day our political "leaders" are confirming the wisdom of some of the founding fathers when they decided to add a Bill of Rights to the Constitution even though such rights were so obvious they didn't need extra emphasis. Including the second amendment.
Posted by: timactual at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (pPXFf)
Except for the pesky problem of those natural conservatives, his eager-to-enforce police forces.
Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2020 01:41 PM (CDGwz)
You always can ignore his orders, and that always carries the risk of being arrested, etc. This doesn't relate to oaths but to his real powers. If the fed or whatever government follows his decides you were in the right, you might get out of the klink scot-free.
I'm not super-interested in those odds myself, but I don't really participate in this ridiculous political system either.
Notable that the original Bill of Rights didn't apply to the states so originalists might be in trouble in that circumstance, if their state decided it can suspend religious gatherings for any reason at all.
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (IB++I)
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Zilch so long as people voluntarily obey.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (sX1BW)
And that there are two sexes, determined immutably for each individual at conception.
Guess that doesn't qualify as science, though.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (YqDXo)
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If youll notice.... the same people that say you can choose your gender are mostly the folks that are saying you can choose to be infectious or not.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (o2MD2)
That's why. Cowards persecute the helpless.
It matters not. As Tertullian noted when the government used to shove Christians in a ring to be tortured and killed, the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.
You can kill us, but it only multiplies us. Your plan will not work. You only make brave role models out of faithful men before the world.
Ticket me. Fine me. Throw me in jail. Lock the doors of my church. Drag me through the streets behind a pick up truck as my body parts rip off on the asphalt. You only make me more certain of my convictions.
I will not stop worshipping.
The enemy of our souls and his earthly minions in government can suck it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (G2uBO)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (VpIIl)
Don't forget the quality medical advice.
Posted by: Bosk at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (9m9TT)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (svbBD)
And yes, I am roughly 60% certain this was going to occur under the Hag. Probably during the election year (now) to keep any upstart Republican Challenger indoors, and give reason to enforce sweeping internet speech controls ("if stopping Russian Disinformation saves just one life...") and a brand new commie normal for '20-'24.
I think it's been planned quite a long while. If China had been winning against Trump, they may have held it back until the next D president was in place. Sorry, that's where I am right now.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (FX03m)
I'm not anti-police. I am anti-cocksucker and anti-totalitarian.
It just so happens most cops are cocksuckers.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (rBZY8)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (84Pcq)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (zVFxZ)
Nah. Smokers get a skip from a respiratory ailment?
No sale.
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The numbers say that. Maybe nicotine and tar provides a protective coating against the Chinese Cooties?
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (zVFxZ)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Downcast at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (hRKPi)
@GovMurphy
To all the jackasses out there who we now have to carry -- get with
the program. We know who you are and we will not relent until we have
100% compliance.
Which state is this?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (lwiT4)
No I don't believe the majority of people are going to go along with that at all, especially when it starts getting really nice outside.
Also starvation from no money.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some government types getting hurt because of this.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (j3npP)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:49 PM (dUJdY)
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Black Democratium
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: Weasel at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (kTF2Z)
Facially neutral laws of general applicability can impede or infringe upon religious free exercise if meeting a rational basis and provided the law does not interfere with another fundamental right under the hybrid rights test of Smith v. Employment Div of Oregon.
If there is a hybrid rights situation, then the law must meet the "compelling interest" test, a sort of heightened scrutiny that requires the law to be narrowly tailored to avoid infringing on free exercise wherever possible.
In a pandemic, they could close all public places where more than 10 people gather. They can leave them open but limit the number of people or require distancing. But they can't say grocery stores are open but churches are not.
And yes, I have worked with the ADF guys in the past.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (uKiy5)
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This originalist sees no trouble at all.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (sX1BW)
Notsothoreau
Good point... every Navy SEAL is considered obese, just cause of BMI.
Again, I'm not advocating anything. I pointed out an increasing number of articles pointing out obesity seems to practitioners to be a factor in having disproportionately bad outxcomes.
Posted by: MarkY at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (iCy6P)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (zVFxZ)
I've long suspected alcohol provides a force field against death.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (j3npP)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (dUJdY)
You mean " Missouri", of all places, is knuckling under?? I thought your governor was not a Prog??
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (90T4r)
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Hey, think of the fun! This can be applied to any of their leftist wet dreams! No BoR for you because global warming "science!" No BoR for you because tranny "science!" No BoR for you because gun death "science!"
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (O+I8R)
And that there are two sexes, determined immutably for each individual at conception.
Guess that doesn't qualify as science, though.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:46 PM (YqDXo)
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If youll notice.... the same people that say you can choose your gender are mostly the folks that are saying you can choose to be infectious or not.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (nw6Hr)
Literally in the case of Pennsylvania. The public health commissar calling the shots, Dr. "Rachel" Levine, is a tranny.
Posted by: African Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (sX1BW)
This is the subject of many heated discussions at our dinner table. The Synod says we must be good citizens and obey those in authority. Our Board is made up of Karens. I want to scream.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (lwiT4)
some of this nonsense that doctors tell us. Every time we change
insurance, we have to do this fitness assessment. They always tell you
to do a low salt, low fat, high carb diet. We know that's wrong and have
known it for over ten years now. Yet that is still their advice. There
are some areas that the medical profession does good work in and other
areas where they are terrible. And this blind spot about obesity is one
of the areas they are bad at. Look at the real underlying risks and stop
looking at what they weigh on the scale.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (JKNZq)
This. Our son's girlfriend is fit and slender, and a Type 2 diabetic. My doctor's nurse is trim and fit and Type 2.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: an angry mob at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (Tnijr)
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I would advise shooting the press first. The cops are animals of comfort. If you shoot the press the cops will remain in the donut shoppes. If you shoot cops they will bring out their SWAT guys with MRAPs.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (zVFxZ)
Posted by: Marion Barry at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Gref at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (zVFxZ)
I've long suspected alcohol provides a force field against death.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 16, 2020 01:51 PM (j3npP)
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Truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brY7do1tb2Q
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:49
@*$#^)&?@=>!!!!!!!!!
Motherfucker!!!
I already decided not to vote for Parson in August; I may vote for Galloway in November if he goes through with this. Is he f***ing retarded?!?!
Posted by: Dr. T at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (xE5n0)
Posted by: Priapism at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (2cfUo)
I will modify this and say "Murphy is such a douche, his blood type is Massengill."
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Don't forget the quality medical advice.
Posted by: Bosk at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (9m9TT)
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Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (wXHOL)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (kTF2Z)
For real?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (dUJdY)
Of course not. No one said that.
The two are connected, however, in the sense that if you're obese, you're at greater risk of becoming diabetic.
But by no means does one necessarily imply the other.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (IB++I)
Subtle troll is back.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Gref at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (AMIL/)
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And when red states have less death and better post-pandemic economic numbers, things will get awkward.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (kTF2Z)
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Our civil authority in the United States is the Constitution, not men.
You are not defying the authority of civil law when you obey the Constitution.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (G2uBO)
Posted by: getting the banned a rage stroke avenge me boys at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (q9E5K)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM
That's ... massive.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (zVFxZ)
I've long suspected alcohol provides a force field against death.
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I think Bourbon is ambrosia - food of the gods. Gods are immortal, just sayin.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 01:54 PM (zVFxZ)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:54 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Blake - smi-lurker in marginal standing
at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2020 01:52 PM (ptqGC)
Correlation != causation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (YqDXo)
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They are now operating from the Desperate Situations Call for Desperate Measures end run around the Constitution. And it can be applied to anything. The only thing stopping them will be the populace. If nothing is done to stop them, they won't stop.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (O+I8R)
Do you know what the average tenure of senators were before the Civil War?
4 years. On average, senators only served for 4 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts
I did not believe you.
But, lo:
Senate
Between the Second and 21st Congresses (1791-1831), the average years of Senate service ranged from a low of 1.3 years (Second Congress) to a high of 4.3 years (21st Congress). From the 22nd Congress though the 48th Congress (1831-1885), the years of Senate service averaged over three and under five. With the exception of the 62nd and 63rd Congresses (1911-1915), when the average length of Senate service was about five years, the years of service from the 49th through the 75th Congresses (1885-1939) averaged between six and seven and one-half years, an indication that many Senators were beginning to serve more than one term. Note that the direct election of Senators began with the elections to the 63rd Congress (1913-1915)
https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/ metadc29655/m1/1/high_res_d/RL32648_2010Nov02.pdf
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (uKiy5)
of the areas they are bad at. Look at the real underlying risks and stop
looking at what they weigh on the scale.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 01:47 PM (JKNZq)
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My "ideal" weight is 175. Which is tens pounds less than I wrestled at in high school with single digit body fat. In High shool I had to dump 20+ pounds after football to make weight.
No fucking way I get to 175 now that Im 29...
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Muldoon at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (m45I2)
But he heard of COVID-19, so in NYC that's enough to mark him as a virus death.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (TB7HE)
I grabbed her ass and felt her tit
Posted by: Andrew The Diceman Clat Ladies and Gents! at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (SAK2A)
I hate to write this but I don't want this come across as bullshit positive spin but, politically, this is big loser for these totalitarian governors because in every election MOST people don't vote.
Most people don't vote because they either don't care or believe their vote doesn't matter OR they believe ALL politicians are the SAME.
But stuff likes this usually motivates some non-voters to vote.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (4f9mN)
reminder
2:15 PM EDT
President Trump Delivers Remarks Celebrating America's Truckers
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (8fB/R)
I could be wrong that might just be a myth.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (Uu+Jp)
100 guys with firearms, rope and a lamppost would say "yes".
Posted by: GMan at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (sxq57)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (kTF2Z)
Wut?
What created the Black Plague?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: SMOD at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (3aI0K)
Well shit. Didn't think the day could get worse.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 16, 2020 01:53 PM (G2uBO)
Exactly. I think there is a higher authority at work here. The God-given right to worship as we please. Emphasis on God-given. That doesn't mean we have to be irresponsible about it and put our neighbor at risk. But we can be Christians and have common sense all at the same time.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (90T4r)
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Hmmmm....
I *am* encouraged you think we're going last that long.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (kTF2Z)
Kung Flu?
Posted by: CDC at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (88+cf)
I did not believe you.
But, lo:
Senate
Between the Second and 21st Congresses (1791-1831), the average years of Senate service ranged from a low of 1.3 years (Second Congress) to a high of 4.3 years (21st Congress). From the 22nd Congress though the 48th Congress (1831-1885), the years of Senate service averaged over three and under five. With the exception of the 62nd and 63rd Congresses (1911-1915), when the average length of Senate service was about five years, the years of service from the 49th through the 75th Congresses (1885-1939) averaged between six and seven and one-half years, an indication that many Senators were beginning to serve more than one term. Note that the direct election of Senators began with the elections to the 63rd Congress (1913-1915)
https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/ metadc29655/m1/1/high_res_d/RL32648_2010Nov02.pdf
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (uKiy5)
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I read it in some biography of a president or other. I can never remember which one.
But I was always really struck by that fact.
States kept very short leashes on their senators, and senators didn't seem to like being on the short leashes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Priapism at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (2cfUo)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (84Pcq)
that's the concern, plus if you do need to intubate or something similar and they're that big it is just, sadly, so much more difficult.
I feel awful for these patients and I do not blame them for their condition. I think the healthcare peeps needs to simply be HONEST with us about what high risk groups there are. so far they are being WAY too PC
Posted by: BlackOrchidMasked at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: White Crocs between Labor & Memorial Days advice at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (DMUuz)
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They are now operating from the Desperate Situations Call for Desperate Measures end run around the Constitution. And it can be applied to anything. The only thing stopping them will be the populace. If nothing is done to stop them, they won't stop.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (O+I8R)
I appreciate that everyone is concerned here, but I seem to recall a prominent democrat in government who said, "the constitution is not a suicide pact"
Or wait, what party was he in?
My memory of that part of history is a lil hazy.
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (IB++I)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Blake - smi-lurker in marginal standing
at April 16, 2020 01:55 PM (WEBkv)
I was only following orders
Posted by: many NJ PDs at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (ONvIw)
I could be wrong that might just be a myth.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (Uu+Jp)
Every warm blooded animal, including livestock, pets, and people carried the Plague. Because of the fleas from the rats.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:54 PM (kTF2Z)
That's too bad. I hope they are able to have a funeral for him.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: dananjcon at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (u6xw0)
Science did not exist during the 13th century. Recall that people then were still practicing alchemy to turn base metals into gold.
Science only began with the Enlightenment.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 01:50 PM (kTF2Z)
For real?
Posted by: grammie winger
Looks that way. IMDb is falling down. Usually they update within 15 minutes.
Supposedly happened yesterday.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (wXHOL)
Posted by: fd at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (Tnijr)
Shut up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (TB7HE)
RIP, Gentle Giant.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (I6tpa)
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (4f9mN)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (YqDXo)
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Fuck you too asshole.
~Copernicus
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (lC2iG)
https://tinyurl.com/ydf42grg
For 'ettes, comes in olive drab for the manly man in your life.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (pw+jk)
Congressman John A. Bingham of Ohio, the primary author of the first
section
of the 14th amendment, intended that the amendment also nationalize
the Federal
Bill of Rights by making it binding upon the states. Senator Jacob
Howard of
Michigan, introducing the amendment, specifically stated that the
privileges
and immunities clause would extend to the states "the personal rights
guaranteed and secured by the first eight amendments." Historians
disagree on how widely Bingham's and Howard's views were shared at the
time in the Congress, or across the country in general. No one in
Congress explicitly contradicted their view of the Amendment, but only a
few members said anything at all about its meaning on this issue. For
many years, the Supreme Court ruled that the Amendment did not extend
the Bill of Rights to the states.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: many NJ PDs at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (ONvIw)
Hey, us too!
Posted by: NC Police at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (xE5n0)
Posted by: many NJ PDs at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (ONvIw)
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The cops could easily have found other things to do over picking on a bunch of people at a church service.
However, as has been mentioned above, peaceful citizens are low threat easy targets.
Posted by: Blake - smi-lurker in marginal standing
at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (4f9mN)
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*REMEMBER* it.????
Im hoping it makes a comeback....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (ZCEU2)
Shut up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (TB7HE)
Well, at 3% average, you're unlikely to die. But run the numbers of 3% of 300,000,000 for me.
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (IB++I)
New doc is a skinny dude who might be vegan, and is all in on the BMI, so now I am morbidly obese.
And yet, no diabetes, no heart problems, no problem jogging, hiking, doing pushups, working the heavy bag. I am a healthy stocky guy. Come from a long line of healthy stocky guys.
I miss my old doc. Army sawbones.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Processing Survey Topos Pantsless Since Mid-March at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (x8Wzq)
Covid-19 Is Traveling Along the New Silk Road
A striking overlap exists between the path of today's viral spread and the path of the Black Death in the 1300s.
Wired.com
now this, at Breitbart
Beijing Capitalizes on China Virus
Belt and Road Debts to China Skyrocket as World Locked Down
Countries already deeply indebted to Beijing through its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) face increasing economic hardship caused by the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic, the South China Morning Post reported on Tuesday.
China uses the BRI to establish economically predatory infrastructure projects across the globe, expanding its sphere of influence. Chinese loans fund infrastructure projects in over 100 developing nations across Asia, Africa, Europe, and Latin America through the BRI, an initiative estimated to be worth $8 trillion.
crawl in bed with them...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (TB7HE)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (G2uBO)
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Was it the party who's platform was white people should not own black people?
Or was it the Democrats?
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (sX1BW)
Notable that the original Bill of Rights didn't apply to the states so originalists might be in trouble in that circumstance, if their state decided it can suspend religious gatherings for any reason at all.
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 01:48 PM (IB++I)
Subtle troll is back.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here
Troll or not, that is a correct statement of pre-14th amendment constitutional law. States had established churches prior to the Civil War, and would not have thought twice about imposing any sort of ridiculous law on their citizens (and did so!). States were thought to be mini-national entities, and the vaunted "Bill of Rights" was considered by many anti-Federalists (nowadays extremely limited govt conservatives) to be an unnecessary spelling out and limitation of our God-given rights.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (uKiy5)
But I was always really struck by that fact.
States kept very short leashes on their senators, and senators didn't seem to like being on the short leashes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (LvTSG)
This probably has to do as much with the improvements to long-distance travel during that time as anything. Huge PITA to get to Washington, DC from more than a couple of states away until the rail system connected things.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (Ho6FD)
This governor just gave Republicans the way to ban abortions. "The science says there's a beating heart..."
Posted by: setnaffa at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (c4NCi)
- the
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (r+sAi)
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Jeez.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (lC2iG)
That's one of those rectal buzzers you remote control with your smartphone?
Posted by: Biden gwine put us all back in chains! at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (q9E5K)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (TB7HE)
Of course they would, because they would be Following Orders.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: runner at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (zr5Kq)
There are reasons for people being fat and it's not just because they aren't trying.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (JKNZq)
~Copernicus
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (nw6Hr)
That was at the beginning of the Enlightenment, when Europeans were first beginning to question Aristotelian and religious approaches to knowledge.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: emperor palpatine at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (dKm4U)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Processing Survey Topos Pantsless Since Mid-March at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM
You miss short arm inspections?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (IB++I)
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Ah..... somebody did not get the memo on the original bullshit models.
Thought you guys all listened to Fauci ????
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (nw6Hr)
However, as has been mentioned above, peaceful citizens are low threat easy targets.
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That's not a good incentive structure for the cops to be placing on the general population.
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (kOpft)
Ft. Ord.
There's your sand and I'll raise you a thousand acres of ice plants to slip on.
Posted by: waepnedmann at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (vRr0s)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (8fB/R)
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Was it the party who's platform was white people should not own black people?
Or was it the Democrats?
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (sX1BW)
How should I know? Political parties in democracies look all the same to me. "Republics" too. Was it the Whig party?
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (IB++I)
Suspend Congress??
The president is demanding the Speaker of the House come out of hiding and return to D.C.
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (4f9mN)
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What makes you think I would let you do that?
Posted by: Karen Winemom at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (lwiT4)
That was at the beginning of the Enlightenment, when Europeans were first beginning to question Aristotelian and religious approaches to knowledge.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (YqDXo)
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Ok, CLiff.
Tell Woody and Norm I said HI.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (nw6Hr)
A model.....?
Yeah, that's not a narrowly tailored law.
Try again, Doofus.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (TB7HE)
But I was always really struck by that fact.
States kept very short leashes on their senators, and senators didn't seem to like being on the short leashes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:57 PM (LvTSG)
This probably has to do as much with the improvements to long-distance travel during that time as anything. Huge PITA to get to Washington, DC from more than a couple of states away until the rail system connected things.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (Ho6FD)
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I've read so many stories of Senators receiving instructions to vote a certain way and disagreeing. It would play out one of a few ways. Either the senator would comply and keep quiet, or the senator would resign, or the senator would do what they wanted and the state legislature would recall them and replace them.
Since absolutely none of the latter two happens now, I attribute that largely to the 17th Amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (LvTSG)
Thought you guys all listened to Fauci ????
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (nw6Hr)
Everyone goes along their business as usual and 3% die, that's what?
It's just a flu, comrade. Does the body feel bad if a cell dies?
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (IB++I)
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 01:58 PM (kOpft)
You don't know how to play the game if you cannot find at least one PhD or MD who's written a book or two, to give you a bunch of science or medical BS with catastrophic forecasts, in support of what you want to do.
Posted by: Gref at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (bDqIh)
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Dems have two powerful weapons - Newark and Camden.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (zVFxZ)
Posted by: Theodoric of York at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at April 16, 2020 01:59 PM (4f9mN)
great album!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:40 PM (LvTSG)
Compared to those, having Gaylord for only eight years doesn't seem completely retarded
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Timon at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (dKm4U)
RIP lontime friend of the HQ - Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: MHK at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (lwiT4)
Because the Governor is a spineless pussy??
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (90T4r)
States are not allowed to go against the Bill of Rights after the 14th amendment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 01:36 PM (LvTSG)
Now see THAT'S why I lurk here. Good scholarship, and fine movie discussions as a bonus.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Ho6FD)
Nice!
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (UZ8BZ)
Loins girded.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: Karen at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (kTF2Z)
I absolutely hated Brian Dennehy, he was such a good evil asshole, especially in First Blood.
He had a way about him.
RIP big man.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (lg/F7)
Are you from Kansas?
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM
The last part of your sentence answers the first part.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (l6b3d)
You're losing it troll.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (TB7HE)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (zVFxZ)
That phrase was wrongly attributed to Lincoln, and even if it was the situation is slightly different. Lincoln suspended the writ of habeus corpus for the greater good of the country. The virus is being used as a pretext for mischief, and any person thinking clearly and examining the facts can see that.
But you keep dipping in with your divisive stupidity.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Karen Winemom at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (vg8iE)
The ubiquitous presence of flights of stairs, maybe?
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (kOpft)
I absolutely hated Brian Dennehy, he was such a good evil asshole, especially in First Blood.
He had a way about him.
RIP big man.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (lg/F7)
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He was great as Arrakis in Dune.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:00 PM (IB++I)
First, that's 3% of those known to have the virus, and we know at least as many get it and are never symptomatic enough to show up. So halve that number, and that's your absolute ceiling.
Also, that's assuming everyone is going to get the virus, which they're not. So cut that number way down again.
And then factor in that the mortality rate can be mitigated even further with Vitamin C and D to boost the immune system, and then if you still get it, take HCQ and other drugs which will usually knock it out.
All of which is to say, shut up.
Posted by: Dr. T at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (xE5n0)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (TB7HE)
Posted by: Regular joe at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (6/uwW)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Gref at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (AMIL/)
The most egregious offenders are Ph.D.s in the social "sciences." They, through their bullshit "studies," provide the grist for all sorts of leftist initiatives and arguments.
See, e.g., the arguments against Prop. 8 in California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (YqDXo)
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Bummer. He had some great roles. Always seemed perfect for the role he inhabited.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (sX1BW)
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!!!!!?????
Who's going to play every badass everywhere forever more?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)
They keep her cryo-unit in the basement.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:07 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2020 02:07 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (kOpft)
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Been that way for a while, I believe.
It's just that the rest of the US population is finally getting the memo.
Posted by: Blake - smi-lurker in marginal standing
at April 16, 2020 02:07 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 02:07 PM (84Pcq)
Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2020 02:07 PM (YS7ZU)
Posted by: klaftern at April 16, 2020 02:07 PM (RuIsu)
Liked to cut n fold those to reveal her knees as tits.
Like pep boys matchbook dicks.
Posted by: prepping for futile but violent anti gov funsies at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (q9E5K)
Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (lC2iG)
Posted by: Here's the setup... at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (YS7ZU)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:03 PM (lwiT4)
Because the Governor is a spineless pussy??
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:05 PM (90T4r)
Ding ding ding!!!
Posted by: Dr. T at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (xE5n0)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (lwiT4)
"Get our free corona virus newsletter
Sign up for experts' answers, the latest news, and what it means for you."
I see at least three lies in that little blurb.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (4f9mN)
contraband Chinese pork amid fears of African swine fever contamination,
Reuters reports.
Is China sending the good U.S. pork back to China and switching it out with their crappy diseased pork to sell in the U.S.? Maybe through Smithfield Foods? Someone look into this and get back to me.
Posted by: Jolo at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (QZdNa)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (G546f)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Here's the setup... at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (SAK2A)
37 degree slope.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Liked to cut n fold those to reveal her knees as tits.
Like pep boys matchbook dicks.
Posted by: prepping for futile but violent anti gov funsies at April 16, 2020 02:08 PM (q9E5K)
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So, they're erasing a Native American woman from grocery stores across America?
Are they right wing trolls?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Ho6FD)
Just don't bring up Prometheus...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (EGyGV)
They will do whatever it takes to keep their place as a unit.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (svbBD)
lol.. yep. Mayor seems to be running the show here and Parsons just goes along. A fucking mayor running the state. smh
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (uKiy5)
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So.... a disease that can kill 2.2 million people can be pared down to less than 75,000 if we just stay at home, unless we HAVE to go out, EAT what we have, unless we need more, wear masks and gloves that dont do anything unless theyre mandatory.???
Are you at all familiar with p values and standards of deviation??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (mrrpT)
I don't know when NJ will stop electing rich Goldman Sachs alumni.
Murphy was essentially a back-slapping sales guy who became significantly rich and then carpet-bombed the state with ads for over a year before the Dem primary.
He's not very bright. A lot of the bigger decisions and deals seem to be made by Senate President Sweeney and I don't really know what Murphy does all day besides really cling to lefty goals like $15 an hour. (My teenage daughter's friends with jobs ALL work under the table - nice lesson to learn.)
So of course he will probably be re-elected if he doesn't stand down due to his kidney cancer.
The sad thing is NJ has a lot of blue believers. My neighbors on both sides are huuuuge leftists. We left our church after the umpteenth sermon espousing gun control. (True story - our pastor was on the side of the Baltimore rioters). To me, keeping people out of there is not a disservice.
I am so done and with Murphy's move to vote by mail (once you go absentee you are vote by mail for life unless you go through a process with your county clerk, which I did because it pissed me off so much) Dems will rule until the state is a bloated carcass in front of Pennsylvania.
/rant
Posted by: Cranford Pundit at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (bIwM8)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (V3IFq)
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (uKiy5)
Are you at all familiar with p values and standards of deviation??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (nw6Hr)
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I had drinks with him once. Good guy until about the fourth drink. I really didn't need to hear his opinion of Albanians.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (LvTSG)
Unwoke Corporation Refuses to Depict Minorities in their Advertising - Seeks to "Other-ise" and "Unperson" Noble Race!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (VpIIl)
And they also believed they could leave the union anytime they wished...
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (P4Pk9)
None of them died.
The rate of infections from exposure will be about 30% like all flus.
The death rate (the real one, not the bullshit number the CDC relies on) will be about the same as the "regular" flu. .01 percent of exposed, about 0.25 percent of those infected, or about 10 percent of those hospitalized.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (I6tpa)
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (mrrpT)
Yes. Walk out of my friggin door and walk into a friggin restaurant.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (84Pcq)
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My idea is to end the shutdown and open the economy back up.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (sX1BW)
Hopefully the POTUS, in about an hour.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (SAK2A)
I have many but they would never pass Congress as currently comprised.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (r+sAi)
lol.. yep. Mayor seems to be running the show here and Parsons just goes along. A fucking mayor running the state. smh
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:09 PM (dUJdY)
So sorry for you. Thought Missouri was different than Illinois. Chicago oppresses all of us here. I guess Kansas City oppresses Missouri. Lots of masks coming of now, Jewells.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (90T4r)
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I'm thinking a big dance party would be fun.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (zVFxZ)
Probably in an attempt to avoid blame.
Posted by: This is Xi NN ... at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (MWv5n)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (NgKpN)
Sure boss. Please confirm my $600/hour billing rate.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: Regular joe at April 16, 2020 02:06 PM
I like the concept. Work up a treatment, and get back to me.
Posted by: Harvey W. at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (DMUuz)
I know people hate the idea of mandatory masks. But there's a psychological element to this. If people feel they are protected, they'll start to get on with their lives. They may have to do some sort of risk mitigation for businesses (maybe insurance).
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:02 PM (YqDXo)
The "Enlightenment," so named, refers to the 18th century. Copernicus lived during the Renaissance.
Posted by: Caliban at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (IB++I)
How many asymptomatic people were tested? Because that number is sort of important.
And...nobody is suggesting that we do nothing, so cut the childish and transparent arguments.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (dLLD6)
I don't see it happening now. I thought if this was lifted April 24 like it should be we might be able to come out of it. Not now. There's another month of this. We won't recover.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (sX1BW)
Is your job still waiting for you?
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (mrrpT)
National Mardi Gras Orgy Festival of Spending Money!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (+0AKE)
A few farms in my area have the logo on signs on their farn so always assume its a co-op operation.
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (zVFxZ)
I have Rare Earth's "I Just Want to Celebrate" queue'd up for the moment ours is lifted.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (FX03m)
And then you have the spineless Republican Governors who just roll over.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (90T4r)
PA, fools
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (8fB/R)
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As I've said, the lockdown was an easy but always a temporary power ... the real power is overseeing the reopening which can last much longer.
Lot of avenues for control there.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (kTF2Z)
Maybe, just maybe, I can settle the issue.
Karen = Phil
Posted by: browndog at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (gD6Ka)
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (mrrpT)
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GO back to work.
Stop living in fear.
But the economy isnt just coming back. Its going to have to be rebuilt.
Im guessing about 1/3 of the small businesses that are shuttered are not coming back. Ever.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:10 PM (nw6Hr)
p values? Something to do with golden showers?
Standard of deviation? Run of the mill gay behavior?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (FX03m)
They are walking a fine line, then. Wait too long and there won't be one.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (zVFxZ)
Cowboy poetry.
Posted by: Harry Reid at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. Here's Your Sign at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (Vy7tf)
Reuters reports.
That was from March or April 2019.
In more recent months, starting ~ November 2019 it was reported that China-owned Smithfield was sending a lot of US raised pork products to China, since their pigs were/still are? infected with the swine flu.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (4f9mN)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (r+sAi)
Everyone goes along their business as usual and 3% die, that's what?
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (IB++I)
How many asymptomatic people were tested? Because that number is sort of important.
And...nobody is suggesting that we do nothing, so cut the childish and transparent arguments.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Exactly. 3% of those sick enough to get tested and show as positive die. Not everyone is tested, and extrapolating from incomplete datasets is not a sound basis for public policy.
The better course is to compare no isolation versus isolation. Same curve.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (uKiy5)
it's been said that WW2 led to a booming economy
let's declare war on China
since they keep attacking us anyway
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (G546f)
Posted by: Caliban at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (QE8X6)
You're right. Sorry. I meant Renaissance.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (YqDXo)
I don't see it happening now. I thought if this was lifted April 24 like it should be we might be able to come out of it. Not now. There's another month of this. We won't recover.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:13 PM (dUJdY)
A LOT of tourism money down the drain. Sorry Jewells.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (90T4r)
First, where the hell are you even finding masks. Until last week the local walgreens (walgreens!) couldn't even supply their own pharmacies with masks, for their employees.
Second. Try wearing a mask 100% of the time in 90+ degree weather and 90% humidity.
See how well that works.
Posted by: GMan at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (sxq57)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2020 02:01 PM (lC2iG)
Im sure yahoo ignores the fact that congress is closed anyway.
Posted by: LASue at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (kJMLd)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (r+sAi)
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"I don't know what happened, I must have missed a decimal point or something..."
-Michael Bolton
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (svbBD)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (4f9mN)
I'm not on board with that but I'm not not on board with it either.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (zVFxZ)
I have Rare Earth's "I Just Want to Celebrate" queue'd up for the moment ours is lifted.
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Got any KC and the Sunshine Band stuff? Let's all go Disco Gay!
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (zVFxZ)
I know people hate the idea of mandatory masks. But there's a psychological element to this. If people feel they are protected, they'll start to get on with their lives. They may have to do some sort of risk mitigation for businesses (maybe insurance).
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (JKNZq)
Potential problem I see with masks is it might give false sense of protection to the people the high risk factors who really should continue to self isolate. But, I still agree that the benefit as a "crutch" to get back to normal is worth it.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (zqs/f)
I don't breathe well in masks, which is why I didn't wear one yesterday. I suspect we will see numbers drop on the virus when we get to hotter weather.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (JKNZq)
Hey... I made a mask out of a dinner napkin! It kept slipping down, I couldn't breath very well, and I touched my face way more by trying to pull the POS up
Posted by: Martians from Mars Attacks! at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (5bxa0)
You're all aware of the injun boobies to which I refer, yes?
The foldy thing with the picture? A rite of boyhood!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at April 16, 2020 02:04 PM (IB++I)
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[_] CONCERN NOT NOTED
[_] CONCERN NOTED
[X] GIVE UP ON THE CONCERN
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Glinda the good scientist at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (ZCEU2)
Not playing Tainted Love by Soft Cell.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (84Pcq)
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:11 PM (sX1BW)
Is your job still waiting for you?
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I hope.
But the only way to get the economy going again is to end the lockdowns.
The best way to have the economy really get going is to get government out of the way.
Sadly, the reopening is going to give government far too much control.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (sX1BW)
So, who has a good idea about how to come out of this shutdown and bring the economy back?
________
Invalidate the entire Federal code, eliminate every Federal agency not prescribed in the Constitution and all their regulations, and start over.
Never going to happen, but a man can dream.
Posted by: ShainS -- Which Communist Chinese country funds American media and politicians? at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (iBMrD)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:12 PM (FX03m)
They are walking a fine line, then. Wait too long and there won't be one.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (lwiT4)
Nope. Look at how long the Great Depression kept Democrats in power.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (NgKpN)
No zoo
No baseball
No movies
No dining out
No having a beer at the local bar
I think I'm gonna go ahead and start drinking now.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (zVFxZ)
Do a little Dance, Make a little Love, Get Down Heterosexually Tonight!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (SAK2A)
Here's your mail. There's some from NYC. There's some from Mumbai India. Oh, there's some from New Jersey. Ah, been waiting on that from Washington DC. Hey, here's a piece from Philadelphia.
Every envelope licked for your benefit.
ENOUGH!!!!
Posted by: Orson at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (z9zq2)
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Well, I know that the president needs to establish today a solid plan, with timetables set, and let the American people know today we're moving out of the woods, unmooring from that anchor that has us at the bottom of the Atlantic. Every day that goes by is another day we're getting closer to a complete economic holocaust. This must stop now. Now.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (O+I8R)
The foldy thing with the picture? A rite of boyhood!
Posted by: Guy Smiley
A rite, indeed.
The Left ruins everything.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (4f9mN)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:14 PM (lwiT4)
I agree with you, but I think there will be one. I mean obviously they're also trying to undermine Trump and stop a recovery.
But a fairly likely outcome of all this is corona dies down and things rev back up (not all the way) and continue revving. They don't want Trump to own that because that is his second term on a platter.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: fd at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (2DOZq)
extrapolating from incomplete datasets is not a sound basis for public policy.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin'
swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic
ceremony!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (r+sAi)
I'm not on board with that but I'm not not on board with it either.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (SAK2A)
That would be the chips Bill Gates wants everyone to have.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (ijEPD)
Posted by: dananjcon at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (u6xw0)
The better course is to compare no isolation versus isolation. Same curve.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM (uKiy5)
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I'm not a statistician, can't solve a quadratic equation and wouldn't recognize a differential equation if it slapped me up side the head, yet even I could tell the numbers being used to justify public policy were nonsense.
Posted by: Blake - smi-lurker in marginal standing
at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (WEBkv)
Do you have a link?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (H8QX8)
I wonder what models his "science" was using?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (axyOa)
extrapolating from incomplete datasets is not a sound basis for public policy.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin'
swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic
ceremony!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (r+sAi)
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What if a watery tart flings me a scimitar?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
My cousin on dialysis gets masks as part of his supplies (he does it at home) but he's having to use the same mask all day. So they can get masks to some of the at risk.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (JKNZq)
No zoo
No baseball
No movies
No dining out
No having a beer at the local bar
I think I'm gonna go ahead and start drinking now.
Posted by: Jewells45
I wish I could join you jewells.
I'm bored af. and still our governor keeps telling us how we are all AT RISK and we will DESTROY all the progress we've made if we don't follow his orders.
the numbers of sick people do not support these draconian measures. this is about control. fucking sadists.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (d7Ww2)
A: Birth Tourism Hotels in California for the wives
of Chinese Communist Party-Members.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (Ndje9)
"Imagine surviving COIVD-19 then China releases COVID-19S Plus Pro, RED Edition"
I did chuckle.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (V+U0x)
I could well be mistaken but I think it was "science" that led authorities to kill dogs and cats during the bubonic plague because they thought they carried the disease.
Science did not exist during the 13th century. Recall that people then were still practicing alchemy to turn base metals into gold.
Science only began with the Enlightenment.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
"science"/magic/alchemy/sorcery were all functionally the same until the systemization of the scientific method during the Scottish Enlightenment of the 18th and 19th centuries. Even as late as the cholera epidemics in London, you still had a large contingency of "doctors" believing in the miasma theory of disease.
Change my mind.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (uKiy5)
Posted by: Blake
Duh. When the CDC says to call every death as a covid death, regardless,,,,
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:21 PM (wXHOL)
Screw the psychology. There is no reason to give in to somebody's feelz on this.
And besides - have you not seen how this works yet ? Give in on the masks - and the National Karens will simply go to their next demand. They don't stop.
You can't "pick your battles" with these fucks. You're only picking your losses.
Posted by: Won't Wear the Mask at April 16, 2020 02:21 PM (Dj5/i)
We could adopt the Reds' playbook, and use the crisis to push for voter ID, bans on abortion, closing the border, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:21 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 16, 2020 02:21 PM (Ibwur)
buy the kind that have glue on them. Most of the envelope you get are not licked, especially if they are coming from a business.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (JKNZq)
extrapolating from incomplete datasets is not a sound basis for public policy.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin'
swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic
ceremony!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (r+sAi)
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What if a watery tart flings me a scimitar?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
It makes you a Sheik?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (NgKpN)
Couple of things, here:
1.) Geez NJ, your governor is like some a character out of Idiocracy. Sad!
2.) Somebody smart, I can't remember who, made a rebuttal to the vapid saying about the flag and the cross when he said (not exact quote, I'm sure): "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a white lab coat and carrying a stethoscope."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (hDNne)
But a fairly likely outcome of all this is corona dies down and things rev back up (not all the way) and continue revving. They don't want Trump to own that because that is his second term on a platter.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (FX03m)
I think they're committed to stopping any recovery. I think they want complete economic meltdown and the annihilation of small businesses.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (Ez6QX)
Agree a million percent. The masks are about keeping us compliant.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (2DOZq)
You're all aware of the injun boobies to which I refer, yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:16 PM (4f9mN)
First I've heard of it. Apparently I've lead a very sheltered life for 29 times two plus something or other years.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (GhGb5)
165
My theory is that they knew this was bad, and decided to let it spread to the world to destroy our collective economies and gain superiority. This was kind of an opportunistic act of war. I don't think they let it out on purpose, but made the most of the situation.
Posted by: shibumi says CV19 is a bioweapon at April 16, 2020 12:40 PM
With tinfoil hat still firmly sitting atop my head, I am sticking with my original theory that this was/is a Deep State-China joint black operation.
--- Deep State wants Trump gone
--- China wants Trump gone (bad trade agreements, etc.)
--- China wants their Hong Kong problem gone
This virus gives everyone cover. It's really no worse than influenza virus, but the reporting on it is completely different.
Consider how the reporting would be of a virus that kills 60,000 people in the USA within a year --- influenza --- where there were 20 million infections and 800,000 hospitalizations.
60,000 deaths = 164 per day / 5,000 per month
20 million infections = ~55,000 per day / 1.6 milllion per month
800,000 hospitalizations = 2,200 per day / 66k per month
Imagine if the media were reporting that data of infections and hospitalizations and deaths due to seasonal flu as breathlessly and hysterically as they are doing with COVID-19. Would it be any different than what they are doing now?
Nope.
But what about the drastic measures being taken by China with their people? Well, they have a protest to put down, right? So they use the excuse of the virus and take all the extreme actions they want. Just like our totalitarian Governors are doing here with banning anything and everything they feel like. Only with China, they go to extremes and just kill people who aren't following the rules.
Then you had Event 201 that war-gamed a pandemic. And within a month, a virus is released to start a pandemic.
And we have social media being used to either ban or correct "false information"... just as suggested in the Event 201 war-gaming.
And then there's Bill Gates who is against herd immunity and wants massive testing and vaccinations... who just happens to be in the business of tests and vaccinations.
And then there's Birx and Fauci connected to the Deep State.
And China and Gates control the WHO.
And Birx's relative who is involved with the Gates Foundation.
Yeah, maybe the last 5 weeks of working from home and dealing with Half-Whitmer and her army of Karens is heating me up and afixing the tinfoil a bit tighter to my head --- (I can see you all looking at me like Mel Gibson looking at his kids in Signs when they were wearing the tinfoil looking at the aliens book) --- but...
... if someone came on here last year and said that the entire nation's economy was going to be deliberately crashed by our own government by making the deliberate decision to shut everything down and keep people hostage in their homes, I likely would have been laughed off the blog. And yet, here we are...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: klaftern at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (RuIsu)
I'd advise waiting for my version 3.0. THEN you can panic!
Posted by: Bill Gates at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (Ibwur)
Posted by: Harry Reid at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (oVJmc)
No zoo
No baseball
No movies
No dining out
No having a beer at the local bar
I think I'm gonna go ahead and start drinking now.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (dUJdY)
I think I'm turning Japanese.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (Zz0t1)
So they can get masks to some of the at risk.
Posted by: notsothoreau
At risk of getting or giving? Because the mask won't do squat to keep you from getting Covid.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (wXHOL)
Dennehy flattened the curve?
Posted by: fd at April 16, 2020 02:19 PM (Tnijr)
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Flattened the curve? He was the curve.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 16, 2020 02:23 PM (m/eiQ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (r+sAi)
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Put me in the "No" column.
I'd ask for a "Fuck Off" column, but you seem like you are just honestly trying to get people back out.
I don't agree with this, but we are going to sacrafice certain things as a way of showing that we are doing something.
If I was a betting man, I'd scratch MLB this summer and potentially all sports for this year.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (sX1BW)
FREE SHIPPING!!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (oVJmc)
Major News Conference tonight, the White House at 6:00 P.M. (Eastern), to explain Guidelines for OPENING UP AMERICA AGAIN!
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (O+I8R)
However, a lot of the jobs that were there before are not going to be there now. Businesses that relied on a certain volume are not going to meet the break even point for a long time.
Many of the small businesses will not reopen.
So, there will have to be some supplement to keep things moving. Democrats will want dole it out in small portions to keep as many people as possible dependent on them.
We could do better.
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (mrrpT)
The best way to have the economy really get going is to get government out of the way.
Sadly, the reopening is going to give government far too much control.
Posted by: SH"
If the reopening is dragged out piece by piece for 3 months as they are discussing it will extend the economic catastrophe until... who the f*** knows? The only hope is an immediate end to the shutdowns while some people and businesses still have real money to spend. And an end to media panic mongering meant to keep people scared .
Posted by: Ripley at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (FX03m)
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Three fucking weeks ago, the CDC was saying masks.... especially banadanas..... were worhtless (they were right)
Now .... today .... they're MANDATORY in New York.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (aKsyK)
I enjoyed his calm explanations
I agree about masks having a psychological benefit
also, it miggt be good that masks are NOT perfect protection - we actually do want people to get infected, but at a slower rate and with hopefully milder symptoms
if viral load really is a factor, then masks and gloves will help attenuate both the rate of spread and severity
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (G546f)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (4f9mN)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (ZCEU2)
Maryland is just limited to inside stores and on public transportation.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (zqs/f)
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 02:25 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 16, 2020 02:25 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (r+sAi)
Mmmmmm.....boobies......
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
It makes you a Sheik?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM
Frankly, yes.
Posted by: Le Boute, watery tart at April 16, 2020 02:25 PM (DMUuz)
think they want complete economic meltdown and the annihilation of
small businesses.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (H8QX
The problem is when things start recovering and getting back to business as usual in various places. And I believe it will. It's going to force their hand or they will look like idiots who want their state in the toilet.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:25 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: squeakywheel at April 16, 2020 02:26 PM (c6p7u)
Posted by: pookysgirl, waiting for the snow to melt at April 16, 2020 02:26 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:26 PM (4k/Uz)
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (cF8AT)
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I do not know what the future holds except for this.
There is going to be a YUUUUUUUUGE fight Between the Karens who want to cure the virus thru house arrest and the 30 MILLION Joes and Janes that want to go back to work.
I dont know whos going to win... but the fight will bloody.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:26 PM (nw6Hr)
Change my mind.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (uKiy5)
Science is the application of the scientific method to acquire new knowledge, the testing of hypotheses by recourse to experimental observations as opposed to received truth or tortured "reasoning."
Farting around with retorts to transmute metals was not science. Alchemy etc. produced precious little new knowledge apart from strictly serendipitous discoveries.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:26 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Mike Bloomberg at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (J6bbM)
And besides - have you not seen how this works yet ? Give in on the masks - and the National Karens will simply go to their next demand. They don't stop.
This. And when the lockdowns start coming to an end, the Doomers (perhaps a better term than "Karens") are going to want to take it upon themselves to enforce and expand upon whatever limits are in place (masks, distancing, etc.)
Doomers vs. Non-Doomers. It's coming.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (SAK2A)
President Joe will save us all.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
If the Democrats steal the election, all this will definitely go away the day after the election.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (4f9mN)
Major News Conference tonight, the White House at 6:00 P.M. (Eastern), to explain Guidelines for OPENING UP AMERICA AGAIN!
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (cF8AT)
We need some light at the end of the tunnel, Mr. President. I sure hope you're bringing it.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (lwiT4)
So, there will have to be some supplement to keep things moving. Democrats will want dole it out in small portions to keep as many people as possible dependent on them.
We could do better.
Posted by: jwest
Yeah. We could end Democrats.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (wXHOL)
I do not want to see people in permanent lockdown. They have folks completely freaked out over this. Every time the President tries to be optimistic, we get this "we're all gonna die" nonsense. Placebo effect is very real, even though the pill does nothing. What will happen with mandatory mask wearing is that it will be enforced for a bit, and people will start to ignore it, especially when we get to hot weather. If it gets the economy going again, we should do it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (JKNZq)
But a fairly likely outcome of all this is corona dies down and things rev back up (not all the way) and continue revving. They don't want Trump to own that because that is his second term on a platter.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:18 PM (FX03m)
I think they're committed to stopping any recovery. I think they want complete economic meltdown and the annihilation of small businesses.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM (H8QX
Great Depression 2, American Bugaloo!
It's fairly well admitted in economics circles that Federal Policy not only made the Great Depression worse, but also made it much longer than it should have been.
Those Federal Policies were all based on Government control of the economy. Of the Government 'taking care' of people.
Now, doesn't that sound really familiar?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (NgKpN)
He and his Sikh sidekick also bragged about not cooperating with ICE.
He is a natural dictator by habit, temperament, and because he's a multi-millionaire who worked at Goldman Sachs and is used to doing whatever the fuck he wants.
But he won't EVER be called on it in NJ because the media is controlled by US Today--who ran virtually all the newspapers.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: sherpa_K2 at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (IiQek)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (ZCEU2)
The Stress Pandemic
Deliberately closing down the economy, which has never been done before, has created a more infectious, possibly more lethal disease than COVID-19. Let's call it the Stress Virus. For the Stress Pandemic there can be no vaccine. There is only one cure -- more jobs, more economic growth. Federal, state, and local governments should immediately begin to open the economy. Conditions in states, cities, localities vary. State and local officials should act accordingly with a clear goal: remove restrictions as fast as prudently possible.
...
The Wall Street Journal, in a recent article headlined "The Struggle to Cope With Depression Amid Coronavirus," noted:
The pandemic is upending everyone's lives. But it has been particularly destabilizing for the millions of people who deal with depression and anxiety. ... The stress of job losses and the shredding of routines and support systems can exacerbate symptoms and make relapse more likely, says Charles B. Nemeroff, chair of the department of psychiatry at the University of Texas at Austin's Dell Medical School. The National Alliance on Mental Illness says calls and e-mails have increased 40% in the past two weeks. ... The Crisis Text Line has seen demand in the U.S. rise by 40% since March 16.
I bet it's more like 50 plus percent by now.
Get help if you need it, guys. There's no shame.
The country is going to open up as soon as Trump rolls out the plan. It will be soon. But in the meantime...
h/t realclear politics
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (lC2iG)
And if you act now, we will give you a second COVID-19S Plus Pro absolutely free, and we will throw in lifetime updates at a low annual recurring fee of 6 trillion dollars.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (V+U0x)
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (O+I8R)
Brian Dennehy died.
Posted by: squeakywheel at April 16, 2020 02:26 PM (c6p7u)
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First off, sincerely, RIP Dennehy, and condolences to his family.
Secondly, because this AoS, I am COMPELLED to ask whether anyone has charted the resulting black hole.
And now, I denounce myself. Voluntary embarrelment.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (hDNne)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (84Pcq)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (gJNMH)
I spent my life at hospitals and there are way more people around 9-5 than the rest of the day. Attendings go home, and the floors are crawling with administrators, social workers and misc clerical people (billing, supply, laundy)
There is no law that says attendings must blow outta there by 5 ish and social workers and billing people could enter data at any time of day. One of the best surgeons I know used to book ORs exclusively after 6p. There was no pressure on space and the evening and night staffs were less stressed by the numbers of people arriving post-op to the units. And who would not rather have an attending or two around at 10p rather than a resident?
A lot of the nursing and assistants work 12h days and only three days a week. While you always need an adequate number of these, you could "distance" better if the other shifts (even if this was in ad administrative building) were utilized by non healthcare regulars. Computers still work after 5p
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (ONvIw)
I will not wear a mask.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Finish it.
Oh, I thought you were reciting something from Dr Seuss.
Muldoon?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (4f9mN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (4f9mN)
Crazy Nancy Pelosi deleted this from her Twitter account. She wanted everyone to pack into Chinatown long after I closed the BORDER TO CHINA. Based on her statement, she is responsible for many deaths. She's an incompetent, third-rate politician!
https://tinyurl.com/yb9cmdfb
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:17 PM (ZCEU2)
Only true in Riverside county, not statewide, IIRC.
https://tinyurl.com/vb6ulwr
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (YqDXo)
Mine does starting Friday and we have had 2 deaths in a population of over 500 thousand
Posted by: It's me donna at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (svbBD)
Finish it.
Oh, I thought you were reciting something from Dr Seuss.
Muldoon?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:28 PM (4f9mN)
I will not wear a mask.
I will not wear one in a cask.
I will not wear one in the store.
I just might wear one with a whore.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)
Science is the application of the scientific method to acquire new knowledge, the testing of hypotheses by recourse to experimental observations as opposed to received truth or tortured "reasoning."
Farting around with retorts to transmute metals was not science. Alchemy etc. produced precious little new knowledge apart from strictly serendipitous discoveries.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Some of the first scientific experiments were the ones with maggots and meat, right? Redi?
Control and consistency are my ideas of scientific experimentation, and those only really started in the 17th century. The Scots, persnickety as they are, really got that ball rolling.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (uKiy5)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (JKNZq)
No more Morgan Freeman, no more Benji, no more CGI dinosaurs in Jurassic Park.
No more claymation California Raisins.
No more Brian Blessed's codpiece in 'Flash Gordon.'
Like tears in rain.
RIP, Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (oVJmc)
Not everyone is tested, and extrapolating from incomplete datasets is
not a sound basis for public policy.
The better course is to compare no isolation versus isolation. Same curve.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:15 PM
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So far the death rate in Texas is 0.02%. We shut down a State with over 30 million people in it for statistical noise.
And when this is all said and done the death rate will turn out to be less than 1/10th of 1 percent.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: x at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (cF8AT)
Trump plays the game better than all his opponents combined.
This movie is playing out exactly like the sequel to 2016. 2016 was a young upstart hero with all the odds stacked against him, winning the fight against all comers, with a ridiculous seemingly impossible to overcome obstacle at the very end (the pussy tape) before finally vanquishing the big baddie The Hag.
2020 is the sequel. Which is basically the same movie again, but with the stakes raised to even more unbelievable levels, with greater odds stacked against, and finishing with an even more impossible escape...
I'd like to see Madison's riff on this idea.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (FX03m)
You would think that they had enough with Goldman alumni after Jon Corzine, but no.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (iuFgi)
Crazy Nancy Pelosi deleted this from her Twitter account. She wanted everyone to pack into Chinatown long after I closed the BORDER TO CHINA. Based on her statement, she is responsible for many deaths. She's an incompetent, third-rate politician!
https://tinyurl.com/yb9cmdfb
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (cF8AT)
*insert mic drop here
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: JAS at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (2BZBZ)
Which is one good thing about the metal mailbox on our house. Afternoon sun heats up the contents to a virus killing temp. Hotmail indeed.
Posted by: Rex B at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (707QJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (4f9mN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (2DOZq)
"Ask the right fucking questions." Rusty Cohle
No one does.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (H8QX8)
Nancy was that good enough for you......... BITCH.
Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (qM84C)
Posted by: notsothoreau
The way it's been explained here many times, is that the mask keeps you from spreading it.
It doesn't keep you from getting it at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (wXHOL)
Even if you ask
I will not wear a mask
that's all I got
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (4f9mN)
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So FUCK YOU KAREN.
Kiss my ass.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Ripley at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)
Finish Her!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)
Major News Conference tonight, the White House at 6:00 P.M. (Eastern), to explain Guidelines for OPENING UP AMERICA AGAIN!
Posted by: Tami at April 16, 2020 02:24 PM (cF8AT)
No doubt to be followed by Acting President Andrew Cuomo ordering NY to be shut down until June 30.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (2JVJo)
I'd like to see Madison's riff on this idea.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (FX03m)
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2016: Alien
2020: Aliens
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (5bxa0)
That's nuts.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (lwiT4)
1. Bring critical supply chains back home - to do this need regulation restrictions and tax incentives.
2. Non critical supply chains decentralized away from China - heavy tarriffs - or other things.
3. Payroll tax holiday - for both employee and employer.
4. Extend deductions for businesses. Trump's reasturant deductibility is a great idea.
5. More PPP $$.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (sX1BW)
Finish Her!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)
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Trump's uncouth. We must lose to atone for this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:33 PM (LvTSG)
Ventilatorstorage.com
There's a shitload of ventilators in the pipeline and I don't know if there's anyplace to put them.
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:33 PM (mrrpT)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:33 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:33 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
It makes you a Sheik?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2020 02:22 PM
Frankly, yes.
Posted by: Le Boute, watery tart at April 16, 2020 02:25 PM
Better catch it then otherwise we may be calling you TheDollyMadison
Posted by: Diogenes at April 16, 2020 02:33 PM (axyOa)
Trump had a teleconference with the G7 where he recommended the defunding of the WHO, who gets a billion dollars from the G7 countries.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Mayor Cocksucker Walsh of Boston put out a Chinatown Bingo Card in February to ENCOURAGE people to go.
The "bingo card" had different things you could do in Chinatown to complete the squares on the card.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (4f9mN)
Sub-spin: Trump will kill people to get re-elected.
Soon-to-be-the-new-hotness spin: Trump wants to kill black people so white people can go work and make money, and anyone who supports even the most moderate easing of restrictions is racist.
Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (ZfRYq)
Finish Her!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2020 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)
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Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (OAlmw)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (FX03m)
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He can write the plot, but I want the title:
"T '20: Wuhan Drift"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (hDNne)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at
I'm afraid you may be right. I though our state would be a bell weather for re-opening. But considering the new order our (R) gov signed this morning, I see she doesn't the balls to lead. And just when I was hopeful that things were going to relent
Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (gJNMH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:27 PM (4f9mN)
Why would they give up keeping the population in abject fear, and under the thumb of government at all possible levels? It would mean they skipped like 20 steps on the way to their commie utopia.
Hell, it's not like they'd be worrying about future elections. Those will become just like the ones in Iran etc where the Democrat wins 100% to 0.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (FX03m)
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Wont do that if you dont remove it and dispose of it without contaminating everything.
Was out walking the dog the other morning. Watched a man with his mask not covering his nose go into a grocery store. He takes it off when he go to the door, wiped his face and hands with it, stuffs it in his jacket packet, then proceed to handle three carts until he finds one without the wobbly wheel.
Yeah.... I feel safer already.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: runner at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (2JVJo)
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Edited for clarity.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM
I guarantee you that at least a few dem govs will extend the house arrest at least over July 4th as a final FU to America.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (4f9mN)
Was one of them "harvest organs from the Falun Gong"?
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:34 PM (4f9mN)
Was "catch Chinese lung rot" the center free square?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (GhGb5)
Posted by: runner at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (zr5Kq)
ya, he said he's going to give an award of some sort too
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 16, 2020 02:35 PM (bvp+i)
Ventilatorstorage.com
There's a shitload of ventilators in the pipeline and I don't know if there's anyplace to put them.
Posted by: jwest
Is MaskRUs.com taken?
Posted by: Ripley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (8fB/R)
https://tinyurl.com/vb6ulwr
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (YqDXo)
Hey, guess where I'm from? And where I left as soon as I was old enough to get married and get the hell out of there? I wouldn't live in Riverside again for a million dollars.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (SAK2A)
2016: Alien
2020: Aliens
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (LvTSG)
LOL nice
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (FX03m)
Not much comment from these dumbasses when they proclaim they are being all brave and saving lives when you bring up that people will be losing their lives whem they lose their businesses and everything they ever worked for.
Just awful people.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (lg/F7)
Ventilator Barn is next to Mask Depot
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: CDC at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (88+cf)
Work for you ? Works for me.
Posted by: Won't Wear the Mask at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (Dj5/i)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Dick Poulin at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (Cozcj)
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (uKiy5)
Galileo? Newton?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (YqDXo)
It's a thin piece of polyester and spandex. Thin. Like the weight of Karen's fancy underwear.
I feel safer already.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (4k/Uz)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (SAK2A)
Snitch rhymes with all kinds of stuff
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (ONvIw)
Okay I got 26, 26 is bid, who'll give me 30...
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (iTXRQ)
Big G Express
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (8fB/R)
They are the largest logistics company in the world.
The company I work for is in the top 10.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
1. Bring critical supply chains back home - to do this need regulation restrictions and tax incentives.
2. Non critical supply chains decentralized away from China - heavy tarriffs - or other things.
3. Payroll tax holiday - for both employee and employer.
4. Extend deductions for businesses. Trump's reasturant deductibility is a great idea.
5. More PPP $$.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:32 PM (sX1BW)
That's a good 10 year plan, but I'm worried about that 10 - 15% of the population who are going to be biting down on the barrel of a gun after about 2 or 3 months of no employment, bills pouring in, arguments, insecurity, despair and hopelessness.
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (mrrpT)
Posted by: Downcast at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (hRKPi)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Chirpy Tanager at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (707QJ)
reminder
2:15 PM EDT
President Trump Delivers Remarks Celebrating America's Truckers
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 01:56 PM (8fB/R)
It's still on. It's fun.
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (UZ8BZ)
This makes it difficult to mock Karens in rhyme.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
Karen wants to talk to the person in charge.
Time to send in Large Marge.
Set Karen's ass adrift on the leaky barge.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (wXHOL)
Posted by: Downcast at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (hRKPi)
He would've been a great John Brennan.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (xPl2J)
Our governor is a total asshoe
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (iTXRQ)
Health
Arkham Asylum Releases All Inmates Amid Coronavirus Fears
-
From the Bee.
https://bit.ly/2RI1twI
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (+y/Ru)
https://tinyurl.com/vb6ulwr
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (YqDXo)
Hey, guess where I'm from? And where I left as soon as I was old enough to get married and get the hell out of there? I wouldn't live in Riverside again for a million dollars.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (Ez6QX)
The only reason I am familiar with Riverside is because a purported Zodiac murder happened there - Cheri Jo Bates.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (2JVJo)
This makes it difficult to mock Karens in rhyme.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (SAK2A)
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Tanager. It's a bird.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: Chirpy Tanager at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (707QJ)
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Karen said... "I want to speak to the Manager".
So.. I picked up a tire iron and I ran at her.
*squints*
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (8fB/R)
There are some lovely buildings around the country from that experiment and it did get money into the hands of families that needed it.Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (4k/Uz)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (SAK2A)
Snitch rhymes with all kinds of stuff
Posted by: CN
Snitches get ditches.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (wXHOL)
We've gone from a government and society that once understood the limits of government, to one in which government acts without any limit, and without thought of limit, unless or until the last available Court has told them they can't.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (lcQJG)
This makes it difficult to mock Karens in rhyme.
how about some Karen haiku
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (JKNZq)
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Didn't watch it but I bet he says one of the keys to success over any virus is "never trust China. China is asshole."
Posted by: WisRich at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (OAlmw)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (4k/Uz)
Nothing rhymes with "manager."
This makes it difficult to mock Karens in rhyme.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (SAK2A)
Then we're at a disadvantage, sir.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (I54dk)
Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (j37Ud)
Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (5fSr7)
Posted by: CDC at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (88+cf)
Are you freaking kidding me?? Shoot me now.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (lwiT4)
Ventilator Barn is next to Mask Depot
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
Iron Lungs R Us!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (pS94+)
And savaging Pelosi will have zero impact on anything. Fun, but keep it in perspective. Same with all the righteous smackdowns of the press. Fun but not important, at least any more.
An actual full-court press on Dem obstruction of SBA funding - well that might yield something. But that requires a president with a party to help out.
Yeah.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:30 PM (uKiy5)
Galileo? Newton?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (YqDXo)
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William Sealy Gosset at Guinness brewing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (JKNZq)
Maybe. About 75% of employees at the store I visited this AM were wearing the masks with noses entirely uncovered a la Schumer. They'd have some nerve demanding that others wear one correctly
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (8fB/R)
with a Master of Fine Arts in dramatic art from Yale
which he got after un undergrad degree in History
from Columbia...
on a football scholarship...
after four years in the Marine Corps.
Big sissy.
The biggest.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (8IOEj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (4k/Uz)
Um, that's Riverdale...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (pS94+)
If President Trump makes it clear there won't be anymore trillion dollar bills with free money, I think these governors will reconsider their options.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (4f9mN)
I will not if a Karen asks
I will not wear them in a shop
I will not wear them drinking pop
I will not wear them to the store
I will not, would not, bigmouth wh*re
I will not wear them you little snitch
I will not wear them, Karen b*tch
I will not wear green gloves and masks.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (SAK2A)
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!!!!!?????
Who's going to play every badass everywhere forever more?
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Coincidentally, I'm available most days now.
Posted by: RBG at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (pS94+)
Those were ghastly things
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: CDC at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (88+cf)
Are you freaking kidding me?? Shoot me now.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (lwiT4)
Change "me" to...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (pS94+)
Yes It Is! No, It 'Snot - a limerick
Now here's the thing, if truth be told
This mask-wearing stuff's getting old
If you go out, not wearin'
Keep your distance from Karen
Or you migh catch a really bad scold!
Posted by: Muldoon at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (m45I2)
It's a thin piece of polyester and spandex. Thin. Like the weight of Karen's fancy underwear.
I feel safer already.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
Save it. That'll never pass muster in a class action lawsuit.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (wXHOL)
I am surprised that, for such a cocksucking RINO, Baker has been fairly moderate during this phony crisis. We were supposed to open back up yesterday, but of course not.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (lwiT4)
Wifey was talking about buying plane tickets to go out and visit our kids there this summer. They are going for a song now but told here to wait. Glad we did.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (GhGb5)
Our governor is a total asshoe
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (7ZQe3)
The only thing that surprises me is that he extended before Illinois. I want to swear. I won't, but I really want to.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (4k/Uz)
Um, that's Riverdale...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (pS94+)
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WHERE THE ELVES LIVE!!!
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (UZ8BZ)
in one city
in one town
in one state
in the entire US?!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (IwDj9)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Ripley at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: CDC at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM (88+cf)
Are you freaking kidding me?? Shoot me now.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:41 PM (lwiT4)
Wait and see. If other areas open up, things might change. Not only will they see other cities starting to thrive again, but the people of the states being held down are going to go nuts if they see the successes of the others if they could be in the same shape.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Dr. Anecdotey Fauci at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (ZCEU2)
It really is. Not just truckers, but the much larger group of people worrying about the availability of groceries.
Genius.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:40 PM (4k/Uz)
That was Riverdale.
Based on Haverhill, MA.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (4k/Uz)
Posted by: Gruppenfuehrer Karen O'Karenheimer - One Karen to Rule Them All at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Maybe if you include DeutschePost volume....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: Gman at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (lwiT4)
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No you wont. just dont copy and past any more emails.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (ONvIw)
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I read an article some months ago that there are still three people in the U.S. on iron lungs.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (UZ8BZ)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (El6T/)
And it's been flat for three days on the site I use.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (lwiT4)
I will not wear them, Karen b*tch
I will not wear green gloves and masks.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (SAK2A)
See. Works perfectly.
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (ONvIw)
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In all seriousness, how many straps?
Two and it's considered a respirator and requires fit testing. I'm guessing 995% of new mask users aren't getting fit testing or any training.
"Here, put this on."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (IwDj9)
Nothing rhymes with "manager."
This makes it difficult to mock Karens in rhyme.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (SAK2A)
Onager?
Asian wild ass native to northern Iran
Posted by: Downcast at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (hRKPi)
Posted by: grammie winger at April
Agreed, wholeheartedly!
Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (gJNMH)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM
Ha!
My daughter and family just moved up from there last fall. They were in Moreno Valley.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (axyOa)
Yup Kim Jun Evers is gonna regret the day he pulled this one.
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (UZ8BZ)
proclaim they are being all brave and saving lives when you bring up
that people will be losing their lives whem they lose their businesses
and everything they ever worked for.
Just awful people.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at April 16, 2020 02:37 PM
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Trying to explain this to my buddy in CT who is a Trump hater and a democrat.
He either refuses to think anything bad is going to happen to the small business people or his Trump hatred blinds him to what is happening, I am not sure which it is.
Gave him the example of the tire store owned by one guy who has 2 other guys working for him.
Nobody is buying tires right now the only thing his shop is doing is flat repairs. He doesn't make enough to keep three people working with that so he let's his two guys go and is going it alone.
He still is not making enough money to pay his bills. Mortgage, Insurance and utilities still have to be paid and now he is dipping into his savings to pay them. Eventually he will go bankrupt if this lasts much longer than the next few weeks.
My buddy says he will be OK because the government will loan him money to stay afloat. I say fine, but he has to repay that money on top of his current bills and he was just getting by and able to put a little away every month, he really can't afford a loan payment, plus it's going to take a long time for his business to get back to where it was.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (JUOKG)
I expect to know about MA after the president speaks tonight.
I am surprised that, for such a cocksucking RINO, Baker has been fairly moderate during this phony crisis. We were supposed to open back up yesterday, but of course not.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (2JVJo)
MA in the Cuomo 7 that announced May 15.
He reiterated his plans to work with other governors on a coordinated plan to gradually reopen commerce in the region. Cuomo is leading a working group of seven governors from the Northeast, including New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Delaware, who are coordinating their response to the pandemic.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (8fB/R)
That stuff really is good for you!
I might at least mention Sedlmayr, a hundred years earlier, and Jacobsen's famous top hat.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (8IOEj)
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In all seriousness, how many straps?
Two and it's considered a respirator and requires fit testing. I'm guessing 995% of new mask users aren't getting fit testing or any training.
"Here, put this on."
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It has two ear loops.
Made to last perhaps four days of regular wear.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (4k/Uz)
The smackdowns of Pelosi and the press are *extremely* important. Trump didn't get where he is by accident.
If you don't keep bashing the press and Pelosi, they will eventually wrest away the narrative and provide their own *convincingly*. Pelosi was trying to act like she's his boss just yesterday. That's really important for persuading people. For making Trump appear weak or not in control.
He needs to appear in control. Like Republicans are in control, not Democrats. Shit, half of good leadership is appearing to be in control. It's an election year. This stuff matters bigly.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (2JVJo)
not gonna happen
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: CN
Wear it hanging off one ear.
Or on your elbow. Since that's where you are supposed to cough anyway.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (wXHOL)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (8fB/R)
Anyone give me a thirty, can I hear thirty?
Anyone want to raise it to thirty?
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (ZCEU2)
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
28m
Major News Conference tonight, the White House at 6:00 P.M. (Eastern), to explain Guidelines for OPENING UP AMERICA AGAIN!
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (iTXRQ)
However, he needs to have states like FL and TX open back up and lead the way.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (svbBD)
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (UZ8BZ)
I read an article some months ago that there are still three people in the U.S. on iron lungs.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (sGotD)
There was a girl in one on an episode of CHiPs.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (I54dk)
That makes me fell a little better.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (2JVJo)
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Sweet.
I'm jealous. I haven't written in at least a week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (LvTSG)
Our governor is a total asshoe
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:39 PM (7ZQe3)
The only thing that surprises me is that he extended before Illinois. I want to swear. I won't, but I really want to.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (lwiT4)
Pritzker may do the ' Rona Tease, and announce another Month, the day before the house arrest ends. Because he can.
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: The Raleigh Police, B. Fife, Captain at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (Ndje9)
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I've agreed with those who said give every citizen $$ - say $1,000 per adult per month and $500 per kid - do this for next 3 months.
Then tax it as income for this year at some rate.
So those who really didn't need it will pay it back.
Something like that.
Posted by: SH at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:29 PM (2DOZq)
H1N1 wasn't nearly as transmissible. People got visibly sick quickly and ended up isolated from others soon enough that it didn't spread far and wide. COVID spends days in the throat giving people mild symptoms before eventually effecting the lungs, when people go "Oh, shit! I can't breath. Call the doctor."
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (zqs/f)
This makes it difficult to mock Karens in rhyme.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2020 02:36 PM (
The Empress Dowager
Posted by: Diogenes at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (lcQJG)
Yup Kim Jun Evers is gonna regret the day he pulled this one.
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (7ZQe3)
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I live near Lake Michigan. We don't get 65 degree weather until the end of June! "Cooler by the Lake" really stinks in the spring.
Posted by: WisRich at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (OAlmw)
All depends on events. Trump extended initial federal guidance (doubled it). He's about to partially and conditionally change *that*, too.
This was all predicted and predictable.
Carry on.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (2JVJo)
--
"Some old people died in NYC after they rode the subway, so we're putting a chain in front of this boat ramp in rural Wisconsin."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (IwDj9)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (8fB/R)
It was great! Thanks for the reminder that is was happening.
Posted by: m at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (UZ8BZ)
That makes me fell a little better.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (2JVJo)
you make some of us feel guilty
o_O
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (84Pcq)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (CqE5x)
I read an article some months ago that there are still three people in the U.S. on iron lungs.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (sGotD)
But most are scrapped. I recall visiting someone in one in many many years ago.
Posted by: CN at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (ONvIw)
May 26??? IMHE projection shows peak WI medical demand as ..... April 14, 2 days ago. WTF?
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (El6T/)
And it's been flat for three days on the site I use.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (lwiT4)
IMHE models for the US says it was updated 4/13. Only showing actual deaths as of 4/11.
NH updated 4/12
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:42 PM (lwiT4)
No problem, we can take care of that.
I think the legislature may get feisty about it, because there is a 60 day limit on the governors dictatorial powers which expires May 11.
Posted by: Roland THTG at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (88+cf)
Posted by: Ann at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (NDO5Q)
"Why, I arrested Christians, son! They were trying to pray together!"
"And that...helped?"
Posted by: Wally at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (V5EEH)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (lwiT4)
I just heard this on the radio on my way home from work. Grammie I had the exact same thoughts as you. Apparently school is done for the year, but golf courses will be allowed to open.
Posted by: My life is insanity at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (N4ZRs)
Posted by: Ripley at April 16, 2020 02:43 PM (MxEKc)
We peaked a full 8 days before the predicted peak and 10 days before the first lock down was supposed to end. Governor dipshit still extended the house arrest for another four weeks (to 5/15), and I bet he has another one planned to go further. I've said this many times, they are lying to us.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (GhGb5)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:49 PM (90T4r)
One of the benefits of working at an engineering and fabrication company is that we have been 3D printing masks for our employees for several weeks now.
It literally looks like Bane's mask.
And actually the biggest challenge was the elastic strap and choosing a readily available and source able material.
We settled on black hair bands cut in half.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (V+U0x)
is leading a working group of seven governors from the Northeast,
including New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Connecticut,
Massachusetts and Delaware, who are coordinating their response to the pandemic.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (8fB/R)
This is again only to make it seem like it's Democrat leaders who are in control, like Trump is sidelined because he can't handle anything.
Especially when the recovery starts, they want it to seem like they "managed" us to a recovery. When you hear Trump say things that sound weird, put it in this context and it will make sense. That's what his challenge of the 10th amendment last week was about. Staying top dog.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (FX03m)
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The shutdowns are not about public health.
This is Cloward-Piven, in practice.
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (JUOKG)
I see the problem right there.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (9Om/r)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2020 02:45 PM (sGotD)
There was a girl in one on an episode of CHiPs.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 16, 2020 02:47 PM (I54dk)
A fellow in an iron lung is a plot device in the musical City of Angels.
And when I was younger, I worked in a factory that made plastic ventilators for iron lungs.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Prefect Piercing at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (2JVJo)
Remember Liberals have to be mugged before their eyes are opened and even that's not a guarantee. I have a feeling more than a few are being mugged right now . That's why the Left are using all their tools to rewrite history and try to blame that mugging on Trump.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (lwiT4)
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Ha. That's an OSHA violation if your employer gave it to you without training.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (IwDj9)
Yup Kim Jun Evers is gonna regret the day he pulled this one.
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (7ZQe3)
*******
Nah... based on the results of Tuesday's election... he's got this.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (wiXsO)
Galileo? Newton?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
OK, Galileo remains the outlier, always. The "scientific method" would probably be a better parameter for debate than "science", since observational theories (as opposed to experimental attempts), since we had Archimedes and Pythagoras in ancient times, too.
Since we are just fucking around here, it's not like there's any real clear line but certainly the late 1700s saw a change in quality as to what constituted "science." Even so, there remained serious resistance to the new methods until the late 19th century.
Our notion of what constitutes valid science has always puzzled me, especially now with the widespread adoption of "modeling" as a substitute for hard, reproduceable experimentation.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (uKiy5)
Posted by: megthered at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (SM/op)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (JUOKG)
Lots of people around who think like your buddy.
Whatever the government does, it will be too little, too late. Even those that survive with the dribble of cash from the fed, it will be years before these small businesses get back to the point where they can start hiring like they used to.
We could do better.
Posted by: jwest at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (mrrpT)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (90T4r)
We settled on black hair bands cut in half.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman
Bungee cords are full of elastic bands.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (wXHOL)
and most of the people i see-and I'm starting to see people with PLASTIC SHIELDS over their face in addition to masks--are afraid to face normal life again.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (oVJmc)
From the get-go, the governors have made the actual calls. As they pretty much corresponded to the task force recommendations, there wasn't any squabbling. Squabbling was about resources, not "lockdowns".
At least 4 or 5 different categories of states based on conditions. Policies will correspond to those varied conditions - or not - but not a blame game.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2020 02:52 PM (El6T/)
Unrelenting whiney bitch
I had to kill her
I'll appear in person to accept my award...ty, tyvm...
Posted by: browndog at April 16, 2020 02:52 PM (gD6Ka)
My daughter and family just moved up from there last fall. They were in Moreno Valley.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 16, 2020 02:46 PM (axyOa)
Moreno Valley is marginally better. Riverside is a complete shithole. My husband and I drove past our old high school, and all we saw were tons of Mexican girls pushing strollers (apparently there's a day care at the school now).
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2020 02:52 PM (Ez6QX)
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CDC says it infected 60 MILLION people.
Try again.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:52 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: tubal at April 16, 2020 02:51 PM (90T4r)
yep, me too
oy
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:53 PM (8fB/R)
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So do I. A couple of blocks away. I feel your pain. Or I would if I wasn't frozen.
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 16, 2020 02:53 PM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Cheri at April 16, 2020 02:53 PM (oiNtH)
Especially when the recovery starts, they want it to seem like they "managed" us to a recovery. When you hear Trump say things that sound weird, put it in this context and it will make sense. That's what his challenge of the 10th amendment last week was about. Staying top dog.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (FX03m)[/i
Yes, a coordinated undermining.
Trump will win.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:54 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: WarEagle82 at April 16, 2020 02:54 PM (+Kpte)
May 26??? IMHE projection shows peak WI medical demand as ..... April 14, 2 days ago. WTF?
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The shutdowns are not about public health.
This is Cloward-Piven, in practice.
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (kOpft)
People -as a whole -- aren't going to wait another 6 weeks in lockdown.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 16, 2020 02:54 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2020 02:48 PM (zqs/f)
Or nothing happens to them at all.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:55 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2020 02:55 PM (84Pcq)
Posted by: redridinghood
Yep...it's what Wisconsin wants.
Pritz is next up. I think he'll follow Cuomo..extend to the 15th. Cancel school, too. Big whoop, there.
Posted by: lizabth at April 16, 2020 02:55 PM (L3Rsz)
This is Cloward-Piven, in practice.
Posted by: Methos at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (kOpft)
Absolutely, certifiably, 100% correct.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 16, 2020 02:56 PM (H8QX8)
You know they already had 'the talk' with Trump's people.
It IS Cloward-Piven.
Let's see how Trump responds.
Posted by: lizabth at April 16, 2020 02:57 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: lizabth at April 16, 2020 02:59 PM (L3Rsz)
Our notion of what constitutes valid science has always puzzled me, especially now with the widespread adoption of "modeling" as a substitute for hard, reproduceable experimentation.
Posted by: imp at April 16, 2020 02:50 PM (uKiy5)
The rationalism that led up to Bacon and Newton was the peak of epistemology. The topic should have been closed because everything that came after--especially those German assholes starting with Kant--was backsliding.
This is why our Founding Fathers appear to us to be intellectually omniscient. In a way they were because they had access to all the goodness of rationalism before it was ruined. The French were not so lucky.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 16, 2020 02:59 PM (I54dk)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2020 02:54 PM (8fB/R)
And people will still be shocked, his opponents hopefully most of all. The guy is like Houdini. And he is working for *us*.
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 02:59 PM (FX03m)
Posted by: rhomboid
BREAKING
IMHE model renamed WAG-timate
Posted by: MiklosWatch at April 16, 2020 02:59 PM (QzkSJ)
This tyrant should be escorted out of the office and directly to prison to await the People's Court decision on how and when he should be executed. This is Hitler-level tyranny going on.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at April 16, 2020 02:54 PM (+Kpte)
Ten minutes until Wopner.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 16, 2020 03:00 PM (I54dk)
Maybe if you include DeutschePost volume....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2020 02:44 PM (dLLD6)/i]
They're the largest revenue.
Trust me....They bought the company I started my career in IT with. I know what they bring to the table and where they stand.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)
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CDC says it infected 60 MILLION people.
Try again.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 16, 2020 02:52 PM (nw6Hr)
I can't. AoSHQ commenting system doesn't have an edit button.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2020 03:00 PM (zqs/f)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 16, 2020 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: lizabth at April 16, 2020 03:02 PM (L3Rsz)
I'm going long on popcorn.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 16, 2020 03:05 PM (cCxiu)
(I know my spelling isn't perfect)
Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2020 03:06 PM (lC2iG)
Posted by: ... at April 16, 2020 03:07 PM (FX03m)
I get Tucker's overall outrage - but I don't see how this is a violation
of the BoR. He may be in violation of his own state's constitution.
Posted by: parsimony at April 16, 2020 01:33 PM (Ho6FD)
As a first pass, jackasses like Phil Murphy are violating the free exercise and assembly clauses of the First Amendment. I am sure others can point out other ways they are running afoul of the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at April 16, 2020 03:17 PM (nAiE/)
Phil Murphy is no the entirety of N.J. We didn't vote for him. We don't like him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2020 03:17 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: One More Zap Rowsdower for the Road at April 16, 2020 03:19 PM (cUpB1)
Ironically.
Posted by: Fox2! at April 16, 2020 03:20 PM (X/5o4)
Why? There are quite a few practicing Christians and Jews in N.J. We don't worship Satan.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2020 03:22 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: BluesFish at April 16, 2020 03:37 PM (WQZ1O)
Posted by: Nikola's Notion at April 16, 2020 04:23 PM (hrHLc)
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Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)