Thanks to Trump's Emergency Order to Seal the Border, Illegal Border Crossers Are Being Deported Back to Mexico in an Average of 96 Minutes from Apprehension

We asked the former Republican leadership class, as well as the operatives and grifters of Conservative, Inc., to close the borders and take citizenship seriously for thirty years.

They ignored us. They made illegal border crossing de facto legal and they made illegal aliens de facto citizens.

We asked again in 2008. We asked for a wall.

They ignored us again. They offered us instead a "high tech virtual fence."

We had begun to understand that when they made these alleged compromise counter-offers, they were just trying to put us off.

Like they put off and waylaid the pro-life movement every two or four years, always promising to do something, but always funding Planned Parenthood in the end.

They were hoping that with rhetoric and "high tech virtual fences," we'd be suckered again and let them continue their de facto open borders policies.

We demanded a border in 2012.

Again, they ignored us, and in the official 2012 RNC "post-mortem," the same corporatists and open borders libertarians that dominate the Cash Money Wing of the Republican Party demanded that we embrace amnesty and open borders.

Now we began to understand that the corporatists, paid shills, and corporate-sponsored operatives and "journalists" were not working for us, but instead working for corporatists who wanted open borders.

We were not their clients. Their actual clients were the big-money interests paying them through the front groups Cato, AEI, and CEI. The open borders corporate class were their clients -- we were merely the targets of their bought-and-paid-for advertising campaign.

As they say with "free" internet services: if you're not paying for the product, you are the product. If you're not paying someone for their product, you are the product that they're packaging up and selling.

And so it is with Conservatism, Inc., and the bought-and-paid-for corporate-sponsored allegedly "independent" Conservatism, Inc. "journalists."

You're not their actual clients. You're the suckers they're advertising to, the chumps they're propagandizing to on behalf of their actual clients.

Same thing with National Review.

And even though we were waking up to the hustle, and becoming increasingly impolite in our demands -- still they ignored us.

In 2015-2016, we finally fully realized that our alleged representatives and our "journalists" -- supposedly arguing our agenda to the powers that ran the country -- were actually only interested in arguing the agenda of the powers that control the country to us.

And so we finally declared our independence from them and took a chance on an uncouth businessman and reality tv show host.

This wasn't because we loved Trump.

It's because we had been betrayed, abused, lied to, and sold out by the current leadership, and were willing to take the chance on anyone who was not from this coterie of proven liars and traitors.

I always laugh when I hear the corporate owned-and-operated propagandists of Conservative, Inc. attacking Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity for being mere broadcast pundits, as if attempting to reflect the broad consensus of actual conservative thinking was ignoble, cheap, and "cheating."

Here's the thing: I know who Levin's, Limbaugh's, and Hannity's bosses are. Their bosses are the audience. If they don't please the audience, they lose their shows.

It is true that an audience can be wrong and lead you astray.

True.

Does that mean they have to pander to the audience?

Sure, sometimes. Anyone cultivating an audience does in fact have to attempt to please that audience.

But the thing is: I know who Rush Limbaugh's boss is. I know the biases of its boss.

He has done full disclosure on who his boss is.

But who are Tim Carney's and Ramesh Ponuru's bosses? No, don't say AEI - AEI takes money from specific corporations and foundations to fund its "fellows."

Who are the people actually funding Tim Carney and Ramesh Ponuru?

Who are they pandering to?

Again, I know who's pulling Rush Limbaugh's and Mark Levin's strings.

Who's pulling theirs? Who is their actual client?

Whose favor do they have to curry and cultivate, or else lose their jobs?

Why won't they disclose it?

Now, after four years after we told this class to fuck off, they're still butthurt and assmad about it and wondering why we "crazy unreasonable deplorables" rejected their generous offer to continue being our "thought leaders."

And meanwhile: they're still pushing open borders bullshit.

Would a single one of these unamerican traitors have closed the border to Mexico, even during a major pandemic?

NO. They would have offered us further "high tech virtual fences" and "sophisticated online monitoring of border area hot spots for epidemics."

And still they wonder -- Why did they reject us?

Bolstered by emergency measures brought on by the coronavirus pandemic, Border Patrol agents at the U.S.-Mexico border are able to return illegal crossers at an extremely fast rate.
Aliens who unlawfully cross into the United States are being sent back to Mexico at an average of 96 minutes, according to government officials who spoke with The Washington Post. The rapid return rate is largely thanks to the Trump administration’s emergency order, which was put into place earlier in March.

Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf, following orders from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), announced on March 20 that the northern and southern borders would be closed to all non-essential traffic to stop the spread of COVID-19, and that nearly anyone caught illegally crossing into the United States would be immediately sent back.
Since that announcement, Department of Homeland Security leaders have reported a roughly 50% decline in illegal border crossings. Wolf and Mark Morgan, the acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, have publicly confirmed the dramatic fall in illegal crossings in March.
The emergency measures are also allowing Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which oversees Border Patrol, to quickly return those that do choose to illegally cross the southern border.
Per the guidelines, Border Patrol agents are processing foreign nationals from Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala “in the field” before they enter a Border Patrol station. Medical exams are reportedly not administered to these aliens, which dramatically shortens processing time, and then they are ultimately rushed back to Mexico.

An agent said the hastened process diminishes the risk of exposure to everyone involved.
"The goal is to minimize the exposure to the alien, agent and our country," a CBP official told WaPo.

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1 close the tag attempt

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 02:26 PM (zZbCU)

2 90 minutes can save your country.

Posted by: Caliban at April 03, 2020 02:27 PM (QE8X6)

3 Finally.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (/xBTM)

4
Let's hope that this lasts way beyond the Peking Pox Panic.

And actually get that time down to 96 seconds.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (pS94+)

5 Walls are asshoes!

Posted by: Moron Robbie got the Kung Flu Grippe at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (1R1vy)

6 ...and TheJamesMadison can save the day.

Posted by: Caliban at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (QE8X6)

7
Sign in all ICE centers on the border: "You are less than 100 minutes away from the trebuchet ride of a lifetime!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (pNxlR)

8 Funny, I must have seen like 5 stories over on /r/politics about how Mexico is now clamoring that the US be stricter about the border because they don't want our sick people and the geniuses over on Reddit think that's so clever.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (h+Dtu)

9 6 ...and TheJamesMadison can save the day.
Posted by: Caliban at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (QE8X6)

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Even one italican joke is too many.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 02:29 PM (zZbCU)

10 I knew it.

That sonofabitch Trump personally started this CoronaVirus Pandemic JUST TO RACISTLY SHUT DOWN THE MESKIN BORDER!

Impeach!!!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:29 PM (i4CI5)

11 8 Funny, I must have seen like 5 stories over on /r/politics about how Mexico is now clamoring that the US be stricter about the border because they don't want our sick people and the geniuses over on Reddit think that's so clever.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (h+Dtu)

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I bet they'd be horrified at how okay we are with that move.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 02:29 PM (zZbCU)

12 USA is asshoe!

Posted by: The Dems at April 03, 2020 02:30 PM (dBiBP)

13 Deport all illegals that carry reusable plastic bags now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at April 03, 2020 02:30 PM (qM84C)

14 >>They offered us instead a "high tech virtual fence.

Always thought we should give them all "virtual" Secret Service and Capital police protection and see how they liked it. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:30 PM (bDqIh)

15 Left undiscussed is the reason we haven't been doing this for years, no, decades.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 03, 2020 02:30 PM (cqteU)

16 An agent said the hastened process diminishes the risk of exposure to everyone involved.

"The goal is to minimize the exposure to the alien, agent and our country," a CBP official told WaPo.

Re-set the trebuchet. Fire!
Re-set the trebuchet. Fire!
Re-set the trebuchet. Fire!
Re-set the trebuchet. Fire!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (Oqufv)

17 JUST GOT THE EMAIL

Colorado schools closed for remainder of the school year

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (iTXRQ)

18 What embarrassed me is now seeing how stupid they are, I fell for their Bullshit for so many years.

Posted by: tbodie at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (jhgxs)

19 buh-bye.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (Vy7tf)

20
Order your Asshoe and Pubic Comb Starter Set today and pay no shipping charge!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (pNxlR)

21 Example #2,345,432 as to why I love this President.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at April 03, 2020 02:32 PM (pmRSz)

22 Globalism Kills.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 03, 2020 02:32 PM (oVJmc)

23 Friend was SDPD for 30 years (San Diego city limits actually extend to the border in some areas). Back when he had a beat down there, he said they'd occasionally come across illegals - who drew attention to themselves for other, conventional reasons - and when determined they were Mexicans (back then, it was only Mexicans, unlike now), would take them down to the port of entry, where Border Patrol would briefly chat with them to make sure they weren't in the US on a visa or work permit - and then, vamoose, south across the pedestrian bridge you go.

Different world, very, on both sides of the border, of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 02:32 PM (El6T/)

24 I was hoping they would be honest and name their webzine "Gaslight"

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 02:32 PM (Hcsoi)

25 Thanks to Trump's Emergency Order to Seal the Border, Illegal Border
Crossers Are Being Deported Back to Mexico in an Average of 96 Minutes
from Apprehension

It only takes 5 minutes to re-cock a trebuchet.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (pyXq5)

26 JUST GOT THE EMAIL

Colorado schools closed for remainder of the school year
Posted by: DB- just DB

Closed as in "everybody go home?" Or closed as in "the buildings are closed, but we will teleschool."?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (Oqufv)

27 I just love this headline. Love it.

Posted by: bluebell at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (/669Q)

28 Always thought we should give them all "virtual" Secret Service and Capital police protection and see how they liked it. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:30 PM (bDqIh)

Great idea!

Posted by: tbodie at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (jhgxs)

29 25 Thanks to Trump's Emergency Order to Seal the Border, Illegal Border
Crossers Are Being Deported Back to Mexico in an Average of 96 Minutes
from Apprehension

It only takes 5 minutes to re-cock a trebuchet.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (pyXq5)

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Until you get the union involved.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (zZbCU)

30 >>> 17 JUST GOT THE EMAIL

Colorado schools closed for remainder of the school year
Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (iTXRQ)

Great. What else if ftard going to extend?

I think we need a wall around Denver (after we extract any Morons).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (0ReGO)

31 Willowed from the last thread: I think Lindsay Graham is being a retarded asshoe by giving China a chance to pretend to be reasonable after such practices have done trillions of dollars worth of damage to the economy here.

We've got to recognize this as warfare by other means and respond appropriately. What it is, I don't know, but it is going to have to involve us learning to take care of ourselves, and less finger wagging by some asshoe pretending to care.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, No Adjetives Today at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (dwojT)

32 One wall to dissuade them all,
one wall to stop them,
One wall to keep them all
and in their shithole country bind them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 03, 2020 02:33 PM (Z+IKu)

33 17 JUST GOT THE EMAIL

Colorado schools closed for remainder of the school year
Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 02:31 PM (iTXRQ)

It's just a matter of time. All of them will be. All the kids in all the grades are going to get a participation trophy for this school year.

It's not the most terrible of things.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2020 02:34 PM (ZfRYq)

34 When Billy Krystal wakes up from his latest bender and waddles over to his computer, he is not going to be happy about this.
How ungrateful we peasants truly must be to ignore his very deep and very enlightened thoughts.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at April 03, 2020 02:34 PM (pmRSz)

35 did ace like the movie?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 02:34 PM (G546f)

36 so the reaction to this plague not quite meeting any of the projections even remotely is to ... double down and close the schools for the rest of the year?!?!

doesn't that seem fishy

it's like a fait accompli on ruining us

they're doing it ASAP before the sheeple wise up!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (j9HX3)

37 Since that announcement, Department of Homeland Security leaders have reported a roughly 50% decline in illegal border crossings. Wolf and Mark Morgan, the acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, have publicly confirmed the dramatic fall in illegal crossings in March.
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Huh. So those "refugees" from unspeakable evil and inhumane treatment who required "sanctuary" in the US as the *only* option have had their numbers diminish by *half* in the past month?

The hell you say. Anyone whose conditions are as bad as were told would chance it. Indeed, with the pandemic, the desperation should be greater than ever, leading to increased risk-taking and a surge of cross-border "refugee" traffic.

They couldn't possibly have been lying about the nature of the migrant flow, could they? Nah.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (Q8c/L)

38 And isn't it so very predictable that during this pandemic, organizations like the ACLU decide their to priority is. . . protecting illegal aliens.

Of all the civil liberties concerns in this CF of a nationwide "shelter-in-place" they chose not us.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (bDqIh)

39 All the kids in all the grades are going to get a participation trophy for this school year.

It's not the most terrible of things.

Posted by: blaster

--

The kids probably will learn more at home than at school.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (Hcsoi)

40 "rejected their generous offer to continue being our "thought leaders."

You misspelled "benevolent despots".

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (VpIIl)

41 Wait a minute... so an all-out, no-shit, "shutdown the border" order only cuts border jumping in half?

Fuck it. We need a wall.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (17n5k)

42 Note, while our own population is being put out of work by government fiat,

The same government is INCREASING both guest worker and H1B program numbers.

Yes, they did it in the last couple of weeks.

I just don't get it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

43 JUST GOT THE EMAIL

Colorado schools closed for remainder of the school year

What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (S4XGD)

44 My fish wrap, after announcing they wanted to print positive stories, featured Tom Nichols today, ranting about PDT's daily COVID-19 pressers.

A couple of weeks ago they printed a column by Leonard Pitts, claiming that Trump is the grand wizard of the GOP KKK.

So much positivity.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (ptqGC)

45 >>UST GOT THE EMAIL

Colorado schools closed for remainder of the school year

I see this, as with other states making this choice, as the ultimate teachers union power flex.
There is no other reason to not even try.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (bDqIh)

46 *They offered us instead a "high tech virtual fence.*

They offered us shit that didn't work and could be turned off with a flip of the switch.

At the time, I was working for a company that had a contract to build part of the "Border Security System." It was absolutely useless.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (17n5k)

47 these same assholes want us to keep trading with China. I'd trade them all for a fat tariff.

we should cut income taxes and hike tariffs bigly to make the Chinese pay for rebuilding our industrial base.

Posted by: x at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (nFwvY)

48

Nice screed.

No one says it better.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (8fB/R)

49 >>> 39 All the kids in all the grades are going to get a participation trophy for this school year.

It's not the most terrible of things.

Posted by: blaster
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The kids probably will learn more at home than at school.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 02:35 PM (Hcsoi)

Seriously. Kids will probably learn more, eat better and have healthier immune systems from playing in backyards.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (0ReGO)

50 In honor of the Egg Flu Lung, Joe Bob Briggs reviews the Masque of the Red Death:

https://tinyurl.com/Joe-BB-Masque-R-D

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (i4CI5)

51 My fish wrap, after announcing they wanted to print positive stories, featured Tom Nichols today, ranting about PDT's daily COVID-19 pressers.

A couple of weeks ago they printed a column by Leonard Pitts, claiming that Trump is the grand wizard of the GOP KKK.

So much positivity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (ptqGC)
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Well, they are very positive in their hate, which is nice.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (WEBkv)

52 A government that can't enforce the borders against foreign nationals has zero moral authority to enforce a quarantine against its own citizens and must be replaced for the citizens' own good.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (LVx0E)

53 What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (S4XGD)

Our public school system is offering the kiddies free meals dropped off via school buses. Don't want the parental units to have to actually drive to the schools to pick up the free meals.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (ptqGC)

54 *What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?*

Those programs go on.

Tells you everything.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (17n5k)

55 I just received "travel papers" from my priest so I can go to Eucharistic Adoration without being detained by the police. Incredible.

Posted by: bluebell at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (/669Q)

56 What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (S4XGD)

National Guard will drop it off.

You think I am being snarky.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (ZfRYq)

57 >>>31 Willowed from the last thread: I think Lindsay Graham is being a retarded asshoe by giving China a chance to pretend to be reasonable after such practices have done trillions of dollars worth of damage to the economy here.

I should have said: The fact that Lindsey Graham is saying this on Fox and Friends is all the proof you need that he will do absolutely nothing about it.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (PbpT7)

58 >Closed as in "everybody go home?" Or closed as in "the buildings are closed, but we will teleschool."?
Posted by: rickb223

yes- 'remote learning' they call it
otherwise, employees not directly involved stay home
that means me
SO I have no job to go to from March 13 until mid-August
whether I am to be paid for the unanticipated time off remains to be seen

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (iTXRQ)

59 Would a single one of these unamerican traitors have closed the border to Mexico, even during a major pandemic?

NO. They would have offered us further "high tech virtual fences" and "sophisticated online monitoring of border area hot spots for epidemics."
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They would have let them come in for free medical care and other assorted goodies.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (HgNWD)

60

What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?

Our schools are doing curb service.

Seriously.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (oVJmc)

61 *stands and cheers*

America is being put through the wringer and years of hard work have been destroyed in the space of a month because the bill is coming due on the globablists and all the problems they hand waved away.

You know what I want?

Some fucking humility.

I'm sitting here having nigh to a full on mental meltdown wondering if everything I've thought and believed politically is wrong because, when push has come to shove, what people want are checks and for Daddy Government to save them. And I'm no one.

Our Betters? Our Thought Leaders? They've been WRONG about everything for decades. Decades upon decades.

And now those errors are being paid for with actual human lives besides those of our military men and women. Now those errors are being paid for with the money and the destruction of businesses that people have poured their lives and life savings into. Now those errors are leading us down the primrose path of acceptance of authoritarian actions and universal basic income.

And will any single solitary one of those who have smirked about how the world is flat and we are all one world spend a millisecond pondering that they were wrong?

Will they apologize?

Will they reevaluate their premises and views?

Will they display anything approaching humility upon reality destroying their theories?

Of course not.

They'll just wonder why I can't code and do my job from home.

A pox on all of them.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (GbPPJ)

62 My fish wrap, after announcing they wanted to print positive stories, featured Tom Nichols today, ranting about PDT's daily COVID-19 pressers.
...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (ptqGC)
++++++++++++
Would it be unkind to the press to gently remind them that *they* are the ones who demanded a daily presidential briefing? That he had handed the daily update off to his group leader Pence, but that they themselves demanded answers directly from the horse's mouth?

Because I think that they need to be reminded that they are now reaping what they themselves have sown. And if they don't like it, well tough for them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (Q8c/L)

63 A couple of weeks ago they printed a column by Leonard Pitts, claiming that Trump is the grand wizard of the GOP KKK.

So much positivity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (ptqGC)

Leonard Pitts is ASSHOE!

Always has been...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (NWiLs)

64 There's an article over at the Federalist about how Millions are Going to Die in Mexico, because no one is doing anything about the Corona Virus there.

So, question: What if Mexico never does anything at all to prepare for the virus, and nothing much ever happens? Oh, people will get sick, and some people will die, but people die every day in Mexico, and it probably won't look any different than normal.

What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)

65 Don't want the parental units to have to actually drive to the schools to pick up the free meals.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

--

Said parental units couldn't be bothered. They wouldn't come over for free food for their kids.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (Hcsoi)

66 Think about all the stupid positions Republicans have taken to try and win over the base, and just enforcing a border would have done it AND have been popular with general election voters.

It's just so common sense, yet instead we had Republicans taking strident positions on abortion, tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, privatizing social security and medicare, etc.

I'm not necessarily against these positions, but what a stupid path to power to go after that nonsense instead of just NOT letting a million people a year walk over here.

Posted by: Blago at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (sjTfF)

67 Back the fuck up a minute - I was told that closing the border was technically impossible, completely illegal, and utterly immoral. That we had to just lie back and accept illegal immigration in unlimited quantities, that nothing could possibly be done.

It's almost like a lot of people were lying the last 30 years...

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (+DS2f)

68 54 *What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?*

Those programs go on.

Tells you everything.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (17n5k)

If you have to have your children fed breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food, your kids should be taken into care, i.e., away from you.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (FXaFS)

69 You been here 96 minutes.

You go now!

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (ZLI7S)

70 *What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?*

==

just effing instacart or uber eats the food to the feral kids ffs

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (G546f)

71 64 There's an article over at the Federalist about how Millions are Going to Die in Mexico, because no one is doing anything about the Corona Virus there.

So, question: What if Mexico never does anything at all to prepare for the virus, and nothing much ever happens? Oh, people will get sick, and some people will die, but people die every day in Mexico, and it probably won't look any different than normal.

What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)
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Them and Sweden.

I want to see their numbers be no worse than ours.

It won't pay anything back, but it'll help this from happening again in the fall.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (zZbCU)

72 Spot on, Alex

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 02:39 PM (Hcsoi)

73 faster please

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (Wm5SB)

74 64 There's an article over at the Federalist about how Millions are Going to Die in Mexico, because no one is doing anything about the Corona Virus there.

Why should I give a flying fuck what happens to that third-world failed narco-state?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

75 Trump has been prescient from day 1 about the actual threats to this country; illegal immigration and China. Of course, no where does the MSM acknowledge that.

Posted by: IanDeal at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (vgGyZ)

76 We demanded a border in 2012.

Again, they ignored us, and in the official 2012 RNC "post-mortem," the same corporatists and open borders libertarians that dominate the Cash Money Wing of the Republican Party demanded that we embrace amnesty and open borders.

As if having Mutt Rombley as the candidate wasn't bad enough, the GOP had a retreat (how appropriate) on the Eastern Shore where they came up with MOAR AMNESTY. I wanted to hang them all.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (y7DUB)

77 >>>
What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?

Our schools are doing curb service.

Seriously.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Our school district is as well.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (NMkO+)

78 Conservatism Inc. is asshoe!

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (lY4np)

79 What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)

OTOH, what if Mexico ignores the virus, and Mexican Spanish becomes a dead language?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (FXaFS)

80 So how is this affecting the drug trade, I wonder.

Seems one benefit may be making it harder for the cartels to blend in, thus the recent DoJ update on cartel arrests, etc..

That is a win-win!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (bDqIh)

81 Seriously. Kids will probably learn more, eat better and have healthier immune systems from playing in backyards.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (0ReGO)
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Very true. One of the benefits of homeschooling that I never even thought about was that my kids very very rarely ever got sick. They always got plenty of sleep and we went outdoors a lot.

Posted by: bluebell at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (/669Q)

82 >What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?
Posted by: Grump928(C)

the email did not mention the food programs, just the extended suspension of 'in-person learning' for remainder of school year

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (iTXRQ)

83 A couple of weeks ago they printed a column by Leonard Pitts, claiming that Trump is the grand wizard of the GOP KKK.
So much positivity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:36 PM (ptqGC)
Leonard Pitts is ASSHOE!
Always has been...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (NWiLs)

Yup....years ago I used to see his column in some crappy newspaper.

The only thing he wrote about, week after week, was how the big bad raycisses was being rayciss.

The pot and kettle comes to mind.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (Z+IKu)

84 You know what I want?

Some fucking humility.
...
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (GbPPJ)
++++++++++++
:: applause ::
Well done. The whole thing was good. But yes. Some fucking humility is literally the *least* these bastards could show. But they won't.

Unfounded arrogance means never having to say you're sorry.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (Q8c/L)

85 "Things don't change in Washington not because they can't change, but because no one wants it to change." Carly Fiorinna

There are still and endless line of suckers buying into this crap, unfortunately.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (+DS2f)

86 Teachers in my family are in private schools. Their kids have not missed a day. While the day has been relatively shortened, they still have classes with video and some very cool online stuff using Google Classroom and other tools. The kids have been very engaged. They like the technology and good teachers are being creative in using it. Attendance is near 100% and any kid who doesn't attend and participate gets a free email or text to mom and dad. Overall it's worked well. It's especially important for middle school upper grades because the private high schools are very competitive.

The local public school, which is btw one of the top in the state? Two weeks went by with nothing but free meals 7 days a week. They just got started on some "optional" online stuff. But more to come, because you know these poor public school teachers are very stressed and over worked. lol.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (VpIIl)

87 I be grandulating fron High Schrool in Dinver this yeer and has an scholorship to goes to colerage this Fall. I be majoring in Gay Animal husbandry at $20,000 a yeer on a studerent loan ats 15% interest.... Whats could be goes wrong for my futere ??

Posted by: James at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (qM84C)

88 78 Conservatism Inc. is asshoe!
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (lY4np)

There is a time to border, and a time to toss over the border.

Posted by: Caliban at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (QE8X6)

89 They'll just wonder why I can't code and do my job from home.

A pox on all of them.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (GbPPJ)
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You know what has really surprised me about all this?

How many people have been revealed to be two bit grifters relying on our continued gullibility.

I knew there were a number of them, I just didn't realize how many there actually were.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (WEBkv)

90 Tim Carney used to write a lot about crony capitalism at the Washington Examiner. It was his specialty. One day I sent him a tweet with a link to an article. Told him it was a great example of crony capitalism and would be great for him to do a column on. It was about AEG, the huge company that owns sports teams, venues, does concert promotion, etc. Don't remember the exact story, but it involved some kind of rent seeking. AEG is owned by Philip Anschutz, who also owns the Washington Examiner. Carney replied to me with "LOL".

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (xPl2J)

91 eh, the Mexican drug lords will figure something out
they run the place anyway

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (G546f)

92 And ace, "we" unfortunately includes a super-majority even in "blue" border areas, who then/now, when asked correctly tend to support sane, common sense border and illegal migration policies.

The voters tolerated the GOP's dishonesty for many years, and other voters just didn't care *enough* about this to nudge or rein in *their* political figures.

Look at the Dem statements on illegal migration up to the late 90s, even during the first year or two of Dubya. Many of you have probably seen the video of Clinton, Schumer, et al, giving statements that would be denounced as truculent racist incitement by today's cretinized "press".

The bulk of the electorate, GOP and Dem, allowed this to happen, by not rejecting it.

Any AZ morons please chime in to update/correct, but look at AZ. Governor - who seems more than anything like a standard issue CoC-oriented pretty boy GOP seat warmer who burbles all the right sounds - initially at least sided with a panel that was going to grant tuition aid to illegals (kind of a "dreamer"-like move).

*After* the state's voters had overwhelmingly passed an initiative banning specifically this kind of move. I think the idiots were forced to back down after an outcry.

The boldness of the no-borders/no sane immigration policy elements is directly proportional to the limpness of the electorate.

Oh - and while Trump is president *because* of his sane rhetoric on illegal mass migration, the *legal* immigration disaster is completely unaddressed, to this day. Getting worse, actually. H-1B, H-2B, various other scams involving students, no change in the trend lines under Trump.

Kushner was very impressive yesterday at the briefing. Including the way he worked a substantive/political point into his remarks - i.e. that voters should be assessing state/local elected officals by their performance in this emergency - but he should not be within 3 light years of anything to do with legal immigration. He is, effectively, the undaunted tip of the spear for the corporate/CoC elements who still, apparently, would gladly dump every American on their payroll to save $12.38.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (El6T/)

93 "Who is your real boss". Can be a new show. An expose if you will.

Posted by: runner at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (zr5Kq)

94 Said parental units couldn't be bothered. They wouldn't come over for free food for their kids.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada

--

Further to that. Local church collects items and cash to buy items for 'school lunches for underprivileged". They brought up the donations to the school, and nobody showed, so they had to go back and find additional volunteers to drive to the kids houses to hand over free food. The parents are nothing more than sperm and egg donors.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (Hcsoi)

95 One wall to dissuade them all,
one wall to stop them,
One wall to keep them all
and in their shithole country bind them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Excellent.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (i4CI5)

96 You ever wondered why Republicans insisted "We can ONLY do border security if we ALSO do amnesty."

Nobody ever challenged them on why these things had to be coupled together. There's no logical reason they have to be done simultaneously except that the *promise* of border security was intended to fool us long enough to get the *guarantee* of amnesty.

Remember the GWB amnesty plan? "We'll guarantee every illegal immigrant a z-visa to start them on their path to citizenship. And we promise to put up a fence or something in a few years maybe."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (17n5k)

97 I read something from The Hill about how people just love the job their governors are doing and how Trump's popularity is in the 40s. I just get tired of it.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (JKNZq)

98

Looks like we here at the ol' HQ were first to cast skepticism on the fish tank lady. We did it immediately because we know bullshit like the back of our paws.

We smelled a Rat the instant we heard the story.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (yDBK2)

99

Funny I can only see that shiteating smirk of John McCain, knowing he was totally full of shit going on about the border.

And here we are. But hey MUH PATRIOTISM MUH MERICAN HERO MUH WAR HERO

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (lg/F7)

100 We need open borders. Unemployment is still below 30%

Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (aKsyK)

101 To be clear I loved Trump and I expected him to govern conservatively.

Why? Not because I'm psychic.

Because for 18 months he was saying all the things we were saying. He did so unabashedly. He tore down the Bushes, who had betrayed us. He went after many a supposed sacred cow.

He *informed* the wider populace of things that we only complained to each other about in our little cone of silence jerkoff circles, both in real life and on the internet. About important things. About abortion. About our illegal immigration problem. About our jihadist problem. About our RINO problem. About our Democrat problem.

What prominent Republican, in office or running for office, *ever* went after John Roberts after he burned conservatives so fucking severely? None. Not one. I'm sorry maybe there was one but it is lost on me if they did. But Trump did. He called Roberts' appointment a "mistake". And why was he the first one to do so?

Because he was "sucking up" to us???? Because he wanted to "own the libs"? Because he read it in National Review? Because Steve Bannon told him to? Because of his big giant crazy ego?

My fucking ass!!! He said it because it was the *truth*.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (T+/KY)

102 The drug trade is having issues because the chemicals for fentanyl come from China.

Schools here are doing curbside pick up for meals as well. This is both because how dare the parents have to feed their own kids and to keep the cafeteria workers working.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (GbPPJ)

103 OTOH, what if Mexico ignores the virus, and Mexican Spanish becomes a dead language?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

no more "jo" instead of "yo"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (G546f)

104 I be grandulating fron High Schrool in Dinver this yeer and has an scholorship to goes to colerage this Fall. I be majoring in Gay Animal husbandry at $20,000 a yeer on a studerent loan ats 15% interest.... Whats could be goes wrong for my futere ??
Posted by: James at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (qM84C)
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Obviously, you received poor advice for a career path. I suggest you change to "Gender Studies" with a minor in "Performance Art Knitting."

Posted by: College Counselor at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (WEBkv)

105 Our school district is as well.
Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM

And ours, once a week. I helped with packing the twice-a-week breakfast/lunch last month. Then parents got on social media complaining that our district menu wasn't as good as neighboring districts and church kitchens.

Almost don't care now.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (/+bwe)

106 What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?

Posted by: Tom Servo

It'll just be a normal flu season, just like this one was in the US until the MSM stampeded everyone.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (i4CI5)

107 What about the free breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food kids?

Our schools are doing curb service.

Seriously.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Adds a new dimension to the term "drive-by."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (FXaFS)

108

This virus also stops the flow of all of the diseases coming through the southern border.

Stops illegals.
Stops diseases.
Stops anchor babies.
Stops drugs to some extent.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (8fB/R)

109
Looks like we here at the ol' HQ were first to cast skepticism on the fish tank lady.

Is there a development in the story?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (oVJmc)

110 Now, this is a policy i want to see kept!!!

Posted by: RobertM at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (lEqw+)

111 "Things don't change in Washington not because they can't change, but because no one wants it to change." Carly Fiorinna

And she thinks that's a good thing.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (17n5k)

112 Ace - excellent and I would love this post to be plastered everywhere.

Posted by: Cheri at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (IB1Pj)

113 sorry did not mean to threadjack, but this is breaking news for me, and I thought I would share

it's going to be fvcked up

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (iTXRQ)

114
I just want to say fuckyou to lindsey graham. His fake concern over wet markets in china is fake. Assho Graham, "US-china trade relations" are OVER.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (yDBK2)

115 I'm all for the dreamers getting citizenship...AFTER we make sure there are no more dreamers ever entering the system.

There is my compromise.

One thing I always noticed - the compromise was always progressives get what they want NOW, and I'll get what I want LATER. Well LATER is now NOW assholes, and progressives can start getting what they want LATER for a change, much much LATER.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (+DS2f)

116 >>So how is this affecting the drug trade, I wonder.

>>Seems one benefit may be making it harder for the cartels to blend in, thus the recent DoJ update on cartel arrests, etc..

>>That is a win-win!

I think there's a lot more going on with all of this than just the cartels. I think this is also about Project Casandra, Iran and Hezbollah.

Iran is in much worse shape than they are letting on. The actual number of dead according to dissents who have been reporting on the numbers are closer to 16,000 dead not 3,000 and their healthcare system is overwhelmed.

And because the mullahs stole all the medicine and humanitarian aid the are desperate for money.

This whole DOJ/DEA/DOD response to Venezuela and drug smuggling didn't just spring up in the middle of this coincidentally.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)

117 >>> The local public school, which is btw one of the top in the state? Two weeks went by with nothing but free meals 7 days a week. They just got started on some "optional" online stuff. But more to come, because you know these poor public school teachers are very stressed and over worked. lol.
Posted by: Marcus

Three HS in our town. Private one has gone to online. Feasible because that school issues every student a laptop.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (NMkO+)

118 Their kids have not missed a day. While the day has been relatively shortened, they still have classes with video and some very cool online stuff using Google Classroom and other tools. The kids have been very engaged.

that's been our experience -it's really been working great!

their private school is doing a great job so far

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (j9HX3)

119 Our Beloved Leader does not pee or poo. He has no need of asshoe.

Posted by: America-hating commie tools at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (Vy7tf)

120 I can build a trebuchet which will cut that 96 minutes to about 96 seconds.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (dNzKv)

121 It'll just be a normal flu season, just like this one was in the US until the MSM stampeded everyone.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:44 PM (i4CI5)

Or not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (FXaFS)

122 Home schooling could mean less Left drivel (Gay Rights, Green New Deal, Global Warming, etc...) pouring into our children and they may learn the basics of Reading, Writing, and Rithmatics. Actually become independent of the government programs and become Conservative and self sustaining. The Left could screwing themselves and are to dumb to know it.......

Posted by: James at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (qM84C)

123 China is asshoe

But so are the cucks

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (1FhAQ)

124
Is there a development in the story?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles

No, but others are finally talking about and repeating the same stuff we said over a week ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:47 PM (yDBK2)

125 The Left created this panic. But beware of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

They may crash the gobal economy as pllaned, just to get Trump.

They may accelerate the Surveillance State we've always warned about but which the LEft so crave.

But they also will get things they hadn't planned on:

-- A more secure Border Wall
-- An American public much more skeptical about globalization, off-shoring and China, and instead more in tune with Trump's "America First" philosophy.
-- An economic rebound after the panic whihc will make optimism soar even more.

Posted by: zombie at April 03, 2020 02:47 PM (N9G0H)

126 120 I can build a trebuchet which will cut that 96 minutes to about 96 seconds.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (dNzKv)

If you build it, they won't come.

Posted by: Caliban at April 03, 2020 02:47 PM (QE8X6)

127 97 I read something from The Hill about how people just love the job their governors are doing and how Trump's popularity is in the 40s. I just get tired of it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (JKNZq)

You know what would be neat?

It would be really fun if there was a way to poll people *before they hear the media spin about things* on what they think Trump should do on a given issue, and then compare it to what those same people think after hearing the media talking points and what Trump actually does.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 03, 2020 02:47 PM (h+Dtu)

128 They just found another border tunnel, found 4400 lbs of drugs on our side. They build hem as fast as we find them

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 03, 2020 02:47 PM (8JqLB)

129 I had a video conference with my primary regulatory lawyer today. A real polished, well dressed, kick ass person. I recoiled in fright when I saw them. It looked like a homeless person in pajamas. They have not slept in about three days. I swear if this goes on much longer it won't be the virus killing people.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (VpIIl)

130 >>If you have to have your children fed breakfast, lunch, dinner, and weekend food, your kids should be taken into care, i.e., away from you.

Agreed.

Seems to me that that this free meal stuff started in schools. At some point (was it Obama, or earlier?) that federal funds were linked to free lunch program participation numbers, encouraging schools to get every kid signed up for it so that they could get more federal spending. Then they started offering free breakfast, again encouraging everyone to participate (no idea if this resulted in more federal funds).

Then once this dependency was normalized, the schools started whining that these precious children needed dinner, and backpacks full of food sent home with them on Fridays.

I am not excusing parents who can't get off their butts to feed their kids, but this didn't start with parent demand. It is a seriously messed up mentality that originated in schools and/or by DC bureaucrats.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (bDqIh)

131 79 What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)

OTOH, what if Mexico ignores the virus, and Mexican Spanish becomes a dead language?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (FXaFS)

IF that happens, then the lessen will be that obviously we were correct to shut everything down. Hence my question - what will it mean if the opposite happens?

What if it turns out that Mexico was right, and we were wrong? Who can guarantee that it won't?

and another question:

Why should I give a flying fuck what happens to that third-world failed narco-state?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

Because it's the only way in which we can objectively test
whether we've done the right thing, or made a huge mistake. To be clear, I am NOT predicting which way this will go. But I am watching the situation intently, because the outcome will tell all of us a lot about ourselves.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (V2Yro)

132 While we have a great lull down here, the wall is being erected with alacrity. Its a beautiful thing.

The valley I live in had a massive reduction in crossings when an older version of the wall was put in. Then the sheriff installed cameras in the high volume drug smuggling areas, and made sure the smugglers got prosecuted when they got caught with drugs. I have seen maybe a half dozen illegals in as many years.

Wall, towers with thermal cameras and ground surveillance radar looking over the border, CBP drones flying patterns, and boots on the ground. Maybe even the SEIDARM system to detect approaching personnel as well. Tunnels can be detected (we've been doing in for years along the DMZ in Korea). The border can be secure.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with MOAR TP) at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (N3El/)

133 I have tested negative for the ChiCom Lung Terror Death Aids! So 75% I don't have it.... yet. I guess that's something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (dNzKv)

134 I read something from The Hill about how people just love the job their governors are doing and how Trump's popularity is in the 40s. I just get tired of it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 03, 2020 02:43 PM (JKNZq)

They aren't getting any Trump voters back.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (8fB/R)

135 That trebuchet is operating even faster than Pinochet's helicopters, and hopefully, just as permanently. Who'da thought Frank J. Fleming's "Mexicannon" would actually have such a great rate of fire?
Suddenly, the Border Patrol has become a crew-served weapon. I heartily approve.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (lY4np)

136 Posted by: zombie at April 03, 2020 02:47 PM (N9G0H)

And a discrediting of the press and credentialed experts.

Posted by: Caliban at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (QE8X6)

137 This pandemic won't even rise above the noise of all the other problems in Mexico.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (+0AKE)

138 Or not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

My money is on will.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (i4CI5)

139 Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people.

Posted by: freaked at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (Tnijr)

140 OTOH, what if Mexico ignores the virus, and Mexican Spanish becomes a dead language?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (FXaFS)

If we had to colonize Mexico and take their oil in order to keep the place from going Mad Max, this is a much better outcome than the present scenario where the Mexican national is replacing the American citizen in our country.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (LVx0E)

141 When the constitution is kaput and the rule of law is gone nothing restrains us but our own morality.
If there is no law then we are no longer bound. The family business will be settled. We the peasants will march up the hill with our pitch forks and torches. There will be no place they can hide.

Posted by: azalea city at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (WX+x0)

142
We asked the former Republican leadership class, as well as
the operatives and grifters of Conservative, Inc., to close the borders
and take citizenship seriously for thirty years.

They ignored us.

==

while our own population is being put out of work by government fiat,

The same government is INCREASING both guest worker and H1B program numbers.

They still are.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (pyXq5)

143 Cuomo is seizing ventilators and protective gear from private hospitals and companies.

He calls it borrowing and says they can sue him.

Posted by: Wow at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (odrqb)

144 this post calls for some Big Joe Turner.

I believe to my soul you're the Devil and now I know
I believe to my soul you're the Devil and now I know
Well the harder I work, the faster my money goes

(I can't find a version with the original lyrics on yt, but this will do.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhELpSeeipg

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (LWu6U)

145 Neighbors landscaping Mexicans are apparently essential.

Posted by: DaveA at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (FhXTo)

146 Here in Central Mexico we see more and more strandeds from Guatemala and Honduras. Been here almost 17 months and the numbers have grown. I used to watch caravans moving north. No more. I'm thankful because fewer children are among the vagabonds, which means they are safe at home with their families.

Posted by: Joan Of Argghh! at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (fepm3)

147 TJM, their numbers being "no worse" than ours assumes these are identical situations, where everything would turn out the same without interventions.

There's always a lot learned in epidemics, but the hardest part is constructing apples-to-apples comparisons to draw conclusions.

I'd prefer that magically there were a control group here in the US, a moderate-high infection area that took the Swedish approach. Darwinism in action.

Mexico can't really be useful for comparison, in any way - they completely lack the civic capacity for anything like an organized response to this. It'd be like me saying - "nah, I'm not gonna try to beat the record for the Catalina-Palos Verdes ocean swim next week, because I choose not to."

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (El6T/)

148 Thanks to Trump's Emergency Order to Seal the Border, Illegal Border Crossers Are Being Deported Back to Mexico in an Average of 96 Minutes
from Apprehension
Via trebuchet I hope.

Posted by: Archer at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (gmo/4)

149 Dont forget, these kids that are getting "free" meals at school are also getting food stamps.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (dNzKv)

150 Friends don't let friends be globalists.

Posted by: Dangerously Cheezy at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (Ai1hj)

151 the charter school the kids used to go to issued chromebooks to all the kids who needed them I think (previously only HS had them)
they are doing some kinda online lessons, maybe worksheets, from what I hear

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (G546f)

152
Willowed:

The Ugly Indian | TEDxBangalore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1VA5jqmRo

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2020 02:28 PM (FXaFS)

Very cool, a lot of important lessons in there, too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (II2Y0)

153 this is a perfect opportunity for Trump to expand on the "temporary" border closing here in the name of containing the commie virus.

And then keep it closed forever.

You know like how the federal income tax was temporary and only for paying for the war.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Piercing Nipples at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (+dsLj)

154 "their private school is doing a great job so far
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at April 03, 2020 02:46 PM (j9HX3)"

I got to see one class today. The screen looked like the Brady Bunch. They can see exactly what the kid is doing on the computer plus they can see them. Working on something unrelated? Doink. They close out your screen and tell you to get it together. No walking away during assignments and they know this is all for grades. Pretty impressive.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (VpIIl)

155 Eh fuego!

Posted by: That Guy Who Shouts "En fuego!" at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (DMUuz)

156 >>Because it's the only way in which we can objectively test
whether we've done the right thing, or made a huge mistake. To be clear, I am NOT predicting which way this will go. But I am watching the situation intently, because the outcome will tell all of us a lot about ourselves.

Why does it have to be Mexico? What about Italy or Spain? They largely did nothing until they got overwhelmed and look at where they are now.

The hard part about using Mexico's numbers is why would you trust Mexico to report accurate numbers? They don't have accurate numbers on cartel deaths or just about anything else.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

157 Neighbors landscaping Mexicans are apparently essential.

Posted by: DaveA at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (FhXTo)

And so are their leaf blowers.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (xPl2J)

158 Here in Central Mexico we see more and more strandeds from Guatemala and Honduras. Been here almost 17 months and the numbers have grown. I used to watch caravans moving north. No more. I'm thankful because fewer children are among the vagabonds, which means they are safe at home with their families.
Posted by: Joan Of Argghh! at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (fepm3)

central Mexico ?

Posted by: runner at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (zr5Kq)

159 Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people.
Posted by: freaked at April 03, 2020 02:49 PM (Tnijr)

Like Hell we can't.

Phrases like they amount to "you wouldn't dare".

I dare.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (qcr5D)

160 Cuomo is seizing ventilators and protective gear from private hospitals and companies.

He calls it borrowing and says they can sue him.

Posted by: Wow

I guess he really should have purchased those 16,000 ventilators he had a chance to buy back in 2015.

I hope he gets sued and that gets brought up a couple million times by expensive lawyers.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (i4CI5)

161 You bet the people of NY are just loving the Governor and Mayor of NYC . What a bunch of Cow Dung...That is why when this is over people we be leaving NY in droves...........

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (qM84C)

162 Moat. Wall. Razor wire. Land mines. Sniper towers.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (ZfRYq)

163 Trump frightens a lot of people for one reason - he has no fucks to give. He's in his 60s, rich, famous, has a hot wife, and a family that loves him. There is nothing they can offer him that he wants or needs. he doesn't need some cushy job after his term is over. Doesn't need $50,000 speaking fees. Doesn't care about honors and awards. Doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks about him. How can they manipulate him?

That is what terrifies them more than anything. They call him a tyrant and a dictator for good reason - he can do whatever he wants without their approval. That is the dictatorship they fear and loathe.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (+DS2f)

164 I am not excusing parents who can't get off their butts to feed their kids, but this didn't start with parent demand. It is a seriously messed up mentality that originated in schools and/or by DC bureaucrats.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (bDqIh)

I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (GbPPJ)

165 155 Eh fuego!
Posted by: That Guy Who Shouts "En fuego!"

Meh. Fuego.

Posted by: that guy who is really unimpressed by things being on fire. at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (N9G0H)

166 You know another good thing to come out of the pandemic situation is we no longer have to listen to multi-millionaire NFL athletes complain about how woe-is-me regarding their negotiations for the new CBA.

On the flip side, now these same multi-millionaire players are on social media playing video games "for charity" for COVID-19.

So we have multi-millionaire players sitting on their asses playing video games and asking for money from people who are at home, because they're unemployed.

Remember when these same multi-millionaire players were whining, because they were oppressed and felt like slaves in the NFL? Good times...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (Do5/p)

167 I know it's impolite to speak ill of the man while his funeral isn't even over, but John McCain swore he would "build the dang wall."

And a man of such honor and John McCain would never have lied.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (vPKfA)

168 I used to watch caravans moving north. No more. I'm thankful because fewer children are among the vagabonds, which means they are safe at home with their families.
Posted by: Joan Of Argghh! at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (fepm3)

I was always certain that Soros and his minions were financing those caravans.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (V2Yro)

169 163 Inspector ....amen!

Posted by: Cheri at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (IB1Pj)

170 "The Ugly Indian"

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (DMUuz)

171 FYI, Trump is in his 70s.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (JKNZq)

172 the charter school the kids used to go to issued chromebooks to all the kids who needed them I think (previously only HS had them)
they are doing some kinda online lessons, maybe worksheets, from what I hear
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 02:50 PM (G546f)
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Our district is doing the same. But, guess who is one of the people fielding the calls when they have trouble with their Chromebook?

On the other hand, people who are responsible enough to call in, because they need tech support so they can take care of school, work tend to be of a bit higher quality.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 03, 2020 02:53 PM (WEBkv)

173 I get it. But we don't need no wall.

When elected in 2020, I will send the Army down there to the border and have General Pershing take some doughboys and round up that there fella Poncho Asshoe.

Tipper Canoe and Poncho too!

Here, rub my small feet.

Posted by: Joe Biden, all but forgotten about at April 03, 2020 02:53 PM (Z+IKu)

174 Solution to our problems is "IMPEACH TRUMP AGAIN"? That will solve all are problems Pelosi you scum sucking leech..............

Posted by: James at April 03, 2020 02:53 PM (qM84C)

175 Good because meanwhile in tropical Ecuador shit is extremely dire.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=idbisJsl1sI&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 02:53 PM (MRjKr)

176
Spanish Flu has been "renamed" to "the 1918 Flu."

"Experts" on tv clumsily meander referring to the Spanish Flu, these days, by inaccurately calling it "the 1918 Flu."

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:53 PM (yDBK2)

177 I'm sure illegal crossings are down somewhat based on the reporting that the USA is one or two days away from being a wasteland of dead bodies with up wiped asses.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (YT5Rb)

178 With all the schools closed how many tax funded teachers do you expect will be laid off?

My guess is anywhere between zero and lolz.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Piercing Nipples at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (+dsLj)

179 564 Cuomo signed and Ex Order for the Nat Guard to seize "unused" ventilators and PP gear from upstate hospitals and take them to NYC.

The locals are pointing out that they have zero chance of getting the equipment back if they need them next week or whenever.

THis is hilarious - it is apparent from the tweets and briefings that he and PDT are battling over this stuff. Trump wants to hold it back until they have demand, but Cuomo says that you can't ship the day before, but need to have it ready long before needed. They each seem to mention this every day indirectly without being specific.

So now Cuomo is telling upstate to "drop dead" and they will get it back when they need it.

Maybe Cuomo is asshoe too.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (LWu6U)

180 Our district is doing the same. But, guess who is one of the people
fielding the calls when they have trouble with their Chromebook?

On the other hand, people who are responsible enough to call in,
because they need tech support so they can take care of school, work
tend to be of a bit higher quality.
our district is leaving the tech support to the teachers, it's ridiculous

Posted by: brak at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (cG+eD)

181 Mexico is a textbook example of a failed state. Actually, it was better off when the Aztecs were running it. It's NEVER been a functioning state. Mexico isn't a has-been, it's a never was.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (o2MD2)

182 "That trebuchet is operating even faster than Pinochet's helicopters"

"Pinochet's trebuchet" would be a good nick...

Posted by: Chris M at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (eAZVt)

183
And so are their leaf blowers.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (xPl2J)

Shouldn't leaf blowers be required to have mask on in public.

Posted by: Zombie John Paul Jones at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (PtOP4)

184 Cat Ass, congrats. What's the action report in your AO?

Hi Desert, great to hear. I know of similar changes in other sectors west of you.

Catty and pointless to note, but right here for several years I marveled at commenters beclowning themselves about how border barriers wouldn't work/weren't worth it/were inferior to all the other Rube Goldberg 1,203-dimensional fancy enforcement schemes anybody could imagine. WTF? And if I hit your big toe with a 10-lb sledge, it won't hurt. That level of idiocy.

Joan of Arrrghh, please report in when you can. Ground truth on anything, including pandemic newz, from MX very welcome here.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (El6T/)

185 The local public school, which is btw one of the top in the state? Two weeks went by with nothing but free meals 7 days a week. They just got started on some "optional" online stuff. But more to come, because you know these poor public school teachers are very stressed and over worked. lol.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 02:41 PM (VpIIl)

My neighbor teaches at a private school; I'm public. She hates teaching online, but the diocese made available college online class material, too. And the children MUST do their work.

I emailed my boss today that the much-touted state virtual school (6-12 subjects) has NOTHING for 7th and 8th grade ELA. So my colleague and I are creating it from scratch... eve though the Dept of Ed says we can't hold any of the children accountable.

Because "equity."

Next time a Department of Education mouthpiece talks about how "we" need to be ready for online learning, I'm going to ask why someone wasn't fired for this oversight.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (/+bwe)

186 I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (GbPPJ)

If a district has more than 40 percent of students receiving a free lunch, the whole district can be considered eligible and they don't have to go through the normal application process for each student.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (SgjGX)

187 >>Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people.

I think you mean **11 million** people, right?

We have been discussing the 11 million illegals in the US for, what, 4 decades now? The number never changes. Amazing, huh? Not only can we not deport them, we can't quantify them, despite them using all sorts of entitlements, getting drivers licenses, filing taxes, etc..
Nope, a total mystery, like a ghost army or something.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (bDqIh)

188 181 Mexico is a textbook example of a failed state. Actually, it was better off when the Aztecs were running it. It's NEVER been a functioning state. Mexico isn't a has-been, it's a never was.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (o2MD2)

==========

Give it back to the French.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (zZbCU)

189 So now Cuomo is telling upstate to "drop dead" and they will get it back when they need it.

Maybe Cuomo is asshoe too.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (LWu6U)
++++++++++++++
NYC views upstate as an appendage hanging off the Real New York. Upstate views the City on virtually identical terms.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (Q8c/L)

190 OTOH, what if Mexico ignores the virus, and Mexican Spanish becomes a dead language?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I know you're being funny but this is another reason why the sudden lefty obsession with "cultural appropriation" is so incredibly dense and hateful.

The logical endpoint of ending "cultural appropriation" is that when a people die off, their culture and their contribution to the human race dies with them.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (uEbPt)

191 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (Oqufv)

192 I expect it's going to be awhile until I receive my relief check, what with President Trump signing them all, as my last name starts with an "S".

Posted by: washrivergal at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (VuPN9)

193 I have been in contact with an oncologist in Delhi. India is going to be devastated, they are making no attempts at social distancing and continue to crowd on transportation and markets.
My Cameroonian colleague, whose father is a government official there said people are fleeing the cities to villages that have rudimentary medical services at best. Cases there will never be counted.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (dNzKv)

194
Wiki calls the Spanish Flu the "1918 Flu Epidemic" or the very generic "Deadly Influenza Epidemic."

The Spanish Flu lasted several years in waves.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (yDBK2)

195 H1B program numbers.

Yes, they did it in the last couple of weeks.

I just don't get it.
Did you get screwed out of $? That's IT. That's all IT ever was.

Posted by: DaveA at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (FhXTo)

196 Why does it have to be Mexico? What about Italy or
Spain? They largely did nothing until they got overwhelmed and look at
where they are now.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

You're right, of course. I volunteer my state as the experiment, and yours as the control.

Let's duct-tape my Governor's mouth shut, and then everybody get back to living. Your state can shelter in place until Hell freezes over.

We can reconvene in the Fall and see where everything stands.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (qcr5D)

197 I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (GbPPJ)
++++++++++
I know Chicago public schools did that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (Q8c/L)

198 176
Spanish Flu has been "renamed" to "the 1918 Flu."

"Experts" on tv clumsily meander referring to the Spanish Flu, these days, by inaccurately calling it "the 1918 Flu."
Posted by: Soothsayer

agree and amplify: the 1918 Chinese Flu

Posted by: x at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (nFwvY)

199 central Mexico ?

prolly San Miguel de Allende'

mucho Americanos retire there.

Posted by: DanMan at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (XTiHL)

200 our district is leaving the tech support to the teachers, it's ridiculous
Posted by: brak at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (cG+eD)
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What?

Wow.

Our department has integrated Teams with an 800 number so our IT department can support end users while working from home.

It's what we get paid to do, so, we're doing it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (WEBkv)

201 The goal has always been to kill and replace Americans with non-Americans. The exact same with Europeans with non-Europeans, Funny how this is not taking place anywhere but in Western Countries. Really makes you think.

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (MRjKr)

202 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (Oqufv)
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*May* 20th? Even after other areas open up and start actively pillaging business from Dallas?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (Q8c/L)

203
Cuomo is like that doll that has a string in its back and repeats the same things over and over.

"Ventilators!"
"We need Moar!"

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (yDBK2)

204 Inspector Kemp, well put, and much truthiness, along with a good mouthfeel.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (El6T/)

205 How do we rid the swamp of open borders corruptocrats like Lindsey Graham?

Posted by: Gary Mac at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (6iRZU)

206 >>>64 There's an article over at the Federalist about how Millions are Going to Die in Mexico, because no one is doing anything about the Corona Virus there.

I work for a multinational defense contractor. My site is the red-headed step child of the company as we primarily work on commercial aircraft, not defense. Our Maquiladora (AKA Mexican slave farm) has already announced since last week they would be shut down until May due to the Mexican gov't's orders. Our site in the States is remaining open, albeit with probably only 1/5 our normal employees.

What pisses me off the most about the situation is how sanguine my fellow workin' from home white collar team members are about all of this. Like "OH YES OF COURSE WE ALL SHOULD STAY HOME FOREVER TO SAVE LIVES."

I came up through the ranks from hourly to salary. Got a job at this company in the heat of the great recession and was glad for it. Prior to landing the job I'd been temping, working side gigs for cash etc.

None of these white collar house pets seem to understand that we just crashed our economy into a brick wall and that we might be closer towards the back of the bus but that doesn't eventually mean that our faces are going to get crushed as well. Mostly I've heard jokes about 401ks being 01ks etc. I honestly think until this asshole class feels the burn we will be trapped in our houses. Once it's them being laid off suddenly we'll all be given the Trump-A-Rita cocktail of malaria drugs and z-packs and face masks and being told it's safe to go back to work.

Posted by: nightwitch at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (RhlXD)

207 Of course, I might be a leetle partial to the Mexica.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (o2MD2)

208
It would appear that every flu for as long back as we can measure it has come from China.

So it is time to end trade with China, because if it saves even one life....right?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (WdocV)

209 Spanish Flu has been "renamed" to "the 1918 Flu."
------------

So ageist.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (uEbPt)

210 >>I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.

All I remember is that while my kid was in public school we were bombarded with mail from the school system asking us to sign up. Here's the application form again in case you didn't get the one we mailed you over the summer, or the one the teacher sent home with your kid, or the one we had available at back to school night. Relentless.

Same thing happened when our kid's elementary school piloted the free breakfast program. Please, eat the free food, come in with your kid and you can eat free food, too! We need to prove that there's a need to get in implemented in all schools blah blah blah.

If you have to beg and plead with me to take free stuff there's not a need for it.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (bDqIh)

211 Current TX projection is for peak on May 20.

But models don't work and it's just the flu, people, chill out.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (El6T/)

212 Why does it have to be Mexico? What about Italy or Spain? They largely did nothing until they got overwhelmed and look at where they are now."

Spain and Italy both have much older, more at risk populations than Mexico's, which is quite young. Their numbers might have just been a combination of demographics and too much foreign interaction.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (V2Yro)

213
114
I just want to say fuckyou to lindsey graham. His fake concern over wet markets in china is fake. Assho Graham, "US-china trade relations" are OVER.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:45 PM (yDBK2)

THIS. Have as many wet markets as you'd like, CCP asshoes, you'll shortly be sending next to nothing over here.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (pNxlR)

214 I am not excusing parents who can't get off their butts to feed their kids, but this didn't start with parent demand. It is a seriously messed up mentality that originated in schools and/or by DC bureaucrats.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (bDqIh)

I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 03, 2020 02:52 PM (GbPPJ)

That sounds right because under Gaylord normalizing being a deadbeat was the highest priority.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (y7DUB)

215 Maybe Cuomo is asshoe too.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 02:54 PM (LWu6U)

No maybe about it.

Posted by: RickZ at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (Y8PSl)

216 Why buy ventilators when you can build a bridge with your daddy's name on it-

Posted by: pahound at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (M1DxT)

217 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9wTQsAgktg

OK, this is the original Shake Rattle and Roll.

This is the version before they whitified and cleaned it up. This is a very dirty song about a worn out old THOH - just like the Republican party.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (LWu6U)

218 Excellent post! Indeed, really a full-length essay on the history of this problem, and how President Trump has focused on it.

Posted by: Roland Hirsch at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (oMkPq)

219 I have tested negative for the ChiCom Lung Terror Death Aids! So 75% I don't have it.... yet. I guess that's something.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (dNzKv)
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That's good news. Since you're a doctor, will they do another test because it came back negative? Or does this mean you're cleared to go back to work now?

Posted by: bluebell at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (/669Q)

220 Thanks for this post ace. Too true bruh.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (0wQE6)

221 Well went to the SBA website to do the paycheck guarantee loan/grant thing.

Once we did the math, we decided not to apply. We would only qualify for $6,900 after doing the computations on the SBA website.

The form is pretty simple actually, just two pages, fill it out and take it to your bank to start the process.

We have 5 bartenders, 2 of whom have full time jobs. The other three would make more money going on unemployment with that $600 per week Federal kicker through the end of June.

It's insane, it's almost like they don't care if people go to work and get a paycheck.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (JUOKG)

222 Cuomo would get re-elected anyway. The cesspool city voters care nothing for the outlanders.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (oVJmc)

223 We cuss Barry - Hell, I cuss Barry all the time - but let's give the devil his due.

He had the good sense to look at the H1N1 numbers and say - Fuck it, big country. People die.

Or, he was just too high to notice. Either way, I'll take it.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (qcr5D)

224
209 Spanish Flu has been "renamed" to "the 1918 Flu."
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No, it hasn't. Stalinist effwads.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (pNxlR)

225 DNC: Mr Biden time for your call with President Trump and here are your liberal talking points from Schmumer and Pelosi.

Biden: Which is POTUS again....Schumer or Pelosi ??

DNC: Trump is POTUS

Biden: When was he elected? Last time I check some horse faced bitch named Hillary Clinton was POTUS.

DNC: Never-mind we will get CNN to do it instead and lip sync for you.

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (qM84C)

226 Do projections account for the possibility of a vaccine?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (YT5Rb)

227 >The goal has always been to kill and replace Americans with non-Americans.

I've always believed the idea behind unfettered immigration into the US was about importing new voters who will vote 'correctly'
i.e., for democrats

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (iTXRQ)

228 Funny how this is not taking place anywhere but in Western Countries
***

The point of having nations is to protect the current citizens from "dreamers" and their ilk. If your nation isn't doing that it has no reason to exist.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (WdocV)

229 74 64 There's an article over at the Federalist about how Millions are Going to Die in Mexico, because no one is doing anything about the Corona Virus there.

Why should I give a flying fuck what happens to that third-world failed narco-state?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
_________________

For one thing, because if there is a panic there, the first reaction of much of their population will be to swarm our border so that they can get the "free" first-world medical care and other goodies that they are "entitled" to in the U.S.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (k4dH2)

230 "Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 03, 2020 02:55 PM (/+bwe)"

That's a shame and good luck with building that for the kids. The stuff I saw today was all for middle school. They had used some of the tools for online collaboration in the after school hours, so it was an easy transition to the full "at home" version. Lesson plans were partially adapted, but that where they had to do some of the heavy lifting- figuring out how to take classroom material and getting it online and into the tools.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (VpIIl)

231 >>Spain and Italy both have much older, more at risk populations than Mexico's, which is quite young. Their numbers might have just been a combination of demographics and too much foreign interaction.

And we have much different demographics and travel patterns from Mexico. We are also testing aggressively and I doubt Mexico is.

We'll see how they make out but those kids who came back to Austin and now about 40 of them are positive for the virus went to Mexico on Spring Break.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)

232 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.
Posted by: rickb223

--

Dallas county is run by a democrat, who wants to do as much damage to the citizens as possible.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (Hcsoi)

233 ok rhomboid, want to bet me?

because by May 20 you're gonna have maybe a handful of cases left in Dallas

the vaunted model is a hot mess

it's not gonna happen

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (j9HX3)

234 It's insane, it's almost like they don't care if people go to work and get a paycheck.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (JUOKG)
------------

The Feds may be building in an "it will take a while to get things going again" factor.

Yeah, I know, pull the other one.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (WEBkv)

235 The transformation of the schools into Soviet-style social welfare hubs has always amazed and horrified me. The current-generation parents of school-age kids I know literally can't begin to image why/how it's undesirable.

Pretty stark example of the massive, massive change (for the worse) in mindset and instincts of a yuuuge % of Americans in the last generation or two.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (El6T/)

236 Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people.

Can't if you don't try.

Operation Wetback in '54, sent 1,074,000 home.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (Oqufv)

237 96 minutes! What! That ain't no time to get abboracho and plow my uninsured POS vehicle into a family of four!

Posted by: JoseJuanJose at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (0dmP2)

238 Spanish Flu has been "renamed" to "the 1918 Flu."

"Experts" on tv clumsily meander referring to the Spanish Flu, these days, by inaccurately calling it "the 1918 Flu."
---

We give things names that we all agree on so we know what we're aech talking about when we use that name.

Something to consider anytime some PC trash wants to rename something.

Posted by: Methos at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (kOpft)

239 Heh.

Apparently Trump wrote a letter to Chuck Schumer yesterday, and it is golden in its Snark:

https://tinyurl.com/Fuk-U-Chuck

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (i4CI5)

240 197 I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny.

unless something has changed back HISD (Houston) feeds all comers 3 meals/day 6am to 6pm.

Posted by: DanMan at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (XTiHL)

241 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (dNzKv)

Would you take HCQ as a preventative?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (YT5Rb)

242 Trump has spent 2016-2020 fixing the things he complained about in 1988, and which politicians promised over and over to fix. They don't understand that they have earned our total contempt.

Posted by: BourbonChicken with Face Colander at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (LxTcq)

243 207 Of course, I might be a leetle partial to the Mexica.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (o2MD2)

Or their skulls, anyway.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (1FhAQ)

244 Another victim of the cooronavirus:

The EU.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ european-leaders-warn-coronavirus -could-lead-to-the-breakup-of-their-union/ar-BB125QZz

European leaders warn coronavirus could lead to the breakup of their union

"The coronavirus pandemic, with its simultaneous health and economic crises, is deepening fault lines within Europe in a way some leaders fear could prove to be a final reckoning.
...
In the early days of the coronavirus outbreak, the response among European Union member states showed that national interests trump more-altruistic European ideals. Border restrictions were reimposed haphazardly..."

Awww, couldn't happen to a nicer Soviet Union successor state.

Posted by: that guy who is really unimpressed by things being on fire. at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (N9G0H)

245 RE: remote learning.

It mostly sucks. But, I see a few silver linings:

1.) I get to directly observe the low quality of education.

2.) I get to work directly with the girl. Her banal, rather pointless reading assignment became a way to discuss the geography of West Africa, different fruits and vegetables, why folk traditions happen, the importance of certain livestock to poor people, and the traditions of the RC and other churches.

Every word that needs explanation, whether it's "Mali" or "benediction" is an opportunity to stop the stupid assignment and learn something real.

3.) She has to type instead of write by hand. She is one of the few young people who doesn't much care for electronics, she's unfamiliar with them, and the painstaking process of typing her work makes her think about spelling. It's made a noticeable difference in her atrocious spelling in just a couple days.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (II2Y0)

246 For one thing, because if there is a panic there,
the first reaction of much of their population will be to swarm our
border so that they can get the "free" first-world medical care and
other goodies that they are "entitled" to in the U.S.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (k4dH2)

Misdirected concern. No need to give a shit what the Wuhan Flu does in Mexico. But much concern should be focused on why our betters don't want to build a barrier between them and us.

Every dollar spent down there on this virus is a dollar wasted. Build the dang wall.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (qcr5D)

247 You mean a faction of our Ruling and Donor Class is financially supporting the agenda of replacing Western Countries Citizens with Non Citizens, and capitalizing on a deadly pandemic to further their goals and endgame.

That's alt right crazy talk. /s

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (MRjKr)

248 we do not want a failed state on our southern border

it would be in America's best interest to have a viable functioning state to the south instead

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (iTXRQ)

249 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

250 What an excellent post.

Posted by: Ladyl at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (TdMsT)

251 @114I think some people are trying to head off the discovery that his was an engineered virus by claiming this respiratory virus "accidentally" was "ingested" by eating bats. Graham is trying to help steer the false narrative

Posted by: artemis at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (AwPyG)

252 Friendly Reminder:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

253 I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around

The STATED reason was to reduce "stigma" (feelings)

The REAL reason was to expand the bureaucracy and graft. mao maoing.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (LWu6U)

254 Moat. Wall. Razor wire. Land mines. Sniper towers.

Illegal Aliens aka Two-Legged Bioweapon Launch Vehicles.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (pyXq5)

255 Huh. Just got a Nextdoor alert on my phone.

There's a female doctor who has a practice on the island (dealing with menopause and female issues) who just sent out a notice that she's expecting 100 Bat Flu tests this afternoon, and will offer them to the first 100 people who come to her office this weekend, for $52. You drive up, hand over your cash in a Ziplock bag, and get tested in your car. She'll let you know your results in 48 hours. And you don't have to be exhibiting symptoms, just want to know because you're "worried."

I can't wait to read the hysterical responses.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (ptqGC)

256 248 we do not want a failed state on our southern border

it would be in America's best interest to have a viable functioning state to the south instead
Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (iTXRQ)

==========

So, what's your plan for the current failed state at our southern border?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (zZbCU)

257 DNC: Never-mind we will get CNN to do it instead and lip sync for you.

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (qM84C)

"Cut! We'll dub it."

Posted by: Liberty Mutaual Ad Director With Idiot Actor at April 03, 2020 03:05 PM (Y8PSl)

258 Black Orchid nope, not a betting type. Your detailed, substantive dismantling of the projections, with your alternative analysis, would be of great interest, however.

Let's not wait. Tell me how much better it is in NY/NJ than the model shows. We'll see in a week.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:06 PM (El6T/)

259 it would be in America's best interest to have a viable functioning state to the south instead
we'll need a time machine and to have the British colonize it instead of the Spanish then

Posted by: brak at April 03, 2020 03:06 PM (cG+eD)

260 235 The transformation of the schools into Soviet-style social welfare hubs has always amazed and horrified me. The current-generation parents of school-age kids I know literally can't begin to image why/how it's undesirable.

Pretty stark example of the massive, massive change (for the worse) in mindset and instincts of a yuuuge % of Americans in the last generation or two.

Posted by: rhomboid

Sorta like the "Young Pioneers" in the Soviet Union -- started out as a Boy Scout-type organization, evolved into a semi-mandatory communist brainwash cult for all young teenagers in Russia.

Posted by: zombie at April 03, 2020 03:06 PM (N9G0H)

261 we do not want a failed state on our southern border

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (iTXRQ)

We don't want failed states within our borders either - but we have them. We have them because sometimes, you have to let people suffer the consequences of their own bad decisions. Well - you always should. People only learn one way. The hard way.

We refuse to let people learn the hard way. It ain't to much to ask to build a fence while their dumb asses learn on their property instead of mine.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:06 PM (qcr5D)

262 "All I remember is that while my kid was in public school we were
bombarded with mail from the school system asking us to sign up."

When we pulled #1 son out of public school to homeschool at the end of third grade, the principal actually called my wife to ask he to enroll him for the Fall semester and let him come for a couple of weeks so he would be counted towards the total enrollment for the whole year. We basically told her LOLGF.

Posted by: freaked, vicationing the hell out of it at April 03, 2020 03:06 PM (Tnijr)

263 Where is Rodney King 's leadership when we need him ??????????

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at April 03, 2020 03:06 PM (qM84C)

264 >So, what's your plan for the current failed state at our southern border?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I have no plan. Just expressing an opinion.
I thought that's what we were doing.

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (iTXRQ)

265 @240
Los Angeles unified school district, too. They will feed all comers, no questions asked. Advertised heavily on the radio

Posted by: artemis at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (AwPyG)

266 251
@114I think some people are trying to head off the discovery that his
was an engineered virus by claiming this respiratory virus
"accidentally" was "ingested" by eating bats. Graham is trying to help
steer the false narrative

^^

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (pyXq5)

267 Wiki calls the Spanish Flu the "1918 Flu Epidemic" or the very generic "Deadly Influenza Epidemic."

The Spanish Flu lasted several years in waves.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (yDBK2)

Wiki is the wall in Animal Farm.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (T+/KY)

268 That's good news. Since you're a doctor, will they do another test because it came back negative? Or does this mean you're cleared to go back to work now?
Posted by: bluebell at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (/669Q)

Haven't been off work. The quarantine requirement changed to "Don't come to work if you have a fever or cough" Except I have yet to diagnose a case in a person who HAS a fever. Even cough is hit or miss. The symptoms are all over the place.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (dNzKv)

269 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:03 PM (II2Y0)

This x 1000

Posted by: pookysgirl, crayon expert at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (XKZwp)

270 133 I have tested negative for the ChiCom Lung Terror Death Aids! So 75% I don't have it.... yet. I guess that's something.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Yay!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM (G546f)

271 I hope nightsticks are involved. The world needs more knuckle sandwiches.

Posted by: nip at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (Izot6)

272 Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people.

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Announce that illegal aliens are no longer welcome in US hospitals, but we will provide transportation back to their home countries where they might get treated.

Posted by: Methos at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (kOpft)

273
I can't wait to read the hysterical responses.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (ptqGC)

oh do post about them......i'm going to make some popcorn

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (0O7c5)

274 Oh, yes, the agony of the EU is something to behold (agony of the EU-class and Brussels, not the problems for the populations, some of which are dealing with a baaad situation - oh, I mean, no big deal, just a flu).

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (El6T/)

275
Wiki is now calling this current Chinese Flu Pandemic "That Thing That Happened in 2020."

(not really)

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (yDBK2)

276 Los Angeles unified school district, too. They will feed all comers, no questions asked. Advertised heavily on the radio

Posted by: artemis at April 03, 2020 03:07 PM

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Same here in NE Texas. Just drive up and tell them how many bag lunches you want and they hand them over no questions asked.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (JUOKG)

277 Cuomo commandeering ventilators from rural NY is awful but he's their elected governor. That's better then Cuomo commandeering medical equipment and supplies from other states.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (bDqIh)

278 Silver lining?

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (jUVms)

279 Dallas judge slope head Clay Jenkins is retarded.
Poo flung.

Posted by: azalea city at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (WX+x0)

280 >DNC: Never-mind we will get CNN to do it instead and lip sync for you.

does anybody remember those old Clutch Cargo cartoons and the way the characters' lips moved? That will be a feature of Joe's campaign ads- just a static shot of Joe's head with the weird moving cartoon lips

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (iTXRQ)

281 Wiki calls the Spanish Flu the "1918 Flu Epidemic" or the very generic "Deadly Influenza Epidemic."

they actually just changed that in the last month, right on-time with the "place name disease is racist" directive from the Chicoms

Posted by: brak at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (cG+eD)

282 According to Zero Hedge, Brooke Baldwin has CV19.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (y7DUB)

283 >>> With all the schools closed how many tax funded teachers do you expect will be laid off?

My guess is anywhere between zero and lolz.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Piercing Nipples

Two of my sisters are public school teachers. You know how I know they are still getting paid? Because they have yet to complain about the school shutdowns.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (NMkO+)

284
European leaders warn coronavirus could lead to the breakup of their union

Translation: Europeans rediscover why they once had borders.

Posted by: Zombie John Paul Jones at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (PtOP4)

285 Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people.

So much "new normal."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (pyXq5)

286 Chocolate Jesus said yesterday the virus is a result of Global Climate change !! What a brilliant deduction Sherlock ..............

Posted by: James at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (qM84C)

287 she's expecting 100 Bat Flu tests this afternoon, and will offer them to the first 100 people who come to her office this weekend, for $52. You drive up, hand over your cash in a Ziplock bag, and get tested in your car. She'll let you know your results in 48 hours. And you don't have to be exhibiting symptoms, just want to know because you're "worried."

Posted by: Jane D'oh

--

Doctors are exempt from price gouging.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (Hcsoi)

288
Before I forget, keep an eye of the really rotten fake news organ Daily Mail UK.

You probably heard, but the other day they printed the claim that President-elect Trump was warned about this in January 2017, via his "defense chiefs" source, whatever that means.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:10 PM (yDBK2)

289 Stop the danged funeral!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at April 03, 2020 03:10 PM (jvt6t)

290 I saw ButtHurt and AssMad open for Wham! at the Old Fruit Market in Glasgow around '85.

Posted by: ShainS at April 03, 2020 03:11 PM (k2nzL)

291 "Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people."

I think I've figured out a way to save the airline industry.

Posted by: freaked, vicationing the hell out of it at April 03, 2020 03:11 PM (Tnijr)

292 Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (ptqGC)
oh do post about them......i'm going to make some popcorn

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 03, 2020 03:08 PM (0O7c5)

Oh, I will when they come in.

My favorite scold yesterday, was a woman who gleefully told of reporting a young father pushing a stroller on the cart path of a closed golf course. "I called security right away!"

Until Nextdoor, I assumed everyone around me (with a few exceptions) were mostly sweet, kindly, elderly retirees. Turns out they're the meanest.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:11 PM (ptqGC)

293 hmmm

saw a ticker that 3M is ignoring Trump and continuing to work with Canada on selling them the masks

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 03, 2020 03:11 PM (8fB/R)

294 "there is no way we can deport 30 million people."

jobs dry up (due to pandemic or e-verify or other enforcement ... then they "self-deport", aka, Go home to their family". At least a lot have family back HOME, they like their family and home.

And in Trump the Sequel, maybe anchor baby citizenship ends ... or a few other miracles (aka, take the DeepState foot off the hose of liberty and the "public servant" response to the citizenry that goes with it

Posted by: illiniwek at April 03, 2020 03:11 PM (Cus5s)

295 I may be misremembering but wasn't it also that income requirements were removed so that everyone would sign up that way no one would be stigmatized by getting a free lunch.

All I remember is that while my kid was in public school we were bombarded with mail from the school system asking us to sign up. Here's the application form again in case you didn't get the one we mailed you over the summer, or the one the teacher sent home with your kid, or the one we had available at back to school night. Relentless.

Same thing happened when our kid's elementary school piloted the free breakfast program. Please, eat the free food, come in with your kid and you can eat free food, too! We need to prove that there's a need to get in implemented in all schools blah blah blah.

If you have to beg and plead with me to take free stuff there's not a need for it.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 02:59 PM (bDqIh)

The primary use of that is to get Federal dollars into the school system. Once they have them, they can use turning off the spigot to force schools to do what they want.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (eoQWY)

296 I listen to Cuomo, and the way he whines on -- I think maybe he is the Fredo. I don't know, I never saw his brother, but the gov. does not appear very smart or charismatic.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (LWu6U)

297 "I can't wait to read the hysterical responses.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:04 PM (ptqGC)"

Tell them you would go. But it's unclear how hygienic or confidential a drive through rectal test will be.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (VpIIl)

298 Doctors are exempt from price gouging.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 03:09 PM (Hcsoi)

Somebody ain't been keeping up. Price Gouging is totally awesome. It's the only way the Free Market understands that you need more of a certain kind of stuff.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (qcr5D)

299 If I was a doctor testing randos driving up in their cars, the last method of payment I would accept is their sweaty cash in a ziplock. Apple Pay or something like that or gtfo

Posted by: NCKate at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (XfMJE)

300 If I was a hospital administrator in upstate NY I'd be hiding any ventilator not in use behind the boiler in the basement.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (YT5Rb)

301 Spanish Flu has been "renamed" to "the 1918 Flu."

"Experts" on tv clumsily meander referring to the Spanish Flu, these days, by inaccurately calling it "the 1918 Flu."
Posted by: Soothsayer

agree and amplify: the 1918 Chinese Flu
Posted by: x at April 03, 2020 02:57 PM (nFwvY)

Covid--1918 ?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (CqE5x)

302
"Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people."

I think I've figured out a way to save the airline industry.

lol

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (pyXq5)

303 Said this last week. We need to fortify the border, bigly. The outbreak, when it hits the southern hemisphere will result in human wave attempts to cross our borders.

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (iQmdl)

304 Oh Johnnie Mack, we hardly knew ye. I remember liking him back in 2000 during the Primaries when he was running "The Straight Talk Express". I wish I could remember what he said that turned me off and I switched to G.W. but I imagine it was his straight talk contempt for the voters he was trying to woo.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (/Njku)

305 We'll see how they make out but those kids who came back to Austin and now about 40 of them are positive for the virus went to Mexico on Spring Break.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)

I did see that, although they all shared a chartered plane down there, so; did they get it in Mexico, or did one infected American expose everyone else on that plane? Either way, it does show that Mexico has been exposed. By what we currently believe there should be millions of deaths soon. Shouldn't there be?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (V2Yro)

306 You mean foreign interests are behind the agenda to take down Western Countries through various applications of Marxism and replacement populations? These actors won't be transparent on who is finding them?
Maybe they should be sent to GITMO during this pandemic for crimes involving treason and sedition. Just a thought.

Yes we can make 30 million go back.

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (MRjKr)

307 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (dNzKv)

Would you take HCQ as a preventative?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (YT5Rb)

Not as a preventative. If I was a confirmed positive, starting to show symptoms I would. There is some suggestion that a weekly dose may be effective as preventative. There isnt enough to treat 325 million, and I don't have enough of a sense of entitlement to demand something for myself that I would demand another person. We should start seeing data soon on whether people taking plaquenil for other conditions are protected from covid.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

308 I listen to Cuomo, and the way he whines on -- I think maybe he is the Fredo. I don't know, I never saw his brother, but the gov. does not appear very smart or charismatic.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (LWu6U)

He's a meatball

Posted by: JoeF. at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)

309 >>saw a ticker that 3M is ignoring Trump and continuing to work with Canada on selling them the masks

Bold move, Cotton!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (bDqIh)

310 *deny another person.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (dNzKv)

311 Along these lines, I heard Hoover Institute (I am not clear on who is behind this group), interviewing Neil Ferguson, who I believe is the guy who created the panicdemic, with is predictions for whoever that was, that everyone was listening to.

So... Mr. Ferguson was saying that he thinks, since Facebook and Google already know everything there is to know about us already, maybe we oughta turn over to them the ability to monitor people for future epidemics.

Yeah. Sure.

I am sure I'm missing something here, but that for me put Hoover Institution into the "no" category.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (hku12)

312 I don't talk to my neighbors, and when they approach me I usually start by saying "what the f do you want?" Most of them are liberal busybodies, and I have zero desire to engage them on anything.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

313 "Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people."

I think I've figured out a way to save the airline industry.

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Cruise ship industry too

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (h+Dtu)

314 Actually Young Pioneers *started* as a commie indoctrination outfit/socializing instrument for the yutes.

The Komsomol (League of Young Communists) was of course the 20-something networking/brown-nosing organization.

The collapse of the Soviet system was kinda foretold in the utter cynicism, careerism, and corruption of the Komsomol. In the late 70s I spent time over there and had several events with the Komsomol. It varied a bit, but even then was starkly clear that everyone in it viewed it simply as mandatory/a useful tool for self-promotion. Ideological enthusiasm = Zero.

Although in only one case did the Komsomol people at the lunch table say, within 5 minutes of sitting down, "let's blow this popsickle stand", and proceed to ditch the event with me - and best of all, jump a fence and haul down a Soviet republic flag on a government building, in broad daylight, because I mentioned it had the best design of all the republic flags.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (El6T/)

315 Canadian radio news currently having subdued freakout about Trump stopping 3M from selling to Canada. Sources "warn it could lead to retaliation."

Quebec and Ontario confirmed cases skyrocketed from last week...

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 03, 2020 03:15 PM (/+bwe)

316 saw a ticker that 3M is ignoring Trump and continuing to work with Canada on selling them the masks

Bold move, Cotton!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (bDqIh)

manchild Trudeau saying he doesn't want to start a border war on goods - holding back w/e they have, no clue

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 03, 2020 03:15 PM (8fB/R)

317 Well stated, ace.

And in case anyone is interested after watching that video --

The headstone for U.S. Sen. John McCain's grave in the U.S. Naval Academy Cemetery in Annapolis was quietly placed more than a month after his burial

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2020 03:15 PM (Z4rgH)

318 Posted by: Jane D'oh

I imagine the good Dr has been writing scripts for plaquenil for all of her friends and family too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:16 PM (dNzKv)

319 I don't talk to my neighbors, and when they approach
me I usually start by saying "what the f do you want?" Most of them are
liberal busybodies, and I have zero desire to engage them on anything.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

I have come to the conclusion that you and I would get along splendidly. The only time I'd walk up to you would be with a extra beer in hand and the desire to bullshit for a few minutes. Maybe show you the new gun or tool I got.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:16 PM (qcr5D)

320 And the reporters in the WH press room Task Force briefings, asking their questions.

Their audience, in their view, is the rest of their Trump-hating colleagues in the nearby seats, and their Trump-hating producers, editors, cameramen, staffers, all back at HQ.

Finally, they view their audience beyond that immediate crowd as having exactly the same leftist worldview as them.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 03, 2020 03:16 PM (+fPHo)

321 Same here in NE Texas. Just drive up and tell them how many bag lunches you want and they hand them over no questions asked.

HISD has been doing this for at least 3 or 4 years. It started with the school kids, then their families, then everybody. It wipes out grocery stores and fast food joints near the schools.

And if you live near an elementary school in Houston you get to see the cars line up in the dark to drop their kids off at 6am and those same cars (usually nicer than yours) show up at 6pm on the dot to pick them up.

Posted by: DanMan at April 03, 2020 03:16 PM (XTiHL)

322
FUN FACT: The Hitler Youth was constructed and run by Baldur von Schirach, a man more American than German.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:16 PM (II2Y0)

323 The headstone for U.S. Sen. John McCain's grave
in the U.S. Naval Academy Cemetery in Annapolis was quietly placed more
than a month after his burial

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2020 03:15 PM (Z4rgH)

Is it adorned with gold leaf?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (ptqGC)

324 "Also, there is no way we can deport 30 million people."

If anyone can rise to a logistical challenge, it is trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (dNzKv)

325 Speaking of deportation - after WWII Europe did it basically immediately, sending ethnic Germans out of Poland and other countries right away.

Historically it isn't very hard to deport people that speak a different language and have a different culture.

Hell, if you want to go it in 6 months just do the following:

Offer a bounty of $10K for reporting anyone knowingly employing an illegal. If you are an illegal and you report someone you get a green card as well. But only the first person reporting gets the greencard.

Offer a bounty of $1K per illegal alien deported.

Add to the penalty for being here illegal 100% of the value of assets earned in the US and/or all assets on hand whichever is higher.

Illegals would know everyone was trying to find them and they will lose everything if caught, and the only way out is to turn in whoever they are working for or go home.

Problem solved.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (WdocV)

326 288

Before I forget, keep an eye of the really rotten fake news organ Daily Mail UK.

You probably heard, but the other day they printed the claim that
President-elect Trump was warned about this in January 2017, via his
"defense chiefs" source, whatever that means.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:10 PM (yDBK2)

___________

He refused to read the Presidential Daily Brief (especially Light Lt. Colonel Vindman's updates on the status of the US Strategic Pastry Reserve) -- IMPEACH!

Posted by: ShainS at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (k2nzL)

327 The headstone for U.S. Sen. John McCain's grave
in the U.S. Naval Academy Cemetery in Annapolis was quietly placed more
than a month after his burial

He's been buried already? The funeral just got started!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (dNzKv)

328 >>>
What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)

What if the filthy sicarios and their bosses come down with it?

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (N+GSq)

329 Oil +12.80%

Posted by: Ha at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (odrqb)

330 That McCain ad lives on in my dang memory. I wanted to believe in the guy. But no, he was a lying sack of shit just like all the others.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (NVYyb)

331 Breaking News

Confirmation of the rumor that Brooke Baldwin was rimming Fredo #1, regularly

Posted by: Uncle Bodies at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (rpxSz)

332 I remember hearing about governments that encourage people to spy on and turn in their neighbors for menial things... now was that the Nazi's, Communist, Socialist??? Oh wait that is right here in the USA right now...///

Posted by: lin-duh at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (UUBmN)

333 >>I did see that, although they all shared a chartered plane down there, so; did they get it in Mexico, or did one infected American expose everyone else on that plane? Either way, it does show that Mexico has been exposed. By what we currently believe there should be millions of deaths soon. Shouldn't there be?

I have no idea when they are predicted to peak. But again, who is doing the counting? If this breaks out in Mexico City, one of the densest cities in the world, do you think the real results would be substantively better than NYC? How many ventilators do you suppose there are in the entire country of Mexico?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)

334 Don't get me wrong, I appreciate Christian education, but the school is starting to rely on Common Core instead of occasionally using it as a resource as they promised.

Posted by: pookysgirl, crayon expert at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (XKZwp)

335 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

For the record I have no problem with health care workers treating Coronavirus patients using it as a preventative. In fact I'd want them to even if it's a 50/50 chance of being effective.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (YT5Rb)

336 Posted by: Jane D'oh

I imagine the good Dr has been writing scripts for plaquenil for all of her friends and family too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:16 PM (dNzKv)

Wouldn't doubt it. I don't know her. She used to be on Oprah or something as a women's "health expert." She helps women with libido issues.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (ptqGC)

337 I listen to Cuomo, and the way he whines on -- I think maybe he is the Fredo. I don't know, I never saw his brother, but the gov. does not appear very smart or charismatic.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (LWu6U)

He's a meatball
Posted by: JoeF. at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)

Both of these Cummo brothers have a knuckleface.

I think it's sort of an Italian thing, but I know lots of Italians who don't look that way. I think it's also a New York thing, and again, lots of New Yorkers don't have knucklefaces.

But those two do.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (hku12)

338 Canada needs masks because they sold theirs to China. Seriously.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JKNZq)

339 America's asshole fixation is telling.
Telling what, who knows.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (N+GSq)

340 I don't talk to my neighbors, and when they approach
me I usually start by saying "what the f do you want?" Most of them are
liberal busybodies, and I have zero desire to engage them on anything.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:14 PM

---

Let me tell you the story of one of my neighbors.

They are the Trans and they came from Vietnam. We had a chain link fence put up on our property when we moved in to keep the dogs in, I called it the "wire".

There is a neighborhood cat named Charlie who would walk by the fence teasing our dogs and they would bark madly at him when he did that.

When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

341 warned about this in January 2017
Ha, good one. And what a convenient date too. I am guessing he was warned at noon on Jan. 20th that year, right?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (r+sAi)

342 First offense: $10,000 PER Illegal employee

Second offense: $100,000 per illegal employee and the company officers go to jail for 1 year.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:20 PM (dNzKv)

343 I have no idea when they are predicted to peak. But again, who is doing the counting? If this breaks out in Mexico City, one of the densest cities in the world, do you think the real results would be substantively better than NYC? How many ventilators do you suppose there are in the entire country of Mexico?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)

This will be a good baseline for the modelers and statisticians.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:20 PM (N+GSq)

344 Let me tell you the story of one of my neighbors.

They are the Trans ...

April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

OK, I misinterpreted that at first, and thought this story was going in an entirely different direction.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (CAJOC)

345 323 Jane D'oh

Here's a pic --

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status
/1050431362359013376

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (Z4rgH)

346 https://tinyurl.com/uobalux

EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus Expert Says Virus Could Have Leaked From Wuhan Lab

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (pyXq5)

347 Dear Mr McCain....keep a stiff upper lip and you look nicer with that long hair and that whole coffin grunge look.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (mPyi0)

348 >>Canadian radio news currently having subdued freakout about Trump stopping 3M from selling to Canada. Sources "warn it could lead to retaliation."

Haven't read a lot on this, but isn't it the case that 3M had contracts with states, such as Florida, in which FL could not change the terms, but then 3M in turn decided to sell what it had ready to Canada instead (moving FL's order to the waitlist) because they were offered more money?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (bDqIh)

349
When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

I just laughed so hard I teared up and couldn't see the monitor.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (ptqGC)

350 327 The headstone for U.S. Sen. John McCain's grave
in the U.S. Naval Academy Cemetery in Annapolis was quietly placed more
than a month after his burial

A french drain was installed beneath his final resting place

paid for by a generous donations from Blatz. Schlitz and Old Milwaukee

Posted by: Uncle Bodies at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (rpxSz)

351 For the record I have no problem with health care
workers treating Coronavirus patients using it as a preventative. In
fact I'd want them to even if it's a 50/50 chance of being effective.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (YT5Rb)

If the country was doing real, honest shit like that - I'd have no problem using my automation skills to help gear up the effort. I'd volunteer. I have no debts. Fuck it. It would beat telling my grand-kids I shoveled shit in Louisiana.

But that ain't what we're doing right now. We're fucking around, and mostly lying about the numbers.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (qcr5D)

352 EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus Expert Says Virus Could Have Leaked From Wuhan Lab
Posted by: deplorable unperson
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EXCLUSIVE: The sun rises in the East!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (UUBmN)

353 YD, and don't forget, Baldur von Schirach, Hitlerjugend chief AND descendant of not one, but two, signers of the Declaration of Independence. Pretty astounding.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (El6T/)

354
If this breaks out in Mexico City, one of the densest cities in the world, do you think the real results would be substantively better than NYC? How many ventilators do you suppose there are in the entire country of Mexico?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)

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Oddly enough, MX City has a thriving medical sector with plenty of research institutions, universities, and training hospitals dedicated to it.

For a more accurate portrayal of MX, I'd look to Guadalajara.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (II2Y0)

355 She helps women with libido issues.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

--

Small world!

- Paolo

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (Hcsoi)

356
warned about this in January 2017
Ha, good one. And what a convenient date too. I am guessing he was warned at noon on Jan. 20th that year, right?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Oddly enough, January 6th, I believe.
Which, as you imply, raises the un-asked question of why obama ignored this warning.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (yDBK2)

357 So.
Does anyone in here have knowledge or experience with national food production? Or models (mathematical...not kbdabear style...as much as I enjoy those)?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (axyOa)

358 He's been buried already? The funeral just got started!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (dNzKv)

I knew that one was coming...

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2020 03:22 PM (Z4rgH)

359 Already seeing the "crops are going to rot in the fields" stories popping up.

I suppose, these might even be true for certain scenarios, BUT if you can't get any local workers when there's mass unemployment ... maybe you need to look into robots or something.

Hell, right know you could probably convince a million people presently just trapped in their house/apartment to come pick your blueberries or whatever as temporary "essential workers/volunteers" just to break up their boredom.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (dYe5S)

360 That McCain ad lives on in my dang memory. I wanted to believe in the guy. But no, he was a lying sack of shit just like all the others.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 03, 2020 03:18 PM (NVYyb)

Before the 2008 campaign I couldn't figure out why Rush said such negative things about McCain. By the time November arrived I wanted to hang the old goat.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (y7DUB)

361 >>EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus Expert Says Virus Could Have Leaked From Wuhan Lab

No way. You mean it didn't come from Charlie Chan eating a bat?

Remember that flurry of arrests around the beginning of the year of researchers in Canada and the US that were working for China?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

362 Trump was soooooper pissed yesterday that
3M was selling masks out of country.

He slammed his heel on their big toe.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (N+GSq)

363 What if Mexico ignores the virus, and nothing happens?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)

If they ignore the virus and 100,000 die, Cardenas can hand Vincente Fox one peso and say "You won the bet, Mortimer"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (dNzKv)

364 303 Said this last week. We need to fortify the border, bigly. The outbreak, when it hits the southern hemisphere will result in human wave attempts to cross our borders.
________________

There are reports that Ecuador is being hit hard, and that its medical system is already overwhelmed. Also reports of bodies lying unclaimed in the streets, as the morgues are full.

Anybody who thinks our border won't get swarmed if the virus hits Mexico hard has not been paying attention for decades.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (k4dH2)

365 Great post, Ace! Here are three questions, in order of seriousness:

1) Who exactly does fund Mark Levin? Rush Limbaugh is particularly reliant on his GOP voters, and I always thought he pulled himself up to greatness. But Mark Levin merged CRTV with Glenn Beck's operation.... and that guy was a Hillary loving dry drunk who blew apart his business empire. So that's a huge red flag to me no matter what else he's done. And given CRTV's incredibly shabby treatment of Mark Steyn, that is quite a bit of else.

2) What's up with Non Binary Ben Shapiro? Kid has a face for radio and a voice for calling rats, but he keeps getting promoted like he's the second coming of Rush. Yet Breitbart fired not just him, but his father- a man working at the same company yet never heard about. Who are the shadowy billionaires propping up this nebbishy stooge? Why is someone less popular than the gay agenda being shoved down our throats with even more urgency?

3) I could forgive the above questions if someone could answer this- seriously, what's up with the media? No one supports the President publicly across the entire television broadcast spectrum. Even Fox is mostly unreliable, as opposed to reliable. So how does that happen? Why are our TV airwaves, federal agencies, banks, and legal systems filled with people literally self destructing in the coup attempt against the President? What is the simplest way to diagnose the sickness of Frum, Kristol, Charen, Shapiro, Goldberg, Bloomberg, Weissman, the Vindmans, Yanukovich, Berman Jackson, and Epstein? It can't be "they're all Democrats" because quite a few of them have political influence solely as nominal Republicans. And it can't purely be down to ethnicity because there are a lot of co-ethnics who hate what these people do. (And Netflix, among others, seems inordinately fascinated with portraying the Orthodox like a fringe religious cult.)

So what's the deal?

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (0HpOW)

366 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 02:48 PM (dNzKv)

Would you take HCQ as a preventative?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:02 PM (YT5Rb)

Not as a preventative. If I was a confirmed positive, starting to show symptoms I would. There is some suggestion that a weekly dose may be effective as preventative. There isnt enough to treat 325 million, and I don't have enough of a sense of entitlement to demand something for myself that I would demand another person. We should start seeing data soon on whether people taking plaquenil for other conditions are protected from covid.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

Now that Whimer has said, "never mind" to jailing doctors and pharmacists that prescribe Hydroxyquine and Z paks for covid 19 patients., Henry Ford Hospital system in metro Detroit is starting a trial with FDA approval of 3,000 health care providers who volunteer to take the drugs as a preventative. Should be starting today or tomorrow.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (hhYtz)

367 Shi Zhengli, China's leading virologist on bat-borne viruses, said in March that she lost sleep worrying that the virus could have leaked from her lab in Wuhan after she first learned of the virus in December.

Shi now tells those who share the concerns she once had to "shut their stinking mouths."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (pyXq5)

368 the DPA gives Trump the ability to seize all 3M masks at the factory. I hope he does so.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (r+sAi)

369 323 Jane D'oh

Here's a pic --

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status

/1050431362359013376

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2020 03:21 PM (Z4rgH)

What the actual.......

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (ptqGC)

370 I just realized that, unless my school district were to close in the fall, I won't be laid off. I'm on my way to being a freaking rockstar employee by creating THREE classes from scratch, compared to most creating one, at most.

I'm also disgruntled about everyone and their grandmother getting my personal phone number, though.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (/+bwe)

371 Let's face it, in the best case scenario CA become our gaza strip. The coyote ugly appendage that we have to cut off to save the corpus.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (LWu6U)

372 Let me tell you the story of one of my neighbors.

They are the Trans and they came from Vietnam. We had a chain link fence put up on our property when we moved in to keep the dogs in, I called it the "wire".

There is a neighborhood cat named Charlie who would walk by the fence teasing our dogs and they would bark madly at him when he did that.

When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

We had the exact same thing happen here. Except the neighborhood cat is named "Gooks."

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (hku12)

373 First offense: $10,000 PER Illegal employee

Second offense: $100,000 per illegal employee and the company officers go to jail for 1 year.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

1st offense: Government takes the company and sells off the assets.

If you are going to take a family's only means of transportation because daddy got a hummer from a hooker in his car, you can take IBP for hiring illegals.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (Oqufv)

374 75 Trump has been prescient from day 1 about the actual threats to this country; illegal immigration and China. Of course, no where does the MSM acknowledge that.
Posted by: IanDeal at April 03, 2020 02:40 PM (vgGyZ)

Trump will be rubbing it in people's faces soon enough. Not yet, however.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (iuFgi)

375 No way. You mean it didn't come from Charlie Chan eating a bat?

Remember that flurry of arrests around the beginning of the year of researchers in Canada and the US that were working for China?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

Just like 5 minutes after the WTC fell, Bush was like "Awww shit, that fucking Osama Bin Laden!" and we were like, "Who? What?"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (dNzKv)

376 361 >>EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus Expert Says Virus Could Have Leaked From Wuhan Lab

I don't care

I still got the clap from a toilet seat !!

Posted by: Uncle Bodies at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (rpxSz)

377 323
The headstone for U.S. Sen. John McCain's grave

in the U.S. Naval Academy Cemetery in Annapolis was quietly placed more

than a month after his burial

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2020 03:15 PM (Z4rgH)

Is it adorned with gold leaf?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:17 PM (ptqGC)

A right hand reaching out of the ground, the middle finger raised in salute.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quarantine Special - Free Delivery of Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (s6M7E)

378 @361There's even some amazing video out there of helicopters landing on Wilshire Blvd late at night with men in hazmat uniforms leaping out to bring containers out from an office building. No idea if it was real.

Posted by: artemis at April 03, 2020 03:25 PM (AwPyG)

379 Anybody who thinks our border won't get swarmed if the virus hits Mexico hard has not been paying attention for decades.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (k4dH2)

Kind of statement always said whenever somebody wants to spike the football, end discussion, and have their word be the final word.

No - we don't have to be swarmed by Mexican refugees. We've never had to be. We chose to be.

We can choose differently. Now.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (qcr5D)

380 Not as a preventative. If I was a confirmed positive, starting to show
symptoms I would. There is some suggestion that a weekly dose may be
effective as preventative. There isnt enough to treat 325 million, and I
don't have enough of a sense of entitlement to demand something for
myself that I would demand another person. We should start seeing data
soon on whether people taking plaquenil for other conditions are
protected from covid.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:13 PM

---

We took that stuff every Monday when we were in or going into a malaria endemic area.

While it's not 100% effective, we had less than a 1% malaria infected rate on an Aircraft Carrier with 5,000 people.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (JUOKG)

381 When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

I don't get it

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

382 My husband hauled the recyclables into town, and is at our local Publix. He texted me to see what I needed.

I cannot wait to hear his "Tales From Behind the Blue Line."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (ptqGC)

383 Herr Pritzler in Illinazi dictated that landscapers are exempt from the shutdown, ergo, the suburban yards are crawling with illegals and their illegal leaf blowers. Because Jodi Winemom can't be seen doing this work, and Lukas needs to work on his extracurriculars to get into Northwestern.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (DY3v8)

384 >>Remember that flurry of arrests around the beginning of the year of researchers in Canada and the US that were working for China?

Yes, yes I do. Particularly the Harvard professor and the manhunt for the Chinese military woman who was posing as a Boston university student.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:27 PM (bDqIh)

385 >>>Anybody who thinks our border won't get swarmed if the virus hits Mexico hard has not been paying attention for decades.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (k4dH2)

Or, no one to swarm the border.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:27 PM (N+GSq)

386 Cat Ass, LOL.

And the Border Patrol has been gaming out and strategerizing for a border rush induced by Fake Flu panic in MX, only rational to do so. The additional barriers and monitoring help, and the more sane procedures (noted in the post) as well. Even in a desperate situation, you can deter and influence my making outcomes clear (i.e. "you're not crossing and staying here").

Who'da thunk it.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:27 PM (El6T/)

387
When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

------

I had a Vietnamese girlfriend I'd refer to, often, as "my little zipperhead." She didn't figure it out for years, and was pretty damned pissed off when she did.

True story.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:28 PM (II2Y0)

388 I don't get it
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

"Charlie" was slang for Viet Cong.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 03, 2020 03:28 PM (SgjGX)

389 Who are the people actually funding Tim Carney and Ramesh Ponuru?

Who are they pandering to?

Again, I know who's pulling Rush Limbaugh's and Mark Levin's strings.

Who's pulling theirs? Who is their actual client?

Whose favor do they have to curry and cultivate, or else lose their jobs?

Why won't they disclose it?
----------------------------------------

Yoo hooooo! Oh, Boys!!!! Over heeeaaaahh!

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (w+Ped)

390 I dropped by a local store in between innumerable conference calls today. Everybody normal, except one purple haired woman with a mask and latex gloves. She looked around, and said that she might be over paranoid. I replied that if she has the flu, the mask would help us, it wasn't going to prevent her from catching it. I don't think she appreciated the information.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (Hcsoi)

391 >>Yes, yes I do. Particularly the Harvard professor and the manhunt for the Chinese military woman who was posing as a Boston university student.

If I remember correctly there was also an arrest at MIT and at least 1 in Canada. All working on virology research.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (ZLI7S)

392 I don't get it
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

"Charlie" was slang for Viet Cong.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

In the wire was them at the perimeter of your encampment.

Way too close. Bad juju.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (Oqufv)

393 So, are we going to finally close down all these Chinese indoctrination centers on our college campuses?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (ptqGC)

394 1) Who exactly does fund Mark Levin? Rush Limbaugh
is particularly reliant on his GOP voters
Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (0HpOW)
Rush never ran for anything... people dont vote for radio personalities. If they draw listeners they get air time.Dumbass

Posted by: Corn Fed at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (EA1BR)

395 I've always believed the idea behind unfettered immigration into the US was about importing new voters who will vote 'correctly'
i.e., for democrats
Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM (iTXRQ)

It's also about replacing "uppity" Americans with peasants who will not question their masters. The biggest miracle of America is the way people can be upwardly mobile. An upwardly mobile population is NOT what the master class and the globalists want.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (kXoT0)

396 nd that guy was a Hillary loving dry drunk who blew apart his business empire.

Beck was worse than a Hillary lover... He was all in for that other fucktwit. Because.. Muh princibuls. Now let me show you the cool artifacts I bought with your monthly subscription fee rather than hiring real talent to produce content.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (dNzKv)

397 Yes, yes I do. Particularly the Harvard professor and the manhunt for the Chinese military woman who was posing as a Boston university student.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:27 PM (bDqIh)

Literally anyone -could- claim they were part of a deliberate attempt by the Chinese military to infect America. I'm a virulent chicom hater and even I don't think that! But it is the most obvious explanation.

If you think the last four years were a gift to demagogy, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (0HpOW)

398 I don't get it
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

"Charlie" was slang for Viet Cong.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

In the wire was them at the perimeter of your encampment.

Way too close. Bad juju.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (Oqufv)

What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

399 Anybody who thinks our border won't get swarmed if the virus hits Mexico hard has not been paying attention for decades.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:23 PM (k4dH2)

I agree if the MSM starts reporting that the virus is on the down swing and the USA is open for business again. Until then , the people south of us also think we have bodies lying in the middle of the streets because the morgues are full.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (YT5Rb)

400 When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

I don't get it

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM

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During the Vietnam war the enemy was referred to as "Charlie" and when they attacked everyone would shout "Charlie's in the wire" when they breached the defenses.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (JUOKG)

401 There was an AF general use to be Fox reg. and on his last appearance called McCain songbird john.
My thought at that moment , the general was done with the fox asshoes. He was a Nam decorated pilot and he knew.

Posted by: azalea city at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (WX+x0)

402 So looking at the video of the helicopters on Wiltshire blvd isn't it interesting our nominal brave reporters don't do sh*t in looking into things like this?

Did anyone ask the DoD? Or the FBI? Or the State Police?

One of the commenters remarks the video is actually from the Obama years so who knows....

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (WdocV)

403
I don't get it
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

VC = Victor Charlie in the US Military phonetic alphabet.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (w+Ped)

404 That video of that chinese lady touching all the computers was really creepy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (r+sAi)

405 Beck was worse than a Hillary lover... He was all in
for that other fucktwit. Because.. Muh princibuls. Now let me show you
the cool artifacts I bought with your monthly subscription fee rather
than hiring real talent to produce content.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (dNzKv)

He was a David French and Egg McMuffin fanatic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (ptqGC)

406 So what's the deal?

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (0HpOW)

3. Righties hire based on merit, but lefties only hire each other. Eventually entire organizations become leftist.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (T+/KY)

407 I replied that if she has the flu, the mask would help us, it wasn't going to prevent her from catching it. I don't think she appreciated the information.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (Hcsoi)

I wear a mask because I might have it and not know it. THere are alot of asymptomatic, or mildly symptomatic carriers shedding virus everywhere.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (dNzKv)

408 Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (0HpOW)

When I was in college after 9/11, I would attend symposiums across the country on National Security and Islam as I was studying economics and international relations. I wanted to get into radio. That was a dream I had since I was a kid. I would buy VIP tickets to meet the authors of books and speakers at these events. Ben Shapiro was at most of these selling a book. People always spoke of him like he was the smartest person in the world and the would be the second coming of Rush but way smarter and more educated.
The push started long ago. There is big money, influence, and an agenda behind Ben Shapiro. I'll just leave it at that.

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (MRjKr)

409 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

Black dude in a jazz club.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:32 PM (w+Ped)

410 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM

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OK that made me laugh.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)

411 economy into a brick wall and that we might be closer towards the back of the bus but that doesn't eventually mean that our faces are going to get crushed as well. Mostly I've heard jokes about 401ks being 01ks etc. I honestly think until this asshole class feels the burn we will be trapped in our houses. Once it's them being laid off suddenly we'll all be given the Trump-A-Rita cocktail of malaria drugs and z-packs and face masks and being told it's safe to go back to work.
Posted by: nightwitch at April 03, 2020 02:58 PM (RhlXD)
concur!
And the Trump-A-Rita cocktail should be a brand extension for Value-Rite Inc.

Posted by: The people across the aisle want us silenced at best,dead at worst at April 03, 2020 03:32 PM (xXx5y)

412 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

A soft, fluffy creature considered "dinner" in China.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:32 PM (ptqGC)

413
162 Moat. Wall. Razor wire. Land mines. Sniper towers.
Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2020 02:51 PM (ZfRYq)

Crocodiles, fougasse, punji sticks, sharks with frickin' lasers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (EGyGV)

414 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

Black dude in a jazz club.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve

Black dude in a jazz club with a functioning air conditioning system?

A cool cat.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (Oqufv)

415 Glenn Beck is Just Crazy and Menopausal rather than political or partisan or any of that sorta stuff

sort of a Blanche DuBois, always depending on the kindness of strangers, etc

Posted by: Jinx Falkenburg at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (8KSPd)

416 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM

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OK that made me laugh.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)

I don't know, but I think vmom was yankin' some chains with her "I don't get it" comment.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (hku12)

417 My one neighbor whom I loath saw me pull up one day and decided to chat. He wanted to tell me he had a surveyor coming and was putting up a fence. I have a long drive and he was half way up before I got out of the car. Problem was I just got back from training at the range and still had on my war belt with and M11-A1 in the holster. He turned around and walked away. He also put his fence over 20 feet from the property line. Win.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (wElh/)

418 If they draw listeners they get air time.Dumbass

Posted by: Corn Fed at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (EA1

If you're done being a douche, assume that GOP voters are a substantial part of the Rush base (crazy, I know). So if that's true, why do the radio bosses replace popular hosts like Savage with unpopular ones like Shapiro?

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (0HpOW)

419 You can't deport 30 million immigrants

So, we puede!

Posted by: cornbred at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (A751K)

420 Charlie" was slang for Viet Cong.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Charlie = Cong

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (YT5Rb)

421 Charlie don't surf.

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (iTXRQ)

422 Kind of statement always said whenever somebody wants to spike the football, end discussion, and have their word be the final word.

No - we don't have to be swarmed by Mexican refugees. We've never had to be. We chose to be.

We can choose differently. Now.
________________

Actually it's the kind of statement made by somebody who has lived an hour from the Mexican border for decades and is very familiar with the situation there.

And if sufficient numbers choose to swarm, we won't be able to stop them. That's simply a fact, whether you choose to accept it or not.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (k4dH2)

423 The vietnamese are the independent Appalachian scotch-irish of Asia,.

I knew a lot in tech on the coasts, and they were all lovely people.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (LWu6U)

424 "Zipperhead" is slang for soldier in the Royal Canadian Armoured Corps. I had no idea about the other meaning.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (/+bwe)

425 * se. Smh.

Posted by: cornbred at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (A751K)

426 397 Yes, yes I do. Particularly the Harvard professor and the manhunt for the Chinese military woman who was posing as a Boston university student.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:27 PM (bDqIh)

Literally anyone -could- claim they were part of a deliberate attempt by the Chinese military to infect America. I'm a virulent chicom hater and even I don't think that! But it is the most obvious explanation.

If you think the last four years were a gift to demagogy, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (0HpOW)

You should look into reading books written by Chinese military on their post 9/11 strategy of Asymmetrical Warfare and going all in with Biowarfare instead of nukes to defeat the west. There are speeches and papers out there too. They don't hide this fact.

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (MRjKr)

427 422
And if sufficient numbers choose to swarm, we won't be able to stop them. That's simply a fact, whether you choose to accept it or not.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (k4dH2)

=========

I imagine that largely depends on the local supply of Claymores.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (zZbCU)

428 This is not who were are, my friendsh!

Posted by: Zombie Senor Juan McCain at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (EgshT)

429 Vallely is Army.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (N+GSq)

430 When that happened I would shout "Charlie's in the wire!"

They never said a word to us and it took me three years to figure out why.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)

I don't get it

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM

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We did the audio tour of the U505 in the museum in Chicago back in the 80s with our son.

After 30 minutes near the end of the tour my wife turned around to me and said...."oh, it's a German submarine".

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (JUOKG)

431 Who exactly does fund Mark Levin? Rush Limbaugh is particularly reliant on his GOP voters, and I always thought he pulled himself up to greatness. But Mark Levin merged CRTV with Glenn Beck's operation.... and that guy was a Hillary loving dry drunk who blew apart his business empire. So that's a huge red flag to me no matter what else he's done. And given CRTV's incredibly shabby treatment of Mark Steyn, that is quite a bit of else.

Mark Levin was the president of Landmark Legal Foundation which actively represents clients regarding constitutional issues. He is now the Chairman of the BOD, which includes Ed Meese and other prominent conservative legal minds.
https://www.landmarklegal.org/people

He has eight best selling books, has his daily radio show that is paid for by advertising ( as Rush refers to it, obscene profit centers) , has his weekly television show on Fox.

Not sure why you think he is getting money from bad sources. He's been a lawyer for 30 years, in private practice , then in the Reagan administration in various posts in the DOJ. Then back into the private practice with Landmark, then he began his radio show after his books became popular.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (hhYtz)

432
What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

Lunch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jinx Falkenburg at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (8KSPd)

433 >>Court documents allege Mr Lieber, who has worked as the head investigator at the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, received more than $15m (£11.5m) in grants from the US National Institute of Health and the US Department of Defence.
Recipients of these grants have to disclose any conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or organisations.
However in 2011, allegedly without Harvard's knowledge, Mr Lieber joined Wuhan University of Technology in China as a scientist.

https://tinyurl.com/uk8f97l

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

434 So what's the deal?
Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:24 PM (0HpOW)

Don't forget - National Review spiked Mark Steyn as well. Also John Derbyshire. And Coulter. They have been getting purgier over the past 2 decades, but Buckley was pretty prickly himself to begin with.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (w+Ped)

435 And if sufficient numbers choose to swarm, we won't be able to stop
them. That's simply a fact, whether you choose to accept it or not.

***

I believe our landmine technology can rise to the task....

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (WdocV)

436 The push started long ago. There is big money, influence, and an agenda behind Ben Shapiro. I'll just leave it at that.

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (MRjKr)

Oh I believe it. I always thought he'd peak as a teenager, but he keeps failing upward despite having almost zero noteworthy accomplishments about him otherwise. If you told me Keyser Soze was backing him, I'd believe you instantly. That kid has taken the devil's ticket, no doubt about it.

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (0HpOW)

437 "Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 03, 2020 03:19 PM (JUOKG)"

OK that's hilarious.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (VpIIl)

438 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

A soft, fluffy creature considered "dinner" in China.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 03:32 PM (ptqGC)

Ssshhhh! My cats are listening.

But seriously, you know they're still trying to figure out what other critter in the market was a likely source for the outbreak. Apparently that's a consideration, in that one mammal with the virus would not in and of itself be an indicator of a virus that will jump to humans.

But a second mammal....

Cats AND dogs are, indeed, candidates. And the Chinese aren't saying. Because of course they aren't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (hku12)

439 I don't get it
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

"Charlie" was slang for Viet Cong.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 03, 2020 03:28 PM

AKA Mr Charles.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (axyOa)

440 As for Mexicans rushing the border, I am not worried about it. We are in a lot better shape there than we were under Bobo, et al. The other reality is this, we put an announcement in Spanish and English on a loop proclaiming that rushing the border will NOT get them medical care because the hospitals are full. Then if they still do it, claymores and machine guns are up. Yes, I think we should do that, because our hospitals are full and we don't need a mutated strain coming in and making things worse.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (kXoT0)

441 @408There was a big push behind Meghan Markle, too. Interesting that they can't find better stooges.

Posted by: artemis at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (AwPyG)

442 So if that's true, why do the radio bosses replace popular hosts like Savage with unpopular ones like Shapiro?

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:33 PM (0HpOW)
I honestly cant decide if I would rather listen to Shapiro or the Savage Weiner talk about his fucking meatballs.

Posted by: Corn Fed at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (EA1BR)

443 also, Charlie don't surf !!!

Posted by: guy who tries but misremembers history at April 03, 2020 03:37 PM (8KSPd)

444 High marks on this one, Ace. That's not phoning it in. That kicking ass and taking hyphenated names.

Posted by: Orson at April 03, 2020 03:37 PM (aoEI9)

445 Well, I didn't care for John McCain after he shut down his campaign during the financial scare, and I liked him less when he obviously was involved in peddling the Steele dossier, but even I don't think That "the Conservative Inc Grifter Class" (although that's a very good phrase, Ace) prays to John McCain. If they're ostensibly RC, they wouldn't regard him as being a Saint-maybe just a "fine American" and the others who are religious but not RC or Eastern Orthodox wouldn't pray to Saints anyway. And people who have a high regard for Saints don't pray TO them-they ask for prayers of intercession to God FROM them-kind of like the way someone might ask someone who is really admirable, worthy person to put in a good word for you with "The Big Guy" the CEO they well know the CEO manager. In this case the CEO is God, That's not the best analogy because all people can go to God directly, but the communion of Saints is partially about Saints continuing their work in the life beyond this life and part of that is praying for Christian to become closer to Godl. Yes, I belabored that point-sorry-but if people regard McCain as a Saint they're not RC and they're probably not using the word Saint in the way that St Paul does as "committed followers of Christ" although he may have been a Christian and has long met God, of course.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2020 03:37 PM (WI7YS)

446 And if sufficient numbers choose to swarm, we won't be able to stop
them. That's simply a fact, whether you choose to accept it or not.

***

I believe our landmine technology can rise to the task....

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM

***
Nothing beats foogas in the morning.
Or even at night!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2020 03:37 PM (axyOa)

447 WTF is up with Laura Ingram showing a David French Tweet last night and holding him up as if he's some sage conservative? That shows going to shit too.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:38 PM (VpIIl)

448 Seen slobs wearing a mask like a neckbeard, mouth n nose uncovered coughing without even a hand cover. On a bus.
Another with it's bugger hooks in nose, mouth, then holding the bus rails.
THERE OUGHTA BE A BOUNTY

Posted by: getting the deathwish banned back for 70s revival at April 03, 2020 03:38 PM (QYDRb)

449 What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)

We no see you cat!!

Posted by: Wu Fong Buffet at April 03, 2020 03:38 PM (88+cf)

450 >>The push started long ago. There is big money, influence, and an agenda behind Ben Shapiro. I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah, that seems likely. He's just like NRO and The Bulwark.

Who is funding him?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:39 PM (bDqIh)

451 Cat? Isn't that a Chinese dish with water chestnuts?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2020 03:39 PM (VpIIl)

452 I blame you lot.

I saw this headline from NBC on FB:

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend's daughter and grandson missing in canoeing accident

And my first thought was they must have lost all their guns!

It's terrible, really. I know. But it's your fault.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2020 03:39 PM (ZfRYq)

453 But a second mammal....

Cats AND dogs are, indeed, candidates. And the Chinese aren't saying. Because of course they aren't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (hku12)

In those damned wet markets, cats and dogs are skinned alive and cooked alive. Both species would be screaming and spitting until they expired, which makes them a perfect species to species disease vector.

I may be a h8ter, but, if all the Chinese working in those wet markets get Wuhan and die, I wouldn't shed a tear.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (kXoT0)

454 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM (Oqufv)
*************
AYFKM? Shit this is never going to end.
I suppose Houston will do the same.
F*ck China!
F*ck the Democrats!

Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (wiXsO)

455 AOC on Cuomo suspending foreclosures and mortgage payments as well as evictions for nonpayment of rent:

And when you hold one standard where we're being more generous to mortgagers, or rather people who are receiving mortgages, than you are on people who are renters, which is two-thirds of New York City, we're kind of creating a class and race issue. We're essentially rewarding and offering preferential treatment to landowners and folks who are more wealthy, and we're not offering that same kind of relief to renters.

1: New York is more than NYC
2: Landlords are not banks, you stupid bitch.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (dNzKv)

456 194

Wiki calls the Spanish Flu the "1918 Flu Epidemic" or the very generic "Deadly Influenza Epidemic."

The Spanish Flu lasted several years in waves.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 02:56 PM

Just watched the movie "Outbreak" last night on Netflix. I think they referred to it as "the 1918 Flu Epidemic" in the movie too.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (Do5/p)

457 You know what has really surprised me about all this?

How many people have been revealed to be two bit grifters relying on our continued gullibility.

I knew there were a number of them, I just didn't realize how many there actually were.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 03, 2020 02:42 PM (WEBkv)

It makes me sad (and not a little angry) that I wasted so much of my time reading National Review and the Weekly Standard. Supporting GHWB and Dole, defending W from the slings and arrows coming from my NYC and LA friends, backing McCain and Romney, etc, etc, etc.

Thankfully, I didn't buy Liberal Fascism, but read it in a library. I did, however follow blogs like Patterico, Brothers Judd Blog, NRO Corner, and many others. I'm thankful that they got me to a place where I learned to engage with others in political discussions, and impress my friends with my newfound erudition on 'conservatism'.

A lot of scales fell from my eyes, starting on 8 Nov 2016.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 03, 2020 03:41 PM (iuFgi)

458
3. Righties hire based on merit, but lefties only hire each other. Eventually entire organizations become leftist.
Posted by: ... at April 03, 2020 03:31 PM (T+/KY)

There's an ironic joke in that crap Meryl Streep movie Julie and Julia where Amy Adams is getting chewed out for not producing in her writing job and her boss closes by yelling "if I were a Republican you'd have already been fired!"

Of course, the joke was supposed to be about how heartless and cruel Republicans are, but it really showed how leftists are a bunch of fucking incompetents.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 03, 2020 03:41 PM (EGyGV)

459 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.

Heh.

Posted by: Moving Goalposts at April 03, 2020 03:41 PM (EgshT)

460

Is Outbreak the movie with Ratso Rizzo?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:41 PM (yDBK2)

461 *************
AYFKM? Shit this is never going to end.
I suppose Houston will do the same.
F*ck China!
F*ck the Democrats!

Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (wiXsO)

Don't forget G. Soros and P. Omidyar

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:41 PM (N+GSq)

462 Not sure why you think he is getting money from bad sources. He's been a lawyer for 30 years, in private practice , then in the Reagan administration in various posts in the DOJ. Then back into the private practice with Landmark, then he began his radio show after his books became popular.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 03:35 PM (hhYtz)

Is that enough money to fund CRTV? I doubt it. And I doubt that's enough money to buy out Beck's outfit even after it was run into the ground. This is what I'm talking about- I can accept that Mark Levin is popular among conservatives, even enough to build his own small media empire. But that popular? If someone said "hey, these are the partners that made CRTV happen" I would accept it. I even admit that Michelle Malkin probably invested a large amount into CRTV, and cashed in an even larger amount- she's off enjoying her insane fortune, no doubt, and more power to her. But where did the money to buy her out come from?

Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:42 PM (0HpOW)

463 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.

Police cars are about to get flipped...

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at April 03, 2020 03:42 PM (pyXq5)

464 Don't trust Ramesh. Ramesh is asshoe.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 03, 2020 03:42 PM (ykYG2)

465 459 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.

Heh.

Posted by: Moving Goalposts at April 03, 2020 03:41 PM (EgshT)

Trump opens the doors May 1,
Abbott will tell those county judges, LOLGF.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:43 PM (N+GSq)

466
296 I listen to Cuomo, and the way he whines on -- I think maybe he is the Fredo. I don't know, I never saw his brother, but the gov. does not appear very smart or charismatic.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 03, 2020 03:12 PM (LWu6U)

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I think Governor Cuomo corresponds to the perverted Hollywood producer who wouldn't cast a Corleone family friend in his movies, and ended up with the head of his prize racehorse in his bed.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 03, 2020 03:43 PM (9k6MI)

467 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2020 03:37 PM (WI7YS)

I think you are taking the Patron Saint reference way too literally.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:43 PM (w+Ped)

468 Have you heard of a single state suspending or delaying property taxes? I haven't.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 03, 2020 03:43 PM (JKNZq)

469 But a second mammal....

Cats AND dogs are, indeed, candidates. And the Chinese aren't saying. Because of course they aren't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (hku12)

In those damned wet markets, cats and dogs are skinned alive and cooked alive. Both species would be screaming and spitting until they expired, which makes them a perfect species to species disease vector.

I may be a h8ter, but, if all the Chinese working in those wet markets get Wuhan and die, I wouldn't shed a tear.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (kXoT0)

I know PJ Watson is not to everyone's taste, but he did a video in January on this topic.

The gist of his message is "some cultures are better than others."

Yep.

Here's the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM_hRWVNcMk

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:43 PM (hku12)

470

Nearly the entire outbreak in NY came from a traveler from Iran, a place
that was supposed to have a travel ban, but thanks to lower courts
continuing to militate against Scotus decision, it was rendered moot.

Posted by: Christian Amanpour at April 03, 2020 03:43 PM (3aI0K)

471 Two Scoops tweeting about XL Pipeline going ahead.

Will Justine kibosh this as part of the brewing war with the US?

Inquiring minds haven't thought to ask.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:44 PM (El6T/)

472 ....if we were to build this giant wooden badger......

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2020 03:44 PM (d7Ww2)

473 Local guvamint not suspending property tax deadline (next week), but implying a very generous appeals process will be applied to those with hardship stories. So - if true - same-same.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (El6T/)

474 472 ....if we were to build this giant wooden badger......
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2020 03:44 PM (d7Ww2)

==========

Fetchez la vache.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (zZbCU)

475 Thought they had completed the XL Pipeline

Posted by: Braenyard at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (N+GSq)

476 I give a bit more allowance to people in poorer regions eating what they can actually catch/afford...but not killing something quickly before you prepare it is just wrong.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (WdocV)

477 SCOTUS will be postponing oral arguments for the April session due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and are considering rescheduling some cases before the term ends depending on conditions

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (iTXRQ)

478 Christopher Cross Tests Positive for Coronavirus: "Worst Illness I've Ever Had"

Posted by: Christian Amanpour at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (3aI0K)

479 There was a big push behind Meghan Markle, too. Interesting that they can't find better stooges.
Posted by: artemis at April 03, 2020 03:36 PM (AwPyG)

The Queen ruthlessly scraped that one off her dainty shoe, now, didn't she? I am pretty sure that while she is fond of Prince Harry, she did have his DNA discretely tested due to his uncanny resemblance to Princess Diana's friend and riding instructor, James Hewitt.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (kXoT0)

480 Id rather have Meggie Mac sit on my face than watch the lying bastard Juan video.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (o2MD2)

481 450 >>The push started long ago. There is big money, influence, and an agenda behind Ben Shapiro. I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah, that seems likely. He's just like NRO and The Bulwark.

Who is funding him?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2020 03:39 PM (bDqIh)

NeoCons.

Posted by: it begins... at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (MRjKr)

482 Just like 5 minutes after the WTC fell, Bush was like "Awww shit, that fucking Osama Bin Laden!" and we were like, "Who? What?"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

We were watching in real time that morning on a little TV set at work, and I uttered the name "Osama Bin Laden", and at least a couple of people nodded in agreement.

We didn't know who Khalid Sheik Mohammed was, but there were people who knew who Ramzi Yusef was, as he was then cooling his heals in the Supermax prison in Colorado. And....still is.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (vcOmj)

483 There are reports that Ecuador is being hit hard, and that its medical
system is already overwhelmed. Also reports of bodies lying unclaimed
in the streets, as the morgues are full.

Anybody who thinks our border won't get swarmed if the virus hits Mexico hard has not been paying attention for decades.
---
It's a shame we don't have an army or something to deal with issues like that.

Posted by: Methos at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (kOpft)

484
Quick question: I've never had a dependent before, but I will before 2021. Am I required to claim the baby as a dependent?

I usually fill out a "0" for that, so I can deny my essence to the federal government (which deserves to perish in a maelstrom of blood, tears, and fire).

Can I continue this practice, or does the baby force me to give them an interest-free loan to help fill up their bottomless pit of perfidy?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (II2Y0)

485 and about the favorite Fawlty Towers episode,

mine is the one with the "rat."

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)

486 >>I give a bit more allowance to people in poorer regions eating what they can actually catch/afford...but not killing something quickly before you prepare it is just wrong.

Preach!

Posted by: A lobster at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (ZLI7S)

487 459 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.

fuck Clay Jenkins

Posted by: x at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (nFwvY)

488 but thanks to lower courts

continuing to militate against Scotus decision, it was rendered moot.
***

Doesn't that mean every small business/blue collar worker in NY state has a case against said judges?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (WdocV)

489 I'm having my HVAC system replaced on Monday. Hate that I have to have people in my house right now but they have a Coronavirus preventative plan in place so at least I know they are just as concerned.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (YT5Rb)

490 Walter Ian Lipkin, professor of epidemiology at Columbia University, known as a "virus hunter," revealed in an interview on Fox Business Network that he has tested positive for the CCP virus on March 24. Lipkin is the director of Columbia University's Center for Infection and Immunity, and has earned the reputation of a "virus hunter" for his efficiency and innovative methods of identifying new viruses

Posted by: Christian Amanpour at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (3aI0K)

491

What's that song that goes "ailing?"

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (yDBK2)

492 Dallas County extends Stay-At-Home Order until May 20th.
-------------------------------
Lucky you.
Ours runs to June 10.

Posted by: Commonwealth of Virginia at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (M/9m0)

493 Yep, "moving goalposts". All of them have been moving - in both directions - based on new data.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (El6T/)

494 I think Rizzo was in Grease.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (r+sAi)

495 But where did the money to buy her out come from?
Posted by: trev006 at April 03, 2020 03:42 PM (0HpOW)

Umm, loans and silent investors?

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (hhYtz)

496 Every new stay at home order lengthens my jail sentence

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (ZCEU2)

497 223 We cuss Barry - Hell, I cuss Barry all the time - but let's give the devil his due.

He had the good sense to look at the H1N1 numbers and say - Fuck it, big country. People die.

Or, he was just too high to notice. Either way, I'll take it.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:00 PM

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (Do5/p)

498 Soon to be willowed I think.

Oregon governor wants a Chinese flu special session any doubts that her stopped Cap and Trade obsession will somehow related to this crisis?

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (y0S2P)

499
Ailing takes me away?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (yDBK2)

500 cut taxes. raise tariffs

Posted by: x at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (nFwvY)

501 And if sufficient numbers choose to swarm, we won't be able to stop them. That's simply a fact, whether you choose to accept it or not.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 03, 2020 03:34 PM (k4dH2)

Oh - we can. Use the right words.

Some of us can. You simply won't.

That's the simple fact that's been ignored for far too long.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (GoNER)

502 Cats AND dogs are, indeed, candidates. And the Chinese aren't saying. Because of course they aren't.
Posted by: BurtTC

The original SARS in 2002 came from civet cats being raised for eating (in China). Likely bitten by bats in a similar kind of situation, where all these live animals are caged for sale for food, and stacked on top of each other.

That was SARS Cov1. The present outbreak is SARS Cov2, which causes Covid19, what we are living through.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (vcOmj)

503 We have no stay at home order which is good because fuck you.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 03, 2020 03:48 PM (o2MD2)

504 There are reports that Ecuador is being hit hard, and that its medical

system is already overwhelmed.
***

According to the internets (I know I know) there have been 145 Wuhan flu deaths in Ecuador.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 03:49 PM (WdocV)

505 I usually fill out a "0" for that, so I can deny my essence to the federal government (which deserves to perish in a maelstrom of blood, tears, and fire).

Can I continue this practice, or does the baby force me to give them an interest-free loan to help fill up their bottomless pit of perfidy?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (II2Y0)

I thought the higher the number, the lower the withholding - doesn't claiming a dependent allow you to withhold *more*?

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:49 PM (w+Ped)

506 Christopher Cross Tests Positive for Coronavirus: "Worst Illness I've Ever Had"
Posted by: Christian Amanpour at April 03, 2020 03:45 PM (3aI0K)

Had? He's recovered?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 03, 2020 03:49 PM (YT5Rb)

507 Can I continue this practice, or does the baby force me to give them an interest-free loan to help fill up their bottomless pit of perfidy?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (II2Y0)

A dependent gives you a tax deduction. What interest free loan are you talking about?

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 03:49 PM (hhYtz)

508 I think Rizzo was in Grease.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (r+sAi)

My wife met Stockard Channing years ago. Said she was an absolute sweetheart.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (x8Wzq)

509

AILING TAKES ME AWAY

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (yDBK2)

510 He had the good sense to look at the H1N1 numbers and say - Fuck it, big country. People die.

___

Let me be clear, as I've always said, if old white people are dying you give them a pain pill.

Posted by: Baracky Obama at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (WdocV)

511 "And I doubt that's enough money to buy out Beck's outfit even after it was run into the ground."

He bought Beck's thing, or did Beck become a partner? idk, but I thought it was more of a consolidation deal ... maybe because bother were failing. But I'm guessing, didn't know the details were public.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (Cus5s)

512
Midnight Cowboy, anyone?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (yDBK2)

513

NOOOODD

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (yDBK2)

514 nude media

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (d7Ww2)

515
I thought the higher the number, the lower the withholding - doesn't claiming a dependent allow you to withhold *more*?
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:49 PM (w+Ped)

------

I don't know how it works, which is why I ask - when you're single w/ no dependents, but you claim yourself (1) they withhold more than if you claim none.

I just hate them with every fiber of my being, and want to keep as much money out of their sticky fingers as I can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (II2Y0)

516 Well done.

Not much to add but one observation, trivial in a way but not. Every time they tried to run through one of these treasonous, anti-American amnestys, the cucks would claim the beneficiaries would be required to learn English. Even so, they promoted bilingual (if not Spanish-only) education, government forms, and business language.

And here's the kicker: NOT ONE SINGLE ENGLISH INSTRUCTOR EVER WAS HIRED TO TEACH THESE LEGALIZED ILLEGALS ENGLISH. NOT ONE.

I don't ever use caps but that deserves it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (puu6v)

517 Hey you guys, Boss man gots something he wants to say upstairs.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (y0S2P)

518 Just started 7 Samurai on TCM on demand

Posted by: Skip at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (ZCEU2)

519 >>This wasn't because we loved Trump.

>>It's because we had been betrayed, abused, lied to, and sold out by the
>>current leadership, and were willing to take the chance on anyone who was >>not from this coterie of proven liars and traitors.
>>
The further I get away from holding my nose and voting for Bush, Romney and McCain, the less likely I am to forgive those who pushed such candidates on us for not doing the same. I don't need Bill Kristol and his ilk to become Trump loyalists...but for fuck's sake, at least acknowledge what the president has accomplished instead of shilling for Hillary and Biden...
Someone once said Conservatism is a big tent.

True.
But there's no re-entry after they tried to burn it down.
They can all fuck off. And when they get there, they con fuck off from that location as well.

Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at April 03, 2020 03:51 PM (0jZvB)

520 Florida's death count from COVID-19 likely stands significantly higher
than the official number, indicating the disease is taking a more severe
toll than thought, according to interviews with experts and information
from local officials.

Reuters did this kind of reporting in Iraq and was banned for a month.

Posted by: Christian Amanpour at April 03, 2020 03:52 PM (3aI0K)

521 "So if that's true, why do the radio bosses replace popular hosts like Savage with unpopular ones like Shapiro?"

Because we provide valuable information that people can understand, like my friends at CNN.

Posted by: Erik Errorkson at April 03, 2020 03:52 PM (Tnijr)

522 I usually fill out a "0" for that, so I can deny my essence to the federal government (which deserves to perish in a maelstrom of blood, tears, and fire).

Can I continue this practice, or does the baby force me to give them an interest-free loan to help fill up their bottomless pit of perfidy?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:46 PM (II2Y0)

Afraid you've confused me here. Claiming zero when you have more than zero dependents means you give more to the government every paycheck. To your question though, you do not need to claim dependents that you actually have (and I'm assuming you mean on your W4) if you don't want to. Going the other way can be problematic, the IRS does not like that.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 03, 2020 03:52 PM (GhGb5)

523 511 "And I doubt that's enough money to buy out Beck's outfit even after it was run into the ground."

He bought Beck's thing, or did Beck become a partner? idk, but I thought it was more of a consolidation deal ... maybe because bother were failing. But I'm guessing, didn't know the details were public.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (Cus5s)

The Blaze bought CR. CR tried to F over Mark Steyn, and sued him - Steyn won and CR was ordered to ay court costs.

Do not trust CR.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 03, 2020 03:52 PM (w+Ped)

524 >>... if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.

That is profound.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2020 03:52 PM (xoAW1)

525 >>Just started 7 Samurai

One of the ten best movies ever made. I have the criterion disc and have practically worn it out.

Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at April 03, 2020 03:53 PM (0jZvB)

526 >>According to the internets (I know I know) there have been 145 Wuhan flu deaths in Ecuador.

I'm not sure the number of deaths is the best indicator of what's happening. There are bodies lying in the streets of Guayaquil.

https://tinyurl.com/w66qp8n

Posted by: A lobster at April 03, 2020 03:53 PM (ZLI7S)

527
1: New York is more than NYC

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 03, 2020 03:40 PM (dNzKv)

You lie.

Posted by: Governor Tit Ring Cuomo at April 03, 2020 03:53 PM (EGyGV)

528 >>... if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.

Paraphrased from 'Rounders': "If you sit down at a table [to play poker] and within a half hour you can't tell who the mark is, the mark is you."

Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at April 03, 2020 03:54 PM (0jZvB)

529 I just hate them with every fiber of my being, and want to keep as much money out of their sticky fingers as I can.

Then go opposite of what you are told. Structure your shit so that you pay a small amount via a check you write and tax time.

A refund is just an interest free loan you make to Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: I Am No One at April 03, 2020 03:54 PM (GoNER)

530 Afraid you've confused me here. Claiming zero when you have more than zero dependents means you give more to the government every paycheck. To your question though, you do not need to claim dependents that you actually have (and I'm assuming you mean on your W4) if you don't want to. Going the other way can be problematic, the IRS does not like that.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 03, 2020 03:52 PM (GhGb5)

------

Yeah, I always do my own taxes, and don't really get it.

What I know is... when I've claimed myself as a dependent, I got a tax refund. When I stopped doing that, I got like a 5$ refund. I just don't like lending them money.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:56 PM (II2Y0)

531 494 I think Rizzo was in Grease.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM (r+sAi)
----------------------
Um, no. He's always been on first.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 03, 2020 03:57 PM (M/9m0)

532
Paraphrased from 'Rounders': "If you sit down at a table [to play poker] and within a half hour you can't tell who the mark is, the mark is you."
Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at April 03, 2020 03:54 PM (0jZvB)

Funniest part about that movie is that when it gets broadcast, they bleep out all the f-bombs, but they leave in all the parts where Teddy KGB says "yob tvoyo maht". Which is Russian for "fuck your mother".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 03, 2020 03:57 PM (EGyGV)

533 Nude.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2020 03:58 PM (xoAW1)

534 Maybe I've got it all backwards.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:59 PM (II2Y0)

535 398 I don't get it
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 03, 2020 03:26 PM (G546f)

"Charlie" was slang for Viet Cong.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

In the wire was them at the perimeter of your encampment.

Way too close. Bad juju.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2020 03:29 PM (Oqufv)

What's a "cat."

Somebody explain this to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM (hku12)
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Burt! Thanks for the laugh.

I also didn't know the " in the wire" part

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 03, 2020 03:59 PM (IDhUW)

536 Yeah, I always do my own taxes, and don't really get it.
What I know is... when I've claimed myself as a dependent, I got a tax refund. When I stopped doing that, I got like a 5$ refund. I just don't like lending them money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 03:56 PM (II2Y0)

You can't compare year to year like that. The IRS is always changing the withholding tables, generally in an effort to avoid having to pay out lots of refund checks in April.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 03, 2020 03:59 PM (GhGb5)

537
I'm not sure the number of deaths is the best indicator of what's happening. There are bodies lying in the streets of Guayaquil.

***

Pretty sure there are bodies laying in the streets of many Latin American cities on any given day.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2020 04:00 PM (WdocV)

538 Our public school system is offering the kiddies free meals dropped off via school buses. Don't want the parental units to have to actually drive to the schools to pick up the free meals.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 03, 2020 02:37 PM (ptqGC)

Drivers are probably unionized.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 03, 2020 04:00 PM (qyH+l)

539 You can't compare year to year like that. The IRS is always changing the withholding tables, generally in an effort to avoid having to pay out lots of refund checks in April.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 03, 2020 03:59 PM (GhGb5)

------

Of course. Self-dealing skinflints that they are.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 04:01 PM (II2Y0)

540 4:28

If we could so lucky that all traitors meet the same fate.

Posted by: mossomo at April 03, 2020 04:06 PM (JDQjD)

541 >>Pretty sure there are bodies laying in the streets of many Latin American cities on any given day.

If you read the article, the mayor seems to disagree with you. She's worried about her healthcare industry.

I've been to South America many times and I've never seen bodies lying in the streets.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 03, 2020 04:07 PM (ZLI7S)

542 Why You Should Flush With The Lid Down: Experts Warn Of Fecal-Oral Transmission Of COVID-19

Posted by: Christian Amanpour at April 03, 2020 04:07 PM (3aI0K)

543 And I doubt that's enough money to buy out Beck's outfit even after it was run into the ground."

He bought Beck's thing, or did Beck become a partner? idk, but I thought it was more of a consolidation deal ... maybe because bother were failing. But I'm guessing, didn't know the details were public.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 03, 2020 03:50 PM (Cus5s)

I just spent some time looking this up. Levin was the editor in chief of Conservative Review. He left that position after his new Fox TV show was created. Conservative Review is now owned by Blaze TV, which lists the following individuals as staff members. https://www.theblaze.com/masthead

The Blaze is owned by Mercury Radio Arts. And Mercury Radio Arts is owned by...Glenn Beck.

I don't believe Beck and Levin are partners or business associates. Beck bought CR and I don't know if Levin had any ownership in it, or was just the editor and contributor.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 04:09 PM (hhYtz)

544
Of course. Self-dealing skinflints that they are.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2020 04:01 PM (II2Y0)

Because the laws change the tax rates. Often tax rate increases or decreases or those it affects are spread out over several years. New deductions and removal of old deductions are done in different years.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2020 04:11 PM (hhYtz)

545 That ad is McCain's true legacy. It shows you just how big a lying piece of shit he was.

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 03, 2020 04:34 PM (50gG9)

546 494 I think Rizzo was in Grease.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2020 03:47 PM

I thought he played on the 1980 US Olympic Hockey Team.

Now he plays first base for the Chicago Cubs.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 03, 2020 04:36 PM (Do5/p)

547 Fox2!

School Bus drivers are usually hourly employees, subject to firing at will, and not reimbursement of unused sick leave.

My BIL knows how to code, does a great IT job, but was a male in a Feminist-led college. He ws eased out, and became a school bus driver.

He is unemployed. Drivers with connections are used to deliver the food to central locations. It is an attempt to not lose bus drivers, who are very hard to replace. The reason is the increasing number of requirements they need to meet, all for fairly low pay.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 03, 2020 04:37 PM (u82oZ)

548 398

What's a "cat."

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2020 03:30 PM

Is it dead?!

Posted by: David Della Rocco at April 03, 2020 04:41 PM (Do5/p)

549 Cannot believe I voted for Juan McLiarpants...ugh. He's Joe Biden territory and I didn't see until now.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at April 03, 2020 05:32 PM (LIhNq)

550 When I read "The goal is to minimize the exposure to the alien, agent and our country," I hear The goal is to minimize the exposure to the alien, the xeno, and the heretic."

Posted by: Ingot9455 at April 03, 2020 05:41 PM (7I0w0)

551 This post is a PERFECT example why the term "thought leader" is stupid, and a warning: if you NEED a "thought leader", if such a thing exists...

NO ONE IS THINKING.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 03, 2020 10:20 PM (Exv3s)

552 Loud and Proud Ace. LOUD AND PROUD !!!

Posted by: Ray Mota at April 04, 2020 02:11 PM (AVxHd)

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