Stimulate This, Democrats

Note: I wrote this yesterday.

If we're going to do this stimulus thing, then we should just do it, and Trump should use the power of the bully pulpit to back Congress into the corner. Trump should hold a prime time address to the nation, during which he should cover the following:

#1 What we're doing and why. Explain how social distancing slows the spread of a disease. Use visual aids. I saw a gif the other day that was very effective at illustration this. First it showed a typical 1 person infects 2 others progression, then it broke the chain at just a few points – and the total number of cases was halved. People are visual learners, that one gif more effectively illustrated the point than a dozen speeches could.

#2 Update the country on where we are. Tell them that (as of this writing) less than 700 people have died nationwide, and almost half (314) of those are in just 4 states (NY, NJ, La and Wa). Emphasize how he's working with the governors of those hotspot states to contain the problem.

#3 Reiterate the temporary nature of the current restrictions and closings, and that the focus of his administration is to return things to normal as soon as humanly possible, without endangering large numbers of vulnerable people.

#4 In recognition of the economic impact these measures are causing, call on Congress to send him 2 bills. Demand clean bills. Hell, if I was the President, I'd say flat out “If these bills come to my desk larded up with provisions for card check union elections or money to restart production of the F-22, I will veto them AND I'll tell the public exactly why. This is not the time for business as usual and pork as far as the eye can see. Ladies and gentlemen, we here in Washington need to remember that we work for the people of the United States, and in times of crisis they have every right to demand that we do just that, and not to engage in petty partisan political bullshit”. If you're going to throw down a gauntlet, you might as well throw down an iron one.

#5 Bill number one will provide for an immediate payment of $1000 from the federal government to every man woman and child in America. A website will be set up where people can claim their bailouts. These payments will be made on the first of the month by either direct deposit or prepaid debit card (you choose) for the months of April, May and June ONLY. I will sign no bill that provides for payments beyond the month of June. If this emergency situation continues beyond the month of June, Congress will have to draft separate legislation to deal with the long term impact of the Wuhan Flu. This money will be reported on (new 1099 form whatever), when filing your 2020 taxes if your AGI (exclusive of this one time bailout) is less than 100K (200K for married filing jointly), this money will not count as taxable income. If your AGI is greater than those amounts, it must be repaid in full.

#6 Bill number 2 will provide relief for the small businesses if America. Any small business (less than 50 employees) which was forced to close or limit operations because of quarantine orders may apply to receive a relief check equal to 3 months average operating expenses (rent, equipment, payroll, etc – basically anything taken as a write off on a schedule C or equivalent form). These averages shall be determined by operating expenses from the months of December, January and February ( or April, May and June of 2019 at the business owner's discretion – a seasonal business may choose that option). These relief payments are contingent on the business remaining viable – IOW continuing to meet payroll, pay their rent, etc..Any business that limited operations (for example a restaurant that stopped dine in but continued carry out service) is entitled to this relief proportional to the reduction in business. The objective here is to keep the business afloat while they are close so that they can just open their doors again when this is over.

#7 The speech should conclude with the usual “all in it together”, “Nothing to fear but fear itself” boilerplate that's been a staple of presidential speech forever.

Look, I'm not saying that a bailout is the best idea. I'm not saying it isn't. But it certainly looks like there's one coming, and Trump should get out in front of it, set the parameters, and pin the onus on getting it done on Congress, and do it in such a way that makes Congress the bad guy if they try to play their usual little reindeer games.

Posted by: WeirdDave at 04:15 PM




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1 Weird.

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 04:16 PM (QE8X6)

2 Send me the money.

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 04:17 PM (QE8X6)

3 Hi Caliban!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Is Sponsoring Methcalibur - The Musical!! at March 25, 2020 04:17 PM (FJL6J)

4 Top 10!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (8Ls/+)

5 Just kidding.

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (QE8X6)

6 Set my people free!

Posted by: Count de MAGA at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (q1Pj5)

7 Top 10 again!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (8Ls/+)

8 Those are sane and rational proposals.

Thus none of it will ever happen.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (mf5HN)

9 Third time?

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (8Ls/+)

10 Yes!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (8Ls/+)

11 I like it!

Posted by: Donny Brook at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (J9A97)

12 long read! This is NOT Ace.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (vEIlU)

13 Mikey! Where you been?

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 04:18 PM (QE8X6)

14 Oh, are we on the 100 comment rule?

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (8Ls/+)

15

NOT a movie review.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (vEIlU)

16 I just love that new thread smell!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (8Ls/+)

17 half the people working for Trump are probably telling him that the presidential thing to do is just going along with whatever gets through the Congress. Mr President, learn from other great presidents like George H W Bush, and that kind of thing.

Posted by: mallfly of the Lamamoors at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (4a9Vv)

18 Sanders is holding up the bill for tougher language having to do with $500 B to corporations.

Also, Manchin got schooled by the War Turtle is is backpeddling on Cavuto

Posted by: Blutarski at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (VNfwt)

19 Trump will rise above whatever happens. Forefront of everyone's mind is making their next mortgage payment, keeping afloat, staying healthy, taking care of theirs, and hoping the country's engine can spark back up again.

Democrat games are going to look smaller than usual the rest of the year. What are they going to do, impeach him again?

Trump let the DNC and enemedia use their barrels of ink to paint themselves into the most predictable corner imaginable. There's no escape. They can't triangulate. And he let them pay for the ink!!

Posted by: ... at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (uEbPt)

20 Dave thinks Democrats can read.

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 04:19 PM (QE8X6)

21 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 25, 2020 04:20 PM (UWqZJ)

22 so... goid movie?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 25, 2020 04:20 PM (G546f)

23 VERY VERY interesting take I the WSJ in re Wuhan flu, explaining that the death rate is actual MUCH lower than reported because most of the cases are asymptomatic:

https://tinyurl.com/tph3lyu

Still arguing with my sister about this.

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 25, 2020 04:20 PM (T09ml)

24 Dave's not here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 25, 2020 04:20 PM (NWiLs)

25 Is there going to be a coronavirus press briefing today?

Posted by: IC at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (a0IVu)

26 This is not the time for business as usual and pork as far as the eye can see.
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+1
Throw the congress under the bus whenever possible, until they start doing something helpful.

Posted by: Methos at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (kOpft)

27 No mention of people of color or carbon offsets? For shame!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (YslsA)

28 Excellent post Weird David.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (ykYG2)

29 Every legal man woman and child!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (JFO2v)

30 The car chase scene made me horny.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (QE8X6)

31 Can't stop the virus Mal. The very fragile will get something that overwhelms them eventually.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (q1Pj5)

32 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (arJlL)

33 Is there going to be a coronavirus press briefing today?


Posted by: IC at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM


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Yes but the media won't cover it because President Trump is a poopy head

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (JUOKG)

34 and I hope Sanders is enjoying the fact that he lost to someone who is probably borderline senile.

Posted by: mallfly of the Lamamoors at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (4a9Vv)

35 *are we bound by rule of 100 here ?

Posted by: runner, impatient at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (zr5Kq)

36 Absolutely concur WD.
Spot on!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (axyOa)

37 Going to take time to read the content before comments

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (ZCEU2)

38 Jobless claims predicted to be 4,000,000 this week

from last thread


Kudlow was saying that yes it would be a huge number but the market knows. Tomorrow at 8:30 it is announced. He wouldn't give up the actual number.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (vEIlU)

39
Did you see lindsey graham on tv yesterday or the day before?

What a piece of shit. I can't stand him.

This Stimulus is a disaster. Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (un7FC)

40 I have a weird respect for any politician that can continue to lie in the face of overwhelming evidence. It's kind of breathtaking and I know they're still lying, but their enterprise is kind of inspiring. Not in a good way.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (VNfwt)

41 Weird Dave, I think you found a new job. Now POTUS just needs to read it.

Posted by: KungPow at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (DcPfA)

42 Yes but the media won't cover it because President Trump is a poopy head

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (JUOKG)

Screw them..bet OANN will cover it.

Posted by: IC at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (a0IVu)

43 Where's the graft in that?

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (ZfRYq)

44 So, any guesses who smashed the SELL EVERYTHING!!! button at 10-minutes before Fraud Street closed today?

Because I have a few guesses.

Posted by: DocJ at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (DU2N9)

45 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)

46 Bernie Sanders threatens to punish GOP senators'[holding] coronavirus package hostage' by ... holding the coronavirus hostage

https://tinyurl.com/s4qnr4e

Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (wiXsO)

47 Boulder County (and Jefferson, Adams, a few others) is on a shelter-in-place starting tomorrow 8 AM.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (ykYG2)

48 great plan Weird Dave!!!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (j9HX3)

49 Reasonable plan WeirdDave

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (ZCEU2)

50 Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 25, 2020 04:20 PM (T09ml)

Absolutely.

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (QE8X6)

51 What are we going to do in 2 weeks? It's not like the beer flu is going to pack up and go away completely.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 04:24 PM (5IbVn)

52 Wouldn't be shocked if its 4,000,000 in Pa alone

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 04:24 PM (ZCEU2)

53 >>>POTUS just needs to read it.

Dyslexic Trump read?? Good luck!

Posted by: Ronald Drumpf at March 25, 2020 04:24 PM (MRH9j)

54 WeirdDave? Is this the ONT? Kinda early, but I'll go with it.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (lwiT4)

55 Excellent post. Like many here (I suspect) I don't expect it to do good; these things never do. But that's a pretty good outline for doing the least harm. (#4 in particular.)

And it just might have a useful morale effect, which is one thing that's damned hard to figure.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (ZbwAu)

56 Well, being almost every cook and waitstaff is not working, I'd say the unemployment # would be pretty high. And that doesn't count for the rest of the USA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (r+sAi)

57 forget primetime address, just send Guido...

Posted by: runner, impatient at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (zr5Kq)

58 51 What are we going to do in 2 weeks? It's not like the beer flu is going to pack up and go away completely.

Buy a lot of tissues.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (ykYG2)

59 the "clean bill " idea is perfect

but why aren't ALL bills clean?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (d7Ww2)

60 WeirdDave? Is this the ONT? Kinda early, but I'll go with it.





hahaha..

Posted by: runner, impatient at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (zr5Kq)

61 I see no provision in this proposal for federal pony distribution.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (XVuno)

62 Should be 10k for New Yorkers, and then whatever is left over, people in other states can have that.

Posted by: Governor Cuomo at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (ZfRYq)

63 soooooon

Posted by: Frank Zappa at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (ykYG2)

64 "If you're going to throw down a gauntlet, you might as well throw down an iron one."

Now everybody pause, and remember that Cocaine Mitch is the Senate Majority Leader. So, we know why its the president that has to do this and not, y'know, actual congressmen.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (w+Ped)

65 Need to see if alcohol, even if just wine is being sold at grocery stores because I should have bought more scotch.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (ZCEU2)

66 but why aren't ALL bills clean?
graft and corruption.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (r+sAi)

67 A thousand times yes on number 4.

Jam this political necrophilia so far down Congress' throat that they choke.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (2JVJo)

68 All it's missing is "Don't call my bluff!" at the end of it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (XVuno)

69 I am just afraid of the torpedo hidden in this bill. Something the dems snuck in that they will hang around Trump's neck because "He signed it into law"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (dNzKv)

70 What are we going to do in 2 weeks? It's not like the beer flu is going to pack up and go away completely.

Buy a lot of tissues.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 25, 2020 04:25 PM (ykYG2)


Buy War Bonds!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)

71 Good post, Weird Dave. Consider sending it to the WH.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (WI7YS)

72 This is not the time for business as usual and pork as far as the eye can see.

I will make an exception for bacon, sausage, pork chops, pork loin, brats, hot dogs, SPAM, fried pork rinds, and scrapple. Spread 'em out far and wide.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (q1Pj5)

73 This Stimulus is a disaster. Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at March

Yup

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (fNWtj)

74

Race and Ace 2024!

Kinda catchy.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (v2vZS)

75 Awful horrible idea. There is no opportunity for graft in any of these proposals. Get the fuck out of here asshole.

Posted by: Congress at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (P6ZCq)

76 Planning a vacation this summer? Give your loved ones a surprise! Visit the Otter Banks!

Paid for by the Otter Banks Tourist Board, iDAREu County, NC

Posted by: Donny Brook at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (J9A97)

77 STOP MAKING SENSE!!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (UUBmN)

78 and hear i said, F this, im for a shower and to hell with waiting for the nood.

one minute after that, here it is.

Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx Tech at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (vwf8z)

79 Two weeks ago today, TODAY, the OKC Thunder were hosting the Utah Jazz. After the introductions, which is always a spectacle, both teams went back to their dressing rooms and shortly after the game was cancelled. Owing to one player testing positive.

Later, the NBA suspended the season. Then the NHL. Then the MLB. Then the XFL. Then everything.

Then EVERYTHING closed.

And that was only two weeks ago today.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (VNfwt)

80 One thing I wish we would have pursued is the line item veto.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (dNzKv)

81 52 Hey Skip, has Wolf started on his underground bunker in Harrisburg? Asshole might need it before this is over.Hope he's caught in disguise, trying to hitchhike out of Breezewood.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (C1Lsn)

82 I kind of like the plan, "Fvck this, everyone back to what you were doing before the freakout".

If/when deaths exceed 10,000 per day then we can talk about hiding in yer holes.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (1g7ch)

83 Is there going to be a coronavirus press briefing today?
Posted by: IC at March 25, 2020 04:21 PM (a0IVu)


5PM est

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (vEIlU)

84 Jobless claims predicted to be 4,000,000 this week

uh, no shit?
duh. why are you trying to get people more outraged and afraid? this is a nothingburger. OBVIOUSLY there are going to be a staggering number of new jobless claims.

just stop

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (d7Ww2)

85 This requires a lot of reading. I don't think that's fair.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (kaRXo)

86 If it doesn't include tri-corner hats, I'm out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (r+sAi)

87 The Recovery Act of 2009 passed in Feb of that year. The Great Recession officially ended in June 2009.

There is no way that $800 million found its way into all the recesses of the economy in four months. We still don't know where a lot of that $800 million actually went.

Slightly willowed, but I'm getting more confident in saying that we don't need 2T. Weird Dave makes some great suggestions as to where a stimulus would go, and that wouldn't cost close to 2T.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (iuFgi)

88 Great post. I think some thought went in to this one.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (qjogl)

89 81 52 Hey Skip, has Wolf started on his underground bunker in Harrisburg? Asshole might need it before this is over.Hope he's caught in disguise, trying to hitchhike out of Breezewood.


he mostly lives in a massive mansion on Bermuda

and has a private plane

so, Tom will be okay.

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (j9HX3)

90 This Stimulus is a disaster. Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at March 25, 2020 04:22 PM (un7FC)


I hate them all. Probably the repugnicants the most, simply because they're supposed to be on our side. The dems 1400 page porkulus wasn't a surprise. If this was all as serious as they're saying, it would be a done deal.
Turn the lights back on. False alarm people.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (8B6Ng)

91 Buy War Bonds!!
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)

Fake Biden: that's a coherent sentence.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (w+Ped)

92 $1,000 to every man, woman, and child? H8er! Mike Bloomberg could pay every man, woman, and child $1,000,000 and never notice! This is why people hate Trump! Because if Mike Bloomberg were President, he would pay every man, woman, and child $1,000,000 and never notice!

Posted by: SFGoth at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (KAi1n)

93 This requires a lot of reading. I don't think that's fair.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (kaRXo)


It's okay. Once its passed you can find out what's in it.

Posted by: Nanzi Pelosi at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (XVuno)

94 we got a new bumper crop of shit for brains commenters

get your sarc tags ready

they are a dopey bunch

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (rpxSz)

95 I congress can just gin up $2 trillion out of thin air, why did they need my paltry income tax contribution last year?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (dNzKv)

96 Been a long, meep-less day.

Posted by: Frodo, because at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (gmSu9)

97 WD during the day? I ain't never seen that before, I don't think.

And I would be fine with a floor-smashing gauntlet drop and putting Congress in the hot seat. The president appears to have his hands full trying to keep the various incompetent and bloated executive agencies from continuing to fuck things up, let alone having to wrangle the Congress.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (e/H31)

98 scrapple
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM

+++

What is this, Lancaster effin' county?

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (T09ml)

99 NBC has the sadz - nothing is going right - no political death of Orangeman, no mass death and destruction from Kung Flu, and Demento Joe can't find his pants:

"Stocks close off Session Highs Amid Challenges to Rescue Bill!" they shriek to no one paying attention.

DJIA was up over 500 today - so, yeah "off" is all these turds could muster as they slump defeated in their chairs.

Posted by: Boswell at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (32YRo)

100

I hope Trump is already figuring out how to get some of this money back from China. They are the guilty party and should pay up.

But he better hurry up before they kick Xi out!

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:30 PM (vEIlU)

101 The bailout will be done with money created out of nothing and entered as debt to the Federal Govt.

What's the worse that could happen?

Oh, that's right. It devalues the dollar and eventually leads to our money being worthless.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:30 PM (+0AKE)

102 I kind of like the plan, "Fvck this, everyone back to what you were doing before the freakout".



If/when deaths exceed 10,000 per day then we can talk about hiding in yer holes.
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+1

Posted by: Methos at March 25, 2020 04:30 PM (kOpft)

103 You know what thought just occurred to me? Did the Mainland/Communist Chinese Coronavirus kill Mary Cloggenstein?

Posted by: SFGoth at March 25, 2020 04:30 PM (KAi1n)

104
Trump:

"We can do this the difficult way, or we can do this the hard way..."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 25, 2020 04:31 PM (G51Gf)

105 Jobless claims predicted to be 4,000,000 this week


The MOST EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! OMG!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:31 PM (dNzKv)

106 You mean if I vote for this I'm voting to give myself money?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at March 25, 2020 04:31 PM (kpVe/)

107 Buy War Bonds!!
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)

Fake Biden: that's a coherent sentence.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (w+Ped)


Thats... uh ... that's not ... the thing ... uh ... talk about ... uh ... uh ... next question

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:31 PM (aS1PU)

108 Posted by: Frodo, because

a sweet, encouraging meep just for you, frodo.
PDT will lead us thorough this. as long as we don't lose our shit and fall for the hysterics.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (d7Ww2)

109 Shut down the country and millions lose their jobs?
No fucking way!!
This is already baked in. Nobody will be shocked by these numbers despite the MSM effort to get people shocked.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (P6ZCq)

110 Spot on WD.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...more antisocial then normal at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (GTLFy)

111 Cali morons....

@_mxmmedia

Breaking: California Gov. Gavin Newsom announces largest U.S. banks have agreed to a 90-day forbearance on mortgage payments for California homeowners affected by Covid-19. Bank of America agreed to 30 days

Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (cF8AT)

112 But Mr President! MR PRESIDENT! What do you say to those three out of every four Americans that say you should shut down the entire country?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (+fPHo)

113 we got a new bumper crop of shit for brains commenters

get your sarc tags ready

they are a dopey bunch
Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (rpxSz)


they do not just come to troll
they come to take the temperature of the opposition
and get ideas

this is how desperate they are

Trump is rocking yet again and they cannot figure out how this is happening.

You can try to explain but they do not really want the truth, the want to know how to destroy the truth.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (vEIlU)

114 Since we're talking economics, and, this is a subject in which I would make a great reporter, because I know virtually nothing about the subject:

What would the economic impact of a "pause" be?

In other words, all payments, car, house, business, loans, etc., two month moratorium on payment.

No interest accrued for the two months.

Would it help? Hinder? Implode the economy?

I might add, yes, it would add two months to the lifetime of the loan, mortgage, etc.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (WEBkv)

115 I congress can just gin up $2 trillion out of thin air, why did they need my paltry income tax contribution last year?
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*Your* income has to go into the incinerator to offset *their* spending so *we* don't have "too much" inflation.

Posted by: Methos at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (kOpft)

116 Mary is in hiding because NPR told her too.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (bMMCK)

117 4 million new jobless, unemployment still lower than when Obama left office.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (dNzKv)

118 Why, oh why hasn't the White House prepared Ace's and my office?

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (mrrpT)

119 We still don't know where a lot of that $800 million actually went.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (iuFgi)

$800 million?!

I'm giggling like a virtual japanese e-thot, here!

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (w+Ped)

120 I thought Dave was not here man.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (u6xw0)

121 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:30 PM (+0AKE)

I don't think there is a single country that can pay their debt back. And were still the preferred currency right? So I guess I'd like to know what the hang up is? Genuinely curious.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (hY7P/)

122 95 I congress can just gin up $2 trillion out of thin air, why did they need my paltry income tax contribution last year?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (dNzKv)

You've actually hit upon the Great Secret (that everybody who looks closely at it knows) They Don't. They haven't for years and years. The only reason you and I are asked to pay is keep up the pretense that this is a "fair system" where those who have more, pay more.. Because if we ever admit openly that the entire thing is a huge plastic circus built on smoke and mirrors and there is no actual basis for anything, it might hurt "Confidence in the System."

Think of Money in our system as being like the Spoon in the original Matrix film. And remember the key to understanding the System - There Is No Spoon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (trdmm)

123 Buy War Bonds!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)



Fake Biden: that's a coherent sentence.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (w+Ped)



Needed to add "to beat the Kaiser" to make it more Biden

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (GR/2q)

124 Because paying income tax is the only real value of the fiat currency that we use. That and its illegal not to take it for payment in commerce.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (+0AKE)

125 Daytime WD is like day drinking.

This must be a sign.

Five o'clock somewhere.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (ZfRYq)

126 Thanks, nurse. Working from home is a chore, couldn't even check on the morons at all. Just got here.

Posted by: Frodo, felling better - got a meep at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (gmSu9)

127 Ace for President! Promise you'll say "bullshit" a lot in your speeches.

Posted by: USA at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (lE2nd)

128 $800 million?!

I'm giggling like a virtual japanese e-thot, here!
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (w+Ped)

Drat. I meant billion. Point still stands, though.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (iuFgi)

129 Stimulate this, Sinema.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (v0R5T)

130 I thought Ace wrote this...

You mean I have to share an office with Weird Dave?

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (mrrpT)

131 Oh, great, it appears I'm on the same wavelength as Gavin Newsom.

I will now commit sepuku.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (WEBkv)

132 OK, unemployment numbers come out tomorrow. That way we can have a big sell off and the boys all get a shoebox of blow and a hooker for the weekend. Am I talking about Wall Street or Congress? You be the judge.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (C1Lsn)

133 >>Ace for President! Promise you'll say "bullshit" a lot in your speeches.


...and put the word 'Snizz' on the Dollar Bill!

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (noaju)

134 I'd like my money in small unmarked bill if you please.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (BiNEL)

135 Would it help? Hinder? Implode the economy?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (WEBkv)

It would hinder the economy by reducing liquidity. It's a bad idea.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (dLLD6)

136 111. Wow. Thats crazy!

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (JRaU+)

137 65
Need to see if alcohol, even if just wine is being sold at grocery stores because I should have bought more scotch.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (ZCEU2)


Might have to don my hazmat suit and head over to Trader Joe's myself. I'm down to 4 liters of perfectly acceptable Scotch.



Posted by: Javems at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (ofIwF)

138 but why aren't ALL bills clean?
graft and corruption.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:26 PM (r+sAi)


This.

If they WANTED to, they could pass a law stating that in certain circumstances, NO PORK ALLOWED.

But that would lessen the flow from the teat tremendously.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (Zz0t1)

139 Breaking: California Gov. Gavin Newsom announces largest U.S. banks have agreed to a 90-day forbearance on mortgage payments for California homeowners affected by Covid-19. Bank of America agreed to 30 days
Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (cF8AT)


Typical of those money-grubbing bastards at BoA.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (9KTP0)

140 Print more money, pay higher prices.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (5IbVn)

141 Where's my government cheese?

Posted by: Regular joe at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (6/uwW)

142 Mary is in hiding because NPR told her too.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (bMMCK)


I forgot about Mary. Maybe all of Brattleboro is out canvasing for Bernie.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (vEIlU)

143 Buy War Bonds!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)

Fake Biden: that's a coherent sentence.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (w+Ped)
........

But he was trying to say: "Buy rubber bands!"

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (v0R5T)

144 There was an F Paul Wilson book where Jack foresaw a sentient disease take over the world, and every attempt to stop it was thwarted by the victims who were taken over and directed by it. Silly libertarian, he didn't understand that the unip arty didn't NEED to be controlled by a disease to do that

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (bMMCK)

145 $800 million?!

I'm giggling like a virtual japanese e-thot, here!
Posted by: The Federal Reserve

I don't understand your reference, and I won't respond to it. And neither will my wife.

Posted by: Mayor DeBlasio at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (VNfwt)

146 Breaking: California Gov. Gavin Newsom announces largest U.S. banks have agreed to a 90-day forbearance on mortgage payments for California homeowners affected by Covid-19. Bank of America agreed to 30 days

Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (cF8AT)

Thus began the Great Cali-NY goody bag fight. Cuomo is readying his "All NY-ers need precise maps of Ft Knox and moon property rights!" speech as we speak.

Posted by: Boswell at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (32YRo)

147 While Pandemic is a good game, its probably not the best time to play with the family since you almost always fail and doom the world. Seriously, its a worse survival rate than Avalon Hill's Outdoor Survival game.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (KZzsI)

148 Typical of those money-grubbing bastards at BoA.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (9KTP0)


bastards!

Posted by: Well Fargo at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (aS1PU)

149 Line Item Veto Constitutional Amendment needed.

Posted by: Line Item Veto Constitutional Amendment needed. at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (kpVe/)

150 It would hinder the economy by reducing liquidity. It's a bad idea.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (dLLD6)
------------

Well, I figured out it was a bad idea as soon as I saw the post above wherein Newsom came out with the same plan.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (WEBkv)

151 I am not sure of calculating cost of payment relief, but I would think lenders know it would be smart to work with everybody, its not like they want to own 50 million cars all at once.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (r+sAi)

152 Been a long, meep-less day.

It's just another meepless Wednesday
oh-wa-oh

Posted by: Prince first draft at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (ZBrWm)

153 Breaking: California Gov. Gavin Newsom announces largest U.S. banks have agreed to a 90-day forbearance on mortgage payments for California homeowners affected by Covid-19. Bank of America agreed to 30 days
Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (cF8AT)

Typical of those money-grubbing bastards at BoA.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (9KTP0)


Aetna waives copays and deductibles

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (vEIlU)

154 >> Line Item Veto Constitutional Amendment needed.


I suggested Trump use his Pen and Phone (Executive Order) to apply it to this Emergency Act, Only.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (noaju)

155 I don't think there is a single country that can pay their debt back. And were still the preferred currency right? So I guess I'd like to know what the hang up is? Genuinely curious.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (hY7P/)

No, actually, it's quite easy to pay the debt back, unless it's denominated in something other than your own currency. (all our debt is denominated in dollars) We were posting last night, I think, about how China owns approx. $1.1 Trillion in US securities, how could we pay that back? Quite easily, actually: The Fed prints up a piece of paper that says "THIS PAPER IS WORTH $1.1 TRILLION DOLLARS, SIGNED THE FED." And that's it, debt paid back.

we're in a system now where Lenders are the stupid ones, and Sovereign Debtors have all the power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (trdmm)

156 Trump should walk up to the podium, take the mike in hand, lean forward, and say "as our Puritan forefathers were believed to have said, 'root hog, or die.'

"There will be no stimulus. Those who did not plan for catastrophe must go under that those who did can reap the reward of their foresight."
Tight smile. Mic drop. Parade. Sacrifices. A pillage-war. Conquest. Spoils.

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (qXNVo)

157 The only thing I could agree on is a halt to all payroll tax with an agreement that it would be paid for by governments cuts.

Yes, I realize the main problem with this is that it would never ever happen.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (l6b3d)

158 Can one of you New Yorkers tell me why DeBlasio changed his name from Willem or whatever it was?

Posted by: Blutarski at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (VNfwt)

159 I always liked Chutes and Ladders....and later as I got into my teens...Risk.

Posted by: torabora at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (kpVe/)

160 I saw the #IBelieveTara hashtag trending on Twitter. Apparently there is a new sexual misconduct allegation against Biden.

Posted by: Mark1971 at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (xPl2J)

161 Another Pleasant Valley Meepday

Posted by: Frodo, felling better - got a meep at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (gmSu9)

162 Oooh...3 months without a mortgage payment?

I can dig that. I'd use the money to do work on my house.

What's the hitch? Fees, mysterious scroll shortages?


Posted by: dananjcon at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (u6xw0)

163 The corporate welfare queens run America.

Posted by: it begins... at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (MRjKr)

164 I think SCOTUS already said line item veto was unconstitutional, so it would take an Amendment. I could be wrong. I think the last time anyone talked about it was when Clinton was Pres.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (+0AKE)

165 158 Can one of you New Yorkers tell me why DeBlasio changed his name from Willem or whatever it was?
-------------------
Cultural and Ethnic Appropriation.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (kaRXo)

166
It's just another meepless Wednesday
oh-wa-oh
Posted by: Prince first draft at March 25, 2020 04:37 PM (ZBrWm)

It's Lent; It's supposed to be a meeples Friday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (WI7YS)

167 Drat. I meant billion. Point still stands, though.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (iuFgi)

Just being a wisenheimer. Pretty sure we all knew whatcha meant! But it really underscores that vast amounts of cash these people abscond with at every frickin' opportunity.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (w+Ped)

168 Apparently there is a new sexual misconduct allegation against Biden.

huh I guess the DNC is rushing this thing - can't wait for the stroke

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (j9HX3)

169 Stratego, motherfuckers.


Stratego.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (noaju)

170 Buy War Bonds!!
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)

Fake Biden: that's a coherent sentence.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (w+Ped)


Well, to be fair, the media left out the lead-in sentence:

"Ladies and gentlemen, I have four words for you!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (BiNEL)

171 uh, no shit?
duh. why are you trying to get people more outraged and afraid? this is a nothingburger. OBVIOUSLY there are going to be a staggering number of new jobless claims.

just stop
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 04:28 PM (d7Ww2)


This.

My wife was furloughed this week. We need her income. She is filing.

So will everyone else that lost income because of this shit.

OF COURSE the numbers will rise. The quicker this shit ends, the quicker the numbers go back to normal.

Seems simple to me.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (Zz0t1)

172 I saw the #IBelieveTara hashtag trending on Twitter. Apparently there is a new sexual misconduct allegation against Biden.
Posted by: Mark1971 at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (xPl2J)
-----------

More than likely, these days, he was reaching for a glass of water and grabbed something else instead.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (WEBkv)

173 I would rather not see a stimulus at all. The more we do this the more people get to thinking the true purpose of government is to transfer money their way from {makes expansive hand gesture} somewhere else.

The people, and the economy, will recover much more quickly if the government does nothing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (wGeit)

174 "we're in a system now where Lenders are the stupid ones, and Sovereign Debtors have all the power."
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (trdmm)


As I mentioned in previous threads, we're the only country that could do a total reset and make it stick.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (mrrpT)

175 To paraphrase My Cousin Vinny, WeirdDave...

"That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out suggestion...OVERRULED."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpMwDgxC-I

Posted by: LizLem at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (hvf9s)

176
Buy War Bonds!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:27 PM (aS1PU)





Fake Biden: that's a coherent sentence.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:29 PM (w+Ped)



Needed to add "to beat the Kaiser" to make it more Biden


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (GR/2q)


Kaiser beat bonds to the buy- The real Joe dementia
Malarkey


Posted by: Archer at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (gmo/4)

177 164. Or a reversal. If the Court did it, then the Court can undo it. Aint life grand.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (JRaU+)

178 >>>homeowners affected by Covid-19. Bank of America agreed to 30 days
Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (cF8AT)


It's a trick. You think they are talking people laid off because of the Kung Flu FREAKOUT. They are talking about homeowners who got the Kung Flu. Almost no one.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (1g7ch)

179 Stratego, motherfuckers.


Stratego.
Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (noaju)


I thought it was meep meep.....

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (Zz0t1)

180 >>155
I don't think there is a single country that can pay their debt back.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:33 PM (hY7P/)

Ahem.

Posted by: The Britihs Exchequer, circa 2006 at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (qXNVo)

181 165 158 Can one of you New Yorkers tell me why DeBlasio changed his name from Willem or whatever it was?


he just FEELS Italian

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (j9HX3)

182 Since we're talking economics, and, this is a subject in which I would make a great reporter, because I know virtually nothing about the subject:

What would the economic impact of a "pause" be?

In other words, all payments, car, house, business, loans, etc., two month moratorium on payment.

No interest accrued for the two months.

Would it help? Hinder? Implode the economy?

I might add, yes, it would add two months to the lifetime of the loan, mortgage, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (WEBkv)


It would be messy and complicated. Any company relying on payments from debt (mortage, loans, etc) would still have to make payroll, since people still need to get paid in order to afford food and electricity. You might be able to get around the second by having the government guarantee to cover all utility costs during the emergency, but food would still be an issue. Additionally, the global trade networks that we rely on for so many goods wouldn't be shut down. If your business can't get money it's owed from customers, it can't pay the suppliers overseas. Not to mention issues like futures markets (which are pretty important for a lot of industries as a means to hedge against certain costs).

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (SgjGX)

183 scroll = escrow

Posted by: dananjcon at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (u6xw0)

184 >>I think SCOTUS already said line item veto was unconstitutional, so it would take an Amendment. I could be wrong. I think the last time anyone talked about it was when Clinton was Pres.


Whatever. Executive order allowing it for this national Emergency ONLY and let the Court hash it out between the Recovery and the Next Pandemic.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (noaju)

185 Reading old thread and forgot new thread:

647 638
In case you thought only American had gone crazy:
Aussie Lawmaker: 'Covid-19 Is a Gendered Crisis'
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 25, 2020 04:23 PM (+y/Ru)



It doesn't add up. How did the whole world fall for this hoax?

All the dead Chinese;
did their swine, avian, other mortality numbers parallel this flu?

Or was this a conspiracy ginned up between Xi and the World Health Organization to put the occidental world and the rest of Asia on its heels?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (Sod+H)

186 Stratego.



Stragium !

Posted by: runner, impatient at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (zr5Kq)

187 164 I think SCOTUS already said line item veto was unconstitutional, so it would take an Amendment. I could be wrong. I think the last time anyone talked about it was when Clinton was Pres.
----------------------
Too bad we don't have any GOPer Hawaiian Judges. Life would be much easier.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (kaRXo)

188 Think of Money in our system as being like the Spoon in the original Matrix film. And remember the key to understanding the System - There Is No Spoon.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (trdmm)
++++++++++++++
Eh, not entirely. If the government were to print what they want to spend as the sole means, it is theft (through loss of purchasing power) and it compounds. Through deficit finance, it is still theft (from the future *and* through inflation, though in a mix). Maintaining a tax base means that it isn't entirely financed and yes, this has implications for "confidence" because there would be *zero* confidence in a system where the government gets whatever it wants through devaluation because the government always, as an iron rule, wants everything. By having to chain it to taxes, government growth is contained.

But more than that, taxes have a profound effect on the definition of money. John Law learned this the hard way with the assignat debacle in France, where the French tried to have their cake and eat it, too - by telling the people to use one currency for trade, but to pay their taxes in another (gold). Ultimately, "money" is whatever can be used to pay your taxes, as that becomes the preferred medium of exchange in general because everyone is subject to taxation. Taxes also act as a stabilizing force for competing currencies within a system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (e/H31)

189 #154. Good idea.

Who has standing to challenge it?

Posted by: torabora at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (kpVe/)

190 The people, and the economy, will recover much more quickly if the government does nothing.
[//i]

exactly

stop this nonsense

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (j9HX3)

191 oops

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (j9HX3)

192 Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (wGeit)

Sounds good but in reality alot of people are behind the 8 ball. Unless all monthly Bill's are stopped and grocery stores slash their prices temporarily which won't happen.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (hY7P/)

193 Believe it or not, Russia has very little debt. But, I think it's more the case of no one wanting to loan them money then fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (+0AKE)

194 Trump should have a Ross Perot moment with the nation, I always thought that was really effective and no one else really ever tried it again.

Posted by: Blago at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (sjTfF)

195 Every time I go in the stores the crowds are normal but all the paper prodigious are still sold out. WTF? Who is buying all the TP? Is somebody hijacking the trucks?

Posted by: Ripley at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (MxEKc)

196 Needed to add "to beat the Kaiser" to make it more Biden


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2020 04:34 PM (GR/2q)


Still too coherent. More likely: "To beat... that guy. You know, that guy."

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:42 PM (wGeit)

197 Trump is hated by most democrats to the point of trump derangement syndrome. (not me I voted for jill stein because I hated hillary clinton more then I disliked trump) Attacking democrats won't work because democrat politicians fear their base who hate trump, just as republican politicians fear their trump loving base so bully pulpit won't work. Democrats have nothing to gain and every thing to lose in their primaries by working with trump. (this is the case with republicans too! Democrats hate republicans now as much as republicans hate them. No more mr nice guy!

Posted by: raimondo at March 25, 2020 04:42 PM (wqGHU)

198 oops
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (j9HX3)


Welcome to the party pal!

Posted by: The Barrel at March 25, 2020 04:42 PM (Zz0t1)

199 I'm with Ace's Liver.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (u6xw0)

200 Velocity of money or some such thing. I'm not an economist but I recall how that's the difference between health and death in even a stagnant economy. This lockdown bullshit cranks the velocity to near zero, and can't last long.

Of course the fed can step in and crank out money like in the hilarious GIF going around, but in the past Banks and others seem to have a huge net to catch that money with before it gets to trickle down.

Direct payments, as loathsome as they may be to non communists, would be the way to get that cash in a position to be spent. Especially since those most affected by this are going to be behind already in payments, that money will not stay in anyone's hands for very long. Thus restarting the velocity.

Do I have this theory right? I know we have economists here.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (z79tQ)

201 181
165 158 Can one of you New Yorkers tell me why DeBlasio changed his name from Willem or whatever it was?





he just FEELS Italian

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE!

Wilhem is too fascist. He wanted something commie and exotic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (MVR7y)

202 Print more money, pay higher prices.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 04:36 PM (5IbVn)


The more money in circulation, the harder it is to figure the exact graft component that mysteriously seems missing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (BiNEL)

203 Jobless claims predicted to be 4,000,000 this week

Kudlow made it clear when interviewing with Hemmer that the market knows. They are ready for it.

They both said, of course.

Of course.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (vEIlU)

204 >>Sounds good but in reality alot of people are behind the 8 ball.


They can sell their Tattoos for all I care.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (noaju)

205 California Gov. Gavin Newsom announces largest U.S. banks have agreed to a 90-day forbearance on mortgage payments for California homeowners affected by Covid-19. Bank of America agreed to 30 days
$-$$$
Those banks should be giving everyone in the country with a mortgage a forbearance then....

Posted by: lin-duh at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (UUBmN)

206 Look, I'm not saying that a bailout is the best idea. I'm not saying it isn't. But it certainly looks like there's one coming, and Trump should get out in front of it, set the parameters, and pin the onus on getting it done on Congress, and do it in such a way that makes Congress the bad guy if they try to play their usual little reindeer games.

So the Bumper Sticker version of this is:

From Each According To Their Ability, To Each According To Their Need.

Outstanding. The Soviets won the Cold War - it just took a while but the Governors and Mayors persevered and here we are.

Posted by: 🐧 at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (C+evo)

207 Still too coherent. More likely: "To beat... that guy. You know, that guy."

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:42 PM (wGeit)


POP TARTS!
Joe Dementia

Posted by: Archer at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (gmo/4)

208 Breaking: Govt has forgone the cheese program and is now issuing govt TP.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (r+sAi)

209 WeirdDave for PDJT advisor. i like it.

very nicely put together, which is why it'll never happen...

i'm still slightly hopeful that the GOP won't fuck this up too badly.

and nice to see that Bernie can be counted on to fuck the whole thing up.

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (8D42x)

210 The people, and the economy, will recover much more quickly if the government does nothing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (wGeit)

At least there will be one vote in the next election for the anti-free-shit party.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (mrrpT)

211 What would the economic impact of a "pause" be?

In other words, all payments, car, house, business, loans, etc., two month moratorium on payment.

No interest accrued for the two months.

Would it help? Hinder? Implode the economy?

I might add, yes, it would add two months to the lifetime of the loan, mortgage, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:32 PM (WEBkv)

An economy is a living thing. Although it's an imperfect analogy, what would be the impact if you decided to "pause" and ate no food for 2 months?

A 2 month pause, we are far far worse off than even the depths of the Great Depression in the 30's. Who keeps producing food? Who keeps the grocery stores stocked? Our entire society goes into total collapse with a 2 month shutdown, that's what happens.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (trdmm)

212 It would be messy and complicated. Any company relying on payments from debt (mortage, loans, etc) would still have to make payroll, since people still need to get paid in order to afford food and electricity. You might be able to get around the second by having the government guarantee to cover all utility costs during the emergency, but food would still be an issue. Additionally, the global trade networks that we rely on for so many goods wouldn't be shut down. If your business can't get money it's owed from customers, it can't pay the suppliers overseas. Not to mention issues like futures markets (which are pretty important for a lot of industries as a means to hedge against certain costs).
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (SgjGX)
---------

Thank you.

I figured it was a bad idea when I saw Newsom was for a similar idea, but I wasn't sure where the problem was.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (WEBkv)

213 No, actually, it's quite easy to pay the debt back, unless it's denominated in something other than your own currency. (all our debt is denominated in dollars) We were posting last night, I think, about how China owns approx. $1.1 Trillion in US securities, how could we pay that back? Quite easily, actually: The Fed prints up a piece of paper that says "THIS PAPER IS WORTH $1.1 TRILLION DOLLARS, SIGNED THE FED." And that's it, debt paid back.

we're in a system now where Lenders are the stupid ones, and Sovereign Debtors have all the power.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (trdmm)


The Trillion Dollar Coin.

One of the Obamabots started that idea a few years back. The Fed just mints a coin that says One Trillion Dollars on it and boom done.

I'm all what the hell, let's print 100 of them and there we go, all the debt problems are gone.

I suggest that one side have a chupacabra or otter rampant over a bald eagle.

The other side has the IT clown - either Tim Curry or Bill Skarsgard version is acceptable.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (mf5HN)

214 I'd like my money in small unmarked bill if you please.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:35 PM (BiNEL)
.........

Can I get mine in pesos?

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (v0R5T)

215 off sock

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (aS1PU)

216 Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (noaju)

But they can keep the mom tats right?

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (hY7P/)

217 WeirdDave your post is SUPERB! Someone needs to forward this to PDT ASAP!

Posted by: Cheribebe at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (ebO28)

218 Can "human bonds" be sold/issued?

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (qXNVo)

219 >> Velocity of money or some such thing.


This is a very real concern.

Without momentum, the Economy is not gonna make it. When it comes to the Economy, Walk It Off is a better Prescription than Traction.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (noaju)

220 211. Devil's advocate: Would people not generally spend it on something else? Very few, if any, consumers would simply put that money under their mattress.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (JRaU+)

221 Line item veto is unconstitutional but congress can forbid an omnibus bill.

They can rule 'one topic one bill'. No riders, No add ons.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (Sod+H)

222 >>> The people, and the economy, will recover much more quickly if the government does nothing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM

It would recover even faster if the government did less than nothing, i.e. stopped doing some of the things they are doing now. Why does nothing, regardless of how severely it effects our life, ever result in the government weakening, contracting.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (l6b3d)

223 My store is trying to infect me. Walk into break room to find they got rid of the little tables so now we have to sit shoulder to shoulder.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (124oO)

224 Ah, the sexual allegation on the paste eater is the official DNC shiv.

Posted by: azalea city at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (WX+x0)

225 Breaking: Govt has forgone the cheese program and is now issuing govt TP.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (r+sAi)
........

Had to, that government cheese will give you the squirts.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (v0R5T)

226 192 Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (wGeit)

Sounds good but in reality alot of people are behind the 8 ball. Unless all monthly Bill's are stopped and grocery stores slash their prices temporarily which won't happen.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (hY7P/)


I'm not say there's no suffering in the meantime. I have no problem with a safety net. But these sorts of stimulus things are actually counter productive. They drag out whatever changes the economy needs to make and delay the recovery. For years.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (wGeit)

227 Bought some eyedrops today. Proudly made by Americans for Americans, not by a bunch of Godless Commie Chinks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (C1Lsn)

228 This from the president of a community college.

A sensitive and moving commentary to national reactions to virus threats


The English are feeling the pinch in relation to the recent virus threat and have therefore raised their threat level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, the level may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. The virus has been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to ";A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's Get the Bastard." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout loudly and excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."

The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose."

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

Australia, meanwhile, has raised its alert level from "*No worries" to "She'll be alright, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!" and "The barbie is cancelled." So far, no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

-
It's good to know that we're all in this together.


Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (+y/Ru)

229 There is no plan to pay the debt back until they have devalued the dollar to the point where the debt is insignificant. That's why we just recently payed off debt from the War of 1812.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (+0AKE)

230 Direct payments, as loathsome as they may be to non communists, would be the way to get that cash in a position to be spent.

Can we all say "Universal Basic Income". ?

If this is going to be done, this Wuhan Panic is the mechanism for getting everyone to sign on without blood running through the streets.

Posted by: 🐧 at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (C+evo)

231 Whatever. Executive order allowing it for this national Emergency ONLY and let the Court hash it out between the Recovery and the Next Pandemic.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (noaju)


Exactly like a Democrat would do, and ignore the courts until it is too late to matter!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (BiNEL)

232 I think SCOTUS already said line item veto was unconstitutional, so it would take an Amendment. I could be wrong. I think the last time anyone talked about it was when Clinton was Pres.


Whatever. Executive order allowing it for this national Emergency ONLY and let the Court hash it out between the Recovery and the Next Pandemic.
Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:40 PM (noaju)


Brilliant! Trump enacts line item veto by executive order. If the next president tries to cancel it, he is barred by the court, because the decision is arbitrary and capricious.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (dNzKv)

233 Every time I go in the stores the crowds are normal but all the paper prodigious are still sold out. WTF? Who is buying all the TP? Is somebody hijacking the trucks?
Posted by: Ripley at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (MxEKc)


You have to get there during the first 15 of the business day to see it move.... off the back docks.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (1g7ch)

234 Relating to the boardgame in the sidebar:

There is a computer (and mobile) game called Plague, Inc. that has been around for years and is quite good. Basically you tailor a bug to try to get it to wipe out humanity.

Got a bit of an RPG element to it.

It's interesting, and also a little shocking at how they model the spread of a bug and how the china flu has mirrored the game.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (s9Eo8)

235 Who is buying all the TP? Is somebody hijacking the trucks?
Posted by: Ripley at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (MxEKc)

I scored a 12 pack of Quilted Northern at Wal Mart this morning - made my wife happy, brought her personal stash back up to about 60 rolls. YEAH BUDDY!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (trdmm)

236 To me every single business but maybe toilet paper and grocery stores got hit hard.

I just don't see how you bail all of them out.

Industries like restaurants have the life span of a fruit fly anyway. Does every shit hole restaurant get a big check?

I know a dental practice that has $100k of overhead a month with a largely idle operation? Do they get like $200k for this from Uncle Sam?

There's just not enough money to pay for all of this.

Posted by: Blago at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (sjTfF)

237 210 The people, and the economy, will recover much more quickly if the government does nothing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (wGeit)

At least there will be one vote in the next election for the anti-free-shit party.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (mrrpT)


Yeah, I know. It's a political nonstarter.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (wGeit)

238 Shake that Money Tree like it has never been shaken before!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (juQf+)

239 Can "human bonds" be sold/issued?

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (qXNVo)
+++++++++++++++
Not quite, but you can close with intellectual property. For example, the "Bowie Bond."

A couple of years before he died, David Bowie wanted the next several years' worth of residuals and royalties up front. He worked with an investment banker and they created a security by forming a trust, transferring the rights into the trust, estimating the cashflow, discounting it to arrive an interest rate, and then auctioning bonds backed by the trust. David Bowie cashed out, the trust receives the residuals, the bond holders get their payments, and anything above the expected return will revert to his estate when the trust closes and the bond issue is retired.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (e/H31)

240 I'm thinking the unemployment office is hiring for new clerks.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (5IbVn)

241 There is a computer (and mobile) game called Plague, Inc. that has been around for years and is quite good. Basically you tailor a bug to try to get it to wipe out humanity.

Got a bit of an RPG element to it.

It's interesting, and also a little shocking at how they model the spread of a bug and how the china flu has mirrored the game.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (s9Eo8


I was playing Pandemic II for a few hours yesterday.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)

242 Prometheus review by that funny foreign guy : https://tinyurl.com/yxcrpm78

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (qjogl)

243 >>Brilliant!


I didn't go to school to eat my lunch, yo.

I was trying to bang a teacher, but sadly that never worked out.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (noaju)

244 I figured it was a bad idea when I saw Newsom was for a similar idea, but I wasn't sure where the problem was.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:44 PM (WEBkv)


Honestly, working with lenders, utilities, and banks to create some sort of deferment isn't a bad idea, but trying to shut it all down for two or three months would be a nightmare to try to do.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (SgjGX)

245 Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (wGeit)

I agree with you actually but like I said I don't know a way out of this without helping people monetarily. Economics is not a strong point of mine which I why I love reading the comments here.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (hY7P/)

246 ...
It's good to know that we're all in this together.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (+y/Ru)


Well done!

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (aS1PU)

247 I was playing Pandemic II for a few hours yesterday.
Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)


fun game

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (vEIlU)

248 Completely OT but gotta vent. These 3 pitbulls behind us are REALLY starting to piss my ass off. I ventured out to buy a rake and was going to clean out the garden beds. They've been out there for hours and bark if a fucking leaf moves. I can't let my own dog out. They already had to cops called on them but they don't seem to care. So..gorgeous sunny day and I can't go out and do what I love to do. I'm seriously pissed off.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (dUJdY)

249 Thanks to all who pointed out the obvious flaws of my idea.

And managed to do it in a polite and educational manner.

Which, come to think of, what's up with that? Who are you people?

Seriously, though, thank you.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (WEBkv)

250 Line item veto is unconstitutional but congress can forbid an omnibus bill.

They can rule 'one topic one bill'. No riders, No add ons.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (Sod+H)


NOT with a Uniparty legislature!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (BiNEL)

251 National debts almost never get paid off.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (fNWtj)

252 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)

253 By having to chain it to taxes, government growth is contained.

---
That theory doesn't really work when government isn't required to pass a budget.

Posted by: Methos at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kOpft)

254 Ace for President! Promise you'll say "bullshit" a lot in your speeches.
...and put the word 'Snizz' on the Dollar Bill!
Posted by: garrett

In mish we trust.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (iN8Q9)

255
fun game
Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (vEIlU)


My wife, however, was not impressed.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (Zz0t1)

256 Guv Pritzker in Illinois has extended the state's tax filing deadline to meet the feds. July 15th. That's one good thing the fellow has done.

Posted by: lizabth at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (L3Rsz)

257 I'm thinking the unemployment office is hiring for new clerks.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (5IbVn)


delivery services are hurting for people

food delivery and the like

I think even Amazon was looking for drivers.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (vEIlU)

258 >>In mish we trust.


E Pluribus Snizz

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:50 PM (noaju)

259 Breaking: Govt has forgone the cheese program and is now issuing govt TP.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:43 PM (r+sAi)

Single filer making 75K a year get one roll a month - Joint filers over 100K, get one square each, family of four making over $150K? Use leaves, ya rich ass holes!

Posted by: Boswell at March 25, 2020 04:50 PM (32YRo)

260 235 Who is buying all the TP? Is somebody hijacking the trucks?
Posted by: Ripley at March 25, 2020 04:41 PM (MxEKc)

I scored a 12 pack of Quilted Northern at Wal Mart this morning - made my wife happy, brought her personal stash back up to about 60 rolls. YEAH BUDDY!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (trdmm)


TP is returning to the shelves in my area. Last week there were people lined up at store opening time in hopes of snagging a package, and it was gone in twenty minutes. I just saw some on the shelf mid-day, though, and there wasn't a big rush of people trying to get it.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:50 PM (wGeit)

261 Ace for President! Promise you'll say "bullshit" a lot in your speeches.
...and put the word 'Snizz' on the Dollar Bill!
Posted by: garrett

In mish we trust.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (iN8Q9)



That's Joe Bidet's line.

Posted by: runner, impatient at March 25, 2020 04:50 PM (zr5Kq)

262 What I'm saying is that if you get a copy of Pandemic and play it with the whole family, while it is cooperative, it may send your kids to bed with nightmares because you fail to stop the plague and doom the planet 9 times out of 10 play-throughs. So now may not be the ideal time to bust out the game.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 04:50 PM (KZzsI)

263 Police are going to start giving ONE warning and then ticketing people who flout the stay-at-home order in Chicago.

Posted by: lizabth at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (L3Rsz)

264 I'm seriously pissed off.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (dUJdY)


very sad

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (vEIlU)

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (zr5Kq)

266 As part of the shopping after the panic buyers, I got some bangers. Are they just some weird Euro sausage with no flavoring, a papery casing, and wheat(?) added to bulk it up?
I am not sure what the point of this foodish substance is.

Posted by: Downcast at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (xgpfE)

267 There is a stale smell in here.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (VpIIl)

268 16 weeks of unemployment at $24.00hr.? Who the hell is gonna want to go back to work?

Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (3B0qi)

269 I'm not say there's no suffering in the meantime. I have no problem with a safety net. But these sorts of stimulus things are actually counter productive. They drag out whatever changes the economy needs to make and delay the recovery. For years.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (wGeit)

There are a great number of people running just on the edge. If they tip over into poverty, they will not recover and be stuck there permanently. The "safety net" is not a great place to land in a recession that you had no part in creating.

Everyone is counting on the government to give enough to prevent millions of middle class people from dropping into poverty while the economy comes back, but everyone also knows that government will fuck it up. Already, they're talking about basing thing off of tax returns. Want to guess how much our waitresses claim in wages?

The only way out of this is to out "free shit" the free shitters. Go HUGE. Use the total reset to reshape the country and bring stability to the middle class.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (mrrpT)

270 Line item veto is unconstitutional but congress can forbid an omnibus bill.

They can rule 'one topic one bill'. No riders, No add-ons.


They can make it a rule for each body but to make it official it would take constitutional amendment again, in my opinion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (KZzsI)

271 The New York police are getting the virus. And they said the call in sick is 3 times the normal call ins.

Bad news for NY if this ramps up at the same time the cops leave the streets.

Build That Wall

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (vEIlU)

272 There is a computer (and mobile) game called Plague, Inc. that has been around for years and is quite good. Basically you tailor a bug to try to get it to wipe out humanity.

Got a bit of an RPG element to it.

It's interesting, and also a little shocking at how they model the spread of a bug and how the china flu has mirrored the game.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (s9Eo8


China force Apple to pull that game from the app store.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (wGeit)

273 232 I think SCOTUS already said line item veto was unconstitutional, so it would take an Amendment. I could be wrong. I think the last time anyone talked about it was when Clinton was Pres..

Line Item Veto Act of 1996, held to be unconstitutional in Clinton vs City of New York. Executive Order doesn't have the power to overturn that, not unless he's ready to call in the 101st Airborne and throw the SCOtUS justices in Leavenworth, and if he's going to go that far, he might as well throw all of the Senators and Congressmen into military prison as well, and assume the title of Lord Protector.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (trdmm)

274 >>Not quite, but you can close with intellectual property. For example, the "Bowie Bond."
...when the trust closes and the
bond issue is retired. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (e/H31)

Interesting. I imagine a "human bond" would require some sort of legal instrument whereby the issuer would abrogate any relief under the 13th Amendment.

Of course, if we got to the point where people could selectively surrender constitutional protection, we'd be just one slip away from people compelling servitude.

Which would be acceptable.

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (qXNVo)

275 In 1918 the governments tried to do nothing and the recovery cost 50 million to 100 million lives thanks to the free market libertarian (final) solution.

Posted by: raimondo at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (wqGHU)

276 252 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)


Because that's all a lot of people know how to cook.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (mrrpT)

277 Right ON, WeirdDave!!

JustDave in GR.

Posted by: JustDave in GR at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (KBiU/)

278 Can we all say "Universal Basic Income". ?

If this is going to be done, this Wuhan Panic is the mechanism for getting everyone to sign on without blood running through the streets.

Posted by: X at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (C+evo)


Universal is not the right word, because you don't get a check, and you don't get a check, and you don't get a check, and...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (BiNEL)

279 >>The only way out of this is to out "free shit" the free shitters. Go HUGE.


This is why we don't come to you for advice.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (noaju)

280 Eh, people are now walking by TP on the shelves here. I mean, how much can you fit in the garage...

Posted by: Marcus T at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (VpIIl)

281 The foolish blundering of Mr. Trump has surely caused the shortage of vital paper hygiene products.

Posted by: Jimmy "The Chopper" Acosta at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (QrOoP)

282 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)
.......

Kids are out of school.
Mom: What do you want for lunch? We're out of mac'n'cheese.
Kids: _________!

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (v0R5T)

283 Open the place back up, excepting for problem areas, which don't need extensive identification.

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (90T4r)

284 Everything would be OK if we just repealed the law that actions have consequences. And truth. Just repeal truth and consequences.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (+y/Ru)

285 Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (3B0qi)

I would hope most people would if God forbid I was on that yeah I'd use all 16 weeks and save save save as much as possible and jump back in the workforce.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (hY7P/)

286
BIDEN/ALGERNON 2020

Me Go Vote Joe!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (9wmyx)

287 I missed the mystery click, thought it was gonna be Steve Miller Band, Jungle Love.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (r+sAi)

288 Line Item Veto was ruled unconstitutional back when Clinton was in office. We have a much different SCOTUS now. It might pass it brought back up

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (N39Ws)

289 The New York police are getting the virus. And they said the call in sick is 3 times the normal call ins.

Bad news for NY if this ramps up at the same time the cops leave the streets.



FESTIVAL!!!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 25, 2020 04:53 PM (juQf+)

290 283 Open the place back up, excepting for problem areas, which don't need extensive identification.


yep

hear hear!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (j9HX3)

291 Posted by: raimondo at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (wqGHU)


Retard sez wut?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (oVJmc)

292 The only way out of this is to out "free shit" the free shitters. Go HUGE. Use the total reset to reshape the country and bring stability to the middle class.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (mrrpT)


That is why they are going big.

And trying to help the key points of jobs/workers. I see them truly strategizing to come up with the best way to have the trickle up and down effect.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (vEIlU)

293 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)
.........

Well, they fit nicely in your buttcrack if you're out of TP.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (v0R5T)

294 280 Eh, people are now walking by TP on the shelves here. I mean, how much can you fit in the garage...
Posted by: Marcus T at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (VpIIl)

Only thing non existent here is hand sanitizer. And good BBQ.

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (90T4r)

295 280
Eh, people are now walking by TP on the shelves here. I mean, how much can you fit in the garage...

Posted by: Marcus T at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (VpIIl)
And now are hoarding bread yeast.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (N39Ws)

296 >>> 248 So..gorgeous sunny day and I can't go out and do what I love to do. I'm seriously pissed off. Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM


So sorry, I hate that too. And with every bark it grates on your nerves more. At night also?

Posted by: banana Dream at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (l6b3d)

297 "Trump should get out in front of it, set the parameters, and pin the onus on getting it done on Congress, and do it in such a way that makes Congress the bad guy if they try to play their usual little reindeer games."

--------------------

We know Dems will screech and should be shamed for it but if the Republicans join them they also can go to hell. Let's see who has some sense in DC.

Posted by: Decaf at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (xarPm)

298 I might as well just go back to jerking off.


... you people will never learn.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Hand at March 25, 2020 04:55 PM (noaju)

299 Posted by: raimondo at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (wqGHU)


Shut up, Dunce.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 25, 2020 04:55 PM (juQf+)

300 I keep thinking any day Trump will start his speech..

This is ludicrous. You quarantine sick people. Not every healthy person, call it shelter in place, or lockdown. You don't punish everyone with house arrest be cause some judge thought he knew best...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2020 04:55 PM (1g7ch)

301 Build That Wall

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (vEIlU)

Angel Eyes ain't sending Snake in to save DeBlasio's ass, I can guarantee that.

Posted by: Boswell at March 25, 2020 04:55 PM (32YRo)

302 But these sorts of stimulus things are actually counter productive. They drag out whatever changes the economy needs to make and delay the recovery. For years.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 04:45 PM (wGeit)

Ordinarily I would agree with you - but this is not a "Stimulus". What's about to happen, what's already begun to happen to our economy, is an Extinction Level Event. We do not survive a 50% unemployment rate, the economy NEVER "recovers" from something like that. It dies, and our society collapses.

If we can stop that process by printing $1 Trillion or $10 Trillion, or whatever, we have to do it. Because after a few more weeks without that there won't be anything left to save.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:55 PM (trdmm)

303 Police are going to start giving ONE warning and then ticketing people who flout the stay-at-home order in Chicago.


Posted by: lizabth at March 25, 2020 04:51 PM (L3Rsz)


Does that include the "youths" who are out and about contributing the death count in the city?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (Nyx5N)

304 jewells,

noise cancelling earphones. listen to music, rake your leaves and if the dogs next door come on to your property, shoot them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (d7Ww2)

305 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)
.........

It's a mystery. There was still plenty of ketchup.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (v0R5T)

306 Posted by: Blago at March 25, 2020 04:47 PM (sjTfF

I commented before this is going to be like the Deep water Horizon payouts or the Pigford payouts. A number of undeserving will always be in the mix. Nature of the beast.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (5IbVn)

307 Only thing non existent here is hand sanitizer. And good BBQ.


WinnDixie was bereft of processed meat products yesterday. I found this odd.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (juQf+)

308 Boy, that sounds like a good speech, and what not, and umm, you know, that other stuff. I wonder what Joe Biden thinks of it.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (xPYsj)

309 Eh, people are now walking by TP on the shelves here.
I apparently live in a high demand big butt community.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (r+sAi)

310

I am hoping that they never need to make it to Phase 3 and the country snaps back much faster.

With the drugs.

I am praying that the cocktail works in NY and all of this is deflated quickly.

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (vEIlU)

311 300 I keep thinking any day Trump will start his speech..

This is ludicrous. You quarantine sick people. Not every healthy person, call it shelter in place, or lockdown. You don't punish everyone with house arrest be cause some judge thought he knew best...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2020 04:55 PM (1g7ch)

Yo! Youse might not do dat, but you ain't da guvnuh of Noo Yawk!

Posted by: The Goombah Reserve at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (w+Ped)

312 I must say, working from home is much more pleasant with a couple of sleepy cats lounging around. Now I wish I could bring them to the office.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (+0AKE)

313 So I have been looking at this situation more long-term and how this precedent affects us for other issues. I hope I am off base, but... I'm worried. My thoughts...

Keep in mind that these "stay-at-home" orders are not because Governors and mayors are looking out for your health.

It is because they do not trust you to do their suggested actions:

--- wash your hands
--- social distancing
--- stay home if you're sick

So, because they do not trust you to do as they suggest, they are taking away your choice altogether and taking away your freedom and liberty.

Now, recall that politicians have been calling for these same type of limitations and banning of freedoms and liberties in the name of "climate change".

Heck, they already ban things in the name of "climate change":

--- light bulbs
--- plastic bags
--- straws
--- not banning, but regulations for greenhouse gas emissions and MPG
--- California actually does ban certain types of gasoline

The precedent has now been set that politicians are now going to take action "for your own good" and take away freedom and liberty, instead of understanding that a free society is not a utopia where nothing bad happens.

Keep this in mind as well about your 2nd Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. This same "for your own good" argument will be made by these same freedom-stealing politicians to justify their decision to take away 2nd Amendment rights.

Consider that the CDC says that 15,549 people were "killed by guns" in 2017.

Now consider that the USA death count from COVID-19 stands at: 819

If governors and mayors will take away your rights over 819 deaths, you really think they'll not take them away over 15,000+ annual deaths?

Lastly, keep in mind that this orchestrated freak-out was because of ONE "model" run by the same people who do "climate change" models predicting "the end of the world" in 10 years.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (Do5/p)

314 Mo money
Mo Money
MO MONEY

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (pw+jk)

315 So sorry, I hate that too. And with every bark it grates on your nerves more. At night also?

Well, not when it's dark, but I can't garden in the dark. I mean I have SOME superpowers but that's not one of them.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (dUJdY)

316 Universal is not the right word, because you don't get a check, and you don't get a check, and you don't get a check, and...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (BiNEL)


When O'fumblestick passed out checks no one in my family received one.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (Sod+H)

317 Potentially there are 50 governors offering various levels of relief and it has become a contest. But I am willing to relocate to the first state who offers $10,000 a month per adult, $5,000 per kiddies, mortgages paid in full, all student loans forgiven, and a brand new spanking car of your choice every year.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (jSEze)

318 You think we could get a better class of trolls

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (5bxa0)

319 I must say, working from home is much more pleasant with a couple of sleepy cats lounging around. Now I wish I could bring them to the office.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (+0AKE)


I'm getting a lot more work done since I can work straight through meetings without getting death glares.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (t+qrx)

320 These 3 pitbulls behind us are REALLY starting to piss my ass off. I ventured out to buy a rake and was going to clean out the garden beds. They've been out there for hours and bark if a fucking leaf moves. I can't let my own dog out.
Posted by: Jewells45

Before my neighbor fenced his shitting machines in his backyard, I started using chili powder as a chemical fence. Not sure if that would work for you, unless you loaded it into a supersquirter.

Posted by: Downcast at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (xgpfE)

321 That is why they are going big.

And trying to help the key points of jobs/workers. I see them truly strategizing to come up with the best way to have the trickle up and down effect.
Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (vEIlU)


They're at 10% of HUGE right now. Also, they're trying to do this with borrowed money.

Does that work in your household?

If you had tons of assets - car collection, valuable paintings, land, etc. - and a crisis required a ton of money, would it be more responsible for you to borrow cash or sell assets?

I say sell. Pay off all the debt and start fresh.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (mrrpT)

322 Stopped in Sprouts for some chicken since Walmart had NOTHING. Only thing they were out of was breasts. They had everything else.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (dUJdY)

323 252 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)


Because that's all a lot of people know how to cook.
Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:52 PM (mrrpT)
.........

I only put them in the microwave for 10 minutes.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (v0R5T)

324 So..gorgeous sunny day and I can't go out and do what I love to do. I'm seriously pissed off.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM
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Maybe offer them a treat? Got any fish tank cleaner around?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (Dhht7)

325 WD=>2020!

Posted by: Simplemind at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (Pubvw)

326 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (+y/Ru)

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Heh.

Copied and forwarded.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (WEBkv)

327 if the dogs next door come on to your property, shoot them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (d7Ww2)


Officer, I was in mortal fear for my life...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (BiNEL)

328 This is ludicrous. You quarantine sick people. Not every healthy person, call it shelter in place, or lockdown

It must be said!!!

15 days was insane, but we're almost there. Then THAT IS IT

Quarantine the SICK

FREE the healthy!

stop this idiocy NOW. let people live their lives again!

now we can see - the projections were wrong, you can't just keep saying "two more weeks" over and over "oh well not today but in two weeks!"

come on!

and NOW we can clearly see the OTHER side of this risk-aversion ledger - millions unemployed, impoverished, businesses shuttered, logistics starting to fail...

see it? shutting down the USA for weeks and weeks is not a cost-free option

Euope does stuff like this, because no one really DEPENDS on the Euros for anything much. They can "close down" for the month of August - we can't!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (j9HX3)

329 Well, not when it's dark, but I can't garden in the dark. I mean I have SOME superpowers but that's not one of them.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (dUJdY)

Where are you that you're not allowed to go outside???

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (trdmm)

330 Ace, excellent concept.

Trump would win reelection and crush the HOR and senate in November if he did what you propose.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (pw+jk)

331 Checks in the mail. You can always send it back!

Posted by: raimondo at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (wqGHU)

332 Yeah, I have to conference call into a few meetings. Lost count of how many times they've caught me not paying attention.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (+0AKE)

333 5PM EDT,
Members of the Coronavirus Task Force Hold a Press Briefing

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (Sod+H)

334 You know, a new Colt Python should run about $1200.

Posted by: Judge Dredd at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (QrOoP)

335 I must say, working from home is much more pleasant with a couple of sleepy cats lounging around. Now I wish I could bring them to the office.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM (+0AKE)


My husband made me laugh on a video conference with work the other day.

Working from home, dress shirt, but shorts.

He was half comfy

Posted by: OutsideTheBeltway at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (vEIlU)

336 322 Stopped in Sprouts for some chicken since Walmart had NOTHING. Only thing they were out of was breasts. They had everything else.


yes the new Sprouts near me has been great!

weird about the chicken thing tho

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (j9HX3)

337 Downcast.. we are getting a privacy fence but not until May. It was the soonest they could do it. And yeah.. we are out $6500 because of those assholes. Can't sell a house with a neighbor that has 3 pitbulls.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (dUJdY)

338 >>> 315 Well, not when it's dark, but I can't garden in the dark. I mean I have SOME superpowers but that's not one of them. Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:57 PM

It's just after a certain hour ordinances kick in that could end the barking problem with enough calls from neighbors.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (l6b3d)

339 Fuck he stimulus. The prez just needs to tell businesses to open and get people back to work.

This virus scam has gone on too long.

Posted by: Sooner at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (RDnPA)

340 Everyone is counting on the government to give enough to prevent millions of middle class people from dropping into poverty...

It's a false hope. The government cannot prevent millions of middle class people from dropping into poverty. Even a relatively short disruption in the world economy means our societies are poorer. Now, you can move around the remaining wealth and force some people take the brunt of it while others don't feel any pain, but you can't get around that missing wealth.

Fortunately, the economy will recover quickly if left alone. People who have worked all their lives will get jobs when jobs become available.

But the government can prevent that from happening by introducing distortions into the economy. That's why socialist countries are poor. Every dollop of free shit the government provides today will create a constituency that will hang on to that subsidy regardless of facts on the ground. And if the government borks the economy people will need those subsidies on a long term basis. This is how you get Venezuela.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (wGeit)

341 AvE built a prototype vent in his shop using off the shelf items. We need more people like this.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (dNzKv)

342 Euope does stuff like this, because no one really
DEPENDS on the Euros for anything much. They can "close down" for the
month of August - we can't!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 04:59 PM (j9HX3)

===
Not exactly true.
Italy takes off July.
France takes off August
Germany takes off September.
They spread the vacos around.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (pw+jk)

343 And another thing, why aren't we hearing about progress on a vaccine ? That would definitely quell the panic. ( unless of course that the news is a vaccine is not possible but that's not what I've read thus far)

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (5IbVn)

344 Before my neighbor fenced his shitting machines in his backyard, I started using chili powder as a chemical fence. Not sure if that would work for you, unless you loaded it into a supersquirter.

Posted by: Downcast at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (xgpfE)


Industrial can (or more) of red pepper

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (BiNEL)

345 Eh, people are now walking by TP on the shelves here.

I apparently live in a high demand big butt community.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 04:56 PM (r+sAi)
..........

Me too. I'm starting to check peoples rear as they walk by to see if they have crapped themselves.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (v0R5T)

346 Look, I'm not saying that a bailout is the best idea. I'm not saying it isn't. But it certainly looks like there's one coming, and Trump should get out in front of it, set the parameters, and pin the onus on getting it done on Congress, and do it in such a way that makes Congress the bad guy if they try to play their usual little reindeer games.

Posted by: WeirdDave at 04:15 PM

Seems like, thanks to the uproar from so many people regarding Pelosi's bill, President Trump didn't even need to get out front. Others righteously shamed Pelosi and the Democrats for him.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (Do5/p)

347 Stratego, motherfuckers.


Stratego.
Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 04:39 PM (

++++

American Heritage's "Civil War"

HA! I WIN AGAIN!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (T09ml)

348 The problem with all these games and the modeling of Wuhan Flu spread is that they tend to model not true infections, only contact. That is, they model the likelihood that people are exposed to and might carry the virus, but not how many get seriously ill from it. So the numbers can be enormous and exponential but not necessarily representative of how illness spreads.

Further complicating this is the fact that the infectious degree (virulence) of the Wuhan Flu is not nearly as high as originally believed but many are still using the old models

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (KZzsI)

349 337 Downcast.. we are getting a privacy fence but not until May. It was the soonest they could do it. And yeah.. we are out $6500 because of those assholes. Can't sell a house with a neighbor that has 3 pitbulls.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (dUJdY)

Who are these people, meth heads??

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (90T4r)

350 Jewels

Do you know your neighbors? I would talk to the dogs and give them a treat.
My friend has a watchdog that barks when anyone walks in front of her house. She barks at strangers in the neighbors backyard until the neighbors say be quiet, Allie.
She barks at me until I pet her. She's a good alarm.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (7bcfy)

351 And another thing, why aren't we hearing about progress on a vaccine ? That would definitely quell the panic. ( unless of course that the news is a vaccine is not possible but that's not what I've read thus far)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (5IbVn)


This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)

352 Not exactly true.
Italy takes off July.
France takes off August
Germany takes off September.
They spread the vacos around


lol ok

so we take off March from now on then?!!?

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (j9HX3)

353 Fox says the presser will be "soon". 2 Scoops has stuck a finger in the network's eyes by moving the presser to their precious evening news hours.

Posted by: dingbat at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (KylN9)

354 And another thing, why aren't we hearing about progress on a vaccine ? That would definitely quell the panic. ( unless of course that the news is a vaccine is not possible but that's not what I've read thus far)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (5IbVn)
++++++++++
Experimental vaccine has been developed and administered. It's down to time, now. There won't be routine developments. A vaccine update will consist of "We still have one in trials, with more information to come in a couple of months. We still have 3-4 ongoing investigations into additional vaccine formulas in the event that this one fails. We'll trial them in parallel as they become available. We'll know for sure in about a year."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (e/H31)

355 It's just after a certain hour ordinances kick in that could end the barking problem with enough calls from neighbors.

It's 10:00 where I live and like I said they have been reported once already.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)

356 anyone within 800 miles of western MA

know where a titty bar is open

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (rpxSz)

357
Seems like, thanks to the uproar from so many people regarding Pelosi's bill, President Trump didn't even need to get out front. Others righteously shamed Pelosi and the Democrats for him.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 25, 2020 05:01 PM (Do5/p)


Cept there is still Pelosi bullshit in there.

Money for the Kennedy Center!

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (ZfRYq)

358 I'm not saying there's no value to computer models, but their predictive value can be quite poor if the initial assumptions are poorly chosen.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (+0AKE)

359 Shelter in place until April 10 in MN - with 261 cases and 1 death. Insane.

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (aKgvL)

360 anyone within 800 miles of western MA

know where a titty bar is open
Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (rpxSz)


New business idea: Speakeasy titty shop.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (dNzKv)

361 Further complicating this is the fact that the infectious degree (virulence) of the Wuhan Flu is not nearly as high as originally believed but many are still using the old models


hmm I thought ace said that "virulence" meant how severe/deadly the bug was but anyway - going with your use of it - yes this is clearly not as "catchy" as was advertised. nor as ace-virulent neither

the models are why the governors are going all Stalin

at some point We the People need to say No Mas!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (j9HX3)

362 One thing I haven't seen mentioned, instead of relying on the government, would be to let those under 59 1/2 have access to their 401k money without penalty.

Posted by: WTP at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (WQfDg)

363 The presser will begin as soon as the valets can squeeze Trump into his girdle...

Posted by: Ronald Drumpf at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (MRH9j)

364 >>>If you had tons of assets - car collection, valuable paintings, land, etc. - and a crisis required a ton of money, would it be more responsible for you to borrow cash or sell assets?

I say sell. Pay off all the debt and start fresh.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (mrrpT)



Knew a guy that was a millionaire three times.

Every time *it hit the fan he sold everything. (Except his wife) Cars, collections, home, - everything.

He died a millionaire.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (Sod+H)

365 This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)

we need a vaccine -making montage with a cool theme song

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (G546f)

366 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)

====
Eventually the the 12 hotdogs and ten buns come to an unforeseen painful ending.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (pw+jk)

367 353 Fox says the presser will be "soon". 2 Scoops has stuck a finger in the network's eyes by moving the presser to their precious evening news hours.
Posted by: dingbat at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (KylN9)


They were bitching that he wanted it in primetime.

So he moved it.

Now what are they going to say?

HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (ZfRYq)

368 Potentially there are 50 governors offering various levels of relief and it has become a contest. But I am willing to relocate to the first state who offers $10,000 a month per adult, $5,000 per kiddies, mortgages paid in full, all student loans forgiven, and a brand new spanking car of your choice every year.
Posted by: washrivergal at March 25, 2020 04:58 PM (jSEze)
-------

Add in our choice of ice cream for life and I'll move in right next to you.

Posted by: bluebell at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (/669Q)

369 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)
.........

Well, they fit nicely in your buttcrack if you're out of TP.
Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (v0R5T)

Very smart, I was cutting the burger buns in half

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (M+Lyo)

370 Every dollop of free shit the government provides today will create a constituency that will hang on to that subsidy regardless of facts on the ground. And if the government borks the economy people will need those subsidies on a long term basis. This is how you get Venezuela.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (wGeit)

Well guess what - as of today, we ARE Venezuela. It's already happened, although it will take a few weeks for the economic implications of that to become apparent. We now have no more of an economy left than Maduro does. If we just sit back and let things follow their natural course, it would take decades to get back and the REAL socialists would take power long before that. Trump is trying to keep us from that fate, and he is following the only path that I see as possible. I don't know if it will work, but any other course guarantees total disaster.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (trdmm)

371 Will no one rid us of these troublesome trolls?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (5bxa0)

372
It's 10:00 where I live and like I said they have been reported once already.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)

It sounds like they're not trained and need a bark collar. I bet they're bored.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (7bcfy)

373 all the hookers are sheltering in place

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (rpxSz)

374 365 This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)


IF THIS ISN'T TV HOW COME DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT?

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (ZfRYq)

375 He couldn't sit still. If he had been born today they would fill him full of drugs and he'd be sitting in the corner.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (Sod+H)

376 "Fortunately, the economy will recover quickly if left alone. People who have worked all their lives will get jobs when jobs become available."
osted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (wGeit)


By that time, millions of people will be in default of their debt, be unable to secure any new credit and be shoved down the lowest rung on the ladder.

Sure, after the economy recovers they could get another job and maybe, if they bust their ass, they can work up to a 650 credit rating again.

No, that's not acceptable. If it gets anywhere near that people will be rioting in the street.

Fix the problem. Don't dick around.

Posted by: jwest at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (mrrpT)

377 365 This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)

we need a vaccine -making montage with a cool theme song
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (G546f)


That sounds as effective as my mental cleaning-the-house montage.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (wGeit)

378 IF THIS ISN'T TV HOW COME DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT?
Posted by: blaster

*snort*

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (d7Ww2)

379 This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)
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Surely you jest. It worked that way on Eureka, every episode.

Posted by: bluebell at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (/669Q)

380 Just got a little postcard in the snail mail with 'President Trump's Coronavirus Guidelines for America.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (oVJmc)

381 348 The problem with all these games and the modeling of Wuhan Flu spread is that they tend to model not true infections, only contact. That is, they model the likelihood that people are exposed to and might carry the virus, but not how many get seriously ill from it. So the numbers can be enormous and exponential but not necessarily representative of how illness spreads.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM

I have not seen this anywhere, but are there any models showing how the seasonal flu spreads? I mean, there should be, right? Since seasonal flu has been happening for decades now? And we never worry about it, so there must be some model somewhere showing the spread of regular flu and showing that it is not an issue.

Would be nice to compare the models of how seasonal flu spreads and the models of how SARS-CoV-2 spreads.

Hell, while we're at it, compare it to the spread of all viruses in the past, just to give people a comparison. SARS-CoV-1, MERS, Ebola, H1N1, H3N2, etc.

Isn't that normally what the media would do? Show comparisons?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (Do5/p)

382 Too many people build a big damn cage in the back yard , throw dogs in the cage and haul ass to work , school or whatever thinking that they are the best pet-owners EVAR.


Dog sits in the yard abandoned wondering what the hell he did wrong to get kicked out of the pack.




Dogs are social animals. Unless you train them to be anti-social. By doing things like throwing them into a caged backyard and letting them bark their heads off all day.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (mw1Wz)

383 Cept there is still Pelosi bullshit in there.

Money for the Kennedy Center!

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (ZfRYq)


It helps if you think of the Democrat Party as a recurrent disease, with a deadly outbreak every day or so!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (BiNEL)

384 Oh ffs, part of the senate bill hold up was that schumer wanted any Trump property exempted from help.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (r+sAi)

385
It's 10:00 where I live and like I said they have been reported once already.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)

I've heard that pitbulls find antifreeze mighty tasty. Lap it right up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (trdmm)

386 >>You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)

The labs need to be more, umm, "assertively incentivized."
IYKWZMAITTYD.

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (qXNVo)

387 we need a vaccine -making montage with a cool theme song
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (G546f)


Yes! With the DNA spiraling on computer screens and sciency looking stuff projected onto glass while a scientist moves molecules around the screens with their hands.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (dNzKv)

388 NOT RECOMMENDED FOR THE PET THREAD

Before my neighbor fenced his shitting machines in his backyard, I started using chili powder as a chemical fence.

There is always the ground up glass and hamburger technique.

Posted by: 🐧 at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (C+evo)

389 New business idea: Speakeasy titty shop.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (dNzKv)


I still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)

390 228----Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 25, 2020 04:46 PM (+y/Ru)
------------------------------

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (M/9m0)

391 Philly asking New Yorkers coming in to self quarantine for 14 days

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (G546f)

392 I agree, if your dog is chained up all day by itself, then you shouldn't have a dog you should have a cat. They sleep all day.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (+0AKE)

393 (MRH9j)

Fuck Off, BSG

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (mw1Wz)

394 Hot dog buns?

They (Wally) didn't have mothballs; Tractor Supply did.

Do they have Tractor Supply in NY?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (Sod+H)

395
And now are hoarding bread yeast.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


Which is silly because you can keep a starter in your fridge and feed it every other day and have virtually an infinite supply.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (7JECj)

396 This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.


What if it's developed by a women-led, properly diverse group of notably young, sexy scientists?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2020 05:08 PM (oVJmc)

397 I still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)
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We're talking about female barbers right?

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (aKgvL)

398
Dogs are social animals. Unless you train them to be anti-social. By doing things like throwing them into a caged backyard and letting them bark their heads off all day.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (mw1Wz)

I feel sorry for lonely dogs too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (7bcfy)

399 I've heard that pitbulls find antifreeze mighty tasty. Lap it right up.

It's not the dogs fault it's the owners fault... Make them drink it

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (5bxa0)

400 DDT style vintage fumigator on Etsy
https://preview.tinyurl.com/vfh7x6z

It might work with the chili powder on the pit bulls.

Posted by: Downcast at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (xgpfE)

401 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)

.........



Well, they fit nicely in your buttcrack if you're out of TP.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (v0R5T)



Very smart, I was cutting the burger buns in half

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (M+Lyo)

===You all had buns?
You was lucky.
I've had to use corn tortillas for over a week.

P.S. corn tortillas are not absorbent. They smear.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (pw+jk)

402 still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)


You haven't seen my barber.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (dNzKv)

403 New business idea: Speakeasy titty shop.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (dNzKv)
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"Bikini Baristas" sort of have that covered. Or, uncovered.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (WEBkv)

404 >>>I've heard that pitbulls find antifreeze mighty tasty.

Evil.

Posted by: Ronald Drumpf at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (MRH9j)

405 This isn't tv. You don't just "make" a vaccine one day, test it on a patient, declare it a success and inoculate the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:02 PM (dNzKv)

No one said that or even implied that but you know that. You should also visit some of your posts from weeks ago.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (5IbVn)

406 Just think, six months ago, approximately half the country thought that people's freedom of movement and association was protected and should be defended, and income redistribution was considered welfare or worse.

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (qXNVo)

407 Look, as painful as this is to consider, former Obama officials are asking this question: where's the Tea Party on this stimulus bill? Why are you not upset at DOUBLE the cost being spent by the government?

And they have a point. How can we oppose a bill half the size by Obama to handle an economic disaster and be okay with this? Answer: we cannot be.

Its not like we can strap on the tricorner hat and protest, while constitutional rights have been suspended by governors across the nation in the name of emergency but...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (KZzsI)

408 I feel sorry for lonely dogs too.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (7bcfy)

do ya now ??

call me

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (rpxSz)

409 Tubal..lol!! This is actually a nice neighborhood but I'm seeing things that I don't like. Ya'll remember me talking about the guy who was tearing up his deck?? It's that house. He tore the deck off then tried to sell the house. The guy was a real weirdo. He couldn't sell the house the way it was so hastily put up a set of stairs and a handrail. This chick bought it and brought her 3 pitbulls and boxer with her. It's been hell ever since.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (dUJdY)

410 I still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)
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I don't know if you are thinking this through. I have no desire to see the guy who cuts my husband's hair go topless, and neither does my husband.

Posted by: bluebell at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (/669Q)

411 By that time, millions of people will be in default of their debt, be unable to secure any new credit and be shoved down the lowest rung on the ladder.

Three things:
1. Credit, for an individual, isn't a way to generate wealth. It's a trap.

2. Banks aren't stupid. They know this is an unusual event and they'll adjust accordingly.

3. I question whether people would be unable to secure credit. I had a gf who was constantly doing the thing where you pay off one credit card with another. She went bankrupt twice. She was making $13/hr and owed the IRS almost ten grand. And she didn't have any trouble getting credit.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (wGeit)

412 New business idea: Speakeasy titty shop.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:04 PM (dNzKv)


Drive through titty bar!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (BiNEL)

413 Bernie wants to blow up the Senate deal.

Posted by: WisRich at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (OAlmw)

414
I still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)


I would be on board with that.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

415 384 Oh ffs, part of the senate bill hold up was that schumer wanted any Trump property exempted from help.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (r+sAi)

It is Trump but it's also VP, any congressperson, any dept. head and any kid or relative.

Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (cF8AT)

416 We're talking about female barbers right?
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (aKgvL)
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"Chip N Dale's Hair Dressing Emporium" might work for the ladies.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (WEBkv)

417 Bernie wants to blow up the Senate deal.

Let me guess? Student loan forgiveness and Universal health care?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (5bxa0)

418 No one said that or even implied that but you know that. You should also visit some of your posts from weeks ago.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (5IbVn)


What? Like the post on March 9th where I said we would be over 32,000 by march 24, and we hit the milestone the evening of the 23rd?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (dNzKv)

419 Just make a FICA tax holiday for 6 months for Businesses and those employed to free up money in the private sector. This would go a long way to relieving economic strains.

Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (+tUWj)

420 Imma go with Scott Adams something he was talking about yesterday. Draw out the size and shape of the problems we are facing.

State the requirement: we need X ventilators.

State the currrent situation: we have Y ventilators

State the path from current to required: Z ventilators are being produced and should become available on this schedule.


I hear bitching from Cuomo about WHERE ARE THE VENTILATORS.

Okay, tell him. Tell everyone.

That Coastie who is in charge of the logistics swim lane should be doing this in the briefing.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (ZfRYq)

421 I don't know if you are thinking this through. I have no desire to see the guy who cuts my husband's hair go topless, and neither does my husband.
Posted by: bluebell at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (/669Q)


Nobody asked for it. It's just the way things are. This is the world we live in now.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (t+qrx)

422 376 "Fortunately, the economy will recover quickly if left alone. People who have worked all their lives will get jobs when jobs become available."
osted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:00 PM (wGeit)

No way - this is sadly, very wishful thinking. Even now, 75% of the restaurants in the country may never reopen. Movie theaters may never reopen. All the people who had jobs serving those industries are now unemployed. All the people who those unemployed people use to buy things from now see their incomes dropping, and cut more of their employees in turn.
This is the Deflationary Death Spiral, and it is damned hard to break once it sets in.

We are looking at a 30% DROP in GDP for the second quarter, that is a Morgan Stanley forecast. Nothing like that has ever happened in history before, not even during the Great Depression.

As I said before, economically this is an Extinction Level Event.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (trdmm)

423 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (KZzsI)

Those are the old rules.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (wp6Bm)

424 Sounds good to me. He's got them over a barrel; what a great opportunity. Will he? I don't think so. He'll sign some partially larded up shit sandwich and tell us what a swell guy McConnell is.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (H8QX8)

425 I've heard that pitbulls find antifreeze mighty tasty. Lap it right up.

It's not the dogs fault it's the owners fault... Make them drink it
Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (5bxa0)


Antifreeze is pretty sweet in flavor, so most animals would likely drink it if offered.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (Zz0t1)

426 Ya'll remember me talking about the guy who was tearing up his deck??
It's that house. He tore the deck off then tried to sell the house.
The guy was a real weirdo.


I had a neighbor that rented a giant Backhoe and dug out his entire backyard. Only thing I could figure was he wanted a pool that covered the whole property.


Looked like the Grand Canyon.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (mw1Wz)

427 >>410
I still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)

This is the kind of visionary entrepreneurialism that America longs for.
"Number one around the sides and back, high, and just a little off the top. Also, full release."

Posted by: Zod at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (qXNVo)

428 415 384 Oh ffs, part of the senate bill hold up was that schumer wanted any Trump property exempted from help.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (r+sAi)

It is Trump but it's also VP, any congressperson, any dept. head and any kid or relative.
Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 05:10 PM (cF8AT)
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Yeah, they applied to Congress as well....so they say.

Posted by: WisRich at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (OAlmw)

429 I think the overlap between "women I want to see topless and who want to be"... and "people who can cut my hair well" is pretty damn near nonexistent

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (KZzsI)

430
I hear bitching from Cuomo about WHERE ARE THE VENTILATORS.

He wants 30 thousand... Does he really believe he would need that many?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (5bxa0)

431 Why is there a shortage of hotdog buns?

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2020 04:49 PM (kaRXo)

.........



Well, they fit nicely in your buttcrack if you're out of TP.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 04:54 PM (v0R5T)



Very smart, I was cutting the burger buns in half

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 25, 2020 05:05 PM (M+Lyo)

===You all had buns?
You was lucky.
I've had to use corn tortillas for over a week.

P.S. corn tortillas are not absorbent. They smear.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (pw+jk)

you have to warm them up

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (M+Lyo)

432 You haven't seen my barber.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (dNzKv)


I haven't seen mine topless, but I would like to...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (BiNEL)

433 I gotta say...I'm a little shocked at all the advise on how to kill a dog. Really?

Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (cF8AT)

434 Oh goodness I would never harm an animal. It's the owners fault. I even talked to her once and said maybe we should just keep an eye out and if my dog is out could you just wait a few minutes? He's never out more than 15 minutes. She says oh sure... yea.. right.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (dUJdY)

435 Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (5IbVn)


Well, when you say "Why haven't we heard any vaccine updates" It implies that you are expecting some kind of daily progress.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (dNzKv)

436 Its not like we can strap on the tricorner hat and protest, while constitutional rights have been suspended by governors across the nation in the name of emergency but...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM

Bingo.

They didn't even have to take our guns away to make us impotent. Just freak everyone out with a scary sounding flu virus, order lockdowns and then pass $2 trillion spending bills.

Damn lot of good the 2nd Amendment does us when everyone is being good little peasants and locking themselves in their homes.

The left could not have asked for a better outcome.

In fact, they pulled a Trump. They proposed a $6 Trillion bill and "settled" for a $2 Trillion bill.

Let that sink in...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (Do5/p)

437 Nips and Clips

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (noaju)

438
Bernie wants to blow up the Senate deal.




Not enough gulag funding?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (Nyx5N)

439 The over hype is done on purpose, the models showing 1/2 the country getting it is the same as the global warming predictions using the hockey stick graphic.
Then those wanting everything blown up pass it on to Leftist government officials that want the news to clamp down on the population using fear.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (ZCEU2)

440 Location, location, location in real estate has more than one level of meaning.

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (90T4r)

441 433 I gotta say...I'm a little shocked at all the advise on how to kill a dog. Really?

I agree... enough...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (5bxa0)

442 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (trdmm)

The wishful thinking part is the government can prevent economic collapse by printing money. It won't work, and in the end it will make us all poorer.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (wGeit)

443 One thing I haven't seen mentioned, instead of relying on the government, would be to let those under 59 1/2 have access to their 401k money without penalty.

I would pull every single bit of that tax deferred loot out ASAP, then put it right back in to the market in things that they wouldn't let us invest in while in these funds.

Posted by: 🐧 at March 25, 2020 05:14 PM (C+evo)

444 Nood lick.

Really

Posted by: Tonypete at March 25, 2020 05:14 PM (Y4EXg)

445 He wants 30 thousand... Does he really believe he would need that many?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (5bxa0)


It has to be enough that he can blame the President for failing to deliver them ALL!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 25, 2020 05:14 PM (BiNEL)

446 Well, if it applies to congress, then boeing won't be getting any because I bet they all have that stock now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2020 05:14 PM (r+sAi)

447 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (dNzKv)

Keep reading.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (5IbVn)

448 ===You all had buns?
You was lucky.
I've had to use corn tortillas for over a week.

P.S. corn tortillas are not absorbent. They smear.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (pw+jk)
.........

While we're making Sloppy Joes you're stuck with chalupas.
Sad.

Posted by: wth at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (v0R5T)

449 414
I still think a topless barber shop is a moneymaker.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)

I went to a Boxing themed barbershop full of hotties once. Gave me a free beer, that quickly got covered with hair. I suggested that they get a cornerman's squirt bottle and hit me with a shot of beer on demand. No dice.

Posted by: Downcast at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (xgpfE)

450 WiseDave


Weird!

Posted by: kactus at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (K+AOO)

451 Jewells45

Had same problem with a neighbor who bought a barky dog to force us to sell. Let it out at night to bark ALL NIGHT LONG.
So after 2 weeks of this I would go over a 0200 hrs and wake them up . They moved.

Posted by: azalea city at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (WX+x0)

452 Sanders is threatening to put a hold on the stimulus bill because R senators are pointing out the Ds inserted an extra $600 per week unemployment benefit that would be on top of what state law allows. All of the R senators (at the press conference) are pointing out that it is stupid to pay people more for staying home than they would get for working. One of them pointed out that a $15 an hour wage earner would be getting $24 an hour to not work and that that is no way to get an economy back moving.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 25, 2020 05:16 PM (nAiE/)

453 356 You may want to go to the Marti Gras in Springfield, Mass. Although you my be safer getting a lapdance in WuHan.

Posted by: Regular joe at March 25, 2020 05:17 PM (6/uwW)

454 417 Bernie wants to blow up the Senate deal.

Let me guess? Student loan forgiveness and Universal health care?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:11 PM (5bxa0)
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Nope. Miss Lindsey and some other GOP's found a draft error that would have paid an unemployed person more than when he was employed and wants to fix it so they're limited to "only" 100% of their wages.

Bernie said no way.

Posted by: WisRich at March 25, 2020 05:17 PM (OAlmw)

455 You all had buns?
You was lucky.
I've had to use corn tortillas for over a week.

P.S. corn tortillas are not absorbent. They smear.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (pw+jk)
.........

While we're making Sloppy Joes you're stuck with chalupas.
Sad.
Posted by: wth


Scored hamburger buns and two cans of Manwhich. Had the ground beef.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2020 05:18 PM (Vddbf)

456 #5 in Dave's Plan calls for a government run web site.

Posted by: george at March 25, 2020 05:18 PM (uL/je)

457 Ordinarily I would agree with you - but this is not a "Stimulus". What's about to happen, what's already begun to happen to our economy, is an Extinction Level Event. We do not survive a 50% unemployment rate, the economy NEVER "recovers" from something like that. It dies, and our society collapses.

If we can stop that process by printing $1 Trillion or $10 Trillion, or whatever, we have to do it. Because after a few more weeks without that there won't be anything left to save.
Posted by: Tom Servo
_______________

If we're talking about Trump's chances in November, I would agree.

But if I was in charge, it would largely be some sort of tax holiday and then call it a day. And I think we'd be fine.

All TARP did was bail out a lot of businesses that should have gone under anyway.

And companies like Chrysler and GM are probably going to go under once again regardless.

Posted by: Blago at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (sjTfF)

458 Well.

Well, then.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (t+qrx)

459 The lickers of toilet seats and produce have vanished into the void, it seems.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (DTX3h)

460 And then just like that, it was gone.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (ZfRYq)

461
The wishful thinking part is the government can prevent economic collapse by printing money. It won't work, and in the end it will make us all poorer.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:13 PM (wGeit)

What I'm trying to say is that we've already lost everything, it will become obvious as it works through the system. If we do nothing, you'l see the stock market collapse to much less then 10K, and then a liquidity crisis as the banks all start to collapse in turn. (it's all happened before, in 1930 and 31) And then as sales collapse, home prices, every store of value will collapse. We cannot go to 50% unemployment, which is where we're headed, and survive. Our only chance is to get out in front of this, no matter WHAT the cost, and stop the collapse before it becomes irreversible.

At least I know that Donald Trump agrees with me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (trdmm)

462 What happened to the Nood?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (5bxa0)

463 WeirdDave


Wise!

Posted by: kactus at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (K+AOO)

464 ...A fitting punishment!

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (DTX3h)

465 The 'Rona virus killed the NOOD!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (ptqGC)

466 Well, that was a waste of time.

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (90T4r)

467 wow. that was interesting

did the shelves fall on ace or something?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (d7Ww2)

468 Which means Tonypete did a fake nood.

That's a night in the box.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (ZfRYq)

469 I lost a foot when the portal to the other thread snapped shut, but it'll grow back. Always does.

Everybody else OK?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (t+qrx)

470 P.S. corn tortillas are not absorbent. They smear.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 25, 2020 05:09 PM (pw+jk)

so I can put a tortilla on a bagel

alrighty

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (rpxSz)

471 You all had buns?
You was lucky.
I've had to use corn tortillas for over a week.

P.S. corn tortillas are not absorbent. They smear.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable


Make Naan & split it. Much more absorbent.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (Vddbf)

472 Paying people to stay at home, and no doubt the illegals too is a Leftist dream.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (ZCEU2)

473 ace just nuked his post.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (QrImU)

474 anyone within 800 miles of western MA



know where a titty bar is open

Posted by: REDACTED--I heard a rumor they are out of breasteses

Posted by: Frodo, felling better - got a meep at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (gmSu9)

475 Wow, someone talked about topless barbers, and I dreamt a nood.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (dNzKv)

476 I made a trenchant remark on the faux nood. Do I get an ace store credit?

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (90T4r)

477 The lickers of toilet seats and produce have vanished into the void, it seems.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik


Hep C hot 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (Vddbf)

478 >>ace just nuked his post.


He got out the drill and it all went south from there.

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (noaju)

479 Uh oh....What happened?

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (Zz0t1)

480 Well, husband came home from his office with a real doom and gloom outlook for his business.

So we have that going for us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (ptqGC)

481 One big difference between this economic crisis and the one in 2008-2009 is that government has shut down entire sections of the economy here. Wisely or not, the problem is self inflicted in some ways. You cannot kill someones job, and then offer nothing in return. For instance, not one waitress asked to be terminated, the government has taken that job from them.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (JRaU+)

482 Post got licked

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (aKsyK)

483 Poof!

Like magic, it's gone.

Thot was on a private plane belonging to her sugar daddy. Probably not much risk of her getting something she doesn't already have.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (z79tQ)

484 It was the "Fister.....I hardly KNEW her" joke, wasn't it.

Posted by: Sponge at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (Zz0t1)

485 I didn't hurt my neighbor's dogs. I marked a line in our unfenced yards with unpleasantly spicy powder to keep the dung off my mowing shoes.
Later when he put up his fence, the 2 beagles still followed my lawnmower, barking up a storm. I told him I was going to get out the hose and did. Bark, squirt. Bark, squirt. Bark, squirt. Until the light finally dawned. There may have been an elkbone involved as a reward, and some hog ears rewarding continued good behavior.

Posted by: Downcast at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (xgpfE)

486 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (trdmm)

So China takes over the world because they're up and running again?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (5IbVn)

487 476 I made a trenchant remark on the faux nood. Do I get an ace store credit?
Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (90T4r)

I want my 'fucking morons' back.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (QrImU)

488 osted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (5IbVn)


Clearly you have time on your hands. I'm not going through a months worth of archives. What have I said that hasn't come to fruition?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (dNzKv)

489 nood was like a North Korea virus tally

Posted by: banana Dream at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (l6b3d)

490 It's back now.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (t+qrx)

491 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (trdmm)

No, we have not "lost everything". We still have wealth. We still have resources. We still have skills. The free market will sort this out very quickly if allowed to do so.

Posted by: Hello there, fellow kids! at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (wGeit)

492 I claimed the first fister comment.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (ptqGC)

493 One big difference between this economic crisis and the one in 2008-2009 is that government has shut down entire sections of the economy here. Wisely or not, the problem is self inflicted in some ways. You cannot kill someones job, and then offer nothing in return. For instance, not one waitress asked to be terminated, the government has taken that job from them.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee


Government killed a ton of jobs. Many which won't be coming back.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (Vddbf)

494 wow. that was interesting

did the shelves fall on ace or something?
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 25, 2020 05:20 PM (d7Ww2)
-----------

Sponge hollered, "First" on comment 11, or, double one and then the thread went away.

Coincidence?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (WEBkv)

495 What should I panic over ? The imminent death of the economy, or the Hellscape of Wuhan Flu infecting us all ?

Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: I Am No One at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (0otOH)

496 474
anyone within 800 miles of western MA





know where a titty bar is open



Posted by: REDACTED--I heard a rumor they are out of breastesesCheck out the biggly-wiggly clubs in Salisbury, MA

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (N39Ws)

497 480 Well, husband came home from his office with a real doom and gloom outlook for his business.

So we have that going for us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (ptqGC)


I feel your pain.

The President knows we have to come up with a balance here. And people are like YOURE KILLING GRAMMA!

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (ZfRYq)

498 NOOD went out in a Bl@zer-like Glory

Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (noaju)

499 467 wow. that was interesting

did the shelves fall on ace or something?
Posted by: nurse ratched

probably another time traveler trying to whack baby Hitler instead of Woodrow Wilson.

Posted by: x at March 25, 2020 05:23 PM (nFwvY)

500 488 osted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 25, 2020 05:15 PM (5IbVn)


Clearly you have time on your hands. I'm not going through a months worth of archives. What have I said that hasn't come to fruition?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:22 PM (dNzKv)

Well, there was that thing about Gal Godot calling me.

Posted by: tubal at March 25, 2020 05:24 PM (90T4r)

501 158 Can one of you New Yorkers tell me why DeBlasio changed his name from Willem or whatever it was?
Posted by: Blutarski at March 25, 2020 04:38 PM (VNfwt)

Better sex.

Posted by: Caliban at March 25, 2020 05:24 PM (QE8X6)

502 Juan, you are a complete idiot!

Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2020 05:24 PM (wiXsO)

503 Off, stupid phantom thread sock.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 25, 2020 05:24 PM (wGeit)

504 If we're talking about Trump's chances in November, I would agree.

But if I was in charge, it would largely be some sort of tax holiday and then call it a day. And I think we'd be fine.

All TARP did was bail out a lot of businesses that should have gone under anyway.

And companies like Chrysler and GM are probably going to go under once again regardless.
Posted by: Blago at March 25, 2020 05:19 PM (sjTfF)

Yes, part of it IS that we are a democracy with elections in 6 months, If current leadership wants to retain power, they need to be seen to be doing *everything* possible in order to keep the confidence of the voters. Herbert Hoover made that mistake in 1932, and we got 48 years of Democrat domination of the Fed Govm't in response. It only started to break when Jimmy Carter made the same mistake in 1980.

It's true that if we were China, with dictatorial control and no reason to worry much about how the average person felt, then some things would be a good bit easier.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:26 PM (trdmm)

505 Nood, again. For reals

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy The ChiComTerrorVirus is in the house! at March 25, 2020 05:26 PM (dNzKv)

506 I'm seriously pissed off.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2020 04:48 PM (dUJdY)


Spray bottle set on "stream" with 50-50 vinegar/water mix. When dogs bark, make a harsh, growly sound (AAHT!) and spray them on the nose (not in the eyes). Repeat until they get the message.

This assumes the dogs are close enough to spray.

Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2020 05:28 PM (ouBhA)

507 497 480 Well, husband came home from his office with a real doom and gloom outlook for his business.

So we have that going for us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2020 05:21 PM (ptqGC)

This is what I've been trying to say, it's dawning slowly on people, I think. Unless something very radical is done soon, EVERY business in America (except those that are directly subsidized by government) is about to Fail.

That's why I keep repeating, economically this is an Extinction Level Event.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2020 05:28 PM (trdmm)

508 426 Ya'll remember me talking about the guy who was tearing up his deck??
It's that house. He tore the deck off then tried to sell the house.
The guy was a real weirdo.

I had a neighbor that rented a giant Backhoe and dug out his entire backyard. Only thing I could figure was he wanted a pool that covered the whole property.


Looked like the Grand Canyon.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 25, 2020 05:12 PM (mw1Wz)



Up in the country a fellow's property (5 acres) was about three feet above the road.
First, he sold the timber
Second, bull dozer and dump truck haul all the dirt down to road grade, yep, he sold it.
Third, he sold the property.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 05:29 PM (Sod+H)

509 If he wasn't doing such a good job I would bitch about his lack of punctuality.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 25, 2020 05:31 PM (Sod+H)

510 I have not seen this anywhere, but are there any models showing how the seasonal flu spreads? I mean, there should be, right? Since seasonal flu has been happening for decades now? And we never worry about it, so there must be some model somewhere showing the spread of regular flu and showing that it is not an issue.

Would be nice to compare the models of how seasonal flu spreads and the models of how SARS-CoV-2 spreads.

Hell, while we're at it, compare it to the spread of all viruses in the past, just to give people a comparison. SARS-CoV-1, MERS, Ebola, H1N1, H3N2, etc.

Isn't that normally what the media would do? Show comparisons?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 25, 2020 05:06 PM (Do5/p)

Seasonal flu gives you about 60k deaths, Covid-19 is 10x more virulent, e.g. about 600k deaths just from it (provided it is treated like the seasonal flu.)

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at March 25, 2020 05:32 PM (IB++I)

511 Why can't we pass an amendment that permanently prohibits BS additions that have nothing to do with the stated purpose of the actual legislation?

Other than the dirty fact that this is how political hacks enrich themselves and push garbage they could never get passed honestly.

Posted by: Pete at March 25, 2020 05:49 PM (YD0F1)

512 Every day when I watch these covid briefing I see how tired POTUS seems. He walks slower and speaks slower. I love his rally appearance but I understand how much this seem to weigh on him.
Pray for him.

Posted by: Abby at March 25, 2020 05:58 PM (SM/op)

513 That's a good idea to make the payment something you have to go out and claim!

I'm not exactly wealthy, but I don't really anticipate needing the money, myself. I still have a job. If the money is sent to me automatically, I'll probably go ahead and take it, just to be on the safe side. But if I have to go online and ask for it, I'm more likely to let it sit there until it's absorbed back into the Treasury.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 25, 2020 06:07 PM (H3MF8)

514 It they send me money and then make me return it all and fill out extra tax forms I'm going to kill someone.

Posted by: FlimFlammed at March 25, 2020 06:10 PM (ZTDnL)

515 LOOTING. Congress is looting in the midst of this crisis, and they ought to be treated accordingly.

Posted by: Not Enought Lampposts at March 25, 2020 06:19 PM (KcWn0)

516 fuck these reporters. WTF kind of question is "How many deaths are acceptable to you?

Posted by: vivi at March 25, 2020 06:26 PM (11H2y)

517 "I don't even know what your question is"

Posted by: vivi at March 25, 2020 06:30 PM (11H2y)

518 Well, Biden done. After all, she is a woman so even Joe will believe her.

Posted by: asquaretail at March 25, 2020 08:46 PM (DJNxi)

519 Excellent Dave!

Posted by: DeetyB at March 25, 2020 10:11 PM (gSTtN)

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