More Anecdotal Evidence That Chloroquinine Is Effective; The FDA is to Blame For the Six Weeks of Delay in Coronavirus Testing

Actor Dae Kim from Lost got the Chinese flu, and says that chloroquinine was a major factor in his quick recovery.


"I'm happy to report that my progress has continued and I feel practically back to normal," Kim said. A bit later he explained that one of the first questions he was asked when he announced his illness was "What medicines did you take?" After giving a brief disclaimer that his is not a doctor, Kim said he was prescribed a cocktail of drugs including tamiflu, the antibiotic Azithromycin, an inhaler to prevent inflammation, and hydroxychloroquine.

"And here’s what I consider to be the secret weapon: hydroxychloroquine," Kim said. He continued, "This is a common anti-malarial drug that has been used with great success in Korea in their fight against the coronavirus. And yes, this is the drug that the president mentioned the other day. It is also the drug that Dr. Anthony Fauci cautioned us about.

"He said that evidence that the drug is promising is anecdotal and that is correct. It means it wasn’t studied and is only based on personal accounts. Well add my name to those personal accounts because I am feeling better."

It's just an anecdote: His immune system might have been on the verge of beating the drug without chloroquinine.

In the same category is this woman's quick recovery.


She had been ill since March 8, toughing it out through fatigue, a cough and fevers that brought on vicious chills for five evenings straight.

Finally, on March 15, she went to an urgent care center and, on March 16, to an emergency room....

"I couldn’t breathe," she said.
...


To that point, Novins had been a pneumonia patient for three days, treated mainly with antibiotics. But within an hour, a new drug was added to her med list: hydroxychloroquine, a decades-old malaria-turned-autoimmune drug, also called by its brand name Plaquenil...

Novins' responded to the treatment. She was better, though surely not well, the next day.

"The fever," which was still spiking when she was on other meds, "is now gone, which is fantastic," she said on Saturday March 21, coughing at times but able to speak.

They note the French study which prompted all this optimism consisted of only 20 people given the chrloroquinine/azrithromycin combination. (Another 20, I think, served as a control group who were not given that combination.)

That's obviously a small sample, but still, as anecdotes accumulate they do become data.

Meanwhile, it turns out that Orange Man Bad was not responsible for the delay in coronavirus testing.

The FDA refused to expedite approvals for the test, despite a national health emergency having been declared.


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1 Good news

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:22 PM (5bxa0)

2 nd

Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (3H9h1)

3 FDA is Deep State just like every other department, and they want as many dead deplorables as they can get.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (zlgJP)

4 I'll fetch the others.

Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (3H9h1)

5 Barr is warning against price gouging and hoarding.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (SENHs)

6 How may deep-staters work at the FDA do you suppose?

Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (DF+pC)

7 Hoarders beware!

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (2GPSc)

8 I pray this works.

Trump looks tired. Pray for him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (d6Ksn)

9 Ace, the press briefing is on:

C-SPAN
https://preview.tinyurl.com/tuurz5j

The White House
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live

Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (M5wRT)

10 Game.Changer. very good.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (zr5Kq)

11 Th

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (rBtIz)

12 Great presser so far.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (ptqGC)

13 Sheeh, just try it on all the patients right now (with their consent of course). It's as though these assholes in the FDA want to purposely prolong everything.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (a0IVu)

14 Wonder if Barr will bitch about Trump talking about his price gouging investigation.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (SENHs)

15 Trump needs to fire the entire fucking government when this shit is over.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Watching Trump Go Nuclear at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (+dsLj)

16 My assumption has been we come out of this closer to being a totalitarian police state. It's still my gut. But maybe, once again, the federal government will be further discredited.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (puu6v)

17 Hoarders beware!



==


returning 2 tons of tp will be a bitch

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (zr5Kq)

18 Trump looks tired. Pray for him.

Have been praying for him and will continue to do so.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (pPNCa)

19 Barr looks "uncomfortable" for some reason.

Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (3H9h1)

20 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (arJlL)

21 FDA is Deep State just like every other department, and they want as many dead deplorables as they can get.
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Just so long as they get their perks.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (kOpft)

22 TOP.MEN infest the Civil Service throughout!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (BiNEL)

23 Trump looks tired. Pray for him.

Every day

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (5bxa0)

24 I never heard of this Daniel Day Lewis Kim actor or whatever his name is before the Chinese virus, am I supposed to give a shit about him now?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (W2foY)

25 I'll bet they have trump on the malaria drug as a preventive step.

Posted by: Pliney at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (nzKWW)

26 The FDA doesn't want you to know that they can do this in weeks. That hurts their jobs and makes them unnecessary.

Bureaucracy gotta bureaucrat.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (SENHs)

27 "3 FDA is Deep State just like every other department, and they want as many dead deplorables as they can get."

That's ironic if so, because the relatively few casualties have been in Blue areas.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (puu6v)

28 Trump is denying the existence of trans people by thanking only men and women!

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (ZfRYq)

29 I do understand the FDA's reluctance to clear this stuff, who knows what unexpected side effects or problems it might cause. This isn't Dr House where you can just experiment on people until you get it right. Sorry you almost died 3 times and got a horrific allergic reaction. House wanted to try something new. Please don't sue us again.

At the same time, this stuff should be used on every dying patient unless there is a clear conflict with their physiology or other medicine. I mean if they're gonna die, the side effects seem pretty minor in comparison.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (KZzsI)

30 Data is the plural of anecdote.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (w+Ped)

31 Top 30?

Posted by: FoodWaterAmmo at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (uwDw2)

32 Trump needs to fire the entire fucking government when this shit is over.
---

From a trebuchet

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (kOpft)

33 Thanking the truckers and the stock clerks. NICE!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (KxVoZ)

34 Your tax dollars (not) at work

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (ch6++)

35 God I hope I don't get this. I'm scared to death. Yeah.. okay tell me what a pansie I am. I dare you.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)

36 TRUE GRIT

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (iTXRQ)

37 Lets give the 2 gram dose to Nancy and study what happens.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (K04g6)

38 28Yeah, he should have also included golden dragons and buildings, like some people at Google associate as.

Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (DF+pC)

39 >> Data is the plural of anecdote.

How many anecdotes have you put on your balance sheet and what are you payin' for 'em.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (rCwaK)

40 Heh, you sure can tell when he gets off-script. It's fun to watch.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (HaL55)

41 The hatred Trump was getting on Twitter for mentioning this dug combination the other day was greater than normal.

That Eugeng Gu guy was front and center.

Can he be charged for pretending to be a doctor since he got kicked out of his residency program?

Posted by: bonhomme at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (i0wNm)

42 Wonder if Barr will bitch about Trump talking about his price gouging investigation.



Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (SENHs)

Barr has nothing better to do?

Gah, we really are fooked.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (W2foY)

43 There's Pence.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (kOpft)

44 We've replaced Nancy's Polident with new Coronavirus-o-dent.

Let's see what happens...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (KxVoZ)

45 matching ties

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (zr5Kq)

46 37 Lets give the 2 gram dose to Nancy and study what happens.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (K04g6


20. Just to be sure.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (SENHs)

47 How many questions from enemedia will be about not replacing the N95 masks? I figure most.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (VNfwt)

48 Dr. Birx looks ready to drop from exhaustion.

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (COzlW)

49 There is a small but very arrogant and dedicated cadre of doctors out there insisting this won't work and we shouldn't use it. Seems... problematic, given their job. Almost like they don't WANT it to work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (KZzsI)

50 If you want the FDA to work quikly on this, have some of the upper management get the disease and you'll se them work on it post-haste.

Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (DF+pC)

51 I had a feeling docs were already prescribing these drugs. Heard a couple of stories to confirm it too.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (cF8AT)

52 Barr is speaking now on the importance of total compliance with state government authorities....

Posted by: Lord Humongous at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (1g7ch)

53 The blue ties are at the podium. Repeat, the blue ties are at the podium.

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (gmo/4)

54 Shoot the hoarders. To set an example. I'll handle the ones at my Publix.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (ptqGC)

55 Try and picture Oblahblah, or Felonia, in this situation, thanking the truckers and stock clerks.

That's my president.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (KxVoZ)

56 quick
who has the best tie

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (iTXRQ)

57 48
Dr. Birx looks ready to drop from exhaustion.

I thought so too. I hope she's ok.

Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (K22Va)

58 We def pray for our Pres and team every day.
Hafta eat a bit of crow. The other day I scoffed at the idea of folks in Illinois receiving papers to travel to/from work.

Well, my hubby came home with traveling papers, naming him as an essential worker. Unreal!



Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (L3Rsz)

59 matching ties


From the Trump line?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (HaL55)

60 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (KZzsI)

To some extent were being played IMO.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (IYHxL)

61 FDA always thinking about Thalidomide.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)

62 49 There is a small but very arrogant and dedicated cadre of doctors out there insisting this won't work and we shouldn't use it. Seems... problematic, given their job. Almost like they don't WANT it to work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (KZzsI)

Yup.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (a0IVu)

63 Pence has the best tie, but it is a close call.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (L3Rsz)

64 From the Trump line?



lol

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (zr5Kq)

65 Barr's there to threaten anyone hoarding relevant supplies.
Wonder if that applies to China playing coy about our supply lines.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (kOpft)

66 Trump Haters have been desperate to declare hydroclorocloquinone a farce, a scam, a hoax that is lining Trump's pockets (somehow).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (oVJmc)

67 God I hope I don't get this. I'm scared to death. Yeah.. okay tell me what a pansie I am. I dare you.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)

Women have a very long memory when it comes to being wronged, and since we may cross paths again in October, OH HELL NO.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (W2foY)

68 There's no excuse for the FDA's ineptitude. Just ridiculous that they screwed around with bureaucratic bullshit for six weeks when this thing was coming at us like a freight train.

Heads should roll.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (k4dH2)

69 Well, my hubby came home with traveling papers, naming him as an essential worker. Unreal!



Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (L3Rsz)

Seriously? That's...scary.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Ez6QX)

70 God I hope I don't get this. I'm scared to death.

You might already have it. According to experts, maybe 50% of people are just not bothered by it at all. Another 48% or so get it but its nothing beyond a nasty cough, fever, congestion, etc. The death rate seems to be >1% and this stuff seems to be effective on it.

I'd call that pretty decent odds. I mean a condom fails at what, 4-6%?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (KZzsI)

71 shorturl.at/fhHIS

Read the first comment to a idea of their plans

This is from Fairfax county site

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (BiNEL)

72 61
Yeah, they also wanted to test drug therapies (psilopsybin) for the the terminally ill but required it be tested on the HEALTHY first.

Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (DF+pC)

73 My friendly neighborhood pet store has been listed as an essential service.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

74 I wish Barr would be prosecuting traitorous Democrats instead of fucking TP hoarders.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (ufFY8)

75 Try and picture Oblahblah, or Felonia, in this situation, thanking the truckers and stock clerks.

-

Ha. I see your trick. They wouldn't BE in the situation. Just a rough flu virus that is taking its toll on the elderly, nothing to report on beyond that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (41rs/)

76 Yep....seriously. Pritskerville.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (L3Rsz)

77 Trump looks tired. Pray for him.

Everyday and multiple times a day. I am glad that millions of others are praying for he and his family and his MAGA team too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (WI7YS)

78 LOL, he just mentioned TP.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (ufFY8)

79 Not enough money in a cheap drug that cures quickly. ICU cost $10k per day ... times millions of patients for days at a time ... mo' money mo' money.


Plus the arrogance of Trump to suggest a drug that has not be sanctioned by the Holiest of Holies in the Bureaucracy. DeepState is not pleased. It must be stopped at all costs.


So Bloomberg runs a Headline ... "Trump Drug Suggested can KILL with just Two Grams"

I mean really, who thinks of a headline like that? The Shadow Knows.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (Cus5s)

80 Can we get on with this? National high jacking that is. Would never mess with a thread.

Posted by: rammajamma at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (SwWMX)

81 52 Barr is speaking now on the importance of total compliance with state government authorities....

But enforcement will only be for trumpers.

Posted by: Pliney at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (nzKWW)

82 Seriously? That's...scary.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Ez6QX)

Your papers please!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (BiNEL)

83 35 God I hope I don't get this. I'm scared to death. Yeah.. okay tell me what a pansie I am. I dare you.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)

Yer a pansy. Breathe.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (w+Ped)

84 AG Barr is after Duke and Duke!

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (gmo/4)

85 Hafta eat a bit of crow. The other day I scoffed at the idea of folks in Illinois receiving papers to travel to/from work.

No worries. I'd like to shake your hand for being honest and offer a USB drink in friendship.

Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (K22Va)

86 Trump could recommend bandaging open wounds and the media would freak out.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (Uu+Jp)

87 With respect, will you people please stop drawing conclusions about Trump and the others at the presser based on their "body language?" "He looks sick." "He looks tired." "She looks like she might fall down."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (dmYb7)

88 83 35 God I hope I don't get this. I'm scared to death. Yeah.. okay tell me what a pansie I am. I dare you.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)

Scares me too Jewells

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (5bxa0)

89 FDA always thinking about Thalidomide.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)

Excellent point!


And...they have resting on their laurels for so long they have forgotten their real purpose.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (dLLD6)

90 I missed it this presser start, did Trump hammer Pelosi?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (r+sAi)

91 Barr should say hoarders will end up at Riker's Island and there is no sanitizer there, since it was hoarded.

Posted by: Roy at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (ABjxW)

92 I've had a cough and head congestion for over two months. I assume it's just the nasty pollen and my annual allergies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (ptqGC)

93 We're from the Government, we're here to help!

AAAWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

/runs away screaming

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (NgKpN)

94

I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS!

Posted by: AltonJackson
If you are finished, unload & show clear
at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (DUIap)

95 Getting a bureacracy to move quickly is like getting an aircraft carrier to do a U-Turn on a two lane road. Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Pete Seria at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (7ZQe3)

96 "If you are sitting on a warehouse of masks, you will be hearing a knock on your door."
-- Barr

Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (M5wRT)

97 Thank you, Dartist. Stiff gin and tonic, please.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (L3Rsz)

98 Well, my hubby came home with traveling papers, naming him as an essential worker. Unreal!

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29

Great! I got mine last week. However, local authorities want me to get lanyard with laminated ID. Stupid.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (Dhht7)

99 I'd call that pretty decent odds. I mean a condom fails at what, 4-6%?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (KZzsI)


Tell me about it.

Posted by: Webb Hubbell at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (2N7oZ)

100 Posted by: Frasier Crane at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (dmYb7)

She looks like she just got laid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (dLLD6)

101 The Trump serum.

Posted by: Redenzo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (E7vND)

102
Dae Kim?
He's a homosexual, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (PMDgy)

103 I mean really, who thinks of a headline like that? The Shadow Knows.

Our enemies, who are legion.


I really do wonder how much longer we're going to tolerate their bullshit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (HaL55)

104
The other day I scoffed at the idea of folks in Illinois receiving papers to travel to/from work.

Well, my hubby came home with traveling papers, naming him as an essential worker. Unreal!
Posted by: lizabth


He'll be ready when they say "Your papers, please."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (aKsyK)

105 I wake up every morning feeling tired and sickish but I'm fine by late morning.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (Uu+Jp)

106 <1% mortality below 50. 1 fatality in China at 14, none <15 otherwise, worldwide.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (kOpft)

107 Thalomide when you want flipper kids

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (K04g6)

108 OH man...that is the worst....shackled with one of those dumb lanyards. Gov't employees love wearing them, it seems. Free men, not so much.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (L3Rsz)

109 I thought chloroquine was KNOWN to help with SARS virus, and this Coronavirus has been referred to as SARS-2.

The only reason the FDA is dragging their feet on this is because nobody is going to profit from a drug - with a generic form available - that has been on the market forever.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (OuZMr)

110 Thalomide when you want flipper kids

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (K04g6)


I loved that show!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (2N7oZ)

111 Hubby is of German descent and a history buff, so it's kinda weird for him.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (L3Rsz)

112 I don't think Trump is a brilliant epidemiologist but I trust his instinct for getting bureaucracy out of the way.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (gd9RK)

113 Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (Cus5s)

As we all know, there are absolutely NO successful cases of off-label applications of a drug with an expired patent that can cure anything!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (BiNEL)

114 The death rate seems to be >1% and this stuff seems to be effective on it.



I'd call that pretty decent odds. I mean a condom fails at what, 4-6%?
---
So, to hedge, I should take the drug and get laid, right?

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (kOpft)

115 NEWSFLASH!!!
MR WHIPPLE BEEN INDICTED!!!

Posted by: mealy mouth AG at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (/LQkF)

116
5 days with a fever is pretty fucking serious.

This Chinese Virus is NOT the Flu.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (PMDgy)

117 My friendly neighborhood pet store has been listed as an essential service.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

Of course. If people need an emotional support animal for flying, I can only imagine the supply for them now.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (oh+79)

118 Knoxville has gone on shelter in place. Starting at midnight for two weeks. Essential services and stores open only. Kids just fled out for a junk food run.

Posted by: jmel at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (OeWgo)

119 Knock, knock, knock
knocking on hoarder's door,
knock, knock, knock
knocking on hoarder's door.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (puu6v)

120 Fuck travel papers. Sorry, no one should comply

Posted by: rammajamma at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (SwWMX)

121 It really does seem like the MSM/Dems really want this treatment to not work.

Sort of like when the left was cheering on insurgents in Iraq. But they totally support the troops. And they totally hope we beat this pandemic.

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (sjTfF)

122 I don't see Faucci. Fallen out of favorability? Finally?

Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (VNfwt)

123 I wake up every morning feeling tired and sickish but I'm fine by late morning.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (Uu+Jp)

I go through periods of that. It's very sickish when it happens and then I'm fine.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (uEbPt)

124 106
<1% mortality below 50. 1 fatality in China at 14, none <15 otherwise, worldwide.

I wouldn't believe any data coming out of China. Zero new cases? I call bull. Chinese Telecom has seen a drop is users by over 20 million. Yes, some of these were phones for work, but not all.

Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (DF+pC)

125 Maybe it is time to stop this shit show. By that I mean protect our most vulnerable populations by isolating, etc., and reopening the country.
Sorry, just frustration talking. That and the fear of economic destruction.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (90T4r)

126 The fact that this press conference did not lead with comments on the detestable Pelosi et al, truly minimizes her.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (TdMsT)

127 >>She looks like she just got laid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (dLLD6)

Ha!

Posted by: Frasier Crane at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (dmYb7)

128 She looks like she just got laid.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (dLLD6)

So she has "I just got fvcked" hair?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (W2foY)

129 There's a PC game called Papers Please where you are a border agent for some socialist sh*t hole and you have to make decisions on who can pass, all while your family is starving and you can't pay for heat and you are punished for errors in processing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (41rs/)

130 5 days with a fever is pretty fucking serious.

This Chinese Virus is NOT the Flu.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March




do you know what she had

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (HALdu)

131 He'll be ready when they say "Your papers, please."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:33
-----------------------
We had this after the tornado in Joplin. It sucks.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (Dhht7)

132 97
Thank you, Dartist. Stiff gin and tonic, please.

Incoming to your health!

Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (K22Va)

133 Oh please..shut down NYC. Seal it off. Just for a time.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (L3Rsz)

134 NY is always ahead in penetrance

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (zr5Kq)

135 Stay safe, Ace.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (s9Eo8)

136 Oh please..shut down NYC. Seal it off. Just for a time.
Posted by: lizabth at March




even Ace?

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (HALdu)

137 NEWSFLASH!!!
MR WHIPPLE BEEN INDICTED!!!



Enema of the People?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (oVJmc)

138 So, Dr. Karlyn Borysenko, that lady who wrote the article about attending a Trump rally has just posted a video that she's voting for Trump. Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back was the nonsense going on in Congress at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fJcdYFbc0

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (ExV1e)

139 Cheers!

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (L3Rsz)

140 I know little about such things, but I was hearing about this malaria treatment weeks ago as a possibility.

Why has nobody done a study beyond 20 people? I thought there were 100 million people with this, couldn't we have found a few people dying in the hospital parking lots and tried it on them?

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (sjTfF)

141 Trump has historically good instincts. Like 99.99 percentile. The Dems, meanwhile, never stop talking about him like he's Mr. Magoo.

This is one of the reasons he keeps "winning". He will be proven right again.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (uEbPt)

142 Was preoccupied, but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (nRk/c)

143 133
Oh please..shut down NYC. Seal it off. Just for a time.
I loved the movie "Escape for New York".

Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (DF+pC)

144 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (Zz0t1)

145 TOP. PEOPLE. Thalidomide will never strike on their watch again...

Posted by: Kazi at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (0x00j)

146 The onset of this can be very sudden. I may feel fine now but by bedtime I could feel like shit and can't breathe. These are are scary times. I've tried hard to limit my exposure but it only takes ONE time to be next to someone who has it. I've washed my hands til they're raw. My boss refuses to take it seriously. If I get it I pray I only present mild symptoms.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)

147 If you are sitting on a warehouse of masks, you will be hearing a knock on your door."

-

" A coup is okay, though. "

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (41rs/)

148 Even my sister. Doesn't it make sense? We're doing okay here in IL. Don't want the east coast Wuflu numbers here.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (L3Rsz)

149 Go figure. A Federal Bureaucracy fucked things up and delayed possible life saving treatments for Americans.........

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Zz0t1)

150 Take care, all. I'm backing away from this crap for a while. It's been just-over 2-months since the "outbreak" and by the CDC's numbers (for what they're worth), there are roughly 34K confirmed cases of Kung Flu in the US. About 45% of them are in one state (New York).

400 total deaths.

400. Or roughly 200/month. In a country of 321 million people.

Aside from NY and perhaps 1-2 other hot spots, this is simply not a panic/lock-down level event.

But that's precisely where we're headed.

I'm done.

Posted by: DocJ at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (DU2N9)

151 61 FDA always thinking about Thalidomide.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)

Testing a freaking nasal swab ain't gonna give anyone birth freaking defects.

How about a simple protocol change? You test with your new test, except the first hundred and 1% or 10% of your samples need to be verified using someone elses test?

Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (+0uDE)

152 >>>>She looks like she just got laid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

There is a slow the spread joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (2cuLk)

153 143 133
Oh please..shut down NYC. Seal it off. Just for a time.
I loved the movie "Escape for New York".
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (DF+pC

Could a governor block traffic from NYC? I assume not but...?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (Uu+Jp)

154 Fauci wasn't a wartime consigliere.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (KxVoZ)

155 Trump needs to fire the entire fucking government when this shit is over.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Watching Trump Go Nuclear at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (+dsLj)


In other news, Mamma Charmin Bear has been euthanized by Fish & Game Dept for mauling shoppers at a nearby Walmart.

Posted by: Meep Floyd at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (8B6Ng)

156 The fact that this press conference did not lead with comments on the detestable Pelosi et al, truly minimizes her.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (TdMsT)

The people who decide elections don't want to hear political division right now.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (uEbPt)

157 Oh, but before I leave I'll just say the FDA and CDC desperately need the Burn. Scatter. Salt. treatment.

Posted by: DocJ at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (DU2N9)

158 If you are sitting on a warehouse of masks, you will be hearing a knock on your door."

So Barr is advocating seizure of private property?

And this guy is the AG?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (W2foY)

159 Socks meeped me up.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (8B6Ng)

160 128
She looks like she just got laid.

Lol, she's not sick, she needs a cigarette and a drink.

Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (K22Va)

161 400 total deaths

-

Fewer than die in NYC every day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (41rs/)

162
Second look at Bane?
He had the right idea.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (PMDgy)

163 If aspirin was a new drug the FDA would not approve it as an OTC drug.

Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (2cuLk)

164 <1% mortality below 50. 1 fatality in China at 14, none <15 otherwise, worldwide.

I
wouldn't believe any data coming out of China. Zero new cases? I call
bull. Chinese Telecom has seen a drop is users by over 20 million. Yes,
some of these were phones for work, but not all.

---
China wasn't the emphasis there. This was worldwide and China has the only exception to no deaths below 15.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (kOpft)

165 The whole hydroxychloroquinone thing is kind of a red herring. Let's say there's 300 million people at risk and a week's dose of the stuff at 800mg first day + 400mg for another five is $10, that's what, $3 billion?

That's not even the change in a broker's shoe after the past month. And the side effects are rare and almost nonexistent in short-term use.

Just get the damn pills and give the USPS three hundred million ziplocs. Or the Census crew. I can't imagine they're still hiring for door-to-door canvassing...maybe it's a conspiracy.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (8erNz)

166 >>If I get it I pray I only present mild symptoms. Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)

You will get it. We will all get it. We are all doomed, and we're all going to die. This is known.

Carry on.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (QgtlX)

167 So Barr is advocating seizure of private property?

And this guy is the AG?

That's what I wondered.. If you have masks do you have to sell them?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (5bxa0)

168
So she has "I just got fvcked" hair?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (W2foY)


I believe the phrase is "lookin like a fresh fucked chicken."

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Zz0t1)

169 I'd like to see a list of how many elected Democrats have Chloroquine and Azithromicin on hand, or have recently acquired it. Would be interesting.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (uEbPt)

170 Was preoccupied, but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (nRk/c)
~~~~~

Sadly, no.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (sGotD)

171 [Was preoccupied, but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (nRk/c)


Sadly no, and Pence is sounding the alarm for wavering to Pelosi.Schumer in my opinion!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (BiNEL)

172 meh, the thing about the NYC wuhanbola is that it is not spreading most in the densest areas. It is not so much Manhattan as it is Brooklyn.

Which is interesting and kind of undercuts the cw.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (HALdu)

173 Of course. If people need an emotional support animal for flying, I can only imagine the supply for them now.

I still need an emotional-support supermodel of the genuine, born-female and lovin' it variety.

My address is still the same.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (HaL55)

174 24 I never heard of this Daniel Day Lewis Kim actor or whatever his name is before the Chinese virus, am I supposed to give a shit about him now?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (W2foY)


I've never heard of him ether, but he seems positive and upbeat and is touting how quickly he improved with a short course of choloroqiine (or its cousin) and azithromycin.

That's a good thing.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (nvMvs)

175 130
5 days with a fever is pretty fucking serious.



This Chinese Virus is NOT the Flu.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March
I've got a fever, and the prescription is more cowbell.

Posted by: Bruce Dickinson at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (ufFY8)

176 FuckingDumbAsses ?

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (M+Lyo)

177 >Fauci wasn't a wartime consigliere.

Posted by: Guy Smiley


Fauci's a pimp. he coulda never outfought C Everett Koop

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (iTXRQ)

178 400 total deaths

Someone said 0ver 500..Who to believe?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (5bxa0)

179
Why has nobody done a study beyond 20 people? I thought there were 100 million people with this, couldn't we have found a few people dying in the hospital parking lots and tried it on them?
_____________________

Sorry, but you don't have the correct credentials to perform such a study!

Fill out these 857 government forms requesting permission, and we'll get back to you in a month or so!

Posted by: The FDA at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (k4dH2)

180 I don't understand the hold up at all. This is not a new drug. It's been given to military personnel for 30+ years. It's side effects are well known. The only question is whether or not it is effective in this application. Am I missing something?

Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)

181 Go figure. A Federal Bureaucracy fucked things up and delayed possible life saving treatments for Americans.........

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Zz0t1)


Well...

Posted by: Tuskegee Study at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (2N7oZ)

182 I bet Fauci got the hook.

Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (K22Va)

183
In other news, Mamma Charmin Bear has been euthanized by Fish & Game Dept for mauling shoppers at a nearby Walmart.
Posted by: Meep Floyd at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (8B6Ng)


That whole Charmin bear family needs to be made into hearth rugs.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (TdMsT)

184 Aside from NY and perhaps 1-2 other hot spots, this is simply not a panic/lock-down level event.

Padlock NYC and reopen the rest of the country.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (8erNz)

185 And this guy is the AG?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (W2foY)


Trust us, it's all legal!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (BiNEL)

186 I feel like somebody just wrapped my balls in red tape.

Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (ATCV4)

187 I'll see your 400 deaths, and raise to some number between that and a bazillion.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (90T4r)

188 Why does Facebook even have 700,000 N95 masks?

Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (VNfwt)

189 180 I don't understand the hold up at all. This is not a new drug. It's been given to military personnel for 30+ years. It's side effects are well known. The only question is whether or not it is effective in this application. Am I missing something?
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)


Not enough Democrat graft and grift yet.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (EL4ni)

190 I hate Democracy.

Posted by: Corona-kun at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (A+VfD)

191 FB - 700K masks? What the heck?

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (2GPSc)

192
Has it occurred to any of you the reason President Trump is treading softly on the Democrats' obstinance is because Pelosi and Schemer have the president (and the People) by the balls?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (PMDgy)

193 hydroxycholorquine and the rest of the mix, seems to cure even in the late stages. A mild early dose would surely be in order.


Someone here earlier said they knew someone that tested positive, the ER gave them hydroxycholorquine, and said Pelosi (?) was an idiot.


43 deaths today in NY, 132 in USA today alone. 545 total. Can we see how many anecdotally received the hydroxycholorquine treatment mix? Who has gotten it and at what stage ... we have enough outcomes to take a look and get some ideas, without the sluggards at FDA looking down their nose at us.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (Cus5s)

194 If Fauci got the hook, better now than later. It was becoming clear that it was inevitable.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (KxVoZ)

195 Wait is there a holdup on chloroquine?

I have read people are getting it now if they are diagnosed.

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ZfRYq)

196 No mention of the Dems terrible bill?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (5bxa0)

197 Fauci got an ouchy.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (uEbPt)

198 400 total deaths

Someone said 0ver 500..Who to believe?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (5bxa0)

Out of 350 million, is it relevant either way?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (W2foY)

199 "If you are sitting on a warehouse of masks, you will be hearing a knock on your door."

-- Barr

Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (M5wRT)


As I said up-thread, husband discovered four N95 masks in his warehouse today, and he's donating them to his doc's medical practice.

The little devil on my shoulder said, "But....what about us?" And the angel kicked its ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ptqGC)

200 Or the Census crew. I can't imagine they're still hiring for door-to-door canvassing...maybe it's a conspiracy.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (8erNz)
~~~~~

They were supposed to start canvassing in April, but we haven't even done the backgound checks on 25% of the selectees. We're shut down too.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (sGotD)

201 152
>>>>She looks like she just got laid.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



There is a slow the spread joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (2cuLk)

That's not all that's in there.

Posted by: The Paolo at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ufFY8)

202 That's what I wondered.. If you have masks do you have to sell them?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (5bxa0)

So, if we're smarter than the f*cking government, we're supposed to relinquish our stuff to the same people that couldn't figure out after over a decade maybe some more masks were a good idea?

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (8B6Ng)

203 We need to calm things down quick.

Yesterday morning at my suburban Wal-Mart they had to call the police when someone pulled a gun out because we didnt open promptly at 7am.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (K04g6)

204 68 There's no excuse for the FDA's ineptitude. Just ridiculous that they screwed around with bureaucratic bullshit for six weeks when this thing was coming at us like a freight train.

Heads should roll

====
Use them as controls in a rabies study.
Waste not, want not.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler, whittling away like mad at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (d6mdH)

205 >>Fauci's a pimp. he coulda never outfought C Everett Koop Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (iTXRQ)

Fauci probably carries a blade. Koop was the oatmeal guy.
My money's on the wop.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (QgtlX)

206 I bet Fauci got the hook.

Maybe he tested positive for the Chinese Crud.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (pPNCa)

207 The Korean drug that defeats the flu virus is utterly unacceptable. As demorats have many times proudly explained, a CRISIS is an opportunity to do things you normally couldn't get away with.
Pelosi/Soros demorats have already made it clear, they are NOT going to waste this opportunity to attack America/Americans/Trump, utilizing this CRISIS.

Posted by: ron n. at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (om5HK)

208 That'd be good if Fauci is gone.

From 'this is a terrible thing that's gonna get worse' to 'most people will have no symptoms or mild ones'.


That was quite the see-saw ride over the past two weeks.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (L3Rsz)

209 Has it occurred to any of you the reason President Trump is treading softly on the Democrats' obstinance is because Pelosi and Schemer have the president (and the People) by the balls?
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (PMDgy)

Nah. They will begin taking heat and their tune will change.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (uEbPt)

210 Calm down critters. It was announced a couple of days ago that Fauci is going to get a couple of days of me time. He'll be back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (gd9RK)

211 FDA: Operating rooms ventilators different than other ventilators.


This sounds like the CO2 scrubber incompatibly issue with Apollo 13

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (gmo/4)

212 I'd like to see a list of how many elected Democrats have Chloroquine
and Azithromicin on hand, or have recently acquired it. Would be
interesting.

---
And their recent stock purchases.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (kOpft)

213 >>>No mention of the Dems terrible bill?

Not directly. Partisanship and political games decried by Trump.

Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (l3+k2)

214 180 I don't understand the hold up at all. This is not a new drug. It's been given to military personnel for 30+ years. It's side effects are well known. The only question is whether or not it is effective in this application. Am I missing something?
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)

------

Your phoney balony job isn't dependent that regulations and protocols are properly followed.

Posted by: MAGA at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (Bhh6t)

215 RE: Testing.

I believe now, at this point, we have tested more people than South Korea. ~270k tests just last week.

I'm not entirely sure how much better off we'd be at this point with testing... *maybe* if every traveler coming home from Europe had been administered the test... but that seems a tall order with the amount of travelers arriving back every day.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (zqs/f)

216 Why has nobody done a study beyond 20 people? I thought there were 100 million people with this, couldn't we have found a few people dying in the hospital parking lots and tried it on them?

The chloroquinones?

There have been three on the current mess, Korea, China, and France. The Chinese study used higher doses, the French study used hydroxychloroquinone (fewer side effects) and an ER/chicken antibiotic and got STUNNINGLY GOOD results if they can be replicated on larger scale.

The main thing is that these drugs have almost no adverse side effects, the worst thing is vision problems that resolve once you're off the drug. And they're all, including the chicken antibiotic, cheap.

There's some consideration that the virus will mutate itself around the immediate cure, and that's true, but at this point a year probably gets us to a virus.

I'm optimistic.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (8erNz)

217 188 Why does Facebook even have 700,000 N95 masks?
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (VNfwt)

In case of California fires.

Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (M5wRT)

218 What about the eye damage? Is that a thing with this drug?

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (sjTfF)

219 203 We need to calm things down quick.

Yesterday morning at my suburban Wal-Mart they had to call the police when someone pulled a gun out because we didnt open promptly at 7am.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (K04g6)

Yep. This has been dangerously ramped up. The hysterics out there don't need much of a nudge in any circumstances.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (90T4r)

220 Oh Zod, I can always count on you to lift my spirits!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (dUJdY)

221 Wait is there a holdup on chloroquine?

Its approved for emergency or use for patients who are critically ill and approve it. as I understand it. The FDA is holding back use of it for patients who are not in as dire a situation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (KZzsI)

222 146 The onset of this can be very sudden. I may feel fine now but by bedtime I could feel like shit and can't breathe. These are are scary times. I've tried hard to limit my exposure but it only takes ONE time to be next to someone who has it. I've washed my hands til they're raw. My boss refuses to take it seriously. If I get it I pray I only present mild symptoms.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)

Are you trolling us? This thing is relatively mild considering its ability to spread, and one of the oldest, cheapest meds we have can be used to mitigate it.

Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)

223 Hannity had this guy, Dr. Zelenko, on his radio program earlier today -- claims to have successfully treated 350 people with the proposed cocktail for the Wuhan coronavirus:


ttps://tinyurl.com/udgucg9

Posted by: ShainS at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (sC74M)

224 probably gets us to a virus.

A vaccine.

I'm not only optimistic, I'm careless.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (8erNz)

225 220 Oh Zod, I can always count on you to lift my spirits!!
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (dUJdY)

LOL... Me too

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (5bxa0)

226 Plaquenil. It'll take your eye out.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (lwiT4)

227 God I hope I don't get this. I'm scared to death. Yeah.. okay tell me what a pansie I am. I dare you.


Please don't be afraid. If you have certain pre-existing conditions or are of a certain age, you should be careful. But please do not let fear engulf you. This is not cancer. It is NOT an immediate death sentence.

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

228 Pence said they were still working on a bill. I bet the presstitutes will be quite combative over the issue.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (L3Rsz)

229 Huh. Washington just lost its second place position in number of cases to New Jersey.

Washington was the first breakout, and its new cases aren't increasing exponentially now, though there is noise. Maybe its ready to peak and slow soon, fingers crossed.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (Bwqq4)

230 Pence is actually looking good in his part during this mess.

I'm going to log this in the memory bank, for 2024.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (EL4ni)

231 Jewells,

An oximeter (which measures your O2 levels) is about $25. It's easy to use and will give you peace of mind.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (Lqy/e)

232 The 'Federal' part of FDA should have been your first clue, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (G2z01)

233 Saw my doc for the first time in many months today. He is an older fellow as well. The man is uniquely brilliant, but what really stood out to me is for the first time is just how pessimistic he is about everything.

I think with folks like him, who are used to controlling everything, our current circumstances make him short-circuit.

Posted by: Test for Echo at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (onMzM)

234 I, too, appreciate Zod. Always makes me laugh, in a good way.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (L3Rsz)

235 US has done in 6-7 days what would take others years.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (zr5Kq)

236 No matter what Dae Kim does he'll still end up back on the island levering the donkey wheel or being chased by the smoke monster.

Posted by: 13times at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (K3B2k)

237 68 There's no excuse for the FDA's ineptitude. Just ridiculous that they screwed around with bureaucratic bullshit for six weeks


D.E.E.P-S.T.A.T.E.
C.O.M.M.I.E.
C.O.L.L.A.B.O.R.A.T.O.R.S.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (oUnSf)

238 The hysterics out there don't need much of a nudge in any circumstances.

*nodding and winking*
--Christine Pelosi

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (KZzsI)

239 210 Calm down critters. It was announced a couple of days ago that Fauci is going to get a couple of days of me time.

Damn.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (KxVoZ)

240 There's some consideration that the virus will mutate itself around the immediate cure, and that's true, but at this point a year probably gets us to a virus.
I'm optimistic.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (8erNz)

Vaccine

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (uEbPt)

241 My money's on the wop.


Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (QgtlX)

As Ladyl says, I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (W2foY)

242 The "rules" in place to restrict the use of medical equipment was passed by whom?

Democrats, perhaps?

Yea, they own the "Pelosi Pandemic."

Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (3H9h1)

243 What about the eye damage? Is that a thing with this drug?

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (sjTfF)



Long term and at high dosage.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (lwiT4)

244 The little devil on my shoulder said, "But....what about us?" And the angel kicked its ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ptqGC)


If I find my N95's (just moved), I'll happily donate them. But I'm keeping my one N100, and used it today. If (heaven forbid) something happens to my mother, I'm the only person that can help her. Me being sick would not be a good thing. Except in the DNC's America.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (8B6Ng)

245 I'm not entirely sure how much better off we'd be at this point with testing... *maybe* if every traveler coming home from Europe had been administered the test... but that seems a tall order with the amount of travelers arriving back every day.
Posted by: Serious Cat

______________

I agree

I think it's being obsessed over as something to blame Trump because they didn't have enough.

if you have the symptoms of corona, quarantine yourself. Even if you don't have it, I thought everyone was in quarantine.

The idea that lack of tests is causing this spread just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. At least not a mass scale.

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (sjTfF)

246 "Someone said 0ver 500..Who to believe?"

I just peeked. 545 total deaths USA as of now at Worldometer Coronavirus site.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (Bwqq4)

247 My friendly neighborhood pet store has been listed as an essential service.



Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

I was at Boston Fire hazmat facility when new essential list came in.Didn't even look at it. Just hightailed my ass to Petco.

Posted by: Pelosi's Used Kleenex at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (a1s18)

248 "The only question is whether or not it is effective in this application. Am I missing something?"

it would be a huge win for Trump if it worked, and Dems/MSM already smeared him for suggesting a Untested Drug might work. So imo, yes they are indeed that Vile, to want to thwart success that might show Trump was right again. To them it is warfare, and every Trump win is a loss for them ... even if people die in the process of stopping Trump.

But I'd sure like to see outcomes and details, since they must have a lot of anecdotal. Any drug result will be anecdotal ... there is no age old protocol for a brand new novel virus. So decision must be made without the Ancients at FDA stroking chins and conjuring up spirits.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (Cus5s)

249
...but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?



Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM

not yet, he'll wait until progda asks a related question, then he'll be "well, since you brought it up..."

Posted by: AltonJackson
If you are finished, unload & show clear
at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (DUIap)

250 Pence is actually looking good in his part during this mess.

I'm going to log this in the memory bank, for 2024.


Agreed.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (pPNCa)

251 I think that doctors have been prescribing these drugs. MDs did not need permission. That's the main reason the death rate is small.

Posted by: azalea city at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (WX+x0)

252 Family Guy, You have aids

https://youtu.be/raniSkRLa14

I don't normally like the show, but...

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (LxTcq)

253 Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)

Fuck off.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dUJdY)

254 Plaquenil. It'll take your eye out.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (lwiT4)
--------------

Listen to the Church Pirate, for she probably knows of which she speaks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (WEBkv)

255 It's side effects are well known. The only question is whether or not it
is effective in this application. Am I missing something?


Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)

Keep that logic shit off this blog.

Yes...there are probably theoretical issues that are possible but highly unlikely. And because this overreaction is now jeopardizing the largest economy in the world it might behoove them to be just a bit smarter about it.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dLLD6)

256 Here we go with the reporters. Gonna be REAL BAD, seriously you guys.

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (COzlW)

257 Does AG Barr look a little like the frog/gator king that wanted to execute JarJar?

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (gmo/4)

258 I really dislike this little lisping reporter dude.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (L3Rsz)

259 Huh. Washington just lost its second place position in number of cases to New Jersey.

Washington was the first breakout, and its new cases aren't increasing exponentially now, though there is noise. Maybe its ready to peak and slow soon, fingers crossed.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (Bwqq4)

Inslee must be pissed.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (W2foY)

260 The only question is whether or not it is effective in this application. Am I missing something?

Its not impossible that it interacts oddly with this particular virus in some people, that's what they are worried about. There hasn't been enough testing yet to see that kind of thing. There's been some done that demonstrates effectiveness, but not a large, wide-spread clinical test.

The problem is that we don't have time to do that kind of testing and sooner or later you gotta work the odds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (KZzsI)

261


Mike Pence:

I can't go with you either, Fauci.









Fauci :


[to Pence]

Tell the president it was only business. I always liked him.









Pence :

He understands that.






Barr:


[removing Fauci's microphone]

Excuse me, Fauci.









Fauci :

Can you get me off the hook, Mike? For old times' sake?









Pence :


[shakes his head]

Can't do it, Fauci.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dmy3W)

262
Are you trolling us? This thing is relatively mild considering its ability to spread, and one of the oldest, cheapest meds we have can be used to mitigate it.

Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve



Are you a fucking expert? Where's your evidence that it is mild?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (PMDgy)

263 212 I'd like to see a list of how many elected Democrats have Chloroquine and Azithromicin on hand, or have recently acquired it. Would be interesting.

---
And their recent stock purchases.


Then they get a little treatment and become gutterquine...

Oh wait, that's eliminationist rhetoric.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (8erNz)

264 But, if Dems in Congress aren't taking this seriously, as was on full display today, and Dr. Fauci can afford to take several days of "me" time off...that tells me something, n'est ce pas?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (KxVoZ)

265 246 "Someone said 0ver 500..Who to believe?"

I just peeked. 545 total deaths USA as of now at Worldometer Coronavirus site.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (Bwqq4)

The fact that that meter even exists says so much about the world we live in. Discouraging.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (90T4r)

266 Sub-Saharan Africa seems largely untouched by this pandemic.

When it *does* get there, that "sick map" is gonna light up like a pachinko machine.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (QgtlX)

267 >>Pence is actually looking good in his part during this mess.


Always a good idea to have a wingman with a good, harsh Squint.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (G2z01)

268 166 >>If I get it I pray I only present mild symptoms. Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)

You will get it. We will all get it. We are all doomed, and we're all going to die. This is known.

Carry on.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (QgtlX)

Praise Zod.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (w+Ped)

269 The onset of this can be very sudden. I may feel fine now but by bedtime I could feel like shit and can't breathe. These are are scary times. I've tried hard to limit my exposure but it only takes ONE time to be next to someone who has it. I've washed my hands til they're raw. My boss refuses to take it seriously. If I get it I pray I only present mild symptoms.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)
--------------------

May I suggest a Gin and Tonic, or a Vodka Tonic, heavy on the tonic water to chase down a supplement of Zinc, Vitamins B C and D?

Be a fashion trendsetter, and start wearing a scarf or a bandanna wrapped over your nose and mouth. Take a couple to work, and put the used ones in a separate plastic bag for laundering in hot water every day.

Relax, and make sure you take care of your hands too. If you wear latex or nitrile gloves, you can wash the gloves instead. I do that when cooking when I am chopping raw vegetables and working with meats. I wash the gloves multiple times as I switch between the veggies and meat.

Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (+0uDE)

270 Fuck off.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March




In fairness, you did dare somebody to do what he did.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (HALdu)

271 I wish Gov Charlie Parker would just read the damn music. All this riffing around and shit doesn't get anybody out of the hospital.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (sWM8x)

272
D.E.E.P-S.T.A.T.E.

C.O.M.M.I.E.

C.O.L.L.A.B.O.R.A.T.O.R.S.



Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (oUnSf)


Hope and pray in 2021 there's a major re-thinking by POTUS of all the alphabet agencies. They're useless/evil behemoths sucking the life blood out of the country.Trump could grab people off the street at random and come up with a better solution.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (8B6Ng)

273 Who is in charge of FDA again?

Posted by: Wait what? at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (LSEG1)

274 Listen to the Church Pirate, for she probably knows of which she speaks.


Oh, I haven't asked about that in a while. Are you still a pirate, grammie? How are the orbs?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (gd9RK)

275 Calm down critters. It was announced a couple of
days ago that Fauci is going to get a couple of days of me time. He'll
be back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (gd9RK)

---

Um, what are *you* doing with him?

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (kOpft)

276 Fauci said that it is mild. For most folks! Other people have said that as well. If you get it bad, there is help and it's not necessarily death.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (L3Rsz)

277 I saw Penitential Penetrance open for Long Island Shortboys back in the noughties.

Posted by: Anachronda at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (kf5Ci)

278 they're trying to get Trump to name a date certain when America will re-open

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (iTXRQ)

279
Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)


NOBODY responds to Jewells this way.

Get lost.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (TdMsT)

280 Are you trolling us? This thing is relatively mild considering its ability to spread, and one of the oldest, cheapest meds we have can be used to mitigate it.

Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)


What the FCUK is wrong with you? Arrogant asshole.

Posted by: Kazi at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (0x00j)

281 Chloroquine is already being used because it is up to the Dr. to use a drug off label.

It is being rationed because hospitals are worried about supply

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (LWu6U)

282 Yesterday morning at my suburban Wal-Mart they had to call the police
when someone pulled a gun out because we didnt open promptly at 7am.

Won't go near any of these places. Wal-Mart is beating Amazon around here for TP delivery. All Amazon has is Chinese crap. Not the time to be wiping your butt with Chinese TP.

Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (K22Va)

283 A Federal Judge in Hawaii will place an Injunction of ALL use of Chlorinique until the FWP can test its affects of Anadromous Fish and Sea mammals.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (G2z01)

284 Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (HALdu)

You too.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (dUJdY)

285 Listen to the Church Pirate, for she probably knows of which she speaks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (WEBkv)



I was on it years and years for Lupus and with careful monitoring I had only very slight changes to my vision.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (lwiT4)

286 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dmy3W)

Dancing on the barrel's lid, are we?

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (8B6Ng)

287 Are you a fucking expert? Where's your evidence that it is mild?
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (PMDgy)

I am a fucking expert. Where is your evidence this level of panic is justified?

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (w+Ped)

288 >>Praise Zod. Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (w+Ped)

Kill yourself. Do it now.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (QgtlX)

289 I'm always VERY nice to Jewells.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (90T4r)

290 Good advice, rd.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (L3Rsz)

291 DNC Meme of the Day: "Trump is prioritizing his economy over human lives."

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (uEbPt)

292 wow!

it's almost as if government is inefficient in the face of a crisis.

and Dr. Fucktard is a two faced bastard: H1N1 was no big deal, but Chinese Lung Aids? "OMFG, we're all gonna die! shut down everything, everywhere, forever!"

F him, with a tanker's bar, sideways, then shove coils of concertina wire in, to stop the bleeding.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (vwf8z)

293 not to be too skeptical

but when it comes to actors and such

Smollett is not alone in lying to up one's profile

Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (rpxSz)

294 You too.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March




didn't you go off for a cruise after wuhanwhatever started here?

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (HALdu)

295 Well, this escalated quickly.

Guess I'll come back after the battle.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (KxVoZ)

296 {{Ladyl}}.. thanks.. been a tough day and stuff happening I won't go into now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (dUJdY)

297 So how many deep staters are working at the FDA?

Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (0jZvB)

298 Zod is not a fucking expert, but he strives for expertise, and he is married to a patient woman.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (QgtlX)

299 Dear government,

Pay your rate for the masks that smart people accumulated for you.

I would not be surprised that what you pay for each one in normal circumstances is above what you consider gouging today.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (41rs/)

300 The FDA wing of the Dem Party did their part to destroy the economy and Trump.

If Trump is defeated in November look for medals and lots of blow for the FDA traitors....who will be partying with Strok , McCabe and many other fellow traitor travelers.

Posted by: Voter theater. at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (xXx5y)

301 Part of the reaction to Chloraquine is that its not anything anyone can get rich off of. Its cheap as hell, not under any patent, super abundant, easy to produce, and very old and established.

But there's no need to ration the stuff, floods of that stuff are being donated, gigantic dumptrucks full.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (KZzsI)

302 No engaing with you not so. You are a shit stirrer.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

303 I was on it years and years for Lupus and with careful monitoring I had only very slight changes to my vision.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (lwiT4)
---------------

Ah, I thought perhaps it was a drug you took during your bout of Bell's Palsey, was it?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (WEBkv)

304 Barr is warning against price gouging and hoarding.

Screw Barr. All talk, no action.

Posted by: Grannymimi at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (u5LFV)

305 Well, we can get a focused Bill if we instituted the ancient punishment for failure.

Decimation.

No Bill in 3 days? Round up everyone and draw straws. Every tenth straw is short. EVERYBODY draws a straw. Short straw? Dead. A bonus would be forcing long straw Congresscritters to carry out the sentences.

The same should be done to the CDC and FDA leaders.

Want action in a bureaucracy? Threaten death.

Uh, no. I am not heartless. But if this is a crisis, obstructionist behavior deserves the ancient remedy.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (e1mEI)

306
Fuck off.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March



In fairness, you did dare somebody to do what he did.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (HALdu)


In fairness, yankee fifth, you're a shit-stirrer. Knock it off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (ptqGC)

307 https://tinyurl.com/sy3zoos

Common sense approach from an MD.
A letter to DJT. Hope he takes the advice.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (DB16e)

308 Still no symptoms here. But I live "in the middle of nowhere."
How is everyone?

Posted by: JAS at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (2BZBZ)

309 Fauci's wiry.

It's the wiry ones that will surprise you.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (Lg/Uq)

310 The FDA is holding back use of it for patients who are not in as dire a situation.

It's been used for years.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (oVJmc)

311
Was preoccupied, but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
~~~~~
Sadly, no.
Posted by: IrishEi


There'll be time enough for blastin' when the dealin's done.

Posted by: The Gambler at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (aKsyK)

312 "Where's your evidence that it is mild?"

-Sooth

There seems to be general agreement among the medfags that 80% of cases are mild and never progress beyond mild. Many people have already had it and never knew.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (Bwqq4)

313 Jewells45

I'm scared...Husband tells me to chill because if I sneeze I say . I have it... LOL... I'm not the chilling kind

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (5bxa0)

314 @ 301. Right on...exactly.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (L3Rsz)

315 302 No engaing with you not so. You are a shit stirrer.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

Yo Jewells! You obviously don't need any White Knighting!!!

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (90T4r)

316 Jewells we luv ya

everyone is entitled to their concerns

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (iTXRQ)

317 No engaing with you not so. You are a shit stirrer.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March



Hey, I am just here for the fun, not to hawk junk.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)

318 Testing is way way overrated. These tests have sensitivities of less than 70%. at best.

That means if the test is Neg., there is a 30% chance that you are infected.

It has a purpose, but it is not a cure. These countries that are having success are doing a lot of testing but not to find all the sick people, but instead to reduce the number of asymptomatic carriers out there in the wild and to know how extreme the lockdowns need to be.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (LWu6U)

319 Abolish the FDA.

Quackery at it's best.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (Z+IKu)

320 Why is everyone getting on Jewells' ass lately? FFS

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (uEbPt)

321 A member of our church is on a ventilator with the corona virus. He is around 70 I would say and has no underlying conditions that I know of. He is in Arizona and no danger to our church as he left three weeks ago.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (lwiT4)

322
Sub-Saharan Africa seems largely untouched by this pandemic.

When it *does* get there, that "sick map" is gonna light up like a pachinko machine.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM

---------

How will they know that anything is abnormal?

Seriously, a mild fever is fairly common there. Doesn't it take a couple of weeks for an Ebola outbreak to be discovered? Even though Ebola causes your body to bleed from every orifice?

Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (+0uDE)

323 I predict that with the exceptions of places like NYC and Seattle, USA with be open for business on April 1.

Posted by: JAS at March 23, 2020 06:56 PM (2BZBZ)

324 Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

((((Jewells45))))

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:56 PM (Bwqq4)

325 And that is what I was saying above.

Social distancing is the tool, testing is only the way to monitor it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:56 PM (LWu6U)

326 In fairness, yankee fifth, you're a shit-stirrer. Knock it off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March



In fairness, if somebody does not want something commented upon do not dare somebody to do so.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (HALdu)

327 {{Ladyl}}.. thanks.. been a tough day and stuff happening I won't go into now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (dUJdY)


Hugs, hon. Things are extremely stressed right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (ptqGC)

328 Fauci's wiry.


He is, but he's a short little shit. Alexthechick probably has the reach advantage on him.

Though not with her arms.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (gd9RK)

329 It's been used for years.

Sure, but not with this stuff. Medicines interact chemically, and there's not enough data on how exactly it interacts with this virus. It appears to be very beneficial but are there nasty side effects we haven't seen yet? That's their fear. I think its pretty groundless -- or if not groundless, than excessive, given the circumstances -- but that's what they base their restraint upon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (KZzsI)

330 But there's no need to ration the stuff, floods of that stuff are being donated, gigantic dumptrucks full.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

_____________________

I thought the same about toilet paper.

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (sjTfF)

331 288 >>Praise Zod. Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (w+Ped)

Kill yourself. Do it now.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (QgtlX)

Already dead. Anything else?

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (w+Ped)

332 Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (w+Ped)

Kill yourself. Do it now.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (QgtlX)


Should I be upset that for once I completely agree with Zod?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (BiNEL)

333 I think second week in April, for Illinois. But soon, for sure.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (L3Rsz)

334 don't lick doorhandles

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (zr5Kq)

335 >>309
Fauci's wiry.
It's the wiry ones that will surprise you. Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (Lg/Uq)

@RealDonaldTrump:
"Good progress with chloro meds! Lots of hard work by FDA, CDC, and local authorities. Don't listen to this sneaky little goombah fuck standing behind me. Economy is going to rocket! Stay Safe!"

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (QgtlX)

336 Trump is not even putting up with the Progda gotcha questions, he is now just turning it over to the underlings and specialists.

Good.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (EL4ni)

337 Why don't they point out Rand Paul is missing part of a lung and therefore yeah, he's eligible to be tested.

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (COzlW)

338 Oh shit son - we're figuring this out - Birx cut in front to give the answer on Paul - here we go

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (/ZYFC)

339 Hey, I am just here for the fun, not to hawk junk.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)


You can fuck right the fuck off, asshole.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (HaL55)

340 Top. Men.

Tar. Heads. Pikes. Some assembly required.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (VcFUs)

341 Brix slaps the hysterical boy-child reporter down. Good for her.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (L3Rsz)

342
Christ Almighty, it's not just how "mild" it is or just a relatively few will die from it. It's also the highly contagious aspect, and its "hearty" characteristics.

My evidence? Look at the data. That's my evidence.
The Chinese Virus is doing exactly what they said it was going to do, get much worse before it gets better.

Deny reality all you want, this virus is spreading rapidly, hence the "containment" precautions.

Is this response justified? Goddam right it is.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (PMDgy)

343 307 https://tinyurl.com/sy3zoos

Common sense approach from an MD.
A letter to DJT. Hope he takes the advice.
_________________

The guy is a scientist, not sure about he MD. I got the link from a cousin.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (DB16e)

344 321 A member of our church is on a ventilator with the corona virus. He is around 70 I would say and has no underlying conditions that I know of. He is in Arizona and no danger to our church as he left three weeks ago.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (lwiT4)


grammie, underlying conditions are often, well, underlying. Don't yell at me, okay?

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (90T4r)

345 {{{Je4wells}}} Prayers up!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (BiNEL)

346 You can fuck right the fuck off, asshole.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March









try harder

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (HALdu)

347 >>Should I be upset that for once I completely agree with Zod? Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (BiNEL)

You should be chastened that you don't agree more often. In fact, every time.
Kneel.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (QgtlX)

348 Why is everyone getting on Jewells' ass lately? FFS
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (uEbPt)


Pandemics bring out the best in people.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (Zz0t1)

349 I'm always VERY nice to Jewells.
Posted by: tubal

Jewells won the Super Bowl for Mrs Blutarski. So there.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (VNfwt)

350 Trump's a hoot.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (oUnSf)

351 well the county school district I work for is out of action through 4/17

be interesting to see what happens then




also this one reporter wants to pin Rand's illness on Trump

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (iTXRQ)

352 Hey, I am just here for the fun, not to hawk junk.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)


You're a barrel of laughs.

Posted by: Kazi at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (0x00j)

353 Ah, I thought perhaps it was a drug you took during your bout of Bell's Palsey, was it?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (WEBkv)


No, not for that - for Lupus. IIRC I took it for about ten years, and lived to tell the tale.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (lwiT4)

354 Don't forget healthy, delicious, and satisfying servings of Thorvald's Cream of Lutefisk Soup!

Posted by: Thorvald at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (DMUuz)

355 Testing is way way overrated. These tests have sensitivities of less than 70%. at best.

I don't know if its the test or the virus, but they keep getting really weird results like positive, then tested again negative, then later positive again.

But the reason for the push on testing is to ramp up numbers, to frighten people and drive policy. More positives = more panic, even if the death numbers don't go up or are even going down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (KZzsI)

356 and MASKS

We need masks because they stop asymptomatic people from spreading the disease even if they don't know they are sick.

That is what is working in Japan, which has not had a shutdown.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (LWu6U)

357 Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have legitimate medical uses, and our supply is not set up for mass use. Before we go crazy and start prescribing it to everyone with cold symptoms, thereby depleting our supply and possibly denying it to those who need it for other medical uses, we have to establish that it has benefit.

In the severe cases, it is being used. One data set that will be seen soon is, are those who take the drugs for their other conditions protected from corona? Do they have less severe disease, or no disease at all?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (dNzKv)

358 Brown suit won't let it go.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (oUnSf)

359 LOL @ the doctor lady saying she had a low-grade fever Saturday & Trump taking several steps back in response.

Posted by: ptschett at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (zB+vL)

360 also this one reporter wants to pin Rand's illness on Trump

Seriously?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (5bxa0)

361
You can fuck right the fuck off, asshole.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy



Seconded.

I'm in no mood argumentative Dildos, here.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (PMDgy)

362 Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)

Where is the POS flag when you need it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (BiNEL)

363 {{Meremortal}!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

364 Can't we all just get athong?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (sWM8x)

365 don't lick doorhandles
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (zr5Kq)


But toilet seats, on the other hand....

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Zz0t1)

366 Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)


If you're stressing, reach out. Seriously.


My 29 odometer has rolled over twice now, and this is all new and different.


There's a hotline to call, 1-800-985-5990
or
You can text TALKWITHUS at 66746

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (8B6Ng)

367 Good answer from Trump. Life is dangerous. But we still need to live, yes?

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (L3Rsz)

368 I bought this oximeter for $11.68, including shipping, just a few weeks ago, on Ebay. I see they want more now, but have a "Make an Offer" option. So their cost must be much lower ... it works fine, screen even flips to any orientation ... nice display of heart beat too.


https://tinyurl.com/vlgv95d

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Cus5s)

369 Fauci is what Gunny Hartmann would've referred to as a "scroungy little fuck."

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (QgtlX)

370 "Sub-Saharan Africa seems largely untouched by this pandemic"

Cases are concentrated around the planet along a band from 30-50 degree latitude and a humidity level of 44-77%.

There is much discussion about why that may be.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Bwqq4)

371 grammie, underlying conditions are often, well, underlying. Don't yell at me, okay?

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (90T4r)



I would never yell at you, tubal. But the guy does seem very vigorous and extremely active. Or did, till he caught the crud. I hope he'll come out of it okay.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (lwiT4)

372 also this one reporter wants to pin Rand's illness on Trump
Seriously?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (5bxa0)


No what they're trying to do is say there's not enough tests and it's Trump's fault.

Everything has something behind it. They can't just ask a question.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (uEbPt)

373 Ya know, there are times when I wish it was me who the Lord took two years ago and Faye was left behind to deal with this nonsense.
I guess I'm supposed to be the brave one. Blech.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Uu+Jp)

374
Dr Brix was sick?

Who was it last week who said she looked sickly?

Oh, that's right, me.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (PMDgy)

375 The doctor has said that she and her husband share their house with their daughter and two and nine y.o. grandchildren, as well as her 90-something y.o. parents.

She's an amazing woman.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (ptqGC)

376 also this one reporter wants to pin Rand's illness on Trump

Seriously?? Jesus H.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dUJdY)

377 But the reason for the push on testing is to ramp up numbers, to frighten people and drive policy.
Posted by: Christopher


Yes.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (LWu6U)

378 No, not for that - for Lupus. IIRC I took it for about ten years, and lived to tell the tale.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (lwiT4)
--------------

Gotcha.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (WEBkv)

379 370 "Sub-Saharan Africa seems largely untouched by this pandemic"

Cases are concentrated around the planet along a band from 30-50 degree latitude and a humidity level of 44-77%.

There is much discussion about why that may be.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Bwqq4)

They also take Malaria drugs

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dKiJG)

380 Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (HaL55)
Stop now.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dLLD6)

381 320 Why is everyone getting on Jewells' ass lately? FFS
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (uEbPt)

She literally asked for it.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (w+Ped)

382 You asked for no miracles, I give you the F-D-A.

Posted by: Hans Gruber in 2020 at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (nu45M)

383 376 also this one reporter wants to pin Rand's illness on Trump

Seriously?? Jesus H.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dUJdY)

no

Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (M5wRT)

384
Christ Almighty, it's not just how "mild" it is or just a relatively few will die from it. It's also the highly contagious aspect, and its "hearty" characteristics.

My evidence? Look at the data. That's my evidence.
The Chinese Virus is doing exactly what they said it was going to do, get much worse before it gets better.

Deny reality all you want, this virus is spreading rapidly, hence the "containment" precautions.

Is this response justified? Goddam right it is.
Posted by: Soothsayer

==========

If it barely kills, what does it matter that it's highly contagious? Unless "hearty" characteristics means permanent damage of some sort.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (G51Gf)

385 We are morphing into A Smart Military Blog.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (C1SGV)

386 I have a trunk load of N-93 masks. Cheap. Never heard of them? Trust me, top of the line.

Posted by: Honest sam the Mask Man at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (90T4r)

387 People! Can't we just get along?

Posted by: Zombie Rodney King, crackhead floating facedownin da pool at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (Z+IKu)

388 Btw if my late wife was around and I was gone, she wouldn't be lurking around here.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

389 clutch cargo. .. just been a rough few days..as I said don't want to go into now. I'm okay. yeah scared but just threw a prayer up to my Father..he will keep me safe.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (dUJdY)

390 Chloroquine is already being used because it is up to the Dr. to use a drug off label.



It is being rationed because hospitals are worried about supply

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (LWu6U)

---
yup: up to each MD to write or not write for it. the FDA just made it a little less scary for candy ass doctors who worry about pointless shit.

and

anti-microbial stewardship is a thing: you don't give everyone who *might* have a disease all the drugs you have available to treat it, just the ones who need it most.

that way you don't grow resistant pathogens and you don't waste resources.

if your symptoms are mild, you're likely NOT going to get the cocktail. if you start to get rocky, that's another story.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (vwf8z)

391 Reporter doing the One Percenter bullshit, "Rand Paul had no symptoms but got a test, you say no symptoms no test!!"

Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)

392
don't lick doorhandles
Posted by: runner


Triple dog dare!

Posted by: Ralphie at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (aKsyK)

393 I am hoping by the end of this week we will have more 'anecdotal' data on the effectiveness of the mlaaria drug

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (a0IVu)

394 Hopefully Summer will burn this off.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (90T4r)

395 Alec Stap needs to get a grip. South Korea is about the size of the state of Indiana.

Posted by: Orson at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (q7a4P)

396 "377 But the reason for the push on testing is to ramp up numbers, to frighten people and drive policy.
Posted by: Christopher


Yes.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (LWu6U) "



This.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (zlgJP)

397 Big Government fails. What a shocker.

When you're hiring via hard line rules containing rainbows and unicorn people, this is what you're going to get.

Diversity over merit is NOT a stronger America.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (vEIlU)

398 open letter from Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD., to the President of the United States to restore the immune and economic health in short order for the American people.
https://tinyurl.com/vfll6jd

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (DB16e)

399 Seems we're moving into that phase of the process where people feel entitled to be dicks. Just like election season.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (oVJmc)

400 Sounds like Trump is going to do the sensible thing and 'lock-down' the elderly and ill.

Lock-down in the sense of encouraging them to stay home, support them, etc.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (L3Rsz)

401 Stop now.


OK, but he started it and always does.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (HaL55)

402 In fairness, yankee fifth, you're a shit-stirrer. Knock it off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:54

Yankee fifth is not so. Huh.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (Dhht7)

403 My favorite part: The press beclowning itself, for all the world to see.

Idiots.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (WEBkv)

404
Stress will do some weird shit to your health.

Take 10 breaths and relax.
.
.
.
.
.
There.

Now go get me a beer.

Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (POXG+)

405 @379 If you have sickle-cell anemia, you don't get malaria.
I wonder what else that sickle-cell offers an "immunity" for?
ISTR that a good dose of malaria will stop a cancer's growth, too.
There ought to be some research literature on these interactions.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (8IOEj)

406 A nation of hand washers !

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (zr5Kq)

407 391 Reporter doing the One Percenter bullshit, "Rand Paul had no symptoms but got a test, you say no symptoms no test!!"
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)

Rand Paul was a candidate because the loss of part of his lung... Thanks to a Dem hater like you,the reporter

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (5bxa0)

408 389 clutch cargo. .. just been a rough few days..as I said don't want to go into now. I'm okay. yeah scared but just threw a prayer up to my Father..he will keep me safe.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (dUJdY)

God is still in charge, Jewells.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (90T4r)

409 {{{Jewells}}}

There are some miserable shit-stirrers here.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (TdMsT)

410 Chloroquine is a well known drug. NIH did 2005 study of IT on corono virus and found it effective.

Posted by: azalea city at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (WX+x0)

411 Is it my imagination or are there fewer reporters there?

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (COzlW)

412 She literally asked for it.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (w+Ped)

I took your orignal post as a lighthearted joke. I have no idea if I was right.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (uEbPt)

413 So, apropos of nothing whatsoever, there's a scene in Airplane! where a panicking woman is serially slapped by all the passengers. It's played for humor. I think the point was that not only are hysterics not useful, they are actively counterproductive and contagious. That said, a little diplomacy in delivery of a message never hurt anyone.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (87EdW)

414 There's also an oximeter on recent Samsung phones like the s8, s9, s10, etc... on the back of the phone. Not saying you should go out and get a $500 plus phone because of that but if you already have one run SAMSUNG Health and measure "stress" and it will show you your oxygen level.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (l6b3d)

415 I think I'll move to Peruvia and open a dental floss farm.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (Uu+Jp)

416 I'm reallly hoping my lib friend in Atlanta is watching this presser. He promised me he would.

His precious NYT keeps telling him Trump isn't doing a thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (ptqGC)

417 Reporter doing the One Percenter bullshit, "Rand Paul had no symptoms but got a test, you say no symptoms no test!!"


Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)

---
lost lung capacity from the rib damage and resultant pneumonia? check.

highly exposed public position with identified sources of infection? check.

he's exactly the sort of person who should be screened first.

F everyone who w*rks in the #MFM. they are all scum.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (vwf8z)

418
Jewells: after this, we're getting tacos

Posted by: AltonJackson
If you are finished, unload & show clear
at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (DUIap)

419 It's okay Ladyl.. I have thick skin.. and I have you guys

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (dUJdY)

420 They also take Malaria drugs
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dKiJG)

Yes, that's been mentioned too. There is no consensus about the locale thing though.

It's the increasingly likely 8 week max period from takeoff to burn out that has some hopeful, including me.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (Bwqq4)

421 The reporter wants to give the impression that Rand Paul had to defy testing protocol to get tested. Because Trumps testing protocol is faulty per reporter

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (Ig7tA)

422 I bought a cinchona supplement, just to have on hand. Hey..it's no worse than all the TP, right?

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (L3Rsz)

423 ALton!!!! Yes!!! omg.. gonna bring my favorite shirt to the MoMe!!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (dUJdY)

424 Federal Reserve--get lost. Just GO.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (TdMsT)

425 412 She literally asked for it.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (w+Ped)

I took your orignal post as a lighthearted joke. I have no idea if I was right.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (uEbPt)

It was. Then she went to 11.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (w+Ped)

426 Whelp, no more work at least the rest of the week...

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (/6GbT)

427 People with press passes seem to think that makes them advisors or cabinet members.
I guess eight years of Obama gave them that idea.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (QxTuE)

428 "hearty" characteristics

It sticks to the ribs!

Posted by: getting the banned back into the kitchen at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (HYLD4)

429 There are some miserable shit-stirrers here.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (TdMsT)

hello !

Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (rpxSz)

430 Reporter doing the One Percenter bullshit, "Rand Paul had no symptoms but got a test, you say no symptoms no test!!"
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)


and they shut it down

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (vEIlU)

431 Really messed up in here.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (sGotD)

432 He's doing well here today.

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (/ZYFC)

433 I can't believe they are giving Rand Paul a hard tome about getting tested. The man has had a time of it in recent years.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (a0IVu)

434 Nobody likes me! Everybody hates me! Guess I'll go eat bat!

Posted by: FDA at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (L2ZTs)

435 307 https://tinyurl.com/sy3zoos

Common sense approach from an MD.
A letter to DJT. Hope he takes the advice.
_________________

The guy is a scientist, not sure about he MD. I got the link from a cousin.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (DB16e)


Whenever someone who is not a doctor says "They don't teach this in medical school" or "This is something that doctors don't understand" 10 times out of 10, whatever they are saying is pseudoscientific bullshit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (dNzKv)

436 I think the treatment should be restricted exclusively to people who are being hospitalized with serious symptoms. If all you have is a nasty cough, you can get through it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (KZzsI)

437 The Coronavirus ate my Wendy's chili!

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (L2ZTs)

438 371 grammie, underlying conditions are often, well, underlying. Don't yell at me, okay?

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (90T4r)



I would never yell at you, tubal. But the guy does seem very vigorous and extremely active. Or did, till he caught the crud. I hope he'll come out of it okay.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (lwiT4)


Thanks, grammie. Poor guy. Prayers for him.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (90T4r)

439 Rev and I made the mistake of going to WalMart. It looked like we were in the Soviet Union. Depressing. I couldn't wait to leave.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (lwiT4)

440 Our city here in central Texas is being locked down starting tonight.

Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (2cuLk)

441 >>423
ALton!!!! Yes!!! omg.. gonna bring my favorite shirt to the MoMe!!! Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (dUJdY)

You'll want to be careful. I imagine there'll be a fair amount of face-licking at the MoMe.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (QgtlX)

442 I think Trump is trying to signal Wall Street and American business that this won't be lasting too much longer


unless I'm reading him wrong

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)

443 Not sure who this gal is, but, she's very impressive. Speaks very well and states things clearly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (WEBkv)

444 Isn't Shiva the God of construction?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (C1SGV)

445 It was. Then she went to 11.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (w+Ped)

Meanwhile we have new information. She said she's having a rough day. Can we please ease off the gas?

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (uEbPt)

446 I'm reminded of an episode of Mad Men where there is a shitshow fight going on and Harry Crane looks on in amazement saying "and I had nothing to do with it".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (gd9RK)

447 Great knowledge was gained, assholes. Knock it off.

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (/ZYFC)

448 436 I think the treatment should be restricted exclusively to people who are being hospitalized with serious symptoms. If all you have is a nasty cough, you can get through it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (KZzsI)

Agree, Christoper. I was coughing up a lung at the end of the year. Never had that before. Lasted about 2 or 3 weeks. Went away, finally, with no treatment.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (90T4r)

449 Jerks demanding to know if Trumps doctors on the panel endorse opening the country.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (Ig7tA)

450 439 Rev and I made the mistake of going to WalMart. It looked like we were in the Soviet Union. Depressing. I couldn't wait to leave.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (lwiT4)

That was me at our local Albertsons. I could not believe what I was seeing. Horrible.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (a0IVu)

451 H re's h ping t at c nt P losi c okes o h r own p legm and r ts in h ll.

Posted by: f'd at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (Tnijr)

452 424 Federal Reserve--get lost. Just GO.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (TdMsT)

*blows raspberry*

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (w+Ped)

453 There are some miserable shit-stirrers here.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (TdMsT)

There always has been. There always will be. If you issue a challenge around here and some accepts it, why get mad?

Posted by: U mad bro? at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (/LQkF)

454 this is where all the wine moms come to cuss

Posted by: blank at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (B+t5k)

455 Reporters: Whatever you plan to do, we will blame you for not doing the other. So now, can you give us a quote so we can nail you on this later?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (LWu6U)

456 394 Hopefully Summer will burn this off.
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Forecast calls for possible record highs here later this week--may hit 90 degrees on Thursday. A heat wave across the country would surely be welcome right about now.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (sWM8x)

457 Bitch, youre here doing your job and getting paid, thrres a lot of people wanna get some too.

Posted by: BluesFish at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (WQZ1O)

458 I think Trump is trying to signal Wall Street and American business that this won't be lasting too much longer


unless I'm reading him wrong
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)


exactly how I read it too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (vEIlU)

459 >>454
this is where all the wine moms come to cuss Posted by: blank at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (B+t5k)

Her wine-box brings all the boys to the yard...

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (QgtlX)

460 @455 Pretty much. These people are so ridiculous.

Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (L3Rsz)

461 I like Trump's new tack. I really do. It's healthy.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (uEbPt)

462 Rev and I made the mistake of going to WalMart. It looked like we were in the Soviet Union. Depressing. I couldn't wait to leave.

Posted by: grammie winger


That was me at our local Albertsons. I could not believe what I was seeing. Horrible.
Posted by: IC


The grocery sections look like day 6 of an 8 day going out of business sale.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (2GjZZ)

463 Pandemics bring out the best in people.


Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (Zz0t1)

Share my bat sampler?

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (uM6CE)

464 I spoke to my sister, who's employed by the local school district.

They're quoting a return-to-school date of May 3 at this time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (L2ZTs)

465
China has one idea I do like, though. Giving bad people a Bleach Bath.

Apparently, there are lots of idiots still "partying" in California and Florida.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (PMDgy)

466 Zod.. I do draw the line at face licking.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (dUJdY)

467 More Anecdotal Evidence That Chloroquinine Is Effective; The FDA is to Blame For the Six Weeks of Delay in Coronavirus Testing

This suggests that a lot of the morbidity/mortality is from opportunistic bacterial infections consequent upon lung damage from the virus.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (YqDXo)

468

What really matters about Yellow Bat Fever: how many people are going to have be hospitalized at any given vs how many hospital beds are available. And of that subset, how many are going to need ICU and ventilators to keep them alive vs the supply of those.

That's the only stat that matters.

NYC has turned out to be the first hotspot for this. It's gonna be an early test compared to the rest of the country. We'll know in about two weeks how bad or not this going to be.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (f1Vqw)

469 I simply cannot picture how Obama would be treated by these honorary advisors and cabinet members if he were to have had to confront such a problem.



Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (QxTuE)

470 Press headline"Trump cares more about Wall Street then Main Street."

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (5bxa0)

471 Trump is throwing this squarely onto the governors and mayors. Freaking genius.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)

472 The press sure is enjoying every minute of the shutdown.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (uEbPt)

473 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM
________________________

He's an MIT Phd guy. I just got the link from my cousin. It's a 2 minute read

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (DB16e)

474 >>Whenever someone who is not a doctor says "They don't teach this in medical school" or "This is something that doctors don't understand" 10 times out of 10, whatever they are saying is pseudoscientific bullshit.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed

And they are usually pissed off that they aren't a MD.

Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (2cuLk)

475 I guess it takes wisdom to discern between a challenge and a cry to not be attacked for something. Apparently some fail that test. Maybe all of us would, on different days, just about everyone here is a wiseass at least one time or another.

Its just worth considering that especially these days its worth going the extra mile to be compassionate and sympathetic instead of the usual Horde pile-on. You don't always have to be busting balls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (KZzsI)

476 I will pray for you, Jewell that I would like to
to say in response to Not So" that Jewell's jewelry is beautiful ,and she is not hawking junk Some lovely person on here was kind enough to send me earrings and a bracelet which she mde
with a little cross and I feel good whenever I wear them. Jewell also sent a charm with a dove which I gave to friend who was having hard time. It is wonderful to have a gift and talent
that brings joy to people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (WI7YS)

477 396 "377 But the reason for the push on testing is to ramp up numbers, to frighten people and drive policy.
Posted by: Christopher


Yes.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (LWu6U) "



This.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (zlgJP)

At first we had the case where Death numbers looked really bad because they were ONLY able to test people who were really sick.

So you suddenly have it in everyone's brain that this has like a 10% death rate, when in actuality its much much lower.

But now we are testing people who have less symptoms but are not really in danger of dying so we have more total cases.

but that high death rate number is still in peoples heads, thus the panic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (NgKpN)

478 Another big thing Japan did is close the schools. Masks and closing schools, and Japan is in better shape than anywhere else.

I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (LWu6U)

479 I think Trump is trying to signal Wall Street and American business that this won't be lasting too much longer





unless I'm reading him wrong

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)



exactly how I read it too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (vEIlU)



Please, Lord.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (lwiT4)

480 The guy going on about Rand Paul is very aggressive almost angry.

Jackass level: 11.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (WEBkv)

481
If you issue a challenge around here and some accepts it, why get mad?

What "challenge?"
There was no "challenge" you fucking child.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (PMDgy)

482 Really messed up in here.
Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (sGotD)

They're bouncing off the walls and landing on their heads in freeper-land.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (Bwqq4)

483 I like Trump's new tack. I really do. It's healthy.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM


I wish I had some new tack.

Posted by: zombie Mr. Ed at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (DMUuz)

484 I do draw the line at face licking.


Lick faces. Eat dirt. This is how we build immunity.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (gd9RK)

485 Reporters don't understand why Uncle Fed doesn't dictate rule to the individual states.

Trump says let the states have responsibility over the education of its children.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (oUnSf)

486 Pandemics bring out the best in people.


Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (Zz0t1)

Share my bat sampler?
Posted by: Chunk Hunger


Scored some Maruchan Ramen Bat Flavor.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (2GjZZ)

487 Note that the 'open letter' disparaging the medical industry is posted on a campaign for senator website.

He's a politician, not a doctor.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (s9Eo8)

488 Here in the post-apocalyptic, zombie-infested ruins of Pensacola (PAZIROP) the shelves at the local Publix have noticable bare spots, but there's still significant wares for barter. 6 squirrel pelts for a 12 piece fried chicken in the deli.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (87EdW)

489 to say in response to Not So" that Jewell's jewelry is beautiful ,and she is not hawking junk Some lovely person on here was kind enough to send me earrings and a bracelet which she mde
with a little cross and I feel good whenever I wear them. Jewell also sent a charm with a dove which I gave to friend who was having hard time. It is wonderful to have a gift and talent
that brings joy to people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March



yeah, kind of hard to see the disitinction between not doing gofundme and doing direct marketing.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (HALdu)

490 >>476
I will pray for you, Jewell that I would like to

to say in response to Not So" that Jewell's jewelry is beautiful
,and she is not hawking junk Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (WI7YS)

She's apparently not licking face, either.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (QgtlX)

491 Trump is throwing this squarely onto the governors and mayors. Freaking genius.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)

Which is why so many of them are demanding a nationwide lockdown. Abject cowards.

Posted by: Hans Gruber in 2020 at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (nu45M)

492 Freeper....that's a blast from the past.

Didn't even know they were still around.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out a lot of people give a damn! at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (w2QL7)

493 "We are preparing to shift into get the fuck back to work mode. "

My press conference paraphrase.



Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (mw1Wz)

494 "458 I think Trump is trying to signal Wall Street and American business that this won't be lasting too much longer


unless I'm reading him wrong
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)

exactly how I read it too"

It's exactly what he is doing. The markets will continue to crash until they know things are going to end whenever that is. Also, small businesses may weather a bit longer if they know there is a date certain.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (puu6v)

495 This is where the wine gods of destruction go to kill time.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (C1SGV)

496 Boris Johnson announced this afternoon that the UK is going on lockdown as of tonight. Link at Insty for those who want the details.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (pPNCa)

497 So.

Where's that super-smart guy who wanted to prosecute Trump for murder?

Maybe he should look at the CDC... not to mention that State Dep't fool who said sure, let's bring a plane full of citizens back together with some who we *know* have this new bug...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (0ReGO)

498 What the media is saying to downplay the promise of hydrochloroqine sulfate is in every aspect a pack of bad-faith, unconscionable, transparently partisan, goddamned lies.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (wCLLY)

499 They're quoting a return-to-school date of May 3 at this time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (L2ZTs)


My idiot governor (Coonman-VA) has canceled school for the rest of the year

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (BiNEL)

500 can't believe they are giving Rand Paul a hard tome about getting tested. The man has had a time of it in recent years.

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They know they can because the only time they reported on it was the one 10 second spot at 5:17am and/or on page 4B under the article about the new FDA rules regarding importation of elderberry juice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (41rs/)

501 I don't like hating people as much as I hate the media and the left... really I don't.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (Uu+Jp)

502 The guy going on about Rand Paul is very aggressive almost angry.

Rand Paul is gonna replace respirators, face masks and tests as their shiny new object

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (5bxa0)

503 Reporters: When will you make life perfect? Weeks? Months?

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (cF8AT)

504 Another big thing Japan did is close the schools. Masks and closing schools, and Japan is in better shape than anywhere else.

I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen

_______________

Japan might be the cleanest country on Earth, that might play a role in it.

Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.

Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (sjTfF)

505 but that high death rate number is still in peoples heads, thus the panic.

Yeah most of the panic (even in otherwise educated, intelligent people who should know better) is being driven by early information. Early estimates on infection rate, early ideas on how long the virus survived on a surface, early projections on spreading, etc.

All of it was wrong and sometimes excessively so. All of it has driven the response since then without any moderation or change based on changing data.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (KZzsI)

506 You know what helps ?

Cornbread.

Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (POXG+)

507 Anecdotal, but I know a Doctor who is both OCD, and prone to hysteria. If one got ALL their info from this medical person, one's proper response would be to go home and turn on the gas.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (90T4r)

508 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (f1Vqw)

Yup, one of the interesting reports about Italy was that even before the Coronas hit, their Hospital system was already at the breaking point.

This just pushed it way over the edge.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (NgKpN)

509 Grocery stores around here starting to get tad better. I spoke with workers at 2 stores and they're saying it's starting to get bit better. Closer to normal.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (Dhht7)

510 506 You know what helps ?

Cornbread.
Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (POXG+)

Always. Avec beans.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (90T4r)

511 There was no "challenge" you fucking child.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (PMDgy)

Interesting way to de-escalate there. Have you copyrighted that method?

Posted by: Mad is as mad does. at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (/LQkF)

512 "491 Trump is throwing this squarely onto the governors and mayors. Freaking genius.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)

Which is why so many of them are demanding a nationwide lockdown. Abject cowards."

Cuomo is an asshole but cunning, too. He agreed that things will have to change. Donors and his supporters are putting the pressure on.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (puu6v)

513 >> This suggests that a lot of the morbidity/mortality is from opportunistic bacterial infections consequent upon lung damage from the virus.

I was listening to some respiratory doc talking about this last night. Z-pack has some clinically significant anti-inflammatory properties that are not well understood in addition to the antibiotic properties. The x-quinines, which are used for RA and other autoimmune conditions have anti-inflammtory and immune modulation effects.

He speculates that the ones that get the sickest may have be having an immune overreaction in the lungs causing the damage and all that, and the above properties of those drugs may explain their effectiveness.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (f1Vqw)

514 Other than a few cities (NY is probably the worst) it looks like that "flattening of the curve" is beginning to happen.

I'm thinking May could be the easing back.

As long as people aren't stupid, and as long as China doesn't try to target us again.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (vEIlU)

515 >>> 499 They're quoting a return-to-school date of May 3 at this time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (L2ZTs)

My idiot governor (Coonman-VA) has canceled school for the rest of the year
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (BiNEL)

But he CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARES.

He's totes not trying to bankrupt the entire state.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (0ReGO)

516 >>My idiot governor (Coonman-VA) has canceled school for the rest of the year Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (BiNEL)
Roundabout mid-summer his parents-who-love-their-kids-but-are-sick-of-them-hanging-around-all-day constituency is gonna be waaaay in his ear about this latest idiocy.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (QgtlX)

517 What the media is saying to downplay the promise of hydrochloroqine sulfate is in every aspect a pack of bad-faith, unconscionable, transparently partisan, goddamned lies.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (wCLLY)


To be fair, They have a proud reputation and tradition to uphold!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (BiNEL)

518 I'm not here to hock stuff either but I'd sure like it if you clicked on my name and bought a book or two. Give you something to do in the lockdowns and quarantines.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (KZzsI)

519

Birx, aka Scarf Lady is awesome

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (vEIlU)

520 Just gonna sit here and wait for the banning.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (oVJmc)

521 He's totes not trying to bankrupt the entire state.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (0ReGO


Nah, a principled man like that would never do such a thing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (BiNEL)

522 another vote for Jewell.. i love my key chain, and it's suspended over the top of Asshole Central here.


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (vwf8z)

523 509 Grocery stores around here starting to get tad better. I spoke with workers at 2 stores and they're saying it's starting to get bit better. Closer to normal.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (Dhht7)

Ours is still at the 'you get one pack of 8 rolls of TP, one loaf of bread, one carton of eggs and one bag of rice'. Depressing.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (a0IVu)

524 You know what helps ?

Cornbread.

-

Eat cornbread, raise hell.

RIP Chukker

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (41rs/)

525 To be fair, They have a proud reputation and tradition to uphold!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (BiNEL)

LOL

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (uEbPt)

526 Drug combo is so common, there is a nickname for ot.

"Z-Pak"

There's what, 20,000 people who have it, and maybe 20% are really sick


The USA has enough on the shelves already.

Democrats are using this crisis now to dump Trump.

Nancy Pelosi showed her hand in the last 24 hours.

Country is opening back up after the 15 days.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (EL4ni)

527 Soon the states will vary widely in cases and attendant problems so letting them decide things makes sense to me.

For example, Washington with be out of this before states that didn't have any known cases at first.

Turn the states back on as they are able to do so.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (Bwqq4)

528 Another big thing Japan did is close the schools. Masks and closing schools, and Japan is in better shape than anywhere else.

I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen

Taiwan and Singapore doing quite well and I don't think either shut down their schools.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (nu45M)

529 If I may make a Modest Proposal...

if you're going to stir shit and make attacks do it from a long recognized nic, and ....

if you're getting shit stirred by an anon who doesn't have a long recognized nic just ignore it.

Please be seated.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (gd9RK)

530 PDT is laying out his plan very well.

Blunt force initially to try and mitigate and moving toward more targeted mitigation.

Wall street is important because people need to be able to pay bills and put food on the table.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (WEBkv)

531 You know what helps ?

Cornbread.

Always. Avec beans.


https://youtu.be/6yy6qICUTe0

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (KZzsI)

532 It was never thought that a respiratory disease could hit during a flu epidemic.

Hmmm. Why the hell not?

Is not their core principle that it is not a matter of if but when?

Pretty fuckin lame contingency thinking at the CDC.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (QxTuE)

533 The press thinks they're the prosecutors in the court of public opinion.

Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (l3+k2)

534 Please don't come in our house with dirty feet.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (lwiT4)

535 If I may make a Modest Proposal...

if you're going to stir shit and make attacks do it from a long recognized nic, and ....

if you're getting shit stirred by an anon who doesn't have a long recognized nic just ignore it.

Please be seated.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (gd9RK)


Seconded.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out a lot of people give a damn! at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (w2QL7)

536 Love it. Take your dirty fucking shoes off before I invite you to my house and bedroom.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (C1SGV)

537 445 It was. Then she went to 11.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (w+Ped)

Meanwhile we have new information. She said she's having a rough day. Can we please ease off the gas?
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (uEbPt)

446 I'm reminded of an episode of Mad Men where there is a shitshow fight going on and Harry Crane looks on in amazement saying "and I had nothing to do with it".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (gd9RK)

447 Great knowledge was gained, assholes. Knock it off.
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (/ZYFC)

-----------

Always with the Negative Waves Moriarty! Always with the Negative Waves!

Posted by: Oddball grooving in his Sherman at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (+0uDE)

538 Birx, aka Scarf Lady is awesome

I know.. really pulls the room together.

lol.. sorry bad joke but it made me laugh when I thought of it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (dUJdY)

539 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (KZzsI)

Am I seeing live transmission of the asshole virus?

Serious question!

Posted by: FDA Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (BiNEL)

540 "oh godfather Trump, I don't know what to do...what to do!"

"You can stop being a Fauci and be a man!"

Posted by: Boswell at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (32YRo)

541 Another big thing Japan did is close the schools. Masks and closing schools, and Japan is in better shape than anywhere else.

I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen

_______________

Japan might be the cleanest country on Earth, that might play a role in it.

Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.

Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (sjTfF)


also, they follow the rules

look at Miami's beaches

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (vEIlU)

542 Soothsayer, brilliant call on that toad Fauci.

If he had his way we would all live in a giant bubble and maintain 10 foot social distancing for life.


Damn theoreticians.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (mw1Wz)

543 It is not so much Manhattan as it is Brooklyn.

Which is interesting and kind of undercuts the cw.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (HALdu)

Isn't the Brooklyn outbreak mostly among certain Hasidic sects?

Posted by: Fox2! at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (qyH+l)

544 You know, if they had good sitcoms nowadays, "My Idiot Governor" would be a great title, and very popular in so many states.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (C1Lsn)

545 Japan might be the cleanest country on Earth, that might play a role in it.

Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.

Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago


Also pretty much just Japanese and not a melting pot from every shit hole known to man.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (2GjZZ)

546 Z-pack is amazing. Daughter had pneumonia and 5 days of Z-pack cleared it.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (a0IVu)

547 Which is why so many of them are demanding a nationwide lockdown. Abject cowards.
Posted by: Hans Gruber in 2020 at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (nu45M)
----------
Our Gov in MN flinched today when everyone expected a lockdown - and we're at 169 cases with 1 fatality. They were really prepared to shut down under those numbers. Give me a freaking break.

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (/ZYFC)

548 i scored a box of 150 large eggs yesterday.

and promptly e-mailed a bunch of local folks that they were $2.50/dozen (10 cents more than my cost, w/ free local delivery.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (vwf8z)

549 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM
________________________

He's an MIT Phd guy. I just got the link from my cousin. It's a 2 minute read
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (DB16e)


Oh, yeah. He makes sure you fully understand that you are dealing with someone who has an MIT PHD!!! 4 Degrees from MIT!! Did I mention MIT???? And I invented email?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (dNzKv)

550 Birx, aka Scarf Lady is awesome




yes...Colonel Birx

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (zr5Kq)

551 It was either the masks or the vending machines selling soiled underwear.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (41rs/)

552 Drug combo is so common, there is a nickname for ot.
"Z-Pak"

No. The z pack is just the Azithromicin.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (uEbPt)

553 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (KZzsI)

I did go to your website-and by the way you have a very nice face-which is neither here no there because you can't actually sell your face with your books. but then at the time I was looking I got a call and had to leave, so what is a first book I should read?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (WI7YS)

554 "oh godfather Trump, I don't know what to do...what to do!"

"You can stop being a Fauci Fredo and be a man!"
Posted by: Boswell


Fixt.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (2GjZZ)

555 To quote my late grandfather, the chemistry genius:

GOOD GRIEF!

Posted by: pookysgirl, crayon expert at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (XKZwp)

556 OMG! Trump!

Asking the doc if the rest of the "angry, angry reporters will ever all be allowed in the room together."

LOL!

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (cF8AT)

557 Dr. Brix when are you going to perform a miracle?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (oUnSf)

558 Let the blue states that are having the biggest problems order the lockdowns, not Trump.

I'm in between the two extreme camps of "this is nothing" and "this is the worst thing that's ever happened" Some areas, I'm not saying it's a terrible idea, but i do think the people who are making the most of this just happen to be Democrat Governors that will almost certainly run for President someday. That's not an accident

I'm for short term social distancing, I just don't know what you do long term. We can't have a global depression where life changes forever to save a few 90 year olds in nursing homes that were probably at nearly the same risk with a garden variety flu.

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (sjTfF)

559 I got a Z pack as a second attempt against a bacterial resistant strep many years ago (along with a concomitant ear infection). Think the first go round was erythromycin- didn't touch it. The z pack was a one-dose thing. Killed it good, but had terrible "stomach discomfort" for days after.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (87EdW)

560

Here's a paper on the anti-inflammatory properties of Z-pak:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22766077

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (f1Vqw)

561 Z-pack is amazing. Daughter had pneumonia and 5 days of Z-pack cleared it.
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (a0IVu)


Oh, yeah. The venerable zpack. The hammer in every NPs toolbox

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (dNzKv)

562 Ours is still at the 'you get one pack of 8 rolls of TP, one loaf of bread, one carton of eggs and one bag of rice'. Depressing.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (a0IVu)



Went to four different stores today, 2 within Senior Hours. Not a roll to be found.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (lwiT4)

563 If I may point it out, EVERY virus floating around this time of year is not CoVid-19. Sadly, lots of people with colds , flu, and even seasonal allergies are gonna be unduly worried.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (90T4r)

564 Am I seeing live transmission of the asshole virus?

I'll freely admit that sometimes when I come on here I'm snarling and snapping and ready for a fight, which doesn't end well. It usually happens when I have gotten too many sugars in my diet, makes me really irritable for some reason. I say and do stuff I later regret. That people seem to forgive me or at least roll their eyes and say "oh that's just CRT" is a blessing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (KZzsI)

565 My idiot governor (Coonman-VA) has canceled school for the rest of the year Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (BiNEL)
Roundabout mid-summer his parents-who-love-their-kids-but-are-sick-of-them-hanging-around-all-day constituency is gonna be waaaay in his ear about this latest idiocy.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (QgtlX)

What's up with Coonman? How does an idiot like that get into politics and get elected anyhow?

Must be a lot of dumb asses in Virginny....

The man is a walking disaster show.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (Z+IKu)

566 Trump is now trolling the enemedia. Love it.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (VNfwt)

567 393 I am hoping by the end of this week we will have more 'anecdotal' data on the effectiveness of the mlaaria drug
_____________

NY state is starting trials of it this week, so there should be more than "anecdotal" evidence soon.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (k4dH2)

568 "519

Birx, aka Scarf Lady is awesome"

Absolutely. Trump is a genius to question her directly and cut the reporters out.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (puu6v)

569 Anecdotal, but I know a Doctor who is both OCD, and
prone to hysteria. If one got ALL their info from this medical person,
one's proper response would be to go home and turn on the gas.

Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (90T4r)

---
lemme guess: they w*rk for the VA, right?

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (vwf8z)

570 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM
______________

It's a pretty good common sense read. Dont read and dont agree if you wish.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (DB16e)

571
Taiwan and Singapore doing quite well and I don't think either shut down their schools.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (nu45M)

Singapore purposely did not close its schools. They were afraid of the second and third order effects on the doctors and nurses availability. There was an article about this ages ago... like last week.

Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (+0uDE)

572 IC.. the only time I had pneumonia was several years ago. It was horrible. I learned what death rattle meant! I could hear my lungs bubbling when I breathed. Doc said.. well I can put you in the hospital or give you this shot in your ass. I voted for shot in the ass. Good Christ.. I could hardly walk and I was already miserable.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (dUJdY)

573 Z-pack has some clinically significant anti-inflammatory properties that are not well understood in addition to the antibiotic properties. The x-quinines, which are used for RA and other autoimmune conditions have anti-inflammtory and immune modulation effects....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:16
-------------------------
BF's wife is taking both for her rheumatoid arthritis. Part oral and part infusion. Pharmacy told her she may not get refill next month on Z-pac. Guess, it's gonna go to NY.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (Dhht7)

574
Went to four different stores today, 2 within Senior Hours. Not a roll to be found.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (lwiT4)

We had to line up 15 mins before the store opened in order to get it. This whole thing is beyond madness.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (a0IVu)

575 what is a first book I should read?

There's no series, just whatever seems to appeal to you. If you don't like fantasy probably none of them will

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (KZzsI)

576 HAHAHAHA

Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (l3+k2)

577 here it comes:

'why aren't we doing what Europe is doing?'

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (iTXRQ)

578 Jewels45 is a treasure.

Leave her alone.

Asshole.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (EL4ni)

579 Oo's fightin' and a wot for?

Posted by: Mick Jagger at altamont at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (a1s18)

580 This is the way we seat people when they have TB.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (oUnSf)

581 This is the sort of shit that warrants a military tribunal and subsequent firing squads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (miJU3)

582 Z-pack has some clinically significant anti-inflammatory properties that
are not well understood in addition to the antibiotic properties. The
x-quinines, which are used for RA and other autoimmune conditions have
anti-inflammtory and immune modulation effects....



I like turtles.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (mw1Wz)

583 TRump : "Barr, you go now".

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (zr5Kq)

584 416 I'm reallly hoping my lib friend in Atlanta is watching this presser. He promised me he would.

His precious NYT keeps telling him Trump isn't doing a thing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (ptqGC)
***************
Send him Tom Cotton's tweet on the crap bill that Pelosi is trying to jam through which doesn't address the problem. People are hurting.


Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (wiXsO)

585 You know what helps ?

Cornbread.


And bacon.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (2GjZZ)

586 >>> 548 i scored a box of 150 large eggs yesterday.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM


Hoarder! Prepare to receive the swift hand of Justice that you suckers thought I was going to use on the leftist coup plotters.

Posted by: Barrrrrrr! at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (l6b3d)

587 Birx talking about the ridiculous numbers touted as possible infections. Said the models are based on no mediation AND for repeated waves over the years. Which is unrealistic and will not happen here.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (Ig7tA)

588 Insider information from store clerks here: the rush is at opening, people roll in and strip the place like locusts. They restock a while after that, and then there's more stuff. Go in around 10-11 or so supposedly it will be better.

What's on the shelf is just what fits, they have a warehouse with more stuff in back.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (KZzsI)

589 506 You know what helps ?

Cornbread.
Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (POXG+)
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That's anecdotal, of course, but it's certainly known that cornbread never hurts. Especially open-faced with butter, covered with black eyed peas and minced onion.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (sWM8x)

590 >>Z-pack is amazing. Daughter had pneumonia and 5 days of Z-pack cleared it.

#MeToo

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (ZLI7S)

591 "that way you don't grow resistant pathogens and you don't waste resources. if your symptoms are mild, you're likely NOT going to get the cocktail. if you start to get rocky, that's another story." Posted by: redc1c4

depends on many things ... pathogens can mutate even without the treatment, and in an emergency outbreak, an earlier treatment prevents wider spread. Wider spread also means more mutations ... so letting it go "viral" or feral in a community is also unwise. Isolation is difficult, recovery may be slow.


They are ramping up production even now .. a couple places, one US, one Israel iirc. But there are experts not part of the leftist mafia that evaluate all that stuff, if they don't get cut out of the process by corrupt department head that are members of "Hilda's resistance".

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (Cus5s)

592 572 IC.. the only time I had pneumonia was several years ago. It was horrible. I learned what death rattle meant! I could hear my lungs bubbling when I breathed. Doc said.. well I can put you in the hospital or give you this shot in your ass. I voted for shot in the ass. Good Christ.. I could hardly walk and I was already miserable.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (dUJdY)

Lordy, jewells, that sounds terrible. Yeah, daughter had that rattle too and after a chest x-ray it was a prescription of z-pack and something else for her cough..

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (a0IVu)

593 I think Trump was trying to lead her to say that we will get back to normal but she wouldn't bite because she's a doctor.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (uEbPt)

594 nood Jake

Posted by: banana Dream at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (l6b3d)

595 Also pretty much just Japanese and not a melting pot from every shit hole known to man.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (2GjZZ)

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner winner Bat Wing Dinner!

Absolutely correct Rick B!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (Z+IKu)

596 'why aren't we doing what Europe is doing?'

Why isn't Europe doing what we're doing? Italy is a disaster, I wouldn't take them as a model.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (KZzsI)

597 no one put NOOD

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (vEIlU)

598 The Japanese believe in cleanliness, that's for sure. They also believe in rules and a certain order in things. Until it's time to board a train and it's every man for himself. Almost got crushed returning from Miyajima.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (C1Lsn)

599 545 Japan might be the cleanest country on Earth, that might play a role in it.

Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.

Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago

Also pretty much just Japanese and not a melting pot from every shit hole known to man.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (2GjZZ)


And the citizenry doesn't act like filthy toddlers who cram everything they can get their hands on into their fucking gobs.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (DTX3h)

600 Hello horde. I just got home from work. The parking lot at the airport is f*cking frightening. I imagine this is what it looked like in the days following 9/11.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (6ofTb)

601 Oo's fightin' and a wot for?
Posted by: Mick Jagger at altamont



You didn't even need to sign that. I recognized it right away.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (gd9RK)

602 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (KZzsI)

Got it, I was hoping I didn't understand the background!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (BiNEL)

603
I heartily endorse cornbread.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (iTXRQ)

604 You know, if they had good sitcoms nowadays, "My Idiot Governor" would be a great title, and very popular in so many states.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (C1Lsn)


Chico and the Coonman.

Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (2N7oZ)

605 .

Posted by: non entity at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (B+t5k)

606 Let the blue states that are having the biggest problems order the lockdowns, not Trump.

Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (sjTfF)

That's the thing, when their states are still on lockdown and others aren't and are doing fine, their citizens are going to get mad. They don't want to deal with that and they're too inept to make the case to their people that the conditions warrant it.

Heck, they really don't even want to deal with the urban vs. rural divides in their own states. I'd be super pissed if I lived in some small village in upstate NY.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (nu45M)

607 Northernlurker,

There's a reason you are still here and she is gone. it's nearly impossible to figure out why that is. Just know that there is a reason for you to be here and sometime, you'll finish that last task.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (JKNZq)

608 >>>>Z-pack is amazing. Daughter had pneumonia and 5 days of Z-pack cleared it.

It is. Sadly, doesn't work on viruses, tho.

Posted by: Caliban at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (QE8X6)

609 I dont know why PDT pays all these advisors. He could just read a smart military blog that has a horde pandemic expert morons that know all of this shit.

Posted by: Dingbat at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (KylN9)

610 Nood
Not sure if anyone said that yet.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (QxTuE)

611 Same female reporter demanding Birx say whether she will endorse Trump opening the country. Jumping up and down in her seat while demanding an answer and pointing her finger. Birx not falling for it.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (Ig7tA)

612 Hmm...I don't know that I agree. When I first came here, 16 years ago, I lurked for a few weeks, then ventured a comment or two, then joined the free for all. I don't think I care for an "old Corps" vibe. I understand about trolls doing hit and runs, but they're easy enough to spot. My preference is, join the convoy, and if it's a snark, well, be prepared to take as much as you dish.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (87EdW)

613
I've got RA, and had to stop taking the infusion (immune suppressing biologic brand named "Simponi Aria") for my knee replacement last month.

I should be able to start taking it again with the go ahead from the surgeon this week, but I'm not going to until this thing is over.

And I already had a little flare this morning, reminding me the RA is ramping up again. I'll deal with flaring RA, rather than a suppressed infection fighting ability.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (f1Vqw)

614 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (KZzsI)

Well, I don't usually read fantasy except for Douglas
Adams and Terry Pratchett-which I loved. Do you have a favorite of your books? I guess that's like asking a parent which is their favorite child, eh?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (WI7YS)

615 a group of hospitals here in SoCal already have the cocktail as part of their protocol for dealing with the Chinese virus.

according to Resident 3vil, my personal clinical pharmacist, among other things that have been discovered is that treating lung inflammation with steroids, which is standard therapy for that sort of things had worse results than not using the,, likely due to further weakening of the immune system.

azithromycin also has anti-inflammatory properties, as well as some anti-viral ones, despite being an antibiotic.

i suspect we will know more about both after all the data is crunched in the AAR post panic.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (vwf8z)

616 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM
______________

It's a pretty good common sense read. Dont read and dont agree if you wish.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (DB16e)


Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM
______________

It's a pretty good common sense read. Dont read and dont agree if you wish.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (DB16e)


I read it. He is an egomaniac who believes his credentials make him the authority on all things, then spits out a bunch of recommendations about vitamin A and D without any support. I'll say it again, if the basis of your argument is that your knowledge is light years ahead of our current "medieval" medical science, and doctors just don't understand the things that you do, then whatever you are peddling is pseudoscientific bullshit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (dNzKv)

617 Serious question.

What do people who work and have a kid or kids in say, the second or third grade, who isn't old enough to be home by themselves, do when businesses open back up and school doesn't, because they closed it two and a half months early?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (2GjZZ)

618 I do understand the FDA's reluctance to clear this stuff, who knows what unexpected side effects or problems it might cause. This isn't Dr House where you can just experiment on people until you get it right. Sorry you almost died 3 times and got a horrific allergic reaction. House wanted to try something new. Please don't sue us again.

At the same time, this stuff should be used on every dying patient unless there is a clear conflict with their physiology or other medicine. I mean if they're gonna die, the side effects seem pretty minor in comparison.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (KZzsI)

For fuck's sake, Chris. The stuff has been on the market for 70 years. Most of the adverse reactions crop up after long-term use. Knocking down a WuFlu infection is the very definition of "short-term" use. Many countries sell it OTC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2020 07:29 PM (miJU3)

619 588 Insider information from store clerks here: the rush is at opening, people roll in and strip the place like locusts. They restock a while after that, and then there's more stuff. Go in around 10-11 or so supposedly it will be better.

What's on the shelf is just what fits, they have a warehouse with more stuff in back.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (KZzsI)

I go shopping between 11-12-midnight and there are only a handful of people in the store but the usual items are sold out.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 07:32 PM (zqs/f)

620 Northernlurker,

There's a reason you are still here and she is gone. it's nearly impossible to figure out why that is. Just know that there is a reason for you to be here and sometime, you'll finish that last task.
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (JKNZq

I know but damn.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:32 PM (Uu+Jp)

621 Damn I think I am starting to ike this Brix (sp) person.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:34 PM (BiNEL)

622 Trump has shut down the asinine (and in some cases, evil) attempts to keep the country shut down until August.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:34 PM (puu6v)

623 302. Jewells FWIW my doctor friend supports what you have said about sudden onset and quick decline thereafter, not in all cases, but the threat is there. She is highly credentialed and has presented papers here and in the UK. I posted something else she said way at the end of the prior thread if you want to know more.

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2020 07:35 PM (hxWs0)

624 Northernlurker,

There's a reason you are still here and she is gone. it's nearly impossible to figure out why that is. Just know that there is a reason for you to be here and sometime, you'll finish that last task.
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (JKNZq

I know but damn.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:32 PM (Uu+Jp)


Both of you are right!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:35 PM (BiNEL)

625 Trying to make a fight between Fauci and the Prez.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:36 PM (oUnSf)

626 Too much of President Trumps problems have their roots in entrenched bureaucrats in government,installed in endless government purges by slick willy and Obama. They ceaselessly attack the President when an opportunity arises. Note Impeachment and the entrenched falsifying, lying, obstructing, State Dept, FBI, IRS, the list goes on and on. As does the lingering effects.....

Posted by: ron n. at March 23, 2020 07:37 PM (om5HK)

627 Georgia just announced a semi-lock down, no bars or restaurants or groups of more than 10 anywhere. Deep blue Atlanta is going full martial law. I will remain partially free for a few more days at least.

Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2020 07:37 PM (MxEKc)

628 Can you give me a good reason to close it?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:37 PM (oUnSf)

629 You just saw the braintrust you idiot.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:38 PM (oUnSf)

630 You just saw the braintrust you idiot.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:38 PM (oUnSf)


Should give us all an appreciation for the extreme left hand side of the IQ Bell curve!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:40 PM (BiNEL)

631 Let's see. Hmmmm. Yes. Tonight is modestly hot chili with beans spread over a generous bed of finely chopped green cabbage. Now what to drink? There is some cranberry juice in the fridge. Maybe a tumbler of cranberry mixed with a modestly priced vodka.

Dessert will be several slices of aged cheddar.

Wait, it's Monday! We took a vow to dress for dinner on Mondays, ever since the viral attack! My G-d, already a decent into savagry!

Guess that's the movie I watch tonight, The Omega Man. Be good to see Chuck again and see which present day MSM clown reminds me the most of the zombie news anchor.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 23, 2020 07:41 PM (e1mEI)

632 I don't understand the hold up at all. This is not a new drug. It's been given to military personnel for 30+ years. It's side effects are well known. The only question is whether or not it is effective in this application. Am I missing something?
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)

Even if it proves to be effective only half the time, give it anyway. It will flatten the peak.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2020 07:43 PM (miJU3)

633 Tonight is modestly hot chili with beans spread over a generous bed of finely chopped green cabbage

Are you trying to kill everyone in the house with farts?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:48 PM (KZzsI)

634 @544 "My Idiot Governor" sounds quite a lot like "Benson," that starred Robert Guillome and Rene (deep breath) Auberjonois, that ran in the mid-80's for a long time. Kind of a midwestern "Yes Minister."

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 23, 2020 07:54 PM (8IOEj)

635 You will get it. We will all get it. We are all doomed, and we're all going to die. This is known.


Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (QgtlX)

Of course, some will be on the Up Elevator and some will be on the Down Elevator.I have a feeling that most politicians, lawyers, judges, bureaucrats, etc will be on the Down.

Posted by: Grannymimi at March 23, 2020 08:01 PM (u5LFV)

636 I know, boys and girls.

Let's hand over ALL our healthcare to the Federal government.

After all, they're experts.

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 23, 2020 08:44 PM (T09ml)

637 In Paul Krugman's America that health-care worker would have been disappeared.

Posted by: Cluebat at March 23, 2020 09:05 PM (S8ld5)

638 123; Feel bad in the AM because the virus is reloading at night. Not enough ventilation in the bedroom, your breathing is not strong enough, virus adheres to the bedding Maybe adjust your sleep position to exhale off the side of the bed.

Please comrades; do not get shut in; fresh air and sunshine

Posted by: SF jeff at March 23, 2020 09:21 PM (kJqpv)

639 The thing in old school buses that limited their top speed was called a governor. Its purpose was to limit the speed at which the bus went about its task. There were various reasons for this, including safety, though in many cases, it just made the bus less safe, as nothing else was limited to that speed, and going at a dramatically different speed than the rest of traffic isn't necessarily going to do anything worthwhile. That is also the main purpose or effect of basically anything that has the root word "govern" in it. Taxes slow things down. Regulations slow things down. Some of the things it slows down are at least arguably socially useful. But, well, when your regulations require using postal mail in the age of the internet... you're slowing things down in all the wrong ways, for all the wrong reasons.

Posted by: DaveM at March 24, 2020 02:28 AM (WWC3Y)

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