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Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:00 AM (8D42x) Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:00 AM (UWqZJ) Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:00 AM (8D42x) 4
is it bad of me to wish all the dems, both declared and hidden, in DC and any govt agency would catch the fatal corona?
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:01 AM (8D42x) 5
Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at March 26, 2020 11:01 AM (q4iKf) 6
They say? Who say?
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2020 11:01 AM (X/Pw5) 7
CBD, this was the exact article my FB friend was referencing.
I went through the comments, and she held her ground against several panicky types. "We simply don't have enough data and it wouldn't be that hard to come up with a randomized sample." "But China ended it all without doing that! We have to be like China!" Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:01 AM (UWqZJ) 8
The MSM wants to destroy Trump. Any actual facts that get in way are either downplayed or ignored completely.
Posted by: Guzalot at March 26, 2020 11:02 AM (Rz36l) 9
Annnd, we're back
Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 26, 2020 11:02 AM (Do5/p) 10
corgis called
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:02 AM (8D42x) 11
hiya
Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:03 AM (arJlL) 12
Arrrrggggllllllbbbbuuuugggggg!!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at March 26, 2020 11:03 AM (UUBmN) 13
What the f*ck is wrong with those people in DC. Idiots, all of them.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (VNmG1) 14
I nooded, just in case
Posted by: Frodo, just FrodoB at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (gmSu9) Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (arJlL) 16
So when this 2 weeks of house arrest ends
and they renew it for another #2weeks and the hospitals are still overloaded... Will we be told 'Its never been done correctly' like they do with Socialism ?? Posted by: McCool at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (sZaoP) 17
Florida and James Evans.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (flINI) 18
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (Zz0t1) 19
So far we are at 1.4% mortality rate, I think. Which equals S.Korea. We are very low compared to other nations. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (8fB/R) 20
The latter rate is misleading because of selection bias in testing. The degree of bias is uncertain because available data are limited.
I've had some advanced statistics, which I forget, but as you note a basic statistics course would cover most of this. Selection bias is important. How big is the denominator? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (c4UJn) 21
People are dumb, dangerous, panicky animals. At a time like this, my overall lack of socialization during early life is a feature and not bug.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (NWiLs) 22
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:01 AM (UWqZJ)
Take a look at the death rate in Israel. They began testing very early, so have a good (not perfect) sample size. And Israelis love to travel, so undoubtedly their population has brought back more than their fair share of Sino-Lung-Rot. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (dLLD6) 23
Did anyone wash that monkey?
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (88+cf) 24
Where can we see the DOJ thing?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (8fB/R) 25
Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (dzyR5) 26
A basic understanding of statistics, data-gathering and a few other very simple skills that most people learn in a single statistics class would have gone a very long way toward a more sober and dispassionate analysis of the current pandemic.
From JJ Sefton's Morning Report links, this one he provided from The Federalist makes me believe even moreso that this was a left-wing operation from the get-go. They even had the COVID-19 website with scary predictions all ready to go. COVID Act Now website https://bit.ly/39it8u8 Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (Do5/p) 27
>>> It's behind a pay wall, but some of you may know how to get around it.
archive.today can often be used.. cut and paste the link in the search field Posted by: McCool at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (sZaoP) 28
I SEE SIX LIP STUDS!!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (axyOa) 29
Did anyone wash that monkey?
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (88+cf) ******** That's a euphemism... right? Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (flINI) Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (arJlL) 31
The UK professor whose model was the source of this panic has now walked it all back from 500K deaths in Britain to 20K, about half of whom would probably have died but the end of the year anyway. Whoopsie!
https://tinyurl.com/qp55o8y Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (H3ZEL) 32
god just told me it's o.k. to murder journalists and lawyers. I said, "are you sure?", god said, "there is no other way."
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (CLteG) 33
20 The latter rate is misleading because of selection bias in testing. The degree of bias is uncertain because available data are limited.
I've had some advanced statistics, which I forget, but as you note a basic statistics course would cover most of this. Selection bias is important. How big is the denominator? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (c4UJn) ============ The size of the denominator is less important than the randomness of the sample. A 1,000 sample truly random set is going to give you better data than 50,000 sample from retirement homes. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (UWqZJ) 34
this is the same question i asked this morning. and have been asking for a few days.
what are the numbers screened and ruled out? what are the numbers tested and negative? we know the total number of cases. what are the numbers of positive who need hospitalization? what are the number of hospitalized who actually need a ventilator and ICU? we know how many died. based on ALL of the above, i'd say that the mortality rate is in the .2-.4% range. we don't HAVE to have a totally random sample to figure out how over the top we're being right now, but it's definitely hair on fire sky is falling chicken fucking going on right now. Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (8D42x) 35
Larry The Cable Guy@GitRDoneLarry
Here's a message from people with a lot of possessions that can take a year off of work and not flinch telling everyone outa work to imagine a world with no possessions while people are living in the street a half mile away from 'em. RT - About the Gal Gadot Imagine video. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (+y/Ru) 36
29 Did anyone wash that monkey?
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (88+cf) ******** That's a euphemism... right? ---------------- petaphor Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (dzyR5) 37
San Fran Nan says we need an unlimited number of Ventilators
++++++ Thanks for clarifying that you seniledried up boothole Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (i0Vo7) 38
This working from home helps, but if we have an incident at work, they're going to need me to come in. I'm one of the few people that can do math.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (+0AKE) Posted by: Colonel Bat Guano at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (7s3Gx) 40
25 Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (dzyR5) Oh happy birthday! You and Pelosi. Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:07 AM (cF8AT) 41
Who Dis
Joan Collins and Tom Selleck I knew I'd get it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:00 AM (UWqZJ) Boom. Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2020 11:07 AM (Zz0t1) 42
Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
How does it feel to share a birthday with Pelosi? Posted by: Basement Cat at March 26, 2020 11:07 AM (pPNCa) 43
Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head Dear Sir or Madam, Happy Birthday ! Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:07 AM (arJlL) 44
That's right, CNN, cut away from Nancy before she gets questions about the pork.
Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2020 11:07 AM (mrrpT) 45
@marcorubio
Today @NicolasMaduro will be indicted by the @TheJusticeDept & charged with narco-terrorism Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (ZLI7S) 46
I think the media has been wrong every single time they've gone all-in unanimous hair on fire in support of something.
The more they shriek something, the more likely they're entirely wrong. Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (Uu+Jp) 47
god just told me it's o.k. to murder journalists and lawyers. I said, "are you sure?", god said, "there is no other way."
--If it's a journalist or lawyer, is it truly murder? Or spring cleaning? Posted by: Frodo, just FrodoB at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (gmSu9) 48
Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head ******* You share a Birfday with Sefton? So do I! Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (flINI) 49
25 Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM (dzyR5) Happy birthday! Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (NWiLs) 50
god just told me it's o.k. to murder journalists and lawyers. I said, "are you sure?", god said, "there is no other way."
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (CLteG) at this point, i'm becoming OK with God going back to the vengeful sort.. Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (8D42x) 51
48 Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head ******* You share a Birfday with Sefton? So do I! Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (flINI) ======== I thought I was the only one. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (UWqZJ) 52
I've been going to this link to see comparisons in countries.
www.covid-19canada.com/ scroll down, it looks like we are up to 1.5% mortality rate now Italy, 10.1% Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (8fB/R) 53
Anyone see that asshat reporter ask Trump "how many deaths (from corona) are acceptable to you?"
He hoped to trap him to saying something stupid, but Trump immediately shot back "Not ONE!. No deaths are acceptable to me." Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (CqE5x) Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (El6T/) 55
I tried to explain that more hospital beds & doctors per capita does NOT equate to better health care/outcomes to my neighbors which does equal to a lost cause.**
**is this like maths??? Posted by: lin-duh at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (UUBmN) 56
The Who Dis is the Invisible Man !
Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (arJlL) 57
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (ZLI7S)
********* Yeah but that ain't big news !!! Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (i0Vo7) 58
ahhhh, Nanzi just called the gOP racist regarding what dC gets out of this bill...
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (8D42x) Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (ZCEU2) 60
47 god just told me it's o.k. to murder journalists and lawyers. I said, "are you sure?", god said, "there is no other way."
--If it's a journalist or lawyer, is it truly murder? Or spring cleaning? Posted by: Frodo, just FrodoB at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (gmSu9) *charges rifle* I ain't gonna make it easy on ya. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (NWiLs) 61
how many seasonal flu deaths' have we had so far?
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (P4Pk9) Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (Zz0t1) 63
Prediction: Nancy Pelosi will die on a National Holiday.
Skeptic: How can you be so sure? Do you know for a fact when she'll die? Memorial Day, Independence Day, which? Prediction: Doesn't matter. The day she dies, ANY day she dies, will be declared a National Holiday! Cheers! Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (QzJWU) 64
>>> --If it's a journalist or lawyer, is it truly murder?
Reminds me of that quote from the Polish mercenary. Q: What does it feel like to kill people ? Him: I dont know, I've only ever killed communists Posted by: McCool at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (sZaoP) 65
I just read a headline Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day and Morgues are Near Capacity.
I don't mean to be cold here, but there's 8.6 million people in NYC and some loose calculations would say that around 200 people die every day there. How is 13 more overwhelming the system? Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (Wm5SB) Posted by: Frodo, just FrodoB at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (gmSu9) 67
Anyone see that asshat reporter ask Trump "how many deaths (from corona) are acceptable to you?"
He hoped to trap him to saying something stupid, but Trump immediately shot back "Not ONE!. No deaths are acceptable to me." Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:09 AM (CqE5x) He should have said just one death is acceptable to me-your's. Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (Uu+Jp) 68
Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head Hugs. Happy Birthday. What a way to spend it. Eat snacks. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (8fB/R) 69
Heard a new one today: Sino Sinus Syphilis.
Posted by: Bert G at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (OMsf+) 70
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He should have said just one death is acceptable to me-your's. Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (Uu+Jp) ========= "I'll meet you on Fifth Avenue." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (UWqZJ) 71
is it too much to ask God to strike nanzi down on the podium?
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (8D42x) 72
And chances are China is facing up to the predictions but are covering it up.
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (ZCEU2) 73
"hindered by the coronavirus"
Americans should put this on their 1040s and everything else for that matter. It's the new "my dog ate my homework". Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (mw1Wz) Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (k4dH2) 75
I share a lot of predictions around here (mostly good ones) so here's another to file away....
Once this burns off and we're trying to get back to normal, the House is going to hold televised "Coronavirus Hearings" with a panel to hold the administration "accountable" for "botching" the Coronavirus Response. Get ready for summer because it's coming. I predict it's going to be just as ugly as shampeachment, with another parade of fake experts, fools, and people with axes to grind who want book deals, and they will say *anything*. Coronavirus horror stories. Maybe even the woman who ate the fish tank cleaner at Trump's instruction. Democrats get more free election advertising. Former Obama official: "Trump told me he didn't care about who died or how many, he just wanted to protect his economy! {cries}" It's going to make you sick to your stomach and we're gonna be forced to talk about it for a month. Just my opinion. Posted by: ... at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (q53z0) Posted by: Frodo, just FrodoB at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (gmSu9) 77
He should have said just one death is acceptable to me-your's.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (Uu+Jp) ========= "I'll meet you on Fifth Avenue." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (UWqZJ) I'd still vote for him. Posted by: DR.WTF at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (aS1PU) 78
NY is really stepping out on becoming the Death State. They lead the pack with 354 today.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (dzyR5) 79
happy birfday Puddin
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (8D42x) 80
I really hope the R's retake the House so then we can go back to just being disappointed instead of pissed off.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (+0AKE) 81
If the Wuhan virus wasn't so deadly, why did the CCP, who don't mind killing 20 million people for no good reason, who keep people in prison in order to harvest their organs.... go to such lengths as to quarantine people by force, close down their factories and cover up a disease that their doctors had discovered?
Posted by: BluesFish at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (vnP3E) 82
Good morning Morning Monkey. So we're going for a drive today, hope that doesn't cause too many deaths
Posted by: zeera at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (zUdXR) 83
A basic understanding of statistics, data-gathering and a few other very
simple skills that most people learn in a single statistics class would have gone a very long way toward a more sober and dispassionate analysis of the current pandemic. __________ That, and a commitment to personal integrity ... but mostly a commitment to personal integrity. Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (WqPYg) 84
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The UK professor whose model was the source of this panic has now walked it all back from 500K deaths in Britain to 20K, about half of whom would probably have died but the end of the year anyway. Whoopsie! https://tinyurl.com/qp55o8y Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM ---- Exactly what I came to post. The freakout model this guy and his buddies used, why in the hell did anyone take them seriously? I have been saying since the beginning of this these two things can't be true at the same time: 1) The virus spreads like wildfire! 2) It's wayyyyyy worse than the normal flu! Well, which is it? It's been here (Canada) since early January, and most likely before. Either: It spreads like wildfire and we've all already been exposed, so there should be more people dying or really ill, or It doesn't spread very well at all, and we should be able to contain it. My business is closed because of panic and nothing more. Posted by: TheHoser at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (IDjUx) 85
Washington Post Opinions@PostOpinions
From the Editorial Board: Trump is spreading false hope for a virus cure - and that's not the only damage - Give up now. Avoid the rush. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (+y/Ru) 86
@jparkABC
Speaker Pelosi says she spoke to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin this morning about sending direct payments to qualifying Americans "technologically." Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (cF8AT) 87
A 1,000 sample truly random set is going to give you better data than 50,000 sample from retirement homes.
I think he's saying but what *IS* the denominator? You can't calculate a "per centum" without knowing the actual denominator. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (x/2Z8) 88
In a county of 1.1 million, officially on the books, we have less than 200 cases of wuhan. This morning starts a three week mandatory quarantine following two weeks of voluntary. The insanity isn't going to stop any time soon. If we're all going to die and this is so very serious, let's postpone the election in November.
Posted by: NCKate at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (XfMJE) 89
17 Florida and James Evans.
_____________ They're moving on up. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 11:11 AM (k4dH2) ******** That is George and Weezy Jefferson. Different high rise Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (flINI) 90
78 NY is really stepping out on becoming the Death State. They lead the pack with 354 today.
would love to see a true demographic breakdown on deaths I have a feeling that would answer BluesFish's question about China's bizarre response I think this is more deadly to the Chinese Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (j9HX3) 91
>>> How is 13 more overwhelming the system?
They should ask Chicago, thats a typical weekend there.. Posted by: McCool at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (sZaoP) 92
> Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate
No it isn't. The measures being taken are to "flatten the curve", to prevent hospitals from being overrun by cases happening all at once. Posted by: Original Roy at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (hOlnG) 93
Good morning Morning Monkey. So we're going for a drive today, hope that doesn't cause too many deaths--
Stay off the sidewalks and you should be okay... Posted by: Frodo, just FrodoB at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (gmSu9) 94
@jparkABC
Speaker Pelosi says she spoke to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin this morning about sending direct payments to qualifying Americans "technologically." Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (cF8AT) IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES!!!! Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1) 95
NY is really stepping out on becoming the Death State. They lead the pack with 354 today.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (dzyR5) ----- New Jersey... 'hold my beer'. Posted by: BluesFish at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (vnP3E) 96
The UK professor whose model was the source of this
panic has now walked it all back from 500K deaths in Britain to 20K, about half of whom would probably have died but the end of the year anyway. Whoopsie! https://tinyurl.com/qp55o8y Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM --- In other words, it's only killing people that were going to die soon anyways. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (JUOKG) 97
>>Yeah but that ain't big news !!!
This is all a result of restarting Project Casandra that Obama killed. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (ZLI7S) 98
Back from a brisk walk in my neighborhood before the temps get too high. Cars passed us at regular intervals, and a few people were out either walking or working on their cars in their driveways. No masks.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (rpbg1) 99
The same people telling us the world is going to end in less than 12 years from climate change/global warming are the same ones telling us millions will die from CV-19. So no, I don't believe them.
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (/5WQL) 100
i saw that dickwad reporter ask DJT how many deaths are acceptable.
The fact that DJT kept his cool and said "Not One" actually made me worry about his health. The proper response is '"What kind of question is that? What is wrong with you?' I would looove to know who asked that question. And that he loses his press pass. And a few teeth Posted by: vivi at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (11H2y) 101
All the doomsday predictions were if nobody did anything to fight the virus.and just kinda sat around watching everyone around them drop dead. It would be like predicting 100m will die in car crashes if nobody wears a seatbelt and everyone drives with their eyes closed doing 150mph on city streets. Sure technically a possibility but not a realistic outcome.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (P6ZCq) 102
we don't HAVE to have a totally random sample to figure out how over the top we're being right now, but it's definitely hair on fire sky is falling chicken fucking going on right now. Oh no no. We are soldiers fighting this War on ...something... together! Just like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor! The government totally knows what it is doing and is saving us from our stupid selves! Everyone shuttup and follow the rules! Yeah. Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (mw1Wz) 103
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Good morning Morning Monkey. So we're going for a drive today, hope that doesn't cause too many deaths Posted by: zeera at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (zUdXR) __________ So you're engaging in a an even higher-risk activity than killing people with the virus? What the hell is WRONG with you people! /a deplorable who drives 85,000 miles/year each year for work Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (WqPYg) 104
I don't know 'who's her?', but she has huge.......tracts of land.
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (88+cf) 105
go to such lengths as to quarantine people by force, close down their factories and cover up a disease that their doctors had discovered?
Posted by: BluesFish at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (vnP3E) Because it's not, because they didn't cover it up. But it is a bolder strain of flu, so more would have come down with it. And the more that get it (but didn't die) more glare on the Chinese. They tried to prevent the spread, not the deaths. For if it was the deaths, they would have done a better job of communicating. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (Ozpxd) 106
i note that nanzi asked for the next bill to include strengthening OSHA.
because there's s so many OSHA violations associated with getting a fucking virus... Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (8D42x) 107
If the Wuhan virus wasn't so deadly, why did the CCP, who don't mind
killing 20 million people for no good reason, who keep people in prison in order to harvest their organs.... go to such lengths as to quarantine people by force, close down their factories and cover up a disease that their doctors had discovered? Quarantining people is a good way to stop protests and make protestors disappear. Also.. there were videos out of China of people dropping dead on the streets. Why have we not seen videos like that from other countries? Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (ZCiJZ) 108
It spreads like wildfire and we've all already been exposed, so there should be more people dying or really ill, or
It doesn't spread very well at all, and we should be able to contain it. The other option is is DOES spread like wildfire, most people HAVE already been exposed, and many people are ALREADY immune b/c they already got over it back in December/January Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (j9HX3) 109
crap -- saved by the end-tag in the Name field
Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (WqPYg) 110
I'm not so sure it's innumeracy so much as wishcasting. In the end, I think it's another case of evil will oft evil mar. They took a serious, but manageable issue and labeled it an existential, possibly life-ending crisis, in order to bash Trump. He ran with it. The wildfire will inevitably die down, but the huge stimulus, plus exuberance from defeating this enemy (from which the real enemy told us there was no hope) will ignite the economy. Dow will be at 40k on election day.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (87EdW) 111
@ChadPergram 10 seconds ago
Pelosi says both bodies of Congress should work on the phase 4 coronavirus response. "Four corners," as she said. How 'bout we wait and see, mkay Nan? She's bound and determined to get her wish list in some damn bill! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (cF8AT) 112
But that won't sell newspapers and get clicks, and that won't get rid of
President Trump! And besides, from the significant amount of evidence provided over the past few years about the typical journalist's (and politician's) intellect, these basic concepts may be far beyond their intellectual capacities.====================================== The MSM and the Dems gave scaremongering their best shot. They went long during the period when no one had a clear understanding of the virulence of the COVD-19 virus. The wildest, most hysterical claims were made to justify the slanders and libels the Left hurled at the Administration. They frightened a lot of people. Now the dust is settling and there will be a reckoning. This being an election season - cuts both ways. Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (Pqytn) 113
If the Wuhan virus wasn't so deadly, why did the CCP, who don't mind killing 20 million people for no good reason, who keep people in prison in order to harvest their organs.... go to such lengths as to quarantine people by force, close down their factories and cover up a disease that their doctors had discovered?
Posted by: BluesFish at March 26, 2020 11:12 AM (vnP3E) Those Hong Kong protests ended pretty quickly, didn't they? Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (H3ZEL) 114
But that won't sell newspapers and get clicks, and that won't get rid of President Trump!
------ Rush pointed out years ago that the media clearly no longer care about selling papers or getting ratings. As a guy with actually great ratings that he has carefully cultivated, he knows whereof he speaks. Their numbers have been plummeting for years without anyone batting an eyelash, and with billionaires and CEOs like Carlos Slim and Jeff Bezos and Jeff Immelt constantly resuscitating their ambulatory corpses. They are Party organs, and they are whipping up the panic for reason #2, not reason #1. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (II2Y0) 115
would love to see a true demographic breakdown on deaths
I have a feeling that would answer BluesFish's question about China's bizarre response I think this is more deadly to the Chinese Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (j9HX3) Could be. But all communist regimes also go to extreme lengths to cover up anything potentially embarrassing. So COVID19 deaths over there could also include people given acute high-velocity lead injections to keep the numbers down or to keep them from talking, like that whistleblower doctor. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (NWiLs) Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (88+cf) 117
Also.. there were videos out of China of people
dropping dead on the streets. Why have we not seen videos like that from other countries? Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (ZCiJZ) did they cut away before the blood splotch appeared? Posted by: A dude in MI at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (/6GbT) 118
That is George and Weezy Jefferson. Different high rise
_______________ Yeah, I realized that after I wrote it, but I decided that not letting the welfare recipients Florida and James (didn't they kill him off, BTW?) move up too would be . . . raaaaaacist! Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (k4dH2) 119
99 The same people telling us the world is going to end in less than 12 years from climate change/global warming are the same ones telling us millions will die from CV-19. So no, I don't believe them.
---------------- Impeccable logic. I salute you. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (dzyR5) 120
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 26, 2020 11:04 AM (NWiLs)
We have been practicing self-isolation and social distancing since before it was cool. Posted by: Pete Polarek at March 26, 2020 11:17 AM (NTadV) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:17 AM (8fB/R) 122
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (ZLI7S)
**** was being facetious when I posted what the DOJ spokesperson tweeted out some of the usual suspects had to take their Illness to the next level Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:17 AM (i0Vo7) 123
Also.. there were videos out of China of people
dropping dead on the streets. Why have we not seen videos like that from other countries a lot of the videos I saw looked pretty fake I think it was agitprop Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 11:17 AM (j9HX3) 124
#92 for the win. It's hospital capacity - overwhelming which can give you your spiked fatality rates - that is the issue. They've kind of explained it many times.
And the panic is in the TP shopping. If there's panic in policy-making, it's not the journalists making the policies. Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (El6T/) 125
happy bday puddin'
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (0O7c5) 126
BREAKING: Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro charged with drug trafficking crimes in U.S. federal court - NYT
That was the Barr thing? Well, as long as it leads to others. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (f6lTY) 127
That is George and Weezy Jefferson. Different high rise
_______________ Yeah, I realized that after I wrote it, but I decided that not letting the welfare recipients Florida and James (didn't they kill him off, BTW?) move up too would be . . . raaaaaacist! Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 11:16 AM (k4dH2) ********* Methinks the Styleguide Says you need to condemn yerself Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (flINI) 128
104
I don't know 'who's her?', but she has huge.......tracts of land. Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM ---- Link? Posted by: TheHoser at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (IDjUx) 129
BTW, don't know if mentioned in earlier threads but Sundance over at CTH says at first glance it looked like the Congressional bailout bill includes considerable state budget deficit bailout -- similar to how Obamacare removed the healthcare pension liabilities from unions.
I remember some commenters here worrying that crap like this was likely going to happen ... smart crowd. Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (WqPYg) Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S) 131
100 i saw that dickwad reporter ask DJT how many deaths are acceptable.
The fact that DJT kept his cool and said "Not One" actually made me worry about his health. The proper response is '"What kind of question is that? What is wrong with you?' I would looove to know who asked that question. And that he loses his press pass. And a few teeth Posted by: vivi at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (11H2y) For those that missed this: @realDailyWire Reporter: "How many deaths are acceptable?" @realDonaldTrump: "How many deaths are acceptable to me? None." Video: https://tinyurl.com/vrt2ers Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:19 AM (cF8AT) 132
131 $15 million bounty on Maduro.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S) On it! Posted by: Duane "Dog" Chapman at March 26, 2020 11:19 AM (NWiLs) Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2020 11:19 AM (88+cf) 134
It spreads like wildfire and we've all already been exposed, so there should be more people dying or really ill, or
It doesn't spread very well at all, and we should be able to contain it. The other option is is DOES spread like wildfire, most people HAVE already been exposed, and many people are ALREADY immune b/c they already got over it back in December/January Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM --- This is what I think happened. No way was this thing not in the US way before January. We are just started finding cases now because we started testing people for this specific strain of the corona virus. We were not testing anyone before the end of January because we didn't have the tests yet and we didn't know what was going on. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG) 135
Sean Davis @seanmdav
Are we ever going to get charges against senior officials of our own government who cooked up an illegal spy campaign to oust the American president, or nah? good luck Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:20 AM (8fB/R) 136
In 1990, there were 2,605 murders in NYC. As of this moment, there are 366 Chinese flu deaths.
366. Oh, the humanity! /sarc Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:20 AM (ZCiJZ) Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:20 AM (JFO2v) 138
31 The UK professor whose model was the source of this panic has now walked it all back from 500K deaths in Britain to 20K, about half of whom would probably have died but the end of the year anyway. Whoopsie!
https://tinyurl.com/qp55o8y Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (H3ZEL) I'm confused as to how this became a world wide panic. Thinking it was collusion between Xi and the World Health Organization lighting the match then this UK model throwing gas on the fire. Then the media became orgasmic. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (ZQR/T) 139
Chinese people smoke like chimneys and live in a cloud of pollution in big dirty cities. Hmmm I wonder if that helps or hurts their lungs fight a virus?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (P6ZCq) 140
"We can absorb some more terrorist attacks"
-President O'Shit-"Everything They Claim Trump Is"-Stain Posted by: ... at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (q53z0) 141
Seriously? These are the people who think 500 million divided by 350 million equals a million.
Posted by: Haley's Buttery Biscuit at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (1llau) Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (JcrKi) 143
$15 million bounty on Maduro.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S) If they offered it in toilet paper he'd be dead by now Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (eAYgc) 144
the malaria med cocktail seems to be working
I think Trump can safely call off the staypocalypse soon Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (G546f) 145
121 James Taylor and his wife donate $1M to Boston hospital
where he was born I know, I know. ------------------ The Taylor family is from eastern NC. No relation to Sheriif Andy Taylor - which is western NC. My mother dated his father while both were in college. My mother said he was nice but the family had some problems with mental stability over the years. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (dzyR5) 146
Just indicted the Chief Justice of the Venezuelan Supreme Court with international money laundering.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (ZLI7S) 147
A friend of mine went to one of the best hospitals in Toronto a couple days ago for treatment for something unrelated to COVID-19. He has an N95 mask and came plenty early. He said there were no extra crowds and none of the nurses were wearing masks. When he asked whether he should be wearing his, he was told, "No, not really."
Posted by: TheHoser at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (IDjUx) 148
peak stupid
I need a rotate and balance and see all the empty bays at my local Discount Tire store. Pull in and see at least six employees doing nothing. A guy runs out and axed me "Can I help you sir?" "Yeah, I need a rotate and balance" "No sir, we're only performing essential services. Tires sales and fixing flats only." No work being done but they are triaging at a tire store. Posted by: DanMan at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (XTiHL) 149
94 @jparkABC
Speaker Pelosi says she spoke to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin this morning about sending direct payments to qualifying Americans "technologically." Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:13 AM (cF8AT) IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES!!!! Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1) --------------------------------- She probably does think that. Expects the checks to go out via vacuum tube, like they use at banks. Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (CAJOC) 150
NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) 151
Curious - is there anywhere that has fatality numbers that include 2+ other conditions? Isn't that what makes Italy's numbers so high? Could it be the same for NY?
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (9IkUJ) 152
Really wish a teenage girl from Kansas would rush up to Nanzi and throw a bucket of water on her.
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (ZCEU2) 153
But that won't sell newspapers and get clicks, and that won't get rid of President Trump!
--- Or justify the funding of CDC deep staters. Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (kOpft) 154
142>> And cruise ship passengers tend to skew towards the elderly.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (+0AKE) 155
Diamond Princess
680 tested positive. 8 died. Or 1.2%. Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (JcrKi) Math is a tool of the Cis-White-Patriarchy ... Posted by: Adriane the Why I Do Declare Critic ... at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (LPnfS) 156
the malaria med cocktail seems to be working
I think Trump can safely call off the staypocalypse soon Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (G546f) We have that! Posted by: Lace Wigs and Fishtank Cleaner at March 26, 2020 11:23 AM (88+cf) 157
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop."
O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) ------------ Birx is giving out good information. This must stop, obviously. Posted by: jhawk90 at March 26, 2020 11:23 AM (9IkUJ) 158
A friend of mine went to one of the best hospitals
in Toronto a couple days ago for treatment for something unrelated to COVID-19. He has an N95 mask and came plenty early. He said there were no extra crowds and none of the nurses were wearing masks. When he asked whether he should be wearing his, he was told, "No, not really." Posted by: TheHoser at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM --- But I have to step 6 foot away from the self check out terminal at Home Depot so the clerk can give me my military discount. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 11:23 AM (JUOKG) 159
Clay Travis @ClayTravis
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:23 AM (8fB/R) 160
150 NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) ========== "I am president of the United States..." *cut* "We have determined that the Trump just lied. He is not the legitimate president, Hillary Clinton is. We'll have the rest of his briefing to you later after we slice and dice it a bit." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:24 AM (UWqZJ) 161
DanMan, that's funny (and pathetic).
Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:24 AM (El6T/) 162
She probably does think that. Expects the checks to go out via vacuum tube, like they use at banks.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (CAJOC) ================== WHOOSH ... I'm rich! Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:24 AM (Pqytn) 163
Isn't that what makes Italy's numbers so high? Could it be the same for NY?
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (9IkUJ) I'll bet that Italy's numbers are skewed because they are counting pretty much every death as a Sino-Lung-Rot death. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2020 11:24 AM (dLLD6) 164
$15 million bounty on Maduro.
I would not want to be him right now, if he's anywhere in Venezuela. Wouldn't even be able to trust your own guards. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:24 AM (elfAG) 165
I just read a headline Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day and Morgues are Near Capacity.
I dug the article up, and the 13 deaths were just at the Elmhurst Hospital in Queens alone. It's a mistake to say that extra 13 is all there is in the New York Metropolitan area... Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at March 26, 2020 11:24 AM (7s3Gx) 166
really crazy
Alex Berenson @AlexBerenson 2/ He now says both that the U.K. should have enough ICU beds and that the coronavirus will probably kill under 20,000 people in the U.K. - more than 1/2 of whom would have died by the end of the year in any case bc they were so old and sick. ppl in cya mode Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (8fB/R) 167
some shit for brains on fox just said "13 dead at this one hospital in Queens, NYC. that should be a flashing red light that this is getting bad and out of control"...
what's the normal daily body count there? I swear the media's goal is, keep everyone in a panic period... Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (8D42x) 168
Wonder how much pornhub's traffic has increased with everyone "working from home"?
Posted by: brak at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (cG+eD) 169
159 Clay Travis @ClayTravis
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:23 AM (8fB/R) ======== Damage done. We're gonna be in this nonsense cycle for weeks more at least. In a just world, he'd never have another job other than making license plates in a prison. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (UWqZJ) 170
166 really crazy
Alex Berenson @AlexBerenson 2/ He now says both that the U.K. should have enough ICU beds and that the coronavirus will probably kill under 20,000 people in the U.K. - more than 1/2 of whom would have died by the end of the year in any case bc they were so old and sick. ppl in cya mode Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (8fB/R) ========== This ain't lasting to summer. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (UWqZJ) Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (JcrKi) 172
The media is only reporting on New York Corona. It's exhausting. Fox as well as all of the others. They are basically useless to the rest of the Country as far as information goes.
Posted by: StellasTwoCents at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (KSBDE) 173
137 Harris County
119 confirm 1 dead He was 86. did that come from the report that had the testing at only 25% positive? Posted by: DanMan at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (XTiHL) 174
I'll bet that Italy's numbers are skewed because they are counting pretty much every death as a Sino-Lung-Rot death.
Including Billy Batts ! Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (arJlL) 175
130 $15 million bounty on Maduro.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S) ----------------------------------- That's a lot of paper towels! Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (CAJOC) Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (EuPI/) 177
172 The media is only reporting on New York Corona. It's exhausting. Fox as well as all of the others. They are basically useless to the rest of the Country as far as information goes.
Posted by: StellasTwoCents at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (KSBDE) =========== You've seen that New Yorker cover, right? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (UWqZJ) 178
Alex Berenson @AlexBerenson
2/ He now says both that the U.K. should have enough ICU beds and that the coronavirus will probably kill under 20,000 people in the U.K. - more than 1/2 of whom would have died by the end of the year in any case bc they were so old and sick. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (8fB/R) 179
BREAKING: Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro charged with drug trafficking crimes in U.S. federal court - NYT
That was the Barr thing? Well, as long as it leads to others. Posted by: t-bird ====================== Is that an excuse to do like we did with Manuel Noriega? Posted by: Guzalot at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (Rz36l) 180
He said there were no extra crowds and none of the nurses were wearing
masks. When he asked whether he should be wearing his, he was told, "No, not really." There have been reports in the crazysphere that hospitals are no busier than usual, and that many ERs are actually kind of empty. Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (ZCiJZ) 181
Question: If this is such a crisis that such unprecedented measures as depriving people of such basic rights as leaving the house, why can't we also lock up journalists for 50 or 60 years, you know, to be on the safe side?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (+y/Ru) 182
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop."
Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) In other words, at the first "question" from the press. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (H3ZEL) 183
"Essentially, what has happened is that estimates of the viruses
transmissibility have increased - which implies that many more people have already gotten it than we realize - which in turn implies it is less dangerous." Math, how does it work again? They knew this was a bull$hit study from the start and wanted people to panic. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (JUOKG) 184
The Taylor family is from eastern NC. No relation to Sheriif Andy Taylor - which is western NC. My mother dated his father while both were in college. My mother said he was nice but the family had some problems with mental stability over the years.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (dzyR5) Like needing electroshock therapy? Good call imo. Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (y7DUB) Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (JcrKi) 186
CASES - 491,693
DEATHS - 22,169 Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:17 AM (mpXpK) _________ Since unknown cases (unaware of having or unreported) are ALWAYS more in these types of pandemics than actual known cases, that should actually read: UNKNOWN CASES - greater than (2 x 491,693) = 983,386 KNOWN CASES - 491,693 DEATHS - 22,169 Posted by: ShainS at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (WqPYg) 187
130 $15 million bounty on Maduro.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S) ----------------------------------- That's a lot of paper towels! Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (CAJOC) ============================ $15,000,000? How much is that in TP rolls? Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (Pqytn) 188
AZ has 470 with the virus, but it's been showing only 8 in the hospital for the past three days. If these numbers are accurate, it doesn't look like it's getting any worse here. More people are being tested and we're getting more positives, but they don't seem to be sick enough to need hospitalization, which is obviously good. We've had kind of a cool spring here so far, but temps are going up into high 80's next week (in the desert regions), so hopefully that will help keep transmission down to manageable levels.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (k4dH2) 189
183 Math, how does it work again?
They knew this was a bull$hit study from the start and wanted people to panic. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (JUOKG) ======== This assumes that journalists and politicians understand math and statistics. I question this premise. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (UWqZJ) 190
Clay Travis @ClayTravis
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:23 AM (8fB/R) Only a difference of 480 thousand. No need for the MFM to report that Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (eAYgc) 191
happy birthday Puddin Head!
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (G546f) Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (arJlL) 193
WOW!
Chloroquine has antiviral effects. It increases late endosomal and lysosomal pH, resulting in impaired release of the virus from the endosome or lysosome release of the virus requires a low pH. The virus is therefore unable to release its genetic material into the cell and replicate. Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (JFO2v) 194
They are basically going after the senior leadership in Maduro's corrupt regime including the military and judicial branch.
This would be huge news during normal times. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (ZLI7S) 195
I'll bet that Italy's numbers are skewed because they are counting pretty much every death as a Sino-Lung-Rot death.
Including Billy Batts ! Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (arJlL) true sad to read a nurse committed suicide in Italy after contracting the virus - she felt guilty that she may have exposed and killed so many others ugh emotionally exhausted, very sad Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (8fB/R) 196
If the Wuhan virus wasn't so deadly, why did the CCP, who don't mind
killing 20 million people for no good reason, who keep people in prison in order to harvest their organs.... go to such lengths as to quarantine people by force, close down their factories and cover up a disease that their doctors had discovered? --- Probably because they were operating under the assumption that it was a disease their doctors had created. Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (kOpft) 197
Thanks so much for this post. It almost (almost) makes me think that reason is not completely dead and relief is possible from the unrelenting 24/7 hysteria and hand-wringing. On the other hand, time is likely to make this all go away, and fairly soon, because of the survivability characteristics of such viruses, which make them seasonable.
Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (QE8X6) 198
Ex-wife was asking why we're so far behind the world in testing. I really don't know. I spot checked some data.
I checked and Quest is up to 25,000/day, they and a couple of other labs are promising to get up to 300,000/week. Germany, pop. 90 mm, is at 400,000 tests/week. What up? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (c4UJn) 199
$15,000,000? How much is that in TP rolls?
Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (Pqytn) a 24 pack Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (JFO2v) 200
Housing and feeding Maduro? Fuck that shit. Eliminate.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (f7Img) 201
Likely there are aspects to the susceptibility/resistance factors of this here virus that would not reflect negatively on the right people. Like whatsisname would say "think victim status".
Posted by: klaftern at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (RuIsu) 202
I bought an under desk bike and am churning away while typing these..maybe I'll get skinny legs at when the lockdown is finally over.
Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (a0IVu) 203
We have our own models.
Posted by: runner at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (zr5Kq) 204
I just read a headline Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day and Morgues are Near Capacity.
- OMG! That's like a Chicago three day weekend every day! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (+y/Ru) 205
$15 million bounty on Maduro.
I would not want to be him right now, if he's anywhere in Venezuela. Wouldn't even be able to trust your own guards. Posted by: t-bird --- Which is why PDT brought his own people in when he was elected. The SS is a professional org and all but . . . . Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (Y4EXg) Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (JcrKi) 207
Like needing electroshock therapy? Good call imo.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (y7DUB) My aunt thought she was St. Jerome... Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (gmo/4) 208
Just like impeachment, the President is going to wear this Democratic-created-fiasco like a badge of honor. The Dems just don't get it. Pray for the man. Best President in my lifetime!
Posted by: adamcda13 at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (r21BT) 209
8 more days
Posted by: chupa cabron at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (cJE6b) 210
"But that won't sell newspapers and get clicks, and that won't get rid of President Trump!"
Exactly! This is what I have been saying all along. And it pretty much applies to EVERY SINGLE THING that has occurred since January 20, 2017 Posted by: doof2112 at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (mZUr4) 211
NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) If NBC and CNN were going to cut away at the first lie on their stations they should just go off the air now Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (eAYgc) 212
NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." name one lie they can't, they just keep saying it without facts Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (8fB/R) 213
150 NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) Viewership at White House channel, YouTube, CSPAN, and Fox increases. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (ZQR/T) 214
198 Ex-wife was asking why we're so far behind the world in testing. I really don't know. I spot checked some data.
I checked and Quest is up to 25,000/day, they and a couple of other labs are promising to get up to 300,000/week. Germany, pop. 90 mm, is at 400,000 tests/week. What up? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (c4UJn) Obamacare and CDC rules require all new test to come through their system. None of the 5000 labs around the specialize in viruses (ED, Uni, research) were allowed to work on this until about 2 and half weeks ago. Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JFO2v) 215
Kind of enjoying my new superpower 6 foot force field.
Never been a touchy feely kind of guy anyway. Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (ZCEU2) 216
I bought an under desk bike and am churning away while typing these..maybe I'll get skinny legs at when the lockdown is finally over.
Posted by: IC You're an 'Ette no matter what your leg size is ! Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (arJlL) 217
After Easter, when your betters tell you #twoweeks again, then the SHTF, at least it should.
Posted by: Fortcoins at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JbL9Q) Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JcrKi) 219
214 Obamacare and CDC rules require all new test to come through their system. None of the 5000 labs around the specialize in viruses (ED, Uni, research) were allowed to work on this until about 2 and half weeks ago.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JFO2v) =========== It's Trump's fault that he didn't act like a dictator and suspend all regulations that got between him and his goal. Now, I shall apply that logic to things like guns. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:31 AM (UWqZJ) 220
This flu season alone has sickened at least 19 million across the U.S. and led to 10,000 deaths and 180,000 hospitalizations.
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at March 26, 2020 11:31 AM (P4Pk9) 221
There needs to be a reckoning where we get a high death rate after this scamademic is shown to be scam it always was.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:31 AM (pw+jk) 222
The media is only reporting on New York Corona. It's exhausting. Fox as well as all of the others. They are basically useless to the rest of the Country as far as information goes.
Posted by: StellasTwoCents at March 26, 2020 11:25 AM (KSBDE) Par for the course. Something slightly challenging happens in NYC, it's national news for days. Same thing happens in BFE, you're lucky to hear about it. Because they're all headquartered in NYC and nowhere else matters. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (H3ZEL) 223
You're an 'Ette no matter what your leg size is !
Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (arJlL) smooches Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (a0IVu) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (+y/Ru) 225
There have been reports in the crazysphere that
hospitals are no busier than usual, and that many ERs are actually kind of empty. Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (ZCiJZ) Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today? Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) 226
Here is a YouTube video dedicated to the Mayor of New York.
Little Tin Box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrJMnONes2w Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (EMi53) 227
There needs to be a reckoning where we get a high death rate after this scamademic is shown to be scam it always was.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:31 AM (pw+jk) They'll claim that if they didn't shutdown the economy and lock us in our homes we'd all be dead. Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (eAYgc) 228
Our fish wrap, which promised a few weeks ago to print nothing but "positive news," failed again today. They're using USA Today's Health Info pages, and today printed an op-ed by Barry's CDC head, bragging about how well they handled Ebola and H1N1 under his direction, and whining that Trump isn't seeking guidance from them now, and is doing a less-than-favorable job for the American people.
Hate. In other news, I self-tanned for the first time this year, and gave myself a pedicure with some cheerful coral toenail polish. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (ptqGC) 229
After Easter, when your betters tell you #twoweeks again, then the SHTF, at least it should.
Posted by: Fortcoins at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JbL9Q) ******* Our ancestors would have been shooting by now. Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (flINI) Posted by: The guy that always says destroy the media at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (pJTcu) 231
what is the update on treatments or vaccine? press has a complete embargo on this; it's all zomg people are dying on the streets of NY!
Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (a0IVu) 232
Man, I'm sure that the 3 million plus who applied for unemployment benefits are going to be thrilled with the Democratic governors and mayors who forced them to stop making money because of a disease that will affect the US as much as the flu.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (UWqZJ) 233
Chloroquine has antiviral effects. It increases late endosomal and lysosomal pH, resulting in impaired release of the virus from the endosome or lysosome release of the virus requires a low pH. The virus is therefore unable to release its genetic material into the cell and replicate. Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (JFO2v) That's what I've been trying to tell these people. Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (mrrpT) 234
A 1,000 sample truly random set is going to give you better data than 50,000 sample from retirement homes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Problem is, whose definition of better? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who is a democrat at this point is an enemy of our free country. Maybe we normals should be the ones setting up the "education" centers a la Red Dawn. This deliberate hysteria goes way beyond clickbait whoring. The effin dems will excoriate Trump before, during, and after anything he does, irrespective of the collateral damage. We cannot peaceably coexist with lying evil bent on our destruction. Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (EuPI/) 235
If the Wuhan virus wasn't so deadly, why did the CCP, who don't mind
killing 20 million people for no good reason, who keep people in prison in order to harvest their organs.... go to such lengths as to quarantine people by force, close down their factories and cover up a disease that their doctors had discovered? --- Probably because they were operating under the assumption that it was a disease their doctors had created. Posted by: Methos At the time, the theory that it escaped from their level 4 bio lab facility was legit. If Wuhan didn't have a level 4 facility, it would have never grown legs. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (Vddbf) 236
In other news, I self-tanned for the first time this year, and gave myself a pedicure with some cheerful coral toenail polish.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (ptqGC) I'm worried I might have to color my own hair. the horror. Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (a0IVu) 237
How can CNN justify NOT airing Trump's pressers? If this flu is as bad as they've been telling us, they would be derelict in their duty.....
Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (CqE5x) 238
Trump should retool Obama's Jobs Saved Metric and start pumping out Lives Saved numbers.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (dzyR5) 239
Extremely willowed
- I heard that the bill excludes Trump hotels from getting any bailout money is that true? Yes. - Can you imagine how great Trump will look when Bloomberg and other m/billionaire Democrats are demanding money from taxpayers while he is helping his workers after being specifically named in the bill? Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (41rs/) Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL) 241
One MILLION dollars!
Posted by: Bloomberg Conundrum at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (2Mnv1) 242
There have been reports in the crazysphere that hospitals are no busier than usual, and that many ERs are actually kind of empty. Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (ZCiJZ) We've got seven cases in our large county, and one person hospitalized in one of our three main, very large, hospitals. Everyone else is quarantined at home. My husband is still on for his second cataract surgery next week. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (ptqGC) 243
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) ============================== The word I'm getting from nurses working in one of the largest state hospitals in NC is that the staff working in wards built primarily for elective surgery procedures are listening to crickets. No patients. Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (Pqytn) 244
Chloroquine has antiviral effects. It increases late endosomal and lysosomal pH, resulting in impaired release of the virus from the endosome or lysosome release of the virus requires a low pH. The virus is therefore unable to release its genetic material into the cell and replicate.
Does this excite anyone else? It almost sounds like a generally applicable thing. Now we just have to make sure that the Chinese never feed this stuff to their birds, and swine, and bats, and pangolins. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (elfAG) 245
TMJ, those people will really hate their governors when Trump turns up the heat for doing the opposite of what the WH was advocating.
Oh wait. Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (El6T/) 246
I saw a thing where a study was speculating that the NLR (Neutrophil to Lymphocyte Ratio) might correlate to severity of China Virus symptoms.
The NLR is a marker for subclinical inflammation that is used by oncologists to predict outcomes in certain cancers, and I think also in certain cardiovascular diseases. Not enuf data though Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (G546f) 247
Is Brian Stetler Jeff Zucker's Mini Me?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (dzyR5) 248
NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." name one lie they can't, they just keep saying it without facts Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM (8fB/R Yesterday, after that ridiculous ( are you advocating opening up the country too early because you are worried about the November election) question and Trump told her she writes fake news along with another journalist he pointed at, they've got their panties in a wad. So the other channels will carry it. OANN doesn't cut away until the press conference is completed. Fox cut away yesterday when it was turned over to Pence. Posted by: Jen the original at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (/qO+U) 249
There have been reports in the crazysphere that hospitals are no busier than usual, and that many ERs are actually kind of empty.
Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (ZCiJZ) --------- Can confirm - son worked blood bank bench last night and only ran one...whatever thing it is. Said there was a lot of streaming, gaming and car shopping going on there among the crew. Posted by: jhawk90 at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (9IkUJ) 250
I heard that the bill excludes Trump hotels from getting any bailout money is that true?
Yes. Yes, HOWEVER it also excludes any and all ADMIN officials and all Congress Critters Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (nRk/c) 251
I self-tanned for the first time this year,
You usually get other people to tan for you? Go sit in the sun, Suzy, and bring me your tan? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:36 AM (c4UJn) 252
You're an 'Ette no matter what your leg size is !
Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (arJlL) smooches Posted by: IC Thank You ! Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:36 AM (arJlL) 253
of course
Ari Fleischer @AriFleischer Trump's job approval hits the highest level of his presidency. It's no coincidence that many resistance reporters want to take his Coronavirus briefings off the air. That is what this has always been about. There are no lies, just great leadership. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:36 AM (8fB/R) 254
At this rate, 2521 years from now all of NYC will be deceased. Year 4500.
Oh, wait. Never mind. Posted by: klaftern at March 26, 2020 11:36 AM (RuIsu) Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (ZCEU2) 256
Trump should retool Obama's Jobs Saved Metric and start pumping out Lives Saved numbers.
Huh, use their idiot projections against them. He'll save twenty million lives in California alone. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (elfAG) 257
Regarding testing. I"ve heard numerous MSM reports that China sent Italy and the Czech Republic thousands of test kits because their so benevolent.
They have an 80% fail rate. Posted by: Jen the original at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (/qO+U) 258
'ettes survival:
In other news, I self-tanned for the first time this year, and gave myself a pedicure with some cheerful coral toenail polish. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (ptqGC) I'm worried I might have to color my own hair. the horror. Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (a0IVu) 'rons survival: Need meat and Booze. LOL Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (gmo/4) 259
The relief package was "historic". Mitch called it that. Huh.
When was the last time that word was used for a positive, intelligent, or good thing? Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (El6T/) 260
Ex-wife was asking why we're so far behind the world in testing. I really don't know. I spot checked some data.
I checked and Quest is up to 25,000/day, they and a couple of other labs are promising to get up to 300,000/week. Germany, pop. 90 mm, is at 400,000 tests/week. What up? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM (c4UJn) Obamacare and CDC rules require all new test to come through their system. None of the 5000 labs around the specialize in viruses (ED, Uni, research) were allowed to work on this until about 2 and half weeks ago. Posted by: rhennigantx My own anecdotal information. I was tested last Thursday, as soon as tests were available in my area, and won't have the results back until Friday. (LabCorp, through a physicians office) Meanwhile, I don't go anywhere as an offering to my fellow man. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (FTlwv) 261
Someone mentioned demographic breakdowns on the Chinese flu virus cases and deaths, and this info is hard to come by. I think the Chinese community has been hard-hit, but also the Orthodox Jewish community. Lakewood in NJ has the most cases of any town in the state and there is a large Orthodox community there.
I would like to know if this virus is clustered in certain families. That would explain a lot. Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (CqE5x) 262
I was told not to release my genetic material in public.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (+0AKE) 263
I self-tanned for the first time this year,
You usually get other people to tan for you? Go sit in the sun, Suzy, and bring me your tan? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:36 AM (c4UJn) ******** Indulgent and luxurious Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (flINI) 264
>>Prediction: Nancy Pelosi will die on a National Holiday.
Skeptic: How can you be so sure? Do you know for a fact when she'll die? Memorial Day, Independence Day, which? Prediction: Doesn't matter. The day she dies, ANY day she dies, will be declared a National Holiday! Cheers! - - - [types] [deletes] This is not a topic in which I can stay inside the AoSHQ commenting guidelines. . . Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (bDqIh) 265
239 Extremely willowed
- I heard that the bill excludes Trump hotels from getting any bailout money is that true? Yes. - Can you imagine how great Trump will look when Bloomberg and other m/billionaire Democrats are demanding money from taxpayers while he is helping his workers after being specifically named in the bill? Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (41rs/) Isn't that a Bill of Attainder? Punishing one person or group via law? Now, if they had said NO Company owned by any major Government Official could get funds, that I would have applauded. but you know damn well Pelosi's Hubbies companies get bailout money. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (NgKpN) 266
I'm worried I might have to color my own hair. the horror.
Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (a0IVu) Our salons haven't been ordered closed. I'm still getting re-blonded in two weeks, unless things change. Husband is working out of home today, and had a very positive conversation with a small business advisor this morning. He said if Kemp allows the mayors in GA to re-open businesses after the quarantine period as they see fit, things will get better here rapidly. He also said, "All those grey-haired liberal white women who helped get our mayor elected, and begged him to close the city down, need to keep their damned mouths shut." Husband just left to meet with a client. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (ptqGC) 267
@marcorubio
Today @NicolasMaduro will be indicted by the @TheJusticeDept & charged with narco-terrorism Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (ZLI7S) Boy, I'll bet that's got Muller and Hillary and Comey shaking in their shoes. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (2JVJo) 268
what about a test for kathy? kathy neeeeeeeddddddssssssss a test!!!! but pence won't let her have one
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (0O7c5) 269
Pelosi is 80 years old today. old bat.
Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (a0IVu) Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (EuPI/) 271
Happy Birthday, Pudding Head. I'm four days behind you. Per rickl, (and don't jump on me, CBD) "Life is good."
Posted by: creeper at March 26, 2020 11:38 AM (XxJt1) 272
Diamond Princess
680 tested positive. 8 died. Or 1.2%. Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:21 AM (JcrKi) === In an encapsulated tube more or less. It was all a scamdemic from the get go. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (pw+jk) 273
you know what though, I hope this does get ppl to treat spreading the flu more seriously
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (G546f) 274
Well after this Wuhan is gone or beat it will be time to move on the next if it only saves just 1 life
Abortion Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (ZCEU2) 275
it's all zomg people are dying on the streets of NY!
Posted by: IC That's just from the shootings ! Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (arJlL) 276
I heard that the bill excludes Trump hotels from getting any bailout money is that true?
Yes. Yes, HOWEVER it also excludes any and all ADMIN officials and all Congress Critters Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (nRk/c) That is utter bullshit. So what about any other business that the congress critters have some stake in, via their retirement plans or stocks? Posted by: Jen the original at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (/qO+U) 277
Pangolins can get as big as 73 pounds. That's a lot of Aardvark.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (dzyR5) 278
273 you know what though, I hope this does get ppl to treat spreading the flu more seriously
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (G546f) ========== I'm gonna spread it so hard. Her immunity! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (UWqZJ) 279
herd* not her
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (UWqZJ) 280
Today
@NicolasMaduro will be indicted by the @TheJusticeDept & charged with narco-terrorism Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (ZLI7S) whoopteedooo. Well, that's nice and all that, but so what? Is the US going to send in an expeditionary force to arrest him? Of course not. The one good outcome I can see from this is that it gives us a legal basis to shut down all trade from Venezuela, meaning the little remaining oil trade they have left. That might be enough to finally kill whatever remaining bits of economic activity they have left. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (trdmm) 281
just read a headline Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day
- No joke: 500 people die in NYC every day. Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (41rs/) 282
This is a trial run by all the tyrants testing their ability to herd their masses. They appear to have an easy go at it.
There will be a lessons learned seminar at next years Davos. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (ZQR/T) 283
>>Boy, I'll bet that's got Muller and Hillary and Comey shaking in their shoes.
These cases have been under investigation and being built for as long as 10 years according to Barr and team today. Justice does not run on movie time. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ZLI7S) Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (G546f) 285
You usually get other people to tan for you? Go sit in the sun, Suzy, and bring me your tan?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:36 AM (c4UJn) Self-tanning: Spray tanning foam on mitt, spread all over body. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ptqGC) 286
>>just read a headline Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day
Was it a successful drive-by shooting? Posted by: Roy at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (ABjxW) 287
At the time, the theory that it escaped from their level 4 bio lab facility was legit. If Wuhan didn't have a level 4 facility, it would have never grown legs.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (Vddbf) There have also been unconfirmed stories going around of bad practices at that lab in the past, particularly with respect to improper disposal techniques and stolen test animals. It may well be that the ChiComs thought that something horrific had escaped. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (H3ZEL) 288
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
the elective surgery hospitals have anesthesiologists that use ventilators if needed, by scotching elective surgeries they are freeing ventilators and the people that know how to use them is what I was told Posted by: DanMan at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (XTiHL) 289
I think Gov. Roy Cooper should consider allowing hospital administrators to use their own best judgement on whether or not to allow elective surgery procedures in their hospitals.
Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (Pqytn) 290
Judicial Watch @JudicialWatch
Ukrainian authorities have launched a criminal investigation into an HIV nonprofit that receives huge sums of money from the U.S. government as well as leftwing billionaire George Soros Choke this guy off of any money. None. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (8fB/R) 291
232 Man, I'm sure that the 3 million plus who applied for unemployment benefits are going to be thrilled with the Democratic governors and mayors who forced them to stop making money because of a disease that will affect the US as much as the flu.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (UWqZJ) Excactly. Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (QE8X6) 292
Take that UK professor and jail him.
Posted by: Ha at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (fNWtj) Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (arJlL) 294
I heard that the bill excludes Trump hotels from getting any bailout money is that true?
Yes. Yes, HOWEVER it also excludes any and all ADMIN officials and all Congress Critters Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (nRk/c) It also includes their spouses, kids, and sons and daughters in law. Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (nRNOc) 295
Ya know what would be cool? If all these governors shutting businesses down and throwing people out of work would cut their own pay, and that of their staffes, to zero for the duration.
All sales taxes not to be sent to the gubmint for the next X months, instead to be retained by the businesses to mitigate the damage incurred. Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (d6mdH) 296
Dow up over 22,375
Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (gmo/4) 297
New York has been hard-hit and one reason is they were slow to close schools and the subway. Also, Cuomo has been more interested in pushing abortion and releasing cop killers early than preparing his state for a pandemic--including refusing to buy ventilators when he had the chance.
Given all this, why is he suddenly touted as a presidential candidate? Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (CqE5x) 298
That is utter bullshit. So what about any other business that the congress critters have some stake in, via their retirement plans or stocks?
Posted by: Jen the original at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (/qO+U) It almost sounds like you're suggesting that there might be some pretty big loopholes written into the law. Shame, shame, for even thinking such a thing of our Noble Leaders! Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (trdmm) 299
231 what is the update on treatments or vaccine? press has a complete embargo on this; it's all zomg people are dying on the streets of NY!
_____________ There was an article yesterday about some drug for rheumatoid arthritis (an anti-inflammatory) that the Chinese have been using with some success. It's called Actemra. Anyway, the Chinese used it on 20 critically ill virus patients, and reported that 19 of the 20 were cured within a week. The FDA has cleared drug manufacturers to start trials of it in the U.S. for use on the virus. So there are things happening. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (k4dH2) 300
>>The one good outcome I can see from this is that it gives us a legal basis to shut down all trade from Venezuela, meaning the little remaining oil trade they have left. That might be enough to finally kill whatever remaining bits of economic activity they have left.
The press conference, which is still going on, is laying out what steps are being taken. This is obviously a restart of Operation Casandra. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (ZLI7S) 301
Isn't that a Bill of Attainder? Punishing one person or group via law?
Now, if they had said NO Company owned by any major Government Official could get funds, that I would have applauded. - Other posters were saying it covered everyone in Congress, but Trump wanted his name mentioned specifically. That's my dumbass president clearly being a dumbass while all the Smart People make fun of him. Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (41rs/) 302
NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) Oddly enough, I have pretty much that same policy towards watching/reading/hearing self-appointed "news" sources. Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (NiXyF) 303
Uncle Sugar throwing in $600 a week unemployment benefits for four months ... 3.2 million claims *before* this enticement. ooboy.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (TXOkZ) 304
That is utter bullshit. So what about any other business that the congress critters have some stake in, via their retirement plans or stocks? Posted by: Jen the original at March 26, 2020 11:39 AM (/qO+U) Doesn't Piglosi own some hotels and vineyards? Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (ptqGC) 305
FDA Finally changed the rules on making masks how you can make masks what materials you can use and waved testing on these materials.
A guy had a some really good tweets about it, it would have taken a year and mountains of paper work. Those face Sheilds that the Hockey and Lacrosse companies are making they would need a trail of use of about a year, then are the materials allergic to anyone etc etc. All waved Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (dKiJG) 306
Son and wife are expecting. Baby is due May 31st. His MIL is an ER nurse in Cali.
She was scheduled to be here for the baby's birth but the hospital she works at just cancelled all vacations for April AND May. DIL is freaking out.... Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (cF8AT) 307
271 Happy Birthday, Pudding Head. I'm four days behind you. Per rickl, (and don't jump on me, CBD) "Life is good."
----------------------- We Ares folks are special. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (dzyR5) 308
287 At the time, the theory that it escaped from their level 4 bio lab facility was legit. If Wuhan didn't have a level 4 facility, it would have never grown legs.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (Vddbf) There have also been unconfirmed stories going around of bad practices at that lab in the past, particularly with respect to improper disposal techniques and stolen test animals. It may well be that the ChiComs thought that something horrific had escaped. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (H3ZEL) ============ By the way, this is exactly how things started out in the movie Contagion. Bats from a lab. I love the movie, but I have to imagine that it contributed to the panic. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (UWqZJ) 309
@realDonaldTrump 6 minutes ago
I will be doing a News Conference live from the @WhiteHouse at 5:00 P.M. (Eastern) to discuss the mtg of the G20 Leaders that took place this morning at 7:55 A.M. by World Teleconference. Also, my 12:00 P.M. Teleconference call w/50 Governors, plus Territories, will be discussed. Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (cF8AT) 310
Wonder if the outrageous attack on freedom (in the "historic" relief bill) requiring businesses accepting $ to remain neutral on unionization efforts can be nuked on constitutional grounds, later.
If not, at least that outrage was balanced out by all the policy victories the GOP managed to get into the "must pass" package, I guess. Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (El6T/) 311
Happy Birthday, creeper!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (ptqGC) 312
NoahShachtman
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop." O M G! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (cF8AT) And yet Trump still won't pull their press passes. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (2JVJo) 313
Judicial Watch @JudicialWatch
@JudicialWatch President @TomFitton : "Schiff, Pelosi and the entire House majority think they are above the law. You won't believe the arguments they're using to try and stop Judicial Watch's lawsuit in uncovering @realDonaldTrump impeachment records." Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (8fB/R) 314
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops.
Whoops, my ass. These reckless azzholes need to be brought up on charges of inciting panic and sabotage. Is he from East Anglia Univ. by any chance? Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (EuPI/) 315
Jinx, why were you tested? Symptoms, or possible exposure?
I hope you don't have it. Prayers Posted by: vmom 2020 Illness, pretty bad, too. Much better now. The test I really need now is the one that would show the presence of antibodies, but that was not approved in the US by the FDA. It is made and sold in Europe and Asia. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (FTlwv) 316
For pete's sake, I'm so tired of the "new normal" BS. This is going to pass. It's temporary. The economy will rebound, things will go back to normal. Probably sooner than later. Jeesh! Buck up!
Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (Dc5Qe) Posted by: Fritz at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (2Mnv1) 318
>>I heard that the bill excludes Trump hotels from getting any bailout money is that true?
- - - - Someone earlier mentioned that the WH requested it. This is probably why they would do so: Democrats kept holding out these past days for. . (get this) a body that would have subpoena power to investigate all aspects of the Trump pandemic response. Unbelievable. (Impeachment mentality, still. . .) They didn't get their wish. The Democrats are trying to build an impeachment mechanism into the stimulus bill -- they are already trying to impeach POTUS over the Wuhan flu response. Full thread here: https://twitter.com/KimStrassel Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (bDqIh) 319
Is Brian Stetler Jeff Zucker's Mini Me? Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:35 AM (dzyR5) === I don't know but I do know that Zucker puts his "mini me" into Brian "Tater" Stetler. Often and with mucho gusto. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (pw+jk) 320
Having a hard time tracking WA state new cases in real time. Best thing I have found with permanent # is on wiki. It is encouraging that new cases reported yesterday were less than half of the day previous 111/248. Hopefully today will also show new cases starting to level off.
https://tinyurl.com/uug7unm Posted by: Rex B at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (6fa9D) 321
309 @realDonaldTrump 6 minutes ago
I will be doing a News Conference live from the @WhiteHouse at 5:00 P.M. (Eastern) to discuss the mtg of the G20 Leaders that took place this morning at 7:55 A.M. by World Teleconference. Also, my 12:00 P.M. Teleconference call w/50 Governors, plus Territories, will be discussed. Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (cF8AT) STOP THE HAMMERING!!!! Posted by: MSM at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (ABjxW) 322
So CONgress hates people who work for Trump Hotels.
That's nice to know that the Democrats hate people of color. This certainly can be litigated. Posted by: torabora at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (2mNYE) 323
These cases have been under investigation and being built for as long as 10 years according to Barr and team today.
Justice does not run on movie time. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ZLI7S) Also, any potential developments would just be drowned out by Wuhan Virus news, so why would we want anything to come out now? Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (CqE5x) 324
And Happy Birthday, Puddin Head!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (ptqGC) 325
Cuomo is a little less hysterical today...
Finally admits there is enough PPE in the hospitals right now. This is a far cry from the media echoing Cuomo of yesterday screaming that hospital workers had to wear trash bags and old dew rags as masks. All of a sudden, the ventilator can handle two people at a time, doubling the capacity without the army holding guns on the production workers. Fuck. Who could have predicted? Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (mrrpT) 326
Obamacare and CDC rules require all new test to come through their system. None of the 5000 labs around the specialize in viruses (ED, Uni, research) were allowed to work on this until about 2 and half weeks ago.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JFO2v) Another item to hang on the pencil neck of John "It's a Tax" Roberts. Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (y7DUB) 327
He said there were no extra crowds and none of the nurses were wearing masks. When he asked whether he should be wearing his, he was told, "No, not really."
Posted by: TheHoser at March 26, 2020 11:22 AM (IDjUx) ---- Yeah, my baby had an emergency and the hospital made me wear a mask when I came in. Once she tested clear for COVID they told me "you can take it off, it's just a precaution." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (II2Y0) 328
297 New York has been hard-hit and one reason is they were slow to close schools and the subway. Also, Cuomo has been more interested in pushing abortion and releasing cop killers early than preparing his state for a pandemic--including refusing to buy ventilators when he had the chance.
Given all this, why is he suddenly touted as a presidential candidate? -------------------- He speaks in complete sentences and can handle stairs. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (dzyR5) Posted by: JT at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (arJlL) 330
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) Maybe it's local but I though all elective procedures have been suspended in order to save masks, etc. for special occasions. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (ZQR/T) 331
I'm predicting a mini baby boom this Christmas season.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (87EdW) 332
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops
- Gosh, it's okay. It's only $16T in wealth. I'm betting he gets to keep *his* job, too. Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (41rs/) 333
This deliberate hysteria goes way beyond clickbait whoring.
The effin dems will excoriate Trump before, during, and after anything he does, irrespective of the collateral damage. We cannot peaceably coexist with lying evil bent on our destruction. Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:33 AM (EuPI/) Much like the 2008 Government caused recession. You know, where they used the 'stimulus' money to consolidate the banking industry? Treasury and Fed Bank had a problem, media blew it out of proportion. May have swung a presidential election. Remember those 'toxic assets'? They are all still out there. Not a single one was ever bought, and that market continues just as it had before. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (NgKpN) 334
I submitted a complaint against the networks yesterday to the FCC for their failure to broadcast the briefings. I said that they are abrogating the terms of their broadcast licenses.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (H8QX8) 335
Other posters were saying it covered everyone in Congress, but Trump wanted his name mentioned specifically.
That's my dumbass president clearly being a dumbass while all the Smart People make fun of him. Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (41rs/) Trump's name is nowhere in the bill. Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (nRNOc) 336
I would like to know if this virus is clustered in certain families. That would explain a lot.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:37 AM (CqE5x) Yes, anecdotally there does seem to be a genetic component to susceptibility, which is quite common with viruses. Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (QE8X6) 337
In an encapsulated tube more or less. It was all a scamdemic from the get go.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious I said this when it started that the numbers weren't adding up. Was told I didn't know what I was talking about. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (Vddbf) 338
Tom Fitton @TomFitton · 16h Clinton asserts "indisputable right" not to testify on emails. Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas. FBI "finds" new Clinton classified and #Bengahzi emails. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (8fB/R) 339
'Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day'
Wait, did Popeyes just come out with a new sandwich? Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (EuPI/) 340
Boy, I'll bet that's got Muller and Hillary and Comey shaking in their shoes.
These cases have been under investigation and being built for as long as 10 years according to Barr and team today. Justice does not run on movie time. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ZLI7S) The question is more a matter of "Why are we wasting resources on Venezuela's government when America's enemies continue to walk free?" Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (kOpft) 341
I read Sundance's "Team Red v Team Blue" economic analysis. It seems rather shallow, painting some corporations as Blue and essentially all land lords as Red. It seems like a contortion of the situation to fit his paradigm.
There are any number of land lords that are communists etc. Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (JRaU+) 342
332 British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops
- Gosh, it's okay. It's only $16T in wealth. I'm betting he gets to keep *his* job, too. Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 11:44 AM (41rs/) Its not his fault. He was using the IPCC computers. And some guy named Mann as lead programmer. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (NgKpN) 343
Tami, hopefully things will have calmed down by May 31. Prayers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (ptqGC) 344
I did not stick my finger in that girl's gizz, not once.
Posted by: JOE BIDEN at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (lMn1U) 345
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Wait a minute blood Ph levels? Andromeda? Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JcrKi) *doffs sterno drinking hat* Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (DjiZK) 346
I'm predicting a mini baby boom this Christmas season.
Posted by: Farmer Bob Quarter of them named Ko'Rona Vyress. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (Vddbf) 347
>>Also, any potential developments would just be drowned out by Wuhan Virus news, so why would we want anything to come out now?
All being covered in the presser. They were do to come down a couple weeks ago but had to be delayed until now because of Wuhan Flu. This isn't going away. They are indicting pretty much every senior leader in the Maduro regime. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (ZLI7S) 348
Clinton asserts "indisputable right" not to testify on emails.
Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Why, that;s IMPEACHABLE!" Posted by: Alternative Universe Adam Schiff at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (CqE5x) 349
Clinton asserts "indisputable right" not to testify on emails.
Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas. FBI "finds" new Clinton classified and #Bengahzi emails. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (8fB/R) I'm asserting an "indisputable right" not to pay taxes. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Tatvh) 350
I cut my own hair. High and tight isn't too difficult with clippers, just need a piece of duct tape to get the back even.
Posted by: Judge Spudd at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (QrOoP) 351
26 Mar 2020 - 11:36:38 AM
I will be doing a News Conference live from the @WhiteHouse at 5:00 P.M. (Eastern) to discuss the mtg of the G20 Leaders that took place this morning at 7:55 A.M. by World Teleconference. Also, my 12:00 P.M. Teleconference call w/50 Governors, plus Territories, will be discussed. Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (i0Vo7) 352
Prediction: Nancy Pelosi will die on a National Holiday.
Skeptic: How can you be so sure? Do you know for a fact when she'll die? Memorial Day, Independence Day, which? Prediction: Doesn't matter. The day she dies, ANY day she dies, will be declared a National Holiday! Cheers! ===== I will celebrate the day that bitch dies. If I could find a florist who would do it, I would send a very large, very expensive spray of roses to the funeral that says, "Enjoy Hell." It's worth risking burning in hell for. Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (vg8iE) 353
'Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day'
Wait, did Popeyes just come out with a new sandwich? Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (EuPI/) ========================== Did Nike just announce a new pair of shoes? Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Pqytn) 354
Ex-wife was asking why we're so far behind the world in testing. I really don't know. I spot checked some data.
I checked and Quest is up to 25,000/day, they and a couple of other labs are promising to get up to 300,000/week. Germany, pop. 90 mm, is at 400,000 tests/week. What up? Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2020 11:28 AM I read somewhere a couple days ago that there were tests made by government (CDC?) that were giving a ton of false positives. So those were stopped and I think President Trump enlisted non-government outlets to create good tests. So that is where the delay in testing resulted. I think I read it in one of JJ Sefton's recent Morning Report links. He may remember posting it, if he's around. I'll go look to see if I can find it in my favorites I have been saving regarding COVID-19. Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Do5/p) Posted by: runner at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (zr5Kq) 356
"Diamond Princess
680 tested positive. 8 died. Or 1.2%." another piece of the puzzle I'm looking for, is data on dosage of inoculum and correlation to severity of the disease. Cruise ships are called petri dishes, and I'd guess outcomes would be worse due to more exposure. (and an older clientele, but more sickly people probably don't go on cruises?) Same with some of these super spreader events, where someone is coughing on everything, kissing hugging several victims. Big Dosage and many show up at the hospital. But the casual touch of a low inoculum door knob, then rubbing the eye, could result in a low dosage infection (it takes longer to reach critical mass numbers starting at 1000 virus, than one million, if numbers double every? 8 hours, say.) So low dosage, body develops anti-bodies, barely notices a 99 degree fever ... and voila ... herd immunity is built. On that note, an infection party is maybe not a good idea, but perhaps a very low dosage intentional infection would basically serve as a vaccine ... more dangerous than a normal "dead virus" vaccine, but perhaps effective for healthy people. I've heard 70% with anti-bodies is the number to achieve herd immunity for Corvid-19 .... (measles it's like 95%) Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Cus5s) 357
I'm predicting a mini baby boom this Christmas season.
Posted by: Farmer Bob --- Regular sized babies later in the year? Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Y4EXg) 358
Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (8fB/R) Andrew Gillum asserts "privilege" over secret homosexual drug orgies. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Tatvh) 359
As more data has come in--showing less and less of a threat--the media has gotten more hysterical
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (6Sk4L) 360
Illness, pretty bad, too. Much better now.
=== Jinx, glad you are feeling better! please continue to take it easy been hearing that ppl feel better before they are better, get back to normal routine, then relapse bad Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (G546f) 361
Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day'
Wait, did Popeyes just come out with a new sandwich? Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (EuPI/) No, Nike released a new sneaker Posted by: JoeF. at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (CqE5x) 362
Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel · 21h 1) Democrats kept holding out these past days for.. (get this) a body that would have subpoena power to investigate all aspects of the Trump pandemic response. Unbelievable. (Impeachment mentality, still...) They didn't get their wish. This is what pure evil looks like. Day after day. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (8fB/R) 363
Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (cF8AT)
Teleconferencing with 50 governors? That sounds like fun. Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (Ez6QX) 364
I read Sundance's "Team Red v Team Blue" economic analysis. It seems rather shallow, painting some corporations as Blue and essentially all land lords as Red. It seems like a contortion of the situation to fit his paradigm.
There are any number of land lords that are communists etc. Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (JRaU+) Sundance is very good at collecting data. Analyzing it not so much... Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (y7DUB) 365
I read Sundance's "Team Red v Team Blue" economic analysis. It seems rather shallow, painting some corporations as Blue and essentially all land lords as Red. It seems like a contortion of the situation to fit his paradigm.
There are any number of land lords that are communists etc. Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (JRaU+) I've had the uneasy feeling the past month or two that Sundance at Conservative Treeehouse is kind of losing it. A bit. Tilting that way, anyway. Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (NiXyF) 366
225 There have been reports in the crazysphere that
hospitals are no busier than usual, and that many ERs are actually kind of empty. Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2020 11:26 AM (ZCiJZ) Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today? Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) They did not want to put up with any of your shit! Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (JFO2v) 367
There have also been unconfirmed stories going around of bad practices
at that lab in the past, particularly with respect to improper disposal techniques and stolen test animals. It may well be that the ChiComs thought that something horrific had escaped. also taking extra test animals from the lab and selling them for human consumption at the nearby wet market Posted by: brak at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (cG+eD) 368
As we were going to bed last night, we heard one of the doctors on Fox say there is some belief that a certain BP med can help prevent Wuhan flu. It's the one we both take every day, Losartan.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (ptqGC) 369
359 As more data has come in--showing less and less of a threat--the media has gotten more hysterical
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (6Sk4L) =========== They've shot four silver bullets at Trump, and they've all missed. I'd be disappointed too. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (UWqZJ) 370
>>>All sales taxes not to be sent to the gubmint for the next X months, instead to be retained by the businesses to mitigate the damage incurred.
Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at March 26, 2020 11:41 AM (d6mdH) Ya no, this hurts me more than you but SEND ME YOUR MONEY NOW. Posted by: Your State Government at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (ZQR/T) 371
Clinton asserts "indisputable right" not to testify on emails.
Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas. FBI "finds" new Clinton classified and #Bengahzi emails. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM These muthafu*kas are going to be shitting bricks when Americans rediscover their indisputable rights and their privilege. Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2020 11:49 AM (axyOa) 372
It's funny , in spite of being on SNL
Posted by: runner at March 26, 2020 11:49 AM (zr5Kq) 373
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I bought an under desk bike and am churning away while typing these..maybe I'll get skinny legs at when the lockdown is finally over. Posted by: IC at March 26, 2020 11:29 AM---- I got me one of those under desk models too. Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 26, 2020 11:49 AM (IDjUx) 374
marcorubio
Today @NicolasMaduro will be indicted by the @TheJusticeDept & charged with narco-terrorism Yawn. Get back to be when you indict Jeff Zucker with journo-terrorism, Little Marco Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:49 AM (EuPI/) 375
It's not just the President covered under the 'Conflict of Interest' section:
(A) the President, the Vice President, the head of an Executive department, or a Member of Congress; and (B) the spouse, child, son-in-law, or daughter-in-law, as determined under applicable common law, of an individual described in subparagraph (A). Bottom of pg. 555 on to pg 556 here: https://tinyurl.com/r4t47g7 Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:49 AM (cF8AT) 376
>>Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas.
OMG. I had forgotten about him. Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 11:50 AM (QE8X6) 377
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today? Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) They did not want to put up with any of your shit! Posted by: rhennigantx at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM They probably would tell you to take the tube. Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2020 11:50 AM (axyOa) 378
Boy, I'll bet that's got Muller and Hillary and Comey shaking in their shoes.
These cases have been under investigation and being built for as long as 10 years according to Barr and team today. Justice does not run on movie time. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ZLI7S) The question is more a matter of "Why are we wasting resources on Venezuela's government when America's enemies continue to walk free?" Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 11:45 AM (kOpft) And the answer is "Because Barr doesn't have a record of covering up narco-terrorism and isn't best buds with Maduro." Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2020 11:50 AM (2JVJo) 379
Asset forfeiture. Remember when Trump signed that EO?
$450 million so far in South Florida and growing. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S) 380
I'm predicting a mini baby boom this Christmas season.
Posted by: Farmer Bob --- Regular sized babies later in the year? Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Y4EXg ******* I thought ALL babies were Fun Sized... Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (flINI) 381
194 They are basically going after the senior leadership in Maduro's corrupt regime including the military and judicial branch.
This would be huge news during normal times. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (ZLI7S) What's that old saying, Amateurs talk strategy, Professionals talk logistics? How are we going to lay a finger on any of them without a military invasion? It's like putting out a warrant for Putin, or Xi, or Kim Jong-Un. Okay, we hates them, so what? All of the military leadership of Venezuela has become a powerful narco-cartel, that is true. It also makes them unbreakable from the outside, because if one falls, they all fall, and they know it. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (trdmm) 382
if they had said NO Company owned by any major Government Official could get funds, that I would have applauded.
That is pretty much what it says Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (nRk/c) 383
Thank you, VMom
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (FTlwv) 384
We've had zero deaths from Chinese Lung AIDS in our county so far, but the yutes are still gunning each other down.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (ptqGC) 385
So...two Stanford professors (and judging by their CVs they are leftists) point out the undeniable problems with terrifyingly high death rates that are calculated from the sickest cohorts.
Selection bias - how do it work? Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (Tatvh) 386
345 218
Wait a minute blood Ph levels? Andromeda? Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2020 11:30 AM (JcrKi) *doffs sterno drinking hat* Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 26, 2020 11:46 AM (DjiZK) --- Right there with ya. *wails like a baby* Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (TXOkZ) 387
Self-tanning: Spray tanning foam on mitt, spread all over body.
I'd have a big square on my back. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (f6lTY) 388
Trump should retool Obama's Jobs Saved Metric and start pumping out Lives Saved numbers.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:34 AM (dzyR5) And created!! Posted by: Quarantined with the old lady at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (88+cf) 389
"Selection bias" is a simple concept.
The ourth estate is beyond innumerate. They are neanderthal. Posted by: Anon at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (TnwAJ) 390
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) Most elective procedures have been cancelled. Saves bed space, equipment and PPE's...as well as staff. Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (cF8AT) 391
*sheepish grin* Save your "Happy Birthdays" for PuddinHead. I don't get there till Sunday.
I'll just copy all these good wishes. That'll save you the trouble come Sunday. Posted by: creeper at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (XxJt1) 392
In Maryland, we're slightly below 1%. 423 diagnosed and four deaths.
I wish we had more stats on how many had to be hospitalized, and how many had mild symptoms and were sent home to recuperate. Posted by: sillyme at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (RPGAd) 393
306 Son and wife are expecting. Baby is due May 31st. His MIL is an ER nurse in Cali.
She was scheduled to be here for the baby's birth but the hospital she works at just cancelled all vacations for April AND May. DIL is freaking out.... Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 11:42 AM (cF8AT) My wife's hospital has banned all visitors Children's Hospital has also banned visitors, which is the scariest thing as a parent. I can't imagine. Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (dKiJG) 394
"Selection bias" is a simple concept.
The ourth estate is beyond innumerate. They are neanderthal. Posted by: Anon at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (TnwAJ) Hey, now! Posted by: Insurance commercial caveman guy at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (NiXyF) 395
Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Why, that;s IMPEACHABLE!" Posted by: Alternative Universe Adam Schiff at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (CqE5x) What Privilege? The only legal Privilege is Executive Privilege, which would have to be invoked by Obama himself. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (NgKpN) 396
Gotta give it to the GOP though, it was smart to include those changes to parts of O-care that specifically worsened this crisis (like testing requirements) in a "must pass" bill. It wasn't $ for small business, but was directly related to the problem.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (El6T/) 397
>>Schiff asserts "privilege" over secret phone record subpoenas. OMG. I had forgotten about him. Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 11:50 AM (QE8X6) Schiff, Nadler, Piglosi, Schumer.....*types* *deletes* Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC) 398
>>Asset forfeiture. Remember when Trump signed that EO?
$450 million so far in South Florida and growing. - - - - Finally we're seeing that EO in action!! Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (bDqIh) 399
>>What's that old saying, Amateurs talk strategy, Professionals talk logistics? How are we going to lay a finger on any of them without a military invasion? It's like putting out a warrant for Putin, or Xi, or Kim Jong-Un. Okay, we hates them, so what?
>>All of the military leadership of Venezuela has become a powerful narco-cartel, that is true. It also makes them unbreakable from the outside, because if one falls, they all fall, and they know it. You know what's interesting? If you actually listen to the press conference they are answering many of these questions. Go figure. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (ZLI7S) 400
These muthafu*kas are going to be shitting bricks when Americans rediscover their indisputable rights and their privilege.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2020 11:49 AM (axyOa) ============================ "Hillary Clinton invokes her Fifth Amendment Right against self-incrimination" doesn't work well for her, so 'indisputable' will have to do. Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 11:53 AM (Pqytn) 401
377 Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Get in on the ground floor of the exciting drone colonoscopy business! Posted by: getting the banned back together at March 26, 2020 11:53 AM (zFO5l) 402
Apocalyptic surge in NYC as 13 die in one day'
How do we know it wasn't the net neutrality bill that killed them? Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 11:53 AM (Uu+Jp) 403
379 Asset forfeiture. Remember when Trump signed that EO?
$450 million so far in South Florida and growing. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S) No I don't remember. Tell us more. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 11:53 AM (ZQR/T) 404
I think I'll go take a nap. I'm more depressed than usual today.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2020 11:53 AM (2JVJo) 405
402 it was the Paris climate accords
Posted by: CN at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (ONvIw) Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (II2Y0) 407
How are we going to lay a finger on any of them without a military invasion?
I'm not sure we have to. $15 million buys a lot of ham sandwiches. The people he's starving to death know this. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (n6bs1) 408
I love how Cuomo is praising NYC as being more "tolerant." Except for unborn babies.
He's a vile show-boater. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (ptqGC) 409
390 Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) -------------------- Vic, no one wants to look up your ass. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (dzyR5) 410
dow up 1,200
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (i0Vo7) 411
"Washington Post Opinions@PostOpinions
From the Editorial Board: Trump is spreading false hope for a virus cure - and that's not the only damage" Wait! WAPO is now against a politician peddling Hope? Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (MxEKc) 412
269 Pelosi is 80 years old today. old bat.
She was born the day after Sauron was defeated? Explains a lot. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (E+OcO) 413
359 As more data has come in--showing less and less of a threat--the media has gotten more hysterical
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (6Sk4L) So have some governors. Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (Ez6QX) 414
Also, I think it's probably worth noting how *certain people* want to focus on breaking, but trivial news, rather than the topic of a thread about how their doomsday predictions justifying the tyrannical response we've seen, are utter bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (kOpft) Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (ZLI7S) 416
I think I'll go take a nap. I'm more depressed than usual today.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2020 11:53 AM (2JVJo) I was pretty depressed yesterday. My husband was starting to get seriously worried about his business, but after a one hour call with a business consultant this morning, he's feeling MUCH better. Hope you feel much better after your nap. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (ptqGC) 417
Vic, no one wants to look up your ass.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (dzyR5) ******** Shitty Job, But someone has to do it Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (i0Vo7) 418
Spray tanning foam on mitt
Does anyone who knows me think for one minute that my God wouldn't give me a perfect natural tan? Posted by: Mutt Rombley at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (KxVoZ) 419
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops
Hit the wrong button on my calculator. Sorry. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (Tatvh) 420
This was an op from the get-go.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (f7Img) Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (QE8X6) 422
"LI - petition to make Haaavard use unused dorms now for homeless. Where do I sign that one"
But only if they close the bathrooms and make them take dumps on the floor. Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (EuPI/) 423
To illustrate how insanely stultifying the FDA's rules are, we have an instrument operated by a computer that up to about three years ago could only be run on Windows XP because the FDA's rules for software verification are so ridiculously byzantine that it took years for the manufacturer to get approval for an updated version. Not the actual diagnostic test mind you, the software that operates the instrument.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (H3ZEL) 424
I don't give a fuck about Venezuela or Maduro.
He doesn't run a major operation into the US without someone or some organization here taking a cut. That'll be the interesting part. Mr. Brennan, would you like to chime in? Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (x/2Z8) 425
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM Well I think we have discovered where all those new "respirators" for New York are coming from. Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (axyOa) 426
On that note, an infection party is maybe not a good
idea, but perhaps a very low dosage intentional infection would basically serve as a vaccine ... more dangerous than a normal "dead virus" vaccine, but perhaps effective for healthy people. I've heard 70% with anti-bodies is the number to achieve herd immunity for Corvid-19 .... (measles it's like 95%) Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2020 11:47 AM (Cus5s) === Could be that the RO for Chines Communist Party Flu is 2-3.1 and for measles the RO is 11-18. Measles is 3.5 to 9 times more contagious. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (pw+jk) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (+y/Ru) 428
408 I love how Cuomo is praising NYC as being more "tolerant." Except for unborn babies.
And the conservatives he ordered out of "his" state. Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (KxVoZ) 429
380 I'm predicting a mini baby boom this Christmas season.
Posted by: Farmer Bob Abortion Clinics are closed so it's gonna be high. Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 11:57 AM (dKiJG) 430
After this is all over, my wife and I are going to Las Vegas and staying at a Trump casino.
And we're not Las Vegas people.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing 431
Doesn't Venezuela produce something like 93% of all of the Miss Universes? Must be the waters of Lake Titicaca.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (DY3v8) 432
Son is still waiting to hear from his girlfriend whether her boss has tested positive.
He's getting really tired of being quarantined. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (ptqGC) 433
I miss the days when we wondered if Hunter Biden was going to show up in court and whether Harry and Megan had lost their minds and how forgetful Joe would have to get before Dems dump him.
The news on Maduro is welcome if only from the standpoint that it's not Kung Flu related. I am SO sick of nonstop virus talk. Posted by: creeper at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (XxJt1) 434
Innumeracy: Recall the NYT nitwit who told us that Bloomberg's $500 million ad campaign could have given $1000 to every American.
Posted by: FloridaMan -- still think all this is overreaction at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (r28kI) 435
If anyone is looking for data, I suggest this site. All data and graphs. no propaganda. You can look for your state an get the latest statistics. Also look at the map for where the hotspots are.
Hint: The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana have almost nothing. https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en Posted by: Just Lily at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (hvTDg) 436
How are we going to lay a finger on any of them without a military invasion?
Same way we took out Ceausceau. We didn't. The people there did. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (Tatvh) 437
If someone wants to argue about how much this Wuhan Flu Panic is costing American citizens:
Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie $2 trillion (Congress) +$4 trillion (Fed & Treasury) -------------------------- $6 trillion stimulus $6 trillion divided by 350 million citizens = $17,000 per citizen times a family of 4 =$68,000 per family of new national debt and dollar devaluation in this stimulus. not a good deal 9:17 AM. Mar 26, 2020 That's a baseline. Actual cost is probably some integer multiple of that. "You Can't Put A Price On Human Lives!!!1!1!!eleventy!1!1!!!" Posted by: Insurance commercial caveman guy at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (NiXyF) 438
Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today? Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) I was supposed to have a hernia repair this week. Now it's postponed until May. Posted by: Bert G at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (OMsf+) 439
408 I love how Cuomo is praising NYC as being more "tolerant." Except for unborn babies.
He's a vile show-boater. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (ptqGC) He'll be a much better candidate for the Dems than any of the bozos on the debate stage. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (ZQR/T) 440
431 Doesn't Venezuela produce something like 93% of all of the Miss Universes? Must be the waters of Lake Titicaca.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (DY3v ============ The the Paul Haggis written and directed film The Next Three Days, Russell Crowe breaks his wife out from jail and escapes to...Venezuela. Released in 2011. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (UWqZJ) Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (NiXyF) 442
Innumeracy: Recall the NYT nitwit who told us that Bloomberg's $500 million ad campaign could have given $1000 to every American.
Posted by: FloridaMan -- still think all this is overreaction at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (r28kI) They were just off by a bunch of zeroes, and everybody knows zeroes are nothing. So ... pffft. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (Tatvh) 443
Trump is spreading false hope for a virus cure - and that's not the only damage"
Wait! WAPO is now against a politician peddling Hope? Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (MxEKc) === Is there anything that POTUS Trump can't do? Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (pw+jk) 444
106
i note that nanzi asked for the next bill to include strengthening OSHA. because there's s so many OSHA violations associated with getting a fucking virus... Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (8D42x) It's not what she's talking about, but if an employee gets covid-19 while on the job, it's a recordable incident against the employer. Posted by: Nobody at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (8zK8n) 445
dow up 1,200
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (i0Vo7) Time for some Dem governor to make some cataclysmic announcement Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (imkrr) 446
British epidemiologist who predicted over 2 million Americans -- and 500k Brits -- would die from coronavirus now says his model, which went viral, is wrong. Says England is unlikely to have more than 20k deaths and potentially much less. Whoops
Hit the wrong button on my calculator. Sorry. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM I must have, I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail. Posted by: Michael Bolton at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (Do5/p) 447
this is the same question i asked this morning. and have been asking for a few days.
what are the numbers screened and ruled out? what are the numbers tested and negative? we know the total number of cases. what are the numbers of positive who need hospitalization? what are the number of hospitalized who actually need a ventilator and ICU? we know how many died. based on ALL of the above, i'd say that the mortality rate is in the .2-.4% range. we don't HAVE to have a totally random sample to figure out how over the top we're being right now, but it's definitely hair on fire sky is falling chicken fucking going on right now. Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:06 AM (8D42x) So, gov Cuomo just answered PART of my questions for NY state. what are the numbers screened and ruled out? UNK what are the numbers tested and negative? UNK we know the total number of cases. 37,258 what are the numbers of positive who need hospitalization? 5327 - i.e.14% of positive what are the number of hospitalized who actually need a ventilator and ICU? 1290 - i.e. 3.4% of positive we know how many died. 385 - i.e. 1% of positive This means that the mortalitiy rate is DEFINATELY less than 1% probably in the .2-.4% range. Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (8D42x) 448
Leftist praying the unemployment numbers will cool off the stock market
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (ZCEU2) 449
>>I love how Cuomo is praising NYC as being more "tolerant." Except for unborn babies.
He's a vile show-boater. - - - - The Acela crowd are swooning, but they don't seem to understand how repellent a NYC elitist can be. A lot of us remember Cuomo telling pro-life New Yorkers to leave - they are not welcome in his state, as well as his love of gun control and taxes (didn't they gleefully chase Trump out of NY with taxes?). Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (bDqIh) 450
I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.
Posted by: Michael Bolton, Epidemiologer, Penacell at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (DY3v8) 451
435 If anyone is looking for data, I suggest this site. All data and graphs. no propaganda. You can look for your state an get the latest statistics. Also look at the map for where the hotspots are.
Hint: The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana have almost nothing. https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en Posted by: Just Lily at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (hvTDg) ========= Charleston has 52 cases and...zero deaths. So, of course the mayor closed the city down. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (UWqZJ) 452
417 Vic, no one wants to look up your ass.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (dzyR5) ******** Shitty Job, But someone has to do it Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (i0Vo7) ================= Yes, that job - plus a surgeon's skills, sometimes -- saves lives. Posted by: FloridaMan -- still think all this is overreaction at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (r28kI) 453
Hey, anyone here have cataract surgery? Is it difficult?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (dzyR5) 454
392 In Maryland, we're slightly below 1%. 423 diagnosed and four deaths.
I wish we had more stats on how many had to be hospitalized, and how many had mild symptoms and were sent home to recuperate. Posted by: sillyme at March 26, 2020 11:52 AM (RPGAd) 1857 in serious or critical condition in the US https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (s9Eo8) 455
368 As we were going to bed last night, we heard one of the doctors on Fox say there is some belief that a certain BP med can help prevent Wuhan flu. It's the one we both take every day, Losartan.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (ptqGC) ------------------------------ My doc originally put me on Lisinopril a couple weeks ago. When I complained about a dry cough, she switched me to Losartan. Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (CAJOC) 456
435 If anyone is looking for data, I suggest this site. All data and graphs. no propaganda. You can look for your state an get the latest statistics. Also look at the map for where the hotspots are.
Posted by Just Lily Thanks! Will check it out. Posted by: Rex B at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (6fa9D) 457
Charleston has 52 cases and...zero deaths.
So, of course the mayor closed the city down. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (UWqZJ) Is he a Dem? Our Dem mayor shut us down over one case. He's our glorious fat version of Hussein Obama. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (ptqGC) 458
Innumeracy: Recall the NYT nitwit who told us that
Bloomberg's $500 million ad campaign could have given $1000 to every American. Posted by: FloridaMan -- still think all this is overreaction at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (r28kI) ==== That's a lie!!! The stupid NYT c*nt said Bloomberg could have given a million dollar to every American. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (pw+jk) 459
Is there anything that POTUS Trump can't do?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (pw+jk) Yes. He cannot hold huge rockstar rallies. Not anymore. Posted by: Diogenes at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (axyOa) 460
Justice does not run on movie time.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ZLI7S) It probably would run a lot faster if the DOJ didn't waste time building cases on Russian troll farms and leaders of S American countries where there is a zero chance anyone is going to jail. Posted by: Boswell at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (32YRo) 461
Caleb Hull
@CalebJHull The DOJ under AG Bill Barr just announced they have extensive proof of Maduro shipping TONS of cocaine to the U.S.. Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (i0Vo7) 462
448 Leftist praying the unemployment numbers will cool off the stock market
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (ZCEU2) 1) Leftist don't pray B) They need to pray harder III) up 1200+ Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (cF8AT) 463
457 Charleston has 52 cases and...zero deaths.
So, of course the mayor closed the city down. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (UWqZJ) Is he a Dem? Our Dem mayor shut us down over one case. He's our glorious fat version of Hussein Obama. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (ptqGC) ========= Yes. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (UWqZJ) 464
https://covid19stats.global/state/
Numbers getting a bit long to add up on my tablet, no idea why they are not giving totals or at least non I see. Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (ZCEU2) 465
449 A lot of us remember Cuomo telling pro-life New Yorkers to leave - they are not welcome in his state, as well as his love of gun control and taxes (didn't they gleefully chase Trump out of NY with taxes?).
I took his advice and left. That "my state" shit still rankles me. He has what is supposed to be the privilege of a temporary stewardship of the executive office. Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (KxVoZ) 466
still waiting to hear from his girlfriend whether her boss has tested positive.
He's getting really tired of being quarantined. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (ptqGC) Someone at my Son's Kindergarten tested positive and I am still waiting and so is my neighbor. K and PreK are in a separate building. Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (dKiJG) 467
"The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases."
I don't understand the difference between these two things. Posted by: PJ at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (qlTN9) 468
I've been doing more reading than usual recently. My preferences are for history and biography. In reading biographies of Woodrow Wilson, Connie Mack, Winston Churchill, etc., I'm struck by the lack of references in the 1918-1919 periods to the Spanish influenza. The Great War, elections, the shortened baseball season (due to WWI), sure, but nothing about the flu that killed millions. Odd. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (7rVsF) 469
@CalebJHull
The DOJ under AG Bill Barr just announced they have extensive proof of Maduro shipping TONS of cocaine to the U.S.. Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (i0Vo7) ------------ Well, what else are people going to do when they are stuck at home?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing 470
Hey, anyone here have cataract surgery? Is it difficult?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (dzyR5) My husband just had his first eye done a week ago today, and it was a breeze. He's scheduled for his second one next week. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (ptqGC) 471
The DOJ under AG Bill Barr just announced they have extensive proof of Maduro shipping TONS of cocaine to the U.S..
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (i0Vo7) Wake me up when the FBI/DEA sends a swat team into Venezuela to arrest him. Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (NiXyF) 472
415 >>No I don't remember. Tell us more.
https://tinyurl.com/y4qf8y9q Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (ZLI7S) This pertains, strictly, to foreign entities. Right? So, the $430,000 mentioned pertains to Venezuela? Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (ZQR/T) 473
467 "The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases."
I don't understand the difference between these two things. Posted by: PJ at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (qlTN9) ========== Probably the difference between true numbers and only those that have been identified. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (UWqZJ) 474
417 Vic, no one wants to look up your ass.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM (dzyR5) ******** Shitty Job, But someone has to do it Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:56 AM (i0Vo7) I've often wondered what it's like when superstar beloved child comes home from med school one day and announces to Mom and Dad "I'm going to be a proctologist!" Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (QE8X6) 475
Not to worry, Trump has been in the resurrection business all his life.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (dzyR5) 476
Self-tanning: Spray tanning foam on mitt, spread all over body.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 11:40 AM (ptqGC) You leave tan lines?....sexy! Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (X/Pw5) 477
dow up 1,200
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (i0Vo7) Time for some Dem governor to make some cataclysmic announcement Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (imkrr) === My money is on Newsome under direct orders from his aunt Nanzi Palsi. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (pw+jk) 478
The Acela crowd are swooning, but they don't seem to
understand how repellent a NYC elitist can be. A lot of us remember Cuomo telling pro-life New Yorkers to leave - they are not welcome in his state, as well as his love of gun control and taxes (didn't they gleefully chase Trump out of NY with taxes?). Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (bDqIh) I'm seeing the swooning happening across the nation, from people who are seeing him for the first time at the press conferences and from all of his free time on CNN and they think he's an impressive guy who is showing great leadership and cares for his state, and they wish he was their governor (because no other governor in the nation cares for his/her state, apparently). These are also people who think that everything should be locked down nationwide and the feds should be nationalizing means of production to get emergency equipment made. Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (nRNOc) 479
The Acela crowd are swooning, but they don't seem to
understand how repellent a NYC elitist can be. A lot of us remember Cuomo telling pro-life New Yorkers to leave - they are not welcome in his state, as well as his love of gun control and taxes (didn't they gleefully chase Trump out of NY with taxes?). Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (bDqIh) ========================== The NY Left has chase a lot more New Yawkas of of NY than just Trump. Several metric tons of former NYers have moved elsewhere, with NC being a top destination. Working people, who pay taxes, who want a better life themselves and their families. And those are taxes that aren't being collected any more by the NY DoR. Posted by: mrp at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (Pqytn) 480
475 Not to worry, Trump has been in the resurrection business all his life.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (dzyR5) ========= Theory: Trump is James Bond in Skyfall, and Nancy Pelosi is M. Discuss. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (UWqZJ) 481
The instigator behind the house the homeless in Harvard dorms petition -- Christopher Diak is a first-year M.Div. candidate at Harvard Divinity School and an administrator in the Forum for Growth and Innovation at Harvard Business School. While at Harvard, he intends to pursue his research interests in the cognitive study of religion, philosophy of religion, and comparative mysticism. Through his work in the ministry program, he hopes to contribute to ongoing efforts to bring the Business and Divinity Schools into dialogue on matters of meaning, pedagogy, and mission. Comparative mysticism? WTF? Voodoo vs santeria -- which betters meets your mysticism needs? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (pNxlR) 482
413 359 As more data has come in--showing less and less of a threat--the media has gotten more hysterical
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 26, 2020 11:48 AM (6Sk4L) So have some governors. Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2020 11:55 AM (Ez6QX) They have no choice. Remember, this is our "betters/experts." The mask has slowly been coming off for the last 30 years. Don't be surprised, even if Trump waited until May 1st to gradually open the country to read about "had he waited just one more week, grandma would still be alive." The media has to keep this going forever to justify their actions/reporting. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (Ozpxd) 483
>>It probably would run a lot faster if the DOJ didn't waste time building cases on Russian troll farms and leaders of S American countries where there is a zero chance anyone is going to jail.
Just out of curiosity, what would you do about a corrupt government that was sending billions of dollars of drugs into your country using that countries corrupt military in conjunction with their justice system and terror groups including FARC and Hezbollah? And the troll farm prosecution was done by Mueller not main DOJ. Main DOJ threw the case out a couple weeks ago not that anyone seemed to care. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (ZLI7S) 484
Leftist praying the unemployment numbers will cool off the stock market
Posted by: Skip MSM needs some photos of corpses stacked like cord wood. Unfortunately American hospitals aren't the good source they had hoped for so they may have to use file photos from socialist utopias. Posted by: Ripley at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (MxEKc) 485
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (UWqZJ)
Never saw it. Cliffs? Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (DFQ/w) 486
I think the media has been wrong every single time they've gone all-in unanimous hair on fire in support of something.
The more they shriek something, the more likely they're entirely wrong. Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 11:08 AM (Uu+Jp) The shrieking is the tipoff. If something is manifestly true, there's no need to shriek; the thing speaks for itself. See, e.g., global warming. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (Tatvh) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (8fB/R) 488
@CalebJHull
The DOJ under AG Bill Barr just announced they have extensive proof of Maduro shipping TONS of cocaine to the U.S.. Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 12:02 PM (i0Vo7) Hunter Biden was one of his best customers. And for all we know, his old demented dad, too. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (ptqGC) 489
470 Hey, anyone here have cataract surgery? Is it difficult?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:01 PM (dzyR5) My husband just had his first eye done a week ago today, and it was a breeze. He's scheduled for his second one next week. --------------- Thanks Jane. What is his vision like in that eye? Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (dzyR5) 490
Right there with ya. *wails like a baby* Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 26, 2020 11:51 AM (TXOkZ) Snowflakes have natural immunity?! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (pNxlR) 491
417 Vic, no one wants to look up your ass.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:54 AM Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it. Posted by: Big Tommy Callahan at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (Do5/p) 492
Hey, anyone here have cataract surgery? Is it difficult?
- It's scary and unpleasant but not painful or difficult. Worst part is having one good eye and one bad eye for a month or so. That and the bill. It's well worth doing. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (+y/Ru) 493
485 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:04 PM (UWqZJ)
Never saw it. Cliffs? Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (DFQ/w) ========== Bond resurrects. M dies. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (UWqZJ) 494
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For pete's sake, I'm so tired of the "new normal" BS. This is going to pass. It's temporary. The economy will rebound, things will go back to normal. Probably sooner than later. Jeesh! Buck up! Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 26, 2020 11:43 AM (Dc5Qe) You think governors, mayors, and feds are going to voluntarily give all these newfound powers like the ability to confiscate private property and guns? Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (mpXpK) 495
Why the F are the Subway system still running in NYC
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (dKiJG) 496
I would love to see Maduro's government fall, it's arguably one of the most purely evil governments that has ever existed in the western hemisphere, and there's a lot of competition for that title. But when there was an opportunity a year or so ago, Venezuela's neighbors showed that they lacked the will and the inclination to do anything about the problem on their borders, and after that I gave up hope an anything other then Venezuela turning into the next North Korea. Or even more likely, just collapsing back into the jungle, with people some day exploring the ruins of Caracas the way we explore Angkor Wat today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (trdmm) 497
Leftist praying the unemployment numbers will cool off the stock market
Posted by: Skip I suspect that that's already discounted. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (Tatvh) Posted by: Ha at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (fNWtj) Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (41rs/) 500
>>> Wait! WAPO is now against a politician peddling Hope?
Didnt they peddle false hope that Trump would be impeached for 3 years ?(without evidence) Posted by: McCool at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (9X4u5) 501
The Acela crowd are swooning, but they don't seem to
understand how repellent a NYC elitist can be. A lot of us remember Cuomo telling pro-life New Yorkers to leave - they are not welcome in his state, as well as his love of gun control and taxes (didn't they gleefully chase Trump out of NY with taxes?). Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (bDqIh) Hillary is a good example. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (8fB/R) 502
467 "The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases."
I don't understand the difference between these two things. Posted by: PJ at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (qlTN9) ---------------------------------- Basically, you have to include all of the people infected, not just the ones we know about. Since we're only testing people who show up at the doctor with symptoms, we're missing those who never bothered going to the doctor, and those who had the virus, but never got symptoms. Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (CAJOC) 503
The DOJ under AG Bill Barr just announced they have extensive proof of Maduro shipping TONS of cocaine to the U.S..
Pfffft.... Probably decline to prosecute. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (Xesvh) 504
NBC and CNN producers say they're through airing Trump's virus pressers. "We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop."
----- NBC, CNN? No question from you. You go now. Posted by: BluesFish at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (vnP3E) 505
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (UWqZJ)
Stop I can only get so erect! Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (DFQ/w) 506
but nothing about the flu that killed millions. Odd.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 26, 2020 12:03 PM (7rVsF) It wasn't a big media event. Didn't make an impression on the American psyche. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (ZQR/T) 507
Why the F are the Subway system still running in NYC
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (dKiJG) Why people have to get to and from work . . . Oh . . . Wait . . . Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (NiXyF) Posted by: Jay at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (wwKHQ) 509
How much would the average, or mean, IQ rise if the media disappeared?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (Uu+Jp) 510
Right now, I'd say our best forecasts come from the world of Astrology.
Since the virus was born during Scorpio, and emerged during the penumbra of Capricorn, during the 3rd matriculation of the 9th cycle of Thutmose the Apparent, while the planet Uranus was hovering in the Cosmic Bat nebula , the virus will appear as a Giant Slor! for a period of 5 lunar cycles. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (DY3v8) 511
One of the few GOOD aspects of the Coronavirus scare is that it gives the Feds the muscle and the nerve they need to shut down ALL illegal immigration and with it, to shut down most smuggling operations as well.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (trdmm) 512
Jane,I have been wondering about that.
ACE inhibitors (like lisinopril) and ARBs (lije Losartan) act on the same thing the virus attaches to - ACE 2 receptors. So one would think there's some kind of effect. However, a lot of the severe cases are those with cardiovascular conditions. ACE inhibitors and ARBs are the most common hbp meds around. So it's hard to know if these meds improve or worsen one's chances with the China virus. I hope someone is keeping track of who was on what meds and how bad they got the WuFlu and publishes it at some point Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (G546f) 513
Adam Loewy
@AdamLoewyATX · 1h A doctor friend just called me and told me APD showed up at his office to shut it down. His practice handles very time sensitive matters and this shuttering will harm patients. The #ATXCouncil needs to wake up and modify this Order ASAP. eh? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (8fB/R) 514
Leftist praying the unemployment numbers will cool off the stock market
Posted by: Skip I suspect that that's already discounted. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (Tatvh) It is but the MFM is still running around like it's earth shattering news. American are losing their jobs at a historic pace!!!!! Well thank the local governments for that Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (imkrr) 515
Re MFM: At least most arsonists are smart enough to be standing outside of the house when they set it on fire.
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (8B6Ng) 516
There is a baseline number of flu deaths that happens in the US every year.
I have heard of numbers ranging from 20,000 to 80,000 deaths from flu per year. If we assume flu is constant throughout the year, and there are 30,000 deaths in a year, we should get 2,500 deaths from ALL flus in a typical month in the US. That is what I am calling the "baseline number". Note that this is WITHOUT coronavirus being around. But the flu is not constant throughout the year. It is worse in "the flu season" (aka winter months). So March numbers will be higher than August numbers. How come we are not hearing about EXCESS deaths from coronavirus, over and above the baseline number? Damn reporters and their Journalism majors. Posted by: Reggaeman at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (lxvHL) 517
Charleston has 52 cases and...zero deaths.
So, of course the mayor closed the city down. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (UWqZJ) Yeah, that's gonna be hard to walk back if McMaster dials it down a couple of weeks. Any pol who inflicts a shutdown at this point is a fool. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (H3ZEL) 518
You think governors, mayors, and feds are going to voluntarily give all these newfound powers like the ability to confiscate private property and guns?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (mpXpK) Who is confiscating property and guns? These aren't newfound powers. These powers have always existed under states of emergency. Read up on what the homefront was like during WW2. Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (s9Eo8) 519
So we're not gonna die?
Posted by: freaked, I'm starting to think you people are not cynical enough at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (Tnijr) 520
It probably would run a lot faster if the DOJ didn't waste time building cases on Russian troll farms and leaders of S American countries where there is a zero chance anyone is going to jail.
Investigate CAIR. 1940: German-American Bund 2020: CAIR Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (Tatvh) Posted by: runner at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (zr5Kq) 522
Bruno Maçães
@MacaesBruno · 4h Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work noticing a pattern Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (8fB/R) 523
If residents of NYC are elite why would they elect a mayor who hates them and wants to destroy them?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (Uu+Jp) 524
And the troll farm prosecution was done by Mueller not main DOJ. Main DOJ threw the case out a couple weeks ago not that anyone seemed to care.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (ZLI7S) Not to quibble Jack, but IIRC they didn't pursue it because state secrets would be divulged in discovery (or something like that). I agree it was BS from Mueller to grab headlines and to orgasmic Madddow. But I don't think DOJ threw it out. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (Ozpxd) 525
517 Charleston has 52 cases and...zero deaths.
So, of course the mayor closed the city down. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:00 PM (UWqZJ) Yeah, that's gonna be hard to walk back if McMaster dials it down a couple of weeks. Any pol who inflicts a shutdown at this point is a fool. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (H3ZEL) ========= McMaster keeps saying he's not closing the state down, and I believe him. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (UWqZJ) 526
Thanks Jane. What is his vision like in that eye?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (dzyR5) Great. He may need reading glasses, but no more prescription ones after his next surgery. They took out the prescription lens for that eye and replaced it with a clear one. He looks funny in the sunlight because the prescription lens darkens and the other one doesn't. He can't wait to get the other eye done. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (ptqGC) 527
498 So Trump leads Biden in Ohio and Pennsylvania?
Interesting. -------------------------- I don't see Cuomo flipping those states. So I guess losing with Cuomo reduces the embarrassment factor for Dems. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (dzyR5) Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (NiXyF) 529
I tried posting something and get an error.This is a test to see if my text is bad.
Posted by: JereyDevilRider at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (XEfn8) 530
Just out of curiosity, what would you do about a corrupt government that was sending billions of dollars of drugs into your country using that countries corrupt military in conjunction with their justice system and terror groups including FARC and Hezbollah? ------ Close the border. Build the wall. Hunt down and prosecute dealers who make it through. And stop intervening in foreign countries because it has never worked to control the drug trade and it never will. Columbia cleaned up its own damn mess, and VZ will have to do same. Also, just a thought - the US should clean up the illegitimate corruptocrat government in our own backyard before pissing and moaning about the one in our neighbor's. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (II2Y0) 531
430 After this is all over, my wife and I are going to Las Vegas and staying at a Trump casino.
And we're not Las Vegas people. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 26, 2020 11:58 AM (WEBkv) I think the Trump hotel in Vegas is one of the few that does not have a casino. Posted by: Cheriebebe at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (a4qVe) Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (EuPI/) 533
Cuomo is for real! What a powerhouse! Save us AC!!!
Posted by: No at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (PEGeO) 534
526 Thanks Jane. What is his vision like in that eye?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (dzyR5) Great. He may need reading glasses, but no more prescription ones after his next surgery. They took out the prescription lens for that eye and replaced it with a clear one. He looks funny in the sunlight because the prescription lens darkens and the other one doesn't. He can't wait to get the other eye done. --------------------- Sweet. Thanks. Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (dzyR5) 535
Why the F are the Subway system still running in NYC
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (dKiJG) === This is the biggest indicator to me that the donkey-communists screaming about the Chi-Com flu know it not that big a deal. or The donkey-communists really do hate their peopl..ah subjects. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (pw+jk) 536
i note that nanzi asked for the next bill to include strengthening OSHA.
because there's s so many OSHA violations associated with getting a fucking virus... Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 11:15 AM (8D42x) It's not what she's talking about, but if an employee gets covid-19 while on the job, it's a recordable incident against the employer. Posted by: Nobody at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (8zK8n) Not being obnoxious, is the regular flu recordable? is any other infection a recordable incident? i honestly don't know. Posted by: SturmToddler at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (8D42x) 537
Hint: The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana have almost nothing.
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en Of the 1053 US deaths, 681 are of unknown age (and slightly more of unknown gender), so the demographics tab may not be that useful, but it is nice to see things broken down to the county level. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (dzJ3R) 538
Read up on what the homefront was like during WW2.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (s9Eo Don't bother. It's a lost cause. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (dLLD6) 539
Hey, anyone here have cataract surgery? Is it difficult?
Posted by: Puddin Head --- Yes, two years ago. It was easy as pie. Just wore an eyepatch for maybe 8 hours. No big deal. No discomfort. No follow on issues. Oh, and I can now see! Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (Y4EXg) 540
511 One of the few GOOD aspects of the Coronavirus scare is that it gives the Feds the muscle and the nerve they need to shut down ALL illegal immigration and with it, to shut down most smuggling operations as well.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (trdmm) Yep. And after this, it's hard to imagine someone having the balls to support open borders. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (Tatvh) 541
Don't bother. It's a lost cause.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (dLLD6) Ah. Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (s9Eo8) 542
I'd still like to know the racial breakdown of who is in the Kung Flu grip.
I bet lots of people would be wondering why they lost their job when it was reported that 50%+ of cases were in Chinese families. Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (41rs/) 543
If residents of NYC are elite why would they elect a mayor who hates them and wants to destroy them?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (Uu+Jp) --- If you live in a penthouse apt you are elite. Everyone else is living in Wuhan on the Hudson. Posted by: BluesFish at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (gC4Ho) 544
>>Not to quibble Jack, but IIRC they didn't pursue it because state secrets would be divulged in discovery (or something like that).
No. He declined to prosecute because as many of us noted at the time there was ZERO evidence that the people indicted had any connection whatsoever to the Russian government. Yes, the DOJ declined to move forward with the case because of that. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (ZLI7S) 545
Interesting COVID map, Just Lily. West Virginia is surrounded by states with fatalities but they have none and very few cases. Makes you wonder what they're doing different.
Posted by: creeper at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (XxJt1) 546
Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work noticing a pattern Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (8fB/R) That all depends upon how you define "work", round eye! With our premium MELAMINE (TM) maintenance plan, our service force would have those devices purring like kittens (before we slay them to sale in our wet markets, of course)! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (pNxlR) 547
One of the items that shows up repeatedly among their scare-mongering is that "no one has a natural immunity" to this virus...blithely ignorant of the fact that no one really has a natural immunity to anything. Our immune systems are not a static device; they are on constant patrol, looking for invaders and fashioning defenses against them.
No one has a natural immunity to someone else's kidney being transplanted into them, but the immune system develops such a ferocious attack against it that the recipient is on immuno-therapy for the rest of their lives. They apparently did not learn this back in their high school biology classes. I can hear them now: "why do I have to learn this stuff? I'll never use it." Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (17+9D) 548
Just out of curiosity, what would you do about a corrupt government that
was sending billions of dollars of drugs into your country using that countries corrupt military in conjunction with their justice system and terror groups including FARC and Hezbollah? --- I don't know, but it'd certainly be less of a priority than executing the crowd that attempted to overthrow our government. Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (kOpft) 549
Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work
noticing a pattern Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (8fB/R) They only work on Chinese. And give a negative result. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (Ozpxd) 550
528 NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell Says He Has Coronavirus
Anymore it's like saying He has the flu... I'm sick of this... Should we advertise we have a cold.? Don't get me wrong I know it can be serious... But obviously not enough to shut the whole Country down... End of rant Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (5bxa0) 551
So when I drive by landscapers and roofers still operating in my neighborhood, should I continue to slow down and take notes and photos? Cause I'm doing my part.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (DY3v8) 552
444 It's not what she's talking about, but if an
employee gets covid-19 while on the job, it's a recordable incident against the employer. Posted by: Nobody at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (8zK8n) I am very familiar with OSHA regulations and there is no regulation that makes getting sick on the job from a disease a violation of OSHA regulations. Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (mpXpK) 553
Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work
noticing a pattern But they were really cheap! Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (dzJ3R) 554
Dow up 1200. How soon before msm switched back to only the rich benefit from stocks? When stocks are up only rich benefit. When theyre down everyone is hurting cuz 401k are destroyed.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (P6ZCq) 555
There are people here in the comments section who have written excellent speeches and individual responses that Trump or members of his administration could use.
Why aren't these people White House speech writers? Circumstances, life paths, the fact that some of our commenters couldn't live off of what a speechwriter makes. In this time of crisis, this misallocation of resources shouldn't stop the transfer of great ideas to the administration. Perhaps Ace could block off an easily accessible section where vetted responses and proposed speeches could be available for those who want to use them. If we should know anything by now, it's that the best brains are not in Washington. Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2020 12:12 PM (mrrpT) 556
Not to quibble Jack, but IIRC they didn't pursue it because state secrets would be divulged in discovery (or something like that).
I agree it was BS from Mueller to grab headlines and to orgasmic Madddow. But I don't think DOJ threw it out. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (Ozpxd) Mueller expected a plea bargain, but encountered defendants who said "let's go to trial." Since a) he had no case and b) the trial would open the USGov open to discovery (i.e. classified info) his people just kind of sat on the case. Main DOJ basically said "well, fuck THIS shit." Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (NiXyF) 557
jwest, and buried in that article was the fact that the staff had been complaining about shortages of supplies for a year. But Trump!!!
// Thanks for clarifying the issue of identified cases versus real. I don't comprendo science talk! Posted by: PJ at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (qlTN9) 558
Yes, two years ago. It was easy as pie. Just wore an eyepatch for maybe 8 hours. No big deal. No discomfort. No follow on issues.
Oh, and I can now see! Posted by: Tonypete --------------------------- Thanks. Was the eyepatch black like a Pirate? Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (dzyR5) 559
Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work
noticing a pattern Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (8fB/R) Who's raughing now? Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (imkrr) 560
Yes, two years ago. It was easy as pie. Just wore an
eyepatch for maybe 8 hours. No big deal. No discomfort. No follow on issues. Oh, and I can now see! Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (Y4EXg) You get to look like a pirate for eight hours! No Rick Wilson, though. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (ptqGC) 561
From Ace's sidebar:
"We need to make bullying not only acceptable again, but lauded as a character-building public service." Chris Rock had a nice comment on that, when he was speaking with Seinfeld in his episode of "Comedians in Cars.." Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (iuFgi) 562
Where is the DOJ presser?
Posted by: IrishEi at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (sGotD) Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (KxVoZ) 564
Think of it like this, the left was willing to shut down the economy of the entire frickin planet to try and stop Trump from winning in November, but it appears to have backfired on them and his approval is skyrocketing.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (JUOKG) 565
Costco has Charmin online, 1 30-pack per household, 4-5 day delivery. Our roll count is in the mid-20's, we're good so you all go for it.
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (9IkUJ) 566
Thanks. Was the eyepatch black like a Pirate?
Posted by: Puddin Head --- Sadly, no. Just a white gauze covering. I really wanted a black pirate one damnit! Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (Y4EXg) 567
Since the virus was born during Scorpio, and emerged during the penumbra of Capricorn, during the 3rd matriculation of the 9th cycle of Thutmose the Apparent, while the planet Uranus was hovering in the Cosmic Bat nebula , the virus will appear as a Giant Slor! for a period of 5 lunar cycles.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (DY3v oh please, you happy fun signs are ALWAYS blaming Scorpio for everything! Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (G546f) 568
It's not what she's talking about, but if an employee gets covid-19 while on the job, it's a recordable incident against the employer.
Posted by: Nobody at March 26, 2020 11:59 AM (8zK8n) Yes. To be used against Trump this summer. It's not because she cares one way or the other. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (Ozpxd) Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S) 570
Prager talking how Sweden has gone against the worlds methods and has kept everything open, commuter trains, schools, businesses.
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (ZCEU2) 571
Doctors are exempt from the shut down
Posted by: lin-duh at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (UUBmN) 572
"Wonder why our local hospital cancelled my colonoscopy I was supposed to have today?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 11:32 AM (mpXpK) ============================== The word I'm getting from nurses working in one of the largest state hospitals in NC is that the staff working in wards built primarily for elective surgery procedures are listening to crickets. No patients." ---------------------------------------------------------------- In my Mid-Atlantic very blue state, my ex wife was scheduled without a problem for a diagnostic test (non-emergency) within a week's time at the hospital. She wasn't feeling well Tuesday so her doc simply rescheduled it for about 10 days later without a problem. Posted by: RM at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (U3LtS) 573
Basically, you have to include all of the people infected, not just the ones we know about. Since we're only testing people who show up at the doctor with symptoms, we're missing those who never bothered going to the doctor, and those who had the virus, but never got symptoms. Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (CAJOC) === Correct You have become "One of Consequence" with that post. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (pw+jk) 574
453 Hey, anyone here have cataract surgery? Is it difficult?
_________________ My mom had it done on both eyes. She said it was easy and painless. Her vision was much improved afterwards. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (k4dH2) 575
Yep. And after this, it's hard to imagine someone having the balls to support open borders.
I think we've seen that the press never follows up. They will treat this as if it never happened. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (jOEDM) 576
564 Think of it like this, the left was willing to shut down the economy of the entire frickin planet to try and stop Trump from winning in November, but it appears to have backfired on them and his approval is skyrocketing.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (JUOKG) Has it been mentioned that the media is stupid? Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (Uu+Jp) 577
OT:
Junior is playing The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past for the first time. He's never played an open ended game like this, so he's on a curve right now. But he just keeps playing. I just have to keep telling him to actually read the words instead of skipping through dialogue boxes. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (UWqZJ) 578
I'm seeing the swooning happening across the nation, from people who are seeing him for the first time at the press conferences and from all of his free time on CNN and they think he's an impressive guy who is showing great leadership and cares for his state, and they wish he was their governor (because no other governor in the nation cares for his/her state, apparently). These are also people who think that everything should be locked down nationwide and the feds should be nationalizing means of production to get emergency equipment made. Posted by: Vendette ======== The MSM are giving him live, uninterrupted, end-to-end coverage of his pressers. Aren't any other governors doing pressers? They've been doing FAR more coverage of him than they have of Biden. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (G51Gf) 579
No. He declined to prosecute because as many of us noted at the time there was ZERO evidence that the people indicted had any connection whatsoever to the Russian government.
Yes, the DOJ declined to move forward with the case because of that. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (ZLI7S) I stand corrected. Again, as the saying goes: You can indict a ham sandwich. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (Ozpxd) 580
Of the 1053 US deaths, 681 are of unknown age (and slightly more of unknown gender), so the demographics tab may not be that useful, but it is nice to see things broken down to the county level. Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (dzJ3R) Hmmm, statees with big shithole (and sanctuary) cities hardest hit? Shocker! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (pNxlR) 581
By Christmas are we still going to be on a tp shortage?
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (ZCEU2) 582
Christopher Diak is a first-year M.Div. candidate at Harvard Divinity School and an administrator in the Forum for Growth and Innovation at Harvard Business School.
I read that as Christopher Diaf. Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (EuPI/) 583
519 So we're not gonna die?
Posted by: freaked, I'm starting to think you people are not cynical enough at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (Tnijr) Quit trying to blow sunshine up everyone's skirt. Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (mrrpT) 584
NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell Says He Has Coronavirus
Anymore it's like saying He has the flu... I'm sick of this... Should we advertise we have a cold.? Posted by: It's me donna I have gas. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (Vddbf) 585
576 564 Think of it like this, the left was willing to shut down the economy of the entire frickin planet to try and stop Trump from winning in November, but it appears to have backfired on them and his approval is skyrocketing.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (JUOKG) Has it been mentioned that the media is stupid? Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (Uu+Jp) I've said that this whole thing is going to blow over by 1 May 2020. There is nothing that is happening right now that is moving me off that prediction. Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (iuFgi) Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (ptqGC) 587
Interesting COVID map, Just Lily. West Virginia is
surrounded by states with fatalities but they have none and very few cases. Makes you wonder what they're doing different. Posted by: creeper at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (XxJt1) In the case of WV's neighbor Virginia, the vast majority of the cases/fatalities are in the densely-populated areas of the DC suburbs, the Norfolk area, and the Richmond area. Last I saw, most of the the state west of I-95 hasn't seen much activity if at all, so that's a buffer for WV right there. Plus it likely also helps that WV doesn't have the urban density issue that a number of other states have. Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (nRNOc) 588
Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work
// They needed another one two hours later! Posted by: PJ at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (qlTN9) 589
581 - is that going to take filling every house with 100 rolls?
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (ZCEU2) 590
NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell Says He Has Coronavirus
Anymore it's like saying He has the flu... I'm sick of this... Should we advertise we have a cold.? Posted by: It's me donna I have gas. Posted by: rickb223 Whoops. Not anymore. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (Vddbf) 591
570 Prager talking how Sweden has gone against the worlds methods and has kept everything open, commuter trains, schools, businesses.
yay Sweden! all that was needed was travel/air ban and moderate social distancing/increased sanitation it will be interesting to see how they do. am glad they went against the grain! Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (j9HX3) 592
Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work
Mislabeled , those are soil test kits. So soly. _China import-export admin Posted by: runner at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (zr5Kq) 593
Just out of curiosity, what would you do about a corrupt government that was sending billions of dollars of drugs into your country using that countries corrupt military in conjunction with their justice system and terror groups including FARC and Hezbollah?
Venezuela? Mexico? Any one of several Central American countries? Pretty broad net you've cast there. Not that it isn't a valid question. I'd just point out that the DoJ has already demonstrated their priorities are not necessarily those in the best interest of the country. If you don't have uniform code of laws and penalties that are applied equally amongst your own citizens, it's gonna be a hard row to hoe by claiming you can enforce your laws on people outside your country. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (Xesvh) 594
These aren't newfound powers. These powers have
always existed under states of emergency. Read up on what the homefront was like during WW2. Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:08 PM (s9Eo Read up on the mayor of New Orleans newfound powers declaration. Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (mpXpK) 595
I know this is off topic but is Senile Joe still a kind and decent man, now that his dementia seems to becoming ever more apparent?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (Uu+Jp) 596
As of today, I am self-unemployed.
Posted by: freaked, I'm starting to think you people are not cynical enough at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (Tnijr) 597
Yes, the DOJ declined to move forward with the case because of that.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:11 PM (ZLI7S) But I do think there is a difference between declining to prosecute and "oh shit, they called our bluff." One is face saving. The other is - we was wrong. Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (Ozpxd) 598
FWIW now is an excellent time to avoid hospitals - hotbeds of infection!
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (G546f) 599
The best thing to come out of this shitshow is the shuttering of universities. Keep them closed forever.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (EuPI/) 600
>>No. He declined to prosecute because as many of us noted at the time there was ZERO evidence that the people indicted had any connection whatsoever to the Russian government
IIRC, the company Mueller's team pursued didn't even exist at the time of the alleged crimes. The plan was indict a bunch of Russians to get numbers on the board, knowing that they wouldn't dare step inside of the US to defend themselves. Unfortunately for Team Mueller, their lawyer *did* show up to court and caught the Mueller prosecutor off guard -- she had done no preparation for the trial and asked for a delay. The whole thing fell apart when the Russian defendants called their bluff. Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (bDqIh) 601
It seems like all the cool Hollywood kids are getting Wuhan flu. It's like a status symbol or something.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (ptqGC) 602
They've been doing FAR more coverage of him than they have of Biden. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (G51Gf) YOU CAN'T KEEP JOEY "THE PENETRATOR" OFF THE AIRWAVES! ** breaks through wall like the Kool-Aid pitcher ** Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (pNxlR) 603
Makes you wonder what they're doing different
WV is decidedly NOT a state full of "jet setters" I'm renaming this the Jet Set Flu Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (j9HX3) 604
McMaster keeps saying he's not closing the state down, and I believe him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 26, 2020 12:09 PM (UWqZJ) Yeah, me too. If he were going to do it he would already have done so. I think shutting down the restaurants and the bars was his way of following the advice from the feds and I don't think he's going any farther and I for one am glad. Just hoping they decide to reopen schools earlier than April 30 but since most schools will have spring break in April it's probably a wash anyway. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (H3ZEL) 605
For your info. The Neighbor is a nurse and I asked her if they had a bunch of people on respirators in the hospital she works at.. She said not one, but they are preparing for it... I live in a County with about 500 thousand people
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (5bxa0) 606
>>I stand corrected. Again, as the saying goes: You can indict a ham sandwich.
If you ever want a laugh read the transcripts of communications the between the courts, the lawyers for the trolls and Team Mueller. This one lawyer for the trolls absolutely destroyed them and blew holes a mile wide in their case. The whole thing was a joke from day 1. Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (ZLI7S) Posted by: Some Chinaman at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (flINI) 608
599 The best thing to come out of this shitshow is the shuttering of universities. Keep them closed forever.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (EuPI/) But what about the parties? Posted by: Caliban at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (QE8X6) 609
So Trump slays the Lung Chow Mien Dragon, then resurrects the economy, then its time for Indictment Spring? Is there any other bullshit left to throw at him?
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (dzyR5) 610
Basically, you have to include all of the people infected, not just the ones we know about. Since we're only testing people who show up at the doctor with symptoms, we're missing those who never bothered going to the doctor, and those who had the virus, but never got symptoms.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 26, 2020 12:07 PM (CAJOC) +++++++++ Yes. This is why, if we really want to be able to estimate the denominator with any degree of accuracy, there needs to be well-constructed random sampling and, to be very complete, equally well-constructed random sampling to check for presence of antibodies (if the rumors I have read that such a test now exists are true). Otherwise, we have a very accurate numerator with a wild guess for a denominator. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (e/H31) 611
596 As of today, I am self-unemployed.
Posted by: freaked, == sorry freaked don't suppose you can go on Unemployment? Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (G546f) 612
FWIW now is an excellent time to avoid hospitals - hotbeds of infection!
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (G546f) True ... always Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (5bxa0) 613
601 It seems like all the cool Hollywood kids are getting Wuhan flu. It's like a status symbol or something.
it's got my spidey sense tingling feels very agitprop Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (j9HX3) 614
601 It seems like all the cool Hollywood kids are getting Wuhan flu. It's like a status symbol or something. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (ptqGC) They are "Wuhan compliant". They'll get commemorative tats for it next. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:19 PM (pNxlR) 615
The best thing to come out of this shitshow is the shuttering of universities. Keep them closed forever
NOT LIBERTY! which has now rocketed to the top of my Universities of Choice Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 26, 2020 12:19 PM (j9HX3) 616
>>IIRC, the company Mueller's team pursued didn't even exist at the time of the alleged crimes.
>>The plan was indict a bunch of Russians to get numbers on the board, knowing that they wouldn't dare step inside of the US to defend themselves. >>Unfortunately for Team Mueller, their lawyer *did* show up to court and caught the Mueller prosecutor off guard -- she had done no preparation for the trial and asked for a delay. The whole thing fell apart when the Russian defendants called their bluff. yep Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:19 PM (ZLI7S) 617
I really wanted a black pirate one damnit!
- You can buy pirate eye patches at Rite Aid. Well, not anymore but back when we had an economy. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 12:19 PM (+y/Ru) 618
I've said that this whole thing is going to blow over by 1 May 2020. There is nothing that is happening right now that is moving me off that prediction. Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (iuFgi) I'm predicting Dow 30,000 in August. Democrats and Partisan Media hardest hit. Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 12:19 PM (NiXyF) 619
nood, yall
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (X/Pw5) 620
>>The best thing to come out of this shitshow is the shuttering of universities. Keep them closed forever.
Also the public schools. A friend figured out why they are likely so against virtual classrooms during the shelter in place: this takes away their biggest negotiating tactic - strikes. Public schools could easily switch to online classes during a strike and never miss the striking teachers. lol. Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (bDqIh) 621
This is the biggest indicator to me that the donkey-communists screaming about the Chi-Com flu know it not that big a deal.
or The donkey-communists really do hate their peopl..ah subjects. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 12:10 PM (pw+jk) Just 2 weeks ago the NYC Mayor and Fucking Head of Department of Health was encouraging people to attend parades and eat out. TWO WEEKS AGO Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (dKiJG) 622
563 Spain bought 640,000 testing kits from China. They don't work
But each one came with eggroll! Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 26, 2020 12:14 PM (KxVoZ) China's QC in the best of times is shit. Now, you might as well be buying snake oil off the back of a wagon. Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (QrImU) Posted by: Ha at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (fNWtj) 624
NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell Says He Has Coronavirus
Anymore it's like saying He has the flu... I'm sick of this... Should we advertise we have a cold.? Posted by: It's me donna I have gas. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (Vddbf) I have a zit. Where's my fame and fortune? Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (kOpft) 625
FWIW now is an excellent time to avoid hospitals - hotbeds of infection! Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (G546f) === Hospitals always have been. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (pw+jk) 626
Ace up
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (mpXpK) 627
The Theodore Roosevelt is heading to Guam to get the entire ship tested for corona virus, they have 26 on board that have tested positive.
That literally takes out our only Carrier in the West/I.O. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2020 12:20 PM (JUOKG) 628
581 By Christmas are we still going to be on a tp shortage?
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (ZCEU2) Will make gift giving easier. You get TP! You get TP! And YOU get TP! Posted by: Tami at March 26, 2020 12:21 PM (cF8AT) 629
Chance of rain the next 3 days
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2020 12:21 PM (ZCEU2) 630
Why the F are the Subway system still running in NYC
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 26, 2020 12:06 PM (dKiJG) Well I am not defending it, but that is who many of the Police, Fire, and other essential workers get to work. Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2020 12:21 PM (nRk/c) 631
It seems like all the cool Hollywood kids are getting Wuhan flu. It's like a status symbol or something.
And they probably all have the same friendship ankle bracelet to go with it. (Ugh. Now I'm thinking of Joe's cringey bracelet relationship with Obama) Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2020 12:21 PM (Zo1XC) 632
550 528 NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell Says He Has Coronavirus
Anymore it's like saying He has the flu... I'm sick of this... Should we advertise we have a cold.? Don't get me wrong I know it can be serious... But obviously not enough to shut the whole Country down... End of rant Posted by: It's me donna so much this. either it's deadly serious so just shut up and hopefully recover,or stop making announcements for every single positive test. it can't be both. gawd it's another 6 degrees of separation cool factor. Posted by: blackdogs at March 26, 2020 12:21 PM (NAbCm) 633
I have piles ... of paper on our kitchen table! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2020 12:21 PM (pNxlR) 634
I know this is off topic but is Senile Joe still a kind and decent man, now that his dementia seems to becoming ever more apparent?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (Uu+Jp) --------- Well there was that whole flaming skull rapey thing from yesterday so... Posted by: jhawk90 at March 26, 2020 12:22 PM (9IkUJ) 635
Anymore it's like saying He has the flu... I'm sick of this... Should we advertise we have a cold.?
Posted by: It's me donna I have gas. Posted by: rickb223 Whoops. Not anymore. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2020 12:16 PM (Vddbf) I love this place. Well, not the **smell** so much. But still . . . Posted by: filbert at March 26, 2020 12:22 PM (NiXyF) 636
I know this is off topic but is Senile Joe still a kind and decent man
- Yes, well, in bearded Spock universe anyway. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2020 12:22 PM (+y/Ru) 637
Who's raughing now?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2020 12:13 PM (imkrr) ********* Will see who Raughs Rast Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 12:22 PM (i0Vo7) 638
Read up on the mayor of New Orleans newfound powers declaration.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (mpXpK) I assume you are referring to them rounding up guns during Katrina? Were there ever any consequences for that? Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:23 PM (s9Eo8) 639
25 Its my birthday and I'm not dead yet. Not getting on the cart.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 26, 2020 11:05 AM Mine too! Same here! Posted by: Steven Tyler at March 26, 2020 12:23 PM (Do5/p) Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 26, 2020 12:23 PM (AwI0L) 641
1h
BREAKING: We've received a Major Disaster Declaration for New Jersey. We will now have access to greater essential federal support to help us through the #COVID19 emergency. I'm grateful to @realDonaldTrump, @VP, and @fema for their support of our response & recovery efforts. Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at March 26, 2020 12:25 PM (i0Vo7) 642
596 As of today, I am self-unemployed.
Posted by: freaked, == sorry freaked don't suppose you can go on Unemployment? Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 26, 2020 12:18 PM (G546f) With the relief bill that got through the Senate, it is very likely freaked could, through the end of the year. Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 12:25 PM (nRNOc) 643
Wot's a Pay Wall $4 an hour or is it like a Glass ceiling. Try the Waitress I'll be tripping all week........................Gabba Goo backordered. Posted by: saf at March 26, 2020 12:25 PM (5IHGB) Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2020 12:27 PM (Tatvh) 645
And the troll farm prosecution was done by Mueller not main DOJ. Main DOJ threw the case out a couple weeks ago not that anyone seemed to care.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2020 12:05 PM (ZLI7S) Both the "cases" I listed were or are a waste of time and tax payers money - posturing happens but let's not pretend that something was/is ever going to happen in either of these things. You know, people have a right to feel that certain important justice matters aren't garnering the DOJs attention when they see these other things occupying their time. Its rather insulting to suggest they shouldn't have those concerns. The DOJ finds a way to speed cases into court when they want - Mueller's prosecutions were handed over to the DOJ early last summer, it took them practically a whole year to drop that dumbass Russian troll farm case and only when the judge wouldn't let them get around discovery. Posted by: Boswell at March 26, 2020 12:27 PM (32YRo) 646
578
I'm seeing the swooning happening across the nation, from people who are seeing him for the first time at the press conferences and from all of his free time on CNN and they think he's an impressive guy who is showing great leadership and cares for his state, and they wish he was their governor (because no other governor in the nation cares for his/her state, apparently). These are also people who think that everything should be locked down nationwide and the feds should be nationalizing means of production to get emergency equipment made. Posted by: Vendette ======== The MSM are giving him live, uninterrupted, end-to-end coverage of his pressers. Aren't any other governors doing pressers? They've been doing FAR more coverage of him than they have of Biden. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 26, 2020 12:15 PM (G51Gf) Saw him last Tuesday, when they shut the casinos down, on Fox; on and on and on you'd have thought he was Musso fricking lini. And, nothing personal to NY. But I don't care any more about NY than I do Cleveland or any other city. Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2020 12:32 PM (ZQR/T) 647
I don't think they can figure out coding either.
Posted by: Sapwolf at March 26, 2020 12:35 PM (nuv3n) 648
I always say to folks who say it's OK there are no mines in the mine field and we are safe to walk across, "Well if your right we can be happy, but, what if you are wrong?' Well then we are dead.I play it safe if you don't mind.
Posted by: obsidian at March 26, 2020 12:37 PM (7+yqP) 649
I thought they voted themselves "automatic" raises several years ago.
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2020 12:36 PM (X/Pw5) There hasn't been a legislated increase in base pay since 2009. However, they are eligible for the annual federal COLA if there is one, although Congress can pass a joint resolution saying, "No thanks," which has also been done since 2009. Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 12:42 PM (nRNOc) 650
Crud, wrong thread.
Posted by: Vendette at March 26, 2020 12:44 PM (nRNOc) 651
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Read up on the mayor of New Orleans newfound powers declaration. Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:17 PM (mpXpK) I assume you are referring to them rounding up guns during Katrina? Were there ever any consequences for that? Posted by: ghbucky at March 26, 2020 12:23 PM (s9Eo I am referring to this. https://tinyurl.com/rkfqkhy Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2020 12:44 PM (mpXpK) 652
Channeling Ray Donovan, to which office do we go to get our economy back??
Posted by: Mookie at March 26, 2020 12:47 PM (3vIkC) 653
Everyone trying to figure out the stats. Has anyone thought why these stats are so muddy and inconsistent?
Take a guess. Posted by: Sooner at March 26, 2020 12:52 PM (Fs5vw) 654
8 "The MSM wants to destroy Trump. Any actual facts that get in way are either downplayed or ignored completely."
They were always hoping for that SPECIAL victim they REALLY want, weren't they? Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 26, 2020 01:25 PM (46deH) 655
If Dr. Anthony S. Spaghetti cannot provide current statics on the regular seasonal "flu" death rate or infections I doubt his rants that covid19 is Ten Times as lethal as the flu. Come on doc Spaghetti give us the regular flu deaths as of this date or get off the can and off the TV spots. If I were Trump I would relieve Dr. Spaghetti of his position on the White House Corona virus Task Force!
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The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
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Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings) George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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