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The Morning Rant
I'm old enough to remember that during the Cold War years, our media had developed the annoying habit of presenting the "news" precisely the way the USSR would want them to. You could tune to English language broadcasts on shortwave radio from Radio Havana and Radio Moscow and hear the exact same take that you could read in the NY Times or ABC News. It was always so tediously predictable: boo Reagan, he's a bad guy, he's insane, he's a war-monger, the Russians want peace so let's give them everything they want, etc. That whiny-ass Sting tune from the 80s, Russians, captures this phenomenon perfectly, only he's doing it ironically. If the KGB *paid* Sting to write that crap song, it wouldn't be any different than it actually is. That was then, this is now. Trump is being vociferously attacked for calling a virus that orignated in China a Chinese virus. My favorite line is, it's not a Chinese virus, it's a human virus. A lot of social media journalists and other Trump haters are working very hard carrying the ChiCom's water. In fact, there's not a dime's worth of difference between our garbage MSM's coverage of the Wuhan Virus and China's Xinhua News Agency or Global Times right now. Back in the 80s, it all revolved arounding hating Reagan. And now, it all revolves around hating Trump. Even if it means aiding those who are trying to destroy us. Just once, I would like to see the MSM actually supporting America instead of acting as propagandists for the other side. But some things never change. (h/t John Hayward)
Focusing On What's *Really* Important:
It’s outrageous that selfish bigots with life-threatening infections are displacing stunning and brave trans people waiting for cosmetic surgery. We need a moratorium on treating straight white cismales who have covid-19 until this injustice is addressed. https://t.co/jOuXcwG0Od
— Ashanti Van Buren (@AshantiVanBuren) March 20, 2020
The Conserver of Conservatism Keeps It Classy:
#BeInfected https://t.co/TZD35uaEvq
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) March 19, 2020
And Now Here Comes the "I Was Just Joking" Walk-Back:
ANYONE who thought I was wishing COVID on Melania is fuckwit.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) March 19, 2020
You know full well it was a riff on "BeBest" and it's utter failure in the face of her husband's continued role as Global Troll in Chief and National Bully.
That said, fap to your fake-ass outrage all you like.
To the Rescue!
Who Dis:
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Photo 7 (busty!)
For the 'Ettes:
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Wednesday's celebs: The quintessential 20s flapper chick, Louise Brooks, who starred in the classic film from 1929, Pandora's Box with Francis Lederer. Brooks' movie career fizzled during the 1930s and she eventually slid into alcoholism and prostitution. She had some success as a movie writer when her films were rediscovered in the 1950s.
Today's Edition Of The Morning Rant Is Brought To You By:
Cookie recipe here.Salted Caramel Stuffed Chocolate Chip Cookies pic.twitter.com/F9zESGPFNo
— Land of Food (@landoffacts) March 18, 2020
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: nurse ratched at March 20, 2020 11:09 AM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:09 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:09 AM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: AltonJackson
and remember that we are not descended from fearful men
at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (cuot+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (YPS70)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (Ejm1K)
I'll fetch the otters
Posted by: AltonJackson
and remember that we are not descended from fearful men
at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (cuot+)
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Shh...
It's supposed to be a surprise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 20, 2020 11:11 AM (FQrF4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:11 AM (tvEuY)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:11 AM (Y4EXg)
Uggh. "Kung Fu Panda" with Jack Black. Uggh.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 20, 2020 11:11 AM (pNxlR)
Posted by: CN at March 20, 2020 11:12 AM (ONvIw)
I never thought of Pam Grier as being particularly beautiful, but she was what they used to call a "handsome" woman; pleasant enough and someone you admired and respected.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:13 AM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at March 20, 2020 11:13 AM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 20, 2020 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2020 11:13 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (pS94+)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (sLVyZ)
Posted by: josephistan at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (Izzlo)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (tvEuY)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (88+cf)
This is like life-saving breast implants.
If you're gonna be put in a position of prioritizing trans surgery, it should be done on a gurney in the parking lot with a Sawzall.
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (8erNz)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (tvEuY)
Ronald Reagan with full dementia was lights ahead of Biden in intelligence and common sense.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (pS94+)
How's the east side of the state?
I went for a walk downtown during my lunch break yesterday. It was surreal. Nothing was open. no stores, or restaurants, no coffee shops, the Pike Place Market was shut down. The Aquarium and the waterfront were shut down.
It's only a matter of time before people start losing their shit and something bad happens. like a shooting.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (WqPYg)
Oops, Godwined. Better self-isolate.
Posted by: a.moron at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (tu3iY)
Posted by: josephistan at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (Izzlo)
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Based on the picture though, 75% of that is hair.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 20, 2020 11:10 AM (Ejm1K)
Dr M'Benga.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:13 AM (KZzsI)
Right. There's a difference between "beautiful" and "sexy". Lots of overlap, of course, but a woman doesn't have to be drop-dead gorgeous to be sexy. I think Pam is *extremely* sexy.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (juqNl)
Cuomo just offered to fund equipment purchase and start up of PPE supplies and pay a premium to purchase the products.
They are going to get fucked properly.
Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (mrrpT)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)
Oh, yes, delayed "transition" surgeries really are the cruelest burden of this shitshow! How stupid of us to forget!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (pNxlR)
Posted by: dantesed at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (88xKn)
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Captain Ned at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (XIfux)
Posted by: eleven at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (Qf83p)
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (WqPYg)
I always bless the folks that have the 'skip directly to recipe' button on the page.
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (L3Rsz)
I'm not saying that I encourage a very large man to show up at that asshole's house and introduce his head to the business end of a baseball bat. . .
But I am saying that I would certainly spring bail money for anybody who was so inclined.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (PO/+3)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (hYcqw)
https://tinyurl.com/rvd6agn
CBC, Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng lab removal article:
https://tinyurl.com/uk6msw4
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (WrOkn)
Posted by: Vanya at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (ioTA8)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (sLVyZ)
There aren't even enough people on the street to manage a decent mugging career.
Around here basically each homeless gets a BART car to themselves.
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (8erNz)
"Mr. Khrushchev says he will bury you, I don't subscribe to that point of view."
Listen you Harkonnen scum I don't care what you 'feel' reality says other wise.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:17 AM (tvEuY)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 20, 2020 11:17 AM (DY3v8)
Posted by: JT at March 20, 2020 11:17 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: Emmie at March 20, 2020 11:17 AM (ouBhA)
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:17 AM (8erNz)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (juqNl)
+++++++++++++
Damn straight. Especially #6.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (hYcqw)
It's literally inconceivable that this is happening.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (FVrDO)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ch6++)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: eleven at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (Qf83p)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (pS94+)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (FQrF4)
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I hope this person was being ironic.
I hope.
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Captain Ned at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (XIfux)
Ding ding! Winner!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (juqNl)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)
Agreed. Probably one of the best actors ever to appear on Star Trek; I think only Nimoy had the chops to go scene-for-scene with him. It was a shame he's only really known for Blacula and Scream, Blacula, Scream.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
Is there a moose?? There needs to be a Moose, or it's not official.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (90T4r)
Next time some reporter says it's a human virus, Trump should wheel out a globe and ask them to point to human on it.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 20, 2020 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
________
Isn't there a Human Province in China?
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Rest Stop Glory Hole - still open for business! at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Omega Kid, O-Positive at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: redridinghood at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (wiXsO)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (ykYG2)
They'd have to pull his head out of his ass first, and there's no guarantee on which end the brain will be in.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (SchxB)
I'm up to here with their nasty, evil bullshit.
Yeah, I'm in a mood today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (FQrF4)
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A window into the mindset of the trans movement.
Literally nothing is more important to them than trans issues. Literally nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
Stay home New Yorkers! They did get 48h notice
Posted by: CN at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (FVrDO)
So if some restaurant says they're serving human food, relax! It's just orange chicken!
Posted by: Ted K. at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (xPYsj)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 20, 2020 11:17 AM (DY3v
Yes, now is the time to focus on the really important stuff, like how calling it a Chinese virus is racist.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (juqNl)
https://tinyurl.com/u4gag2g
As he wonders will we see more suicides from being bankrupt and broken by a 2nd Great Depression than possible Wuhan Flu deaths?
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (ZCEU2)
I always bless the folks that have the 'skip directly to recipe' button on the page.
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (L3Rsz)
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Not only the pictures, but they all seem to have a long story they want to tell before getting to the recipe.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (CAJOC)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
Means us here in New England are trapped. Can't go anywhere by land without traveling either through New York or Canada.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (kUmUV)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (l4C/z)
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (cfSLd)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (WrOkn)
Raised eyebrows, eh? And they just let her do it and delayed their response until it was too late to stop it.
Posted by: Emmie at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (ouBhA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (tvEuY)
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (Eicbe)
I still have some condoms . . .
Posted by: Leonardo DiCaprio at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (ykYG2)
What a nightmare this is becoming. I don't know what kind of spike we'll see in virus deaths, but I'd be surprised if we don't also see a spike in suicide deaths too, because people are getting very stressed by this shit.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (k4dH2)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
+++++++++
Out of curiosity because I haven't been following the NY outbreak closely, where is the problem? Is it downstate only, or is it also upstate/central/southern tier? Because if it is only downstate (which would not surprise me), then most of the state (geographically) is being punished because of it.
I mention this only because it is a smaller-scale version of what a national lockdown that these governors will be agitating for will be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (5IbVn)
Posted by: BluesFish at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (qXLLv)
The President needs to invoke the Posse Comitatas Act.
Send troops into the states to seize control governmental apparatuses.
Order the states to open for business.
Use military bases for diagnosis triage and quarantine.
Get control of this situation because you have blue state and some red state governors issuing ELE orders that are going to crater this nation.
Over literally less than 200 deaths.
Madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (90T4r)
The first mention of delaying the election in November and the coronavirus will become a complete nothingburger
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (YPS70)
Hi nurse! I sent my husband a picture of the parking garage this morning. It's always packed but now it's about 1/3 full. Flights are going out with less than 10 people on them. I'm going out to the commissary this weekend, hopefully they've restocked. Last week there were bare shelves everywhere.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FQrF4)
Blacula was pretty badass, though
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (o2MD2)
I hope.
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (Eicbe)
It is definitely sarcasm. "Stunning and brave" is the tell.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (PO/+3)
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM
Moose is closed, too. Absence of a moose out front should've told you.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (ejd/p)
You're hungry for more virus half an hour laterI'llbe hereallweek.
Posted by: eleven at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (Qf83p)
Posted by: Grizzly Bears at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (tvEuY)
I'm up to here with their nasty, evil bullshit.
Yeah, I'm in a mood today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (ptqGC)
++++++++++++++
Why does Legend need a four-mouthed wife? Does he have four johnsons?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (hYcqw)
Well you can leave by boat but you would need to know someone with a boat.
I accept gold.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Emmie at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (ouBhA)
Maybe they paid people off. Lieber got 50k a month and 158k "living expenses". They should have been hanged, not allowed to leave
Posted by: CN at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
PA is supposed to follow suit by 8:00 tonight I believe.
Anyone here who didn't read JJ's link to how CNN treated Obama's swine flu outbreak, vs. the Yellow Peril, needs to read it stat. After the gorilla, of course.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (L3Rsz)
I hope French, Goldberg, et al are proud to have him as one of their brothers in arms.
Folks on the left are fond of demanding that all conservatives must own anything that someone on the right says, or at the very least actively and publicly disavow it.
Anything, Jonah, David? Crickets?
Posted by: RM at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (U3LtS)
THIS IS MADNESS!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (FVrDO)
Just came home with a two week supply of cat food. Thank goodness.
This is now a fake crisis to crash the economy. More convinced than ever.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (pS94+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (hYcqw)
Dammit. Even my fingers are angry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (87EdW)
It's been located in a number of places around the state but NYC and some of the surrounding areas like New Rochelle are the real hot spots right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (ZLI7S)
"It's a cookbook!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (tvEuY)
Hunan...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (pS94+)
and the theme songs! "Coffy is the Color of your Skin...." (yes, that's how it began)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (V2Yro)
A little guy like that, I seriously doubt it. He's the guy that only talks like that when in a crowd of his friends or with bodyguards, smirking behind them at you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (KZzsI)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (ZCEU2)
That's nice. He tears down conservatives over what they say--he's become, as far as I can see--a standard liberal and intentions aren't allowed--because their FUCKING PSYCHIC!
Conservatives don't get a second chance, asshole. Don't expect one from us.
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (Eicbe)
I'm up to here with their nasty, evil bullshit.
Yeah, I'm in a mood today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (ptqGC)
++++++++++++++
Why does Legend need a four-mouthed wife? Does he have four johnsons?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (hYcqw)
I saw that, and went right to Rule 34.
Posted by: Roy at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (ABjxW)
"It's a cookbook!"
Posted by: Anna Puma
It's a community service booklet!
"101 Ways To Serve Your Fellow Man"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (sLVyZ)
THIS IS MADNESS!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (FVrDO)
Just came home with a two week supply of cat food. Thank goodness.
This is now a fake crisis to crash the economy. More convinced than ever.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (pS94+)
That is what I think too.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (90T4r)
Sucks, because after the blizzard we had, this weekend would have been AWESOME.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (Uu+Jp)
...
Get control of this situation because you have blue state and some red state governors issuing ELE orders that are going to crater this nation.
...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
++++++++++++++
What is an "ELE order?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (hYcqw)
Or are we just going with an attempt by the left to seize the Senate?
Maybe look at the Dem gov of NC too since he would appoint any replacement for Burr.
Nah?
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (fNWtj)
Greenland. Think about it!
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (CDGwz)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (o2MD2)
Left my cash in the bank in a simple savings account, while I pondered the market and studied possible investment strategies.
Paralysis by analysis.
Cash. A goodly sum, at that.
/fiscal
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (L3Rsz)
Al Roker died?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (ptqGC)
I accept gold.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ZLI7S)
You planning to overland that boat up here? We have a lake where the other side is either New York or Canada, and a river where the other side is New Hampshire.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (kUmUV)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (ch6++)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (gd9RK)
Agreed. Probably one of the best actors ever to appear on Star Trek; I think only Nimoy had the chops to go scene-for-scene with him. It was a shame he's only really known for Blacula and Scream, Blacula, Scream.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Demetrius and the Gladiators
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (aKsyK)
That's nice. He tears down conservatives over what they say--he's become, as far as I can see--a standard liberal and intentions aren't allowed--because their FUCKING PSYCHIC!
Conservatives don't get a second chance, asshole. Don't expect one from us.
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (Eicbe)
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That's his ex post facto excuse. If he had meant that originally, he would have made mention of the #BeBest slogan.
Instead he just made #BeInfected because that's what he actually wants.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (zZbCU)
"Because of the strained relationship between the two countries, and this case at the lab, Chinese-Canadian researchers and academics are starting to worry they may be singled out and targeted, Wang said.
"Certain assumptions are made or their loyalty to Canada is questioned in any way. And as multicultural as we are in Canada, we don't want to see that." "
https://tinyurl.com/y5lmdnx5
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (WrOkn)
https://brrr.money/
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (MRjKr)
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (kgQKM)
The film Undercover Brother was a great send up and homage to those films. Lots of fun.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (KZzsI)
You have BETRAYED the conservative cause to join the media's constant, ubiquitous de-rigor slur of conservatives.
FOAD.
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (Eicbe)
No, that would be inside information!
Posted by: Congress at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (CDGwz)
Well you can leave by boat but you would need to know someone with a boat.
I accept gold.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ZLI7S)
Would we get lost if we go with you?
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (L3Rsz)
William Marshall was one of my favorite black actors, I wish he'd gotten
more work. Awesome voice, great presence, always entertaining.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)
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I'm reading Sydney Poitier's "The Measure of a Man: A Spiritual Autobiography" right now. Very bright guy. He's still young and a Lefty (as young blacks back then were wont to be) but had tremendous personal virtue, dignity, and principles.
I'm hoping as I hear him get older he becomes less politically radical with increasing wisdom. Nonetheless, a very interesting young life to this point.
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (WqPYg)
We haven't even started The panic
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (E+OcO)
The President needs to invoke the Posse Comitatas Act.
Send troops into the states to seize control governmental apparatuses.
Order the states to open for business.
Use military bases for diagnosis triage and quarantine.
Get control of this situation because you have blue state and some red state governors issuing ELE orders that are going to crater this nation.
Over literally less than 200 deaths.
Madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
Agreed. People need to contact the White House about this deliberate cratering of the economy. I'm sure PDT is smart enough to know his enemies are using this crisis as a pretext to destroy his work, but hearing from Joe and Jane Sixpack, in yuge numbers, can't hurt.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (NWiLs)
US Politicians are shutting us down totally.
Yeah, this is going to play out well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (NgKpN)
Allegedly 5. And his pants fit like a glove.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (SchxB)
Posted by: BluesFish at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (qXLLv)
Madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
Nitpick: Death toll is now at 206.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (juqNl)
Thanked me and asked that I not forget them when the world goes back to normal.
I don't think they are going to make it intact to the other side.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (ykYG2)
This is fucking insanity!!!
Even if there were thousands of deaths.
What the fuck are we doing?
We are intentionally plunging ourselves into a cataclysm.
Trump needs to stop this shit and stop it now before it's too late.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (FVrDO)
I wonder how everyone is going to react after two weeks of kicking everyone out of their jobs, and the number of cases here is still less than 10.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (V2Yro)
I love those 70's blaxploitation flix. Big Bad Whitey is always behind all the evil.
And that's gone from silly movies to today's propaganda
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (YPS70)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (HaL55)
Madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
Nitpick: Death toll is now at 206.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (juqNl)
What's the Dow Jones death toll?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (pS94+)
While in outbuilding had Mike Gallagher on, he had some infection disease professor who of course is warning of the worst of the worst possible scenario where 1/2 of the country has the Wuhan Flu and we might have to self quarantine for a year and a half.
Just shoot me now as I will be starving and broke by then not to mention worn out fighting off scavengers daily.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:12 AM
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (ZCEU2)
We haven't even started The panic
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (ZCEU2)
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Posit:
Government action is a trailing indicator of things, not a leading indicator. The government is now entering the hysteria stage the public was at a week or two ago.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (zZbCU)
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Blow the bridges. Flood the tunnels.
Posted by: BluesFish at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (qXLLv)
Some in Sussex county suggested this already
Posted by: CN at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
And the mayor of Tybee Island has closed the public beaches. So, if I wanted to drive out and take a long walk on the beach and get some fresh sea air, I can't.
Brian Kemp had better not even think of ordering all "non-essential" businesses to close.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:22 AM (ZLI7S)
Would we get lost if we go with you?
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (90T4r)
Don't pay the ferry man until he gets you to the other side.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (kUmUV)
Halfway between the two of you and all seems quiet here. Since CA went full fascist yesterday I wonder how long it'll take Idiot Inslee to follow suit?
OR, I'm sure is salivating at the prospect.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (TYQsd)
Who Dis? Rosie Grier and Jim Brown.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:16 AM (sLVyZ)
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LOL. Wish I'd thought of that.
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Hall Dall MD at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (R8Txa)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (kUmUV)
why in the hell would you want to leave VT ?
you should stay just where you are
and don't get any ideas about coming thru the Berkshires
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (rpxSz)
Was it as good as I'm Gonna Git You Sucka?
"We used to call her Hot Chocolate. Warm skin... you know she use to do this thing with her mou-"
"That's my MOTHER, man!"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (ykYG2)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (mpXpK)
We have four, two pairs older and younger. The older pair basically took over when they moved in, the female is separation-anxiety central, has destroyed the door casings in our bedroom when we lock them up, done a pretty fair job on the doors and window trim too. We've probably got $20K in damage and paintwork around here from them. Big boy is a pure couch potato who can be out the window killing a raccoon before you even knew one was in the yard.
The younger pair had/have different glitches. Little rat-terrier boy is a burrowing dog and will still occasionally snap if you try to get him out from under the covers on the bed. Little (not so little anymore) bulldog is terrified of loud noises and sometimes of the elder female who's basically alpha in the pack.
Play behavior: the elder two will play very aggressively and always have, they've been together since puppyhood. The little boy will join in and the elder female kinda likes him, big boy wishes he'd go away but never does anything about it. I can see the 'oh no, here comes Paolo' look on his face.
Little two play routinely. The only two that don't really factor into a play combination are the females.
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (8erNz)
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (sjdRT)
I went through the latest numbers and as of 8:00 AM PST:
USA has 14,437 CHINESE CORONA VIRUS CASES.
13 COUNTRIES OF THE EU (NOT ALL OF THE COUNTIES IN THE EU) HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF 194,584 CHINESE CORONA VIRUS CASES.
The USA has more people than the 13 countries I reviewed.
So in summation Orange Man Bad POTUS Trump is MORE THAN THIRTEEN TIMES better in his response than all the other 13 countries' leaders. But he is the guy that screwed up according the imbeciles in the media. And the numbers for deaths from CHINESE CORONA VIRUS IS EVEN MORE IN FAVOR OF TRUMP.
COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT FROM THE STUPID LYING MEDIA.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (pw+jk)
And the cats won't even nibble on him. Because cats have cat style.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (tvEuY)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
So, what happens when enough people say "fuck this shit" and go for a walk anyway?
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
No one said "boo" until we passed 1,000 dead.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (sLVyZ)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (KZzsI)
You need to watch Black Dynamite.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (juqNl)
I don't think they are going to make it intact to the other side.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (Y4EXg)
++++++++++++++
I did the same to a local Italian joint. When I went to pick up, I asked about business. She said, "bad. We're running minimum staff to get orders out, but there aren't many. Some of our regulars like you are buying and we're doing a lot of marketing, but it doesn't look good."
Place has been in business, in that spot, for 43 years. I hope they can come back. They're a "pillar of the community" kind of place - family business, big employer of local high schoolers, always available for some fundraising event, etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (hYcqw)
New England has lots of paper mills.
Posted by: fluffy at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (dCRRg)
This is fucking insanity!!!
Even if there were thousands of deaths.
What the fuck are we doing?
We are intentionally plunging ourselves into a cataclysm.
Trump needs to stop this shit and stop it now before it's too late.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (FVrDO)
He can't. Because of the Impeachment fiasco and the upcoming election, he's got to be at the head of this. He has no choice, to do anything else is to lose everything.
Our only thin hope is to go full socialist and pump out $5 or $6 Trillion in free money to keep things going until this blows over. And yeah, there will be hellacious consequences to that, too.
We're all at the top of a set of Class 5 rapids in a leaky canoe, and no way to get to shore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:29 AM (L3Rsz)
Seriously? His health?
Posted by: CN at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (WdocV)
Posted by: Kat_man at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (LQ7+y)
you should stay just where you are
and don't get any ideas about coming thru the Berkshires
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM (rpxSz)
Everything that comes into these states passes through New York. Want to bet that in the eyes of New York all that traffic is non-essential.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (kUmUV)
US Politicians are shutting us down totally.
Yeah, this is going to play out well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (NgKpN)
Using the Ugar Muslims to work in the factories. I'll check next week for analysis of traffic reports, smog reports, and other satellite data.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (MRjKr)
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Words that need to be stricken forever from our vocabulary, and anyone speaking or writing them again drawn and quartered:
--multicultural
--diverse, diversity
--inclusive
--raaaaaaaacist
--tolerant, tolerance
--cultural appropriation
--woke
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (k4dH2)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020
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"I do not know how to get to the ONT, Kirk. I really . . . do not know.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (L3Rsz)
Welcome to the party pal
Signed
Pennsylvania and the Republic of New Jersey
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (ZCEU2)
Here, hold my Chardonay
Posted by: Calif at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (NgKpN)
Instead he just made #BeInfected because that's what he actually wants.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (zZbCU)
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Sometimes it's better to make the argument that you have the least hindrance to make. So he said he "intended something else": Waaa. Conservatives constantly get pounced upon for what they SAY--or worse for what some other conservative somewhere else in the conservative spectrum SAID.
Does he really thing that his ridiculous ridicule of the conservatives criticism of the elite is what they intended to say?
Posted by: Axeman at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (Eicbe)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Timon at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (dKm4U)
Posted by: The Otter at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (t41dG)
I really can't believe we are going to destroy our economy with with fewer than two hundred deaths.
It's literally inconceivable that this is happening.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:18 AM (FVrDO)
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I keep pinching myself to try and wake up from this nightmare, but all I've got is a bunch of bruises. Is this going to be the norm every fucking flu season from now on?
Insanity fever -- catch it!
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:31 AM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:31 AM (eAZVt)
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 20, 2020 11:31 AM (3j6F+)
Thanked me and asked that I not forget them when the world goes back to normal.
I don't think they are going to make it intact to the other side.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (Y4EXg)
My daughter closed our restaurant down yesterday.
We're planning to reopen on Sunday for takeout, but we're scrapping the entire menu and will only have 3 to 4 entree specials. Beef stew, lasagna, chicken pot pie, etc. Things you can't get from the regular chain drive throughs.
Hope it works. Skeleton crew.
Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2020 11:31 AM (mrrpT)
Madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
Nitpick: Death toll is now at 206.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (juqNl)
What's the Dow Jones death toll?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (pS94+)
30% mortality, and climbing. There has to be a reckoning for this, for every bastard in government and business who is an operative for the enemy.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:31 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: josephistan at March 20, 2020 11:14 AM (Izzlo)
Based upon more recent pics, this statement rated: true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (miJU3)
Virtually all of the business I do is in CA, TX, IL, NY, PA and NJ.
5 of the six states are shut down to economic activity, which means I will be out of a job within a month if this shit isn't stopped.
I literally have no more words for this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (FVrDO)
Posted by: bongo strums at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (B+t5k)
are so sick they need help breathing. They can survive if properly cared for.
Where are the #s for got help breathing, survived and got better?
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (FhXTo)
Just shoot me now as I will be starving and broke by then not to mention worn out fighting off scavengers daily.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:12 AM
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18 months won't happen. The infrastructure isn't there for it and no one lays in that kind of supply backlog - and even if they did, no one could pay for it. The country will be in ruins long before 18 months elapse. I doubt this can be kept up for much more than one month, let alone a year and a half.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Timon
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Ouch! So sorry to hear that Timon.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)
Agreed. Probably one of the best actors ever to appear on Star Trek; I think only Nimoy had the chops to go scene-for-scene with him. It was a shame he's only really known for Blacula and Scream, Blacula, Scream.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020
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I think he had done some stage work before that, playing Othello. Not sure. But to me he will always be Dr. Richard Daystrom. He was on two episodes of U.N.C.L.E., too, playing two very different characters.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM
Related to my family doctor (and infrequent commenter here) Dr. Mbogo.
Posted by: Gomez Addams at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (JRaU+)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (kUmUV)
dunno, I'm going over to Great Barrington right now
I'm stocked but want to see what;s happening
how are things in area ?
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (ch6++)
"The Big Bird Cage" is awesome in all regards! A women's prison in the rice paddies of the Philippines, of course. Clothing optional.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: dingbat at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (KylN9)
Posted by: JackStraw
I want to be on a tiny boat filled with gold. Is that an iceberg...?
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (CDGwz)
And these guys are living in fear. They are afraid they'll lose their jobs if they do not seem to be doing enough
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (KZzsI)
And then we'll do it again during the next created panic. I honestly don't have a clue what Trump can do - other than scapegoat a few states (NY, CA) to save the rest.
The next thirty days are going to determine the next twenty years. And I don't have a clue how it'll turn out.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (rIQuo)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (L3Rsz)
>>Madness.
If you are looking at the death rate you are looking in the rear view mirror.
On March 3rd NY recorded 3 new cases of Kung Flu. Yesterday they reported 2,950. Plot the trend.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (JRaU+)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (NWiLs)
But, then, what was the purpose of the tweet to begin with? (yes, I know the answer)
Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (Ozpxd)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (eAZVt)
Posted by: Hudson at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (rpxSz)
Sheesh, read the wiki article about her relationship with Lew Alcindor. It's a wild ending.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:20 AM (cfSLd)
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Wow, had never heard (or have since forgotten) that story.
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM
Related to my family doctor (and infrequent commenter here) Dr. Mbogo.
Posted by: Gomez Addams at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (DMUuz)
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Not to be confused with the adult film start Dr. Ima Bangya
Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (CAJOC)
Around here they've 'closed' the parks which just basically means they've put up sawhorses with 'facility closed' signs. Dog walking continues as before.
Oh, and they locked the bathrooms, so the FedEx drivers are gonna have to pee in the bushes.
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (8erNz)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (5IbVn)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (pw+jk)
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (3aI0K)
I don't have much for gold, but I can single hand a sailboat, and cook a gourmet meal in a tiny galley while underway. I also can clean a fish.
need a hand?
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Yo! at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (uZuKb)
On March 3rd NY recorded 3 new cases of Kung Flu. Yesterday they reported 2,950. Plot the trend.
Posted by: JackStraw
Thank you JackStraw.
Lotsa innumerates looking at the flattish line at the start of the exponential curve and not looking at the brick wall of Italian marble they're driving toward.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (ykYG2)
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (3aI0K)
Down with Massholes!
Posted by: CN at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (ONvIw)
The Phillipines must have given away movie making money in the 70s. I can't recall the Big Bird Cage, but there were a bunch of movies where the white girl and the black girl got locked up in the Phillipines and there were generic revolutionaries in green and the girls had to take outdoor showers.
Good times.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (eAZVt)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (6FeV1)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (dfRN6)
Posted by: Yo! at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (uZuKb)
That's good news. I can't stand guest hosts.
Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (mrrpT)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (RD7QR)
how are things in area ?
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (rpxSz)
We're fine on food for 2 weeks and because it has been a fairly mild winter I've got enough firewood left to heat until it gets warmer without worrying about oil. I may fill up some gas cans this weekend though.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (kUmUV)
>>need a hand?
Deal.
Someone's got to sail while I'm drinking all the rum.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (ZLI7S)
congresspeople in training , dammit !!
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (rpxSz)
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Amen. When I hear people talking about how much more divisive politics is now or being shocked that the press would take the side of America's enemies I wonder where these people were in the '80s.
The only thing that has changed is that, thanks to the Internet, you don't have to listen to Rush to get the other side of the story.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (BJKQV)
Posted by: Vasili, One Ping Flu at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (TdMsT)
We are in a zombie apocalypse scenario just without the zombies
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (ZCEU2)
That's the part they aren't telling us.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (CQ3Qb)
Trump can do what I said to do upstream, invoke posse comitatas, federalize this thing.
Order the states to open for economic business.
Turn military bases into Hospitals, triage and quarantine centers.
Take control, do something!
Because these maniacs are going to destroy this country.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (FVrDO)
I'd better alert the scolds at NextDoor.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (ptqGC)
Because that's the key. The testing is only revealing what has been around already. Its not a huge sudden rise in cases, its just a huge, sudden rise in identified people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (kUmUV)
good luck and take care
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (sHVgQ)
MAN that woman was stacked with one hell of a pretty face.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (l4C/z)
America will be hungry for everything we've missed and eager to get back to work.
It will be boom time.
Now is the time to relax at home and make healthy American babies.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (WrOkn)
*Gorilla*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (EGyGV)
That will remind some governors (D) that not all chemo treatments are necessary.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (Ry8mf)
>>Order the states to open for economic business.
You seem to be forgetting that it was Trump who made the 15 day sequester recommendation that all the state are following.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Ladyl
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I made gluten free cookies yesterday.
We both have sore throats and stuffed up heads so you having a cold won't bother us. C'mon over.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (Y4EXg)
Which would explain why the trials got going so expeditiously AFTER people knew what was going on.
If the chloroquine + aze...whatever the antibiotic the French were testing is really 90% effective...and these drugs are decades old and well-characterized, this thing will be over in a hurry.
If not, then...well, maybe we won't NEED those retirement investments.
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (8erNz)
Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM
That's the rare, but very helpful, lavatory retriever.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (ejd/p)
Number of new reported cases is proportional to testing availability, not actual spread of the virus. It was already spread around.
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (eAZVt)
He merely wished to signal that he's clever, and that he hates the correct people.
But fuck you, Stiches the Blow-Up Fuck Gnome.
Your rules.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (6FeV1)
Because that's the key. The testing is only revealing what has been around already. Its not a huge sudden rise in cases, its just a huge, sudden rise in identified people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)
Your logic and commonsense will be lost on many. Like tears, in the rain.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (hYcqw)
This is why I'm hopeful that this "15 day plan to slow the spread" is window dressing/ political cover. If Julie Kelly from American Greatness can read the data then someone in the admin surely can too.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (PO/+3)
That's so fucking irresponsible I don't have words. Hour by hour this seems to be getting worse (not the disease, the reaction).
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (WrOkn)
Dear Lord, You are all wise, but if I may suggest:
May God and Trump punish the crooks profiteering from our loss, specially the insider traders
May China go bankrupt as countries pull their manufacturing from them
May Dems using this genuine crisis to grab power, and their party, be tossed aside by the electorate forever
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (G546f)
Posted by: Vic at March 20, 2020 11:28 AM
That's the rare, but very helpful, lavatory retriever.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (ejd/p)
*golf clap*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM
Saw a semi with a flatbed loaded with bricks made by "ACME Brick" on the highway yesterday.
It's real, people!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (DMUuz)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (rpxSz)
Because that's the key. The testing is only revealing what has been around already. Its not a huge sudden rise in cases, its just a huge, sudden rise in identified people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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This. Who is being tested? The statistics are all very vague, because the data set is vague. That doesn't mean we should not pay attention to them, but it does mean that we ought to be circumspect.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (sHVgQ)
She still is pretty, too. I thought she part Indian (real Indian, not call-center Indian), but she seems to be part everything.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (Ry8mf)
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (flINI)
Someone give me some good news, please.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (TdMsT)
Well, I am an engineer and social distancing is what we do. For the first time in my adult life (29 times some number larger than 1) I feel like I belong.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 20, 2020 11:43 AM (kUmUV)
I know it's not Wednesday, but I'd like to offer a prayer to all of us,
the Horde, may we weather this Chinese attack being exacerbated by
traitorous Leftists, and emerge stronger than ever.
Dear Lord, You are all wise, but if I may suggest:
May God and Trump punish the crooks profiteering from our loss, specially the insider traders
May China go bankrupt as countries pull their manufacturing from them
May Dems using this genuine crisis to grab power, and their party, be tossed aside by the electorate forever
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (G546f)
This. Every word. Amen.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:43 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 20, 2020 11:43 AM (FohVc)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (dUJdY)
{{{Jewells}}}
I'm up and about! It's not the worst cold I've ever had, so I'm grateful.
How are you doing, dahlin?
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:43 AM (TdMsT)
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (JKNZq)
It is that phrase, " bans will be lifted" that has me worried about the future.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (90T4r)
I could go on, but at this point folks are either on the side of saving the materialist and hyper consumption based on economy, or people are on the side of saving humanity and their countrymen's lives.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (eAZVt)
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Yeah. This thing didn't stay in China until the West found out about it. If it was in China in mid November, and is as contagious as we are told, then I don't know how it couldn't have been in NY by early December.
I wonder if anyone is going back and seeing if there was an unusual spike in respiratory illnesses in the elderly back in Dec & Jan.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (BJKQV)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (JRaU+)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (CqE5x)
Big upside is, it's nice and quiet here.
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (88+cf)
And then we'll do it again during the next created panic. I honestly don't have a clue what Trump can do - other than scapegoat a few states (NY, CA) to save the rest.
The next thirty days are going to determine the next twenty years. And I don't have a clue how it'll turn out.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 20, 2020 11:33 AM (rIQuo)
I agree - some people here thought I was being too negative at the beginning of the week, but now everything I feared is happening - every mid level business in the nation is shutting down, and now 20% unemployment looks like a low ball number.
What gripes me most is that all of these politicians and "health experts" are saying we have to base our decisions on their models and computer projections, and yet not a single one of them cares about the Economic Projections which show total collapse for the nation within a month or two. Their "plan" is simply to let it all collapse and then have the Government take over everything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Sooner at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: DaveD at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (P5fqQ)
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (eAZVt)
May God and Trump punish the crooks profiteering from our loss, specially the insider traders
May China go bankrupt as countries pull their manufacturing from them
May Dems using this genuine crisis to grab power, and their party, be tossed aside by the electorate forever
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (G546f)
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Amen.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (WEBkv)
To meep or not to meep; that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in
the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous ACME
contraptions, or to take arms against a wily coyote, and by opposing end
them.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (NWiLs)
__________
Though this be madness, yet there is method in it.
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
They're holding a lot of our national debt, right? We tell them we're writing off, say, $3 trillion of it. For economic losses they caused us.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (juqNl)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: HOA Board Members Assn. at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (DMUuz)
Posted by: notsothoreau
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So, surrender is imminent?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (sHVgQ)
This. Every word. Amen.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:43 AM (ptqGC)
AMEN
I'm focusing on this verse today:
"For I know the plans I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (TdMsT)
Wiped. Like with a cloth...
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)
Did not know that and if he did in fact do that then he's a fucking idiot who's getting insanely bad advice.
Only a handful of mega corporations can go weeks without economic activity.
I'll be laid off in a months time if this lasts more than a handful more weeks if the economic shutdown continues.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (FVrDO)
Unfortunately, most decent people do not want to get anywhere near the sty. So only the corrupt are attracted to politics.
Posted by: Old Dude at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (LGXGf)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)
Agreed. Probably one of the best actors ever to appear on Star Trek; I think only Nimoy had the chops to go scene-for-scene with him. It was a shame he's only really known for Blacula and Scream, Blacula, Scream.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:19 AM (2JVJo)
I've got "The Ultimate Computer" (TOS Season 2) queued up on Netflix.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: 29Victor at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (BJKQV)
The obituary pages showed A LOT of names back then.
Interestingly, they don't show very many these days.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (CqE5x)
MAN that woman was stacked with one hell of a pretty face.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:39 AM (l4C/z)
I went to wiki and saw a pic of her from 2012. She reminds me uncomfortably of that brassy loudmouth Jackee.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (90T4r)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: JEM
that's easy for the penile-abled, but what about women and tranny drivers?
discrimination!!!
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (G546f)
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (/ZYFC)
Why does everyone accept to unquestionably the "high transmissibility" of this virus? The experience of the Cruise Ship Princess counters that narrative; it doesn't appear to be more or less transmissible than any other flu, in spite of the hype.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (V2Yro)
However, if sale of Mom's house doesn't go through, I'll have to continue to work in order to support mom.
Sigh.
Ah, well, I'm not in charge, God is, so, I'll leave it with him.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Timon
We're all 'taking a break' from life as usual. I was fortunate in that I'd already lost my job two years ago. See you on the other side, there's big stuff going down.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (dBiBP)
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (zr5Kq)
I listened to an interview with a financial guy, who studies supply chains, and he said this would happen.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (MRjKr)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: DaveD at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (P5fqQ)
These things don't just spring up overnight. Wilson must've always been a loathsome garbage person and it's just now coming out.
Trump: The Great Revealer.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (juqNl)
From APR through OCT, when Obama declared national emergency --- 4 months after WHO declared it a pandemic in JUN --- these were the stats in the USA:
Cases: 21,632,000 (3,090,000 per month)
Hospitalizations: 97,536 (13,934 per month)
Deaths: 3,893 (556 per month)
All numbers from the CDC.
TIMELINE: https://bit.ly/2WuOgKN
Official Numbers: https://bit.ly/2Ww6JH1
Someone needs to reminding people in this country of these numbers to get some freaking perspective here. If we don't shut down the economy and "social distance" over 556 deaths per month, we certainly do not go hysterical over, at last count, 218 total deaths over 2-3 months in USA.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (flINI)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (88+cf)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (V2Yro)
But we're not going to let them do that.
Their little plan is our best opportunity.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (WrOkn)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:38 AM (TdMsT)
I've heard I get to keep my balls.
Posted by: Muad'dib's Dog Benny at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (G546f)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (axyOa)
I believe Trump the businessman will handle it adroitly.
Posted by: davidt at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (l3+k2)
I could go on, but at this point folks are either on the side of saving the materialist and hyper consumption based on economy, or people are on the side of saving humanity and their countrymen's lives.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Life sucks. It is not fair. People die.
But the sad fact is that there is a cost benefit analysis that needs to be done here.
How many more people will die because the economy tanks and they don't have the money they need, then will die from the Coronas?
Same type of analysis is done by the Military all the damn time. Is it worth it to take that hill?
We are being ruled by Fear.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (NgKpN)
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (dBiBP)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (SchxB)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (dUJdY)
Thank goodness!
I know you've been wanting eggs in the morning!
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (TdMsT)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (eAZVt)
Posted by: Big V at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (XEC2p)
Depends on whether you're expecting to be one of the survivors.
We have a lot of theories and half-information at this point: chloroquine, spring weather, 1918 being a poor analogue due to overuse (respiratory failure) of aspirin.
Still too soon to predict one way or the other.
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (8erNz)
Once it becomes really obvious that Trump is benefiting politically from this, I wonder if coverage will shift away from the virus.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Jean at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (B7KlG)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
They're holding a lot of our national debt, right? We tell them we're writing off, say, $3 trillion of it. For economic losses they caused us.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (juqNl)
I have faith in the Lord and faith in President Trump's uncanny ability to come up with the most efficient solution.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (WrOkn)
Ashanti Van Buren March 20, 2020
Somebody has been reading Kirt Schlichter books again.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (axyOa)
Cuomo is coordinating and tag-teaming with the Trump/COVID-19 team pressers. He's doing a pretty good job, politics aside.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (vEIlU)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (ZLI7S)
Once it becomes really obvious that Trump is benefiting politically from this, I wonder if coverage will shift away from the virus.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (zZbCU)
Yeah, I'm assuming the Trump Curse is still powerful and this drama will boomarang on the Dems yet again and all this will be back burnered.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (l4C/z)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM (G546f)
What kind of savages put Grammie in the barrel? Is this what we've become?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (1CjJc)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (wUHYj)
Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (mrrpT)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (lwiT4)
Why does everyone accept to unquestionably the "high transmissibility" of this virus? The experience of the Cruise Ship Princess counters that narrative; it doesn't appear to be more or less transmissible than any other flu, in spite of the hype.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (V2Yro)
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Data sets are pretty obviously garbage, but better to be over protective than not do enough, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (2JVJo)
History DOES REPEAT ITSELF, EH? Am I repeating myself ?
Posted by: ron n. at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (om5HK)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM
The Barrel gets cleaned?????
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (axyOa)
I honestly think that's the best and simplest answer. OUr bill to you for damages to our nation's economy is equal to our debt. Oh, and we're not going to be buying so much stuff from you any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 11:25 AM (KZzsI)
UB is much better than the Austin Powers movies, IMHO.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (iuFgi)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:41 AM (G546f)
I do believe this will happen in Pennsylvania anyway.
The PA map shows most of the cases in the densely populated areas, duh. So the rest of the state has to suffer? Just declare Philly a no-go zone.
There's going to be a lot of community spread from the Flower Show that went from Feb 28- March 9.
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (kgQKM)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (nRWPy)
Now with testing, a clarification is being read as a "spike" in infections--when it's not.
Also, physicians and scientists who should know better are causing panic among even the normally stoic by using "worst-case scenario' projections as a model of what might actually be happening.
Somewhere Hillary is cackling.....
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (CqE5x)
I could go on, but at this point folks are either on the side of saving the materialist and hyper consumption based on economy, or people are on the side of saving humanity and their countrymen's lives.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Perfect example of the fake Moral Posturing that all socialists and communists have always relied on. IN FACT - if you destroy the ability of people to feed themselves and to stay in their houses, by allowing their jobs to be destroyed, YOU DESTROY THOSE PEOPLE!!! And you destroy ALL of them, not just the few who would have gotten sick!
And of course the Communist then says, well that won't happen because the State will take over all housing, and the State will provide all income, and the State will provide all goods, forever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (V2Yro)
This is now a fake crisis to crash the economy. More convinced than ever.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (pS94+)
THIS.
Take it to your former bank.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (TdMsT)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (juqNl)
unless there is a signficant mutation
no other virus can do that
more likely ppl think they are recovered then relapse
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (G546f)
Madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 11:21 AM (FVrDO)
Nitpick: Death toll is now at 206.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:26 AM (juqNl)
What's the Dow Jones death toll?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (pS94+)
30% mortality, and climbing. There has to be a reckoning for this, for every bastard in government and business who is an operative for the enemy.
Posted by: tubal
2018-2019 seasonal flu death toll - 34,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (sLVyZ)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
They're holding a lot of our national debt, right? We tell them we're writing off, say, $3 trillion of it. For economic losses they caused us.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (juqNl)
RORGF, China
Posted by: josephistan at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (Izzlo)
Why does everyone accept to unquestionably the "high transmissibility" of this virus? The experience of the Cruise Ship Princess counters that narrative; it doesn't appear to be more or less transmissible than any other flu, in spite of the hype.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:46 AM (V2Yro)
Because every research paper since the mid January case to this conclusion. Also, the reaction and measures of 140 countries infected with this virus. China locking down 750 million. Things like that.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (MRjKr)
Lady at the WH press conference, CDC maybe, said we should see a spike in cases over the next couple days now that they've certified more labs to process the tests and they're running through the backlog.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (ExV1e)
Yeah, I'm assuming the Trump Curse is still powerful and this drama will boomarang on the Dems yet again and all this will be back burnered.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (l4C/z)
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Poll released this morning showed Trump with massively improved ratings on his handling of the crisis over the last couple of weeks.
A couple more weeks of Trump being all president and shit for the nation, and I can't see it getting any worse.
And Biden's no where to be seen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (zZbCU)
Their default setting is totalitarianism.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (WEBkv)
No, this is what we've always been.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (SchxB)
benefiting politically from this, I wonder if coverage will shift away
from the virus.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (zZbCU)
Once it becomes obvious Trump is benefiting politically then the media will push, "Trump knew it was a bio-weapon the whole time and didn't tell us."
Posted by: davidt at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (l3+k2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (pS94+)
That is what I think too.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (90T4r)
This was my first instinct, and still is.
No one would have seen the coup by our intel agencies and fed gov departments coming. I would never believe it.
I believe everything now.
This is purposeful.
But, we need to ride it out with calm and smarts.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (vEIlU)
It is that phrase, " bans will be lifted" that has me worried about the future.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (90T4r)
If bands aren't lifted in a week or so, that's when we'll see people defying the government and related authorities. What can't go on, won't.
Posted by: Sooner at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (Fs5vw)
Agreed. We're finding out this thing is everywhere, has been, and ain't that dangerous. Just like every other cold and flu season.
And we ain't Italy.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (rIQuo)
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2020 11:32 AM (FhXTo)
You seem really invested in the idea that once a WuFlu patient gets into breathing difficulties, that they are a goner. Own mortuary stock, maybe?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (miJU3)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (lwiT4)
NO! NO! DON'T LIGHT A MATCH DOWN THERE!!!!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (juqNl)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (vEIlU)
Trump will remind everyone. That's one thing that helps me stay calm - Trump is in charge. He will bring up the Obama pandemic and stuff it down their throats. Election isn't for 7 months. The Satanic Democrats can only hope people keep dying until then.
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (eAZVt)
What kind of savages put Grammie in the barrel? Is this what we've become?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (1CjJc)
This is NOT who we are.
Someone pull Grammie out of the barrel.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (TdMsT)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (juqNl)
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China officially holds about $1.1 trillion in Treasuries. There is probably more - maybe a half a trillion - in other overseas holding groups (based in places like Norway - nice neutral and not officially connected to China).
Repudiating their Treasury paper would just about pay for the bailout, but not quite and massive damage to our credibility to foreign lenders.
Sadly, China no longer owns enough paper to make it really worth it. They drew down a lot of it during their recent economic upheavals of the past decade, and the Fed bought most of it during QE which is why interest rates didn't spike.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Sooner at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (axyOa)
You owe me one, dear lady.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (juqNl)
Oh!! Smooches!!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (lwiT4)
He's the reason I cancelled my subscription to Garden and Gun. He's a pal of the editor, and regularly has articles published in it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)
Cuomo came out yesterday (I believe) with a strong statement that no shutdown was planned for New York.
How much of this is a real, measured reaction to a rapidly escalating situation that no one has a handle on, and how much is some sort of demented blue state, dare I say, virtue signaling? Or maybe fear of being labeled by the media as someone who failed to do their duty to protect their populace?
I truly hate to think this about my countrymen but there is an element about this I simply do not get.
Posted by: RM at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (U3LtS)
More Cuomo: "There is a social compact that we have...we must make society safe for everyone."
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (L3Rsz)
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This means "liberty for no one (except our betters)."
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
They're holding a lot of our national debt, right? We tell them we're writing off, say, $3 trillion of it. For economic losses they caused us.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (juqNl)
RORGF, China
Posted by: josephistan at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (Izzlo)
If China thinks they can wreck our economy, they forget that if that happens it most assuredly will wipe them out in short order not long afterwards.
The thing about viruses is, they try not to kill the host....
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (pS94+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
On March 3rd NY recorded 3 new cases of Kung Flu. Yesterday they reported 2,950. Plot the trend.
Posted by: JackStraw
Thank you JackStraw.
Lotsa innumerates looking at the flattish line at the start of the exponential curve and not looking at the brick wall of Italian marble they're driving toward.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM
Gonna hit the barbed wire fence of Venezueia, economically, before we hit that Italian corona marble wall.
For every one who posts daily test-positive numbers, reported cases numbers, are you also going to start posting daily numbers of layoffs, business closures, mortgage foreclosures, people going to ER's for healthcare because they just lost their job and have no insureance?
Posted by: HAL at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (786Ro)
Posted by: Fox2! at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (qyH+l)
Posted by: Hand at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (786Ro)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Then can we get overprotective of the seasonal flu that infects 35.4 million a year?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (sLVyZ)
You owe me one, dear lady.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (juqNl)
OM, you're such a gentleman.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (FQrF4)
Posted by: RM at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (U3LtS)
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someone pulled Cuomo aside and told him that cratering tax receipts was a bad idea.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Big V at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (XEC2p)
Pam is at least 50% white it looks
Not that it matters. She was hot regardless.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (CqE5x)
So will have to go off into the woods to do my weekly shooting.
Not amused.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (l4C/z)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)
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I'm not sold on this idea.
China fucked up. Really badly.
America taking them to the woodshed financially, especially after Trump has spent three years making the case that they are bad actors and getting a surprising number of people to join him on that, and we're not talking about a country just reneging on debt. It's something else.
It could still scare off other foreign investors, but I'm just not convinced that Japan will see the action as America simply walking away from an obligation it doesn't want to pay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Saving humanity and their countrymen's lives? How about all those with cardiac issues who are going to die over legit financial worries?? What about those with mental illness who are barely holding it together as they go through their daily routine, and now have no place to go in the morning and no income?
Just like a commie to create a PRIVILEGED class of afflicted: the American Health System now has Winners and Losers:
Winners: anyone who even ever thought about the Chinese Flu
Losers: Cardiac patients, mentally ill, and oh by the way everybody else because stress kills.
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (kgQKM)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM
That's great. So the precedent has been set. Get a corrupt CDC showing the President of the United States some scary numbers and that's the blueprint for how to crash the USA's economy anytime anyone feels like it.
Welcome to the new normal.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Big V at March 20, 2020 11:48 AM (XEC2p)
Pam is at least 50% white it looks
Not that it matters. She was hot regardless.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (CqE5x)
She had the most amazing aureolas.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (pS94+)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (WrOkn)
county next to us (literally for me, that's where I shop) has 55
since they have drive thru testing set up now, I expect those numbers to.surge dramatically
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (G546f)
I would like to return to that status.
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Last time I had a caramel, it pulled off a crown.
Kinda been avoiding all caramel since then.
Fortunately, there's still some coffee left to go with one of Milady's own chocolate chip cookies.
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Panic's over. Everybody return to normal!
Posted by: mindful webworker
Strict New Panic Schedule
at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (jhgxs)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (vEIlU)
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Link?
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (WrOkn)
Upstaging Limbaugh after being gone for a week is not kosher!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (pS94+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:49 AM (zZbCU)
This is a debate I've been having with many on the global warming sites for years - when is being cautious, being TOO cautious? It brings up the entire issue of cost/benefit analysis, which our society appears to no longer be capable of.
Warmists, and leftists in general, do not seem to understand they are basing their claims on an old intellectual argument known as "Pascal's Wager" - especially ironic since they reject the conclusion Pascal reached. What they have no concept of is that Pascal's Wager only applies when Costs of two courses of action are Equal - then of course, you take the more cautious path. BUT for all real world situations, benefits have to weighed against costs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (lwiT4)
You want to talk about a spike in COVID cases? There will be an actual spike in suicide deaths over this mania.
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (kgQKM)
Posted by: Hudson at March 20, 2020 11:35 AM (rpxSz)
Secure that shit, Hudson!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (b38Xl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Then can we get overprotective of the seasonal flu that infects 35.4 million a year?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM (sLVyZ)
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Trust me, I think this is an overreaction, but the analogy of the flu is of limited use because we have a lot more information on it, how it spreads, how badly it affects the population, etc.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
Too easy.
"Hey, CHI NAH. That Trillion or so of our debt you're holding? Have fun wiping yer ass with it, 'cause that's all it's worth to YOU, now."
All you other nations holding U.S. Debt? If you've been our friend, well then belly up to the bar. We're buyin'.
You other scolds can go pound IMF sand, along with CHI NAH.
B'bye!"
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (QzJWU)
I could go on, but at this point folks are either on the side of saving the materialist and hyper consumption based on economy, or people are on the side of saving humanity and their countrymen's lives.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Perfect example of the fake Moral Posturing that all socialists and communists have always relied on. IN FACT - if you destroy the ability of people to feed themselves and to stay in their houses, by allowing their jobs to be destroyed, YOU DESTROY THOSE PEOPLE!!! And you destroy ALL of them, not just the few who would have gotten sick!
And of course the Communist then says, well that won't happen because the State will take over all housing, and the State will provide all income, and the State will provide all goods, forever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (V2Yro)
Bro, I'm only repeating what 95% of economists, financial experts, doctors, virologists, and epidemiologists have stated. You can pick human lives or the economy, but if you pick both in this situation then you will lose both.
Hong Kong, Russia, and South Korea picked human lives and have been successful. Europe picked the economy and look where they are now.
Every country is a model.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (MRjKr)
Dr. Mbenga, but I don't know the actor's name.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM
You ain't from around here, are you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2020 11:56 AM (DMUuz)
By that they meant they would take down someone or some institution. Destruction. Deconstruction. The incessant drive to destroy what they hate because it's so much better than them and everything they stand for and wish for.
And they found some fellow haters in the form of the Democrat party which has hated the United States and the Republic. They tried to destroy it before it got started. Then they tried to destroy it with slavery. Then they tried to destroy it with taxes. Then they tried to destroy it with a war. Finally they decided to destroy it from the inside by taking over all the necessary pillars holding the edifice up.
Yet somehow the idea of our Republic has stood all they've thrown at it because it's not a thing or even an idea. It's a driving desire for freedom to be what we want. To strive for what we want. To attain what we have earned. To let no one else tell us what we can or cannot have or think or do.
We will win. We MUST.
Posted by: jakee308 at March 20, 2020 11:56 AM (1Lhet)
His first priority is to punish the people. This has nothing to do with safety.
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:56 AM (eAZVt)
So will have to go off into the woods to do my weekly shooting.
Not amused.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 11:53 AM
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Tacoma Sportsman club is just about there too. They are on a "cooperating" basis. And one of the long time range safety officers died (not of virus) so they are short staff, and the state is leaning on them heavily.
Damn.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (vEIlU)
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Link?
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (WrOkn)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy1_K76Vjdc
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (juqNl)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM
You ain't from around here, are you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 20, 2020 11:56 AM (DMUuz)
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I think it was nurse ratched. Or another of the ladies.
But it happened.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (zZbCU)
Remember it well. All the masks are finally coming off.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (rIQuo)
Posted by: davidt at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (l3+k2)
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We need to do more than just stop buying from them. We should cut those f*ckers off completely until they put a stop to the shit that caused this. No more eating bats and snakes and dogs, no more lying about contagious diseases and destroying lab data and silencing doctors, no more letting infected Chinese people travel the globe spreading pestilence.
Unless and until they show they can act like responsible grown-ups, the Chinese should be isolated. No visas, student or otherwise for them, no landing rights for their planes and ships, no contact at all.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (k4dH2)
Agreed. We're finding out this thing is everywhere, has been, and ain't that dangerous. Just like every other cold and flu season.
And we ain't Italy.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (rIQuo)
Yup, this has always had a real problem with confirmation bias.
They did not have enough tests, so they only tested those who got REALLY sick. If you had mild cold symptoms or even flu like symptoms, you didn't even go to the Doctor, and thus were never tested.
Its like the CDC Flu numbers. Year to date been something like 22,000 deaths attributed to flu, out of 275,000 who tested positive for flu.
Now, there are MILLIONS of Americans who have had the flu this year, but were never tested.
But if you go JUST by the CDC stats? It looks like the Flu has about an 8% DEATH RATE!
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (NgKpN)
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (zr5Kq)
The media has been part of the left for decades. They hid it a bit better in years past
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 20, 2020 11:57 AM (a8I88)
Posted by: Dingbat at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (KylN9)
Some of you keep acting like there is a good solution to this mess. Sometimes there is no good solution, there are only less bad ones.
Everyone is aware of the damage being done to the economy, not just ours but every economy around the world. Everyone is also aware of the personal hardships virtually all of us are facing, some more than others.
But you need to show me one western country, hell throw in Africa and the Middle East that aren't doing versions of the same thing we are doing. Countries like frigging Angola are closing their borders.
This is either a plot by every leader in the world or it is a serious virus. You can choose the biggest plot in the history of the world but that doesn't mean all of us have to agree.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ZLI7S)
Reminder: 2.8 million Americans will die this year.
Gov. Wolf, grant me the serenity to accept your temporary power trip,
courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (Wd55D)
Their default setting is totalitarianism.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 20, 2020 11:50 AM (WEBkv)
I agree completely. And whether or not there was a plan to begin with, we've gone over the edge of the waterfall, and nobody has any idea where we're going to land. This is pure, unadulterated Chaos, in real time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (V2Yro)
Rev is doing a funeral this afternoon. Family only because of the you-know. Sad way to have to bury your mom.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (lwiT4)
We just lost a 103 y.o. church member, and his family had a graveside service for him with just family in attendance.
Another dear lady passed away and her family took her to TN to bury her.
I told my husband it looks like I won't be doing any funeral receptions for a while. Our church is holding a regular service on Sunday, with live-streaming for those who are afraid or unable to go out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 20, 2020 11:47 AM
You ain't from around here, are you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Plus you can't get Lysol for love or money.these days.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)
Oh you've accessed all the literature that every one in those categories has published, read it all, and then quantified their conclusions?
Get a grip, buddy. Get a life.
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (kgQKM)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (eAZVt)
You won't. It will be filed under "Better safe than sorry."
Posted by: Steve in SoCal at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (Ozpxd)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2020 11:23 AM (pS94+)
That is what I think too.
Posted by: tubal at March 20, 2020 11:24 AM (90T4r)
This was my first instinct, and still is.
No one would have seen the coup by our intel agencies and fed gov departments coming. I would never believe it.
I believe everything now.
This is purposeful.
But, we need to ride it out with calm and smarts.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 20, 2020 11:51 AM (vEIlU)
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Agree. Never seen anything like this. This is purposeful and I hope we find out the genesis to this whole thing and hold those responsible for it responsible
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (flINI)
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM
Hyperbole and false binary choices. Just because you're going to one extreme, doesn't necessarily mean anyone who challenges it is going to the other.
Posted by: Hand at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (786Ro)
He's the reason I cancelled my subscription to Garden and Gun. He's a pal of the editor, and regularly has articles published in it.
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I'm trying to avoid negativity, and the MSM in general, but we should be noting who is leveraging this crisis for their own agenda/politics. These people should not be forgiven when it is over.
Not to get all cancel culture, but some people who are a drag on this country should no longer be taken seriously. It's like the pundits who pontificate on sh#t they know nothing about, never being held accountable for their false predictions/faulty analysis.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (KxVoZ)
Posted by: bluebell at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (/669Q)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (WrOkn)
They're holding a lot of our national debt, right? We tell them we're writing off, say, $3 trillion of it. For economic losses they caused us.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 20, 2020 11:45 AM (juqNl)
THIS. Also, social distancing is an introvert's dream.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: it begins
And experts have said MILLIONS in the US will die from this.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (sLVyZ)
Posted by: kallisto
we went to the Flower show, last day, very few ppl
we were careful about surfaces
also went to Longwood that week, last day before they closed
no symptoms so far
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (G546f)
Jack Straw: South Korea got a handle on their epidemic by implenting "open society" quarantine. They did not deploy draconian measures. Guess what? Their curve flattened.
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (kgQKM)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ZLI7S)
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It can also simply be panic and overreaction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (zZbCU)
_Slam (that's the door)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (WrOkn)
The federal government is no longer allowed to hire. Instead, any time someone retires or dies we open a slot for a kid out of college to fill that role. Take the bloated federal salary and apply is against their loans - no additional salary.
That will make the millenials want to get people out of government, and frankly it isn't like they could do worse of a job....
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
"hyper consumption based on economy."
I didn't know Bernie Sanders posted here.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (2JVJo)
417 I could go on, but at this point folks are either on the side of saving the materialist and hyper consumption based on economy, or people are on the side of saving humanity and their countrymen's lives.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Saving humanity and their countrymen's lives? How about all those with cardiac issues who are going to die over legit financial worries?? What about those with mental illness who are barely holding it together as they go through their daily routine, and now have no place to go in the morning and no income?
Just like a commie to create a PRIVILEGED class of afflicted: the American Health System now has Winners and Losers:
Winners: anyone who even ever thought about the Chinese Flu
Losers: Cardiac patients, mentally ill, and oh by the way everybody else because stress kills.
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (kgQKM)
I agree with you and I have been on the side of saving lives and humanity since this thing popped on my radar in mid January. We need to save as many lives as possible.
The economy was going to crash anyway before this. Not as drastic of a downturn, but it was beginning in December and January. All the smart money was preparing for it in 2020. COVID-19 is the catalyst.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (MRjKr)
If we are going to stop Transgender surgery how are we going to get "BAGS of DICKS"?
Who Dis : Chesty Morgan and Morgan Chase?
Posted by: saf at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (5IHGB)
Every country is a model.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:55 AM (MRjKr)
Russia did not shut down.
Russia closed their borders.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)
Rick Wilson does not know how to apostrophe.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (KxVoZ)
He DOES know how to felch goats, however.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Eric Swalswell at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: River Tam at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (ftFVW)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (G546f)
I actually want to get tested, but there's conditions. We have to be "approved."
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 12:01 PM (kgQKM)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)
Not necessarily new cases, but newly-recognized cases. Because testing has yet to catch up to the number of people already infected.
If you can find it, go listen to the Goon Show episode, "The Spon Plague".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 12:01 PM (miJU3)
This is either a plot by every leader in the world or it is a serious virus. You can choose the biggest plot in the history of the world but that doesn't mean all of us have to agree.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ZLI7S)
Mexico isn't doing shit. The virus will spread, a bunch of people will get sick, some people will die, and then life will go on as always.
By mid-summer, Mexico's economy will be bigger than what's left in the United States. And it's going to look like Capitalist Heaven in comparison to what we'll be living with.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 12:01 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (TdMsT)
Huh. Not often you see someone volunteer to go into the barrel.
Reminds me of that joke that ends 'you're not here for the hunting, are you'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (l4C/z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ptqGC)
Good for you for keeping your church doors open. We are looking at possibly next week, if Illinois doesn't screw it up. (We live in WI but church is in IL). I wish we had the tech know-how to do on-line streaming, but alas....
Posted by: grammie winger at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (TdMsT)
*present Ladyl with AOSHQ Medal of Freedom and laurel crown
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (zr5Kq)
From 125,000 to 250,000 cases: 9 days
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Tami at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (cF8AT)
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Yes - the 2009 flu was serious - it killed 150K-600K people.
We didn't do any of what we are doing now.
So why now and to this level?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (WdocV)
Dude, this thing is not biblical creeping death, where you are struck down dead instantly.
People get sick, people recover, some needs more aggressive treatment, some die.
This can be managed and mitigated.
You do not tank your economy over this.
This is so insanely disproportionate, it is beyond belief.
Every state I have projects in has stopped all non-essential business operations.
Which means in a weeks time, pretty much 3000 people get laid off.
And In a months time, I get laid off.
My wife works in shipping and logistics.
Every thing is going pear shaped for her.
It continues going pear shaped, she's out of a job in a month's time.
I cannot be dispassionate about this, this is insanity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (FVrDO)
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 11:37 AM (eAZVt)
You won't. It will be filed under "Better safe than sorry."
Posted by: Steve in SoCal
That and "See? Our overreaction kept the deaths to under 300..."
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sLVyZ)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM
It was call for some perspective. Fully aware that there may be no good choices. Certainly no perfect solution. I'm not sure it's a plot, either, because pols aren't entirely blame. It's also the MSM reporting inducing a panic among panicky people who rushed out to create shortages.
Posted by: Hand at March 20, 2020 12:03 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: getting theCOUGHCOUGHHACK at March 20, 2020 12:03 PM (zDFBl)
Posted by: kallisto at March 20, 2020 12:01 PM (kgQKM)
Do you have a fever?
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 12:03 PM (WrOkn)
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 12:03 PM (MRjKr)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ZLI7S)
Is the "Crisis of Global Warming" a plot by every leader in the world except Trump, or is it a serious problem?
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 12:03 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Hahahaha at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (/LQkF)
If you have surgery needed or other debilitating problems your screwed.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (ZCEU2)
482 From 0 to 125,000 cases: 14 weeks
From 125,000 to 250,000 cases: 9 days
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (CQ3Qb)
Sort of like the seasonal flu or the common cold virus, huh?
Posted by: Sooner at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (NVYyb)
no need to go nuts and close the planet down.
Posted by: Pliney at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (nzKWW)
Russia closed their borders.
***
Yep. If we want a serious discussion let start talking about how many years all Chinese nationals will be banned from the US. I open with 10.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (WdocV)
I said western countries. You know as well as anyone that Mexico is a drug cartel posing as a country and it is close to being utterly lawless. Are you saying you want to emulate Mexico?
Russia is a dictatorship. Putin doesn't give a fuck about his people, he cares about keeping the oil flowing.
Seriously, watch Trump's press conference. He is the ultimate capitalist. Do you think he magically became stupid or panicky?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 20, 2020 11:36 AM (ykYG2)
Lotsa innumerates seeing an exponential curve and assuming it will go on forever.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 12:05 PM (ZCEU2)
His first priority is to punish the people. This has nothing to do with safety.
If the high crime areas are locked down, why would I want them thinking they could come to MY area for some breathing room?
Also, looking at the cases is kind of strange. The very few cases have ages, sexes, and a spread that very much match isolated human trafficking and guy-and-girlfriend meth production arrests. In other words, not the numbers and ages and concentrations you would expect of sick people. Nobody in their 60's, 70's, or 80's or little kids.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 12:05 PM (IMdOQ)
Howdy, Morons,
Smoking a 12lb Turkey on my 9/80 off Friday. Been going in to work regularly, spending basically half time in the office and the other half here at home working remotely.
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 20, 2020 12:05 PM (VcFUs)
Sure Mario.
Except for babies in someone's womb. Gun owners. People who run afoul of criminals illegally in the country. Republican. Trump. Melania. People who express a contrary opinion to the Dem/left mindset. People who think children should have to wait to make life changing decisions because they're children. People who don't want to be forced to celebrate a relationship they don't agree with.
And we could go on and on.
GFY you Italian Thug Mafioso looking dirtbag tyrant.
Posted by: jakee308 at March 20, 2020 12:06 PM (1Lhet)
-
Kellyanne Conway@KellyannePolls
Big jump for @realDonaldTrump in new @ABC #poll
"55% of Americans approve of the president's management of the crisis, compared to 43% who disapprove."
Last week #s were reversed: 43% approve; 55% disapprove
Approval among Dems doubled
Programming routines
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 20, 2020 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)
Bro, I'm only repeating what 95% of economists, financial experts, doctors, virologists, and epidemiologists have stated.
Posted by: it begins
And experts have said MILLIONS in the US will die from this.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2020 12:00 PM (sLVyZ)
Yep 95% of experts agree that if Millions! don't die then Trump's policies saved the day! Right ,"it begins"?
LOL Statistics, what can't they prove?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 20, 2020 12:06 PM (FohVc)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (SENHs)
Now you know the early morning panic of every global warmist watching a thermometer.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (IMdOQ)
Posted by: lin-duh at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (UUBmN)
We have created a society afraid of risk. So politicians impose closings and bans and more politicians pile on, trying to out-do each other in the eyes of voters.
They don't care about the consequences. Gov Cuomo isn't personally running out of TP and fresh eggs. The Colorado governor isn't going to lose time at work. And so on.
Also, we live in an internet age where every crisis is ABSOLUTLEY THE WORST THING EVER and we've got to take extreme measures because of fear!
Totally fucked up situation and I have no idea how it will play out. I just Thank God Hillary isn't President.
That's all I have right now.
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (iTXRQ)
At my alma mater, there are 5,700 Chinese nationals out of a total enrollment of 49,000. That's a lot of Chinks!
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (eAZVt)
You mean the one that both China and Russia are ignoring along with us and no other country is actually meeting the goals set by the Paris Accords?
No, of course not.
If you think this is all fake then fine. I don't think Trump is either fooled or lying and he absolutely disagrees with you and he knows a hell of a lot more than either of us what is really happening. And he has earned my trust.
But everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (ZLI7S)
Get a grip folks. Shutting the country down for 8 weeks (or how ever long it is) isn't going to destroy our economy.
Have some faith in ourselves.
I'll be signing out for a few hours or even the weekend. I have enough issues to deal with, without all the doomcasting.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (PHotS)
20% of the world's population infected150K-600K dead.
Current Wuhan Flu numbers
250K infected
10K dead
Should we have done what we are doing now in 2009?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)
20 oz., same as in town.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (1CjJc)
And since its afternoon can one start drinking?
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 11:58 AM (ZLI7S)
It defies reason that the body count wouldn't be higher--especially since the virus has been here since at least December--and given the fact that it was only about a week ago when many people started taking precautions.
I get being proactive.
I don't get making people panic.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: I Am No One at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (rIQuo)
482 From 0 to 125,000 cases: 14 weeks
From 125,000 to 250,000 cases: 9 days
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (CQ3Qb)
Pandemic Cheerleader say what?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (FohVc)
Pam was a bit rocky at first in her roles but by Jackie Brown she was all professional and skilled.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)
I hope the barrel is on lockdown today.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (TYQsd)
Russia is a dictatorship. Putin doesn't give a fuck about his people, he cares about keeping the oil flowing.
Seriously, watch Trump's press conference. He is the ultimate capitalist. Do you think he magically became stupid or panicky?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 12:04 PM (ZLI7S)
Hmmmm.
Russia did not shut down. 'Dictator' Putin has not ordered all his people to stay in their homes, he closed their border.
Now, just where ARE people getting those orders?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (NgKpN)
Hockey stick!
Posted by: Chris M at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (eAZVt)
Again looking at the 2009 flu pandemic
20% of the world's population infected150K-600K dead.
Current Wuhan Flu numbers
250K infected
10K dead
Should we have done what we are doing now in 2009?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:07 PM (WdocV)
Shut your mouth!
Posted by: Barky O Numnuts at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (FohVc)
And In a months time, I get laid off.
My wife works in shipping and logistics.
Every thing is going pear shaped for her.
It continues going pear shaped, she's out of a job in a month's time.
I cannot be dispassionate about this, this is insanity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2020 12:02 PM (FVrDO)
And then, in a months time, all the people and businesses that the 300 of you bought things from start to fail, because you aren't buying anymore. And then all their people get laid off. And then all the banks that are no longer getting any mortgage payments fail, and then sales of everything all up and down the economic ladder come to a screeching halt.
This is how a deflationary death spiral starts, this is why many (like me) are saying this is 1930 all over again. That's the last time something as big as this happened here, and it took 20 years for a full recovery, and a new generation. The old generation never recovered what they had lost.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (V2Yro)
And who are they? Name them. You are a typical trolling mediaite.
You make claim that are unsubstantiated by references. The reason being either you don't have any or you know they are not what we might consider reliable.
Name them or shut up.
Posted by: jakee308 at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (1Lhet)
Minimum results:
Spike in unemployment
many small businesses shutting forever
contraction in first quarter 2020
And that's for starters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (KZzsI)
and bans and more politicians pile on, trying to out-do each other in
the eyes of voters.
***
If the Wuhan flu gets serious every one closing sh*t down gets to run on a platform of "I saved everyone I could look at all the stuff I did!" and if it doesn't get serious every one closing sh*t down gets to run on a platform of "I saved everyone because of all the stuff I did!"
In neither case will the follow up question of "at what cost" be asked.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:10 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: JEM at March 20, 2020 11:40 AM (8erNz)
LOL - way to look for the upside. :-)
Posted by: Iris at March 20, 2020 12:10 PM (lSFe/)
We'll prevail in this.
Take a look through our history In our journey to exceptionalism, we have met and survived situations that have destroyed lesser nations.
Assassinations of our leaders, a civil war, 2 world wars,staggering recessions--all met and resolved.
This current problem will be one more issue we met and prevailed over.
NEVER doubt the country or it's people.. We will prevail because we are Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 20, 2020 12:11 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 12:11 PM (KZzsI)
OH MY GERD
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 20, 2020 12:12 PM (flINI)
***
It is against the law to have sex for money, how about for lysol and charmin?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:12 PM (WdocV)
Now, just where ARE people getting those orders?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (NgKpN)
Russia is pure capitalist now. On the order of "Deadwood".
Putin knows that the money flowing now is much more than when the party ran everything.
Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2020 12:12 PM (mrrpT)
No, it doesn't. We aren't close to the peak yet. There will be more deaths. For the 100th time, we are just starting to do mass testing. It started on Wednesday and the numbers are now starting to grow. Unsurprisingly.
But what do you think all of these sequester rules are about? They are about keeping people separated and slowing the spread, buying time until a treatment can be developed. That really is what this is all about.
Why do you think Trump shutdown travel to China in January? Why did he shutdown travel to Europe and other hot spots? To slow the spread.
Now explain to me why Trump would purposefully and knowingly bring down the economy over a hoax? How would this be helpful to him or us?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2020 12:12 PM (ZLI7S)
but I'm just not convinced that Japan will see the action as America
simply walking away from an obligation it doesn't want to pay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:54 AM (zZbCU)
_________
I've often thought defaulting on our debt would be a feature, not a bug -- as in no other country would risk buying our debt, so the fed.gov would have to stop creating it.
Posted by: ShainS at March 20, 2020 12:12 PM (WqPYg)
How do you make an effective mouse jiggler from common household items?
Posted by: lin-duh at March 20, 2020 12:13 PM (UUBmN)
Assassinations of our leaders, a civil war, 2 world wars,staggering recessions--all met and resolved.
This current problem will be one more issue we met and prevailed over.
NEVER doubt the country or it's people.. We will prevail because we are Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 20, 2020 12:11 PM (KATBx)
The country survived those things - a whole lot of individual American's didn't. A whole lot more survived, but saw their lives and their families destroyed forever. That's what it means to live through a time like this.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 12:13 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2020 12:13 PM (SENHs)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 20, 2020 11:42 AM (sHVgQ)
Presumably they are only testing people who present with symptoms. I don't even know for sure if the present tests can find the WuFlu markers in a person without symptoms. In any case, why waste test materials and time on apparently well people? (except, perhaps, in a limited setting intended to determine the efficacy of such testing)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 12:13 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: Pliney at March 20, 2020 12:14 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Commie.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 12:15 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2020 12:15 PM (SENHs)
Actually, yes, it will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2020 12:15 PM (V2Yro)
-- as in no other country would risk buying our debt, so the fed.gov
would have to stop creating it.
***
Yep. The biggest problem of government isn't actually the portion of our wealth it steals but what it uses that money for.
Imagine a world where the government didn't have the resources to ban plastic bags or force Christians to bake gay cakes because it only has enough money to do things like pave the roads and print the currency....
I want to live in that world.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2020 12:16 PM (WdocV)
The guy doing the swabbing up the nose must have been looking for brain matter. I couldn't believe how far he stuck that thing into her head.
Posted by: jwest at March 20, 2020 12:16 PM (mrrpT)
The true death rate won't be known until the season is almost over. You cannot compute the rate at the beginning because the deaths will be larger at first while the number of people infected will be unknown for quite a while.
Posted by: jakee308 at March 20, 2020 12:17 PM (1Lhet)
I believe it was Churchill who said, "Never have so many bought so much toilet paper for so few". We can become the Greatest-est Generation.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 12:18 PM (gHCnG)
Government action is a trailing indicator of things, not a leading indicator. The government is now entering the hysteria stage the public was at a week or two ago.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 20, 2020 11:27 AM (zZbCU)
Yep, agree. I think we are going to see one of two things within #2weeks:
1) several 100K cases of Wuhan Flu with a big percentage critically ill and about 2K dead
2) it fizzles out and these politicians scramble to take credit
I initially thought it was all total bull$h!t but with President Trump talking about invoking the Defense Production Act to get additional manufacture of ventilators, Vice President Pence's requesting industrial-rated N95 masks be donated to hospitals and seeing the big campaign by the Chicoms (and their running-dog lackeys) to deflect blame, I'm beginning to suspect that they inadvertently unleashed something pretty nasty on the world.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 20, 2020 12:19 PM (00fXp)
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at March 20, 2020 12:20 PM (ftFVW)
I think we will probably do a staggered soft reopen, in one or two weeks (praying)
We already have one known treatment, chloroquine, and there's remdesivir in the pipeline
we may have to do more shutdowns in the future, but hopefully they will be local ones as hotspots crop up
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 20, 2020 12:21 PM (G546f)
We had Omaba for eight years this hasn't been eight weeks.
Give me a break.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 20, 2020 12:22 PM (WrOkn)
Posted by: JT at March 20, 2020 12:23 PM (arJlL)
Yeah the early info was nuts. It turns out the virus isn't nearly as infectious, doesn't last as long on surfaces, or kill as many as originally believed. As more info comes out, I think we'll see how outrageously overblown this was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2020 12:23 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Colin at March 20, 2020 12:24 PM (5BCVL)
Got things to do that I cant get out of, so y'all have the best day you can.
Just remember you live in the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people.
And that we arrived here by virtue of being governed,not ruled, by a political system unique in history.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 20, 2020 12:24 PM (KATBx)
You are truly a lowlife.
Posted by: Chris W at March 20, 2020 12:25 PM (P7iDO)
Posted by: Tom Servo
Food, trucks, gasoline, electricity, and water are running. The country is running, the economy is not destroyed, it's just not making profits. Entire industries will be returning to the US. That's not just jobs, that's careers.
Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2020 12:26 PM (dBiBP)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 12:28 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: lizabth at March 20, 2020 11:30 AM (L3Rsz)
-------------------------------
Yes, Dear Leader.
So we must do this EVERY year for the flu too.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 20, 2020 12:28 PM (M/9m0)
Posted by: CW at March 20, 2020 12:29 PM (cK+uu)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 20, 2020 11:59 AM (TdMsT)
thermite grenade.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 12:30 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2020 12:35 PM (ZCEU2)
And who are they? Name them. You are a typical trolling mediaite.
You make claim that are unsubstantiated by references. The reason being either you don't have any or you know they are not what we might consider reliable.
Name them or shut up.
Posted by: jakee308 at March 20, 2020 12:09 PM (1Lhet)
Post your links to it's being overblown, here are mine.
Chris Martinson at Peak Prosperty. SGTReport. Dr. John Campbell. (YouTube)
Go to /pol/ and begin with the Corona Virus generals and start with #1. 8kun. They are at 2300ish now. Epoch times. Reddit before it was censored. The Lancet. I've posted links to papers punished everywhere. Reddit before it was censored. Twitter before the Chinese censorship. Twitter virologists, scientists, doctors, and epidemiologists. medRvix. BioVix. NEJM. Mr. Metokur (dark humor but he has been on top of things)
https://pastebin.com/raw/qy5RFpVX
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/249190033
Here are more sources.
This guy is really good, a bit technical. The molecular biology is best part, but only every 4th or 5th video.
https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos
Really good china focused web-news. (moron approved.)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBOqkAGTtzZVmKvY4SwdZ2g/videos
Good site for geneology data
https://nextstrain.org/ncov
Steve Bannon's podcast. 1/2 financial, but he is always ahead of the news.
https://pandemic.warroom.org/
Good samizdat out of china
https://twitter.com/phdparody
Jennifer Zeng is reporter for Epoc times. good translated info.
https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd
My favorite update site
https://nucleuswealth.com/articles/updated-coro
navirus-statistics-cases-deaths-mortality-rate/
The only reddit site which is uncensored (so, quarantined.)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wuhan_Flu/
You next, playa!
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 12:37 PM (MRjKr)
Posted by: Weasel at March 20, 2020 12:39 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 20, 2020 12:40 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2020 12:41 PM (SENHs)
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 20, 2020 12:41 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 20, 2020 12:08 PM (CqE5x)
People aren't panicking in real life. People have been remarkably orderly and have their business faces on minimizing risk.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 12:42 PM (MRjKr)
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 11:44 AM (MRjKr)
Commie.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2020 12:15 PM (miJU3)
- Commie
- choosing humanity and human lives over money and the economy
Do you even know how Communism works when applied in real life? Serious question btw.
Posted by: it begins... at March 20, 2020 12:43 PM (MRjKr)
Posted by: politic uber alles at March 20, 2020 01:06 PM (0hOKG)
I don't see much of a plan except "everyone stay home until we have 4 bajillion ventilators". OK, so 4 or 6 months from now, what, everyone just goes back to work? At what job? The employers have all gone bust. Are they just supposed to start right up? We're down and out for a long time.
I don't think the infectious disease people can see outside their laser focus on keeping people from catching this. It's like fighting the Battle of the Bulge in WWII with zero casualties.
I'm theoretically at risk based on my age - so is my wife. And, I've had pneumonia in the past. Our son passed away several month ago so this is a somewhat specious argument, but I can tell you in other circumstances if I was given a choice between me catching this and my son (and potentially grandchildren) having a future, I'll give the kids the chance for a future. I'll be the old folks who can understand the economy would say the same.
Posted by: Name changed to protect the innocent at March 20, 2020 01:22 PM (U2Tva)
didn't we go to the same high school?
Big Hair!
the song "He's So Fine" immediately came to mind
Posted by: m at March 20, 2020 03:38 PM (KXX3K)
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