Has the NYT's editorial decision to emphasize racism changed the way media thinks? [KT]

We have been doing periodic updates since the New York Times announced last August that they would be focusing on "racism" in their news coverage for the next two years, particularly as it related to Donald Trump. Closely associated with this announcement was the announcement of the debut of the historically inaccurate "1619 Project", AKA The Hate America Project.

Here's how Times editorial board member Mara Gay describes the project's mission: "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

QUESTION: Has the NYT's announcement that it would be emphasizing ideology in its news coverage affected how others in the mainstream media think about news stories?

On Thursday night, Mara Gay and MSNBC pretty face Brian Williams agreed that Mike Bloomberg could have given every American a million dollars instead of running for president. I know I'm piling on. But they deserve it.

This is a class warfare spin rather than an identity politics spin. But still, why did no one in that newsroom catch that monumental math error before it went on air? As Remy said,

i would watch a documentary about how this segment happened

Is this the End of Journalism?

How did they come to report on this tweet anyway? I hope that this is not true: Can it be possible that the original tweeter cannot be convinced that Bloomberg does not have 327 trillion dollars?

Back to the New York Times Editorial Board and NBC

A couple of weeks ago, Mara Gay blamed a broken water main in Harlem on President Trump. It's not just on TV that she makes remarkable errors. For an editor of America's Newspaper of Record.

And last July, after Ted Cruz filled Colin Kaepernick in on the context of part of a Frederick Douglass speech which Kaepernick had quoted,

Gay ranted at Cruz, "Frederick Douglass is an American hero, and his name has no business in your mouth."
Cruz had a ready answer, responding, "Let's see. You're on the editorial board of the NYT. You respond to any view you don't like, not with facts or reason, but w/ ad hominem attack. And you seem dismayed that I linked to Douglass's entire speech, so readers can judge for themselves."

She sounds like a real advocate of the First Amendment, doesn't she?

Maybe she should have included more information on Douglass in the 1619 Project, which apparently sort of skips over him.

At the end of January, on MSNBC, she also compared the behavior of Republicans during the impeachment proceedings to politicians defending the Jim Crow South. "I think we're in a very scary moment."

"I think you just spoke for metric tons of our viewers watching tonight after the day we've been through," host Brian Williams responded.

"Metric tons of our viewers." Interesting way to think of an audience.

The 1619 Project - more commentary

The key author of the 1619 Project continues to ignore or dismiss objections from historians.

On August 19 of last year I listened in stunned silence as Nikole Hannah-Jones, a reporter for the New York Times, repeated an idea that I had vigorously argued against with her fact-checker: that the patriots fought the American Revolution in large part to preserve slavery in North America. . . .
Weeks before, I had received an email from a New York Times research editor. Because I'm an historian of African American life and slavery, in New York, specifically, and the pre-Civil War era more generally, she wanted me to verify some statements for the project. At one point, she sent me this assertion: "One critical reason that the colonists declared their independence from Britain was because they wanted to protect the institution of slavery in the colonies, which had produced tremendous wealth. At the time there were growing calls to abolish slavery throughout the British Empire, which would have badly damaged the economies of colonies in both North and South."
I vigorously disputed the claim. Although slavery was certainly an issue in the American Revolution, the protection of slavery was not one of the main reasons the 13 Colonies went to war.

Almost a month before the piece above was published, the NYT defended the 1619 project for its journalistic rigor.

Powerline reported on the 1619 project and the oscars.

Also from Powerline, America's Revolutionary Mind.

David Horowitz, former lefty:

America is unique among nations in being founded on a set of ideas and values rather than having a shared "identity" based on "blood and soil." The founding of America during the revolutionary era 1776 - 1787 was based on principles that provide the sinews of our national identity. They are what create a unity out of the diverse peoples that have settled and occupied this country since its founding. They have been the inspirational force that enabled America to abolish slavery, become a global symbol of freedom, and provide the world's chief bulwark against global tyrannies.
It is this inspirational memory that the political left has set out to erase and destroy. The most disturbing manifestation of this sinister aggression is the so-called "1619 Project," the brainchild of a staff writer at The New York Times, named Nikole Hannah-Jones. It is supported by The Pulitzer Foundation, the Smithsonian Institution and the nation's cultural elite. Six months after its launch, the "1619 Project" Is already a curriculum in 3,500 public high schools in all 50 states. Given the extreme leftwing nature of the teacher unions and the public education establishment, while disturbing this is hardly surprising.

From the New York Post, What the 1619 Project aims to teach your kids.

What the 1619 Project got wrong about Lincoln.

In response to the 1619 Project, other prominent blacks have launched a 1776 project.

Shelby Steele, Robert Woodson, Carol Swain, Clarence Page, and John McWhorter are among the more prominent of the black contributors to this endeavor.

They emphasize a message of unity.

History, MLK Jr., Slavery

From Powerline, MLK yesterday and today. His message is not totally welcome with today's progressives.

Also, the 1619 project on MLK day. And the prophetic voice of MLK.

The 1619 Project is not our first encounter with fake history. Howard Zinn, fake historian.

History, revived? The Lost History of Western Civilization

Ignored history: Islam's hidden role in the transatlantic slave trade. h/t J.J. Sefton

Related? Rotherham and race.

Our Previous Posts triggered by the NYT's August Meeting:

January 18: Media Racism Update, contrasting the efforts of the Democrats to paint themselves as champions of the Constitution with the attacks on the Constitution in the NYT's 1619 Project. More on the 1619 Project's historical errors. Similarity to the communist goal of destroying memory.

Plus an interesting suggestion that it should be illegal to vote for Trump because he is racism personified. Uh-huh.

November 2: What would Frederick Douglass think? The 1619 Project wasn't much interested in Douglass. Reviews of the 1619 Project.

Also, Race-based lunacy in education NOT based in the 1619 Project. Western medicine is colonialism. Discussion of racial preferences in government.

September 28: September Racism and Slavery Update, with analyses of the emerging, ahistorical 1619 Project. Note: Captain John Smith was once a slave.

Plus an effort to pin a racism charge on a Trump appointee.

August 31: Dean Baquet's emergency meeting with his radical staff at the New York Times. This was where the editorial decision to focus on Donald Trump's racism was articulated. Oh. And then there was the 1619 Project.

Music

Been thinking about Tennessee this week, and tornadoes. Is everyone OK?

Gibson plans to donate guitars to musicians whose instruments were lost or damaged in the storms. In 2017, President Trump highlighted Gibson for its production of American products. Sort of a switch from Obama's politically-motivated raid in 2011.

Here's Hank Williams Jr. with Old Nashville Cowboys:

OK, so this isn't exactly Nashville. Probably not very progressive, either:

Hope you have a good weekend. This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:22 AM

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1 "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

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So they're saying slavery was necessary in order to make this great nation?

Huh.

Well, okay. If you insist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:24 AM (krYGQ)

2 Race has been central to leftist strategy, even when cloaked in "class"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2020 11:25 AM (EZebt)

3 great album.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 07, 2020 11:25 AM (0O7c5)

4 In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery.

Pining for the good ol' days, Dems? Should we bring it back?

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 11:26 AM (mhs6e)

5 I'm done with racism. I don't care what anybody thinks. I just want to know what people do.

In the end, that's all that matters. That's my stance from here on out. Anyone wants to talk about racism, I'm not listening. Period.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:27 AM (hku12)

6 Peanut butter?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:28 AM (QZCjk)

7 That's a million slaves for each American.

Posted by: Brain Williams, Anchorman, MSCIA at March 07, 2020 11:29 AM (Ndje9)

8 We're talking Scrooge McDuck swimming pool type money here.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2020 11:29 AM (m45I2)

9 5
I'm done with racism. I don't care what anybody thinks. I just want to know what people do.

In the end, that's all that matters. That's my stance from here on
out. Anyone wants to talk about racism, I'm not listening. Period.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:27 AM (hku12)
amen

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 07, 2020 11:29 AM (0O7c5)

10 ♫ ♪ ♫

A million
Buh billion
Banana fanna fillion
Tree tri tro ... trillion!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2020 11:30 AM (m45I2)

11 This is why Trump has been a timely arrival on the political scene. He is immune to accusations of racism because he had rubbed shoulders as friends with his accusers. Makes their accusations look stupid. No other GOPer could have done it.

Posted by: Jmel at March 07, 2020 11:30 AM (OeWgo)

12 Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand

Pictures a moron in a skin tight, Riddler-green suit (w/mask !) covered in ampersands instead of questions marks...

*** shudders and wanders off for hot tea ***

Posted by: Adriane the Comic Book Critic ... at March 07, 2020 11:31 AM (LPnfS)

13 ^ fo

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 07, 2020 11:31 AM (0O7c5)

14 I forgot to see if I still had ampersand privilege

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Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:32 AM (krYGQ)

15 Banana fanna fillion
...
Posted by: Muldoon at March 07, 2020 11:30 AM (m45I2)

Cut that out!!!

Posted by: Captain Mal Reynolds ... at March 07, 2020 11:32 AM (LPnfS)

16 You will be made to believe...

since the alternative is the camps!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 11:33 AM (BiNEL)

17 The race card is dead.

So is the New York Times. Nicholas Sandman is considering how to spend the inheritance.

Posted by: creeper at March 07, 2020 11:33 AM (XxJt1)

18 Speaking of PowerlineThis Week In Pictures is hysterical especially the Bernie/Biden stuff.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 07, 2020 11:33 AM (QzF6i)

19 Posted by: Moron Robbie
&&??

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 11:33 AM (BiNEL)

20 Those 1619 and 1776 history re-writes are incredible, btw.
It's sort of neat to see the "tear down those statues" approach to social modification in real time.

Democrats = Muslims

Fight me!

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:34 AM (krYGQ)

21 Has the NYT's editorial decision to emphasize racism changed the way media thinks?

Bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:34 AM (YqDXo)

22 Around our place, the first notion brought up by the "Mike Bloomberg/Million Dollar" question was, would you vote for him for a million dollars, and are we just quibbling over price?

I have a list of things I'd do with a spare million. They all have to do with improvements to my property, my car collection, and my gubs. Since Bloomberg is planning to confiscate all of those, no, he can't buy my vote, so his trillions would be better spent elsewhere.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 07, 2020 11:34 AM (8IOEj)

23 Here's how Times editorial board member Mara Gay describes the project's mission: "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

Horseshit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:35 AM (YqDXo)

24 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 07, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)

25 She sounds like a real advocate of the First Amendment, doesn't she?
______

I have no doubt that, in her mind, she is. You have to remember what they think the 1st means. Fredo told us: it means that "the press" is a special group, with privileges beyond those of mere citizens. THEY (and they alone) have the right to express their views. We are obliged to listen, and to know from listening, what to think.

They really do believe that.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 07, 2020 11:35 AM (ZbwAu)

26 With the Detroit Free Piss, practically every story is viewed through the Race/Class/Gender lens. Even the comics.

I wouldn't bury a dead parrot in that rag.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 11:35 AM (Dc2NZ)

27 The Nicholas Brothers and Dorothy Dandridge

She has a great voice and part in that song.

I always thought tap-dancing was lame. These guys show me what it was meant it to be. They're fun to watch.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 11:36 AM (jOEDM)

28 Love that picture of the Jefferson Memorial. It is one of my favorite places in DC. Sitting inside, taking in the brilliant words of Jefferson written on the walls, makes you realize how lucky we are to be living in this country.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 07, 2020 11:36 AM (QzF6i)

29 17 The race card is dead.

So is the New York Times. Nicholas Sandman is considering how to spend the inheritance.
Posted by: creeper at March 07, 2020 11:33 AM (XxJt1)
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Maybe he should buy the NYT.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 11:36 AM (Dc2NZ)

30 BTW, if you think of how many of Brian Williams's viewers are in the Lena Dunham to Trigglypuff range, "metric tons" may be intended as a compliment.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 07, 2020 11:36 AM (ZbwAu)

31 They're really insisting on making things worse, while simultaneously complaining about divisiveness. If I didn't know what they were trying to force us into, I wouldn't understand it at all.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Ridiculous Bullshit at March 07, 2020 11:37 AM (T8HPM)

32 nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery

Sooo....slavery was good?

I can't keep up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:37 AM (gd9RK)

33 And speaking of speech, notice how many accepted Schumer's excuse that he's from Brooklyn, so that's how he speaks.

Howbeit, then, that Brooklyn gets a pass, but Queens does not?

Posted by: Eeyore at March 07, 2020 11:37 AM (ZbwAu)

34 I have no doubt that, in her mind, she is. You have to remember what they think the 1st means. Fredo told us: it means that "the press" is a special group, with privileges beyond those of mere citizens. THEY (and they alone) have the right to express their views. We are obliged to listen, and to know from listening, what to think.

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It makes sense, really. Those same people believe the 2nd Amendment applies to a group of people and not individuals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (krYGQ)

35 Rugby on today. Thank God.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (QZCjk)

36 With the Detroit Free Piss, practically every story is viewed through the Race/Class/Gender lens. Even the comics.

I wouldn't bury a dead parrot in that rag.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Everybody knows ya don't bury dead parrots; ya bring 'em back to the pet store !

Posted by: JT at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (arJlL)

37 Here's how Times editorial board member Mara Gay describes the project's mission: "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

Mara Gay, who obviously has the intellect of a turnip, has not thought this one through. If Africans made America exceptional, then why haven't done that in Africa, where they've lived since Adam first felt up Eve?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (YqDXo)

38 Sooo....slavery was good?

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I'm certain they don't realize that's what they said, but that is absolutely what they said.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (krYGQ)

39 A little early for the Food Thread, but I have a pot of pinto beans simmerin' on the stove. New bean/bacon/onion ratio = 1:1:1.

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:39 AM (MVjcR)

40 I would think even the odd honest leftie would realize they are being ill served by a criminally biased media. (I do understand there are lefties who think the MSM are right wing.)

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 11:39 AM (Uu+Jp)

41 I have no doubt that, in her mind, she is. You have to remember what they think the 1st means. Fredo told us: it means that "the press" is a special group, with privileges beyond those of mere citizens. THEY (and they alone) have the right to express their views. We are obliged to listen, and to know from listening, what to think.

Or as Angela Davis said, "Of course the Party supports free speech. You're free to tell the truth. You're just not free to tell lies."

Oh.

OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:40 AM (YqDXo)

42 "nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery"

except math class, Campaign Finance Barbie.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 07, 2020 11:40 AM (Ndje9)

43 I wouldn't bury a dead parrot in that rag.

Why did you kill your parrot?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:40 AM (gd9RK)

44 The racial situation is far worse now than before Obama's election. But that is a feature not a bug. Their intent is simple and imho transparent, to use race as a wedge to agitate the populace against itself.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2020 11:41 AM (EZebt)

45 38 Sooo....slavery was good?
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I'm certain they don't realize that's what they said, but that is absolutely what they said.
Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (krYGQ)

It's worse than that. The implication is that Africans can't do anything without being organized (and coerced) by the white man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:41 AM (YqDXo)

46 > I wouldn't bury a dead parrot in that rag.

Why did you kill your parrot?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:40 AM (gd9RK)

...to get to the other side?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 11:41 AM (t+qrx)

47 >>The race card is dead.

Hard as it is for many to believe we are winning. Big hole to dig out of and it's going to take time but the left is confused and in retreat.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2020 11:41 AM (ZLI7S)

48 If the NYT were actually serious about the race issue, the editorial board might have considered doing an expose on how set-asides and quotas were gamed by people such as Elizabeth Warren. At this point, I have long ago tuned this crap out. Fatigued.

Posted by: Old Dude at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (LGXGf)

49 I wouldn't bury a dead parrot in that rag.

Why did you kill your parrot?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:40 AM (gd9RK)

'e's not dead, 'e's sleeping, 'e's pining for the fjords.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (Uu+Jp)

50 I'm done with any and all Racism based polemics. To me at this point racism is just another way of being a small minded jerk, like militant atheism, militant homosexuality, islam, multi-level marketing and socialism. And NASCAR.

Posted by: Minuteman at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (0dQHA)

51 bean/bacon/onion ratio = 1:1:1

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You're saying you've got a strip of bacon for each bean and piece of diced onion?

I support this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (krYGQ)

52 Weasel - try my favorite - Glory Butter Beans on rice topped with Chow Chow.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:43 AM (QZCjk)

53 "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

Dayum, they really have mastered Cognitive Dissonance!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 11:44 AM (BiNEL)

54 Here's how Times editorial board member Mara Gay describes the project's mission: "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."
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Horseshit.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:35 AM (YqDXo)

Somebody somewhere said something something about history and being doomed to repeat it...

But I don't think "doomed" is how they see it. I believe they're HOPING to repeat it, only THIS time they're the slavemasters.

So we're gonna brainswash a few generations into believing their nation was founded on slaves and hate. Then conquering it will be super easy, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)

55 "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish ~~essays~~ brainless agitprop ~~demonstrating~~ ridiculously asserting against all reality that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:44 AM (YqDXo)

56 At this point, I have long ago tuned this crap out. Fatigued.
Posted by: Old Dude at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (LGXGf)

The only people who haven't are bands of roving SJWs sniping at and denouncing each other for pack supremacy. Nobody cares any more.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 11:44 AM (t+qrx)

57 repost da willered

475 Oh hey Muldoon

KTE showed me this webtoon and I thought you might enjoy it
https://preview.tinyurl.com/t7hobzk

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 11:44 AM (G546f)

58 I want a vintage Gibson ukulele. Like 1920s but they're like gold.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (Orx/W)

59 I'm done with any and all Racism based polemics. To me at this point racism is just another way of being a small minded jerk, like militant atheism, militant homosexuality, islam, multi-level marketing and socialism. And NASCAR.
Posted by: Minuteman at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (0dQHA)

You left out CrossFit and veganism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (YqDXo)

60 54 Here's how Times editorial board member Mara Gay describes the project's mission: "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."
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Maybe they're saying slavery is a good thing because it produced a great thing. And yes, I'm being sarcastic.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (Uu+Jp)

61 bean/bacon/onion ratio = 1:1:1
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You're saying you've got a strip of bacon for each bean and piece of diced onion?

I support this.
Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:42 AM (krYGQ)
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Not a whole strip, but by weight, pretty much! It's more like bacon onion and bean stew. With garlic. The Palatial Weasel Estate smells good!

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (MVjcR)

62 In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery.

Libya must be sensational, then!

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (f6lTY)

63 Yeah I have seen 1619 commercials.

Bull.Fucking.Shit.My.Ass.

Posted by: jsg at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (JIkuv)

64 The military, considered a right wing bastion, is one of the most egalitarian places to work. You'll rub shoulders with people from all over, and of various ethnicities, for the same shit pay.

It's a lot less monochromatic than the newsrooms and universities where these po-faced pearl-clutchers play.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (Dc2NZ)

65 Weasel - try my favorite - Glory Butter Beans on rice topped with Chow Chow.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:43 AM (QZCjk)

Better yet, use Pow Wow Chow!

Posted by: Failed Semi-Indian Author E Warren at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (BiNEL)

66 "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

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You can take the Democrat out of the mid-1800s, but you can't take the mid-1800s out of the Democrat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (krYGQ)

67 True Pundit* is reporting there is credible evidence in the wake of CPAC that pence might get bumped over to Sec Def and Nikki Haley would take his place on the ticket.
*I don't know anything about the source, they seem legit.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (7Fj9P)

68 I want a vintage Gibson ukulele. Like 1920s but they're like gold.

Heavy ?

Posted by: JT at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (arJlL)

69 If Africans made America exceptional, then why haven't done that in Africa, where they've lived since Adam first felt up Eve?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (YqDXo)
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Oh, that's easy. White people effed the place up.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (PD1/H)

70 Howbeit, then, that Brooklyn gets a pass,

Letters to the Editor in the NY Post today were uniformly angry at Schumer including one woman originally from Brooklyn who wrote:

As a Jewish woman, born and bred in Brooklyn, I am furious at Schumer's excuse for his menacing threats to Supreme Court Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh....He claims Brooklynites "speak in strong language". That language does not describe mine at all."

I guess tomorrow they'll have the "It wasn't so bad" letters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2020 11:47 AM (WI7YS)

71 The thing about slaves building America is ridiculous.

Slaves were agricultural workers and domestic help, i.e., menial laborers. It's not like they were designing and building bridges, or inventing the electrical grid.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:47 AM (YqDXo)

72 Clarence Page is out against "1619"? that is huge. Page was a (very) Left voice in the Houston editorial pages over the 1990s. Not a race-war white-hater like Carl Rowan but still Left. He supported Obama too (as did McWhorter iirc).

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 07, 2020 11:47 AM (ykYG2)

73 65 Weasel - try my favorite - Glory Butter Beans on rice topped with Chow Chow.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:43 AM (QZCjk)

Better yet, use Pow Wow Chow!
Posted by: Failed Semi-Indian Author E Warren at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (BiNEL)
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I use the beans with rice during the week for dinner. Delightful! You people should really try to be more like me.

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:47 AM (MVjcR)

74 If we assume the average viewer weighs 150 lbs, and we round up- a metric to in 15 people. Seems legit.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 07, 2020 11:48 AM (S2+8Y)

75 hubby must be excited about Ozarks season 3
he's rewatching the season 2 finale

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 11:48 AM (G546f)

76 Don't get me started on veganism. Or onanism. Or University of Trnnessee fans.

Posted by: Minuteman at March 07, 2020 11:48 AM (0dQHA)

77 > I want a vintage Gibson ukulele. Like 1920s but they're like gold.

Heavy ?
Posted by: JT at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (arJlL)

You can only get one by challenging the devil to a ukulele duel.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 11:48 AM (t+qrx)

78 Mekita Rivas' tweets are protected.

Her twitter bio says 'I know, I'm bad at math.'

Looks like it's gotten to her.

But will people wonder, including herself, whether someone so innumerate is really the kind of Big Thinker that needs to be listened to on public policy?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 07, 2020 11:48 AM (oVJmc)

79 It was only a few weeks ago that CNN's Don Lemon was laughing himself stupid for several minutes about how gosh-darned uneducated Trump supporters (read: Middle America) are. Can someone please do a mash-up video of Don Lemon laughing at Mara Gay's math fail?

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (Yn6WC)

80 ... a metric ton is... ><

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (S2+8Y)

81 75 hubby must be excited about Ozarks season 3
he's rewatching the season 2 finale

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 11:48 AM (G546f)

Netflix?

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (Orx/W)

82 I don't want a National Divorce.

I want to bring back insane asylums. Also leper colonies for Socialists and Commies.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (RkalO)

83 Not a whole strip, but by weight, pretty much! It's more like bacon onion and bean stew. With garlic. The Palatial Weasel Estate smells good!

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM (MVjcR)

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That's a good idea and one I might try at some point. I prefer white beans like navy or northern because I'm a racist, but I'm not above some pinto beans.

Our family uses half kidney/half pinto in our chili, so they tend to remind me of that too much to use in many other dishes served with cornbread and such.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (krYGQ)

84 I just made steak and eggs. You know what's good about steak and eggs? Steak. And eggs.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (gd9RK)

85 Commies never stop.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (uEbPt)

86 They emphasize a message of unity.

Well, we can't have that now, can we?

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (EgshT)

87 True Pundit* is reporting there is credible evidence in the wake of CPAC that pence might get bumped over to Sec Def and Nikki Haley would take his place on the ticket.
*I don't know anything about the source, they seem legit.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (7Fj9P)

What happened at CPAP?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)

88 Weasel - try my favorite - Glory Butter Beans on rice topped with Chow Chow.
Posted by: Mel Gibson

I know where to get the beans and the rice, but where do you get your dog?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (wUw5H)

89 Also leper colonies for Socialists and Commies.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (RkalO)

North American Dignity Canal.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (t+qrx)

90 Yeah,basically they're saying slavery made America great

Democrats, defending slavery through the ages

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (G546f)

91 Weasel - try my favorite - Glory Butter Beans on rice topped with Chow Chow.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:43 AM (QZCjk)
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I will say the Glory products are muy bueno. The Glory green beans are great with boiled red potatoes and steak on the grill. When my shooting buddy comes down to the farm we have that a lot.

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (MVjcR)

92 Weasel have you thought adding lard?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (QZCjk)

93 Democrats, defending slavery through the ages
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (G546f)

To be fair, Democrats are also misogynist. Nancy Pelosi just said so.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 11:51 AM (t+qrx)

94 Oh, that's easy. White people effed the place up.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 07, 2020 11:46 AM (PD1/H)

I've got a response to that nonsense, too. Africans lived in Africa since Lucy was in the 'hood at Olduvai Gorge. Europeans only colonized Africa (apart from a few cities on the coast) starting in 1880. At that point, no Europeans even knew what the interior of Africa was like ("Dr. Livingstone, I presume?").

So colonialism began in 1880, and ended around 1960. OK. Now account for the preceding 500,000 years.

I've been reading W.E.B. du Bois's book "The Negro," and frankly, it's kind of sad. To hear him tell it, Al Sharpton failed to give Negroes any credit for inventing anything.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:51 AM (YqDXo)

95 I don't know anything about the source, they seem legit.

He just said in that town hall "...to do so would be incredibly disloyal- he's done a great job!"

Loyalty is a big thing to Trump.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 11:51 AM (8ruUE)

96 What happened at CPAP?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)
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Snoring was suppressed.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (PD1/H)

97 I would love to see Nikki on the ticket. In leather. And lace. And maybe stompy boots.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (gd9RK)

98 The thing about slaves building America is ridiculous.

Slaves were agricultural workers and domestic help, i.e., menial laborers. It's not like they were designing and building bridges, or inventing the electrical grid.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:47 AM (YqDXo)

I'm not reading their crap, but I can't imagine that's what they're saying. I assume they're saying America was founded by slaveholders, and thus the ideas that emanated from them is so infused with the culture of slavery, that all of it, all the ideas, all the actions, all the structure that was being created was done so to perpetuate the slavemasters' way of life.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

99 What happened at CPAP?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)

Everyone got a good night's sleep?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (BiNEL)

100 "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating
that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of
slavery."

Actually this is a nice change from the point of view from the 90's where the extreme party line was that "everything that has made America Exceptional was done by homosexuals"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (6rS3m)

101 Just looking through some ukes on Sam Ash and they have a strat one for 199. No reviews but it looks cool.

Posted by: jsg at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (JIkuv)

102 Breaking Racist News Update:

Hotel in China holding Wuhan coronavirus victims in quarantine collapses, 70 trapped in the rubble

Around 70 people were trapped after a hotel collapsed in China's eastern Fujian province on Saturday evening, officials said.

Xinjia Hotel in Quanzhou City collapsed around 7.30 pm (11:30 GMT) and at least 23 people had been rescued by 9pm, according to a local government statement.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (TQ/zJ)

103 Weasel have thought of adding sugartits?

Posted by: Drunk Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (0dQHA)

104 Over 100:

There's a Sugartit legal moonshine. I think it's produced in SC.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (krYGQ)

105 92 Weasel have you thought adding lard?
Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (QZCjk)
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I have considered a ham hock but plain oil' bacon seems easier.

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (MVjcR)

106 85 Commies never stop.
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (uEbPt)

Well....

Posted by: Dead Stalin at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (JIkuv)

107 Well, I can say that the NYT Editorial Board decision has in no way changed the way I look at Sciatica Girl, so there's that.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (dfRN6)

108 Eris: "po-faced pearl clutchers"

Pure poetry.

Posted by: creeper at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (XxJt1)

109 Heh. Fake Chinese hospital built to quarantine COVID19 patients collapses.

No deaths reported. Paper mache doesn't weigh much.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at March 07, 2020 11:54 AM (RkalO)

110 103 Weasel have thought of adding sugartits?
Posted by: Drunk Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (0dQHA)
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No, but I'm willing to experiment!

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:54 AM (MVjcR)

111 I don't appreciate the billboards that make me have to explain it to my kids, though.

I know that ship has sailed, sadly, but jeez society, can we maybe not have cursing on bumperstickers and adult themes on ads on the side of the road?

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:54 AM (krYGQ)

112 all the structure that was being created was done so to perpetuate the slavemasters' way of life.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

So it's like there is an inherent incestuous privileged "ruling" politico-business class in the US that deserves to be in charge of everything and leech off the people that actually do productive things?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 11:55 AM (BiNEL)

113 For those with even a passing interest in auto racing, the second season of "F1, Season on the Edge" is out. My daughter and I watched season 1 together, and it's really some amazing TV. It gets inside the drivers, teams and their personalities, with a good amount of driving between. Oh, and Louis Hamilton is only shown a couple of times. He appears to be an aloof prick. I can't recommend it enough. (Netflix)

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 07, 2020 11:56 AM (7Fj9P)

114 I wonder if any of these news agencies have unpaid interns?

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:56 AM (krYGQ)

115 You guys know finding lard these days is hard?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:56 AM (QZCjk)

116
Hotel in China holding Wuhan coronavirus victims in quarantine collapses, 70 trapped in the rubble

China, superpower.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 07, 2020 11:56 AM (oVJmc)

117 Perfect eg. on Fox. Two stories on images as reported by Shannon Breem. Spilt screen of confederate flag and images of DJT as Rambo, Cpt America. etc.
For 1 minute flag and the Donald are shown together. Stories are not related at all.
Virginia guys are flying large CSA flag and local govt wants them to remove it.
The illustrations guy is in another state and supports the president. Racism always on the menu.

Posted by: blue sun at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (WX+x0)

118 Besides the math, there's this issue that I always see with the leftists. They think someone like Bloomberg, Bezos, Gates, etc, all have a vault like Scrooge McDuck filled with money that they could just take. The concept that their net worth is based on the value of a business is an alien concept to them. In fact, Bloomberg's net worth is a total guesstimate, since it's a private company. And even if a company like Amazon is technically valued at $100B+ on paper, that hardly means that Bezos could start selling all that stock without cratering the stock price.

Posted by: Rick Happ at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (sLZbP)

119 I'm not reading their crap, but I can't imagine that's what they're saying. I assume they're saying America was founded by slaveholders, and thus the ideas that emanated from them is so infused with the culture of slavery, that all of it, all the ideas, all the actions, all the structure that was being created was done so to perpetuate the slavemasters' way of life.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

Good point. That probably is their argument. It's kind of an intellectual "corruption of the blood" argument. So we should only take seriously the views of people who have never sinned? Kinda narrows down the field a bit, doesn't it?

How about the views of Karl Marx on race, hmmm? Or Che Guevara on race, and homosexuality? Shouldn't we therefore reject all leftist viewpoints?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (YqDXo)

120 88
Weasel - try my favorite - Glory Butter Beans on rice topped with Chow Chow.

Posted by: Mel Gibson

I know where to get the beans and the rice, but where do you get your dog?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2020 11:50 AM (wUw5H)

*****LMAO! Thank you for a sorely needed laugh.

Posted by: creeper at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (XxJt1)

121 In all seriousness, it's still pretty easy to find lard in grocery stores down here in the South.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (krYGQ)

122 all the structure that was being created was done so to perpetuate the slavemasters' way of life.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

So it's like there is an inherent incestuous privileged "ruling" politico-business class in the US that deserves to be in charge of everything and leech off the people that actually do productive things?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 11:55 AM (BiNEL)

Yeah, I think that's it. There's the "elite" that has ruled since the country's founding... and now it's their turn. Because YOUR elites built theirs on the backs of slaves.

And theirs will too, only this time the slaves will be a lighter shade of pale.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (hku12)

123 The flu hospital in Wuhan just collapsed. 70 people trapped. The ChiComs hold on power could be slipping.

Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (0x00j)

124 There's a Sugartit legal moonshine. I think it's produced in SC.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (krYGQ)

Reidville SC, which is right next to...Sugar Tit.

Posted by: BignJames at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (X/Pw5)

125 None of the liberals caught the math error because you have to be bad at math to be liberal. Warren and Sanders both want to spend Quintillions of dollars that we don't have. Nancy Pelosi claimed Americans were going lose like 600 billion jobs a few years ago. Before Joe Biden started going senile, he was still retarded.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (h1jJh)

126 I want a vintage Gibson ukulele. Like 1920s but they're like gold.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 07, 2020 11:45 AM

I used to know a banjo player from up in NC who had a vintage (early 50s) Gibson Mastertone banjo. We were in the Gibson store in Opry Mills Mall and he was trying out their latest models and kept rejecting them. "Nope, the sound's not good enough." Finally, the exasperated salesman pulled down their top-of-the-line gold-plated model.

"Nope, still doesn't sound as good as mine."

So he goes and gets his out of the truck, and plays it for the store's staff and lets them play it some, too.

Their response?

"Yeah, we can't make anything that sounds like that anymore."

Allegedly the tone ring internal to that line of banjos was made from slices of surplus 5-inch gun barrels that were scrapped after WWII. Which would explain why the thing weighed about 25 pounds.

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (OMsf+)

127 No, it looks like it was an already-standing hotel commandeered by the health authorities (like Justin here ordering hotels to take in Syrian "refugees"). Although who knows what the "recent conversions" were. (Adding a new storey?!)

Still, Chinese construction standards! Woo-Hee!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (TQ/zJ)

128 Reidville SC, which is right next to...Sugar Tit.

Posted by: BignJames at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (X/Pw5)

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We drive down to Atlanta pretty often. My favorite is Fairplay. I think that's such a great name for a town.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (krYGQ)

129 Besides the math, there's this issue that I always see with the leftists. They think someone like Bloomberg, Bezos, Gates, etc, all have a vault like Scrooge McDuck filled with money that they could just take.

Ah, the Peggy Joseph school of economics.

Someone should interview that nitwit again now. So, Peggy, did Obama pay all of your bills from his "stash?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (YqDXo)

130 I have considered a ham hock but plain oil' bacon seems easier.
Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2020 11:53 AM (MVjcR)

Smoked trotters from the freezer case, you can find them next to the blocks of frozen tripe.

Stay away from the tripe by the way. It boils out some snow white fat, but the whole thing smells like the inside of a cow.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 11:59 AM (6rS3m)

131 It's interesting: for all their talk about being a "Big Tent Party", their (democrats) two (really one) finalists are two acerbic old white guys mired in the failed politics of the past. No new ideas, just keep beating a dead horse

Posted by: Old Dude at March 07, 2020 11:59 AM (LGXGf)

132 I would love to see Nikki on the ticket. In leather. And lace. And maybe stompy boots.
======================
That wouldn't hurt my feelings. I'd also like to see her debate Tank Abrams, or whoever Sloe Joe picks.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 07, 2020 11:59 AM (7Fj9P)

133 If you go to the foo-foo *fancy* stores like The Fresh Market they have several different types of lard. So do the Polish stores here in Chicagoland as well as Woodmans in Illinois and Wisconsin.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at March 07, 2020 12:00 PM (a4qVe)

134 Someone should interview that nitwit again now. So, Peggy, did Obama pay all of your bills from his "stash?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (YqDXo)

Supposedly someone did, a few years ago, and she'd since had a wakeup.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 12:01 PM (t+qrx)

135 Wow, I've never seen fancy lard. I'd like to have a look.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:01 PM (krYGQ)

136 Newspapers: Because giving you actual news is irrelevant.

(Seriously, around these parts everyone and their pet cat knows that if you want local news WaPo is not the place to go.)

Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 12:01 PM (nRNOc)

137 Hotel in China holding Wuhan coronavirus victims in quarantine collapses, 70 trapped in the rubble

Still a third-world commie shithole.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at March 07, 2020 12:02 PM (EgshT)

138 None of the liberals caught the math error because you have to be bad at math to be liberal. Warren and Sanders both want to spend Quintillions of dollars that we don't have. Nancy Pelosi claimed Americans were going lose like 600 billion jobs a few years ago. Before Joe Biden started going senile, he was still retarded.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM (h1jJh)

This.

Liberals just pull numbers out of their asses, as my liberal interlocutor (the one who claimed carbon formed in the earth's crust) claimed that "100,000 scientists believe in global warming."

All of these observations support the contention that liberals use crow counting: "one, two, three, many."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:02 PM (YqDXo)

139 You guys know finding lard these days is hard?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 11:56 AM (QZCjk)

You never heard of "Crisco"?

Posted by: BignJames at March 07, 2020 12:03 PM (X/Pw5)

140 Daily Mail link on hotel/hospital collapse with video; Coronavirus reports and photos from around the world...
https://tinyurl.com/rytf8ex

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:03 PM (TQ/zJ)

141 Someone should interview that nitwit again now. So, Peggy, did Obama pay all of your bills from his "stash?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM

https://tinyurl.com/ubmky55

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:03 PM (OMsf+)

142 Crap, should have read the article, the China collapse was a hotel in Jian.

Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 12:03 PM (0x00j)

143 Supposedly someone did, a few years ago, and she'd since had a wakeup.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 12:01 PM (t+qrx)

Really? That's heartening.

Unless, of course, she now supports Bernie because he'll pay all of her bills from his stash, unlike that deadbeat Obama, who stiffed her.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:03 PM (YqDXo)

144 I've never considered it, but I bet lard can be shortening, but shortening can't be lard.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:04 PM (krYGQ)

145 123 The flu hospital in Wuhan just collapsed. 70 people trapped. The ChiComs hold on power could be slipping.
Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (0x00j)

The cure is worse than the disease

Posted by: Dead Stalin at March 07, 2020 12:04 PM (JIkuv)

146 Lard used to be right next to the Crisco.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (QZCjk)

147 I've never considered it, but I bet lard can be shortening, but shortening can't be lard.
Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:04 PM (krYGQ)
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That's very Zen-like.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (PD1/H)

148 Mammy's little baby loves shortnin', shortnin'...

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (EgshT)

149 141 Someone should interview that nitwit again now. So, Peggy, did Obama pay all of your bills from his "stash?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:58 AM

https://tinyurl.com/ubmky55
Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:03 PM (OMsf+)

Interesting. Thanks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (YqDXo)

150 It was from quite a while ago but there's video of a Greenpeacer (or similar) telling their agents to lie about stats when they're doing TV interviews because we know the MSM dicks will never fact-check you on it during or after the interview.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (TQ/zJ)

151 The NYT publishes a lot of racist horse hockey, because they themselves are racist. They are Democrats and Democrats gave us every racist law, every racist trope, every racist practice we in the USA have had or still have.
When you have to check a box about your racial make up, that was put there by a Democrat. If you see an old law about how it is illegal for a white to marry a black or vice versa, Democrats made those laws. Same with segregated schools, segregated anything. Democrats. The Democrats are the party of racism and slavery, still today.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (w7KSn)

152 Thanks andycanuck for the link.

Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 12:05 PM (0x00j)

153 I wonder if any of these news agencies have unpaid interns?
Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:56 AM (krYGQ)

I'm reasonably certain, if you apply for an internship in Big Media, you know you are going to be on your knees a lot. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Norah O'Donnell has had to clean so much spooge out of her hair and eyelashes... and now she gets her netherhorn polished by some 20 year old interns.

It's how the business works. Everyone in it knows. And when an occasional Matt Lauer or Chris Mathews gets outed, it's like the unlucky wildebeest on the Serengeti, being pulled down by a pack of lions. The other wildebeest are spooked, not just by the carnage, but the fact they know it coulda been them.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:06 PM (hku12)

154 Speaking of, did the rate of whatever scary diseases decrease at all after trans fats were removed from foods that tasted good?

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:06 PM (krYGQ)

155 Crisco is cotton seed oil. Lard is pork fat.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:06 PM (QZCjk)

156 WallyWorlds have lard, at least in places with some Messican population. I give a couple tablespoons to our Sharpei cross dog. He came with dry itchy skin. I'm too lazy to bake pies and have plenty of tasty bacon grease for frying needs.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 07, 2020 12:07 PM (cDw3P)

157 Lard was any rendered animal fat originally iirc.

Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 12:09 PM (0x00j)

158 154 Speaking of, did the rate of whatever scary diseases decrease at all after trans fats were removed from foods that tasted good?
Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:06 PM (krYGQ)

No, of course not. We still lacked net neutrality, and suffered from AGW.

Bonus question: what proportion of the American population has the faintest idea what a "trans fat" actually is? I'll go further: make it ANY "fat."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:09 PM (YqDXo)

159 Hotel in China holding Wuhan coronavirus victims in quarantine collapses, 70 trapped in the rubble
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Back in 2008 when the Sichuan earthquake hit, and public schools and hospitals collapsed into powder, this shoddy workmanship was called "tofu buildings".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 12:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

160 Groupthink has a way of spreading their gospel exactly as they planned.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:10 PM (ZCEU2)

161 Reparations through abortion. There's some math.

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (RuIsu)

162 In all seriousness, it's still pretty easy to find lard in grocery stores down here in the South.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (krYGQ)

I think Hispanic markets usually have it.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (BiNEL)

163
"In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery."

The Apollo program was initiated to establish slavery on the Moon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (aKsyK)

164 The cure is worse than the disease

Posted by: Dead Stalin
See? In North Korea shooting a Coronavirus carrier just employs one executioner and a very modest number of bullet manufacturers and their jobs.

In China, a building collapse employs alot more people -- cleanup crews, new architects and engineers, rebuilding crews etc. That's why Communism mixed with Capitalism works in China and we should be doing it here too!

Posted by: thomas friedman at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (TQ/zJ)

165 1. Get Coronavirus
2. Go to Hospital
3. Hospital Collapses
4. SonBitchShit !

Posted by: jsg at March 07, 2020 12:12 PM (JIkuv)

166 HAHAHAHA

"We find that trans fat bans reduce CVD deaths by 12 per 100,000 persons, reduce heart disease deaths by 9.5 per 100,000 persons, and reduce stroke deaths by 2.6 per 100,000 persons. "

Yay. Thank goodness everyone has to eat bland, tasteless foods so we reduce deaths by... carry the one...

0.008%

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:12 PM (krYGQ)

167 You're welcome, Kazi.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:12 PM (TQ/zJ)

168 Better Peggy Joseph: https://youtu.be/bUHoAaDlhDo

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:13 PM (OMsf+)

169 Last time I read the NYT, either in print or online, was forever ago. Even when a copy is right there at my fingertips. They are dead to me.

Posted by: m at March 07, 2020 12:13 PM (oGFm1)

170 Lard is in the "Dairy" section, next to butter. It comes in one pound bricks and sometimes three pound tubs. But it may be labeled "mantequa", which is Spanish for lard.

Posted by: creeper at March 07, 2020 12:13 PM (XxJt1)

171 Link:

https://tinyurl.com/upehchb

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:14 PM (krYGQ)

172 This all seems profoundly Maoist--re-education, criticism, self criticism. At heart it is vicious.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 12:14 PM (Uu+Jp)

173 The true epicurean larder has heritage breed lard AND duck fat spray.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 12:14 PM (Dc2NZ)

174 You guys know finding lard these days is hard?

WalMart has the Armour lard ($5 for 4 lbs, I think? White container with a green label), although you can also buy it thru Amazon. I'm lucky that I can buy locally, though, so I prefer to do that.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 12:14 PM (elfAG)

175 "Manteca" not mantequa

Posted by: creeper at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (XxJt1)

176 Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

Good point. That probably is their argument. It's kind of an intellectual "corruption of the blood" argument. So we should only take seriously the views of people who have never sinned? Kinda narrows down the field a bit, doesn't it?

How about the views of Karl Marx on race, hmmm? Or Che Guevara on race, and homosexuality? Shouldn't we therefore reject all leftist viewpoints?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:57 AM (YqDXo)

That's where one has to be careful, or you end up fighting on their turf. The "your founders are worse than ours" is a battle that concedes the point, that ideas must be tested first by the purity of who came up with them.

So it isn't necessary to point out that Marx was a filthy, anti-Semitic pig who treated everyone around him like his personal slaves. It only needs to be shown that his ideas were bunk, written 20 years after the problem he is addressing was already solved by capitalists who benefited from improved working conditions for their employees.

He was just flat out wrong. Period.

And they're not teaching that fact in schools... or the NY Slimes. They're teaching instead, you are bad because your founders were bad, so everything that came from them is bad. Including you. So off to the camps.

The logic in there is pure and simple. And it might work.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

177 Isn't that enough lard to give everyone in the U.S. one million pounds each, Robbie?? I think I heard that in the MSM.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (TQ/zJ)

178 The Apollo program was initiated to establish slavery on the Moon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (aKsyK)

And maintain it in VA and TX.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (qyH+l)

179 Last time I read the NYT, either in print or online, was forever ago. Even when a copy is right there at my fingertips. They are dead to me.
Posted by: m at March 07, 2020 12:13 PM (oGFm1)

To be fair, I'm still using pages from my 2015 Black Friday edition of the NYT as a firestarter aid for my wood stove. I think this is the only useful purpose I have found for the NYT since my parrot died.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 12:17 PM (BiNEL)

180 Something called Mantica that you put in your mouth sounds gay.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:17 PM (QZCjk)

181 How does a hotel just fall down?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2020 12:18 PM (aKsyK)

182 The Apollo program was initiated to establish slavery on the Moon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (aKsyK)

And maintain it in VA and TX.
Posted by: Fox2! at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (qyH+l)

Not many people remember the Old Negro Space Program these days.

https://youtu.be/T6xJzAYYrX8

Posted by: hogmartin at March 07, 2020 12:18 PM (t+qrx)

183 Back in 2008 when the Sichuan earthquake hit, and public schools and hospitals collapsed into powder, this shoddy workmanship was called "tofu buildings".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 12:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

We should definitely have these people produce our pharmaceuticals. They probably brew them up in a trash can, stirring with a broom handle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:18 PM (YqDXo)

184 all this crazy revisionist history bullshit makes me see red.

It's a good thing I'm off to meet Mark at the range in a coupla minutes.

I'm so tired of being told I should feel guilty. Guilty for what, exactly?

Being forced to raise my two boys without support for their father?
Being abused by my parents and coaches?
Surviving cancer?

These motherfuckers need to shut up about how I should feel. If they are so damn upset, why don't they actually DO something productive? How about protecting the 100s of thousands of little black babies that never get to live because of abortion? How about all those black children who attempt to grow up without fathers? How about all those black kids who are incarcerated because they don't know anyhting but the thug life that is presented to them as a measure of success by the rappers and the thug sports stars they are encouraged to emulate?

Sorry,
rant/off

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 07, 2020 12:18 PM (PkVlr)

185 See some of those old puddings loved by Jack Aubrey use lard.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:18 PM (ZCEU2)

186 Posted by: Dead Stalin
See? In North Korea shooting a Coronavirus carrier just employs one executioner and a very modest number of bullet manufacturers and their jobs.

In China, a building collapse employs alot more people -- cleanup crews, new architects and engineers, rebuilding crews etc. That's why Communism mixed with Capitalism works in China and we should be doing it here too!
Posted by: thomas friedman at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (TQ/zJ)

So Maoism is better than Stalinism?

Posted by: Fox2! at March 07, 2020 12:19 PM (qyH+l)

187 182 The Apollo program was initiated to establish slavery on the Moon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (aKsyK)

I thought it was established to search for alien bases.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 12:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

188 1. Get Coronavirus
2. Go to Hospital
3. Hospital Collapses
4. SonBitchShit !
Posted by: jsg at March 07, 2020 12:12 PM (JIkuv)

Back in the day, they used to say 1 in 4 babies born were Chinese. Thank God I'm not Chinese. My siblings though, I don't know about them. One of them might have got it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:19 PM (hku12)

189 That's where one has to be careful, or you end up fighting on their turf. The "your founders are worse than ours" is a battle that concedes the point, that ideas must be tested first by the purity of who came up with them.

Good point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:19 PM (YqDXo)

190 181 A little at first then all at once.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:20 PM (QZCjk)

191 My Depression and Postwar Era mom cooked with real lard probably into the '80s when she switched to Crisco or the like.

A French-Canadian university roommate of mine's mom cooked with lard too. I recall him saying that once when they were in the States (I assume for a fair time because she was doing some cooking) he said she couldn't find it in the grocery-store but asked the butcher for it directly and he got her some that they usually disposed of and didn't sell.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:20 PM (TQ/zJ)

192 all right I started to write a rambling complaint about my boss, but short version. Bless his heart, and I wish I was better able to track obj. oriented code so I could fix his 'bugs' instead of trying to get him to do it.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 07, 2020 12:20 PM (cDw3P)

193 legalinsurrection.com/iran coronavirus kills the butcher of tehran
Tee hee hee

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (ZCEU2)

194 >>Back in 2008 when the Sichuan earthquake hit, and public schools and hospitals collapsed into powder, this shoddy workmanship was called "tofu buildings".

I got to tour the new University of Macau 2 years after it was built. The construction quality was piss poor. It was already starting to come apart and it basically wasn't even fully open yet.

Looks great from a distance though.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (ZLI7S)

195 One thing I wish we would all do --- and yeah, I know old habits die hard --- is stop using the word "liberal."

If you use it in the sense of "classical liberal," you will not be understood. If you use it in the sense of "leftist," you lie.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (M/9m0)

196 Netflix?
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (Orx/W)

yeah

it's a good show, sprt of Breakung Bad

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (G546f)

197 Makita Rivas aka @makitarivas --

I used your info so that when you are feverishly searching the web for any mentions of your name, you just might stumble across this comment:

We used to have a commenter here with the nic

Stuck On Stupid

You win.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (XF4b8)

198 Who needs lard. Don't y'all keep bacon grease?

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 07, 2020 12:22 PM (S2+8Y)

199 187 182 The Apollo program was initiated to establish slavery on the Moon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 07, 2020 12:11 PM (aKsyK)

I thought it was established to search for alien bases.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 12:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

We were going to fight Nazis on the Moon!

Our Nazis were better than their Nazis!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 12:22 PM (Dc2NZ)

200 Mara Gay is another AOC.

Mara is a 2008 graduate of the University of Michigan and grew up in Westchester County and in Brooklyn

Bets on how much time she "grew up" in Brooklyn, versus how much time she "grew up" in Westchester County? (Her mom is white.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2020 12:23 PM (I2/tG)

201 Ahh crap I mispelled her name. Fuckity.

But not with her. It's a good thing I didn't go with the makita drill joke.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 07, 2020 12:23 PM (XF4b8)

202 So off to the camps.
The logic in there is pure and simple. And it might work.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

BUT, this time we will do the camps RIGHT, da!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 07, 2020 12:24 PM (BiNEL)

203 >>>Our Previous Posts triggered by the NYT's August Meeting

A meeting that happened in the month of august? Or a meeting that was venerable?

Posted by: m at March 07, 2020 12:24 PM (oGFm1)

204 97 I would love to see Nikki on the ticket. In leather. And lace. And maybe stompy boots.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (gd9RK)

And in this corner Nikki (not Pocahontas) Haley, 5' 8" and weighting in at 135lbs. And her skilled opponent Tulsi (the surfer) Gabbard, 5' 7" and weighting in at 136lbs.

These evenly matched ladies will engage in a three fall pin down match. There will be no time outs and no referee.

May the best woman win.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 12:25 PM (nSJzs)

205 Slavery only took us so far. Yeah, we had great cotton crops, but I think everything that made America exceptional grew out of polio and the measles. I mean look at the timelines- slavery wasn't even there for the transcontinental railroads, the automobile, airplane, WWII, etc. Bring back polio!

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 12:25 PM (elfAG)

206 >>>Our Previous Posts triggered by the NYT's August Meeting

I see that "august" = the month:

>>>We have been doing periodic updates since the New York Times announced last August

but still momentarily ambiguous, so there it is.

Posted by: m at March 07, 2020 12:25 PM (oGFm1)

207 Who needs lard. Don't y'all keep bacon grease?

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 07, 2020 12:22 PM

I keep lard as a part of my prep storage so I can use it to add fat to freeze dried and dehydrated foods and wild game during the Burning Times. The bacon grease is for everyday home use.

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:26 PM (OMsf+)

208 That's a million slaves for each American.
Posted by: Brain Williams, Anchorman, MSCIA
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Right out of the gate, we have a Thread Winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at March 07, 2020 12:26 PM (xSo9G)

209 97 I would love to see Nikki on the ticket.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 11:52 AM (gd9RK)

"Nikki on the ticket!"

That'd work!

Posted by: m at March 07, 2020 12:26 PM (oGFm1)

210 Our Mexican landscaper, a legal immigrant without a high school education, drove his son cross country to enter MIT on a MacArthur Fellows Scholarship. We're friends, and he told me the story of the trip (he'd never been out of Los Angeles). He said, in summation, that the idea that this country is racist is crazy.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 07, 2020 12:27 PM (H8QX8)

211 One thing I wish we would all do --- and yeah, I know old habits die hard --- is stop using the word "liberal."

If you use it in the sense of "classical liberal," you will not be understood. If you use it in the sense of "leftist," you lie.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (M/9m0)

Yeah, it was effective for a while there, because it meant pie in the sky, wishful thinking.

These days I consider myself a liberal. Or a conservative liberal, which in my mind, makes perfect sense.

I really don't even like "leftist," because that word too is an anachronism, and it doesn't really get at what we're talking about here, in that these people are corrupt, evil, totalitarian communists.

Which is what Bernie is. Even though he's pulling some really weak sleight of hand nonsense, about Norway and Denmark and all that. The kids are buying it though.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:27 PM (hku12)

212 Slavery only took us so far. Yeah, we had great cotton crops, but I think everything that made America exceptional grew out of polio and the measles. I mean look at the timelines- slavery wasn't even there for the transcontinental railroads, the automobile, airplane, WWII, etc. Bring back polio!
Posted by: t-bird
--------

There you go again, only thinking about cause and effect.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (xSo9G)

213 Yay. Thank goodness everyone has to eat bland, tasteless foods so we reduce deaths by... carry the one...

0.008%

-

I just realized I did the math wrong. I divided by 300k when I should have used 100k.

0.02%

I'd love to know how many billions of dollars it cost to achieve that two one hundredths of one percent reduction.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (41rs/)

214 195 One thing I wish we would all do --- and yeah, I know old habits die hard --- is stop using the word "liberal."

If you use it in the sense of "classical liberal," you will not be understood. If you use it in the sense of "leftist," you lie.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 12:21 PM (M/9m0)

Communist is my preferred term.
Well, actually, I refer to them as commies.
Sometimes, pinkos.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (nSJzs)

215 We should definitely have these people produce our
pharmaceuticals. They probably brew them up in a trash can, stirring
with a broom handle.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 12:18 PM (YqDXo)

India has a flourishing pharma industry that has proven to be amenable to regulation and approachable about concerns for quality.

I would trust Indian pharma more than anything made by the PRC.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (6rS3m)

216 All of this NY Times crap is election year ploys, like talk of reparations every election cycle.

Posted by: jsg at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (JIkuv)

217 The focus on slavery as the driving force behind the establishment and expansion of the American colonies does a severe disservice to our nations founders. It completely neglects the booming industry in smallpox blanket manufacturing that gave employment to millions and created the New World's first class of billionaire tyvpcoons.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2020 12:29 PM (oqrJk)

218 I will say that the Chicoms have a great freeway system. Around Shanghai, smooth as glass and separate road way for trucks from automobile traffic.

Sure beats 580 in the Bay Area.

Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (377Zs)

219 #198 My mom kept bacon-drippings too but you don't use that for e.g. cookies. My Northern-Italian background dad (but born here) was disgusted seeing my mom's brothers eating bacon-drippings sandwiches. I guess dad's family had access to olive oil even during the 'teens and '20s!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (TQ/zJ)

220 Bring back polio!
Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 12:25 PM (elfAG)

And parlor spiritualists!

Nothing says "American exceptionalism" like a rapping sound coming from the walls, when calling forth one's dead uncle.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (hku12)

221 176---......So it isn't necessary to point out that Marx was a filthy, anti-Semitic pig who treated everyone around him like his personal slaves. It only needs to be shown that his ideas were bunk, written 20 years after the problem he is addressing was already solved by capitalists who benefited from improved working conditions for their employees.

He was just flat out wrong. Period........

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)
----------------------------------
Basically agree --- although I do find the X-was-a-pig a good TRANSITIONAL argument.

That is, if a lefty is dismissing Jefferson's ideas because Jefferson was (supposedly) a pig, I can bring up their beloved pigs to illustrate the foolishness of applying the genetic fallacy to the ideas themselves.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (M/9m0)

222 The media is simply a Narrative industry, with factories to create them, assembly lines to produce them, and facilities and personnel to distribute them.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 07, 2020 12:31 PM (H8QX8)

223 I saw a couple of articles aboutcolon cancer rates increasing in young (below age 40) people

apparently the experts have no idea why

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:31 PM (G546f)

224 You would think making hospital grade drugs would be a 1st world thing to do.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:31 PM (QZCjk)

225 223 lack of lard.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:32 PM (QZCjk)

226 I saw a couple of articles about colon cancer rates increasing in young (below age 40) people

apparently the experts have no idea why

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:31 PM

I'm going with "too much buttsecks".

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:33 PM (OMsf+)

227 Sure beats 580 in the Bay Area.
Posted by: JC. Idaho bot.

The 580 is a greased toboggan run compared to the 405 in LA.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2020 12:33 PM (wUw5H)

228 I'm going with "too much buttsecks".
Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:33 PM (OMsf+)

---------

Can I just do it until I have hemorrhoids?

Posted by: Mayor Pete at March 07, 2020 12:34 PM (oqrJk)

229 223 lack of lard.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:32 PM (QZCjk)

I was thinking that too. Less animal fat in the diet. Another nutritional paradox.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 07, 2020 12:34 PM (H8QX8)

230 I'm going with "too much buttsecks".
When memes collide: Not using butter for buttsecks. [collude??]

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:34 PM (TQ/zJ)

231 Basically agree --- although I do find the X-was-a-pig a good TRANSITIONAL argument.

That is, if a lefty is dismissing Jefferson's ideas because
Jefferson was (supposedly) a pig, I can bring up their beloved pigs to
illustrate the foolishness of applying the genetic fallacy to the ideas
themselves.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (M/9m0)

Howabout, Marx misrepresented Ricardian theory, which itself was superseded by Marginal theory within his lifetime.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:34 PM (6rS3m)

232 mekita rivas' "correction": blahblahblah: he could give everybody a million

Bloomburg's 60 billion into 327 million Americans= $183.48

somebody check my math

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 07, 2020 12:34 PM (Ndje9)

233 Sure beats 580 in the Bay Area.

Remember the five years of endless Stimulus road projects over that way? Did you notice any difference afterwards? Me, neither.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (n/eZB)

234 I saw a couple of articles about colon cancer rates increasing in young (below age 40) people

--

Not joking:

They aren't being caught because they can't afford to go to the doctor.

Yay Obamacare is reducing colon cancer!

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (krYGQ)

235 There are 37 million blacks in America. Mike Bloomberg could have given them each $1 mil from his campaign boondoggle ended the need for reparations.

Posted by: Makita Rivas at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (OZEdS)

236 >>>I would trust Indian pharma more than anything made by the PRC.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (6rS3m)

I purchased pharma from India, once, it was a pill that I cut in half and every one crumbled. I try to buy manufactured in Canada, England or Germany.
The German stuff is usually just a little cheaper than American. Number one proffered cheap medicine is Canada.

Now I have med insurance which, in the long run, is cheaper than Canada.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (nSJzs)

237 >>>Been thinking about Tennessee this week, and tornadoes.

Here's Dolly sending prayers:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/tmkw7b5

Posted by: m at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (oGFm1)

238 Remember the five years of endless Stimulus road projects over that way? Did you notice any difference afterwards? Me, neither.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (n/eZB)

--

Every single employee at the dental office I visit had a broken windshield from pea gravel flying up while driving daily through a "stimulus" road construction zone. I eventually did, too, after driving that same stretch of road.

We joked that the stimulus was increased economic spending in automotive repairs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:36 PM (krYGQ)

239

End of journalism?

Journalism died in the media long ago.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 07, 2020 12:37 PM (KATBx)

240 176---......So it isn't necessary to point out that Marx was a filthy, anti-Semitic pig who treated everyone around him like his personal slaves. It only needs to be shown that his ideas were bunk, written 20 years after the problem he is addressing was already solved by capitalists who benefited from improved working conditions for their employees.

He was just flat out wrong. Period........

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)
----------------------------------
Basically agree --- although I do find the X-was-a-pig a good TRANSITIONAL argument.

That is, if a lefty is dismissing Jefferson's ideas because Jefferson was (supposedly) a pig, I can bring up their beloved pigs to illustrate the foolishness of applying the genetic fallacy to the ideas themselves.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (M/9m0)

You open the doors for lies though.

Jefferson cheated at cards. Washington beat his wife. Adams was a closet homo.

They can make anything up, anything that might give rise to the argument that, yeah, no, your guys are worse than Marx.

And with the ever-changing world of intersectionality, you never know what past sin will now push your guy to the head of the list of rogues.

My opinion, it's best not to play the game, because they set the rules, and they cheat.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:37 PM (hku12)

241 All of this NY Times crap is election year ploys, like talk of reparations every election cycle.

Posted by: jsg at March 07, 2020 12:28 PM (JIkuv)

Yeah on the fringes...now it is mainstream in the democratic party

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2020 12:37 PM (nRk/c)

242 We joked that the stimulus was increased economic spending in automotive repairs.
Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:36 PM (krYGQ)

See? Bastiat may have been wrong!

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:38 PM (6rS3m)

243 I spend too much time thinking about economic theory. Sorry.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:38 PM (6rS3m)

244 See? Bastiat may have been wrong!

--

And it only cost a trillion dollars annually to make those same taxpayers spend $176M in car repairs!

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:38 PM (krYGQ)

245 Journalism doesn't just smell funny; it's dead, Jim.

Mainstream, anyway.

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 12:39 PM (RuIsu)

246 I want to bring back insane asylums. Also leper colonies for Socialists and Commies.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (RkalO)

Flying lessons.

Posted by: zombie Augusto Pinochet at March 07, 2020 12:40 PM (miJU3)

247 Someone pointed this out on social media and I thought it significant

Just about every single election year, a big scary virus story comes up.

2008 Avian Flu
2010 Swine Flu
2012 MERS
2014 Ebola
2016 Zika
2020 Wuhan Flu

Kinda like clockwork. This time they seem to have managed to terrify people enough that its affecting people's perspective on the nation and medical care.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:40 PM (KZzsI)

248 They aren't being caught because they can't afford to go to the doctor.

==

the whole colonoscopy industry is a bit of a bondoogle, imo

if you are over 50 you get a free screening
a "screening" means you have no symptoms prior to the colonoscopy
if you have symptoms that indicate a possible problem, that's a diagnostic procedure, not a screening, and you pay

if you have a screening and they find something, it's now either diagnostic or diagnostic and corrective, and you pay

effing insurance

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:41 PM (G546f)

249 andycanuck is right, who wants their Spotted Dick to taste like bacon?

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:42 PM (ZCEU2)

250 A metric ton is only slightly more weight than a "English" ton.

But "metric"... so lawl nerd cred you guys....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 07, 2020 12:43 PM (srx45)

251 When is Ozarks Season 3 starting?

Great series.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 07, 2020 12:43 PM (z0XD8)

252 if you have a screening and they find something, it's now either diagnostic or diagnostic and corrective, and you pay

If they don't find anything, they just reamed you out with a camera for nothing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:43 PM (KZzsI)

253 legalinsurrection.com/only bernie and biden no tulsi at next dem debate under dncs new qualification rules

No one is better at Calvinball than the DNC

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:44 PM (ZCEU2)

254 I purchased pharma from India, once, it was a pill
that I cut in half and every one crumbled. I try to buy manufactured in
Canada, England or Germany.

The German stuff is usually just a little cheaper than American. Number one proffered cheap medicine is Canada.

Now I have med insurance which, in the long run, is cheaper than Canada.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 12:35 PM (nSJzs)

That cheap Canadian pharma is produced overseas.

Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 12:44 PM (nRNOc)

255 the whole colonoscopy industry is a bit of a bondoogle, imo

if you are over 50 you get a free screening
a "screening" means you have no symptoms prior to the colonoscopy
if you have symptoms that indicate a possible problem, that's a diagnostic procedure, not a screening, and you pay

if you have a screening and they find something, it's now either diagnostic or diagnostic and corrective, and you pay

effing insurance
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:41 PM (G546f)

As a general rule, people who get regularly schedule colonoscopies don't die from colon cancer. People who don't get them, do.

Whatever else it is, it has a phenomenal record of doing what it's supposed to do.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:44 PM (hku12)

256
If they don't find anything, they just reamed you out with a camera for nothing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

they should be paying you!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:44 PM (G546f)

257 want to bring back insane asylums. Also leper colonies for Socialists and Commies.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at March 07, 2020 11:49 AM (RkalO)

Flying lessons.
Posted by: zombie Augusto Pinochet at March 07, 2020 12:40 PM (miJU3)

"We're so good, you'll never pay for lessons again!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 07, 2020 12:44 PM (srx45)

258 vmom - wouldn't know, never did it.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:45 PM (ZCEU2)

259 Lard helps me get in and out of my pants.

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (EgshT)

260 A metric ton is only slightly more weight than a "English" ton.

And a metric ton is just barely lighter than an English long ton- but the French needed to feel they invented something new.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (jOEDM)

261 #249 Good one, Skip! (And true too.)

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (TQ/zJ)

262 In the movie The Shootist Jimmy Stewart has to tell John Wayne he has ass cancer. This is not the last movie anyone would want to make - but it got made. Stuff that puzzles me.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (QZCjk)

263 >>You guys know finding lard these days is hard?
Posted by: Mel Gibson

I switched to butter.

Posted by: Marlon Brando at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (2cuLk)

264
Back in 2008 when the Sichuan earthquake hit, and public schools and
hospitals collapsed into powder, this shoddy workmanship was called
"tofu buildings".
=====

Laughing ruefully. Chicago now has the Chinese food box using up Lakefront public property. I do wonder (as if anyone has a doubt) how dingy and dirty it will look in 5 years.

There is an odd blue-green color that was used extensively in the 70s-80s for public buildings. Talk about 'dated' crap.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (MIKMs)

265 I hope the cologuard type tests (stool test for cancer dna) gets more effective

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (G546f)

266 and cheaper

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:47 PM (G546f)

267 >>No one is better at Calvinball than the DNC

I don't know. All their supposed scheming and brilliance has given their voters a choice between a corrupt old man with a broken brain and a communist.

They might be good at taking people down but they don't seem real good at producing a winner.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2020 12:48 PM (ZLI7S)

268 Around Shanghai, smooth as glass and separate road way for trucks from automobile traffic.

Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at March 07, 2020 12:30 PM (377Zs)

That's because its a toll road, and most people cant use it because no scooters allowed.

Posted by: drerbrererd at March 07, 2020 12:49 PM (2f1AB)

269 How Hillary manages anxiety, courtesy the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-says-epstein-assassination-was-to-manage-anxiety

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 12:49 PM (Uu+Jp)

270 That Cologuard test tasted terrible.

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 12:50 PM (RuIsu)

271 Little Mikey is a clown with a lot of money.

Time to go away and leave the rest of humanity alone.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 07, 2020 12:50 PM (Z+IKu)

272 actually, try warming the lard and it is not so hard, I find.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:50 PM (6rS3m)

273 I hope the cologuard type tests (stool test for cancer dna) gets more effective
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM (G546f)

How so? I have one at home, I am suppose to do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2020 12:51 PM (nRk/c)

274 All their supposed scheming and brilliance has given their voters a choice between a ~~corrupt old~~ man ~~with a broken brain and a communist.~~

FIFY

Posted by: Twitter Review Board at March 07, 2020 12:51 PM (mhs6e)

275 That reminds me, check the Cologuard company stock.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 12:52 PM (krYGQ)

276 I see Clarence Page is a member of the 1776 Project. Good on him. He's a lefty columnist, and I rarely agree with him, but this one time at band camp...

KT, disturbing news that the 1619 agitprop is being taught in all 50 states. Sigh.

We have a loooong battle ahead of us.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 07, 2020 12:52 PM (XF4b8)

277 Aww, it looks like Aaron Judge is heading for the DL, and possibly season ending (or at least severely limiting) surgery.

Why, it's almost as if conditions that allow athletes to build bigger and bigger muscles are not necessarily good for bones and cartilage and other more delicate and breakable parts of the meat frame.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 12:52 PM (hku12)

278 The DNC doesn't just engage in Calvinball, they just utterly ignore the law when they desire to. Wasn't it in New Jersey that they just stuck someone new on the ballot when a candidate died, long past the legal deadline? Because F you, Democrat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:52 PM (KZzsI)

279 I wish I was better able to track obj. oriented code so I could fix his 'bugs' instead of trying to get him to do it.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 07, 2020 12:20 PM (cDw3P)

The whole point of bundling data and methods into objects is to make it easier to track. But really, "object oriented" is just a frame of mind. If its throwing you off, just pretend they're global functions with the object name as part of the function name.

Posted by: drerbrererd at March 07, 2020 12:53 PM (2f1AB)

280 Babylon Bee is savage. It makes the Onion look like the Harvard Lampoon on ludes.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2020 12:53 PM (6rS3m)

281 Calvinball is just about changing the rules as you go along

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:53 PM (ZCEU2)

282 My news feed has some NYT article on the grief and rage felt by some Fauxahontus devotee.

So she's pissed at democrats?

Am I supposed to take these people seriously? And is this a plea for her to be Biden's Vp so she can take over when he goes to Happy Acres Dementia Facility?

Posted by: dagny at March 07, 2020 12:53 PM (CHGje)

283 Christopher yes they did

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:54 PM (ZCEU2)

284 How so? I have one at home, I am suppose to do?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

it claims to be 92% accurate
has a 13% false positive rate

could be better, is all

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:54 PM (G546f)

285 Why, it's almost as if conditions that allow athletes to build bigger and bigger muscles are not necessarily good for bones and cartilage and other more delicate and breakable parts of the meat frame.

Curt Schilling touched on this briefly when talking about his pre-season conditioning program to be ready for the new season.

He believes (and so do I) that players are over-training and stressing their body to the point that it becomes easily breakable resulting in the ridiculous host of injuries over the season now. Players are getting gigantic and swole when they just need to be strong, flexible, and durable.

But everyone is being trained to swing up as hard as possible and try to get it over the fence, so they all want to be shredded and huge.

Which overstresses their body, joints, ligaments etc in the process and without being able to rely on steroids to heal faster, they break easily.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

286 This is not the last movie anyone would want to make - but it got made. Stuff that puzzles me.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:46 PM

IIRC, part of John Wayne's motivation to make the movie because he had already dealt with a serious cancer scare.

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 12:55 PM (OMsf+)

287 No rules in a knife fight.

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 12:55 PM (RuIsu)

288 Since so many countries had slavery, shouldn't they all be great???

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 07, 2020 12:57 PM (lonOK)

289 it claims to be 92% accurate
has a 13% false positive rate

could be better, is all
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 12:54 PM (G546f)

OK thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2020 12:58 PM (nRk/c)

290 IIRC, part of John Wayne's motivation to make the movie because he had already dealt with a serious cancer scare.

Lung Cancer, but as I recall he was actually dying of Lung Cancer when he made the Shootist. Which ended up one of his best movies, great note to go out on.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)

291 So everything that is supposed to be great came out of the poorer 1/2 of the country and only was based on a limited agriculture.
Have to remember that.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 12:59 PM (ZCEU2)

292 286 Wayne knew he was terminal when he made the movie.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 12:59 PM (QZCjk)

293 Since so many countries had slavery, shouldn't they all be great???

I'm not sure it is possible to find a nation on earth that did not have slavery at least some point in their history -- even if it was before the nation was officially named or founded. Kinda like the USA.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:59 PM (KZzsI)

294 The DNC doesn't just engage in Calvinball, they just
utterly ignore the law when they desire to. Wasn't it in New Jersey
that they just stuck someone new on the ballot when a candidate died,
long past the legal deadline? Because F you, Democrat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:52 PM (KZzsI)

NJ Dems did it, with OK from the NJ courts, when then-retired Frank Lautenberg replaced Bob Torricelli because of Bob's "ethics" issues.

MN was a bit different when Paul Wellstone died; it was close enough to the election that if you voted for him you knew you were voting for Mondale.

Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 01:01 PM (nRNOc)

295 Antarctica is the only country with no slavery, ever. Per Wikipedia. Look it up.

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 01:01 PM (RuIsu)

296
You all rag on Joe Biden, but I have to say that he's provided a wonderful home for me.

Posted by: Dementia at March 07, 2020 01:03 PM (z0XD8)

297 Which overstresses their body, joints, ligaments etc in the process and without being able to rely on steroids to heal faster, they break easily.

I think it's the other way around. Steroids don't help the ligaments and tendons and bone recover and adapt at the rate that the muscles and soft tissue does. IIRC, it takes six weeks for everything else to catch up to a week of steroid-assisted GAINZZ.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 01:03 PM (8ruUE)

298 Africa has always had slavery

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 07, 2020 01:04 PM (G546f)

299 Addendum: The Wellstone/Mondale thing also happened in Missouri in 2000; John Ashcroft's opponent died shortly before the election, after the ballots were printed. If you voted for him, you were voting for his wife. Thus, Senator Jean Carnahan.

Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 01:04 PM (nRNOc)

300 Pants are on! Personal Saturday best!

I see the Babylon Bee has an interview with MST3K's Mike Nelson on being a Christian. I'll have to take a listen.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 01:04 PM (Dc2NZ)

301 Antarctica is the only country with no slavery, ever. Per Wikipedia. Look it up.

I'm sure PETA would beg to differ.

Posted by: t-bird at March 07, 2020 01:04 PM (8ruUE)

302 >>>That cheap Canadian pharma is produced overseas.

Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 12:44 PM (nRNOc)

Canada Drugs would tell you where they were manufactured and it would be printed on the box.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 01:04 PM (nSJzs)

303 Tucker had a guest on recently who was former CIA who had written a book. I wish I could remember the title of the book but he said he'd uncovered evidence that China decided the best way to bring down America was to pit us against each other with race. Makes sense, as things (racially) have gotten worse since Obama.

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 07, 2020 01:05 PM (lonOK)

304 Tucker had a guest on recently who was former CIA who had written a book. I wish I could remember the title of the book but he said he'd uncovered evidence that China decided the best way to bring down America was to pit us against each other with race. Makes sense, as things (racially) have gotten worse since Obama.
Posted by: Chillin the most at March 07, 2020 01:05 PM (lonOK)

Shit the russians have been doing that for 75 years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2020 01:06 PM (nRk/c)

305 But you are correct, drugs manufactured in UK, Turkey (yeah, not me), India, even Germany are cheaper.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 01:06 PM (nSJzs)

306 295 Antarctica is the only country with no slavery, ever. Per Wikipedia. Look it up.
Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 01:01 PM (RuIsu)
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Except for forced labor used to build the Nazi stronghold in Neuschwabenland.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 01:06 PM (Dc2NZ)

307 Why, it's almost as if conditions that allow athletes to build bigger and bigger muscles are not necessarily good for bones and cartilage and other more delicate and breakable parts of the meat frame.
------------------------------------
Curt Schilling touched on this briefly when talking about his pre-season conditioning program to be ready for the new season.

He believes (and so do I) that players are over-training and stressing their body to the point that it becomes easily breakable resulting in the ridiculous host of injuries over the season now. Players are getting gigantic and swole when they just need to be strong, flexible, and durable.

But everyone is being trained to swing up as hard as possible and try to get it over the fence, so they all want to be shredded and huge.

Which overstresses their body, joints, ligaments etc in the process and without being able to rely on steroids to heal faster, they break easily.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

I'm not going to speculate to much about steroid use, but I do think it's still being allowed, to some extent, in MLB.

I think guys like David Ortiz were grandfathered in, and everyone looked the other way while he took his victory lap in his last season.

So... steroids are in the mix somewhere, and yeah, the human body is kinda meant to be balanced, not have layers and layers of muscle piled on top of it.

People don't realize this, because there were journalists in the last half of the 20th century who glorified it, but baseball in the post-war period almost died. It got boring. Everyone swinging for the fences, and teams like the Yankees and Dodgers every season being poised to play in the World Series, while teams like the Indians and Browns and Senators and Pirates and Phillies and on and on, never being much more than Washington Generals to their Harlem Globetrotters.

We're pretty much there again, and MLB is gnashing its teeth over young folk not giving a damn about the game. So they're devising ways to whizbang and sexy up the damned thing.

Good luck, MLB. I'm basically out.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 01:06 PM (hku12)

308 Steroids don't help the ligaments and tendons and bone recover and adapt at the rate that the muscles and soft tissue does.

Steroids primarily help your body heal more quickly from injury, so that helps make people like an aging Barry Bonds stay in the field despite the tremendous stress he put on himself day after day and in weight training.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

309 Is there any eye surgeries going on baseball to enable batters to get 20/05 vision?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 01:07 PM (QZCjk)

310 MLB players need to be more flexible, not bulked up like body builders. It is obvious why they are all getting hurt. Look at the ones who are not, like Trout. He basically has a normal body

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2020 01:08 PM (nRk/c)

311 Criminal gangs in Chile are taking advantage of NY's new bail reform laws.

They are sending gangs of thieves into NY to burglarize homes in affluent neighborhoods. They tell the crooks not to worry about getting caught, because they'll get out of jail in a few hours (non-violent criminals are not held, and no bail required), and then they just catch a plane and fly back to Chile.

In one NY county alone, home burglaries are up 75% since the new bail reforms law went into effect. Cops there say the increase is all due to the Chilean criminal gangs.

Incentives . . . how do they work?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/rhhtpya

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 07, 2020 01:08 PM (k4dH2)

312 Penguins in bondage?!

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 01:09 PM (RuIsu)

313 Good luck, MLB. I'm basically out.

I'm nearly there, although my fingernails are dug in. Much more idiotic rule changes and the whole "let the kids play f--- tradition and 150 years of history old man" crap and I will give up on it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:09 PM (KZzsI)

314 Our Nazis were better than their Nazis!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 07, 2020 12:22 PM (Dc2NZ)

Lol. That's literally true.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 01:09 PM (gd9RK)

315 Tucker had a guest on recently who was former CIA who had written a book. I wish I could remember the title of the book but he said he'd uncovered evidence that China decided the best way to bring down America was to pit us against each other with race. Makes sense, as things (racially) have gotten worse since Obama.
Posted by: Chillin the most at March 07, 2020 01:05 PM (lonOK)

Pfft. Stalin decided in 1945 decided that the best way to bring us down was to encourage Balkanization of the various ethnicities. He sent over two Italian professors from the Comintern meeting to give the word to the CPUSA, which until then had been promoting the melting pot and how true blue American they were.

http://genus.cogia.net/chap13.php

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 01:10 PM (YqDXo)

316 >>Shit the russians have been doing that for 75 years

Pretty standard communist tactic. The Soviets did this throughout Africa and other regions.

The ANC in South Africa is a prime example.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2020 01:10 PM (ZLI7S)

317 MLB: Crap, people notice when the players are juiced. Time to juice the baseballs!

Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 01:11 PM (nRNOc)

318 And in this corner Nikki (not Pocahontas) Haley, 5' 8" and weighting in at 135lbs. And her skilled opponent Tulsi (the surfer) Gabbard, 5' 7" and weighting in at 136lbs.

These evenly matched ladies will engage in a three fall pin down match. There will be no time outs and no referee.

May the best woman win.

Posted by: Howard Cosell's dream time at March 07, 2020 12:25 PM (nSJzs)

Dear Howard Cosell, can you please come back to life and make this happen?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 01:11 PM (gd9RK)

319 Islam has had slavery from its inception, many places still to this day.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 01:12 PM (ZCEU2)

320 Addendum: The Wellstone/Mondale thing also happened in Missouri in 2000; John Ashcroft's opponent died shortly before the election, after the ballots were printed. If you voted for him, you were voting for his wife. Thus, Senator Jean Carnahan.
Posted by: Vendette at March 07, 2020 01:04 PM (nRNOc)

Not "Senator Jean Carnahan." The AoSHQ Style Guide dictates one must refer to her as The Widow Carnahan. Period. Full stop.

Ashcroft was a douche about the whole thing. Suspending his campaign, thus giving breathing room to the grieving widow to catch and pass him.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 01:12 PM (hku12)

321 MLB players need to be more flexible, not bulked up like body builders. It is obvious why they are all getting hurt. Look at the ones who are not, like Trout. He basically has a normal body
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2020 01:08 PM (nRk/c)

You pretty much have to be a freak to play Pro Football or basketball these days, but with Pro -

baseball, soccer, lacrosse, tennis, hockey-

you can do well with a normal human body.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 07, 2020 01:13 PM (z0XD8)

322 Good luck, MLB. I'm basically out.

I enjoy college baseball much more. There are scholarship limits of 11.7 schollies that can be divided among the allowed roster of 27 players. Also, 90% of those guys won't even make it to the minors, and they know it. They really do play for "love of the game".

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:13 PM (OMsf+)

323 Take the cork out of the baseball and watch the game be what is originally was. Also raise the hoop to fifteen feet and make it a skill game.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 01:15 PM (QZCjk)

324 I like College Baseball but I cannot get past that aluminum bat and DH.

*dink*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:15 PM (KZzsI)

325 I enjoy college baseball much more. There are scholarship limits of 11.7 schollies that can be divided among the allowed roster of 27 players. Also, 90% of those guys won't even make it to the minors, and they know it. They really do play for "love of the game".
Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:13 PM (OMsf+)

Even getting to MLB is no guarantee. I play with several guys who played in MLB. For less than a month.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 01:15 PM (YqDXo)

326 6 more home runs a year might get you 15 or 20 million extra bucks...

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 01:15 PM (RuIsu)

327 I have a question. This morning on Fox they were talking about the Latin vote. It sounded in odd because I never hear about politicians worrying about the Ukrainian vote or the polish vote, etc. is it just because the other immigrants assimilated? I grew up in a very ethnic area of Detroit, but it was not homogeneous.

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 07, 2020 01:16 PM (lonOK)

328 Apropos of nothing, I just informed the Mrs. that it's St. Paddy's Day, not St. Patty's.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 01:16 PM (Dhht7)

329 Antarctica is the only country with no slavery, ever. Per Wikipedia. Look it up.
Posted by: klaftern

Oh, yeah?

What's their capitol?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2020 01:17 PM (wUw5H)

330 Steroids primarily help your body heal more quickly from injury, so that helps make people like an aging Barry Bonds stay in the field despite the tremendous stress he put on himself day after day and in weight training.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

Lest anyone think I'm some sort of homer (not homo, you philistines!), 2011 Cardinals, both Chris Carpenter and Albert Pujols were injured during the season (maybe Carpenter's injury was in the off-season, I don't remember which). Both made miraculous recoveries.

They made a phenomenal run toward the playoffs, after sucking for much of the season, then steamed over everyone, with guys like David Freese and Allen Craig coming from basically nowhere, and turning into superstars. For a few months.

I'm not saying it was steroids.

But.....

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 01:18 PM (hku12)

331 Apropos of nothing, I just informed the Mrs. that it's St. Paddy's Day, not St. Patty's.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 01:16 PM (Dhht7)

And a Paddy Melt is when an Irishman falls in a vat of acid.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 07, 2020 01:18 PM (z0XD8)

332 I like College Baseball but I cannot get past that aluminum bat and DH.

*dink*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:15
-------------------
This is true.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 01:18 PM (Dhht7)

333 I'm pretty much indifferent to what professional athletes put into their bodies. I think the rules as they exist accomplish little but develop better and better ways of cheating.
Let them do what they want under professional.
Besides all that the sports themselves put huge stress on the human body let them do what they need to do to heal.
If a chemical helped in recovery from head injuries, why not allow it?
Just my two cents worth.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

334
True Pundit* is reporting there is credible evidence in the wake of CPAC that pence might get bumped over to Sec Def and Nikki Haley would take his place on the ticket.
*I don't know anything about the source, they seem legit.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

========

True Pundit. Meh.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 07, 2020 01:19 PM (G51Gf)

335 327 As Diplomad 2.0 who I link often has said if you want to find foreign interference with elections look no further than the Mexican government and millions of Mexican illegals.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 01:19 PM (ZCEU2)

336 The capital of Antarctica is McMurdo Sound, founded by a Scotsman in a kilt.

Posted by: klaftern at March 07, 2020 01:20 PM (RuIsu)

337 Steroids doesn't bother me much either, if used exclusively for recovering from injury, but just using it so you can get jacked faster is bad. Guys who did that die young.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)

338 Garden Nood is up

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at March 07, 2020 01:21 PM (ZCEU2)

339 Take the cork out of the baseball and watch the game be what is originally was. Also raise the hoop to fifteen feet and make it a skill game.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 07, 2020 01:15 PM (QZCjk)

Hoop??? There are no hoops in baseball... *spit*

Posted by: Hank Toms at March 07, 2020 01:21 PM (hku12)

340 I like College Baseball but I cannot get past that aluminum bat and DH.

*dink*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 07, 2020 01:15 PM

Yeah, I wish they were using wood, but I can live with Bbcor at that level. Same with the DH.

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:21 PM (OMsf+)

341 Slavery had virtually nothing to do with the success of America, in fact, it can rightly be said, that it nearly destroyed and ended the American experiment.

Slavery was brought upon this continent by the British, Dutch and Spanish, and it lasted only 80 years after the creation of the United States.

And it was ended, not at the hands of blacks, rising up like Maximus to free themselves, but by the immense moral struggle of whites who gave blood that the black man would be free, of their Democrat slave holders.

Fuck that noise, I have absolutely no moral obligation to labor under the stain of slavery as I and my kind had no hand in instituting it and maintaining it, but as a Republican had the moral courage and dedication to ending it and advancing the cause of freeing the black man.

You want to blame someone?

Blame Britain, go get a pound of flesh and a pound sterling from them, they have more to do with your historical suffering than I do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 07, 2020 01:23 PM (FVrDO)

342 I'm pretty much indifferent to what professional athletes put into their bodies. I think the rules as they exist accomplish little but develop better and better ways of cheating.
Let them do what they want under professional.
Besides all that the sports themselves put huge stress on the human body let them do what they need to do to heal.
If a chemical helped in recovery from head injuries, why not allow it?
Just my two cents worth.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

Steroids in the game creates a mutually assured destruction type escalation though. If you aren't using, the other guy is. Do you want to be THAT guy?

Ask Mason Rudolph how he feels about it.

Posted by: Hank Toms at March 07, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)

343 Dammit, go away Hank.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 07, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)

344 Haley? Zzzzzzzz ...... What's the elevator pitch for her to be in any public office? What specific critical policies has she championed or implemented? Talking trash (appropriately) to idiots at the UNSC is nice but anybody can do it. Is it just a slightly (slightly) less stupid version of the idiotic ID politix that has consumed the small minds of the Dems and their hordes that even makes her a thing? Seems like it. Sub-meh.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 01:26 PM (El6T/)

345 Shouldn't the candidates who just dropped out pledge their delegates to Major Gabbard so she can represent real vaginas at the dem debate since the wimmins are all hysterical?

Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 01:27 PM (0x00j)

346 Nood

Posted by: Kazi at March 07, 2020 01:28 PM (0x00j)

347
Slavery only took us so far.

Posted by: t-bird

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In fact, not even that. I've read somewhere -- probably here -- about the economic advantage of slavery. None.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 07, 2020 01:30 PM (G51Gf)

348 It was explained as I read it pulling out totally gives up monetarily rights, just suspending it keeps the pocketbooks open.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2020 01:30 PM (ZCEU2)

349 What specific critical policies has she championed
or implemented?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 01:26 PM

She signed CCW reciprocity with Georgia. So she has that going for her. Which is nice for us Georgians on the border with SC.

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:30 PM (OMsf+)

350 344 Haley? Zzzzzzzz ...... What's the elevator pitch for her to be in any public office? ......
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 01:26 PM (El6T/)
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She's purty!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 01:33 PM (M/9m0)

351 Hey! There's my college baseball friend!

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:33 PM (OMsf+)

352 Very cool thing Gibson is doing. It makes me want to get another to help support them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 07, 2020 01:33 PM (9Om/r)

353 I am beginning to think we need to change the quote.

"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."

It should read:

"Those who do learn history are doomed to be liquidated."

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 07, 2020 01:36 PM (e1mEI)

354 Blame Britain, go get a pound of flesh and a pound sterling from them, they have more to do with your historical suffering than I do.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 07, 2020 01:23 PM (FVrDO)

Also Africa. African coastal chieftains made a boatload of money from slavery. And initially, used it as a means of getting rid of their troublemakers. Only later did they resort to raffias, raids on other tribes, to get slaves to sell to the Europeans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 01:37 PM (YqDXo)

355 The Nicholas Brothers are a.m.a.z.i.n.g.

What phenomenal talent.

It seemed like MLK Jr.'s dream was beginning to happen. And then came SCOAMT.

Posted by: Gem at March 07, 2020 01:37 PM (65i3Q)

356 349----Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:30 PM (OMsf+)
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Hey, Bert G!
How are your Bulldogs doing this year?

My (unranked) Wahoos are playing #8 NC State at this very minute. So far....ok.....so far.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 01:37 PM (M/9m0)

357 350 344 Haley? Zzzzzzzz ...... What's the elevator pitch for her to be in any public office? ......
Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 01:26 PM (El6T/)
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She's purty!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 01:33 PM
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Yes, she is that. What exactly was the hubbub over the Confederate statues and flag at the Capitol? Did she cave on that?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 01:39 PM (Dhht7)

358 Shout out to Left Coast Dawg. 10 emails to Wash State Legislators this morning. Thanks for the heads up. My usual source for this type of information failed on this legislative sleight of hand.
If a bunch of shoeless, hungry freezing dudes can cross the Potomac on Christmas Eve, I can send 10 or more emails sitting on my ass drinking coffee. Thanks.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at March 07, 2020 01:40 PM (vLXme)

359 Nothing in particular against Haley. As with anybody generating "buzz", first reaction is always "why? I mean boring, important reasons why, not theatrics/b.s./personality/skin color/gender/blah blah blah.

By comparison see DeSantis in FL. Just talking about boring but important policy stuff - all that really matters. It *appears* he's a serious responsible guy, doing important things, or trying to.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 01:40 PM (El6T/)

360 >>By comparison see DeSantis in FL. Just talking about boring but important policy stuff - all that really matters. It *appears* he's a serious responsible guy, doing important things, or trying to.

DeSantis is one of my sleepers for 2024.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)

361 Yes, she is that. What exactly was the hubbub over the Confederate statues and flag at the Capitol? Did she cave on that?
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Like Pence. Very good within their own wheelhouse (GOPe), but without the overall vision and spinal fortitude to accomplish their own stated executive goals. They will always cave to publicity.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 01:45 PM (MIKMs)

362 My Cuban relatives in Florida, who are fairly varied in their political views, all seem to like De Santis. Even my touchy-feely cousin, who often votes D, likes him okay.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 01:50 PM (M/9m0)

363 How are your Bulldogs doing this year?

My (unranked) Wahoos are playing #8 NC State at this very minute. So far....ok.....so far.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 01:37 PM

They're doing OK, but we've lost two key players already, one big hitter and one of our starting pitchers. Frankly though, the pitcher (JT Ginn) apparently has a glass elbow. Game two against Quinnipiac is in about an hour. We do have another ace pitcher that's just killing it so far. He was out last year with mono, but his stats so far:
21 innings pitched
4-0
ERA 0.86
H - 9
R - 2
BB - 6
K - 35
Batters faced - 71
Opponent BA - .127

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:52 PM (OMsf+)

364 Before this thread finally gasps its last, I want to recommend some PBS POV movie about intelligent and talented black boys growing up in a competitive NY environment. The kids go their own ways, but the most poignant episode was the kids who had a heritage trip to Africa. A 'king' living in a hut with his 'wives' apologized to the American kids for selling their ancestors. The silence when the kids got back to their hotel was profound.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 01:52 PM (MIKMs)

365 I think Soros said "I'm going to bring America down using black hate groups."
The NYT is a big black hate group, the media is another huge black hate group, and the democrat party is the biggest black hate group.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 07, 2020 01:52 PM (pw+jk)

366 Like Pence. Very good within their own wheelhouse (GOPe), but without the overall vision and spinal fortitude to accomplish their own stated executive goals. They will always cave to publicity.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 01:45
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That's what I thought.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 01:54 PM (Dhht7)

367 Yes, she is that. What exactly was the hubbub over the Confederate statues and flag at the Capitol? Did she cave on that?

She moved the flag from the capitol to somewhere 100 yards away that wasn't the capitol. And then we all died of corona virus.

Also she's hawt.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 01:55 PM (gd9RK)

368 363----.We do have another ace pitcher that's just killing it so far.
21 innings pitched
4-0
ERA 0.86
H - 9
R - 2
BB - 6
K - 35
Batters faced - 71
Opponent BA - .127

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 01:52 PM (OMsf+)
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Whoa.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 02:00 PM (M/9m0)

369
If Africans made America exceptional, then why haven't done that in Africa, where they've lived since Adam first felt up Eve?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 07, 2020 11:38 AM (YqDXo)

Al Sharpton: Them Greek homos stole all of our exceptional!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 07, 2020 02:00 PM (iiQCS)

370 Iranian gov is really droppong dead right & left. Must be allah's will.

Posted by: MHK at March 07, 2020 02:02 PM (iQIUe)

371 A homemade peanut butter cookie for you and you and you.

Who says you can't have cookies without an oven. I'm getting this microwave stuff down.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2020 02:03 PM (kszLT)

372 DeSantis' approval #s are very very high, across "lines", in a diverse (actual meaning) state, while he's taking on big issues. That's a pretty impressive thing. Funny, two of his biggest priorities (like a certain other political figure of our time) were things he led with in his campaign, and is actually pursuing in office. Illegal mass migration, and law and order.

It's almost - almost - like this bizarre, counter-intuitive strategery of 1) running on sensible policies on important problems, and 2) actually acting on your stated approach when in office, appeals to lots of voters. Probably just a fluke of some kind.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 02:03 PM (El6T/)

373 And then we all died of corona virus.

Also she's hawt.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 07, 2020 01:55 PM

Too late. I shuffled off this mortal coil after Net Neutrality was killed.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 02:05 PM (Dhht7)

374
It's almost - almost - like this bizarre, counter-intuitive
strategery of 1) running on sensible policies on important problems, and
2) actually acting on your stated approach when in office, appeals to
lots of voters. Probably just a fluke of some kind.
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The acid test, as always, is defining 'important problems'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 02:08 PM (MIKMs)

375 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2020 02:00 PM

This was him on the bump yesterday: https://tinyurl.com/v2x9qj7

Posted by: Bert G at March 07, 2020 02:09 PM (OMsf+)

376 You guys know finding lard these days is hard?

See The Women of Wal-Mart.......

Posted by: JT at March 07, 2020 02:13 PM (arJlL)

377 Posted by: JT at March 07, 2020 02:13 PM (arJlL)

I was just in Walmart this morning. No higher number of fat people than in the local Shop-Rite. However, you probably can find lard in the Hispanic foods section as people from Latino countries often use it in their cooking.

P.S. I saved about $25.00 from what I would have spent at Shop Rite.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2020 02:18 PM (WI7YS)

378 Posted by: MHK at March 07, 2020 02:02 PM (iQIUe)

I think that it's possible that some people are being killed by various factions in the government and it's being blamed on coronavirus.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2020 02:21 PM (WI7YS)

379 Who says you can't have cookies without an oven. I'm getting this microwave stuff down.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2020 02:03 PM
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Cookies in the microwave? Did your oven go kaput?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 02:23 PM (Dhht7)

380 I think it's telling that the left wants us to think slavery was a net wealth creator. They need us to think that way given the kind of aristocratic government they prefer.

Everywhere that there has been relatively free societies next to a slave society, the slave society has been distinctly poor and backward compared to their relatively free neighbors.

From Sparta--it's where we got the word spartan to mean lacking comfort--through the American south and even into the present, slavery has impeded progress and wasted wealth.

Even after the civil war, the one industry in the south that improved the fastest was the one that had previously been most dependent on slave labor: cotton.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 07, 2020 02:34 PM (2lndx)

381 Why did Ace stop telling us about the cost of presidential golf trips

Posted by: Kurt at March 07, 2020 02:40 PM (+55Gx)

382 Even after the civil war, the one industry in the south that improved the fastest was the one that had previously been most dependent on slave labor: cotton.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 07, 2020 02:34 PM (2lndx)

This is a good point- and one we do not hit on enough in the debate I think as an overall idea: when people are allowed to work for themselves and their own betterment (money, property), it oddly works out better for everyone- not just them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 07, 2020 02:42 PM (XyVor)

383 P.S. I saved about $25.00 from what I would have spent at Shop Rite.
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Fen -- That $25 is more than spent by the gas/time and, most of all, 'stuff' that we all add to our carts.

The most frugal method (for me) is once a month to the 'stuff mart' and weekly to regular local grocery.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 02:42 PM (MIKMs)

384 Hi Kurt.
Your still a dip but after the trolls we've had around lately you seem kind of sweet in your futility.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 02:46 PM (Uu+Jp)

385 olddog, I don't have an oven. I've got cakes and brownies mastered and so I thought, why not cookies?

Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2020 02:47 PM (kszLT)

386 When I look at my ancestors I'm pretty sure you'd have to go back to the Germanic tribes to find slaveholders. And there's just as much chance that I'd have a slave ancestor as a slaveholding ancestor.
Solid lineup of peasants and small merchants. I don't know but they have had cooks or maids.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 02:50 PM (Uu+Jp)

387 I did have a grandfather who sold the family cow for a pack of cigarettes. So there's that.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 07, 2020 02:56 PM (Uu+Jp)

388 when people are allowed to work for themselves and their own betterment (money, property), it oddly works out better for everyone- not just them.

For all their descent into identity politics and social justice, the Democratic Party doesn't seem to have changed much since Lincoln's time. They still think slavery is a positive force.

You may turn over everything in the Democratic policy from beginning to end, whether in the shape it takes on the statute-book, in the shape it takes in the Dred Scott decision, in the shape it takes in conversation, or the shape it takes in short maxim-like arguments--it everywhere carefully excludes the idea that there is anything wrong in it.--stuff Abraham Lincoln Really Did Say, Debates Volume

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 07, 2020 02:58 PM (2lndx)

389 Redundant, but the level of ignorance and lack of analytical capacity it takes to "think" that slavery is a system that creates wealth compared to free economies, or that *anything* positive or distinctive about the US relates in any way to slavery, is kind of breath-taking.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2020 02:59 PM (El6T/)

390 I don't have an oven.

I would never have guessed you don't have an oven.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 07, 2020 03:00 PM (2lndx)

391 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at March 07, 2020 03:02 PM (ZCEU2)

392 I wonder what a pecan butter cookie would taste like?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 07, 2020 03:03 PM (DMUuz)

393 olddog, I don't have an oven. I've got cakes and brownies mastered and so I thought, why not cookies?

Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2020 02:47 PM
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Didn't you just cook ribs? Did you do those in microwave or outside?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 07, 2020 03:03 PM (Dhht7)

394 Aetius, I envy both your nick and your hash.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 07, 2020 03:04 PM (2lndx)

395 Stephen Price Blair, How are you?! Something about that whole living in a barn thing.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 07, 2020 03:04 PM (kszLT)

396 There are a few of us who are without ovens. Mine is because there is some odd 'digital' control that I obviously can not operate without supervision. No oven for me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 07, 2020 03:04 PM (MIKMs)

397 Stephen Price Blair, How are you?!

Still regularly lurking. During the week by the time I get to threads I'm interested in they've already been nooded, so I don't post a lot anymore.

Something about that whole living in a barn thing.

Everyone to their own. If I had to choose between a microwave or a quality countertop oven, it'd be no contest. But I can't live without baked goods.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 07, 2020 03:15 PM (2lndx)

398 Northern Italy just got put on lockdown until at least April 3rd. Nobody can leave except for emergencies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/
1236375796475977728

BREAKING: Italy plans to put the northern region on a virtual lockdown until April 3, according to local media

Posted by: ok at March 07, 2020 03:50 PM (vSZjJ)

399 "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating
that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of
slavery."

Well, since the Democratic Party grew out of slavery, Ms. Gay is just keeping the faith. Keep digging, kiddo, you'll find that pony someday!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at March 07, 2020 03:59 PM (YqED9)

400 How does a hotel just fall down?

In China?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 07, 2020 04:16 PM (oVJmc)

401 the cost of presidential golf trips

--

My first thought was similar to why the "dead in Iraq" numbers stopped being reported, but then I realized I probably wouldn't have any problem with Obama golfing if he had simultaneously been moving jobs back to the US and otherwise creating an environment where taxpayers were earning an extra gajillion dollars every year.

Being a lazy bastard AND a f*ck up while wasting money avoiding work was apparently the problem.

Posted by: Moron Robbie was bitten by a radioactive ampersand at March 07, 2020 04:22 PM (krYGQ)

402 I love watching dance routines.

However, I wince when I see the Nicholas Brothers do those jump-and-rises. Surely they pulled several muscles during their career.

Wonder what happened to them.

(probably should have saved this for the Movie Thread)

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 07, 2020 05:25 PM (u/nim)

403 With the reason outbreak of the Corona virus, and the hording of TP the NYT may be of use yet.

Posted by: Buffalobob at March 08, 2020 12:45 AM (RNoZj)

404 Deap thots: Coronavirus could be nature's way of cooling the Earth...if only it were waaay more deadlier than the flew.

Posted by: Nowut Ameen at March 08, 2020 09:49 AM (p87/x)

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