The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

One of the mixed blessings of the information age is the instant and world-wide transmission of pretty much everything, from the raw data to wild extrapolations and interpretations and politically motivated screeds that may or may not be based on reality. Even worse is the lack of perspective, since hysterical tweets and headlines sell ads and newspapers, while sober reflection and interpretation is wiser and more boring.

And coronavirus is a great example of this. Is it the pandemic that will bring down the world economy, or is it just another flu-like syndrome that kills the old and the weak, just like the flu does...every single year. Last year the flu killed 20,000 people in the USA alone. And the year before was worse. World wide? WHO estimates that seasonal influenza may result in 290 000-650 000 deaths each year due to respiratory diseases alone.

So what is the official government response to this widespread yearly virus that kills hundreds of thousands of people each year? Pretty rational actually! The American government subsidizes vaccine research, tries to make the public aware of the basic precautions that will minimize exposure, and places it properly in the category of "manageable."

But hysteria usually wins out, and here is a great example of such.

Michela Musolino is a professional singer and a long-time reader and commenter at AoSHQ who was in northern Italy recently for a series of concerts, unfortunately right smack in the middle of Italy's coronavirus outbreak.

Her experience is fascinating, and her observations are equally valuable and worth a read.

Greetings From Coronavirus Central!

By Sunday afternoon, we found that we couldn't go anywhere because not only were all Northern regions cancelling all public activity, Southern regions in Italy were already barring entry to anyone from the Lombardia region. We felt like the "unclean" from the times of the Plague. Masses had been cancelled as well. This happened only days before Ash Wednesday, the start of Christendom's holiest season. All of our live performances had been cancelled, whether they were in the Lombardia or not, even if they were in a different region, more than three hours from any outbreak. Musician friends of ours were reporting that some of their shows on Saturday, the night before had been cancelled, even if in areas untouched by the virus. By Sunday night, everybody was sitting around telling stories to keep entertained and saying that we were reliving Boccaccio's Decameron, except by then that joke was already wearing thin.

Read the whole thing!

Here's what I think: Coronavirus is probably self-limiting, just like the flu. And when a vaccine is developed it will be relegated it to the back pages of newspapers as filler on a slow day. As Michela points out, there is very little information about the people who are actually dying of this. Are they old and sick? Are they smokers (the Chinese smoke like chimneys!), do they have other preexisting conditions that make the virus more dangerous? How many people who get it have mild symptoms and then recover quickly without coming to the attention of the statistics gatherers?

I am deeply suspicious of any analysis that does not recognize the realities of the differences in medical care and overall health between a country like China and a country like The United States. We deliver health care much quicker and much more effectively than China, our citizens are much healthier, and our culture limits exposure to these things in many ways. Why, it's almost as if there are qualitative differences in cultures and countries!

Posted by: CBD at 10:53 AM

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 27, 2020 10:55 AM (zZbCU)

2 and so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at February 27, 2020 10:55 AM (ODbpK)

3 Three points that are really important.

1. The numbers from China are still suspect for China-based reasons.
2. The outbreak in South Korea was due to one collection of nutcases. They seem to have a clear picture on vectors.
3. Ditto the outbreak in Italy.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 10:56 AM (Boy/L)

4 Thank you CBD. I needed this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (QzF6i)

5 Who makes the cigarettes that the Chinese smoke?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (aKsyK)

6 Three points that are really important.

1. The numbers from China are still suspect for China-based reasons.
2. The outbreak in South Korea was due to one collection of nutcases. They seem to have a clear picture on vectors.
3. Ditto the outbreak in Italy.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 10:56 AM (Boy/L)

The SK nutcases have spread the virus to a couple other countries, IIRC.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 10:58 AM (EFiUo)

7 Well said
Er, typed

Posted by: Bring back the Bird Flu at February 27, 2020 10:58 AM (YTBIQ)

8 What will happen is what always happens; the Government will spend billions of dollars, with zero accountability, to marginal effect. There really isn't anything the Government can do to stop you from getting the flu if you don't protect yourself.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at February 27, 2020 10:58 AM (BeYX8)

9 CBD getting all rational and shit, spoiling our fun.

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 10:58 AM (l3+k2)

10 I'm only worried about my 92 year old father in the nursing home. But as his age, any virus can be deadly.

Posted by: Archer at February 27, 2020 10:58 AM (gmo/4)

11 Who makes the cigarettes that the Chinese smoke?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (aKsyK)

Comrade Zhou's Excellent Tobacco Processing And Lithium Refinery LLC

Posted by: Vanya at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (U7voe)

12 OT
I just typed 'difference lig' into the search bar and 'What's the difference between light and dark brown sugar' popped up.
Which is exactly what I was looking for.

That's creepy.
Mind reading browser.
*shudder*

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (d6mdH)

13 Can deep staters in the CDC be trusted to act in the best interests of the American people?

-
Who's on first?

WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response...v

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (+y/Ru)

14 'allo, My name is Coronavirus Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (oVJmc)

15 Who makes the cigarettes that the Chinese smoke?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (aKsyK)

China, probably.

The cigs are probably filled with sawdust or something else cheap and unhealthy.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (EFiUo)

16 Why, it's almost as if there are qualitative differences in cultures and countries!

Unpossible! We are all the same.

Except for me, I'm much better.

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (vd8XM)

17 It doesn't matter much if it's smokers or not in China, given that everyone there breathes their air.

Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (SUJyY)

18 There is an effort underway to portray the virus as "bad" so two things will happen:

1. Markets tank
2. Democrats can blame Trump for number 1

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (kxgFI)

19 Can deep staters in the CDC be trusted to act in the best interests of the American people?

--

How many guns do you have in your house?

Posted by: CDC at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (U7voe)

20 And when a vaccine is developed it will be relegated it to the back pages of newspapers as filler on a slow day.

A drug maker called Moderna submitted their vaccine to the U.S. government for testing on Tuesday. They said it is ready for testing on humans. The earliest results could be ready is July.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (kw5n8)

21 OT from Coronavirus, but just as troubling:
The banning of half the mods at the_donald, and punishing people for upvoting positive Trump things, is terrifying for three things:

Suppression of free speech,
China getting its claws in US free speech,
And ESPECIALLY using internet to interfere with elections.

When they started creating a new site months ago, the Donald.win, I thought they were being a bit over dramatic. Now I know they were 100% right to be worried Reddit would suppress their freedom of speech and mess with the election.

https://youtu.be/rTh5R5KAPJA

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (UvJJq)

22 >>that does not recognize the realities of the differences in medical care and overall health

This. When COVID-19 makes it to sub-Saharan Africa, it's on, y'all.

Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (ZS9TG)

23 I just typed 'difference lig' into the search bar and 'What's the difference between light and dark brown sugar' popped up.
Which is exactly what I was looking for."

So was the answer "the difference between half-blood and full-blood"?

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (Kpl3J)

24 damnit, i'm on time and the monkey is early...

now to see what I've missed.

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (8D42x)

25 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

Note, there is NEVER a policy slate that we should be doing. I never heard this clown criticize Xi for stunts like the Cloroxing of buildings.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (Boy/L)

26 Laurent X is Zod's ghetto moniker.

Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (ZS9TG)

27 Crud, and I just bought a gross of lighters to sell to people wishing to set their hair on fire.

Darn CBD being all rational and stuff!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (RIAR/)

28 Dammit! I'll never get to use all this prepper shit!

Posted by: BignJames at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (X/Pw5)

29 A brief note on the enzyme noted as the entry point into human cells for COVID-19 (and SARS before it):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Angiotensin-converting_enzyme_2

Yes, that's right...ACE2.

If I wrote the history of the 21st century as a Herman Wouk-style epic, it would get laughed off the bookshelves for being ludicrously contrived.

Posted by: Brother ~~Cavil~~ Tim at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (OUMaO)

30 What the Dems Really Need is some big shot celebrity to get infected and die.

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (l3+k2)

31 When COVID-19 makes it to sub-Saharan Africa, it's on, y'all.

It's not going to do well in the heat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (Boy/L)

32 Of course I was NOODED:

I'm scraping as much cash as I can to buy into the market again when the time seems right. I look at it in a few ways:

1. The underlying strength of the market here in US is strong...if the Dems and the MSM want to panic the country via the stock market with a virus I don't think is anything worse than previous ones, so be it what a wonderful opportunity to buy.

2. I'm completely wrong and the virus is a global killer...what good is paper money or plenty of cash on hand going to do for me anyways?

3. I've invested in lead over the last 10 years and if it goes that far that will be the only investment that will have a solid ROI.

Hell why not? We'll see.

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (n/0Nw)

33 You have to admire how good the Dems have gotten at being able to blame Trump for absolutely everything.

If Trump takes the logical actions to curb the coronavirus coming here in cracking down on immigration and closing the borders, they get to yell at him for racism and being uncaring about those less fortunate.

If he doesn't, they get to blame him for not doing enough to stop the spread.

Heads I win, tails you lose.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (KUaJL)

34 reposted from last thread:

553
Is that worldwide or China?

The stats out of South Korea show
(I don't remember exactly but it's something like 13 deaths for 1600 cases.)

Of course, some more of those 1600 could have croaked by now. That

figure is for "contracted" and not for"contracted and recovered."

Eh. Who knows yet?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille

Sorry, I was busy looking up
similar numbers to yours for my @517. Mostly for China, but there are
others, like Iran, where the number is closer to 10%.

You are
correct that there is much we don't know, but to state that this is no
more serious than a typical flu is simply to ignore the facts as they
now stand. We can hope it won't be as bad as we expect, but we have to
prepare for it to be.

The really interesting thing (in a
literally morbid sense) will be when it hits both Koreas (probably
already has). I'll bet the rate in NK will be catastrophic, and could
well destabilize the regime.

Posted by: pep

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (T6t7i)

35 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

I wonder where _they_ get their funding from???

Posted by: db at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (jLxx3)

36 A brief note on the enzyme noted as the entry point into human cells for COVID-19 (and SARS before it):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Angiotensin-converting_enzyme_2

Yes, that's right...ACE2.

If I wrote the history of the 21st century as a Herman Wouk-style epic, it would get laughed off the bookshelves for being ludicrously contrived.
Posted by: Brother Cavil Tim at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (OUMaO)

Ace should post as "Ace2" when making posts about the Virus.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (EFiUo)

37 FORD !!

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (rpxSz)

38
*Munkey*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (eXA4G)

39 15 Who makes the cigarettes that the Chinese smoke?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (aKsyK)
China, probably.
The cigs are probably filled with sawdust or something else cheap and unhealthy.
Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (EFiUo)

Wise Man say, May the dung of a thousand camels fill the shelves of your smokeshops forever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (Kpl3J)

40 From the last thread:

Here's a little math. South Korea, very much a 1st world country now, has about 1300 reported cases of CV, and has reported 13 deaths from it. That's a mortality rate of 1%. Again, the rate for a typical flu is about 0.1 %.

To continue the thought, that means it might be expected to kill 10x as many people in the US as the flu on a typical year.

According to the CDC, that's 12,000 - 61,000 deaths due to flu per year since 2010.

120,000 - 610,000 deaths in the US due to this virus is a sobering thought.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (i0wNm)

41 Again I have to refer to John Ringo's "The Last Centurion"

One of the plot points is the outbreak of a new airborne flu (ORIGINATING IN CHINA! AND THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT SCREWED THE POOCH!)

But he uses the difference in the SARS outbreak.

Overseas, people died. In the US they didn't.

The difference was the quality and wide spread health care in the US.

GREAT book, btw,

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (T09ml)

42 If I wrote the history of the 21st century as a Herman Wouk-style epic, it would get laughed off the bookshelves for being ludicrously contrived.
Posted by: Brother Cavil Tim at February 27, 2020 11:01 AM (OUMaO)
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Yeah, because there are no criminal masterminds only criminal dunces.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (RIAR/)

43 Have fun guys, bbl.

I have to convert a bunch of job plans that were sent to me in metric units to standard because I was supposed to magically guess that the guy who sent them wanted them submitted in standard.

Posted by: Vanya at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (U7voe)

44 Oh, a fun meme I like:

The_Donald did not kill itself.

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (UvJJq)

45

BTW Moderna submitted their vaccine on Tuesday the same day the assclowns at the CDC held their panic fest.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (kw5n8)

46 What the hell am I going to do with all this Spam?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (1ISKN)

47 15 Who makes the cigarettes that the Chinese smoke?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (aKsyK)

China, probably.

The cigs are probably filled with sawdust or something else cheap and unhealthy.
Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 10:59 AM (EFiUo)

Melamine.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (NWiLs)

48 Michela Musolino is a professional singer�and a long-time commenter

...

Hot momma!

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (EsGqq)

49 35 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

deaf, dumb, blind kid

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (rpxSz)

50 I have to convert a bunch of job plans that were sent to me in metric units to standard because I was supposed to magically guess that the guy who sent them wanted them submitted in standard.
Posted by: Vanya

Make them in standard furlongs

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (vd8XM)

51 Do not listen to the monkey! Hysteria is your friend! These are the end times for all unless you buy your survival supplies through my Amazon Portal!

Posted by: Instapanic at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (hLRSq)

52 This was Willowed, but still applies...

What I don't understand is why people would consider a pandemic like this to be a negative on the economy.

Let's say this thing is as bad as the media wants you to believe. It runs wild through the country and 1 million people die. What is the net effect?

The million that die would be the oldest, weakest, least wealthy people in the country. Others would be people who had existing conditions that lowered their natural immunity.

Maybe the healthcare sector would take a hit, now that they had a million less people to milk in their last weeks of life, but overall, the country would experience substantially less Medicare/Medicaid spending, real estate would be sold and bought, money would be inherited and the world would continue to turn.

Nature has a way of culling the herd from time to time. It's not all bad.

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (U6f/q)

53 46 What the hell am I going to do with all this Spam?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (1ISKN)

delete

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (rpxSz)

54 Illness forces the Pope to cancel an event in Rome a day after showing solidarity with coronavirus sufferers and shaking hands with congregation at weekly audience

https://tinyurl.com/vvupbsz

anti-pope situation may resolve itself...

Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (lWCRE)

55 23 I just typed 'difference lig' into the search bar and 'What's the difference between light and dark brown sugar' popped up.
Which is exactly what I was looking for."

So was the answer "the difference between half-blood and full-blood"?

===
ISWYDT

*heh*

No.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (d6mdH)

56 37> Yup.

And American Airlines was looking sporty at about $25

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (kxgFI)

57 49 35 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

deaf, dumb, blind kid
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (rpxSz)

but he sure plays a mean pinball.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

58 35 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

I wonder where _they_ get their funding from???

More to the point: who IS that WHO official?

Ezekiel Emanuel.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (8erNz)

59 Make them in standard furlongs
Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (vd8XM)
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Cubits.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (RIAR/)

60 I've been doing everything wrong. I picked someone up at the airport 3 weeks ago from a flight from Seoul. She was about the only person on the plane without a mask on. The base she came from is now completely on lockdown. She hasn't been sick so far. Tomorrow I get on 2 airplanes to fly to FL to pick up Madre and drive her home - then get on more planes to come back here.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (sjdRT)

61 >>I have to convert a bunch of job plans that were
sent to me in metric units to standard because I was supposed to
magically guess that the guy who sent them wanted them submitted in
standard. Posted by: Vanya at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (U7voe)

If you convert only one-third of them, you'll create something...
something beautiful. And terrible.

Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (ZS9TG)

62 The million that die would be the oldest...

Nature has a way of culling the herd from time to time. It's not all bad.

Posted by: jwest

This site is probably not the place to make that point.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:06 AM (T6t7i)

63 Tomorrow I get on 2 airplanes to fly to FL to pick up Madre and drive her home - then get on more planes to come back here.
Posted by: Muad'dib

Burn the witch!

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:06 AM (vd8XM)

64 59 Make them in standard furlongs
Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (vd8XM)
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Cubits.

Angstroms.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:06 AM (8erNz)

65 Tip Top

Posted by: FrodoB,
because PHDNKH at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (veJcn)

66 According to the CDC, that's 12,000 - 61,000 deaths due to flu per year since 2010.

120,000 - 610,000 deaths in the US due to this virus is a sobering thought.

-
Small potatoes compared to 150,000,000 dead from gunfire.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

67 Burn the witch!
Posted by: Bruce

Oops. Not your Madre though

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (vd8XM)

68 I'll bet the rate in NK will be catastrophic, and could
well destabilize the regime.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (T6t7i)

They've sealed off their border, started executing suspected carriers and spraying all their major roads with antivirals. I think Kim knows what will happen should the Coronavirus enter his country.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (EFiUo)

69 If you convert only one-third of them, you'll create something...
something beautiful. And terrible.

Stonehenge?

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (8erNz)

70 57 49 35 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

deaf, dumb, blind kid
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (rpxSz)

but he sure plays a mean pinball.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

touch me, feel me

Posted by: BUTTBOI at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (rpxSz)

71 SK has 1700 cases 13 deaths.

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (EsGqq)

72 If you convert only one-third of them, you'll create something...
something beautiful. And terrible.
Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (ZS9TG)
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Yeah, it will probably resemble that modern art building in Las Vegas.

The one that looks like the body shop was on drugs the day they worked on it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (RIAR/)

73 >Oops. Not your Madre though

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (vd8XM)

How about her cat? Can I burn her cat? Just a little......

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (sjdRT)

74 Note, there is NEVER a policy slate that we should be doing. I never heard this clown criticize Xi for stunts like the Cloroxing of buildings

====
That's cuz as an employee of WHO he's paid by China.
Of course the US contributes more money to WHO just like all the ratshit UN bit that's not the same thing because reasons.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (d6mdH)

75 Stonehenge?
Posted by: JEM

With a bathroom

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (vd8XM)

76
There is an effort underway to portray the virus as "bad" so two things will happen:

1. Markets tank
2. Democrats can blame Trump for number 1
Posted by: Martini Farmer

But don't they say that only the rich are in the stock market? They don't like the rich, right?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (aKsyK)

77 >> I
think Kim knows what will happen should the Coronavirus enter his
country. Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (EFiUo)

Chinkmate.

Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (ZS9TG)

78 One interesting thing is, supposedly unlike the flu, this isn't affecting and being spread by children -- who tend to be a major vector by carrying it to schools.

I'll assume for now that this will be like 9,999 out of every 10,000 hysterias perpetrated by the media: #FakeHysteria.

Posted by: ShainS at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (WqPYg)

79 Can you imagine if/when COVd19 gets loose in Africa ?

hygiene and healthcare systems worse than China

Curious how it has not yet....

Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (lWCRE)

80 Nature has a way of culling the herd from time to time. It's not all bad.
Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (U6f/q)

What made the 1918 flu so wicked was that it attacked the healthiest immune systems - which meant that the prime victims were working, healthy adults in their 20's and 30's. The old, the young, and the sick perversely had much higher survival rates than the healthy did.

That truly was the nastiest pandemic the world has seen since the black death.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)

81 75 Stonehenge?
Posted by: JEM

With a bathroom

But only a foot tall.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (8erNz)

82 3. I've invested in lead over the last 10 years and
if it goes that far that will be the only investment that will have a
solid ROI.

Hell why not? We'll see.

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM

---

I have over 10,000 rounds of .22lr that I invested in during the great ammunition shortages of 2008-2013. Stored in .50 cal ammo cans in the closet.

It works extremely well as "currency" when SHTF.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (JUOKG)

83 Cubits, four bits, six bits, a dollar!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM (+y/Ru)

84 Buy stock in Lysol and Chlorox.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (1ISKN)

85 > Cubits.

If it's good enough for God, it's good enough for me.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (i0wNm)

86 Does anyone know if having been exposed to net neutrality and tax cuts mitigates the effects of Covid19?

Posted by: Central Scrutinzer at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (vI+F1)

87 That truly was the nastiest pandemic the world has seen since the black death.

Posted by: Tom Servo

I think you're forgetting net neutrality.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (T6t7i)

88 Make them in standard furlongs
Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM

++++

Maybe furlongs per fortnight.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (T09ml)

89 Iran's Vice President has been diagnosed with the Coronavirus. The way things are going there, it seems the Islamic Republic could very well end not with a bang, but with a sniffle.

https://tinyurl.com/vbjsb55

Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (EFiUo)

90 Norks report 0 cases.

Lol sure jan.

They had a very open and active border with China.

It's closed now but no way are they at 0.

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (EsGqq)

91 87 That truly was the nastiest pandemic the world has seen since the black death.

Posted by: Tom Servo

I think you're forgetting net neutrality.
Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (T6t7i)

==========

I lost several family members.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (zZbCU)

92 *SK has 1700 cases 13 deaths.*

South Korea also has an Apocalyptic Death Cult (Shincheonji ) who are either 1. deliberately spreading the disease or 2. being scapegoated for spreading the disease, depending on which conspiracy you believe.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (BeYX8)

93 56
37> Yup.

And American Airlines was looking sporty at about $25

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (kxgFI)
Took a look at Ford. Analyst ratings (for what they are worth) weren't that rosy, but the stock price has me thinking. Their dividend yield definitely peaks my interest as I mostly play in DRIP stocks.

Also looking at Cisco. Its down near its 52 week low. Being in IT, I know their products well and their Meraki product line is nothing short of amazing. Plus nice dividend.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (N39Ws)

94
The really interesting thing (in a
literally morbid sense) will be when it hits both Koreas (probably
already has). I'll bet the rate in NK will be catastrophic, and could
well destabilize the regime.

Posted by: pep
Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (T6t7i)

I doubt any of your scenarios.

Posted by: Sooner at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (Fs5vw)

95 I think you're forgetting net neutrality.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (T6t7i)

Pffft....y2k was the end of the world.

Posted by: BignJames at February 27, 2020 11:11 AM (X/Pw5)

96 Can you imagine if/when COVd19 gets loose in Africa ?

hygiene and healthcare systems worse than China

Curious how it has not yet....

Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:08 AM

---

Me too because China has literally thousands of people traveling back and forth from China to Africa trying to buy up every single thing of value.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:11 AM (JUOKG)

97 70
57 49 35 WHO official slams Trump's 'ignorant and incoherent' response.

deaf, dumb, blind kid

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (rpxSz)

but he sure plays a mean pinball.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

touch me, feel me

Posted by: BUTTBOI at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (rpxSz)

________

It's an eminence front, it's an eminence front, it's a put on ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 27, 2020 11:11 AM (WqPYg)

98 Gonna stay the course with the 401k and stock market. If this fizzles then there will be a big recovery (its easily a +30k market). If it turns out to be a pandemic then we will have a lot more to worry about than retirement. and everyone will be in the same boat.

Posted by: High Low Yo! at February 27, 2020 11:11 AM (nzKWW)

99 Why, it's almost as if there are qualitative differences in cultures and countries!
_______________

Not true, raaaaaacist h8ter! Everybody knows that all cultures are equal, except that America's culture is the worst because it is raaaaaaacist and heteronormative and patriarchal!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 27, 2020 11:11 AM (k4dH2)

100 Say what you want about NK, but they've done great things with literacy.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (1ISKN)

101 Nooded comments:

1) Since WW II, the average time for the market to get back to its pre-correction level has been 8 months.

2) That KY state legislative seat which Trump/RNC bragged about flipping last Tuesday was a real time warp, Twilight Zone place. All white, all rural & solid Democratic bastion. Trump finally carried it in 2016, & ir was bound to flip sooner or later, but I fear it has no predictive value.

3) RAS has Trump's JA at 52% today, the third day in a row over 50%. If Sanders is nominated, the GOP needs to plan on how to prevent a "lonely landslide," like Nixon's in '72. GOP MUST start focusing NOW on defeating most ofl those freshmen DEM House members elected in 2018, & thereby flipping the House..

Posted by: mnw at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (Cssks)

102 Also looking at Cisco. Its down near its 52 week low. Being in IT, I know their products well and their Meraki product line is nothing short of amazing. Plus nice dividend.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (N39Ws)
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Cisco switches are all fun and games until you install the stacking modules and discover the firmware is mismatched between the switches.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (RIAR/)

103 I doubt any of your scenarios.

Posted by: Sooner

Good to know.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (T6t7i)

104 Someone called into Breitbarts XM show last night with Sunny and the gal who regularly hosts at 9pm. The gentleman was calmly, but with a bit of snark, explaining his point of view that the media is driving the hysteria over coronavirus, as it isn't nearly as deadly as all the previous pandemic types of virus, of which he recited the entire list. And even those virus's had a mortality rate of 3-4%. He pointed out the reason that the Spanish Flu was so deadly was because the sanitary conditions in 1918 Europe were terrible and he rightly pointed out that sanitary conditions in China aren't great.

They went ballistic on him, demanding to know if he thought no one should be bothering to inform the US public about this pending crisis . He asked them if they had ever been to Wuhan China ( no , neither had, but they were sure it was a modern industrial city) and he tried to tell them he has and it is ten times worse than the worst part of Chinatown in NYC or SF as far as sanitary conditions.

They flipped out on him. Kept screaming about how this is tanking the economy because all the factories in China are shut down, etc.

This is supposed to be a factual, conservative leaning program.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (vfS9U)

105 I am just thrilled that this has become political. Because everything has to be political.

So Schumer wants $8 bn, why? $3 bn for the CDC, $1 bn each for USAID, and four other things that I forget.

Why? Does he have a specific course of action for CDC to carry out and has he costed it out at $3 bn? Did his staff stay up late with pizzas and cold coffee and examine the costs of masks and tongue depressers and hotel rooms for visiting doctors?

Or is it just a SWAG and another shot at grift?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (wzVKm)

106 I'm pushing 29, so fingers crossed!

Posted by: Regular joe at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (6/uwW)

107 88 It's now officially the worst stock market since the financial crash in 08.
Posted by: Yankeesinjuries at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (vq7F7)

so when it comes back

Trump saved out economy

right?

RIGHT?

Posted by: BUTTBOI at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (rpxSz)

108 I'm not worried about this virus at all. I've been dead for years. Happened right after the Net Neutrality Repeal and Trumps tax cuts. In fact, Trillions died from that. Who is left for this virus to kill?

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (vN4+Q)

109 Me too because China has literally thousands of people traveling back and forth from China to Africa trying to buy up every single thing of value.

Chinese end up everywhere.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (8erNz)

110 Does anyone know if having been exposed to net neutrality and tax cuts mitigates the effects of Covid19?

Posted by: Central Scrutinzer at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (vI+F1)

It toughens you up enough to take on withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords, the Iran Nuclear Deal, and the Iowa Caucuses.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (hLRSq)

111 I've been doing everything wrong. I picked someone up at the airport 3 weeks ago from a flight from Seoul. She was about the only person on the plane without a mask on. The base she came from is now completely on lockdown. She hasn't been sick so far. Tomorrow I get on 2 airplanes to fly to FL to pick up Madre and drive her home - then get on more planes to come back here.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:05 AM (sjdRT)
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Have Chani wrap you completely up like a mummy before you board the plane. Don't breathe while you're on the plane. It's the only way to be safe.

Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (/669Q)

112 Posted by: High Low Yo! at February 27, 2020 11:11 AM (nzKWW)

Very wise.

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (EsGqq)

113 Posted by: Yankeesinjuries at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (vq7F7)

Wrong. Keep slinging bullshit and I will ban you again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (dLLD6)

114 And American Airlines was looking sporty at about $25"

AA is an interesting call. The scare may impact travel, which would be negative, BUT AA's biggest cost is always Fuel, and those prices are dropping rapidly which means cash flow will surge.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (Kpl3J)

115 This will not be any more serious than any other flu because I don't live in a third word shithole without modern technology. I know how to wash my hands and not use the street or water supply as my toilet. I know not to eat raw monkeys or bats . I live out in the country, away from areas populated by libtards. You can run around with your hair on fire. By April this will be old news and the libs will be screeching about something else.

Posted by: Abby at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (SM/op)

116 Norks report 0 cases.

Lol sure jan.

They had a very open and active border with China.

It's closed now but no way are they at 0.
Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM

++++

Yeah, N. Korea would be NASTY.

An emaciated population, lots of prison camps, totally isolated.

Scary.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (T09ml)

117 $1 bn each for USAID

Oh, hell naw.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (Boy/L)

118

Why bother to consider this logically and carefully?

Much more fun to Chicken Little it and stir shit up.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (KATBx)

119 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

120 59 Make them in standard furlongs
Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (vd8XM)
-----------------

Cubits.

====
I'm a fan of the Furlong Firkin Fortnight units of measurement.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (d6mdH)

121 Nuke China. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

122 102
Also looking at Cisco. Its down near its 52 week low. Being in IT, I
know their products well and their Meraki product line is nothing short
of amazing. Plus nice dividend.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (N39Ws)

---------------

Cisco switches are all fun and games until you install the stacking
modules and discover the firmware is mismatched between the switches.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (RIAR/)
I have stacking modules and have done several firmware upgrades. I am by no means a Cisco guru, so there is always some pucker factor when I patch them. Key thing is to RTFM.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (N39Ws)

123 >Have Chani wrap you completely up like a mummy
before you board the plane. Don't breathe while you're on the plane.
It's the only way to be safe.

Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:13 AM (/669Q)

That is definitely one way to go. I was leaning more towards the liberal self administration of medicinal ethanol.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (sjdRT)

124 >> Who is left for this virus to kill?

esp after guns killed 150 MM americans
according to Joe Biden

Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (lWCRE)

125 Why bother to consider this logically and carefully?

Much more fun to Chicken Little it and stir shit up.

Posted by: irongrampa

Example?

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (T6t7i)

126 34----The really interesting thing (in a
literally morbid sense) will be when it hits both Koreas (probably already has). I'll bet the rate in NK will be catastrophic, and could well destabilize the regime.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:02 AM (T6t7i)
--------------------------
Yeah, the comparison, as you say, would be...... interesting.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (M/9m0)

127 Am I being insensitive and racist by calling this Chinese AIDS?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (1ISKN)

128 > Wrong. Keep slinging bullshit and I will ban you again.

Someone gave CBD the keys to the blog?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (i0wNm)

129 22 >>that does not recognize the realities of the differences in medical care and overall health

This. When COVID-19 makes it to sub-Saharan Africa, it's on, y'all.
Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:00 AM (ZS9TG)

China has a lot of outposts in Africa. Could get interesting

Posted by: josephistan at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (Izzlo)

130 107
88 It's now officially the worst stock market since the financial crash in 08.

Posted by: Yankeesinjuries at February 27, 2020 11:09 AM (vq7F7)

so when it comes back

Trump saved out economy

right?

RIGHT?

Posted by: BUTTBOI at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (rpxSz)

Obama created a rock solid foundation that even Trump can't shake!

Posted by: mfm at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (l3+k2)

131 when I'm looking for winners

I focus on the mudders

Posted by: BUTTBOI at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (rpxSz)

132 Who is left for this virus to kill?

esp after guns killed 150 MM americans
according to Joe Biden
Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (lWCRE)

Everyone that would otherwise be around in 2030, silly.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (Boy/L)

133 That is definitely one way to go. I was leaning more towards the liberal self administration of medicinal ethanol.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (sjdRT)
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Only if you can get it through IV.

Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (/669Q)

134 Cubits > Quatloos

Posted by: clutch cargo at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (8B6Ng)

135 Michela Musolino

Hubba Hubba!!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (u82oZ)

136 Chinese air quality is the shit. I mean shitty. As in air-most-foul.

Posted by: nip-registered Libertarian at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (Izot6)

137 3) RAS has Trump's JA at 52% today, the third day in a row over 50%. If Sanders is nominated, the GOP needs to plan on how to prevent a "lonely landslide," like Nixon's in '72. GOP MUST start focusing NOW on defeating most ofl those freshmen DEM House members elected in 2018, & thereby flipping the House..
Posted by: mnw at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (Cssks)

as we have said on this blog many times, the GOP's greatest weakness is candidate selection on the State level. They just have never been able to get a good recruiting pipeline set up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (Kpl3J)

138 *Say what you want about NK, but they've done great things with literacy.*

Pol Pot had a wonderful program for relieving the stress of overpopulation and getting urban dwellers out into the countryside.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (BeYX8)

139 71 SK has 1700 cases 13 deaths.
Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (EsGqq)

That's less of a percentage than the common flu.

Posted by: Sooner at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (Fs5vw)

140 This is supposed to be a factual, conservative leaning program.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:12 AM (vfS9U)

Awesome! Spread the panic! Buy supplies through my Amazon Portal!

Posted by: Instapanic at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (hLRSq)

141 India is a close second.

Posted by: nip at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (Izot6)

142 >> We deliver health care much quicker and much more effectively than
China, our citizens are much healthier, and our culture limits exposure
to these things in many ways. Why, it's almost as if there are
qualitative differences in cultures and countries!

We also are not OK with killing and/or letting our citizens die for expediency, a profit, to hide a pandemic, etc..

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (bDqIh)

143 124 >> Who is left for this virus to kill?

esp after guns killed 150 MM americans
according to Joe Biden
Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (lWCRE)

my ex

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (rpxSz)

144 This. When COVID-19 makes it to sub-Saharan Africa, it's on, y'all.

Since all of sub-Saharan Africa is moving north anyway, what do we know about the cases in Italy?

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (8erNz)

145 71 SK has 1700 cases 13 deaths.
Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (EsGqq)

It was 50 cases just a week ago. It takes between 14-24 to show symptoms. It takes a couple more weeks to die after that. Also each test has a false negative rate of 50% to 70%. So better chances flipping a coin than the test being correct.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (P0nip)

146 Excellent write-up by Michela - you all should read it if you haven't to see how quickly all of this "news" spread over there.

This makes me wonder, sadly, if vmom's spring break plans with her family to travel to Italy will have to be cancelled.

Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (/669Q)

147 I can't remember if it was a moron or someone else who said: The disease is rarely the real problem, the real problem is panic and over-reaction by governments.

That's my take.

There's a time and place for quarantines and they do work, but this isn't Captain Tripps, this is a bad respiratory virus.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (l4C/z)

148 It's now officially the worst stock market since the financial crash in 08.

Show your math, asshole.

My frame begins January 20, 2017. How about you?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (Boy/L)

149 We have noticed a distinct lack of panic on your part.

Report for re-education no later than 5:00 PM this afternoon.

Posted by: Deep-State Media and Kazoo band at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (e284m)

150 Norks ain't gonna report shit.

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (l3+k2)

151 Rush said yesterday they've determined that the way to PREVENT the flu is high amounts of vitamin D.

There are vitamin D deficiencies around the world because of the overhyping of sun exposure and cancer and everyone using SPF1000 sunscreen.

Whether it really means to or not, your government betters are out to kill you.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

152 We used to trust the news media to give us a dispassionate, accurate picture of the world.

They eroded that trust decades ago, long before they destroyed it with Obama Worship Services and Orange Man Bad.

Now, we really have no way of knowing what's going on in the world.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (19g6/)

153 *The GOP's greatest weakness is candidate selection on the State level. They just have never been able to get a good recruiting pipeline set up.*

First of all, they tend to "recruit" political hacks who have paid their dues. And if an outsider defeats their selected political hack, they cut him off at the knees, Cuccinelli style.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (BeYX8)

154 From Posibiec an hour ago:
Newly recovered patients exceeding newly infected
New antiviral drug is proving effective.
How long before we have an effective vaccine?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (QzF6i)

155 139 71 SK has 1700 cases 13 deaths.
Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:07 AM (EsGqq)

and my wife bought a Hyundai

fuck

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (rpxSz)

156 Norks report 0 cases.

Lol sure jan.

They had a very open and active border with China.

It's closed now but no way are they at 0.
Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (EsGqq)

They've probably executed anyone deemed infected, knowing them.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (EFiUo)

157 Chinese air quality is the shit. I mean shitty. As in air-most-foul.

Posted by: nip-registered Libertarian at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (Izot6)

Burnin' that soft coal...in plants w/o scrubbers.

Posted by: BignJames at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (X/Pw5)

158 Posted by: Yankeesinjuries at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (vq7F7)

You are stupid. Any middle schooler can do the math and see that your hysterical claim is incorrect. And citing some MSM retard to back it up doesn't help.

So...good bye.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (dLLD6)

159 Chinese air quality is the shit. I mean shitty. As in air-most-foul.
Posted by: nip-registered Libertarian at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM (Izot6)

Remember when they shut down factories in order to clear the air for the Bejing Olympics? They didn't want the coverage to show the orange air hovering over the cities.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (vfS9U)

160 China has a lot of outposts in Africa. Could get interesting

Posted by: josephistan

I wonder if climate is playing a role, because you're right, you would expect it to be in Africa by now (it is, but not in a big way, yet)?

I've been trying to find out why the flu goes away every year. It seems it's because people are closer in winter, so when someone sneezes or coughs, it has a better chance of passing the infection. Also, they're breathing dry air, which makes the lungs more susceptible to infection.
I suppose it's possible that that's why Africa is doing better than expected.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (T6t7i)

161 I have stacking modules and have done several firmware upgrades. I am by no means a Cisco guru, so there is always some pucker factor when I patch them. Key thing is to RTFM.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 27, 2020 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
---------------

I don't have to deal with Cisco stuff any more but back when I did, and my first switch upgrade went sideways, it was, shall we say, interesting?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (RIAR/)

162 144: NBC "News"

LOL!! Try again sport.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (vN4+Q)

163 142 >> We deliver health care much quicker and much more effectively than China, our citizens are much healthier, and our culture limits exposure to these things in many ways. Why, it's almost as if there are qualitative differences in cultures and countries!

I will note that it is possible to get approximately first-world healthcare in many (at least the more urbanized) parts of China...if you can pay cash at point of service.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (8erNz)

164 Would also like to get some type of demographic stats on the deaths.

1. Were they the old? The young?

2. Were they heavy smokers?

3. Were they already sick or were they completely healthy?

4. The medical personnel that have died from it, were they worn down due to working 24/7?

I mean normal helpful questions that haven't been getting answered. We only get 13 DEAD in SOUTH KOREA! 6 DEAD IN ITALY! MANY DEAD IN IRAN!

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (n/0Nw)

165 Can you imagine if/when COVd19 gets loose in Africa ?

hygiene and healthcare systems worse than China

Curious how it has not yet...
--Hmm. You think Ebola protects against Covid19?

Posted by: FrodoB,
because PHDNKH at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (veJcn)

166 144 Christina Ginn
@NBChristinaGinn
BREAKING NEWS:

We are now in the worst stock market drop since financial crisis in 2008.
9:33 AM Feb 27, 2020
Posted by: Yankeesinjuries at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (vq7F7)

That's a lie. The market lost over 50% of its value from highs over 14k to lows below 7k. We have lost 10 -12% since the highs.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (P0nip)

167 146 Excellent write-up by Michela - you all should read it if you haven't to see how quickly all of this "news" spread over there.

This makes me wonder, sadly, if vmom's spring break plans with her family to travel to Italy will have to be cancelled.
Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (/669Q)

Maybe some plans should be modified, like go to Paris instead. Paris, Texas, can be quite nice in the spring.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (Kpl3J)

168 Did you know that NK has an 11 mile border with Russia? May not seem like much, but it's perfect for collusion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (1ISKN)

169 I occasionally type something worth while. It's rare. I'm savoring.

Posted by: nip at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (Izot6)

170 Am I being insensitive and racist by calling this Chinese AIDS?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:16 AM

You mean more than To Wong Flu and Hong Kong Fluey?

Naaaahhh.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (ejd/p)

171 I would not put it past the Chinese Government to have let this virus loose on purpose in an effort to stop Trump from getting reelected. He has been the only modern President to tell them no and then back it up with action.

After all, if the economy tanks Trump's chances for another 4 years go out the window and we get bernie sanders.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)

172 >>Michela Musolino

My Italian is rough...but,

that makes her a singular Musolini, no?

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (T7UIP)

173 That's less of a percentage than the common flu.

Posted by: Sooner

I'll notify Dr. Fauci.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (T6t7i)

174 I'm pushing 29, so fingers crossed!

Posted by: Regular joe--
From which side?

Posted by: FrodoB,
because PHDNKH at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (veJcn)

175 3 weeks til spring

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (rpxSz)

176 You have to admire how good the Dems have gotten at being able to blame Trump for absolutely everything.

If Trump takes the logical actions to curb the coronavirus coming here in cracking down on immigration and closing the borders, they get to yell at him for racism and being uncaring about those less fortunate.

If he doesn't, they get to blame him for not doing enough to stop the spread.

Heads I win, tails you lose.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 27, 2020

*
*

Dear President Trump:

Ignore the Dems and MSM. Continue doing your job.

-- A happy citizen of the U.S.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (Ejm1K)

177 152 We used to trust the news media to give us a dispassionate, accurate picture of the world.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm
===========================

They were always full of shit, we're just more aware of it now. Yellow journalism has been around since the town crier was a thing.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (prSvo)

178 FORD !!
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (rpxSz)

ZAPHOD!!!!

Posted by: Ford Prefect at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (6rS3m)

179 146 Excellent write-up by Michela - you all should read it if you haven't to see how quickly all of this "news" spread over there.

This makes me wonder, sadly, if vmom's spring break plans with her family to travel to Italy will have to be cancelled.
Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (/669Q)

==========

We're going to England in August.

Maybe there won't be anyone left alive because of Brexit and the coronavirus, and we won't have to deal with crowds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (zZbCU)

180 We are now in the worst stock market drop since financial crisis in 2008.
9:33 AM Feb 27, 2020
Posted by: Yankeesinjuries at February 27, 2020 11:17 AM (vq7F7)

That's a lie. The market lost over 50% of its value from highs over 14k to lows below 7k. We have lost 10 -12% since the highs.
Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (P0nip)

It's cute you think the truth matters.

The cat is out of the bag. RETWEETS!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

181 Greta Thunberg must be given to the gods to appease them.

Posted by: Laurent X at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (ZS9TG)

182 Is that bastard giving a bad name to Yankees?
We already have enough of a bad name dammit!

If he was a real Yankee, he'd find a way to profit from all this chaos.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (e284m)

183 I think climate is playing a role, definitely

we talk about how Chinese people smoke heavily and live in polluted air - this compromises their lungs to begin with, and COVID appears to cause lung infection

SUNSHINE

the best disinfectant. Sun - nice bright sunny sun - and the accordant Vitamin D infusion is what ends flu season

it will end this virus also, and it will mitigate the severity in Africa and India despite their third world conditions.

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! (DlsPn) at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (j9HX3)

184 Curious how it has not yet...
--Hmm. You think Ebola protects against Covid19?

Posted by: FrodoB,
because PHDNKH at February 27, 2020 11:19 AM (veJcn)

Maybe it's scared of what is in Africa?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (hLRSq)

185 Burnin' that soft coal...in plants w/o scrubbers.

Some decades back, as the Chinese economy was just starting to ramp, a firm I'd been involved with dismantled a couple of their first post-WWII generating units and shipped them to China.

They've got the money to buy much better stuff now, but I bet those old boilers are still boiling...

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (8erNz)

186 >>I suppose it's possible that that's why Africa is doing better than expected.

Might be the first time anyone has ever used that sentence.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (T7UIP)

187 >>Or is it just a SWAG and another shot at grift?

This.
Also, he probably thinks: higher dollar request = I care more
I'm thinking back to the Puerto Rico billions that were quickly redistributed to greedy palms, the warehouses full of food, water, supplies that sit stocked and forgotten because of a similar push by these scumbag Democrats to OMG DO SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE DYING WE MUST ACT NOW IT'S ALL ON TRUMP.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (bDqIh)

188 You go home, Yankee. We no want you here.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (1ISKN)

189 I saw some old pics of Julie Newmar from the 50's. DEAR GOD that woman had legs!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (l4C/z)

190 (removes Laurent X ghetto moniker, folds neatly, puts in shirt-box, stores in closet)

It is not yet time for you, my friend. Not yet time.

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (qXNVo)

191 > Rush said yesterday they've determined that the way to PREVENT the flu is high amounts of vitamin D.

I'm in the PNW. I tell every recently transplanted co-worker to go buy 2,000 IU vitamin D pills. One a day vitamins are calibrated to places with more sun than us. So far, everyone who takes my advice gets through our winters with little to no SAD.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (i0wNm)

192 We're all gonna die, so the only appropriate response to all this is to tap into the Strategic Hookers and Blow Reserve.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (NWiLs)

193 What I don't understand is why people would consider a pandemic like this to be a negative on the economy.

The problem is that certain sections of the economy will be screwed up, and then the disruption spreads.

Take car manufacturing. A car is about ten thousand different components made by about a thousand different manufacturers. What happens to the car production when lets say the Ignition wiring is not available, because the factory in China is still shut down? Maybe they find a new supplier, but it takes a week? Multiply that by the springs in the windshield wiper arm, the door speakers, the wiring harness for the headlights and the accessory outlets/ cigarette lighter sockets.

Everyone is scrambling to find new suppliers, but the production line is shutdown, and everyone is sitting at home not getting paid. The other suppliers aren't needed, so they also furlough their workers too. The short GM strike is going to take a few tenths of a percent out of the nation's GDP. GM is only one of three car manufacturers. Imagine what happens if half the US manufacturers furlough workers for a week, or two? Not just cars, but farm machinery, appliances, HVAC, etc.

Add in the medical supplies and pharmaceutical interruptions from China Inc. Vietnam and other Asian countries sew textiles to make clothes, etc. They are shutting factories down because the textiles are made in Chinese factories that are shutdown by the Wuhan Pneumonia/ Coronavirus / COVID 2019.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (+0uDE)

194 Maybe there won't be anyone left alive because of Brexit and the coronavirus, and we won't have to deal with crowds.

When property values in the Cotswolds take a dive, let me know...

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (8erNz)

195 90 Norks report 0 cases.
Lol sure jan.
They had a very open and active border with China.
It's closed now but no way are they at 0.

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:10 AM (EsGqq)
----------------------------------------
Actually, there could be 0 confirmed cases there.
If they just shoot anyone who sneezes before testing 'em.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (M/9m0)

196 189 I saw some old pics of Julie Newmar from the 50's. DEAR GOD that woman had legs!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (l4C/z)

She knew how to use 'em.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (NWiLs)

197 >192
We're all gonna die, so the only appropriate response to all this is to tap into the Strategic Hookers and Blow Reserve.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (NWiLs)

Need a 'script for that?

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (sjdRT)

198 >>189
I saw some old pics of Julie Newmar from the 50's. DEAR GOD that woman had legs! Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (l4C/z)

This is correct. An entire generation of young boys moved a bit closer to the television when an episode of Batman had "Cat Woman" in it.

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (qXNVo)

199 189
I saw some old pics of Julie Newmar from the 50's. DEAR GOD that woman had legs!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (l4C/z)
Other equally nice parts too.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (e284m)

200 I don't know squat about the market but I have seen multiple articles in the last few months from experts who claimed the market was way over due for a correction.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (JUOKG)

201 I mean normal helpful questions that haven't been getting answered. We
only get 13 DEAD in SOUTH KOREA! 6 DEAD IN ITALY! MANY DEAD IN IRAN!

I'll take a crack at it.

1) It matters what the health of the population is.
2) It matters what an individual's health history and age is.

3) It matters what the quality of the country's health care infrastructure is.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (T6t7i)

202 Apropos of nothing:

So Obama hit the scene way back when. Most conservative leaning people said, "well, crap. A dem won. But this guy is a huge question mark. And the whole 'first black yaddy-yadda', so let's see how this pans out."

Weeks later was "Cash for Clunkers? This guy seems like a bit of a dope, doesn't he?"

Months later was "Holy shit, TFG is actually a foreign agent, isn't he?"

It took time to develop. And it was based on his own actions.

#OrangeManBad, however, was immediate. Fully formed. Right out of the gate.

Has nothing whatsoever to do with anything Trump is or says or does. Just pure Hatred Of The Other.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (FOGOI)

203 We're all gonna die, so the only appropriate response to all this is to tap into the Strategic Hookers and Blow Reserve.

Uh, someone gave Hunter B. the combo to the safe and it's all gone.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (Boy/L)

204 >>What I don't understand is why people would consider a pandemic like this to be a negative on the economy.

Wouldn't be if we hadn't shipped all our manufacturing facilities overseas to keep the greenies and the unions fat.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (T7UIP)

205 FORD !!
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (rpxSz)

ZAPHOD!!!!

All this shouting is getting me down...

Posted by: MARVIN at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (jLxx3)

206 I'm on prescription D, 50000 IU once a week.

Seemed wierd, but it hasn't made me feel sick or anything.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (1ISKN)

207 Diet Coke shortage? Coronavirus affecting Coca-Cola's supply of artificial sweeteners

Posted by: SMOD at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (3aI0K)

208 197 >192
We're all gonna die, so the only appropriate response to all this is to tap into the Strategic Hookers and Blow Reserve.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (NWiLs)

Need a 'script for that?
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (sjdRT)

Executive Order.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (NWiLs)

209 178 FORD !!
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (rpxSz)

ZAPHOD!!!!
Posted by: Ford Prefect at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (6rS3m)

get off of my cloud

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (rpxSz)

210 North Korea reports no cases of Coronavirus.

HOW WOULD THEY KNOW? The people are mostly sick all the time anyway.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

211 Need a 'script for that?
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (sjdRT)
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Get back in that mummy suit, Romeo.

Posted by: Chani at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (/669Q)

212 137 Servo

It looks to me as if the GOP has found an unusually GOOD group of viable House challengers this time. Here are 4 of them, to whom I've contributed recently:

Hinson in IA;
Chase in NM;
Mace in SC; and
B. Owens in UT.

These are all districts Trump carried, but which are now represented by freshmen DEM House members. Owens is a former NFL star & may need $$$ less than the others.

Posted by: mnw at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (Cssks)

213 >>I being insensitive and racist by calling this Chinese AIDS?

I've seen it referred to as "Xivirus' that pins the blame on president Xi, which seems a better descriptor than dissing all of China and her people?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (bDqIh)

214 189
I saw some old pics of Julie Newmar from the 50's. DEAR GOD that woman had legs!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (l4C/z)

YouTube, Lil' Abner, Stupifyin' Jones.

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (l3+k2)

215 We also are not OK with killing and/or letting our citizens die for expediency, a profit, to hide a pandemic, etc..

===
I assume by 'we' you are not including Democrats. Otherwise your statement is invalid.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (d6mdH)

216 >> FORD !!
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (rpxSz)

>>ZAPHOD!!!!
Posted by: Ford Prefect at February 27, 2020 11:21 AM (6rS3m)

'You're a kneebiter, Dent. A real Jerk!'

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (T7UIP)

217 I'm on prescription D, 50000 IU once a week.

Seemed wierd, but it hasn't made me feel sick or anything.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (1ISKN)

That's a lot.

Prolly avoid sun exposure unless absolutely necessary.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

218 Make them in standard furlongs
Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:04 AM (vd8XM)

Arshins and include a conversion table

Posted by: Kindltot at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (6rS3m)

219 >Need a 'script for that?

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (sjdRT)

Executive Order.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (NWiLs)

So let it be done!

I'm flying to FL tomorrow. Be nice to me or I'll bring my Mom and her cat to visit.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (sjdRT)

220 I would not put it past the Chinese Government to have let this virus loose on purpose in an effort to stop Trump from getting reelected. He has been the only modern President to tell them no and then back it up with action.

After all, if the economy tanks Trump's chances for another 4 years go out the window and we get bernie sanders.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)

I"m still of the mind this was an accident due to incompetence and flippancy of researchers at the Wuhan lab. As a bioresearch guest on Tucker pointed out, researchers in China often will take lab animals that have survived experiments to local markets to sell them live as meat to generate some cash for themselves. Wuhan is the only level IV bioresearch lab in China and this is just too convenient for a novel type of coronavirus to have started there in the local population.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (vfS9U)

221 >>>China, probably.

The cigs are probably filled with sawdust or something else cheap and unhealthy.<<<

Bat guano. Mild and fruity.

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (2Mnv1)

222 China works very hard at saving face ... and promoting TheNarrative (China version, DeepState has their own Narrative). So they show beautiful lights of the Center of the Universe Wuhan ... and leave out all the negative realities.

Same when they had Olympics ... the actually put up walls to hide the poor sections ... painted pretty murals on the walls for a false facade. There were shortages of glyphosate (Round-Up, prices doubled or more) here because they quit making it in that area (so I heard) to try to reduce their pollution, to save face for the Olympics.

Johns Hopkins says US is #1 in prep for a potential pandemic ... as Trump noted yesterday. We will fare better than others ... need to move supply chains home though, in any case. And #1, need to get the NewsSupplyChain back from China and DeepState that run current MSM. The fake news cheers/propagandizes for Coronavirus to defeat Trump/Liberty.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (Cus5s)

223 Take your vitamin D and vitamin C and keep your immune system strong. Be prepared so you don't have to venture out if there is a panic. Panicked sheeple are the biggest threat, not the virus.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (prSvo)

224 I'm flying to FL tomorrow. Be nice to me or I'll bring my Mom and her cat to visit.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (sjdRT)

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (NWiLs)

225 221 >>>China, probably.

The cigs are probably filled with sawdust or something else cheap and unhealthy.

Bat guano. Mild and fruity.
Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (2Mnv1)

Chicken of the Cave

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (l4C/z)

226 The numbers are defnitely iffy and while I agree that they need to be broken down more that doesn't mean this virus isn't potentially a significant problem and the markets are reacting rather rationally given the uncertainty factor, both in information that should be available now and uncertainty in the potential. The raw numbers of deaths/(deaths + recoveries) is not good even outside of China. In total (China heavily weighted) the death rate is 8%, outside of China it's now double that at 15%.

That said, the hysteria in the general public is, given what we know now, overboard.

Posted by: WTP at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (66rlH)

227 Melamine Supplements are how you fight the Flu.

Posted by: Chinese Doctor at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (T7UIP)

228 194 Maybe there won't be anyone left alive because of Brexit and the coronavirus, and we won't have to deal with crowds.

When property values in the Cotswolds take a dive, let me know...

Posted by: JEM

I loved that area of England.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (vN4+Q)

229 41. 'The Last Centurion"

I heartily recommend it to all here.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (iSh8b)

230 This is correct. An entire generation of young boys
moved a bit closer to the television when an episode of Batman had "Cat
Woman" in it.

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:23 AM (qXNVo)
Don't forget the forces of goodness and nice hotness - Batgirl too. Yvonne Craig

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (e284m)

231 I'm flying to FL tomorrow. Be nice to me or I'll bring my Mom and her cat to visit.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (sjdRT)
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Safe trip. If you do catch the coronavirus, please to take care to get all better before the NoVaMoMe. Many thanks.

Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (/669Q)

232 It would help if we actually tested for it. And offered the tests for free instead of charging 3500 per test. Kinda hard to have new cases when people are not being tested here.

Coronavirus tests given so far in South Korea = 56,395
Coronavirus test results returned so far in South Korea = 35,298
Coronavirus tests given so far by CDC in United States = 445

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (P0nip)

233 Insom

Hookers, blow & FIREWORKS! You forgot one.

Posted by: mnw at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (Cssks)

234 If it hits the US, I'm going to run out and get it as fast as I can. I figure it's better to get it in the begining before the supplies run out.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (1ISKN)

235
*smugly pats self on back, for having set racheting stop-loss orders*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (xSo9G)

236 Does anyone know if having been exposed to net neutrality and tax cuts mitigates the effects of Covid19?

Posted by: Central Scrutinzer

Relax, the evil black rifles probably killed most of us anyway.

Posted by: Brother ~~Cavil~~ Tim at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (OUMaO)

237 Diet Coke shortage? Coronavirus affecting Coca-Cola's supply of artificial sweeteners
Posted by: SMOD at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (3aI0K)

I head that this morning. Apparently, the vast majority of artificial sweeteners are made in China.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (vfS9U)

238 I think it would be possible to preserve the nucleus of our species at the bottom of some of our deepest mineshafts. A computer could be programmed to select members of our population for the most necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

"Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?"

"Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (Kpl3J)

239 214 189
I saw some old pics of Julie Newmar from the 50's. DEAR GOD that woman had legs!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (l4C/z)

YouTube, Lil' Abner, Stupifyin' Jones.
Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (l3+k2)

Good for the heart

Sadly, you can't make something as sexy as Lil' Abner today, outside of porn

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (l4C/z)

240 Oh look, the troll is here.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (prSvo)

241 228
Dow still crashing today

Are we no longer interested in capitalism ?

Posted by: Kurt at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (ZN+H

No, but apparently we think we're going to do something useful with the money we're stuffing under the mattresses after our panic selling.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (e284m)

242 Vanya, you aren't designing a Mars lander, are you?

We've done this before.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (6rS3m)

243 Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (sjdRT)

Where will you be and for how long?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (NWiLs)

244 >>223
Take your vitamin D and vitamin C and keep your immune system strong.
Be prepared so you don't have to venture out if there is a panic.Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (prSvo)

Hold your breath most of the time.

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (qXNVo)

245 As a U.S. Senator, Bernie Sanders sponsored legislation to allow Vermont and Maine to dump their nuclear waste in a town in TX (Sierra Blanca) populated by poor latinos.

The poor townies objected and protested at Bernie's D.C. office and invited him to come to Sierra Blanca and see it for himself before he dumped toxic waste all over it, but he told them to get stuffed.

Bwhahahahaha. So looking forward to this guy being the Dim nominee. Commie and environmental raaaaaaaaacist!!!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (k4dH2)

246 >> It would help if we actually tested for it. And offered the tests for free instead of charging 3500 per test. Kinda hard to have new cases when people are not being tested here.

Kinda dumb to waste testing and monies in a country of 300 mil and >100 cases.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (T7UIP)

247 230 41. 'The Last Centurion"

I heartily recommend it to all here.
Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (iSh8b)

I'm all in

Posted by: BUTTBOI at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (rpxSz)

248
After all, if the economy tanks Trump's chances for another 4 years go out the window and we get bernie sanders.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)

Nope. Won't happen.

Posted by: Sooner at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (Fs5vw)

249 If you give up porn for lent, does looking at naked pics count as porn?

Asking for a friend.....

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

250 235
If it hits the US, I'm going to run out and get it as fast as I can. I
figure it's better to get it in the begining before the supplies run
out.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Yeah, and you'll get a sweet spot on the cart before it gets overcrowded.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (T6t7i)

251 Everyone is scrambling to find new suppliers, but the production line is shutdown, and everyone is sitting at home not getting paid. The other suppliers aren't needed, so they also furlough their workers too. The short GM strike is going to take a few tenths of a percent out of the nation's GDP. GM is only one of three car manufacturers.

HOW many car manufacturers?

Most of what Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, etc. sell in the US is built in North America. Lots of BMWs, Mercedes, as well.

Yeah, you've got wiring harnesses made in Mexican maquiladoras using Chinese-sourced connectors shipped to Alabama to be stuffed into a car full of Canadian-sourced plastics...

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (8erNz)

252 Tulsi Gabbard tweeted saying we should suspend flights from Japan and S.Korea.

Agreed. Trump needs to be proactive.

Posted by: Leo Gorcery at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (THWpL)

253 >Where will you be and for how long?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (NWiLs)

Ft Myers. Just for a day. Gotta load her and the cat up and start the drive back to her home in IL.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (sjdRT)

254
Hold your breath most of the time.
Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (qXNVo)

And you fuckers laughed at me.

Reap it, bitches.

Posted by: Bubbleboy at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

255 Ace should post as "Ace2" when making posts about the Virus.
Posted by: Surfperch at February 27, 2020 11:03 AM (EFiUo)

-------

He would mix up the passwords and lock himself out of the blog AGAIN
.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (+0uDE)

256 Dow still crashing today

Are we no longer interested in capitalism ?

Posted by: Kurt at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM

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Uh a 1.92% decline for the day so far is not a "crash", just sayin......

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (JUOKG)

257 241 Oh look, the troll is here.

Posted by: Guzalot

As soon as the market rebounds, it will scurry back to its cave.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (vN4+Q)

258 Farts!
Double farts!!

Posted by: Yo! at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (1XAal)

259 Hey Kurt.....who we?

Posted by: BignJames at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (X/Pw5)

260 >>Tulsi Gabbard tweeted saying we should suspend flights from Japan and S.Korea.

All international flights. Period.

Posted by: Occam's Strop at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (T7UIP)

261 >>As a bioresearch guest on Tucker pointed out, researchers in China often
will take lab animals that have survived experiments to local markets
to sell them live as meat to generate some cash for themselves.

Yes, that is frightening. It boggles the mind that the people who know the most about infectious diseases would be this careless for a little extra cash.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (bDqIh)

262 I"m still of the mind this was an accident due to incompetence and flippancy of researchers at the Wuhan lab."

Yes, I just don't quite follow the thinking that says the plan was "Hey, lets stop Trump by killing thousands of our own people and destroying our own credibility in the eyes of the rest of them!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (Kpl3J)

263 Hold your breath most of the time.
Posted by: Zod
=====================

I think I'll settle for just washing my hands more often. Maybe Kurt will heed your advice though.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (prSvo)

264 Farts!
Double farts!!
Posted by: Yo! at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (1XAal)

SPALDING!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

265 254 >Where will you be and for how long?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (NWiLs)

Ft Myers. Just for a day. Gotta load her and the cat up and start the drive back to her home in IL.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (sjdRT)

Ah, gotcha. Too far from me to go grab a quick beer, unfortunately.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (NWiLs)

266 NYT ran an opinion piece about how we all know who to blame for the "Trumpvirus". Its pretty pathetic, wretched stuff that in years past the editors would have rejected outright as being utterly unworthy of their publishing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (KZzsI)

267 I've heard of three people who died and all three were in their mid to late eighties and all three were health compromised. Chronic bronchitis - I didn't know there was chronic bronchitis. Holy shit!

Posted by: Kdawg at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (lQn8v)

268 So the stock market troll has arrived.. Where's the poll troll? Oh.. I guess Trump at 52% on Rasmussen isn't the kind of poll "it" likes

Posted by: It's me donna at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (6XlcD)

269 Uh a 1.92% decline for the day so far is not a "crash", just sayin......
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (JUOKG)
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Add it to the rest of the week, and it's getting close.

Posted by: Leo Gorcery at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (THWpL)

270 250 If you give up porn for lent, does looking at naked pics count as porn?

Asking for a friend.....

Define 'porn'.

I just had a horrible thought...how an attorney would draft a lenten agreement...you're giving up PIV porn but not Japanese girls peeing...

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)

271 There are people who watch and subscribe to CNBC, Bloomberg, The Economist, etc., who merely want to be seen doing so. Because they want to look smart. Hell, they're even trying to convince themselves that they are smart. But they have no idea what they're looking at.

Problem is, recently those outlets realized that that demographic is basically 99% of their consumers.

... and they adjusted the content accordingly.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (FOGOI)

272 Yes, I just don't quite follow the thinking that says the plan was "Hey, lets stop Trump by killing thousands of our own people and destroying our own credibility in the eyes of the rest of them!"

Me either. I suspect it was intended to be used as a weapon but either someone messed up at the lab or there was a 12 monkeys incident.

Strangely, the Chinese government is not blaming the USA for it, which the USSR would have tried.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (KZzsI)

273 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:27 AM (Kpl3J)[/]

We cannot allow. a mine. shaft. gap!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MARVIN at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (jLxx3)

274 Dow still crashing today
Are we no longer interested in capitalism ?
Posted by: Kurt
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OMG, OMG, OMG!

So the DJ has fallen to +2000 over the 52 week low?

Crash! Crash! It's a CRASH!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (xSo9G)

275 The Dow doesn't need to be at 30k anyway.

This is just a correction for it being way to damn high.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

276 But your vacation to the abandoned cities will be ruined if we restrict travel! Your opportunity to be quarantined will be greatly reduced!

What kind of a freakin vacation is it if you can't go where no one is right now, get no food, no service, and don't risk getting stuck in quarantine!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (e284m)

277 250 If you give up porn for lent, does looking at naked pics count as porn?

Asking for a friend.....
Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

They must be TASTEFUL naked pics.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (Ez6QX)

278 @JackPosobiec 1 minute ago

Two New Potential Cases of Coronavirus Surface In Virginia

Bring your own mask to the MoMe....

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (cF8AT)

279 The "market" & the "economy" are distinctly different critters!

A market correction & "the economy crashing" aren't usually joined at the hip. Now... a secular bear market would be different.

Posted by: mnw at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (Cssks)

280 The numbers are defnitely iffy and while I agree that they need to be broken down more that doesn't mean this virus isn't potentially a significant problem and the markets are reacting rather rationally given the uncertainty factor, both in information that should be available now and uncertainty in the potential. The raw numbers of deaths/(deaths + recoveries) is not good even outside of China. In total (China heavily weighted) the death rate is 8%, outside of China it's now double that at 15%.

That said, the hysteria in the general public is, given what we know now, overboard.
Posted by: WTP at February 27, 2020 11:26 AM (66rlH)

You trust the Chicoms. And no. This isn't a significant virus. Ebola is a significant virus.

Posted by: Sooner at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (Fs5vw)

281 275 Dow still crashing today
Are we no longer interested in capitalism ?
Posted by: Kurt
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yes, home sales were through the "roof" pardon the pun

Posted by: It's me donna at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (6XlcD)

282 So the world is figuring out that having a lot of reliance in China is not the best idea .....

Posted by: Yo! at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (1XAal)

283 I hear there's a lot of Asians in China.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (1ISKN)

284 Add it to the rest of the week, and it's getting close.

Not really. Look at it graph form, its still way, way up over the last year. Its just dipped some from its previous gigantic high (maybe too high?)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (KZzsI)

285 276 The Dow doesn't need to be at 30k anyway.

This is just a correction for it being way to damn high.
Posted by: Sponge
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Agreed, a correction was needed so it might as well come now so it will be a distant memory come November.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 11:33 AM (prSvo)

286 Just watched a CNN segment on how the fast food sector is handling the virus in China.

They are so much more advanced and competent than anything here in the U.S.

The people eating bats and snakes in the country are fucked, but the people eating fried chicken, pizza and burgers are well protected.

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (U6f/q)

287 I've heard of three people who died and all three
were in their mid to late eighties and all three were health
compromised. Chronic bronchitis - I didn't know there was chronic
bronchitis. Holy shit!

Posted by: Kdawg at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM

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I had bronchitis for better than six months before it got so bad I went to the Doctor. Had no clue I was even sick just started getting short of breath when I lifted heavy stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (JUOKG)

288 Tea-leave expert Kurt is branching out to tarot card reading it seems.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (KUaJL)

289 Concerning China...don't forget their hideous air pollution.

It probably damages their lungs as much as smoking might.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (W+kMI)

290 >>Two New Potential Cases of Coronavirus Surface In Virginia

Two New Potential Cases...

jesus christ.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (T7UIP)

291 Yes, that is frightening. It boggles the mind that the people who know the most about infectious diseases would be this careless for a little extra cash.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:30 AM (bDqIh)

hehehe... "know the most"....

Oh, honey. These people don't know dick about squat.

They poke the thing with the other thing and write down something or other in a lab book, whatever the lab director says to, then they collect their paycheck.

"Research" and "Expertise" are myths and illusions.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (FOGOI)

292
NYT ran an opinion piece about how we all know who to blame for the "Trumpvirus". Its pretty pathetic, wretched stuff that in years past the editors would have rejected outright as being utterly unworthy of their publishing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:31 AM (KZzsI)

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Wait, are you poking fun, or are these NYT goons actually calling this "the Trumpvirus?"

Because if so, that's hilarious.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (AzW6q)

293 US still at 60 cases for 10 days now.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (JFO2v)

294 Two New Potential Cases of Coronavirus Surface In Virginia

Democrat legislators?

I hereby denounce myself for saying that.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (8erNz)

295 Speaking of polls, Biden now leads by 20% in SC and Bernie is close to not even making the 15% threshold.

I thought old Joe was a goner, but he seems to be making a comeback.

And Mayor Pete has cancelled all fundraisers because he has a cold. He'll be out of the race soon.

Posted by: Leo Gorcery at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (THWpL)

296 210
North Korea reports no cases of Coronavirus.

HOW WOULD THEY KNOW? The people are mostly sick all the time anyway.

precisely. ecological niche already filled, no space for coronavirus.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (sGtp+)

297 Yesterday Trump gave a speech to try to calm things down.

Today, Dems give speeches with more inflammatory rhetoric.

Its pretty clear what is going on.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (NgKpN)

298 So the stock market troll has arrived.. Where's the poll troll? Oh.. I guess Trump at 52% on Rasmussen isn't the kind of poll "it" likes
Posted by: It's me donna
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Stuttering ggreg, Kurt, and rainmandodo. The trifecta of trolldom. If only we could get AOC to drop in...or maybe Schumer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (xSo9G)

299 If it's a Chinese bio-weapon, China would never admit it.

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (l3+k2)

300 Bring your own mask to the MoMe....

Posted by: Tami

Mine's red, and it's spelled Masque.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (T6t7i)

301 I don't follow the Lent thing but it seems to me that if you're looking for exceptions and technicalities you really don't understand the concept.

This is just a correction for it being way to damn high.

That's the sense I have as well, it makes me kind of nervous when the stock market goes crazy like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (KZzsI)

302 Wouldn't it be interesting if corona virus led to the re-industrialization of the USA and the West?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (hLRSq)

303 291 >>Two New Potential Cases of Coronavirus Surface In Virginia

Two New Potential Cases...

Potential because they either were in China/ Asia or on one of those cruises.. That's how they consider them potential..

Posted by: It's me donna at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (6XlcD)

304 EM WU HAIR A FIRE PEACH!

Posted by: Maxine Waters Wig at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (gmo/4)

305 I thought old Joe was a goner, but he seems to be making a comeback.
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Their primary is Saturday, we shall see...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (xSo9G)

306 >>I thought old Joe was a goner, but he seems to be making a comeback.

Nah - SC is where he put ALL of his liited resources.

This will be nothing more than Biden's last Death Rattle.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (T7UIP)

307 293

Wait, are you poking fun, or are these NYT goons actually calling this "the Trumpvirus?"

Because if so, that's hilarious.

imma start callin' it "coronagate".

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (sGtp+)

308 210 North Korea reports no cases of Coronavirus.

They just have a lot better control over their media reporting. World class stuff.

Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (SUJyY)

309 You trust the Chicoms. And no. This isn't a significant virus. Ebola is a significant virus.
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No, I don't trust the Chicoms. That was my point. I didn't think Ebola was a significant threat to the US for many reasons, and the mini-panic that that caused (I was in NYC at the time someone returned with it) was ridiculous. This thing has much greater potential. Relatively speaking.

Posted by: WTP at February 27, 2020 11:35 AM (66rlH)

310 Kurt's concerned about capitalism. Monkeys with keyboards.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (y7DUB)

311 Wait, are you poking fun, or are these NYT goons actually calling this "the Trumpvirus?"

Because if so, that's hilarious.

They are, and it is.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (ZGrMX)

312 Ft Myers. Just for a day. Gotta load her and the cat up and start the drive back to her home in IL.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 27, 2020 11:29 AM (sjdRT)
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I was just there three weeks ago and already people were wearing masks in the airport and on the plane. Can't imagine what it will be like now.

Posted by: bluebell at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (/669Q)

313 I do quite a bit of international travel for business in Europe and Latin America

Boss said to cancel all int'l travel til further notice

Guess Im not making Platinum this year...

Posted by: McCool at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (lWCRE)

314 Johns Hopkins says US is #1 in prep for a potential pandemic ... as Trump noted yesterday. We will fare better than others ... need to move supply chains home though, in any case. And #1, need to get the NewsSupplyChain back from China and DeepState that run current MSM. The fake news cheers/propagandizes for Coronavirus to defeat Trump/Liberty.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (Cus5s)

Agree. We still only have a total of 100k ICU units. Given that around 20% require ICU for weeks, beginning to build another 100k a month ago would have been wiser to err on the side of caution. Also actually testing for the virus. We have tested 445. Also closing the borders with national guard. Stopping all air travel from Asian countries that would be a high risk as well.

Sick people and old sick people with symptoms are not being tested and being sent home with meds, and they aren't getting better. Reports of hospitals and clinics not wearing masks.

Things can be done better. Still can. Sadly they won't and a game of chance is being played in the face of scientific data which says we should prepare.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (P0nip)

315 I had bronchitis for better than six months before
it got so bad I went to the Doctor. Had no clue I was even sick just
started getting short of breath when I lifted heavy stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS)

I've had a cough with phlegm for the last 2 months, and nothing seems to get rid of it, including a bout of antibiotics. What did they finally do for you?

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (T6t7i)

316 regarding limited testing for ChinaVirus in the US .. last I heard we were going to start testing for those that show up with flu symptoms but test negative for flu. This was going to happen in six major cities ... Honolulu being the last one added.

This is to keep a "feeler" out there ... an indicator of infiltration into our country. (don't have a link, that is just from memory) We can then adjust our course of action accordingly. (without depending on histrionic CNN to prescribe "wave arms over head, run in circles" solutions)

Posted by: illiniwek at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (Cus5s)

317 Today, Dems give speeches with more inflammatory rhetoric.

Like that Stelter tweet which is the journalistic equivalence of yelling fire in a crowded theater. WHY AREN'T PEOPLE PANICKING ENOUGH???

Wait, are you poking fun, or are these NYT goons actually calling this "the Trumpvirus?"

These days its hard to tell, I agree.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (KZzsI)

318 To satisfy the MSM, Trump should declare martial law and rule by decree until the threat passes. Also kick he UN out of the US just to be sure.

Posted by: Ripley at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (MxEKc)

319 I am betting Kurt wants to abandon capitalism to save capitalism.

Maybe he's a Bush?

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (T7UIP)

320 246---........Bwhahahahaha. So looking forward to this guy being the Dim nominee. Commie and environmental raaaaaaaaacist!!!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 27, 2020 11:28 AM (k4dH2)
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Please, let it be so!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (M/9m0)

321 Kurt's concerned about capitalism. Monkeys with keyboards.
Posted by: Captain Hate
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Severely concerned, I am certain.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (CDGwz)

322 Speaking of polls, Biden now leads by 20% in SC and Bernie is close to not even making the 15% threshold.

I thought old Joe was a goner, but he seems to be making a comeback.

And Mayor Pete has cancelled all fundraisers because he has a cold. He'll be out of the race soon.
Posted by: Leo Gorcery at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (THWpL)

Clyburn endorsed Biden yesterday in a serious speech while holding Joe up by the shoulders. it was truly a Democrat moment. There is no way Clyburn doesn't recognize that Biden is mentally compromised, but he is still trying to help the party.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (vfS9U)

323 Unfortunately you can't trust the news anymore, which sucks in a time like this.

Posted by: Max Power at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (QCc6B)

324 TRUMP'S KATRINA!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

325 Two New Potential Cases of Coronavirus Surface In Virginia

Democrat legislators?

I hereby denounce myself for saying that.

And well you should. Two isn't even a start!

I self-denounce, too.

Posted by: db at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (jLxx3)

326 320 I am betting Kurt wants to abandon capitalism to save capitalism.

Maybe he's a Bush?
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (T7UIP)

He's definitely not a Busch.

Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (SUJyY)

327 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (arJlL)

328 I do follow Posobiec on a lot, but he has been one of the main drivers of fear porn on this...

Its irresponsible on his part because all he has to do on this is play the "hey I was just trying to keep people informed" card when this panic is over.

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (n/0Nw)

329
They are, and it is.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM (ZGrMX)

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LOL, and I'm sitting here thinking "wait, CRT can't be serious; this is Moron satire of Leftists, they can't actually be this unhinged. Trumpvirus. Heh. Good one, Chris."

You just can't make this shit up.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (AzW6q)

330 I"m still of the mind this was an accident due to incompetence and flippancy of researchers at the Wuhan lab. As a bioresearch guest on Tucker pointed out, researchers in China often will take lab animals that have survived experiments to local markets to sell them live as meat to generate some cash for themselves. Wuhan is the only level IV bioresearch lab in China and this is just too convenient for a novel type of coronavirus to have started there in the local population.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:25 AM (vfS9U)

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When this all started, I sort of flippantly suggested that one of the techs or a security guard stole the wrong lab animals to sell for a few yuan.

I still think that when Beijing heard who Patient Zero was , that was when China went Defcon 0 and started all the quarantines. The local bosses hid the facts for a few months, until it was out of control.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (+0uDE)

331 Media has been suffering from Orange Fever for years. It only stands to reason that their hallucination now equates it with an ACTUAL virus.

Posted by: reason at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (0n37U)

332
He's definitely not a Busch.
Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (SUJyY)

That's BUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSCCCHHHHHHHHHHH to you, sir.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

333 Wouldn't it be interesting if corona virus led to the re-industrialization of the USA and the West?

Elizabeth Warren announced she's introducing a bill to move all money spent on the wall to instead be spent on Wuhan Flu spending.

Because, you know, securing the border doesn't protect us from outbreaks or anything.

NONE of the Democrats have given any input or ideas on what to do or any sort of leadership on this. Just hysteria and criticism. That's ALL they have offered for a long time now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

334 The Democrats better watch out; Coronavirus is typically more deadly to the old and the frail. That could take out half their presidential candidates, along with congressional leadership *and* RBG.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (h4K3E)

335 R0 is between 4.8-6.7 in latest peer reviewed paper. The flu is 1.28. Spanish Flu was 2. This sends 20% of patients to ICU for weeks. All of this is known. Link to new R0 paper.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/ 10.1101/2020.02.07.20021154v1

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (P0nip)

336 Strangely, the Chinese government is not blaming the USA for it, which the USSR would have tried.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:32 AM (KZzsI)

I can think of a potential reason - the Chinese govm't would not want to say ANYTHING which could suggest that they think this was a manufactured virus, and not a naturally occurring and unforeseeable outbreak. Because the kinds of questions that will begin to be asked inside China, once they open that door, could get very uncomfortable for them very fast.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (Kpl3J)

337 >>Sick people and old sick people with symptoms are not being tested and being sent home with meds, and they aren't getting better. Reports of hospitals and clinics not wearing masks.

Stop spreading panic and nonsense.

It's Flu Season. Of course people are being sent home with...Flu Symptoms.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (T7UIP)

338 if nothing else, this whole fiasco illustrates the need for us to start making more of our crap right here in the states -
Seriously, which would you rather buy:

the Latest Apple product "made in the USA" for $1200

OR

that same Latest Apple product "made in China" for $1159

Posted by: Kdawg at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (lQn8v)

339 North Korea reports no cases of Coronavirus.

They just have a lot better control over their media reporting. World class stuff.
Posted by: Roy

That and border crossings are highly controlled.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (SMh/7)

340 >> R0 is between 4.8-6.7 in latest peer reviewed paper. The flu is 1.28. Spanish Flu was 2. This sends 20% of patients to ICU for weeks. All of this is known.

None of this data comes from a reliable source.

None of it. Give it 3 weeks in a 1st world nation and we will have an idea of where this is headed.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (T7UIP)

341 Tulsi Gabbard tweeted saying we should suspend flights from Japan and S.Korea.

All international flights. Period.

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Meanwhile, Tomahawk Lizzie . . .

Elizabeth Warren@ewarren
Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one.

Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

342 There is, surprisingly, a large amount of open territory to occupy between "Ignore it completely" and "OMG we're all going to die".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (FOGOI)

343 24 day incubation period.
Reinfection after recovery.
Targeting Asian males.

These things alone make your absurd comments even more absurd and dangerous. You sound a lot like the Chicoms lately Ace.

Posted by: fisht at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (g5ddn)

344 Rush said yesterday they've determined that the way to PREVENT the flu is high amounts of vitamin D.

********

Actually it was a caller to Rush's show making that claim and Rush shut him down immediately saying that he doesn't promote specific medical treatments on his show.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (m45I2)

345 Communist Eastern Europe....

Yup, let the socialists lecture us on the environment

Posted by: Yo! at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (1XAal)

346 Because, you know, securing the border doesn't protect us from outbreaks or anything.

NONE of the Democrats have given any input or ideas on what to do or
any sort of leadership on this. Just hysteria and criticism. That's
ALL they have offered for a long time now.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that the juxtaposition of the Dems saying we don't need a wall, and the CV numbers south of the border, will figure in some Trump campaign ads.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (T6t7i)

347 NONE of the Democrats have given any input or ideas on what to do or any sort of leadership on this. Just hysteria and criticism. That's ALL they have offered for a long time now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Never let a crisis go to waste.

If there isn't a crisis, create one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (CDGwz)

348 My Blatz stock is on fire

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (rpxSz)

349
Elizabeth Warren@ewarren
Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one.

Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

LOLGF, cuunt.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

350 Speaking of polls, Biden now leads by 20% in SC and Bernie is close to not even making the 15% threshold.

I thought old Joe was a goner, but he seems to be making a comeback.

And Mayor Pete has cancelled all fundraisers because he has a cold. He'll be out of the race soon.
Posted by: Leo Gorcery at February 27, 2020 11:34 AM (THWpL)

So that was snot on his upper lip at the
Debate?

Its Pretty funny that a common cold takes out the youngest person in the race and the octogenarians just keep going.

Posted by: LASue at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (Ed8Zd)

351
How are you supposed to tell if someone has Coronavirus in NK? Seriously. Most people there are in some stage of serious illness or starvation. I don't think you could tell one from the next.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (AzW6q)

352 I had bronchitis for better than six months before

it got so bad I went to the Doctor. Had no clue I was even sick just

started getting short of breath when I lifted heavy stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS)

I've had a cough with
phlegm for the last 2 months, and nothing seems to get rid of it,
including a bout of antibiotics. What did they finally do for you?

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:36 AM---

Amoxicillin. It worked for the most part but the side effects of that drug are pretty rough.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it never really went away, the antibiotics just pushed it back. Still have an occasional episode of shortness of breath. Going to the Dr. for my annual in two weeks and see what he wants to do.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (JUOKG)

353 336 R0 is between 4.8-6.7 in latest peer reviewed paper. The flu is 1.28. Spanish Flu was 2. This sends 20% of patients to ICU for weeks. All of this is known. Link to new R0 paper.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/ 10.1101/2020.02.07.20021154v1
Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (P0nip)

Measles is 3X that.

Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (SUJyY)

354 I actually have a cold right now. Should I be panicking?

What does Magic 8 Ball say?

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (l3+k2)

355 Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Because open borders are the best defense against coronavirus! Yaaaaa

Posted by: It's me donna at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (6XlcD)

356 NEW HAMPSHIRE

Sanders 46% Trump 46% . Trump 46% (+2) Biden 44% . Trump 47% (+14) Bloomberg 33%

@UNHSurveyCenter

2/19-25

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (EsGqq)

357 Meanwhile, Tomahawk Lizzie . . .

Elizabeth Warren@ewarren
Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one.

Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

LOL!!!!

"takes every dime... and diverts it...."

That *IS* your entire plan, you intergalactic numpty!

what else is there to possibly say about it tomorrow?

Hahahahaha.....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (FOGOI)

358 Actually it was a caller to Rush's show making that claim and Rush shut him down immediately saying that he doesn't promote specific medical treatments on his show.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (m45I2)

Yes, however that "theory" is out there and has been for quite some time.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

359 GregGutfeld@greggutfeld
Gross how media hopes for something bad to happen to a country to prove their humiliated idiocies of the past 4 years are finally validated. "The fears may be coming true..." they say hopefully.

-
Quoting Tater.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (+y/Ru)

360 Who makes the cigarettes that the Chinese smoke?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 27, 2020 10:57 AM (aKsyK)

North Carolina?

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (zqs/f)

361 Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

I could get behind spending a couple billion on 2000 miles of Coronavirus containment protocols.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (KUaJL)

362 '...and Albuterol Nebulizers in EVERY POT!'

Posted by: Liz Warren at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (T7UIP)

363 250
If you give up porn for lent, does looking at naked pics count as porn?

Asking for a friend.....

you can only look at things that make you reach for the eye bleach.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (sGtp+)

364 So that was snot on his upper lip at the
Debate?

Its Pretty funny that a common cold takes out the youngest person in the race and the octogenarians just keep going.
Posted by: LASue at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (Ed8Zd)

AIDS.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

365 "Elizabeth Warren@ewarren

Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one."

So a ritual drums, dance and chant? It just might work!

Posted by: Ripley at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (MxEKc)

366 There is, surprisingly, a large amount of open territory to occupy between "Ignore it completely" and "OMG we're all going to die".
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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There you go, using sound judgement again. That has no place in the 21st century.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (xSo9G)

367 >>Because the kinds of questions that will begin to be
asked inside China, once they open that door, could get very
uncomfortable for them very fast.Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (Kpl3J)

Yes. Every policy decision, every social initiative, every economic deep-muscle movement is first (and always) shot through the primary prism of PRC decisionmaking:

"How might this impact Regime Stability?"

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (ZS9TG)

368 There is, surprisingly, a large amount of open territory to occupy between "Ignore it completely" and "OMG we're all going to die".
Posted by: Warai-otoko

**********

Yup.

The best real-life answer to child safety lies somewhere between stashing them in the closet wrapped in bubble wrap versus having them play blindman's bluff in the middle lane of the Jersey Turnpike.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (m45I2)

369 Maybe he's a Bush?
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (T7UIP)

My guess is Kurt hasn't been near a bush in .....

never

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (rpxSz)

370 Amoxicillin. It worked for the most part but the side effects of that drug are pretty rough.

Yeah, that's what they gave me, and it did absolutely nothing. I think it's leprosy.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (T6t7i)

371 Elizabeth Warren announced she's introducing a bill to move all money spent on the wall to instead be spent on Wuhan Flu spending.

Because, you know, securing the border doesn't protect us from outbreaks or anything.

NONE of the Democrats have given any input or ideas on what to do or any sort of leadership on this. Just hysteria and criticism. That's ALL they have offered for a long time now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

The Democrats remind of what happens to charity organizations such as the Red Cross when there is a flood or fire. Instead of finding out what the people affected actually need , people start sending clothes, used furniture, etc, inundating the organization with stuff they can't use or store. When what people actually need is money, gas cards, hot meals served from food trucks, etc.

There is zero reason that Congress can't grant the Trump request for 2.5B funding right now, and then wait to see what is needed, if additional, later as the need comes up.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (vfS9U)

372 340 - rickb223

Exactly...for NorK border guards, "HALT" is shortly followed by a far amount of dakka dakka.

Rocket Man ain't play'n...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (W+kMI)

373 Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one."

smoke signals coming from Warren camp

Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (rpxSz)

374 Michela Musolino is a professional singer and a long-time reader and commenter at AoSHQ

Hello.

What are you wearing ?

Posted by: JT at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (arJlL)

375 >>Yeah, that's what they gave me, and it did absolutely nothing.

Levaquin / leviquin - That stuff will kill everything but you. Though, it will make you wish it killed you.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (T7UIP)

376 "Elizabeth Warren@ewarren

Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one."

So a ritual drums, dance and chant? It just might work!
Posted by: Ripley at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (MxEKc)

Lizzy, you ignorant slut. You've been in congress a long time. What plans have you put to a vote in your career that have successfully HELP Americans?

We'll wait.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

377 Tulsi Gabbard tweeted saying we should suspend flights from Japan and S.Korea.

All international flights. Period.

-
Meanwhile, Tomahawk Lizzie . . .

Elizabeth Warren@ewarren
Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one.

Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Do like North Korea. Suspend international air travel. Close the borders. Shoot border jumpers.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (SMh/7)

378 All of the Dems were ridiculing Trump yesterday for saying that typically, most flu seasons tend to dry up once the weather starts to warm up - but that is measurably true, year after year. It doesn't say that will happen for sure this time, but it does look like the timing of this outbreak is actually remarkably good for us. An October or November outbreak would have been terrible.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Kpl3J)

379 Bernobyl

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (GlWnW)

380 It killed a 34 year old doctor fighting the disease.

Posted by: torabora at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Y274z)

381 "Elizabeth Warren@ewarren

Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one."

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (l3+k2)

382 206 I'm on prescription D, 50000 IU once a week.

Seemed wierd, but it hasn't made me feel sick or anything.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (1ISKN)

------

Your doctor tested your Vitamin D level, and found it was low, correct?

I bet you are feeling a little happier and less depressed lately?

Vitamin D is a wonderful thing. Get some sun, or take a supplement of 2,000 or 5,000. It worked for me.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (+0uDE)

383 I sure hope things stay under control in Europe for another week. I leave next Saturday for Switzerland for a club ski trip and it'd be crushing to have it canceled. It'll be the first time I left the country in over 20 years.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (zqs/f)

384 Warren is in Congress, right? So why doesn't she introduce a bill instead of flapping her jaw about this.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (JKNZq)

385
My guess is Kurt hasn't been near a bush in .....

never
Posted by: REDACTED at February 27, 2020 11:44 AM (rpxSz)

WE'VE GOT BUSH!

Posted by: Booger at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

386 The media downplayed this for over a month. They did the literal opposite of what they would do with nothing burgers in the past. Now the cats out of the bag with close to 50 counties and all continents infected, and they now that they are reporting on it, It's fear porn.

People have been following this for over a month looking at the data, the pictures and video coming out of China, and from there. This is not a hoax. You don't lockdown 760 million people over a hoax and crash your economy over the flu.

And this has nothing to do with Trump. Republicans are almost as bad as the Dems about this viewing it through the lens of Trump.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (P0nip)

387 Stop spreading panic and nonsense.

-
THEY'RE EATING PEOPLE AND BATS IN THE SUPERDOME!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (+y/Ru)

388 It killed a 34 year old doctor fighting the disease.

"it".. Or the Chinese Government?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (6XlcD)

389 379
Bernobyl
Heh.

Posted by: pep at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (T6t7i)

390 Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

LOLGF, cuunt.
Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

Uh, she does realize that if Corona hits Mexico hard, they will be STREAMING over the border at the first sign of a cough, to get FREE US Medical attention? Because we literally cannot turn them away from Emergency Rooms BY LAW?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (NgKpN)

391 380 It killed a 34 year old doctor fighting the disease.
Posted by: torabora at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Y274z)

Was he a smoker?

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (zqs/f)

392 Amoxicillin. It worked for the most part but the side effects of that drug are pretty rough.

Yeah, that's what they gave me, and it did absolutely nothing. I think it's leprosy.
Posted by: pep
------

FWIW, they used Zithromax Z-Pak for me. Cleared things up. Muldoon might be able to offer some thoughts on the distinction between the sundry anti-biotics.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (xSo9G)

393 if nothing else, this whole fiasco illustrates the need for us to start making more of our crap right here in the states -
Seriously, which would you rather buy:

the Latest Apple product "made in the USA" for $12,000

OR

that same Latest Apple product "made in China" for $1159
Posted by: Kdawg at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (lQn8v)

---------

Fixed that for ya. Hey, this moustache don't condition itself...

Posted by: Richard Trumka at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (0n37U)

394 People need to feel like their leaders have the appropriate sense of panic and delusion.

Thank you, Senator Warren, for all you do for America.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (FOGOI)

395 324 Unfortunately you can't trust the news anymore, which sucks in a time like this.

Posted by: Max Power at February 27, 2020 11:38 AM (QCc6B)

@WashTimes

Tennessee lawmakers advance measure to recognize CNN, Washington Post as 'fake news' outlets'

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (cF8AT)

396 I'm on prescription D

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:24 AM (1ISKN)

My wife has to go in for her treatment every day. Sometimes twice a day!

Posted by: Bill Krystol at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (KUaJL)

397 Maybe he's a Bush?
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:37 AM (T7UIP)

My guess is Kurt hasn't been near a bush in .....

never
Posted by: REDACTED

Kurt hasn't had pussy since pussy had him.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (SMh/7)

398 WELL, the media is now wall-to-wall on Coronavirus, impatiently waiting for the first US death.
It's obvious they think they've "got" something.

But I wonder if they would be going 24/7 on this if Trump wanted to talk about this last week.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (CqE5x)

399 And Mayor Pete has cancelled all fundraisers because he has a cold.

Look, I get that it sucks to campaign and do stuff when you have the flu. I get that you want to avoid exposing people to your illness.

But this is the kind of stuff a president cannot and does not do. Bush felt so awful he literally barfed at a state dinner in Japan, but he still went. If you cannot sack up and go deal with your job when you feel icky, you're not the man for the job. I mean, even using man in the most broad and extensive definition of the word.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

400 391 380 It killed a 34 year old doctor fighting the disease.
Posted by: torabora at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Y274z)

Was he a smoker?
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (zqs/f)

he was a smoker
he was a joker
he was a midnight toker

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (Kpl3J)

401 >>Strangely, the Chinese government is not blaming the USA for it, which the USSR would have tried.

They have tried blaming the US already - this from Politico on 2/3.

China has blamed the United States for spreading fears about the
coronavirus and accused Washington of doing nothing to help contain the
outbreak. . . .

Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a written
statement that many countries appreciated China's efforts to contain the
spread of the coronavirus, with the exception of the U.S.

"The U.S. government has not provided any substantial assistance to us,
but it was the first to evacuate personnel from its Consulate in Wuhan,
the first to suggest partial withdrawal of its embassy staff, and the
first to impose a travel ban on Chinese travelers. All it has done could
only create and spread fear, which is a bad example."

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (bDqIh)

402 When COVID-19 makes it to sub-Saharan Africa, it's on, y'all.

It's not going to do well in the heat.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2020

This.

I heard a caller into Rush's show yesterday posit that Vitamin D deficiency increases vulnerability to virus infections. Given that virus infections are less likely in sunny, warm climes (and seasons), there might be something to that. Since those of us in colder climates aren't getting Vit. D production from our skin in "flu season" it would seem that Vit. D supplementation would be a cheap, safe, hedge bet.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (We5+z)

403 >>The media downplayed this for over a month. They did the literal opposite of what they would do with nothing burgers in the past. Now the cats out of the bag with close to 50 counties and all continents infected, and they now that they are reporting on it, It's fear porn.

So.

You are Pro Fear Porn and Anti Real Porn.

Just want to ge this straight.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (T7UIP)

404 Do like North Korea. Suspend international air travel. Close the borders. Shoot border jumpers.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (SMh/7)

and practice for 50 years...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:49 AM (FOGOI)

405 380 It killed a 34 year old doctor fighting the disease.
Posted by: torabora at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Y274z)

Was he a smoker?
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (zqs/f)

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Odds are, he was re-infected a second time.

The first time you get it, your body can fight it. But it depletes certain resources in the process. If you get re-infected a second time soon after, then your body is at a significant disadvantage because it hasn't rebuilt the necessary defenses yet.

Posted by: reason at February 27, 2020 11:49 AM (XiVKO)

406 I'm...I'm afraid to check to see if there is a genre of pron called 'fear porn'.

....and there is, now.

Rule 34

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (l4C/z)

407 Do like North Korea. Suspend international air travel. Close the borders. Shoot border jumpers.

Posted by: rickb223
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That's just racist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (CDGwz)

408 WELL, the media is now wall-to-wall on Coronavirus, impatiently waiting for the first US death.
It's obvious they think they've "got" something.

Lusting is more like it. They've got it bad.

In two to three months we're going to be saying "Corona.. huh?" Or be back to calling it a beer.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (H8QX8)

409 >Tulsi Gabbard tweeted saying we should suspend flights from Japan and S.Korea.

All international flights. Period.

-----

Good. She is 100% correct. That is far from a democrat position. Also it flies in the face of Hawaii who is advocating to make checking passengers from China to be less.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (P0nip)

410 BTW, apparently Chinese don't wash their hands after using the bathroom and it's been reported COVID-19 spreads easily from feces contamination... add to that the hygiene habits of Muslims in Iran, who worked in Milan's garment factories. hmmmm... [think-emoji]

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (zqs/f)

411 Corona Virus turned me into a Newt!

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (T7UIP)

412 400 391 380 It killed a 34 year old doctor fighting the disease.
Posted by: torabora at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (Y274z)

Was he a smoker?
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (zqs/f)

he was a smoker
he was a joker
he was a midnight toker
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (Kpl3J)

How did he get his loving?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (l4C/z)

413 It's obvious they think they've "got" something.

Yeah they think they can Katrina this. Remember until that event, Bush's approval numbers were sky high. They finally found a hole in the armor and burrowed in to destroy him with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

414 Warren is in Congress, right? So why doesn't she introduce a bill instead of flapping her jaw about this.
Posted by: notsothoreau at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM (JKNZq)

Warren probably hasn't seen her office in Congress since the impeachment trial. She's been campaigning since last fall.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (vfS9U)

415 >>Uh, she does realize that if Corona hits Mexico
hard, they will be STREAMING over the border at the first sign of a
cough, Posted by: Romeo13 at February 27, 2020 11:47 AM (NgKpN)

Transborder Industrial Mastic Human Flypaper Array.
Even if it may be too late.
(Envisions a dark, squirming mass of mat-adhered "virals" from Brownsville to San Diego...)

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (ZS9TG)

416 411 Corona Virus turned me into a Newt!
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (T7UIP)

A newt?!?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:51 AM (l4C/z)

417 >>A newt?!?

I got better!

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:51 AM (T7UIP)

418 Tulsi Gabbard tweeted saying we should suspend flights from Japan and S.Korea.

All international flights. Period.

-----

Good. She is 100% correct. That is far from a democrat position. Also it flies in the face of Hawaii who is advocating to make checking passengers from China to be less.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (P0nip)

Japan only has 189 cases, in which most are at least a week old.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:51 AM (zqs/f)

419 CDC recommends you double tap to prevent the spread of the contagion.

Posted by: Bill Krystol at February 27, 2020 11:51 AM (KUaJL)

420 How did he get his loving?

I heard he takes it on the run

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

421 >>410
BTW, apparently Chinese don't wash their hands after using the bathroom
If you believe the instructional signs posted in Jackson Hole, WY, restrooms, they don't know that you *sit* on the toilet, not *squat* on the rim with your feet.
Yes/No.

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (ZS9TG)

422 My suspicion is that Buttgiggity is sick because it allows him to avoid the decision to either go to or to not go to AICPA.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)

423 >>Japan only has 189 cases, in which most are at least a week old.

That's good news. We can still abort them.

Posted by: Democrats and Susan Collins at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (T7UIP)

424 Meanwhile, Tomahawk Lizzie . . .

Elizabeth Warren@ewarren
Donald Trump is bungling our response to the coronavirus. We need a real plan to fight back-and I've got one.

Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

She's running to be VP for Comrade Bernie.

GregGutfeld@greggutfeld
Gross how media hopes for something bad to happen to a country to prove their humiliated idiocies of the past 4 years are finally validated. "The fears may be coming true..." they say hopefully.

-
Quoting Tater.

Hoping for millions of American Deaths to own the Cons!! These people have diseased minds.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (vN4+Q)

425 420 How did he get his loving?

I heard he takes it on the run
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

Well, f*ck me running.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (FOGOI)

426 The first time you get it, your body can fight it. But it depletes certain resources in the process. If you get re-infected a second time soon after, then your body is at a significant disadvantage because it hasn't rebuilt the necessary defenses yet.

If true, would that imply multiple strains? Wouldn't you have antibodies against the same strain if you just got over it?

Anyone know?

Posted by: db at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (jLxx3)

427 Tulsi is dangerous.

Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (l3+k2)

428 @380

If its the same doctor I remember reading about how many straight hours/days had he been working? I seem to remember him being lionized (and truly well deserved) for his dedication. What kind of shape physically was he in before the outbreak hit? Was he a smoker? Was he taking care of himself with necessary food and water while working? Was his working himself to exhaustion making him additionally vulnerable to getting sick?

Yes he was only 34 years old, but there are far more questions than just his age.

This isn't happening in a vacuum.

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (n/0Nw)

429 The first time you get it, your body can fight it. But it depletes certain resources in the process. If you get re-infected a second time soon after, then your body is at a significant disadvantage because it hasn't rebuilt the necessary defenses yet.
Posted by: reason at February 27, 2020 11:49 AM (XiVKO)

Uh, if you can reacquire the disease, how the hell can Immunizing you against said disease work?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 27, 2020 11:53 AM (NgKpN)

430 413 It's obvious they think they've "got" something.

Yeah they think they can Katrina this. Remember until that event, Bush's approval numbers were sky high. They finally found a hole in the armor and burrowed in to destroy him with it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

Remember how Stormy Daniels was going to DESTROY!!!! Trump???

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)

431 Do like North Korea. Suspend international air travel. Close the borders. Shoot border jumpers.�

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2020 11:45 AM (SMh/7)

Only if we also get to shut down media outlets and arrest them.

Posted by: Ha at February 27, 2020 11:53 AM (EsGqq)

432 And Mayor Pete has cancelled all fundraisers because he has a cold.

I understand a sip of penis will cure that right up. It's the new wonder drug.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2020 11:53 AM (SMh/7)

433 406
I'm...I'm afraid to check to see if there is a genre of pron called 'fear porn'.

....and there is, now.

Rule 34

wait... so just tossing around concepts is enough for rule 34 to cause spontaneous generation of porn? as if porn, like virtual particles, were constantly popping into existence from the aether?

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (sGtp+)

434
Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 27, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

I could get behind spending a couple billion on 2000 miles of Coronavirus containment protocols.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 27, 2020 11:43 AM (KUaJL)

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We may need walls on the Northern Border to keep the Canucks fleeing the Canadian Health System for one that works. If anyone will screw it up, Justin Trudeau will.

Right now most of their rail lines nationwide are shutdown by protesters supporting a pipeline protest in BC.

The judges issued an injunction to remove the barricades and blockades. Justin and his RCMP refuse to act.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (+0uDE)

435 >>Yeah they think they can Katrina this. Remember until that event, Bush's approval numbers were sky high. They finally found a hole in the armor and burrowed in to destroy him with it.

So you are saying this is the chink in Trup's armour.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (T7UIP)

436 Just want to ge this straight.
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:48 AM (T7UIP)

I'm pro looking out for the health and interests of America and Americans first.

Go be a unserious clown to other posters. You are good at that.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (P0nip)

437 Sooo, I don't have to worry about paying my taxes in April, right? We're going full Thunderdome any minute? Because my new black speedos look really snazzy with the studded chest harness and circa 1980 goalie mask, and I'm tired of the looks I get wearing them to the store.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (Wm5SB)

438 >>427
Tulsi is dangerous. Posted by: davidt at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (l3+k2)

Tulsi is a man.
A pickle is a meat.

Posted by: Zod at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (qXNVo)

439 All of the Dems were ridiculing Trump yesterday for
saying that typically, most flu seasons tend to dry up once the weather
starts to warm up - but that is measurably true, year after year. It
doesn't say that will happen for sure this time, but it does look like
the timing of this outbreak is actually remarkably good for us. An
October or November outbreak would have been terrible.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:46 AM

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The head of the CDC backed up Trump on that very subject at yesterdays presser.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (JUOKG)

440 Wait, am I dead or not? If I am I'm gonna need to lie down.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (Orx/W)

441 >>I'm pro looking out for the health and interests of America and Americans first.

You are a loon.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (T7UIP)

442 In fairness to Psychohantus, she spent time recently with unfunny Colbert, one of the more annoying retards with an audience of clapping seals.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (y7DUB)

443 >>
Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is
spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the
coronavirus. #CNNTownHall

A lot of the same people have been saying CLIMATE CHANGE WILL LITERALLY KILL US IN 12 YEARS.

How can we take them seriously?
Also, wouldn't they welcome this given that wiping out millions in a pandemic might get our carbon emissions back in check?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

444 413 It's obvious they think they've "got" something.

Yeah they think they can Katrina this. Remember until that event, Bush's approval numbers were sky high. They finally found a hole in the armor and burrowed in to destroy him with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

And had Bush fought back as hard as Trump does, that may not have happened. Except for his actions on 9/11, Bush was a weakling.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (vN4+Q)

445 439 The head of the CDC backed up Trump on that very subject at yesterdays presser.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (JUOKG)

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That's because the Deep State is full of Trump cronies.

Duh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (zZbCU)

446 Issue with making this Bush's Katrina is that Trump doesn't sit back and take it while getting Ned Beatty'd.

The left and the MSM hasn't learned a damned thing...

Trump isn't going to roll over.

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:56 AM (n/0Nw)

447 So you are saying this is the chink in Trump's armour.
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (T7UIP)

those damned chinks, they're always up to something!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:56 AM (Kpl3J)

448 Michela Mulsolino is bellisima!

I work in a hospital and most of my day is spent not only with preparedness actions and education but mostly trying to calm people down who are getting anxious and spreading rumors. Ugh.

Posted by: Cheri at February 27, 2020 11:56 AM (oiNtH)

449 433 406
I'm...I'm afraid to check to see if there is a genre of pron called 'fear porn'.

....and there is, now.

Rule 34

wait... so just tossing around concepts is enough for rule 34 to cause spontaneous generation of porn? as if porn, like virtual particles, were constantly popping into existence from the aether?
Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2020 11:54 AM (sGtp+)

It's all very Quantum

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 27, 2020 11:56 AM (l4C/z)

450 If true, would that imply multiple strains? Wouldn't you have antibodies against the same strain if you just got over it?

Yeah, supposedly the rumor is that it can re-infect you, somehow. Probably not so much a reinfection as dormant in your body, then comes back. But I can't see how that mechanism works unless it mutates or something, since your body builds up antibodies specifically to attack that infection.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (KZzsI)

451 Warren is in San Antonio, Texas today, weirdly, with Julian Castro.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (xSo9G)

452 Muldoon might be able to offer some thoughts on the distinction between the sundry anti-biotics.

********

I could, but don't really see the point. Suffice it to say that there is a lot of misinformation about use of antibiotics not only here at this blog, but within the medical community as well.

As CBD pointed out in the post "...the mixed blessings of the information age..."

There aren't enough pixels in the universe for me to push back against that. A contributing element to my retirement by the way.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (m45I2)

453 The problem in China is that masks are rationed to 2 per day in hospitals for health providers.

Why does this matter? Moisture (that you create by just breathing) limits a mask's effectiveness to about a half an hour.

The other BIG problem...Chinese medical professionals are remarkably ignorant of basic microbiology, AND the Chinese don't do soap. Personal sanitation that we do reflexively is nearly an alien concept in China.

And NO, I'm not exaggerating.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (W+kMI)

454 BTW, apparently Chinese don't wash their hands after using the bathroom
If you believe the instructional signs posted in Jackson Hole, WY, restrooms, they don't know that you *sit* on the toilet, not *squat* on the rim with your feet.

Ever seen Napoleon's Footprints? A hole in the floor with a couple places to put your feet. Used to be somewhat common in Europe.

Yeah, I remember a banquet in a somewhat expensive Chinese (in China) restaurant, the dining room had its own bathroom. I was advised to make sure the bathroom door was closed after using it, as the toilet didn't have a trap. Yeah, close the nose.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (8erNz)

455 Warren is in San Antonio, Texas today, weirdly, with Julian Castro.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (xSo9G)

Winds out of the south in Texas DID bring a strange smell this morning.....

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

456 And had Bush fought back as hard as Trump does, that may not have happened. Except for his actions on 9/11, Bush was a weakling.

His "great job Brownie" thing didn't help any, either. Bush was pretty much a nonentity in his second term anyway, I don't understand what the hell he was doing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (KZzsI)

457 There's a new variant of the Coronavirus adding the screaming shits to the long list of symptoms.

It's called the Cuervovirus.

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (2Mnv1)

458
His "great job Brownie" thing didn't help any, either. Bush was pretty much a nonentity in his second term anyway, I don't understand what the hell he was doing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (KZzsI)

Neither did he.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (Zz0t1)

459 Michela Mulsolino is bellisima!

Beautiful too !

Posted by: JT at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (arJlL)

460 442 In fairness to Psychohantus, she spent time recently with unfunny Colbert, one of the more annoying retards with an audience of clapping seals.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (y7DUB)

Anecdotally, people I hang out with who used to luurrrrrve them some Colbert on the Colbert Report, are totally bored and jaded with the guy now.

They hate Trump, sure, but that means they don't want to think about Trump. They want to laugh and be amused. They're tuning out of the 24-Hours' Hate the clapter industry has created because it's just not funny. It's unhealthy.

It's kinda neat, actually.

Humans. Being humans. Following their nature.

You know... like how conservatives always say they do.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (FOGOI)

461 Warren is in San Antonio, Texas today, weirdly, with Julian Castro.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Kinky

Posted by: Bruce at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (I0M6O)

462 @FINALLEVEL

Straight Men: This is not OK... Just sayin..

https://tinyurl.com/rfwhmuv

I'm starting to root for the virus....

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (cF8AT)

463 >>I could, but don't really see the point. Suffice it to say that there is a lot of misinformation about use of antibiotics not only here at this blog, but within the medical community as well.

Can you at least reming my how to spell ?levaquin?

(That stuff was rough. Knocked the lung infection right outta me...but, wow. My hair hurt.

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 11:59 AM (T7UIP)

464 And had Bush fought back as hard as Trump does, that may not have happened. Except for his actions on 9/11, Bush was a weakling.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 27, 2020 11:55 AM (vN4+Q)

That pudgy turd, Rove, always advised against firing back.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2020 11:59 AM (y7DUB)

465 If its the same doctor I remember reading about how many straight hours/days had he been working? I seem to remember him being lionized (and truly well deserved) for his dedication. What kind of shape physically was he in before the outbreak hit? Was he a smoker? Was he taking care of himself with necessary food and water while working? Was his working himself to exhaustion making him additionally vulnerable to getting sick?

Yes he was only 34 years old, but there are far more questions than just his age.

This isn't happening in a vacuum.

Posted by: H Badger at February 27, 2020 11:52 AM (n/0Nw)

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Working in a bio hazard suit for how many hours a day?

Each breath is a labor as you draw air through a filter. You are hungry and dehydrated, because with the shortage of bio suits, you wear it for twelve hours or more, because when you take it off, you destroy it and have to use a new one.

Yes, I would say they are are all tired and not 100% healthty.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:59 AM (+0uDE)

466 Feline Infectious Peritonitis is another type of corona virus that just pops up randomly in normally healthy cats. So far it's incurable and 100% fatal.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 27, 2020 11:59 AM (1ISKN)

467 If you believe the instructional signs posted in Jackson Hole, WY, restrooms, they don't know that you *sit* on the toilet, not *squat* on the rim with your feet.

Japan is the same way, their toilets that aren't some kind of absurdly over-teched throne are set into the ground and you squat over them. The idea of sitting on a seat of ease is not culturally familiar.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 27, 2020 11:59 AM (KZzsI)

468
Straight Men: This is not OK... Just sayin..

https://tinyurl.com/rfwhmuv

I'm starting to root for the virus....
Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (cF8AT)

That is not OK for any male over the age of 2.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)

469 Warren is in San Antonio, Texas today, weirdly, with Julian Castro.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

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Hopefully the flocks of pigeons down at the riverwalk will view her as a dry crust of bread and peck her eyes out.

A man can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 27, 2020 12:00 PM (Y4EXg)

470 Japan only has 189 cases, in which most are at least a week old.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 11:51 AM (zqs/f)

You can't have cases if you don't test for it. South Korea is testing with over 55k tests given. Our country is less than 445. I'd like for Japan to release the number of tests issued. Also 14-24 day asymptomatic incubation period. This is beginning to accelerate almost exactly 4 weeks after Wuhan was shut down, so right on schedule.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 27, 2020 12:00 PM (P5k1D)

471 451 Warren is in San Antonio, Texas today, weirdly, with Julian Castro.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM (xSo9G)

Even though little Julian is from San Antonio, I found out recently that he is far more popular in California than he is in Texas. In fact outside of San Antonio, not many people in Texas even know who he is, other than some sawed off little cabana boy who shows up in national news every now and then. He's never held any statewide office, and no one has ever voted for him except for Mexicans.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 12:00 PM (Kpl3J)

472 Michela. I rest my case.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 27, 2020 12:00 PM (Orx/W)

473 NOOD.

And I shocked the WORLD.

Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

474 The problem in China is that masks are rationed to 2 per day in hospitals for health providers.

Why does this matter? Moisture (that you create by just breathing) limits a mask's effectiveness to about a half an hour.

The other BIG problem...Chinese medical professionals are remarkably
ignorant of basic microbiology, AND the Chinese don't do soap. Personal
sanitation that we do reflexively is nearly an alien concept in China.

And NO, I'm not exaggerating.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at February 27, 2020 11:57 AM

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It ain't just China. With the exception of Japan the remaining Asian Countries are notoriously bad at personal hygiene. I have been to nearly every single Country there and haven't spotted a bar of soap in a bathroom outside of a Western type of hotel.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 27, 2020 12:01 PM (JUOKG)

475 >>You can't have cases if you don't test for it. South Korea is testing with over 55k tests given. Our country is less than 445.

Everyone should be Tested!

Tested. Then Re-Tested!

It's the only way to keep us safe....

WHARGARBL!

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 12:01 PM (T7UIP)

476 >>BTW, apparently Chinese don't wash their hands after using the bathroom

If you believe the instructional signs posted in Jackson Hole, WY,
restrooms, they don't know that you *sit* on the toilet, not *squat* on
the rim with your feet.

Ugh, I remember those bathrooms from trips to Taiwan and Thailand.
Also sometimes in Taiwan they would have trashcans in the stalls because the plumbing couldn't handle toilet paper (which was more like little single-serve squares of tp). Ick.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 12:02 PM (bDqIh)

477 >>Humans. Being humans. Following their nature. Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (FOGOI)

Why, why? Tell 'em that it's human nature.

Posted by: Zod Jackson at February 27, 2020 12:02 PM (ZS9TG)

478 Remember how Stormy Daniels was going to DESTROY!!!! Trump???
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Yeah, yeah...I remember that. It seems...it seems...so long ago. Good days, good days.

Posted by: Michael Avenatti, Prisoner No. 11032 at February 27, 2020 12:02 PM (xSo9G)

479 The left/media is taking a huge gamble on the Coronovirus.

they are building it up as essentially "the next black plague" and already arguing that the Trump admin fumbled the ball and hasn't done enough to combat the virus and is incompetent.
For this strategy to work, there has to be a huge outbreak and chaos and lost of death. If that doesn't happen, the left/media just handed Trump a huge win, b/c he can point to their alarmism and say "see, my admin kept you safe from the black plague". Of course, at that point the left/media will try to downplay the coronovirus and say it was never really a threat and the Trump admin didn't really do anything - but they won't be able to get away with it, they've already set the stage.
So, their gamble is the hope that this turns into a really bad pandemic in the U.S. If it doesn't, they've given Trump a huge PR win.

Posted by: pantsomime at February 27, 2020 12:02 PM (ky+MF)

480 The stock market will now have a nice upward trend towards election day once the panic selling stops.

If the stock market were doing this "on it's own" I would be worried. Corona though is a perfect foil and also plays into Trump's anti-globalism message of borders and restricted trade.

You really want Bernie Sanders at the wheel in the middle of all of this? The guy that couldn't cut it at a commie commune?

Posted by: Blago at February 27, 2020 12:02 PM (sjTfF)

481 My gut still says that it's not nearly as infectious as flu, because if it were, we'd be seeing millions of cases by now, not thousands.

I think it is unlikely to spread efficiently anywhere the population density is lower than that of China (or a similarly crowded environment, for example, that cruise ship).

It's still a good idea to avoid crowds if possible, and postpone any travel in those airborne disease-spreading chambers we call "airplanes".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 27, 2020 12:02 PM (lbYzk)

482 Democrats would intentionally get coronavirus themselves, and spread it to the public, if they thought it would help politically. They are on the side against humanity.

Posted by: Chris M at February 27, 2020 12:03 PM (eAZVt)

483 Anecdotally, people I hang out with who used to luurrrrrve them some Colbert on the Colbert Report, are totally bored and jaded with the guy now.

I was never a cable subscriber so I only know things like this second hand, but didn't he follow Jon Stewart's temporary wildly popular fake news show? Product placement; how does it work?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2020 12:03 PM (y7DUB)

484 Credible Reports say that CoronaVirus is uploading underaged rape porn to PorHub, Guys!

This is Serious!

Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2020 12:05 PM (T7UIP)

485 > With the exception of Japan the remaining Asian Countries are notoriously bad at personal hygiene.

Definitely an exception. Their toilets will not only wipe and wash your ass, they'll give you a prostate massage, check your blood pressure, and give you a horoscope.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 27, 2020 12:05 PM (lbYzk)

486 There's a new variant of the Coronavirus adding the screaming shits to the long list of symptoms.

It's called the Cuervovirus.
Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM (2Mnv1)

Official name..

TECATE-19

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 27, 2020 12:05 PM (zqs/f)

487 >>So, their gamble is the hope that this turns into a really bad pandemic
in the U.S. If it doesn't, they've given Trump a huge PR win.

Yup, it's all about positioning. Start the "Trump failed to protect us" narrative from the get-go so if/when it hits they can blame him, whether it's 10 deaths or 100K.

Worse are those who are trying to make it happen, such as the State Dept. guy in Japan sending infected US cruise ship vacationers home against Trump's directive.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 12:05 PM (bDqIh)

488 I make-y serum flrum mly blrood. Make-y allr number one super happy cure.

You like-y cure?

Posted by: Dear Leader WhoaFat, DPROK at February 27, 2020 12:07 PM (gmo/4)

489 My suspicion is that Buttgiggity is sick because it allows him to avoid the decision to either go to or to not go to AICPA.
=====

My cynical take is that he using his 'cold' to wait out the blowback from the little kid asking his advice for 'coming out'.

And find out from the GLAAD Bagmen if they planted the poor kid. Creepy Pete Perfect does nothing without a Plan.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 27, 2020 12:08 PM (MIKMs)

490 >>It's still a good idea to avoid crowds if possible, and postpone any
travel in those airborne disease-spreading chambers we call "airplanes".

That sounds calm and reasonable.

How dare you not use the possible pandemic to stump for your favorite pet issue like border security, climate change, racism, etc.?!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2020 12:08 PM (bDqIh)

491 I don't think I'm over-reacting. I did go to WalMart and buy some stuff in bulk because you know what? WalMart makes me twitchy on the best of days. Grocery stores are crowded, often with people and their sick kids after work and school.

I don't think that anything is likely to shut down. It's not impossible that it will, but not likely. But I still want to be able to avoid places that involve too much closeness and breathing each others air if we reach a point where that seems wise.

We DO live differently than Asia. We normally have more space between us. If I had to take public transportation to commute, I'd stop. Or have people wear the masks on the train and bus. Why not? (provided they're available) People who are sick and don't know it would have far less chance of infecting others that way.

And wash your hands with soap!

I don't think that's over-reaction or panic.

Posted by: Synova at February 27, 2020 12:11 PM (BD/yx)

492
Rush said yesterday they've determined that the way to PREVENT the flu is high amounts of vitamin D.

There are vitamin D deficiencies around the world because of the
overhyping of sun exposure and cancer and everyone using SPF1000
sunscreen.

Whether it really means to or not, your government betters are out to kill you.
Posted by: Sponge at February 27, 2020 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

Nope, Rush said he couldn't prescribe and cut the guy off.

Anyhow, corna is closer to a cold than influenza.

don't get me wrong, D is a good vitamin, but you should rely on washing your hands and covering your cough

Posted by: Kindltot at February 27, 2020 12:11 PM (6rS3m)

493
There's a new variant of the Coronavirus adding the screaming shits to the long list of symptoms.
It's called the Cuervovirus.
Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2020 11:58 AM

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Serious Note. Coronavirus is also spread via the fecal-oral route, just like Norovirus and a dozen other diseases.

Keep that in mind when consuming fast food.

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 12:12 PM (+0uDE)

494 I don't think that's over-reaction or panic.

Posted by: Synova at February 27, 2020 12:11 PM (BD/yx)

It isn't. It is calm, measured preparation.

Posted by: db at February 27, 2020 12:13 PM (jLxx3)

495 > I don't think that's over-reaction or panic

Seems completely reasonable to me.

I've also reminded all of my older relatives to get their prescription supplies topped up (to the extent that insurance allows them to do that), in the event that supplies from China continue to be disrupted.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 27, 2020 12:15 PM (lbYzk)

496 Sucks to be them, but the best information about COV19 seems to be from the SK outbreak at Daegu, folks on the Cruise Ship of Doom, and Italy. Anything coming out of China is suspect.

Deaths in Italy, the Cruise Ship people, and South Korea, all demonstrate deaths are predominately among the elderly with pre existing conditions.

What is not being reported in open media is tracking how many are being admitted to hospital ICU's for complications and their demographics. At least some of the patients in ICU appear to be younger.

The Japanese media reporting on a case has a misleading headline about reinfection. Instead, what apparently happened in her case was a relapse which happens in viral cases. That does not mean that people do not build immunity to corona virus as some of the more hysterical media reporting has indicated.

Thus, if we consider this as "super flu", it might be a bit more accurate. If you have loved ones or friends that are elderly, NOW is the time to help them prepare for a lengthy staycation at home. I would try to upschedule any pending doctor or hospital appointments etc. before outbreaks make that perilous. Make sure that they have at least 90 day supplies of critical medication, accessible food, and so on. Setup some means of alternative face time via technology that you can communicate with them and have them see their grandkids, etc. now rather than later.

Talk with any nursing home or similar facility if you have loved ones in there and what are going to be their protocols regarding visitors, etc. These places are similar to a cruise ship where a large number of vulnerable people are crowded into a small area with problems of hygiene etc.

If you are immuno suppressed, similar isolation preparation features may be necessary.

If you are a health care worker, I would regard y'all at similar risk if you work among the general hospital or general treatment areas.

Health care workers are at risk for a) stress from overwork lowers viral defenses, b) some patients may have very high viral loads and the dose makes the poison, and c) breaches in protective gear, hygiene, and exposure to bodily fluids/products are a risk and d) time spent around sick people. For good reasons, if you are a health care worker, you will probably need to curtail a lot of outside activities as you are a potential vector of infection.

Fortunately, at this time, we apparently know enough that most children are at slight risk as it appears young adults are absent any specific risk factors such as immuno suppressed. In older adults, as the age creeps up with complicating health factors, then risk does as well. Assess your risk factors and act accordingly.

My personal guess is that the death toll in the West will be lower than China with an uncertain prediction about longterm contributors to health problems. However, even a 1% death rate would be fairly massive if 60-70 percent of the 330 million or so US population gets infected would be about 2 million people of which a lot would be elderly and in poor health. If you have a loved one in that condition, visit them now and tell them that you love them.

Long term, this will have little to no impact on the economy other than perhaps causing reevaluations of risk and supply chains.

The Spanish Flu deaths did little to stop the boom in the 20's and given that production facilities and the young are not the most affected, I doubt it will be like the Black Death.

Posted by: whig at February 27, 2020 12:19 PM (EUDB2)

497 Oh, one of the workers at WalMart last night was wearing a proper mask. Only the one guy. I wonder if he had a cough or something.

Even the completely useless dust masks in the Home section were out of stock.

I checked.

Posted by: Synova at February 27, 2020 12:19 PM (BD/yx)

498 Tanking the Trump economy via a fake virus scare is the least of what the Dimmedia are now hoping for. I fear they are plotting things far worse for 2020..

Posted by: MarjBaldwin at February 27, 2020 12:24 PM (C3tIt)

499 CBD illustrates the essential contradiction of multiculturalism.
All cultures are supposedly of equal value, in all aspects, with none superior in any respect.
Yet we are in desparate need of mass-infusion from other cultures, now and always, so as reap the benefits of all that "vibrancy."

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 27, 2020 12:28 PM (koNhm)

500 @493
"Serious Note. Coronavirus is also spread via the fecal-oral route, just like Norovirus and a dozen other diseases.

Keep that in mind when consuming fast food."

That's it. No more Sammy's Shit Sandwiches for me.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 27, 2020 12:30 PM (koNhm)

501 Most victims had significant comorbidities and were 60+ years old.

Posted by: Don at February 27, 2020 12:32 PM (T/Cln)

502 I can think of a potential reason - the Chinese
govm't would not want to say ANYTHING which could suggest that they
think this was a manufactured virus, and not a naturally occurring and
unforeseeable outbreak. Because the kinds of questions that will begin
to be asked inside China, once they open that door, could get very
uncomfortable for them very fast.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 27, 2020 11:40 AM (Kpl3J)

I still think it was a test-bed for some gene splicing. It seems to have features of fairly prominent viruses, is very infectious and not insanely virulent. All could indicate that for study they wanted to play with sequences and have ease of transmission, prominent symptoms to show what it could be possible to do.

And, if some lab tech had in his mind "not death virus" it would be easier to make the mistake of selling off used lab animals.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 27, 2020 12:33 PM (6rS3m)

503 "What happens to the car production when lets say the Ignition wiring is not available, because the factory in China is still shut down?"

Posted by: rd at February 27, 2020 11:22 AM (+0uDE)

Last I'd heard, car manufacturers are producing more vehicles than they can sell, so all they have to do to keep their workers fully employed is to have them disassemble the cars that are sitting on a back lot somewhere, rotting in the sun, and then reassemble them into "new" vehicles.

Posted by: Razell at February 27, 2020 12:43 PM (q47/M)

504 Tomorrow, I'm introducing a plan that takes every dime Donald Trump is spending on his racist wall, and diverting it to fighting the coronavirus. #CNNTownHall
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Building the wall IS fighting the coronavirus. They used to quarantine people on Ellis Island for a good reason.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 27, 2020 01:32 PM (prSvo)

505 Saw a list of people who died in Italy. They were in the 60s & 80s. The younger ones had other physical problems.

Posted by: MHK at February 27, 2020 02:33 PM (iQIUe)

506 Italy 7 deaths as of today:

77 years old hospitalized for previous pathologies
77 years old, previous pathologies
68 years old cancer
84 years old, severely sick
88 years
80 years, hospitalized for heart attack
62 years old on dialysis

Posted by: MHK at February 27, 2020 02:35 PM (iQIUe)

507 WE all hope and pray you are right, but those of us who don't like operating without a net are wondering, "Where will you be if you are wrong?"

Posted by: obsidian at February 28, 2020 10:23 AM (7+yqP)

508 medical education https://www.emedevents.com/attendee-profile/jay-kim-2

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