Despite No Income Tax, Tennessee Is Drowning In A Growing Budget Surplus
[BUCK THROCKMORTON]

Tennessee has a budget problem - tax revenue is gushing in ahead of all budget predictions. This is “despite” Tennessee having no state income tax.

January tax collections drive Tennessee budget surplus higher

Another month and more surplus tax money is flooding into Tennessee government coffers — an additional $129.4 million in January, or almost 12% more than anticipated, according to Gov. Bill Lee's administration.

“During January, total tax collections came to $1.55 billion, due primarily to strong growth in state sales taxes and corporate taxes, according to state Finance Commissioner Stuart McWhorter.

It was "driven by solid performances in retail and manufacturing sales," McWhorter noted.

Oh, by the way, manufacturing jobs are flooding into the state. This is despite the grave dances performed by Globalist RINOs and Principled Free Traders back when Mr. You-Didn’t-Build-That had his regulators’ feet on the throat of businesses trying to employ deplorable Americans and engage in domestic manufacturing.

"The economic growth we have experienced in these first six months puts the state in a good position to fund the current and upcoming fiscal years," McWhorter said, noting year-to-date total tax collections are outpacing estimates by 6.48%, which the commissioner said "signals a promising finish" for the 2020 fiscal year.

To keep Tennessee from drowning in excess tax revenue, legislators are working on ways to – no, not spend it – they’re actually working on how to return some of it to taxpayers.

Amid a Tennessee budget surplus, Hazlewood, Carter pursue separate approaches on food-tax holidays

With Tennessee government rolling in the dough with general budget surpluses now pegged at $750 million, two Hamilton County legislators have competing ideas on how to return some of the money to the public. Both House Finance Vice Chair Patsy Hazlewood (R) and Rep. Mike Carter (R) are focusing on doing that through grocery-food sales tax holidays. Meanwhile, Carter is working on legislation that would create a mechanism that returns not only much of this year's budget surplus to consumers in the form of lower food taxes but also does the same in future years when revenues gallop past state estimates.

Tennessee’s excess tax revenue situation is also despite having very low property taxes compared to the rest of the country. Rankings of state property taxes place Tennessee at around 13th or 14th lowest among the 50 states.

Strangely enough, neighboring Georgia is struggling to find the money necessary to cut its state income tax rate from 5.75% all the way down to 5.50%. The chair of Georgia’s Senate Finance Committee just can’t make the numbers work.

Senate finance chairman says he doesn’t 'see the math' for tax cut

“I don’t see the math there right now without some changes to the budget to do it,” state Sen. Chuck Hufstetler, a Rome Republican who chairs the Senate Finance Committee, told a crowd gathered Friday at the Georgia Freight Depot for Georgia Budget and Policy Institute conference.

Tennessee’s budget windfall is a real puzzler. Tennessee has zero income tax, low property taxes, nominal energy production, no sea ports, and it’s located in a backwards part of the country despised by all the best people.

I blame global warming.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:51 PM




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1 Ain't no place I'd rather be.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 12:51 PM (qoXoX)

2 First?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 12:51 PM (7Dv7r)

3 Well played Garrett

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (7Dv7r)

4 Rainy day fund, tax rebate, cut a check for taxpayers...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (RD7QR)

5 Hola

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (dp6+w)

6 Tennessee is also getting a huge influx of Muslims.

So that should start siphoning off some of that surplus in no time.

Posted by: RKae at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (alyZu)

7 Just imagine how much more money they'd be collecting with income tax!

-Liberals

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (OJXf7)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

9 I blame the Opry.

Posted by: henry at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (JMDly)

10 Gavin Newsom writes prescription that all budget surpluses by other states be given to California.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (wc1vX)

11 There should be no such thing as a budget surplus in Government. Any overages or positives should be RETURNED TO THE TAXPAYERS.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

12 Failfornia is drowning in debt while Gov. Newscum brags of a record surplus.

Posted by: torabora at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (UVds0)

13 I've got the Cure for your problem, Tennessee!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (Ydn2k)

14 Cumberland Wage Gap

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (7Dv7r)

15 Maybe they can do something about Memphis being such a shithole.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (Di977)

16 Tn. has a healthy sales tax.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (X/Pw5)

17 Willowed: It's kinda funny, when you think about it. The way the Lefty billionaires are all in for socialism will make them first against the wall no matter whose revolution comes.

Are they just suicidal? Have fantasies of mobs with torches and pitchforks storming their estates?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (J+mig)

18 Illinois appears in Nashville, by the State House, with a cardboard sign and tin cup. " Sign says " Anything Helps. God Bless".

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (90T4r)

19 11 There should be no such thing as a budget surplus in Government. Any overages or positives should be RETURNED TO THE TAXPAYERS.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

Governments use cash flow accounting so they could use the money to pay down debt or address pension liabilities.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (qexAi)

20 "The books are balanced on the backs of welfare recipients who are not receiving their fair share!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 24, 2020 12:55 PM (RIAR/)

21 Thanks to Barry's economy

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 24, 2020 12:55 PM (jsWA8)

22 nice, if only there was some way to figure out what was causing this...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 24, 2020 12:55 PM (8D42x)

23 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 12:55 PM (NWiLs)

24 Pure luck.

But, I figured JackStraw will appreciate it

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 12:55 PM (qoXoX)

25 INSOM!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

26 So is Buck Throckmorton actually an Ace sock?
Just curious.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (Uu+Jp)

27 Always wanted to visit Bristol, mainly to see that crazy race track there. Half mile and really high banks. It would be interesting to compare and contrast Bristol in a few years. It's a 'border' city with the state lines of VA and TN running through the middle. VA is now commie and TN isn't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (vN4+Q)

28 And they loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (CLteG)

29 I blame global warming.
Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:51 PM
+++++++++++++
On this note, I was just subjected to a YouTube ad for Bloomberg. He wants my vote so that he can help "End the War on Science."

Bah.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (I2dne)

30 Governments use cash flow accounting so they could use the money to pay down debt or address pension liabilities.
Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (qexAi)


That should already be part of the budget....

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

31 1 Ain't no place I'd rather be.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 12:51 PM (qoXoX)

Right here, right now?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (NWiLs)

32 Does Tennessee still have open container?

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

33 Willowed: It's kinda funny, when you think about it. The way the Lefty billionaires are all in for socialism will make them first against the wall no matter whose revolution comes.

Are they just suicidal? Have fantasies of mobs with torches and pitchforks storming their estates?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (J+mig)

they always imagine THEY are the ones on top directing the proles and deciding which of US are going against the wall.

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (8D42x)

34 26 So is Buck Throckmorton actually an Ace sock?
Just curious.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (Uu+Jp)


He's the Richard Bachman of blogging.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (90T4r)

35 >>Right here, right now?


Jesus, Jones.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (qoXoX)

36 Words we'll never hear from politicians: "Let's return the surplus to those who paid in!"

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (Jv+hH)

37 IDC

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (rpxSz)

38 Georgia and Tennessee are frenemies over water. Georgia tried to expand its state line into TN to get access to the TN river. Thought it was going to get sporty for a while.

Posted by: Jmel at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (FgC0B)

39 Gavin Newsom writes prescription that all budget surpluses by other states be given to California.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2020 12:53 PM (wc1vX)
++++++++++++
I support this fully. After all, the true philosophical basis of socialism is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

It is clear that Tennessee has the ability, and California has the need.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (I2dne)

40 Right here, right now?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (NWiLs)


Yeah, thanks for the earworm......

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

41 Tennessee is the fishing capitol of the world.

Main export is Zinc.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (Qf83p)

42 Yeah but Tennessee still has Memphis.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (2DOZq)

43 Its never time for a tax cut for most politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)

44 Protip. Don't drive through Nashville. Just don't.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (90T4r)

45 6 Tennessee is also getting a huge influx of Muslims.

Posted by: RKae at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (alyZu)

Are they? Hmm. TN is on our list of possible places to retire to.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (Ez6QX)

46 Is there nothing that President Putin can't do?

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (Jv+hH)

47 How do you return sales taxes?

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (Qf83p)

48 35 >>Right here, right now?


Jesus, Jones.
Posted by: garrett



My favorite ear worm. It's a catchy tune.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (vN4+Q)

49 Exactly how much barbecue sauce does Tennessee export?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (Uu+Jp)

50 Tn. has a healthy sales tax.
Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (X/Pw5)
+++++++++++++
It does, but not as bad as I feared. Where my folks live (East TN), their tax rates - state and local - come to ~9.5%. This is significant and quite high, but there are no income taxes on earned income or Social Security. Compare to, say, Littleton, CO. Littleton (depending on specific sub-area) has sales taxes north of 8%, and the state still takes a 4.7% income tax.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (I2dne)

51 48 35 >>Right here, right now?


Jesus, Jones.
Posted by: garrett


My favorite ear worm. It's a catchy tune.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (vN4+Q)

Good album all the way through. Some of my favorite driving music for long trips.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (NWiLs)

52 30 Governments use cash flow accounting so they could use the money to pay down debt or address pension liabilities.
Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (qexAi)

That should already be part of the budget....

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

Only the interest (cash out) or need for additional funding is part of the budget.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (qexAi)

53 6 Tennessee is also getting a huge influx of Muslims.

So that should start siphoning off some of that surplus in no time.
Posted by: RKae at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (alyZu)

They'll start paying the price for that very soon, if they haven't already.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (H8QX8)

54 38 Georgia and Tennessee are frenemies over water.
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Same with Georgia and Alabama.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (sWM8x)

55 California has the Central Valley the greatest breadbasket in the world, Hollywood and Silicon Valley.

Tennessee has bourbon, Vanderbilt health (Nashville's biggest employer), BBQ and a few car factories.

Guess who's winning the battle of fiscal sanity?

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (qAyxA)

56 In my own little neighborhood, older people are attempting to cash out and move to TN and KY because of the more reasonable tax structure. Right now, five houses in my little area are for sale -- two are flippers, one is having medical issues (a young couple) and the other two are sick of the tax ratchet. A small mortgage (<20k) is overwhelmed by the $600/mo for property tax alone.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (MIKMs)

57 Aerosol fentanyl. Nice.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at February 24, 2020 12:59 PM (Jj+59)

58 Willowed: It's kinda funny, when you think about it. The way the Lefty billionaires are all in for socialism will make them first against the wall no matter whose revolution comes.

Are they just suicidal? Have fantasies of mobs with torches and pitchforks storming their estates?

-
I'm guessing that they think that they are immunizing themselves from the fate that awaits fhe unwoke.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 24, 2020 01:00 PM (+y/Ru)

59 is Tennessee's grocery tax progressive? Are there weigh ins?

Posted by: x at February 24, 2020 01:00 PM (nFwvY)

60 45 6 Tennessee is also getting a huge influx of Muslims.

Posted by: RKae at February 24, 2020 12:52 PM (alyZu)

Are they? Hmm. TN is on our list of possible places to retire to.
Posted by: Jordan61 at February 24, 2020 12:58 PM (Ez6QX)

Go off main roads into some of the side streets of Nashville, and you get a surreal landscape of signs in Arabic, Spanish and Ebonics. Often in the same block.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:00 PM (90T4r)

61 58, That is exactly what the billionaires are doing. Same as during the middle ages and the sale of indulgences.

Posted by: whig at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (EUDB2)

62 They should spend some money on Ashley Judd's Puffy Skamper, not to mention her face.

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (Jj+59)

63 I regret building in Ohio.
After a projected surplus DeWine decided to raise fuel tax to pay for the roads and use the surplus to create a new drug task force. Sad. I hate Ohio. Mostly.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (DB16e)

64 42 Yeah but Tennessee still has Memphis.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth



Sell it to Arkansas? I-55 from the Missouri border to Memphis has got to be the flattest interstate I've ever driven on and I've driven through Illinois a few times.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (vN4+Q)

65
grocery-food sales tax holidays

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What? Tennessee currently taxes groceries? Who does that? Not even in California.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (VNdB4)

66 Willowed: It's kinda funny, when you think about it. The way the Lefty billionaires are all in for socialism will make them first against the wall no matter whose revolution comes.

It would be kind of refreshing to see a good old-fashioned billionaire with a top hat and monocle.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (Uu+Jp)

67 Ashley Judd is from Kentucky. Kentucky is wonderful but their budgets have been mismanaged for years.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (qAyxA)

68 Nashville that bad? You can tell from my snark I thought Memphis was much worse.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (2DOZq)

69 My grandparents used to live on Watts Bar Lake. It was really nice and way away from everything. Great fishing too. The big thing to do on the weekends was hit the big flea markets.

Posted by: f'd at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (Tnijr)

70 16 Tn. has a healthy sales tax.
Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2020 12:54 PM (X/Pw5)

Funny, looked at the sales tax rate there.

Just about the same as what I pay in Sales tax in California.

Where I also pay Income tax, and my property taxes are only low due to prop 13.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (NgKpN)

71
I saw Jesus Jones open for Mohammed's Johnson at AWH in '83.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (z0XD8)

72 68 Nashville that bad? You can tell from my snark I thought Memphis was much worse.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (2DOZq)

Kind of has a Denver thing going on, IMO.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (90T4r)

73 Im guessing this is because TN is a Right to Work state
where businesses can thrive and the costs of building highways and construction isnt astronomical b/c union graft

Posted by: McCool at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (sZaoP)

74 Ashley Judd is from Kentucky. Kentucky is wonderful but their budgets have been mismanaged for years.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:02 PM (qAyxA)



Their budgets are awfully puffy.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (z0XD8)

75 What? Tennessee currently taxes groceries? Who does that? Not even in California.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (VNdB4)
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Give it time.

And, pretty soon, I expect CA to tax Social Security.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (RIAR/)

76 I get states confused. The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right? What states do the Appalachians run through?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (Uu+Jp)

77 Kentucky is wonderful but their budgets have been mismanaged for years.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:02 P

Their state pension system is in big trouble.


You know how they're going to fix it, right?

Posted by: Ha at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (EsGqq)

78 What? Tennessee currently taxes groceries? Who does that? Not even in California.
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IL does.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (MIKMs)

79 re 66: well, a lot of the rich supported Hitler in the early 1930s because they feared the Communists and thought they could control Hitler if he ever took over

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (4a9Vv)

80 Dukes of Hazzard Museum in Pigeon Forge, TN.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (7Dv7r)

81 they always imagine THEY are the ones on top directing the proles and deciding which of US are going against the wall.
Posted by: SturmToddler at February 24, 2020 12:57 PM (8D42x)

And if it ever comes to that, I'll be happy for the anonymity that will let me go "Comrades, why are we listening to this hoarder? He could feed a million of us!"

If there's going to be guillotines, the first rule is to keep your head out, and the second is to try to turn it against its would-be master.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (J+mig)

82
Memphis is worse than Nashville from what I've seen.

As for the content - G-d only knows what they'll do. Here in CO, at least FTTB, the government has to return surpluses to taxpayers.

I don't think TN has such a measure, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of publicly-funded boondoogle will arise from this, and be entitled funding permanently while times are good, only to become a terrible albatross when times are bad.

Because gubmint gonna gubmint.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (6n67J)

83 Tennessee has a lot of pretty places ... a spot in the hills might have mild winters, and comfortable summers. Maybe retirees have been moving that direction? But only retirees that love America and don't mind the "hillbilly" culture ... so that keeps the riffraff out.


I do know many from my "past life" that moved to Tennessee and seem pretty happy with it. My 6 month stint in those hills was enjoyable ... a possible escape in case Illinois starts confiscating property to pay the golden pensions of the government worker special people.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

84 I regret building in Ohio.
After a projected surplus DeWine decided to raise fuel tax to pay for the roads and use the surplus to create a new drug task force. Sad. I hate Ohio. Mostly.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (DB16e)


Adam Ant DeRINO is unfortunately typical of every GOP Governor except for Jim Rhodes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (y7DUB)

85
"I don't see the math there right now without some changes to the budget
to do it," state Sen. Chuck Hufstetler, a Rome Republican



Harrumph!

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (CTN7u)

86 I get states confused. The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right? What states do the Appalachians run through?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (Uu+Jp)

Alabama to Maine.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (X/Pw5)

87 Dukes of Hazzard Museum in Pigeon Forge, TN.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (7Dv7r)


I thought they were from Georgia.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)

88 78 What? Tennessee currently taxes groceries? Who does that? Not even in California.
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IL does.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (MIKMs)

Yes, they do. But then, we tax everything here.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (90T4r)

89 I saw California on a Nashville sidewalk holding a sign reading, "WILL REGULATE FOR FOOD!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)

90 I always wondered how you would go about forging pigeons.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

91 >>> So is Buck Throckmorton actually an Ace sock?

He could use a third name.... like Susan Oliver Cuthbertson or whoever

Posted by: McCool at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (sZaoP)

92
Adam Ant DeRINO is unfortunately typical of every GOP Governor except for Jim Rhodes.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (y7DUB)


Goody two goody two goody goody two shoes.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)

93 76 I get states confused. The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right? What states do the Appalachians run through?
Posted by: Northernlurker a



The Smokey Mountains are part of the Appalachians. The Appalachians start (more or less) in Northern Alabama/Georgia and go up into Maine (probably Canada too but I'm too lazy to look that up).

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (vN4+Q)

94 What states do the Appalachians run through?
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The Appalachians run from Newfoundland to Alabama.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (sWM8x)

95 Checking in from the glorious peoples republic of Cook County. Nashville seems to be a top location for people fleeing this state.

Posted by: EM August at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (IRgcW)

96 How is Appalachian pronounced--is it appalayshun or appalatchian?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (Uu+Jp)

97 The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right?

Partially, they're in North Carolina too.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (y7DUB)

98 Drink all day and rock all night

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (ZLI7S)

99 So according to the CDC, each American gets 2 to 3 colds per year.

https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/common-cold/index.html

Now extrapolate a 2% casualty rate and do the math. I don't remember ever saying this before but Rush was talking out of ass today in regards to the threat of Coronavirus and blowing off the 2% fatality rate.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (prSvo)

100 Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (Uu+Jp)

Starts in Maine and ends in Georgia. 14 states.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (2DOZq)

101 >> So is Buck Throckmorton actually an Ace sock?


He's no JohnnyColdcuts.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (qoXoX)

102 75 What? Tennessee currently taxes groceries? Who does that? Not even in California.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (VNdB4)
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Give it time.

And, pretty soon, I expect CA to tax Social Security.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (RIAR/)

Yeah, like they all tax my Military retirement.

I even have to pay Social Security on it!

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (NgKpN)

103 Drink all day and rock all night
Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (ZLI7S)
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I know what you're doing....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (RIAR/)

104 There's the Hippy!

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (qoXoX)

105 Lol at all the FL Dems one by one coming out with anti Bernie statements.


Buh bye, bishes.

Posted by: Ha at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (EsGqq)

106 IL is 1% on most groceries.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (Cus5s)

107
Tennessee has a lot of pretty places ... a spot in the hills might have mild winters, and comfortable summers. Maybe retirees have been moving that direction? But only retirees that love America and don't mind the "hillbilly" culture ... so that keeps the riffraff out.

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You have just described my parents who are new residents of TN to the exact detail, down to the nice little spot in the Smokies.

TN need not worry - neither of them will ever vote Democrat, or for tax increases, or anything dumb.

My dad never has; and my mom #WalkedAway as of 2008.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (6n67J)

108 86 I get states confused. The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right?

And North Carolina.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (H8QX8)

109 Gas is cheaper over there, too.

Posted by: windbag at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (y/vnJ)

110 I went to a conference in Gatlinburg, Tennessee many years. It was very pretty.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (Uu+Jp)

111 83 Tennessee has a lot of pretty places ... a spot in the hills might have mild winters, and comfortable summers. Maybe retirees have been moving that direction? But only retirees that love America and don't mind the "hillbilly" culture ... so that keeps the riffraff out.

I do know many from my "past life" that moved to Tennessee and seem pretty happy with it. My 6 month stint in those hills was enjoyable ... a possible escape in case Illinois starts confiscating property to pay the golden pensions of the government worker special people.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2020 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

The only reason my family ever left TN (before I was born) was the scarcity of good jobs. I hear that has been changing. It may be time to return some day.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (J+mig)

112 54, What is not noted is that a large part of the water wars between GA and AL and FL and GA and AL is that power plants use huge amounts of water from streams for cooling which is evaporated into the atmosphere. We have the technology to get rid of that feature if we wish.

Ironically or perhaps disgustingly, most city water with sewage systems has one of the best recycling rates of any product. That is why things like low gal flush toilets and water saving appliances do not save that much if the house is on a public sewage system. Most of that water is recaptured and returned to streams after use.

Where you do run into problems is dry areas with high evaporation rates or drawing from well water aquifers and not surface water which often occurs in dry areas. Fossil water in deep aquifers are a declining resource that needs to be managed wisely rather than for high evaporation uses.

Posted by: whig at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (EUDB2)

113 For love of god do not tell them they have a surplus.

Posted by: Picric at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (nonGu)

114 Have they considered getting rid of their property tax entirely, rather than doing the grocery tax holiday?

I have a hard time thinking of something better calculated to improve the lives of citizens than knowing they actually truly own their homes and land.

Posted by: Razell at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (2B4wA)

115 I like Memphis.
It's like any other old city, good parts, bad parts, but Corky's rib rub changed my life!
(Heavy on the paprika).

Posted by: MarkY at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (lp/sl)

116 James -
California's doing its best to wreck the Central Valley.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (ILoDM)

117 I thought they were from Georgia.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)

Ben Jones (Cooter) opened it up after he ran for public office. I got Cletus's autograph there a few years back. They also have another one in Nashville, but the original started in Gatlinburg and moved over the hill to Pigeon Forge.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (7Dv7r)

118 well there is a massive FedEx hub at Memphis

Posted by: Bored383 at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (zJ4nO)

119 You can't buy Jack Daniels in Lynchberg, Tennessee.

And why are they not DEMANDING the name of that town changed? I mean, aren't blacks triggered by it?

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

120 96
How is Appalachian pronounced--is it appalayshun or appalatchian?

i saw Aerosol Fentanyl open for Appalachian Apparition at the Nation's Station back in the noughties.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (sGtp+)

121 Admiral Kirk moved to Tennessee.

Posted by: Spacer at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (WX+x0)

122 Tennessee?
I hesitate to comment until Fat Elvis weighs in.

Posted by: wth at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

123 I thought it started in Georgia and ended in Maine.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (Qf83p)

124 Gavin Newsom and his hair are perplexed, and angry.

Posted by: PJ at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (qlTN9)

125 Tennessee is great but my impression is that SC has better lakes. Anyone here know about Center Hill Lake? If you go down near Decatur AL you see some really nice Tenn river lakes.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (qAyxA)

126 I miss Johnny Coldcuts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (KZzsI)

127 I would like to visit the Blues Hall of Fame in Memphis some day.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

128 95 Checking in from the glorious peoples republic of Cook County. Nashville seems to be a top location for people fleeing this state.
Posted by: EM August at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (IRgcW)

To be fair, those of us from Illinois fleeing from the state should be placed on some form of probation until the new state is satisfied that we are not bringing in the Illinois Disease to infect the host. It's the only way to be sure.
Illinois is the Coronavirus of of culture.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (90T4r)

129
Memphis is a nice place to get murdered.


Oh! and eat ribs.



If you don't get murdered first.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (z0XD8)

130 >>Fossil water in deep aquifers are a declining resource that needs to be managed wisely rather than for high evaporation uses.


Hahaha!


That's Retarded, Sir.

Fossil Water...man, that's ripe.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (qoXoX)

131 Appalatchian but who knows the correct pronunciation. My Pittsgurgese isn't as strong as it once was but still sneaks out at times.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (vN4+Q)

132 Yeah, the sales tax is no joke, 9.5 percent is a kick in the balls but you can write it off on your Federal ones if you itemize, which we do anyway on account of mortgage interest.

But my property taxes cost less than a rifle a year (650 for three acres), and for it I have really good road maintenance including plowing when we need it- I have a county commissioner near me so we get taken care of pretty quick =)

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (rGgyS)

133 Important question and all morons should know the answer:

what is the difference between Bourbon and Tennessee whiskey?

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (qAyxA)

134 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (DveAR)

135 It is mah considhud opiniunn the DOW is goin' t' coerrect t' tha 22-23k level.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (CLteG)

136 Georgia's solution for EVERY DAMN TRAFFIC problem is to spend tens of millions building extra lanes on the expressway and then ---charging taxpayers AGAIN to use the roads that they have paid for x times over and over.

All of this is to insure that State Senator Hoofenfluffer can make sure that his turn at the public trough enriches his fat offshore accounts.


Georgia's problem is not a budget shortage.



It's a politician surplus.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (CTN7u)

137 106 IL is 1% on most groceries.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2020 01:07 PM (Cus5s)


Ain't life grand here?

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (90T4r)

138 122 Tennessee?
I hesitate to comment until Fat Elvis weighs in.
Posted by: wth at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

Thankyew. Thankyewveddymuch.

Posted by: Jumpsuit Elvis at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (RD7QR)

139 China, thy name is Otter.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (CLteG)

140 Flying out tomorrow to Nashville for a convention. Can't wait to get some Nashville hot chicken.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (7Dv7r)

141 I get states confused. The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right?
________________

Yes, the Smoky Mountains run along the TN and NC border, and are a subrange of the Appalachian Mountains.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (k4dH2)

142 Texas has about a 15 billion dollar rainy day account. That's the official name.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)

143 > Tennessee is the fishing capitol of the world.

(laughs in Alaskan)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (Ewo9R)

144 So racist. I bet TN still prosecuted theft under $1000 too.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (gcuqN)

145 Memphis is a nice place to get murdered.


Oh! and eat ribs.



If you don't get murdered first.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (z0XD8


Don't forget to head over to Gus' World Famous Fried Chicken and get some of the best damned fried chicken anywhere.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

146 >>Flying out tomorrow to Nashville for a convention.


If you can (if they are in town)go see a Predators Game.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (qoXoX)

147 Important question and all morons should know the answer:

what is the difference between Bourbon and Tennessee whiskey?
Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (qAyxA)

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Whether or not you extend your pinky when drinking it.

Posted by: Mike Bloomberg, and I approve this message at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (RQDhf)

148 133 Important question and all morons should know the answer:

what is the difference between Bourbon and Tennessee whiskey?
Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:10 PM (qAyxA)

Bourbon's made in Kentucky and has a different mash bill.

Posted by: Jumpsuit Elvis at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (RD7QR)

149 99 So according to the CDC, each American gets 2 to 3 colds per year.

https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/common-cold/index.html

Now extrapolate a 2% casualty rate and do the math. I don't remember ever saying this before but Rush was talking out of ass today in regards to the threat of Coronavirus and blowing off the 2% fatality rate.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (prSvo)

Given how the curve of these things go and presumably many unreported cases, the end fatality rate will probably be like 0.5% to 1%. The flu has a mortality rate of about 0.1%(but will end up infecting far more people).

It is somewhat overblown though.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (qexAi)

150
I would like to visit the Blues Hall of Fame in Memphis some day.
Posted by: Northernlurke

Great place. I got my Elvis swinging legs clock there.
Sadly, it only lasted 6-8 years.

Posted by: MarkY at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (lp/sl)

151 So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (Uu+Jp)

152 75 What? Tennessee currently taxes groceries? Who does that? Not even in California.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:01 PM (VNdB4)
------------

Give it time.

And, pretty soon, I expect CA to tax Social Security.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 24, 2020 01:03 PM (RIAR/)


California will tax oxygen as soon as they figure out how to do it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (DXT9A)

153 Appalachian is an appealing appellation. Not appalling.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (Qf83p)

154 If you can (if they are in town)go see a Predators Game.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (qoXoX)

Definitely on the bucket list

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (7Dv7r)

155 My biggest customer is in Tennessee.

Posted by: Chris M at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (eAZVt)

156 Tennessee Stud

https://youtu.be/dq-1G6Wif8s

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (KZzsI)

157 by the way, off topic, but I wonder if the usual leftist loons have figured out how to blame Trump for this here virus thing.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (4a9Vv)

158 Tennessee has a budge surplus while high tax, high regulation states California and Illinois drown in red ink. Apparently, Socialism Justice does not work.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (W4M6f)

159 So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (Uu+Jp)

No English.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2020 01:13 PM (X/Pw5)

160 Texas has about a 15 billion dollar rainy day account. That's the official name.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)

------------

And it drives us BONKERS!

Posted by: Austin ISD, Dallas ISD, and Houston ISD at February 24, 2020 01:13 PM (RQDhf)

161 119 You can't buy Jack Daniels in Lynchberg, Tennessee.

And why are they not DEMANDING the name of that town changed? I mean, aren't blacks triggered by it?
Posted by: Sponge



Gov Jolsen McKlanrobes (VA SSR) will rename Lynchburg, VA as soon as he burns Liberty University down.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:13 PM (vN4+Q)

162 125 Tennessee is great but my impression is that SC has better lakes. Anyone here know about Center Hill Lake? If you go down near Decatur AL you see some really nice Tenn river lakes.
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Center Hill used to have great bass fishing, but it's not at its peak any more. Still a very nice lake and area.

North Alabama has great lakes for bass fishing. Within a one hour drive time, I have my choice of Pickwick, Wheeler, Guntersville, and Chickamauga.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (sWM8x)

163 "How will you pay for yout tax cuts?" The laffer curve is observed continuously. How will you pay for your tax increases?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (WHGHB)

164 75

My state taxes groceries. I was surprised to find out some states dont. And my state is reddish.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (gcuqN)

165 142 Texas has about a 15 billion dollar rainy day account. That's the official name.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)


California has one too, which Newsom is now pissing away on programs to help the gay polar bears stop smoking.

At least he's spending ... er ... "investing" it in something sensible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (DXT9A)

166 When the dust clears, one of Trump's legacies will be the sea change from so-called "Free Trade" to "Fair Trade" within the GOPe.

Sorry, Globalist neocons. You lose.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (qaSBO)

167 >>So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?


Their laissez-faire attitude on Sister Humpin'?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (qoXoX)

168 So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?

Posted by: Northernlurker


The redneck opportunities.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (Qf83p)

169 So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?

'shine.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (qaSBO)

170 Texas has about a 15 billion dollar rainy day account. That's the official name.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)


So, they could give every Texan a million dollars and still have plenty for rain.......

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

171 90
I always wondered how you would go about forging pigeons.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 24, 2020 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

_________


With a yellowhammer?

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (x9jeR)

172 One of the issues though that TN has cyclical problems with is by relying so heavily on sales tax, it is dependent on the economic cycle which often leads to large cuts when the economic cycle is down.

On the other hand, that probably keeps the bureaucracy undergrowth less that it might be. The 1990's debacle of TennCare darn near broke the state so since then they have been prudent.

Posted by: whig at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (EUDB2)

173 North Alabama has great lakes for bass fishing. Within a one hour drive time, I have my choice of Pickwick, Wheeler, Guntersville, and Chickamauga.
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Oh, and Wilson. I forgot Wilson.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (sWM8x)

174 >>So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?

Daddy made whiskey and he made it well
Cost $2 and it burned like hell

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (ZLI7S)

175 >>I always wondered how you would go about forging pigeons.


You interested in making some kind of Flewgazi?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (qoXoX)

176 I find the connections between blue grass and old timey mountain music and Irish music fascinating.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:15 PM (Uu+Jp)

177
I wonder if the usual leftist loons have figured out how to blame Trump for this here virus thing.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken

=======

They have. I was reading some lefty twitterites who said we're doomed because of Trump's funding cuts and his obsession with walls to keep brown people out rather than smart safety measures that hurt his powerful friends. No, no evidence.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (VNdB4)

178 167 >>So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?


Their laissez-faire attitude on Sister Humpin'?
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (qoXoX)

I think that was more a RESULT of moving to the Appalachians than a CAUSE of moving there.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (RD7QR)

179 I think gold hits $1700 an ounce before COB tomorrow.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (prSvo)

180 141 I get states confused. The Smoky Mountains are in Tennessee. Is that right?

don't know about no mountains

but smokies

lord,yes

lotz and lotz

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (rpxSz)

181 FOX covering Month 2 of the Kobe funeral

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (CTN7u)

182 151 So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?
Posted by: Northernlurker



Reminded them of home. Geography is similar its just the weather is better.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (vN4+Q)

183 114 Have they considered getting rid of their property tax entirely, rather than doing the grocery tax holiday?

I have a hard time thinking of something better calculated to improve the lives of citizens than knowing they actually truly own their homes and land.
Posted by: Razell at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (2B4wA)


Ah, comrade, of course we must tax property, what better way to stick it to the bourgeoisie? After all, property is theft. /California

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (DXT9A)

184 I worry about Tennessee. Great places to live attract liberal locusts. Plus it's the new center of the music biz, which doesn't attract a lot of conservatives.

Posted by: Mayor pete at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (Izzlo)

185 At least he's spending ... er ... "investing" it in something sensible.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:14 PM (DXT9A)
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I thought he was spending it on hair products.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (RIAR/)

186 I moved from a state with no income tax but really high sales and property tax, to a state with an income tax and lower property and sales tax. I pay roughly the same in taxes overall.

They get you one or or another.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (gcuqN)

187 Off mayoral sock

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (Izzlo)

188 A budget surplus?

I have a plan for that.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (gWhOV)

189 Then there was that time in Chile when I held that cracked timber.
"There's a light up above!", cried the miners.
And twenty men scrambled from a would be grave.

Posted by: My Word as a Biden at February 24, 2020 01:18 PM (88+cf)

190 > So what was it about the Appalachians that attracted Scots-Irish immigrants?

Same reason the Swedes moved to Minnesota, and, the Vietnamese moved to Louisiana.

Reminded them of home.

Also, as others have noted, no English, and convenient for producing high-quality untaxed whiskey.




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:18 PM (Ewo9R)

191 186 I moved from a state with no income tax but really high sales and property tax, to a state with an income tax and lower property and sales tax. I pay roughly the same in taxes overall.

They get you one or or another.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (gcuqN)

You are not supposed to notice that.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:18 PM (90T4r)

192 181 FOX covering Month 2 of the Kobe funeral
Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (CTN7u)

Pshaw. I'm still wending my way through Illinois.

Posted by: John McCain's funeral at February 24, 2020 01:18 PM (RD7QR)

193 I was a deficit hawk in my younger days. The conclusion I drew was that congressmen conduct thier personal finances with more prudence and wisdom than what they gave the country. Ever hear of a congressman having his car repoed? No? Well there it is.

That cynicism must be brought to other topics.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (WHGHB)

194 Tennessee Stud

https://youtu.be/dq-1G6Wif8s
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2020 01:12 PM (KZzsI)


I've always liked that song. Hoyt Axton did a good version.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (aS1PU)

195 "There's a light up above!", cried the miners.
And twenty men scrambled from a would be grave.

Posted by: My Word as a Biden at February 24, 2020 01:18 PM (88+cf)

Big Bad Joe

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (X/Pw5)

196 FWIW, while I'm off rambling on about something irrelevant old time mountain music had a huge number songs about death, dying, loss and the grave.
Just a personal observation.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

197 It is mah considhud opiniunn the DOW is goin' t' coerrect t' tha 22-23k level.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgo


So I should wait a few more days before buying?

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (Ed8Zd)

198 > I moved from a state with no income tax but really high sales and property tax,

Alaska has no state income, sales, or property taxes.

Some cities have sales and property taxes, but the state as a whole does not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (Ewo9R)

199 196 FWIW, while I'm off rambling on about something irrelevant old time mountain music had a huge number songs about death, dying, loss and the grave.
Just a personal observation.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

It was a very hard life.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)

200 How about Trumps stock market?!?!

Posted by: Poopy at February 24, 2020 01:20 PM (t76MV)

201 198 > I moved from a state with no income tax but really high sales and property tax,

Alaska has no state income, sales, or property taxes.

Some cities have sales and property taxes, but the state as a whole does not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (Ewo9R)

You pay for it in daylight.(actually their oil production)

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (qexAi)

202 I had a cabin on Center Hill Lake when I was a wee lad.. The lake is a deep lake and one of the few that has small mouth and walleye. There are huge catfish in it too. Smithville has the fiddler's convention and there is an Appalachian crafts museum or such nearby too. The structure is mostly mud bottom with rock relief unless you go up one of the many creeks. So, what else you want to know?

Posted by: catman at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (4HMlb)

203 "There's a light up above!", cried the miners.
And twenty men scrambled from a would be grave.

Posted by: My Word as a Biden at February 24, 2020 01:18 PM (88+cf)


So, you're saying you're the canary in the coal mine, you just forgot to die? Your brain is dead, for sure.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)

204
All my exes live in Texas. That's why I hang my hat in Tennessee.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (rXie1)

205 My grandmother took me on an overnight train ride from Chicago to Memphis when I was 2-3. All I independently remember is the feel of the sheets, so crisp and somehow 'secure' (I think that was because we were tucked in firmly) and the two books she bought for the trip. The Little Black Puppy and Belling the Cat. She said she would never again take a kid on a trip, even though everyone was patient and kind. Odd the things you remember from childhood: I remember the trip but not the destination.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (MIKMs)

206 198

Yeah but you have to live in Alaska.

Montana has no sales tax either but lots of cities and counties have their own as well.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (gcuqN)

207 198, Cough, oil revenue from the sovereign fund pays the bills in Alaska. When the oil dries up or if it becomes cheap, Alaska is not in the best of financial shape.

Posted by: whig at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (EUDB2)

208 I worry about Tennessee. Great places to live attract liberal locusts.

Hippies have infested Asheville, Chattanooga, and Knoxville.


Nashville has been a blue hell-hole since C and W dropped the W.


North Carolina went through this and went blue. The Virginia Effect is spreading.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (CTN7u)

209 Mmm...Poopy.

Posted by: ggerg at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (sWM8x)

210 Get ready for the Coronavirus recession

Posted by: Poopy at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (t76MV)

211 We have sales tax on groceries in South Dakota. But low property taxes and no income tax. But don't move here; we're full up. Oh and it's really cold and snowy. Really really cold. Yeah don't move here. Go away.

Posted by: Archer at February 24, 2020 01:22 PM (gmo/4)

212 Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (MIKMs)

Was it a midnight train?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

213 > Bourbon's made in Kentucky and has a different mash bill.

Nope, it's not the mash that makes the difference.

Tennessee whiskey is charcoal filtered as it comes out of the still. Regular bourbon is not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:22 PM (Ewo9R)

214 181 FOX covering Month 2 of the Kobe funeral
Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:16 PM (CTN7u)


Good Lord, will they ever give it a rest? You'd think Kobe had cured cancer. He was good at throwing a ball through a ring. I'm sorry he passed, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (DXT9A)

215 121, no, Shatner's place is in Kentucky. Has a horse farm up there, but with work he's only there about half the year. We talked about it at DragonCon a few years ago.

As for the Muslims in Tennessee, we have a couple varieties.

Foreign students at UT Knoxville and at Vanderbilt. The ones at Vandy look down at the UT Knoxville variety, but since they are over two hours apart, no one cares.

A bunch of Kurds in Nashville who got resettled as refugees after Desert Storm. They liked Nashville since it was kinda close to Campbell and 5th SFG, which had most of the military's Kurdish speakers. Most of the "Mediterranean" restaurants in Nashville are Kurdish. Some are actually Christian, some ain't.

Various Arabs who followed the Kurds. Since the Kurds have a lot of the street gangs in some parts of Nashville and Kurds hate Arabs as a group, that keeps them quiet. Some of the churches are getting in on that NGO money resettling ex-Iraqi interpreters and such, but compared to the tide of noxious Yankee transplants, they're a good spit in the toilet tank.

There's an alleged "Muslim training camp" over by Dover, but it's a pathetic trailer park of ex-jailhouse convert Black Muslims (not NOI, actual Sunnis), but they're barely surviving on welfare fraud and telemarketer work.

Then a bunch of Somalis down the Interstate in Shelbyville working for Tyson Chicken for slave wages. If they ever stop being useful and start acting like Somalis, they have the approximate lifespan of Frosty the Snowman in a steel mill crucible.

And that's about it.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (rGgyS)

216 The property taxes in East TN are very reasonable. And some areas just can't afford that many bureaucrats. if I can ever get these two places sold, that's where I'm headed.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (JKNZq)

217 Is Arthur Laffer still in Nashville?

We grew up in Tennesse and spent a lot of time there as adults. We are in Colorado now.

Denver runs this state. When we moved from Dallas, we had newer cars. The cost of vehicle registration is very high here. To register both of our cars would have
been > $1,000. So we have not done that yet.

Lots of people here drive used vehicles. Denver spends a lot of time complaining about air quality.

It's a mystery why most people don't drive newer, cleaner vehicles.

In Cookeville, TN the cost to register a vehicle is something like $25-$45 dollars annual.

The Big South Fork River and Recreation Area is one of the best parks I've been to, and that includes the ones here. Highly recommended.

Posted by: David Prince at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (JkygK)

218 I moved from a state with no income tax but really high sales and property tax,

Alaska has no state income, sales, or property taxes.

Some cities have sales and property taxes, but the state as a whole does not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:19 PM (Ewo9R)



Texas' property taxes are insane.

I honestly don't see how most people retire around here esp if they're depending on Soc Sec.

They should eliminate the property taxes and add a penny or two to the sales tax and extended it.

That would be better and more fair as everyone then has skin in the game.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (z0XD8)

219 >>FWIW, while I'm off rambling on about something irrelevant old time mountain music had a huge number songs about death, dying, loss and the grave.

Bluegrass music can be found all along the Appalachian chain. When I lived in Maine there were some fantastic bluegrass festivals during the summer.

Farmers would rent out some of their fields and bands would come play for a couple days. Good times.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (ZLI7S)

220
So according to the CDC, each American gets 2 to 3 colds per year.

Do you? Neither do I.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (aKsyK)

221 >>Montana has no sales tax either but lots of cities and counties have their own as well.


Yep. Though usually slaved to projects to accomodate tourism. The taxes are basically levied on the Tourists and the people in those Communities.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (qoXoX)

222 Texas has about a 15 billion dollar rainy day account. That's the official name.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)
+++++++++++
That sounds like a lot, but is it? Texas is a big state. The budget last year was a quarter trillion dollars, so that rainy day fund is 15/250, or 3/50, or 6% of the budget, or (assuming averages), 22 days. Texas' emergency fund is a month.

On a government basis, that is phenomenally good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (I2dne)

223
What is Memphis like, anyone?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (VNdB4)

224 Posted by: Archer at February 24, 2020 01:22 PM (gmo/4

I'm grandfathered in. I was born in Rapid City (actually Ellsworth AFB)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (2DOZq)

225
What did Tennessee?

The same thing Arkansas.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (aPHOJ)

226 I'm doing my part.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2020 01:24 PM (19g6/)

227 What is it about leftists and their fascination with bodily excretions. Normal people do their business but certainly don't dwell on it. I suspect it is because their disgust features are turned off and they don't really know how disgusting they are to normies.

Kinda like a person with bad BO comes to think of their stink as normal while others flee in disgust.

Posted by: whig at February 24, 2020 01:24 PM (EUDB2)

228 >>FOX covering Month 2 of the Kobe funeral


Shit son, you call that a Funeral?

Posted by: Zombie McCain at February 24, 2020 01:24 PM (qoXoX)

229 Posted by: catman at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (4HMlb)

I've have actually thought about moving to that area

have friends who have tree farms in McMinnville

the hurricane area is very beautiful and compared to here, the houses are super cheap

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (rpxSz)

230 What is Memphis like, anyone?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM


Sub-standard BBQ.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (aPHOJ)

231 222 Texas has about a 15 billion dollar rainy day account. That's the official name.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)
+++++++++++
That sounds like a lot, but is it? Texas is a big state. The budget last year was a quarter trillion dollars, so that rainy day fund is 15/250, or 3/50, or 6% of the budget, or (assuming averages), 22 days. Texas' emergency fund is a month.

On a government basis, that is phenomenally good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (I2dne)

Taxes won't fall 100% for a month. Maybe 10 to 20% averaged across a year.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (qexAi)

232 other than the extremes like CA, IL, NY and NJ taxes are not that much different state to state. They just come from different places. And within states there can be huge discrepancies in sales tax and property tax county county as well.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (gcuqN)

233 O Death by Ralph Stanley for one.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (JKNZq)

234 Hippies have infested Asheville, Chattanooga, and Knoxville.

North Carolina went through this and went blue. The Virginia Effect is spreading.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:21 PM (CTN7u)

California, circa 1972.

The tragic thing is that once the liberal locusts descend, the place never recovers. You'd think it would, after the locusts move on, but nope. Which is why the Northeast and upper Midwest still suffer from liberalism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (DXT9A)

235 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (I2dne)

The budget is approximately 125 billion.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (2DOZq)

236 230 What is Memphis like, anyone?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM

Sub-standard BBQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (aPHOJ)

And that's when the fight started, your honor!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (NWiLs)

237
Sub-standard BBQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

========

Oy.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (VNdB4)

238 233 O Death by Ralph Stanley for one.
Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 01:25 PM (JKNZq)

Used to great effect in O Brother Where Art Thou.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (NWiLs)

239 What is Memphis like, anyone?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (VNdB4)

BEWARE

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (rpxSz)

240 Not to be a downer but how much state pension liability do they have? Most states like to ignore that potential problem.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (4thlk)

241 211 We have sales tax on groceries in South Dakota. But low property taxes and no income tax. But don't move here; we're full up. Oh and it's really cold and snowy. Really really cold. Yeah don't move here. Go away.
Posted by: Archer at February 24, 2020 01:22 PM (gmo/4)

How's the mosquito population?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (Uu+Jp)

242 >>What is Memphis like, anyone?


Good place for walking.

Posted by: Marc Cohn at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (qoXoX)

243 227 What is it about leftists and their fascination with bodily excretions. Normal people do their business but certainly don't dwell on it. I suspect it is because their disgust features are turned off and they don't really know how disgusting they are to normies.

Kinda like a person with bad BO comes to think of their stink as normal while others flee in disgust.
Posted by: whig at February 24, 2020 01:24 PM (EUDB2)


If you ever figure this out, please let me know. Same thing with feminists and their lady parts, or fruits and their repellent practices. Keep that stuff to yourself!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (DXT9A)

244 >>The tragic thing is that once the liberal locusts descend, the place never recovers. You'd think it would, after the locusts move on, but nope. Which is why the Northeast and upper Midwest still suffer from liberalism.

Bernie isn't from Vermont and Warren isn't from Massachusetts.

It's like the Hotel California around here for leftists.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (ZLI7S)

245 Texas' property taxes are insane.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (z0XD

I worked in real estate for a brief time in south Texas. Property taxes plus ridiculously high wind insurance put me off of wanting to buy there. Well, that and the humidity and gigantic cockroaches that can fly.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (Ez6QX)

246 #210 Analysis has been made already of past disease induced market selloffs.

Conclusion is markets recover quite smartly soon after in some cases go way up. In no case do they crash and stay down.

This is a flu. Already in America over 12000 have died of other flus and that is on the low end of normal.

Yes this disease is ' different' but isn't the end of the world.

Posted by: torabora at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (UVds0)

247 Memphis is a shithole with a few nice areas, in the burbs. It is cheap to live there and theres a reason for that.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (gcuqN)

248 What is Memphis like, anyone?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (VNdB4)


They call it Memfrica for some reason......

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

249 > When the oil dries up or if it becomes cheap, Alaska is not in the best of financial shape.

Oil's dirt cheap right now. It's been dirt cheap before. That produces temporary belt tightening for Alaska, not long-term disaster.

That's why we have the permanent fund (not the "sovereign fund").

The permanent fund is not in oil assets, but rather in an extremely diverse investment portfolio (stocks, bonds, real estate... all kinds of stuff).


Today's value for the Permanent Fund is about $65 billion, or about $100,000 per Alaska resident.

Unlike most states, we didn't piss all the money from our windfall away.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:28 PM (Ewo9R)

250 Tennessee's budget windfall is a real puzzler. Tennessee has zero income tax, low property taxes, nominal energy production, no sea ports, and it's located in a backwards part of the country despised by all the best people.

It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key.

Posted by: DocJ at February 24, 2020 01:28 PM (77WPm)

251
All the Locust Exporter states are buying up bus tickets to Nashville.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2020 01:28 PM (pNxlR)

252
I would like to visit the Blues Hall of Fame in Memphis some day.
Posted by: Northernlurke
I disagree.
I live in KCMo, where BBQ is good, and Memphis BBQ rates.
I rate his comment "untrue".

Posted by: MarkY at February 24, 2020 01:28 PM (lp/sl)

253 Yikes! I meant to quote the BBQ comment.

Posted by: MarkY at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (lp/sl)

254
Gettin' some interesting answers on grocery taxes and Memphis.

I'm really surprised at the taxes on food in other states.

And now I want to go to Memphis to see if it's as limp as you guys suggest.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (VNdB4)

255 The other interesting thing is that TN has free college if you go to high school and graduate in the state. I read that but don't know any real details.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (JKNZq)

256 It is a nice place to live and some culture is not too far away.. Tennessee Tech.. Very pretty lake and area.

Posted by: catman at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (4HMlb)

257 How's the mosquito population?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (Uu+Jp)

I would say no where near as bad as the black fly population in the Adirondacks.


Posted by: Archer at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (gmo/4)

258
...
Denver runs this state. When we moved from Dallas, we had newer cars. The cost of vehicle registration is very high here. To register both of our cars would have
been > $1,000. So we have not done that yet.
...
Posted by: David Prince at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (JkygK)
++++++++++++
We have the absurd "ownership tax" and this is based on the concept of "original taxable value."

Whatever you *actually* paid for a new car (and on which you paid sales taxes), the Original Taxable Value is based on MSRP*0.85. You then pay some fraction of that as "ownership" tax. In the first year, it is 2.1% of Original Taxable Value. In year two, it is 1.2%, then 0.9%. For years 4-9, it is 0.45%. After nine years, the vehicle is officially worthless and there is no ownership tax.

After the 9th year, you pay only the license and road&bridge fee, which is about $72.00 (which is also paid in years 1-9).

Simple, right? Not complex at all, which is how you know it's honest...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (I2dne)

259
If you ever figure this out, please let me know. Same thing with feminists and their lady parts, or fruits and their repellent practices. Keep that stuff to yourself!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (DXT9A)

Liberals don't have a functioning disgust reflex. There's been studies done on it.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:29 PM (qexAi)

260 Good Lord, will they ever give it a rest? You'd think Kobe had cured cancer. He was good at throwing a ball through a ring.

He did something absolutely useless better than anybody else.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 24, 2020 01:30 PM (CTN7u)

261 I spent 2 years on and off working in Memphis. I know of what II speak.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at February 24, 2020 01:30 PM (gcuqN)

262 The 900 pound gorilla in state budgets are pensions.

In 2017 a LA cop Michael Downing got paid $1,010,711.35 from CalPERS

Posted by: torabora at February 24, 2020 01:30 PM (UVds0)

263 Tennessee Tech.. Very pretty lake and area.
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Dale Hollow is an awesome smallmouth lake. And you're right--it's a beautiful area.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 24, 2020 01:30 PM (sWM8x)

264 >>And now I want to go to Memphis to see if it's as limp as you guys suggest.

But boy you got a prayer in Memphis.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (ZLI7S)

265 The Appalachians run from Newfoundland to Alabama.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 24, 2020 01:06 PM (sWM8x)

____________


Interesting, did not know that. Visited Nova Scotia last year for the first time, mostly Cape Breton Island -- the home of my Scottish grandfather -- and it was beautiful, especially Cape Breton Highlands National Park.

Just read online that "the entire province is located within the Appalachian Mountains" which have eroded over the years. I'm pretty sure I read that Cape Breton Island geologically matches Scotland and is presumed to have floated over back in the day. Ironic, no?

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (x9jeR)

266 Wow, Obama's stock market is really taking a beating today!

Posted by: JoeF. at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)

267 The budget is approximately 125 billion.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:26 PM (2DOZq)
++++++
My cursory googling said the 250 I quoted, but I didn't read it carefully and so it could have been muti-year or something. At $125 billion, the emergency fund doubles to 12%, which is even better.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (I2dne)

268 > Which is why the Northeast and upper Midwest still suffer from liberalism.

Reflect that Detroit was basically the Silicon Valley of its day, before the communists took over.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (Ewo9R)

269 Must be socialism Suthin stiiile!

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (Orx/W)

270 What is Memphis like, anyone?
_______________

Lots of blacks, high crime, low property values, poor local government.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 24, 2020 01:32 PM (k4dH2)

271 We used to have licensing in WA state like that CO scheme. Then they managed to pass a law that was supposed to lock the car licensing in at $35 a year. Of course, they have driven that up some. But we found out that all sorts of things were funded by the car licensing, including the ferry system. The elites were not happy.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 01:32 PM (JKNZq)

272 So instead of a poll troll we have a stock market troll?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:32 PM (6XlcD)

273 Sure there are going to be surplusses when you spend zero dollars on dental care.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (j2k5u)

274 Mayor Rimjob is a really annoying POS, isn't he.....

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

275 So Trump is in India and got a hero's welcome.. Wouldn't know it by the media

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (6XlcD)

276 272 So instead of a poll troll we have a stock market troll?
Posted by: It's me donna



It's flexible.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (vN4+Q)

277 266 Wow, Obama's stock market is really taking a beating today!
____________________

It's only my market when it's climbing higher!

When it's falling like a stone, it's Trump's, or maybe George Bush's market!

Posted by: Baracky Obama at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (k4dH2)

278 Just read online that "the entire province is located within the Appalachian Mountains" which have eroded over the years. I'm pretty sure I read that Cape Breton Island geologically matches Scotland and is presumed to have floated over back in the day. Ironic, no?

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (x9jeR)


I saw a how where they went into a rift gully in Scotland. One side was European rocks and the other was North American. Pretty cool.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (aS1PU)

279 So instead of a poll troll we have a stock market troll?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:32 PM (6XlcD)

Next batch of utterly useless with zero predictive value national polls come-out tomorrow and Wednesday.

Posted by: DocJ at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (77WPm)

280
I worry about Tennessee. Great places to live attract liberal locusts. Plus it's the new center of the music biz, which doesn't attract a lot of conservatives.
Posted by: Mayor pete at February 24, 2020 01:17 PM (Izzlo)

--------

It makes sense though. No state is more culturally defined by its musical traditions (and they have 3!).

For whatever reason, TN is where music lives.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (6n67J)

281 274 Mayor Rimjob is a really annoying POS, isn't he.....
Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

His smug sanctimony is on par with James Comey's.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (NWiLs)

282 Memphis is a Baltimore wantabe

but be patient

it will get there

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (rpxSz)

283 45 you should think about moving to northern Alabama. All of the advantages of eastern TN but better

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (iSh8b)

284 So Trump is in India and got a hero's welcome.. Wouldn't know it by the media
Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (6XlcD)


If you're watching the media, you won't even know Trump's in India.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

285 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (I2dne)


No I think you're right . I was going by memory from last I knew about 5 years ago and just approximated an increase. Holy crap it's more than doubled !

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:35 PM (2DOZq)

286 The way the Lefty billionaires are all in for socialism will make them first against the wall no matter whose revolution comes.

Are they just suicidal? Have fantasies of mobs with torches and pitchforks storming their estates?


Two reasons:

1) The alligator eats them later, by which time they can escape.
2) To prevent any of the wrong people from becoming rich and showing up at their parties. This reason looms larger among those who did exactly that (Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk) because they know it's a real thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 24, 2020 01:35 PM (ZGrMX)

287 His smug sanctimony is on par with James Comey's.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 01:34 PM (NWiLs)


I'm still trying to figure out who told him that hijacking religion and pissing off the religious right was a GOOD idea. I'm betting that won't get you elected to high office.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

288 Is it pronounced Mem-fiss? Or Mum-fiss?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2020 01:35 PM (m45I2)

289 Wow, Obama's stock market is really taking a beating today!
Posted by: JoeF. at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (CqESo instead of a poll troll we have a stock market troll?


Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:32 PM (6XlcD)5x)

Who me?
I just find it funny that last week were hearing about how Obama deserves the credit for Trump's economy.

But today, they are singing a different tune.

No worries though, when it's back up over 28,000 in a few days, it will be back to Obama's economy again.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 24, 2020 01:36 PM (CqE5x)

290 Texas' property taxes are insane.

I honestly don't see how most people retire around here esp if they're depending on Soc Sec.

They should eliminate the property taxes and add a penny or two to the sales tax and extended it.

That would be better and more fair as everyone then has skin in the game.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (z0XD

-----------

In TX, your property taxes freeze when you reach 65 (if you're married, they freeze when the oldest spouse reaches 65).

So it mitigates the impact on fixed-income living, but it also means you wind up with a segment of the population who is more than happy to vote for every last damn ISD and municipal bond and tax increase that comes to ballot because it's Other Peoples' Money.

Don't know if someone's already said this or not, I was reading the comments.

Posted by: reason at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (sPO/s)

291 282 Memphis is a Baltimore wantabe
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Race to the bottom, baby!

Posted by: Birmingham at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (sWM8x)

292 Who me?
I just find it funny that last week were hearing about how Obama deserves the credit for Trump's economy.

No Poopy or some such name

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (6XlcD)

293 The MSM knows about as much about India as Christopher Columbus did.

Posted by: Archer at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (gmo/4)

294 Nevermind. I'm a half tard. It is a two year budget. I should have known it couldn't have doubled.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (2DOZq)

295 I believe the Constitution restricted the federal government from owning any more land that what was necessary for the operation of the government.

This would be to reduce the risk of a feudal system arising with the federal government handing out tracts of land in exchange for subservience to the powers that be.

The entire government and economic system could be reset with a structured sell-off of federal lands and the wealth lying beneath (and above) over a reasonable period of time.

Posted by: jwest at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (U6f/q)

296 They take Elvis very seriously in Memphis.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (NXJNi)

297 >>> Hippies have infested Asheville, Chattanooga, and Knoxville.
~~~~~

Can confirm. We are talking pandemic/Black Plague levels.

Went to a hippie wedding in Asheville last weekend and let's just say the Armenian wedding I went to years ago is no longer #1 on my list of Worst Weddings.

Posted by: IrishEi on tablet at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (XOGoM)

298 I used to do business with hospitals in TN when I was in FL. Enjoyed the people i met. they hated the yankee influx. We'd be having lunch and someone would say "the fucking yankees are ruining the place." yadda yadda. but they'd turn to me and say "not you Bob." Funny.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (Orx/W)

299 Failfornia uses illegal alien tax accounting. More illegals...more taxes.

Posted by: torabora at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (UVds0)

300 Kobe Bryant to be canonized.
First NBA player to reach sainthood, Pope Francis announced today.
"Many of the shots he made were clearly miraculous."

Posted by: Breaking News! at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (88+cf)

301 How is Appalachian pronounced--is it appalayshun or appalatchian?

-

Yes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (7KmXf)

302 The MSM knows about as much about India as Christopher Columbus did.
Posted by: Archer at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (gmo/4)


heh.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:38 PM (aS1PU)

303 No, it's TN for me. My husband found out that ancestors on his side and mine originally lived in TN. One of his ancestors started a church in East TN and he wanted to see that. I've spent almost two years now, watching the weather and looking for places there. I need community and I think that's the best fit for me.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 01:38 PM (JKNZq)

304 The Purge must come soon

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:38 PM (l4C/z)

305 No Poopy or some such name
Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (6XlcD)


No Groovy

- Stick


https://youtu.be/jbOvHcy5fv8

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

306 Memphis is like Birmingham, but worse.

Posted by: G. Gnome at February 24, 2020 01:38 PM (al6UK)

307 115 I like Memphis.
It's like any other old city, good parts, bad parts, but Corky's rib rub changed my life!
(Heavy on the paprika).
Posted by: MarkY at February 24, 2020 01:08 PM (lp/sl)

What's the bad part of Memphis called?

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (Izzlo)

308 >>First NBA player to reach sainthood, Pope Francis announced today.
"Many of the shots he made were clearly miraculous."


Like that one that mixed his DNA with the DNA of 2-3 other guys?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (qoXoX)

309
You'd think the Stock Market would be tired of kicking me in the naps all day long, but -

Nope.


Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (z0XD8)

310
Went to a hippie wedding in Asheville last weekend and let's just say the Armenian wedding I went to years ago is no longer #1 on my list of Worst Weddings.
Posted by: IrishEi on tablet at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (XOGoM)

What was bad about the Armenian wedding?
There should have been some hot chicks there.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (CqE5x)

311 Nevermind. I'm a half tard.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM


I ain't noways tard.

Posted by: Hillary! at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (NXJNi)

312 281 274 Mayor Rimjob is a really annoying POS, isn't he.....
Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)


he's pretty much a run-of-the -mill pickle puffer

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (rpxSz)

313 I was in KY last year, would move there if there were jobs in my IT field. Lovely place.

TN is on my list of future vacations

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (l4C/z)

314 So it mitigates the impact on fixed-income living, but it also means you wind up with a segment of the population who is more than happy to vote for every last damn ISD and municipal bond and tax increase that comes to ballot because it's Other Peoples' Money.

Don't know if someone's already said this or not, I was reading the comments.
Posted by: reason at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (sPO/s)
+++++++++++++
I don't think anyone who is not a property owner (and that includes me) should be allowed to vote on property tax measures.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (I2dne)

315 naps = nads


Tnx, auto cucumber!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (z0XD8)

316 What's the bad part of Memphis called?

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I love that joke.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (7KmXf)

317 >>Mayor Rimjob is a really annoying POS, isn't he.....


He just likes to stir shit up.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (qoXoX)

318
So Trump is in India and got a hero's welcome.. Wouldn't know it by the media
Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (6XlcD)

If you're watching the media, you won't even know Trump's in India.
Posted by: Sponge

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Unless you read the AP account. Honest to God, from the title to -- well, as far as I could stand to read, about halfway through -- every sentence drips with anti-Trumpism.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (VNdB4)

319 It's true that variations in property, income and sales taxes tend to even out, so the question is, where are you most vulnerable? If you're retired and you want to live in a house, the answer is quite easy.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (6/uwW)

320 297: I was thinking about a possible golf trip destination to Asheville. Lots of lovely golf courses in the Smokey's. I can ignore the hippies.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (vN4+Q)

321 290 Texas' property taxes are insane.

I honestly don't see how most people retire around here esp if they're depending on Soc Sec.

They should eliminate the property taxes and add a penny or two to the sales tax and extended it.

That would be better and more fair as everyone then has skin in the game.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2020 01:23 PM (z0XD

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In TX, your property taxes freeze when you reach 65 (if you're married, they freeze when the oldest spouse reaches 65).

So it mitigates the impact on fixed-income living, but it also means you wind up with a segment of the population who is more than happy to vote for every last damn ISD and municipal bond and tax increase that comes to ballot because it's Other Peoples' Money.

Don't know if someone's already said this or not, I was reading the comments.
Posted by: reason

they are also capped in how much they can go up prior to turning 65. but yes they are high and the rate is about 20% higher than before all the yankees started moving here.

Posted by: x at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (nFwvY)

322 Mayor Rimjob is a really annoying POS, isn't he.....


He just likes to stir shit up.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (qoXoX)

With his own, personal swizzle stick

Posted by: JoeF. at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (CqE5x)

323 The last time I checked stocks on my iphone, the Dow was at 24,000. It's at 28,000 today! Woo-hoo!

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (OiC69)

324 What's the bad part of Memphis called?

Memphis?

Posted by: John McCain's funeral at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (RD7QR)

325
He just likes to stir shit up.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (qoXoX)


With his penis.

Before it exits.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

326 >>they are also capped in how much they can go up prior to turning 65. but yes they are high and the rate is about 20% higher than before all the yankees started moving here.


The good news for people in DFW area is your house will still be worth exactly what you paid for it 25 years ago.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (qoXoX)

327 So Trump is in India and got a hero's welcome.. Wouldn't know it by the media
Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:33 PM (6XlcD)

If you're watching the media, you won't even know Trump's in India.
Posted by: Sponge


Facebook is showing it off. 110,000 in the stadium.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (Xr3y2)

328 Went to a hippie wedding in Asheville last weekend and let's just say the Armenian wedding I went to years ago is no longer #1 on my list of Worst Weddings.
Posted by: IrishEi

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Did the bride and groom feed each other a finger full of honey right out of the jar to symbolize the sweetness of their love? Talk about how gaming brought them together?

The sister of the bride was seated next to me - she, a God fearing, wonderful lady, slapped her forehead and muttered "Oh for Ch**t's sake!"

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (Y4EXg)

329 My best friend moved out to Nashville about five years ago - he's a musician & his wife is a scientist at Vanderbilt. I need to go visit them, just haven't had the time or cash to spare

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (Izzlo)

330 Texas has a rainy day fund approaching $18 billion and no income taxes. I think they should either give some of it back or lower gas taxes.

Instead our goobers at the capital are funding a bunch of state pensions that were delinquent and such. How pious of them.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (XTiHL)

331
Memphis definitely has its problems.

But it blessed the world with Memphis blues and Memphis soul. Show some fucking gratitude, you Morons.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (6n67J)

332 Tennessee has a Constitutional requirement for the Governor and General Assembly to pass a balanced budget and they are not allowed to carry forward a deficit. (Article 2, Section 24 of the State Constitution)

In practice (in recent years) when there has been an surplus of sales tax collected the General Assembly and Governor have agreed to putting more money in the Rainy Day Fund as well as paying off additional debt/bonds held by the state. I think this is one of the reasons why Tennessee was ranked #1 for fiscal responsibility and stability and received AAA rating from all the major crediting bureaus.

Posted by: Nevyan at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (JeLfa)

333 291 282 Memphis is a Baltimore wantabe
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Race to the bottom, baby!
Posted by: Birmingham at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (sWM8x)

St Louis is already there, baby

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (rpxSz)

334 >>Went to a hippie wedding in Asheville last weekend and let's just say the Armenian wedding I went to years ago is no longer #1 on my list of Worst Weddings.


Was it a Genuine Non-Binary Wedding?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (qoXoX)

335 > Unlike most states, we didn't piss all the money from our windfall away.

Credit where it's due: this is almost entirely because of the genius of former Governor Jay Hammond (R.I.P.), who set things up so that a small percentage of the return (not the principal) of the Permanent Fund would be disbursed directly to the people as an annual check.

So far, that has ensured that any thieving politician who's tried to loot the Permanent Fund (and there have been several) has found himself out of office in short order.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (Ewo9R)

336 I'm up to my bloody eyeballs in skeptics!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (qoxBP)

337 I heard that one of the 2 Corky's BBQ shut down.

Sad.....I have a friend who's life was changed by that place.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

338 >>Facebook is showing it off. 110,000 in the stadium.


I bet it smells wonderful in there.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (qoXoX)

339 Tennessee doing well? Taylor Swift hardest hit.

Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (hvf9s)

340
What's the bad part of Memphis called?

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I love that joke.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

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I just saw it here for the first time and I loved it!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (VNdB4)

341 The good news for people in DFW area is your house will still be worth exactly what you paid for it 25 years ago.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (qoXoX)

Then your property taxes will also be about the same . Disputing your property appraisal is a legal specialty in Texas like divorce lawyers.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (2DOZq)

342 I was born in Tennessee. Still have family there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (q80AH)

343 Instead our goobers at the capital are funding a bunch of state pensions that were delinquent and such. How pious of them.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (XTiHL)

It's either that or the state pensions eventually eat all your money. Because of investment returns it is better to fund the pension funds than do most other things.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (qexAi)

344 I recently bailed out of Houston. Houston's pension debt is about equal to Texas' Rainy Day fund. Houston won't see a dime of it. As it should be.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (XTiHL)

345 Having come to meet many Armenians, I have become pretty sympathetic to the Turks.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (6/uwW)

346 >>Then your property taxes will also be about the same .


Your home ain't much of an investment though.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (qoXoX)

347
The good news for people in DFW area is your house will still be worth exactly what you paid for it 25 years ago.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (qoXoX)


Nope. Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

348 266 Wow, Obama's stock market is really taking a beating today!
Posted by: JoeF. at February 24, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)


LOL.

I've goofed on liberals by saying that this has been W's economy, but when it takes a downturn, then it's Obama's economy. Trump's economy won't kick in 2028.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (DXT9A)

349 But it blessed the world with Memphis blues and Memphis soul. Show some fucking gratitude, you Morons.

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That reminds me of accidentally driving down Rosa Parks Blvd in Montgomery recently. Bars on the windows, abandoned buildings, cars up on blocks, etc.

Congratulations, Ms. Parks. All those years later and look at how much they've accomplished.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (7KmXf)

350 340


What's the bad part of Memphis called?



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I love that joke.

Posted by: Moron Robbie



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I just saw it here for the first time and I loved it!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (VNdB4)

??? is that the 'Arkansas' punchline?

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (Orx/W)

351 He just likes to stir shit up.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:39 PM (qoXoX)


Sausage makes him velch

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (rpxSz)

352 Tennessee put the diagonal dashed line with asterisk into the genealogy toolbox.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (m45I2)

353 >>Nope. Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.


Awesome. My aunt and uncle moved down there in 87 and after my uncle passed in 2010 they had a net gain of under $3k.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (qoXoX)

354
Instead our goobers at the capital are funding a bunch of state pensions that were delinquent and such. How pious of them.
Posted by: DanMan

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We-hell, paying overdue bills seems like a legitimate priority to me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (VNdB4)

355
St Louis is already there, baby
Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:42 PM (rpxSz)

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St. Louis is WEIRD.

It's by-and-large a normal city, and pretty decent.

Except that NE section. And good Lord - NE St. Louis is so awful that it beggars belief. There's like a 30-block square in it that accounts for the large majority of city crime. And it's the urban version of a godforsaken blasted heath.

It's sad. It's like the city government looked at the "problem" area and just said "ya know what? Fuck it. Leave it to the animals."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (6n67J)

356 The good news for people in DFW area is your house will still be worth exactly what you paid for it 25 years ago.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (qoXoX)

Nope. Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.
Posted by: Sponge


Same here.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (Xr3y2)

357 331
Memphis definitely has its problems.

But it blessed the world with Memphis blues and Memphis soul. Show some fucking gratitude, you Morons.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice



ZZ Top agrees.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (vN4+Q)

358 It's almost as if the economy works when you don't tax the everloving fuck out of everything. Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: Boomer Redneque - Somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun at February 24, 2020 01:46 PM (KXHve)

359 "The entire government and economic system could be reset with a
structured sell-off of federal lands and the wealth lying beneath (and
above) over a reasonable period of time."


It's our one time get out of debtor jail free card but we won't be smart enough to to take advantage of it. We'll ride the debt train until it runs out of track. That will be an interesting day.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 24, 2020 01:46 PM (4thlk)

360 I used to spend a lot of time with the folks down in Oak Ridge. Nice scenery, easy to get lost on the back roads.

Posted by: jwest at February 24, 2020 01:46 PM (U6f/q)

361 Nope. Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.

I'm in NorCal... Our small house has quadrupled since we purchased it in 1998... Of course we have to live in CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:46 PM (6XlcD)

362 I heard that one of the 2 Corky's BBQ shut down.

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$5 says Obama ate there.

RIP 12 Bones in the Asheville area. Sh*tmidas strikes again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:46 PM (7KmXf)

363 Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:45 PM (qoXoX)

I want to run your Texas hate as commercials in the Northeast.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (2DOZq)

364
??? is that the 'Arkansas' punchline?
Posted by: Cannibal Blob

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See #324.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (VNdB4)

365 >>> What was bad about the Armenian wedding?
~~~~~

Well for starters, was nearly trampled to death when the buffet opened.

Posted by: IrishEi on tablet at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (XOGoM)

366 Nope. Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

That's a roughly 3.5% annual return. Can I interest you in some bank CDs?

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (qexAi)

367 >>I want to run your Texas hate as commercials in the Northeast.


Place is a shithole. Y'all can have it.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (qoXoX)

368 Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Sponge

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10

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (YslsA)

369 Guy from Tennessee says "wanna meet my sister and my wife?"

Other guy turns around and there's one girl there.


Or something like that.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM (Orx/W)

370 The good news for people in DFW area is your house will still be worth exactly what you paid for it 25 years ago.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (qoXoX)

Nope. Mine has nearly doubled in value in the last 20 years.
Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

Not so sure

My ex lives in our old house on White Rock Lake

it's at least doubled if not tripled

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM (rpxSz)

371 Memphis definitely has its problems.

But it blessed the world with Memphis blues and Memphis soul. Show some fucking gratitude, you Morons.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


One wrong music note is an error.
Two wrong notes = the blues.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM (Xr3y2)

372
Place is a shithole. Y'all can have it.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (qoXoX)


Yeah, it's not.

As with every state, it has it's shitholes, but Texas, as a whole, is no shithole.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM (Zz0t1)

373 >>> >>The tragic thing is that once the liberal locusts descend, the place never recovers. You'd think it would, after the locusts move on, but nope. Which is why the Northeast and upper Midwest still suffer from liberalism.
Bernie isn't from Vermont and Warren isn't from Massachusetts. It's like the Hotel California around here for leftists.Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2020 01:27 PM (ZLI7S)



True out West here too. To paraphrase someone from a previous thread today, don't Colorado my Utah!

Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM (hvf9s)

374 I'll see some Asheville news occasionally. It's always comical to watch the elderly 60s hippies who are in charge of the place fussing at the actions of the modern hippies who are questioning authority.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (7KmXf)

375 want to run your Texas hate as commercials in the Northeast.


Place is a shithole. Y'all can have it.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (qoXoX)

Thanks. I'll run that one the most.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (2DOZq)

376 See #324.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (VNdB4)

Aha...Memphis. Nice. ll.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (Orx/W)

377 >>As with every state, it has it's shitholes, but Texas, as a whole, is no shithole.


It's filled with Texans.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (qoXoX)

378 Okay, one of you northeast morons go up and see if ace needs to hydrate.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

379

It's filled with Texans.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (qoXoX)


Some of the nicest, most giving people on the planet.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

380 Place is a shithole. Y'all can have it.
Posted by: garrett

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Keep spreading the word. We're full anyway.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (YslsA)

381 Just moved to East Tennessee, for this reason largely, from Wyoming. When Wyoming has this same "problem", they got rid of the sales tax on groceries. It worked out.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (I701m)

382 When / If I retire, I am looking to moving to either Florida (State I was born in) or Texas.

Both have no State Income tax and both are gun friendly.

One thing I would look for is that I want to be close to the ocean. Of course it is a drawback during hurricane season.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (Oq/TM)

383 > The entire government and economic system could be reset with a
structured sell-off of federal lands and the wealth lying beneath (and
above) over a reasonable period of time.

It sure would be nice if, before that happens, the Feds actually conveyed most of its Alaskan lands to the State of Alaska, the same as was done in most of the other states (there are a few other western states in similar circumstances, but none to the outrageous degree that you see in Alaska).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (Ewo9R)

384 -
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One wrong music note is an error.

Two wrong notes = the blues.


Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM

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And all the wrong notes= jazz

Posted by: irright at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (pMGkg)

385 Asheville also has something like 8 storefronts of the same chain pot-smoking accessories shop in a single town. That's just the one chain, too. In a state, county, and city where pot is illegal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (7KmXf)

386 --

Keep spreading the word. We're full anyway.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (YslsA)


Longhorn out front should've told ya.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)

387 >>And all the notes= jazz

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:51 PM (qoXoX)

388
One wrong music note is an error.

Two wrong notes = the blues.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM (Xr3y2)

Lol. Fusion jazz. Fuck, fusion anything.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:51 PM (Orx/W)

389
377 >>As with every state, it has it's shitholes, but Texas, as a whole, is no shithole.


It's filled with Texans.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (qoXoX)

Heh. I think.

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:51 PM (90T4r)

390 377 >>As with every state, it has it's shitholes, but Texas, as a whole, is no shithole.


two years ago we took a road trip through Texas from one end to the other... Most is not too attractive, but it does have some pretty places.. Waco was nice..... We have history in my Family in Texas... My Great Grandfather drove the largest cattle drive on the Chisholm trail

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:51 PM (6XlcD)

391 Did the bride and groom feed each other a finger full of honey right out of the jar to symbolize the sweetness of their love? Talk about how gaming brought them together?
Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2020 01:41 PM (Y4EXg)
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Haha. No, but had to take vows at 2:22 on 2/22 for some reason. Vegan tapas and wine. Cambodia and Vietnam for honeymoon. Many man buns.

Posted by: IrishEi on tablet at February 24, 2020 01:51 PM (XOGoM)

392 > Both have no State Income tax and both are gun friendly.

Alaska wins big there, too.

No permit needed to carry concealed or openly, anywhere in the state.

There is a state concealed carry permit you can get, but that's only useful for reciprocity when visiting other states that recognize it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (Ewo9R)

393 Re: Tennessee

All true, but the major cities of Nashville and Memphis have all the requisite pathologies of other Big Blue cities. The Tennessee legislature periodically has to step in and stop both of those towns from committing ritual leftist seppuku. If those cities ever were to tip into a majority of the population, and they probably won't due to their many problems but still, Tennessee would become just another left-wing shithole overnight.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (puu6v)

394 [/] We-hell, paying overdue bills seems like a legitimate priority to me.

that part about the state employees was sarcasm, teachers, state police and most other state employees, especially long term ones do deserve their due, the big municipality employees that got bought for votes with outlandish pensions deserve what they got...promises from politicians.

When my neighbors voted recently to float a $1billion bond to sink into the Houston pensions I got the hell out of my home town. That was about 6% of the problem passed on to home owners. Just the beginning.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (XTiHL)

395 The thing I miss most about TX

#1 the people

#2 the food

#1 and #2 used to women but ya got to hang it up sometime

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (rpxSz)

396 299 Failfornia uses illegal alien tax accounting. More illegals...more taxes.
Posted by: torabora at February 24, 2020 01:37 PM (UVds0)


You mean more taxes on the gringos, I assume. You don't seriously think the illegal aliens pay taxes, do you?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:53 PM (DXT9A)

397 392
> Both have no State Income tax and both are gun friendly.



Alaska wins big there, too.



No permit needed to carry concealed or openly, anywhere in the state.



There is a state concealed carry permit you can get, but that's only
useful for reciprocity when visiting other states that recognize it.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (Ewo9R)

hello!

Posted by: Arizona at February 24, 2020 01:53 PM (Orx/W)

398 384 -
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One wrong music note is an error.

Two wrong notes = the blues.


Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2020 01:48 PM

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And all the wrong notes= jazz

Posted by: irright at February 24, 2020 01:50 PM (pMGkg)

Verified.

Fuck you, Charlie Parker

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:53 PM (l4C/z)

399 Have relatives in Texas. One is pretty decent, neutral guy. The other is an insufferable harpy bitch. Guess their politics?

Posted by: tubal at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (90T4r)

400 That was about 6% of the problem passed on to home owners. Just the beginning.
Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (XTiHL)


"See, now THAT'S how you stick it to the bourgeoisie!" /California

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (DXT9A)

401 No, but had to take vows at 2:22 on 2/22 for some reason.


*******

That's when the Moon is in the second house and Jupiter aligns with Mars

Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (m45I2)

402 >>Fuck you, Charlie Parker


Man. I haven't heard that since I was eating dinner with Jimmy D'aquisto!

That guy fucking hated Bird and Coltrane.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (qoXoX)

403 that part about the state employees was sarcasm, teachers, state police and most other state employees, especially long term ones do deserve their due, the big municipality employees that got bought for votes with outlandish pensions deserve what they got...promises from politicians.

When my neighbors voted recently to float a $1billion bond to sink into the Houston pensions I got the hell out of my home town. That was about 6% of the problem passed on to home owners. Just the beginning.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (XTiHL)

The pension liabilities could only be ended by bankruptcy(per the courts), which states cannot do per the Constitution iirc. Cities totally can though.

Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (qexAi)

404 What's wrong with jazz?

Posted by: SMH at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (RU4sa)

405 I'm a big fan of the program Aerial America sans the liberal commentary and have seen all of them. Sadly I have to admit Texas comes out as the least attractive of the states. It more than makes up for it in other areas though.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (2DOZq)

406 >>What's wrong with jazz?


Nothing at all.

But it is funny to mock the Free Jazz / Fusion stuff.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (qoXoX)

407 What's wrong with jazz?
Posted by: SMH at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (RU4sa)


Haters gonna hate.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

408 Alaska wins big there, too.

No permit needed to carry concealed or openly, anywhere in the state.

There is a state concealed carry permit you can get, but that's only useful for reciprocity when visiting other states that recognize it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (Ewo9R)

One drawback to Alaska, it gets a tad chilly there. I am done with winter, I want nice weather and to be able to move all my limbs and not have to turn my whole body to see if something is next to me. LOL

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (Oq/TM)

409 >>> When Wyoming has this same "problem", they got rid of the sales tax on groceries. It worked out.

Utah republican legislature for some reason is wanting to tax more, and just voted in a huge food tax, and there was so much uproar I think they rescinded it. Was hugely controversial and a stupid move. It might come back to haunt them bigly in the fall elections. The democrats are trying to use it to build momentum that we need a change to clean house.

Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (hvf9s)

410 404
What's wrong with jazz?

Posted by: SMH at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (RU4sa)

or blues?

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (Orx/W)

411 want to run your Texas hate as commercials in the Northeast.


Place is a shithole. Y'all can have it.
Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:47 PM (qoXoX)

Thanks. I'll run that one the most.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (2DOZq)

HAHA.


Reminds me of e Bloomberg's folksy Texas "ad" from last month-

"If I were in Texas Id say Trump is as scared as a cat in a dog pound."


What a fool.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

412 What surprised me most about Memphis is what a shitty part of town Graceland is in.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (prSvo)

413 What surprised me most about Memphis is what a shitty part of town Graceland is in.

--

Hold my beer.

- Tupelo

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (7KmXf)

414 >>Thanks. I'll run that one the most.

I am all for it. People should know.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (qoXoX)

415 What's wrong with jazz?
Posted by: SMH at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (RU4sa)

Haters gonna hate.
Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)


The biggest selling jazz albums are from the 50's and 60's. that tells you the state of random not sax jazz.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (aS1PU)

416 Reminds me of e Bloomberg's folksy Texas "ad" from last month-

"If I were in Texas Id say Trump is as scared as a cat in a dog pound."


What a fool.
Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2020 01:55 PM (Ed8Zd)


Along the lines of "I'm gonna go n git me a beer."

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

417 So, I've been thinking: What Democrat is going to throw their careers on the Bernie Pyre as VP candidate?

I mean, the few remaining rational Dems won't go near him with a 10-foot pole--so there's no one who could expand his appeal in the general.

Meaning: Just how crazy of a crazy will be the Dem who finally says "yes?"

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (vPKfA)

418 random note

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (aS1PU)

419 What's wrong with jazz?

I love that joke.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (QrTqV)

420 I need a literary agent...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (q80AH)

421
The biggest selling jazz albums are from the 50's and 60's. that tells you the state of random not sax jazz.
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (aS1PU)


Well, most music sucks nowadays, so.....

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

422 417 So, I've been thinking: What Democrat is going to throw their careers on the Bernie Pyre as VP candidate?

But the "polls" say Bernie beats trump!

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (6XlcD)

423 342 I was born in Tennessee. Still have family there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (q80AH)

You were a poor black child?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (l4C/z)

424 What's wrong with jazz?
-
I love that joke.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (QrTqV)

--

Ha. Well played.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (7KmXf)

425 I need a literary agent...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (q80AH)


Where's that AoS Official Author guy?

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

426 The biggest selling jazz albums are from the 50's and 60's. that tells you the state of random not sax jazz.
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (aS1PU)

Well, most music sucks nowadays, so.....
Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)


BAM!

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (aS1PU)

427
Memphis soul is one the best things to happen to music since the Germans and Austrians were doing their thing hundreds of years ago. Seriously, people will still be listening to it hundreds of years from now. I won't be around to collect, but I'd bet on it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (6n67J)

428 Well, most music sucks nowadays, so.....

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

Wooo boy....here it is.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (Orx/W)

429 423 342 I was born in Tennessee. Still have family there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:43 PM (q80AH)

You were a poor black child?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (l4C/z)

==========

I was a rich Indian woman, but then things went squiffy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (q80AH)

430 Meaning: Just how crazy of a crazy will be the Dem who finally says "yes?"
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (vPKfA)

I can think of one twice loser who would.

Can't imagine Bernie being THAT crazy to pick her though.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (ayFCE)

431
Along the lines of "I'm gonna go n git me a beer."
Posted by: Sponge

======

All cattle. And no. Hat.

Posted by: Folksy Chuck Schumer at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (VNdB4)

432 I like "Take the A train." Is that Jazz?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (6XlcD)

433 Wooo boy....here it is.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 01:57 PM (Orx/W)


I'm wrong?

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)

434 We made a stop at Graceland and what struck me is his house was about the size our family home Sharpstown.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (XTiHL)

435 420 I need a literary agent...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (q80AH)

Start going to big genre conventions, hang out in the bars, buy drink for people NOT in cosplay.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (l4C/z)

436 435 420 I need a literary agent...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:56 PM (q80AH)

Start going to big genre conventions, hang out in the bars, buy drink for people NOT in cosplay.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (l4C/z)

=========

I've heard worse ideas like: "Reach out to people through their submission guidelines on their websites."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (q80AH)

437 Oh and the best way to get an Agent?

Act like you don't need an agent. Desperation is a stinky cologne, or so I was told.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (l4C/z)

438 I like jazz and I like the blues (especially the blues played by Stevie Ray Vaughn).
I also like classical music, Prog Rock, Metal, Death Metal, Symphonic Metal.

I just do not tolerate rap or hip hop.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (Oq/TM)

439 >>I like "Take the A train." Is that Jazz?


Yes. Strayhorn/Ellington I think.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (qoXoX)

440 Flying out tomorrow to Nashville for a convention. Can't wait to get some Nashville hot chicken.


Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 24, 2020 01:11 PM (7Dv7r)

if you have the time, there's only one place to get it.

Prince's

the best Nashville hot chicken there is.

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (8D42x)

441 Start going to big genre conventions, hang out in the bars, buy drink for people NOT in cosplay.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 24, 2020 01:59 PM (l4C/z)

Well, unless they're chicks with big tits.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

442 I'm still unclear on how voters are supposed to say "you know, this economy is awesome and I'm making money hand over fist, but I want to give this new guy a chance to put some massive regulations in place to slow everything down."

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (7KmXf)

443 I'm going through lists of agents, and I'm outright excluding women.

Why?

Because literally every woman agent says that they are looking for "underrepresented voices". ie Not white guys.

I'm not even bothering.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (q80AH)

444 >>> I can think of one twice loser who would. Can't imagine Bernie being THAT crazy to pick her though.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (ayFCE)

Some in the media are trying to make Stacey Abrams as THE top VP pick a thing, and I don't get it.

He picks Shrillary, might as well sign his death certificate now.

Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (hvf9s)

445 Well, unless they're chicks with big tits.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (NWiLs)


SOLD!

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

446 I'm wrong?

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)

You're not sucking me into that. Lol. I like ukulele music. so there's that.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (Orx/W)

447 Utah republican legislature for some reason is wanting to tax more, and just voted in a huge food tax, and there was so much uproar I think they rescinded it. Was hugely controversial and a stupid move. It might come back to haunt them bigly in the fall elections. The democrats are trying to use it to build momentum that we need a change to clean house.

Wyoming's food tax was repealed by our Democrat Governor, Dave. It's a different place. Anyway, I moved to East Tennessee because I was tired of having to walk with a 30 degree list all winter.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (I701m)

448 You folks know that Mother Earth News was based in Asheville, right? Don't know if it still is, but that's where the hippies originally came from.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (JKNZq)

449
He picks Shrillary, might as well sign his death certificate now.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (hvf9s)


She fucked Bernie once and he liked it.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

450 442 I'm still unclear on how voters are supposed to say "you know, this economy is awesome and I'm making money hand over fist, but I want to give this new guy a chance to put some massive regulations in place to slow everything down."
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (7KmXf)

Hatred. I can't imagine the rest of the country buying in, but liberalism is built on hatred.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (ayFCE)

451 443 I'm going through lists of agents, and I'm outright excluding women.

Why?

Because literally every woman agent says that they are looking for "underrepresented voices". ie Not white guys.

I'm not even bothering.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (q80AH)

Tell them you're transitioning.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

452 I love Graceland because I can sort of relate to it. If I suddenly became a billionaire I guarantee I'd start doing stupid sh*t like hiring people to build 1:1 scale models of famous landmarks out of styrofoam.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (7KmXf)

453 Pictures of people collapsing in public being attended to by people in hazmat suits in Seoul. Just like in Wuhan.

https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/ f8v82f/people_collapsing_on_streets_in_seoul_just_like/

Just the cold or the flu though.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (frty6)

454 You're not sucking me into that. Lol. I like ukulele music. so there's that.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (Orx/W)


I'm a fan of Seasick Steve, so my range runs wide.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

455
Utah republican legislature for some reason is wanting to tax more, and just voted in a huge food tax, and there was so much uproar I think they rescinded it. Was hugely controversial and a stupid move. It might come back to haunt them bigly in the fall elections. The democrats are trying to use it to build momentum that we need a change to clean house.

--------

A huge food tax for a population with a religious imperative to horde food?

Two problems, here.

1.) They have huge stockpiles of food already.

2.) It will enrage them if they're forced to cut into them.

UT Republicans are sure smart.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 02:02 PM (6n67J)

456 451 Because literally every woman agent says that they are looking for "underrepresented voices". ie Not white guys.

I'm not even bothering.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (q80AH)

Tell them you're transitioning.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

=========

Dolley has suggested this.

But then my books aren't about the evils of the Western World, so I think they'd see through the ruse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 02:02 PM (q80AH)

457 What's wrong with jazz?


*******

A hypersexualized transgendered minor YouTube celebrity?

Pretty much everything.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2020 02:02 PM (m45I2)

458 I like ukulele music. so there's that.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (Orx/W)

So you actually listen to Tiny Tim? O.o

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 02:03 PM (Oq/TM)

459 Hypersex? Is that like when you do it real fast?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 24, 2020 02:03 PM (xfb67)

460 T for Texas, T for Tennessee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v73HT4CjLpk

Posted by: Slim at February 24, 2020 02:03 PM (FFsBN)

461 So you actually listen to Tiny Tim? O.o
Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 02:03 PM (Oq/TM)


Santa Clause has got the AIDS this year.

He won't be spreading any Christmas cheer.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

462 Because literally every woman agent says that they are looking for "underrepresented voices". ie Not white guys.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (q80AH)

--

I've read where this is a huge problem in the industry these days, which is partly why self-publishing took off like it did.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (7KmXf)

463 Bernie + THE TANK!!!

I GAUR-AN-TEE!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (3rpCw)

464 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (ayFCE)

465 I'm a fan of Seasick Steve, so my range runs wide.

Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

huh. thanks. i'll try that on the Ukulele.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (Orx/W)

466 "Take the A Train" is a swing era dance hit.
I wouldn't call it jazz, really.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (w7KSn)

467 my wife will move to florida. i will move to eastern wyoming. i'm funny that way. q

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (KP5rU)

468 I'm wrong?
Posted by: Sponge at February 24, 2020 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)


No.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (0CeRG)

469 462 Because literally every woman agent says that they are looking for "underrepresented voices". ie Not white guys.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (q80AH)

--

I've read where this is a huge problem in the industry these days, which is partly why self-publishing took off like it did.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:04 PM (7KmXf)

It's a huge problem everywhere. They're looking to check diversity boxes moreso than draw talent.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (NWiLs)

470 "Tennessee Stud" posted by Christopher R. Taylor

Thank you!

Posted by: creeper at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (XxJt1)

471 Jazz is the one true purely American musical form.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (3rpCw)

472 How is Appalachian pronounced--is it appalayshun or appalatchian?

Depends...are you native...or a furineer?

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (k56WI)

473 UT Republicans are sure smart.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 24, 2020 02:02 PM (6n67J)

Ummm, they elected Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (Oq/TM)

474 Literary agent - a tick with pretensions

Not necessarily hang out at the bar at cons. If there are author panels with names like Jody Lynn Nye or John Ringo go attend them. Chat up the panel with good questions and see where it goes.

Though if you get sucked into a late night hanging out with John Ringo prepare to be bombasted to death by his self proclaimed smarts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (I7upL)

475 So you actually listen to Tiny Tim? O.o

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 24, 2020 02:03 PM (Oq/TM)

nah. I like music i like, just on the ukulele. like blues, and oldies.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 24, 2020 02:05 PM (Orx/W)

476 nood

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:06 PM (7KmXf)

477 >>Jazz is the one true purely American musical form.


This. It's like Baseball.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 02:06 PM (qoXoX)

478 >>> Wyoming's food tax was repealed by our Democrat Governor, Dave. It's a different place. Anyway, I moved to East Tennessee because I was tired of having to walk with a 30 degree list all winter.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (I701m)

I like our governor, but he was pushing this stupid food tax bill. He's not running again so I think he thought he could push it with no repercussions. Is rightfully getting smacked down for it.

https://tinyurl.com/tvfudpv

Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2020 02:06 PM (hvf9s)

479 I'm still unclear on how voters are supposed to say "you know, this economy is awesome and I'm making money hand over fist, but I want to give this new guy a chance to put some massive regulations in place to slow everything down."
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (7KmXf)
+++++++++++++
Complacency and ignorance.

"Things are great and we have more money and we can afford to be 'nicer' to people. This guy is promising to be 'nicer.' I have already forgotten how badly this went last time. I'll give him a chance. We should all be 'nicer' when we can afford it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 02:06 PM (I2dne)

480
When my neighbors voted recently to float a $1billion bond to sink into the Houston pensions I got the hell out of my home town. That was about 6% of the problem passed on to home owners. Just the beginning.

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2020 01:52 PM (XTiHL)

The pension liabilities could only be ended by bankruptcy(per the courts), which states cannot do per the Constitution iirc. Cities totally can though.
Posted by: Someguy at February 24, 2020 01:54 PM (qexAi)

I've never understood the rationale behind bonds.

Unless it is for an actual emergency where you need cash RIGHT NOW, it adds to the cost of the project.

Even a 3% interest rate over 10 years, adds 30% to the cost of the project (simple interest).

So unless you are banking on at least 3% inflation per year, how does that make sense?

Oh, wait, forgot, who really wins? Banks.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2020 02:06 PM (NgKpN)

481 Huh. I never thought about that. So where did bluegrass come from?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:07 PM (7KmXf)

482 How's the wakesurfing at Center Hill Lake? What TN lake is best for that? I looked on the Cumberland river lakes but the water seems a little muddy. Tennessee River is clear but the best parts seem to be in Alabama.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 02:07 PM (qAyxA)

483 Bluegrass is from Scots - Irish balladeer tradition.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 24, 2020 02:10 PM (w7KSn)

484 It's filled with Texans.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2020 01:49 PM (qoXoX)


Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Posted by: Slim at February 24, 2020 02:10 PM (FFsBN)

485 Huh. I never thought about that. So where did bluegrass come from?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:07 PM (7KmXf)
++++++++++
East TN, or at least it's big there.

Each of the "Three Tennesses" has its own musical tradition:
East: Bluegrass and banjo-heavy "country" (Knoxville, Chattanooga)
Middle: Rock 'n Roll and "country" (Nashville)
East: Blues and Soul (Memphis)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 24, 2020 02:10 PM (I2dne)

486 Tennessee is great but my impression is that SC has better lakes. Anyone here know about Center Hill Lake? If you go down near Decatur AL you see some really nice Tenn river lakes.
Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 01:09 PM (qAyxA)

I do. My parents live just across the bridge from Sligo Marina. It's an old TVA lake. Big - 60-70 miles of winding shoreline. Very clean. Shoreline can't be built on, so except for the few grandfathered properties that have been there forever, nothing on the lake but marina's, boats, and beaches. Fishing is great but different than what you're used to if you're used to shallow lakes. At Center Hill you use Texas rigs to pull them off of canyon walls between 40-60' deep. And Nashville sucks. Stop moving here. Pick somewhere else. *looks left* *looks right*

Posted by: Abiss at February 24, 2020 02:11 PM (Y8DtA)

487 This is becawwse Tennesee ranks LAST IN THE NATION in drag queen story hour participation!

This type of backwards, anti-progressive State action balances its budget on an agenda of HATE!

Posted by: Andrew Most-Progessive-State-In-the-Nation COOWOMO !! at February 24, 2020 02:11 PM (koNhm)

488 Hatred. I can't imagine the rest of the country buying in, but liberalism is built on hatred.
=====
Envy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2020 02:11 PM (MIKMs)

489 479 I'm still unclear on how voters are supposed to say "you know, this economy is awesome and I'm making money hand over fist, but I want to give this new guy a chance to put some massive regulations in place to slow everything down."
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 24, 2020 02:00 PM (7KmXf)
+++++++++++++


Vote for New Guy
I'll fix this economy for good.

Posted by: New Guy at February 24, 2020 02:16 PM (FFsBN)

490 Is there anything in TN comparable to Lake Keowee in SC or even Lake James in in NC for homesites?

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 02:18 PM (qAyxA)

491
Had a fun night in a Memphis club across from BB's place(closed).Hot waitress and amazing brother act.Got approached by some skeezers at 1a.m.
Hotel was locked down like Fort Knox.
Elvis had definitely left his building on our visit and was just 20 feet out and six feet under in his backyard by the coy pond.Don't be coy roy.
no hurries to go back.

Posted by: saf at February 24, 2020 02:30 PM (5IHGB)

492 Is there anything in TN comparable to Lake Keowee in SC or even Lake James in in NC for homesites?
Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 02:18 PM (qAyxA)

Watts Barr in E TN, and Tims Ford in Mid-T. Haven't been to Watts, but Tims Ford is lovely. Shallow, big, good fishing.

Posted by: Abiss at February 24, 2020 02:38 PM (Y8DtA)

493 480

I've never understood the rationale behind bonds.



Unless it is for an actual emergency where you need cash RIGHT NOW, it adds to the cost of the project.

They're for the same purpose as all the other stupid-seeming things politicians do -- to get credit for the benefits of spending, while kicking the can down the road long enough that you're no longer in office when we have to pay for it.

Posted by: jdgalt1 at February 24, 2020 03:19 PM (3SFo/)

494 Tim's Ford looks interesting. It's halfway to Chattanooga from Nashville. I looked around Gallatin but found Old Hickory Lake a little muddy and crowded. I suppose you have to go up in altitude a little to get the cleaner water.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 03:23 PM (qAyxA)

495 Maybe they should try to get better schools?

Posted by: Kurt at February 24, 2020 03:30 PM (pMTqW)

496
"I've never understood the rationale behind bonds.

Unless it is for an actual emergency where you need cash RIGHT NOW, it adds to the cost of the project.

They're for the same purpose as all the other stupid-seeming things politicians do -- to get credit for the benefits of spending, while kicking the can down the road long enough that you're no longer in office when we have to pay for it."

It actually sounds like you understand the rationale perfectly.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 03:34 PM (qAyxA)

497 Tennessee does have an investment income tax, although that is being phased out. That probably accounts for a bit of it.

Posted by: Matt Harris at February 24, 2020 03:40 PM (4O3Yu)

498 474, John's not that bad. He's also mellowed a lot in the last five years.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at February 24, 2020 04:12 PM (rGgyS)

499 I also went back and looked- the only Corky's location in Memphis I can find that closed was the one at the airport, which is good. One, Memphis Airport dried up and blew away when Northwest Airlines was bought out, two, that one didn't cook on site and brought the ribs in from elsewhere. They were reportedly fucking terrible. I wouldn't know, I haven't used Memphis Airport in most of 25 years.

Then again most airport locations of "famous local chains" are terrible. Phillip's Seafood at BWI sucks. The Orchid or Whitt's Barbecue at Nashville are both awful, but Whitt's is lousy anyway. The only exception I ever found was the Pappadeaux Seafood at Houston Hobby Airport. Just as good as any of the others I have eaten in.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at February 24, 2020 04:18 PM (rGgyS)

500 We were both raised in TN (I was born here). We met, married in Ga (on the Coast) and lived in ATL for 22+ yrs. We miss it but the Taxes (ATL Metro/State) drove us back to TN. We miss Ga so much but the above article is so typical of the Politicians there being in love with OPM.
There was a Toll Road built 25+ yrs ago going out of ATL North. Growth exploded along that road as people wanted a fast way to get OUT of the City proper (taxes). ATL proper actually had 3 large, prosperous Neighborhoods petition the State to separate from the City and become new Cities. They were granted that right. It destroyed ATL tax base--answer? Raise Taxes!
TN isnt paradise (we live in Nashville and it is quickly becoming little ATL/Detroit due to yrs of Dem Progressive Mayors who LUV Illegals but fiscally it is much better for us to be here than Ga at this point.
The good problem with TN and the revenue is the absurd discussion about how to return it to we Taxpayers. How about getting RID of the Gas Tax increase FORCED thru in the final days of the Haslam Admin? Nope--let's do things that are phony and brag about how we are giving them back their $ (Food Tax "Holidays")

Posted by: Ellbee at February 24, 2020 04:24 PM (yj+ui)

501 It's my understanding that the Hall tax on interest and dividends is phased out this year.

Posted by: James OBrien at February 24, 2020 04:40 PM (qAyxA)

502 re:Tennessee

As a 7th generation Tennessean, thank you for those kind words.

And to every Yankee who chortled when I said I was from Tennessee.....suck it.

Posted by: Specto at February 24, 2020 06:12 PM (IbeKg)

503 Apparently TN taxes all groceries (very few other states do). A great place for the pols to start a rebate would be scrapping that tax.

Here in FL only a few groceries are taxed:
* candy* chips* soft drinks* Gatorade and other sports drinks
Also, IMHO the 1st priority should be paying down state debt (reducing interest costs).

Posted by: ZenitFan at February 24, 2020 09:21 PM (HBD09)

504 Don't be fooled by those sleepy small towns in Tennessee, there's a lot going on behind the scenes.

Posted by: mike at February 24, 2020 09:28 PM (fo9Xt)

505 conservatism ,works every time it is tried

Posted by: archie curtis at February 24, 2020 11:09 PM (vIrJb)

506 It is necessary to understand that lawful registered
nurse consulting does not need a lawful education.
In this way, lawful nurse consulting is really various from the job of paralegals, that are required to research legislation. As opposed to
studying regulation, these nurses will generally attend lawful
seminars, especially those pertaining to medico-legal information.

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