Forewoman of Roger Stone Jury Criticizes Trump In FaceBook Post;
People Discover She Has Long Been a Rabidly Anti-Trump, Anti-Republican Zealot Who Ran for Congress as a Democrat and Tweeted About Stone Before the Trial

This conviction will have to be thrown out. This woman is obviously biased beyond any capability of dispassionate evaluation. And she wasn't just a juror, but the jury foreman, so she probably influenced the other jurors.

And also, it seems highly likely she lied in the voir dire process of weeding out biased jurors to get on the jury.

he jury foreman on the Roger Stone trial came forward on social media Wednesday to defend the four prosecutors who withdrew from the case after the Department of Justice overruled their excessive sentencing recommendation.

A Facebook post written by Tomeka Hart, the senior program officer for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, was picked up by multiple news outlets. But the reports left out some highly pertinent details about her background--namely that Hart is a hyperpartisan Democratic Party activist who is rabidly anti-Trump and a Russia-collusion truther.

In this tweet, for example, she retweets someone laughing at Roger Stone for complaining about his excessive-force arrest. See, a White Man has no right to complain about that...!

She was/is OBSESSED with following the CNN/MSNBC Deep State Soap Opera.

Read the whole thing.

By the way: When she realized people were finding her most floridly lunatic conspiracy tweets, she began deleting huge swaths of her social media history.

Who knows which tweets we missed because she had made sure to delete them in the first few minutes after being caught.

Unbiased Update: Chuck Ross finds this one:

Her Twitter feed shows dozens of references to Trump, many of them links to negative stories about the Republican. In a Twitter post on Aug. 19, 2017, Hart quoted a tweet referring to Trump as the "#KlanPresident," in an apparent reference to the KKK.

This one's good, too.

Update: Apparently one juror did admit to being a partisan Democrat and to having "negative feelings" about Trump.

The judge refused Stone's lawyer's request to excuse her for cause.

That would probably explain how this incredibly biased forewoman was never struck.

Correction: I thought this must be the same biased Democrat juror, but a friend tells me: no, that's another biased partisan Democrat the judge allowed on the jury.

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1 first

Posted by: A dude in MI at February 13, 2020 12:09 PM (/6GbT)

2 grey

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 13, 2020 12:10 PM (d7Ww2)

3 This is third world bullshit.

Throw out this whole case.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 13, 2020 12:10 PM (jUVms)

4 how do these motherfuckers keep getting away with this bullshit? for crying out loud, I want to see heads roll

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 13, 2020 12:11 PM (d7Ww2)

5 Hmm. Grey and boxy. Like East Germany in ye olden times.

Anyhow, this is why permanent juries are a bad idea. They, too, will be politicized.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at February 13, 2020 12:11 PM (xptlg)

6 alas.

Posted by: eleven at February 13, 2020 12:12 PM (QLPEO)

7 yo

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at February 13, 2020 12:12 PM (NiFkv)

8 7 yo

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at February 13, 2020 12:12 PM (NiFkv)
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yo-yo

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (xptlg)

9 She did this with full approval of the judge, who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.

Posted by: thirteen28 at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (AbmsP)

10 and, also YO-GO, if you're a fan of 70's toys. . .

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (xptlg)

11 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (zZbCU)

12
All these assholes will get their just due........never.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (88+cf)

13 "...complete bullshit..." was highly accurate.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (x6XkS)

14 We all know nothing will happen

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (6XlcD)

15 Also, Lisa Page is a dirty whore.

Posted by: thirteen28 at February 13, 2020 12:13 PM (AbmsP)

16 Methinks Ace has joined the Gray Panthers.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 13, 2020 12:14 PM (pPNCa)

17 Looks like a gray area.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at February 13, 2020 12:14 PM (FAmMc)

18 On that Roger Stone juror -

Of the utmost importance will be her responses to these juror questions on:

(1) Social media and the Mueller investigation

(2) Running for office

If she answered in the negative... things will get interesting.


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And if she said yes, but the judge let her stay...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 13, 2020 12:14 PM (zZbCU)

19 This is third world bullshit.

Throw out this whole case.
Posted by: Seems Legit


oh yeah. This case is toast.

Posted by: eleven at February 13, 2020 12:14 PM (QLPEO)

20 9 She did this with full approval of the judge, who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.

If only

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:14 PM (6XlcD)

21 seriously, when is someone going to just start firing all these bastards, hang them and hit the reset button

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (d7Ww2)

22 Hang the bitch (metaphorically).

PDT better come down on this like the wrath from God. Shit like this needs to be punished with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (Ki5SV)

23 Prosecutors and the Judge had to know about this.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (9N8Q0)

24 Huh. Seem to recall a John Cusack movie about doing this --- an activist working to get on a jury to make sure his target bad guy corporation (tobacco or gun company) was successfully convicted. Runaway Jury?

At this point, it would not surprise me if she was planted on that jury by the Democrats/Team Coup. They've been doing planted man on the street and townhall people for decades.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (bDqIh)

25 Too many kidneys, not enough knives.

Can any of our Latin scholars render this? I'm thinking of making this the motto of my house.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 13, 2020 12:16 PM (d6mdH)

26 There shall be heard naught but crickets in the 'news' media.

Posted by: davidt at February 13, 2020 12:16 PM (l3+k2)

27 looks like "June Gloom" came early this year...

nice!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 13, 2020 12:16 PM (qlOg+)

28 PDT better come down on this like the wrath from God. Shit like this needs to be punished with extreme prejudice.

He's trying... Because he said something about the Stone case they are calling for new impeachment... Oh... And SanFranNan says Barr should resign or be impeached... This is where we are...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:16 PM (6XlcD)

29 22 Hang the bitch (metaphorically).

PDT better come down on this like the wrath from God. Shit like this needs to be punished with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (Ki5SV)

As someone with no legal background, what legal recourse does he have (not implying he doesn't have any, just don't know what he does)?

Posted by: Allie at February 13, 2020 12:16 PM (UnA8+)

30 Mark Stein talking about this now on Rush's show.

They SHOULD throw it out, but will they? Would save Trump having to use the pardon warhammer for Stone.

Posted by: LizLem at February 13, 2020 12:16 PM (hvf9s)

31 Flynn is having the same crap problem

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (VjHOE)

32 She just queered the entire trial. Stupid is as stupid does, TDS is a powerful influence in a weak mind.

FREE ROGER!

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (x004x)

33 Jury forewoman, judge, et al as rabid TDS sufferers. What difference at this point does it make?

Posted by: henry at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (J3Rfi)

34 Yep, this is Mistrial territory.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (Kpl3J)

35 I bet she didn't have to do anything to be "put" on this jury, much less lie, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Advo at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (ekVHT)

36
This is third world bullshit.

Throw out this whole case.
Posted by: Seems Legit


We are all turd world now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (aKsyK)

37 Haze Gray and the thread is under way..

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (qlOg+)

38 Not sure how this works, but how does Stone get the case thrown out? Do they appeal to the same judge who allowed this juror in the first place?

Posted by: Josephistan at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (Md8yM)

39 When termites have infested your whole house, it's best to burn it down and start over.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (88+cf)

40 Fredo totoally politicized Justice, FBI, IRS and things like this. They made us out to be evil deplorables and let people like this jury forewoman loose to wreck havack

Fuck them all and if we do not fight back, we deserve what we get

Oh and that sctunt judge berman will not care

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (nRk/c)

41 What a shit show.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (KNsKs)

42 34 Yep, this is Mistrial territory.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (Kpl3J)

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That will be a hilarious end to this saga.

And the activist left will try to make a huge deal out of it, and everyone else will say, "Who?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (zZbCU)

43 35 I bet she didn't have to do anything to be "put" on this jury, much less lie, IYKWIMAITYD.

I read Stones Lawyers objected to this witness, and many others , and the Judge refused

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (6XlcD)

44 It would be refreshing if a single person was ever actually punished for any of their startlingly criminal behavior as part of The Resistance.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (zlgJP)

45 That "Think about that" line in her tweet: OK, I thought about it and I have no idea what she or the other dude means by that.

But calling a SWAT team on him in the early morning hours with TV crew in tow sounds kinda hinkey for a mere process crime. How many other people charged with that offense were arrested in that fashion?

Only him?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (HaL55)

46 43 35 I bet she didn't have to do anything to be "put" on this jury, much less lie, IYKWIMAITYD.

I read Stones Lawyers objected to this witness, and many others , and the Judge refused
Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (6XlcD)

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Because there's no such thing as Obama judges.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 13, 2020 12:18 PM (zZbCU)

47 She had to have lied on those forms. Stone's lawyers would have never let her on the jury if she was truthful.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (so+oy)

48 Won't matter to the Professional Conz.

"Process! Rool Of LAH~! NOrmz!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (ILS6+)

49 Nobody called NOOD. I think I should get promoted for figuring it out.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (QzF6i)

50 Give her the Process.

Make her lose her house.

Make her wish to never be born.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (wYKCM)

51 Who/What is the judge?

Posted by: davidt at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (l3+k2)

52 47 She had to have lied on those forms. Stone's lawyers would have never let her on the jury if she was truthful.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (so+oy)

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They objected and wanted her gone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (zZbCU)

53 What in the actual fuck were Stone's attorney's doing? This is borderline malpractice.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (9CkBG)

54 White comment boxes are racist.

Posted by: Biergood at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (yb6r+)

55 FREE HAT!

Posted by: Stan Marsh at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (FAmMc)

56 Lying in voir dire is perjury, right?

Oh well. She'll be fine. At worse she gets a wrist-slap and a book deal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (I2dne)

57 There's way too many witches to burn.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM (vEIlU)

58 Who/What is the judge?
Posted by: davidt at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (l3+k2)

Berman
Amy Berman I blieve

Every ruling has been for the swamp

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM (nRk/c)

59 44 It would be refreshing if a single person was ever actually punished for any of their startlingly criminal behavior as part of The Resistance.

I'm starting to lose any hope that will happen. We're now to believe that Durham will be our "hero" and arrest them all....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM (6XlcD)

60 Good thing I don't pin my hopes on seeing justice in this world.

Posted by: SMH at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM (RU4sa)

61 I am Grey.
I stand between the candle and the star.
We are Grey.
We stand between the darkness and the light.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM (jW9oF)

62 53 What in the actual fuck were Stone's attorney's doing? This is borderline malpractice.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (9CkBG)

Getting told by the Judge "LOLGF", apparently.

When the Left wants to railroad you...

Posted by: Allie at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM (UnA8+)

63 I wonder, how many of the jurors made up their minds after being berated by this biased forewoman?
But Trump needs to be quiet because you give up your right to free speech when you steal the presidency from Hillary.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (4a9Vv)

64 We are gray; we live between a post and a comment...

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (RD7QR)

65 So the Resistance's plan from the get go (gin up mass hysteria about Trump to taint future jury pools) would have worked if this person had scrubbed her social media.

Posted by: El Kabong at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (datdl)

66 The judge needs to be impeached.
Fuck them with their own rules.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (ufFY8)

67 a question from the last thread:

509 The part that puzzles me is that a modern incarnation of the ERA may be an excellent across the board move for the Democrats. It would get them a lot of wine mom support etc. Not sure why they are fixated on the old proposal.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (JRaU+)"

Because you have to get 66 votes in the Senate to pass a new amendment, and they realize there is no chance of that. So the old one is their only hope.

The WaPo and other outlets are acting like what the House passed today means something - but unless the Senate also passes it, it means nothing, and I do not think McConnell will even allow it to come to a vote. Suppose they do, Trump can always veto it like he's going to veto the silly war powers resolution they passed yesterday.

And Ginsburg already said the old ERA is dead, it expired. They can't bring it back from the grave, and there is at least a 7-2 SCOTUS vote against them if they try to push it that far. (but I doubt they will)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (Kpl3J)

68 we are still too close to the precipice . . . there need to be consequences, good and hard, to bring it all back from that drop

Posted by: Bored383 at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (zJ4nO)

69 >>Amy Berman I blieve


She needs to be removed. Fucking liberal scrunt.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (9N8Q0)

70 Feature, not bug.

Seriously lawyers need to have a social media check done on jurors these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

71 Only one shade of gray? Ace is holding out on us.

Posted by: henry at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (J3Rfi)

72 Was she elected foreman by the other jurors, or assigned by the judge?

Posted by: davidt at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (l3+k2)

73 I have decided to live my life as a grey man.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (pw+jk)

74 Amy Berman Jackson is a Fredo Appointee

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (nRk/c)

75 If she answered in the negative... things will get interesting.

And if she answered in the positive, ineffective assistance of counsel . . . ?

Posted by: One-eyed cat peepin' in the seafood store at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (/sTHK)

76 Between Stone and Gen. Flynn, I'm starting to think these FBI folks may not be on the "up and up"...

Posted by: pahound at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (CCGGT)

77 We saw how well the judge in the Manafort case dealt with what was obviously prosecutorial misconduct. A little but of chest puffing and that's it. Should have been thrown out.

Our legal system really is so screwed, and just remember, all of this is happening in Trump's/Barr's DOJ.

Imagine what happens when Dems get control again.

Posted by: Blago at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (sjTfF)

78 65 So the Resistance's plan from the get go (gin up mass hysteria about Trump to taint future jury pools) would have worked if this person had scrubbed her social media.

That and not writing an editorial for the WaPo defending the Attorneys who "quit."

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (6XlcD)

79 I believe per people that were in the court the day of jury selection that Stones attorneys protested at least 3 jurors that the judge ignored and allowed to proceed.


Ultimately its going to come down to the Obama appointed judge being in on it.

Posted by: H Badger at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (n/0Nw)

80 LOCK HER UP!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (EGSGm)

81 Michael Caputo, another target of Mueller's:
@MichaelRcaputo
[this juror] told the judge she was impartial and wasn't much focused on the Trump story. Then she angled to be the jury foreman, which she did once before after running as a Dem for Congress, the body Stone allegedly lied to. This is a travesty.
- - -

@JackPosobiec we talked about this juror during the trial and you predicted even then she was trouble. I remember when we found out she was selected foreman; I still see her very clearly. This really stinks.


So yeah, it was obvious at the time.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (bDqIh)

82

I would laugh so hard if this was thrown out on a technicality.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (vEIlU)

83 When justice only serves one segment in society, there is no justice.
For anyone.

If anyone from Government is reading this, fix it. Fix it now.


Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (axyOa)

84 I was reading about this on Sean Davis twitter earlier. It seems the judge was in on it. She forbade Stone from going on social media and must have known about the tainted juror. How do you get a mistrial declared if the judge doesn;t care and wanted the outcome?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (QzF6i)

85 67. Thank you. Didn't look at it form that angle.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (JRaU+)

86 And, format snark aside, where was the case tried? If it was in DC it would be almost impossible to seat a non-leftist jury.

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (RD7QR)

87 >>Amy Berman Jackson is a Fredo Appointee


And a fan of the Ginsberg Doctrine.

She'd rather enforce the South African Constitution than our own.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (9N8Q0)

88 What in the actual fuck were Stone's attorney's doing? This is borderline malpractice.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 13, 2020 12:19 PM (9CkBG)
++++++++++++
I assume you also read Flynn's plea withdrawal, which explains malpractice by his attorneys.

I suspect that if you're being railroaded by the deep state, you need to pick a lawyer that:
1) Is not from Washington DC area, NY or CA.
2) Has no prior politically-affiliated activity for *any* party
3) Has a strong defense record

Even then, it's still probably no-win.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (I2dne)

89 This is a DC Jury...it is all swamp people.
This stuff has to be tried in places like Alabama and Tennessee

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (nRk/c)

90 "Grey on grey,

Boxache on boxache . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (Ejm1K)

91
There's way too many witches to burn.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM


might as well get started, then

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (Ny341)

92 I didn't run for office, I just ran for the Dem nomination in a primary.

Posted by: Tomeka Stonehater at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (8l/cK)

93 Brent and Alex, so happy to have the podcast back again!!

Truly we are in the best timeline.

Posted by: LizLem at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (hvf9s)

94 38 Not sure how this works, but how does Stone get the case thrown out? Do they appeal to the same judge who allowed this juror in the first place?
Posted by: Josephistan at February 13, 2020 12:17 PM (Md8yM)

yes, you ask for a mistrial, and if that judge turns you down, you appeal the conviction to the appellate court level. Or, Trump can just issue a full pardon and short circuit the whole thing right then and there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (Kpl3J)

95 Was she elected foreman by the other jurors, or assigned by the judge?

I read she actively "campaigned" for the job

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (6XlcD)

96 And another Combined Trump/Barr Op to take out the Deep State proceeds apace.

"I love it when a plan comes together."

Posted by: Sharkman at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (Hn8E7)

97 Old and Busted: It's not rigged, you're just losing.

New Hottness: You plebs don't deserve a fair trial because Orangeman bad.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (3sOO0)

98 Boy, I can't wait for Gabe to explain away this one;

"Well, you stupid Trumpalos, it's the Defense Attorney's job to strike potentially problematic jurors from OH MY GOD, LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!

*disappears*

Posted by: El Kabong at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (datdl)

99 The process is started. Democrats will completely overreach on the Stone thing going full hair-on-fire. It'll come out that the trial was biased and rigged. Trump will use it to hammer everyone and then when he pardons Stone, it'll feel like justice was done. Then he'll talk about the swamp's kangaroo courts at all the rallies this year.

Posted by: Roy at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (SUJyY)

100 What in the actual fuck were Stone's attorney's doing? This is borderline malpractice.
Posted by: BCochran1981


They complained about more than one potential juror and the judge smacked them down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (ILS6+)

101 I believe per people that were in the court the day of jury selection that Stones attorneys protested at least 3 jurors that the judge ignored and allowed to proceed.


Ultimately its going to come down to the Obama appointed judge being in on it.
Posted by: H Badger


Should be a mistrial or automatic appeal.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (S9U/P)

102 Are you actually under oath in voir dire?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (FOGOI)

103 From the Morning Report thread:


439
From a 11/2019 Politico article:



snip~



And that first juror was an only-in-Washington character, a former
Obama-era press secretary for the Office of Management and Budget whose
husband still works at the Justice Department division that played a
role in the Russia probe that ultimately snagged Stone
. She acknowledged
having negative views of President Donald Trump and said she had
followed the media coverage of special counsel Robert Mueller's
investigation.



Still, the woman said she did not have strong views about Stone, and
Jackson denied a request from Stone's lawyers to strike the woman as a
potential juror.



https://tinyurl.com/y3lh3znx

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 09:51 AM (cF8AT)

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (WqPYg)

104 Sure, however, if the prosecution knew this during the trial they are going to have some splaining to do too.


Guess their emails are going to be interesting to read.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (HALdu)

105 38 Not sure how this works, but how does Stone get the case thrown out? Do they appeal to the same judge who allowed this juror in the first place

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Time to open the fourth box.

As you cn tell I'm in a bad mood.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (d6mdH)

106 Huh.

That's a new effect.

Kinda like it.

Though it could use a few shubberies.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (Hn8E7)

107 Stone should demand a new trial with a change of venue.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (so+oy)

108 Daily Caller has a partial list of her answers to the judge's questions:

https://tinyurl.com/v4n6vxf

Warning: The Daily Caller site is chocked full of ads...and no adblock allowed.

So here's the good part:

Hart was interviewed on Nov. 5, 2019 along with a group of other potential jurors. Hart is not identified by name in the transcript (she is referred to as Juror Number 1261), but the description matches her resume. Hart ran for Congress and also served as the foreperson on a grand jury in Tennessee for two years.

“You’ve also indicated a fair amount of paying attention to news and social media including about political things?” Judge Amy Berman Jackson asked Hart.

“Yes,” she replied.

“And when we asked what you read or heard about the defendant, you do understand that he was involved in Mr. Trump’s campaign in some way?” Jackson asked.

“Yes,” she said.

“Is there anything about that that affects your ability to judge him fairly and impartially sitting here right now in this courtroom?” Jackson queried.

“Absolutely not,” Hart answered.

“What is it that you have read or heard about him?” asked Jackson.

“So nothing that I can recall specifically,” Hart replied. “I do watch sometimes paying attention but sometimes in the background CNN.”

“So I recall just hearing about him being part of the campaign and some belief or reporting around interaction with the Russian probe and interaction with him and people in the country, but I don’t have a whole lot of details. I don’t pay that close attention or watch C-SPAN,” she continued.

“Can you kind of wipe the slate clean and learn what you need to learn in this case from the evidence presented in the courtroom and no other source?” Jackson asked, to which Hart responded, “Yes.”

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (cF8AT)

109 "She did this with full approval of the judge, who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred."

Obama's Judge Amy is a blight ... and yeah, "how long will this bullsh*t go on", where malicious prosecutions at the highest level destroy decent people, as we listen to the well funded Coup Plotters all day long on CNN?

iirc, there were other jurors with obvious conflicts ... change of venue would have been necessary? ... hang em high ... it is a subversive effort backed by BigMoney and DeepState insiders ... "the coups are coming from inside the house"

Posted by: illiniwek at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (Cus5s)

110 93 Brent and Alex, so happy to have the podcast back again!!

Truly we are in the best timeline.

Posted by: LizLem at February 13, 2020 12:23 PM (hvf9s)



Thank you, ma'am!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (9CkBG)

111 There's way too many witches to burn.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 13, 2020 12:20 PM

might as well get started, then
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 13, 2020


*
*

Yup. You don't have to do 'em one at a time. Multi-roasts!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (Ejm1K)

112 You know you a cute little heartbreaker.

Boxy....

Boxy grey-dy.....

Posted by: ... at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (JE/4H)

113 56 Lying in voir dire is perjury, right?

________________

Yes, it is, but since she's a black female Dim, we all know not a damn thing will happen to her.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (k4dH2)

114 Seriously lawyers need to have a social media check done on jurors these days.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:21 PM (KZzsI)


Hell, I have it done to me as an expert witness. Sadly, I am not on social media, to the surprise and dismay of the other side.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (pmpob)

115 The Return of the Gray Beavers!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (q1Pj5)

116 101 I believe per people that were in the court the day of jury selection that Stones attorneys protested at least 3 jurors that the judge ignored and allowed to proceed.

Yup.. Posbiec (sp) of OAN was there and said they objected and were over ruled

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (6XlcD)

117 79 I believe per people that were in the court the day of jury selection that Stones attorneys protested at least 3 jurors that the judge ignored and allowed to proceed.


Ultimately its going to come down to the Obama appointed judge being in on it.
Posted by: H Badger at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (n/0Nw)

I admittedly don't know a whole lot about the law but don't both sides get x amount of challenges where they can shitcan a potential juror and not have to have a reason?

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (+Xbcw)

118 Chances she was the forewoman by accident?

Zero.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (XN+hF)

119 >>You know you a cute little heartbreaker.

Boxy....

Boxy grey-dy...


Look out...Here I come

I comin' to get you!

Posted by: The Barrel at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (9N8Q0)

120 And I know I have said this before, and I will add the caveat that I expect PDT knows a lot more than this particular Moron does, but if he is waiting until 2021 to unleash hell, he's making a yuge mistake.

You cannot count on a fair election in 2020! You cannot count on winning in order to punish the left!

Trump is going to get hammered no matter what he does. Better to go down in flames swinging than wait until the next election to crucify these traitors.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (Ki5SV)

121 Another juror's husband works for DOJ and was involved in the case and was allowed to serve. Another said he didn't really pay attention to the defense. When the defense objects to a potential juror, the judge can overrule.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (QzF6i)

122 I like the soothing gray.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (ptqGC)

123 @JackPosobiec
The foreman on the Roger Stone jury was posting Politico links during the trial

Does this mean she was reading Politico during the trial, which covered the case extensively?


Unbelievable.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (bDqIh)

124 Perjury is not a crime for Democrats, it is a requirement.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (We5+z)

125 Boy Democrats just can't catch a break. Lolgf

Posted by: WonkishRogue at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (udYQB)

126 I wonder if she'll complain about being sentenced to 9 years for a process crime.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (e284m)

127 ....and lefties will cheer that Stone did not have a fair trial.

Posted by: Emmie at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (87gB3)

128 Send her to wuhan

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (EGSGm)

129 They complained about more than one potential juror and the judge smacked them down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

I'm not a lawyer, but I thought both sides had a certain number of jurors they could strike, no reason given.

Posted by: Biergood at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (yb6r+)

130 Obviously this would be grounds for a mistrial - but no matter the outcome, shouldn't Trump just pardon Stone.

Or at the very least commute his sentence.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 13, 2020 12:26 PM (oZ6kz)

131 When someone does something such as what this juror did, it is a strike at the foundations of the country and the Constitution, guess that is the same thing.

She has to be hammered for this.

It is treachery.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (HALdu)

132 Never mind burning or tossing from helicopters the most efficient method is a full C-5 load dumped over the ocean.It's good for the sea life.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (KNsKs)

133 She did this with full approval of the judge, who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred."
...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (Cus5s)
+++++++++
I agree.

Also, I think the term for removal of judge is that judge is "disrobed."

So the judge needs to be disrobed and disbarred. Then dunked in tar and rolled in feathers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (I2dne)

134 I know this is going to stun people but the company that came up with those men's short-legged rompers RompHim is shutting down.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/wjecs6v

Evidently the flood of orders did not materialize as the NYT envisioned.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

135 Our legal system really is so screwed, and just remember, all of this is happening in Trump's/Barr's DOJ.

Imagine what happens when Dems get control again.

Posted by: Blago at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM (sjTfF)

Do you understand why nothing could be done while Mueller and Shampeachment was going on? Just look at the howls yesterday, Barr is moving to get control of the DOJ and already the MSM are shrieking IMPEACH BARR! IMPEACH TRUMP!!!

now I think Trump and Barr will win out, but they have been operating in a field full of legal land mines. Also, when people say, "why no charges yet? Why no convictions?" I point out - any case has to be strong enough to stand up to a Far Left Judge and a Far Left Jury, which you are going to get in D.C.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (Kpl3J)

136 Examples HAVE to be made of these shit weasels.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (ptqGC)

137 Once more with feeling, Roger Stone was indicted, arrested, arraigned, tried, convicted and about to be sentenced in less than 35 days. THIRTY. FIVE. DAYS.


For non-violent process crimes that derived from the illegitimate Russian Collusion Investigation, and for this he was going to get 9 years in FPMITAP.


Far in excess of what is charged for crimes of this nature.


And meanwhile, there are dozens of coup plotters who lied repeatedly under oath and to congress and have not faced so much as a single rough day.


Justice no longer exists, only force, will and power.

Posted by: John Thornton at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (NkeJ4)

138 Bit of a coincidence Amy Berman got all the cases and the jury pool was brimming with Trump haters. How are prospective jurors chosen?
Even in DC; and jurors who can't get out of it are famous for being stupid and/or unemployed, this is a lot of extreme lefties to get by chance alone. Stone's lawyers ran out of picks to decline and it was still filled.

Posted by: dirks strewn DA 1977 at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (8l/cK)

139
Amy Berman Jackson is a Fredo Appointee


Yep. The judge decided Stone was guilty before there was one witness on the stand, and made sure she got a jury that would provide a guilty verdict.

Jury rigging via judge. Not sure if I've heard of that before.

Posted by: shibumi... Ohio redneck in training at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (ZCiJZ)

140 Sessions Horowitz Durham Barr

Posted by: ... at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (JE/4H)

141 Too many kidneys, not enough knives.

Can any of our Latin scholars render this? I'm thinking of making this the motto of my house.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad


"Nimis multi renunculos et commandit molaribus suis non sufficit."

Posted by: Sharkman at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (Hn8E7)

142 When justice only serves one segment in society, there is no justice.
For anyone.

If anyone from Government is reading this, fix it. Fix it now.


Posted by: Diogenes



Because you do NOT want the people fixing it.
Guaranteed you'll hate my ROE.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (S9U/P)

143 Aahhhh gray us the new red.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (7BRHN)

144 The same type of shit happened in the Scooter Libby trial.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (Yp/pV)

145 109 "She did this with full approval of the judge, who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred."

Obama's Judge Amy is a blight ... and yeah, "how long will this bullsh*t go on", where malicious prosecutions at the highest level destroy decent people, as we listen to the well funded Coup Plotters all day long on CNN?

iirc, there were other jurors with obvious conflicts ... change of venue would have been necessary? ... hang em high ... it is a subversive effort backed by BigMoney and DeepState insiders ... "the coups are coming from inside the house"
Posted by: illiniwek at February 13, 2020 12:2


Now now now. You sound like one of those people getting upset about this while the coup plotters continue to be free as we wait for the glacial pace of the investigation into them to conclude. And getting pissed off about this just deserves apparent mockery from some posters here don't you know.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (G2zl5)

146 How dare you look into an upstanding citizen just doing her civic duty. Have you no shame? *eye rolls so hard*

Posted by: no good deed at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (MmFTx)

147 Because you do NOT want the people fixing it.
Guaranteed you'll hate my ROE.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM (S9U/P)
------------

Ditto.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (QyoQ9)

148 Was the defense team playing golf and drinking beer with the prosecutors or did they just skip voir dire in law school?

Posted by: Lamontyoubigdummy at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (X3Ub8)

149 Ooooh, somebody got the Babylon 5 comment before me. [kicks sand]

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (RD7QR)

150 Congratulations, Tomeka Hart, here is your Rachel Jeantel skinsuit.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (1CjJc)

151 >>I like the soothing gray

Me, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (bDqIh)

152 Heads need to roll. People need to be fired and / or arrested.
Getting tired of this crap.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (4q/mG)

153 So the judge needs to be disrobed and disbarred..
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (I2dne)

FFS it's lunchtime.

Posted by: ... at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (JE/4H)

154

Because you do NOT want the people fixing it.
Guaranteed you'll hate my ROE.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:28 PM



Exactly!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (axyOa)

155 Are any 'rons going to respond to the Mel Magazine request for men who evaluate ScoggDog(Nancy_Pelosi) = 1, as mentioned on the sidebar?

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (/sJni)

156 133 She did this with full approval of the judge, who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred."
...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 13, 2020 12:25 PM (Cus5s)
+++++++++
I agree.

Also, I think the term for removal of judge is that judge is "disrobed."

So the judge needs to be disrobed and disbarred. Then dunked in tar and rolled in feathers.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (I2dne)

To get rid of a Federal Judge in today's system, you have to start with Nancy Pelosi filing a bill in her Congress to start the ball rolling.

So that ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (Kpl3J)

157 The DemoCRAZY's are stomping on another Garden Rake

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (BqBId)

158 The judge needs to be removed from the bench.

Posted by: Rose at February 13, 2020 12:30 PM (f/Wek)

159 146 How dare you look into an upstanding citizen just doing her civic duty. Have you no shame? *eye rolls so hard*

Bitch should have kept her mouth shut.. Of course if anyone tries to reprimand her , she will yell Racism!

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:30 PM (6XlcD)

160 They are no longer getting away with it.

Posted by: nip at February 13, 2020 12:30 PM (cpS4u)

161 Evidently the flood of orders did not materialize as the NYT envisioned.

They did their part. They each ordered at least 4 of them.

Posted by: no good deed at February 13, 2020 12:30 PM (MmFTx)

162 Once more with feeling, Roger Stone was indicted, arrested, arraigned, tried, convicted and about to be sentenced in less than 35 days. THIRTY. FIVE. DAYS.


For non-violent process crimes that derived from the illegitimate Russian Collusion Investigation, and for this he was going to get 9 years in FPMITAP.


Far in excess of what is charged for crimes of this nature.


And meanwhile, there are dozens of coup plotters who lied repeatedly under oath and to congress and have not faced so much as a single rough day.


Justice no longer exists, only force, will and power.
Posted by: John Thornton at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (NkeJ4)



Check the hash. That's not me saying it using a sock.

IOW, I'm not the only one to notice it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:30 PM (S9U/P)

163 This grey is a near perfect match for the inside of Kaboom boxes. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (xSo9G)

164 I don't think she did anything illegal or awful. I think Stone's lawyers were either incompetent or complicit. It was their job to remove people like this from the jury

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (KZzsI)

165 136 Examples HAVE to be made of these shit weasels.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (ptqGC)

Jane. How are you?! Did you get yourself some Vit C yet?

Posted by: ... at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (JE/4H)

166 I'm not a lawyer, but I thought both sides had a certain number of jurors they could strike, no reason given.
Posted by: Biergood


They do, but the judge is the god of the court. Which means they can appeal but few appellate courts give a shit how biased a judge acted in the case.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (ILS6+)

167 I think Trump should wait - have them make the whole trial invalid.
A pardon acknowledges he committed a crime.

If the trial was crap, he shouldn't have to admit he committed a crime that he's being pardoned for and his conviction should be overturned.

And then hunt the bastards that pulled this shit down.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (e284m)

168 131
When someone does something such as what this juror did, it is a strike
at the foundations of the country and the Constitution, guess that is
the same thing.



She has to be hammered for this.



It is treachery.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (HALdu)

7 - 9 years in PMITA prison sounds about right.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (1CjJc)

169 Never mind burning or tossing from helicopters the most efficient method is a full C-5 load dumped over the ocean.It's good for the sea life.
Posted by: steevy

Read our lessons learned, don't forget the free drink coupons

Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (q4nwE)

170 now I think Trump and Barr will win out, but they have been operating in a field full of legal land mines. Also, when people say, "why no charges yet? Why no convictions?" I point out - any case has to be strong enough to stand up to a Far Left Judge and a Far Left Jury, which you are going to get in D.C.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (Kpl3J)
---------

Is there any way to move these cases outside of DC. The fact they draw on a pool of jurors who are 98% liberal is stroke inducing.

Posted by: WisRich at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (G0vdT)

171 A jury of your peers. In DC. Sure if you are a full tilt Communist, no problem.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (90T4r)

172 It was their job to remove people like this from the jury

They tried and the Judge over-ruled them... What were they supposed to do?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (6XlcD)

173 To get rid of a Federal Judge in today's system, you have to start with Nancy Pelosi filing a bill in her Congress to start the ball rolling.

So that ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (Kpl3J)
++++++++++++
Oh, I know that. We have reached the peak of an evolution begun long ago. It's been a sad progression.
- What should happen will probably happen.
- What should happen might happen
- What should happen will probably not happen
- What should happen will absolutely not happen
- If you say what should happen, you will be destroyed
^^ We are here

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (I2dne)

174 Are any 'rons going to respond to the Mel Magazine request for men who evaluate ScoggDog(Nancy_Pelosi) = 1, as mentioned on the sidebar?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
--------

I'm going to have to see her with her teeth out first.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (xSo9G)

175 Ahhhhh Ace fixed it. Booooo.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (9CkBG)

176 164 I don't think she did anything illegal or awful. I think Stone's lawyers were either incompetent or complicit. It was their job to remove people like this from the jury

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (KZzsI)

Judge overruled Stone's attorney's objection to jurors.

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (cF8AT)

177 The judge needs to be removed from the bench.

Posted by: Rose at February 13, 2020 12:30 PM (f/Wek)

Sure....then she can get a seat in congress.

Posted by: BignJames at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (X/Pw5)

178 7 - 9 years in PMITA prison sounds about right.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February


I would hang them for the first offense.

Same with voter fraud.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (HALdu)

179 >>Once more with feeling, Roger Stone was indicted, arrested, arraigned, tried, convicted and about to be sentenced in less than 35 days. THIRTY. FIVE. DAYS.

Not true.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (ZLI7S)

180 So Trump drew attention to the trial and the Left pounced and now it's blown up in their faces. Do I detect a pattern?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (H8QX8)

181 Justice, banana republic style.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (EgshT)

182 What were Stone's attorneys doing? Getting shut down by the judge:
@JackPosobiec

I sat in the courtroom during Roger Stone's jury selection

Time and again his lawyers pointed out anti-Trump bias on the part of jurors

And one by one the judge dismissed their concerns.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (bDqIh)

183 23
Prosecutors and the Judge had to know about this.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (9N8Q0)

Why didn't Stone's lawyers know about this also and forcefully object to her being accepted on the jury?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (CQ3Qb)

184 Huh. Seem to recall a John Cusack movie about doing this --- an activist working to get on a jury to make sure his target bad guy corporation (tobacco or gun company) was successfully convicted. Runaway Jury?

At this point, it would not surprise me if she was planted on that jury by the Democrats/Team Coup. They've been doing planted man on the street and townhall people for decades.
Posted by: Lizzy


I remember that. I think you're right. That's clearly what happened here.

Posted by: eleven at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (QLPEO)

185 Anyone who talks about this story is guilty of witness tampering. I saw it on a recent Law and Order... ripped from the headlines!!!!

Posted by: ... at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (JE/4H)

186 166
I'm not a lawyer, but I thought both sides had a certain number of jurors they could strike, no reason given.

Posted by: Biergood


But during Voir Dire you're SUPPOSED to exclude yourself if you have a bias of some sort. Unless you ADMIT you have a bias, and when they ask you if you think you can deliver a fair hearing anyway you can say yes if you believe you can.


There is no way this lying bitch could have answered that honestly.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (e284m)

187 I'm shocked, shock to find criminality going on in DC.

Posted by: Your Winnings, Sir at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (yQpMk)

188 I'm going to have to see her with her teeth out first.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (xSo9G)
+++++++++
Nancy "gum-job" Pelosi.

:: goes to take a shower now because he grossed himself out ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (I2dne)

189 Stone has a solid appeal based solely on the fact that his lawyers apparently didnt do due diligence and discover the PUBLICLY AVAILABLE information that this woman is a swamp thing. Her public statements on social media both before and during the trial, her husband working on the coup, what the hell were Stone's lawyers doing? His defense was clearly compromised by gross incompetence.

Posted by: Deepelemblues at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (fuJH0)

190 171 A jury of your peers. In DC. Sure if you are a full tilt Communist, no problem.
Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (90T4r)


IF - BIG IF - any of the coup plotters ever come to trial, the entire Washington DC area and the counties surrounding it must be eliminated from a jury pool.

The venue should be changed to Oklahoma or the most solid Republican district in the nation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (zBaqJ)

191 Maybe get Alcee Hastings to propose it. Just for laughs...

Posted by: pahound at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (CCGGT)

192 Remember when the left was outraged because Avenatti got excessive bail and was put in a big boy holding cell for non-violent offenses? But Roger Stone, that dude should die in jail.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at February 13, 2020 12:33 PM (oZ6kz)

193 Why didn't Stone's lawyers know about this also and forcefully object to her being accepted on the jury?

See #182

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:34 PM (6XlcD)

194 Are any 'rons going to respond to the Mel Magazine request for men who evaluate ScoggDog(Nancy_Pelosi) = 1, as mentioned on the sidebar?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
--------

I'm going to have to see her with her teeth out first.
Posted by: Mike Hammer



Sorry. Not into sex with a 79 yr old.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:34 PM (S9U/P)

195 OT, but here's a good article, written by a former Dem and SJW who actually decided to check out a NH Trump rally to see if the Deplorables were as bad as she thought. She ended up having a great time:

https://tinyurl.com/qrmgqpw

No, she's not completely won over (she voted for Pete in the primary). But she's fair and honest and sees what the left has become. The comments are also interesting - most of the "I was a Dem until (pick an event) and now I see how hateful they are and I'm voting for Trump." The few leftist comments basically make her point for her.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at February 13, 2020 12:34 PM (d6Ksn)

196 164 I don't think she did anything illegal or awful. I think Stone's lawyers were either incompetent or complicit. It was their job to remove people like this from the jury
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:31 PM (KZzsI)


I thought someone earlier today said that they had tried to get a lot of these potential clearly biased jurors removed but the judge refused.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 13, 2020 12:34 PM (lbxnS)

197 Thing I don't get is this: during voir dire, lawyers have a limited number of potential jurors whom they can dismiss for no reason at all. During a high profile trial, this number is typically large. How is it that a judge is able to overrule these dismissals, which are normally unchallengeable?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 13, 2020 12:34 PM (jW9oF)

198 I'm going to have to see her with her teeth out first.
Posted by: Mike Hammer



You get to see that every time you take your dick out of her mouth.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (HALdu)

199 @179

What is not true, Stone was arrested on January 25th.

He was about to be sentenced on or about March 9th.


Posted by: John Thornton at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (NkeJ4)

200
183 23
Prosecutors and the Judge had to know about this.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (9N8Q0)

Why didn't Stone's lawyers know about this also and forcefully object to her being accepted on the jury?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (CQ3Qb)

Robert Mugabe and Hugo Chavez are looking up from Hell, and smiling.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (90T4r)

201
If anything, the "judge" Amy Berman Jackson is even worse than this running dog juror.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (zBaqJ)

202 Stone was convicted in DC. Finding a non-partisan jury in DC may be impossible.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (m/Gc2)

203 I'm going to have to see her with her teeth out first.


Come to grampa!

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (EgshT)

204 Don't you think that SOMEONE in the media that covered that trial would have recognized her?

If they did, they surely get it quiet.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (so+oy)

205 I just watched two assholes on the NYC subway dressed in "hazmat suits" with a plastic container filled with some liquid spill the container as a prank. Honestly, if the people in that subway car would have beaten the living shit out of them, I would applaud.

Posted by: no good deed at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (MmFTx)

206 99 The process is started. Democrats will completely overreach on the Stone thing going full hair-on-fire. It'll come out that the trial was biased and rigged. Trump will use it to hammer everyone and then when he pardons Stone, it'll feel like justice was done. Then he'll talk about the swamp's kangaroo courts at all the rallies this year.
Posted by: Roy at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (SUJyY)

I agree completely, that's how I see this playing out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (Kpl3J)

207 180 So Trump drew attention to the trial and the Left pounced and now it's blown up in their faces. Do I detect a pattern?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (H8QX

This is going to be the shape of things from now until at least Nov. Get your popcorn.

Posted by: ... at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (JE/4H)

208 They tried and the Judge over-ruled them... What were they supposed to do?

... are the rules in DC different or something? That's not how it works here, at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (KZzsI)

209 The foreskin, I mean foreperson, is from Memphis.

Posted by: Golfman at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (WldAa)

210 What is not true, Stone was arrested on January 25th.


Of 2019

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (9CkBG)

211 Stone was convicted in DC. Finding a non-partisan jury in DC may be impossible.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (m/Gc2)
+++++++++++
Any federal trial involving any political aspect whatsoever should occur only in federal courts between the Mississippi and the Missouri.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (I2dne)

212 205 I just watched two assholes on the NYC subway dressed in "hazmat suits" with a plastic container filled with some liquid spill the container as a prank. Honestly, if the people in that subway car would have beaten the living shit out of them, I would applaud.
Posted by: no good deed at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (MmFTx)

I saw that too, and I hate to admit that when I was 19 years old, I would have thought that was the funniest prank in the world.

I was an idiot when I was 19 years old, I know that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (Kpl3J)

213 The defense can only request the Judge do her job.

The Judge has the only say in these proceedings.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (9N8Q0)

214 Justice, banana republic style.
Posted by: Notorious BFD



They're gonna shit when they get Justice, French Revolution style.

Madame Guillotine cut hair mighty fine.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (S9U/P)

215 No flaming skull?

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (JtRzJ)

216 >>What is not true, Stone was arrested on January 25th.

>>He was about to be sentenced on or about March 9th.

He was indicted and arrested in January 2019. His trial was in November 2019.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)

217 Bless her heart.

Trump is gonna hafta pardon Stone, but not until after November. Stone's attorneys should seek delays until then.

Might as well give the Dems something to scream about for the next 4 years.

Maybe a few will rage-stroke. I have a list.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (XF4b8)

218 BTW, what DID happen to Scogg? He must have left while I was on hiatus.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (90T4r)

219 @210

Ooopss!!


My bad, carry on.

Posted by: John Thornton at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (NkeJ4)

220 Sorry. Not into sex with a 79 yr old.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:34 PM (S9U/P)

Well, not having grilled cheese sandwich for lunch. Thanks for the visual.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (k/TB6)

221
Amy Berman Jackson is a Fredo Appointee.

Yep. The judge decided Stone was guilty before there was one witness on the stand, and made sure she got a jury that would provide a guilty verdict.

Jury rigging via judge. Not sure if I've heard of that before.
Posted by: shibumi... Ohio redneck in training at February 13, 2020 12:27 PM (ZCiJZ)

-----

As I understand it,

She overruled the defense on this particular juror, and several others.
She also refused to overturn the verdict, AND filed the ruling under seal (secret) while issuing a gag order against Stone.

Where is the Appeals Court in all this!

Posted by: rd at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (+0uDE)

222 No, she's not completely won over (she voted for Pete in the primary

++++++++++++++
That's not what she said. She was a registered democrat and had to vote in the democrat primary. She said she was changing her registration to Republican so she didn;t have to do that again.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (QzF6i)

223 It's funny in that DC is 95% rabid partisan Democrats so somebody identified as a Republican, especially even associated with Trump, cannot get a fair trial in DC.

Posted by: MAGA at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (bloh/)

224 The drama keeps getting weirder. I wonder how the Democrats will react if Barr uses this information to recommend "time-served" to the judge?


I lied, I don't wonder at all!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Be of Good Cheer - Liberal Tears 30% Off! at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (hLRSq)

225 I admittedly don't know a whole lot about the law but don't both sides get x amount of challenges where they can shitcan a potential juror and not have to have a reason?
_____________

There are two types of ways to challenge a juror: challenges for cause, and peremptory challenges. You challenge a juror for cause when you think the juror can't render a fair and impartial verdict. Attorneys get unlimited challenges for cause, but they have to state the reason for the challenge, and the judge can overrule them. You get a limited number of peremptory challenges, where you can get rid of a juror for any reason (except an improper reason, like race) and you don't have to give your reason. If you challenge a juror for cause and the judge rejects your challenge, you can still use a peremptory challenge on that juror, if you have peremptory challenges left to use. If you've run out though, you're screwed.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (k4dH2)

226 A Facebook post written by Tomeka Hart, the senior program officer for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,


And *THAT* didn't set off any alarm bells?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

227 Maybe a few will rage-stroke. I have a list.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (XF4b

They are taking suggestions? There needs to be one of those suggestion boxes.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (1CjJc)

228 Justice, banana republic style.
Posted by: Notorious BFD


All of a sudden the "Love, American Style" theme popped in my head.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (zBaqJ)

229 Trump is gonna hafta pardon Stone, but not until after November. Stone's attorneys should seek delays until then.

Might as well give the Dems something to scream about for the next 4 years.

Maybe a few will rage-stroke. I have a list.
Posted by: GnuBreed at Februar



not before this works its way through the courts and they have to explain how this happened, punish the bitch and the judge

If he pardons him everything goes away

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (HALdu)

230 >>Sorry. Not into sex with a 79 yr old.


You afraid of a little friction, sonny?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)

231 I just watched two assholes on the NYC subway dressed in "hazmat suits" with a plastic container filled with some liquid spill the container as a prank. Honestly, if the people in that subway car would have beaten the living shit out of them, I would applaud.
Posted by: no good deed at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM


That why I carry a small packet knife.
Cut those suits easily

Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)

232 212 205 I just watched two assholes on the NYC subway dressed in "hazmat suits" with a plastic container filled with some liquid spill the container as a prank. Honestly, if the people in that subway car would have beaten the living shit out of them, I would applaud.
Posted by: no good deed at February 13, 2020 12:35 PM (MmFTx)

---

Fact is, there are disturbed folks in this country that would love to spread the wuhanflu just for shits and giggles, then post on social media for clicks.

Posted by: SMH at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (RU4sa)

233 she seems nice

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (X+a7J)

234 As I understand it,

She overruled the defense on this particular juror, and several others.
She also refused to overturn the verdict, AND filed the ruling under seal (secret) while issuing a gag order against Stone.

Where is the Appeals Court in all this!
Posted by: rd at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (+0uDE)

You don't know how Appeals work? They'll get to it, in a year or two. Seriously.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (Kpl3J)

235 I just did a Google image search of Hart. The first picture is of her standing beside Donna Brazile. WTF is going on here?

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (JtRzJ)

236 213 The defense can only request the Judge do her job.

The Judge has the only say in these proceedings.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:36 PM (9N8Q0)

Yes. And so the process grinds the victim down, law be damned.

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (RD7QR)

237 No flaming skull?

Saving those for an actual "arrest" of some kind happens...Of the Deep Staters of Course... Deep down I don't believe much if anything will come from this revelation... yeah... I'm a cynic...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (6XlcD)

238 Wow. There is no way the cunt judge, the US "attorneys," and possibly even the DEFENSE attorney was unaware of this. Everyone needs to be disbarred, prosecuted and personally destroyed.

Again, the D.C. bar is a corrupt shithole and no reciprocity should be shown to it by any state.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (puu6v)

239 >>Where is the Appeals Court in all this!


Circling the wagons.

Judges generally don't police themselves.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (9N8Q0)

240 Judge Jackson needs to be disbarred. All convictions in her court room need to be reviewed for possible mistrial.

Posted by: Guzalot at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (Br0Hb)

241 >>Don't you think that SOMEONE in the media that covered that trial would have recognized her?



If they did, they surely get it quiet.


See #81 above

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (bDqIh)

242 230 >>Sorry. Not into sex with a 79 yr old.


You afraid of a little friction, sonny?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)


No, just toxin release...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (zBaqJ)

243 Whatever, I'm good - another 1k of m855 in the locker.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (e284m)

244 The funny part is the mole popped it's head up and got whomped with a mallet they never saw coming. But the need to virtue signal overwhelms all good sense.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 13, 2020 12:40 PM (oVJmc)

245 There is no way this lying bitch could have answered that honestly.


Yeah, but she is a democrat, and honesty, like gender, is fluid with democrats. In other words... no matter what they say or do, it is not a lie and is always legal.

/welcome to our New World Order.

Posted by: shibumi... Ohio redneck in training at February 13, 2020 12:40 PM (ZCiJZ)

246 230 >>Sorry. Not into sex with a 79 yr old.


You afraid of a little friction, sonny?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)

And now I have an image of latex-festooned Nancy popping out her dentures sexily. DAMN YOU.

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:40 PM (RD7QR)

247 240 Judge Jackson needs to be disbarred. All convictions in her court room need to be reviewed for possible mistrial.
Posted by: Guzalot at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (Br0Hb)


Where's that leftist shyster Barry Scheck and his Justice Project? I'm sure he'll get right on this...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:40 PM (zBaqJ)

248 You don't know how Appeals work? They'll get to it, in a year or two. Seriously.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (Kpl3J)

It's been a while since we've seen some juicy habeus corpus stuff, hasn't it?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (1CjJc)

249 239 >>Where is the Appeals Court in all this!
Circling the wagons.

Judges generally don't police themselves.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (9N8Q0)

See now I disagree, I think Stone will be completely exonerated by the Appeals Court.

in 2025.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (Kpl3J)

250 So Trump drew attention to the trial and the Left pounced and now it's blown up in their faces. Do I detect a pattern?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 13, 2020 12:32


Yes, you do. It's like Ukraine - the end result was Trump strengthened, Biden destroyed, the Democrats left in a shambles.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Says Be of Good Cheer - Liberal Tears 30% Off! at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (hLRSq)

251 You afraid of a little friction, sonny?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)

Why, oh why is the image of Playboy cartoon Granny popping int my brain?

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (q1Pj5)

252 I admittedly don't know a whole lot about the law but don't both sides get x amount of challenges where they can shitcan a potential juror and not have to have a reason?

That's how it works here, at least. Maybe its different in DC or they ran out of them? I wouldn't be surprised if a jury pool from that area was so packed full of lunatics its hard to get them all.

But that judge definitely has some 'splaining to do about this ruling if that's what happened.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

253 There is no way this lying bitch could have answered that honestly.

She lacked "candor".. Which of course means she lied but if You're a Dem. it means not guilty

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (6XlcD)

254 That is the interesting thing though, not what Stone's lawyers knew and did but what the prosecutors knew and did.

If they knew and did nothing and there is an email trail with discussion, that is going to destroy them and have some effect upon their status with DOJ and pensions.

There is lots of good stuff here.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (HALdu)

255 >>And now I have an image of latex-festooned Nancy popping out her dentures sexily. DAMN YOU.


I bet your dungarees are getting tight now, too.

Posted by: Nancy in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (9N8Q0)

256 You know, right now, the only readon I'm opposed to repealing the 22nd Amendment is because I don't want to see Obama get another bite at the Apple.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (xmKbk)

257 246 230 >>Sorry. Not into sex with a 79 yr old.


You afraid of a little friction, sonny?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)

And now I have an image of latex-festooned Nancy popping out her dentures sexily. DAMN YOU.
Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:40 PM (RD7QR)


Latex? Dude, her nether bits must be the consistency of fossilized beef jerky.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (zBaqJ)

258 243
Whatever, I'm good - another 1k of m855 in the locker.


Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (e284m)

Why not M193 instead? Interested to see people's preference for M855.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (1CjJc)

259 >>See now I disagree, I think Stone will be completely exonerated by the Appeals Court.

in 2025.


1 week after Berman resigns / retires. Yes.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (9N8Q0)

260 244
The funny part is the mole popped it's head up and got whomped with a
mallet they never saw coming. But the need to virtue signal overwhelms
all good sense.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 13, 2020 12:40 PM (oVJmc)
To paraphrase Chappelle "she was supporting them...with her silence".

Oops.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (e284m)

261
And now I have an image of latex-festooned Nancy popping out her dentures sexily. DAMN YOU.



It's not latex fetish-wear, it's to avoid leakage.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (oVJmc)

262 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (/ZYFC)

263 LOL Buttgag is trying to was JFK but he's not very good at it:

"When I'm president, we're going to measure the economy not by the heights of the Dow Jones, but by how much a worker has in her pocket."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

264 Here's another guy who was tweeting about jury selection at the time (thread)

@CharlieGileNBC
The defense moved to dismiss one potential juror, a former attorney who wrote in his questionnaire that he was "opposed to everything Donald Trump stands for." He said he understands his biases and thinks his understanding will help him apply the law to the facts.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/s7etx6q

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (bDqIh)

265 And now I have an image of latex-festooned Nancy popping out her dentures sexily. DAMN YOU.


The AoSHQ Diet Plan is in full swing!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (S9U/P)

266 182
What were Stone's attorneys doing? Getting shut down by the judge:
@JackPosobiec

I sat in the courtroom during Roger Stone's jury selection



Time and again his lawyers pointed out anti-Trump bias on the part of jurors



And one by one the judge dismissed their concerns.


Posted by: Lizzy

Dismiss them? Ridiculous. They're no more anti-Trump than I am.

Posted by: Justice (hahaha) Amy Berman Jackson at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (8l/cK)

267 The 22nd Amendment kept Clinton from a third term. He would have been re- elected IMO, his naughtiness notwithstanding.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (90T4r)

268
You can bet your bollocks to a barn dance that Berman Jackson is on that Leftist SCOTUS shortlist.

G-d forbid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (zBaqJ)

269 Latex? Dude, her nether bits must be the consistency of fossilized beef jerky.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (zBaqJ)

Like f*cking a naugahyde recliner?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (k/TB6)

270 So why the fuck does Mike Cenovich (PBUH) have to uncover this? What is Roger Stone paying his attorneys for?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

271 99
The process is started. Democrats will completely overreach on the Stone
thing going full hair-on-fire. It'll come out that the trial was biased
and rigged. Trump will use it to hammer everyone and then when he
pardons Stone, it'll feel like justice was done. Then he'll talk about
the swamp's kangaroo courts at all the rallies this year.

Posted by: Roy at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (SUJyY)


#TwoWeeks is alive!!!!

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (CQ3Qb)

272 The Italian translator doesn't understand "covfefe" and "bigly"?
What an idiot.

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (v0R5T)

273 218 BTW, what DID happen to Scogg? He must have left while I was on hiatus.
Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (90T4r)

I believe he got banned... again.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (G2zl5)

274 Stone might have a case for incompetent representation.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (oVJmc)

275 262 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?
Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (/ZYFC)


I believe so.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (zBaqJ)

276 You afraid of a little friction, sonny?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)

Why, oh why is the image of Playboy cartoon Granny popping int my brain?


Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM



Ha!
Same thing here!
The Horde mind is an amazing thing.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (axyOa)

277 Its the left. They do political prisoners like no other. Don't make the mistake of applying the label "American" to them. They are same evil that had traveled from century to century, from continent to continent destroying all thats before them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (9Om/r)

278 Re: M193, for my part, it is cheaper, flatter, arguably better terminal effects on unarmored recipients, for which most recipients can be expected to be, more inherent projectile consistency considering the differences between FMJ and steel penetrator rounds, and lighter for the same loadout.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:45 PM (1CjJc)

279 You afraid of a little friction, sonny?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi in Latex at February 13, 2020 12:38 PM (9N8Q0)

Why, oh why is the image of Playboy cartoon Granny popping int my brain?
Posted by: Count de Monet


Exactly.

"Move yer tit granny so I can get it in!"

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2020 12:45 PM (S9U/P)

280 Well if the judge repeatedly allowed jurors openly hostile to the defendant to stay in the jury, then that's an easy opening for appeal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)

281 This shit got out of hand when they failed to disbar Hildebeast after her Watergate malfeasance.

Posted by: Heirloominati at February 13, 2020 12:45 PM (GC07d)

282 "270 So why the fuck does Mike Cenovich (PBUH) have to uncover this? What is Roger Stone paying his attorneys for?"

This. Obviously the cunt judge and the US Jackbooted Lawyers conspired to convict, but even the DEFENSE at best was negligent, at worst was complicit.

The D.C. bar is...special.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 12:45 PM (puu6v)

283 >>So why the fuck does Mike Cenovich (PBUH) have to uncover this? What is Roger Stone paying his attorneys for?

There were articles written at the time in the msm about some of the jurors in the trial being former candidates for office and government employees.

Nobody cared because it was Roger Stone.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

284 They never anticipated Trump would release the transcript of the Ukraine call.

They never anticipated a juror would out herself as rabidly biased.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (zqs/f)

285 Why not M193 instead? Interested to see people's preference for M855.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (1CjJc)

Steel core for starters - better penetration.

And I already have, uh, quite a bit of the M193.

https://tinyurl.com/yx5ckfn2

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (e284m)

286 270
So why the fuck does Mike Cenovich (PBUH) have to uncover this? What is Roger Stone paying his attorneys for?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

Stone is under a gag order. Things must be "discovered" unconnected to him.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (1CjJc)

287 Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (90T4r)


I think he has occasionally posts under handles, but I haven't seen him for a while unless my "ScoggDog" detection meter isn't working.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (WI7YS)

288 258 243
Whatever, I'm good - another 1k of m855 in the locker.


Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:39 PM (e284m)

Why not M193 instead? Interested to see people's preference for M855.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (1CjJc)

I like the M855 performance out of a 20" barrel. It really does 'interesting' things once it gets over 3000 FPS.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (l4C/z)

289 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?

That is one aspect I do not understand, why judges will continually allow delays and crazy stalling tactics in cases like this. Its been years. Clearly justice is not being served.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (KZzsI)

290


Boy, sounds like they took out a hit on Stone.

I remember the massive police force needed to take that dude in, certainly warranted.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (1wQnN)

291 Thank you, Tomeka. You're a patriot and a credit to Persons of Vagina everywhere.

Posted by: Lisa Page at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (sWM8x)

292 263 LOL Buttgag is trying to was JFK but he's not very good at it:

"When I'm president, we're going to measure the economy not by the heights of the Dow Jones, but by how much a worker has in her pocket."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

Bootygig is trying to emulate Obama's talent for elevated blather but he's not as good at it. Thus you get horse-scat like "the shape of our democracy," like it's kind of rectangular or something.

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (RD7QR)

293 269 Latex? Dude, her nether bits must be the consistency of fossilized beef jerky.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:41 PM (zBaqJ)

Like f*cking a naugahyde recliner?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (k/TB6)


A Scottish guy I knew once described the labia of a woman he slept with as "she had piss flaps like Audie Murphy's saddlebags."

I did a spit take like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (zBaqJ)

294 270
So why the fuck does Mike Cenovich (PBUH) have to uncover this? What is Roger Stone paying his attorneys for?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)
You would think his attorneys would have done some background checking on the jurors.
This is one more chink in the armor on our judicial system. Justice may be blind, but it is also politically biased. Better to be judged by 12..... Yeah - maybe not so much.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (N39Ws)

295 283 >>So why the fuck does Mike Cenovich (PBUH) have to uncover this? What is Roger Stone paying his attorneys for?

There were articles written at the time in the msm about some of the jurors in the trial being former candidates for office and government employees.

Nobody cared because it was Roger Stone.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

Ah, the Alex Jones problem
Damn

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (l4C/z)

296 Chi-Town Jerry: "She had to have lied on those forms. Stone's lawyers would have never let her on the jury if she was truthful."

Also possible she didn't lie but that there were so many others of that "caliber" that Stone's defense team ran out of strikes during voir dire.

His trial was in D.C., the epicenter of the swamp and progressive politics. What's the percentage of Democrats there? Over 50% Black demographic and over 75% of total population registered Democrat.

It's likely the most directly hostile environment against Republicans - and Trump in particular - in the country second only to the MFM.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (6eEQ+)

297 The FBI has investigated. Mz. Hart won't say that she was biased, therefore they find that she was not biased.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (6jhIN)

298 Steel core for starters - better penetration.

And I already have, uh, quite a bit of the M193.

https://tinyurl.com/yx5ckfn2


Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (e284m)

Yeah, the power of AND prevails.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (1CjJc)

299 They tried and the Judge over-ruled them... What were they supposed to do?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (6XlcD)

If only there ware a media presence at the courthouse during this trial. Not a microphone to be found outside!

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (CQ3Qb)

300 And one by one the judge dismissed their concerns.



'Tis but a scratch. Have at you!

Posted by: Judge Amy Berman at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (q1Pj5)

301 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (/ZYFC)


Somewhere around year 8, and that's just for discovery issues. Nowhere near to the civil 'trial'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (XF4b8)

302 The Left is not American. They are as alien to America as Muslims are, when speaking of Republican principles of governance. They are Communist to their core. Many of them are aspiring Stalinists, and would happily liquidate us. For the greater good.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (90T4r)

303 The government had better hope none of the normals are paying attention.

This isn't about Stone. Or Flynn. Or Manafort. Or Trump. Or Biden. Or Antifa riots in Berkeley and Portland. Or ______.

It's about the fact that there is no law and there is no justice. None. These are dead concepts. All there is left is power by any means necessary.

The cops do not protect. The cops do not defend. The cops merely enforce the will of their political masters. They do not enforce law and they do not investigate crime. They railroad who they are told to railroad.

Once that railroading reaches a certain point, they move to the courts. The courts are not a place for justice. The courts are not even a place for law. The courts are merely a place for the final doling out of punishment to whoever is being railroaded.

Justice and law are dead, and G-d help us all if significant numbers of regular people become hip to it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (I2dne)

304 A Scottish guy I knew once described the labia of a woman he slept with as "she had piss flaps like Audie Murphy's saddlebags."



I did a spit take like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (zBaqJ)

*furiously takes notes*

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (k/TB6)

305 277 Its the left. They do political prisoners like no other. Don't make the mistake of applying the label "American" to them. They are same evil that had traveled from century to century, from continent to continent destroying all thats before them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 13, 2020 12:44 PM (9Om/r)

They are Legion

Posted by: josephistan at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (Izzlo)

306 I'll lol if the verdict gets overturned after ALL the prosecutors who worked on it have already resigned.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (zqs/f)

307 So help her God and all that, you know?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (e284m)

308 You know who has access to everything the prosecution did during the trial and no worries about privilege?


Barr

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (HALdu)

309 2nd look at removing their thumbs?

Posted by: x at February 13, 2020 12:49 PM (nFwvY)

310 I am so damned sick and tired of this ****. They do and will get away with everything. Ever-ything. As Mark Steyn said a few minutes, and it has never been more clear, we are now a nation of men, not laws. This entire thing needs to be flushed. I now know, and have to face, that our top judicial branch is thoroughly rife with corruption.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (JoUsr)

311 They never anticipated a juror would out herself as rabidly biased.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (zqs/f)

No they did not care...Their PDT hatred is considered normal and what any decent human being would think.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (nRk/c)

312 262 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?
Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (/ZYFC)

for 10 years now, I think.

"This. Obviously the cunt judge and the US Jackbooted Lawyers conspired to convict, but even the DEFENSE at best was negligent, at worst was complicit."

I think the Judge put gag orders on the Defense, as well. You can't fight a crooked judge, you can just make sure issues are preserved for appeal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (Kpl3J)

313 >>Bootygig is trying to emulate Obama's talent for elevated blather but
he's not as good at it. Thus you get horse-scat like "the shape of our
democracy," like it's kind of rectangular or something.

Think he means pear-shaped?
Tucker accused him of being a robot spouting google-wallstreet talking points/jargon, LOL.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (bDqIh)

314 Posobiec has Breaking News! Roger Stone's attorneys considereing taking action!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (QzF6i)

315 It's likely the most directly hostile environment against Republicans - and Trump in particular - in the country second only to the MFM.


Then I guess it was not possible to gather a jury of stones peers, therefore the jurisdiction should have been changed.

Here is a list of 100 people who hate you and want to see anyone associated with trump rot in prison. Pick 12 to judge you.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (6jhIN)

316 107 Stone should demand a new trial with a change of venue.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 13, 2020 12:24 PM (so+oy)

---

He did. The judge that railroaded him denied his motion, and sealed the ruling. Also put Stone under a gag order.

Posted by: rd at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (+0uDE)

317 Am I the only one who is seeing screwed up text on the main page? Once I click through on a post everything is normal but the main page text is all screwed up with blue hyperlinks instead of red.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)

318
Yeah, the power of AND prevails.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (1CjJc)
Some is for fun, some is for when it's serious, you know?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (e284m)

319 "308 You know who has access to everything the prosecution did during the trial and no worries about privilege?


Barr"

Yep.

The shit is about to hit the fan. Will any of the cuck GOP speak up about impeaching Berman?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (puu6v)

320 314 Posobiec has Breaking News! Roger Stone's attorneys considereing taking action!

"considering"? he needs new Lawyers

Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (6XlcD)

321 2nd look at removing their thumbs?
Posted by: x at February 13, 2020 12:49 PM (nFwvY)
........

That's mean. How would they jerk off?

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (v0R5T)

322 he's not as good at it. Thus you get horse-scat like "the shape of our
democracy," like it's kind of rectangular or something.

Think he means pear-shaped?
Tucker accused him of being a robot spouting google-wallstreet talking points/jargon, LOL.


We know it is banana shaped.

This new learning amazes me.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (6jhIN)

323 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2020 12:47 PM (zBaqJ)

Well, you didn't hear how she described his p****
Her friends got a laugh too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 12:52 PM (WI7YS)

324 "312 262 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?
Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:42 PM (/ZYFC)

for 10 years now, I think.

"This. Obviously the cunt judge and the US Jackbooted Lawyers conspired to convict, but even the DEFENSE at best was negligent, at worst was complicit."

I think the Judge put gag orders on the Defense, as well. You can't fight a crooked judge, you can just make sure issues are preserved for appeal. "

Even after preemptory strikes are exhausted a juror can be removed for cause.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 12:52 PM (puu6v)

325 Bring Judge Amy in for a perjury trap in front of congress ... get her convicted of lying (assuming she would lie about her bias, or other partisan acts) ... get her convicted to 7-9 years for lying.


lots of obstacles to that, but 7-9 years would "fit the crime" of enabling malicious prosecution.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 13, 2020 12:52 PM (Cus5s)

326 It worked didn't it?

If it weren't for you pesky kids....

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 12:52 PM (BiNEL)

327 hat's mean. How would they jerk off?

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (v0R5T)
less effectively

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:52 PM (e284m)

328 ALL the prosecutors who worked on it have already resigned.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (zqs/f)
..........

I hope somebody thanked them for their service.

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

329 On a positive note, it is up to -2, I am wfh and the resident 11 year-old shih tzu has relocated for the 4th time to bask in the sun coming through the shutters.

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (/ZYFC)

330 Sorry sir, you're going to need to complete an Environmental Impact Statement before you burn that witch.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (hKi6n)

331 This is how you get the judges, the prosecutors, everyone.

Who knows, maybe the judge was communicating with the prosecutors?

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (HALdu)

332 I hope somebody thanked them for their service.
Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (v0R5T)
+++++++
The press beatified them. Does that count?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (I2dne)

333 I'm'a just saying..if we can't trust the 3rd box...

Only one box left after that. And opening it will get loud and messy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (l4C/z)

334 320 314 Posobiec has Breaking News! Roger Stone's attorneys considereing taking action!

"considering"? he needs new Lawyers
Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (6XlcD)

I don't see that they've done anything wrong. Fighting a crooked judge is impossible in our system, you can only fight through it and then go to appeal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (Kpl3J)

335 Isn't it interesting that none of this would have come to light if not for that crazy sentencing instruction and the withdrawal of the 4 attorneys.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (QzF6i)

336 329 On a positive note, it is up to -2, I am wfh and the resident 11 year-old shih tzu has relocated for the 4th time to bask in the sun coming through the shutters.
Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (/ZYFC)

That's living your best life

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (l4C/z)

337 prosecutors who worked on it have already resigned.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM




Not from the DOJ, just from their job.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (HALdu)

338 222 No, she's not completely won over (she voted for Pete in the primary

++++++++++++++
That's not what she said. She was a registered democrat and had to vote in the democrat primary. She said she was changing her registration to Republican so she didn;t have to do that again.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:37 PM (QzF6i)

Slight correction: She changed it to Independent.

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (cF8AT)

339 You can also bet she was feeding the fellow jurors the latest "bombshell" speculation from MSNBC on the trial--without disclosing the source, misleading the other jurors into thinking that was evidence in the case

It's not just perjury in the voir dire, it's also that she likely violated her oath as a juror in multiple ways

And the bigger question: Deep state knew this, hid it and someone sent it to his attorneys

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (vPKfA)

340 I can't see how this doesn't get overturned at the appellate level at least.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (zI60C)

341 Actually misquoted....They are looking into next steps.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (QzF6i)

342 >>> For non-violent process crimes that derived from the illegitimate Russian Collusion Investigation, and for this he was going to get 9 years in FPMITAP. Far in excess of what is charged for crimes of this nature.

Rush pointed out yesterday rape is usually 4-5 years. And at his age, sentencing him to 9 years is a death sentence.

Posted by: LizLem at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (hvf9s)

343 Any of the poll trolls around?

More than 6 in 10 Americans say they feel better off after first 3 years of Trump, poll finds


A recent Gallup poll has some encouraging news for President Donald Trump as his battle for
reelection heats up: more than six in 10Americans say they are better
off than they were three years ago when he took office, and about the
same numbercredit him for the improvement. No incumbent
president in the past three decades has enjoyed such a high percentage
of people feeling better about their situations.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (QxgFp)

344 321 2nd look at removing their thumbs?
Posted by: x at February 13, 2020 12:49 PM (nFwvY)
........

That's mean. How would they jerk off?
Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (v0R5T)

Fair enough.

*Adds castration to the list*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (l4C/z)

345 He did. The judge that railroaded him denied his motion, and sealed the ruling. Also put Stone under a gag order.


Posted by: rd at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM



Isn't this pretty much standard practice in Wisconsin? I think I read it was Wisconsin. Usually only for conservative defendants.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (axyOa)

346 Daily caller has an update. Has some of her selection testimony.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (6jhIN)

347 Isn't it interesting that none of this would have come to light if not for that crazy sentencing instruction and the withdrawal of the 4 attorneys.


Their hate makes them reckless.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (oVJmc)

348 In a society, where a once common understanding of honor and dignity has been deliberately destroyed, an honest man cannot get a jury of his peers.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (BiNEL)

349
Not from the DOJ, just from their job.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (HALdu)
Right, so they can STILL be fired and have their pensions forfeited. Win/Win

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (e284m)

350 >>Isn't it interesting that none of this would have come to light if not for that crazy sentencing instruction and the withdrawal of the 4 attorneys.

Or, just spitballing here, Barr knew what was going on and when the prosecutors knew they were caught they flounced with a sentencing guideline they knew would get blown up so they could try and play the victim of an out of control AG.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (ZLI7S)

351 "335 Isn't it interesting that none of this would have come to light if not for that crazy sentencing instruction and the withdrawal of the 4 attorneys."

Maybe it was held back.

That's the most positive take, but this whole thing makes people want to put the torch to D.C.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (puu6v)

352 Now we see why the judge keeps ruling against Stone--follow the connections with the deep state this judge has: she's a pig in the sty, wallowing in DC filth

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (vPKfA)

353 338 Yes, Tami, I stand corrected. Must be like in Massachusetts where if you are Independent, you can vote in either primary. You go into the polling place and temporarily switch to Republican or Democrat and after yu vote, switch back to Independent.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (QzF6i)

354 329: shih tzu's are well versed in the art of war. we had one for 17 years. she was very wise.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (KP5rU)

355 All will be put to rights in USSA as soon as Mandatory Voting happens, Comrades. ( Press Statement from El Jefe Newsome).

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (90T4r)

356 I don't see that they've done anything wrong. Fighting a crooked judge is impossible in our system, you can only fight through it and then go to appeal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:53 PM (Kpl3J)
-------------

Yeah, Flynn's lawyer, Sidney Powell, wrote the book on it.

"Licensed to Lie."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (QyoQ9)

357 Why didn't they just make the prosecutors the jurors.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (6jhIN)

358 WTF, I can't fucking believe how low we have sunk. When fair trials are nowhere to be found what are the alternatives? Throw this case the fuck out. Prosecute the rogue juror, dismiss the judge. Burn it to the ground the alternative is civil war.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (0OmEj)

359 Slight correction: She changed it to Independent.
Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (cF8AT)

That article was interesting. There was a person who posts on here who does knitting who was talking about the site called Ravelry (?) and how crazily left wing it had gotten. I guess that woman who wrote the essay was one of the ones who wasn't crazily left wing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (WI7YS)

360 2nd look at removing their thumbs?

Posted by: x at February 13, 2020 12:49 PM (nFwvY)

........



That's mean. How would they jerk off?

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 12:51 PM (v0R5T)



What if two swallows carried a bit of creeper vine between them?

Posted by: 2nd Castle Guard at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (q1Pj5)

361 Meanwhile, a particular skidmark on the undershorts of the body politic (that self identifies as "Rick Wilson") is doubling down on Stone deserving the 7-9 years...

Posted by: ptschett at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (32eGV)

362 Or, just spitballing here, Barr knew what was going on and when the prosecutors knew they were caught they flounced with a sentencing guideline they knew would get blown up so they could try and play the victim of an out of control AG.
Posted by: JackStraw at February



That is half way there. He may have communications sowing they knew they were doing wrong.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (HALdu)

363 I am so damned sick and tired of this ****.


A million postcards referencing this trial and with these words needs to be sent to every Republican elected official...including Mittens.
They need to know the natives are getting pissed.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (axyOa)

364 Maybe Cocaine Mitch can get the ball rolling to impeach this judge and then let the likes of Schumer and Schiff, attorneys at losing, defend her.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (wYKCM)

365 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Jeph Sessions at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (oVJmc)

366 I want to see Trump go after this judge.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (H8QX8)

367 The tragic part is that black people have been trying to warn us *for decades* of how the justice system works in the Democrat-run cities, and we let the Democrats use our sense of morality and law-and-order against us in or to convince us they were lying.

They weren't. Blacks have been trying to tell us for years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (R6B3R)

368 361 Meanwhile, a particular skidmark on the undershorts of the body politic (that self identifies as "Rick Wilson") is doubling down on Stone deserving the 7-9 years...
Posted by: ptschett at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (32eGV)

That's an insult to skid marks.

Posted by: joncelli of the Gray Council at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (RD7QR)

369
Their hate makes them reckless.
++++++++

Their hate makes them stupid.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (QzF6i)

370 "I made sure we went through every element of every charge...that led us to return a conviction of guilty on all 7 counts".

huh, go figure.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (e284m)

371 289 Isn't Mark Steyn's Mann case wallowing away in DC circuit court?

That is one aspect I do not understand, why judges will continually allow delays and crazy stalling tactics in cases like this. Its been years. Clearly justice is not being served.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 12:46 PM (KZzsI)


Over the years I've been sued twice and I long ago came to the conclusion that the judges were getting kick backs from the attorneys requesting the delays. I've yet to see any evidence that would indicate my theory is incorrect.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (kUmUV)

372 he's not as good at it. Thus you get horse-scat like "the shape of our
democracy," like it's kind of rectangular or something.

--

Yeah, lol. "The shape of our democracy shapes things..." or some ridiculous stupidity. It's shocking that people hear something so dumb and meaningless and think, yeah, that guy's got it!

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (JoUsr)

373 Cry more about "Muh Norms,' libs.

Goddamn ratfuckers.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (a9E+R)

374 The hate has eaten out their brains

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (wYKCM)

375 "358 WTF, I can't fucking believe how low we have sunk. When fair trials are nowhere to be found what are the alternatives? Throw this case the fuck out. Prosecute the rogue juror, dismiss the judge. Burn it to the ground the alternative is civil war."

This judge should be impeached by the House.

I cannot think of a better platform for the RNCC.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 01:00 PM (puu6v)

376 Cat Ass Trophy: "Then I guess it was not possible to gather a jury of stones peers, therefore the jurisdiction should have been changed."

I think we're finding out now how "justice" has really been working all these years. Where corruption is possible, there will be corruption. Once again an institution the collective "we" have trusted all our lives should not have been and we were naive and perhaps foolish.

More masks are falling and that will be Trump's lasting legacy. Not economy, not national security, not sovereignty, not energy independence, not any of those things. Those are transient. No, Trump will have shown just how deep the corruption has been and just as equally how broad. It might well be the embryonic form of the next Revolution.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 13, 2020 01:00 PM (6eEQ+)

377 Not from the DOJ, just from their job.
Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (HALdu)


A wise man doesn't just casually give up a chance to stay on the comfortable Civil Service tit, at least until the even more luxurious taxpayer funded retirement tit becomes available!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:00 PM (BiNEL)

378 No fair trial for you? Hey no problem. Just run and hide in outback Alaska. Maybe find an abandoned city bus to hole up in. Wait for some miraculous change to occur.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 01:00 PM (90T4r)

379 >>> I now know, and have to face, that our top judicial branch is thoroughly rife with corruption.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2020 12:50 PM (JoUsr)

This is why McConnell getting new conservative/ constitutional judges appointed might be the most important legacy of the Trump years, after the economy.

War turtle is feckless in some areas, but he takes the judicial appointees very, very seriously. Sailing through as many as he can.

Posted by: LizLem at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (hvf9s)

380 Our legal system really is so screwed, and just remember, all of this is happening in Trump's/Barr's DOJ. 

Imagine what happens when Dems get control again. 

Posted by: Blago at February 13, 2020 12:22 PM 

Take a bow.


National divorce time.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (M20vx)

381 346 Daily caller has an update. Has some of her selection testimony.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (6jhIN)

See #108

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (cF8AT)

382 The house is not going to do anything but Roberts better hammer the whore.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (HALdu)

383

The MFM will still report this as Trump pressures DoJ on Stone case and 4 experienced prosecutors quit in protest and that's all most people will hear on this

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (QxgFp)

384 You ever get the sense that we're right at the brink. I've had this feeling lately that some shit is going to happen that's going to push things over the edge. Just way too much going on right now right in the open.

Posted by: The guy who usually follows the guy who states So It Begins at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (Z7tWz)

385 *looks at side-bar*

Looks like Doll Eyes Alex is looking for a new gig.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (wYKCM)

386 No fair trial for you? Hey no problem. Just run and
hide in outback Alaska. Maybe find an abandoned city bus to hole up in.
Wait for some miraculous change to occur.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 01:00 PM (90T4r)


Be a friend to all bears.

Posted by: Tim Treadwell at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (q1Pj5)

387 Prosecute the rogue juror, dismiss the judge. Burn it to the ground the alternative is civil war.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (0OmEj)

You might can prosecute the juror, but in DC you'd never convict.

And you can't "dismiss" a Federal Judge. Only (legal) recourse is Impeachment, so let's go ask Nancy Pelosi to file those articles for us.

I think people are starting to get a view into just how corrupt the DC System is, and why it has been so hard for Trump to start taking any bites out of it. The entire thing is a huge, interlocked system tightly controlled by our enemies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (Kpl3J)

388 A wise man doesn't just casually give up a chance to stay on the comfortable Civil Service tit, at least until the even more luxurious taxpayer funded retirement tit becomes available!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February




yes

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (HALdu)

389 Their hate makes them reckless.
++++++++

Their hate makes them stupid.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (QzF6i)

The hate has eaten out their brains

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (wYKCM)
..........

Their hate makes them ugly.

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (v0R5T)

390 361 Meanwhile, a particular skidmark on the undershorts of the body politic (that self identifies as "Rick Wilson") is doubling down on Stone deserving the 7-9 years...
Posted by: ptschett at February 13, 2020 12:58 PM (32eGV)

--

Wouldn't you just loooove to be some powerful DOJ attorney with the ability to comb through Rick Wilson's life and find just one undotted "i" and process crime his carcass right into the clink? I sure would.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (JoUsr)

391 >>> Trump is gonna hafta pardon Stone, but not until after November. Stone's attorneys should seek delays until then.

Might as well give the Dems something to scream about for the next 4 years.

Maybe a few will rage-stroke. I have a list.
Posted by: GnuBreed


Win or lose in November, many high profile pardons will, deservedly, be coming down the pike.

Posted by: 6to4to3 at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (Z/Q5q)

392 Or, just spitballing here, Barr knew what was going on and when the prosecutors knew they were caught they flounced with a sentencing guideline they knew would get blown up so they could try and play the victim of an out of control AG.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (ZLI7S)

I reeeeeally want to know what the bogus sentencing guidelines were that they told to Barr.

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (cF8AT)

393 Their hate makes them stupid.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 12:59 PM (QzF6i)

Plus a sense of completely impervious entitlement.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (H8QX8)

394 301 Somewhere around year 8, and that's just for discovery issues. Nowhere near to the civil 'trial'.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (XF4b

Must be nice to be able to put someone on the hook for 8 years' worth of Billable Hours.

Posted by: Allie at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (UnA8+)

395 376 Cat Ass Trophy: "Then I guess it was not possible to gather a jury of stones peers, therefore the jurisdiction should have been changed."

I think we're finding out now how "justice" has really been working all these years. Where corruption is possible, there will be corruption. Once again an institution the collective "we" have trusted all our lives should not have been and we were naive and perhaps foolish.

More masks are falling and that will be Trump's lasting legacy. Not economy, not national security, not sovereignty, not energy independence, not any of those things. Those are transient. No, Trump will have shown just how deep the corruption has been and just as equally how broad. It might well be the embryonic form of the next Revolution.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 13, 2020 01:00 PM (6eEQ+)

The greatest restraint on the court system is jurors. Which suck situationally, but at least for general cases tend to be alright. Rest of it is crap.

Posted by: Someguy at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM (Zm+LZ)

396 You know the answer here people - we're a bunch of go**amed racists, that's what this is.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (e284m)

397 I don't know if stone's lawyers were good bad or indifferant, but what I do know is that when the Federal Gov comes after you with all their resources and money being no obstacle, it is a mighty hill wall to scale. Which is why most of these things never go to trail but are pleaded out. And And And when the Judge is in on it, well good luck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (nRk/c)

398 The shape of our democracy is phallic and it's aimed right at my hungry hole!

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (215Jn)

399 Once again, PDT has been given the gift of the stupidest, most amoral enemies known to man.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (Y4EXg)

400 National divorce time.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (M20vx)

Fuck that. They will get nothing and like it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (1CjJc)

401 Any of the poll trolls around?

I think it's fun sometimes when they post their ridiculously biased stuff to make up numbers about ridiculous things and post as a sock.
You know, such as: "82.6 % will not vote for Trump because his spray on tan is a source of global warming." That kind of thing. I guess that I'm easily amused.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (WI7YS)

402 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (7Q7Ca)

403 329: shih tzu's are well versed in the art of war. we had one for 17 years. she was very wise.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 13, 2020 12:56 PM (KP5rU)
----------
I long for 17 years - we've had 3 and he's lasted the longest so far. Our first we lost at 8 and everyone in our immediate family still brings him up. We lost our 2nd at 10 a couple years ago, I think about her every day.

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (/ZYFC)

404 Fuck you.

#WAR

Posted by: Sponge at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (7Q7Ca)

405 If only there ware a media presence at the courthouse during this trial. Not a microphone to be found outside!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


The judge placed a gag order on Stone.

So now what?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (ILS6+)

406 When you always win, you stop being careful.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (e284m)

407 Fuck that. They will get nothing and like it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February



Never understand why so many here are interested in giving half my country to guys that hate me

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (HALdu)

408 Along with pardons, Trump should sign an EO to remove sovereign immunity for the key players here so they can be financially destroyed.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (puu6v)

409 That's the night the lights went out in D.C. . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (q1Pj5)

410 >>I reeeeeally want to know what the bogus sentencing guidelines were that they told to Barr.

I assume it was probably in the 2-4 year range but yea, I want to see it to.

Imagine what will be happening by the time Barr testifies in front of Fat Nadler's committee at the end of March. This is hearing is going to be must see TV.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (ZLI7S)

411 All will be put to rights in USSA as soon as Mandatory Voting happens, Comrades. ( Press Statement from El Jefe Newsome).

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (90T4r)


I think that is supposed to be Mandatory Public Voting, comrade. Show the courage of your convictions in public!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (BiNEL)

412 That article was interesting. There was a person who posts on here who does knitting who was talking about the site called Ravelry (?) and how crazily left wing it had gotten. I guess that woman who wrote the essay was one of the ones who wasn't crazily left wing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (WI7YS)

Did you read any of the stories in the replies? Unbelievable what people have put up with from lefty relatives!

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (cF8AT)

413 Going back to my Trump is like a giant MRI machine revealing just how corrupt these people are. You could not make this stuff up, like the members of Mueller's team, the same hand picked agents covering up Hillary's crimes then inventing Trump's crimes. The examples of how intertwined all these people are to democrat politics. We need a forensic examination of these networks.

Posted by: iandeal at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (vgGyZ)

414 >>Fuck that. They will get nothing and like it.

So a divorce then.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (ZLI7S)

415 403: sorry to hear that. they are great companions. i still miss ours.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (KP5rU)

416 I've been sued twice and I long ago came to the conclusion that the judges were getting kick backs from the attorneys requesting the delays.

I can't see any other explanation for how they behave. Although in this case it might just be ideological, some AGW hysteric judge who is trying to help Mann and destroy Steyn.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2020 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

417 343 Any of the poll trolls around?

More than 6 in 10 Americans say they feel better off after first 3 years of Trump, poll finds


A recent Gallup poll has some encouraging news for President Donald Trump as his battle for
reelection heats up: more than six in 10Americans say they are better
off than they were three years ago when he took office, and about the
same numbercredit him for the improvement. No incumbent
president in the past three decades has enjoyed such a high percentage
of people feeling better about their situations.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (QxgFp)
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That's from the outlier Gallup poll from a few weeks ago. No other poll has shown the same results.

Posted by: ggreg at February 13, 2020 01:06 PM (045k4)

418
183 23
Prosecutors and the Judge had to know about this.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2020 12:15 PM (9N8Q0)

Why didn't Stone's lawyers know about this also and forcefully object to her being accepted on the jury?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (CQ3Qb)


Keeping it would involve a lot of messy splodey, stabby stuff. We are not there, YET, IMO, but trending that way.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 01:06 PM (90T4r)

419
Fuck that. They will get nothing and like it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (1CjJc)

Ah ok. Then tyranny it is.

Because this shit ain't getting fixed.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at February 13, 2020 01:06 PM (M20vx)

420 While daily reports of how deep the rot is can be depressing, I find the thought of how many years/decades that the American people have been lied to that we don't know about to be even worse.

Posted by: Cheri at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (oiNtH)

421 Along with pardons, Trump should sign an EO to remove sovereign immunity for the key players here so they can be financially destroyed.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (puu6v)


This is probably one of the most critical actions that must be undertaken, but is so rarely mentioned!

The problem is there are too many legislators (R, D, I, U) that could get caught up in this, once the investigations started.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (BiNEL)

422 Why didn't Stone's lawyers know about this also and forcefully object to her being accepted on the jury?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 12:32 PM (CQ3Qb)


They would have to strenuously object!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)

423 414
>>Fuck that. They will get nothing and like it.



So a divorce then.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (ZLI7S)
Quiet. You're baked.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (1CjJc)

424 406 When you always win, you stop being careful.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (e284m)

That's it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (H8QX8)

425 Must be nice to be able to put someone on the hook for 8 years' worth of Billable Hours.
Posted by: Allie at February 13, 2020 01:02 PM


Meh. Cattle futures and graft are actually more profitable.

Posted by: Hillary! at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (AkZPA)

426 384 You ever get the sense that we're right at the brink. I've had this feeling lately that some shit is going to happen that's going to push things over the edge. Just way too much going on right now right in the open.
Posted by: The guy who usually follows the guy who states So It Begins at February 13, 2020 01:01 PM (Z7tWz)

If you want to get a little bit of optimism, then consider this - at least it finally IS going on in the open. It's been going on behind closed doors for at least 10 - 20 years now. Maybe a lot more None of this is new, you're just being exposed to it now.

A lot of good people are finally waking up to the fact that the Branch Davidian fiasco truly was a case of the Federal Government openly and deliberately slaughtering over 50 innocent people, just so an agency could make its budgetary requests look good. And then every arm of the Fed Government engaged in a deliberate whitewash and cover up of what they had done, and everyone involved knew it. Same goes for Randy Weaver.

Our government has been deeply, deeply corrupt for a long, long time. Ordinary people are finally starting to realize it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (Kpl3J)

427 Speaking of Mayo Peter:

https://tinyurl.com/wa83olc

You're welcome.

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

428 420
While daily reports of how deep the rot is can be depressing, I find the
thought of how many years/decades that the American people have been
lied to that we don't know about to be even worse.





Posted by: Cheri at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (oiNtH)
It gets worse than that. People don't give a crap. Does it affect them - directly? If not, then their reply is "Meh."

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (N39Ws)

429 I long for 17 years - we've had 3 and he's lasted the longest so far. Our first we lost at 8 and everyone in our immediate family still brings him up. We lost our 2nd at 10 a couple years ago, I think about her every day.

We had two that we inherited from my mother, and they both made it to 17.

Posted by: JEM at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (8erNz)

430 How on earth did the judge -- who gagged Roger Stone himself during his
trial -- allow a Russian collusion hoaxer who ran for Congress as a
Democrat, was a practicing attorney, and was posting about Trump during
the trial to sit on the jury as its foreman?

__________


Just the mere fact alone that she was a practicing attorney would normally automatically caused her to be excluded from serving on the jury.

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 13, 2020 01:09 PM (ssq6O)

431 We all know she was out there wearing a pussy hat on Inauguration Day

Posted by: MAGA at February 13, 2020 01:09 PM (bloh/)

432 Who called out the poll trolls? That was a mistake.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 01:09 PM (QzF6i)

433 >>While daily reports of how deep the rot is can be depressing, I find the thought of how many years/decades that the American people have been lied to that we don't know about to be even worse.

Bring it all out into the sunlight is the only way it will ever get dealt with. All this corruption only works when they do it without scrutiny.

Expose all of it and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2020 01:09 PM (ZLI7S)

434 343 Any of the poll trolls around?

More than 6 in 10 Americans say they feel better off after first 3 years of Trump, poll finds


A recent Gallup poll has some encouraging news for President Donald Trump as his battle for
reelection heats up: more than six in 10Americans say they are better
off than they were three years ago when he took office, and about the
same numbercredit him for the improvement. No incumbent
president in the past three decades has enjoyed such a high percentage
of people feeling better about their situations.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 13, 2020 12:55 PM (QxgFp)


Haven't you heard? The only poll that currently matters to them is for North Carolina conducted by some podunk university. This proves Trump is finished.

Don't ask for a link or what the sampling was though because the troll never provided that.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (G2zl5)

435 So this SJW was Bill Gates senior director his foundation? A look at even her scrubbed Twitter feed indicates she is a a strident, hard left activist Screw all these tech companies.

Posted by: Ripley at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (MxEKc)

436 While daily reports of how deep the rot is can be depressing, I find the thought of how many years/decades that the American people have been lied to that we don't know about to be even worse.

Posted by: Cheri at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (oiNtH)
--------

We have been in 'ignorance is bliss" territory for several decades now.

Posted by: Undocumented at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (Y08Vx)

437 Because this shit ain't getting fixed.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at February



Don't wget your knickers in a twist everything is going to be fine

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (HALdu)

438 @RealJamesWoods

And a lovely good morning from #NancyPelosi's district in San Francisco!

https://tinyurl.com/qkk5x25

(If you're eating lunch, don't watch)

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (cF8AT)

439 359
Slight correction: She changed it to Independent.

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 12:54 PM (cF8AT)



That article was interesting. There was a person who posts on here
who does knitting who was talking about the site called Ravelry (?) and
how crazily left wing it had gotten. I guess that woman who wrote the
essay was one of the ones who wasn't crazily left wing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 12:57 PM (WI7YS)

Spouses Cassidy (nee Casey) and Jessica Forbes founded Ravelry in May 2007. Their idea was to create a web presence for all fiber artists.

On June 23, 2019, Ravelry announced via a blog post that it would ban expressions of support of U.S. president Donald Trump and his administration.The reason given was an incompatibility of Ravelry's policy of inclusiveness with the Trump administration's "support for open white supremacy". The details of the policy were adapted from a similar policy established by tabletop role-playing community RPGnet in October 2018.

I guess only some fiber artists

Posted by: Groundhog at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (VYwSh)

440 Their side is stabby, our side is not. This might be an oversimplification of the current state of affairs.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (90T4r)

441 To get rid of a Federal Judge in today's system, you have to start with Nancy Pelosi filing a bill in her Congress to start the ball rolling. 

So that ain't gonna happen. 
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 12:29 PM (Kpl3J) 

I imagine federal judges can be arrested if the DOJ has her arrested for conspiracy to violate the civil rights of the defendant, gross negligence, etc. If your average doctor or executive violated the fiduciary duty/ standard of care this badly, you can bet they would be escorted out in handcuffs.

I stress that I'm not losing sleep if Trump/ Barr take this very obvious step or not. They might not even hand out pardons, because that would imply guilt. The fact is, if the judges think they are above the law there are alternatives to begging Nancy Pelosi for a removal.

Posted by: trev006 at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (vHsIC)

442 421
Along with pardons, Trump should sign an EO to remove sovereign
immunity for the key players here so they can be financially destroyed.



Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (puu6v)



This is probably one of the most critical actions that must be undertaken, but is so rarely mentioned!



The problem is there are too many legislators (R, D, I, U) that could get caught up in this, once the investigations started.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (BiNEL)
Fail to see the downside with that. At this point, I don't care if 40 Rethugican Congresscritters get swept away because of corruption. I really don't care what letter they have after their name. The swamp has to be drained.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (N39Ws)

443 Just the mere fact alone that she was a practicing attorney would normally automatically caused her to be excluded from serving on the jury.

Maybe there just isn't any sentient creature in DC capable of understanding instructions that's not a JD?

Posted by: JEM at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (8erNz)

444
Don't wget your knickers in a twist everything is going to be fine

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:

Oh ok.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (M20vx)

445
Don't ask for a link or what the sampling was though because the troll never provided that.

------

Would seem like a reason to ask for it.

Posted by: Undocumented at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (Y08Vx)

446 We need a forensic examination of these networks.
Posted by: iandeal at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM


I'm a little rusty, but willing to help.

Posted by: Novell of Orem, UT at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (AkZPA)

447 Justice and law are dead, and G-d help us all if significant numbers of regular people become hip to it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2020 12:48 PM (I2dne)

I've got jury duty next week. Going to wear an Epstein Didn't Kill Himself shirt. If they have any sense, they'll give up and send me home right then.


Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (J+mig)

448 Stuff like this is why there are now people openly stating that if called to serve on a federal jury they will vote to acquit, no matter the evidence, just because they don't trust the government anymore.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (Wp9jy)

449 428 420
While daily reports of how deep the rot is can be depressing, I find the
thought of how many years/decades that the American people have been
lied to that we don't know about to be even worse.





Posted by: Cheri at February 13, 2020 01:07 PM (oiNtH)
It gets worse than that. People don't give a crap. Does it affect them - directly? If not, then their reply is "Meh."
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2020 01:08 PM (N39Ws)

Are you referring to the " more than 10 miles from my house" theory?

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (90T4r)

450 Ravelry, where the guy that coded the site decided to pretend he's a she.

The article mentioned has been making the rounds of the WalkAway from Ravelry Facebook group. It's interesting how we all seem to have managed without that website in our lives.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (JKNZq)

451 Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:05 PM (cF8AT)

I hadn't read the replies. I'll have to look at those. I avoid this by having a spouse who came over to the dark side (ie. never vote Dem again) with me, being friends with those don't want to discuss politics and only one relative who doesn't go their either because she thinks I'd snap her nose off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (WI7YS)

452 Top 500

Posted by: FrodoB,
because hobbits don't wear socks at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (veJcn)

453 426: the las vegas can of worms needs to be exposed for all to see. the official story is about as believable as an old starsky and hutch episode. they don't even try anymore.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (KP5rU)

454 Malig-Nancy says no to impeachment of Barr. You know what that means. Putin has her in his pocket.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (+y/Ru)

455 Were I Stone or Flynn and I had the resources to get through this mess or even friends to assist, I would ride this shit out all the way and make certain everybody knew everything and everybody that deserved screwing got it.

Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (HALdu)

456 And a lovely good morning from #NancyPelosi's district in San Francisco!

https://tinyurl.com/qkk5x25

(If you're eating lunch, don't watch)
Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (cF8AT)
..........

How convenient. Sit on the pot, then wipe with the leaves.

Posted by: wth at February 13, 2020 01:13 PM (v0R5T)

457 Nood.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 13, 2020 01:13 PM (3sOO0)

458 438 @RealJamesWoods

And a lovely good morning from #NancyPelosi's district in San Francisco!

https://tinyurl.com/qkk5x25

(If you're eating lunch, don't watch)
Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (cF8AT)


------

The good news, it's not on the sidewalk!

Posted by: Undocumented at February 13, 2020 01:13 PM (Y08Vx)

459 Don't wget your knickers in a twist everything is going to be fine
Posted by: not so at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM


We can remain calm?

Posted by: Mammiform Protuberances at February 13, 2020 01:13 PM (AkZPA)

460 Just so you know, there is a good chance that once I post this, you will probably get willowed.
(I am trying to make Journeyman.)

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (QzF6i)

461 454 Malig-Nancy says no to impeachment of Barr. You know what that means. Putin has her in his pocket.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (+y/Ru)

K chortu! Get it out!

Posted by: Tsar Vladimir I at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (RD7QR)

462 Which is why most of these things never go to trail but are pleaded out. And And And when the Judge is in on it, well good luck
_______________

Trial judges wield enormous power. If you get one who decides he/she is going to screw you, practically speaking there is very little you can do about it. Doesn't matter how good your attorney is.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (k4dH2)

463 Virginia just signed on to the electoral college negation bill.
Next up, illegals get VA driver's licenses, good for voter ID...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (BiNEL)

464 402 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at February 13, 2020 01:03 PM (7Q7Ca)

There it is

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (l4C/z)

465 454 Malig-Nancy says no to impeachment of Barr. You know what that means. Putin has her in his pocket.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 13, 2020 01:12 PM (+y/Ru)

=========

I'm sure that the supporters of Russian stooge Bernie Sanders will be aghast.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (q80AH)

466 I imagine federal judges can be arrested if the DOJ has her arrested for conspiracy to violate the civil rights of the defendant, gross negligence, etc. If your average doctor or executive violated the fiduciary duty/ standard of care this badly, you can bet they would be escorted out in handcuffs."

You forgot about Sovereign Immunity, which applies to office holders. Judges cannot be arrested or even charged for anything they do as part of their jobs. Technically, a Judge violates a defendant's civil rights every time they sentence them to prison. That's why Judges are so important, and so powerful; they get a free pass to offend the civil rights of anyone they choose. Don't like it? File an appeal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 13, 2020 01:16 PM (Kpl3J)

467 @RealJamesWoods



And a lovely good morning from #NancyPelosi's district in San Francisco!



https://tinyurl.com/qkk5x25



(If you're eating lunch, don't watch)

Posted by: Tami at February 13, 2020 01:10 PM (cF8AT)


Working on some night soil
With bushes on their own, way up firm and high

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2020 01:16 PM (q1Pj5)

468 See, I told you.NOOD

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 01:16 PM (QzF6i)

469 Congresscritters get swept away because of corruption. I really don't care what letter they have after their name. The swamp has to be drained.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (N39Ws)


Guess who writes the laws, a staff of a thousand corrupt lawyers that look out for the corrupt congresscritters!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:17 PM (BiNEL)

470 468

Newbie!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 13, 2020 01:18 PM (BiNEL)

471 Trial judges wield enormous power. If you get one who decides he/she is going to screw you, practically speaking there is very little you can do about it. Doesn't matter how good your attorney is.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM (k4dH2)
-------------

Yep.

Wife worked in the legal system.

A biased judge and your case is toast.

And, because judges are all part of the "good ole boy" network, you have to step lightly, because complaints can get a law firm on the wrong side of other judges.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 13, 2020 01:18 PM (QyoQ9)

472 460 Just so you know, there is a good chance that once I post this, you will probably get willowed.
(I am trying to make Journeyman.)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2020 01:14 PM


The nood was posted at 457. Nice try, though, Grasshopper.

Posted by: Master Po at February 13, 2020 01:18 PM (AkZPA)

473 The judge placed a gag order on Stone.



So now what?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2020 01:04 PM (ILS6+)

Leak it. Nobody faces any consequences for that any more.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 13, 2020 01:19 PM (CQ3Qb)

474
Leak it. Nobody faces any consequences for that any more.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


If they're defending a republican they will and do.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2020 01:23 PM (ILS6+)

475 Just the mere fact alone that she was a practicing attorney would normally automatically caused her to be excluded from serving on the jury.
Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 13, 2020 01:09 PM


A lot of people think so, but I've been seated before. I don't know anyone around here who was bumped just for being a lawyer. Regrettably, that won't get you off jury duty.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 13, 2020 01:24 PM (ejd/p)

476 And yet Cuck Williamson, the Anton LeVay incarnate, wrote a column in NR why Stone need to go to jail for life.

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at February 13, 2020 01:24 PM (GS42F)

477 476 And yet Cuck Williamson, the Anton LeVay incarnate, wrote a column in NR why Stone need to go to jail for life.
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at February 13, 2020 01:24 PM (GS42F)
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I'm so glad I cancelled my NR subscription decades ago.

I wonder if Stone's lawyer will try to do anything, or if the judge is so corrupt, she'l just let things stand.

Posted by: Iblis at February 13, 2020 01:30 PM (9221z)

478 've got jury duty next week. Going to wear an Epstein Didn't Kill Himself shirt. If they have any sense, they'll give up and send me home right then.


Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at February 13, 2020 01:11 PM (J+mig)

That makes you part of the problem. Too many good, right-thinking people are avoiding jury duty, and basically ceding that ground to the Leftists.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2020 01:30 PM (LxWV7)

479 Courts are universally hostile to finding fault with jury selection or juror misconduct after a verdict has been accepted.

Other blogs see a MIGHTY APPEAL resulting from this, but regretfully, I don't.

Running through cases of reversals for juror misconduct, it has to be godawful. This isn't going to ring the reversed & remanded bell, imo.

Hope I'm wrong. Also hope that Trump commutes Stone's sentence, as well as Flynn's (pardon for Flynn).

Posted by: mnw at February 13, 2020 01:32 PM (Cssks)

480 Being a practicing attorney does NOT automatically excuse you from jury service, & many practicing attys have served on juries, including moi (as an alternate, but that counts).

Posted by: mnw at February 13, 2020 01:35 PM (Cssks)

481 this is like that time that fruit Lord Kitchener rigged Breaker Morant's trial and denied him his right to appeal and had him shot for following Kitchener's illegal order. Lord Kitchener later died at sea in his lover's manly arms.

Posted by: x at February 13, 2020 01:36 PM (nFwvY)

482 Dopey dems are convinced that Roger Stone is a Big Player, so they think they did some damage with all this nonsense.

Posted by: Chris W at February 13, 2020 01:50 PM (HPcI7)

483 Curiously, I look forward to jury duty. Frankly, I feel that my good judgement is better than 100% of the jurors that I have served with.

Jurors (and, the attorneys know this well) are easily susceptible to emotional manipulation. You have to be prepared to snap them out of that by straightforward, obvious reasoning.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at February 13, 2020 01:59 PM (CDGwz)

484 You get unlimited challenges for cause and just a handful of preemptory challenges (you can kick off a few juror without establishing cause to the satisfaction of the judge). However, if the judge denies your challenges for cause you have to be strategic with your use of peremptory challenges. If everyone in the jury pool is a nightmare (and in DC that is most certainly the case) you can easy get stuck with a horribly biased juror. It come down to the judge. She probably set a very high bar for challenges for cause. General political bias was probably not enough. The juror had to have shown bias towards Stone.

I do cases in LA where cops sometimes testify. During voir dire the jurors will be asked if they are more or less likely to believe a black witness, and no one will raise their hand, no one will admit to being racists. But when we ask if anyone is more or less likely to believe a cop, every potential black juror raises their hand, says they will not believe a word a cop says and gets kick off the jury. They are hurting their own cause. They should lie like the racists and get on the jury and influence its outcome. Not be honest and get kicked for cause. They don't even require the cop's side to use a preemptory.

Posted by: tommylotto at February 13, 2020 02:36 PM (dYinJ)

485 There is no such thing as a Democrat judge. We are all pure as the driven yellow snow.

Posted by: Dread Justice Roberts at February 13, 2020 03:05 PM (AfWDD)

486 Not to worry, Judge Amy Berman Jackson is a cretin who will let Tomeka Hart slide

Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2020 03:30 PM (3aI0K)

487 The entire jury is going to turn out to Mueller Team 2.0; all biased partisan Democrats.

Posted by: West at February 13, 2020 03:48 PM (8+UNJ)

488 484 You get unlimited challenges for cause and just a handful of preemptory challenges (you can kick off a few juror without establishing cause to the satisfaction of the judge). However, if the judge denies your challenges for cause you have to be strategic with your use of peremptory challenges. If everyone in the jury pool is a nightmare (and in DC that is most certainly the case) you can easy get stuck with a horribly biased juror. It come down to the judge. She probably set a very high bar for challenges for cause. General political bias was probably not enough. The juror had to have shown bias towards Stone.

I do cases in LA where cops sometimes testify. During voir dire the jurors will be asked if they are more or less likely to believe a black witness, and no one will raise their hand, no one will admit to being racists. But when we ask if anyone is more or less likely to believe a cop, every potential black juror raises their hand, says they will not believe a word a cop says and gets kick off the jury. They are hurting their own cause. They should lie like the racists and get on the jury and influence its outcome. Not be honest and get kicked for cause. They don't even require the cop's side to use a preemptory.
Posted by: tommylotto at February 13, 2020 02:36 PM (dYinJ)

Objection: Evidence not presented taken as a given: That all white people are racist but won't admit it.

Posted by: West at February 13, 2020 03:51 PM (8+UNJ)

489 Was she perchance also a filthy Jew whore???

Posted by: Mark Matis at February 13, 2020 04:33 PM (nZJej)

490 So far several liberal idiots stole and destroyed someones MAGA hat and was fired fr their stupidity

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 13, 2020 04:47 PM (wGqjj)

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