California Transportation Update [KT]

High-speed train flies through downtown Fresno

Good morning! It's a little chilly there in the Central Valley of California, but it will be nice later in the day. Unfortunately, Democrats are in full control in California now. Here are a few of the nitty gritty results with regard to the current transportation situation. Just in case anybody out there is still thinking about moving here.

Public Transportation, San Francisco

Well, they have finished that remarkably expensive train (or bus) station in San Francisco, and repaired the major cracks that developed in the structure.

But now,

Ten million fewer riders took BART on nights and weekends last year than rode the trains just four years earlier.
The transit agency released those figures as it launched its annual two-day workshop for BART Directors on accomplishments of the past year, and the challenges ahead.
BART also released results of a rider survey of why fewer people took the trains.
The number one response was that people are just going out less on weekends.
Number two was weekend trains don't run often enough, but reasons three, four, and five were lack of cleanliness, worries about crime and concern about the homeless.

All that public transportation boosterism gone to waste.

There are other problems, though. They need a new bill to fix things:

The empty buses leaving the new Salesforce Transit Center in San Francisco suggest that the Bay Area public transportation system isn't working.
"This is supposed to be San Francisco's Grand Central Station, it's not. There is no one here," says San Francisco resident Seth Andrews, as he points around to the empty station.
Andrews uses Bart and Muni every day. He says he is frustrated with the daily delays. "The schedules, I don't trust that at all," complains Andrews about Muni trains.

State Assemblyman David Chiu (D-San Francisco) calls Bay Area public transportation "inefficient" and "unreliable."
"After investing billions of dollars in transportation in recent decades, only three percent of all Bay Area trips are made with public transit," says Assemblyman Chiu. But he thinks better integration could fix the problem.

The bill aims to set up a task force to resolve issues around ticket prices and scheduling. They need to "Move the conversation forward."

Be sure to watch how quickly this bill fixes "the problem".

High Speed Rail, Central Valley

I am seeing more actual work on the High Speed Rail line now, after seeing construction sites looking sort of abandoned, with huge equipment idled in fields and along roads, for a long time. In the cities, homeless encampments moved onto properties left idle after being bought for this project. Just like the encampments along the freeways in Los Angeles and the Bay Area, but with more dogs.

They seem to be getting serious about finishing the stupid Bakersfield to Merced high-speed rail line. The tracks, anyway. They are less serious about moving people using the rail line. The tracks are connected to federal money:

Advancing California's leadership in building a modern, clean, and sustainable transportation system, the California High-Speed Rail Authority has issued its Draft 2020 Business Plan for public review and comment. . .

The 2020 Business plan outlines the following priorities:

Complete the 119-mile Central Valley construction segment and lay track pursuant to the federal funding grant agreements with the Federal Railroad Administration;

Expand the 119-mile Central Valley segment to 171 miles of operable electrified high-speed rail connecting Merced-Fresno-Bakersfield, three of the fastest growing areas in California;

Commence testing of electrified high-speed trains by 2025 and put those trains in service by 2028-29 . .

The rest of their plans involve "bookends". Los Angeles and San Francisco. Can you think of anything to say during the public comment period that would make a difference?

Cars, Sacramento County

Sacramento County says it's illegal to work on your own car in your own garage.

One commenter on the Grassroots Motorsports forum reported that he'd already been issued a $430 fine for working on his car in his garage:
nimblemotorsports said:

umm, I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, that costs $700 to complain.
These rules aren't from some fussy HOA, it's an entire county. As to why the county is so against home automotive repair and work, they state this reason:
5. Why is Code Enforcement Concerned About Residential Automotive Repair?

The chemicals involved in major automobile repair can pollute our neighborhoods and endanger the health and wellbeing of our residents. Furthermore, this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic and the visual impact can negatively impact property values.

It appears that "major automobile repair" is anything you don't finish within 24 hours. Or something. It's kind of vague.

I think it's kind of racist, too. I have in mind a certain "community" that likes to work on cars in front yards. But that's not what the code says. It covers garages, too. Why is there a "visual impact" if the work is in a garage?

Music

Not being able to work on your own car would have put a damper on the popularity of the Beach Boys back in the day.

Hope you have a great weekend.

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1 Gray day today.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:23 AM (pw+jk)

2 A numero uno and read all the content?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:24 AM (pw+jk)

3 You know who else promised to make the trains run on time...

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 11:24 AM (gHCnG)

4 says Assemblyman Chiu. But he thinks better integration could fix the problem.

I'm thinking some synergy, inclusion, dynamics, and you got yourself a winner!

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:25 AM (vd8XM)

5 Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2020 11:25 AM (tQaZ2)

6 If you think the problems that Kalifornia democrats cause are terrible and hilarious, wait until you see their solutions.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:25 AM (pw+jk)

7 "After investing billions of dollars in transportation in recent decades, only three percent of all Bay Area trips are made with public transit," says Assemblyman Chiu. But he thinks better integration could fix the problem.

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I speak politico - I can translate:

More money is needed!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 15, 2020 11:25 AM (Y4EXg)

8 So Kalifornia is working on the big brother of glorious soviet five year plan, the ten year plan.
The future will be glorious comrades, GLORIOUS!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:27 AM (pw+jk)

9 Cali is getting the government they elected good and hard.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 15, 2020 11:27 AM (EK+jJ)

10 I speak politico - I can translate:

More money is needed!
Posted by: Tonypete

What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:28 AM (vd8XM)

11 Cali Dems are beyond horrible, and the Republicans running for office in most cases are pretty pathetic. It's a miserable relationship.

Posted by: IC at February 15, 2020 11:28 AM (sYDum)

12 Today's Dad joke:

Why do melons always have weddings?

Because they cantaloupe.

Posted by: Dogstar at February 15, 2020 11:29 AM (ACcb3)

13 says Assemblyman Chiu. But he thinks better integration could fix the problem.

I'm thinking some synergy, inclusion, dynamics, and you got yourself a winner!

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:25 AM (vd8XM)

==
It just won't work unless we have...
Wait for it...
You know what is coming...
Almost there..

DIVERSITY.
It is our greatest strength!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM (pw+jk)

14 California, you got the rest of the union, to help you along.

What's going wrong?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

15 A Bill to set up a Task Force.
Gawd.
Really?
More like setting up a funnel to route tax payers dollars to the bank accounts of elected officials.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM (axyOa)

16

Geez, went and read the content again.
Never expecting that what I never expect to happen,,, and never try for...

Not the reason I dropped in anyway.
Just wanted to mention that, as with every day but especially on days where he puts himself 'out there,' protection prayers for our president are in order.

Posted by: teej at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM (g1guD)

17 I am seeing more actual work on the High Speed Rail line now, after seeing construction sites looking sort of abandoned, with huge equipment idled in fields and along roads, for a long time.

That equipment costs money to just sit there. In all the construction projects I've worked, there is a day rate for the equipment if it's on site and not being used. After all, the construction company could put that equipment to use on other projects if it's not being used on this one.

The construction contractors must be getting paid for all that idle equipment laying around. If it has been there for a long time, why hasn't it been demobilized and then re-mobilized when construction resumes? Yes, there are charges for mob/demob of major equipment, but those charges are usually less than two months worth of idle day rate.

Somebody is dipping their beak pretty deep here, and it ain't in favor of the taxpayers.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 15, 2020 11:31 AM (17+9D)

18 But hey. Can't beat the weather in CA. Makes all the government oppression and loss of freedom worth it.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 11:31 AM (Fs5vw)

19 DIVERSITY.
It is our greatest strength!!
Posted by: Jukin

No no no, we're only going to raise the taxes on Billionaires.
Not everybody. No, not us.
Never....

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:31 AM (vd8XM)

20 One of the best songs ever

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2020 11:31 AM (lwiT4)

21 11�Cali Dems are beyond horrible, and the Republicans running for office in most cases are pretty pathetic. It's a miserable relationship.

Posted by: IC at February 15, 2020 11:

Some would call that a recipe to GTFO of the state.

Soooo glad I left in 03.

Posted by: LOL at February 15, 2020 11:31 AM (M20vx)

22 A Bill to set up a Task Force.

Gawd.

Really?

More like setting up a funnel to route tax payers dollars to the bank accounts of elected officials.
Diogenes at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM (axyOa)

===
This man knows how to translate poloticese!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:32 AM (pw+jk)

23 it's a shame CA is so fcuked up. I always wanted to see Joshua Tree, Yosemite and Death Valley. But I wouldn't dare set foot in the state. It seems everything is against the law.

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:32 AM (iTXRQ)

24 12 Today's Dad joke:

Why do melons always have weddings?

Because they cantaloupe.
Posted by: Dogstar

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That's terrible!!

*consider it stolen*

Posted by: Tonypete at February 15, 2020 11:32 AM (Y4EXg)

25 Why would you expect the same people who can't design a simple app to count people to be able to do something so large and technically complex? That, of course, is not to suggest it was ever a financially viable plan.

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:32 AM (T6t7i)

26 But I wouldn't dare set foot in the state. It seems everything is against the law.
Posted by: DB- just DB

It's now against the law to not set foot in our state.

...California...

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:33 AM (vd8XM)

27
"In the cities, homeless encampments moved onto properties left idle after being bought for this project."

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Fantasy: A homeless advocate sues the State for squatter's rights.

Blue on blue action ftw.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 11:33 AM (13CQC)

28 But hey. Can't beat the weather in CA. Makes all the government oppression and loss of freedom worth it.
Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 11:31 AM (Fs5vw)

Come to sunny Californica. It's like Canada, but with better weather and more poop on the sidewalks.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 11:33 AM (hku12)

29 The rest of their plans involve "bookends". Los Angeles and San Francisco.

This is funny. Anybody can build a high-speed train from Modesto to Bakersfield. You've got rt 99 to follow and two sets of existing railroads. It's all flat land.

To do the 'bookends'- a mere trifle, you see!- you have to cross highways, rivers, mountain ranges, and, most importantly, very expensive private property.

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 11:33 AM (aKxkI)

30 most importantly, very expensive private property.
Posted by: t-bird

Private?

Oh yeah, we'll respect that.

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:34 AM (vd8XM)

31 >>One of the best songs ever

When that song was new and I was less than 29 California seemed like a magical place.

Still like the song.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

32 >A Bill to set up a Task Force.

the task force will then meet biannually to form a working group that will generate a study to identify the problem. After two years the working group will determine that a committee is to be formed that will hire a consulting group to assist in the drafting of a state referendum. The following year...

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (iTXRQ)

33 Kalifornia, where else can you step in human feces and a needle in just one step?

That's right we are NUMER ONE!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (pw+jk)

34 "The chemicals involved in major automobile repair can pollute our
neighborhoods and endanger the health and wellbeing of our residents"

I wonder how much to they charge to dispose of oil and tranny fluid. If they provided free disposal they wouldn't be throwing oil out in ditches. But that would cut into the subsidies the corporate waste disposal outfit get.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (4thlk)

35 I really want to retire to the area around Encinitas and Leucadia.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (EK+jJ)

36
To do the 'bookends'- a mere trifle, you see!-
you have to cross highways, rivers, mountain ranges, and, most
importantly, very expensive private property.

Posted by: t-bird

Easy, they'll use solar and wind to do.....something. A mere bagatelle.

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (T6t7i)

37 If I was in California and a Republican. I would create a statewide political party that aligned with the Republicans on a national level for those offices. The common primary gives this strategy a chance.

Maybe call yourself the Reform Party or the Popular party etc. See the Minnesota DFL for example or the Conservative Party line in NY elections that used to help limit GOPe collaborationists to some extent. An independent party could also endorse the few sane Democrats left in races. It could also use the initiative process to bypass the legislative system with fixes.

The stink of the Dems and their allied interest groups creating an unliveable California makes the place ripe for such a party that focuses on returning power to localities and stripping that of the central government in Sacramento. Localism is the key to restoring California rather than trying to fix the whole state by fiat.

Unfortunately, the Republicans have more or less destroyed there brand name with gentler, kinder folks like Ahnuld.

Posted by: whig at February 15, 2020 11:36 AM (EUDB2)

38 >>One of the best songs ever

it's what fun sounds like

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:36 AM (iTXRQ)

39 The stink of the Dems and their allied interest groups creating an
unliveable California makes the place ripe for such a party that focuses
on returning power to localities and stripping that of the central
government in Sacramento.

You would think, but is there any actual evidence that the residents have connected even two dots?

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:37 AM (T6t7i)

40 it's a shame CA is so fcuked up. I always wanted to see Joshua Tree, Yosemite and Death Valley. But I wouldn't dare set foot in the state.

Those are worlds away from LA, SF, and Sacramento. It's very easy to avoid the madness. ...unless you're thinking of bringing in a plastic bag. You aren't, are you?

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 11:37 AM (dBiBP)

41 The California GOP was a confederacy of bozos back in the early 90s, this ain't anything new.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:37 AM (jW9oF)

42 OMG, I just reread that auto repair ban thing and they fined the guy for working on his car IN his garage. I thought they were just cracking down on folks working in driveways or on the street at initial quick scan.

I'd be putting my house on the market if I was the dude from the article. I can't imagine living with rat fink commie stool pigeon neighbors who would tattle to the county that you were working on you car in your own garage.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 11:38 AM (cDw3P)

43 The Beach Boys--specifically Brian Wilson--really did a great job of "selling" California by mythologizing it's already strong points--great weather, wide open spaces-and reducing it all to a teenage fantasyland of hot rods, hamburger stands, surfing and of course, hot babes.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2020 11:39 AM (CqE5x)

44 I'd be putting my house on the market if I was the dude from the article.

Did we mention the new "Putting your house on the market" tax?

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 11:39 AM (vd8XM)

45
The California GOP was a confederacy of bozos back in the early 90s, this ain't anything new.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:37 AM (jW9oF)

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They will put you prison if you come into the state with a plastic, glass bottle, or aluminum can that does not have the CRV tag on it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:40 AM (pw+jk)

46 >...unless you're thinking of bringing in a plastic bag. You aren't, are you?
Posted by: t-bird

I do own several plastic bags
I denounce myself

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:40 AM (iTXRQ)

47 43
The Beach Boys--specifically Brian Wilson--really did a great job of
"selling" California by mythologizing it's already strong points--great
weather, wide open spaces-and reducing it all to a teenage fantasyland
of hot rods, hamburger stands, surfing and of course, hot babes.

Posted by: JoeF.

Wait, you're saying those things aren't true?

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

48

The call to save the world is usually a false front covering the urge to rule.

Apologies in advance to Menken as I wrote that off the top of my head and probably isn't word for word.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 15, 2020 11:41 AM (nw6Hr)

49 7 "After investing billions of dollars in transportation in recent decades, only three percent of all Bay Area trips are made with public transit," says Assemblyman Chiu. But he thinks better integration could fix the problem.

---

I speak politico - I can translate:

More money is needed!
Posted by: Tonypete at February 15, 2020 11:25 AM (Y4EXg)

Close but you JUST missed.
What this calls for is Other People's Money! They need federal dollars, collected from other states to fix a California problem.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 15, 2020 11:41 AM (5Zwgf)

50 North end of Fresno, HUGE bridge for the rail line has been going in for a couple of years now.

We call it the Bridge to nowhere.

Meanwhile, widening 99 Hwy to three lanes through valley is once more slowed due to lack of funds.

Priorities. Bridges to nowhere are more important than fixing one of the deadliest highways in the US.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 15, 2020 11:41 AM (NgKpN)

51 Huh. I always thought it was "Little Douche Coup."

Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 15, 2020 11:41 AM (sWM8x)

52 .They will put you prison if you come into the state with a plastic, glass bottle, or aluminum can that does not have the CRV tag on it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious

the hell you say
seriously- if I buy bottled water in Nevada and still have the bottle with me when I enter CA, it's a crime?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:41 AM (iTXRQ)

53 I thought of moving to SF from Dallas in the mid 70's

and opening an antique shop there

whew, bullet dodged

so 15 yrs later

I moved to MA

Posted by: REDACTED at February 15, 2020 11:42 AM (rpxSz)

54
And you'll have fun fun fun till the county takes your T-bird away.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 15, 2020 11:42 AM (nw6Hr)

55 The Beach Boys--specifically Brian Wilson--really did a great job of
"selling" California by mythologizing it's already strong points--great
weather, wide open spaces-and reducing it all to a teenage fantasyland
of hot rods, hamburger stands, surfing and of course, hot babes.

Posted by: JoeF.

Wait, you're saying those things aren't true?
Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

Of course it's true.
But it was a fantasyland for those of us who missed out.

California in the 60's is one of the first places i'd go to if i was granted the ability to time travel.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2020 11:42 AM (CqE5x)

56 Huh. I always thought it was "Little Douche Coup."
Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 15, 2020 11:41 AM (sWM8x)
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You may be thinking of "Blinded By The Light".

"Racked up like a douche, another boner in the night."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:43 AM (jW9oF)

57 >>>Furthermore, this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic

I don't get that math. A guy works on his own car in his own home garage = zero vehicle traffic. Vs. a guy drives his car away from his home to a professional garage to have people work on it, and then drives his car back home again = two trips in traffic.

?

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:44 AM (ghFVE)

58 California in the 60's is one of the first places i'd go to if i was granted the ability to time travel.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2020 11:42 AM (CqE5x)
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The smog in the LA basin was unbelievably awful, though.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:44 AM (jW9oF)

59 "After investing billions of dollars in transportation in recent decades, only three percent of all Bay Area trips are made with public transit," says Assemblyman Chiu.

Define 'investing' for me, Mr. Chiu.

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (1+J19)

60 I have friends that are actually buying condos and retiring to Southern California. Of course they are liberals and think it is the land of milk and honey. All I can do is shake my head and wish them luck.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (Vf4Y7)

61 When that song was new and I was less than 29 California seemed like a magical place.

Still like the song.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

Meh. Pop music hasn't really changed, ever.

People get nostalgic though. I get that.

To me though, Beach Boys are on a par with '00 boy bands, like the Backside Boys, millennial Jonass Brothers crep.

And 50 years from now, people will be waxing nostalgic about K-pop, and lamenting the fact that Jimin died from an overdose when he was 26.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (hku12)

62 I always liked "Hit Me With Your Pet Shark"
Pat Benatar- great pipes and easy on the eyes

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (iTXRQ)

63 -great
weather, wide open spaces-and reducing it all to a teenage fantasyland
of hot rods, hamburger stands, surfing and of course, hot babes.

Posted by: JoeF.

Wait, you're saying those things aren't true?
Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

Actually? 60's and 70's? It pretty much was.

I used to cruise McHenry in Modesto. Went to a few beach parties in Santa Cruise.

And don't even get me started on the snow skiing scene back then.

The girls of the 60's and 70's were MUCH trimmer than the girls of today.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (NgKpN)

64 I would still move to California if I won the lottery.

This Midwestern weather sucks. And there isn't another state with weather and mountains and ocean like Cali.

But, I would have to be rich enough to ignore the crap.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 15, 2020 11:46 AM (CjFDo)

65 >Furthermore, this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic

I don't get that math. A guy works on his own car in his own home garage = zero vehicle traffic. Vs. a guy drives his car away from his home to a professional garage to have people work on it, and then drives his car back home again = two trips in traffic.

?
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:44 AM (ghFVE)
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You're asking for logical reasoning from a politician.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:46 AM (jW9oF)

66 I still love to visit Cali. Well SoCal in general but SD North County in particular. No way I'd live there, even if I could afford it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 15, 2020 11:46 AM (EK+jJ)

67
When I saw that story about the guy being sued for working on his own car, I wondered if auto mechanics had unionized. The thing is, I don't see how a law like that benefit$ the lawmakers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (13CQC)

68 Is it still legal to vote Republican in Cali ?

Posted by: jsg at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (tdrVi)

69 After investing billions of dollars in transportation in recent decades, only three percent of all Bay Area trips are made with public transit," says Assemblyman Chiu.

Define 'investing' for me, Mr. Chiu.
Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (1+J19)
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Haven't you heard? Taxes are "investments".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (jW9oF)

70 140mph in an antique car? I bet you see the face of Darwin when you hit the "brakes".

Posted by: klaftern at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (RuIsu)

71 62 "Hit Me With Your Pet Shark"
Pat Benatar
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:45 AM (iTXRQ)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (ghFVE)

72 Actually? 60's and 70's? It pretty much was.

I had a very smart, but utterly impractical uncle who lived in San Diego. After college, I once told him I wouldn't mind moving to CA. He laughed, and said "another lotus lander".

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:49 AM (T6t7i)

73 The chemicals involved in major automobile repair can pollute our
neighborhoods and endanger the health and wellbeing of our residents.
Furthermore, this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic...

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This is about the stupidest **** I've ever heard. What do people work on their cars with, plutonium? SMH And how does working on your car increase vehicle traffic? Makes absolutely no sense.

But hey, they voted for this. Now they get to have a state gov't that will only let them do what they permit. Enjoy your jackboot.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 15, 2020 11:49 AM (JoUsr)

74 require all city council/mayor to ride public transportation to a from their jobs. It will get fixed. It will also NEVER happen.

Posted by: politics uber alles at February 15, 2020 11:50 AM (0hOKG)

75 I still love to visit Cali. Well SoCal in general but SD North County in particular. No way I'd live there, even if I could afford it.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 15, 2020 11:46 AM (EK+jJ)

The one time I visited San Diego, I was thoroughly unimpressed. It's overcrowded, and the weather is overrated. The city is laid out in a haphazard manner.

I couldn't wait to leave. Ocean views are pretty though.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)

76
Wait, you're saying those things aren't true?
Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

Of course it's true.
But it was a fantasyland for those of us who missed out.

California in the 60's is one of the first places i'd go to if i was granted the ability to time travel.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2020 11:42 AM (CqE5x)

If I could time travel, I'd go to CA in the early 40's and buy up some real estate. Then travel back to the present, sell the real estate, retire, and live like a king in OK.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 11:51 AM (Fs5vw)

77 I always wanted to live/work in CA. it really is a very beautiful place. I loved SD in the 80's and 90's. My boss was pretty cool and I would go TDY there for weeks at a time. Right now, with the current economy, I can go/live/work anywhere I want to.

I keep reading about how things have changed and speaking with the few friends I have left there, I'm sad to say I no longer feel that way. Maybe I just need to do it anyway. I really don't have much to lose and my limited time on the planet is becoming increasingly clearer.

Peoples perspectives are so polarized these days.

Posted by: pawn at February 15, 2020 11:51 AM (PveK5)

78 The thing is, I don't see how a law like that benefit$ the lawmakers.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (13CQC)

Because they can ?

Posted by: jsg at February 15, 2020 11:51 AM (tdrVi)

79 $430 fine, $700 to complain. heh, seems cromulent.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 15, 2020 11:52 AM (r+sAi)

80 But I wouldn't dare set foot in the state. It seems everything is against the law.
Posted by: DB- just DB
____________

Just leave your ID at home and pretend you're an illegal alien.

Then you're guaranteed not to get prosecuted for any crime you commit there.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 15, 2020 11:52 AM (k4dH2)

81 "After investing billions of dollars in transportation in recent decades, only three percent of all Bay Area trips are made with public transit," says Assemblyman Chiu. But he thinks better integration could fix the problem.

Obviously, more money is required to fix this!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2020 11:53 AM (oVJmc)

82 Any fine which cost less than challenging the fine is a discretionary tax which ultimately is imposed by government employees on everyone but their co workers and friends.

Pitch forks and lamp posts is all these idiots will finally understand

Posted by: Left California 25 years ago at February 15, 2020 11:53 AM (Pgcou)

83 Three words: Candy Apple Red.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Mirthful at February 15, 2020 11:53 AM (DMUuz)

84 Reminds me I need to do tie rod ends on my luxury sedan Oh & they can FOAD

Posted by: DeForest St. James MacEllsworth at February 15, 2020 11:54 AM (OKp8N)

85 I always wanted to live/work in CA. it really is a very beautiful place. I loved SD in the 80's and 90's. My boss was pretty cool and I would go TDY there for weeks at a time. Right now, with the current economy, I can go/live/work anywhere I want to.

I keep reading about how things have changed and speaking with the few friends I have left there, I'm sad to say I no longer feel that way. Maybe I just need to do it anyway. I really don't have much to lose and my limited time on the planet is becoming increasingly clearer.

Peoples perspectives are so polarized these days.
Posted by: pawn at February 15, 2020 11:51 AM (PveK5)

Money isn't everything of course, but the state operates like it's a vice, and your financial holdings are a watermelon in its grip.

I wouldn't want to be there when it bursts. And it will.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 11:54 AM (hku12)

86 I expect that professional garages pay a chunk of change to get dirty oil correctly disposed of, and you can't regulate shade-tree mechanics to do that, so you can't be a shade-tree mechanic?

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:54 AM (ghFVE)

87
The thing is, I don't see how a law like that benefit$ the lawmakers.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (13CQC)

Because they can ?
Posted by: jsg

========

They're not even doing it for money anymore. They're that perverse.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 11:54 AM (13CQC)

88 Illinois doesn't try to fine me for working on my equipment ... but in time, they will come for our assets -- to cover the $150B they gave to their public union "servants" in future pensions (after giving them early retirement after inflating their salaries).

Great socialist system ... public workers have a monopoly, can't be fired, go on strike to use kids as hostages ... they get these deals by paying union dues to the mafia .... I mean, union. The mafia/union then squeezes the politicians ... though at this point, they are pretty much all one happy mob family.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 15, 2020 11:55 AM (Cus5s)

89 It is very sad. It would appear the only relief to be had from these officious wanker busybodies would involve their skeletal remains tinkling as human wind chimes along the roadway as a salutory warning. Sooner the better.

They won't shut up and they won't change the subject.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 15, 2020 11:55 AM (tNuhy)

90 I know! We'll pass a law forcing people to take BART! Why didn't we think of that sooner!

Posted by: SF City Council at February 15, 2020 11:56 AM (H8QX8)

91 Mrs. REDACTED's grand pa owned a deli in Baltimore

she said he was always crabbing about the local government being corrupt

in the 50's

old habits die hard

Posted by: REDACTED at February 15, 2020 11:56 AM (rpxSz)

92 there's got to be a point at which the lovely CA weather and scenery is outweighed by desire to escape the oppressive government controlling all aspects of human endeavor

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:56 AM (iTXRQ)

93
My liberal little bro lives in San Diego. I love to visit an like the city... Tho thete is no effing way I could afford to live there.

Plus.... I could NEVER EVER part with my herd of emotion support firearms.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 15, 2020 11:56 AM (nw6Hr)

94 Here ya go. Nice cover of Delores O'Riordan's "Zombie," which makes a nice theme song to the "coming to take our guns" climate in Virginia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzcPULOGdM&loop=0

O'Riordan got way to drunk one night and drowned in the tub, so you know that besides not driving drunk, you shouldn't bathe, or even shower, drunk.

Play it on a dreadnaught like Eva's playing, only four chords needed, get real percussive, close your eyes, get into the mood with some dope or irish whiskey, and sing. And yodel. Like Delores. Like Eva.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 15, 2020 11:56 AM (+fPHo)

95 >I know! We'll pass a law forcing people to take BART! Why didn't we think of that sooner!
Posted by: SF City Council

and telescreens in every home

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:57 AM (iTXRQ)

96 told you

Posted by: John Galt at February 15, 2020 11:57 AM (7R8A2)

97 So Bloomie wants Hillary! as his crawling, I mean , running mate? Hope he has a food taster

Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2020 11:57 AM (6XlcD)

98 Public transportation in Cali will remain FUBARed, cuz they wont fix the real reasons folks don't want to use it.

"The number one response was that people are just going out less on weekends. Number two was weekend trains don't run often enough, but reasons three, four, and five were lack of cleanliness, worries about crime and concern about the homeless.

#1. Go out an a weekend and risk getting feces thrown at me my some doped up psycho? Yeah, I'd stay home and binge netflix too. And even #2, trains/buses don't run often enough, cant trust the schedule goes back to California telling homeless dopers and yutes who probably have housing that its open season to harass the schmucks who are working for their living, Who would want to work for transit in that toxic environment? Their applicant pool is surely limited.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 11:57 AM (cDw3P)

99 there's got to be a point at which the lovely CA weather and scenery is outweighed by desire to escape the oppressive government controlling all aspects of human endeavor
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 15, 2020 11:56 AM (iTXRQ)
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*raises hand*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 15, 2020 11:57 AM (jW9oF)

100 97 So Bloomie wants Hillary! as his crawling, I mean , running mate? Hope he has a food taster
Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2020 11:57 AM (6XlcD)

Oh, please let it be true.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (ghFVE)

101 I was born and raised in Bakersfield. About 8 years ago I sold out (because the town I grew up in was going downhill due to illegal immigration) and moved to Lake Isabella area, about an hour and a half Northwest of Bakersfield. Just retired and really love it here. Small town feel and beautiful scenery and good fishing. Few places I've been are even close to the weather and scenery of my beloved state. The Dems are ruining the larger cities but there are still a few areas like Lake Isabella that are great to live in.

Posted by: DooDad at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (SnLSx)

102 97
So Bloomie wants Hillary! as his crawling, I mean , running mate? Hope he has a food taster

Never happen. This is just Drudge trying to gin up some readers. Bloomberg is a fascist, but he's not stupid.

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (T6t7i)

103 I lived in Soviet Monica which is beautiful.

But I only miss 3 things.

Gorgeous women, the ocean and great restaurants.

Hello FL and TX

Fuck totalitarian CA. I would never fund their agenda by moving there or visiting.

Posted by: LOL at February 15, 2020 11:59 AM (M20vx)

104 Amazon will still ship t-shirt bags to California, so I can use them as can liners even if I cant use them for groceries. But try to buy a case of LED light bulbs from Amazon and wait for weeks wondering why they're never delivered. It turned out they weren't as efficient as the new LEDs mandated for CA. No affordable light bulbs for you.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at February 15, 2020 11:59 AM (sN9mD)

105 Getting From Here to There - a mad cartoon-collage study of 'transportation, the history and theory of,' back in 2013, in my "Daily Doodles" series. Don't know if anyone else would want to plow through it, but I had fun doing it at least. I think I did. It was awhile back. Always meant to re-work it to more readable format, but, well, #TwoWeeks, y'know? Page 1 here (or click nic):
mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/transportation-basics

Anyway, this is what I thought of, reading about the Calif. taxpayers getting railroaded:

#2 -Misguided Projections - Almost everything anybody ever imagines about the future of transportation, especially automated and "mass" transportation, is not just wrong, but usually horribly, horribly misguided.

Still true.

This was a fun one:
#12 - The 500 Cars of That Guy From That Book About the Weird Food
mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/the-500-cars-of-that-guy

Posted by: mindful webworker
until we get teleportation
at February 15, 2020 11:59 AM (7OF+y)

106 I don't get that math. A guy works on his own car in his own home garage = zero vehicle traffic. Vs. a guy drives his car away from his home to a professional garage to have people work on it, and then drives his car back home again = two trips in traffic.

?
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:44 AM (ghFVE)

Pretty simple. County is in the pocket of the auto repair industry. Same thing happens with boat/RV storage: owners of storage facilities get on council, or bribe councillors to make it illegal to store your RV on your own lot.

Follow the money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 15, 2020 12:01 PM (LxWV7)

107 Few places I've been are even close to the weather and scenery of my beloved state. The Dems are ruining the larger cities but there are still a few areas like Lake Isabella that are great to live in.
Posted by: DooDad at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (SnLSx)

Good for you. I didn't know about Isabella. But you're right -- hard to overestimate the appeal of the weather in SoCal.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 15, 2020 12:01 PM (H8QX8)

108 103 I lived in Soviet Monica which is beautiful.
Posted by: LOL at February 15, 2020 11:59 AM (M20vx)

LOL, indeed.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:02 PM (ghFVE)

109 California used to be a fun place.

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:03 PM (87gB3)

110
I always wanted to live/work in CA. it really is a very beautiful place.

Posted by: pawn

=======

You can make it work if you can stay out of the State's way.

1 - don't build a house
2 - don't attempt to develop land
3 - don't buy any land that has a resource on it, like a creek; the state will claim an entitlement to that resource and charge you a fee for overseeing it
4 - don't hire anyone on the books
5 - other things I'm not thinking of

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:03 PM (13CQC)

111 All aboard! Choo, choo!

Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at February 15, 2020 12:04 PM (EgshT)

112 Just wanted to mention that, as with every day but especially on days where he puts himself 'out there,' protection prayers for our president are in order.
Posted by: teej at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM (g1guD)

I do so, every day.

Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2020 12:05 PM (DJFLF)

113 106 I don't get that math. A guy works on his own car in his own home garage = zero vehicle traffic. Vs. a guy drives his car away from his home to a professional garage to have people work on it, and then drives his car back home again = two trips in traffic.

?
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 11:44 AM (ghFVE)

Pretty simple. County is in the pocket of the auto repair industry. Same thing happens with boat/RV storage: owners of storage facilities get on council, or bribe councillors to make it illegal to store your RV on your own lot.

Follow the money.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 15, 2020 12:01 PM (LxWV7)

I follow you on all of that.
But the claim was that " this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic." I don't see how it does that.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:05 PM (ghFVE)

114 The chemicals involved in major automobile repair can pollute our neighborhoods and endanger the health and wellbeing of our residents.
Furthermore, this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic...

That last line gives it away. It's about eliminating car ownership, period.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at February 15, 2020 12:05 PM (Nu6Gg)

115 101 I was born and raised in Bakersfield. About 8 years ago I sold out (because the town I grew up in was going downhill due to illegal immigration) and moved to Lake Isabella area, about an hour and a half Northwest of Bakersfield. Just retired and really love it here. Small town feel and beautiful scenery and good fishing. Few places I've been are even close to the weather and scenery of my beloved state. The Dems are ruining the larger cities but there are still a few areas like Lake Isabella that are great to live in.
Posted by: DooDad at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (SnLSx)

Wouldn't want to spend the rest of my days waiting for the eye of Mordor to fix on my community. And it will eventually. Keep checking over your shoulder.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Fs5vw)

116 Yep, I called it.

"Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

The "Fix", as they say, is in.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Hn8E7)

117 Is Ford v Ferrari worth watching?

Posted by: jsg at February 15, 2020 12:07 PM (tdrVi)

118 114: I thought the same. By any means necessary to completely control the Borg.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 15, 2020 12:07 PM (jjyGW)

119 -83- "Three words: Candy Apple Red."

It's rare when the first of something has never been improved on but the original hot rod is still the best ever made.
https://tinyurl.com/sbuozs3

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 12:07 PM (4thlk)

120 Wouldn't want to spend the rest of my days waiting for the eye of Mordor to fix on my community. And it will eventually. Keep checking over your shoulder.
Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Fs5vw)

I agree, but where WON'T it fix eventually.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 15, 2020 12:08 PM (H8QX8)

121 117 Is Ford v Ferrari worth watching?
Posted by: jsg at February 15, 2020 12:07 PM (tdrVi)

Ace said "yes."

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/385843.php

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (ghFVE)

122 We took a family trip to SoCal in the early 70s to see relatives and the usual tourist attractions. I had just turned 13 and what an amazing trip. There were freeways, beaches, moth ball fleet, warm weather, girls, girls, girls, and peacocks!I

These things were not available in cold, snowy, South Central Montana. I dreamed of moving there someday.

Timed passed and I returned as a surveyor in the mid 80s. Bloom was off but it still looked like a place to maybe spend a few years.

More time passed and in the late 80's my IT job was being transferred to North Hollywood. Took a " house hunting trip" before accepting the transfer.

Holy shit! This place was a dump. Monthly car insurance payments were more than my apartment rent back in Portland. "Central heating" was a single wall heater in the living room. That was just a couple of the eye opening stuff I learned in the first few hours. Spent the rest of the time seeing the sites and drinking.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (98S4t)

123 I follow you on all of that.
But the claim was that " this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic." I don't see how it does that.
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:05 PM (ghFVE)

They have to offer up bullshit reasons to hide the fact that they are corrupt, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (LxWV7)

124 you wanna know what's worse than the Eye of Mordor? The Great Unwinking Red Eye of Ra!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (V2Yro)

125 Posted by: DooDad at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (SnLSx)

Wouldn't want to spend the rest of my days waiting for the eye of Mordor to fix on my community. And it will eventually. Keep checking over your shoulder.
Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Fs5vw)

I moved out here, last year.

Colorado.

We are far far from Denver, but yes, we know the eye of Sauron is ever searching.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (hku12)

126
OT: Here's your least expected movie news of the year:

They're making a movie of ELP's "Karn Evil 9".

https://deadline.com/2020/02/radar-pictures-develop-

emerson-lake-palmer-song-karn-evil-9-film-

1202859799/

(remove extra spaces)

All you Emerson, Lake, and Palmer fans can now start REEEEEEEEing with outrage

or SQUEEEEEEEing with delight.

This movie's gonna be a straight up dumpster fire or totally awesome.

There will be no in between.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (z0XD8)

127
"Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

Yeah, make Hillary second in line for the Presidency. Make sure your life insurance is paid up.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 15, 2020 12:10 PM (QzF6i)

128
It is very sad. It would appear the only relief to be had from these
officious wanker busybodies would involve their skeletal remains
tinkling as human wind chimes along the roadway as a salutory warning.
Sooner the better.

They won't shut up and they won't change the subject.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 15, 2020 11:55 AM (tNuhy)

I've always called it lamp post wind chimes. Although I have moved on to iron cages and lining up the impaled as terracotta soldiers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 15, 2020 12:10 PM (9Om/r)

129 One other thing about people insisting on staying in CA. Most have never lived anywhere else. They have no idea what living in relative freedom is like. Government oppression has become normal to them.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 12:10 PM (Fs5vw)

130 Well at least the reactionary left-fascist thugs and tyrants are out in the open, now.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 15, 2020 12:11 PM (T09ml)

131 Is Ford v Ferrari worth watching?
Posted by: jsg at February 15, 2020 12:07 PM (tdrVi)

Ace said "yes."

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/385843.php
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (ghFVE)

But, he liked "Escape Room" better.

I saw it last week and I have to agree that it's a lot of fun.

And much better than you'd expect.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 15, 2020 12:11 PM (z0XD8)

132 Is Ford v Ferrari worth watching?
Posted by: jsg at February 15, 2020 12:07 PM (tdrVi)

Ford wins. It's a boring fight. No knockdowns. Corrupt judges gave rounds to Ford that most observers thought Ferrari won.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 12:12 PM (hku12)

133 "Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".�

The "Fix", as they say, is in.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Hn8E7)

Ain't gonna happen. She can't get out of a chair without assistance.

He's just trying to win over her base.

But if there was ever a ticket that would make Bernie bros explode....

Posted by: Ha at February 15, 2020 12:12 PM (M20vx)

134 ER that is.

NBOt FvF, cuz I have yet to see that one.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 15, 2020 12:12 PM (z0XD8)

135
"Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

Michael Bloomberg Didn't Kill Himself

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2020 12:12 PM (oVJmc)

136 More like setting up a funnel to route tax payers dollars to the bank accounts of elected officials.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 15, 2020 11:30 AM

++++

nudge, nudge, wink, wink

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 15, 2020 12:13 PM (T09ml)

137
If it's true that Keith Richards gave up smoking, I'm thinking that's no bueno. My uncle quit smoking after 60 years and he's a COPD mess now. I don't give him much time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:13 PM (13CQC)

138 116 Yep, I called it.

"Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

The "Fix", as they say, is in.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Hn8E7)

wont be the last flag ran up the pole

Posted by: REDACTED at February 15, 2020 12:13 PM (rpxSz)

139 Bern, Milwaukee, Bern.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 15, 2020 12:14 PM (jjyGW)

140 All you Emerson, Lake, and Palmer fans can now start REEEEEEEEing with outrage
or SQUEEEEEEEing with delight.
This movie's gonna be a straight up dumpster fire or totally awesome.

There will be no in between.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 15, 2020 12:09 PM (z0XD

You know what scene I want them to make, more than any other????

"Performing on a Stool, we've a sight to make you drool!
Several Virgins and a Mule! Keep it cool, keep it cool!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:14 PM (V2Yro)

141
High-speed rail: yesterday's technology at tomorrow's costs. Wait until high-speed Zeppelin service starts!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 15, 2020 12:16 PM (7rVsF)

142 Yep, I called it.

"Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

The "Fix", as they say, is in.
Posted by: Sharkman

Okay.

I'll start the meme.....

"Bloomie didn't kill himself"

Posted by: JT at February 15, 2020 12:16 PM (arJlL)

143
Is Ford v Ferrari worth watching?
Posted by: jsg

======

I saw it. Thumbs sideways.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:16 PM (13CQC)

144 From the future NYT:

SHOCKER!!!

President Bloomberg Commits Suicide Half and Hour After His Inauguration!

A tearful VP Hillary Clinton explains that "The President was very depressed over the number of Big Gulp cups that he saw in the crowd....

Posted by: naturalfake at February 15, 2020 12:17 PM (z0XD8)

145 "Number two was weekend trains don't run often enough, but reasons three, four, and five were lack of cleanliness, worries about crime and concern about the homeless."

But diversity is our strength.

That's like the Steinles taking a walk on the shiny new pier.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 15, 2020 12:17 PM (Ndje9)

146 Welcome back my friends to the show the never ends...

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 15, 2020 12:17 PM (jjyGW)

147 The match we need in October to really make the election lit

RBG dies

decide this fucker

once and for all

Posted by: REDACTED at February 15, 2020 12:17 PM (rpxSz)

148 If I could time travel, I'd go to CA in the early 40's and buy up some real estate. Then travel back to the present, sell the real estate, retire, and live like a king in OK.
Posted by: Sooner

I'm in.

What could go wrong with a plan like that? (see nic)

Posted by: mindful webworker
Okie by birth and choice
at February 15, 2020 12:18 PM (7OF+y)

149 The thing is, I don't see how a law like that benefit$ the lawmakers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 11:48 AM (13CQC)
=====

Homeowners Associations. As far as I can tell, every new house/construction development is subject to one. If you are not compliant, you are fined forever by a quasi-governmental group so you leave and the real governmental groups never have to deal with those stiffnecks who put their own head up there to be razored off. Can't get a permit for development without a HA. Big money there protected by layers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 15, 2020 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

150 Not a word from Trump about McCabe....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 15, 2020 12:20 PM (6XlcD)

151 My guess

The DNC will watch and see how Bernie's doing thru Super Tuesday

If he looks strong

he DNC will start pulling some purty raw shit

Posted by: REDACTED at February 15, 2020 12:20 PM (rpxSz)

152 Wikipedia has a list of nicknames Trump has assigned to people; very useful!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y66vmfer

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:21 PM (ghFVE)

153 Michael Bloomberg.

AKA "The Fun Size Fascist"

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 15, 2020 12:21 PM (T09ml)

154 "Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

Yeah, make Hillary second in line for the Presidency. Make sure your life insurance is paid up.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 15, 2020 12:10 PM (QzF6i)

Death Wish starring Mini Mike Bloomberg

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 15, 2020 12:21 PM (GOcZA)

155 We are all 'Death Valley' now.

Posted by: San Franciscans at February 15, 2020 12:22 PM (Vy7tf)

156 Public transpo in San Fran is dying? I can't imagine why....
Just google "Bart station junkies."

Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2020 12:23 PM (qlTN9)

157 Just checked Zillow for Lake Isabella properties. I can hardly believe those prices could be in California!

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:23 PM (87gB3)

158 mini b and maxi FAB....well there is a certain symmetry to that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2020 12:23 PM (nRk/c)

159
Ha!

I'm freakin' Goliath compared to that Bloomberg Guy.

Buzz off, short stuff!

*struts around*

Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 15, 2020 12:24 PM (z0XD8)

160 156 Public transpo in San Fran is dying? I can't imagine why....
Just google "Bart station junkies."
Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2020 12:23 PM (qlTN9)

I've seen a couple of videos of passengers trying to get through the station tunnels to the tracks and it looks really frightening.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:25 PM (ghFVE)

161
I'm thinking some synergy, inclusion, dynamics, and you got yourself a winner!
Posted by: Bruce
-------

Is there anything that diversity can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 15, 2020 12:25 PM (xSo9G)

162 Public transpo in San Fran is dying? I can't imagine why...

Woohoo! I'm traveling from nowhere to nowhere on San Jose Light Rail at 10 mph with a bunch of homeless and illegals!

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 12:26 PM (EYsyU)

163 We are all 'Death Valley' now.
Posted by: San Franciscans
----------

Next up, 'We're all the Donner Party now.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 15, 2020 12:26 PM (CDGwz)

164 KT, good job on this thread!

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:29 PM (ghFVE)

165 154 "Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

Yeah, make Hillary second in line for the Presidency. Make sure your life insurance is paid up.

Can a president just make the decision to suddenly retire? Semi-serious question.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 15, 2020 12:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

166 Commies love trains.

Reminds me of the scene in Dr. Zhivago.

Just remember to remove the night soil and use the disinfectant, peasants.

Long live the Revolution!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 15, 2020 12:30 PM (Z+IKu)

167 Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

Yeah, make Hillary second in line for the Presidency. Make sure your life insurance is paid up.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Bloomberg will announce the day before the election that he will resign in favor of Hillary on the day after the election.

Chaos!!!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2020 12:31 PM (Hn8E7)

168 Cali Dems are beyond horrible, and the Republicans running for office in
most cases are pretty pathetic. It's a miserable relationship.

Posted by: IC at February 15, 2020 11:

Yes, rumor has it they are electrified Madam Tussaud figures.
//
And the bill against doing vehicle repairs IMO is just another way to harass people who would vote against them. The Curley Effect. And some greenie probably turned him in secretly to the commissars.

Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2020 12:31 PM (qlTN9)

169
Public transpo in San Fran is dying? I can't imagine why....
Just google "Bart station junkies."
Posted by: PJ

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Hm. Gas prices are through the roof and you can't afford to park in the City. I don't know of a single company that has a shuttle into the City, just around Silly Valley. How are people getting around?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:32 PM (13CQC)

170 but reasons three, four, and five were lack of cleanliness, worries about crime and concern about the homeless."

But diversity is our strength.

Hey, I'm showing my concern for the homeless by avoiding public transit! Where's my medal?

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2020 12:32 PM (xSo9G)

171 Task Force = Politburo

It was nice little experiment. We had a good run for a couple hundred years.

Posted by: Nadler's Sexy Gunt at February 15, 2020 12:33 PM (eD3Jy)

172 "High-speed rail: yesterday's technology at tomorrow's costs. Wait until high-speed Zeppelin service starts! "

We'll be there!!

Posted by: Hindenberg, Ludendorf, and von Molthke at February 15, 2020 12:33 PM (/LQkF)

173 160 156 Public transpo in San Fran is dying? I can't imagine why....
Just google "Bart station junkies."
Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2020 12:23 PM (qlTN9)

I've seen a couple of videos of passengers trying to get through the station tunnels to the tracks and it looks really frightening.
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:25 PM (ghFVE)

Maybe if we serve Really Good Coffee?

-that guy in Singles who was WAY outta his league w a nubile Kyra Sedgwick

Posted by: Heirloominati at February 15, 2020 12:34 PM (GC07d)

174
They need to "Move the conversation forward."

But not the train.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 12:34 PM (aKsyK)

175 I had a pretty good assignment, a few months, while in the Corps. I was flying around, escorting avionics components from one place to another. The MARLOG ron'd in El Toro for the weekend, and I ran into a friend. He and his wife had a little bungalow in Laguna Beach, the back, on supports, facing the PCH and the drink. Spent the weekend. Friend and wife were on the waiting list for base housing, and concerned that the landlord was trying to sell the little shack.I said "You're getting out, and you have a job on base lined up, so buy it". Their words "This asshole want's $20K".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 15, 2020 12:35 PM (C1Lsn)

176 Hey, a worthless government drone has to look busy and stealing the hard earned money of citizens is one way.

Oh, and California, quit sending us your drug addled, your gangs, your homeless freeloaders, all yearing to be spending our money in idleness.

Posted by: WashingHordian at February 15, 2020 12:36 PM (e1mEI)

177 But diversity is our strength.

Yes.

Posted by: NASA at February 15, 2020 12:37 PM (EgshT)

178 Que the laugh track. 'sustainable transportation'.

Every man-made object is 'sustainable', asshats, if you continue to sink money into it.

You want the acme of sustainable? Return to steam locomotives. Fuel them with trees which grow on farms. Or oil, from whales. Whale ranches for the win!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:37 PM (Vy7tf)

179 Why does all the SanFran Shit have to get to L.A. so fast?

because it's goes faster than the smell dummies.

Posted by: saf at February 15, 2020 12:38 PM (5IHGB)

180 Will this route have a bike lane?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:38 PM (Vy7tf)

181 Ugh. My washer decided to go for a walk. I have two beach towels (along with regular towels) in there. For some reason, they decided to team up and won't stay on opposite sides of the drum.

Fortunately, I can move the washer back myself as long as it is spinning. What I can't budge is the plywood platform I have it on due to a gooshie floor. So that's all hibbity-jibbity.

Tune in next week for the next installment of this exciting drama!

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:38 PM (87gB3)

182
They need to "Move the conversation forward."

But not the train.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

========

lol, perfect. Could use that for so many progressive projects.

They need to "heal our healthcare situation." But not the patients.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:38 PM (13CQC)

183 167 Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as VP".

Yeah, make Hillary second in line for the Presidency. Make sure your life insurance is paid up.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Do consider that just a day ago, the same "sources" were saying Mitt Romney was going to be Bloomie's running mate.

It's almost like people just put out stories to get people to look at their webpages or something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)

184 Yeah, the Phoenix light rail is a cluster fuck, so they've decided to expand it.

Hello you guys.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 15, 2020 12:39 PM (Orx/W)

185 The Beach Boys--specifically Brian Wilson--really did a great job of "selling" California by mythologizing it's already strong points--great weather, wide open spaces-and reducing it all to a teenage fantasyland of hot rods, hamburger stands, surfing and of course, hot babes.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2020 11:39 AM (CqE5x)

Yup....I always wondered why Brian Wilson was a fat chubby bastard when most surfers are pretty buff.

Then I found out he never liked to surf.

Weird.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 15, 2020 12:40 PM (Z+IKu)

186 Bloomberg / Killery 2020

Although earlier someone noted that Bloomberg is not that stupid, I just wanted to note that Mr. Peebles at #35 at February 15, 2020 12:12 PM was first out of the gate with

Michael Bloomberg Didn't Kill Himself

JT at February 15, 2020 12:16 PM #142: Okay.
I'll start the meme.....
"Bloomie didn't kill himself"

Close, but no seegahr.

Posted by: mindful webworker
Russian judges have ruled
at February 15, 2020 12:40 PM (7OF+y)

187 @174.Ha!

Living in Cali seems like living in a state run HOA.
No thanks.

Posted by: Case at February 15, 2020 12:41 PM (fv9cQ)

188 Bloomberg is scarcely better than Hillary when he speaks in public. I can see that ticket appealing to the DNC billionaires, Zucker, Z'berg, Bezos, Soros, et al. who are probably spooked that crazy Bernie would actually try to nationalize their companies. I can never judge what the masses will do; but I don't think the DNC oligarchs can control their monster anymore. I just pray that enough traditional democrat voters realize Trump is their only sane choice and/or the Dems are split between the we want to Bern it down now faction vs the faction that thinks they can just raise taxes on the 'rich' by X amount.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 12:41 PM (cDw3P)

189
The Californians who ruined their own transit systems with these budget-breaking boondoggles are flooding the interior West, and spreading their idiocy around like latter-day Johnny Stupidseeds.

Visit EJEXIT.com to find out what YOU can do to stem the tide, before it's too late.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 15, 2020 12:41 PM (pftYY)

190 185 Charley doesn't surf. Somebody was going to say it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 15, 2020 12:42 PM (C1Lsn)

191 Wreckers, clearly bourgeoisie are sabotaging the genius plans of the vanguard of the proliteriate.

Posted by: Jean at February 15, 2020 12:42 PM (B7KlG)

192 Thinking more about the "Karn Evil #9" movie effort, I think next I wanna see the same producers announce that they are putting out a film based on a combination of ZZ Topp's "Tube Snake Boogie" and "Pearl Necklace".

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:42 PM (trdmm)

193
Is there anything that diversity can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 15, 2020 12:25 PM (xSo9G)

Nope. When you've got murder, rape, spreading disease and dropping turds in the street covered your at peak diversity.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 15, 2020 12:43 PM (Orx/W)

194 24
12 Today's Dad joke:

Why do melons always have weddings?

Because they cantaloupe.

Posted by: Dogstar

----

That's terrible!!

*consider it stolen*

Posted by: Tonypete at February 15, 2020 11:32 AM (Y4EXg)

Don't forget the Muppets song -

I know you can't elope, but Honey, do!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 15, 2020 12:44 PM (YqED9)

195 Number two was weekend trains don't run often enough, but reasons three, four, and five were lack of cleanliness, worries about crime and concern about the homeless.

Same in Portland - public transit ridership has been flat for years, despite the construction of new light rail lines.

And the reasons are the same as San Francisco's - public transit is viewed as unsafe and unpleasant, since the light rail is now used as a rolling homeless shelter.

Blue cities have given up on the ability to enforce the most basic social norms on mass transit - people get on the light rail blasting s***ty music, and no one dares do anything (you can get knifed if you complain), people get on smelling so badly that they make half a light rail car unusable, random harassment of passengers constantly takes place, and no one dares do anything, etc.

And yeah, it's worse nights and weekends - rush hour is usually people going to jobs and school, although even then there are issues.

But, of course, the blue city politicians decree that cars are bad, and do everything possible to force people to take mass transit (while they personally have reserved parking spaces at City Hall, of course).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 15, 2020 12:44 PM (I2/tG)

196 192 Thinking more about the "Karn Evil #9" movie effort, I think next I wanna see the same producers announce that they are putting out a film based on a combination of ZZ Topp's "Tube Snake Boogie" and "Pearl Necklace".
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:42 PM (trdmm

Adventure flick: "Sleeping Bag". Transgender flick "Zipper Job".

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:45 PM (Vy7tf)

197 Sigh trivial fix to 186 Mr. Peebles at #135

Posted by: mindful webworker
trivial, persoots
at February 15, 2020 12:45 PM (7OF+y)

198 KT, good job on this thread!
Posted by: m at

Seconded !

As always !

Posted by: JT at February 15, 2020 12:45 PM (arJlL)

199 When England completed and opened its first rail line a politician, who had no idea about how to judge the speed of a train, as compared to buggies, stepped onto the tracks and was run over.
Perhaps Governor Newsome will make the same misjudgment with the high speed train.
Not that I wish it on him.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 15, 2020 12:45 PM (Uu+Jp)

200 181 Ugh. My washer decided to go for a walk. I have two beach towels (along with regular towels) in there. For some reason, they decided to team up and won't stay on opposite sides of the drum.

Fortunately, I can move the washer back myself as long as it is spinning. What I can't budge is the plywood platform I have it on due to a gooshie floor. So that's all hibbity-jibbity.

Tune in next week for the next installment of this exciting drama!
Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:38 PM (87gB3)

Will do! I've been there; we've probably all been there.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:46 PM (ghFVE)

201 Okay, I have to stick up for BART here.
1. I don't drive.
2. I'm disabled and ride a full-size scooter. it won't fit in anything smaller than a van, which I don't own.
3. Riding buses with a scooter requires ramps, and the ramps have frequently failed.

BART is roll-on-roll-off, and 97% of my destinations are within scooter range of a BART station. if I didn't have BART, I'd be very close to homebound.

Posted by: grayishpanther at February 15, 2020 12:46 PM (sqZQl)

202 Bloomberg is scarcely better than Hillary when he speaks in public. I can see that ticket appealing to the DNC billionaires, Zucker, Z'berg, Bezos, Soros, et al. who are probably spooked that crazy Bernie would actually try to nationalize their companies. I can never judge what the masses will do; but I don't think the DNC oligarchs can control their monster anymore."

3 months ago, Bloomie didn't even rate 2% in any poll of Dem voters. A bunch of madison avenue ads haven't changed that, it's just the Clown Car Demo Derby that's their primary race is knocking everyone else out, and Bloomie has the money to stay in.

If he wins, it's going to be a test of how many zombie Dem voters will pull the lever for whoever they're paid to pull it for - maybe as much as 40% of the electorate, but not too much more. And the institutionalized fraud will probably push that up another 5 points.

but a whole lot of the dem party is gonna stay home on election day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:46 PM (trdmm)

203 Because everyone loves a third-world shithole by the sea!

Posted by: San Fran Nan at February 15, 2020 12:47 PM (EgshT)

204 I know you can't elope, but Honey, do!
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 15, 2020 12:44 PM (YqED9

Someone needs to squash this before things get out of control.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:47 PM (Vy7tf)

205 Yes, thanks for hte thread. Otherwise I would be forced to go to the gym.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 15, 2020 12:48 PM (QzF6i)

206 I do not usually talk about my personal life but here goes.

My business partner and I got in with some bad guys and well anyways it looks like I have an interview with the FBI next week.

My wife is an amazing woman and after I told her that I was fearful of being caught in a lie she offered the best advice.

I switched to the Democrat party yesterday.

No perjury for me.

Posted by: Clear skies ahead at February 15, 2020 12:48 PM (Pgcou)

207
Posted by: Clear skies ahead at February 15, 2020 12:48 PM (Pgcou)

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Lawyer up. Shut your trap. Name, address, SSN and nothing more. Say nothing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 12:49 PM (uKj5K)

208 Make some good melon puns, if you musk.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 15, 2020 12:49 PM (jjyGW)

209
Okay, I have to stick up for BART here.

Posted by: grayishpanther

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That's why I'm asking what the heck else people are doing? Between parking and gas, I don't see how people can afford to drive in SF.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:49 PM (13CQC)

210 Someone needs to squash this before things get out of control.

We're on it!

Posted by: Sacramento County Code Enforcement at February 15, 2020 12:50 PM (YqED9)

211 Lawyer up. Shut your trap. Name, address, SSN and nothing more. Say nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

If you can find it, use that SSN from the address in GA that got all the money from a few thousand IRS returns

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 12:50 PM (vd8XM)

212 Will do! I've been there; we've probably all been there.
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:46 PM (ghFVE

Could be interesting if I find some eye candy to help position the washer.

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:50 PM (87gB3)

213 I switched to the Democrat party yesterday.

No perjury for me.
Posted by: Clear skies ahead at February 15, 2020 12:48 PM (Pgcou)

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

On March 3rd, I'm gonna switch to the Dem Party for one day so I can vote for Burnie in the Texas Dem Primary. Don't want to see Bloomie walk away with all the chips.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 12:51 PM (trdmm)

214
BART is roll-on-roll-off, and 97% of my destinations are within
scooter range of a BART station. if I didn't have BART, I'd be very
close to homebound.
=====

My small reminders of the necessity for busses with lifts for elderly/disabled is still working locally. Very expensive for the rider, but that is what suburbia has to offer. Probably not for much longer as they, to use Oprah's lovely descriptor, 'die off'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 15, 2020 12:51 PM (MIKMs)

215
Lawyer up. Shut your trap. Name, address, SSN and nothing more. Say nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

======

Bring an audio recorder. If not a video recorder.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:51 PM (13CQC)

216 BART is roll-on-roll-off, and 97% of my destinations are within scooter range of a BART station. if I didn't have BART, I'd be very close to homebound.
Posted by: grayishpanther at February 15, 2020 12:46 PM (sqZQl)

It would be more efficient to assign you a personal driver, no?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:51 PM (Vy7tf)

217 Clear Skies, best wishes for a favorable outcome with a minimum of hassle.

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:52 PM (87gB3)

218 209: But if you make 'live in SF' money you probably prefer to Uber or Lyft vs risk ruining your clothes taking public transport. BART was always touted as a model for public transport, its a shame that they seem to be trying to ruin it by allowing anarchy in the stations.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 12:52 PM (cDw3P)

219 It would be more efficient to assign you a personal driver, no?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid

Kramer/Newman Rickshaw at your service!

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 12:53 PM (vd8XM)

220 The number one response was that people are just going out less on weekends.

Number two was weekend trains don't run often enough, but reasons three, four, and five were lack of cleanliness, worries about crime and concern about the homeless.

The truth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 12:53 PM (Fao6g)

221 But, of course, the blue city politicians decree that cars are bad, and do everything possible to force people to take mass transit (while they personally have reserved parking spaces at City Hall, of course).
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 15, 2020 12:44 PM (I2/tG)

I'm enjoying the clusterf*** of the I-5/I-84/I-405 freeway project in Portland. Every grievance group in the city is involved. If that isn't enough entertainment, the I-5 Interstate bridge project is getting restarted.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 15, 2020 12:53 PM (98S4t)

222 If you're interested, here's an excellent Twitter thread on why McCabe was not charged:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vgm6bm2

Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 12:54 PM (sGotD)

223 218 209: But if you make 'live in SF' money you probably prefer to Uber or Lyft vs risk ruining your clothes taking public transport. BART was always touted as a model for public transport, its a shame that they seem to be trying to ruin it by allowing anarchy in the stations.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 12:52 PM (cDw3P)

The Chicago 'Red Line' is how all the yutes come into downtown to mob-rob on the Miracle Mile. So you can say Metro is the Wheel Man for these robberies.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:54 PM (Vy7tf)

224 It would be more efficient to assign you a personal driver, no?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 15, 2020 12:51 PM (Vy7tf)

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One admirable thing about the Denver system (RTD), is that it was first in the nation to mandate that public transit be universally handi-accessible. A noble thing. And it was achieved efficiently and universally. In the 1970s.

Long before our many, many multi-billion dollar graft-fuelled transit expansions during my lifetime.

Helping the disabled to get around doesn't have to be giant financial disaster.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 12:54 PM (uKj5K)

225 220 And not having a gun or other means to defend themselves.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (C1Lsn)

226 Lawyer up. Shut your trap. Name, address, SSN and nothing more. Say nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

======

Bring an audio recorder. If not a video recorder.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Hire a court-certified videographer and a court reporter.

And the only thing you say to them in response to every question is: "FYNQ".

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (Hn8E7)

227 If I was in California and a Republican. I would create a statewide political party that aligned with the Republicans on a national level for those offices. The common primary gives this strategy a chance.

Posted by: whig at February 15, 2020 11:36 AM (EUDB2)

Unfortunately, the awful primary system does the opposite. Siphoning votes from the GOP increases the likelyhood of Dems securing the top two in the primary and leaving no competition on the ballot. And that frees up a lot of Dem donors to funnel money into the more competitive races, which is why even political neophytes running House races had $20m war chests in 2018.

Posted by: Sjg at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (gDSJf)

228 "State Assemblyman David Chiu (D-San Francisco) calls Bay Area public transportation 'inefficient' and 'unreliable.'"

Just wait until you see the 'public hospitals'. But maybe Assemblyman Chiu is counting on his connections to keep himself and his loved ones out of those.

Posted by: Paul at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (PMxE5)

229 I have heard, I think at WUWT, that Phoenix has the only public transportation in America that is more energy efficient than everyone driving themselves.

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (87gB3)

230 Lake Isabella area, about an hour and a half Northwest of Bakersfield.

Posted by: DooDad at February 15, 2020 11:58 AM (SnLSx)

Wouldn't want to spend the rest of my days waiting for the eye of Mordor to fix on my community. And it will eventually. Keep checking over your shoulder.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Fs5vw)

Better check a map, first.

Posted by: BignJames at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (X/Pw5)

231 Could be interesting if I find some eye candy to help position the washer.

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:50 PM (87gB3)

Emmie, you ornament the world for me.

Posted by: Laura Nyro at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (YqED9)

232 But if you make 'live in SF' money you probably prefer to Uber or Lyft vs risk ruining your clothes taking public transport.

This is why Uber and Lyft is eating public transit's lunch in a number of blue cities - being able to avoid mass transit is increasingly valued.

The politicians hate Uber and Lyft, too. (San Francisco just closed a lot of Market Street to private cars - taxis are allowed, but not Uber and Lyft.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

233 And the reasons are the same as San Francisco's - public transit is viewed as unsafe and unpleasant, since the light rail is now used as a rolling homeless shelter.

What you have now are:

(a) Lyft/Uber/etc. which are a viable alternative for a lot of people, more expensive in most cases if you're traveling alone but if you're going out with one or two others it's pretty much flat with public transit.

(b) Google Maps, which will illustrate for you just how much time you lose when you take public transit.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (8erNz)

234 The Chicago 'Red Line' is how all the yutes come into downtown to mob-rob on the Miracle Mile. So you can say Metro is the Wheel Man for these robberies.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid

Plus, you can rob people at the stations!

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (vd8XM)

235 Emmie, you ornament the world for me.
Posted by: Laura Nyro at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (YqED9)

You're sweet!

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:57 PM (87gB3)

236 222: Well at least McCabe had to get a lawyer and face the 'nightmare' of possible charges. rough FNM quote there. Nothing like what poor General Flynn endured, but at least a bit of 'process is the punishment' for slimey Andrew. And hopefully old Andy fears Durham could come up with something and is still paying some high $ shyster.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 12:57 PM (cDw3P)

237 215
Lawyer up. Shut your trap. Name, address, SSN and nothing more. Say nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

======

Bring an audio recorder. If not a video recorder.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2020 12:51 PM (13CQC)

Recommend GOOD deposition training.
Which involves YD's and BM's sage advice.

Posted by: Heirloominati at February 15, 2020 01:00 PM (GC07d)

238 Nice to see you, PaleRider. Hope you, your family, and your horses are all well.

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 01:00 PM (87gB3)

239 Here in OK we have numerous private companies the give rides for the elderly and handicapped for a nominal price. Much more efficient than mass transit. And they come to your residence.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Fs5vw)

240 181 Ugh. My washer decided to go for a walk. I have two beach towels (along with regular towels) in there. For some reason, they decided to team up and won't stay on opposite sides of the drum.

Fortunately, I can move the washer back myself as long as it is spinning. What I can't budge is the plywood platform I have it on due to a gooshie floor. So that's all hibbity-jibbity.

Tune in next week for the next installment of this exciting drama!
Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:38 PM (87gB3)

"As the Washer Turns ..."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Fao6g)

241
Andy McCabe "raised" (was laundered) a shitload of money through GFM to pay for the formality of a legal defense during proceedings he knew would end without charges.

All after his wife was raking in cash from the Clinton machine through Terry McAulliffe.

Not too much of a nightmare.

He's just fine.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 01:00 PM (uKj5K)

242 Fascists can make the trains run on time. Apparently, commies can't.

Posted by: Archer at February 15, 2020 01:01 PM (w6f/8)

243 I say again: "homeless" --> "vagrant"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:03 PM (Fao6g)

244 Hush YD, I am trying to console myself. Anyway in Andy's mind just getting fired and having to ask his buddies to pay the lawyer is probably horrible persecution. I truly hope he feels tormented, even if his actual woes are barely molehill high.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 01:04 PM (cDw3P)

245 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 01:00 PM (uKj5K)

Sitting pretty, not ruined. And at 51, if a donk get's the Presidency, he'll be FBI Director. A prosecution and disbarment would prevent this, but as things stand, he'll only be 56 in 2025.

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:05 PM (ONvIw)

246 222 If you're interested, here's an excellent Twitter thread on why McCabe was not charged:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vgm6bm2
Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 12:54 PM (sGotD)

thank you, now I understand why he wasn't charged. Short version, "technicalities", plus they would never have gotten a conviction in DC based on the case they had. Sad but that's reality.

Most of us want McCabe charged on this because what he did was just as bad or worse than what Gen'l Flynn was accused of; BUT Flynn's case is about to fall apart because the FBI f'd it up so much from the start. It would have died already if they hadn't been able to push him into a Guilty Plea. (Flynn should never have done that, even he admits that now)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 01:05 PM (trdmm)

247

NYPD: Arrests made during protest seeking free transit, ban on cops in subways

https://tinyurl.com/u8sbn55

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 01:05 PM (aKsyK)

248 Hey guys.

Some but not all of you are aware of fantasies about my dreamboat.

I have shared my feelings in the past on these boards.

Today , if you have been watching the news, something amazing might happen.

I I find myself having thoughts I have never had my entire life. But I really want others to know.

Oh God, I might just be able to swing it but time is of the essence.

What with court dates and primary season upon us.

I can be the middle of a Harvey Weinstein and Mike Bloomberg sandwich.

Posted by: H R Ckinton at February 15, 2020 01:05 PM (Pgcou)

249 I'm enjoying the clusterf*** of the I-5/I-84/I-405 freeway project in Portland. Every grievance group in the city is involved. If that isn't enough entertainment, the I-5 Interstate bridge project is getting restarted.

The guy leading the effort to keep I-5 from being fixed in Portland tweeted this, about a Democratic Representative from Philadelphia who supports fracking, because the Dem would like to run for statewide office some day:

Takes like this are going to age *so* poorly. Like, in ten years, the West Philly, GND-touting DSA gubernatorial candidate is going to parade this drivel across every media platform in the primary, after a hurricane swallowed Miami, + there'll be no boomers left to save him

This guy thinks that we just have ten years to save the planet, and despite constantly complaining on Twitter that he has no money (since he does left-wing political work), has managed to take both a European vacation and a Maui vacation in the last six months. Flying in a carbon-spewing jet aircraft is a-OK if you are sufficiently woke.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 15, 2020 01:06 PM (I2/tG)

250
Hush YD, I am trying to console myself. Anyway in Andy's mind just getting fired and having to ask his buddies to pay the lawyer is probably horrible persecution. I truly hope he feels tormented, even if his actual woes are barely molehill high.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 01:04 PM (cDw3P

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Yeah, I resigned myself long ago to this miscarriage of justice. My consolation is that history books will judge these people harshly, though we won't in our time. Cold comfort, but there it is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 01:06 PM (uKj5K)

251 The Chicago 'Red Line' is how all the yutes come into downtown to mob-rob on the Miracle Mile. So you can say Metro is the Wheel Man for these robberies.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid

Plus, you can rob people at the stations!
Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (vd8XM)

I think BurtTC can back me up on this. When St. Louis built its light rail line(s) they made a point of providing service to the ghetto. You know, so people there could have transportation so they could get out and get jobs elsewhere. Sure.

Meanwhile, the yutes also had transportation so they could get out and do their "work" elsewhere too. If you want to see where the light rail runs, and don't have a map of it, a map of crime rate will suffice to show you exactly where the light rail runs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:07 PM (Fao6g)

252 You're sweet!

Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:57 PM (87gB3)

Why thank you! It's a good line, one of her (Nyro's) best, from her song "Emmie."

Not trying to get all flirty, as Mrs. Botch would not be amused, but I thought your lol gag deserved a response.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 15, 2020 01:07 PM (YqED9)

253 Hello Emmie. Horses and family are pretty good. Our washer is a bit off and always needs to be minded during spin cycles if I don't want to have to shove it back to its proper place.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 15, 2020 01:08 PM (cDw3P)

254 What with court dates and primary season upon us.

I can be the middle of a Harvey Weinstein and Mike Bloomberg sandwich.

Posted by: H R Ckinton

If Weinstein's on top, you'll NEVER roll him off !

Posted by: JT at February 15, 2020 01:08 PM (arJlL)

255 Everything not forbidden, is now mandatory!

Posted by: California at February 15, 2020 01:10 PM (6XZdO)

256 NYPD: Arrests made during protest seeking free transit, ban on cops in subways

https://tinyurl.com/u8sbn55
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 01:05 PM (aKsyK)

The professionally-printed black and yellow signs? A signature of A.N.S.W.E.R., i.e., the CPUSA.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:10 PM (Fao6g)

257 255 Everything not forbidden, is now mandatory!
Posted by: California at February 15, 2020 01:10 PM (6XZdO)/i]

You jest, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:11 PM (Fao6g)

258 Yeah, I resigned myself long ago to this miscarriage of justice. My consolation is that history books will judge these people harshly, though we won't in our time. Cold comfort, but there it is.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 01:06 PM (uKj5K)

I think our situation is getting to be much like renaissance Italy, when a number of competing families fought for power bitterly. A lot of times mostly innocent players would be viciously murdered; other times some of the worst actors of all would have a downfall, but because they were protected by a powerful family they still got to go live out their days in comfort in some country castle.

And of course the most evil and ruthless of all of them usually ended up in charge of the Vatican. Such is life.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 01:11 PM (trdmm)

259 "If you're interested, here's an excellent Twitter thread on why McCabe was not charged"

And I can get a lawyer to make a 30 post Twitter thread on why he should have been charged. At least I hope so, they're paid to make arguments.

The only real issue here is that it's impossible to get a federal fair trial in the DC Federal Courts. If you can't get a fair trial there, why do we have it?

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 01:12 PM (4thlk)

260 This is why Uber and Lyft is eating public transit's lunch in a number of blue cities - being able to avoid mass transit is increasingly valued.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

This, plus of course that good good union baksheesh, are the drivers behind AB 5, which effectively outlaws the gig economy. AB 5 was blatantly aimed at Uber and Lyft.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:13 PM (Fao6g)

261 The professionally-printed black and yellow signs? A signature of A.N.S.W.E.R., i.e., the CPUSA.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:10 PM (Fao6g)

Free transit is now a Human Right?
I want free entertainment, let's see how those fucks in Hollywood like it.

And free electronics and Iphones. Communication is a Human Right, too

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:14 PM (ONvIw)

262 >>> 247 ban on cops in subways
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 01:05 PM (aKsyK)

I can't even imagine what that argument would be.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 01:16 PM (ghFVE)

263 This country's judicial system has become a laughing stock. A shame, but there it is.

Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 01:18 PM (Fs5vw)

264 The only real issue here is that it's impossible to get a federal fair trial in the DC Federal Courts. If you can't get a fair trial there, why do we have it?

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 01:12 PM (4thlk)

Isn't that a question that answers itself? Obviously, because people who want Unfair Trials are still in power and still control much of the system.

We've been trying to tell you that Trump has just barely started to get control, that the entire system is corrupt from top to bottom, and that it has been that way for a long time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 01:18 PM (trdmm)

265 Posted by: lowandslow

AKA Mini Mike?

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 01:19 PM (ghFVE)

266 33 Kalifornia, where else can you step in human feces and a needle in just one step?

That's right we are NUMBER ONE!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (pw+jk)

And our sidewalks are covered in number two!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:19 PM (Fao6g)

267 263 This country's judicial system has become a laughing stock. A shame, but there it is.
Posted by: Sooner at February 15, 2020 01:18 PM (Fs5vw)

For a depressing thought on humanity in general, ask yourself who's system you'd like to trade it out for.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (trdmm)

268 We need a frank discussion on common-sense bum control.

Posted by: Dave Chew at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (EgshT)

269 Free transit is now a Human Right?
I want free entertainment, let's see how those fucks in Hollywood like it.

And free electronics and Iphones. Communication is a Human Right, too
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:14 PM (ONvIw)

You left out free single malt Scotch. And free filet mignon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (Fao6g)

270 >> Sacramento County says it's illegal to work
>> on your own car in your own garage.

San Francisco and Sacramento are the source of nearly all California's ills. Can Trump build a wall around them?

Posted by: 40 miles north at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (o2vOl)

271
On March 3rd, I'm gonna switch to the Dem Party for one day so I can vote for Burnie in the Texas Dem Primary. Don't want to see Bloomie walk away with all the chips.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I'm 'unaffiliated', and we have open primaries, so my plan is also for Bernie. Things could change, we'll see.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 15, 2020 01:22 PM (CDGwz)

272 nood garden

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 01:23 PM (ghFVE)

273 Free transit is now a Human Right?

It most certainly is.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at February 15, 2020 01:23 PM (EgshT)

274 Living the exciting life here boss. I remembered the crock pot cooking bag for the 3 envelope pot roast.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:23 PM (MTxDQ)

275 This is why Uber and Lyft is eating public transit's lunch in a number of blue cities - being able to avoid mass transit is increasingly valued.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

The leftist solution? Make mass transit more attractive? Good one, huh?

No, of course they don't do that. Their solution is to make the alternatives more difficult to use, and hopefully impossible to use.

There's something wrong in leftists' minds. The idea of using the carrot never occurs to them. They immediately go for the stick. A day without coercing somebody into something he doesn't want to do is like a day without raising taxes on something, i.e., anathema to them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:24 PM (Fao6g)

276 >> Sacramento County says it's illegal to work

>> on your own car in your own garage.

San Francisco and Sacramento are the source of nearly all California's ills. Can Trump build a wall around them?

Posted by: 40 miles north at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (o2vOl)

==
Hey what are we a bastion of common sense?

Posted by: Los Angeles at February 15, 2020 01:25 PM (pw+jk)

277 San Francisco and Sacramento are the source of nearly all California's ills. Can Trump build a wall around them?
Posted by: 40 miles north at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (o2vOl)

Extend the SF wall around the entire Bay Area (gotta get Berkeley in this), and build another one around LA.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:26 PM (Fao6g)

278 The Chicago 'Red Line' is how all the yutes come into downtown to mob-rob on the Miracle Mile. So you can say Metro is the Wheel Man for these robberies.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid

Plus, you can rob people at the stations!
Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (vd8XM)

I think BurtTC can back me up on this. When St. Louis built its light rail line(s) they made a point of providing service to the ghetto. You know, so people there could have transportation so they could get out and get jobs elsewhere. Sure.

Meanwhile, the yutes also had transportation so they could get out and do their "work" elsewhere too. If you want to see where the light rail runs, and don't have a map of it, a map of crime rate will suffice to show you exactly where the light rail runs.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:07 PM (Fao6g)

I think that's true, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it mapped. Probably hasn't been... for a reason.

But yeah, I know there are malls where the undesirables have gone, and the security folks have to deal with accusations of "profiling" the yoots who show up there, wandering around the parking lots.

And I know white people who specifically want to live in areas "where the lines don't go."

You can call that rayciss if you want, but some might just call it self-preservation.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)

279 I'm 'unaffiliated', and we have open primaries, so my plan is also for Bernie. Things could change, we'll see.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 15, 2020 01:22 PM (CDGwz)

This is a great idea, then I could vote Burnie. I doubt if it will still be undecided by June 2nd, but I'm in

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:27 PM (ONvIw)

280 Now THIS will really build ridership:

'Simply unacceptable': Disturbing footage emerges of semi-conscious junkies openly shooting up in front of commuters in vomit-covered BART station as San Francisco struggles to contain its homeless problem

https://tinyurl.com/u3fcmhb (goes to DM)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:28 PM (Fao6g)

281 "We've been trying to tell you that Trump has just barely started to get
control, that the entire system is corrupt from top to bottom, and that
it has been that way for a long time."

My point is, there's no reforming the USDC of DC. From the jury pool to the Judges, it's impossible for anyone to have a fair trial. So again, why pretend otherwise, AG Barr should just quit having any case heard there. I'd rather he come out and say "we're not prosecuting McCabe because we can't get an indictment or a fair verdict in these D.C. Courts." But he lives in the D.C. justice system bubble and can't see it.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 01:29 PM (4thlk)

282 You left out free single malt Scotch. And free filet mignon.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (Fao6g)

So I did, but if you make threaten to make rich libs' products free and a human right, it might slap them hard.

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ONvIw)

283 When I was a kid and my parents were planning to immigrate to the US, I really didn't want to go.

But the Beach Boys convinced me that it might be okay.
Maybe I could drive a Thunderbird --- (convertible, of course) --- when I became a teenager.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2020 01:30 PM (M/9m0)

284 The Beach Boys--specifically Brian Wilson--really did a great job of "selling" California by mythologizing it's already strong points--great weather, wide open spaces-and reducing it all to a teenage fantasyland of hot rods, hamburger stands, surfing and of course, hot babes.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2020 11:39 AM (CqE5x)

Yup....I always wondered why Brian Wilson was a fat chubby bastard when most surfers are pretty buff.

Then I found out he never liked to surf.

Weird.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 15, 2020 12:40 PM (Z+IKu)

I'm not going to keep harping on this, because I know some people love the music they grew up with, and that's fine.

I just hate pop music in all its forms.

So the last thing I'll say about this is, hearing Brian Wilson didn't surf, it sorta makes me think of these pop bois who sing about "ooh girl" this, and "oh baby" that... it's always... strange, when you find out he don't actually like girls at all.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hku12)

285 I changed my registration to demonrat for March 3. Will change back to my preferred selection after that. I'll be a 2 min bernie bro.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:31 PM (MTxDQ)

286
'Simply unacceptable': Disturbing footage emerges of semi-conscious junkies openly shooting up in front of commuters in vomit-covered BART station as San Francisco struggles to contain its homeless problem

Socialist Utopia, because they "care"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2020 01:31 PM (oVJmc)

287 We need a frank discussion on common-sense bum control.

Posted by: Dave Chew at February 15, 2020 01:20 PM (EgshT)

When I was a kid visiting NYC for the first time, I noticed most of the bums wore business suits...classy.

Posted by: BignJames at February 15, 2020 01:32 PM (X/Pw5)

288 285 I changed my registration to demonrat for March 3. Will change back to my preferred selection after that. I'll be a 2 min bernie bro.
Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:31 PM (MTxDQ)

Let's all go for it. I'll head to the municipal offices on Tuesday

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:32 PM (ONvIw)

289 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2020 01:11 PM (trdmm)

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Italian city states and the families who ruled them are a pretty decent analogy.

That said - the Florences and Venices and Medicis and Borgias yielded up some highly competent, even brilliant, leaders.

The Clintons? The Bushes? The Obama Machine? Jeebus. This is like the Idiocracy version of corrupt factionalist leadership.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 01:33 PM (uKj5K)

290 Heh. Looks like a lot of us will be 2-minute Bernie Bros!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2020 01:34 PM (M/9m0)

291 290 Heh. Looks like a lot of us will be 2-minute Bernie Bros!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2020 01:34 PM (M/9m0)

And when the pollsters call, I will be able to say I'm a donk voting for Trump!

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:35 PM (ONvIw)

292 Socialist Utopia, because they "care"
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2020 01:31 PM (oVJmc)

Yeah, the "care" about the vagrants. About productive, law-abiding, tax-paying citizens, not so much.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:35 PM (Fao6g)

293 291
And when the pollsters call, I will be able to say I'm a donk voting for Trump!
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:35 PM (ONvIw)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2020 01:35 PM (M/9m0)

294 Biden confronted by Jorge Ramos about the Obama-era children in cages photos.

Biden offers the standard it-wasnt-rape-rape style answer.

Q: Univision got the MSM memo to sh*t-can Uncle Joe?

Posted by: socalcon at February 15, 2020 01:36 PM (Roy2Z)

295 >> 216 It would be more efficient to assign you a personal driver, no?

Thank you for the thought, but that's not practical. Once in Berkeley I ran my scooter out of power (by being an idiot) and was compelled to take a Lyft van to get back to my house. It was ruinously expensive; Lyft and Uber charge 'way more for vans than for cars..

Posted by: grayishpanther at February 15, 2020 01:36 PM (sqZQl)

296 283 When I was a kid and my parents were planning to immigrate to the US, I really didn't want to go.

But the Beach Boys convinced me that it might be okay.
Maybe I could drive a Thunderbird --- (convertible, of course) --- when I became a teenager.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2020 01:30 PM (M/9m0)

That's very cool.

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 01:37 PM (ghFVE)

297 And when the pollsters call, I will be able to say I'm a donk voting for Trump!
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:35 PM (ONvIw)

Heh, hadn't thought of that option. Thanks!

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:37 PM (MTxDQ)

298 >>But the Beach Boys convinced me that it might be okay.
Maybe I could drive a Thunderbird --- (convertible, of course) --- when I became a teenager.

And she'll have fun, fun, fun
Till her daddy takes the T-bird away

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)

299 297: This has a lot of possibilities, If Burnie, does win the nomination, I can pretend to be a donk so disgusted with my party, that Trump is the option.
This also works in reverse.

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:39 PM (ONvIw)

300 Hey what are we a bastion of common sense?
Posted by: Los Angeles at February 15, 2020 01:25 PM (pw+jk)

Give rats the vote!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:40 PM (Fao6g)

301 Everyone is free of course to continue applying only their universal template of systemic corruption/Swamp/2 systems of justice/etc to the situation, but if reality-based opinionating is of any interest, that twatters thread linked earlier is excellent.

Have read her analyses before (she's pretty much an expert in govt.-employee and classified info litigation and prosecution) about other cases.

Anyway, it's obviously beyond dispute for lots of reasons that the problems extend from the jury pool (like the lynch mobs assembled for Scooter Libby or Roger Stone, for example, the latter possibly about to detonate) up to corrupt/biased/poiticized officialdom.

But none of those dire realities really are needed to explain the declination to prosecute in the McCabe case. Well .... the FIRST McCabe case.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 01:41 PM (El6T/)

302 207
Posted by: Clear skies ahead at February 15, 2020 12:48 PM (Pgcou)

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Lawyer up. Shut your trap. Name, address, SSN and nothing more. Say nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 12:49 PM (uKj5K)

As a former Unabomber suspect, I recommend that you do only the first two.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 15, 2020 01:42 PM (di1hb)

303 298
And she'll have fun, fun, fun
Till her daddy takes the T-bird away
Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2020 01:44 PM (M/9m0)

304
But none of those dire realities really are needed to explain the declination to prosecute in the McCabe case. Well .... the FIRST McCabe case.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 01:41 PM (El6T/)

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Sure, but it's sort of implied. Whether you're being charged by some local yokel prosecutor or the Feds, SOP is to throw the entire book at you, overcharging like hell, even on hopeless charges, to grind you down and get you to fold up. Ask me how I know.

That is unless you are one of "them." Then, prosecutors get all pretend-practical and pretend-ethical.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 01:44 PM (uKj5K)

305 And next time I'm called for jury duty, the donk lawyers in Trenton will think I'm on their side!

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2020 01:45 PM (ONvIw)

306 The DM article I linked to above has these deathless lines:

San Francisco's issue with homelessness is the result of many factors, but income disparity plays a major role.

In the metro area, the average income of the top one percent of households was $3.6 million in 2013, a study from the California Budget and Policy Centre showed.

That amount was 44 times the average income of the bottom 99 percent -who earned on average $81,094.

The study showed San Francisco had the highest rate of income disparity by a wide margin - the city was trailed by Los Angeles, where the top one per cent was earning 32.8 times more than the 99 per cent.

"Income disparity" has NOTHING to do with it, but thanks for the commie plug there. Those bums in the BART can't afford to live anywhere in the country, because they're drug-addled and obviously not working at all.

Yet again leftists refuse to come to grips with reality. Building housing for these people, and addressing "income inequality," will not fix substance abuse problems, but nice try, comrade.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 01:47 PM (Fao6g)

307 302 As a former Unabomber suspect
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 15, 2020 01:42 PM (di1hb)

That must have made for an interesting few years!

Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 01:48 PM (ghFVE)

308

The U.S. Census Bureau plans to try out a lot of new technology. It's the first once-a-decade census in which most people are being encouraged to answer questions via the internet. Later in the process, census workers who knock on the doors of homes that have not responded will use smartphones and a new mobile app to relay answers.

"I must tell you, the Iowa (caucus) debacle comes to mind when I think of the census going digital," Eleanor Holmes Norton, the congressional delegate for the District of Columbia, said this week at a hearing on the census.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 01:51 PM (aKsyK)

309 I have switched from using homeless/bums to using vagrant. I imagine the snowflakes have no idea what that word means.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:51 PM (MTxDQ)

310 Should have included:

BUT it seems that some of the exact same issues apply/applied to the Flynn "case", as those that may well have made McCabe unsuitable for prosecution in this case.

Ahemmm.

Oh - with a few additional issues. Like 302 originals disappearing (WTFF?!) and same 302s being altered over time (as I recall, with *McCabe* involved). And lots of other prosecution misconduct.

So the disparity between what may well be a normal technically sound call on McCabe and the nightmare Flynn has been put through is not limited to this particular point, obviously.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 01:55 PM (El6T/)

311 Damn IMG.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 15, 2020 01:55 PM (jjyGW)

312 "But none of those dire realities really are needed to explain the
declination to prosecute in the McCabe case. Well .... the FIRST McCabe
case."

I'm pretty sure you need the Grand Jury to bring a federal criminal indictment. My point is, why not tell the people we tried to indict McCabe but the USDC of DC showed us again it's impossible to get justice there.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 01:58 PM (4thlk)

313 Oh, another omission.

The Flynn outrage is another part of the raging structure fire known as the "Mueller special counsel" disaster.

Bold prediction: notwithstanding any amount of jaw-dropping evidence of misconduct that emerges over time from the Mueller farce, it will *never* get a serious look from either DOJ or Congress. Previous special/independent counsel debacles (though the problems there were more the inherent ones, not wild misconduct) actually resulted in legislative and regulatory changes.

Not this one, the grand-daddy of them all (previous ones actually dealt with real criminal misconduct - this one of course had zero underlying crimes to investigate, and was entirely political - as is confirmed even by apologists for its creation, who cite political strategery as an excuse).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 02:01 PM (El6T/)

314 >>I'm pretty sure you need the Grand Jury to bring a federal criminal indictment. My point is, why not tell the people we tried to indict McCabe but the USDC of DC showed us again it's impossible to get justice there.

Do we know that's the case or is that just speculation?

Here's an interesting question. Why did it take the DOJ so long to decide not to charge McCabe? The facts haven't changed since the spring of 2018 so what was the hold up?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 02:02 PM (ZLI7S)

315 California dreamin'
On such a winter's day

Posted by: zombie Mama Cass at February 15, 2020 02:03 PM (M4zNB)

316 The U.S. Census Bureau plans to try out a lot of new technology.

Oh God, here we go again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 02:04 PM (Fao6g)

317 lowandslow the central point of the linked analysis was that there were inherent technical problems with the "case" - nothing to do with grand jury or jury problems.

As it seems likely a grand jury had nothing to do with the decision, no reason to refer to it.

AGAIN: not disputing that the degraded citizenry of the Beltway is a problem (unwillingness to act like adult citizens and apply law). But it probably didn't even enter into this call.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 02:04 PM (El6T/)

318 309 I have switched from using homeless/bums to using vagrant. I imagine the snowflakes have no idea what that word means.
Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:51 PM (MTxDQ)

I make a point of using "vagrant," because that's what they are. "Homeless" suggests that if they only had a home, everything would be fine, and that's obviously not true. "Homeless" also elicits sympathy, whereas "vagrant" elicits opprobrium, which is appropriate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 02:05 PM (Fao6g)

319 Read MacAdoo's analysis. It's about the actual criminality of given actions/statements in particular situations, and the admissibility of evidence. Her analysis looks sound.

If it is, we have a pretty good guess as to the prosecution decision.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 02:06 PM (El6T/)

320 The U.S. Census Bureau plans to try out a lot of new technology.
Oh God, here we go again.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2020 02:04 PM (Fao6g)
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That's not all that's new. As of Dec. 2019, you no longer have to be a U.S. citizen to work the Census.

I've been working on background checks for Census workers. It is impossible to do on most of the non-citizens that appear, yet here we are.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 02:10 PM (sGotD)

321
IANAL, but my reading of the definition of "infamous" crime is that unless its a misdemeanor seems to imply the fedgov is required to empanel a Grand Jury for indictment.

I had never really looked into this until all of this "decline to prosecute" our palz every single time crap came about.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 02:11 PM (uKj5K)

322 "Do we know that's the case or is that just speculation"

I looked, the simple answer is yes, unless the max penalty is less then one year.

"Here's an interesting question. Why did it take the DOJ so long to
decide not to charge McCabe? The facts haven't changed since the spring
of 2018 so what was the hold up?"

Who knows? I haven't a clue what goes on inside the DOJ, probably a lot of wasted time on the internet and internal raging that Trump is President.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 02:12 PM (4thlk)

323 I've been working on background checks for Census workers. It is impossible to do on most of the non-citizens that appear, yet here we are.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 02:10 PM (sGotD)

Geez, that is so fubar. I worked for the census in 1999. Seems it's turned into a real joke. Didn't the reign of error move that dept. to the executive? I may be misremembering. I remember something hinkey going on.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:14 PM (MTxDQ)

324 "Read MacAdoo's analysis. It's about the actual criminality of given
actions/statements in particular situations, and the admissibility of
evidence. Her analysis looks sound"

I read it, my point was any good lawyer can make good arguments, especially when it comes to not doing something. I talk myself out of not doing things all the time and I'm not even a lawyer.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 02:16 PM (4thlk)

325 Geez, that is so fubar. I worked for the census in 1999. Seems it's turned into a real joke. Didn't the reign of error move that dept. to the executive? I may be misremembering. I remember something hinkey going on.
Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:14 PM (MTxDQ)
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I'm not actually a Census worker; we're contractors. It's a nightmare. The "refugees" and "asylum seekers" are the most fun.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 02:22 PM (sGotD)

326
There could be any reason for the delay in the decision. Nobody knows. I'm sure some will say "oh, they were doing this investigation and putting the screws to McCabe, and he finally rolled." But I wouldn't count on that until they've got a conviction behind his testimony. They don't normally just go public and help a suspect out like that, after all. No more leverage that way.

I'll lean toward the other side of Occam's razor, here. Slow-walking this thing until the public has forgotten the details, and then whitewashing their dirty co-conspirator, giving the media grist for the "exonerated!" mill, and foiling further investigation of others.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 02:25 PM (uKj5K)

327 Forced Busing Works!

Posted by: B.A.R.T. & S.F. Council Members at February 15, 2020 02:25 PM (+nWCH)

328 IrishEi, I was lucky, I was assigned the rural part of the County. I did it evenings and wknds. At the time I drove a '72 chev pu. I hated the bureaucracy, but didn't have to deal with them much after so-called training. The extra $ was nice during the end of the clinton yrs.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:27 PM (MTxDQ)

329 >>I'll lean toward the other side of Occam's razor, here. Slow-walking this thing until the public has forgotten the details, and then whitewashing their dirty co-conspirator, giving the media grist for the "exonerated!" mill, and foiling further investigation of others.

Maybe. Or maybe it was a calculated move.

As has been laid out in the link Irish provided and elsewhere, this was a low probability win case at best. And while we know McCabe is a scumbag and we know what happened in 2016 and before we are distinctly in the minority and it's unlike the media is going to tell the public anytime soon. The public doesn't need to forget the details, the vast majority of them never knew the details.

If you believe, as I do, that Barr is not a deep state plant and he meant it when he said he was going to get to the bottom of how this all started then we have a lot of stuff that will be coming down the pike over the next year+. And as much as this is a legal issue it is also a political one and in order to be really successful Barr needs to get public opinion behind him.

The media and the left are already painting this as political payback and Barr as a Trump puppet, go read Sally Yates opinion piece in the WaPo today for a perfect example. The way you don't get public support is by losing a case right out of the blocks on relatively minor stuff before the big stuff starts hitting.

Durham and team have been around a lot longer than most people think. Barr didn't hire him, he was already there when Barr took the job, Barr just tweaked assignments. Given how he reacted to Horowitz' report, saying that he did not agree that political bias was not involved, tells me he found something. Maybe it was the altered email, maybe it was a lot of stuff. But it wouldn't surprise me if it is a lot more impactful than leaking to the media and lying to the FBI.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 02:32 PM (ZLI7S)

330 I speak politico - I can translate:

More ~~money~~ graft is needed!

Fixed!

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at February 15, 2020 02:35 PM (d6mdH)

331 I'm in City of Rancho Cordova in Sacramento County... it's run by Nazis...and they're worse than Illinois nazis.

You can't prune your own tree. Must hire an arborist.

Can't have a chain link fence..
But exception for their property.

Essentially any identifiable object in view on your property is illegal.

Posted by: torabora at February 15, 2020 02:39 PM (atc9m)

332

Afternoon, non gardeners and other normal people.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 15, 2020 02:40 PM (aAFjn)

333 The U.S. Census Bureau plans to try out a lot of new technology.

BZZZZZZtttt !

Posted by: JT at February 15, 2020 02:43 PM (arJlL)

334

Barr is a whitewasher for the Swamp. That's what he meant when he went on Fake News to tell the president to let him do his job -- his job of whitewashing the malfeasance and crimes of the Swamp.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 15, 2020 02:44 PM (aAFjn)

335

Pete Buttigieg, the Democrats' top-tier 2020 frontrunner, was met with LGBTQ protesters during his fundraiser at the National LGBTQ Center for the Arts in San Francisco on Friday.

Buttigieg, who is openly gay, received a question from the audience about his husband when he was interrupted by two activists. They were quickly shouted down and escorted out of the center.

The two were part of the group Queers Against Pete, who were protesting outside the building chanting, "Hey Pete, come out, we've got some things to talk about!"

There were about a dozen activists at the scene, who held up banners reading, "People over corporations" and "Free college".

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 02:44 PM (aKsyK)

336 Huntington Beach 1960-1993 most excellent adventure.

Posted by: Summer of Love at February 15, 2020 02:45 PM (FJrl0)

337

Fags Against Pete??

You can't make this shit up.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 15, 2020 02:46 PM (aAFjn)

338
There were about a dozen activists at the scene, who held up banners reading, "People over corporations" and "Free college".
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 02:44

And the freak show continues apace. It gets so tiresome. I'm binge watching Mountain Men and doing chores.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:47 PM (MTxDQ)

339

Okay, I'll say it.

FAP??

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 15, 2020 02:48 PM (aAFjn)

340 Huntington Beach 1960-1993 most excellent adventure.
Posted by: Summer of Love at February

HB 1961 to 1975, so glad the 'rents moved us to rural CO. Too bad it's gone off the deep end too. Although, not too bad locally.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:49 PM (MTxDQ)

341 Many years (decades) ago I went through the agriculture check point on I-80 into California after driving almost the continental length of that highway. The med fruit fly was the big scare then. All I had in my pick up truck was a cooler of Budweiser, a sleeping bag, and a Ruger Blackhawk. So I was good to go back then.

Posted by: Cosda at February 15, 2020 02:54 PM (O9VW1)

342 Yeah, but see, that's the problem. Median home listing in HB now is $919,000 and going up by 2% a year. The Southern California real estate market is hot as heck!

Posted by: grayishpanther at February 15, 2020 02:55 PM (sqZQl)

343 The extra $ was nice during the end of the clinton yrs.
Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:27 PM (MTxDQ)
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The money is good for part-time work. People have been telling me they're making anywhere from $20 to $26 an hour, depending on the job.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 02:57 PM (sGotD)

344 If mom and dad had waited one more year, they would have made an extra 50K in 1975. They bought the house in 61. So glad we got out. I was there last August to take dad's ashes to the ocean. Never again, with one exception that I don't want to think about.

Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 02:58 PM (MTxDQ)

345
Median home listing in HB now is $919,000 and going up by 2% a year. The Southern California real estate market is hot as heck!
Posted by: grayishpanther

Could we have kippers for breakfast
Mummy dear, Mummy dear
They got to have 'em in L.A.
Cos everyone's a millionaire

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 02:58 PM (aKsyK)

346 The two were part of the group Queers Against Pete, who were protesting outside the building chanting, "Hey Pete, come out, we've got some things to talk about!"
~~~

Hahaha. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 15, 2020 02:59 PM (sGotD)

347 Queers Against Pete

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Splitters!

Posted by: Poofters Opposing Pete at February 15, 2020 03:03 PM (CVCGQ)

348 BART is roll-on-roll-off, and 97% of my destinations are within scooter range of a BART station. if I didn't have BART, I'd be very close to homebound.
Posted by: grayishpanther at February 15, 2020 12:46 PM (sqZQl)

Many transit systems have handicapped vans that give you door-to-door service, with no bums to deal with.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 15, 2020 03:04 PM (LxWV7)

349 I have heard, I think at WUWT, that Phoenix has the only public transportation in America that is more energy efficient than everyone driving themselves.
Posted by: Emmie at February 15, 2020 12:55 PM (87gB3)

A lack of significant hills helps that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 15, 2020 03:08 PM (LxWV7)

350 Over the course of 18 months, I've gone from "hey I like this guy Barr" to "uh oh I don't trust this guy Barr" to now this week - "Barr is a sleazy slimy piece of fetid ratshit". Fuck that asshole, cuz he's gonna fuck you good. But at least you'll be fucked by the best.

I feel sorry for the people waiting for Barr to drop any real hammer. Hammers should have been dropping for the past year+. So many possible hammers.

You're like the ones who thought stand-up straight-shooter Comey was gonna do anything but slobber and lick all over Hillary Clinton at the height of an election season. Fuck.

Posted by: ... at February 15, 2020 03:10 PM (vfifs)

351 >>I feel sorry for the people waiting for Barr to drop any real hammer. Hammers should have been dropping for the past year+. So many possible hammers.

>>You're like the ones who thought stand-up straight-shooter Comey was gonna do anything but slobber and lick all over Hillary Clinton at the height of an election season. Fuck.

You should tell Trump. Barr has apparently fooled him too.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 03:12 PM (ZLI7S)

352

Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post had the nerve to accuse AG Barr of "playing the role" of Trump's "wingman."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2020 03:21 PM (aKsyK)

353 You should tell Trump. Barr has apparently fooled him too.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2020 03:12 PM (ZLI7S)

Jack, I love ya so this isn't remotely personal. But was Sessions "working with" Trump when he was actively recusing himself and then repeatedly fucking Trump in public, or wasn't he? Because I distinctly remember you saying/implying Sessions' spineless treason was part of a grand plan.

I am one of the earliest Trump adopters in this place by the way... it took a good while for most to catch up with where I was in very early 2016 - and taking a lot of stick for it, mind you - and I haven't changed my opinion about him since.

But the swamp is very, very swampy. And Barr has been making swamp noises - which I was not even listening for - since about the time he gave that big useless red meat Federalist speech. Dead GOPe giveaway, and I *so* wanted to be wrong. I still want to be wrong.

Posted by: ... at February 15, 2020 03:22 PM (vfifs)

354 23 it's a shame CA is so fcuked up. I always wanted to see Joshua Tree, Yosemite and Death Valley. But I wouldn't dare set foot in the state. It seems everything is against the law.

Come on vacation.
Leave on probation.
It's our DoJs motto!

Posted by: waepnedmann at February 15, 2020 03:23 PM (xW5NI)

355
Posted by: ... at February 15, 2020 03:22 PM (vfifs)

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I'm highly skeptical of Barr, but I don't think it's a typical case of being a swamp-rat, Deep State operative.

I think Barr is more-or-less untainted, but a *solid, lifelong company man*.

I think he's trying to restore order in the increasingly lawless institution he spent his career serving, while trying to minimize damage to it in terms of public opinion. And I think it will have the reverse effect, embolden the criminals, and enrage a large segment of the public.

You might call it reflexive swampin'.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 03:31 PM (uKj5K)

356

Queers Against Buttsex

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 15, 2020 03:32 PM (aAFjn)

357 #354 there is a laundry list of weapons that are legal in almost all other states but are prohibited in California. Some may be maintained in California by residents who register them but if the resident takes the registered weapon out of state he can't bring it back.

These things all infringe on your 2nd A rights but they know you don't have the financial resources to fight them. You'll give up your guns plead guilty pay a fine and then will be disarmed in the other 49 states because you're a felon

Hate them? You should. There isn't any redeeming qualities to them. They're as bad as any in Russia China elsewhere and they run California.

Posted by: torabora at February 15, 2020 03:42 PM (atc9m)

358 I have switched from using homeless/bums to using vagrant. I imagine the snowflakes have no idea what that word means.
Posted by: Infidel at February 15, 2020 01:51 PM (MTxDQ)

"Parasite" works just fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 15, 2020 03:49 PM (LxWV7)

359 I would think Huntington Beach '61-'75 would have been pretty decent. Just after the really golden era, but not bad, as part of the LA megalopolis kinda sorta.

San Diego in that period was paradise. A lot less crowded than the whole LA thing, of course, but also closer desert/mountains/quiet safe Mexico/better beaches (coastline, if you use the waves).

To each their own.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 03:51 PM (El6T/)

360 @43 Brian Wilson almost never wrote the lyrics to the songs he composed.
You could go after Jan and Dean, you know, with the car wreck and the paralysis and Al Gore campaigning and all.
I guess if you never listened to music before the Beach Boys came out, and had never read any of the many literary representations of California's many scenes, and in various other ways had your head clear the hell up your ass for your whole life until one moment you could blame one guy for, yeah, it's all about Brian WiIson. But Jesus guys. Doesn't the shit ever get old?

You're not mad at William Bendix for "Life of Riley"?
All that hate and envy in your guts is going to burn.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 15, 2020 03:56 PM (8IOEj)

361 Jeebus people, do what you want, travel where you want, but CA is not even remotely the place so many here talk about. As a visitor, unless you're packing all kinds of gunz (why would you, if you're traveling?), you're not affected by the idiotic unconstitutional gun laws. Who takes an AR to go see the redwoods, or enjoy the wine/food/scenery of central coast, or enjoy the ocean?

I suppose concealed carry could be an issue, but if you actually want to do/see anything here, hardly a reason not to do it. Just a few days.

I never travel around the state without hardware. Fortunately have several different kinds of toys I own to choose from. No issues of any kind.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2020 03:56 PM (El6T/)

362 You might call it reflexive swampin'.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2020 03:31 PM (uKj5K)

LOL, maybe. I'm pretty practical so to me I guess there's no real difference? Or at some point it becomes difficult to prove either way?
Like some people still think John Roberts is "reflexively swamping" to protect the integrity of the Court. But the integrity of the Court doesn't *always* land in Far Left Media Opinion Land, does it? Yet somehow...

I never expected Barr to publicly complain about Trump's tweets. Especially the day before a huge slap like the McCabe one. That's a bad ol' sign. As I said on the day of, somehow Democrats manage to never do this shit to each other, but they still get their 8 years at a time, don't they?

Posted by: ... at February 15, 2020 04:12 PM (vfifs)

363 I follow you on all of that.
But the claim was that " this kind of activity increases vehicle traffic." I don't see how it does that.
Posted by: m at February 15, 2020 12:05 PM (ghFVE)

Oh, come on. It is notorious that car guys are always driving to the parts store for a new part. Wouldn't want that.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 15, 2020 04:39 PM (eoQWY)

364
That last line gives it away. It's about eliminating car ownership, period.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at February 15, 2020 12:05 PM (Nu6Gg)

It would also force you to a repair shop and you'll pay a hazardous waste disposal "fee" to the state and county.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 15, 2020 04:48 PM (t6XCL)

365 test

Posted by: test i ng at February 15, 2020 04:54 PM (CxqCt)

366 34
"The chemicals involved in major automobile repair can pollute our

neighborhoods and endanger the health and wellbeing of our residents"

I
wonder how much to they charge to dispose of oil and tranny fluid. If
they provided free disposal they wouldn't be throwing oil out in
ditches. But that would cut into the subsidies the corporate waste
disposal outfit get.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2020 11:35 AM (4thlk)

California will pay you for tranny fluid. Don't be throwin' it out.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 15, 2020 06:18 PM (vLXme)

367 You know what would fiv San Francisco public transportation problems?

More diversity. Because it has worked so well everywhere else.

Posted by: Ripley at February 15, 2020 06:21 PM (NbRJx)

368 grayishpanthe, public transpo is necessary for people who don't have alternatives but when they started expanding it to encourage us to "get out of our cars" and didn't follow through with keeping it up, it began to lose riders.
Of course we are glad you have the independence it affords!

Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2020 07:12 PM (qlTN9)

369 >> 348 Many transit systems have handicapped vans that give you door-to-door service, with no bums to deal with.

I wish! My only options in that regard are Uber and Lyft, and the last time I took a Lyft van I think it was $70 for a six-mile ride.

Posted by: grayishpanther at February 15, 2020 08:00 PM (sqZQl)

370 I'm sure it's been asked, but, How the fuck do they know what you are doing in your own garage?

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at February 15, 2020 09:44 PM (af5xa)

371 Infedel 2:49 made the great escape to greener pastures, life is good. Took my parents a few more years but yes crazy prices now!

Posted by: Summer of Love at February 15, 2020 09:55 PM (FJrl0)

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