The Morning Rant

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THINGS NEVERTRUMPERS SAY

"YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET BEHIND HIM FOR THE SAKE OF UNITY" shouted the National Review editors after publishing their 'Against Trump' special edition.

"CONSERVATIVES NEED TO CONSERVE CONSERVATISM BY VOTING FOR HILLARY!" proclaimed Bret Stephens during the 2016 campaign.

"THAT'S IT, I'M FED UP, I'M LEAVING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOREVER RIGHT NOW" pouted Tom Nichols for the 12th time.

"TRUMP IS NOT A REAL CONSERVATIVE! bellowed the Bulwark as it espoused Democratic policies, acted as fluffers for Democratic politicians, and encouraged its readers to vote for Democrats.

"WHY DO THOSE STUPID YOKELS VOTE FOR TRUMP INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO ME?" sneered Rick Wilson as he yukked it up and made fun of Trump voters on CNN with his BFF Don Lemon.

"TRUMP SUPPORTERS BETTER LOOK OUT, BECAUSE HE WON'T BE AROUND FOREVER, AND WHEN HE'S GONE, OOOOH YOU'RE GOING TO PAY DEARLY, YOU'LL SEE!" said the Weekly Standard shortly before their web site went dark.

"I CAN PROVE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, WITH GEOMETRIC LOGIC, THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA TO GET A QUID PRO QUO WITH THE UKRAINE WHICH OBSTRUCTED CONGRESS FROM INVESTIGATING HIS ABUSE OF POWER" ranted Cap'n Kristol from the lido deck as he reached into his pocket and fondled his ball bearings.

"TRUMP IS AN IMMORAL DIRTBAG!" exclaimed Charlie Sykes as he wrote his 3rd alimony check.

"TRUMP ISN'T A REAL CHRISTIAN!" screeched David French as he polished his gaudy, oversized halo.

"I'M NOT AN ANNOYING LITTLE RODENT!" squeaked Ben Shapiro as the smell of moldy cheese caused his whiskers to twitch.

"TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE A CULT!" chanted all the NeverTrumpers in unison.




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"Diversity For Thee, But Not For Me"

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Because He Was Lying His Ass Off?

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Still True:

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Summary of Trump's Last 10 Days:

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Who Dis:

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For the 'Ettes:

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Wednesday's celebs: Dancer Cyd Charisse, also character actor George Sanders, and Five Golden Hours is the movie they were in together.



Today's Edition Of The Morning Rant Is Brought To You By Ice Cream Cake:

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(click for bigger cake)

Ice Cream Cake recipe here.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:08 AM




Comments

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1 Heather Thomas Lee Majors

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 14, 2020 11:09 AM (ch6++)

2 Florence Pugh and. . .?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:09 AM (bDqIh)

3 Th

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 14, 2020 11:09 AM (s+VTU)

4 And my first 1st, woohoo!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 14, 2020 11:09 AM (ch6++)

5 Rd

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 14, 2020 11:09 AM (s+VTU)

6 No idea.

Posted by: BignJames at February 14, 2020 11:10 AM (X/Pw5)

7 If I'm not first, it's because I read the content and called the corgis

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:10 AM (KUaJL)

8 Rick Wilson and Nicolle Wallace ran the worst campaign since Susan Estrich, and I care what they think because...

Posted by: OCBill at February 14, 2020 11:10 AM (Ij9pi)

9 That's just ice cream in a triangle shape.

Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:10 AM (YVvSQ)

10 Is the dude French? I didn't see "Little Women". . .

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:11 AM (bDqIh)

11 2 Florence Pugh and. . .?
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:09 AM (bDqIh)


Half credit.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:11 AM (jrTqB)

12 Regarding those NeverTrumpers, are there any other baskets beyond that one?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 14, 2020 11:11 AM (ch6++)

13 8 Rick Wilson and Nicolle Wallace ran the worst campaign since Susan Estrich, and I care what they think because...
Posted by: OCBill at February 14, 2020 11:10 AM (Ij9pi)


Did they do John McCain's failure theatre campaign?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:11 AM (jrTqB)

14 Ice cream cake rated 5 toots!

Posted by: Eric Swalwell, Air Quality Expert at February 14, 2020 11:12 AM (vbuHy)

15 I'm not even gonna hazard a guess on the pics.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (s+VTU)

16 NeverTrumpers are loud, but powerless. They have their media perch - for now - but if Trump gets re-elected I can see them being shown the door.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (hLRSq)

17 Ice cream cake IS the recipe for Ice Cream Cake.

Posted by: klaftern at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (RuIsu)

18 I think the first one is Jonathan Yaniv's Tinder photo.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (w2+ag)

19 Woah! Can't say I know either mystery guest. She is as hot as the young Denise Richards.

He needs a shave. And in pic No. 2, he looks like Michael Forest ("Apollo" on ST:TOS). But I know it's not him. (Forest would be a good choice for the Who Dis? one morning. . . .)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (Ejm1K)

20 10 Is the dude French?.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:11 AM (bDqIh)


Israeli.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (jrTqB)

21 Click for bigger cake. Okay!

Posted by: no good deed at February 14, 2020 11:14 AM (MmFTx)

22 They are fun to taunt and mock, though. Smack 'em around like a piñata.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 14, 2020 11:14 AM (hLRSq)

23
LaWanda Page and Jimmy Page

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:14 AM (kw5n8)

24 Florence Pugh is a pretty good actress. I liked her in Midsommar. Well, before she got super drugged out for the final half hour.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:14 AM (q80AH)

25 Dolly Parton and Fred Astaire.

Posted by: dantesed at February 14, 2020 11:14 AM (88xKn)

26 Pulling from the willowed thread:

Then Bond shouldn't be a character, just an archetype on which to hang action set pieces.

If that's all you want from Bond, fine, have fun with Roger Moore.

But the idea that it's invalid to take an existing character and add dimension to him is weird. I mean, it's not like they're making him someone he's not. He's still the badass spy who beds beautiful women and does awesome things. There's just more to him than that now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:12 AM (q80AH)


As a devil's advocate here, I think when people feel this way what they mean is that they feel lied to or tricked. They thought a Bond movie was going to be a certain kind of thing. What they got was not what they were expecting. Sometimes, that's good, but sometimes it's not. When people's expectations don't match what they're given, they frequently get angry.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (KUaJL)

27 Yay, Gorilla Pundit!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (Ki5SV)

28 Ice cream cake! I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (aS1PU)

29 I just read that President trump has admitted to sending Guiliani to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the bitemes.

Is this some kind of impeachable offense?

Posted by: PopCornPop at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (/LQkF)

30 Susan Estrich. Have not thought about her for years. Did she die, or just leave the field of battle ?Thought that voice of hers was really interesting. Unfiltered cigarettes and bourbon vibe to it.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (90T4r)

31 I don't know who either of the people are, but they are both pretty.

Posted by: no good deed at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (MmFTx)

32 Well today's cutie isn't a classic beauty, but she can photograph well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (l4C/z)

33 Things Trumpers say to Never Trumpers:

Hey dude, suck my taint!

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (s+VTU)

34
*Gorilla*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (eg609)

35 I'm reposting this from last night just because I think it's funny.

Healthy Holly's Big House

Justin Fenton@justin_fenton
New: Federal prosecutors asking for nearly five years in prison for former [Baltimore] Mayor Catherine Pugh, and lay out an array of new details about her fraud case in document that spans more than 90 pages including exhibits

Colin Campbell@cmcampbell6
Pugh's "personal inventory" of Healthy Holly books never exceeded 8,216 copies, prosecutors say. But through a three-dimensional scheme, they say, she was able to resell 132,116 copies for a total of $859,960.

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She sold 8216 books 132,116 times for a quick $859,960. Hell of business plan, Cathy!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (+y/Ru)

36 Not sure who the trim is but that's Jean Paul Belmondo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (Yp/pV)

37 Daniel Litman - Little Drummer Girl
Nice pick, OM!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (bDqIh)

38 30 Susan Estrich. Have not thought about her for years. Did she die, or just leave the field of battle ?Thought that voice of hers was really interesting. Unfiltered cigarettes and bourbon vibe to it.
Posted by: tubal

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Yeah, the voice you hear in a bar that asks "Wouldya buy a lady a drink?"

To which I usually reply "Sure! If one walks in."

Posted by: Tonypete at February 14, 2020 11:17 AM (Y4EXg)

39 32 Well today's cutie isn't a classic beauty, but she can photograph well.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (l4C/z)


That's exactly what I thought.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:17 AM (jrTqB)

40 She sold 8216 books 132,116 times for a quick $859,960. Hell of business plan, Cathy!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (+y/Ru)

And yet, less sentencing time than Roger Stone.

Posted by: Tami at February 14, 2020 11:17 AM (cF8AT)

41 Oh, Happy Valentine's Day, reprobates. Take your significant life forms out to lunch or dinner. And let them pick the place. That's a Protip. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (90T4r)

42 36 Not sure who the trim is but that's Jean Paul Belmondo.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (Yp/pV)


Oh no it ain't.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (jrTqB)

43 Hell of business plan, Cathy!


I hope she winds up destitute and living in a garbage pile in west Baltimore.

Posted by: no good deed at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (MmFTx)

44 I don't understand why neverTrumpers don't stop their sneering long enough to find out what Trump supporters actually believe and why they support Trump.
It's almost as if they're willfully blind.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (Uu+Jp)

45 Free Never Trumpers! Free Mumai! Free 20 Oz. Dew!

Posted by: BignJames at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (X/Pw5)

46
Rula Lenska and Slim Whitman?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (kw5n8)

47 26 As a devil's advocate here, I think when people feel this way what they mean is that they feel lied to or tricked. They thought a Bond movie was going to be a certain kind of thing. What they got was not what they were expecting. Sometimes, that's good, but sometimes it's not. When people's expectations don't match what they're given, they frequently get angry.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (KUaJL)

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This is true, but I've never quite understood it.

I want good stories. Regarding Bond, we have a couple dozen movies. Just having the same take in each of them gets old. You need new variations and flavors from time to time.

Timothy Dalton was very different from Moore, and that was a good change (though The Living Daylights could have been better as a film, it was definitely a step up from A View to a Kill). Brosnan was very different from Dalton (kind of a mashup between Connery and Moore). Lazenby was almost an innocent when compared to the rest.

There's nothing inherently invalid about these different takes, but there was definitely antagonism towards the new takes when they appeared. Hell, Gene Siskel never let anyone be Bond in his mind other than Connery, and his reviews of every other Bond film are boring and predictable because of that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (q80AH)

48 Well dang. Both look familiar but my brain isn't functioning this morning.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (axyOa)

49 I just read that President trump has admitted to sending Guiliani to Ukraine to dig up dirt on the bitemes.

Is this some kind of impeachable offense?

Posted by: PopCornPop at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (/LQkF)


Dude, we already know about this, what do you think that entire Schiff & Nadler Super Impeachment Power Hour we went through was all about? Rudy has been saying he received information, Barr has said the DOJ got information from Rudy - and so what?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (hLRSq)

50 37 Daniel Litman - Little Drummer Girl
Nice pick, OM!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (bDqIh)


And you win today's prize:


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Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (jrTqB)

51
Susan Estrich. Have not thought about her for years. Did she die, or just leave the field of battle ?Thought that voice of hers was really interesting. Unfiltered cigarettes and bourbon vibe to it.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:15 AM (90T4r)






I always thought she sounded like Harvey Fierstein.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (eg609)

52 Present, Sirs and Madames!

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (T8cPY)

53 Speaking of Cyd Charisse:

Alan Jay Lerner tells the story of a well-known lyricist - it might have been Yip (The Wizard of Oz) Harburg, but I'm not near my books - who was walking down a street with a friend who challenged him to find a rhyme to the name "Charisse."

Without missing a beat, he responded:

Cyd Charisse!
Up there on the mantlepiece;
You're quite a shock there -
We need a clock there!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (Ki5SV)

54 ice cream!
cake!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (G546f)

55 That's just ice cream in a triangle shape.
Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:10 AM


If you don't want the triangle ice cream cake, try our new whale ice cream cake!

Posted by: Carvelle's at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (ejd/p)

56 "YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET BEHIND
HIM FOR THE SAKE OF UNITY" shouted the National Review editors after
publishing their 'Against Trump' special edition.


The NRO lost me long ago. They are a RNCe site and not conservative. A bunch of RINOs and DIABLOs.

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

57 And the problem with the Craig films is the writing and Daniel Craig himself.

The writing is terrible in everything after Casino Royale. The franchise has basically been at war with Bond for decades, back to the Timothy Dalton days. They hate the idea of a hard man handing bad guys roughly.

And add the actor to that mix. He's the typical emascualted Brit, despite his gym membership. When the actor hates his character, it's hard to make me care.

Casino Royale is Quality. Everything else starring Daniel Craig should be avoided by Bond fans. And possibly everyone else.

...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)

58 No idea who they are but the babe tingles my naughty bits. Oh, and I'd rather not think about Kristol fondling his ball bearings, thanks.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 14, 2020 11:20 AM (RD7QR)

59 I saw that Biden thing a few days ago. Funny as Hell.

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 11:20 AM (mpXpK)

60 I approve of photo 2 of mystery guy

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:20 AM (G546f)

61 Wow, Pelosi this morning.

Trump deeply hurt the rule of law, because he tweeted about a clearly bad DOJ decision.

Right after she ran an impeachment with no due process, and unconstitutional charges.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at February 14, 2020 11:20 AM (NgKpN)

62 NeverTrump has only themselves to blame.

They could have gotten behind Trump, and today Kristol would be writing letters like "President Trump has done great things...but he can't do it alone. Help us help him, by indicating the amount of your donation below..."

But they didn't. And they lost their cushy little gig.

I figure it has to be hubris of some kind. For example, after Trump announced his campaign, Kristol called him.

"Mr. Trump, I believe I can advise you on your campaign."
"Thanks, but I have my own people. Have a good day!"
[dialtone]
But, but, but he can't do that! I'm Bill Kristol! I'll...I'll get him for this."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 14, 2020 11:20 AM (19g6/)

63 Dude, we already know about this, what do you think that entire Schiff & Nadler Super Impeachment Power Hour we went through was all about? Rudy has been saying he received information, Barr has said the DOJ got information from Rudy - and so what?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (hLRSq)

This nuuz was so important that some site sent out a alert. Kinda surprised me because I thought this was common knowledge. Then again, msm, thing.

Posted by: CornPop's Pop aka Pop CornPop at February 14, 2020 11:21 AM (/LQkF)

64 Hurrah for our paychecks! Do as we say or we won't get paid!

Posted by: Nevertrumper boatcrew at February 14, 2020 11:21 AM (e284m)

65 THINGS NEVERTRUMPERS SAY

Funny. Accurate. And sad. All at once.

Nicely done, Gorilla Pundit!

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:21 AM (77WPm)

66 THINGS NEVERTRUMPERS SAY



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"Why BOTH SIDES are wrong!"

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:22 AM (WqPYg)

67 As do I, vmom. I like that he didn't shave all of his chest hair off.

Posted by: no good deed at February 14, 2020 11:22 AM (MmFTx)

68 Who Dis guy photo # Paul Ryan

Posted by: abbynormal at February 14, 2020 11:22 AM (I849g)

69 That's photo #3

Posted by: abbynormal at February 14, 2020 11:22 AM (I849g)

70 The thing about Rudy. " Trump admitted", " to dig up dirt". See, the wording tips it all off, to anyone who is not brain damaged.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (90T4r)

71 Edward Rutherfurd's 'London' is on sale for the kindle for $2.99.

If you like historical fiction, it's very good. It traces the birth and development of the city of London, rather than any one character

https://www.amazon.com/ exec/obidos/ASIN/B005HE5J7I?l ink_id=101361

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (l4C/z)

72 Who Dis :

A cute girl and a guy who doesn't know what a razor is?

Posted by: saf at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (5IHGB)

73 "Why BOTH SIDES are wrong!"
Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:22 AM (WqPYg)

Beck,is that you?

Posted by: A dude in MI at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (/6GbT)

74 Who Dis guy photo # Paul Ryan
Posted by: abbynormal at February 14, 2020 11:22 AM (I849g)


Paul Ryan has stunning eyes.

Posted by: Juan Williams at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (aS1PU)

75 57 Casino Royale is Quality. Everything else starring Daniel Craig should be avoided by Bond fans. And possibly everyone else.

...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)

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*that's from Spectre, for those who haven't watched every damn Bond movie in the last five minutes like me*

Quantum was filmed with essentially an outline and half made up on set, so the poor writing there is clear. I agree there.

But Skyfall is great. It takes the iconography of Bond and inverts it all to tell a story that highlights who he really is. His concern is his duty. He uses the tools of the past to fight for his own future (like the Aston Martin). His past before he was 007 doesn't matter to him ("I always hated this place," he says of his ancestral home), but who he is as an agent is important to him (which is why he bemoans the death of the car).

Bond being screwed over by M and going back to work when she's attacked is great, and works as a wonderful counter to Silva's incessant search for vengeance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (q80AH)

76 And the problem with the Craig films is the writing and Daniel Craig himself.

The writing is terrible in everything after Casino Royale. The franchise has basically been at war with Bond for decades, back to the Timothy Dalton days. They hate the idea of a hard man handing bad guys roughly.

And add the actor to that mix. He's the typical emascualted Brit, despite his gym membership. When the actor hates his character, it's hard to make me care.

Casino Royale is Quality. Everything else starring Daniel Craig should be avoided by Bond fans. And possibly everyone else.

...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)




THIS!! All of this

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (kw5n8)

77 Speaking of Cyd Charisse:

Alan Jay Lerner tells the story of a well-known lyricist - it might have been Yip (The Wizard of Oz) Harburg, but I'm not near my books - who was walking down a street with a friend who challenged him to find a rhyme to the name "Charisse."

Without missing a beat, he responded:

Cyd Charisse!
Up there on the mantlepiece;
You're quite a shock there -
We need a clock there!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing



So Yip Harburg is related to Muldoon?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (nQpdK)

78 >>Trump deeply hurt the rule of law, because he tweeted about a clearly bad DOJ decision.



Right after she ran an impeachment with no due process, and unconstitutional charges.

- - - -

Not endorsing every Trump tweet, but dayum! He is burrowed so deeply in the recesses of their lizard brains he can make them dance with a single tweet. They are mental cases, and it's getting harder for everyone else to pretend that they are somber, serious people who cherish the Constitution and the rule of law.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (bDqIh)

79 Not sure who the trim is but that's Jean Paul Belmondo.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (Yp/pV)

Oh no it ain't.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (jrTqB)


Yeah I looked at the additional pics and thought d'oh. So yeah I got no clue. One thing your pictures do is illustrate how timeless attractiveness is for both sexes.

Patterico didn't make the cut for the NT quotes. Why it's as if nobody cares what that ignorant hack says.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (Yp/pV)

80 This nuuz was so important that some site sent out a alert. Kinda surprised me because I thought this was common knowledge. Then again, msm, thing.

Posted by: CornPop's Pop aka Pop CornPop at February 14, 2020 11:21 AM (/LQkF


Ah, newz-alertz. Clickbait in my opinion, there's nothing any more in it.

Word as a non-Biden.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (hLRSq)

81 Rode down highway 41 through the pre-dawn glades, the fog on my visor mixed with bugs, followed a big white Expedition at 75 yards to keep safe.

Climbed up the 100-step view tower at Everglades City to watch the sunrise over the mangroves, then motored out to the Havana Cafe on Chokoloskee Island for some huevos.

The big RV camp across from the cafe loosed its dog walkers, dozens at a time, most of them looked like pound hounds, no aristocrats like from the Westminster show. The cafe makes terrific coffee and I had three refills.

Less fog on the return trip but still kinda spooky. The boxer engine purrs and growls damped by the plugs in my ears.

Early morning in subtropical SW FL.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (+fPHo)

82 15
I'm not even gonna hazard a guess on the pics.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (s+VTU)

________


Dahj and her identical twin sister from Star Trek: Picard before the transition?

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (WqPYg)

83 The thing about Rudy. " Trump admitted", " to dig up dirt". See, the wording tips it all off, to anyone who is not brain damaged.
Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (90T4r)

Rudy needs to talk less and start delivering the goods. He's been doing a whole lot of big talking but so far we've seen precisely zip zilch and nada as far as delivering on said "big bombshells".

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (77WPm)

84 There's nothing inherently invalid about these different takes, but there was definitely antagonism towards the new takes when they appeared. Hell, Gene Siskel never let anyone be Bond in his mind other than Connery, and his reviews of every other Bond film are boring and predictable because of that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:18 AM (q80AH)

Well, I think there are two kinds of factors. There's the nostalgia to the particular iteration that was your favorite, but there's also the sense that there are certain things you shouldn't change about a character. Some characteristics are accidental, but others are essential. Taken to the extreme, you wouldn't want a Rom Com with James Bond, even if it was the best rom com ever. That's just a wrong kind of story for the character.

Now, not everyone agrees on what those essential characteristics are (I personally wouldn't mind a Bond played by an black actor, but I know others would). That's because I have a different set of essential traits for the character.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:25 AM (KUaJL)

85 I haven't got a clue who the people in the photos are. Another example of getting older and not giving a shit about modern culture. Those examples seem to be happening more often these days.

Posted by: JTB at February 14, 2020 11:25 AM (7EjX1)

86 ^^ Curly " My first WooHoo"

How was it ? Knee trembling and are you going to do it again?..............

Clean Up on aisle #1.

Posted by: saf at February 14, 2020 11:25 AM (5IHGB)

87 "WELCOME TO THE WHITEHOUSE, PRESIDENT AND MR. BOOTYJUICE!"

Posted by: Fritz at February 14, 2020 11:25 AM (2Mnv1)

88 ...squeaked Ben Shapiro on 78rpm.

Posted by: klaftern at February 14, 2020 11:25 AM (RuIsu)

89 The guy looks like Arragon from Lord of the Rings, Viggo Something

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 11:26 AM (mpXpK)

90 As a devil's advocate here, I think when people feel this way what they mean is that they feel lied to or tricked. They thought a Bond movie was going to be a certain kind of thing. What they got was not what they were expecting. Sometimes, that's good, but sometimes it's not. When people's expectations don't match what they're given, they frequently get angry.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020


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Skyfall was not at all what I expected of a Bond film. It was more, and better. Sometimes you get lucky.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:26 AM (Ejm1K)

91 The Mission Impossible movies > Daniel Craig Bond movies

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (G546f)

92 Cuck French of course is defending the hack jury forewoman because of Christian decency or something.

When the hell did men get the idea that acting like the dowager in a Marx Bros movie was appealing to anyone?

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (xjbww)

93 Is Senile Joe still saying Hunter did nothing wrong?
It's not about Hunter, Joe it's about you.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (Uu+Jp)

94 84 Well, I think there are two kinds of factors. There's the nostalgia to the particular iteration that was your favorite, but there's also the sense that there are certain things you shouldn't change about a character. Some characteristics are accidental, but others are essential. Taken to the extreme, you wouldn't want a Rom Com with James Bond, even if it was the best rom com ever. That's just a wrong kind of story for the character.

Now, not everyone agrees on what those essential characteristics are (I personally wouldn't mind a Bond played by an black actor, but I know others would). That's because I have a different set of essential traits for the character.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:25 AM (KUaJL)

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The franchise has gone back and forth about what makes Bond Bond so much over the years, that pinning it down is obviously really hard.

Are the gadgets central? There are several movies where they barely exist.

Are the Bond girls central? There are several movies where they're incidental at best.

Is the Aston Martin central? It doesn't appear until Goldfinger.

Demanding that Bond needs to fit into a specific box feels very weird to me because the franchise has messed with the box so much over the 50+ years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (q80AH)

95 I am proud to say that I have never seen a Handsome Charlie movie.



Posted by: dananjcon at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (u6xw0)

96
Bond being screwed over by M and going back to work when she's attacked is great, and works as a wonderful counter to Silva's incessant search for vengeance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (q80AH)

I didn't like Craig as a Bond or any of the movies he's in. Bond is supposed to be fun and get involved in over the top schemes with hammy villains.

Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (YVvSQ)

97 Daniel Craig always seemed pretty stiff, with little of the charm or suave humor that I would expect from James Bond. His movies are good action movies, but not really good Bond movies.

Posted by: josephistan at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (7HtZB)

98 >>The guy looks like Arragon from Lord of the Rings, Viggo Something


Viggo Johnson. I think he goes by 'The Rock'.

Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (AVP5r)

99 Trump deeply hurt the rule of law, because he tweeted about a clearly bad DOJ decision.

Right after she ran an impeachment with no due process, and unconstitutional charges.

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If there's one thing the Democrats can't abide it's trumped up charges!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (+y/Ru)

100 91 The Mission Impossible movies > Daniel Craig Bond movies
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (G546f)

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Does that include Mission Impossible 2? Cause MI2 is one of the worst big budget action movies ever made.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (q80AH)

101 96
I didn't like Craig as a Bond or any of the movies he's in. Bond is supposed to be fun and get involved in over the top schemes with hammy villains.
Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (YVvSQ)

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Like Timothy Dalton?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (q80AH)

102 37
Daniel Litman - Little Drummer Girl
Nice pick, OM!


Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (bDqIh)

________


I enjoyed that mini-series -- but the wifey didn't.

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:29 AM (WqPYg)

103 I liked Craig in Archangel. Very good movie, IMO.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:29 AM (90T4r)

104 >>...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)

If Bond's co-agent had put that .223 round where it belonged--in Craig's brainpan--this would all be academic and we could go back to loving the Shaw Brothers kung-fu franchise.

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:30 AM (u4/yY)

105 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (arJlL)

106
Outside of Casino Royale the best thing about the Craig Bond movies was Judi Dench dying. Miserable bitch of a character to always remind us how much the film makers hate the character. Bernard Lee's M was that old school type who looked more on Bond as the mischievous pupil but it was never the hate of the Bond character that flowed through Dench's version of the character. I want this new movie to make Hiroshima look like a marshmallow roast

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (kw5n8)

107 Does that include Mission Impossible 2? Cause MI2 is one of the worst big budget action movies ever made.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (q80AH)
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You'l note that the franchise politely ignores that one.

Couple of good, snarky lines from Anthony Hopkins. And the lovely Thandie Newton. Ethan's character is totally unlike the rest of the movies. Weird.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (jW9oF)

108 Rudy needs to talk less and start delivering the goods. He's been doing a whole lot of big talking but so far we've seen precisely zip zilch and nada as far as delivering on said "big bombshells".
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (77WPm)


Thank God it's not just me thinking that. Rudy joins Hannity and DiGenova as irritating yappers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (Yp/pV)

109 But Skyfall is great. It takes the iconography of Bond and inverts it all to tell a story that highlights who he really is. His concern is his duty. He uses the tools of the past to fight for his own future (like the Aston Martin). His past before he was 007 doesn't matter to him ("I always hated this place," he says of his ancestral home), but who he is as an agent is important to him (which is why he bemoans the death of the car).

Bond being screwed over by M and going back to work when she's attacked is great, and works as a wonderful counter to Silva's incessant search for vengeance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (q80AH)

This is symptomatic of the whole problem.
It's deconstruction. Which is at its core, destruction.

I DID like parts of Skyfall, it's competently executed but the theme is the problem. It's all about unmaking Bond. Of 'Subverting our Expectations'. You gotta be very, very careful doing stuff like that. And it wasn't careful, it was deliberate, but it wasn't careful. They took a wrecking ball to Bond and M in Skyfall. And they didn't want to pick up the pieces afterwards.

That wasn't a movie. It was character assassination.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (l4C/z)

110 btw, is there a grinch equivalent to VDay?

Posted by: nurse ratched

Woodpecker Day !

Posted by: JT at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (arJlL)

111 Does that include Mission Impossible 2? Cause MI2 is one of the worst big budget action movies ever made.
Posted by:

MI2 and Casino Royale* are both the exceptions that prove my assertion

(meaning CR was good)

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (G546f)

112 For over the top spy movies... James Colburn in Our Man Flint and Dean Martin as Matt Helm. Parodies of the Bond movies.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (s+VTU)

113 Demanding that Bond needs to fit into a specific box feels very weird to me because the franchise has messed with the box so much over the 50+ years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (q80AH)

I'm not arguing that this is what should happen. But it's what people do when we consume media. We compare it to the things we liked in the past.

I tend to agree that I like different takes on things, but that's not what some people look for.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (KUaJL)

114 107 Does that include Mission Impossible 2? Cause MI2 is one of the worst big budget action movies ever made.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (q80AH)
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You'l note that the franchise politely ignores that one.

Couple of good, snarky lines from Anthony Hopkins. And the lovely Thandie Newton. Ethan's character is totally unlike the rest of the movies. Weird.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (jW9oF)

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John Woo is a hack who has a weird thing for doves, and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (q80AH)

115 I don't get the hatred for Craig as Bond.

. . .


Bond was interesting for those movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:03 AM (q80AH)



I don't think it's hatred of Craig AS Bond, I think it's dislike of Craig himself, who always gives the impression to me of thinking he is better than the role, and that the Franchise is lucky to have picked him instead of any one of 30 other actors who would shine as Bond. I just don't like him personally. He does a great job with the role, however.

Posted by: Sharkman

Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (Hn8E7)

116 Halle Berry and Charlie Sheen?

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (QLPEO)

117 Patterico didn't make the cut for the NT quotes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (Yp/pV)


Who?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (jrTqB)

118 102
37

Daniel Litman - Little Drummer Girl
Nice pick, OM!




Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:16 AM (bDqIh)

________


I enjoyed that mini-series -- but the wifey didn't.


Posted by: ShainS


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Neglected to mention -- that could have had something to do with the perky nipples ubiquitously seen in Ms. Pugh's bra-less tops. ;-)

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:32 AM (WqPYg)

119 >>His past before he was 007 doesn't matter to him ("I always hated this
place," he says of his ancestral home), but who he is as an agent is
important to him (which is why he bemoans the death of the car).


Yeah,
except for that scene in Casino Royale where he and Eva Greene first meet and are
'reading' each other like lil' Sherlock Holmes' and he confirms that her
guess that he grew up in an orphanage, is working class and resents all the rich, elite prep school/Oxford types (or something like that) is correct?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:32 AM (bDqIh)

120 Have no-eyed-deer who either one of Dem is. She's cute, but I drive a truck that's older than her.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 14, 2020 11:32 AM (HaL55)

121 Happy Birthday Cannibal !

Posted by: JT at February 14, 2020 11:32 AM (arJlL)

122 AOC is so dumb she doesn't know when the War of 1812 started.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:32 AM (+y/Ru)

123 The female Whos Dis is a trick question. It's a different female in every pic. Though what's odd is they all have the same pair of lips.
Full kissable lips. Mmmmm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (q1Pj5)

124 I loathe Daniel Craig. He's fine as Bond. But I just can't even with that fucking guy.

Douche syndrome.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (QLPEO)

125 45 Free Never Trumpers! Free Mumai! Free 20 Oz. Dew!

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Free Beer Fridays!

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (7ZQe3)

126 109
This is symptomatic of the whole problem.
It's deconstruction. Which is at its core, destruction.

I DID like parts of Skyfall, it's competently executed but the theme is the problem. It's all about unmaking Bond. Of 'Subverting our Expectations'. You gotta be very, very careful doing stuff like that. And it wasn't careful, it was deliberate, but it wasn't careful. They took a wrecking ball to Bond and M in Skyfall. And they didn't want to pick up the pieces afterwards.

That wasn't a movie. It was character assassination.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (l4C/z)

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I think it's obvious that Mendes has a great love of the character, and this was an exploration of who Bond really was.

I don't see it as a deconstruction of the character, but a deconstruction of the formula around the character.

Bond is very much Bond throughout Skyfall. He ends the movie, taking his first new order from the new M (I love Ray Feinnes as the new M), and he's very much the spy people came to expect at that moment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (q80AH)

127
...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)




THIS!! All of this
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (kw5n

Seems to me that if you landed a 9 mm bullet in the blades of the turboshaft engine, it would stop very quickly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (LxWV7)

128 Trump is doing extraordinarily well considering he is up against the opposition party, the deep state and his own party. Superhuman almost.

I bet they all thought a year at the most and he will be ousted. Now that it looks like he may win a second term the Dems are panicking, not because they have crazy candidates but because they are up against an actual American.

Obama was just as crazy as Bernie and Warren et al but he was not against a candidate who wanted to win in 2008 or 2012. The only opposition he had was Palin who had to be destroyed to let him win.

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (xarPm)

129 101 96
I didn't like Craig as a Bond or any of the movies he's in. Bond is supposed to be fun and get involved in over the top schemes with hammy villains.
Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (YVvSQ)

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Like Timothy Dalton?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (q80AH)

I may have somehow missed his two movies, or going by the plot summary on wikipedia disliked them enough to forget them(as I've largely done with Craig's movies). I would say the fun Bond movies have is what separates them from something like the Bourne series(which has its own merits but is a different sort of afent/action movie).

Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (YVvSQ)

130 John Woo is a hack who has a weird thing for doves, and no one will ever convince me otherwise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (q80AH)
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He certainly has complete disdain for the laws of physics.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (jW9oF)

131 With wimminz, morons, whatcha look at first when they walk up to you?

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:34 AM (90T4r)

132 Not a fan of that particular facial look on the girl.

It reminds me of one of my stupid Deep thoughts though about how just very minor differences of facial features can make a person beautiful or ugly. Differences humans can discern with other humans but a chimp looks like a chimp. We don't judge whether it's a good looking chimp or not. Do they?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 14, 2020 11:34 AM (Uytaa)

133 AOC is so dumb she doesn't know when the War of 1812 started.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:32 AM (+y/Ru)

Or who is buried in Grant's tomb.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 14, 2020 11:34 AM (9Om/r)

134 The female Whos Dis is a trick question. It's a different female in every pic. Though what's odd is they all have the same pair of lips.
Full kissable lips. Mmmmm.
Posted by: Count de Monet


Yes. I want to lick her face.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (QLPEO)

135 I never get tired of the image of the NeverTrumpers as a Human Centipede that is also a Mobius Strip.

Bill Kristol behind Pierre Omidyar, with Jonah Goldberg behind Bill. Chris Hayes behind Jonah, Max Boot behind Chris, Brett Stephens behind Max, and Saint David French pulling up the rear, but also firmly in from of Pierre.

Shit rolls in a circle, perpetually, contrary to the old adage about gravity.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (Hn8E7)

136 113 Demanding that Bond needs to fit into a specific box feels very weird to me because the franchise has messed with the box so much over the 50+ years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:27 AM (q80AH)

I'm not arguing that this is what should happen. But it's what people do when we consume media. We compare it to the things we liked in the past.

I tend to agree that I like different takes on things, but that's not what some people look for.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2020 11:31 AM (KUaJL)

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I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to expand on your point, I hope.

For something that's existed for so long and passed through so many hands and been so many things, I think it just becomes harder to really pin it down what it actually is. I think most people who try have a specific Bond or movie that they point at and say, "That's the right take. Everything else is lesser."

That could be Connery, Goldfinger, Moore, or Goldeneye, or hell, even Diamonds are Forever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (q80AH)

137 -
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She sold 8216 books 132,116 times for a quick $859,960.

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Oh, shit. They're onto us.

Posted by: College Book Stores at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (pMGkg)

138 Early morning in subtropical SW FL.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (+fPHo)

Nice vignette. Do these more often, please.

Posted by: troyriser at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (E2EAq)

139 Early morning in subtropical SW FL.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (+fPHo)

You paint an interesting word picture there. Thanks for sharing it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (LxWV7)

140 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

Spectre, on the other hand, was a train-wreck into a dumpster fire.

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (77WPm)

141 ...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)



Pfft! I brought one down with a car.

Posted by: John McClane at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (q1Pj5)

142 Thirst!

and Happy VD everyone!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (2nuaB)

143 Daniel Craig always seemed pretty stiff, with little of the charm or suave humor that I would expect from James Bond. His movies are good action movies, but not really good Bond movies.
Posted by: josephistan at February 14, 2020


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Well, see, I came to Bond first through Ian Fleming's books when I was 9. My mother handed me Doctor No to read the "venomous centipede crawling on Bond's naked body in bed" scene. I was hooked after that.

I'm used to my Bond being more serious, or at least not comic. Yes, Fleming's villains were over-the-top, but that was the fun of it. He carefully grounded Bond in a world very much like ours, car names and watches and all, except for those villains (and the girls, somewhat), and made Bond a man who felt fear and got himself physically damaged as part of his job.

So to me, Roger Moore's Bond generally, and the glimpses I've had of Pierce Brosnan's, aren't *right*. Connery, Dalton, Lazenby (because of the very good script he's in), and Craig are.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (Ejm1K)

144 There is only one Bond movie, Casino Royale, and only one Bond, us.

Posted by: Woody A. & David N. at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (qHjDO)

145 131 With wimminz, morons, whatcha look at first when they walk up to you?
Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:34 AM

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Their...um...personality?

Posted by: socalcon at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (Roy2Z)

146 Casino Royale was very good, closer to the books, which made the subsequent movies look worse by comparison. I did like Skyfall, as an example of Bond going back to the very basics, like resorting to a knife instead of some Q contraption, but it didn't completely fill in all of the holes that it created in the character, which hurt the story.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2020 11:37 AM (YslsA)

147 139 Early morning in subtropical SW FL.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (+fPHo)

You paint an interesting word picture there. Thanks for sharing it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2020 11:35 AM (LxWV7)

He needs to throw in a Burmese Python though. For authenticity.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:37 AM (90T4r)

148 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

Spectre, on the other hand, was a train-wreck into a dumpster fire.
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (77WPm)
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Got your back on all of that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 11:37 AM (jW9oF)

149 140 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

Spectre, on the other hand, was a train-wreck into a dumpster fire.
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (77WPm)

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I get some of the hatred around Spectre.

It's slower. The personal connection between Bond and Blofeld isn't the best thing (though I love Blofeld's plan around that).

But it's handsomely produced with quality action and a plot that once again touches on topical things (surveillance and Five Eyes) from a point of view that I agree.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (q80AH)

150 >>With wimminz, morons, whatcha look at first when they walk up to you?


Their hot friend.

Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (AVP5r)

151 Paul Ryan has stunning eyes.

Posted by: Juan Williams at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (aS1PU)

_________


Love the sock-puppeteers here.

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (WqPYg)

152 144 There is only one Bond movie, Casino Royale, and only one Bond, us.
Posted by: Woody A. & David N. at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM
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Peter S. ?

Posted by: socalcon at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (Roy2Z)

153 Ohhhhhh, James, she moaned breathlessly.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (q1Pj5)

154 Jim Acosta, dumber than you've ever seen him before.

https://bit.ly/38ueb8u

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)

155 143 So to me, Roger Moore's Bond generally, and the glimpses I've had of Pierce Brosnan's, aren't *right*. Connery, Dalton, Lazenby (because of the very good script he's in), and Craig are.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (Ejm1K)

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I've tried to come up with pithy little ways to describe the Bonds. They are:

Connery: The predator
Lazenby: The Innocent
Moore: Lothario
Dalton: Rabid animal
Brosnan: The gentleman
Craig: The weapon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (q80AH)

156 I think it's Craig,the actor

He just looks and feels like low level KGB

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (G546f)

157 Paul Ryan has stunning eyes.

Posted by: Juan Williams at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (aS1PU)

Dey are deh very vindows of de soul!

Posted by: Sockmund Freud at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (ONvIw)

158 I still don't understand where the myth of Biden's electability started. Even as Obama's VP he was a joke, that nobody would assassinate Obama or they would get Biden.

And just think what that says about Paul Ryan who was stunned into incoherence during the VP candidates debate yet the stupid snow billy Palin had no trouble beating Biden in 2008.

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (xarPm)

159 A few years from now commenters will be arguing over who will be the next "Ethan Hunt". Because Hollywood like making endless series and Tom Cruise is 57, so can't keep doing his stunts forever.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (NVYyb)

160 NeverTrumpers are loud, but powerless. They have their media perch - for now - but if Trump gets re-elected I can see them being shown the door.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tickets Available for Bulwark - The Cuck Whisperer at The Outrage Outlet! at February 14, 2020 11:13 AM (hLRSq)


Their usefulness nears its end. Btw, you can feel their power, as evinced in NH with their Biden 'help'.

Fifth, you say? Bartender, bring us another one of those.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (XF4b8)

161 Bond being screwed over by M and going back to work when she's attacked is great, and works as a wonderful counter to Silva's incessant search for vengeance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:23 AM (q80AH)

The part where the grrl power "backup" Dark Spice shoots him by accident in the back was nice too. On the whole I thought the Craig movies are very much a product of their time- like all Bond movies- and a decent attempt to reboot the franchise. Casino Royale was easily the strongest Bond movie in years, and the high point of the Craig era to me. Spectre verged on fan service, but can be forgiven for Christoph Waltz, an evil drone in charge of GCHQ, and for writing a definitive end to the Craig saga.

The upcoming movie is going to be legendarily awful, though.

Posted by: trev006 at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (Eqkqm)

162 141 ...fucking shooting a helicopter down with a PPK...fuck you...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (l4C/z)



Pfft! I brought one down with a car.

Posted by: John McClane at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (q1Pj5)

That's not possible. You only appeared in one movie

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (l4C/z)

163 (Edited script)
"It's...it's Bond! He's on the train, fighting the villain!"
"Take the shot."
"I can't, he's...don't have a clear..."
"Take the shot!"
"But..."
"TAKE THE SHOT!"
(BAM)
"He's...his head is gone."
(dead air, cue theme song, fade to black, roll credits)

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:41 AM (u4/yY)

164 Obama was just as crazy as Bernie and Warren et al
but he was not against a candidate who wanted to win in 2008 or 2012.
The only opposition he had was Palin who had to be destroyed to let him
win.

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 11:33 AM (xarPm)


Bernie is a goofy old dyed in the wool communist, but he is up front about it. Warren is a bat shit crazy aging hippy. no hiding that.
Obama....he was a frigging. A closet marxist muslim, a cancer that tried to rot the country from within. A jihadist suicide bomber on his run to the destroy the US. He is the clear worst of the 3.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 14, 2020 11:41 AM (9Om/r)

165 Like Timothy Dalton?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:28 AM (q80AH)

I may have somehow missed his two movies, or going by the plot summary on wikipedia disliked them enough to forget them(as I've largely done with Craig's movies). I would say the fun Bond movies have is what separates them from something like the Bourne series(which has its own merits but is a different sort of afent/action movie).
Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020


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Living Daylights, the first Dalton, starts with a short story idea Fleming published late in his life, where Bond is assigned to be a sniper and pick off an East German or Russian agent before he, the agent, can kill a defector. The film followed that to start, but then turned it on its head, and the story grew into a tale of the kind of disinformation games real intelligence services run on each other.

Haven't seen the second; I think it has Bond setting out to avenge the maiming of Felix Leiter by a drug kingpin or something. And of course the maiming of Leiter, by a shark, was part of Fleming's work too.

Dalton was so much better than what Moore's Bond had grown into that I liked the first film a lot.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:41 AM (Ejm1K)

166 I binge-watched all 6 of the Mission Impossible movies about a month ago.

The first three were just meh, I thought. Enough with the masks, already!!!!

Ghost Protocol was great, and Rogue Nation and Fallout were very good despite how incredibly annoying Sean Harris is as the villain in the last two.

[Note: This analysis may have been affected by Sharkman's irrational love for Rebecca Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby]

Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (Hn8E7)

167 It's slower. The personal connection between Bond and Blofeld isn't the best thing (though I love Blofeld's plan around that).

But it's handsomely produced with quality action and a plot that once again touches on topical things (surveillance and Five Eyes) from a point of view that I agree.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (q80AH)

To each his own, obviously. I thought the whole Bond/Blowfeld connection was shockingly stupid and honestly couldn't get past that.

I suppose also I'm spoiled by modern sensitivities regarding "production quality" in that Spectre to me was more-or-less what I expect from a modern, mega-release production.

For me, either of the Kingsmen movies is dramatically better.

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (77WPm)

168 Removing Daniel Craig's head would be an improvement.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (QLPEO)

169 158 I still don't understand where the myth of Biden's electability started. Even as Obama's VP he was a joke, that nobody would assassinate Obama or they would get Biden.

Somebody (probably the DNC) did a poll a year or two ago that showed Biden was more popular in the midwest than any of the other likely Dem candidate, and that's how it started.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

170 Hey, "eleven," don't you mean lick her faces?
No, not faeces, silly.

The female Whos Dis is a trick question. It's a different female in every pic. Though what's odd is they all have the same pair of lips.
Full kissable lips. Mmmmm.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Yes. I want to lick her face.

Posted by: Marooned at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (yYptV)

171 149 140 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

You want to be ridiculed? Say you like Moonraker....I do

Posted by: It's me donna at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (6XlcD)

172 165 Living Daylights, the first Dalton, starts with a short story idea Fleming published late in his life, where Bond is assigned to be a sniper and pick off an East German or Russian agent before he, the agent, can kill a defector. The film followed that to start, but then turned it on its head, and the story grew into a tale of the kind of disinformation games real intelligence services run on each other.

Haven't seen the second; I think it has Bond setting out to avenge the maiming of Felix Leiter by a drug kingpin or something. And of course the maiming of Leiter, by a shark, was part of Fleming's work too.

Dalton was so much better than what Moore's Bond had grown into that I liked the first film a lot.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:41 AM (Ejm1K)

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My only problem with The Living Daylights is the shoehorning in of Afghanistan as the final act.

Up until that point, it's almost Bond in a John le Carre novel, and it works really well. If just felt like they tried to get as much of the real Cold War into a single movie with that sudden turn to Afghanistan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (q80AH)

173 off sock!

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (aS1PU)

174 I sort of think we give to much air time to the NeverTrumpers.

It reminds me of pro-life Democrats. Yes, they are there, but they are essentially ignored. I would argue NeverTrump Republicans are a FAR smaller group.

Every poll I've seen shows basically the most unified Republican party in history. There are like a dozen of these people in the Beltway and I feel we get baited into a constant debate with them that only gives them a larger platform than they deserve.

Posted by: Blago at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (sjTfF)

175 NY DMV license system just collapsed under the weight of all the illegal immigrants registering for licenses.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (rLZe7)

176 Best Bond line ever: Secret agent? On who's side? - Sheriff Pepper

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (q1Pj5)

177 Dalton was so much better than what Moore's Bond had grown into that I liked the first film a lot.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:41 AM (Ejm1K)



Agreed. Dalton's first movie was good. His second one was not. I saw it in the theater and feel asleep during the middle of it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (Un9AW)

178 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)

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He will keep doing this, because his smug self importance is not defeated by smacking hard into the wall of reality.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (NVYyb)

179 No one else will say it, so Zod will.
The scene in Goldfinger where Bond is about to be slowly bisected by a laser would've been improved immensely if we'd watched Bond be slowly bisected by a laser.

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

180 171 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

You want to be ridiculed? Say you like Moonraker....I do
Posted by: It's me donna at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (6XlcD)

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Moonraker is a perfectly average Bond movie for the first half. And then it gets weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (q80AH)

181 Craig: The weapon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020


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Which is very much the way Fleming, or one of his biographers, described Bond: a "blunt instrument of government policy."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (Ejm1K)

182 Moonraker is a perfectly average Bond movie for the first half. And then it gets weird


Probably why I like it

Posted by: It's me donna at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (6XlcD)

183 179 No one else will say it, so Zod will.
The scene in Goldfinger where Bond is about to be slowly bisected by a laser would've been improved immensely if we'd watched Bond be slowly bisected by a laser.
Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

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Zod is a big Bond fan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (q80AH)

184 181 Craig: The weapon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020

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Which is very much the way Fleming, or one of his biographers, described Bond: a "blunt instrument of government policy."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (Ejm1K)

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Who's also from a rich background and knows his wines. Not a dirty Scot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (q80AH)

185 Just saw the promo for the new season of Stranger Things. Anyone know when it goes live?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (QzF6i)

186 179 No one else will say it, so Zod will.
The scene in Goldfinger where Bond is about to be slowly bisected by a laser would've been improved immensely if we'd watched Bond be slowly bisected by a laser.
Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

"Do you expect me to talk?"
"No Mister Bond, I expect you to die!"

Hate the movie, absolutely love that exchange.

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (77WPm)

187 Well, any movie produced by people named Albert and Cubby, Broccoli, has to be good.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (90T4r)

188 179 No one else will say it, so Zod will.
The scene in Goldfinger where Bond is about to be slowly bisected by a laser would've been improved immensely if we'd watched Bond be slowly bisected by a laser.
Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

That scene would be better, Goldfinger clearly has no interest in just 'scaring' Bond. He's really going to kill him. But that would also end the movie.

And deny us Pussy Galore.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (l4C/z)

189 Now this is a RANT ... and it's beautiful!

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (hdzef)

190 185 Just saw the promo for the new season of Stranger Things. Anyone know when it goes live?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (QzF6i)

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They're shooting through August, so probably at least a year.

Maybe next spring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:46 AM (q80AH)

191 I think it's Craig,the actor

He just looks and feels like low level KGB
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (G546f)

He is too grim for what people are used to as Bond's character. You can have lethal and serious but where is the verbal dexterity and panache?

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 11:46 AM (xarPm)

192 >>Zod is a big Bond fan. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (q80AH)


"TAKE THE SHOT!"

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:46 AM (ZS9TG)

193 Ohhhhhh, James, she moaned breathlessly.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 14, 2020 11:38 AM (q1Pj5)

I'm sorry...did I sit on you?

Posted by: BignJames at February 14, 2020 11:47 AM (X/Pw5)

194 If just felt like they tried to get as much of the real Cold War into a single movie with that sudden turn to Afghanistan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (q80AH)
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You do get to see Art Malik before he went on to be the entertaingly sociopathic terrorist Aziz in "True Lies".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 11:47 AM (jW9oF)

195 179 Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

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"No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die."

Wrong again Goldfinger.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:47 AM (NVYyb)

196 >>"Do you expect me to talk?"

"No Mister Bond, I expect you to die!"

(Edited script)
"Do you expect me to talk?"
"No. I expect you to sweat. And in about three minutes, I expect you to scream."

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:47 AM (ZS9TG)

197 >>NY DMV license system just collapsed under the weight of all the illegal immigrants registering for licenses.


LOLGF!

May it inconvenience a whole lot of NY residents who are legal citizens of the US (apologies to any NY 'rons and 'ettes affected), just as DHS's suspension of trusted traveler is. There are consequences to being a sanctuary city, and these Lefties need to feel the anger from their own constituents bigly.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (bDqIh)

198 Talking Bond movies is almost like talking Star Wars movies to me. I'm an outsider.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (Uytaa)

199 A cute girl and a guy who doesn't know what a razor is?

Yay! Back to basics at at the Horde Hall!Let wind and heavens hang, but THE FACIAL HAIR.The fate of the nation may come and go; some days we honor The Greatest, and the next morning, Screw All Them Officers, but damn it all
AT LEAST THERE IS ALWAYS FACIAL HAIR
Alas, alack! The country I grew up in is gone forever!
There weren't any leftists until 20 minutes ago, butHEY!! FACIAL HAIR!!

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (8IOEj)

200 Why oh why do I get invested in a Netflix series only to be told I have to wait a year for the next installment?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (QzF6i)

201 194 If just felt like they tried to get as much of the real Cold War into a single movie with that sudden turn to Afghanistan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (q80AH)
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You do get to see Art Malik before he went on to be the entertaingly sociopathic terrorist Aziz in "True Lies".
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 11:47 AM (jW9oF)

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This is true. He's good in the film. He's just another protagonist introduced at the 90 minute mark.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:49 AM (q80AH)

202 159 A few years from now commenters will be arguing over who will be the next "Ethan Hunt". Because Hollywood like making endless series and Tom Cruise is 57, so can't keep doing his stunts forever.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (NVYyb)

The guy hasn't aged a day since Top Gun (must be ridding himself of all those body Thetans) , so he can still play the role of Ethan Hunt for a while, if not do his own stunts.

Posted by: josephistan at February 14, 2020 11:49 AM (7HtZB)

203 Amusing. Der Trumpenfuhrer stirring the "oh my gawd a president talking about things under his purview!!!" pot with a tweet saying he *could* ask his AG to do something in a criminal case.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2020 11:49 AM (El6T/)

204 198 Talking Bond movies is almost like talking Star Wars movies to me. I'm an outsider.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (Uytaa)

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That was me until I started watching them all a few weeks ago.

I don't think I'd seen a single Roger Moore Bond film before that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:49 AM (q80AH)

205 Bond movies that I've never seen ?

*yawns*

*farts*

O Rly ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 14, 2020 11:49 AM (zlgJP)

206 The weirdest part of Goldfinger is Odd Job as golf caddie.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (NVYyb)

207 May it inconvenience a whole lot of NY residents who are legal citizens of the US (apologies to any NY 'rons and 'ettes affected), just as DHS's suspension of trusted traveler is. There are consequences to being a sanctuary city, and these Lefties need to feel the anger from their own constituents bigly.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (bDqIh)

Yep! (and again, with a solemn tip of the cap to NYS 'rons and 'ettes) But it's New York - you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (77WPm)

208 Gabby Hayes had whiskers...Lenin had a beard.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (s+VTU)

209 Yay! Back to basics at at the Horde Hall!Let wind and heavens hang, but THE FACIAL HAIR.The fate of the nation may come and go; some days we honor The Greatest, and the next morning, Screw All Them Officers, but damn it all
AT LEAST THERE IS ALWAYS FACIAL HAIR
Alas, alack! The country I grew up in is gone forever!
There weren't any leftists until 20 minutes ago, butHEY!! FACIAL HAIR!!



ok

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (QLPEO)

210
Starting with the Brosnan movies the film makers hate of the character started to seep into the movies. Oh this brutal misogynistic dinosaur. The character is so awful and out of date in our oh so enlightened age. So add Judi Dench to put him in his place and make the character a truly boring

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (Un9AW)

211 The best Bond is and always has been Sean Connery. But I really didn't like the movies after reading the books.

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (mpXpK)

212 206 The weirdest part of Goldfinger is Odd Job as golf caddie.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (NVYyb)

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"What club should I use?"

*hands Goldfinger the driver*

"I'm in the sandtrap."

*goes for hat*

"Okay...okay...okay...I'll use the wood."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (q80AH)

213 158 I still don't understand where the myth of Biden's electability started. Even as Obama's VP he was a joke, that nobody would assassinate Obama or they would get Biden.

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You weren't here for the "biteme worries me so much I lit my hair on fire" days of 2016?

You missed some mighty fine eeyeoring there.

Posted by: Rub my legs now! at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (/LQkF)

214 I abhor shiny fabrics.

HATE !!!

Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (rpxSz)

215 I've tried to come up with pithy little ways to describe the Bonds. They are:

Connery: The predator
Lazenby: The Innocent
Moore: Lothario
Dalton: Rabid animal
Brosnan: The gentleman
Craig: The weapon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (q80AH)

Very good, consider it stolen...

Posted by: browndog at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (gD6Ka)

216 191 I think it's Craig,the actor

He just looks and feels like low level KGB
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (G546f)

He is too grim for what people are used to as Bond's character. You can have lethal and serious but where is the verbal dexterity and panache?

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 11:46 AM (xarPm)

Quite possibly. And can an actor who never gives off the impression of being in control of the situation really do an interesting "loss of control and outmaneuvered" movie?

Posted by: Someguy at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (YVvSQ)

217 180 171 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

You want to be ridiculed? Say you like Moonraker....I do
Posted by: It's me donna at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (6XlcD)

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Moonraker is a perfectly average Bond movie for the first half. And then it gets weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (q80AH)

Someone say Moonraper?

Posted by: The Otters at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (7HtZB)

218 158
I still don't understand where the myth of Biden's electability started.]/b]
Even as Obama's VP he was a joke, that nobody would assassinate Obama
or they would get Biden.



And just think what that says about Paul Ryan who was stunned into
incoherence during the VP candidates debate yet the stupid snow billy
Palin had no trouble beating Biden in 2008.

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 11:40 AM (xarPm)

_______


As I mentioned a few days ago, this is Biden's third run for the POTUS nomination and he's never finished higher than 4th place in any primary.

I'm with you ...

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (WqPYg)

219 [Note: This analysis may have been affected by Sharkman's irrational love for Rebecca Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby]
Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (Hn8E7)


( *notes names for possible future use* )

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (jrTqB)

220 I always go back to the Ian Fleming novels for what I want/expect out of Bond movie.

I don't want a contemporary commentary of CURRENT YEAR morals and mores.

I want the Character. I want this archetype. Archetypes don't change or have character arcs. They are. Conan does not becomes a woke pussy ala Jason Momoa and lecture people on plastic water bottles. Dominic Flandry doesn't stop his stories to give a lecture on the Patriarchy. Superman doesn't start craving cock.

With Bond, I want sex and violence. I want hot chicks, exotic cars and locations and bad guys getting shot.

Give me that, and I'm happy. Fuck around with that formula and I'm not happy. Fuck around with it too much and you don't have James Bond, you have some other movie/character.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (l4C/z)

221 "TAKE THE SHOT!"
Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:46 AM (ZS9TG)


That was my problem with the opening. Later in the movie it is established he heard that command, so why didn't he just drop down when he heard it.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (kUmUV)

222

Which is very much the way Fleming, or one of his biographers, described Bond: a "blunt instrument of government policy."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:44 AM (Ejm1K)

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Who's also from a rich background and knows his wines. Not a dirty Scot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020


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TJM, go find The Authorized Biography of James Bond ca. 1973, by John Pearson (Fleming's first biographer). It purports to be the actual Bond's life as told to Pearson by Bond. It explains a few things we'd always wondered about, like how he came by the Bentley and his knowledge of high-quality life. It features some original missions, which read very much like Fleming's, and ends with a perfect scene. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (Ejm1K)

223 I will have to say the opening action scene in Bond movies were always pretty good.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (Uytaa)

224 210
Starting with the Brosnan movies the film makers hate of the character started to seep into the movies. Oh this brutal misogynistic dinosaur. The character is so awful and out of date in our oh so enlightened age. So add Judi Dench to put him in his place and make the character a truly boring
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 11:50 AM (Un9AW)

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Nah, if they hated him, Bond would have changed in Goldeneye. He would have beaten Trevelyan by softening and becoming a 90s man.

He drifts through that movie as a misogynistic dinosaur and wins the day, proving M wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (q80AH)

225 crap, saved by the closing tag in the nic ...

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (WqPYg)

226
shiny fabric and boobs go together pretty good.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (QLPEO)

227 215 I've tried to come up with pithy little ways to describe the Bonds. They are:

Connery: The predator
Lazenby: The Innocent
Moore: Lothario
Dalton: Rabid animal
Brosnan: The gentleman
Craig: The weapon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:39 AM (q80AH)

Very good, consider it stolen...
Posted by: browndog at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (gD6Ka)

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Thank you.

I'm gonna include it in my James Bond movie post in about a month.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (q80AH)

228 Omg. Ed Henry on Fox just now admitted to having worn Crocs at one time.......and putting charms on them.

Gah!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)

229 I never got into the bond movies. I could not opine about anything bond. Meh?

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (0OmEj)

230 A reboot of Bond set in the early stages of the Cold War would do well. It also will never be made.

The Bond from the books was a hard drinking World War II vet so would be over 100 today.

Role the time line back to a late Fifties early Sixties with modern special effects? You could print money with the movies.

Posted by: Big V at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (y/fJ4)

231 >>That was my problem with the opening. Later in the movie it is
established he heard that command, so why didn't he just drop down when
he heard it.

And also: Moneypenny is a super-duper sniper on the side?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:53 AM (bDqIh)

232
Well, any movie produced by people named Albert and Cubby, Broccoli, has to be good.

Posted by: tubal

Could not agree more, and here is some reality to go with it:
The American superspies (no shit, they really were) who overthrew Mossadegh in Iran in 1953, and put the Shah's dynasty back in power
were name Kermit and Norman.

They had some pretty damn powerful last names, but,
Kerm and Norm.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 11:53 AM (8IOEj)

233 222 TJM, go find The Authorized Biography of James Bond ca. 1973, by John Pearson (Fleming's first biographer). It purports to be the actual Bond's life as told to Pearson by Bond. It explains a few things we'd always wondered about, like how he came by the Bentley and his knowledge of high-quality life. It features some original missions, which read very much like Fleming's, and ends with a perfect scene. Highly recommended.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (Ejm1K)

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I have just added to my Amazon Wish list.

Thanks!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:53 AM (q80AH)

234 Omg. Ed Henry on Fox just now admitted to having worn Crocs at one time.......and putting charms on them.

Gah!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)

What is this "Fox" of which you speak?

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:53 AM (77WPm)

235 228 Omg. Ed Henry on Fox just now admitted to having worn Crocs at one time.......and putting charms on them.

Gah!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)

Geeze, he might as well admit to being a Brony.

Posted by: josephistan at February 14, 2020 11:53 AM (7HtZB)

236 @MrReaganUSA

Ok who photoshopped this? This is genius! Trump needs to grow a beard ASAP.

https://tinyurl.com/t33x4gn

Posted by: Tami at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (cF8AT)

237 Every poll I've seen shows basically the most unified Republican party in history. There are like a dozen of these people in the Beltway and I feel we get baited into a constant debate with them that only gives them a larger platform than they deserve.
Posted by: Blago


Yes. They are a bunch of spoiled children, who have taken themselves out of the Republican party, yet pretend they are still relevant, to get a paycheck. Paycheck Republicans. Not much different than street whores.
Rick Wilson
Jennifer Rubin
Jonah Goldberg
Bill Kristol
Tex Ritter
Tex Ritter?
And that's when I woke up.....

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (vcOmj)

238 Somebody (probably the DNC) did a poll a year or two ago that showed Biden was more popular in the midwest than any of the other likely Dem candidate, and that's how it started.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2020 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)


Agreed - with one minor point. I think that poll(s) thought Obama would come out on day one and endorse / campaign with Biden. Thus, he'd be the front runner AND by extension, more electable than any other candidate.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (Ozpxd)

239 Even massive inconvenience doesn't begin to approach what "sanctuary" state residents should get. Pointless though. Electorates so passive and stupid and without any civic common sense cannot be taught through experience.

The DHS move vs NYS is nice, but almost comically inadequate and years late.

"Sanctuary" is a direct attack on the most fundamental rule of law in the country, and a direct attack on the public security of all states (um, we don't have internal borders). Duh. Many inside the beast are waiting to see if real action will finally be taken.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (El6T/)

240 230 A reboot of Bond set in the early stages of the Cold War would do well. It also will never be made.

The Bond from the books was a hard drinking World War II vet so would be over 100 today.

Role the time line back to a late Fifties early Sixties with modern special effects? You could print money with the movies.
Posted by: Big V at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (y/fJ4)

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Barbara Broccoli has already floated this as a possiblity.

It very well could happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (q80AH)

241 #13

Yes

Posted by: OCBill at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (Ij9pi)

242 As I mentioned a few days ago, this is Biden's third run for the POTUS nomination and he's never finished higher than 4th place in any primary.

I'm with you ...
Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again!


Yeah but!!!! the polls had him beating Trump by 10 points!!
Nationwide!

Huzzah!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (vcOmj)

243 Connery played Bond with 1960s suave and pithy humor.

Moore played Bond with 70s suave and somewhat more lighthearted humor/situations. I suspect Moore the man was fun to be around. He also got the 007/Q battle of wits started.

Dalton, as always, palyed Dalton.

Brosnan brought back an element of physicality to the role and looked good but it was the start of the feminist approach that made Bond effective but outdated. I usually like Dench's acting but I didn't appreciate her preaching. It was bothersome.

Craig brought more angst to the role and it felt like an adventurous soap opera.

After decades as a fan of the franchise, I haven't cared about seeing any of the movies since Casino Royale.

If I'm in a mood for a Bond flick, I put From Russia With Love or Octopussy in the DVD player.

Posted by: JTB at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (7EjX1)

244 God Emperor looks good in a beard.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (QLPEO)

245

The honour of being the first actor to play James Bond fell not on Sean Connery, but on American Barry Nelson, who starred in a live one-hour production of Ian Fleming's Casino Royale.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (aKsyK)

246 another thing I have never done and never will

watch a Bond flick

esp with a pocked face fag midget as Bond

Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (rpxSz)

247 (Edited script)
"You...you shot Bond in the head?"
(a sniffle) "It....I couldn't...too fast..."
M: "We can't have agents in the loose who don't have better shooting skills than that. You've just eliminated the best 007 we have. You're a liability. Put the muzzle in your mouth."
"But..."
"Do it. Take the shot."

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (u4/yY)

248 >>I'm gonna include it in my James Bond movie post in about a month.


Don't forget to include OSS 117, Hubert Bonisseur de La Bath!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

249 And also: Moneypenny is a super-duper sniper on the side?!?
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 11:53 AM (bDqIh)


It obviously is in your best interest to have your time sheets completely filled out and delivered on time.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (kUmUV)

250 The Bond from the books was a hard drinking World War II vet so would be over 100 today.

Role the time line back to a late Fifties early Sixties with modern special effects? You could print money with the movies.
Posted by: Big V at February 14, 2020


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Right; according to Pearson (see my earlier post), Bond was born in 1920. In Germany of all places, while his father, an engineer for Vickers, was stationed there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (Ejm1K)

251 Every poll I've seen shows basically the most unified Republican party in history.
Posted by: Blago at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (sjTfF)


That's what makes us a cult.

Posted by: Emmie at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (87gB3)

252 ...GEOMETRIC LOGIC...



**********

That sounds like circular reasoning.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (m45I2)

253 The absolutely best thing about being an adult is ice cream cake for breakfast.

And if I pay enough attention, listen to her stories about her friends, wash the dishes, take out the garbage, watch at least one episode about a bunch of people detailing every minute detail of their feelings on the tevelevison, I get to touch boobies

Posted by: Married life at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (Pgcou)

254 Nah, if they hated him, Bond would have changed in Goldeneye. He would have beaten Trevelyan by softening and becoming a 90s man. 

He drifts through that movie as a misogynistic dinosaur and wins the day, proving M wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (q80AH)

And she in turn plays a stern but flexible section chief for the rest of the series. The producers clearly thought they needed to go bigger and crazier with North Korean laser nonsense, which is weird because by the end of the Brosnan era a British spy fucking up terrorists would have been enormously popular. You wouldn't even have to be super jingoistic about it: True Lies would have been an acceptable level of terror hunting.

All that money just left on the table. Makes you cry.

Posted by: trev006 at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (Eqkqm)

255 TJM, go find The Authorized Biography of James Bond ca. 1973, by John Pearson (Fleming's first biographer). It purports to be the actual Bond's life as told to Pearson by Bond. It explains a few things we'd always wondered about, like how he came by the Bentley and his knowledge of high-quality life. It features some original missions, which read very much like Fleming's, and ends with a perfect scene. Highly recommended.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (Ejm1K)

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I have just added to my Amazon Wish list.

Thanks!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020


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You'll love it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:56 AM (Ejm1K)

256 148 Pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Casino Royale and Skyfall.

Spectre, on the other hand, was a train-wreck into a dumpster fire.
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:36 AM (77WPm)
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Got your back on all of that.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn.

me too.
I think Daniel Craig was a good Bond. And I found him sexy in a rough kind of way.


and JT, you better look out, mister... pew pew pew!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (d7Ww2)

257 I didn't much like GoldenEye, but the beginning sequence was pretty awesome.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (NVYyb)

258
The honour of being the first actor to play James Bond fell not on Sean Connery, but on American Barry Nelson, who starred in a live one-hour production of Ian Fleming's Casino Royale.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

And David Niven played James Bond in the first film version of Casino Royale. They played it for laughs, then

I think Woody Allen and Peter Sellers were in it too. Really campy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (vcOmj)

259 I don't know who the heck Florence Pugh is but she has a very unfortunate name to grow up with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (KZzsI)

260 Craig is the only good Bond and Casino Royale is the only good Bond movie.

Skyfall undid the Royale mythology. Vesper sizes Bond up and says "Saville Row, but you wear it with such disdain. You must have relied on someone else's money, so you're likely an orphan".

Thirty years later it turns out he has a castle in Scotland that he just hasn't bothered to visit but his own personal Hagrid has been tending to it the whole time.

Fail.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (wzVKm)

261 257 I didn't much like GoldenEye, but the beginning sequence was pretty awesome.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (NVYyb)

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I love that movie in general, but it's the opening (and credits) that are the movie's height, for sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (q80AH)

262 So, given that we've spent about 200-comments talking about the nuances of James Bond movies over the years, isn't it pretty obvious that literally nobody wants to talk about NeverTrumpers?

Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (77WPm)

263 This much is true: Le Chiffre's girlfriend looks like a dirty, dirty girl...

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:58 AM (ZS9TG)

264 190 185 Just saw the promo for the new season of Stranger Things. Anyone know when it goes live?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (QzF6i)

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They're shooting through August, so probably at least a year.

Maybe next spring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:46 AM (q80AH)


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"According to TV Line, filming will wrap sometime around August with a potential December 2020/January 2021 release date on the cards."

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 14, 2020 11:58 AM (WqPYg)

265 Do these pink Crocs make my ass look big?

Posted by: Eddie Henry at February 14, 2020 11:58 AM (pw+jk)

266 "174 I sort of think we give to much air time to the NeverTrumpers.

It reminds me of pro-life Democrats. Yes, they are there, but they are essentially ignored. I would argue NeverTrump Republicans are a FAR smaller group.

Every poll I've seen shows basically the most unified Republican party in history. There are like a dozen of these people in the Beltway and I feel we get baited into a constant debate with them that only gives them a larger platform than they deserve.

Posted by: Blago at February 14, 2020 11:43 AM (sjTfF) "



Yeah, this.
Let 'em die forgotten.

Except for how Dear Ewok needs controversy to keep this thing afloat, and that is arguably a Greater Good being served.
And it's fun making mock of those self-inflated stuffed shirts, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 14, 2020 11:58 AM (zlgJP)

267 We just re-watched "The Road to Perdition". Craig was creepy as hell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2020 11:58 AM (ptqGC)

268 The honour of being the first actor to play James Bond fell not on Sean Connery, but on American Barry Nelson, who starred in a live one-hour production of Ian Fleming's Casino Royale.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 14, 2020


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On, appropriately, the TV series Climax!. They made him an American agent, called him "Jimmy" Bond, and cast Peter Lorre as Le Chiffre.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:59 AM (Ejm1K)

269 GEOMETRIC LOGIC...



**********

That sounds like circular reasoning.
Posted by: Muldoon


So where did the strawberries actually end up?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 11:59 AM (vcOmj)

270 Role the time line back to a late Fifties early Sixties with modern special effects? You could print money with the movies.

That is exactly what I would do with the franchise. And I'd reboot the whole damn thing to start over closer to the books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 14, 2020 11:59 AM (KZzsI)

271 >>262
So, given that we've spent about 200-comments talking about the nuances
of James Bond movies over the years, isn't it pretty obvious that
literally nobody wants to talk about NeverTrumpers? Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (77WPm)

Zod likes the scene where Bond finds footage on a thumb drive of Silva having sex with Bill Kristol's mouth, and delivers the classic Bond line.

"Who's talking now."

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 11:59 AM (u4/yY)

272 Stranfer Things is about the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

That fat lisping kid from the FIOS commercials should be euthanized.

Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2020 11:59 AM (AVP5r)

273 Speaking of spies I watched an episode of Winston Churchill's Secret Agents last night.
It's actually a reality show, in which a bunch of ordinary people undergo at least some of the training British special operations agents underwent in WWII.
I refer to handling guns and fighting dirty.
Fairly interesting.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2020 11:59 AM (Uu+Jp)

274 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?

Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)

275 So, given that we've spent about 200-comments talking about the nuances of James Bond movies over the years, isn't it pretty obvious that literally nobody wants to talk about NeverTrumpers?
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (77WPm)
Never say nevertrumper again.

Posted by: Howz zat fer a movie title? at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (/LQkF)

276 There are several reasons that NT's came into existence.

A) Corporate sponsorship--corporations want cheap labor, no outsourcing limitations, protected graft schemes, and 'free trade'
These folks are pure pay to play. You see these folks working at the 'think tanks' or 'institutes' that put out whatever supporting op-eds, reports, and other propaganda placements to support their interests. A lot come by way of short stints in administrative agencies and congressional staffers where they develop relationships with corporate donors and politicos on Capitol Hill or senior adminstrative appointee types. The goal is to eventually become a lobbyist for the swanky K Street crowd.

B) Some NT'ers are obsessed with open borders and globalization using military force as needed to augment their plans--these are the invade the world, invite the world types.

This variant of neo-conservative thought argues nonsense like poor Hispanics are natural conservatives so we should import all the poor from Latin America, that U.S. style democracy can be exported to other countries by economic sanctions and force, that only by the military force making other countries democracies, can democracy flourish.

These are the folks that scream racism when travel bans from troubled countries are mentioned, support undermining the rule of law regarding illegal immigration via amnesties and the like, or argue for intervening in places like Libya and Syria that do not pose any strategic threat to the U.S. Much of this intellectual claptrap comes from the Trotskyite origins of neo conservatives which is a form of utopianism. It is a degraded idea of a World Revolution for Democracy that excites and motivates these folks.

C) People who are actually Democrats in thought and deed but find the career ladder much easier to climb in allegedly conservative publications and media. These grifters can be recognized as repeatedly trying to argue the conservative case for . . . . which is the latest leftist hare brained scheme or candidate. What these folks want desperately is to be viewed as somebody in the leftist mainstream intellectual world. These folks often attack people like the Tea Partiers or Trump supporters in the most vicious and vitriolic terms because they believe it will be rewarded eventually by recognition and perhaps personal advancement.

D) The tone police and heritage type Republicans best characterized as Northeast Republicans and their diaspora to other states such as California. The unmentioned truth about the Republican party is that it was founded on progressive and universalistic sentiments. Democrats have always been unapologetic about politics being who gets what from whom. Republicans, not so much possibly because of its association with the protestant religion in its origin.

The pre-New Deal past of the Republican party was idealized for many as American exceptionalism and a disdain for the lower working classes. The policy minded progressives went to the Democrat party in the 1930's while the tone police types left resorted to class snobbery, internationalism, and vapid pronouncements of principles, that have little to nothing to do with day to day concerns of most. These are the folks that support all sorts of Democratic social policies as virtuous but are economic conservatives on things like tax policy, labor policy, and investment regulation. The old term country club Republican reflects this class.

The latest craptastic ideal of these folks is to support idiotic notions of cap and trade which coincidentally punish energy producers and consumers but benefit the investments and regulatory crowd. Thus, they embrace the vapid idea of saving the world from climate change (or whatever the term du jour is) despite America's declining green house gas emissions.

Trump's coalition, directly or indirectly, threatens all of these groups by forcing them to the outer fringes of the party due to their relatively paltry numbers. These are the folks that would be upset with pragmatic policies that value things like American citizenship, low unemployment, bringing the military back home, enforcing the borders, boosting energy production, etc. None of them get any specific feel-good emotional stimulus. Nor do they directly get much specific economic benefits from these policies that the average citizen won't get.

Posted by: whig at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (EUDB2)

277 A reboot of Bond set in the early stages of the Cold War would do well. It also will never be made.

The Bond from the books was a hard drinking World War II vet so would be over 100 today.

Role the time line back to a late Fifties early Sixties with modern special effects? You could print money with the movies.
Posted by: Big V at February 14, 2020


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I for one would love to see them try this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (Ejm1K)

278 Is that criminal Smollet whining again? He must think he's auditioning for a reboot of "The Outlaw Jussie Wails"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (m45I2)

279 Barbara Broccoli has already floated this as a possiblity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 11:54 AM (q80AH)


Not if Cathy Cauliflower buys the rights first.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (jrTqB)

280 Whoa, Trump does look good with a beard.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (bDqIh)

281 I'm just this far from being in the top three. That's electabilty baby.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (pw+jk)

282 They had some pretty damn powerful last names, but,
Kerm and Norm.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver


Kermit Roosevelt. Teddy's youngest son, I think.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (vcOmj)

283 The Bond from the books was a hard drinking World War II vet so would be over 100 today.

Role the time line back to a late Fifties early Sixties with modern special effects? You could print money with the movies.
Posted by: Big V at February 14, 2020 11:52 AM (y/fJ4)

^^^this^^^

Also there is room for a film or two to showcase Bond's WWII exploits. In one of the novels, mention is made of him assassinating a Japanese cryptographer (?) in New York City by shooting him with a rifle through a hole in the glass of a skyscraper made by another agent with a rifle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (LxWV7)

284 Oh and it made me think one should never go out in public wearing a MAGA hat without learning to fight dirty first.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (Uu+Jp)

285 274 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?
Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)


Which end you figuring points towards the wife?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 14, 2020 12:01 PM (kUmUV)

286 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?

1. Heritage Rough Rider Revolver.
2. Colt M1911-22

Both are good.

2 will cost about three times as 1

Posted by: Guns-Guns-Gunz! at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (/LQkF)

287 Speaking of spies I watched an episode of Winston Churchill's Secret Agents last night.

Its a good show, other than the tiny little cute girl who somehow manages to make it through all the training without being cut because cute. She'd break a forearm trying to choke out a guard.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (KZzsI)

288 Where are y'all seeing Trump with a beard?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (ptqGC)

289 Question to the Horde: would Bond be popular here in the USA if Saint JFK hadn't told his Tiger Beat unfree presstitutes, who went SQUEEEE like Beatlemania teenaged girls, that he liked Fleming's books?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (Yp/pV)

290 Posted by: whig at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (EUDB2)
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That's a lot of words. You must be correct.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (pw+jk)

291 And David Niven played James Bond in the first film version of Casino Royale. They played it for laughs, then

I think Woody Allen and Peter Sellers were in it too. Really campy.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (vcOmj)
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That was a train-wreck production. Seven(?) different directors, constant rewrites, Peter Sellers quit in the middle of shooting because he wanted to play a serious character when he'd been hired to be funny... I can only imagine the agony the editors went through.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (jW9oF)

292 I love how fully-realized the Zod versions of reality is.

I don't know if I'd want to live there, but I do love the world building.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 12:03 PM (l4C/z)

293 >>Where are y'all seeing Trump with a beard?
a photoshop (remove spaces)

https://twitter.com/MrReaganUSA/status

/1228170613925109761

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 12:03 PM (bDqIh)

294 211 The best Bond is and always has been Sean Connery. But I really didn't like the movies after reading the books.
Posted by: Vic



The only thing in common between the book and the movie "The Spy Who Loved Me" is the title. The plots are even in the same dimension. Ok, the book and the movie both had James Bond in it but that's where it ends. I liked them both. Recommend the book. It's very good and a fairly quick read (not too long).

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 14, 2020 12:03 PM (vN4+Q)

295
Trump's coalition, directly or indirectly, threatens all of these groups by forcing them to the outer fringes of the party due to their relatively paltry numbers. These are the folks that would be upset with pragmatic policies that value things like American citizenship, low unemployment, bringing the military back home, enforcing the borders, boosting energy production, etc. None of them get any specific feel-good emotional stimulus. Nor do they directly get much specific economic benefits from these policies that the average citizen won't get.
Posted by: whig at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (EUDB2)


Incredible summary. Thank you.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 14, 2020 12:03 PM (TdMsT)

296 Ivana Milicevic as Valenka, Le Chiffre's squeeze.

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 12:03 PM (u4/yY)

297 Speaking of spies I watched an episode of Winston Churchill's Secret Agents last night.

Its a good show, other than the tiny little cute girl who somehow manages to make it through all the training without being cut because cute. She'd break a forearm trying to choke out a guard.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (KZzsI)

She is tiny.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2020 12:03 PM (Uu+Jp)

298 Patterico didn't make the cut for the NT quotes. Why it's as if nobody cares what that ignorant hack says.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 11:24 AM (Yp/pV)

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His Never Trumpism really surprised me as none of the others did. The blatherers on ABCCNNBCBS always had that vibe of sneering at conservative voters whilst I thought Patterico was one of us.

Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 12:04 PM (xarPm)

299 274 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?
Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)

What do you/she have already?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 12:04 PM (l4C/z)

300 We just re-watched "The Road to Perdition". Craig was creepy as hell.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2020 11:58 AM (ptqGC

I liked that movie. You are right, Craig played that character very well if they were going for creepy. Jude Law was semi creepy too.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 14, 2020 12:04 PM (Uytaa)

301 ...James Bond movies over the years, isn't it pretty obvious that literally nobody wants to talk about NeverTrumpers?

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"No, Mr. Kristol. I expect you to diet!"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 14, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)

302 Smith & Wesson M&P-22. Nice little light semi patterned on their M&P series. Very reliable/easy to shoot. Ruger's got one similar, even smaller if her hands are small.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2020 12:04 PM (El6T/)

303 The DHS move vs NYS is nice, but almost comically inadequate and years late.

"Sanctuary" is a direct attack on the most fundamental rule of law in the country, and a direct attack on the public security of all states (um, we don't have internal borders). Duh. Many inside the beast are waiting to see if real action will finally be taken.

Posted by: rhomboid



TheThe Trump Admin needs to immediately sue all the states who have entered into the Interstate National Popular Vote Compact, as well as California and New York, for violating Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, as the Compact and registering illegals to vote dilutes and/or destroys the voting rights of the citizens of those states.

The remedy called for by Section 2 of the 14th Amendment is to reduce the proportional share of those states' representation in Congress. That remedy should catch these assholes' attention.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 14, 2020 12:05 PM (Hn8E7)

304 And David Niven played James Bond in the first film version of Casino Royale. They played it for laughs, then

I think Woody Allen and Peter Sellers were in it too. Really campy.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM (vcOmj)
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That was a train-wreck production. Seven(?) different directors, constant rewrites, Peter Sellers quit in the middle of shooting because he wanted to play a serious character when he'd been hired to be funny... I can only imagine the agony the editors went through.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:02 PM (jW9oF)


Apocalypse Now says hold my beer.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 12:05 PM (Yp/pV)

305 The perfect 2020 ticket . . .

Buttigieg/Blofeld 2020.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2020 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

306 Hubba hubba. Florence is a smoke show.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 14, 2020 12:05 PM (ZghNV)

307 -174- "I sort of think we give to much air time to the NeverTrumpers."



It's not "we" that give them to much attention, it's the media. Mollie Hemingway just wrote a piece on the over saturation of NeverTrump conservatives in the media. That includes FOX News. You're right they only represent a minute fraction of people, yet they get a ton of access to spout their horseshit. It would be nice to ignore them but you can't.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 14, 2020 12:05 PM (4thlk)

308 Bond gun thread.

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 12:06 PM (u4/yY)

309 ace does banner work trashing the NTers, but they don't interest me, so not much to say about them. They're basically just fodder for ace. No influence or importance otherwise. As it should be with 99% of commentators, who rarely have much new, original, or correct to say.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2020 12:06 PM (El6T/)

310 Apocalypse Now says hold my beer.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 12:05 PM (Yp/pV)
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No disagreement, there.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:06 PM (jW9oF)

311 268
On, appropriately, the TV series Climax!. They made him an American agent, called him "Jimmy" Bond, and cast Peter Lorre as Le Chiffre.

there is also a Jimmy Bond in The Lone Gunmen. he shows up in episode 2 and is a regular throughout the series.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (sGtp+)

312 Ace up

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (mpXpK)

313 Speaking of dirty Bond girls, Italian subset, I was a big fan of "Solange Dimitrios" in Casino Royale. Big fan.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (NVYyb)

314 lowandslow, I ignore them easily. But I don't really rely on "media" for much in areas where I have more knowledge understanding and experience than anybody on the idiot box does.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (El6T/)

315 Bond gun thread.
Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 12:06 PM


The longer barreled PP has better lines than the PPK.

Posted by: Carvelle's at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (ejd/p)

316 264 190 185 Just saw the promo for the new season of Stranger Things. Anyone know when it goes live?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 14, 2020 11:45 AM (QzF6i)


Holy crap, they're going to do *more* of that show? ST jumped the shark by Season 2. I couldn't get through the first 20 minutes of the first Season 3 episode. That whole "hey everybody, this is the 80s. Get it? the 1980s!" soundtrack was annoying as hell. It overpowered every scene and it just got on my nerves early and didn't let up.

So, no.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (jrTqB)

317 Off, ice cream cake sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (ejd/p)

318 Speaking of dirty Bond girls, Italian subset, I was a big fan of "Solange Dimitrios" in Casino Royale. Big fan.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (NVYyb)
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Olga Kurylenko. Yum.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (jW9oF)

319 Florence is pretty, but not a lot of girls named "flo" these days. Imagine the teasing she got in school from other girls.

Regarding Bond's guns, I do wonder about the PPK he carries. Its not a very good gun from all accounts but he really liked it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)

320 Putting it all in one place:

Florence Pugh and Daniel Litman in "The Little Drummer Girl"

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (7s3Gx)

321 @Redacted

I've been doing a lot of 22 buying/testing/research for the last few months.

Known good .22 pistols:
Smith and Wesson MYP 22
Ruger MK IV
SIG P250-22
Beretta 92-22
CZ Kadet and Kadet adapter for the CZ 75, P-07
Ruger Single Six
Heritage Rough Rider

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at February 14, 2020 12:09 PM (l4C/z)

322 >>TheThe Trump Admin needs to immediately sue all the states who have
entered into the Interstate National Popular Vote Compact, as well as
California and New York, for violating Section 2 of the 14th Amendment,
as the Compact and registering illegals to vote dilutes and/or destroys
the voting rights of the citizens of those states.



The remedy called for by Section 2 of the 14th Amendment is to
reduce the proportional share of those states' representation in
Congress. That remedy should catch these assholes' attention

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I like the way you think!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2020 12:09 PM (bDqIh)

323 Florence Pugh


*******

If she married Eric Swallwell she'd be Florence Pugh-Swallwell!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 14, 2020 12:09 PM (m45I2)

324 >>As it should be with 99% of commentators, who rarely have much new, original, or correct to say. Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2020 12:06 PM (El6T/)


Bath-salt gorilla cavalry rules of engagement strictly state that using human heads for bolas is a war crime. That said, most cavalrygorillas do so anyway.

This is both new, original, and correct.


Kneel.

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 12:09 PM (u4/yY)

325 The blatherers on ABCCNNBCBS always had that vibe of sneering at conservative voters whilst I thought Patterico was one of us.
Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2020 12:04 PM (xarPm)


He was always a snotty dicknose but hid it a lot better. He'd troll other sites under sock puppet names, including here, but his awkward, borderline retarded, way with words was always a giveaway.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2020 12:09 PM (Yp/pV)

326 285 274 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?
Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)

I LOVE my Ruger Mark IV

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 14, 2020 12:10 PM (d7Ww2)

327 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?
Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)

Ruger Single Six?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2020 12:10 PM (LxWV7)

328 In Fleming's early Bond stories, he has pastiches of young Bond on island watch duty for the Germans to come out of the Kiel canal (this is a stolen scene from the pre-WWI "Riddle of The Sands") and rookie Bond making the second shot at Rockefeller Center that shatters a huge window and then takes out a Japanese cryptographer. Both very cinematic and never in a film plot.


The trouble some of you guys have with Bond is that you're film fans, and are doing film criticism. That hard WWII vet character is totally foreign to you.

Fleming's family was in international investment banking, and in the early years of the 20th century had its own network of confidential agents. Dr No, I'm sure you've heard, is heavily patterned on a little piece of American filibuster history called the Navassa Island affair (you can sail to Navassa in a day from Fleming's Goldeneye cabin). We make a great deal of the notes Fleming must have made during his feature-writing junkets, but there is little mention of the skeletons in his family's own closets he would have known about.

And he knew people. He was friendly with the Dulles brothers, and if they couldn't provinde you with a lifetime of thinly-masked plot material, well, the world's gone dull. Fleming himself may have been responsible for dropping the Red Devils commandos into the middle of a newly-refitted German armored division, in Market Garden. "Oops."

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 12:10 PM (8IOEj)

329 Who's gonna be The Next James Schrader?

Posted by: klaftern at February 14, 2020 12:10 PM (RuIsu)

330 Regarding Bond's guns, I do wonder about the PPK he carries. Its not a very good gun from all accounts but he really liked it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)
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"Walther PPK. Seven point six five millimeter. I know of only three men who use this weapon, and I believe I have killed two of them."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:11 PM (jW9oF)

331 >>The longer barreled PP has better lines than the PPK. Posted by: Carvelle's at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (ejd/p)

Remember those toy guns--they were usually blue plastic--that shot the little yellow rubber balls?
Looked just like a PPK.

Posted by: Zod at February 14, 2020 12:11 PM (u4/yY)

332 318 Speaking of dirty Bond girls, Italian subset, I was a big fan of "Solange Dimitrios" in Casino Royale. Big fan.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (NVYyb)
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Olga Kurylenko. Yum.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (jW9oF)

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Gemma Arterton as Strawberry Fields in Quantum of Solace.

I have a thing for redheads.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 12:11 PM (q80AH)

333 Dirty Harry did for the S&W.44 magnum what Bond did for the Walther PPK .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 14, 2020 12:11 PM (Uytaa)

334 Nah, if they hated him, Bond would have changed in Goldeneye. He would have beaten Trevelyan by softening and becoming a 90s man.

He drifts through that movie as a misogynistic dinosaur and wins the day, proving M wrong.

Posted by:TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Killat February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (q80AH)



Listen to the way M and Moneypenny treat the Bond character starting in the Brosnan movies. M let's you know he is not liked but needed and that only got worse. The new Moneypenny was a humorous shrew. Compared to the Lois Maxwell version who more than held her own against Bond. "Flattery will get you nowhere. But don't stop trying."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2020 12:12 PM (Un9AW)

335 "The Road to Perdition" was very good. The late great Paul Newman was in it. His last film before he died.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 14, 2020 12:12 PM (vN4+Q)

336 276 continued,
Oh and why don't they become Democrats.

It is because a) they will be on the fringes of the Democrat party as new members (see their cold treatment of Capn Billy K. and Maxxie Bootie). They would be at the back of the queue.

If they are the corporate grifting type, the left lane is already occupied to sell the corporate gospel to moderate Dems so the corporate world needs them to punch right for the same globo ideals (cough Heritage, cough, or National Review, cough).

The new crusaders realize that the Dems would just as soon gut the military to feed their clientele and only pay lip service to interventions. Like Obama, the Dems would rather lead from behind on international interventions and subject them to all sorts of UN or regional approvals. Regular Republicans, on the other hand, can be exploited by fears of being attacked either by terrorism or other means. Thus, they have sold Republicans on decades long futile efforts in places like Afghanistan. The only reason Obama cared about it was to shut up criticism from the Republicans. He would have just as soon bribed the Taliban as he did Iran.

The country club Republicans would be ostracized for wealth and their pallor as the Dems already have billionaire donors and don't need them. And the Democrats have made it fully clear that they will raise all sorts of taxes on the country club Republicans if they have power. When you run government as a redistribution agency that always demands more, you gotta pay the bills.

The undercover Dems, will eventually go away if they have no support but will more or less take a hit to rebuild their career advancement if they are of no more use as Quislings to the Dems.

Posted by: whig at February 14, 2020 12:13 PM (EUDB2)

337 >>I still don't understand where the myth of Biden's electability started.

It started with the claim that the only reason Trump was digging around in Ukraine was to get political dirt on his most formidable 2020 opponent, Slow Joe. That was the narrative used to impeach Trump and the media pushed it relentlessly. It doesn't matter if anyone who knows Joe's electoral history knew otherwise, the media had a narrative to make and they did it.

The media still has that power because no matter how fake it is many people still get their news from them either consciously or unconsciously.

Just like many people still believe Rudy has nothing when he has been dropping documentary evidence of corruption in Ukraine for weeks including last night where he once again presented documentary evidence that Hunter Biden was getting paid way more than $1 million per year in Ukraine.

If the media doesn't report it it isn't happening is still a thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2020 12:13 PM (ZLI7S)

338 So, given that we've spent about 200-comments talking about the nuances of James Bond movies over the years, isn't it pretty obvious that literally nobody wants to talk about NeverTrumpers?
Posted by: DocJ at February 14, 2020 11:57 AM


You are far too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 14, 2020 12:13 PM (qHjDO)

339 332 318 Speaking of dirty Bond girls, Italian subset, I was a big fan of "Solange Dimitrios" in Casino Royale. Big fan.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 14, 2020 12:07 PM (NVYyb)
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Olga Kurylenko. Yum.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:08 PM (jW9oF)

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Gemma Arterton as Strawberry Fields in Quantum of Solace.

I have a thing for redheads.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill



Very good picks. I always liked Daniela Bianchi. I like busty blond Italian actresses. I apologize for nothing!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 14, 2020 12:14 PM (vN4+Q)

340 "Its not a very good gun from all accounts but he really liked it."
He detested it. Preferred the .25 Beretta.
"007? Just leave the Beretta." --Major Boothroyd.
Jesus. Book I, Volume 1, page i.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 12:15 PM (8IOEj)

341 199 Yay! Back to basics at at the Horde Hall!Let wind and heavens hang, but THE FACIAL HAIR.The fate of the nation may come and go; some days we honor The Greatest, and the next morning, Screw All Them Officers, but damn it all
AT LEAST THERE IS ALWAYS FACIAL HAIR
Alas, alack! The country I grew up in is gone forever!
There weren't any leftists until 20 minutes ago, butHEY!! FACIAL HAIR!!
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 11:48 AM (8IOEj)

Wut.

Posted by: Allie at February 14, 2020 12:16 PM (UnA8+)

342 And David Niven played James Bond in the first film version of Casino Royale. They played it for laughs, then

I think Woody Allen and Peter Sellers were in it too. Really campy.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative
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For the umpteenth time, I casually mention that my neighbor, Daliah Lavi, was in the movie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at February 14, 2020 12:16 PM (CDGwz)

343 >>> 95 I am proud to say that I have never seen a Handsome Charlie movie.


I liked Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

But the central cleverness behind the novel, albeit a joke, that the author would create a story by patching together favorites from action and romance, the classic favorites that appealed to men and women and then make major bank didn't really transfer to film.

Its's all eye candy for guys. Action, adventure, beautiful women, stuff blowing up, etc..

Posted by: banana Dream at February 14, 2020 12:16 PM (l6b3d)

344 thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?
Posted by: REDACTED at February 14, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)

Ruger Single Six?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Ruger Single Six (with spare .22 mag cylinder)
Ruger 22/45
Browning Buckmark

Stay away from the Glock 44. Serious slide cracking issues. (In a .22lr. WTF Glock?)

Posted by: rickb223 at February 14, 2020 12:17 PM (nQpdK)

345 Also there is room for a film or two to showcase Bond's WWII exploits. In one of the novels, mention is made of him assassinating a Japanese cryptographer (?) in New York City by shooting him with a rifle through a hole in the glass of a skyscraper made by another agent with a rifle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 14, 2020


*
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One of the two jobs that qualified him as a Double-O. Bond describes it in Casino Royale, and his "biographer" Pearson has him tell us some more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 12:17 PM (Ejm1K)

346 290, Jukin, I get them wholesale and make it up in bulk.

Posted by: whig at February 14, 2020 12:17 PM (EUDB2)

347 I don't think it's hatred of Craig AS Bond, I think it's dislike of Craig himself, who always gives the impression to me of thinking he is better than the role, and that the Franchise is lucky to have picked him instead of any one of 30 other actors who would shine as Bond. I just don't like him personally. He does a great job with the role, however.

Posted by: Sharkman


If anyone remembers - when Craig was first announced as Bond, he made an "entrance" skimming along the Thames in a jet-ski. . .

Wearing a lifejacket!

THAT was when you knew neither actor nor producers gave a shit about Bond anymore. Craig should have thrown the thing into the water and dared the cops to arrest him and the Broccolis should have gladly paid the bail.

Fuck Craig and fuck any of this "deconstruction" and "revisiting" shit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020 12:20 PM (Ki5SV)

348 274 ... "thinking about buying a 22 plinker pistolo for the wife

any suggestions ?"

Redacted,
First, take her with you. She has to like the feel and balance of the gun, something you can't predict.

Assuming price matters, look at the Heritage Rough Rider single action revolver or a used Ruger Mk II, a Ruger Mk IV, or Browning Buck Mark.

Posted by: JTB at February 14, 2020 12:20 PM (7EjX1)

349 Nood Durham.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 14, 2020 12:20 PM (jW9oF)

350 Darn. I was really liking the Bond thread, which is what this turned into.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 12:21 PM (Ejm1K)

351 Allie, why, yes. It is all about the facial hair.
As long as one facial hair is still in the world, a moron will make icky-poopy.
And so, every single damn day, FACIAL HAIR.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 12:22 PM (8IOEj)

352 I know you all will agree, I was the superior Blofeld. It's really no competition considering the other...

Did you hear that?
I distinctly heard the sound of a pyooma. Maybe flying? ...No. Flying idiotically.

Posted by: Donald Pleasance at February 14, 2020 12:23 PM (vbuHy)

353 350 Darn. I was really liking the Bond thread, which is what this turned into.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 12:21 PM (Ejm1K)

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February 22nd movie thread will be all Bond.

Or March 14th. I haven't entirely decided which.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 12:23 PM (q80AH)

354 And Live and Let Die, the book, is marvelous and would have made a much better movie than the Moore one, the luscious Jane Seymour notwithstanding.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020 12:23 PM (Ki5SV)

355 352 I know you all will agree, I was the superior Blofeld. It's really no competition considering the other...

Did you hear that?
I distinctly heard the sound of a pyooma. Maybe flying? ...No. Flying idiotically.
Posted by: Donald Pleasance at February 14, 2020 12:23 PM (vbuHy)

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Yes, though Telly Savalas was quite good in On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 12:23 PM (q80AH)

356 354 And Live and Let Die, the book, is marvelous and would have made a much better movie than the Moore one, the luscious Jane Seymour notwithstanding.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020 12:23 PM (Ki5SV)

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I liked Moore in that movie, and little else. Yaphet Kotto was one of the little else, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at February 14, 2020 12:24 PM (q80AH)

357 @282 Bozo,
That Kermit was T.R.'s grandson. Yes, the name "Kermit" actually ran in their family.

And Norm? That was Norman Schwarzkopf Sr, father of the later general. And, the guy who, as commander of the N.J. State Police, arrested Bruno Hauptmann. That was a damned exciting world!

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 12:26 PM (8IOEj)

358 OK, a little research they still own 58% of the building the rest is owned by someone else.

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 12:28 PM (mpXpK)

359 And Live and Let Die, the book, is marvelous and would have made a much better movie than the Moore one, the luscious Jane Seymour notwithstanding.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020


*
*

If you thought the producers sanitized the LaLD story for the Moore film, imagine what they'd do to it today. Mr. Big would appear to be the villain, but it would turn out he's been the puppet of an evil white male all along.

There are scenes in the Fleming novel which would get him called RAYCIST!!! today. But he was reporting on the sort of things he'd actually seen in Harlem. And I can tell you that much of what he described is still true today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 12:28 PM (Ejm1K)

360 shit wrong thread

Posted by: Vic at February 14, 2020 12:29 PM (mpXpK)

361 I got a .22 plinker for my wife!
"Great trade!"
The sweetest hand-fitting, go-anywhere little pistol ever is the Ruger Bearcat. They are a little hard to find, but worth the trip.

Do not rule out the Mark I. Every improved version inspires new storied about how hard they are to re-assemble, but if you keep the exposed part of the action clean, it almost never needs to be disass'ed. They shoot beautifully and do not jam.

Both the Colt Woodsman, and S and W Mod 41, are classics, yet the ones I handled were disappointing. This may be what made the Ruger Marks so popular.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 14, 2020 12:33 PM (8IOEj)

362 I don't think Shapiro is quite that bad but just to be on the safe side I watch Klavan and Knowles before I watch him. All those other guys, on the button.

Posted by: Hurricane567 at February 14, 2020 12:39 PM (QPHnM)

363 The country club Republicans would be ostracized for wealth and their pallor as the Dems already have billionaire donors and don't need them. And the Democrats have made it fully clear that they will raise all sorts of taxes on the country club Republicans if they have power. When you run government as a redistribution agency that always demands more, you gotta pay the bills.

The undercover Dems, will eventually go away if they have no support but will more or less take a hit to rebuild their career advancement if they are of no more use as Quislings to the Dems.
Posted by: whig at February 14, 2020 12:13 PM (EUDB2)

The current NT brigade aren't the country club Republicans. They just stole their magazine and media jobs. I never liked CC Republicans much, but in the 70s they were a force in politics. And like the Southern Democrats, they died out in the 80s and no longer exist.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 14, 2020 01:47 PM (eoQWY)

364 53 Speaking of Cyd Charisse:

Alan Jay Lerner tells the story of a well-known lyricist - it might have been Yip (The Wizard of Oz) Harburg, but I'm not near my books - who was walking down a street with a friend who challenged him to find a rhyme to the name "Charisse."

Without missing a beat, he responded:

Cyd Charisse!
Up there on the mantlepiece;
You're quite a shock there -
We need a clock there!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 14, 2020 11:19 AM (Ki5SV)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at February 14, 2020 01:55 PM (7juvc)

365 Read that article about Jussie Smollett. No comments section. What I would have told them:

As a resident of Chicago I found it noteworthy that while the national media jumped on the story the local media was immediately skeptical. To believe his story you had to believe that 1) random white Trump supporters in Chicago watch his show and knew who Jussie Smollett was, 2) knew where he lived, 3) were carrying around all that stuff and 4) hung around in below zero weather with the wind blowing to do this.

It was *bitter* cold that night. NOBODY was walking around in that weather. People in L.A. have no idea what that's like. Heck, that bleach solution would have been ice in 10 minutes and so would the hand that was holding it.

Posted by: RonF at February 14, 2020 02:00 PM (28zW2)

366 Ben Shapiro does not have whiskers. I checked.

Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at February 14, 2020 02:54 PM (49H2o)

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