Gun Thread: He's Got a Gun! Shoot 'em!! [Weasel]

If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times, when the space guys land in your yard and come out with hinky looking space shit in their hands, pop a cap in their ass! And damned if that's not what they did in 1951! Let's find out how that worked out below, shall we?

Gort goes all gangster

Well it was working just fine, thank you very much, until this guy shows up! Oh sure, play the robot with the eye ray card! I see how this is going to be. The lesson here is to know your target and think before you shoot.

.22 Plinker Update
Last week I mentioned buying a .22 caliber rifle for shooting steel at the farm, and how you can have a whole lot of fun spending an afternoon just plinking away. So I buy the rifle online and it's accurately listed in "fair" condition when I pick it up. Perfect for what I want and it's priced accordingly. The rifle, a Colt Colteer 1-22, is about 65 or 70 years old and came with a fixed power Weaver B4 scope of the same vintage. The gun is mechanically sound but once I get it out into the sun I can tell the scope glass is cloudy. Not so much as to make it unusable, but pretty far from being clear, too. What to do?

Well I figured there must be a place out there repairing vintage scopes, and lo and behold, there is! Searching for "vintage gun scopes" I found a company with the crazy and imaginative name Vintage Gun Scopes. So after a little poking around on their website, I learn I can have my scope overhauled for around $100 with a 90 day turnaround. A little more poking around and I find I can buy the same refurbished scope graded in excellent condition, cleaned and nitrogen purged, for $150. Well that's getting close to what I spent on the rifle, but who gives a shit? I decide to skip fixing mine for now and just ordered a replacement.

I make it a practice to only recommend companies or products here which I have personally used and am willing to endorse with the Weasel Stamp of Approval, and I'm delighted to add Vintage Gun Scopes to the list. I place the order, a week goes by and I have a box on my doorstep, shipped with tracking and insurance, for $5. The scope was very well packaged with enough bubble wrap to make Greta cry in outrage, and came in a nice wooden presentation box. The condition was exactly as advertised, with only a very slight ring mark evident. The glass is sharp and clear, and I'm a happy shooter. Seriously, if you have a project like this and need glass, take a look at Vintage Gun Scopes in Corvallis, MT.

Does it make sense to put a $150 scope on a $200 rifle? I don't know about you all, but it does to me. I once bought a police trade-in S&W Model 10 in beat-to-hell condition, then sent it to the factory to be refinished, making it a $500, $200 gun. It turned out so nice, I never got around to shooting it! To be fair, I have other Model 10's and was frankly just curious to see how it would come out, and get a certain satisfaction from seeing these old and unloved guns and accessories return from the scrap heap.

How about you all? Do you take economics into strict account when making decisions like this, or do you sometimes do things that don't make a lot of economic sense but just seem like the right or a fun thing to do?

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Virginia

Well the radical leftist gun-grabbers are still at it in Virginia. Governor Asshead (Idiot - Va) and his cronies apparantly interpreted over 20,000 gun rights supporters in Richmond as a mandate to go full steam ahead with their anti 2nd Amendment agenda. This week, House Bill 961 made it out of committee and now heads to the state Senate, albeit with some modification. The current version drops the "assault rifle" registration nonsense, but still prohibits new sales and makes owning suppressors and magazines with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, a felony.

Here's an excerpt from the VSSA press release on the matter, and here is a link to a summary of the bill with links to the current marked-up legislative language.

If you live in Virginia, please stay engaged and keep the pressure on localities which have declared themselves 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries, letting them know you expect them to follow through with their commitments. Remember, what is happening in Virginia could be happening in your state next. Stay tuned.

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It's About Time
Here's a happy little reminder that we live in a world that is quickly losing it's collective mind. We're all familiar with BATFE Form 4473, or the Federal form used to process the transfer of a firearm. Well the feds are accepting comments on some rather important proposed changes to the document, such as making the questions a lot more confusing, and now being allowed to select "non binary" as your sex. So glad to see my tax dollars being put to such good use. [h/t: everyone who sent this in]

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NoVaMoMe 2020!!

For those who might've missed it, NoVaMoMe 2020 was announced to great fanfare a few days ago. The NoVaMoMe, a Weaselbell Production, is pretty much the social event of the season, and one you simply cannot afford to miss! Well, at least it's the can't miss social event for May 9th between 5pm and 10pm in the small geographic region of Fairfax, Virginia. All of the details and instructions for claiming a spot can be yours simply by emailing the Central Planning Committee at the link provided on the main page, left sidebar; novamome2020 at gmail dot cee oh mmm. The email address is also usually linked in our nics. As of Saturday, we're about halfway to the 100 person maximum capacity of the new and exciting venue.

Our best buddy and planner/hostess extraordiaire bluebell was quoted recently regarding the big event:

There will be plenty of Horde spouses at the MoMe, some of whom read the blog, some of whom don't, and some completely apolitical. I want to assure everyone that MoMes are a place to relax and have fun and meet your grey-box friends in person, and rarely does politics even come up! Think of it as a big family reunion, only with people you actually like.

Totally not at shiv-point, I vigorously agree with all of bluebell's comments. For the introverts and lurkers out there, its a very casual, low-key, and FUN affair. I have been to a bunch of these around the country, and I can honestly say nobody comes away thinking it wasn't a great time. Some people mingle and others don't. If hiding behind a plant in the corner and just observing is your thing, have at it! If dancing naked on a folding chair with Cheetos stuck in your nose is how you like to roll, you can do that too! You can be as involved or as barely involved as you like. I swear you will enjoy yourself, and if you don't believe me, which is always smart, you can completely believe bluebell!

Don't be a sad, sad loser, and miss an evening of food, drink, laughs and valuable prizes! Register today!

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Link-O-Rama

I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
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Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan

***Mail Bag***

This week we have a great submission from our pal neon madman

Here are a couple of finds from a recent gun show, a source that I like to prowl looking for boxes of random mixed cartridges that occasionally have a few gems in them. In this case, I struck pay dirt, and picked these up for a couple of bucks. On the left, we have a Fiocchi 32 gauge shotgun shell, and on the right a 20 gauge all-plastic Wanda shell. In the center is a mystery, I have not been able to identify it yet. Nominally about .36 caliber, with a straight copper case (slight taper near the front), and no visible headstamp or primer. I'm assuming that it is inside primed, and in some ways that rimless, grooveless case resembles a Bergmann cartridge, but I don't think that's it. All of the Bergmann cartridges I am aware of are brass cases with a center-fire primer.

Another great entry by Neon Madman. Thank you! Can anyone help identify the middle cartridge?

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Astros

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCEU2)

2 Bang!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 07:02 PM (BOpNY)

3 Is the firing line ready?

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 07:02 PM (DMUuz)

4 and i second the emotion of Vintage Scopes...

their stuff, and their customer service, is awesome.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 07:02 PM (BOpNY)

5 Astros is my suggestion for what the new Space Force troops should be called

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2020 07:03 PM (ZCEU2)

6 Whew. I thought you were going to say "you can completely BLAME bluebell."

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:04 PM (/669Q)

7 Yaaay!! One of the best ways to end the weekend, The AoS Gun Thread.
Weasel, how old is that scope?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:04 PM (KVbKA)

8 Molon Labe, remembering -

"Walk toward the fire. Don't worry about what they call you. All those things are said against you because they want to stop you in your tracks. But if you keep going, you're sending a message to people who are rooting for you, who are agreeing with you. The message is that they can do it, too."
_Andrew Breitbart

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2020 07:06 PM (cNlpM)

9 Chani and I are go for NoVAMoMe. We have booked our flights, event tix, and hotel.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2020 07:06 PM (Um2IM)

10 The current version drops the "assault rifle" registration nonsense, but still prohibits new sales and makes owning suppressors and magazines with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, a felony.

I see dead people.

Posted by: Haley Joel Osment, you know him as that kid in the Bruce Willis movie at February 09, 2020 07:06 PM (sy5kK)

11 Yaaay!! One of the best ways to end the weekend, The AoS Gun Thread.
Weasel, how old is that scope?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:04 PM (KVbKA)
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I suspect it's from the late 50s.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:07 PM (MVjcR)

12 motto for firearm and related purchases, especially optics: buy once, cry once

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 07:07 PM (BOpNY)

13 I love my little Henry AR-7 for .22 plinking.
Plus, it floats. So, no canoe accidents.

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at February 09, 2020 07:07 PM (w7KSn)

14 What would that copper cartridge headspace on?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2020 07:08 PM (LxWV7)

15 Whew. I thought you were going to say "you can completely BLAME bluebell."
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:04 PM (/669Q)
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Only in an emergency!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

16 They should be called Foo Troops in honor of WW2 Foo Fighters.

Posted by: George Noory at February 09, 2020 07:08 PM (/LQkF)

17 So - which Army platoon will be first to take 'Dog Faced Pony Soldier' as a moniker? Complete with patch and tattoo. [My first thought was that they'd be Marines but apparently dogface is infantry slang, or maybe cavalry.]

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 07:09 PM (ykYG2)

18 My 1911A1 finally came in from CMP this week. I had put in for the lottery number back in Sept of 2018. Its a Remington Rand (frame and slide) that left the factory in March of 1945. It has a govt contract (post 1949) barrel that has seen very little use. The pistol is in great shape, I cant find any rebuild marks so it must have been in storage at the arsenal for a very long time.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 09, 2020 07:09 PM (cCxiu)

19 What would that copper cartridge headspace on?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2020 07:08 PM (LxWV7)
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I was wondering the same thing. Maybe that's why no one knows what it is! I'm guessing the taper is all there is.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:10 PM (MVjcR)

20 Myself, Mrs VIA (Who tends to be shy) and finally, after a 10 month deployment on the USS Abraham Lincoln, Little VIA (Who spent a great deal of time showing the blog to his squadron mates) are signed up, and can't wait for the NoVaMoMe.

Seriously, as Weasel said, it's not a political rally.

It's friends in the grey boxes getting to meet and share their lives in real life with each other.

This will be our third.

And a good time is really and truly had by all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 07:10 PM (tT0V4)

21 I love my little Henry AR-7 for .22 plinking.
Plus, it floats. So, no canoe accidents.
Posted by: atilla the thrilla at February 09, 2020 07:07 PM (w7KSn)

That's a bug, not a feature!

Posted by: Canoe rental assistant manager at February 09, 2020 07:10 PM (z79tQ)

22 Astros is my suggestion for what the new Space Force troops should be called

Only if they can cheat... the Rocket Equation.

Which was designed by Tsiolkovsky, the Russian. Booo!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 07:11 PM (ykYG2)

23 Re your mystery .36 caliber rimless:
Are you sure it isn't just a .357 bullet for something like a .35 Remington or 350 Magnum? Sure looks like it.

Posted by: VelvetElvis at February 09, 2020 07:11 PM (hOz/D)

24 Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 09, 2020 07:09 PM (cCxiu)
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Nice! Congratulations! Care to send in a photo?

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:11 PM (MVjcR)

25 Choot 'im, Boudreaux, choot 'im!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 09, 2020 07:12 PM (FRGnP)

26 Does it make sense to put a $150 scope on a $200 rifle?
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Pfft. I've mentioned my Unertl scope...worth much more than the rifle, which was lost. Canoe, accident.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 07:12 PM (xSo9G)

27 dog face is GI/Infantry... pony soldier is a Cav thing, by definition.

during my illustrious career

i was both, at one time or another...

not to mention various flavors of REMF

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 07:13 PM (BOpNY)

28 Looking forward to seeing a picture of the scope mounted on the rifle and your review. ;-)
Well I finally pulled the trigger (pun intended) and purchased my first rifle.It is due to be delivered to the FFL this Tuesday. As I am at work I will not be able to do anything until Saturday where I will travel outside the stifling confines of NYC to acquire my purchase. I may not be bringing it home that day as I am also bringing the scope I purchased the other week and will have the gunsmith there mount it on my rifle along with bore sighting it and also pinning down the 10 round magazine so that it only holds 5 rounds.

Yes, even with a bolt action gun the Peoples Republic of New York City deem it to dangerous to have such a high magazine capacity.More and more as I get into this hobby it is making me hate NYC and NY even more with their anti-gun laws.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:14 PM (KVbKA)

29 Slinks off to work on his essay. You cobs make it look so easy!

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:15 PM (0x00j)

30 The current version drops the "assault rifle" registration nonsense, but still prohibits new sales and makes owning suppressors and magazines with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, a felony.

Down in Texas they built/are building a vault to keep their 1B in gold out of the Chase Manhattan bank.
Others are welcome to use their facility.

A thought.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2020 07:15 PM (cNlpM)

31 good news on the CMP 1911...

we didn't have that kind of $$ lying around to spend on one.

this time.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 07:15 PM (BOpNY)

32 So I guess it's now pretty much established that specific language in Heller - something put out by an outfit called SCOTUS - is just a suggestion? Otherwise, how can these restrictions on ARs be enacted, or stand for even a few months? Try doing that with *any* other constitutional right, as specifically defined and detailed by SCOTUS (itself a hopelessly dubious process, but for now the status quo).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 07:16 PM (El6T/)

33
That NoVaMoMe, is bluebell giving her seminar on the do's and don'ts of manufacturing a proper shiv?

With all those Chinese counterfeit knockoffs these days, this could be the most attended seminar of them all weekend.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 07:16 PM (sy5kK)

34

Which Gun wins the Oscar, this year?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 09, 2020 07:16 PM (TxqCC)

35 So hard hard is it to put together a MoMe?

Our first consisted of an out of the blue invite from WeirdDave to a local restaurant.

Nothing fancy.

Just maybe eight of us having dinner.

I showed up with actual pudding cups.

About three hours later we all left, happy and with lifelong friendships and memories.

Bluebell and Weasel put together an evening to remember.

With the relocation to S.C. we may finally get to to the Texas MoMe next year.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 07:16 PM (tT0V4)

36 willowed

Space Force = Roger Ramjet's Rangers

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:17 PM (0x00j)

37 The NoVaMoMe, a Weaselbell Production

The ordering of the names represents, of course, who's doing the most preparatory work.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 07:17 PM (DMUuz)

38 Orbitroops?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2020 07:17 PM (LxWV7)

39 32 So I guess it's now pretty much established that specific language in Heller - something put out by an outfit called SCOTUS - is just a suggestion?

CANCEL, CANCEL, CANCEL.

It's our culture now.

Posted by: VA Legislature and racist governor at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (sy5kK)

40 In a completely astounding turn of events, when I mentioned the NoVaMoMe2020, Mrs. Red said (and I quote):
"Okaybye" and waved her hand at me.
What does this mean? And do think she has a boyfriend?

Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (5OiEy)

41 The ordering of the names represents, of course, who's doing the most preparatory work.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 07:17 PM (DMUuz)
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Absodarnlutely.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (/669Q)

42 I've only shot a Henry .22 rifle and I love the plinking. Pretty easy to sight the target. Maybe someday I'll get comfortable with a handgun.

Posted by: kallisto at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (cT+Os)

43 VA resident, bought a suppressor yesterday. I wish I hadn't agreed to stop by a friend's place on the way home and go out on his boat. Wouldn't you know it, just as I'm showing it to him, I fumble it and it fell into the water. Lost forever.

Posted by: Mainah at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (m0CLK)

44
That NoVaMoMe, is bluebell giving her seminar on the do's and don'ts of manufacturing a proper shiv?

With all those Chinese counterfeit knockoffs these days, this could be the most attended seminar of them all weekend.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 07:16 PM (sy5kK)
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She can usually be talked into a shiv demonstration!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:19 PM (MVjcR)

45 I will know later on this week if I can make the NoVaMoMe. It is about 4.5 hours from where I live. Should be a nice drive. (queue "Red Barchetta" by Rush)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:20 PM (KVbKA)

46 @31 redc1c4, The scuttlebutt I've been hearing is in 18-24 months the CMP will start taking submissions for 1911's again.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 09, 2020 07:20 PM (cCxiu)

47 I was always a big believer in good optics. I wouldn't care if the scope cost more than the gun. I have a mint kahles scope from the 1980's sitting around with nothing to put it on, because jersey, but I'm a screwball and would mount it to a frigging BB gun if I needed a scope. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2020 07:20 PM (9Om/r)

48 Boulder t'hobo:
27th Infantry regiment, the Wolfhounds, 25th Tropic Lightning division.

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:20 PM (0x00j)

49 40 In a completely astounding turn of events, when I mentioned the NoVaMoMe2020, Mrs. Red said (and I quote):
"Okaybye" and waved her hand at me.
What does this mean? And do think she has a boyfriend?
Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (5OiEy)
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Who cares! C'mon down!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

50 VA resident, bought a suppressor yesterday. I wish I hadn't agreed to stop by a friend's place on the way home and go out on his boat. Wouldn't you know it, just as I'm showing it to him, I fumble it and it fell into the water. Lost forever.
Posted by: Mainah at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (m0CLK)

Huh. tough luck.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 09, 2020 07:21 PM (aS1PU)

51 37 The NoVaMoMe, a Weaselbell Production

The ordering of the names represents, of course, who's doing the most preparatory work.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 07:17 PM (DMUuz)
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Inversely proportionate to the amount of work, I assure you!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

52 Space Force doesn't use ramjets; ramjets are only good in atmosphere.

(Unless someone uses a ramjet missile to propel cargo into orbit, which I'm hoping is done someday - because of that bastard Tsiolkovsky.)

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 07:22 PM (ykYG2)

53 Chani and I are go for NoVAMoMe. We have booked our flights, event tix, and hotel.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2020 07:06 PM (Um2IM)
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🎉 🎉 🎊 🎊

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:22 PM (/669Q)

54 VA resident, bought a suppressor yesterday. I wish I
hadn't agreed to stop by a friend's place on the way home and go out on
his boat. Wouldn't you know it, just as I'm showing it to him, I
fumble it and it fell into the water. Lost forever.

Posted by: Mainah at February 09, 2020 07:18 PM (m0CLK)

Damn, first canoes now boats!!! What is it that watercraft has against firearms?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:23 PM (KVbKA)

55 I registered for the NoVaMoMe2020 so assuming nothing goes sideways work or life wise, I'll be there. I might be the guy snoozing in a corner somewhere If I'm getting off work.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2020 07:23 PM (eSYLv)

56 So I read the Greek as "Moron babe". .....

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 09, 2020 07:23 PM (CPk08)

57 Hoist on my own petard.

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:24 PM (0x00j)

58 >

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:22 PM (/669Q)

Already started on the name badges as well.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2020 07:24 PM (Um2IM)

59 @24 Weasel, yes I will certainly get some photos of it to you this week.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 09, 2020 07:24 PM (cCxiu)

60 So I read the Greek as "Moron babe". .....
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 09, 2020 07:23 PM (CPk0

They have those, you know.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 07:25 PM (t+qrx)

61 At the urging of our host, I did make it to the gun shop this week and picked up a box of 1000 9mm Luger. Very good price as it was a broken box. (Looks like someone stood on it to retrieve a bottle of bourbon from the top shelf.)

My lovely wife is very much looking forward to both the NoVaMoMe and TXMoMe in October.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 07:25 PM (Y4EXg)

62 59 @24 Weasel, yes I will certainly get some photos of it to you this week.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 09, 2020 07:24 PM (cCxiu)
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Great! Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:25 PM (MVjcR)

63 Hoist on my own petard.

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:24 PM (0x00j)

It is impossible for one to hoist themselves up by their petard!!!!

Posted by: AOC at February 09, 2020 07:25 PM (KVbKA)

64 Right on Weasel!

Restoring an oldie but a goody to as made condition is a very self satisfying joy. That old scope was just sitting there, wasting away, neglected and forlorn, and to be put back into fighting shape is as it should be. Good on you.

This week was old Mauser week. I took the Czech Vz 24, made for the Romanians in 1940, and a Yugo M48A(B) made in the 50's out and put them thru their paces.

Such a joy to shoot old war horses and see them shine. Got both zeroed out to 100 yards and the Yugo, although a little cheaper made, out shot the Czech by a frog's hair. I shot old German surplus from 1943/1944 and newer Remington and Sellier and Bellot and all shot great and went bang.

Next week I will take them out to 600 yards and let those big old 8 mm rounds do their thing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2020 07:26 PM (Z+IKu)

65 I almost bought a .22 break barrel air rifle today. I walked around the store with it shopping for other items and ultimately decided I didn't need a $200 toy today and put it back. Maybe another day . It would be fun to shoot targets in my patio.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 07:26 PM (2DOZq)

66 Myself, Mrs VIA (Who tends to be shy) and finally,
after a 10 month deployment on the USS Abraham Lincoln, Little VIA (Who
spent a great deal of time showing the blog to his squadron mates) are
signed up, and can't wait for the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 07:10 PM (tT0V4)
Am I a terrible person for thinking Little VIA is taller than you?

Posted by: Vendette at February 09, 2020 07:26 PM (wdsO9)

67 The Colt King Cobra whose photo Weasel graciously featured on one of the first gun threads was refinished at Colt (before whatever happened happened with the Custom Shop), I was able to get particularly good service thanks to a connection via the Colt Forum.

I did that just because I wanted her pretty. Turned out my total $ into the revolver was, even at that moment, 1/3 of the price that was being seen online for the type and model. But that wasn't a consideration.

Like Weasel, I like seeing/having these nice things in nice condition.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 07:26 PM (El6T/)

68 I had a Weaver Model B4 when I was 14 or 15, mounted on a Remington Model 511 Scoremaster. Alas, canoe accident. Anyhow, I think the scope cost ~$10.00.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 07:27 PM (CDGwz)

69 This is a total guess but that unknown cartridge makes me think of a rimfire cartridge from the black powder era. However, I can't see how it would fit in a chamber unless the lip catches on something. Sorry I can't come up with anything better.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 07:27 PM (7EjX1)

70 Yes. I have been granted special dispensation and will be attending.
Now, how to transport waterlogged weapons across NY and NJ.
There will be shooting, right?

Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2020 07:28 PM (5OiEy)

71 Howdy, Horde! No range time, but I ordered a .556 upper kit, minus only a BCG. This will go in the Suitcase "go" kit with the Polymer 80% lower (and pieces to finish it), the .22 adapter and the 410 upper, with required ammo. As much as I can fit.

And I'm getting ready for a trip to Andrews AFB. Staying in Olde Towne Alexandria. Anyone wanna get together for adult beverages and a seegar?

Now to read the post, and comments. BRB

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at February 09, 2020 07:28 PM (gMngZ)

72 I'm utterly baffled by the little cartridge up there.

There are all kinds of short-lived cartridges from the wild and crazy days of the transition from paper to self-contained metallic, and some that look like that with internal primers that strike an anvil inside, but I can't seem to find any that are completely featureless on the case head. Usually there's a little dimple for the primer, even if it's not exposed.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 07:29 PM (t+qrx)

73 I don't see anything, and I'm not hearing so well, either.

Posted by: Capt. Petard at February 09, 2020 07:29 PM (DMUuz)

74 Seeking guidance from the gun geeks:

I inherited a Lee Enfield No. 5 Mk I jungle carbine from my father. Prior to him getting it, the bayonet mount had been cut off (professionally, not a hack job). It still has the flash hider and all other original parts. I refinished the stock many, many years ago, when I was about 12 y.o. So, it's not in original condition.

So I'm thinking it my be a fun project to sporterize it. Something Parker-Hale-ish. New stock. Remove flash hider, etc. I could do the stock, possibly some other minor stuff. Anything critical I'd leave for a gunsmith. Wouldn't commence this project until a couple of years from now, so just pre-planning.

Thoughts? Sacrilege?

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 07:29 PM (BaHwF)

75 If you live in Virginia, please stay engaged and keep the pressure on localities which have declared themselves 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries, letting them know you expect them to follow through with their commitments. Remember, what is happening in Virginia could be happening in your state next. Stay tuned.
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WA state is 3 weeks behind, having gone all blue like VA. Our legislature starts 3 weeks later. And there are a small group of local billionaires that fund their message and personnel to manage this corruption.

We have had a meetup of gunowning citizens in Olympia already, completely safe and without incident, and even picked up the trash on the ground before it finished.

The next day, legislation was proposed to ban all gun carry on the state capitol grounds.

This is the way they respond to a peaceful gathering.

The local anti-freedom press has ceased any actual intel what is going on, just like last year with the gun-stealing I-1639. The 1971 Soviet Pravda would be proud how they smother any opposition.

Only a few Repub legislators get emails out to us to keep us informed what is going on.

But at the center of it, they are commie pussies. They Oh So BAD want to take guns away, but are terrified of any backlash. Absolutely terrified.

So Virginia, PLEASE GIVE THOSE GUN GRABBING BASTARD LEGISLATORS HELL!!!

The WA state leftie pussies are watching. Yes they are.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 07:29 PM (sy5kK)

76 VIA, how do you want your boy's name badge to read?

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2020 07:30 PM (Um2IM)

77 Weasel,
When sending in a gun like the model 10 to be refinished at the factory, does it have to go through an FFL going or coming to you?

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 07:30 PM (7EjX1)

78 Decapping 9mm brass, then going to do my first 45 Colt reloads (for a Model 1866 Uberti repro lever rifle). Then a bunch of 30 carbine brass prep, then reload that, then hopefully have most of my HXP 30-06 surplus shot up so I can process all of *that* brass (which tends to be a time-sink, about 1/3 of the cases need filing to make the rims fit in the shell holder - M1s beat the bejeesus out of the cases).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 07:31 PM (El6T/)

79 68 I had a Weaver Model B4 when I was 14 or 15, mounted on a Remington Model 511 Scoremaster. Alas, canoe accident. Anyhow, I think the scope cost ~$10.00.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 07:27 PM (CDGwz)
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I was wrestling earlier with a PDF of a Weaver B4/B6 advertisement brochure, but gave up and left it out. New, they were $7 and $9, respectively. I left it out because it was depressing.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:31 PM (MVjcR)

80 My lawyer says I can go but my face has to be pixelated.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 09, 2020 07:31 PM (2lkLk)

81 It is impossible for one to hoist themselves up by their petard!!!!

Posted by: AOC at February 09, 2020 07:25 PM (KVbKA)

Shouldn't you be studying Milton Keynes for that tough Econ 304 class Up From Conservatism?

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:32 PM (0x00j)

82 Guns you own can be shipped directly to manufacturers (who obviously are FFLs), and back to you, no local FFL required. FedEx is your best or only option on that, IIRC. Have sent revolvers to Colt and to S&W.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 07:32 PM (El6T/)

83 Pick my not one but two, two AR 15s this week!. Ordered one online because my local gun shop has been unable to get the one I ordered in. The wait started early last October.

So I go in and pick up my online AR and what do you know. The company the gun shop ordered from last October (Son's of Liberty) sent a couple of AR pistols instead.

I therefore bought one of the AR pistols too. The gun shop feeling bad about the wait, waived the transfer fee, paid for the background check and gave me two slings and back sites at 40% off.

Unfortunately, tragedy struck while crossing the small creek in town. Before I could stop them the ARs leapt from the moving SUV and disappeared in the murky water.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 09, 2020 07:32 PM (98S4t)

84 77 Weasel,
When sending in a gun like the model 10 to be refinished at the factory, does it have to go through an FFL going or coming to you?
Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 07:30 PM (7EjX1)
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Nope. The factory sends you a shipping label and you give it to UPS. It comes straight back to you, too.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:33 PM (MVjcR)

85 Would "Dad Worked for the Village Idiot" fit?

Posted by: Vendette at February 09, 2020 07:33 PM (wdsO9)

86 16 They should be called Foo Troops in honor of WW2 Foo Fighters.

Posted by: George Noory at February 09, 2020 07:08 PM (/LQkF)

When they go it would be termed, 'flight of the Foo Birds'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMg8an9Erg

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2020 07:33 PM (cNlpM)

87 Middle cartridge in pic at top: Just from appearances I'd guess it's actually an early copper-jacketed bullet. But, I presume NM was able to rule that out by being able to handle it.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM (BaHwF)

88 Neon Madman may have a Kynoch .400/.360 soft nose bullet there. Most weighed in the vicinity of 300 grains and measured .362 - .366 inch in diameter, depending upon the exact cartridge they were intended for (each English and Scottish riflemaker had their own versions of this cartridge, sometimes several).

Posted by: 10x25mm at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM (C7oWg)

89 I'm in for the MoMee.

As to optics, yes. But once, cry once. I put a trijicon accupoint on top of my larue and a vortex diamondback on my ruger precision 22.

Spend on your optics.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM (T8HPM)

90 redc, was in a gub store last week, out of curiosity looked into the new ammo law situation, turns out buying that Model 1866 up at Rifle Gear last year put me automatically into the system, and with a Real ID DL (just got it yesterday), they said I can buy without any further hassle.

Of course it's absurd, and needs to be obliterated by what pass for "courts". Any news on that front?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM (El6T/)

91 70 Yes. I have been granted special dispensation and will be attending.
Now, how to transport waterlogged weapons across NY and NJ.
There will be shooting, right?
Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2020 07:28 PM (5OiEy)
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Sadly, you'll have to come to Texas in October for a shootin' MoMe.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

92 You need Larry Potterfield from MidWay USA to identify that bullet. He appears somewhat odd but that dude can do and knows everything about guns.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 07:35 PM (2DOZq)

93 Corvallis, MT? Shoot (SWIDT?), that's down by Stevensville d Hamilton and just over the range from Phillipsburg (home of the coolest candy shop in the world!). I'll have to make it a point to stop in sometime. Oh and if you are interested, there are several bulk ammo places therein Stevensville. HSM is a GREAT product. And I say that as one who uses their 30-06 A LOT (and did in Africa a couple years back)

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at February 09, 2020 07:35 PM (gMngZ)

94 The VA bill is about "assault firearms" not assault weapons. So they cover rifles and pistols under the definition. Mostly aimed at rifle based pistols but the big Desert Eagle would fall into this category.

In a way, we are dodging a bullet, in a way we are not. So the bill as modified does not require registration of existing assault firearms, transfers are prohibited. So you cannot buy or sell or even give away your assault firearms.

Not sure how that will play out.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:36 PM (ZfRYq)

95
Yes, even with a bolt action gun the Peoples Republic of New York City deem it to dangerous to have such a high magazine capacity.More and more as I get into this hobby it is making me hate NYC and NY even more with their anti-gun laws.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:14 PM (KVbKA)

welcome, my friend. welcome.

Posted by: American citizens at February 09, 2020 07:36 PM (sy5kK)

96 VIA, how do you want your boy's name badge to read?
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2020 07:30 PM (Um2IM)
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I've got it ion his registration.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:36 PM (/669Q)

97 80 My lawyer says I can go but my face has to be pixelated.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 09, 2020 07:31 PM (2lkLk)
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Many attendees wear bags.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:36 PM (MVjcR)

98 Is the round even a live round?

I've got some Shells for me shotgun that are not live, but are used to practice loading.

Posted by: Don Q at February 09, 2020 07:37 PM (NgKpN)

99 >>> 91 70 Yes. I have been granted special dispensation and will be attending.
Now, how to transport waterlogged weapons across NY and NJ.
There will be shooting, right?
Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2020 07:28 PM (5OiEy)
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Sadly, you'll have to come to Texas in October for a shootin' MoMe.
Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

Michigan had some pew-pew last year in the early June edition, and didn't SW Ohio in mid-October?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 09, 2020 07:38 PM (0ReGO)

100 Yes, even with a bolt action gun the Peoples Republic of New York City
deem it to dangerous to have such a high magazine capacity.More and more
as I get into this hobby it is making me hate NYC and NY even more with
their anti-gun laws.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:14 PM (KVbKA)

I would be surprised they let you have a pea shooter straw over there, and when somebody from jersey says that you know you are truly fucked. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2020 07:38 PM (9Om/r)

101 Muad'dib, I can send you what I already have if you like. Thank you for your generous offer to make and donate the badges to us yet again. I've never seen any as nice.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:39 PM (/669Q)

102 Any thoughts or information on what, if anything, our overlords in Richmond or Fairfax County have planned for concealed carry permits? I've been
wondering if they'll change the standard in Virginia from "shall issue" or will make
it a PITA to get them renewed.

I'll be at the MoMe, possibly with a lurker friend in tow. Hoplite Husband has opted to sit this one out.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 09, 2020 07:39 PM (XXNQ+)

103 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 07:10 PM (tT0V4)

Looking forward to meeting "Little" VIA!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 09, 2020 07:39 PM (BiNEL)

104
Sadly, you'll have to come to Texas in October for a shootin' MoMe.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:34 PM

there's no date set yet, but we'll be shootin' at the Spring MiMoMe (probably in June)

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2020 07:40 PM (LaL6t)

105 I sent an email right away for the mome but didn't hear back and I don't see it in sent box. I sent another. Count me and Sra blaster in.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:40 PM (ZfRYq)

106 *Note to self*...

*go long on Cheerios*

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 09, 2020 07:41 PM (hmgiv)

107

First some clown in Florida drove a car into a crowd at a Republican voter registration event and now this. I'm sure the MFM will say the left needs to stop its violent rhetoric any millennia now

Washington,
D.C. police arrested a man carrying a knife outside the White House
Saturday after he allegedly expressed a desire to kill President Donald
Trump.

Roger
Hedgpeth, 25, allegedly told a U.S. Secret Service officer on 15th and
Pennsylvania Ave. NW that he wanted to assassinate the president and had
a knife with him,accordingto the Associated Press.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2020 07:41 PM (jXl61)

108 Michigan had some pew-pew last year in the early June edition, and didn't SW Ohio in mid-October?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

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Yes, we did at the SWOHMoMe. But NOT at the restaurant. Some small minded manager made us put the weaponry away. Baby.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 07:41 PM (Y4EXg)

109 105 I sent an email right away for the mome but didn't hear back and I don't see it in sent box. I sent another. Count me and Sra blaster in.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:40 PM (ZfRYq)
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OK. Glad to hear you're coming! You should be getting a response soon. If not, pls email me at the Gun Thread email.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:42 PM (MVjcR)

110 Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2020 07:41 PM (jXl61)

Good thing our betters have deemed that we kulaks do not need (or can be trusted with) self defense weapons!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 09, 2020 07:43 PM (BiNEL)

111 I would be surprised they let you have a pea shooter
straw over there, and when somebody from jersey says that you know you
are truly fucked. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2020 07:38 PM (9Om/r)

Hey, I am surprised that NYC granted me a rifle/shotgun permit AND a handgun permit.Sadly I found out that I was committing a felony every time I took my Sig across the Hudson to the ranges in New Jersey. Frigging ridiculous.I do hope when SCOTUS makes a decision on the NYC law prohibiting a licensed handgun owner from taking the gun from out of the 5 boroughs they will slam down HARD on NYC paving the way for me to transport my firearm to ranges beyond the borders of NYC and NY.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:43 PM (KVbKA)

112 74 .. Before you put the work into sporterizing the Mk 5, try it at the range first. They have long had a reputation for inconsistent zero. I don't know if that is true or one of those things that got mentioned decades ago by one or two guys and just gets continued as settled science. Since I don't have that model, I never paid much attention.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 07:44 PM (7EjX1)

113 Thoughts? Sacrilege?

If it is a true No 5, and not a molested No 4, as so many are, I'd leave it as is.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2020 07:45 PM (nBq51)

114
In a way, we are dodging a bullet, in a way we are not. So the bill as modified does not require registration of existing assault firearms, transfers are prohibited. So you cannot buy or sell or even give away your assault firearms.

Not sure how that will play out.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:36 PM (ZfRYq)

Actually, we have a very good idea how this will play out. Nobody wants to say it out loud.

Posted by: American citizens at February 09, 2020 07:45 PM (sy5kK)

115 Ok, Glock 44 review.
Prepare of Wall 'o text
TL;DR - the magazines suck and I can't endorse it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 07:45 PM (d1uFV)

116 bluebell. I need to ask a favor.

Will you give Maud'dib a very big hug from me?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (cTHyD)

117 The NYC guy who attempted to assassinate cops on three different occasions didn't worry about getting his gun permit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

118 Remember, Klaatu was from a superior civilization, far more intelligent than ours. So, of course when he lands and finds himself surrounded by weapons of all sizes and shapes, after announcing he's come in peace, he pulls out a doo-dad and clicks it open, without once saying "This is not a weapon."

"I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it."

Obligatory:
https://tinyurl.com/wdxadph

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (l9m7l)

119 Thoughts? Sacrilege?
Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 07:29 PM (BaHwF)

If you haven't already, run the numbers and find where made, where served and if there is any item in particular about that rifle. Surprises pop up sometimes which means keep it original as possible and the Brits, Aussies and even the New Zealanders kept good records.

Lots of info on the interweb for the Jungle Carbine, plus you may learn a thing or two while having fun!

Don't sporterize it, it's a piece of history which cannot be replaced.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (Z+IKu)

120 With the bill on the floor, I am thinking that another "assault firearm" purchase is prudent.

Thinking that $350 AR 15 from PSA is the way to go.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (ZfRYq)

121 82 and 84 ... rhomboid and Weasel, Thanks for the information.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 07:47 PM (7EjX1)

122 Gunga la gunga !

Posted by: JT at February 09, 2020 07:47 PM (arJlL)

123 Hey, I am surprised that NYC granted me a
rifle/shotgun permit AND a handgun permit.Sadly I found out that I was
committing a felony every time I took my Sig across the Hudson to the
ranges in New Jersey. Frigging ridiculous.I do hope when SCOTUS makes a
decision on the NYC law prohibiting a licensed handgun owner from taking
the gun from out of the 5 boroughs they will slam down HARD on NYC
paving the way for me to transport my firearm to ranges beyond the
borders of NYC and NY.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:43 PM (KVbKA)

Shit man, the law in both jersey and NY would have gang banged you. Damn...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2020 07:47 PM (9Om/r)

124 Ok, Glock 44 review.
Prepare of Wall 'o text
TL;DR - the magazines suck and I can't endorse it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 07:45 PM (d1uFV)

It's hard to make a .22 semi handgun that doesn't suck in some manner. Some more than others and it sounds like the G 44 is one of them.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 07:48 PM (2DOZq)

125 The NYC guy who attempted to assassinate cops on three different occasions didn't worry about getting his gun permit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

Rest assured they will clamp down harder on the law abiding citizen who actually FOLLOWS the law. Gee, what law passed would have prevented this POS from acquiring a gun?NONE!!! Because you CANNOT legislate EVIL!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:48 PM (KVbKA)

126 Don't think I'll be able to make the NoVaMoMe 2020. Looks like this will be my last or next to last trip to the DC area and most likely next to last on the East coast for a bit. I'll expand on that after next week

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at February 09, 2020 07:49 PM (gMngZ)

127 Shit man, the law in both jersey and NY would have gang banged you. Damn...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2020 07:47 PM (9Om/r)

Yep, that is why the Sig will remain home while I see if I can find an inexpensive range in NY.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 07:50 PM (KVbKA)

128 Range report: IDPA yesterday, shot okay to poorly.

However, had two 180 DQ's..one by a new shooter after being warned multiple times. (should have been DQ'd bit earlier, as he swept his leg during one stage. Or, so I was told)

The other DQ was a buddy of mine, who'd never been DQ'd, except, this time, went past a target, and, one brain fart later, turned around rather than back up to get the target.

Didn't take it hard, stuck around and scored the rest of the match for our squad.

Other guy, though? Well, none too pleased, so, we sort of kept an eye on him until he packed up and left.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 09, 2020 07:51 PM (WEBkv)

129 Actually, we have a very good idea how this will play out. Nobody wants to say it out loud.
Posted by: American citizens at February 09, 2020 07:45 PM (sy5kK)

I think the bill is going to play out like CT and NY and CO - nobody is going to turn in a magazine.

I think that for the most part the status quo ante will maintain.

But some things will happen right away. A fair number of gunstores will just go out of business.

The no-transfer business is going to build up - people who own "assault firearms" who are hard up for money are going to be stuck. People will pass away and what happens to their firearms? Things are going to snowball.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:51 PM (ZfRYq)

130
Posted by: McGyver at February 09, 2020 07:49 PM (gMngZ)
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Bummer!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:51 PM (MVjcR)

131 Actually, we have a very good idea how this will play out. Nobody wants to say it out loud.

Posted by: American citizens at February 09, 2020 07:45 PM (sy5kK)

Sadly, recorded history has a pretty long record of how this plays out.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 09, 2020 07:51 PM (BiNEL)

132 With the bill on the floor, I am thinking that another "assault firearm" purchase is prudent.

Thinking that $350 AR 15 from PSA is the way to go.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (ZfRYq)

This is the reason I bought both ARs. I expect the Oregon legislature to be chickenshits and pass something minutes before the session ends in a few weeks.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 09, 2020 07:51 PM (98S4t)

133 There is a indoor range and instructor from NJ advertising services but to me you have to go empty handed if you went.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2020 07:52 PM (ZCEU2)

134 Is this sausage from the last post still good to eat?

I'll let you know.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 07:52 PM (sy5kK)

135 Will you give Maud'dib a very big hug from me?
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (cTHyD)
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Of course!

And blaster, you did write to me but from a different email. I forwarded my response to the one you just sent.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 07:52 PM (/669Q)

136

Neon Madman: "Nominally about .36 caliber, ... "

This looks like a cartridge for a Needle Gun, probably a later version of the type.

Eley of London made a .38 cal firearm in the 1860's but the cartridges of that time were paper. Perhaps this is a brass version, or a brass loading for a competitor's firearm.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 09, 2020 07:54 PM (FlRtG)

137 Whew - not sure how that outbound email got selected.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

138 That "rimless rimfire" cartridge is a cupfire 30 or 42 cal, made to circumvent the bore-through patent, or "Crispin,"made in 31, 44 and 50 -- used for Civil War carbine conversions.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (oRpiG)

139 Well, it's been almost three weeks since I've ordered my Kel-Tec P-17. Still not in yet. I've got about 4,000 rounds of .22 LR so I have plenty to feed it. I had to laugh because it comes with a 16 round magazine. The guy at the gun shop told me that instead of three 16 round magazines, it comes with three "repair kits". CO has a 15 round magazine ordnance. Doesn't make any difference though. I picked up a couple of 25 round magazines for my 10/22 long after the law was passed. One of those laws that no one enforces.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (VNmG1)

140 a Weaselbell Production????

Pretty damned ballsy if you ask me.
Not a Bluewease Production?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (axyOa)

141 With the bill on the floor, I am thinking that another "assault firearm" purchase is prudent.

Thinking that $350 AR 15 from PSA is the way to go.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:46 PM (ZfRYq)

That price is crazy good.

And the source reputable.

If anyone was ever thinking of a purchase, there you go.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (sy5kK)

142 Congrats Neon Madman for winning the Dead Pool

Posted by: thefritz at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (1ZBHn)

143 Ooh I LIKE the choice of venue.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 07:56 PM (ZfRYq)

144 So, got my Glock 44, disassembled, read the manual, added a few drops of CLP BreakFree on the tab.

22 Plinkster and MAC on the YouTubes did not treat the gun kindly and, sadly, I can confirm about half of what they say.

Ammo tested were:
Winchester 36 grain bucket of bullets (100 rounds)
CCI SGB 40 grain flat point (50)
Winchester 36 grain plated hp (100)
Federal 40 grain practice ammo (50)
Armscor 36 grain JHP (50)
CCI Minimag (100 rounds)

The good:
Gun is accurate and the trigger is pretty good, with a very crisp reset

It IS a G19 Gen 5 for size and shape, including magazines

I did not find any problems with 36 grain ammo, despite other reports.

The bad:
The. Fucking. Magazines. Not only do they only hold 10 rounds (which would have been fine 5 or more years ago), they consistently fail to chamber the first round.

Every fucking single magazine I had a jam. That is not fun. I numbered all three mags (I bought an extra) but didn't see any one magazine was better than any other.

The problem is that the magazine design causes the first round to nosedive when the magazine is fully loaded. If I load just 9 rounds, I didn't see the problem.
--I will test this theory again next week but I'm not amused by only being able to load 9 rounds per mag.
--When I tap the magazine to make the first round 'perk up' to chamber correctly, then she SECOND round would consistently stovepipe.

I will do more testing.
I am not happy with this purchase.
I would like to go back to a previous save point and not buy it.

Guns that work better than the new fucking Glock 44:
CZ Kadet
SIG P250-22
Beretta 92-22
Ruger MK IV

I am very tempted to buy the cheap ass Ket Tec and/or Taurus 22's and see how they compare to this $400 piece.

I DO think the flaw here is the magazine and not the gun itself, despite the polymer slide and other design quirks. So....that's nice, I guess.

Glock factory magazines were once the best you could get and 3rd party mags were always inferior. Now, I'm praying for some 3rd party magazine designs.

Depending on how things go next week, I may be sending the gun back to Glock.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 07:56 PM (d1uFV)

145 0 a Weaselbell Production????

Pretty damned ballsy if you ask me.
Not a Bluewease Production?
Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (axyOa)
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That'd work!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 07:56 PM (MVjcR)

146 Neck injury has kept me off the range and ski hill. In my downtime I put together a 10.5" Palmetto AR chambered in 762x39. Two days later my neighbor texts me "you want a box of 762x39 for $100" I say hell yes. Turned out to be Norinco in the yellow box. 1000 rounds for a dime apiece ? ya gotta love it.

Posted by: ck at February 09, 2020 07:57 PM (GXRoa)

147 a Weaselbell Production????

Pretty damned ballsy if you ask me.

Not a Bluewease Production?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2020 07:55 PM (axyOa)

A Shivwebell Production.

Posted by: Vendette at February 09, 2020 07:57 PM (wdsO9)

148 I always put 12Ga. in the slot that says sex on the 4473.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 07:59 PM (UUkQp)

149 Gonna guess that's a dummy/practice round. I have some in .22lr that look similar.

Posted by: Monty Hall at February 09, 2020 07:59 PM (/LQkF)

150 Lots of new nics tonight! Welcome!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:00 PM (MVjcR)

151 Average Guy, on the no. 5 Jungle Carbine, First, verify that it is truly a no. 5--it will have a bolt with the a hole in the bolt knob and the bolt should be matching. There are also lightening cuts if you dismount the receiver (also believed to cause the receiver to flex more--hence the wandering zero--Lee Enfields lock from the rear). It should have a micrometer sight on the rear rather than the cheaper flip ap sight.

If it has Sante Fe as the importer on it, then it is probably a converted no. 4. In that case, hack away. A few other importers were known for putting together rifles from parts. Not advisable to fire unless you know a bit about Lee Enfields.

The flash hider is on there for good reason--you will get a lot of muzzle flash from a .303 in a short barrel like the jungle carbine and pretty heavy recoil to boot.

It might also be a Malaysian No. 5 where they removed bayonet lugs on them for police service.

Personally, I would leave it as is--these are a mediocre sporting rifle and Lee Enfields are a pain to accurize due to the two piece stock etc. Read up on Roger Wadham's book about it. As a result, you will spend money to have a rifle worth less than when you started even without the bayonet lug. If it is a fake No. 5 (marked no. 4 on the receiver for example) then hack away.

Second, keep the stock and do not sporterize it if you do decide to chop it up. You are better off selling the stock and buying a ATI polymer stock or the copious amounts of no. 4 cut forends with a replacement buttstock. No. 5 stocks in complete condition are bringing pretty good prices on Ebay etc. from folks restoring them.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 08:00 PM (EUDB2)

152 > have you been to the range?

Yes, just today.

Learning the mysteries of the Glock 42 trigger.

Had my best (most accurate) session with it yet. That lesson is helping.

Posted by: ArthurK at February 09, 2020 08:01 PM (H+nmG)

153 A Shivwebell Production.
Posted by: Vendette

***

Ha!
Sigh.
Kinda gets ya...right here...

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2020 08:01 PM (axyOa)

154 Hope everyone who wants to attend the VA MOME can go. They are tremendous FUN! The only odd thing is there was little political talk. It wasn't forbidden or anything, just everybody was talking about other matters. And the time really flies by.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 08:02 PM (7EjX1)

155 Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 08:00 PM (EUDB2)
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Solid advice. Thank you whig!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:02 PM (MVjcR)

156 pew pew pew

bzzt bzzzt bzzzzzt

bang bang bang

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 09, 2020 08:02 PM (G546f)

157 After the fiasco of the Glock 42 introduction I'm amazed that Glock has more-or-less done the same thing with the 44.

I guess that's the NEW NORMAL for Glock.

Perfection, my ass.

Posted by: ArthurK at February 09, 2020 08:03 PM (H+nmG)

158 Guns you own can be shipped directly to
manufacturers (who obviously are FFLs), and back to you, no local FFL
required. FedEx is your best or only option on that, IIRC. Have sent
revolvers to Colt and to SW.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 07:32 PM (El6T/)

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it varies by state and by manufacturer... check with your local FFL, who should know the details, or check with a lawyer. it'll be cheaper than paying to defend yourself in court.

Browning won't ship our Superposed back to us (if they ever get the barrel back and finish refurbishing the set ) except through a regular FFL.

my CnR wasn't good enough, even though the gun is now fifty.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 08:03 PM (BOpNY)

159 I'm trying to figure out if I can drive to MN by way of VA and hit the MoMe.

Seems a bit out of the way, though, being as I'm starting in CA.

Probably just have to wait for the TX MoMe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (WEBkv)

160 what's the deal with the Glock 42 trigger?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (G546f)

161 One of my most cherished items is a copy of The Deplorable Gourmet book, autographed by bluebell and Weasel, won at last year's PacNWMoMe.

One corner is starting to look a little worse for wear, however there are no spatters, drips, or spots on the pages yet.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (sy5kK)

162 Facebook had a couple of posts about Mayor Pete being suspected of killing five local dogs when he was a teenager. One post had a copy of the newspaper article. I went back to take a second look and they are all gone. Wonder if this is the Biden or Bernie campaigns attacking?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (Lqy/e)

163 Klaatu told those DC Deep State rubes that the hinky-looking gizmo he pulled out was a peaceful gift to Humans, but as everyone on the AoSHQ Gun Thread can tell, it's a Mark 2,633,902 full-auto quark pistol! So, as Weasel says, the correct move is to put a cap in ET's ass, not wing him!

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2020 08:05 PM (AMIL/)

164 161 One of my most cherished items is a copy of The Deplorable Gourmet book, autographed by bluebell and Weasel, won at last year's PacNWMoMe.

One corner is starting to look a little worse for wear, however there are no spatters, drips, or spots on the pages yet.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (sy5kK)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:05 PM (MVjcR)

165 160 what's the deal with the Glock 42 trigger?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (G546f)

It's fine?

The G42 is teeny tiny, though. And you need to grip it hard. But the Nurse can shoot it very well, better than her Glock 19 on some days.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:05 PM (d1uFV)

166 Mark, sorry to hear about the Glock 44.

My only contribution is to report that I've had an M&P-22 for a few years now, and it's been great.

Obviously based on the S&W M&P line. I use 10-rd mags (Idiotifornia). Have tried all my .22 ammo - common stuff, Federal and Remington - and no problems. Once in a while, failure to eject/stovepipe, or failure to feed, but rare (and probably part of the deal with .22 semis).

Trigger works for me. Shoots quite well. Able to plink an 8-inch steel plate at 50 yds without too much trouble.

So for those looking for a fun .22 semi pistol, consider the M&P.

In Idiotifornia, of course, it's not on the "roster", so you'll have to buy it in a private sale. I got mine a few months before it dropped off the list.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:06 PM (El6T/)

167 If it has Sante Fe as the importer on it, then it is probably a converted no. 4. In that case, hack away.
---
actually, rifles marked with Santa Fe as the maker are a minor niche collector's item, as the receivers were made by a company in Pasadena, CA, of all places, with the parts coming from overseas...

i'll have to re-do all the research, write it up and send it in for consideration, but there is a long line of inter related people and companies that spans a fair amount of time, post war.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 08:07 PM (BOpNY)

168 " VIA, how do you want your boy's name badge to read?"

Oh boy.

By Moron tradition, I think we all refer on line to our children as 'Little" or 'Little XXX"

So for this time around, probably Little VIA will work

I assume that at some point he will branch out and chose his own form of recognition.

And Vendette....he is at least as tall as I am, if not a little bit taller now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 08:08 PM (tT0V4)

169 So, as Weasel says, the correct move is to put a cap in ET's ass, not wing him!
Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2020 08:05 PM

Gort! Baradus. Nickto...ooowww!!! WTF!!!???
Damnit. Fry that little earth asshat!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2020 08:08 PM (axyOa)

170 The G42 is teeny tiny, though. And you need to grip it hard. But the Nurse can shoot it very well, better than her Glock 19 on some days.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

oh right I've seen video of it misfiring when the grip is loose

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 09, 2020 08:08 PM (G546f)

171

i'll have to re-do all the research, write it up and send it in for consideration, but there is a long line of inter related people and companies that spans a fair amount of time, post war.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 08:07 PM (BOpNY)
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Please do!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:08 PM (MVjcR)

172 A Shivwebell Production.
Posted by: Vendette at February 09, 2020 07:57 PM (wdsO9)

"Shivwebel" sounds like a German NCO rank.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:09 PM (t+qrx)

173 Maybe I should go to the little locally owned place I know.

Question, I have an old WWI era shotgun. If it took it to the FFL to check it out, would they record that info?

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 08:09 PM (MTxDQ)

174 Twitter claims the Mayor Pete story is bogus. But who would put something like that out?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 09, 2020 08:09 PM (Lqy/e)

175 I hear you on buying ammo Weasel. In my case, I am looking to add a faster reloading press and buy reloading supplies. I am also planning on standardizing on a fewer number of cartridges. Oddball cartridges are the first to go in the event of a gun panic.

Acquired a fun old revolver now, a Colt New Service which is one of the last of the breed just before WWII. It probably has prior govt. service due to markings and states but will have to have it lettered from Colt to find out. It is one big chunk of metal and mine is a .38 SPC which won't phase it a bit. Has a little holster wear but otherwise excellent condition including timing.

Wish I could come to your MoMe but probably won't be able to make it as work schedule is bad at that time of year for me. Thanks for doing it though.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 08:10 PM (EUDB2)

176 Shivwebel" sounds like a German NCO rank.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:09 PM (t+qrx)

So if I show up at the NoVaMoMe with three stripes on my glass, do others have to salute me?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (axyOa)

177 Thanks, Hairyback & whig. I don't have the gun in possession at the moment, but I did confirm that it's a true jungle carbine last time I saw it. Don't recall where it was made. I don't even know if my dad got it after he immigrated to the US (1961). He may have gotten it in Holland or in his native Indonesia. I seem to recall Indonesia, but that's based on childhood memories which may have romanticized things a bit.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (BaHwF)

178 MAE, when I finally get the Kel-Tec P-17, I'll let you know what I think. I don't have your technical knowledge so take what I say as a rookie. It was pretty inexpensive at $199.00 MSRP, and that's what I paid for it with three magazines.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (VNmG1)

179
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 08:10 PM (EUDB2)
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Sorry you can't make it!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (MVjcR)

180 Depending on how things go next week, I may be sending the gun back to Glock.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 07:56 PM (d1uFV)

That's a bummer. Maybe there's a fix for the mags, or if this is happening to enough people, maybe Glock will address the problem. Still, when you buy a new gun, the damn thing should work. Period.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (FRGnP)

181 Good info/advice from redc - check the situation in your state, and with the manufacturer/gunsmith/etc in question.

I don't think the *federal* situation is in question - if you own a firearm, it can return directly to you from another party (esp. an FFL) to whom it was sent for service/etc.

But as firearms are a uniquely abandoned/abused part of the constitutional/civil rights landscape, states and municipalities as yet have pretty free reign in harassing and wronging firearm owners.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (El6T/)

182 Oh boy.

By Moron tradition, I think we all refer on line to our children as 'Little" or 'Little XXX"

So for this time around, probably Little VIA will work

I assume that at some point he will branch out and chose his own form of recognition.

And Vendette....he is at least as tall as I am, if not a little bit taller now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 08:08 PM (tT0V4)

How about a badge moniker of "Best Thing the VIAs Ever Did"?

Posted by: Vendette at February 09, 2020 08:12 PM (wdsO9)

183 When you go to a flying saucer welcoming, take a good first-surface mirror.

Posted by: klaftern at February 09, 2020 08:13 PM (RuIsu)

184 I seem to recall Indonesia, but that's based on childhood memories which may have romanticized things a bit.
Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (BaHwF)

Yup....I think the Indonesians used them with their police units back in the day.

Which adds another wrinkle....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2020 08:13 PM (Z+IKu)

185 "How about a badge moniker of "Best Thing the VIAs Ever Did"?"

Well, that could work too.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 08:14 PM (tT0V4)

186 Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (VNmG1)

I'd love to hear it, sir. More eyes on that gun, the better.

I may buy one myself, and the Taurus TX 16, for comparison

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)

187 Thanks for your admonition to buy guns and ammo Weazel! I took the new Kel-tek 9mm rifle to the indoor range. I hit the target a couple of times through the 100 rounds of Federal 115gr. 500 rounds of Sellier and Belloit and 500 of Fiochi 124gr arrived last week and I'll be going back to the range this week. Hopefully I'll hit the aim point more often.

Posted by: AZ carries truck guns at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (kp35W)

188
TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (MVjcR)

189 Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (FRGnP)

From your lips to God's ears, brother.

Magazine problems are more fixable than a flaw in the gun itself, though.

Just feels like the first real flop from Glock

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (d1uFV)

190 whig, reloading is great for many reasons. Would think a serious gun hobbyist/tinkerer like you would enjoy it and exploit all the advantages. I have no oddball calibers, but several expensive ones (30-06, 30 carbine, 54R), and reloading takes all the sting out of that situation. Plus it's fun. Actually my pile of Soviet 54R surplus is so big that reloading that lies in the distance, if ever. Though I probably should start, since I hear tell one can make very nice accurate but softer-recoiling rounds.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (El6T/)

191
Posted by: AZ carries truck guns at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (kp35W)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:16 PM (MVjcR)

192
TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM

cottage cheese

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2020 08:16 PM (LaL6t)

193 There's nothing unusual about missing dogs.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at February 09, 2020 08:17 PM (EgshT)

194 Mark Andrew Edwards @ 144- Dang, bro. I still ain't shot my G44 yet, and appreciate your input about only loading 9 rounds so....what I intend to do is run say a thousand rounds through the mags and see how that shakes out.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:17 PM (UUkQp)

195
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2020 08:16 PM (LaL6t)
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Bzzzztt.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (MVjcR)

196 Question, I have an old WWI era shotgun. If it took it to the FFL to check it out, would they record that info?

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 08:09 PM (MTxDQ)

No, never, of course not. Trust me.

Posted by: Bob not Bob from NSA at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (cNlpM)

197 That cartridge looks like a .36 Thuer cartridge, the first for the Model 1851 and 1861
Navy percussion revolver conversions

Posted by: trainer at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (7EbAY)

198 189 Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (FRGnP)

From your lips to God's ears, brother.

Magazine problems are more fixable than a flaw in the gun itself, though.

Just feels like the first real flop from Glock
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (d1uFV)

True enough. It is rather jarring to see Glock step on their dick like this.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (FRGnP)

199 A .22 revolver with 8 to 10 round cylinder is the least aggravating of .22 hand guns. Ruger makes a 10 round model.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

200 Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:17 PM (UUkQp)

Let me know how it works for you.

I plan at least one more good session with the bucket o bullets since it seems fairly ammo-neutral.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (d1uFV)

201 Have two multi-caliber AR receivers awaiting builds, but now this pistol-caliber carbine teen craze has me wanting to slap together a 9mikemike carbine, using the dedicated type of receiver. Have seen some really sweet home-builts at the range. Light, accurate, easy to shoot.

And one guy had that Ruger 9mm PCC with the heat shield that makes it look very much like a PPsh-41. He had an $18 red-dot on it. Could hold it on the steel plate @ 50 yds and "shoot, ding! shoot, ding!" until the mag ran dry. Ridiculous. More like a video game than real shooting.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (El6T/)

202 Posted by: Bob not Bob from NSA

Bless your heart.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (MTxDQ)

203 One corner is starting to look a little worse for wear, however there are no spatters, drips, or spots on the pages yet.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:04 PM (sy5kK)
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Well you better get cooking then. A cookbook isn't truly loved unless it's got splatters and spills all over it. Bonus points if the pages stick together.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (/669Q)

204 199 A .22 revolver with 8 to 10 round cylinder is the least aggravating of .22 hand guns. Ruger makes a 10 round model.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

If they weren't $600, I would have bought one

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (d1uFV)

205 gotta go get ready for the Legal Insurrection pow-wow down in the ghetto on West Pico, and it's been raining here, so traffic is likely FUBAR.

if nothing else, i'll have to slow down my usual style a bit...

i'm gonna wear my Deplorable Veterans for Trump t-shirt, so the HQ will be in the house, as it were.

see all y'all here next week, or on the ONT later.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2020 08:20 PM (BOpNY)

206 I have a Beretta Neo that I'm not thrilled with. No double tapping without a chance of malfunction.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

207 >>Twitter claims the Mayor Pete story is bogus. But who would put something like that out?
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Not me. I would have accused him of killing dog faced pony soldiers.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 09, 2020 08:20 PM (2cuLk)

208 Did you know night vision scopes are illegal and not sold in the people's republic of California? Can I get one in AZ if I'm a CA resident?
We've got some coyote hunting to do.
See yesterday's Pet Thread to find out why.

Posted by: keena at February 09, 2020 08:21 PM (RiTnx)

209 West Pico? Gilbert's El Indio, my favorite border Mex stand-by when I need to jump off the 405 while transiting Smell A, redc.

Please give a report on the ONT - gun-related meeting?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:21 PM (El6T/)

210 And one guy had that Ruger 9mm PCC with the heat shield that makes it look very much like a PPsh-41. He had an $18 red-dot on it. Could hold it on the steel plate @ 50 yds and "shoot, ding! shoot, ding!" until the mag ran dry. Ridiculous. More like a video game than real shooting.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (El6T/)

It moved

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)

211 Mark, hope you saw my M&P-22 comment (pistol, not rifle). Relevant to your topic with the Glock.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:22 PM (El6T/)

212 I would love to follow the mantra of BUY AMMO but once again NYC has a ridiculous law.One cannot have more than 200 rounds on ones premises.
Not 200 rounds per gun, or 200 rounds of different calibers.
200 Rounds.
Period.
(grumble grumble grumble grumble)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 08:23 PM (KVbKA)

213 My only gun is a 9 shot .22lr revolver. It's a good gun but not a gun for concealed carry.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 09, 2020 08:23 PM (Lqy/e)

214 -------
I was wrestling earlier with a PDF of a Weaver B4/B6 advertisement brochure, but gave up and left it out. New, they were $7 and $9, respectively. I left it out because it was depressing.
Posted by: Weasel
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I just went looking for ~~my my father's 1961 Shooters Digest, which would have a price, but, of course, it's not where it is supposed to be, so couldn't find it.~~

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:23 PM (xSo9G)

215 Crap. Tag fail.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:24 PM (xSo9G)

216 Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:22 PM (El6T/)

I did! Thank you for the comment.
I owned a M&P 22 for a while. Wish I'd kept it.
The version I had kept failing to feed but other folks have reported it to be very reliable.

I think I just had a lemon.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:24 PM (d1uFV)

217 186 Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2020 08:11 PM (VNmG1)

I'd love to hear it, sir. More eyes on that gun, the better.

I may buy one myself, and the Taurus TX 16, for comparison
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 09, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)

Mark, I'm busy on the 15th, but the following week if you are shooting, hopefully with nurse and other morons, I will commit to showing up at your Saturday morning gathering with my Walther P-22. I love this little sucker, and it is dependable as all get out.

And it would be fun to compare your Ruger Mark IV with my Ruger Mark II.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:24 PM (sy5kK)

218 How about you all? Do you take economics into strict account when making decisions like this

I do. I've found some perfectly good .45-70 Gov't ammo of my Dad's that I don't want to let go to waste, and am thinking I'll buy the Henry side-gate lever action so that I can use it. Also to annoy a neighbor who insists on Sunday afternoon 9mm practice.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2020 08:25 PM (aKxkI)

219 Red dot on the Ruger PCC was a Feyachi Reflex sight.

I am a recently emerged Stone Age primitive from a valley in New Guinea when it comes to optics (have none), have often found red dots hard to use (acquiring the dot quickly/easily).

This thing, just put the rifle up to your shoulder, with as much relief as you please, or just move around - dot was there instantly, never lost it.

Am thinking when I get around to finally building my generic 100-yd AR, I might go crazy and put this $18 red dot on it, just to live large.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:25 PM (El6T/)

220 "I would love to follow the mantra of BUY AMMO but once again NYC has a ridiculous law.One cannot have more than 200 rounds on ones premises.
Not 200 rounds per gun, or 200 rounds of different calibers.
200 Rounds.
Period."

How in the hell, does that even come close to passing constitutional scrutiny?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 08:27 PM (tT0V4)

221 TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel

3M Performance Plus Nuclear Duct Tape?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 08:28 PM (Y4EXg)

222

KL93

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2020 08:28 PM (aKsyK)

223 TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel

3M Performance Plus Nuclear Duct Tape?
Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 08:28 PM (Y4EXg)
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Bzzzzzt!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:29 PM (MVjcR)

224 212 I would love to follow the mantra of BUY AMMO but once again NYC has a ridiculous law.One cannot have more than 200 rounds on ones premises.
Not 200 rounds per gun, or 200 rounds of different calibers.
200 Rounds.
Period.
(grumble grumble grumble grumble)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 08:23 PM (KVbKA)

whoa.

I'm guessing that moving trucks are available for rent in NYC.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:29 PM (sy5kK)

225 I would like to see a gub thread with a partial devotion to red dots. There are so many possibilities that it is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. Personal observations would be informative.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (CDGwz)

226

KL93
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2020 08:28 PM (aKsyK)
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a WINNER!!
KL93. The product was KL93.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

227 I would love to follow the mantra of BUY AMMO but once again NYC has a ridiculous law.One cannot have more than 200 rounds on ones premises. Not 200 rounds per gun, or 200 rounds of different calibers. 200 Rounds. Period.
(grumble grumble grumble grumble)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

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My hat's off to you Sir. I couldn't live there.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (Y4EXg)

228 48
Boulder t'hobo:

27th Infantry regiment, the Wolfhounds, 25th Tropic Lightning division.

Posted by: Kazi at February 09, 2020 07:20 PM (0x00j)

I mentioned them the other night. Had a buddy who was with them. Went to a school a with him. He was with them for Tet/68. He was a direct commission to 1st LT. He could put some beer away.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (f4xAl)

229 167, Santa Fe and some of the other worse folks like Federal Ordnance, Bannerman, etc. have uneven quality control and some folks have had problems with them. Bannerman made some frankenguns that were pipe bombs waiting to happen and you still see some people obliviously shooting and bragging about them. Federal Ordnance made some stinky receivers that have kaboomed on folks in the 1903. Others have used rewelded receivers, fire damaged receivers, and some chambered these surplus rifle receivers in inappropriate cartridges.

Part of the issue was that a lot of times the importers mixed commercial aftermarket parts with original surplus which made suckers of a lot of folks thinking they were buying collectibles.

Nearly 100 years later, some folks collect hideous Bannerman frankenguns, some get the Garands that have been rewelded or using soft cast receivers, and some get kabooms like the Federal Ordnance 1903's which had substandard receivers because the rest of the parts are new GI issue looking pretty good. I'm sure that some folks collect Mitchell's Mausers which at least are safe if of dubious historical value. From what I recollect, Santa Fe made some sporters out of Mausers, and the fake Jungle Carbines.

From what I've seen at auctions, the faux model brings about what a poor grade original milsurp no. 5 would bring that was a wall hanger. There are a lot of sporterized military rifles right not going for parts salvage prices as the large parts warehouse run dry of original spare parts.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (EUDB2)

230 scuba_dude @ 212- 200 rounds? Dude, I got 200 rounds sitting on my desk next to the mousepad.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (UUkQp)

231 Pete's dog story is fakenews, generated from a fake newspaper generated.

On the other hand, Trump's RUSSIAN COLLUSION story was fakenews too and Pete (being a sissy) did nothing to counter that, so screw him with Hunter's own dildo.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 08:31 PM (ykYG2)

232 I was going to guess FlexTape.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:31 PM (CDGwz)

233 I SAWED THIS ROBOT IN HALF!

Posted by: Phil Swift at February 09, 2020 08:31 PM (aKsyK)

234 VIA, what you said - but seriously, how 98% of *all* gun laws across the country survive any constitutional scrutiny is not a mystery, more like a definitive condemnation of our system. It's laughable. Even using the absurd, let's-make-up-our-own-powers "level of scrutiny" garbage the courts have invented for rewriting the constitution - very hard to think of a law that passes *any* level.

I well recall the counsel of "patience" when Heller came down. That it would take some time to filter down through the "system".

Um.

Not only is there no "filtering down" apparent - there is outright contemptuous defiance of SCOTUS.

Not our topic, but this and other examples are why I am thrilled but completely skeptical about all the judicial appointments. The *system* is off the rails. Changing personnel might be - might be - a band-aid, but it's a battlefield expedient, not a "fix".

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (El6T/)

235 225 I would like to see a gub thread with a partial devotion to red dots. There are so many possibilities that it is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. Personal observations would be informative.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:30 PM (CDGwz)
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I have a Trijicon ACOG on an AR, but that's it. I have a buddy with red dots on all sorts of things so maybe we can do that. Thanks for the suggestion.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (MVjcR)

236
Well you better get cooking then. A cookbook isn't truly loved unless it's got splatters and spills all over it. Bonus points if the pages stick together.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (/669Q)

and this doesn't look like a request.

*immediately pulls Deplorable Gourmet cookbook off shelf and starts reading*

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (sy5kK)

237 I have pretty close to 200 rounds in the car right now.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (ZfRYq)

238 How in the hell, does that even come close to passing constitutional scrutiny?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 08:27 PM (tT0V4)
This is the Peoples Republic of New York City, ain't no constitution here!!It is possible this is aimed at dealers but you know how something passed for one thing will be used for something else, right?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (KVbKA)

239 190 ... rhomboid, That was a great summation about the advantages of reloading. Especially the softer shooting but accurate part for otherwise powerful rifle cartridges. My 'oddball' stuff is mostly just not popular but still available, like 22 Hornet, 222 Remington and 41 Magnum. Reloading takes the sting out of those ammo prices.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (7EjX1)

240 Only 200 rounds total?

Jeez, poor Scuba Dude.

Eff NYC!

Posted by: JQ, bawdy broad at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (gP/Z3)

241 TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel

Carbonite!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (KVbKA)

242 When you go to a flying saucer welcoming, take a good first-surface mirror.
Posted by: klaftern
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*reflects on the comment*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (CDGwz)

243 I just registered for NoVaMoMe2020. It is an eight mile drive for me (16-29 minutes, depending on traffic) See you there.

Posted by: RTW at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (jJlJu)

244
As for the Space Force name, rocketeer is the only thing that sounds halfway decent to me. This is all going to have to decided and codified before all the personnel can be transferred to the new service branch.

It turns out there is only one real, official member of the Space Force, and that's the commander, who is called the Chief of Space Operations, CSO. This is at the Joint Chiefs of Staff level. Note this parallels the Navy, with the Chief of Naval Operations.

He's a 4-star general. So it seems "general" will the term for the flag level officers, but that's not set in stone.

Sci-fi, ala Star Trek seems to go with naval ranks, and not army style. If we ever have actual military space ships, then I'd say go with naval style.

Anyway, all this is up in the air for the Space Force, and the Pentagon has crowdsourced this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (f1Vqw)

245 243 I just registered for NoVaMoMe2020. It is an eight mile drive for me (16-29 minutes, depending on traffic) See you there.
Posted by: RTW at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (jJlJu)
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Great! Look forward to meeting you!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:36 PM (MVjcR)

246 At this point I could probably shoot ammo every day for the rest of my life and not get back down to 200 rounds.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 09, 2020 08:37 PM (rbsTB)

247 Hey everybody, again.

On Twitter, someone asked Ricky Gervais what his opening joke would be if he were hosting the Oscars tonight. He responded:

"I can't wait to hear all your inspirational speeches about equality, and it's great that the 3 hours you're here tonight is the only time your badly paid migrant house staff will get some time off to sleep this week"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2020 08:37 PM (L2ZTs)

248 It turns out there is only one real, official member of the Space Force, and that's the commander, who is called the Chief of Space Operations, CSO.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 08:34 PM (f1Vqw)

Oh man, that sounds like a sweet gig right there. I'd be establishing traditions left and right. Nobody would be there to stop me.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

249 22 Hornet, 222 Remington and 41 Magnum. Reloading takes the sting out of those ammo prices.
Posted by: JTB
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Heh. .222 Mag can be had, but at ~$1.25/rnd.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2020 08:38 PM (CDGwz)

250 Oh man, that sounds like a sweet gig right there. I'd be establishing traditions left and right. Nobody would be there to stop me.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

Banging hot green space chicks would be top of the list.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 08:38 PM (ZfRYq)

251 Mike Hammer, I have an Eotec, a Mepro, and several other brands all on long guns. Not a fan of red dots on handguns. And one day....maybe ....Weasel will bequeath me his ACOG.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:39 PM (UUkQp)

252 Late to the party, being looking at bayonets. Virginia has thought to ban those, have they. They don't like it up them.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 09, 2020 08:40 PM (bgJ0E)

253 Sci-fi, ala Star Trek seems to go with naval ranks, and not army style. If we ever have actual military space ships, then I'd say go with naval style.

Anyway, all this is up in the air for the Space Force, and the Pentagon has crowdsourced this.
Posted by: publius

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I'll lose my mind if "Boaty McBoatface" wins.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 08:40 PM (Y4EXg)

254 251 Mike Hammer, I have an Eotec, a Mepro, and several other brands all on long guns. Not a fan of red dots on handguns. And one day....maybe ....Weasel will bequeath me his ACOG.
Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:39 PM (UUkQp)
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They are stupidly expensive, but very nice. You all might have guessed by now, but I have a thing for rifles and riflescopes!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

255 I like "space cadet" for the nubie space force troops

Posted by: RTW at February 09, 2020 08:41 PM (jJlJu)

256 First I want to clarify the 200 round limit is what I am hearing and a couple blogs mentioned it. I have been trying to find the law that specifically is for individuals and not gun stores but have not found it yet.

One last rant.
So in shopping for my rifle I thought that I would have not problem getting a rifle that held at maximum 10 rounds.
No, the limit is 5 rounds.
It does not matter if it is a bolt action rifle or a little .22, the limit is 5 rounds.
So there goes my owning a lever action rifle or (this hurts the worst) I would not be able to own a Garand. 3 rounds over the limit.
Fucking NYC.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 08:42 PM (KVbKA)

257 252 Late to the party, being looking at bayonets. Virginia has thought to ban those, have they. They don't like it up them.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 09, 2020 08:40 PM (bgJ0E)
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Haven't heard about that. More stuff to take to the farm I suppose.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:42 PM (MVjcR)

258 Publius @ 244- Of course, it's a nobrainer for space force to be Naval ranks/terminology. Naturally there would be Space Marines too, and SeaBees, but that goes without saying.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:43 PM (UUkQp)

259 I forgot the has not banned part. oppsie.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 09, 2020 08:43 PM (bgJ0E)

260 OK first off, the rank is "General" and the term of address is "Sky Marshal of the Terran Federation".

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:43 PM (t+qrx)

261
no one suggested "Starship Troopers" for the Space Force moniker?

it's like I don't know you people anymore

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2020 08:44 PM (LaL6t)

262
I well recall the counsel of "patience" when Heller came down. That it would take some time to filter down through the "system".

Um.

Not only is there no "filtering down" apparent - there is outright contemptuous defiance of SCOTUS.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (El6T/)

Yes, unfortunately. We are witnessing in plain sight the contemptuous defiance (I LIKE that phrase - appropriate) of the Constitution by the Democrats in the House. During the Shampeachment, they would not allow the President to call witnesses, or any basic protections that we call "rights".

This continues now with state level legislators ignoring obvious 2A rights in these new draconian laws being proposed and passed.

I spit on the faces of these seditious pond scum.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 08:44 PM (sy5kK)

263 No gun stuff to report, but I did just win an old axe head on ebay. This is something I really need, since I 1) don't ever really use an axe 2) already own two full-sized axes, and 3) have an elbow injury that limits how much I can use it and doesn't want to heal, so I can't even use an axe just now.

The twist is that this is a Kentucky or North Carolina pattern head, one of the old-school shapes that are no longer manufactured. Unmarked, so not a big collectors item, but seems to me to be in decent condition, though I may need to re-profile the edge some.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2020 08:44 PM (nBq51)

264 Late to the party, being looking at bayonets. Virginia has thought to ban those, have they. They don't like it up them.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 09, 2020 08:40 PM (bgJ0E)

It's the cold steel, sir.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:44 PM (t+qrx)

265 first off, the rank is "General" and the term of address is "Sky Marshal of the Terran Federation".

I would like to know more.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 08:44 PM (ykYG2)

266 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 09, 2020 08:43 PM (bgJ0E)
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I was going to get my gunsmith to but a bayonet lug on a match rifle but he refused.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:45 PM (MVjcR)

267 Oh man, that sounds like a sweet gig right there.
I'd be establishing traditions left and right. Nobody would be there to
stop me.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

Just think, you would also have a say in the uniforms of the female crew. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 08:46 PM (KVbKA)

268 In the army, Buttigieg was a lying, dog-faced ponyboy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 08:46 PM (uKj5K)

269 I really enjoy shooting .22's, I compete in .22 Steel Challenge the first Saturday of each month, using a heavy barrel Browning Buckmark with a decent Burris Red dot sight and a S&W M&P AR-15-22 with a red/green dot sight and have a lot of fun going through at least 500 rounds of .22 ammo each month.

I am old now, in my mid 70s and only shoot 20 ga. for skeet and birds, I still pad my shoulder and work up various hi-power rifle scope combinations but the most fun I am having is shooting .22 LR, we have about a dozen who compete each month and I was surprise to win 3rd place in both pistol and rifle for the year at the end of 2019. My suggestion to old gun guys is to get out and shoot as often as possible and have a lot of fun.

PS, I am also on my church security team here in Texas just because.

Posted by: OldTexan at February 09, 2020 08:47 PM (YnpDw)

270 268 In the army, Buttigieg was a lying, dog-faced ponyboy.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 08:46 PM (uKj5K)

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He was Navy Reserve, not Army.

Posted by: SMH at February 09, 2020 08:48 PM (RU4sa)

271 269 I really enjoy shooting .22's, I compete in .22 Steel Challenge the first Saturday of each month, using a heavy barrel Browning Buckmark with a decent Burris Red dot sight and a S&W M&P AR-15-22 with a red/green dot sight and have a lot of fun going through at least 500 rounds of .22 ammo each month.

I am old now, in my mid 70s and only shoot 20 ga. for skeet and birds, I still pad my shoulder and work up various hi-power rifle scope combinations but the most fun I am having is shooting .22 LR, we have about a dozen who compete each month and I was surprise to win 3rd place in both pistol and rifle for the year at the end of 2019. My suggestion to old gun guys is to get out and shoot as often as possible and have a lot of fun.

PS, I am also on my church security team here in Texas just because.
Posted by: OldTexan at February 09, 2020 08:47 PM (YnpDw)
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Nice, OldTexan! Congratulations! It's very nice to have you here.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:49 PM (MVjcR)

272 He was Navy Reserve, not Army.
Posted by: SMH

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There's a seaman joke in there somewhere but nah.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 08:49 PM (Y4EXg)

273 Old Texan, you rock!

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:50 PM (UUkQp)

274 Guess I will go ask and depending on the answer, will find other means.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 08:50 PM (MTxDQ)

275 In the army, Buttigieg was a lying, dog-faced ponyboy.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 08:46 PM (uKj5K)

Here's his theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33-AiWfVPvk

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 09, 2020 08:50 PM (aS1PU)

276 There's a seaman joke in there somewhere but nah.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 08:49 PM (Y4EXg)

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Heh.

I thought about it too.

Posted by: SMH at February 09, 2020 08:50 PM (RU4sa)

277 How in the hell, does that even come close to passing constitutional scrutiny?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 08:27 PM (tT0V4)

Gulliver's Travels.
The State intends to bind the citizens with millions of tiny "cords", any one of which is of no (or limited) consequence. The State has infinite judicial (tax-payer) resources to defend each cord, while the mere citizen has extremely limited resources to defend himself against the plethora of "very reasonable" safety laws/regulations!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 09, 2020 08:51 PM (BiNEL)

278 I did a quick search could that be a lipfire cartridge? According to the site I am looking on, they were available in .36 caliber. Looks similar.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 08:51 PM (oXJmp)

279 Still on the fence about the NOVaMoMe (thanks for the info, bluebell!) it's about a 10 hour drive one way for me and I get skeered thinking about it and say why don't I just stay in my nice little house.

But I do have a Smith and Wesson M and P compact 40 for courage. I took it on my solo road trip to South Dakota a couple years ago.

Posted by: skywch at February 09, 2020 08:52 PM (IWvy/)

280 Took little Nerada out and got a bakers dozen of quail. Grilled them up with some bacon just hours after they were flying. Yum.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 09, 2020 08:52 PM (LREjS)

281 Hi! SMH @ 276- Ain't the Navy's fault. Lotta cornholing in Indiana, I hear.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:53 PM (UUkQp)

282 Didn't think to ask, shoulda, earlier: anyone here load 45 Colt for lever action (standard, low pressures, reproduction rifle toggle action)? Any favorite loads for a 250-g plated bullet?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

283 Posted by: DR.WTF at February 09, 2020 08:50 PM (aS1PU)

Heh, I was expecting YMCA.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 08:53 PM (MTxDQ)

284 Bayonet lugs are one of the features that make a semi-auto into an "assault firearm"

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 08:54 PM (ZfRYq)

285 279 Still on the fence about the NOVaMoMe (thanks for the info, bluebell!) it's about a 10 hour drive one way for me and I get skeered thinking about it and say why don't I just stay in my nice little house.

But I do have a Smith and Wesson M and P compact 40 for courage. I took it on my solo road trip to South Dakota a couple years ago.
Posted by: skywch at February 09, 2020 08:52 PM (IWvy/)
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We hope you decide to come. You will meet some amazingly nice people, and me too!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:54 PM (MVjcR)

286 The only good bug is a dead bug.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (oXJmp)

287 skywch, maybe there is a friend or a Moron near you who would like to drive up with you? I hate to think of you driving alone.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (/669Q)

288 Hi Eromero!

I'll refrain from making squid jokes.

Posted by: SMH at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (RU4sa)

289
The Pentagon has ruled out "spaceman" and "space cadet". Not gonna do it. Space cadet has connotations of course.

There is "spacers" though, and that doesn't seem to be ruled out.

The CSO is Gen. John Raymond, formerly an Air Force General.

Again, he is the only official member of the new 6th service branch. He has 16K people transferred under his command, but they are still in the Air Force.

They will not be official spacers until they work all this nomenclature and rank structure out. When it is complete, Navy and Army personnel will be transferred over as well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (rCwaK)

290 284 Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 08:54 PM (ZfRYq)

Drive-by bayonet attacks are a horrific reminder of Jim Crow....
//Joe "Corn-Pop" Biden

Posted by: sven at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (xbWHd)

291 The current version drops the "assault rifle" registration nonsense, but
still prohibits new sales and makes owning suppressors and magazines
with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, a felony.

IIRC, according to an appeals court ruling, you may safely ignore any unconstitutional law which claims to be able to take away your Constitutional rights. Such laws are nullity and don't exist as far as the law is concerned.

The only felony involved with above VA law is the one committed by the Governor, Bloomberg, and the Democrats in the legislature when they conspired to oppress Constitutional rights with their Jim Crow law.

It is also a felony for any armed police officer to deprive you of any Constitutional right under color of their new law.

See 18 U.S. Code 241 and 18 U.S. Code 242 for confirmation. The above is for informational purposes only, and does not constitute legal advice. Talk to an attorney about these matters before you take any action.

Posted by: An Observation at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (WaW5y)

292 rhomboid, It is more that I am adding a faster progressive press for reloading certain useful cartridges. I have a single stage, a hand press, and a turret. For most volume reloading, I use a turret right now because I have dies for my most reloaded cartridges on separate turret heads.

I have reloading dies, brass, bullets, powders etc. to reload about twenty or so rifle cartridges for milsurps and other rifles and I purposefully avoid expanding my handguns beyond the 4-5 that I reload for and that do well with reloading.

But, during the last panic, I found that 9mm bullets were hard to obtain as were .223 and .308. So was the ammo, as the shortages worn on, you could not then find the 7.5 Swiss for example or the 6.5 Carcano due to ammo and component mfg. going to the most popular cartridges.

So, I want to make sure that I have plenty of components to reload cartridges that will be in demand during the next shortage and buy adequate stocks of those that cannot be reloaded (.22 LR and .22 WMR). That means concentrating on being able to reload useful cartridges for social occasions in a hurry--that means a progressive press. My lesser toys will have to survive on scant rations in such a panic and I can probably buy them while others are panic buying the popular cartridges. Fortunately, most of my rifles use bullets that work between families--.308, .311, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 08:56 PM (EUDB2)

293 289 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (rCwaK)

My son is in Space Force and getting his basic space badge in the next 30 days....
He is a soldier as it stands, but he will be a proud "Space Cadet" or "Legal Alien."

Posted by: sven at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (xbWHd)

294 9mm Pidault Cordier is my guess

http://cartridge-corner.com/rimiden.htm

Pistol

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vcsog3s

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (6rS3m)

295 Thanks for the great thread Mr. Weasel! Can I request a future thread on load development? Total noob at reloading, and would love some guidance and rules of thumb on the process.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (AZyuK)

296
Hi! SMH @ 276- Ain't the Navy's fault. Lotta cornholing in Indiana, I hear.
Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 08:53 PM (UUkQp)

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Place is a real cornhole, I hear.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (uKj5K)

297 for the odd rimless inside primed pistol cartridge

9mm Pidault Cordier is my guess

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (6rS3m)

298 The U.S. 1903 and 1917 are loaded with a 5 round stripper clip. I suppose they could be loaded with one in the chamber to make 6. The 1898 Kraig holds 5 I think. Would have to check it out. All old bolt actions.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2020 08:58 PM (f4xAl)

299
Huh, And he DOES hail from "South Bend." LOL.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 08:58 PM (uKj5K)

300 The only good bug is a dead bug.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Look, we said that we are sorry. What more do want? Leave us alone !

[They run sobbing from the room, leaving only a faint aroma of soy and arugula]

Posted by: Shadow, Inc. at February 09, 2020 08:58 PM (xSo9G)

301 Dinner every Friday shall be Space Food Sticks, astronaut ice cream, and Tang™.

Also, Friday is the day you field day the moon.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 08:59 PM (t+qrx)

302 Regarding the Mini Ice Age... what freaks me out the most about The Left and their bullshit is if we had some worldwide catastrophe and the only working and obvious solution to save humanity was the exact opposite of Communism, they would do anything they could to make sure we all perished instead.

Posted by: ... at February 09, 2020 08:59 PM (uEbPt)

303 295 Thanks for the great thread Mr. Weasel! Can I request a future thread on load development? Total noob at reloading, and would love some guidance and rules of thumb on the process.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (AZyuK)
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My pleasure! And it's nice to have you here. Were you thinking rifle or pistol? I've been kicking around the idea of writing on rifle load development and tuning.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

304 OldTexan's comment about bruising reminds me. I have three sizes of slip on butt pads for my centerfire rifles. They really take the sting out of recoiling steel buttplates and add about an inch of length of pull which I always need. Between the pad and milder reloads my military surplus rifles are more fun and less painful.

OldTexan has a few years on me but only a few. Bruising is more of a problem than it was thirty years ago.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 09:00 PM (7EjX1)

305 302 Posted by: ... at February 09, 2020 08:59 PM (uEbPt)

Death on a massive scale is a feature not a bug of leftoid dreams....
Plaintiff's one is Stalin's Ukraine.

Posted by: sven at February 09, 2020 09:00 PM (xbWHd)

306 Thanks bluebell and Weasel--I might stay at a hotel halfway to break it up. But if another of the horde nearby wants to ride along, that's a good idea.

Posted by: skywch at February 09, 2020 09:00 PM (IWvy/)

307 202 Posted by: Bob not Bob from NSA

Bless your heart.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 08:19 PM (MTxDQ)

Here's lookin' at you kid.

Posted by: Bob not Bob from NSA at February 09, 2020 09:00 PM (cNlpM)

308 Was given a Colt M-4 in .22cal for Christmas a few years back... all metal, heavy thing... was only $200 on closeout. Got extra mags, bonus!

A friend said "scope it and make a Tactical Poodle Shooter out of it" (And no, I certainly wouldn't harm anyone's pets!!!) but I dunno--

Right now, more concerned with getting practice and carrying, er, *smaller* unit for daily protection.

Posted by: JQ, bawdy broad at February 09, 2020 09:00 PM (gP/Z3)

309
The only felony involved with above VA law is the one committed by the Governor, Bloomberg, and the Democrats in the legislature when they conspired to oppress Constitutional rights with their Jim Crow law.

It is also a felony for any armed police officer to deprive you of any Constitutional right under color of their new law.

See 18 U.S. Code 241 and 18 U.S. Code 242 for confirmation. The above is for informational purposes only, and does not constitute legal advice. Talk to an attorney about these matters before you take any action.
Posted by: An Observation at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM (WaW5y)

18 U.S. Code 241 and 18 U.S. Code 242

This seems a sound legal strategy.

Now, perfect the message, and repeat, repeat, repeat.

thanks, Observation.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 09:01 PM (sy5kK)

310 307 Posted by: Bob not Bob from NSA at February 09, 2020 09:00 PM (cNlpM)

Bob were you let go or retired?
//Sven-over at table 15

Posted by: sven at February 09, 2020 09:01 PM (xbWHd)

311 South Bend, Indiana's sigmoid colon.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 09:02 PM (ykYG2)

312 Astros is my suggestion for what the new Space Force troops should be called
Posted by: Skip

Stealing signs will be a new mission for chirp

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2020 09:02 PM (B7KlG)

313 Ok, I am going to call it a night. Gotta cover for someone this week and then I can start my vacation.
With luck I will be shooting my new rifle during my vacation (if I am permitted to take it out of State).
Thanks again Weasel, I will let you or Bluebell know later this week if I will be able to make the NoVaMoMe.
Have a great week everybody!!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 09:02 PM (KVbKA)

314 One interesting observation while house hunting in South Carolina.

The shear number of homes with gun safes boggles the mind

Either through online photos, or actual visits to properties.

And provided the closing is successful, our next door neighbor is a County Cop.

Really gonna take some effort to start shedding those Maryland mindsets.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 09:03 PM (tT0V4)

315 295 Thanks for the great thread Mr. Weasel! Can I request a future thread on load development? Total noob at reloading, and would love some guidance and rules of thumb on the process.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at February 09, 2020 08:57 PM (AZyuK)

Weasel had a series of posts on exactly this topic a few months back.

It was so good, Weasel should make a book out of it.

I have been told one can search for old threads (CAUTION: DO NOT COMMENT ON OLD THREADS) but I don't know how.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 09:03 PM (sy5kK)

316 @256
First, move out of NYC if you can, but you know this.
But when in NYC I had a guy take a Marlin 1894 with normal capacity (9-11 depending on whether loading .38s or .357s) and you can have the magazine tube "plugged" in a semi permanent way that limits it to 5 rounds.
Then if/when you move out of NYC you can convert it back to the way God intended it.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 09, 2020 09:03 PM (SqopC)

317 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 09, 2020 09:02 PM (KVbKA)
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My pleasure, amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

318 Maybe his name is just Bob and he has no connection to the NSA.

Of course, that's just what BoB WOULD say...

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:04 PM (oXJmp)

319 TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel

Cosmoline?

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 09:05 PM (BaHwF)

320 318 Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:04 PM (oXJmp)

I enjoy peppering my phone conversations with real world friends over the phone with the occasional-
"Bob from the NSA loved seeing you at the pizza barn last week, I am NOT threatening insurrection this afternoon."

Posted by: sven at February 09, 2020 09:07 PM (xbWHd)

321 VIA- When I was checking out properties out in Lexington county area I saw a number with walk-in-coolers. I guess that I was in the upscale area.

Posted by: pawn at February 09, 2020 09:08 PM (PveK5)

322

Weasel had a series of posts on exactly this topic a few months back.

It was so good, Weasel should make a book out of it.

I have been told one can search for old threads (CAUTION: DO NOT COMMENT ON OLD THREADS) but I don't know how.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 09, 2020 09:03 PM (sy5kK)
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Thanks, LCD! I do have a little thread archive but I was too lazy to include topics when I set it up. I think those were in May of 2019. Anyhow, there is a link to the archive at the bottom of each weeks thread.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:08 PM (MVjcR)

323
Cosmoline?
Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 09:05 PM (BaHwF)
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No, but good guess! And that stuff is expensive!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:10 PM (MVjcR)

324 280 ... "Took little Nerada out and got a bakers dozen of quail"

Vashta, Please let us know some time about the hunting trip and what you used. I like stories about father and son hunts.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 09:10 PM (7EjX1)

325 TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel

Cosmoline?
Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2020 09:05 PM (BaHwF)
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I don't even know what this refers to but the answer is, of course, duct tape.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:11 PM (/669Q)

326 KL93.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 09:12 PM (DMUuz)

327
I don't even know what this refers to but the answer is, of course, duct tape.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:11 PM (/669Q)
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Duct tape can't hold Gort! He melted his way right out of a solid block of KL93!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)

328 FYI,

There is current a case before the Supreme Court that might or might not shed some light on the 2A--It is the NY Rifle and Pistol Assoc. v. NY City. It has been briefed and argued, however, NY City and the State of NY colluded in trying to get the case dismissed as moot by changing the regulation and state law at the last minute.

The question is what level of scrutiny is applicable, the 2nd Circuit applied Heller/MacDonald in the narrowest way possible and used an odd two step intermediate scrutiny analysis. Other circuits have done something similar such as the 1st, 4th, and 9th to some degree. One of the questions is whether or not one has a constitutional right to carry outside of the home, if so, does the state have discretion or must issue on permits or is no permit required at all to carry. Then, there is the whole semi-automatic rifle question and so on. Might get some answers as several other cases are also close to being considered by the court on the 2A.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 09:13 PM (EUDB2)

329 "I saw a number with walk-in-coolers. I guess that I was in the upscale area."

Yeh, one we looked at had a walk-in secure gun room.

Others were the large 25-40 gun size of safe.

Some with multiples.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 09:13 PM (tT0V4)

330 326 KL93.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 09:12 PM (DMUuz)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:13 PM (MVjcR)

331 Gort sounds like a German name.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:13 PM (oXJmp)

332 Not 200 rounds per gun, or 200 rounds of different calibers. 200 Rounds. Period.

But that would mean I could place a brick of .22 in somebody's car and call it in...

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2020 09:14 PM (cfSLd)

333 Duct tape can't hold Gort!
Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:12 PM

EB Green could, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 09:14 PM (DMUuz)

334
Barnhardt: Tell me, Hilda, does all this frighten you? Does it make you feel insecure?

Hilda: Yes, sir, it certainly does.

Barnhardt: That's good, Hilda. I'm glad.

Posted by: SMOD at February 09, 2020 09:14 PM (X5CsJ)

335
The Space Force also needs a creed, and yes, a song. They're trying to come with that as well. They haven't done this since the late '40s when the Air Force was officially created as a new service branch.

"Freedom to Infinity" is one suggested creed/motto.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (rCwaK)

336 Surly.

Fashion victim.

Sounds German to me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (oXJmp)

337 It's an old French Moutier

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (B7KlG)

338 Astros is my suggestion for what the new Space Force troops should be called
Posted by: Skip

Only the military space dogs .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

339 Night weasel, kind of preoccupied tonight but good thread.

Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (EUDB2)

340 "Not 200 rounds per gun, or 200 rounds of different calibers. 200 Rounds. Period. "

Is there a limit on Tide Pods as well?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (tT0V4)

341 The question is what level of scrutiny is applicable, the 2nd Circuit applied Heller/MacDonald in the narrowest way possible and used an odd two step intermediate scrutiny analysis. Other circuits have done something similar such as the 1st, 4th, and 9th to some degree. One of the questions is whether or not one has a constitutional right to carry outside of the home, if so, does the state have discretion or must issue on permits or is no permit required at all to carry. Then, there is the whole semi-automatic rifle question and so on. Might get some answers as several other cases are also close to being considered by the court on the 2A.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 09:13

Sounds like we will find out in June where the Country is headed.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (MTxDQ)

342 Barnhardt: Tell me, Hilda, does all this frighten you? Does it make you feel insecure?

Hilda: Yes, sir, it certainly does.

Barnhardt: That's good, Hilda. I'm glad.
Posted by: SMOD at February 09, 2020 09:14 PM (X5CsJ)
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Nice! Greatest movie ever, or what?

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (MVjcR)

343 Duct tape can't hold Gort! He melted his way right out of a solid block of KL93!
Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
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Oh, Okay. Then maybe aluminum foil?

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:16 PM (/669Q)

344 Space Force them song is Bill Murray lounge singer doing Star Wars.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)

345 I buy 556 in 240rd packs, is each a felony

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2020 09:16 PM (B7KlG)

346 339 Night weasel, kind of preoccupied tonight but good thread.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (EUDB2)
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Thanks whig. Good night! Always nice to have you here.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:17 PM (MVjcR)

347
Alex: .41 Magnum.

Jeopardy Contestant: What is the finest handgun caliber to date?

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 09:17 PM (DMUuz)

348 Was tin foil ever actually tin? Or always aluminum?

Seems like it would be stiff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:18 PM (oXJmp)

349
Hangar 18 bgy Megadeth

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 09:18 PM (uKj5K)

350 Others were the large 25-40 gun size of safe.

Some with multiples.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 09:13 PM (tT0V4)

Brings up an issue I have in the gun world.

Advertised 25 gun safe = 16-18 gun safe in reality

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 09:18 PM (2DOZq)

351 282 ... "anyone here load 45 Colt for lever action (standard, low pressures, reproduction rifle toggle action)? Any favorite loads for a 250-g plated bullet?"

rhomboid, I haven't shot it a lot but I use my standard 45 Colt round in the lever action. It's a 250 grain lead semiwadcutter over 8 grs. of Unique. It's comfortable even in the Ruger Vaquero. It's a pussy cat in the rifle.

I've used this 45 Colt load for decades and it has always done the job without excessive recoil. The only other load I use in 45 Colt is black powder with that same 250 grain bullet.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 09:18 PM (7EjX1)

352 Via @ 314- You moving to Charleston county? Only place I ever knew in S.C. that had combined City/County police. Of course I have not lived there in a heap of years, but it was the way it was in 1970 when I got out of the Navy the first time, anyway Charleston County is a good choice.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 09:18 PM (UUkQp)

353 331 Gort sounds like a German name.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:13 PM (oXJmp)

Could be. But there is small town named Gort in County Galway in the West of Ireland. Per Wikipedia.

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2020 09:19 PM (AMIL/)

354 "You moving to Charleston county?"

Dorchester.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 09, 2020 09:20 PM (tT0V4)

355 343 Duct tape can't hold Gort! He melted his way right out of a solid block of KL93!
Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
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Oh, Okay. Then maybe aluminum foil?
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:16 PM (/669Q)
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Aluminum foil?!?! He's not a TV dinner!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:20 PM (MVjcR)

356
Yes, tin foil of actual tin alloy was used before WWII. It was stiffer than aluminum foil. It's still made, but very rare.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 09:20 PM (rCwaK)

357 335
The Space Force also needs a creed, and yes, a song. They're trying to come with that as well. They haven't done this since the late '40s when the Air Force was officially created as a new service branch.

"Freedom to Infinity" is one suggested creed/motto.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (rCwaK)

Clint Eastwood & Lennie Niehaus to collaborate on that.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2020 09:20 PM (cNlpM)

358 Isn't space force committed to Queens space force

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2020 09:21 PM (B7KlG)

359 Sorry Queens flash gordon

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (B7KlG)

360 Gotta have a good Latin translation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (oXJmp)

361 I buy 556 in 240rd packs, is each a felony
Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2020 09:16 PM (B7KlG)

Academy has a 500 rd 9mm white box on sale for 89.99. They were stacked 4 high 10 across in the store. Houston > NYC

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (2DOZq)

362 "Freedom to Infinity" is one suggested creed/motto.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 09:15 PM (rCwaK)
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"To infinity and beyond." No need to reinvent the wheel.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (/669Q)

363 Grew up on a farm and started shooting 22LR at age 6. By age 8 I had saved up enough chore money to buy my own 22LR from an ad in Field and Stream for $18.95 which included S&H. It was delivered by the USPS. No background check, no forms. I took it to school once a month for a marksmanship class.

All gun laws should be repealed. They are worthless except for infringing on our God given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: parker at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (Y9Jdp)

364 "Freedom to Infinity" is one suggested creed/motto.

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To the Moon, Alice!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (MVjcR)

365 I'll refrain from making squid jokes.
Posted by: SMH at February 09, 2020 08:55 PM

Might as well. We've got Joe Biden making dogface jokes for us, now.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 09, 2020 09:23 PM (DMUuz)

366
You can get a rough 2 x 2.5" square of real tin foil on Amazon for about $30, I see. 99.995% pure Sn.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 09, 2020 09:24 PM (rCwaK)

367 the costume was foam rubber. Gort was played by a really tall guy who was previously working as a waiter. He kept overheating in the suit

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2020 09:24 PM (6rS3m)

368 188
TRIVIA QUESTION:

What was the material used to encase Gort in The Movie?

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 08:15 PM (MVjcR)

Wild-ass guess: The material blimps are made of (rubberized fabric with a silver-colored coating)?

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2020 09:25 PM (AMIL/)

369 Gotta have a good Latin translation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:22 PM (oXJmp)

TENEAT CERVISIAM MEVS

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 09:25 PM (t+qrx)

370 A duck!

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:26 PM (oXJmp)

371 Sorry - perhaps I should've been clearer.
During the movie they realize Gort had been moving around at night kicking people's asses, so they try to immobilize him in a block of stuff called KL93.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:27 PM (MVjcR)

372 Libertas praeter Astra or something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:27 PM (oXJmp)

373 "space dogs"

Listen lady, on this ship I am to be addressed as 'Idiot', not 'you Captain' - I mean... you know what I mean.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 09:28 PM (ykYG2)

374 OT:

I wondered what happened to Jordan Peterson. This is horrific.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/qmuelr2

Posted by: IrishEi at February 09, 2020 09:28 PM (sGotD)

375 Dorchester is cool too, VIA. Lots of good hunting and fishing. and not far from Salley in Orangeburg County. Go to the Chitlin Strut this year. You can thank me later.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 09:28 PM (UUkQp)

376 Bobby later became Bud on Father Knows Best.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2020 09:30 PM (aKsyK)

377 OK - 9:30 and you know what that means!
Thanks everyone for showing up here each week and listening to my nonsense. It's a real pleasure putting it together for you all and I appreciate your time.

I hope to have the opportunity to thank you in person at NoVaMoMe2020!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:31 PM (MVjcR)

378 I wonder if you can get a good country fried steak at Chitlin Strut?

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:31 PM (oXJmp)

379 I cannot carry at work (bummer! and strictly enforced)

What does anyone recommend for secured car-carry?

Wouldn't want a smash n grabber to get my piece while it's parked.

Posted by: JQ, bawdy broad at February 09, 2020 09:31 PM (gP/Z3)

380 TENEAT CERVISIAM MEVS
Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 09:25 PM (t+qrx)

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 09:31 PM (uKj5K)

381 Whoops. LOL, hogmartin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 09:31 PM (uKj5K)

382 Guys, after a full day of skullduggery at work today, it's up at 0400 tomorrow for another day. Leave the fan running but turn off the lights.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2020 09:32 PM (UUkQp)

383 'Night, Eromero!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:33 PM (MVjcR)

384 So Brad Pitt goes on the boycott list.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 09, 2020 09:33 PM (2DOZq)

385 I wondered what happened to Jordan Peterson. This is horrific.

Posted by: IrishEi

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Whoa! Prayers for the good Doctor.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 09:33 PM (Y4EXg)

386 Seems like it would be stiff.
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:18 PM (oXJmp)

Tin is a soft, lustrous white metal, not unlike silver.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2020 09:33 PM (LxWV7)

387 Weasel, thanks again for the thread! Always enjoyable.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 09:34 PM (Y4EXg)

388 Man, I can't believe Eminem got a standing O for a song he recorded years ago. There was a shot of Martin Scorsese during it and the thought balloon over his head was "WTF?"

And what stupid think did Brad Pitt say this time? One upon a time in Hollywood was a pretty good movie.

Posted by: vivi at February 09, 2020 09:35 PM (11H2y)

389 387 Weasel, thanks again for the thread! Always enjoyable.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2020 09:34 PM (Y4EXg)
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Thanks, Tonypete. My pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:35 PM (MVjcR)

390 Watching Fringe on Amazon. The cell phones are kind of funny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:36 PM (oXJmp)

391 re Peterson : I'm fast coming around to seeing American drug companies as evil.

"we'll treat your problems after taking heroin... with METHADONE! yeah!!!"

Good thing the Russians (of all people) just know to say screw it, we'll detox you.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 09:36 PM (ykYG2)

392 I like "Troopers." It's a tribute to Heinlein. Doesn't solve the O-ranks, though. And -- the Troopers were kind of Marines. Crewmen on the starships had naval rank. More foreign air forces than not use naval ranks.

Did you know we are one of the last major powers to establish a Space Force?

I just hate what they're going to go through with the song thing. You know damn well there's really only the choice between Space Oddity and Rocket Man, and both those songs and their authors just plain suck as hard as the 20th century was capable.

End theme of Aliens is wonderful (Hanson, Romantic), but hard to set lyrics to. And you know how Recruiting loves lyrics.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 09, 2020 09:38 PM (oRpiG)

393 Watching Fringe on Amazon. The cell phones are kind of funny.
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:36 PM (oXJmp)
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We're watching it too. Some of it is a little too intense for me. I'm a wimp.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:38 PM (/669Q)

394 Thanks for the pleasant evening.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2020 09:38 PM (cNlpM)

395 Yes, Gort sounds German. But in the original short story, his name was Gnut, and you know what that sounds like. A Norge.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 09, 2020 09:39 PM (oRpiG)

396 The Classic Battlestar Galactica theme would be good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:39 PM (oXJmp)

397 Fringe was very good. Anna Torv was a hottie.

I'm watching golf. They were in Pebble Beach this weekend. The weather was perfect but a little windy at times. Monterrey Peninsula looks like a painting. It's beautiful. I can see why it's hard for Californians to leave that state. Shame about the politics there.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2020 09:39 PM (eSYLv)

398 The reason Eminem got a standing O: because total crap music from 30 years ago is still better than anything done this millenia.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2020 09:39 PM (q3gwH)

399 Well, I messed with the Chinese mystery pistol again this afternoon. Still cannot get it to pop the primer in an unloaded cartridge. The mechanism of this piece is an exact copy of an FN model 1900, except scaled up to suit the .30 Mauser bottle-neck cartridge.

I am beginning to think that removing the slug and powder from the cartridge acts to screw up the headspacing, and also allows the impact of the firing pin to simply knock the empty brass forward a little in the chamber, instead of deeply dimpling the primer brass. It dimples the primers a little, but not enough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2020 09:39 PM (LxWV7)

400 Preferably rifle... I'll be reloading .223, 300 BLK & 30-06. I'm curious about how to use the chrono to evaluate performance.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at February 09, 2020 09:40 PM (AZyuK)

401 394 Thanks for the pleasant evening.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2020 09:38 PM (cNlpM)
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Thank you! The pleasure is mine!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:40 PM (MVjcR)

402
IIRC, benzos are one of the few things where detoxing can kill you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 09:40 PM (uKj5K)

403 400 Preferably rifle... I'll be reloading .223, 300 BLK & 30-06. I'm curious about how to use the chrono to evaluate performance.
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at February 09, 2020 09:40 PM (AZyuK)
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Do me a favor and send me an email at the Gun thread address.

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:41 PM (MVjcR)

404 I just hate what they're going to go through with the song thing. You know damn well there's really only the choice between Space Oddity and Rocket Man,

Peter Schilling's Major Tom and Marilyn Manson's Disassociative both pay homage to Bowie, and aren't bad. Pity they're both downers. But then so is Space Oddity.

What about Bowie's Starman?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 09:41 PM (ykYG2)

405 Nood

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 09:41 PM (uKj5K)

406
Yes, Gort sounds German. But in the original short story, his name was Gnut, and you know what that sounds like. A Norge.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

Cuddly polar bear cub

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2020 09:41 PM (aKsyK)

407 Just lock yourself in a hotel room for a week!
- Audie Murphy

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at February 09, 2020 09:42 PM (oXJmp)

408 398- that's true. Tons of people in the audience singing along and that's a tough song to do it too. And it got everyone rocking, which was nice. Eminem finally lost that little kid look but I didn't recognize him with a full beard.

Posted by: vivi at February 09, 2020 09:42 PM (11H2y)

409 The WA state leftie pussies are watching. Yes they are.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

LCD, I mentioned it several weeks ago after several conversations with acquaintances who are tuned into the shenanigans of the Blue Meanies in Olympia that they are working on amendments to RCW 9.41.290 that would allow local jurisdictions to enact ordinances which exceed ( but not the reverse) the state firearm regulations. I have not found any bills that address that concern but I trust the sources one who is in LE with contacts within the legislative bodies. Have you heard anything similar?

Posted by: Sock Monkey...waxing bananas at February 09, 2020 09:43 PM (Y3/Ti)

410 OK people! ONT is up. Thanks again and have a great week!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2020 09:43 PM (MVjcR)

411 Klaatu! Barada!! Ni! (Cough cough cough). There! I said it!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2020 09:43 PM (q3gwH)

412 IIRC, benzos are one of the few things where detoxing can kill you.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2020 09:40 PM (uKj5K)

Alcohol's another. There are drugs to counteract the dangerous effects of alcohol withdrawal.

...mostly benzodiazepines.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 09:43 PM (t+qrx)

413 reason Eminem got a standing O: because total crap music from 30 years ago is still better than anything done this millenia.

I thought the 2000s raised up some decent music. Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Ladytron.

The last decade I dunno. Tame Impala? or Gary Numan's comeback. [I'm reaching]

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 09, 2020 09:43 PM (ykYG2)

414 Nice to see Randy Newsman on stage. His album "Sail Away" is awesome even with the heavy-handed lefty shit. ("Political Science" and "Sail Away' in particular).

Posted by: vivi at February 09, 2020 09:45 PM (11H2y)

415 We're watching it too. Some of it is a little too intense for me. I'm a wimp.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 09, 2020 09:38 PM (/669Q)

Well take a break, if you need to. Otherwise you'll worry with your Fringe, non-stop.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2020 09:45 PM (t+qrx)

416 oh shit a lotta #Oscarssowhite

Posted by: vivi at February 09, 2020 09:49 PM (11H2y)

417 I want Bowie excised from this continent. I have never felt any other way about him, and I have known his "work" since his first solo album.

You cannot endorse that thing, and then come around here belly-aching about the decline of modern culture. What the hell is wrong with you people?

better than anything done this millenia.Oh, Shirley, you must mean these milleniae.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 09, 2020 09:50 PM (oRpiG)

418 g'nite, all! ThanX! again for a great evening, Weasel!

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 09, 2020 10:04 PM (gMngZ)

419 > 160 what's the deal with the Glock 42 trigger?
Posted by: vmom 2020

I'm learning to shoot more than 1 shot accurately and my trainer tells me I have to keep the trigger depressed after I fire then let it slide forward until I feel the reset. (If my finger moves off after I fire then, when I put the finger back on the trigger it's probably not in the same place and I lose a lot of accuracy.)

then I can fire again.

Fine. Except I've never tried shooting like that before and I have to REALLY CONCENTRATE to keep my finger on the trigger.

It's not that hard to do with my Glock 17. The 42 makes it a challenge!

Posted by: ArthurK at February 09, 2020 10:11 PM (H+nmG)

420 > True enough. It is rather jarring to see Glock step on their dick like this.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 09, 2020 08:18 PM (FRGnP)

No, Glock had serious magazine issues with the Glock 42 when it first came out. They had to recall ALL of the originals and it didn't really get fixed until version 3.0

Posted by: ArthurK at February 09, 2020 10:13 PM (H+nmG)

421 Any space infantry are, by definition, Space Marines.

It's not like they are going to walk to battle.

Posted by: Grump928(C) blurts at February 09, 2020 10:38 PM (xbhTc)

422 Now for a silly question.
There are suppressors for guns, but is there anything to make them LOUDER?
I mean, like, rattle the windows in the neighborhood, or set off the car alarms in the next county loud.
Not that I'd need or use such a thing, but am just curious if something like that exists.
(And yes, I know most answers will be "Get a bigger gun!" ;-)

Posted by: The Last To Post at February 10, 2020 01:09 AM (PtEQc)

423 Well, I guess the name for space troops should be MARIAFEs, then.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 10, 2020 02:10 AM (A1psc)

424 Y'all darn near hit 500 here.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2020 05:06 AM (Y3R0d)

425 All- I HIGHLY RECOMMEND those that come for the MoMe try to be in DC on the morning of the 8th.

The largest flight of WWII aircraft will be flying over the mall that day starting about 11am. Over 100 aircraft from fighters to bombers to cargo planes will be flying! B-29, B-25, possibly spitfires, mustangs, trainers, C-47, you name it, if they are in flying condition they will be attending this.

Posted by: Mr Wolf at February 10, 2020 08:21 AM (Mxv9c)

426 A Buck Rogers Star Fighter lets vapoorize those Antifa slugs in their ships

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 10, 2020 05:27 PM (wGqjj)

427 The strange .36 cartridge appears to be a .36 Thuer cartridge, for the Model 1851 and 1861
Colt Navy percussion revolver conversions.
Yer welcome!

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Posted by: Ahmed Ashid at February 13, 2020 09:23 AM (M50ve)

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