The Occasional Fishing Thread, What's In a Name Edition<br>[Bandersnatch]

The Occasional Fishing Thread, What's In a Name Edition
[Bandersnatch]

Welcome Piscators and Piscatrixes, Nimrods and Nimrettes, and Rough Riders of all genders to the current installment of the occasional fishing and hunting and other wholesome outdoorsness thread. What’s in a name?

I suppose this all started when I was a wee tyke with a fishing addiction and a library card. The names of the fish were passed around among boys who fished, but the books in the library had different names. This, for instance, is a Calico Bass:

Except the book said it’s a Crappie. Which, hey, when you’re seven is kind of exciting. Back then of course there was no Wikipedia, which now tells us that

Other names for crappie are papermouths, strawberry bass, speckled bass or specks (especially in Michigan), speckled perch, white perch, crappie bass, calico bass, (throughout the Middle Atlantic states, and New England), sac-a-lait (in Louisiana, lit. "milk bag", sometimes sounding like "sokaline"], an alteration by folk etymology from Choctaw sakli) and Oswego bass.

I did not grow up making Spey casts at Atlantic salmon, I grew up throwing worms into puddles to see what’s there. This was there and I caught a catfish! No, Dad said, that’s just a hornpout. Way to harsh my mellow, Dad. Anyway, it’s a Brown Bullhead.

Species Name: Ameirus nebulosus
Common Names: bullpout, mud pout, horned pout, hornpout, mud cat

Up here (in the pure clean North) this is a Bonito.

Down South the fish they call Bonito is a False Albacore. What we call a False Albacore is their Little Tunny. Or the other way around. One has stripes and one has squiggles. One is good eating and the other isn’t. Bonito, our Bonito, is good eating. I can always remember the difference because of the mnemonic stripes = sashimi. Or is it squiggles = sashimi? Mnemonics have their limits.

Down in the Gulf if you say Speckled Trout you mean a Sea Trout, or Weakfish, or Squeateague.

In New Hampshire if you say Speckled Trout you mean a Brook Trout.

And while it’s a salmonid it’s not a true trout, it’s a char. Trout have dark spots on a light background and char have light spots on a dark background. There’s also something about volmer teeth, but I’m not really sure what that means.

This is a sunfish:

Sunfish have useful names for subdivision, bluegills, punkinseeds, longears, and such, but they’re all sunfish.

This is also a sunfish:

The Ocean Sunfish or Mola Mola is the largest bony fish in the world. (Whale sharks, while larger, are cartilaginous). They’re really goofy looking, like the front half of a fish that God got bored designing and just released into the wild, unformed.

This is a dolphin:

It’s not a fish. You knew that. Everyone knows that. It’s a marine mammal and marine rhymes with rapine.

This is a dolphin:

People tried calling them dolphinfish for a while just to avoid the confusion and say no I didn’t kill Flipper and turn him into sushi, and then everyone gave up and adopted the Hawaiian word Mahi Mahi.

So, do you have any good regionalisms?

Let’s get to the mailbag.

Gunslinger has something astounding:

Only went out twice this season, as we moved our homestead.
Amazing that fish like these regularly move through downtown Sacramento. I fish north of that by about an hour.
California’s insane water policies have all but decimated the salmon runs, but the incredible 2 water years out of the last 4, should help rebound the population.

Larro has a different kind of fish tale.

Taken back behind my house on a pond. I swear this bird snagged my pet catfish “Charlie”
This bird is a troublemaker

Toxic Jeff brings us a pic…

… from a trip to Panama, fishing on the Hannibal Bank on the pacific side, over 1200 feet of water. Dolphins were schooling up baitfish with a school of yellowfin tuna below them. Once the dolphins commenced feeding, the tuna would hit as well. In the frenzy, the tuna were occasionally jumping clear out of the water. Quite a spectacle. Anyway, the guides would scan the horizon looking for this surface feeding, and then heave a live bait into the froth. They finally hooked one and I brought it in, a 60 pounder. Best tuna I ever ate; delicious raw sashimi and when pan seared.

And with that we move on to the raison d’etre of this here HQ, the comments section. Brickbats, praise, and fish brag pics are welcome at aoshqfish at sign gmail thing

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:26 PM

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1 Say, anyone know any good fish puns?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2020 07:27 PM (XVuno)

2 Taken back behind my house on a pond. I swear this bird snagged my pet catfish "Charlie"
This bird is a troublemaker

Birds in general are troublemakers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2020 07:28 PM (XVuno)

3 Mahi Mahi? Man, that's a dorado.

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 07:30 PM (OMsf+)

4 Also, just as pecan is pronounced "puh-cahn", so is crappie pronounced "crop'-ee" with the emphasis on "crop".

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 07:31 PM (OMsf+)

5 I live in the Pacific NW, which has great fishing but insanely complicated regulations. I grew up in Missouri, where the fish weren't as exciting but the rules were: 1) buy a license; 2) don't throw dynamite sticks into a pond.

Posted by: PabloD at February 08, 2020 07:33 PM (a0kj6)

6 I would very much like to try the "Good Bonito."

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 07:36 PM (IsG7k)

7 I remember as a kid being confused that two very different types of sea creatures were called "dolphin."

Never been a fisher, but sea life has always fascinated me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 08, 2020 07:36 PM (l9m7l)

8 Them are crappie.

Posted by: freaked at February 08, 2020 07:39 PM (Tnijr)

9 Nice on the fish names, OB.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 08, 2020 07:39 PM (HuH1F)

10 Going to Montana this summer for an intro to fly fishing. Personal guide. Never done before. Should I take a fly fishing at Orvis or just go completely green?

Posted by: Chris not rock at February 08, 2020 07:40 PM (WO0/g)

11 Flipper wasn't a dolphin. He/She was a bottlenose porpoise.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 07:40 PM (IsG7k)

12 Went river fishing alot with freinds as a kid, hate fish so never ate any.

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2020 07:41 PM (ZCEU2)

13 At least that's what we call them down here.

Posted by: freaked at February 08, 2020 07:41 PM (Tnijr)

14 Montana? Fly-fishing? Wild Adventure?

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 07:41 PM (IsG7k)

15
At the end of the month it will be time for the familiar ritual of inventorying the fishing gear--checking rods, reels, line,hooks, flies etc.

I've cut back quite a bit but it still surprises how much stuff gets accumulated. I believe most of it is to catch the fisherman not the fish.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 08, 2020 07:42 PM (KATBx)

16 Definitely crappie. We catch them through the ice this time of year.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 08, 2020 07:42 PM (Um2IM)

17 I told this story last thread but it belongs here. A lot of the fish illustrations are by Denton. He was a turn of the last century illustrator and NYS used his lithographs in their fish and game altases.

The lithographs were instant collectibles. I have a few on my walls. Anyway, I was searching for Denton fish to get pictures for this thread, including Bonito (Sarda Sarda). I turned in my homework and took a nap and when I woke up EBay had sent me a letter offering to sell me a Denton litho of Bonito (Sarda Sarda).

The internet has reached Peak Creepy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 07:44 PM (gd9RK)

18 crappies are fine eating.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 08, 2020 07:45 PM (KP5rU)

19 Also, small sunfish (e.g. bluegill) are collectively called bream where I grew up, pronounced "brim".

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 07:46 PM (OMsf+)

20 'Say, anyone know any good fish puns?'

Tuna in later.

Posted by: freaked at February 08, 2020 07:46 PM (Tnijr)

21 'Say, anyone know any good fish puns?'

Tuna in later.
Posted by: freaked

One hundred (100) comment rule.

So sayeth the Ace.

Posted by: Miklos, also a sinner at February 08, 2020 07:47 PM (QzkSJ)

22 Flipper wasn't a dolphin. He/She was a bottlenose porpoise.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 07:40 PM

Hollywood was porpoisely trying to confuse everyone.

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 07:48 PM (OMsf+)

23 There is a 1-2 day crappie run around here in early spring. If you hit it, you'll catch as many crappie as you want, one right after the other. Amazing fun!

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 08, 2020 07:49 PM (Um2IM)

24 Never could figure out why a mammal would think I breath air so how about I go live in a environment that has no air I can breath.

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2020 07:50 PM (ZCEU2)

25 Baltimore...

Lake trout.

Folk love it.

It ain't trout.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 08, 2020 07:51 PM (tT0V4)

26 I caught a fish off of Mexico Beach when I was about 12 or 13 that I had never seen before. My uncle said it was a Cowfish. He was a kidder so I figured he was making it up. I learned years later it was some kind of boxfish.

Posted by: freaked at February 08, 2020 07:52 PM (Tnijr)

27 My wife gave me a great Christmas present: fly fishing lessons

Posted by: scrood at February 08, 2020 07:53 PM (RGVbn)

28 Growing up in S.C. we called crappies crappies, not croppies. Here in Texas they call them croppies. The catfish caught off the end of the discharge pipe were called crammies. Because.

Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2020 07:56 PM (UUkQp)

29 Spanish Mackerel are starting to run here in Cape Canaveral this week.

Tried Mullet for the first time at Larry Czonka's restaurant up in Indian river. Almost as bad as catfish. Real bait box taste to it.

Posted by: Grand Rapids at February 08, 2020 07:56 PM (iyH2S)

30 My friend told me about Wild Adventure. Fly fishing lessons. Campfires. Good food. Whiskey. Cigars.
Sounds like Heaven.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 07:56 PM (IsG7k)

31 Eating some Salmon for dinner tonight.

That is a beautiful fish Gunslinger - how much did it weigh?

Posted by: batterup at February 08, 2020 08:01 PM (K4I9O)

32 Met a guy once in South Florida back in the 70's who was out at night fishing off of an inlet and catching Moonfish.

He had a whole bucket full of them. Thin, silvery, flat things.

I ain't seen any Moonfish before or since.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2020 08:02 PM (Z+IKu)

33 Over the years in So Cal sailing I've see two ocean sunfish. They're cool to look at since they are so weird and big, maybe 8 ft long and 6 ft wide. It looks like they got pinched off behind the fins. The ones I've seen were at the surface floating on their side.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 08, 2020 08:02 PM (aS1PU)

34 I thought the best informal name for crappie was 'freckles'. Cute and descriptive.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 08:02 PM (7EjX1)

35 I saw a huge sunfish like the lower illustration. Monterey Bay.
I was in the water with it.
Big as an automobile.
Monterey Bay is a biological wonder. It is just crammed with aquatic life.

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at February 08, 2020 08:03 PM (w7KSn)

36 Nop not wild adventure. A ranch on the Missouri

Posted by: Chris not rock at February 08, 2020 08:04 PM (WO0/g)

37 10 Going to Montana this summer for an intro to fly fishing. Personal guide. Never done before. Should I take a fly fishing at Orvis or just go completely green?
Posted by: Chris not rock at February 08, 2020 07:40 PM (WO0/g)

Practice casting now.

Thank us later.

You don't want to waste one minute on the river learning it, you want to savor every minute with good casting and technique.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 08:04 PM (sy5kK)

38 Them are crappie.
Posted by: freaked at February 08, 2020 07:39 PM (Tnijr)

When I would go lake fishing with my dad, crappie were the holy grail he used to talk about but we never caught. I started to think they were a fish version of snipe.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 08, 2020 08:05 PM (aS1PU)

39 I guess this is OK, Red wing Blackbirds and Meadow larks are definitely edible.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 08, 2020 08:05 PM (/curx)

40 29 Spanish Mackerel are starting to run here in Cape Canaveral this week.

Tried Mullet for the first time at Larry Czonka's restaurant up in Indian river. Almost as bad as catfish. Real bait box taste to it.
Posted by: Grand Rapids at February 08, 2020 07:56 PM (iyH2S)

Isn't mullet what the Indians taught the Pilgrims to fertilize their corn hills with? Had to stay out in the fields for several days to keep the critters from digging the fish up.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 08, 2020 08:06 PM (qyH+l)

41 Up here walleye and pickerel are the same fish. No clue where the two names come from or why.

Posted by: Canuckjack at February 08, 2020 08:06 PM (dWT4L)

42 Just finished a couple of fish tacos made with steelhead trout, fresno chilis, green onions, and a little advocado on a corn tortilla. skweezed a little lime on them and...BAM...they were gone.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 08, 2020 08:08 PM (EK+jJ)

43 Up here walleye and pickerel are the same fish. No clue where the two names come from or why.
Posted by: Canuckjack at February 08, 2020 08:06 PM (dWT4L)

And Northern Pike are "jackfish", "hammer handles", and "slough sharks".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2020 08:08 PM (LxWV7)

44 Crappie. Catch them on young wasps straight out of the nest. Light off a newspaper and burn the adults off the nest, put the young white wasps out of the nest on a small hook, and catch all the bedded crappie (or any other panfish) you want. That's some good eating especially with grits.

Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2020 08:09 PM (UUkQp)

45 Isn't mullet what the Indians taught the Pilgrims to fertilize their corn hills with?

That's probably menhaden, also called bunker, also called pogies, to keep with tonight's theme.

BTW, Omega 3 oil is pure fucking evil. It's made from menhaden, mostly, which are being trawled to within an inch of their lives along the Atlantic coast.

Menhaden are a primary forage fish for striped bass and tuna and a key building block in the food chain and they're being extirpated for literal snake oil to make people feel good about themselves.

Do no buy Omega-3 anything, please.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 08:09 PM (gd9RK)

46 On the Florida gulf coast sea trout, weakfish, and speckled trout were all used for the same fish. Kinda fun caught on light spinning tackle.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 08:09 PM (7EjX1)

47 And Northern Pike are "jackfish", "hammer handles", and "slough sharks".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2020 08:08 PM (LxWV7)

I just call them gators or snot rockets.

Posted by: Canuckjack at February 08, 2020 08:10 PM (dWT4L)

48 41 Up here walleye and pickerel are the same fish. No clue where the two names come from or why.
Posted by: Canuckjack at February 08, 2020 08:06 PM (dWT4L

Have never heard pickerel as common language for anything other than Northern Pike.

We have caught crappie from the river. Usually u are on a school of them or u are not.

Posted by: West Virginia Fried Skwerl at February 08, 2020 08:11 PM (Vy7tf)

49 Have never heard pickerel as common language for anything other than Northern Pike.

Pickerel are a different species from Northern Pike and Muskellunge, but they all look the same.

For some reason Walleyes are sometimes called Walleyed Pike, even though they look nothing like the pike family.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 08:13 PM (gd9RK)

50 Last 2 years we have slayed the crappie. Hopefully this year the streak will continue. The spring bite usually starts in late April and runs a couple of weeks. The spring bite is in the shallow warmer water and if you hit it right, it's a fish every cast (live minnows or jigs are the best). Later in the year we find them in deeper water. Deep fried crappie filets are the best eating fish there is.

Posted by: DooDad at February 08, 2020 08:14 PM (SnLSx)

51 Surf casting in Rhode Island we often caught something called a black fish by my neighbors. Seems everyone had a different name. I never did learn what the hell it actually was.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 08:16 PM (7EjX1)

52 Fresh flounder is the best eating fish ever, DooDad. It is known.

Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2020 08:17 PM (UUkQp)

53 Where I'm at, sun fish, blue gill, perch, and maybe others are from the same family. I've only eaten perch and blue gill.

Posted by: Ronster at February 08, 2020 08:17 PM (uOkQY)

54 Surf casting in Rhode Island we often caught something called a black fish by my neighbors. Seems everyone had a different name. I never did learn what the hell it actually was.

Tautog.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 08:18 PM (gd9RK)

55 Finally, a fish thread so I can link this YouTube video I came across.

Pretty girls fly fishing for trout in WI in the winter(??)... Totally safe for work...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/rwf63rw

Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2020 08:18 PM (l3+k2)

56 I could use a great big crappie sammich.

Posted by: Lt. Col. Bearclaw at February 08, 2020 08:18 PM (EgshT)

57 Deep fried crappie filets are the best eating fish there is.

My dad used to bring home Crappie and fry them up. They didn't last long in the dish. Some didn't even make it to the table. While sailing the channel between Mexico and Cozumel, we caught a barracuda and grilled him. That was definitely some good eating.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 08, 2020 08:18 PM (EK+jJ)

58 "Tried Mullet for the first time at Larry Czonka's restaurant up in Indian river. Almost as bad as catfish. Real bait box taste to it. "

Back when it was allowed to discharge ships sewage over the side, mullet would gather right around the overboard discharge, and chow down.

Never ate mullet after seeing that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 08, 2020 08:19 PM (tT0V4)

59 I have learned that *grouper* is a general term for a species. I always thought it was just one type of fish

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 08:19 PM (a4qVe)

60 Walleye!

Posted by: Hare lip at February 08, 2020 08:20 PM (aKsyK)

61 Isn't mullet what the Indians taught the Pilgrims to
fertilize their corn hills with? Had to stay out in the fields for
several days to keep the critters from digging the fish up.
Posted by: Fox2! at February 08, 2020 08:06 PM (qyH+l)

Dad said that Grandpa put in the victory garden at the beginning of WWII and decided to do the pilgrim thing and go to the docks and buy some trash fish to bury in the garden for fertilizer.

It stunk so bad they never tried it again.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 08, 2020 08:21 PM (6rS3m)

62 10 .. "Going to Montana this summer for an intro to fly fishing. Personal guide. Never done before. Should I take a fly fishing at Orvis or just go completely green?"

I found the fly casting lessons at the local Orvis to be very helpful. They didn't make me a good caster but showed the basics and gave a realistic idea of how far to cast to be effective. Not as far as I thought.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 08:21 PM (7EjX1)

63 live in the Pacific NW, which has great fishing but insanely complicated regulations. I grew up in Missouri, where the fish weren't as exciting but the rules were: 1) buy a license; 2) don't throw dynamite sticks into a pond.

I no longer fish here in Oregon due the insane fishing regs (same goes for hunting). Growing up in Montana you drowned worms and fly fished often at the same time!

Fishing in the streams of New Hampshire was a challenge due the more shallow and rocky bottoms.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 08, 2020 08:21 PM (Mki/r)

64 I have learned that *grouper* is a general term for a species. I always thought it was just one type of fish
Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 08:19 PM (a4qVe)

Linnean name is "Josephus Bidenus"?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 08, 2020 08:22 PM (6rS3m)

65 There is a 1-2 day crappie run around here in early spring. If you hit it, you'll catch as many crappie as you want, one right after the other. Amazing fun!
Posted by: Muad'dib
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Crappie diem

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 08, 2020 08:22 PM (nIvDu)

66 iirc, walleye are perch.

Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2020 08:23 PM (l3+k2)

67 Just committed to my family's annual bass fishing trip to Maine. Eight days, on an island, with no power, no running water, no plumbing.

Just fishing, drinking, and solving the world's problems.

It's not until July, but I'm already ramped.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at February 08, 2020 08:23 PM (T8HPM)

68 Hey All,
Posted a bit about my fishing trip this past weekend on the ONT, but thought it might be appropriate here.

Went to Pyramid Lake in NV with my brother to try for the legendary Lahontan Cutthroat Trout on flies. Spoiler: we didn't get any. We know people have been catching, but we didn't see anyone land any. Of course lack of experience was likely a big factor, as I'd never done that type of fishing before. Fished Pyramid Fri. afternoon & Sat. morning. Weather was beautiful; low 60s, gentle breezes. Saturday afternoon we tried our luck on the Truckee in Verdi, just East of the state line. Again, no luck. We had good views of the river from various vantage points, but couldn't even spot any fish. There had been reports of people catching, even on dries (BWOs), but again no luck for us.

Ah well, had a great time nonetheless. Had to get away for a bit, and this trip was the medicine I needed. I regret that I didn't get to do more fishing with Average Son when I still had the chance... I'll never be able to make up for that, but I hope to do more with my brother & anyone else I can sucker into going with me...

Posted by: Average Guy at February 08, 2020 08:23 PM (BaHwF)

69 Never ate mullet after seeing that.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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If you had seen what I have, you would never eat crab again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 08, 2020 08:24 PM (nIvDu)

70 1 Say, anyone know any good fish puns?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2020 07:27 PM (XVuno)

Stop it I'm tunaing you out Cic.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 08, 2020 08:24 PM (hmgiv)

71 LOL kindletot!

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 08:25 PM (a4qVe)

72 It's not until July, but I'm already ramped.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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Please tell me you don't have to pack your waste out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 08, 2020 08:26 PM (QrTqV)

73 Any flame wars about fish yet?

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 08, 2020 08:26 PM (hmgiv)

74

Gills and yellow perch were plentiful this year. We gorged on them for Super Sunday, along with all the other goodies the last of which are just now being consumed.

Had way too much food.

I love 9-10" Brookies split and broiled with salt pepper and lemon butter. 2 or 3 times in the early season I go catch breakfast using dry flies and starring trout.

Not good, but magnificent eats.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 08, 2020 08:27 PM (KATBx)

75 If you had seen what I have, you would never eat crab again.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 08, 2020 08:24 PM (nIvDu)

Or the lobster wearing Jimmy Hoffa's wristwatch like a championship wrestling belt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2020 08:28 PM (LxWV7)

76 Average guy that sounds like a good plan to get out and do with those you love. I would love to take our grandsons on a fishing trip. They're 5 and 7 so it might be a bit challenging.

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 08:29 PM (a4qVe)

77 Amen, Beartooth. ODFW's policy seems to be to punish people for buying a fishing or hunting license. I used to go back to MO for deer season; maybe I'll do it again this fall. Dad is still going strong in his 70s, but he's got only so many more years before he can get out into the field.

Posted by: PabloD at February 08, 2020 08:30 PM (a0kj6)

78 Please tell me you don't have to pack your waste out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 08, 2020 08:26 PM (QrTqV)

Nope. Many, many years ago... Maybe in 1955 or so, we built an outhouse on the far side of the island (which is maybe a mile around). We've got contacts up there who lime it down after we leave.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at February 08, 2020 08:30 PM (T8HPM)

79 to try for the legendary Lahontan Cutthroat Trout

That sounds like a great trip.

There was a Lake Lahontan subspecies of cuttrhroat trout that grew to 40 lbs., but it's extinct. We made it extinct and we knew we were doing it.

They ran up rivers to spawn. All the rivers got dammed for sawmills. They dammed the last river in I think 1938 and everyone went to watch the last run of Lahontan Cutthroat giants and then they were gone. There are still cutthroats with the same name and species, but the kind that got that big is gone.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 08:30 PM (gd9RK)

80 Mullet fish is good smoked or slow oven cooked. Marinade in 2/3 yellow mustard 1/3 Louisiana hot sauce.

Cook at 200 for 2-6 hours depending on the thickness of the fish.

Went from a fish I tossed back to one I looked forward to eating.

Posted by: Big V at February 08, 2020 08:30 PM (y/fJ4)

81 My father called them crappies. Also sunfish, sometimes strawberry bass.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at February 08, 2020 08:34 PM (0tmoY)

82 Bandersnatch, the record for Pyramid was 41lbs, caught in 1925. Nowadays they get up into the 20s fairly regularly.

I'll definitely try Pyramid again, though we're moving to San Diego in a couple of months so I don't know when that will be.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 08, 2020 08:36 PM (BaHwF)

83 My grandparents went to Florida every winter (from Tennessee) and my GF fished, caught a lot of crappie. Heaven knows what they actually were, probably some type of bass. And 4, you are correct, my GM always pronounced it "croppie."

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 08, 2020 08:36 PM (oW/8k)

84 Was just watching a show called " Abandoned." One of the segments was on the Salton Sea in SoCal. It was formed in about 1905 while building a canal from the Colorado River, for irrigation purposes in the Imperial Valley. The river broke it's banks and flooded a large sink area in the desert, making it the largest lake in California.

Back in the day, it was quite the place, with resorts surrounding the lake. The resorts hosted the rich and famous and also was a fishing hot spot. Mozambique Tilapia, Orange Mouthed Corvina, Sargo, ect. were introduced into the lake.

We went on a fishing trip to the Salton Sea back in the late 60's. This was a big ass lake. We were out in the middle of it and you couldn't see land in any direction. But the water was less than 50' deep. I watched onto the biggest fish I ever caught...a 15 pound Orange Mouth Corvina.

The fish never made it back to the dock. Me and my two brothers were still fishing in a desultory fashion and every few minutes, one of my brothers would pull the fish out of the water on the stringer to look at it. Dad was napping in the front of the boat. After a while, he woke up and said it's time to go in. So he goes to the back of the boat to haul the fish out of the water. He pulls on the stringer thinking the fish is still on there and fell back with an empty stringer. Dad was hot and I don't mean because of the desert sun in the middle of this lake, IYKWIM.

So he gets the boat headed back in and after a few minutes and a couple of miles back to the landing, the dang boat coasted to a stop, but the motor was still running. So he pulled the motor up and found that the damn propeller had come off. Thankfully, we were finally able to flag another boater down and get a tow back to shore.

Now that's a true fish story.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 08:37 PM (IRos+)

85 We had a place on the water on Tierra Verde Island in St.. Pete. Porpoise used to swim under the docks at night (we'd hear them blowing) chasing mullet. Mullet used to shoot straight out of the water to get away and land right on the lawn.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 08, 2020 08:38 PM (hmgiv)

86 Latched onto...

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 08:38 PM (IRos+)

87 I found the fly casting lessons at the local Orvis to be very helpful. They didn't make me a good caster but showed the basics and gave a realistic idea of how far to cast to be effective. Not as far as I thought.
Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 08:21 PM (7EjX1)

Thanks! I am very much looking forward to it. Surprise Christmas present. I love Montana.

Posted by: Chris not rock at February 08, 2020 08:38 PM (WO0/g)

88 Traveling Man..

Are there still corvina in Salton Sea?

Millions of dead fish and bits of marine debris line the shores of the Salton Sea. Corvina and sargo once thrived, but have perished due to ever increasing salinity. Now the waters are home to an estimated 400 million tilapia. There is no limit on how many fishermen may take.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 08, 2020 08:41 PM (hmgiv)

89 Not really. Apparently there are two kinds of Bonito.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 08:42 PM (IsG7k)

90 89 Not really. Apparently there are two kinds of Bonito.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 08:42 PM (IsG7k)

Sad about Sonny Bonito.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 08, 2020 08:43 PM (hmgiv)

91 The Salton Sea. I giveth and taketh away.

Posted by: God at February 08, 2020 08:43 PM (IsG7k)

92 If a fish has not spent at least 85% of its life in salt water, it is not edible. (The missing 15% is generous account for salmon that leave the sea to spawn.)

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at February 08, 2020 08:45 PM (rxdfD)

93 Taken back behind my house on a pond. I swear this bird snagged my pet catfish "Charlie"

This bird is a troublemaker

My brother ran over our pet eastern fence lizard, mom called him 'Fred', in the driveway a couple of years ago. I'd dodged him for years, as he liked to hang out under the cars.

'Fred' really didn't fear us.

And as a southern Gulf denizen, speckled trout is good eatin', yo! I've caught a few.

And for those interested, my latest info is that the daily limit is 15 fish, and the minimum length is 15".

I think my maximum catch was '2'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 08, 2020 08:45 PM (wwSQm)

94 Data from http://windy.com shows a massive release of sulfur dioxide gas from the outskirts of Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matters. Levels are elevated, even compared with the rest of China.

https://mobile.twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/ 1226267582740811777

Holy Fuck.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 08, 2020 08:47 PM (m6sQw)

95 In Summer, as a kid, I'd fly fish for bluegills (a member of the more generic class of "panfish") in ponds in NJ with little cork poppers at dusk. They'd smash 'em almost as soon as the popper touched down. After catching a bucket full, we would fry them in an Iron skillet over a wood fire on the bank. Great memories! On a side note, also remember catching Weakies and Kingfish in the surf down the shore. Nothing like eating fresh fish one caught oneself.

Posted by: jollyr at February 08, 2020 08:47 PM (pKLt4)

96 I used to work for Holly Sugar. They had a factory near Brawley CA. close to the Salton Sea. Never went to see the Salton Sea. I think it had already gone to hell when I was there.

Posted by: Ronster at February 08, 2020 08:48 PM (uOkQY)

97 Burning of lots of bodies. Dear Lord, please have mercy.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 08:48 PM (IsG7k)

98 Walleye deep fried in beer batter will change your life

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2020 08:48 PM (3r+yB)

99 The Salton Sea. I giveth and taketh away.

Posted by: God at February 08, 2020 08:43 PM (IsG7k)

The Salton Sea was a human fuckup, and is returning to its original status as a nothingburger.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 08, 2020 08:48 PM (wwSQm)

100 ACE, sign up for verification by Brave. Then you can collect money from people who browse on your site with the browser, which they should be doing anyways.
It is run by Brandon Eich who got fired by Mozilla for supporting Prop 8 in California, and the browser is made with privacy in mind.

Posted by: MikeN at February 08, 2020 08:48 PM (o/eHL)

101 Greetings from Minnesota where:
Crappies are one of the tastiest fish around, and
where it's spelled 'Ice Fishing' but it's pronounced 'Don't worry about your beer getting warm.'

Posted by: Fritzy at February 08, 2020 08:49 PM (VY+MJ)

102 For those seeking amusement, watch a class of folks learning to fly fish who grew up surf casting. Instead of relying on sinkers measured in ounces, fly casting is all technique. The new approach versus umpty-umph years of muscle memory produces 'interesting' results.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 08:50 PM (7EjX1)

103 The Salton Sea was formed by a great flood of the Colorado River and a yuge amount of water going sideways. Eventually, the water is going to dry up.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 08:51 PM (IsG7k)

104 haha Gunslinger fishes around Colusa. I know it well.

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at February 08, 2020 08:51 PM (CLteG)

105 CB, I looked up the history of the Salton Sea and evidently, that area used to flood periodically every few thousand years, from the Colorado River, before it's course changed to what it is at present. Also, the Salton Sea is dead center on the San Andreas Fault line.

I think part of the reason the lake is failing is because there's not much inflow of water and most of what does go back in the lake is drainage from the agriculture surrounding the lake, pesticides, ect.

All the former resorts are now ghost towns and I honestly don't know what kind of fish are left there, having left California for WNC in '75 and never looking back.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 08:51 PM (IRos+)

106 Sonny Bono was big on restoring the Salton Sea or whatever before he went skiing.

Anything to get away from Cher and Chaz.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2020 08:52 PM (Z+IKu)

107 Anyone been to the Pro Bass Shop megastore in Memphis? I saw it on one of those Discovery shows about megastores. It's laid out in sections that mirrors the different wildlife sections of the USA .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2020 08:52 PM (2DOZq)

108 Back in the late 70s, a friend and colleague wanted to take me and my wife fishing on the Salton Sea. Her pregnancy with our second child axed that plan.
Back then, it was still nice.

Posted by: JAS at February 08, 2020 08:54 PM (IsG7k)

109 My dad taught me fly fishing when I was a kid.

The idea is to cast the line, not the fly.

Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2020 08:58 PM (l3+k2)

110 Walleye deep fried in beer batter will change your life

+1

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 08, 2020 08:58 PM (EgshT)

111 Salton Sea was a weird movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 08, 2020 09:00 PM (uKj5K)

112 faster than lightening, bitchez!

Posted by: Flipper at February 08, 2020 09:00 PM (CLteG)

113 ahem, lightning. So I've been drinking...

Posted by: Flipper at February 08, 2020 09:01 PM (CLteG)

114 109. Yep.

Posted by: jollyr at February 08, 2020 09:02 PM (pKLt4)

115 What's the fish they catch in the harbors of Lake Michigan and fry right there. They are small fish and run only in the spring.

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 09:03 PM (a4qVe)

116 Walleye deep fried in beer batter will change your life

+1
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 08, 2020 08:58 PM (EgshT)

Walleye is over rated. I've had it deep fried and blackened and wasn't impressed. But then again, I'm not much of a fresh water fish water. Give me a big slab of Mahi Mahi or Swordfish any day.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 09:04 PM (IRos+)

117 smelt

Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2020 09:04 PM (l3+k2)

118 117 THANK YOU!! My brain got stuck!

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 09:05 PM (a4qVe)

119 faster than lightening, bitchez!

Posted by: Flipper at February 08, 2020 09:00 PM (CLteG)
113 ahem, lightning. So I've been drinking...

Posted by: Flipper at February 08, 2020 09:01 PM (CLteG)

Lightening -- Michael Jackson

Lightning -- That flashy blue spiked sky-stuff.

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 08, 2020 09:06 PM (wwSQm)

120 Basically any saltwater fish > any freshwater fish. Among freshwater fishes any cold water fish > any warm water fish.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 09:06 PM (gd9RK)

121 115 I think they are sunfish or crappies

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at February 08, 2020 09:07 PM (CLteG)

122 I caught the weirdest fish today. At first it appeared to be a baby shark, which would have been astonishing in a freshwater river 400 miles inland. Then it seemed to be a smallish and deformed walleye. Turned out to be a baby sturgeon. Anyone else ever seen one in the wild let alone caught one?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 08, 2020 09:07 PM (yMibb)

123 Anyone remember the fly fishing scenes in the movie, A River Runs Through It? Heaven.

Posted by: jollyr at February 08, 2020 09:07 PM (pKLt4)

124 117 I smelt my crappie.
not good.

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at February 08, 2020 09:09 PM (CLteG)

125 Definitely take the class at Orvis. My son, FIL, and I took it. They do a great job of teaching the basics and help with casting. The had one instructor for each two students. All were very helpful. There was a lot of hands on time.

By contrast, the Bass Pro class was one instructor for 15 to 20 students. Not a lot of individual instruction.

I took both in Denver, so I don't know if other places are different.

Posted by: Trog04 at February 08, 2020 09:10 PM (u/qoh)

126 Trump poisoned my cat @ 122- Did you make caviar?

Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2020 09:10 PM (UUkQp)

127 Turned out to be a baby sturgeon. Anyone else ever seen one in the wild let alone caught one?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 08, 2020 09:07 PM (yMibb)

When visiting grandparents in Idaho, hooked a couple, but was never able to bring them in. Evidently they reach several hundred pounds in weight. Was fishing in the Snake River outside of Boise.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 09:12 PM (IRos+)

128 @126:

Threw it back. State crime to keep one here.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 08, 2020 09:12 PM (yMibb)

129 @128:

This one didn't weigh two pounds.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 08, 2020 09:14 PM (yMibb)

130 f you had seen what I have, you would never eat crab again.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 08, 2020 08:24 PM (nIvDu)
~~~~~

Dead bodies?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 08, 2020 09:14 PM (sGotD)

131 And 4, you are correct, my GM always pronounced it "croppie."

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 08, 2020 08:36 PM

Makes sense, I'm a Tennessee native.

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 09:15 PM (OMsf+)

132 107 Anyone been to the Pro Bass Shop megastore in Memphis?

Stopped in there once on a road trip to east TN. I've described it to friends as "the Vegas of Bass Pro stores." Kind of sucked having to pay to take the elevator to the restaurant level but the view from the observation deck is cool. And I liked the steampunk fish sculptures hanging from the ceiling.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 08, 2020 09:16 PM (gYBEQ)

133 The 100 pound Chinook salmon in WA state.

It actually could return.

I have been following this story since I was a teen. Hopefully, Little LCD can catch one of those 100 pounders someday.

The Elwha Dam and Glines Canyon Dam on the Elwha River of the Olympic Peninsula were built in violation of an 1890 law which required fish passage facilities on dams wherever food fish are wont to ascend. The logging companies were so powerful that the fisheries commissioner allowed them to get by with a hatchery, that never worked, instead of the required passage facilities.

The dams blocked miles and miles of premium salmon and steelhead spawning grounds in Olympic National Park which produced enormous Chinook salmon that were reported to have reached 100 pounds and are thought to have been up to 12 years old!

Now the dams are going to be removed nearly 100 years after their construction. Will the 100 lb Chinook return?

Since these dams were torn down in 2012 (took about 7 months), the 70 miles of spawning ground is now open again. It was a joint effort between the WA state fisheries dept, Native American tribes, and the Fed Govt. Lots of local volunteers, too.

The great news is that there are some fish that still retain the same genetics as their elders. And now the dams are gone, the difficult canyons they had to traverse have now returned. These canyons are thought to create the conditions to a stronger fish, capable of getting past the canyons to spawn.

After lots of study, speculation why the chinook grew that big has to do with the original spawning grounds. The dams eliminated them. Now, those conditions are again active, and hopefully, the fish that took 12 years to return to spawn are recreating this part of the restoration, too.

A lot has been learned over the past couple of years, after the ecosystem has started to be restored.

There are two steelhead runs on the river, a winter and summer run.
The summer run was thought to be extinct by 2010. The winter run was a shadow of what it once was.

But a couple of years after the dams were taken down and the ecosystem restored back to natural, a 2019 visual survey from snorkelers counted 216 summer cutts! And they think that number is conservative, by maybe 60%. And the winter run is quickly growing again, too.

It is really an outstanding story.

Book your fishing tour for the opening season of 2035 soon.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 09:16 PM (sy5kK)

134 When visiting grandparents in Idaho, hooked a couple, but was never able to bring them in. Evidently they reach several hundred pounds in weight. Was fishing in the Snake River outside of Boise.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 09:12 PM (IRos+)

Sturgeon are practically prehistoric. Like sharks, they have no real bones, just cartilage. Not much for teeth, either. They just hoover up dead stuff off the bottom. Mighty fine eating, though.

I have an old photo of my grandfather posed with an 886 pound sturgeon taken in the Fraser River. It was about nine feet long.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2020 09:17 PM (LxWV7)

135 Anyone been to the Pro Bass Shop megastore in
Memphis? I saw it on one of those Discovery shows about megastores.
It's laid out in sections that mirrors the different wildlife sections
of the USA .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2020 08:52 PM

If you're in the area and have the time, it's worth the trip. You can take the elevator to the top of the pyramid as well.

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 09:17 PM (OMsf+)

136 123 Anyone remember the fly fishing scenes in the movie, A River Runs Through It? Heaven.
Posted by: jollyr

Yes. It's the only thing about that movie that I even remember. Lovely scenery. That was shot in the Canadian Rockies, I think.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 08, 2020 09:17 PM (Z4IaM)

137 I don't think I ate any freshwater fish until I was an adult. Then a friend took me fishing in Virginia. We caught a huge mess of bluegill and crappie on light spinning gear. The filets were small but so tasty. Of course this was warm fresh water.

Then I got to try some fresh caught (no, I didn't catch them, wish I had) cold water fish like walleye and perch in Wisconsin. OMG, they were so good. Fortunately, the restaurant knew how to prepare them. If Wisconsin state law doesn't mandate beer be served with these dishes, it should.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 09:18 PM (7EjX1)

138 And 4, you are correct, my GM always pronounced it "croppie."
Posted by: Dr Alice at February 08, 2020 08:36 PM
~~~~~

Was she Irish? Croppy was a name for a rebel in the Easter Rising.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 08, 2020 09:18 PM (sGotD)

139 Do not stop in Memphis. Stay on the interstate and just keep going.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 08, 2020 09:20 PM (HuH1F)

140 122 I caught the weirdest fish today. At first it appeared to be a baby shark, which would have been astonishing in a freshwater river 400 miles inland. Then it seemed to be a smallish and deformed walleye. Turned out to be a baby sturgeon. Anyone else ever seen one in the wild let alone caught one?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 08, 2020 09:07 PM (yMibb)

Columbia River has lots of sturgeon. Some are huge.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 09:20 PM (sy5kK)

141 The Olympic Peninsula is a goddamn earthly treasure

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at February 08, 2020 09:22 PM (CLteG)

142 I am going to hit the rack and dream of the catfish I ate today.

Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2020 09:22 PM (UUkQp)

143 Book your fishing tour for the opening season of 2035 soon.

That's an awesome story, LCD. We've been talking about things like that in a group called Sea-Run Brook Trout on FB. People have tried to introduce coho salmon and sea run brown trout to Massachusetts waters, but it's stupid to introduce exotics to places where you've wiped out the real fish.

Restore the habitat and the real fish have a chance to come back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 09:22 PM (gd9RK)

144 I caught a baby sturgeon on the Rogue back in the 60's. My grandfather took it to the Coast Guard to find out what is was. The Coasties said to never do that again.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 08, 2020 09:25 PM (HuH1F)

145 You know what would be a worthwhile project? Compile a multi-media atlas of North American gamefish. Travel all over North America, visiting the various fishing sites, ponds, lakes, rivers, ocean, and take video of the fish that caught, and interview the people doing the fishing to get a little local lore on the fish, and especially what it's local/regional name is, and how it is pronounced.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2020 09:27 PM (LxWV7)

146 143 Book your fishing tour for the opening season of 2035 soon.

That's an awesome story, LCD. We've been talking about things like that in a group called Sea-Run Brook Trout on FB. People have tried to introduce coho salmon and sea run brown trout to Massachusetts waters, but it's stupid to introduce exotics to places where you've wiped out the real fish.

Restore the habitat and the real fish have a chance to come back.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 09:22 PM (gd9RK)

Ya, out west, programs are sprouting up to remove brook trout from streams to give the native bull trout a chance. The brookies are dominant mofos and rape and pillage the other species. I love brook trout myself. All trout for that matter.

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at February 08, 2020 09:28 PM (CLteG)

147 Well, we have true cod, long cod and rockcod (rock fish, not a true cod) out here in the PNW.

All good. Hell eyed rock fish are my favorite.

Sole and flounder are also yummy.

Then there's the salmon. Pink,dog, silver, humpy, king. I'm sure I'm
Missing some.

Trout, we have brown, brookies and rainbow.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 08, 2020 09:34 PM (PkVlr)

148 Bander, Thanks for another fishing thread. Always an enjoyable time.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2020 09:34 PM (7EjX1)

149 I'm hoping to apply those fly fishing lessons in Eastern Washington and (gulp) beyond!

Posted by: scrood at February 08, 2020 09:37 PM (RGVbn)

150 *ling cod
And yellow eyed rockfish

Darn ottercucumber

Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 08, 2020 09:39 PM (PkVlr)

151 Then there's the salmon. Pink,dog, silver, humpy, king. I'm sure I'm Missing some.

There are five Pacific salmon species, but -- per our theme -- there are a bunch of names for them.

King, Silver, Chum (dog), Coho, and I think Pink is the name for something else. Five fish, prolly twenty names.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 09:39 PM (gd9RK)

152 Was she Irish? Croppy was a name for a rebel in the Easter Rising.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 08, 2020 09:18 PM (sGotD)

Think it is older than that. Patrick O'Brien has Aubrey humming a song "Croppies Lie Down" about a 1790 Irish Revolt that bothers Irishmen Maturin and his first mate who was a revolutionary.

He could be wrong, but a lot of his history is good.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 08, 2020 09:40 PM (eoQWY)

153 At first it appeared to be a baby shark...
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 08, 2020 09:07 PM

Now I have an earworm.

https://youtu.be/XqZsoesa55w

Posted by: Bert G at February 08, 2020 09:41 PM (OMsf+)

154 OT

Orson Bean died at 91, his daughter married Andrew Breitbart, and was the guy to turn Breitbart conservative from a raging liberal.

Reading up on him, he gave an interview that described the '50's Commie scare - McCarthy stuff.

What I never knew was that there was a precursor to that, that involved a bunch of Hollywood commies shutting out conservative actors/writers from jobs. Bean said he was not aware of anyone ever writing about it.

Seems to me to change the context of the entire McCarthy/Hollywood/Commie story.

Bean, story from Breitbart:

In the fifties, there was the blacklist, the Hollywood Ten. There was something that preceded it, that to my knowledge has never been written about, which was a group of communists in the film industry who were directors, screenwriters, or producers who would only use fellow communists or actors who they hoped they could persuade to become communists in their movies, said Bean.

And there was a lot of bitterness on the part of right-wing actors that they were blacked out of a lot of these movies, and this preceded the left-wing blacklist that happened, because there were these communist directors who were blacklisting not just right-wingers, but non-communists, and out of this came this rage on the part of the right, and they began calling everyone who didn't agree with them a communist.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 09:41 PM (sy5kK)

155 ling cod
And yellow eyed rockfish

Darn ottercucumber
Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 08, 2020 09:39 PM (PkVlr)

We used to catch Ling Cod outside of San Diego Harbour . Ugly ass fish, but oh so good eating.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 08, 2020 09:43 PM (IRos+)

156 136 - puddleglum. The Rockies for sure but I think those scenes were mostly filmed in Montana, on the Gallatin River.

Posted by: jollyr at February 08, 2020 09:47 PM (pKLt4)

157 150 *ling cod
And yellow eyed rockfish

Darn ottercucumber
Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 08, 2020 09:39 PM (PkVlr)

Surprise!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 08, 2020 09:48 PM (NWiLs)

158

Chinook - aka, King
Sockeye - aka Red
Silver - aka Coho
Pink - aka Humpie
Chum - aka Dog Salmon

Sockeye eat mostly plankton and flies, not herring or candlefish like the others.

I listed the 5 species in the preference that I want them on my plate.

Note, some other people put the Sockeye at the top of the eating chain.

It is actually my 1A, not my #2.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 09:51 PM (sy5kK)

159 158. This is what I find frustrating as each of these fish have multiple names. The flavor and texture can be very different so it adds to the fish challenge so-to-speak.

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 09:55 PM (a4qVe)

160 150 *ling cod
And yellow eyed rockfish

Darn ottercucumber
Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 08, 2020 09:39 PM (PkVlr)

nurse,

any thoughts yet about the PacNWMoMe yet?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 09:55 PM (sy5kK)

161 Abe Vigoda.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 08, 2020 09:58 PM (93FI+)

162 any thoughts yet about the PacNWMoMe yet?

It's going to be in Fairfax, VA in May.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 09:58 PM (gd9RK)

163 159 158. This is what I find frustrating as each of these fish have multiple names. The flavor and texture can be very different so it adds to the fish challenge so-to-speak.
Posted by: Cheribebe at February 08, 2020 09:55 PM (a4qVe)

agreed.

print out my list and take it with you the next time you go to the fish market.

Chum is mush. Pinks are a little better, but low oil/fat content doesn't help.

Most AK salmon that is whole body, head off, frozen and then sold in the off season is Coho salmon, sometimes if lucky, Sockeye salmon.

But for me, a 20+ pound king, slowly cooked over open alder wood fire coals is heavenly. Exactly as the Native Puget Sounders cooked it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 10:00 PM (sy5kK)

164 162 any thoughts yet about the PacNWMoMe yet?

It's going to be in Fairfax, VA in May.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 08, 2020 09:58 PM (gd9RK)

Whoa!

I thought the 3 hour drive to Yakima was long, but damn, Virginia?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 10:01 PM (sy5kK)

165 Abe Vigoda.
Posted by: deplorable unperson

You people.

Posted by: A fish named Miklos, but identifying as Wanda at February 08, 2020 10:01 PM (QzkSJ)

166 ONT

Posted by: hogmartin at February 08, 2020 10:03 PM (t+qrx)

167 He could be wrong, but a lot of his history is good.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 08, 2020 09:40 PM (eoQWY)
~~~~~

He and you are correct! I did mean the 1789 Rising, but wrote Easter (1916.)

Posted by: IrishEi at February 08, 2020 10:04 PM (sGotD)

168 Darn ottercucumber
Posted by: Nurse ratched

Not motherfuckingottercucumberhamsters?

Which is probably an actual word in German.

Posted by: Hans, Gretel, and Miklos at February 08, 2020 10:04 PM (QzkSJ)

169 156 136 - puddleglum. The Rockies for sure but I think those scenes were mostly filmed in Montana, on the Gallatin River.
Posted by: jollyr

Oh, ok. I just assumed Canadian Rockies.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 08, 2020 10:05 PM (Z4IaM)

170 Whoa!

I thought the 3 hour drive to Yakima was long, but damn, Virginia?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 08, 2020 10:01 PM (sy5kK)

It's RIGHT NEXT to Washington.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 08, 2020 10:07 PM (t+qrx)

171 Anyone ever fished Lake Gogebic in the Upper, Peninsula, Michigan? It's the lake that all has all these jumbo perch. I think it has the top 10 biggest perch in Michigan records.

We were up there a couple of times. Caught some jumbo perch but also caught some what the locals called rock bass. The locals threw him back in and consider them a junk fish. But we ate them and they were delicious only beat by the perch. . What else is the rock bass known by?

Posted by: Farmer at February 08, 2020 10:08 PM (Al5NL)

172 Fun post! I grew up fishing the Texas coast. The fish i always knew as skipjack is known as ladyfish elsewhere. Speckled Trout were simply called "specks." In Texas, dolphin were fish and the mammals were " porpoises." When I moved to Louisiana i had a pond at the back of my property. A neighbor told me it was full of sac a lait. I had no idea what that was at first. We had called them crappie in Texas.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at February 08, 2020 10:54 PM (d9Cw3)

173 20 years ago we'd take the boat down to the Brazos and put in where the Chisholm Trail supposedly crossed; on the road going down to the ramp was an old house where an older gentleman lived- we camped down by the ramp and this man came by daily in his old pickup truck with small flatbottom boat in bed, very early and late to run a trot line. Anyway, there was a 4' chain link fence around his house, and he would hang his big catfish heads right out front on the fence like trophy's on the den wall. There were always many big heads out there... I took that as a challenge, but never, ever got results like that. Talk about a fish story!

Posted by: LaRro at February 08, 2020 11:13 PM (+9HHm)

174 Sand bass are a huge deal for a couple of weeks in the spring here in Texas; the water temp hits a magic number and they go nuts spawning and hitting anything you can throw in the water!

another story before I crash... Bubba and I went fishing down by Toledo Bend dam. I put out a trap looking for live bait. I found a long slender fish that resembled a Gar. Bubba identified it as a Chain Pickerel. I had never seen a fish with teeth like that before.
and that reminds me- anyone know the difference between a"Gasper" and a "Gasper-Goo"? an old boating buddy used to brag about them... Lake Brownwood, I think..
Stay safe around the water

Posted by: LaRro at February 08, 2020 11:28 PM (+9HHm)

175 Oregonian here, this state has ruined our fishing and opportunities. **** odfw. Need a law degree to decipher the regs, tags and fees/fines have skyrocketed in price, they shut all the hatcheries down,and closed harvest on most rivers. Its not even worth the time anymore.

Posted by: KarlHungus at February 09, 2020 06:32 AM (8zJhs)

176 171 What else is the rock bass known by?

Geddy Lee

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: DaneSkold at February 09, 2020 07:51 AM (Y8V3C)

177 Here on the left coast we fish for "Calico Bass" all year. The real name is Kelp Bass.

They are hard fighters and good eating. Very pretty as well if you Google kelp bass you will see why everyone calls them Calicos

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 09, 2020 08:29 PM (WF/xn)

178 https://www.shogunsportfishing.com/calico-bass.html

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 09, 2020 08:32 PM (WF/xn)

179 Sorry for the late replies...

@31 "Eating some Salmon for dinner tonight.

That is a beautiful fish Gunslinger - how much did it weigh?"
It was about 17 lbs. Not my best, but respectable in any case. Nice, bright, and fresh though...

@104 "haha Gunslinger fishes around Colusa. I know it well."
Impressive...Yes, about 150' down from Wards docks. Stop by and say Hi next summer. Note the spotlights on top.

Posted by: Gunslinger at February 10, 2020 02:43 PM (R2gO3)

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