The Impeachment Farce Has Exposed More Than The Insane NeverTrump Mania Of The Democrat Party...

It has also exposed what so many of us have suspected for many years; our federal legislature is a fundamentally unserious body. It is filled with vain, arrogant, profoundly unintelligent and incurious apparatchiks whose only foci are the pursuit of the front-and-center position in front of the media's microphones or cameras, followed closely by the frantic charge into every pocket with the least hint of cash. Whether those pockets belong to constituents, donors, foreign despots or enemies of America is of very little importance.

"Oh," you will say, "we have known that for a very long time!" No...we have known of and mocked a core of extremely stupid, extremely obvious clowns such as AOC, Sheila Jackson Lee, Yvette Clarke, Ted Lieu, Eric Swalwell, and that's just a sample from the Democrats. I would love to say that the Republicans are more intelligent, but I simply don't have evidence of that.

And the Senate? The most august deliberative body in the world? They are simply the best thieves from the House of Representatives....no smarter, just more craven. Sure, some of them are acting in our interests, but only because those interests temporarily align. Are there a few honorable and intelligent among a sea of fools and thieves? Sure! But until recently I made the lazy assumption that there were far more of them than the facts reveal.

Donald Trump's appearance on the national stage has done a few things, but perhaps his most important and long-lasting success is the pulling back of the curtain. We see in its naked, pus-filled and evil glory the deep state, the corruption of our central government and the embarrassing lack of gravitas and wisdom among those who preen and crow and brag about how special and wonderful and elite they are.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 It's true. They suck.

Posted by: irright at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (RVcmP)

2 Amen to that. The masks are off, we see them for what they really are; grifters. The lot of 'em.

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (CAJL/)

3 Trump's destruction of the Clinton Machine made this possible. For the first time in a generation we're having an open and honest debate between two very different worldviews. It's... refreshing.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (SgjGX)

4 I could claim to be 'first' but I read content... so will say that this is the UniParty.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (1g7ch)

5 Don't mince words CBD. What do you really think?

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (aS1PU)

6 MiniMike and his toadies are having a Super Bowl level meltdown at DJT trolling him about standing on a box at the debates.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (y7DUB)

7 Don't be like Goldberg. The GOP may not be the cream of the crop but they are a multitude better than the Dem crazies.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2020 12:19 PM (2DOZq)

8 Nauseating bunch of thieves.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:19 PM (MTxDQ)

9 To be called senatorial used to be a compliment. Now it's an insult.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2020 12:20 PM (Uu+Jp)

10 I nooded the bookish crew down below

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at February 02, 2020 12:21 PM (CAJL/)

11 We'll be sure to keep this dangerous knowledge away from the American people.

Posted by: The MSM at February 02, 2020 12:21 PM (P1f+c)

12 I am really hoping something comes out of it like indictments otherwise the next Republican President will as sure as God maded little green apples is going to face it again.

And includes a second term of Donald J Trump

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2020 12:21 PM (ZCEU2)

13 A sham of a travesty of a farce of a clownshow wrapped in stupid and deep-fried in malice.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 12:21 PM (NWiLs)

14 I wonder if this would be the time to form a viable new party. Peel off the disaffected Democrats and Republicans. It would need a catchy name but all I can come up with is the "Sick of Their Sh!t" party.

Posted by: Bean Counteress of Rohan at February 02, 2020 12:22 PM (2+j2N)

15 I'd never been aware of the culture of unchecked criminality and lawlessness in our FBI and CIA, State Dept, etc.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:22 PM (MMpbL)

16 Supposedly the spiked Iowa poll shows Biden polling in 4th. Behind Buttigieg. And under 15% which is the threshhold for getting delegates.

Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months.

But 4th would be a devastating to his campaign.

Not the end, but really hard to spin.

Posted by: blaster at February 02, 2020 12:23 PM (ZfRYq)

17 MiniMike and his toadies are having a Super Bowl level meltdown at DJT trolling him about standing on a box at the debates.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (y7DUB)


But Hillary got a box, and bollards, lots and lots of bollards.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:23 PM (1g7ch)

18 535 asshats of which maybe 10% are worth a damn.
What a perfect reason for term limits.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 02, 2020 12:23 PM (axyOa)

19 A sham of a travesty of a farce of a clownshow wrapped in stupid and deep-fried in malice.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

Well, as we learned in an Art Thread last week, "Success has Many Feathers"

Posted by: JT at February 02, 2020 12:24 PM (arJlL)

20 Moral: there are no heroes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 12:25 PM (3OZYh)

21 The Age of Trump also brought us the ugly spectacle of MSM showing its ass, thereby alienating most of America.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:25 PM (MMpbL)

22 Hiya Kallisto !

Posted by: JT at February 02, 2020 12:25 PM (arJlL)

23 "...the embarrassing lack of gravitas and wisdom among those who preen and
crow and brag about how special and wonderful and elite they are."
That goes quadruple for the clown show called "journ0lism". Yeah, we knew they were clowns but these days they're jumping up and down, pointing to themselves and yelling "clown!" 24 hours a day.


Posted by: Ever Trumper at February 02, 2020 12:25 PM (JPtx/)

24 If Pres Trump had to debate Bloomberg, I would not at all be surprised if instead of shaking his hand Trump merely patted him on the head.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at February 02, 2020 12:26 PM (E3FAu)

25 Bill Kristol and his ilk are not part of the Clinton machine. Trump took care of them, too.

Posted by: mikey at February 02, 2020 12:26 PM (8MiT5)

26 The Age of Trump also brought us the ugly spectacle of MSM showing its ass, thereby alienating most of America.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:25 PM (MMpbL)

MSM is mostly pissed because their influence is waning...and they know it.

Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 12:27 PM (X/Pw5)

27 So how do you really feel about it, CBD?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2020 12:27 PM (jK8Z7)

28 Term Limits must be adopted and enforced.

These politicians are professional con artists, hucksters and shakedown professionals. Nothing more.

Trump and the Republicans need to run on this platform.

It is the only way to drain the swamp and keep it for the people, not the proletariat.

Posted by: Czech Chick at February 02, 2020 12:27 PM (haWye)

29 Hi JT!

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:27 PM (MMpbL)

30 Every GOP Congressperson voted against the impeachment articles. That's worth a little something.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2020 12:27 PM (2DOZq)

31 So Ted Cruz has this new podcast, The Verdict, with Michael Knowles (Daily Wire). It's about the impeachment, and apparently it's the #1 podcast in the country, even beating out Shapiro, many of you will be elated to know.

Lindsey Graham guest stars in the latest one and he and Teh Ted tell is about how they persuaded Lisa and Lamar to vote no. Very, very interesting. I recommend listening to /watching this episode.

https://youtu.be/ezrt7ZIMWMY

Let's just say Liawatha's insane stunt was just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at February 02, 2020 12:28 PM (gwIiX)

32 > Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months.

I think Plugs is done. He needs to go home and spend the rest of his golden years going fishing with Corn Pop or something.

The shampeachment did nothing whatsoever to damage Trump, but certainly "raised awareness" (in woke jargon) of just what a vile and corrupt crew the Biden family actually is.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 12:29 PM (qUFPp)

33 Levin has been educating us about how FDR and JFK used govt. agencies to target their 'enemies'.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:30 PM (MMpbL)

34 But...but...I thought that PDT didn't stand a chance against the Clown Car Cabal of commie candidates!

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always asks... at February 02, 2020 12:30 PM (EgshT)

35 If Pres Trump had to debate Bloomberg, I would not at all be surprised if instead of shaking his hand Trump merely patted him on the head.
Posted by: Brunnhilde

Hilarity ensues. hahahahahaha One for the ages.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:31 PM (MTxDQ)

36 Most Senators are just Peter Principle pinheads who have risen to the top of a political organization that feeds itself by winning elections.

That's its purpose.

Whatever legislation it participates in, that's only a means to its main purpose, and I don't believe there are too many people, if any, who actually believe in the political principles it espouses.

Once a Senator dies or loses an election, the next chucklehead rises up and takes its places, trying to win the next election.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:31 PM (hku12)

37 I woulda thunk the Kavanaugh hearing was enough to convince us of the shambolic state of the legislature, but a month later we got speaker PelOcasio.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 02, 2020 12:31 PM (DY3v8)

38 Interesting podcast linked at CTH with Graham and Cruz discussing "backroom impeachment discussions."

https://tinyurl.com/vukfr2h

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 02, 2020 12:31 PM (3H9h1)

39 I wasn't all that thrilled at my choices in '16. I voted for Trump because there was no way in hell I was going to vote for Hillary. I did pray that Trump would at least bring about a Great Reveal on how horrible our 'Ruling Class' are. It was happening before he got elected and it continues today. The fact that he has governed as a Conservative has been a plus. Trump 2020! :-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 02, 2020 12:32 PM (YcPhY)

40 We have to figure out a way to get all the Brexiters American citizenship so they can vote in our elections.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:32 PM (MMpbL)

41 Learned this back in the late 60's, early 70's. Den of thieves and weak character.

Since then, only fewer than I can count on one hand could be called real representatives of the people. And Trump outshines all of them.

Posted by: Sooner at February 02, 2020 12:32 PM (Fs5vw)

42 there are few institutions in the world I despise more than the US Congress-

ISIS and North Korea come to mind-

Washington DC is a hive of scum and villainy

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 12:32 PM (iTXRQ)

43 And always remember, the really really hate you!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 02, 2020 12:33 PM (JFO2v)

44 My spleen runneth over.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 12:34 PM (q1Pj5)

45 Well said. Go Chiefs!

Posted by: Frasier Crane at February 02, 2020 12:35 PM (dmYb7)

46 "Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months."
Don't vote for me, you fucking assholes!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 02, 2020 12:35 PM (6XZdO)

47
In the 1990's there was a judicial investigation of political corruption in Italy, the Mani pulite scandal. Basically, every party was involved and afterwards basically every party disintegrated. Not a few figures committed suicide. That's what we need here.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 02, 2020 12:35 PM (7rVsF)

48 Term limits are not a panacea, unfortunately. California has them, and as a politician is about to be termed out, he proposes sweetheart legislation (typically for a union) for which all the other legislators vote since they'll be in the same boat later. After the politician's term is over, he ends up as a lobbyist for ... you guessed it ... the beneficiary of his sweetheart legislation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 12:35 PM (3OZYh)

49
Term Limits must be adopted and enforced.

That won't help much if non-elected bureaucrats run the show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2020 12:36 PM (aKsyK)

50 Now, if only the rest of the world would admit it.

Posted by: Des at February 02, 2020 12:36 PM (L5yo0)

51 Do the globalists want a NWO? FINE. We'll give them an NWO. Except it will be an alliance of nationalist populations across borders.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:36 PM (MMpbL)

52 Just assume all news, print, TV, cable, ... is nothing but lies.
The soviets did... and they were right. We live in the USSA. pretty much the same but with stocked grocery shelves. For no at least.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at February 02, 2020 12:37 PM (pw+jk)

53 Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months.

But 4th would be a devastating to his campaign.
Posted by: blaster at February 02, 2020 12:23 PM (ZfRYq)


Nothing he couldn't come back from by challenging any random Iowan to an arm-wrestling match, or whatever happens to bubble to the top of his mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 02, 2020 12:37 PM (t+qrx)

54 Posted by: Puddleglum at February

I was all in for Cruz. But when Trump won the nomination, I was all in on the Trump Train. I have been pleasantly surprised with his policies. No way in hell was I going to vote for the Bollard Queen.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:38 PM (MTxDQ)

55 CBD, you are far too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 02, 2020 12:38 PM (DMUuz)

56 Term limits are not a panacea, unfortunately.
California has them, and as a politician is about to be termed out, he
proposes sweetheart legislation (typically for a union) for which all
the other legislators vote since they'll be in the same boat later.
After the politician's term is over, he ends up as a lobbyist for ...
you guessed it ... the beneficiary of his sweetheart legislation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 12:35 PM (3OZYh)

===
Yep and the same staff for next political douche. Sounds good but in practice it is worse.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at February 02, 2020 12:38 PM (pw+jk)

57 Preach!

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at February 02, 2020 12:39 PM (DB16e)

58 If the GOP had any balls it would start calling Bolton the Whistleblower and treating him as such. Might as well rub salt in their wounds.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2020 12:39 PM (qu1px)

59 The shampeachment did nothing whatsoever to damage Trump, but certainly "raised awareness" (in woke jargon) of just what a vile and corrupt crew the Biden family actually is.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 12:29 PM (qUFPp)


DemCong should have done more extensive opinion polling before going hog wild on the impeachment fiasco. Instead they just went with whatever the dolts in California and New York wanted to do. The rest of party just went along for the ride, useful idiots that they are.

Maybe even take an objective look at the Clinton impeachment. Sure there were some who into convulsions over Billy wagging his finger and lying to us and were on board. Some who could get on board with Billy selling us out on the 'fall of the Soviet Union' by cutting the military and selling secrets to China if that was what impeachment was about... but he was being impeached for petty shit (illegal but hardly High Crimes on par with treason, like giving away secrets). But it was about petty shit debasing the whole process, hence popularity went up.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:40 PM (1g7ch)

60 Washington DC is a hive of scum and villainy
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 12:32 PM (iTXRQ)

Pretty much.

I was all in for Cruz. But when Trump won the nomination, I was all in on the Trump Train. I have been pleasantly surprised with his policies. No way in hell was I going to vote for the Bollard Queen.
Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:38 PM (MTxDQ)

I wanted Cruz at first, but had the NJ primary mattered at all, I would have gone for Trump. I think the GOP needed a celeb to beat back the Hilldebeast and it was Trump or lose.

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 12:41 PM (ONvIw)

61 Across the board 75% reduction in salary for all government employees. Wargame that in your head.

Posted by: klaftern at February 02, 2020 12:41 PM (RuIsu)

62 Heard early on from Ted Cruz he was doing podcasts in the wee hours of the morning when the Senate finally adjourned, bet there very informative.

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2020 12:41 PM (ZCEU2)

63 there will never be term limits in our gov't

the people we want to term limit are the ones who would have to pass the legislation

it'd be like asking the people on the gravy train if they'd like to run off the rails and into the ditch


picture pigs at a feeding trough, all happily grunting and squealing as they gobble down the swill-

That's our US Congress

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 12:41 PM (iTXRQ)

64 I was all in for Cruz. But when Trump won the
nomination, I was all in on the Trump Train. I have been pleasantly
surprised with his policies. No way in hell was I going to vote for the
Bollard Queen.



Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:38 PM

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Same here but it was Scott Walker. He flamed out way too early and I still don't know why. He had an absolute rock solid conservative record to run on.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 02, 2020 12:42 PM (JUOKG)

65 "Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months."
Don't vote for me, you fucking assholes!
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 02, 2020 12:35 PM (6XZdO)


No problem.
Not after you poking that dude in the chest that you mistook for Corn Pop.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:42 PM (1g7ch)

66 Jerry...Jerry!...JERRY!!

Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 12:42 PM (X/Pw5)

67 Supposedly the spiked Iowa poll shows Biden polling in 4th. Behind Buttigieg. And under 15% which is the threshhold for getting delegates.

Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months.

But 4th would be a devastating to his campaign.

Not the end, but really hard to spin.

Posted by: blaster at February 02, 2020 12:23 PM (ZfRYq)


Everyone keeps saying they want this one or that one to drop out, or they want this one to emerge as the frontrunner, because Trump can easily beat [fill in name here].

I think it's more important to keep the Dem Party in disarray, with nobody knowing how to coalesce. They're going to cheat. It's their only way, and the best weapon against their cheating is them not being able to marshal their forces behind one cheat campaign.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:43 PM (hku12)

68 If the GOP had any balls. . .

That would require having Donald J Trump as head of the RNC.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 12:43 PM (q1Pj5)

69 Every GOP Congressperson voted against the impeachment articles. That's worth a little something.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2020 12:27 PM (2DOZq)


Sending Paul Ryan scurrying away was the best non Two Scoops GOP move since Reagan.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 12:43 PM (y7DUB)

70 think Plugs is done.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 12:29 PM (qUFPp)


Maybe, but whom does that leave? Sanders? Nah. He'd be Mondale 2.0. Warren? She's fading fast, as people see more and more of her, and she is growing increasingly desperate. Buttplug? Nah. Klobuchar? Please. Hillarhoid? Maybe.

I think it's going to be difficult for the Dems to avoid a brokered convention; I suspect only by shamelessly rigging the process can they avoid it. They're already talking about letting superdelegates weigh in on the first vote. If they hose Sanders again, antifa will go ape in the streets. In fact, they probably will in any case.

Recreate '68, indeed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 12:43 PM (3OZYh)

71 I think it's more important to keep the Dem Party in
disarray, with nobody knowing how to coalesce. They're going to cheat.
It's their only way, and the best weapon against their cheating is
them not being able to marshal their forces behind one cheat campaign.



Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:43 PM


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Hoping for a repeat of 68.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 02, 2020 12:44 PM (JUOKG)

72 43 And always remember, the really really hate you!
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 02, 2020 12:33 PM (JFO2v)

If they could be the "capitol city" of the Hunger games, they would do it. The Socialists would starve and oppress the masses and live in decadent style.

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 12:44 PM (ONvIw)

73 The would be kings have no clothes.

Posted by: henry at February 02, 2020 12:44 PM (J3Rfi)

74 CO primary sucks. I guess I should change my party affiliation to vote. I hesitate to vote bernie bros, because I think that is where Denver will go.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (MTxDQ)

75 Close it up folks. The Conservative leader (revered here like no other) has spoken:

"Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."

-- @Bill Kristol

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (DMUuz)

76 That is one of the criticisms that DeTocqueville levied on American political parties as he wanted "great political parties" that debated principles rather than engage in an unseemly scramble for power and money.

However, other than perhaps at times of severe crisis, most representative systems have the few statesmen far outnumbered by the ignorant, the prejudiced, the stupid, the greedy, and the power hungry. Get too much of the last type, system is in trouble.

Guess what, other systems have the same symptoms but with often far worse consequences.

'Democracy is the worst form of governments, except for all the others.' W. Churchill.

Far too many conservatives, because they are busy with their lives in a way that leftists are not, think one big push or one election will win the fight and then they can and ignore politics.

In this case, the leftists are right, issues of politics and power are an eternal struggle and you will never 'fix' the system until you fix human nature itself.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (EUDB2)

77 Same here but it was Scott Walker. He flamed out way too early and I still don't know why. He had an absolute rock solid conservative record to run on.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 02, 2020 12:42 PM (JUOKG

Ditto. I believe he decided big ethanol could fuel his campaign but it didn't have enough octane and he flamed out.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (Mki/r)

78 the legislators are craven, greedy and only interested in lining their own pockets? that may be true, but i don't see how this impeachment fiasco exposed that.

for me, what it shows is the dems commitment to destroy the constitution, in this round the terms of impeachment.

Posted by: mjc at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (Pg+x7)

79 How does None of The Above poll on the Dem side?

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 12:47 PM (q1Pj5)

80
-- @Bill Kristol
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (DMUuz)

The fat male Jen Rubin has spoken...pig

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 12:47 PM (ONvIw)

81 >But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."

-- @Bill Kristol


what's this 'we' shit

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 12:47 PM (iTXRQ)

82 Great news! The NRCC has extended the deadline to renew my non-existent membership!

Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 12:48 PM (X/Pw5)

83 If I'm honest I didn't think Trump had a chance to win . He won a couple of states he had no business winning based on past results. Luckily Hillary was the most unlikable candidate ever. Also lucky the Dems didn't anticipate the need to put their fraud machine efforts in those states.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2020 12:48 PM (2DOZq)

84 Please. Hillarhoid? Maybe.

* coughs discretely *
* waggles triceps *

Posted by: Michelle at February 02, 2020 12:48 PM (DMUuz)

85 I can't say exactly when the revelation occurred to me that our leaders were not particularly elite or well educated but it did put aside a lot of illusions. Its been a while back now.

I always assumed these were men who got better educations and understood things that I didn't, since I had other areas of study and expertise. But it became obvious over time that they were neither. That those ivy league educations were not all they are cracked up to be (any more at least) and that the people who get elected do so out of charisma, money, and "interest" as the old sea novels put it (a powerful patron, connections, being part of a proper social group).

In short, they are normal or sub-normal IQ people with limited education so filled with self importance and ignorance they do not have the time or interest in learning anything more, and who have almost all of their work done by staffers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)

86 Maybe even take an objective look at the Clinton impeachment. Sure there were some who into convulsions over Billy wagging his finger and lying to us and were on board. Some who could get on board with Billy selling us out on the 'fall of the Soviet Union' by cutting the military and selling secrets to China if that was what impeachment was about... but he was being impeached for petty shit (illegal but hardly High Crimes on par with treason, like giving away secrets). But it was about petty shit debasing the whole process, hence popularity went up.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:40 PM (1g7ch)


It's hard to see how it would have worked, but imagine if, when the defense was "this is just about sex," a different tack had been took.

Suppose instead of being embarrassed about it, we as a nation had said, "Yes, we expect our leaders to take moral actions, within and outside their official duties."

Imagine a world where the likes of Jeff Epstein and John Podesta had been exposed 20 years ago. Imagine a world where we discovered Clinton was not just into chubby 20 something year old interns, but 14 year old sex slaves as well.

This world might be a better place today. Instead, that impeachment process helped facilitate the far and wide business of rich and powerful having access to sex slaves, underaged and otherwise. Because we, as a nation, decided it was none of our business what the rich and powerful did on their "private time."

So here we are now.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (hku12)

87 83: Michigan, Ohio and Pennsy still have enough people who recall their industrial glory days. The donks promised them misery forever, so they tried someone who didn't.

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (ONvIw)

88
Ditto. I believe he decided big ethanol could fuel his campaign but it didn't have enough octane and he flamed out.
Posted by: Beartooth at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (Mki/r)


Strange that we haven't heard from Big Ethanol much this election.

Posted by: Sooner at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (Fs5vw)

89 2024 Election is going to be a hoot!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 12:50 PM (q1Pj5)

90 and my gripe against our two major political parties is that they seem overly consumed with scoring political points against each other, leaving the Country's business to suck hind tit

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 12:50 PM (iTXRQ)

91 But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."

-- @Bill Kristol


Isn't that just like him to choose the losing side.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:50 PM (KZzsI)

92 -- @Bill Kristol

pineapple, barbed wire, fire, some assembly required.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:51 PM (MTxDQ)

93 Congress is loaded with greedy power hungry Dunning-Kruger archetypes all the way around.


BTW,
Anybody got a line where to get the
Dunning-Kruger 2020
bumper stickers.

Any Trumper would get it, DemCong would get it,but not really 'get it'. So car should not get keyed.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:51 PM (1g7ch)

94 64, Scott Walker's donor and campaign staff killed his candidacy. Hint, his social media person was Liz Mair for example who crapped on voters in IA. Trump blew raspberries at both on the uncontrolled border, Walker started to address the issue but then retreated from staff and donor pressure. Resulted in the end of his campaign.

If you want chuckles, google Liz Mair and Scott Walker and read the stories--her supporters quoted in the stories are most of the 'conservative' media Inc.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 12:51 PM (EUDB2)

95 But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now."


-- @Bill Kristol+++
Yeah, well, good luck with restoring any credibility you might still have had once this sh*t-show is over. Dead. To Me.

Posted by: Old Dude at February 02, 2020 12:52 PM (LGXGf)

96 85 Chris Taylor,
For the most part, many of them were the kids in student government at college and high school. In a sense, they never left because power over others and climbing in social status is why they did it.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 12:53 PM (EUDB2)

97 Jerry and I are eating for three.

Posted by: Big Ethel at February 02, 2020 12:53 PM (EgshT)

98 CN and Infidel, I'm with you. I was a Cruz guy, but I was also a Flight 93 voter. Todd Beamer and the boys didn't know how to fly an airplane, but they knew damned well what would happen if they didn't do something. I would have been happy with keeping Hillary out and a conservative Supreme Court justice, and everything else is lagniappe. I have been pleasantly surprised by how good a President Trump has been. We'll never know, but I actually thought at the time that Trump was our worst candidate. Hillary was going to lose, no matter who the R's put up. Trump had a lot of baggage that kept some voters away, and still does, to be honest, but he draws new voters who don't traditionally identify R, so I think in the next election the latter is going to outweigh the former because of his demonstrated job performance. There is a substantial number of people who will vote to reelect not because they like him, but because he's more competent at getting things done than almost all career politicians.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2020 12:53 PM (jK8Z7)

99 but he was being impeached for petty shit (illegal but hardly High Crimes on par with treason, like giving away secrets). But it was about petty shit debasing the whole process, hence popularity went up.

I agree, they chose a chickenshit charge rather than the gross treason, corruption, and incredible betrayal of the US to try him for? Just stupid. Yes, its technically a crime to lie under oath but that's like busting Jack the Ripper for littering

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

100 I can't say exactly when the revelation occurred to me that our leaders were not particularly elite or well educated but it did put aside a lot of illusions. Its been a while back now.

I always assumed these were men who got better educations and understood things that I didn't, since I had other areas of study and expertise. But it became obvious over time that they were neither. That those ivy league educations were not all they are cracked up to be (any more at least) and that the people who get elected do so out of charisma, money, and "interest" as the old sea novels put it (a powerful patron, connections, being part of a proper social group).

In short, they are normal or sub-normal IQ people with limited education so filled with self importance and ignorance they do not have the time or interest in learning anything more, and who have almost all of their work done by staffers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)


I think a lot of people who go into politics are psychopaths.

I'm not joking.

Psychopathy is not necessarily people who will kill without remorse. It's just they have no remorse. So politics is a good place for such people. As is used car sales, but at least with used car sales, you have a used car after you make a deal with your psychopath.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

101 Trump is the great human varnish stripper. He has stripped the glossy mendacious varnish off the entirety of DC.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 02, 2020 12:55 PM (H8QX8)

102 Far too many conservatives, because they are busy with their lives in a way that leftists are not, think one big push or one election will win the fight and then they can and ignore politics.

In this case, the leftists are right, issues of politics and power are an eternal struggle and you will never 'fix' the system until you fix human nature itself.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 12:46 PM (EUDB2)



With totalitarians it is always all about politics.

Or , as they like to frame it, there ought to be a law... and if you against it then you are the one who is all about politics...

Total control has already been decided. If you disagree you a wrecker of social harmony.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 12:55 PM (1g7ch)

103 Scott Walker's donor and campaign staff killed his candidacy. Hint, his social media person was Liz Mair for example who crapped on voters in IA. Trump blew raspberries at both on the uncontrolled border, Walker started to address the issue but then retreated from staff and donor pressure. Resulted in the end of his campaign.

If you want chuckles, google Liz Mair and Scott Walker and read the stories--her supporters quoted in the stories are most of the 'conservative' media Inc.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 12:51 PM (EUDB2)


Didn't Mrs. George Will work on that campaign which ran out of money before Iowa?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 12:56 PM (y7DUB)

104 Bill Kristol is a rutabaga.

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2020 12:56 PM (Idlcg)

105 In short, they are normal or sub-normal IQ people with limited education so filled with self importance and ignorance they do not have the time or interest in learning anything more, and who have almost all of their work done by staffers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)

Some of them have wonderful educations and are bright, but they are as greedy as any entrepreneur and have nothing to sell but influence, so they do. All the time, they busily tell us they are "fighting for the future of (Fill in the state).

It's true that their staff does a lot of the work, but many of these offices have high turnover. They tell the staff what they want and can be quite hideous to work for.

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 12:57 PM (ONvIw)

106 Bill Clinton's worst crime was inflicting Hillary upon the nation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 02, 2020 12:57 PM (LxWV7)

107 Psychopathy is not necessarily people who will kill without remorse. It's just they have no remorse. So politics is a good place for such people. As is used car sales, but at least with used car sales, you have a used car after you make a deal with your psychopath.
Posted by: BurtTC a

Like our local politicians. The cycle in and out of all County offices. I often wonder if they have a retirement account for each office. Pisses me off.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:57 PM (MTxDQ)

108 True, true, true.
Which the Founders knew. So let's get back to their original scheme, which was to ban the government from doing anything except the enumerated powers.
Small government!

Posted by: PJ at February 02, 2020 12:57 PM (qlTN9)

109 Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:43 PM
---

Hoping for a repeat of 68.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 02, 2020 12:44 PM (JUOKG)


Who in the Dem Party would play the Mayor Daley part?

And who gets to be RFK?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM (hku12)

110 97% of politicians in DC suck ass. Both parties suck, one in particular sucks more. Make no mistake, they ARE on the same team.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM (aZgMK)

111 Bernie! Bernie!!

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM (Idlcg)

112 To all who regularly pray for Trump: please pray for any mode of transport he uses be in good repair and sabotage free, particularly any airborne mechanism.

Posted by: kallisto at February 02, 2020 12:59 PM (MMpbL)

113 @106----Yep, still remember him bloviating about how we were getting a two-fer with her. Now she's a real psychopath.

Posted by: Old Dude at February 02, 2020 01:00 PM (LGXGf)

114 97% of politicians in DC suck ass.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM (aZgMK)

don't low ball

Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 01:00 PM (X/Pw5)

115 I know we pine for the golden age of politicians but there has been such a world. Scrape the vaneer off history and it's grasping, treacherous, clowns all the way to the bottom.

We only really ever get a few that truly have the country and Constitution at heart.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 02, 2020 01:00 PM (Mki/r)

116 And who gets to be RFK?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM


Tanned, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Beto, still with hundreds of bumper stickers in the Austin area at February 02, 2020 01:00 PM (DMUuz)

117 Who in the Dem Party would play the Mayor Daley part?

And who gets to be RFK?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM (hku12)

Who gets to man the quad .50's on the restored Vietnam-era gun truck that quells the rioters?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 02, 2020 01:00 PM (LxWV7)

118 Psychopathy is not necessarily people who will kill without remorse. It's just they have no remorse. So politics is a good place for such people. As is used car sales, but at least with used car sales, you have a used car after you make a deal with your psychopath.
Posted by: BurtTC

Like our local politicians. The cycle in and out of all County offices. I often wonder if they have a retirement account for each office. Pisses me off.
Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:57 PM (MTxDQ)


Yeah, I used to have a notion there were "civic leaders" who cared about "the community."

I'm pretty sure it's all just a setup to get and keep theirs.

Just like Washington, only smaller.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (hku12)

119 How do you figure Clinton became more popular because of the impeachment? He got under 50% of the vote in both elections. His VP lost his run for President. He lied under oath, obstructed an investigation and pointed his finger at you and tried to play you for a fool.

It was the MSM that spun the impeachment and aftermath as a negative for the Right / GOP.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (2DOZq)

120 Here is how I see it going down:

They are going to cheat Bernie out of a fair shot at the nomination. His voters will be so pissed they stay home,(again).

The DNC is going to drag the limp cold body of Biden near the finish line, probably by getting the super delegates involved in the first round by a rules change.

It will become clear before the convention that Biden will lose.

Hillary comes in as the white night to save the party and finally restore order to the Empire by defeating the Sith Lord Trump.

Obama,( behind the scenes), kills that ploy. Biden goes down in flames.

Michelle Obama leads the totally demoralized masses out of the desert to election victory in 2024.

Posted by: Charles Martel at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (m/ROF)

121 I think a lot of people who go into politics are psychopaths.

At least sociopathic, or clinically narcissistic

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:02 PM (KZzsI)

122 I don't disagree.

But I think another layer should be added.

Trump has revealed what the gradual erosion of faith and conviction has done over the course of the nation's history to our society.

I do not think America is the greatest experiment ever tried because it was comprised of exceptional people. I think it's 200+ year run of unprecedented prosperity and domestic civility was divinely inspired by the Judeo-Christian foundation of it and the Founder's principled adherence to design a governmental system that mirrored that of our Father in Heaven.

The concept of men being beholden to laws that superseded all nobility, status, poverty, intelligence, vocation, and location as a societal underpinning is attributable to only one source in the history of humanity, and that is the Judeo-Christian heritage.

That all men will stand before God, judged on their character, behavior, adherence to an objective set of laws and morals, and loyalty to the creating Word is, IMO, analogous to the ideals that the nation was founded on, an was previously unknown to the world. That circumstances or status do not dictate morality and the objective adjudication of the individual.

And while the nation held fast to its religious principals, it was natural for it to adhere to its political principals. As the truth of the immortal, unchanging God was held fast, the character of our society found it natural to develop character in our subsequent generations to hold fast to the truth of the constitutional republic. Loyalty, submission, fairness and humility are what the Lord demands of us, and likewise it's what such a system as ours must require of its citizens. Where we found our practices in society to be not in keeping with our founding principals, we amended, added to and advanced causes the righted flaws that put our society at odds with our desired and perceived political ideals (witness abolition, suffrage, labor laws, etc).

But just as ancient Israel demanded a King, trading the King in Heaven for an earthly King during the time a Samuel, America, too, chose to exchange individual freedoms, responsibilities and adherence to an objective standard for a perceived security and what is more realistically described as lethargy. With prosperity we grew lazy. And now, just as what was promised in Israel in the time of Samuel, we find ourselves befuddled by the reality that by enabling a set of "leaders" instead of representatives and stewards has led us to be controlled by men with self-serving interests. We decry that we find unfair taxation, societal immorality and reprobate standards, that our children march before chariots and that we are constantly at war.

But we chose it. What we find exposed in this time is that we traded our principals for situational ethics, our societal underpinnings for a desire to be like the rest of the world, our birthright heritage as Americans for a bowl of pottage.

It's easy to look at Washington D.C., Nashville (or whatever state capital you should properly insert), or whatever local hamlet council that oversees you and say "My, what corrupt men and women do to my world".

It's more difficult to say, "Look what I, the American, and my neighbors have chosen to rule over us unjustly."

While we collectively fiddled our nation has gone ablaze.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2020 01:02 PM (C2rVF)

123 "this impeachment was not brought forward for the love of the Constitution. It was done, plain and simply, for the unreasonable hatred some politicians hold in their hearts for Donald Trump.
And when any politician of any stripe or party says that Trump's actions were inappropriate or criminal, I say, compared to what ? We do not know how or what has been said to other foreign leaders by other Presidents. Release all the transcripts from all the calls from former Presidents and lets compare. The only insight we have on this is Obama hot mic moment with the leader of Russia, where he is clearly telling him that as soon as he is through fooling the American people in an election, Russia and the US will cut a deal the American people might not appreciate."

what I hope some Senator says this week !!

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:02 PM (rpxSz)

124 102, True totalitarians are few in number but make up for it by unspeakable acts if in power.

Those on the right viewed Reagan's triumph as the end of the liberal Democrats and the end of the Cold War as vindication over the war against socialism.

Both celebrations were premature and the Republicans let their party drift into mushy Bushism--which constituted corporate--government virtue worship rather than returning to older virtues of folks like Silent Cal.

GHWB and GWB abdicated on domestic policy to focus on foreign affairs and kept applying an obsolete foreign policy meant to combat the Soviets in place for far too long. Thus, invade the world, invite the world became the std. policy. Even Wilson did not go that far.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 01:02 PM (EUDB2)

125 Great news! The NRCC has extended the deadline to renew my non-existent membership!
Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 12:48 PM (X/Pw5)

Wow you too. I thought I was getting a special deal

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at February 02, 2020 01:03 PM (P4Pk9)

126 Michelle Obama leads the totally demoralized masses out of the desert to election victory in 2024.

Posted by: Charles Martel at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (m/ROF)

Is that a bong in your hands?

Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 01:03 PM (X/Pw5)

127
Far too many conservatives, because they are busy with their lives in a way that leftists are not

"The Cheka never rests"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 02, 2020 01:04 PM (7rVsF)

128 Strange that we haven't heard from Big Ethanol much this election.
Posted by: Sooner at February 02, 2020 12:49 PM (Fs5vw)


They are secure in their positions.

And still heavily subsidized. I know that because IF (doing the math...) 10% ethanol cost this much less than 0%, then ethanol is (carry the one..) basically free.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 01:04 PM (1g7ch)

129 Michelle Obama leads the totally demoralized masses out of the desert to election victory in 2024.
Posted by: Charles Martel at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (m/ROF)


I don't see any way Mooch will end up with the nomination. In fact, it's difficult to imagine her in politics at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 01:04 PM (3OZYh)

130 126 Michelle Obama leads the totally demoralized masses out of the desert to election victory in 2024.

Posted by: Charles Martel at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (m/ROF)

that dog wont hunt


emphasis on dog

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:05 PM (rpxSz)

131 Well said

Posted by: DocJ at February 02, 2020 01:05 PM (DU2N9)

132 Is that a bong in your hands?
Posted by: BignJames at February 02, 2020 01:03 PM (X/Pw5)


it's Moochie's dong

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:06 PM (rpxSz)

133 Well, in just under the deadline of tomorrow. I changed registration to Demonrat.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:06 PM (MTxDQ)

134 The left [and the media birm] has been much more militant and extreme and deranged since the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)

135 Heard early on from Ted Cruz he was doing podcasts in the wee hours of the morning when the Senate finally adjourned, bet there very informative.
Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2020 12:41 PM (ZCEU2)

They are. You should listen to the one from yesterday where he and Lindsey Graham talk about how they persuaded Murkowski and Alexander to vote against witnesses.

I provided a link above.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (C133I)

136 Some of them have wonderful educations and are bright, but they are as greedy as any entrepreneur and have nothing to sell but influence, so they do.

The very few who are smart and educated stand out significantly from the crowd, though. And are usually despised.

How do you figure Clinton became more popular because of the impeachment? He got under 50% of the vote in both elections. His VP lost his run for President.

I agree, the GOP was convinced it hurt them to impeach Clinton but he barely got reelected in a good economy and has been considered trash ever since. I just think the picked the wrong thing to impeach him over.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

137 I always figured that the GOP did not impeach Clinton for the big stuff --- mainly sell-outs to China --- because there were too many GOPers with dirty hands too.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 02, 2020 01:08 PM (M/9m0)

138 Bitter Clinger - well said. The creatures in Washington didn't just appear out of the aether. They were voted in.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 02, 2020 01:09 PM (l9m7l)

139 And still heavily subsidized. I know that because IF (doing the math...) 10% ethanol cost this much less than 0%, then ethanol is (carry the one..) basically free.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 01:04 PM


Flag on the comment: Illegal math on blog.

Posted by: AoSHQ Referee at February 02, 2020 01:09 PM (DMUuz)

140 The Impeachment Debacle has exposed the federal government for what it is.

A Great Swindle.

Zombie Malcolm McLaren points and laughs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2020 01:09 PM (Z+IKu)

141

1999 Newsweek - We are all socialists now
2020 Kristol - We are all democrats now

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2020 01:09 PM (aKsyK)

142 Remember, always refer to Mike Bloomberg as the Fun-Sized Fascist.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 02, 2020 01:10 PM (T09ml)

143 134 The left [and the media birm] has been much more militant and extreme and deranged since the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)


I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole the election.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 01:10 PM (3OZYh)

144 The founders made a terrible error when they failed to require a 2/3 vote in House for impeachment.

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:10 PM (rpxSz)

145 >I don't see any way Mooch will end up with the nomination. In fact, it's difficult to imagine her in politics at all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara



and why would she? people are lining up to throw money at her and Jugears McFuckstick already- no need to dive back into politics

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:10 PM (iTXRQ)

146 Newsweek 2009

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2020 01:10 PM (aKsyK)

147 Read somewhere not entirely reliable that KristolMeth dropped the mask completely and announced he is officially a Democrat

Can anyone confirm?

Posted by: DocJ at February 02, 2020 01:11 PM (DU2N9)

148 realclearpolitics.com/rand paul alleged whistleblower friend plotted for over a year to bring down trump
https://tinyurl.com/werru66

Part of my already mentioned coup

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2020 01:11 PM (ZCEU2)

149 > I don't see any way Mooch will end up with the nomination. In fact, it's difficult to imagine her in politics at all.

Agreed. She's just too lazy. Presidents have to get up early and shit.

She's already got the jet-setting lifestyle with the $500 glitter-covered sneakers and the tacky dresses made from 70's couch upholstery fabric. Why would she want a job?

I mean, it's not like she's ever HAD a real job, right?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:11 PM (qUFPp)

150 To these people Trump is a sadist who rips the scabs off of them and then pours rubbing alcohol on the open wound.

I've thought that since the summer of 2016. The more they howl and scream the more he does it.

Remember the bar fight in Hooper and Terry Bradshaw gets punched in the mouth by Burt Reynolds? Bradshaw loses a tooth an grins.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (VYwSh)

151 and why would she? people are lining up to throw money at her and Jugears McFuckstick already- no need to dive back into politics
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:10 PM (iTXRQ)


I agree. Basically the difference between Mooch and an EBT recipient is financial net worth. In values, pretty much of a muchness.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (3OZYh)

152 >the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)

I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole the election.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


I think it was 9/11, which caused huge cracks in our social fabric

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (iTXRQ)

153 Part of my already mentioned coup
Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2020 01:11 PM (ZCEU2)

And here's CJ Roberts protecting the fucker

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 01:13 PM (ONvIw)

154 Trump has revealed what the gradual erosion of faith and conviction has done over the course of the nation's history to our society.

Sure, in a democratic political system, even a Democratic Republic, the government reflects the people. Not just politically, but culturally and ethically. In a society which has jetissoned all principles of right and wrong or even truth and lies, then you get lying, unprincipled leaders.

ALl politics does indeed lie downstream from culture, but culture is shaped by ethics, virtue, and basic presuppositions about the world around us. We've gone from a position of presuming that we have a creator we are beholden to and from whom all truth, beauty, and virtue springs to one which insists that there is no creator, is no truth, is no beauty, and is no virtue.

How else would this turn out but corruption, brutality, tyranny, and lies?

When I say 'we can't vote our way out of this' I don't mean 'so pick up your guns' Shooting everyone who is a Bad Person would just end up with a smaller population with the same presuppositions and cultural rot.

We have to have a change of heart, a revival and reformation of the very cultural assumptions of our nation and western civilization or there is literally only one possible trajectory and history is merely about how long it takes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:13 PM (KZzsI)

155 And who gets to be RFK?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 12:58 PM

Tanned, rested, and ready!
Posted by: Beto, still with hundreds of bumper stickers in the Austin area at February 02, 2020 01:00 PM (DMUuz)


Oh Beto, we forgot you existed. I bet you have more bumper stickers than supporters these days.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:13 PM (hku12)

156
I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole the election.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Double whammy - Bush didn't win & Trump didn't win.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2020 01:13 PM (aKsyK)

157 Loki was not wrong.

https://youtu.be/_3CZExnn8MI

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:13 PM (q1Pj5)

158 Elected officials come and go (yes, not often enough) but the Permanent Bureaucracy (Deep State) is forever. Until that is dealt with, nothing will change here at Babylon-on-the-Potomac. Even term limits won't change that.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 02, 2020 01:14 PM (YcPhY)

159 the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)

I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole the election.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


I think it was 9/11, which caused huge cracks in our social fabric
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (iTXRQ)


The power of, and, embrace.

Some assembly required.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:14 PM (hku12)

160 We have to have a change of heart, a revival and reformation of the very cultural assumptions of our nation and western civilization or there is literally only one possible trajectory and history is merely about how long it takes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:13 PM (KZzsI)

Yes, we can't vote our way out of cultural relativism and moral decay. That takes individual effort.

Posted by: CN at February 02, 2020 01:15 PM (ONvIw)

161 guys like kristol and romney are more to dangerous than any demonrat. to the uninformed, people still think those cocksuckers still have principles. at least the rats are consistently commie. kristol is the lowest of the low. good thing only about ten people read that cuck cruise brochure him and his butt buddies crank out. fuck those guys.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 02, 2020 01:15 PM (KP5rU)

162 the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.
Posted by: Count de Monet

I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole the election.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I think it was 9/11, which caused huge cracks in our social fabric
Posted by: DB- just DB


I'm certain all three played their part. So did the collapse of the Soviet Union which left people without a central, understandable worldview which they could not adjust to the loss of. And so did the 2004 election, where popular culture and the press changed from passive dislike of Republicans to active hate and treason toward them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:15 PM (KZzsI)

163 > Beto, still with hundreds of bumper stickers in the Austin area

Beatoff has made himself thoroughly unelectable.

I imagine he's going to be spending the rest of his life concentrating on his lucrative son-in-law bidness.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:15 PM (qUFPp)

164 Book thread is done?


No mas pantalones.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 02, 2020 01:15 PM (MHHCZ)

165 I still think the Dems and their Hollywood Director are grooming a relative unknown to suddenly burst out of the convention. Youngish, handsome, rich. Kennedyesque.
All planned.
All choreographed.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 02, 2020 01:15 PM (axyOa)

166 Moochie's two close friends , Oprah and Beyonce, willl advise her that

Prezzy is demotion from Queen and a lot more work

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (rpxSz)

167 I don't think politicians are any more venal than they were 200 years ago. What has changed is that the US is far richer than it was even a 100 years ago and the corporatist MSM has made a hard and fast alliance with the DC Uniparty. I would take a much harder look at that joint venture than I would at politicians money-grubbing.

Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (Pqytn)

168 They are not all bad ...

(thinks for a bit)

Nevermind. They are.

Posted by: Bachmann Hussein Overdrive at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (t3YBx)

169 Yes, its technically a crime to lie under oath but that's like busting Jack the Ripper for littering
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:54 PM (KZzsI)


Gotta disagree on that one. Perjury and suborning perjury are blows to the foundation of our justice system. Isn't this why we want the current crop of DS liars in jail? Personally, I'd like to see every official who lies under oath receive a felony conviction, jail time or no.


I do agree that any references to the underlying and related actions of Clinton would have been better taken up in political ads. If the electorate wants to elect a creepy adulterer - and possibly much worse, then so be it.

Posted by: tits1 at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (YqED9)

170 > So did the collapse of the Soviet Union which left people without a central, understandable worldview which they could not adjust to the loss of.

They thought the Soviets were gonna win.

They've still never forgiven Reagan for that.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (qUFPp)

171 103, Captain Hate, It would not surprise me. Walker chose to run on his breaking of the government unions and fiscal rectitude. This appealed to fiscal cons but a lot of these folks are also open borders.

Walker foundered because he could not bridge the fiscal cons and the social cons.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (EUDB2)

172 Oops! No tits today. *sad face*

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 02, 2020 01:17 PM (YqED9)

173 I always figured that the GOP did not impeach Clinton for the big stuff --- mainly sell-outs to China --- because there were too many GOPers with dirty hands too.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 02, 2020 01:08 PM (M/9m0)


I can see that and it is more so today.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 01:18 PM (1g7ch)

174 I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which
left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole
the election.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara





I think it was 9/11, which caused huge cracks in our social fabric

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (iTXRQ)

Those are certainly other inflection points as well, the strength of which can be debated.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:18 PM (q1Pj5)

175 I'm gonna come out swingin'!

Posted by: Big Mike Obama at February 02, 2020 01:18 PM (EgshT)

176 Has everyone been noticing what has NOT happened today? It's the Dog that Didn't Bark - NO new revalations from the NYT, no new "bombshell" leak story, they're finished. They're out of ammo.

oh, there's that pathetic "24 emails" story that Schumer is pushing, but that's actually an old story from last fall, and it's very stupid. They're mad because Barr and the DOJ said "no, these contain classified military information, and you cannot see them." They're not "secret", they're not new, but that's what the Dems are down to - "We have to see ALL classified Material Ever from Trump Because We Want It!!!" Well too bad, Game Over, You LOSE!"

As I said at the time, you could see it on all the Dem Senator's faces - it was over, and they knew it. They got no more rabbits to pull out of the hat.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:18 PM (V2Yro)

177 How do you figure Clinton became more popular because of the impeachment? He got under 50% of the vote in both elections. His VP lost his run for President. He lied under oath, obstructed an investigation and pointed his finger at you and tried to play you for a fool.

It was the MSM that spun the impeachment and aftermath as a negative for the Right / GOP.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2020 01:01 PM (2DOZq)


The unfree press shilled for Slick just as much as they did for Gaylord. They always call him "wildly popular" even though he never achieved 50% of the popular vote, something even Mini-chimp Bush did. People like me look at Slick and instantly see lying trash, and I don't think I'm an isolated case.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 01:19 PM (y7DUB)

178 the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)

I think it was the cliffhanging 2000 election, which left a lot of leftists with the fallacious viewpoint that Bush stole the election.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


I think it was 9/11, which caused huge cracks in our social fabric
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (iTXRQ)


The power of, and, embrace.

Some assembly required.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:14 PM (hku12)


That being said, if one was looking for a starting point, I really think the candidacy and election of Bill Clinton is as good a place as any.

People change history, and it's not inevitable that they will come along when they do. All sorts of things have to happen, but when that person steps into his or her role, things happen.

Clinton got lucky. He came along with George Bush I was stumbling and fumbling his way through what should have been an optimal time for the Republican Party.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:19 PM (hku12)

179 152 >the Clinton impeachment. It was an inflection point in American politics.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q1Pj5)

Actually, I think it was the Clintons coming to DC that was the turning point for the country. His impeachment was just part of that. They brought the nasty with them, especially her

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:19 PM (rpxSz)

180 I am willing to consider forgiving AOC but she is going to have to show me her tits and they are going to have to be really good.

Schiff and Nads, they are unforgivable and should be damned to do each other forever.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:19 PM (HALdu)

181 > Beatoff has made himself thoroughly unelectable.


Here's a thought: Beatoff torpedoed himself because he (like Mooch) is a lazy fuck, and learned just how much hard work is involved with campaigning, much less being President.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:20 PM (qUFPp)

182 The fourth branch of government is now polling

the media just reports on that

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:20 PM (rpxSz)

183 I think the threshold being lower in the House actually makes sense in context of the founders general attitude toward government. They were worried about Tyranny and corruption. The President is one of the places where power was most concentrated in one man. If I had to guess, they probably figured that there would be MORE impeachments over the course of time rather than the very very small number we have actually had. Three in two hundred years is pretty darn low and some presidents have gotten up to some shady shit. We have fetishized it to the point by disuse that merely impeaching someone is seen as a giant black mark somehow when it should be used as a regular check.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (cAKts)

184 Tom Servo. Thanks for clearing up the 24 email deal for me. Bing had it front and center early this morning and I couldn't figure out what the big deal was. It's gone this afternoon from their feed. That one didn't make it 24 hours.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (N3JsI)

185 Yes, its technically a crime to lie under oath but that's like busting Jack the Ripper for littering
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

Gotta disagree on that one. Perjury and suborning perjury are blows to the foundation of our justice system. Isn't this why we want the current crop of DS liars in jail? Personally, I'd like to see every official who lies under oath receive a felony conviction, jail time or no.


I do agree that any references to the underlying and related actions of Clinton would have been better taken up in political ads. If the electorate wants to elect a creepy adulterer - and possibly much worse, then so be it.
Posted by: tits1 at February




Yeah think of perjury as some non-crime is a huge mistake. Similar to thinking there should not be capital punishment for voter fraud.

They are crimes that strike at the foundation of out country.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (HALdu)

186 83 If I'm honest I didn't think Trump had a chance to win . He won a couple of states he had no business winning based on past results. Luckily Hillary was the most unlikable candidate ever. Also lucky the Dems didn't anticipate the need to put their fraud machine efforts in those states.
____________________

When Trump won the nomination, I thought "damn, we're screwed." It seemed impossible that Hillary could f*ck things up badly enough to lose to a guy who had no organization to speak of, a lot less money raised, a party that was actively hostile to him, and with the entire media/Hollywood/academic lefty cabal openly mocking and ridiculing him.

But as I watched the campaign rallies, it became increasingly obvious that Trump knew how to connect with voters in a way that Hillary did not. Trump also had momentum and knew how to use it, while plodding Hillary was what she has always been -- a hideously unlikeable shrew of a candidate who cannot relate to real people and can barely hide her contempt for them. I began to think that Trump might actually have a chance, but I still wasn't that optimistic he would win, given that all the polls still showed Hillary running away with it.

Election night 2016 was a happy surprise. Hopefully, it will only be surpassed by election night 2020, when the tears and rage of the despairing lefties will be off the charts.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (k4dH2)

187 I agree, the GOP was convinced it hurt them to impeach Clinton but he
barely got reelected in a good economy and has been considered trash
ever since. I just think the picked the wrong thing to impeach him
over.
=====

However, I think the long-term has been beneficial. Think about all the employment rules and how if some person uses higher status to intimidate subordinates into sex or criminality -- I really think that 'regular people' just said why do I have to live with these rules and DC doesn't? Short term unhappiness with the (R)s, but long-term rules for thee but not for me has been a bust and a boon for the more liberty-focused.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (MIKMs)

188 Tell Jerry to have the courtesy to give me a reach-around.

Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (q1Pj5)

189 I find the Book Thread actually is one of the few that will get traffic all day as people will go see it that cant while its fresh.

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2020 01:23 PM (ZCEU2)

190 6 MiniMike and his toadies are having a Super Bowl level meltdown at DJT trolling him about standing on a box at the debates.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 12:18 PM (y7DUB)

Suppose - and I know this is way too far down the road, and doesn't have any realistic chance of ever happening, but suppose - that it's October and Bloomie is the Dem Nominee and he and Trump are having a televised Debate. How great would it be for Trump to pull out a little orange crate and stand on it, and then start laughing???

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:23 PM (V2Yro)

191 Youngish, handsome, rich. Kennedyesque.

A youngish, handsome, rich, Kennedyesque, inter-racial, and trans OtherKin, FTW !!!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Insanity Critic ... at February 02, 2020 01:24 PM (LPnfS)

192 Clinton's and Obama's popularity was way overrated

If it were true, Gore and Cankles would have won

but it was bullshit and they lost

polling is corrupt

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2020 01:24 PM (rpxSz)

193 Yes, its technically a crime to lie under oath but that's like busting Jack the Ripper for littering
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

Gotta disagree on that one. Perjury and suborning perjury are blows to the foundation of our justice system. Isn't this why we want the current crop of DS liars in jail? Personally, I'd like to see every official who lies under oath receive a felony conviction, jail time or no.


I do agree that any references to the underlying and related actions of Clinton would have been better taken up in political ads. If the electorate wants to elect a creepy adulterer - and possibly much worse, then so be it.
Posted by: tits1 at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (YqED9)


No, I don't think lying to FBI agents and the like are blows to the foundation of our judicial system. I think having a corrupt and immoral judicial system are blows to its foundation.

Personally, don't think it should be illegal to lie to anybody. Anytime.

When they hound you because they're trying to find a crime, and you don't bend over backwards to help them look for it, that's your crime!

Seems awfully close to Soviet Russia, if you ask me.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:24 PM (hku12)

194 >>Suppose - and I know this is way too far down the road, and doesn't have any realistic chance of ever happening, but suppose - that it's October and Bloomie is the Dem Nominee and he and Trump are having a televised Debate.

I think it has a very real chance of happening.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)

195 Walker foundered because he could not bridge the fiscal cons and the social cons.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2020 01:16 PM (EUDB2)


That may have been why he would have ultimately failed, but I think his campaign failed for the simpler reason that his speeches (speech-writers) and general presence were underwhelming.

You'd think his experience with opposition lawfare at home would have clued him in to the need for some fight and fire, but he listened to his handlers instead of watching/listening to Trump.

I'd love to have had him as VP and presumed 2024 GOP candidate.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (YqED9)

196
In 2016 I hadn't planned on voting at all but on the way home from work I thought I'd vote for Trump only to stop Hillary! from becoming President.

I didn't think he'd have a chance, but by 10:00 PM I said to Her Majesty, "You know, I think he may pull this off."

Now? I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump in 2020. The Democrats have revealed themselves to be power-hungry lunatics and crypto-totalitarians. On the other hand, Trump has delivered and not betrayed his campaign promises.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (7rVsF)

197 > Also lucky the Dems didn't anticipate the need to put their fraud machine efforts in those states.

Things might've been different if Hillary had bothered to campaign in Wisconsin at all.

I've still never been able to figure that one out. Everyone knew it was going to be a close swing state. Yet she made ZERO campaign stops there in the general election cycle. Not one.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (qUFPp)

198 32 > Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months.

I think Plugs is done. He needs to go home and spend the rest of his golden years going fishing with Corn Pop or something.
The shampeachment did nothing whatsoever to damage Trump, but certainly "raised awareness" (in woke jargon) of just what a vile and corrupt crew the Biden family actually is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 12:29 PM (qUFPp)

I agree - imagine how bad it's going to be for Biden when first, he loses Iowa, and then they all go up to New Hampshire and Burnie kicks ass there because he's the Hometown Boy. All Biden has going for him is "electability" - blow that myth out of the water, and he's got nothing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:26 PM (V2Yro)

199 The unfree press shilled for Slick just as much as they did for Gaylord. They always call him "wildly popular" even though he never achieved 50% of the popular vote, something even Mini-chimp Bush did. People like me look at Slick and instantly see lying trash, and I don't think I'm an isolated case.
Posted by: Captain Hate

Stephagolopis. Or however that shrimp spells his name.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:26 PM (MTxDQ)

200 That may have been why he would have ultimately failed, but I think his campaign failed for the simpler reason that his speeches (speech-writers) and general presence were underwhelming.

You'd think his experience with opposition lawfare at home would have clued him in to the need for some fight and fire, but he listened to his handlers instead of watching/listening to Trump.

I'd love to have had him as VP and presumed 2024 GOP candidate.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February


Walker is the wildman of Wisconsin, wallflower everywhere else.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:26 PM (HALdu)

201 No Perot no Clintons

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:27 PM (HALdu)

202 188 Tell Jerry to have the courtesy to give me a reach-around.
Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 02, 2020 01:21 PM (q1Pj5)

That would mean he would have to lean forward. He can't and his arms aren't 6 feet long to get past his gunt.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:27 PM (VYwSh)

203 > He can't and his arms aren't 6 feet long to get past his gunt.

Maybe with one of those long-handled tongs thingies?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:28 PM (qUFPp)

204 > Stephagolopis.

Steatopygeous, I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:29 PM (qUFPp)

205 Mikey Doomberg is a Pocket Fascist.

Carry him around in your pocket and when you see a Big Gulp coming, whip him out.

Max Von Spee spins in his grave.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2020 01:29 PM (Z+IKu)

206 How great would it be for Trump to pull out a little orange crate and stand on it, and then start laughing???
_________________

Trump doesn't need to mock Bite-size billionaire Bloomie in such an obvious way. All he needs to do is stand next to him on the stage. That will be enough. No need to openly ridicule Bite-size, which might backfire ("Trump Bullies Bloomberg"). Just stand next to him.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 02, 2020 01:29 PM (k4dH2)

207 Suppose - and I know this is way too far down the road, and doesn't have any realistic chance of ever happening, but suppose - that it's October and Bloomie is the Dem Nominee and he and Trump are having a televised Debate.
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I think it has a very real chance of happening.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)


My daytime news exposure M-F is occasionally checking headlines on Google "News." It's useful, in that they sorta reveal what they're thinking, and where they're going.

For a while there it seemed like Bernie love. Now I'm seeing hints at Doomberg love. I'm not sure they can make it happen, but I'm also not sure they can't.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:29 PM (hku12)

208 Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (VYwSh)

I thought you were dead?

Posted by: Deblasio at February 02, 2020 01:30 PM (Mki/r)

209 Say what you will about nads but he knows not to wear a halter top to the golden coral for dinner.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:30 PM (HALdu)

210 seriously though, I am hoping that the eventual Dem nominee suffers a McGovern-style wipeout this fall


the wailing and the lamentations of de wimmins from the losing side will be absolutely gorgeous

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:30 PM (iTXRQ)

211
>>Suppose - and I know this is way too far down the road, and
doesn't have any realistic chance of ever happening, but suppose - that
it's October and Bloomie is the Dem Nominee and he and Trump are having a
televised Debate.



I think it has a very real chance of happening.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)

===========================
Titanic-style deck chair re-arrangement - Anti-Big Gulp, anti-Gun, pro-abortion Mike, who is a billionaire just like Donald Trump. I'd see a lot of Dems staying home.

Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:31 PM (Pqytn)

212 > Say what you will about nads but he knows not to wear a halter top to the golden coral for dinner.

With him it'd be more of a feed bag, I think.

Academic, since as far as I know Nadler has a lifetime ban from Golden Corral, Hometown Buffet, and all similar restaurants. They all have pictures of him in the kitchen, the way Las Vegas casinos have pictures of people who win too much.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:31 PM (qUFPp)

213 "I would love to say that the Republicans are more intelligent, but I simply don't have evidence of that."



Besides maybe Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan who else in the House has called for the removal of anyone in the DOJ,IC or State? This is how bad our side is at cleaning up the swamp. There's been a perfect opportunity for congressional Republicans to do something by demanding a complete restructuring in the highest levels by demanding mass firings. Trump would have listened and we wouldn't be where we are today.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 02, 2020 01:32 PM (4thlk)

214 Wait until Trump makes a commercial of Bloomberg explaining that high taxes are good because it prevents poor stupid from having enough money to do the things they want to do.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:32 PM (HALdu)

215 208 Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (VYwSh)

I thought you were dead?
Posted by: Deblasio at February 02, 2020 01:30 PM (Mki/r)
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I have animal cunning. They try every year and fail. I've also booby-trapped the entrance to the burrow, with an emergency escape route just in case. I watched Rambo, I know things.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:32 PM (VYwSh)

216 Walker is the wildman of Wisconsin, wallflower everywhere else.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:26 PM (HALdu)


Exactly. Professional handlers, nationally renouned, Top Men!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 02, 2020 01:32 PM (YqED9)

217 Things might've been different if Hillary had bothered to campaign in Wisconsin at all.

I've still never been able to figure that one out. Everyone knew it was going to be a close swing state. Yet she made ZERO campaign stops there in the general election cycle. Not one.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (qUFPp)


Lazy, drunk and entitled is very hard to overcome. That guinea slob, Palmieri, who ran her campaign had an impossible job in trying to get her to do anything.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (y7DUB)

218 I didn't mean to imply that perjury is a non-crime, only that compared to the extensive, incredible array of horrendous crimes the man was guilty of, it looks ridiculous to be their choice of impeachment.

But again, Billy boy reflected our culture. For the first time in American history, being a philandering, blatantly lying piece of crap didn't instantly disqualify you for the presidency. People were willing to shrug at it, as long as they got what they wanted.

Like the old horror film, the problem is from inside, not imposed by evils outside our house.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (KZzsI)

219 With him it'd be more of a feed bag, I think.

Academic, since as far as I know Nadler has a lifetime ban from Golden Corral, Hometown Buffet, and all similar restaurants. They all have pictures of him in the kitchen, the way Las Vegas casinos have pictures of people who win too much.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February




heh

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (HALdu)

220 seriously though, I am hoping that the eventual Dem nominee suffers a McGovern-style wipeout this fall





the wailing and the lamentations of de wimmins from the losing side will be absolutely gorgeous

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:30 PM (iTXRQ)

That green clad kneeling and screaming 'woman' is gonna be hoarse as all get out.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (q1Pj5)

221 204 > Stephagolopis.
--------------------------------
Steatopygeous, I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:29 PM (qUFPp)


I'm pretty sure it's a rule around the AoSHQ, that any mention of George Stepingobsofit must mention he's a Friend of Epstein.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (hku12)

222 I was all in for Cruz. But when Trump won the

nomination, I was all in on the Trump Train. I have been pleasantly

surprised with his policies. No way in hell was I going to vote for the

Bollard Queen.




Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 12:38 PM

---

Same
here but it was Scott Walker. He flamed out way too early and I still
don't know why. He had an absolute rock solid conservative record to run
on.

****
The media always tries to eliminate the best Republican candidate as early in the process as they can. They didn't want Guilliani running against Obama so they cranked up the McCain hype machine until all of the good choices dropped out. They thought that Trump could never win against Hillary so they actually helped him out before he won the nomination. They do it by giving bad candidates free press, lots of mentions and interviews that the good candidates never get.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (h1jJh)

223
well, guess I haven't been paying attention. Primary laws in CO changed.

Horde poll.

Which loser should I vote for?

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:34 PM (MTxDQ)

224 Things might've been different if Hillary had bothered to campaign in Wisconsin at all.

I don't think it would have changed the outcome but it would have definitely taken away an easy talking point about how lazy and worthless she is as a candidate. She's NEVER WON ANYTHING based on her ability, skills, or campaigning. She was given it all and when it came down to actually having to make it happen on her own, she fell short, again, just like the Nixon trials she was thrown off of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:34 PM (KZzsI)

225 Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:12 PM (VYwSh)

I thought you were dead?
Posted by: Deblasio at February 02, 2020 01:30 PM (Mki/r)
----
I have animal cunning. They try every year and fail. I've also booby-trapped the entrance to the burrow, with an emergency escape route just in case. I watched Rambo, I know things.
Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:32 PM (VYwSh)
------
Groundhog singin' in the dead of night
Take these MP-5s and learn to fight
All your life
You have only waited for this moment to arise.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 02, 2020 01:35 PM (jW9oF)

226 All he needs to do is stand next to him on the stage. That will be
enough. No need to openly ridicule Bite-size, which might backfire
("Trump Bullies Bloomberg"). Just stand next to him.
=====

Anyone else recall Hillary claiming that PJT was stalking her around the stage and attempting physical intimidation? Bloomie Big Gulp would do the same.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (MIKMs)

227 A scooper for every pooper!

Posted by: Little Mikey Bloomberg at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (EgshT)

228 >That green clad kneeling and screaming 'woman' is gonna be hoarse as all get out.
Posted by: Count de Monet


are you kidding- she will literally burst into flames

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (iTXRQ)

229 Mini m is not a small man because of his size, but because he is a rat fuck mendacious traitor who would sell his mother down the river

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (wVI7s)

230 The curtain isn't even half pulled back yet. I am convinced that a vast majority of Senators, and more than a few House Reps are cashing in on our foreign policy programs. I think we're eventually going to find out that Billions are taking a circular route to the foreign country and back around into the coffers of long sitting US politicians. This, IMO, is not a partisan abuse. Both sides are doing it.

Posted by: Orson at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (7YPKs)

231 >>Titanic-style deck chair re-arrangement - Anti-Big Gulp, anti-Gun, pro-abortion Mike, who is a billionaire just like Donald Trump. I'd see a lot of Dems staying home.

It's clearly Trump's election to lose no matter who wins the nomination but if we had a real media the civil war busting out in the Democrat party right now would be a huge story. Biden is fading, so is Warren. Bernie is rising and that scares what shit out of the establishment Democrats. If he wins it will cause an enormous meltdown in the party.

Bloomberg is acceptable to the establishment if not exciting. He's self-funding and has already built a large national organization. If Bernie starts building a head of steam I can easily see the party trying to rig it for Bloomberg. It will drive the Bernie Bros crazy but it would be a conventional lose and not a socialist takeover of the party.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (ZLI7S)

232 The fact that the former leader of the Communist Party and a man who went to the Soviet Union for his honeymoon, caught on camera singing their national anthem, is a Democratic Party FRONT RUNNER shows how fall this nation has collapsed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

233 A schtupper for every pooper!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (S896g)

234 Just because you've finagled an education doesn't mean you're smart.

Shiela Jackson Lee, Yale Graduate

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (aZgMK)

235 AOC's nipples look like two sandwich sized pepperoni slices. Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (6/uwW)

236 Suppose - and I know this is way too far down the road, and doesn't have any realistic chance of ever happening, but suppose - that it's October and Bloomie is the Dem Nominee and he and Trump are having a
televised Debate.

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I think it has a very real chance of happening.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)

===========================
Titanic-style deck chair re-arrangement - Anti-Big Gulp, anti-Gun, pro-abortion Mike, who is a billionaire just like Donald Trump. I'd see a lot of Dems staying home.
Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:31 PM (Pqytn)


Right now, I think there's two different forces at work. People trying to read tea leaves and decide how voters might vote in November, and the other group of people trying to form a power structure to feed the political machine. Doomberg has lots of money. That goes a long way with the latter, even if it has no appeal for the former.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:38 PM (hku12)

237 A schtupper for every pooper!
Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (S896g)
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Oh, please, no.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 02, 2020 01:38 PM (jW9oF)

238 206---Trump doesn't need to mock Bite-size billionaire Bloomie in such an obvious way. All he needs to do is stand next to him on the stage.........
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 02, 2020 01:29 PM (k4dH2)
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It will be interesting to see how the Dem Party and the MSM (BIRM) handle this. Fancy camera work from above? Blacking out the shots altogether?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 02, 2020 01:38 PM (M/9m0)

239 Mini m is not a small man because of his size, but
because he is a rat fuck mendacious traitor who would sell his mother
down the river

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (wVI7s)


My kinda guy!

Posted by: Burke, LV-426 at February 02, 2020 01:38 PM (q1Pj5)

240 Shiela Jackson Lee, Yale Graduate
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (aZgMK)

Do the words affirmative action ring a bell

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2020 01:38 PM (wVI7s)

241 If you like the First and Second Amendments and the freedom to eat and drink what you choose, you can go fuck yourself!

Posted by: Little Mikey Bloomberg at February 02, 2020 01:38 PM (EgshT)

242 Groundhog singin' in the dead of night
Take these MP-5s and learn to fight
All your life
You have only waited for this moment to arise.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 02, 2020 01:35 PM (jW9oF)

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Alice in Chains - Rooster is based on my unrelease Autobiography. I was the first groundhog sent to 'Nam.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 01:39 PM (VYwSh)

243 Time to grasp the truth: the federal legislature is a fundamentally unserious body because the United States is NOT A SERIOUS COUNTRY.

Think about it. Not many of you, I suspect, but it is full of people who get extremely upset over the idea that when people enter the country from abroad, they need to show a Customs official a passport, and quite possibly a visa. That's just one example.

And the HR and Senate is chock full of people who began as grifters and leeches on school boards and town/city councils, before moving on up the ladder on the backs of unknowing/uncaring/unthinking voters (who will then turn around and whine for term limits because they can't be bothered to do their jobs in a free society. Freedom is hard, and requires hard work as well as vigilance to maintain.) Don't forget that the idiots cited above in Congress are very, very cheerfully voted for by their constituencies. I'm currently in the city which very cheerfully (well, at least in part, the part covered by TX-1 sends Sheila Jackson Lee to Congress, and they continue to do so, all the while griping about what an embarrassment she is.

Freedom - and the supplying of our city halls, school boards, state legislatures, county governments, and etc with people who give a damn about our freedom requires that the society be a serious one. The fact that we have very unserious governments reflects the fact that we are an unserious country.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2020 01:39 PM (x6tDS)

244 I still think Elizabeth Warren is going to end up the last one standing, like 2012 when Romney was continually #2 or 3 but every poll leader got toppled one after another and he finally was all that was left.

The theory of Bloomberg becoming the next big money power behind the Democrats is not a bad one, but I think he's too opposed by the present machines: Clinton and Obama.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

245 Things might've been different if Hillary had bothered to campaign in Wisconsin at all.



I've still never been able to figure that one out. Everyone knew it
was going to be a close swing state. Yet she made ZERO campaign stops
there in the general election cycle. Not one.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2020 01:25 PM (qUFPp)



Lazy, drunk and entitled is very hard to overcome. That guinea
slob, Palmieri, who ran her campaign had an impossible job in trying to
get her to do anything.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 02, 2020 01:33 PM (y7DUB)

Also, the number crunchers at the Brooklyn HQ were so confident in their algorithms that they ignored the reports from the ground. Politico had a story not long after the election about how Dem people on the ground in Michigan, including people in Big Labor, were begging her people to have her do a rally there in the closing weeks of the campaign because things weren't looking good on the ground, but were told multiple times to pound sand because the HQ people believed their statistical programs instead.

Posted by: Vendette at February 02, 2020 01:40 PM (wdsO9)

246 CRT, word. In a sane society, that effer would be mocked and chased out of town, nowhere near the levers of power.

Posted by: Drink like Vikings at February 02, 2020 01:40 PM (S896g)

247 AOC's nipples look like two sandwich sized pepperoni slices. Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:37 PM (6/uwW)


HOW DO YOU KNOW????

Is nap size (and shape) similar to peener size? You never know until you know, and once you do, you might be committed already.

If your a gal, and your guy has a weird or small peener, you're kinda stuck with it, aren't you?

For guys, when she first takes off that top, you're going to have one of two reactions: "Yes!" Or, "What the hell is that??"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)

248 Had a young person in church today whom I had never seen before. He is probably about 18-22. He lives down the street. I asked him, "What brings you to church today?" and he said "World events" . I didn't ask him which world events, but I said "I think church is good place to be when there are so many things going on" He remarked that he thought we were a place that took prayer seriously. He also came up for communion, which I don't always think people who are not part of the church do. Anyway, It was a blessing!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 01:42 PM (WI7YS)

249 Catch 30 is the Niedermeyer of the horde.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:42 PM (6/uwW)

250 As hinted at above; PDT is Toto... pulling back the curtain.

Posted by: Lump at February 02, 2020 01:42 PM (kIBTS)

251 Anyway, It was a blessing!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 01:42 PM (WI7YS)

Indeed! Thanks for sharing that story.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 01:44 PM (q1Pj5)

252 Anyway, It was a blessing!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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It certainly was ! Thanks!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 01:44 PM (Y4EXg)

253 247 HOW DO I KNOW? PR genetics.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:44 PM (6/uwW)

254 If elected POTUS, I'll make your life a living hell but you'll thank me in your premature afterlife.

Posted by: Little Mikey Bloomberg at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (EgshT)

255 Bloomberg is acceptable to the establishment if not
exciting. He's self-funding and has already built a large national
organization. If Bernie starts building a head of steam I can easily see
the party trying to rig it for Bloomberg. It will drive the Bernie Bros
crazy but it would be a conventional lose and not a socialist takeover
of the party.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (ZLI7S)

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Jack, it's a matter of who Big Money thinks will win in 2020. The MSM couldn't push "impeachment" through. That's the final ... straw ... I think. Bloomberg wouldn't even take VA. If the Dems go for Bloomberg, they lose 30% of the Dem Party. I see a long, long line of Major Machers heading to Trump Tower to pledge their loyalty, because Trump is the Single-Combat Champion. Heck, a little financial squeeze on the MSM might produce a Trump Wave.

Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (Pqytn)

256 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 01:42 PM (WI7YS)

I sometimes go to Church. Baptized Catholic. I missed my 1st Communion because of the mumps. Both sides. I have never taken Communion.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (MTxDQ)

257 Are there a few honorable and intelligent among a sea of fools and thieves? Sure! But until recently I made the lazy assumption that there were far more of them than the facts reveal.

I'm reminded of a well-composed comparison from some 16th-century book I read once. It's like blindly putting your hand into a sack, in which are 20 poisonous snakes and 1 good eel, and trying to pull out the eel. And if, by great good luck, you DO happen to get the eel instead of one of the snakes, still, in the end, all you have is one wet eel by the tail.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (TT4ni)

258 Biden has been saying that he was not going to win Iowa and polling has shown him not in first for months.
FIRST!

Posted by: Senile Joe Biden at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (r+sAi)

259 The curtain isn't even half pulled back yet. I am convinced that a vast majority of Senators, and more than a few House Reps are cashing in on our foreign policy programs. I think we're eventually going to find out that Billions are taking a circular route to the foreign country and back around into the coffers of long sitting US politicians. This, IMO, is not a partisan abuse. Both sides are doing it.
Posted by: Orson at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (7YPKs)


Yup. China and Saudi Arabia and Iran and countless other shithole foreign entities found out their best way to defeat the US of A was not by going to war, but buying pols and policy wonks.

I do wonder who actually pays for John Bolton to world travel. Forget John F'n Kerry, we already know he's bought and paid for. We knew that 40 years ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)

260 People always look for an exciting candidate. Someone they can get enthused for.

One thing about all this is it reminds me of us in 2008 and 2012. Trying to find- desperate to find- someone who could be the vessel for what we wanted. This idea was shown by the burst of enthusiasm when Palin was selected. Here was someone who not only got it, but also could put it into words and seemed to have actual energy and verve. Remember that feeling?

One of the things about Romney is he always triggered a feeling of being a cast member in a 1984 remake. Joyless Bureaucrat #5687. Vote for me, Citizen!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (cAKts)

261 Steyer is railing against Mini Mike for bringing non grass roots money into the process
Heh

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (u6tzP)

262 Thought experiment. Is there anyone here at HQ that trust ANY of the alphabet agencies of the government? I no longer do. I started to lose respect during Billy Jeffs reign and totally lost respect at the end of Urkel. I feel like I am not alone in this.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (aZgMK)

263 Walker is the wildman of Wisconsin, wallflower everywhere else.
Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:26 PM (HALdu)

Walker 2016 and Kamela 2020 had much in common - both looked great on paper, both folded like cheap lawn chairs as soon as the actual campaign started.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (V2Yro)

264 the Roman Empire of government ... "just take it" .. and put it in private hands (apparatchiks and oligarchs). Dylan Radigan did that famous rant a decade (?) or so ago "Our Country Is Being Extracted".


imo the depth of that is hard to comprehend and believe ... but the massive debt is part of the "conspiracy". Catherine Austin Fitts has some interesting perspectives ... idk how it shakes out ... hope it holds together through 2020 and then we get more serious about getting trillions back from offshore theft.


https://tinyurl.com/wvey3aj

Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2020 01:48 PM (Cus5s)

265 Is there anyone here at HQ that trust ANY of the alphabet agencies of the government?

Nope.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2020 01:48 PM (wVI7s)

266 Truck Monkey, I trust very few people in my life.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:49 PM (MTxDQ)

267 Jack, it's a matter of who Big Money thinks will win in 2020. The MSM couldn't push "impeachment" through. That's the final ... straw ... I think. Bloomberg wouldn't even take VA. If the Dems go for Bloomberg, they lose 30% of the Dem Party. I see a long, long line of Major Machers heading to Trump Tower to pledge their loyalty, because Trump is the Single-Combat Champion. Heck, a little financial squeeze on the MSM might produce a Trump Wave.
Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (Pqytn)

If they think Trump is going to win, the Democrats might channel all their energies to retaking the Senate so that the next impeachment attempt on Trump--and there will be--is successful.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 01:49 PM (CqE5x)

268 Politico had a story not long after the election about how Dem people on the ground in Michigan, including people in Big Labor, were begging her people to have her do a rally there in the closing weeks of the campaign because things weren't looking good on the ground, but were told multiple times to pound sand because the HQ people believed their statistical programs instead.
Posted by: Vendette at February 02, 2020 01:40 PM (wdsO9)


I heard another story, in conjunction with this, that the Clinton campaign were so sure that she'd win the EC, they took the resources Michigan was begging for and pour them into getting out the vote in Illinois, in order to make sure she also won the popular vote.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 02, 2020 01:49 PM (TT4ni)

269 One of the things about Romney is he always triggered a feeling of being a cast member in a 1984 remake. Joyless Bureaucrat #5687. Vote for me, Citizen!

Yeah like Obama he felt manufactured, like he had spent his entire life trying to be a presidential candidate. Every gesture, every pose, the right hair, the right smile, the right comments, carefully practiced and studied and prepared. Without anything inside.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2020 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

270
I am really hoping something comes out of it like indictments otherwise the next Republican President will as sure as God maded little green apples is going to face it again.

Posted by: Skip

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Absolutely. Pulling back the curtain and exposing the Swamp means nothing if the creatures just grin and spit at you and say "What you gonna do about it?"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 02, 2020 01:50 PM (13CQC)

271 262 Thought experiment. Is there anyone here at HQ that trust ANY of the alphabet agencies of the government? I no longer do. I started to lose respect during Billy Jeffs reign and totally lost respect at the end of Urkel. I feel like I am not alone in this.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (aZgMK)

Agreed. I pretty much have always had a certain amount of distrust for any organized body of people, if the body is government funded or run, even more so. That sentiment has only gotten worse as I have gotten older.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 02, 2020 01:50 PM (cAKts)

272 Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (MTxDQ)

I am sorry you missed your first communion, but I think it you really wanted to take communion they would let you if you went to the priest, confessed and received absolution.

And if you're ever in my neck of the woods on the Sunday we have Holy Communion you would be most welcome.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 01:50 PM (WI7YS)

273 248 FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020

~~~
Thanks for the heartwarming story. Brought a smile to my face.

Posted by: socalcon at February 02, 2020 01:51 PM (Roy2Z)

274 Is there anyone here at HQ that trust ANY of the
alphabet agencies of the government?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (aZgMK)

Gabe Malor?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 02, 2020 01:51 PM (dLLD6)

275 I'd put Bloomberg as the favorite, maybe 2 to 1 odds.
Half the base hates him, but the dem establishment can't cotton bernie as their champions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 02, 2020 01:51 PM (r+sAi)

276 I sometimes go to Church. Baptized Catholic. I missed my 1st Communion because of the mumps. Both sides. I have never taken Communion.
Posted by: Infidel

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Infidel, do you desire to receive Communion? If so, there is an authorized way to get that done for you.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (Y4EXg)

277 >>Jack, it's a matter of who Big Money thinks will win in 2020. The MSM couldn't push "impeachment" through. That's the final ... straw ... I think. Bloomberg wouldn't even take VA. If the Dems go for Bloomberg, they lose 30% of the Dem Party. I see a long, long line of Major Machers heading to Trump Tower to pledge their loyalty, because Trump is the Single-Combat Champion. Heck, a little financial squeeze on the MSM might produce a Trump Wave.

Bloomberg IS the big money. He put $100 million into the 2018 election and he's already spend twice that much this year. The man has in excess of $40 billion dollars, money is not the issue.

Barring a black swan Trump is going to win re-election. This is more about the future of the party for Democrats. If you think Bloomberg would hurt the party Bernie would destroy it.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

278 My hash changed since last night, for some reason. Have the laptop set up here at home (waiting on the new PC and while I love the convenience of the phone, I hate reading the tiny screen. Plus, the keyboard of autocucumber doom.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (cAKts)

279 I'm reminded of a well-composed comparison from some 16th-century book I read once. It's like blindly putting your hand into a sack, in which are 20 poisonous snakes and 1 good eel, and trying to pull out the eel. And if, by great good luck, you DO happen to get the eel instead of one of the snakes, still, in the end, all you have is one wet eel by the tail.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (TT4ni)


Nice.

I'm partial to this Biblical passage: Genesis 19:1-29.

I think that's as good an analogy for our current political climate as any.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:53 PM (hku12)

280 My hash changed since last night, for some reason. Have the laptop set up here at home (waiting on the new PC and while I love the convenience of the phone, I hate reading the tiny screen. Plus, the keyboard of autocucumber doom.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (cAKts)



cactus

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:53 PM (HALdu)

281 I bristle when I have to deal with ANY government apparatchik. I hate them all and view them all with disdain. I used to think it was a character flaw of mine. I no longer think it is.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (aZgMK)

282 255 Bloomberg is acceptable to the establishment if not
exciting. He's self-funding and has already built a large national organization. If Bernie starts building a head of steam I can easily see the party trying to rig it for Bloomberg. It will drive the Bernie Bros crazy but it would be a conventional lose and not a socialist takeover of the party.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (ZLI7S)
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Jack, it's a matter of who Big Money thinks will win in 2020. The MSM couldn't push "impeachment" through. That's the final ... straw ... I think. Bloomberg wouldn't even take VA. If the Dems go for Bloomberg, they lose 30% of the Dem Party. I see a long, long line of Major Machers heading to Trump Tower to pledge their loyalty, because Trump is the Single-Combat Champion. Heck, a little financial squeeze on the MSM might produce a Trump Wave.
Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (Pqytn)

You both make good points - and right now, in my own estimation, I give the edge to Burnie because I think angry psychology is going to beat out money on the left. In other words, I think it's going to be 1972 all over again.

I think the far left voters, which now are OVER half of the Dem primary electorate, are going to be furious that their leadership lied to them about being able to get rid of Trump. Rational people would reflect on what they'd done wrong, but we're not dealing with rational people, are we? They are gonna be like Thelma and Louise when they see the canyon coming up - they are gonna push that pedal to the metal, and launch.

Sure, Hillary and the NYC big wigs have all the money. All the money, and none of the votes. And if they really do try to knock Burnie out in a heavy handed way, Milwaukee is gonna BURN for BURNIE!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (V2Yro)

283 So Ted Cruz has this new podcast, The Verdict, with Michael Knowles (Daily Wire). It's about the impeachment, and apparently it's the #1 podcast in the country, even beating out Shapiro, many of you will be elated to know.

Lindsey Graham guest stars in the latest one and he and Teh Ted tell is about how they persuaded Lisa and Lamar to vote no. Very, very interesting. I recommend listening to /watching this episode.

https://youtu.be/ezrt7ZIMWMY

Let's just say Liawatha's insane stunt was just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at February 02, 2020 12:28So Ted Cruz has this new podcast, The Verdict, with Michael Knowles (Daily Wire). It's about the impeachment, and apparently it's the #1 podcast in the country, even beating out Shapiro, many of you will be elated to know.

Lindsey Graham guest stars in the latest one and he and Teh Ted tell is about how they persuaded Lisa and Lamar to vote no. Very, very interesting. I recommend listening to /watching this episode.

https://youtu.be/ezrt7ZIMWMY

Let's just say Liawatha's insane stunt was just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at February 02, 2020 12:28
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Chicque, thanks for sharing that link. It was a good behind the scenes recap. Even laughed several times.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (Dhht7)

284 276 I sometimes go to Church. Baptized Catholic. I missed my 1st Communion because of the mumps. Both sides. I have never taken Communion.
Posted by: Infidel

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Infidel, do you desire to receive Communion? If so, there is an authorized way to get that done for you.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (Y4EXg)

Amazon drone delivery.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (NWiLs)

285 >
Gabe Malor?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 02, 2020 01:51 PM (dLLD6)



That's a banning.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (MHHCZ)

286 Is nap size (and shape) similar to peener size? You never know until you know, and once you do, you might be committed already.

If your a gal, and your guy has a weird or small peener, you're kinda stuck with it, aren't you?

For guys, when she first takes off that top, you're going to have one of two reactions: "Yes!" Or, "What the hell is that??"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)

I read this--Supposedly nipple size is one third the size of the areole--which is one third the size of the breast itself. Sounds good, but I don't think it holds up....

AOC does give off a big nipple vibe, but as with men and penises, you can't tell until the moment of truth...

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (CqE5x)

287 I think that's as good an analogy for our current political climate as any.
Posted by: BurtTC

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Sad, isn't it?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (Y4EXg)

288 more from that video ... she says the impeachment is to squeeze Trump, to protect all the money theft from various government frauds ... big frauds, not just the million here and there used to bribe the politicians.

(this woman ran HUD for a while, and wondered, "where did that money go?" ... and has exposed a lot)

https://tinyurl.com/ubndfpp

Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (Cus5s)

289 Revelation and insight are nothing without action.

Anything less than a convention of states and six year term limits will not address the problem.

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (Dk/VT)

290 Infidel, do you desire to receive Communion? If so, there is an authorized way to get that done for you.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (Y4EXg)

Amazon drone delivery.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (NWiLs)

i almost choked on my water....lol

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (CqE5x)

291 >>>Personally, don't think it should be illegal to lie to anybody. Anytime.



Chickenshit charge of lying to the G-Men.
Used when they have a body, zero evidence, but know in their own heads that you did it. Sometimes just to fuck you, like Scooter Libby.

Just like DemCong tried with Trump impeachment.
Except DemCong don't even have a body. Just the crazy in their own heads (assuming they really believe the voices in their heads).


Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (1g7ch)

292 I read this--Supposedly nipple size is one third the size of the areole--which is one third the size of the breast itself. Sounds good, but I don't think it holds up....

AOC does give off a big nipple vibe, but as with men and penises, you can't tell until the moment of truth...
Posted by: JoeF. at February



I don't get anything one way or the other for her.

She is just going to have to show us.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (HALdu)

293 247 HOW DO I KNOW? PR genetics.
Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:44 PM (6/uwW)

Yup....I concur.

Brown and round all the way down......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2020 01:56 PM (Z+IKu)

294 HOW DO I KNOW? PR genetics.
Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:44 PM (6/uwW)

She's not fat though.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 01:57 PM (CqE5x)

295 We should start a gofundme for kids in ecuador, raise a million contingent upon AOC doing a playboy type spread.


Show us your tits, kids get money.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 01:57 PM (HALdu)

296 Big brown areolas with nipples like little puppy dog dicks

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (u6tzP)

297 What pisses me off more than anything else (and it's a long list) is the way the Democrat act totally changes depending on who is in power.

The presidency is either the subject of nonstop attack, ridicule, insult, obstruction and undermining... OR... the presidency must garner a raft of undying respect and devotion from sea to shining sea, and if you so much as criticize a hair on their temple, or disagree when the president directly insults you, or call them out when they are obviously lying, then you are guilty of no less than treason, punishable by imprisonment and death.

It's ludicrous. And they know they do this. It's not unconscious bias. The best the Left can say in response is an even more insulting "both sides do it". But like everything else that dribbles brown out of their gob, it's simply not true. We haven't even had the chance to ask for a scintilla of respect, let alone undying loyalty, to our last 6 (R) presidents because the lies, ridicule and undermining doesn't stop from the moment they enter office until the moment they leave.

They know what they're doing and that's what pisses me off.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (uEbPt)

298 Barring a black swan Trump is going to win re-election. This is more about the future of the party for Democrats. If you think Bloomberg would hurt the party Bernie would destroy it.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

To put it in Chess thread terms, Trump has put a fork on their Rook and their Queen, and he mates in three no matter what choice they make.

as I said above, I think the Dems choose self-destruction, just like Labour in the UK has. It's what people who allow themselves to dive wholeheartedly into mental illness almost always do.

they can't stop themselves from doing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (V2Yro)

299
The "Golden Corral" is what the politicians call foreign "policy"....................all U can steal and free refills............

Posted by: saf at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (5IHGB)

300 they all suck. If I hear Graham one more time threatening what he will (usually on Fox) do to get to the bottom of all this coup crap, AND DO NOTHING. F yourself Graham. you have had the power to issue subpoenas for 3 years. NOTHING

Posted by: politics uber alles at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (0hOKG)

301 Big brown areolas with nipples like little puppy dog dicks
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (u6tzP)

That's what little girls are made of?
eeww....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (CqE5x)

302 HOW DO I KNOW? PR genetics.
Posted by: Regular joe at February 02, 2020 01:44 PM (6/uwW)
She's not fat though.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 01:57 PM (CqE5x)

She will be though....give it time.

Mofongo FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2020 01:59 PM (Z+IKu)

303 Infidel, do you desire to receive Communion? If so, there is an authorized way to get that done for you.
Posted by: Tonypete

I went to all the Catechism classes and studied. Sadly, it was so long ago. Maybe I should study up.

Mom took us to her Lutheran Church back in the day too. I'm torn. I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.


Went to the kids Baptist Church and didn't like it.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:59 PM (MTxDQ)

304 Barring a black swan Trump is going to win re-election. This is more about the future of the party for Democrats. If you think Bloomberg would hurt the party Bernie would destroy it.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Exactly. It will take "events" to bring down Trump, not one of these losers....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:00 PM (CqE5x)

305 >>> Bloomie is the Dem Nominee and he and Trump are having a televised Debate.


Camera will likely be at the back of the room at the top of the sloped seating and use a telephoto lenses which compresses the apparent depth of field (like the Trump rallies, people look like they are right behind Trump, but are probably 50 ft back).

Trump will need to take a couple steps back from the podium, it will exagerate the height difference... stand ten feet back, turn and face Bloomie and it will look like you are sticking your dick in his ear.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 02:00 PM (1g7ch)

306 I give the edge to Burnie because I think angry psychology is going to
beat out money on the left. In other words, I think it's going to be
1972 all over again.


Agree. The Dems would lose in a landslide with Bernie, but at least they won't have permanently alienated the loon part of their base. If the Dems deny Bernie win the nom (which is not to say he will), they'll go 3rd party. Then the damage becomes permanent.

Posted by: pep at February 02, 2020 02:00 PM (T6t7i)

307 I was just looking at John Cleese's twitter account--because his autobiography was mentioned in the book thread--and sheesh, it's a cesspool bubbling over from the impeachment.

Posted by: m at February 02, 2020 02:00 PM (UZ8BZ)

308 I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

Posted by: Infidel

---

Please keep looking - there is one out there for you - I'm sure.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 02:01 PM (Y4EXg)

309 anyone know where I can hire some mexi-cans for an hour or two?

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:01 PM (HALdu)

310 Same here but it was Scott Walker. He flamed out way too early and I still don't know why. He had an absolute rock solid conservative record to run on.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 02, 2020 12:42 PM (JUOKG)




IIRC, he Jebbed it. If you weren't down with unfettered mass immigration he didn't want your vote.

The Polls ended up reflecting that and he was out before the first primary.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2020 02:02 PM (yQpMk)

311 If the Dems deny Bernie win the nom (which is not to say he will), they'll go 3rd party.
Wow, bad edit.

If the Dems deny Bernie the nom (which is not to say he will win it), the loons will go 3rd party.

Posted by: pep at February 02, 2020 02:02 PM (T6t7i)

312 308 I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

These days that excludes many of the franchises.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

313 309 anyone know where I can hire some mexi-cans for an hour or two?
Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:01 PM (HALdu)

Check behind the Home Depot? Always works in my town.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (V2Yro)

314
The good news for us is as long as Trump wins, we are golden like a scalp weasel.


The bad news if they win, it is otter time for us no matter who their candidate is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (r+sAi)

315 I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

Posted by: Infidel



you might find the small church is not so easy to find because small churches often are very particular about things. Not saying they are not nice but they are small for a reason.

Try something Missouri Synod.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (HALdu)

316 Trump will need to take a couple steps back from the podium, it will exagerate the height difference... stand ten feet back, turn and face Bloomie and it will look like you are sticking your dick in his ear.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 02:00 PM (1g7ch)

Trump is a showman, he knows this.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 02:04 PM (MTxDQ)

317 Try something Missouri Synod.



Yep. We have Jello.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

318 309 anyone know where I can hire some mexi-cans for an hour or two?
Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:01 PM (HALdu)

Check behind the Home Depot? Always works in my town.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February



I was hoping for a personal reference, I need some stuff moved within the apartment, not to their place.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:04 PM (HALdu)

319 310 Same here but it was Scott Walker. He flamed out way too early and I
still don't know why. He had an absolute rock solid conservative record
to run on.


As Grumpy pointed out, he screwed the pooch on immigration, which only Trump was apparently savvy enough to understand was the sine qua non for any candidate that year. However, the other reason is that while he was mostly ideologically sound, he was a deadly dull candidate. This is what worries me about running Pence in '24.

Posted by: pep at February 02, 2020 02:05 PM (T6t7i)

320 What pisses me off more than anything else (and it's a long list) is the way the Democrat act totally changes depending on who is in power.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (uEbPt)

See the Electoral College. When it doesn't go their way, get rid of it.
They are like that with military service too.
Clinton was a draft dodger so you couldn't bring that up when he ran against actual warriors like Dole and Poppa Bush...but when Kerry was running against Bush, all we heard was that GWB was "only" a Guardsman who was always "awol.'

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:05 PM (CqE5x)

321 If the Dems deny Bernie the nom (which is not to say he will win it), the loons will go 3rd party.
Posted by: pep at February 02, 2020 02:02 PM (T6t7i)

And if Burnie gets the nom, Bloomie and the money men from NYC might go 3rd party. This is gonna be great!

btw, Trump has been giving out hints that his SOTU Tuesday night is gonna be SpecTACular!!! He's got something special planned, I think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 02:05 PM (V2Yro)

322 Term Limits.

Da, that will make everything better.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 02, 2020 02:05 PM (5Zwgf)

323 Try something Missouri Synod.



Yep. We have Jello.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February



Went to one before we moved. Never had jello, but did have guns. Someone had a meeting then scraped the no gun zone off the doors. Then put together an emergency response plan.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:05 PM (HALdu)

324 would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

Posted by: Infidel

---
Please keep looking - there is one out there for you - I'm sure

Amen. I agree with Tony Pete.

Absolutely, dear Infidel. There is a church out there for you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 02:06 PM (WI7YS)

325
... those who preen and crow and brag about how special and wonderful and elite they are.


Don't let them get started on how special, bright and deserving their offspring and families are!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2020 02:06 PM (pNxlR)

326 And if Burnie gets the nom, Bloomie and the money men from NYC might go 3rd party. This is gonna be great!

Exactly. The Dems have no good options.

Posted by: pep at February 02, 2020 02:06 PM (T6t7i)

327 312 308 I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

These days that excludes many of the franchises.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

Hence, my trepidation.

Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 02:06 PM (MTxDQ)

328 Big brown areolas with nipples like little puppy dog dicks
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 01:58 PM (u6tzP)


Good gracious, I don't think I ever heard naps being compared to puppy peeners... what a visual.

Hope I never see such a thing... and hope I get plenty more chances!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 02:06 PM (hku12)

329 I was hoping for a personal reference, I need some stuff moved within the apartment, not to their place.
Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:04 PM (HALdu

LOL well I don't think I live down the block from you. I could look up Julian Castro's webpage for you, he might have an email address.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 02:07 PM (V2Yro)

330 Regarding Clinton impeachment I continue to be amazed at how many conservatives including here as is evidenced by some posts in this thread think Clinton was impeached for having sex with an intern in the Oval Office. Sigh he was charged with committing a felony for lying under oath in a deposition he gave in a lawsuit in which he was being sued by a female citizen. He was a sitting president when he lied during the deposition. When he left the office he was as subsequently disbarred and fined for lying. The rest of us would have been in jail.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (SCTml)

331 Trump v Bloomberg debate = Benny Hill vs Jackie Write

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (y/fJ4)

332 A house divided against itself cannot stand, said some guy.

The D party is divided into at least three factions. No one running can get good turnout

This will have consequences for down ticket races in swing places

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (u6tzP)

333 Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

I serve a small church. I am not "woke" The services are not woke even though I'm part of a larger denomination.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (WI7YS)

334 would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

Posted by: Infidel


Second look at Islam?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (CqE5x)

335 Walker 2016 and Kamela 2020 had much in common -
both looked great on paper, both folded like cheap lawn chairs as soon
as the actual campaign started.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (V2Yro)


I'm a southerner. I don't know much about Walker's pre-governor career, or whether he ran for governor as a "stealth candidate," not telling the voters his actual plans. What he accomplished while in office, though, is comparable at the state level with what Trump has accomplished nationally.

Likewise, the opposition he faced was comparable at the state level with what Trump has faced nationally.


Harris, otoh, is/was nothing but a lapdog and a non-entity. A machine pol to the core.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 02, 2020 02:09 PM (YqED9)

336 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (u6tzP)

What is the third faction? I get extreme left and a little bit moderate but still leftist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2020 02:09 PM (WI7YS)

337 291 >>>Personally, don't think it should be illegal to lie to anybody. Anytime.

---------------------------------

Chickenshit charge of lying to the G-Men.
Used when they have a body, zero evidence, but know in their own heads that you did it. Sometimes just to fuck you, like Scooter Libby.

Just like DemCong tried with Trump impeachment.
Except DemCong don't even have a body. Just the crazy in their own heads (assuming they really believe the voices in their heads).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 01:55 PM (1g7ch)


Yeah, I think if they get you in court, and you want to show your arse before a judge, fool around with the truth, the judge ought to be able to hold you in contempt.

Otherwise, if the Eff Bee Eye asks me a question, I should be able to lie all up and down the lane, all I want.

I don't see what makes them special. I don't see why I owe the cops or a prosecutor or any of those chuckleheads the truth.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 02:09 PM (hku12)

338 would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

Posted by: Infidel


Second look at Islam?
Posted by: JoeF. at February




You know, not for nothing, but I am pretty sure I could manage more than one wife just fine.

Think I would have been fine with an arranged marriage too.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:10 PM (HALdu)

339 I need some stuff moved within the apartment, not to their place.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:04 PM (HALdu)

Nearest high school. Hire three seniors for 20/hr each and then supervise them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 02, 2020 02:10 PM (dLLD6)

340 The mask has fallen. They have been this bad for a hundred years.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 02, 2020 02:10 PM (qq161)

341 I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.



==

Wellcome, sister/brother in faith. Sign right here, and here. And here. We are a new church seeking enlightenment and grace through good works. Giving where giving is needed, taking from where there are too much of earthly possessions, manifestation of the evil one.

Posted by: Nondenominational Church of Robin Hood in the Woods at February 02, 2020 02:10 PM (zr5Kq)

342 Missouri Synod church we went to had a member that was converted from islam.

Was invited to speak to explain to everyone what the fuck is wrong with islam.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:11 PM (HALdu)

343 "If your a gal, and your guy has a weird or small peener, you're kinda stuck with it"
~~
Depending on the size, though, may not even notice the 'sticking'.

Posted by: socalcon at February 02, 2020 02:12 PM (Roy2Z)

344 Nearest high school. Hire three seniors for 20/hr each and then supervise them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February



Thanks. That does make sense.

Do have some apprehension wandering around a hs asking if some girls want to come back to my place for $20 an hour.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:12 PM (HALdu)

345
"Missouri Synod church we went to..."

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:11 PM (HALdu)

Obviously you hate the Catholic Church!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (dLLD6)

346 If your a gal, and your guy has a weird or small peener, you're kinda stuck with it" 
~~ 
Depending on the size, though, may not even notice the 'sticking'.

Posted by: socalcon at February 02, 2020 02:12 PM (Roy2Z

*********

This is about me isn't it...

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (aZgMK)

347 issouri Synod church we went to had a member that was converted from islam.

Was invited to speak to explain to everyone what the fuck is wrong with islam.
Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:11 PM (HALdu)

I remember a couple of Muslim kids converting to Catholicism when I was in grammar school.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (CqE5x)

348 Regarding Clinton impeachment I continue to be amazed at how many conservatives including here as is evidenced by some posts in this thread think Clinton was impeached for having sex with an intern in the Oval Office. Sigh he was charged with committing a felony for lying under oath in a deposition he gave in a lawsuit in which he was being sued by a female citizen. He was a sitting president when he lied during the deposition. When he left the office he was as subsequently disbarred and fined for lying. The rest of us would have been in jail.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 02, 2020 02:08 PM (SCTml)


You think he cared one bit for any of that, when he was on Pedo Island with his underaged sex slaves?

He was impeached for using the word "is" improperly. Meanwhile, China bought him and his Party for the next 20 plus years.

So yeah, I kinda think he was impeached for the wrong thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)

349 I think every religious institution now has a lean. Every one. It is just the extent.

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (zr5Kq)

350 The Sundance Theory of Biden 's campaign is that it was ordered from the Lawfare Group because in order to impeach Trump for asking for dirt on a Biden's campaign there had to be a Biden campaign.
And now that impeachment is over Slo Jo is killing his campaign. He'll be out ASAP.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (Jj+59)

351 Obviously you hate the Catholic Church!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February



Damnit, my cover is blown.

Posted by: not so at February 02, 2020 02:13 PM (HALdu)

352 f your a gal, and your guy has a weird or small peener, you're kinda stuck with it"
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Stuck with it?
I've heard if girls breaking up with guys because the penis was too small...and in a couple cases, because it was too big.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (CqE5x)

353 Bidet can offered a VP slot on the ticket.

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (zr5Kq)

354 Huh. There was a theft near the White House of investigative reporter John Solomon's laptop, according to Paul Sperry today:

https://tinyurl.com/sqr3rgf

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (Nl8Cj)

355 303 Infidel, do you desire to receive Communion? If so, there is an authorized way to get that done for you.
Posted by: Tonypete

I went to all the Catechism classes and studied. Sadly, it was so long ago. Maybe I should study up.

Mom took us to her Lutheran Church back in the day too. I'm torn. I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.


Went to the kids Baptist Church and didn't like it.
Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 01:59 PM (MTxDQ)
-------------------
Lutheran churches? Choose carefully. Some synods are wokiest woke that ever woke. The biggest synod and wokiest is the ELCA.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (VYwSh)

356 Hear, hear.

Twitter has done the same for the propagandists. Everyone already knew the *media* was biased, but a few tweets expose its messengers as profoundly ignorant dullards.

The House, Senate and media always will be ridiculed and loathed after the last few years. That's a good thing.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (puu6v)

357 Thought experiment. Is there anyone here at HQ that trust ANY of the alphabet agencies of the government? I no longer do. I started to lose respect during Billy Jeffs reign and totally lost respect at the end of Urkel. I feel like I am not alone in this.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 02, 2020 01:47 PM (aZgMK)


The Bureau of Weights and Measures lost me when they didn't go after Taco Bell for their fake 1/2 Lb Burrito.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (1g7ch)

358
I wonder if this would be the time to form a viable new party. Peel off
the disaffected Democrats and Republicans. It would need a catchy name
but all I can come up with is the "Sick of Their Sh!t" party.

Posted by: Bean Counteress of Rohan at February 02, 2020 12:22 PM (2+j2N)


"The politicians are too high" party

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 02, 2020 02:16 PM (9Om/r)

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Posted by: redridinghood at February 02, 2020 02:16 PM (wiXsO)

360 Bernie baby, Bernie! If by a chance a Dem beats Trump lets go full commie, give the socialist dears what they want and get let's this party started.

Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2020 02:16 PM (MxEKc)

361 Sheesh. These people would not exist if it wasn't for twitter.

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2020 02:17 PM (zr5Kq)

362 Huh. There was a theft near the White House of investigative reporter John Solomon's laptop, according to Paul Sperry today:

https://tinyurl.com/sqr3rgf

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (Nl8Cj)

That's......convenient, no?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:17 PM (CqE5x)

363 317 Try something Missouri Synod.


Yep. We have Jello.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)
===
Jello? I've never had Jello. What a rip-off.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 02, 2020 02:17 PM (VYwSh)

364 Infidel, I was baptized and raised Catholic. First Communion, Confirmation, alter boy, Catholic grade school and high school. The works. Then I drifted away during college. Fast forward 25 years and I started looking for something. Tried various things and after a couple of years I ended up right where I started. At a Catholic Mass. It was different. Something must have blossomed in me or something. It has meaning. Back in the day I felt like I was just going through the motions. Now I can't imagine not pursuing this path. I hope you find a similar path to follow.

Posted by: Ghost of PugBoo at February 02, 2020 02:17 PM (ECubu)

365 D factions are progressives, minorities and career oriented women
Obama appealed to all three. Hillary less so
Divides are now sharper

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2020 02:18 PM (u6tzP)

366 nood

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2020 02:18 PM (Y4EXg)

367 Bernie baby, Bernie! If by a chance a Dem beats Trump lets go full commie, give the socialist dears what they want and get let's this party started.
Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2020 02:16 PM (MxEKc)

If that happens, I'm gonna go on the dole and get whatever free shit I can get my grubby hands on.
I've been working 40 years--I'm entitled, right?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:19 PM (CqE5x)

368 I've heard if girls breaking up with guys because the penis was too small...and in a couple cases, because it was too big.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (CqE5x)

See the movie Unhung Hero.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2020 02:19 PM (q1Pj5)

369 295 We should start a gofundme for kids in ecuador, raise a million contingent upon AOC doing a playboy type spread. Show us your tits, kids get money.
---
I'll do it to strike a blow against skinnyism!

Posted by: Tank Abrams at February 02, 2020 02:21 PM (sWM8x)

370 327 312 308 I would really like to find a small simple Church. No woke/political crud.

These days that excludes many of the franchises.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

Hence, my trepidation.
Posted by: Infidel at February 02, 2020 02:06 PM (MTxDQ)

You could try looking into the Evangelical Free Church, PCA or Orthodox Presbyterian. Last I heard they were all pretty conservative.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 02, 2020 02:21 PM (NWiLs)

371 362 Huh. There was a theft near the White House of investigative reporter John Solomon's laptop, according to Paul Sperry today:
https://tinyurl.com/sqr3rgf

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (Nl8Cj)
That's......convenient, no?
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:17 PM (CqE5x)

Solomon has said before that he knows he's under surveillance by somebody, that he even saw a dark unmarked car park on the street and two serious looking men got out and come up his driveway, looking around. Can't remember if he was there when it happened or just his wife - anyway a bunch of creepy stuff by unknown people happening to him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 02:22 PM (V2Yro)

372 f your a gal, and your guy has a weird or small peener, you're kinda stuck with it"
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Stuck with it?
I've heard if girls breaking up with guys because the penis was too small...and in a couple cases, because it was too big.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 02:15 PM (CqE5x)


Yeah, I was talking about real women, not whores.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2020 02:22 PM (hku12)

373 It would need a catchy name
but all I can come up with is the "Sick of Their Sh!t" party.


"T-Party" always occurs to me. Nicely evocative, but still... It doesn't satisfy, somehow.

But we could be organized into T-Cells!

Wait, how about the TCEL party?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at February 02, 2020 02:22 PM (YqED9)

374 277:

"Bloomberg IS the big money. He put $100 million into the 2018 election and he's already spend twice that much this year. The man has in excess of $40 billion dollars, money is not the issue.

Barring a black swan Trump is going to win re-election. This is more about the future of the party for Democrats. If you think Bloomberg would hurt the party Bernie would destroy it. "

True enough, but either will implode the Democratic Party and cause one faction or the other to split. Numerically, the party probably is or is on the cusp of being dominated who hold Bernie's viewpoint. If the Democrats do not deny Sanders the nomination, it will be because they want the divorce to happen sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 02, 2020 02:23 PM (puu6v)

375 "We see in its naked, pus-filled and evil glory the deep state, the corruption of our central government and the embarrassing lack of gravitas and wisdom among those who preen and crow and brag about how special and wonderful and elite they are."

True. But don't forget, that is all given to us by the people of the US at every election.
Sorry, Mr. Franklin, but it looks like we cannot keep it. Vox populi, vox dei.

Posted by: timactual at February 02, 2020 02:32 PM (pPXFf)

376 >>>The Sundance Theory of Biden 's campaign is that it was ordered from the Lawfare Group because in order to impeach Trump for asking for dirt on a Biden's campaign there had to be a Biden campaign.


Now where else are the DemCong up to their armpits in graft and corruption (with some Repub fig leafs) to blame Trump for?

Libya and China sound like a good places to dredge.

Deep State has to have scores of operatives in place still so could be anywhere. And if all it takes is one phone call and a fake transcript... BUT it has already have corrupt ties.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 02, 2020 02:33 PM (1g7ch)

377 372 Reminds me of an old Richard Pryor bit. Man and woman arguing:

"I'm leaving. I'm going to go find me some new pussy."

"If you had two more inches, you'd find some new pussy here."

Or another one. Two men pissing off a bridge:

"Water sure is cold."

"Yeah, deep too."

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2020 02:46 PM (jK8Z7)

378 Has anyone had the opinion that being held liable for prosecution for lying to the FBI or any LE essentially creates a situation where the person being questioned is forced to incriminate himself?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 02, 2020 02:47 PM (6rS3m)

379 370 Lutheran Church Missouri Synod or Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. NOT Evangelical Lutheran Church of America.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2020 02:48 PM (jK8Z7)

380 Just watched the Cruz Podcast. Worth every minute. Thanks for the link, I subscribed. It dawned on me that by listening to the real thoughts and conversations I no longer have to rely on "reported" stories. Getting it straight from the Horses Mouth, so to speak, takes all of the spin out and provides clarity. A way around the corrupt media.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 02, 2020 02:52 PM (KSBDE)

381 282
255 Bloomberg is acceptable to the establishment if not

exciting. He's self-funding and has already built a large national
organization. If Bernie starts building a head of steam I can easily see
the party trying to rig it for Bloomberg. It will drive the Bernie Bros
crazy but it would be a conventional lose and not a socialist takeover
of the party.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2020 01:36 PM (ZLI7S)

===================

Jack, it's a matter of who Big Money thinks will win in 2020. The
MSM couldn't push "impeachment" through. That's the final ... straw ... I
think. Bloomberg wouldn't even take VA. If the Dems go for Bloomberg,
they lose 30% of the Dem Party. I see a long, long line of Major Machers
heading to Trump Tower to pledge their loyalty, because Trump is the
Single-Combat Champion. Heck, a little financial squeeze on the MSM
might produce a Trump Wave.

Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2020 01:45 PM (Pqytn)



You both make good points - and right now, in my own estimation, I
give the edge to Burnie because I think angry psychology is going to
beat out money on the left. In other words, I think it's going to be
1972 all over again.



I think the far left voters, which now are OVER half of the Dem
primary electorate, are going to be furious that their leadership lied
to them about being able to get rid of Trump. Rational people would
reflect on what they'd done wrong, but we're not dealing with rational
people, are we? They are gonna be like Thelma and Louise when they see
the canyon coming up - they are gonna push that pedal to the metal, and
launch.



Sure, Hillary and the NYC big wigs have all the money. All the
money, and none of the votes. And if they really do try to knock
Burnie out in a heavy handed way, Milwaukee is gonna BURN for BURNIE!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2020 01:54 PM (V2Yro)

It would be funny if the party that wants to see Israel burn rigs the system like commie thugs and nominates a Jew who wants to see Israel burn and then browbeats the nation for not wanting to vote for Historic First Jew.
Dems. gotta love em.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 02, 2020 02:57 PM (9dzlp)

382 Jerry and I are eating for three. 

Posted by: Big Ethel at 
******
What does Jughead think about this?

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at February 02, 2020 04:14 PM (trUSM)

383 So will it be guaranteed that "Milwaukee will burn"? And that sanders psychos will "walk into that MSNBC studios, drag those motherf---ers out by their hair, and light them on fire in the streets." Not that I give less than a schidt about mslsd, and that my wife and I stand ready to provide the accelerant, but wish these punks would try that by we here in the South Plains of generally good dental health and a wide spread indifference to soccer. For quite some time now we stand happy hoppy happy to show them what a real riot looks and feels like.

Posted by: T. Featherstone at February 02, 2020 04:17 PM (+/4Mh)

384 John Bolton is the whistleblower.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2020 04:18 PM (qu1px)

385 Wait, if Bill Kristol was the whistleblower does that mean his political farts are going to be hidden away forever? It's definitely him then.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2020 04:22 PM (qu1px)

386 John Bolton is the whistleblower.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2020 04:18 PM (qu1px)

Possibly.
But he's so well-known and has a high standing, could he really be called a "wistleblower?"
Or just a disgruntled, seditious POS?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2020 04:24 PM (CqE5x)

387 Late to the party but I still had to say, very sad and 1000% true.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque. Deplorable. Bitter. Clinging. MAGAbilly. Trump 2020! Because FUCK YOU again at February 02, 2020 04:27 PM (KXHve)

388 I come nobody who was in on the call was the whistle blower?

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2020 06:05 PM (Y274z)

389 My representatives in Congress are Senators Feinstein and Harris--and Representative Adam Schiff. While I used to cut Feinstein some slack, after Kavanaugh I realize I've been screwed three ways.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 02, 2020 11:23 PM (NvbIF)

390 very interesting DOW situation...
watching, but not worrying-
need cash to scoop up bargains!
oh;
Great Morning to Ya'll!

Posted by: LaRro at February 03, 2020 06:52 AM (10GNe)

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