Paul Sperry: Eric Ciaramella Openly Schemed With Fellow Joe Biden Holdover to "Take the President Out," From the Very Moment They Were Briefed on Trump's "America First" Foreign Policy

Two NSC co-workers told RCI that they overheard Ciaramella and Misko - who was also working at the NSC as an analyst - making anti-Trump remarks to each other while attending a staff-wide NSC meeting called by then-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, where they sat together in the south auditorium of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, part of the White House complex.
The "all hands" meeting, held about two weeks into the new administration, was attended by hundreds of NSC employees.
"They were popping off about how they were going to remove Trump from office. No joke," said one ex-colleague, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
A military staffer detailed to the NSC, who was seated directly in front of Ciaramella and Misko during the meeting, confirmed hearing them talk about toppling Trump during their private conversation, which the source said lasted about one minute. The crowd was preparing to get up to leave the room at the time.
"After Flynn briefed [the staff] about what 'America first' foreign policy means, Ciaramella turned to Misko and commented, 'We need to take him out,' " the staffer recalled. "And Misko replied, 'Yeah, we need to do everything we can to take out the president.'"
Added the military detailee, who spoke on condition of anonymity: "By 'taking him out,' they meant removing him from office by any means necessary. They were triggered by Trump’s and Flynn’s vision for the world. This was the first 'all hands' [staff meeting] where they got to see Trump’s national security team, and they were huffing and puffing throughout the briefing any time Flynn said something they didn’t like about 'America First'."
He said he also overheard Ciaramella telling Misko, referring to Trump, "We can't let him enact this foreign policy.'"
Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.
"It was so shocking that they were so blatant and outspoken about their opinion," he recalled. "They weren't shouting it, but they didn’t seem to feel the need to hide it."
The co-workers didn’t think much more about the incident.
“We just thought they were wacky,” the first source said. “Little did we know.”
Neither Ciaramella nor Misko could be reached for comment.

Instapundit notes that Democrats have taken to calling all inconvenient facts "conspiracy theories."

On Tuesday, Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) told quite the whopper by claiming Republicans have been spreading a "weird conspiracy theory" that Democrats wanted to impeach Donald Trump since he was inaugurated.
"What I found astounding was they're still saying that we were out to get the president from day one, some sort of a weird conspiracy theory that I have to say, even [Supreme Court Justice Brett] Kavanaugh brought up," Hirono said on MSNBC.

The Democrats' use of the term "conspiracy theory" to describe all claims they don't like is more malicious than it seems.

The Democrats have schemed with social media monopolies to censor all "conspiracy theories" and deplatform all persons "spreading conspiracy theories."

So when a Democrat labels any political statement a "conspiracy theory," they are taking the first step towards censoring that statement and punishing anyone who dares express it.

Posted by: Ace at 11:55 AM

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1 I hate these guys!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 22, 2020 11:54 AM (Y4EXg)

2 That Tulsi sure has sharp elbows. It's tragic how she was shot 17 times in the back of the head while surfing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 22, 2020 11:55 AM (j3npP)

3 Ace before noon?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 11:55 AM (QbTK/)

4 The ape in the thread below looks quite fetching in his pajamas.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2020 11:57 AM (KEi+l)

5 So your saying fake but accurate?

Posted by: WisRich at January 22, 2020 11:58 AM (G0vdT)

6
I hope I'm the first to call him "Mishko," but I doubt it.

Also, Misko is a Ukrainian surname, because of course it is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 11:58 AM (uKj5K)

7 Jail the soi boi

Posted by: henry at January 22, 2020 11:58 AM (JMDly)

8 I never coveted the presidency. It was mine by divine right! hic

Posted by: Hillary in Chappaqua at January 22, 2020 11:59 AM (6VO15)

9 3 Ace before noon?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 11:55 AM (QbTK/)

A conspiracy is afoot!

Posted by: Someguy at January 22, 2020 11:59 AM (Zm+LZ)

10 Shocking I know,like finding out gambling is going on at Rick's Cafe...

Posted by: steevy at January 22, 2020 12:00 PM (KNsKs)

11 I read the expose earlier today. Riveting stuff: Watergate mostly worked because leftists had complete media control and no one saw through the lies. Now Trump is having the entire sordid scam exposed. The entire impeachment process couldn't survive Ciamarella being exposed, which is of course why the media is treating him as James Bond, whose true identity Must Not be Exposed.

For the Republicans to betray their nation as all this comes out, they would have to consciously betray the Republic. We aren't there, at least not to 67% of the Senate.

Posted by: trev006 at January 22, 2020 12:00 PM (JZ7Oh)

12 the conspiracy theory is that Hirono is a member of the human race.

Posted by: henry at January 22, 2020 12:00 PM (JMDly)

13 I'd take special joy watching in person both of these soi boys shit and piss themselves right as the hang-mans noose gets tightened on their scrawny little soi boy necks...

Really tired of this BS at this point.

We're really due for a serious stretch of comeuppance for a bunch of these smug pricks.

Posted by: H Badger at January 22, 2020 12:01 PM (n/0Nw)

14 Corgis yelped for

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 12:01 PM (QbTK/)

15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

16 Maybe we should sue Hillary.

Posted by: Amalgamted Union of Macedonian Content Farmers at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (6II4w)

17 This sounds perfectly innocent and constitutional.

*tries to reference Constitution where bureaucrats dictate policy instead of the president, but finds only air*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (q80AH)

18 Enemy action at worst, fireable disloyalty at best.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (l4C/z)

19 Maizie Whoreono opened her bloodhole again?

Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (sm6Pk)

20 Where is Zero Arrests, Zero Indictments guy?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (Jk+3L)

21 Heads on pikes ... or it didn't happen.

Posted by: ShainS, Club Gulag > Club Gitmo at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (r2SS9)

22 On Tuesday, Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) told quite the whopper by
claiming Republicans have been spreading a "weird conspiracy theory"
that Democrats wanted to impeach Donald Trump since he was inaugurated.
I think we have found the chink in their armor.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (bd5wx)

23 >>"After Flynn briefed [the staff] about what 'America first' foreign policy means, Ciaramella turned to Misko and commented, 'We need to take him out,' " the staffer recalled. "And Misko replied, 'Yeah, we need to do everything we can to take out the president.'"

Up against the wall with these fuckers.

Time to start emptying these departments, completely. Federal Sinecures should be illegal.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (psgO+)

24 15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

My guess is he needed warm bodies to fill slots in existing jobs. Trump doesn't have a political machine like the Bushes have, so his hiring has been narrowly focused and often less-than-ideal

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (l4C/z)

25 15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

Preibus told him nothing to worry about. Patriots all.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (QbTK/)

26 Ask these people if French people putting French priorities first was wrong and they would say no. Ask them the difference between us and them, and they would stumble around their answer. They poorly understand themselves. They assume the other side is worse.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (KEi+l)

27 I hope I'm the first to call him "Mishko," but I doubt it.

Also, Misko is a Ukrainian surname, because of course it is.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 11:58 AM (uKj5K)

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Aaaaand... upon a quick Googling, I find he's not just an ethnic Ukie (which I could guess from the surname), but an Atlantic Council man, to boot.

LOL.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (uKj5K)

28 I like how the FNM calls the fact Burisma was paying off the bidens "debunked"

Posted by: 18-1 at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (wmL7h)

29 15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

Aren't they all Union-protected?

Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (sm6Pk)

30 Id guess that Natural person is a badly phrased attempt at 'Natural Born Citizen', because it is tied to where she lives.

Posted by: Don Q at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (NgKpN)

31 Our Dem partners are very impressive.

We need to send a team over to study their operation and process.

Posted by: North Korean State Media at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (NSFCQ)

32 Saw this earlier and still can't bl their brazenness. I'm all for witnesses now, just to hear this guy try and cya.

Posted by: EveR at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (R0z7P)

33 He said he also overheard Ciaramella telling Misko, referring to Trump, "We can't let him enact this foreign policy.'"

Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.

While I dislike this kind of "sources say" thing, I am perplexed by this statement. The article excerpt doesn't say what his superiors said about it - just what his peers said about it.

That notwithstanding, if this is true, wouldn't it make this anonymous "detailee" a ... whistle-blower? If he had this, why *didn't* he use "whistle-blower" protections when his superiors (assumedly) did nothing.

I have no trouble believing that this occurred, despite the "sources say" stuff - but why not run it all the way up? It isn't the committee's right to determine foreign policy. If they don't like it, they can quit but they can't "take out" the President because they disagree with him. That's bald-faced conspiracy against the President, isn't it? Isn't that worthy of a "whistle-blower" filing?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (I2dne)

34 24 15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

My guess is he needed warm bodies to fill slots in existing jobs. Trump doesn't have a political machine like the Bushes have, so his hiring has been narrowly focused and often less-than-ideal
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (l4C/z)

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You can't really do that, fire every political appointee at once. There are simply too many, even for political machines like Bush.

You'd end up devolving the entire running of the federal bureaucracy to unappointed bureaucrats, and I don't think that would be any better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (q80AH)

35 29 15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

Aren't they all Union-protected?
Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (sm6Pk)

Most of the bureaucracy yes, political appointees no.

Posted by: Someguy at January 22, 2020 12:06 PM (Zm+LZ)

36 The ape in the thread below looks quite fetching in his pajamas.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2020 11:57 AM (KEi+l)

*******

For a minute there I read that as Felching

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 22, 2020 12:07 PM (flINI)

37 Where is Zero Arrests, Zero Indictments guy?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:03 P

It's raids!

Zero raids!

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at January 22, 2020 12:07 PM (NSFCQ)

38
For Ace, the latest from the stunning and brave Demi Rose:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7915953

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at January 22, 2020 12:07 PM (rCwaK)

39 That might be a fake clause in the lawsuit, but it isn't a bad idea.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 22, 2020 12:07 PM (RGYkR)

40 9 3 Ace before noon?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 11:55 AM (QbTK/)

A conspiracy is afoot!
Posted by: Someguy at January 22, 2020 11:59 AM (Zm+LZ)

How do we KNOW its really Ace?

/looks around suspiciously.

Posted by: Don Q at January 22, 2020 12:07 PM (NgKpN)

41 On Tuesday, Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) told quite the whopper by claiming Republicans have been spreading a "weird conspiracy theory" that Democrats wanted to impeach Donald Trump since he was inaugurated.

I think we have found the chink in their armor.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:07 PM (Jk+3L)

42 My guess is he needed warm bodies to fill slots in existing jobs. Trump doesn't have a political machine like the Bushes have, so his hiring has been narrowly focused and often less-than-ideal
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (l4C/z)
++++++++++
I think that Trump was also unprepared for Washington when it comes to personnel. He comes from industry, where your subordinates, even those with serious quantities of power, do what they're told and move in the mandated direction. Or they quit. They don't stick around to execute hostile internal toppling of the boss. If they do try this (it does happen, of course), it usually doesn't work and they get shit-canned.

I really don't think Trump - with his industrial background instead of political - was prepared for just how dishonest and awful these people are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (I2dne)

43 >>I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.

It's not just Obama holdovers.

These are professional leeches. Pretty much ALL Federal Employees are a liability.

We used to afford them protections because they were those 'special' type of people who couldn't otherwise find gainful employment.

That is no longer the case.

Now they are agents of the Deep State.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (psgO+)

44 Some basic confusion here.

Schedule C, or "political" appointees, make up a small part of the NSC - been a long time since I've perused the "plum book" that lists all the positions, not sure NSC has any political appointees below the top level. It's mostly detailees from various agencies.

Trump or any president cannot "fire" any significant % of the federal workforce simply because they want to.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (El6T/)

45 Because they are Democrats history began this morning. So it is always a conspiracy theory to hold them accountable for anything The Resistance did or said before last week.

Unless they need it. Then it is imperative.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (PE3sF)

46 22 I think we have found the chink in their armor.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 22, 2020 12:03 PM (bd5wx)

I see what you've done there.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (vkS2Z)

47 In case you're unsure, that's fake.
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You had me going there for a second.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (VYwSh)

48 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (arJlL)

49 42 I think that Trump was also unprepared for Washington when it comes to personnel. He comes from industry, where your subordinates, even those with serious quantities of power, do what they're told and move in the mandated direction. Or they quit. They don't stick around to execute hostile internal toppling of the boss. If they do try this (it does happen, of course), it usually doesn't work and they get shit-canned.

I really don't think Trump - with his industrial background instead of political - was prepared for just how dishonest and awful these people are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (I2dne)

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Like Grant being used to the military chain of command.

When senators would tell him one thing and do another, and Grant couldn't do anything to punish the senators like fire them, he went up against a situation he had no experience with.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:09 PM (q80AH)

50 Fake whistleblower and Schitt foreign policy aide were conspiring on day one?

Well, I am shocked. Shocked, I say. Surprised too. Stunned even.

Who would have ever thought witnesses would come forward and a journalist would actually publish their testimony?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:09 PM (LISuA)

51 You'd end up devolving the entire running of the
federal bureaucracy to unappointed bureaucrats, and I don't think that
would be any better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (q80AH)

I would give it a try.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 22, 2020 12:09 PM (ufFY8)

52 >>You'd end up devolving the entire running of the
federal bureaucracy to unappointed bureaucrats

Tell me how they'd do worse.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (psgO+)

53 Executions would help. But proscription really is a great tool.

Posted by: Sulla at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (LISuA)

54 I have no trouble believing that this occurred, despite the "sources say" stuff - but why not run it all the way up? It isn't the committee's right to determine foreign policy.

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I suspect it had something to do with this:

"It was so shocking that they were so blatant and outspoken about their opinion," he recalled. "They weren't shouting it, but they didn't seem to feel the need to hide it."

The co-workers didn't think much more about the incident...

...We just thought they were wacky, the first source said. Little did we know."

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I'm betting the (decent) guy who heard it felt the need to report it, but figured it was idle bluster, and not being an indecent little cocksucker, consider it inconceivable that they'd actually act on their bigmouth swagger-talk.

This is a key advantage of the Left - they'll go places that normies wouldn't consider going.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (uKj5K)

55 Enemy action at worst, fireable disloyalty at best.

You are far to kind to these, our enemies.

Their words and actions are criminal and treasonous. A serious country would have already arrested and imprisoned these traitorous assholes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (HaL55)

56 I remember our "conservative" media like NR telling us even a year in that Trump's executive branch was badly understaffed.

Posted by: steevy at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (KNsKs)

57 Preibus told him nothing to worry about. Patriots all.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 12:04 PM (QbTK/)

Close. Remember, the State Dept, the Vianovich's (Sacked Ukraine Amb) etc., are all "professional" employees of the gov't and can put their personal feelings aside to do what's right for the U.S.

That is the bigger issue - is that these people actually believe we believe that B.S. Everyone has biases to their own beliefs. It's those who act upon it but then claim they are just "professionals."

In the end, America First would lead to hurt feelings. But more importantly, these ambassador / foreign relation types would lose juice and/or make their counterparts aware that they did not possess the "pull" they had been telling their counterparts they had.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (zVXtJ)

58 I like how the FNM calls the fact Burisma was paying off the bidens "debunked"
Posted by: 18-1

You know what'll solve that?

ARRESTS.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (Jk+3L)

59 52 >>You'd end up devolving the entire running of the
federal bureaucracy to unappointed bureaucrats

Tell me how they'd do worse.
Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (psgO+)

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They don't even have the fiction of being fireable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (q80AH)

60 You can't really do that, fire every political appointee at once. There are simply too many, even for political machines like Bush.

You'd end up devolving the entire running of the federal bureaucracy to unappointed bureaucrats, and I don't think that would be any better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM (q80AH)

The real problem is they stripped Trump of all his loyal support early.

Flynn was taken out. Manafort. Guy who tore the arm off of the reporter was gone.

And the lawfare had already started against Stone and others.

Posted by: Don Q at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (NgKpN)

61 There are still a lot of Obama holdovers in the DOJ and the FBI. He does need to fire everyone of them. And this carmalla guy is supposed to be the Democrat secret witness whistle blower and he is a known liar and asshole.

Posted by: Vic at January 22, 2020 12:11 PM (mpXpK)

62 There is no deep state. There is no deep state. There is no deep state.

Posted by: MSNPCNN at January 22, 2020 12:11 PM (1CjJc)

63 Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.

Then what happened?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 22, 2020 12:11 PM (HaL55)

64 Combine this story with Mollie overhearing Nadz on the Acela right after the election talking on the phone and planning impeachment, and the entire story of How We Got Here is there.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (LISuA)

65 Also, just for fun, Warren says if she is elected, she'll start a DoJ task force to investigate and prosecute Trump, his family, and his administration.

I think this means that Warren is sinking fast.

Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (9VeU0)

66 Look up "bag of hammers" in the dictionary.

Posted by: Mazie Hirohito at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (EgshT)

67 Trump or any president cannot "fire" any significant % of the federal workforce simply because they want to.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (El6T/)
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Which needs to change. The spoils system has a lot of downsides, but I don't think it can be worse than the endless hordes of "professional" permanent bureaucrats. Repeal Pendleton and go back to the spoils system. At least then, incompetent criminals serve at the arbitrary sufferance of the president. I doubt the spoils system would lead to more cronyism, theft, corruption, dishonesty and criminality than the current system and it has the benefit of being more transient.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (I2dne)

68 62 There is no deep state. There is no deep state. There is no deep state.
Posted by: MSNPCNN at January 22, 2020 12:11 PM (1CjJc)

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You missed the memo.

We've gone from "There is no deep state" to "There is a deep state and it's spectacular."

Please update your style guides.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

69 >>Then what happened?

I jerked off to some Lesbian Rim Job Porn.

Posted by: NSC Staffer at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (psgO+)

70 64 Combine this story with Mollie overhearing Nadz on the Acela right after the election talking on the phone and planning impeachment, and the entire story of How We Got Here is there.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (LISuA)

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And Schumer saying on national television that the deep state had six ways from Sunday for getting Trump if he crossed them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

71 So this means Ciaramella is getting lateralled to HR, right?

Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (9VeU0)

72 60
Guy who tore the arm off of the reporter was gone.

surely you can admit that clubbing her with the severed end was a bit over the top.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (sGtp+)

73 >>I really don't think Trump - with his industrial
background instead of political - was prepared for just how dishonest
and awful these people are. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:08 PM (I2dne)

He failed to petition Zod to consult as his chief of staff. My recommendations would've been...decisive.

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (ZS9TG)

74 I just heard some cute chick on a FabFitFun commercial tell me that she can 'customize her box'.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (ufFY8)

75 Federal workers protected by civil service laws more than unions. Not sure unions really are meaningful on that issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (El6T/)

76 Id guess that Natural person is a badly phrased attempt at 'Natural Born Citizen', because it is tied to where she lives.
Posted by: Don Q at January 22, 2020 12:05 PM

It just means an actual human being, as opposed to a legally created "person", like a corporation or a trust.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (dkvcO)

77 You know what'll solve that?

ARRESTS.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (Jk+3L)

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See @53

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (LISuA)

78 55 Enemy action at worst, fireable disloyalty at best.

You are far to kind to these, our enemies.

Their words and actions are criminal and treasonous. A serious country would have already arrested and imprisoned these traitorous assholes.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (HaL55)

My soft nature and kindness are my flaws.
It's why I carry 9mms. They're gentler.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (l4C/z)

79 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (uKj5K)

Note, this was the same time period that the Joint Chiefs called Trump into the Pentagon, for an 'intervention' on foreign and Military Policy.

Slideshows and charts and lectures as they attempted to School the President.

Needless to say, it did not go well.

Posted by: Don Q at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (NgKpN)

80 They don't even have the fiction of being fireable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

If insubordination isn't a fireable offense, we've already lost.

And no, that's not hyperbole.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (Jk+3L)

81 The Trump administration interviews should have gone like this:

"Were you employed by the United States government during the Obama administration?"

If the answer is "yes", pack your shit and get the hell out.

Posted by: Chris W at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (TlL+m)

82 It takes at least a year to fire a government employee for a very clear cut basic reason, like incompetence or something similar.

Firing "just because" is just not possible. The laws and regs are there to prevent such a thing, to keep civil service jobs from becoming patronage jobs.

I think reform is necessary, don't get me wrong, but there is a proper line to walk I think.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (E6Fgq)

83 all democrats (commies) are known liars and assholes. this is a known, known.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (KP5rU)

84 So social media is going to wipe all records of demcong ranting about "Impeach Fotay-Fi" going back to before the election?

Yes, yes they will.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (1g7ch)

85 And Vic! Glad to see you, sir.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (l4C/z)

86 We've gone from "There is no deep state" to "There is a deep state and it's spectacular."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

Teri Hatcher? Is that you?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (zVXtJ)

87 It would probably be a good idea for Tulsi to get a "no way I'm considering suicide" statement out there. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (Ejm1K)

88 Were we not told that even mentioning Ciaramella's name in public was somehow against the law?

I would report this blog post to the FBI, but I assume the NSA hoovers up and forwards all mentions of Ciaramella's name directly to Chris Wray (cc to Adam Schiff), so I won't bother.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (hdzef)

89 60 The real problem is they stripped Trump of all his loyal support early.

Flynn was taken out. Manafort. Guy who tore the arm off of the reporter was gone.

And the lawfare had already started against Stone and others.
Posted by: Don Q at January 22, 2020 12:10 PM (NgKpN)

Also, Steve Bannon.

Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (sm6Pk)

90 It takes at least a year to fire a government employee for a very clear cut basic reason, like incompetence or something similar.

What about insubordination?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:15 PM (Jk+3L)

91 So where are those two commie rats now? Still employed by the government?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 22, 2020 12:15 PM (sox4v)

92 Now they are agents of the Deep State.

They have no fear of us normal Americans. This situation needs to change immediately.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 22, 2020 12:15 PM (HaL55)

93 We've gone from "There is no deep state" to "There is a deep state and it's spectacular."

Please update your style guides.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

We can say both at the same time, and our idiot viewers won't even question the disparity.

Posted by: MSNPCNN at January 22, 2020 12:15 PM (1CjJc)

94 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

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Exactly right. There's the plot. Write 'er up and sell it to the movie people. They won't believe it, but hey! It actually happened.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:16 PM (LISuA)

95 Also, just for fun, Warren says if she is elected, she'll start a DoJ task force to investigate and prosecute Trump, his family, and his administration.

I think this means that Warren is sinking fast.
Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (9VeU0)
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Just checked, and Warren is a lawyer. She knows better and should be called out on her shit.

In America - where we have presumption of innocence - we investigate *crimes* and find *people." Investigating people to find crimes is opposed to our entire legal philosophy and she needs to be called out on it loudly.

I know it makes no difference to her, but it might make a difference to someone watching.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:16 PM (I2dne)

96 If Tulsi is proclaiming she's all natural, I'm-a gonna want to see proof. In person or HD photos, ideally with good lighting.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:16 PM (l4C/z)

97 81 The Trump administration interviews should have gone like this:

"Were you employed by the United States government during the Obama administration?"

If the answer is "yes", pack your shit and get the hell out.
Posted by: Chris W at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM (TlL+m)

Just walk them out the door immediately. Their shit is either government property or stolen.

Posted by: Roy at January 22, 2020 12:16 PM (DDeWs)

98 88 Were we not told that even mentioning Ciaramella's name in public was somehow against the law?

I would report this blog post to the FBI, but I assume the NSA hoovers up and forwards all mentions of Ciaramella's name directly to Chris Wray (cc to Adam Schiff), so I won't bother.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at January 22, 2020 12:14 PM (hdzef)

On it.

Posted by: Bob at January 22, 2020 12:16 PM (NgKpN)

99 The thing about conspiracy theories is a lot of them end up being true. Examples include Operation Northwoods, Epstein not killing himself.

Posted by: Augustine at January 22, 2020 12:16 PM (BDZWU)

100 Not the least surprising. Libs I know (actually used to know) think we owe the world reparations for screwing it up from the paradise it would be without us.

Posted by: Ripley at January 22, 2020 12:17 PM (MxEKc)

101 Schiff ruled the roost at the House side of impeachment and wouldn't let anyone bring up Ciamerella's name.

Would one of Trump's attorneys be allowed to bring up his name during the Senate hearings?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 22, 2020 12:17 PM (CqE5x)

102 Warren says if she is elected, she'll start a DoJ task force to investigate and prosecute Trump, his family, and his administration.

Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (9VeU0)

Excellent. The left has been trying to hyper-Pinochet Trump since 2016, but threatening his family gives him a cast iron excuse to start grinding them into dust. Not even the most gullible boomer can ignore that kind of threat.

Posted by: trev006 at January 22, 2020 12:18 PM (JZ7Oh)

103 100 Not the least surprising. Libs I know (actually used to know) think we owe the world reparations for screwing it up from the paradise it would be without us.
Posted by: Ripley at January 22, 2020 12:17 PM (MxEKc)

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It's really the beavers' fault. Cutting down trees and building dams, slowing the natural progress of water with their "improvements".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:18 PM (q80AH)

104 100
Not the least surprising. Libs I know (actually used to know) think we
owe the world reparations for screwing it up from the paradise it would
be without us.

Posted by: Ripley at January 22, 2020 12:17 PM (MxEKc)

The world can eat a bag of dicks. How about doing some heavy lifting of your own, from time to time, you lazy fucks.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 22, 2020 12:18 PM (1CjJc)

105 We've gone from "There is no deep state" to "There is a deep state and it's spectacular."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

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For once in his miserable, adipose existence as The World's Roundest Flatworm, Bill Kristol was ahead of the curve:

"If it comes to it, I prefer the deep state to the Trump state."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 12:18 PM (uKj5K)

106 You have to congratulate the Marxist's long march through our institution including POTUS with Obama. They have managed to infiltrate every part of our society and I have no doubt that 'by any means necessary' includes assassination which scares me. I pray that the Secret Service doesn't include any deep state actors and I pray for the health and safety for the entire Trump family.

Posted by: Cheri at January 22, 2020 12:18 PM (oiNtH)

107 101 Schiff ruled the roost at the House side of impeachment and wouldn't let anyone bring up Ciamerella's name.

That must be why he's still anonymous and nobody will know his name. Schiffty bastard.

Posted by: Roy at January 22, 2020 12:18 PM (DDeWs)

108 Not the least surprising. Libs I know (actually used to know) think we owe the world reparations for screwing it up from the paradise it would be without us.
Posted by: Ripley at January 22, 2020 12:17 PM (MxEKc)
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The Left: We will exploit the peaceful and rich Pax Americana to pursue our dreams of communism and disempowerment of America.

Also the Left: Pax Americana doesn't exist! Reparations!

Soon to be the Left: How'd I end up in this Gulag?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:19 PM (I2dne)

109 Tulsi Gabbard, thinking and planning ahead. I like that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:19 PM (LISuA)

110 We've come to think that "Treason" in the US is something that happened to Benedict Arnold a long time ago, and even if we have our political differences it's all polite and at the end of day both sides meet up for squash and then retire for a couple of cold ones.

For me it all started falling apart with Poppy Bush. From him on, it's been self absorbed snots who pretend to be humble. Trump is also self absorbed, the main difference is he doesn't pretend he's humble.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 22, 2020 12:19 PM (VYwSh)

111 See, these are the consequences for not vigorously defending Alex Jones when he was de-platformed.

Now de-platforming is built into the code and EULA that nobody reads.

One of the most vile instance of de-platforming married to Orewellean language was PayPal deplatforming people like Jones and citing the reason as MOB or Manifest Observable Behavior.

Whereby you didn't even have to violate terms of service or EULAs but could be banned for observable behavior the company deems in violation of THEIR subjective standard of permissible behavior.

What's happening is dangerous, full stop, and needs to be smashed.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 22, 2020 12:19 PM (BU88g)

112 It's taken 3 years for Trump to finally begin to appreciate just how much corruption was inside the Executive Branch, including his own White House. It's going to take a 2nd term before he finally begins to get a handle on it. Priebus came up - have you noticed how he has now disappeared completely? What a total piece of shit he was.

AND I remember right at the beginning, Trump was betrayed by Chris Christie. Starting from the convention, Trump had tapped Christ Christie to start working on a transition team, to make a full list of appointments that could be done quickly. Christie was supposed to have the contacts to be able to do this. Well, a couple weeks after the election, Trump finally was informed that Christie had instead packed all of his choices with Christ Christie sycophants and cronies, so that he would have a huge amount of influence over Trump. So, Trump dumped Christie and threw Christi's appointment list into the trash - but that meant starting from scratch barely 6 weeks before inauguration.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (Kpl3J)

113 I have noticed the same thing - everything is a conspiracy theory, even things you have me as on camera saying before an audience of millions.

It is an outgrowth of "all this has already been investigated". I heard that from a Democrat the other day regarding Hunter Biden. "Who investigated it?"
"People"
"When?"
"A while ago"
"Where can I get a copy of said investigation?" "Um...er...they didn't write it down anywhere you can read it."

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (+DS2f)

114 Is it a reflection on me or the times that we are living in that I found the fake part of the lawsuit plausible?

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (B06Zw)

115 90
It takes at least a year to fire a government employee for a very clear
cut basic reason, like incompetence or something similar.

What about insubordination?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:15 PM (Jk+3L)

Forget that, these guys committed multiple felonies. They can be fired on the spot.

Posted by: Vic at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (mpXpK)

116 And Schumer saying on national television that the deep state had six ways from Sunday for getting Trump if he crossed them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (q80AH)

Someone should ask Schumer what he meant by that.
If a Republican senator had said the same thing about Obama, he'd have been hauled up in front of some committee to answer why he said that.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (CqE5x)

117 Tulsi Gabbard SUES Hillary Clinton For $50 Million!

Posted by: SMOD at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (3aI0K)

118 .
Random thought --

How many 'witnesses' does Schiff, et al have on tap to keep this show going?

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

119 Reading things like this make me want to drink my breakfast, but since I drank my dinner watching the Impeachment Follies, I'm all out of Valu-Rite. If I start a GoFundMe page to buy the pallets of liquor I'm going to need to get through the election (which Trump will win by a landslide - so I'll need more pallets of liquor to celebrate), I hope the Morons will contribute mightily.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (vkS2Z)

120 Treason...and conspiracy to commit treason.

Posted by: Diogenes in barrel at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (zkt/z)

121 I pray that the Secret Service doesn't include any deep state actors and I pray for the health and safety for the entire Trump family.

Me too, Cheri. I am heartened by the fact that millions of people of good will are praying about this daily.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (WI7YS)

122 Mr. Wiffle Snuff is right!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (l4C/z)

123 Not the least surprising. Libs I know (actually used to know) think we owe the world reparations for screwing it up from the paradise it would be without us.
Posted by: Ripley

Just stop fucking feeding and protecting the world and let them starve and burn.

Fuck them.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (Jk+3L)

124 In Davos they've finally discovered where humanity went wrong. It was the discovery of fire. We were all copacetic right up until then. The earth was never able to recover from the discovery of fire.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (LISuA)

125 No one with anything more than a passing familiarity with the DC bureaucracy believes that there's a functioning "deep state:" to do so would give undeserved credit to the hundreds of thousands of tenured mediocrities working generally at cross purposes or submitting to their immediate supervisor's fiefdom-interest in frustrating coordination.
It is not a sinister, coordinated star-chamber; it's more like a Pamplona-style fool-chase. Think of "Office Space," and try to envision an organization that is five percent Peters, 30 percent Lumberghs, and 65 percent red-stapler guys. We're only led to believe it's a broad-deep conspiracy because the only ones available for scowling are the leadership--the rest of the prole-mass is wiping mustard stains off their shirts.

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (ZS9TG)

126 "Also, just for fun, Warren says if she is elected, she'll start a DoJ task force to investigate and prosecute Trump, his family, and his administration."

Do they want Caesar to cross the Rubicon? Because this is how you get Caesar to cross the Rubicon.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (dqx3u)

127 Have you ever seen the media as incurious about a major figure in one of the biggest political stories of the decades as they are about this whistleblower?

Why, if I didn't know any better, i'd say that they are taking their marching orders directly from the government.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (1ISKN)

128 124 In Davos they've finally discovered where humanity went wrong. It was the discovery of fire. We were all copacetic right up until then. The earth was never able to recover from the discovery of fire.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (LISuA)

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Fucking Prometheus...

Wait...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (q80AH)

129 Not the least surprising. Libs I know (actually used to know) think we owe the world reparations for screwing it up from the paradise it would be without us.

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Odd how untold millions left everything they'd ever known behind in their respective "paradises" to come to America. And they're still doing it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (JoUsr)

130 For me it all started falling apart with Poppy Bush. From him on, it's been self absorbed snots who pretend to be humble. Trump is also self absorbed, the main difference is he doesn't pretend he's humble.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 22, 2020 12:19 PM (VYwSh)
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This is true, but only as far as it goes. Trump is a braggart. He loves being rich and powerful and boasts about it a lot.

He doesn't, however, strike me as an elitist. He doesn't come off as "I'm much better than you. Just look at me. If I weren't great, I wouldn't be here. If you were great, you'd be here, too. Since you're not, you're clearly sub-par and need me to tell you how to live."

You can be elite without being an elitist. And you can be an elitist without being elite - just look at NT right and the mainstream press.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (I2dne)

131 I thought direct witness was out, and only second or third hand witness was applicable?

Something about how the truth became more clear as the story travels.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (FUP3f)

132 Over! Over? Was it over when the white supremacists bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Mazie Hirohito at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (EgshT)

133 Fire is the cleanser

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (l4C/z)

134 Even the most ridiculous conspiracy theory, pizzagate, was actually found to have an element of truth. There was a pedophilia ring in Washington involving powerful men including the Clintons and friends. It was run by Jeffery Epstein. They got the pizza parlor shit wrong, but the rest of it was pretty much correct...there were a bunch of powerful pedos running around.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (+DS2f)

135 95 Also, just for fun, Warren says if she is elected, she'll start a DoJ task force to investigate and prosecute Trump, his family, and his administration.

I think this means that Warren is sinking fast.
Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (9VeU0)

Warren's attacks on Bernie have backfired. Hard core libs are jumping off Warren's sinking ship, and getting on board with Bernie.

Looks like it's already down to a Burney-Biden race.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (Kpl3J)

136 Trump Reacts to Hillary Clinton's Criticism of Bernie: "She's the One That People Don't Like"

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Two of a kind. In fact, we've pretty much got a full House.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 22, 2020 12:23 PM (+y/Ru)

137 Forget it Jake. It's the Civil Service.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:23 PM (LISuA)

138 135 Warren's attacks on Bernie have backfired. Hard core libs are jumping off Warren's sinking ship, and getting on board with Bernie.

Looks like it's already down to a Burney-Biden race.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (Kpl3J)

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It certainly clarified my voting choice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:23 PM (q80AH)

139 Off topic, but I got my Dan Abnett short story collection yesterday. Damn big hardcover, 30 short stories in the Warhammer 40k Universe.

It's going to the top of the 'To read' list, right after I finish the Maltese Falcon.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:23 PM (l4C/z)

140 They should take Ciaramella and send his ass out to northern Syria. Let him do his analyzing from there, fucking fag.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at January 22, 2020 12:23 PM (xx41w)

141 Rush on this topic now. We're show prep

Posted by: Josephistan at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (aJWJN)

142 >>117
Tulsi Gabbard SUES Hillary Clinton For $50 Million! Posted by: SMOD at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (3aI0K)

"Such a shame that a promising young politician was knocked off her board and eaten by a mechanica....umm, by a real live shark."

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (ZS9TG)

143 128 124 In Davos they've finally discovered where humanity went wrong. It was the discovery of fire. We were all copacetic right up until then. The earth was never able to recover from the discovery of fire.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (LISuA)
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Fucking Prometheus...

Wait...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (q80AH)

Finally, you get it right about that movie!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (Kpl3J)

144
Funny how "conspiracy theory" doesn't include the dozens of Democrat Party Congresscritters who were talking about impeachment TO THE PRESS even before the inauguration.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (kw0bd)

145 Do they want Caesar to cross the Rubicon? Because this is how you get Caesar to cross the Rubicon.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (dqx3u)

Exactly. Though the Roman Senate at least had some competent patricians. The modern Senate doesn't even have that on the Dem side.

Posted by: trev006 at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (JZ7Oh)

146 Think of "Office Space," and try to envision an organization that is five percent Peters, 30 percent Lumberghs, and 65 percent red-stapler guys. We're only led to believe it's a broad-deep conspiracy because the only ones available for scowling are the leadership--the rest of the prole-mass is wiping mustard stains off their shirts.
Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (ZS9TG)
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There doesn't need to be a grand conspiracy. Just like the hard-left legacy press. There's no cabal of cigar-smoking conspirators sitting in a paneled room determining the fate of the world.

But everyone there is like-minded. They all assume it is their right to do what they want for the greater good. Some parts of the mess (like Spygate) are a conspiracy, but the overall effect of the "deep state" is not. It is just a lot of people who all move in generally the same direction and believe it is their right to do anything they want against (in this case) the bad orange man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (I2dne)

147 And there's a woman who posts on the open thread of Conservative TreeHouse (I think it's on the open thread instead of the Daily Thread) who posts every possible prayer one could think of-and ones I haven't though of- for the President and his Cabinet and many concerns for our country-ICE, the wall, talks in Davos, etc. That woman is quite the prayer warrior.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (WI7YS)

148 Just stop fucking feeding and protecting the world and let them starve and burn.

Fuck them.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (Jk+3L)

Correct. It's where we went wrong.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020 12:25 PM (vkS2Z)

149 The African-American woman over Human Resources at the NSC is a friend of Jarrett and Michele. She's SES, so untouchable. Supposedly, they tried to get rid of Vindman earlier and she stopped it. Imagine she's doing all she can to ensure the Resistance stays in place.

Posted by: EveR at January 22, 2020 12:25 PM (R0z7P)

150 This is true, but only as far as it goes. Trump is a braggart. He loves being rich and powerful and boasts about it a lot.

He doesn't, however, strike me as an elitist. He doesn't come off as "I'm much better than you. Just look at me. If I weren't great, I wouldn't be here. If you were great, you'd be here, too. Since you're not, you're clearly sub-par and need me to tell you how to live."

You can be elite without being an elitist. And you can be an elitist without being elite - just look at NT right and the mainstream press.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (I2dne)
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I like to think of Trump as Al Czervik from Caddyshack.

Posted by: Augustine at January 22, 2020 12:25 PM (BDZWU)

151 What about insubordination?

We'll put you on paid leave while we "investigate."

A process that can drag out pretty long.

That said, some workarounds may exist, like relocating the job to Juneau or something. But outright firing is not an easy thing, even when the case is clear.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at January 22, 2020 12:25 PM (C+We0)

152 Federal workers protected by civil service laws more than unions. Not sure unions really are meaningful on that issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM

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Federal labor unions have zero power. The only thing that can "bargain" for is working conditions. They can't strike (thanks Reagan), negotiate for pay or any other benefits. Everyone thinks they are a big boogey man, but they are literally powerless. If you get a job in a bargaining unit they can't make you pay union dues you have to opt in and the vast majority of people never pay a cent in union dues.

They literally have no money to do anything with and Trump just killed their golden goose by making them use their vacation time to conduct union business and he took away all of the freebies like free office spaces and computers and the like. Now if they want to keep them, they have to pay their Agency rent for those spaces and equipment. Most of them that my wife deals with just gave back all of their stuff instead of paying for it.

My wife has dealt with Federal unions for nearly 20 years now. All they are is an annoyance for management if they let them get their goat.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 22, 2020 12:25 PM (JUOKG)

153
I see that Joe Biden's brother got $1.5 Billion (holds pinky to mouth) in govt contracts even though he had no experience while Joe was VP.

So that's nice to see family taking care of each other.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 22, 2020 12:26 PM (r+sAi)

154 In any other age, what Crimmerria did would be treason--a military officer plotting to directly undermine his superior officer.
Even if he did nothing--even saying it is a crime.

Is there any doubt now why the Democrats are throwing that word out with reckless abandon?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 22, 2020 12:26 PM (aO8Gd)

155 See, these are the consequences for not vigorously defending Alex Jones when he was de-platformed.

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Author Kobek: 'Drudge the only authentic genius of the 21st century'...

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Uhhhhh. Right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 22, 2020 12:26 PM (+y/Ru)

156 @125 Zod nails the larger truth, regardless of the plotter's cabal of Deep Staters. Which is why Proscription would be so helpful. There's no policy better than executions and seizure of all family property to get the bureaucracy to move more rapidly and in a unified fashion.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:27 PM (LISuA)

157 Just overheard two older black women talking about impeachment trial.

Those awful republicans won't let them call any witnesses and are trying to cut them off! Oh, the horror!

I finally couldn't listen to it anymore and said, "because that all should have been done in the House. That's not how this works....House impeaches or indicts and Senate tries."

They looked at me like I was retarded. Feeling was mutual however.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at January 22, 2020 12:27 PM (BJhWl)

158 But everyone there is like-minded. They all assume
it is their right to do what they want for the greater good. Some parts
of the mess (like Spygate) are a conspiracy, but the overall effect of
the "deep state" is not. It is just a lot of people who all move in
generally the same direction and believe it is their right to do
anything they want against (in this case) the bad orange man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Well said. My only add would be that they believe they have the right to be free of fear of any budget cuts. Not free from budget cuts. free from even thinking it could hypothetically happen.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 22, 2020 12:27 PM (FUP3f)

159 How many 'witnesses' does Schiff, et al have on tap to keep this show going?
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

How many leftard women would have been willing to swear that Brett Kavanaugh mind-raped them in their dreams?

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (Kpl3J)

160 >>and believe it is their right to do anything they want against (in this case) the bad orange man. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (I2dne)

I think the question is one of pervasiveness--others seem to think it's much more present in the IC (specifically, since that seems to be the locus of discussion). I remain somewhat unconvinced.

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (ZS9TG)

161 Off topic, but I got my Dan Abnett short story collection yesterday. Damn big hardcover, 30 short stories in the Warhammer 40k Universe.

It's going to the top of the 'To read' list, right after I finish the Maltese Falcon.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020

*
*

"When a man's partner is killed, he's supposed to do something about it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (Ejm1K)

162 I posted this before but I think it's funny.

Zimbabwe's Finance Minister Sees Inflation Stabilizing - at 500%

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Obamunism in action!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)

163 We need to shrink the federal workforce.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (JRaU+)

164 156 @125 Zod nails the larger truth, regardless of the plotter's cabal of Deep Staters. Which is why Proscription would be so helpful. There's no policy better than executions and seizure of all family property to get the bureaucracy to move more rapidly and in a unified fashion.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:27 PM (LISuA)

Corpse Looting is the Left's game.

Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (sm6Pk)

165 163 We need to shrink the federal workforce.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (JRaU+)

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Send it into the pool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (q80AH)

166 Think of "Office Space," and try to envision an organization that is
five percent Peters, 30 percent Lumberghs, and 65 percent red-stapler
guys. We're only led to believe it's a broad-deep conspiracy because the
only ones available for scowling are the leadership--the rest of the
prole-mass is wiping mustard stains off their shirts.

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (ZS9TG)

My name is Milton Waddams, Mr. Zod, if that is your real name. Now, give me my piece of cake. It's all gone.

Posted by: Milton Waddams at January 22, 2020 12:29 PM (IttZ7)

167 I think the question is one of pervasiveness--others seem to think it's much more present in the IC (specifically, since that seems to be the locus of discussion). I remain somewhat unconvinced.
Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM (ZS9TG)
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I think it's universally pervasive and the efficacy is related to the size and power of the organization. The IC is medium-sized, powerful and used to secrecy. I suspect it is more effective in the IC, but very likely no more pervasive than it is at the highway department (which is large, weak and public).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 22, 2020 12:29 PM (I2dne)

168 Remember, the State Dept, the Vianovich's (Sacked Ukraine Amb) etc.,
are all "professional" employees of the gov't and can put their
personal feelings aside to do what's right for the U.S.

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"You are correct, sir! Similar to how all judges are apolitical." -- Benedict Roberts, Chief of Justice

Posted by: ShainS, Club Gulag > Club Gitmo at January 22, 2020 12:30 PM (r2SS9)

169 We need to shrink the federal workforce.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 22, 2020 12:28 PM

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Trump is doing what he can by himself There are hiring freezes in place at most Federal Agencies except the VA, DHS, HHS and a few others.

He can't do much more than that without Congress getting in on the act.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (JUOKG)

170 And nothing will happen

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (6XlcD)

171 They got the pizza parlor shit wrong, but the rest of it was pretty much correct...there were a bunch of powerful pedos running around.

Some elements of it, but I suspect there was something very strange going on in that place. Enough so that any cop would be checking it out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (KZzsI)

172 120
Treason...and conspiracy to commit treason.

Posted by: Diogenes in barrel at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (zkt/z)

Good thing Trump kept the Salami strike close to his vest. You are witnessing the awesome power of a fully-armed and operational OrangeManBad.
2020 is going to be awesome.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (1CjJc)

173 This will happen again unless Ciaramella is put in a cell or taken out back and put against a wall.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (xx41w)

174 Even the most ridiculous conspiracy theory, pizzagate, was actually
found to have an element of truth. There was a pedophilia ring in
Washington involving powerful men including the Clintons and friends.
It was run by Jeffery Epstein. They got the pizza parlor shit wrong,
but the rest of it was pretty much correct...there were a bunch of
powerful pedos running around.

"Were..?" I'm pretty certain they're still around and still perving, just more quiet-like.

And what did they get wrong about the pizza parlor? And what about that little pizza slice charm that Ol' Slow Joe gave somebody else not too long ago. That sure looked a lot like a "fuck you" to the rest of us, saying essentially that "We're protected by the media and you can't touch us."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (HaL55)

175 Instapundit notes that Democrats have taken to calling all inconvenient facts "conspiracy theories."

They originally wanted to go with 'fake news', remember? Then that got turned around on them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (oVJmc)

176 169. I agree. It will take more time, not blaming Trump. Until the workforce is drastically reduced in size, this sort of garbage will continue.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (JRaU+)

177 Trump IS an elitist. The difference between him and them is he actually earned his elite status. He earned it the hard way. He hustled.

He doesn't hate us, he hates all the poseurs, braggarts, and phonies that try and pretend to be better than him. And they hate him for calling them out. Imagine spending your whole life pretending to be an expert...and having trump dismiss you out of hand.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (+DS2f)

178 "Thick as thieves"

Would that they had the honor that thieves have.

Posted by: RM at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (U3LtS)

179 Mark my words: the next shoe to drop is there's a direct link between Ciamarella and Vinderman

That is the smoking gun the Dems are trying to bull rush the public past.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (aO8Gd)

180 132 Over! Over? Was it over when the white supremacists bombed Pearl Harbor?
Posted by: Mazie Hirohito at January 22, 2020 12:22 PM (EgshT)

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Well the NAZIs were white supremacists. Hate to tell you, but a lot of people have no idea where that line comes from. A few years I saw a post using the movie line and a response was "Are you stupid? You think the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" No clue. Popular culture and Memes are obtained by osmosis. You don't have to always look for them, you just become aware of them over time.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (VYwSh)

181 And nothing will happen

Posted by: It's me donna at January 2

You win the internet today.

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (NSFCQ)

182 171 They got the pizza parlor shit wrong, but the rest of it was pretty much correct...there were a bunch of powerful pedos running around.

Some elements of it, but I suspect there was something very strange going on in that place. Enough so that any cop would be checking it out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (KZzsI)

Wasn't the only thing disproven was that it turned out the place didn't have a basement?

Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (sm6Pk)

183 Why does the dumbasses in the press keep calling this an impeachment trial?

The impeachment is over. This is a removal from office trial.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (1ISKN)

184 Hirono is obviously suffering from too much poi and Spam.

Posted by: wth at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (v0R5T)

185 Any gov't official who talks /or acts to remove a duly elected president should immediately be removed from gov't and be forever barred from gov't. This is is the stuff of totalitarians.

Posted by: Locke Common at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (0rJX+)

186 How much did Ciaramella get from the GoFundMe?

Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (9VeU0)

187 ZOD

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (KP5rU)

188 182 171 They got the pizza parlor shit wrong, but the rest of it was pretty much correct...there were a bunch of powerful pedos running around.

Some elements of it, but I suspect there was something very strange going on in that place. Enough so that any cop would be checking it out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:31 PM (KZzsI)

Wasn't the only thing disproven was that it turned out the place didn't have a basement?
Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM (sm6Pk)

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Why would a rich collection of pedos have a set location in the middle of a city from which to do "business"? Especially a place like a pizza parlor?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (q80AH)

189 I'm going to be made a Kentucky Colonel!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders 2020 at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (6VO15)

190 Funny how "conspiracy theory" doesn't include the dozens of Democrat Party Congresscritters who were talking about impeachment TO THE PRESS even before the inauguration.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 22, 2020 12:24 PM (kw0bd)

Forget it - already wiped from the search engines.
THAT is what the mean by removing 'conspiracy theories'

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (1g7ch)

191 It is not a sinister, coordinated star-chamber; it's
more like a Pamplona-style fool-chase. Think of "Office Space," and try
to envision an organization that is five percent Peters, 30 percent
Lumberghs, and 65 percent red-stapler guys. We're only led to believe
it's a broad-deep conspiracy because the only ones available for
scowling are the leadership--the rest of the prole-mass is wiping
mustard stains off their shirts.

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:21 PM (ZS9TG)

There need not be coordination between plotters for people to be working simultaneous toward the same political ends, and be rewarded handsomely for it, to use the term "deep state." We don't need to point to a smoking man, to agree that there is a "deep state."

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (1CjJc)

192 65 Also, just for fun, Warren says if she is elected, she'll start a DoJ task force to investigate and prosecute Trump, his family, and his administration.

I think this means that Warren is sinking fast.
Posted by: blaster at January 22, 2020 12:12 PM (9VeU0)
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It would next to impossible to get a fair trail if she did that. Trump was a more "They should", she's saying "I will".

Posted by: Groundhog at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (VYwSh)

193 Had extended family who worked for the State of California and for the County of San Mateo. They were both told to "quit working so fast" and that tasks should be "drawn out to make them last." Apparently they were expected to do as little as humanly possible, and then fill the rest of the working hours with internet shopping and blog reading and posting comments on websites...oh.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (vkS2Z)

194 185 Any gov't official who talks /or acts to remove a duly elected president should immediately be removed from gov't and be forever barred from gov't. This is is the stuff of totalitarians.

Yet from what I've heard Ciaramella is still "employed."

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (6XlcD)

195 lol. Tucker said Bernie's Apology Tape was a "hostage video".

Posted by: Marcus T at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (VpIIl)

196 188 Why would a rich collection of pedos have a set location in the middle of a city from which to do "business"? Especially a place like a pizza parlor?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (q80AH)

There's just something weird about the Pedodestas using "pizza" as coded language.

Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (sm6Pk)

197 Well the NAZIs were white supremacists.

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Nice day for a white supremacy!

Posted by: Billy Idol at January 22, 2020 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

198 Trump IS an elitist. The difference between him and
them is he actually earned his elite status. He earned it the hard
way. He hustled.

He doesn't hate us, he hates all the poseurs, braggarts, and phonies
that try and pretend to be better than him. And they hate him for
calling them out. Imagine spending your whole life pretending to be an
expert...and having trump dismiss you out of hand.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at January 22, 2020 12:32 PM

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Trump is a risk taker. He has been kicked in the nuts more than a few times in his business dealings but the difference is, he learned from those mistakes and never made the same one twice. That is what makes him scary to the left. He does not back down, ever. He will always fight back and they can't seem to remember that.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 22, 2020 12:35 PM (JUOKG)

199 They were both told to "quit working so fast" and that tasks should be "drawn out to make them last." Apparently they were expected to do as little as humanly possible, and then fill the rest of the working hours with internet shopping and blog reading and posting comments on websites...oh.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020

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Cue the inevitable "How can I get a job like that??"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:36 PM (Ejm1K)

200 Thanks Mr. Scott. I thought things were pretty much like that, but wasn't sure on details despite being in/around the beast for years.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 22, 2020 12:36 PM (El6T/)

201 196 188 Why would a rich collection of pedos have a set location in the middle of a city from which to do "business"? Especially a place like a pizza parlor?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (q80AH)

There's just something weird about the Pedodestas using "pizza" as coded language.
Posted by: Allie at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (sm6Pk)

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I fully expect them to have some sort of code, but the location was always dumb, to me.

I think of Eyes Wide Shut. They communicated by word of mouth and changed their locations all the time (as evidenced by the piano player's dialogue). I imagine that's how a real, elite sex club would work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:36 PM (q80AH)

202 And these two little soybois subsequently net with shiffhead and / or his staff and/or lawfare attorneys and others after the Mueller time bust (or before) we spoke to the state department inspector general The whistleblower rules to accommodate them.

And that there morons and moronettes is what we call a treasonous conspiracy

Posted by: oddnot at January 22, 2020 12:36 PM (zPl5q)

203 You really can't broadstroke the IC. Certain elements of the IC recruit from certain areas of academia. The CIA is particularly Ivy League centered in their recruitment, for example. There's a certain culture and shared set of assumptions and world view that comes along with that. DIA, NGA, NSA, etc have their own monocultures.

I will say it's all pretty heavy on college graduates with history, polisci, international affairs type degrees so not necessarily the college high-achievers, either.

Posted by: f2000 at January 22, 2020 12:37 PM (R9I5m)

204 We only have 12 years to stop gravity!

Posted by: AOC at January 22, 2020 12:37 PM (NSFCQ)

205
189 I'm going to be made a Kentucky Colonel!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders 2020 at January 22, 2020 12:33 PM (6VO15

Kentucky: where the corn is full of kernels and the colonel's are full of corn!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 22, 2020 12:37 PM (Vy7tf)

206 not necessarily the college high-achievers, either.

From what I've seen they are all pretty much "high."

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (6XlcD)

207
In a true Party-State system, the Triangle of Power and Hate has its vertices at the Party, the Organs (IC and their captive media), and the Army.

We haven't quite reached a true Party-State system yet. But we're close, and we will. The Army doesn't have a great deal of pull at this time. So it's just a line from the Party to the Organs.

This is why people perceive the IC as disproportionally powerful - it is.

Luckily for us, it's staffed by true dullards. No Dzerzhinskys, Berias, Himmlers or Heydrichs in sight. Just Comeys and Brennans and McCabes. Sad!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (uKj5K)

208 Any gov't official who talks /or acts to remove a
duly elected president should immediately be removed from gov't and be
forever barred from gov't. This is is the stuff of totalitarians.

Yet from what I've heard Ciaramella is still "employed."

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM

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While he is still drawing a paycheck, I suspect he sits at a desk all day with nothing to do except make copies, and I will bet he has a minder also.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (JUOKG)

209 We only have 12 years to stop gravity!
Posted by: AOC at January 22, 2020 12:37 PM (NSFCQ)

What do you mean, "we??"

Posted by: AOC's TITS at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (CqE5x)

210 Hello Dear, how is every little thing?

Posted by: ALH at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (uLuPn)

211 schiff loves his little boys of coler. he's a dangerous pile of mutant flesh. he bears watching.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (KP5rU)

212 We only have 12 years to stop gravity!
Posted by: AOC at January 22, 2020

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Sounds about right, AOC. Certain parts of you are gonna start sagging well before then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (Ejm1K)

213 Had extended family who worked for the State of California and for the County of San Mateo. They were both told to "quit working so fast" and that tasks should be "drawn out to make them last." Apparently they were expected to do as little as humanly possible, and then fill the rest of the working hours with internet shopping and blog reading and posting comments on websites...oh.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020 12:34 PM (vkS2Z)
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Idle hands are the devil's workshop.

Posted by: wth at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

214 118
.
Random thought --

How many 'witnesses' does Schiff, et al have on tap to keep this show going?

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 22, 2020 12:20 PM (MIKMs)
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As Rush has been saying this week, witnesses to what? There is no crime or impeachable offense asserted -- so how can I be witnesses?

I'm really disgusted that McConnell legitimized it by taking it up then the scumbag RINOs not voting to immediately dismiss it outright.

Posted by: ShainS, Club Gulag > Club Gitmo at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (r2SS9)

215 The CIA is particularly Ivy League centered in their recruitment, for example.

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Harvard David Hogg being recruited by the CIA? I shudder at the thought.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (JoUsr)

216 And I really think they thought it would be easy to take out Trump. He was a populist buffoon, after all, with no DC experience, and they had the entire media on their side along with every bureaucratic overlord and mandarin in Washington.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (H8QX8)

217 Whistleblowers at ten paces.

Posted by: JEM at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (8erNz)

218 211 schiff loves his little boys of coler. he's a dangerous pile of mutant flesh. he bears watching.

Bet your talking about the alleged photos of him and Ed Buck... I'd give anything for that to be true

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (6XlcD)

219 Had someone tell me they thought these CIA guys were all hard types. When I was done laughing so hard I puked, I told him not so. Only the field guys who are generally ex military. The analysts are mostly all weenies.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (xx41w)

220 199 They were both told to "quit working so fast" and that tasks should be "drawn out to make them last." Apparently they were expected to do as little as humanly possible, and then fill the rest of the working hours with internet shopping and blog reading and posting comments on websites...oh.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 22, 2020
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Cue the inevitable "How can I get a job like that??"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:36 PM (Ejm1K)

Close to home for you, I remember from time to time driving through a big highway construction project in Alexandria, Louisiana, that literally took 20 years from start to finish. And it was about a 7 mile stretch.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:40 PM (Kpl3J)

221 Why would a rich collection of pedos have a set location in the middle of a city from which to do "business"? Especially a place like a pizza parlor?

I think it was a place to meet up and get connections, order kids, etc. There were an odd amount of children just hanging around the place at all hours.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:40 PM (KZzsI)

222 Schiff should catch the DC bus. The front of it.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (xx41w)

223 15 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

I have wondered that, too.

I think, perhaps for self-implication. Feed false information to see who leaks what to whom.

Posted by: Flyover at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (Rbu5d)

224 215 The CIA is particularly Ivy League centered in their recruitment, for example.

As your next President I'd ensure that no one was ever hired from an Ivy, and that all Harvards recruited in the past decade were sent to sit trouserless on cakes of ice in the Arctic for the next four years.

Posted by: JEM at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (8erNz)

225 218: there are more photos than the ed buck pics. dude is a predator.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (KP5rU)

226 Any gov't official who talks /or acts to remove a duly elected president should immediately be removed from gov't and be forever barred from gov't. This is is the stuff of totalitarians.

Should be shot on sight with a bounty paid.

That is the textbook definition of treason.
Making war on the duly elected government.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (Jk+3L)

227 Schiff is a retarded American Beria, the mutant nightmare Joe McCarthy that McCarthy never actually was.

He basically said yesterday the fact Trump has lawyers and is defending himself is proof of his guilt.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (H8QX8)

228 hoo-boy. prepare for lefty head explosions.

Pompeo is visiting Ukraine next week.

Posted by: Hunter Wants To Go Too! at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (LISuA)

229 Harvard David Hogg being recruited by the CIA? I shudder at the thought.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 22, 2020 12:39 PM (JoUsr)

Give him a camel and send him to go do some "fact finding" in Yemen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (Kpl3J)

230 Bet your talking about the alleged photos of him and Ed Buck... I'd give anything for that to be true

Let just say I believe it about him until proven otherwise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

231 225 218: there are more photos than the ed buck pics. dude is a predator.

Have you seen any?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:42 PM (6XlcD)

232 228 hoo-boy. prepare for lefty head explosions.

Pompeo is visiting Ukraine next week.
Posted by: Hunter Wants To Go Too! at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (LISuA)

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No one will notice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:42 PM (q80AH)

233 Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.

The boomer death toll is going to be picking up steam

Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

234
*whack whack whack whack*

Posted by: Preston Brooks and His Gutta Percha Cane at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (1PyAH)

235
Pompeo is visiting Ukraine next week.
Posted by: Hunter Wants To Go Too! at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (LISuA)

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No one will notice.

If they can drag it into the impeachment farce they will

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (6XlcD)

236 233 Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.

The boomer death toll is going to be picking up steam

Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

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Soon, we'll live in a world without Pythons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (q80AH)

237 chiff is a retarded American Beria, the mutant nightmare Joe McCarthy that McCarthy never actually was.

He basically said yesterday the fact Trump has lawyers and is defending himself is proof of his guilt.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (H8QX

He is awful. He hasn't backed down or apologized or toned down his rhetoric.
He really is a bad one.

I hope he goes down HARD.

Posted by: AOC's TITS at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (CqE5x)

238 We only have 12 years to stop gravity!

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When I was born 29 years ago, gravity was only 6 lbs. 8 oz. but now it's . . . Well, considerably more than 6 lbs. 8 oz. If this continues, we'll all be Michael Moores in a few years!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (+y/Ru)

239
Close to home for you, I remember from time to time driving through a big highway construction project in Alexandria, Louisiana, that literally took 20 years from start to finish. And it was about a 7 mile stretch.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020

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If you mean I-49, it still isn't done. Last time I drove it, large sections are still not properly paved.

Not to mention the Hard Rock Hotel collapse. Three months later, and the ruin still sits there, undemolished, traffic being diverted around it. The latest kerfuffle is that a leg from the victim the experts said they couldn't recover has popped into view, and the so-called mayor says it's not possible to put the tarp back.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (Ejm1K)

240 227 Schiff is a retarded American Beria, the mutant nightmare Joe McCarthy that McCarthy never actually was.

He basically said yesterday the fact Trump has lawyers and is defending himself is proof of his guilt.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (H8QX

Sounds like typical dirty prosecutor talk.

"What'ya hiding? What'ya need a lawyer for?"

Fuck them all with a rusty hook

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (l4C/z)

241 Pompeo is visiting Ukraine next week.
Posted by: Hunter Wants To Go Too! at January 22, 2020 12:41 PM (LISuA)

Take your seats, intermission is over.

Shhh

Posted by: Kabuki Theatre at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (NSFCQ)

242 I find it great fun to talk about the alleged photos of Schiff, but until there's some evidence I don't fool myself into actually believing that. It'd be a fun thing to try and get those two elderly black women mentioned earlier in the thread to believe, though. And Millenials, it'd probably be easy to talk millenials into believing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (Kpl3J)

243 What has happened to Mary Cloggenstein? Is she on Bernie's staff? Too busy to post?

Posted by: BignJames at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (X/Pw5)

244 He is awful. He hasn't backed down or apologized or toned down his rhetoric.
He really is a bad one.

But, but the "media" said yesterday he was "masterful" in his take down of the Trump Lawyers

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (6XlcD)

245 The African-American woman over Human Resources at the NSC is a friend of Jarrett and Michele. She's SES, so untouchable. Supposedly, they tried to get rid of Vindman earlier and she stopped it. Imagine she's doing all she can to ensure the Resistance stays in place.
Posted by: EveR at January 22, 2020 12:25 PM (R0z7P)

Some years ago I had a friend who worked at a small Air Force Base, I will call it See More Johnson AFB (because that's not how it's name is spelled so nobody will get it), supposedly the chief of HR happened to attend a local church and after several years somebody not with that church noticed that everybody hired in the last several years just happened to go to that same church. Coincidentally, at a nearby Army installation, let's call it Fort Named After a CW General, a similar thing was going on. But Fort What's His Name, being much larger, makes it harder to hire every relative and friend you have - you will run out of friends long before you run out of jobs. Don't know if Fort Whatchamacallit has been figured out yet.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (1g7ch)

246 Harvard David Hogg being recruited by the CIA? I shudder at the thought.

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Wasn't Papa Hogg-ster an FBI agent at one time.... that would certainly fit, so I hope I remember this correctly

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (LISuA)

247 Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Max Power at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (Hucnr)

248 Soon, we'll live in a world without Pythons.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM

*checks gun safe*

Nope.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (ejd/p)

249 236 233 Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.

The boomer death toll is going to be picking up steam

Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

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Soon, we'll live in a world without Pythons.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (q80AH)

No way, brother!

Posted by: Hulk Hogan at January 22, 2020 12:45 PM (7HtZB)

250 New Monmouth poll finds only 41% feel Trump deserves re-election vs 57% who don't.

Monmouth has not been an awful poll for Trump.

The Pres is roadkill

Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (045k4)

251 233 Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.
........

Did he fly off a bridge after failing to remember his favorite color?

Posted by: wth at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (v0R5T)

252 231
225 218: there are more photos than the ed buck pics. dude is a predator.

Have you seen any?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:42 PM (6XlcD)

Last night. What a POS.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (1CjJc)

253 233
Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.

The boomer death toll is going to be picking up steam

Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

I'm not dead yet!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (hmgiv)

254 OMG.. The poll troll is here

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (6XlcD)

255 236 233 Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.

The boomer death toll is going to be picking up steam

Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

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Soon, we'll live in a world without Pythons.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (q80AH)

Everything and everyone dies, I know.

Still sucks.

Terry Jones was always one of the good Pythons

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (l4C/z)

256 What's it going to take for these anonymous sources to be our sides whistleblowers where we can use this against Shifty's whistleblower?

Posted by: redridinghood at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (wiXsO)

257 231: yes. look up on bing, adam schiff bib overalls photo. first pic. tells you all you need to know about that cornholing fuck.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (KP5rU)

258 Any gov't official who talks /or acts to remove a duly elected president should immediately be removed from gov't and be forever barred from gov't. This is is the stuff of totalitarians.

Well there are degrees. Lets say you're in the white house when Obama takes over and wants to "fundamentally transform" America into a socialist paradise/tyranny. Working on a way to get that guy out of office would not be something awful.

And in fact wanting to get a president out of office is kind of the job of the opposing party. Its how and why you want it to happen that is the problem.

Lying, inventing nonsense, twisting words, etc... that's bad and that's wrong. Just wanting him out of office, that's normal. I wanted Obama out of office the first moment he stepped into it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (KZzsI)

259 Monmouth is a helluva drug!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (+y/Ru)

260 254 OMG.. The poll troll is here
Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (6XlcD)

After 2016 who the hell pays attention to polls?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (H8QX8)

261 Dismissing something as a conspiracy theory is, itself, often a conspiracy. And that's not a theory.

Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (f0223)

262 So, current status:

In an 'impeachment trial' anonymous witnesses, classified documents, and inversion of constitutional rights was passed by the US House of Representatives.

US Senate can not, given the information presented, deliver a 'guilty' verdict within constitutional limits. But gossip girls want more 'information'.

Coming to a county courthouse near you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (MIKMs)

263 253 233
Oh, Terry Jones from Monty Python died.

The boomer death toll is going to be picking up steam

Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

I'm not dead yet!!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (hmgiv)

You hear that? He says he's not dead.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (l4C/z)

264 257 231: yes. look up on bing, adam schiff bib overalls photo. first pic. tells you all you need to know about that cornholing fuck.

Is that the photo with the little black boy? If it is it was years ago when he was in the Big brother mentoring program

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:48 PM (6XlcD)

265 The Pres is roadkill

Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (045k4)

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The Style Guide mandates "It's going to be long night for Trump" on election night. Get it right!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:48 PM (LISuA)

266 Off topic and not that it matters...

When on vacation the other week in St. Martin, I thought I was having another heart attack. Woke up with a pain in the left arm, very similar to how it felt when I had my original attack.

After half a day, the arm/shoulder was still hurting so we went to the medical center on the Dutch side, which was better than the one on the French side where we were staying.

The emergency entrance looked like a check cashing store. Locked door, thick glass and a receptionist you have to talk to before you're buzzed in.

$200 cash gets you in the door. I was wired up, got an EKG and they did a full work up on blood. Everything was fine (East Indian doctor who was really nice) then you go out into another holding area where you pay the balance due ($381) before being buzzed out.

Pretty cheap considering what this would cost anywhere in the States.

Posted by: jwest at January 22, 2020 12:48 PM (U6f/q)

267 >>Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

and the cosmic injustice is that we can't trade out Richard Simmons, Phil Donahue, and Linda Ronstadt in their stead.

Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:48 PM (QgtlX)

268 The Pres is roadkill
Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM

Oh, ffs, just stop already!

Posted by: The Chicken at January 22, 2020 12:48 PM (ejd/p)

269 I still can figure out why Trump didn't fire every Obama holdover on day 1.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 22, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)

I thought at the time it was because he needed to catch them in the act. Monitor and gather evidence. Enemies closer sort of thing. I still don't know if that's true.

But everything Trump does seems like a terrible strategy until it doesn't. It's kind of his hallmark.

Posted by: ... at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (uEbPt)

270 He is awful. He hasn't backed down or apologized or toned down his rhetoric.

He really is a bad one.

I hope he goes down HARD.

Shit-for-Brains is a sick psycho. Soon to be proven to be a pedo too.

You gotta give the Giant Progressive Election Machine credit for getting an imbecile like that installed in our Congress. And the muzzie Omar and Donkey Chompers, too.

Just think how much better off we'd be as a country if we had Americans running an organization like that. The Constitution would be followed, the budget would be balanced, the borders would be secure, taxes would be low, jobs would be plentiful...

Instead #WASTF.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (HaL55)

271 Terry Jones was always one of the good Pythons

He always seemed a sweet, gentle spirit. Talented director as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)

272 Shit, guys, the polls look bad. We should probably just cut bait and back Weld. He is electable!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (QbTK/)

273
"When a man's partner is killed, he's supposed to do something about it."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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When Mike Hammer discovers that Charlotte Bennett murdered his war time Buddy (who had saved Hammer, and lost his arm in the process) Hammer confronts her with the information he's uncovered: she was the intruder who murdered Jack Williams. Charlotte attempts to seduce Hammer and kill him with a hidden gun but he beats her to it while they embrace, shooting her in cold blood. With her dying breath, Dr. Bennett asks Hammer "How could you?" Using the famous closing line from Spillane's original novel, Hammer responds "It was easy."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (eYD0A)

274 I'm not dead yet!

Posted by: The Poll Troll at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (LISuA)

275 260 254 OMG.. The poll troll is here
Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (6XlcD)

After 2016 who the hell pays attention to polls?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (H8QX

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The polls nailed the races in 2018 (esp the live polling of NYT/Sienna), so any intelligent person will pay attention.

Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (045k4)

276 I wanted Obama out of office the first moment he stepped into it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020

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I'd like to be able to say I wanted him out of public office back after he made the infamous speech that put him on everybody's radar in August of 2004. But I was not and am not prescient.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:50 PM (Ejm1K)

277
Ciamarella and Misko. Misko and Ciamarella. In their minds, acting in their own private buddy movie about unconventional but effective bad-boy undercover cops who Blow the Lid Off the Whole Thing.

But they look, sound, and behave like low-T mean girls.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 22, 2020 12:50 PM (1PyAH)

278 and the cosmic injustice is that we can't trade out Richard Simmons, Phil Donahue, and Linda Ronstadt in their stead.

"No one escapes me, in the end"
--Death

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:50 PM (KZzsI)

279 big brother mentoring my pasty, spackled, white ass. call it whatever you want. dude is psycho.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:50 PM (KP5rU)

280 Nood.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 22, 2020 12:50 PM (3sOO0)

281 Yes, let us commence with the "taking out" of our political opponents.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 22, 2020 12:50 PM (+U6PJ)

282 "No one escapes me, in the end"
--Death

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RBG begs to differ.

Posted by: SH at January 22, 2020 12:51 PM (sX1BW)

283 so any intelligent person will pay attention.
Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (045k4)

Nope. Not where Trump is concerned. Sell it to someone else.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:51 PM (H8QX8)

284 267 >>Mike Resnick, Niel Peart, now Terry Jones... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:43 PM (l4C/z)

and the cosmic injustice is that we can't trade out Richard Simmons, Phil Donahue, and Linda Ronstadt in their stead.
Posted by: Zod at January 22, 2020 12:48 PM (QgtlX)

Yeah!

I wanna pick who lives and who dies.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:51 PM (l4C/z)

285 The Pres is roadkill

Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:46 PM (045k4)

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You're gonna have to pay scale if you do that again

Posted by: Dead Horses Union Shop Steward at January 22, 2020 12:51 PM (LISuA)

286 Bloomberg is said to be switching his money from campaign ads for President to ads advocating for Trump's impeachment. What a tool. What say you Judge Judy and "Um" is not an answer.

Posted by: Cheri at January 22, 2020 12:51 PM (oiNtH)

287 242
I find it great fun to talk about the alleged photos of Schiff, but
until there's some evidence I don't fool myself into actually believing
that. It'd be a fun thing to try and get those two elderly black women
mentioned earlier in the thread to believe, though. And Millenials,
it'd probably be easy to talk millenials into believing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 22, 2020 12:44 PM (Kpl3J)

Schiff has a collection of associates including a pedo Dr. and, of course, Ed Buck. When I ask myself, How many pedos do I associate with on a routine basis?, the answer is zero. When I ask myself, what would I do if I caught wind of pedo activity of someone I knew?, the answer is turn their ass in to the police and ensure the child is in protective custody, if necessary.
There is some there, there, I believe, and it is a matter of time before we see it come out.

Also, I spent some time in CenLA. Loved LA.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 22, 2020 12:52 PM (1CjJc)

288 Jessica Valenti@JessicaValenti
On the anniversary of Roe v Wade all I can think about is how my mom (in the middle) marched for abortion rights, how I've had to do the same, and that my daughter be the third generation of women in my family fighting to remind this country that we are people.

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This is like Simon Wiesenthal saluting Reinhard Heydrich.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 22, 2020 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

289 judge judy is an rbg wannabe. fuck her pandering ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:53 PM (KP5rU)

290 After 2016 who the hell pays attention to polls?

Same kind of people who consult tea leaves and check their astrology every day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:53 PM (KZzsI)

291 "When a man's partner is killed, he's supposed to do something about it."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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When Mike Hammer discovers that Charlotte Bennett murdered his war time Buddy (who had saved Hammer, and lost his arm in the process) Hammer confronts her with the information he's uncovered: she was the intruder who murdered Jack Williams. Charlotte attempts to seduce Hammer and kill him with a hidden gun but he beats her to it while they embrace, shooting her in cold blood. With her dying breath, Dr. Bennett asks Hammer "How could you?" Using the famous closing line from Spillane's original novel, Hammer responds "It was easy."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 22, 2020

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True enough. Good cold post-war toughness.

The difference between that and Maltese Falcon, though, is that Sam Spade doesn't particularly *like* his partner Miles Archer, and in fact has been cuckolding Miles with Miles's wife. Spade is not the prototypical tarnished knight. His armor has some big holes in it. But he does the right thing in the end.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:53 PM (Ejm1K)

292 The difference between that and Maltese Falcon,
though, is that Sam Spade doesn't particularly *like* his partner Miles
Archer, and in fact has been cuckolding Miles with Miles's wife. Spade
is not the prototypical tarnished knight. His armor has some big holes
in it. But he does the right thing in the end.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:53 PM (Ejm1K)

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Now do Paradise Lost.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 22, 2020 12:56 PM (LISuA)

293 290 After 2016 who the hell pays attention to polls?

Same kind of people who consult tea leaves and check their astrology every day.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 22, 2020 12:53 PM (KZzsI)
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The GOP underperformed their poll numbers in the major Governor races last year.

Posted by: ggreg at January 22, 2020 12:57 PM (045k4)

294 schiff loves his little boys of coler. he's a dangerous pile of mutant flesh. he bears watching.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 22, 2020 12:38 PM (KP5rU)

Did the vids showing him a regular visitor of Ed Buck (and friends) get exposure yet?

Probably just a rumor... so spread it like its a deep state secret.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 22, 2020 12:57 PM (1g7ch)

295

ggreg does the right thing in the end.

Posted by: Harry Wanker at January 22, 2020 12:59 PM (lHr8/)

296 291 "When a man's partner is killed, he's supposed to do something about it."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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When Mike Hammer discovers that Charlotte Bennett murdered his war time Buddy (who had saved Hammer, and lost his arm in the process) Hammer confronts her with the information he's uncovered: she was the intruder who murdered Jack Williams. Charlotte attempts to seduce Hammer and kill him with a hidden gun but he beats her to it while they embrace, shooting her in cold blood. With her dying breath, Dr. Bennett asks Hammer "How could you?" Using the famous closing line from Spillane's original novel, Hammer responds "It was easy."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 22, 2020

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True enough. Good cold post-war toughness.

The difference between that and Maltese Falcon, though, is that Sam Spade doesn't particularly *like* his partner Miles Archer, and in fact has been cuckolding Miles with Miles's wife. Spade is not the prototypical tarnished knight. His armor has some big holes in it. But he does the right thing in the end.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 22, 2020 12:53 PM (Ejm1K)

Much to everyone's surprise, but his own.

Sam Spade was supposed to be what every private detective imagined himself to be. Tough, smart, always able to get the better of everyone he went up against, be they cop, crook or broad.

The Maltese Falcon is really good but Red Harvest and the Glass Key feel more real.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 12:59 PM (l4C/z)

297 Jessica Valenti@JessicaValenti
On the anniversary of Roe v Wade all I can think about is how my mom (in the middle) marched for abortion rights, how I've had to do the same, and that my daughter be the third generation of women in my family fighting to remind this country that we are people.

Damn shame your mom didn't avail herself of those rights. Think on that. Same goes for you too, Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 22, 2020 01:00 PM (Jk+3L)

298 nood, by the way

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 22, 2020 01:02 PM (l4C/z)

299 Deep State longing for the days when they only needed a Mannlicher Carcano to solve their problems.

Posted by: BluesFish at January 22, 2020 01:03 PM (WQZ1O)

300
OMG.. The poll troll is here
Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (6XlcD)

After 2016 who the hell pays attention to polls?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 22, 2020 12:47 PM (H8QX

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This is a salient question.

I have known since I was a small boy, when my father (who is well-versed in stats explained the way the game is played to me), that public polling units are corrupt and inefficient, and by design never produce an accurate result until it's absolutely necessary.

I think most people instinctively caught on to that in 2016 when the public polling units didn't even bother with their usual song-and-dance routine.

But let's put it aside. Let's pretend, using a Golden Gate-sized suspension of disbelief, that they're honest and competent.

What does honest, competent polling matter?

The answer is: not a whit.

After that polling disaster, the years 2016-2020 have belied the basic predicate of polling as an industry. And that predicate is that public opinion matters.

Vote for whoever you want... it doesn't mean shit. Why do we still measure it?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 22, 2020 01:03 PM (uKj5K)

301 Jessica Valenti@JessicaValenti
On the anniversary of Roe v Wade all I can think about is how my mom (in the middle) marched for abortion rights, how I've had to do the same, and that my daughter be the third generation of women in my family fighting to remind this country that we are people.
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What sort of cognitive dissonance does it take to type this with a straight face?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 22, 2020 01:07 PM (CqE5x)

302 Using the famous closing line from Spillane's original novel, Hammer responds "It was easy."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 22, 2020 12:49 PM (eYD0A)

Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: ... at January 22, 2020 01:07 PM (uEbPt)

303 Bloomberg is said to be switching his money from
campaign ads for President to ads advocating for Trump's impeachment.
What a tool. What say you Judge Judy and "Um" is not an answer.

Posted by: Cheri at January 22, 2020 12:51 PM (oiNtH)

I said all along, he's working for the DNC. I don't know what the arrangement is.

Posted by: ... at January 22, 2020 01:08 PM (uEbPt)

304 112 It's taken 3 years for Trump to finally begin to appreciate just how much corruption was inside the Executive Branch, including his own White House. It's going to take a 2nd term before he finally begins to get a handle on it. Priebus came up - have you noticed how he has now disappeared completely? What a total piece of shit he was.

AND I remember right at the beginning, Trump was betrayed by Chris Christie. Starting from the convention, Trump had tapped Christ Christie to start working on a transition team, to make a full list of appointments that could be done quickly. Christie was supposed to have the contacts to be able to do this. Well, a couple weeks after the election, Trump finally was informed that Christie had instead packed all of his choices with Christ Christie sycophants and cronies, so that he would have a huge amount of influence over Trump. So, Trump dumped Christie and threw Christi's appointment list into the trash - but that meant starting from scratch barely 6 weeks before inauguration.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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THIS! And it needs to be repeated from the rooftops so that many folks understand the crux of it all.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - Not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 22, 2020 01:08 PM (9B/d8)

305 I used to know Adam Schiff very very well.

Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at January 22, 2020 01:11 PM (4l3fZ)

306 Yet the psyop/strawman of flat earth society enjoys full blue checkmark status.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 22, 2020 03:09 PM (keoqc)

307 Biden like all liberal democrats are all part of the globalists plans to end America and make us all party of the World Community

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 22, 2020 04:58 PM (wGqjj)

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