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"I saw a meme floating around yesterday that claimed that the Democrats have tried to impeach every Republican president since Eisenhower. "I thought, hmmmm, that's interesting, can that really be true? I decided to do a little digging. "The site that was on the top of the list of Google results for this topic was snopes, which rated it "mostly false." So I rolled my eyes and clicked on the link, just to see how they'd spin it. The heading they gave it was 'Mostly False'. So I thought, ok, maybe it's just one of those urban legends that is factually deficient. But wait, here is the first thing they said about it:
What's True"So why is this 'mostly false'? Apparently, the Democrats never got around to impeaching Ford, who only served for two years. Well then, it looks to me like the meme is 5/6th correct. Not so fast, says snopes. None of the attempts against any of the other Republicans ever had any significant support from either party. I don't understand why that argument invalidates the claim. I guess snopes is arguing like Whoopi Goldberg, i.e. the GOP presidents may have been impeached, but they weren't impeached-impeached. "The facts stated in the snopes entry were essentially correct. But the snopes partisans twisted themselves into knots trying to minimize and explain away what the Democrats had done. "Previously, I had accused the Democrats of turning the impeachment process into just another instrument in their political toolbox, just so they could get Trump. I thought that was a new #OrangeManBad thing. Apparently, I was mistaken. They've been doing this for awhile. Democratic bad faith on this is a lot older than I had realized. Also, despite the outrageous spin, I actually learned something from the snopes entry. So visiting that site was not a complete waste of time."
Articles of impeachment were introduced against five of the six Republican presidents who have served since President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Yeah, That Was Why We Elected Him, Doofus:
/Meanwhile, In Normal America:
President Donald Trump greeted with massive cheering and USA chants before the national title game between Clemson and LSU. pic.twitter.com/DWArMT1Qz5
— David Hookstead (@dhookstead) January 14, 2020
Making Iran Great Again: This is just a collection of some Persian eye candy, actors and models, I found with Google. There's no intended connection between any of them. I think the 'rons will enjoy the hotties, but I don't do so well correctly gauging the tastes of the 'ettes. So we'll see.
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Monday's Celebs: Actress Eva Green and Jonny Lee Miller, whom most of you probably recognize from the Elementary TV series. Both had roles in the 2012 reboot of the old Dark Shadows
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:23 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 11:23 AM (8FcHK)
Posted by: RKinRoanoke at January 15, 2020 11:24 AM (CIEsd)
Posted by: Dr. T at January 15, 2020 11:24 AM (D+X5I)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 15, 2020 11:24 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:24 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:24 AM (bDqIh)
Moscow Mitch??
More like Mandarin Mitch.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 11:23 AM (8FcHK)
Or even amnesty loving Mexico Mitch. Whatever happened to Hillary's reset button?
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:25 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: JT at January 15, 2020 11:26 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 11:26 AM (Hcfsr)
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at January 15, 2020 11:26 AM (kqVdD)
This fucker may walk for being too toxic to get a trial.
Posted by: henry at January 15, 2020 11:26 AM (JMDly)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (JaSdS)
Posted by: DR.WTF at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (aS1PU)
But yeah, snopes went full-on left back when they were covering for Barry. "He couldn't do anything wrong" was rated 100% true.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (JLaUz)
Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (X+a7J)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (Ki5SV)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (tT0V4)
(I was going to say "cuter than Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer," but realized what a low bar that is.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:28 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:28 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 15, 2020 11:28 AM (KP5rU)
I still have nothing that even looks promising. Should that change y'all will be the first to know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 11:28 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: engineer at January 15, 2020 11:28 AM (P0MEW)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 15, 2020 11:28 AM (JLaUz)
We rate this statement as somewhat true
Posted by: snopes at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (tT0V4)
Posted by: RKinRoanoke at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (CIEsd)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (KP5rU)
They haven't had those before the Billion Dollar Baby?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (JLaUz)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: rammajamma at January 15, 2020 11:30 AM (PQRcz)
Boy, that number 1 is something else. The eyes and high cheekbones remind me of Carolyn Jones.
**deep sigh of regret and longing**
I should make myself another cup of tea.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 15, 2020 11:30 AM (Ki5SV)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at January 15, 2020 11:30 AM (IttZ7)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 15, 2020 11:30 AM (ZGrMX)
Kinda explains the black arm band that Nanzi was wearing the day after Soleiamani was blasted out of his mortal coil.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (tT0V4)
Posted by: Dr. T at January 15, 2020 11:24 AM (D+X5I)
You had it correct first time.
Posted by: Tsar Vladimir Putin, Savior of the Slavic Peoples at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: rammajamma at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (PQRcz)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (Boy/L)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (OUkUA)
Of the Persian guys, only No. 5 has an excuse for not shaving -- he's got a real beard. The rest of 'em, I want to say, "Dollar Shave Club! Check into it!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Prince Harry's Razors
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (e284m)
They've never gone as far as they have this time, or behaved as crazily. But the hard Left has tried to impeach anyone who was even a nominal conservative. That they have been unsuccessful to date is due only to the fact that the hard Left represented an inadequate proportion of the party. Now that the hard Left controls the Party, they can successfully pursue this whenever they have an HoR majority.
Whenever there is a Dem HoR majority and Republican president, I suspect you can assume impeachment *will* occur. When there is a Dem HoR majority and a Dem president, you can probably assume that impeachment of other office holders will occur as applicable.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (I2dne)
If Meghan Markle left England because RAYSIZM, why would she move to a country where the Prime Minister wore blackface???
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (wtvvX)
Who the heck wants to look at a bunch of dudes?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (xfb67)
When I'm finished with my "negotiations", I'll be right there!
Posted by: Future MSNBC superstar Shep Smith at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (IttZ7)
you just carbon-dated yourself
me too, I remember her well
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (Kpl3J)
Would Schiff, as a Manager, be exempt from being called as a witness?
Posted by: Joe Mama
Would he be allowed to ask himself questions?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (xfb67)
It has been downhill since the Lyin of the Senate got away with killing an innocent woman.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: henry at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (JMDly)
Posted by: davidt at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (l3+k2)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
Yep, better than that Johnnie Lee Miller critter, that's for sure. US and British "stars" are so metro
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (m45I2)
My Cacarettes are flavorful. They taste like avocado.
Posted by: Robert Francis O'Rourke at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (G//24)
Wow, that sounds great!
Posted by: Chris M at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (eAZVt)
435 I bet a lot of artists had unstable personalities, and back then there wasn't any concept of mental health.
They poured their passion and online obsession into art.
Van Gogh was a famous example, but Michaelangelo - anyone who spent all.those years painting a ceiling had to have been a bit crazy.
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 15, 2020 11:13 AM (G546f)
Our own grammie winger once commented about doing really good art in her younger days when she was, in her words, certifiable. Then after she got help and medication, her desire to do art went away.
Someone asked her if she missed not being an artist and she replied, heavens no, I'd rather be sane.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (64Y16)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
Seconded!
Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (87gB3)
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (DB16e)
On Monday, I found out the department I worked in at my former company was being completely downsized. If I hadn't taken this unexepected offer, I'd be out of work now.
It's weird to be blessed in this way. God was looking out for me, and I totally didn't deserve His Mercy.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (BeYX8)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (9Om/r)
Would Schiff, as a Manager, be exempt from being called as a witness?
Posted by: Joe Mama
Given the precedent the Dems used in the House, no.
One of their witnesses then became a Dem counsel and asked questions of other witnesses.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (BJAwB)
Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (JaSdS
Really, they appointed Schiff? Well, this is going to be a sh*t-show of epic proportions. I wonder what he'll do when he discovers that he isn't actually in charge of anything?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (qcIWB)
Posted by: Muldoon
I guess "An Urban Delight" was employed because the tag line "The San Francisco Treat" was already taken
Posted by: Boswell at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (32YRo)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (pw+jk)
After being seen for the first time since news of her royal exit,
Meghan Markle stopped by a women's center in Vancouver. The 38-year-old
continued her philanthropic efforts on Tuesday at Downtown Eastside
Women's Centre, where she discussed "issues affecting women in the
community."
The community center, which provides support and basic necessities to
over 500 women and children every day, shared a sweet photo from
Meghan's visit on their Facebook page, explaining Meghan and the women
enjoyed tea together. . . .
First appearance at a battered women's shelter. Nice touch.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (bDqIh)
Like I would recognize anybody from a tv series made after 1980.
Posted by: BignJames at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: Joe Mama
Of course. Bird law in this country is not governed by reason.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (KUaJL)
++++++++++
I suspect that Ford wasn't so much a duration thing so much as it was a "post-Nixon high" that they were all riding. They got rid of Nixon and were jubilant. Ford probably didn't even cross their minds, since they knew he was effectively a benchwarmer post-Nixon, wasn't elected in the first place, and they had already won.
Today, they'd impeach Ford right away, but only because the Party has become so badly broken to the Left.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (I2dne)
Schiff as the lead Manager for the Impeachment trial. Seeing the
destruction of him and of the Democrats will be fun.
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM
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I called this 100% wrong yesterday. I thought no way pelosi could be this stupid and have schiff leading the team, but she did it.
He is not going to be able to make $hit up in the Senate like he did in the House. And he is sure not going to be able to tell witnesses not to answer questions or quash questions form republicans like he did in the House.
His appointment makes no sense.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (aW5/6)
Otherwise described in smart military blog as:
Panzer I vs M1 Abrams
Or possibly
Panzer I vs BOLO MK 33
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (e284m)
Posted by: Joe Mama
Given the precedent the Dems used in the House, no.
One of their witnesses then became a Dem counsel and asked questions of other witnesses.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (BJAwB)
Everyone seems to be laboring under the delusion that there are rules in play here.
Calvinball, people. This is Calvinball, all the way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)
Snopes ceased to be a reliable source a long time ago. Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (mpXpK)
Flem Snopes was *never* a reliable source.
Posted by: Zod Faulkner at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (qXNVo)
You done real good. Very fine examples of Iranian male eye candy.
Posted by: all doubt removed at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (S2eH9)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (BeYX
Good for you! Maybe he could throw a crumb or two of mercy my way while he's at it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Comrade Bernie, First Among Equals at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (pYQR/)
Siriusly, good for you.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (ug/9A)
Holy moly, Number 4 Iranian dude! Nice...
Posted by: Brunnhilde at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (aW5/6)
Yeah, that guy too. No.s 2 and 3, not so much.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (ptqGC)
♫♫/♪
Aruba, Jamaica, ooh I wanna take ya
Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego,
baby why don't we go,
That's where I wanna go
Way down to Cocabacco, Co.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (DB16e)
Well, that's just because of the wicked AmeriKKKans and their evil sanctions.
Same with Cuba and North Korea.
Freakin' paradises on Earth if it weren't for Uncle Sam screwing them over.
(Seriously. This is how 99.9% of academia thinks.)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (Ct55T)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
Seconded!
Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (87gB3)
Thirded !!
Posted by: Garrett ( okay not garrett) at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (qcIWB)
Calvinball, people. This is Calvinball, all the way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)
++++++++++++
Calvinball is the best way I have ever seen to describe the evil and self-aggrandizing farce that the federal government has become.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (I2dne)
That sounds like a great idea. Pre-crack.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (HaL55)
That's the only Iranians I know, but I'll ante up.
Posted by: Downcast at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (O9Q99)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (BJAwB)
It was started by a married couple and his stripper (or escort?) mistress - a Kattie Hill-style 'throuple.' If that wasn't demonstration enough of their morals they hired a young feminist Lefty blogger to manage/fact-check the political entries.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (uznOh)
Posted by: Andy Stern at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (OT66t)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (KP5rU)
I'll give you style points for originality.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (64Y16)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
Just when you think no one looks lie a Cary Grant or a Gary Cooper, here comes...Iranian Guy.
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Occam at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (ejd/p)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 11:37 AM (xfb67)
++++++++++++
When the outcome is not in doubt, control the message to the greatest degree possible. You will not win, but being an effective wedge has its own value.
Whether it will be effective is yet to be determined.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (I2dne)
Why doesn't conservative media start naming her that?
Not to call something by its proper name is to tell a lie.
Kudos for the Photoshopped picture, Oregon Muse!
Posted by: Steven Browning at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (0YZ6P)
Otherwise described in smart military blog as:
Panzer I vs M1 Abrams
Or possibly
Panzer I vs BOLO MK 33
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (e284m)
Panzer 1 vs A-10 Thunderbolt...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (bDqIh)
Tell #5 to wash my camel.
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020
*
*
She may not be the most glamorous of the bunch, but I'd be glad to have her wash my . . . back. My back; that's it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (T6t7i)
Way down to Cocabacco, Co."
LOL! And a good earworm for this gray Wednesday.
Posted by: Chris M at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (eAZVt)
#5 female is the smokin'est hottie of the group!
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (DB16e)
Otherwise described in smart military blog as:
Panzer I vs M1 Abrams
Or possibly
Panzer I vs BOLO MK 33
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (e284m)
Panzer 1 vs A-10 Thunderbolt...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (wtvvX)
Retard vs brain surgeon
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (9Om/r)
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (U7k5w)
He makes our Hollywood "hotties" look like a bunch of swishy, scolding, envirotard, wussies.
Oh wait, they are.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at January 15, 2020 11:27 AM (X+a7J)
Sorry, no, it's cocarettes all the way down.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (64Y16)
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 15, 2020 11:40 AM (CLteG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (xfb67)
Posted by: cfo mom at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (RfzVr)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (JUOKG)
The only sense I can see is that Nancy is setting him up to be humiliated and destroyed on national television in revenge for the crap he has put her through.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (uznOh)
He is not going to be able to make $hit up in the Senate like he did in the House. And he is sure not going to be able to tell witnesses not to answer questions or quash questions form republicans like he did in the House.
His appointment makes no sense.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (JUOKG)
Can't be called as a witness now?
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (cF8AT)
See, this ^^^^^ is why you don't play games with impeachment.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (Boy/L)
I didn't know about the salient fact in CBD's post, though it doesn't surprise me at all. Of course the power-demons tried to impeach anyone who had power they wanted. They're addicts.
What's more disturbing is that Republicans haven't retaliated in kind. Only with with President William Jefferson "Butthole" Clinton.* But also - not surprising at all. Fags.
*This is the Clinton's full title, AFAIC, because it's the way my father referred to him in every case during his Presidency.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (uKj5K)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (ug/9A)
this stupid and have schiff leading the team, but she did it.
He
is not going to be able to make $hit up in the Senate like he did in the
House. And he is sure not going to be able to tell witnesses not to
answer questions or quash questions form republicans like he did in the
House.
His appointment makes no sense.
He's expendable, and already damaged goods. That's why she picked him.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (T6t7i)
My kid is taking some "Middle East Governments" class at college. She was asking me about Iran and the protesters. I told her to look up images from 60's-70's Iran and compare them to today. Shocked would be an understatement.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay
I remember seeing pictures from college yearbooks from several Middle Eastern countries from that era. They were indistinguishable from American students of that era. Then things changed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (m45I2)
Something is wrong with her face.
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020
*
*
It's not inches away from mine on our shared pillow, that's the problem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (BeYX8)
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (uznOh)
I don't know. Maybe Harry and Meghan are as horrible as they are looking these days...
But somewhere in the back of my head I think, Meghxit goes down much easier than Pedophilia.
Knocks the Royal Pedo right off the headlines.
I guess I'm just becoming more cynical these days.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (vEIlU)
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (uznOh)
It's not airbrushed?
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (DB16e)
Oh and the DOW is up 175+ points.
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (cF8AT)
Love that Snopes anecdote, GP. I remember back in the day in HotAir comments somebody occasionally posting a link that claimed the GOP (for some reason I don't recall and I think involving a lawsuit) supposedly agreeing to never pursue the Democrat party over clear evidence of voter fraud -- which is why it is done overtly and with impunity. Anybody know if that's true or an urban myth?
(Currently traveling so don't have time to look it up myself.)
Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (fhOlI)
Calvinball, people. This is Calvinball, all the way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)
++++++++++++
Calvinball is the best way I have ever seen to describe the evil and self-aggrandizing farce that the federal government has become.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 11:38 AM (I2dne)
Royal Fizbin, I mean impeachment!
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk, Representative from the great State of Kans ass. at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (NgKpN)
Panzer 1 vs A-10 Thunderbolt...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 11:39 AM (wtvvX)
Heh - the PZKW I probably didn't hold up well against the A-10's Thunderbolt Grand-daddy the P47D.
But, you have to wonder if when the smoke cleared they could use the bisected PZKW I as a cutaway museum piece once the A10 had made a pass.
Well, you might not wonder, but I do
Either way - Adam Schiff is toast when it's over.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (e284m)
Schiff is a Fiat 500.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020
*
*
And Trump is a 7-Series BMW.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (bDqIh)
*the "I've been wrong about everything , so far" disclaimer appiles*
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:44 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: IC at January 15, 2020 11:44 AM (a0IVu)
Jeffries Tubes. He won't mind.
Posted by: Rchard Gere at January 15, 2020 11:44 AM (uznOh)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (JUOKG)
Can't be called as a witness now?
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM
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Yes he can and by his own rules that he set during the hearings. His lead democrat lawyer was a witness at first and after he "testified" he walked over and sat on the bench as a democrat lawyer.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:44 AM (JUOKG)
Anna Catamount is in some meeting that is boring her to tears and her mind wanders to dealing with Space Gerbils.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:44 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (9VeU0)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:44 AM (JUOKG)
But what are the Senate rules on that?
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (cF8AT)
My kid is taking some "Middle East Governments" class at college. She was asking me about Iran and the protesters. I told her to look up images from 60's-70's Iran and compare them to today. Shocked would be an understatement.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay
I remember seeing pictures from college yearbooks from several Middle Eastern countries from that era. They were indistinguishable from American students of that era. Then things changed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (aKsyK)
Places like Afghanistan & Iran were exotic travel destinations, off the beaten track, but pretty safe for Western tourists.
Posted by: josephistan at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (4a9Vv)
That should tell us something, but we'll ignore it because otherwise someone out there might be enjoying themselves, and we can't allow that to happen.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (e284m)
Posted by: Roland THTG at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (88+cf)
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (cF8AT)
The senate sets the rules for the trial, so yes they could call him if they wanted to.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (NWiLs)
They're going full retard in an effort to hold their retard base.
Posted by: davidt at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (l3+k2)
Schiff is a Fiat 500.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (ug/9A)
so be prepared to sell Cruz or junk in the next 5 years ???
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (rpxSz)
fap
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (CLteG)
The only sense I can see is that Nancy is setting him up to be humiliated and destroyed on national television in revenge for the crap he has put her through.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (hLRSq) "
Oddly plausible, more so than many of the other explanations ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (zlgJP)
I would be talking openly about what you're going to impeach over before they're even elected.
I'd even be listing the reasons for impeaching each candidate before they get the nomination.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (BJAwB)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (m45I2)
Absolute, undeniable truth. Probably could LIVE in those eyes.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (aW5/6)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (m45I2)
CNN is not a news organization.
It's an entertainment network that profits off of turning democracy into reality TV.
Democrats should be blacklisting the network, not participating in its circus acts.
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Oh Jeez! If I don't watch CNN now, does that make me a BernieBro?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: josephistan at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM
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Currently there are no rules in the Senate. Those have to be voted on when they actually convene the trial.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (so+oy)
And #5 looks like a young Lou Diamond Phillips.
If you are into that sort of thing?
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (uznOh)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (JUOKG)
Can anyone make the case that there's an actual plan here? This entire thing is just Dems making shit up on the spur of the moment to appease their base. Just like that entire "let's hold onto the articles for a month for no reason!" Nancy didn't even think of it until the idea got parroted on CNN 24 hours after idiot Lawrence Tribe started pushing it. It was just a totally spur of the moment, whack decision.
I put forth the proposition that every decision the Dem caucus has made since the Mueller report failed have been totally spur of the moment, whack decisions. We're not fighting geniuses here, we're fighting idiots. It's only hard because there's a lot of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (BeYX8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)
+++++++++++++++
Nah, 300 million+ Americans don't watch CNN, and they aren't all Burny Bros
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 11:48 AM (I2dne)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:48 AM (Boy/L)
Schiff vs. Ted Cruz
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:31 AM (Boy/L)
My understanding is that the Senators are not allowed to speak during the trial. So, it'll be a Schiff solo.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 15, 2020 11:48 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Anachronda at January 15, 2020 11:48 AM (sGtp+)
Impeachment is not a process for the Democrat party, it's a way of life.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (m45I2)
It's what momma taught them to do when they lose. Pitch a hissy fit.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 11:48 AM (e284m)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (ptqGC)
over 500 women and children every day, shared a sweet photo from
Meghan's visit on their Facebook page, explaining Meghan and the women
enjoyed tea together. . .
--
I'm no Women's Centerologist, but how much was this lady giving the speech worth again?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (JLaUz)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:46 AM (JUOKG)
Ah ok. Thought they were going with the 'Clinton rules'.
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (cF8AT)
/Flying monkey Nadler, bumping his ass on the tarmac
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (m45I2)
Would be interesting to read a linguist's academic work on military history and language--is it safe to assume that the nation with the shorter words is more likely to win because they're spending more time killing (a little faster on the trigger) and less time saying "Panzerkampppffffvaggggen!"
Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (qXNVo)
Don't.
Just.
Don't.
Every little bit of non-support helps.
Duck Duck Go is a great alternative, just as fast, and often will give you results you want. Like, not getting Snopes. Gibiru, even freaking Bing if ya gotta.
Posted by: clutch cargo at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (Z1ykJ)
No Pelosi as the Wicked Witch Impeachment meme would be complete without
a few flying monkeys. Especially on the Gorilla Pundit thread.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:42 AM (m45I2)
_________
For the Nadler monkey to be airborne, it would have to be depicted as lifted by a Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (UC4QC)
humiliated and destroyed on national television in revenge for the crap
he has put her through.
If only he could implode in such a spectacular fashion that he perjures himself, is arrested by the Sergeant at Arms and is removed from office. By lunchtime.
Fingers crossed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (Kpl3J)
++++++++++++
I don't knwo that I'd go that far, but I do think impeachment blew up in their faces because Trump properly fucked up their rollout by releasing the transcript. None of this was supposed to go down this way. They got burned and burned badly by that. Now they're panicky. So they don't have years-long planning, no. In that way this is different from round 1 of the collusion hoax. But they considered this decision through their panic fog and think they have a play.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (I2dne)
Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (Y274z)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (Kpl3J)
Their Grand Plan failed when Hillary didn't win. Everything since then has been a Hail Mary pass to try to get power back.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (J+mig)
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Yeah, it infuriates me to hear people talking about their "culture." Their culture is younger than I am.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (JLaUz)
Oh, no no no no. They put thought into the Ukraine frame up. And then Trump released the transcript. Everything since THEN has been meth-addled blind meerkat decsion making.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (bDqIh)
I don't think so, all by itself. He can be asked questions (in writing) by any Senator, and any Senator can object, just as a manager.
If the Senate voted for it, he could be called as a witness.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (9VeU0)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (Hcfsr)
Posted by: davidt at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (l3+k2)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:47 AM (Kpl3J)
Democrats are like the goblins in Goblin Slayer. They're greedy, evil, murderous, rapacious, and, while generally not too bright, possessed of a degree of animal cunning. Also, as previously noted, there's a shit-ton of them.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: IC at January 15, 2020 11:44
You serious IC? Just goes to show ya, different strokes for different folks.
If I got shit faced and woke up next to that guy, I would run shrieking from the room and never drink again.
Posted by: cfo mom at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (RfzVr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (Jcvz2)
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (JoUsr)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (Boy/L)
When they prove this has all been a hoax. I say we let Trump have another 4 on top of the 8 years as POTUS.
The 1st 4 don't count, even though he rocked a lot done.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (vEIlU)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (Hcfsr)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 15, 2020 11:48 AM
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Trump gets to have his team in there also and they don't have to remain silent during the trial. They most certainly will not put up with any $hit from schiff.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (9VeU0)
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:52 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (iTXRQ)
And #5 looks like a young Lou Diamond Phillips.
If you are into that sort of thing?
I only perused the womyns, so can't comment on Lou.
Posted by: Roland THTG at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (88+cf)
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (9VeU0)
CNN is not a news organization.
It's an entertainment network that profits off of turning democracy into reality TV.
Democrats should be blacklisting the network, not participating in its circus acts.
- - - -
That's the same Carlos Maza, formerly of Vox, whom Steven Crowder mercilessly fact-checked and mocked, inspiring Maza to get the twitter mob to demand YouTube deplatform Crowder?
Gosh, and once again he is saying: I disagree with [someone who doesn't agree with me] they must be shut out of the discussion!!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (bDqIh)
COLLUSION!!!!
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (dH6mO)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (NWiLs)
You fucked up; you trusted me!
Posted by: God at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (uFCZe)
New York State spent years preparing this, sued for $1.6 Billion dollars, tried to make Exxon settle, said that they would Destroy! Exxon in court - and then they took it to court.
At the end of the trial, the Judge (and not a conservative judge, either!) tossed the ENTIRE case out, because he ruled that, after all these years of build up, the State had not been able to present ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that would back up any of their claims.
I expect the same thing to happen here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (CLteG)
/Flying monkey Nadler, bumping his ass on the tarmac
That's why they call it a "taildragger."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (Ejm1K)
Trump is a 1965 AR spider, mechanically FI beauty
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: clutch cargo at January 15, 2020 11:49 AM (Z1ykJ)
I switched to DDG a few months ago, and it has been steadily improving.
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (U7k5w)
That's the only Iranians I know, but I'll ante up.
Posted by: Downcast
Catherine Bell. (Army Wives, Good Witch)
Yeah. Born in London. Mom is Iranian.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (bd376)
Senators ask questions in writing.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:51 AM (9VeU0)
We need more chair tossing in the Senate.
Posted by: Roland THTG at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (88+cf)
can or cannot be called as a witness, Schiffty will claim not,
especially if declared can.
Posted by: davidt at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM
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If the rules get made to say witnesses can be called, schiff will not be able to refuse.
At this point in time we are all just speculating because there are currently no rules.
If mcconnell gets his wish there will not be any witnesses, but I don't think that will happen. My SWAG is the rules will be exactly the same as clinton's trial with witness testimony.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (JUOKG)
Because its impossible to decide guilt, or innocence, when you don't even know what the charges mean.
Then, go after the Ex Post Facto nature of said charges. They were created out of nothing, AFTER the fact.
Because the idea that he would not let his people testify, is CONTEMPT of Congress, not Obstruction. They HAD something they could charge him with, a legal charge, yet made up something new.
And abuse of Power means you did something legal but we don't like WHY you did it, which is a thought crime.
Posted by: Don Q at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (Ct55T)
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She put him in charge because he's a weasel who'll lie, cheat, and steal to achieve the Dem's goal.
Posted by: WisRich at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (G0vdT)
'The Senate Is On Trial': Jerry Nadler Says The Impeachment Is No Longer Just About The President
Oh ok Jerry....I'm sure they're terrified.
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (iTXRQ)
What you don't trust the GOP to have your back armed with a blade like Trump is doing with the Senate?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (Hcfsr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (ptqGC)
employment. On the plus side, you usually have to pay extra for that
kind of action.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 11:45 AM (NWiLs)
The Horde could help by writing you letters of recommendation. What could go wrong?
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)
"You see a tortoise..."
"Huh? What does this have to do with impeachment?"
"I'm just checking to see if you're a human. Please answer the question."
Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (qXNVo)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (PqW03)
Any Republican Senator who wants to slap Schiff around.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (ug/9A)
Posted by: Baldy at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (OLCH5)
THIS
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: cfo mom at January 15, 2020 11:50 AM (RfzVr)
I think I would have to kill myself if that happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (Kpl3J)
I expect the same thing to happen here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)
The process is the punishment.
The state has infinite resources, they can come back at Exxon any time. And they will.
Exxon spents tens of millions if not over $100M in its defense.
Of nothing.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (9VeU0)
Posted by: Joe Mama
Given the precedent the Dems used in the House, no.
One of their witnesses then became a Dem counsel and asked questions of other witnesses.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 11:35 AM (BJAwB)
Everyone seems to be laboring under the delusion that there are rules in play here.
Calvinball, people. This is Calvinball, all the way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)
Short answer based on >current< Senate Calvinball rules, is Yes. However, questions must be submitted in writing (during trial, I don't know about in any prelim Senate Cmte proceedings), and any Senator may object to the question, requiring an immediate, no-debate vote on allowing or dismissing the question; a simple majority rules.
Note: The Chief Justice gets to rule first on all such questions and everything else, but his rulings on anything can be challenged by any Senator and over-turned by a simple majority. The Senate didn't and won't give any real power to Roberts.
Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 11:43 AM (Ejm1K)
Trump is a 1965 AR spider, mechanically FI beauty
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (rpxSz)
I go with Stealth Bomber
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (vEIlU)
I suspect the Dems are hoping that they can get some control by getting a few Repubs to vote with the Dems.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (4a9Vv)
Oh, ok.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (Boy/L)
prayers up for all on the list, all thinking about asking to be on the list, and all who don't think their problem is big enough to be considered. we all need a prayer now and again, and we're the perfect one's to pray for each other. it worked for me, it can work for you too.
and now for the less serious content...
all the "who dat's", yes, i would like to tell them of the waters of Mau'dib's home world...
Posted by: SturmToddler at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
Brilliant Legal Plan, I point to the big Environmental Lawsuit that the
New York State's Attorney General brought against Exxon, the one that
has now failed completely.
New York State spent years preparing this, sued for $1.6 Billion
dollars, tried to make Exxon settle, said that they would Destroy!
Exxon in court - and then they took it to court.
At the end of the trial, the Judge (and not a conservative judge,
either!) tossed the ENTIRE case out, because he ruled that, after all
these years of build up, the State had not been able to present ONE
SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that would back up any of their claims.
I expect the same thing to happen here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 11:53 AM
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Yep and he also said that after a decade the State of NY could not produce one single person who had been harmed by global warming.
No harm, no standing and that is how case law gets made. NY AG fvcked up big time.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Sooner at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (EJ9Fr)
Nadless is a Yugo.
Or maybe a Wego. That's the minivan version because bigger to accommodate his gigantic head and ass, the two of which are interchangeable mostly because we can't tell where one ends and the other one starts.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (HaL55)
It actually took me awhile to find some hijab-less Iranian hotties good enough to post. I'm thinking the actresses might lose their jobs if they're caught brazenly displaying their hair.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (64Y16)
the barstools are on fire
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (CLteG)
This is the perfect case for Trump's 3rd term.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (bWBdM)
The vulnerable dims must feel like they are playing Ruskie roulette with 6 in the revolver
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (rpxSz)
Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (X+a7J)
Posted by: Tom Servo
It's only hard because we follow the law and they don't.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (bd376)
Posted by: Roland THTG at January 15, 2020 11:54 AM (88+cf)
I posted this compilation video the other day. The end is great!
Arab debates:
https://tinyurl.com/wfe9e5l
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (bWBdM)
Afghan women in Kabul in the 70s:
https://tinyurl.com/raf7dy5
Posted by: Jane D'oh
I wonder what they look like today. I wonder if they're still alive.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (aKsyK)
Exxon spents tens of millions if not over $100M in its defense.
Of nothing.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (9VeU0)
--
It's weird, but I recently read that the feds have something like a 90%+ plea bargain rate in cases against individuals.
I wonder if it's related?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (JLaUz)
the barstools are on fire
Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (CLteG)
the goldfish are being coy
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (rpxSz)
Short answer based on >current< Senate Calvinball rules, is Yes, Schiff CAN be asked questions by any Senator during the trial. I have no idea what power the Senate has to compel him to answer.
Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (AMIL/)
'The Senate Is On Trial': Jerry Nadler Says The Impeachment Is No Longer Just About The President
Oh ok Jerry....I'm sure they're terrified.
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (cF8AT)
McConnell seems to be enjoying this. He knows the Senate rules probably more than anyone.
It would be funny if he took that piece of new "evidence," the napkin with scribbles and no date on it, and wipe his mouth with it after lunch.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (vEIlU)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at January 15, 2020 11:57 AM (EJ9Fr)
So what was Noem sayin'?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (Ct55T)
Posted by: Mayor Pete at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (IDjUx)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (bWBdM)
are you trying to stick it to the bundle ??
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (rpxSz)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 11:58 AM (bd376)
And because they control most of the information sources.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (J+mig)
435 I bet a lot of artists had unstable personalities, and back then there wasn't any concept of mental health.
They poured their passion and online obsession into art.
Van Gogh was a famous example, but Michaelangelo - anyone who spent all.those years painting a ceiling had to have been a bit crazy.
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 15, 2020 11:13 AM (G546f)
Our own grammie winger once commented about doing really good art in her younger days when she was, in her words, certifiable. Then after she got help and medication, her desire to do art went away.
Someone asked her if she missed not being an artist and she replied, heavens no, I'd rather be sane.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 11:34 AM (64Y16)
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My art is meh. I'll agree with your bet. I wanted to have the mindset of Bob Ross and thought maybe art made the man. Nope, I'm still an asshole but I can turn out a landscape that most people can't. Yet at the same time, I find major flaws with anything I've every done. I've gotten up at 2 AM to stare at a painting for 15 minutes, lay down a half inch brush stroke and then go back to bed.
I think Ross was the exception to the certifiable rule. I can't imagine though I try going through life with a Bob Ross mindset. He made Mr. Rogers look like a hit man.
Posted by: Groundhog at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (VYwSh)
Posted by: x at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (nFwvY)
'The Senate Is On Trial': Jerry Nadler Says The Impeachment Is No Longer Just About The President
This is how nazis talk.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (8FcHK)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (vEIlU)
LOL!
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (xfb67)
The 1st 4 don't count, even though he rocked a lot done.
Look what he's accomplished with Washington conspiring against him. If he's unimpeded in his 2nd term, there might not be anything left to do!
Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2020 12:00 PM (dBiBP)
Expecting Dems to obey rules/laws is how we got this mess in the first place.
Posted by: davidt at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 11:41 AM (HaL55)
Honestly, on a pretty Persian girl the hijab can make them more interesting by highlighting the eyes and giving a bit of mystery.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (ug/9A)
IOW, he's the perfect Democrat.
#WASTF mostly because we allow pieces of shit like him to attain high office. In a sane world, he'd be cleaning the stalls of the ladies room at the airport for a living.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Sooner at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 12:01 PM (e284m)
BREAKING: #Expose2020 - PART II: Sanders 2020 Organizer "There Are Things That Are More Important Than the Rule of Law in the USA"; Declares His Views Are Shared by Many Others Within the Campaign; Secret Service Notified Over POTUS Assassination Concern
https://tinyurl.com/t7hxlw4
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (Boy/L)
the cohoes are loxy
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (rpxSz)
This is how nazis talk.
It's not often that you see an entire political party go insane. Labour did in Britain in the 80s, but this is just spittle-flecked ranting.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (Boy/L)
Of nothing.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (9VeU0)
Just to keep things in perspective (and a lesson to Attorney Generals; don't pick on those who are even bigger than you!) Exxon has about $670 Million in Revenue PER DAY; in 2018 they earned a profit of about $56 Million PER DAY.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (M9ntN)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at January 15, 2020 11:36 AM (aW5/6)
I dunno. He looks a lot like Andy Serkis to me.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 15, 2020 11:29 AM (xfb67)
Sounds like the sort of thing you'd order for a 12 step program for prostitutes...
Posted by: SturmToddler at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (8D42x)
BREAKING: #Expose2020 - PART II: Sanders 2020 Organizer "There Are Things That Are More Important Than the Rule of Law in the USA"; Declares His Views Are Shared by Many Others Within the Campaign; Secret Service Notified Over POTUS Assassination Concern
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Mostly false! MOSTLY FALSE!!!
Posted by: Snopes at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (JLaUz)
Oh, ok.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (Boy/L)
++++++++++
Jerry, your party controls just over half of one half of one branch.
Piss off.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (ug/9A)
humiliated and destroyed on national television in revenge for the crap
he has put her through.
------------
Maybe because it's his operation?
He's the one who was working with Vindman and Ciaramello on filing thw whistleblower report and so on. Didn;t one of them work on his staff a while ago - it's all a bit fuzzy, but one thing's been clear: Schiff has been directing this from the beginning.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (8FcHK)
https://tinyurl.com/raf7dy5
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (ptqGC)
So what is more destructive, progressivism or jihadistic Islam?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (64Y16)
Somebody is going to be surprised when the right cross hits them in the head. Repeatedly.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Joe Mama
Would he be allowed to ask himself questions?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2020 11:32 AM (aKsyK)
why not? they basically did that in the house...
Posted by: SturmToddler at January 15, 2020 12:04 PM (8D42x)
BREAKING: #Expose2020 - PART II: Sanders 2020 Organizer "There Are Things That Are More Important Than the Rule of Law in the USA"; Declares His Views Are Shared by Many Others Within the Campaign; Secret Service Notified Over POTUS Assassination Concern
https://tinyurl.com/t7hxlw4
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (cF8AT)
Let's hope there is a Part III!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 12:04 PM (vEIlU)
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at January 15, 2020 12:04 PM (EJ9Fr)
Everyone is on trial!
Who talks like that??
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (8FcHK)
Robespierre wannabes?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 15, 2020 12:04 PM (64Y16)
I would call the 6 day/wk session the second the managers arrive just to fuck with those Senators. That is among the many reasons I am not the Senate Majority Leader.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 12:04 PM (9VeU0)
That's an eight percent profit. Not huge.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 12:05 PM (Boy/L)
I agree because a homogeneous society can use informal sanctions to keep misbehavior within boundaries because most everyone agrees to the ground rules for society. This knowledge means that formal laws are unnecessary as people agree on what is good, beautiful, etc. and what is bad. This in turn promotes high trust.
Diverse societies require formal laws and arbitration between groups as informal societal sanctions do not work when groups decide that these affect the group's interest negatively. Thus, formal rules are necessary.
Example is how school discipline has become formalized bureaucratic punishment now when in the 1950's and 1960's, it was decentralized to the classroom teacher and principal and informal parent/social sanctions at home.
Posted by: whig at January 15, 2020 12:05 PM (EUDB2)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 15, 2020 12:05 PM (e284m)
BREAKING: #Expose2020 - PART II: Sanders 2020 Organizer "There Are Things That Are More Important Than the Rule of Law in the USA"; Declares His Views Are Shared by Many Others Within the Campaign; Secret Service Notified Over POTUS Assassination Concern
https://tinyurl.com/t7hxlw4
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (cF8AT)
Now think about decades of cradle to grave brainwashing and programming by the education, media, and social media. And infinity immigration since 1965.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 12:05 PM (Hcfsr)
Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2020 11:33 AM (mpXpK)
holy shit a Vic sighting.
welcome back man, hope things are well.
*of course it's entirely probable that you've been back and I've just missed it...*
Posted by: SturmToddler at January 15, 2020 12:05 PM (8D42x)
enough to post. I'm thinking the actresses might lose their jobs if
they're caught brazenly displaying their hair.
And not one word about the oppression of teh wimminz from any feministas. You gotta luv their consistency of principle.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2020 11:59 AM (vEIlU)
What amuses me about this 'new' evidence is that it proves absolutely nothing having to do with impeachment. Neither Parnas nor Guiliani work for the government. Neither of them could officially offer anything to Zelensky. Trump is allowed (as a candidate) to dig up dirt on his opponents. And none of this crap would be admissable in a trial.
As far as tracking Yovanovitch goes, she was off the reservation on US policy and meeting with people she shouldn't have. Tracking her sorry ass was prudent.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (OakTv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (ug/9A)
Posted by: SMOD at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Qf83p)
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: SMOD at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (Qf83p)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 15, 2020 12:06 PM (WEBkv)
Of nothing.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 11:56 AM (9VeU0)
Just to keep things in perspective (and a lesson to Attorney Generals; don't pick on those who are even bigger than you!) Exxon has about $670 Million in Revenue PER DAY; in 2018 they earned a profit of about $56 Million PER DAY.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 12:02 PM (Kpl3J)
Oh, no problem. Barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 12:07 PM (9VeU0)
https://tinyurl.com/raf7dy5
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 11:55 AM (ptqGC)
So what is more destructive, progressivism or jihadistic Islam?
Posted by: OregonMuse
Yes.
Embrace the power of "and".
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 12:07 PM (bd376)
Posted by: REDACTED at January 15, 2020 12:08 PM (rpxSz)
Everyone is on trial!
Who talks like that??
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 12:03 PM (8FcHK)
++++++++++++
People who turn American legal philosophy on its ear.
How it should work: A crime is investigated, leading to suspects. If strong enough, the suspect is prosecuted successfully and punished.
How it works now: A person is investigated, leading to crimes. If severe or important enough, the person is prosecuted and punished.
It's an evil inversion. We investigate *crimes* in common law - crimes that are demonstrated to have occurred. Evidence leads to people.
But in Calvinball world, they invert it and go looking for evidence of crimes for people they don't like.
It's evil.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 12:09 PM (I2dne)
punishment now when in the 1950's and 1960's, it was decentralized to
the classroom teacher and principal and informal parent/social sanctions
at home.
And doesn't even get close to following any American legal principles. When a student gets physically attacked, the student who defends himself is also punished. The right to self-defense is not recognized by the school system for reasons that have not ever been 'splained.
Again, why are we tolerating this?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #DemocratsSuck at January 15, 2020 12:09 PM (HaL55)
https://tinyurl.com/raf7dy5
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020
*
*
Can't say any of 'em are my type, but they look and dress a *lot* like girls at my university in the early '70s. Certainly better than in hoods and robes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 15, 2020 12:11 PM (Ejm1K)
Posted by: DR.WTF at January 15, 2020 12:11 PM (aS1PU)
Avenatti is in deep shit today.
I may never stop laughing.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 15, 2020 12:12 PM (fp3O8)
Posted by: squirrelly dan
I'm just saying that with the way things are today, these people are about to open a big shipping container-sized box of crazy and there's no telling what might come out of it
if I were the Dem side I would do whatever I could to introduce as much chaos into the exercise as possible
I kind of think they'll try
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 12:12 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: t-bird𝔱-𝔟𝔦𝔯𝔡 at January 15, 2020 12:14 PM (1+J19)
The innocent explanation is that in situations with low trust levels between groups, formal procedures must be instituted to protect each party's interest. Think divorce court and child custody cases here.
The not-so-innocent explanation is that the vibrancy establishment was deliberate so as to give the state and its agents greater power to adjudicate grievances caused by friction between societal groups.
When social sanctions fail, formal structures will be set up and social sanctions will fail in diverse low trust environments as no one agrees upon the game's rules. Thus, the state gains power while people lose liberty due to people preferring to rightfully avoid open conflict if possible.
Posted by: whig at January 15, 2020 12:14 PM (EUDB2)
I expect a few stalwart severe conservatives in the GOP wing of the Uni-Party will contribute to the Senatorial chaos as they demonstrate their principles!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at January 15, 2020 12:15 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Allie at January 15, 2020 12:21 PM (dTTzg)
The Secret Service? The assholes who employ a guy who shot a dog and lied about it being off-leash? They would help any Bern Out who tried to kill Trump.
And that Bernie hasn't already been introduced to the business end of a Louisville Slugger shows you that this country is neither serious about the rule of law nor gives a shit whether it lives or dies.
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