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Gun Thread: And So It Begins [Weasel]
Virginia Motto: Sic Semper Tyrannis
In anticipation of the assault on our right to keep and bear arms by the radical left, about eight weeks ago a remarkable grassroots phenomenon began to spread across the Commonwealth in the form of individual localities declaring themselves 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries. This was not a campaign conceived and executed by the marketing department of Big Gun, but rather an organic expression of the citizen's commitment to their Bill of Rights, and a repudiation of almost certain overreach by the government. As I write this, 91 counties and a total of 34 independent cities and towns have agreed with the voters, sending an unambiguous message to Richmond. Enough is enough.
Over the last few days, radical leftist politicians in Virginia have filed a comprehensive array of proposed gun control legislation which should make all but the most committed anti-gun tyrant cringe. Think I'm exaggerating? Let's have a look. The links will take you to the legislative language.- S.B. 12 - Firearm transfers; criminal history record information checks
- S.B. 16 - Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms and certain firearm magazines
- S.B. 22 - Purchase of handguns; limitation on handgun purchases
- S.B. 35 - Control of firearms by localities; permitted events
- S.B. 69 - Purchase of handguns; limitation on handgun purchases
- S.B. 70 - Firearm transfers; criminal history record information checks
- S.B. 240 - Firearms; removal from persons posing substantial risk
- S.B. 450 - Control of firearms; chambers of local governing bodies
- S.B. 505 - Control of firearms by localities; local government buildings
- S.B. 543 - Firearms shows; mandatory background check
- S.B. 615 - Control of firearms by localities; local government buildings and parks
On January 13th and 20th, the National Rifle Association and the Virginia Citizens Defense League are holding their respective Lobby Days in Richmond. A Lobby Day is traditionally a day when lobbyists meet with lawmakers to convince them to support a particular point of view. The NRA was a little late to the game, but as many as 20,000 people are expected in Richmond on the 20th for the VCDL event. Just last Friday, the Democrats began changing long-standing rules and have designated the Virginia Capitol and many of the surrounding buildings as "Gun Free Zones." It is entirely possible they will follow-up just before these planned events and declare the capitol grounds as "gun free" in order to create last minute confusion on the issue among attendees. Stay informed. As I mentioned before, these are Lobby Days. They are not Be a Badass or Start Some Shit Days. I will absolutely guarantee you that extremists on the left are going to be there in number to start trouble and make the pro-gun side look like the aggressor in any confrontation. One of my best friends and my main shooting buddy made a career as a network cameraman, and has covered countless rallies, demonstrations, civil disturbances and outright wars all over the world. Time after time he has seen first hand the tactics of the left, who will stop at nothing to cause you to lose your cool. Want to be on the evening news in a video edited to make you look like a aggressive gun-toting redneck? That can and will happen. If you are confronted, walk away. You will do more damage to the cause and give the left just what it wants if you get into as much as a shouting match. Think the media will cover any of this in a fair and unbiased manner? Think again.
These events have the potential to go sideways in a hurry so keep your wits about you, do be safe, and do not be the star in a shitshow. This is simply about showing numbers. All eyes are on Virginia, which is why it is critical this not devolve into a riot. Believe me when I say the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary movement has the attention of the legislature, and tens of thousands of people in Richmond will be very difficult to ignore. The time for vigorous protest will come later. In the meantime, for those of you in Virginia, let your local government officials know you are engaged and serious about the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary declarations. Let them know you expect them to follow through on their commitments, and that you are available to help in any way possible. Whatever happens in Richmond during the upcoming Lobby Days, and even later, will not be the end of the matter. Regardless of which laws are eventually passed, and some or all of these will be, it is not over. The unconstitutional measures being considered, if passed into law, will be challenged in court - a process likely to take years. Keep in mind FFL's and other businesses will have to immediately comply with any new laws and restrictions as they become effective later this year, so think long term and plan accordingly.
I have been encouraging you all to buy ammo for damn near forever, and one of the suppliers I like is SG Ammo, a family owned and operated business in Stillwater. Oklahoma. Their prices are good, and their service is great with orders filled and shipped quickly. I have never had a problem with an order, so I have never had to contact their customer service, which I understand is excellent. The owner has published an Ammo Market Outlook which is worth a look [h/t redc1c4].
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No Gun Thread would be complete without some actual gun stuff, and our pal mazzman has sent in just the thing. Looks like FUN!
Here is recent video I shot and edited for SureFire on the SureFire 2019 World Multigun Championships. This took place this past October in Boulder City outside of Las Vegas. I compressed 4-days of footage into 3:30 and it’s a lot of fun. Play it LOUD!
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:00 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:02 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:05 PM (87gB3)
Good.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at January 12, 2020 07:05 PM (AiDml)
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (87gB3)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at January 12, 2020 07:05 PM (AiDml)
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Very good.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (MVjcR)
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 07:07 PM (+5UIx)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:07 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 07:07 PM (zHXTb)
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (87gB3)
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Thanks, Emmie. I really hope this doesn't turn into a mess.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (ZfBVE)
In other news...
Because of Kansas City
Jewells45 needs to strip
She's a crazy little woman and
Her hubby doesn't give a flip
Posted by: Vendette at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (pXNaM)
In other news...
Because of Kansas City
Jewells45 needs to strip
She's a crazy little woman and
Her hubby doesn't give a flip
Posted by: Vendette at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (pXNaM)
*turns on livestream*
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: PabloD at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (vlwIa)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (NWiLs)
Yeah, two other big ones are:
- Near total ban on indoor ranges
- Near total ban on outdoor ranges, *and* on shooting outdoors on private property.
People aren't going to abide by the "show up and don't look like a mad max extra" thing; they're pissed, and what the Dems are doing in VA is a deliberate attempt to push people into insurrection.
Nobody expects coverage to be fair, and not many people care because this isn't about optics anymore.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: spypeach at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (7R8A2)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (JUOKG)
On another note, shot IDPA for the first time in many months, yay!
Shockingly enough, I did pretty well shooting the abbreviated qualifier. Still doesn't mean I moved up a classification, but, I managed to keep my shots strings inside the "1 down" zone with over half my shots inside the "0" down ring..while making the final shot, which was a head shot.
The shooting distance for the qualifier was maybe 10 yards.
Then, to top things off, there was a stage that was a "Mozambique" drill. Started with 6 rounds in the magazine, two to the body, reload, head shots on the initial three targets, then shoot the rest of the stage.
Had a great time, though, as usual, there were a couple of stages that were on the humbling side.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: pep at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (Tnijr)
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I had some conflicting information whether those were still on the table, hence the "may have missed some"
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:14 PM (MVjcR)
Yeah Jewels is gonna strip!
Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (Tnijr)
*plays raunchy music*
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:14 PM (NWiLs)
max extra" thing; they're pissed, and what the Dems are doing in VA is a
deliberate attempt to push people into insurrection.
Of course if there were a million law abiding gun owning demonstrators acting peacefully and not scaring anyone, the media WILL find that one person who fulfills their vision of a "gun nut" and that is what they will show 24/7.
We just have to make sure to push back and show as best we can we ARE your average American.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (ZfBVE)
I was worried about Jewells45's heart after the first quarter. Lets hold off on the pole action until the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.
Because I do think her husband cares.
Maybe pudding over Victory Breasts for now.
{{{Jewells45}}}! And yes I mentioned this to my wife. She is not a Chiefs fan. So no.
Question. If we ask for that are we still a smart military and family friendly blog?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (C1Lsn)
Posted by: Vic at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:16 PM (ZfBVE)
That Surefire YT clip was frickin beautiful!
No range time yet. Difficulties I am trying to sort through first...BUT, I may just hit the range the beginning of next month. We shall see.
RIP Prof. Neil Peart (12 Sep 1952-7 Jan 2020)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:16 PM (XZgzl)
1 work for the govt
2 do business with the govt
3 take handouts from the govt
so they all vote D, and do so in sufficient numbers to effectively outvote the rest of the state
it won't get better for downstate and rural Virginians
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 07:16 PM (iTXRQ)
Now for a little New Year range time!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (2lndx)
Dipped under 10K of ammo of all types in the abode this week. So, as you said Weasel, time to stock up.
In other news, have taken to wearing my new AIWB holster all the time now, even in the house. It's like I don't even feel it anymore. I do have to upgrade my wardrobe a bit but it's time anyway.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (Y4EXg)
Every gun owner should get out and vote and vote for anyone not democrat. Time to stop fucking around.
This week is Hi-Power week. I took the .40 S&W out and she ran fine. Accurate and no issues. A little snappy but easy to shoot and nice fit in the hand. A snap to disassemble, clean and re-assemble, which is always a plus.
I will compare it to the 9 mm Hi Power this week and may the better caliber win.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (Z+IKu)
Many of us in the community have known this fellow and his family for decades, know they are upstanding and contributing members of the community, and have no reason to doubt his motives. However, I have observed some autistic or Asberger-y tendencies in him and at least one of his brothers. I think this explains his fixation on the security team.
Just wondering if anyone here knows if being "on the spectrum" would necessarily make this guy a bad bet for the team or if there's a constructive way to successfully harness his enthusiasm and interest.
To be clear, I do not know if my observations are correct, and I think even if he is on the spectrum, I don't think he knows it.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (87gB3)
Matt Bracken has warned that he thinks a false flag operation is a very real possibility."
That's the nasty part about this push; if people do nothing, they lose. If they do... basically anything not half-assed, it can be twisted into whatever the Dems need or want.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:14 PM (MVjcR)
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I've seen some stuff about these laws, with people thinking that, well, the laws may not do this, and may not do that...blah blah blah.
No.
Every single one of the laws under consideration in VA, when passed, will be interpreted in the broadest way possible. There will be no "benefit of a doubt" because these people mean to show us peasants who's in charge.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (XzVUd)
2 do business with the govt
3 take handouts from the govt
D) Write Gun Threads
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: PabloD at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (vlwIa)
The Oregon legislative session starts Feb. 2 and only runs for a month because on even ending years it's a short session.
I've been stocking ammo like crazy. Kinda pissed because the AR I ordered in early October hasn't come in yet. Not here by end of the week I'll go to another supplier.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (Mki/r)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (NWiLs)
Even more depressing is that voters ask for it. (Yeah, I know, the so-called political opposition didn't run candidates in many VA races, but...)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (XZgzl)
About three years ago while Sessions was getting side-lined Trump should have put him on a mission to aggressively prosecuted violations of civil rights. With crowd pleasing targeting of small town deputies harassing passers through to big (NE) city prosecutors doing same they could have established good precedent for jailing the modern day Klan wannabees. By now they could have flanked the deep state and attacked from the rear... and cut off the attempts at civil right violations that democrats have always advanced Such as in VA now.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (1g7ch)
max extra" thing; they're pissed, and what the Dems are doing in VA is a
deliberate attempt to push people into insurrection.
Of course if there were a million law abiding gun owning demonstrators acting peacefully and not scaring anyone, the media WILL find that one person who fulfills their vision of a "gun nut" and that is what they will show 24/7.
We just have to make sure to push back and show as best we can we ARE your average American.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (ZfBVE)
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The left will false flag that also.
The "crazy gun nut" will likely be astro turf.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:19 PM (WEBkv)
The questions the guy asks are darkly humorous:
Do we live in a democratic civilization? No, you don't. You elected leftists and now they will take away your rights and voice for your own good. And if little Jimmy moves the wrong way during one of those raids for firearms and gets rightfully shot, well, you cannot make a safe omelet without breaking some toddler eggs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 12, 2020 07:19 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (67XdO)
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exactly.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:19 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 12, 2020 07:20 PM (7rVsF)
Posted by: Emmie
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Don't have any professional advice to give you but clearly this fella gives you pause. Do others on the team have the same feelings or concerns as you do? If a person gives you the willies. . . .
He may not be a good fit for the team.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:22 PM (Y4EXg)
***
And make no mistake, these will be next.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2020 07:23 PM (axyOa)
I've seen serious discussions on costs and feasibility for showing up with armor. Not body armor - for which there has been a massive run in retail sales just for the 20th - but rumble-clankity-clank armor.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:23 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 12, 2020 07:24 PM (zlgJP)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:22 PM (Y4EXg)
Thanks, Tonypete. My fear is that if an emergency situation arises, his tendency to fixate on something may interfere with appropriate action.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:25 PM (87gB3)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v8)
http://bit.ly/2RbJuxC
I'm going to give one to the boy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (yQpMk)
What Tonypete said. Some Aspies function pretty well under stress, some don't. Your gut will likely tell you whether you should trust him or not...
Posted by: Bringer of Info at January 12, 2020 07:27 PM (7s3Gx)
I'm going to give one to the boy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (yQpMk)
Those are spiffy-looking!
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:27 PM (87gB3)
Posted by: Long Running Fool at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ziy0N)
On a lighter note I am happy to say that I will be going to the TXMoMe in October. Booked the flight and hotel last week.
Looking forward to meeting ya'll!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ZfBVE)
The team is not for everybody and as such I'd give a pass to whoever made me uncomfortable.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (XZgzl)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v
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I say that because I see this evolving over time, through legal channels if at all possible. Let's leave the discussion of what comes after that for another day.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v
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Reminds me of that old TEA party sign: "Doesn't Matter What This Sign Says, You'll Call it Racist Any way."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (WEBkv)
And seem like a good deal. A pair with the 11x15 rifle plates is $255 delivered. The 10lb weight seems a little high for a backpack but he rides a bike in Charlotte.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (yQpMk)
first quarter. Lets hold off on the pole action until the Chiefs win
the Super Bowl.
Because I do think her husband cares.
Maybe pudding over Victory Breasts for now.
{{{Jewells45}}}! And yes I mentioned this to my wife. She is not a Chiefs fan. So no.
Question. If we ask for that are we still a smart military and family friendly blog?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (u82oZ)
In a previous thread she promised she'd dispose of her clothes if the Chiefs won today.
Posted by: Vendette at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (pXNaM)
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:25 PM (87gB3)
I don't know how y'all run things, but if you run some drills or training scenarios see how the guy performs.
Sometimes the guy you think is a little weird is really good at what you need him to do. And if he fucks up, get him gone if he can't correct it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (Z+IKu)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (+5UIx)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (ZfBVE)
"Universal" means that EVERYBODY, whether they now own guns or might ever want to buy a gun, is "in the system" with a background that is available to gun sellers and police to be "checked". Ever take pain killers that say you shouldn't operate dangerous machinery? That's part of the "background" that goes into the records system. Ever get a speeding ticket -- operating dangerous machinery in an unsafe manner? In the system. Bad debts? Registered to vote third party? (There's a "Red" flag for you, comrade!) Live in a neighborhood with a high rate of violent crime?
Posted by: pouncer at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (L/ssi)
Posted by: Bringer of Info at January 12, 2020 07:27 PM (7s3Gx)
I've mostly seen him on stage. He and his brothers are very talented musicians. But I had noticed that he kind of avoided looking to his audience in an engaging manner. And at church, we had a conversation where he was very insistent that a particular ministry approach was the only correct one.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:32 PM (87gB3)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v
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I say that because I see this evolving over time, through legal channels if at all possible. Let's leave the discussion of what comes after that for another day.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)
Never hand the enemy a loaded gun pointed at your head. Weasel is spot-on.
Besides, I think the Left has gone so insane that they have lost a critical capability: the ability to win hearts and minds. If the Left is out to alienate as many people as possible - and I can see their tactics here and elsewhere doing such - get out of the way and let them do it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:32 PM (XZgzl)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (+5UIx)
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You'll like the Geissele trigger!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:33 PM (MVjcR)
Sometimes the guy you think is a little weird is really good at what you need him to do. And if he fucks up, get him gone if he can't correct it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (Z+IKu)
Good idea. Our security team leader has a lot of experience knowing what to look for.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:34 PM (87gB3)
On a lighter note I am happy to say that I will be going to the TXMoMe in October. Booked the flight and hotel last week.
Looking forward to meeting ya'll!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ZfBVE)
This here Texan will vouch for Scuba_Dude. He may be a Yankee, but he'll fit right in once in TX.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (XZgzl)
Posted by: Local and National Media at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (NSFCQ)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (ZfBVE)
Thanks. Missed that. Chores, etc. etc. etc.
Scuba_Dude
Jewells45 is a Kansas City 'ette. Her specality is making nice jewelry for the Horde and others. Her talent in fabrication and good customer service has allowed me to keep my wife happy.
Besides her talents, she is a tall, bendy drink of water with some awesome dance moves.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:36 PM (u82oZ)
Looking forward to meeting ya'll!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ZfBVE)
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Anyone want to tell SD how much fun he's going to have?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:36 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: squeakywheel at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (hFksC)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (XZgzl)
Hey!!! Technically I am a Floridian. A Floridian who has spent the majority of his life in New York.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)
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New York City?!?!!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:38 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (yIBke)
I regard the Horde as the best bunch of experts on the entire web. I greatly appreciate it when you are willing to share your insights and knowledge with me.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (87gB3)
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (u82oZ)
And Weasel, any idea how much ammo I should bring for my Sig (who I am going to bring with me)? :-)
Maybe a 1,000 should cover it. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (ZfBVE)
through legal channels if at all possible. Let's leave the discussion
of what comes after that for another day.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)"
If this push is the deliberate provocation that many think it is, things will evolve faster than you would like. A good example is state and local governments staffing up to browse social media and file red flag orders. This is happening now, in other states; they're being used as a tool to put the boot to people's necks.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: El Fucko at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (i7K8m)
Posted by: meese at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (jOdoW)
The 20th is MLK day. Which means we'll be appalled at these racists trying to intimidate POCs.
Soon.
Posted by: Local and National Media at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (NSFCQ)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:41 PM (1g7ch)
Nothing like having they guy who sells me my drinks also like to collect and shoot stuff.
And lots of folk here in Maryland are watching Virginia, closely.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 12, 2020 07:41 PM (tT0V4)
And Ben Had, I love my Guinness, but when in Texas I guess Shiner or Lone Star?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:41 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Chouinard at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (ua1m6)
Thanks for the cautions about Richmond. I can't attend the rallies but will be paying attention. Also, I won't be commenting about the new tyranny for my sake and Ace's. But DAMN!! It is tempting.
Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (7EjX1)
What caliber? I'll be driving in and will be bringing some toys.
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (S/rwf)
Posted by: nip at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (cpS4u)
Posted by: meese at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (jOdoW)
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Yep. That, too.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:43 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:43 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)
You sure have a funny accent for a Floridian.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:44 PM (XZgzl)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:32 PM (XZgzl)
Yeah, but its like Gay marriage, or the Russian Hoax crap.
Sure seems like we win the argument, and then loose in the Courts and with the DOJ.
I don't see ONE prominent Democrat in Jail, while I see LOTS of Prominent Trump Team guys either in Jail or under indictment, even though WE supposedly run the DOJ???
Same with gun laws. I currently can't even buy ammo here in California without going through ANOTHER background check and registering my guns, and paying the STATE for the pleasure of doing so.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:44 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:44 PM (ZCEU2)
Any opinions or experience with Diamondback?
Same for the snagless sight on the Sig 365.
Thanks!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (/UQ/R)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (ZfBVE)
SG Ammo quit shipping to CA. I hope they go under. If anybody needs
ammo it is Californians. I'm pretty sure I put one of his kids through
college.
Posted by: nip at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (cpS4u)"
Everyone quit shipping to CA, mail order ammo is banned there. Face to face retail only with background checks (about 1/4 of which have been wrongly denied since they started doing that)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (67XdO)
See: Blue state Motor voter laws for details.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 07:46 PM (EL4ni)
Reservations made, goodies lined up = I'll be bringing THE HAT that it might be awarded as a travelling trophy.
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (S/rwf)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (XZgzl)
Posted by: Syzygy at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (B3kya)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:49 PM (MVjcR)
Nah, I and others will bringing a lot, save your ammo money for the Collins Street Bakery.
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 07:49 PM (S/rwf)
Virginia must prove they are WORTHY of the 2nd Amendment.
This could be the 2nd 'shot heard round the world'.
If they prove themselves, volunteers from the other 49 will journey there knowing they are fighting not only for Virginians but for all America.
Schoolhouse Rock - "The Shot Heard Around the World"
"The British are coming! The British are coming!
Now, the ride of Paul Revere
Set the nation on its ear
And the shot at Lexington heard 'round the world
When the British fired in the early dawn
The War of Independence had begun
The die was cast, the rebel flag unfurled
And on to Concord marched the foe
To seize the arsenal there you know
Waking folks searching all around
Until our militia stopped them in their tracks
At the old North Bridge we turned them back
And chased those Redcoats back to Boston town
And the shot heard 'round the world
Was the start of the Revolution
The Minutemen were ready, on the move
Take your powder, and take your gun
Report to General Washington
Hurry men, there's not an hour to lose!
Now, at famous Bunker Hill
Even though we lost, it was quite a thrill
The rebel Colonel Prescott proved he was wise
Outnumbered and low on ammunition
As the British stormed his position
He said, "Hold your fire until you see the whites of their eyes!"
Though the next few years were rough
General Washington's men proved they were tough
Those hungry, ragged boys would not be beat
One night they crossed the Delaware
Surprised the Hessians in their lair
And at Valley Forge they just bundled up their feet!
And the shot heard 'round the world
Was the start of the Revolution
The Minutemen were ready, on the move
Take your blanket, and take your son
Report to General Washington
We've got our rights and now it's time to prove
Well, they showed such determination
That they won the admiration
Of countries across the sea like France and Spain
Who loaned the colonies ships and guns
And put the British on the run
And the Continental Army on its feet again
And though they lost some battles too
The Americans swore they'd see it through
Their raiding parties kept up, hit and run
At Yorktown the British could not retreat
Bottled up by Washington and the French Fleet
Cornwallis surrendered and finally we had won!
The winner!
Hurray!
From the shot heard 'round the world
To the end of the Revolution
The continental rabble took the day
And the father of our country
Beat the British there at Yorktown
And brought freedom to you and me and the U.S.A.!
God bless America, let freedom ring!"
Posted by: Sapwolf at January 12, 2020 07:49 PM (nuv3n)
What's the best possible outcome for a large public 2nd Amendment rally in Richmond?
People already know the potential downside -- possible ambush by a leftist mob with police protection, false-flag, media hatchet job etc.
But if everything went perfectly -- in what ways will the cause be advanced? What are legislators in the capital, or people watching at hone, going to do differently as a result?
The Left is vicious and crazy. They prove it every day. If they are bound and determined to turn this into a shit show, what's going to stop them?
This is their turf, they control the cops, they control the mainstream media, they have no principles, and they've had months to prepare.
I hope it goes well, I really do. But this adversary, in this situation...
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 12, 2020 07:50 PM (t5m5e)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (67XdO)
Yup, just found out my medical records, with my Local Doc, are now on the Google Cloud, and thus under the agreements, can be accessed by Google.
Now, under the law, you have no expectation of Privacy once it goes into third party hands.
And the Federal and State Governments can and do get access to LOTS of data through Google.
So, lets just say I had PTSD in my record (which I do not). Calif already has a Red Flag Law, and has ACTIVLY been asking the Vet Dept. about anyone who has PTSD.
Some assembly required, but the future is pretty clear UNLESS the Supreme Court steps in.
Which, they have not.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:50 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:51 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)
Make sure you bring the salsa.
New York makes the best.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:51 PM (1g7ch)
His business, his decision. I just don't like it. I kept quiet through the plugs last couple weeks. I'll resume being quiet. Since the canoe accident...
Posted by: nip at January 12, 2020 07:52 PM (cpS4u)
***
And make no mistake, these will be next.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2020 07:23 PM (axyOa)
...and a 2, and a 1, and a none.
Posted by: Lawrence Welk's Communist cousin at January 12, 2020 07:52 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (67XdO)
Running about 40% denial locally here.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:52 PM (NgKpN)
I am starting to wonder if that is typical behavior in every state.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:53 PM (1g7ch)
As far as Weasel said about stocking up on ammo I purchased 1,000 rounds of 9mm that I hope to pick up next weekend. And I will gradually buy more.You never know what NY and NYC might do.
I am even tempted the next time I take a road trip down to FLA to pick up some ammo down there.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:53 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 07:53 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:54 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (2DOZq)
My ammo order came in at the office, personal inventory levels are up from this time last year.
Posted by: IP - Still a dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (gPZ9i)
New York makes the best.
I find that hard to believe, besides I am of Irish decent, what do I know about salsa? LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (2DOZq)
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Excellent! I wish everyone would make a point to do this. Good job!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (MVjcR)
Ben Had has a heart as big as Texas. And a deep pool of friends that help her pull off an awesome party. For the rest --OPSEC.
The assembled Horde are some of the best people you would ever want to meet and talk with, drink with, learn shooting tips, shoot with, and party with.
The bacon wenches alone are worth the price of attendance. Right, Weasel
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:54 PM (Y4EXg)
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Yes, I plan to drive also and bring a few bang sticks, myself.
And if I get the .243 straightened out, I may sign up for Weasel Accuracy Unlimited, ltd.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)
It proves to people, visually, that they are not alone and that the media narrative that gun bans are universally accepted is wrong.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (2lndx)
3 Shots at the MV calc distance @ 1075 were spot on. Shots at 855, 650 and 450 were calced correctly in supersonic in the Kestrel so glad I figured that out.
Posted by: DBCooper at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (bttOm)
Our TX brethern and sisteren sticking it to the man!!
LOL
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)
The Irish invented salsa.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (u82oZ)
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I do love the Bacon Wench!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (MVjcR)
Weasel, that is something I intend to do once I have become more proficient. The people at work that know I have a firearms license I have told that if they ever want to go to the range with me I will be more than happy to take them and show them that shooting is loads of fun and SAFE if you follow the rules.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (2lndx)
Let me reiterate Weasel's caution about getting ammo now. Hell, I say it every week anyway. Ammo is a lifeline these fucking bastards will try to choke off.
Posted by: JTB
Everybody thought it was funny when Chris Rock called for a $5000 per bullet tax. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (KZzsI)
They only need to last long enough to get a stack of confiscations and convictions before they finally end up with a test case that goes all the way up.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:00 PM (t+qrx)
Some of my time will be protesting in Olympia, some time will be planning worst case scenarios.
Actually, the second part has already started.
I have zero faith that the Communists give two shits about the Constitution, be it Federal or State.
They should. For their sake.
Posted by: Lawrence Welk's Communist cousin at January 12, 2020 08:00 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (ZfBVE)
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That's great! We did a whole thread on the topic of taking non-shooters to the range last summer.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:01 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (aKsyK)
I wonder what a box of 50 9mm would go for on the black market.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:01 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Syzygy
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Except, and I'm guessing, the SureFire folk were probably 100% on-target with each round..
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:01 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:02 PM (yIBke)
America has survived through violence.
Yet generations have been carefully taught that such violence is not only regrettable, but fundamentally evil.
They don't understand that rights may be God given, but they may only be kept through violence (or at least the implicit threat of violence.)
Take away the implicit threat of violence that the 2A codifies, and ALL other rights go straight out the window. God given or not.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 12, 2020 08:02 PM (Ct55T)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (ZCEU2)
One of the retired SCOTUS Judges in an interview suggested attacking the 2nd Amendment by restricting the 1st -> outlaw the NRA and other gun lobbying groups.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (1g7ch)
IP,
The Heritage Rough Riders are decent plinking revolvers. I have two. Don't let the price influence you. And you used the word most often associated with the Rough Riders: fun.
Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (7EjX1)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/te7qeum
https://preview.tinyurl.com/tyful68
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (0ReGO)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (yQpMk)
Wait until Tuesday before driving the prices up! Since I just picked up a new caliber I'll be putting in a big order tomorrow. Going through the house right now making sure my ammo count is correct.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (2lndx)
New York makes the best.
I find that hard to believe, besides I am of Irish decent, what do I know about salsa? LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)
To quote an old Pace Picante Sauce tv ad, when it's discovered the cook on a trail-drive is using picante sauce made in New York City:
"New York City?!?! Get a rope!"
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Priapism at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (ucNdt)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Priapism at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (ucNdt)
Good comment/nick combo.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)
The Irish invented salsa.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (t+qrx)
A bunch of welsh cattlemen sitting around a campfire, reading the jar, exclaiming, "Baille atha Cliath?!?!!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (Ct55T)
Western civilization or more specifically Judeo-Christian philosophy drastically reduced Might Makes Right as a way of life. It definitely can make a come back. ( Mexico is living it now )
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (2DOZq)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:06 PM (+5UIx)
I am worried about this push by the power crazed Left to do everything possible to destroy our 2A Rights. With NY State now having a Dem majority in both chambers and a tyrannical Governor ( who probably admired Mussolini) I would not be surprised for more anti 2A legislation being shoved through.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:07 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 08:08 PM (ZXnzo)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:08 PM (ZfBVE)
I can't enter the GA building armed. But there is little point talking to my two Marxist GA legislators. They are gun control radicals.
Many dire predictions of mayhem so I'm apprehensive about going unarmed.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 12, 2020 08:10 PM (V65Kl)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)
I forgot to add in the line extolling the Horde, "And then there is me." I have to overcome my shyness to attend. The best one-word description is joyful.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (xSo9G)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)
I'm guessing it will sound a lot like Sabaton.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:13 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:13 PM (MVjcR)
This week's drill was 'single shot to the head'. The focus was on getting the natural point of aim identified and being able to put the gun on target and put a single shot through the head to put down a bad person.
After 50 rounds of full power rounds, I switched the upper back to .22 and did Mozambique drills at 5 and 7 yards.
A good day at the range. I'm looking forward to buying the Glock 44.
And I bought more ammo this week.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
I've heard of introverted but you just took the cake.
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (S/rwf)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:13 PM (yIBke
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No shit. Highlight of the year.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 08:08 PM (ZXnzo
Sounds interesting! Got a link, please?
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 08:15 PM (87gB3)
A good day at the range. I'm looking forward to buying the Glock 44.
And I bought more ammo this week.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
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Good man. Keep it up!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)
I'm guessing it will sound a lot like Sabaton.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (NWiLs)
Oh please, oh please, oh please....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 08:17 PM (87gB3)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (yIBke)
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Surely they won't all want to eat!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:19 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:20 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:20 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
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I had an issue with getting the 1911 to point properly, but, that's been straightened out.
For whatever reason, I was letting the front sight ride a bit high with the Kimber, though I was doing just fine with my Sig.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:21 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (C1Lsn)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)
I'm guessing it will sound a lot like Sabaton.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (NWiLs)
Oh please, oh please, oh please....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (d1uFV)
More like Enter Sandman.
With the bass very loud.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
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I had an issue with getting the 1911 to point properly, but, that's been straightened out.
For whatever reason, I was letting the front sight ride a bit high with the Kimber, though I was doing just fine with my Sig.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:21 PM (WEBkv)
I haven't found 1911's to be very 'point-able' for me, for whatever reason. But that single action trigger covers a wide variety of sins.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)
Two questions for everyone tonite:
What are the dates of the TxMoMe?
Looking for recommendations/suggestions for carrying while driving, either on-person or in the vehicle. I just got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and there are lots of concealed or semi-concealed placement options. Guns: Either a 5-round, 3-inch barrel .357 revolver, or a Sig P229, or a Sig P320 compact. (And maybe all!) Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (yIBke)
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I would only trust you and your staff to do it!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (MVjcR)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (+5UIx)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:20 PM (ZfBVE)
Last year was the first time I'd been on one.
It's a lot like a lawn, only bigger.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (t+qrx)
Guy at work and I start talking about the gun laws (it was up on my screen) and I find out he is gun friendly. And he just built an AR15 pistol. And he decided to do .300 Blackout instead so now he has an extra pistol upper in 5.56. Do I want it? Like for free. Umm, YES. I WANT IT. And because guys have a code of honor, can't take something of real value totally free, I purchased some packaged adult beverages, not nearly the value of a complete upper but now I don't feel guilty.
So now I have to procure a pistol lower. PSA has them very cheap, and turns out a very close gunstore is one of two preferred vendors for PSA, so I can just select that on checkout. This is good news.
Since I was in that gunstore to ask about their transfer policies, I picked up 5 boxes of 9. Because I can't get it at Walmart anymore.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (ZfRYq)
They should. For their sake.
Posted by: Lawrence Welk's Communist cousin at January 12, 2020 08:00 PM (EL4ni)
The Dems have gone full communist now. They don't even try to hide it any more. They are out and proud commies and the worst thing is how many mental defectives support that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (j0/GV)
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (AMIL/)
With the bass very loud.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (EL4ni)
I thought we'd decided it was "Red Rubber Ball".
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:24 PM (t+qrx)
Diamondback?
Snagless sight on Sig 365?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:25 PM (/UQ/R)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:25 PM (yIBke)
Looking for recommendations/suggestions for carrying while driving, either on-person or in the vehicle. I just got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and there are lots of concealed or semi-concealed placement options. Guns: Either a 5-round, 3-inch barrel .357 revolver, or a Sig P229, or a Sig P320 compact. (And maybe all!) Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)
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I have a sturdy zippered bag that I think started out as a fanny pack but which also has a shoulder strap. I can fit three handguns and ammo in that, and it rides on the passenger seat when I go back and forth to the farm,
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)
I drive a Wrangler and the space between the passenger seat and the center console is a perfect fit for my Glock 19 and Uncle Mike inside the pants holster. Sits up perfectly for easy access.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)
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For me, it was a matter of identifying then correcting the problem.
It was a bad habit I'd developed that needed to be changed.
It happens.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (yIBke)
It's a lot like a lawn, only bigger.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (t+qrx)
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With cows.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)
For a 'car gun' you can go a little larger than for concealed carry. A magnum revolver isn't a bad choice or a big .45 (the latter is my car gun).
FX 45
Glock 20 or 21
XD45
If you want to go 9mm, the SIG P320 is reliable, though mine is a full size. The 226 or the AREX Zero One also makes a good car gun.
I'd only go with the compact models if storage is a problem or if you would use the same pistol for concealed carry as well as a car gun.
Just my $.02
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:27 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:27 PM (xSo9G)
That's pretty much the truth of the matter.
The commies are only trying this because they believe they will survive the attempt. Pretty much the same way no one believes the US will ever use nukes on our enemies again.
Posted by: Methos at January 12, 2020 08:28 PM (kOpft)
Thank you for the info and recommendations, sir!
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:28 PM (AMIL/)
You and Mr. Bassman were grace notes on your way through my area. I was so happy to meet you.
Looking forward to more fun.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 08:28 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: JTB
Ok; that's the 2nd time I've heard you cuss.
Have you been drinkin' outta Kallisto's jug ?
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)
Weasel, that's called a purse. Or a man bag.
But don't worry, I have one, too. LL Bean, to go along with my Earth Shoes.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (Ukac2)
Diamondback?
Snagless sight on Sig 365?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:25 PM (/UQ/R)
I would say 'no' in the Diamondback
Snagless SIG 365 has mixed reviews, it does not seem to be an improvement over the normal or compact P320.
For small pistols, look at SIG 365 or Springfield Armory Hellcat, just put a few boxes of ammo through to make sure you didn't get a lemon.
or if money is a problem, go with the Taurus G2C. Seriously. Great pistol for $200.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)
Oh yeah.
Cows with no self-preservation instinct, should one decide to go trap shooting with Helena Handbasket.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (2DOZq)
Weasel, that's called a purse. Or a man bag.
But don't worry, I have one, too. LL Bean, to go along with my Earth Shoes.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (Ukac2)
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Yep! I like to accessorize nicely!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (C1Lsn)
So with a mil-spec M-4 stock, how short a barrel can we go and still have a std rifle? (by federal stds)
How long a barrel can we go and still have a pistol?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (1g7ch)
Dick Saslaw, Virginia State Senator and author of pending gun confiscation legislation...
Eileen Filler-Corn, Virginia State Speaker and notorious gun-control extremist.
Plus a lot of Soros monies in the last VA electoral campaign....
Yup, the usual bed fouling, self-hating schümers with schiff for brain.
It won't end well. Never has.
Posted by: wontsubmit at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (122Gu)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)
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Depending on where you live, it isn't a bad idea to carry a rifle to accompany the pistol, because, sometimes a pistol isn't going to get the job done.
Though I don't do this, due to where I live, I have pockets behind the seats in my truck that would be an ideal place to stash a pistol that would be ready to hand.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 08:33 PM (Aj7Zq)
How long a barrel can we go and still have a pistol?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (1g7ch)
It depends on what it started life as, too.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:33 PM (t+qrx)
How long a barrel can we go and still have a pistol?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (1g7ch)
I think 16" is min barrel length. Some mfgs get a little sneaky with shorter barrels + flash hider. Honestly, go with the longest barrel you can shoot well. 5.56 really loves longer barrel lengths.
For pistols, no upper limit that I know of. It can't have a 'stock' or a fore-end since it has to be shootable with one hand to be a 'pistol'.
I do have an AR pistol, without a real stock but a padded buffer tube for a cheekrest. With a red dot, it's pretty easy to use! But I mostly have it because people don't want me to.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (d1uFV)
Lobby days. sra blaster and I are going on the 20th. Any NoVa morons interested in carpooling see if you can raise me here. Right now, we have room for 2 pax.
As to the showing up with guns at the Lobby Day, the General Assembly passed and Governor Blackface has already signed a law making the capitol area a gun-free zone. So carrying, concealed or open, in those areas (the Capitol building and some other office buildings nearby including the legislative office building and I think the grounds) is a felony. So there's that.
The laws being passed are straight up harassment for gun owners. This is NOT about safety. Like the gunfree zone at the capitol - they passed that first specifically because of the lobby days.
Also, one not listed in Weasel's list above is a prohibition on indoor gun ranges in buildings where there are more than 50 employees (when the employees are less than 90% law enforcement officers). Heard the proponent of the law saying that "people should not get used to carry guns and ammunition into buildings where people work." (eerie foreshadowing music on concealed carry)
The only indoor range in the state that this would affect is the range at NRA HQ (where I go to shoot). A place I am pretty sure people are used to carrying guns into and out of. But I digress. This law is narrowly written to impact the NRA.
These people are out to rub our faces in it. And they don't care that the masks are off - the masks are off.
They do not fear reprisal at the ballot box, either.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (UUkQp)
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Howdy Amigo! Yep. Need to keep my options open!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (MVjcR)
Ben Had has a heart as big as Texas. And a deep pool of friends that help her pull off an awesome party. For the rest --OPSEC.
The assembled Horde are some of the best people you would ever want to meet and talk with, drink with, learn shooting tips, shoot with, and party with.
The bacon wenches alone are worth the price of attendance. Right, Weasel
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (u82oZ)
Let me assure you, oh canine of sodium chloride (and all others), I'll be bringing my modest collection with me as well.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (XZgzl)
It seems that the Left has learned its lesson quite well.
I count 11 separate bills. This means that, even if 1 of them is gutted or found unconstitutional, the other 10 are completely untouched ... and untouchable. A completely new suit must be filed, and that requires someone with standing, which requires ...
But, since all 11 will be passed by the same clown posse, can intent and/or conspiracy be argued in the first or any subsequent suit to add the remaining laws to the current suit?
And, while we're at it, can/why haven't any of the clowns who pass these laws be charged in Federal court for subverting/conspiracy to deny one or more the plaintiff's constitutional rights? I prefer "all" to "any", but one should get things started.
The state clowns may be protected from State prosecution, but not Federal prosecution.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know.
Posted by: Arbalest at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (C1Lsn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (/UQ/R)
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:33 PM (t+qrx)
Life has yet to begin (stripped lowers).
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (1g7ch)
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I left a couple out because it wasn't clear if they were still on the table, hence the qualifier after the list.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (MVjcR)
Small showing for Bloomberg rally with Judge Judy despite campaign's big spending
"Unlike everyone else in this race, I think what's
important is beating Donald Trump," Bloomberg told the sparse crowd of
fewer than 50 people in San Antonio.
$200 million spent and he's getting smaller crowds than would watch Michael Moore sumo wrestle
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (j0/GV)
Though I don't do this, due to where I live, I have pockets behind the seats in my truck that would be an ideal place to stash a pistol that would be ready to hand.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (WEBkv)
Thanks for the advice. I have one of those Mossberg BATF-legal "shorty" pump 12-ga shotguns that I'm thinking of stowing someplace. Not top on my list of projects yet.
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:37 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (d1uFV)
26" OAL is also the lower limit for a rifle before it becomes... something else. Not necessarily an SBR, probably not AOW. But not a rifle either.
I think. It's complicated.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:37 PM (j0/GV)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (j0/GV)
That is a revolting thought
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (/UQ/R)
NP, us Cyclones gotta stick together!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: rammajamma at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (xceTB)
Well, since you asked.
It feels just like I think Bostonians may have felt in the years-long run up to Concord.
Regardless of anyone's good or bad intentions, it is going to be a clusterf*ck that will be spun in the worst possible way by the PTB. Think Charlottesville to the Nth.
The only reason to attend is to be a part of history.
The Left is pushing this for a reason - they think they can win.
But then, I'm a little depressed right now. It could be unicorns with rainbows coming out their nether regions.
Did I say I'm depressed?
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (Ukac2)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (XZgzl)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (yIBke)
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)
Have you been drinkin' outta Kallisto's jug ?"
Hi JT,
LOL!! I cuss all the time but not usually on Ace. That's one reason I don't comment on the political threads very often. The roiling waters of vituperation can only be held back for so long by the dam of my self control. (I cuss and can be pretentious at the same time.)
Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (7EjX1)
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Too soon to start pestering you about a trip to Texas in October?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (yIBke)
Posted by: Pete Seria at January 12, 2020 08:42 PM (7ZQe3)
Otherwise, 3rd and 4th box time.
Buy ammo. Buy guns. Cache both.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:42 PM (d1uFV)
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)
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That going to take the whole day?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (UUkQp)
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)
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That going to take the whole day?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (MVjcR)
Well you hate to miss the wedding night....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (C1Lsn)
Have they already booked a venue or is there time to set it up in Corsicana?
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (S/rwf)
Like RI Red, while I hope the VA legislature backs down, I don't think they will, because the keep doubling down with the statements they make.
Thanks again, Weasel, excellent job!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (yIBke)
Sigh.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:45 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Yep. Any pretense of pluralism is dead in this country.
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 08:45 PM (Aj7Zq)
at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks, bro.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:45 PM (MVjcR)
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Have they already booked a venue or is there time to set it up in Corsicana?
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (S/rwf)
I think that would be an ultimate MoMe, have a wedding take place at one.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (S/rwf)
Booked it while I was in NC. Lol
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (H8QX8)
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Too soon to start pestering you about a trip to Texas in October?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (
Not at all, and probably necessary to keep my spirits up.
Did I mention that I'm depressed?
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (Ukac2)
"Unlike everyone else in this race, I think what's
important is beating Donald Trump," Bloomberg told the sparse crowd of
fewer than 50 people in San Antonio.
None of the other Dems want to beat Trump?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 08:47 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (+5UIx)
Not at all, and probably necessary to keep my spirits up.
Did I mention that I'm depressed?
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (Ukac2)
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Consider your bad-self pestered.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Guam tipper at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (FsgBK)
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Guam tipper at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (FsgBK)
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That would be greatly appreciated!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (85Gof)
I think he's been calling him Little Mike for a while.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:51 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:51 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (yIBke)
Now there is a plank in a presidential platform. How much are you paying your staff, Mike? Ye gods.
The Age of Stupid abides.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (JCrfD)
This will happen regardless. If nothing happens, they'll make something up. I'm sure the Left (as well as the FBI) has already infiltrated the movement for the purpose of smearing, or worse.
We're always so concerned about how we'll look to the Left, or to the world according to the Left's caricatures and Narratives. The day is coming when this concern will hit the wall of reckoning.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: rammajamma
Probably 20 of then had rotten vegetables with them.
Posted by: Aviator at January 12, 2020 08:53 PM (2cuLk)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (yIBke)
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Good night, my friend. Let's talk soon.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:53 PM (MVjcR)
So take that lesson.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:55 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:56 PM (C1Lsn)
Glad you asked.
One reason is that I am this close >*
And I have a professional challenge next month that, for the first time in my life, I am not positive I will meet.
Third, because Lyndon Johnson and that damn war!
D, because I/we have little control over what happens next.
v., because, I forget.
v.a.1, because Texas hasn't seceded and I ain't there.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:57 PM (Ukac2)
What size pistol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (xSo9G)
Sig P365XL
Link: https://tinyurl.com/umnt3t6
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 08:57 PM (ZXnzo)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (+5UIx)
What size pistol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (xSo9G)
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You guys read the content?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (+5UIx)
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I'll defer to Ben Had and our gracious hosts, but that's doable. You can even sleep in the horse trailer with Country Boy.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:00 PM (MVjcR)
Good luck in Virginia with the commies. I keep a very low social media profile due to opsec and persec and as it is mostly a fucking waste of life. I arrive in the land of the free? on Friday morning. Woo hoo.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
If there are pictures of guns or naked vimen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (85Gof)
It was truly galling after the TX church shooting last week when after it showed that a good guy with a gun works he said that only the police should have guns. That blood thirsty little POS would have loved to have seen that gunman kill multitudes of innocent churchgoers.I hope he spends billions of his dollars and get NOTHING for it.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (w7KSn)
Good luck in Virginia with the commies. I keep a very low social media profile due to opsec and persec and as it is mostly a fucking waste of life. I arrive in the land of the free? on Friday morning. Woo hoo.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (bgJ0E)
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Hello NZFrank! And welcome back!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (j0/GV)
Hell, I would pay to see that fat tub of goo get stomped by a real sumo.
Might even buy a beer or three.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (w7KSn)
If there are pictures of guns or naked vimen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (85Gof)
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There's a boob up there in the flag.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM
Safe travels, and welcome!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (rBtIz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (85Gof
I have a proposal - I think our 'ettes should model the VA state flag. And post pictures.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (Ukac2)
Northam said they were going to put in a grandfather clause on ownership of "assault firearms" that would allow those who already own one to continue legally owning it with registration.
THIS IS NOT IN THE BILL AS IT MARKED UP.
This would be what we in the business call a LIE.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: iandeal at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (vgGyZ)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (/UQ/R)
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (w7KSn)
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Not sure but that area is reliably Dem. Probably the influence of colleges and universities.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:06 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR
Wow. Great minds, etc.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:07 PM (Ukac2)
I grew up thereabouts.
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:07 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (UUkQp)
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Goodnight, brother.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:08 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:08 PM (ZXnzo)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (+5UIx)
Puss pouch.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:08 PM (ZXnzo)
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I admit it!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)
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Just one. West Virginia must have gotten the other one in the divorce.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (Ukac2)
Publish every home address, and pictures of their spouses.
And their daily routines.
They gave up on the law a long time ago.
If you think voting will solve this, after the Lefties Lefties corrupt the voter rolls, you deserve the re-education camp that they will toss you into.
2020, according to the Left, is Zero year.
Your choice is to be a zero or a one.
No other options exist.
Not our call. Don't feel guilty.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (EL4ni)
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You're welcome, pal. Thanks for being here each week!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Christopher at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (/oFxO)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZfBVE)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (XVuno)
So big Desert Eagles are right out.
Another characteristic that makes a semi-auto pistol an "assault firearm" - a threaded barrel.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Kurt at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (kX0vZ)
Awful fucking big of them.
And by the way shipmates, qualify at work tomorrow, wish me 'luck'. Gonna dowse the lantern in a bit.
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (UUkQp)
Good luck shipmate.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZXnzo)
But neighboring Chesapeake went Sanctuary.
Interesting
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (w7KSn)
>*
So, Never Mind.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (Ukac2)
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Well whatever the hell it is, good luck!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM
Safe travels, and welcome!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (rBtIz)
Thanks! and thank you Mr Weasel for the welcome. SHOT Show is going to be good. Maxim goes bang bang bang in 1.5 hours.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (bgJ0E)
Great thread as usual Weasel. Have a good night everyone!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZfBVE)
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Thanks S_D! Glad to have you here.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (XVuno)
Half topless meaning dual underboob, or one fully exposed boob?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:12 PM (NWiLs)
It's a lot like a lawn, only bigger.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (t+qrx)
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With cows.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)
Horses, too.
hormartin and I conducted an experiment with boomsticks, the results of which suggest that horses are *much* smarter than cows.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)
But neighboring Chesapeake went Sanctuary.
Interesting
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (w7KSn)
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Yeah - I've always wondered about that too.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:15 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)
We were specifically told that the cows would wander off if we started shooting, but I was expecting that it would be *because* we started shooting, not just because they eventually got bored.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (0MzWm)
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (Ukac2)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:12 PM (NWiLs)
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Both are featured on the menu.
Posted by: Markie De Sade's House of Discount Pain at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (XVuno)
Weasel,
Damn right! You give us valuable information every thread.
Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Can ya tell he's an attorney ?
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:17 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)
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It's on the list! Was looking at cosmoline today.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:17 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)
One school of thought says wrapped in cosmoline paper and sealed in PVC pipe.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:18 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:18 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (arJlL)
Marshawn Lynch!
Marshawn Lynch!
Marshawn Lynch!
It's like 2014 all over again!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (EL4ni)
It's cheerful and disarming!
Posted by: Razell at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (2B4wA)
344 Future thread topic - how to bury the guns that didn't fall out of the canoe?
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq
JTB, you misspelled, how to dig up the guns that got buried.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (Ukac2)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Can ya tell he's an attorney ?
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:17 PM (arJlL)
Heh. A testosterone-laden one at that.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:20 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:20 PM (arJlL)
How To Bury Your Goods: The Complete Manual of Long Term Underground Storage
Heh
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:21 PM (ZfRYq)
Your threads are very well done !
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:20 PM (arJlL)
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Your standards are evidently lower than mine, but thank you!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:21 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:22 PM (0MzWm)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)
I originally read that as "broomsticks" with an "r" and I was wondering what the heck kind of experiment you two were running with the four-legged critters and how dangerous it was. I wasn't curious enough to ask, though! Some things are best left unknown.
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 09:22 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (Ukac2)
That's the other school of thought. Wondering about stashing them should be the wake-up that it's time to dig them up.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:22 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:23 PM (Ukac2)
Posted by: Janet Jackson at January 12, 2020 09:24 PM (t+4uj)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 09:24 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)
We were specifically told that the cows would wander off if we started shooting, but I was expecting that it would be *because* we started shooting, not just because they eventually got bored.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:15 PM (t+qrx)
They wouldn't even help with the clay thrower. Lazy cows!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:25 PM (0ReGO)
They wouldn't even help with the clay thrower. Lazy cows!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:25 PM (0ReGO)
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We're gonna need better cows!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:26 PM (MVjcR)
They wouldn't even help with the clay thrower. Lazy cows!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:25 PM (0ReGO)
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We're gonna need better cows!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:26 PM (MVjcR)
Fetchez le vache...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:26 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:27 PM (ZXnzo)
Posted by: DairyAir at January 12, 2020 09:27 PM (t+4uj)
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: hogmartin at January
With the pvc tube buried verticle for a smaller metal detector profile.
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (Aj7Zq)
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
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Space Force!!!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:29 PM (MVjcR)
Texas is on the horizon
Posted by: Kurt at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (kX0vZ)
I've always wanted to go to Norge Carolina. Maybe I'll do that after I go to Souge Carolina
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (BxOzf)
Weasel, you pull more than your weight. May the gods let us all meet at Ms. Had's large lawn with cows.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (Ukac2)
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (Aj7Zq)
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Good tip!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (MVjcR)
Shipments not banned. Ship to FFL (dunno if, even now, they have any actual procedures, official, from the state DOJ on how to handle this). Under current law I sold some ammo with the Mosin, FFL laughed and did a sign of the cross, sarcastically, when the buyer and I asked him about that part of the deal. That was late last year, maybe?
I think there's a non-trivial chance SCOTUS will eventually gut much of the idiotic law being imposed, contrary to the constitution and common sense, on many Americans today. But the judiciary is among the most fallen and corrupt institutions we have, so guarded pessimism is reasonable.
Imagine anything like the (effective) express protection of ARs in Heller being ignored, the way it is, by inferior courts and states, if it applied to Civil Rights Act matters. Or the entirely artificial and ridiculous marriage redefinition legislation by the "court". These things would be resolved within a week, tops.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:29 PM (MVjcR)
Somewhere, Eris is taking a shot and doesn't even know why.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (EL4ni)
Looks like Op-Plan time.
And give my best to your classy bacon wench.
Did I just type that? Better go find the Castle Anthrax.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (EL4ni)
Weasel, you pull more than your weight. May the gods let us all meet at Ms. Had's large lawn with cows.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (Ukac2)
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Thank you, amigo.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 12, 2020 09:32 PM (9Om/r)
Looks like Op-Plan time.
And give my best to your classy bacon wench.
Did I just type that? Better go find the Castle Anthrax.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (u82oZ)
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Absolutely my pleasure, Salty. Happy to have you here pal.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0MzWm)
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
Much fun.
We'll have to get Ben Had out there. ;P
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0ReGO)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (NWiLs)
♫ Making a list, and checking it twice. Who has been naughty or nice? ♬
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 09:34 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:34 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Frankie at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (MSU3H)
Still need to do my little experiment to determine how to make loading Mosins from stripper clips normal and proper (i.e. easy and fast). I know the soldati of Red Army loaded them quick/fast.
My current guess is the strength of the interrupter spring tension. Cartridges fit into the slot with ease and room to spare, leaving only the clips themselves or the interrupter as suspects.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0MzWm)
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Home Depot carries surprisingly large diameter PVC pipe.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Frankie at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MSU3H)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MVjcR)
I might expand, use different terms, but the key is: without an American mindset - American in a substantive historical sense, valuing individual freedom, having at least some knowledge of and respect for the constitution - our sacred paper is as meaningless as the laws and constitutions of dictatorships around the world.
Preliminary finding, but I kind of wonder if sufficient #s of Americans in this sense remain to repair the fallen institutions.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (El6T/)
spring tension. Cartridges fit into the slot with ease and room to
spare, leaving only the clips themselves or the interrupter as suspects.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (El6T/)
Load the stripper clips so all the rims overlap in the same direction IE each cartridge going down overlaps the one above. Then when you push them into the magazine the cartridges should angle up. That way the rim on the cartridge on top is in front of the next one down. Yes, the Mosin is supposed to have an interrupter that makes such stripper clip loading antics unnecessary...but it's disappointing how often that interrupter doesn't work.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (ZXnzo)
One school of thought says wrapped in cosmoline paper and sealed in PVC pipe.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:18 PM (t+qrx)
Negative. Vacuum seal packed (as in game meat storage for freezing), wrap in 200mph tape, then into a 25mm or 40mm ammo tin. Keep away from treelines, look for triangulation points , dig deep below normal rain incursion level. Cosmoline will degrade any plastic.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: davidt at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (ptqGC)
Thank you, Weasel, for the excellent thread.
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: davidt at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (l3+k2)
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Bag it, drop in desiccant packs (Amazon - bulk), then vacuum seal would be my guess.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:41 PM (MVjcR)
Thank you, Weasel, for the excellent thread.
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (w7KSn)
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My pleasure navybrat. Thanks for being here.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:42 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MVjcR)
Even sell it in precut 4 ft lengths. (4 inch)
Do note that std SCH40 and DVW are different diameters when you get to 4" pipe. Use SCH40, put a cap on one end and bushings on the other to fit a schroeder valve and you charge it up with nitrogen.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 09:42 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0MzWm)
Three step process
Acetone cleaner on both surfaces
Primer on both surfaces
Liberal blue cement
Consider filing off the edge of the pipe to make a taper for a easier fur.
Use a rubber mallet to firmly tap the end cap in place
YMMV
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 12, 2020 09:43 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: rhomboid
Beginning to think Schlicter's novels are eerily accurate.
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:43 PM (Aj7Zq)
Even sell it in precut 4 ft lengths. (4 inch)
Do note that std SCH40 and DVW are different diameters when you get to 4" pipe. Use SCH40, put a cap on one end and bushings on the other to fit a schroeder valve and you charge it up with nitrogen.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 09:42 PM (1g7ch)
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The nitrogen is a damn good idea.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:44 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: stonecutter at January 12, 2020 09:45 PM (zkxaO)
Posted by: stonecutter at January 12, 2020 09:45 PM (zkxaO)
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You're welcome! Which ones did you end up with?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:47 PM (MVjcR)
Everything else is types deletes territory for me.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (VcFUs)
I'm not optimistic
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Mike in Seattle at January 12, 2020 09:50 PM (L+0dl)
Posted by: Jasper Moore at January 12, 2020 09:51 PM (B+t5k)
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:52 PM (Aj7Zq)
Posted by: klaftern at January 12, 2020 09:52 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Mike in Seattle at January 12, 2020 09:53 PM (L+0dl)
Posted by: stonecutter at January 12, 2020 09:54 PM (zkxaO)
Posted by: Jasper Moore at January 12, 2020 09:54 PM (B+t5k)
I was listening to an angry boy rail on about stupid things, and trying to formulate a calm, but firm response to his nonsense, when his little 9yo sister did it for me, in words that might spill from my own lips.
I've always had a soft spot for the girl, but... biases aside, she's beyond her years, and a bit jaded, but kind. I'm proud of her. And I know she listens to me, because it sounded like me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (wNuYF)
Posted by: Hans O'Lo at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (u7pQw)
Posted by: davidt at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (ptqGC)
I was listening to an angry boy rail on about stupid things, and trying to formulate a calm, but firm response to his nonsense, when his little 9yo sister did it for me, in words that might spill from my own lips.
I've always had a soft spot for the girl, but... biases aside, she's beyond her years, and a bit jaded, but kind. I'm proud of her. And I know she listens to me, because it sounded like me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (wNuYF)
Out of the mouths of babes indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 12, 2020 09:32 PM
Politicians... Pffft!
The Supreme Court should definitiveley rule once and for all whether 2A means what it says for all Americans, or something else...
A pending case before the Court is an opportunity to re-affirm 2A as written, but my hopes are not high... It involves NYC's now repealed law regarding "premise permits"...
If I understand this correctly the grabbers are claiming, that since NYC repealed the law in question, the case is now "moot"! So I'm guessing SCOTUS will punt on this again with another "safe" non-ruling...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (7WaWV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (ptqGC)
No way I could watch something like that without having a ragestroke.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at January 12, 2020 09:58 PM (7ZQe3)
Everything else is types deletes territory for me.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (VcFUs)
I'd use end caps with metal Schroeder valves in the center of each with that nitrogen purge you suggested. I'd also use lots of silicon caulk where the valve penetrates the cap. As a final touch, once the desired nitrogen fill is complete, I'd suggest silicon caulk over the valve itself and a shot of caulk in the top of the valve before screwing on the valve cap.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (BiNEL)
Yeah, it's going to be rage stroke level.
For all the Fox hate, they do things like this.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (ptqGC)
other than the strip tease portion of it, did i miss anything good?
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (zHXTb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 10:00 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Pete Seria at January 12, 2020 10:00 PM (7ZQe3)
Almost time for the free militias to form once again.
Posted by: Christopher
I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.
George Mason
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 10:00 PM (aKsyK)
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Hey there - nah, pretty quiet night. Thanks again for the links.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 10:01 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 10:01 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Builder Berg at January 12, 2020 10:01 PM (q5XnN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 10:02 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 10:04 PM (MVjcR)
Norge Carolina is next
Texas is on the horizon
Posted by: Kurt at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (kX0vZ)
We can keep beating the drum of defeatism or try doing something about it. (WV was a "blue state". WI, MI and PA, reliably "blue states", were not in 2016. Why?)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 10:04 PM (XZgzl)
https://tinyurl.com/ru9powr
The author is no fan of even doing Lobby Day, arguing that it'll probably become another Charlottesville, and he's none too gentle in saying so, but regardless, this seems to me like things that should already be in progress. But I'm not in VA so I don't know.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 12, 2020 10:05 PM (2PXwn)
Their state gooberment is going full retard and I just know the commie mf'rs in my own state are salivating over the chances to do the same here.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 10:06 PM (ZXnzo)
That's a complete AR for $350 - you'll need mags and sights/optics but that is dirt cheap.
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 10:08 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 10:10 PM (0ReGO)
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 10:11 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Ladyl at January 12, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)
Texas is on the horizon
Posted by: Kurt
So much optimism without any real hope.
Why, here's something for ya right now, Kurt:
DEVELOPING: Gov't watchdogs raising concerns Hunter Biden's political gifts to several Senate Dems--inclg Leahy, Hernandez, Booker, Whitehouse, Cardin, Cantwell--may transgress Senate "conflict of interest" rules & possibly trigger recusal requirements during Senate impeachment voting...
Oops!
Posted by: Boswell at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: GGE
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I am not a commie mfr'r!
Posted by: Dan Cooper, Commie Mfr'r at January 12, 2020 10:15 PM (CDGwz)
are html tags allowed in the comments? italics, stuff like that
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (iTXRQ)
Sure!
Posted by: The Barrel at January 12, 2020 10:15 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at January 12, 2020 10:15 PM (HuH1F)
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (iTXRQ)
yes they are...just don't forget to close them or you spend a night in the
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 10:16 PM (ZXnzo)
i'm good at finding fun shit, but i'd suck at getting a coherent thread ready every... OOOOH, Shiny!.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 10:17 PM (zHXTb)
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:17 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 10:27 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: klaftern
You don't expect an organization with such limited funding as the NFL to have
Posted by: mikeski at January 12, 2020 10:28 PM (P1f+c)
You may want to consider ordering ammo from an outfit like SG Ammo and having it shipped to Ben Had (if she OKs that).
This is a common strategy when going to schools or competitions due to weight/number of rounds restrictions when flying.
Bring an IFAK. Stuff happens.
Posted by: Waepnedmann at January 12, 2020 11:47 PM (wuEJO)
Rifle recommendation:
Ruger American in 6.5 Creedmor.
Superior ballistics than the .308.
Less recoil.
Ammo is readily available.
Less than $500 on Gunbroker.com.
The long range shooters at my club are reporting that folks are shooting the 1000 yd matches with them right out of the box and are being very competitive. Of course, after mounting some good quality glass and spending time with load development.
Two years ago a club member took 1st in the 600 yd match with Hornady factory ammo on his first outing with his.
I shot my buddy's last Friday and was impressed. Good factory trigger. Smooth bolt retraction and feed. It reminded me of the smoothness of a Colt-Sauer from back in the day.
Want.
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