Gun Thread: And So It Begins [Weasel]

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Virginia Motto: Sic Semper Tyrannis

As you are by now undoubtedly aware, the New Year brings with it Democrat majorities in both the Senate and House of Delegates in Virginia. Combined with a sitting Governor who by any reasonable measure is an outright abomination to all but the most radical leftists, the stage is now set for a massive gun control push. We were expecting it, and now it is here. Let's take a look at where we are today, shall we?


In anticipation of the assault on our right to keep and bear arms by the radical left, about eight weeks ago a remarkable grassroots phenomenon began to spread across the Commonwealth in the form of individual localities declaring themselves 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries. This was not a campaign conceived and executed by the marketing department of Big Gun, but rather an organic expression of the citizen's commitment to their Bill of Rights, and a repudiation of almost certain overreach by the government. As I write this, 91 counties and a total of 34 independent cities and towns have agreed with the voters, sending an unambiguous message to Richmond. Enough is enough.

Over the last few days, radical leftist politicians in Virginia have filed a comprehensive array of proposed gun control legislation which should make all but the most committed anti-gun tyrant cringe. Think I'm exaggerating? Let's have a look. The links will take you to the legislative language.

I may have missed something, but you get the idea.

This isn't about safety, and it sure as hell isn't about "common sense" gun laws. This is about implementing unchecked government control of the citizenry, which is the very reason the 2nd Amendment exists in the first place. Anyone inclined to commit mass murder or other atrocities will not be disuaded by any of this bullshit. For those of you thinking an infringement of gun rights is no big deal, how do you like your freedom of speech, your ability to choose your own religion, or anything else contained in the Bill of Rights for that matter? All of the very things that make America, well, America could very well be up for grabs one day, too. When citizens lose the ability to defend themselves, the pace of infringements to their rights and the consolidation of power by the government will only accelerate. Think about that.

Lobby Days
On January 13th and 20th, the National Rifle Association and the Virginia Citizens Defense League are holding their respective Lobby Days in Richmond. A Lobby Day is traditionally a day when lobbyists meet with lawmakers to convince them to support a particular point of view. The NRA was a little late to the game, but as many as 20,000 people are expected in Richmond on the 20th for the VCDL event. Just last Friday, the Democrats began changing long-standing rules and have designated the Virginia Capitol and many of the surrounding buildings as "Gun Free Zones." It is entirely possible they will follow-up just before these planned events and declare the capitol grounds as "gun free" in order to create last minute confusion on the issue among attendees. Stay informed.

As I mentioned before, these are Lobby Days. They are not Be a Badass or Start Some Shit Days. I will absolutely guarantee you that extremists on the left are going to be there in number to start trouble and make the pro-gun side look like the aggressor in any confrontation. One of my best friends and my main shooting buddy made a career as a network cameraman, and has covered countless rallies, demonstrations, civil disturbances and outright wars all over the world. Time after time he has seen first hand the tactics of the left, who will stop at nothing to cause you to lose your cool. Want to be on the evening news in a video edited to make you look like a aggressive gun-toting redneck? That can and will happen. If you are confronted, walk away. You will do more damage to the cause and give the left just what it wants if you get into as much as a shouting match. Think the media will cover any of this in a fair and unbiased manner? Think again.

These events have the potential to go sideways in a hurry so keep your wits about you, do be safe, and do not be the star in a shitshow. This is simply about showing numbers. All eyes are on Virginia, which is why it is critical this not devolve into a riot. Believe me when I say the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary movement has the attention of the legislature, and tens of thousands of people in Richmond will be very difficult to ignore. The time for vigorous protest will come later. In the meantime, for those of you in Virginia, let your local government officials know you are engaged and serious about the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary declarations. Let them know you expect them to follow through on their commitments, and that you are available to help in any way possible.

Whatever happens in Richmond during the upcoming Lobby Days, and even later, will not be the end of the matter. Regardless of which laws are eventually passed, and some or all of these will be, it is not over. The unconstitutional measures being considered, if passed into law, will be challenged in court - a process likely to take years. Keep in mind FFL's and other businesses will have to immediately comply with any new laws and restrictions as they become effective later this year, so think long term and plan accordingly.

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One has to look no further than to our friends in New Zealand to see what unchecked gun control might look like. [H/T Hrothgar]

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Thanks mazzman, nice job!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM




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1 Ready on the firing line

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCEU2)

2 Hey Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:00 PM (Y4EXg)

3 Corgis dutifully called

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:02 PM (ZCEU2)

4 More than ten miles away, so doesn't matter.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (NWiLs)

5 Boobs!

Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (Tnijr)

6 Well, boob.

Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (Tnijr)

7 Until we can vote out the anti-gunners we all must do what we can to combat these tyrants by what ever legal means possible.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (ZfBVE)

8 And So It Begins



I've heard this before.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:04 PM (yQpMk)

9 Howdy, sharpshooters!

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:05 PM (87gB3)

10 Picked up a new rifle yesterday here in Virginia. My FFL guy told me that between 01Jan20 and yesterday, more than 31,000 guns have been purchased in Virginia.

Good.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at January 12, 2020 07:05 PM (AiDml)

11 Good video

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (ZCEU2)

12 I appreciate Weasel's reminders that the lobbying efforts are about lobbying, not tough dude posturing.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (87gB3)

13 Good.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at January 12, 2020 07:05 PM (AiDml)
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Very good.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (MVjcR)

14 Went to the gun show here in Hampton, VA (Working at Langley this past week and next). Lotta purchases observed. Nothing I wanted that I could afford. There was an A2 Carbine Full Auto that I would have bought if I had $11000 just laying around. Oh, well. Hope this sorts out in our favor. Now to read the thread

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 07:07 PM (+5UIx)

15 No gun newz for me. I did buy a 10.5" 300AAC barrel for Missy, but it won't come until tomorrow. I don't know what size the gas port journal is so I don't know if I have one to fit yet or not.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:07 PM (yQpMk)

16 guns up!

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 07:07 PM (zHXTb)

17 I appreciate Weasel's reminders that the lobbying efforts are about lobbying, not tough dude posturing.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:06 PM (87gB3)
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Thanks, Emmie. I really hope this doesn't turn into a mess.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

18 Well I made it to the range again this week. Even though we had super nice weather up here in the NorthEast I opted to go to the indoor range as opposed to the outdoor range I belong to to save 2 hours of travel time.I put 150 rounds down range. 50 at 7 yards, 50 at 10 yards and 50 at 15 yards.I sent pics to Weasel rather late so maybe next week ya'll can see how I did.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (ZfBVE)

19 Virginia is officially up a creek without a paddle.


In other news...



Because of Kansas City
Jewells45 needs to strip



She's a crazy little woman and
Her hubby doesn't give a flip

Posted by: Vendette at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (pXNaM)

20 19 Virginia is officially up a creek without a paddle.


In other news...



Because of Kansas City
Jewells45 needs to strip



She's a crazy little woman and
Her hubby doesn't give a flip
Posted by: Vendette at January 12, 2020 07:08 PM (pXNaM)

*turns on livestream*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (NWiLs)

21 Democrats are the best salesman for firearms.

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (ZCEU2)

22 Here in Oregon, we expect the Democrats to resurrect all the garbage legislation that triggered a Republican walkout in the state senate last year. That includes some severe restrictions on firearms rights. Hopefully the state GOP maintains enough cohesion to throw up any needed roadblocks. I don't expect Oregon will ever have a conservative majority, or even a strong plurality, ever again. I would pack up and move, but there are too many issues with that - especially at my age - to make that a practical solution.

Posted by: PabloD at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (vlwIa)

23 It's depressing that we have states in the US which are devolving or have devolved into fascist regimes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (NWiLs)

24 "I may have missed something, but you get the idea."


Yeah, two other big ones are:
- Near total ban on indoor ranges
- Near total ban on outdoor ranges, *and* on shooting outdoors on private property.


People aren't going to abide by the "show up and don't look like a mad max extra" thing; they're pissed, and what the Dems are doing in VA is a deliberate attempt to push people into insurrection.

Nobody expects coverage to be fair, and not many people care because this isn't about optics anymore.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (67XdO)

25 Me and Mr. Spypeach will be in Richmond on the 20th. Praying there are no shenanigans.

Posted by: spypeach at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (7R8A2)

26 Bought the new Walther PPKS and have no place to shoot anymore. I have the sadz.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (JUOKG)

27 Matt Bracken has warned that he thinks a false flag operation is a very real possibility.

On another note, shot IDPA for the first time in many months, yay!

Shockingly enough, I did pretty well shooting the abbreviated qualifier. Still doesn't mean I moved up a classification, but, I managed to keep my shots strings inside the "1 down" zone with over half my shots inside the "0" down ring..while making the final shot, which was a head shot.

The shooting distance for the qualifier was maybe 10 yards.

Then, to top things off, there was a stage that was a "Mozambique" drill. Started with 6 rounds in the magazine, two to the body, reload, head shots on the initial three targets, then shoot the rest of the stage.

Had a great time, though, as usual, there were a couple of stages that were on the humbling side.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (WEBkv)

28 The guy in the opening needs to take a breath. Also, I think the 2' banana magazines made Bloomberg cry.

Posted by: pep at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (T6t7i)

29 "I may have missed something, but you get the idea."

Yeah Jewels is gonna strip!

Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (Tnijr)

30 Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (67XdO)
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I had some conflicting information whether those were still on the table, hence the "may have missed some"

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

31 29 "I may have missed something, but you get the idea."

Yeah Jewels is gonna strip!
Posted by: freaked at January 12, 2020 07:13 PM (Tnijr)

*plays raunchy music*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:14 PM (NWiLs)

32 People aren't going to abide by the "show up and don't look like a mad
max extra" thing; they're pissed, and what the Dems are doing in VA is a
deliberate attempt to push people into insurrection.
Of course if there were a million law abiding gun owning demonstrators acting peacefully and not scaring anyone, the media WILL find that one person who fulfills their vision of a "gun nut" and that is what they will show 24/7.
We just have to make sure to push back and show as best we can we ARE your average American.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (ZfBVE)

33 Vendette

I was worried about Jewells45's heart after the first quarter. Lets hold off on the pole action until the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

Because I do think her husband cares.

Maybe pudding over Victory Breasts for now.
{{{Jewells45}}}! And yes I mentioned this to my wife. She is not a Chiefs fan. So no.

Question. If we ask for that are we still a smart military and family friendly blog?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (u82oZ)

34 I sure hope the VCDL has done some early venue shopping. I see the tyrants really railroading these bills through, and the only alternative will be lawfare. Well, maybe not the only alternative.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (C1Lsn)

35 The Democrats took over VA by the voting of all those locusts living in a 50 radius around DC. VA residents should start a bill in Congress to take all of DC and a 50 mile radius from the center and place it in MD which is already a Democrat Hell.

Posted by: Vic at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (mpXpK)

36 Darn italics didn't take. Grrrr

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:16 PM (ZfBVE)

37 Tactfully make your voice heard, VA.

That Surefire YT clip was frickin beautiful!

No range time yet. Difficulties I am trying to sort through first...BUT, I may just hit the range the beginning of next month. We shall see.

RIP Prof. Neil Peart (12 Sep 1952-7 Jan 2020)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:16 PM (XZgzl)

38 well the thing about Virginia is that the handful of counties that border Washington DC are populated by people who

1 work for the govt
2 do business with the govt
3 take handouts from the govt

so they all vote D, and do so in sufficient numbers to effectively outvote the rest of the state

it won't get better for downstate and rural Virginians

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 07:16 PM (iTXRQ)

39 Went to the gun show in Taylor yesterday, picked up a nice New Model Blackhawk .357. Been wanting a .357 for a while now but didn't like most of the snubby or thick-barreled versions. I'm really liking the feel of this one.

Now for a little New Year range time!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (2lndx)

40 Range visit this week - worked on grip issues again, just like last week. So, slow draw - aiming for a correct grip more than getting off a shot.

Dipped under 10K of ammo of all types in the abode this week. So, as you said Weasel, time to stock up.

In other news, have taken to wearing my new AIWB holster all the time now, even in the house. It's like I don't even feel it anymore. I do have to upgrade my wardrobe a bit but it's time anyway.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (Y4EXg)

41 Damn communists.

Every gun owner should get out and vote and vote for anyone not democrat. Time to stop fucking around.

This week is Hi-Power week. I took the .40 S&W out and she ran fine. Accurate and no issues. A little snappy but easy to shoot and nice fit in the hand. A snap to disassemble, clean and re-assemble, which is always a plus.

I will compare it to the 9 mm Hi Power this week and may the better caliber win.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (Z+IKu)

42 This weekend the organizer of our church's security team told me that a new attender is uncomfortably gung-ho about participating in the security team.

Many of us in the community have known this fellow and his family for decades, know they are upstanding and contributing members of the community, and have no reason to doubt his motives. However, I have observed some autistic or Asberger-y tendencies in him and at least one of his brothers. I think this explains his fixation on the security team.

Just wondering if anyone here knows if being "on the spectrum" would necessarily make this guy a bad bet for the team or if there's a constructive way to successfully harness his enthusiasm and interest.

To be clear, I do not know if my observations are correct, and I think even if he is on the spectrum, I don't think he knows it.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (87gB3)

43 "27
Matt Bracken has warned that he thinks a false flag operation is a very real possibility."


That's the nasty part about this push; if people do nothing, they lose. If they do... basically anything not half-assed, it can be twisted into whatever the Dems need or want.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (67XdO)

44 I had some conflicting information whether those were still on the table, hence the "may have missed some"
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:14 PM (MVjcR)
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I've seen some stuff about these laws, with people thinking that, well, the laws may not do this, and may not do that...blah blah blah.

No.

Every single one of the laws under consideration in VA, when passed, will be interpreted in the broadest way possible. There will be no "benefit of a doubt" because these people mean to show us peasants who's in charge.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (WEBkv)

45 Roger Scruton RIP

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7879223

That was a shock.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (XzVUd)

46 1 work for the govt
2 do business with the govt
3 take handouts from the govt
D) Write Gun Threads

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (MVjcR)

47 Here in Oregon, we expect the Democrats to resurrect all the garbage legislation that triggered a Republican walkout in the state senate last year. That includes some severe restrictions on firearms rights. Hopefully the state GOP maintains enough cohesion to throw up any needed roadblocks. I don't expect Oregon will ever have a conservative majority, or even a strong plurality, ever again. I would pack up and move, but there are too many issues with that - especially at my age - to make that a practical solution.
Posted by: PabloD at January 12, 2020 07:09 PM (vlwIa)

The Oregon legislative session starts Feb. 2 and only runs for a month because on even ending years it's a short session.

I've been stocking ammo like crazy. Kinda pissed because the AR I ordered in early October hasn't come in yet. Not here by end of the week I'll go to another supplier.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (Mki/r)

48 23 It's depressing that we have states in the US which are devolving or have devolved into fascist regimes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 07:10 PM (NWiLs)

Even more depressing is that voters ask for it. (Yeah, I know, the so-called political opposition didn't run candidates in many VA races, but...)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (XZgzl)

49 Shoulda, coulda, woulda...

About three years ago while Sessions was getting side-lined Trump should have put him on a mission to aggressively prosecuted violations of civil rights. With crowd pleasing targeting of small town deputies harassing passers through to big (NE) city prosecutors doing same they could have established good precedent for jailing the modern day Klan wannabees. By now they could have flanked the deep state and attacked from the rear... and cut off the attempts at civil right violations that democrats have always advanced Such as in VA now.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:18 PM (1g7ch)

50 People aren't going to abide by the "show up and don't look like a mad
max extra" thing; they're pissed, and what the Dems are doing in VA is a
deliberate attempt to push people into insurrection.
Of course if there were a million law abiding gun owning demonstrators acting peacefully and not scaring anyone, the media WILL find that one person who fulfills their vision of a "gun nut" and that is what they will show 24/7.
We just have to make sure to push back and show as best we can we ARE your average American.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (ZfBVE)
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The left will false flag that also.

The "crazy gun nut" will likely be astro turf.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:19 PM (WEBkv)

51 The story on the New Zealand guy whose house was raided over a lever action .22 is crazy. They will keep raiding houses until the gun turns up. WTF?

The questions the guy asks are darkly humorous:

Do we live in a democratic civilization? No, you don't. You elected leftists and now they will take away your rights and voice for your own good. And if little Jimmy moves the wrong way during one of those raids for firearms and gets rightfully shot, well, you cannot make a safe omelet without breaking some toddler eggs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 12, 2020 07:19 PM (ycWCI)

52 That's the nasty part about this push; if people do nothing, they lose. If they do... basically anything not half-assed, it can be twisted into whatever the Dems need or want.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:17 PM (67XdO)
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exactly.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:19 PM (MVjcR)

53
Lobbyist: intervenes for a conservative cause

Activist: intervenes for a Left-wing cause

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 12, 2020 07:20 PM (7rVsF)

54 Just wondering if anyone here knows if being "on the spectrum" would necessarily make this guy a bad bet for the team or if there's a constructive way to successfully harness his enthusiasm and interest.

Posted by: Emmie

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Don't have any professional advice to give you but clearly this fella gives you pause. Do others on the team have the same feelings or concerns as you do? If a person gives you the willies. . . .

He may not be a good fit for the team.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:22 PM (Y4EXg)

55 For those of you thinking an infringement of gun rights is no big deal, how do you like your freedom of speech, your ability to choose your own religion, or anything else.


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And make no mistake, these will be next.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2020 07:23 PM (axyOa)

56 I probably run in different circles than a lot of you, so I'm going to offer a warning that the worst case you might be thinking of for "militant gun nut appearance" is probably fairly mild compared to what some people are already intending.


I've seen serious discussions on costs and feasibility for showing up with armor. Not body armor - for which there has been a massive run in retail sales just for the 20th - but rumble-clankity-clank armor.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:23 PM (67XdO)

57 False flag op is a dead certainty in my opinion.

What else have they got at this point ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 12, 2020 07:24 PM (zlgJP)

58 He may not be a good fit for the team.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:22 PM (Y4EXg)


Thanks, Tonypete. My fear is that if an emergency situation arises, his tendency to fixate on something may interfere with appropriate action.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:25 PM (87gB3)

59 Don't mean to ask a facile question, but why do gun owners have to be on their absolute best behavior in the face of leftist provocateurs? Which audience are they trying to win over? Absolute strength without mercy.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v8)

60 Apropos of armor, I did buy a bogo pair of these with the rifle plates:

http://bit.ly/2RbJuxC

I'm going to give one to the boy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

61 To be clear, I do not know if my observations are correct, and I think even if he is on the spectrum, I don't think he knows it.

What Tonypete said. Some Aspies function pretty well under stress, some don't. Your gut will likely tell you whether you should trust him or not...

Posted by: Bringer of Info at January 12, 2020 07:27 PM (7s3Gx)

62 http://bit.ly/2RbJuxC

I'm going to give one to the boy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (yQpMk)


Those are spiffy-looking!

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:27 PM (87gB3)

63 I will second SGAmmo. I buy most of my ammo there, usually in 1000 lots or larger. Fast service, great prices, never had a bad experience. Next order will be for 6.5 creedmor for the gun I want to buy.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ziy0N)

64 It does suck that we have an entire political class and 97% of the media against us.I am being optimistic in that we will prevail.Because if we do not I fear for what will happen in this country.
On a lighter note I am happy to say that I will be going to the TXMoMe in October. Booked the flight and hotel last week.
Looking forward to meeting ya'll!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ZfBVE)

65 To #42: IMHO, you need clear-headed minds for the team; people who are mindful of the grim nature of what they may be called upon to do. Sure, some level of enthusiasm is good, but yet tempered by the necessity of what they are there for.

The team is not for everybody and as such I'd give a pass to whoever made me uncomfortable.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (XZgzl)

66 Don't mean to ask a facile question, but why do gun owners have to be on their absolute best behavior in the face of leftist provocateurs? Which audience are they trying to win over? Absolute strength without mercy.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v
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I say that because I see this evolving over time, through legal channels if at all possible. Let's leave the discussion of what comes after that for another day.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)

67 Don't mean to ask a facile question, but why do gun owners have to be on their absolute best behavior in the face of leftist provocateurs? Which audience are they trying to win over? Absolute strength without mercy.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v
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Reminds me of that old TEA party sign: "Doesn't Matter What This Sign Says, You'll Call it Racist Any way."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (WEBkv)

68 Those are spiffy-looking!


And seem like a good deal. A pair with the 11x15 rifle plates is $255 delivered. The 10lb weight seems a little high for a backpack but he rides a bike in Charlotte.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (yQpMk)

69 I was worried about Jewells45's heart after the
first quarter. Lets hold off on the pole action until the Chiefs win
the Super Bowl.



Because I do think her husband cares.



Maybe pudding over Victory Breasts for now.

{{{Jewells45}}}! And yes I mentioned this to my wife. She is not a Chiefs fan. So no.



Question. If we ask for that are we still a smart military and family friendly blog?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:15 PM (u82oZ)


In a previous thread she promised she'd dispose of her clothes if the Chiefs won today.

Posted by: Vendette at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (pXNaM)

70 Thanks, Tonypete. My fear is that if an emergency situation arises, his tendency to fixate on something may interfere with appropriate action.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:25 PM (87gB3)

I don't know how y'all run things, but if you run some drills or training scenarios see how the guy performs.

Sometimes the guy you think is a little weird is really good at what you need him to do. And if he fucks up, get him gone if he can't correct it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (Z+IKu)

71 Nice viddy. Obviously, did not get to the range, but I ordered a Gisselle two stage SSA trigger for under $200. I'm collecting parts for my next MSR build. 224 Valkyrie. Because I'm trying to get better at learning how. Two lowers and one upper so far. More to come

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (+5UIx)

72 Ummmmm, who or what is Jewells45?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (ZfBVE)

73 Gun rights advocates MUST make clear to everyone else that 4th Amendment (privacy) rights are destroyed by legislation requiring "Universal Background Checks" for gun purchases.

"Universal" means that EVERYBODY, whether they now own guns or might ever want to buy a gun, is "in the system" with a background that is available to gun sellers and police to be "checked". Ever take pain killers that say you shouldn't operate dangerous machinery? That's part of the "background" that goes into the records system. Ever get a speeding ticket -- operating dangerous machinery in an unsafe manner? In the system. Bad debts? Registered to vote third party? (There's a "Red" flag for you, comrade!) Live in a neighborhood with a high rate of violent crime?

Posted by: pouncer at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (L/ssi)

74 Your gut will likely tell you whether you should trust him or not...
Posted by: Bringer of Info at January 12, 2020 07:27 PM (7s3Gx)


I've mostly seen him on stage. He and his brothers are very talented musicians. But I had noticed that he kind of avoided looking to his audience in an engaging manner. And at church, we had a conversation where he was very insistent that a particular ministry approach was the only correct one.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:32 PM (87gB3)

75 66 Don't mean to ask a facile question, but why do gun owners have to be on their absolute best behavior in the face of leftist provocateurs? Which audience are they trying to win over? Absolute strength without mercy.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 12, 2020 07:26 PM (DY3v
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I say that because I see this evolving over time, through legal channels if at all possible. Let's leave the discussion of what comes after that for another day.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)

Never hand the enemy a loaded gun pointed at your head. Weasel is spot-on.

Besides, I think the Left has gone so insane that they have lost a critical capability: the ability to win hearts and minds. If the Left is out to alienate as many people as possible - and I can see their tactics here and elsewhere doing such - get out of the way and let them do it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:32 PM (XZgzl)

76 Nice viddy. Obviously, did not get to the range, but I ordered a Gisselle two stage SSA trigger for under $200. I'm collecting parts for my next MSR build. 224 Valkyrie. Because I'm trying to get better at learning how. Two lowers and one upper so far. More to come

McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 07:31 PM (+5UIx)
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You'll like the Geissele trigger!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:33 PM (MVjcR)

77 I don't know how y'all run things, but if you run some drills or training scenarios see how the guy performs.

Sometimes the guy you think is a little weird is really good at what you need him to do. And if he fucks up, get him gone if he can't correct it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 07:30 PM (Z+IKu)


Good idea. Our security team leader has a lot of experience knowing what to look for.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:34 PM (87gB3)

78 64 It does suck that we have an entire political class and 97% of the media against us.I am being optimistic in that we will prevail.Because if we do not I fear for what will happen in this country.
On a lighter note I am happy to say that I will be going to the TXMoMe in October. Booked the flight and hotel last week.
Looking forward to meeting ya'll!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ZfBVE)

This here Texan will vouch for Scuba_Dude. He may be a Yankee, but he'll fit right in once in TX.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (XZgzl)

79 Don't worry kids, we'll cover these two events in a non-biased way.

Posted by: Local and National Media at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (NSFCQ)

80 Catch 33, good point. The Left is doing a lot more damage to themselves than we are. Look at what the #MeToo campaign did, took down Weinstein and Franken.Of course if the media did not go out of their way to protect and serve the Left who knows what shape they may have been.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (ZfBVE)

81 Vendette

Thanks. Missed that. Chores, etc. etc. etc.

Scuba_Dude

Jewells45 is a Kansas City 'ette. Her specality is making nice jewelry for the Horde and others. Her talent in fabrication and good customer service has allowed me to keep my wife happy.

Besides her talents, she is a tall, bendy drink of water with some awesome dance moves.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:36 PM (u82oZ)

82 On a lighter note I am happy to say that I will be going to the TXMoMe in October. Booked the flight and hotel last week.
Looking forward to meeting ya'll!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:28 PM (ZfBVE)
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Anyone want to tell SD how much fun he's going to have?

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:36 PM (MVjcR)

83 Someone up above mentioned Matt Bracken. Has he been unbanned from Twitter yet?

Posted by: squeakywheel at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (hFksC)

84 This here Texan will vouch for Scuba_Dude. He may be a Yankee, but he'll fit right in once in TX.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:35 PM (XZgzl)

Hey!!! Technically I am a Floridian. A Floridian who has spent the majority of his life in New York.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)

85 Hey!!! Technically I am a Floridian. A Floridian who has spent the majority of his life in New York.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)
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New York City?!?!!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:38 PM (MVjcR)

86 Scuba_Dude, Name your drink of choice now and I will have one in hand when arrive.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (yIBke)

87 Just want to say:

I regard the Horde as the best bunch of experts on the entire web. I greatly appreciate it when you are willing to share your insights and knowledge with me.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (87gB3)

88 Where the hell is the Supreme Court?

Sure seems like we are not getting anywhere.

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (NgKpN)

89 Weasel

Whatever Ladyl wears to the machine gun shoot is a good tell.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (u82oZ)

90 Thanks NaCly Dog. I was wondering what everone was talking about. LOL
And Weasel, any idea how much ammo I should bring for my Sig (who I am going to bring with me)? :-)
Maybe a 1,000 should cover it. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:39 PM (ZfBVE)

91 "I say that because I see this evolving over time,
through legal channels if at all possible. Let's leave the discussion
of what comes after that for another day.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:29 PM (MVjcR)"


If this push is the deliberate provocation that many think it is, things will evolve faster than you would like. A good example is state and local governments staffing up to browse social media and file red flag orders. This is happening now, in other states; they're being used as a tool to put the boot to people's necks.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (67XdO)

92 Well at least Hong Kong and France aren't scared into their best behavior by the media.

Posted by: El Fucko at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (i7K8m)

93 If there are reports and clips of "agressive gun-toting rednecks" on TV, my bet it would be left-wing plants acting the part.

Posted by: meese at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (jOdoW)

94 Btw

The 20th is MLK day. Which means we'll be appalled at these racists trying to intimidate POCs.


Soon.

Posted by: Local and National Media at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (NSFCQ)

95 If I were to go to a any event expecting fascist antifa to show up I'd dress like I was Johnny Cash.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:41 PM (1g7ch)

96 So yesterday at our liquor store, I wind up in a 20 minute discussion concerning firearms, conservatism, and the possible need to exercise the right to refuse to obey unconstitutional laws.

Nothing like having they guy who sells me my drinks also like to collect and shoot stuff.

And lots of folk here in Maryland are watching Virginia, closely.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 12, 2020 07:41 PM (tT0V4)

97 No Weasel, I am a Lawn Guylander. :-)
And Ben Had, I love my Guinness, but when in Texas I guess Shiner or Lone Star?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:41 PM (ZfBVE)

98 The Lefties in Virginia have no idea the hell they are bringing on themselves.

No effing idea.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (EL4ni)

99 So this is my take on how this will go down - if it even goes down. Virginia men - regardless of Virginia's storied history, have become so emasculated that they'll roll over at the first sign of danger singing patriotic songs dripping with 'Merica"-based jingoism "Battle Hymn of the Republic, Dixie, Proud to be an American" all the way down until Tulsi Haley (Nikki, Tulsi - same frikin thing) jumps in and saves the day with a moving speech - thus preventing the inevitable fight and catapulting her to the 2024 nomination. Prove me wrong - East Coast sissy boys.

Posted by: Chouinard at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (ua1m6)

100 Weasel,
Thanks for the cautions about Richmond. I can't attend the rallies but will be paying attention. Also, I won't be commenting about the new tyranny for my sake and Ace's. But DAMN!! It is tempting.

Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (7EjX1)

101 And Weasel, any idea how much ammo I should bring for my Sig

What caliber? I'll be driving in and will be bringing some toys.

Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (S/rwf)

102 SG Ammo quit shipping to CA. I hope they go under. If anybody needs ammo it is Californians. I'm pretty sure I put one of his kids through college.

Posted by: nip at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (cpS4u)

103 If there are reports and clips of "agressive gun-toting rednecks" on TV, my bet it would be left-wing plants acting the part.
Posted by: meese at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (jOdoW)
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Yep. That, too.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:43 PM (MVjcR)

104 Scuba_Dude, I'm a Guinness fan also so that will be on hand!

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:43 PM (yIBke)

105 Hey!!! Technically I am a Floridian. A Floridian who has spent the majority of his life in New York.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)

You sure have a funny accent for a Floridian.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:44 PM (XZgzl)

106 Besides, I think the Left has gone so insane that they have lost a critical capability: the ability to win hearts and minds. If the Left is out to alienate as many people as possible - and I can see their tactics here and elsewhere doing such - get out of the way and let them do it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:32 PM (XZgzl)

Yeah, but its like Gay marriage, or the Russian Hoax crap.

Sure seems like we win the argument, and then loose in the Courts and with the DOJ.

I don't see ONE prominent Democrat in Jail, while I see LOTS of Prominent Trump Team guys either in Jail or under indictment, even though WE supposedly run the DOJ???

Same with gun laws. I currently can't even buy ammo here in California without going through ANOTHER background check and registering my guns, and paying the STATE for the pleasure of doing so.

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:44 PM (NgKpN)

107 Scuba Dude - Jewells is where you can get you AoSHq signature key chain if you ever need a distress call flash that.

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:44 PM (ZCEU2)

108 So a couple of questions......

Any opinions or experience with Diamondback?

Same for the snagless sight on the Sig 365.

Thanks!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (/UQ/R)

109 Panhandler, a hug for you, Sir.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (yIBke)

110 Panhandler, I have a 9mm.I am not bringing any ammo with me when I fly down (don't want to give them another thing to hassle me about) and I figure to buy ammo in Texas.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (ZfBVE)

111 "102
SG Ammo quit shipping to CA. I hope they go under. If anybody needs
ammo it is Californians. I'm pretty sure I put one of his kids through
college.





Posted by: nip at January 12, 2020 07:42 PM (cpS4u)"

Everyone quit shipping to CA, mail order ammo is banned there. Face to face retail only with background checks (about 1/4 of which have been wrongly denied since they started doing that)

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (67XdO)

112 Corrupt governments are elected using corrupt voter rolls. Fraud is winning.

See: Blue state Motor voter laws for details.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 07:46 PM (EL4ni)

113 Panhandler, a hug for you, Sir.

Reservations made, goodies lined up = I'll be bringing THE HAT that it might be awarded as a travelling trophy.

Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (S/rwf)

114 There's just...a bunch of crap, an bunch of drama, and issues to be sorted out to start this year. (I will spare you the gory details. Why bring down a perfectly good gun thread like that?) BUT if I have anything to say about it, I'll be in Corsicana in October, and it won't be to buy the fruitcake. It will be to hit the TXMoMee.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (XZgzl)

115 Except for the nice clothes and clean hair, that SureFire vid looked a lot like a warm and diverse summer weekend in Chicago.

Posted by: Syzygy at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (B3kya)

116 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 07:47 PM (XZgzl)
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Hope to see you there!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:49 PM (MVjcR)

117 I figure to buy ammo in Texas.

Nah, I and others will bringing a lot, save your ammo money for the Collins Street Bakery.

Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 07:49 PM (S/rwf)

118
Virginia must prove they are WORTHY of the 2nd Amendment.

This could be the 2nd 'shot heard round the world'.

If they prove themselves, volunteers from the other 49 will journey there knowing they are fighting not only for Virginians but for all America.


Schoolhouse Rock - "The Shot Heard Around the World"

"The British are coming! The British are coming!

Now, the ride of Paul Revere
Set the nation on its ear
And the shot at Lexington heard 'round the world
When the British fired in the early dawn
The War of Independence had begun
The die was cast, the rebel flag unfurled

And on to Concord marched the foe
To seize the arsenal there you know
Waking folks searching all around
Until our militia stopped them in their tracks
At the old North Bridge we turned them back
And chased those Redcoats back to Boston town

And the shot heard 'round the world
Was the start of the Revolution
The Minutemen were ready, on the move
Take your powder, and take your gun
Report to General Washington
Hurry men, there's not an hour to lose!

Now, at famous Bunker Hill
Even though we lost, it was quite a thrill
The rebel Colonel Prescott proved he was wise
Outnumbered and low on ammunition
As the British stormed his position
He said, "Hold your fire until you see the whites of their eyes!"

Though the next few years were rough
General Washington's men proved they were tough
Those hungry, ragged boys would not be beat
One night they crossed the Delaware
Surprised the Hessians in their lair
And at Valley Forge they just bundled up their feet!

And the shot heard 'round the world
Was the start of the Revolution
The Minutemen were ready, on the move
Take your blanket, and take your son
Report to General Washington
We've got our rights and now it's time to prove

Well, they showed such determination
That they won the admiration
Of countries across the sea like France and Spain
Who loaned the colonies ships and guns
And put the British on the run
And the Continental Army on its feet again

And though they lost some battles too
The Americans swore they'd see it through
Their raiding parties kept up, hit and run
At Yorktown the British could not retreat
Bottled up by Washington and the French Fleet
Cornwallis surrendered and finally we had won!

The winner!

Hurray!

From the shot heard 'round the world
To the end of the Revolution
The continental rabble took the day
And the father of our country
Beat the British there at Yorktown
And brought freedom to you and me and the U.S.A.!

God bless America, let freedom ring!"

Posted by: Sapwolf at January 12, 2020 07:49 PM (nuv3n)

119
What's the best possible outcome for a large public 2nd Amendment rally in Richmond?

People already know the potential downside -- possible ambush by a leftist mob with police protection, false-flag, media hatchet job etc.

But if everything went perfectly -- in what ways will the cause be advanced? What are legislators in the capital, or people watching at hone, going to do differently as a result?

The Left is vicious and crazy. They prove it every day. If they are bound and determined to turn this into a shit show, what's going to stop them?

This is their turf, they control the cops, they control the mainstream media, they have no principles, and they've had months to prepare.

I hope it goes well, I really do. But this adversary, in this situation...

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 12, 2020 07:50 PM (t5m5e)

120 If this push is the deliberate provocation that many think it is, things will evolve faster than you would like. A good example is state and local governments staffing up to browse social media and file red flag orders. This is happening now, in other states; they're being used as a tool to put the boot to people's necks.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:40 PM (67XdO)

Yup, just found out my medical records, with my Local Doc, are now on the Google Cloud, and thus under the agreements, can be accessed by Google.

Now, under the law, you have no expectation of Privacy once it goes into third party hands.

And the Federal and State Governments can and do get access to LOTS of data through Google.

So, lets just say I had PTSD in my record (which I do not). Calif already has a Red Flag Law, and has ACTIVLY been asking the Vet Dept. about anyone who has PTSD.

Some assembly required, but the future is pretty clear UNLESS the Supreme Court steps in.

Which, they have not.

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:50 PM (NgKpN)

121 Catch, I look forward to meeting you.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 07:51 PM (yIBke)

122 Hey!!! Technically I am a Floridian. A Floridian who has spent the majority of his life in New York.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:37 PM (ZfBVE)


Make sure you bring the salsa.
New York makes the best.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:51 PM (1g7ch)

123 Shipped to an FFL. It may have changed in 2020. I was not kidding about kids/college. SG Ammo cut off California.

His business, his decision. I just don't like it. I kept quiet through the plugs last couple weeks. I'll resume being quiet. Since the canoe accident...

Posted by: nip at January 12, 2020 07:52 PM (cpS4u)

124 55 For those of you thinking an infringement of gun rights is no big deal, how do you like your freedom of speech, your ability to choose your own religion, or anything else.


***

And make no mistake, these will be next.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2020 07:23 PM (axyOa)


...and a 2, and a 1, and a none.

Posted by: Lawrence Welk's Communist cousin at January 12, 2020 07:52 PM (EL4ni)

125 Everyone quit shipping to CA, mail order ammo is banned there. Face to face retail only with background checks (about 1/4 of which have been wrongly denied since they started doing that)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 12, 2020 07:45 PM (67XdO)

Running about 40% denial locally here.

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 12, 2020 07:52 PM (NgKpN)

126 Florida DemCong introduced about forty anti-gun bills this year.

I am starting to wonder if that is typical behavior in every state.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 07:53 PM (1g7ch)

127 Panhandler, will keep that it mind. Can never say no to pastries, my waistline can tell you that. LOL
As far as Weasel said about stocking up on ammo I purchased 1,000 rounds of 9mm that I hope to pick up next weekend. And I will gradually buy more.You never know what NY and NYC might do.
I am even tempted the next time I take a road trip down to FLA to pick up some ammo down there.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:53 PM (ZfBVE)

128 Let me reiterate Weasel's caution about getting ammo now. Hell, I say it every week anyway. Ammo is a lifeline these fucking bastards will try to choke off.

Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 07:53 PM (7EjX1)

129 Will be driving in to the TXMoMe to bring my toys and gear and liquor. Reservations made!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:54 PM (Y4EXg)

130 Make sure you bring the salsa. New York makes the best.

It's the water.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (EgshT)

131 I took two of my female employees to the range last week during our lunch hour. First time for both of them. Shot the G19. They hit the target and got better every turn. One of them's favorite movie is John Wick. Had to slow her down a few times . Would have quickly emptied a magazine into the target if allowed to.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (2DOZq)

132 Total impulse buy after Christmas was a Heritage single action .22LR. Yea, I know some will say it's cheap and they're owned by Taurus but it's gonna be a fun paper puncher. Supposed to be able to get a .22WMR cylinder for it for under 30 bucks but the online store isn't up. We'll see.

My ammo order came in at the office, personal inventory levels are up from this time last year.

Posted by: IP - Still a dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (gPZ9i)

133 Make sure you bring the salsa.

New York makes the best.

I find that hard to believe, besides I am of Irish decent, what do I know about salsa? LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)

134 When they start using European "hate speech " laws your see your 1st Amendment rights go right down the toilet.

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (ZCEU2)

135 I took two of my female employees to the range last week during our lunch hour. First time for both of them. Shot the G19. They hit the target and got better every turn. One of them's favorite movie is John Wick. Had to slow her down a few times . Would have quickly emptied a magazine into the target if allowed to.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (2DOZq)
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Excellent! I wish everyone would make a point to do this. Good job!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (MVjcR)

136 Scuba_Dude and Catch Thirty-Thr33

Ben Had has a heart as big as Texas. And a deep pool of friends that help her pull off an awesome party. For the rest --OPSEC.

The assembled Horde are some of the best people you would ever want to meet and talk with, drink with, learn shooting tips, shoot with, and party with.
The bacon wenches alone are worth the price of attendance. Right, Weasel

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (u82oZ)

137 Will be driving in to the TXMoMe to bring my toys and gear and liquor. Reservations made!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:54 PM (Y4EXg)
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Yes, I plan to drive also and bring a few bang sticks, myself.

And if I get the .243 straightened out, I may sign up for Weasel Accuracy Unlimited, ltd.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)

138 But if everything went perfectly -- in what ways will the cause be advanced?

It proves to people, visually, that they are not alone and that the media narrative that gun bans are universally accepted is wrong.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (2lndx)

139 My Kestrel Elite had me shooting high at 1000yd so I figured out how to trick it into calibrating the correct dial-up by manipulating the G7 BC. Hornady had the BC listed at .253 and I got it to shoot dead on at .307BC. I got home and Hornady had updated the BC in January to .291 so I'm close.
3 Shots at the MV calc distance @ 1075 were spot on. Shots at 855, 650 and 450 were calced correctly in supersonic in the Kestrel so glad I figured that out.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (bttOm)

140 I just noticed - the TxMoMe will be held on UN Day.

Our TX brethern and sisteren sticking it to the man!!

LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (Y4EXg)

141 I find that hard to believe, besides I am of Irish decent, what do I know about salsa? LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)


The Irish invented salsa.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (t+qrx)

142 The bacon wenches alone are worth the price of attendance. Right, Weasel
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (u82oZ)
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I do love the Bacon Wench!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (MVjcR)

143 Seems like these don't have much hope of surviving constitutional scrutiny, particularly when Ginsberg does under for the last time and they're down to 8 on the court, only 3 of them reliable lefties

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (KZzsI)

144 Excellent! I wish everyone would make a point to do this. Good job!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (MVjcR)

Weasel, that is something I intend to do once I have become more proficient. The people at work that know I have a firearms license I have told that if they ever want to go to the range with me I will be more than happy to take them and show them that shooting is loads of fun and SAFE if you follow the rules.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (ZfBVE)

145 I think Trump's narrow win can partly be attributed to his rallies proving that getting out and voting might not be pointless.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (2lndx)

146
Let me reiterate Weasel's caution about getting ammo now. Hell, I say it every week anyway. Ammo is a lifeline these fucking bastards will try to choke off.
Posted by: JTB


Everybody thought it was funny when Chris Rock called for a $5000 per bullet tax. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (aKsyK)

147 Seems like these don't have much hope of surviving constitutional scrutiny, particularly when Ginsberg does under for the last time and they're down to 8 on the court, only 3 of them reliable lefties
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (KZzsI)


They only need to last long enough to get a stack of confiscations and convictions before they finally end up with a test case that goes all the way up.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:00 PM (t+qrx)

148 Similar Communist activity in Washington state as in Virginia.

Some of my time will be protesting in Olympia, some time will be planning worst case scenarios.

Actually, the second part has already started.

I have zero faith that the Communists give two shits about the Constitution, be it Federal or State.

They should. For their sake.

Posted by: Lawrence Welk's Communist cousin at January 12, 2020 08:00 PM (EL4ni)

149 Weasel, that is something I intend to do once I have become more proficient. The people at work that know I have a firearms license I have told that if they ever want to go to the range with me I will be more than happy to take them and show them that shooting is loads of fun and SAFE if you follow the rules.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (ZfBVE)
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That's great! We did a whole thread on the topic of taking non-shooters to the range last summer.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:01 PM (MVjcR)

150 Everybody thought it was funny when Chris Rock called for a $5000 per bullet tax. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 07:59 PM (aKsyK)

I wonder what a box of 50 9mm would go for on the black market.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:01 PM (2DOZq)

151 Except for the nice clothes and clean hair, that SureFire vid looked a lot like a warm and diverse summer weekend in Chicago.
Posted by: Syzygy
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Except, and I'm guessing, the SureFire folk were probably 100% on-target with each round..

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:01 PM (CDGwz)

152 Stephen Price Blair, Happy New Year to You.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:02 PM (yIBke)

153 America was born of violence.

America has survived through violence.

Yet generations have been carefully taught that such violence is not only regrettable, but fundamentally evil.

They don't understand that rights may be God given, but they may only be kept through violence (or at least the implicit threat of violence.)

Take away the implicit threat of violence that the 2A codifies, and ALL other rights go straight out the window. God given or not.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 12, 2020 08:02 PM (Ct55T)

154 And a one and a two, now go away.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (EL4ni)

155 When they start using European "hate speech " laws your see your 1st Amendment rights go right down the toilet.
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2020 07:56 PM (ZCEU2)


One of the retired SCOTUS Judges in an interview suggested attacking the 2nd Amendment by restricting the 1st -> outlaw the NRA and other gun lobbying groups.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (1g7ch)

156 132 ... "Total impulse buy after Christmas was a Heritage single action .22LR. Yea, I know some will say it's cheap and they're owned by Taurus but it's gonna be a fun paper puncher."

IP,
The Heritage Rough Riders are decent plinking revolvers. I have two. Don't let the price influence you. And you used the word most often associated with the Rough Riders: fun.

Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (7EjX1)

157 Classes available from outside the big names:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/te7qeum
https://preview.tinyurl.com/tyful68

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (0ReGO)

158 You only own what you can hold.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (yQpMk)

159 Let me reiterate Weasel's caution about getting ammo now.

Wait until Tuesday before driving the prices up! Since I just picked up a new caliber I'll be putting in a big order tomorrow. Going through the house right now making sure my ammo count is correct.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 08:03 PM (2lndx)

160 133 Make sure you bring the salsa.

New York makes the best.

I find that hard to believe, besides I am of Irish decent, what do I know about salsa? LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)


To quote an old Pace Picante Sauce tv ad, when it's discovered the cook on a trail-drive is using picante sauce made in New York City:

"New York City?!?! Get a rope!"

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (AMIL/)

161 I live 40 minutes from SG but its online sales only

Posted by: Priapism at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (ucNdt)

162 Happy New Year Ben Had!

I will try not to bring a mostly empty 30-30 box next MoMe!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (2lndx)

163 I live 40 minutes from SG but its online sales only
Posted by: Priapism at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (ucNdt)


Good comment/nick combo.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (t+qrx)

164 141 I find that hard to believe, besides I am of Irish decent, what do I know about salsa? LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfBVE)

The Irish invented salsa.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 07:58 PM (t+qrx)

A bunch of welsh cattlemen sitting around a campfire, reading the jar, exclaiming, "Baille atha Cliath?!?!!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (Ct55T)

165 Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 12, 2020 08:02 PM (Ct55T)

Western civilization or more specifically Judeo-Christian philosophy drastically reduced Might Makes Right as a way of life. It definitely can make a come back. ( Mexico is living it now )

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:05 PM (2DOZq)

166 Weasel - I've Gisselle GS2 triggers in both my 6.5 Grendel and my 300 Blackout I "built". That's what convinced me to hunt for a good price on the SAA. Nothing is cheap anymore, but sometimes you can find a decent price on things if you aren't in a hurry. I'll probably spent the next 10 -12 months finding all the pieces I want to use with this build

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:06 PM (+5UIx)

167 Also, in regards to me getting a rifle. I just may have to hold off buying one for a bit.Some other priorities have been popping up so that purchase is being pushed back.Because I live in NYC I am going to keep with getting a bolt action chambered most likely in .308. That way there is less chance of the City getting its knickers in a bunch.
I am worried about this push by the power crazed Left to do everything possible to destroy our 2A Rights. With NY State now having a Dem majority in both chambers and a tyrannical Governor ( who probably admired Mussolini) I would not be surprised for more anti 2A legislation being shoved through.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:07 PM (ZfBVE)

168 Got Mrs. Hades one of those undershirts with the holster built in and she was wearing it today. She likes it and I have to say I couldn't tell she was carrying at all, but the magazine pouches need to be a bit deeper.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 08:08 PM (ZXnzo)

169 NaCly Dog, I figure the TXMoMe is going to be a blast.I am looking forward to meeting all of you.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:08 PM (ZfBVE)

170 I'll be watching the news closely tomorrow to see what happens at the NRA lobby day in Richmond. I'll be there next Monday and I'l trying to decide my best course of action.

I can't enter the GA building armed. But there is little point talking to my two Marxist GA legislators. They are gun control radicals.

Many dire predictions of mayhem so I'm apprehensive about going unarmed.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 12, 2020 08:10 PM (V65Kl)

171 It will be interesting to see if the music finally starts to play.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)

172 NaCly Dog

I forgot to add in the line extolling the Horde, "And then there is me." I have to overcome my shyness to attend. The best one-word description is joyful.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (u82oZ)

173 I couldn't tell she was carrying at all
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What size pistol?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (xSo9G)

174 171 It will be interesting to see if the music finally starts to play.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)

I'm guessing it will sound a lot like Sabaton.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (NWiLs)

175 Oops. That was to go to Scuba_Dude. Sigh.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (u82oZ)

176 Scuba_Dude, the MoMe will once again be on a large cattle ranch with very few neighbors. Corsicana is very small town.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:13 PM (yIBke)

177
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:04 PM (AMIL/)
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Howdy Gref!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:13 PM (MVjcR)

178 I DID get to the range, and it was very good. Good for the soul.

This week's drill was 'single shot to the head'. The focus was on getting the natural point of aim identified and being able to put the gun on target and put a single shot through the head to put down a bad person.

After 50 rounds of full power rounds, I switched the upper back to .22 and did Mozambique drills at 5 and 7 yards.

A good day at the range. I'm looking forward to buying the Glock 44.

And I bought more ammo this week.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)

179 Oops. That was to go to Scuba_Dude. Sigh.
I've heard of introverted but you just took the cake.

Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (S/rwf)

180 176 Scuba_Dude, the MoMe will once again be on a large cattle ranch with very few neighbors. Corsicana is very small town.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:13 PM (yIBke
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No shit. Highlight of the year.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (MVjcR)

181 168 Got Mrs. Hades one of those undershirts with the holster built in and she was wearing it today. She likes it and I have to say I couldn't tell she was carrying at all, but the magazine pouches need to be a bit deeper.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 08:08 PM (ZXnzo


Sounds interesting! Got a link, please?

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 08:15 PM (87gB3)

182
A good day at the range. I'm looking forward to buying the Glock 44.

And I bought more ammo this week.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
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Good man. Keep it up!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (MVjcR)

183 174 171 It will be interesting to see if the music finally starts to play.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)

I'm guessing it will sound a lot like Sabaton.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (NWiLs)

Oh please, oh please, oh please....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (d1uFV)

184 Hi Gref!

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (yIBke)

185 Salty, I hope we can make it to the TxMoMe and see you again!

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 08:17 PM (87gB3)

186 Corsicana is about 2 1/2 hours from Houston so could be a day trip.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

187 Weasel, see what you have done!

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (yIBke)

188 Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2020 08:17 PM (87gB3)
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Hope you can make it, Emmie!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (MVjcR)

189 187 Weasel, see what you have done!
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:18 PM (yIBke)
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Surely they won't all want to eat!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:19 PM (MVjcR)

190 Ben Had, can't say I have ever been on a cattle ranch. Being a suburban/city boy I think the closest I have ever been to cattle has either been when my parents moved back to Florida before the area around Orlando was built up in the 80's and their were cattle across the road from their development, or when I visited Catch Thirty The33 in Amarillo and we drove by a HUGE amount of cattle not to far from where he lived.So think of me as Billy Crystal in City Slickers, though not as short and less funny. LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:20 PM (ZfBVE)

191 Sebastion, easily done and you will have a great time.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:20 PM (yIBke)

192 This week's drill was 'single shot to the head'. The focus was on getting the natural point of aim identified and being able to put the gun on target and put a single shot through the head to put down a bad person.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
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I had an issue with getting the 1911 to point properly, but, that's been straightened out.

For whatever reason, I was letting the front sight ride a bit high with the Kimber, though I was doing just fine with my Sig.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:21 PM (WEBkv)

193 132 Don't be ashamed of that little Heritage revolver. It does what it's supposed to do, let you have a little fun plinking at a tin can or whatever. The more I look at mine, the more I wonder how the hell they make them for the price. Now, on a serious note. I've had the itch for an AR pistol, with brace. Went to look at another one this week, and sure enough, the guy had "Built" it. Trouble is he started with a rifle lower, thus making it a non registered short barreled rifle. I wish they would get rid of that bit of stupidity. Anyway, picking up a Ruger factory AR pistol tomorrow, with brace. Needs sights, I'll figure out what I want.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (C1Lsn)

194 Weasel, I have no worries about feeding a Horde.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (yIBke)

195 183 174 171 It will be interesting to see if the music finally starts to play.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:11 PM (d1uFV)

I'm guessing it will sound a lot like Sabaton.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (NWiLs)

Oh please, oh please, oh please....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:16 PM (d1uFV)


More like Enter Sandman.

With the bass very loud.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (EL4ni)

196 192 This week's drill was 'single shot to the head'. The focus was on getting the natural point of aim identified and being able to put the gun on target and put a single shot through the head to put down a bad person.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:14 PM (d1uFV)
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I had an issue with getting the 1911 to point properly, but, that's been straightened out.

For whatever reason, I was letting the front sight ride a bit high with the Kimber, though I was doing just fine with my Sig.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:21 PM (WEBkv)

I haven't found 1911's to be very 'point-able' for me, for whatever reason. But that single action trigger covers a wide variety of sins.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)

197 Hi Weasel! Thanks for the good threads each Sunday.

Two questions for everyone tonite:

What are the dates of the TxMoMe?

Looking for recommendations/suggestions for carrying while driving, either on-person or in the vehicle. I just got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and there are lots of concealed or semi-concealed placement options. Guns: Either a 5-round, 3-inch barrel .357 revolver, or a Sig P229, or a Sig P320 compact. (And maybe all!) Thanks!

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)

198 194 Weasel, I have no worries about feeding a Horde.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (yIBke)
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I would only trust you and your staff to do it!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (MVjcR)

199 O, Giggles has enlisted me to give some basic firearm handling instruction to a couple female type friends of hers. I can explain to my godson, who IS on the spectrum, how to be safe and controlled and he listens. I can do this. 'Cept one of 'em is extremely spathic. What could go wrong?

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (+5UIx)

200 Ben Had, can't say I have ever been on a cattle ranch.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:20 PM (ZfBVE)


Last year was the first time I'd been on one.

It's a lot like a lawn, only bigger.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (t+qrx)

201 I'll do this backwards. Gun stuff, then law stuff.

Guy at work and I start talking about the gun laws (it was up on my screen) and I find out he is gun friendly. And he just built an AR15 pistol. And he decided to do .300 Blackout instead so now he has an extra pistol upper in 5.56. Do I want it? Like for free. Umm, YES. I WANT IT. And because guys have a code of honor, can't take something of real value totally free, I purchased some packaged adult beverages, not nearly the value of a complete upper but now I don't feel guilty.

So now I have to procure a pistol lower. PSA has them very cheap, and turns out a very close gunstore is one of two preferred vendors for PSA, so I can just select that on checkout. This is good news.

Since I was in that gunstore to ask about their transfer policies, I picked up 5 boxes of 9. Because I can't get it at Walmart anymore.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (ZfRYq)

202 I have zero faith that the Communists give two shits about the Constitution, be it Federal or State.



They should. For their sake.

Posted by: Lawrence Welk's Communist cousin at January 12, 2020 08:00 PM (EL4ni)


The Dems have gone full communist now. They don't even try to hide it any more. They are out and proud commies and the worst thing is how many mental defectives support that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (j0/GV)

203 Hi Ben Had!!! Did you get through the storm on Friday OK?

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (AMIL/)

204 More like Enter Sandman.

With the bass very loud.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (EL4ni)


I thought we'd decided it was "Red Rubber Ball".

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:24 PM (t+qrx)

205 Since we are past 200.....help an uneducated ette out? Pretty please!

Diamondback?

Snagless sight on Sig 365?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:25 PM (/UQ/R)

206 Gref, Oct 23/24th at the same place as last year.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:25 PM (yIBke)

207
Looking for recommendations/suggestions for carrying while driving, either on-person or in the vehicle. I just got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and there are lots of concealed or semi-concealed placement options. Guns: Either a 5-round, 3-inch barrel .357 revolver, or a Sig P229, or a Sig P320 compact. (And maybe all!) Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)
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I have a sturdy zippered bag that I think started out as a fanny pack but which also has a shoulder strap. I can fit three handguns and ammo in that, and it rides on the passenger seat when I go back and forth to the farm,

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

208 Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)

I drive a Wrangler and the space between the passenger seat and the center console is a perfect fit for my Glock 19 and Uncle Mike inside the pants holster. Sits up perfectly for easy access.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (2DOZq)

209 I haven't found 1911's to be very 'point-able' for me, for whatever reason. But that single action trigger covers a wide variety of sins.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)
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For me, it was a matter of identifying then correcting the problem.

It was a bad habit I'd developed that needed to be changed.

It happens.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (WEBkv)

210 Gref, I did and Thank You for asking.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (yIBke)

211
It's a lot like a lawn, only bigger.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (t+qrx)
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With cows.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

212 Looking for recommendations/suggestions for carrying while driving, either on-person or in the vehicle. I just got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and there are lots of concealed or semi-concealed placement options. Guns: Either a 5-round, 3-inch barrel .357 revolver, or a Sig P229, or a Sig P320 compact. (And maybe all!) Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)

For a 'car gun' you can go a little larger than for concealed carry. A magnum revolver isn't a bad choice or a big .45 (the latter is my car gun).

FX 45
Glock 20 or 21
XD45

If you want to go 9mm, the SIG P320 is reliable, though mine is a full size. The 226 or the AREX Zero One also makes a good car gun.

I'd only go with the compact models if storage is a problem or if you would use the same pistol for concealed carry as well as a car gun.

Just my $.02

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:27 PM (d1uFV)

213 With cows.
Posted by: Weasel
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Pies? Are there pies?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:27 PM (xSo9G)

214 Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 12, 2020 08:02 PM (Ct55T)



That's pretty much the truth of the matter.

The commies are only trying this because they believe they will survive the attempt. Pretty much the same way no one believes the US will ever use nukes on our enemies again.

Posted by: Methos at January 12, 2020 08:28 PM (kOpft)

215 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:27 PM (d1uFV)

Thank you for the info and recommendations, sir!

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:28 PM (AMIL/)

216 Emmie

You and Mr. Bassman were grace notes on your way through my area. I was so happy to meet you.

Looking forward to more fun.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 08:28 PM (u82oZ)

217 Weasel, and Horses

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (yIBke)

218 Let me reiterate Weasel's caution about getting ammo now. Hell, I say it every week anyway. Ammo is a lifeline these fucking bastards will try to choke off.
Posted by: JTB

Ok; that's the 2nd time I've heard you cuss.

Have you been drinkin' outta Kallisto's jug ?

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (arJlL)

219 I have a sturdy zippered bag that I think started out as a fanny pack but which also has a shoulder strap. I can fit three handguns and ammo in that, and it rides on the passenger seat when I go back and forth to the farm,
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

Weasel, that's called a purse. Or a man bag.

But don't worry, I have one, too. LL Bean, to go along with my Earth Shoes.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (Ukac2)

220 205 Since we are past 200.....help an uneducated ette out? Pretty please!

Diamondback?

Snagless sight on Sig 365?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:25 PM (/UQ/R)

I would say 'no' in the Diamondback

Snagless SIG 365 has mixed reviews, it does not seem to be an improvement over the normal or compact P320.

For small pistols, look at SIG 365 or Springfield Armory Hellcat, just put a few boxes of ammo through to make sure you didn't get a lemon.

or if money is a problem, go with the Taurus G2C. Seriously. Great pistol for $200.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (d1uFV)

221 With cows.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)


Oh yeah.

Cows with no self-preservation instinct, should one decide to go trap shooting with Helena Handbasket.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (t+qrx)

222 Geez Gref - sorry! I thought you were asking what to carry them in!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (MVjcR)

223 213 With cows.
Posted by: Weasel

And horses.

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (AMIL/)

224 Gunga la gunga !

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (arJlL)

225 In Texas you need cows on your acreage to avoid high property taxes. I guess horses work too.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (2DOZq)

226
Weasel, that's called a purse. Or a man bag.

But don't worry, I have one, too. LL Bean, to go along with my Earth Shoes.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:29 PM (Ukac2)
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Yep! I like to accessorize nicely!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

227 ...Trouble is he started with a rifle lower, thus making it a non registered short barreled rifle. I wish they would get rid of that bit of stupidity. Anyway, picking up a Ruger factory AR pistol tomorrow, with brace. Needs sights, I'll figure out what I want.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (C1Lsn)


So with a mil-spec M-4 stock, how short a barrel can we go and still have a std rifle? (by federal stds)

How long a barrel can we go and still have a pistol?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (1g7ch)

228 The two main elected critters agitating for gun control in VA:
Dick Saslaw, Virginia State Senator and author of pending gun confiscation legislation...
Eileen Filler-Corn, Virginia State Speaker and notorious gun-control extremist.
Plus a lot of Soros monies in the last VA electoral campaign....
Yup, the usual bed fouling, self-hating schümers with schiff for brain.

It won't end well. Never has.

Posted by: wontsubmit at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (122Gu)

229

And horses.
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:30 PM (AMIL/)
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And the Dali llama.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (MVjcR)

230 Late to the thread, Weasel. Power was off so took Mrs. E out to eat. Like to suggest that you Americans who live in Virginia move to Texas. If you have to sell your properties to yankees at obscene profit levels.

Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (UUkQp)

231 Looking for recommendations/suggestions for carrying while driving, either on-person or in the vehicle. I just got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and there are lots of concealed or semi-concealed placement options. Guns: Either a 5-round, 3-inch barrel .357 revolver, or a Sig P229, or a Sig P320 compact. (And maybe all!) Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:22 PM (AMIL/)
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Depending on where you live, it isn't a bad idea to carry a rifle to accompany the pistol, because, sometimes a pistol isn't going to get the job done.

Though I don't do this, due to where I live, I have pockets behind the seats in my truck that would be an ideal place to stash a pistol that would be ready to hand.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (WEBkv)

232 Mercifully the power has gone out and stayed out. Hoping for a different Seahawks team the 2nd half but won't follow the game. Surprise me Russell! Reading by hurricane lamp

Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 08:33 PM (Aj7Zq)

233 So with a mil-spec M-4 stock, how short a barrel can we go and still have a std rifle? (by federal stds)

How long a barrel can we go and still have a pistol?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (1g7ch)


It depends on what it started life as, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:33 PM (t+qrx)

234 So with a mil-spec M-4 stock, how short a barrel can we go and still have a std rifle? (by federal stds)

How long a barrel can we go and still have a pistol?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:31 PM (1g7ch)

I think 16" is min barrel length. Some mfgs get a little sneaky with shorter barrels + flash hider. Honestly, go with the longest barrel you can shoot well. 5.56 really loves longer barrel lengths.

For pistols, no upper limit that I know of. It can't have a 'stock' or a fore-end since it has to be shootable with one hand to be a 'pistol'.

I do have an AR pistol, without a real stock but a padded buffer tube for a cheekrest. With a red dot, it's pretty easy to use! But I mostly have it because people don't want me to.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (d1uFV)

235 Now Virginia law stuff.

Lobby days. sra blaster and I are going on the 20th. Any NoVa morons interested in carpooling see if you can raise me here. Right now, we have room for 2 pax.

As to the showing up with guns at the Lobby Day, the General Assembly passed and Governor Blackface has already signed a law making the capitol area a gun-free zone. So carrying, concealed or open, in those areas (the Capitol building and some other office buildings nearby including the legislative office building and I think the grounds) is a felony. So there's that.

The laws being passed are straight up harassment for gun owners. This is NOT about safety. Like the gunfree zone at the capitol - they passed that first specifically because of the lobby days.

Also, one not listed in Weasel's list above is a prohibition on indoor gun ranges in buildings where there are more than 50 employees (when the employees are less than 90% law enforcement officers). Heard the proponent of the law saying that "people should not get used to carry guns and ammunition into buildings where people work." (eerie foreshadowing music on concealed carry)

The only indoor range in the state that this would affect is the range at NRA HQ (where I go to shoot). A place I am pretty sure people are used to carrying guns into and out of. But I digress. This law is narrowly written to impact the NRA.

These people are out to rub our faces in it. And they don't care that the masks are off - the masks are off.

They do not fear reprisal at the ballot box, either.




Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (ZfRYq)

236 230 Late to the thread, Weasel. Power was off so took Mrs. E out to eat. Like to suggest that you Americans who live in Virginia move to Texas. If you have to sell your properties to yankees at obscene profit levels.
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (UUkQp)
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Howdy Amigo! Yep. Need to keep my options open!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (MVjcR)

237 136 Scuba_Dude and Catch Thirty-Thr33

Ben Had has a heart as big as Texas. And a deep pool of friends that help her pull off an awesome party. For the rest --OPSEC.

The assembled Horde are some of the best people you would ever want to meet and talk with, drink with, learn shooting tips, shoot with, and party with.
The bacon wenches alone are worth the price of attendance. Right, Weasel
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 07:57 PM (u82oZ)

Let me assure you, oh canine of sodium chloride (and all others), I'll be bringing my modest collection with me as well.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (XZgzl)

238

It seems that the Left has learned its lesson quite well.

I count 11 separate bills. This means that, even if 1 of them is gutted or found unconstitutional, the other 10 are completely untouched ... and untouchable. A completely new suit must be filed, and that requires someone with standing, which requires ...

But, since all 11 will be passed by the same clown posse, can intent and/or conspiracy be argued in the first or any subsequent suit to add the remaining laws to the current suit?

And, while we're at it, can/why haven't any of the clowns who pass these laws be charged in Federal court for subverting/conspiracy to deny one or more the plaintiff's constitutional rights? I prefer "all" to "any", but one should get things started.

The state clowns may be protected from State prosecution, but not Federal prosecution.

Enquiring Minds Want To Know.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (FlRtG)

239 196 Mark, a long time ago, an old guy gave me some advice on guns pointing naturally. Pretend you have something with the grip angle of, say, a PO8 luger. Extend you index finger , close your eyes, point at a pre selected object. Now, close your eyes and point your finger with the hand in the natural position. The second time will be closer to the grip angle of a 1911 and should be pointing closer. While the canted angle of a luger, Glock, or the most engineered Remington 51 380 feel natural, it is not the angle of your hand as you bring it up to shoot.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (C1Lsn)

240 Live Free or Die

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (85Gof)

241 I like the loophole in the 34 Firearms Act that allows you to have a short barreled shotgun if you have a pistol grip. It's neither a shotgun or a pistol.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 12, 2020 08:35 PM (2DOZq)

242 Thank you MAE!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (/UQ/R)

243 It depends on what it started life as, too.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:33 PM (t+qrx)


Life has yet to begin (stripped lowers).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (1g7ch)

244 Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (ZfRYq)
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I left a couple out because it wasn't clear if they were still on the table, hence the qualifier after the list.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (MVjcR)

245 Speaking of gun grabbers:

Small showing for Bloomberg rally with Judge Judy despite campaign's big spending


Just 45 people showed up to Bloomberg's latest rally with TV star Judge Judy Sheindlin in Texas on Saturday, according to the New York Post.





"Unlike everyone else in this race, I think what's
important is beating Donald Trump," Bloomberg told the sparse crowd of
fewer than 50 people in San Antonio.







$200 million spent and he's getting smaller crowds than would watch Michael Moore sumo wrestle

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (j0/GV)

246 Depending on where you live, it isn't a bad idea to carry a rifle to accompany the pistol, because, sometimes a pistol isn't going to get the job done.

Though I don't do this, due to where I live, I have pockets behind the seats in my truck that would be an ideal place to stash a pistol that would be ready to hand.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:32 PM (WEBkv)

Thanks for the advice. I have one of those Mossberg BATF-legal "shorty" pump 12-ga shotguns that I'm thinking of stowing someplace. Not top on my list of projects yet.

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 08:37 PM (AMIL/)

247 I think 16" is min barrel length. Some mfgs get a little sneaky with shorter barrels + flash hider. Honestly, go with the longest barrel you can shoot well. 5.56 really loves longer barrel lengths.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:34 PM (d1uFV)


26" OAL is also the lower limit for a rifle before it becomes... something else. Not necessarily an SBR, probably not AOW. But not a rifle either.

I think. It's complicated.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

248

Damn, meant to bold the Just 45 people

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:37 PM (j0/GV)

249 watch Michael Moore sumo wrestle
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (j0/GV)

That is a revolting thought

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (85Gof)

250 NGU, sure hope to see you in Oct.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (yIBke)

251 242 Thank you MAE!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (/UQ/R)

NP, us Cyclones gotta stick together!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (d1uFV)

252 245 Gun grabbing Bloomberg should have been surprised to draw as many as 50 in Texas.

Posted by: rammajamma at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (xceTB)

253 So, how do I feel about Lobby Day(s) in VA?
Well, since you asked.
It feels just like I think Bostonians may have felt in the years-long run up to Concord.
Regardless of anyone's good or bad intentions, it is going to be a clusterf*ck that will be spun in the worst possible way by the PTB. Think Charlottesville to the Nth.
The only reason to attend is to be a part of history.
The Left is pushing this for a reason - they think they can win.
But then, I'm a little depressed right now. It could be unicorns with rainbows coming out their nether regions.
Did I say I'm depressed?

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (Ukac2)

254 The MoMee is going to be on a cattle ranch? Damn, not much of a change from my neighborhood!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (XZgzl)

255 NGU, sure hope to see you in Oct.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:38 PM (yIBke)

Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)

256 218 ... "Ok; that's the 2nd time I've heard you cuss.

Have you been drinkin' outta Kallisto's jug ?"

Hi JT,

LOL!! I cuss all the time but not usually on Ace. That's one reason I don't comment on the political threads very often. The roiling waters of vituperation can only be held back for so long by the dam of my self control. (I cuss and can be pretentious at the same time.)

Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (7EjX1)

257 Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (Ukac2)
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Too soon to start pestering you about a trip to Texas in October?

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

258 NGU, Congratulations and we won't be seeing you in Oct.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (yIBke)

259 Chew on that one, Pete.

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 12, 2020 08:42 PM (7ZQe3)

260 I think Lobby Days is a last attempt to use the first box, an attempt to influence the 2nd box.

Otherwise, 3rd and 4th box time.

Buy ammo. Buy guns. Cache both.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:42 PM (d1uFV)

261
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)
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That going to take the whole day?

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

262 And, loved ones, Weasel spake the truth on ammo. I get bulletins twice a week from SG Ammo have bought a buttload of stuff from them, consider them for all your bulk needs. I think they had 9mm brass case for around 17 cents apiece and .223 brass case for around 24 cents. Steel case is always cheaper but I only shoot that in strong like bull AK platforms or revolvers. As for 'hardware' do business with your local guy if you have one. If you have no shops where you live, consider moving to Texas. We are looking at another possible Alamo of our own and will have need of good Americans.

Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (UUkQp)

263 261
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)
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That going to take the whole day?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

Well you hate to miss the wedding night....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (d1uFV)

264 16" barrel, overall length of 24" constitutes a rifle. 18' barrel, 26"overall a shotgun. Then you get into the Shockwaves and such, and it's just a big can of worms. Fun fact. The gun control act passed in the 30s originally had an 18" barrel length for both rifles and shotguns. Rifles were changed to 16" because somebody said "Hey, we have a bunch of M1 carbines we have to sell". Also, the neatest little gun I ever saw was a 92 Winchester with 12" barrel. Fortunately, a curio and relic.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (C1Lsn)

265 Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding
Have they already booked a venue or is there time to set it up in Corsicana?

Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (S/rwf)

266 Well, later all.

Like RI Red, while I hope the VA legislature backs down, I don't think they will, because the keep doubling down with the statements they make.

Thanks again, Weasel, excellent job!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (WEBkv)

267 NGU, Congratulations and we won't be seeing you in Oct.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (yIBke)

Sigh.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (85Gof)

268 That going to take the whole day?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

Lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:45 PM (85Gof)

269 Buy ammo. Buy guns. Cache both.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Yep. Any pretense of pluralism is dead in this country.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 08:45 PM (Aj7Zq)

270 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks, bro.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:45 PM (MVjcR)

271 265
Well the one definite day I know I have booked is oct 24. My daughters wedding

Have they already booked a venue or is there time to set it up in Corsicana?

Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (S/rwf)

I think that would be an ultimate MoMe, have a wedding take place at one.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (ZfBVE)

272 Have they already booked a venue or is there time to set it up in Corsicana?
Posted by: Panhandler at January 12, 2020 08:44 PM (S/rwf)

Booked it while I was in NC. Lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (85Gof)

273 Godspeed to you Virginia patriots.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (H8QX8)

274 257 Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:39 PM (Ukac2)
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Too soon to start pestering you about a trip to Texas in October?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:41 PM (

Not at all, and probably necessary to keep my spirits up.
Did I mention that I'm depressed?

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (Ukac2)

275
"Unlike everyone else in this race, I think what's
important is beating Donald Trump," Bloomberg told the sparse crowd of
fewer than 50 people in San Antonio.


None of the other Dems want to beat Trump?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 08:47 PM (aKsyK)

276 Totally off topic, but I would like the Seahawks to actually show up for this game

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (+5UIx)

277
Not at all, and probably necessary to keep my spirits up.
Did I mention that I'm depressed?
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:46 PM (Ukac2)
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Consider your bad-self pestered.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (MVjcR)

278 I go for a walk at lunchtime on the capitol grounds. I plan on doing so tomorrow. I will provide a report.

Posted by: Guam tipper at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (FsgBK)

279 Among the things that are in those Virginia laws - all those pistols made out of rifles - AR, AK, SU/16, anything else that has a detachable magazine that is not in the pistol grip - are banned. I don't know if they are covered in the grandfather with registration that is being considered for other "assault firearms." Trying to decipher the way the bill is written (I used to regulatory compliance stuff so I am pretty good at deciphering and I just haven't had the time to analyze it because it is not straightforward) to determine whether the big Desert Eagles are covered because there is a bit in there about being >50 ounces.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (ZfRYq)

280 PDT must have pissed in bloombergers corn flakes years ago

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (85Gof)

281 278 I go for a walk at lunchtime on the capitol grounds. I plan on doing so tomorrow. I will provide a report.
Posted by: Guam tipper at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (FsgBK)
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That would be greatly appreciated!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (MVjcR)

282 Zod, if you're lurking...praying for you, demigod.

I'll be listening for the music.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)

283 280 PDT must have pissed in bloombergers corn flakes years ago
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 08:49 PM (85Gof)


I think he's been calling him Little Mike for a while.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:51 PM (ZfRYq)

284 Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:48 PM (ZfRYq)
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Been wondering the same thing.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

285 Wishing you all a good night and sweet dreams.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (yIBke)

286 JUDGE JUDY!

Now there is a plank in a presidential platform. How much are you paying your staff, Mike? Ye gods.

The Age of Stupid abides.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (JCrfD)

287 "I will absolutely guarantee you that extremists on the left are going to be there in number to start trouble and make the pro-gun side look like the aggressor in any confrontation."

This will happen regardless. If nothing happens, they'll make something up. I'm sure the Left (as well as the FBI) has already infiltrated the movement for the purpose of smearing, or worse.

We're always so concerned about how we'll look to the Left, or to the world according to the Left's caricatures and Narratives. The day is coming when this concern will hit the wall of reckoning.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (H8QX8)

288 Have a good night Ben Had!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (ZfBVE)

289 >>Gun grabbing Bloomberg should have been surprised to draw as many as 50 in Texas.
Posted by: rammajamma

Probably 20 of then had rotten vegetables with them.

Posted by: Aviator at January 12, 2020 08:53 PM (2cuLk)

290 285 Wishing you all a good night and sweet dreams.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2020 08:52 PM (yIBke)
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Good night, my friend. Let's talk soon.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

291 Insty linked a story from NZ that a guy had his house raided - not no-knock, but armed policemen at his door to search - for a 22LR lever action rifle because it had more than 10 round capacity, and he had posted on social media about owning it a year ago. He has since disposed of it (he says, doesn't say how, maybe the canoe, that's not really the point). But the cops came for it anyway. Because he had previously publicly posted that he owned it.

So take that lesson.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 08:55 PM (ZfRYq)

292 Mayor Bloomberg, or as I like to say, that sawed off little cocksucking demigod, probably threw a wrench in one of PDT's building projects, and Trump Legal broke it off in shorty's ass.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 12, 2020 08:56 PM (C1Lsn)

293 So, why am I depressed?
Glad you asked.
One reason is that I am this close >*
And I have a professional challenge next month that, for the first time in my life, I am not positive I will meet.
Third, because Lyndon Johnson and that damn war!
D, because I/we have little control over what happens next.
v., because, I forget.
v.a.1, because Texas hasn't seceded and I ain't there.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 08:57 PM (Ukac2)

294 Sorry, I was reading the content.
What size pistol?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (xSo9G)


Sig P365XL

Link: https://tinyurl.com/umnt3t6

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 08:57 PM (ZXnzo)

295 Well, finally. But late in the game. C'mon, 'hawks! Hey, concerning the TX MoMe, If I drive down (most likely, cause bringing stuff and maybe also AOP) can I use my truck tent for quarters? It'd save me some bucks

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (+5UIx)

296 294 Sorry, I was reading the content.
What size pistol?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2020 08:12 PM (xSo9G)
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You guys read the content?

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)

297 295 Well, finally. But late in the game. C'mon, 'hawks! Hey, concerning the TX MoMe, If I drive down (most likely, cause bringing stuff and maybe also AOP) can I use my truck tent for quarters? It'd save me some bucks

McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (+5UIx)
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I'll defer to Ben Had and our gracious hosts, but that's doable. You can even sleep in the horse trailer with Country Boy.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:00 PM (MVjcR)

298 Hi Mr Weasel,

Good luck in Virginia with the commies. I keep a very low social media profile due to opsec and persec and as it is mostly a fucking waste of life. I arrive in the land of the free? on Friday morning. Woo hoo.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (bgJ0E)

299 You guys read the content?
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)

If there are pictures of guns or naked vimen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (85Gof)

300 My former Mayor who I did vote for (please don't hate me, he was the lesser of 2 evils on the ballot) is showing that he is just another power hungry potential dictator. He truly thinks he is smarter than you and that it is the government that should make any and all decisions on how you live your life.
It was truly galling after the TX church shooting last week when after it showed that a good guy with a gun works he said that only the police should have guns. That blood thirsty little POS would have loved to have seen that gunman kill multitudes of innocent churchgoers.I hope he spends billions of his dollars and get NOTHING for it.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (ZfBVE)

301 Did someone mention naked vimen?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (d1uFV)

302 McGyver, I have seen others sleep in the back of their truck but you will need to confirm with Ben Had on this one.

Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (UUkQp)

303 Why is Suffolk county a hold out?

Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (w7KSn)

304
Good luck in Virginia with the commies. I keep a very low social media profile due to opsec and persec and as it is mostly a fucking waste of life. I arrive in the land of the free? on Friday morning. Woo hoo.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (bgJ0E)
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Hello NZFrank! And welcome back!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (MVjcR)

305 $200 million spent and he's getting smaller crowds than would watch Michael Moore sumo wrestle
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 08:36 PM (j0/GV)

Hell, I would pay to see that fat tub of goo get stomped by a real sumo.

Might even buy a beer or three.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (Z+IKu)

306 Formerly Nansemond counuty.

Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (w7KSn)

307
If there are pictures of guns or naked vimen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (85Gof)
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There's a boob up there in the flag.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

308 I arrive in the land of the free? on Friday morning. Woo hoo.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM


Safe travels, and welcome!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (rBtIz)

309 If there are pictures of guns or naked vimen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM (85Gof

I have a proposal - I think our 'ettes should model the VA state flag. And post pictures.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (Ukac2)

310 Okay, if there were a place for this, this might be a flaming skull with red headlines.

Northam said they were going to put in a grandfather clause on ownership of "assault firearms" that would allow those who already own one to continue legally owning it with registration.

THIS IS NOT IN THE BILL AS IT MARKED UP.

This would be what we in the business call a LIE.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (ZfRYq)

311 Tyrants got to tyrant.

Posted by: iandeal at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (vgGyZ)

312 MAE.......I forgot you are a Cyclone!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (/UQ/R)

313 And by the way shipmates, qualify at work tomorrow, wish me 'luck'. Gonna dowse the lantern in a bit.

Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (UUkQp)

314 303 Why is Suffolk county a hold out?
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:02 PM (w7KSn)
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Not sure but that area is reliably Dem. Probably the influence of colleges and universities.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:06 PM (MVjcR)

315 There's a boob up there in the flag.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR

Wow. Great minds, etc.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:07 PM (Ukac2)

316 Disappointing.
I grew up thereabouts.

Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:07 PM (w7KSn)

317 313 And by the way shipmates, qualify at work tomorrow, wish me 'luck'. Gonna dowse the lantern in a bit.
Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (UUkQp)
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Goodnight, brother.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:08 PM (MVjcR)

318 Weasel, that's called a purse. Or a man bag.


Puss pouch.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:08 PM (ZXnzo)

319 Ima call it quits for the night. by the time I get my teeth brushed the Seahawks will have lost. Oh, well. Hey, Weasel, ThanX! For doing this every week. I appreciate it a lot. Everyone else please stay safe and enjoy this next week!

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (+5UIx)

320 318 Weasel, that's called a purse. Or a man bag.


Puss pouch.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:08 PM (ZXnzo)
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I admit it!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (MVjcR)

321 There's a boob up there in the flag.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

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Just one. West Virginia must have gotten the other one in the divorce.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (XVuno)

322 And f*ck pixie up above.
>*
So, Never Mind.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (Ukac2)

323 The Lefties don't give a rat's ass about the Constitution, or the rule of law.

Publish every home address, and pictures of their spouses.

And their daily routines.

They gave up on the law a long time ago.

If you think voting will solve this, after the Lefties Lefties corrupt the voter rolls, you deserve the re-education camp that they will toss you into.

2020, according to the Left, is Zero year.

Your choice is to be a zero or a one.

No other options exist.

Not our call. Don't feel guilty.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (EL4ni)

324 Posted by: McGyver at January 12, 2020 09:09 PM (+5UIx)
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You're welcome, pal. Thanks for being here each week!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (MVjcR)

325 Almost time for the free militias to form once again.

Posted by: Christopher at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (/oFxO)

326 Ok, calling it a night.
Great thread as usual Weasel. Have a good night everyone!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZfBVE)

327 Some guys would pay good money to be stood on by a half topless chick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (XVuno)

328 Okay, spent the time to analyze the law as written. Semi-auto pistols with one of a number of characteristics are banned - and one of those characteristics is a manufactured weight of >50 ounces.

So big Desert Eagles are right out.

Another characteristic that makes a semi-auto pistol an "assault firearm" - a threaded barrel.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZfRYq)

329 Yes Virginia has gone from red to purple to blue
Norge Carolina is next
Texas is on the horizon

Posted by: Kurt at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (kX0vZ)

330 "that would allow those who already own one to continue legally owning it"
Awful fucking big of them.
And by the way shipmates, qualify at work tomorrow, wish me 'luck'. Gonna dowse the lantern in a bit.


Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2020 09:05 PM (UUkQp)


Good luck shipmate.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZXnzo)

331 Suffolk is a huge bedroom community to all the military bases around there.
But neighboring Chesapeake went Sanctuary.
Interesting

Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (w7KSn)

332 322 And f*ck pixie up above.
>*
So, Never Mind.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:10 PM (Ukac2)
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Well whatever the hell it is, good luck!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (MVjcR)

333
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:01 PM

Safe travels, and welcome!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 12, 2020 09:04 PM (rBtIz)

Thanks! and thank you Mr Weasel for the welcome. SHOT Show is going to be good. Maxim goes bang bang bang in 1.5 hours.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (bgJ0E)

334 326 Ok, calling it a night.
Great thread as usual Weasel. Have a good night everyone!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (ZfBVE)
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Thanks S_D! Glad to have you here.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)

335 327 Some guys would pay good money to be stood on by a half topless chick.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (XVuno)

Half topless meaning dual underboob, or one fully exposed boob?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:12 PM (NWiLs)

336 >>> 211
It's a lot like a lawn, only bigger.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 08:23 PM (t+qrx)
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With cows.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

Horses, too.

hormartin and I conducted an experiment with boomsticks, the results of which suggest that horses are *much* smarter than cows.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)

337 331 Suffolk is a huge bedroom community to all the military bases around there.
But neighboring Chesapeake went Sanctuary.
Interesting
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (w7KSn)
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Yeah - I've always wondered about that too.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (MVjcR)

338 Who invited the turd

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2020 09:15 PM (85Gof)

339 hormartin and I conducted an experiment with boomsticks, the results of which suggest that horses are *much* smarter than cows.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)


We were specifically told that the cows would wander off if we started shooting, but I was expecting that it would be *because* we started shooting, not just because they eventually got bored.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:15 PM (t+qrx)

340 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (0MzWm)

341 Yeah, it had to do with an unfulfilled long gun purchase, but evidently asterixes confuses pixy as badly as ampersands.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (Ukac2)

342 Half topless meaning dual underboob, or one fully exposed boob?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:12 PM (NWiLs)

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Both are featured on the menu.

Posted by: Markie De Sade's House of Discount Pain at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (XVuno)

343 296 ... "You guys read the content?"

Weasel,

Damn right! You give us valuable information every thread.

Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (7EjX1)

344 Future thread topic - how to bury the guns that didn't fall out of the canoe?

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)

345 Half topless meaning dual underboob, or one fully exposed boob?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

Can ya tell he's an attorney ?

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:17 PM (arJlL)

346 344 Future thread topic - how to bury the guns that didn't fall out of the canoe?
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)
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It's on the list! Was looking at cosmoline today.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:17 PM (MVjcR)

347 Future thread topic - how to bury the guns that didn't fall out of the canoe?
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq)


One school of thought says wrapped in cosmoline paper and sealed in PVC pipe.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:18 PM (t+qrx)

348 Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (7EjX1)
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You're too kind, JTB!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:18 PM (MVjcR)

349 Nyah?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Hiya Anna !

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (arJlL)

350 Seahawks ain't gone yet!


Marshawn Lynch!
Marshawn Lynch!
Marshawn Lynch!

It's like 2014 all over again!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (EL4ni)

351 Musical selections for the VA lobby day should start with "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

It's cheerful and disarming!

Posted by: Razell at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (2B4wA)

352 Posted by: JTB at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (7EjX1)

344 Future thread topic - how to bury the guns that didn't fall out of the canoe?
Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:16 PM (ZfRYq

JTB, you misspelled, how to dig up the guns that got buried.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (Ukac2)

353 345 Half topless meaning dual underboob, or one fully exposed boob?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

Can ya tell he's an attorney ?
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:17 PM (arJlL)

Heh. A testosterone-laden one at that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:20 PM (NWiLs)

354 ... "You guys read the content?"

Weasel,

Your threads are very well done !

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:20 PM (arJlL)

355 If you search for cosmoline on Amazon, this book shows up in the result:

How To Bury Your Goods: The Complete Manual of Long Term Underground Storage

Heh

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 09:21 PM (ZfRYq)

356
Your threads are very well done !
Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 09:20 PM (arJlL)
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Your standards are evidently lower than mine, but thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:21 PM (MVjcR)

357 *twitches and falls over*

Half topless? Tin Lizzie has a wardrobe malfunction.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:22 PM (0MzWm)

358 hormartin and I conducted an experiment with boomsticks, the results of which suggest that horses are *much* smarter than cows.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)


I originally read that as "broomsticks" with an "r" and I was wondering what the heck kind of experiment you two were running with the four-legged critters and how dangerous it was. I wasn't curious enough to ask, though! Some things are best left unknown.

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2020 09:22 PM (AMIL/)

359 JTB, you misspelled, how to dig up the guns that got buried.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:19 PM (Ukac2)


That's the other school of thought. Wondering about stashing them should be the wake-up that it's time to dig them up.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:22 PM (t+qrx)

360 I think you only bury if your cause is lost. At this point there hasn't been a point at which the cause has been truly contested.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:23 PM (Ukac2)

361 Half topless is good.

Posted by: Janet Jackson at January 12, 2020 09:24 PM (t+4uj)

362 How to bury random pieces of rebar in your yard...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 09:24 PM (1g7ch)

363 >>> 339 hormartin and I conducted an experiment with boomsticks, the results of which suggest that horses are *much* smarter than cows.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:14 PM (0ReGO)

We were specifically told that the cows would wander off if we started shooting, but I was expecting that it would be *because* we started shooting, not just because they eventually got bored.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:15 PM (t+qrx)

They wouldn't even help with the clay thrower. Lazy cows!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:25 PM (0ReGO)

364
They wouldn't even help with the clay thrower. Lazy cows!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:25 PM (0ReGO)
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We're gonna need better cows!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:26 PM (MVjcR)

365 364
They wouldn't even help with the clay thrower. Lazy cows!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:25 PM (0ReGO)
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We're gonna need better cows!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:26 PM (MVjcR)

Fetchez le vache...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

366 I have an AR that I have yet to put a round through, so I just put in an order for 6.8SPC.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:27 PM (ZXnzo)

367 Our cows sit on their asses all day long.

Posted by: DairyAir at January 12, 2020 09:27 PM (t+4uj)

368 It was fun, though. That thrower absolutely did not mess around. And we were kind of shooting off into space, which was new to me. I'd only ever shot on a trap range, where you have a feel for where the clay is going to be and how far it is.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (t+qrx)

369 One school of thought says wrapped in cosmoline paper and sealed in PVC pipe.
Posted by: hogmartin at January

With the pvc tube buried verticle for a smaller metal detector profile.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (Aj7Zq)

370 It was fun, though. That thrower absolutely did not mess around. And we were kind of shooting off into space, which was new to me. I'd only ever shot on a trap range, where you have a feel for where the clay is going to be and how far it is.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
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Space Force!!!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:29 PM (MVjcR)

371 Norge Carolina is next

Texas is on the horizon

Posted by: Kurt at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (kX0vZ)


I've always wanted to go to Norge Carolina. Maybe I'll do that after I go to Souge Carolina

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (BxOzf)

372 Well, this thread and this site remind me why life is good and worth defending.
Weasel, you pull more than your weight. May the gods let us all meet at Ms. Had's large lawn with cows.

Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (Ukac2)

373 With the pvc tube buried verticle for a smaller metal detector profile.
Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (Aj7Zq)
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Good tip!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (MVjcR)

374 Have not bought ammo in a while (reload), just a bit before the new idiotic law took effect, but very surprised to hear SG does not ship to CA. Thought they did? Poor decision on their part if true.

Shipments not banned. Ship to FFL (dunno if, even now, they have any actual procedures, official, from the state DOJ on how to handle this). Under current law I sold some ammo with the Mosin, FFL laughed and did a sign of the cross, sarcastically, when the buyer and I asked him about that part of the deal. That was late last year, maybe?

I think there's a non-trivial chance SCOTUS will eventually gut much of the idiotic law being imposed, contrary to the constitution and common sense, on many Americans today. But the judiciary is among the most fallen and corrupt institutions we have, so guarded pessimism is reasonable.

Imagine anything like the (effective) express protection of ARs in Heller being ignored, the way it is, by inferior courts and states, if it applied to Civil Rights Act matters. Or the entirely artificial and ridiculous marriage redefinition legislation by the "court". These things would be resolved within a week, tops.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (El6T/)

375 Space Force!!!
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:29 PM (MVjcR)


Somewhere, Eris is taking a shot and doesn't even know why.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (t+qrx)

376 SEA!

HAWKS!

SEA!

HAWKS!

SEA!

HAWKS!

28-23, 8 minutes left.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (EL4ni)

377 Thanks Weasel, for a most informative thread.

Looks like Op-Plan time.

And give my best to your classy bacon wench.

Did I just type that? Better go find the Castle Anthrax.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (u82oZ)

378 5 minutes left.

Russell has the ball

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (EL4ni)

379 372 Well, this thread and this site remind me why life is good and worth defending.
Weasel, you pull more than your weight. May the gods let us all meet at Ms. Had's large lawn with cows.
Posted by: RI Red at January 12, 2020 09:30 PM (Ukac2)
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Thank you, amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (MVjcR)

380 The 2A was written in a time when men had the balls to go against a fucking king. Now they don't have the balls to go against a slimy politician. The founders gave us the tools but without the balls the 2A is just words on a paper.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 12, 2020 09:32 PM (9Om/r)

381 377 Thanks Weasel, for a most informative thread.

Looks like Op-Plan time.

And give my best to your classy bacon wench.

Did I just type that? Better go find the Castle Anthrax.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 09:31 PM (u82oZ)
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Absolutely my pleasure, Salty. Happy to have you here pal.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (MVjcR)

382 Just remember to properly seal the tube ends or all you will pull out of the ground is gun-shaped rust.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0MzWm)

383 >>> 368 It was fun, though. That thrower absolutely did not mess around. And we were kind of shooting off into space, which was new to me. I'd only ever shot on a trap range, where you have a feel for where the clay is going to be and how far it is.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:28 PM (t+qrx)

Much fun.

We'll have to get Ben Had out there. ;P

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0ReGO)

384 Castle Anthrax?

*warms up spanking hand*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

385 Berserker-Dragonheads Division

♫ Making a list, and checking it twice. Who has been naughty or nice? ♬

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 09:34 PM (u82oZ)

386 Welp, it's time for my 9:30 Thank You to all of you. You make this fun, and I appreciate that.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:34 PM (MVjcR)

387 Done: 223, 22 lr, 45, 9mm

Posted by: Frankie at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (MSU3H)

388 Thanks for gunz, Weasel, as ever.

Still need to do my little experiment to determine how to make loading Mosins from stripper clips normal and proper (i.e. easy and fast). I know the soldati of Red Army loaded them quick/fast.

My current guess is the strength of the interrupter spring tension. Cartridges fit into the slot with ease and room to spare, leaving only the clips themselves or the interrupter as suspects.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (El6T/)

389 382 Just remember to properly seal the tube ends or all you will pull out of the ground is gun-shaped rust.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0MzWm)
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Home Depot carries surprisingly large diameter PVC pipe.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MVjcR)

390 Done

Posted by: Frankie at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MSU3H)

391 Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (El6T/)
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You are very welcome!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MVjcR)

392 Berserker nailed it.

I might expand, use different terms, but the key is: without an American mindset - American in a substantive historical sense, valuing individual freedom, having at least some knowledge of and respect for the constitution - our sacred paper is as meaningless as the laws and constitutions of dictatorships around the world.

Preliminary finding, but I kind of wonder if sufficient #s of Americans in this sense remain to repair the fallen institutions.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (El6T/)

393 My current guess is the strength of the interrupter
spring tension. Cartridges fit into the slot with ease and room to
spare, leaving only the clips themselves or the interrupter as suspects.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 12, 2020 09:35 PM (El6T/)


Load the stripper clips so all the rims overlap in the same direction IE each cartridge going down overlaps the one above. Then when you push them into the magazine the cartridges should angle up. That way the rim on the cartridge on top is in front of the next one down. Yes, the Mosin is supposed to have an interrupter that makes such stripper clip loading antics unnecessary...but it's disappointing how often that interrupter doesn't work.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (ZXnzo)

394
One school of thought says wrapped in cosmoline paper and sealed in PVC pipe.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 12, 2020 09:18 PM (t+qrx)

Negative. Vacuum seal packed (as in game meat storage for freezing), wrap in 200mph tape, then into a 25mm or 40mm ammo tin. Keep away from treelines, look for triangulation points , dig deep below normal rain incursion level. Cosmoline will degrade any plastic.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (bgJ0E)

395 Do you fill the pvc pipe with that moisture absorbing silica stuff?

Posted by: davidt at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (l3+k2)

396 what about shrink wrap

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (iTXRQ)

397 vacuum sealed

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (iTXRQ)

398 Remember to use gloves.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (bgJ0E)

399 Hey, guys. Just dropped in to tell you "Scandalous: Ruby Ridge" is coming up on Fox shortly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (ptqGC)

400 I hope and pray for peaceful resolution.
Thank you, Weasel, for the excellent thread.

Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (w7KSn)

401 397 vacuum sealed
Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (iTXRQ)

For sous vide

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (NWiLs)

402 395 Do you fill the pvc pipe with that moisture absorbing silica stuff?
Posted by: davidt at January 12, 2020 09:39 PM (l3+k2)
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Bag it, drop in desiccant packs (Amazon - bulk), then vacuum seal would be my guess.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:41 PM (MVjcR)

403 400 I hope and pray for peaceful resolution.
Thank you, Weasel, for the excellent thread.
Posted by: navybrat at large at January 12, 2020 09:40 PM (w7KSn)
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My pleasure navybrat. Thanks for being here.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:42 PM (MVjcR)

404 Home Depot carries surprisingly large diameter PVC pipe.
Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:36 PM (MVjcR)


Even sell it in precut 4 ft lengths. (4 inch)
Do note that std SCH40 and DVW are different diameters when you get to 4" pipe. Use SCH40, put a cap on one end and bushings on the other to fit a schroeder valve and you charge it up with nitrogen.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 09:42 PM (1g7ch)

405 Just remember to properly seal the tube ends or all you will pull out of the ground is gun-shaped rust.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2020 09:33 PM (0MzWm)

Three step process
Acetone cleaner on both surfaces
Primer on both surfaces
Liberal blue cement

Consider filing off the edge of the pipe to make a taper for a easier fur.
Use a rubber mallet to firmly tap the end cap in place
YMMV

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 12, 2020 09:43 PM (BiNEL)

406 Preliminary finding, but I kind of wonder if sufficient #s of Americans in this sense remain to repair the fallen institutions.
Posted by: rhomboid

Beginning to think Schlicter's novels are eerily accurate.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:43 PM (Aj7Zq)

407
Even sell it in precut 4 ft lengths. (4 inch)
Do note that std SCH40 and DVW are different diameters when you get to 4" pipe. Use SCH40, put a cap on one end and bushings on the other to fit a schroeder valve and you charge it up with nitrogen.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 12, 2020 09:42 PM (1g7ch)
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The nitrogen is a damn good idea.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:44 PM (MVjcR)

408 Thanks for the post and comments! Love my Laser Training cartridges!

Posted by: stonecutter at January 12, 2020 09:45 PM (zkxaO)

409 408 Thanks for the post and comments! Love my Laser Training cartridges!
Posted by: stonecutter at January 12, 2020 09:45 PM (zkxaO)
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You're welcome! Which ones did you end up with?

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:47 PM (MVjcR)

410 Use two. Bleed the air out as you fill with nitrogen.
Everything else is types deletes territory for me.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (VcFUs)

411 > I kind of wonder if sufficient #s of Americans in this sense remain to repair the fallen institutions.


I'm not optimistic

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (iTXRQ)

412 Graham was short.

Bad call.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (EL4ni)

413 Booo.

Posted by: Mike in Seattle at January 12, 2020 09:50 PM (L+0dl)

414 fuck the sea hawks, that is all.

Posted by: Jasper Moore at January 12, 2020 09:51 PM (B+t5k)

415 Power is still out here so I wasn't able to yell at the TV. Dangnamit!!

Posted by: Sock Monkey...seeking a new level of awareness at January 12, 2020 09:52 PM (Aj7Zq)

416 The sideline marker cam "footage" looked like Matthew Brady shot it.

Posted by: klaftern at January 12, 2020 09:52 PM (RuIsu)

417 Yeah, f'em. Especially Graham.

Posted by: Mike in Seattle at January 12, 2020 09:53 PM (L+0dl)

418 You are tots welcome!
G-Sight gen 2 9 mm Luger
Cheapshot .223/.556 Tactical Training Laser

Posted by: stonecutter at January 12, 2020 09:54 PM (zkxaO)

419 heh

Posted by: Jasper Moore at January 12, 2020 09:54 PM (B+t5k)

420 Wow.

I was listening to an angry boy rail on about stupid things, and trying to formulate a calm, but firm response to his nonsense, when his little 9yo sister did it for me, in words that might spill from my own lips.

I've always had a soft spot for the girl, but... biases aside, she's beyond her years, and a bit jaded, but kind. I'm proud of her. And I know she listens to me, because it sounded like me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (wNuYF)

421 Heart attack game. Bet grammie winger is happy.

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (u7pQw)

422 So, more nfl ref riggage?

Posted by: davidt at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (l3+k2)

423 About to watch the Ruby Ridge special on Fox.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (ptqGC)

424 420 Wow.

I was listening to an angry boy rail on about stupid things, and trying to formulate a calm, but firm response to his nonsense, when his little 9yo sister did it for me, in words that might spill from my own lips.

I've always had a soft spot for the girl, but... biases aside, she's beyond her years, and a bit jaded, but kind. I'm proud of her. And I know she listens to me, because it sounded like me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (wNuYF)

Out of the mouths of babes indeed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (NWiLs)

425 Hi Jane!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (MVjcR)

426 The 2A was written in a time when men had the balls to go against a fucking king. Now they don't have the balls to go against a slimy politician. The founders gave us the tools but without the balls the 2A is just words on a paper.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 12, 2020 09:32 PM



Politicians... Pffft!

The Supreme Court should definitiveley rule once and for all whether 2A means what it says for all Americans, or something else...

A pending case before the Court is an opportunity to re-affirm 2A as written, but my hopes are not high... It involves NYC's now repealed law regarding "premise permits"...

If I understand this correctly the grabbers are claiming, that since NYC repealed the law in question, the case is now "moot"! So I'm guessing SCOTUS will punt on this again with another "safe" non-ruling...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (7WaWV)

427 423 About to watch the Ruby Ridge special on Fox.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:55 PM (ptqGC)

No way I could watch something like that without having a ragestroke.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (NWiLs)

428 Weasel!! Yuge hugs!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:56 PM (ptqGC)

429 I hope MisHum enjoyed the game. It was a heart stopper.

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 12, 2020 09:58 PM (7ZQe3)

430 Use two. Bleed the air out as you fill with nitrogen.
Everything else is types deletes territory for me.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 12, 2020 09:48 PM (VcFUs)

I'd use end caps with metal Schroeder valves in the center of each with that nitrogen purge you suggested. I'd also use lots of silicon caulk where the valve penetrates the cap. As a final touch, once the desired nitrogen fill is complete, I'd suggest silicon caulk over the valve itself and a shot of caulk in the top of the valve before screwing on the valve cap.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (BiNEL)

431 Fox has titled it: Scandalous: Ruby Ridge.


Yeah, it's going to be rage stroke level.

For all the Fox hate, they do things like this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (ptqGC)

432 life is busy here, so i haven't been around for most of the thread:

other than the strip tease portion of it, did i miss anything good?


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (zHXTb)

433 Here comes the Ruby Ridge show. Wow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 10:00 PM (ptqGC)

434 I don't mind the Seahawks. Wilson is great. It's that fucking Pete Carroll that grinds my gears. What a horses ass.

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 12, 2020 10:00 PM (7ZQe3)

435
Almost time for the free militias to form once again.
Posted by: Christopher


I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.

George Mason

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2020 10:00 PM (aKsyK)

436 Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (zHXTb)
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Hey there - nah, pretty quiet night. Thanks again for the links.

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 10:01 PM (MVjcR)

437 Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 09:59 PM (zHXTb)

Heya!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 12, 2020 10:01 PM (NWiLs)

438 Whomever recommended "the Magic Flute" needs to pay me back in treble damages...holy schnikies

Posted by: Builder Berg at January 12, 2020 10:01 PM (q5XnN)

439 OMG. Ruby Ridge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2020 10:02 PM (ptqGC)

440 OK. I gotta run. Thanks again everyone. Have a good week!

Posted by: Weasel at January 12, 2020 10:04 PM (MVjcR)

441 329 Yes Virginia has gone from red to purple to blue
Norge Carolina is next
Texas is on the horizon
Posted by: Kurt at January 12, 2020 09:11 PM (kX0vZ)

We can keep beating the drum of defeatism or try doing something about it. (WV was a "blue state". WI, MI and PA, reliably "blue states", were not in 2016. Why?)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 12, 2020 10:04 PM (XZgzl)

442 I imagine this is about to get willowed, but this is a good blog post on what the VCDL and similar groups ought to be doing in the likelihood that Lobby Day fails:

https://tinyurl.com/ru9powr

The author is no fan of even doing Lobby Day, arguing that it'll probably become another Charlottesville, and he's none too gentle in saying so, but regardless, this seems to me like things that should already be in progress. But I'm not in VA so I don't know.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 12, 2020 10:05 PM (2PXwn)

443 I am waiting with anticipatory dread at what will happen to my neighbors to the north. My nephew in law is in law enforcement in Frederick County, my niece is in law enforcement in Winchester. Frederick County is "pending decision or discussion" and Winchester is "no action" so I'm not sure where their employers stand.

Their state gooberment is going full retard and I just know the commie mf'rs in my own state are salivating over the chances to do the same here.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 10:06 PM (ZXnzo)

444 PSA has on their daily deals a complete lower for $129 and a complete upper for $219 with FREE SHIPPING.

That's a complete AR for $350 - you'll need mags and sights/optics but that is dirt cheap.

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2020 10:08 PM (ZfRYq)

445 YD, that's awesome. Sounds like she'll be a wonderful *big* sister too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 12, 2020 10:10 PM (0ReGO)

446 I'm finally awake for an ONT, and.....its not here !

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2020 10:11 PM (arJlL)

447 Thanks for the great thread, Weasel.

I know nothing, so I'll say nothing else.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 12, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)

448 Norge Carolina is next
Texas is on the horizon
Posted by: Kurt

So much optimism without any real hope.

Why, here's something for ya right now, Kurt:

DEVELOPING: Gov't watchdogs raising concerns Hunter Biden's political gifts to several Senate Dems--inclg Leahy, Hernandez, Booker, Whitehouse, Cardin, Cantwell--may transgress Senate "conflict of interest" rules & possibly trigger recusal requirements during Senate impeachment voting...

Oops!


Posted by: Boswell at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (32YRo)

449 are html tags allowed in the comments? italics, stuff like that

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (iTXRQ)

450 Their state gooberment is going full retard and I just know the commie mf'rs in my own state are salivating over the chances to do the same here.
Posted by: GGE
--------

I am not a commie mfr'r!

Posted by: Dan Cooper, Commie Mfr'r at January 12, 2020 10:15 PM (CDGwz)

451 449
are html tags allowed in the comments? italics, stuff like that

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (iTXRQ)


Sure!

Posted by: The Barrel at January 12, 2020 10:15 PM (l3+k2)

452 Ont up

Posted by: Charles the Simple at January 12, 2020 10:15 PM (HuH1F)

453 are html tags allowed in the comments? italics, stuff like that

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:14 PM (iTXRQ)

yes they are...just don't forget to close them or you spend a night in the box barrel.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 12, 2020 10:16 PM (ZXnzo)

454 de nada: the gub thread, and Teh Horde, is a group effort.

i'm good at finding fun shit, but i'd suck at getting a coherent thread ready every... OOOOH, Shiny!.


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 12, 2020 10:17 PM (zHXTb)

455 >.just don't forget to close them or you spend a night in the box barrel.


understood

Posted by: DB at January 12, 2020 10:17 PM (iTXRQ)

456 Nood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 12, 2020 10:27 PM (u82oZ)

457 The sideline marker cam "footage" looked like Matthew Brady shot it.

Posted by: klaftern


You don't expect an organization with such limited funding as the NFL to have high- better-than-polaroid-definition cameras everywhere, do you?

Posted by: mikeski at January 12, 2020 10:28 PM (P1f+c)

458 Scuba_Dude
You may want to consider ordering ammo from an outfit like SG Ammo and having it shipped to Ben Had (if she OKs that).
This is a common strategy when going to schools or competitions due to weight/number of rounds restrictions when flying.
Bring an IFAK. Stuff happens.

Posted by: Waepnedmann at January 12, 2020 11:47 PM (wuEJO)

459 Scuba_Dude
Rifle recommendation:
Ruger American in 6.5 Creedmor.
Superior ballistics than the .308.
Less recoil.
Ammo is readily available.
Less than $500 on Gunbroker.com.
The long range shooters at my club are reporting that folks are shooting the 1000 yd matches with them right out of the box and are being very competitive. Of course, after mounting some good quality glass and spending time with load development.
Two years ago a club member took 1st in the 600 yd match with Hornady factory ammo on his first outing with his.
I shot my buddy's last Friday and was impressed. Good factory trigger. Smooth bolt retraction and feed. It reminded me of the smoothness of a Colt-Sauer from back in the day.
Want.

Posted by: Waepnedmann at January 13, 2020 12:10 AM (/0zVf)

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