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Morning
Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 06:00 AM (vd8XM) 2
Good morning horde
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:00 AM (ZCEU2) 3
Good Morning Morons today is Saturday, January 11, 2020. On this date in 1922 the first use of insulin to treat diabetes in a human patient occurred and it is still in use today.
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK) 4
Nice
Posted by: Tentotwo at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (yhf6w) 5
Cant buy a first, 2 second place in a row
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (ZCEU2) 6
Mornin', all.
Posted by: My life is insanity at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (Z/jzm) 7
Trump said he will prevent WH officials from being called in the Senate trial for impeachment. As I posted yesterday in response to another comment, Peelousy wants to call all kinds of new officials to testify so she can turn the Senate trial into another circus like the one she did in the House and have 'Kavanaugh style' endless lies in the Senate. Peelousy has no authority over Senate proceedings.
https://tinyurl.com/woq3vyp Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK) 8
Yikes.
Back to sleep. Posted by: torabora at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (Y274z) 9
states like custom vanity plates because they can charge an arm and a leg for them. But they also get really shitty about censoring them.
https://tinyurl.com/uyuom3w Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK) 10
Iran now admits they shot down the Russian civilian jet, but taking their cue from US communists with a 'D' they still blame Trump.
https://tinyurl.com/yx78vkqh Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK) 11
Screaming protester attends a Lyingwatha campaign stop accusing her of helping terrorists and siding with Iran over the US.
https://tinyurl.com/s8adczl Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK) 12
A group of AK communists after losing at the polls are attempting a recall effort against the recently elected Republican gov. (Sound familiar) An AK judge said the effort may continue. The laws in AK need to be changed. This sour grapes shit needs to go
https://tinyurl.com/wmq8kzg Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK) 13
S A T U R D A Y
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:03 AM (JFO2v) Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK) 15
More evidence of Scankles' illegal activities with her illegal server have surfaced. Why is she not in jail yet? https://tinyurl.com/qqzf3g6 Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK) 16
BB remembers when Obama was President PeeLousy said he did not need congressional authorization to attack Iran. Gee how things change when a Republican is in office.
https://tinyurl.com/tvbh7zt Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK) 17
Morons beware. Tornadoes and severe storms are hitting Missouri and OK and are moving East as we speak.
https://tinyurl.com/vdp2g4j Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK) 18
americanthinker.com/treasurys role in financing iranian terror
https://tinyurl.com/wtr7trn Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:04 AM (ZCEU2) Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK) 20
13 Bay City Rollers fan?
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:05 AM (ZCEU2) 21
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More evidence of Scankles' illegal activities with her illegal server have surfaced. Why is she not in jail yet? https://tinyurl.com/qqzf3g6 Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK) The US is a banana republic. Barky, Sharty, and Poodleface all needs to walked up on a stage about 8 feet tall and meet with a rope about 2 feet too short. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:08 AM (JFO2v) 22
Good morning, Peeps
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 06:10 AM (hZVBm) 23
16 BB remembers when Obama was President PeeLousy said he did not need congressional authorization to attack Iran. Gee how things change when a Republican is in office.
https://tinyurl.com/tvbh7zt Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK) Madame Leader WTF. Madame Leader our holy bitch of the universe please provide us with you wisdom of the old papers that created this country!! Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:11 AM (JFO2v) 24
Great, The mullahs admitted they're murderous incompetents and the Democrats blame #OrangeManBad.
Jackie Speier, if Trump is responsible for the shootdown, then by that logic YOU are responsible for 900 deaths at Jonestown. Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2020 06:13 AM (EZebt) 25
Thanks for the news Vic!
Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 06:14 AM (vd8XM) 26
My early morning tinfoil-hat theory is they would never admit to shooting that plane down, except the CINC would release irrefutable proof and publicly depants them on the world stage.
A recurring theme I've noticed, leftists invert blame whenever they can? So at either the macro or micro level. America is to blame when they attack an embassy in a different country. The churchgoers are to blame for just not dying quietly down there in Texas. "Your death, before their dishonor" There is a narrative to he maintained. Posted by: Common Tater at January 11, 2020 06:14 AM (QfSXK) 27
It is estimated the JCPOA resulted in the release of between $50 - $150 billion in frozen Iranian assets in the international financial system.
Fuck You Barky Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:15 AM (JFO2v) Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 11, 2020 06:15 AM (QxTuE) 29
20 13 Bay City Rollers fan?
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:05 AM (ZCEU2) No that just popped into my alcohol addled brain. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:16 AM (JFO2v) 30
That first diabetic in 1922 to receive Insulin,is still in use today?
His ass is gotta be sore 'eh. Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 06:19 AM (5IHGB) 31
Good morning all. What an awful time to be awake on a Saturday.
Posted by: Rosasharn at January 11, 2020 06:20 AM (PzBTm) 32
One thing I note about what PDJT is up too...he seems to be methodically undoing everything 44 did. Not a bad thing but yet a thing.
It's like 44's moves are a goto play book to wile away the down down time. Late nite....Donald reads the Iran Deal papers... 'oh looky here...he gave a terrorist a pardon. *ring ring* Give me a threat assessment on this Salami guy and his buddies' Posted by: torabora at January 11, 2020 06:21 AM (Y274z) 33
16 BB remembers when Obama was President PeeLousy said he did not need congressional authorization to attack Iran. Gee how things change when a Republican is in office.
Time after time, conservative media has dug up old videos of Dems doing the fliperoo, because, OrangeManBad or something. It doesn't even slow them down to be caught over and over. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." Ralph Waldo Emerson But the Progs (RWE was one of the early ones) really think ANY consistency just hampers their style. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2020 06:22 AM (Z4rgH) 34
#28 Denny, here's to your Bobo. Better days.
Posted by: torabora at January 11, 2020 06:24 AM (Y274z) 35
WEATHER PALOOZA for many.Warm Gulf breezes for others up North. What's windy,wet and blows..GINGER ZEE. Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 06:25 AM (5IHGB) 36
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A recurring theme I've noticed, leftists invert blame whenever they can? You made me mad. You made me hit you. You made me cheat on you. You made me... No this is not really how it works. You and you only have the choice in how you act and react. Progressivism is a disease that allows you to take physical actions against words, or thoughts, or ideas. It sounds really wonderful that you can stand up to what someone says about you with violence but then you always end up like the Florida Man that burns down his house trailer to get back at his ex. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:26 AM (JFO2v) 37
Just reading at Deplorable Climate Science blog, an article that the water levels in the Great Lakes are at record highs because of Globull Warming.
He then posts another one showing how, back in 2008, the record low levels in the Great Lakes is cause by...Globull Warming. What can't GW do? Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 06:26 AM (vd8XM) Posted by: torabora at January 11, 2020 06:26 AM (Y274z) 39
Sen. Doug Jones: I'll 'probably' vote against McConnell's impeachment trial setup if it lacks witnesses
Alabama kind of fuck that one up! Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:29 AM (JFO2v) 40
Meaghan & Harry BOMBSHELL..........I knew it I knew it they are Officially TERRORIST GRIFTERS...look out L,A and N.Y rich fucks.................... Queen VICTORIA is MAJOR PISSED and slightly amused. Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 06:31 AM (5IHGB) Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 06:34 AM (iTXRQ) 42
#10 you mean a Ukrainian jet.
Had Iran shot down a Russian jet there would be Hell to pay. Posted by: torabora at January 11, 2020 06:26 AM (Y274z) another reason to be skeptical that this was an accident If you had to pick two countries it would be Ukraine and Canada. Not that Ukraine is not tough but so many are against them and what are they going to do to Iran. When people try to be less into conspiracies than I, I have to wonder about that. At some point people are trying to play down an obvious possibility for whatever reason. If you don't know Iran's history of terrorism, then don't even try to play. They very much could have done this on purpose and anyone who doesn't realize this doesn't know much about them. Hell, it was the perfect time to do such a thing. They are not trying to get voted into the UN Security Council. They want people afraid and unsure. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 06:34 AM (n13/j) 43
No one except Democrats are above the law
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:34 AM (ZCEU2) 44
I don't count the Pro Bowl. sorry
Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 06:35 AM (iTXRQ) 45
Dirka Dirka!
Mohammed Jihad! Posted by: The MSM at January 11, 2020 06:35 AM (oVJmc) 46
I believe Joe Biden is the only person who has the set of relationships around the world, who has had this unbelievable breadth of experience as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and then as vice president for eight years and in an administration, by the way, which never had a whiff of scandal,
FUCK YOU poodleface Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:35 AM (JFO2v) Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 06:36 AM (hZVBm) 48
The Dems wanting more witnesses would be a dangerous game for them, considering they wouldn't be running things like they ran their kangaroo court in the House.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 06:37 AM (oVJmc) 49
Seems to me the place for testimony and witnesses was in the House.
The Senate role is to weigh this, and then vote. As is their custom, leftists want to change the rules after the fact, and pervert the system, and twist things to their own end. The fact that Senate Republicans are acknowledging any legitimacy whatsoever to this dumpster fire is beyond belief. Posted by: Common Tater at January 11, 2020 06:38 AM (QfSXK) 50
Howdy, Horde
I'm in Hampton, VA gonna go to the gun show. Anyone wanna get an adult beverage later today? McGyver, out Posted by: McGyver at January 11, 2020 06:41 AM (0o93/) 51
No one except Democrats are above the law
==== There are two sets of laws. One for Democrats, and another, much more stringent, set for Americans. Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at January 11, 2020 06:46 AM (d6mdH) 52
Lived at Langley AFB a year and half early 80s, Google maped it maybe a year ago, that area is so different its as if it was leved and started over.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:47 AM (ZCEU2) 53
51 No one except Democrats are above the law
==== There are two sets of laws. One for Democrats, and another, much more stringent, set for Americans. Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at January 11, 2020 06:46 AM (d6mdH) You forgot illegals. They have NO laws. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:47 AM (JFO2v) 54
If the Senate calls witnesses hope its the whistleblower first for starting it then Biden since he is the cause of 1 of the charges.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:49 AM (ZCEU2) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 11, 2020 06:49 AM (vJWtx) 56
I watched the Clinton Trial and it was mainly a bunch of speeches. I don't recall any new witnesses or testimony although back then the press would not have played it up. It was basically a very young Lyndsey Graham, Joe Rogan, and Henry Hyde making their best case to people who could not be persuaded.
The Left still thinks if they could just get one more hit in they will win. This is not different from when they thought they could flip the Electors and stop the election before the inauguration. At some point, someone is going to get a bit angry that these people seem to be trying to overthrow an election? Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 06:50 AM (n13/j) 57
Speaking of no justice the Philadelphia DA got a black guy who stabbed a white guy in the back and killed him off with only probation.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:51 AM (ZCEU2) 58
".he seems to be methodically undoing everything 44 did. Not a bad thing but yet a thing."
A big F____ing thing to quote a useless ol fool slow pedo qud pro joe Posted by: beanervt at January 11, 2020 06:51 AM (MkAqo) 59
The state of IL now has new gun dealers laws in effect as of 1/2/2020.
But the new laws are not published. No one know what they are. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:52 AM (JFO2v) 60
31 Good morning all. What an awful time to be awake on a Saturday.
Posted by: Rosasharn at January 11, 2020 06:20 AM (PzBTm) Dogs. Damned dogs. Posted by: April at January 11, 2020 06:52 AM (OX9vb) 61
MLii see on the end of ONT your getting winter, you can have it.
60s today hopefully. Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:53 AM (ZCEU2) 62
water levels in the Great Lakes are at record highs because of Globull Warming.
-- He then posts another one showing how, back in 2008, the record low levels in the Great Lakes is cause by...Globull Warming." Posted by: Bruce they just make shit up now ... Tony Heller (onYouTube) shows NASA and others just adjust data at will, or pic a time frame where there was a rise, but the main trend was flat or down. But the Great Lakes drain to the oceans, so if they are high or low, I'd guess it is seasonal, unless they dammed up the outlets. Posted by: illiniwek at January 11, 2020 06:54 AM (Cus5s) 63
#37 Bwuce ! "Just read a deplorable Climate change blog"
WOW a FIRST much feted ......................... Now BRUCIE I've heard 134 Trillion Wallabies were wacked,do you think this is gonna affect their RUGBY CHANCES? Ask your'e other BRUCIE MATES and a few VEGIE_MITES for balance! Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 06:55 AM (5IHGB) 64
The state of IL now has new gun dealers laws in effect as of 1/2/2020.
But the new laws are not published. No one know what they are. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:52 AM (JFO2v) all joking aside. I think some of these statist laws will cause actual migration. They are used to it in deep blue states but some are actually seeing the world they grew up in torn asunder. I can see people moving as types of refugees. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 06:55 AM (n13/j) 65
Yabut, leftists are only and ever about power.
Appealing to their humanity, hoping they will show mercy or come around, facts, logic, reason, basic decency - forget it. Ain't gonna happen. Only ratchets one way. They'll be firing up the gas chambers first chance they get. It's what they do. In fact, it's the only thing they've ever done, apparently. Look at history. Every single country where the socialists take control ends up the same way. To pick one: Argentina was, at one time, the 3rd wealthiest country on the planet. Not anymore. And they still haven't recovered over a hundred years later. Socialism is pure unadulterated poison. Don't misunderstand- there are horrible societal problems, but leftists use these conditions as their springboard to power. They have no intention of repair. Just power for themselves. Posted by: Common Tater at January 11, 2020 06:57 AM (QfSXK) Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 06:59 AM (JFO2v) 67
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Only 8 football games left- one NCAA, seven NFL. Geaux Tigers Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 06:34 AM (iTXRQ) 9. James Madison plays North Dakota State today. I may have a gambling problem. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 07:00 AM (TLxpZ) Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:01 AM (JFO2v) 69
>>>MLii see on the end of ONT your getting winter, you can have it.
60s today hopefully. Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:53 AM (ZCEU2) It has arrived, for sure. Below zero temps forecasted by Wednesday. Looks like the snow we are supposed to get will be here for a bit Posted by: My life is insanity at January 11, 2020 07:04 AM (Z/jzm) 70
G'morning, all.
So Trump forced the Iranians to shoot down the airliner....right? Him and his Jedi Mind Shit are just incredible. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:05 AM (tT0V4) 71
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The Dems wanting more witnesses would be a dangerous game for them, considering they wouldn't be running things like they ran their kangaroo court in the House. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 06:37 AM (oVJmc) The managed to make asses out of themselves during the Kavenaugh hearings and the Republicans let them, Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 07:07 AM (mpXpK) 72
The REAL FOOTBALL games are Premier League all day today starting 7:30am get ready to POOT A BOOT IN Lads.
Last one drunk is a Chelsea/Arsenal/ City fan. why the hell wait till 14th Jan to have the championship match??? CLEMENTINES Vs LOUSIANNA OTTERS. Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 07:07 AM (5IHGB) 73
Good morning!
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:10 AM (u82oZ) 74
>>> Willie and the sex slave
... bring a nickel, tap your feet Nice beat, but I don't think people will buy the record. Posted by: John Fogerty at January 11, 2020 07:10 AM (hZVBm) 75
So Trump forced the Iranians to shoot down the airliner....right? Trump kills guy who's been killing Americans for 20 years. Iran then engages in succession of bumbling incompetences (or intentional evils) and wind up killing third parties. But sure. Totally the 3-year-old's cry of 'He Made Me Do It!' Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:11 AM (oVJmc) 76
Moar Please!
Texas will no longer accept the resettlement of new refugees, becoming the first state known to do so under a recent Trump administration order, Gov. Greg Abbott said Friday. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:12 AM (JFO2v) 77
"Valdez AK sea level trends point down "
Interesting site. Looking at some of the tabulated locations, it would seem that sea levels are indeed rising. In locations where the data is available, for well over 100 years Long before minivans and major coal fired electrical plants stalked the earth. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:12 AM (tT0V4) 78
Village Idiot's Apprentice
Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor. We can ask Leftists that if Trump is so evil and powerful, why are you opposing the GEOTUS? Just disappear them. They won't be missed. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:13 AM (u82oZ) 79
G'morning, Salty.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:13 AM (tT0V4) 80
I got my IL license plate renewal today ... went from $101 last year to $151 now. Have to keep the cartel afloat, till we get that $150B bailout ... or maybe they start confiscating "wealth" directly next, to fund the golden pensions of early retired government slackers.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 11, 2020 07:13 AM (Cus5s) Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 07:14 AM (ZCEU2) 82
I wanted Wenger out after the Carling cup fiasco against Birmingham; long slow slide to middling irrelevance.
Posted by: Jamaica Queens at January 11, 2020 07:15 AM (4vNgL) Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:17 AM (u82oZ) 84
I think Iran accepting responsibility is a game-changer. When was the last time Iran ever apologized for anything? Ever? They even offered "thoughts and prayers" for crying out loud. The Iranian Presidents statement says nothing about the US or Trump.
Hassan Rouhani Verified account @HassanRouhani Armed Forces internal investigation has concluded that regrettably missiles fired due to human error caused the horrific crash of the Ukrainian plane and death of 176 innocent people. Investigations continue to identify and prosecute this great tragedy and unforgivable mistake. 8:40 PM - 10 Jan 2020 Hassan Rouhani Verified account @HassanRouhani 7h7 hours ago The Islamic Republic of Iran deeply regrets this disastrous mistake. My thoughts and prayers go to all the mourning families. I offer my sincerest condolences. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 07:19 AM (TLxpZ) 85
I got my IL license plate renewal today ... went from $101 last year to $151 now. Have to keep the cartel afloat, till we get that $150B bailout ... or maybe they start confiscating "wealth" directly next, to fund the golden pensions of early retired government slackers.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 11, 2020 07:13 AM (Cus5s) Ow. I fled IL in '95, doing what I call the most important vote you can make -- The one with your feet. One of my best buddies, whom I have previously called a (IL) 'lifer', tells me he is taking a trip to TN next month to scope out a new homeplace. When even the diehards are fleeing, the writing is on the wall. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2020 07:22 AM (Z4rgH) 86
" I think Iran accepting responsibility is a game-changer."
Almost as if the leadership of Iran knows something that the Democrats don't. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:22 AM (tT0V4) 87
Mornin' NaCly, First things first. Caught just a bit yesterday about you fighting some health issues. No idea what but that's not important. Just know I, and I'm sure others here are bending The Big Guy's ear about it. Second, let me know if you're heading south in Oct. There are a couple items I'd like to send with you if you decide to drive it. Posted by: teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument at January 11, 2020 07:22 AM (5u3aN) 88
>>I got my IL license plate renewal today ... went from $101 last year to $151 now. Have to keep the cartel afloat, till we get that $150B bailout ... or maybe they start confiscating "wealth" directly next, to fund the golden pensions of early retired government slackers.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 11, 2020 07:13 AM (Cus5s) Yikes! And I thought $75 was high. Posted by: My life is insanity at January 11, 2020 07:23 AM (Z/jzm) 89
You know, we could clear out the colleges if we DID bring back the draft. Think about completely uprooting the next generation of snowflake SJWs.
It'd be a LOT of recruits to have as Permanent Latrine Orderlies, though, but it might be worth it. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:23 AM (oVJmc) 90
Maybe it was Democrats blaming Trump for the aircraft shoot down that got the Iranians to admit it.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 07:24 AM (ZCEU2) 91
Perhaps the leadership of Iran recognizes that when it comes to the Middle East roadmap, Trump has installed a new fork in the road.
And they recognize an opportunity. Or They are in abject fear. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:24 AM (tT0V4) 92
84 ...Armed Forces internal investigation has concluded that regrettably missiles fired due to human error...
Interesting, Brian. Previous reporting said just one missile brought down the plane. Is this an admission they fired a salvo? Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2020 07:25 AM (Z4rgH) 93
teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument
With enough drugs, four Dr's visits and one ER trip, I'm doing better. I haven't been this ill in over 29 years. But thanks to you and others, I had happy dreams and am on the road to recovery. I am going in October. Alas, we can not car pool. But be glad to take whet you need South. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:26 AM (u82oZ) 94
Maybe it was Democrats blaming Trump for the aircraft shoot down that got the Iranians to admit it.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 07:24 AM (ZCEU2) I think you are right. They saw a divided country and took advantage of it. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 07:27 AM (n13/j) 95
They're even sending the black box to France because they say they don't know how to read the data on it. This is the global military power we were all supposed to fear.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 07:27 AM (TLxpZ) 96
Is this an admission they fired a salvo?"
More than likely. I suspect that we had satellite or other data, images, tracks in our possession that would have clearly shown Iranian responsibility. Couple that with possibly Trump reaching out through a back channel to the Iranians and explaining that there were two paths that this story could go. AKA, another fork in the road. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:28 AM (tT0V4) 97
Got up to go to my crappy retail job. The streets and sidewalks are one big sheet of ice. I managed to get to work but put one foot out of the car in the parking lot and thought "No way am I going to be able to make it to the employee entrance without falling." Called my manager (who was in the store - he made it in earlier when the streets weren't so icy) and he wanted me to try to make it in. I said "No way." I told him I'd come back in a few hours after the city had salted the streets.
There is no f'ing way I'm going to risk breaking a bone just to get to my crappy job. They won't pay my medical expenses if I do. Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 11, 2020 07:29 AM (d6Ksn) 98
Great on both!! Not going myself. Just have a couple items I'd like to get to you sometime beforehand to take with you. Small contribution to the cause. Posted by: teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument at January 11, 2020 07:30 AM (5u3aN) 99
hiya
Posted by: JT at January 11, 2020 07:30 AM (arJlL) 100
AKA, another fork in the road.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice We hate it when we are the ones getting forked. ...Ayatollah Iliketobowla... Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 07:32 AM (vd8XM) 101
Village Idiot's Apprentice
Word on the street is that our back channel to the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, an encrypted fax machine, was working overtime. And the tone was very different that the public rhetoric. Businesslike, problem solving, non-emotinal for the win. If only we had an industry that could fine out who, where, when, and why. Might make money. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:33 AM (u82oZ) 102
teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument
As you wish. August or September or October would be a good time. I await thy bidding. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:34 AM (u82oZ) 103
Yo Fredo and me SALVO didn do nuffin,we were @ Mass.
OR Conn or lower east side ,capice where's da Stromboli,Nunzi??? Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 07:35 AM (5IHGB) Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 07:35 AM (hZVBm) 105
teej, I wish you could make it your own self.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 11, 2020 07:35 AM (7LXZS) 106
As you wish. August or September or October would be a good time. I await thy bidding.
I bid a nickel ! Posted by: JT at January 11, 2020 07:35 AM (arJlL) Posted by: McGyver at January 11, 2020 07:35 AM (U5RBl) 108
teej, what's the story with Yamaha? I missed that one.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 07:36 AM (t+qrx) 109
I still think they downed that plane thinking American response was imminent, and they could blame the shoot-down on the Americans.
Trump tripped them up by not having a response, like he tripped up Democrats by releasing the transcript. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:36 AM (oVJmc) 110
Re the IL gun dealer laws, the actual laws have been published but the subsequent regulations to be promulgated by the IL State Police - the enforcing agency - are still being worked on. I know they have delayed the enforcement dates for some requirements and they backed off some of the really strict, detailed requirements for video security surveillance and other security measures. Not sure what's taking them so long to get those rules done.
Posted by: Secret Square at January 11, 2020 07:37 AM (9WuX0) Posted by: teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument at January 11, 2020 07:37 AM (5u3aN) 112
"Word on the street is that our back channel to the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, an encrypted fax machine, was working overtime.
" Trump has a public persona..... And I suspect that there is a professional and private persona that few are privy to. I don't doubt that the Swiss, or some other G.O is boy being an intermediary on this. Still waiting to see what impact the death of the leader of Oman will have on all this. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:38 AM (tT0V4) 113
Many feel very sanguine about this senate trial. I do not. I do not trust these people. I am expecting all sorts of curveballs and weirdnesses.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:39 AM (H8QX8) 114
Trump tripped them up by not having a response, like he tripped up Democrats by releasing the transcript.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:36 AM (oVJmc) The great tripper-upper. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:40 AM (H8QX8) 115
Village Idiot's Apprentice
20 problems rolling like boulders towards us. Trump raises deflection shields, and all but 1 of them bounce off. It's the Leftist crew that got out of the isolation wards we need to really worry about. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:40 AM (u82oZ) 116
In NJ students will have 2 math lessons, 2 English-language arts lessons, 2 social studies lessons, 2 science lessons, 2 visual and performing arts lessons, and 2 World Language lessons.
What will these lessons be about? LBGTASDFJKL;. Math If Joes ass will hold 4 fingers will it take a fist? English Write a sentence using the word scissoring. Science Explain the menstrual cycle of men. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:41 AM (JFO2v) 117
If the Iranians planned that shoot-down, it's possible that our intel knew it in advance.
Which would be why all those reports of all our forces going into action didn't produce any attacks. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:41 AM (oVJmc) 118
Some info on the Omani situation.
https://cnn.it/2FHMbBH Bear in mind, this is a nation that allowed an American Aircraft Carrier to berth for several days at a time for liberty, even during the times of heightened tensions in the area, Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:42 AM (tT0V4) Posted by: jsg at January 11, 2020 07:44 AM (XVaPh) 120
Good Morning NaCly and hogmartin.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 11, 2020 07:44 AM (7LXZS) 121
"Trump tripped them up by not having a response, like he tripped up Democrats by releasing the transcript.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:36 AM (oVJmc) The great tripper-upper." Trump: What would happen if we stood firm in our declared line in the sand, and immediately strike back if the line is crossed? Very Smart Folk in the Pentagon Head Shed: Don't Know Mr President. It's never been tried before. Trump: We shall name this as "Plan-A" Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:45 AM (tT0V4) 122
Iran leadership thinks no consequences.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 07:45 AM (PUmDY) 123
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If the Iranians planned that shoot-down, it's possible that our intel knew it in advance. Which would be why all those reports of all our forces going into action didn't produce any attacks. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:41 AM (oVJmc) You're still giving them too much credit by planning a false-flag airliner shootdown. It's FAR more likely some higher-ups inbred nephew with a 70 IQ pushed the wrong button. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 07:46 AM (TLxpZ) 124
119 Cali is after your lawn mower.
https://tinyurl.com/sonufk2 Posted by: jsg at January 11, 2020 07:44 AM (XVaPh) They're after anything that enables you to be more than a supplicating protoplasm. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:46 AM (H8QX8) 125
Ben Had
♫. Good morning! ♬ Is your barn OK after the lightning went through? We had thunder sleet up here. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:46 AM (u82oZ) 126
Really doubt Iranians shot that down on purpose, don't underestimate incompetence.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 07:47 AM (ZCEU2) 127
Thanks Ben but I've decided in the last week that the big mo-mees are not for me. Hogmartin, had a wing nut and bolt strip out that are part one of the spurs on my stage custom kick drum. 2 years old. Cheap metal. And not only will they not back it, they won't sell me just the nut and bolt. Nooo. Have to but damn near the entire spur. Thank you Sweetwater, the co I bought it from, for going to great lengths to make it right. Posted by: teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument at January 11, 2020 07:47 AM (5u3aN) 128
OVER 100 POSTS......................let the FREAKS OUT....NO I am just an interested Observer for the TELEGRAPH.
Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 07:47 AM (5IHGB) 129
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:41 AM (JFO2v)
generic world language lessons are pointless in my opinion. I knew a lot of people on college who took a foreign language and could not speak a lick of it at the end of two semesters. Start them young in some type of immersive environment or do it in a very intensive professional environment. Two semesters or learning grammar and then two of "appreciating their literature" accomplishes very little if the desire to be fluent in the language. I say get rid of language arts whatever that is and teach English literature and grammar. You learn to speak at home or on the play ground. You learn literature at school and by reading. Get rid of social studies and teach real history and geography. There, I just saved people a lot of time and stopped wasting a kids chance at knowledge. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 07:48 AM (n13/j) 130
Kind of crazy that AOC is a big fund raiser.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 07:48 AM (PUmDY) 131
Cali after your lawnmower
There are millions more small off-road engines (i.e.: gas-powered lawnmowers and leaf blowers) in California than there are light-duty passenger cars, according to the board's estimates. But motor cycles with all of their emission controls on them are totes okay...right? Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 07:48 AM (vd8XM) 132
Hello, Ben Had et al.
I had an hour phone screen with a potentially-hiring team yesterday (Act II of III). Felt that it went well. Could be good. Expecting warmish rain to change to wind and freezing rain over the day, but unless I get called in, I don't have any cause to leave the house. Lots of firewood and supplies. If it comes to it, I'm eating Lydia first. Oscar's more of a stewing cat. Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 07:49 AM (t+qrx) 133
"Really doubt Iranians shot that down on purpose, don't underestimate incompetence."
[ ] Iran was playing multi-dimensional chess [ ] Poorly trained missile operators made a mistake Chose only one answer. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:49 AM (tT0V4) 134
Ben - been wondering if you had lances and sabers laying around.
If you sat around reading and playing horse and musket era you would to. Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 07:49 AM (ZCEU2) 135
Brian in New Orleans
This is almost certainly the case. Plenty of examples of this in history. Including in the USAF, USA, and USN. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:49 AM (u82oZ) 136
You're still giving them too much credit by planning a false-flag airliner shootdown. It's FAR more likely some higher-ups inbred nephew with a 70 IQ pushed the wrong button. The part I can't get past is that they begin an air war but don't close their airspace. Incompetence is always possible, but sometimes it's just too much to believe. Particularly when Iran remembers the Vincennes incident as an embarrassment for the US. I'd still like to know how many other commercial flights were being allowed over Iran at the same time, but journalisming is hard. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:50 AM (oVJmc) 137
my bad, they couldn't speak the language after two years, not two semesters. I liked social studies and even sociology when schools were more about teaching you something. But you never hear about people learning Geography anymore. And today can what are the chances of getting a good history prof?
Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 07:50 AM (n13/j) Posted by: teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument at January 11, 2020 07:50 AM (5u3aN) Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:51 AM (u82oZ) 140
You're still giving them too much credit by planning
a false-flag airliner shootdown. It's FAR more likely some higher-ups inbred nephew with a 70 IQ pushed the wrong button. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 07:46 AM (TLxpZ) --- Correct. People who have no idea how the military works thinks chaos, fog of war, "friction" can all be controlled. In truth, these Q-bert six-dimensional chess moves simply can't happen. Too much will go wrong. Simply moving a battalion from point A to point B is rarely easy or perfectly successful. What happened is that the SAM battery was on high alert, waiting for the US bombers and when they got a blip, they took the shot because they figured they were going to be greased if they didn't. Iran has 2nd-hand systems, terrible command and control because they promote based on loyalty, not competence. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 07:51 AM (cfSRQ) 141
Thank you Sweetwater, the co I bought it from, for going to great lengths to make it right.
Posted by: teej who will never buy another Yamaha instrument at January 11, 2020 07:47 AM (5u3aN) Dad's mentioned Sweetwater, but I've never been. I'm a little surprised at Yamaha's response, but I guess I've never had to take any of their stuff back, so what do I know about their support? Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 07:52 AM (t+qrx) 142
Mr. Peebles
The Vincennes incident actually started the ending of the Iran-Iraq War. It saved lives in the end. A much unexamined conflict. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:52 AM (u82oZ) 143
Quint
That would require elimination of Education Degrees and a return to teachers being educated in a field of study. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:52 AM (JFO2v) 144
The part I can't get past is that they begin an air war but don't close their airspace.
Incompetence is always possible, but sometimes it's just too much to believe. Particularly when Iran remembers the Vincennes incident as an embarrassment for the US. I'd still like to know how many other commercial flights were being allowed over Iran at the same time, but journalisming is hard. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:50 AM (oVJmc) --- That's because if they closed their airspace, they'd give up the element of surprise. Maybe they tried to. Remember, there are parallel military organizations in Iran. You've got the regular services, the Revolutionary Guard and then the Quds Force, all of whom hate and distrust each other. It's like the Third Reich Wehrmacht/SS/Gestapo split on steroids with half the IQs. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 07:53 AM (cfSRQ) Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:54 AM (u82oZ) 146
it is funny that i come out on the conspiracy team. I still think they most likely did it on accident. But if you study Iranian terror, it is possible they did it on purpose. Why do people think they are not up to it? They have done this before. If they had never intentionally shot down an airliner, that would be a different thing. Having us argue about it is the best outcome they can have.
If they are serious about being in the community of nations and want nothing of terror, they could make that clear and it would be welcomed. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 07:54 AM (n13/j) 147
You'd think that CBS would be interested in the story of one of their former employees and a leading journalist in the industry (Sharyl Attkisson) having her home broken into by government agents and her computer bugged and implanted with incriminating docs.
You'd be wrong. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:54 AM (H8QX8) 148
"It's like the Third Reich Wehrmacht/SS/Gestapo split on steroids with half the IQs."
And no Hugo Boss uniforms. A recipe for disaster. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:55 AM (tT0V4) 149
I'd still like to know how many other commercial flights were being allowed over Iran at the same time, but journalisming is hard.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:50 AM (oVJmc) The flight tracks should be available, but I haven't looked into it. https://tinyurl.com/vyx49dk Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 07:55 AM (t+qrx) Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 07:55 AM (Z+IKu) 151
AOC and Bernie funds are mostly from lottery ticket funds, I imagine.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 07:56 AM (PUmDY) 152
Quint
That would require elimination of Education Degrees and a return to teachers being educated in a field of study. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:52 AM (JFO2v) heh, don't get me started. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 07:56 AM (n13/j) 153
"It's like the Third Reich Wehrmacht/SS/Gestapo split on steroids with half the IQs."
And no Hugo Boss uniforms. A recipe for disaster. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice The moostaches and beards do kind of make up for it though. Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 07:56 AM (vd8XM) 154
147 You'd think that CBS would be interested in the story of one of their former employees and a leading journalist in the industry (Sharyl Attkisson) having her home broken into by government agents and her computer bugged and implanted with incriminating docs.
You'd be wrong. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:54 AM (H8QX Journolistism is about covering a story, with a pillow, until it goes into that dark night. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 07:56 AM (JFO2v) Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:56 AM (u82oZ) 156
"If they are serious about being in the community of nations and want nothing of terror, they could make that clear and it would be welcomed. "
We of the internet may never actually know how they have arrived at this decision point in the arc of their nations future. But I am convinced that Iran now has some possible choices to make that were simply inconceivable by their leadership even six months ago. Chose wisely folks, your nations role in the future depends on it. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 07:58 AM (tT0V4) 157
Same here hogmartin. Nothing but a sheet of ice out there and colder than hell. I'm in for the day. But I won't eat my cat. well.. I don't have a cat. I won't eat the dog either. Well wait.. he HAS been a little bit of a pain in the ass lately. He better watch himself today.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 07:58 AM (dUJdY) 158
what's the old saying? never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence
I think that's it Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 07:58 AM (iTXRQ) Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 07:58 AM (2sCgy) 160
MOPP 4. Shesh. And no, I have no auto correct to blame. My brain to finger coordination needs work.
Alas, I took all those STEM classes in school. Should have gone to a typing class. With all the women that were not in my classes. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 07:59 AM (u82oZ) 161
Iran even being a totalitarian state still have travel in and out of it.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 07:59 AM (ZCEU2) 162
Skip, my brother gave me a black powder rifle he had made but I gave it to the son of a good friend.
Downtime around here is wood working projects. Posted by: Ben Had at January 11, 2020 07:59 AM (7LXZS) 163
I won't eat the dog either. Well wait.. he HAS been a little bit of a pain in the ass lately. He better watch himself today.
Posted by: Jewells45 I've got a great recipe for you!! ...Barky Oblabla... Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (vd8XM) 164
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." Ralph Waldo Emerson
******** If the point is that Democrat politicians are inconsistent, Emerson is actually saying that is a good thing. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (m45I2) 165
I'd still like to know how many other commercial
flights were being allowed over Iran at the same time, but journalisming is hard. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 07:50 AM (oVJmc) If you're a foreign airline pilot on the runway in a middle-eastern country about to go home and a war starts... do you turn around and go back to the terminal or do you take your chances? Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (TLxpZ) 166
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it is funny that i come out on the conspiracy team. I still think they most likely did it on accident. But if you study Iranian terror, it is possible they did it on purpose. Why do people think they are not up to it? They have done this before. If they had never intentionally shot down an airliner, that would be a different thing. Having us argue about it is the best outcome they can have. If they are serious about being in the community of nations and want nothing of terror, they could make that clear and it would be welcomed. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 07:54 AM (n13/j) --- Just walk through the process and you'll see how unlikely it is. First, which plane? Second, which launcher? Iran's air defenses aren't like ours. It appears to have been a tactical missile, so the individual operator may have taken the shot. Alternatively, orders came down that the missiles were away and to go to full alert. So they did this and set the fire controls on automatic because the likely outcome was that any "blip" they saw was going to be a SEAD mission seeking to kill them all before the main strike. At that point, transponders, flight paths, etc. mean nothing. It's pretty basic stuff. The military side didn't even think about civilian air traffic because that's icky and dull. Their people are promoted for fanatical devotion to the cause, not actual intellect. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (cfSRQ) 167
Nevergiveup
Good Morning, Sir. Hope your world is serene, and the yeomen have all the LT Fitreps ready. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (u82oZ) 168
Imagine the irony, if at some point in the future the people of Iran chose to erect statues to the great peacemaker in their city squares.
Four meter high bronze figures of.. The Golden Scalp Weasel. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (tT0V4) 169
158 what's the old saying? never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence
These days it's malice AND incompetence. The Leftist twofer. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (H8QX8) 170
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Steve McQueen's Bullitt Mustang sells for $3.4M at an auto auction. https://tinyurl.com/r3mapg7 Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK) ----------------------------------------Good, that family has taken enough Bullshit from people. When this car first surfaced, people said "MeQueen wanted it back. They were horrible people not to sell it back to him" He wanted to pay them peanuts. Fuck S/M. People said "Yeah, but Steve McQueen, he was somebody, these people are nothing". Also, "How dare they hide it all these years". When the family first got the car it was the wife's car and she used it to commute. Steve McQueen was a great actor. He was also an asshole. The movie was great. Did you know that the guy driving the Charger in the movie was the same guy driving the car in "The Seven Ups" and " The French Connection,"? Bill Hickman. I was showing my nephew car chase scenes from movies he never heard of. We watched them in that order. We get to the "The Seven Ups" and he says "Hey, that's the same guy!!". Posted by: Groundhog at January 11, 2020 08:01 AM (VYwSh) Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 08:01 AM (JFO2v) 172
Who knew Iran had incoming Non military flights?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:02 AM (PUmDY) 173
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The only way to save lives is to ban all air travel into and out of Iran. More coffee. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 07:55 AM (Z+IKu) How do you enforce that without shooting down airliners? Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:03 AM (TLxpZ) 174
what's the old saying? never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence
I think that's it The go-to defense for Dems, the Deep State, and the MSM. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 08:03 AM (oVJmc) 175
Got to find shoes and get moving
Play nice everyone Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 08:03 AM (ZCEU2) 176
Got to find shoes and get moving
Play nice everyone Posted by: Skip And pants!! DOn't forget pants... Well, too late Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:04 AM (vd8XM) 177
I'm just rather astonished that the Iranians are actually just openly admitting that they are actually to blame for shooting down the plane, saying that those responsible will be punished, and otherwise acting like normal, sane, honest human beings. Which leads me to wonder if they actually aren't, and the Associated Press et al. are just making up a face-saving propaganda smokescreen for their pals.
Posted by: Stu-22 at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (kZT36) 178
I do not have a cat or dog. If shit hits fan here we will resort to gator or trash panda.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (JFO2v) 179
I remember being told by the media that Saddam's army was the '4th best in the world' and then they promptly surrendered to camera crews and people out for Sunday goat rides during the GW.
Quality isn't a feature of ME armies. I'll go with Incompetence on this one. Posted by: jsg at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (XVaPh) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (oVJmc) 181
Iran has been all about malice for so long. And they are smart enough to know the West will think it has to be incompetence. I am not trying to oversell this. But the accident theory is the same the hard left proposes. I am just saying it is possible that an angry terror state would conduct terror. It could happen is all i am saying.
I also don't think we will ever know so i guess we have to go with the accident theory and let the sides debate who is to blame for that. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (n13/j) 182
BTW, it's interesting to see that both Boot Edge and Tulsi naturally took Iran's side and blamed us.
These are the "honorable veterans" the Dems rely on. Speaks volumes. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:06 AM (cfSRQ) 183
I'm just rather astonished that the Iranians are actually just openly admitting that they are actually to blame for shooting down the plane, saying that those responsible will be punished, and otherwise acting like normal, sane, honest human beings. Which leads me to wonder if they actually aren't, and the Associated Press et al. are just making up a face-saving propaganda smokescreen for their pals.
Posted by: Stu-22 Actually, Ayatollah Ineedmyundieschanged had just stated... At this point, what difference does it make Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:06 AM (vd8XM) 184
"Which leads me to wonder if they actually aren't, and the Associated Press et al. are just making up a face-saving propaganda smokescreen for their pals. "
Are you suggesting that the American Press would lie to support those who they consider their partners in ideology? Why...that's just.... Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:06 AM (tT0V4) 185
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I'm just rather astonished that the Iranians are actually just openly admitting that they are actually to blame for shooting down the plane, saying that those responsible will be punished, and otherwise acting like normal, sane, honest human beings. Which leads me to wonder if they actually aren't, and the Associated Press et al. are just making up a face-saving propaganda smokescreen for their pals. Posted by: Stu-22 at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (kZT36) It's a VERY big deal. Obama gave them a billion dollars stacked on pallets and didn't even get an apology. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:07 AM (TLxpZ) 186
I think it is the word 'hobgoblin' that has awlays bothered me about that quote.
So restated, it says: There is a mischievous spirit in the minds of small-minded people and that spirit is being consistent to a foolish degree. Leave out the hobgoblin and it becomes much more concise. "Being consistent to a foolish degree is a characteristic of small-minded people." That's better. Screw Emerson and the hobgoblin he rode in on. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:07 AM (m45I2) 187
McQueen contacted the owner of the Mustang in the late 70s, when he was ailing. His solicitations were professional and courteous. He wanted the car for his kids. McQueen went through huge changes in his life near the end.
Yes, the owner of the Mustang took a lot of shit, but not from McQueen. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:08 AM (H8QX8) 188
How do you enforce that without shooting down airliners?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:03 AM (TLxpZ) No airports, no flights. Craters are hard to land in. More coffee. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 08:08 AM (Z+IKu) 189
It's a VERY big deal. Obama gave them a billion dollars stacked on pallets and didn't even get an apology. He specifically didn't want one. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 08:08 AM (oVJmc) 190
Bullies tend to act differently after they get punched in the face.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2020 08:09 AM (ZLI7S) Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 08:09 AM (iTXRQ) 192
Great illustration why Warren is fading fast.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles I watched a little of it. The 2 percent tax on the wealthy that is part of her plan to pay off student loans, reminds me of the gov of Illinois was only going to tax billionaires to pay off the states deficit. He then decided it was easier to raise taxes on everything. Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:09 AM (vd8XM) 193
Dead and Co played Big Boss Man last run. You Just Tall that's about all.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:11 AM (PUmDY) 194
Hope your world is serene, and the yeomen have all the LT Fitreps ready.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 08:00 AM (u82oZ) They are doing the Nurse Corps, so all I do is sit back and sip my coffee...mostly Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:11 AM (2sCgy) 195
The 2 percent tax on the wealthy that is part of her plan to pay off student loans, reminds me of the gov of Illinois was only going to tax billionaires to pay off the states deficit.
He then decided it was easier to raise taxes on everything. Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:09 AM (vd8XM) IIRC, in Maryland, you didn't have to actually be a millionaire to qualify for their millionaire tax. Posted by: jsg at January 11, 2020 08:11 AM (XVaPh) 196
Bullies tend to act differently after they get punched in the face.
At this point they really don't have any other option. They can't play themselves as victims if they suppress the flight recorders and hide the evidence, and there's no one else to blame for this but them. I think it's their least-worst option. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 08:12 AM (oVJmc) 197
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Iran has been all about malice for so long. And they are smart enough to know the West will think it has to be incompetence. I am not trying to oversell this. But the accident theory is the same the hard left proposes. I am just saying it is possible that an angry terror state would conduct terror. It could happen is all i am saying. I also don't think we will ever know so i guess we have to go with the accident theory and let the sides debate who is to blame for that. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (n13/j) --- Occam's Razor. Which is more difficult? Accidental shootdown, or carefully planned shootdown made to look like an accident? Now look at the skill levels. Assuming they're completely amoral, American operators might be able to pull this off, but you'd have to ensure that the battery in question is fanatically loyal and doesn't screw it up (which is always a possibility). That means that *one battery* is the best of the best, hand-picked and hand-placed, which no one will notice. Or, they were just guys scared half to death who fired at the first thing that moved after the alert was sounded. People are really overthinking things now. Iran admitted it because they had to. We have the freaking film. There's a point to strategic lying, but remember that Iran still wants passenger air service. If they continue to tell obvious lines, all airlines will pull out. They will be blockading themselves. Even the Mullahs aren't that stupid. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:13 AM (cfSRQ) 198
"IIRC, in Maryland, you didn't have to actually be a millionaire to qualify for their millionaire tax."
Yes. Maryland's definition of 'Millionaire' has.....evolved. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:13 AM (tT0V4) 199
Jackie Speier, if Trump is responsible for the shootdown, then by that logic YOU are responsible for 900 deaths at Jonestown. -- What an excellent observation!! And one that needs to be shoved down that crazy woman's throat. If Trump somehow is responsible because he instigated them...provoked by killing their terrorist king, then she is responsible for provoking Jones with their investigation/trip. Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:14 AM (JoUsr) 200
Lyle Lovett cover of Friend of the Devil is very good.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:15 AM (PUmDY) 201
At this point they really don't have any other
option. They can't play themselves as victims if they suppress the flight recorders and hide the evidence, and there's no one else to blame for this but them. I think it's their least-worst option. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 08:12 AM (oVJmc) --- What airline will fly into Iran if they keep lying about it? What pilot will take that trip? None. I'm pretty sure all the airlines that still do business with them said "Fix this, come clean or you're cut off." Iran is already on the brink of economic collapse and starvation. Getting a global (and voluntary!) air embargo against them would be a disaster. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:15 AM (cfSRQ) 202
Jackie Speier, if Trump is responsible for the shootdown, then by that logic YOU are responsible for 900 deaths at Jonestown.
Was she involved with that? Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:16 AM (2sCgy) 203
ALL commercial air travel should be suspended to Iran. Period
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:16 AM (2sCgy) 204
BTW, it's interesting to see that both Boot Edge and Tulsi naturally took Iran's side and blamed us.
These are the "honorable veterans" the Dems rely on. Speaks volumes. -- Yeah, Tulsi has large highway billboards up here in upstate SC. Her motto? "A soldier's heart." Yes, she has a soldier's heart, alright. For Iran? Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (JoUsr) 205
182 BTW, it's interesting to see that both Boot Edge and Tulsi naturally took Iran's side and blamed us.
These are the "honorable veterans" the Dems rely on. Speaks volumes. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:06 AM (cfSRQ) They are both playing g d. They hubris of the educated (and maybe smart) is that they have the answers. Therefore, everyone else is wrong and must be corrected. I see many commenter on this here site that appear to have some knowledge and offer their advice. What I do not see is their desire to use the power (and violence) of the state to force those ideas into actual works. It is interesting that offers a marketplace of ideas and has tried to make government less intrusive on companies and individuals. Notice how SCARED this makes progressives. If just 5% of the US population wakes up today and see they are more safe, more free, and more blessed the path to socialism in the USA will be postponed another 10 to 20 years. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (JFO2v) 206
>>I think it's their least-worst option.
Yea, they really are running low on options. If we had a real media it would have been reporting on the massive internal turmoil and crashing economy in Iran since Trump tore up the Iran deal and started whacking them with sanctions. Trump just throw them into further chaos by taking out the leader of their external chaos machine. And let's not forget, the majority of the people on that plane were either Iranians or of Iranian heritage. It's not just the outside world that is angry. It hasn't been very well reported but there are some reports coming out of Iran that dozens of IRGC commanders loyal to Soleimani have been arrested over the last week. Stuff is going on below the surface that we aren't fully seeing yet. Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (ZLI7S) 207
Was she involved with that?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:16 AM (2sCgy) I think she was part of the congressional group that went down offering to bring people back (and got shot up at the airstrip). Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (t+qrx) 208
203 ALL commercial air travel should be suspended to Iran. Period
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:16 AM (2sCgy) Does that include Tomahaks ? Posted by: jsg at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (XVaPh) 209
Iran is already on the brink of economic collapse and starvation. Getting a global (and voluntary!) air embargo against them would be a disaster.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd And our ratings will go even lower!!! ...CNN...Death to America Inc Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (vd8XM) 210
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ALL commercial air travel should be suspended to Iran. Period Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:16 AM (2sCgy) --- I'm certain that's why Iran is coming clean on this. As it is, I'm also certain that they will have less air traffic as pilots refuse those routes. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:18 AM (cfSRQ) 211
Jackie Speier, if Trump is responsible for the shootdown, then by that logic YOU are responsible for 900 deaths at Jonestown.
Was she involved with that? Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2020 08:16 AM (2sCgy) ----------- She was one of Jones' followers who managed to escape with what was left of the congressional delegation. Comfortably Smug had an excellent tweet about that yesterday. Posted by: bluebell at January 11, 2020 08:19 AM (/669Q) 212
"Iran is already on the brink of economic collapse and starvation. Getting a global (and voluntary!) air embargo against them would be a disaster."
With the chances that within three weeks of implementing the embargo, evidence begins to emerge, suggesting that the Dems, in conjunction with the CIA are smuggling food and military aid into Iran. VIA AirIrania. A CIA front airline. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:19 AM (tT0V4) 213
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McQueen contacted the owner of the Mustang in the late 70s, when he was ailing. His solicitations were professional and courteous. He wanted the car for his kids. McQueen went through huge changes in his life near the end. Yes, the owner of the Mustang took a lot of shit, but not from McQueen. Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:08 AM (H8QX -----Yes, I should have been more clear. The SM on screen persona and SM the person were a bit different. SM was one of the best actors who ever graced the screen. The people who crabbed about the owners bought in the persona 100%. He did contact the family in a professional manner. He didn't offer them the world. Because he was SM the persona they should have...... because SM. My dream if I had Jeff Bezos F/U money would to buy some priceless car and set up a stage near Pebble Beach. Then destroy it. Just because. My property/my rights. Your property/your rights. I hate "They should", "He was" because....... I'd do it every year. Collector car sellers would love me. Collector car buyers would be horrified that they'd run up the price at auction. Posted by: Groundhog at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (VYwSh) 214
Have a wonderful day, everyone. We live in amazing times. Enjoyed the chat.
Chores do not get easier if I put them off. Hmm, I need staff. Not teenagers, staff. But outside, head on a swivel and have a Mattis plan. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (u82oZ) 215
And as GnuBreed points out, the Dems take the Emerson quote to mean that inconsistency (which they take to a foolish degree) is a good thing in and of itself.
Oddly enough, I looked up the full quote and that is exactly what Emerson goes on to say, ending with 'to be great is to be misunderstood': "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. -- 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' -- Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood." Gah!!! Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (m45I2) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (tT0V4) 217
Was she involved with that?
-- NGU, she was part of Congressman Leo Ryan's entourage that went on an investigative trip there via bus into the jungle. They went to visit Jonestown after allegations of abuse. The was on the bus when Jim Jones' madmen shot the congressman to death, along with several others, and she only made it out by the grace of G*d. Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (JoUsr) 218
Trump just throw them into further chaos by taking out the leader of their external chaos machine.
It's our largest export! ...Ayatollah Kaboomi... Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (vd8XM) 219
Be safe, Salty
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:21 AM (tT0V4) 220
She was one of Jones' followers who managed to escape with what was left of the congressional delegation.
-- I don't believe she was a follower, bluebell. She was an assistant to Congressman Leo Ryan. Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:21 AM (JoUsr) 221
195 The 2 percent tax on the wealthy that is part of her plan to pay off student loans, reminds me of the gov of Illinois was only going to tax billionaires to pay off the states deficit.
He then decided it was easier to raise taxes on everything. Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2020 08:09 AM (vd8XM) IIRC, in Maryland, you didn't have to actually be a millionaire to qualify for their millionaire tax. Posted by: jsg at January 11, 2020 08:11 AM (XVaPh) Any politician that uses the word wealth when talking about a taxation plan needs to be kicked in the mangina. Wealth is nothing more than income that has been saved (not consumed) so that it can be directed to future needs. Politicians know NOTHING about future needs and spend everything they receive this year (plus some from the next 30 years) to pay for todays wants and desires. Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 08:22 AM (JFO2v) 222
"Does that include Tomahaks ?"
Only the commercial ones. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (tT0V4) I always heard our (Navy) TLAMs were on lease from the USAF. I never bothered to look into whether that was serious (and if not, why someone would bother to make up such a pointless claim). Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:23 AM (t+qrx) 223
Have a good day NaCly. Stay warm!
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 08:23 AM (dUJdY) Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:24 AM (t+qrx) 225
Iran has been all about malice for so long. And they are smart enough to know the West will think it has to be incompetence. I am not trying to oversell this. But the accident theory is the same the hard left proposes. I am just saying it is possible that an angry terror state would conduct terror. It could happen is all i am saying.
I also don't think we will ever know so i guess we have to go with the accident theory and let the sides debate who is to blame for that. Posted by: Quint at January 11, 2020 08:05 AM (n13/j) Well...they meant well. That's all that counts. Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2020 08:24 AM (q57gj) 226
I don't believe she was a follower, bluebell. She was an assistant to Congressman Leo Ryan. Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:21 AM (JoUsr) ------------ Was she? Oops, my bad. I thought she was a follower. I saw a documentary about it a while back but the details are fuzzy, lol. Posted by: bluebell at January 11, 2020 08:24 AM (/669Q) 227
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And as GnuBreed points out, the Dems take the Emerson quote to mean that inconsistency (which they take to a foolish degree) is a good thing in and of itself. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (m45I2) --- I think the point is that you should change your mind when the facts change. The Dems don't do that, though, they merely change their lies. "Trump needs to be removed before the election!" "No wait, not removing him is a genius move!" "Akshually, this is all political!" There's nothing but tactical flip-flops. That's the opposite of what he's saying. I used to think modest gun control made sense because I was young, ignorant and raised in suburbia. I since change that opinion based on facts (ironically facts I discovered while trying to *defend* gun control). So I'm inconsistent, but in a good way. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:25 AM (cfSRQ) 228
Its 54 degrees here and clear,
Whoo hoo Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 08:25 AM (ZCEU2) 229
Go look at the ONT. #12 is something you will want to see.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:24 AM (t+qrx) ---------- *scurries off* Posted by: bluebell at January 11, 2020 08:25 AM (/669Q) 230
I always heard our (Navy) TLAMs were on lease from
the USAF. I never bothered to look into whether that was serious (and if not, why someone would bother to make up such a pointless claim). Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:23 AM (t+qrx) --- Because military people like to make up outrageous lies and see who believes them for amusement? What's the Navy equivalent to "Go get me a hundred feet of flight line"? Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:27 AM (cfSRQ) Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 08:27 AM (iiQCS) 232
>>BTW, it's interesting to see that both Boot Edge and Tulsi naturally took Iran's side and blamed us.
These are the "honorable veterans" the Dems rely on. - - - Eh, I remember that mayor Pete was talking up restoring the Iran deal early in his campaign. Then there's his long association with the Truman Center for National Security (funded by Ploughshares) - and org. that used it's veteran members to help Kerry and Obama shill for the Iran deal in the media (i.e. active member of Ben Rhodes' "echo chamber"). https://preview.tinyurl.com/vs8w7kg https://preview.tinyurl.com/uygbnwt I have no idea what Tulsi's deal is on Iran. Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2020 08:28 AM (bDqIh) 233
What's the Navy equivalent to "Go get me a hundred feet of flight line"?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:27 AM (cfSRQ) Can of relative bearing grease. But the TLAM one is just so pointless. It's not the usual "let's see who falls for it". Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:28 AM (t+qrx) 234
Aw, hogmartin, that was cute! Thank you. I love those little videos animating inanimate objects with stick arms and legs.
At first though I thought you meant this: 12 zactley, motherfuckers. Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 10, 2020 09:56 PM (KP5rU) And I wondered. Posted by: bluebell at January 11, 2020 08:28 AM (/669Q) 235
Iran admits to shooting down Ukrainian plane. American MFM hit hardest
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 08:27 AM (iiQCS) --- Tulsi and Mayor Pete hardest hit. Well, other than the plane. RIP. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:28 AM (cfSRQ) 236
"What's the Navy equivalent to "Go get me a hundred feet of flight line"?"
Steam Blanket Mail Buoy watch Sixty foot of Waterline Wanna see a sea Bat, it's under this box. And many many more Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:29 AM (tT0V4) 237
IT'S WHITE OUTSIDE!
32 degrees, wind out of NW@15mph, intermittent rain and snow, barely see across the street!.. here in SW Denton,TX. Big snowflakes. ```the only gym time this morning will be whippin up some coffee and oatmeal. G'Morning and pass the coffee! Have a Blessed day. Posted by: Larro at January 11, 2020 08:29 AM (10GNe) 238
And I wondered.
Posted by: bluebell at January 11, 2020 08:28 AM (/669Q) Oops! Yes, should have clarified that I meant #12 in the post. Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:30 AM (t+qrx) 239
I just took the watch man. Once for blood.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:30 AM (PUmDY) 240
Emerson has a tendency to be all smoke and no fire.
Posted by: Caliban at January 11, 2020 08:31 AM (QE8X6) Posted by: Heirloominati at January 11, 2020 08:31 AM (+J//Q) 242
You're still giving them too much credit by planning a false-flag airliner shootdown. It's FAR more likely some higher-ups inbred nephew with a 70 IQ pushed the wrong button.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 07:46 AM (TLxpZ) I agree completely. People don't realize how automated, and deadly, modern weapons systems are. (like Russian made AA) They are Fire and Forget systems - all it takes is one idiot punching a button, and BOOM. I've read some say that this particular system could be set on auto, so the operators may not have even realized it was about to fire. Letting the Iranians have weapons systems like this is like giving a room of five year old boys fully loaded AK-47's to play with. And then being surprised when someone gets shot. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:31 AM (V2Yro) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:31 AM (tT0V4) 244
Can of relative bearing grease.
But the TLAM one is just so pointless. It's not the usual "let's see who falls for it". Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:28 AM (t+qrx) --- No, it's got a different objective. Its purpose is to make the person saying it seem really versed in military minutae. If they know little details like that, what other things might they know? You should listen to their wisdom. I know I've heard similar nonsense, but because it was nonsense, I forgot it. Every branch has its 'fake trivia.' Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:32 AM (cfSRQ) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:32 AM (tT0V4) 246
Like everyone that lives in California is a paper millionaire if they own property in or near the big cities...
Posted by: Colin at January 11, 2020 08:32 AM (nkgQy) 247
NGU, she was part of Congressman Leo Ryan's entourage that went on an investigative trip there via bus into the jungle. They went to visit Jonestown after allegations of abuse. The was on the bus when Jim Jones' madmen shot the congressman to death, along with several others, and she only made it out by the grace of G*d.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (JoUsr) === Yes, she was Rep Leo Ryan's aide, was shot when he was killed, and later elected to his seat. So if she hadn't butted into the paradise Jim Jones was creating, all those people would still be alive. /s Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2020 08:33 AM (EZebt) 248
I think the point is that you should change your mind when the facts change.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd ********** That's what I always assumed the quote meant. Don't be foolishly consistent. Which is what reasonable people (such as you and I) strive for. Be open to new facts that change the calculation. But if you read the full quote (see me at #215) he says to be inconsistent arbitrarily and that is what makes a great person. It's balderdash. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:34 AM (m45I2) 249
I learned to duck.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:34 AM (PUmDY) 250
"If they know little details like that, what other things might they know? You should listen to their wisdom.
" Sort of like... We should listen to him, he's pre-med. I thought it was pre-law? I thought it was day 2-3 of Boot Camp. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:34 AM (tT0V4) 251
So in 2018, 4 dem senator incumbents lose after voting with against Kav. The one hwo votes for him, manchin, wins. All this while the rats win 40 house seats. Gop gains in the senate, should have woke up the left. But here they are again on impeachment. Pelosi is a moron
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:35 AM (2zIj5) 252
I've read some say that this particular system could
be set on auto, so the operators may not have even realized it was about to fire. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:31 AM (V2Yro) --- That's necessary because the target may only appear briefly. It's all about the radar and the target aspect. So if you get a good but fleeting look, you have to take it instantly. The IADS people didn't even think about civilian air. Because Iran. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:35 AM (cfSRQ) 253
That's the opposite of what he's saying. I used to think modest gun control made sense because I was young, ignorant and raised in suburbia.
I since change that opinion based on facts (ironically facts I discovered while trying to *defend* gun control). So I'm inconsistent, but in a good way. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:25 AM (cfSRQ) One of the best bits of advice I've been told for those preparing a legal case is that you can't understand your own side until you make a very honest effort to defend the other side, to the best of your ability. Sometimes when one does that, you can find the holes in the other side. Sometimes one finds that the other sides case is stronger than your own. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:35 AM (V2Yro) 254
This weekend is the No Pants Subway ride in NYC., on January 12 .... Because subway riders just wearing underwear is exactly what a visiting family with children want to see. I hope the MTA takes a flamethrower to the seats the day after to clean them.
What are the odds some gal gets molested on the ride? Jeez, even the homeless know enough to keep their pants on. Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 08:35 AM (11H2y) 255
I know I've heard similar nonsense, but because it was nonsense, I forgot it. Every branch has its 'fake trivia.'
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:32 AM (cfSRQ) Maybe that's why it stuck in my head, because it was such an odd and irrelevant claim. Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:36 AM (t+qrx) 256
Leo Ryan, only went to take a bribe from Jones?
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:36 AM (2zIj5) 257
It's pretty clear that Iran was afraid of Justin Trudeau's response.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:37 AM (TLxpZ) Posted by: San Francisco at January 11, 2020 08:37 AM (tT0V4) 259
Mary Pete and Democrats coordinate campaign talking points with the Mullahs.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 11, 2020 08:38 AM (MHHCZ) 260
Speaking of no justice the Philadelphia DA got a black guy who stabbed a white guy in the back and killed him off with only probation. Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:51 AM (ZCEU2) And not a word of it in the national media. Odd that Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 08:38 AM (iiQCS) 261
so yesterday wasn't a terrible nightmare??? Neil Peart is gone??? & RBG is fine?
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 11, 2020 08:38 AM (BqBId) 262
Chicago Pot taxes reach an average of 42%. Dealers, with their laced product, are very happy. Gubmint never gets it right
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:38 AM (2zIj5) 263
We're all confused.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:38 AM (PUmDY) 264
It's pretty clear that Iran was afraid of Justin Trudeau's response. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:37 AM (TLxpZ) They were terrorized at the thought of him dressing up as Ali Baba Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (iiQCS) 265
260. Another reason to never visit a US city, unless you really have to
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (2zIj5) 266
I think Seamus is saying inconsistent inconsistency is inconsistent
Posted by: freaked at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (Tnijr) 267
Jeez, even the homeless know enough to keep their pants on.
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 08:35 AM (11H2y) === 1. That "pantsless ride" is happening on BART too 2. Your post assumes facts not in evidence, not around here anyway Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (EZebt) 268
But if you read the full quote (see me at #215) he says to be inconsistent arbitrarily and that is what makes a great person. It's balderdash.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:34 AM (m45I2) Hey, don't bind me with your rules, man! I'm a free spirit. Too bad they haven't invented acid yet. Posted by: Zombie Ralp;h Waldo Emerson at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (q57gj) 269
Modern defensive weapons systems in full auto modes and airliners should not be in close proximity to each other.
This is why we have Seaman Timmy make sure that CIWS is 'Safe" unless we really expect something to come up. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:40 AM (tT0V4) 270
Iran admits to shooting down Ukrainian plane. American MFM hit hardest 'BLAME TRUMP' means never having to say you're sorry. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 08:40 AM (oVJmc) 271
Greetings fappers and fappees.
Fresh hell is taking this weekend off. It's tired after the past week's shenanigans. Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at January 11, 2020 08:40 AM (HaL55) 272
245 "What's goin' on?"
In a historic first, Iran told the truth. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:32 AM Wait, wut?! More winning, you say? Posted by: Heirloominati at January 11, 2020 08:40 AM (+J//Q) 273
Morning 'rons and 'ettes.
Heading to STL in a bit. It's monsoon wx now and this afternoon changing to snow in STL. Hope to get out of there before snow starts. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (Dhht7) 274
But if you read the full quote (see me at #215) he
says to be inconsistent arbitrarily and that is what makes a great person. It's balderdash. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:34 AM (m45I2) --- I don't read it that way. He says speak what you believe today in harsh words and then speak what you think tomorrow in harsh words as well. Tomorrow of course you may know more than you do today, and may hesitate to contradict yourself, but that would be "foolish consistency." The underlying point is to speak forcefully always, saying what you believe in that moment, not worrying if you may have said something else before. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (cfSRQ) 275
Later than I thought.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (PUmDY) 276
Early indications is Pelosi is now willing to relent and send over the articles of impeachment to the Senate. As Jim Jordan is finding out, THE FIX IS IN. any efforts to ad substantial evidence or witnesses to the investigation will be stonewalled and rebuffed. Let the farce begin ! Errr continue ?
This is going to be humiliating and embarassing to watch. Republicans playing LEWINSKY to Demorats viciousness, intolerance, and injustice. OBSCENITY Posted by: ron n. at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (om5HK) 277
What does Trudeau have to do anyways, besides Manscape? Canada just writes checks to Nato etc.. and we protect them with our Navies in the pacific and Atlantic. Canada is a american exurb
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (2zIj5) 278
My one day a week to sleep in and I had to get up at 5 to take my mom to the airport...I don't think I like working full time...
Posted by: lin-duh at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (UUBmN) 279
"Wait, wut?!
More winning, you say? " Oh....and France may have surrendered. Still waiting updates on that. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (tT0V4) Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 08:42 AM (5IHGB) 281
I wouldn't want to touch anything on a subway and damn sure ain't going on without pants. Actually I'd prefer a full body condom.
Posted by: freaked at January 11, 2020 08:43 AM (Tnijr) 282
My dimwitted cousin still blames Reagan for AIDS. Every time i see the little rat, he brings up a prez from 35 years ago
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:43 AM (2zIj5) 283
"Foolish consistency," eh? You mean like watching your cost of living skyrocket but voting for Democrats every time?
That type of foolishness? Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at January 11, 2020 08:43 AM (HaL55) 284
Don't lend your hand to raise no flag. What
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:43 AM (PUmDY) 285
The WSJ today published a stunning chart of income gains under PDJT as compared to Zoobama and if the socialists truly cared about raising up the poor in unprecedented ways and reducing the so-called "income gap", they'd all be Trump voters. Every last one of them. His achievements are amazing, especially when you see them in graph format.
But socialists really just care about government control of life. SO they will either lie about the data, like that kid Mayor Pete Buttgig, or just pretend no one knows the reality, like Bernie does. Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 11, 2020 08:44 AM (NVYyb) 286
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What does Trudeau have to do anyways, besides Manscape? Canada just writes checks to Nato etc.. and we protect them with our Navies in the pacific and Atlantic. Canada is a american exurb Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (2zIj5) --- No, that was 80s Canada. Modern Canada is a Chinese colony. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 08:45 AM (cfSRQ) 287
Ralph Waldo Emerson is mainly famous for having been famous. Almost no one has actually read anything he's written in 100 years. If you do, you'll realize "Oh, so that's where Marianne Williamson got all that stupid crap."
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:46 AM (V2Yro) 288
...Gah!!!
Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:20 AM (m45I2) I thought my comment might get ignored. Glad it wasn't. Here's an example of 'a foolish consistency' -- Marriage is between one man and one woman. A 5,000 year old tradition, trashed as foolish. Emerson was a Unitarian minister and so was dear daddy. As I said, he was a proto-Progressive. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2020 08:46 AM (Z4rgH) 289
It's pretty clear that Iran was afraid of Justin Trudeau's response.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2020 08:37 AM (TLxpZ) They were terrorized at the thought of him dressing up as Ali Baba Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (iiQCS) Pshaw! Shows how much you know, my ignorant fellow! There's no fun to be had dressing up as fellow Caucasian, Ali Baba. Blackface, on the other hand, shows one's sophistication and gives one quite the little frisson of pleasure. Tee-hee. Now away with you, peasant. Posted by: PM Justin Trudeau Applying shoe polish to his face at January 11, 2020 08:46 AM (q57gj) 290
Posted by: ron n. at January 11, 2020 08:41 AM (om5HK)
saf normally makes more sense than your last comment. It has been explained many times over here and elsewhere that the HoR presents the evidence and the Senate judges what evidence that has been presented. So what fix is in , again? Posted by: I'm not Matlock but I did stay at the Holiday Inn Express. at January 11, 2020 08:46 AM (/LQkF) 291
My dimwitted cousin still blames Reagan for AIDS. Every time i see the little rat, he brings up a prez from 35 years ago
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:43 AM (2zIj5) Reagan fucked a monkey and then went to the bathhouses? Posted by: Captain Hate at January 11, 2020 08:47 AM (y7DUB) 292
China Doll is amazing.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:47 AM (PUmDY) Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 08:48 AM (hZVBm) Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 08:48 AM (5IHGB) 295
Reagan fucked a monkey and then went to the bathhouses?
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 11, 2020 08:47 AM (y7DUB) Bonzo was a player..... He was great in "Bathhouse for Bonzo". Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 08:48 AM (Z+IKu) 296
267 Jeez, even the homeless know enough to keep their pants on.
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 08:35 AM (11H2y) === 1. That "pantsless ride" is happening on BART too 2. Your post assumes facts not in evidence, not around here anyway Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2020 08:39 AM (EZebt) Do they still do the naked bike ride? Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 08:49 AM (JFO2v) 297
I'm way too lazy to research this, but maybe some critic pointed out the inconsistencies in Emerson's philosophy. It would be strange for a quote like that to come out of the blue. It's not like people walk around talking about "consistency" all the time. (Unless they're Bill Bellicek.)
Posted by: Caliban at January 11, 2020 08:49 AM (QE8X6) 298
Careful out there olddog. KC streets are icy. I would imagine the interstates are fine but I haven't looked yet.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 08:49 AM (dUJdY) 299
Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh.
********** Perhaps. But not because they were inconsistent. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:49 AM (m45I2) 300
Ralph Waldo Emerson is mainly famous for having been famous. Almost no one has actually read anything he's written in 100 years. If you do, you'll realize "Oh, so that's where Marianne Williamson got all that stupid crap."
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:46 AM (V2Yro) For whatever reason I bought a Library of America edition of his writings. Never been cracked since then. Posted by: Captain Hate at January 11, 2020 08:50 AM (y7DUB) 301
282 My dimwitted cousin still blames Reagan for AIDS. Every time i see the little rat, he brings up a prez from 35 years ago
Posted by: Jonah at January 11, 2020 08:43 AM (2zIj5) It's kind of sad to watch people we know turn into the stereotypical septuagenarian, sitting on a porch and polishing one little nugget that they've been hanging on to for decades. It's especially sad when what they've been cherishing so devoutly is just an old, dried up turd. people like this have always been around, and they eventually die, and everyone who knows them is glad that they're gone. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:50 AM (V2Yro) Posted by: The Goblin at January 11, 2020 08:50 AM (q57gj) 303
No Pants Subway ride - do ppl actually do that?
Posted by: Vmom 2020 at January 11, 2020 08:51 AM (G546f) 304
299 Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh.
********** Perhaps. But not because they were inconsistent. Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:49 AM (m45I2) Jimmy Bond, dancing around the room: "They called Einstein Crazy!" Pretty Girl, strapped to table: "You're wrong, No One ever called Einstein crazy!" Jimmy Bond: "Well they would have if he carried on like this!" Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:52 AM (V2Yro) 305
I think we've gone over this. A hobgoblin is basically an apprentice goblin. They have to log a certain number of hours under a goblin who's licensed to practice goblinry and then they get their ticket. There's an exam or something by the state board of goblins too.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:52 AM (t+qrx) 306
On the other hand, it is generous of Emerson to put himself in the company of Socrates, Jesus, and Newton.
Posted by: Caliban at January 11, 2020 08:53 AM (QE8X6) 307
No pants on the subway?! I don't even want to touch a rail, let alone sit down without pants in some diseased stew of DNA left on a seat.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:53 AM (JoUsr) 308
ELP>RWE
Posted by: a rutabaga and music critic at January 11, 2020 08:53 AM (Tnijr) 309
213 WTF did I just read?
Posted by: rammajamma at January 11, 2020 08:53 AM (SwWMX) 310
For whatever reason I bought a Library of America edition of his writings. Never been cracked since then.
Posted by: Captain Hate I took literature for my electives in grad school. Emerson wrote crap and was probably stoned on whatever was popular at the time. Cut back to Paine, Melville and Clemens for real American literature. Posted by: BifBewalski at January 11, 2020 08:54 AM (VcFUs) 311
You ever get a song stuck in your head and wonder what the hell made you think of it and why won't it go away?
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 08:54 AM (dUJdY) 312
Don't be afraid, just knock on the door.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 08:54 AM (PUmDY) 313
Bonzo was a player.....
He was great in "Bathhouse for Bonzo". Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 08:48 AM (Z+IKu) The drummer for Led Zeppelin was in that movie? Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 08:55 AM (iiQCS) 314
You ever get a song stuck in your head and wonder what the hell made you think of it and why won't it go away?
Posted by: Jewells45 ---- Aka: ear worm Posted by: lin-duh at January 11, 2020 08:55 AM (UUBmN) 315
It's kind of sad to watch people we know turn into the stereotypical septuagenarian, sitting on a porch and polishing one little nugget that they've been hanging on to for decades. It's especially sad when what they've been cherishing so devoutly is just an old, dried up turd.
people like this have always been around, and they eventually die, and everyone who knows them is glad that they're gone. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:50 AM (V2Yro) OTOH the old timers in my home town used to tell me about politics "both parties are worthless tubs of shit" and I'd hope I never got that bitter to feel that way. Guess what... Posted by: Captain Hate at January 11, 2020 08:55 AM (y7DUB) 316
"213 WTF did I just read?"
I think he said he would crush a Ferrari 250 GT in public and call it art. Posted by: a rutabaga and music critic at January 11, 2020 08:56 AM (Tnijr) 317
Just checked the incoming mail today; the only piece is car warranty solicitation junk mail. I wish I could tell the USPS to just hold it until Monday. I'd hate for the mail carrier to have to slog through freezing rain just to deliver that.
https://informeddelivery.usps.com/ Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 08:56 AM (t+qrx) 318
Jewells, that happens to me all the time. Strangely enough, it happens a lot when I wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep. A song will weasel itself in and play over and over...with the sole intention of keeping me awake, I'm sure!
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 08:57 AM (JoUsr) 319
Chesterson's Fence is another example.
A Prog will want the fence torn down "What purpose does it serve?" A conservative will actually investigate the fence first, to answer that question. Maybe it is foolish, but maybe not. Shouldn't we investigate first? Emerson says No. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2020 08:57 AM (Z4rgH) 320
1 8 7 7 K A R S F O R K I D S
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 11, 2020 08:58 AM (VcFUs) Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 08:58 AM (m45I2) 322
This week's media refrain (even the 'conservative' writers)
1) Pelosi is a political genius 2) Pelosi has painted herself into a corner ps - David Harsanyi had his balls removed before joining NR. Maybe they have a hazing ritual? Posted by: Patchy at January 11, 2020 08:59 AM (I/Pe0) 323
Hogmartin, are you an apprentice martin?
Posted by: Vmom 2020 at January 11, 2020 08:59 AM (G546f) 324
316 "213 WTF did I just read?"
I think he said he would crush a Ferrari 250 GT in public and call it art. Posted by: a rutabaga and music critic at January 11, 2020 08:56 AM (Tnijr) I would like to set every letter in that great big mountainside "HOLLYWOOD" sign on fire, and call it art. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 11, 2020 08:59 AM (V2Yro) 325
1̶͙̈ ̶̦̏8̴͇̀ ̶͗ͅ7̷̛̻ ̷̤̃7̵͉̓ ̷̡̾K̷͔̈́ ̵͉͠A̸͍̎ ̶̨̕R̵̭̚ ̵̙͑S̶͇͑ ̵̟͝F̴̡̉ ̶͓͛O̸̤͂ ̴̦̊R̵̖̆ ̷̠̑K̵̨͘ ̴̖̂Ǐ̴̘ ̷̗̉D̶̠̐ ̸̲͒S̴̝̀
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 11, 2020 08:58 AM (VcFUs) Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 09:00 AM (t+qrx) 326
Careful out there olddog. KC streets are icy. I would imagine the interstates are fine but I haven't looked yet.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 08:49 Yeah, but can't avoid trip. Chance wife may get released from hospital today, although Sunday is more likely. She went for chemo on Wed. and they said her levels were bad and admitted her. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 11, 2020 09:00 AM (Dhht7) 327
Iran's foreign minister borrowed the exact language the New York Times, WaPo and Democrats used for the downing of the Ukrainian airliners.
I don't even know what else to say about these people anymore. The media and Democrats are the most anti American forces our country has seen in a long time. God help us if they ever get into power. Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at January 11, 2020 09:01 AM (8/E19) 328
Hogmartin, are you an apprentice martin?
Posted by: Vmom 2020 at January 11, 2020 08:59 AM (G546f) Nope! But thank you for asking. It's a nickname for a mahogany-body Martin guitar that I heard decades ago and thought was hilarious. It just popped into my head when I was thinking up ideas for a handle. Posted by: hogmartin at January 11, 2020 09:01 AM (t+qrx) 329
Socrates, Jesus and Newton walk into a bar. Bartender says, "You guys come here every Friday. Why don't you change it up occasionally like Ralph Waldo suggested?"
Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 09:01 AM (m45I2) 330
Nood.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2020 09:02 AM (Z4rgH) 331
Lady, I'm not sure how or when this started but it's going on the 3rd day and I'm annoyed as hell about it. Even worse it's an awful song. Closing Time. Lord help me.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 09:02 AM (dUJdY) 332
>> Careful out there olddog. KC streets are icy. I would imagine the interstates are fine but I haven't looked yet.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 08:49 Yeah, but can't avoid trip. Chance wife may get released from hospital today, although Sunday is more likely. She went for chemo on Wed. and they said her levels were bad and admitted her. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 11, 2020 09:00 AM (Dhht7) Sorry to hear that, olddog. Posted by: My life is insanity at January 11, 2020 09:02 AM (Z/jzm) 333
'Posted by: BifBewalski at January 11, 2020 08:58 AM'
It's catchy and it's got a god beat. I give it a 7. Posted by: a rutabaga and music critic at January 11, 2020 09:02 AM (Tnijr) 334
Hiya critters. Rainy day here at the Dungeon of Discord.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 11, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ) 335
Sorry olddog. Continued prayers for your wife and you as well.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 09:06 AM (dUJdY) 336
Rainy day here at the Dungeon of Discord.
lol.. I'm using that. Crappy day here too but have some projects to work on.. *wink* Posted by: Jewells45 at January 11, 2020 09:07 AM (dUJdY) 337
Git bizzy, Jewells!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 11, 2020 09:12 AM (Dc2NZ) 338
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Speaking of no justice the Philadelphia DA got a black guy who stabbed a white guy in the back and killed him off with only probation. Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 06:51 AM (ZCEU2) And not a word of it in the national media. Odd that ====== Nothing odd at all, that's how they want it to be. Welcome to your future, white devils! Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at January 11, 2020 09:34 AM (d6mdH) 339
321 That sounds naughty.
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