Reality Show Star Destroys Some Illusions [KT]

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Reality replaces the reality show

There are people who mock real Americans for electing the star of a reality show as president. But many of those same people seem to hang on to really bizarre illusions in the face of reality. For those who have eyes to see, many illusions have been shattered by Donald Trump's presidency. Does anybody here feel the same way about the bureaucracy in Washington D.C. as they did before Trump took office?

Recently, more illusions about the nature of the long war have been destroyed. Doesn't mean the media can't make up some new ones:

If anything may be gleaned from the recent hyperbolic reporting about Iran, it is that our media betters, particularly those reporting on national security issues, are deeply and inexorably challenged at providing reasonable and thoughtful analysis due to a blinding animus towards President Trump.

Nothing evinces this phenomenon more succinctly than the recent days in which supposedly serious national security reporters waxed poetic about the likelihood of World War III, while sharing unverified reports about tens of killings of Americans from Iranian state media. . . .


The level of breathless misinformation and disinformation spread after Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani's killing by the individuals we rely on supposedly to report facts and offer analysis in a responsible and undramatized manner was stunning. But this isn't their first rodeo.

No, such grossly hyperbolic reporting for the sake of convincing people that Trump may have created an epically destructive policy quagmire has become the new calling card of the media. The media has shown that they cannot eviscerate Trump with factual, state-of-affairs reporting because those affairs are never quite dire enough for the media. Similarly, for the sake of avoiding flat-out lying entirely (although it is entertaining to watch the "mistakes" go in one direction), the media is forced to cabin their criticism in fantastic projections.

Trump almost started World War III. Trump almost catalyzed the entire destruction of the Kurds. Trump almost started war with North Korea. Trump almost started a full-blown war between the Palestinian-Arabs and the Israelis. Trump almost devastated the economy by slapping tariffs on Chinese goods. See how much heavy-lifting the word "almost" is doing? It's utterly bizarre, because these predictions never happen. . . .

Iran's Secret War

Sometimes Richard Fernandez has an interesting insight or two. World War III didn't happen, but something else did. Iran has been waging war by proxy for years, but their responsibility for most of this war has largely been ignored. We knew, but we didn't know. Now we know.

Soleimani killed thousands upon thousands, both Americans and others over the years. But secret war is never real until you put a face to it. Soleimani was the man, the Islamic Republic was the regime that no one was supposed to anger lest they turn their baleful glare on us instead of passing by to kill someone else.

That fact can't be hidden anymore, not even by the nuclear deal.

The end of the secret war phase has left Iran with the strategic problem of continuing a campaign it cannot afford to wage openly. But it also left Washington with a situation they can neither continue to deny nor fob off with nonbinding congressional resolutions. . .

How did this situation come to be?

Well, for one thing, the press has been allowing itself to be fooled for a long time. Donald Trump and the mythmakers:

For the past 40-odd years, two narratives have guided American Middle East policy. Both were invented by the Carter administration. One relates to Iran. One relates to Israel.

Both narratives reject reality as the basis for foreign policy decision-making in favor of delusion. Over the past two months, President Donald Trump has rejected and disavowed them both. His opponents are apoplectic.

As far as Iran is concerned, as journalist Lee Smith explained in Tablet online magazine this week, when Iranian "students" seized the US Embassy in Tehran in November 1979 and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days, they placed the Carter administration in a dilemma: If President Jimmy Carter acknowledged that the "students" weren't students, but soldiers of Iran's dictator Ayatollah Khomeini, the US would be compelled to fight back. And Carter and his advisers didn't want to do that.

So rather than admit the truth, Carter accepted the absurd fiction spun by the regime that Khomeini was an innocent bystander who, try as he might, couldn't get a bunch of "students" in central Tehran to free the hostages. .

So too, as Smith noted, the Carter administration was propelled by guilt. The worldviews of many members of the administration had been shaped on radical university campuses in the 1960s. . . .

Khomeini and his "Death to America" shouting followers got the message. They understood that Washington had given them a green light to attack Americans in moderate and, as Smith put it, "plausibly deniable" doses. it. For the next 40 years, Iran maintained its aggression against America. And from Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama, every president since Carter accepted and kept faith with Carter's decision not to hold the Iranian regime responsible for the acts of aggression and war it carried out against America through proxies.

Stunning.

Illusions among our friends are also possible today. I have run across some people this week who believe that no one in Iran outside of the Iranian government could have supported the murderous General Soleimani.

Here's a rather balanced dose of reality from Small Dead Animals, an interview with an Iranian-Canadian who grew up in Tehran, an ex-Muslim who does not support Trump, but whose analysis of the attitudes of the Iranian people is interesting. He suggests that they really, really hate Sunnis and Arabs. One reason many of them supported Soleimani.

He also mentions the importation of boys from Afghanistan to fight and die in Soleimani's proxy wars. A human rights topic that is not discussed much.

He talks about the pride of even secular Iranians in the growing influence of their country in the region. And he reminds us that "Quds", the name of the force headed up by Soleimani, means "Jerusalem".

We do not suddenly have peace in the Middle East, despite the recent steps in the right direction.

Also included at the link: Trudeau insults Trump. Not in English, but in French.

Never mind. Some people are being forced to face reality. Hope this trend continues.

Music and Dance

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1 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 11, 2020 11:18 AM (arJlL)

2 There are people who mock real Americans for electing the star of a reality show as president.


Which is like saying Bill Clinton was just a sax player. Or Reagan was just a baseball announcer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2020 11:23 AM (oVJmc)

3 I've been to see a stage production of The Nutcracker. In your video above, the central dancer is quite hot, as was the girl in the stage production. I think it's a requirement in the casting.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:24 AM (MMdM/)

4 Hiya, JT.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at January 11, 2020 11:24 AM (BVQ+1)

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The arabian nutcracker is nothing compared to Dingis Khan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paiQRSpg4Aw

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 11:25 AM (swXWo)

6 In your video above, the central dancer is quite hot, as was the girl in the stage production. I think it's a requirement in the casting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

How do they test for that ? Put an ice cube in her cleavage ? And note the melt time ?

Posted by: JT at January 11, 2020 11:26 AM (arJlL)

7 Canada would be a western state of Russia without the US.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 11:26 AM (JFO2v)

8 In your video above, the central dancer is quite hot, as was the girl in the stage production. I think it's a requirement in the casting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

How do they test for that ? Put an ice cube in her cleavage ? And note the melt time ?
Posted by: JT at January 11, 2020


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Check the trouser reaction of any of the straight male dancers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:27 AM (MMdM/)

9 8

Check the trouser reaction of any of the straight male dancers.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:27 AM (MMdM/)

There are straight male dancers??

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 11:28 AM (JFO2v)

10 I didn't mean to make you mad.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 11:28 AM (PUmDY)

11 Canada would be a western state of Russia without the US.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020 11:26 AM (JFO2v)

Counterfactual historical novel:

Russia never sells Alaska and it becomes the Tsarist independent state after the Revolution.

Posted by: Vanya at January 11, 2020 11:29 AM (U7voe)

12 Khomeini and his "Death to America" shouting followers got the message.
They understood that Washington had given them a green light to attack
Americans in moderate and, as Smith put it, "plausibly deniable" doses.
it. For the next 40 years, Iran maintained its aggression against
America. And from Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama, every president since
Carter accepted and kept faith with Carter's decision not to hold the
Iranian regime responsible for the acts of aggression and war it carried
out against America through proxies.


See? This is what happens when you have a weakling as President. He should've given the Iranians an ultimatum to release the hostages at once or there'd be hell to pay. Then let our military off the leash and let them have some fun with our sworn enemies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at January 11, 2020 11:30 AM (HaL55)

13 Ok, I'm gonna continue where I left off...

What I'm seeing so far, of the prince's horrible wife:

1. She lacks class
2. She's a lefty
3. She's not good enough for our precious prince

Seriously folks, I'm having a hard time separating these people for the real world, and as such, I still don't know what this woman has supposed to have done that's so bad.

And frankly, "she's taking her little precious husband away from his family" doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. That family is hot garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

14 Check the trouser reaction of any of the straight male dancers.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:27 AM (MMdM/)

There are straight male dancers??
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 11, 2020


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A vanishing breed, like the buffalo. Bob Fosse was one, for instance. And when I had to take dance for the stage, I was probably not the only student in the class who had trouble concentrating on something besides the leotard-clad forms of the girls.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:31 AM (MMdM/)

15 Photos of Soleimani's freshly killed corpse are to be found by googling "photos of Soleimani corpse."

I suspect he looked a lot better before his close encounter with a Hellfire missile. He looks crispy & has lost some appendages.

The article Ace links too at Small Dead Animals is quite interesting, btw.

Posted by: mnw at January 11, 2020 11:32 AM (Cssks)

16 The death of corporate media cannot come soon enough. These people should be hounded day in and day out, wherever they may be, as stupid, treasonous pieces of crap that nobody with a shred of common sense listens to or believes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2020 11:33 AM (3H9h1)

17 Here I am baby

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 11:34 AM (PUmDY)

18 In your video above, the central dancer is quite hot, as was the girl in the stage production.

At first I thought she was wearing an ayatollah beard. As the lighting improved, I could finally make out the veil.

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM (g0Lfb)

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I don't think I've ever seen a "smashburger" store near me. Had never heard of "smashburger" until recently.

Guess what?
Fake News and all local fake news want you to know that this smashburger place is having a special debut off their chicken sandwich this Sunday. (This isn't news, it's an advertisement.)

Fake News even included the hash tag in their advertisement for the woke company. I'm not going to type the hash tag. I'll tell you it has something to do with being pro-homo and anti-normal under the guise of being inclusive.

How do you like that, chik-fil-a? You sold out. You betrayed your customers and yourselves. This is the thanks you get from the Left and Fake News.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM (swXWo)

20 Still baffled that sixth in line for the throne of Britain is such a big deal in Britain let alone any place else.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM (B06Zw)

21 In your video above, the central dancer is quite hot, as was the girl in the stage production.

At first I thought she was wearing an ayatollah beard. As the lighting improved, I could finally make out the veil.
Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2020


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I was distracted by her other features and didn't even notice the veil!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM (MMdM/)

22 And frankly, "she's taking her little precious husband away from his family" doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. That family is hot garbage.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

In any other family, this would be not news. You are correct that the only reason anybody gives a rip about this is because he's a royal.

I guess the reason people hate her is that she's yet another example of leftists worming their way in and twisting the host to serve the needs they want.

Posted by: Vanya at January 11, 2020 11:36 AM (U7voe)

23 Wilson, Roosevelt, Carter, Clinton, and Barky. The five presidents that made everything we see today possible.

Posted by: Sooner at January 11, 2020 11:36 AM (Fs5vw)

24 I read the post, got to the comments and.. whatever the post was about gets pushed out by the realization that I coulda been, well, maybe third.

My thinking is that the number of people who are pleased by Soli's death, including within the PTB in Iran, is larger than they are letting on.

"Oh, oh dear! He's dead! Oh, my! Whew! *shoot off a few missles in the USA's direction as thank-you firecrackers* Thank Allah &ellip; and Trump!"

And those that do support him are just stuck in ancient-tribal attitudes: :Oh, Corn-Pop protected our side and butchered everyone else; he made us feel safe and protected."

Posted by: mindful webworker - top 1000! at January 11, 2020 11:37 AM (yT7Mu)

25 Yeah, okay, we did it. At this point what difference does it really make?

Posted by: Iran at January 11, 2020 11:37 AM (msPO3)

26 Burt, she is the poster child for don't-stick-your-dick-in-crazy. In every photo of her, it's clear she is "on", playing the role in her head of what she thinks is appropriate for the occasion. I've yet to see a flicker of anything "normal" when looking at her. It's all for show.

Shorter version: she redlines my narc-meter.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:37 AM (2GPSc)

27 Oh, and Johnson. Six presidents that have made destruction of this country their goal.

Posted by: Sooner at January 11, 2020 11:38 AM (Fs5vw)

28 Back from grocery shopping. In before the storms hit Huntsville.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 11, 2020 11:38 AM (VcFUs)

29 For Once in My Life is ridiculously great

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 11:38 AM (PUmDY)

30

Wilson, Roosevelt, Carter, Clinton, and Barky. The five presidents that made everything we see today possible.

Posted by: Sooner at January 11, 2020 11:36 AM (Fs5vw)



Lyndon Baines Johnson: What am I? Chopped scumbag?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 11:39 AM (EMCcL)

31 Iran's proxy war which I agree on has been going on with the help of Democrats

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 11:39 AM (ZCEU2)

32 Wilson, Roosevelt, Carter, Clinton, and Barky. The five presidents that made everything we see today possible.
Posted by: Sooner at January 11, 2020


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Don't forget LBJ and his Great Society crap.

Makes you wish for the days of Calvin Coolidge. He was an R when it meant something, and was famously a "hands off the economy" man. Leftists like Dorothy Parker hated him even then.

When told Coolidge had died, Dorothy is supposed to have said, "How could they tell?"

(The rarely-printed followup is that her buddy Robert Benchley was supposed to have replied, "He had an erection.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:39 AM (MMdM/)

33 64 degrees here, global warming is great so suck it up.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 11:40 AM (ZCEU2)

34 I feel like this is the beginning.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 11:40 AM (PUmDY)

35 th

Posted by: jwmiii at January 11, 2020 11:41 AM (ii2y5)

36 the mixed race American now duchess who claims England is racist runs back to canada where the leader is a white commie who wears blackface.... regularly.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2020 11:41 AM (0O7c5)

37 @26
I think you could see that the day of the wedding. She was playing a role of a dazzled 19 year old when in reality she's a 40ish thrice-married woman whose background has been carefully scrubbed.

Posted by: artemis at January 11, 2020 11:41 AM (AwPyG)

38 Great post. Thanks.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at January 11, 2020 11:41 AM (d9Cw3)

39 Still baffled that sixth in line for the throne of Britain is such a big deal in Britain let alone any place else.


Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM

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There was a movie about that. Can't remember the name but John Goodman was in it. The plot was the entire Royal family was electrocuted while taking a family photo and they had to find a new King and finally found Goodman had some Royal blood in him and brought him in to be the new King.


Pretty funny movie.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (JUOKG)

40 -The Nutcracker-

Any of you guys ever go to a ballet? I went once on a date, it's a tough balancing act for guys. You have to try not to fantasize to much about the hot chicks while wondering how any of this is artistic or even entertaining while pretending to have a good time so your date might show you how much she appreciates you going. Which brings you back to fantasizing about the ballerinas.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (4thlk)

41 I don't care whether anyone thinks I'm a bad person for wanting salami dead. He was a terrorist a-hole. Now he isn't. There are several tens of thousands more just like him that need the same treatment so that part of the world can grow past the caliphate bullshit indoctrination.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (VcFUs)

42 Any of you guys ever go to a ballet? I went once on a date, it's a tough balancing act for guys. You have to try not to fantasize to much about the hot chicks while wondering how any of this is artistic or even entertaining while pretending to have a good time so your date might show you how much she appreciates you going. Which brings you back to fantasizing about the ballerinas.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (4thlk)

Great bodies, gnarly feet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)

43 64 degrees here, global warming is great so suck it up.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020


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Something like 75 here. A good 40 degrees above what it should be. When locals yammer about "It's perfect weather," I ask 'em if they'd want their summer temps to be 40 above "normal" -- which here would make an August day something like 135 F.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (MMdM/)

44 I told and told and told my the boys to be wary when they marry. Alas, I wasn't a very good example.

Posted by: Prince Charles at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (msPO3)

45 And frankly, "she's taking her little precious husband away from his family" doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. That family is hot garbage.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

In any other family, this would be not news. You are correct that the only reason anybody gives a rip about this is because he's a royal.

I guess the reason people hate her is that she's yet another example of leftists worming their way in and twisting the host to serve the needs they want.
Posted by: Vanya at January 11, 2020 11:36 AM (U7voe)


I suppose if she was using her platform to corrupt the moral certitude of the British people, to live as a free and dignified people, I'd be steamed about it.

But Britain has no morals or dignity.

So she's a soap opera character, and as of right now, the villain.

Even though her late mother in law was a whore, who died with her boyfriend after a car chase, and her father in law is a simpering rich white guy who goes around sucking up to the common people by complaining what evil assholes rich white guys are.

And grandma seems to be the only sane one, but then all she she does is sit around "looking" dignified, saying pretty much nothing, because really, what is there to say.

So yeah, in the end I'm going to chalk this one up, the fact that people hate this broad, the black girl who married the prince, to the fact that people get bored and they like drama.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

46 I've gone to the ballet. It was the interesting, but I was exhausted and fell asleep for about half of it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 11, 2020 11:44 AM (HyWmK)

47 "The Real Housewives of Westminster Abbey"

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 11:44 AM (m45I2)

48 So... what's the point of the veil? To hide her enticing teeth?

Posted by: GuyFromNH at January 11, 2020 11:44 AM (Gs5TH)

49
The Iran story isn't even the top headline at the Clown News Network. What is their top story? ":Trump's changing Iran story is costing him support". So Iran admitting to killing 176 people is meh compared to taking more shots at Trump

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 11:44 AM (EMCcL)

50 Wilson, Roosevelt, Carter, Clinton, and Barky. The five presidents that made everything we see today possible.

Presidents: we sure know how to pick'em, don't we?

#WASTF

PDT was the right man for the right time, for once. I sure hope he awakens the LIV's to all the bad stuff that's going on in DC so we can start to clean out the pestilence of progressivism from our country.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at January 11, 2020 11:44 AM (HaL55)

51 it's a good thing to get away from your crazy family and run into the arms of the oprah and the obamas who are now giving you advice as to how to breakaway.....oprah who is tied to so many con-artists and scandals and the obama's who are con-artists....and scandal ridden.....lol.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2020 11:45 AM (0O7c5)

52 Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:43 AM


you really hate the royals huh

Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 11:45 AM (iTXRQ)

53 64 degrees here, global warming is great so suck it up.

First indoor event of the winter season for me tomorrow. Last year, everything was covered in ice, so I don't want to hear anyone talking bad about global warming!

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2020 11:46 AM (CE5C/)

54 the mixed race American now duchess who claims England is racist runs back to canada where the leader is a white commie who wears blackface.... regularly....

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Drudge suggests that they're going to Hollyweird, that Okra is advising them and that they've already signed with (who else?) Disney.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)

55 There was a movie about that. Can't remember the
name but John Goodman was in it. The plot was the entire Royal family
was electrocuted while taking a family photo and they had to find a new
King and finally found Goodman had some Royal blood in him and brought
him in to be the new King.


Pretty funny movie.


Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (JUOKG)


King Ralph. Peter O'Toole and John Hurt were good in it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 11:46 AM (EMCcL)

56 Fake News and all local fake news want you to know that this smashburger place is having a special debut off their chicken sandwich this Sunday. (This isn't news, it's an advertisement.)

The local newspaper does this a lot. A Facebook blast about a business opening (kinda news) that's all about the great deals and food (advertising). Or just "this business is having a sale" or "this business has a new product." That's not news. Its just flat out advertising.

The worst example of lazy news was the string of stories about the Golden Globes after the show. Every one of them carried the same stories. None of them mentioned Ricky Gervais going full flamethrower. All were clearly press releases sent out by the Golden Globes. It was pathetic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 11:47 AM (KZzsI)

57 If more ballet was like that Nutcracker segment I might show more interest. But the corps de tutus prancing about on stage and a couple of lead dancers striking dramatic attitudes just makes me fidgety.

And don't get me started on modern dance. It eliminates the good parts of ballet in order to focus on the boring and pretentious stuff.

The last time I paid to see a dance performance I did it by stuffing bills in the dancer's stocking.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 11, 2020 11:47 AM (urZJh)

58 I think you could see that the day of the wedding. She was playing a role of a dazzled 19 year old when in reality she's a 40ish thrice-married woman whose background has been carefully scrubbed.
Posted by: artemis

In all of the news stories and photos of her, it's brutally apparent that the whole thing has been stage managed for effect. Everything has the feel of "how does this make me look, how will I be perceived" ...(soup kitchens, the "reveal" of the newborn, the release of her new "trademark" the M topped by a crown). She's not living her life, she's a star in the biggest role of her life.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (2GPSc)

59 You have to try not to fantasize to much about the hot chicks while wondering how any of this is artistic or even entertaining while pretending to have a good time so your date might show you how much she appreciates you going. Which brings you back to fantasizing about the ballerinas.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (4thlk)

Great bodies, gnarly feet.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 11, 2020


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If the ballerinas are wearing those slippers, you can't see their feet. The dancer in the posted vid is barefoot, which is great, but you're right, pro dancers really beat their feet up.

When Linda wanted to see The Nutcracker, I took it as a good thing on several levels. It was her Xmas present; I wanted to see how the downtown theater, where I used to watch movies as a kid, looked now; and I was curious about the staging and the set as well as the dancing.

Why? Once upon a time, when pterodactyls soared above the Earth and Nixon and Ford were presidents, I was a drama major. (Yes, you can be straight and be a drama major. Some of the hottest girls I ever dated were my castmates.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (MMdM/)

60 Sadly, Reagan also played games with Iran.

We KNEW they were behind the Barracks Bombing in 83, yet would not go after them in public, and our withdrawing from Lebanon was seen as a victory by Iran. They then proceeded to slowly take over the country, and Hezbollah was formed.

Now, he did help forment the Iran Iraq war (1980-198, which kept them partly busy, but his eye was on the Soviets.

Then Bush Senior, who with a HUGE show of Force, did Desert Storm, halfway. I remember sitting on my Destroyer in the Gulf asking 'what, we're stopping?'

Posted by: Don Q at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (NgKpN)

61 Burt, she is the poster child for don't-stick-your-dick-in-crazy. In every photo of her, it's clear she is "on", playing the role in her head of what she thinks is appropriate for the occasion. I've yet to see a flicker of anything "normal" when looking at her. It's all for show.

Shorter version: she redlines my narc-meter.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:37 AM (2GPSc)


Sure.

People compare her to Yoko. Yoko broke up the Beatles, she brainwashed John, she was crazy and weird.

But you know who loved Yoko? John did.

So I don't think it matters one bit that everyone else thought Yoko was bad for him. He didn't, and frankly the rest of the world can go f**k itself, when it comes to couples and their happiness.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (hku12)

62 >Does anybody here feel the same way about the bureaucracy in Washington D.C. as they did before Trump took office?

absolutely

I despised them all save for the FBI and the armed forces. Now I'm down to just the armed forces.

Last time I checked the USGovt had over 2,500,000 employees, which reminded me of that line from the Declaration: "...He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 11:49 AM (iTXRQ)

63 I believe that a majority of likely voters don't read much beyond their texts and Facebook, and have been convinced that Trump brought us to the cliff of WW3 and nuclear war, and that it was the integrity of the Iranian leaders that prevented it.

And while that majority is slim, it will hold, because the ruling class will push the narrative.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 11, 2020 11:49 AM (LA4t8)

64 Iran's regime and its policies are so popular in the country that thousands of protesters must be shot and imprisoned, and the internet and social media shut off or filtered.

And the protests routinely feature specific denunciations of the regime's foreign adventures and interference.

Also very misleading to ignore the enormous differences in policies between different US administrations.

The common failure was indeed not confronting/punishing Iran nearly enough for its proxy attacks on Americans/American interests - but there were great and consequential differences in policies over the 40 years.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2020 11:49 AM (El6T/)

65 Thread Before the Gardening Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at January 11, 2020 11:50 AM (MVjcR)

66 So yeah, in the end I'm going to chalk this one up, the fact that people hate this broad, the black girl who married the prince, to the fact that people get bored and they like drama.
Posted by: BurtTC

If that were true, the same would more than likely be true of Kate. But it's not, because Kate comes across as genuinely likable, a very real woman who enjoys the life she is living. It's something you can either discern, or not.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:51 AM (2GPSc)

67 >And while that majority is slim, it will hold, because the ruling class will push the narrative.

you'd think at some point they'd notice that WW3 had in fact NOT started

Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 11:51 AM (iTXRQ)

68 She's the sickest thing in this world. The Stones are amazing.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 11:51 AM (PUmDY)

69 That analysis of middle east policy seems dead on to me as well. Reagan was very set against actually doing anything about most of the horrors perpetrated against the US in the Middle East, he wanted no wars or invasions. I think oil played a big part, I think Saudi dollars did as well. But mostly I think presidents saw it as a huge quagmire they didn't want to partake in.

Bush was the only president who was willing to pull the trigger and actually treat Iran as the foe it was. He didn't directly attack them but the theory he used was sound enough, other than leftist treason and weak American will to carry out the task.

If we had a press and entertainment media all in on fighting terrorism and Islam, like in WW2, yeah probably could have worked. It just takes a 24 hour, 7 days a week full press effort to get Americans willing to put up with the long fight. And we just don't have that. The Greatest Generation wasn't inherently superior to us in this. They just had the moral support and constant urging to keep going.

And even with that, they were getting mighty sick of it after just 5 years.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 11:51 AM (KZzsI)

70 Today is supposed to tie record from 70s, but then if it got that warm then why not again?

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)

71 Sadly, Reagan also played games with Iran.

We KNEW they were behind the Barracks Bombing in 83, yet would not go after them in public, and our withdrawing from Lebanon was seen as a victory by Iran. They then proceeded to slowly take over the country, and Hezbollah was formed.

Now, he did help forment the Iran Iraq war (1980-198, which kept them partly busy, but his eye was on the Soviets.

Then Bush Senior, who with a HUGE show of Force, did Desert Storm, halfway. I remember sitting on my Destroyer in the Gulf asking 'what, we're stopping?'
Posted by: Don Q at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (NgKpN)


Reagan's foreign policy team was too busy playing Hunt For Red October with the Soviets to fret too much about Iran.

If you work in the State Department, half your kink is trying to one up the Department of Defense, and vice versa. A bunch of deep staters, deep statin', in other words.

Same as it ever was.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

72 I have seen The Nutcracker a couple times, and to be honest I do not understand why parents take their young children to see it, especially those in the 3-6 years old range. They're generally fine through the first half, but after the intermission they're either fidgety or fall asleep, and I saw quite a few people leaving before the end as a result.


(Heck, I was bored during the second half.)

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 11:52 AM (pXNaM)

73 And while that majority is slim, it will hold, because the ruling class will push the narrative.



you'd think at some point they'd notice that WW3 had in fact NOT started


Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 11:51 AM

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Or that they actually didn't get drafted to get killed in WWIII.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 11, 2020 11:52 AM (JUOKG)

74 I almost won the billion dollar lottery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (aKsyK)

75 It's true. I don't view the FBI, the CIA and the semi-permanent Senators and Representatives and the bureaucracy as benign and semi corrupt but on our side mostly any more. All this wailing over Salami + pallets of cash from Obumbles + Clinton / Biden money laundering pattern = Trump directly over swamp target on another fleece, launder and self enrich scheme. Boards of directors, charities, foundations, speakers fees all ring grifty. Never looked at it that way before. I also feel that all this drip drip drip of how it is has reached collective conciousness beyond audiences like the Horde of late.

Posted by: piratepatch at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (9vQpJ)

76 Does anybody here feel the same way about the bureaucracy in Washington D.C. as they did before Trump took office?

absolutely

I despised them all save for the FBI and the armed forces. Now I'm down to just the armed forces.

Last time I checked the USGovt had over 2,500,000 employees, which reminded me of that line from the Declaration: "...He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

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I think that the sea change of the Trump administration is not his policies but rather that a huge percentage of the population now don't trust government, the media or the Democrats and, in fact, hate them and think of them as evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

77 Totally OT:

If there were a food equivalent for onomatopeia, what would be a better example, gruel, goulash, or porridge?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (m45I2)

78 I believe that a majority of likely voters don't read much beyond their texts and Facebook, and have been convinced that Trump brought us to the cliff of WW3 and nuclear war, and that it was the integrity of the Iranian leaders that prevented it.

I don't think so. I think most people believe that Iran is a buncha bad guys and that they backed down before the USA, again. And I think that's as far as it goes in their minds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 11:54 AM (KZzsI)

79 For forty years Iranians have been indoctrinated beyond normal healthy ethnic and national pride into the racial hatred and self superiority that Germans had only received for for about ten (before WWII).

That and the fact that the ME Nazi Wannabees didn't get the thorough ass-kicking they so very much deserved to end WWII is not good for the future.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 11:54 AM (1g7ch)

80 If there were a food equivalent for onomatopeia, what would be a better example, gruel, goulash, or porridge?

Cornmeal mush

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 11:54 AM (KZzsI)

81 Mr. Scott. The movie's title is King Ralph.

Posted by: Bete at January 11, 2020 11:54 AM (Ojki1)

82 So yeah, in the end I'm going to chalk this one up, the fact that people hate this broad, the black girl who married the prince, to the fact that people get bored and they like drama.
Posted by: BurtTC

If that were true, the same would more than likely be true of Kate. But it's not, because Kate comes across as genuinely likable, a very real woman who enjoys the life she is living. It's something you can either discern, or not.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:51 AM (2GPSc)


Yeah, I get it. Kate's classy (and white).

This one's trash.

And the reason you care is.... why, exactly?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)

83 Everything that happens they claim is President Trump's fault and will hurt his poll numbers, but nothing like that has hapoened yet.
6 months from now and no war started all that chattering will be forgotten.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 11:55 AM (ZCEU2)

84 The last time I paid to see a dance performance I did it by stuffing bills in the dancer's stocking.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 11, 2020 11:47 AM


It's one way to pay for nursing school without student loans.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 11, 2020 11:55 AM (r6GXX)

85 Then Bush Senior, who with a HUGE show of Force, did Desert Storm, halfway. I remember sitting on my Destroyer in the Gulf asking 'what, we're stopping?'

He kind of had to (no mandate or legal basis for going further) but yeah. Schwarzkopf's decision to not continue annihilating the Iraqi forces on the "Death Road" was stupid and wrong. You can't do this stuff half way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)

86 I have seen The Nutcracker a couple times, and to be honest I do not understand why parents take their young children to see it, especially those in the 3-6 years old range. They're generally fine through the first half, but after the intermission they're either fidgety or fall asleep, and I saw quite a few people leaving before the end as a result.


(Heck, I was bored during the second half.)
Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020


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Do kids today even know what a nutcracker is? Don't they get their walnuts and so forth already cracked and in a can?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 11, 2020 11:56 AM (MMdM/)

87 Can anyone translate the Trump slur Castro's blackface spawn said in French? i need to get my heartrate up before I go for my walk.

Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 11:56 AM (11H2y)

88 Whoopsie - … not &ellip; … Because just using the characters is too 21st Century.

Posted by: mindful webworker - pixies > gremlins :) at January 11, 2020 11:56 AM (yT7Mu)

89 54
the mixed race American now duchess who claims England is racist runs
back to canada where the leader is a white commie who wears
blackface.... regularly....



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Drudge suggests that they're going to Hollyweird, that Okra is
advising them and that they've already signed with (who else?) Disney.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)
they'll probably go back and forth anywhere and anywhere until they wear people out....they have not treated family or old friends kindly....the new ones will tire of them too.......
i saw that she took a donation to do a voice over for disney....quid pro quo. as part of the firm...it's my understanding that everything they do has to be approved by the crown....there are legal implications that are being fought over right now. an odd thing about the Christmas card they sent out....her face (photo shopped) in focus....kid's face in focus....but the prince? blurred....like fading out....she's going to take that kid away from him....already friends are floating that his mental health is not good....carrying heavy loads since his mother's death....the clock is ticking....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2020 11:56 AM (0O7c5)

90 >>>>And don't get me started on modern dance. It eliminates the good parts
of ballet in order to focus on the boring and pretentious stuff.<<<<<

Danny Kaye felt the same way,

https://tinyurl.com/y87gmmxs

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 11, 2020 11:57 AM (3DZIZ)

91 Ko Melina has a very sexy voice

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 11:57 AM (PUmDY)

92 I for one cannot wait to not watch the TV series "Being Royals" What is odd is Harry is said to hate the presstitutes, blames them for Di's death and all and yet with the Meghan marriage and now "we want to be independent" they ware relying on fame and paid endorsements. But their little son featured in the Christmas card is a cutie. I hope he comes out minimally scathed.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 11, 2020 11:58 AM (n4y+3)

93 I'm dancing on hot coals down here. Uncle Ted and Senor Juan are teaching me to pirouette.

Posted by: Zombie Salami at January 11, 2020 11:59 AM (EgshT)

94 He kind of had to (no mandate or legal basis for going further) but yeah. Schwarzkopf's decision to not continue annihilating the Iraqi forces on the "Death Road" was stupid and wrong. You can't do this stuff half way.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)

That was not Schwarzkopf, that came from DC.

Operational plans were in place to continue.

Note, Schwarzkopf retired soon after, even though his cache as a 'Wartime General' should have led him to Bigger Assignments.

Posted by: Don Q at January 11, 2020 12:00 PM (NgKpN)

95 Yeah, I get it. Kate's classy (and white).

This one's trash.

And the reason you care is.... why, exactly?
Posted by: BurtTC

This one's trashiness has nothing to do with her skin color, or lack thereof.

My visceral reaction to her is similar to the one I had wrt Obama and his beard. It has to do with a negative gut reaction to a grifter, a charlatan, a fraud.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 12:00 PM (2GPSc)

96 The last time I paid to see a dance performance I did it by stuffing bills in the dancer's stocking.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 11, 2020 11:47 AM



It's one way to pay for nursing school without student loans.



Posted by: Chuck C at January 11, 2020 11:55 AM

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I actually met one who paid for 4 years of Connecticut College by stripping. Tuition there is $50,000 a year.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 11, 2020 12:00 PM (JUOKG)

97 Totally OT:

If there were a food equivalent for onomatopeia, what would be a better example, gruel, goulash, or porridge?
Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (m45I2)


Porridge is the most onomatopeiaic, I think.

But gruel creates a verbal image that seems more descriptive.

Like hash and squash and gumbo, you kinda know what you're getting from the word.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)

98 Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 11, 2020 11:58 AM (n4y+3)

And it will be called?

The Aristocrats.

/rimshot

Posted by: Don Q at January 11, 2020 12:00 PM (NgKpN)

99 13 Ok, I'm gonna continue where I left off...



What I'm seeing so far, of the prince's horrible wife:



1. She lacks class

2. She's a lefty

3. She's not good enough for our precious prince



Seriously folks, I'm having a hard time separating these people for
the real world, and as such, I still don't know what this woman has
supposed to have done that's so bad.



And frankly, "she's taking her little precious husband away from his
family" doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. That family is hot
garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)


Well, it might be compared to a football game between two teams that you dislike or that you don't care about.

On the one hand, you've got a Queen and royal family that have presided over the dimunition of Great Britain from a world-wide colossus to a mewling police state. On the other, you have a B-list SJW wannabe who wants to leave them behind and monetize her new cachet on the woke celebrity circuit.

Or you could just look at the whole episode as just another rachet down Britain's descent into oblivion.

Fool, Britannia!
She's sunk beneath the waves.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:01 PM (YqED9)

100 TV series "Being Royals"

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How about "Royal Flush"?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)

101 >That was not Schwarzkopf, that came from DC.

Norman wanted to do a Sherman-like march all the way to Baghdad, but was reined in

Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 12:01 PM (iTXRQ)

102 Big twitter brouhaha because Michael Tracey just called neontaster garbage. Then proceeds to out neontaster by name and as John Podhoretz' nephew.

Posted by: ArtGriego at January 11, 2020 12:01 PM (BhG3W)

103 If Clowney is indeed docked, it would mark the second time he received a fine for a hit on an Eagles quarterback. In November 2018, Clowney was fined $40,110 for a late hit on Nick Foles, while Clowney was with the Texans. It was Clowney's second fine for a hit on a quarterback that season, just one week after he was fined for a hit on Jets quarterback Sam Darnold.

Posted by: SMOD at January 11, 2020 12:02 PM (X5CsJ)

104 And he reminds us that "Quds", the name of the force headed up by Soleimani, means "Jerusalem".


_______



Did not know that. Thanks, KT.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:02 PM (WqPYg)

105 Yeah, I get it. Kate's classy (and white).

This one's trash.

And the reason you care is.... why, exactly?
Posted by: BurtTC

This one's trashiness has nothing to do with her skin color, or lack thereof.

My visceral reaction to her is similar to the one I had wrt Obama and his beard. It has to do with a negative gut reaction to a grifter, a charlatan, a fraud.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 12:00 PM (2GPSc)


Got it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)

106 That was not Schwarzkopf, that came from DC.

In his book, he takes the full credit and responsibility for the decision. That, and letting the Iraqis keep using helicopters.

I don't know if that's true or not but he claims it was his call.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

107 "trademark" the M topped by a crown). She's not living her life, she's a star in the biggest role of her life.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (2GPSc)


I think McDonalds has that already for it's Big Mac (AKA 'Royal') in France.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 12:06 PM (1g7ch)

108 Chris Carter's British Invasion is very good stuff

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:06 PM (PUmDY)

109 77
Totally OT:



If there were a food equivalent for onomatopeia, what would be a better example, gruel, goulash, or porridge?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (m45I2)

________


Kaboom!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:07 PM (WqPYg)

110 >In his book, he takes the full credit and responsibility for the decision.



I was misinformed.

Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 12:07 PM (iTXRQ)

111 The strip joints near UCLA have dancers that seemingly are all Bruins. Silver Reign in particular. So I've heard.

Posted by: West LA at January 11, 2020 12:07 PM (msPO3)

112 See: MST3K - The Final Sacrifice: The Canada Song

Posted by: klaftern at January 11, 2020 12:07 PM (RuIsu)

113 BurtTC, as I said in the last thread, one of the things air-brushed from Markle's background is another son from a previous marriage, whom she apparently has no connection with any longer. Okay, it happened before Harry met her, but if anyone should understand the pain of a motherless boy, it should be Harry. Yet he lets it happen. Shame on them both.

Posted by: Wenda at January 11, 2020 12:08 PM (oS/8T)

114 Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

Well, it might be compared to a football game between two teams that you dislike or that you don't care about.

On the one hand, you've got a Queen and royal family that have presided over the dimunition of Great Britain from a world-wide colossus to a mewling police state. On the other, you have a B-list SJW wannabe who wants to leave them behind and monetize her new cachet on the woke celebrity circuit.

Or you could just look at the whole episode as just another rachet down Britain's descent into oblivion.

Fool, Britannia!
She's sunk beneath the waves.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:01 PM (YqED9)


Yes, it's entertainment for the common folk, who like looking down their noses at the decadence of the royals.

It's roughly comparable to watching a linebacker lay out a quarterback you hate.

And why do you hate the quarterback?

Who cares! Kill the sonofabitch!

And I say, why shouldn't she cash in.

If Chelsea Hubble can make 9 mil doing nothing, this broad ought to be able to make some money. At least she's good looking.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)

115 By the way, BertTC, does anyone know when or if your boss is gonna get back in the funny-paper game? (Or did he die? That seems to ring a bell.)

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:08 PM (YqED9)

116 Foodomotopaeia-


Quiche?

Soufflé

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 12:09 PM (m45I2)

117 It's all right, in fact it's a gas.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:09 PM (PUmDY)

118 That video would be much improved by giving the audience some cough drops.

Dancer was hawt, and that's one of my favorite parts of the Nutcracker, but the coughing!

It made Kevin Williamson freak out and slap a bitch.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 12:09 PM (cfSRQ)

119 I campaign for the extinction of the human race

https://bit.ly/30jeu2U

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That seems an extreme reaction to Harry and Meghan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:10 PM (+y/Ru)

120 I was misinformed.

Maybe, but maybe he just fell on his sword, its hard to know, exactly. I mean, the responsibility was his, as commander in the region but it may not have been his call.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

121 BurtTC, as I said in the last thread, one of the things air-brushed from Markle's background is another son from a previous marriage, whom she apparently has no connection with any longer. Okay, it happened before Harry met her, but if anyone should understand the pain of a motherless boy, it should be Harry. Yet he lets it happen. Shame on them both.
Posted by: Wenda at January 11, 2020 12:08 PM (oS/8T)


Where's the kid now, and how do you know he's not happy?

Lots of kids are better off with adoptive parents.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:10 PM (hku12)

122 For longest time about Royals thought its a easy life how hard can it be to show up, do your best at the promotion and keep it in ypur pants.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 12:10 PM (ZCEU2)

123 Yoghurt- That conjures up an image.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 12:10 PM (m45I2)

124 Balut

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2020 12:10 PM (aKsyK)

125 93
I'm dancing on hot coals down here. Uncle Ted and Senor Juan are teaching me to pirouette.


Posted by: Zombie Salami at January 11, 2020 11:59 AM (EgshT)

_________


It looks like roasted pigs all the way down ... in hell.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:11 PM (WqPYg)

126 lowandslow #40: Any of you guys ever go to a ballet? I went once on a date, it's a tough balancing act for guys...

Heh. Daughter's been in ballet since before High School, so, yeah, I've been to a ballet. Two performances in the Spring, two performances of the Nutcracker before Christmas. Times many years.

My review of the Nutcracker in particular and ballet in general from 2015 (comment #239):
http://bit.ly/non-pc-nutcracker

(Short form: "there's something in the Nutcracker for practically every flavor of the Complaining Class to get upset about.")

Posted by: mindful webworker - needs a smaller codpiece - said no male ballet dancer ever at January 11, 2020 12:11 PM (yT7Mu)

127

Instagram
is removing posts and suspending accounts that voice support for slain
Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani, says it is complying with US
sanctions


This is different

Posted by: SMOD at January 11, 2020 12:11 PM (X5CsJ)

128 I thought this was the thread before the sewing thread,my pantaloons need tightened in the crotchaloon
arena before Chest& Library thread.

My subway pantless perigrinations loosened the voice box.....La La LALA Laloose in the Hyloid.

Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (5IHGB)

129 102
Big twitter brouhaha because Michael Tracey just called neontaster
garbage. Then proceeds to out neontaster by name and as John Podhoretz'
nephew.


Posted by: ArtGriego at January 11, 2020 12:01 PM (BhG3W)

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Last week Tracey was flipping out and acting weird.

I don't twit during weekends, so no idea what's going on now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (cfSRQ)

130 By the way, BertTC, does anyone know when or if your boss is gonna get back in the funny-paper game? (Or did he die? That seems to ring a bell.)
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:08 PM (YqED9)


You must be talking about someone else. I have no idea to what you are referring.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (hku12)

131 If you like my slap you'll love my spanking.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (msPO3)

132 I don't have much to add to the discussion of the British aristocracy, so let me just say:

Bye kids! Have fun storming the castle!

Endeavour to persevere!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (m45I2)

133

What's a lizzo?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 12:13 PM (swXWo)

134 I like a lot of the music in ballet, but the actual dancing leaves me disinterested. Even the pretty girls don't really help, because they're doing pointless, silly crap. Its kind of like having a tone deaf ear: all I see are people doing ridiculous movements that have little to nothing to do with the music, and having no apparent embarrassment about it. They should all run off stage weeping about how stupid and silly they look and are acting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:13 PM (KZzsI)

135 BurtTC: Berke (sp?) Breathed. I thought your old nick was Burt the Cat!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:14 PM (YqED9)

136 That's alright Harry, lay back and think of England.

Posted by: whoser daddy at January 11, 2020 12:15 PM (WX+x0)

137 ^^ Rhenni " Canada would be a Western state of Russia without the USA"

perchance without the USA we could get on with our NORMAL LIVES "eh?


... and besides I likes WODKA....................

Posted by: saf at January 11, 2020 12:16 PM (5IHGB)

138 The thing is, with the Obama administration, I think they took a different tack than the Carter policy. I think they were active and deliberately supportive of Iran. I think they believed Iran could become a superpower in the region and through that develop into a calming, controlling influence that would stabilize the middle east.

Which is so radically stupid and insane it could only come from the mind of academics and radicals.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:16 PM (KZzsI)

139 The numpties are still on about WW3?

We already had WW3. That was the Russians right at election time.

Then we had WW4. That was when Trump stood up to North Korea.

WW5 was when Trump stood up to China.

WW6 was Trump in Syria

We're all the way to WW7 now.

But it doesn't matter because we're all going to die in 10 years or so because Global Warming.

Posted by: Hereogar at January 11, 2020 12:16 PM (eQ0LF)

140 Yeah I don't get royal obsession. But then I don't get cat videos either so it must mean I am the weird one.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 11, 2020 12:17 PM (B06Zw)

141 Foodomotopaeia

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B b b b bbbb beans?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:17 PM (+y/Ru)

142 The Ukrainian Flight PS752 is the story of Jimmy Carter too.

40 year legs on that story too.

He's a bad man for what he didn't do.

Posted by: torabora at January 11, 2020 12:18 PM (Y274z)

143 Last week Tracey was flipping out and acting weird.

I don't twit during weekends, so no idea what's going on now.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (cfSRQ)
--------------Oh the guy is still off his rocker over the Iran thing. But watching him vs thePodhoretz crew is entertaining.

Posted by: ArtGriego at January 11, 2020 12:18 PM (BhG3W)

144 BurtTC, sorry, not that informed.

Posted by: Wenda at January 11, 2020 12:18 PM (oS/8T)

145 132
I don't have much to add to the discussion of the British aristocracy, so let me just say:



Bye kids! Have fun storming the castle!



Endeavour to persevere!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 12:12 PM (m45I2)

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Not sure where I heard this, but a British peer was sniffing with disdain at how people can get titles for writing or singing or whatnot and the recipient (whom he was addressing) got all huffy, and sayd "Oh yeah, what did your ancestor do for the family title?"

"He killed people with an axe - like a real peer!"There are still real aristocrats in the UK, chiefly the ones who join the service. I met a guy on a message board who said his platoon commander could trace his line all way back the Blenheim. The men knew he'd die rather than dishonour his family name.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2020 12:19 PM (cfSRQ)

146 Distasteful though it may be, holds the Sixth Circuit, a high school football coach does not violate Title IX by calling a player a "pussy."

CHISHOLM v ST.MARYS CITY SCHOOL

Posted by: SMOD at January 11, 2020 12:19 PM (X5CsJ)

147 So, if I understand correctly, this is the Meghan the Nutcracker thread.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)

148 Distasteful though it may be, holds the Sixth Circuit, a high school football coach does not violate Title IX by calling a player a "pussy."

CHISHOLM v ST.MARYS CITY SCHOOL
Posted by: SMOD at January 11, 2020 12:19 PM (X5CsJ)


Even the Court concurred that the kid proved he was a pussy by filing suit for being called a pussy.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 12:21 PM (1g7ch)

149 OT, but I saw Underwater, that new thriller, yesterday; they were hoping for "Alien" in the Mariana Trench but meh.
Kristen Stewart is no Ripley. Siggy Weaver had an expressive, attractive face that was interesting to look at; Stewart just looks sullen or deadpan. Her face cant carry this movie and 80 percent of the shots are closeups of her face. The underwater scenes all look muddy so it's hard to see the action. People in the theater were checking their emails!

Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:22 PM (11H2y)

150 Distasteful though it may be, holds the Sixth Circuit, a high school football coach does not violate Title IX by calling a player a "pussy."

I'd say this falls under the Motivational Abuse clause.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:23 PM (KZzsI)

151 19


I don't think I've ever seen a "smashburger" store near me. Had never heard of "smashburger" until recently.



Guess what?

Fake News and all local fake news want you to know that this
smashburger place is having a special debut off their chicken sandwich
this Sunday. (This isn't news, it's an advertisement.)



Fake News even included the hash tag in their advertisement for the
woke company. I'm not going to type the hash tag. I'll tell you it has
something to do with being pro-homo and anti-normal under the guise of
being inclusive.



How do you like that, chik-fil-a? You sold out. You betrayed your
customers and yourselves. This is the thanks you get from the Left and
Fake News.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM (swXWo)

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One opened up a couple years ago in Flagstaff, AZ and I tied it once. It was meh.

They should have just started a chain of chicken fast-food restaurants -- could have called it "chokechicken" or something.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:23 PM (WqPYg)

152 I saw Underwater, that new thriller, yesterday; they were hoping for "Alien" in the Mariana Trench but meh.

So, the Abyss or ten previous movies about a monster in an underwater setting? I guess these kind of movies are cheap to make but its a knock off of a knock off of a knock off. With the blandest and least talented actress since Lorraine Bracco

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

153 Of any royals in military history Lord Mountbatten to me is the most outstanding character.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 12:24 PM (ZCEU2)

154 Kristen Stewart was in that reboot Charlie's Angels bomb too. How many bombs do you get before you are off the A list for big money films?

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 11, 2020 12:24 PM (B06Zw)

155 Where's my liquor store delivery? Don't make me come down there!

Posted by: Hillary of Chappaqua at January 11, 2020 12:24 PM (msPO3)

156 OK Hordelings, life beckons.

Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at January 11, 2020 12:25 PM (HaL55)

157 147
So, if I understand correctly, this is the Meghan the Nutcracker thread.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)

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"Damn, we just got a great idea for a reboot of the Conan the Barbarian movies!" -- Disney

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:25 PM (WqPYg)

158 Classical Ballet:

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=ISC-8DEooTY

The opening scene for Romeo & Juliet. Choreographed by Rudolf Nureyev who famously danced Romeo when younger.

Teach yourself to see differences in costumes, corp movements (i.e. what the group does v. what the principles do), etc ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bsllet Critic ... at January 11, 2020 12:25 PM (LPnfS)

159 BurtTC: Berke (sp?) Breathed. I thought your old nick was Burt the Cat!
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:14 PM (YqED9)


Nope. I've used this nic here for about 16 years now.

Seems insane to say that. 16 flippin' years.....

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)

160
So, if I understand correctly, this is the Meghan the Nutcracker thread.
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AW -- really made me laugh.
The big question for me is what is that poor baby's real name? Archibald? Archer? Archon?

Silliness. Bottom line is that Sparkle Farkle Markle will never be queen and can't even step in as the understudy. Go on, you 40-something folk and become independent.

Sussex is a bad joke.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 12:26 PM (MIKMs)

161 Chris Taylor points out the starkest example, and most disastrous, of what I was saying. The Obama policy on Iran was literally difficult to believe - that it was actually happening.

Seeing the most blood-drenched, aggressive, committed non-superpower adversary we've faced since WWII as a quasi-partner and guarantor of our interests, and doing a ridiculously ineffectual anti-proliferation deal with them, was easily the greatest foreign policy blunder in modern history.

And that's on top of, and related to, recklessly and idiotically abandoning our position in Iraq and doing nothing to counter the Iranian influx that followed.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2020 12:29 PM (El6T/)

162 "She's not living her life, she's a star in the biggest role of her life."

The Real Housewives of Windsor.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at January 11, 2020 12:29 PM (xmKbk)

163 I think people are really annoyed at Megan Markle because she married a literal prince and never had to lift a finger again in her entire life to live complete and unending luxury and comfort... and she's being an utter twat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:29 PM (KZzsI)

164 152 - compared to Kristen Stewart, Lorraine Bracco is Meryl Streep or Katherine Hepburn. I've seen more expression and range from a ventriloquist's dummy.

Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:29 PM (11H2y)

165 OT, but I saw Underwater, that new thriller, yesterday; they were hoping for "Alien" in the Mariana Trench but meh.
Kristen Stewart is no....
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:22 PM (11H2y)


Yeah, no. You can stop there.

You can doll up some of these actresses, and from certain angles they can look good, but jeepers is she the dullest dullard in Hollowwood or what. Her or Jennifer Lowrents.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

166 doing a ridiculously ineffectual anti-proliferation deal with them, was easily the greatest foreign policy blunder in modern history.

I put it up there with giving China "most favored nation" trade status. Its like slashing your own throat with a butter knife. It doesn't even do the job well so you have to saw at it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:30 PM (KZzsI)

167 AW -- really made me laugh.
The big question for me is what is that poor baby's real name? Archibald? Archer? Archon?

Silliness.
Bottom line is that Sparkle Farkle Markle will never be queen and can't
even step in as the understudy. Go on, you 40-something folk and become
independent.

Sussex is a bad joke.


Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 12:26 PM (MIKMs)

It is Archie. He's named in honor of Harry's Army commander, Tom Archer-Burton, whom everyone calls Archie. He helped get Harry permission to serve in Afghanistan, and Harry has called him his "rock."

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 12:30 PM (pXNaM)

168 Mexit was completely predictable. Rough waters ahead for him, though. He seems smitten, but I don't get the impression that the current runs both ways.

Posted by: Caliban at January 11, 2020 12:32 PM (QE8X6)

169 Meghan Nutcracker thread, too funny

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 12:32 PM (ZCEU2)

170 I think people are really annoyed at Megan Markle because she married a literal prince and never had to lift a finger again in her entire life to live complete and unending luxury and comfort... and she's being an utter twat.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:29 PM (KZzsI)


So yeah, envy. And standard issue celebrity trash gossip.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:32 PM (hku12)

171 It is Archie. He's named in honor of Harry's Army commander, Tom Archer-Burton, whom everyone calls Archie.
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How very sad. Why would anyone saddle a child with a nickname?

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (MIKMs)

172 165 - agree about Jennifer Lawrence, too. It's as if her facial muscles are frozen into one impassive expression.

Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (11H2y)

173 72 I have seen The Nutcracker a couple times, and to be honest I do not understand why parents take their young children to see it, especially those in the 3-6 years old range. They're generally fine through the first half, but after the intermission they're either fidgety or fall asleep, and I saw quite a few people leaving before the end as a result.

(Heck, I was bored during the second half.)
Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 11:52 AM (pXNaM)


Wagner's operas. FIVE HOURS LONG.

Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (YqDXo)

174 You can doll up some of these actresses, and from certain angles they can look good, but jeepers is she the dullest dullard in Hollowwood or what. Her or Jennifer Lowrents.

Yeah Jennifer Lawrence walks through her roles with a sort of stoned, empty look. She relies entirely on her young pretty looks but has almost no screen presence and is strangely... morphable. Sometimes she looks great, sometimes she looks like the waitress at Denny's you might take out after her shift is over.

While I don't think Scarlett Johansson is nearly as pretty as others do, she is consistently attractive and can actually act. She'll have something to offer when her looks finally fade entirely and she gets one of those terrifying face lifts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

175 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (PUmDY)

176 Excellent essay. Thanks, KT.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2020 12:34 PM (WI7YS)

177 49
The Iran story isn't even the top headline at the Clown News Network. What is their top story? ":Trump's changing Iran story is costing him support". So Iran admitting to killing 176 people is meh compared to taking more shots at Trump
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 11:44 AM (EMCcL)
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My local news site rag has pole dancing work off the screen.

But they are the wookiest woke who ever woked.

Also, F/U PM BlackFace of Canada and anyone who voted for your side.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 11, 2020 12:35 PM (VYwSh)

178 Wagner's operas. FIVE HOURS LONG.

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Wagner: the Peter Jackson of opera.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

179 I agree with Fen. Excellent post.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm Phone at January 11, 2020 12:36 PM (c6dEt)

180 Seen promos for Mad About You reboot. Helen Hunt's face looks as static as Mt Rushmore. She ain't no Laura Linney.

Posted by: Bad About You at January 11, 2020 12:36 PM (msPO3)

181
So yeah, envy. And standard issue celebrity trash gossip.

Posted by: BurtTC

No. If that were true we'd be seeing the same wrt Kate, and there's been none of that. I think it's more about being gaslighted. Same as with the Obamas. No envy involved, imo.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 12:36 PM (2GPSc)

182 Still baffled that sixth in line for the throne of Britain is such a big deal in Britain let alone any place else.
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 11, 2020 11:35 AM (B06Zw)


Because the British Media realize that if they talk about the real problems facing Britain they will wind up in the cell next to Tommy Robbinson

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2020 12:36 PM (1glZx)

183 The Marinara Trench?

Posted by: klaftern at January 11, 2020 12:37 PM (RuIsu)

184 Trump derangement has reached a degree where the danger to the president's life gets greater every day.

Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2020 12:37 PM (KNsKs)

185 165 - agree about Jennifer Lawrence, too. It's as if her facial muscles are frozen into one impassive expression.
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (11H2y)


I'm not sure, but it's possible the phrase "resting bitch face" was coined for her.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:37 PM (hku12)

186 Wagner's operas. FIVE HOURS LONG.



Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (YqDXo)

That would be five hours of me sitting there thinking, "Quit singing about it, DO something about it!"

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM (pXNaM)

187 Wagner's operas. FIVE HOURS LONG. Yow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (YqDXo)

Five hours of silly nonsense set to writhing, overdramatic music.

Funny Mark Twain quote: "I've heard that Wagner's music is better than it sounds."

Posted by: Caliban at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM (QE8X6)

188 Muh blue Georgia.


(+10) Trump vs Sanders

(+14) Trump vs Warren

(+7) Trump vs Biden

(+9) Trump vs Buttigieg

Posted by: Ha at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM (NSFCQ)

189 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?
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Give a Royal Imprimatur to certain political and charitable endeavors outside of the neutral Royal Family and making bank. Hmmm, I think Charlie Boy got in major trouble playing that game as well as his first wife.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM (MIKMs)

190 LOL. Just saw a news story that apparently the WSJ is claiming Trump killed Salmonella to appease war-hawk Republican Senators as a way of preventing them from voting to remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial.


That could be a Babylon Bee story.


Those asshats honestly expect people to swallow the false premise that there's ANY threat at all of PDT being removed by the Senate -- an act that would eviscerate the GOP for good. My declining intelligence continues to be assaulted on a more-than-hourly basis ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:39 PM (WqPYg)

191 Her tits were good in that one movie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:40 PM (PUmDY)

192 Much like all the marxist guerrilla movements dried up after the collapse of the Soviet Union, removing the Islamic nutjobs from power in Iran will result in much of the terrorists they enable and support drying up.

Oh, sure, you'll have people like the Sendero Luminoso, ANTIFA or NOW running around but they are just lunatics who gotta luna.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 12:40 PM (Z+IKu)

193 188
Muh blue Georgia.





(+10) Trump vs Sanders



(+14) Trump vs Warren



(+7) Trump vs Biden



(+9) Trump vs Buttigieg





Posted by: Ha at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM (NSFCQ)


________


Nate Silver's model still has him losing to Hillary in Georgia.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:40 PM (WqPYg)

194 I thought I'd see what the Tracy/neontaster Twitter fight was about, first Tweet I see is Podhoetz nephew accusing Tracy of being an anti-semite for using the term neo-con. So right off the bat neontaster lost.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 12:40 PM (4thlk)

195 If you're bored, there's an interesting article at NR (yeah, yeah) about movie posters, especially the non-sanctioned hand-drawn types:

“Baptized by Beefcake: The Golden Age of Hand-Painted Movie Posters from Ghana” is great fun. Ghana was the first African colony to win its independence from Britain. It was freshly liberated and unusually prosperous — 10 percent of the world’s gold was mined there — but its aesthetic was fledgling, part indigenous and part English. Amid ethnic and political divisions, American adventure and action-hero movies provided a unified national vernacular.

The Ghanaian movie business thrived. The posters in the show, big and brassy, are spinoffs of American mass-produced posters but they’re individually hand-painted, a striking mix of Hollywood tinsel and folk art. Movie promoters — really, traveling salesmen — would go to small towns that had cinemas or even spaces such as churches that could be converted to pop-up theaters. They’d hawk upcoming features, using the posters as marketing material or, in the 1970s and 1980s, market films at video stores."


https://tinyurl.com/raao93r


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 11, 2020 12:40 PM (Dc2NZ)

196 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?

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They're going to save the world with their pedal to the metal wokeness. Drag an uncaring world kicking and screaming into their wokeosphere!

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 12:41 PM (JoUsr)

197 So yeah, envy. And standard issue celebrity trash gossip.

Posted by: BurtTC

No. If that were true we'd be seeing the same wrt Kate, and there's been none of that. I think it's more about being gaslighted. Same as with the Obamas. No envy involved, imo.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 12:36 PM (2GPSc)


No, that's the point. Kate is nicer, prettier, classier, and white (and NO, I'm not accusing YOU or anyone here of being racist, I'm saying it's a factor in their lives, and the differences between these two women).

Nobody envies that girl who is out of their league. They envy the one who is IN their league (or below their league), but somehow got elevated above her station.

It's all quite simple.

And my basic question was, what's she done that caused so much hate. I have my answer.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:42 PM (hku12)

198 Arabian Nutcracker or something from Shaherazad?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2020 12:42 PM (axyOa)

199 Because the British Media realize that if they
talk about the real problems facing Britain they will wind up in the
cell next to Tommy Robbinson


Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2020 12:36 PM (1glZx)

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Quoted for truth.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 11, 2020 12:42 PM (WqPYg)

200 The Obama policy on Iran was literally difficult to believe

We bitch about McCain and Romney all the time but Obama was literally 98% wrong 98% of the time. With billion dollar corruptions for dessert.

Sarah Palin pulling magic 8-balls out of moose-poop would've been an improvement.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2020 12:42 PM (FhXTo)

201 42 Any of you guys ever go to a ballet? I went once on a date, it's a tough balancing act for guys. You have to try not to fantasize to much about the hot chicks while wondering how any of this is artistic or even entertaining while pretending to have a good time so your date might show you how much she appreciates you going. Which brings you back to fantasizing about the ballerinas.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (4thlk)

Great bodies, gnarly feet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)


I recall Michelle Kwan going on Jay Leno's "The Tonight Show" eons ago mentioning something to that effect: female ice skaters are prettied up and dressed like little princesses but their feet are covered in bunions. Jay turned to the camera and said, "I think you've just ruined a lot of guys' fantasies tonight."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 11, 2020 12:43 PM (DTX3h)

202 More flak for Wray today in the Trumpentwatters.

Won't allow myself to hope that Trump will actually s**t-can Wray and insist on a serious house-cleaning at the FBI and DOJ.

But if he doesn't - and we don't see major action on the familiar cases and more besides - then we're truly in dangerous waters.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2020 12:44 PM (El6T/)

203 If there were a food equivalent for onomatopeia, what would be a better example, gruel, goulash, or porridge?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (m45I2)


If not cooked right, Grits.


Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2020 12:44 PM (1glZx)

204 The Marinara Trench?
Posted by: klaftern at January 11, 2020 12:37 PM (RuIsu)


Think of the endless garlic bread sticks!!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)

205 Muh blue Georgia.


(+10) Trump vs Sanders

(+14) Trump vs Warren

(+7) Trump vs Biden

(+9) Trump vs Buttigieg

Posted by: Ha
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Is anyone polling Trump vs Bloomers?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 11, 2020 12:45 PM (UUBmN)

206 65 - agree about Jennifer Lawrence, too. It's as if her facial muscles are frozen into one impassive expression.
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (11H2y)


I had to look her up, having no idea who she was. Turns out Time magazine listed her as one of the 100 most influential people on the planet.

Wut? An actress? Did they include Mike Trout too?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

207 Just got to poke around.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:47 PM (PUmDY)

208 If one wants to talk productivity, we should have a study on newly elected members of Congress. Let's take Congressman X from Bumfuck, a small district in an obscure state. Now this guy was in a small law firm, dabbled in local politics, and has a nice house, holdings about $100K and a little credit card debt. He is reelected, as most of the bastards are. Lets look at his wealth, taking into account the $175K chump change he gets for representing his people. It would make a nice chart over five election cycles.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 11, 2020 12:47 PM (C1Lsn)

209 But if he doesn't - and we don't see major action on the familiar cases and more besides - then we're truly in dangerous waters.
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Agreed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 12:48 PM (MIKMs)

210 Great bodies, gnarly feet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 11, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)


I once a little 100 lb. dancer in the gym rep out 315 lb. squats.

Damned impressed, I was.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 12:48 PM (YqDXo)

211 I believe absolutely nothing the media assholes report on. Fucking disgrace.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2020 12:48 PM (b6UUO)

212 >What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?

they're gonna be famous and say stuff

Posted by: DB at January 11, 2020 12:49 PM (iTXRQ)

213 If there were a food equivalent for onomatopeia, what would be a better example, gruel, goulash, or porridge?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (m45I2)



"If you didnt But if you don't like crottled greeps, what did you order them for?"

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2020 12:49 PM (1glZx)

214 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?

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They're going to save the world with their pedal to the metal wokeness. Drag an uncaring world kicking and screaming into their wokeosphere!
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 11, 2020 12:41 PM (JoUsr)


And the bitter truth is, there's LOTS of money to be made by them, doing just that.

I kinda think this is a smart move. If they want to live their lives like a king and queen, being lefty royals gives them much more freedom, and personally accessible filthy lucre, than being actual royals.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:49 PM (hku12)

215 On the day I was born.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:50 PM (PUmDY)

216 That could be a Babylon Bee story.

-
Politics


World War III Rated Most Disappointing Sequel Since 'Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull'

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)

217 Here's a good film, Ballerina, that follows five Russian ballet students at different points of their careers. Even you guys that don't care for the art form will find a great deal to appreciate, iykwimaityd.

https://tinyurl.com/skabrex

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 12:51 PM (YqED9)

218 206 65 - agree about Jennifer Lawrence, too. It's as if her facial muscles are frozen into one impassive expression.
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:33 PM (11H2y)

I had to look her up, having no idea who she was. Turns out Time magazine listed her as one of the 100 most influential people on the planet.

Wut? An actress? Did they include Mike Trout too?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 12:45 PM (YqDXo)


I wonder if Ricky Gervais made the list.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:52 PM (hku12)

219 speaking of "destroying illusions", i walked out the door with Resident 3vil a few minutes ago, only to find a strange pickup parked behind mine on my property.

turns out it some mojado that my neighbors have w*rking on my house. they are used to my passive, non-confrontational, soy boi type neighbors, who hire their ilk, because they can't do shit themselves. i'm a Fing moron: if i can't do it myself, i hire real professionals, not Rent-a-Pendejo.


he was stupid enough to tell me to calm down when i told him to get his shit off my property.

that got him cussed out in multiple languages, including his own, then laughed at in front of the other flojos (his painting buddy and the gardener). especially when he said "F you" and my reply was "you're not man enough, maricon", who also found humor in the exchange.

so the day is off to a great start: i had breakfast with herself, and i'm going out to w*rk on getting shit done around here, which should make her, and thus me, happier.

F him and all of his kind.




Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2020 12:53 PM (zHXTb)

220 Muh blue Georgia.


(+10) Trump vs Sanders

(+14) Trump vs Warren

(+7) Trump vs Biden

(+9) Trump vs Buttigieg

Posted by: Ha
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Is anyone polling Trump vs Bloomers?
Posted by: lin-duh at January 11, 2020 12:45 PM (UUBmN)


What cracks me up the most, is Bloomberg looks like he's running a campaign the way a Sweet 16 girl plans her coming out party.

If you throw enough money at it, people will like me.

No, we won't.

As for Buttgig, I think once Georgia figures out he smokes peener for a living, his numbers will drop.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

221 Which is so radically stupid and insane it could only come from the mind of academics and radicals.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:16 PM (KZzsI)


TFG had the same thought about ISIS, remember?
There is that whole lefty belief that if Satan were in God's seat he would become as God.

it is as if they have no concept of Hell on Earth

"Oooh, the Dread Empire is expanding on the crucified bodies of its enslaved and tortured conquests, they are bound to enact those transgendered rights regulations we sent them, any time. I mean they must, it is a requirement of a modern, vibrant state, right?"

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2020 12:54 PM (1glZx)

222 He is reelected, as most of the bastards are. Lets look at his wealth, taking into account the $175K chump change he gets for representing his people. It would make a nice chart over five election cycles.

Yeah that is the kind of stuff I want news magazines and shows like 60 minutes to do. Dig into the powerful and influential, hold them to the fire. But no, they don't do that any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:55 PM (KZzsI)

223 'US adventurism' is to blame for plane crash, Iran says

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I did not know Iran was a blue state.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 12:55 PM (+y/Ru)

224 Right after Sloppy Choppers press conference President Trump had his and was asked about the Ukrainian plane mishap ( at the time) and he let on straight away it was shot down by them.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)

225 Babylon Sisters is a great song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 12:55 PM (PUmDY)

226 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?

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Hah! Now I remembered. Princess Anne has commoner children. No titles and whatever $$$ they get as direct grandchildren is from personal funds -- not the taxpayers (although I think there is some security paid because they are QEII's grandchildren). Anne has the hardest 'charity' tours and the most sponsorships -- probably the most hardworking of the 'royals'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 12:55 PM (MIKMs)

227 Erielle is one of those names you'd come up with playing a fantasy RPG: my new Elf ranger, she's named Erielle!

But that was a good article on Iran and the media.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

228 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?

ex-royal interwebz influencers

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at January 11, 2020 12:56 PM (EgshT)

229 What's a lizzo?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 12:13 PM (swXWo)

**********

A gelatinous she beast from Minneapolis. Middling talent. She'll have diabeeeeetez by the time she's 30

Posted by: Steely Biden at January 11, 2020 12:57 PM (flINI)

230 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?



they're gonna be famous and say stuff


They're like Democrats: they have no useful job skills or interest in working, and expect to be treated like royalty.

I give them a few years, and they'll either run back to Buckingham Palace, or start pitching mattresses, insurance and gold coins. Oh, and almost certainly divorce lawyers.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2020 12:57 PM (T6t7i)

231 And know we're getting sleet and rain and my place will soon smell like the Ben-Gay factory. The Knee and The Other Knee call.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 11, 2020 12:58 PM (C1Lsn)

232 So yeah, in the end I'm going to chalk this one up, the fact that people hate this broad, the black girl who married the prince, to the fact that people get bored and they like drama.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

I disagree. There is a deal in place with the Royals and the general public. The Royals get the billions and the adulation, and in exchange they dress up fancy and do the various tours and visits to orphanages and cut ribbons like first ladies do in the US.

Trashing the deal or being vocal on current affairs that Brits could disagree on or flashing your billions the wrong way is against the deal and bound to spark some pushback.

If she's a grownup than she will live through it. If she's a petty Hollywood star type things may be amped up.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 12:59 PM (eoQWY)

233 For a small fee, you can be a woke prince or princess for a day.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at January 11, 2020 12:59 PM (EgshT)

234 the mixed race American now duchess who claims England is racist runs back to canada where the leader is a white commie who wears blackface.... regularly....

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Drudge suggests that they're going to Hollyweird, that Okra is advising them and that they've already signed with (who else?) Disney.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)

If she thinks the Queen and the Brits are strict, she should see how Disney rules over their princesses.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:00 PM (eoQWY)

235 Say stuff is funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 01:00 PM (PUmDY)

236 And the bitter truth is, there's LOTS of money to be made by them, doing just that.



I kinda think this is a smart move. If they want to live their
lives like a king and queen, being lefty royals gives them much more
freedom, and personally accessible filthy lucre, than being actual
royals.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 12:49 PM (hku12)

One big issue that is contributing to Brits being up in arms is who is paying for all this. Yes, they want to be financially independent, but until then is the British taxpayer going to continue footing their security bills, for example? Furthermore, since they want to live in Canada and also go frequently to the States, Canadian and yes, US taxpayers may be on the hook for security costs. Plus their security is currently handled entirely by UK personnel; them primarily spending their time in North America is unfair for those people, who have family of their own (yes, I know it's their job). During their 6-week stay in Canada over Christmas they had to rotate the 6-person detail partway through.

As well, because they want to still do some royal stuff, like show up in the UK when they need to for certain events and maybe do some tours, that means they'll still have the British taxpayer forking out money for them.

Finally, money is still being spent on renovating the place they were given to live on the Windsor estate (to the tune of millions of pounds) and now they're not even going to live there for a good chunk of the year?

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:01 PM (pXNaM)

237 That would be five hours of me sitting there thinking, "Quit singing about it, DO something about it!"
Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM


Kill the wabbitt?

Posted by: Elmer F. at January 11, 2020 01:01 PM (r6GXX)

238
And know we're getting sleet and rain and my place will soon smell like the Ben-Gay factory. The Knee and The Other Knee call.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 11, 2020 12:58 PM (C1Lsn)

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another brutal SoCal winter day here:


TodaySunny, with a high near 63. East southeast wind around 5 mph becoming south southwest in the afternoon. TonightPartly cloudy, with a low around 42. North wind 5 to 10 mph. SundaySunny, with a high near 64. North northwest wind around 5 mph becoming south in the afternoon. Sunday NightMostly clear, with a low around 43. South wind around 5 mph becoming east northeast in the evening. MondaySunny, with a high near 63. North northeast wind around 5 mph becoming southwest in the morning. Monday NightPartly cloudy, with a low around 44.TuesdayMostly sunny, with a high near 62.Tuesday NightMostly clear, with a low around 43.WednesdayMostly sunny, with a high near 63.Wednesday NightMostly cloudy, with a low around 44.ThursdayA chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 59.Thursday NightA chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 43.FridayA slight chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 62.
/end quoted text

po' me!


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2020 01:02 PM (zHXTb)

239 thanks for borking the formatting, Pixy!

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2020 01:02 PM (zHXTb)

240 >>> What cracks me up the most, is Bloomberg looks like he's running a campaign the way a Sweet 16 girl plans her coming out party.
If you throw enough money at it, people will like me.
No, we won't.

He needs to tell people that he will take away their guns and large sodas. That will win them over.

Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 01:03 PM (dCRRg)

241 Oregon winter here. Cool and rainy. Snow in the mountains, and ice storms in Portland where God continues to demonstrate his displeasure to the deaf residents

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 01:03 PM (KZzsI)

242 I think that the sea change of the Trump administration is not his policies but rather that a huge percentage of the population now don't trust government, the media or the Democrats and, in fact, hate them and think of them as evil.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

The Founders obviously looked at government with deep suspicion, and the move away from that in the 20th century has done the country no favors. Getting back to that is a good thing.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:04 PM (eoQWY)

243 Ace

This is in regard to to your link to the Small Dead Animals video, with the interview of the Iranian/Canadind dude:

It was fascinating, but whenever he says "they," I expect he's secretly thinking "we." I wonder if the dude was Shia or Sunni, before he became an "ex-Muslim""? I bet Shia.

The Sunnis called the Shia "swamp Arabs," because the Shia traditionally lived in the poorest, swampy parts of Iraq.

Posted by: mnw at January 11, 2020 01:04 PM (Cssks)

244 That would be five hours of me sitting there thinking, "Quit singing about it, DO something about it!"

Now I'm thinking about the kid in Last Action Hero imagining Arnie in Hamlet

https://youtu.be/YNcN5f3vwro

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

245 Poor Chicago weather people! They have not had anything since Oct-Nov cold and snow. January is so mild so far that a 'wintry mix' is major news -- even cutting into regular programming on the path of the 'storm'. Usually Chicago gives a lot of weather drama, but this year, nothing much.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 01:07 PM (MIKMs)

246 What are Harry and Meghan going to do that is productive?
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ex-royal interwebz influencers
Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at January 11, 2020 12:56 PM (EgshT)


I mean, good grief, they gave Lilly Singh a freakin' tv show.

Such a strange world, Youtube makes stars of these people who aren't all that good looking, have no talent, and seem to have an audience consisting of elementary school kids. And they make millions.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:07 PM (hku12)

247 I recall Michelle Kwan going on Jay Leno's "The Tonight Show" eons ago mentioning something to that effect: female ice skaters are prettied up and dressed like little princesses but their feet are covered in bunions. Jay turned to the camera and said, "I think you've just ruined a lot of guys' fantasies tonight."
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 11, 2020 12:43 PM


It sure ruined mine.

Posted by: Quintin Terratino at January 11, 2020 01:07 PM (r6GXX)

248 Media provided the narrative which allowed the mullahs to avoid culpability in the downing of an airliner full of Persians.
They really do work for the other side.

Posted by: Cluebat at January 11, 2020 01:08 PM (S8ld5)

249 Why is Justine Trudeau talking about Iran shooting down the plane? Is he demanding something?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 01:08 PM (PUmDY)

250 Jerusalem is mentioned hundreds of times in the Bible.
Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran.

Posted by: Biblical Scholar at January 11, 2020 01:08 PM (G1zuh)

251 Why is Justine Trudeau talking about Iran shooting down the plane?

It had a couple dozen Canadians, its one of the things you do as a national leader.

Why were they there in Iran to begin with, though??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 01:08 PM (KZzsI)

252 That would be five hours of me sitting there thinking, "Quit singing about it, DO something about it!"

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM



Kill the wabbitt?



Posted by: Elmer F. at January 11, 2020 01:01 PM (r6GXX)

There's one.
I know the discussion has happened around here before about how much Bugs Bunny cartoons contributed to classical and opera music knowledge.

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:09 PM (pXNaM)

253 Now I'm thinking about the kid in Last Action Hero imagining Arnie in Hamlet

https://youtu.be/YNcN5f3vwro
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 01:06 PM


Last Action Hero is totally underrated. That scene alone was worth the price of admission.

And the teacher in the scene was Laurence Olivier's wife.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 11, 2020 01:11 PM (r6GXX)

254 OT, but I saw Underwater, that new thriller, yesterday; they were hoping for "Alien" in the Mariana Trench but meh.
Kristen Stewart is no Ripley. Siggy Weaver had an expressive, attractive face that was interesting to look at; Stewart just looks sullen or deadpan. Her face cant carry this movie and 80 percent of the shots are closeups of her face. The underwater scenes all look muddy so it's hard to see the action. People in the theater were checking their emails!
Posted by: vivi at January 11, 2020 12:22 PM (11H2y)

They keep trying this undersea stuff but it always proves to be all wet.

Have any of these so called thrillers worked aside from Sub movies rehashing WWII actions?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:12 PM (eoQWY)

255 Harry married Megexit because she told him how brave he was and how he shouldn't have to tolerate being told what to do. Poor put-upon prince.

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2020 01:12 PM (nRWPy)

256 So yeah, in the end I'm going to chalk this one up, the fact that people hate this broad, the black girl who married the prince, to the fact that people get bored and they like drama.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

I disagree. There is a deal in place with the Royals and the general public. The Royals get the billions and the adulation, and in exchange they dress up fancy and do the various tours and visits to orphanages and cut ribbons like first ladies do in the US.

Trashing the deal or being vocal on current affairs that Brits could disagree on or flashing your billions the wrong way is against the deal and bound to spark some pushback.

If she's a grownup than she will live through it. If she's a petty Hollywood star type things may be amped up.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 12:59 PM (eoQWY)


You're not disagreeing with me.

You are saying exactly the same thing.

They're entertainment for the masses, and she's in the villain role. It's just like professional wrassling.

There are people who seem to believe it's real, and that it has a real impact on their own lives.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:13 PM (hku12)

257 It had a couple dozen Canadians, its one of the things you do as a national leader.



Why were they there in Iran to begin with, though??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 01:08 PM (KZzsI)

There were 57, the vast majority of them dual citizens with Iran as well as university students, and they were coming back after the winter break. Quite a few of them had gone to Iran for a wedding, including the bride and groom.
So when they say "Canadians" they're leaving out the fact that most of them were also Iranian citizens.

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:13 PM (pXNaM)

258 Is it they are too lazy to make the appearances?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 01:14 PM (PUmDY)

259 I know the discussion has happened around here before about how much Bugs Bunny cartoons contributed to classical and opera music knowledge.
Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:09 PM


I took a music appreciation class in high school. During quizzes, the teacher would play a piece of classical music, and you would get extra credit for naming it.

I got them all, usually answering like "The Rabbit Barber of Seville"

Posted by: Chuck C at January 11, 2020 01:14 PM (r6GXX)

260 Anyone have thoughts on the movie "Mrs. America". It looks like a Schlafly vs Steinem bio-pic and Phyllis doesn't appear to be a cardboard villain like you usually get when Alan Alda or Richard Dreyfus play Republicans.

Posted by: Downcast at January 11, 2020 01:15 PM (1PYHw)

261 @255
I dunno, they're very careful to obscure the timeline on all this, but the two spent remarkably little time together before becoming engaged.
And the rumor is the first meeting was at a Soho house in Istanbul, when Charles introduced her to Harry.
hmm. . . .

Posted by: artemis at January 11, 2020 01:16 PM (AwPyG)

262 5" on the ground and more coming with 20 mph winds and drifting.

Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at January 11, 2020 01:16 PM (377Zs)

263

What did Cuck Wray do now?

Posted by: Rabbi Soothsayer at January 11, 2020 01:17 PM (GfNfN)

264 Windy here. Gusting to maybe 15 or 20. Warm though. The thermo meter says 70F.

I was trying to pick up some leaves but it's too windy, and they all seem to be blowing into the liberal neighbors yard anyway. Ha! F you!

Posted by: Weasel at January 11, 2020 01:19 PM (MVjcR)

265 Does this Barber of Seville have a newsletter?

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders, Extra Crispy at January 11, 2020 01:20 PM (EgshT)

266 Anyone have thoughts on the movie "Mrs. America". It looks like a Schlafly vs Steinem bio-pic and Phyllis doesn't appear to be a cardboard villain like you usually get when Alan Alda or Richard Dreyfus play Republicans.
Posted by: Downcast at January 11, 2020 01:15 PM (1PYHw)


Never heard of it.

Season 3 of Mrs. Maisel has an episode where they are doing a live read for a radio show, and it's an ad for Phyllis Schlafly and her run for Congress. They put words in the ad that Schlafly never would have said, didn't advocate, and wouldn't have made any sense in 1960 anyway.

The writers ought to be sued for libel.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:20 PM (hku12)

267 Wheels broke down

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 01:20 PM (PUmDY)

268 Why is Justine Trudeau talking about Iran shooting down the plane?

It had a couple dozen Canadians, its one of the things you do as a national leader.

Why were they there in Iran to begin with, though??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 11, 2020 01:08 PM (KZzsI)

A lot of them were attending a wedding - including a bride and groom who were also on the plane. Most of the foreign nationals are of Iranian descent if not immigrants to the western nation they are credited to.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:21 PM (eoQWY)

269 @260
I don't know about Mrs. America, but I switched off Season 3 of Miss Maisel because of their treatment of Schlafly.
I don't usually do that.

Posted by: Cluebat at January 11, 2020 01:21 PM (S8ld5)

270 "Why were they there in Iran to begin with, though??"


Forget about the 70 dual citizen Canadian/Iranians killed, what about the other 60 straight up Iranians going to Canada? And there's probably flights like that every day.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:23 PM (4thlk)

271 I mean what I say.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 01:23 PM (PUmDY)

272 22
Liz is maybe the exception. Her uncle David and her spoiled children are/were generally leftists.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshire Cat at January 11, 2020 01:23 PM (RfA+C)

273 There are people who seem to believe it's real, and that it has a real impact on their own lives.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:13 PM (hku12)

You looked to be blaming it on racism and irrational animus by the common Brits and holding these two blameless.

I disagree, there is a deal you understand when you sign up for that nonsense and racism has nothing to do with it. Classism, maybe, as Brits are snooty that way.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:23 PM (eoQWY)

274 I just want to thank the Horde for recommending the Book ON THE WINGS OF EAGLES by Ken Follett about Ross Perot and rescuing of his Employees. man oh man it's not friendly to Carter. I nust remember seeing the Hostages being Taken, I was in 1st grade when this shit went down.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 11, 2020 01:24 PM (dKiJG)

275 Muh blue Georgia.


(+10) Trump vs Sanders

(+14) Trump vs Warren

(+7) Trump vs Biden

(+9) Trump vs Buttigieg

Posted by: Ha at January 11, 2020 12:38 PM (NSFCQ)


Political positions aside, interesting that he has the highest lead over the Warren that probably has the highest mental function remaining and the lowest lead over obviously daft Biden.

People like the least experienced / capable.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 01:24 PM (1g7ch)

276 Forget about the 70 dual citizen Canadian/Iranians
killed, what about the other 60 straight up Iranians going to Canada?
And there's probably flights like that every day.


Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:23 PM (4thlk)

That airline is known for being the cheapest option to get to Toronto from Tehran (via Kiev, which is where the downed plane was going).

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:24 PM (pXNaM)

277 BurtTC, if you're still around: Sorry, I must have made the leap from your nick to the comic-strip character myself. "Bloom County" was still a biggie back then.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 01:25 PM (YqED9)

278 I give them a few years, and they'll either run back to Buckingham Palace, or start pitching mattresses, insurance and gold coins. Oh, and almost certainly divorce lawyers.
Posted by: pep at January 11, 2020 12:57 PM (T6t7i)


You left out reverse mortgages.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 01:25 PM (YqDXo)

279 Often said everything I know about opera I learned from Bugs

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 01:25 PM (ZCEU2)

280 279
Often said everything I know about opera I learned from Bugs

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 01:25 PM (ZCEU2)

What a maroon.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 11, 2020 01:26 PM (ufFY8)

281 Political positions aside, interesting that he has the highest lead over the Warren that probably has the highest mental function remaining and the lowest lead over obviously daft Biden.

People like the least experienced / capable.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 01:24 PM (1g7ch)

Dems always get an advantage the less that is know about them, because once you know them you find out what to dislike.

It isn't chance that the last three presidents they have were virtual unknowns on the national stage.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:27 PM (eoQWY)

282 Horseface on giving money to Iran:

"We gave them a little bit of money that was released at that period of time," Kerry said. "But the fact is the [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] had all the money it wanted."

. . .

"What they got in a totally separate arrangement, was the settlement of a lawsuit where they won, and they were accruing interest. And the average taxpayer of America was actually having to pay more and more and more interest to the Iranians for the fact that they had won this lawsuit and they were going to get more money."

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A pallet of money here, a pallet of money there, pretty soon it begins to add up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 01:27 PM (+y/Ru)

283 255 Harry married Megexit because she told him how brave he was and how he shouldn't have to tolerate being told what to do. Poor put-upon prince.
Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2020 01:12 PM (nRWPy)


My impression is that Harry - and most of the rest of the royals, apart from the Queen and Prince Philip - have the approximate IQ of turnips.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (YqDXo)

284 "That airline is known for being the cheapest option to get to Toronto from Tehran"



That's my point, why are so many Iranians traveling back and forth to Canada?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (4thlk)

285 There are people who seem to believe it's real, and that it has a real impact on their own lives.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:13 PM (hku12)

You looked to be blaming it on racism and irrational animus by the common Brits and holding these two blameless.

I disagree, there is a deal you understand when you sign up for that nonsense and racism has nothing to do with it. Classism, maybe, as Brits are snooty that way.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:23 PM (eoQWY)


I think it's naive of anyone to think race doesn't have anything to do with this.

Which isn't the same thing as saying I'm "blaming" it on racism.

And this whole episode strikes me as odd. People are saying they're upset that this dame isn't living up to the standards for royalty, and now that they're abdicating, everyone is pissed for them leaving it all behind.

Which is it?

Is she at fault for not being a proper princess or is she at fault for rejecting the fairy tale soap opera drama people love to stick their noses into?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)

286 In other news, a neighbor is learning to play the cello (I can hear it through the wall). Currently they're working on "Ode to Joy", very slowly.

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (pXNaM)

287 Political positions aside, interesting that he has the highest lead over the Warren that probably has the highest mental function remaining and the lowest lead over obviously daft Biden.

People like the least experienced / capable.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 01:24 PM (1g7ch)


I say again: Warren comes across as an HOA Nazi type. She could be the reincarnation of Marcus Aurelius in her policies, and she still would struggle because of her demeanor. Even Betoff saw that, and said she's always negative, always threatening to hold someone accountable for something. For once, I agreed with him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

288 Such a strange world, Youtube makes stars of these people who aren't all that good looking, have no talent, and seem to have an audience consisting of elementary school kids. And they make millions.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:07 PM (hku12)

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Yep. I just recently learned that "youtube influencer" is an actual job that potentially pays enormous amounts of money.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 11, 2020 01:30 PM (ZCrg5)

289 BurtTC, if you're still around: Sorry, I must have made the leap from your nick to the comic-strip character myself. "Bloom County" was still a biggie back then.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at January 11, 2020 01:25 PM (YqED9)


No problem. I would have read Bloom County, but have no memory of story lines, or even most of the characters. Opus was the penguin, right? That's about all I remember.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:32 PM (hku12)

290 Harry and Megan are going to deny rumors and burn cash. That's pretty much it.

Posted by: klaftern at January 11, 2020 01:32 PM (RuIsu)

291 "and now that they're abdicating, everyone is pissed for them leaving it all behind"


But they're not abdicating, they're trying to have it both ways, be globetrotting woke advocates/celebrities while retaining their titles and connections to the Monarchy.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:32 PM (4thlk)

292 >>> Is she at fault for not being a proper princess or is she at fault for rejecting the fairy tale soap opera drama people love to stick their noses into?

She is easy to dislike.

Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (dCRRg)

293 Such a strange world, Youtube makes stars of these people who aren't all that good looking, have no talent, and seem to have an audience consisting of elementary school kids. And they make millions.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:07 PM (hku12)

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Yep. I just recently learned that "youtube influencer" is an actual job that potentially pays enormous amounts of money.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 11, 2020 01:30 PM (ZCrg5)


Apparently one of the biggest "stars" of Youtube is an Asian looking kid who plays with toys.

I don't know the story behind it, but I'm guessing it's not quite as bad as a sweat shop, and presumably the kid gets to keep the toys, while his parents/handlers cash the checks.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

294 Jeebus this is horrible!

https://youtu.be/2IZ9uCtSqlQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 01:36 PM (+y/Ru)

295 Just thought, Prager who travels the world quite often has the opinion, and was agreed by a guest the other day that by and large young 20 something Iranians are losing Islam having been turned off by its brutality and strictest.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 01:37 PM (ZCEU2)

296
Is she at fault for not being a proper princess or is she at fault for rejecting the fairy tale soap opera drama people love to stick their noses into?
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)

If you hire the plumber to do your sink, and he doesn't show up, you might be a bit pissed at him for not doing the job he's agreed to do.

It may be just as simple as that. Some Brits got invested in the first part of the show, because they were directed to by the Royals and the Media.

Not everyone is as hyped up on race as leftists here. In the UK they cheerfully toss the white lower class yobs to the Muslims rape gangs without a thought.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:37 PM (eoQWY)

297 Iran is not out friend, they have not been our friends in over 40 years. They hate us and our way of life and would just as soon kill us if we do not bend to their will. Fuck Iran. Iran is not superman. Iran can be defeated via their economy, militarily if needed. We have no need for their oil. Again Fuck IRAN.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 11, 2020 01:38 PM (0OmEj)

298 Dear ESPN/ABC:



Once again, you're showing the NCAA FCS Championship and your halftime show is entirely devoted to the FBS Championship game on Monday. Is it possible you could, you know, focus on the game you're broadcasting?


(Yeah, right)

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:38 PM (pXNaM)

299 I don't know the story behind it, but I'm guessing it's not quite as bad as a sweat shop, and presumably the kid gets to keep the toys, while his parents/handlers cash the checks.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

-

Not exactly the same (beyond selling advertisements), but my wife got mad at me when I pointed out that the Honey-Boo-Boo "Yum yum, roadkill, let's eat!!!" trailer trash family was paid something like $40K per episode. They're paid to act like that to keep those checks coming, so of course they're going to behave like that.

People want to believe in things so badly. I'm a human and no different, but I'm trying to raise our kids to be skeptical about things.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 11, 2020 01:40 PM (ZCrg5)

300 I say again: Warren comes across as an HOA Nazi type. She could be the reincarnation of Marcus Aurelius in her policies, and she still would struggle because of her demeanor. Even Betoff saw that, and said she's always negative, always threatening to hold someone accountable for something. For once, I agreed with him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2020 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

Old Philosopher Marcus spent 20 years trying to take over the south Germans at immense cost and very little benefit. You'd think all that brilliance might have taught him to avoid that, or to raise his kids to be decent people.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:40 PM (eoQWY)

301 In other news, a neighbor is learning to play the cello (I can hear it
through the wall). Currently they're working on "Ode to Joy", very
slowly.
=====

Mutes for classical string instruments are inexpensive. Make one a gift and encourage your neighbor in their intellectual/musical endeavors.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 01:41 PM (MIKMs)

302 Anyone have a open source list of assholes Obama droned over the years

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2020 01:42 PM (akRFO)

303 292 >>> Is she at fault for not being a proper princess or is she at fault for rejecting the fairy tale soap opera drama people love to stick their noses into?
----------------------------
She is easy to dislike.
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (dCRRg)


Apparently so.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:42 PM (hku12)

304 Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 01:37 PM

Perhaps, but young Iranians aren't exactly filling the void left by Islam with "western decadence" either.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 11, 2020 01:43 PM (I99aF)

305 Just thought, Prager who travels the world quite often has the opinion, and was agreed by a guest the other day that by and large young 20 something Iranians are losing Islam having been turned off by its brutality and strictest.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 01:37 PM (ZCEU2)

There have always been quite a few secular Iranians out and about. My sister married one, their wedding was on the day of Carter's botched hostage rescue mission. I have some pretty half Iranian nieces and a new generation after that.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2020 01:43 PM (eoQWY)

306 My impression is that Harry - and most of the rest
of the royals, apart from the Queen and Prince Philip - have the
approximate IQ of turnips.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Not so. Turnips are the Einsteins of the root vegetable world. Now parsnips....

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2020 01:44 PM (T6t7i)

307 F him and all of his kind.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2020 12:53 PM (zHXTb)

Good Job Red!

The asshole that did that shit is lucky to still have a truck.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 01:44 PM (Z+IKu)

308 Mutes for classical string instruments are
inexpensive. Make one a gift and encourage your neighbor in their
intellectual/musical endeavors.


Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 01:41 PM (MIKMs)

Actually, not hard to endure. Better than other things I've heard various neighbors do.

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:45 PM (pXNaM)

309 I just sent the link to the Small Dead Animals interview to several friends. It is excellent and I hope people take the time to listen to or watch it. Man, does it ever expose the ineptitude and/or malfeasance of most US based media with respect to foreign affairs.

Posted by: corn and beans at January 11, 2020 01:45 PM (tkNkP)

310 So I see the Dems/media and the Iranian Gov.are in agreement.. It was Our fault they shot down that plane...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 11, 2020 01:45 PM (6XlcD)

311 >> Is she at fault for not being a proper princess or is she at fault for rejecting the fairy tale soap opera drama people love to stick their noses into?

She is easy to dislike.
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (dCRRg)

In everyday, real-world terms, she's the girl your brother or best friend goes with-or marries--who just can't get along or go along and ends up freezing out family and friends, or isolates them.
It always ends, and very rarely, well.

This will end too and be chalked up as a mistake for all involved.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 11, 2020 01:46 PM (CqE5x)

312 301
In other news, a neighbor is learning to play the cello (I can hear it

through the wall). Currently they're working on "Ode to Joy", very

slowly.


Count your blessings. My daughter had the apartment adjacent to a sax player, who felt that early in the morning was the best time to practice.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2020 01:46 PM (T6t7i)

313 Garden Nood

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at January 11, 2020 01:47 PM (ZCEU2)

314 I don't know the story behind it, but I'm guessing it's not quite as bad as a sweat shop, and presumably the kid gets to keep the toys, while his parents/handlers cash the checks.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

-

Not exactly the same (beyond selling advertisements), but my wife got mad at me when I pointed out that the Honey-Boo-Boo "Yum yum, roadkill, let's eat!!!" trailer trash family was paid something like $40K per episode. They're paid to act like that to keep those checks coming, so of course they're going to behave like that.

People want to believe in things so badly. I'm a human and no different, but I'm trying to raise our kids to be skeptical about things.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Tehran was turning his life around at January 11, 2020 01:40 PM (ZCrg5)


There are several family channels on Youtube that operate along similar lines. They're generally one of two categories: Marginally attractive people flaunting their wealth in fake "humorous" situations that occur in their everyday lives, or marginally attractive people who act like trash in fake "humorous" situations that occur in their everyday lives.

Lots of "pranks gone wrong," and strange occurrences involving coincidences that never happen to normal people.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:48 PM (hku12)

315 Report that the US has sent a "de-escalation" letter to Tehran via the Swiss (who have represented us in Tehran since 1979).

Of course all depends on the contents of letter, which we don't/probably won't have, any time soon.

But really, really don't like the sound of it, as reported.

What part of "maximum pressure" (the administration's term for its policy) is unclear here?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2020 01:49 PM (El6T/)

316
My impression is that Harry - and most of the rest
of the royals, apart from the Queen and Prince Philip - have the
approximate IQ of turnips.
=====

Pretty sure that QEII and PP have the same limited 'intellectual' capacity. Their long-term respect is for their work over 75+ years in doing the same old grind with smiles and waves. Both in their 90s and they keep on keeping on. Faithful workers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2020 01:49 PM (MIKMs)

317 Gardening thread is up. My keyboard quit working!

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at January 11, 2020 01:49 PM (BVQ+1)

318 Is she at fault for not being a proper princess or is she at fault for rejecting the fairy tale soap opera drama people love to stick their noses into?
----------------------------------
She is easy to dislike.
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2020 01:34 PM (dCRRg)

In everyday, real-world terms, she's the girl your brother or best friend goes with-or marries--who just can't get along or go along and ends up freezing out family and friends, or isolates them.
It always ends, and very rarely, well.

This will end too and be chalked up as a mistake for all involved.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 11, 2020 01:46 PM (CqE5x)


Or she's really good for him, and the family are the ones who are assholes, so when they walk away from the family, they remain happy, more or less oblivious to the drama they left behind, while the family stews in their hate.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:51 PM (hku12)

319 Some of those secular Iranians who are OK with Iran's influence gained via terror and meddling are in the streets chanting the familiar chants against the regime, this time with the Ukrainian airliner disaster as their focus.

Yep, looking real "unified" to me.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2020 01:51 PM (El6T/)

320 That's my point, why are so many Iranians traveling back and forth to Canada?
Posted by: lowandslow

Same question with regards to the direct flight from Tehran to Caracas

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2020 01:52 PM (akRFO)

321 That's my point, why are so many Iranians traveling back and forth to Canada?
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (4thlk)

Good question.

Maybe it's time to ban air travel into and out of Canada.

No one would miss it except the Red Chinese and Russian p

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 01:55 PM (Z+IKu)

322 I was really hoping that this Seville barber could hook me up with a nice Lavrentiy Beria makeover.

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders, Extra Crispy at January 11, 2020 01:56 PM (EgshT)

323 That's my point, why are so many Iranians traveling back and forth to Canada?


Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (4thlk)



Besides the university students, there's a pretty decent-sized ex-pat community there.

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 01:56 PM (pXNaM)

324 Report that the US has sent a "de-escalation" letter to Tehran via the Swiss (who have represented us in Tehran since 1979).

Of course all depends on the contents of letter, which we don't/probably won't have, any time soon.

But really, really don't like the sound of it, as reported.

What part of "maximum pressure" (the administration's term for its policy) is unclear here?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2020 01:49 PM (El6T/)


I skimmed across this week, neither participating in threads here, or delving into mainstream media coverage on this whole Iran thing.

So without any input from elsewhere, I concluded early on that Trump really blackened Iran's eye, and Iran did what they had to do to "save face" by launching some rockets.

So my impression is, we're exactly where we were before we killed the terrorist. Which is to say, Iran is on a short leash. Don't do anything stupid, we're keeping economic pressure on, and if we sniff any indications you're planning to attack any American interest, anywhere, you'll be sorry.

Which Iran knows. No matter what they say publicly.

So we don't have to go to war here, and I don't think the Trump administration wants to. They want to influence Iranian behavior, and possibly... possibly, effect regime change without it costing us any American lives.

Seems like brilliant strategy to me.

No matter what the chattering classes on various sides have to say.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:57 PM (hku12)

325 Looks like protests going on in Tehran over the plane downing admission.

Posted by: IC at January 11, 2020 01:59 PM (+Djpm)

326 That's my point, why are so many Iranians traveling back and forth to Canada?
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2020 01:28 PM (4thlk)

Good question.

Maybe it's time to ban air travel into and out of Canada.

No one would miss it except the Red Chinese and Russian p
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 01:55 PM (Z+IKu)


Time to get serious about building that wall along the Canuckian border.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 02:00 PM (hku12)

327 People travel, a million reasons why from every country, Iran is no different.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 02:01 PM (ZCEU2)

328
I'll bet the MFM is just beside itself. Iran admits to shooting down the plane and they will have to find some way to make it OrangeManBad's fault. Better use Iranian state propaganda again just like they did during the Salami funeral

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2020 02:04 PM (jXl61)

329 I think the term "resting bitch face" was retired after the world met Mike Obama.

Like retiring Babe Ruth's number.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2020 02:06 PM (Qf83p)

330 So we don't have to go to war here, and I don't think the Trump administration wants to. They want to influence Iranian behavior, and possibly... possibly, effect regime change without it costing us any American lives.

Seems like brilliant strategy to me.

No matter what the chattering classes on various sides have to say.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 01:57 PM (hku12)
-----------------
Correct- and in his speech this week he said something along the lines of "you can make your country great for your people too, but not by acting like this" so he has been sort of carrot and stick with them...

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at January 11, 2020 02:11 PM (9p0cQ)

331 327 People travel, a million reasons why from every country, Iran is no different.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 02:01 PM (ZCEU2)
-------------
Not for long, enjoy it while it lasts....

Posted by: Green New Deal at January 11, 2020 02:12 PM (9p0cQ)

332 Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: a rutabaga, music critic, and foreign policy expert at January 11, 2020 02:16 PM (Tnijr)

333 oops wrong thread

Posted by: a rutabaga, music critic, and foreign policy expert at January 11, 2020 02:16 PM (Tnijr)

334 Pffft, only Greta Grumpy Face travels by sail, the other pushers go private jet.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 02:16 PM (ZCEU2)

335 Season 3 of Mrs. Maisel...

the house they use for the outside shots (i'm assuming that's all, since i've never seen a minute of it) is about 1.5 miles from me.

the only reason i know is that they had a sign out front for awhile advertising the house for rent for other shoots.

F Hollyweird.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2020 02:17 PM (zHXTb)

336 Through all the broken years.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 11, 2020 02:19 PM (PUmDY)

337 I am not a conspiracy theory type, but it is so uncharacteristic for Iran to take responsibility for downing the plane that it made me wonder. I mean, normally they blatantly lie about everything and don't care whether they are called on it.

So why do this now? The only explanation is that the truth was worse. Seems far fetched to me, but perhaps they shot down the plane deliberately planning to blame it on the US's return fire. But then there wasn't any return fire so they were stuck.

Horribly short sighted and immeasurably depraved, but then we are talking about Iran.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 11, 2020 02:21 PM (fTtFy)

338 Horribly short sighted and immeasurably depraved, but then we are talking about Iran.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 11, 2020 02:21 PM (fTtFy)

Possibly. I still tend to believe is incompetence over malice. On the other hand, this could just be incompetent malice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 11, 2020 02:23 PM (ycWCI)

339 Crazy Bitch Stare is the active form of RBF. Big Mike's got it.

Posted by: klaftern at January 11, 2020 02:23 PM (RuIsu)

340 Season 3 of Mrs. Maisel...

the house they use for the outside shots (i'm assuming that's all, since i've never seen a minute of it) is about 1.5 miles from me.

the only reason i know is that they had a sign out front for awhile advertising the house for rent for other shoots.

F Hollyweird.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2020 02:17 PM (zHXTb)


It's entirely possible they'll recover from it, but Season 3 was a complete mess. The first two seasons were truly marvelous, and well worth seeing.

Especially I would assume, for anyone familiar with the time and/or place in which it is set.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 02:24 PM (hku12)

341 I am not a conspiracy theory type, but it is so uncharacteristic for Iran to take responsibility for downing the plane that it made me wonder. I mean, normally they blatantly lie about everything and don't care whether they are called on it.

So why do this now? The only explanation is that the truth was worse. Seems far fetched to me, but perhaps they shot down the plane deliberately planning to blame it on the US's return fire. But then there wasn't any return fire so they were stuck.

Horribly short sighted and immeasurably depraved, but then we are talking about Iran.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 11, 2020 02:21 PM (fTtFy)


Or maybe there was someone on the plane they wanted to take out.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 02:25 PM (hku12)

342 Looks like protests going on in Tehran over the plane downing admission.
Posted by: IC at January 11, 2020 01:59 PM (+Djpm)


Protesting the 'admission' or the shooting down?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 02:25 PM (1g7ch)

343 I am not a conspiracy theory type, but it is so
uncharacteristic for Iran to take responsibility for downing the plane
that it made me wonder. I mean, normally they blatantly lie about
everything and don't care whether they are called on it.



So why do this now? The only explanation is that the truth was
worse. Seems far fetched to me, but perhaps they shot down the plane
deliberately planning to blame it on the US's return fire. But then
there wasn't any return fire so they were stuck.



Horribly short sighted and immeasurably depraved, but then we are talking about Iran.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 11, 2020 02:21 PM (fTtFy)

I think two things, as mentioned by others here and in other threads:
Satellite imagery and videos don't lie.
International airlines probably said, "Come clean or we're outta here."

Posted by: Vendette at January 11, 2020 02:26 PM (pXNaM)

344 Garden Nood

-
Damn the thorns!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 02:27 PM (+y/Ru)

345 342, protesting the guards shooting down the plane and even chanting we believe the great satan. Lol

Posted by: IC at January 11, 2020 02:28 PM (+Djpm)

346 If I operated an airline, theres no way it would be in Iran.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 11, 2020 02:28 PM (2IcXZ)

347 even chanting we believe the great satan.

-
Blasphemy!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 11, 2020 02:30 PM (+y/Ru)

348 Lastly, did Iran admit they cleared the plane to takeoff before shooting it down?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 02:38 PM (1g7ch)

349 If a member of the Iranian government went on CNN to say Iran takes full responsibility of for shooting the plane down, insisting this had nothing to do with Donald Trump, the CNN talking head would get into a screaming match with him.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 11, 2020 02:45 PM (Uu+Jp)

350 Follow-up on Warren. Sorta of safe for work... if the boss does not mind you surfing the web for her 'beauty' regiment.


https://gunfreezone.net/that-explains-a-lot/


Links to Huffpo. Better the grunfreezone as it has excerpted enough to get the gist of it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 02:49 PM (1g7ch)

351 Speaking of reality tv. Netflix is doing a reality show about the cheerleaders here Navarro Jr College. I had no idea they were that good.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 11, 2020 02:49 PM (LS6j5)

352 What episode is the shower scene?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 02:54 PM (1g7ch)

353
Here's an artistic interpretation of Pelosi's impeachment of President Trump and the American People's Reaction:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvrwPEgHq_A


Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2020 02:59 PM (q57gj)

354 Shooting down your own airliners cannot be good for Globull Warmering.

Has anyone told Greta Joachim Peiperface about this yet?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2020 03:00 PM (Z+IKu)

355 It's entirely possible they'll recover from it, but Season 3 was a complete mess. The first two seasons were truly marvelous, and well worth seeing.

Especially I would assume, for anyone familiar with the time and/or place in which it is set.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 02:24 PM (hku12)
---
Was it educating us on Important Truths about the civil rights era?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 11, 2020 03:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

356 Here's an artistic interpretation of Pelosi's impeachment of President Trump and the American People's Reaction:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvrwPEgHq_A


Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2020 02:59 PM (q57gj)


Nope, not gonna click it.
I know it goes to, "Two Girls, One Cup."

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 03:02 PM (1g7ch)

357 started watching You

Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 11, 2020 03:03 PM (G546f)

358 It's entirely possible they'll recover from it, but Season 3 was a complete mess. The first two seasons were truly marvelous, and well worth seeing.

Especially I would assume, for anyone familiar with the time and/or place in which it is set.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 02:24 PM (hku12)
---
Was it educating us on Important Truths about the civil rights era?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 11, 2020 03:01 PM (Dc2NZ)


No, other than the abomination that was their treatment of Phyllis Schlafly, the crime they committed during this season was taking characters were got to know (and love) in the first two seasons, and turning them into caricatures of themselves.

And in the service of having a story go the way they wanted, they forced people to act very differently from how they were acting in the prior seasons.

I suspect, but don't know, there were different writers on this season. That creative control was left in the hands of people who were not responsible for Seasons 1 and 2.

It's a shame, because it was great television. Really.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 03:05 PM (hku12)

359 I just read the the Sultan of Oman, Qaboos bin Said, has passed away. He ruled Oman for 50 years, and modernized the country tremendously. It's very Western friendly, since he went to Sandhurst and was in the British military for several years before returning to Oman.


It is one of my favorite places in the world. The people are amazingly friendly, the country is beautiful, and they are pragmatic.

His cousin Haitham bin Said has succeeded him. I know nothing of this fellow, so it will be interesting (in a not good way) to see what happens. Oman is on the Strait of Hormuz across from Iran, and has had to balance that relationship carefully. I hope to goodness the new Sultan is wise in how he goes forward.

Posted by: Moki at January 11, 2020 03:06 PM (mFoNl)

360 And he reminds us that "Quds", the name of the force headed up by Soleimani, means "Jerusalem".

----
Does it actually mean the same thing?
I know it refers to the same geography, but it's just the name the mohammadans gave to David's city when they conquered it.

Posted by: Methos at January 11, 2020 03:08 PM (kOpft)

361 If its not quick Pelosi's gambit is going to put a damper on Sanders and Warren's campaigns unless its a quick dismissal

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 03:10 PM (ZCEU2)

362
Is it in the Constitution that senators can't partake in an impeachment trial if they're candidates for potus?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 03:13 PM (+F8ZI)

363 Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2020 02:59 PM (q57gj)


Nope, not gonna click it.
I know it goes to, "Two Girls, One Cup."
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 11, 2020 03:02 PM (1g7ch)


No, it's worse than that. Two Girls, One Cup is artistry compared to this.

Besides, Youtube doesn't allow anything interesting on their platform anymore, so you don't have to worry about naught bits.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2020 03:13 PM (hku12)

364

AoS Companion post is nood

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 11, 2020 03:16 PM (+F8ZI)

365 360 Yes, Muslims have many groups with titles about returning Jerusalem to the Ismam.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2020 03:18 PM (ZCEU2)

366 I think the Ukrainians probably told them you better let us inspect this wreckage, listen to the black box, and give us the remains of our people, or we will tell Uncle Pooty-poo to cut off the cash.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 11, 2020 03:31 PM (cvTNJ)

367 Posted by: one of the quiet ones at January 11, 2020 11:48 AM (2GPSc)

Agree totally, but the M with a crown is actually of combination of H & M and I thought it was well done.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 11, 2020 03:37 PM (cvTNJ)

368 357 started watching You
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 11, 2020 03:03 PM (G546f)

Its a dark comedy to me. I can't tell if the culture is being mocked or not. Definitely a guilty pleasure.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 11, 2020 03:38 PM (8j6Fo)

369 LOL!!!!!!

Markel reportedly signed a deal with Disney.

Yes, now we have a LITERAL Disney Princess!

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at January 11, 2020 03:43 PM (NgKpN)

370 Tammy al-Thor

Unlikely. Those two countries are fighting a low-grade war against each other. Russia will not help Ukraine.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 11, 2020 03:50 PM (u82oZ)

371 The tragically funny thing about this is that the Armed Forces have known this for years...or at least, some had an idea.

I was assigned to the Persian Farsi school at the Defense Language Institute at Monterey in 1995, where I quickly learned what the reality actually is. The problem was that -- at least for the Army -- some of the careerists in the upper ranks were too busy playing politics, expecting to keep kicking the can down the road indefinitely. So the Farsi school ended up being something of the redheaded stepchild to the Arabic and Russian schools. Yet, they'd still keep sending a bunch of potential interpreters and analysts to the school even though they weren't sure exactly what to do with them.

I think even the brass who knew that it was only a matter of time before Shit Got Real had to contend with the fact that the politicians thought they just magically knew better without knowing a single word of Farsi. I mean, they're all Super Smart(TM), so they couldn't possibly know less than a bunch of lower-class enlistees and junior officers, amirite?

Posted by: Saber Alter at January 11, 2020 09:40 PM (D9E0b)

372 Saber Alter at January 11, 2020 09:40 PM
Your experiences are telling. Interesting that Trump wanted to speak to enlisted men rather than generals on his last trip. Junior officers wouldn't be a bad idea, either.

Posted by: KT at January 11, 2020 10:12 PM (BVQ+1)

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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat