The Morning Rant - Merry Christmas


I really liked CBD's rant about Christmas that he posted last week.

The fact is that Christianity has been a huge driver of Western political philosophy, and is indispensable to the cause of freedom. And spare me your sanctimonious lectures about religion being responsible for so much death and destruction in human history...

Screw you...I'll take Christianity, with all of its warts, any day. And don''t forget that much of the glory of Western art and music was financed by the Church, or created to express religious themes.

So here is another example of how Christian faith has inspired some great art. My daughter, who graduated with a degree in music, told me that in order to understand and appreciate all that is going on in the development of Western music, you also need to understand what was going on Church history during that time. The two are so intertwined, they are virtually inseperable.

That said, I've always liked the Medieval Baebes vocal group, they have voices like angels, and this song about Christ's incarnation is one of my favorites. Merry Christmas to all of the Horde!



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1 Thats ok

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 11:30 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Somewhere before ten

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at December 25, 2019 11:31 AM (NHHhK)

3 I see Spritz, Chocolates chip, gingerbread men, snowball and oatmeal

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 11:32 AM (ZCEU2)

4 Corgis dutifully called btw

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 11:33 AM (ZCEU2)

5 We're here now! Yay!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Measure Your Fury With A Rage-o-Meter from The Outrage Outlet! at December 25, 2019 11:33 AM (7ULem)

6 Happy Hordemas!

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:34 AM (G546f)

7 No who dis? What a gyp.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at Bartertown at December 25, 2019 11:34 AM (gd9RK)

8 Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all of the Morons and 'Ettes!

Posted by: washrivergal at December 25, 2019 11:34 AM (5DZMc)

9 and Hordeful Hanukkah

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:35 AM (G546f)

10 Merry Christmas. Prayers please for family back in Ajax La that lost a Husband, Father, and Grandfather last week.

R

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 25, 2019 11:35 AM (JFO2v)

11 Oh, wow.. I coulda been... at least third.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, friends in gray boxes.

And if it can't be merry, may it be at least relatively painless.

Posted by: mindful webworker - be of good cheer at December 25, 2019 11:35 AM (ECLlc)

12 what's a bluebonnet?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

13 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 25, 2019 11:37 AM (arJlL)

14 vmom, a flower.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (MTxDQ)

15 Mmmm...cookies.

I made cookie dough Sunday and it's been in the fridge ever since. I'll be baking them this afternoon. Christmas with the family on Saturday, so it's fine.

Posted by: April at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (OX9vb)

16 3 I see Spritz, Chocolates chip, gingerbread men, snowball and oatmeal
Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 11:32 AM (ZCEU2)
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The Christmas food groups.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (jx3OG)

17 I made bourbon brownies to give away a few days ago...

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (G546f)

18 Willowed:

Eating time approx 30 mins.

Biscuits 'n sausage gravy
Oven baked french toast
Mexican Egg Casserole
Cimmanon Rolls
Salmon, Caviar, Cr Cheese, crostinis
Jalapeno cheese cake

You're all welcome to stop by. Plenty for all.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (Dhht7)

19 Merry Christmas, Horde!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still auditioning new socks at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (fTXru)

20 sounds yummy olddog

you get your eggs all the way from.Mexico?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:39 AM (G546f)

21 Prayers up, rhennigantx. My sympathies for your loss.

Posted by: April at December 25, 2019 11:40 AM (OX9vb)

22 Anyone have a good Christmas family fight story to share?

Posted by: Weasel at December 25, 2019 11:40 AM (fksqF)

23 what's a bluebonnet?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

Margarine

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 25, 2019 11:41 AM (3ji9r)

24 Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah everyone.

Remember Amazon is always there if you didn't get what you wanted /sarc

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 11:42 AM (n4y+3)

25 what's a bluebonnet?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

Margarine

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 25, 2019 11:41 AM (3ji9r)

everything's better with Bluebonnet on it

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2019 11:43 AM (X/Pw5)

26 what's a bluebonnet?

Twunny bucks, same as in town !

Posted by: JT at December 25, 2019 11:43 AM (arJlL)

27 Joan Collins

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 25, 2019 11:43 AM (aKsyK)

28 ( ) Merry Christmas

( ) Happy Hanukkah

( ) Concerned


Couldn't leave out our resident trolls now, could I?

* throws lumps of coal to the trolls.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 25, 2019 11:43 AM (QzJWU)

29 thanks guyz

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:43 AM (G546f)

30 Merry Christmas. From the last thread, what is up with the SDNY...what was so special about these guys that trump's AG's had to recuse themselves from, you know, running the place?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 25, 2019 11:44 AM (FEQY4)

31 what's a bluebonnet?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

https://tinyurl.com/vdc9xmv

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 25, 2019 11:44 AM (G4QIa)

32 Anyone have a good Christmas family fight story to share?
Posted by: Weasel

Nah, I only have a good Wedding Reception fight story........and I gotta get goin'... Merry Christmas Horde and to our gracious host.

Posted by: JT at December 25, 2019 11:45 AM (arJlL)

33 ..what's a bluebonnet?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)



Wicked deadly 'ette with a shiv.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 25, 2019 11:45 AM (QzJWU)

34 "And a state that's it's own country..."
Not for long.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 25, 2019 11:46 AM (H8QX8)

35 For everyone that got coal in their stockings, maybe we can meet up later and grill dinner.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2019 11:46 AM (dEvh1)

36 Bandersnatch #7: No who dis? What a gyp.

Should've had six different portraits of Jesus. In the usual WhoDis tradition of none of the pix looking like the same person.

Posted by: mindful webworker - be of good cheer - it's not just a good idea at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (ECLlc)

37 Good morning and Merry Christmas, Horde.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (xkSJa)

38 24 Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah everyone.

Remember Amazon is always there if you didn't get what you wanted /sarc
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 11:42

I ordered house numbers from amazon this am. Since the neighbors couldn't be bothered to bring over 3 misdelivered packages.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (MTxDQ)

39 the year someone unwisely gave one of my brothers a pop gun. Cousin Richie popped all the old glass ornaments on our tree on Christmas Eve. Christmas Day we went to Richie's house. As soon as we got in the door, my brother Vinnie headed straight for their tree. Richie's sister Camille tried to block Vinnie and yelled "Nooooo!" but it was futile. Vinnie hurled himself onto their tree and brought it down.
Good times.

Posted by: vivi at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (11H2y)

40 Who's the idiot that put together that Texas 12 Days bit?
It's *SIX* flags a-flyin', idjit. Damn, any TEXAN knows that.

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (j50YY)

41 https://tinyurl.com/vdc9xmv

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 25, 2019 11:44 AM (G4QIa)

Link goes to a shutterstock sign up page

Posted by: Did I miss sumptin? at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (/LQkF)

42 I see Spritz, Chocolates chip, gingerbread men, snowball and oatmeal

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 11:32 AM (ZCEU2)


No lebkuchen, though.

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 11:48 AM (j50YY)

43 It's true. Religion, over the years, has caused the death of a lot of people.

If you want to get the slaughterhouses REALLY spooled up, it takes totalitarian, collectivist Atheist government - responsible for approx. 100 million deaths alone in the 20th century.

And that's not counting the wars; that they caused.

Don't be fooled.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 25, 2019 11:49 AM (tOHeO)

44 I made bourbon brownies to give away a few days ago...

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (G546f)


But did you actually give any away?

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 11:50 AM (j50YY)

45 Infidel that reminds me. One of my gifts this year is the blessing of great neighbors.

How did your Christmas unwrapping go? I imagine it was pretty emotional for your daughter with the found card from your dad and all.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 11:50 AM (n4y+3)

46 Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all the Horde and to those they love!

Remember what God said to the shepherds that first Christmas: Fear Not!

God loves us so much He gave us His son Jesus.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 25, 2019 11:51 AM (QMwOT)

47 Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and a blessed day to all.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 25, 2019 11:51 AM (WkaWu)

48 Posted by: Did I miss sumptin? at December 25, 2019 11:47 AM (/LQkF)

Well, fuckity^4..... Look for Texas pasture filled bluebonnets sunset.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 25, 2019 11:51 AM (G4QIa)

49 the sdny is the cut throat gang of reavers, that guiliani created, he's kind of dr, franken, comey, fitz, spitzer, bhaara came through that boot camp, now the atty for the concord group, also spent 8 years there, so he knows many of these 'jedi mind tricks,'

Posted by: gaius martius at December 25, 2019 11:51 AM (hMlTh)

50 ..what's a bluebonnet?


Used to be a Bowl game. I think they played it in Houston.

The Medevial Babes are pretty good. Youtube-ing them now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 25, 2019 11:52 AM (tQQRE)

51 so I just offered him my wife's seat on the plane.

Umm, your wife's?

Posted by: t-bird at December 25, 2019 11:52 AM (Ibwur)

52 It was PaleRider. We had a nice evening. Dinner was delish. I also got her a heart ornament with her deceased son's name on it. Even had son in law tearing up.

How was yours?

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 11:53 AM (MTxDQ)

53 "Should've had six different portraits of Jesus."

Heh. That would have been perfect. (Have to be _baby_ Jesus, though. )

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 11:53 AM (j50YY)

54
Don't be fooled.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 25, 2019 11:49 AM (tOHeO)

And then I'll get on my knees and pray

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 25, 2019 11:54 AM (3ji9r)

55 "I made bourbon brownies to give away a few days ago..."

....and ate them all myself? That's how it would work 'round here.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 25, 2019 11:54 AM (tOHeO)

56 VMOM: I will take Several dozen.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 25, 2019 11:55 AM (QMwOT)

57 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 25, 2019 11:51 AM (G4QIa)

One of us needs to see an eye doctor. Either I cant see it or you are seeing things. Either way, the optomotrist wins.

Posted by: Did I miss sumptin? at December 25, 2019 11:55 AM (/LQkF)

58 so I just offered him my wife's seat on the plane

Obviously not going to his in-laws' for Christmas.

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 11:55 AM (j50YY)

59 ....and ate them all myself?

Posted by: Common Tater at December 25, 2019 11:54 AM (tOHeO)


I knew I couldn't be the only one thinking that.

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 11:56 AM (j50YY)

60 so I just offered him my wife's seat on the plane

Obviously not going to his in-laws' for Christmas.
Posted by: GWB


Obviously headed to a divorce attorney.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2019 11:58 AM (dEvh1)

61 Posted by: Did I miss sumptin? at December 25, 2019 11:55 AM (/LQkF)

Use the googleator machine and search for Texas field of bluebonnets at sunset. The image taken from Ennis, Tx is my favorite.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 25, 2019 11:59 AM (G4QIa)

62 Cookies.

I have banished carbs for the interim.

Cookies are evil.

Posted by: blaster at December 25, 2019 12:00 PM (ZfRYq)

63 My condolences blaster.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:01 PM (MTxDQ)

64 Cookies.

I have banished carbs for the interim.

Cookies are evil.
Posted by: blaster


Yeah. And we have a house full of blueberry muffins, biscuits, sweet rolls & crumb cake for breakfast.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2019 12:03 PM (dEvh1)

65 Merry Christmas everyone! Glory to God in the highest!

Posted by: Dr. T at December 25, 2019 12:03 PM (Vgw1E)

66
so I just offered him my wife's seat on the plane




Take my wife's seat. Please

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 25, 2019 12:03 PM (3ji9r)

67 Infidel our Christmas is low key. I will cook a turkey today because we went to neighbors for T-day. I made a pasta with sausage Alfredo and veggies last night, inspired by all the Christmas Lasagna folks, but too lazy for lasagna. The Alfredo was pretty tasty and will be added to my supper rotation.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:03 PM (n4y+3)

68 Carbs will be re-banished from my house on January 1. Until then, it's a free-for-all.

Posted by: April at December 25, 2019 12:04 PM (OX9vb)

69 I think the kids are going to put their house on the market this spring. Polesmoker policies are killing oil/gas industry here. Gives me a sad.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:04 PM (MTxDQ)

70 PaleRider, recipe for the pasta? I've been looking for a sausage ravioli recipe.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:06 PM (MTxDQ)

71 So...

Milady and I are at Mom's for the Day. We already did our big family dinner-and-gifts day last Saturday.

Son (not married) just texted that he and cousin S will be here in an hour or so. We're just going to have a light Christmas lunch.

Son (married) and family are at their home in Big City.

Daughter (practically engaged) is meeting her new beau's family in upstate NY! (I taunt her with our almost-70° Christmas Day weather.) She confirms that Italian Christmas Eve feasting was impressive. Also, most importantly, his family seemingly approves of her. !!!

Christmas gifts don't always come with ribbons & bows.

Posted by: mindful webworker - be of good cheer - it's not just a good idea, it's a command from the Son of God at December 25, 2019 12:06 PM (ECLlc)

72 Merry Christmas!

and a special prayer for Hunter Biden who is forced to live in a $14,000 house.
https://tinyurl.com/yx4w3kh9

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 25, 2019 12:09 PM (r+sAi)

73 What a lovely Christmas mindful!

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:09 PM (MTxDQ)

74 Thats too bad Infidel, of course energy business in Colorado has a long history of booms and then big busts.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:09 PM (n4y+3)

75 "We're just going to have a light Christmas lunch."


So, something less than 4,000 calories?

Posted by: GWB at December 25, 2019 12:10 PM (j50YY)

76 The Keto chocolate chip cookies made with almond flour are actually pretty good. They've kept me from binging. At least until I got homemade peanut brittle and fudge for Christmas.

Posted by: Bean Counteress of Rohan at December 25, 2019 12:11 PM (2+j2N)

77 68 Carbs will be re-banished from my house on January 1. Until then, it's a free-for-all.
Posted by: April

same same

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 12:12 PM (G546f)

78 Carb hunting season runs from 12/24-12/31

Posted by: Downcast at December 25, 2019 12:13 PM (HRjvD)

79 Good write up. Religion has not caused more wars. Economics has.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 25, 2019 12:13 PM (axyOa)

80 55 "I made bourbon brownies to give away a few days ago..."

....and ate them all myself? That's how it would work 'round here.
Posted by: Common Tater at Decembe

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no but I'm wondering if I should make more

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 12:13 PM (G546f)

81 Merry Christmas all, happiness and good cheer, and fuck the left up the ass!

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 25, 2019 12:13 PM (+dsLj)

82 and fuck the left up the ass!

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 25, 2019 12:13 PM (+dsLj)


Barry O: Sounds good to me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 25, 2019 12:14 PM (FdGKu)

83 Every year at this time I think back to those previous Christmases far from home. Sometime I took the rotation so that those with families could spend them with their wives and children. Those of us pulling the duty would spend our time together quietly as we worked, checking in and looking after each other. Sometimes I might be invited to share a Christmas dinner with a local family from church or other familiarity. Those adoptive families expressing sincere affection and appreciation were a gift simply in truth of their very being real. Those bitter sweet days are touch points to me that I had enough wisdom despite my youth to know I should pause and take notice and commit to memory the sounds smells feelings and hopes.

I hope you all take opportunities to mark some of the moments of this holiday season to burn into your soul the sounds of friendly voices and faces of those you spend time with and truly be fully present with all the sweetness, how ever small and short. In that way you may find the true joy of Christmas.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at December 25, 2019 12:15 PM (af5xa)

84 Thats too bad Infidel, of course energy business in Colorado has a long history of booms and then big busts.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:09 PM (n4y+3)

Yes, I was here for Black Sunday. That was a horrible time. I survived tho.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:15 PM (MTxDQ)

85 Milady and I are at Mom's for the Day. We already did our big family dinner-and-gifts day last Saturday.



Christmas gifts don't always come with ribbons & bows.

Posted by: mindful webworker - be of good cheer - it's not just a good idea, it's a command from the Son of God at December 25, 2019 12:06 PM (ECLlc)

Us too. Kids/Gkids spread out w/their other families today. I'm off to see mom this afternoon, so she and her sis won't get bored w/each other.

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2019 12:16 PM (X/Pw5)

86 I only use a recipe for baking. I just used Jimmy Dean sage sausage and a jar of Prego 4-cheese Alfredo sauce with a bit of onion flakes, Italian seasoning, pepper and garlic tossed in for the sauche and boiled some pasta and cali blend veggies together. First time I've tried a jarred Alfredo sauce, I will buy again as it worked quite well.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:16 PM (n4y+3)

87 And spare me your sanctimonious lectures about religion being responsible for so much death and destruction in human history...


Except, of course, where it wasn't...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 25, 2019 12:17 PM (D7+zb)

88 Have heard that Leftist saw about religion causing more wars before.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 12:18 PM (ZCEU2)

89 Have heard that Leftist saw about religion causing more wars before.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 12:18 PM (ZCEU2)

I usually hear it blamed on Christianity....other religions are just fine.

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2019 12:22 PM (X/Pw5)

90 Carbs are a gift from God right up there with brisket, bacon, alcoholic beverages of all kinds and fruit pies.

My A1C begs to disagree but fuck it! It is Christmas.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 25, 2019 12:22 PM (QMwOT)

91 I will be having a filet mignon for dinner so it's not all bad.

Posted by: blaster at December 25, 2019 12:23 PM (ZfRYq)

92 Legal Insurrection- First time Christmas mass hadn't been held at Notre Dame in over 200 years. And rumblings about the rebuilding, probably about the minarets some want built around it.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 12:23 PM (ZCEU2)

93 Our Founders had studied history and knew that religion mixed into government power structures often had bad consequences. Of course the commies or old empires where "the government is the or a supreme being" have proved much worse time and time again.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:24 PM (n4y+3)

94 43 It's true. Religion, over the years, has caused the death of a lot of people."

Everyone knows that most of that is actually the fault of Guns, Swords, and Axes.

anything to avoid blaming it on the people themselves, who were doing what people like to do best.

Religion is at its worst not when it influences people to do things, but rather when it becomes an excuse for people doing what they always wanted to do anyways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 25, 2019 12:26 PM (V2Yro)

95 Merry Christmas to you and your family and the families of everyone else that stops by here. That includes you Elizabeth Warren and I'm sorry HRC but Santa said you'll never be POTUS.
Thank you for the link to the video; angelic voices indeed.

Posted by: mer at December 25, 2019 12:26 PM (or4l7)

96 If you want to go full binge without the gluten theres a brand called Against The Grain that has awesome bagels and pizza alternatives. Very expensive but good for a special treat during the holidays.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 25, 2019 12:26 PM (+dsLj)

97 Merry Christmas, Morons.

Posted by: garrett at December 25, 2019 12:26 PM (WCL8/)

98 Why are atheists not at work today? Hypocrites.
As for the Left: you tried to destroy the Church in every country you have conquered. You failed in all of them. In fact, in all the Church has thrived while in most your commie governments no longer exist.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 25, 2019 12:27 PM (QMwOT)

99 I thought it was atheistic communism that had the highest death toll? Thats impressive too since it was more of a recent invention (at least in its current iteration)

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 25, 2019 12:28 PM (+dsLj)

100 sorry HRC but Santa said you'll never be POTUS.

Almost as good as addressing the golden scalp weasel as POTUS!

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:30 PM (MTxDQ)

101 By the way: In 1991 the USSR ceased to exist on 12/26. Heh.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 25, 2019 12:30 PM (QMwOT)

102 May the Horde have a blessed and very Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 25, 2019 12:31 PM (Uu+Jp)

103 Hate to be that guy but it should be its own country, no apostrophe.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 25, 2019 12:31 PM (OB3BK)

104 Prior to the rise of Christianity it was considered completely normal to not only have slaves but to force them to fight to the death for your amusement, and then crucify them if they didn't go along with it.


And when we look at countries that have abandoned Christianity like Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany you see a revision to that sort of barbarism.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 25, 2019 12:31 PM (WdocV)

105 93 Our Founders had studied history and knew that religion mixed into government power structures often had bad consequences."

They didn't have to look far. They all knew that the King was the head of the Church of England, and although things weren't quite as repressive in the 18th Century as they'd been in the bad old days of mass executions, you still didn't have a chance in Hell of being any part of the King's Government unless you were a faithful member of the Church of England. (Because to refuse to be a member was a direct Insult to the King, of course) Those kinds of policies brought most of the Puritans to New England.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 25, 2019 12:32 PM (V2Yro)

106 Yes atheist socialism has killed more people then any other ideology. Both the Soviet Union and red China killed something like a hundred million people, specifically not counting any wars they were in.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 25, 2019 12:33 PM (WdocV)

107 Things would have been a lot worse without Christianity.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 25, 2019 12:33 PM (+0AKE)

108 Bbbbut bbbut the crusades!!!!!!
-Twitter people

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 25, 2019 12:34 PM (OB3BK)

109 Yes atheist socialism has killed more people then any other ideology. Both the Soviet Union and red China killed something like a hundred million people, specifically not counting any wars they were in.


And that 100 million are mostly their own people, who were just inconvenient.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 25, 2019 12:35 PM (D7+zb)

110 Merry Christmas and Happy Hannakuh to all The Glorious Horde.

May the Infinite Blessings of Yhwh and The Holy Child fill your lives and bring you peace.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 25, 2019 12:37 PM (M7snF)

111 Joyeaux Noel? Non.

Got call by alarm company last night, yes Christmas Eve, that sensors had tripped in house. I was at my parents more than three hours away.

Looks like alarm going off spooked them so they bolted. Got home, unlocked the door the deputies locked, and went in armed with flashlight and dagger.

Nothing seems missing. All cats accounted for.

As for the thief. FUCK YOU and Go To Hell.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2019 12:37 PM (8qzun)

112 Anyone have a good Christmas family fight story to share?

Posted by: Weasel at December 25, 2019 11:40 AM (fksqF)


You bet Weasel. Hubby and I got into it last night (I don't even know how) and he was bringing up crap I did 15 years ago and I doubled down and brought up shit he did 30 years ago.

We're still mad at each other this morning. Luckily we will be having no guests we gotta fake it for.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 25, 2019 12:37 PM (RfzVr)

113 Christmas is fun and all but my family goes overboard and I get burned out. Next year I want a trip to Hawaii, just me, wife and kids. Keep it simple. And the money saved on not buying a gazillion presents will pay for the trip probably.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 25, 2019 12:39 PM (OB3BK)

114 Anna, glad you are safe.

I'm so sorry cfo mom.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:39 PM (MTxDQ)

115 Hot apple cider?

It's a type of wassail.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 25, 2019 12:40 PM (D7+zb)

116 106: And in our own country its what 50 million abortions? -- not only atheists have supported abortion of course but you can't truly believe in a divine spark and support killing that spark in the womb.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:41 PM (n4y+3)

117 Boris Johnson reciting the Iliad from memory.

In the ancient Greek language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia7N5MSlSTo

Posted by: Braenyard at December 25, 2019 12:41 PM (WkaWu)

118 I foresee a nap in my near future.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:41 PM (MTxDQ)

119 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2019 12:37 PM (8qzun)

*Gives the warrior bow*

I trust it was a wakizashi...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 25, 2019 12:42 PM (G4QIa)

120 Oh it will all be good Infidel. We can't stay mad for too long, although we sometimes try ;-)

Posted by: cfo mom at December 25, 2019 12:45 PM (RfzVr)

121 cfo

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 12:45 PM (MTxDQ)

122 Off to do a few chores.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 25, 2019 12:45 PM (n4y+3)

123 No wazikashi, does not fit under car seat...

A very nice pointy Renaissance dagger that is perfect for slipping betwixt the ribs to prick a heart.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2019 12:46 PM (8qzun)

124 Compare and contrast:

The West, under the Judeo Christian ethic, versus the ME under Mohammed.

Toss in the godless Commies and, well, there you have it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 25, 2019 12:46 PM (WEBkv)

125 Pellet grill is fired up as I will be putting the standing rib roast on to smoke for a fair bit before cranking up the heat.

Smashed potatoes, salad, bacon brussel sprouts, biscuits by Red Lobster and lemon bars for desert.

Mmmm.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 25, 2019 12:48 PM (WEBkv)

126 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 25, 2019 12:26 PM (V2Yro)

I responded to you about where I was raised

last time I talk to someone from there, they said that area was under Lake Fork. I moved away in 1968

you probably know of it

Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 12:48 PM (rpxSz)

127 I see mccabe is making the TV interview circuit and claiming Trump and Barr are "withholding" evidence from him.

It's almost like the former head of the FBI wants to see what the DOJ has on him in their ongoing criminal investigation.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 25, 2019 12:51 PM (JUOKG)

128 Got call by alarm company last night, yes Christmas Eve, that sensors had tripped in house. I was at my parents more than three hours away.

Looks like alarm going off spooked them so they bolted. Got home, unlocked the door the deputies locked, and went in armed with flashlight and dagger.

Nothing seems missing. All cats accounted for.

As for the thief. FUCK YOU and Go To Hell.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2019 12:37 PM (8qzun)

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We've had a rash of thefts from cars in our neighborhood. People leave presents in their cars, park their cars in the driveway and thieves break in during the night. Of course, Ring doorbells see the thieves but they're all wearing dark hoodies over their faces.

And this is a pretty quiet neighborhood.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 25, 2019 12:51 PM (WEBkv)

129 President Trump sings a Christmas Song to you.

https://tinyurl.com/wznw3vb

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 25, 2019 12:52 PM (r+sAi)

130 Merry Christmas y'all

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 12:52 PM (NWiLs)

131 Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 25, 2019 12:52 PM (ZLI7S)

132 130 Merry Christmas y'all
Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 12:52 PM (NWiLs)

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Right back at you.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 25, 2019 12:53 PM (WEBkv)

133 Nothing seems missing. All cats accounted for.

As for the thief. FUCK YOU and Go To Hell.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2019 12:37 PM (8qzun)

A few years back in a couple of towns over, Rip Torn came in late and drunk.

Thought the Local bank was his house and proceeded to break in

busted

Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 12:54 PM (rpxSz)

134 Sorry, to hear that Anna,


Hope everything else goes well for you.


Too bad you didn't have a shotgun.

A racked shorty is guaranteed to0 produce max mum pants-shitting in any miscreants.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 25, 2019 12:55 PM (XGA+D)

135 Merry Christmas everyone.. i love cookies but i don't have to eat sugar these days http://www.oyunlarr.com/pasta-oyunlari

Posted by: pastacan at December 25, 2019 12:56 PM (e8vEy)

136 Merry Christmas everyone.. i love cookies but i don't have to eat sugar these days

Posted by: pastacan at December 25, 2019 12:57 PM (e8vEy)

137 Merry Christmas to the horde! I'm taking a short break from child proofing the house since we got suckered into having christmas here.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 25, 2019 12:57 PM (9Om/r)

138 126 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 25, 2019 12:26 PM (V2Yro)
I responded to you about where I was raised
last time I talk to someone from there, they said that area was under Lake Fork. I moved away in 1968

you probably know of it
Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 12:48 PM (rpxSz)

Oh yes, I know the area, back in the 80's I worked on some gas wells that were directionally drilled under that lake, they were over toward the metropolis of Yantis.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 25, 2019 12:58 PM (V2Yro)

139 Merry Christmas everyone!

A few prayers for our community please. Two kids in a car wreck on the 23rd. One dead at the scene and the other critical but awake. These families are going through he'll right now.

Posted by: Madamemayhem at December 25, 2019 12:59 PM (myjNJ)

140 A few prayers for our community please. Two kids in a car wreck on the 23rd. One dead at the scene and the other critical but awake. These families are going through he'll right now.
Posted by: Madamemayhem at December 25, 2019 12:59 PM (myjNJ)
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done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 25, 2019 01:01 PM (WEBkv)

141 That should be hell not he'll. New tablet is fussy.

Posted by: Madamemayhem at December 25, 2019 01:02 PM (myjNJ)

142 metropolis of Yantis.

snort

Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 01:03 PM (rpxSz)

143 141 That should be hell not he'll. New tablet is fussy.
Posted by: Madamemayhem at December 25, 2019 01:02 PM (myjNJ)

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Probably a commie tablet that doesn't believe in hell.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 25, 2019 01:04 PM (WEBkv)

144 Merry Christmas to everybody.


Last year we get to play "mistaken Santa" for the two beautiful little blonde girls from next door [Santa mistakenly brought something for them to our house] - they love the tree and the train - and of course the extra Christmas swag. They're getting to the age where, in their dad's words, "they're starting to punch holes in Santa's magic", so he thinks this will be the last year for it.






Posted by: rhomboid at December 25, 2019 01:04 PM (El6T/)

145 I hope all of your dreams were answered today and the New Year brings even more to each and every one of you

God bless you all

Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 01:06 PM (rpxSz)

146 Just getting up

Had a raucous party last night. Folks here drinking and making merry past 1am. House is a disaster, but it was so fun.

Just me and oldest boy ratched for a bit. Then he's going to visit his dad for a couple of hours.

Dinner with friends about 20 minutes away.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 25, 2019 01:08 PM (PkVlr)

147 "And spare me your sanctimonious lectures about religion being responsible for so much death and destruction in human history..."


___________


Yeah, add up all the usual Christian bogeymen: the Crusades, the Inquisition, various and sundry European wars that were supposedly religious, take all of 'em. They don't even equal the deaths caused by WWI. Then look at the toll of leftist ideology of the 20th century aaaaannnnd........


Fvck anyone who says that.


Oh, and Merry Christmas!

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 25, 2019 01:13 PM (c8poN)

148 When we were in the military and far from home we would do a Christmas Eve buffet for everyone stuck away from their families. After husband got out we continued that with our family and friends who couldn't get home or who needed a break. We had a huge spread, house decorated and it was lots of fun. Very happy memories.

Posted by: Abby at December 25, 2019 01:18 PM (3a1P+)

149 Merry Christmas all!

Posted by: goatexchange at December 25, 2019 01:18 PM (hS9uZ)

150 A guy I know somewhat from my local pub has invited me over for Christmas evening.
So will I go, or will my introversion win out? Hmmm.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 25, 2019 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

151 Cherry tart cookies and jelly donuts are the same. They're made, but no one eats them. They're always the last ones left. Anything with chocolate is eaten first. Those who don't want the chocolate will take anything that's not the cherry tart or jelly. All the chocolate are eaten first, but when someone wants more they'll take anything that's not the cherry tart or jelly. The cherry tart and jelly donuts are only eaten because they're the only thing left, having sitting there for hours, until finally someone who wants the giddy of eating a cookie or donut is desperate enough the cherry tart or jelly will do.

Posted by: hadsil at December 25, 2019 01:21 PM (Wdt2K)

152 So will I go, or will my introversion win out? Hmmm.

Also got one. My introversion wins.

Posted by: t-bird at December 25, 2019 01:21 PM (IMdOQ)

153 Joe Biden family Xmas card

No Hunter

no Caroline, who was busted 2 years ago for for using stolen credit card to buy 110K of stuff from a NYC drugstore

Probably drugs

Got off with 2 years probation and restitution

I would try this if your name aint Biden

Mrs. Redacted's niece just finished a 3 yr stint in TX for basically the same thing and a lot less dollars

Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 01:24 PM (rpxSz)

154 Dear Horde:
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
E H O L
R R L
R I
Y S
T
M
A
S

Posted by: phone of kari at December 25, 2019 01:24 PM (8IQhD)

155 Waiting for Christmas dinner, fruit and vegetables for appetizers, and coffee

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:25 PM (YJxi7)

156 17
I made bourbon brownies to give away a few days ago...

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 25, 2019 11:38 AM (G546f)


Are there any left? 'Cause I can be there in, like, fifteen or twenty minutes...wherever you are!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at December 25, 2019 01:25 PM (YqED9)

157 Haha well that didnt work, but I love you all and hope you're feeling the spirit

Posted by: phone of kari at December 25, 2019 01:25 PM (8IQhD)

158 Merry Christmas everyone, haven't had much to say lately but still check in here every day, sometimes several times a day, to see what the Horde is up to, and you don't disappoint! Hope you are all well. Sunny and 60 degrees today in central Illinois -- if we had a backyard and a grill I would have considered an Aussie-style Christmas cookout with some shrimp on the barbie :-)

Posted by: Secret Square at December 25, 2019 01:26 PM (9WuX0)

159 (Tips cap)

Merry Christmas Anna Puma, Ma'am (Keeping dagger in mind)

Posted by: JT at December 25, 2019 01:26 PM (arJlL)

160 150 A guy I know somewhat from my local pub has invited me over for Christmas evening.
So will I go, or will my introversion win out? Hmmm.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 25, 2019 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

Why not? It's good to have a buddy or two.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:26 PM (xqwDY)

161 Merry Christmas Kari !

Posted by: JT at December 25, 2019 01:27 PM (arJlL)

162 Merry Christmas cfo mom !

Posted by: JT at December 25, 2019 01:27 PM (arJlL)

163 It's a balmy 36 and overcast here.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:28 PM (MTxDQ)

164 Wandered into kitchen and steaming pot was going off, its a instant pot with a ham. So now I see what a instant pot is.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:28 PM (YJxi7)

165 163 It's a balmy 36 and overcast here.
Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:28 PM (MTxDQ)

76 and sunny here!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:29 PM (xqwDY)

166 Cfo mom sounds like you two celebrated festivus properly with the airing of grievances. Did you follow up with feats of strength?
Merry Christmas to everyone and may peace and prosperity be yours in the New Year.
75 degrees here on this beautiful sunny day.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at December 25, 2019 01:30 PM (D0jOF)

167 150 A guy I know somewhat from my local pub has invited me over for Christmas evening.
So will I go, or will my introversion win out? Hmmm.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 25, 2019 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)

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You can never go wrong with introversion.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 25, 2019 01:33 PM (XVuno)

168 Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:29 PM (xqwDY)

Well, you're just the ray of sunshine I needed today.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:33 PM (MTxDQ)

169 76 and sunny here!

75 degrees here on this beautiful sunny day.



You people make me sick

Posted by: REDACTED at December 25, 2019 01:34 PM (rpxSz)

170 168 Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:29 PM (xqwDY)

Well, you're just the ray of sunshine I needed today.
Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:33 PM (MTxDQ)

Talk to Sefton, he's got the weather machine hookup.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:34 PM (xqwDY)

171 Mid 40s, it did snow at my aunt and uncles in Alaska last night, makes me wonder if tcn is close near them.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:34 PM (YJxi7)

172 Merry Christmas Insom!

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:35 PM (MTxDQ)

173 172 Merry Christmas Insom!
Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:35 PM (MTxDQ)

Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:36 PM (xqwDY)

174 Weather or time machine?
Wonder which I would rather have.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:36 PM (YJxi7)

175
Just about everything you've heard about the Inquisition is wrong. The number of deaths over several centuries isn't much different than a day's worth of the French Revolution.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 25, 2019 01:36 PM (7rVsF)

176 174 Weather or time machine?
Wonder which I would rather have.
Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:36 PM (YJxi7)

Time machine, hands down.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:37 PM (xqwDY)

177 175
Just about everything you've heard about the Inquisition is wrong. The number of deaths over several centuries isn't much different than a day's worth of the French Revolution.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 25, 2019 01:36 PM (7rVsF)

I wasn't expecting that.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 25, 2019 01:38 PM (xqwDY)

178 Just about everything you've heard about the Inquisition is wrong

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The Inquisition serves its purpose as a bottomless well of fodder for those who want to point out how Christianity is violent and intolerant. The truth really doesn't matter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 25, 2019 01:38 PM (XVuno)

179 Too bad you didn't have a shotgun.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 25, 2019 12:55 PM


Concur. My word as a Biden.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 25, 2019 01:38 PM (DMUuz)

180 Take the time machine Skip. You can find out winning Lotto numbers, go back in time, get the jackpot and enough bucks to constantly move to wherever the weather suits you.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 25, 2019 01:40 PM (RfzVr)

181 >> Cherry tart cookies and jelly donuts are the same. They're made, but no one eats them.


Linzer Tarts kick ass, yo. They don't last long around me.

Posted by: garrett at December 25, 2019 01:41 PM (WCL8/)

182 Keep hinting for Ace to send a lotto number to us

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:43 PM (YJxi7)

183 Down the rabbit hole. Was looking at NORAD, over 7 billion presents delivered. Then I clicked on some southern islands in the pacific, and lo and behold, it was Palmyra. Vincent Bugliosi wrote an excellent book about a story on that island.

'fraid to crawl down the hole any further.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:44 PM (MTxDQ)

184 Prager talks about a study done on the inquisition that its not near what is claimed against it. Not that is was good for its victims just not the numbers often stated.

Posted by: Skip at December 25, 2019 01:45 PM (YJxi7)

185
Christophobic hate bigots* rail about the Church suppressing Galileo for proposing heliocentrism. No one knows about Nikolai Vavilov, starved to death in the Gulag for challenging the dogma of Lysenkoism.

(* religion haters should be distinguished from atheists)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 25, 2019 01:45 PM (7rVsF)

186 My time machine broke.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 25, 2019 01:47 PM (lu7HT)

187
Keep hinting for Ace to send a lotto number to us
Posted by: Skip


8

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 25, 2019 01:47 PM (7rVsF)

188 >>>Palmyra. Vincent Bugliosi wrote an excellent book about a story on that island.

'fraid to crawl down the hole any further.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:44 PM (MTxDQ)


That's where James Bond recovered the Tears of Allah.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 25, 2019 01:48 PM (WkaWu)

189 (* religion haters should be distinguished from atheists)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at

THIS, there are a few very vocal "freedom from religion" freaks here. I may detest those above all others.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:49 PM (MTxDQ)

190 I wonder how Weasel's beach party is going. I know he was so looking forward to it.

Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted by: Ronster at December 25, 2019 01:49 PM (hzxz4)

191 It won't be necessary to clip Weasel Dogs nails for a while.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 25, 2019 01:51 PM (WkaWu)

192 Nood.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2019 01:52 PM (MTxDQ)

193 Keep hinting for Ace to send a lotto number to us

Posted by: Skip

22

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 25, 2019 01:54 PM (Dhht7)

194 One x squeeze and first thing out of her mouth after I asked her name:

Fight me.

Won't say what the second thing she said. I'm a gentleman.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 25, 2019 01:56 PM (lu7HT)

195 It is not just in old medieval history that Christianity has greatly influenced music. the American Black Church is called "the great wellspring of American music" Without that, no blues, no rock, no pop, no jazz, none of that music that has dominated the entire world for generations.

Posted by: SanityClause at December 25, 2019 03:45 PM (5gz4z)

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