The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

We live in wondrous times, and in spite of the political and social stupidity of a large swath of people across the globe, our lives are better than ever, or at least we have the possibility of that condition.

Science has given us medical breakthroughs that are unbelievable; robotic surgery, gene-therapy for previously deadly cancers, the ability to save premature babies, new wonder drugs and thousands of other marvels that were unimaginable even a generation or two ago.

The technology of communication is quite simply magical! We have computers in our pockets (some people even use them as phones!) and our cars and in our refrigerators (yeah...I don't like that one) that are connected to a world-wide network that is seamless except for political manipulation.

Our transportation is more reliable and safer than ever, and unbelievably inexpensive. What once was an expensive cross-country flight in the 1980s has dropped in price by 50% when adjusted for inflation. Fuel to run our cars and heat our homes is abundant and cleaner than ever. Our environment is much, much cleaner than it was when we were kids, in spite of the caterwauling from the lunatic left.

Food is safe and abundant and better than ever, courtesy of GMOs and the miracle of free markets. We could feed the world with ease were it not for those aforementioned political manipulations.

We are left with complaining (correctly) that some consumer products are built without the legendary American robustness that our parents came to expect. Wow...life is pretty good if we need to complain about our dishwashers and washing machines and refrigerators (that make ice for us while we sleep!).

No...my name isn't Pollyanna Brown's Dildo. Our job is to protect the fruits of 2,500 years of Western culture from the depredations of those pesky political manipulations, and that means progressivism or socialism or leftism or whatever convenient shorthand we use to describe the pinch-faced scolds of the Left, who never saw a freedom they didn't want curtailed or a new technology they didn't want to control and tax or a dissident they didn't want imprisoned, or worse.

It's an existential fight, but it isn't a new one. We have been in this battle for a very long time, and it will still be going long after we are gone, so....enjoy the festivities of an American Christmas week and be confident that we can get back to running around with our hair on fire...but after New Years!

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Under nood!

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:05 AM (Jk+3L)

2 Corgis called.

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:06 AM (Jk+3L)

3 And Pollyanna Dildo is in the house!

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:06 AM (Jk+3L)

4 Or not.

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

5 A strange way to get willowed.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (1DGZA)

6 Dildo, are you still here?

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

7 Wait, whut?

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:08 AM (9VeU0)

8 It's the Christmas Eve Primate!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 24, 2019 11:08 AM (Dc2NZ)

9 The House couldn't ban Nood Lowerers.

Posted by: Allie at December 24, 2019 11:08 AM (sm6Pk)

10 3 And Pollyanna Dildo is in the house!
Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:06 AM (Jk+3L)

The "Glad Game" just took on a whole new meaning.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 24, 2019 11:08 AM (xqwDY)

11 6 Dildo, are you still here?
Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

I ask that question a lot.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 24, 2019 11:08 AM (9VeU0)

12 If we post here...do we end up in thread purgatory?

Posted by: BignJames at December 24, 2019 11:09 AM (X/Pw5)

13 Was beginning to think I'd gotten lost in the undernood world.

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:09 AM (Jk+3L)

14 Very well said! One the many reasons I love this place.

Merry Christmas Horde!

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 24, 2019 11:09 AM (ayFCE)

15 Sixteen!

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at December 24, 2019 11:09 AM (BwZad)

16 Does this have anything to do with the time machine that ace definitely doesn't have?

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:09 AM (9VeU0)

17 Undernood is now overnood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 24, 2019 11:09 AM (ayFCE)

18 Hey Nineteen

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 24, 2019 11:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

19 I see this is now above the mid morning art thread.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 24, 2019 11:10 AM (1DGZA)

20 So close.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 24, 2019 11:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

21 I went down south for to see my Sal
Singing Pollyanna Dildo all the day

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:11 AM (9VeU0)

22

Singing Pollyanna Dildo all the day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2019 11:12 AM (aKsyK)

23 Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

Yup! What's up?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2019 11:12 AM (wYseH)

24

LaWanda Page and Jimmy Page! oh wait..no pictures today

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 24, 2019 11:12 AM (wc9Q6)

25 It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. All Trump's fault.

Posted by: davidt at December 24, 2019 11:12 AM (l3+k2)

26 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 24, 2019 11:12 AM (arJlL)

27 >>>We live in wondrous times

Yes, we do!

Posted by: m at December 24, 2019 11:13 AM (ghFVE)

28
Dildo, are you still here?
Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

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Happens to me all the time.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 24, 2019 11:13 AM (8XRCm)

29 we can get back to running around with our hair on fire...but after New Years!

So what are we supposed to do for fun in the meantime?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 24, 2019 11:13 AM (BiNEL)

30 Good observations, CBD.

I'll add this:

Thanks to nuclear weapons, we are in the longest peace between Great Powers since the Treaty of Westphalia ended the 30 Years War.

Yesterday, I was playing a game in which the ship I was in was one of the units in the game. Focuses your mind on how bloody a Great Powers War would be. We dodged that bullet, thanks to many people serving as deterrence, and nuclear weapons.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 24, 2019 11:13 AM (u82oZ)

31 I have a remote that turns on the Christmas tree lights. Because I'm too lazy to unplug them.

Thank you Capitalism !

Posted by: jsg at December 24, 2019 11:14 AM (bYHM+)

32 But Trump is shredding the Constitution! How can I enjoy Christmas?!

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 24, 2019 11:14 AM (H8QX8)

33 Speaking of abundant food, this past fall has expanded the blaster waistline horizons.

So I am cold turkeying on carbs. Which is especially difficult at Christmas time. And those bastards who brought the donuts into work, well, you'll burn in Hell.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:14 AM (9VeU0)

34 Refers are all made kin Mexico now. Whereas they used to last forever now you are lucky you can get 5 years out of one, assuming you get one that works in the first place.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (mpXpK)

35 Thanks to nuclear weapons, we are in the longest
peace between Great Powers since the Treaty of Westphalia ended the 30
Years War.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 24, 2019 11:13 AM (u82oZ)

Good point!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (wYseH)

36 I think this rant disregards how things are rotting from within as a result of outsourced and imported code.

That's not a minor issue; a lot of people have already died and untold millions of dollars have been wasted, and it will only get worse.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (67XdO)

37 Dildo, are you still here?
Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

Are you there, Dildo? It's me, Margaret.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 24, 2019 11:16 AM (t+qrx)

38 Yes, all those things are lovely. Yes, we should keep them and we will all miss any of them being gone, let alone all. And all of them require safe, stable societies which are not divided by civil war.

The true rulers of this country would rather see it reduced to ash than give up their power and control, and they have weapons which allow them to make that happen. So one can't be too optimistic about things.

Posted by: trev006 at December 24, 2019 11:16 AM (aDkrc)

39 On behalf of all AoSHQ lurkers, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, All!

Posted by: socalcon at December 24, 2019 11:16 AM (Roy2Z)

40 CBD, thank you for the daily art thread, the food thread, your punk monkey rant, and your other rants. We are blessed to have you post so we can play with our grey-boxed friends.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (u82oZ)

41 Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (mpXpK)

How dare you complain about the refrigeration that is killing the planet?

Posted by: Greata Thunderberg knows that EDKH at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (BiNEL)

42 At home, doing stuff while TCM is showing "Period of Adjustment" - one of my favorite Tennessee Williams movies. Appropriately for a Christmas movie, it actually has a happy ending for the four main characters. It's also obviously a play turned into a film, but that's why the dialogue is so superb.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (V2Yro)

43 Plying hide and seek with Dildo, horde at its bestest.

Posted by: runner at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (Itc1k)

44
sok

Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (8XRCm)

45 Yup! What's up?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2019 11:12 AM (wYseH)

Good rant. Thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:18 AM (Jk+3L)

46 From last thread:
328
Biden Jr is in Family Court, evidently nobody has told him about the 'male in family court'.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:10 AM (mpXpK)

322
RE child support. It doesn't matter whether the father is employed or
not, he still has to pay the court ordered child support. Ask my
ex-deadbeat SIL who went to jail for non-payment.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:18 AM (mpXpK)

47 41 Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (mpXpK)

How dare you complain about the refrigeration that is killing the planet?
Posted by: Greata Thunderberg knows that EDKH at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (BiNEL)

clearly signs of the coming Ice Age!

Posted by: The 70's at December 24, 2019 11:18 AM (NgKpN)

48 I think this rant disregards how things are rotting from within as a result of outsourced and imported code.

That's not a minor issue; a lot of people have already died and untold millions of dollars have been wasted, and it will only get worse.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (67XdO)

Bah! Humbug! Piss in your own punch!

Posted by: BignJames at December 24, 2019 11:19 AM (X/Pw5)

49 Plying??? Playing...*gonna blame that on smartphone....

Posted by: runner at December 24, 2019 11:19 AM (Itc1k)

50 The true rulers of this country would rather see it reduced to ash than give up their power and control...
Posted by: trev006 at December 24, 2019 11:16 AM (aDkrc)

This is what Trump has exposed more than anything: the cold-hearted anti-Nationalism of our rulers. Patriots are like hen's teeth.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 24, 2019 11:19 AM (H8QX8)

51 Thanks, CBD.

Really needed that.

Posted by: SMH at December 24, 2019 11:20 AM (RU4sa)

52 Good rant. Thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at December 24, 2019 11:18 AM (Jk+3L)

My pleasure!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2019 11:20 AM (wYseH)

53 Merry Christmas to monkeys, apes and Horde members everywhere!

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at December 24, 2019 11:21 AM (PYdI2)

54 Goodness, look at the time! Gonna wish everyone a Merry Hanukkah and Happy Xmas. Cheers!

Posted by: runner at December 24, 2019 11:21 AM (Itc1k)

55 Thank you CBD, for your words, recipes and insight. I pray for a joyful Hanukkah for you and yours, and a blessed year in 2020.

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:22 AM (mFoNl)

56 Merry Christmas, Biden family! I understand Hunter and his new bride have a baby on the way.

That'll make five little Hunter chilluns.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:22 AM (ptqGC)

57 That's not a minor issue; a lot of people have already died and untold millions of dollars have been wasted, and it will only get worse.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 24, 2019 11:15 AM (67XdO)

The good news is that even the incompetent CEOs get really sweet golden coated platinum parachutes (link to Barrons about Boeing):

shorturl.at/ctAUW

Wonder how many H1B coders wrote that Boeing software?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 24, 2019 11:22 AM (BiNEL)

58
On fridges.

Fridges now use 410 for refridgerant. It runs about 15-20% higher pressures than R22, making it harder on condensors and compressors.

Also.... to help meet the Federally mandated efficiency requirements, new fridges never decompress so as to avoid the ramp up in refridgerant compression. So..... not only is the operating pressure 15-20% higher, components must START under full pressure, making it even harder on components.

Same is true on vehicle and home AC's.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:22 AM (8XRCm)

59 If you doubt things are getting better, read Steven Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Viiolence Has Declined. It's a long read, but well worth the time.

Posted by: pep at December 24, 2019 11:22 AM (T6t7i)

60 The good news is that even the incompetent CEOs get really sweet golden coated platinum parachutes (link to Barrons about Boeing):

This always pisses me off.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 24, 2019 11:23 AM (xqwDY)

61 Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas to the horde! And blessings to us all in the MAGA New Year.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:23 AM (ptqGC)

62 At home, doing stuff while TCM is showing "Period of Adjustment" -
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (V2Yro)

Thanks. That movie completely escaped me.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 24, 2019 11:23 AM (H8QX8)

63 {{{{SMH}}}}

Things aren't better, but I am getting through them with a lot more hope because of your words. I hope your Christmas is as amazing as you are.

Merry Christmas Horde. You are an amazing gift.

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:23 AM (mFoNl)

64 I did the I'm thankful for nukes at Thanksgiving once. Didn't go over well.

Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:24 AM (bk3t/)

65 Merry Christmas Horde. You are an amazing gift.

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:23 AM (mFoNl)

As are you. {{{hugs}}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:24 AM (ptqGC)

66 At home, doing stuff while TCM is showing "Period of Adjustment" - one of my favorite Tennessee Williams movies. Appropriately for a Christmas movie, it actually has a happy ending for the four main characters. It's also obviously a play turned into a film, but that's why the dialogue is so superb.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2019 11:17 AM (V2Yro)

Christmas movie recommendation, if one is tired of the usual:

Remember the Night, starring Barbara Stanwyck and Fred McMurray. Made in 1940, a remarkably mature and touching story of how a shoplifter and prosecutor cross paths for the holidays.

Once you get past the contrivance that brings them together, it's a story filled with realism and depth, often due to what it doesn't say, as much as what it does.

Needless to say, they don't make 'em like that anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:24 AM (hku12)

67 63 {{{{SMH}}}}

Things aren't better, but I am getting through them with a lot more hope because of your words. I hope your Christmas is as amazing as you are.

Merry Christmas Horde. You are an amazing gift.
Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:23 AM (mFoNl)

For the most part. {{{Moki}}}

Posted by: Insomniac at December 24, 2019 11:24 AM (xqwDY)

68 Shopping awaits.

For Ace, all CoBs, commenters, and the silent AoSHQ lurkers, Merry Christmas to all!

This is a very special place; our high signal to noise ratio smart military blog. We have a witty time. Just for the Halibut.

You collectively keep me sorta sane, informed, and amused. We have a joyous time when we are in the AoSHQ flow.

As always, head on a swivel and have a Mattis Plan. May Santa give you your heart's desire. Offer void for celebrity assignation wishes, and in CA, OR, WA and CO. Those are no fun allowed states.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 24, 2019 11:25 AM (u82oZ)

69 *Smiles at Moki*

Not doing anything special, maybe go out for dinner.

Still praying for you and yours.

Posted by: SMH at December 24, 2019 11:25 AM (RU4sa)

70 18 Hey Nineteen
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 24, 2019 11:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

cute

Posted by: m at December 24, 2019 11:25 AM (ghFVE)

71 Welp, it just rained again. The backyard is a lake. And the outdoor Christmas lights can't come on.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:25 AM (ptqGC)

72 Jane, how is your foot? Your hubby? D'oh boy? I hope this Christmas is both restful and joyful for you, and that extended family comes to their senses and shower you with love!

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:26 AM (mFoNl)

73 Back to Hunter Biden - I don't know Arkansas law on child support but they have a support calculator, likely they have a formula that is based on the incomes of both parents, and percentage of custody.

With Biden at zero income (supposedly) he is going to take the position that he has to pay no child support - or probably there is some minimum like $200 a month that a non-custodial parent would pay without an income.

Likely the judge is going to be hot at someone living in the Hollywood Hills claiming that. But, the judge may also be a deep-dyed Democrat and order no child support, and the child will become collateral damage in the War on Trump.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:26 AM (9VeU0)

74 Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year, Horde!

Keep a couple of things in mind during this festive time:

1) Donald Trump will be re elected in 2020 by a larger margin of victory than his first election.

2) Take the opportunity to laugh at a Liberal. They are amusing. Only clowns could produce the circus they have going.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 24, 2019 11:26 AM (jp0Bv)

75 CBD-

That rant is probably more of an exhortation than a diatribe. Nice change of pace!

/Muldoon

Posted by: Muldoon at December 24, 2019 11:27 AM (m45I2)

76

Science has given us medical breakthroughs that are unbelievable;
robotic surgery, gene-therapy for previously deadly cancers, the ability
to save premature babies, new wonder drugs and thousands of other
marvels that were unimaginable even a generation or two ago.

The technology of communication is quite simply magical! We have
computers in our pockets (some people even use them as phones!) and our
cars and in our refrigerators (yeah...I don't like that one) that are
connected to a world-wide network that is seamless except for political
manipulation.

This is one of the few dumb things Mark Steyn ever said. He claimed that the era of big improvements is over and that we no longer make big leaps like we did with cars and airplanes and electricity. That's just flat wrong. Progress has improved exponentially.

As one example, we are looking at the possibility of disease-free immortality in the not to distant future (assuming you think that's a good thing).

Posted by: pep at December 24, 2019 11:27 AM (T6t7i)

77 Hrothgar, the neon deer head Christmas paper is from Walmart.

I'm going to send you a picture in a second.

Posted by: bluebell at December 24, 2019 11:28 AM (/669Q)

78 As one example, we are looking at the possibility of disease-free immortality in the not to distant future (assuming you think that's a good thing).
Posted by: pep at December 24, 2019 11:27 AM (T6t7i)

First read that as "disease-free immorality," in which case, sign me up.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 24, 2019 11:28 AM (xqwDY)

79
Hrothgar, the neon deer head Christmas paper is from Walmart.

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Where else would you get that???

Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:29 AM (8XRCm)

80 {{Insom}}} You sweet thing. Link arms with me and we will go forward into 2020 like a phalanx.

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:30 AM (mFoNl)

81 Where else would you get that???
Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:29 AM (8XRCm)
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Cabela's?

Posted by: bluebell at December 24, 2019 11:30 AM (/669Q)

82 At some point I fear this fight has to go from existential and academic to physical in order to protect what is good and true from what is evil and twisted.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:30 AM (KZzsI)

83 Christmas wrenches jingle bells

https://youtu.be/1SE0t2cS65A

Posted by: jsg at December 24, 2019 11:31 AM (bYHM+)

84 we are looking at the possibility of disease-free immortality in the not to distant future

Anyone who promotes this idea isn't aware of all the awful side effects and unintented drawbacks of cures and treatments. Yes, you don't have those itchy, watery eyes, but you have tuberculosis.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:31 AM (KZzsI)

85 When we get to the Slush Age, let me know.

Posted by: klaftern at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (RuIsu)

86 Moki, what's up? Things not going well?

Posted by: bluebell at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (/669Q)

87 " we are looking at the possibility of disease-free immortality in the not to distant future"

I certainly hope not.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (H8QX8)

88 80 {{Insom}}} You sweet thing. Link arms with me and we will go forward into 2020 like a phalanx.

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:30 AM (mFoNl)

Sounds good to me. *fetches sword and shield*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (xqwDY)

89 RE child support. It doesn't matter whether the father is employed or not, he still has to pay the court ordered child support. Ask my ex-deadbeat SIL who went to jail for non-payment.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

Vic yes and no. They will set the support amount based on income. Once it is set, you've got to pay whether you have the money or not. Being unemployed is no excuse.

Now, you can go back to court and argue for a new amount if you lose your job but 1 you can't do that until you have lost your job, and then you have to get into court, and there is no retroactivity - so if it takes months to get into court, then you are stuck.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (9VeU0)

90 They will set the support amount based on income. Once it is set, you've got to pay whether you have the money or not. Being unemployed is no excuse.

Just like Gentleman Jim in Goodfellas with the wig guy. F you, pay me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:33 AM (KZzsI)

91 I think that to live forever down here with a mostly failing body is a fate worse that death without the promise of an afterlife. I'll accept the gift that's been offered me and trade in this earthly husk for a new one that will TRULY live forever without breaking down.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 24, 2019 11:33 AM (flINI)

92 Jane, how is your foot? Your hubby? D'oh boy? I hope
this Christmas is both restful and joyful for you, and that extended
family comes to their senses and shower you with love!

Posted by: Moki at December 24, 2019 11:26 AM (mFoNl)

Doing okay. Heading up to in-laws' Festivus tomorrow for one day and night.

How are you and your family doing?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:33 AM (ptqGC)

93 A little Christmas music for y'all:

youtube.com/watch?v=BDiXPx2OqPI

Posted by: Insomniac at December 24, 2019 11:34 AM (xqwDY)

94 Yes CBD we do live in wondrous times. However I think that technology has taken something from us and that is the ability to communicate.

I truly think we have lost something when people would rather tear someone down because they do not think or feel like they do and behind the anonymity of the internet say things to people that I bet they would not say to the person face to face.

That's my 2 cents.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 24, 2019 11:36 AM (Oq/TM)

95 Now, you can go back to court and argue for a new amount if you lose your job but 1 you can't do that until you have lost your job, and then you have to get into court, and there is no retroactivity - so if it takes months to get into court, then you are stuck.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (9VeU0)

And there is interest and back penalties on unpaid child support. They'll garnish your wages, raid your bank accounts, hold your tax refunds, take away your drivers license, and any professional license you hold.

Finally, prison.

If, of course, you aren't connected to Democrat party politics. If your are, I doubt any of that happens.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:36 AM (hku12)

96 89 Vic yes and no. They will set the support amount based on income. Once
it is set, you've got to pay whether you have the money or not. Being
unemployed is no excuse.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:32 AM (9VeU0)

That's what I meant.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:37 AM (mpXpK)

97 83 Christmas wrenches jingle bells

https://youtu.be/1SE0t2cS65A
Posted by: jsg at December 24, 2019 11:31 AM (bYHM+)

It IS Christmas wrenches jingle bells.
I had assumed a typo.

Posted by: m at December 24, 2019 11:37 AM (ghFVE)

98 Here's a fun wrap-up of the "best" of The View (from Newsbusters):

https://tinyurl.com/qs4mka8

1. Conservatives don't understand socialism. (Joy Behar)

2. Could Trump's base *want* him impeached? (Whoopi)

3. More jobs are not good if at the expense of the environment. (Joy)

4. D-Day: When we fought for illegal immigrant rights. (Whoopi)

5. You'll see: Impeachment will unify the country. (Sunny Hostin)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:38 AM (ptqGC)

99
Show me the Christmas WENCHES doing jingle bells.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 24, 2019 11:38 AM (swXWo)

100 Christmas wrenches jingle bells

https://youtu.be/1SE0t2cS65A
Posted by: jsg at December 24, 2019 11:31 AM (bYHM+)

It IS Christmas wrenches jingle bells.
I had assumed a typo.
Posted by: m at December 24, 2019 11:37 AM (ghFVE)

No thanks, I'll take Christmas wenches jingle bells.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (hku12)

101 Biden Jr is in Family Court, evidently nobody has told him about the 'male in family court'.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:10 AM (mpXpK)

322

RE child support. It doesn't matter whether the father is employed or

not, he still has to pay the court ordered child support. Ask my

ex-deadbeat SIL who went to jail for non-payment.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

His excuse will be his father can't come up with any scams right now for him to make money and outside of his last name he's utterly useless.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (wc9Q6)

102 Some more Christmas Music, pure nostalgia. The Firestone Christmas albums from the 60s, all 7 discs

https://youtu.be/IXf76NAxolI

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

103 99
Show me the Christmas WENCHES doing jingle bells.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 24, 2019 11:38 AM (swXWo)

That's kbdabear (sp.?) territory.

Posted by: m at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (ghFVE)

104 1. Conservatives don't understand socialism. (Joy Behar)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:38 AM (ptqGC)

Debatable.

Know who provably doesn't understand socialism? Socialists.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (t+qrx)

105 As one example, we are looking at the possibility of disease-free immortality in the not to distant future (assuming you think that's a good thing).
Posted by: pep

*********

I think not. Life expectancy is a population statistic and preventing death early in life has a disproportionate impact on life expectancy.

I think that the great strides in public health and treatment of infectious disease early in the 1900's resulted in tremendous rise in population life expectancy as a statistical measure. Modern innovations in therapeutics have nibbled away at the margins.

But even with modern technological advances the rate of increase in life expectancy has slowed to a crawl. The effects of time, wear and tear and general aging are unavoidable, not to mention externally inflicted causes of death (homicide, accidents, etc) are part of the human condition.

While we (as a group) may live longer, and while individuals may enjoy better health in whatever lifespan they have, we will not become immortal.

Mathematically speaking there is probably an upper limit and further gains in life expectancy will be asymptotic.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 24, 2019 11:40 AM (m45I2)

106 91
I think that to live forever down here with a mostly failing body is a
fate worse that death without the promise of an afterlife. I'll accept
the gift that's been offered me and trade in this earthly husk for a new
one that will TRULY live forever without breaking down.

Posted by: Truck Monkey

Understood, but that's why the "disease-free" part is important. I think most folks, myself included, would say I'd like to live without health problems for as long as I choose, and then decide when it's time to make an exit.

Posted by: pep at December 24, 2019 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

107 Know who provably doesn't understand socialism? Socialists.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (t+qrx)

But....Joy taught public skool. She knows stuff.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:40 AM (ptqGC)

108 Wenches Jingle Bells?

https://youtu.be/69ZFRky02Ls

No I have no idea what is going on

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:41 AM (KZzsI)

109 Merry Christmas, Biden family! I understand Hunter and his new bride have a baby on the way.

That'll make five little Hunter chilluns.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:22 AM (ptqGC)

He's got one with the stripper. One on the way with the new wife. Did he have any with his brother's wife?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 24, 2019 11:41 AM (wc9Q6)

110 98: they seem sane

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 24, 2019 11:41 AM (1DGZA)

111 But....Joy taught public skool. She knows stuff.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:40 AM

But, per Ronaldus Magnus, so much of what she knows isn't so.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 24, 2019 11:41 AM (ejd/p)

112 Know who provably doesn't understand socialism? Socialists.

I had someone on twitter angrily tell me that Nazis could not have been socialist because they were racist. They have no idea what they are talking about

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM (KZzsI)

113 I was sitting here thinking it's about time for me to roll my walker down the drive-way and get the mail. ......then I remembered Trump gave them today off.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM (mpXpK)

114 He's got one with the stripper. One on the way with the new wife. Did he have any with his brother's wife?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 24, 2019 11:41 AM (wc9Q6)

Had three with his first wife.

As far as we know, he had none with Beau's widow.

Though she does have a son named Hunter....

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM (9VeU0)

115 I had someone on twitter angrily tell me that Nazis could not have been socialist because they were racist. They have no idea what they are talking about
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM

Ah, the "no true socialist Scotsman" fallacy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM (ejd/p)

116 Mathematically speaking there is probably an upper limit and further gains in life expectancy will be asymptotic.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 24, 2019 11:40 AM

There can be only one.

Posted by: Connor MacLeod at December 24, 2019 11:43 AM (OMsf+)

117
"Joy" and "Whoopie"

Ill take "What are the worlds worst first name misnomers" for a thousand Alex.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:43 AM (8XRCm)

118 Hunter is one of those Soap Opera names. Ridge Canaway. Hunter Strangways.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:43 AM (KZzsI)

119 Society is so far along now, we have to FIND things to fuss over. I was on my way over to a distant coffee house (where I live, ALL things are distant) and was treated to an ad for something that makes the act of taking a dump, well, discreet, in an olfactory sense. (I say something because I have a low tolerance for ads so I did not hear the whole thing.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 24, 2019 11:43 AM (kFLDt)

120 However I think that technology has taken something from us and that is the ability to communicate.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 24, 2019 11:36 AM (Oq/TM)

Agreed. The unintended consequences of change has always been the problem. But it is better to have the technology and have to learn to deal with its consequences!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2019 11:43 AM (wYseH)

121 But even with modern technological advances the rate of increase
in life expectancy has slowed to a crawl. The effects of time, wear and
tear and general aging are unavoidable, not to mention externally
inflicted causes of death (homicide, accidents, etc) are part of the
human condition.

While we (as a group) may live longer, and while individuals may
enjoy better health in whatever lifespan they have, we will not become
immortal.

Mathematically speaking there is probably an upper limit and further gains in life expectancy will be asymptotic.
That's the big looming development. Our bodies are physical entities composed of atoms and molecules. These can be swapped out.

Thus, when we get to the age of relengthening telomeres, growing replacement organs and joints, etc., we will in effect become immortal. Again, whether that's a good thing is certainly up for debate.

Posted by: pep at December 24, 2019 11:43 AM (T6t7i)

122 Nobody on the left and very few of the public understand "real" socialism" as it was defined by the guy who invented it and communism.

As used by today's Democrats socialism is really communism.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (mpXpK)

123 But....Joy taught public skool.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:40 AM (ptqGC)

Those poor children.

Her voice sounds like the adults from the Peanuts cartoons sodomizing a goose in a running garbage disposal.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (t+qrx)

124 Snoopy and the Red Baron, 1966. That's some modern Christmas music!

Posted by: klaftern at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (RuIsu)

125 I just saw a story that the best Christmas song evah -- Fairytale of New York by the Pogues with Kristy McColl -- had been banned. It turns out only one BBC presenter is banning it from his own show.

I like his turn of phrase, though. It's an "offensive pile of downmarket chav bilge".

I don't even know what that means.

You're a bum you're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead with that drip in that bed

You scumbag you maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
Happy Christmas you arse I pray God it's our last

This song has gone from being obscure (nobody ever heard of the Pogues) to a beloved classic to being controversial. Shane McGowan defends the word "faggot" by saying that it's the character saying it and it's what she would say back in the 80s, but people are prissy little killjoys.

The boys from the NYPD choir are singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out for Christmas today!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (gd9RK)

126
I had someone on twitter angrily tell me that Nazis could not have been socialist because they were racist. They have no idea what they are talking about
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM

------

"National Socialist German Workers Party"

History is hard and stuff.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (8XRCm)

127 Conservatives don't understand how anyone beyond a mental age of 12 buys into socialism.

Posted by: ... at December 24, 2019 11:45 AM (ZfonR)

128 Insty likes to say aging is a disease.

Even "disease free" the human body is destroyed by time.

We need telomere repair/preservation

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:45 AM (9VeU0)

129 Hunter Biden paying $50 in child support to a gorgeous stripper would be political fireworks, he'd probably spent more on each dance.

Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:45 AM (bk3t/)

130 Thus, when we get to the age of relengthening telomeres, growing
replacement organs and joints, etc., we will in effect become immortal.
Again, whether that's a good thing is certainly up for debate.

It's the only way I'll be able to retire.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at December 24, 2019 11:45 AM (xkSJa)

131 Well, I've got to go out one last time. Have to brave Home Depot. I picked up paint samples to touch up some walls, and one of the samples is the wrong color. I even checked it in the store, after there was a mix up. Somehow the mix up ended up coming home with me. *sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 24, 2019 11:46 AM (ptqGC)

132 We need telomere repair/preservation

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:45 AM (9VeU0)

Good luck with that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2019 11:46 AM (wYseH)

133 When I study the past and how we lived, the conveniences of modern day are almost inconceivable. Just turn a tap and hot water pours out. If your house is cold, move a lever slightly for more heat. Want information on almost anything? Pick up that phone and its all waiting for you. Hungry? Open up a can or grab something out of the box that keeps it constantly cooled and perserved.

Just making hot water was like an hour's hard labor in years past.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:46 AM (KZzsI)

134 We went from:

Calling the president a socialist is a racist code word

to

Socialism is just The Best

in how long?

Posted by: ... at December 24, 2019 11:46 AM (ZfonR)

135 Some more Christmas Music, pure nostalgia. The Firestone Christmas albums from the 60s, all 7 discs

https://youtu.be/IXf76NAxolI
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

Volume 5 is banned in the US. I was trying to figure out which ones we had when I was a kid, but none of what I heard sounded familiar. Maybe we had volume 5.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:47 AM (hku12)

136 My kids are home from both coasts. Lots to be grateful for!

Posted by: Regular joe at December 24, 2019 11:47 AM (6/uwW)

137 "National Socialist German Workers Party"

the usual response to that is to note that North Korea claims to be Democratic (since they're too young to know about East Germany).

But when you give them the speeches, monuments, policies, etc they veer off into no true scotsman territory or redefining Socialism into what they think it is.

Like the guy who insisted Nazis could not be socialist because they were nationalist instead of globalist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

138 Our job is to protect the fruits of 2,500 years of Western culture from the depredations of those pesky political manipulations

A large portion of our political problems arises from the fact that many people consider America's affluence to be a given - that no matter what the country does, that young Leftists will still be able to have smartphones, computer laptops, and take European trips; and the "poor" will still have abundant food, indoor plumbing, and wide-screen TV's.

They can't conceive that anything they support politically might take all that away.

One analogy is Argentina, which was as rich as a European country in 1900, and was turned into a Third-World basket case under the socialist policies of Juan and Evita Peron.

Cuba was the richest country in Latin America, until Castro took over.

It can happen here, if we let it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 24, 2019 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

139 125 I just saw a story that the best Christmas song evah -- Fairytale of New York by the Pogues with Kristy McColl -- had been banned. It turns out only one BBC presenter is banning it from his own show.

I like his turn of phrase, though. It's an "offensive pile of downmarket chav bilge".

I don't even know what that means.

You're a bum you're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead with that drip in that bed

You scumbag you maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
Happy Christmas you arse I pray God it's our last

This song has gone from being obscure (nobody ever heard of the Pogues) to a beloved classic to being controversial. Shane McGowan defends the word "faggot" by saying that it's the character saying it and it's what she would say back in the 80s, but people are prissy little killjoys.

The boys from the NYPD choir are singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out for Christmas today!
Posted by: Bandersnatch,

The BBC tried to ban that song a decade ago but were resisted by normal people. I see they are trying again. The Pogues are GREAT by the way. Love em'. A Fairytale of New York is a classic.

https://youtu.be/j9jbdgZidu8

"It was Christmas Eve, babe, in the drunk tank.."

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 24, 2019 11:48 AM (1DGZA)

140
Snoopy and the Red Baron, 1966. That's some modern Christmas music!

Posted by: klaftern at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (RuIsu)

Hell yeah.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 24, 2019 11:49 AM (9Om/r)

141 The Pogues have some great songs

Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:49 AM (bk3t/)

142 This country actually started moving into socilasm in the 30s and by the time FDR did us a favor and died it was about 75% socialism.

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:49 AM (mpXpK)

143 Their Waltzing Mathildas is great

Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:50 AM (bk3t/)

144 This song has gone from being obscure (nobody ever heard of the Pogues) to a beloved classic to being controversial. Shane McGowan defends the word "faggot" by saying that it's the character saying it and it's what she would say back in the 80s, but people are prissy little killjoys.

The boys from the NYPD choir are singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out for Christmas today!
Posted by: Bandersnatch, at December 24, 2019 11:44 AM (gd9RK)

This is 2019. We've got to burn down free speech in order to save it.

Can't wait until they decide they have to ban all movies that aren't nice to trannies. Silence of the Lambs will be un-Oscared.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:50 AM (hku12)

145 Volume 5 is banned in the US.

Weird, I wonder why? We own all of them, I ripped them to CD a while back.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

146 Once in a hole in the ground lived ~~too many dwarves~~ a hobbit.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 24, 2019 11:50 AM (naiw0)

147 This country actually started moving into socilasm in the 30s and by the time FDR did us a favor and died it was about 75% socialism.
Posted by: Vic

Started with Teddy and the Bull Moose party, that broke the small government power base

Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:51 AM (bk3t/)

148 And if the fact that Shane McGowan isn't dead already isn't a Christmas miracle in and of itself, I don't know what is.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

149
I think that to live forever down here with a mostly failing body is a fate worse that death without the promise of an afterlife.

Zardoz

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2019 11:52 AM (aKsyK)

150 Started with Teddy and the Bull Moose party, that broke the small government power base

Not all the way broke.

Posted by: Silent Cal at December 24, 2019 11:52 AM (gd9RK)

151 I don't comment often, but thank you for this. A little shift in perspective, a look at the longer view, and the bigger picture is just what we need for these next two days. Merry Christmas. (and not in the FU sense)
JWM

Posted by: jwm at December 24, 2019 11:54 AM (Tdh/t)

152
Started with Teddy and the Bull Moose party, that broke the small government power base
Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:51 AM (bk3t/)

-------

Da Fuq???

~Woodrow Wilson

Posted by: fixerupper at December 24, 2019 11:55 AM (8XRCm)

153 Thus, when we get to the age of relengthening telomeres, growing replacement organs and joints, etc., we will in effect become immortal.

*********

Ah, but you said "in the not too distant future."

I think gene manipulation at the cellular level in multiple organs with controllable/predictable results is a long way off. And there is more to aging than just telomere length. DNA replication in human cells is and always will be susceptible to missense and nonsense codon errors. By the time these errors are detected, damage will have occurred.

And "Plug and Play" organ replacement, if even logistically possible, does not provide for replacing a broken human spirit, the will to live.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 24, 2019 11:56 AM (m45I2)

154 Or to put it differently, we won't achieve immortality in my lifetime.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 24, 2019 11:56 AM (m45I2)

155 Love the Pogues version of "Dirty Old Town".

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 24, 2019 11:56 AM (Oq/TM)

156 In any case as I noted, every wonder cure and drug tends to have nasty consequences and side effects. Every time we try to fix humans, we make things worse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:56 AM (KZzsI)

157 Or to put it differently, we won't achieve immortality in my lifetime.
Posted by: Muldoon

Thank god

Posted by: Jean at December 24, 2019 11:57 AM (bk3t/)

158 Looking at the Arkansas child support guidance charts, the minimum child support amount is $167 a month for a single child - and that is someone whose income is $500/month (or actually whose net income difference - making $500/month more than the other parent).

The maximum on the charts is with a $5000/month difference in income - and that amount is $691/month.

Baby momma's lawyer is likely arguing that he should pay an amount more than the $691/mo, which means the courts have to get involved in the determination.

What will go into that determination is also the amount of alimony and child support he is already paying - debts from the divorce from his first wife are part of his argument for why he can't pay for the stripper baby.

His divorce from his first wife would have been while he was getting paid a ton from Burisma and China and that - so he likely does have a great big alimony/child support bill there, plus he no doubt paid attorneys a shit ton of money. And he is having to pay attorney's more trying to get those amounts adjusted down.

I am not trying to make him sympathetic, but all those things are happening.

While he is sitting in a $2.5M house that he bought this year in the Hollywood Hills.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2019 11:57 AM (9VeU0)

159 Ace up

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2019 11:57 AM (mpXpK)

160 "Pollyanna Brown's Dildo"

Pegging is not for Paolo

Posted by: The Paolo at December 24, 2019 11:58 AM (XzVUd)

161 Wenches Jingle Bells?

https://youtu.be/69ZFRky02Ls

No I have no idea what is going on
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:41 AM (KZzsI)

Never let it be said Kim Jong-un doesn't know how to have fun.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2019 11:58 AM (hku12)

162 Da Fuq???

~Woodrow Wilson
Posted by: fixerupper

You were a Nancy boy bitch.

Posted by: TeddyR at December 24, 2019 11:58 AM (bk3t/)

163 The Pogues "Body of an American" was featured on The Wire for a couple of the wakes. Another great song. And whoever mentioned it above, you're right. I'm not sure how Shane MacGowan is still alive either.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 24, 2019 11:59 AM (1DGZA)

164 I saw the Pogues in 1986ish.

If I didn't already know all of the songs I wouldn't have understood a word coming out of Shane's mouth.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, getting his Irish up at December 24, 2019 11:59 AM (gd9RK)

165 Well that's nice. Circuit board out in the garage door opener. Merry Christmas to me. At least the guy had one on his truck.

Posted by: Infidel at December 24, 2019 11:59 AM (MTxDQ)

166 Dear Mr Dildo,

I'm a little late, but thank you for the El Greco. That was a nice Christmas present.

Sincerely,
Island Monster

Posted by: Caliban at December 24, 2019 11:59 AM (QE8X6)

167 Our job is to protect the fruits of 2,500 years of Western culture from the depredations of those pesky political manipulations

A large portion of our political problems arises from the fact that
many people consider America's affluence to be a given - that no matter
what the country does, that young Leftists will still be able to have
smartphones, computer laptops, and take European trips; and the "poor"
will still have abundant food, indoor plumbing, and wide-screen TV's.

They can't conceive that anything they support politically might take all that away.

One analogy is Argentina, which was as rich as a European country in
1900, and was turned into a Third-World basket case under the socialist
policies of Juan and Evita Peron.

Cuba was the richest country in Latin America, until Castro took over.

It can happen here, if we let it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 24, 2019 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

===

Or Venezuela in the 2000s. It can happen here and it can happen in the blink of an eye. Also lots of rich people are working very hard on it happening here.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 24, 2019 12:02 PM (pw+jk)

168 On the other hand, those who think we will be immortal can point to the progress made in retaining youthful looks.

Exhibit #1- Hillary Rodham Clinton before and after photos.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 24, 2019 12:04 PM (m45I2)

169 Off to Mom's.

Merry Krampmas to all the COBs and Hordelings!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 24, 2019 12:04 PM (Dc2NZ)

170 168
On the other hand, those who think we will be immortal can point to the progress made in retaining youthful looks.

Exhibit #1- Hillary Rodham Clinton before and after photos.

Posted by: Muldoon

Well sure, all technology can be used for evil.

Posted by: pep at December 24, 2019 12:05 PM (T6t7i)

171 I had someone on twitter angrily tell me that Nazis could not have been socialist because they were racist. They have no idea what they are talking about
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 24, 2019 11:42 AM

All racists are socialist.
Ultimately all socialist will be racist.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 24, 2019 12:15 PM (1g7ch)

172 Always the remarks about dildos somehow being a bad thing. I mean I do not understand the darn things but my ex wives seemed to like them a bunch. I have no idea why

Posted by: Little mike at December 24, 2019 01:15 PM (+/fO6)

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