EMT 12/14/19

So the laundry machine dies AFTER Black Friday & Cyber Monday.

I had good luck fixing the dryer last year. A little intertube research told me to check a fuse on the motor control board. Bingo, fuse is blown. Unfortunately, if fuse is blown, that means the board was blown and the motor was blown (what exactly is the purpose of that fuse? I guess it prevents a full core meltdown?) Bought a $250 motor control board second hand for 50 bucks, a new motor, and an hour of DIY later, dryer is working like a champ.

But the laundry machine was stumping me. Couldn't find the problem, so off to Lowe's I went.

Lucky me, they had extended their Cyber sale, and I was able to give me Wife 4 options in our budget.

I went ahead and got the extended warranty, because if this is anything like the last fridge I bought, I'll need it.

Everything these days breaks so easily.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

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1 Good morning Horde

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Morning again!

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:01 AM (vd8XM)

3 G'mornin' Horde !

Fixing laundry equipment isn't as bad as some things.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 06:02 AM (JwHjN)

4 Parts are crazy expensive sometimes, though.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 06:03 AM (JwHjN)

5 Happy Saturday!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:03 AM (JFO2v)

6 I should not be up this early on a Saturday. Science Olympiad competition all day.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at December 14, 2019 06:04 AM (Vf4Y7)

7 Lucky me, they had extended their Cyber sale, and I was able to give me Wife 4 options in our budget.

The repair guy that just fixed our 20 year old washer said to get one with the fewest bells and whistles.
Those are the kind that are much more prone to breaking down

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:04 AM (vd8XM)

8 I think I dutifully call the horde as well as anyone, but the EMT is the only thread I don't, unless it's not on time so unexpected.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:05 AM (ZCEU2)

9 Our washer went and tried to figure why but never came up with a solution.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:06 AM (ZCEU2)

10 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 14, 2019 06:07 AM (cknjq)

11 Our washer went and tried to figure why but never came up with a solution.
Posted by: Skip

Ours wasn't filling properly. The part that controls that is not available anymore, per the repair guy.

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

12 Taking the Boss Lady today to get a new dryer. That thing has developed a cascade of problems and she doesn't want to go down the repair path. 14 years it has lasted.

I'm under no illusion that the new will last nearly as long. Definitely getting the extended warranty with whatever she chooses.

Merry Christmas dear!

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 14, 2019 06:11 AM (cknjq)

13 Good morning Horde! Don't know why I'm up so early, but nice to see content here. We have a wholesale appliance parts supplier here in Pensacola- Macrones. I've always found them to be the best for replacement parts for DIY repairs. I think they are on the interwebs and national too.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:11 AM (neYY3)

14 Good morning all! Last full week of school for the kiddos before Christmas break. They are all bonkers as you can imagine.

Posted by: Jmel at December 14, 2019 06:13 AM (OeWgo)

15 Oops. Its Marcones.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:13 AM (neYY3)

16 Bruce that's what went on ours, it wouldn't fill. Pondered the lid switch, motors, controls, nothing seemed wrong yet out didn't work.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:14 AM (ZCEU2)

17 Hate mom's new washer. It is not one with all the bells and whistles, but supposedly "energy saving". Takes nearly an hour to do a load, and if you actually want to wash your whites in hot water you have to turn off access to the cold when it fills so that it doesnt give you a blend and make your hot wash lukewarm! Of course then you have to wait for it to fill so that you can turn the cold water back on to make sure it will finish the cycle with a cold water rinse. P.I.T.A.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 06:14 AM (Z/jzm)

18 Bruce that's what went on ours, it wouldn't fill. Pondered the lid switch, motors, controls, nothing seemed wrong yet out didn't work.
Posted by: Skip

Ours would overfill a little. Enough so when it went to spin cycle it would over flow. Some part inside isn't doing it's thing. We can use it, just not in the super large load mode.

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:17 AM (vd8XM)

19 Lucky me, they had extended their Cyber sale, and I was able to give me Wife 4 options in our budget.

I went ahead and got the extended warranty, because if this is anything like the last fridge I bought, I'll need it.

Everything these days breaks so easily.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

Guess you need a break having 4 wives.

You should have picked up three other washers.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:17 AM (HALdu)

20 I kept her older one. I know there is someone out there who can/will repair it. It's a nice, older maytag. Looks brand new, probably 20+ years old. Transmission went.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 06:18 AM (Z/jzm)

21 Speaking of things breaking easily, how about the antithesis? When I was young, you couldn't reasonably expect 100k miles on any vehicle with a motor smaller than a v8. Also, fuel economy and power was poor, typically. Nowadays they make 4 bangers in 2.0 liters and smaller, that easily go 150k plus miles, with the same power as a v6 from 20-30 years ago.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:19 AM (87EdW)

22 Boker tov from california morons.

Our house came with a dishwasher. It worked great 10 more years. Every replacement since then has lasted appx 3 years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 06:19 AM (EZebt)

23 Oops. Its Marcones.
Posted by: Farmer Bob

Thanks. That's a big outfit. It has a number of outlets.

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:19 AM (vd8XM)

24 You know what I cannot stand about new washers is that they automatically drain after a few minutes.

I used to toss a load of things in that needed soaking, let the washer fill with water then raise the lid to let it soak for a while. Now it drains after 10 minutes or so.

Hate front load machines.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:19 AM (HALdu)

25 Spokane is #3 nat. crime reports for property damage.
Daughter #1 is a resident and says police do not take reports anymore. Block watch groups are forming.

Also reports the town is overrun by hobos and city gov. no different than Seattle.

She also home schools 15 y/o at work. The mom and pop business has provided a computer workroom for employees' kids. She uses a popular program and the boy loves it. No distractions.

Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 06:20 AM (WX+x0)

26 Speaking of things breaking easily, how about the antithesis? When I was young, you couldn't reasonably expect 100k miles on any vehicle with a motor smaller than a v8. Also, fuel economy and power was poor, typically. Nowadays they make 4 bangers in 2.0 liters and smaller, that easily go 150k plus miles, with the same power as a v6 from 20-30 years ago.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:19 AM (87EdW)

Unfortunately.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:20 AM (HALdu)

27 After a power outage, the resulting surge fried the control board on the dryer. The parts were still under warranty ($150 part) but I had to pay the $75 service call. A few years later, same scenario. Power outage (trees fall in a storm and take out a transformer) then surge. That time it took out the control board on both the washer and the dryer. So I get the boards online and replace them myself.

Ever since then, I keep the circuits to the washer and dryer open when not in use.

Posted by: JAS at December 14, 2019 06:21 AM (DBGf/)

28 26- car salesman?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:21 AM (87EdW)

29 today is 2 year anniversary of net neutrality. Blood running curb deep here in Houston.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:22 AM (JFO2v)

30 Hiya Mrs. Leggy !

Posted by: JT at December 14, 2019 06:22 AM (arJlL)

31 Getting use to but hate new washer, sounds like it it turning off and on as it's going and much more noise than old one. But does seem to work fine.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:23 AM (ZCEU2)

32 I've been looking for a new (used) car or truck. The KIA has stick shift, and has to go because of The Knee and The Hip. Dealers and individuals are proud to advertise a vehicle with "only" 150,000 miles on it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:27 AM (C1Lsn)

33 Most appliances are crap. Brand new washer 4 years ago. Replaced 2 mother boards while under warranty. After warranty expired put up with the crap operation for another 3 years. Had to reboot it by unplugging it every so often.
Hubby finally tired of my bitching about it. Replaced it this Spring with the least computerized washer we could find. And one with an agitator. Works great.
Of course it took me a couple months to figure out that the installers reversed the water supply lines.
morons!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 14, 2019 06:28 AM (3Ocrl)

34 Damn Farmer Bob, another P"Cola Moron, we3'll have to have a real Mini MoMe.

Posted by: Panhandler at December 14, 2019 06:28 AM (S/rwf)

35 Alexa: Just a moment... Just a moment... I've just picked up a fault in the AE-35 clothes washer unit. It's going to go 100% failure within 72 hours. You'll need to go over there and replace it, krakatoa.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 14, 2019 06:28 AM (dQ1sa)

36 Mornin'

I don't think I've had a decent night sleep since November. I went to bed at midnight and woke up at 0230.

Time to go freebase some coffee.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 06:29 AM (H9nza)

37 Replaced the main control board in our washer back in June after a lightning strike / power outage; now it's got its own surge suppressor.
Going to do one of those whole-house suppressors on the entrance panel one of these days.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 06:30 AM (JwHjN)

38 26- car salesman?
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:21 AM (87EdW)

Heh. No, just like big engines. Thought going from eights to sixes was bad. But sixes to 4s?

You are completely right. We have been looking around for a temporary car for an out of town assignment.

Started looking at the Kia /Hyundai, Honda ranges. Have grudgingly looked at Subarus too despite their politics.

Anyway, many do not even offer sixes anymore, just fours. Even worse, when they do offer a six their fours are rated at higher hp and efficiency.

You are right, they are doing great things with fours. I am beginning to wonder if some of the guys not using fours are doing so mostly for marketing.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:30 AM (HALdu)

39 We think it is unjust when some developed countries claim to stand with us but object to even the most modest text on loss and damage, Omar Figueroa, Belizes climate change minister, said Thursday.

The time to scale up finance has passed. It is time to make this mechanism deliver, he said.Where is the ambition on loss and damage?

So the Paris NonTreaty is just a way for poor countries to get American Tax Dollars!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:30 AM (JFO2v)

40
Everything these days is designed by committee and designed to fail. Case in point: low flow toilets.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:31 AM (yJwni)

41 I've been looking for a new (used) car or truck. The KIA has stick shift, and has to go because of The Knee and The Hip. Dealers and individuals are proud to advertise a vehicle with "only" 150,000 miles on it.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:27 AM (C1Lsn)

Kia is doing some impressive things now.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:31 AM (HALdu)

42 I've been looking for a new (used) car or truck. The KIA has stick shift, and has to go because of The Knee and The Hip. Dealers and individuals are proud to advertise a vehicle with "only" 150,000 miles on it.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Have you ever seen the movie "Used Cars" ?

Posted by: JT at December 14, 2019 06:32 AM (arJlL)

43 Coffee !
That's the ticket !

brb

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 06:32 AM (JwHjN)

44 Puddleglum- wow, I thought I was bad, compared to you I'm Rip Van Winkle

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:33 AM (ZCEU2)

45 Alexa: Look krakatoa, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think
you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 14, 2019 06:33 AM (dQ1sa)

46 39 We think it is unjust when some developed countries claim to stand with us but object to even the most modest text on loss and damage, Omar Figueroa, Belizes climate change minister, said Thursday.

The time to scale up finance has passed. It is time to make this mechanism deliver, he said.Where is the ambition on loss and damage?

So the Paris NonTreaty is just a way for poor countries to get American Tax Dollars!
Posted by: rhennigantx

It was always about the redistribution of wealth.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 06:33 AM (H9nza)

47 38 Not so, you are right about great things with the four bangers. My KIA has a little 1.6 liter and churns out about 120 hp. Compare to an old VW type 1 at 1.6, 36 hp or a 144ci Iron Duke, under 80 hp.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:34 AM (C1Lsn)

48 Bloomberg released a 100% clean power plan Friday to replace the nations remaining 251 coal plants with clean electricity and stop the construction of new gas plants to achieve 80% clean electricity by 2028.

Gas is 35% of US output
Coal is 27% of US Output

So in 19 years he wants to replace 62% of current capabilities. And he is a genius??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:35 AM (JFO2v)

49 I can't stand the new water-saving appliances. It takes well over an hour to run my dishwasher, possibly because I keep it on the pot-scrubber setting. If I don't use the pot-scrubber setting the dishes don't get clean.

My washing machine is over 25 years old. About fifteen years ago I had to call a repairman because it wasn't draining, as I recall. A screw had frozen, but fortunately he was able to get it unstuck, and the washer has worked like a charm ever since.

I'm dreading the day I'll need to replace it because I can't stand the new machines. The new machines don't have variable load-size settings. The machine knows how much clothing is in it and adjusts the water. The problem is that the water-saving function means that the machine doesn't put enough water in the washing machine to get your clothes clean. So many washing machines now have an override full-basket setting. Which means that's what everybody uses, even when they only have a half-load, so no water is actually being saved.

And here's what kills me - I don't live in an area where water shortages are a problem. Why must I suffer because idiots want to live in the California desert?

Posted by: biancaneve at December 14, 2019 06:35 AM (hkMx0)

50
29 today is 2 year anniversary of net neutrality. Blood running curb deep here in Houston.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:22 AM (JFO2v)

Tell me about it. There were dead bodies falling out of the sky during yesterday's "rain event" as I drove to Annapolis.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:35 AM (yJwni)

51 What the heck are you folks doing up this time of night/morning?
I'd say "Get off my lawn";but I don't have a Ford or a firearm. And Clint Eastwood's character in that movie didn't survive.
So feel free to use the lawn. Just try not to wake the kids.

Posted by: setnaffa at December 14, 2019 06:36 AM (GNh9P)

52 34- Awesome- we can meet at Jerry's and share a pitcher, its walking distance for me.
38- I'm with you. Nothing like the deep "wugga wugga" of 300+ cubic inches of Detroit iron.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:37 AM (87EdW)

53 Army/Navy game today.

GO AIR FORCE!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 06:37 AM (H9nza)

54 38 Not so, you are right about great things with the four bangers. My KIA has a little 1.6 liter and churns out about 120 hp. Compare to an old VW type 1 at 1.6, 36 hp or a 144ci Iron Duke, under 80 hp.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:34 AM (C1Lsn)

Yeah, hard not to be impressed with them or argue that you need a v6 or more.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:37 AM (HALdu)

55 I watch the show Motorweek to see some of the new cars that are available.
Over the years it's amusing how the smaller engine, fuel efficient cars are said to have "leisurely acceleration" and that the car/suv has a small rear seat or cargo area.

This is what these guys have been saying we needed for years.
Meanwhile, they praise the electric cars, and don't mention the downsides other than we need more charging stations. And the next car they test is some 12 cylinder luxury sports car on a closed track and telling us how great a 250 thousand dollar car is so great.

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

56
The time to scale up finance has passed. It is time to make this mechanism deliver, he said.Where is the ambition on loss and damage?

The language of extortion may change, but the act of extortion does not.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:38 AM (yJwni)

57 I've had fairly decent luck with Kenmore appliances, but I am going to replace the hot water heater just to be on the safe side, it's been in service 15 years and every time I look at it, it look like it's going to give up the ghost.

I'd like to go tankless but I don't think I can make the math work.

Posted by: White Rabbit Object at December 14, 2019 06:39 AM (BYI1d)

58 34- Awesome- we can meet at Jerry's and share a pitcher, its walking distance for me.

I live just off Summit by Bayview, pick a day and time and let me know.

Posted by: Panhandler at December 14, 2019 06:40 AM (S/rwf)

59 Have you ever seen the movie "Used Cars" ?
Posted by: JT

Great movie!

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:40 AM (vd8XM)

60 Posted by: biancaneve at December 14, 2019 06:35 AM (hkMx0)

Exactly.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 06:40 AM (Z/jzm)

61 Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

They are definitely all in on electric cars. I'm not sure I even remember the last episode that didn't pimp "green" vehicles.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 14, 2019 06:40 AM (cknjq)

62 Don't know about everyone else being up early, I'm up anticipating returning home. One week with hubby's family and I'm ready to return to our quiet existence away from crazy.
He's one of 7 siblings. I believe that only two of them aren't batshit crazy. Hubby being one of them.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 14, 2019 06:41 AM (3Ocrl)

63 Army/Navy game today.

GO AIR FORCE!!

Er, you do understand the meaning of the word "rivalry" don't you?

Posted by: Panhandler at December 14, 2019 06:42 AM (S/rwf)

64 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 06:42 AM (O4024)

65 58- ha, I'm on Scenic in Spyglass, just down the road from you. Cool.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:42 AM (87EdW)

66 And here's what kills me - I don't live in an area where water shortages are a problem. Why must I suffer because idiots want to live in the California desert?
Posted by: biancaneve

There are some top loaders out there that will do a load in 40 minutes, have minimal dials. I've looked at a few, and will probably purchase one of those when it's time

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:42 AM (vd8XM)

67 Oh, and GO NAVY

BEAT ARMY!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 06:42 AM (O4024)

68 When we replaced wifeys '03 Durango with a '13 three years ago, I was curious if V6 would be a slug. So my BIL and I had a couple of races with them. The 03 had the 4.7 Semi Hemi V8 and the new one the Pentastar 3.6L. They were both rated at 295 HP. I can tell you there is no replacement for cubic displacement. The Semi Hemi just had too much grunt in the middle for the newer one, but the V6 is quite adequate.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 06:43 AM (d0J2R)

69 He's one of 7 siblings. I believe that only two of them aren't batshit crazy. Hubby being one of them.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine

The other 5 think those 2 are crazy

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:43 AM (vd8XM)

70
I used to toss a load of things in that needed soaking, let the washer fill with water then raise the lid to let it soak for a while. Now it drains after 10 minutes or so.

Unplug it until the soak time meets with your approval.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:43 AM (yJwni)

71 Bruce, which one? Mom's one that i hate is an Amana.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 06:44 AM (Z/jzm)

72 Bruce. Yep. GE bottom of the line with agitator. Super size load almost every time to get the most water and often on rapid wash. Load done in 30 minutes.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 14, 2019 06:45 AM (3Ocrl)

73 Unplug it until the soak time meets with your approval.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

And believe me, some things take a lot of soaking...

...Huma, eyeing the pile of Shillaries bedsheets...

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:45 AM (vd8XM)

74 68- I think Ford or Chevy is moving to a 4 cylinder mill for full size trucks. They claim the torque is there too, via supercharging, I think.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:45 AM (87EdW)

75 Had to replace a dishwasher and a dryer this year. The dryer was fine, just didn't match tye washer load, so she replaced it and we gave the old dryer to someone who needed one.

The dishwasher just plain crapped out after 7 years. Samsung that we replaced with a Bosch. It's all a crapshoot anymore I guess.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 06:47 AM (d0J2R)

76 No dog in the A&N game but Go Army!

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 06:47 AM (ZCEU2)

77 We have an suv with a turbo v6 that cranks out 365 hp and does 0-60 in 5 secs or so. It takes a second or two to get going but when the turbo kicks in it is fun.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:48 AM (HALdu)

78 Bruce, which one? Mom's one that i hate is an Amana.
Posted by: My life is insanity

Looking at consumer reports, there are some GE top loaders

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:48 AM (vd8XM)

79
The clothes washer and clothes dryer that we have are over twenty years old. I think they are Maytags, but do not quote me. I tell Mrs. K (who is on board with this), "We will repair the hell out of those two machines until we no longer can do so. There is no way that I want today's offerings in their stead."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:48 AM (yJwni)

80 I must be lucky, knock on wood, because I have all of those fancy new energy efficient appliances and not a single problem in 8 years running. Plus we moved during that time frame so they have been knocked around more than normal.

Our 3 low flow toilets have never had an issue in the four years we have lived in this house.

The only thing we have had an issue with is one of the hot water tanks. The thermostat went out two years ago and we replaced it. It went out again this summer and I said just replace the whole thing when we opened it up and saw scorch marks all over the place.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 14, 2019 06:48 AM (JUOKG)

81 2 min 19 sec of The Dossier is Great

https://tinyurl.com/s8sysl4

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:48 AM (JFO2v)

82 Oh, and if you stop it mid load and restart it, it drains everything. So because mom doesnt understand how to use a washing machine anymore, she hits the button to pause it to open the lid to "make sure it's working" but that's the same button to push to cancel the wash. So if she presses it too long, it stops the entire cycle and drains the water! Wash day is a real fun time around here!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 06:49 AM (Z/jzm)

83 Subaru is making a 2.4 turbo four that makes 260 horses.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:49 AM (HALdu)

84 Just looked it up- Chevy has a 2.7 liter 4 banger, turbo charged to deliver 348 lb-ft, with 7200 lbs of towing capacity. That's pretty incredible.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:50 AM (87EdW)

85 63 Army/Navy game today.

GO AIR FORCE!!

Er, you do understand the meaning of the word "rivalry" don't you?
Posted by: Panhandler

Fine. GO ARMY!! If Army wins, the CinC Cup goes to the Air Force. I think. Navy beat the AF, AF beat the Army. If Army beats Navy...um, something happens. Army currently hold the CinC Cup.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 06:50 AM (H9nza)

86 Just looked it up- Chevy has a 2.7 liter 4 banger, turbo charged to deliver 348 lb-ft, with 7200 lbs of towing capacity. That's pretty incredible.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:50 AM (87EdW)

yeah

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:51 AM (HALdu)

87 74 68- I think Ford or Chevy is moving to a 4 cylinder mill for full size trucks. They claim the torque is there too, via supercharging, I think.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:45 AM (87EdW)

The new engines you have to rev the shit out of them to get to their power. Off the line is the issue, but they really are making decent power with small ci's today.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 06:51 AM (d0J2R)

88 My life is insanity. Check Item # 1258836 Model # GTW335ASNWW at Lowe's. Very basic. Newer version of the one I just love.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (3Ocrl)

89 G'morning, Horde. Happy Saturday. Hope your team wins.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (XxJt1)

90 A neighbor went out car shopping, and narrowed it down to a KIA or Hyundai (ended up with a better deal on a Hyundai). While shopping, he test drove a Soul Turbo and he said it felt like a jet.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (C1Lsn)

91 So in 19 years he wants to replace 62% of current capabilities. And he is a genius??
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:35 AM (JFO2v)

His entire campaign has seemed like a mockumentary.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (y7DUB)

92 87 74 68- I think Ford or Chevy is moving to a 4 cylinder mill for full size trucks. They claim the torque is there too, via supercharging, I think.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:45 AM (87EdW)

The new engines you have to rev the shit out of them to get to their power. Off the line is the issue, but they really are making decent power with small ci's today.
Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 06:51 AM (d0J2R)

One of the real secrets is the transmission. 7 to 10 speed trannys help both off the line and then at cruising.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (JFO2v)

93 I think you can get a top loading Roper at Lowes for around $300 with no bells and whistles. I did 3 years ago after a bad experience with hi-tech top and Samsung.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 14, 2019 06:53 AM (87EdW)

94 I recently read that the "light" load on modern (cough) efficient dishwashers is the equivalent to just running a normal dishwasher back before they took four hours to not clean your dishes before requiring another cycle.

I use it every time now. Combined with the little powerball detergent cubes it is almost bearable.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 06:54 AM (0GvUH)

95 I did 3 years ago after a bad experience with hi-tech top and Samsung.
Posted by: Farmer Bob

Heh. Sounds like someone describing a bad breakup

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:54 AM (vd8XM)

96 And ultimately, Im not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law. Thats his call, because I dont know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be. But thats obviously an option he has.

Progressives loves to threat violence on law abiding citizens.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:55 AM (JFO2v)

97 Skip, don't know if you care but an endurance race about to start on Motortrend

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 14, 2019 06:55 AM (cknjq)

98 The other thing, I don't care how great your mileage is I want a bigger fuel tank.

30 gallons on everything.

More range is better.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:56 AM (HALdu)

99 One of the real secrets is the transmission. 7 to 10 speed trannys help both off the line and then at cruising.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (JFO2v)

That's true. A really tall 1st and 2nd gear would help a lot.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 06:56 AM (d0J2R)

100 I use it every time now. Combined with the little powerball detergent cubes it is almost bearable.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 06:54 AM (0GvUH)

Use powdered detergent

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:56 AM (HALdu)

101 Driving a RDX Acura for past year and it is a lot of fun. The power is a 4 banger with turbo, so 273 hp and its quick for 5000 lbs. The software provides a sports + mode which seems to eliminate the turbo lag. AWD for the Spokane trips.

Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 06:57 AM (WX+x0)

102 Got a Simpson press washer in Feb this year. Used it 3 times, but had started it every month and run it for 30 mins. Used only non-ethanol, checked oil before each use. Went to start it last week. Fired on first pull for a couple secs & stopped. Second pull - engine seized.

Posted by: Roscoe at December 14, 2019 06:57 AM (YZ2Bu)

103 Somewhere I read an article a week or two ago, saying they were going to "relax" the restricions on water usage in washing machines. Those laws need to go away entirely.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 06:57 AM (XxJt1)

104 Use powdered detergent
Posted by: not so

But, what will the children snack on then?

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:57 AM (vd8XM)

105 97: what endurance race? The next one that I'm familiar with is the Dubai 24 hours in January.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 06:57 AM (H9nza)

106
His entire campaign has seemed like a mockumentary.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2019 06:52 AM (y7DUB)

Meanwhile, Shrillary "I See Russians!" Clintoon, awaits her entry cue, off stage and on left.

"Shut up, asshole!" needs to become the universal rejoinder to anything she says.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:58 AM (yJwni)

107 Driving a RDX Acura for past year and it is a lot of fun. The power is a 4 banger with turbo, so 273 hp and its quick for 5000 lbs. The software provides a sports + mode which seems to eliminate the turbo lag. AWD for the Spokane trips.
Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 06:57 AM (WX+x0)

Does the sport mode have a manualish option for shifting?

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:58 AM (HALdu)

108 Use powdered detergent

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:56 AM (HALdu)

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Ha. Not in this house. The wife and kids don't understand that you don't need three cups of it or liquid detergent for clothes.

Those little single use tablets have probably saved me thousands of dollars a year on detergent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (0GvUH)

109 98 I was watching a Mecum auction yesterday and a 2018 Demon went across the block. Commenters said if you run it at full throttle, if you have the road to do it, you have about 9 minutes of fuel. 750 horses gotta drink.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (C1Lsn)

110 " ...
More range is better.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:56 AM (HALdu) "

For people maybe, not so much for control of the population.

Need you to check in frequently for license-plate and facial recognition checks.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (JwHjN)

111 Thanks neverenoughcaffeine! I will.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (Z/jzm)

112 what endurance race? The next one that I'm familiar with is the Dubai 24 hours in January.
Posted by: Puddleglum

FIA-WEC race in Bahrain

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (vd8XM)

113 98 I was watching a Mecum auction yesterday and a 2018 Demon went across the block. Commenters said if you run it at full throttle, if you have the road to do it, you have about 9 minutes of fuel. 750 horses gotta drink.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (C1Lsn)

How do numbers like that not make anyone grin?

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:00 AM (HALdu)

114 And Lowes gives Veterans a ten percent discount on everything even if the item is on sale. The only place I shop.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at December 14, 2019 07:00 AM (i94at)

115 Governor of Virginia will try to use the national guard to enforce gun takin' but DJT will federalize them so there's that.
Ask George Wallace, he'll tell you all about that.

Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 07:01 AM (WX+x0)

116 For people maybe, not so much for control of the population.

Need you to check in frequently for license-plate and facial recognition checks.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 06:59 AM (JwHjN)

You know there is some truth to that.

I was thinking that having everyone with a 30 gallon tank would be good for a national emergency of some sort since the already distributed supply would be helpful.

We have been through enough stupid emergencies that would have been much more tolerable if everyone had 30 gallon tanks.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:02 AM (HALdu)

117 What blows my mind is that automakers thought people wanted smaller trucks. They wanted CHEAPER trucks not $50k small trucks.

Hyundai or Kia would have 30% of the market overnight if they'd introduce a $20K truck.

(goes to see if the chicken tax is still law)

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:02 AM (0GvUH)

118 Off the line is the issue, but they really are making decent power with small ci's today.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 06:51 AM (d0J2R)

Used to see a dealership guy now and the at a bar I used to frequent. He said the turbo that Ford put in the F-150 was getting lots of warranty issues for valve-trains.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 07:02 AM (oAXUX)

119 Items on sale + the additional 10% almost bring Lowe's prices to where they should be all the time.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:03 AM (0GvUH)

120 And Lowes gives Veterans a ten percent discount on everything even if the item is on sale. The only place I shop.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at December 14, 2019 07:00 AM

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You have to get registered for the discount at least around here. Home depot gives the discount too, but not for any sale items. They used to give the discount on sale items but they quit doing that recently.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 14, 2019 07:04 AM (JUOKG)

121 Not so, well it does have the shifty paddle thingys at the wheel. Would like a twin turbo 6 as option but not so in the Acura.

Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 07:04 AM (WX+x0)

122 Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:02 AM (0GvUH)

Emissions, mileage and safety requirements make a 20k pickup hard to do. A stripped down Frontier is about as good as it gets in that market. Plus the chicken tax.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 14, 2019 07:05 AM (cknjq)

123 115 I was writing about the NG use last night and convinced its a rumor or wishful thinking by some Leftist.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:05 AM (ZCEU2)

124 Yay, two naproxen and a cuppa joe. Breakfast of champions. Well, old champions.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 07:06 AM (C1Lsn)

125 WEC-FIA. Got it. I don't have MotortrendTV. I'll try Youtube. I'm subscribed to the WEC page anyway.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:07 AM (H9nza)

126 The Acura software selection is comfort,sport,sport+ and snow. I'm guessing that the software changes shift points, suspension, and turbo avail.

Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 07:07 AM (WX+x0)

127 Wasn't it the Home Depot CEO that said just the other day that Home Depot was suffering from an increase in shoplifting due to the opioid crisis?

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 14, 2019 07:07 AM (cBpq4)

128 Being the race fans were in Bahrain recently makes sense.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:08 AM (ZCEU2)

129 You can get your veteran's status applied to your MyLowes acct. It becomes automatic.

Posted by: JAS at December 14, 2019 07:08 AM (DBGf/)

130 not so -

Yeah, in some circles the desire for independence or self-reliance is viewed with vast suspicion ... "Don't you trust the government to Do What's Right and Necessary ?"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:09 AM (JwHjN)

131 Not so, well it does have the shifty paddle thingys at the wheel. Would like a twin turbo 6 as option but not so in the Acura.
Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 07:04 AM (WX+x0)

Those are fun but we never use them.

Maybe once in a while for down shifting.

Was riding with a guy that used his paddle shifters all the time. He was explaining that using it to downshift saved his brakes. Not sure if he thought about his transmission.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:09 AM (HALdu)

132 You can get your veteran's status applied to your MyLowes acct. It becomes automatic.

Posted by: JAS at December 14, 2019 07:08 AM

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That's what I did.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 14, 2019 07:10 AM (JUOKG)

133 As said last night it would take use of the National Guard to take weapons from the public, a company size formation at least but no fkin way would that fly until the burning times come.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:10 AM (ZCEU2)

134 Meanwhile, Shrillary "I See Russians!" Clintoon, awaits her entry cue, off stage and on left.

"Shut up, asshole!" needs to become the universal rejoinder to anything she says.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 14, 2019 06:58 AM (yJwni)

After that hideous facial surgery she'll probably just release some CGI animation clips instead of actually being anywhere, particularly Wisconsin. Honestly it wouldn't be significantly weirder than anything else the donks have done.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2019 07:10 AM (y7DUB)

135 Yeah, in some circles the desire for independence or self-reliance is viewed with vast suspicion ... "Don't you trust the government to Do What's Right and Necessary ?"
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:09 AM (JwHjN)

Heh

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:10 AM (HALdu)

136 She also home schools 15 y/o at work. The mom and pop business has provided a computer workroom for employees' kids. She uses a popular program and the boy loves it. No distractions.
Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 06:20 AM (WX+x0)

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You don't happen to know the name of the program she uses, do you? I homeschool my son, and I don't think what we're using this year is working particularly well.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 07:10 AM (CAJOC)

137 2019 Nissan Frontier length - 205"

2000 Chevrolet Tahoe length - 199"

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:11 AM (0GvUH)

138 Sadly I don't have Motortrend TV either

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:11 AM (ZCEU2)

139 "Everything these days breaks so easily. "

Now, it's garbage.

Posted by: Guy who always says "now, it's garbge" at December 14, 2019 07:11 AM (Tnijr)

140 Need suggestions on a new refrig. The ice maker in mine is starting to balk and some parts of the drawers are broken. I wanted to buy one at our local hardware store but they want $1200 for it. No wonder people go to Lowe's.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:11 AM (XxJt1)

141 Weasel could hold off 2 squads himself if I gamed it

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:13 AM (ZCEU2)

142 Need suggestions on a new refrig. The ice maker in mine is starting to balk and some parts of the drawers are broken. I wanted to buy one at our local hardware store but they want $1200 for it. No wonder people go to Lowe's.
Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:11 AM (XxJt1)

You know, I watched some old Perry Mason shows a while ago. Know where everyone used to buy their guns, at least in the show, hardware stores. In California even.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:13 AM (HALdu)

143 I don't think Youtube is showing it live. Hopefully they'll upload the replay later.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:14 AM (H9nza)

144 Remember how huge the Ford Excursion seemed?

Only 227" in length

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:14 AM (0GvUH)

145 Weasel could hold off 2 squads himself if I gamed it
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:13 AM (ZCEU2)

Guessing the libs in Virginia want to do something more Wacoish.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:14 AM (HALdu)

146 Remember how huge the Ford Excursion seemed?

Only 227" in length
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:14 AM (0GvUH)

There are more than a few of those driving around even now.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:15 AM (HALdu)

147 Need suggestions on a new refrig

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Whirlpool Gold. Freezer on the bottom, no ice maker. We're going on twelve or so years without a single problem (never even had to defrost it, either - wow).

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:15 AM (0GvUH)

148 Yeah, in some circles the desire for independence or self-reliance is viewed with vast suspicion ... "Don't you trust the government to Do What's Right and Necessary ?"

How people compartmentalize it blows me away. When I see police or military - I see government. I'm in the minority.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 07:16 AM (oAXUX)

149 "He was explaining that using it to downshift saved his brakes"

Paddles are for fags and brakes are cheaper than transmissions.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:16 AM (Tnijr)

150 Bill in Arkansas, my Challenger has a twenty-five gallon tank. You must be able to see that Demon's gas gauge move at full speed. Talk about lousy gas mileage!

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:17 AM (XxJt1)

151 Stately (yet not too ostentatious) Tater Manor has several near vintage appliances. Maytag, Whirlpool, Amana.

Repairable, simple, reliable, and best of all work. Ice makers are (or were) almost universal and only about $20 and ten minutes to replace. The kind that produce those execreble half-moon ice cubes, but still. Easy fix.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 07:17 AM (4kNoB)

152 On my RPG the NG would have to bring along 105s artillery,

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:17 AM (ZCEU2)

153 Creeper. We're in a large metro area and I believe you're rural. However check for smaller dealers that carry factory seconds. Just bought a freezer less fridge that had minor cosmetic issues and save $200. We looked and couldn't find the issues. The difference seemed to be that it was shipped without being boxed. Foam protectors and shrink wrap.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 14, 2019 07:17 AM (3Ocrl)

154 Ram 1500 classic
2019 RAM 1500 Classic Tradesman

MSRP $34,830
Dealer Price
$23,721

4 door
8 speed
v 6

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 07:18 AM (JFO2v)

155 "He was explaining that using it to downshift saved his brakes"

Paddles are for fags and brakes are cheaper than transmissions.
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:16 AM (Tnijr)

Sadly, yes. The paddles are better than nothing but no substitute for a manual.

Same page with the brakes are cheaper than transmissions.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:18 AM (HALdu)

156 The kind that produce those execreble half-moon ice cubes, but still. Easy fix.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 07:17 AM (4kNoB)

Just did one - you're right. Took longer to order than install.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 07:18 AM (oAXUX)

157 Have you LADIES done my silk panties and pantaloons for the upcoming BOOK THREAD...............pay special attention to the skid marks GIRLS..............now Moar Cofeve and a SAMMICH would be nice....cry among yerself .

Posted by: saf at December 14, 2019 07:19 AM (5IHGB)

158 Jeez, the new F150 crew cab is 244"

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:19 AM (0GvUH)

159 150 Yeah , that's what I thought, but they said absolute full throttle, and with over 750 hp, I guess so.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 07:19 AM (C1Lsn)

160 Wait until Weasel finds he needs to build a bunker with 3 feet of packed death on top.

And saf, your a piece of work

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:20 AM (ZCEU2)

161 Saw Ford v. Ferrari last week. Lots of tense gear-shifting shots in the movie. Now I'm wondering: do race cars work the same as regular manual transmissions? Clutch in, shift, clutch out? Seemed like they were doing it much faster in the movie. Anybody know?

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2019 07:20 AM (urZJh)

162 He was explaining that using it to downshift saved his brakes

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I saved $60 in brake pads over the life of the car, and all I had to do was switch the stress to my engine and transmission.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:21 AM (0GvUH)

163 147 Need suggestions on a new refrig

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Whirlpool Gold. Freezer on the bottom, no ice maker. We're going on twelve or so years without a single problem (never even had to defrost it, either - wow).
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:15 AM (0GvUH)

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The wife and I got a new fridge a couple years ago from Costco. Whirlpool, freezer on the bottom, ice maker/water dispenser, refrigerator drawer. We absolutely love it. So if you have a Costco near you (and have a membership) it's worth checking out.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 07:21 AM (CAJOC)

164 Question re: veteran's discounts...

mr. creeper was a WWII vet. As his widow, would I be eligible for that discount?

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:22 AM (XxJt1)

165 I have a 6 1/2 foot bed with extended cab, any longer and it would be a real pain to park

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:22 AM (ZCEU2)

166 I knew an (older) couple that received a Philco refrigerator in 1948 as a wedding present. As of a few years ago they were still using it, as a soda/beer fridge in the basement.

Sometimes you'll hear "public service" advertisements that old refrigerators are energy hogs. Don't believe them. This is actually a complete and utter lie, as anyone with an ammeter or Kill-a-Watt meter can show you. The old units just sipped the juice and were very quiet.

Styles change, and I wouldn't expect anyone to use a 75 year old refrigerator, but it is very sad what new units cost compared with their reliability. How much energy is being "saved" by replacing the whole damn thing every 4 or 5 years?

Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 07:22 AM (4kNoB)

167 162 He was explaining that using it to downshift saved his brakes

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I saved $60 in brake pads over the life of the car, and all I had to do was switch the stress to my engine and transmission.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:21 AM (0GvUH)

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My wife's car has paddles. I'm fairly certain she's never used them. Doubt she'd know how (I certainly don't)

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 07:23 AM (CAJOC)

168 Earth not death, ok maybe dead bodies would be a nice touch.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:23 AM (ZCEU2)

169 I had a rental Corolla S once with the CVT transmission, and it had paddle shifters. Dumb. I beat the hell out of those paddles though for about 5 minutes and got it out of my system. After that it wasn't worth mesing with. With a CVT you are better off just letting it do it's thing.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:24 AM (Tnijr)

170 161 Saw Ford v. Ferrari last week. Lots of tense gear-shifting shots in the movie. Now I'm wondering: do race cars work the same as regular manual transmissions? Clutch in, shift, clutch out? Seemed like they were doing it much faster in the movie. Anybody know?
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2019 07:20 AM (urZJh)

I think thr GT40 had a ZF transaxale. In the 60s the 4 speed was available then a 5 speed. Also had a 2 speed auto crash box (no clutch) that worked well on tighter tracks.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 07:25 AM (JFO2v)

171 CVTs were invented by the devil

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 14, 2019 07:25 AM (cknjq)

172 Moron Robbie and No One of Consequence, thanks for the suggestions. Ice maker and water filter are the only essentials. Maybe I can scare up someonwith a Costco card. I don't even know where the nearest one is.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:25 AM (XxJt1)

173 "do race cars work the same as regular manual transmissions? "

Back then they did. Now they have fancy smancy two clutch 8 speed paddle shifters.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:26 AM (Tnijr)

174 Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2019 07:20 AM

A F-1 car transmission is very small but no idea how it works

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:26 AM (ZCEU2)

175 161 Saw Ford v. Ferrari last week. Lots of tense gear-shifting shots in the movie. Now I'm wondering: do race cars work the same as regular manual transmissions? Clutch in, shift, clutch out? Seemed like they were doing it much faster in the movie. Anybody know?
Posted by: Trimegistus

I'm not an engineer but do watch all kinds of racing. Maybe some of the horde can explain in detail but I can say road car and race cars transmission are different. Very different.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:26 AM (H9nza)

176 My '14 Honda Civic has CVT. I love it.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:27 AM (H9nza)

177 I saved $60 in brake pads over the life of the car, and all I had to do was switch the stress to my engine and transmission.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 14, 2019 07:21 AM (0GvUH)

Yeah, he did not think it through.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:29 AM (HALdu)

178 Maybe I can scare up someonwith a Costco card. I don't even know where the nearest one is.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:25 AM (XxJt1)

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Honestly it is likely worth the $50 or whatever to get one for the purchase. It's probably a good deal (or will go on sale), and they have an outstanding return policy if you're dissatisfied.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 14, 2019 07:30 AM (JLaUz)

179
Go Army Air Force! That's for my dad who would've turned 95 today.

And good morning kids.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 14, 2019 07:30 AM (zBaqJ)

180 never enough caffeine, 'preciate the reminder on "scratch and dent stuff. Our first laundry set had rented sides. It was a stackable pair and when we slid them into place nobody could see the dents. Good thinking.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:31 AM (XxJt1)

181 My work car has autoshift.

It's better than those paddle shifters, but no replacement for a manual. Disable the traction control and it's better and makes it a bit more fun to blow around the homo in the left lane doing 58mph.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 07:31 AM (d0J2R)

182 dented sides, fer crying out loud

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:32 AM (XxJt1)

183 Okay, that didn't come out like I wanted it to...

Yeesh.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 07:32 AM (d0J2R)

184 It will be amusing to watch the Leftist actors in Eastwood's film defend it or at least avoid attacking it. This must be awkward for them.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 07:32 AM (H8QX8)

185 Sometimes you'll hear "public service" advertisements that old refrigerators are energy hogs. Don't believe them. This is actually a complete and utter lie,

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What are you, anti-science or something? Everyone knows it's better for the environment to build a new unit from scratch, paint it, pack it with chemicals, and ship it over on a big boat before shipping it further with a big truck and putting it in the house in place of the one that is taken by truck to a place to be dismantled, the gas collected, the metal scrapped and melted down, and everything that isn't dumped in a landfill moved by more trucks to move somewhere else by more trucks later.

Science, h8r. Look it up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 14, 2019 07:33 AM (JLaUz)

186 "How much energy is being "saved" by replacing the whole damn thing every 4 or 5 years?

Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 07:22 AM (4kNoB) "

Versus how much cash is being collected by Our Globalist (would-be) Masters.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:33 AM (JwHjN)

187 *backhands saf*

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:34 AM (XxJt1)

188 *backhands saf*

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:34 AM (XxJt1)

Was it a little back hand or did you bend your knees?

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:35 AM (HALdu)

189 I'm not an engineer but do watch all kinds of racing. Maybe some of the horde can explain in detail but I can say road car and race cars transmission are different. Very different.
Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:26 AM (H9nza)

I don't think it's fundamentally different except in the way racer's use gears and shifting as a means of controlling the car and exploiting/managing performance limits. Same tools, but more of an art form.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 07:35 AM (H8QX8)

190 All 3 of my Focuses have 5 speed manual transaxles. One I use for Rallycross, one for Autocross, and one is a daily driver. The manual gearboxes are easy enough to work on, and I put limited slip diff's in two of them. They are pretty strong transmissions, I've seen them hold 400+ HP. The Focus automatics are notoriously bad though, and I wouldn't recommend one to anyone. A manual gearbox will outlast any automatic if you don't abuse it.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:36 AM (Tnijr)

191 If you happen to be near a physical BestBuy outlet store, you can find some outstanding savings on appliances.

We left there last year with the $900.00 Bosch dishwasher.

Paid $175.00 for it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 07:36 AM (O4024)

192 Okay I just saw Hillary's new face that can't be real.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 07:37 AM (d0J2R)

193 The Whirlpool Duets, washer and dryer, don't buy those.

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:37 AM (HALdu)

194 J.J! That's where mr. creeper served...the US Army Air Corps. There was no "air force" then.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:38 AM (XxJt1)

195 Thanks to creeper for the public service and cleanup on the hobo isle#157.

Posted by: cowtown at December 14, 2019 07:38 AM (WX+x0)

196 Maybe some of the horde can explain in detail but I can say road car and race cars transmission are different. Very different.
Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:26 AM (H9nza)

The manuals are just gears and synchronizers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2019 07:40 AM (y7DUB)

197 not so, it was one of those backhands you don't even bother to look at...you just extend the arm and swing it.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:41 AM (XxJt1)

198 not so, it was one of those backhands you don't even bother to look at...you just extend the arm and swing it.
Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:41 AM (XxJt1)

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 07:41 AM (HALdu)

199 saf is relatively harmless and only slightly less comprehendrable than Sven.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:42 AM (Tnijr)

200 I too recently bought appliances at Lowe's during their black Friday thing.

They are now telling me that I will get it sometime after the new year.
I should have bought them at Sam's.

Posted by: Kestrel.987 at December 14, 2019 07:44 AM (XHXT8)

201 I was wondering what everybody was talking about concerning Hillary's new face. Bad move, looked up the picture. Looks like a squirrel storing nuts for the winter, with a sinus infection.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 07:44 AM (C1Lsn)

202
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2019 07:45 AM (wQSmN)

203 Hunter Biden is having another kid.

With his wife this time.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 07:46 AM (d0J2R)

204 Holiday family gatherings at the Biden's are getting more complicated by the year.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 07:47 AM (ZCEU2)

205 Just had a 31 year old Maytag washer fixed. Should be good for another 31. They truly DON'T make them like that anymore. And it's not a water saver, thank goodness.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 07:48 AM (7ZQe3)

206 30 year old Kenmores, extra large capacity washer and dryer. Have only needed one repair. What I want to buy, an extra large NON computerized machine WITH an agitator isn't made. Closest is a Speed Queen, but those aren't large enough to wash my big comforter, I'd have to go to a laundromat with a large machine. Makes me crazy. I am just dreading the day my washer dies.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 14, 2019 07:48 AM (gaFth)

207 ''Looks like a squirrel storing nuts for the winter, with a sinus infection"

I mentioned yesterday that she has duffel bags under her eyes.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:48 AM (Tnijr)

208 "Hunter Biden is having another kid.

With his wife this time. "

Joe must be so proud.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 07:48 AM (O4024)

209 >>saf is relatively harmless and only slightly less comprehendrable than Sven.
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 07:42 AM (Tnijr)

Well we were talking about washing machines...but my response would be, i wouldn't touch your stuff with a ♫ thirty-nine-and-a-half-foot pole! ♫ and the coffee maker is over there--->
and I bet you know how to open the fridge!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 07:49 AM (Z/jzm)

210 I decided a long time ago that saf was a possibly misguided but generous soul who just thought that all of us squares needed more surrealism and/or Dada in our lives ... that said, I don't see how the occasional backhand could be seen as anything other than valid artistic criticism, especially an ordinary backhand, without any windup or applied English.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:49 AM (JwHjN)

211 Mrs VIA's late Great-Aunts fridge continue to pur away in the original kitchen.

Serial number puts date of manufacturer as August, 1945.

Does not have an ice maker.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 07:51 AM (O4024)

212 >> Just had a 31 year old Maytag washer fixed. Should be good for another 31. They truly DON'T make them like that anymore. And it's not a water saver, thank goodness.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 07:48 AM (7ZQe3)

Pete, if i remember right you are in my general area. Do you mind telling me who fixed it? Or was it DIY?

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 07:51 AM (Z/jzm)

213 UGH!

Howdy, y'all.

Got into the comments and all the discussions about appliances.

SHHHHHH! Do NOT let our 24-year-old furnace and hot water tank hear you. Minimal service on the furnace all these years, none on the water tank. Been anticipating those last-millennium devices going the way of all mechanicals, yet they keep right on cranking.

Which is good. Currently, anything breaks anytime soon, and we're in deepest doodoo.

(Is it wrong to pray for an appliance?)

Posted by: mindful webworker - hot water heater hot water heater hahahaah at December 14, 2019 07:53 AM (s2OJe)

214 Shoulda deferred dealing with saf's comment to MLii. She's far less violent.

(((saf)))

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:53 AM (XxJt1)

215 203 Hunter Biden is having another kid.

With his wife this time.

Posted by: jsg

The jokes on Hunter. The kid will be black.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a new Soviet Virginian at December 14, 2019 07:53 AM (H9nza)

216 Makes me crazy. I am just dreading the day my washer dies.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 14, 2019 07:48 AM (gaFth)

A repairman I talked with (Samsung repair) told me there is a market for used machines. Don't know if you can get a 30 year old model. This is all an excellent example of "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" -- make your washer, dryer, dishwasher, refrigerator, etc more expensive, less effective, and shorter lived

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 14, 2019 07:53 AM (OFz7E)

217 Haha creeper! I had to train husband and two boys to fend for themselves once in a while

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 07:54 AM (Z/jzm)

218 Someday, hopefully, a daughter-in-law will thank me!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 07:55 AM (Z/jzm)

219 216 The fixit guy the landlord uses takes the older machines and refurbishes them in his spare time. He sells them as fast as he can get them ready.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 07:56 AM (C1Lsn)

220 Up until the last move I still had my parents first refrigerator, an ancient GE cylindrical thing that sat on top of the former icebox ... late 30's maybe ? Worked like a champ !

All stainless steel coils and tubing, because the refrigerant was Sulfur Dioxide !

Left it in the garage, much to the amazement & gratitude of the buyers.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:56 AM (JwHjN)

221 Mlii @217

saf is trainable?

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 07:56 AM (XxJt1)

222 Appliances ?

Luxury !

We had a rock along the stream for a washer and a vine strung between 2 trees for a dryer.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 07:58 AM (d0J2R)

223 Everything these days breaks so easily.

After reading reviews of so many appliances, it seems that there are two primary problems that rise to the surface - a circuit board blows out, and horrible customer service.

I bought line-conditioners (not surge protectors) for the high value appliances that are not on the house UPS system.

No problem with any device - at least not electrical - for many years.

I submit, with all of the energy problems caused by government and green initiatives, including that stupid idea made years ago to allow utilities to not deliver 60Hz power, our electrical appliances have suffered the most.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 14, 2019 07:58 AM (lD3vL)

224 Pete, if i remember right you are in my general area. Do you mind telling me who fixed it? Or was it DIY?

--

Brads Appliance repair. Sheboygan area. Excellent independent shop. Really knows his stuff.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 07:58 AM (7ZQe3)

225 FloidaMan, thanks for the tip, hadn't thought about buying used. Honestly, I want to kidnap every Member of Congress who voted for this and hand them a king comforter with chocolate stains and one of the washers they mandated, then tell them they won't be set free until the comforter is clean. They'll be there for years

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 14, 2019 07:59 AM (gaFth)

226 That Queens, NY house in the sidebar!

Simply astonishing! There's a house in the Orlando area I've been to that I thought was the biggest lights-and-displayapalooza I'd ever seen. This Queens house puts it to shame. I'm surprised the City Council types and SJW global warming ninnies haven't screamed themselves hoarse to ban displays such as this.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 07:59 AM (JoUsr)

227 sock-rat-eez, my dad kept his first refrig...a 1950 GE...for fifty years. When he replaced it, he moved it to the basement, drilled a hole for a tap on the side and kept a pony keg in it for the rest of his life.

Dad was German, of course.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:00 AM (XxJt1)

228 You are right, they are doing great things with fours. I am beginning to wonder if some of the guys not using fours are doing so mostly for marketing.
Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 06:30 AM (HALdu)

Our 2017 Toyota Sienna minivan has a six and pretty good power, which it needs. But a four will get better mileage

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 14, 2019 08:00 AM (OFz7E)

229 Holiday family gatherings at the Biden's are getting more complicated by the year.

Posted by: Skip
________

Joe, at Festivus:

". . . and none of you have ever done anything wrong, So ends the Airing of Grievances. Now for a push-up contest to start the Feats of . . . that's not a stripper pole, Hunter, we're not at a strip . . . WHAT'S THAT THING???"

Posted by: FireHorse at December 14, 2019 08:00 AM (ScWBu)

230 Creeper, doubtful.

jsg, i still do the clothesline thing! Well, not in winter, altho I've seen it done.

With all the washing machine hassles here lately, i'm thinking ringer washer would be just as easy! My parents had one when we first moved into this house. I was 3.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 08:01 AM (Z/jzm)

231 Maybe I should note that more than just one keg went through that refrig.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:01 AM (XxJt1)

232 0 year old Kenmores, extra large capacity washer and dryer. Have only needed one repair. What I want to buy, an extra large NON computerized machine WITH an agitator isn't made. Closest is a Speed Queen, but those aren't large enough to wash my big comforter, I'd have to go to a laundromat with a large machine. Makes me crazy. I am just dreading the day my washer dies.

Sad thing is that regular people aren't allowed to buy commercial grade appliances.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 14, 2019 08:02 AM (lD3vL)

233 >>Honestly, I want to kidnap every Member of Congress who voted for this and hand them a king comforter with chocolate stains and one of the washers they mandated, then tell them they won't be set free until the comforter is clean. They'll be there for years
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 14, 2019 07:59 AM (gaFth)

Oh that would be so satisfying to watch!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 08:04 AM (Z/jzm)

234 I like to disconnect or unplug devices in big thunderstorms. It doesn't take a direct lightning strike to fry modern electronics. A nearby lightning hit will induce a surge. When electrical power is lost, I like to flip the main breaker.

When power is restored, it avoids a huge surge/glitch etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 08:04 AM (4kNoB)

235 >>Brads Appliance repair. Sheboygan area. Excellent independent shop. Really knows his stuff.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 07:58 AM (7ZQe3)

Thanks, Pete. A bit of a drive, but doable if i cant find someone closer. I'll keep him in mind.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 08:06 AM (Z/jzm)

236 No, creeper, I figured it wasn't just one for all those years, lol !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 08:06 AM (JwHjN)

237 226 That Queens, NY house in the sidebar! Simply astonishing! There's a house in the Orlando area I've been to that I thought was the biggest lights-and-displayapalooza I'd ever seen. This Queens house puts it to shame. I'm surprised the City Council types and SJW global warming ninnies haven't screamed themselves hoarse to ban displays such as this.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 07:59 AM (JoUsr)

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I really miss the Christmas lights I grew up with. People here do not decorate nearly as much as back East.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:07 AM (EZebt)

238 Why is everybody up so early on a Saturday???

Posted by: Loitering hitler at December 14, 2019 08:07 AM (YOIA1)

239 Wringer washer. Uh, yeah. That thing was hard on fingers.

Maybe we oughta shut up, Mlii. We're dating ourselves rapidly. It's hard to maintain the illusion of youthfulness when your original dryer was a clothesline and wooden pegs.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:07 AM (XxJt1)

240 Drat!

That's just moi, not hitler.

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:08 AM (YOIA1)

241 Right behind me here, being used as a storage cabinet, is one of those 1930s GE refrigerators with the round unit on top. Big one, a two-door. Circa 1976, I made the terrible mistake of unplugging it since we wouldn't be living here for a while. When the time came to plug it back in, nothing. Always meant to have a small motor guy take a look at it, if he would.

As far as I know, it still has the full ammonium charge.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in 1940s schoolroom puke-green at December 14, 2019 08:08 AM (s2OJe)

242 I try to figure out the average per day/month/year cost of stuff like appliances and whatnot. Generally, If it makes me shrug my shoulders, it's off to buy a new one.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 08:09 AM (d0J2R)

243 ===

I really miss the Christmas lights I grew up with. People here do not decorate nearly as much as back East.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 201

Doesn't look the same without the snow.

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:09 AM (YOIA1)

244 jsg, i still do the clothesline thing! Well, not in winter, altho I've seen it done.

With all the washing machine hassles here lately, i'm thinking
ringer washer would be just as easy! My parents had one when we first
moved into this house. I was 3.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 08:01 AM (Z/jzm)

A drive by any Amish farm around here, clothes are hanging out on the long cloths lines year around.

Posted by: Colin at December 14, 2019 08:09 AM (3+/un)

245 creeper- I'm with MLii, I doubt it too

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:10 AM (ZCEU2)

246 222 Appliances ?

Luxury !

We had a rock along the stream for a washer and a vine strung between 2 trees for a dryer.
Posted by: jsg at Dec

Clothes? Luxury! We had to settle for fig leaves..,

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:11 AM (YOIA1)

247
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and enrage the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 08:11 AM (7rVsF)

248

Sven and I laugh at the girly-men...................then we drive off in our Turbo Subaru and Paddle the hell out of the tranny.....

I have BINDERS of Washerwomen.

Posted by: saf at December 14, 2019 08:12 AM (5IHGB)

249 My sister's stove craps out a week and half before Thanksgiving. She's doing the "Everyone comes over and I'll cook a 500 lb turkey".

She goes to Lowes.
Mind you this is over 10 days out.
"We can't deliver it until December." They laugh at her with Thanksgiving coming up. Dickson City PA.

She calls me. "What should I do?". "You have a local hole in the wall?" "Yeah." "Fuck Lowes". It wasn't so much they couldn't, it's that they thought it was funny that they couldn't.

Gets the stove that weekend. While she was there, she ordered a new range hood. And, between the order and delivery the washing machine crapped out. The place delivered also delivered that with the other 2 things.

I repeat, Fuck Lowes.

Oh, I should say, the hole in the wall may not be such a hole in the wall. I google street mapped the place and the parking lot showed a McLaren sports car in the parking lot. If it's the owners, that may be a perk for treating people right.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 14, 2019 08:12 AM (VYwSh)

250 >>Maybe we oughta shut up, Mlii. We're dating ourselves rapidly. It's hard to maintain the illusion of youthfulness when your original dryer was a clothesline and wooden pegs.
Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:07 AM (XxJt1)

LOL

For the record, I do have a clothes dryer too

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 08:12 AM (Z/jzm)

251 Clothes that dry outside on a spring day do smell awesome.

Posted by: jsg at December 14, 2019 08:12 AM (d0J2R)

252 Let's get out there and enrage the lunatics by living a good life today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 08:11 AM (7rVsF)

That's my plan.! I have soooo muuuch to do. why am I here?

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:13 AM (YOIA1)

253 https://tinyurl.com/u96b5dc

President retweeting Lou Dobbs raising questions about judicial complicity in the coup.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:14 AM (EZebt)

254
We have two washer/dryer sets. One is for people clothes and the second is for dog bedding. The criteria for the second set are 1) large and 2) dumb. Scratch and dent is fine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 08:14 AM (7rVsF)

255 4 wives is pretty impressive.

Posted by: David Prince at December 14, 2019 08:14 AM (JkygK)

256 Price wise this may be a good time to buy an appliance. Budgetwise, not so much. House taxes and car registration are due, not to mention the six hundred dollar bill for fixing the guinea pig. And Christmas. Thank dog for minimum required withdrawals on IRAs. They come just when you need them the most.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:14 AM (XxJt1)

257 I still remember my grandmother using the tub with rollers on top you had to manually fill with a hose.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:15 AM (ZCEU2)

258 Might I just throw in...I rarely go more than once a week in saying the following: "I'd like to hang whomever is responsible for regulating the efficiency right out of [insert appliance type]." I'd seriously like to beat them senseless.

/rant

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:15 AM (JoUsr)

259 4 wives = mothers in law, 4 set sets of in laws.,,,

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:15 AM (YOIA1)

260 SanFran @ 253

Thank you.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:16 AM (XxJt1)

261 Mom is mobile. Gotta go before she does something too crazy to fix.

Maybe see you all later on the upcoming threads

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 14, 2019 08:16 AM (Z/jzm)

262 257 and hand crank, no electric involved, Greta would be proud of that.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:16 AM (ZCEU2)

263
"I'd like to hang whomever is responsible for regulating the efficiency right out of [insert appliance type]."

There should be two models of appliances/shower heads/toilets/gas cans: 1) Californian and 2) American.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 08:16 AM (7rVsF)

264 President retweeting Lou Dobbs raising questions about judicial complicity in the coup.

--

Don't tell John Roberts. Since judges are completely non-partisan and all.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:17 AM (JoUsr)

265 Good luck, and blessings, Mlii !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 08:17 AM (JwHjN)

266 I was wondering what everybody was talking about
concerning Hillary's new face. Bad move, looked up the picture. Looks
like a squirrel storing nuts for the winter, with a sinus infection.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 07:44 AM---

Yep she had some work done and it is pretty bad. She ought to get a refund.

Oh and this definitely means she is going to run.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 14, 2019 08:18 AM (JUOKG)

267 re

Posted by: Gordon at December 14, 2019 08:19 AM (FdmjM)

268 Finally light enough to let the cats out.

The eastern horizon is layered in oranges, hot pinks, yellows, blues, and purples like some kind of crazy cake left melting in the rain in the park or something. (My poetic license is powered by only one cup of coffee so far this morning.)

I play the dog (I miss our dog so much!), go out and check around to see if there's any dangers (and scare critters off even if I don't see them). Only critter today was a doe out near the graveyard. Looked at me, but went on grazing. There's probably more than one, but in the dim morning light, I could hardly see the one if it didn't move.

Posted by: mindful webworker - oh deer at December 14, 2019 08:19 AM (s2OJe)

269 "4 wives = mothers in law, 4 set sets of in laws.,,,"

And any man who can handle all of that, you must agree, is one HELL of a man.

My better certainly. Off to the Rocky Mountains to finish my man shed.

Posted by: David Prince at December 14, 2019 08:19 AM (JkygK)

270 A large part of why things break so easily these days is the ROHS (Reduction Of Hazardous Substances) edict out of the EU which has been adopted world wide. ROHS basically means taking the lead out of solder. The lead was in solder for very good reasons; it inhibits the tin from growing tiny whiskers that short electrical components out. ROHS is basically a 'solution' in search of a problem. The lead does not leach out of the solder, and presents essentially no environmental problems.

Aerospace, and military devices are exempt from ROHS because the people who drafted it into being KNEW it would make things unreliable, and they didn't want airplanes falling on cities when they failed and maybe killing them. It was perfectly alright with the bastards that all of your stuff, including your car's electronics fail - maybe killing you.

Of course ROHS chips are all that are being made these days and it is inevitable that some of them will make their way into airplanes and then YeeHa.

Just one more reason to hate leftists.

Posted by: An Observation at December 14, 2019 08:19 AM (hu2aO)

271 saf got a few shout outs in the Art Thread last week.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:19 AM (C+R83)

272 I really miss the Christmas lights I grew up with. People here do not decorate nearly as much as back East.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:07 AM (EZebt)
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Come visit here. I'm married to Clark Griswold.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:20 AM (/669Q)

273 saf got a few shout outs in the Art Thread last week.

+++++

In a good way??

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (YOIA1)

274 Here's the thing, I've known a few judges well, I have written things they have signed. They would be very hard to lie to, successfully, repeatedly.

And if such lie were discovered, it would be like the gates of hell opened.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (EZebt)

275 256 Price wise this may be a good time to buy an appliance. Budgetwise, not so much. House taxes and car registration are due, not to mention the six hundred dollar bill for fixing the guinea pig. And Christmas. Thank dog for minimum required withdrawals on IRAs. They come just when you need them the most.
Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:14 AM (XxJt1)

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Prices on appliances tend to be cyclical, unless it's a special deal, like for Black Friday or closeouts. So if you see a fridge you like, but missed the sale price, it'll likely be back down again soon (that's actually what happened with our fridge. We missed the sale first time around, but caught it again a couple months later).

When we were shopping at for a washer/dryer at Sears way back when, the sales guy told us that, legally, they can't keep the appliances permanently on sale (otherwise it can't be considered a sale), so they rotate which models are on sale each week. And often, there are just minor differences between the models.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (CAJOC)

276 re: Home Depot CEO blames opioids for shoplifting

It ain't the opiods. It's the "cops won't come for, courts won't prosecute, corporate will fire you if you look at them in a mean way" shoplifter crisis.

But you're still responsible for shrink, of course.

Posted by: Gordon at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (FdmjM)

277

Everything these days breaks so easily.

But its good, because our Free Trade Elites make such a good living with this business model.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2019 08:22 AM (38jed)

278 No One of Consequence, re the homeschooling, how old is your son and what are you using now?

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:22 AM (/669Q)

279 President retweeting Lou Dobbs raising questions about judicial complicity in the coup.

--

Don't tell John Roberts. Since judges are completely non-partisan and all.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:17 AM (JoUsr)

I hope the FISA court problems are the beginning of the end for that traitorous piece of shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2019 08:22 AM (y7DUB)

280 Grandma's wringer washer was a high-end model. The rollers were driven by an electric motor. Made it much simpler for the machine to flatten your hand up to the wrist.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:23 AM (XxJt1)

281 vROHS basically means taking the lead out of solder.

Lead Free is a plague on the electronics hobbyist. Horrible stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2019 08:23 AM (38jed)

282 Keep in mind the expression "Get your tit in a wringer" had some no small basis in point of fact. Not pleasant, and dangerous.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 08:24 AM (hptIz)

283 Many made themselves billions screwing and impoverishing the middle class with illusions of free trade. And that's why we have Trump.

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:24 AM (YOIA1)

284 Come visit here. I'm married to Clark Griswold.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:20 AM (/669Q)

===

Do you live next door to Julia Louis Dreyfus?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:25 AM (EZebt)

285 * waves to neighbor creeper *

How's the pig?

Is the neighbor's boy still missing?

Posted by: mindful webworker - oh klaw ho mawn at December 14, 2019 08:25 AM (s2OJe)

286 Prices on appliances tend to be cyclical, unless
it's a special deal, like for Black Friday or closeouts. So if you see a
fridge you like, but missed the sale price, it'll likely be back down
again soon (that's actually what happened with our fridge. We missed
the sale first time around, but caught it again a couple months later).

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (CAJOC)

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During the great Labor Day Appliance Disaster in September (my daughter wrecked both the washer and the dryer), I discovered that the big chains pretty much offer the same deals at the same time. Since I wasn't interesting in waiting a week for installation (and junk removal), I did a search and found a store with the desired models in stock and arranged for pickup.

I then foolishly did removal and installation by myself, while recovering from an illness.

Ended up in the hospital for a couple of days and a month of limited activity while I recovered. Next time, I'll get it delivered.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:26 AM (cfSRQ)

287 273. in an analytical way, I think.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:26 AM (C+R83)

288 One thing about that FISA post confuses me. Just what is a "FISA attorney"?

It seems to me Trump was hinting at corruption among the judges as much as the attorneys.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:27 AM (XxJt1)

289 It seems to me Trump was hinting at corruption among the judges as much as the attorneys.
Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:27 AM (XxJt1)

yes

Posted by: not so at December 14, 2019 08:27 AM (HALdu)

290 Do you live next door to Julia Louis Dreyfus?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:25 AM (EZebt)
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No, sorry. She lives in Wyoming these days.

Seriously, there are still some neighborhoods here that go all out. The lights must convey with the houses when they get sold.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:27 AM (/669Q)

291 Used a wringer-washtub once - I was a kid, family was camping up in rustic Oregon, for no reason I can fathom. Cabin even had an ice box. Yes, the ice man brought it 'round.

One does not want to get anything caught in the wringer. The very thought of "tit in a wringer" makes my girl-tits hurt and I don't even have them.

Posted by: mindful webworker - clean living at December 14, 2019 08:28 AM (s2OJe)

292 Virginia's Adjutant General has to put out a statement telling the troops to calm down, no one from the governor's office has contacted them about law enforcement.

Also noted their respect for the Second Amendment.

Your move, Gov. Blackface.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:28 AM (cfSRQ)

293 Made comment last night about FISA judges possibly being in cahoots with the FBI.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:28 AM (ZCEU2)

294

Is everybody smelling like DOWNY now ?

......Robert Downey!!!!

Posted by: saf at December 14, 2019 08:30 AM (5IHGB)

295 The eastern horizon is layered in oranges, hot pinks, yellows, blues,
and purples like some kind of crazy cake left melting in the rain in the
park or something. (My poetic license is powered by only one cup of
coffee so far this morning.)
I don't think that I can take itcuz it took so long to bake itand I'll never have that recipe again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2019 08:30 AM (DAWCP)

296 I then foolishly did removal and installation by myself, while recovering from an illness.

++++

OH MY!

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:30 AM (YOIA1)

297 The FISA court knows it works for the FBI.

And I'm sure there are Hawaiian judges on the FISA court, as well.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (38jed)

298
Made comment last night about FISA judges possibly being in cahoots with the FBI.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:28 AM (ZCEU2)

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Well, we know that at least one judge was compromised - the one originally assigned to Flynn. Remember him?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (cfSRQ)

299 "fuck Lowes"

I know an appliance store owner in Madison, SD. She employs several repair guys, and makes a ton repairing the crap appliances Lowes sells. She sells ones that last.

What Lowes and HD do is tell the maker, "I need a washer that does X at the $699 price point." So they build one that they can sell to big box and still make a profit. If they have to use cardboard instead of metal for a key part, or very very thin metal tubing, they will, because they farm out repairs. Repair is a fixed cost. And since you will need to buy another in a few years, well, ching ching.

It's the same thing with a vacuum from Walmart. You cannot trust anything under $200, and maybe not some above that.

Posted by: Gordon at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (FdmjM)

300 I figured the judges are in on it a while back. Just shut down the FISA court and start jailing these fuckers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (naIlL)

301 It ain't the opiods. It's the "cops won't come for, courts won't prosecute, corporate will fire you if you look at them in a mean way" shoplifter crisis.

But you're still responsible for shrink, of course.
Posted by: Gordon at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (FdmjM)

90% of what happens wrong in society happens because we let it happen. That is, in short, we've lost confidence in our norms and mores and the will to enforce them.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (H8QX8)

302 210 I decided a long time ago that saf was a possibly misguided but generous soul who just thought that all of us squares needed more surrealism and/or Dada in our lives ... that said, I don't see how the occasional backhand could be seen as anything other than valid artistic criticism, especially an ordinary backhand, without any windup or applied English.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:49 AM (JwHjN)
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I think saf must be an Imp from the Collective Id, tripping out on the ghosts of LSD trips past.

Posted by: Cardinal Eris (weapons: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope) at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (Dc2NZ)

303 Bloomberg released a 100% clean power plan Friday to
replace the nations remaining 251 coal plants with clean electricity
and stop the construction of new gas plants to achieve 80% clean
electricity by 2028.

Gas is 35% of US output

Coal is 27% of US Output

So in 19 years he wants to replace 62% of current capabilities. And he is a genius??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 06:35 AM (JFO2v)

He's so smart he knows that Xi Jinping isn't a dictator and has to answer to his constituents. He's sooooo smart that he can see the world as he wants to see it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2019 08:32 AM (7O2sI)

304 I was wondering about that VA threat to send the NG. What if NG just says: No.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:32 AM (C+R83)

305 It's just beginning to get light out here. Hoping for some sun today. Winter storm supposed to hit Sunday night/Monday morning. There was a terrible wreck on the highway by where I work. Motorcycle vs car. Dude on the bike died and I've been bummed ever since. I drove by the wreck on my way home and his bike was in a million pieces. Horrible.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 08:32 AM (dUJdY)

306 Hay, mindful!

The pigling is with my sister in Iowa. A wonderful exotic animal vet there is treating him for osteomyelitis...a deep bone infection. He was wasting away and this was beyond my local vet. He'll stay with Sis for a few more weeks.

My friend's son has never been found. She seems to be at peace with it, but she's also dealing with her mother, whose Alzheimer's has progressed to the point where she doesn't know her own daughter. I don't know what keeps her sane.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:33 AM (XxJt1)

307
Lead Free is a plague on the electronics hobbyist. Horrible stuff.
Yes it is.
When I was an engineer at NASA 10 years ago it was already hard to find 60-40 solder and non ROHS chips. I wonder how much ROHS crap is flying over head now.

Posted by: An Observation at December 14, 2019 08:34 AM (hu2aO)

308 It's the same thing with a vacuum from Walmart. You cannot trust anything under $200, and maybe not some above that.

We bought ours at a local vaccum place. Going on 12 years and it runs like a charm.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 08:34 AM (dUJdY)

309 Oh Jewells, that's horrible. Poor guy. I always get nervous when I see motorcyclists, especially when they weave in and out. Roads are so crowded here.

Although I don't see nearly as many as I used to, except around Memorial Day (because of Rolling Thunder).

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:35 AM (/669Q)

310 It is not that stuff breaks so easily, it is that it is non-repairable. That is a function of non-American made crap.
I used to rebuild starters and alternators. Cannot do that anymore. The new hi torque starters are big bucks also.

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2019 08:35 AM (5nEDe)

311 Can't wait to hear the "media" get the vapors over the suggestion that judges (pbut) can't be corrupted, and that they are as pure as the driven snow. The only part is, how would one actually prove the corruption? That would be a hard one, I'd think.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:35 AM (JoUsr)

312 Have you ever seen the movie "Used Cars" ?
Posted by: JT at December 14, 2019 06:32 AM (arJlL

Yes. Repeatedly. A guilty pleasure.

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 14, 2019 08:35 AM (OFz7E)

313 Bloomberg released a 100% clean power plan Friday to
replace the nations remaining 251 coal plants with clean electricity
and stop the construction of new gas plants to achieve 80% clean
electricity by 2028.

You wouldn't even get a first-draft environmental report on ONE of those plants done by 2028.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2019 08:35 AM (38jed)

314 302 210 I decided a long time ago that saf was a possibly misguided but generous soul who just thought that all of us squares needed more surrealism and/or Dada in our lives ... that said, I don't see how the occasional backhand could be seen as anything other than valid artistic criticism, especially an ordinary backhand, without any windup or applied English.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 14, 2019 07:49 AM (JwHjN)
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I think saf must be an Imp from the Collective Id, tripping out on the ghosts of LSD trips past.
Posted by: Cardinal Eris (weapons: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope) at December 14, 2019 08:31 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Too much coffee.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:36 AM (EZebt)

315 Tom Servo: ...I don't think that I can take itcuz it took so long to bake it and I'll never have that recipe again.

♪ Oh nooooooo. Oh-oh noo-ooooooo. ♪

The song itself was horrible enough. But it was like the AM radio DJ playing Jose Feleciano's Light My Fire when you ached to hear the Doors (long version). The park song we wanted to hear was Itchycoo.

You wanted: Itchycoo Park
You'd settle for: McArthur's Park
You get: Ft Marcy Park

Posted by: mindful webworker - It's all too beautifullllll at December 14, 2019 08:37 AM (s2OJe)

316 283 Many made themselves billions screwing and impoverishing the middle class with illusions of free trade. And that's why we have Trump.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:24 AM (YOIA1)

There really is no Free Trade with countries like China and Russia. You must assume they will manipulate currency, cheat, and steal. They also have no problem using slave type labor.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 08:37 AM (JFO2v)

317 Bluebell, I was driving last night in the north woods of western Wisconsin. Way out there, county road. In the middle of nowhere, on a road that sees maybe 200 cars a day, a house that would make Clark Griswold feel humble. Amazing lights, and almost no one sees them.

But I bet the folks on the space station can, and passing airliners....

Posted by: Gordon at December 14, 2019 08:37 AM (FdmjM)

318 144ci Iron Duke, under 80 hp.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 14, 2019 06:34 AM (C1Lsn)

Can you say "Vega"?.....

Posted by: BignJames at December 14, 2019 08:37 AM (X/Pw5)

319 Greetings fappers and fappees.
No fresh hell today, it's taking this weekend off.Time for a second cuppa covfefe.

B'Gal insisted I get her a bottle of Bailey's last night (she's had maybe 5 drinks in the past 10 years). She was very happy by the time she got down to the pink elephants in the bottom of the glass. That was good to see.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (HaL55)

320
Brads Appliance repair. Sheboygan area. Excellent independent shop. Really knows his stuff.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 14, 2019 07:58 AM (7ZQe3)

Yes, independent shops are the way to go. We have Kenwhirl near me and they are awesome.
No, he will say, not that, it has been this part in the past. Bingo

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (5nEDe)

321 278 No One of Consequence, re the homeschooling, how old is your son and what are you using now?
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:22 AM (/669Q)

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My son just turned 15, and is doing 9th grade work. We're using Acellus Power Homeschool. Pre-recorded online video lessons. Math isn't bad, but other courses, quality is inconsistent, and they seem to jump around alot.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (CAJOC)

322 re: Home Depot CEO blames opioids for shoplifting

It ain't the opiods. It's the "cops won't come for, courts won't
prosecute, corporate will fire you if you look at them in a mean way"
shoplifter crisis.

But you're still responsible for shrink, of course.

Posted by: Gordon at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (FdmjM)

Kim Foxx of Jussie Smollett fame has said that they won't touch anyone who shoplifts under $1,000 because arresting people for shoplifting is racist and stuff. What's really weird is that shoplifting has soared in Crook County. /s

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (7O2sI)

323 Bloomberg is a nannystater nutjob completely removed from needs and wants of middle class. He has a messy personal life and is short is stature. He will never be president.

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:39 AM (YOIA1)

324 I was wondering about that VA threat to send the NG. What if NG just says: No.
President is commander in chief of the military - which includes the NG if it is activated.
If they do activate the NG - that act will be the 'firing on Fort Sumter' moment for Civil War II.

Posted by: An Observation at December 14, 2019 08:39 AM (hu2aO)

325 In stature

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:39 AM (YOIA1)

326 And the next car they test is some 12 cylinder luxury sports car on a closed track and telling us how great a 250 thousand dollar car is so great.
Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

Let me guess: you've been reading the hypocritical Wall Street Journal car guy,

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (OFz7E)

327 Gordon, that's awesome! I bet you're right about people seeing them from the air. The guy probably does it because it makes him happy to see it, so it's definitely worth doing.

I know we would still decorate for Christmas even if we lived in the middle of nowhere.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (/669Q)

328 161 Saw Ford v. Ferrari last week. Lots of tense gear-shifting shots in the movie. Now I'm wondering: do race cars work the same as regular manual transmissions? Clutch in, shift, clutch out? Seemed like they were doing it much faster in the movie. Anybody know?
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2019 07:20 AM (urZJh)

Yes, essentially the same.

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (5nEDe)

329 Jewells, I'm sorry you had to see that. Those images stay with you forever.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (XxJt1)

330 There really is no Free Trade with countries like China and Russia. You must assume they will manipulate currency, cheat, and steal. They also have no problem using slave type labor.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Absolutely

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (YOIA1)

331 304
I was wondering about that VA threat to send the NG. What if NG just says: No.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:32 AM (C+R83)

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This is a function of the progressive alienation from the military caste.

They assume that people who sign up are stupid and mindlessly obedient and will do as they say. There are a number of very political flag officers who support this view.

And that's how you get sailors who don't know how to steer.

Look at Boot Edge. The guy did a stint in the Naval Reserve interpreting photos and playing with Power Point. They treat him like Audie Murphy because he spent 7 months behind the wire in a SCIF. (Oooh, sometimes he drove to Kabul!)

They are playing with fire but are too stupid to figure it out.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (cfSRQ)

332 264 President retweeting Lou Dobbs raising questions about judicial complicity in the coup.

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Don't tell John Roberts. Since judges are completely non-partisan and all.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:17 AM (JoUsr)

PDT has the goods on the judges. I hope he needs my help cleaning up.

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2019 08:42 AM (5nEDe)

333 90% of what happens wrong in society happens because we let it happen.
That is, in short, we've lost confidence in our norms and mores and the
will to enforce them.

Back when we actually enforced laws, only the criminal was punished. These days, progressives will punish everybody instead. What good is power if you can't exercise it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 08:42 AM (HaL55)

334 Mooch's Mirror this morning has a post up of Boris Johnson. It's a collection of "resisters" that are the exact carbon copy of assorted dopes, sheep, lemmings, and nutjobs over here that "resist" Donald Trump. Exact same signage, including mass produced ones. Exact same charges levied against him (rayciss, of course; anti-gay, of course). Exact same blow up balloon of cartoon Johnson. They are predictable, if nothing else.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:43 AM (JoUsr)

335
Brads Appliance repair. Sheboygan area. Excellent independent shop. Really knows his stuff.

Posted by: Pete Seria

You had a washing machine. You called it Brad.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 08:43 AM (7rVsF)

336 Those images stay with you forever.

I know.. and I was thinking here it is right before Christmas. Someone just lost their son.. father..husband. That is a horrible area. I turn at that intersection every day to get to my job. I hate it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 08:44 AM (dUJdY)

337 South Philly used to be a Lightapalooza at Christmastime. So fun!! Then the hipsters came.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:45 AM (C+R83)

338 335
Brads Appliance repair. Sheboygan area. Excellent independent shop. Really knows his stuff.

Posted by: Pete Seria

You had a washing machine. You called it Brad.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2019 08:43 AM (7rVsF)

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It became sentient, and dedicated its life to repairing its less fortunate brethren.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:45 AM (CAJOC)

339 President is commander in chief of the military - which includes the NG if it is activated.
If they do activate the NG - that act will be the 'firing on Fort Sumter' moment for Civil War II.

Posted by: An Observation at December 14, 2019 08:39 AM (hu2aO)

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Not necessarily.

If the VA NG is activated for state active duty, the first thing to keep in mind that VA would be paying for it.

I wish to emphasize that this would be an enormous expense. Most NG duty is Title 32, which is state training duty paid for by the feds. State Active Duty is all on your home state and it adds up quickly. Michigan saw this with the Flint water crisis.

The next thing is that as C-in-C Trump can simply federalize them and order them to remain in place.

In every prior clash between state and federal mandate, federal won. See also: Civil Rights movement.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:45 AM (cfSRQ)

340 All in all we have gone to big box stores that do all looking for appliance but then go to a small appliance store that service is outstanding and price is equal.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:46 AM (ZCEU2)

341 My son just turned 15, and is doing 9th grade work. We're using Acellus Power Homeschool. Pre-recorded online video lessons. Math isn't bad, but other courses, quality is inconsistent, and they seem to jump around alot.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (CAJOC)
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Are you strictly looking for online video programs? I don't have much experience with those, I'm afraid. We used a few of A Beka's which are good but the kids were bored watching those videos. Maybe they've redone them by now - that was years ago.

If you're open to things besides video lessons, Sonlight Curriculum has a lot of great options.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:46 AM (/669Q)

342 I hate it.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 08:44 AM (dUJdY)

Sold mine years ago after a guy I knew died on one. Had a couple lucky breaks myself - should have sold it sooner.

I miss it now and then - but I'll never get back on one.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 08:47 AM (oAXUX)

343 creeper, sorry to hear about the piglet. And the neighbor - sad *2.

Just remembered that we're coming up on the first anniversary of the suicide of my oldest friend's youngest son.

Christmastime, right?

Posted by: mindful webworker - my mama allus tol' me, merry is as merry does at December 14, 2019 08:47 AM (s2OJe)

344 Exact same blow up balloon of cartoon Johnson. They are predictable, if nothing else.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:43 AM (JoUsr)

Do they have a huge baby balloon of Johnson, like the Trump one, that they use to mock him as juvenile while they're pitching shameless public foot-stamping screaming tantrums? They should.

Maybe the two could be friends.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 08:47 AM (t+qrx)

345 Said up above using the NG is rumor and bullshit.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:47 AM (ZCEU2)

346 Many made themselves billions screwing and impoverishing the middle
class with illusions of free trade. And that's why we have Trump.

This is true. I am living proof.

There really is no Free Trade with countries like China and Russia. You
must assume they will manipulate currency, cheat, and steal. They also
have no problem using slave type labor.

One thing that was never reported back during the "giant sucking sound" era of jobs leaving our shores was that China was subsidizing all those new manufacturing jobs that used to be here. Make no doubt that was a political move since most of the middle class was beginning to support Republicans instead of progressives.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 14, 2019 08:48 AM (HaL55)

347 Riding a motorcycle in modern traffic is a gamble you will eventually lose.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 08:48 AM (H8QX8)

348 Look at Boot Edge.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM (cfSRQ)
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I saw a car yesterday that had a square sticker on the back that said:

Boot
Edge
Edge

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:49 AM (/669Q)

349 Elec Generation 1000 Mwatt Hours
Solar 63,825
Wind 272,650

Total 336,475

Growth needed to replace coal:
400%

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 08:50 AM (JFO2v)

350 Riding a motorcycle in modern traffic is a gamble you will eventually lose.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

Scary thought. Many motorcycle enthusiasts out there.

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:50 AM (YOIA1)

351 Jewells, when I drove to Iowa in October I was held up for two hours by a triple fatality accident. Cops were chasing a guy in a pickup. He crossed the median into the oncoming lanes and hit an elderly couple head on. All three were killed.

Interestingly, the Missouri Highway Patrol removed that couple's car immediately. There was no trace of it or them. But the pickup was still in the median two hours later, with tarps draped over the windows.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:51 AM (XxJt1)

352 341 My son just turned 15, and is doing 9th grade work. We're using Acellus Power Homeschool. Pre-recorded online video lessons. Math isn't bad, but other courses, quality is inconsistent, and they seem to jump around alot.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (CAJOC)
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Are you strictly looking for online video programs? I don't have much experience with those, I'm afraid. We used a few of A Beka's which are good but the kids were bored watching those videos. Maybe they've redone them by now - that was years ago.

If you're open to things besides video lessons, Sonlight Curriculum has a lot of great options.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:46 AM (/669Q)

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 14, 2019 08:51 AM (CAJOC)

353 Well.. gotta get busy. See ya on the pet thread hopefully. Have a great day all!

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 14, 2019 08:52 AM (dUJdY)

354
Said up above using the NG is rumor and bullshit.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:47 AM (ZCEU2)

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It clearly wasn't a rumor since a legislator openly advocated it.

It also raised enough noise in the ranks that the TAG had to address it.

I think it's illustrative of the manifest incompetence on the part of Dem politicians.

Historically speaking, the surest way to precipitate a coup against yourself is to order troops to do something they don't want to do. (Screwing up their pay is also a big winner.)

We're up against the anniversary of the Romanian Revolution against Ceaucescu. He made that mistake, ordering his conscripts to fire on civilians. They refused and ol' Nicolai found himself against a wall.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:52 AM (cfSRQ)

355 257 I still remember my grandmother using the tub with rollers on top you had to manually fill with a hose.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:15 AM (ZCEU2)

Er, in my case, that was Mom.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 08:52 AM (OFz7E)

356 The beer n bait Hot Point fridge in my garage was manufactured in 1954. Other than a replacement compressor in 1967 the bugger is still working.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (WQZ1O)

357 Exact same blow up balloon of cartoon Johnson. They are predictable, if nothing else.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:43 AM (JoUsr)

What the leftists in the UK are going to find out (the few quasi intelligent ones are already finding it out, to their chagrin) is that it sucks to have a government that is controlled by One political body (Parliament) with no checks and balances whatsoever. If Boris decides he wants to be rid of that ridiculous "Supreme Court" that Tony Blair created, all he needs is one vote from his super-majority in Parliament and that court is abolished.
one of the best things Boris was able to do was not just destroy the Labour Party, but he was also able to flush all of the conservative "remainers" (much in common with our own Never Trumpers) out of his own party. The left may WANT to resist, but this election gave Boris 100% Control over *all* of the government for 5 long years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (DAWCP)

358 Rule of thumb these days is expect your appliance to last in years, the number of hundreds of dollars you paid.

600 = 6 years

Posted by: ... at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (7HyDs)

359 Lloyd your right not rumor but as I did write way up wishful thinking by a Leftist representative.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (ZCEU2)

360 69 He's one of 7 siblings. I believe that only two of them aren't batshit crazy. Hubby being one of them.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
The other 5 think those 2 are crazy

Ha ! I have the exact problem in reverse. My Bride of 35+ years looks at my Parents and 2 older Sisters and SWEARS I had to have been Adopted....

Posted by: TxMarko at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (Pw3eY)

361 "I think it's illustrative of the manifest incompetence on the part of Dem politicians."

Incompetence, but also a simple expression of their wishes.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (H8QX8)

362 Good morning all. Happy "we still barely have a republic" Saturday. Good on the brits for lashing back and ending EU!

Posted by: AnnaS at December 14, 2019 08:54 AM (l4l/z)

363 Elec Generation 1000 Mwatt Hours

Solar 63,825

Wind 272,650

Total 336,475

Growth needed to replace coal:

400%

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 08:50 AM (JFO2v)

I'm sure that Bloomie, Greta, AlGore, DiCrapprio and all of the rest of the experts can click their heels together and magically make it happen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (7O2sI)

364 Was supposed to do a Christmassy thing in Fairmount Park today but my friend cancelled. Switch to Plan B: make White Chicken Chili.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (C+R83)

365 Trailer's loaded and we are off to peddle our wares at the craft show. see yall later

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (Tnijr)

366 264 President retweeting Lou Dobbs raising questions about judicial complicity in the coup.
Don't tell John Roberts. Since judges are completely non-partisan and all.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2019 08:17 AM (JoUsr)

Word is that 99.8% of FISA warrant request are granted. I don't think it's just to get Trump; I think the FISA system is ridiculous.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (OFz7E)

367 Switch to Plan B: make White Chicken Chili.
Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (C+R83)

I like plan B. Especiallly if tomatillos and salsa verde are on the checklist.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 08:56 AM (t+qrx)

368 That sounds delicious, kallisto.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 08:56 AM (/669Q)

369 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:45 AM (cfSRQ)

Until there is a Democrat President, right?

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2019 08:56 AM (5nEDe)

370 Um...in my case that would be me. I was washing dishes and clothes by the time I was five. Do kids do any of that these days?

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:57 AM (XxJt1)

371 And that's how you get sailors who don't know how to steer.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:40 AM

I would argue that they (and therefore we) have lost the star to steer her by.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 14, 2019 08:57 AM (DMUuz)

372 Switch to Plan B: make White Chicken Chili.

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (C+R83)

Using turkey here.

Posted by: BignJames at December 14, 2019 08:57 AM (X/Pw5)

373 We're up against the anniversary of the Romanian Revolution against Ceaucescu. He made that mistake, ordering his conscripts to fire on civilians. They refused and ol' Nicolai found himself against a wall.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2019 08:52 AM (cfSRQ)

That's the $64,000 question - what are the troops willing to do ? I don't know, and nobody here knows either. I don't trust the assurances that they're mostly on "our side", especially since those assurances seem to always come from the same mouths that are constantly so positive that everything will work out just fine, all on their own, with nary a finger lifted.

Bet your ass the Pentagon is keenly interested in that answer - and we do know they're willing to take on the citizenry. They've publicly indicated as much in their full-throated support of globalism.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 08:57 AM (oAXUX)

374 Washer wouldn't agitate like antifa at a Trump ralley.

bought tranny/clutch

it was clutch. just busted

replaced both parts....high mileage kenmore/no stupid circuit board like last one

works fine

Posted by: torabora at December 14, 2019 08:58 AM (Y274z)

375 274 Here's the thing, I've known a few judges well, I have written things they have signed. They would be very hard to lie to, successfully, repeatedly.

And if such lie were discovered, it would be like the gates of hell opened.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2019 08:21 AM (EZebt)

Do you have an opinion about what going on with the FISA court judges?

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 08:58 AM (OFz7E)

376 Late to the party, speaking of Lowes, we have not had a kitchen since it was demolished June of 2017!! In litigation, etc. but I am sure I am not the only one...

Posted by: Georgia Jarhead at December 14, 2019 08:58 AM (L1dpC)

377 Um...in my case that would be me. I was washing dishes and clothes by the time I was five. Do kids do any of that these days?
Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 08:57 AM (XxJt1)

Ummmmmmm......No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 14, 2019 08:59 AM (Z+IKu)

378 We can't possibly be stupider than the Brits, can we? Trump 2020 ... and beyond!

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 08:59 AM (YOIA1)

379 kallisto- good idea, weather looks crappy

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 08:59 AM (ZCEU2)

380 I've got a grumpy wisdom-toothless teenager here so I am going to escape and take a shower. Have a great day, everyone.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2019 09:00 AM (/669Q)

381 Switch to Plan B: make White Chicken Chili.
Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM

We're standing by!

Posted by: White carrots at December 14, 2019 09:01 AM (DMUuz)

382 NOOD NOOD NOOD !

Posted by: runner at December 14, 2019 09:01 AM (YOIA1)

383 Have a good day, bluebell.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 14, 2019 09:01 AM (t+qrx)

384 Refill your coffee cups and head on over to the next thread because you know how it is.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=384760

Posted by: mindful webworker - yee & haw at December 14, 2019 09:01 AM (s2OJe)

385 282 Keep in mind the expression "Get your tit in a wringer" had some no small basis in point of fact. Not pleasant, and dangerous.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2019 08:24 AM (hptIz)

Yes, that and the hand caught in the wringe (I did that) led to some safety mechanisms, like a spring loaded release if something too large got in the wringer.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 09:02 AM (OFz7E)

386 Only hope is since being a FISA judge is super top secret and if so can't do anything publicly behind the scene McCabe is hanging by his toes literally every weekend.

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 09:02 AM (ZCEU2)

387 Word is that 99.8% of FISA warrant request are
granted. I don't think it's just to get Trump; I think the FISA system
is ridiculous.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 08:55 AM (OFz7E)
********************
And yet the FBI would not allow Colleen Rowley in Minneapolis to seek a warrant to find out why Saudi flight students had no interest in learning to take off or land a plane...only to fly it where they wanted to go.

Posted by: creeper at December 14, 2019 09:02 AM (XxJt1)

388 something to think about

Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos had been spied upon even before he joined the campaign. He had been working with the Ben Carson campaign.

This leads to the obvious question, Was the FBI involved in surveilling the campaign members of Trumps rivals?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 09:02 AM (JFO2v)

389 367. They are now! '+++++368. bluebell- AFAIC winter's only redeeming qualities are Christmas season, and the opportunity to make comfort food!

Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2019 09:03 AM (C+R83)

390 Bet your ass the Pentagon is keenly interested in that answer - and we do know they're willing to take on the citizenry. They've publicly indicated as much in their full-throated support of globalism.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 08:57 AM (oAXUX)

That's what Ogabe's purge was for.

Posted by: clutch at December 14, 2019 09:06 AM (5nEDe)

391 Bet your ass the Pentagon is keenly interested in that answer - and we
do know they're willing to take on the citizenry. They've publicly
indicated as much in their full-throated support of globalism.

According to a retired Marine Corps Sergeant Major I talked to who was stationed at the Pentagon at the time - the first question that Obama asked the Joint Chiefs of Staff was "Is the military ready to follow my orders to fight the American people?" The Commandant of the Marine Corps replied "Sir, that would be an illegal order, and none of my Marines would obey it." Obama relieved him of command on the spot.
While the Commandant being relieved was in the news - it was not said why he was relieved.

Posted by: An Observation at December 14, 2019 09:07 AM (hu2aO)

392 This leads to the obvious question, Was the FBI involved in surveilling the campaign members of Trumps rivals?
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2019 09:02 AM (JFO2v)

Obamao Admin spied on everybody for years.

He made Nixon, if he did everything he was accused of, a Boy Scout.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 14, 2019 09:08 AM (1g7ch)

393 Kim Foxx of Jussie Smollett fame has said that they won't touch anyone who shoplifts under $1,000 because arresting people for shoplifting is racist and stuff. What's really weird is that shoplifting has soared in Crook County. /s
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2019 08:38 AM (7O2sI)

I'm so done with Chicago and Cook County. Left in 2003. Shops will have to end self-service shopping.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 09:10 AM (OFz7E)

394 161 Saw Ford v. Ferrari last week. Lots of tense gear-shifting shots in the movie. Now I'm wondering: do race cars work the same as regular manual transmissions? Clutch in, shift, clutch out? Seemed like they were doing it much faster in the movie. Anybody know?�
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2019 07:20 AM (urZJh)

*********

Depends on the race. Drag strip racers use a 2 speed manual so they only essentially shift once.�

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2019 09:13 AM (flINI)

395 Yet they say in a F-1 race the transmission goes through maybe 4 thousand shift changes

Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2019 09:16 AM (ZCEU2)

396 Sold mine years ago after a guy I knew died on one. Had a couple lucky breaks myself - should have sold it sooner.

I miss it now and then - but I'll never get back on one.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 14, 2019 08:47 AM (oAXUX)

It was how I quit smoking; read about all the bad things it does. For instance, I read that most 'cycle accidents are caused by a driving making a left turn in front of you because he didn't see you. I quit riding. I miss it now and then, too.

Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 14, 2019 09:19 AM (OFz7E)

397 *Last*

Posted by: TxMarko at December 14, 2019 10:03 AM (Pw3eY)

398 Our washer gave out this fall and we spent quite a bit of time doing research. We bought a Speed Queen. Built like a tank...stainless steel parts and built in Wisconsin. More money, but well worth it and not all plastic like the other pieces of garbage out there on the market

Posted by: ERF at December 14, 2019 12:15 PM (NxG7K)

399 I will NEVER buy the Green New Deal-ordered crappy no-agitator washers that are the only items for sale nowadays. Find a good specialized appliance store that specializes in restoration of pre-Green New Deal-era mandated "water saving" devices that force you to wash twice in most cases. You'll be glad you did!

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at December 14, 2019 03:18 PM (SH7Tr)

400 Our kitchen appliances are 30 years old and most parts aren't available for them. The washer and dryer are about 38 years old. They're all Maytag except the fridge which is a Frigidaire.

The 30 year old furnace developed a combustion chamber leak and was just replaced. Water heater is probably 25 years old.

Other than the double oven, there's no digital controls... they're all mechanical - the digital stuff seems to be expensive to repair and not as reliable as the mechanical things.

Building a house next year - maybe. Quite scary knowing that the current appliances won't have the reliability and serviceability of my old stuff did when it was new. It seems the newer they are, the faster they fail.

I agree with the Speed Queen laundry appliances. Wife is looking at Bosch for kitchen appliances.

Posted by: Bob at December 14, 2019 10:07 PM (Xf5j9)

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