Tucker Carlson Obliterates Free Beacon Funder & Possible FusionGPS Paymaster Paul Singer, as Well As His Owned-and-Operated Pet Senator Ben Sasse

This is an important story. Both video and a transcript at the link.

Definitely watch until the very end, where Tucker Carlson lays into Ben Sasse, one of Paul Singer's wholly-owned subsidiaries, for refusing to make any comment whatsoever -- or even respond to inquiries from Carlson -- about his views about Paul Singer's destruction of a town in the state Sasse allegedly represents.

Here's a Fox news print story about the topic.

People like Paul Singer control the GOP and are effectively in a conspiracy against actual GOP voters. When Singer's kid announced he was gay, Paul Singer basically mandated that the GOP become pro-gay marriage, and the GOP complied.

Another billionaire funder, Stanley Hubbard, told, in 2016, his own pet candidate Scott Walker that he must not question the Corporate Class Consensus on birthright citizenship and high levels of tolerated, supposedly illegal immigration.

Hubbard issued his rebuke, and Walker changed his tune to sing the Corporate Class anthem within a day.

Tuesday: Stanley Hubbard, a conservative billionaire who oversees a Minnesota broadcasting company and has donated to Walker's campaign, confronts Walker on the issue during a lunch in Minnesota. Hubbard strongly opposes ending birthright citizenship, and he tells The Washington Post that he "might really quickly change my allegiance" if Walker pushs for such a repeal. Hubbard says he "did not get a real straight answer" from the candidate, but he comes away ready to write more checks to help Walker, adding, "I got the feeling that he is not at all anxious to talk about taking away those rights."

A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for propagandists for monied interests. You know how AEI "chairs" work? Specific billionaires fund specific "chairs" and give them to specific propagandists posing as "journalists."

And do those "journalists" ever take a strong position contrary to their Wealthy Patrons' wishes? Not very often!

These "journalists" refuse to disclose who it is who is funding them, and do not make the routine sort of basic-hygiene disclosures when writing about issues that are of paramount importance to the people bribing them.

This is both a secret, and not a secret. It's not a secret in the sense that anyone who cares to know about this stuff knows about it, but it is a secret in that we're not supposed to talk about it, because the "conservative journalists" secretly on the Koch Industries payroll consider it out-of-bounds to expose their grift.

Well, we might have to start talking about it.

Meanwhile, Paul Singer calls the shots in the GOP. If you ever wonder why the GOP supports so many unpopular positions with incredible zeal and passion (such as vulture capitalism), and why the GOP runs away from some popular issues like border enforcement, and why the GOP takes the Democrat side on issues which are 50/50 (gay stuff, abortion), it's because very rich liberals like Paul Singer, who have no interest in the GOP or conservatism except to pervert it into a tool to help put more money into their pockets,, have willed it so, and all of our chickenshit "representatives" can't quit that sweet, sweet plutocrat money.

Pretty much, whenever the GOP is acting in what appears to be an inexplicably stupid or traitorous way, the reason is that, of course, they're being paid to act that way, and they of course can't admit that publicly.

It's time to take this trash out.

The Corporate Class is always attacking populists for their savage and ignorant notion that people should decide their own political fates based upon openly-available information. The Corporate Class considers this, rightly, to be a challenge to their very secret, hidden-from-view control over the country's politics, and so slander their rivals as racist, antisemitic, etc.

For those against "populism," who abhor the prospect of being ruled over by brutish common citizens -- well, our nation's politics are either going to be decided by savage, brutish common citizens or by plutocrats like Paul Singer.

Maybe it's time for the so-called anti-populists to stop talking about what they oppose and start being honest about what they champion (because they're paid to champion it): Perpetual secret rule by a socially-liberal, corporately archlibertarian billionaire elite.

Because that's the only alternative to populism, and that's what populism opposes.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:18 PM

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1 ?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 04, 2019 01:18 PM (ECrgQ)

2 st?

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 04, 2019 01:18 PM (aS1PU)

3 Nooded the others.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 04, 2019 01:19 PM (ECrgQ)

4 Ben Sasse sucking cocks for dollars?

I'll never believe it. never.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 01:19 PM (XtZ7c)

5 Well, I never!

Posted by: Professor of Ethics William Kristol at December 04, 2019 01:20 PM (IttZ7)

6 I watched that.. Tucker was "animated" on the subject to say the least.... Hope he has armed protection

Posted by: It's me donna at December 04, 2019 01:20 PM (6XlcD)

7 He who pays the piper calls the tune.

I heard that somewhere once.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2019 01:20 PM (Y4EXg)

8 Tie a 100 on some hangdown and go fishing

catch a big mouth Sasse

Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:21 PM (rpxSz)

9 Sounds like a local story

Posted by: Charles Gibson at December 04, 2019 01:21 PM (flINI)

10 >>A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for propagandists for monied interests.

AHOY!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at December 04, 2019 01:21 PM (XtZ7c)

11 It's failure theater all the way down.

Posted by: Max Power at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (q177U)

12 To shreds you say?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (KUaJL)

13 Fucking parasites.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (6gb7G)

14 it's because very rich liberals like Paul Singer, who have no interest in the GOP or conservatism except to pervert it into a tool to help put more money into their pockets,, have willed it so, and all of our chickenshit "representatives" can't quit that sweet, sweet corporate money.

It almost makes you want to pull for a Warren win.

Well, not really since Warren is as much on the take as the others but, a 5% annual wealth tax above 100 million net worth would pucker a few suntanned assholes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (yQpMk)

15 >>A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for propagandists for monied interests.

********

Bitch! You cookin'?

Posted by: Matt Drudge at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (flINI)

16 >>A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for

Not that I can afford it, but what's the going rate for 3-4 minutes with Sara Carter?

Posted by: Bill Kristol at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (XtZ7c)

17 Ace, are you suggesting that True Cons are two dollar whores?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (yRAFu)

18 chickenshit is 100% the right word

Posted by: x at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (nFwvY)

19 same as in town

Posted by: Just the Punchline at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (yQpMk)

20 That was a helluva segment and Tucker went out of his way to end with "and by the way, Sasse is a kept man." I don't usually watch Tucker, but oddly enough did watch last night.

Singer is one of the various Soroses on the "other" side. Like Soros, never supposed to say his name.

I hope Tucker bought a steel door and laminated glass windows.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (I2dne)

21 Of course they think we're the trash.

I'd go with self-selection and Trump induced die-off til the majority is more stable.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (FhXTo)

22 George Washington would slap Nadless' fat face.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (vGJY7)

23 "It's time to take this trash out."

here here. But how? What's the game plan to do that?

Posted by: dj3way at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (bhPL1)

24 SHOW ME THE MONEY!

And I'll show you corruption.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (pZK/l)

25 Remember, news is what your editor says it is unless he is corrected by the owner.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (yRAFu)

26 Those leather boardroom chairs with the brass plates on the back ain't cheap, brother.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for All Your Festival of Gloom Decorations! at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

27 Well, not really since Warren is as much on the take as the others but, a 5% annual wealth tax above 100 million net worth would pucker a few suntanned assholes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (yQpMk)
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That capital will just relocate to Grand Cayman or similar. It probably is already moving - if such a thing is being discussed, it *will* be implemented. The only question is "when?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (I2dne)

28 So what's the solution? It takes a lot of money to run for office, and these are the people with lots of money.

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (Izzlo)

29 Well said Ace

Posted by: G marks the spot at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (GXoKW)

30 22 George Washington would slap Nadless' fat face.
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C'mon. George would have him tied to a canon and light the fuze.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:25 PM (yRAFu)

31 need stronger punishment than public embarrassment.

Posted by: henry at December 04, 2019 01:25 PM (JMDly)

32 Those leather boardroom chairs with the brass plates on the back ain't cheap, brother.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for All Your Festival of Gloom Decorations! at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

________

Nor are the Assless Chaps

Posted by: Don LeMon at December 04, 2019 01:25 PM (flINI)

33 a 5% annual wealth tax above 100 million net worth would pucker a few suntanned assholes.

Taking their money and giving it to the government will certainly work this time, it's not like they aren't already buying power.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2019 01:25 PM (FhXTo)

34 Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Posted by: channeling johnny rotten at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (m/Gc2)

35 >>a 5% annual wealth tax above 100 million net worth would pucker a few suntanned assholes.

They would NEVER have to pay that.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (XtZ7c)

36 Meanwhile, Paul Singer calls the shots in the GOP. If you ever wonder why the GOP supports so many unpopular positions with incredible zeal and passion (such as vulture capitalism), and why the GOP runs away from some popular issues like border enforcement, and why the GOP takes the Democrat side on issues which are 50/50 (gay stuff, abortion), it's because very rich liberals like Paul Singer, who have no interest in the GOP or conservatism except to pervert it into a tool to help put more money into their pockets,, have willed it so, and all of our chickenshit "representatives" can't quit that sweet, sweet corporate money.

This would seem like its big.

I mean, there were all those documentaries about the koch brothers and I was like those conspiracy theorists!

And now look at this shit.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (9VeU0)

37 http://bit.ly/2DM364Z
*******
"A Circular Response?" - Republicans Laugh as Nadler Can't Answer Simple Scheduling Question at Sham Impeachment Hearing
*******
Who is the
bigger RETARD Schitt Or Creosote

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (BqBId)

38 22 George Washington would slap Nadless' fat face.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (vGJY7)

Arron Burr would have fattened him up

and then had him for breakfast

Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (rpxSz)

39 This is why I've changed my stance on the wealth tax on billionaires. They do way more harm to America and Americans than good. They don't give a shit about America or American Citizens. They treat us as enemies so fuck them, they are my enemies.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (6gb7G)

40 Those leather boardroom chairs with the brass plates on the back ain't cheap, brother.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for All Your Festival of Gloom Decorations! at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

________

Nor are the Assless Chaps
Posted by: Don LeMon at December 04, 2019 01:25 PM (flINI)

********

And lube...

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (flINI)

41 >> Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

WE'VE BEEN HAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b6A9yzJP20

Posted by: Uncle Tupelo at December 04, 2019 01:27 PM (XtZ7c)

42 So what's the solution? It takes a lot of money to run for office, and these are the people with lots of money.
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (Izzlo)
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Repeal McCain-Feingold, eliminate donation limits (hurts the PACs) and have vicious requirements on donor identity regardless of whether it involves a campaign or a PAC or tiered organizations.

Who gave how much to whom should be a matter of public record and it isn't. Contribution limits are low and the PACs are opaque and nested.

Don't regulate it. Expose it to sunlight. It works for buttholes, and it would work for campaign finance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:27 PM (I2dne)

43
Ace, are you suggesting that True Cons are two dollar whores?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:23 PM (yRAFu)

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Cliff Asness launders $160k/yr through the AEI for it's phony "Asness Chair in Applied Liberty."

That must be pretty g-ddamned huge chair, because AEI wedged Jonah Goldberg's enormous posterior into it.

So that's what it costs to make Jonah dance on a string like the world's most grotesque marionette.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:27 PM (AzW6q)

44 Congrats on getting good sidebar.

And lo, then men laid with the sun, as though it were another man... And God did smite them for their iniquity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2019 07:25 AM (ycWCI)

That was pretty good.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 01:28 PM (1CjJc)

45 It's been long overdue for Singer to be exposed as the #1 reason the GOPe has sold us out.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:29 PM (y7DUB)

46 So how will the House vote? Impeachment or Censure? They are a tiresome lot.

Posted by: jmel at December 04, 2019 01:29 PM (RWHIh)

47 So how will the House vote? Impeachment or Censure? They are a tiresome lot.
Posted by: jmel at December 04, 2019 01:29 PM (RWHIh)
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First one, then the other.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:30 PM (I2dne)

48 And lube...
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 04, 2019 01:26 PM (flINI)
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And sunscreen.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 04, 2019 01:30 PM (qC1Sy)

49 The reason we have a national tranny in the bathroom issue is cuz the Pritzker's have a tranny son.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:30 PM (yRAFu)

50 Well, not really since Warren is as much on the take as the others but, a 5% annual wealth tax above 100 million net worth would pucker a few suntanned assholes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (yQpMk)

And use it specifically to invest in training American citizens for American jobs instead of importing invaders and their welfare sucking families.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (6gb7G)

51 So how many trips did Singer take on the Lolita Express?

Posted by: henry at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (JMDly)

52 So that's what it costs to make Jonah dance on a string like the world's most grotesque marionette.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:27 PM (AzW6q)
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If you tie him up by his thumbs, I'll contribute....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (qC1Sy)

53 51 So how many trips did Singer take on the Lolita Express?
Posted by: henry at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (JMDly)

Excellent question.

One that should be asked about all big money donors from now on.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (ayFCE)

54 So how many trips did Singer take on the Lolita Express?
Posted by: henry at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (JMDly)
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I'd be surprised if it was a number above zero. People that rich can roll their own.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (I2dne)

55 So how will the House vote? Impeachment or Censure? They are a tiresome lot.
Posted by: jmel at December 04, 2019 01:29 PM (RWHIh)
*******
They vote Impeachment the Libtards are Roadkill

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (BqBId)

56 So how many trips did Singer take on the Lolita Express?
Posted by: henry

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None! You can trust me. Honest.

Posted by: Les Wexner at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (Y4EXg)

57 51 So how many trips did Singer take on the Lolita Express?
Posted by: henry at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (JMDly)

It would be interesting to know if there are logs--COMPLETE logs--being held by an interested party in a safe place. Just in case.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (RD7QR)

58 Oh yes, I remember when Walker reversed course on immigration in 2015 and said point blank it was because his biggest donor required him too.

I naively assumed Trump was going extreme on immigration, opening up the perfect opportunity for Walker or Cruz to swoop in and establish a middle-ground option and win the nomination. Ha! Walker let the cat out of the bag: none of them are allowed to do that; they must - MUST - remain open borders, mass immigration = love to please their true constituents, their big-ass donors.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (bDqIh)

59 When the political climate is against what you want.. it's Populism

When it's for the political climate you want, then it's a mandate..

The quick, real life example: Trump saying build the wall and the cuckservatives and other pundits saying it's a populist movement doing all they can not to spit after saying it.

Posted by: Blanco at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (BZQgK)

60
They vote Impeachment the Libtards are Roadkill
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (BqBId)

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Also, if they don't.

They've painted themselves into a real corner, here. Might as well go for it, and hope with everything they've got that they can bring along the Senate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (AzW6q)

61 >>>10 >>A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for propagandists for monied interests.

It goes a lot further than the ones you already know about.

It's like old Italy. A lot of people have wealthy patrons calling the shots about what "art" they'll make.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (PbpT7)

62 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

63 55 So how will the House vote? Impeachment or Censure? They are a tiresome lot.
Posted by: jmel at December 04, 2019 01:29 PM (RWHIh)
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They vote Impeachment the Libtards are Roadkill
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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump orders the GOP House to vote for impeachment. Then he controls the narrative for the rest of the year.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (yRAFu)

64 For whatever reason, our side has had this slavish relationship to the robber barons of society, and most (99%) are diametrically opposed to any sort of conservatism past "no high taxes for me but thee"

What have Republicans got for making damn sure MegaCorps and the ultra-rich are always protected? It seems to just give them the comfort to take a piss on us.

There is room for a small government, populist, pro free enterprise political party.

For example, maybe Republicans should have made the individual tax cuts permanent and not the corporate ones?

Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (sjTfF)

65 I'd be surprised if it was a number above zero. People that rich can roll their own.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (I2dne)

In general, I'd agree. But Bill's rich and he was (allegedly) there. Same with the British Royalty guy. I think when you have that kind of money and power, Epstein's 'services' were almost like a club that many wanted to be part of.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (ayFCE)

66 The reason we have a national tranny in the bathroom issue is cuz the Pritzker's have a tranny son.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:30 PM (yRAFu)

I remember years ago how when a prominent NJ lawyer's son came out as gay and wished to marry his boyfriend, the issue of gay marriage suddenly became the # 1 issue in the state.

Gays have deep pockets generally and when they dangle donation cash in front of politicians, they very often get results.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (CqE5x)

67 Kill her. That's all you have to do.

Kill Mary?

She's a risk. And get the priest as well......

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

68 >>>Cliff Asness launders $160k/yr through the AEI for it's phony "Asness Chair in Applied Liberty."

I'm not talking about him, actually! I assume everyone knows about that one.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)

69 So didn't the other 89% make a killing off this deal as well?

Posted by: jhawk90 at December 04, 2019 01:35 PM (Xvo1a)

70 Oh yes, I remember when Walker reversed course on immigration in 2015 and said point blank it was because his biggest donor required him too.

Huckabee on Life, Liberty and Levin said that the reason DJT was doing things past Repubs wouldn't was because he self financed his campaign.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:35 PM (y7DUB)

71 Them's that got, shall get ...

Posted by: Lady Day at December 04, 2019 01:35 PM (LPnfS)

72 >>This is why I've changed my stance on the wealth tax on billionaires.
They do way more harm to America and Americans than good. They don't
give a shit about America or American Citizens. They treat us as enemies
so fuck them, they are my enemies.

Yup. They don't need us defending them.

Kinda like Uber, whose employees and executives give exclusively to Democrats wanting the GOP to bail them out when uber-progressive city leaders in places like SF implement policies that harm them.

Sorry, no can do. You get what you paid for, good and hard.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (bDqIh)

73 By the way, thanks for finally establishing it as PAUL Singer. A lot of comments referred to PETE Singer (or just Singer) and I knew that was wrong but could not figure out who everyone was talking about. And no, I did not read all of JJ's Links.

Fight me.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (aW5/6)

74 Turley was magnificent

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (CqE5x)

75 You know how AEI "chairs" work? Specific billionaires fund specific
"chairs" and give them to specific propagandists posing as
"journalists."

______

"We're going to need a bigger 'Assness Chair' for Jonah Goldberg." -- Some severely conservative billionaire asshat named Assness

Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (RJ0BQ)

76 It's like old Italy. A lot of people have wealthy patrons calling the shots about what "art" they'll make.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (PbpT7)

I want 12 disciples and 1 Christ, that's it!

Posted by: The Pope to Michelangelo at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (q1Pj5)

77 There was a kind of Noblesse Oblige amongst the turn of the century tycoons. Whether it was concern for their legacy, bread and circuses to keep the poor folk happy, or just a genuine love of their country, they gave back... But Tucker is correct none of those rich folks care about the country that got them there.

Sad business.

Posted by: Inventive at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (pnaDl)

78 Who gave how much to whom should be a matter of public record and it isn't. Contribution limits are low and the PACs are opaque and nested.

Don't regulate it. Expose it to sunlight. It works for buttholes, and it would work for campaign finance.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:27 PM (I2dne)

Take away limits on donations, BUT make Corporate donations Illegal.

Don't allow a CEO to hide his name behind a corporate Logo.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (NgKpN)

79 >>>I want 12 disciples and 1 Christ, that's it!

hah. Bloody philistine.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (PbpT7)

80 67
Kill her. That's all you have to do.

Kill Mary?

She's a risk. And get the priest as well......

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

Operashuuuuunn MiiindCrrriiiiiiiiiimmme

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (5l6gb)

81 Meh - I can't add anything other than what I've said for years. And I'd hate to miss all the "shut up troll" shit after take-off.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (LWW4k)

82 Not watching Chris wallace spin

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (CqE5x)

83 What is the Fusion link? Was it the WFB/Jeb initial dossier funder reporting?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (1CjJc)

84 It would be interesting to know if there are logs--COMPLETE logs--being held by an interested party in a safe place. Just in case.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (RD7QR)
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If there are, and I would think there are, they would be held by Ghislaine Maxwell, no?

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (/669Q)

85 I'd be surprised if it was a number above zero. People that rich can roll their own.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:31 PM (I2dne)

In general, I'd agree. But Bill's rich and he was (allegedly) there. Same with the British Royalty guy. I think when you have that kind of money and power, Epstein's 'services' were almost like a club that many wanted to be part of.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (ayFCE)

Singer likes to be low exposure. I'm sure he's *very* unhappy with TuCa.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (y7DUB)

86 A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for propagandists for monied interests.

It works the same way on the left, but the leftist reporters are willing participants. These guys are just mercenary and/or weak willed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (KZzsI)

87
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But Tucker is correct none of those rich folks care about the country that got them there.

Sad business.
Posted by: Inventive at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (pnaDl)
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This is not surprising. How many of these people are Americans? I don't mean by nationality or citizenship, I mean by spirit?

I reckon the vast bulk of them are "global citizens" and not Americans. Why should a "global citizen" much care about America versus somewhere else?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (I2dne)

88 Singer is an asshole but the Cabela's didn't have to sell - like the kid who doesn't want to run Dad's hardware store. People may not like it, but "take the money and run" just ain't a Steve Miller song.

Posted by: rammajamma at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (PQRcz)

89 70 Oh yes, I remember when Walker reversed course on immigration in 2015 and said point blank it was because his biggest donor required him too.
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It became obvious early in the primaries that the GOPe and DEMe were running to see who became the Emperor of the Western Hemisphere not Prez of the US.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (yRAFu)

90 >>>What is the Fusion link? Was it the WFB/Jeb initial dossier funder reporting?

well, I don't know if there's a link, but Paul Singer funds the Free Beacon, and the Free Beacon first paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on the two populist candidates, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (PbpT7)

91 82 Not watching Chris wallace spin
Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (CqE5x)

The Fu**er is wrong just about every time.

He. Rove, and Judge Nap need to hang it up, stat.

Posted by: Marybeth at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (CmURZ)

92 It's like old Italy. A lot of people have wealthy patrons calling the shots about what "art" they'll make.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (PbpT7)

But that art doesn't affect the rest of the population.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (CqE5x)

93 I want 12 disciples and 1 Christ, that's it!
Posted by: The Pope to Michelangelo

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So who asked the hostess for a table for 26?

(They all sat on the same side.)

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (Y4EXg)

94 Singer likes to be low exposure. I'm sure he's *very* unhappy with TuCa.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (y7DUB)
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Good.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (/669Q)

95 61 >>>10 >>A lot of "conservative journalists" are actually bought-and-paid-for propagandists for monied interests.

It goes a lot further than the ones you already know about.

It's like old Italy. A lot of people have wealthy patrons calling the shots about what "art" they'll make.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (PbpT7)

That money has found its way to many smaller news sites and broadcasts, alt- media, journalists/media on YouTube, and even influencers on YouTube via SuperChats. It's a huge problem.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (6gb7G)

96 Oh and Abortion and homosexual "marriage" were and are not 50/50 at all, more like 30/70 but the GOP went along anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (KZzsI)

97 when the huntress visited dc for the alfalfa club, right after the election, one of the people she met was paul singer, she quickly figured out what it require to have her support, this was right when the ethics blitzkrieg had started up, and it was becoming prohibitive to stay in office, they were mostly processed by perkins and coie, the firm most recently involved with fusion and crowdstrike, as well as gitmo detainees,

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (hMlTh)

98 88 Singer is an asshole but the Cabela's didn't have to sell - like the kid who doesn't want to run Dad's hardware store. People may not like it, but "take the money and run" just ain't a Steve Miller song.
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Cabela would have had to take a poison pill and spend oodles on lawyers for years. Vulture Capitalism is a real thing.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (yRAFu)

99 84 It would be interesting to know if there are logs--COMPLETE logs--being held by an interested party in a safe place. Just in case.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (RD7QR)
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If there are, and I would think there are, they would be held by Ghislaine Maxwell, no?
Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (/669Q)

Ghislaine would be a good guess. Her daddy was a Brit spook so she would have learned about that kind of insurance policy.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (RD7QR)

100 Active shooter at Jackson State University in Mississippi

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HBCU.

It will be like it never happened if it's the same way it always happens.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (EI6Yn)

101 Dance little puppets! Dance! Dance! Dance!

See also, Don Corleone must share the politicians.

Posted by: Archer at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (gmo/4)

102 60

They vote Impeachment the Libtards are Roadkill

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:32 PM (BqBId)

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Also, if they don't.

They've painted themselves into a real corner, here. Might as well
go for it, and hope with everything they've got that they can bring
along the Senate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (AzW6q)
I hope the Dems go for it, assuming the GOP stands straight and true (yeah, I know). The Senate trial will be quite entertaining.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (N39Ws)

103 Take away limits on donations, BUT make Corporate donations Illegal.

Don't allow a CEO to hide his name behind a corporate Logo.
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 01:37 PM (NgKpN)
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Make the chain transparent and tie it to a non-profit adjunct (like the "foundation" that every big company has). Any political donation requires chain of custody on the money. If BigCorp Foundation donates to a candidate, then all of the foundation's donors become public, too, along with amounts.

Want to allow anonymous donations or protect your donors' privacy? Don't be involved in politics.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (I2dne)

104 The sole duty of the board of directors of a company is to maximize value to the shareholders.

Sounds super simple, right?

Define value.

Define maximize.

Are we talking making sure that the next quarter's stock price is at a new high or are we talking making long term investments to keep the company going for as long as possible?

This is one of those situations where beautiful, beautiful theory slams into reality and shatters into a trillion pieces.

No, a company has no legal obligation to continue doing business in a certain community. But costs are more than strictly entries on a spreadsheet.

People mock Millennials for job hopping but why the hell would anyone stay at a job when it is brutally apparent that the company will get rid of you in an instant?

Also, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but isn't this how Romney made his money as well?

*ponders moar* Mayhap what sits wrong with me on all of this is that all that is generated is ledger entries, not actual, tangible goods. I don't know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

105 ace in some ways/cases it's actually worse than you say.

By that I mean there's "conviction" behind some of the GOP's worst behavior, not just $$$.

Graham, on a weekend, literally ran to organize a legislative response and issue a typically self-righteous and dumb statement on DACA when Trump rescinded the [ludicrously unconstitutional and illegal Obama EO]. He clearly - absurdly - passionately believes that this tiny marginally tear-jerking matter is THE important aspect of the collapse of rule of law in immigration.

Nothing short of a mega terror attack or the landing of extra-terrestrials gets the GOP to cameras AND calling their staff in on weekends like these marginal, dumb, and politically unpopular issues.

Mere mercenary servile behavior is bad enough, but it's actually much worse.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (QDnY+)

106 Active shooter at Jackson State University in Mississippi

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HBCU.

It will be like it never happened if it's the same way it always happens.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (EI6Yn)

What is HBCU ?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (CqE5x)

107 Is Brian Kemp owned by Singer or someone else?

Posted by: dantesed at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (88xKn)

108 Hey Jonah Goldberg you gritting no talent plagiarist. We know you come here so you have some thing to talk about in your DMs. Where did most of the money for your shitty newsletter come from?

Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (d4Cay)

109 This is why I've changed my stance on the wealth tax on billionaires. They do way more harm to America and Americans than good. They don't give a shit about America or American Citizens. They treat us as enemies so fuck them, they are my enemies.
Posted by: squirrelly dan

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I'm pretty much there also, my only fear is that it bleeds into the "sort of' rich as taxes usually do.

If I could have a wealth tax that didn't go below billionaire, fuck yes I'd want it just to watch them squeal, leave America, not be allowed to fund Leftists candidates, etc.

I think that's why Ace was saying he hopes Warren is who Democrats pick, to watch the donor class freak out.

Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2019 01:41 PM (sjTfF)

110 >>
You know how AEI "chairs" work? Specific billionaires fund specific

"chairs" and give them to specific propagandists posing as

"journalists."

I didn't know about this, ace, but it makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:41 PM (bDqIh)

111
I'm not talking about him, actually! I assume everyone knows about that one.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)

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Given that Continetti edited WFB and is an AEI Scholar, I assume Singer owns his loose ass as well.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:41 PM (AzW6q)

112 And Patreon. Large amounts of money funneled through Patreon.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:41 PM (6gb7G)

113 I was fired by the Washington Examiner. I used to write articles for their "regular guy" website section. Then they shut the whole thing down, and fired the guy in charge (well he left the paper because the job was eliminated).

But it was interesting, even back then in 2006, there were certain topics that were just not welcome to discuss. Like I wrote an entire piece of reverse racism and it was rejected. I wrote a piece on the disproportionate amount of blacks working in the federal government and how that would be called racism to cut the size of the fed and that was rejected.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

114 98 I know more than most on the subject unfortunately, but fortune favors the bold as they say - acquiescing to extortion is an easy way out and nice cover if you can get it. There are no good guys in this story.

Posted by: rammajamma at December 04, 2019 01:41 PM (PQRcz)

115 What is HBCU ?

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"Jackson State University is a public, historically black university in Jackson, Mississippi. The university is one of the largest HBCUs in the United States and the fourth largest university in Mississippi." - Wikipedia

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (EI6Yn)

116 67 Kill her. That's all you have to do.

Kill Mary?

She's a risk. And get the priest as well......
Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

Mindcrime \m/

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (Izzlo)

117 Trump = GOPe surprise anal

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (LISuA)

118 Heck, I bet it already never happened.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (EI6Yn)

119 This Tucker Carlson fellow seems to have a bias towards truth.

Quite refreshing.

Posted by: jwest at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (U6f/q)

120 >>>> was fired by the Washington Examiner. I used to write articles for their "regular guy" website section. Then they shut the whole thing down, and fired the guy in charge (well he left the paper because the job was eliminated).

oh, lookie here, Tim Carney, Washington Examiner editor, is a paid "fellow" at AEI.

What a coincidence.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (PbpT7)

121 I knew I was really disappointed when Bass Pro bought Cabella's, but I had no idea it was a shit stick greedy fuck that caused the whole thing.

THIS is where government should step in. Not in my bedroom. Not in my house. Not in my work.

When my well being is being buttfucked with an aids infected, herp laden cock of evil and greed is where it should be.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (Zz0t1)

122 That's Lieutenant Colonel Doctor Professor Pamela S. Karlan, bub.

Posted by: wth at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (v0R5T)

123 The reason we have a national tranny in the bathroom issue is cuz the Pritzker's have a tranny son.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:30 PM (yRAFu)

I remember years ago how when a prominent NJ lawyer's son came out as gay and wished to marry his boyfriend, the issue of gay marriage suddenly became the # 1 issue in the state.
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See: Portman, Rob

Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (vg8iE)

124 106 Active shooter at Jackson State University in Mississippi

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HBCU.

It will be like it never happened if it's the same way it always happens.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (EI6Yn)

What is HBCU ?
Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (CqE5x)

Historically Black College and University. And yes, since most mass shootings are a disgruntled worker killing boss and ex and the poor bastard who gets in the way, it will disappear.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

125 And yet my least favorite Democrat ever, McCain, was flamed for his position on money in politics. He was simply too limited in scope

Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (VpIIl)

126 Sounds super simple, right?

Define value.

Define maximize.

Are we talking making sure that the next quarter's stock price is at a new high or are we talking making long term investments to keep the company going for as long as possible?

This is one of those situations where beautiful, beautiful theory slams into reality and shatters into a trillion pieces.

No, a company has no legal obligation to continue doing business in a certain community. But costs are more than strictly entries on a spreadsheet.

People mock Millennials for job hopping but why the hell would anyone stay at a job when it is brutally apparent that the company will get rid of you in an instant?

Also, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but isn't this how Romney made his money as well?

*ponders moar* Mayhap what sits wrong with me on all of this is that all that is generated is ledger entries, not actual, tangible goods. I don't know.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

These two articles strike me as being in many ways intertwined.

https://amgreatness.com/2019/12/03/are-cheap-imports-making-cheap-americans/

https://medium.com/@byrnehobart/the-economics-of-the-boomers-339da0774f24

For decades now the Boomers have been playing a game of musical assets, hoping to be sitting pretty when the music stops at retirement.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (wCmLp)

127 Should be an interesting conversation between Lachlan Murdoch and Paul Singer at the next Bohemian Grove meeting.

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (xPl2J)

128 Also, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but isn't this how Romney made his money as well?

>>>>>>

Yes. The term is vulture capitalism. Romney = Gordon Gekko

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (6gb7G)

129 HBCU.

It will be like it never happened if it's the same way it always happens.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I support medically approved diets for anorexics who are trapped in fat girls' bodies at December 04, 2019 01:39 PM (EI6Yn)

Like Jackson State vs Kent State?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (y7DUB)

130 Mayhap what sits wrong with me on all of this is that all that is generated is ledger entries, not actual, tangible goods

This. Almost all of our banking, economy, and the world monetary system is ghost money. It simply does not exist.

I'm not talking about how you can create wealth through investment and business dealings. I'm talking about how people are moving money around that only has ever existed in computers and on paper. No dollars ever were printed or exchanged hands. No goods or property are involved. Its entirely invented and on balance sheets.

The entire world's economy except a few little tribal places like the jungles of Brazil is run and sustained on this.

I reject the validity of Bitcoin because it simply does not exist, it has no real world connection and is not based on any actual transactions or real world goods and services. But too much of the damned real world economy is the same way.

Can this continue? I dunno. I feel that it cannot, but it has for decades now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (KZzsI)

131 This Tucker Carlson fellow seems to have a bias towards truth.

Quite refreshing.
Posted by: jwest at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (U6f/q)

Carlson is one of the few who seems to have genuinely taken the election of Trump as a signal to reevaluate his worldview and figure out what he was missing.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (wCmLp)

132 Who the hell is Paul Singer?

Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

133 >>>127 Should be an interesting conversation between Lachlan Murdoch and Paul Singer at the next Bohemian Grove meeting.

I have a friend -- a good guy and actually one of the first Trump supporters -- who's a member of that. He was born wealthy so, you know, he had connections and stuff.

I forget what he told me about it. He didn't say much. He didn't talk about the flaming idol at the end.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (PbpT7)

134 ace, which "conservative" think tank is it where one of the guys in their leadership (a national security expert, I think?) came out as trans and suddenly the think tank was 100% on board wth transgender right?

I know it was Heritage, since they seem to (at least for now) seem to be the one DC institution that was willing to host a TERF conference/feminists who have issues with how trans rights affect women event last year.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:46 PM (bDqIh)

135 For decades now the Boomers have been playing a game of musical assets, hoping to be sitting pretty when the music stops at retirement.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (wCmLp)

The greatest generation looking out and protecting their own kids and younger generations to follow.
SMFH

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:46 PM (6gb7G)

136 those old robber barons were assholes too. George Westinghouse was about the only one with a soul and the others led by JP Morgan crushed him.

Posted by: x at December 04, 2019 01:46 PM (nFwvY)

137 a few years later, the mad leader of Malaysia, malathir muhammed, needed to defame the lead opposition figure, anwar Ibrahim, as an islamists, to obscure his anticorruption credentials, well a number of western pundits, including clair berlinski, some figures at red state, and others took he local coin with relish (and mustard), years later after his prot�g� rajib, made a mess of things he repudiated that whole campaign, but I remember.

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 01:46 PM (hMlTh)

138 I guess my point is that not *everyone* at the Bohemian Grove is necessarily a Bilderberger conspirator.

Just a lot of them. Some people just show up to hear fading rock stars play accoustic guitar.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:46 PM (PbpT7)

139 Sorry, it *wasn't* Heritage. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (bDqIh)

140 133 >>>127 Should be an interesting conversation between Lachlan Murdoch and Paul Singer at the next Bohemian Grove meeting.

I have a friend -- a good guy and actually one of the first Trump supporters -- who's a member of that. He was born wealthy so, you know, he had connections and stuff.

I forget what he told me about it. He didn't say much. He didn't talk about the flaming idol at the end.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (PbpT7)

Maybe the idol should have put sunblock on its back hole beforehand. Just a suggestion.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (RD7QR)

141 Who the hell is Paul Singer?
Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

Satan on Earth.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

142 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:33 PM (AzW6q)
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Not really they don't vote for Impeachment what are the batshit Crazy LOONS going to do? Sit at home on Election Day? They vote for impeachment the Senate will destroy the DemoCRAZY Party

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (BqBId)

143 >>>e, which "conservative" think tank is it where one of the guys in their leadership (a national security expert, I think?) came out as trans and suddenly the think tank was 100% on board wth transgender right?

I believe that's AEI again.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (PbpT7)

144 Can this continue? I dunno. I feel that it cannot, but it has for decades now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (KZzsI)
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Kind of like Social Security.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (/669Q)

145
Apparently James Capretta (RCP 'journalist') has his loose ass owned by a billionaire called Michael L. Keiser, who funds his AEI chair.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (AzW6q)

146 See: Portman, Rob
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (vg8iE)

Like when he ran to MessNBC to crow about his "evolution" and sold out the voters who'd previously passed a DOMA? That Rob Portman?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:47 PM (y7DUB)

147 >>>143 >>>e, which "conservative" think tank is it where one of the guys in their leadership (a national security expert, I think?) came out as trans and suddenly the think tank was 100% on board wth transgender right?

I believe that's AEI again.

...

we're not allowed to talk about this, of course.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM (PbpT7)

148 Who the hell is Paul Singer?
Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

a man who sews discontent

Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM (rpxSz)

149 Who the hell is Paul Singer?
Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

Satan on Earth.
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*ahem*

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM (vg8iE)

150 Who the hell is Paul Singer?

The greatest trick I ever pulled was convincing the world that I didn't exist.

Posted by: Paul Singer at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM (yQpMk)

151 People mock Millennials for job hopping but why the hell would anyone stay at a job when it is brutally apparent that the company will get rid of you in an instant?

Also, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but isn't this how Romney made his money as well?

*ponders moar* Mayhap what sits wrong with me on all of this is that all that is generated is ledger entries, not actual, tangible goods. I don't know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

It varies. Not all profitable transactions are value added economically speaking, not all transactions that eliminate jobs are bad.

In theory a clpsed headquarters would be a cheap place for someone else to open up their headquarters but that rarely happens.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (7nTlT)

152 AEI's top tranny, "Giselle" Donnely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselle_Donnelly

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (PbpT7)

153 I think he invented the sewing machine.

Posted by: wth at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (v0R5T)

154 >Ben Sasse sucking cocks for dollars?

Wait, who is driving the uber?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (2Q7QV)

155 I don't like Singer, nor do I like his methods. But a lot of people walked away with a payday from Bass Pro-Cabelas.

Furthermore, the law (and regulatory environment) permits that type of transactions and in mergers, there are always staff cuts and relocation's.

Remember that Cabelas was a public corporation. Bass Pro, is not.

I'm not defending Singer at all. Only the process by which these M&A's occur. That's capitalism and the free market, which Tucker, if he's the libertarian he states he is, should defend.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (VpIIl)

156 The JIDF contingent at AoSHQ [which would be about 80% of the poasters
here] is sh!tting in its collective-kibbutz pants right now, as Shabbos
Goy Ace of Spades re-affirms the decision of Tucker Carlson to Name The
***.
 nbsp; 
Oy vey.
 nbsp; 
Shut it down.
 nbsp;

Posted by: John Bercow at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (jXl61)

157 -
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Those leather boardroom chairs with the brass plates on the back ain't cheap, brother.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for All Your Festival of Gloom Decorations! at December 04, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

________

Nor are the Assless Chaps

Posted by: Don LeMon at December 04, 2019 01:25 PM

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Which are perfect for sunbathing!

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (pMGkg)

158 Cabelas was also always thought to be better than Bass Pro Shops. That has quickly changed since the sale. Even employees within the store have complained.

Posted by: Gman at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (Cs8gR)

159 Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (PbpT7)

Back in the day, the old SPY Magazine did what I believe was the most in-depth expose ever on Bohemian Grove. They got a lot of attendees to speak off the record and even included a map, as I recall.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (U7qMl)

160 For decades now the Boomers have been playing a game of musical assets, hoping to be sitting pretty when the music stops at retirement.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 04, 2019 01:44 PM (wCmLp)

Thank you for those, I'll have to go back and check them out since, sadly, I must do some work at work.

On the whole all money is is entries of zeroes and ones, I'm inching ever close to the fuck it, mint a coin, say it's worth 200 trillion dollars and BOOM there all the unfunded liabilities are fixed.

I mean, why not? Money is tied to absolutely nothing but people agreeing the Emperor has not clothes. Let's test that theory.

It's like in Fallout how bottlecaps are the coin of the realm. Why the hell not?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

161
Who the hell is Paul Singer?
Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

a man who sews discontent
Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM (rpxSz)

So he wants conservapundits to go bobbin for contributions, like apples?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM (kw0bd)

162 148
Who the hell is Paul Singer?

Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (RuIsu)

a man who sews discontent

Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM (rpxSz)

Sew the wind. Reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM (1CjJc)

163 I'm not really sure where our side got on the bandwagon of "if big money wants something, it must be conservative and we support it"

Private equity is a great example, I have a backstory I don't want to get into, but I've experienced first hand the outright fraud PE firms engage in that bankrupt a company so a handful of people walk away with a few hundred million.

But some Koch/Singer funded think tank will swear this somehow benefits our country as a whole, so that Mitt Romney can put an elevator for his garage at his beach house.

Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM (sjTfF)

164 http://bit.ly/2OSV6FT
******
Angry Dem Impeachment 'Witness' Pam Karlan Donated Thousands to Hillary and Was on Clinton's List For Potential SCOTUS Nomination

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM (BqBId)

165 I've never understood Christians who change their mind on gay marriage because they find out that their son or daughter is gay. "In a disagreement between my 3,000 year old religion and my 19 year old son I'm going to choose...my son! Because my son!" If your kid tells you he's attracted to children are you going to come out in favor of pedophilia? If something is wrong it doesn't automatically become right because your kid wants to do it.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM (3ufaJ)

166 I'm not defending Singer at all. Only the process by which these M&A's occur. That's capitalism and the free market, which Tucker, if he's the libertarian he states he is, should defend.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (VpIIl)
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That's what struck me with the 11% bit - a lot of other folks made out on that deal too.

Posted by: jhawk90 at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM (Xvo1a)

167 Hope Nadler eats himself sick.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (mv5Fv)

168 I hope Tucker Carlson has excellent physical security, because he is moving up towards the #1 slot on the Mossad hit list.
Six months from now, I pray we aren't having to meme "Tucker Carlson Didn't Kill Himself!"
tl;dr == Shit's starting to get real...

Posted by: John Bercow at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (jXl61)

169 Actual journalism...it exists! Good for Tucker, he told that race
hustler charlatan "professor" to pound salt as well. More please.

Sasse is Drudge is Napalitano is Sasse...
**Spit**

Posted by: dananjcon at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (u6xw0)

170 BBL, gotta throw the old sewing machine in the river. Not in the barge channel though.

Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (RuIsu)

171 "Pretty much, whenever the GOP is acting in what appears to be an inexplicably stupid or traitorous way, the reason is that, of course, they're being paid to act that way, and they of course can't admit that publicly."

Mr. O'Spades, you are far too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Concerned members of the GOPe at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (FwckK)

172 AEI's top tranny, "Giselle" Donnely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselle_Donnelly
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (PbpT7)
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Oh man, I remember when that broke. Ooof.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (/669Q)

173
Singer, just like Soros, have a description.

That description is Evil. Pure Evil.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM (sy5kK)

174 163 This, the carried interest deduction is the worst feature of the tax code and avarice in PE is well distributed among the left and right.

Posted by: rammajamma at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM (PQRcz)

175 What's with the strange blurps of anti-semites lately. It seems like we get at least one a day spouting some incomprehensible dribble. All code words or something.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

176 >>Cabelas was also always thought to be better than Bass Pro Shops. That has quickly changed since the sale. Even employees within the store have complained.

Because it was.

The Cabelas / Bass pro merger is going to kill them both. Massive supply chain problems have been occurring since the buyout/merger and their sales are down. Mostly owing to them removing a lot of Cabelas old suppliers. Long list of products no longer FS in their shops.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM (XtZ7c)

177 AEI is a Joke always has been with that Retard Norm Ornstein . Ornstein studies American politics and is a frequent contributor to The Washington Post and many magazines, such as The Atlantic and the National Journal.[7] He wrote a weekly column for Roll Call from 1993 until April 10, 2013, and is currently co-director, along with Thomas E. Mann, of the AEI-Brookings Election Reform Project. He helped draft key parts of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold Act.[8] Ornstein is a registered Democrat,[9] but considers himself a centrist, and has voted for individuals from both parties.[10]

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM (BqBId)

178 The deal for Cabela's was for $4 billion.

Where'd that money go?

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

179
Thank you for those, I'll have to go back and check them out since, sadly, I must do some work at work.

On the whole all money is is entries of zeroes and ones, I'm inching ever close to the fuck it, mint a coin, say it's worth 200 trillion dollars and BOOM there all the unfunded liabilities are fixed.

I mean, why not? Money is tied to absolutely nothing but people agreeing the Emperor has not clothes. Let's test that theory.

It's like in Fallout how bottlecaps are the coin of the realm. Why the hell not?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

Well that'd cause a 5 to 8 year period of hyperinflation. Owners of assets such as stockholders win, owners of bonds and debt lose.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (7nTlT)

180 >>>AEI's top tranny, "Giselle" Donnely

Does any guy who starts thinking he's a woman ever take a regular name like Sally or Sue?

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (xPl2J)

181 >>>>> "I've never understood Christians who change their mind on gay marriage because they find out that their son or daughter is gay."
Paul Singer is a ***.

Posted by: John Bercow at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (jXl61)

182 The problem with all this "money" is that it only works if the people aren't paying attention.

Fund the shit out of a candidate the people know is crooked and against them, and it won't make a bit of difference (unless you have enough money to rig the vote itself).

The hitch, though, is that "The People" need to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop voting for the last person whose banner ad they saw on OwMyBalls.com.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (AURKQ)

183 Annoying Stormfronter is annoying.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

184 This Tucker Carlson fellow seems to have a bias towards truth.

Quite refreshing.
Posted by: jwest at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (U6f/q)

Love the recent clip when Tucker told the NeoCon that he didn't care about the Ukraine after teh NeoCon said we must protect democracy over and over then Tucker said he was pulling for Russia.
I laughed and had tears rolling down my cheeks because the NeoCons excuse for wars for democracy doesn't work on Tucker and most American Citizens any longer.

Can't find the clip because YouTube's algo's make it impossible to search.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (6gb7G)

185 Hope Nadler eats himself sick.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 04, 2019 01:52 PM (mv5Fv)
..........

and his lap band snaps with a loud POP during the hearing.

Posted by: wth at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (v0R5T)

186
Some AEI people whose names we know:

Michael Barone
Matthew Continetti
Jay Cost
Yuval Levin
Ramesh Ponnuru
Sean Trende
Arthur Brooks
Paul Ryan
JD Vance

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (AzW6q)

187 I'm not defending Singer at all. Only the process by which these M&A's occur. That's capitalism and the free market, which Tucker, if he's the libertarian he states he is, should defend.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (VpIIl)

You're mostly right and God knows I'd never be in favor of trying to legislate against this. But in TuCa's synopsis he used some examples of taxpayer guarantees as greasing the skids and not making it solely a free market operation; which implicated Sassy Pants even more.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:55 PM (y7DUB)

188 a man who sews discontent
Posted by: REDACTED

There's a time to sew and
There's a time to rend what is sewn

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 01:55 PM (Yo3dV)

189 -
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What's with the strange blurps of anti-semites
lately. It seems like we get at least one a day spouting some
incomprehensible dribble. All code words or something.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM

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Must be the weather. (machine)

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 01:55 PM (pMGkg)

190 77
There was a kind of Noblesse Oblige amongst the turn of the century
tycoons. Whether it was concern for their legacy, bread and circuses to
keep the poor folk happy, or just a genuine love of their country, they
gave back... But Tucker is correct none of those rich folks care about
the country that got them there.

Sad business.

Posted by: Inventive at December 04, 2019 01:36 PM (pnaDl)

______

PDT appears to be the only billionaire (and possibly Peter Thiel -- don't know if he's worth a billion) who's grateful for and loves America. If there are any others, they're doing a great job of hiding it.

Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2019 01:55 PM (RJ0BQ)

191 So how exactly did Epstein make his money ?

Epstein and his Madame were Israeli agents

https://tinyurl.com/u7efceq

OK, Its the UK Sun, but it makes more sense than anything else I've heard...

Posted by: McCool at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (+Lg8f)

192 What's amazing is that Tucker broadcasts on a network controlled by a billionaire family, and the leading member of the family in management at Fox gave the maximum to Mayor Gigi.

Rating still mean a little something at Fox, which distinguishes the network from CNN and all the others.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (LISuA)

193 >>> "AEI is a Joke always has been with that Retard Norm Ornstein"
Norm Ornstein is a ***.

Posted by: John Bercow at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (jXl61)

194
I watched that segment last night, twice, the original 8PM run and then the 11PM rerun.

It will be interesting to see how Singer tried to retaliate against Tucker. He will try to destroy Carlson over this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (f1Vqw)

195 And they can't buy Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (oVJmc)

196 >>Epstein and his Madame were Israeli agents

Hahahahaha -

That's why the Weather was so great on Pedo Island!

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (XtZ7c)

197
Also, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but isn't this how Romney made his money as well?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:40 PM (mf5HN)
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Why YES, Romney made his money doing nearly the exact same thing as Singer!

Remember that every time you see his smarmy mug on TV.

And if you talk with any Utah voter, remind them, too.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (sy5kK)

198 I don't really understand the argument that I have to applaud whatever results the market produces. Sure, so long as they're legal, I have to accept that it can happen, but I can oppose it. Kind of like democracy. I have to accept the results of an election, but I don't have to celebrate or support every chump who gets elected.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2019 01:56 PM (z8oRC)

199 a man who sews discontent
Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:48 PM

=====

Sew the wind. Reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM

A stitch in time saves nine.

Sow. Sow is the word you seek.

Posted by: Farmer Fritter, and his tasty critters at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM (FwckK)

200 AEI current scholars and fellows include Kevin Hassett, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Michael Barone, Nicholas Eberstadt, Jonah Goldberg, Phil Gramm, Glenn Hubbard, Frederick Kagan, Leon Kass, Jon Kyl, Charles Murray, Norman Ornstein, Mark J. Perry, Danielle Pletka, Michael Rubin, Gary Schmitt, Christina Hoff Sommers, Jim Talent, Peter J. Wallison, Michael R. Strain, Bill Lenner, and W. Bradford Wilcox.[8]

Former AEI scholars or affiliates notably include President Gerald Ford, William J. Baroody Jr., William J. Baroody Sr., Robert Bork, Arthur F. Burns, Ronald Coase, Dinesh D'Souza, Alfred de Grazia, Christopher DeMuth, Martin Feldstein, Milton Friedman, David Frum, Reuel Marc Gerecht, David Gergen, Newt Gingrich, James K. Glassman, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Irving Kristol, Michael Ledeen, Seymour Martin Lipset, John Lott, James C. Miller III, Joshua Muravchik, Michael Novak, Richard Perle, Roscoe Pound, Laurence Silberman, Antonin Scalia, Ben Wattenberg, and James Q. Wilson.
********
GEEZ Many Deep Staters here??

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM (BqBId)

201 >>we're not allowed to talk about this, of course.
Yup.
This is why I can't hate the "groypers."* They are questioning all this sh#t, though their focus is more on the younger generation of well-funded conservatives like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. They talk like people on /pol/ (crude and intentionally offensive to get a response), but the gist is: "What would you say you're conserving when you're already embracing SSM, drag queen and transgenders?"

*The Israel stuff is a different matter

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM (bDqIh)

202 175 What's with the strange blurps of anti-semites lately. It seems like we get at least one a day spouting some incomprehensible dribble. All code words or something.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

But that's just what those crafty Joos *want* you to think...

Hey, has anybody checked the weather lately?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM (AURKQ)

203 There's this ewok hobo hunting valuerite chugging blogger I know about who will parrot my talking points whether I flip him a buck or not.

Posted by: torabora at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM (Y274z)

204 I was going through open secrets, and among the recipients of singer's Danegeld, is mcturtles peanut gallery the senate leadership caucus

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (hMlTh)

205 Perhaps vulture capitalists on both sides of the aisle should pay attention to the attack on Henry Frick.
Rich and crooked makes a big target.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (e1mEI)

206
Epstein and Ghislaine are not just Mossad, they are everybody, CIA + the rest of the Five Eyes.

Look up the story of Ghislaine's infamous daddy, Robert Maxwell. He too died under strange circumstances, falling off his yacht and drowning.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (f1Vqw)

207 Eh, I always thought the whole "gay" thing was a bit overwrought. Personally, I'm against it for religious regions and I don't want it shoved in my face, so to speak. Nor do I want special rights and a protected class for them. But I don't want that for anyone. Individual liberty means you need to have a bit of tolerance and that has to occur within the constitutional boundaries and with respect to people who have a different opinion. We're all on the road to hell anyway, if they choose to ride another man for that journey, whatever.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (G1tCv)

208 I'm not here shhhhhh

You want to talk about shenanigans, look at Theranos and the utter, brutal fraud there. Bad Blood is a fantastic read.

More recently, look at WeWork and oh this, er, office releasing company with some bizarre tech hip neo hippie overlay is worth billions and billions!

Right up until the time of the IPO and grownups started looking at the books and the founder steps down but not after cashing out for billions himself.

Yeah, that's not capitalism.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

209 I actually think the Mossad/Epstein connection makes a lot of sense. I'm sure we'll never really know, but what a genius plan. You catch someone with an underage girl, you own that asset.

I certainly don't buy that this was all about Epstein "sharing the love" with his "spoils" It was clearly a blackmail trap and a damn effective one.

Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (sjTfF)

210 BREAKING

George Zimmerman sues family of Trayvon Martin, publisher, prosecutors for $100 million

Posted by: SMOD at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (3aI0K)

211 178 The deal for Cabela's was for $4 billion.

Where'd that money go?

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

Presumably the people who previously owned Cabelas, though part of it may have been a transfer of liabilities, I didn't look at this closely yet.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (7nTlT)

212 I remember years ago how when a prominent NJ lawyer's son came out as gay and wished to marry his boyfriend, the issue of gay marriage suddenly became the # 1 issue in the state.
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See: Portman, Rob
Posted by: bicentennialguy

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Portman was always a traitorous sleeze. But, I don't understand the issue of whatever my kid does, I'm for it. My daughter claims to be gay. Whatevs.

But I do not and will not support gay marriage, ever. I will not even show up if there is such a spectacle for her. I have a duty to avoid scandal.

I love all my kids. That in no way means I support every boneheaded decision they make.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (Y4EXg)

213 184 This Tucker Carlson fellow seems to have a bias towards truth.

Quite refreshing.
Posted by: jwest at December 04, 2019 01:42 PM (U6f/q)

Love the recent clip when Tucker told the NeoCon that he didn't care about the Ukraine after teh NeoCon said we must protect democracy over and over then Tucker said he was pulling for Russia.
I laughed and had tears rolling down my cheeks because the NeoCons excuse for wars for democracy doesn't work on Tucker and most American Citizens any longer.

Can't find the clip because YouTube's algo's make it impossible to search.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:54 PM (6gb7G)

I mean the ADL algo's but I'm repeating myself

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (6gb7G)

214 >>> For those against "populism," who abhor the prospect of being ruled over by brutish common citizens -- well, our nation's politics are either going to be decided by savage, brutish common citizens or by plutocrats like Paul Singer.

Bill Buckley was on to something.

"Better to be governed by 500 random names from the Boston phonebook than all the faculty at Harvard."

Posted by: fluffy at December 04, 2019 01:59 PM (RS7KS)

215 Thank you for those, I'll have to go back and check them out since, sadly, I must do some work at work.

On the whole all money is is entries of zeroes and ones, I'm inching ever close to the fuck it, mint a coin, say it's worth 200 trillion dollars and BOOM there all the unfunded liabilities are fixed.

I mean, why not? Money is tied to absolutely nothing but people agreeing the Emperor has not clothes. Let's test that theory.

It's like in Fallout how bottlecaps are the coin of the realm. Why the hell not?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

THe first is an American Greatness article about free trade, and the idea that "cheap goods creates cheap people" by actually hurting their purchasing power in the long run.

The second is an article about the Boomers' effect on the economy over the past few decades, by spending massive amounts of money on equities (90s) and then housing (00s).

It strikes me that one of the unintended consequences of free trade may be that it helped corporations make their balance sheets look nicer, right at the moment when people were scrambling to invest their savings. And the benefit of cheap imports, in the form of increased purchasing power, ended up helping to fuel the housing bubble as people dumped that money into more expensive homes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 04, 2019 01:59 PM (wCmLp)

216 Sow... Sew... Sewing Machine... Weather Machine... Singer... PAUL Singer....

Joooooos!

(am I doing it right? I'm kinda new at this...)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 04, 2019 01:59 PM (AURKQ)

217 188 a man who sews discontent
Posted by: REDACTED

There's a time to sew and
There's a time to rend what is sewn
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 01:55 PM (Yo3dV)

I'm sick of this thread

let's have a nude

Posted by: REDACTED at December 04, 2019 01:59 PM (rpxSz)

218 -
--
Sew the wind. Reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 01:51 PM

A stitch in time saves nine.

Sow. Sow is the word you seek.

Posted by: Farmer Fritter, and his tasty critters at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM

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They have non-useless tits.

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 01:59 PM (pMGkg)

219 Presumably the people who previously owned Cabelas, though part of it may have been a transfer of liabilities, I didn't look at this closely yet.
Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (7nTlT)

That's my thought as well, but wondered why they, who were the entire town, didn't take that $4 Billion and start another business, reinvesting in their town and doing it all over again.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

220 People mock Millennials for job hopping but why the hell would anyone stay at a job when it is brutally apparent that the company will get rid of you in an instant?

-

I'm leaning that way now, too. The days of a 30 year career before parties and gold watches are gone unless you're a federal employee involved in a coup.

Screw it. Do your job, but look for another job on lunch hour at your current job. If they'll pay you 5% more then quit without notice unless it will cost you money, because they're not going to give you notice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (EI6Yn)

221 AEI's top tranny, "Giselle" Donnely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselle_Donnelly
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:49 PM (PbpT7)

Disgusting.

I'm sorry, but that's the term that welled up on reading that Wiki entry.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (wpPM0)

222 McCool: "OK, Its the UK Sun, but it makes more sense than anything else I've heard..."nbsp; 
Well, it's a step in the right direction.nbsp; Of course, if it were a snake [which, technically, it is], it would have bit you by now.nbsp; Serious question: How long does it take you Shabbos Goyische Boomers to extract your heads from your asses?nbsp; Cause we're running outta time, Holmes.

Posted by: John Bercow at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (jXl61)

223 That's Lieutenant Colonel Doctor Professor Pamela S. Karlan, bub.
Posted by: wth at December 04, 2019 01:43 PM (v0R5T)

********

Esquire

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (flINI)

224 ace you have a caller just in from the torchlight parade, might want to send him off to the Bierstube to meet his kameraden

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (QDnY+)

225
Epstein's job was to compromise the rich and powerful movers and shakers. Get pictures and tape of them with his Lolitas, which then lets them be pw0ned by the intel agencies.

And again, not just the Mossad, although the Maxwells had strong ties, but everybody.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (f1Vqw)

226 (am I doing it right? I'm kinda new at this...)

Throw in some faulty html code, acronyms that no one uses, and a few number series and you're there.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (yQpMk)

227 Right up until the time of the IPO and grownups started looking at the books and the founder steps down but not after cashing out for billions himself.

Yeah, that's not capitalism.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (mf5HN)
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Sounds just like the tech bubble but with better and slicker tech.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (qC1Sy)

228 More recently, look at WeWork and oh this, er, office releasing company with some bizarre tech hip neo hippie overlay is worth billions and billions!

Right up until the time of the IPO and grownups started looking at the books and the founder steps down but not after cashing out for billions himself.

Yeah, that's not capitalism.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (mf5HN)
++++++++++++++
It might be fraud. Companies like WeWork are cash furnaces but they do disclose the fact that they're cash furnaces when they go public. They hope that their hype men can make "investors" convince themselves that there's some there there. There usually isn't.

Is that fraud? To paint a rosy story about turd but then disclose its turdliness in your paperwork? I'm not sure. I doubt it. Ludicrous investor credulity is stupid, wasteful and sure to make you go broke but unless they're lying where it counts (in the paperwork), it probably is what it is.

Theranos was outright fraud from day 1 and everyone involved in it should be in PMITA prison.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (I2dne)

229 211 Bass Pro paid a 12+% premium for Cabelas - 78% of the shareholders voted for the deal - they weren't all hedge funds.

Posted by: rammajamma at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (PQRcz)

230 I'm leaning that way now, too. The days of a 30 year career before parties and gold watches are gone unless you're a federal employee involved in a coup.

Screw it. Do your job, but look for another job on lunch hour at your current job. If they'll pay you 5% more then quit without notice unless it will cost you money, because they're not going to give you notice.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (EI6Yn)

I love when CEOs say "we're just a big family."

A big family, unless some members of the family are having trouble making their numbers, in which those members will shitcan other members of the family without giving it a second thought.

You know, the way families are.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (wpPM0)

231 Still not sure why these kinds of GOPe funders are so hot for open borders.

They have to know that it will completely ruin the middle class and the rule of law, to pick a couple of things at random.

I'm sure a few of them think they are insulated from the fallout, but not all of can be that deluded. And not all of them are ensconced in the trans-national groups that will supersede the federal system.

Is it sincere naivete or oikophobia?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (E7iEf)

232 I don't really understand the argument that I have to applaud whatever results the market produces. Sure, so long as they're legal, I have to accept that it can happen, but I can oppose it. Kind of like democracy. I have to accept the results of an election, but I don't have to celebrate or support every chump who gets elected.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
___________

Right, exactly, I think you can look at a legal form of capitalism and make the conclusion that it was greedy and self serving. That it destroyed people's lives and a community to make one inanely wealthy man a little wealthier.

It certainly doesn't mean I want socialism in its place, but this idea that ANY regulation of Wall Street is "socialism" is the same arguments for why any regulation of global trade or immigration is also "socialism"

I'm sick of the AEI/Singer/Koch bullshit.

Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (sjTfF)

233 90
>>>What is the Fusion link? Was it the WFB/Jeb initial dossier funder reporting?

well, I don't know if there's a link, but Paul Singer funds the Free
Beacon, and the Free Beacon first paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on the
two populist candidates, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:38 PM (PbpT7)

Thanks, boss. Wasn't questioning the headline. It just wasn't immediately apparent in the post or the links what the Fusion link was.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (1CjJc)

234
I'm reading the Wikipedia bio of Giselle Donnelly (born Thomas Donnelly).

from the article:
"Donnelly was educated at Sidwell Friends School. She received her M.I.P.P. from the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University and a B.A. from Ithaca College and studied events management at Plymouth University.

"She" transitioned in 2018, so when "she" did all that stuff, "she" was a "he".
The world is insane.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (IttZ7)

235 I actually think the Mossad/Epstein connection makes a lot of sense. I'm sure we'll never really know, but what a genius plan. You catch someone with an underage girl, you own that asset.

I certainly don't buy that this was all about Epstein "sharing the love" with his "spoils" It was clearly a blackmail trap and a damn effective one.
Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (sjTfF)

I think it wasn't just Mossad, I think it was every alphabet agency who would stroke him a check.

And, hell, it's horrible and brutal and ridiculously cynical to use people like those young girls were used. It is also effective.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

236 People mock Millennials for job hopping but why the hell would anyone stay at a job when it is brutally apparent that the company will get rid of you in an instant?

AMEN!

I will be a good employee until you mistreat me or I find a notably better job.

Honestly, I wonder why I bother to give two weeks notice anymore. If they let you go, do they give you advanced notice? No, they bring you to a room with your manager and a HR rep and tell you to bugger off immediately.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2019 02:03 PM (9t0Zz)

237 >>EI's top tranny, "Giselle" Donnely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselle_Donnelly

Thanks, that's the one. You did a post on this person a while back.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 02:03 PM (bDqIh)

238 "You're mostly right and God knows I'd never be in favor of trying to legislate against this. But in TuCa's synopsis he used some examples of taxpayer guarantees as greasing the skids and not making it solely a free market operation; which implicated Sassy Pants even more.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 01:55 PM (y7DUB)"

Sasse not getting involved is a pretty damning issue. But it's also separate. His job is to protect his constituents, even if it costs him a job. He clearly bent over for Singer. If the people of Sydney should be pissed at anyone, it's him. Now i'll admit he legally could not have done much to impact the actual deal, but he could have put a spotlight on it and made the principles very uncomfortable. He did. Someone should beat his ass for that.

BTW- they were not "taxpayer guarantees" which is silly nomenclature. They were mostly tax breaks and savings that exist in the current federal code.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 02:04 PM (VpIIl)

239 201 >>we're not allowed to talk about this, of course.
Yup.
This is why I can't hate the "groypers."* They are questioning all this sh#t, though their focus is more on the younger generation of well-funded conservatives like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. They talk like people on /pol/ (crude and intentionally offensive to get a response), but the gist is: "What would you say you're conserving when you're already embracing SSM, drag queen and transgenders?"

*The Israel stuff is a different matter
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 01:57 PM (bDqIh)

*posts link in non duel American citizenship*

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10414087/ ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-mossad- agents-politicians-sex-blackmail/

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:04 PM (6gb7G)

240 loads of them, remember Epstein (who didn't kill himself) was staked by les wexner, and in turn he invested with leon black, of Apollo capital, who owns Telemundo, black has an interesting past, his father an executive with united fruit (brands) fell 40 stories because he wasn't guilty of corruption,

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:04 PM (hMlTh)

241 208 I'm not here shhhhhh

You want to talk about shenanigans, look at Theranos and the utter, brutal fraud there. Bad Blood is a fantastic read.

More recently, look at WeWork and oh this, er, office releasing company with some bizarre tech hip neo hippie overlay is worth billions and billions!

Right up until the time of the IPO and grownups started looking at the books and the founder steps down but not after cashing out for billions himself.

Yeah, that's not capitalism.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

WeWork was supported by SoftBank, which is the group for a successful tech investor. He seems to do poorly outside of a certain area of expertise. The firm has not gone public nor was it surprising that it was bleeding cash(anymore than it is a secret regarding Uber, Lyft or Tesla).

The founder got paid to give up his role so that others might try and make the company functional. But this is ultimately a billionaire making a stupid investment.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 02:04 PM (7nTlT)

242 There is a long, long overdue realignment of politics in the USA that is very necessary to happen as quickly as possible. The Donks have done a masterful job of freezing it in place for the last 3-years by tying-up Trump with MUH RUSSIA and now MUH IMPEACH!!!

We're running out of time. In fact, one could be forgiven for thinking that ship has sailed.

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2019 02:05 PM (DU2N9)

243
Re: WFB/Fusion GPS... During that op, Bill Kristol blackballed any mention of Fusion's involvement in the dossier over at Weekly Standard during its dying days.

He is Continetti's father-in-law, who was WFB editor at the time.

I strongly suspect Kristol was involved to some degree. Fucker.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 02:05 PM (AzW6q)

244 Is that fraud? To paint a rosy story about turd but then disclose its turdliness in your paperwork? I'm not sure. I doubt it. Ludicrous investor credulity is stupid, wasteful and sure to make you go broke but unless they're lying where it counts (in the paperwork), it probably is what it is.

Theranos was outright fraud from day 1 and everyone involved in it should be in PMITA prison.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (I2dne)

Agreed. If the turdliness is disclosed, but investors are too stupid to read the disclosure, then they deserve to get hosed.

Theranos, as you point out, was another story. That was straight-up fraud. Not investors' fault at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2019 02:05 PM (wpPM0)

245
I mean, why not? Money is tied to absolutely nothing but people agreeing the Emperor has not clothes. Let's test that theory.

It's like in Fallout how bottlecaps are the coin of the realm. Why the hell not?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

Of course in Fallout bottle caps were actually tied to pure water. But then Fallout 3 came out and Bethesda wanted to keep the bottle caps currency in the DC wasteland when it was a currency backed by water in the California wasteland of 1 and 2. So really their first unoriginal idea fuckup that they continue to this day.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2019 02:05 PM (d4Cay)

246 Real eye opener....in a Clock Work Orange way.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 04, 2019 02:05 PM (pB6Gt)

247 >>More recently, look at WeWork and oh this, er, office releasing company
with some bizarre tech hip neo hippie overlay is worth billions and
billions!
. .

Yeah, that's not capitalism.

Posted by: alexthechick - R

Yeah, THAT.
Makes me think of that movie "Margin Call."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (bDqIh)

248 234
I'm reading the Wikipedia bio of Giselle Donnelly (born Thomas Donnelly).

from the article:
"Donnelly was educated at Sidwell Friends School. She received her M.I.P.P. from the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University and a B.A. from Ithaca College and studied events management at Plymouth University.

"She" transitioned in 2018, so when "she" did all that stuff, "she" was a "he".
The world is insane.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (IttZ7)

Going to Sidwell Friends should be a big honking red flag for everybody. It's a Quaker leftist indoctrination school for the children of the elite who will themselves be elite. It's like one of those Eastern finishing schools that send all their graduates to the ivies, except for leftists.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (RD7QR)

249 I have fallen for that "We are a family" company bullshit twice. Been burned by it... TWICE. Companies don't give a shit about their employees. They'll get rid of you in the drop of a hat if you no longer serve their purposes.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (flINI)

250 Screw it. Do your job, but look for another job on lunch hour at your current job. If they'll pay you 5% more then quit without notice unless it will cost you money, because they're not going to give you notice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at December 04, 2019 02:00 PM (EI6Yn)

THIS!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (kw5n8)

251
When Ghislaine's daddy died, it caused a little mini-crash in the London markets. Ol' Bobby had raided the pension funds of several of his companies (for Lord knows what purposes). Goldman-Sachs was involved in it.

Anyway, the Brit taxpayers ended making that good, well, 50 cents on the dollar.

Yep, somebody got tired of Maxwell's shit. Ghislaine was his favorite, and there some very weird sounding shit about that, including, "Ghislaine loved Epstein like she loved her Daddy".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (f1Vqw)

252 Philips Exeter, that's the one I was thinking of.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (RD7QR)

253 ... and a B.A. from Ithaca College ....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (IttZ7)

Well hell, an IK girl? No wonder. That place will even turn a dude into an IK girl.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (AURKQ)

254 Well, in Ben Sasses's defense, he is an Eastern Nebraskan. Like all Eastern Nebraskans, probably doesn't even know Sidney and the rest of Westrn Nebraska exists. Carlson should ask Senator Fischer about this. At least she comes from Western Nebraska.

Posted by: plains Deplorable at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM (2L44m)

255 Honestly, I wonder why I bother to give two weeks
notice anymore. If they let you go, do they give you advanced notice?
No, they bring you to a room with your manager and a HR rep and tell you
to bugger off immediately.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2019 02:03 PM (9t0Zz)

Or you go in early to get some extra work done and find you are locked out of the network. Then the Boss rolls in and summons everyone to the conference room to say he's scaling back the operation. On December 15th.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 04, 2019 02:07 PM (q1Pj5)

256 Sounds just like the tech bubble but with better and slicker tech.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (qC1Sy)

Just slicker pitchmen and marginally more complicated ideas. "You see, we've wrapped this technological riddle, in a mystery, inside an enigma," people's eye's glaze over, and they never ask why they can't just get their cat memes the old fashioned and simpler way.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 02:07 PM (1CjJc)

257 >>>I strongly suspect Kristol was involved to some degree. Fucker.

I suspect that as well. Certainly a lot of Kristol Kronies got early galleys of the "dossier."

Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 02:07 PM (PbpT7)

258 Fallout. My life for you.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 04, 2019 02:07 PM (pB6Gt)

259 I'm not defending Singer at all. Only the process by which these M&A's occur. That's capitalism and the free market, which Tucker, if he's the libertarian he states he is, should defend.

Did he attack Singer for the business transaction or just his corrupting "conservative" pundits?

Incidentally, there's more than a market aspect at work here. Something can be totally free market but evil. Morality has to be considered as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 02:07 PM (KZzsI)

260 241 208 I'm not here shhhhhh

You want to talk about shenanigans, look at Theranos and the utter, brutal fraud there. Bad Blood is a fantastic read.

More recently, look at WeWork and oh this, er, office releasing company with some bizarre tech hip neo hippie overlay is worth billions and billions!

Right up until the time of the IPO and grownups started looking at the books and the founder steps down but not after cashing out for billions himself.

Yeah, that's not capitalism.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

WeWork was supported by SoftBank, which is the group for a successful tech investor. He seems to do poorly outside of a certain area of expertise. The firm has not gone public nor was it surprising that it was bleeding cash(anymore than it is a secret regarding Uber, Lyft or Tesla).

The founder got paid to give up his role so that others might try and make the company functional. But this is ultimately a billionaire making a stupid investment.
Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 02:04 PM (7nTlT)

The founder is now working with Jared Kushner as ann aide or advisor or more. (Things you won't read in American media)

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:07 PM (6gb7G)

261 The "govt. bail-out" part of the Carlson story was the key part to me.

That's on the voters, as is every bad thing they support, or tolerate, through their votes/not voting.

Demonizing ruthless but legal financial activity, like demonizing a certain ethnic group as our visiting Obergruppenfuhrer commenter is doing, are similar in their value and mindset.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2019 02:08 PM (QDnY+)

262 "Donnelly was educated at Sidwell Friends School. She received her M.I.P.P. from the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University and a B.A. from Ithaca College and studied events management at Plymouth University.
...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (IttZ7)
+++++++++++++
Ugh. I am an alumnus from one of those three.

I have loads of industrial experience now. I wonder if I should just leave my degree off of my resume. This kind of thing can't be a helpful comparison...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:08 PM (I2dne)

263 -
--
Well, in Ben Sasses's defense, he is an Eastern
Nebraskan. Like all Eastern Nebraskans, probably doesn't even know
Sidney and the rest of Westrn Nebraska exists. Carlson should ask
Senator Fischer about this. At least she comes from Western Nebraska.

Posted by: plains Deplorable at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM

-----------------

It's the same in Kansas.

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 02:08 PM (pMGkg)

264 On the question of opinion being bought by by rich sugar daddies, which do you think has more suckers-- The Dispatch, or Hotair VIP?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:08 PM (oVJmc)

265 Pretty much, whenever the GOP is acting in what appears to be an
inexplicably stupid or traitorous way, the reason is that, of course,
they're being paid to act that way, and they of course can't admit that
publicly.

You nailed it, ace.
Outstanding post.

Now I wonder who's paying Governor Kemp of GA to appoint Mitt Romney fanatic and Stacey Abram's BFF as Senator??

Posted by: mikeyG at December 04, 2019 02:08 PM (G1eBa)

266 from the article:
"Donnelly was educated at Sidwell Friends School. She received her M.I.P.P. from the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University and a B.A. from Ithaca College and studied events management at Plymouth University.

"She" received her M.I.P.P. from Johns Hopkins, where "she" lost her D.I.C.K.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2019 02:08 PM (wpPM0)

267 The men of the robber baron era were raised as Christians. It makes a difference. I've always thought the reason for the housing boom was to get more real estate under the control of the big players. They even convinced people to refinance places they owned free and clear.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (JKNZq)

268 "Portman was always a traitorous sleeze. But, I don't understand the issue of whatever my kid does, I'm for it. My daughter claims to be gay. Whatevs.

But I do not and will not support gay marriage, ever. I will not even show up if there is such a spectacle for her. I have a duty to avoid scandal.

I love all my kids. That in no way means I support every boneheaded decision they make.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2019 01:58 PM (Y4EXg)"

Amen. I actually used to be in favor of gay marriage. But after listening to Dennis Prager and seeing the Slippery Slope society has been on since legalizing it I've changed my mind. Holding to a traditional definition for marriage is no more discriminatory than requiring pilot's to have perfect vision is discriminatory against the vision impaired.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (3ufaJ)

269 Another stellar post, thanks ace.

Posted by: Max Power at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (q177U)

270 Theranos was outright fraud from day 1 and everyone involved in it should be in PMITA prison.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:01 PM (I2dne)

Of all the awfulness in Theranos, and there is so much, the one that breaks my heart is George Schultz's grandson doing the right thing and having his grandfather turn on him for it.

I mean, the grandson was pretty clearly raised right because when he realized the problems, he contacted higher ups in the company, and then, when he was brutally shut down, he turned them in.

And his reward was to get attacked by Theranos and to have his grandfather turn on him.

(The grandson got a job at Theranos and Grandpa Schultz was on the board)

This is where I mention my theory that the 00's and 10's version of cult leaders are the charismatic start ups that burn through billions of venture capital with nothing to show for it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (mf5HN)

271 I have fallen for that "We are a family" company bullshit twice. Been burned by it... TWICE. Companies don't give a shit about their employees. They'll get rid of you in the drop of a hat if you no longer serve their purposes.
Posted by: Truck Monkey

----

Preach it brother! I left a firm once immediately following the 'here's the new boss' party. When he made a big show of opening a beer and walking around paling with us telling us we were just like him and family. Hmmm - ala Warren as it were.

I got out before the bloodletting soon to follow.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (Y4EXg)

272 228 . . . Theranos was outright fraud from day 1 and everyone involved in it should be in PMITA prison.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
__________

This is about me, isn't it? How dare you question my judgment.

Posted by: Mad Dog Mattis at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (9vQJW)

273 Business model wise WeWork had an interesting idea, lease more discrete units of office space rather than whole floors or buildings and you generate more revenue. This is true. But you also have more administrative costs, and it turns out that exceeds the additional revenue. So the bigger they get the more money they lose.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 02:09 PM (7nTlT)

274 Well hell, an IK girl? No wonder. That place will even turn a dude into an IK girl.
=========

It's the constant rain all through the fall, combined with the lack of anything constructive to do.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (LISuA)

275 Uh oh, fuel lines is California....sort of.

https://tinyurl.com/slqrryk

Posted by: WisRich at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (G0vdT)

276 I'm reading the Wikipedia bio of Giselle Donnelly (born Thomas Donnelly).

from the article:
"Donnelly was educated at Sidwell Friends School. She received her M.I.P.P. from the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University and a B.A. from Ithaca College and studied events management at Plymouth University.

"She" transitioned in 2018, so when "she" did all that stuff, "she" was a "he".
The world is insane.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (IttZ7)

---------

So once someone transitions, all of the pronouns used to identify them throughout their entire life also flip?

So, can someone retroactively become "The First Woman *whatever*" just by transitioning?

Posted by: reason at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (kZVsz)

277
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2019 01:45 PM (PbpT7)

Back in the day, the old SPY Magazine did what I believe was the most in-depth expose ever on Bohemian Grove. They got a lot of attendees to speak off the record and even included a map, as I recall.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 04, 2019 01:50 PM (U7qMl)

I really need to read Jon Ronson's book Them: Adventures with Extremists again. As I recall, the chapter where he tries to infiltrate the Bilderberg meeting with Alex Jones is hilarious.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (kw0bd)

278 James Cabela owned 15%
The Cabela Family LLC owned 6.7
Vanguard Group owned 5.8%
Blackrock 5.4%
Michael McCarthy 2.3

It was a $5.5 billion transaction, and was full approved by the FTC.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (VpIIl)

279 My family's corporation was targeted and destroyed by a vulture capitalist. Did damage to a small town as well. Those types of people deserve *types deletes*

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (6gb7G)

280
I will say this - at my MSE company, our CEO (until recently, owner) does seem to take that "family" seriously, at least to a degree.

For instance, and employee here was having unending troubles with her old jalopy, so he just gave her a car.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (AzW6q)

281 http://bit.ly/2sDE9q3
******
Nervous Democrats Considering Abandoning Impeachment? | News and Politics

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (BqBId)

282 Ace, you start out your post by saying this is an important story, then of course the links and exposition of the story follows.
But to me, the important part was your take on it under the highlighted section.
I, being a rube, did not know how those "Chairs" worked. Most enlightening. It would stand to reason that politicians that get stored on a shelf in some think tank are in a similar situation while they wait for their next opportunity to "serve the public".

The more you know...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (z79tQ)

283 263 -
--
Well, in Ben Sasses's defense, he is an Eastern
Nebraskan. Like all Eastern Nebraskans, probably doesn't even know
Sidney and the rest of Westrn Nebraska exists. Carlson should ask
Senator Fischer about this. At least she comes from Western Nebraska.

Posted by: plains Deplorable at December 04, 2019 02:06 PM

-----------------

It's the same in Kansas.

Posted by: irright
________

No, it's not.

Posted by: U.S. Rep. Sharice Davids (Soros-Backed Socialist), Kansas 3rd District at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (9vQJW)

284 BTW- they were not "taxpayer guarantees" which is silly nomenclature. They were mostly tax breaks and savings that exist in the current federal code.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 02:04 PM (VpIIl)

I thought it was something about existing pension liabilities but I only watched it once.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (y7DUB)

285 "Or you go in early to get some extra work done and find you are locked out of the network. "

Last big layoff I was in, they changed the key cards for the folks they were laying off. Only they set them to stop working AM rather than PM. People came to work and couldn't get in the door.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (JKNZq)

286 AEI's top tranny, "Giselle" Donnely

Still waiting for a tranny to pick Zelda, Bertha, or Hortense as their nom de vag.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (oVJmc)

287 I guess becoming a 'woman' doesn't cure your MALE pattern baldness, oddly enough.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:12 PM (oVJmc)

288 The Elite university's produce people like AOC now, what a draw for rich parents that must be. Who will be the first to offer Greta a position as a visiting scholar?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (k3+G1)

289 A faction of the CIA through at least DyCorp was involved with Epstein.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (6gb7G)

290 I guess becoming a 'woman' doesn't cure your MALE pattern baldness, oddly enough.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:12 PM (oVJmc)

Is ATTACKWATCH still a thing?

'Cuz I'm reporting you.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

291 Just checked, Singer is a Jew and what's worse, he is from NJ.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (yRAFu)

292 >>I guess becoming a 'woman' doesn't cure your MALE pattern baldness, oddly enough.

It does wonders for reducing your chances at getting prostate cancer...

wait.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (XtZ7c)

293 Last big layoff I was in, they changed the key cards for the folks they were laying off. Only they set them to stop working AM rather than PM. People came to work and couldn't get in the door.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (JKNZq)
+++++++++++++
I worked for a company that did that. The system was also unreliable. I worked nights and about 2-3 dozen times I (or someone else) would be unable to get into the building. When this happened, the thought was, "so is tonight the night?"

We always took a buddy to the security desk so that if it *was* that night, we could coordinate making sure we got all of our things. The boss lost shit constantly.

Not a good place to work. When they did finally lay me off, they at least had the decency to give us warning. That was because it was pseudo-random herd-thinning but the shuttering of an entire division.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (I2dne)

294 Still waiting for a tranny to pick Zelda, Bertha, or Hortense as their nom de vag.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (oVJmc)

How do you make a Hortense?

Threaten to tell her pimp she was a bad lay.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

295 I think it wasn't just Mossad, I think it was every alphabet agency who would stroke him a check.

And, hell, it's horrible and brutal and ridiculously cynical to use people like those young girls were used. It is also effective.
Posted by: alexthechick

Were the girls actually underage or were they just barely legal and playing at underage.

Because if they truly were underage, that makes EVERY agency guilty of being a child prostitute pimp and human trafficker.

I don't give a fuck if you are law enforcement or a national security apparatus. You are just as guilty as the users.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (Yo3dV)

296 MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

So, College professors are now Judges, and Juries.

How, interesting.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (NgKpN)

297 Just checked, Singer is a Jew and what's worse, he is from NJ.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (yRAFu)

*adds yarn*

*carries the two*

*scribble scribble scribble*

SINGER IS CBD! I KNEW IT!

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

298 Oh c'mon. If we're going to move into a conversation about ethics and morality, this will be a different discussion.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (VpIIl)

299
I put the interests of my country over the free market.

They are not always congruent.

And consider what's usually called the "Liberal Paradox", although I'd called it the libertarian paradox to reflect more accurately the meaning in today's context of the term "liberal".

Basically, individual freedom and the free market don't always go together. Economic efficiency will conflict with individual freedom.

In such cases, I side with individual freedom.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:15 PM (f1Vqw)

300 The Reason I think House Dems will vote to Impeach - if they don't vote to impeach, they will face hell from their supporters Right Here, Right Now. If they vote to impeach, they won't face hell til next November. And they'll tell themselves maybe a miracle will happen. So they'll put off the hell as long as they can and hope for a miracle from the God they don't believe in. And then, when it all collapses, they'll cry just like Kamela Harris is crying today about how Rayciss America is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 04, 2019 02:15 PM (Kpl3J)

301 It's very important the story even aired; if Carlson survives this he truly is bulletproof. Exactly no one would be shocked if the Murdoch cucklings booted him for calling out a fellow Cloud Person.

The most important moment in the segment was the opening when Carlson announced he had mentioned what was about to air to a prominent Republican who replied he would be fearful to do the same.

That, friends, is the Beltway GOP in a nutshell. Excising the McConnell/Rove/Ryan cancer has to happen even to have a very tenuous shot at our survival as a free people.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 04, 2019 02:15 PM (iw59Q)

302 There's a Gisele in my family, she was born that way.

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (qYKU9)

303 Still not sure why these kinds of GOPe funders are so hot for open borders.

They have to know that it will completely ruin the middle class and the rule of law, to pick a couple of things at random.

I think it's a couple of things.

First, they're all culturally leftists. Everyone they know and admire all think open borders is compassionate and gated borders are bad, because reasons.

Second, I think they are watching their taxes and labor costs going up. They can't argue for lower taxes, because they're cultural leftists. What's left for cheap labor and taxes is illegals and H1B manipulation.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (9t0Zz)

304 and who was on the board of theranos, mattis, Kissinger, Schultz et al, they were party to the fraud, same with Enron, of course only the low hanging fruit like Arthur andersson were touched not goldman not bp, wonder why,

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (hMlTh)

305 294 Still waiting for a tranny to pick Zelda, Bertha, or Hortense as their nom de vag.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (oVJmc)

How do you make a Hortense?

Threaten to tell her pimp she was a bad lay.
Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

I hate you for making me laugh at that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (RD7QR)

306 296 MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

So, College professors are now Judges, and Juries.

How, interesting.
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (NgKpN)
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I didn't know the professor was in on it. Who knew!

Posted by: WisRich at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (G0vdT)

307 The men of the robber baron era were raised as Christians. It makes a difference.

I was just thinking about that exact thing. We're in a sort of neo-gilded age, where certain unscrupulous and extremely greedy men are getting insanely rich like Morgan and Rockefeller and the rest.

The difference is that these guys offered real value to everyone. Digging for oil or laying down railroads actually benefits all Americans. But the new robber barons are creating boutique excessive crap that only the super wealthy can afford or care about.

Henry Ford got insanely rich by working his ass off inventing things and working out better ways to produce a car just about anyone could afford, selling 15 million of the damned things.

Elon Musk tokes a few blunts and uses government subsidies to create cars only a few can afford.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (KZzsI)

308 MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

Then so is literally every president in the history of the country save, perhaps, William Henry Harrison (and that's only because he didn't live long enough as President to do, actually, anything).

So yeah, lolgf "Professor" hack.

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2019 02:17 PM (DU2N9)

309 Still waiting for a tranny to pick Zelda, Bertha, or Hortense as their nom de vag.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2019 02:11 PM (oVJmc)
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I was thinking the same thing. But I was thinking of the oldies like Gertrude, Honoria, Mabel, etc. Make Old Names Great Again - MONGA!

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 02:17 PM (/669Q)

310 231 Still not sure why these kinds of GOPe funders are so hot for open borders.

They have to know that it will completely ruin the middle class and the rule of law, to pick a couple of things at random.

I'm sure a few of them think they are insulated from the fallout, but not all of can be that deluded. And not all of them are ensconced in the trans-national groups that will supersede the federal system.

Is it sincere naivete or oikophobia?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (E7iEf)

The goal is to maximize profits and destroy Western Civilization. These goals have been stated for over 100 years. Corporatism is Marxism with the Corporation replacing the State.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:17 PM (6gb7G)

311 279 My family's corporation was targeted and destroyed by a vulture capitalist. Did damage to a small town as well. Those types of people deserve *types deletes*

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:10 PM (6gb7G)

Bad debt covenants?

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 02:18 PM (7nTlT)

312 *adds yarn*

*carries the two*

*scribble scribble scribble*

SINGER IS CBD! I KNEW IT!
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

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Aww jeez, when did AoSHQ start doing "agile?"

Posted by: reason at December 04, 2019 02:18 PM (kZVsz)

313 I think today's proceedings will just go one step further towards convincing the public that most professors are worthless pieces of shit.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 02:18 PM (XtZ7c)

314 295:
Because if they truly were underage, that makes EVERY agency guilty of being a child prostitute pimp and human trafficker."

Why would that bother them?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 04, 2019 02:18 PM (iw59Q)

315 He's a professor of Orangemanbad, with tenure.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 04, 2019 02:18 PM (xfb67)

316 Future Trump Tweet: It is nice to see Boris Johnson pal around with the leftist leaders of Canada and France at the expense of the one person most politically aligned with Brexit and the future of Britain. Good luck with your election. Don't come begging to me for special favors.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 04, 2019 02:18 PM (x852x)

317 We actually had some warning too. They went around and asked which people were older than 40. I had to argue with my boss about it, as he didn't know how old I was.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (JKNZq)

318 Source of funding
A 2013 study by Drexel University Sociologist Robert J. Brulle noted that AEI received $86.7 million dollars between 2003 and 2010, with the single largest source being Donors Trust, which has Charles Koch and David Koch as its largest contributors.[152]
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The Cock Brothers are the biggest funders of AEI

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (BqBId)

319 Still waiting for a tranny to pick Zelda, Bertha, or Hortense as their nom de vag.

They only pick stripper names. Its like playing a video game and creating your character, but you play a girl and name her Britnie or Sapphire because who wants to play Helga or Myrna?

*I deliberately made a Dwarven female priest in World of Warcraft named Brunhildh because of this. Tired of seeing the stripper elves in skimpy outfits with hooker names

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (KZzsI)

320 My grandma was Blanche

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (k3+G1)

321 Business model wise WeWork had an interesting idea, lease more discrete units of office space rather than whole floors or buildings and you generate more revenue. This is true. But you also have more administrative costs, and it turns out that exceeds the additional revenue. So the bigger they get the more money they lose.
Posted by: Someguy

Still don't see how. We have their competitor Common Desk in our building. They have two switchboard operators/staff. That's it.

Maintenance is supplied by the building. After hours cleaning is contracted. Security is supplied by the building.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (Yo3dV)

322 you have similar patterns in the uk, Cameron one of their top men, apprenticed with mckinsey, like the successor finance minister in the Ukraine after natalie jareckas, goldman is where sky dragon worshiping aussie liberal turnbull was from

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (hMlTh)

323 -
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MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

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Real question is: What does Gilligan say?

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (pMGkg)

324 >>>I wouldn't be surprised if Trump orders the GOP House to vote for impeachment. Then he controls the narrative for the rest of the year.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2019 01:34 PM (yRAFu)

LMAO!!!

Posted by: Max Power at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (q177U)

325 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:13 PM (I2dne)

Company I once worked for wanted a Security assessment done of the Network I worked on.

The hired my ROOMATE (guy I was allowing to live in my house after his divorce).

They then 'downsized' me, and told him to ensure I had no access to anything, not knowing the guy was working from my Home Office.

Needless to say, we were laughing, and a lot of the money they paid, to supposedly lock me out of the network, was then paid to me as Rent.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (NgKpN)

326 My family had a corporation. It was a non profit, but not because we wanted it that way.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (xfb67)

327 ABC News@ABC
Noah Feldman: "I don't think it's possible to emphasize this strongly enough: a president who will not cooperate in an impeachment inquiry is putting himself above the law."

"Putting yourself above the law as president is the core of an impeachable offense."

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Sumbitch won't put his head in the noose.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)

328 For instance, and employee here was having unending troubles with her old jalopy, so he just gave her a car.

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I appreciate the sentiment, but he never should have made it public. Tell her he's taking it back if she didn't pretend to buy it, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (EI6Yn)

329 >> They have to know that it will completely ruin the middle class

That's a feature, not a bug to them. Well the elites who control them. They want to destroy the American middle class. The American middle class is independent and can't be controlled. It was the greatest result of the system created by the Founders.

It is anathema to the world elite. They want to take America and the independent, rugged individualist ethos down.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (f1Vqw)

330 nood lib tears

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (1CjJc)

331 Make Old Names Great Again - MONGA!

Joe Biden is trying to, with his 23 Skidoo Tour or whatever.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (ZGrMX)

332 Didn't Patrick Bateman also work in Mergers & Acquisitions?

Posted by: Augustine at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (BDZWU)

333 Lotta anti Israel conspiracy around these parts.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (XtZ7c)

334 As someone who has been self employed for over 25 years. There's days where it would be nice to work somewhere, not have to sweat making payroll, taxes and working 70 hour weeks. Then there's times I hear about people getting laid off etc. Known way too many folks in that boat. Plus I don't have a ton of office politics to deal with. One thing I will disagree on. As the owner of a small biz. I do care about my employees. Maybe it's because most have been with me 10-15 years. I know their families and their kids. I try to treat them as I want to be treated. They are a good group of folks. Anyone who's not was gotten rid of years ago.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (r7Fvf)

335 308 MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

Then so is literally every president in the history of the country save, perhaps, William Henry Harrison (and that's only because he didn't live long enough as President to do, actually, anything).

So yeah, lolgf "Professor" hack.
Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2019 02:17 PM (DU2N9)

[Shrugs] With a brief search I can probably find a professor who is willing to say that every American currently alive who is not somewhere to the left of Mao is a racist who deserves to be in a camp.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

336 Second, I think they are watching their taxes and labor costs going up. They can't argue for lower taxes, because they're cultural leftists. What's left for cheap labor and taxes is illegals and H1B manipulation.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2019 02:16 PM (9t0Zz)
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Ding. Ding. Ding.

Moreover, they're old-world aristocrats. They want serfs. I think it less about their own wealth than it is about their power of masses of people. H1Bs are kept men. Illegals are kept men.

I think they'd happily pay higher taxes if they got more power over people's lives in exchange. But more taxes don't guarantee that, so they'll happily back creating populations of servile serfs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (I2dne)

337 323 -
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MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

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Real question is: What does Gilligan say?

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (pMGkg)

Mary Annes hotter, but Ginger does butt stuff.

And NO! I'm not the Skipper's 'little buddy'

Posted by: Gilligan at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (NgKpN)

338 I backed Walker till he made that flip. But even before that, he really showed no "pizazz", not even solid dry speeches. He was flat ... over at legal insurrection some guys said (their sources said) "come to us for support for governor", but they didn't see him as prez' material.

Then I tried Cruz, but imo he got a little flippy, and Trump emerged quickly as the strong contender to take on DeepState (which I though was a big deal even then).

Now America is recognizing our liberty is at stake ... more are being red-pilled. Minorities even, are seeing Trump being treated poorly by "The Man". I think they can relate to the corrupt "powers that be" condescending to the popular will. Or at least that is my hope.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2019 02:21 PM (Cus5s)

339 I put the interests of my country over the free market.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:15 PM (f1Vqw)

Concur. I'm, first and foremost, an American. I'm a free-marketer long, long afterward.

I didn't swear to support and defend the principles laid out in The Wealth of Nations, though I largely agree with them.

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2019 02:21 PM (DU2N9)

340 We actually had some warning too. They went around and asked which people were older than 40. I had to argue with my boss about it, as he didn't know how old I was.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (JKNZq)
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Well, that sounds pretty illegal.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2019 02:21 PM (/669Q)

341 Still not sure why these kinds of GOPe funders are so hot for open borders.

Cheap labor and it doesn't affect them. Victor Davis Hanson has written extensively about this. They live in gated communities, they send their kids to private schools, they never go where the crime is, they shop in specialty boutiques. The only illegals they ever see are the gardener and the nanny.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 02:21 PM (KZzsI)

342 That's a feature, not a bug to them. Well the elites who control them. They want to destroy the American middle class. The American middle class is independent and can't be controlled. It was the greatest result of the system created by the Founders.

It is anathema to the world elite. They want to take America and the independent, rugged individualist ethos down.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (f1Vqw)

when Cap'n Kristol announced his desire to finish off the white working class, the middle class was not going to be far behind

Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:21 PM (U7k5w)

343 The way they have treated Trump shows us we didn't do nearly enough to Ofuckstick. His commie anti American ass basically skated for eight years.

They fake cried and fake cried because one time McConnell said he didn't want him to be reelected. Can you imagine? The horror!!!!

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2019 02:21 PM (Artth)

344 That's a feature, not a bug to them. Well the elites who control them. They want to destroy the American middle class. The American middle class is independent and can't be controlled. It was the greatest result of the system created by the Founders.

No middle class makes it easy to bring back feudalism, when the rich were kings and everyone else knew their place.

Modern progressivism is animated entirely by the anger of the rich that being rich isn't actually all that great. There's very little of use where being rich gets you "better" instead of "more".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (ZGrMX)

345 Make Old Names Great Again - MONGA!

Joe Biden is trying to, with his 23 Skidoo Tour or whatever.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM

On the art thread someone brought up old words and phrases. I can picture Biden tell___ folks as he sits on the davenport out on the lanai in his dungarees about all malarkey going on.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (r7Fvf)

346 333 Lotta anti Israel conspiracy around these parts.
Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (XtZ7c)

Where?

Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (U7k5w)

347 They only pick stripper names. Its like playing a video game and creating your character, but you play a girl and name her Britnie or Sapphire because who wants to play Helga or Myrna?

*I deliberately made a Dwarven female priest in World of Warcraft named Brunhildh because of this. Tired of seeing the stripper elves in skimpy outfits with hooker names
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (KZzsI)

There are two kinds of RPG gamers (guys anyway):

The kind who make male characters because they want to self-insert as the character they're playing.

And the kind who make female characters because if they're going to be staring at a pixelated ass for 40 hours, it might as well be a female ass.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

348 331 Make Old Names Great Again - MONGA!

Joe Biden is trying to, with his 23 Skidoo Tour or whatever.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (ZGrMX)

Monga just pawn, in game of life.

Posted by: Monga at December 04, 2019 02:23 PM (NgKpN)

349 280. you are blessed. Bosses like that are in short supply.

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2019 02:23 PM (qYKU9)

350 yes mnuchin was also from goldman, but he was basically from their film finance division, he was responsible for American sniper and Apollo 13 as well as the purge and the Snyder dc comic films

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:23 PM (hMlTh)

351 Still don't see how. We have their competitor Common Desk in our building. They have two switchboard operators/staff. That's it.

Maintenance is supplied by the building. After hours cleaning is contracted. Security is supplied by the building.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (Yo3dV)

The way I understand it is that they have the same amount of administrators to tenants(1:30) as a normal office leasing firm. I don't know if that's necessary or just because they operate poorly.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2019 02:23 PM (7nTlT)

352 Age discrimination laws have slightly less weight than federal marijuana laws in Colorado.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at December 04, 2019 02:23 PM (EI6Yn)

353 Thank you, Ace. This is what we need more of.

Exposure and focus on the puppetmasters, and not just the puppets.

Posted by: davidt at December 04, 2019 02:23 PM (l3+k2)

354 Noah Feldman: "I don't think it's possible to emphasize this strongly enough: a president who will not cooperate in an impeachment inquiry is putting himself above the law."

Nice assertion you have there, sport. Would take about 30-seconds to unpack the literally dozen or so assumptions you've made in getting there, and I'm not even a lawyer or particularly well versed in deconstructing such arguments. So yeah, lolgf.

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2019 02:24 PM (DU2N9)

355 And the kind who make female characters because if they're going to be staring at a pixelated ass for 40 hours, it might as well be a female ass.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

Star Trek Online.

My Main character is a guy, but I have an all female crew with skimpy outfits.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:24 PM (NgKpN)

356 Pretty sure my hash is the punchline to a dog joke.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2019 02:24 PM (Artth)

357 295 I think it wasn't just Mossad, I think it was every alphabet agency who would stroke him a check.

And, hell, it's horrible and brutal and ridiculously cynical to use people like those young girls were used. It is also effective.
Posted by: alexthechick

Were the girls actually underage or were they just barely legal and playing at underage.

Because if they truly were underage, that makes EVERY agency guilty of being a child prostitute pimp and human trafficker.

I don't give a fuck if you are law enforcement or a national security apparatus. You are just as guilty as the users.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM (Yo3dV)

PizzaGate is real. The children are as young as babies. Evil is out in the open. Factions of Law Enforcement, Intel Agencies, and the Defense Delartment are involved from The Founders to The Franklin Coverup to War profiteering (child trafficking) via "Foundations", DyCorp planes and helicopters were verified being used. Jimmy Savile and the Royal family. The Vatican. British intel. Mossad using blackmail on our politicians. And I could go on.
The tentacles of evil are connected and spread throughout the world.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:25 PM (6gb7G)

358 Star Trek Online.

My Main character is a guy, but I have an all female crew with skimpy outfits.
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:24 PM (NgKpN)

Space! The final frontier....

These are the voyages of the Starship Harem....

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2019 02:25 PM (KUaJL)

359 They were trying to make sure that they didn't lay off too many over 40. It was just weird.

They sent in the hatchet man from corporate. He got rid of Friday donut day, which was okay. But then he decided to get rid of the bottled water. I was in the IT department, where they said screw that and just paid for it out of their own budget.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:26 PM (JKNZq)

360 MSN headline: Professor, Trump guilty of Bribery, Obstruction.

So, College professors are now Judges, and Juries.

How, interesting.
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:14 PM

The same rat fucker was calling for impeachment a couple months after trump was inaugurated. Yea, that's solid.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 04, 2019 02:26 PM (r7Fvf)

361 Cheap labor and it doesn't affect them. Victor Davis Hanson has written extensively about this. They live in gated communities, they send their kids to private schools, they never go where the crime is, they shop in specialty boutiques. The only illegals they ever see are the gardener and the nanny.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Tell that to Mexico where the "rich" get caught in cartel crossfires.

You bring in enough lawlessness, you'll find suddenly find it everywhere.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2019 02:26 PM (Yo3dV)

362 "341 Still not sure why these kinds of GOPe funders are so hot for open borders.

Cheap labor and it doesn't affect them. Victor Davis Hanson has written extensively about this. They live in gated communities, they send their kids to private schools, they never go where the crime is, they shop in specialty boutiques. The only illegals they ever see are the gardener and the nanny."

Exactly. Add to the mix the Cloud People have bought property in New Zealand and plan to cash out and bug out of here when things get hot. Apparently they think it will happen in their lifetimes.

The Kiwis, from what I've been told, don't want these people there. Nice, lowkey people but they can get Aussie-like quite fast.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 04, 2019 02:26 PM (iw59Q)

363 I'm not saying this about anyone or their friends, just as a hypothetical.

Imagine busting your hump for years picking up the slack of a coworker and then the boss buys him a car because he always has such a hard time because of his decisions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at December 04, 2019 02:27 PM (EI6Yn)

364 358 Star Trek Online.

My Main character is a guy, but I have an all female crew with skimpy outfits.
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:24 PM (NgKpN)

Space! The final frontier....

These are the voyages of the Starship Harem....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2019 02:25 PM (KUaJL)

Channeling my inner Kirk!

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2019 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

365 346 333 Lotta anti Israel conspiracy around these parts.
Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (XtZ7c)

Where?
Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (U7k5w)

Facts are anti-Isreal in freaking America. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:27 PM (6gb7G)

366 354 Noah Feldman: "I don't think it's possible to emphasize this strongly enough: a president who will not cooperate in an impeachment inquiry is putting himself above the law."

I bet Mr Feldman had no qualms about lawless Obama's tenure. Fuck you, Feldman

Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:28 PM (U7k5w)

367 Posted by: Ian S. at December 04, 2019 02:22 PM (ZGrMX)

This is absolutely true. There is a hatred for, and envy of, every other human that also animates them. It may not be the solitary driver but it's in the mix.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2019 02:28 PM (Artth)

368 and a B.A. from Ithaca College ....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 04, 2019 02:02 PM (IttZ7)

Well hell, an IK girl? No wonder. That place will even turn a dude into an IK girl.

Posted by: Warai-otoko

They have a dude playing on the women's golf team there...its pretty liberal.

Posted by: Boswell at December 04, 2019 02:28 PM (32YRo)

369 I think it's unwise to ever look at the company you work for as a "family." The only way that's true is if you work for a family-owned business and your last name matches the one at the top of the paychecks.

The biggest change in America is that we've lost the sense of community that we used to have. I was born in the 1980s so I may be wrong but it seems to me the 1960s is when the national fabric really started to fray. That's when we started importing millions of foreigners every year and stopped going to church.

I'm not a Bible thumper. I'm an agnostic but I live my life like a devout Christian. I go to church every Sunday. I tithe. I teach Biblical principles to my children. As such I'm part of a community of a hundred or so people that I know on a first name basis, that I see every week, and that I know would be there in an instant if I needed them. That's peace of mind you can't buy and the kind you can't find in Washington DC.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 04, 2019 02:29 PM (3ufaJ)

370 The owner of the company I work for has always tried to do right by his employees, even though the pay sucks. And that really is worth something these days. Problem is that he just sold the company and I have no idea what the new owners are like. It's really time to retire.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:29 PM (JKNZq)

371 new Zealand where the prime minister, a ex pat brit, is a tool of mainland china

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:30 PM (hMlTh)

372 But you know that the opposition will demand who funds The Federalist.

I wonder how long Tucker Carlson is going to last on FOX News.

Posted by: mercenary13 at December 04, 2019 02:30 PM (rEWMP)

373 Awesome post.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2019 02:30 PM (vEIlU)

374 Me: Professor guilty of unlawful exposure, kiddy fiddling

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2019 02:30 PM (Artth)

375 Ace said "Perpetual secret rule by a socially-liberal, corporately archlibertarian billionaire elite."

SLUG said, oh, you mean like Chik-Fil-A?

Posted by: Oh look there's a Democrat slug. Pass the salt and shake it hard. at December 04, 2019 02:30 PM (ft9eU)

376 Real question is: What does Gilligan say?

Posted by: irright at December 04, 2019 02:19 PM (pMGkg)

Mary Annes hotter, but Ginger does butt stuff.

And NO! I'm not the Skipper's 'little buddy'

Posted by: Gilligan at December 04, 2019 02:20 PM (NgKpN)

Mrs. Howell knew what boys liked. Even sailor men like me.

Posted by: The Skipper at December 04, 2019 02:31 PM (q1Pj5)

377 "373 Awesome post."

Yes, ditto. Great ace take.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 04, 2019 02:32 PM (iw59Q)

378 Facts are anti-Isreal in freaking America. Didn't you get the memo?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 04, 2019 02:27 PM (6gb7G)

No. If criticizing Simon. Schiff, Nadler, Schumer, this douche prof, Feldman (as well as Zucker, Tapper and Todd) is perceived as anti-Israel, then that's stupid. If it's seen as anti-Semitic, that's stupid too

Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:32 PM (U7k5w)

379 Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 04, 2019 02:29 PM

Well said. What I will say is that I slightly disagree in the sense of not being part of a family. As a business owner of a small business I have 5 employees. Maybe family is too strong a word, but I apply the golden rule to how I treat them and in return I get great and loyal employees. My newest hire was 10 years ago. One has been with me almost 20 years. There's been times where my family gets paid last to make payroll. I know it's bigger in larger corps. But there are some owners who care about their workers and their families. I am happy when I can give things like raises and a bonus at the end of the year. It's nice to give back to them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 04, 2019 02:35 PM (r7Fvf)

380 Funny how all the guys you nationalists attack are JEWISH.

Let me say this very slowly for you dullards:

Populism = anti-semitism

You sure you wanna go there?

Posted by: NY Republican at December 04, 2019 02:36 PM (OJ6IY)

381
The owner of the company I work for has always tried to do right by his employees, even though the pay sucks. And that really is worth something these days. Problem is that he just sold the company and I have no idea what the new owners are like. It's really time to retire.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 04, 2019 02:29 PM (JKNZq)

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I used to work at a place just like that. Owner was a great guy, retired, and handed the business over to his son - who was perhaps the single most worthless person I've ever met in the world of business. I'm nearly certain the old man must have gotten cucked or something. No way that was his seed.

I made it 6 months and then bolted.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 02:36 PM (AzW6q)

382 well Fitrakis who landon Thomas did obliquely note, did show wexners organized connections from the local Cleveland mob all the way back to offshore players, Maxwell sr was staked in part with money from bain capital, as they would later partner with Huawei on the 3 m deal,

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:38 PM (hMlTh)

383 380 Funny how all the guys you nationalists attack are JEWISH.

Let me say this very slowly for you dullards:

Populism = anti-semitism

You sure you wanna go there?
Posted by: NY Republican at December 04, 2019 02:36 PM (OJ6IY)

Yeah, I'll go there. It doesn 't equal antisemitism and the Horde regularly attacks Biden, CLinton, Obama, DeNiro, Pelosi, McCain, the Bush family, and plenty of other corrupt individuals who are NOT Jewish. Stop trying to tar people with that bullshit.

Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:40 PM (U7k5w)

384 Funny how all the guys you nationalists attack are JEWISH.

Let me say this very slowly for you dullards:

Populism = anti-semitism

You sure you wanna go there?
Posted by: NY Republican at December 04, 2019 02:36 PM (OJ6IY)

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Fuck off right outta here with that shit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 02:41 PM (AzW6q)

385 Funny how all the guys you nationalists attack are JEWISH.

Go away, Stormfront.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 04, 2019 02:41 PM (ZGrMX)

386 there was on high end real estate firm I interviewed with, there was something that reminded me of the outfit in the firm, and after they turned me down, I discovered they were a mob laundry for Midwest interests

Posted by: gaius martius at December 04, 2019 02:42 PM (hMlTh)

387 You sure you wanna go there?
Posted by: NY Republican at December 04, 2019 02:36 PM (OJ6IY)

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Fuck off right outta here with that shit.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2019 02:41 PM (AzW6q)

Who is this douchebag "republican"?

Posted by: CN at December 04, 2019 02:42 PM (U7k5w)

388 Thing is the rich can afford to have all sorts of luxury goods. One of those luxury goods is a self flattering belief system. They can afford to believe all sorts of goofy things that are not true or real. It's just like owning 3 houses and a $250k sports car, they can indulge in all sorts of things that make no sense unless you are screamingly wealthy.

They can believe there is no downside to illegal immigration. I mean, why not? They know there are downsides, but supporting it is a signal that those downsides don't matter...to you. It's like a luxury good - supporting bad policies that will never harm you. Like having 30 horses, or breeding peacocks.

Like renewable power. Why not? Put solar panels on your roof, so what? What if they make no sense and cost $100k? It just shows you don't give a shit about money because you have so much.

One of the things they hate about Trump - his goofy beliefs are not their goofy beliefs, and no matter how much money they spend, they can't change his goofy beliefs to theirs. He's got fuck you money. First president ever to have that. Trump can afford to have beliefs that they hate. And trump loves that he can do that - nothing he loves more than having, and enacting, policies his fellow billionaires hate. And to have those polices succeed - whoa boy. That is why the elites hate him so damn much. 1) he doesn't have to do what they want 2) he takes positions designed to show he is more important than them - a direct contrast to what they want done. 3) their rich boutique belief system looks like the idiocy it is 4) he succeeds.

If the rich were conservatives, my guess is Trump would be a progressive, just to piss them off and show that he is the richest one of all.

So weirdly, the more billionaires weigh in against him, the harder right Trump is going to go.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at December 04, 2019 02:50 PM (+DS2f)

389 >> Who is this douchebag "republican"?

Just a paid shill who is trying to scare us off of criticizing his masters. Pay it no attention. I remember this crowd out in force on another forum back during the crash of '08.

They scream anti-Semitism anytime you criticize the bankster/corporate vulture class.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 04, 2019 02:55 PM (f1Vqw)

390 "No middle class makes it easy to bring back feudalism, when the rich were kings and everyone else knew their place."

Its more fundamental.

Between (((Soros))) on the left and (((Singer))) on the right you have a small group of people who think they'll be safer if they eliminate any white majority. Its a blood fued.

Posted by: Flubber at December 04, 2019 02:59 PM (PQnIX)

391 Look the ruling class always does stupid shit. Like wear frilly collars. Or have convoluted manners. There has always got to be something that sets you apart from the hoy poloy.

Currently it is progressive fantasy belief systems. They don't make a lick of sense...and that is part of the point. They are so elite, so rich, they can adopt these crazy ideas with no concern as to the consequences. The consequences are for little people.

And the layer below them imitates the beliefs of the elite because they want to be seen as elite as well. This validates the elite. I'm so important that millions of people will believe utter nonsense at my whim. If the king says that sky is green, who are you, peon, to argue?

Then along comes Trump - who is super elite. Above them in fact. He can have exactly the opposite belief system..and get elected, and tell them to their faces to fuck off. That is a huge quandary, right? I mean, part of having these goofy beliefs is to set yourself apart and above the peons. Now who is this elite guy showing you up? Showing you are not at the top, but are in fact one layer below? This guy is embarrassing you. Making you look bad. That is not supposed to happen. That is just not how these things are done dear boy.

Look how much the elites call Trump a tyrant and fascist, and dictator. He's not of course. But to them..he is. He's set himself above them. And no one is above them.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at December 04, 2019 03:05 PM (+DS2f)

392 14 It almost makes you want to pull for a Warren win.

Well, not really since Warren is as much on the take as the others but, a 5% annual wealth tax above 100 million net worth would pucker a few suntanned assholes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2019 01:22 PM (yQpMk)

Yeah...but as I'm sure you know, the problem there is that all the wiseguys know how to shift costs and pull strings so they don't actually pay that net worth tax and it ends up getting passed on to all of us yokels.

The lynchpin of the UniParty's Divide and Conquer strategy is that no representative ever does what he promises, but rather the opposite -- so the rank and file get burned out accusing each other of hypocrisy.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 04, 2019 03:08 PM (Hi8cV)

393 Good stuff, Ace.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 04, 2019 03:35 PM (SIP8o)

394 A town with a population of 6300 (presumably including a significant percentage of children and retired adults) where 2000 jobs are directly dependent on a single employer, had major problems long before Paul Singer showed up. Sure, the Elliott funds (whose investors include major pension funds) made a fat profit on this activist investment, but the Elliott funds never owned more than 11% of Cabela's. The owners of the other 89% (also including pension funds with both direct ownership and ownership through investment vehicles) also made a fat profit. Bottom line is that a whole lot more than 6300 people came out ahead from this investment. Efficient allocation of capital is the bedrock of capitalism, not an evil scheme run by the "Deep State".

Posted by: Snowflake Grill at December 04, 2019 03:49 PM (Isnf2)

395 There's a real opportunity here for someone to rise up and point out how working Americans, blue state and red, "Democrat" and "Republican" are being collectively screwed over by the political and corporate class. (Yes, Trump, but ultimately he's just one person). There actually are things Liberals and Conservatives agree on (like vulture capitalists are demons), but the media and corporate-owned pols keep pushing the divisions, to maintain their own power. They thrive and have become wealthy on the division that they sow relentlessly--it is their lifeblood. If the People ever rise up, even if not perfectly "united", they could regain their rightful power.

Posted by: markoni at December 04, 2019 04:07 PM (IIEz7)

396 Efficient allocation of capital is the bedrock of capitalism, not an evil scheme run by the "Deep State".

Unless you multiply this by hundreds, or you are one of those who loses their livelihood. Then you get the angers.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Proud Member of the Heterosexual Community at December 04, 2019 04:07 PM (zHGeC)

397 One step further - what made America great int he first place.

Back in the old days, Americans had a bit of a chip on their soldier. Up until the 1910s we were not considered elite - the elite was back in the old countries of Europe. So the whole frilly wearing outlandishness belief elite weren't really around much for us to deal with. They were in Europe playing power games. America didn't really rise in power till the 1940s.

After the 1940s we had the soviet union to deal with, an existential threat. that kept the elites mostly in line.

Now we are one generation past the fall of communism - guess what? now we get the silly frilly elite bullshit that Europe had to deal with all those years. At some point it isn't about money, the acquisition thereof. When everyone is rich, so what? What you need then is a good dose of status. And status means adopting a silly belief system and daring anyone to oppose it. And Trump is fucking that all up. They rather he steal their money than their prestige.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at December 04, 2019 04:22 PM (+DS2f)

398 Our nation's politics are either going to be decided by savage, brutish common citizens or by plutocrats like Paul Singer. Ace? At its roots this is exactly the same objection that the Democrats have to the 1%. People like Paul Singer own the country. As its owners, they claim the legally-mandated right to control it. Controlling the country includes controlling its politics. End of story.

Posted by: grayishpanther at December 04, 2019 04:32 PM (sqZQl)

399 Unless you multiply this by hundreds, or you are one of those who loses their livelihood. Then you get the angers.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Proud Member of the Heterosexual Community at December 04, 2019 04:07 PM (zHGeC)
The profit from this particular reallocation of a capital benefitted a huge number of ordinary working people, through pension funds and mutual funds that owned Cabela's stock. The investment returns that those funds and other diversified investment vehicles earn is the result of hundreds of profitable choices made every year. Keeping inefficient businesses running inefficiently in order to make jobs is socialism.
I live in a small town too, and we have a community development corporation that has been busy for decades making sure that the employment base is well diversified. Sidney's residents had a lot of years in which to do that, and they paid a heavy price for failing to do so, apparently preferring to live under the pleasant delusion that "it'll never happen to us". It's silly to point the finger at Singer, whose personal+family holding was never more than 2-3% of Cabela's stock. The Cabela family ran with this deal to the finish line, and walked away with a much bigger wad of cash than Singer and his family.

Posted by: Snowflake Grill at December 04, 2019 04:59 PM (Isnf2)

400 This is an important story. And it is for the first 1/10 and then the The View. When I say that I'm not going to give The View 3 more seconds of my time, I F'K'N MEAN IT!

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401 Any Rino they endorse should be removed from office via the will of the people, a mercenary works for the highest bidder and that's what politicians have become.

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