Gun Thread: Sunday After Thanksgiving Edition [Weasel]

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Well here we are after Thanksgiving and I hope you ate too much, drank too much, made liberals cry, and otherwise enjoyed yourselves. Black Friday has come and gone and I think tomorrow is the big online shopping day. I know my mailbox is full of online offers, most of them gun or ammo related, and I encourage you to take advantage of any you can. Have you made any gun related purchases this weekend?

With that said, let's see what your ol' pal Weasel has for this week, shall we?

First up, we have a question from our pal and delightful 'ette Emmie who sent in the following:

Would you share your views on a Sig P365 with or without a safety for belly carry, please? I bought one without a safety yesterday and then discovered it was available with a safety and the store will exchange it for me since I haven't used it. I am nervous about carrying without the extra security against accidental discharge.

How about it, what's your advice for Emmie? Safety or no safety? My advice was to get the one she'd be most comfortable with and would be most likely to carry. What do you all think? Am I a retard? Anyone feel strongly one way or another?

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Next up we have a training tool and great review sent to us by Erik in AZ:

Iím lucky enough to live in Constitutional Carry Arizona, and less than 10 miles from one of the largest public outdoor ranges in the country. And while I go to the range a few times a month, when it isnít convenient, or itís just too damn hot, I practice in the comfort of my home with a G-Sight 9mm Luger Training Laser Cartridge and the free app that tracks laser hits on any paper target. A $40 investment allows you to practice anywhere, and eliminates the cost of ammo to supplement live fire training.

You just insert the laser cartridge in your personal firearm, fire up the app, point your device at the target, hit start and then every time you pull the trigger, a short blast of red laser hits the target, your phone or iPad or iPhone makes a ding sound as if youíre shooting steel, and it captures where you hit the target. You can shoot from across the house, upstairs to downstairs, from behind cover, after a concealed carry holster draw, while moving... you name it, and thus imitate real-life scenarios. All from the comfort of home and without the expense of ammo. Or you can skip the target altogether and just shoot various things around your house - you can see the red flash hit what youíre aiming at and verify by sight how well you hit what you were aiming at.

If you have a Glock or other striker fired pistol, you do have to rack the slide for every trigger pull, but if your firearm has a hammer, just keep pulling the trigger and racking up hits on target. For your readers who canít get to the range or want to save on ammo, this is a great tool.

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We've looked at a number of these over the last year and this seems like a nifty example. It appears especially useful for practicing drawing and target acquisition for those whose range will not allow it. It's reasonably priced and not overly complicated to use. Thanks Erik in AZ for sending this in with a product review!

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Next up we have this excellent family gun sent in by our pal Rihar:

I've gotten some conflicting information about this Remington model 4 .22. It's in need of some freshening up but it still shoots accurately. At first I thought it was a garden gun made for shooting birds in a barn without shooting holes in the walls but the barrel is rifled. It's been on the family farm, a Texas Century Ranch, for as long as anyone in my family can remember. Does anyone in the AOS Community know anything about it and others like it?

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Now is this cooler than a box of penguin turds, or what? I just love old family guns! Does anyone have any information on the Remington Model 4, or an approximate date of manufacture based on the serial number? Let's give Rihar a hand!

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Link-O-Rama

Same as last week, people. Buy ammo.

AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
Palmetto State Armory
SG Ammo
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan

***Mail Bag***

From mostly lurker WTM comes these interesting displays in the collection of The Bryan Museum in Galveston, TX, including numerous mint Winchester 1873ís and 1886ís, as well as early S&W revolvers.

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Also their exhibition on the Texas Cowgirl:

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Thanks for sending these in, WTM!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Woo Hoo!!!! Gun thread!!! Now for content

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2019 07:00 PM (ZfBVE)

2 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:01 PM (ZCEU2)

3 Gunga la gunga !

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2019 07:01 PM (arJlL)

4 boonetrading.com/narwhal-ivory/products/narwhal-tusk
www.uline.com/BL_3931/Carbon-Dioxide-Extinguishers

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:02 PM (ZCEU2)

5 I picked up 1K 9mm Blazzer because I could inexpensively.

Currently looking for a concealed holster for my new CZ 75.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 07:04 PM (Y4EXg)

6 Both my shopping buddy and the store clerk felt strongly that I buy a gun without a safety.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:04 PM (87gB3)

7 https://www.remington.com/model-4-rolling-block

you should be able to date range the serial number on the Remington page as well...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:06 PM (PkW5Q)

8 Fortunately for all concern, there is no apple in doggeh's mouth. Otherwise ... there might be trouble ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pressure Cooking Learning Critic ... at December 01, 2019 07:06 PM (LPnfS)

9 That G-Sight dealie looks pretty cool!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:06 PM (87gB3)

10 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?


Roofing hatchet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 01, 2019 07:07 PM (yQpMk)

11 Well My nephew and I went to the range yesterday, Stayed about an hour as it was a bit chilly outside and my nephew had to get back home to do the cooking for Thanksgiving Part II.

I was able to put 90 rounds down range at about 8 or 9 yards, Still a little low, left but I am obliterating the target in that area. I will send pictures to the gun thread for next week.

All in all I was very happy with my grouping.

We had brought my nephews .308 and AR15 in .223 but did not have time to use them.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2019 07:07 PM (ZfBVE)

12 On the 365, assuming it is carried in a pocket holster that covers the trigger, should not make a difference. Though, for all around use I would probably go with the safety if the price is the same. One can also retrofit a safety on the gun with a kit Sig sells. BTW I tried one of there, extraordinarily accurate gun.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 01, 2019 07:08 PM (Lyt07)

13 2
No firearm what's the first thing you grab?

Posted by: Skip


Narwhal tusk.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:10 PM (LOq4H)

14 I practice in the comfort of my home with a G-Sight 9mm Luger Training Laser Cartridge {...}

Erik in AZ


This looks real good!

Posted by: Adriane the Pressure Cooking Learning Critic ... at December 01, 2019 07:10 PM (LPnfS)

15 I do keep my Gerber fighting knife close at night

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:10 PM (ZCEU2)

16 Firearms related? I just got a S&W model17-4 with the 8&3/8" barrel, does that count?

Posted by: Panhandler at December 01, 2019 07:11 PM (S/rwf)

17 Wow!! That is a number 4 rolling block. A gun I covet... Love early 22s like that. There is a book called Walnut and Steel that I am pretty sure covers it. It is a current printing...Hope this helps some.

Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 07:11 PM (ouR/N)

18 Out in the yard I have a machete

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:11 PM (ZCEU2)

19 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?

Posted by: Skip


Narwhal tusk.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:10 PM (LOq4H)


LOL

Ding ding ding ding

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 01, 2019 07:12 PM (aS1PU)

20 16 Firearms related? I just got a S&W model17-4 with the 8&3/8" barrel, does that count?
Posted by: Panhandler at December 01, 2019 07:11 PM (S/rwf)
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Sure does!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

21 last serial number was 356,000, so it's not the newest one out there...

is it a take down model?

owner's manual here
https://www.remington.com/sites/default/
files/Model%204%20Rolling%20Block.pdf

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:12 PM (PkW5Q)

22 The Remington model 4 was introduced in 1890 and discontinued in 1933. It's a rolling block action single shot and can handle 22 shorts, longs and long rifle.

The rollng block is a simple, utterly reliable action and goes back to the 1870s. A ot of the buffalo hunters of that period used them in 45-70 and bigger.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 07:13 PM (bmdz3)

23 17 Wow!! That is a number 4 rolling block. A gun I covet... Love early 22s like that. There is a book called Walnut and Steel that I am pretty sure covers it. It is a current printing...Hope this helps some.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 07:11 PM (ouR/N)
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Thanks Jesse in DC!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

24 use a dry chemical extinguisher, not a CO2 one.

they will be blind, choking and disoriented, so it will be easy to cave in their temple bone with the extinguisher.

just be sure to spray from upwind, or you will be in the same condition.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:15 PM (PkW5Q)

25 16 ... "Firearms related? I just got a S&W model17-4 with the 8&3/8" barrel, does that count?"

Oh yeah, it counts. I have a similar one. It is superbly accurate with a sweet, sweet trigger. They were made to close tolerances and I have to make sure to clean the cylinder star or it will be difficut to open and close the cylinder.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 07:18 PM (bmdz3)

26 redc1c4 - good point

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)

27 Quick googling shows the takedown screw begins in 1926, and they were made through 1933

Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 07:18 PM (ouR/N)

28 I decided to get the safety for several reasons:

I realize that a holster covers the trigger, but as a new shooter, I do not know how clumsy I will be when drawing and holstering. Some people have shot themselves when catching their gun on their shirt.

I also have zero practice not trying to catch a dropped gun. My natural impulse is to catch anything I see falling.

It looks like releasing the safety can be part of the process of getting one's grip, with very little extra time.

Apparently, some people have benefited from having the safety on when someone has taken their gun. It takes the bad guy a few seconds to figure out why it won't shoot, which allows more time for escape.

I do not have children in the house, but there is a household member who will be allowed to touch my gun, but has an ingrained tendency to do stuff without thinking it through. A safety may help avoid a mishap.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:18 PM (87gB3)

29 I don't like external safety switches.

1. If I have one, I might use it. If I use it, I might start to trust that it will work. One should never trust that a mechanical safety will work.
2. If I have one, I might use it. If I use it, I might overlook it in case I need to use the weapon in a hurry. I don't like putting unnecessary obstacles between myself and emergency equipment functioning as expected. I have enough things to remember.

If I want a weapon to fire, I pull the trigger. If I don't want it to fire, I keep my finger away from the trigger.

Anyway, that's how I look at it, thanks for listening, God bless.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:19 PM (t+qrx)

30 what is a "rolling block" action?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_block

want to build your own?

https://tippmannarmory.com
/rolling-block-rifle-receiver-action-only/

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:19 PM (PkW5Q)

31 Going to pick up my new Walther PPK/S tomorrow. Had one years ago and loved it but I had to let it go when I needed some cash.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 01, 2019 07:19 PM (JUOKG)

32 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?

The attacker's gun. If they aren't shooting but just brandishing, the gun will be mine.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 07:20 PM (lD3vL)

33 Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:18 PM (87gB3)
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All solid reasons if you ask me, What do the rest of you all think?

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:20 PM (MVjcR)

34 Snowing, so no range today, waahhh !

Bought ammo on Black Friday sale, .45 & 9mm, yay !


To Emmie's question, over the summer I CC'd a Sig P290 quite a bit, kind of a predecessor of the P365 and w/o safety.
Has a long double-action-only trigger pull that I did not think was particularly unsafe, in fact I kind of liked it because the operation is very similar to the DAO J-frame snubbie I usually carry, just aim and fire with a long pull. Simple and straightforward, and I have very long-established habits of keeping fingers out of the trigger guard when carrying in my coat pocket, etc.

That said, Emmie, if you don't feel okay without the safety then make the trade; first and foremost you need to feel comfortable and safe with your gun.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 07:20 PM (JwHjN)

35 Great practice app~!

You know of course that every practice shot (and your location) is recorded by Bob at NSA/Google/Apple/Huawei for future reference!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 01, 2019 07:21 PM (BiNEL)

36 That said, Emmie, if you don't feel okay without the safety then make the trade; first and foremost you need to feel comfortable and safe with your gun.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 07:20 PM (JwHjN)
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Bingo. And if you don't feel OK about a gun, you're less likely to actually carry it.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

37 I'm hearing a rumor that an announcement of Queen Elizabeth II's death is imminent. Not sure if real or pure bullshit.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2019 07:22 PM (bvAmh)

38 The P365 I shot had about a 4 pound trigger, like a Beretta. Quite a light pull.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 01, 2019 07:23 PM (Lyt07)

39 Hogmartin, that brings up an excellent point. A manual safety does not take the place of good habits!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:23 PM (87gB3)

40
No firearm what's the first thing you grab?

Posted by: Skip

...........
A Narwhal tusk!
But seriously.. that guy had some bi knives.
I would think a baseball bat.. something long.. and heavy.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 01, 2019 07:24 PM (438dO)

41 Hello, Horde

Spent the week with 'rents and inlaws, all of whom are not big on... well anything conservative. Like guns. I still bought some AR parts. And 1260 rounds of AK food

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at December 01, 2019 07:24 PM (W8Oxn)

42 The P365 is DASA

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 01, 2019 07:25 PM (Lyt07)

43
I'm hearing a rumor that an announcement of Queen Elizabeth II's death is imminent. Not sure if real or pure bullshit.

Posted by: Rusty Nail
....


A google news search come up with nada.
I would think it is one of those interwebs rumours!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 01, 2019 07:25 PM (438dO)

44 If I want a weapon to fire, I pull the trigger. If I don't want it to fire, I keep my finger away from the trigger.

Anyway, that's how I look at it, thanks for listening, God bless.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:19 PM (t+qrx)
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I see your point, hogmartin, Would you have felt the same as a new shooter/gun owner?

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

45 I am only comfortable carrying a striker fired concealed gun (in my case, a Walther PPQ) if I am not wearing winter attire or am carrying in a high risk area. Otherwise, I want a thumb-operated safety. Also, I do not recommend no safety if there is a holster retention strap. The only safe alternative is not carrying in full battery. How fast can you load a round?

Posted by: Radar at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (kOzB0)

46 I'm hearing a rumor that an announcement of Queen Elizabeth II's death is imminent. Not sure if real or pure bullshit.

Does she have dirt on the Clintons?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (lD3vL)

47 there is talk of her retiring...

i think she would have years ago, except her offspring are all retards.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (PkW5Q)

48 I'm hearing a rumor that an announcement of Queen Elizabeth II's death is imminent. Not sure if real or pure bullshit.



Posted by: Rusty Nail




Prolly started by princey Andy.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:27 PM (LOq4H)

49 That Sig P365 was a good fit for my hand. The rental I tried shot the tightest group of all the guns I tried, but all shots were a little to the left and below the center of the target.

I'm assuming this means that the gun can be consistently aimed and that either the sight was slightly off or my technique needs work.

Well, I know my technique needs work!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:27 PM (87gB3)

50 Prolly started by princey Andy.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:27 PM (LOq4H)


Having Andy as offspring would be very depressing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 01, 2019 07:28 PM (BiNEL)

51
Well, I know my technique needs work!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:27 PM (87gB3)
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We all need to practice!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:28 PM (MVjcR)

52 Cabelas is having a sale on the S and W 38 special Bodyguard DA only revolver. It's rated for plus-P ammo. A hundred bucks off the usual price and I got a rebate as well. The thing is incredibly light, 14 ounces unloaded and will no doubt kick a bit but should be manageable. It followed me home Thanksgiving day. The trigger is better than I expected. I just put a Hogue grip on it. That grip is very slightly bigger and should provide a bit of cushioning compared to the stock grips which are hard plastic.

I hope to get to the range a couple of times this week to test it out from about 21 feet to 25 yards.

BTW, this is the model without the built-in laser. For carry purposes, I think the laser is not needed.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 07:28 PM (bmdz3)

53 " And if you don't feel OK about a gun, you're less likely to actually carry it."



This !
I was thinking it but it didn't make it all the way to my fingers.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 07:29 PM (JwHjN)

54

I'm hearing a rumor that an announcement of Queen Elizabeth II's death is imminent. Not sure if real or pure bullshit.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2019 07:22 PM (bvAmh)


Randy Andy sent her over the edge? The monarchy has been in bad shape for a while but put that assclown Charlie on the throne and they might as well go to a republic

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2019 07:29 PM (CDGwz)

55 How fast can you load a round?
Posted by: Radar at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (kOzB0)


That was another consideration. I figured it would be faster to release a safety than it would be to rack the slide.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:30 PM (87gB3)

56 I hope to get to the range a couple of times this week to test it out from about 21 feet to 25 yards.

BTW, this is the model without the built-in laser. For carry purposes, I think the laser is not needed.


And "defensive" shots at 25 yards will not be seen as self-defense.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 07:30 PM (lD3vL)

57 Safety first!

I went to the range Wednesday and had a rifle slam fire on me. I put it on safe, dropped the magazine and the bolt had already locked to the rear. This was on a Vz 58 chambered in 5.56mm.

Disassembled the rifle and checked the bolt for the firing pin rattle, then reassembled her and loaded a new magazine and sent the bolt home. Bam!....I had a out of battery misfire as there was still a round in the chamber left over from the slam fire and when the new round tried to go into battery it detonated the round left in the chamber.

As I always keep my muzzle pointed in a safe direction, down range, nothing came of it but a hot blast of 5.56mm air to my face and a broken shell in the chamber. I was very fortunate and even though no one was around em-bare-assed.

I forgot the most basic safety check which is check for a clear chamber when you perform an immediate/remedial action.

Safety, safety, safety. Stay safe out there people.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (Z+IKu)

58 I see your point, hogmartin, Would you have felt the same as a new shooter/gun owner?
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (MVjcR)


Yes, honestly. The fewer controls to remember, the easier it is to learn and become proficient.

But in this case, since Emmie is already uncomfortable with the idea of not having one, I'm not going to tell her how to run the show. But remember that one of the most common recommendations for a new shooter is a DA revolver, and one of the reasons cited is often that the controls are so simple. They almost never have external safeties and rely on a positive trigger pull to prevent negligent discharge, same as a striker pistol.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (t+qrx)

59 I was always curious why bolt action was preferred over lever action in the military. I can see the advantage of a resting bolt action over the lever but other advantages to the lever.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 07:32 PM (2DOZq)

60 Unless Queen Elizabeth has a ring of power...

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:32 PM (ZCEU2)

61 And "defensive" shots at 25 yards will not be seen as self-defense.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy



Heh, as long as the holes are in the front, scatter the spent rounds 10 ft. from the recently deceased.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:33 PM (LOq4H)

62 The first thing Charles would do is make sure Camilla gets the title of Queen Consort. No more "Duchess" shit.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2019 07:33 PM (bvAmh)

63 58 I see your point, hogmartin, Would you have felt the same as a new shooter/gun owner?
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

Yes, honestly. The fewer controls to remember, the easier it is to learn and become proficient.

But in this case, since Emmie is already uncomfortable with the idea of not having one, I'm not going to tell her how to run the show. But remember that one of the most common recommendations for a new shooter is a DA revolver, and one of the reasons cited is often that the controls are so simple. They almost never have external safeties and rely on a positive trigger pull to prevent negligent discharge, same as a striker pistol.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (t+qrx)
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All valid points! Anyone else want to weigh in?

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:33 PM (MVjcR)

64 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?
Posted by: Skip

Well, Rapunzel from the Tangled movie used a cast iron pan and beat the snot out of Flynn Rider with it...and Dekard Shaw of Hobbs and Shaw used a four bay toaster to rearrange the faces of at least two attackers and knock them senseless with it.

Apparently, if you are at home and are attacked and you don't think to pull the butcher knife from the block, just about any other kitchen implement will work!

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 01, 2019 07:34 PM (C+rDW)

65
Safety, safety, safety. Stay safe out there people.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (Z+IKu)
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Oh crap! Glad no one was hurt! Thanks for sharing that.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

66 Question: Is this video real? Or faked?

Joe Biden at an event two days ago talking about kids rubbing his hairy legs, kids sitting on his lap, and cockroaches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-quyw6ys8Qk

Joe Biden: "And by the way I sit on a stand, I got hot, I got hairy legs that turn, that, that, that, turn blond in the sun. And the kids used to come up and reach in and pull and rub my legs, and watch the hairs rise up again. So I learned about roaches. I learned about kids jumping up on my lap. And I love kids jumping on my lap."

Looks and sounds very real, and it's the kind of thing Biden is prone to saying. But is it a "deep fake," or like the bad lip-reading videos?

HAs anybody seen any reference to this speech anywhere in the MSM or on the "blogs"?

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 07:35 PM (fK2gX)

67 Re: Sig P365: I like it, but in my case I'd like to see if I can get a mag extension along the lines of the one I got for my Glock 26. But if your hand fits around it and no such modifications are needed: go for it. It's compact and it shoots well. One caveat - my theory is that virtually all firearms work perfectly well and it's just a matter of what works for the shooter. I liken guns to shoes. They may look cool but if they jack your feet up, there's no sense in wearing them, right?

Give the P365 a spin at the range to be absolutely sure, if your nearby range has one you can rent, but I do recommend it. Very compact, and effective. If I can get mag extensions, I'll get one myself.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 01, 2019 07:35 PM (dJGLL)

68 66 Zombie, I'm not convinced that the video is real. Although.... Biden seems senile enough to have said it.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:36 PM (87gB3)

69 zombie - seems it happened but in 2017

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:36 PM (ZCEU2)

70 Is William as useless as the rest of QE's descendants?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 07:36 PM (PUmDY)

71 Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (t+qrx)

+ 1, agree , bingo , ditto, well said

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 07:36 PM (2DOZq)

72 Thanks, Weasel! I've lived in Texas over 20 years and have never been to Galveston, and now I know about that museum. And Emmie, get the safety version of the Sig P365, and practice with snapcaps. Then go to the range. A lot.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2019 07:36 PM (UUkQp)

73 69 zombie - seems it happened but in 2017
Posted by: Skip


Where did you get the info that it happened in 2017?

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 07:37 PM (fK2gX)

74 56 ... "And "defensive" shots at 25 yards will not be seen as self-defense."

The longer distance is for fun and out of curiosity. The serious target work will be within 30 feet.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 07:37 PM (bmdz3)

75 I was always curious why bolt action was preferred
over lever action in the military. I can see the advantage of a
resting bolt action over the lever but other advantages to the lever.



Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 07:32 PM---

Pressure. A lever action gun could not handle high pressure loads back in the day.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 01, 2019 07:37 PM (JUOKG)

76 Heh, as long as the holes are in the front, scatter the spent rounds 10 ft. from the recently deceased.

Revolver. No thrown brass to police.

Though I am trying to picture the scenario where holes will legitimately be in front at 25 yards. In urban areas that is the equivalent distance of shooting someone in their front yard a couple houses over.

At night, you won't even see the weapon. I would be running for cover knowing that the assailant has near zero chance of hitting me on the move.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 07:38 PM (lD3vL)

77 If I can get mag extensions, I'll get one myself.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 01, 2019 07:35 PM (dJGLL)


There are mag extensions at the Sig website.

And I rented five guns in order to choose the best one for me.

I chose the Sig because the grip fit me and I liked the sight and the trigger.

Also, the mag is partially double-stacked, so it holds more ammo than the other contestants.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:39 PM (87gB3)

78 zombie - seems it happened but in 2017

Posted by: Skip




Where did you get the info that it happened in 2017?

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 07:37 PM (fK2gX)


I read that it happened in 2017 too. I think at the same speech he talked about Corn Pop. Maybe he got into Hunter's stash that day

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2019 07:40 PM (CDGwz)

79 Re: Joe's hairy legs

This was the same event he shared his infamous "Corn Pop" story from June 26, 2017. Since this new clip has gone viral, social media is going crazy reacting to it.

PJ Media

https://tinyurl.com/vf8e6cx

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:40 PM (RU4sa)

80 Well, Rapunzel from the Tangled movie used a cast iron pan and beat the snot out of Flynn Rider with it...and Dekard Shaw of Hobbs and Shaw used a four bay toaster to rearrange the faces of at least two attackers and knock them senseless with it.

After watching John Wick, I'm going to grab a pencil.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 07:41 PM (lD3vL)

81 But in this case, since Emmie is already
uncomfortable with the idea of not having one, I'm not going to tell her
how to run the show. But remember that one of the most common
recommendations for a new shooter is a DA revolver, and one of the
reasons cited is often that the controls are so simple. They almost
never have external safeties and rely on a positive trigger pull to
prevent negligent discharge, same as a striker pistol.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (t+qrx)

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As one of those weird guys that still carries a revolver (or did, until the canoe trip, etc.) I'm on the same page as Hogmartin.

I have (had?) two carry guns, and neither have a safety lever on them.

The knowledge that the trigger is the bang button without any mitigation informs my carry posture.

I have in the past carried a pistol with a safety catch and didn't like it for the reasons already discussed.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 07:42 PM (cfSRQ)

82 I have an old single shot rifle, a Stevens 44 1/2 falling block that was built by my dad when he was a young man.After he died I found some copies between PO Ackley and him discussing the potential build, but I have no receipts to show who helped him out.
It uses a Winchester 52 barrel chambered in 218 "improved"bee which was an Ackley wildcat. Dad shaped the buttstock and forearm.
He had an old scope on it, a Weaver J2.5, but it has failed. I recently found a newer Weaver and installed that. It will shoot standard 218 bee, and fire form the cases... I am finally ready to take it out and sight it in. I am sure it has not been shot in 50 years or so...

Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 07:42 PM (ouR/N)

83 Re: Joe's hairy legs

https://tinyurl.com/vf8e6cx
Posted by: SMH
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It just gets creepier and creepier.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (plu6+)

84 I wonder what guns were being used in the cartel - police shootout relatively near the Texas border at Eagle Pass? The court house looked really shot up. .50 not out of the question by the size of some of the bullet holes,

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (2DOZq)

85 Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:19 PM (t+qrx)

I like your logic. We had a tragic firearm accident in my family due to someone trusting a safety.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (+mbOC)

86 It just gets creepier and creepier.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (plu6+)

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Dude definitely has issues.

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:44 PM (RU4sa)

87 test

Posted by: McGyver at December 01, 2019 07:45 PM (W8Oxn)

88 There are mag extensions at the Sig website.

And I rented five guns in order to choose the best one for me.

I chose the Sig because the grip fit me and I liked the sight and the trigger.

Also, the mag is partially double-stacked, so it holds more ammo than the other contestants.
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:39 PM (87gB3)




Have you watched some reviews of the different 365s?

Hickock45 has done some for the 365. He is not keen on the 365 sas.

Posted by: not so at December 01, 2019 07:45 PM (HALdu)

89 It will shoot standard 218 bee...
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Things you will only hear at the AoSHQ Gun Thread.

Posted by: .219 Zipper at December 01, 2019 07:45 PM (plu6+)

90 O/T Joe Sestak has dropped out of the presidential primaries. After reading who he was, I'm still unsure that he was actually in the race.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 01, 2019 07:45 PM (vGJY7)

91 Dude definitely has issues.

Posted by: SMH



Joe wanted to, Hunter did it.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:46 PM (LOq4H)

92 82 I have an old single shot rifle, a Stevens 44 1/2 falling block that was built by my dad when he was a young man.After he died I found some copies between PO Ackley and him discussing the potential build, but I have no receipts to show who helped him out.
It uses a Winchester 52 barrel chambered in 218 "improved"bee which was an Ackley wildcat. Dad shaped the buttstock and forearm.
He had an old scope on it, a Weaver J2.5, but it has failed. I recently found a newer Weaver and installed that. It will shoot standard 218 bee, and fire form the cases... I am finally ready to take it out and sight it in. I am sure it has not been shot in 50 years or so...
Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 07:42 PM (ouR/N
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Very cool!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:46 PM (MVjcR)

93 We had a tragic firearm accident in my family due to someone trusting a safety.
Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (+mbOC)


So sorry about the accident.

This is why you never allow a safety to take the place of safe handling.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:46 PM (87gB3)

94 We had a tragic firearm accident in my family due to someone trusting a safety.
Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (+mbOC)


That's awful. I'm sorry to hear that, clutch.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:46 PM (t+qrx)

95
Not only is "No Malarkey!" painted bigly on the Geezer Bus, but, I shityounot, they painted the definition of malarkey on the back of the bus.

I guess that's for the Doomers who know don't know nothing about nothing.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 01, 2019 07:46 PM (ockrg)

96 Off to put away chickens. BBS

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 07:47 PM (LOq4H)

97 There's a reason Obama told Joe not to run... twice. Plaque on the brain only gets worse, not better.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (bvAmh)

98
Dude definitely has issues.
Posted by: SMH
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As do we all. The difference is that most of us know it, and don't nurture them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (plu6+)

99 I agree with Hogmartin about keeping things simple and that was one of the reasons for my new purchase of a DA only revolver. But Emmie needs to practice anyhow and can train herself to release the safety as part of bringing the pistol to bear. Every time. It should be a reflex. And she needs to feel comfortable with the set up so she carries consistently.

My two cents.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (bmdz3)

100 A Narwhal tusk!
But seriously.. that guy had some bi knives.
I would think a baseball bat.. something long.. and heavy.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 01, 2019 07:24 PM (438dO)

A "loaded" walking stick or cane might be useful. Just an ordinary cane, with some lead poured into the shaft a few inches above the bottom.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (/sgva)

101 Watched an episode of Hollywood Weapons. If you needed to know, you can shoot two men with one shot as shown in Quigley Down Under.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (2DOZq)

102 He is not keen on the 365 sas.
Posted by: not so at December 01, 2019 07:45 PM (HALdu)


I did not get the SAS. I wanted less bulk.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (87gB3)

103 Emmie. Reading the thread already, my diagnosis is not towards the hardware (gun), but rather the software (you).

Seems you're already self-coded to work the operation of the manual safety into your manual of arms.

So don't go against the programming. Make the trade and then invest your training time into being as good as you can be *with* the manual safety operation as part of your draw and presentation.

And remember: "Aim Small, Miss Small!"



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 07:49 PM (QzJWU)

104 Another great thread, weasel!

Email sent, regarding new VA gun laws.

The guys in VA look to be going for it and if they get away with it, look for other state to follow.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:49 PM (WEBkv)

105 But Emmie needs to practice anyhow and can train herself to release the safety as part of bringing the pistol to bear. Every time. It should be a reflex. And she needs to feel comfortable with the set up so she carries consistently.

My two cents.
Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (bmdz3)




Safety or no safety the issue is training. How much more comfortable is Emmie with a gun with a safety than a gun without?

Either way the issue is training.

Posted by: not so at December 01, 2019 07:49 PM (HALdu)

106 I do not have safeties on my EDCs. Reasons previously mentioned.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 07:50 PM (Y4EXg)

107 HAH - Digital Care privacy cleaned out my cache etc and I just now caught it

Dad was/is OK with a spare rifle and ammo stored in the overhead in the event of a Zombie Apocalypse. Mom's short-term memory is non existent, so if she noticed she doesn't know it anymore. And if needed, there could be a horrible canoe accident on the river that borders the property.

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at December 01, 2019 07:50 PM (W8Oxn)

108 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:49 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks blake!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 07:50 PM (MVjcR)

109 I did not get the SAS. I wanted less bulk.
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:48 PM (87gB3)




The sas is less bulk and less everything, it is designed to be anti-snag.

Posted by: not so at December 01, 2019 07:50 PM (HALdu)

110 79 Re: Joe's hairy legs

This was the same event he shared his infamous "Corn Pop" story from June 26, 2017. Since this new clip has gone viral, social media is going crazy reacting to it.

PJ Media

https://tinyurl.com/vf8e6cx
Posted by: SMH


OK, it's real. Watch the full video of the speech, it's somewhere after the 6-minute mark.

Unreal!

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 07:50 PM (fK2gX)

111 This was the same event he shared his infamous "Corn Pop" story from June 26, 2017. Since this new clip has gone viral, social media is going crazy reacting to it.

PJ Media

https://tinyurl.com/vf8e6cx
Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:40 PM (RU4sa)
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I can't bring myself to even look at the video, as the description is disturbing enough.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:51 PM (WEBkv)

112 there is talk of her retiring...

i think she would have years ago, except her offspring are all retards.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:26 PM (PkW5Q)

She is a tough old lady. Remember her momma lived beyond 100 years. As long as she has her faculties, she won't retire and willingly put Charles on the throne.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2019 07:51 PM (/sgva)

113 legalinsurrection.com biden gone wild video surfaces-of-joe talking about children touching his hairy legs-joe chewing on wifes-finger

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:51 PM (ZCEU2)

114 This was the same event he shared his infamous "Corn
Pop" story from June 26, 2017. Since this new clip has gone viral,
social media is going crazy reacting to it.



PJ Media



https://tinyurl.com/vf8e6cx

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:40 PM (RU4sa)


It makes you wonder how many more videos are out there of Joe rambling on like that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2019 07:52 PM (CDGwz)

115 Isn't malarkey a synonym for fake news?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 07:52 PM (PUmDY)

116 Great practice app~!

You know of course that every practice shot (and your location) is recorded by Bob at NSA/Google/Apple/Huawei for future reference!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 01, 2019 07:21 PM (BiNEL)


And don't forget to post pics of your gat's serial numbers.

Posted by: Bob at Google with his Roaming Gub Hoover Bot at December 01, 2019 07:52 PM (1g7ch)

117 Considering the laser cartridge for BF Christmas gift. But if he can target practice in his house he may never get anything else done!

Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 07:52 PM (mn0Jm)

118 pjmedia.com/clip of joe biden sharing story of young kids rubbing his hairy legs in the pool goes-viral

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:52 PM (ZCEU2)

119 Thanks, Jim.

WestminsterDogShow recommended that I consult you and Weasel. You didn't happen to be active in the comments when I was trying to make my decision.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:53 PM (87gB3)

120 I forgot the most basic safety check which is check for a clear chamber when you perform an immediate/remedial action.



Safety, safety, safety. Stay safe out there people.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 01, 2019 07:31 PM (Z+IKu)

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Slap up on the mag
Pull back the charging handle
Observe the ejection of the round
Release the charging handle
Squeeze the trigger

IA drill for failure to fire AR/M16 family

yeah, they drilled that into our tiny brains at Benning, back when i was young and had a future.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 07:53 PM (PkW5Q)

121 For whatever reason, I feel safest when I carry without a slug chambered. If I'm going to shoot, it's going to be well thought out, and if the perp isn't on drugs, the sound of me racking the slide should give them second thoughts.

But I only carry at Mass. And I'm a rookie.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 07:54 PM (PkVlr)

122
Safety or no safety the issue is training. How much more comfortable is Emmie with a gun with a safety than a gun without?



Either way the issue is training.

Posted by: not so at December 01, 2019 07:49 PM (HALdu)

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Yes.

One thing Emmie can do is put the safety on each time she reloads, so that she regards the release of the safety as second nature.

Checking the safety will then be virtually automatic for her - in fact it will feel unnatural not to do it.

It's a lot like muzzle awareness. If you don't reflexively cringe at poor muzzle discipline, you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 07:54 PM (cfSRQ)

123 Emmie, go with what makes you feel good. After you have more experience, you may make a different decision.
For example, I carry a Ruger LCP without a safety, because it takes about a full one inch heavy pull to light it off and is double action only.
I also carry a SW 9 mm with a safety because it is single/double action. If I carry with a round in the chamber like the LCP I like a safety because it is a light trigger pull.

Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2019 07:55 PM (8+Hew)

124 Doctor video is a Republican talking pointer.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 01, 2019 07:56 PM (aKsyK)

125 121 For whatever reason, I feel safest when I carry without a slug chambered. If I'm going to shoot, it's going to be well thought out, and if the perp isn't on drugs, the sound of me racking the slide should give them second thoughts.

But I only carry at Mass. And I'm a rookie.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 07:54 PM (PkVlr)
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I understand.

I started off carrying like that and then, as I got more proficient, I moved to carrying in condition yellow. (round chambered, safety on)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:56 PM (WEBkv)

126 A "loaded" walking stick or cane might be useful. Just an ordinary cane, with some lead poured into the shaft a few inches above the bottom.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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My immediate reaction was that carrying a 'weighted' anything is illegal here. Double checked, and I was wrong. Only illegal if carried *concealed*. That suggests that carrying a concealed ASP Baton is illegal.

14‑269. Carrying concealed weapons.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slung shot, loaded cane, metallic knuckles, razor, shurikin, stun gun, or other deadly weapon of like kind, except when the person is on the person’s own premises.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 07:56 PM (plu6+)

127 I can't bring myself to even look at the video, as the description is disturbing enough.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:51 PM (WEBkv)


There's something disturbing about a man in his 70s saying that he loves kids to jump in his lap? /s

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2019 07:56 PM (CDGwz)

128 Skip, Tonypete - I answered your foodie questions in the other thread. Didn't see them 'til ten mins. ago.

Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 07:56 PM (mn0Jm)

129 When Bad Lip Reading makes Joe less insane than when Joe actually opens his yap...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWISyLpF8yg

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:57 PM (RU4sa)

130
I dunno why, but all these D candidates, especially Biden, remind me of that song that goes Ask Me No Questions And I'll Tell You No Lies.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 01, 2019 07:58 PM (ockrg)

131 Oh - I missed it. I'm an idiot- thanks kallisto.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 07:58 PM (Y4EXg)

132 There's something disturbing about a man in his 70s saying that he loves kids to jump in his lap? /s
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2019 07:56 PM (CDGwz)


Not if he's a mall Santa. Joe Biden is not a mall Santa.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (t+qrx)

133 111 This was the same event he shared his infamous "Corn Pop" story from June 26, 2017. Since this new clip has gone viral, social media is going crazy reacting to it.

PJ Media

https://tinyurl.com/vf8e6cx
Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:40 PM (RU4sa)
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I can't bring myself to even look at the video, as the description is disturbing enough.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker


The whole video is super-cringey and embarrassing to begin with, but to summarize it for those who refuse to watch it:

Biden is at a swimming pool in Delaware in 2017 surrounded by little black kids in bathing suits that he has invited up on stage with him as a campaign prop. Then he starts on a 14-minute long rambling virtue-signalling monologue about how back in segregation days all the black people thought Joe Biden was the coolest-ever white dude -- "He's one of us! -- in a very klutzy attempt to ingratiate himself with black voters. And he goes off on some weird story about a black hoodlum named "Corn Pop" who tried to jump in the pool while wearing black-hair pomade, and Joe, who was the lifeguard, had to kick him out, and they had some kind of fight, but in the end all the black folks just loved ol' whitey Joe. And then he goes WAY off script talking about how all the little black kids in the swimming pool where he was the lifeguard would rug his hairy legs up and down to watch his long blond hairs float in the water, and then they're jump in his lap, "So I learned about roaches," "And I love kids jumping on my lap."

And this was two and half years ago! He has only gotten more senile since then.

The Democratic Party is in big, big trouble.

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (fK2gX)

134 Not only is "No Malarkey!" painted bigly on the Geezer Bus, but, I shityounot, they painted the definition of malarkey on the back of the bus.

I guess that's for the Doomers who know don't know nothing about nothing.


I was at my cousin's place for the games, and we couldn't stop laughing. His campaign staff must be total idiots. At first, I thought it was an Onion article.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (vGJY7)

135
Posted by: Mike Hammer 2019 07:56 PM (plu6+)
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Meanwhile, a walking stick is just a walking stick, right?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (WEBkv)

136 120 - redc1c4 - thanks for combining the three posts. I'm technology challenged!

Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (mn0Jm)

137 rug = rub

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 08:00 PM (fK2gX)

138 ZOD.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:00 PM (XzT/D)

139 I'll believe Biden isn't racist when video surfaces of him sniffing some weave or dreads.

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:00 PM (RU4sa)

140 man oh man, did pixy hate my trying to copy and paste the comment by Mike Hammer. In fact, I think pixy even hated Mike's nic.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:00 PM (WEBkv)

141 Meanwhile, a walking stick is just a walking stick, right?
Posted by: blake
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Only if you wear spats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 08:00 PM (plu6+)

142 I bet Elizabeth Warren is infuriated with Biden's free passes.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:01 PM (PUmDY)

143 94 We had a tragic firearm accident in my family due to someone trusting a safety.
Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 07:43 PM (+mbOC)

That's awful. I'm sorry to hear that, clutch.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 07:46 PM (t+qrx)

Yes, 12 years ago. The shooter had never handled a firearm and the victim never knew what hit him. Tragic, preventable accident.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 08:01 PM (+mbOC)

144 One thing Emmie can do is put the safety on each time she reloads, so that she regards the release of the safety as second nature.

Checking the safety will then be virtually automatic for her - in fact it will feel unnatural not to do it.

It's a lot like muzzle awareness. If you don't reflexively cringe at poor muzzle discipline, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 07:54 PM (cfSRQ


Good idea! This also fits my habits, such as: I automatically check for my keys before locking a door or fasten my seatbelt before putting the car in gear. It feels weird otherwise.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:01 PM (87gB3)

145 Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 08:01 PM (+mbOC)
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Tragic. Very sorry to hear that.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:02 PM (MVjcR)

146 121
For whatever reason, I feel safest when I carry without a slug
chambered. If I'm going to shoot, it's going to be well thought out,
and if the perp isn't on drugs, the sound of me racking the slide should
give them second thoughts.



But I only carry at Mass. And I'm a rookie.





Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 07:54 PM (PkVlr)

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The Israelis used to have a number of "conditions" for carry and I forget what condition that is, but I have done it as well.

It all comes down to risk, and having a firearm that can be brought into action within a couple of seconds reduced your risk by a great deal.

The extra time you lose bringing it into action carry risk, but there's also the risk that you'll be shot before you can draw, or as you draw, etc.

Basically, there's no way to eliminate all risk, so one should focus on eliminating as much risk as possible.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:03 PM (cfSRQ)

147 And this was two and half years ago! He has only gotten more senile since then.

The Democratic Party is in big, big trouble.
Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (fK2gX)

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Theater of the disgustingly absurd.

Good grief.

Yet, PDT is the uncouth yokel.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:03 PM (WEBkv)

148


I bet Elizabeth Warren is infuriated with Biden's free passes.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:01 PM (PUmDY)


She gets all red faced over it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2019 08:03 PM (CDGwz)

149 One item of note - I was appointed to our parish's Security committee this week. Father finally got off his bottom and took some action. To review, our parish of 5000 or so has no organized security group/plans in place at all.

The deacon, a good man, is heading up the effort to get 'er done and he is very interested in providing some sort of group for protection during Masses and the kid's meetings during the week.

A win for the good guys!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:03 PM (Y4EXg)

150 man oh man, did pixy hate my trying to copy and paste the comment by Mike Hammer. In fact, I think pixy even hated Mike's nic.
Posted by: blake
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Pixy and I enjoy an uneasy relationship, all because of that one time years ago when I inadvertantly posted to a dead thread.

One little slip, and it goes in your permanent record. Be forewarned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 08:03 PM (plu6+)

151 They arrested a citizen in Illinois who shot a 14 year old in the chest who was trying to rob her ( pulled a gun on her. Pellet ) The citizen had a license ? to own a gun but not a CCW. ( you have to have a permit to buy a gun in Illinois? Holy crap)

Unlawful use of a gun is the charge. WTF.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 08:04 PM (2DOZq)

152 Meanwhile, a walking stick is just a walking stick, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (WEBkv)

If you have a "loaded" walking stick, and simply use it as a walking stick, who is going to know?

And if the time comes you have to use it to put a thug to sleep, then the "judged by 12 vs carried by 6" rule comes into play.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2019 08:04 PM (/sgva)

153 Philly talk radio covered the hairy blond leg story a while ago. I thought the host was just riffing on the Corn Pop story, but then he played the audio. Ho Lee Fuk.

Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (mn0Jm)

154 Anyone who has carried a 1911 over the years is well familiar with the proper use and operation of the manual safety.

One thing I do with any 1911 I own, is to upgrade the safety plunger spring to a more effect a more positive pressure against the safety.

This provides a more assertive "click", when moving the safety lever from "Safe" to "Fire", or back.

And it also holds the safety lever into "Safe" more reliably than a softer spring allows.

Not to think though, that even a stronger spring ASSURES a "safe" condition.

The only REAL safety resides between the ears.

But a manual safety isn't a negative, it's merely a training issue.

Emmie? I will say this though. Once you've got the gun you want, MARRY it (figuratively), for at least six months of concentrated training with THAT GUN, and THAT GUN ONLY.

Avoid muddying the making of your muscle memory while training, by avoiding mixing in other guns and systems, unless it just a VERY few rounds with another platform, just to see how it feels.

But don't train with any other gun. Yours, and yours only.

Until it's as second nature as brushing your teeth, then you've still got a ways to go.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (QzJWU)

155 WestminsterDogShow recommended that I consult you
and Weasel. You didn't happen to be active in the comments when I was
trying to make my decision.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:53 PM (87gB3)

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i haven't chimed in, in part because you already made your purchase, and, to me, it looks like your reasoning was sound, and you purchased a weapon YOU'RE comfortable with, which is the single most important thing, as others have mentioned.

Jim's advice on training is sound, because building muscle memory and good habits is important.

get some dummy rounds and practice until it is second nature to you.

/free advice, and worth what you paid for it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (PkW5Q)

156 And I thought the Corn Pop business was stupid.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (MVjcR)

157 "There's something disturbing about a man in his 70s saying that he loves kids to jump in his lap?"

No toys for you Quiet Man!

Posted by: Santa at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (Tnijr)

158 My personal preference is an external, thumb operated safety on my semi-auto pistol. Carry locked and cocked, safety engaged. Flicking off the safety during the draw is just part of the manual of arms. Glocks give me the willies.
Again, personal preference.

Posted by: butch at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (hXu8T)

159 Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 07:44 PM (RU4sa)

{{{SMH}}}
O/T
Tell Ex-ex to check out Stephenson's "REAMDE"!
He can thank me later!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:06 PM (BiNEL)

160 Who knew eating paste caused brain damage?

Posted by: J Biden at December 01, 2019 08:06 PM (LOq4H)

161 A win for the good guys!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:03 PM (Y4EXg)


Good for your congregation!

Our church has the most sophisticated security plan in town. Not because we're in a risky area, but just because when we do something, we do it up right!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:06 PM (87gB3)

162 Too early for Christmas, but the definitive 'A Christmas Carol' coming on AMC. Alistair Sim. There will be no discussion regarding this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 08:07 PM (plu6+)

163 EDC query.

I generally pocket carry my LCP 2 (next to my wallet, just because) and I open carry the 1911.

What is the horde's EDC?

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:07 PM (VcFUs)

164
Our church has the most sophisticated security plan in town. Not because we're in a risky area, but just because when we do something, we do it up right!
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:06 PM (87gB3)
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That's good to hear!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (MVjcR)

165 you have to have a permit to buy a gun in Illinois? Holy crap

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We live in S. IL and are moving across the river to MO for this reason, and many others.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/illinois/

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (RU4sa)

166 Its not just paste rotting Crazy Uncle Joe

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (ZCEU2)

167 thanks for combining the three posts. I'm technology challenged!

Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 07:59 PM (mn0Jm)

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de nada... i'm on a PC, and, IIRC, you're on a phone.

advantage: me

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (PkW5Q)

168 Is there an AR-15 build thread still in the works?

Got boxes full of pieces & parts waiting for Santa to drop them off later this month. 358 SOCOM and 223 Wylde chambers.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (1g7ch)

169 But don't train with any other gun. Yours, and yours only.

Until it's as second nature as brushing your teeth, then you've still got a ways to go.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (QzJWU)
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Yep.

What is the line, "Fear the man who owns but one gun, for he probably knows how to use it?"

Or some such.

Point being: Proficiency with your primary weapon is paramount.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (WEBkv)

170 Our church has the most sophisticated security plan in town. Not because we're in a risky area, but just because when we do something, we do it up right!
Posted by: Emmie
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We have *two* undercover Sheriff's deputies, at each service. I generally have a short conversation with them each Sunday.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (plu6+)

171 Good for you Emmie! Yeah, we have really been dragging our feet here.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (Y4EXg)

172 1. Seek quick cover and breathe.
2. Chamber, safety off.
3. Breathe.
4. Sight picture. Breathe.
5. Breath stop, hard grip.
6. Fire.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (XzT/D)

173 What was lieawatha recipe? Carrots in something that they would ruin. Like chili

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (PUmDY)

174 *waves to Hrothgar*

He says he already read it.

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (RU4sa)

175 But don't train with any other gun. Yours, and yours only.

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (QzJWU)


I understand. Will do.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:10 PM (87gB3)

176 Get what you're comfortable with and what you'll carry.

I've got a 9mm and a .45 with good holster and they feel good and all but I just don't bother carrying them cause i have to put them on.

So I went and got a Taurus Spectrum 380 and this thing I can just stick in my pocket like a cell phone and walk out.

So now I'm carry more often and feel a lot better about it.

No safety but it's a DAO and the trigger pull is enough so it would take some special situation for the trigger to get pulled and fire without a deliberate action.

I'm a bit edgy about it being a 380 but to go small that's just about what you have to do. And btw, I did not get one of the all colorful and shit ones. I'll leave that for others more style concious. I did have to settle for a flat green accent on black cause they don't make a complete black one. I think they don't. I never saw one.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at December 01, 2019 08:10 PM (cxIsI)

177 168 Is there an AR-15 build thread still in the works?

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It's on my to-do list! I just need to find the time to write it.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

178 On the old Remington, it might be worth a call to the museun in Cody, WY. I know they have a list of all the Winchester #'s. They might be able to date that Remington

Posted by: mark reardon at December 01, 2019 08:11 PM (6Ga8H)

179 For Emmie,

My LCP 2 only has a trigger lever safety. I practice keeping the booger hook out of the trigger housing unless I want a round to exit. The 1911 has an external mechanical thumb safety and I carry it cocked and locked like Mr. Browning intended me to.

I prefer the 1911's safety because quite honestly never had a weapon without one until the LCP2.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:11 PM (VcFUs)

180 It's on my to-do list! I just need to find the time to write it.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)


Which reminds me. You are doing a great job here. I, for one, appreciate it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (aS1PU)

181 Emmie? I will say this though. Once you've got the
gun you want, MARRY it (figuratively), for at least six months of
concentrated training with THAT GUN, and THAT GUN ONLY.


Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:05 PM (QzJWU)

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Good advice.

I generally don't use manual safeties even on guns with them because when I'm at the range (which is the only time I'm loading them) I intend to shoot.

And, as mentioned before, my carry guns don't have them.

This got me into a bit of difficulty when the Air Force decided that it was time to restart rifle qualification. The solution this problem is to develop platform-specific behaviors, so now when I use my AR (which is underwater, after the accident), I use the same drill we used at the range, complete with the safety.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (cfSRQ)

182 That's good to hear!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (MVjcR)


Yeah, but the bad part is they're already asking me to join after that first shooting session earlier this year!

I think they're mostly kidding.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (87gB3)

183 What is the horde's EDC?

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:07 PM (VcFUs)

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i live in #Failifornia, so i can only carry on my property...

i have Springfield XP in 9mm, loaded with 147 grn(?) JHPs.

because, if i ever have to use it, i don't want the thugs at LAPD getting a good gun they can trash.

same reason Herself still has her Glock out at the house. back up are no name 12gauge shotguns, pump action, for the same reason.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (PkW5Q)

184 Zod,

That is exactly how I picture an active shooter situation at Mass.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (PkVlr)

185 What is the horde's EDC?
Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:07 PM (VcFUs)
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Full size 1911. 45 acp.

One spare mag.

But, I'm a tall thin guy, so, CCW a 1911 isn't a big deal. If i was a big guy, it might not work as well.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:13 PM (WEBkv)

186
Which reminds me. You are doing a great job here. I, for one, appreciate it.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (aS1PU)
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Why thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:13 PM (MVjcR)

187 These Bloomberg commercials are cracking me up. My oregano plant has a more interesting personality.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (Fxgkp)

188 It's on my to-do list! I just need to find the time to write it.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

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assemble parts.
let someone else test fire it.
end of article.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (PkW5Q)

189 I believe that a cane can be considered a medical device, thus can even go through a TSA screening, but for those under 29, this might not work, and I doubt that a weighted cane would make through.
I think a good old fashioned hickory cane, even unweighted is a pretty formidable weapon close in, short of a firearms altercation.
I am sure I could arrested for my sword cane, though!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (BiNEL)

190 182 That's good to hear!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (MVjcR)

Yeah, but the bad part is they're already asking me to join after that first shooting session earlier this year!

I think they're mostly kidding.
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (87gB3)
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You should do it. It might give you more incentive to train!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (MVjcR)

191 same reason Herself still has her Glock out at the house. back up are no name 12gauge shotguns, pump action, for the same reason.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (PkW5Q)
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You need to move north into Kern Country, where we still issue such things. Bonus: Makes it possible to get a CCW from AZ, which allows one to carry in about 2/3 the US.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:15 PM (WEBkv)

192 I decided to get the safety for several reasons:
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 07:18 PM


First, congratulations. The P365 is an excellent choice!

Second, your rationale is well-thought out. May it serve you well!!

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 01, 2019 08:15 PM (DMUuz)

193 I carry a Sig 938 SA, round in the chamber, safety OFF, half cock. It won't go bang unless it is cocked and that happens as I draw the weapon.

Posted by: Panhandler at December 01, 2019 08:15 PM (S/rwf)

194 It sounds like some states require a safety. Massachusetts, at least.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:15 PM (87gB3)

195 Joe's hairy legs is 'bad lip reading' according to earlier threads. The thing is that '17 it might have been more obvious that it was satire but he is so creepy and these days he seems so out of it that it could easily be real.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 01, 2019 08:15 PM (n4y+3)

196 Have you made any gun related purchases this weekend?


Bought some small game broadheads and some predator calls. Almost picked up that m1917 Eddystone sporter this weekend. It has been keeping me up at night. Mama said go for it.

If it is still there next month, it will be mine.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 08:15 PM (1CjJc)

197 Thank you, Dunc!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:16 PM (87gB3)

198 165
you have to have a permit to buy a gun in Illinois? Holy crap


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We live in S. IL and are moving across the river to MO for this reason, and many others.



Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:08 PM (RU4sa)

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I was visiting with some people in Illinois and remarked about signs in farmers' fields protesting gun laws and they gave me an earful.

I then explained Michigan's laws and they were amazed that such liberties would be allowed.

And Michigan is no Vermont by any stretch.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:17 PM (cfSRQ)

199 Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:09 PM (RU4sa)

Good, I bet he liked it, reminded me of a TX MoMee at the end!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:17 PM (BiNEL)

200 1. Seek quick cover and breathe.
2. Chamber, safety off.
3. Breathe.
4. Sight picture. Breathe.
5. Breath stop, hard grip.
6. Fire.
Posted by: Zod


LUXURY!
My drill sgt (a former lrrp) would gorilla drill us until a our d!cks were dragging and then double time us up to the firing line. He would tell us if we couldn't qualify when we had just finished a 30 minute hand-to-hand and a 2 mile run, we weren't worth recycling to try again. His sadistic tendencies were the best rifle training I ever had and I was shooting cat squirrels through the head with a .22 before basic too.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:18 PM (VcFUs)

201 Wow, AL Michaels looks likes he's had more spots removed from his face than Dallas has angry fans.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at December 01, 2019 08:18 PM (Fxgkp)

202 Joe's hairy legs is 'bad lip reading' according to earlier threads.

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Yeah, those were wrong.

Only bad lip reading vid of Biden is what I posted above, which does not include his creepy story.

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:18 PM (RU4sa)

203 That model 4 a rolling block?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 08:18 PM (1CjJc)

204 And Michigan is no Vermont by any stretch.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:17 PM (cfSRQ)

If you vote D ever again, you may be able to fix that like my fellow VA residents have done!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:19 PM (BiNEL)

205 >>> you have to have a permit to buy a gun in Illinois? Holy crap

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We live in S. IL and are moving across the river to MO for this reason, and many others.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/illinois/
Posted by: SMH at


OT, sort of:

yet, no helmet (motorcycle) required in Illinois, but is required in Missouri.

Posted by: Tinker2Evers2Chance at December 01, 2019 08:19 PM (o9apC)

206 Ah, just saw 22. That's a pretty cool old gun.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 08:20 PM (1CjJc)

207 Ima thinking a bad lip reading of any Biden video would have to make more sense that Biden's actual words.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:20 PM (Y4EXg)

208 195 Joe's hairy legs is 'bad lip reading' according to earlier threads. The thing is that '17 it might have been more obvious that it was satire but he is so creepy and these days he seems so out of it that it could easily be real.
Posted by: PaleRider


I don't think it has been faked. I suspected so at first, but after watching the full video, I have become convinced that it is 100% authentic.

Watch it yourself here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihV9yrZRHg

Somewhere around the 6-minute mark he starts on the hairy-leg anecdote -- it's the same voice as in the rest of the video, the lips match exactly, and it fits in context perfectly with the rest of the tale of being a white lifeguard at a black swimming pool.

Watch it and reassess. I think you too will come to the realization that the video is undoctored and real, not a "Bad Lip Reading" treatment.

Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 08:20 PM (fK2gX)

209 I was visiting with some people in Illinois and remarked about signs in farmers' fields protesting gun laws and they gave me an earful.

I then explained Michigan's laws and they were amazed that such liberties would be allowed.

And Michigan is no Vermont by any stretch.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:17 PM (cfSRQ)


I've been assured that Chicago's high gun crime rate is due to lax gun laws in Indiana. No explanation why Indiana's gun crime rate isn't even higher.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:21 PM (87gB3)

210 Since I nor the hubs ride a motorcycle, do not care about helmet laws.

Do care about being able to arm myself properly.

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:21 PM (RU4sa)

211 >>He would tell us if we couldn't qualify when we had just finished a 30 minute hand-to-hand and a 2 mile run, we weren't worth recycling to try again.
Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:18 PM (VcFUs)

If you're trying to kill someone with a handgun immediately after finishing 30 minutes of close combat and a two-mile run, you will probably fail.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:22 PM (XzT/D)

212 Watch it and reassess. I think you too will come to the realization that the video is undoctored and real, not a "Bad Lip Reading" treatment.
Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2019 08:20 PM (fK2gX)

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Gotta agree.

Posted by: SMH at December 01, 2019 08:22 PM (RU4sa)

213 I've been assured that Chicago's high gun crime rate is due to lax gun laws in Indiana. No explanation why Indiana's gun crime rate isn't even higher.
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:21 PM (87gB3)

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Yeah, that explanation didn't have much of a half-life. Kind of hard to explain that one away.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:22 PM (WEBkv)

214 assemble parts.
let someone else test fire it.
end of article.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (PkW5Q)
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Ha! I like it!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)

215 I had the opportunity to run around in the woods with Mark and Lazy Messenger last week. I was carrying a 1911. Way too big for my 5'3 frame. I have the bruises to prove it.
I'm getting better with my Glock 42. Trigger is less clunky than the Glock 19, but not as lovely as my 1911.
I don't want to be a hero. I want to stop anyone who fires on my place of worship. I will NOT go
Down without a fight.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (PkVlr)

216 Bloomberg is a pusillanimous pipsqueak and the more that spreads the less he has a chance. Either way his money will be a danger we need to recognize.

His comments on the poor and his record in NY I believe will do him in. He's an example of a rich man trying to buy an office.

Of more danger (at the edge so far) is Michelle Obama. If she entered the race, all bets are off on Trump being able to overcome her advantages. (yes she's got disadvantages but not so noticeable)

She would definitely bring out the vote on both sides. And the race would be even more filled with acrimony.

And then there's the other danger of the social corps and regular corps influencing the race through propaganda, outright denial of people to speak and throttling the truth from being known. And they have a LOT of money.

This is definitely a turning point for the nation.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (cxIsI)

217 >>I will NOT go Down without a fight.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (PkVlr

Glock 23.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (XzT/D)

218 As concerns the sig p365, I have one with the manual safety, and highly recommend that addition, as it makes it a better gun for self defense.

This is because the pistol itself is quite small, with a rather abbreviated grip. Add to this a fairly light trigger with a short pull and trouble rears its head.

If you keep it with a round in the chamber (as you should) it is easy to see how a quick grab under stress can result in a negligent discharge, especially if you're accessing the gun from a glove box, or from a nightstand while just woken from sleep.

The safety works as it should, ala 1911, and will not slow you down when you want to shoot. Plus if someone who shouldn't picks it up, the first thing they do is pull the trigger. This helps prevent tragedies.

Posted by: eastofsuez at December 01, 2019 08:24 PM (U2zca)

219 Talking about Emmie's situation reminds me of a topic from last week: longer range sessions or shorter, more frequent ones. I think the situation calls for more frequent sessions. Also, practice at home, unloaded of course, bringing the piece into use.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 08:25 PM (bmdz3)

220 Best song with guns in the lyrics? Kohd has my vote

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:25 PM (PUmDY)

221 I don't want to be a hero. I want to stop anyone who fires on my place of worship. I will NOT go
Down without a fight.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (PkVlr)
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Amen and good for you!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:25 PM (WEBkv)

222 If you vote D ever again, you may be able to fix that like my fellow VA residents have done!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:19 PM (BiNEL)

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Michigan has had two liberal Democrat governors since shall-issue took effect. The first spoke of repealing the new law but once the polling came in, she announced that it was a done deal and stopped talking about it.

So far only people in safe-seat Dem districts bring it up. Interestingly, our current governor used to represent a very liberal district but she's done nothing on the issue. It's pretty much a third rail.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (cfSRQ)

223 ..I will NOT go Down without a fight.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (PkVlr)


Who usually wins that one, you or Insom?


*ducks, runs serpentine!*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (QzJWU)

224 It's on my to-do list! I just need to find the time to write it.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

Which reminds me. You are doing a great job here. I, for one, appreciate it.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 01, 2019 08:12 PM (aS1PU)


Seconded

I just try to read every post.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (1g7ch)

225 American citizen killed in Red Flag raid:

https://twitter.com/MikeWJZ/status/1059418477965049856

Posted by: Monty James at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (aNZO8)

226 Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (QzJWU)

Sounds like a win-win.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 08:27 PM (1CjJc)

227 220 Best song with guns in the lyrics? Kohd has my vote Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:25 PM (PUmDY)

"Transfusion Blues," Johnny Cash.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:27 PM (XzT/D)

228 The safety works as it should, ala 1911, and will not slow you down when you want to shoot. Plus if someone who shouldn't picks it up, the first thing they do is pull the trigger. This helps prevent tragedies.

Posted by: eastofsuez at December 01, 2019 08:24 PM (U2zca)


These were some of my thoughts. My only concern is that I was unable to handle a P365 with a safety to see how difficult it was to disengage with my rather short thumb.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:27 PM (87gB3)

229 @zod,

Concur. His focus was on how we recovered control of our heart beat and breathing. When to time the squeeze and trigger pull so that the breath and heart beat synched up. Really hard to learn, but he damned near beat it into most of us.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (VcFUs)

230 It's pretty much a third rail.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (cfSRQ)

Count yourselves lucky, and never vote D!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (BiNEL)

231
I hope you ate too much, drank too much, made liberals cry, and otherwise enjoyed yourselves.

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I did everything but the last thing. And, happily. Mannix and myself and the baby-momma went to the parents' in Tennessee. I just got home.

The barking-mad Leftist members of the family deeply dislike us, and could barely be dragged to Thanksgiving when we were in the neighborhood, and now that they're 1400mi away - not a chance.

Awesome!

And now they're close to one of the only other (relatively) sane family units, who did come out.

It was great.

As for Thanksgiving gun stuff - here's a funny story. We drove, and I had to roll out of the rack at the crack of dawn and go.

After we were in KS, I remembered that I hadn't packed my .45 in my briefcase (as I do every day) because I had been so groggy.

FAIL! I was pissed.

Then, my brother dropped the bomb... the hotel was in St. Louis!

Unarmed in St. Louis. NIGHTMARE.

Then, when we got there, I realized that I'd been so groggy that I'd just absentmindedly packed it in the front section of my suitcase instead.

RELIEF + Mild Embarrassment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (b8Gt1)

232 Fuck me ridgid. Breaking news ,NZ filth have just admitted that the online web page for NZ gun buy back (Govt theft) has been breached and all details ie 70000 people licence numbers, date of birth, firearms and parts surrendered, FUCKING PHONE NUMBERS AND ADDRESS, were available for screen shot and download. This 3rd world banana republic police force and excuse of a govt are just beyond pathetic.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)

233 Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (1g7ch)
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Thanks Burnt Toast! Don't forget the archive if you miss one!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (MVjcR)

234 2 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:01 PM (ZCEU2)
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Pocket knife.

or, whatever object I can swing that's near to hand.

Or, maybe one of my other guns.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:29 PM (WEBkv)

235 232 Fuck me ridgid. Breaking news ,NZ filth have just admitted that the online web page for NZ gun buy back (Govt theft) has been breached and all details ie 70000 people licence numbers, date of birth, firearms and parts surrendered, FUCKING PHONE NUMBERS AND ADDRESS, were available for screen shot and download. This 3rd world banana republic police force and excuse of a govt are just beyond pathetic.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)
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Damn, bro.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

236 >>so that the breath and heart beat synched up. Really hard to learn, but he damned near beat it into most of us. Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (VcFUs)

So key. Seems like an eternity, but count, breathe, send it.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:30 PM (XzT/D)

237 Fuck me ridgid. Breaking news ,NZ filth have just admitted that the online web page for NZ gun buy back (Govt theft) has been breached and all details ie 70000 people licence numbers, date of birth, firearms and parts surrendered, FUCKING PHONE NUMBERS AND ADDRESS, were available for screen shot and download. This 3rd world banana republic police force and excuse of a govt are just beyond pathetic.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)


Oopsie. Of course that happened, it was part of the plan from the beginning.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (aS1PU)

238 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (cfSRQ)

Unfortunately dove and wolf seasons had no such third rails.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (+mbOC)

239 assemble parts.
let someone else test fire it.
end of article.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (PkW5Q)
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Ha! I like it!
Posted by: Weasel

Could you discuss the go/no go check for setting the AR barrel into the upper receiver when you do? Watched a couple of videos, but not certain I understand what to look for and why.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (VcFUs)

240 Someone point back to Jackstraw's dog tomorrow.

Posted by: DaveA at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (FhXTo)

241 >>234 2 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2019 07:01 PM (ZCEU2)

Hostage. Penis. Beer.

Or something.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (XzT/D)

242 NZFrank, that's awful, but par for the course for a meddlesome government.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (87gB3)

243 BifB,
Have you ever watched a biathlon? Those guys are amazeballs. The control they must have is incredible. I was on the course at the Vancouver Winter Olympics and it blew me away.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:32 PM (PkVlr)

244 232 Fuck me ridgid. Breaking news ,NZ filth have just admitted that the online web page for NZ gun buy back (Govt theft) has been breached and all details ie 70000 people licence numbers, date of birth, firearms and parts surrendered, FUCKING PHONE NUMBERS AND ADDRESS, were available for screen shot and download. This 3rd world banana republic police force and excuse of a govt are just beyond pathetic.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)

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I say that was done purposefully. We are ruled by gangsters in all countries of the West.

Posted by: Monty James at December 01, 2019 08:32 PM (aNZO8)

245 Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:30 PM (MVjcR)


I'm convinced there is a reason that all government databases are on the internet, although they are "theoretically" secured!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:33 PM (BiNEL)

246 assemble parts.
let someone else test fire it.
end of article.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:14 PM (PkW5Q)
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Ha! I like it!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (MVjcR)


I assure you, only the most average components at clearance prices.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2019 08:33 PM (1g7ch)

247 I guess if there's no gun handy, we could be like the 80-yr-old bodybuilder and throw a table.

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:33 PM (87gB3)

248 Unfortunately dove and wolf seasons had no such third rails.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (+mbOC)

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Meh, when you get into hunting seasons and whether the Natural Resources Commission should do X or Y, you lose 90 percent of the public's attention.

Telling 300,000+ people that their CPL permits are no longer valid? That gets everyone's attention.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:33 PM (cfSRQ)

249
Could you discuss the go/no go check for setting the AR barrel into the upper receiver when you do? Watched a couple of videos, but not certain I understand what to look for and why.
Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:31 PM (VcFUs)
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OK, but in the meantime, Brownells has an outstanding collection of videos on the subject. I'd encourage you to check those out.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:33 PM (MVjcR)

250 How about when Joe Bidet said we have to get phonographs for the kids in the hood because they need to hear more words? But no Malarkey words please.

Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 08:34 PM (mn0Jm)

251 Watching the Detectives is amazing as well.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:34 PM (PUmDY)

252 Have you ever watched a biathlon? Those guys are amazeballs. The control they must have is incredible. I was on the course at the Vancouver Winter Olympics and it blew me away.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:32 PM (PkVlr)


I love watching biathlon. I am amazed at their control on the range.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 01, 2019 08:34 PM (aS1PU)

253 225 American citizen killed in Red Flag raid:

https://twitter.com/MikeWJZ/status/1059418477965049856
Posted by: Monty James at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (aNZO
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I read that thread with some interest. A couple of people tried to claim the cops had good reason, blah blah blah, without ever once recognizing none of this would have happened had the cops not shown up at 5:30 am and tried to take the guys guns.

Oh, and the guy was dangerous yet other people were in the house?

Not even close to passing the smell test.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM (WEBkv)

254
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)

Errors of judgement were made

Administrative measures have been taken

This episode is considered closed

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM (7rVsF)

255 Didja see Ron Perlman discussing Americans and firearms? Virtually everything he says is ridiculously wrong.

https://bit.ly/2DzbEfF

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM (+y/Ru)

256 *ducks, runs serpentine!*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM


You can run, but you'll only die tired.

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM (DMUuz)

257 Ron Perlman, the actor?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:37 PM (PUmDY)

258 232 Fuck me ridgid. Breaking news ,NZ filth have just admitted that the online web page for NZ gun buy back (Govt theft) has been breached and all details ie 70000 people licence numbers, date of birth, firearms and parts surrendered, FUCKING PHONE NUMBERS AND ADDRESS, were available for screen shot and download. This 3rd world banana republic police force and excuse of a govt are just beyond pathetic.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (bgJ0E)

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Well, at least they're claiming criminal action.

Here, newspapers were publishing data on gun owners at will.

But, yeah, I feel for you because that kind of thing is rather unnerving.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:37 PM (WEBkv)

259 >>https://bit.ly/2DzbEfF

"Human death rate."

Ambassador from the Alpha Centauri system.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:37 PM (XzT/D)

260 Errors of judgement were made



Administrative measures have been taken



This episode is considered closed



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh



So using this at my next IRS audit. You folks will come to see me on visiting day, right?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (LOq4H)

261 I say that was done purposefully. We are ruled by gangsters in all countries of the West.

Posted by: Monty James at December 01, 2019 08:32 PM (aNZO

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Nah, par for the course.

The majority goes all-in on a useless, knee-jerk response to a preventable crime and then slaps together a crap database likely awarded to politically-connected cronies.

And it get breached, because of course.

The real question is whether NZ is a one-party state or the opposition can make some hay out of this.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (cfSRQ)

262 How about when Joe Bidet said we have to get phonographs for the kids in the hood because they need to hear more words? But no Malarkey words please.
Posted by: kallisto at December 01, 2019 08:34 PM (mn0Jm)

If Joe had spent time and cared for his own kids as much as he pretends to care for all the poor, downtrodden black children maybe they would have turned out better.

There is something wrong with Joe's medulla oblongata.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (Z+IKu)

263 104 Another great thread, weasel!

Email sent, regarding new VA gun laws.

The guys in VA look to be going for it and if they get away with it, look for other state to follow.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 07:49 PM (WEBkv)

WA state also went all blue in the last election, the Repubs finally lost control of the Senate.

They already have a stack of gun stealing laws that are starting to leak in the Communist, American Constitution hating Seattle Times already. The Legislature doesn't even meet until next year.

The anti-Constitutional Seattle Times is the leaking vessel in this case, part of this state's Communist leadership structure, that now includes all of Olympia, plus the crooked State Supreme Court, and the Leftie news rag called the Times.

The Times leaks are the exact same strategy they used when they first passed I1639 last year, stealing citizen 2A rights. The SC of course ignored written law, and "interpreted" the law to the gun grabbers favor.

I have tried to continue typing more, but everything I write could be used against me. So I am done deleting and just post the essence of why CW 2 is closer than we think. Only the US Supreme Court can fix this totalitarian attack on citizen rights.

Or clean up the voter rolls and get non-citizens off of them. But that is just wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

I am not moving, asshole anti-Americans and your fellow illegals in the shadows. And I'm not sorry, either. Just remember when it is way, way past too late, and you are in tears about everything around you, that you had the chance to stop it before it started, and you did nothing. Nothing.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (sy5kK)

264 Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2019 08:26 PM (1g7ch)
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Thanks Burnt Toast! Don't forget the archive if you miss one!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:28 PM (MVjcR)


Optimum twist article was one I tried to dig before getting the 223 Wylde upper. Found the same pic you linked on another webpage. It's 1:9 so kind of middle ground.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (1g7ch)

265
No gun? Then a knife in your dominant hand and a bic lighter in the other for a light fistpack. No knife? Two bic lighters. No lighters? You're a fag.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (b8Gt1)

266 This episode is considered closed
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM (7rVsF)

The remedial training will ensure this never happens again!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar EDKH at December 01, 2019 08:39 PM (BiNEL)

267 Ron Perlman, the actor?


Ron Perlman, the guy that looks like a Maine Coon cat?

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 01, 2019 08:40 PM (MDnCd)

268 Okay, I'm going to get some writing done.

Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:40 PM (cfSRQ)

269 He is the link to the Magnons.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:41 PM (PUmDY)

270 No weapon handy?

Grabbing Mrs. TP and pushing her to the front towards the threat. Lovely gal until scared/pissed. But,

Redhead.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:41 PM (Y4EXg)

271 Have you ever watched a biathlon? Those guys are amazeballs. The control they must have is incredible. I was on the course at the Vancouver Winter Olympics and it blew me away.
Posted by: Nurse ratched

Hi Nurse! Yes - the local Tang Soo Do master that we are working with used to do that back in Poland before she immigrated here. I got her talking about it and she really waxed prolific about breathing and heart rate. She is one of the scariest ladies I've ever met and she looks like what I expect everyone's generic aunt Karen would look like.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 08:41 PM (VcFUs)

272 Pretty sure got that wrong.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 08:42 PM (PUmDY)

273 I am not moving, asshole anti-Americans and your fellow illegals in the shadows. And I'm not sorry, either. Just remember when it is way, way past too late, and you are in tears about everything around you, that you had the chance to stop it before it started, and you did nothing. Nothing.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 08:38 PM (sy5kK)

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And these people have no problem making criminals of people who have committed no crimes. Well, other than the heinous crime of not bending the knee to the all-powerful state.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:42 PM (WEBkv)

274 Pretty sure got that wrong.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

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It's the invisible font that messed you up.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:42 PM (Y4EXg)

275 Zod CPAP.

Remain in light.

Posted by: Zod at December 01, 2019 08:42 PM (XzT/D)

276 Weasel, gracias for gunz, as always!


No purchases - well, unless you count components. Bought 1K 250g plated bullets to reload 45LC for my Model 1866 at some point. Have the dies [actually got 'em cheap, barely used, along the route to pick up the 1866 up in Orange County - timing is rarely that perfect]. Have everything else already, as primers and powder are common to other calibers. Just have to empty the LAZ Ammo rounds I have to complete my brass stash.


Had a good brief indoor range session with the CZ-83. Is Mark Andrew Edwards here? Think he got one, want to know how he likes it. Had the range guy handle mine, he'd never held one, he agreed it is an incredibly comfortable and naturally pointing little piece.


BTW, the indoor range is the same at which the Giants baseball player [Huff?] went shooting with his kids and then posted a photo and commentary on his twatters, garnering gun nut and gun-grabbing fascist attention. Could tell by the target he held up.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2019 08:43 PM (QDnY+)

277 Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:41 PM (Y4EXg)

I'll bet you don't even have to push her to the front, do ya? Sounds like she'd be right on it, ready to rumble.

Posted by: April at December 01, 2019 08:44 PM (OX9vb)

278 Regarding the family Remington Model 4:

Thanks Weasel and everyone for all your info, insight, and suggestions! I wish I knew more about the .22 as far as the story of how it came home with my grandpa or great grandpa but I don't.

Generations of kids in my family probably took their first rifle shot with that gun. Next step is restoring the parts and the stock so it goes into its next century in good shape.

Posted by: Rihar at December 01, 2019 08:44 PM (+PABY)

279 Got that right April.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 08:44 PM (Y4EXg)

280 The last recorded use of "malarkey" prior to Biden's recent use was in Band of Brothers (2001).

That should really resonate with the kids.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 01, 2019 08:45 PM (r6GXX)

281
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 08:40 PM (cfSRQ)
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My pleasure, AHL!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:46 PM (MVjcR)

282 Hey that Remington #4 is just like mine. mine was made in 1898 and sold by Sears & Roebuck Co. Original price was $8 if I remember correctly. there were lots of them made so they don't have much dollar value.

Posted by: sailorguns at December 01, 2019 08:47 PM (ZrhCv)

283 Posted by: Rihar at December 01, 2019 08:44 PM (+PABY)
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You're welcome and thanks for sending it in, Rihar.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:49 PM (MVjcR)

284 Errors of judgement were made

Administrative measures have been taken

I take responsibility.

This episode is considered closed
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM


FIFY.

Posted by: zombie Janet Reno at December 01, 2019 08:49 PM (DMUuz)

285 Weasel,
I did purchase 2k rounds of ammo with Mark's help (stuff disappears off my front step).
Does that count?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:50 PM (PkVlr)

286 Ron Perlman, the ass goblin.

Posted by: Santa at December 01, 2019 08:50 PM (Tnijr)

287 223 ..I will NOT go Down without a fight.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:23 PM (PkVlr)


Who usually wins that one, you or Insom?


*ducks, runs serpentine!*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Not sure, but the loser in every case is the woodpecker.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 08:50 PM (sy5kK)

288 Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2019 08:43 PM (QDnY+)
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Absolutely, rhomboid!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:50 PM (MVjcR)

289 285 Weasel,
I did purchase 2k rounds of ammo with Mark's help (stuff disappears off my front step).
Does that count?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:50 PM (PkVlr)
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You better believe it counts, good job!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:52 PM (MVjcR)

290 Hey you guys.

There is no loser.

Let's just leave that there.

Smooches!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:52 PM (PkVlr)

291
Isn't Malarkey the senator from Massachusetts?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 08:53 PM (7rVsF)

292
I've been assured that Chicago's high gun crime rate is due to lax gun laws in Indiana. No explanation why Indiana's gun crime rate isn't even higher.
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 08:21 PM (87gB3)



Things that make you go "hmmmm...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 08:53 PM (sy5kK)

293 Well, time to wander.

Thanks for another great thread!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 01, 2019 08:54 PM (WEBkv)

294
Errors of judgement were made

Administrative measures have been taken

This episode is considered closed
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 08:35 PM (7rVsF)

Yes that will be tomorrows rag headlines. If it makes the headlines. The fuckers should swing.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at December 01, 2019 08:54 PM (bgJ0E)

295 yours looks like it has a screw take down so that makes it probably made between 1926 and 1933 when they stopped making them.

Posted by: sailorguns at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (ZrhCv)

296 As always, thanks for the thread, Weasel !


And Emmie, hope your new gun serves you well !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (JwHjN)

297 Thanks blake, goodnight!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (MVjcR)

298 ..Thanks Weasel and everyone for all your info, insight, and suggestions! I wish I knew more about the .22 as far as the story of how it came home with my grandpa or great grandpa but I don't.

Generations of kids in my family probably took their first rifle shot with that gun. Next step is restoring the parts and the stock so it goes into its next century in good shape.

Posted by: Rihar at December 01, 2019 08:44 PM (+PABY)



Wanna confuse Christmas with Halloween?

Get a quote for a Turnbull restoration. It'll make you scream in fright.

But while you're there on the website, soak in the beauty and magnificence of the work his shop turns out.

turnbullrestoration.com

If that Model Four is truly the heirloom it seems to be though, I'd actually consider such a restoration.

You'd have to have a family trust, and a Line of Succession for subsequent inheritance.

The family fights over that gem would be for the ages!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (QzJWU)

299
"Isn't Malarkey the senator from Massachusetts?"

No, Jamaica.

Posted by: Santa at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (Tnijr)

300 I use a LOT of old words like malarkey. And I mean I use lot of them. I practically speak nineteenth century American English in common practice. This is a feature of my raising.

I am 31 years younger than Biden.

I would never, ever use them in a political campaign speech. Largely because this is a 21st century campaign, and two hundred year old words won't resonate with anyone.

The idea of printing a word like "malarkey" on the side of a freaking bus would be immediately shot down by me, along with the flack who who presented the concept. Maybe literally shot down, depending on how much I'd been drinking.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (b8Gt1)

301 Blanco Basura @ 267- Maine Coon Cat! You made me spray the cat on my lap with water. That right there was funny.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (UUkQp)

302 I like the idea for the laser sight device, but would not use one on my personal iphone.
A burner, maybe.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (w7KSn)

303 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (JwHjN)
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You're welcome, sock rat!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:56 PM (MVjcR)

304 295 yours looks like it has a screw take down so that makes it probably made between 1926 and 1933 when they stopped making them.
Posted by: sailorguns at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (ZrhCv)
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I was guessing early 1930s based on the s/n. Production went to 355k I think.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:57 PM (MVjcR)

305 That model 4 a rolling block?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 08:18 PM (1CjJc)
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|yes

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 08:59 PM (PkW5Q)

306 No firearm what's the first thing you grab?
Posted by: Skip
Upstairs my practice katana (oak). Downstairs one or both tonfas.

Posted by: Sock Monkey... carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero at December 01, 2019 08:59 PM (wmoAX)

307 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (b8Gt1)
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I was thinking he had to come up with that himself. Nobody else would be that stupid.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:59 PM (MVjcR)

308 These Red Flag law raids remind me of one thing: Waco. And we know how well that ended with burnt bodies of children and bullet riddled innocent adults.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 08:59 PM (bmdz3)

309 Correction: I'm 41 years younger than the old dotard.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2019 09:00 PM (b8Gt1)

310 Biden is flailing. He asked his staffers to come up with similar PDT winning messages

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:01 PM (PUmDY)

311 can anyone recommend an affordable trap shooting gun? My 15 year old son has peaked in his abilities on his Mossberg Maverick 12g. We shoot singles trap, doubles and 5-stand so a single shot won't do. Looking for a semi-auto or an over-under.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:02 PM (h1jJh)

312 Pixy and I enjoy an uneasy relationship, all because of that one time years ago when I inadvertantly posted to a dead thread.

One little slip, and it goes in your permanent record. Be forewarned.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Dead threads tell no tales.

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2019 09:03 PM (arJlL)

313 310 Biden is flailing. He asked his staffers to come up with similar PDT winning messages

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:01 PM (PUmDY)

One does not simply fake loving America.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:03 PM (1CjJc)

314
Other Biden slogans

Groovy
I love my wife, but oh you kid!
23 skidoo!
Kilroy wuz here
Over the hill in October

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (7rVsF)

315
Have you ever watched a biathlon?

Is it anything like a transathlon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (aKsyK)

316 Favorite thread of the week! Thanks Weasel!!

Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (ouR/N)

317 Too early for Christmas, but the definitive 'A Christmas Carol' coming on AMC. Alistair Sim. There will be no discussion regarding this.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2019 09:05 PM (arJlL)

318 O, I came from Pennsylvania
with an onion on my belt
For a bus campaign where I explained
exactly how I felt

No Malarky!

Yes that's the phrase for me
Though these eyes of mine
are nearly blind
O that much I can see

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 01, 2019 09:05 PM (dOV9E)

319
Other Biden slogans

Groovy
I love my wife, but oh you kid!
23 skidoo!
Kilroy wuz here
Over the hill in October
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (7rVsF)
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Ha! Can you imagine how painful it must be to work on that campaign?

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)

320 Smelling a haircut, no bits

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:05 PM (PUmDY)

321 We might be deplorable, but Biden is depraved!



Posted by: squeakywheel at December 01, 2019 09:05 PM (C+rDW)

322 289 285 Weasel,
I did purchase 2k rounds of ammo with Mark's help (stuff disappears off my front step).
Does that count?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 01, 2019 08:50 PM (PkVlr)
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You better believe it counts, good job!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 08:52 PM (MVjcR)


nurse, after reading one of those Seattle Times articles about their gun-grabbing plans, they addressed ammo and those that buy it.

Both the article and many comments below showed how shocked someone who is not a law enforcement officer or a professional bodyguard could actually buy ONE THOUSAND BULLETS!!!!! in a single purchase. That just proves the buyer is a crackpot. And many said that is enough proof to smear Red Flag charges on them to steal their guns without Due Process.

They are stunned that a regular person could be so irresponsible buying that many rounds. Shocked, yes they are. Shocked and dismayed about those terrible ammo-buying people.

Myself, that is a short order, needed to fill a spot on the shelf. If one is serious, they should have 1k to 5k rounds for each caliber they own. And then over 5k of your primary training arm. And .22LR? At least 10,000 rounds. Cheap target practice and very practical. IMO, of course.

They would cringe and melt if they knew how many people on the street, standing next to them, are carrying every single day in the big blue city of Seattle.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (sy5kK)

323 Posted by: Jesse in DC at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (ouR/N)
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Thanks Jesse! It's my pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (MVjcR)

324 Which reminds me. You are doing a great job here. I, for one, appreciate it.
Posted by: DR.WTF

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (arJlL)

325 315
Have you ever watched a biathlon?

Is it anything like a transathlon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (aKsyK)

Kind of, but they go back and forth.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (1CjJc)

326 Biden is flailing. He asked his staffers to come up with similar PDT winning messages

***
How about "Make America Great Again...Again"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:07 PM (h1jJh)

327 Biff B -

EDC is typically an S&W 637, sometimes in summer a SIG P290

Summer, usually OWB under a t-shirt, winter usually a shoulder holster, always carry at least one reload, often 2 or 3.

An NAA Mini .22LR revolver is usually in a pants pocket even if I'm not carrying anything larger, also a Gerber EAB Lite and a Fenix E01 flashlight.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 09:07 PM (JwHjN)

328
Back in those days, a Negro couldn't just go to the pool. But times were changing, and equality was in the air.

One morning, I wanted to bend the arc of history toward progress in Wilmington. I decided enough was enough, to take a stand.

Well, actually, it was a dive. A dive for justice.

The board was only three meters high, but it looked like a mile from where I was standing.

Little did I know, I would not feel those cool, cleansing waters of redemption. Not on that day.

The voice of the cruel white Aquatic Center overseer, Joe "Cracker Jack" Biden, snapped like a whip: "Hey Esther, off the board or I'll come up and drag you off!"

I knew he meant business. Hanging my head in shame, I retreated to the pool parking lot. But nothing was enough for Cracker Jack. He pursued me outside, his wrathful fist wrapped in a chain of oppression.

"I'm sorry I called you Esther..." he said menacingly, "it's an insult to white womanhood! Now get your ass outta here before I show you what happens to uppity negros in Delaware."

It was the most humiliating day of my young life.

Posted by: Corn Pop at December 01, 2019 09:07 PM (b8Gt1)

329 Posted by: JT at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (arJlL)
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Thank you JT!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:08 PM (MVjcR)

330 Myself, that is a short order, needed to fill a spot on the shelf. If one is serious, they should have 1k to 5k rounds for each caliber they own. And then over 5k of your primary training arm. And .22LR? At least 10,000 rounds. Cheap target practice and very practical. IMO, of course.

They would cringe and melt if they knew how many people on the street, standing next to them, are carrying every single day in the big blue city of Seattle.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (sy5kK)

Jeebus. That would be a good start.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:09 PM (1CjJc)

331 Biden has been a farcical longshot from the outset. None of the Dems have much potential, and that's in an absolute sense. In the actual circumstances they face, they're all without almost any chance. The built-in advantages of the Dems, including the degradation of half or more of the electorate, aren't adequate to make up for the environment, and the skills/particular appeal of the incumbent.


But more than likely that just buys a few more years of holding actions, as there's little sign the political class, institutions, and enablers are rethinking their near-complete detachment from popular will - and the part of the electorate making all the degradation possible isn't changing.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2019 09:09 PM (QDnY+)

332 What kind of monster is Dr. Jill Biden ?

If you love someone, you don't let them do this to themselves

The best scenario for Joe is just to drop out with his tail between his legs

Worse case is some kind of "12 angry men" breakdown on the podium.

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2019 09:09 PM (rpxSz)

333 Looking for a semi-auto or an over-under.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:02 PM (h1jJh)

I have a Browning over/under that shoots wonderfully. The current production BT-99 is probably the equivalent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2019 09:10 PM (wYseH)

334 And don't forget several (i.e., at least eight) normal capacity mags. And lenders.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:11 PM (1CjJc)

335 Other Biden slogans



Groovy

I love my wife, but oh you kid!

23 skidoo!

Kilroy wuz here

Over the hill in October

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (7rVsF)


"This is a big fucking deal."

Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2019 09:11 PM (l3+k2)

336
Worse case is some kind of "12 angry men" Budd Dwyer breakdown on the podium.

Fix-ed

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 09:11 PM (7rVsF)

337 333 Looking for a semi-auto or an over-under.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:02 PM (h1jJh)

I have a Browning over/under that shoots wonderfully. The current production BT-99 is probably the equivalent.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2019 09:10 PM (wYseH)
-----
Thanks CBD. Anyone else's have a recommendation?

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:12 PM (MVjcR)

338 LeftcoastDawg @ 322- That right there you just said. Never mind you are buying a legal product that you have a GOD-Given right to buy, It is a simple fact ain't nobody's business what or how much you buy.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2019 09:12 PM (UUkQp)

339 "I'm sorry I called you Esther..." he said menacingly, "it's an insult to white womanhood! Now get your ass outta here before I show you what happens to uppity negros in Delaware."

It was the most humiliating day of my young life.
Posted by: Corn Pop at December 01, 2019 09:07 PM (b8Gt1)

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Thank you. A worthy reminder to us all that America was founded in 1619 on slavery and oppression. This is why we need Democratic leadership to move forward.

Posted by: The New York Times at December 01, 2019 09:12 PM (XVuno)

340 We have *two* undercover Sheriff's deputies, at each service. I generally have a short conversation with them each Sunday.

You don't talk OPSEC in public forums.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 09:13 PM (lD3vL)

341 And Emmie, hope your new gun serves you well !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (JwHjN)


Thanks! I hope I never need it!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (87gB3)

342 325 315
Have you ever watched a biathlon?

Is it anything like a transathlon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (aKsyK)

Kind of, but they go back and forth.
Posted by: flounder

All the way to #325 before we got to otters.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (VcFUs)

343 Thanks, Mr. Weasel.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (1CjJc)

344 326 Biden is flailing. He asked his staffers to come up with similar PDT winning messages

***
How about "Make America Great Again...Again"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:07 PM (h1jJh)

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"I got yer Joe Biden right here,"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (XVuno)

345 308 These Red Flag law raids remind me of one thing: Waco. And we know how well that ended with burnt bodies of children and bullet riddled innocent adults.
Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 08:59 PM (bmdz3)

And 4 dead FIBs.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (+mbOC)

346 Thank you. A worthy reminder to us all that America
was founded in 1619 on slavery and oppression. This is why we need
Democratic leadership to move forward.

Posted by: The New York Times at December 01, 2019 09:12 PM (XVuno)

Now that President Trump has made slavery legal again, it is incumbent upon all right thinking Amerikkans to fight his policies....

Posted by: The Washington Post Editorial Board. at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (wYseH)

347 I was always curious why bolt action was preferred
over lever action in the military. I can see the advantage of a
resting bolt action over the lever but other advantages to the lever.
Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 07:32 PM (2DOZq)


Shoot your lever gun while lying prone in the dirt. Then do the quick reload and shoot the entire magazine again. Stay low so you don't get nicked in the butt, elbow or shoulder by the return fire.

there were lever actions used up through WW1, but these were mostly for cavalry units and rear troops. The Spanish used a Winchester 92 knock-off in 44-40, and the Russians had a Winchester 95 in 7.62 x 54


Forgotten weapons, Russian Contract Winchester 1895
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ttjtcbl

Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2019 09:15 PM (1glZx)

348 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (1CjJc)
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You're welcome flounder. Thanks for being here!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:15 PM (MVjcR)

349 335 Other Biden slogans



Groovy

I love my wife, but oh you kid!

23 skidoo!

Kilroy wuz here

Over the hill in October

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (7rVsF)


"This is a big fucking deal."

"Go to Joe 30330 and help me"

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 01, 2019 09:15 PM (377Zs)

350 23 skidoo!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2019 09:04 PM (7rVsF)

Joe's "23 skidoo" moment has passed

there is no getting out while the getting's good remaining for Joe

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2019 09:15 PM (rpxSz)

351 They want to keep you in chains

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:16 PM (PUmDY)

352 Happiness is having to build-in a lot of extra support and reinforcement into the Pier & Beam structure beneath the "Gun Room" floor.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 09:16 PM (QzJWU)

353 Have long wanted to do biathlon, but, well, don't live in snow country [though there's snow on the mountains not far away]. Really have to live in a place where x-c is doable several months of the year.


Once was skiing at a place near Winter Park, CO, pretty empty, but there was a guy out practicing for biathlon. Carrying the rifle, empty, no shooting, but he'd set up at the shooting areas, and do "penalty laps" as one does on some courses for misses.


Talked to him a bit, very envious. There was a recreational circuit for biathlon that he competed in.


Talked to some folks who want to create an "historic" biathlon - one where everything resembles action in the Winter War. Large caliber bolt action rifles, steel silhouette targets at realistic ranges, firing from cover, snowshoes as well as skis, etc. Awesome concept.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2019 09:17 PM (QDnY+)

354 "Please clap"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:17 PM (XVuno)

355 I believe Joe mean to call the guy Aunt (pronounced Ont) Esther.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2019 09:18 PM (UUkQp)

356 352 Happiness is having to build-in a lot of extra support and reinforcement into the Pier & Beam structure beneath the "Gun Room" floor.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 09:16 PM (QzJWU)
----------
Yes sir!
By the way, we've got an interesting construction project to feature next week.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:18 PM (MVjcR)

357 "Simple J. Malarkey" was a character in the Pogo comic strip, based on Joe McCarthy. Probably means nothing.

Posted by: Santa at December 01, 2019 09:18 PM (Tnijr)

358 You fish eyed fool

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:19 PM (PUmDY)

359 333
Thanks CBD
Is that model an actual trap gun or a field gun? Does it have an adjustable stock?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:19 PM (h1jJh)

360 Biden is about one stutter from a total breakdown

it's not really a laughing matter

but I will anywho

hehe

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2019 09:19 PM (rpxSz)

361 there is no getting out while the getting's good remaining for Joe

Posted by: REDACTED



Yep, Old Joe's got a serious case of "target fixation", he'll never pull up in time.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 01, 2019 09:20 PM (LOq4H)

362 ..Yes sir!
By the way, we've got an interesting construction project to feature next week.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:18 PM (MVjcR)




You've completed the Winter Palace at Weasel Acres?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 09:21 PM (QzJWU)

363 If there is one thing that the people who work for Joe seem to agree on, it's that you can't tell him a damn thing.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2019 09:21 PM (dOV9E)

364 353 Have long wanted to do biathlon, but, well, don't live in snow country [though there's snow on the mountains not far away]. Really have to live in a place where x-c is doable several months of the year.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2019 09:17 PM (QDnY+)

I might try to take up XC this winter. Can do, right out the front door. It would be fun to set up some pellet targets (no firearm shooting here) to practice with.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:21 PM (1CjJc)

365 I can't imagine what Joes controlled exit strategy is going to look like.

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:22 PM (MVjcR)

366 "341 And Emmie, hope your new gun serves you well !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 08:55 PM (JwHjN)

Thanks! I hope I never need it!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 09:14 PM (87gB3) "


As we all do !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 01, 2019 09:22 PM (JwHjN)

367
You've completed the Winter Palace at Weasel Acres?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 09:21 PM (QzJWU)
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You'll have to tune in next week!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:23 PM (MVjcR)

368 Joe Biden didn't get where he is today by being a total idiot.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:23 PM (XVuno)

369 365 I can't imagine what Joes controlled exit strategy is going to look like.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:22 PM (MVjcR)

I can't either

Posted by: JOEY 8 TRACK at December 01, 2019 09:23 PM (rpxSz)

370 At least Hunter only wants adults jumping on his lap.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2019 09:23 PM (dOV9E)

371 I should have said, "by JUST being a total idiot."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:24 PM (XVuno)

372 371 I should have said, "by JUST being a total idiot."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:24 PM (XVuno)
--------
Retard, too?

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (MVjcR)

373 At least Hunter only wants adults jumping on his lap.

I'm getting the impression that he's not too particular, he just doesn't want to go to jail over it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (xkSJa)

374 The best thing that can happen for Joe Biden is to get caught up in a scandal

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (h1jJh)

375 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:06 PM (sy5kK)

Jeebus. That would be a good start.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:09 PM (1CjJc)


yeah, well, money is tight right now so I'm on a budget.

and there is some glass I want for a long gun, too. good glass isn't cheap.

so I will just have to survive, somehow.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (sy5kK)

376 368 Joe Biden didn't get where he is today by being a total idiot.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:23 PM (XVuno)

you misspelled "without"

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (rpxSz)

377 I could see Bobby Cannavalle playing Beau Biden

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (PUmDY)

378 At least Hunter only wants adults jumping on his lap.
Posted by: Splunge

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That we know of.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2019 09:26 PM (Y4EXg)

379 Biting fingers is malarkey. Let down, once again by the candidate!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 01, 2019 09:26 PM (LxTcq)

380 372 371 I should have said, "by JUST being a total idiot."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:24 PM (XVuno)
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Retard, too?
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (MVjcR)

--------

And corruption. Don't forget that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:27 PM (XVuno)

381 Hunter

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 01, 2019 09:27 PM (PUmDY)

382 Biden 2020
"Now dats some high quality H2O"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:27 PM (h1jJh)

383 yeah, well, money is tight right now so I'm on a budget.

and there is some glass I want for a long gun, too. good glass isn't cheap.

so I will just have to survive, somehow.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:25 PM (sy5kK)

lol

Just got a deal on a Mark 4 at MidwayUSA, and that was budgeted.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:28 PM (1CjJc)

384 Well evening all.

I did it.
Instead of more ammo I picked up a S&W .380.
Perfect fit and great feel to it.
Now to run a couple hundred rounds thru it.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2019 09:28 PM (axyOa)

385
And... here's another thing: my name is Peter Samuels.

Not "Corn Pop," dammit!

Only reason anybody called me "Corn Pop" in the first place was because of that illiterate motherfucker.

"Corn Pop," my ass.

Posted by: Corn Pop at December 01, 2019 09:28 PM (b8Gt1)

386 Biden 2020: "Let No Window Go Unlicked"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2019 09:28 PM (XVuno)

387
I did it.
Instead of more ammo I picked up a S&W .380.
Perfect fit and great feel to it.
Now to run a couple hundred rounds thru it.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2019 09:28 PM (axyOa)
------
Congratulations!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:29 PM (MVjcR)

388 340 We have *two* undercover Sheriff's deputies, at each service. I generally have a short conversation with them each Sunday.

You don't talk OPSEC in public forums.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 01, 2019 09:13 PM (lD3vL)

You mean those 80-something little ladies with the white hair?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:29 PM (sy5kK)

389 "getting the impression that he's not too particular, he just doesn't want to go to jail over it."

if he is doing crack, he is banging adults. if it was molly I would worry about the rave kiddies.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at December 01, 2019 09:30 PM (g4zDq)

390
This is three weeks old and may have been posted here already, but here's another traffic blocker getting their just desserts -

https://youtu.be/Sar-lOf4Fpc

LOLGF!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 01, 2019 09:30 PM (pNxlR)

391 Congratulations!
Posted by: Weasel at December


Thanxs.
It is going to be fun. Feels as natural as my Israeli Arms Baby Eagle.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2019 09:30 PM (axyOa)

392 Posted by: Diogenes

Nice. Congratulations.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 01, 2019 09:30 PM (1CjJc)

393 Looking for a semi-auto or an over-under.



Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:02 PM (h1jJh)

---we have a variety of over/unders and auto loaders too, to go with the pump actions...

what are you planning on using it for?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 09:31 PM (PkW5Q)

394 ONT

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2019 09:31 PM (t+qrx)

395 352 Happiness is having to build-in a lot of extra support and reinforcement into the Pier & Beam structure beneath the "Gun Room" floor.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2019 09:16 PM (QzJWU)


and then savoring your work while enjoying a *fine* bourbon.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 01, 2019 09:32 PM (sy5kK)

396 https://youtu.be/Sar-lOf4Fpc

LOLGF!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 01, 2019 09:30 PM (pNxlR)
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I love it!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:33 PM (MVjcR)

397 I'm ok with no safety on my P365. I use to have Glocks so I'm use to the no safety thing. I belly carry ITW to work daily because it's required if you work for the State of Texas... okay, maybe not required but it is allowed by law. I don't trust the armed security in the state buildings.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 01, 2019 09:33 PM (UUBmN)

398 Early nood

Posted by: Jed Clampett at December 01, 2019 09:34 PM (wmoAX)

399 OK all - ONT is up. Thanks for stopping by and see you next Sunday!! Have a great week!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)

400 No safety.

Go watch CCTV of concealed carry guys stopping robberies. Watch them forget to turn off the safety or forget to rack the slide.

Posted by: Andy Stern at December 01, 2019 09:36 PM (Cjcse)

401 Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)

----

See ya next week.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2019 09:37 PM (b8Gt1)

402 I've discussed how important it is to be able to feed our firearms and I believe the anti-2As will also attack through ammo availablity. That means taking advantage of sales, bulk buying, and so forth. For me that means reloading components, specifically cast bulleys. They are MUCH cheaper, extremely versatile, and very effective. They are what I use in 90 percent of shooting with modern ammo. Yes, I can cast my own but the commercial stuff is very good and affordable.

Sorry if I sound like a broken record on this but after the reaction Leftcoast Dawg mentioned, I think it's called for.

PS: This is why I scavange brass where possible. Also, don't forget percussion caps for muzzleloaders. They were hard to find during the last shortage. Same for primers.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 09:40 PM (bmdz3)

403 ---we have a variety of over/unders and auto loaders too, to go with the pump actions...

what are you planning on using it for?


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2019 09:31 PM (PkW5Q)

*****
Primarily singles trap, but some doubles and 5-stand

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2019 09:45 PM (h1jJh)

404 Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2019 09:30 PM (axyOa)

Congrats! S&Ps are nice!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 09:49 PM (87gB3)

405 Thanks, Weasel! You are a great host!

Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 09:50 PM (87gB3)

406 405 Thanks, Weasel! You are a great host!
Posted by: Emmie at December 01, 2019 09:50 PM (87gB3)
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Thanks Emmie!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2019 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

407 Primarily singles trap, but some doubles and 5-stand
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

----

Don't know what your budget is like, but a Beretta Silver Pigeon new or used should last over 50,000 rounds.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 01, 2019 10:18 PM (Lyt07)

408 I've been carrying my SIG P365 with no safety in a soft holster at 4:30 position with one in the chamber every day for almost a year now with no problems at all.

I just like the knowledge that if I pull the trigger, it goes "bang" with no further action required. That thought is also in the back of my mind at all times when I'm carrying it, for safety reasons.

Either way you go, Emmie, it's a pretty amazing little pistol. Definitely my favorite, edging out my P320.

Posted by: Warmongerel at December 02, 2019 08:15 AM (aEUrG)

409 I have not seen a 365 with safety, so this may be off base, but my general experience with little auto carry guns with safeties is that they are too darned small to activate reliably under stress. I say this as a match shooter from way back when the 1911 .45 was the only way to go. One of the first mods you would make to a 1911 would be an extended safety. Modern single action autopistols have that covered, but the striker fired guns with safeties I have seen leave a lot to be desired. My carry guns are striker fired without safeties. If yours has one, train train train, with the safety in play every time so it becomes second nature. That said, my favorite match guns are still single actions with safeties. I shoot using the safety as a thumbrest for the strong hand.

Posted by: TwoDogs at December 02, 2019 07:51 PM (A+gug)

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An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat