The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

The limits of knowledge is something that conservatives should appreciate, but all too often we substitute our belief for knowledge. Just because we think it is true...should be true, want it to be true...doesn't make it so.

There is something in philosophy (or epistemology) called "Gettier Cases," and they expose the limits of what we know, or what we think we know. Something that makes sense based on our incomplete data may still be false.

We love to trot out "Chesterton's Fence" to slap down the hare-brained schemes of the idiot freedom-stealing progs, but we ignore the limits of knowledge, and sometimes embrace what is called "Justified True Belief," even though it is incomplete. Yeah...Plato was wrong, or at least didn't get to the whole truth.

Anecdotal evidence, correlation without causation, and a host of logical shortcomings will always...ALWAYS...bite us in the ass. Maybe not today, but definitely tomorrow!

This is what separates us from the beasts and the liberals (but I repeat myself): the ability to interpret facts and understand the limits of our knowledge. That's why we embrace Adam Smith's invisible hand, and laugh and laugh at communist five-year plans and government-run...um...anything.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 first

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:00 AM (8D42x)

2 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:01 AM (8D42x)

3 i'll get the corgis

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:01 AM (8D42x)

4 No intent found.

Posted by: BignJames at November 26, 2019 11:01 AM (X/Pw5)

5 summoned.

now to read the content

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:01 AM (8D42x)

6 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:01 AM (q80AH)

7 Well said, CBD

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

8 Bold talk from a pierced simian... but to the point.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 26, 2019 11:02 AM (Gs5TH)

9 Willowed: AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349489/

Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (ZGrMX)

10 so, other than the last paragraph, i think this went over my head.

i think, there for i am

but i'm not sure where i am...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (8D42x)

11 Corollary: I'll take patriarchal, western math for engineering projects over woke wisdom every time.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (Boy/L)

12 So an unexamined life is not worth living?

Posted by: dIb at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (VJOLZ)

13
I appreciate the offer but...this ain't for the faint of heart.

Posted by: Tami at November 26, 2019 10:49 AM

I am usually the one who does the shopping as I am the cook. It's supermarket combat now. Bonus. We have a foot of snow coming apparently so between Thanksgiving and the storm even more people will be clogging the aisles! Yea! My one rule. If my bride texts me to add (yet another) thing to the list and I am in line. You're SOL. Not getting it.
Posted by: Enron at November 26, 2019 11:02 AM

Willowed with a bad chapter 11 sock.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:04 AM (U7cQ/)

14 Willowed: AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

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An economic triumvirate of AOC, Thousand Millimeter Reich and Krugman would be unbeatable!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

15 Corollary: I'll take patriarchal, western math for engineering projects over woke wisdom every time.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (Boy/L)
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Me too.

Posted by: Crushed Florida Bridge Victim at November 26, 2019 11:07 AM (3Z6pZ)

16 Top 20?

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at November 26, 2019 11:07 AM (KPd8G)

17 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (arJlL)

18 I'm here at home, trying to get up the gumption to shovel the two plus feet of snow off my driveway so that I can maybe get to work. We got hit pretty good in the northern Front Rage, but for once the schools were right to close ahead of time, because there's nothing moving out there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (x8Wzq)

19 It must be very comforting to people in a snowstorm to know that they have ample makings for French Toast.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (JwHjN)

20 >>I am usually the one who does the shopping as I am the cook. It's supermarket combat now. Bonus. We have a foot of snow coming apparently so between Thanksgiving and the storm even more people will be clogging the aisles! Yea! My one rule. If my bride texts me to add (yet another) thing to the list and I am in line. You're SOL. Not getting it.

I made the mistake of doing my Thanksgiving shopping last year on the day before. I was in line to checkout of 1 1/2 hours.

That was just the check out line not the total shopping time. Nightmare.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (ZLI7S)

21 Corollary: I'll take patriarchal, western math for engineering projects over woke wisdom every time.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM

The Slide Rule...its not for wimps.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (axyOa)

22 First time I've seen Thousand Millimeter Reich - I'm stealing that one.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (UG4SD)

23 I'll take patriarchal, western math for engineering projects over woke wisdom every time.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (Boy/L)

Bingo...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (wYseH)

24
Willowed: AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

She's a regular Norma Rae, that one

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (pNxlR)

25 It is very difficult to acknowledge your knowledge has limits. Being able to recognize when you are operating on perceived wisdom is beyond most people. Particularly educated sorts

Posted by: Pete Bog at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (Ltv6g)

26 It must be very comforting to people in a snowstorm to know that they have ample makings for French Toast.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (JwHjN)
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In Portland, they'll be fighting each other for the last bunch of kale.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (3Z6pZ)

27 I'll be darned. It's "hare-brained" and not "hair-brained".

Always learning from CBD.

Posted by: creeper at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (fE1wp)

28 ample makings for French Toast.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (JwHjN)

Don't start!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (wYseH)

29 The limits of knowledge is something that conservatives should appreciate, but all too often we substitute our belief for knowledge. Just because we think it is true...should be true, want it to be true...doesn't make it so.

How very true.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (NWiLs)

30 20 I made the mistake of doing my Thanksgiving shopping last year on the day before. I was in line to checkout of 1 1/2 hours.

That was just the check out line not the total shopping time. Nightmare.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (ZLI7S)

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This is why the best strategy to Thanksgiving dinner is the odd bits you've had in your cupboard for a couple of years and don't remember the reasons why you bought them, or even if you did buy them. They may be from the previous owner of the house for all you know.

At least you don't deal with holiday shopping.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (q80AH)

31 Particularly educated sorts
Posted by: Pete Bog at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (Ltv6g)

I've read the two groups easiest to con are the uneducated and the highly educated. I believe it.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (UG4SD)

32 Being able to recognize when you are operating on perceived wisdom is beyond most people.

1. They know.

2. All they want is power.

3. No, really.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (Boy/L)

33 Willowed: AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349489/
Posted by: Ian S.
..........

Hahaha!

After the whole Amazon HQ debacle, you would think people would know better than to take advice from Mis Donkeychompers..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (so+oy)

34 At least you don't deal with holiday shopping.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (q80AH)

I have a block of Velveeta from about 2014. It will, I hope, be served at my funeral.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (wYseH)

35 That was just the check out line not the total shopping time. Nightmare.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM

Combat grocery shopping. Really, stay in the middle of the aisle granny. Just stare, take your time. And I am sure we'll meet again when you're in front of me with 234 coupons, half of which are expired. Say, weren't you in front of me at the gas station yesterday making 24 different lotttery transactions?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (U7cQ/)

36 Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:04 AM (U7cQ/)

The Grumpy Grandma just left for the store about 1.5 miles down the road. It's snowing hard, the wind is blowing 20 gusting to 30 and we have about 10-12 inches of accumulation.

"Keep your phone handy" she said....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (gS3l1)

37 This is why the best strategy to Thanksgiving dinner is the odd bits you've had in your cupboard for a couple of years and don't remember the reasons why you bought them, or even if you did buy them.

87 bottles of capers.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (Boy/L)

38 34 At least you don't deal with holiday shopping.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (q80AH)

I have a block of Velveeta from about 2014. It will, I hope, be served at my funeral.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (wYseH)

========

Well, death can be lonely. Gotta get some company.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:12 AM (q80AH)

39 Travel everywhere in the country sounds ugly this week. Going to Phoenix where the weather is more like Denver. Except in Denver the weather is more like Calgary

Posted by: Pete Bog at November 26, 2019 11:12 AM (Ltv6g)

40 "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 26, 2019 11:12 AM (jp0Bv)

41 Trying to find a way to duck out of Thanksgiving dinner. Here are the ingredients:

Father-in-law - formerly abusive, divorced, and out of the family's life for decades. Now old and infirm and no one else to care for him. Starting dementia.

Mother-in-law - sweet as anything. Well into dementia.

Wife: stopped talking to me about 5 days ago. Long stupid story.

Son: ended contact with me and family back in February.

Stepson: skipping out on Thanksgiving for Friendsgiving because years ago - before he was born - his grandfather (see formerly abusive FIL) was racist

Stepdaughter: accuses aunt (SIL) of abuse when she was very young - did not happen, was coached into it by her dad who was using CPS as a weapon.

Couldn't invite any of my family members because my stepkids think they are terrible people.

Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

42 The Oxford Comma is what separates us from the beast of the field.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (HaL55)

43 39 Travel everywhere in the country sounds ugly this week. Going to Phoenix where the weather is more like Denver. Except in Denver the weather is more like Calgary
Posted by: Pete Bog at November 26, 2019 11:12 AM (Ltv6g)

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This is the first holiday season that I can remember ever where I'm not going anywhere.

Having a newborn has certain advantages.

"No, you come and see us. I'm not putting a baby, a five year old, and two dogs in my car for eight hours to see you."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (q80AH)

44 On the subject of Lindsay Graham and everyone promising that he will REGRET it if he brings the boom on Biden.... 1. They all seem to be talking from the same memo. 2 Is there something about LG that they are threatening that would cause him harm? Do they know something we don't about him? They make it sound like they have something bigger than Burisma kickbacks to the Biden family to unleash.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (L4FL3)

45 Willowed: AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349489/
Posted by: Ian S

That is priceless. To all those butthurt employees:

Take every penny you can beg, borrow and steal and start your own company.

Risk everything. Then you can run it how you see fit.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (Vddbf)

46 It must be very comforting to people in a snowstorm to know that they have ample makings for French Toast.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 26, 2019 11:08 AM (JwHjN)
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In Portland, they'll be fighting each other for the last bunch of kale.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (3Z6pZ)

I'm reminded of the picture from a Houston grocery store, i believe, that was about to get pummeled by a hurricane. the shelves were bare, EXCEPT for the vegan section - fully stocked.

proving that even vegans would rather DIE than eat that crap...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (8D42x)

47 Well the workers can always get as job at Amaz.. Wait, never mind, coding it is.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (U7cQ/)

48 I can't conceive of a case for allowing the mentally ill experts greater control over my life.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (Uu+Jp)

49 41
Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

==========

Just go to a sports bar and eat nachos.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (q80AH)

50 Plato, uber liberal, was wrong about the biggest thing, the nature of being, as his famous student pointed out. The problem with the type of philosophy that they epitomized, the philosophy of being, is it is divided between sense and intellect, and this divide cannot be overcome. The liberals are always on the side of intellect, which appears to provide freedom from sense. But as soon as they obtain this freedom, they lose touch with reality.

Posted by: Caliban at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (qEujL)

51 37
87 bottles of capers.

take one down
pass it around
86 bottles of capers

Posted by: Anachronda at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (sGtp+)

52 Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

Dude. Move out. Like three states over. Get a new name.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (Boy/L)

53 First time I've seen Thousand Millimeter Reich - I'm stealing that one.

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It's not original with me. I don't know who to credit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (+y/Ru)

54 Flammable and inflammable mean the same thing.

Thus we go forth, conquer and bring enlightenment to the dull and uninformed.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (gmo/4)

55 48 I can't conceive of a case for allowing the mentally ill experts greater control over my life.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (Uu+Jp)

No Greta for you?

Posted by: Don Q. at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (NgKpN)

56 Trying to find a way to duck out of Thanksgiving dinner. Here are the ingredients:

Take a dose of Ex-Lax, declare a case of the stomach flu.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (UG4SD)

57 Michelle Obama

wut do I win ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (rpxSz)

58
I'm here at home, trying to get up the gumption to shovel the two plus feet of snow off my driveway so that I can maybe get to work.

Cardiologist told me that no one over 40 should shovel snow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (aKsyK)

59 I'm here at home, trying to get up the gumption to shovel the two plus feet of snow off my driveway so that I can maybe get to work. We got hit pretty good in the northern Front Rage, but for once the schools were right to close ahead of time, because there's nothing moving out there.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

..........

I thought they have been saying to completely stay off the roads out your way...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (so+oy)

60 Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster

Grab a fifth and go fishing.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (Vddbf)

61 To paraphrase something the Z Man posted on his blog: Politicians aren't a reflection of the people, they are a reflection of the political class that recruits and grooms them. The reason that the quality of politicians is in decline is because the system is in decline. Both parties are controlled by narrow interests at odds with the needs of the country.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (prSvo)

62 On the subject of Lindsay Graham and everyone
promising that he will REGRET it if he brings the boom on Biden.... 1.
They all seem to be talking from the same memo. 2 Is there something
about LG that they are threatening that would cause him harm? Do they
know something we don't about him? They make it sound like they have
something bigger than Burisma kickbacks to the Biden family to unleash.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM---

Probable. mccain certainly had something on him.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (JUOKG)

63 Are others threatening Graham, or is it just Biden.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:17 AM (9VeU0)

64 "So-crates: 'True wisdom consists of knowing that you know nothing.'"

"Hey! That's US, Dude!"

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at November 26, 2019 11:17 AM (L4oYR)

65 I grew up living 27 miles from the barely a town and 40 from the town with grocery and other stores so I don't fathom the shopping rush right before a storm. Always have a spare loaf of bread in the freezer etc. I stopped for groceries last night. We are invitees but I wanted to buy the Xmas turkey while they are on special, make sure we had ingredients for the ambrosia salad to take etc. I forgot to buy the canned pumpkin, luckily I don't need it for T-day and they'll probably run specials on it before Xmas.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2019 11:17 AM (n4y+3)

66 Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM

MapQuest directions. No problem.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:17 AM (ejd/p)

67 Pretty sure LG is gay and they are threatening to out him. Given the current climate I don't think he gives two fucks anymore.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (prSvo)

68 Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

Stage a fake kidnapping. That'll keep everyone busy for a while.

Posted by: josephistan at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (7HtZB)

69 >>On the subject of Lindsay Graham and everyone promising that he will REGRET it if he brings the boom on Biden.... 1. They all seem to be talking from the same memo. 2 Is there something about LG that they are threatening that would cause him harm? Do they know something we don't about him? They make it sound like they have something bigger than Burisma kickbacks to the Biden family to unleash.

While McCain took the lead role with Ukraine, Lyndsey was also deeply involved with the country. On the same day McCain was given some award by Poroshenko for his contributions to Ukraine Lyndsey was given an award by Poroshenko as well.

I haven't seen him tied to any corruption, maybe they are just threatening to release stuff on his BFF McCain. But Lyndsey doesn't seem to be backing down.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

70 Sounds to me like they want to out Lindsey.

Which will shock exactly zero people and move the needle that much, too.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (Boy/L)

71 The Grumpy Grandma just left for the store about 1.5 miles down the road. It's snowing hard, the wind is blowing 20 gusting to 30 and we have about 10-12 inches of accumulation.

"Keep your phone handy" she said....
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM

Where are you? Our storm in MN isn't supposed to start until late afternoon. Work to be done here and then off to get items for t-day and the storm. They are talking more this weekend. So in order of importance. Liquor store. gas station, grocery store. Home. Hell knowing how the stores are going to be. I might have to stop at the bar first.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (U7cQ/)

72 Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

just be the person we know

and everything will be peachy

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (rpxSz)

73 44- I think they are subtly threatening to out him as gay.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (87EdW)

74 Posted by: Pug Mahon

..........

I thought they have been saying to completely stay off the roads out your way...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (so+oy)

Actually I just talked to my boss. He said, "Don't be stupid. Have a beer and watch a movie."

Sound advice.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (x8Wzq)

75 It isn't "facts over feelings". Shapiro converts no one who wasn't receptive.

It is knowing a good process over a bad one for arriving at a conclusion. That is what separates conservatives from liberals.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (m1tUJ)

76 How can we possibly take seriously anything said in a post when it begins with that punky munky? I mean, sure, I grew inured to it for a while, but ... it's really disturbing. And it's no lecturing gorilla, knawmean?

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for a story at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (LtRrq)

77 Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM---

Probable. mccain certainly had something on him.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2019 11:15 AM (JUOKG)

True....that certainly seemed true. But if that dirt were known and had been passed top the Dems, then he would not be acting quite like the Based Lindsey (did I use based right?) we have been seeing lately. Ehhh I don't know. Anyhoo the dems do come off a little like Vinnie Boombatz with the constant threatening of LG. Creepy and thuggish.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (L4FL3)

78 I don't run to the store when I'm out of garlic powder. The nearest one is twenty miles in any direction. Thank dog for neighbors.

Posted by: creeper at November 26, 2019 11:20 AM (fE1wp)

79 77 True....that certainly seemed true. But if that dirt were known and had been passed top the Dems, then he would not be acting quite like the Based Lindsey (did I use based right?) we have been seeing lately. Ehhh I don't know. Anyhoo the dems do come off a little like Vinnie Boombatz with the constant threatening of LG. Creepy and thuggish.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (L4FL3)

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I think the easier explanation is personal loyalty.

Graham had grown loyal to McCain over his time in the Senate, allowing McCain to dictate certain policy and strategy preferences. With McCain gone, Graham can do what feels right to him first without needing to check with his older, "wiser" friend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:21 AM (q80AH)

80

Da Nang Dick Blumenthal will go all Rambo on Lindsey.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:21 AM (aKsyK)

81 Agree with all that outing Lindsey will backfire. Everybody knows, nobody cares.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:21 AM (87EdW)

82 Creepy and thuggish.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:19 AM (L4FL3)
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Dems understand creepy and thuggish. Which, by the way, sounds like rejects from the Seven Dwarfs.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 26, 2019 11:22 AM (3Z6pZ)

83 81 Agree with all that outing Lindsey will backfire. Everybody knows, nobody cares.
Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:21 AM (87EdW)

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"But South Carolina is filled with racist homophobes who regularly lynch gay people for loving who they want to love!"
-Head of Democratic outreach to red states

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:22 AM (q80AH)

84 67
Pretty sure LG is gay and they are threatening to out him. Given the current climate I don't think he gives two fucks anymore.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (prSvo)

Well if they do out him as gay, kinda makes the Dems look like turds. Again, who is using sexual preference as a weapon? Do them dems think outing him will cause the electorate to cease returning him to the Senate. Not sure anyone cares anymore.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:22 AM (L4FL3)

85 >AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

She should be wearing a monocle and top hat for how much she helps the poor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (m1tUJ)

86 Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

Sounds like a pile of dysfunction. Since your other family won't visit you, maybe you should go visit them. It's semi-justifiable. Might anger the wife any more, but at this point, it's going to end in disaster no matter what, so you may as well get a nice meal out of it.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (J+mig)

87 Pompeo wants to be President

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (rpxSz)

88 Pretty high-falutin' for a cartoon character's sex toy. Now I have a headache after reading that.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (m45I2)

89 Stepdaughter: accuses aunt (SIL) of abuse when she was very young - did not happen, was coached into it by her dad who was using CPS as a weapon.

Couldn't invite any of my family members because my stepkids think they are terrible people.

Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)"

Now I'm thinking, you take those characters, make them all Black, have your part played by Dave Chappelle, you could have a HELL of a script.

Or better yet, fantasy casting, Wife could be played by Aunt Esther, you could be Red Foxx, FiL could be Grady. Oh man, the possibilities are endless!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (Kpl3J)

90 43 39 Travel everywhere in the country sounds ugly this week. Going to Phoenix where the weather is more like Denver. Except in Denver the weather is more like Calgary
Posted by: Pete Bog at November 26, 2019 11:12 AM (Ltv6g)

==========

This is the first holiday season that I can remember ever where I'm not going anywhere.

Having a newborn has certain advantages.

"No, you come and see us. I'm not putting a baby, a five year old, and two dogs in my car for eight hours to see you."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (q80AH)

I've been gifted with an illness so I can avoid dinner with my lefty relatives. I'll miss the side dishes but I can live without the Orangemanbad (and the 1.5-hour one-way drive).

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (RD7QR)

91
>AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

She should be wearing a monocle and top hat for how much she helps the poor.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Ms. Peanut

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (aKsyK)

92 Da Nang Dick Blumenthal will go all Rambo on Lindsey.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:21 AM (aKsyK)

That would be a great headline. Hey Maybe DT Jr reads here and can twat that out.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (L4FL3)

93 Oh, those beasts. Why I neva
OK Boomer

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (Fxgkp)

94 Da Nang Dick got tough when he was lying face down in the mud of the rice paddies of Vietnam with Charlie's bullets flying inches over his head.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (+y/Ru)

95 84- those rules only apply to republicans. For confirmation, see Grennel, Palin, Thomas, et al.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (87EdW)

96
AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

===========

Beautiful.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (lbqpb)

97 Do them dems think outing him will cause the electorate to cease returning him to the Senate. Not sure anyone cares anymore.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:22 AM

Yes. They and their base believe that we're all knuckle dragging haters who lynch gheys for fun. They really don't understand us. Thus is why they fail.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:24 AM (dkvcO)

98 48 I can't conceive of a case for allowing the mentally ill experts greater control over my life.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 26, 2019 11:14 AM (Uu+Jp)

Can't help who your parents are.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

99 Stay safe snowfall experiencing morons ...

Posted by: Adriane the There's no Such Thing as Truth Serum Critic ... at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (LPnfS)

100 The left institutionalizes incompetence and poor performance and then wants to put it in charge of healthcare for 330 million people.

We're just not evolved enough to see the brilliance of that idea.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (xfb67)

101 Pompeo wants to be President

You've noticed, eh?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (Boy/L)

102 Here it is. John McCain and Lindsey Graham awarded state honors by Poroshenko days before Trump's inauguration.

https://tinyurl.com/tggvc86

Likely tied to Poroshenko's charm offensive to make up for working with Hillary to defeat Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (ZLI7S)

103 Everyone knows Sen. Graham is gay. No one cares. It may have been more effective in 1994 or something, but no one really cares any more.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (JRaU+)

104 85
>AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to
unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn
to code.

She should be wearing a monocle and top hat for how much she helps the poor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (m1tUJ)

She's 2 for 2, with Amazon cancelling the shipping center in her district.Keep at it AOC.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:25 AM (L4FL3)

105 Pug's Boss "just take it easy,have a beer and watch a movie" under his breath...that fcukers fired tomorrow!!!

Posted by: saf at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (5IHGB)

106 "Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning does not know."

-Lao Tzu

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (J+mig)

107 I think Lindsey Graham looked at Pete Buttigieg's rising poll numbers and said, "Fuck it. I'm outta the closet."

And that's when the fun began.

Posted by: creeper at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (fE1wp)

108 http://bit.ly/33mYGft
*******
EXCLUSIVE: Anti-Trump 'Whistleblower' Eric Ciaramella Met With George Soros Funded Group in White House in September 2016

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (BqBId)

109 I am convinced that it's the same old lady that is on a stake out to get me. She follows me wherever I go. She's in front of me at the gas station making 25 different lotto purchases, I have gas on pump 5 and a cup of coffee. She's at the stop light, making sure it's good and green first. She's on the highway. Doing 45 in a 65 and I can't pass. She's at the grocery store, in the middle of the aisle. Staring at the shelves for minutes. She's at the checkout. Arguing that the 200 coupons she has aren't really expired. She mocks me, she laughs at me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (U7cQ/)

110 Flammable and inflammable mean the same thing.

********

While raze and raise mean the opposite.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (m45I2)

111 87 Pompeo wants to be President
Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 11:23 AM (rpxSz)

Might not be a bad thing, at least until Barron is ready to ascend the Throne of Skulls.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 11:27 AM (RD7QR)

112 Allahpundit is just the worst at reading politics.

I mean, the worst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:28 AM (q80AH)

113 "Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning does not know."
-Lao Tzu

**********

Everything that guy just said is Bullsh*t!
-Ciousin Vinnie

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:28 AM (m45I2)

114 Blaster. Meal is planned to be at your house? Can you unplug the stove or turn off the nat. gas line to it early that morning. Oh Noes folks, we'll just have to go to Cracker Barrel. -- the thinking is that the family won't let freak fly at the public venue?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2019 11:28 AM (n4y+3)

115 109 I am convinced that it's the same old lady that is on a stake out to get me. She follows me wherever I go. She's in front of me at the gas station making 25 different lotto purchases, I have gas on pump 5 and a cup of coffee. She's at the stop light, making sure it's good and green first. She's on the highway. Doing 45 in a 65 and I can't pass. She's at the grocery store, in the middle of the aisle. Staring at the shelves for minutes. She's at the checkout. Arguing that the 200 coupons she has aren't really expired. She mocks me, she laughs at me.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM (U7cQ/)

Harpoon?

Posted by: Cap'n Ahab at November 26, 2019 11:28 AM (RD7QR)

116 101 Pompeo wants to be President

>> No.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 11:29 AM (V150o)

117 Willowed: AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar
energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire
workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349489/

Posted by: Ian S. at November 26, 2019 11:03 AM (ZGrMX)

===
You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 26, 2019 11:29 AM (pw+jk)

118 EXCLUSIVE: Anti-Trump 'Whistleblower' Eric Ciaramella Met With George Soros Funded Group in White House in September 2016
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM

Internet shocked face 0 0

0

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:29 AM (U7cQ/)

119 "Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning does not know."

-Lao Tzu
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 26, 2019 11:26 AM

And always use a small brush for the corners.

- Lu Tze

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:29 AM (ejd/p)

120 I think the easier explanation is personal loyalty.

Graham had grown loyal to McCain over his time in the Senate, allowing McCain to dictate certain policy and strategy preferences. With McCain gone, Graham can do what feels right to him first without needing to check with his older, "wiser" friend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:21 AM (q80AH)

You just named a theme I'd been thinking about, since this week I watched "The Wild Bunch" again for the first time in years. I had forgotten how amazingly good a western that was, and now that I've been thinking more about how plots are constructed and characters are developed, I can appreciate what a masterful job was done with all of that.

Personal Loyalty - what makes it, what breaks it, is the fundamental theme of the entire film.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:29 AM (Kpl3J)

121
"Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning does not know."

-La Choy fortune cookie

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:30 AM (aKsyK)

122 Sen. Graham is gay is not what "they" have on him. I think, it's likely, like all long term politicians, there is a level of corruption in his history.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 11:30 AM (gmo/4)

123 Nobody is shocked or cares if LG is ghey. Next.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:30 AM (U7cQ/)

124
Forecast high of 78 in Brazoria County today. Emergency egg nog, pie and whipped cream reserve is stocked.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM (+Z+gl)

125

Lu Tze, you got some splainin to do!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM (aKsyK)

126 Say, weren't you in front of me at the gas station yesterday making 24 different lotttery transactions?
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:11 AM (U7cQ/)
-------
A MN tradition unlike any other. When the gas truck/propane purchase/pizza making puts you down to one cashier, Lotto Loretta shows up.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM (Xvo1a)

127
To paraphrase something the Z Man posted on his blog: Politicians
aren't a reflection of the people, they are a reflection of the
political class that recruits and grooms them. The reason that the
quality of politicians is in decline is because the system is in
decline. Both parties are controlled by narrow interests at odds with
the needs of the country.

Today's political class is totally uninterested in anything beyond the acquisition and exercise of power. Treating others as equals or even having empathy for others is no longer a quality that's valued, it's merely feigned. Surface appearances, not personal character or integrity, are what's valued.
IMHO, a lot of that is the predictable result of the absence of true faith in God. The people who want to rule over us have no guiding principles such as The Golden Rule or even the recognition of a Higher Power that would temper their ambitions.

"Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

- Groucho Marx

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM (HaL55)

128 EXCLUSIVE: Anti-Trump 'Whistleblower' Eric Ciaramella Met With George Soros Funded Group in White House in September 2016

Just as shocking as LG being gay.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM (Boy/L)

129 AOC encouraged workers at a growing solar energy startup to unionize. They did, and the CEO fired the entire workforce. LOLGF, learn to code.

"I'm telling you guys, she's a Congresswoman! She must know what she's talking about!"
"Gee, I don't know boss. She seems -and I don't mean this harshly- mentally retarded. Maybe we shouldn't take her advice."
"Nonsense! Congresswoman! End of story."
"Well, OK. Tom Nichols says I should listen to people like her. And him."

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM (FJYfm)

130 While raze and raise mean the opposite.
Posted by: Muldoon

Thankfully.

"Raise the drawbridge and raze the bridge! Set stores for siege!"

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (Vddbf)

131

Lindsay! Graham is gay I saw him opening for the Mormon Tabanac Choir in the Oval Mess Room.

interns half price.

Posted by: saf at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (5IHGB)

132 I haven't done a family thing in at least 10 years

one sister, as have told you, demands to be called Dr. Judith
has one extremely anal gay son and one son, 48, never left home and never had a job. Her hubby is a schlub

the other sister, who is also a doctor, is so fucking into being a grandmother that she relates everything to being a grandmother. She's kinda nice but nuts

And my OCD is always triggered by hideous decor
I immediately start counting how many seconds before I can leave

good thing they live 1800 miles away

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (rpxSz)

133 Something I've heard along these lines is that we care WHAT is right (thus always searching for truth with a willing to change our opinion and admit we were wrong) rather than WHO is right (which explains why virtually every Leftist is narcissistic snowflake).

Posted by: ShainS at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (WqPYg)

134 "Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

- Groucho Marx

Just waiting for the Marx Brothers to be cancelled.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (Boy/L)

135 I remember drinking beer and playing frisbee in shorts on Thanksgiving in Denver.
Woke up to a foot of snow the next day.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (88+cf)

136 Harpoon?
Posted by: Cap'n Ahab at November 26, 2019 11:28 AM

Hmmm, I would never harm another human, especially a senior citizen. But do I fantasize about ramming her cart and blowing by her in the aisle sending it's contents asunder? Yes, yes I do.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (U7cQ/)

137
I haven't seen him tied to any corruption, maybe they are just threatening to release stuff on his BFF McCain. But Lyndsey doesn't seem to be backing down.

Don't you dare release anything about the Sainted Juan in the midst of his thirty-six month long funeral!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (pNxlR)

138 The formal aid that Biden was threatening Poroshenko he would cancel if he didn't fire the prosecutor is just the tip of the iceberg. There where hundreds of millions of dollars also flowing into Ukraine from other government agencies in the form of grants, loans and loan guarantees.

Check out this thread. It's all well sourced.

https://tinyurl.com/tnetmu3

Yes, they are scared.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:33 AM (ZLI7S)

139 Wait! What?

Liundsey Graham is GAY!!! Next you'll try telling me that Olympic men's decathlon gold medalist Bruce Jenner is a chick!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:33 AM (m45I2)

140 I was supposed to have a flight lesson scheduled for this weekend, but that looks like it's going to be washed out - again

Posted by: josephistan at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (7HtZB)

141 Great rant, CBD.

As a self-styled "philosopher", a lot of my structure is built on the value of recognizing the role of ignorance as a base state.

It's one of the reasons I get in arguments on this board is my reluctance to substitute convictions and beliefs as bedrock truth.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (YOhRS)

142 A MN tradition unlike any other. When the gas truck/propane purchase/pizza making puts you down to one cashier, Lotto Loretta shows up.
Posted by: jhawk90 at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM

Yep. And I feel ashamed that I want to scream at them. Really loud.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (U7cQ/)

143 A MN tradition unlike any other. When the gas truck/propane purchase/pizza making puts you down to one cashier, Lotto Loretta shows up.
Posted by: jhawk90

You have more than one cashier?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (Vddbf)

144
DC is a nest of incest.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (pNxlR)

145 Lotto Loretta

lol

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (Boy/L)

146 Over the river and through the woods, oh how the wind does blow, it bites our toes and stings our toes as over the ground we go.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (gmo/4)

147 The problem with releasing information about any senators corruption, is that it will nearly certainly be linked to other senators. The graft travels in packs.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (JRaU+)

148 If they have something bad on LG he retires & There is Trey Gowdy & Nikki Haley waiting in the wings

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (BqBId)

149 EXCLUSIVE: Anti-Trump 'Whistleblower' Eric Ciaramella Met With George Soros Funded Group in White House in September 2016

Here's my shocked face.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (HaL55)

150 https://tinyurl.com/Zealot-Transform

Posted by: Marooned at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (8hRlF)

151 the value of recognizing the role of ignorance as a base state...

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:34 AM (YOhRS)

Knowing what you don't know is usually a good thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (wYseH)

152
Old lady gets to the front of the line and only then starts thinking about what she wants. She "wants to see the manager". She slows to 25 before exiting the freeway. She must! go perpendicularly across four lanes of traffic when leaving the corner gas station.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (+Z+gl)

153 Flammable and inflammable mean the same thing.

********

While raze and raise mean the opposite.

-
"Cleave" means the opposite of itself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (+y/Ru)

154 The formal aid that Biden was threatening Poroshenko
he would cancel if he didn't fire the prosecutor is just the tip of the
iceberg. There where hundreds of millions of dollars also flowing into
Ukraine from other government agencies in the form of grants, loans and
loan guarantees.

Check out this thread. It's all well sourced.

https://tinyurl.com/tnetmu3

Yes, they are scared.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:33 AM (ZLI7S)

I wonder how many US govt folks were skimming off of all that.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (88+cf)

155 "Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning does not know."

-La Choy fortune cookie
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:30 AM (aKsyK)

"Is there no Truth in Beauty?"

- Poster at a Star Trek Convention.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)

156 Lotto Loretta shows up.
Posted by: jhawk90 at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM

I am stealing that. LOL. The cherry on top is when they stand at the counter when you're trying to set your items down while they scratch off the new tickets they just wasted their money on. GTFO.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (U7cQ/)

157 I think that just maybe the Kavanaugh thing opened some eyes as to just how far the loons were willing to go. Even a cornered rat will eventually turn and fight.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Boy/L)

158 I wonder how many US govt folks were skimming off of all that.
Posted by: Roland THTG

All. Of. Them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Vddbf)

159
I see the MFM is jerking itself raw over Borat's idiotic blather about policing political ads. Democracy depends on "shared truths" aka liberal lies. What a wanker. I never found him or any of his characters funny

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (kw5n8)

160 Check out this thread. It's all well sourced.

https://tinyurl.com/tnetmu3

Yes, they are scared.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:33 AM

Iiiinteresting....

Plus kittehs.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (ejd/p)

161 "Travel everywhere in the country sounds ugly this week. Going to Phoenix where the weather is more like Denver. Except in Denver the weather is more like Calgary"

I await the breathless reports to appear in March of next year that "this was the 2nd warmest Winter on record!"

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, Man about Town at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (wmfhQ)

162 134 "Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

- Groucho Marx

Just waiting for the Marx Brothers to be cancelled.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (Boy/L)

/sings

Hail, Hail Freedonia! Land of the FREEEEEEEE

Posted by: President Rufus T. Firefly, on his way to impeachment at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (NgKpN)

163
156 Lotto Loretta shows up.
Posted by: jhawk90 at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM

"Yo! Las Vegas is that-a-way."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (+Z+gl)

164 >>I wonder how many US govt folks were skimming off of all that.

One of Schiff's top fundraisers is a Ukrainian arms dealer.

The louder they scream the more likely they are dirty is a rule I live by.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (ZLI7S)

165 144
DC is a nest of incest.

It's a wonderful, magical, place. My whole family loves it. LOVES it. All night, every night! (giggle)

Posted by: Illhan Omar at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (vN4+Q)

166 stings our nose.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (gmo/4)

167 "Cleave" means the opposite of itself.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (+y/Ru)
-----
I've always liked the phrase "Cloven in twain".

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (3Z6pZ)

168 Thing about Borat, he's probably f'ing with them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 26, 2019 11:38 AM (xfb67)

169 I wonder how many US govt folks were skimming off of all that.
Posted by: Roland THTG

All. Of. Them.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Vddbf)

Think the blue state model and then apply to foreign assistance.

Ike should have warned us about the NGO industrial complex.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:39 AM (Boy/L)

170 I made the mistake of doing my Thanksgiving shopping last year on the day before. I was in line to checkout of 1 1/2 hours.

That was just the check out line not the total shopping time. Nightmare.
Posted by: JackStraw

I shave about once a week (whether i need to or not)

Whenever I'm in a slow moving line. I turn to the people behind me and say "I was clean shaven when I got in this line"

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 11:39 AM (arJlL)

171 I see Graham as Clifton Webb

less the charm and talent

but still asexual

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 11:39 AM (rpxSz)

172 "Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning does not know."

-La Choy fortune cookie
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2019 11:30 AM (aKsyK)

And he who THINKS he knows about Broads, does not know.

Posted by: Every American Man at November 26, 2019 11:39 AM (NgKpN)

173 "That's why we embrace Adam Smith's invisible hand, and laugh and laugh
at communist five-year plans and government-run...um...anything."

imo the whole "Free (global) Trade" will bring us world peace, was a case of being fooled by the globalists, that loved to escape US regulation (abuse of labor, pollution, currency advantages, offshoring profits ...) ... but they kept the veneer of "comparative advantage" and other ideals that sounded academic and virtuous.

Of course the "invisible hand" concept makes a good point, but invisible hands come in many forms ... mafias, governments ... not just consumer choice. Any place their is power, it is to some degree being abused by invisible hands (power corrupts).

When those in government accrue power, their hands fiddle with the mechanisms of markets, taxes, interstate trade, selective prosecution/persecution ... and so on. They form bureaucratic shadow governments that use government invisible hands to serve their own jobs and golden pensions, and quietly do the Lois Lerner-esque attacks on those seeking reform.

And now we confront the mysterious DeepState Hydra, and realize the power of the oligarchs and sub-heads of state (Mueller/Comey/Brennan types) has operated on a deeper level, that directs not just consumer choice, but manipulates governments. The secret of their success has been the secrecy of their moves.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 26, 2019 11:39 AM (Cus5s)

174 167 "Cleave" means the opposite of itself.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (+y/Ru)
-----
I've always liked the phrase "Cloven in twain".
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 26, 2019 11:37 AM (3Z6pZ)

I'm partial to cleavage myself.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (Kpl3J)

175 Knowing what you don't know is usually a good thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM

Yep. Which is why the self-unaware idiots in the MFM guffawed over Cheney's "unknown unknowns" quote.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (ejd/p)

176 Flammable and inflammable mean the same thing.

********

While raze and raise mean the opposite.

"Cleave" means the opposite of itself.

'Run' has over 20 meanings ...

Posted by: Adriane the There's no Such Thing as Truth Serum Critic ... at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (LPnfS)

177 134 "Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

- Groucho Marx

Just waiting for the Marx Brothers to be cancelled.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (Boy/L)

===========

He says "darkies" in one of their songs.

The second milennials discover the Marx Brothers, they're canceled.

Better make sure they have no idea who the Marx Brothers are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (q80AH)

178 And it's interesting that you chose this topic as it has to do with something I was thinking of putting into words.

Andrew McCarthy's new book basically says that the CIA and NATO intelligence decided 1) they didn't want a President Trump, and that 2) they would use taxpayer dollars and the apparatus of keeping our countries safe to create a conspiracy about him.

This is how destructive it is to DEMOCRACY to say that "All the intelligence agencies agree" on Orangemanbad but you're not allowed to know the specifics because we're the experts.

Republics make an account for ignorance because there is no state direction (no "arc of history", either), and realizing the mutual ignorance of the One True Way, we put things up for a vote.

Voting allows for ignorance and the structure of each person looking after their own interests and their own agendas makes it somewhat of a wash.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (YOhRS)

179 We are getting ready for Thanksgiving Feast today. My son is a policeman and has to work on Thursday. Also, this is the first year all the varmints aren't at the table, one is too far away.

Mashed potatoes and gravy are one of life's great pleasures.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (FTlwv)

180 Just because we think it is true...should be true, want it to be true...doesn't make it so.
======

I am thin and gorgeous!

Posted by: Tank Abrams at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (vg8iE)

181 148 If they have something bad on LG he retires & There is Trey Gowdy & Nikki Haley waiting in the wings
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 11:35 AM (BqBId)

========

Gowdy's never going back into Congress.

He retired because he hated it so much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)

182 Turkey day prep time, START!!

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (W+kMI)

183
If ignorance is bliss, why are more people smiling?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (m45I2)

184 Trying to figure out how to just go to Cracker Barrel.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

ugh, prayers and condolences.

maybe plenty of whiskey in the sitting room if you MUST attend?

and i'd recommend Bob Evans over cracker barrel for thanksgiving.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (8D42x)

185 114 Blaster. Meal is planned to be at your house? Can you unplug the stove or turn off the nat. gas line to it early that morning. Oh Noes folks, we'll just have to go to Cracker Barrel. -- the thinking is that the family won't let freak fly at the public venue?
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2019 11:28 AM (n4y+3)

Yes, scheduled at my house, no I don't want to be there. I want to go to CB by myself.

My SIL (the aggrieved one) says just eat the food and watch movies.

Eh.

As far as making a movie from it, I prefer Madea to Chappelle.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (9VeU0)

186 Voting allows for ignorance and the structure of each person looking after their own interests and their own agendas makes it somewhat of a wash.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (YOhRS)

Sometimes, the Madness Of Crowds is a good thing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (BiNEL)

187 The circumference of our knowledge is also the circumference of our ignorance.

Posted by: iandeal at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (vgGyZ)

188 Just when you think your family can be strange at times you read about other families or hear your coworkers talk about their families. Okay... mines not so bad that I can't live with it

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:42 AM (jm1YL)

189 >>Gowdy's never going back into Congress.

>>He retired because he hated it so much.

Plus he starts a new job in January. Working for Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:42 AM (ZLI7S)

190 The Oxford Comma is what separates us from the beast of the field.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:13 AM (HaL55)

while important i believe the Shatner Comma is the critical piece.

the Walken Comma is just showing off...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 11:42 AM (8D42x)

191 "Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

- Groucho Marx

Just waiting for the Marx Brothers to be cancelled.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:32 AM (Boy/L)
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I reflected on that saying last week in contemplating that Schiff appeared sincere in his closing statement that apathetic Americans had let Trump off the hook of some serious wrongdoing.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:42 AM (YOhRS)

192 If ignorance is bliss, why are more people smiling?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (m45I2)

If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (BiNEL)

193 Blaster, you should consider Selfsgiving

"I am just so thankful that none of you could be here today."

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=cC6ppvQGzkY

Posted by: Kindltot at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (1glZx)

194 Lotto Loretta shows up.

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Inspired a title for Tank Abram's CBS romantic series, Whole Lotta Love.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (+y/Ru)

195 ''maybe plenty of whiskey in the sitting room if you MUST attend? ''

With a shot or two before they arrive just to steel your nerves.

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (jm1YL)

196 First, the warning to threat has all of US talking about how he must be gay.

Second, SC is a machine politics state, and Graham inherited Strom Thurmond's operation. If there is anything shady in Graham's past, its in there somewhere.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (9VeU0)

197 I reflected on that saying last week in contemplating that Schiff appeared sincere in his closing statement that apathetic Americans had let Trump off the hook of some serious wrongdoing.

And, my friends, is what we call a "tell" in poker.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (Boy/L)

198 Well, Mom and sister are starting, anyway. Let us all salute the mothers of America fighting their way through the stores to bring home a month's worth of groceries, to be consumed in a long weekend!

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (W+kMI)

199 i don't think miss lindsey is gay. asexual, maybe. noone will ever meet his high standards. he loves lindsey, that's it. oh, and money.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 11:44 AM (KP5rU)

200 Blaster, if you have a copy of The Deplorable Gourmet, it sounds like you're all set to make the Dysfunctional Family Mashed Potatoes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:44 AM (ejd/p)

201 Gowdy's never going back into Congress.

He retired because he hated it so much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)
****
I am not buying it, his path was blocked by LG & Tim Scott as Senators. Being a Big fish in a little pond like a Rep. being a Senator is completely different.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 11:44 AM (BqBId)

202 Sometimes, the Madness Of Crowds is a good thing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (BiNEL)
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Well, the only people to suffer from it are the crowds.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (YOhRS)

203 We started helping at the church turkey dinners for the less advantaged, instead of engaging in the traditional gluttony.

Makes me more thankful for that which I have.
I do insist on pumpkin pie though.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (88+cf)

204 Which is why the self-unaware idiots in the MFM guffawed over Cheney's* "unknown unknowns" quote.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (ejd/p)

*Rumsfeld IIRC

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (BiNEL)

205 196 First, the warning to threat has all of US talking about how he must be gay.

Second, SC is a machine politics state, and Graham inherited Strom Thurmond's operation. If there is anything shady in Graham's past, its in there somewhere.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (9VeU0)

========

He's expertly handled the inherited machinery of that seat. The only way he's leaving is if he feels like it or dies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (q80AH)

206 157
I think that just maybe the Kavanaugh thing opened some eyes as to just
how far the loons were willing to go. Even a cornered rat will
eventually turn and fight.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Boy/L)

It's really hard to imagine a bigger sh1tshow that the Kav hearings without gunfire and stabbings. But sooner or later the Dems will have to turn it to 12 or 13 when RBG joins the Choir Invisible.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (L4FL3)

207 Pompeo was just asked about testifying to Congress about Ukraine. He answered by saying something like "When the time is right all good things happen" and then smiled like the Cheshire Cat.

The trap is closing.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

208 The madness has started. I saw a guy at Walmart putting up big balloons that show where the lines start for all of the hot items for Black Friday.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2019 11:46 AM (JUOKG)

209 201 Gowdy's never going back into Congress.

He retired because he hated it so much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)
****
I am not buying it, his path was blocked by LG & Tim Scott as Senators. Being a Big fish in a little pond like a Rep. being a Senator is completely different.
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 11:44 AM (BqBId)

========

As a federal prosecutor, he was used to getting things done by putting people in jail.

While in the House he yelled at people in committee hearings just to watch those same people walk around without any consequences. And legislation never really materialized on anything.

Yeah, I can see why he would generally hate Congress as a job.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:46 AM (q80AH)

210 121

"Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not
beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning
does not know."

-La Choy fortune cookie

what is, was. what was, will be. what will be, was, but will be again.

Posted by: Arnold Horshack at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (sGtp+)

211 207 Pompeo was just asked about testifying to Congress about Ukraine. He answered by saying something like "When the time is right all good things happen" and then smiled like the Cheshire Cat.

The trap is closing.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

=========

The NYT times tells me that nothing's happening, and I trust them 100% about everything now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (q80AH)

212 But sooner or later the Dems will have to turn it to 12 or 13 when RBG joins the Choir Invisible.

Deep fake video and audio.

I'm calling it right now.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (Boy/L)

213 And, my friends, is what we call a "tell" in poker.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (Boy/L)
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My only conclusion based on the actual effect on me was 1) Schiff was a sincere loon, or 2) Schiff had perfected faking sincerity. And it seems to be that Congress would filter out the worst fakers.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (YOhRS)

214 197 I reflected on that saying last week in contemplating that Schiff appeared sincere in his closing statement that apathetic Americans had let Trump off the hook of some serious wrongdoing.

And, my friends, is what we call a "tell" in poker.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (Boy/L)

Yep - backed up by that story this morning that Lawrence, from Michigan, thinks Impeachment is now a bad idea. This is a safe dem seat; if she's going weak, imagine what's happening to the rep's from Trump districts who don't want to be booted next year.

I think Schiff, behind the scenes, sold them all a big bill of goods, I think he told them "Oh yeah I've got the smoking gun! I'm going to prove it all live on TV! It's gonna be huge!!!!" and suddenly, they're realizing what we've known for quite a while: Schiff is a huge and shameless liar, and he's talked them all into walking out onto the limb with him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (Kpl3J)

215 When I first got my doctorate 20 years ago, I was visiting over at my parent's house when one of my mother's friends dropped by. I hadn't seen her in awhile, and she asked, "How are you, Mr. Farmer?" My mother immediately corrected her- "He's Doctor Farmer now, but not the kind that helps people." Never cared to be called Doctor- feels presumptuous.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (87EdW)

216 Turkey's are going in the brine tonight. Might head home early if the snow gets bad. But Jack as you alluded. I am dreading the store on the way home. Bar first I think, then store.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (U7cQ/)

217 The NYT times tells me that nothing's happening, and I trust them 100% about everything now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (Boy/L)

218 ''Second, SC is a machine politics state, and Graham inherited Strom Thurmond's operation. If there is anything shady in Graham's past, its in there somewhere.''

One thing I learned living in SC is that they loved Strom. They loved him because he got things done for THEM. If you you called his office with a concern or complaint they were on it for you.

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (jm1YL)

219 Ahh. So what you need to do Blaster is announce that "Oh Noes we don't have enough soda, I'll make a run to 7-11 and get some. Call/text to explain you have a flat tire, but no worries you'll just be a bit late. Call/text later that the spare is flat but someone is offering you a ride to get the tire aired up.

Of course you'lll have to decide if the extra ire of the spouse is worth it or the lesser of evils is just to endure the zoo.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (n4y+3)

220 ... Going to Phoenix ...
Posted by: Pete Bog

They're predicting showers for Thursday & Friday.

And nobody down here knows how to drive in the rain.

just sayin'

Posted by: Adriane the There's no Such Thing as Truth Serum Critic ... at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (LPnfS)

221 >>The NYT times tells me that nothing's happening, and I trust them 100% about everything now.

You should probably listen to them. Their coverage of Trump's collusion with Russia was spot on.

And now they know that it was just a low level employee in Cincinnati who changed a FISA application all by himself and somehow nobody else in the entire FBI or DOJ leadership noticed it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)

222 One of my favorite blinds spots about the Left is that they think they understand us.

We'd all be *SHOCKED* to find out Lindsay Graham is gay and we'd disown him as conservative.

First, we disowned him a long time ago and we treat him as a transactional conservative.

Second, we've known for about 20 years that he's gay and don't give a shit.

Posted by: MJ at November 26, 2019 11:49 AM (gAMkn)

223 I think that just maybe the Kavanaugh thing opened some eyes as to just how far the loons were willing to go.

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Whaaa? Two Door Blasey Coupe has gotten at least two awards for courage and honesty, one from the ACLU!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:49 AM (+y/Ru)

224 I always figured impeachment was about peeling off votes for 2020, which means they can't conclude it and can't let it go to the Senate.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 26, 2019 11:49 AM (xfb67)

225 The madness has started. I saw a guy at Walmart putting up big balloons that show where the lines start for all of the hot items for Black Friday.
Posted by: Mr. Scott

Picked up the wife's Christmas present yesterday and had hell hiding it because I didn't want to have to pick it up on Black Friday.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:49 AM (Vddbf)

226 I think Schiff, behind the scenes, sold them all a big bill of goods, I think he told them "Oh yeah I've got the smoking gun! I'm going to prove it all live on TV! It's gonna be huge!!!!" and suddenly, they're realizing what we've known for quite a while: Schiff is a huge and shameless liar, and he's talked them all into walking out onto the limb with him.

It never occurred to any of the plotters that Trump would immediately release the transcript. Dumbasses.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:49 AM (Boy/L)

227 Deep fake video and audio.
I'm calling it right now.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (Boy/L)

Why do you think Big Tech is investing so much in advanced Computer Graphics Imagery!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 26, 2019 11:49 AM (BiNEL)

228 RE Cracker Barrel:

I have found that Waffle House is a terrific place to go on a Holiday. People aren't usually drunk that time of day, it's busy and most folks are glad to have a place, and finally the staff are usually super happy because they are making bank that day.

We made reservations on Christmas night once for Buca Da Bepo or whatever, and when we got there they mistakenly had been seating first come, first serve and reservations were de facto not being honored.

So many angry people.

I said, hey, Waffle House is open, let's go there. So we went and they sang the 12 Days of Waffle House Christmas to us on request. Our store wrote their own lyrics...sooo great.

Judy has been there for 30 years, Laura for 25, and Dawn for 20.

Also, I hate Bucca de Boppa, or whatever, anyway.

Oh if you ever happen to stop by the Waffle House just south of Nashville on I-65 for breakfast, please tell them I said hello.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (JkygK)

229 An expert is a person who learns more and more about less and less until eventually he knows everything about nothing.

A generalist is a person who learns less and less about more and ore until eventually he knows nothing about everything.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (m45I2)

230 ''"He's Doctor Farmer now, but not the kind that helps people."

From anyone else but a parent that would be called damning with faint praise.

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (jm1YL)

231 -La Choy fortune cookie

what is, was. what was, will be. what will be, was, but will be again.
Posted by: Arnold Horshack at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (sGtp+)

To Be, is to Do. To Do is To Be. Doobee Doobee Doo...

Posted by: Zombie Frank Sinatra at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (Kpl3J)

232 199 i don't think miss lindsey is gay. asexual, maybe. noone will ever meet his high standards. he loves lindsey, that's it. oh, and money.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 11:44 AM (KP5rU)

Who doesn't love money? Or at least like it a lot?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (NWiLs)

233
Never cared to be called Doctor- feels presumptuous.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver

Should be used with a heavy dollop of mock pompousness. "My dear Dr. Lynch!" "My dear Dr. Hadrian!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (+Z+gl)

234 And, my friends, is what we call a "tell" in poker.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:43 AM (Boy/L)

Yep - backed up by that story this morning that Lawrence, from Michigan, thinks Impeachment is now a bad idea. This is a safe dem seat; if she's going weak, imagine what's happening to the rep's from Trump districts who don't want to be booted next year.

I think Schiff, behind the scenes, sold them all a big bill of goods, I think he told them "Oh yeah I've got the smoking gun! I'm going to prove it all live on TV! It's gonna be huge!!!!" and suddenly, they're realizing what we've known for quite a while: Schiff is a huge and shameless liar, and he's talked them all into walking out onto the limb with him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM

Yep. I think Balloon head is fucked. He was saying the SAME shit with Russia. We got him! Smoking gun! Soon! Free beer tomorrow!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (U7cQ/)

235 He's expertly handled the inherited machinery of that seat. The only way he's leaving is if he feels like it or dies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (q80AH)

Agreed.

Lots of people think that he gets re-elected because of open primaries, but that just isn't so. He is a very popular Republican in SC.

So, if Biden or whoever else is threatening him is trying to take him out, it has to be something that would either be criminal or knock him out of SC politics. (The first is not necessarily the second!)

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (9VeU0)

236 You just named a theme I'd been thinking about, since this week I watched "The Wild Bunch" again for the first time in years. I had forgotten how amazingly good a western that was, and now that I've been thinking more about how plots are constructed and characters are developed, I can appreciate what a masterful job was done with all of that.

Personal Loyalty - what makes it, what breaks it, is the fundamental theme of the entire film.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:29 AM (Kpl3J)

True, but the reason I like the movie is that it is an introduction to what Mexico was like 100 years ago, which has echoes in our world today (cartel wars, mass migration, etc.). Although Pershing chasing Pancho Villa is dimly in historical memory for many, almost no one is aware that we landed in Veracruz and occupied it for 7 months.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 26, 2019 11:51 AM (jK8Z7)

237 The NYT times tells me that nothing's happening, and I trust them 100% about everything now.

-
How's their 1619 campaign going what with Trump's 34% approval among blacks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)

238 215 When I first got my doctorate 20 years ago, I was visiting over at my parent's house when one of my mother's friends dropped by. I hadn't seen her in awhile, and she asked, "How are you, Mr. Farmer?"

I was disappointed with the rest of the story.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 11:51 AM (V150o)

239 Which is why the self-unaware idiots in the MFM guffawed over Cheney's* "unknown unknowns" quote.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (ejd/p)

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Exactly. But I think that's an essential part to the coming Conformity: The "solution" is simple, badthink (racism,sexism,homophobia,transphobia,xenophobia) is the only thing that keeps people's feet from following the simple path. It hasn't been fixed before because people were worse. The proof they were worse? IT is not already fixed when they came on the scene.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 11:51 AM (YOhRS)

240 My only conclusion based on the actual effect on me was 1) Schiff was a
sincere loon, or 2) Schiff had perfected faking sincerity. And it seems
to be that Congress would filter out the worst fakers.

Shit-for-Brains is a psychopathic nut-case. You'll never get him figured out until the bodies are discovered. He's probably got a half-finished Jamie Gumb label skin-suit in his basement.

He's the exact type of loon who should be kept far away from the levers of power. Far, far away, for our safety.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:51 AM (HaL55)

241
If you you called his office with a concern or complaint they were on it for you.

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (jm1YL)

The old saying is that if you want to get re-elected, answer your mail.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:52 AM (+Z+gl)

242 My guess is they end up with some lame ass censure vote. Ooooh! Yea LOLGF.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:52 AM (U7cQ/)

243 Who doesn't love money? Or at least like it a lot?
======

Like I've said before, I don't think about money or concern myself with it.

Because I'm better than you. (and uglier)

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (vg8iE)

244 158 I wonder how many US govt folks were skimming off of all that.
Posted by: Roland THTG

All. Of. Them.
__________________

Yep, it seems like the Ukraine was being used as a giant washing machine in which to launder U.S. taxpayer dollars. Our government loaded the money into the machine, and the corrupt pols watched it spin around a few times, then took it out and waltzed off with their pockets stuffed full of it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (k4dH2)

245 If impeachment drama is what they are pulling a year out from the election, 2020 is going to be lit.

The October surprise better not be a letdown.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (xfb67)

246 Huh?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (H8QX8)

247 I wonder how many got railroaded by Schiff over the years when he was a prosecutor. What a piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (FpKdb)

248 Oh if you ever happen to stop by the Waffle House just south of Nashville on I-65 for breakfast, please tell them I said hello.
Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 11:50 AM (JkygK)

Was in a Waffle House one Christmas Eve evening in High Point, NC.

Kyle Petty was there. (I told this story earlier and said Dale Earnhardt, Jr. but it wasn't. It was Kyle Petty.)

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (9VeU0)

249
Censure! Yeah, that'll show him!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (+Z+gl)

250 Helium head just liked being on CNN etc. His reality was just that, his and his alone. His colleagues are more than likely going to look at him like he was the guy who just farted in church.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (U7cQ/)

251 Yep - backed up by that story this morning that Lawrence, from Michigan,
thinks Impeachment is now a bad idea. This is a safe dem seat; if she's
going weak, imagine what's happening to the rep's from Trump districts
who don't want to be booted next year.

I think Schiff, behind the scenes, sold them all a big bill of
goods, I think he told them "Oh yeah I've got the smoking gun! I'm going
to prove it all live on TV! It's gonna be huge!!!!" and suddenly,
they're realizing what we've known for quite a while: Schiff is a huge
and shameless liar, and he's talked them all into walking out onto the
limb with him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM

---

She literally just walked back her statement 10 minutes ago.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (JUOKG)

252 I think Schiff is a shameless liar, but is also completely sincere. It's the Costanza effect. It's not a lie if he believes it, and he truly believes his own bullshit. He believes he clearly sees what's opaque to us, and if only he could explain it more clearly (or if we were smarter) we'd get it too.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (87EdW)

253 247: now you know why i never, ever, trusted the gubmint.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (KP5rU)

254 245 If impeachment drama is what they are pulling a year out from the election, 2020 is going to be lit.

The October surprise better not be a letdown.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (xfb67)

===========

"I was worried that Trump had brought pornstars to the White House to pee on Melania."

"Do you have any evidence of this?"

"No, but I was worried."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (q80AH)

255 206 157
I think that just maybe the Kavanaugh thing opened some eyes as to just
how far the loons were willing to go. Even a cornered rat will
eventually turn and fight.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Boy/L)

It's really hard to imagine a bigger sh1tshow that the Kav hearings without gunfire and stabbings. But sooner or later the Dems will have to turn it to 12 or 13 when RBG joins the Choir Invisible.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 26, 2019 11:45 AM (L4FL3)

The fact that they took her up to Johns Hopkins over the weekend instead of someplace in DC tells me that something is deeply wrong. They know that, which is why they cobbled together this impeachment nonsense.

Posted by: Cap'n Ahab at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (RD7QR)

256 One-legged sockoff

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM (RD7QR)

257 His colleagues are more than likely going to look at him like he was the guy who just farted in church.

No, that's another guy from Cali.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM (Boy/L)

258 I'm trying to imagine how Blaster's Thanksgiving Dinner would go if he were able to mix in some super strong THC drops into the turkey dressing. It could turn out to be a real riot.

Posted by: Zombie Frank Sinatra at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM (Kpl3J)

259 The old saying is that if you want to get re-elected, answer your mail.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:52 AM (+Z+gl)

"It may be graft, but it's honest graft and things get done!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM (BiNEL)

260 Bless Linda for that wonderful story of 11 year old Rickl and his sister. And bless Tami for bringing the horde closer to him and his family. Tami, you are an angel.

This post is dusty.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM (1CjJc)

261
No, that's another guy from Cali.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM

You'll have to be more specific. There's too many of those to count.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:56 AM (U7cQ/)

262 ''Censure! Yeah, that'll show him! ''

PDT will use it at every rally. He'll rub it in their faces and laugh and the crowds will laugh with him. It will be glorious.

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:56 AM (jm1YL)

263 The Rickl stuff is making me cry

You guys do mitzvahs

Posted by: dj3way at November 26, 2019 11:56 AM (bhPL1)

264 That sidebar item on fake driver's licenses-

It looks like the Dims are serious about 2020 vote fraud and getting an early start.

Lots of states let you vote if you just show up with a drivers license.

It's good to know this election will be determined by Our New Illegal Alien Betters.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 26, 2019 11:56 AM (kauXV)

265 ''"It may be graft, but it's honest graft and things get done!"''

You're catching on.

Posted by: Tuna at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (jm1YL)

266 Bear with me here.

Maybe Biden is full of shit. I know, hard to imagine, but maybe he's exaggerating just a bit.

Word as a moron. I'm serious here. No, I mean it. I'm serious.

Posted by: MJ at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (gAMkn)

267 258 I'm trying to imagine how Blaster's Thanksgiving Dinner would go if he were able to mix in some super strong THC drops into the turkey dressing. It could turn out to be a real riot.
Posted by: Zombie Frank Sinatra at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM (Kpl3J)p

That may be best outcome! Mellow everyone out.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (9VeU0)

268 I'm not that smart, so even though I loved philosophy, especially epistemology, I was always bad at it. But I did specifically use epistemology and the philosophy of science to teach myself computer hardware and network troubleshooting.

I learned that having a teacher is better, specifically because of this Gettier business. As Donald Rumsfeld once said,

"It's that shit you don't even know exists that will bite you in the ass."

Pretty sure that's what he said. I could be wrong.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (JkygK)

269 Lotto Loretta shows up.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 26, 2019 11:31 AM

Getting behind the "coupon lady"....who still writes checks.

Posted by: BignJames at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (X/Pw5)

270
"It may be graft, but it's honest graft and things get done!"

Very George Washington Plunkitt, that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (+Z+gl)

271 Bless Linda for that wonderful story of 11 year old Rickl and his sister. And bless Tami for bringing the horde closer to him and his family. Tami, you are an angel.

This post is dusty.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 11:55 AM

Didn't realize until late last night paging through the old threads he had passed. So sad, but Tami, well done and kudos to you. Prayers for Rickl's family.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (U7cQ/)

272 I wonder how many got railroaded by Schiff over the years when he was a prosecutor. What a piece of shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 26, 2019 11:53 AM (FpKdb)

Prosecutors are the weak link in every urban shithole. Imagine giving a Patterico level retard the power to turn thumbs up or down on cases to pursue.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (y7DUB)

273 Who doesn't love money? Or at least like it a lot?

Nothing wrong with it, generally. Honest wealth and the creation of it is a good thing, along with a rising standard of living.

The big question is this: do people who have a lot of money also want others to have it too? Or do they pull up the ladder behind them so others can't have it?

IMHO, that's the difference between self-interest and greed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (HaL55)

274
She literally just walked back her statement 10 minutes ago.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (JUOKG)

heh - she said what they are all thinking. So they put the pressure on her, it's too transparent. Can't put the toothpaste back into the tube.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (Kpl3J)

275 I'm late to this because I'm a spazz, but the email from rickl's sister in the sidebar is one of the most touching pieces of writing I have read in a long time.
I sit here humbled with the good dust in my eyes.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (CLteG)

276 I'm trying to imagine how Blaster's Thanksgiving Dinner would go if he were able to mix in some super strong THC drops into the turkey dressing. It could turn out to be a real riot.
Posted by: Zombie Frank Sinatra

Imagine blaster having a mini Mo-Mee for T Dinner.
The family would die.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (Vddbf)

277 My man Clint Eastwood is at it again.
https://tinyurl.com/rkkv9lm

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (W+kMI)

278 She literally just walked back her statement 10 minutes ago.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS)

She was told what to say, and somebody twisted her arm real good.

This is politics, and there's a lot at stake.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 26, 2019 11:59 AM (vcOmj)

279 Posted by: naturalfake at November 26, 2019 11:56 AM (kauXV)

Really trying to fix the illegal voting and the voter fraud is just sooo very very hard...

BUT, it's on the Congressional agenda...

as soon as our hands aren't tied!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 26, 2019 11:59 AM (BiNEL)

280 Had Thanksgiving dinner at a Chinese restaurant once. We were in the middle of a move. It's a cherished piece of family lore now.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:59 AM (87EdW)

281 The second milennials discover the Marx Brothers, they're canceled.

Better make sure they have no idea who the Marx Brothers are.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 11:40 AM (q80AH)

I always thought "A Day at the Races" was a double entendre and that the Marx Brothers tried very hard to promote African Americans, such as the sequence with the Lindy Hoppers that really had nothing to do with the plot.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (jK8Z7)

282 This is a repeat but I think it's funny. Nazi mass murderer and head of Einsatzgruppe C, Otto Rasch,C had two Ph.Ds and insisted that people address him as "Dr. Dr. Rasch".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

283 Bless Linda for that wonderful story of 11 year old Rickl and his sister. And bless Tami for bringing the horde closer to him and his family. Tami, you are an angel.

This post is dusty.

Yeah.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (M0u+N)

284 Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (V150o)

285 266 Bear with me here.

Maybe Biden is full of shit. I know, hard to imagine, but maybe he's exaggerating just a bit.

Word as a moron. I'm serious here. No, I mean it. I'm serious.
Posted by: MJ at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (gAMkn)
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Heh.

I just had thought. Thanksgiving at the Biden house might be a little strained this year.

Posted by: WisRich at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (G0vdT)

286 Really trying to fix the illegal voting and the voter fraud is just sooo very very hard...

Paper ballots. Big jars of purple ink.

What's good for Iraq is good for us.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (Boy/L)

287
Who doesn't love money? Or at least like it a lot?

I don't love money. But it calms my nerves.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (+Z+gl)

288 Fridays emails me to come in for $5 drinks.

Pumpkin spice mules and pumpkin spice sangria.

Yeah, no.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (9VeU0)

289 Had Thanksgiving dinner at a Chinese restaurant once. We were in the middle of a move. It's a cherished piece of family lore now.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:59 AM (87EdW)
.........

Were the mashed potatoes any good?

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 12:01 PM (v0R5T)

290 >>Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?

We party daily.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)

291 Had Thanksgiving dinner at a Chinese restaurant once. We were in the middle of a move. It's a cherished piece of family lore now.

I got a ticket for jaywalking in Chinatown on Christmas day.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2019 12:02 PM (M0u+N)

292 She literally just walked back her statement 10 minutes ago.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2019 11:54 AM (JUOKG)

heh - she said what they are all thinking. So they put the pressure on her, it's too transparent. Can't put the toothpaste back into the tube.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (Kpl3J)
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Yep.

Posted by: WisRich at November 26, 2019 12:02 PM (G0vdT)

293 "Tami is an angel."

Second.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 12:02 PM (JkygK)

294 Ok, everyone that I haven't fucked, drink!

Posted by: Hunter Biden @ Thanksgiving Dinner at November 26, 2019 12:02 PM (gAMkn)

295 I just had thought. Thanksgiving at the Biden house might be a little strained this year.
Posted by: WisRich

Hunter! Your family sits here, and there, and way over there. Any more coming?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:02 PM (Vddbf)

296
Imagine blaster having a mini Mo-Mee for T Dinner.
The family would die.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (Vddbf)

Can you imagine sharing Thanksgiving with the Horde? It would be epic in so many ways.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (TdMsT)

297 Ahh I see I am not alone.

Long live the Ace of Spades HQ!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (CLteG)

298 Really trying to fix the illegal voting and the voter fraud is just sooo very very hard...

Paper ballots. Big jars of purple ink.

What's good for Iraq is good for us.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (Boy/L) \
\
Where's the graft in that?

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (BiNEL)

299 284 Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (V150o)

What's wrong with checking out a new listing that's just been put on the market? There might even be an Open House coming up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (Kpl3J)

300 I just had thought. Thanksgiving at the Biden house might be a little strained this year.

You can snort anything if it's powdered down.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (Boy/L)

301 http://bit.ly/2DmIqQI
*******
Rush-Witch Hunt (Part III of Fear) (Lyrics) - YouTube
*******
Deep State

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (BqBId)

302 Can you imagine sharing Thanksgiving with the Horde? It would be epic in so many ways.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (TdMsT)
...........

I'll bring the Brussels sprouts.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (v0R5T)

303 If the Dems vote a bill and send it to the Senate to die, they can blame the Republicans for being part of the Trump cult.

If they can't get it together, or can't vote it out of the House, then they are the ones letting Trump off the hook.

Impeachment is coming. #twoweeks

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (9VeU0)

304 Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (V150o)

What's wrong with checking out a new listing that's just been put on the market?

Posted by: Tom Servo

Because someone is tired of her shit?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (Vddbf)

305 290 >>Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?

We party daily.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)

Let me rephrase: Girlfriend of a dude's wife gets divorced. Gets thrown a divorce party by the gals. The husbands attend and help plan and buy gifts.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with people?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (V150o)

306 The husbands, they call me for directions.

Posted by: Paolo the Poon Hunter at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (JkygK)

307 289 Had Thanksgiving dinner at a Chinese restaurant once. We were in the middle of a move. It's a cherished piece of family lore now.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:59 AM (87EdW)
.........
Were the mashed potatoes any good?
Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 12:01 PM (v0R5T)

What I wanna know, did they really cut the duck's head off at the table????

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 12:05 PM (Kpl3J)

308 274- yep, but if she said it, then a lot of freshmen are saying it privately too (and probably talking to each other). Nancy's in a bind.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 12:05 PM (87EdW)

309 Can you imagine sharing Thanksgiving with the Horde? It would be epic in so many ways.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (TdMsT)
...........

I'll bring the Brussels sprouts.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (v0R5T)

Put Cochran down for carrot based chili!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at November 26, 2019 12:05 PM (BiNEL)

310 She was told what to say, and somebody twisted her arm real good.

This is politics, and there's a lot at stake.

Nice show of somebody who has no inner compass, no principles and no honesty.

Don't recall who said it, but it rings especially true these days, "Those who love freedom do not crave power. Those who crave power do not love freedom."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 12:05 PM (HaL55)

311 Didn't have duck and didn't shoot my eye out, either.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (87EdW)

312 266
Bear with me here.

Maybe Biden is full of shit. I know, hard to imagine, but maybe he's exaggerating just a bit.

Word as a moron. I'm serious here. No, I mean it. I'm serious.

Posted by: MJ at November 26, 2019 11:57 AM (gAMkn)

The facts, minus Biden's bragging, speak for themselves.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (1CjJc)

313 Impeachment is coming. #twoweeks
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (9VeU0)

The trial in the Senate will be glorious, as only a former reality show producer could arrange it. All the BS hearsay witnesses won't be allowed to testify about what they thought, but PDT will be able to put on his defense, starring the Bidens and the whole cast of corrupt characters.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (jK8Z7)

314 296
Imagine blaster having a mini Mo-Mee for T Dinner.
The family would die.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (Vddbf)

Can you imagine sharing Thanksgiving with the Horde? It would be epic in so many ways.
===
I would have to pop two Metformin before chowing down, but it woud be worth the pain and 3 pounds' gain for all the great food, great booze, and great dessert. Plus we could talk about cool stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (W+kMI)

315 NBC News@NBCNews
President Trump has tapped Jared Kushner to oversee construction of his border wall, The Washington Post reports.

-
It's both WaPo AND NBC so you know it's right!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)

316 Can you imagine sharing Thanksgiving with the Horde?

World War II would pale in comparison to the inevitable food fight.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (Boy/L)

317 299 284 Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (V150o)

What's wrong with checking out a new listing that's just been put on the market? There might even be an Open House coming up.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 12:03 PM (Kpl3J)

Terrible phrasing on my part. Girl gets divorced. Other girls and their husbands plan a divorce party, buy gifts, and attend.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:07 PM (V150o)

318 Let me rephrase: Girlfriend of a dude's wife gets divorced. Gets thrown a divorce party by the gals.

The husbands attend and help plan and buy gifts.

Posted by: squirrelly dan

That's fuckin ghey. Sorry.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:07 PM (Vddbf)

319 Because someone is tired of her shit?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:04 PM (Vddbf)

Whenever you see a single woman over the age of 17, some man somewhere is tired of her shit. But you never know, maybe thing's will be different this time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 12:08 PM (Kpl3J)

320 New: Michigan Rep. Brenda Lawrence is clarifying her views on impeachment after a radio interview went viral. She now says she will "continue to support impeachment" despite comments before saying "I don't see the value of taking him out of office"

-
Damned if she do; damned if she don't.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 12:08 PM (+y/Ru)

321 Terrible phrasing on my part. Girl gets divorced. Other girls and their husbands plan a divorce party, buy gifts, and attend.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:07 PM (V150o)

actually your phrasing was fine. I knew what you meant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 12:08 PM (Kpl3J)

322 273 The big question is this: do people who have a lot of money also want others to have it too? Or do they pull up the ladder behind them so others can't have it?

IMHO, that's the difference between self-interest and greed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 11:58 AM (HaL55)

Many not only want to pull up the ladder, but they also want to take away the standard of living those below them scratch out. "We have to make meat unaffordable! We have to make gasoline unaffordable! We have to make electricity unaffordable! The great unwashed don't deserve it!"

Posted by: Allie at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (sm6Pk)

323 Wow. We've reached the point in American history where 80% of black kids don't have a functional family and the white people who ARE married celebrate its end.

Hooray.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (Fk2H6)

324 Does Pence preside over the senate during the trial? If so, does he have the ability to influence the proceedings?

Maybe this sounds crazy, but I do not entirely trust our Republican representation, and I would like to see the president have someone on the inside for a change.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (JkygK)

325 284
Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives
attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (V150o)

If there is naked tickle fighting, I am in. Otherwise, sounds douchey.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (1CjJc)

326 "There are things that we know. Those are easy. Then there are the things that we know that we don't know. We can mostly still deal with those. But it is the unknown unknowns that we have the most trouble with."

-- Donald Rumsfeld

He was laughed at for saying this by the Usual Idiots, but he was wise as well as prescient with this statement.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (S6rpg)

327 It is very difficult to acknowledge your knowledge has limits. Being able to recognize when you are operating on perceived wisdom is beyond most people. Particularly educated sorts

Posted by: Pete Bog at November 26, 2019 11:09 AM (Ltv6g)
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I've been reading Gottlob Frege lately. And the man is amazing. Really his singular place in inspiring analytic philosophy is one of those things that people have cited along with George Boole set us up for computational mathematics.

What he missed in his own mathematical treatment of the logic of statements still awes me to this day. He was a Mathematics professor. In his life, he wrote far more mathematics papers than "philosophy".

Frege cut the Gordian knot in analytical philosophy as well, when he explained that he can't tell you what "truth" is, because any statement that can be made about truth or prior to truth needs a sense it which it is "true".

So the practicality of assigning statements to the value of TheTrue or TheFalse was genius--and as he was a mathematician, he was versed in all sorts of adoptions of non-linear axioms simply to advance the specification of the system.

However, in his two-valued system, he failed to understand that "truth" was an identity function. So Frege created one of the blights on Philosophy called "deflationism".

Frege argued that "is true" was a meaningless statement since "S is true" implies no more than S.

Again, the guy is a mathematician, and he doesn't relate that x + 0 is no more or less than x or that x * 1 is no more or no less than x. That x * 1 = x for all x defines *1 as the multiplicative identity function, it does not make "x * 1" meaningless. But Frege dismissed "S is true" as meaningless.

He was right in intuiting that the "formal definition of True" is circuitous and therefore, in a way fruitless, but he cut a knot too far in discarding "S is true" as having meaning.

Frege tried to "formalize" the logic of statements, but merely displaces the area of ignorance and paves over it, all to appeal to the confidence of knowing.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (YOhRS)

328 I just had thought. Thanksgiving at the Biden house might be a little strained this year.
.........

Yeah, the stress of whether Joe could remember what day it is would be huge.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (v0R5T)

329 "Beautiful words are not truthful. Truthful words are not
beautiful. He who knows has no broad learning. He who has broad learning
does not know."

-La Choy fortune cookie

what is, was. what was, will be. what will be, was, but will be again.

Posted by: Arnold Horshack at November 26, 2019 11:47 AM (sGtp+)

"Anything that happens, happens.

Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.

Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.

It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though."

-Douglass Adams

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (8D42x)

330 There might even be an Open House coming up.

*******

Problem with an Open House is if there's too much traffic the foyer gets cluttered with debris.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 12:10 PM (m45I2)

331 I would have to pop two Metformin before chowing down, but it woud be worth the pain and 3 pounds' gain for all the great food, great booze, and great dessert. Plus we could talk about cool stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (W+kMI

We could all wear our MAGA hats!

Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 12:10 PM (TdMsT)

332 He was laughed at for saying this by the Usual Idiots, but he was wise as well as prescient with this statement.

It makes perfect sense.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2019 12:10 PM (M0u+N)

333 Wow. We've reached the point in American history where 80% of black kids don't have a functional family and the white people who ARE married celebrate its end.

Hooray.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (Fk2H6)
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Because we have a narrative that the success of our culture is "racism" and other badthink.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 12:11 PM (YOhRS)

334 Speaking of tickets on holidays- the last 3 I've gotten (over 30 years) have been on different Holidays- Easter, Independence Day, and Halloween. Wife won't let me drive on any holiday anymore.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 12:11 PM (87EdW)

335
Does Pence preside over the senate during the trial? If so, does he have the ability to influence the proceedings?

The Chief Justice presides at presidential impeachment trials.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 12:11 PM (+Z+gl)

336 326 "There are things that we know. Those are easy. Then there are the things that we know that we don't know. We can mostly still deal with those. But it is the unknown unknowns that we have the most trouble with."

-- Donald Rumsfeld

Damn, guess I heard it put differnt.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 12:12 PM (JkygK)

337 303 If the Dems vote a bill and send it to the Senate to die, they can blame the Republicans for being part of the Trump cult.

If they can't get it together, or can't vote it out of the House, then they are the ones letting Trump off the hook.

Impeachment is coming. #twoweeks
======
Donaldus Maximus already told 'em to crap or get off the pot. They've got nothing to vote on though, and the Wicked Witch of the West Coast knows it. No vote before Xmas vote = Dems deader than Elvis in 2020. Useless vote on a nothingburger before Xmas = Republican Senate slam, Donaldus gloats, and 2020 is a Dem rout like the end of Helm's Deep.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 12:12 PM (W+kMI)

338 318 Let me rephrase: Girlfriend of a dude's wife gets divorced. Gets thrown a divorce party by the gals.

The husbands attend and help plan and buy gifts.

Posted by: squirrelly dan

That's fuckin ghey. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:07 PM (Vddbf)

I agree, double ghey. I read a thread on the OT board of Tigerdroppings where some husband asked the board what he should get as a gift for his wife's girlfriend's divorce party and venue place,
He was justifiably getting crushed by most of the board.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:12 PM (V150o)

339 284 Anybody heard of divorce parties for women?
..........

I think they call them "Tupperware" parties. Lots of strange things to experiment with.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 12:13 PM (v0R5T)

340 Pretty sure LG is gay and they are threatening to out him. Given the current climate I don't think he gives two fucks anymore.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (prSvo)

Personally, I don't care if Graham is gay. Or isn't. The idea that if someone never got married, they MUST be gay is silly. Considering how many morons are on here lamenting they should never have gotten married, because they wouldn't have gotten divorced and dragged through the financial and child support ringer, maybe Lindsey was smarter than that.
He has said with his career , he just didn't have time to get involved with someone. At his age, why get involved with someone when he has lived his entire life the way he wants to live it? And if he is gay, possible he decided his faith dictates he not live the gay lifestyle( Graham attends a Baptist church regularly) . If that is the case, he is to be commended.

That is what the libs ignore about Christians. Whatever your personal life, demons, etc. as long as you live according to God's will, those personal affects mean nothing. Christians do not have problems with people who are gay, they have problems with people living out a gay lifestyle. Just like people who don't take marriage vows seriously, lie, cheat, steal, covet, etc. Personal behavior decisions are what Christians judge people on, not their skin color, sex, etc.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 26, 2019 12:13 PM (LLDY8)

341 He was laughed at for saying this by the Usual Idiots, but he was wise as well as prescient with this statement.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (S6rpg)

If Gaylord ever articulated anything this cogent they'd have all masturbated themselves to death.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

342 I just had thought. Thanksgiving at the Biden house might be a little strained this year.
Posted by: WisRich

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"Can I has the stuffing?"

"Hunter's already stuffed everything in sight."

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2019 12:13 PM (Y4EXg)

343 Again, the guy is a mathematician, and he doesn't relate that x + 0 is no more or less than x or that x * 1 is no more or no less than x. That x * 1 = x for all x defines *1 as the multiplicative identity function, it does not make "x * 1" meaningless. But Frege dismissed "S is true" as meaningless.

He was right in intuiting that the "formal definition of True" is circuitous and therefore, in a way fruitless, but he cut a knot too far in discarding "S is true" as having meaning.

***********

I have heard that if you mentally masturbate too much you will grow hair on your cerebral cortex.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 12:14 PM (m45I2)

344 Speaking of tickets on holidays- the last 3 I've gotten (over 30 years) have been on different Holidays- Easter, Independence Day, and Halloween. Wife won't let me drive on any holiday anymore.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 12:11 PM (87EdW)

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Turns out it's a LOT easier to meet that "enforce the law" public interaction quota by comfortably sitting on the side of the road behind a bridge and pulling over people who are safely traveling 10 over in a group than it is patrolling and stopping tailgaters and people who are travelling at an abnormal speed and weaving in and out of surrounding traffic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 26, 2019 12:14 PM (Fk2H6)

345 I agree, double ghey. I read a thread on the OT board of Tigerdroppings where some husband asked the board what he should get as a gift for his wife's girlfriend's divorce party and venue place,
He was justifiably getting crushed by most of the board.
Posted by: squirrelly dan

Seriously. Dude, you buy the guy a fishing rod and take him to Buffalo Wild Wings for beer & wings.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:14 PM (Vddbf)

346 320
New: Michigan Rep. Brenda Lawrence is clarifying her views on
impeachment after a radio interview went viral. She now says she will
"continue to support impeachment" despite comments before saying "I
don't see the value of taking him out of office"

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Damned if she do; damned if she don't.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 12:08 PM (+y/Ru)

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Moral cowardice is not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: ShainS at November 26, 2019 12:14 PM (WqPYg)

347 The ticket I got in SC in 1999 on 7/4 was total b.s. speed trap. Limit dropped 20 mph without warning and trooper pulled me out of line of traffic. Think it was because I had out of state tags. I won't gas up or stay in SC- used to pass through at least 2x a year. Don't know if I'm even get.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 12:14 PM (87EdW)

348 "There are things that we know. Those are easy. Then there are the things that we know that we don't know. We can mostly still deal with those. But it is the unknown unknowns that we have the most trouble with."

-- Donald Rumsfeld

Events, dear boy, events.

-- Harold Macmillan

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 12:14 PM (mpeBU)

349 >>Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wivesattending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?

Sounds like an excuse for women to get together, consume 'lots of wine, and then b#tch about how awful men are.

Yeah, faggitry.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 12:15 PM (bDqIh)

350 I don't like stuffing.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at November 26, 2019 12:15 PM (vtcmf)

351 I have heard that if you mentally masturbate too much you will grow hair on your cerebral cortex.

gross.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2019 12:16 PM (M0u+N)

352 Sounds like an excuse for women to get together, consume 'lots of wine, and then b#tch about how awful men are.

Yeah, faggitry.
Posted by: Lizzy

That's fine and expected. It the cucks attending that weird.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:16 PM (Vddbf)

353 He was right in intuiting that the "formal definition of True" is circuitous and therefore, in a way fruitless, but he cut a knot too far in discarding "S is true" as having meaning.

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I watched a cartoon with my daughter once where a character made his calculator explode when he tried to divide by zero.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 26, 2019 12:16 PM (Fk2H6)

354 341
He was laughed at for saying this by the Usual Idiots, but he was wise as well as prescient with this statement.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 26, 2019 12:09 PM (S6rpg)

If Gaylord ever articulated anything this cogent they'd have all masturbated themselves to death.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

Threadwinner.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 12:16 PM (1CjJc)

355 I have heard that if you mentally masturbate too much you will grow hair on your cerebral cortex.

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Can I do it until I just get smart?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 26, 2019 12:17 PM (Fk2H6)

356 Anybody heard of divorce parties for women? What about husbands of wives attending them? And I'm wrong to label this as absolute faggitry?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:00 PM (V150o)

i had a re-bachelor party when i got divorced.

it was just me and a couple buddies getting drinks at the bar, but since the ex quashed the bachelor party, i liked the sound of it.

but a divorce party sounds like a metric fuck ton of faggotry.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 12:18 PM (8D42x)

357 Don't recall who said it, but it rings especially
true these days, "Those who love freedom do not crave power. Those who
crave power do not love freedom."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 26, 2019 12:05 PM (HaL55)

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A favorite quote of mine along those lines (first saw it in Reader's Digest when I was just a lad and have never forgotten it):

"The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves." -- William Hazlitt

Posted by: ShainS at November 26, 2019 12:18 PM (WqPYg)

358 Can I do it until I just get smart?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

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Oh Max!

Posted by: Agent 99 at November 26, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

359 352 Sounds like an excuse for women to get together, consume 'lots of wine, and then b#tch about how awful men are.

Yeah, faggitry.
Posted by: Lizzy

That's fine and expected. It the cucks attending that weird.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 12:16 PM (Vddbf)

The cucks are buying seperate gifts.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (Rw8Ov)

360 Nood

Posted by: Agent 99 at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (Y4EXg)

361 332 He was laughed at for saying this by the Usual Idiots, but he was wise as well as prescient with this statement.

It makes perfect sense.
Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2019 12:10 PM (M0u+N)

Nicholas Taleb, in "The Black Swan", spent much of that book expounding on that idea. His primary theme was that huge, world changing events happen fairly often; but the most profound ones are those that nobody could have imagined happening (except for a few) until after they happened.

We don't know what we don't know, as Rumsfeld said; and Taleb added, THOSE are the things that change the world in the most dramatic ways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (Kpl3J)

362 >>That is what the libs ignore about Christians. Whatever your personal
life, demons, etc. as long as you live according to God's will, those
personal affects mean nothing. Christians do not have problems with
people who are gay, they have problems with people living out a gay
lifestyle. Just like people who don't take marriage vows seriously, lie,
cheat, steal, covet, etc. Personal behavior decisions are what
Christians judge people on, not their skin color, sex, etc.

What they know about Christians they learned form tv and movies, which means all Christians are a caricature: white, stupid, bigoted, loud-mouthed, incredibly judgemental to the point of hateful, and secretly hiding their own twisted perversions behind their religiosity.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (bDqIh)

363 a divorce party is for the cucked. also it reeks of left wing asshattery.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (KP5rU)

364 We could all wear our MAGA hats!
Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 12:10 PM (TdMsT)

MAGA HATS ????

In Chicago?

Posted by: Dave Chappelle at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (LPnfS)

365 Terrible phrasing on my part. Girl gets divorced. Other girls and their husbands plan a divorce party, buy gifts, and attend.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:07 PM (V150o)
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We have oversold personal liberty and self-actualization.

My answer to Brietbart's "If you can't sell Liberty, you suck" comment is why would I have to sell liberty? And why if you arrive at a state that can be described as having failed to sell it, must I assent to its ultimate universality?

Doesn't the idea that someone has to sell liberty to non-liberty buyers suggest that it's not as imminent-domain as must then be an article of faith?

Besides, people who don't buy liberty are themselves participating in their liberty to not buy liberty. This is what the idea of liberty allows. It also allows the idea of my liberty is good and should be promoted and your liberty is bad and should be curtailed.

And in real-world terms, nobody has liberty unless there is an enforcer that reins in liberty. The founders wanted to "secure the blessings of liberty", and I have often argued that does not make liberty an inherent good in itself.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (YOhRS)

366 331 I would have to pop two Metformin before chowing down, but it woud be worth the pain and 3 pounds' gain for all the great food, great booze, and great dessert. Plus we could talk about cool stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 12:06 PM (W+kMI

We could all wear our MAGA hats!
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Should wear Pilgrims and Indians hats and bonnets like grade school to teach the kids something. Stoopid progtards, take the one actual event of non-agenda good relations between Colonials and Indians and say it didn't happen! Teachable moment of "the ideal not followed" discarded in favor of "white man bad". Screw them!

Posted by: exdem13 at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (W+kMI)

367 >>The cucks are buying seperate gifts.

Gifts??? You buy gifts for the newly divorced, like an anti-wedding?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 12:20 PM (bDqIh)

368 Rain in Arizona is no joke; not only do we have flash floods as a result, but the drivers also use the slightest hint of moisture on the road as the go signal to immediately crash into the nearest light pole/storefront/pedestrian. Speaking for Tucson, of course, the Berkeley of the desert.

Posted by: Pitts at November 26, 2019 12:21 PM (RG/Kz)

369 And in real-world terms, nobody has liberty unless there is an enforcer that reins in liberty. The founders wanted to "secure the blessings of liberty", and I have often argued that does not make liberty an inherent good in itself.
Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (YOhRS)

It's like Medicine. Life in the right quantity, ineffective if you don't have enough, and a poison if you have too much.

Liberty unmoored from a culture of personal responsibility is like an iceberg drifting into your shipping lanes, a disaster waiting to happen.

The difference between a libertarian and a libertine is often lost on the Libertarian Party, but profound.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 26, 2019 12:23 PM (J+mig)

370 When I first got my doctorate 20 years ago, I was visiting over at my parent's house when one of my mother's friends dropped by. I hadn't seen her in awhile, and she asked, "How are you, Mr. Farmer?" My mother immediately corrected her- "He's Doctor Farmer now, but not the kind that helps people." Never cared to be called Doctor- feels presumptuous.
Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 11:48 AM (87EdW)

MD - money doctor
Ph.D. - phony doctor

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2019 12:24 PM (jpBkc)

371 Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 12:19 PM (YOhRS)

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Good comment. As much as I love liberty and want it for all (but most apparently don't want it for themselves), I've often thought we're all slaves to something usually self-imposed, and it's what we choose to be slaves to that makes all the difference (e.g. principles, self-reliance, family, etc. -- or their opposites).

Posted by: ShainS at November 26, 2019 12:24 PM (WqPYg)

372 Pretty sure LG is gay and they are threatening to out him. Given the current climate I don't think he gives two fucks anymore.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 11:18 AM (prSvo)
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Really, what damage could it do? They created the culture in which gay is totally ok. Sure there's the hypocrite thing--but that would be only if he had personally opposed gay stuff. And to what I know, he has not.

So "hypocrisy" would simply be not getting on the social revolution train and living your own life?

That's the crap that people are rejecting from SJWs. I really think this would go badly for any liberal who tried to out Graham.

Meanwhile, Graham is probably right to realize that there are bigger jeaopardies in play now.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 12:25 PM (YOhRS)

373 New: Michigan Rep. Brenda Lawrence is clarifying her views on impeachment after a radio interview went viral. She now says she will "continue to support impeachment" despite comments before saying "I don't see the value of taking him out of office"

So her constituents are against it but her pay masters are demanding it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 12:26 PM (vN4+Q)

374 367 >>The cucks are buying seperate gifts.

Gifts??? You buy gifts for the newly divorced, like an anti-wedding?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 12:20 PM (bDqIh)

I guess. That was the dude's reason for starting the thread was for gift ideas for his wife's girlfriend's divorce party. (Secondary was validation about the venue for the party).
It went over about how you would expect.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 12:27 PM (V150o)

375 27 I'll be darned. It's "hare-brained" and not "hair-brained".

Always learning from CBD.
Posted by: creeper at November 26, 2019 11:10 AM (fE1wp)

Yep. Just refreshed my knowledge on Chesterson's Fence and the Overton Window.

Now I am more edumacated.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at November 26, 2019 12:29 PM (scc3j)

376 "I've often thought we're all slaves to something
usually self-imposed, and it's what we choose to be slaves to that makes
all the difference (e.g. principles, self-reliance, family, etc. -- or
their opposites)."Posted by: ShainS

Being a doulos ("slave") for the Lord ... is a phrase from the Bible. But it is a free will choice, and in lifestyle a minute by minute choice. When it comes to governments "securing the blessings of liberty", it is about forming a (necessary evil?) government to protect the God given rights (liberties) of the individual from the invading hordes (or anti-liberty governments and globalist cabals).

"in real-world terms, nobody has liberty unless there is an enforcer that reins in liberty."

Government (ideally, constitutionally) reins in those that would steal personal liberties from others. Statue of Liberty shines as an example to the world of how to do that. "Liberty" is inherently good imo, but it is limited to liberty to do a greater good, a higher calling. The free will choice to do evil is a bad choice, but a good part of "Liberty".

"Liberty" is not reined in by (good, constitutional) government, crime is punished. But the liberty to commit crime remains. And that is good. But culturally, people should be raised to be self reliant, serving a higher calling, seeking a "greater good" (by personal choice, not government mandate).

Posted by: illiniwek at November 26, 2019 12:54 PM (Cus5s)

377 So...maybe Epstein DID kill himself?

Posted by: Kasper at November 26, 2019 01:08 PM (d3k/b)

378 Liberty" is not reined in by (good, constitutional) government, crime is punished. But the liberty to commit crime remains. And that is good. But culturally, people should be raised to be self reliant, serving a higher calling, seeking a "greater good" (by personal choice, not government mandate).
Posted by: illiniwek at November 26, 2019 12:54 PM (Cus5s)
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Actually, in my normal pattern of thinking what I called "liberty" because I was using the word, is normally what I call "freedom". I just had been using "liberty" ala Breitbart, so it was in context.

In my terminology, I actually use "liberty" to describe freedom after adjustment for criminal actions.

However, the government is force. There is no law without enforcement. "Crimes" describe those classes of actions ruled as punishable by the center of orchestrated force, the State. IMO it removes a functional view of freedom to say that "nobody has the freedom to commit crimes" because unless a body defines and enforces those crimes, everybody does.

The mental short-cutting is fine, in most cases. But actually prevents a functional bone and sinew understanding of what exactly "freedom" is. We must restrict the full range of actions of which somebody engages in because 1) they are capable and 2) they want something accomplished through that action.

This in this scheme, adjusted freedom is "civil liberty".

In the view of Ignorance, it's important to think of what something is before we classify "good" and "bad" implications of that thing. Government is the agreement of force to stop somebody using the full range of actions they are capable of. It suffers from the same ignorance as we do in general, however, the whole purpose is that there is force behind it so stakes are definitely raised.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 01:23 PM (YOhRS)

379 Re-gifting!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 26, 2019 01:30 PM (Dh1wo)

380 "Government is the agreement of force to stop somebody using the full
range of actions they are capable of. It suffers from the same ignorance
as we do in general, however, the whole purpose is that there is force
behind it so stakes are definitely raised."

Sure, government force is the necessary power in an evil world, to counter the power of (often evil) more malign groups, foreign and domestic. The founders' attempt to restrict government (Bill of Rights) was admirable, not perfect.

But the concept of a government protecting individual sovereignty is righteous, and "Liberty" itself ... the right to choose ... is (imo) always a good thing. The alternative is control by an owner class, raw power. Even in evil governments, choice is there I suppose, but not in a practical way, not in a way that makes a prosperous nation of liberty. (though righteous Joseph made Egypt prosper, on his way to a higher calling, no thanks to his brothers)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (Cus5s)

381 to 58

"I'm here at home, trying to get up the gumption to shovel the two
plus feet of snow off my driveway so that I can maybe get to work.

Cardiologist told me that no one over 40 should shovel snow."
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Your cardilogist is only saying that so he can get ofshoveling his own driveway. Who's kidding whom ?

Posted by: Allears at November 26, 2019 06:50 PM (9+J4d)

382 RSBN Trump Rally from Sunrise, Florida-
https://tinyurl.com/rx85pot

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