Luxury without the guilt [KT]

Happy Weekend before Thanksgiving! Got anything luxurious planned for the holidays? Hope you don't feel guilty about a little luxury. Maybe some nice little tradition, maybe something new? Because "luxury beliefs" are not a good substitute.

Luxury Beliefs

Rob Henderson in Quillette:

I was bewildered when I encountered a new social class at Yale four years ago: the luxury belief class. My confusion wasn't surprising given my unusual background. When I was two years old, my mother was addicted to drugs and my father abandoned us. I grew up in multiple foster homes, was then adopted into a series of broken homes, and then experienced a series of family tragedies. Later, after a few years in the military, I went to Yale on the GI Bill. On campus, I realized that luxury beliefs have become fashionable status symbols. Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the rich at very little cost, while taking a toll on the lower class.
In the past, people displayed their membership of the upper class with their material accoutrements. But today, luxury goods are more affordable than before. And people are less likely to receive validation for the material items they display. This is a problem for the affluent, who still want to broadcast their high social position. But they have come up with a clever solution. The affluent have decoupled social status from goods, and re-attached it to beliefs.

The economist and social theorist Thomas Sowell once said that activism is "a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole." The same could be said for luxury beliefs. . . . A rich person flaunts her new belief. It then becomes fashionable among her peers, so she abandons it. Then a new stylish belief arises, while the old luxury belief trickles down the social hierarchy and wreaks havoc.

David Thompson has some further quotes in a post entitled, You Can't Afford My Radical Life. A sample:

Advocating for open borders and drug experimentation are good ways of advertising your membership of the elite because, thanks to your wealth and social connections, they will cost you less than me.
Unfortunately, the luxury beliefs of the upper class often trickle down and are adopted by people lower down the food chain, which means many of these beliefs end up causing social harm.
Take polyamory. I had a revealing conversation recently with a student at an elite university. He said that when he sets his Tinder radius to five miles, about half of the women, mostly other students, said they were "polyamorous" in their bios. Then, when he extended the radius to 15 miles to include the rest of the city and its outskirts, about half of the women were single mothers. The costs created by the luxury beliefs of the former are borne by the latter. Polyamory is the latest expression of sexual freedom championed by the affluent. They are in a better position to manage the complications of novel relationship arrangements. And if these relationships don't work out, they can recover thanks to their financial capability and social capital. The less fortunate suffer by adopting the beliefs of the upper class.

There are links to other posts on related themes.

There is a relationship here to the work of Charles Murray in Coming Apart. About the Quillette piece on Luxury Beliefs, he wrote:

My daughter's immigrant friend, asked during her dissertation defense why she had not dealt with the Marxist interpretation of her topic:
"I grew up in Eastern Europe during the Cold War. I do not indulge in recreational Marxism."

"Recreational Marxism." Heh.

Rob Henderson recognizes Murray's work:

Children living with both biological parents
Affluent families in 1960: 95%
Working class families in 1960: 95%
Affluent families in 2005: 85%
Working class families in 2005: 30%

Music

A little Eastern European music. Franz Liszt was a Hungarian nationalist who lived outside of Hungary for most of his life. Made his living mostly as a pianist until he was persuaded to spend more time composing. Lived with women he wasn't married to and had some kids, but they seem to have been taken care of, not by him, necessarily. Considered the priesthood from time to time.

Video made using Blender.

Hope you have a nice weekend. With a little luxury. Maybe not after the style of Liszt.

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1 Hello?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at November 23, 2019 11:33 AM (szD6V)

2 Hello

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at November 23, 2019 11:33 AM (szD6V)

3 Is it me you're lookin' for?

Posted by: Cardinal Eris (weapons: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope) at November 23, 2019 11:34 AM (Dc2NZ)

4 Wonderful post KT! So true. We were in Eastern Europe a couple months ago and that's the prevailing attitude there. Communism just ended there 30 years ago, due in large part to Reagan. They look back and shudder. They never want a part of that again. It was so nice to be among a very warm people who felt the same as we do. Not so true for me in my home of SoCal. How about that?!?

Posted by: keena at November 23, 2019 11:34 AM (RiTnx)

5 The video of the Hungarian Rhapsody is mesmerizing and cool.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 23, 2019 11:35 AM (aS1PU)

6 Hypno-Miklos!

Posted by: Cardinal Eris (weapons: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope) at November 23, 2019 11:35 AM (Dc2NZ)

7 We've come to a pretty pass when a college degree has been turned into a marker of negative worth.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at November 23, 2019 11:36 AM (szD6V)

8 luxury beliefs - Myiq at crawdadhole linked that article earlier this week.- really good insight into the vicious cycle of virtue signalling

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 11:37 AM (G546f)

9 After a very long time, i now must get eyeglasses. Anyone have any experience with online eyeglasses? Recommendations? Where not to go? Any help is appreciated.

Posted by: Agitator at November 23, 2019 11:38 AM (VP1T8)

10 I'm sure a high number of Hollywood writers come out of rich families, because they could afford to crank out screenplays and have endless rejections (which is typical I think) and endure that for years.

Watchmen is a great graphic novel, but the author seems to miss that an alternate history where a blue god wins the Vietnam war will kill fewer people, 2 million less than an American abandon. This fact might occur to Ozymandias or Night Owl, but so awful to Alan Moore that he can't deal with it. Fiction is strange.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 23, 2019 11:40 AM (LxTcq)

11 Who's my daddy?

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at November 23, 2019 11:42 AM (EgshT)

12 The most important financial decision one can make is in the choice of spouse.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 23, 2019 11:43 AM (Uu+Jp)

13 I watched the Amazon version of "The Last Tycoon" recently. It's something of a travesty, compared to Fitzgerald's work.

Lots of pretty glitz, with actresses getting themselves into all sorts of situations that never smudge their makeup...

It strikes me how often we see these movies/teevee shows from the bygone eras, they love to show luxury, but if imagine these productions to be anything like real life, then you come to the conclusion that everyone of that time period was either a rich fatcat, or a bum living in squalor. There was no middle ground.

Oh, and sex? Nobody ever gets pregnant from sex. What a luxury!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:43 AM (hku12)

14 Here you all are.

Fine. Don't call Nood. Just fine.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 11:44 AM (MVjcR)

15 Is it me you're lookin' for?
Posted by: Cardinal Eris (weapons: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope) at November 23, 2019 11:34 AM

Things that make me LOL in the barbershop and attract odd looks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2019 11:44 AM (0bQmo)

16 The most important financial decision one can make is in the choice of spouse.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 23, 2019 11:43 AM (Uu+Jp)

Choose rich parents first. That helps.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:45 AM (hku12)

17 Alabama is about to play their pre-Iron Bowl bums. This is normally an uninteresting game but considering Tua is out for the season, we will get a really good look at Mac Jones, 5star QB recruit. Alabama is still in the hunt for the playoffs, based on their record, but we will fail the "eye test" without Tua unless Mac steps up and shows that he really was a contender for the starting spot. Steve Sarkisian better let Mac run the whole offense, win or lose. None of this reduced playlist crap. It's Jones' time to step up and use that receiving corps he has.

Anyways, Roll Tide, Roll!

Posted by: Grump928(C)
Native Texan and Alabama Alumn
Twice as Smug as You
at November 23, 2019 11:46 AM (yQpMk)

18 Fine. Don't call Nood. Just fine.
Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 11:44 AM

*sigh*

Nood.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2019 11:47 AM (0bQmo)

19 "Want to enter the bubble?"

Yes, please.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 11:47 AM (t+qrx)

20 9 After a very long time, i now must get eyeglasses. Anyone have any experience with online eyeglasses? Recommendations? Where not to go? Any help is appreciated.
Posted by: Agitator at November 23, 2019 11:38 AM (VP1T

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The online places are cheaper than the stores, naturally. I've heard good things about the club stores like BJs and Costco but have not used them. I have used a couple of the online places (GlassesUSA?) and if you insist they honor the advertised prices they're OK. Kind of a racket with all the crap they try and add on to double the price.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 11:48 AM (MVjcR)

21 Who's my daddy?
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby a

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KHOOOOOOH KHOOOOOH ..not me, you bastard.

Posted by: Darth Vader at November 23, 2019 11:48 AM (Rpm7S)

22 They look back and shudder.

It's getting trendy among Portland "progressives" to announce that they are Communists. (Soviet flags are regularly flown at Portland Antifa events.)

The Portland metro area has tens of thousands of people who've lived under actual Communism - the Soviet Union, Vietnam, China.

It never occurs to the trendies to ask these people what actual Communism was like.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2019 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

23 I remember catching a snippet of some Late Night news segment just a day or 2 after the DOMA was overturned so gay marriage was a done deal they were championing trans-gender rights. I was horrified that they were going to make school years even more turbulent just because they needed a new issue but had no idea at that time how many young lives they would ruin with the chemical/hormone stews to suppress biology when KIDS said they thought they were 'trans.' Its as barbaric as the ancient Romans and then the middle age Sultans castrating little boys to create eunuch's IMO.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 23, 2019 11:48 AM (n4y+3)

24 Tangentially, Lizzy Warren being harassed by protestors at Clark University, Atlanta, as reported by the DM:

"The demonstrators were only silenced after freshman Rep. Ayanna Pressley, ..., came on stage to try and tame them"

Animals I tell ya they're just animals.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 11:49 AM (Gqta/)

25
19 "Want to enter the bubble?"

Yes, please.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 11:47 AM (t+qrx)
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YOU CANT HANDLE THE BUBBLE!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 11:49 AM (MVjcR)

26 Oh, and sex? Nobody ever gets pregnant from sex. What a luxury!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:43 AM (hku12)

I just finished a book of "lost" short stories by Fitzgerald, and one of the reasons the works were unpublished is that people did get pregnant from sex.

Posted by: CN at November 23, 2019 11:49 AM (U7k5w)

27 "Want to enter the bubble?"
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Yes, please.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 11:47 AM (t+qrx)

No thanks. Have a thought for the poor hispanic maids who have to worry about getting the bends every time they go to work.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)

28 Grump I think we are getting brother of Tua today

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 23, 2019 11:51 AM (PUmDY)

29 Indian Princesses upset black people.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 23, 2019 11:51 AM (rpZ5G)

30 there is also a good comment on the quilette article by "dcl" with some anecdata

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 11:51 AM (G546f)

31 Agitator - depends if you need eyeglasses in general, but if you just need to read get the cheapies off the rack at any store. I have about ten $1 glasses stashed around the house.
Otherwise find the style you like and see if you can find them online, generally cheaper than the retail stores.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2019 11:51 AM (r+sAi)

32 "Impromptu" is a fun movie about Liszt and his pals, with Hugh Grant as Chopin, Judy Davis as George Sand, and Julian Sands as Liszt.

Liszt was Wagner's father-in-law, btw.

Posted by: sal at November 23, 2019 11:52 AM (bo8pf)

33 Oh, and sex? Nobody ever gets pregnant from sex. What a luxury!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:43 AM (hku12)

I just finished a book of "lost" short stories by Fitzgerald, and one of the reasons the works were unpublished is that people did get pregnant from sex.
Posted by: CN at November 23, 2019 11:49 AM (U7k5w)

I have kind of neglected Fitzgerald, although I was quite struck by "Gatsby" when I read it. Heartbreaking.

The guy could write, and yet he seems like such an enigma. He had no business being in Hollowwood, other than a guy's gotta eat. And drink, apparently.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

34 We've come to a pretty pass when a college degree has been turned into a marker of negative worth.

In the words of Iowahawk, what you major in is a lot more important than what school you go to.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2019 11:52 AM (I2/tG)

35 http://bit.ly/2ObQFpc
*******
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Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 11:53 AM (BqBId)

36 I have used a couple of the online places (GlassesUSA?) and if you insist they honor the advertised prices they're OK. Kind of a racket with all the crap they try and add on to double the price.
Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 11:48 AM (MVjcR)

Seconding GlassesUSA and Zenni, which can be as reasonably-priced as you choose. Make sure you deselect all the default coatings and choose cheap frames. Or, pick nice frames and whatever lenses you want, and it's still probably cheaper than a store.

Be sure to get your IPD or PD measurement noted on your prescription, when you get an exam. You'll need it for the online order and they don't always include it if you don't get fitted for frames at the shop.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 11:53 AM (t+qrx)

37 Alabama is about to play their pre-Iron Bowl bums. This is normally an uninteresting game but considering Tua is out for the season, we will get a really good look at Mac Jones, 5star QB recruit. Alabama is still in the hunt for the playoffs, based on their record, but we will fail the "eye test" without Tua unless Mac steps up and shows that he really was a contender for the starting spot. Steve Sarkisian better let Mac run the whole offense, win or lose. None of this reduced playlist crap. It's Jones' time to step up and use that receiving corps he has.

Anyways, Roll Tide, Roll!
Posted by: Grump928(C)
Native Texan and Alabama Alumn
Twice as Smug as You
at November 23, 2019 11:46 AM (yQpMk)

Clemson beat Wofford 59-14.....Wofford beat W.Carolina 59-7....Bama should score 75+

Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2019 11:53 AM (X/Pw5)

38 "Recreational Marxism" hits the nail on the head.

I noticed in the replies to Murray's post, a lot of people are knocking the young lady for delivering a one-liner rather than actually engaging with Marxism as an academic theory. Which to a point is fair; if you're going to make a career in academia, Marxist or quasi-Marxist interpretations of X are so ingrained you're going to have to deal with it sooner or later. But what those people are missing is the fact that Marxism is a pose for anyone in higher ed who does mouth its platitudes.

Your sociology professor who confidently expresses the "Marxist interpretation of housing" isn't a proletarian; he makes up to $100,000+ if he's tenured and most likely lives in a gated neighborhood. They don't take it seriously, any more than the lady giving her dissertation does. Subscribing to it is a marker of noblesse oblige, nothing more.

Nothing has changed since the days of Radical Chic.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 23, 2019 11:54 AM (2PXwn)

39 Grump I think we are getting brother of Tua today
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 23, 2019 11:51 AM (PUmDY)

I had Tua for lunch the other day. Not bad. I usually go for the chicken salad though.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:54 AM (hku12)

40 Reckon it's time for cup of coffee # dos.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 11:54 AM (MVjcR)

41 But what those people are missing is the fact that Marxism is a pose for anyone in higher ed who does mouth its platitudes.

It was a standard joke during the late Cold War that the only Marxists left were in Western universities.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2019 11:56 AM (I2/tG)

42 KTY and hubby both did zenni glasses and both had to send back to get it redone, which you can do once, otherwise you just get a 50% discount.

For a first pair ever I'd go to an in person glasses place

Costco is generally ok (they can't handle my prescription because it's too high though)

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 11:56 AM (G546f)

43 http://bit.ly/2ObQFpc
*******
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Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 11:53 AM (BqBId)

I know it gets said a lot, but it's possible this time the fit is gonna hit the shan.

Amazing seeing Biden threaten Lindsay Graham yesterday. Almost reminded me of the silly "Untouchables" scene where DeNiro's Capone realizes the jig is up, after Ness has them switch juries.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (hku12)

44 Reckon it's time for cup of coffee # dos.
Posted by: Weasel

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Cup dos? Wow, I'm on pot dos.

Just back from the gun shop. I did pick up that CZ 75. A very merry Christmas to me.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (Y4EXg)

45 Maybe cosmologists haven't figured out what dark energy is yet because they never viewed it from a Marxist perspective.

Posted by: FireHorse at November 23, 2019 11:58 AM (aTOTz)

46 Maybe cosmologists haven't figured out what dark energy is yet because they never viewed it from a Marxist perspective.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 23, 2019 11:58 AM (aTOTz)
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The Labor Theory of Dark Energy? Hmmmm...

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 23, 2019 11:59 AM (3Z6pZ)

47 Just back from the gun shop. I did pick up that CZ 75. A very merry Christmas to me.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (Y4EXg)

'grats. I want to like the CZ75, but I always feel like the slide is too small for the frame.

It's a very nice gun though.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 12:00 PM (t+qrx)

48 Is anyone else a big Janelle Monae fan?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 23, 2019 12:00 PM (PUmDY)

49 Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (hku12)
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Well PDT said I caught them all, I caught the swamp

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:01 PM (BqBId)

50 Maybe cosmologists haven't figured out what dark energy is yet because they never viewed it from a Marxist perspective.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 23, 2019 11:58 AM (aTOTz)

Looking out my window, the mountain in the distance is being covered, lower and lower each day, with snow.

Think I'm going to have to go back and see how Marx explains this, because I just can't understand it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:02 PM (hku12)

51 The bigger the better.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 12:02 PM (Gqta/)

52 a lot of people are knocking the young lady for delivering a one-liner rather than actually engaging with Marxism as an academic theory.

Why 'engage'? She sliced like a hammer.

Posted by: t-bird at November 23, 2019 12:03 PM (CMq2e)

53 Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (hku12)
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Well PDT said I caught them all, I caught the swamp
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:01 PM (BqBId)

I prolly shouldn't say this too loudly around here, but I don't really pay any attention to what Trump says.

He's doing an important job.

He's still a goofball who says lots of dumb things.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:03 PM (hku12)

54 KTY and hubby both did zenni glasses and both had to send back to get it redone, which you can do once, otherwise you just get a 50% discount.
Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 11:56 AM (G546f)

I've never had any problem with them, but I have a very light prescription (so far). It's been between -2 and -3 for at least 10 years with a tiny bit of astigmatism.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 12:04 PM (t+qrx)

55 'grats. I want to like the CZ75, but I always feel like the slide is too small for the frame.

It's a very nice gun though.
Posted by: hogmartin

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Yeah, the internal rails do make the slide ride low.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 12:04 PM (Y4EXg)

56 Well PDT said I caught them all, I caught the swamp
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:01 PM (BqBId)

He's gonna need a bigger boat.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 12:05 PM (Gqta/)

57
Cup dos? Wow, I'm on pot dos.

Just back from the gun shop. I did pick up that CZ 75. A very merry Christmas to me.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (Y4EXg)
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I know, right? The hell is wrong with me?

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 12:05 PM (MVjcR)

58 Maybe cosmologists haven't figured out what dark energy is yet because they never viewed it from a Marxist perspective.

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They can't help it. It's deeply ingrained in their makeup.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:05 PM (825RR)

59 After a very long time, i now must get eyeglasses. Anyone have any experience with online eyeglasses? Recommendations? Where not to go? Any help is appreciated.
Posted by: Agitator at November 23, 2019 11:38 AM (VP1T

Problem with online eyeglasses is that if your internet connection goes down, you are stuck with looking at what's in your browser cache.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:06 PM (/sgva)

60 KT

I love that video of Franz Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody #2. Thanks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 23, 2019 12:07 PM (u82oZ)

61 Wow, this is a great post. Good job, KT. There's enough content here to keep me busy through lunch.

And while I'm not a huge fan of Liszt (a little too modern and complicated for my pedestrian taste), this is a good piece. I love abstract visual accompaniment to classical music, and I've never seen one like this, this is fascinating.

Posted by: Pastafarian at November 23, 2019 12:07 PM (sgHEm)

62 Problem with online eyeglasses is that if your internet connection goes down, you are stuck with looking at what's in your browser cache.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:06 PM (/sgva)

hahahah!

Wait. What?

Posted by: Eric Clapton at November 23, 2019 12:07 PM (XVuno)

63 Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:03 PM (hku12)
******
That's fine, But he wouldn't say that if it weren't true

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (BqBId)

64 Clemson beat Wofford 59-14.....Wofford beat W.Carolina 59-7....Bama should score 75+

The 3-8 "Catamounts" have held Bama scoreless for a minute and a half already.

Posted by: t-bird at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (elfAG)

65 It would be great staying in a hotel room where you could lie on the bed and watch fish. Really great.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (XVuno)

66 KT

The luxury belief class is also an important mechanism of societal decay. Thank you for the cogent links that sum up what I have seen.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (u82oZ)

67 My favorite Hungarian Rhapsody video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqGEeymMzQM

(Bugs Bunny)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (trdmm)

68 I want to see David Holmes and 'Masha' Yovanovitch testify together in the Senate, just for the obscure joke of calling them 'Holmes and Yoyo.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (oVJmc)

69 "Recreational Marxism" hits the nail on the head.

I noticed in the replies to Murray's post, a lot of people are knocking the young lady for delivering a one-liner rather than actually engaging with Marxism as an academic theory. Which to a point is fair; if you're going to make a career in academia, Marxist or quasi-Marxist interpretations of X are so ingrained you're going to have to deal with it sooner or later. But what those people are missing is the fact that Marxism is a pose for anyone in higher ed who does mouth its platitudes.

Your sociology professor who confidently expresses the "Marxist interpretation of housing" isn't a proletarian; he makes up to $100,000+ if he's tenured and most likely lives in a gated neighborhood. They don't take it seriously, any more than the lady giving her dissertation does. Subscribing to it is a marker of noblesse oblige, nothing more.

Nothing has changed since the days of Radical Chic.
Posted by: Dr. T at November 23, 2019 11:54 AM (2PXwn)

You are talking about a problem Ace has addressed here before, and is probably worth amplifying.

If you are fighting the academics, just as if you are fighting Hollowwwod, and fighting the lawfare warriors, the genderbenders, social media, the gay mafia, the gun grabbers... and on and on and on, they currently OWN the battlefield.

Which means, you have to battle them on THEIR terms, and having to use their methods, their ground rules, their language... they've already half won the battle.

I think we're at a point where ridicule and mockery are the best tools to use, and there are plenty (including our Ace) who do it well, to good effect.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:09 PM (hku12)

70 It never occurs to the trendies to ask these people what actual Communism was like.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2019 11:48 AM (I2/tG

Because This time,when We try it...it'll work.
For sure.

Posted by: firefirefire at November 23, 2019 12:09 PM (Seb55)

71 Just back from the gun shop. I did pick up that CZ 75. A very merry Christmas to me.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (Y4EXg)

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I know, right? The hell is wrong with me?

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 12:05 PM (MVjcR)

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Well, since we're on the subject, I ordered, received, and finally shot one of those CZ75-based IMI Jericho 941F Israeli police turn-ins that a moron mentioned a few weeks ago.

https://tinyurl.com/y3jrfnom

Looks sort of rough but holy cow that thing oozes quality. Shoots like crazy, too. The majority of the magazine in a paper plate at 40 yards, and I'm not a very good shot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:10 PM (825RR)

72 Marxist Music Theory examines the struggle between major keys and minor keys which, historically, is a false dichotomy as both scales and their tonalcratic chords ignore the diminished fifth. The only pragmatic way to solve the inequality inherent in this system is for the diminished fifth to unite with the diatonic semitone and organize ALL chromatics to maximize pitch equity.

Posted by: FireHorse at November 23, 2019 12:10 PM (aTOTz)

73 67 My favorite Hungarian Rhapsody video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqGEeymMzQM

(Bugs Bunny)
Posted by: Tom Servo

Nice! I really enjoy Bugs as Leopold! too. LOL

https://youtu.be/gt1V61SPI_w

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 12:12 PM (Y4EXg)

74 "I grew up in Eastern Europe during the Cold War. I do not indulge in recreational Marxism."

Wicked good answer!
I hope she passed.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 23, 2019 12:12 PM (axyOa)

75 "Recreational Marxism"

"Brevity is the soul of wit."

Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 12:12 PM (Gqta/)

76 Guns I've always admired but never owned:

CZ75
Browning Hi-power
Ruger precision rifle
BAR
M14
Luger P08

I could go on. And I'll probably never own any of them, I haven't been shooting for a couple of years. If I bought one I'd just put it in a case and take it out and polish it every once in a while.

Posted by: Pastafarian at November 23, 2019 12:12 PM (sgHEm)

77 Your sociology professor who confidently expresses the "Marxist interpretation of housing" isn't a proletarian; he makes up to $100,000+ if he's tenured and most likely lives in a gated neighborhood. They don't take it seriously, any more than the lady giving her dissertation does. Subscribing to it is a marker of noblesse oblige, nothing more.

--

There's a reason Elon Musk was trying to make a big deal about the bulletproof glass in the electric cars he's marketing as an around-town third and fourth vehicle to upper middle class leftists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:13 PM (825RR)

78 Just booked an eye exam, thanks for the reminder. I have annual vision benefits to use anyhow.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 23, 2019 12:13 PM (t+qrx)

79 Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:03 PM (hku12)
******
That's fine, But he wouldn't say that if it weren't true
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:08 PM (BqBId)

Yeah, but what does it mean? He caught them.

Great. Now what. They're about to impeach you. What's your next move, dude. You got their attention, and they're gunning for you. Glib twitter posts are great and all, but again, you're fighting them on THEIR turf. You better have a strategy.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)

80 Ed Henry NeverTrumper Extreme is lying about Rudy Giuliani to Rudy's face

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:14 PM (BqBId)

81 FWIW, Sams clubs have eyedrop-free exams using specialized cameras if you don't need anything overly complicated. I don't think you have to be a member to use the services.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:15 PM (825RR)

82 Want an example of the destruction wrought by luxury beliefs - look no further than the NeverTrumpers.

NeverTrumpers are the rich left's Iagos, paid to trumpet to the masses the destructive virtual signaling beliefs of their rich lefty patrons - thus you get the destruction of their souls along with whomever falls within their orbit.

Posted by: Boswell at November 23, 2019 12:15 PM (32YRo)

83 Recreational Marxism. Excellent. Saw the same bullshit in the 60's with war protesting. The leaders of the protests on campus were wealthy and would join their fathers law firm or some business after graduation. The followers were stupid doped up hippies. I had no part of it. Hell I was working every hour i wasn't studying.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 23, 2019 12:15 PM (oY5lM)

84 Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
****
1st the Senate Impeachment Trial, 2nd FISA Report, 3rd John Durham

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:15 PM (BqBId)

85 Luxury belief system - basically a destructive vice, that only the rich can support

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 12:15 PM (G546f)

86 Marxist Music Theory examines the struggle between major keys and minor keys which, historically, is a false dichotomy as both scales and their tonalcratic chords ignore the diminished fifth. The only pragmatic way to solve the inequality inherent in this system is for the diminished fifth to unite with the diatonic semitone and organize ALL chromatics to maximize pitch equity.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 23, 2019 12:10 PM (aTOTz)

I wish your comment came with English subtitles.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)

87 Just back from the gun shop. I did pick up that CZ 75. A very merry Christmas to me.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 11:57 AM (Y4EXg)

They are soooo nice.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 23, 2019 12:16 PM (9Om/r)

88 Ohio St. vs. Penn St. is big game today. Can't stand either, so hoping for both to lose.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2019 12:17 PM (r+sAi)

89 Ed Henry NeverTrumper Extreme is lying about Rudy Giuliani to Rudy's face
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit

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See, to me, that's the thing that will swing some undecideds to the Dark Side. Guys like Henry lie so often and in the presence of undeniable fact, that only the willfully ignorant will continue to follow.

It's what is killing the MSM.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 12:17 PM (Y4EXg)

90 Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
****
1st the Senate Impeachment Trial, 2nd FISA Report, 3rd John Durham
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 12:15 PM (BqBId)

We'll just see how that goes.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:17 PM (hku12)

91 LMAO! I'm sitting here listening to Liszt, waiting for the sound of a blender when the light bulb goes on.

With you people I expect anything.

Posted by: creeper at November 23, 2019 12:18 PM (fE1wp)

92 I wish your comment came with English subtitles.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)

Coles Notes version: a Marxist piano has but one key, and when you play it, it goes "Gulag!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:18 PM (/sgva)

93 I wish your comment came with English subtitles.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)

Coles Notes version: a Marxist piano has but one key, and when you play it, it goes "Gulag!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:18 PM (/sgva)

Ha!

Wonder what a marxist accordion sounds like.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:20 PM (hku12)

94 Nice essay from this morning linked at Powerline:

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2019/11/ americas-drift-toward-feudalism/

(remove space)

Worthwhile read and he had me at the 'clerisy' (h/t Insty) analysis. We are creating a class of eunuchs.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 23, 2019 12:21 PM (MIKMs)

95 Wonder what a marxist accordion sounds like.
Breaking bones.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2019 12:22 PM (r+sAi)

96 93 I wish your comment came with English subtitles.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)

Coles Notes version: a Marxist piano has but one key, and when you play it, it goes "Gulag!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:18 PM (/sgva)

Ha!

Wonder what a marxist accordion sounds like.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:20 PM (hku12)

The screams of the oppressed, of course.

Posted by: Don Q at November 23, 2019 12:23 PM (NgKpN)

97 88 Ohio St. vs. Penn St. is big game today. Can't stand either, so hoping for both to lose.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2019 12:17 PM (r+sAi

O-H!

Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2019 12:23 PM (Z7lwY)

98 Grump

By chance you went to a Robert E. Lee high school?

Posted by: krusty at November 23, 2019 12:24 PM (q8Ta7)

99 Marxist Music Theory examines the struggle between major keys and minor keys which, historically, is a false dichotomy as both scales and their tonalcratic chords ignore the diminished fifth. The only pragmatic way to solve the inequality inherent in this system is for the diminished fifth to unite with the diatonic semitone and organize ALL chromatics to maximize pitch equity.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 23, 2019 12:10 PM (aTOTz)

Very sharp theory.

Posted by: Don Q at November 23, 2019 12:24 PM (NgKpN)

100 No Guardrails for the 21st Century

Posted by: Quilp at November 23, 2019 12:25 PM (Fxgkp)

101 Anyways, Roll Tide, Roll!

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Roll Tide, my friend.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:25 PM (825RR)

102 Luxury beliefs
Recreational Marxism
Clerisy

I am loving all the new terms here

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 12:25 PM (G546f)

103 In other words, to paraphrase Orwell: "Some ideas are so fucking stupid that only intellectuals and the wealthy believe them."

Posted by: Sharkman at November 23, 2019 12:26 PM (S6rpg)

104 BTC. Yes DJT does a lot of stream of thought speaking and tweeting and some of it is dumb or at least scrambled. But it is so refreshing to have a politician who CAN just say what he thinks cuz he doesn't have to keep track of which lies (or spin if you feel charitable) he has told to this particular group.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 23, 2019 12:27 PM (n4y+3)

105 17 Alabama is about to play their pre-Iron Bowl bums. This is normally an uninteresting game but considering Tua is out for the season, we will get a really good look at Mac Jones, 5star QB recruit. Alabama is still in the hunt for the playoffs, based on their record, but we will fail the "eye test" without Tua unless Mac steps up and shows that he really was a contender for the starting spot. Steve Sarkisian better let Mac run the whole offense, win or lose. None of this reduced playlist crap. It's Jones' time to step up and use that receiving corps he has.

Anyways, Roll Tide, Roll!

Posted by: Grump928(C)

I'm sure they're trying desperately to figure out how they can get Alabama in again. Don't worry.

Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2019 12:27 PM (Z7lwY)

106 Marx was a stupid bum.

Posted by: Chris M at November 23, 2019 12:27 PM (6XZdO)

107 Well shit. I only have 18,000 Hilton Honors points.

Posted by: Bert G at November 23, 2019 12:28 PM (OMsf+)

108 from Merriam Webster:

CLERISY

English philosopher-poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772-1834) believed that if humanity was to flourish, it was necessary to create a secular organization of learned individuals, "whether poets, or philosophers, or scholars" to "diffuse through the whole community ... that quantity and quality of knowledge which was indispensable." Coleridge named this hypothetical group the clerisy, a term he adapted from Klerisei, a German word for clergy (in preference, it seems, to the Russian term intelligentsia which we borrowed later, in the early 1900s). Coleridge may have equated clerisy with an old sense of clergy meaning "learning" or "knowledge," which by his time was used only in the proverb "an ounce of mother wit is worth a pound of clergy."

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 12:29 PM (G546f)

109 Marx was a stupid bum.
Posted by: Chris M at November 23, 2019 12:27 PM (6XZdO)

Smelled bad too. Treated his wife like trash.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:29 PM (hku12)

110 Dennis Preger has similar outlooks that Leftists make their appearance that they are out for the weak and downtrodden but then that stops right there as far as having to actually do something.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 12:30 PM (ZCEU2)

111 he was Michael moore about a 150 pounds lighter, he wasn't the first to chronicle Victorian poverty, in fact henry moore,sic in the lives of the London poor, did so encyclopedically but he didn't have a policy proscription,

Posted by: gaius martius at November 23, 2019 12:30 PM (hMlTh)

112 24 Tangentially, Lizzy Warren being harassed by protestors at Clark University, Atlanta, as reported by the DM:

"The demonstrators were only silenced after freshman Rep. Ayanna Pressley, ..., came on stage to try and tame them"

Animals I tell ya they're just animals.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 11:49 AM (Gqta/)

You sow the wind, yada yada yada.

Posted by: Sooner at November 23, 2019 12:30 PM (Fs5vw)

113 When Trump said "I caught them all, I caught the swamp" he acknowledged that with the ongoing impeachment that the coup plotters, those involved in government graft, and those involved in covering it up (obstruction) have provided the needed evidence for their prosecution.

This process was started under Sleepy Sessions, who fooled them into thinking nothing was being done. It is true nothing was being by him on the Russian Collusion Hoax since he was recused, but the investigations into leaking leakers involved are many of the same folks. Barr will be able to bring it all down because Sessions investigated the coup from the leaking end, which was legal and ethical since he was investigating the ongoing crime of leaks from the federal government. Barr added the effort to find the Predicate for the Trump investigation.

Additionally, the FISA surveillance became a powerful tool for the Trump administration because FISA WORKS BOTH WAYS.

It's hard enough to follow proper procedures and processes when you are being honest, but when you are running a scam or a hoax but just one glitch will cause the whole thing to crash, no matter how many times everyone is instructed to commit sedition BY THE BOOK.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 23, 2019 12:31 PM (9Z5z0)

114 Why on earth would anyone feel guilt over obtaining a luxury?

As long as said luxury is achieved legally, morally and ethically where is the criteria for guilt?

Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 12:32 PM (KATBx)

115 Franz Liszt was a Hungarian nationalist who lived outside of Hungary for most of his life.

He also earned money as a piano teacher. My childhood piano teacher made it a point to inform her students to know that their pedagogical lineage traced directly back to Liszt.

Posted by: Bert G at November 23, 2019 12:33 PM (OMsf+)

116 I think this observation explains why the Climate extremist movement has gotten so strong in places like the UK and Germany. Take the activists in London, for example: in the 19th century, they considered themselves the Capitol of the World. (they always were arrogant bastards) Now Great Britain has lost all of its colonies, they've lost the last bits of military power they once had, they've lost their financial muscle (American, China, and even India are much more important than they are) and they're left with a nation that is little more than Canada with castles

So what do they do? They buy into this ideology which tells that thet going out and shrieking on the street is going to make them IMPORTANT!!! again - even though getting rid of every possible source of industry in Great Britain today would not make a measurable difference to anything on a world wide scale. It's a psychological tantrum caused by their inability to deal with their loss of status, and lack of importance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2019 12:33 PM (trdmm)

117
Well, since we're on the subject, I ordered, received, and finally shot one of those CZ75-based IMI Jericho 941F Israeli police turn-ins that a moron mentioned a few weeks ago.

https://tinyurl.com/y3jrfnom

Looks sort of rough but holy cow that thing oozes quality. Shoots like crazy, too. The majority of the magazine in a paper plate at 40 yards, and I'm not a very good shot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:10 PM (825RR)
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Nice!!! And inside a plate at 40 yards is nothing to sneeze at.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 12:34 PM (XmZvi)

118 People assume others are just like themselves. The same reason I don't mind another person having a full-auto supressed MP5 is the same reason so many on the left are terrified of others having one.

I'm guessing the left and the marxists assume everyone else achieved wealth in the same low-down, underhanded way they know they came about theirs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:34 PM (825RR)

119 Liszt is the Shitz

Posted by: socalcon at November 23, 2019 12:35 PM (Roy2Z)

120 Coleridge may have equated clerisy with an old sense of clergy meaning "learning" or "knowledge," which by his time was used only in the proverb "an ounce of mother wit is worth a pound of clergy."
Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 12:29 PM (G546f)

Kind of related to how the MSM uses "cleric" to describe a shit weasel like al Baghdadi.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:36 PM (/sgva)

121 Marxism is to Economics as Astrology is to Sociology.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 23, 2019 12:36 PM (9Z5z0)

122 status symbols, upward mobility, the suburban lawn as legacy of the english manor house - all from veblen.

but this is one of the best threads woven here in some time.

to paraphrase patton - "tanks a lot'.

Posted by: mjc at November 23, 2019 12:37 PM (Pg+x7)

123 ...never met a rhapsody i didn't like.....

Posted by: krusty at November 23, 2019 12:37 PM (q8Ta7)

124 Have Auburn and Alabama ever lost their silly end season cupcake joke games?

Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2019 12:37 PM (Z7lwY)

125

Was Liszt one of those luxury believers? Or maybe a daydream believer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2019 12:37 PM (aKsyK)

126 Soros-Linked 'Dark Money' Group Is Funding Ads Urging Vulnerable Republicans To Impeach Trump, Records Show

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Yeah, boy, that's a sure fire path to re-election.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 23, 2019 12:37 PM (+y/Ru)

127 Was Liszt one of those luxury believers? Or maybe a daydream believer.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2019 12:37 PM (aKsyK)

Did he Liszt to port or to starboard?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 12:38 PM (/sgva)

128 The stats on single parent family are alarming ... especially when viewed graphically. The hate for Murray and his objective exposure of the "war on white America" (I don't think he refers to it that way) extends back to his book The Bell Curve, which revealed that yes, genetics differ among races. By denying that reality we (academia/commies, actually) block objective solutions to social demands for "equality". It was one of many 2+2=5 moments for academia, demanding submission to "Diversity is our Strength" religion, versus logical defense of our nation/borders/trade.

imo, the family structure is natural, and community bonding also normal. It was the outsider Soviet infiltration that developed and deployed the schemes to destroy America from within ... infiltrating the White House, but also the culture via Hollywood, media, then the march through all institutions. The Family was a prime target, sexual "freedom" the seductive fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

The Luxury Beliefs may indeed be a real malady of the arrogant rich, but imo it is a weapon of mass social destruction, wielded by the true conspirators, carrying out their New World Order dreams. Or perhaps that whole NWO thing is itself a Luxury Belief, but mostly I think it is the various Government/Military Industrial Complexes, spread into academic fraud, and into the very structure of "global monetary policy". (now Google/FB/Twatter is "their" insidious weapon)

"I grew up in Eastern Europe during the Cold War. I do not indulge in recreational Marxism." Great, already red-pilled. But what of the last two generations of Americans that grew up cradled in recreational Marxism, fat and sassy Marxists?

Millennials gorged on decades of debt, a quadrillion floated by mortgaging America to fund leftist foundations and Wall Street gamblers. Currency collapse could start the new "Cold War", and most are ill prepared.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 23, 2019 12:38 PM (Cus5s)

129 PDT's distinctive, plain-spoken, NYC biz tycoon brash style is mostly refreshing and at times hilarious. And the candor and authenticity are among the things that vaulted him into the WH after generations of [mostly] lawyerly, or outrageously dishonest, talk from politicos.

Only time I wish he'd switch to his more measured, less conversational mode is in discussing key issues where *he* is almost a lone voice - including the specifics of the ridiculous impeachment effort. His call with Zelensky was, indeed, "perfect" [nothing the slightest bit illegal, improper, OR "unsavory", to include the eye-rolling crap beloved of even many non-NT pundits].

But would be easy to add a few words explaining that - presidential power in foreign policy, responsibility to enforce the law and police corruption of American offices, national interests.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:38 PM (QDnY+)

130 You have nothing to fear from communism!

Posted by: Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria at November 23, 2019 12:39 PM (EgshT)

131 Nice!!! And inside a plate at 40 yards is nothing to sneeze at.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 12:34 PM (XmZvi)

--

It's my new house pistol (and car/truck gun if I'm not getting out). I'm that confident with it.

I'm really, really tempted to order another one, frankly. From what I can tell the IMI ones (vs IWI) were still made in Israeli factories. It's sort of humbling to know it was likely fired out of need, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 12:39 PM (825RR)

132 I'm pretty sure that if I was born into the 1% I would be an awful person. When I was younger I tended toward selfish and self-destructive behavior but the ups and downs and struggles, both financial and personal, of life shaped me into a better person. At least so I like to believe.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 23, 2019 12:39 PM (Rz36l)

133 Thomas Sowell once said that activism is "a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole."
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Per Moron recommendation, I have recently obtained a copy of Sowell's 'Seeking Cosmic Justice'. I look forward to it rising to the top of the waiting-to-be-read list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 23, 2019 12:40 PM (xSo9G)

134 132 I'm pretty sure that if I was born into the 1% I would be an awful person

==

same here

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 12:40 PM (G546f)

135 Yeah they can 'afford' it, the rest not so much.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 23, 2019 12:42 PM (XwF+S)

136 114 Ask any of the thousand Hollywood Leftists or Rock stars.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 12:42 PM (ZCEU2)

137 I'm pretty sure that if I was born into the 1% I would be an awful person. When I was younger I tended toward selfish and self-destructive behavior but the ups and downs and struggles, both financial and personal, of life shaped me into a better person. At least so I like to believe.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 23, 2019 12:39 PM (Rz36l)

"I was curious if I could care about (money) on some fundamental level, and I couldn't..."
-- Chelsea Clinton

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 23, 2019 12:43 PM (aS1PU)

138 83 Recreational Marxism. Excellent. Saw the same bullshit in the 60's with war protesting. The leaders of the protests on campus were wealthy and would join their fathers law firm or some business after graduation. The followers were stupid doped up hippies. I had no part of it. Hell I was working every hour i wasn't studying.

The shoulda-been-executeds like Bill Ayers and the Boudin cocksocket that gave us the new SF DA.

Posted by: JEM at November 23, 2019 12:43 PM (8erNz)

139 All this CZ-75 talk is deliberately intended to make me suffer - I can tell. Or force me to finally just get one, even if there's no room in the safe. Fine, be like that. Barbarians.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:44 PM (QDnY+)

140 Pol Pot persisted.

Posted by: Chelsea Hubbel at November 23, 2019 12:45 PM (EgshT)

141 All this CZ-75 talk is deliberately intended to make me suffer - I can tell. Or force me to finally just get one, even if there's no room in the safe. Fine, be like that. Barbarians.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:44 PM (QDnY+)
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He's onto us, people!

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 12:46 PM (MVjcR)

142 Posted by: Guzalot at November 23, 2019 12:39 PM (Rz36l)

"I was curious if I could care about (money) on some fundamental level, and I couldn't..."
-- Chelsea Clinton
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 23, 2019 12:43 PM (aS1PU)

I think it was Lenin who once said "I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love."

After he made millions, of course.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2019 12:46 PM (hku12)

143 Oh - and rubbing it in by making it about models I can't get* here in the people's republik of CA. The cruelty.

* the clone models aren't on the "roster" of approved handguns - but if you can find one for a private sale, you can get it, or if it's C and R ..... no, it's not just you wondering how any of that relates to "safety", or public interest

Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:47 PM (QDnY+)

144 134 132 I'm pretty sure that if I was born into the 1% I would be an awful person
==
same here
Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 12:40 PM (G546f)

The saying is that power corrupts, but in my observed experience nothing corrupts so completely as a 20 something, male or female, who has a whole lot of money and a whole lot of time on their hands.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (trdmm)

145 Luxury beliefs have always existed. Chivalry is very much a luxury belief- mostly adopted by the nobility to give a compassionate and Christian focus to their lives. Without it, you have a lot of violent hedge knights turning medieval Europe into a rapefest. Aka Game of Thrones. The beliefs separate the Upper Class from the Lower, and justifies the expropriation of the latter. Although the instincts of the old Christians are far more benevolent than modern bankster ethics.

Now things like minimum wage are used to deliberately hurt rural areas while not improving the lives of urban dwellers one jot, as automation takes over. Modern ethics have entered terminal convergence: attacking the values they once espoused as core beliefs. Donald Trump's brilliant exploitation of this divide is why he won. And will win.

Posted by: trev006 at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (FoV3c)

146 OK, just got another cup of coffee. My sentence structure should now improve.

Posted by: Bert G at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (OMsf+)

147 So in California, the Clone Wars begun they have?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (XwF+S)

148 Unearned wealth is often a poison.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (CDGwz)

149 KT, I look forward to your threads each week because you always find interesting and unusual things to write about. Even if I'm not around to comment, I always come back to read what you've written.

And that piece by Liszt is my favorite of his works.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 12:50 PM (/669Q)

150 if it wasn't for her professional grifters for parents, chelsee chubble clinton would be a penniless gutter snipe begging for rides to the soup kitchen. she is a complete waste of oxygen and mostly full of shit. all she can do is procreate.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 23, 2019 12:51 PM (KP5rU)

151
g'early afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 23, 2019 12:51 PM (KCxzN)

152 Unearned wealth is often a poison.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (CDGwz)
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See, e.g., Prince Andrew.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 12:51 PM (/669Q)

153 Or Hunter Biden.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 12:51 PM (/669Q)

154 I'm pretty sure that if I was born into the 1% I
would be an awful person. When I was younger I tended toward selfish
and self-destructive behavior but the ups and downs and struggles, both
financial and personal, of life shaped me into a better person. At
least so I like to believe.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 23, 2019 12:39 PM (Rz36l)

I would be Arthur, or maybe Rodney Dangerfield's character from Back to School, or Caddy Shack. Although, all things seem to point to ending up as some eccentric happy go lucky musician type, only this time with fuck you money. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 23, 2019 12:52 PM (9Om/r)

155 Or Hunter Biden.

He's mean.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at November 23, 2019 12:53 PM (EgshT)

156 I eschew luxury at all levels.

I enjoy it that way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 23, 2019 12:53 PM (Z+IKu)

157 fuck you money is good.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 23, 2019 12:53 PM (KP5rU)

158 All this CZ-75 talk is deliberately intended to make me suffer - I can
tell. Or force me to finally just get one, even if there's no room in
the safe. Fine, be like that. Barbarians.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:44 PM (QDnY+)

Pssst (get a new safe)

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 23, 2019 12:54 PM (9Om/r)

159 "clone" in this case means the Israeli [or other] versions of a CZ-75, which are desirable, often, due to cost advantages, esp. the used/surplus examples.

CZ gets major kudos for going to the trouble of keeping even some of their out of production models [CZ-83, others] on the CA roster for years, allowing people here to buy them commercially from out of state, surplus, etc. Not sure any other manufacturer has done that.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:54 PM (QDnY+)

160
Time to luxuriate in the privilege of being born and living in this most exceptional country.

Guilt free, because I earned my privilege and thank God for it.

Have the best possible day, good people.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 12:55 PM (KATBx)

161 Have the best possible day, good people.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 12:55 PM (KATBx)
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Thank you, irongrampa. You too. Do you have a cat, by any chance?

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 12:56 PM (/669Q)

162 https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15192/norway-thought-police

Burning a book you own, if it happens to be a Koran can be a crime.
Norway is fked

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 12:56 PM (ZCEU2)

163 Berserker, indeed. There are already a few toys stashed in very secure fashion outside the safe. Just don't want to add to that. And next safe is going to be real one, commercial grade, so $$$, so procrastination is being vigorously practiced .....

Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2019 12:56 PM (QDnY+)

164 if it wasn't for her professional grifters for parents, chelsee chubble clinton would be a penniless gutter snipe begging for rides to the soup kitchen. she is a complete waste of oxygen and mostly full of shit. all she can do is procreate.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 23, 2019 12:51 PM (KP5rU)

Yup....she would be turning tricks to earn the love of her pimp and a few hits off the glass dick at the end of her night.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 23, 2019 12:57 PM (Z+IKu)

165 114 Why on earth would anyone feel guilt over obtaining a luxury?

As long as said luxury is achieved legally, morally and ethically where is the criteria for guilt?
Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 12:32 PM (KATBx)

As with everything acquired; most things are not good nor evil. They're just things. It's up the individual how they're going to be used.

I celebrate those people I know that have become wealthy. Then I sit down and watch what they do with it.

Posted by: Sooner at November 23, 2019 12:57 PM (Fs5vw)

166 OT

Asking for prayers for my DIL, Angie.

She is in the hospital, with possible gall bladder removal and a bowel obstruction. In addition, this beautiful young woman has multiple, serious, auto immune diseases.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (TdMsT)

167 164 if it wasn't for her professional grifters for parents, chelsee chubble clinton would be a penniless gutter snipe begging for rides to the soup kitchen. she is a complete waste of oxygen and mostly full of shit. all she can do is procreate.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 23, 2019 12:51 PM (KP5rU)

Yup....she would be turning tricks to earn the love of her pimp and a few hits off the glass dick at the end of her night.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 23, 2019 12:57 PM (Z+IKu)

She'd be an Arkansas trailer park meth skank with 3 babies from 3 guys in the trailer park.

Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (Z7lwY)

168 I just smoked a pretty luxurious cigar.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (MVjcR)

169 All this CZ-75 talk is deliberately intended to make me suffer - I can tell. Or force me to finally just get one, even if there's no room in the safe. Fine, be like that. Barbarians.
Posted by: rhomboid

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Clearly my friend, you have not thought through this problem to it's logical conclusion.

Buy a bigger safe.

We're here to help. LOL I don't even use a safe anymore - just a lockable industrial sized tool box with my customized innards. I'm only trying to slow down a bad guy anyway.

Next house will have a secure, fireproof room for such things.

If I had them.

Which I don't.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 01:00 PM (Y4EXg)

170 Completely OT Anybody know how much time there is for a message on a land line. I only get sales pitches anyway. I thought I'd turn it in a line for an inspirational message and for prayer requests.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2019 01:00 PM (WI7YS)

171 She is in the hospital, with possible gall bladder removal and a bowel obstruction. In addition, this beautiful young woman has multiple, serious, auto immune diseases.
Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (TdMsT)

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Prayers up.

I had my gall bladder removed in my 20s.

Don't even miss it.

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 01:01 PM (RU4sa)

172 Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (TdMsT)
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Prayers for you and your DIL, Ladyl.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:02 PM (MVjcR)

173 "he only pragmatic way to solve the inequality inherent in this system is
for the diminished fifth to unite with the diatonic semitone and
organize ALL chromatics to maximize pitch equity." Posted by: FireHorse

fascinating ... but I'd need a ten minute YouTube explanation, complete with charts of the scales and explanation of the terms. The social implications are HUGE ... or maybe not, depends on the meaning of "diatonic semitone"

... another interesting conceptual arena I will probably never get around to exploring. ha

Posted by: illiniwek at November 23, 2019 01:02 PM (Cus5s)

174 Asking for prayers for my DIL, Angie.

She is in the hospital, with possible gall bladder removal and a bowel obstruction. In addition, this beautiful young woman has multiple, serious, auto immune diseases.
Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (TdMsT)
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Oh no. Poor dear. Of course I will pray.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:02 PM (/669Q)

175 Recreational Marxism- maybe I wasn't off the mark a few days ago when I wrote our Leftists were newbies at Marxism and really haven't gotten the gist of how to do it yet.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:02 PM (ZCEU2)

176 @ 161

Yes bluebell, we do have a cat. A rescue that youngest daughter took off the street. He and the dog are best buds.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 01:03 PM (KATBx)

177 Completely OT Anybody know how much time there is for a message on a land line. I only get sales pitches anyway. I thought I'd turn it in a line for an inspirational message and for prayer requests.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2019 01:00 PM (WI7YS
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No idea, Fen. Maybe 30 seconds, at most? Try making a message of you just talking about anything while you time how long it takes until you get cut off. Then record over it with your chosen message.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:04 PM (/669Q)

178 Ladyl- you have it.
If she is in good care she will be fine.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:04 PM (ZCEU2)

179 Yes bluebell, we do have a cat. A rescue that youngest daughter took off the street. He and the dog are best buds.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 01:03 PM (KATBx)
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Aha. I thought as much. Would one of your chores today be, by any coincidence, cleaning the KAT Box?

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:04 PM (/669Q)

180 And for the record, I would welcome a hash like KATBx over that thing I have now.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:06 PM (/669Q)

181 prayers up, ladyl

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 01:06 PM (G546f)

182

I heard Henderson interviewed on the radio this past week. The left is in love with promoting all of the left wing ideals and lifestyles without a lot of times practicing it themselves. As quoted above they have kids in marriage, good jobs and a lot of them avoid the destructive behaviors and lifestyles that they promote or support to virtual signal that they aren't "judgemental".

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 23, 2019 01:06 PM (nmk4I)

183 Myron Magnet visited the idea of luxury beliefs in his "The Dream and The Nightmare" Those with resources can avoid the consequences of counterproductive beliefs and those without can't. But those with sell the beliefs to those without.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at November 23, 2019 01:06 PM (fikzx)

184 Asking for prayers for my DIL, Angie.

Posted by: Ladyl

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Of course Ladyl - prayers for Angie.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2019 01:07 PM (Y4EXg)

185 Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 12:59 PM (TdMsT)

Will pray for healing for your daughter in law, Angie.
You can also send a prayer request to the nice woman who is handling to the prayer list right now. She (pseudonym "Annie's Stew") can be reached at:

apaslo at sign hotmail.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2019 01:07 PM (WI7YS)

186 @150
Come on chavez, tell what you really think of Chels. LOL

Posted by: Farmer at November 23, 2019 01:08 PM (605Ma)

187 http://bit.ly/2OF1bUN
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Biden: I Hope Senators Trying Trump Realize They'll Go Down in History as to Whether They Followed Rules | Breitbart
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Sloe Joe Bidet sounds like he is shitting his adult diapers

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 01:08 PM (BqBId)

188 Weasel did you watch that Tank round in slow motion link from the ONT Thursday night?

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:09 PM (ZCEU2)

189 Sloe Joe Bidet sounds like he is shitting his adult diapers

It happens.

Posted by: Eric Fartswell at November 23, 2019 01:11 PM (EgshT)

190 @ 179

LOL--would you believe I never noticed the hash?

Not much of a cat fancier, but every time we visit a house with a cat or cats it's guaranteed there will be one or more on my lap.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 01:11 PM (KATBx)

191 Thank you for your prayers, Horde. I'm waiting to see when they want me to come down there. Her parents are coming and taking the kids.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 01:12 PM (TdMsT)

192 188 Weasel did you watch that Tank round in slow motion link from the ONT Thursday night?
Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:09 PM (ZCEU2)
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No! I'll need to go check that out. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:13 PM (MVjcR)

193 Prayers up LadyL.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 23, 2019 01:14 PM (n4y+3)

194 I set WeaselCatv2 up with little beds around the house underneath the heat vents, good kitty.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:15 PM (MVjcR)

195 Thorstein Veblen's Theory of the Leisure Class-A Status Update

The movie Metropolitan 1990 talks about Veblen's Theory of the Leisure Class as it's brought up by a character claiming to be a "committed socialist" and taken with the ideals of French socialist Charles Fourier. Later in the movie he admits that none of that it actually workable or what he'd really want

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 23, 2019 01:16 PM (nmk4I)

196 farmer, i'll have to work on my communication skills.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 23, 2019 01:17 PM (KP5rU)

197 Weasel - Linked it to The Miniature Page of course, I noticed it but another commentor wrote it wobbled so must have been inferior or poorly made. As a tank round is just a very big bullet does this wobble happen often, I do think it starts out to wobble but the spin straightens it out after a short time.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:17 PM (ZCEU2)

198 When he goes into stream of consciousness I feel that I am witnessing true greatness.

I also dreamed that Soros works for the CIA last night.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 01:17 PM (Gqta/)

199 Unearned wealth is often a poison.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 23, 2019 12:48 PM (CDGwz)

So is quick wealth. Guys like Rockefeller and Carnegie had to learn a lot about dealing with different types of people and interests in amassing assets. More than coming up with innovative code.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 23, 2019 01:18 PM (y7DUB)

200 Prayers also up for RBG. She may or may not have been admitted last night.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 23, 2019 01:18 PM (TLxpZ)

201 FNM told me last night that some 'watchdog' group filed a FOIA and got 100 pages on all Ukraine comms. Supposedly looking for a smear campaign against ugly Masha. I was struck that the FOIA request was followed so quickly vs when Barky was occupying the Oval office. Also I hope some honest reporters or groups also get the documentation so there is not only the carefully clipped bits released by OFA or whomever.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 23, 2019 01:18 PM (n4y+3)

202 prayers up LadyL. I hope your daughter in law comes through the treatment quickly and is back to good health in no time. Prayers also for her auto immune issues, as well as your peace and comfort being away from your family.

Posted by: Moki at November 23, 2019 01:21 PM (mFoNl)

203 Agitator - depends if you need eyeglasses in general, but if you just need to read get the cheapies off the rack at any store. I have about ten $1 glasses stashed around the house.
Otherwise find the style you like and see if you can find them online, generally cheaper than the retail stores.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2019 11:51 AM (r+sAi)

Unfortunately not readers but the real deal specs. Cataract surgery a month or so ago got rid of the cataracts but due to previous RK and lasik surgery, the surgeon warned that I may not get 20/20 results. He was right.

Posted by: Agitator at November 23, 2019 01:21 PM (VP1T8)

204 prayers up LadyL.
****
Thoughts & Prayers Up

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 01:22 PM (BqBId)

205 197 Weasel - Linked it to The Miniature Page of course, I noticed it but another commentor wrote it wobbled so must have been inferior or poorly made. As a tank round is just a very big bullet does this wobble happen often, I do think it starts out to wobble but the spin straightens it out after a short time.
Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:17 PM (ZCEU2)
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I haven't watched it yet, but you can have induced projectile yaw when it leaves the barrel. It's caused when the rotation along the bore axis stops and rotation around bullet axis begins.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:23 PM (MVjcR)

206 @124 Buzzion

cupcake is spelled envy

Posted by: jus a game u no at November 23, 2019 01:24 PM (WX+x0)

207 LOL--would you believe I never noticed the hash?

Not much of a cat fancier, but every time we visit a house with a cat or cats it's guaranteed there will be one or more on my lap.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2019 01:11 PM (KATBx)
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They are beautiful creatures, and they love me. Unfortunately, my immune system doesn't love them back.

Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:24 PM (/669Q)

208
They are beautiful creatures, and they love me. Unfortunately, my immune system doesn't love them back.
Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:24 PM (/669Q)
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WeaselDog likes you too.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:25 PM (MVjcR)

209 Biden: I Hope Senators Trying Trump Realize They'll Go Down in History as to Whether They Followed Rules | Breitbart
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Sloe Joe Bidet sounds like he is shitting his adult diapers
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 01:08 PM (BqBId)

I want to say bless his heart, and I'm not even from the south.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at November 23, 2019 01:26 PM (Uu+Jp)

210 195 "veblen's theory of the leisure class - an update..."

veblen was a "progressive", although i don't think he was a socialist. and however dated his theories might be, many of his observations have currency. (cf. "luxury without guilt" by open blogger, aoshq, 11/23/19).

Posted by: mjc at November 23, 2019 01:27 PM (Pg+x7)

211
One nice thing about the new job: not having to deal with Europeans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2019 01:28 PM (7rVsF)

212 They are beautiful creatures, and they love me. Unfortunately, my immune system doesn't love them back.
Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2019 01:24 PM (/669Q)

I'm super allergic to cats. I've had signs recently that I'm getting allergic to dogs, too.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 01:28 PM (TdMsT)

213 Also on that video you see the shock wave form in front of the round, awesome to see.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:29 PM (ZCEU2)

214 Thank you thank you thank you, everybody.

I can always count on wonderful prayer support here.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 01:30 PM (TdMsT)

215 213 Also on that video you see the shock wave form in front of the round, awesome to see.
Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:29 PM (ZCEU2)
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Under the proper conditions you can see that with rifle bullets, too. It helps to be directly behind the shooter looking through a spotting scope. You can often watch the bullet (really the shock wave as you described) all the way to the target. Pretty cool.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:31 PM (MVjcR)

216 i apparently have an allergy to soy and it's byproducts...

not sure if it's a real allergy, or if my intestinal tract is just triggered.

that shit is in EVERYTHING!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 23, 2019 01:31 PM (yg2ia)

217 Under the proper conditions you can see that with
rifle bullets, too. It helps to be directly behind the shooter looking
through a spotting scope. You can often watch the bullet (really the
shock wave as you described) all the way to the target. Pretty cool.

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2019 01:31 PM (MVjcR)

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in the right lighting, you can actually SEE a 45ACP round go down range...

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 23, 2019 01:32 PM (yg2ia)

218 Garden gnomes, I mean NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 01:33 PM (ZCEU2)

219
Liszt took what are called the four minor orders: acolyte, porter, doorkeeper, and exorcist. He never received the major orders to become a priest.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2019 01:34 PM (7rVsF)

220 17 Grump: Roll Tide

Born here in Bama. Came back to die here someday.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at November 23, 2019 01:36 PM (ms2Wv)

221 216 i apparently have an allergy to soy and it's byproducts...

not sure if it's a real allergy, or if my intestinal tract is just triggered.

that shit is in EVERYTHING!
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 23, 2019 01:31 PM (yg2ia)

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Soy does a number on my gut also.

Going Keto has helped somewhat.

But yeah, it is in everything.

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 01:36 PM (RU4sa)

222 Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 01:36 PM (RU4sa)
*******
I have Celiac Disease

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 01:38 PM (BqBId)

223 Since there appeared to be some interest on the ONT.

Comprehensive News Report on China

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wMipdJGigM

Democrats and Republicans have done the unthinkable -- they worked
together! The Senate passed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act
and the PROTECT Hong Kong Act. Democrat Chuck Schumer ... agreeing with
Republican Ted Cruz! We live in a strange timeline. China was not too
happy. Especially since Senators also brought up the persecution of
Uighurs and the organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners. All the
bill need is for President Donald Trump to sign it into law.
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Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 23, 2019 01:38 PM (XzVUd)

224 Btw, hey y'all.

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 01:38 PM (RU4sa)

225 Luxuries, while fun, I find are often over rated and over priced.

Having a good surgeon is not over rated. Just had a discectomy (careful how you read that). Removed some troublesome stenosis as well. Hopefully I can put the walker away in a week or two and the pain goes away as well.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at November 23, 2019 01:39 PM (ZDSdL)

226 Sorry to hear that, DSDS.

That can't be fun.

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 01:40 PM (RU4sa)

227 Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at November 23, 2019 01:39 PM (ZDSdL)

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Amen, and prayers up for a continued recovery.

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 01:41 PM (RU4sa)

228 I've had signs recently that I'm getting allergic to dogs, too.
Posted by: Ladyl at November 23, 2019 01:28 PM (TdMsT)

KTE is allergic to cats and most breeds of dogs, except poodles and wheaten terriers so far.

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 01:45 PM (G546f)

229 prayers for your healing, NOT THAT GUY

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 01:47 PM (G546f)

230

Tom Steyer, a connected fascist mega-donor to Democrats, is pretending to run as an "outsider" to defeat the real outsider currently in the White House.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 23, 2019 01:49 PM (t6DA7)

231
Biden: I Hope Senators Trying Trump Realize They'll Go Down in History as to Whether They Followed Rules | Breitbart

The "rules" he's speaking of are the Democrats' Rules For Everyone Else.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 23, 2019 01:50 PM (t6DA7)

232 Can't wait to hear the weird **** the new media digs up on Steyer.

Posted by: klaftern at November 23, 2019 01:58 PM (RuIsu)

233 >>>[216] I apparently have an allergy to soy and its byproducts ... not sure if it's a real allergy, or if my intestinal tract is just triggered. That shit is in EVERYTHING!
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 23, 2019 01:31 PM (yg2ia)

Several companies make a soy-free sauce from the sap of coconut trees (Coconut Secrets, the brand I get at Target, is labeled Coconut Amino Acids). Our newest grandchild is very sensitive to soy -- even the small amount that passes through DIL's breastmilk -- so I have been using the Amino Acids to prepare both fresh and freezer meals for at least 6 months. DIL doesn't notice any difference in taste.

Posted by: Kathy at November 23, 2019 01:58 PM (q7uEm)

234 Posted by: Kathy at November 23, 2019 01:58 PM (q7uEm)

will try that

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 23, 2019 02:01 PM (G546f)

235 Any wealthy people--from the comfortably upper -middle class to the filthy mega rich --who likes to dabble in or proselytize for--"Recreational Marxism" should have all their wealth confiscated to see how committed they are.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 02:03 PM (CqE5x)

236 http://bit.ly/2OF1bUN
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Biden: I Hope Senators Trying Trump Realize They'll Go Down in History as to Whether They Followed Rules | Breitbart
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Sloe Joe Bidet sounds like he is shitting his adult diapers
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 01:08 PM (BqBId)

How is this not Biden engaging in trying to get his "rival" taken out?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 02:06 PM (CqE5x)

237 Just got home with a 24 pack of Krystal burgers steaming hot.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 23, 2019 02:13 PM (rMbRx)

238 in the right lighting, you can actually SEE a 45ACP round go down range...
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 23, 2019 01:32 PM (yg2ia)

They sell bullets now that have a luminescent coating on the back end. The intense flash of the powder burning charges up this coating, and it emits light brilliantly for a fraction of a second, long enough to follow it downrange. Not tracer bullet; no combustion going on, so not a fire hazard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 02:15 PM (/sgva)

239 I'm making this:

https://joyfilledeats.com/meatball-parm-casserole/

Having this for din-din, and the g-babies love this dish.

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 02:16 PM (RU4sa)

240 Not tracer bullet; no combustion going on, so not a fire hazard.

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Where's the fun in that??

Posted by: SMH at November 23, 2019 02:16 PM (RU4sa)

241 Especially since Senators also brought up the persecution of
Uighurs and the organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners. All the
bill need is for President Donald Trump to sign it into law.
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Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 23, 2019 01:38 PM (XzVUd)

Since the Uighurs are muslims, they'd have no problem persecuting infidel Chinese if they got the upper hand, so I find it hard to have sympathy for them. Falun Gong, OTOH, seem to pretty harmless.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2019 02:18 PM (/sgva)

242 Dog allergies are bs.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 23, 2019 02:19 PM (PUmDY)

243 201 Palerider

The FOIA doc dump is up at State, but can also be found at @almostjingo. Strange how groups on the right, like Judicial Watch, need to sue to get docs via FOIA, but left-wing groups get their requests filled immediately.

Posted by: Ever at November 23, 2019 02:29 PM (ZZDMQ)

244 Leftists protect their own

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 02:34 PM (ZCEU2)

245 Asking for prayers for my DIL, Angie.

She is in the hospital, with possible gall bladder removal and a bowel obstruction. In addition, this beautiful young woman has multiple, serious, auto immune diseases.
Posted by: Ladyl

Okay !

Posted by: JT at November 23, 2019 02:48 PM (arJlL)

246 Have Auburn and Alabama ever lost their silly end season cupcake joke games?

That's why the Big XII is lucky: they have an in-conference cupcake game against Kansas every season!

Posted by: Jayhawkone at November 23, 2019 02:49 PM (gIbIt)

247 Rumor is RBG was admitted to Hospital at 3 AM

Posted by: It's me donna at November 23, 2019 02:57 PM (6XlcD)

248
Rumor is RBG was admitted to Hospital at 3 AM

Posted by: It's me donna

Should've been the morgue.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 23, 2019 03:02 PM (t6DA7)

249 Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 23, 2019 01:38 PM (XzVUd)

Of course they did.

Its an empty virtue signal, just like the above post was talking about.

There is not a damn thing we can do about China and Hong Kong.

At this point? its like if the Chinese or Russians decided to help San Francisco be independent from the US.

The time to do something was BEFORE the Brits handed Hong Kong over to China.

Now, as much as we will wring our hands about the treatment of Hong Kong citizens, short of WAR with China? Not a dang thing we can do but send virtue signals.

Which this is.

Posted by: Don Q at November 23, 2019 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

250 Someone record some fake radio announcements that Warren has won the 2020 election and get it played in RBG's hospital room.

That was a mystery story I read once. Terminal ill husband was hanging on until Xmas or something and their life insurance would expire at that time leaving her needing to keep the house (clause in will that she couldn't sell it, had to live there or it went to boyscouts). Wife tears pages off the calendar early so he quits clinging on and she gleefully imagines the boy scouts rampaging thru the house while she enjoys life in a condo.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 23, 2019 03:10 PM (n4y+3)

251 Gab says, "Jerry Chun Shing Lee is the third former U.S. intelligence officer to be convicted in less than a year of conspiring with the Chinese."

All of these people, in today's various problematic agencies, don't have (here it comes) common surnames.

Posted by: Alias Smith and Jones at November 23, 2019 03:11 PM (Gqta/)

252 "Short Skirt" tribute to Emma Peel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idtYckLIZnI

Posted by: Braenyard at November 23, 2019 03:15 PM (Gqta/)

253 Rumor is RBG was admitted to Hospital at 3 AM

Posted by: It's me donna

Should've been the morgue.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 23, 2019 03:02 PM (t6DA7)

Comrade Secretary ~~Andropov~~ Ginsberg has a mild cold and will be better soon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 23, 2019 03:17 PM (YKkIU)

254 Comrade Secretary Andropov Ginsberg has a mild cold and will be better soon
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 23, 2019 03:17 PM (YKkIU)
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Notice every other time she went to hospital it was announced

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 03:27 PM (BqBId)

255 nothing new on RBG in a Bing search

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 23, 2019 03:32 PM (yg2ia)

256 Her rib cancer was acting up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 03:36 PM (825RR)

257 In all seriousness, though, I feel bad for her. It's all she has. It's her only true love. Family and grandkids, and she can't leave the court because the place she urinates from (well, used to) was so meaningful to her that she wanted someone who urinated similarly to appoint another similarly qualified justice. And now she has to rot there instead of napping on the couch at her grandkids' home.

It's not going to make me stop making fun of her as a politician (and she very much is), but it's tragic to see that happen to a human.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 03:43 PM (825RR)

258 Now, as much as we will wring our hands about the
treatment of Hong Kong citizens, short of WAR with China? Not a dang
thing we can do but send virtue signals.

Which this is.

Posted by: Don Q at November 23, 2019 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

The war already started.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-ZcsymQ2fQ

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 23, 2019 03:50 PM (XzVUd)

259 Rumor is RBG was admitted to Hospital at 3 AM

Posted by: It's me donna

Did Hillary accept the 3 AM call?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 03:53 PM (CqE5x)

260 If RBG is finally at the end, all Hell is going to break loose.

If they have a "sudden' impeachment vote, that would be the tell--this way they could claim that "an impeached president has no right to appoint judges."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 03:56 PM (CqE5x)

261 If they have a "sudden' impeachment vote, that would be the tell--this way they could claim that "an impeached president has no right to appoint judges."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 03:56 PM (CqE5x)

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Yep. I think that's what it's all about, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Chick-fil-A is hoping the left eats them last at November 23, 2019 04:02 PM (825RR)

262
Rudy Giuliani
I discovered a pattern of corruption that the Washington press covered up for years!

I'm also going to bring out a massive pay-for-play scheme under the Obama Administration that will devastate the Democrat Party.

Do you honestly think I'm intimidated?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 04:22 PM (BqBId)

263 Jack Posobie

@JackPosobiec

BLIND ITEM: This top decider you all know was seen checking in to Georgetown Hospital last night at 3am. Prayers up

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 04:27 PM (BqBId)

264 Jack Posobie

@JackPosobiec

BLIND ITEM: This top decider you all know was seen checking in to Georgetown Hospital last night at 3am. Prayers up

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 04:27 PM (BqBId)

Who says it's RBG?
Maybe it's W--wasn't he the "Decider" or something

Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 04:29 PM (CqE5x)

265
Who says it's RBG?
Maybe it's W--wasn't he the "Decider" or something
Posted by: JoeF. at November 23, 2019 04:29 PM (CqE5x)
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W doesn't live in D.C.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 04:39 PM (BqBId)

266 I'm a horrible person but think this time I'm saving that prayer.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 04:45 PM (ZCEU2)

267 And have been all around looking for some news, didn't see one thing about 3am hospital trips.

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 04:46 PM (ZCEU2)

268 Nothing comes up about any recent hospital trips

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 04:48 PM (ZCEU2)

269 Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2019 04:48 PM (ZCEU2)
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Exactly !! all the other times they publicized it, she had end stage cancer

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 23, 2019 05:07 PM (BqBId)

270 2.5 Million Hilton Points to "SLEEP WITH THE FISHES?"

Posted by: saf at November 23, 2019 06:28 PM (5IHGB)

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