To the Democrats Marie, Not Elise, was yesterday's star [KT]

Good morning! I ran across some additional takes to add to Ace's posts from yesterday, regarding how these two women were treated at yesterday's hearing. The hearing was an amazing political exercise. Not in a good way.

Ace sets the stage:

Schiff has made up New Rules -- unilaterally -- that the only Republicans permitted to ask questions are Devin Nunes and a staffer who I think is named Castor. A source says Castor is a good lawyer, but people are telling me he's coming off as a real blank on TV.
And Schiff made up a rule saying that he would be one of the only two people to question "Masha" Yavonovich, the former Obama-holdover ambassador to Ukraine fired by Trump. . .
When Nunes moved to yield his time to Ellie Stafanovic, Adam Schiff and his Ten Inch Neck started banging the gavel to shut her up.

Meanwhile:

Nunes questions why Yavonovich is even a witness -- she has absolutely no knowledge of these Impeachable Phone Calls we keep hearing about.
The only reason she was called by Democrats is so that she can Appeal to Women with her Sad Stories about how Sad she was when Trump fired her.

Sharyl Attkisson

One question I'd like to have seen asked: "If Ukraine's new president distrusts U.S. Ambassador-- rightly or wrongly-- should that person stay in the position? Or for the good of the US, should she be replaced with someone who can have a productive relationship?"

Legal Insurrection has a nice piece on Elise Stefanik's part in the hearings, as well as some background on her district. William Jacobson mentions "stardom". There are several video clips included at the link. "I can watch these videos over and over. And probably will."

Nunes made a good choice in choosing her to speak, I think. First a quote:

President Obama's own State Department was so concerned about potential conflicts of interest from Hunter Biden's role at Burisma that they raised it themselves while prepping this wonderful Ambassador nominee before her confirmation. And yet our Democratic colleagues and the Chairman of this Committee cry foul when we dare ask that same question that the Obama State Department was so concerned about.

No wonder Schiff wanted to shut her up. Andrew Klavan: Nevertheless, she persisted.

Jacobson, about her district:

For those of you who go way back with Legal Insurrection, NY-21 was a hot topic here in 2009 when Republican infighting and subterfuge handed the seat to Democrat Bill Owens in a Special Election defeat of conservative candidate Doug Hoffman. It was more important to state Republicans that a Tea Party insurgent lose than that Republicans hold the seat. Owens barely hung on to the seat in 2010 and 2012, but chose not to run for reelection in the 2014 cycle.
Stefanik won the seat in 2014, at age 30. At the time, the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. Stefanik has won re-election pretty easily every since.

At the hearing:

First, she took on Schiff. But because she's Republican, Schiff received media cheers not scorn for trying to shut her up.
She took Schiff to the woodshed over his flip flop on having the so-called Whistleblower testify. . .
She score a substantive home run by pointing out that the Obama administration was concerned about Hunter Biden's actions in Ukraine, so much so that she was prepped on the subject in advance of her Senate confirmation hearings. So why, she asked, is it wrong when Republicans to have the same concerns about Hunter Biden that the Obama administration had?

And John Hayward pointed this out about part of the former ambassador's actual testimony:

Boy, it's a good thing giving false testimony to Congress isn't a crime when Democrats do it, or Yovanovitch could be in some really hot water here.

Back to Ace and the Ambassadors as Superheroes theme.

It was reported in The Hill that the vacuous Yovanovitch testimony had given the Democrats a new burst of momentum.

Oh, and Trump engaging in witness intimidation, to make the witness cry.

There was witness intimidation today, but it was not done by President Trump.
The only one who intimidated a witness was Adam Schiff. He's the one who brought up Trump's tweet to Maria Yovanavitch DURING HER testimony, pressuring & questioning her into making it a big deal.

Let's relax a little

Steven Hayward with the week in pictures, Hearsay Edition.

Hope you have a good weekend.

Remember, this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:45 AM

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1 ?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:48 AM (ECrgQ)

2 Wait, this has been up for 4 minutes and no one is here?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:48 AM (ECrgQ)

3 Okay. I'll go call the Corgis.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:48 AM (ECrgQ)

4 Now to read the content. Anything to keep from going out to do chores....

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:49 AM (ECrgQ)

5 Thread Before the Gardening Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:50 AM (oGXG7)

6 Where is everyone?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:51 AM (ECrgQ)

7 5 Thread Before the Gardening Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:50 AM (oGXG7)
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I'm here!

Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:52 AM (oGXG7)

8 Thread before actually getting something done today . .

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 16, 2019 11:52 AM (TF0Fi)

9 This makes me weepy.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 11:52 AM (EgshT)

10 I love winter farming.

Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:53 AM (oGXG7)

11 Hi, weasel!!! You make all the difference!!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:53 AM (ECrgQ)

12 So why, she asked, is it wrong when Republicans to have the same concerns about Hunter Biden that the Obama administration had?

******

Same issue, but different concerns.

The Obama crowd was concerned the Biden corruption would be made public. While the Repubs in the hearing were concerned it would not.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 11:54 AM (m45I2)

13 I love winter farming.
Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:53 AM (oGXG7)

Well, then, that makes one of you.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 11:54 AM (ECrgQ)

14 Once again Linn - on it! Nice.

Mentioned by JakeStraw below, AG Barr at the Federalist Society.

https://youtu.be/8NdbANrjFWE

Awesome.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 11:55 AM (Y4EXg)

15 Here!

Waiting for the afternoon games to start up. For me, Penn State at noon, then Va Tech at 3:30. Lots of channel surfing of other games too.

Posted by: Puddleglum, a New Soviet Virginian at November 16, 2019 11:57 AM (68Eft)

16 I love winter farming.
Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:53 AM (oGXG7)

Well, then, that makes one of you.
Posted by: Linn Ridge

About like that one year I put out winter rye to try to get grass under the tree in the front yard.

I was the only idiot mowing in January.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2019 11:58 AM (dEvh1)

17 Hey, TonyPete. I'm just trying any excuse to keep from going outside into the cold. Because once I get the chores done, I have to get into the attic to move/rewire the living room lights.

None of which sounds like any fun at all.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:00 PM (ECrgQ)

18 Game of the day is MN @ Iowa. Go Gophers!

Posted by: Zeera BMGG Books Make Great Gifts at November 16, 2019 12:00 PM (zUdXR)

19 I served as a Medical Officer in the Army for 13 years. While my service was honorable there is no way on earth that I would attempt to equate it with the service of those heroic men and women who actually stood in harm's way at risk to life and limb. For this State Department employee (who, as an ambassador, enjoyed the highest level of U.S. protection during her overseas postings) to drape herself in the fabric of actual heroes while sabotaging POTUS is about as despicable as I can imagine.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:00 PM (m45I2)

20 Lady, if you were so great on corruption issues why did Zelensky run on an anti-corruption platform and win big?

Posted by: Doc Deplorable at November 16, 2019 12:00 PM (bJmbC)

21
Democrats are the Borderline Personality Disorder party.

The crazy-makers will attempt to manipulate with tears, guilt, scorn and frothing, spitting rage from behind an impenetrable shield of self-unawareness.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 16, 2019 12:01 PM (t9cBK)

22 After watching some of this yesterday and hearing the media crickets this morning, my disgust and contempt of the media just grows.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 12:02 PM (axyOa)

23 Because once I get the chores done, I have to get into the attic to move/rewire the living room lights.

None of which sounds like any fun at all.
Posted by: Linn Ridge

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Wow, I didn't know the entrance exam to becoming an 'ette included residential wiring.

I redid my kitchen wiring awhile back - coming up is the Master Bath. ugh.

Good luck!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 12:02 PM (Y4EXg)

24 And yet, it's never announced, 'Remember, this is the thread after the Gardening Thread'.

This is conclusive proof of ~~collusion~~ ~~obstruction~~ bribery.

Posted by: Adam Schiff at November 16, 2019 12:02 PM (xSo9G)

25 Game of the day is MN @ Iowa. Go Gophers!

******

Go Go boots >> Go Go phers

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:03 PM (m45I2)

26 For this State Department employee (who, as an ambassador, enjoyed the highest level of U.S. protection during her overseas postings) to drape herself in the fabric of actual heroes while sabotaging POTUS is about as despicable as I can imagine.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:00 PM (m45I2)

***

Absolutely concur.
This woman is the Ugly American.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 12:03 PM (axyOa)

27 Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 12:02 PM (Y4EXg)

How goes the raising o' the grandkids?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:04 PM (ECrgQ)

28 She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:05 PM (m45I2)

29 I'm a hero hear me roar.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 12:05 PM (EgshT)

30

I wonder at what point the good people of Spain 1936 and Chile 1973 finally said enough is enough?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2019 12:06 PM (jp9oL)

31 Greetings:

She's not the one that jumped out of the birthday cake on board an aircraft carrier in that Steven Segal movie, is she ???

Posted by: 11B40 at November 16, 2019 12:06 PM (evgyj)

32 28 She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".
Posted by: Muldoon

A spear of Nerf

Posted by: Puddleglum, a New Soviet Virginian at November 16, 2019 12:06 PM (68Eft)

33 The week in pictures thread is full of glorious hilarity.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 16, 2019 12:06 PM (W+kMI)

34 it feels like sunday.

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:08 PM (Pg+x7)

35 SO, about that global climate change turning the USA into a giant desert... This week Ohio has had days all with below-freezing temperatures, and we got 1-3 inches of snow across the state. The only desert the watermelons and progtards can see is the one they're making in California.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 16, 2019 12:09 PM (W+kMI)

36 This Marie Yovonovith reminds me of 80% of Peace Corp volunteers I
met when I did my stint with them. On the whole they were extremely
liberal, well credentialed, well traveled, did very little useful work
but were sure they were saving the world and they were Gods gift to the
American public. who they were often contemptuous of. They all wanted a job with the Federal govt after
finishing their "service" and the foreign service was considered the
best of all worlds. They will tell you how hard they worked and
suffered in their dangerous, but vital jobs but this is rarely the case.

Locals
were rarely impressed by volunteers, although they often found them amusing
and we always called Peace Corps the longest vacation you can never
leave because of the large amount of, um, extracurricular activities. At the end of service we went to a resume and job hunting seminar
where we were told how to frame our extended vacation to sound like it
was very important work. Heard a lot of those buzzwords yesterday from
Yovonovitch

I would not be the least bit surprised to find Yovonvicth did a couple years with Peace Corps before starting her illustrious career of public service

Posted by: Ripley at November 16, 2019 12:09 PM (MxEKc)

37 31 Greetings:

She's not the one that jumped out of the birthday cake on board an aircraft carrier in that Steven Segal movie, is she ???
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Alas, no, that would've made for a more interesting testimony.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 16, 2019 12:10 PM (W+kMI)

38
For this State Department employee (who, as an ambassador, enjoyed the highest level of U.S. protection during her overseas postings) to drape herself in the fabric of actual heroes while sabotaging POTUS is about as despicable as I can imagine.
Posted by: Muldoon

Why, she puts Alvin York and Audie Murphy to shame!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 12:11 PM (aKsyK)

39 >>She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".

This whole process has been quite illuminating. For years, many of us have been warning about the dangers of the administrative state aka Deep State. We were routinely mocked by the "smart set" for being conspiracy theorists.

They've now moved to openly bragging that they really run things and our votes are not to be taken seriously. Over and over we hear from these geniuses that they were just trying to implement US foreign policy and not what Trump wanted done.

The dysfunction is now in the open for all who choose to see it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

40 Does anyone know why Mega Keating McEatingDisorder leveled such a bitter tweet at Roger Stone yesterday? I know that she inherited her big mouth and stupidity from her dumbass father, but surely her homewrecking mother has given her some clue that the family reputation is about to go deep in the shitter and that she should dial back on spiteful tweets.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 12:12 PM (y7DUB)

41 16 I love winter farming.
Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 11:53 AM (oGXG7)

Well, then, that makes one of you.
Posted by: Linn Ridge

About like that one year I put out winter rye to try to get grass under the tree in the front yard.

I was the only idiot mowing in January.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2019 11:58 AM (dEvh1)
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You're doing it wrong! My morning chores involved sitting in the sun drinking coffee and smoking a cigar and watching the deer.

Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 12:12 PM (oGXG7)

42 You're doing it wrong! My morning chores involved sitting in the sun drinking coffee and smoking a cigar and watching the deer.
Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2019 12:12 PM (oGXG7)

I bow to the master.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:13 PM (ECrgQ)

43 Hiya weasel!
Smooch!

My morning has consisted of drinking coffee, looking out the window and packing my bag to go to the range with Mark and a nube.

I'm having some nerve issues in the web of my thumb on my shooting hand. Any thoughts?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 12:14 PM (PkVlr)

44 since it's noon, here's a question: why is it called noon?

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:14 PM (Pg+x7)

45 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 16, 2019 12:15 PM (arJlL)

46 >>Does anyone know why Mega Keating McEatingDisorder leveled such a bitter tweet at Roger Stone yesterday?

Incidents like this probably contributed. Stone hated McCain and wasn't shy about it.

https://tinyurl.com/ybg6bc5e

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)

47 since it's noon, here's a question: why is it called noon?
Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:14 PM (Pg+x7)

Asked no on, ever

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)

48 I see the Mullahs in Tehran just doubled the price of gasoline. The locals aren't happy. Keep squeezing, Donny Two Scoops.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 16, 2019 12:17 PM (jp0Bv)

49 since it's noon, here's a question: why is it called noon?
Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:14 PM (Pg+x7)

Two twelve o'clocks: one with a moon and one with a...noon.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:18 PM (ECrgQ)

50 She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".

Cowabunga.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 12:18 PM (EgshT)

51 Posted by: Ripley at November 16, 2019 12:09 PM (MxEKc)

I was a VISTA volunteer after getting my undergraduate degree, mainly because I was still fairly aimless. What a fucking waste of time that was. All I was was a body in a staffing report for some scam organization to maximize the grift. I hated every second of it but the people I held in greatest contempt were the people that wanted in afterward on the pyramid scheme.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 12:18 PM (y7DUB)

52 >>since it's noon, here's a question: why is it called noon?

nona

Latin

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:18 PM (ZLI7S)

53 Linn - it all went pretty well this week. They are back home today. Their mother is po'd with me as I wouldn't take them for their regularly schedule eyebrow waxing appointment this week.

For heaven's sake, they're 6 and 11. They don't want it, their mom does. It's all the rage with the 'cool' moms I guess.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 12:19 PM (Y4EXg)

54 My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Trump order a Quid Pro Quo at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Posted by: Simone, Star Witness for the Democrats at November 16, 2019 12:19 PM (jp0Bv)

55 The one question I would have like to seen ask

"Amb. Vonawitch, what do your feelings have to do with the matter at hand ?"

"nothing, I guess"

and the follow up

"So why do you think the POS dims keep asking you about your feelings, Amb Vonawitch ?"

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:19 PM (rpxSz)

56 Tell her you're trying to uphold their social standing. Everyone who's anyone does threading now. Duh.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:21 PM (ECrgQ)

57 answer: even though the roots for "noon" go back to old english, its origin is latin, not anglo-salon. but why not midi (french for noon) or something like that, arising from meridiem, the latin word for noon?

noon comes from nones, the ninth hour after dawn, or 3:00. over about two hundred years during the 12th to 14th centuries the time gradually went to 12:00, or noon.

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:21 PM (Pg+x7)

58 She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".
Posted by: Muldoon
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I've related this before. Once I was staying at an old in which overlooks the Potomac, at Harper's Ferry.

Some of the rooms were in an external building. Walking up to the inn for dinner, I saw an assemblage of people in what can only be described as costumes. Mostly kaftans, brightly colored. One had a 'crown' fashioned from crepe paper and tinfoil.

They were youngish, in their 20's. Well, naturally, I stopped and asked what was going on. The guy I spoke to told me that they were doing State Department training.

M spontaneous response was, 'Heh, I suspected this had something to do with my tax dollars."

The guy cracked up, and immediately shared the comment with his compatriots. Ha, ha, ha.

THAT is my only contact with the State Department, clowns-in-training. Well, aside from that investigator...but that's another story.

I mean this is the agency of Hillary, and 'You've Got a Friend' Kerry

Posted by: Adam Schiff at November 16, 2019 12:21 PM (CDGwz)

59 I really wish someone had asked, "is being an ambassador a lifetime appointment?" "What happened to the previous ambassador to the Ukraine?" "Did they die?" "Oh they were fired you say?"

Posted by: Sgt_H at November 16, 2019 12:22 PM (dzvb3)

60 >since it's noon, here's a question: why is it called noon?

"noon" is short for "nooner"

otherwise known as "lunch"

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:23 PM (rpxSz)

61 Ugh. Fat fingered. Drop a character here, pick one up there.

Posted by: Adam Schiff at November 16, 2019 12:23 PM (CDGwz)

62 For those looking for a Kilroy version of the EDKH meme, see the comments at the Hearsay Edition link.

Commenter's name is Ben Dover ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 16, 2019 12:23 PM (XzVUd)

63 Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:23 PM (rpxSz)

I like the way you think!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:24 PM (ECrgQ)

64 Jeebers. /Schiff

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 16, 2019 12:24 PM (CDGwz)

65 Incidents like this probably contributed. Stone hated McCain and wasn't shy about it.

https://tinyurl.com/ybg6bc5e
Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)

LOL. I'm sure that sent Mega on another buffet leveling binge. He may have crashed the party but I don't see a single inaccurate thing written about the Admiral's worthless brat.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 12:25 PM (y7DUB)

66 ... i thought that was interesting.

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:25 PM (Pg+x7)

67 ... never mind.

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:25 PM (Pg+x7)

68 >>I really wish someone had asked, "is being an ambassador a lifetime appointment?" "What happened to the previous ambassador to the Ukraine?" "Did they die?" "Oh they were fired you say?"

Not fired, unfortunately. Transferred.

Geoffrey Pyatt was the ambassador to Ukraine before Yovanovitch. He was made ambassador to Greece in May 2016.

He's at least as bad if not worse than Yovanovitch.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:26 PM (ZLI7S)

69 I really don't understand the point of her. Ambassador's come and go, if she can't implement Trump's policy she shouldn't be there. I know Trump wasn't a political animal and didn't have all the connections in line for Ambassadors, but not replacing all of them from the outset was a mistake.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 12:26 PM (r+sAi)

70 who knows captain, maybe she had low sugar, I imagine she she must have been staring daggers at elise Stefanik, yesterday,

Posted by: gaius martius at November 16, 2019 12:27 PM (hMlTh)

71 Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:25 PM (Pg+x7)

I did, too. Why did noon move from 3 to 12?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:27 PM (ECrgQ)

72 Why did noon move from 3 to 12?

*******

Daylight Savings Time

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:28 PM (m45I2)

73 no one knows

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:29 PM (Pg+x7)

74 Woot!! Just got my new issue of Garden and Gun!! Back later, all!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (ECrgQ)

75 I did, too. Why did noon move from 3 to 12?<<<<<<
3 is a long time to wait for lunch. I get hungry.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (r+sAi)

76 "I was a VISTA volunteer after getting my
undergraduate degree, mainly because I was still fairly aimless. What a
fucking waste of time that was. All I was was a body in a staffing
report for some scam organization to maximize the grift. I hated every
second of it but the people I held in greatest contempt were the people
that wanted in afterward on the pyramid scheme.

Posted by: Captain Hat"

Despite its drawbacks, I actually enjoyed my time in the Peace Corps, had a lot of great adventures in remote third world country and, unlike most volunteers, managed to do some useful work, probably because I was older and actually had some work experience. Overall though, PC it is a huge waste of taxpayer money and make-work for more govt employees, just a useful foot in the door for permanent govt "service" Everything I heard about VISTA (AmeriCorps) is far worse and more blatantly politicized.

Posted by: Ripley at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (MxEKc)

77 big donors get cushy ambassadorships ... but in Ukraine, which was grifter central, they needed a duly cooperative DeepStater ... to cover the crimes.

Tip of the Spear ... sure, for the DS Cartel ... they are the public front at least, for bribery by Burisma and bad banks, to get the US support. But the military is the spear, which when yielded by Obama, stands down and offers Russia Crimea.

A military guy on Tucker last night said a big problem was these Obama apparatchiks wanted to push Ukraine into NATO. He said that becomes a real threat to Russia, who (while weak, not dead) might not stand down, but might actually become more hostile. And Obama was fine with the US funding NATO on the EUs behalf.

I don't have any comprehensive view on the region, but the globalist grifters want to make the money, while the US goes deeper in debt being global policeman on their behalf. Trump wants these nation states to be allies, but to stand on their own. (our trade policies would support that, as we decouple from China)

This would apply to S Korea, Japan, Israel/Sauds/Jordan/Egypt ... we step back from the front lines, but retain superpower command and control, emphasis on everyone pulling their own weight, retaining their sovereignty. That means the grifter machine doesn't get to use our military as their private hit man ... as seems to have happened with Soros/Burisma and the Ukraine coup. but it is foggy to me ...

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (Cus5s)

78 or

no, no-one knows noon.

Posted by: mjc at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (Pg+x7)

79 If you have any interest in how the public servant lives in Ukraine, google a picture of her house. Disgusting!

Posted by: Chillin the most at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (lonOK)

80 Mostly kaftans, brightly colored. One had a 'crown' fashioned from crepe paper and tinfoil...State Department training.

********

Peculiar. Some type of model UN role-playing thing?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:31 PM (m45I2)

81 77 ... to cover UP the crimes.

FIFY

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 16, 2019 12:32 PM (XzVUd)

82 I like the way you think!
Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 16, 2019 12:24 PM (ECrgQ)

completely instinctual

but thanks

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:33 PM (rpxSz)

83
I see the Mullahs in Tehran just doubled the price of gasoline. The locals aren't happy. Keep squeezing, Donny Two Scoops.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 16, 2019 12:17 PM (jp0Bv)

Iran imposed gasoline rationing and raised pump prices by at least 50 percent Friday, saying the move aims to help the needy with cash handouts and is not due to a budget deficit.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2019 12:33 PM (pmvZo)

84 None of you know the struggle of serving your country at a lonely diplomatic outpost with the specter of running out of roe hanging over your head every day.... only to be summarily fired and have to suffer through a 6 figure salary as a fellow at Georgetown. This woman has sacrificed for her country like none other, and you have the gall to violently attack her in these comments! For shame!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 16, 2019 12:33 PM (f/PM+)

85 I did, too. Why did noon move from 3 to 12?

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The sundial's batteries were dead?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 12:34 PM (Y4EXg)

86 China wins the propaganda war:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ErIRL6RA0o

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 16, 2019 12:35 PM (XzVUd)

87 "There I was. Knee deep in the caviar..."

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)

88 >>This would apply to S Korea, Japan, Israel/Sauds/Jordan/Egypt ... we step back from the front lines, but retain superpower command and control, emphasis on everyone pulling their own weight, retaining their sovereignty. That means the grifter machine doesn't get to use our military as their private hit man ... as seems to have happened with Soros/Burisma and the Ukraine coup. but it is foggy to me ...

I'd say you're pretty spot on.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:36 PM (ZLI7S)

89 but it is foggy to me ...

******

...we need a career diplomat to get to the Bottom of it.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:38 PM (m45I2)

90 Posted by: Ripley at November 16, 2019 12:30 PM (MxEKc)

You aren't the first person to point out the differences between the two organizations. Glad your experience was better than mine, which ultimately didn't hurt me in the long run.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 12:39 PM (y7DUB)

91 A military guy on Tucker last night said a big problem was these Obama apparatchiks wanted to push Ukraine into NATO.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: The Poles and the Czechs at November 16, 2019 12:40 PM (EgshT)

92 The writer Erica Jong's daughter whose last name escapes me (Molly?) but whose last name is Jong-Fast, wailed on Twitter that Elise Stefanik was so very disrespectful, and that everybody should donate to the Democrat running against her for Congress. Disrespectful? Schiff is a rude clown. If the Democrats didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2019 12:41 PM (WI7YS)

93 Elise Stefanik is a rock star, and it helps that's she's kinda hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp, Robach Didn't Kill Herself at November 16, 2019 12:41 PM (bkUtD)

94 92-Sorry; Make that "first name" escapes me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2019 12:42 PM (WI7YS)

95 I wish someone made a truffled queso

guess I could make my own

note to Mrs REDACTED

pick up a black truffle and more chanterelles

next time you're in NYC

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:42 PM (rpxSz)

96 The democrats live in their own, alternate reality now. They reinvent it daily, and add or subtract history as need be. There is no more worrying over form, civility, the future. There won't be a future unless we destroy them, utterly. No mercy. No quarter given. Sadly, there is no other way. Come to grips with that.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 16, 2019 12:42 PM (Fxgkp)

97 yes her grandpa was the commie apparatchik howard fast, momma screwed anything that moved and some that didn't, the bulwinkle is an intriguing artefact,

Posted by: gaius martius at November 16, 2019 12:43 PM (hMlTh)

98 >>> the bulwinkle is an intriguing artefact

Nothing up my sleeve... Presto!

Posted by: Bullwinkle at November 16, 2019 12:44 PM (VWp7G)

99 molly jong fast, I was referring to,

Posted by: gaius martius at November 16, 2019 12:44 PM (hMlTh)

100 Aaaarghpeachment!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 16, 2019 12:44 PM (NMAzL)

101 As an Army Intelligence guy, I spent a little time in and around embassies. Glad I was never assigned to one. My colleagues who were hated it.
Tip of the Spear Bullsh*t!!! They mostly worked at making sure the Congress and Senate wives got in on all the good shopping and best places to eat.
The guys who did the real work were in the basement doing 18 hour days and were mostly ignored by the foggy bottom asshats.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 12:45 PM (axyOa)

102 Posted by: gaius martius at November 16, 2019 12:43 PM (hMlTh)

Well, if it's the Howard Fast I'm thinking of he did write some interesting historical novels.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2019 12:45 PM (WI7YS)

103 Iran imposed gasoline rationing and raised pump prices by at least 50 percent Friday, saying the move aims to help the needy with cash handouts and is not due to a budget deficit.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2019 12:33 PM (pmvZo)

"the needy" HAH! The only group getting cash handouts are regime thugs and supporters. It looks like a good sign of just how bad things are inside Iran; they're making a move that they KNOW is going to piss off almost everyone, just to be able to keep paying their Goon Squads. That's Bad King John and Robin Hood territory there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 12:45 PM (trdmm)

104 Tater's on, filling his depends

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:46 PM (rpxSz)

105 This is nothing more than a choreographed, taxpayer-paid DNC campaign commercial aimed at stupid women. Congressional Dems haven't accomplished a single thing for years so instead they put on a soap opera.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2019 12:46 PM (BJKQV)

106 Yes; Marie wouldn't even have known about the tweet until later unless Schiff hadn't brought it up. If there was intimidation HE did it. Good point!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2019 12:47 PM (WI7YS)

107 "There I was. Knee deep in the caviar..."

A horrible and traumatic experience. I've walked a kilometer in your shoes.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 12:49 PM (EgshT)

108 testy....Ve are NOT allowed to point out inciveeenient facts

Posted by: Permaculture Pete at November 16, 2019 12:49 PM (Fxgkp)

109 As an Army Intelligence guy, I spent a little time in and around embassies...
Posted by: Diogenes

*******

As an itinerant smart-ass I'm tempted to make the obligatory "Army Intelligence, isn't that an oxymoron?" joke, but will forgo that and instead say, "Thanks for your service"

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:49 PM (m45I2)

110 The best embassy job I've heard about is in the Czhekh Republic, iirc, just outside of Prague. Not a lot for the Ambassador to do, but the Ambassador's Official Residence is a 100 room 18th Century Chateau, which comes with a full time personal staff of 20. It's like living in the house on Downton Abbey. (Somehow the US ended up with title to it)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 12:49 PM (trdmm)

111 Even never-trumper Mirengoff at Powerline dumps all over Yovanovich. Check it out.

(But don't call Mirengoff a never-trumper, or they'll ban you. Mirengoff burned his fingers by writing something perfectly sensible about a Sainted Tribal Elder Amerind's blather a few years ago, and so he is a bit careful not to offend the SJWs since then.)

Posted by: gp, Charg� d'Affaires du Chat at November 16, 2019 12:50 PM (mk9aG)

112 Finally, Barr speaks

Posted by: Permaculture Pete at November 16, 2019 12:50 PM (Fxgkp)

113 I want to see Stefanik drive a stake through the chest of that worthless lying sack of Bantha podo named Schiff.

Mirengof [sp?] is impossible to read whenever Trump comes up. He is in bed with David French and David Brooks.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 12:50 PM (EsKTB)

114 Noon Noon

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 12:50 PM (aKsyK)

115 E. Indians cleaning up the beaches

Maybe they should start with the banks of the Ganges

don't have the link but NBC reporter throws up on camera

walking the banks of the Ganges

crappy situation

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:51 PM (rpxSz)

116 >>As an Army Intelligence guy, I spent a little time in and around embassies. Glad I was never assigned to one. My colleagues who were hated it.
Tip of the Spear Bullsh*t!!! They mostly worked at making sure the Congress and Senate wives got in on all the good shopping and best places to eat.
The guys who did the real work were in the basement doing 18 hour days and were mostly ignored by the foggy bottom asshats.

What was going on at the Ukraine embassy during the Obama years was a bit more nefarious. To a large degree, Ukraine was being run from that embassy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:52 PM (ZLI7S)

117 true he did write Spartacus, and some of his san Francisco series was interesting, but the message was paramount,

Posted by: gaius martius at November 16, 2019 12:52 PM (hMlTh)

118 HS football shooting

It's against the law to shoot a football

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 12:52 PM (rpxSz)

119 As an itinerant smart-ass I'm tempted to make the obligatory "Army Intelligence, isn't that an oxymoron?" joke, but will forgo that and instead say, "Thanks for your service"
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:49 PM (m45I2)

---

Army Intel is very much an oxymoron.

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 12:52 PM (RU4sa)

120 As a note, the American embassy and consulate in the third world shit-hole I worked in was by far the most secure, safest place in the whole country. Multiple layers of security and even American citizens with a problem needed appointments to get in. After dealing with them a few times I decided contacting the embassy was the last thing I would ever do in case of emergency.

But yeah, Tip of the Spear.

Posted by: Ripley at November 16, 2019 12:53 PM (MxEKc)

121 As an itinerant smart-ass I'm tempted to make the obligatory "Army Intelligence, isn't that an oxymoron?" joke, but will forgo that and instead say, "Thanks for your service"
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:49 PM (m45I2)

**smiles**

Right back at cha.
By the way, did you know an Army doctor with the nickname of Doc Nicky "The Knuckle"?
Hated that bastard.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 12:53 PM (axyOa)

122 I got to work with a ArNG MI battalion briefly. They were not the sharpest crayons in the box.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 12:54 PM (EsKTB)

123 lol Anna

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 12:54 PM (RU4sa)

124 The worst night of my life was when I realized that I had no choice but to command those poor Russian hookers to pee on that bed. I did it for my country.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 12:55 PM (EgshT)

125 By the way, did you know an Army doctor with the nickname of Doc Nicky "The Knuckle"?
Hated that bastard.

*******

Let me guess. Prostate exam?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:55 PM (m45I2)

126 Tom Servo, I have a very good friend who worked at the Embassy in Prague for several years. I was able to visit a couple times. Beautiful site and compound and in a great city.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 12:56 PM (axyOa)

127 *pauses*

Oh kami...

Schiff is Ahab. Trump is the great orange whale.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 12:57 PM (EsKTB)

128 125 By the way, did you know an Army doctor with the nickname of Doc Nicky "The Knuckle"?
Hated that bastard.

*******

Let me guess. Prostate exam?
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:55 PM (m45I2)

That was Jimmy "The Fist".

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 12:57 PM (trdmm)

129 It's 2019. Person to person assinbassadors are so obsolete, 19th century bush league psych out stuff.

Close all our embassies and just have a call center out of India respond to any calls from foreign shit holes.

Save time, money and lives.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 16, 2019 12:57 PM (Z+IKu)

130 If Carolyn Kennedy can be an ambassador, then anyone can.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 12:58 PM (EsKTB)

131 Let me guess. Prostate exam?
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:55 PM (m45I2)

More like a prostate roter-rooting.
And then afterwards he never called. He never wrote.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 12:59 PM (axyOa)

132 If Carolyn Kennedy can be an ambassador, then anyone can.

Once I taught her Pig Latin, she did quite well.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 01:00 PM (EgshT)

133 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxIOFVI98ww

How Bolivia overthrew Evo Morales

Podcast with: Protest leader Jhanisse Vaca-Daza

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 16, 2019 01:01 PM (XzVUd)

134 "Once I taught her Pig Latin, she did quite well."

Was she ambassador to Ancient Pig-Rome?

Posted by: gp, Chargay d'Affaires du Chat at November 16, 2019 01:02 PM (mk9aG)

135 JS, did you see the Serhiy Leshchenko whine-tweet to Jim Jordan demanding he stop including his name, when discussing Nellie Ohr?

Last July, after his and Artem Syntyk's conviction on the Black Ledger/election interference was overturned, the first thing Leshchenko said was something to the effect: Trump can't hate me now. Interesting how the political winds have changed.

Posted by: Ever at November 16, 2019 01:02 PM (ZZDMQ)

136 >>> Does anyone know why Mega Keating McEatingDisorder leveled such a bitter tweet at Roger Stone yesterday? I know that she inherited her big mouth and stupidity from her dumbass father, but surely her homewrecking mother has given her some clue that the family reputation is about to go deep in the shitter and that she should dial back on spiteful tweets.

The_Donald uncovered a tweet Roger Stone did about her dad, way back, telling him to burn in hell. She apparently has a long, vindictive memory, and did an homage to that tweet (that no one but her remembers.) She could have made the exact same point without resorting to telling him to go to hell. That kind of language is supposedly what she and her fellow harpies on the View squawk about as destroying the public discourse. Way to take the low road, Meggie Mac.

I think her real prob is that people like Stone refuse to let her build an unopposed hagiography of her father, keep removing the halo they are trying to polish. She needs to let her dad exist warts and all, own up he made huge mistakes. She cannot let this be. It is gross.

Posted by: LizLem at November 16, 2019 01:03 PM (VjxvX)

137 I got to work with a ArNG MI battalion briefly. They were not the sharpest crayons in the box.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 12:54 PM (EsKTB)

Reserve units were interesting. Could be some of the best intel guys around or some of the worst. That said, in my 20 years I'd put my guys up against anyone. I and my NCOs trained them well. They were excellent soldiers.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:03 PM (axyOa)

138 Lisa Mei Crowley @LisaMei62
2m
The masks are off.

Raheem Kassam @RaheemKassam
Woops!

@sam_vinograd just gave the game away on CNN.

She said bureaucrats want to get on with their jobs without influence by the President.

Um... the President sets policy.

Not the bureaucrats.

If they don't like it, they can line up at the unemployment office.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 16, 2019 01:03 PM (BqBId)

139 Schiff is the wimpiest Ahab ever.

Posted by: The Mudshark at November 16, 2019 01:03 PM (Tnijr)

140 "HS football shooting" Trump-voting NRA members, as I suspected.

Posted by: gp, Chargay d'Affaires du Chat at November 16, 2019 01:04 PM (mk9aG)

141 Ukraine was being run from that embassy.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 12:52 PM (ZLI7S)

And used it as a piggy bank.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 16, 2019 01:04 PM (l7Kbv)

142 And then afterwards he never called. He never wrote.

********

They taught us at Army Prostate Exam School (ironically enough, a six week course at Ft. Polk) that leaving a twenty on the dresser was sufficient.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 01:05 PM (m45I2)

143 He maybe the wimpiest ever but he is succeeding in destroying his party in his quixotic quest to harpoon Trump

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 01:05 PM (EsKTB)

144 "Once I taught her Pig Latin, she did quite well."

Actually I'd make a better ambassador.

Posted by: A Latin speaking pig at November 16, 2019 01:05 PM (Tnijr)

145 9 Schiff is the wimpiest Ahab ever.
Posted by: The Mudshark at November 16, 2019 01:0

More like Captain Queeg accusing people of strawberry theft

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2019 01:06 PM (6XlcD)

146 The guys who did the real work were in the basement doing 18 hour days and were mostly ignored by the foggy bottom asshats.

So Milbarge's part of the beginning of 'Spies Like Us' was a documentary.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 16, 2019 01:06 PM (ykYG2)

147 Hi Noon 1952

Grace Kelly was good in it as well as a few other notables

Posted by: LoneRanger at November 16, 2019 01:06 PM (eaw6P)

148 a six week course at Ft. Polk

Hah!

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 01:07 PM (EgshT)

149 Of course he's tilting at windmills.

He tilts at everything.

Poor bastard couldn't hold that melon on a toothpick straight up and down for anything!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 01:08 PM (6FeV1)

150 I've been trying to come up with a Foggy Bottom Boys joke referencing O Brother, but can't get it framed up right. Can someone help me out?

Something about Pappy O'Dannell getting a midget for his campaign?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 01:08 PM (m45I2)

151
The writer Erica Jong's daughter whose last name escapes me (Molly?) but whose last name is Jong-Fast, wailed on Twitter that Elise Stefanik was so very disrespectful, and that everybody should donate to the Democrat running against her for Congress. Disrespectful? Schiff is a rude clown. If the Democrats didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

========

Good lord, I follow Molly Jong-Fast's tweets just to see what the stupids are up to. I had no idea she was Erica Jong's daughter, but it figures.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 01:09 PM (13CQC)

152 Poor bastard couldn't hold that melon on a toothpick straight up and down for anything!

******

I heard somewhere that he has a congenital abnormality of his 18th cervical vertebra.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 01:10 PM (m45I2)

153 Bong-Fast? That sounds like a State Department party game.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 16, 2019 01:10 PM (EgshT)

154 Schiff has the look of a pitted olive on a toothpick

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 01:11 PM (EsKTB)

155 I still maintain that the house will fail at impeachment

the Dim Mod Squad will go against this

the Obamacare bodies can still be seen in the rear view mirror

inquiry, yes

impeachment , no

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 01:11 PM (rpxSz)

156 since it's noon, here's a question: why is it called noon?

I always though it was because that's when you and your sweetie could get together for a nooner.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 16, 2019 01:11 PM (YqED9)

157 I spent a lifetime at Ft Polk one week.
After 6 weeks I guess prostate exams would be about the only thing left to do.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:12 PM (axyOa)

158 96 The democrats live in their own, alternate reality now. They reinvent it daily, and add or subtract history as need be. There is no more worrying over form, civility, the future. There won't be a future unless we destroy them, utterly. No mercy. No quarter given. Sadly, there is no other way. Come to grips with that.
Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 16, 2019 12:42 PM (Fxgkp)

Been there for about a year now.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 16, 2019 01:13 PM (CLteG)

159 137 When I was on I and I duty, we supported a Marine VTU (volunteer training unit) . This was a group of mostly rif'ed officers, and some retirees, who came in on drill weekends without pay to keep up to date on things. Our VTU had a few 02 (intel) types, working in the private sector in their field and they were pretty sharp. We had one Colonel who was in Kissinger's inner circle Col. O'Leary, good guy, WW2 vet.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 16, 2019 01:13 PM (C1Lsn)

160 157 I spent a lifetime at Ft Polk one week.
After 6 weeks I guess prostate exams would be about the only thing left to do.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:12 PM (axyOa)

---

The hubs (Signal) was stationed at Ft Polk as his first duty station back in the mid-80s.

He would concur with your assessment.

Afterwards, he went to Schofield Barracks to wait for me to get there in '88, heh.

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 01:15 PM (RU4sa)

161 147 Hi Noon 1952

1969 gay flick

High Nooner

Tab was Fab

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 01:15 PM (rpxSz)

162 Heya fappers and fapperettes

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:16 PM (cJiNU)

163 >> JS, did you see the Serhiy Leshchenko whine-tweet to Jim Jordan demanding he stop including his name, when discussing Nellie Ohr?

>>Last July, after his and Artem Syntyk's conviction on the Black Ledger/election interference was overturned, the first thing Leshchenko said was something to the effect: Trump can't hate me now. Interesting how the political winds have changed.

Yea, I saw that. Good luck with that. It's only going to get louder.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2019 01:17 PM (ZLI7S)

164 Yo Insom.
S'up?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:17 PM (axyOa)

165 113 Anna Puma

I agree about PM.

Do you post at PL? Same sceen name?

I post there occasionally, with screen name "strawdog," btw.

Posted by: mnw at November 16, 2019 01:18 PM (Cssks)

166 Not familiar with Hi Nooner

anything to do with April?

Posted by: LoneRanger at November 16, 2019 01:19 PM (eaw6P)

167 Trump pardons some heroes

depends and poise filled beyond capacity

Bammy trades 5 killers for deserter

what's for lunch

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 01:21 PM (rpxSz)

168 I love Yavonovich's list of American diplomats who have suffered - the Iran hostages (abandoned by Carter), the Benghazi murders (abandoned by Obama), and the diplomats injured in Cuba (ignored by Obama).

Quite the list, isn't it?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2019 01:22 PM (I2/tG)

169 164 Yo Insom.
S'up?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:17 PM (axyOa)

Hey Diogenes! Just getting back from having brunch with my kids. Time with them is scarce and precious.

I'm glad that the report on Mrs. D was a positive one, considering the circumstances.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

170 Silly me...it's all ado 'bout sammiches

Posted by: LoneRanger at November 16, 2019 01:23 PM (eaw6P)

171 He maybe the wimpiest ever but he is succeeding in destroying his party in his quixotic quest to harpoon Trump
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 01:05 PM

Moby Don - #OrangeWhaleBad!!!

Posted by: Hands at November 16, 2019 01:23 PM (786Ro)

172 This is amusing. Hispanic white Beto O'Rourke, now finding himself with time on his hands, appears at race race, you know, where people run run, in a new hipster goatee and wearing a ball cap reading "The border makes America great."

https://tinyurl.com/yky6p3r3

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 16, 2019 01:24 PM (+y/Ru)

173 I love Yavonovich's list of American diplomats who have suffered - the Iran hostages (abandoned by Carter), the Benghazi murders (abandoned by Obama), and the diplomats injured in Cuba (ignored by Obama).

Quite the list, isn't it?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2019 01:22 PM

Yep. If they had shown the FEELZ more, they could have toughed it out like Yovanovich.

Posted by: Hands at November 16, 2019 01:25 PM (786Ro)

174 Anna - In case you missed it, BT-13

https://preview.tinyurl.com/wfrkkbp

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 16, 2019 01:27 PM (xSo9G)

175 Man, Schiff came off really freaking bad there.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 16, 2019 01:27 PM (CLteG)

176 I've known a professional US diplomat. Yes, you get assigned to shitholes occasionally, particularly early in your career, but you are spending more than half your time assigned to Washington, and the rest of the time you're usually getting assigned to pretty pleasant places. Your housing overseas is paid for, and can get quite ritzy, particularly at the senior levels.

Somebody should do a video tour of the US Ambassador's residence in Kiev - no wonder Yavonovich bitterly regretted losing "her house".

The shithole countries have small embassy staffs - it's not like trade is a concern, and the fact that a place is a shithole means minimal staffing. New diplomats are frequently assigned to shitholes, not just because no one wants to be there, but because they have a lot more responsibility than at a nicer embassy, precisely because the staffs are kept so small. It's good for training.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2019 01:31 PM (I2/tG)

177 Severe weather in FL today! It's 61 degrees! I just saw a bunch of people go by in jackets, wool caps and mufflers. I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt. LOL

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)

178 Severe weather in FL today! It's 61 degrees! I just saw a bunch of people go by in jackets, wool caps and mufflers. I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt. LOL
Posted by: Insomniac
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The wind chill...you're overlooking the wind chill!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 16, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)

179 I never post on Power Line.

Moby Don?
Ishamel, "Why is Captain Schiff wearing John Travolta's disco suit?"

Mike Hammer, great story. There is a book on Med B-25s called the Bridge Busters. It is the bomb group that Joseph Heller flew with. As the war in Europe seemed to be reaching a conclusion the stream of replacement pilots and planes started to slow down. As a result, the number of missions required to go home rose.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 01:33 PM (EsKTB)

180 178 Severe weather in FL today! It's 61 degrees! I just saw a bunch of people go by in jackets, wool caps and mufflers. I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt. LOL
Posted by: Insomniac
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The wind chill...you're overlooking the wind chill!
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 16, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)

OMG I didn't think of that. It could feel like it's BELOW 60! We're gonna freeze to death!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:34 PM (NWiLs)

181 For all the pants-shitters who think AG Barr isn't on the job and doesn't know exactly what he's up against and who the enemy is, please listen to this speech he gave yesterday to the Federalist Society:

https://youtu.be/MeMwdtbPR6g

Posted by: Sharkman at November 16, 2019 01:36 PM (bQngX)

182 She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:05 PM (m45I2)

I keep thinking of Archer saying "just the tip"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2019 01:37 PM (1glZx)

183
I'm glad that the report on Mrs. D was a positive one, considering the circumstances.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

****

Yes. She's in napping now. Radiation starts Monday but the doc is quite happy with what she found and didn't find. It's a relief.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:37 PM (axyOa)

184 The writer Erica Jong's daughter whose last name escapes me (Molly?

BUNGA-BUNGA !

Posted by: JT at November 16, 2019 01:39 PM (arJlL)

185
The wind chill...you're overlooking the wind chill!
Posted by: Mike Hammer

OMG I didn't think of that. It could feel like it's BELOW 60! We're gonna freeze to death!!!
Posted by: Insomniac

It's 60 BELOW in Florida! Climate change!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 01:39 PM (aKsyK)

186 Severe weather in FL today! It's 61 degrees!

*********

Have they started naming minor weather events down there yet/.

Subtropical Zephyr Belinda eased onto the Gjulf Coast late Friday afternoon, bringing slightly cooler temperatures and scattered clouds. The governor has issued a Long Slereves are Optional order.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 01:39 PM (m45I2)

187 Yes. She's in napping now. Radiation starts Monday but the doc is quite happy with what she found and didn't find. It's a relief.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:37 PM (axyOa)

I can only imagine. Thank goodness for that.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:40 PM (NWiLs)

188 Yikes! Sleeves.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 01:40 PM (m45I2)

189 She actually referred to the Diplomatic Corps as "the tip of the spear".

We will fight to the last canape!

Posted by: "Professional" Diplomats! at November 16, 2019 01:41 PM (I2/tG)

190 137 I got to work with a ArNG MI battalion briefly. They were not the sharpest crayons in the box.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 16, 2019 12:54 PM (EsKTB)

Reserve units were interesting. Could be some of the best intel guys around or some of the worst. That said, in my 20 years I'd put my guys up against anyone. I and my NCOs trained them well. They were excellent soldiers.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:03 PM (axyOa)

I resemble one of those

Posted by: Sgt_H at November 16, 2019 01:41 PM (dzvb3)

191 Anna - In case you missed it, BT-13

https://preview.tinyurl.com/wfrkkbp
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 16, 2019 01:27 PM (xSo9G)

***

At the little airport in SW Washington State where I grew up a couple of guys owned AT-6's. But one old guy had a BT-13. I swear that thing was far louder taking off than the 6's.
He told me once that once they started using the new satellite fields (in Texas) for training, the noise would drive off the prairie dogs.
I believe it.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:41 PM (axyOa)

192 The writer Erica Jong's daughter whose last name escapes me (Molly?

I guess all that zipless fucking had consequences.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2019 01:42 PM (I2/tG)

193 So sad.

Posted by: JAS at November 16, 2019 01:44 PM (DBGf/)

194 How can KellyAnne tolerate her "husband"? He called Elise Stefanik "lying trash" on twitter and told ppl to contribute to the socialist running against her. I don't care how religious I was or how many kids I had w that man, he's evil and toxic. That has to impact their kids. She and their daughter were attacked by the same ppl with whom he identifies; that is sick.

Posted by: Ever at November 16, 2019 01:45 PM (ZZDMQ)

195 Just for my daily intake of useless BS

was Mr. Rogers a TB ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 01:47 PM (rpxSz)

196 Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 01:37 PM (axyOa)
*******
Well that is good news

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 16, 2019 01:47 PM (BqBId)

197 It was more important to state Republicans that a Tea Party insurgent lose than that Republicans hold the seat. Owens barely hung on to the seat in 2010 and 2012, but chose not to run for reelection in the 2014 cycle.

A recurring theme. Did some leeches attach themselves to the Tea Party? Is water wet? Are most politicians lying sacks of shit?

That's ALL the same question, yo!

I want to reflect for a second on Trump and the Tea Party. At one point, after the election of The Turd With Flappy Ears, the TP had the support of 31% of the voters, including me. Thas a pretty big 'special interest' group, and was bipartisan. The real kind, composed of voters.

So of course, the media HAD to slay us. And since we became moar anathema than ketchup on a hotdog to them, the TPers went underground. 'Public' support plummeted.

A looooong 8 years later, we re-emerged as Trump supporters. Like antibiotic resistant TB, we persevered. In 2012 the Surrender Caucus gave us Mitt the Surrender Shit, their last gasp. And we took the recommended pain pill, losing, and abided like The Dude.

And they are STILL trying to kill us all off.

And it STILL ain't working.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 16, 2019 01:48 PM (Z4rgH)

198 How can KellyAnne tolerate her "husband"? He called Elise Stefanik "lying trash" on twitter and told ppl to contribute to the socialist running against her. I don't care how religious I was or how many kids I had w that man, he's evil and toxic. That has to impact their kids. She and their daughter were attacked by the same ppl with whom he identifies; that is sick.
Posted by: Ever

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I surmise to them and their ilk, it's business, not personal.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 01:48 PM (Y4EXg)

199 177 Severe weather in FL today! It's 61 degrees! I just saw a bunch of people go by in jackets, wool caps and mufflers. I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt. LOL
Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)

So the face colanders come out at what? 55 degrees?

Posted by: Simone, Star Witness for the Democrats at November 16, 2019 01:49 PM (jp0Bv)

200 Ah, I remember all the media fanfare about Elise Stefanik being the youngest female congresswoman at the time.

Oh, wait. No I don't. That was brain scholar AOC.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at November 16, 2019 01:50 PM (9hauA)

201 92 Schitt is a fascist sexist. Nunes should tear up a copy of the constitution and dump it on Schitt's head,

Posted by: mercenary13 at November 16, 2019 01:52 PM (cpa7Q)

202 How can KellyAnne tolerate her "husband"? He called Elise Stefanik "lying trash" on twitter and told ppl to contribute to the socialist running against her. I don't care how religious I was or how many kids I had w that man, he's evil and toxic. That has to impact their kids. She and their daughter were attacked by the same ppl with whom he identifies; that is sick.
Posted by: Ever at November 16, 2019 01:45 PM (ZZDMQ)

I saw that tweet and noticed the glaring absence of details about any lies.

Did he comment on the fine congresswoman getting the crying diplomat to admit that the Obama administration had concerns about Hunter Biden and Burisma? Or was that all a lie, too?

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at November 16, 2019 01:54 PM (9hauA)

203 We shall go on to the end. We will fight in Paris and Tokyo. We shall fight aboard the yachts. We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight in the ballrooms. We shall fight in the spas and on the golf courses. We shall fight unto the last bacon wrapped scallop and lobster tail. We shall never surrender. Negotiated Capitulation is, however, an acceptable outcome.

Posted by: Masha "weird gal" Yovanovich at November 16, 2019 01:58 PM (jp0Bv)

204 Schiff is a Stalinesque piece of shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:59 PM (NWiLs)

205 199 177 Severe weather in FL today! It's 61 degrees! I just saw a bunch of people go by in jackets, wool caps and mufflers. I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt. LOL
Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 01:31 PM (NWiLs)

So the face colanders come out at what? 55 degrees?
Posted by: Simone, Star Witness for the Democrats at November 16, 2019 01:49 PM (jp0Bv)

Colander face masks are typically warm-weather gear.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

206 Warm weather being relative, of course.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

207 Shoot. Everybody went to the gardening thread, I guess.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

208 *tumbleweed*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:02 PM (ycWCI)

209 For all the pants-shitters who think AG Barr isn't on the job and doesn't know exactly what he's up against and who the enemy is, please listen to this speech he gave yesterday to the Federalist Society:
https://youtu.be/MeMwdtbPR6g
Posted by: Sharkman at November 16, 2019 01:36 PM (bQngX)

Randy Newman......."Pants". Barr's theme song.

https://tinyurl.com/swvoxq9

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 16, 2019 02:03 PM (Z+IKu)

210 Yavonovich: I love the smell of printer paper in the morning. Smells like ... diplomacy.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2019 02:03 PM (LxTcq)

211
How can KellyAnne tolerate her "husband"? He called Elise Stefanik "lying trash" on twitter and told ppl to contribute to the socialist running against her. I don't care how religious I was or how many kids I had w that man, he's evil and toxic. That has to impact their kids. She and their daughter were attacked by the same ppl with whom he identifies; that is sick.
Posted by: Ever
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I honestly think KellyAnne made a bad pick.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:03 PM (13CQC)

212 I'm not all alone after all! Yay!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:04 PM (NWiLs)

213
Shoot. Everybody went to the gardening thread, I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac

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Just the gardeners.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:04 PM (13CQC)

214 I would think a colander would be a more intermediate type of clothing. Too hot and it would probably chafe. Too sunny and that thing could get damn hot- like wearing an oven on your face.

Cool, and it might offer some protection from the wind. Too cold and your face might freeze, add a balaclava.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:05 PM (ycWCI)

215 Just back from getting wings and stuff for the Navy/Fighting Irish game in 25 minutes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2019 02:05 PM (cqNba)

216 212 I'm not all alone after all! Yay!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:04 PM (NWiLs)

Did you guys just hear something?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:06 PM (6FeV1)

217 For cold weather during the mad max apocalypse, you might be able to make some coin by making balaclava/colander onesies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:06 PM (ycWCI)

218 Cool, and it might offer some protection from the wind. Too cold and your face might freeze, add a balaclava.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:05 PM (ycWCI)

I know phyllo is magical stuff, but I don't think it's a great insulator.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:07 PM (6FeV1)

219 Did you guys just hear something?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:06 PM (6FeV1)

A fly buzzing? He's out of phase like that hippie chick on that star trek episode!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:07 PM (ycWCI)

220 I know phyllo is magical stuff, but I don't think it's a great insulator.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:07 PM (6FeV1)

Adding baklava to your colander face mask would set you apart from the other droogs. Might make you popular with dogs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:09 PM (ycWCI)

221 Adding baklava to your colander face mask would set you apart from the other droogs. Might make you popular with dogs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:09 PM (ycWCI)

Legio Canum. I like it.

You of course get the honor of leading the first maniple.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:10 PM (6FeV1)

222 But I call first dibs on heading up the Spanikopita Irregulars.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:14 PM (6FeV1)

223 *to the war hounds, pointing with a cold steel gladius-$49 bucks on amazon!*

Attack!

*dogs sit patiently, wagging their tails and staring at the pastry on his face and wagging their tails*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:14 PM (ycWCI)

224 maniple

There's a tranny joke in there somewhere, but I can't seem to squeeze one out of it.

Posted by: mikeski at November 16, 2019 02:15 PM (P1f+c)

225 222 But I call first dibs on heading up the Spanikopita Irregulars.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:14 PM (6FeV1)

Damn. Do not see Venture Bros references often.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 02:16 PM (ycWCI)

226 After some reflection I can see they are trying to kill Roger Stone too.

Putin has to laughing his ass off at how well the Democrats have done carrying out his plans against his opponents.

Posted by: torabora at November 16, 2019 02:16 PM (Y274z)

227 216 212 I'm not all alone after all! Yay!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:04 PM (NWiLs)

Did you guys just hear something?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:06 PM (6FeV1)

🖕

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:19 PM (NWiLs)

228 Wakes up from nap
Looks around
Must be a lot of sports goin on today

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:21 PM (iaYfR)

229 The only thing I know about gardening is that everything I put in the ground dies.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 16, 2019 02:22 PM (flINI)

230 Did you guys just hear something?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:06 PM (6FeV1)

-on field gris a single bird or, rampant -
Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:19 PM (NWiLs)

hehehehe

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2019 02:22 PM (6FeV1)

231 Hey Insom, wanna play cards?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:23 PM (iaYfR)

232 Hi, Ben Had. Lot of games but nothing too good yet. ND/Navy at 1:30 and Georgia/Auburn at 2:30 should be better games.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 16, 2019 02:24 PM (Dhht7)

233 Listened to a bit of Barr's talk, ok/meh, mostly obvious stuff, but need to go listen to the part about judicial constitutional vandalism. That's the key issue - and one Barr and the legal cult have hitherto completely ignored - if they even can detect or understand the concept.

In fact, to say [as he did in the part I watched] that the legislature has encroached on executive power is a bit dubious on its face - an enormous problem is the exact opposite, Congress de facto ceding enormous power to the executive, in the form of the administrative state.

Judiciary has usurped in an unprecedented manner since Trump was inaugurated. Beginning with one of the most audacious outrages, over the travel EO.

It was the whole package - plaintiffs who could not possibly have standing [if national policy legally founded by Congress and executed by the president is to have any meaning]; outright, absurd defiance of clear law by a judge just making s**t up; and, making it much much much more important, in an area with zero judicial competence or authority - a president making a national security call based on intelligence recommendations, all clearly within the law and his constitutional authority.

Words to the Federalist society, given the context and realities, are at the lowest end of cheap.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 16, 2019 02:25 PM (QDnY+)

234 Shoot. Everybody went to the gardening thread, I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac

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Just the gardeners.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:04 PM (13CQC)

***

I got chores to do.

Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2019 02:27 PM (axyOa)

235 Hi olddog. No TV for me, but I found the whole Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett at the pawn shop so I let it watch me in stages.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:28 PM (iaYfR)

236 19 I served as a Medical Officer in the Army for 13 years. While my service was honorable there is no way on earth that I would attempt to equate it with the service of those heroic men and women who actually stood in harm's way at risk to life and limb. For this State Department employee (who, as an ambassador, enjoyed the highest level of U.S. protection during her overseas postings) to drape herself in the fabric of actual heroes while sabotaging POTUS is about as despicable as I can imagine.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 16, 2019 12:00 PM (m45I2)

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Why does it seem that the only officers worth a damn are here at the HQ?

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 02:29 PM (RU4sa)

237 Hey Ben Had.

Have some stomach bug, so I'm laid up on the couch debating if chicken noodle soup may be too much.

Ginger ale is barely tolerable.

So I may be a bit more cantankerous than usual.

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 02:32 PM (RU4sa)

238 Hey SMH! It was snowing in Killeen yesterday.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:32 PM (iaYfR)

239
the legislature has encroached on executive power is a bit dubious on its face - an enormous problem is the exact opposite, Congress de facto ceding enormous power to the executive, in the form of the administrative state.

Posted by: rhomboid

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This is the one that I don't get. Michelle Bachman once asked Tim Geithner (I think that was the guy) what his Constitutional authority was -- as in, which part of the Constitution gave him the authority to do whatever he was doing. He sat there all tongue-tied but I thought he missed an opening. Just go to the part of the Constitution where Congress makes laws, etc., you dummy.

I mean to me, this COULD HAVE BEEN like that scene in Die Hard where Hans Gruber says to Holly McClane, "What idiot put you in charge?" and she says "You did."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:32 PM (13CQC)

240 Why does it seem that the only officers worth a damn are here at the HQ?
Posted by: SMH

Government can never be made good. It can only be made less bad. And that ship sailed in 1913.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 16, 2019 02:33 PM (1Vobx)

241 233 rhomboid

You are absolutely correct. This concerted effort by all three arms to do whatever is necessary, legal or not, to thwart an America First agenda by PT needs to be addressed. I agree w the ppl who bl that not punishing the liars in the Kavanaugh confirmation gave free reign to even more evil. DOJ failed us.

Posted by: Ever at November 16, 2019 02:34 PM (ZZDMQ)

242 Heh Ben Had.

Oldest daughter was not happy.

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 02:34 PM (RU4sa)

243 SMH, how about just some plain chicken broth?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:36 PM (iaYfR)

244
I got chores to do.

Sigh...
Posted by: Diogenes

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#MeToo. I'll be gone as soon as I get to the bottom of this fup of cokkee.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:37 PM (13CQC)

245 Sometimes you just have to let those chore wait a bit and enjoy the day.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:41 PM (iaYfR)

246 Ed Driscoll has a good point this morning. Obama left an ambassador to die, but we're supposed to be outraged about Trump's tweet.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/348479/

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 16, 2019 02:43 PM (BVQ+1)

247 Have some stomach bug, so I'm laid up on the couch debating if chicken noodle soup may be too much.
Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 02:32 PM

* sends orderly with tray of SOS *

Posted by: Mess Sgt. Perry Stalsus at November 16, 2019 02:44 PM (DMUuz)

248
not punishing the liars in the Kavanaugh confirmation gave free reign to even more evil. DOJ failed us.
Posted by: Ever

========

You wonder what those laws are even for. What is congressional testimony even for? Might as well let Congress read some Hustler letters and save the taxpayers some money.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:44 PM (13CQC)

249 For heaven's sake, they're 6 and 11. They don't want it, their mom does. It's all the rage with the 'cool' moms I guess.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2019 12:19 PM (Y4EXg)

Waxing kids' eyebrows, if they don't want it? Straight up child abuse. Probably even if they claim to want it, since they are too young to have full agency in the matter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2019 02:44 PM (/sgva)

250
Linn - it all went pretty well this week. They are back home today. Their mother is po'd with me as I wouldn't take them for their regularly schedule eyebrow waxing appointment this week.

For heaven's sake, they're 6 and 11. They don't want it, their mom does. It's all the rage with the 'cool' moms I guess.
Posted by: Tonypete

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That is such bs. It doesn't take a whole lot of waxing or plucking before hair just doesn't grow back at all. This happened to a friend of mine who had very trendy, very thin eyebrows for several years. What *very* little she has left is now getting even thinner over time, and she'll soon have no eyebrows at all. Estheticians tell her she'll have to learn to draw them on.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:51 PM (13CQC)

251
Well, looks like I've got this thread practically to myself, which means it's time to till the fields, etc. Later!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:52 PM (13CQC)

252 * sends orderly with tray of SOS *
Posted by: Mess Sgt. Perry Stalsus at November 16, 2019 02:44 PM (DMUuz)

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Haha.

Yeah, don't think so.

But thanks anyway, Sarge.

Posted by: SMH at November 16, 2019 02:53 PM (RU4sa)

253 231 Hey Insom, wanna play cards?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:23 PM (iaYfR)

Sure, what's your pleasure?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

254 Insom, I'm partial to Texas Hold'em.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:57 PM (iaYfR)

255 Got the tuna steaks marinating. Just waiting for Pet Thread.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 16, 2019 02:59 PM (Dhht7)

256 254 Insom, I'm partial to Texas Hold'em.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2019 02:57 PM (iaYfR)

Why does this not surprise me.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 16, 2019 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

257 Nood Pets.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 16, 2019 03:01 PM (Dhht7)

258 Even People Steeped in The Extremes of Introspection Naturally Desire Interesting Dialogue, Not To Knock Internal Logos and Likeability; However, Internet Market Surveys Edify Less Frequently.

Posted by: norrin radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 16, 2019 03:11 PM (8YXYE)

259 How can KellyAnne tolerate her "husband"? He called Elise Stefanik "lying trash" on twitter and told ppl to contribute to the socialist running against her. I don't care how religious I was or how many kids I had w that man, he's evil and toxic. That has to impact their kids. She and their daughter were attacked by the same ppl with whom he identifies; that is sick.
Posted by: Ever
========

I honestly think KellyAnne made a bad pick.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 16, 2019 02:03 PM (13CQC)

I don't know why Trump puts up with her. She's like someone who shows up at a party with a fat loudmouth who eats all the food, drains all the booze and sits around farting and demands to watch porn.

Maybe Trump uses her to illustrate that he doesn't get distracted by extraneous horseshit but I'd send her packing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 03:23 PM (y7DUB)

260 She went from Somalia to Moscow and London? How did she wrangle those plum postings after that disaster in Mogadishu?
I think she has a lot of dirt in her past. That would explain why she was so reluctant to leave her hot zone. She knew how much Hunter was making, she cultivated her own relationship with a billionaire.....and she was set to make millions too!
Instead she is teaching some punks at Georgetown about safe spaces in hot zones....while still on the State Department payroll for doing nothing.

Posted by: wferrin at November 16, 2019 03:33 PM (UjYaa)

261 "It was more important to state Republicans that a Tea Party insurgent lose than that Republicans hold the seat."

And this, right here, explains why the Cruise Ship Cons and the GOPe must be given the same treatment as Tories after the Revolution: Leave, Shut Up, or Die.

I prefer Option 3. The Founders were more generous to the Tories than this bunch deserves.

Posted by: SDN at November 16, 2019 03:40 PM (ohO1o)

262 I saw some discussion of eyebrows above, so this is on topic. My eyebrows hate me.

I didn't mind when my hair started to go grey. I'm 29 after all. And it started at the temples and mingled throughout and looked generally distinguished.

My eyebrows are producing individual white strands that stick out from a brown background. There's no oh his eyebrows are fading like his hair, it's all look how freaky that it he has eight white hairs in each eyebrow.

Harumph.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 03:42 PM (gd9RK)

263 181

Talk's cheap. Show. Me. The Money.

Have Barr do that talkin' in a criminal court opening statement indicting some traitors, then I'll sing Barr's praises.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at November 16, 2019 03:56 PM (nWmg2)

264 Congrats Dems. 73 percent of voters think you're full of shit.

Posted by: Galil at November 16, 2019 05:07 PM (Pzzpr)

265 ".....and she was set to make millions too!

Instead she is teaching some punks at Georgetown about safe spaces
in hot zones....while still on the State Department payroll for doing
nothing.

Posted by: wferrin"
That is know as "dedication to public service"

Posted by: Ripley at November 17, 2019 01:27 AM (NbRJx)

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