Learn To Code Watch: AP Celebrates #Woke Journ0lisming Students Who Bravely Soldier On Despite Having No Job Prospects In Dying Industry

Also notice that the Journ0lisming professors who are profiting from this scam -- and who need new marks to saddle with unpayable levels of debt in order to pay their own rent -- call this mindset "optimism."

Yes, yes, yes. Bernie Madoff also got the warm feels from the "optimism" demonstrated by the last entrants into his pyramid schemes, too!


Fake news? No jobs? Prospective journalists soldier on

By DAVID BAUDER

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) -- The Daily Orange isn't daily anymore.

The student-run newspaper that has covered Syracuse University since 1903, and trained generations of journalists, now prints three issues per week. Editor-in-chief Haley Robertson wonders where she'll find advertisers, worries about firing friends, and searches for alumni donors who will pay to send reporters on the road to cover the university’s sports teams.

These are problems not unlike those that bedevil executives two or three times her age -- evidence of how the news industry’s woes have seeped onto campuses that try to harness youthful energy and idealism to turn out professionals who can inform the world.


Meanwhile, college journalism educators are changing the way they teach in a race against obsolescence. They're emphasizing versatility and encouraging a spirit of entrepreneurship.

"Encouraging a spirit of entrepreneurism" = "get loan to buy a late-model sedan so you can work for Uber and Lyft"


After some brutal years, there are signs of life. Much as the journalistic pursuit of a crooked president in the 1970s inspired a generation, another leader who denounces reporters as enemies on a nearly daily basis has given birth to a new resolve: Enrollment in journalism programs is up.


"When I look at local news and see what’s happening, I'm pessimistic," said Kathleen Culver, journalism professor at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. "When I look at 18- and 20-year-olds and see what they want to do, I'm optimistic."

So when you look at the actual real-world facts, you're pessimistic, but when you look at the delusions of naive and stupid 19 year olds, you feel "optimistic"?

Optimistic for what? Optimistic for your own economic prospects, given that the army of the ignorant seems inexhaustible?

...


"Seeing the layoffs and seeing newsroom cutbacks is really disheartening," Leffert said. "But what keeps me wanting to be a journalist and wanting to do it here is seeing the effect that the [Daily, or rather Triweekly, Orange] has. It's really cool and exciting."

Yes it's super-cool and interesting to be a Social Media Influencer. And it's even cooler to be a "journalist" to whom Twitter gives special prominence and protections.

This is all basically a racket to get idiots to spend $150,000 they can never pay back (and which will be paid by non- journalist taxpayers, ultimately) just to get a Blue Checkmark on Twitter.

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1 1

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (ECrgQ)

2 not 1

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (q80AH)

3 Briganood.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (COzlW)

4 Top Five?

Posted by: DC at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (/TvO8)

5 4st

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (Vy7tf)

6 Called the Corgis.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (ECrgQ)

7 Hey, DC! That's my slot!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (Vy7tf)

8 There's always selling apples from a barrel on the street corner.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (COzlW)

9 Are they still telling them they can "change the world"?
Do they still idolize Woodward and Bernstein?

Posted by: BignJames at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (X/Pw5)

10 Let them enjoy their Funemployment.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (mNUzX)

11 Srs question: is there room for a print version of conservative paper? Like a monthly rag?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (Vy7tf)

12 Are there no work houses?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:07 PM (ZLI7S)

13 Good.

More of this, faster please.

/Insty

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 05, 2019 02:07 PM (HaL55)

14 A blue checkmark to show that the poor dears are mental disabled.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 05, 2019 02:07 PM (F/PuA)

15 Compare two "dying" industries:

The Media, and blue-color industrial jobs in the US.

One gets romanticized to hell, the other is told "those jobs aren't coming back. Tough luck."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (KUaJL)

16 one day, kids are going to have to wake up, right? College is too expensive and it's costing that money for no reason.

1. student loans driving cost increases because duh.
2. colleges spend the extra money on hiring their dullard graduates to be political kommisars on campus.
3. college presidents live like kings

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (FEQY4)

17 BTW, they're not journalists. They're stenographers. And that is all.


What they need to be is reporters but that can only be accomplished if they don't have an agenda to promote. And their agenda is Leftism.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (mNUzX)

18 try to harness youthful energy and idealism to turn out professionals who can inform the world.

Should read: "try to exploit youthful stupidity to turn out leftist apparatchiks who can indoctrinate the world."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (hGXZE)

19 Nothing says "speaking truth to power" like "tall, grande, or venti?".

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (RD7QR)

20 LOL get fucked you future Starbuck's baristas

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (KNsKs)

21 Oh so you're mocking the only degree that makes you an expert in any topic you write on?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (k81AA)

22 "It's as easy as lying, because it is lying."-G.K. Chesterton

Posted by: The #ProfessionalLiars at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (Ndje9)

23


"Much as the journalistic pursuit of a crooked president in the 1970s inspired a generation"

That shit again? LOL.

Hey you guise, you might get to topple a President! Think of all the books and stuff you'll get, maybe get a movie made about you!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (ikxxu)

24 "It's rilly rilly kewl and exciting."

Journalism major. Not smart enough to go with an Elementary Education major.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (COzlW)

25 Editor-in-chief Haley Robertson...

Hey Haley. How about you write campus news for realz and quit trying to polish your progressive creds with the Bullsh*t you've been cranking out? And try covering a few conservative angles.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (axyOa)

26 And practically every University has a psychology major, yet there are literally 0 jobs for which that prepares one. And yet, it's generally the top major.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (87EdW)

27 Learn to yodel.

Posted by: Franzi Lang at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (Pzzpr)

28 Suck it scribes

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (ZJ/ol)

29 20 LOL get fucked you future Starbuck's baristas
Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (KNsKs)


Baristas? Please. The proper term is "Hot Beverage Engineers."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (hGXZE)

30 Been seeing a lot of commercials for companies offering help to pay down burdensome school loans.

A whole new niche of vulture capitalism has been created.

So they're actually job creators!

Kudos to them and bless there hearts.



Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (u6xw0)

31 The last time my local fishwrap called to try and get me to subscribe I told them that their very name, The Daily Record, was a lie. Five days a week isn't daily.
Also, that they had all the information I needed yesterday, three days from now. And that if I used the paper to line a birdcage the birds would be more stupid for it.

Oddly, they haven't called back.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (Tt761)

32 Major media could hire 10 of these for one ignorant leach like fat Ana Navarro.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (Uu+Jp)

33 Endeavor to familiarize yourselves with the means of controlling cybernetic machinery.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (RD7QR)

34 "Encouraging a spirit of entrepreneurism"

Is this code for "be like Tim Pool or Andy Ngo, without the wrongthink"? That's like having college classes on how to become a "media influencer" with Instagram, Vine, YouTube, etc.

#Learn2CamGirl
#LearnThePole

Posted by: Schadenboner at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (IfpGX)

35
Meanwhile, college journalism educators are changing the way they teach in a race against obsolescence. They're emphasizing versatility and encouraging a spirit of entrepreneurship


So, learning to code?

No? What are you people, deef?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (pNxlR)

36 Top 40. with a bullet

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (9g3um)

37 And practically every University has a psychology major, yet there are literally 0 jobs for which that prepares one. And yet, it's generally the top major.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (87EdW)

Well, there is the DMV.

Posted by: BignJames at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (X/Pw5)

38 Hey Haley.
Go stand with a group of your classmates and look to the left and to the right.
Now, do you really think you are the future???

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:11 PM (axyOa)

39 I used to work in local live tv. My job got automated away. Lots of jobs in teh media are being automated away.

Yet schools are still pumping out grads in broadcasting classes like there is no tomorrow.

/we're going to need more coding jobs

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (HNyOC)

40 I'm not even sure what the word "Journalist" even means anymore. Does it mean that you hold a certain degree or that you have a certain job or "do journalising" as a hobby?
A lot of conservative journalists apparently don't qualify under the latter definitions.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (xO9gM)

41 And practically every University has a psychology major, yet there are literally 0 jobs for which that prepares one. And yet, it's generally the top major.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (87EdW)


Because a golden retriever could successfully major in psychology.

My roommate in college was a mechanical engineering major. For the first two weeks. After that, psychology.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (hGXZE)

42 Weird timing. A journalism colleague recently forwarded to everyone an article that optimistically declared how journalism majors are being prepared for so many various vocations. It was kind of strange.

My immediate thought was that he was either trying to sell to the wrong crowd, or methinks thou protesteth too much.

Posted by: DC at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (/TvO8)

43 I really don't like acknowledging the fake news journolists.

they are not even worth my sad attempt at lazy snark anymore

Posted by: overit at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (sI15f)

44 Compare two "dying" industries:



The Media, and blue-color industrial jobs in the US.



One gets romanticized to hell, the other is told "those jobs aren't coming back. Tough luck."


Blue collar industrial jobs (like the one I used to have) were eliminated by NAFTA (along with billions of dollars of political support for Republicans, funny that...). I'd like to see Washington pass a law that outsourced journalisming.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (HaL55)

45
"When I look at local news and see what's happening, I'm pessimistic," said Kathleen Culver, journalism professor at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. "When I look at 18- and 20-year-olds and see what they want to do, I'm optimistic."


#muhricebowl is safe for another decade or decade and a half!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (pNxlR)

46 Much as the journalistic pursuit of a crooked president

You mean LBJ, o wait a minute

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (8Hw9I)

47 Much as the journalistic pursuit of a crooked president in the 1970s inspired a generation, another leader who denounces reporters as enemies on a nearly daily basis has given birth to a new resolve:

GET HIM

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (COzlW)

48 The word journalism itself can be deceiving. A journal is a diary, so to speak, of one's observations and observations are rife with one's opinions of whatever is being observed. Quite the opposite from reporting, which is the simple recounting of who, what, when and where something happened. Notice that I left out the why, because the why invites interpretation and therefore opinion and agenda.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (mNUzX)

49 Srs question: is there room for a print version of conservative paper? Like a monthly rag?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (Vy7tf)

Epoch News comes in print and online. I get the print paper once a week, I think. It's nice to sit with an actual newspaper occasionally. And The writing is top notch.

Posted by: LASue at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

50 The Left frequently floats proposals to subsidize newspapers and other media outlets even though most are obsolescent. There surely must be a reason for it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (iw59Q)

51 34 #DaytimeStrippersWanted

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (KNsKs)

52 Here's a link that any aspiring jorn0listers will find handy in the near future:

https://tinyurl.com/y4fcshpg

Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (o4fG0)

53 If a psych major is too hard for you (maybe you're a pug, not a gr) there's always social work. It's basically psych for d students.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (87EdW)

54 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

55 I'm not even sure what the word "Journalist" even means anymore...
Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (xO9gM)


It means that they keep very neat diaries.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (aS1PU)

56 39 I used to work in local live tv. My job got automated away. Lots of jobs in teh media are being automated away.

Yet schools are still pumping out grads in broadcasting classes like there is no tomorrow.

/we're going to need more coding jobs
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (HNyOC)

I'm still holding out for Maxx Headroom.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (xO9gM)

57 Fake Jobs

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (IpMhW)

58 college journalism educators

Wow, a twofer in pretension: "journalism" and "educators." You're teaching "reporting," and it used to be learn through an apprenticeship.

And still should be.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (hGXZE)

59 If any of these idiots gave two shits about journalism they would have been on Obama's story like stink on shit. Clinton's scummery would have been good too. Oh, and Epstein. Joe Biden, absolutely.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (jUVms)

60
My roommate in college was a mechanical engineering major. For the first two weeks. After that, psychology.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (hGXZE)


Math: #wheredreamsdie

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (pNxlR)

61 This is OT, but I am feeling a rare bit of encouragement.

I just returned from voting. As I do every year, I drove back the long way through some very nice neighborhoods. I like getting into a time machine, and going back through what looks like the Cleavers' Mayfield.

But of course, I've long known that nowadays, those houses are dominated by Whine Moms who think we are just too, too.

But today, most of the signs were for Republican candidates.

Progress? Or illusion?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (ZbwAu)

62 "And practically every University has a psychology major, yet there are literally 0 jobs for which that prepares one. And yet, it's generally the top major.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (87EdW)"

Because you generally need an advanced degree to work in a Psych field.

You shouldn't - it's really not that difficult. But psych is sort of like, I dunno, pre-law.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (oZ6kz)

63 No jobs? Prospective journalists soldier on
---
Because otherwise, they might have to work.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (YOhRS)

64 What "Learn to Code" and jornolists suffering even more enjoyable is knowing that there are endless stories and scandals about the Dems/left corruption and power lust over the past decades that need investigating and exposure. In a normal world that would lead to fame and fortune and awards but 99.98% are too brainwashed (or cowardly) to follow what is staring them in the face.

Posted by: Ripley at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (MxEKc)

65 Is Lauren Duca still teaching journalism at NYU? Those idiots really get their money's worth.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 05, 2019 02:16 PM (OD2ni)

66 The word journalism itself can be deceiving. A journal is a diary, so to speak, of one's observations and observations are rife with one's opinions of whatever is being observed. Quite the opposite from reporting, which is the simple recounting of who, what, when and where something happened. Notice that I left out the why, because the why invites interpretation and therefore opinion and agenda.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (mNUzX)


This.

It's why these clowns arrogate to themselves the title "journalist," even if they're just covering rescues of cats from trees.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:16 PM (hGXZE)

67 Journalism is dead. I will never again, under any circumstances, trust someone who is considered a "journalist."

I experience a perverse pleasure hearing about demise of print media and the firing of their employees.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 05, 2019 02:16 PM (TdMsT)

68 It is easy to pick out the students at a University who have jobs upon graduation. They are the foreign kids hanging out at the computer science building, and the ROTC cadets in uniform.
Each group has a very high graduation rate and as Universities have discovered, make excellent alumni.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:16 PM (axyOa)

69 Journalism??

There is no such thing as journalism today. It died a long time ago.

Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2019 02:16 PM (88xKn)

70 48 The word journalism itself can be deceiving. A journal is a diary, so to speak, of one's observations and observations are rife with one's opinions of whatever is being observed. Quite the opposite from reporting, which is the simple recounting of who, what, when and where something happened. Notice that I left out the why, because the why invites interpretation and therefore opinion and agenda.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:14 PM (mNUzX)

But now we have supposed journalists who just read teleprompters or plagerize NY Times articles.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (xO9gM)

71 #YoureTooDumbToCode

GOTO Starbucks

Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (ZbwAu)

72 >>"Encouraging a spirit of entrepreneurism" = "get loan to buy a late-model sedan so you can work for Uber and Lyft"


DE-PLATFORM INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS FTW!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (bDqIh)

73 Was it Duca or Talia Lavin whose class had only 3 or 4 students and got cancelled?

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (oZ6kz)

74 Watching our carriers burn-out, out battleships sink, and our cruisers blow up is very disheartening. But when I look at the fresh eager faces of these young Kamikazes, and know that they want to drag Yankee sailors to their deaths with them, I'm optimistic for the Empire. - Some Japanese officer in 1945

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (hLRSq)

75 Fake news? No jobs? Prospective journalists soldier on



Well, there you go. It's right there in the headline.

Join the Army.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (COzlW)

76 Yes, yes, yes, I wouldn't say that journalism is waning, I would say it's appeal is becoming more selective.

Posted by: Ian Faith, Manager of Spinal Tap at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (I8FKK)

77
10 PRINT "Learn to Code!"
20 GOTO 10
30 END

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (pNxlR)

78 I'd like to see Washington pass a law that outsourced journalisming.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (HaL55)

Within a year of said law's implementation, you'd notice a major increase in the quality and decrease in bias in journalism.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (o4fG0)

79 Those large numbers of young people applying for journalism courses might as well apply to become Mississippi steamboat pilots.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (Uu+Jp)

80 The day
Reporting
Died

And we were singing
Bye, Bye you lying cocksuckers.

I admit, still needs some work.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (ZLI7S)

81 If I had my way, Journalism would be a 2 year trade school degree.

You don't need 4 years of college to do that job, and it'll remove a lot of the pride that the journalistic class has in their superiority over the average American.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (KUaJL)

82 But today, most of the signs were for Republican candidates.

Progress? Or illusion?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM


****

The asshats in this state (Washington) won't even put their party affiliation in the Voter's Guide, much less on the annoying yard signs.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (axyOa)

83 Journalism = Dear Diary

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (COzlW)

84 46 Much as the journalistic pursuit of a crooked president

You mean LBJ, o wait a minute
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019


*
*

The media did scream loud and long at LBJ and mock him at every opportunity. It was markedly different from the *cough* Jugears-like *cough* adoration in which they'd held JFK. I'm not sure why, as LBJ was a Dem.

When Nixon came in, they'd had almost 4 years to practice negative reporting of a president . . . and now he was a Republican! "Satan cries, 'Fair game!' "

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (Ejm1K)

85 It's why these clowns arrogate to themselves the title "journalist," even if they're just covering rescues of cats from trees.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:16 PM (hGXZE)

It wouldn't be so bad except that they also pretend that Freedom of the Press only applies to journalists

Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (xO9gM)

86 62- absolutely right, Bro, but most don't go on to get their masters or PhD, a lot just take it because they were told to go to college and it's easy.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (87EdW)

87 Correction in the headline kind sir. Learn to Code Warning... as this is happening now.

In other words, Learn to Code beyotches......and now.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (v7jy4)

88 26 And practically every University has a psychology major, yet there are literally 0 jobs for which that prepares one. And yet, it's generally the top major.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM

Hey! I have a BS in psychology (how appropriate)! I had an ROTC scholarship, and all you need is a degree to be an Army officer....doesn't matter the field. Psych was fairly easy, fairly interesting, and had a good female to male ratio, so it was great!

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (IfpGX)

89 77
10 PRINT "Learn to Code!"
20 GOTO 10
30 END
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (pNxlR)


An infinite do-loop.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (TdMsT)

90 These are problems not unlike those that bedevil executives two or three times her age -- evidence of how the news industry's woes have seeped onto campuses that try to harness youthful energy and idealism to turn out professionals who can inform the world.


Why do you need a college newspaper when every professor does that daily?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:19 PM (NJ+n1)

91 Soon they will be able to get up close and personal with the homeless.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 02:19 PM (IpMhW)

92 >>But now we have supposed journalists who just read teleprompters or plagerize NY Times articles.


. . . seal independent journalists' work from twitter and blogs and call it "Exclusive!!".

See: Tiana Lowe, "you should be happy I'm giving your work a wider audience (without attribution)"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:19 PM (bDqIh)

93 "62- absolutely right, Bro, but most don't go on to get their masters or PhD, a lot just take it because they were told to go to college and it's easy.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (87EdW)"

And a lot of the rest of us just get bored. I dropped out of the Masters program I was in for psychometrics. Social sciences don't need to be 4 year degrees.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:19 PM (oZ6kz)

94 I just returned from voting. As I do every year, I drove back the long way through some very nice neighborhoods. I like getting into a time machine, and going back through what looks like the Cleavers' Mayfield.

But of course, I've long known that nowadays, those houses are dominated by Whine Moms who think we are just too, too.

But today, most of the signs were for Republican candidates.

Progress? Or illusion?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (ZbwAu)

Depends on the candidates.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (o4fG0)

95 Wanna know a secret?

90% of "local" reporting is copied and pasted from the press release

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (8t2C7)

96 91 Soon they will be able to get up close and personal with the homeless.


Or a Starbucks restroom.

Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (88xKn)

97
Now, urinalism, on the other hand, is thriving Those bowls are not going to swab themselves and someone has to replace the urinal cakes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (pNxlR)

98 10 PRINT "Learn to Code!"
20 GOTO 10
30 END

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05


***

Grad level stuff.

C:
C: Run
Run C: Run

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (axyOa)

99 . . . seal independent journalists' work from twitter and blogs and call it "Exclusive!!".

See: Tiana Lowe, "you should be happy I'm giving your work a wider audience (without attribution)"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:19 PM (bDqIh)

That's a funny way to spell "social media influencer"

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (KUaJL)

100 Please send donuts! Stuck in mid-town office building without anything to do! Need donuts.

Posted by: Brian Donuts Stelter at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (LISuA)

101 "So you're saying that my chances of eventually getting every Ivy League journalism school named 'The Jim Accoster Congressional Medal of Honor and Purple Heart Memorial School of Journalism' ... have, um, pardon the phrase gone down faster than my wife on Jake Tapper? Asking for a friend ..." -- Jim Accoster

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (sNzC+)

102 88- sorry for any offense given

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (87EdW)

103 It's a lot of hard work. Long days and nights. You start at the bottom and work your way up in the news room. I'll tell ya, It's all worth it when you reach the top.The benefits are really something.

Posted by: MATT "At Your 6" LAUER at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (lMn1U)

104 But now we have supposed journalists who just read teleprompters or plagerize NY Times articles.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (xO9gM)

Or plagiarize Smart Military Blogs.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (o4fG0)

105 In the immortal words of that guy on here who's name I forget:

LOL get fucked.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

106 >> Yes, yes, yes, I wouldn't say that journalism is waning, I would say it's appeal is becoming more selective.


"Yup"
-- The Newseum, come quick before we close!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (bDqIh)

107 13 live online classes over a year with me cost 800.00 bucks. I have placed students all over Tech including HP, Verizon, GMAC, McAfeee etc.

Good article from Insty on the Cuck Class here:
https://humanevents.com/2019/11/04/the-downfall-of-conservatism-inc/

Posted by: David Prince at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (JkygK)

108 I don't think anyone is offended Bob, anyone who has a bachelors in Psych knows it's basically as good as if it came out of a cereal box.

My degree is in Theology, which is potentially even worse.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (oZ6kz)

109 Are there no work houses?


Here's a thing in New Hampshire, looks like a Depression relic. Willing Workers Hall.

http://bit.ly/36AOGBZ

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (gd9RK)

110 Hey! The world needs starving artists and ditch diggers too.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (Pzzpr)

111 You know who is a real "journalist"?

James O'Keefe

He's fricken fearless.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (jUVms)

112 Arguably, if one wishes to go into "journalism" (indeed, depending on what that means), studying classical lit., or even English would be far better than learning to formally spin the wrenches of advocacy journalism.

However, anything but hyper-specialization is contrary to orthodoxy in higher ed. today.

Posted by: DC at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (/TvO8)

113 There's still room in LA Tent City! BYODope!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (RVnO7)

114 Another big crack in the wall. This was written by retired FBI agent and CNN contributor. Some are waking up.

>>I am physically nauseous as I type these words. I have long maintained that innocent mistakes were made and that the investigators at the center of this maelstrom were entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

>>No more.

>>They have tarnished the badge and forever stained an agency that deserved so much better from them. I am ashamed. The irreparable damage Comey's team has done to the FBI will take a generation to reverse.

https://tinyurl.com/y6rvohgs

I bet his days at CNN are over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (ZLI7S)

115 "Yes, yes, yes, I wouldn't say that journalism is waning, I would say it's appeal is becoming more selective.
Posted by: Ian Faith,"


Yup. Guys like Dave Portnoy at Barstool Sports have become rich over the last few years by smartly realizing millenial libs are a actually a small (paying) customer base and there a whole lot of people not being served by the media.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (OD2ni)

116 Hey! I have a BS in psychology (how appropriate)! I had an ROTC scholarship, and all you need is a degree to be an Army officer....doesn't matter the field. Psych was fairly easy, fairly interesting, and had a good female to male ratio, so it was great!

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM



****

Ahh...a MI guy!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (axyOa)

117 Learn to code weld.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (88+cf)

118 96 91 Soon they will be able to get up close and personal with the homeless.


Or a Starbucks restroom.
Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (88xKn)

10 things you didn't know about cleaning up an intravenous drug-abusing homeless guy's explosive fecal incident (number 7 will astound you)!

Posted by: Starbucks Journal clickbait at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (RD7QR)

119 DO NOT EAT THE URINAL CAKES.

THANK YOU

Posted by: Starbucks Bathrom Sign at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (J1rqr)

120 In selling out completely and utterly to Obama the American press killed itself. Unlike Jeffrey Epstine, who didn't.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (xO9gM)

121 JamesOKeefeIII's avatar
James O'Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
BREAKING: @ABC News President @jamesgoldston speaks to @Project_Veritas reporter on NYC Street, "I will give you a comment as soon as we've had a look at it. Don't know anything about it."

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (BqBId)

122 The Democrat party should be paying them. Seems fair based on how completely they have sold out to the left.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (sjdRT)

123 The media did scream loud and long at LBJ and mock him at every opportunity. It was markedly different from the *cough* Jugears-like *cough* adoration in which they'd held JFK. I'm not sure why, as LBJ was a Dem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM

NE lib wing of the party vs. Southern wing. LBJ's accent and coarse manner horrified the elites from Hahvahd.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (COzlW)

124 88 26 And practically every University has a psychology major, yet there are literally 0 jobs for which that prepares one. And yet, it's generally the top major.


From my current research, female DI athletes love the Psychology major.

They appear to use it to become wives, following a few months or years of painful experience in the field of Social Work.

I don't think it's necessarily a useless major, but it seems a bit ... popular unrelated to its ROI?

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (Rarvo)

125 If I had my way, Journalism would be a 2 year trade school degree.

You don't need 4 years of college to do that job, and it'll remove a lot of the pride that the journalistic class has in their superiority over the average American.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (KUaJL)


Yep.

Or in the alternative, raise the academic standards dramatically. Require extensive coursework in a STEM subject, or economics, or history, something like that. I'd actually require more work in those subjects than in writing news articles, which could probably be taught separately in a semester.

Then at least the people covering stories would not be pig ignorant about the subject matter of their stories.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (hGXZE)

126 >>That's a funny way to spell "social media influencer"



Is that what she bills herself as?

social media influencer = paid promoter of products

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (bDqIh)

127 People will never give up on the classic American dream, which is to grow up in the upper middle class, get a journalism degree while spending most of your college years getting wasted, watching Netflix and deciding which brand of gay you'd like to be for four years, then writing easy click bait stories until you get promoted to a job with an office that has a rape button.

It's a tale as old as baseball, mom and apple pie.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:23 PM (oZ6kz)

128 10 PRINT "Learn to Code!"
20 GOTO 10
30 END

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05


***

Grad level stuff.

C:
C: Run
Run C: Run

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:20 PM (axyOa)


OpCode Trap: Error code 0x800034

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)

129 They haven't been journalists for decades.

They are Affirmation propaganda seekers. They have though extended the job title to include '...fact suppressors'

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (tL/BP)

130 BREAKING: @ABC News President @jamesgoldston speaks to @Project_Veritas reporter on NYC Street, "I will give you a comment as soon as we've had a look at it. Don't know anything about it."


yeah Im sure he'll get right on that

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (Rarvo)

131 Learn to plumber. That's still pushing shit through a pipe.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (88+cf)

132 No job prospects, maybe, but they will have a giant mountain of debt to show for it! Yay!

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (xptlg)

133
And we were singing
Bye, bye, you suckers of cock
Thought we'd teach driver's ed
But that's the province of jocks. .

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (pNxlR)

134 10 things you didn't know about cleaning up an intravenous drug-abusing homeless guy's explosive fecal incident (number 7 will astound you)!
Posted by: Starbucks Journal clickbait at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (RD7QR)

---------
I've heard those meth turds are horrendous. HORRENDOUS.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (jUVms)

135 123 The media did scream loud and long at LBJ and mock him at every opportunity. It was markedly different from the *cough* Jugears-like *cough* adoration in which they'd held JFK. I'm not sure why, as LBJ was a Dem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM

NE lib wing of the party vs. Southern wing. LBJ's accent and coarse manner horrified the elites from Hahvahd.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019


*
*

Ah. Refighting the Civil War, sort of.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM (Ejm1K)

136 So when you look at the actual real-world facts, you're pessimistic, but when you look at the delusions of naive and stupid 19 year olds, you feel "optimistic"?

Optimistic for what? Optimistic for your own economic prospects, given that the army of the ignorant seems inexhaustible?
________

It's not all cynicism. It's a case of a real fit between the professors' existing delusions, and their interest. Florence King used to call the former "The Bright Shining Faces Fallacy."

Ace should remember the real wisdom of his earlier posts about how much self___ matters to people. He was absolutely right. It's easy to say "it's all about the money", but that's at best incomplete.

Also never forget that both by selection and training, journolismists are utterly incapable from distinguishing among facts, interpretations, and delusions. The 3 categories are simply not distinct in their minds.

If they were truly cynical and self interested, they'd be in law school.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (ZbwAu)

137 Hmmmm, so you're a dupe who wanted to become an activist. Oh I mean journalist, LOL. And you're 150K in debt for it and you're a barista. Taps give O' fuckometer. Nope. It's on zero.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (U7cQ/)

138 If I had my way, Journalism would be a 2 year trade school degree.

You don't need 4 years of college to do that job, and it'll remove a lot of the pride that the journalistic class has in their superiority over the average American.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (KUaJL)


On a similar note, is there a convincing argument why law school has to be three years?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (N4xQB)

139 "See: Tiana Lowe, "you should be happy I'm giving your work a wider audience (without attribution)"


After seeing some pics of Tiana Lowe in a low cut gown with the goods hanging out, I'll forgive her.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (OD2ni)

140 127- I pick lesbian!

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (87EdW)

141 You know what was/is pretty fulfilling? Being able to pay debt off.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (ycWCI)

142 We have code generators already. Bots beat them to the job.

Posted by: henry at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (JMDly)

143 You know who is a real "journalist"?

James O'Keefe

He's fricken fearless.
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (jUVms)


There are a few left out there.

He should win Pulitzer's left and right.

Sharyl Attkisson is another.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

144 When Tiana Lowe eventually gravitates to her natural profession, do you think she'll steal tips from other dancers?

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (oZ6kz)

145 NE lib wing of the party vs. Southern wing. LBJ's accent and coarse manner horrified the elites from Hahvahd.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019


Ah. Refighting the Civil War, sort of.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:24 PM

Sounds like the nevertrumpers of today.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (U7cQ/)

146 I bet his days at CNN are over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM (ZLI7S)


Yep. No doughnuts in the Green Room with the Tater.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

147 Sharyl Attkisson is another.
Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

--------

Good point. She's been courageous too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (jUVms)

148 108
I don't think anyone is offended Bob, anyone who has a bachelors in
Psych knows it's basically as good as if it came out of a cereal box.

My degrees in Psych so i use it on Heidi and you know how far thats gotten me. I've used psych, reverse psych, double triple spinning psych, reality psych. Freudian, Jungian, Maslowian, and once tried to get her to hold on to battery cables. Nada.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (RVnO7)

149 On a similar note, is there a convincing argument why law school has to be three years?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (N4xQB)


There used to be an Bachelor's Degree in Law that you could get and then take the bar exam. They got rid of it years ago, but there are still a few judges around who had it, IIRC.

Personally, I think the bar exam requirements should be similar to the CPA exam requirements, which used to be generally that you had a bachelors degree and a certain number of hours of accounting classes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (wCmLp)

150 My favorite story about the Buzzfeed layoff at the beginning of the year was that the person who was responsible for a lot their revenue was a college person (woman, I think?) who created a ton of popular listicles -- for free!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (bDqIh)

151 >>131
Learn to plumber. That's still pushing shit through a pipe.

Go on.

Posted by: Shep at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (Pzzpr)

152 This article is fire.

>>Here's me, acknowledging my mistake. I was dead wrong. It now seems there was a concerted effort, though isolated, within the upper-echelons of the FBI to influence the outcome of the Flynn investigation. By "dirtying up" Flynn, Comey's FBI headquarters team of callow sycophants shortcut the investigative process. Arm-twisting Flynn through the "tweaked" version of his interview afforded him criminal exposure. The cocksure Comey team felt supremely confident that would inspire him "flipping" and give them the desperately sought-after evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that the wholly unverified Steele dossier was never remotely capable of providing.

Keep in mind this is a career FBI guy saying this not a Trump fan.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (ZLI7S)

153 It's a lot of hard work. Long days and nights. You start at the bottom and work your way up in the news room. I'll tell ya, It's all worth it when you reach the top.The benefits are really something.
Posted by: MATT "At Your 6" LAUER at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (lMn1U)


Well Matt certainly started at the bottom: of several of his female co-workers, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (hGXZE)

154 On a similar note, is there a convincing argument why law school has to be three years?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (N4xQB)

If by "convincing argument" you mean "lawyers argue for a living" then yes, there's a very convincing (and billable at about $500 an hour) argument for it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (KUaJL)

155 I had my way, Journalism would be a 2 year trade school degree.

You don't need 4 years of college to do that job, and it'll remove a lot of the pride that the journalistic class has in their superiority over the average American.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:18 PM (KUaJL)

My good friend, rest his soul, was an award winning , top investigative reporter for the American Press in Louisiana. He had no degree, though he did give college a try for a year or two.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (tL/BP)

156 "Sharyl Attkisson is another.
Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

--------

Good point. She's been courageous too.
Posted by: Seems Legit"


And a major MILF to boot.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (OD2ni)

157 >147
Sharyl Attkisson is another.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)



--------



Good point. She's been courageous too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (jUVms)


Molly Hemingway, Sara Carter, Money Honey

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (sjdRT)

158 When Tiana Lowe eventually gravitates to her natural profession, do you think she'll steal tips from other dancers?
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:26 PM (oZ6kz)


Her natural profession is chubby wine mom creating drama in the drop off lane of her upscale neighborhood school.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 02:28 PM (wCmLp)

159 I also seem to remember a story a couple days ago where University of Chicago (?!?) is going to cost over 100K per year?!?

What the actual hell? That is insane. 400k for a four year degree? Even if you picked well and did well, like Engineering, that is a very tall mountain of debt to climb for anyone. What the hell would be the monthly 10 year repayment on that be?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (ycWCI)

160 Ambassador Gordon Sondland has 'refreshed [his] recollection and amended earlier testimony and is now saying there was quid pro quo.. Geez.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (wiXsO)

161 21 Oh so you're mocking the only degree that makes you an expert in any topic you write on?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (k81AA)

________


"Mock my Certificate from the Harriman Institute of the Soviet Union at Columbia ... at your peril, asshole!" -- Tom Nichols

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (43VTL)

162 I think in California you can still "read the law" ie study under the tutelage of an attorney, and take the bar. In fact, I think a Kardashian is attempting it.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (87EdW)

163 On a similar note, is there a convincing argument why law school has to be three years?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:25 PM (N4xQB)

There used to be an Bachelor's Degree in Law that you could get and then take the bar exam. They got rid of it years ago, but there are still a few judges around who had it, IIRC.

Personally, I think the bar exam requirements should be similar to the CPA exam requirements, which used to be generally that you had a bachelors degree and a certain number of hours of accounting classes.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (wCmLp)


At one time in California you could become licensed to practice law merely by passing the California bar exam, which (I've been informed) was particularly difficult for that reason.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (hGXZE)

164 Posted by: MATT "At Your 6" LAUER at November 05, 2019 02:21 PM (lMn1U)

Shouldn't that be "Up Your 6"?

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (Zz0t1)

165 CO Alex: 18 hours now required in grad school now required in most states to sit for the CPA.

Colorado requires a license to set well pumps. Tennessee used to, and maybe still does, require a license to braid hair.

On the front range they want to dramatically limit building permits when people are moving here in droves.

At the same time it is becoming harder and harder to work.

Posted by: David Prince at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (JkygK)

166 OT: What if we could could trade Puerto Rico back to Spain, and in exchange they have to stop harassing the Brits about Gibraltar?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (N4xQB)

167 12 ways that soy vs. milk is a metaphor for woke vs. fascist (number 6 will leave you nonplussed!)

Posted by: Starbucks Journal clickbait at November 05, 2019 02:30 PM (RD7QR)

168 108
I don't think anyone is offended Bob, anyone who has a bachelors in
Psych knows it's basically as good as if it came out of a cereal box.



My degree is in Theology, which is potentially even worse.


philosophy here.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:30 PM (sGtp+)

169 Sorry for going O/T. The funniest thing I've read today:
The Epstein story didn't kill itself!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 05, 2019 02:30 PM (vGJY7)

170 166 OT: What if we could could trade Puerto Rico back to Spain, and in exchange they have to stop harassing the Brits about Gibraltar?


lol why would Spain do this it's a lose/lose!

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 02:31 PM (Rarvo)

171 What if we could could trade Puerto Rico back to Spain, and in exchange they have to stop harassing the Brits about Gibraltar?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (N4xQB)

Nah, we trade Puerto Rico to Cuba for 2 left handed Pitchers, a Catcher, and a Center Fielder

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2019 02:31 PM (cEsBM)

172 I think in California you can still "read the law" ie study under the tutelage of an attorney, and take the bar. In fact, I think a Kardashian is attempting it.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (87EdW)


Yup. I still think we're in the timeline where sometime in the future, Kim Kardashian will argue a case before SCOTUS which includes Associate Justice Tiffany Trump.

And I'm ok with that.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 02:31 PM (wCmLp)

173 Molly Hemingway, Sara Carter, Money Honey
Posted by: Muad'dib at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (sjdRT)


-----

Molly has been amazing.

I'd have to include Ronan Farrow *cough* he's nuts but at least he's willing to go against the grain.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 02:31 PM (jUVms)

174 39 I used to work in local live tv. My job got automated away. Lots of jobs in teh media are being automated away.



Yet schools are still pumping out grads in broadcasting classes like there is no tomorrow.



/we're going to need more coding jobs

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 05, 2019 02:12 PM (HNyOC)


I got out of radio 20 years ago right at the time consolidation of ownership started happening. The market went from having 8 or 9 mostly local owners to 2 out of town mega broadcasters. Lots of jobs lost. Fewer accountants since that could be centralized, fewer engineers since 1 can now work multiple stations in the same building/tower site, fewer ad salespeople since they can now sell for multiple stations, and fewer DJ's and newspeople.


They found out quickly that it was cheaper and easier to pick up shows off a satellite and broadcast them than paying individuals to do the same thing. Kind of like what newspapers are doing these days with just running AP stories instead of having a reporter of their own cover it.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2019 02:31 PM (I8FKK)

175 166 OT: What if we could could trade Puerto Rico back to Spain, and in exchange they have to stop harassing the Brits about Gibraltar?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (N4xQB)

Do something about Catalonia and they might be interested.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (RD7QR)

176 As I tell my children, there has never been a time when knowing something has been worth less than it is now.

Any knowledge can be acquired in seconds (or less) through an internet search.

It's what you can do that's valuable.

May be time to run that Alec Baldwin video from Glengarry Glenross, again.

Posted by: OCBill at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (df+Zi)

177 117 Learn to code weld.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 02:22 PM

Eewww. That sounds like a hot pile of sweaty toxic masculinity! And I bet burning all those cases produces a lot of global warming! Maybe I can make hemp-fiber hats to sell on Etsy...

Posted by: Modern Millennial Journalism Major at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (IfpGX)

178 CO Alex: 18 hours now required in grad school now required in most states to sit for the CPA.

Colorado requires a license to set well pumps. Tennessee used to, and maybe still does, require a license to braid hair.

On the front range they want to dramatically limit building permits when people are moving here in droves.

At the same time it is becoming harder and harder to work.
Posted by: David Prince at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM (JkygK)


Thanks. I looked up the CPA requirements years ago and it was still undergrad degree for most states. Sad that they keep pushing up the requirements.

The "professionalization" of so many industries is a problem for our society.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (wCmLp)

179 168 108
I don't think anyone is offended Bob, anyone who has a bachelors in
Psych knows it's basically as good as if it came out of a cereal box.



My degree is in Theology, which is potentially even worse.

philosophy here.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:30 PM (sGtp+)

Which can be very useful if you were a logician.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)

180 Probably the leftwing Drudge Report website and broadsheet is hiring qualified interns. #Resist!

Posted by: Ten at November 05, 2019 02:33 PM (CPWXU)

181 "The Daily Orange"? When did Trump start a newspaper?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 05, 2019 02:33 PM (CQ3Qb)

182 To get a Real Estate license in Louisiana used to be hard as hell. Covered both common law and Napoleonic law that was still on the books.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:34 PM (tL/BP)

183 I found my philosophy classes, especially epistemology and the philosophy of science, very valuable to me when I...wait for it...wait for it...

#LearnedToCode...

Really, I did. But they don't teach this now. It's intersectional feminism from top to bottom.

Posted by: David Prince at November 05, 2019 02:34 PM (JkygK)

184 Yeah its a racket for those journo majors, but at least they may be able to write a proper sentence, however the worst racket has to be any of those "Blank Studies" programs. women's studies, latino studies, etc.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 02:35 PM (r+sAi)

185 Folks up here will pay to have their dog poop picked up when the snow melts.
So there's that.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 02:35 PM (88+cf)

186 165
Colorado requires a license to set well pumps. Tennessee used to, and maybe still does, require a license to braid hair.

On the front range they want to dramatically limit building permits when people are moving here in droves.

At the same time it is becoming harder and harder to work.
Posted by: David Prince at November 05, 2019 02:29 PM

Good to see all the refugees from California are bringing the infection with them.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 05, 2019 02:35 PM (IfpGX)

187 Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.

Start with some evidence, Dana. Just some.

This bullshit about a potential investigation being a "thing of value" under FEC guidelines is bullshit. Even if you get a judge to say it, it's bullshit. It's not the way the law was written.

At one point the highest judge in the land said that black people could never be full citizens of the United States, and that Illinois' laws about slaves brought into their territory were a "taking" and illigitimate.

Judges can say anything.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (YOhRS)

188 Yeah its a racket for those journo majors, but at least they may be able to write a proper sentence, however the worst racket has to be any of those "Blank Studies" programs. women's studies, latino studies, etc.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 02:35 PM (r+sAi)


Hopefully it will lead to them being able to speak proper English without saying "like" every 3rd word.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

189 As I tell my children, there has never been a time when knowing something has been worth less than it is now.

Any knowledge can be acquired in seconds (or less) through an internet search.

It's what you can do that's valuable.

Posted by: OCBill at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (df+Zi)


I would clarify that, and say that it's easy to find facts quickly on the Internet, but, at the same time, paradoxically, it's easier than ever to learn skills through the Internet.

MIT, for example, has many STEM courses available online. Khan Academy is a treasure trove, as is Duolingo. And all are ... totally free.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (hGXZE)

190 Kids are getting psych degrees so they can put a college degree on a resume. It doesn't matter what the degree is they just need that box checked. Companies can't choose the best applicant by background or proficancy tests anymore. So now everyone has to have a college degree to prove they have the intelligence to learn the job. simple really. High school students are utterly convinced that they MUST go to college to get any job at all but don't have a clue as to what they really want to study. Psych degrees are the easiest and high school counselors are actively recommending this to students who don't know what to study in college

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (myjNJ)

191 Much as the journalistic pursuit of a crooked president in the 1970s
inspired a generation, another leader who denounces reporters as enemies
on a nearly daily basis has given birth to a new resolve: Enrollment in
journalism programs is up.


Two comments: 1) you're 8-years too late to cover a crooked president, and 2) fools and their money, some disassembly required.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (77WPm)

192 183 "It's intersectional feminism from top to bottom."

Sounds hot.

Posted by: OCBill at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (df+Zi)

193 >>Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.


While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.

Posted by: Jasper at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (4L8Yt)

194 One building here has 5 formerly competing (sort of) radio stations. Lots of call letters on one brick wall.

Posted by: klaftern at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (RuIsu)

195 48
The word journalism itself can be deceiving. A journal is a diary, so to
speak, of one's observations and observations are rife with one's
opinions of whatever is being observed. Quite the opposite from
reporting, which is the simple recounting of who, what, when and where
something happened. Notice that I left out the why, because the why
invites interpretation and therefore opinion and agenda.


in the journalism class i took in 5th grade, the fifth w was "how". the instructor said "why is for the editorial page."

Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (sGtp+)

196

What's This?

Volker's "testimony" was changed??

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (JI/0U)

197 Learn to landscape.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (Pzzpr)

198 Folks up here will pay to have their dog poop picked up when the snow melts.
So there's that.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 02:35 PM (88+cf)


This just in: universities are now starting to offer degrees in "Poop Scooping Studies," a bargain at only $50,000 a year in tuition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (hGXZE)

199 Fukkem.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (macz7)

200 193 >>Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.


While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.
Posted by: Jasper at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (4L8Yt)

Poor thing, his lot in life could only be worse if she put stupid costumes on him over the holidays.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (RD7QR)

201 Eewww. That sounds like a hot pile of sweaty toxic masculinity! And I bet burning all those cases produces a lot of global warming! Maybe I can make hemp-fiber hats to sell on Etsy...
Posted by: Modern Millennial Journalism Major at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (IfpGX)
-----------------

Considering your generation appears to have all the dexterity of an ungulate with Parkinsons Disease, that'll probably work out well.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (qC1Sy)

202 Notice how not one of her worries is "find out what paying customers want?"

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (k81AA)

203 193
>>Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.





While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.


does wendy know about this?

Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (sGtp+)

204 I tell my children, there has never been a time when knowing something has been worth less than it is now.

Any knowledge can be acquired in seconds (or less) through an internet search.

It's what you can do that's valuable.

Posted by: OCBill at November 05, 2019 02:32 PM (df+Zi)

So all the morons here who I thought were smart are just googling ? Damn you !!

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (tL/BP)

205 Learn to landscape.
Posted by: Galil


Que, ese? No trabajo.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (NJ+n1)

206 159 I also seem to remember a story a couple days ago where University of Chicago (?!?) is going to cost over 100K per year?!?

One of my kid's friends graduated, interned, residented his way to $350,000 in debt upon graduation as a pediatric oral surgeon. At his wedding we learned his new wife graduated as an anesthesiologist with another $150,000 in debt.

That was right before Obama's second inauguration. Glad to report they have a growing family in Midland, TX and are doing well.

Posted by: DanMan at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (XTiHL)

207 182
To get a Real Estate license in Louisiana used to be hard as hell.
Covered both common law and Napoleonic law that was still on the books.


Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:34 PM (tL/BP)

Louisiana also requires a pretty strict license to braid hair and apply fake nails.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (CQ3Qb)

208 Journalisting to the left.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (YOhRS)

209 Well, that was an eventful three hours.

I needed to go out to the drug store, the grocery store, and to vote. It took me longer than I expected to get ready. I didn't leave the house until 11:00, and a home care nurse was due at 12:30. Also, yesterday someone from the trucking company called and said my bed would be delivered between 1:00 and 5:00. So I figured that I still had enough time to run my errands and get back home.

I returned at 12:40, and the nurse wasn't there yet. As I was unloading my car, she pulled up. About 30 seconds later, the Pitt Ohio truck pulled up. Yesterday there was some question whether the bed would be delivered on a pallet and/or whether the driver would be willing to move the boxes into my house. Would he just leave a pallet in my driveway? If the latter, would the boxes take up my whole living room?

The driver was super friendly and moved the boxes into my house. There were three large and heavy boxes, but they were thin and he propped them up vertically so they don't take up much room at all. I can easily maneuver around them for a few days until I can get the old bed moved out.

The nurse stayed for an hour. She said she was going to give me physical therapy but said that she could see that I had had a busy day and was moving around pretty well, so she will be back tomorrow for the PT.

Honestly, this all worked out perfectly. I could not have planned it any better if I tried.

Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (yQlY7)

210 >>Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.


Well, she's not wrong, at least in my case. First of all, there would have to be an actual, you know, crime attached to actual evidence before we start talking about minds being changed.

So far, she (and the Democrats, BIRM) are zero and zero on both of those scores.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (77WPm)

211 Get Woke Go Broke
seems apropos
Sadly, nothing will change till the "Journ0lisming" professors are both gone, and replaced by educators who can at least credibly pretend not to be left-wing ideologues. What's that, 20? 40? 50? years?

Posted by: random lurker commenter at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (48RE5)

212 208 Journalisting to the left.
Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (YOhRS)
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Probably because it's been holed below the waterline.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (qC1Sy)

213 193 >>Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.


While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.
Posted by: Jasper at November 05, 2019 02:37 PM (4L8Yt)

==========

What's it going to take CNN viewers to realize that Russia didn't change vote totals in voting machines in Michigan during 2016?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (q80AH)

214 Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.


#1. Actual wrongdoing.
#2. LOLGFY Sugartits.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (NJ+n1)

215 Kids are getting psych degrees so they can put a college degree on a resume. It doesn't matter what the degree is they just need that box checked. Companies can't choose the best applicant by background or proficiency tests anymore.

Thank Griggs v. Duke Power.

I'm selling certificates that for $500 will certify that the bearer is not a hood rat. Much cheaper and quicker than a pointless college degree. I still need to work on the partying angle, however.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (hGXZE)

216 There used to be an Bachelor's Degree in Law that
you could get and then take the bar exam. They got rid of it years ago,
but there are still a few judges around who had it, IIRC.



Personally, I think the bar exam requirements should be similar to
the CPA exam requirements, which used to be generally that you had a
bachelors degree and a certain number of hours of accounting classes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 02:27 PM (wCmLp)


In Virginia you can sit for the bar exam without going to law school, but I believe you have to get a member of the bar to vouch for you. I know a few people that went this route, they worked for a small law firm as a paralegal or legal aide for a few years, got the attorney to vouch for them, and then passed the bar. They can only practice in Virginia, and then if admitted to the regional federal courts, there.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (I8FKK)

217 That was right before Obama's second inauguration. Glad to report they have a growing family in Midland, TX and are doing well.
Posted by: DanMan at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (XTiHL)

That's fantastic. They both chose well. Betting they are still making payments though. Half a million is a cool stack of change.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (ycWCI)

218 203
193

>>Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.








While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.

does wendy know about this?


Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM (sGtp+)


OKAY Dana- and that is.....????? Oh that's right there isn't any cause PDT hasn't done anything except offend your sensibilities.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (ymnmz)

219 You Must Be THIS Ignorant to Ride This Ride

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (E+OcO)

220 >>193 >>Just heard Perino say

I saw a short clip of her the other day and her head is turning into a Skeletor head.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (Pzzpr)

221 Personally, I hate, loathe, and despise 99.999% of journalist whores. There is no need or value intrinsic in thrusting a microphone into the face of a grieving family or friend and asking them to describe how they felt when they heard their loved one had been raped or murdered. But, that's just the treatment for ordinary people. Powerful people (Democrats) can rape, murder, commit pedophilia, and engage in Satanism and pedophilia and the press either doesn't pursue the story or is pulled off the story. Then we have the press reportage that contains not one iota of truth or fact checking--provided the reports concern Trump or someone like him.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (kXoT0)

222 Seismic evidence? Heh. They dont have enough to jiggle a fleas balls.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (macz7)

223 Honestly, this all worked out perfectly. I could not have planned it any better if I tried.
Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (yQlY7)
-------------

Thank you for the update and glad you're up and about.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (qC1Sy)

224 I contend the media killed itself.

When they started to self identify as Journalist vice Reporters, it showed a change in mindset.

A Journal is a personal document about how you feel about something. Its YOUR observations.

A report is a factual document, ie who what when where how.

People don't really CARE about how your feel about something, they need FACTS so they can decide how THEY feel about something.

MSM has killed itself.

Look at the change at Fox News. It used to be NEWS all the time, now its Journalists talking to other Journalists, about subjects they really don't know squat about.

Yet it fills the airwaves.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

225 While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.

does wendy know about this?
Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM

I don't think Peter was interested in the ladies anyway.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (U7cQ/)

226 Learn to landscape.
Posted by: Galil


Que, ese? No trabajo.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM


***

Si! Not so fast Yanqi!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (axyOa)

227 OT, but for those who watch/read progressive sites, have you noticed recent reports on Buttigieg regarding minority voters? Several things I've seen recently mention him rising in the polls, the MSM pushing him, but he does poorly with minority voters, so he can't be a successful Dem candidate. Then, the make sure to stress that minority voters aren't homophobic, and it's actually based on his failures as mayor, firing a minority police chief, etc.

I'm thinking internal polling is already showing Trump doing well with minorities, and two of the four Dems (Warren and Buttigieg) are duds for that critical Dem voting block.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (IfpGX)

228 Lucky for me I majored in Buggy Whippery

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (flINI)

229 >>What's it going to take CNN viewers to realize that Russia didn't change vote totals in voting machines in Michigan during 2016?


Probably a NetFlix series with Zombie Lebians.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (4L8Yt)

230 Honestly, this all worked out perfectly. I could not have planned it any better if I tried.
Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (yQlY7)

Good to hear, rickl.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (ycWCI)

231 I think that's what recruiters get the big bucks for Deplorable Jay. That's actually not a bad idea.

Posted by: David Prince at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (JkygK)

232
We're going to pretend the fake whistleblower is anonymous.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (JI/0U)

233 >>219
You Must Be THIS Ignorant to Ride This Ride

Learn to Carny.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (Pzzpr)

234 Sadly, nothing will change till the "Journ0lisming" professors are both gone, and replaced by educators who can at least credibly pretend not to be left-wing ideologues. What's that, 20? 40? 50? years?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at November 05, 2019 02:39 PM (48RE5)


I hold out high hopes for online education. It really is the way of the future. Study the stuff on your own, submit your work for evaluation, then when you're ready, show up for an in-person examination. If you pass, you're now certified.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (hGXZE)

235 I don't think Peter was interested in the ladies anyway.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (U7cQ/)

Well, to him, developmentally, Wendy was an older woman.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (ycWCI)

236 Yes, a college degree basically only says "Okay, even if you're a fuck-up at least you were able to show up often enough to meet the bare minimums."

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (oZ6kz)

237 Journalism-related: Mollie's response to O'Keefe's ABC hot mic video. O'Keefe is adding fuel to the fire of the MSM's downfall.

MZHemingway

Mollie Retweeted Jeremy Barr
In addition to these statements not actually being responsive to what the initial hot mic claims were, mostly what this shows is that ABC News has indefensibly different standards for, e.g., Kavanaugh allegations or Covington boys then it does Clinton-connected pedophiles.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (bDqIh)

238 In re, Perino, the only thing I like about her is her dog. He's a handsome fellow.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (kXoT0)

239 235 I don't think Peter was interested in the ladies anyway.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (U7cQ/)

Well, to him, developmentally, Wendy was an older woman.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (ycWCI)

==========

Posit:

You are an immortal with Highlander rules, but you don't find out until you die at 85 riddled with disease.

Do you chop your own head off?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (q80AH)

240 I majored in engineering, accounting and marketing. Just not at the same time.

Still managed to graduate in 4 years . A lot of good that did me.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (tL/BP)

241 lolgf, enemies of the people.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (1CjJc)

242 While smearing Peter Pan all over her thighs.

does wendy know about this?
Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 02:38 PM


Who's Wendy Pan?

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)

243 236 Yes, a college degree basically only says "Okay, even if you're a fuck-up at least you were able to show up often enough to meet the bare minimums."
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:42 PM (oZ6kz)

We used to be able to do that with just a high school diploma.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (KUaJL)

244 Of course all industries have gatekeeping. You really think there are only 50 given people in the world at any one time qualified to manage a major league baseball team? (The X's and O's side, at least, not the player and media relations aspect of it)

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (oZ6kz)

245 Just read a synopsis of Sondland's revised testimony- he stated he said aid was conditioned on a public anti-corruption statement. I'm so sick of this quid pro quo b.s. It's the new collusion. Conditioning and is not a crime, it's politics.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (87EdW)

246 Whippy buggery is more fun

Posted by: ... in the Navy . . . at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (ykYG2)

247 229 >>What's it going to take CNN viewers to realize that Russia didn't change vote totals in voting machines in Michigan during 2016?


Probably a NetFlix series with Zombie Lebians.
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (4L8Yt)

I knew things were bad in Lebanon but I had no idea about the zombies...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (RD7QR)

248 A B.A. degree awarded in 2020 will be roughly the equivalent value of a HS diploma from when I graduated (1984). So, much like cable, people are paying, through the nose, for something that used to be, more-or-less, "free".

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (77WPm)

249 Getting a journalism degree is right up there with teaching or gender studies. Nursing (elder daughter) and a as yet undecided but looking into a skilled trade (younger son) are ok by me.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (0OmEj)

250 I don't think Peter was interested in the ladies anyway.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM


Well, he was in the land of lost boys.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (axyOa)

251 >>Do you chop your own head off?


Small italian converitble and a semi.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:45 PM (4L8Yt)

252 Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.

-----

Strongly implying she herself is a Never Trumper.



And Jasper would love the Peter Pan.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 02:45 PM (8XRCm)

253 On Perrino.

First, you must tell me what CRIME he has committed.

Then show me evidence.

I'm not going to change my support based on Allegations that he DEFENDED HIMSELF against anonymous false allegations, which were not against the law in the first place.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 02:45 PM (NgKpN)

254 253 On Perrino.

First, you must tell me what CRIME he has committed.

Then show me evidence.

I'm not going to change my support based on Allegations that he DEFENDED HIMSELF against anonymous false allegations, which were not against the law in the first place.
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 02:45 PM (NgKpN)

=========

It's a crime to defeat Hillary Clinton in a race to the White House.

Obama's exempted because he's black, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (q80AH)

255 the army of the ignorant


Nicely turned.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (xQJTG)

256 228
Lucky for me I majored in Buggy Whippery

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (flINI)

Bummer for you, the whipped buggery market is about to explode.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (1CjJc)

257 Fox and soon other up and coming right leaning news orgs will still be hiring, but I'm guessing that's not who these budding journalists want to work for.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (F12Cs)

258 You are an immortal with Highlander rules, but you don't find out until you die at 85 riddled with disease.

Do you chop your own head off?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (q80AH)

I thought the Highlander 'rules' posited that you did not really have too many chronic conditions once made immortal? So, you'd be 85, but spry as hell?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (ycWCI)

259 OKAY Dana- and that is.....????? Oh that's right there isn't any cause PDT hasn't done anything except offend your sensibilities.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 05, 2019 02:40 PM (ymnmz)
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If possible information is involved in campaign finance regulation, what happened to the value of a well-informed public?

I would hope that if Trump came back with nothing but a bunch of baseless innuendo against Biden, manufactured by Ukraine, that the American people would make him pay for it.

Instead, we just get another helping of baseless innuendo against Trump that he's not letting the bureaucrats do their job and tell him what to do.

But I'll tell you, I don't think Trump knows how to do--or would do--that shtick where you pretend that somebody's very patriotism hangs on what they will swallow from an authority that they're seditionists for doubting.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (YOhRS)

260 I'm a believer in Trade Schools for everything.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (tL/BP)

261 I blame that commie POS Cronkite. The minute he opined on Vietnam and it did effect the war. He decided to become part of the story which is exactly the wrong way to go about it. Others saw that and decided they were going to let their opinion form the news. It was a slow roll at first and it's now not even feeble attempts at hiding it. The only good part is the net which is why these brownshirts want to ban anyone with a different opinion.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (U7cQ/)

262 Pysch degree = generic college degree.

It has value at exactly the same level as a non-specific IQ test result saying your IQ is probably not less than 90 and an affidavit from a reputable-sounding third party saying in their opinion you managed to be at least a high-functioning alcoholic for the better part of the 3-5 years required to obtain the degree.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (hdzef)

263 Just read a synopsis of Sondland's revised
testimony- he stated he said aid was conditioned on a public
anti-corruption statement.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (87EdW)

Um, even if true, uh... so?

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (77WPm)

264 >>And Jasper would love the Peter Pan.


I have a problem, Man.
Ican't help myself.


In my defense : If I threw up on her, I'd lick that up, too.

Posted by: Jasper at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (4L8Yt)

265 >> have you noticed recent reports on Buttigieg regarding minority voters?


A few weeks ago he was polling as "0" with blacks.

Zero.

A Democrat, a party that relies on getting almost all of the black vote and he's getting nothing. Even if the polling is off a little, how far could it be from zero???

They must be scrambling to figure out how he could be doing *this* bad, and it likely is more than just his poor performance as mayor. Probably some of his anti-Christian stuff, too, and. . .?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (bDqIh)

266 A B.A. degree awarded in 2020 will be roughly the equivalent value of a HS diploma from when I graduated (1984). So, much like cable, people are paying, through the nose, for something that used to be, more-or-less, "free".
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (77WPm)


I marvel at phones now. People pay $1000 to buy ... a phone?? I thought Starbucks had a racket in charging $5 for a cup of coffee, but $1000 for a phone is outrageous.

And to use the phone costs about ten times as much per month as a phone bill used to be. Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (hGXZE)

267 The Never Trumps love to stomp their feet about "What would it take for you to not vote for him?!?"

Honest answer: the consequences of Trump winning would have to worse then the consequences of what the left would do with that power, and I can't really think of any plausible thing he could say or do that would tip that balance. They seem unable to grasp that concept.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (N4xQB)

268 258 You are an immortal with Highlander rules, but you don't find out until you die at 85 riddled with disease.

Do you chop your own head off?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (q80AH)

I thought the Highlander 'rules' posited that you did not really have too many chronic conditions once made immortal? So, you'd be 85, but spry as hell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (ycWCI)

========

I don't know the rules that well, but I assumed you were just the age you originally died at. So, I didn't imagine an 85 year old immortal doing backflips while fighting with samurai swords.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (q80AH)

269 You are an immortal with Highlander rules, but you don't find out until you die at 85 riddled with disease.


-----

I'm immortal.... but dont find that out until I die ???

Que??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (8XRCm)

270 >>So, I didn't imagine an 85 year old immortal doing backflips while fighting with samurai swords.



And?

Posted by: RBG at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (4L8Yt)

271 Do journalism schools endorse the belief that the rules of grammar are white privilege?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (Uu+Jp)

272 -
--
Whippy buggery is more fun


Posted by: ... in the Navy . . . at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM

----------------

Golf clap.

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (pMGkg)

273 260
I'm a believer in Trade Schools for everything.





Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (tL/BP)

Those canals aren't going to dig themselves.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (1CjJc)

274 263- exactly. Not a crime or even out of the ordinary. PDT is being impeached for the crime of presidenting while not Hillary.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (87EdW)

275 have you noticed recent reports on Buttigieg regarding minority voters?


A few weeks ago he was polling as "0" with blacks.

Zero.

*********

Most Black people are mostly NOT cool with the Gheys

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (flINI)

276 My Son has a degree in law enforcement. He discovered his high school buddy makes 4x cop salary as a plumber. My son completed his apprenticeship this fall. He is a journeyman plumber now. He is happy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (macz7)

277 269
I'm immortal.... but dont find that out until I die ???

Que??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (8XRCm)

=========

You die once, and then you wake up immortal. You can then only be killed by getting your head chopped off.

It's a dumb set of rules, but some work people and I were going through some scenarios yesterday and it's stuck with me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

278 I thought journalists are trust fund red diaper doper babies who work for free.

Who knew?

Posted by: torabora at November 05, 2019 02:49 PM (0S5b6)

279 It's a crime to defeat Hillary Clinton in a race to the White House.

Obama's exempted because he's black, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (q80AH)


Owebama was supposed to lead to Hillary, but they knew that Hillary wouldn't lead to Owebama, so she was allowed to be defeated.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

280 Oh my god. This is priceless!!!


Years ago, graduates
beat a familiar path into low-level reporter jobs at newspapers or
television stations. That still happens, but when Kelly Barnett, head of
the Newhouse school's career counseling program, scrolls down the list
of jobs taken by recent alumni, she sees titles like digital editorial
assistant, social media producer, video streamer, social media
specialist.



ALL THE LULZ!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (wtvvX)

281 I don't know the rules that well, but I assumed you were just the age you originally died at. So, I didn't imagine an 85 year old immortal doing backflips while fighting with samurai swords.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (q80AH)

Yeah, I am not too steeped in the 'lore' on that one, but I at least got the idea that the transformation to immortal was something of a rejuvenating process.

Look, they were not exactly JRR Tolkien when they were laying all this stuff out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (ycWCI)

282 >> My Son has a degree in law enforcement. He discovered his high school buddy makes 4x cop salary as a plumber. My son completed his apprenticeship this fall. He is a journeyman plumber now. He is happy.



Every once in a while... when he is wrestling a turd at 9 PM on a Holiday, at 3 X Hourly for Holiday Services.
... he's gonna wish he knew an Electrician.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (4L8Yt)

283 These are problems not unlike those that bedevil executives two or three times her age -- evidence of how the news industry's woes have seeped onto campuses that try to harness youthful energy and idealism to turn out professionals who can inform the world.

lolgf of all lolgfs. The Singularity of lolgfs.

I just can't even.

Posted by: eleven at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (tH5fk)

284 You die once, and then you wake up immortal. You can then only be killed by getting your head chopped off.

It's a dumb set of rules, but some work people and I were going through some scenarios yesterday and it's stuck with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

-----

Fuckin Millenials.

Get off muh lawn.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (8XRCm)

285 267
The Never Trumps love to stomp their feet about "What would it take for you to not vote for him?!?"



Honest answer: the consequences of Trump winning would have to worse
then the consequences of what the left would do with that power, and I
can't really think of any plausible thing he could say or do that would
tip that balance. They seem unable to grasp that concept.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (N4xQB)

The better question is just how batshit crazy does the left have to get for nevertrump to realize that he is the only sane choice.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (1CjJc)

286 This is all basically a racket to get idiots to spend $150,000 they can never pay back"

Journalism or college in general?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (6qErC)

287
267 The Never Trumps love to stomp their feet about "What would it take for you to not vote for him?!?"


Let's start with you offing yourselves and then I'll tell you.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (pNxlR)

288 I don't know the rules that well, but I assumed you were just the age you originally died at. So, I didn't imagine an 85 year old immortal doing backflips while fighting with samurai swords.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM



And banging Roxanne Hart.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (axyOa)

289 I marvel at phones now. People pay $1000 to buy ... a
phone?? I thought Starbucks had a racket in charging $5 for a cup of
coffee, but $1000 for a phone is outrageous.



And to use the phone costs about ten times as much per month as a phone bill used to be. Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (hGXZE)

When I was a freshman undergraduate (again, 1984), I had to by a school-identified "personal computer" - a Digital Equipment Corporation PRO 350. 10 MB (that's MEGAbyte) HDD and twon 5.25" floppy drives. 10" monochrome (green) monitor. Cost about $3,200 (about $8K in today's money) and weighed a freaking ton.
My $725 iPhone Xr is about 1000x more powerful than that computer was.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (77WPm)

290 Hmmm, the DOW seems to be having another robust day as well.




Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (u6xw0)

291 #276 But your son doesn't get to engage in gunfights with maniacial drugged up.gunmen.

Posted by: torabora at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (0S5b6)

292 >> have you noticed recent reports on Buttigieg regarding minority voters?


A few weeks ago he was polling as "0" with blacks.

Zero.

A Democrat, a party that relies on getting almost all of the black vote and he's getting nothing. Even if the polling is off a little, how far could it be from zero???


Not even Don Lemon?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (hGXZE)

293 281 Yeah, I am not too steeped in the 'lore' on that one, but I at least got the idea that the transformation to immortal was something of a rejuvenating process.

Look, they were not exactly JRR Tolkien when they were laying all this stuff out.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (ycWCI)

==========

Are you implying that Highlander 2: The Quickening is somehow less worthwhile artistically than The Lord of the Rings?!?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (q80AH)

294
Reporters for the cause. Don't ask, it's the CAUSE!

#Orangemanbad! #Democrats Uber Alles!


This reminds me of the final days of the German army in WWII, where many of the ranks were made up of retired old men and young teen aged boys.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (sy5kK)

295 Grad level stuff.



C:

C: Run

Run C: Run



For SPOT = 1 to 100

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (HaL55)

296 All I can say is if you're going to be a plumber...don't be a big fat guy.

Posted by: eleven at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (tH5fk)

297 Instead, we just get another helping of baseless innuendo against Trump that he's not letting the bureaucrats do their job and tell him what to do.

But I'll tell you, I don't think Trump knows how to do--or would do--that shtick where you pretend that somebody's very patriotism hangs on what they will swallow from an authority that they're seditionists for doubting.
Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (YOhRS)

The two guys who were put in charge of 'anti corruption' have been CONVICTED in Ukraine of interfering in the 2016 US Election.

The released information on Manafort, at the behest of someone (or why get involved at all).

Manafort now sits in Jail, while others who were involved in the same exact series of events, ie the Podestas, have never been charged with squat.

The Dems are deathly afraid of this getting out. Of this being properly investigated.

Because, it proves THEY interfered in the election, using foreign agents.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 02:52 PM (NgKpN)

298 >>All I can say is if you're going to be a plumber...


New Construction Install, Only.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:52 PM (4L8Yt)

299 We're working on a $2000 phone.

It's all about the Benjamins.

Posted by: Woke Apple at November 05, 2019 02:52 PM (0S5b6)

300 I marvel at phones now. People pay $1000 to buy ... a phone?? I thought Starbucks had a racket in charging $5 for a cup of coffee, but $1000 for a phone is outrageous.

And to use the phone costs about ten times as much per month as a phone bill used to be. Go figure.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


But my phone (computer) does a hell of a lot more than make a call. I order guns, pay my bills, watch movies, order groceries, comment here, among other things.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:52 PM (NJ+n1)

301 227
OT, but for those who watch/read progressive sites, have you noticed
recent reports on Buttigieg regarding minority voters? Several things
I've seen recently mention him rising in the polls, the MSM pushing him,
but he does poorly with minority voters, so he can't be a successful
Dem candidate. Then, the make sure to stress that minority voters aren't
homophobic, and it's actually based on his failures as mayor, firing a
minority police chief, etc.



I'm thinking internal polling is already showing Trump doing well
with minorities, and two of the four Dems (Warren and Buttigieg) are
duds for that critical Dem voting block.

Posted by: Grimaldi at November 05, 2019 02:41 PM (IfpGX)


Warren, Pete, and Bernie are all polling poorly with minorities, it's why Bernie failed to Hillary last time. Biden does well with them because he was Obama's VP, but he doesn't "inspire" them to go out and vote.

There's no "historic" this election. The Dems have already had a woman and a minority candidate, so there really isn't the groundswell for one of the candidates.


And a hispanic candidate would fracture the party because the Dems seem to be pandering more and more to them at the expense of the AA bloc of the party.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2019 02:53 PM (I8FKK)

302 I want this on my next license plate

LRN2KOD

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 02:53 PM (FiUMj)

303 Whenever I do plumbing I expressly declare ALL waranties to be invalid once someone uses the toilet.

So. If you want me to come back and fix something, I suggest you sit in the sink.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (4L8Yt)

304 In other news:

I traveled to Nebraska City, NE last week and had a closed skull brain surgery to remove my Essential Tremor on my right side. I had an MRI guided Focused Ultrasound Ablation of the right side of my thalamus.

It's very strange to be completely bald, but, it is wonderful to be able to keep food on a fork and to write, etc. I am doing OK, but, the high dose cortisone wore off Sunday so there is some swelling of the brain, which has me feeling tired, dizzy, and I have no appetite.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (kXoT0)

305 Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:46 PM (tL/BP)

Those canals aren't going to dig themselves.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:48 PM (1CjJc)

Heavy equipment operator school.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (tL/BP)

306 298
>>All I can say is if you're going to be a plumber...





New Construction Install, Only.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:52 PM (4L8Yt)

You don't want to be a turd-wrangler?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (1CjJc)

307 >>The released information on Manafort, at the behest of someone (or why get involved at all).

Alexandra Chalupa while she was in the employ of the DNC and Hillary.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (ZLI7S)

308 test

Posted by: Jasper Moore at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (B+t5k)

309 But wait, there's more!!!


"What
I'm not going to tell an incoming student or parent is that there are
so many kinds of alternatives out there, that there are just as many
jobs out there," Hardin said, "because I don't think that's true."

And do you tell them that when they first visit the program? Or right before they walk across the stage at graduation???

LEARN TO FUCKIN' CODE!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (wtvvX)

310 300 I marvel at phones now. People pay $1000 to buy ... a phone?? I thought Starbucks had a racket in charging $5 for a cup of coffee, but $1000 for a phone is outrageous.


__

Nobody actually buys a $1000 phone. They pay $20/mo forever.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (FiUMj)

311 Psych degrees are the easiest and high school counselors are actively recommending this to students who don't know what to study in college

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (myjNJ)

If psych degrees are too hard, there's always communications, and if that's too hard there's international relations

Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (qAR6u)

312 My $725 iPhone Xr is about 1000x more powerful than that computer was.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (77WPm)


Sure. But what do people get for the money they spend on a phone now? The ability to make phone calls? Good. The ability to text? OK, I guess. The ability to take photographs of their chow and upload them to bore others? Not so good. The ability to play Angry Birds?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (hGXZE)

313 291
Yeah. He missed dealing daily with the dregs of society and animals who would kill you for a pack of smokes.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (macz7)

314 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (WI7YS)

315 LRN2POLLOCK!

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:55 PM (4L8Yt)

316 They buy $1000 phones and they don't buy computers anymore.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2019 02:55 PM (9VeU0)

317 Are you implying that Highlander 2: The Quickening is somehow less worthwhile artistically than The Lord of the Rings?!?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (q80AH)

Not even arguing the merits, but Tolkien basically built an entire world, it's theology, poetry, legends, thousands of years of history, bloodshed, intrigue. It is like he constructed St Peter's, filled it with art, infused it with history, all so he could set his novel in the cupola.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

318 Nobody actually buys a $1000 phone. They pay $20/mo forever.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (FiUMj)


True. If people ever stopped to do the calculations ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:55 PM (hGXZE)

319 "Just read a synopsis of Sondland's revised testimony- he stated he said aid was conditioned on a public anti-corruption statement"


A statement?
That's all?
Somebody sold Schiff a pig in a poke on this one. Couldn't happen to a nicer pop-eyed pencil-necked dweeb.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 02:55 PM (hLRSq)

320 317 Are you implying that Highlander 2: The Quickening is somehow less worthwhile artistically than The Lord of the Rings?!?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (q80AH)

Not even arguing the merits, but Tolkien basically built an entire world, it's theology, poetry, legends, thousands of years of history, bloodshed, intrigue. It is like he constructed St Peter's, filled it with art, infused it with history, all so he could set his novel in the cupola.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

=========

Well, to be technical, he wrote the stories because he had created the languages.

He was a philologist first and foremost.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (q80AH)

321 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM



Are Blue Books for tests still a thing?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (axyOa)

322 The ability to play Angry Birds?"

2010 called...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (6qErC)

323 Sure. But what do people get for the money they
spend on a phone now? The ability to make phone calls? Good. The ability
to text? OK, I guess. The ability to take photographs of their chow and
upload them to bore others? Not so good. The ability to play Angry
Birds?



Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (hGXZE)

You'll get no argument from me. They're distraction machines, nothing more. Just the TV, only smaller.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (77WPm)

324 I wouldn't make a good immortal.

Other immortal: "There can only be one!"

Me: "I think there can be at least two. We should just get a sandwich and a beer."

I lack ambition.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (ppBhU)

325 321 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM



Are Blue Books for tests still a thing?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (axyOa)

==========

I write all of my first drafts by hand in longhand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (q80AH)

326 Psych degrees are the easiest and high school counselors are actively recommending this to students who don't know what to study in college

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 02:36 PM (myjNJ)

If psych degrees are too hard, there's always communications, and if that's too hard there's international relations
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (qAR6u)

********

J-School is for those "students" who cannot handle the intellectual rigors of a Physical Education Degree.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (flINI)

327 Get this - Andy McCarthy has discovered JUST NOW that his faith in the Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity of the FBI was misplaced.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (9VeU0)

328 So I see Schiffty Schiff is moving to add obstruction...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (6XlcD)

329 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (kXoT0)

Gosh!. No wonder we hadn't seen you for a long time. Will keep you in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (WI7YS)

330 Just heard Perino say on Fox that it's going to take "seismic evidence" for pro-Trump people to change their minds.


Yup. Something like proof (AKA genu-wine evidence) that he committed a crime. And by "crime," I mean one of those statute thingys written in legalese with the long string of numbers behind it.

Anything else is a Progressive lie.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (HaL55)

331 True. If people ever stopped to do the calculations ...
.... on what they pay in taxes....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (wtvvX)

332 Nobody actually buys a $1000 phone. They pay $20/mo forever.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (FiUMj)

I prepaid $650 for a librem5, they are rolling them out, and I am on a release schedule.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (1CjJc)

333 Ah, the blue book. I loved blue books.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (ycWCI)

334 Are Blue Books for tests still a thing?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM (axyOa

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (WI7YS)

335 Wow, Sherry McEvil, sounds like quite a procedure -- glad you're doing better!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (bDqIh)

336 329
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (kXoT0)



Gosh!. No wonder we hadn't seen you for a long time. Will keep you in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (WI7YS)

That sounds like excellent news. Congratulations.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (1CjJc)

337 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

By candlelight?

j/k

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (vGJY7)

338 Sherry I'm glad things went well.

Feel better!

Posted by: eleven at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (tH5fk)

339 16 one day, kids are going to have to wake up, right? College is too expensive and it's costing that money for no reason.

1. student loans driving cost increases because duh.
2. colleges spend the extra money on hiring their dullard graduates to be political kommisars on campus.
3. college presidents live like kings
Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (FEQY4)


This particular perpetual motion machine only functions with ever-increasing infusions of cash from the taxpayer. In the end it won't matter if the kids wake up or not.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (+yyGG)

340 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (WI7YS)

So did I - in spite of this $3200 paperweight taking-up 3/4 of my desk space. Because it was easier than trying to negotiate the "word processing" "software" that came with the machine.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (77WPm)

341 "When I look at 18- and 20-year-olds and see what they want to do, I'm optimistic."

Especially because student applicants who express less than optimism are rejected from entry into the program.

Posted by: gp, aka Perrier Defecato at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (mk9aG)

342 Get this - Andy McCarthy has discovered JUST NOW that his faith in the Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity of the FBI was misplaced.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2019 02:56 PM

Maybe his balls started descending?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (U7cQ/)

343 Sorry, Diogenes. Jumpy computer. Blue Books were still a thing when I went to college.,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (WI7YS)

344 It's very strange to be completely bald"

Welcome to the club. And best wishes!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (6qErC)

345 My Son has a degree in law enforcement. He discovered his high school buddy makes 4x cop salary as a plumber. My son completed his apprenticeship this fall. He is a journeyman plumber now. He is happy.



Every once in a while... when he is wrestling a turd at 9 PM on a Holiday, at 3 X Hourly for Holiday Services.
... he's gonna wish he knew an Electrician.
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (4L8Yt)

Before I retired from IT, we had a programmer who used to be an electrician, but, pulling wire destroyed the bursa sacs in his shoulders, so he took a course to become a programmer. Turns out electricians make good software folks because electrical schematics train them to think the way you need for programming.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (kXoT0)

346 >>Get this - Andy McCarthy has discovered JUST NOW that his faith in the Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity of the FBI was misplaced.


What a coincidence. So did career FBI agent and now CNN contributor James Gagliano.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (ZLI7S)

347 328 So I see Schiffty Schiff is moving to add obstruction...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (6XlcD)

Its the Mueller equation.

Defending yourself against false accusation = Obstruction of Justice.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (NgKpN)

348 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

By candlelight?

j/k
Posted by: Concerned People's Front


That's now. In California.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (NJ+n1)

349 337 When I was a freshman undergraduate I wrote all my papers by hand.

By candlelight?

j/k
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (vGJY7)


That's only Californians.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (+yyGG)

350 I'm sensing there will be a significant increase in the number of suicides in the Journalism Profession.

Posted by: Fritz at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (2Mnv1)

351 Sherry McEvil

Wow... And I thought my little stay in the hospital last week was something.... Prayers for you

Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (6XlcD)

352 So I see Schiffty Schiff is moving to add obstruction...

It is, quite literally, the only play they have left.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (77WPm)

353 Work? Fuck that. Might get my ear gauge caught on something.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 02:59 PM (v0R5T)

354 312 My $725 iPhone Xr is about 1000x more powerful than that computer was.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 02:51 PM (77WPm)

Sure. But what do people get for the money they spend on a phone now? The ability to make phone calls? Good. The ability to text? OK, I guess. The ability to take photographs of their chow and upload them to bore others? Not so good. The ability to play Angry Birds?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (hGXZE)

I dick around here on my phone.

Posted by: Someguy at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (O+iVW)

355 So I see Schiffty Schiff is moving to add obstruction"

That's his go to every time he stomps on the burning bag of shiite

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (6qErC)

356 >>So I see Schiffty Schiff is moving to add obstruction...

>>It is, quite literally, the only play they have left.

It's been the plan all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (ZLI7S)

357 For those who have prayed for my MiL, thank you. She had second of most recent MRI's recently and she is still clear.


Huzzah!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (1CjJc)

358 But my phone (computer) does a hell of a lot more than make a call. I order guns, pay my bills, watch movies, order groceries, comment here, among other things.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:52 PM (NJ+n1)


But for one-off charge of a few hundred bucks you can buy a desktop PC (or a Chromebook) that will do all the same things, and for many purposes is a lot more convenient (especially typing).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (hGXZE)

359 237 Journalism-related: Mollie's response to O'Keefe's ABC hot mic video. O'Keefe is adding fuel to the fire of the MSM's downfall.

MZHemingway

Mollie Retweeted Jeremy Barr
In addition to these statements not actually being responsive to what the initial hot mic claims were, mostly what this shows is that ABC News has indefensibly different standards for, e.g., Kavanaugh allegations or Covington boys then it does Clinton-connected pedophiles.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:43 PM (bDqIh)


Rush mentioned this as the last thing on his show today, and specifically compared it to the Kavanaugh attacks with out evidence.

It is one of the biggest new examples of Deep State-Media corruption, being in bed together.

Now, I'm guessing that Rush didn't read the latest comments from Ace commentators. Great minds thinking alike, and that kind of stuff.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (sy5kK)

360 Sure. But what do people get for the money they spend on a phone now? The ability to make phone calls? Good. The ability to text? OK, I guess. The ability to take photographs of their chow and upload them to bore others? Not so good. The ability to play Angry Birds?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (hGXZE)

I dick around here on my phone.
Posted by: Someguy


Last five guns I bought, I bought online with my iPhone.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (NJ+n1)

361 >>It's been the plan all along.

The Lawfare blog guys' plan.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (bDqIh)

362 I dick around here on my phone.
Posted by: Someguy

I phone around here on my dick

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FZYNt)

363 Every once in a while... when he is wrestling a turd at 9 PM on a Holiday, at 3 X Hourly for Holiday Services.
... he's gonna wish he knew an Electrician.
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 02:50 PM (4L8Yt)

Before I retired from IT, we had a programmer who used to be an electrician, but, pulling wire destroyed the bursa sacs in his shoulders, so he took a course to become a programmer. Turns out electricians make good software folks because electrical schematics train them to think the way you need for programming.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:58 PM (kXoT0)

I used to teach Network Engineering.

WORST students had degrees in humanity type subjects.

Why? They could never understand that Technology does not CARE about how you feel, or it feels.

It just is.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (NgKpN)

364 >>So I see Schiffty Schiff is moving to add obstruction...



>>It is, quite literally, the only play they have left.



It's been the plan all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (ZLI7S)

I'm sure they were hopeful to have something else, but this was certainly always the fall-back.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (77WPm)

365 332 Nobody actually buys a $1000 phone. They pay $20/mo forever.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (FiUMj)

I prepaid $650 for a librem5, they are rolling them out, and I am on a release schedule.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (1CjJc)

__

You're the exception. The vast majority just pay a monthly forever fee. See also cars. If you notice car ads don't ever have the price anymore, only the monthly payment.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FiUMj)

366 Article 1 of Impeachment Articles:

ORANGEMANBAD LOLGF'd our bullshit kangaroo court.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (1CjJc)

367 >>It's been the plan all along.


That's why they have been outlining their intent to consider Executive Privilege defacto Evidence of obstruction.


Then they proceeded to subpoena witnesses that fell under that umbrella.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (4L8Yt)

368 244
Of course all industries have gatekeeping. You really think there are
only 50 given people in the world at any one time qualified to manage a
major league baseball team? (The X's and O's side, at least, not the
player and media relations aspect of it)

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 02:44 PM (oZ6kz)


I'd say less than 50. I worked in minor league sports, and the guys that made it to the top league were head and shoulders better than the guys whose ceiling was our league, AA. Their schemes were much better, player positioning was spot on, who to play when other players were playing better, setting the lineup to the opponents was spot on, and who to play and rest worked to perfection. They won with lesser talent we usually saw because they were usually hired to go to the next level and the same team would fall way back the next season.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (I8FKK)

369 364 It's been the plan all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (ZLI7S)

I'm sure they were hopeful to have something else, but this was certainly always the fall-back.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (77WPm)

==========

Why don't they just wait out another year and push Trump out in the next election.

I mean, have you seen the national polls? He's so toast.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (q80AH)

370 Thanks everyone for the prayers and good wishes.

Yes, the tremor and the depression caused by it, kept me away. Being unable to go out to eat, etc. is very isolating.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (kXoT0)

371 Nood

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (ECrgQ)

372 >>The Lawfare blog guys' plan.

Who are now on Schiff's staff and running the strategy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

373 Last five guns I bought, I bought online with my iPhone"

It's the IPHONE LOOPHOLE!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (6qErC)

374 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:00 PM (1CjJc)

That is good news!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (WI7YS)

375 Never get an eyeball tattoo. I suspect I do not have to tell anyone here this. What the hell?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (ycWCI)

376 But for one-off charge of a few hundred bucks you can buy a desktop PC (or a Chromebook) that will do all the same things, and for many purposes is a lot more convenient (especially typing).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


But not for mobile. And I'd still need an Internet connection. Especially for mobile.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (NJ+n1)

377 Sherry,
Glad to hear.
Get well!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (axyOa)

378 You're the exception. The vast majority just pay
a monthly forever fee. See also cars. If you notice car ads don't ever
have the price anymore, only the monthly payment.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FiUMj)

I would not could not pay $1K for a phone or get on some crappy payment schedule. Used market is the way to go. I don't need latest and greatest. I paid a premium for the as yet undelivered promise of privacy.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (1CjJc)

379 I did see the coolest fucking app recently....you point the phone at some text in a foreign language, and it turns that text into English. Or vice versa. On the fly.

It's pretty fucking amazing.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (FiUMj)

380 That is good news!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (WI7YS)

It is, indeed!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (1CjJc)

381 304 In other news:

I traveled to Nebraska City, NE last week and had a closed skull brain surgery to remove my Essential Tremor on my right side. I had an MRI guided Focused Ultrasound Ablation of the right side of my thalamus.

It's very strange to be completely bald, but, it is wonderful to be able to keep food on a fork and to write, etc. I am doing OK, but, the high dose cortisone wore off Sunday so there is some swelling of the brain, which has me feeling tired, dizzy, and I have no appetite.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 02:54 PM (kXoT0)

Prayers for a speedy recovery, Sherry.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (RD7QR)

382 Never get an eyeball tattoo. I suspect I do not have to tell anyone here this. What the hell?



Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (ycWCI)

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (77WPm)

383 I'm not going to change my support based on Allegations that he DEFENDED HIMSELF against anonymous false allegations, which were not against the law in the first place.
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 02:45 PM (NgKpN)

---
It's a crime that the person the people elected to be the chief executive should be able to use his discretion and not the "expert" hangovers and hangarounds.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (YOhRS)

384 I used to teach Network Engineering.

WORST students had degrees in humanity type subjects.

Why? They could never understand that Technology does not CARE about how you feel, or it feels.

It just is.
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (NgKpN)
---------------

I'm trying to imagine such people getting up in filthy ceilings to pull cable. Ceilings, I might add, that have had the pleasure of rats living in them for a couple of decades.

Those were the times I wished I was back working as a welder. However, I got over it as it wasn't a daily occurrence.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (qC1Sy)

385 I used to have to walk 12 miles uphill just to sell my blood to buy a candle. Then had to walk 12 miles uphill to the candle store to buy that candle. Sometimes the candle store was out of candles so i had to walk another 12 miles. uphill of course, to the candle store across town. Then 12 miles more uphill to get back to my dorm.
I wish I had had feet to walk on. My stumps hurt.

Posted by: Yorkshireman #4 at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (vqIkG)

386 Warren, Pete, and Bernie are all polling poorly with minorities, it's why Bernie failed to Hillary last time. Biden does well with them because he was Obama's VP, but he doesn't "inspire" them to go out and vote.

There's no "historic" this election. The Dems have already had a woman and a minority candidate, so there really isn't the groundswell for one of the candidates.



Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2019 02:53 PM (I8FKK)



And that's the D's problem. People would have stood in the rain or drove thru snowstorms to vote for Obama. Beta guys would have voted for Hillary because the girlfriend dragged them to the polls.


But a heavy snow storm or cold temps, do you see anyone really saying: Yeah. I'll put down the coffee and don the boots and gloves and vote for Joe . .. Warren or Pete? NO.



Now look at Trump's rallies. This enthusiasm divide is what scares the Ds.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (tlI3f)

387 Appropriately titled thread for my problem, if I'm not too late to get replies.

Anyway, my computer has slowed WAY down the last few days. I even get the spinning wheel when trying to load or re-load the all-text threads here.

8-core Cybertron running Pale Moon with Adblock Latitude and NoScript. Any ideas how to get back up to normal speed?

Posted by: Empire1 at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (cFsua)

388 Glad to hear things went well, Ms. McEvil!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (ejd/p)

389 I always have negotiated for a car by giving the salesman what I want my monthly payment to be over 4 years. I make them come up with a way to get it done. It usually has them giving me a lot more for my trade in.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (tL/BP)

390 And now a word from Joe Walsh:

Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom
I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Put another way: I'm way more afraid of a dictator than I am of a guaranteed jobs program or free college.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (+y/Ru)

391 375 Never get an eyeball tattoo. I suspect I do not have to tell anyone here this. What the hell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (ycWCI)
-------------

I understand people wanting to get an eyeball tattoo, because crazy.

However, the fact someone is willing to do an eyeball tattoo is rather frightening.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (qC1Sy)

392 used to teach Network Engineering.

WORST students had degrees in humanity type subjects.

Why? They could never understand that Technology does not CARE about how you feel, or it feels.

It just is.
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (NgKpN)

___

The corollary to that is tech people who don't understand the primary goal of their job is to produce a product that makes money. I've had a thousand conversations to that effect telling developers that it's not about how elegant your code is, it's how fast can it go to market. Obviously you don't want sloppy code. But the marginal benefit spent from getting the code from very good to the best ever is not high. Devs never seem to understand that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (FiUMj)

393 Wow, Sherry McEvil, sounds like quite a procedure -- glad you're doing better!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 02:57 PM (bDqIh)

It was. It was very strange. Absolutely no blood work done. I won't try to describe the awful parts and there were plenty of those--having my head shaved was the least of them, but, it was amazing to get off that table with no tremor in my right side. I ate without difficulty for the first time in years.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (kXoT0)

394 389 I always have negotiated for a car by giving the salesman what I want my monthly payment to be over 4 years. I make them come up with a way to get it done. It usually has them giving me a lot more for my trade in.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (tL/BP)

__

That is the absolute worst way to negotiate. Never negotiate a payment. You are a dealer's dream come true.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (FiUMj)

395 I marvel at phones now. People pay $1000 to buy ... a
phone?? I thought Starbucks had a racket in charging $5 for a cup of
coffee, but $1000 for a phone is outrageous.



And to use the phone costs about ten times as much per month as a phone bill used to be. Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (hGXZE)


I paid $150 for my phone that a couple of years ago was about $700. I pay $30 a month for unlimited calls/texts and 30gb of data. That phone replaced my fax machine, telephone, answering machine, pager, financial calculator, computer, gps, compass, radio, cd player, scanner, camera, and video recorder. Which cut my need to having 2 phone lines and paying outrageous amounts for long distance phone calls which are now part of my $30 a month.

It sounds expensive, but for what it does, it's a bargain.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (I8FKK)

396 ========

I don't know the rules that well, but I assumed you were just the age you originally died at. So, I didn't imagine an 85 year old immortal doing backflips while fighting with samurai swords.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:47 PM (q80AH)

There was a Highlander episode where someone was a 10 year old kid immortal. So yes, you seem to stick at your age.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (FTPn0)

397 You got more for a trade in and you got fucked on the interest rate. So your payment is lower but the portion of that payment that goes towards principal payoff is smaller. So in 4 years you're way upside down. And then most likely you then roll over that amount into the new loan, creating an even bigger profit for the dealer. And on and on and on....

NEVER NEGOTIATE PAYMENT!!

Hell don't even negotiate price. Negotiate components of the deal independent of each other. The sum of those components make the best deal.

or just don't fuck around with payments and pay cash.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (FiUMj)

398 They just have to auto fellate that Watergate dick, don't they?

Once upon a once a time, I was on the board for a university paralegal program. I also lectured for the program. Now, mind you, the board position was unpaid and the lecture position paid nothing (see re: universities outsourcing nearly all teaching to lecturers) but I did it because I loved it.

I voted to shut down the program because the cost of the program was well in excess of what the students could expect to pay back given the pay scale of the area and I could not in good faith continue the program knowing that. It was just flat out wrong.

See also the discussions of people pursuing PhDs in various and sundry areas, including hard sciences, when the market place for teaching jobs and the like where that degree would be viable is so small. Yes, I know I'm the dissertation director for a student spending 8 years of her life on this degree and most of her fertile years and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a degree to get a tenure track job that I will never give up and she'll never have but that's fine because I'm getting a free research assistant out of it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (mf5HN)

399 See also the discussions of people pursuing PhDs in various and sundry areas, including hard sciences, when the market place for teaching jobs and the like where that degree would be viable is so small. Yes, I know I'm the dissertation director for a student spending 8 years of her life on this degree and most of her fertile years and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a degree to get a tenure track job that I will never give up and she'll never have but that's fine because I'm getting a free research assistant out of it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (mf5HN)

When I was in grad schools in the 80s there were stories of grad students killing their profs who wouldn't give them their degrees after 10 years of slave labor. In the Humanities, of course.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (FTPn0)

400 In fairness, Theodore Streleski was a mathematics grad student:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Streleski

And I suspect he got a light sentence because it came out what a dick his prof was.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (ujg0T)

401 How the fuck does Syracuse University - that costs $65,500 to attend - not have the money to send a SINGLE student reporter with their sports teams ? Likely on chartered flights, no less.

Give me a fucking break.

Posted by: deadrody at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (V9901)

402 Great perspective on how Fake News perpetuates morons wanting to become "journalists" and further perpetuate Fake News.

Fucking brilliant.

Posted by: deadrody at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (V9901)

403 A "dying industry" is an interesting way of putting it. It's more like journalism is a caravan full of Mormons, and journalists are a Mexican drug cartel.

Posted by: Heralder at November 05, 2019 04:27 PM (D9xDK)

404 My niece is/was a journalism major. She wants to be a photojournalist because she wants to travel...yet NEVER takes her camera anywhere and NEVER takes any photos other than iPhone selfies.

Her University was smart enough to cut the journalism program. Now she is whiny and feels deceived and doesn't know what to do.

I told her (on her 20th birthday no less) "Suck it up. Life is hard. Get used to it."

Posted by: NotAPiker at November 05, 2019 04:32 PM (YjKoD)

405 350 what a difference it would make in the US if there were fewer cop suicides and more journo suicides.

Posted by: vivi at November 05, 2019 05:18 PM (11H2y)

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