Jon Solomon: Hunter Biden Lobbied Obama's State Department to Lay Off Pressure for Political and Economic Reforms In Ukraine

Nothing to see here, folks. Move on.


Hunter Biden and his Ukrainian gas firm colleagues had multiple contacts with the Obama State Department during the 2016 election cycle, including one just a month before Vice President Joe Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his sonís company for corruption, newly released memos show.

During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.)

Just three weeks before Burisma's overture to State, Ukrainian authorities raided the home of the oligarch who owned the gas firm and employed Hunter Biden, a signal the long-running corruption probe was escalating in the middle of the U.S. presidential election.

Hunter Bidenís name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply "Burisma."

"Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption," a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. "She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member).["]

Speaking of sons of politicos:



So #Based.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:58 PM




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Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 12:58 PM (ECrgQ)

2 I'll call the Corgis.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 12:59 PM (ECrgQ)

3 And a collective ho hum from the MSM

Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2019 01:00 PM (6XlcD)

4

Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at November 05, 2019 01:00 PM (SENHs)

5 Corgis are slow this afternoon.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 01:00 PM (ECrgQ)

6 top 10?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 05, 2019 01:00 PM (5l6gb)

7 I'm so happy Sleepy Joe couldn't keep his mouth shut and copped to the pressure on camera.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:00 PM (oVJmc)

8 So when does this entire escapade reach critical mass and the Usual Suspects are all put to bed, in a manner of speaking?

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (DJFLF)

9 It's a Vespa Alt-Right Conspiracy

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (4L8Yt)

10 Top 10

Posted by: oddnot at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (dTY8v)

11 I kinda want Don Jr to take a run at NY Governor once his dad leaves office.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (wCmLp)

12 Too bad "Fredo" is already claimed as a nickname.

Posted by: henry at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (JMDly)

13 He couldn't be more on-target about Pierre De-electo.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (YOhRS)

14 Yeah, here again we have the Democrats doing their level best to nominate a felon because His Turn.

Posted by: JEM at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (8erNz)

15 Tucker ran a montage of media clips last night all repeating the Omidyar/Soros scripted line " No evidence Hunter did anything wrong".

Posted by: mikeyG at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (SENHs)

16 Countdown to Solomon's Pulitzer:

3
2
1
NEVER

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (I2dne)

17 Don Jr gets the Buuuuuuurn of the Day.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (4L8Yt)

18

Aren't we dumb to believe there are laws left to protect us in this country.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (vEIlU)

19 Dammit. I hate hate hate hate the whole political dynasty thingy.

However.

If we can go from Trump to Trump, Jr. and thus keep the trolling trolling trolling going, I'll reconsider.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (mf5HN)

20 Maria Harf laughs at that and says there's no proof! And she worked in the State Dept., so she would know.

Move along!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (bDqIh)

21 Apparently, Blue Star never filed a FARA to work with Burisma.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (ZLI7S)

22 How much corrupt Ukrainian money is being funneled to Vindaloumon through his older brother?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (jA4b7)

23

Donald Trump Jr is too funny. And spot on.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (vEIlU)

24 Tucker ran a montage of media clips last night all repeating the Omidyar/Soros scripted line " No evidence Hunter did anything wrong".
Posted by: mikeyG at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (SENHs)
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Or a smidgen of corruption!

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (YOhRS)

25 Great line from Jr. Keep an eye on that guy.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 05, 2019 01:03 PM (iw59Q)

26 Don Jr. is a pretty astute guy.

Posted by: BignJames at November 05, 2019 01:03 PM (X/Pw5)

27 Is it me, or is it about time for Joe Biden to walk straight into the Orchestra Pit?

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:03 PM (4L8Yt)

28 By the skin of my teeth.

The other part of the story is that Secretary of State at the time was John Kerry. Is Chief of staff served on the same board as grift Hunter. I wonder if any of these rats benefited from the US taxpayer essentially making loans through the IMF to an admittedly corrupt government. I wonder as well and if this corrupt government tried to help Democrats in elections. Presidential ones. The one where there was a drunk harridan as the rat candidate.

Posted by: oddnot at November 05, 2019 01:03 PM (dTY8v)

29 Countdown to Solomon's Pulitzer:

3
2
1
NEVER
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM (I2dne)


And Trump's multiple peace prizes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (vEIlU)

30 >There's no evidence!

-What? Have you looked?

>Of course not! And you better not, either!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (oVJmc)

31 >> Dammit. I hate hate hate hate the whole political dynasty thingy.

However.

If we can go from Trump to Trump, Jr. and thus keep the trolling trolling trolling going, I'll reconsider.
- - -
I know, right? Heh.

I am so glad Don Jr. is not part of his dad's administration and can safely lob bombshells all day, every day from outside of the DC bubble.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (bDqIh)

32 Hey Ace, how many new readers and commenters do you suppose that Twitter circle-jerk about you yesterday will funnel here after becoming instant fans? They seemed to get a particular kick out of your nickname for Baseball Cuck ... Epic.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (sNzC+)

33 Tucker ran a montage of media clips last night all repeating the Omidyar/Soros scripted line " No evidence Hunter did anything wrong".

They're lying.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (ykYG2)

34 Donald Trump Jr is too funny. And spot on.

Lefties responding to that are not amused.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (KZzsI)

35 Ed at Hot Air is just all afluster that Trump might have been right about Biden's Ukraine pressure.

Because he's really good at politics and stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (q80AH)

36 Don Jr. 2024.

Posted by: Someguy at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (O+iVW)

37 I wonder. Did Hunter register as a foreign lobbiest?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (NF7WJ)

38 Maria Harf laughs at that and says there's no proof! And she worked in the State Dept., so she would know.

Move along!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (bDqIh)



She plays a good dumb blond

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (vEIlU)

39 Donald Trump, Jr., on CBS when asked to name his favorite Democrat: "Mitt Romney's my favorite Democrat ... How about that?"


I never loved a Tweet before...

Posted by: mikeyG at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (SENHs)

40 Hunter Biden is probably the only person who would make a better Fredo than Chris Cuomo.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (N4xQB)

41 I missed the Twitter thread. Link? How much butthurt was in it?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (ykYG2)

42 Can you imagine the shit Don Sr and his boys have given each other over the years?

I worked with my father, grandfather, cousins and uncles for most of my life.

It was a non-stop shitshow of insults.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (4L8Yt)

43 Harf gave off this Dana Carvey vibe as spokescritter at State.

What floored me, somebody watched and listened to her speak and said "Yep, she'll be perfect".

They're just trolling everyone at this point, have been for years. The weirder, the better.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (6CZio)

44 I didn't commit suicide.

Posted by: J. Epstein at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (prSvo)

45

Where's Podesta hiding these days?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (vEIlU)

46 Harf's only positive assets are on her chest.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (jA4b7)

47 Don Jr is not wrong.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (FiUMj)

48 Off zombie sock

Posted by: Guzalot at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (prSvo)

49 Now do the IMF loans. $44 billion approved starting just a few days after Obama's election.

https://bit.ly/2oTukmy

$44 billion from the IMF and yet they still needed more from us. ...and, of course, the "expertise" to manage it all.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (C78No)

50 44 I didn't commit suicide.
Posted by: J. Epstein at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (prSvo)

==========

Is that what you wrote on your voter registration card?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (q80AH)

51 I want Trump Jr to run for president.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (myjNJ)

52 Hey Ace, how many new readers and commenters do you suppose that Twitter circle-jerk about you yesterday will funnel here after becoming instant fans? They seemed to get a particular kick out of your nickname for Baseball Cuck ... Epic.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (sNzC+)
+++++++++++++++
"Baseball Cuck" is pure poetry and I laugh every damn time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (I2dne)

53 I missed the Twitter thread. Link? How much butthurt was in it?

Sidebar.

Ana Navarro-sized butthurt.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (oVJmc)

54 Hunter better hope he doesn't end up in a New York prison cell. At this point, his father is ready to give the nod on a pillow "accident".

Posted by: Marcus T at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (me09k)

55 THIS YOUNG TRUMP FELLOW IS MOST DISRESPECTFUL OF THIS FINE MAN ROMNEY WHO I TOTALLY DON'T KNOW!

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (RD7QR)

56 >>She plays a good dumb blond

Because she IS a dumb blond.
Also a mouthpiece for the Obama administration to this day.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (bDqIh)

57 Now, who is the OTHER high ranking American board member?

Devon Archer? College roommate of John Kerry's stepson.

Who was a manager at a company owned by Kerry's stepson and Hunter Biden?

Its all about influence peddling.

Posted by: Don Q at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (NgKpN)

58 This will be headline news all day on every channel!

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (sNzC+)

59 That email is pretty much the smoking gun that Trump needs.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (JUOKG)

60 Where's Podesta hiding these days?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette


Under the plastic balls in the McDonald's playground

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (ykYG2)

61 Donald Trump jr is second only to his dad in death threats according to the Secret Service

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (KNsKs)

62 Except Huntaa Bidet lacks Fredo's moxy.

Huntaa never opens his mouth, Fredo all the time.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (jA4b7)

63 35 Ed at Hot Air is just all afluster that Trump might have been right about Biden's Ukraine pressure.

Because he's really good at politics and stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:04 PM (q80AH)

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Did he do his usual, but on the other hand, and then on the other hand, thing?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (FiUMj)

64 Picking Ukraine as the place where they were going to impeach Trump has proven to be one of the most awesome own goals in American politics since...ever.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (hLRSq)

65 During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma
Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A.
Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the
Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to
memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.


For several values of "worked", evidently.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (77WPm)

66 54 Hunter better hope he doesn't end up in a New York prison cell. At this point, his father is ready to give the nod on a pillow "accident".


yeah honestly I have doubts that Joe even knows who Hunter is at this point

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (Rarvo)

67 59 That email is pretty much the smoking gun that Trump needs.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (JUOKG)

=========

Let's imagine that Trump and his team knew of this email two months ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (q80AH)

68 Time for a 4:00am raid on Joe's house?
We'll give him a minute to put his teeth back in.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (v0R5T)

69 Now, who is the OTHER high ranking American board member?

Devon Archer? College roommate of John Kerry's stepson.

Who was a manager at a company owned by Kerry's stepson and Hunter Biden?

Its all about influence peddling.
Posted by: Don Q at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (NgKpN)
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A cipher for the Atlantic Council, maybe. It's a pretty incestuous group.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (I2dne)

70 Hey Joe, where you goin' with that sheet in your hand?
Hey Joe, I said where you goin' with that sheet in your hand?

Posted by: Hillary C. non-murderess at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (NF7WJ)

71 "21 Apparently, Blue Star never filed a FARA to work with Burisma."

Apparently there is a Clinton-connection exemption to FARA registration. Ask the Podestas.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (iw59Q)

72 And Trump, Jr. - that guy seems to be cut from the same timber as his old man.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (hLRSq)

73 Don Jr is not wrong.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM (FiUMj)


said Sherlock Holmes*


*of Elementary

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (vEIlU)

74 >>Ana Navarro-sized butthurt.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE TWITTER RESPONSE TO THE PICTURED ACE POST IS EXACTLY AS ACE HAS DEPICTED THEIR CIRCLE-JERK RESPONSE TO EVERYTHING.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (bDqIh)

75 I missed the Twitter thread. Link? How much butthurt was in it?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:05 PM


Probably all of it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (ejd/p)

76 Top 80?

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (9g3um)

77 I'm not sure Don Jr. could win an election, but it won't matter because Barron is the Kwisatz Haderach so eventually we won't need elections.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (oZ6kz)

78 >>The other part of the story is that Secretary of State at the time was John Kerry. Is Chief of staff served on the same board as grift Hunter. I wonder if any of these rats benefited from the US taxpayer essentially making loans through the IMF to an admittedly corrupt government. I wonder as well and if this corrupt government tried to help Democrats in elections. Presidential ones. The one where there was a drunk harridan as the rat candidate.

It's a little more direct than that. Under Obama/Biden, US tax dollars went directly to oil and gas companies in Ukraine including Burisma. Burisma in turn sent money back to Democrat politicians in the form of campaign contributions.

If you want to know how obvious the fraud was one of the people who got a big check from Burisma (through channels of course) was Sen. Ed Markey of MA. Also known as the author of the New Green Deal.

He wants the US to cripple our oil and gas industry but he pushed the Obama administration to give even more money to Burisma.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (ZLI7S)

79 "Baseball Cuck" is pure poetry and I laugh every damn time.
I guess I fail the moron meme test because I don't know who Baseball Cuck is.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (DJFLF)

80 Picking Ukraine as the place where they were going to impeach Trump has proven to be one of the most awesome own goals in American politics since...ever.

Its a desperation ploy. I think they got the tip off about the conversation and freaked out, trying to figure out what they can do to stop that from digging too deeply, so they scrambled this crapfest

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (KZzsI)

81 And don't forget about Whitey Bulger's nephew.


It's good to be King Swamp Creatures ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (sNzC+)

82 t-bird, Bill Clinton got a $25 billion IMF loan to Mexico to save his Wall Street buddies after the Republicans in Congress told Bubba no.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (jA4b7)

83 HEY, WAS HUNTER REGISTERED AS FOREIGN LOBBYIST?

Because I hear that's a very, very important thing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (oVJmc)

84 Does Brian Stetler lead a double-life as a B.C. tranny-ped0 or was he separated at birth?? You decide.

https://twitter.com/QueenofClubsIII/status/
1191517663018848259

Posted by: andycanuck at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (Dh1wo)

85 Any dude that's fucking Kimberly Guilfoile is all right by me.

** Yes I know, Newsom. But whatevs, gotta give that fucker some props for that as well.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (FiUMj)

86 Let's imagine that Trump and his team knew of this email two months ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (q80AH)
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Not a stretch. Trump is the President. He sees anything he wants to see, and I suspect he wants to see a lot.

The coup plotters think they know everything, but in all likelihood Trump knows more than they do. It is dangerous to negotiate an outcome when your opponent knows more than you. You can ask anyone who has ever bought a car.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (I2dne)

87 >>Let's imagine that Trump and his team knew of this email two months ago.


NO, IT'S THAT TRUMP IS THE LUCKIEST GUY EVER!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)

88 Would be interesting to know the connections here to Russia One and The Clinton Foundation for the Enrichment of Clintons.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (SENHs)

89 49 Now do the IMF loans. $44 billion approved starting just a few days after Obama's election.

https://bit.ly/2oTukmy

$44 billion from the IMF and yet they still needed more from us. ...and, of course, the "expertise" to manage it all.
Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:06 PM (C78No)

IMF 'lost' 4 Billion in Ukraine.

And I mean LOST, they literally don't know what happened to it.

Owner of Burisma also owns BANKS, and has at least some involvement in it.

Guys who were in charge of investigating it for Ukraine? have been convicted of meddling in the 2016 US Election, by outing Manafort, who is now in US Prison.

Posted by: Don Q at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (NgKpN)

90 Who is the Baseball Cuck? I must've missed the twitter thing yesterday.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (mNUzX)

91 79 "Baseball Cuck" is pure poetry and I laugh every damn time.
I guess I fail the moron meme test because I don't know who Baseball Cuck is.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (DJFLF)

One of the True Conservatives who writes for NRO has "baseball crank" as his twitter handle

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N4xQB)

92 You know...I'd like to smash my computer with a hammer right now but I can't afford to replace it. Goddamn fucking worthless piece of shit

Posted by: Insomniac at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (NWiLs)

93 It's a little more direct than that. Under Obama/Biden, US tax dollars went directly to oil and gas companies in Ukraine including Burisma. Burisma in turn sent money back to Democrat politicians in the form of campaign contributions.


yes. foreign aid, paid for by you and I, is a massive slush fund for connected Dems and Progs. And the Ukes just "clean" it for them and get a percentage for their own corrupt nomenklatura to keep

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (Rarvo)

94 These stories are like Juanita Broderick. Other than conservatives who read blogs like this, nobody will ever hear about them.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (FiUMj)

95 I guess I fail the moron meme test because I don't know who Baseball Cuck is.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:08 PM (DJFLF)
++++++++++++
I forget his name. His Twitter handle is something like "Baseball Wonk" or somesuch. He's a lower-echelon NTer. That's a pretty pathetic place to be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (I2dne)

96 72
And Trump, Jr. - that guy seems to be cut from the same timber as his old man.

He was talking to Hannity yesterday. It seems his fighting spirit was awakened by the relentless attacks on his family. Reading between the lines, there may have been a little tension between Don Jr. and his dad prior to going down the escalator. But he well understood that they need to present a united front, because really, all they have is US.
And to the elites, we don't count.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (DJFLF)

97 87 >>Let's imagine that Trump and his team knew of this email two months ago.


NO, IT'S THAT TRUMP IS THE LUCKIEST GUY EVER!!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)

==========

He got the luck potion from Harry Potter and has been mainlining for about 5 years now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (q80AH)

98 Nichols has to be the biggest pussy on Twitter. He must have been licking the bucket of Ben and Jerry's after that sobfest.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (ykYG2)

99 >>Any dude that's fucking Kimberly Guilfoile is all right by me.

** Yes I know, Newsom.



She's a Starfucker, plain and simple.

Newsome might wear more makeup than Kimberly, btw.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (4L8Yt)

100 83 HEY, WAS HUNTER REGISTERED AS FOREIGN LOBBYIST?

Because I hear that's a very, very important thing.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (oVJmc)

Only for some.

Posted by: John Podesta at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (NgKpN)

101
Did he do his usual, but on the other hand, and then on the other hand, thing?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:07 PM (FiUMj)

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LOL. I hate that so much.

That chubby dork (with a micropenis) has more hands than Kali.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (AzW6q)

102 One of the True Conservatives who writes for NRO has "baseball crank" as his twitter handle

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N4xQB)

wow, he actually admits he's a meth head in his handle?

hahahaha I crack myself up sometimes

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (DJFLF)

103 Don Jr gets the Buuuuuuurn of the Day.
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:01 PM

Yep. He absolutely owned Pierre!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (U7cQ/)

104 >>These stories are like Juanita Broderick. Other than conservatives who read blogs like this, nobody will ever hear about them.


Sure Jan.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (ZLI7S)

105 HEY, WAS HUNTER REGISTERED AS FOREIGN LOBBYIST?

Because I hear that's a very, very important thing.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (oVJmc)
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As I was led to believe.

Posted by: Paul Manafort at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (YOhRS)

106 Damn that Trump!

Posted by: red speck at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (nrC0n)

107 Can't wait to see CNN jump all over ABC for not reporting on Epstein...

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (DCYln)

108 Sure Jan.


IKR look who bops in with that heartening comment

soon there will be poling

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 01:13 PM (Rarvo)

109 The Dems were treating Ukraine like an ATM machine.

Obviously there lay the quid pro quo; with full-scale projection of their activity on Trump.

Posted by: DC at November 05, 2019 01:13 PM (/TvO8)

110 Nichols has to be the biggest pussy on Twitter. He must have been licking the bucket of Ben and Jerry's after that sobfest.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (ykYG2)
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Red State did a story about his recent meltdown, as he's finding out the libs don't care for his "expertise" either.

He did a whole Twitter thread:

1. Orangemanbad 2. Double down, 3. Double down...19 Double down--orangemanbad.

Posted by: Paul Manafort at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (YOhRS)

111 >>The Dems were treating Ukraine like an ATM machine.


Those Haiti Dollars were all used up.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (4L8Yt)

112 Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (jA4b7)

113 If you substituted "Eric Trump" for "Hunter Biden", and "Donald Trump" for "Joe Biden" and changed precisely nothing else in this story, Impeachment articles would have already been voted out and we'd be looking seriously at 75% for Senate conviction.

But because we're talking about actual neck deep corruption in the "not a whiff of scandal" Shit Midas administration then nothing to see here, just move along.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (77WPm)

114 I'd say O'Keefe has nailed it:

Trending in United States
#EpsteinSuicideCoverUp
Trending with: #Epsteindidnotkillhimself

That's on the 'trending' section of Twitter.

If that's a nothingburger, ok. Whatever. Just admit nothing would satisfy your eeore vanity then.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (1Vobx)

115 Newsome might wear more makeup than Kimberly, btw.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (4L8Yt)
..........

and hair products.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (v0R5T)

116 Don jr. speaks truth. Chip off the old block.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (macz7)

117 Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM

The reviews that bad?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (U7cQ/)

118 Still just the tip of the iceberg in Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (ZLI7S)

119 112 Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (jA4b7)

Let me guess - a stink bomb?

Oh wait, everybody come back - it was just the script.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (Kpl3J)

120 O/T but I think I've gotten tired of all the moral caveating that those on the right feel is necessary when writing positively of Trump.


At this point, I don't think he's any less moral than any other politician. In fact, he's probably got most of the big names in politics beaten as far as morality goes. I'm fresh out of fvcks to give about Trump's morality.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (XGA3u)

121 " Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (jA4b7)"

Of course it's a bomb threat, no one cares about the fucking Eternals enough to see them in theaters.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (oZ6kz)

122
One of the True Conservatives who writes for NRO has "baseball crank" as his twitter handle
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N4xQB)

---------

That fucking douchebag had the temerity to call me (and Ace) a liar for saying that he was a kept man, owned by the donor class.

I responded "Are you joking? You work for NR, bruh... it's a publication with no reach, terrible circulation, and few clicks, maintained solely by the sufferance of wealthy donors. You are SO disingenuous."

Aaaand... then @SimpleJack shadowbanned me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (AzW6q)

123 So they traded in the Haitian hookers for Ukrainian ones?

I hope more than their dicks fall off.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (jA4b7)

124 Under Obama/Biden, US tax dollars went directly to oil and gas companies in Ukraine including Burisma.

If there's anybody who needs billions in foreign aid, it's oil and gas companies, amirite?

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (NAs56)

125 There's a convention of wife-sharers on Twitter (where else?) and I'm the Lucky Pierre expected to service the wives!
Indeed.
It's a regular Swabby Role-Call! All the Ahoy Boys are here.


oh yes, that sidebar is fabulous!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (vEIlU)

126 >>The Dems were treating Ukraine every country that gets taxpayer-financed foreign US aid, so all of them, like an ATM machine.


FIFY.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (77WPm)

127 124 Under Obama/Biden, US tax dollars went directly to oil and gas companies in Ukraine including Burisma.

If there's anybody who needs billions in foreign aid, it's oil and gas companies, amirite?
Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (NAs56)

=========

The Left has told me for years that if the US didn't subsidize American oil and gas companies, gas would be $20 a gallon and the companies would all go out of business.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (q80AH)

128 Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.

Jack Kirby's revenge.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (oVJmc)

129 115 Newsome might wear more makeup than Kimberly, btw.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:11 PM (4L8Yt)
..........

and hair products.
Posted by: wth

Kimberly's ass is exit only

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (FZYNt)

130 The axiom that elections are simply advance auctions of stolen goods,

and

The US government is technically 22 Trillion Dollars in the whole

and

So the money "given" to the the IMF (or anyone else) has to first be borrowed. At interest.

Have we reached peak absurdity yet? No, of course not. Yet this explains much. It's a bunch of goddamned crooks. The Democrats are a criminal gang masquerading as a legitimate political party at this point.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (6CZio)

131 What did the leper say to the whore after he was done?

Keep the tip.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (pw+jk)

132 Laura Branigan - Gloria [1982]
25,443,162 views
Feb 23, 2008



haha ace

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:17 PM (vEIlU)

133 Baseball Crank used to be a decent guy, some stuff on baseball and some on politics. He really lost it on Trump though, it makes no sense what happened. I can't follow what broke these guys. Some of them were never conservative or really even right-leaning except on certain policies. Others... I just can't figure it. Some kind of personality clash or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:17 PM (KZzsI)

134 120 O/T but I think I've gotten tired of all the moral caveating that those on the right feel is necessary when writing positively of Trump.


At this point, I don't think he's any less moral than any other politician. In fact, he's probably got most of the big names in politics beaten as far as morality goes. I'm fresh out of fvcks to give about Trump's morality.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (XGA3u)

It's no longer an issue. He's locked in a fight with the bureaucracy and its enablers over the nature of the republic. I don't want a pastor doing that, I want a fighter.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 01:17 PM (RD7QR)

135 Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.

Jack Kirby's revenge.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (oVJmc)
---
My understanding was that Endgame was the last time we would see the pre-woke Marvel.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (YOhRS)

136 Still just the tip of the iceberg in Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (ZLI7S)

Untrue.
Ukraine has no icebergs.

Posted by: Snopes at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (88+cf)

137 Under Obama/Biden, US tax dollars went directly to oil and gas companies in Ukraine including Burisma.


This would be when he banned offshore production and all the other stuff, right?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (oVJmc)

138 133 Baseball Crank used to be a decent guy, some stuff on baseball and some on politics. He really lost it on Trump though, it makes no sense what happened. I can't follow what broke these guys. Some of them were never conservative or really even right-leaning except on certain policies. Others... I just can't figure it. Some kind of personality clash or something.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

it's a mental disorder

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (FZYNt)

139 But because we're talking about actual neck deep corruption in the "not a whiff of scandal" Shit Midas administration then nothing to see here, just move along.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:14 PM (77WPm)
+++++++++++++
YD put it best, I think.

It is not that the government has become corrupt. It is that corruption has become the government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (I2dne)

140 136 Still just the tip of the iceberg in Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:15 PM (ZLI7S)

Untrue.
Ukraine has no icebergs.
Posted by: Snopes at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (88+cf)

===========

"JackStraw, who has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes, has claimed without evidence..."
-AP style guide

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (q80AH)

141 19 Dammit. I hate hate hate hate the whole political dynasty thingy.

However.

If we can go from Trump to Trump, Jr. and thus keep the trolling trolling trolling going, I'll reconsider.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (mf5HN)

5 more years of PDT
8 years of Don Jr.
8 years of Eric

...and sadly, Barron will be one year too young at that point.

Posted by: Allie at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (sm6Pk)

142 Have we reached peak absurdity yet? No, of course not. Yet this explains much. It's a bunch of goddamned crooks. The Democrats are a criminal gang masquerading as a legitimate political party at this point.


I wouldn't say "at this point" honestly. I think they've been the Mafia writ large for decades.

It's just inescapable now.

AND that's why our friends the NTers are such a mess. They simply cannot handle the truth. They transfer onto us Deplorables the anger they OUGHT to feel towards Our Betters.

They're completely cowardly IOW

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (Rarvo)

143 105
HEY, WAS HUNTER REGISTERED AS FOREIGN LOBBYIST?



Because I hear that's a very, very important thing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (oVJmc)

---

As I was led to believe.

Posted by: Paul Manafort at November 05, 2019 01:12 PM (YOhRS)


Let it go man. Let it go. Sh1t like that will eat you up in here if you don't let it go.

Posted by: Paul Manafort's Cellmate at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (ymnmz)

144 It is not that the government has become corrupt. It is that corruption has become the government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (I2dne)
---
Well put.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (YOhRS)

145 There was an actual bomb on set.

They don't know how long it has been there. It might have lain there since WWII when the Germans occupied it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (jA4b7)

146 5 more years of PDT
8 years of Don Jr.
8 years of Eric

...and sadly, Barron will be one year too young at that point.
Posted by: Allie

laws will be changed by then

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (FZYNt)

147 Of course it's a bomb threat, no one cares about the fucking Eternals enough to see them in theaters.

Yeah the bomb threat is "this movie is gonna crater in the box office"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

148 OT: Al-Baghdadi's sister captured by Turkey and being interrogated:

https://bit.ly/2qsx5M8

Ooh, I bet that is an uncomfortable interview.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (lK7fO)

149 >>OT: Al-Baghdadi's sister captured by Turkey and being interrogated:


Tuesday

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (4L8Yt)

150 Quit picking on Hunter Biden! He has nice white teeth

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (ZJ/ol)

151 Jesus, somebody tell Solomon's webmaster to get rid of the Goddamn light gray on white text! I could not get through the article because my eyes were hurting!

And a pox on every other site that thinks this looks professional or whateverthefuck!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (O+yvk)

152 Romney should provide us with evidence that all successful movements have people in both parties.

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (Eg9+v)

153 Aren't we dumb to believe there are laws left to protect us in this country.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (vEIlU)


Dumb, yes.

Also criminally negligent in that we have not stormed Capitol Hill and dragged every last Democrat and their staffers out of their offices for a mass tar-and-feathering.

I'm sorry to continually be a voice of doom on these threads, but so long as the ruling class - for that is indeed what they are - can walk the streets without fear, then nothing will change and no one will be held accountable.

Go ahead - change my mind.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (Ki5SV)

154 Who ran the coup in Ukraine in 2014 that was presented to the public as the Euromaidan Revolution? Who picked the staff of the new government starting with the president of Ukraine?

It's a lot easier to get foreign leaders to do what you want when they work for you.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (ZLI7S)

155 It's no longer an issue. He's locked in a fight with the bureaucracy and its enablers over the nature of the republic. I don't want a pastor doing that, I want a fighter.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 01:17 PM (RD7QR)

We are, as the Chinese curse says, living in interesting times.

Pay attention folks, we are in the middle of a major Constitutional Crises. One that will eventually be written about in history books.

Either the Republic falls, or some major people go to jail.

There is no longer an in between.

Posted by: John Podesta at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (NgKpN)

156 Hail Hyrda and Red Skull maybe?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (jA4b7)

157 97 87 >>Let's imagine that Trump and his team knew of this email two months ago.


NO, IT'S THAT TRUMP IS THE LUCKIEST GUY EVER!!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)

==========

He got the luck potion from Harry Potter and has been mainlining for about 5 years now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He's had the inside track on all of this crap since Adm Rodger's walked into his office

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (8Hw9I)

158 And a pox on every other site that thinks this looks professional or whateverthefuck!


lol ok boomer

/GenZdesignerVoice

Posted by: BlackOrchidaEDKH at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (Rarvo)

159 Of course it's a bomb threat, no one cares about the fucking Eternals enough to see them in theaters.


Remember they made The Inhumans?

That one's been wiped like an enemy of Stalin.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (oVJmc)

160 71 Trump poisoned my cat

After the demise of the Special Counsel, Weissmann's Renfield, Brandon Van Grack, took over prosecutions for FARA issues. However, since he's currently up to his neck in prosecutorial misdeeds over his mishandling of the Flynn case, it might take Van Grack awhile to get back to FARA oversight.

Posted by: Ever at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (ZZDMQ)

161 He really lost it on Trump though, it makes no sense what happened. I can't follow what broke these guys.

-------

Easy. NR employee. When your paycheck (and STATUS - yay, I'm a fake-elite!) comes from a handful of anonymous globalist millionaire donors that you beg for scraps at black-tie dinners, you play the tune they call.

VDH hasn't cucked out and tucked under, but I think that's because he has a well-established career and cred as a public intellectual separate from Never Right Online, and doesn't give a damn if they cut him loose.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (AzW6q)

162 148 OT: Al-Baghdadi's sister captured by Turkey and being interrogated:

https://bit.ly/2qsx5M8

Ooh, I bet that is an uncomfortable interview.
Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:19 PM (lK7fO)

HE TOTALLY PUSHED ME DOWN THE STAIRS!

Posted by: al-Baghdadi's sister at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (RD7QR)

163 Posted by: John Podesta at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (NgKpN)

Sock faillage.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (NgKpN)

164 Picking Ukraine as the place where they were
going to impeach Trump has proven to be one of the most awesome own
goals in American politics since...ever.



Its a desperation ploy. I think they got the tip off about the
conversation and freaked out, trying to figure out what they can do to
stop that from digging too deeply, so they scrambled this crapfest


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM

---

I suspect you are correct. The spy was told that Trump asked the Ukraine to look into this and everyone literally panicked.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (JUOKG)

165 HEY, WAS HUNTER REGISTERED AS FOREIGN LOBBYIST?

Because I hear that's a very, very important thing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM (oVJmc)
..........

He's more of a Hobbyist. Hookers and blow, that sort of thing.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (v0R5T)

166 Ooh, I bet that is an uncomfortable interview.

In the back of a Volkswagen?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (ykYG2)

167 My understanding was that Endgame was the last time we would see the pre-woke Marvel.

Example: several of the Eternals have been gender swapped to women.

Not that anyone except some kind of Kirby completion knows, being some of the most obscure characters ever created for comics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (KZzsI)

168 Obligatory "Where's the reports?"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (vEIlU)

169 Maria Harf laughs at that and says there's no proof! And she worked in the State Dept., so she would know.

Move along!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (bDqIh)


of course she knows, she was probably the one responsible for deleting the proof...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (8D42x)

170 >>In the back of a Volkswagen?


You dumb bastard, it's a Sail Boat.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (4L8Yt)

171 He's had the inside track on all of this crap since Adm Rodger's walked into his office
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (8Hw9I)
+++++++++++
One of the very few people who I suspect we will be able to look back and say, "that was one of the good guys."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (I2dne)

172 I predict we will not need Trump Jr.

If Trump succeeds the media will have prostituted themselves to such a degree that they are a DNC organ will become inevitable to almost anyone.

At that point, nobody will but their "conspiracy theory" rattling.

What we are fighting against will become evident. And people will rise into this new mode of "conservative" politics.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (YOhRS)

173 And let's not forget Romney's CIA-bred campaign security advisor...

Joseph Cofer Black, a national security adviser for the 2012 Mitt Romney campaign, sits on the board of directors of Burisma
Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and gas giant that paid at times more than
$83,000 per month to Hunter Biden, former Vice President Joe Biden's
youngest son.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (Dh1wo)

174 >OT: Al-Baghdadi's sister captured by Turkey and being interrogated:


Tuesday



Not rape material.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (gd9RK)

175 167 My understanding was that Endgame was the last time we would see the pre-woke Marvel.

Example: several of the Eternals have been gender swapped to women.

Not that anyone except some kind of Kirby completion knows, being some of the most obscure characters ever created for comics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (KZzsI)

==========

I always go back to the fact that Iron Man was a character that no one cared about until the late 00s movie came out when it made all the monies.

And now Marvel is a trusted brand.

Predicting smoking wreckage on any of these new Marvel movies seems unwise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (q80AH)

176 Would be funny if the same guys that prosecuted Watergate fell on their swords for this Ukraine folly. "It worked when I was younger!"

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (Eg9+v)

177 >>Not rape material.


Ever been in a Turkish Prison?

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (4L8Yt)

178 133 Baseball Crank used to be a decent guy, some stuff on baseball and some on politics. He really lost it on Trump though, it makes no sense what happened. I can't follow what broke these guys. Some of them were never conservative or really even right-leaning except on certain policies. Others... I just can't figure it. Some kind of personality clash or something.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:17 PM (KZzsI)

Ace had the type nailed, in his epic post about the Never Trumpers 2 or more years ago. They bet wrong, and for some of them, they just had two much pride to ever walk back a bad bet - or admit that people they didn't respect were smarter than they were.

The real stupidity, which come out in Tom Nichols whining tweets, is that they never foresaw that they would be left on a little island all by themselves, with everyone else on both sides of the political divide despising them. Max Boot is one who seems desperate to try to get the Progs to like him, and who is dismayed to find that no matter what he does to suck up to them, it can never be enough.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (Kpl3J)

179 Quit picking on Hunter Biden! He has nice white teeth

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (ZJ/ol)
........

The best money can buy.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

180 171 He's had the inside track on all of this crap since Adm Rodger's walked into his office
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (8Hw9I)
+++++++++++
One of the very few people who I suspect we will be able to look back and say, "that was one of the good guys.
---------------------
Rodgers was lucky that Brennan and his puppet Obama didn't take a disliking to him. See Flynn to see how that turns out.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (yRAFu)

181 Poppins, don't go all D-Lamp on us, please.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (gd9RK)

182 Joe Biden corruption is a scandal, not a state secret

To the media, it is a scandal that it is bring exposed

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (k81AA)

183
Not that anyone except some kind of Kirby completion knows, being some of the most obscure characters ever created for comics.



I read them as a kid. Bought them in those bags of three at the dime store. Remember those?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (oVJmc)

184 >>Quit picking on Hunter Biden! He has nice white teeth


It's a Floor Wax and a Tooth Polish!

Posted by: Cocaine at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (4L8Yt)

185 3 Baseball Crank used to be a decent guy, some stuff on baseball and some on politics. He really lost it on Trump though, it makes no sense what happened. I can't follow what broke these guys. Some of them were never conservative or really even right-leaning except on certain policies. Others... I just can't figure it. Some kind of personality clash or something.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:17 PM (KZzsI)

--

I think it's a combination of factors. Pride and inability to admit they were wrong about something is one of them. Another is a yearning for social acceptance. They mostly live in NY or DC and want to get invited to parties. They want to be able to say, "Well yes, I'm conservative, but I'm not one of thoooosee people..."

Also, in terms of their actual viewpoints a lot of them were never really conservative to begin with. Either that or they defined "conservatism" as supporting Middle Eastern wars and outsourcing jobs to China.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (N4xQB)

186 I still don't get it. Is Baseball Crank George Will?

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (mNUzX)

187 What we are fighting against will become evident. And people will rise into this new mode of "conservative" politics.
Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (YOhRS)

You have a higher opinion of the general populace than I do.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (KUaJL)

188 I want you just for a minute that Hunter Biden, drug and alcohol hazed for 30+ years didn't ask his old man or people connected to him to make things go away for his paymasters.

This is the same guy that asked/forced his dad to put out a statement about his totally wonderful relationship with is dead brother. And then dumped her a few months later.

Posted by: MJ at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (gAMkn)

189 164 Picking Ukraine as the place where they were
going to impeach Trump has proven to be one of the most awesome own
goals in American politics since...ever.



Its a desperation ploy. I think they got the tip off about the
conversation and freaked out, trying to figure out what they can do to
stop that from digging too deeply, so they scrambled this crapfest


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:09 PM

---

I suspect you are correct. The spy was told that Trump asked the Ukraine to look into this and everyone literally panicked.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:21 PM (JUOKG)

I think its more like.

'Hey Boss, I took some initiative and got some stuff on Trump, will really hurt. Yeah, got it from Ukraine'.

Boss: 'YOU DID WHAT?"

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (NgKpN)

190 I still don't get it. Is Baseball Crank George Will?
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arr

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Nope. He's a sorry little bitch made n***a named Dan McLaughlin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (AzW6q)

191 Rodgers was lucky that Brennan and his puppet Obama didn't take a disliking to him. See Flynn to see how that turns out.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (yRAFu)
++++++++++++++
Yes indeed. Thus the problem with kind of corruption-as-government. Law no longer exists - just the ire of the powerful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (I2dne)

192 135
Uh oh, Marvel Eternals set evacuated over bomb threat.



Jack Kirby's revenge.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:16 PM (oVJmc)

---

My understanding was that Endgame was the last time we would see the pre-woke Marvel.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:18 PM (YOhRS)

Its funny that they named the movie Endgame tight at the point where they torpedo their own profits.
As a huge fan of the MCU, Endgame just sucked the desire to see anymore of their movies right out of me. They couldn't just send off the characters nicely, had to humiliate and emasculate them all. Have at it Marvel but I heard your words...you don't like me.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (ymnmz)

193 I do like DJT Jr. He has guts and I think he and Kimberly are kind of cute together. Their halloween costumes - witch hunt - was too funny.

Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (a0IVu)

194 Quit picking on Hunter Biden! He has nice white teeth



Posted by: G marks the spot at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (ZJ/ol)

........



The best money can buy.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

Because his meth teeth were all gnarly and shit.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (88+cf)

195 Predicting smoking wreckage on any of these new Marvel movies seems unwise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (q80AH)

I don't think so - I think it's pretty safe bet, probably with 90/10 odds in favor, that *anything* made by Hollywood today in any genre is going to turn out to be a pile of flaming turds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)

196 Poppins, don't go all D-Lamp on us, please.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (gd9RK)

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The hell of it is.... Dlamp was right.

Uncouth. By still right.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

197 Petro Poroshenko, the former president of Ukraine that the Obama administration helped put in office, gave a eulogy at John McCain's funeral.

Donald Trump wasn't invited to John McCain's funeral.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:26 PM (ZLI7S)

198 What we are fighting against will become evident. And people will rise into this new mode of "conservative" politics.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (YOhRS)


There is, perhaps, 5% of the voting population that follows this stuff like we do - and that's roughly split between the lunatic left and we 'rons and 'etts.

The average voter knows nothing other than the bilge they get from the glowing screen in their living rooms or in their palms.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:26 PM (77WPm)

199 The more deranged the NeverTrumper, the more they know they are wrong but too (proud? stubborn?) to admit it. All of these deranged rants of 'it's wrong that we aren't discussing lighthouse policy, that is what conservatism used to be about' are just projection. If their interest group was large enough to carry an election, they'd be populist at this moment too.

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at November 05, 2019 01:26 PM (Eg9+v)

200 183
Not that anyone except some kind of Kirby completion knows, being some of the most obscure characters ever created for comics.


I read them as a kid. Bought them in those bags of three at the dime store. Remember those?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019


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Like DC's Metal Men.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 01:26 PM (Ejm1K)

201 I still don't get it. Is Baseball Crank George Will?
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arr

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Nope. He's a sorry little bitch made n***a named Dan McLaughlin.

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I don't mind BC as much as others here. His case of TDS is much milder than say Goldberg and Will. And I do like his baseball stuff.

I get the sense that BC will vote for Trump in 2020.

But that's just me.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 01:27 PM (sX1BW)

202 I still don't get it. Is Baseball Crank George Will?
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM

Sounds like Mirengof at Powerline.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 01:27 PM (U7cQ/)

203 Goddman that was poorly written.

Lemme try again.

Hunter Biden forced his dad to put out a statement claiming that everyone was thrilled Hunter was fucking his dead brother's wife.

Now imagine that same guy mentioned nothing about his Ukrainian paymaster's needs.

Posted by: MJ at November 05, 2019 01:27 PM (gAMkn)

204 Donald Trump wasn't invited to John McCain's funeral.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:26 PM (ZLI7S)
..........

He's too busy to take two weeks off anyway.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:27 PM (v0R5T)

205 #178 has Max visited Dr. Kutzyurcokov and tried wearing a dress?

Posted by: torabora at November 05, 2019 01:27 PM (0S5b6)

206 Rodgers was lucky that Brennan and his puppet Obama didn't take a disliking to him. See Flynn to see how that turns out.
Posted by: Puddin Head

Flynn was an outsider, Brennan could not go near Rodgers. Rodgers isn't the Deep State, he's the foundation.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (8Hw9I)

207 190 I still don't get it. Is Baseball Crank George Will?
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arr
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Nope. He's a sorry little bitch made n***a named Dan McLaughlin.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (AzW6q)

Truth; but it is probably fair to call George Will a baseball crank. Poor George, if he had been lucky like Krauthammer and died 5 years ago his reputation would have been solid forever. Now he'll be remembered for writing that Amy Klobuchar would be the Bestest President Ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (Kpl3J)

208 Petro Poroshenko, the former president of Ukraine that the Obama administration helped put in office, gave a eulogy at John McCain's funeral.


Yep. Maaaav-rik's name is all over this shit. There's no way he wasn't getting greased.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (oVJmc)

209 Donald Trump wasn't invited to John McCain's funeral.

Neither was Palin.

I hope the demons are getting their full enjoyment from John McCain's tuckus down in Hell.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (ykYG2)

210 I love how the Regressive Democrats day that Trump should be impeached because he asked a foreign country to investigate corruption.

And yet it was Obama and Biden and their Deep State Operators, along with the MSM, who used the CIA, FBI, and State Department to investigate, frame and entrap US citizens and a duly elected President because they did not like him or his policies.

The fact that there are no decent Democrats to point this out, is jury repulsive and sad.

There was a coup attempt and average Americans do not even know this basic truth.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (zI9wu)

211 You have a higher opinion of the general populace than I do.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 01:24 PM (KUaJL)
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I'm actually getting there. But that's completely conditional on whether or not Trump wins the big battle.

And I'm not so optimistic about that. I'm day-to-day.

My first hope is in the Lord's Return. Barring that, I hope we can get something out of self-government and the values He instilled into the culture.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (YOhRS)

212 Rodgers was lucky that Brennan and his puppet Obama didn't take a disliking to him. See Flynn to see how that turns out.


Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM

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Pretty sure Admiral Rodgers took out some insurance before he went to Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (JUOKG)

213 He's too busy to take two weeks off anyway.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:27 PM (v0R5T)

rim shot!

Posted by: BignJames at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (X/Pw5)

214 142 Have we reached peak absurdity yet? No, of course not. Yet this explains much. It's a bunch of goddamned crooks. The Democrats are a criminal gang masquerading as a legitimate political party at this point.


I wouldn't say "at this point" honestly. I think they've been the Mafia writ large for decades.

It's just inescapable now.

AND that's why our friends the NTers are such a mess. They simply cannot handle the truth. They transfer onto us Deplorables the anger they OUGHT to feel towards Our Betters.
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Agreed. It is thoroughly and unalterably one big Shit Sandwich, and they are demanding everybody take a bite.

The money is borrowed from China, so "we" can give it to say, India (or whomever...) and the parasites and lampreys and snakes have insinuated themselves into positions as middlemen, enriching themselves in the process.

And it's all funny money, to get technical about it. Leftist Confetti Bucks. Coin of the Realm. None of this shit would be happening without all the smoke and mirrors. Americans would have burned Washington to the ground long ago.

One can't help but have at least a grudging respect for how wicked everything has turned out. They had a plan, and have been executing it for some time now. My only puzzlement the last 25 years or so was whether "Conservatives" were complicit or merely hopelessly naive.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (6CZio)

215 Joseph Cofer Black, a national security adviser for the 2012 Mitt Romney campaign, sits on the board of directors of Burisma
Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and gas giant that paid at times more than
$83,000 per month to Hunter Biden, former Vice President Joe Biden's
youngest son.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 05, 2019 01:22 PM (Dh1wo)

Interesting. Romney was 'supposed' to be on the short list for Sec State.

So, connection to Romney, potential sec state.
Connection to Kerry, old Sec State.
Connection to VP.

Bet there is some money that went to the Clinton Foundation from Burisma as well.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (NgKpN)

216 Nope. He's a sorry little bitch made n***a named Dan McLaughlin.

Thanks.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (mNUzX)

217
Really, I'm sure there is are elements of personal animosity, and stubborn pride to the actions and words of the Conservative Media Ecosystem™.

But, at the bottom of it, it's the money, and the cruises. They're crying over their cracked rice bowls and loss of prestige. Wounded egos are easier to soothe than dried up bank accounts. That's why they go into estrus for liberal donors.

But one thing that doesn't enter into their calculations is "principle." All their talk about principles is pure bullshit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (AzW6q)

218 Truth; but it is probably fair to call George Will a baseball crank. Poor George, if he had been lucky like Krauthammer and died 5 years ago his reputation would have been solid forever. Now he'll be remembered for writing that Amy Klobuchar would be the Bestest President Ever.


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Of all the NT losses, his is probably the one that hurts the most for me. But he is gone now. Never to return.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (sX1BW)

219 Yep. Maaaav-rik's name is all over this shit. There's no way he wasn't getting greased.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (oVJmc)

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Greased???? Like with a double quarter pounder with cheese???

Posted by: Meghan Big Mac McCain at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (8XRCm)

220 >>Rodgers was lucky that Brennan and his puppet Obama didn't take a disliking to him. See Flynn to see how that turns out.

Brennan and Clapper tried hard to get Obama to fire Admiral Rogers in the final days of his administration.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

221
The average voter knows nothing other than the bilge they get from the glowing screen in their living rooms or in their palms.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019


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Don't I know it. My writing colleague, the guy who was in Vietnam and is thus old enough to know better, complained last night that "Trump is making his millions instead of watching out for the country." Another member of the group and I pointed out that Trump personally is forgoing millions to be President. "What kind of news are you reading?" we asked.

Him: "Oh, I read all around."

Me: "The Huff-and-Puff Post doesn't count."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (Ejm1K)

222
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The fact that there are no decent Democrats to point this out, is jury repulsive and sad.

There was a coup attempt and average Americans do not even know this basic truth.
Posted by: Czech Chick at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (zI9wu)
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There are probably decent Democrats somewhere, likely midwestern blue-collar workers who don't realize what the party actually is anymore. In power, there is probably not a one. I'll give Manchin credit for at least knowing how to shut up and not get deeply involved.

And not to split fairs, but I think you used the wrong tense. There *is* a coup attempt on right now. There were others. Depending on how you count, this is attempt two or three, probably.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:30 PM (I2dne)

223 Power Corrupts. Staying in DC for more than 2 years corrupts completely

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2019 01:31 PM (cEsBM)

224 I remain pessimistic that the Biden Crime Family, the Deep State Coup Plotters, or the Epstein Pedo Ring will ever face any kind of justice.

Stupid John Edwards was right about 2 Americas - he just got the players wrong.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 01:31 PM (r+sAi)

225 >>My writing colleague, the guy who was in Vietnam and is thus old enough to know better, complained last night that "Trump is making his millions instead of watching out for the country."


This is my neighbor. He thinks Trump is making Billions in illegal Hotel Profits.

I tried to explain the Economics involved to him...but he couldn't be swayed. Retired Civil Servant that he is, he is blind to Truth.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:31 PM (4L8Yt)

226 217 It's rather surprising, but most people have principles simply as logical lynchpins for their writing. This is definitely true of journalists, who always have an ax to grind but rarely take actions that would demonstrate their principles.

When journalists complain that you don't have principles, it's usually because you've done something that would reveal the lack of action behind their stances supposedly demonstrated by their most famous writings...

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (Eg9+v)

227 >>Yep. Maaaav-rik's name is all over this shit. There's no way he wasn't getting greased.

McCain's foundation took a lot of money from Soros. Soros is heavily invested in Ukraine.

It's all the same players.

If you want to see an amazing coincidence look at all the people involved with the Atlantic Council and Ukraine. It's beyond obvious what was going on.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (ZLI7S)

228 Aren't we dumb to believe there are laws left to protect us in this country.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:02 PM (vEIlU)

Dumb, yes.

Also criminally negligent in that we have not stormed Capitol Hill and dragged every last Democrat and their staffers out of their offices for a mass tar-and-feathering.

I'm sorry to continually be a voice of doom on these threads, but so long as the ruling class - for that is indeed what they are - can walk the streets without fear, then nothing will change and no one will be held accountable.

Go ahead - change my mind.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 05, 2019 01:20 PM (Ki5SV)


If the media wasn't 99.9999 hiding and deceitful, a war would have already broken out.

Fox, conservative online blogs, and Trump have just begun to open American's eyes. They didn't know what they didn't know.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (vEIlU)

229 I love how the Regressive Democrats day that Trump
should be impeached because he asked a foreign country to investigate
corruption.



And yet it was Obama and Biden and their Deep State Operators, along
with the MSM, who used the CIA, FBI, and State Department to
investigate, frame and entrap US citizens and a duly elected President
because they did not like him or his policies.



The fact that there are no decent Democrats to point this out, is jury repulsive and sad.



There was a coup attempt and average Americans do not even know this basic truth.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (zI9wu)


THIS SAYS IT ALL! +10000

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (mNUzX)

230 Iron Man may not have been Marvel's #1 property pre-RDJ, but it was never just a forgotten character. He was always in the upper tier with Spiderman and Captain America and The Hulk.

No one - not even most comic nerds - cares about the Eternals. People *wanted* a great Iron Man movie, even if they didn't know it. No one craves a great Eternals movie.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (oZ6kz)

231 Power Corrupts. Staying in DC for more than 2 years corrupts completely

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2019 01:31 PM (cEsBM)

There are perhaps 600-people who have at their disposal about $3.7 Trillion of Other Peoples' Money(tm) and hold the power to literally put entire industries out of business with a single piece of legislation that literally nobody will ever read.
Until that changes, galactic-levels of corruption ought to be expected.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (77WPm)

232 >>Power Corrupts. Staying in DC for more than 2 years corrupts completely


99% Income Tax on ALL former Government Officials, Employees. 20 year sunset.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (4L8Yt)

233 Trump is more man than all his critics. They know it all too well, and they hate him for it. Especially the cruiser cucks. They have no dicks, and Trumps drag the ground. They are the peanut gallary. They are the mud on his boots. The skid marks in his tighty whiteys. Part of the wreckage of the old and busted GOPe. Irrelevant.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 01:33 PM (macz7)

234 So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:33 PM (FEQY4)

235 This is my neighbor. He thinks Trump is making Billions in illegal Hotel Profits.

I tried to explain the Economics involved to him...but he couldn't be swayed. Retired Civil Servant that he is, he is blind to Truth.
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:31 PM (4L8Yt)
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Next time, don't bother with the economics. Just state a simple fact and see how he takes it: Trump International - which Donald Trump no longer owns, by the way - cuts a check to the US Treasury for all profits from foreign dignitaries at any of their properties. This is not required, they do so simply due to the potential appearance of a conflict-of-interest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:33 PM (I2dne)

236 Heck, I'll do even better 99% rate on income above your avg 5 years, previous to Government Employ.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:33 PM (4L8Yt)

237 Yes it is obvious,they are bold and out in the open in their coup attempts.Most Americans are unaware anyway.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (KNsKs)

238 They don't know how long it has been there. It might have lain there since WWII when the Germans occupied it.


Posted by: Anna Puma>>
How long have they been filming this?

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (9g3um)

239 >>So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?

I can't remember his name but he lives in a big white house in Washington, DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)

240 But one thing that doesn't enter into their calculations is "principle." All their talk about principles is pure bullshit.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (AzW6q)

Reminds me of that old quote "The more loudly he spoke of his virtue, the faster we counted the silverware."

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (J+mig)

241 So Hunter and Chelsea run in 2024?

Posted by: torabora at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (0S5b6)

242 Karen Tramontano - Bill Clinton lover.
https://www.bluestarstrategies.com/about/our-team/karen-tramontano

Ukraine was a piggy bank, probably one of a few, but certainly one of the easier ones to enrich connected families, government families of taxpayer wealth.

That's why the democrats attacked this - they have to blunt it, Trump is right over the target.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (//Byp)

243 Loaded headline

As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

seek help

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (vEIlU)

244 So Hunter and Chelsea run in 2024?
Posted by: torabora at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (0S5b6)
++++++++++++++++
"Meth Mouth and Horse Teeth for America!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (I2dne)

245 If you want to see an amazing coincidence look at all the people involved with the Atlantic Council and Ukraine. It's beyond obvious what was going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (ZLI7S)

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Let me ask you a question Jack.

Are there enough straight shooters left in the Judiciary, the DOJ, etc et al.... to undo the corruption of it all??

Or is DC simply going to roll forward of its own corrupt inertia, incapable of reform, cheered on by a corrupt media.

Posted by: Meghan Big Mac McCain at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (8XRCm)

246 But one thing that doesn't enter into their calculations is "principle." All their talk about principles is pure bullshit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:29 PM (AzW6q)


Oh, Mitt Rmoney told us all he had deeply held principles. And if you didn't like them, he had others. He's the prototype of the modern member of Conservative, LLC.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (77WPm)

247 I always go back to the fact that Iron Man was a character that no one cared about until the late 00s movie came out when it made all the monies.

Oh they might be able to pull it off, but Iron Man was actually an established character, people had heard of him. There was a really popular song about him. He was kind of iconic in that he was the first real power armor character. The Eternals? I've been a comic book fan since the late 70s and I barely know anything about them other than being a cheap knockoff of Greek and Roman gods. Second generation, even, since the Second World stuff Kirby did for DC.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (KZzsI)

248 >>So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?

I can't remember his name but he lives in a big white house in Washington, DC.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)

Mike Pence?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (o4fG0)

249 >>As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News


Shouldn't that be Latinx?

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (4L8Yt)

250
damn BIG sock I left on

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (8XRCm)

251 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

seek help
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (vEIlU)
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This has nothing to do with you being a Latino and everything to do with you being a neurotic SJW lunatic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (I2dne)

252 Where will Brennan be able to run to to evade prison?

Venezuela, no food
Russia, nope
KSA, no - as an apostate he gets the chop
Iran, as a Sunni - probably not
Norkland, they'd trade him back for rice
China, ?

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (8Hw9I)

253 This is my neighbor. He thinks Trump is making Billions in illegal Hotel Profits.

As opposed to how the Clinton Foundation worked, that's a penny ante game.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (oVJmc)

254
Loaded headline

As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

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She has nothing to fear from Trump or his voters "as a Latino."

Now if she's an illegal she does. Maybe someone should look into it... it's the only reason she should feel unsafe.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (AzW6q)

255 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

Would you feel safer in Mexico?

Then by all means, act to protect your safety. Andele!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (hGXZE)

256 Power Corrupts. Staying in DC for more than 2 years corrupts completely

Term limits should really apply to all the unelected positions.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (C78No)

257 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News





Leave

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (kw5n8)

258 So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?

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Negligent discharge.

Biden was on his way down already.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (8XRCm)

259 I best scoot.

Need to vote for Conan the Dog.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (jA4b7)

260 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (vEIlU)


As an Amero, I suggest that you please feel free to depart for safer pastures. Mexico is lovely this time of year.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (77WPm)

261 >>As opposed to how the Clinton Foundation worked, that's a penny ante game.


Hotels are essentially loss leaders for Real Estate Invesment.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (4L8Yt)

262 Poor Willard Romney!

He's a loser no matter what party would have him as a member.

Posted by: Fritz at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (wo3c/)

263 I love how the Regressive Democrats day that Trump should be impeached because he asked a foreign country to investigate corruption.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 05, 2019 01:28 PM (zI9wu)
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That's just it. If you listen to the scuttlebutt of the Dems, enough of them have internalized Schiff's "parody" that Trump is asking them to make up dirt on Biden.

But why would the country whose official findings Joe claims "clears" him and his son, be such a threat to "make up dirt" when Trump simply encourages them to investigate.

There is little answer despite that Trump's "crimes" must be pursued by the potential to do wrong. Meanwhile, you can't complain about Obama unless you have definite proof that despite the potential for abuse--he did what can't be denied by spin.

Trump asked Ukraine to (continue to) investigate the Biden documented quid-pro-quo. Sure, it has the potential to serve as an invitation to please Trump by manufacturing dirt--but that's not what Trump asked for. Which is why they want to see "the complete transcript" because just like they were sure the walls were closing in and the wheels were coming off. They are sure that there is something more incriminating in the "left out" parts of the transcripts.

When they redacted the FISA warrant application, the libs were all like "Yeah, they redact things--don't ask for more unless you're Putin's puppets!" However, they complain that part of the transcript was redacted , and complain that they don't know for a fact that this was all that was on the transcript.

It is the duplicity of the two-standard approach that will eat away like water on limestone of Dem credibility.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (YOhRS)

264 >>>There was a really popular song about him.

No there wasn't.

Posted by: Epistocles at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (0o0wY)

265 So Trump went through all the trouble and expense of running for President, so he could get foreign dignitaries to stay at his DC hotel, where they would have stayed anyway?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (1ISKN)

266 "As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

Oh! won't some white knight come and save me ?!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (ykYG2)

267 McCain knew corruption first hand since he was part of the Keating Five. He knew he needed to bring his next foray into corruption overseas.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (2DOZq)

268 Like DC's Metal Men.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
>>ha.
Learned what an amalgam was from that comic.

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 01:38 PM (9g3um)

269 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

You think your transition to a Latino is going to go over better back home?

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:38 PM (C78No)

270 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

Good.

No, seriously, that's good. Not that you personally feel unsafe, but that the climate and legal enforcement has shifted so that illegals are no longer comfortable and laughing at us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:38 PM (KZzsI)

271 Where will Brennan be able to run to to evade prison?

Venezuela, no food
Russia, nope
KSA, no - as an apostate he gets the chop
Iran, as a Sunni - probably not
Norkland, they'd trade him back for rice
China, ?
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (8Hw9I)
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Belize. No extradition treaty and English-speaking.

Of course, he'll have to pay protection to keep them from doing it anyway. He'd better have been feathering his nest...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:38 PM (I2dne)

272 >>"As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano



I'm gonna reserve myself from judgement until I see her nipples.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:38 PM (4L8Yt)

273 Term limits should really apply to all the unelected positions.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (C78No)

Literally nobody will ever be able to convince me that the "Civil" "Service" is an improvement over the old patronage system of government employment.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:38 PM (77WPm)

274 >>Let me ask you a question Jack.

>>Are there enough straight shooters left in the Judiciary, the DOJ, etc et al.... to undo the corruption of it all??

That's the $64 question we are all going to find out. My thinking is one of the reasons this is taking so long, aside from Durham being a notoriously meticulous guy and not a hack like Weismann, is because the number of trustworthy people available to work on this is pretty small.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)

275 I'm gonna git me a beer.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warbonnet at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (BrfST)

276 She's kinda hot.

Posted by: EXTERMINATE! at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (hbrUW)

277
Looked her up. Not hawt. Send her back to Mexico.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (AzW6q)

278 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America

aka, My Emotions Are Out Of Control

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (oVJmc)

279 The Black Sabbath "Iron Man" had nothing to do with the comic book Iron Man, until the movies got the rights to retroactively link them.

The Black Sabbath Iron Man intends to kill all of mankind. But everybody loves that opening guitar riff.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (Kpl3J)

280 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

She should try to be a Mormon in Mexico.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (2DOZq)

281 Is it me, or is it about time for Joe Biden to walk straight into the Orchestra Pit?
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:03 PM

Our hard concrete floor welcomes him with open arms.

Posted by: Orchestra Pit at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (COzlW)

282 >>She's kinda hot.


Could still have gross nipples, though. Like a Latina Tara Reid.


Need to see more evidence.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (4L8Yt)

283 So Trump went through all the trouble and expense of running for President, so he could get foreign dignitaries to stay at his DC hotel, where they would have stayed anyway?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (1ISKN)
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It was a great business strategy, until he screwed up by divesting himself of his business empire and then his former company went and decided to donate all profits from foreign dignitaries to the US Treasury.

He usually did so well at business. I can't figure this one out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (I2dne)

284 Wildly OT: does anyone have a link to the Betoff campaign aide standing on the bed of a pickup truck teaching the assembled retards the Betoff dance?

I told my wife about it, but can't find it.

Thanks!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (hGXZE)

285 "As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

Oh! won't some white knight come and save me ?!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM (ykYG2)
..........

Racist. Knight of Color, please.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (v0R5T)

286 "99% Income Tax on ALL former Government Officials, Employees. 20 year sunset." garrett at November 05, 2019 01:32 PM (4L8Yt)

My husband retired IT from the VA after 24 years, and 6 years in the Navy. I don't think he deserves 99% income tax. You may want to rethink that.











'

Posted by: Abby at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (N2bQk)

287 So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?



I can't remember his name but he lives in a big white house in Washington, DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)



Mike Pence?



Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM

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Pence lives at the Naval Observatory, it's not white.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (JUOKG)

288 Sounds like Susanne de Arellano needs to get out of her deep-blue shithole bubble a bit and actually spend a little time with non-crazies.

Or she can just fucking leave. Either/Or.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (77WPm)

289 I only knew Iron Man from comics in 1978. I hated Tony Stark, who was a prig with a stick up his ass and a mustache from the 1930s.

The movie made all the monies because RDJ turned in a brilliant performance. There's nothing inherent about the Iron Man character that made that happen.

Any other movie made in any other 'verse will rise or fall on storytelling and acting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (gd9RK)

290 Susanne de Arellano should buy an AR-15 if she feels unsafe, or a little pink handgun and get a carry permit. Its a right!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (r+sAi)

291 The Black Sabbath "Iron Man" had nothing to do with the comic book Iron Man, until the movies got the rights to retroactively link them.

Yeah I know but... everyone thought of them as being connected. (and the Iron Man in the Sabbath song started as a protector then got enraged by being ignored, taken for granted, and left to rust).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

292 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

OMG, someone muttered something under their breath when I loudly spoke Spanish into my phone on the grocery line.

Posted by: Susanne de Arellano at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (COzlW)

293 >>The Black Sabbath Iron Man intends to kill all of mankind.


Pretty sure he has a change of heart after meeting some hippie from Rhode Island and smoking some Sweet Leaf.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (4L8Yt)

294
Brennan and Clapper tried hard to get Obama to fire Admiral Rogers in the final days of his administration.
Posted by: JackStraw

Linky?

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (8Hw9I)

295 Not.Even.A.Smidgeon.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (vGJY7)

296 He usually did so well at business. I can't figure this one out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (I2dne)


He has foregone his Presidential salary, and is working for $1 a year.

All part of an ingenious money-making scheme by this idiot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (hGXZE)

297 175 1
. . .

And now Marvel is a trusted brand.

. . .
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:23 PM (q80AH)


So was Star Wars about 4 years ago.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 05, 2019 01:42 PM (di1hb)

298 Tom Bevan @TomBevanRCP
Recap:

NBC killed story on Harvey Weinstein, saying it didn't meet their editorial standards.

ABC spiked story on Jeffrey Epstein, saying same.

Both orgs (& rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 05, 2019 01:42 PM (BqBId)

299
The sidebar piece on "Two-Ton" Tom Nichols is hilarious -- a real heartrending cry from a FredoCon. Wear that label proudly, Tom, because it is yours for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 01:42 PM (pNxlR)

300 complained last night that "Trump is making his millions instead of watching out for the country."
Multitasking.

How do it work?
It's really depressing to grok that a bigly percentage of American malehood is now effectively soy-i-fied.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

301 I think Favreau and Downey made the buzz about Ironman. Favreau a respected director of gritty indie films and Downey, an actor with a legit reputation far more than the other members of the cast being rounded up for Avengers--except perhaps Ed Norton--who really didn't want to do Cinematic Marvel Universe.

That's what made Ironman worth a peek. And it paid off in a good movie, IMO.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:42 PM (YOhRS)

302 So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?



I can't remember his name but he lives in a big white house in Washington, DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)



Mike Pence?



Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM

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Pence lives at the Naval Observatory, it's not white.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (JUOKG)

Really? Last I checked One Observatory Circle was still painted white.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (o4fG0)

303 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano


Wait...I thought they were all moving here because they don't feel safe in their home countries?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (COzlW)

304 If only we had an AG that believed in law and justice. If only.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (Pzzpr)

305 OMG, someone muttered something under their breath when I loudly spoke Spanish into my phone on the grocery line.

Was it "your Spanish is for mierda, you two-peso puta"?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (ykYG2)

306 290
No. The bitch needs to crawl her sorry ass back to safe and secure drug cartel governed messico.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (macz7)

307 Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is the better album, anyway.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (4L8Yt)

308 249 >>As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

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look at the hoops we're forced to jump through here.

1. this is clearly racist because she's saying "you white male evil trump loving rednecks scare me"

2. we're not allowed, at all, to mention...oh I don't know MS-13...or the collapse of blue collar jobs taken over by latino workers?

3. we're supposed to pretend, also, that America is unique in having borders or a population that is different from other countries.

4. I guess we have to nod in agreement that trump made our country less safe, blah blah blah, well ignoring muslim domestic terror attacks or democrat domestic terror attacks, as well as crime in general, and just feel bad for her feeling bad.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (FEQY4)

309 Seriously, any anti-Trump male has got "BETA" written all over his pasty pampered face.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (DJFLF)

310 "As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

Oh! won't some white knight come and save me ?!
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 01:37 PM


Sorry. Busy.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (ejd/p)

311 The movie made all the monies because RDJ turned in a brilliant performance. There's nothing inherent about the Iron Man character that made that happen.

Iron Man had two things going for him as a character
1) A howard hughes-like genius inventor was actually the guy IN the armor, not hiring it out
2) Power armor, which is just badass

But yeah, otherwise kind of a tepid character and setting. RDJ made the role interesting and history was made.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (KZzsI)

312 289 I only knew Iron Man from comics in 1978. I hated Tony Stark, who was a prig with a stick up his ass and a mustache from the 1930s.

The movie made all the monies because RDJ turned in a brilliant performance. There's nothing inherent about the Iron Man character that made that happen.

Any other movie made in any other 'verse will rise or fall on storytelling and acting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (gd9RK)


Not that I followed the superhero comics, (I liked GI Joe, Robotech, the Punisher and The Nam), wasn't Stark also a massive drunk in the comics?

RDJ really made the character. He deserves every dime his movies made.

Posted by: Iblis at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (9221z)

313 "Where's your proof" is the cry of the guilty.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (IpMhW)

314 Wildly OT: does anyone have a link to the Betoff campaign aide standing on the bed of a pickup truck teaching the assembled retards the Betoff dance?

I told my wife about it, but can't find it.

Thanks!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:40 PM (hGXZE)
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Look for "Buttigieg".

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (YOhRS)

315 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

--

Hey, fist bump!

Because of unfettered, unvetted illegal immigration, I no longer feel safe in America! Ain't it great??

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (JoUsr)

316 300 complained last night that "Trump is making his millions instead of watching out for the country."

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one of trump's last rallies dealt with part of this, he's like "i don't take a salary, and what ... a hotel room is $300? What are you talking about?"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (FEQY4)

317 247 I always go back to the fact that Iron Man was a character that no one cared about until the late 00s movie came out when it made all the monies.

Oh they might be able to pull it off, but Iron Man was actually an established character, people had heard of him. There was a really popular song about him. He was kind of iconic in that he was the first real power armor character. The Eternals? I've been a comic book fan since the late 70s and I barely know anything about them other than being a cheap knockoff of Greek and Roman gods. Second generation, even, since the Second World stuff Kirby did for DC.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM (KZzsI)

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Isn't that the same story of the Guardians of the Galaxy?

I'm not really a comic guy, but I got the impression that the Guardians were a run that no one cared about either.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (q80AH)

318 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

Shouldn't she be calling herself a Latina? Or a Latinx? Susanne, you got something you wanna confess to your abuela?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (COzlW)

319 >>Mike Pence?

Let me axe you something, if you were Donald Trump and you wanted the media to focus on Ukraine but you know they hate you to their core and would never do it if you wanted it, what would you do?

How about helping start a "scandal" on yourself and Ukraine that you knew would be catnip to the media and they would through away all logic and ethics and focus on Ukraine like a laser beam?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (ZLI7S)

320 Iron Man was a good character to start off with because 'guy invents super suit' is a very simple introductory concept (vs. WWII super solder, or Norse God, or etc).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (oVJmc)

321 315 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

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Hey, fist bump!

Because of unfettered, unvetted illegal immigration, I no longer feel safe in America! Ain't it great??
Posted by: Lady in Black - D

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no, you are not supposed to say that. She has privilege, not you.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (FEQY4)

322 Puta Arellano can #lolgf

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (J1rqr)

323 Wildly OT: does anyone have a link to the Betoff campaign aide standing on the bed of a pickup truck teaching the assembled retards the Betoff dance?

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Weird - I can't find it anywhere, either. That's pure, weaponized cringe tho.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (AzW6q)

324 Where will Brennan be able to run to to evade prison?

Venezuela, no food
Russia, nope
KSA, no - as an apostate he gets the chop
Iran, as a Sunni - probably not
Norkland, they'd trade him back for rice
China, ?
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:36 PM (8Hw9I)
++++++++++++++++
Belize. No extradition treaty and English-speaking.

Of course, he'll have to pay protection to keep them from doing it anyway. He'd better have been feathering his nest...
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Every drug Lord in central America would be after him to trade

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (8Hw9I)

325 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico, because I guess NYC is such a hotbed of fanatical pro-Trump conservative thought.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)

326 More Stunning and Brave reportage from the amorphous hermaphroditic blob Brian Stelter, who sports the gunts of both sexes,

Ace does some of his best work in the sidebar.

Posted by: al-Baghdadi's sister at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

327 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

Wait...I thought they were all moving here because they don't feel safe in their home countries?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 01:43 PM (COzlW)
............

la la la la la *fingers in ears* Did you just say something?

Posted by: MSM at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (v0R5T)

328 For a guy who has not done shit except fail the golden flow, this hunter guy is getting a lot of press. LOL

what a loser

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2019 01:46 PM (cEsBM)

329 throw

sheesh

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

330 That's the $64 question we are all going to find out. My thinking is one of the reasons this is taking so long, aside from Durham being a notoriously meticulous guy and not a hack like Weismann, is because the number of trustworthy people available to work on this is pretty small.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)


and/or the floodgates of witnesses and whistleblowers have opened, and must be investigated, corroborated, etc

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:46 PM (vEIlU)

331 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico, because I guess NYC is such a hotbed of fanatical pro-Trump conservative thought.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)
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She knows that PR is still in America, right? If she meant it, she'd go to Venezuela.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:47 PM (I2dne)

332 Some things about Iron Man didn't come through in the comics I read as a kid. That Tony Stark was cool. Of course, I picked up the comic when he was a recovering HARD alcoholic and poor and Rhoades wore the armor (and it was driving Rhoades crazy).

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:47 PM (FEQY4)

333 Mexican weather girl she ain't

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

334 Sorry. Busy.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (ejd/p)

______


White Hispanics need not apply, Don.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 01:47 PM (sNzC+)

335 More Stunning and Brave reportage from the amorphous hermaphroditic blob Brian Stelter, who sports the gunts of both sexes,

Ace does some of his best work in the sidebar.
Posted by: al-Baghdadi's sister at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (RD7QR)


It's basically his twitter feed.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (vEIlU)

336 Yeah Favreau handled Iron Man perfectly, down to the "inside the helmet cam" and all. He delivered what the film needed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (KZzsI)

337 325 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico, because I guess NYC is such a hotbed of fanatical pro-Trump conservative thought.

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It is rich, these Spaniards complaining about the Anglos who had no part in creating her rich shitty cultural background.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (FEQY4)

338 Look for "Buttigieg".
Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (YOhRS)


Ah! Thank you! I'd confused the two. No wonder I couldn't find it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (hGXZE)

339 190 I still don't get it. Is Baseball Crank George Will?
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arr

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Nope. He's a sorry little bitch made n***a named Dan McLaughlin.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:25 PM (AzW6q)

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He is? I assumed it was Will as well. Never heard of Dan McLaughlin.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (FiUMj)

340 I want to see Trump eating some chalupas for lunch in the White House.

Posted by: LASue at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (Ed8Zd)

341 I'm not really a comic guy, but I got the impression that the Guardians were a run that no one cared about either.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:44 PM (q80AH)

That's certainly my impression. The first Guardian movie is one of my favorite Marvel movies because it's fun throughout, goes for laughs, and never takes itself too seriously. Parts of the second guardian movie hit that mark (dancing Groot, for example) but not all of it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (Kpl3J)

342 2. we're not allowed, at all, to mention...oh I don't know MS-13...or the collapse of blue collar jobs taken over by latino workers?

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I know your point, but just a semantic thing here - Latino blue-collar workers get MORE screwed by the illegals.

Illegal immigrants buttfuck minorities even harder than they do whites.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (AzW6q)

343 How about helping start a "scandal" on yourself and Ukraine that you knew would be catnip to the media and they would through away all logic and ethics and focus on Ukraine like a laser beam?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (ZLI7S)

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*fistbump*

That or he's the LUCKIEST bastard EVER in American Politics. It would be the statistical equivilent of of doing 117 coin tosses that all came up heads.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 01:49 PM (8XRCm)

344 Its a really strange statement from that chick what with all the Repubs getting shot a softball practice, Rand Paul being attacked, Covington kids getting smeared, and antifa beating the crap out of people. Wait.... is she a conservative?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 01:49 PM (r+sAi)

345 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

I felt totally safe getting repeatedly sexually assaulted on my trek up to the border, though.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 01:49 PM (COzlW)

346 >>and/or the floodgates of witnesses and whistleblowers have opened, and must be investigated, corroborated, etc

Oh yeah. And all the international players that have to be run down.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:49 PM (ZLI7S)

347 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano
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Great. Now they are popularizing the idea of "safe spaces" outside the asylums.

It's like when they tried to get "consent" laws like the college failed experiments out in the real world, and damn presumption of innocence in adult-world courts, anyway!

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 01:49 PM (YOhRS)

348 Love to see that Don Jr. has learned from dad how to master snarkie trolling.

Posted by: Cheri at November 05, 2019 01:50 PM (oiNtH)

349 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano



This is what you get when you reward people for being emotional basket cases.

Trump bashing aside, what she's really doing is modelling her new victim suit for the Mob.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 01:50 PM (oVJmc)

350 325 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico, because I guess NYC is such a hotbed of fanatical pro-Trump conservative thought.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)

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Left: America is a bastion of right wing fascism

Also left: Let's run the most hard core communist we can find for president, since this country loves them some leftist ideas

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 01:50 PM (FiUMj)

351 Isn't that the same story of the Guardians of the Galaxy?

Comic fans actually knew about them, and I read quite a bit of their older incarnation. They showed up prominently in the Avengers animated TV show, so had more recent exposure.

But even with all that, the only reason they worked is because the trailer looked hilarious, and the film delivered on that promise. It was goofy and fun. I don't see the Eternals beign that kind of film.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

352 As a Germano Franc, I no longer feel safe in Vichy France!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:51 PM (FEQY4)

353
Arellano Translation: I'm rich enough to take an extended vacation back in Puerto Rico. I'll be back in six months to keep undermining the US, but since I'm bouncing for a minute I'll pretend it's because of Orangemanbad.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 01:51 PM (AzW6q)

354


Well, looks like Uncle Joe is purposefully saying that he never talked business with his asshole son for a reason.


Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at November 05, 2019 01:51 PM (ikxxu)

355 >>>Both orgs ( rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist.<<<

The best stuff was when Kav's drunk buddies were stuffing his exposed junk in unsuspecting coed's hands. You gotta be hung like a donkey to pull that off.

Posted by: Fritz at November 05, 2019 01:52 PM (wo3c/)

356 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

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lemme guess, she's as pale as what's his face.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:52 PM (FEQY4)

357 I had 4 write in opportunities so I split my votes between "Conan the Dog" and "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself "

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at November 05, 2019 01:52 PM (G546f)

358 351
But even with all that, the only reason they worked is because the trailer looked hilarious, and the film delivered on that promise. It was goofy and fun. I don't see the Eternals beign that kind of film.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

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I keep hearing that Iron Man succeeded because of execution, and that there's no way that Eternals could replicate that.

But we've seen nothing of Eternals except a logo. We don't know about the execution.

I'm not exactly some sort of fanboi. I think the whole MCU is a hugely mixed bag with a surprising number of bad movies in it, but Feige has obviously found a way to tap into a zeitgeist and I don't think it's wise to bet against him at this point.

Hell, Captain Marvel made over a billion dollars.

I fully expect the next crop to be making at least $750 million per movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:52 PM (q80AH)

359 White Hispanics need not apply, Don.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 01:47 PM (sNzC+)
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We're not doing anything.

Posted by: White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan at November 05, 2019 01:52 PM (YOhRS)

360 >>Let me axe you something, if you were Donald Trump and you wanted the
media to focus on Ukraine but you know they hate you to their core and
would never do it if you wanted it, what would you do?

That's like playing 3D Pachinko right?

Posted by: Franzi Lang at November 05, 2019 01:53 PM (Pzzpr)

361 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

Tell us all about your feelings.

Because we give a shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:53 PM (hGXZE)

362 OT, what significant elections are happening today?

Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 01:53 PM (a0IVu)

363 Hahahahahahaha!

MSN headline:

"BREAKING NEWS: U.S. ambassador to EU described Ukraine quid pro quo in House testimony. Details to come."

The chicken wept....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 05, 2019 01:53 PM (ejd/p)

364 Isn't this all a moot point? Biden now has basically zero chance of getting the nomination. The Dem Party and their allies have abandoned him, knowing he's too demented and too much damaged goods to get the nomination much less win the general election. They're now switching their allegiance to Warren.

If anything, we should be propping Biden up, since he's such a weak candidate.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2019 01:53 PM (fK2gX)

365 >>Well, looks like Uncle Joe is purposefully saying that he never talked business with his asshole son for a reason.

This is a great example of how bad our media really is.

You'd have to have the IQ of an eggplant to believe this yet almost nobody is challenging Slow Joe. They just all agree to lie to each other and call us conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)

366 I keep hearing that Iron Man succeeded because of execution, and that there's no way that Eternals could replicate that.

Yeah that's why I'm not saying that. Only that this is going to be a tough hill to climb, and could easily be MCU's first flop.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:54 PM (KZzsI)

367 That's certainly my impression. The first Guardian movie is one of my favorite Marvel movies because it's fun throughout, goes for laughs, and never takes itself too seriously. Parts of the second guardian movie hit that mark (dancing Groot, for example) but not all of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:48 PM (Kpl3J)

That was the running joke for a while.

DC: "Our movies need to be dark, edgy, realistic, and relate to current events."

Marvel: "How about a raccoon with a bazooka and a taking tree?"

As long as they remembered it was supposed to be fun, Marvel made crazy money, and could still venture into politics and current events (as with Captain America, with Hydra basically being the Deep State) as long as they still entertained.

Remains to be seen how long until they hit woke=broke now.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 01:54 PM (J+mig)

368 I have a strong feeling, just from clips and other news I've seen, that the Eternals will very soon be called the Eternal Bores.

Even the ancient Greeks knew that writing about a bunch of gods gets pretty damned boring unless you have them doing stupid shit all the time for no reason. Of course, how do you empathize with a character who's main trait is to do stupid shit all the time for no reason?

(okay, yeah, millenials)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (Kpl3J)

369 287 So, the real question is who used Schiff to take out Biden?



I can't remember his name but he lives in a big white house in Washington, DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)



Mike Pence?



Posted by: Surfperch at November 05, 2019 01:35 PM

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Pence lives at the Naval Observatory, it's not white.


Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 01:41 PM (JUOKG)


Abraham Lincoln?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hLRSq)

370 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

as an Eyetalian I'm sick and tired of these Hispanics appropriating our food.
Tripe was ours before the spanics put it in menudo.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (RVnO7)

371 MSN headline:

"BREAKING NEWS: U.S. ambassador to EU described Ukraine quid pro quo in House testimony. Details to come."


We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hGXZE)

372 Monday Night Football Cat > Baseball Cuck

Posted by: Zombie Walter White at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (1XNk8)

373 Marvel: "How about a raccoon with a bazooka and a taking tree?"

As long as they remembered it was supposed to be fun, Marvel made crazy money, and could still venture into politics and current events (as with Captain America, with Hydra basically being the Deep State) as long as they still entertained.

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yeah, here's the thing though about Marvel, about only 1/3 of their movies were good.

Iron Man II, Thors I and II, and a few other sucked. But I guess that's a better success rate than DC.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (FEQY4)

374 So, the kids look at the world as a static blackboard 2D diorama. JFK as a man of their time, not his.

Posted by: klaftern at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (RuIsu)

375 Twitter manipulation regarding Epstein:

https://tinyurl.com/y2cbzjj4

Posted by: redridinghood at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (wiXsO)

376 243 Loaded headline

As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

Posted by: artisanal 'ette


As an illiterate Latina who can't make her adjectives agrees with her nouns, she SHOULD be afraid. America has no patience for illiterates.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (fK2gX)

377 We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hGXZE)
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They have delusions of statehood and in our postwar position of "daddy" to Europe, we spoil the child and help it believe what it wants to believe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (I2dne)

378
Even the ancient Greeks knew that writing about a bunch of gods gets pretty damned boring unless you have them doing stupid shit all the time for no reason. Of course, how do you empathize with a character who's main trait is to do stupid shit all the time for no reason?

(okay, yeah, millenials)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (Kpl3J)

The greek gods are just humans with super powers/very little consequences.

Posted by: Someguy at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (O+iVW)

379 I fully expect the next crop to be making at least $750 million per movie.


And this is what's wrong with young people. I'm sorry, TJM, it's not your fault that you were born late. This notion that box office has anything to do with worthiness.

How much did Seven Samurai gross?

Lawrence of Arabia?

Did either of them win Oscars?

I don't know because it doesn't matter. Greatness is greatness. Keeping track of box office is like fantasy football for nerds who are too nerdy for fantasy football.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (gd9RK)

380 366 I keep hearing that Iron Man succeeded because of execution, and that there's no way that Eternals could replicate that.

Yeah that's why I'm not saying that. Only that this is going to be a tough hill to climb, and could easily be MCU's first flop.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:54 PM (KZzsI)

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Here's another thing: I don't think Iron Man is actually very good.

There's the idea of the story, and the actual story. The actual story is staccato and doesn't really connect. Tony doesn't retreat from the world to become a hero. He retreats to play with his toys and then suddenly decides to become a hero while watching the news.

RDJ is charming as hell and papers over a lot of that, but the movie doesn't hold together that well.

So, I fully imagine Eternals being charming but messy and winning over audience hearts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (q80AH)

381 365 >>Well, looks like Uncle Joe is purposefully saying that he never talked business with his asshole son for a reason.

This is a great example of how bad our media really is.

You'd have to have the IQ of an eggplant to believe this yet almost nobody is challenging Slow Joe. They just all agree to lie to each other and call us conspiracy theorists.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)


Chinese]/s] Ukrainian walls?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (hGXZE)

382 That cat on MNF was pretty funny.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (J1rqr)

383 Damn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (hGXZE)

384 325 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico, because I guess NYC is such a hotbed of fanatical pro-Trump conservative thought.
_____________

We really need to cut Puerto Rico, a/k/a Welfare Island, loose.

Why are pouring billions of U.S. dollars into that corrupt shithole every year? We should give them their independence, with a warning that if they ever allow their island to be used to attack the U.S., we will nuke the whole damn place from orbit.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (k4dH2)

385 MSN headline:

"BREAKING NEWS: U.S. ambassador to EU described Ukraine quid pro quo in House testimony. Details to come."

We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hGXZE)


Dear MSN - We. Have. The. Transcript.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (77WPm)

386 See, Captain Marvel only did as well as it did because of the tie-in with the Avengers. If it had been a solo release, without context, it wouldn't have done very well. Even fans and people who wanted so badly for Captain Feminism to slaaaaay queeeen the boys said it was tepid at best.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (KZzsI)

387 †As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano†








Bullshit. She ain't afraid of nothin'. Shes just talking through her ass.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (tu/2g)

388 As an illiterate Latina who can't make her adjectives agrees with her nouns, she SHOULD be afraid. America has no patience for illiterates.
Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (fK2gX)

Right, she (if that is indeed her pronoun) should have used "Latina." Or the more politically correct "Latinx."

De Arellano better get going soon before she's arrested for BadThink.

Posted by: Zombie Walter White at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (1XNk8)

389 I despise political families but I'd vote for Donald Trump Jr in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (jUVms)

390 The Chinese term for that aggrieved left is baizao. In africa they call it The Western Disease. The working class is mostly immune.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (F/PuA)

391 I keep hearing that Iron Man succeeded because of execution, and that there's no way that Eternals could replicate that.

But we've seen nothing of Eternals except a logo. We don't know about the execution.

I'm not exactly some sort of fanboi. I think the whole MCU is a hugely mixed bag with a surprising number of bad movies in it, but Feige has obviously found a way to tap into a zeitgeist and I don't think it's wise to bet against him at this point.

Hell, Captain Marvel made over a billion dollars.

I fully expect the next crop to be making at least $750 million per movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:52 PM (q80AH)

I think there's something to be said for the fact that the Marvel Movies in the last couple of years function more like 2 hour episodes of a giant TV show that you have to watch in the theater.

If you've become invested in the story they've been telling since the first Avengers, chances are you want to see how it was going to end. So even if an individual episode wasn't your favorite, you were still probably going to see all or most of them, because you wanted to get the whole story.

I think Endgame sort of finished that. The season finished and the next season is starting. It remains to be seen that they can just continue the formula with less popular characters pulling the weight for another epic arc without the big names as the backbone. If people have been feeling superhero burnout (and I think a lot are), they might have toughed it out through Endgame, but I don't know how many are going to pick it up.

If I were to bet, I'd say that like a TV show that got renewed for seasons after it should have run it's course, the Marvel movies are going to peter out over the next few years.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (KUaJL)

392 Well, looks like Uncle Joe is purposefully saying that he never talked business with his asshole son for a reason.

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uh huh. It's pretty common for presidential relatives to get perks. But since the donks have gone all in on crazy, we have to pretend that this is the first time this has ever happened. Instead, we could be focusing in on making America great again and making Aerllano sadder.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (FEQY4)

393 Ah, Susanne is headed back to Puerto Rico. Not a smidgeon of corruption, post-hurricane water bottles are finally off the airport tarmac and into the stores. Paradise! Plus everybody speaks Spanish, just like NYC.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (COzlW)

394 373
yeah, here's the thing though about Marvel, about only 1/3 of their movies were good.

Iron Man II, Thors I and II, and a few other sucked. But I guess that's a better success rate than DC.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (FEQY4)

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And the good ones weren't great. I don't think they ever achieved greatness, but they got close with Guardians 1 and Captain America The Winter Soldier.

The Ant Man movies are bad. Guardians 2 was a structural mess about fathers where a father and son pair didn't meet until 1.5 hours in. And they all made bank.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (q80AH)

395
Susanne de Arellano's opening sentence:

I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Palestine of the Caribbean ...

Words - you sure know how to pick 'em, Sweet'ums ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 01:59 PM (pNxlR)

396 "As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America" - Susanne de Arellano

and yet, as a Trump supporter! in Trump's America a professional baseball catcher can't even wear a baseball cap without being doxed and his livelihood/life being threatened.

Posted by: Alice McD at November 05, 2019 01:59 PM (E+yET)

397 325 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico

This is great news. Take AOC with you. Flee to the safety of Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:59 PM (hGXZE)

398 That cat on MNF was pretty funny.


And scary. That was a big cat. Might have been half panther.

I heard it ate three human souls before it was finally captured.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:59 PM (gd9RK)

399 I see a lot of their baseball worship as just another form of cuckery. There was a Ken Burns/PBS special, it has stats, it's oh so cerebral, etc. But they never played. Never pitched or batted, hit a homer, had a rally, suffered through a 2 out nightmare (or vice versa), stood in the box and took a fastball in the 90s. It's just more Bull worship- another way to degrade themselves and be obsequious towards better men.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (87EdW)

400 "BREAKING NEWS: U.S. ambassador to EU described Ukraine quid pro quo in House testimony. Details to come."

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remember, the left's pulled back from THAT phone call and are alleging there's other phone calls...or something. Whatever, vote or don't vote. It dies in the Senate.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (FEQY4)

401 MSN headline:

"BREAKING NEWS: U.S. ambassador to EU described Ukraine quid pro quo in House testimony. Details to come."

We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hGXZE)

Well, I doubt he said that but if he did, it must have been a soooper secret quid pro quo that only he could see with his soooper powers of detecting secret quid pro quos. He's Quid Pro Quo Man!!

Posted by: LASue at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

402 379 I fully expect the next crop to be making at least $750 million per movie.


And this is what's wrong with young people. I'm sorry, TJM, it's not your fault that you were born late. This notion that box office has anything to do with worthiness.

How much did Seven Samurai gross?

Lawrence of Arabia?

Did either of them win Oscars?

I don't know because it doesn't matter. Greatness is greatness. Keeping track of box office is like fantasy football for nerds who are too nerdy for fantasy football.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 05, 2019 01:56 PM (gd9RK)

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It's indicative of how long a trend will last.

I want this stupid super hero movie trend to end, but it'll never end as long as Marvel is making money.

Every other studio will keep chasing those super hero dollars as long as the next Marvel movie makes bank.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (q80AH)

403 385 MSN headline:

"BREAKING NEWS: U.S. ambassador to EU described Ukraine quid pro quo in House testimony. Details to come."

We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hGXZE)


Dear MSN - We. Have. The. Transcript.


Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (77WPm)


Why would the ambassador to the EU be privy to any discussions of a "quid pro quo" between Trump and the Ukrainian president?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (hLRSq)

404 Just once I'd like these assholes who threaten to leave, to actually leave.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (RVnO7)

405 We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?"

She's the ex-Ambassador to Ukraine who got recalled by Trump, and she hates him for that reason. She was at the center of all of the plots by Biden and Obama.

So of course, she is Totes Impartial.

(btw, I believe Trump made her Ambassador to the EU in order to keep her under control, ie put a leash on her, while giving her a job that is totally inconsequential.)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

406 Nobody knows who Hunter Biden is, it's a stupid story.

Posted by: The Media at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (COzlW)

407 Susanne de Arellano - i looked her up, this was all some big cry about how she's leaving New York City to go back to Puerto Rico, because I guess NYC is such a hotbed of fanatical pro-Trump conservative thought.
Posted by: Tom Servo


All those f'n right wing New Yorkers should be ashamed of themselves! Yeah. You. All six of you.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (NJ+n1)

408 I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Palestine of the Caribbean ...

Should read: I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Armpit of America ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (hGXZE)

409 As a hetero white male I no longer feel safe in America.

Not actually sarcastic.

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:01 PM (mNUzX)

410 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

Posted by: artisanal 'ette

Neither do I. I fear getting attacked by violent thugs for supporting Trump. You can GTFO Suzie.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 02:01 PM (U7cQ/)

411 386 See, Captain Marvel only did as well as it did because of the tie-in with the Avengers. If it had been a solo release, without context, it wouldn't have done very well. Even fans and people who wanted so badly for Captain Feminism to slaaaaay queeeen the boys said it was tepid at best.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (KZzsI)

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This is such a lame excuse.

That explains a first week boom in business, but it kept making money for weeks.

People liked it so they went back and gave it a billion dollars.

I thought it was boring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:01 PM (q80AH)

412 Madame Defarge knits (Ana Navarro buffs her nails).

Posted by: Still Another Zap Rowsdower at November 05, 2019 02:01 PM (P/ALc)

413
Dear MSN - We. Have. The. Transcript.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 01:57 PM (77WPm)

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Its like facts dont even exist in bizaaro world.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2019 02:01 PM (8XRCm)

414 (btw, I believe Trump made her Ambassador to the EU in order to keep her under control, ie put a leash on her, while giving her a job that is totally inconsequential.)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)


Should've made her Ambassador to Somalia, or Yemen, or somewhere equally delightful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:02 PM (hGXZE)

415 391 If I were to bet, I'd say that like a TV show that got renewed for seasons after it should have run it's course, the Marvel movies are going to peter out over the next few years.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 01:58 PM (KUaJL)

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This is a better explanation than anything, I think.

I'm hoping for this. That people just simply lose interest with the loss of most of the heroes they've grown to know.

But I'm just a pessimist about this. Disney's gonna keep making money hand over fist with Marvel properties for another decade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:02 PM (q80AH)

416 Trump should make that EU ambassador read the transcript out loud...with feeling.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 05, 2019 02:02 PM (RVnO7)

417 Sounds like a bad day for Schiff.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 02:02 PM (ZLI7S)

418 Iron Man had two things going for him as a character
1) A howard hughes-like genius inventor was actually the guy IN the armor, not hiring it out
2) Power armor, which is just badass

But yeah, otherwise kind of a tepid character and setting. RDJ made the role interesting and history was made.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019


*
*

I dimly recall that in the comics, Tony Stark/Iron Man was an alcoholic. Was that wiped out in the movies?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:03 PM (Ejm1K)

419 I mean, we wanted Captain Marvel to fail because while Brie Larson is super cute and feminine, she's a bit of a PC dullard when she opens her mouth.

The movie didn't suck but it also didn't fit in with the MCU since they had her get buffed by a UFO engine while nerfing the rest of the field. So, she's too powerful, the Kree/Skrull/whatever made no fucking sense.

And her actual character's character was kinda striving for no reason. She had no motivation other than just another suit that likes beating people up.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:03 PM (FEQY4)

420 The Seven Samurai came in 3rd place at the Japanese film awards.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 05, 2019 02:03 PM (F/PuA)

421 From what I can see, the "Headlines" do NOT match the testimony. Out of context bullshit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (cEsBM)

422 So...had to step away for accouple of hours while Mrs D was in surgery. So far, so good.

I see Mexico has declined help from PDT to take care of the murderous thugs on the border.
Well, that's OK.
I for one don't give a shit what Mexico thinks. A 50 mile buffer zone beyond the wall should work just fine. A complete Free Fire area.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (axyOa)

423 414 (btw, I believe Trump made her Ambassador to the EU in order to keep her under control, ie put a leash on her, while giving her a job that is totally inconsequential.)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

Should've made her Ambassador to Somalia, or Yemen, or somewhere equally delightful.

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oh, are we pretending now that ambassadors aren't donors getting a nice quid pro quo perk for purely personal political gain?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (FEQY4)

424

Every other studio will keep chasing those super hero dollars as long as the next Marvel movie makes bank.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (q80AH)

The impact on other studios is hard to understate.

We've seen several attempts at a DC comics cinematic universe, and there was even the Universal Studios "Monster-verse" atrocity.

Studios keep trying to make Part 1 and forgetting that Part 1 needs to stand on it's own or else nobody is going to be interested in part 2.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (KUaJL)

425 nood

Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (mNUzX)

426 Nood.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (ECrgQ)

427 As a Latino, I No Longer Feel Safe in Trump's America Susanne de Arellano, NBC News

Wear a MAGA hat in California, then get back to me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (hGXZE)

428
I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Palestine of the Caribbean



Who the fuck thinks like that?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (oVJmc)

429
I dimly recall that in the comics, Tony Stark/Iron Man was an alcoholic. Was that wiped out in the movies?

===

he was a fun alkie in the movies

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (FEQY4)

430 People liked it so they went back and gave it a billion dollars.

I thought it was boring.


That's old school explanation. There are two billion people in china. If even one out of every thousand go see a movie, that's like half a billion dollars right there. People were not lining up to see Captain Marvel again and again.

Look at how your post ends. Nearly every review by actual viewers (not the paid-off pros) says the same thing. it was dull, it was not very good, it was meh, etc. ALL OF THEM, even the biggest pro-feminist fans around. I know, I talked to and read many of them.

Without that Avengers tie in people would have gone "captain who?" and been kinda turned off by what an obnoxious person Larson was being. You know that's true.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (KZzsI)

431 JFK.....Proud member of the NRA.

Posted by: MATT at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (lMn1U)

432 I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Palestine of the Caribbean ...

Should read: I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Armpit of America ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Arkansas?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (NJ+n1)

433 424 The impact on other studios is hard to understate.

We've seen several attempts at a DC comics cinematic universe, and there was even the Universal Studios "Monster-verse" atrocity.

Studios keep trying to make Part 1 and forgetting that Part 1 needs to stand on it's own or else nobody is going to be interested in part 2.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 02:04 PM (KUaJL)

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The multi-plex is so monotonous now.

No wonder I keep watching older movies that are as new to me as the newest superhero movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (q80AH)

434 We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 01:55 PM (hGXZE)

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Cuz it's govt and govt does nothing but grow and waste money. That's why.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (FiUMj)

435 430 Without that Avengers tie in people would have gone "captain who?" and been kinda turned off by what an obnoxious person Larson was being. You know that's true.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 02:05 PM (KZzsI)

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Fine. Expand it to "Part of the Marvel brand."

And extend that to the next slate of Marvel movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (q80AH)

436 408 I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Palestine of the Caribbean ...
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Yeah, poor "enslaved" Puerto Rico, which has repeatedly voted against independence from the U.S. -- because they don't want to give up the billions in welfare dollars they suck up from us every year.

F--k these whiners. PR could have been independent decades ago, if they weren't so damn greedy for other peoples' money. The only people "oppressing" Puerto Ricans are the Puerto Rican voters!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 05, 2019 02:07 PM (k4dH2)

437 Rush has been reporting that Bernie Sanders and Lieawatha are both promising to withhold aid to Israel if they don't change their stance on Gaza.

THAT'S quid pro quo.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:07 PM (NJ+n1)

438 I dimly recall that in the comics, Tony Stark/Iron Man was an alcoholic. Was that wiped out in the movies?

They kind of touched on it in Iron Man 2, but not really. It was his most interesting character trait, that he had to fight that problem and failed sometimes. The best storylines involved that, actually.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (KZzsI)

439
405 We have an ambassador to the EU? Why?"

She's the ex-Ambassador to Ukraine who got recalled by Trump, and she hates him for that reason.


He put her in Brussels, hoping she would sprout. He chose ... poorly.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 02:08 PM (pNxlR)

440 408 I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the Palestine of the Caribbean

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wow, she said that?

I think we learned our lesson with hawaii. next time, we'll just sign a 99 year lease for a naval base instead of giving you ingrates citizenship.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (FEQY4)

441 And extend that to the next slate of Marvel movies.

We'll see, but the problem is the Avengers that everyone was enjoying and wanted to see?

...are all gone. Thor is the only one left, and he's off in space being fat and dumpy.

It remains to be seen, but I suspect that Marvel is about to find out that their grand scheme is not going to serve them well by abandoning their best old classic characters for new woke ones.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 05, 2019 02:09 PM (KZzsI)

442 382 That cat on MNF was pretty funny.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 05, 2019


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Except for being short-haired, he/she looked much like my big black Wolf. Of course one black cat looks pretty much like another.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (Ejm1K)

443 I thought it was boring.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:01 PM (q80AH)
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Captain Meh.

And I was a huge CM fan--Mar-Vell is practically my favorite 70s hero. I can't believe they even had to make the Kree Mar-Vell a female.

It was gratuitous.

But as I said last thread, I'm an intellectual, that would prefer the movies to quit insulting my intelligence, so I stick to escapism.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:10 PM (YOhRS)

444 404 Just once I'd like these assholes who threaten to leave, to actually leave.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 05, 2019 02:00 PM (RVnO7)

Just once? I want to see it happen every fucking time.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (IpMhW)

445 Fine. Expand it to "Part of the Marvel brand."

And extend that to the next slate of Marvel movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 02:06 PM (q80AH)
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The Soy Wars brand wore out its welcome--probably the biggest brand ever in SF cinema.

What I hear from people who even bother with comics these days is that the writers know how to write Woke, they just don't know how to write stories.

Marvel can easily wear out their welcome by the a-story-is-where-we-subvert-expectations approach.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 02:13 PM (YOhRS)

446 Just once I'd like these assholes who threaten to leave, to actually leave.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob


Just once? I want to see it happen every fucking time.
Posted by: ...


Of course. But I'll settle for just once for starters.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 02:15 PM (NJ+n1)

447 12 cents of every Billion Dollars of foreign aid gets to the "people" of X location.

Posted by: klaftern at November 05, 2019 02:17 PM (RuIsu)

448 Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 01:49 PM (ZLI7S)
*******
SO 2WEEKS

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 05, 2019 02:19 PM (BqBId)

449 Apropos to nothing, baseball fans in the early 20th century were known as "cranks".

Posted by: Richard Roundtree at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (t8hbk)

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