What? Judge Overrules (?) Jury, Grants Father of James Younger Joint Custodianship Over Child, Giving Him Some Degree of Say (Maybe?) In Boy's Medical Mutilation?

I don't know what kind of input or voice he'll have, but this is better -- or is it? -- than it was yesterday.

But the judge is simultaneously slapping a gag order on the father, forbidding him from speaking publicly about the case.

That means that she might have granted the father "equal" voice in whether or not the boy is castrated and further encouraged to "socially transition" into a girl boy who wears lipstick, false eyelashes, and other drag-queen accoutrements, but that she'll also side with the mother on every point of dispute, and the father now will be forbidden, upon pain of contempt and jail, to say so in public.

Joint custodianship means that father and mother are equal. But, as they disagree sharply and in a binary way (are we allowed to say this is a binary choice), the judge will actually cast the tie-breaking vote in all disputes.

Think she'll do what judges almost never do and side with a man who is trying to make one more Cis Straight White Man -- one more Future Oppressor -- in the world?

Because I don't. This looks like it's full speed ahead for James' mom to pursue her weird Muchausen-by-proxy/sexual Stage Mom/vengeance on her husband plan.

It's just that the Ruling Class has now decreed that the Commoners shan't be allowed to hear about it nor agitate about it.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:44 PM




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1 Praise the Lord

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2019 05:44 PM (ZCEU2)

2 I called the corgis

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2019 05:45 PM (ZCEU2)

3

Premature Nood!

Posted by: Soothsayer Delicto at October 24, 2019 05:45 PM (nuLGR)

4

The last thread didn't go Full Term.

Posted by: Soothsayer Delicto at October 24, 2019 05:45 PM (nuLGR)

5

SINE DEGREE??

Is this boy a form of Calculus??

Posted by: Soothsayer Delicto at October 24, 2019 05:46 PM (nuLGR)

6 At some point he's just going to shoot this crazy bitch.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2019 05:46 PM (87EdW)

7 Any surgery or chemical done on a minor should only be for health reasons, not for the whim of a parent to change genders.

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2019 05:47 PM (ZCEU2)

8 2 wolves and a sheep are deciding what's for dinner.

Posted by: pep at October 24, 2019 05:47 PM (T6t7i)

9 The State of TX noticed and the judge has been told she's making TX look bad and now the judge is trying to find a way to back down without looking like she backed down.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 24, 2019 05:47 PM (qC1Sy)

10 80% of divorce is initiated by the woman.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (Vy7tf)

11
Does the father also get custody of the Function Of X?

Posted by: Soothsayer Delicto at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (nuLGR)

12 Child mutilation and dead people in containers.
Following the news is depressing.

Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (K3B2k)

13 Ah, so he'll get to be on record as agreeing to it this way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (AwI0L)

14 Thank God! He still has a long fight on his hands, but this is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (Y4EXg)

15 There's NO public purpose achieved by a gag order on the father. In fact it works AGAINST the public's right to know.

Impeach that judge.

Posted by: torabora at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (XrLji)

16 I'm pretty sure that in joint managing conservatorship, both parties have veto power over anything other than emergency medical care.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (Kpl3J)

17 Fuck this shit.

Posted by: MAGA at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (AXA68)

18 * strolls into grey box

I figured someone should storm the thread.

A little faith restored. Wonder how mommy queerest is taking it.

Posted by: Anonymous squirrel tribunal at October 24, 2019 05:49 PM (tvKLv)

19 >>
Premature Nood!
Posted by: Soothsayer Delicto at October 24, 2019 05:45 PM (nuLGR)

4

The last thread didn't go Full Term.
Posted by: Soothsayer

...

I actually meant to post this post next, but forgot to. This is newer news than the truck thing. I don't know how much there's to say about the truck thing, either.

I didn't check on the last thread but I imagine it wasn't getting too many comments about the story. And I'm not criticizing -- like I said, I didn't expect people would have a whole lot to say.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2019 05:49 PM (PbpT7)

20 The Texas AG is looking into this too

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2019 05:49 PM (O2RFr)

21 Child mutilation and dead people in containers.
Following the news is depressing.


I'm starting to enjoy those 1980s-era body-horror classics like The Thing and From Beyond for escapism.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 24, 2019 05:49 PM (ykYG2)

22 Think she'll do what judges almost never do and side with a man who is trying to make one more Cis Straight White Man -- one more Future Oppressor -- in the world?
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I think she might, if it is up to her, but wouldn't that be another legal proceeding?

Regardless, this one has a lot of people seriously pissed off and the judge might do the right thing simply to avoid retribution, potentially even from some rando. I think "will the judge do x" usually comes down to a complex matrix of ideology balanced against what the judge thinks he get get away with, with a dose of self-preservation and payola thrown in.

This one might be a coin-flip.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2019 05:49 PM (e/H31)

23 There needs to be a constitutional amendment against family law judges putting silence orders on parents. What? you don't want dads to speak out about your insane rules?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 24, 2019 05:49 PM (FEQY4)

24 I was thinking about this today. How much would I have to hate someone to chemically castrate and brainwash their child on purpose, in front of them?

And I concluded that I wouldn't, because if I hated someone that much I would have shot them and left the kid alone.

Seriously. Fuck this gay earth. If this is what we're trying to keep the US together for then bring on Miles Massey and split this up 'cause it ain't working anymore.

I hope, I hope to God, that this kid's twin has the mental fortitude to be there for his brother and be his anchor to sanity and reality, because you know God damn well that Mom isn't going to let any adults who conflict with whatever's rattling around inside her head near the kids.

Posted by: Vanya, Russian Spy at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (U7voe)

25 Writ of mandamus,
"A writ of mandamus is an extraordinary remedy that allows an appellate court to review a ruling made by a trial court even though the trial court has not yet made a final judgment in the case and a normal appellate remedy is not available. "

Texas courts have this. Shut the judge down.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (MItID)

26 Gag order probably happened because the case went nationwide in the last couple of days, but she should have put it on both. Still, the cat's out of the bag now, Governor's already talking about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (Kpl3J)

27 The wife is a sick fuck

Never sleep with crazy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (85Gof)

28 ooh, looks like ace barreled himself in the comments.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (ykYG2)

29

lulz @ Ace

Posted by: Soothsayer Delicto at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (nuLGR)

30 10 80% of divorce is initiated by the woman.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at October 24, 2019 05:48 PM (Vy7tf)

And the child support and the "separeate maintenance" and the house and the _____

No fault was a very bad idea

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (97clb)

31 Next up will be the mother's right to sell her living son's body parts for Botox money.

It's getting bad out there. Uncivil war clouds on horizon and no freaking power in Failfornia.

Posted by: torabora at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (XrLji)

32 if I chopped off a good discussion in the last thread, sorry, I just realized I had forgotten this story. I wrote it up a few hours ago.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (PbpT7)

33 One missed point is they went and got IVF, picked out their gender and how many they wanted (read aborting the other embryos). If you're shopping for kids like you would a car, why should we be surprised she wants to trade in for a different model...

Posted by: MJR at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (m5F46)

34 The wife is a sick fuck

Never sleep with crazy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (85Gof)
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This is far beyond mere crazy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (e/H31)

35 If he EVER get an hour alone visitation rights with the child, he is morally required to kidnap the child and flee the country. Only come out hiding when the son (and I do mean son) hits his 18th birthday.

It's the only way to save the child from state-sanctioned torture and mutilation.

Posted by: zombie at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (PsL+s)

36 i didn't barrel nothing, you guys need to get your filthy eyes checked

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (PbpT7)

37 My God. This is insane. And it happened in Texas. Yeah, Dallas. I might have f*cking known. There or Austin, that is where you'd find that sort of insane jury and judge.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (p0pYQ)

38 What? you don't want dads to speak out about your insane rules?

I AM THE LAW!

Posted by: The Rt. Hon. Judge Eric Cartman at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (ykYG2)

39 I hear some divorce/custody battles and I'm honestly shocked there aren't more murders.

And it's almost always the mother that's pushing the envelope.

I have a good friend, the ex-wife in an attempt to shake him down for more child support, accused him of molesting his daughter. It was completely disproven, but he was a somewhat high profile person and it made the papers.

Of course, nothing happened to her, just a standard legal shakedown. I can't even imagine what I would do if I had an ex-wife play games like that.

Posted by: Blago at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (sjTfF)

40 Well... TX bigshots are weighing in on dad's side (Abbott & Cruz), so I dunno for sure how it will end.

Posted by: mnw at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (Cssks)

41 "Never sleep with crazy"

Sleep with it?


Don't even put your dick in it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (cqNba)

42 It's a good but rare example of a Judge telling a jury "No, your ruling was idiotic, I'm throwing it out."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (Kpl3J)

43 I've never heard of mutual consent in joint legal custody final decision making. Usually the mother or father has the final say. The decision making is usually split into medical, religious, extra curricular, and school. Final decision goes father gets 2 and mother gets 2.

If the mother gets final decision making in medical or anything, then nothing changes.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (RUnSJ)

44 32 if I chopped off a good discussion in the last thread, sorry, I just realized I had forgotten this story. I wrote it up a few hours ago.
Posted by: ace at October 24, 2019 05:50 PM (PbpT7)

Jesus Ace we are talking about turning a boy into a girl and you use the word CHOPPED

Phrasing my good man

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (85Gof)

45 >>>I think she might, if it is up to her, but wouldn't that be another legal proceeding?


I do not know for a fact but I would imagine that one judge takes general ownership of ongoing situations as you find in family court.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (PbpT7)

46 If you're shopping for kids like you would a car, why should we be surprised she wants to trade in for a different model...
Posted by: MJR at October 24, 2019 05:51 PM (m5F46)

Free shipping!

Free returns!

Posted by: Vanya, Russian Spy at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (U7voe)

47 A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to exist.

Posted by: kallisto at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (3uHwI)

48 As I understand it, the father is the father, the mother carried the child from the father's sperm's union with an egg donor !there are, I think, twins). Now that there's trouble in paradise, this crazy leftist bitch harridan is seeking to destroy his suggestible offspring via tranny brainwashing to take vengeance on him. Everyone knows this is the case. How far will he be pushed? He's going to make a determination at some point that to save his son, he must sacrifice himself, I bet.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2019 05:53 PM (87EdW)

49 As I said this morning, Child Protective Services of each state, even the most conservative states are wholly run by radical progressives. Democrat governors are 100% on board with the agenda and Republican governors are too pussy to do anything about it.

Posted by: MAGA at October 24, 2019 05:53 PM (AXA68)

50 As Batman says about Joker in the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns: "There was nothing ever wrong with you that I couldn't fix with my hands."

Posted by: Max Power at October 24, 2019 05:53 PM (q177U)

51 39, in ancient, more civilized times, an unfounded accusation got the false accuser the same sentence as if they did the crime. Tends to cut down on that stuff.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 05:53 PM (MItID)

52 Leftist, man-hating judge.

of course she shut him up with a court order.

She got caught trying to kill the boy out of the boy, the mother's plan.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 24, 2019 05:53 PM (sy5kK)

53 I'd snark about Texas, Texans and penis chopping because I generally dislike Texas, Texans and their overblown opinion of themselves, their state and their self-serving mythos-fictions regarding the civil war and states rights.

But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...

Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 05:53 PM (K3B2k)

54 I'm pretty sure that in joint managing conservatorship, both parties have veto power over anything other than emergency medical care."

Which was the case prior to the father first seeking conservatorship... rather odd.
Also, gag order is for both sides.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 05:54 PM (6qErC)

55 GOP needs to go all in on anti LGBQT child mutilation.

Posted by: Max Power at October 24, 2019 05:54 PM (q177U)

56 I say let's go to war to save this healthy growing penis.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 24, 2019 05:54 PM (pB6Gt)

57 I do not know for a fact but I would imagine that one judge takes general ownership of ongoing situations as you find in family court.
Posted by: ace at October 24, 2019 05:52 PM (PbpT7)
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I have, thankfully, never been in family court. I didn't know that. I figure the next case gets a judge from the pool as it rises in the docket.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2019 05:54 PM (e/H31)

58 Pretty sure the judge is pro trans crazy friendly. Poor kid. I feel bad for him.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 24, 2019 05:54 PM (rXie1)

59 "Cooks also gave the two parents joint decision making over all medical, dental, and psychiatric care for the twin boys, indicating that both the father and mother need to consent to the use of puberty blockers or other aspects of a "medical transition." "

From: TheTexan

https://tinyurl.com/y2zke6be

Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2019 05:55 PM (cF8AT)

60 Gag order? Just try to stop me from gagging when I read about this case!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 24, 2019 05:55 PM (+y/Ru)

61 I'd like to remind everyone it was this area of Texas that gave the world "affluneza".

So Judge Cookie doesn't want to have to deal with the fallout on a daily basis and wants Strong to STFU and STFD.

We'll see what the state AG says I guess.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at October 24, 2019 05:55 PM (O8SrN)

62 Pretty sure the judge is pro trans crazy friendly. Poor kid. I feel bad for him.

And he has a twin.. What a f**ked up mess

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2019 05:55 PM (O2RFr)

63
I'd snark about Texas, Texans and penis chopping because I generally dislike Texas, Texans and their overblown opinion of themselves, their state and their self-serving mythos-fictions regarding the civil war and states rights.

But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...
Posted by: 13times

========

Texas is the state that brought you video of a couple of women being hauled into a field on a dark night by state troopers who took a notion into their heads to pull them over and do a digital search of their body cavities.

I'd say "Don't mess with Texas my ass" but I'm afraid that might be how it started with those two women.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (7OILk)

64 Mom should be shot out of a cannon. What a crazy bitch.

Posted by: IC at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (a0IVu)

65 I'd snark about Texas, Texans and penis chopping because I generally dislike Texas, Texans and their overblown opinion of themselves, their state and their self-serving mythos-fictions regarding the civil war and states rights.

But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...
Posted by: 13times

----

He seems nice.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (Y4EXg)

66 And he has a twin.. What a f**ked up mess
Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2019 05:55 PM (O2RFr)
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Theory I read is that his doctor mommy wants to do an experiment for which she would never get clearance. I sort of doubt it, because "crazy and evil" is a simpler explanation, but who knows.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (e/H31)

67 Judges will be made to answer for some shit. Can't wait.

Posted by: nip at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (Izot6)

68 Cooks also gave the two parents joint decision making over all medical, dental, and psychiatric care for the twin boys...

--

That's really going to f*ck with Dr. Mommy's control group for the $10M book and movie deal she's planning to sell about her twin study.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (AwI0L)

69 I've never heard of a judge casting the tie breaking vote. Now Parenting Coordinators i know are used. Judges are too busy to serve on family courts so how can they have time to name sound decisions when parents disagree?

Sounds like this entire thing is the Judge CYA using the public's ignorance and apathy to run cover for the best interests of the state and best interests of the mom.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (RUnSJ)

70 Also, gag order is for both sides.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 05:54 PM (6qErC)

Everything I read said only the father.

Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (cF8AT)

71 Cases like this definitely make me miss the Drift Compatible podcast (RIP.) Miss getting the legal side of these cases explained well, plus the Alex rants.

We need the wisdom of Solomon to solve crap like this, but we are sadly fresh out of Solomons.

Posted by: LizLem at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (hvf9s)

72 Child mutilation and dead people in containers.
Following the news is depressing.


And Rep. Katie Hill naked. Don't forget that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 24, 2019 05:57 PM (XVuno)

73 I've never heard of a judge casting the tie breaking vote.

King Solomon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2019 05:57 PM (85Gof)

74
"Cooks also gave the two parents joint decision making over all medical, dental, and psychiatric care for the twin boys, indicating that both the father and mother need to consent to the use of puberty blockers or other aspects of a "medical transition." "

From: TheTexan

https://tinyurl.com/y2zke6be
Posted by: Tami

========

I wonder how easy it is to sneak those substances into the kid's Frosted Flakes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 24, 2019 05:57 PM (7OILk)

75 Ace, if you haven't seen it: blogger Bookworm Room published a very good and definitive essay yesterday on the whole transgender craze and what it represents for human society:

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2019/10/22/ in-the-face-of-transgender-attacks-on-societal-norms-note-the-missing-science/

She really spells out exactly how 99% of normal people feel on the issue, and why the transgenderists are evil and crazy. Very very on-point and devastating.

Posted by: zombie at October 24, 2019 05:57 PM (PsL+s)

76 Honest question.

How are gag orders not an infringement of the 1st Amendment, particularly when it's a political issue involved?

Has this ever been tested in front of the Supreme Court?

It always amazed me the special protections the legal industry enjoys.

Posted by: Blago at October 24, 2019 05:57 PM (sjTfF)

77 So yes, judges can set aside jury verdicts.

The question here is how things will work out.

On the plus side, I'm seeing a lot of push back on the "therapy" (read: butchery) and how it violates just about every rule of medicine.

I'm honestly shocked that people aren't bringing suit that these "hormone blocker" aren't well-tested and often are being used off-label.

It looks like the good guys are finally taking this approach and hopefully they'll use the left's bureaucracy to checkmate its perverted demands.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 24, 2019 05:58 PM (cfSRQ)

78 generally dislike Texas, Texans and their overblown opinion of themselves, their state and their self-serving mythos-fictions regarding the civil war and states rights.

The historian Charles Ramsdell rather agrees with you: the Texians fucked the dog royally when they chose to join The Losing Cause.

Samuel Houston, on the other hand, was a god among men. I think most Tex(i)ans nowadays agree.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 24, 2019 05:58 PM (ykYG2)

79 The sidebar headline calls her an egg donor. She's not even that. She's not his biological mother.

Posted by: DrEviler at October 24, 2019 05:58 PM (/movR)

80 Everything I read said only the father"

Follow the link to court docs. There's more to this sordid tale...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (6qErC)

81 Remember the father still has to go to tranny re-education camp and cannot refer to his son as male words in front of his son or in public.

So nothing has changed. Mother has final say.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (RUnSJ)

82 Agree- sounds like this case started getting too much national attention and this is meant to squelch that as quickly and quietly as possible.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (Z1ykJ)

83 The South Will Not Be Rising Again.
Too soon?

Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (K3B2k)

84 66 that experiment was already done on a twin castrated via botched circumcision in the 70s. Raised as a girl, never told, etc. Always felt wrong, found out the truth, ended up killing self. Was known as baby x. The doc that recommended was lauded rather than getting treatment deserved. Sounds like she's going to get the socialism right this time.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (87EdW)

85 Agree- sounds like this case started getting too much national attention and this is meant to squelch that as quickly and quietly as possible.
Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (Z1ykJ)
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Like maybe it was supposed to quietly set precedent that would be used later after the kid's life was destroyed and the father committed suicide?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2019 06:00 PM (e/H31)

86 I get hating on New York, California, Massachusetts, Illinois, and Maryland but not Texas. Oh, and New Jersey but it's really just a punch line.

Posted by: dagny at October 24, 2019 06:00 PM (RsMZF)

87 Just think, now she and Charlize Theron can hang out and sip wine and chat and stuff.
Celebrity by proxy

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 24, 2019 06:00 PM (97clb)

88 Damn, Texas.

Posted by: North Carolina Gay Bathrooms at October 24, 2019 06:00 PM (AwI0L)

89 New Jersey

Posted by: Just the punchline at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (e/H31)

90 Couldn't that nutty bitch just get herself a Portuguese Water Dog and be satisfied with that?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (XVuno)

91 >>I'd snark about Texas, Texans and penis chopping because I generally dislike Texas, Texans and their overblown opinion of themselves, their state and their self-serving mythos-fictions regarding the civil war and states rights.

But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...
Posted by: 13times

Well you certainly aren't a Texan ....

Posted by: Aviator at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (2cuLk)

92 Mom should be shot out of a cannon. What a crazy bitch.

Mom needs a meet up with Leatherface.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (dUJdY)

93
Grab the kid and take him where there's no extradition.

Madness.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (zBaqJ)

94 There is quite a bit of caselaw here regarding judicial gag orders. Generally these fail if challenged under 1st Amendment grounds apart from during an actual trial where the right to a fair trial is involved.

Under TX laws, I would suppose that the minor's name and pictures might not be permitted to be posted but that varies by state to state. The Supreme Court generally considers newsworthiness as a factor as to whether a court may suppress public records. In this case, the countervailing interest would be privacy of the child. Since the trial is over, there is no additional risk of influencing a jury.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (MItID)

95 I was sad when I first heard this story.

Even more sad when I heard it was happening in Texas. Initial thought, "must be Houston. They've gone batcrap crazy there."

I was livid when I realized it is happening in D/FW, more or less my stomping grounds.

Coppell shares city limit lines with where I grew up.

This place is getting crazier and crazier as the population increases. We're bringing in people full-on Nutbar Factor 8 from all the other states we're better than, and they aren't leaving their crazy ideas at the state line.

Posted by: reason at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (XiVKO)

96 Mom needs a meet up with Leatherface.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (dUJdY)

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Keep me out of this! I have enough crazy to deal with, what with Terminators and all!

Posted by: Sarah Connor at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (qC1Sy)

97 The dad can fight the gag order, especially if he feels its been placed to allow the judge to endanger the child...now that the Governor has gotten involved there is a lot less opportunity for underhandedness...but I agree that there is no real purpose for the gag rule other than the Judge was professionally embarrassed by the public blowback and wants to avoid that going forward.

Any argument that the mother is in danger because of the publicity is just face saving cover.

Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (32YRo)

98 I'm still unclear on how there's no difference between boys and girls and we need to reinforce that by making little boys wear dresses and play with dolls because that's what girls are supposed to do.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (AwI0L)

99 Couldn't that nutty bitch just get herself a Portuguese Water Dog and be satisfied with that?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (XVuno)

What?!

ANYBODY can buy one of those!

But a Matched Set of twins? One trans and one cis? My God, *exclusivity*!!!! Even the Kardashians don't have that!

Posted by: Vanya, Russian Spy at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (U7voe)

100 that experiment was already done on a twin castrated via botched circumcision in the 70s. Raised as a girl, never told, etc. Always felt wrong, found out the truth, ended up killing self. Was known as baby x. The doc that recommended was lauded rather than getting treatment deserved. Sounds like she's going to get the socialism right this time.

And the doc had the twins act out sexual roles while he took pictures.

Totes normal.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (oVJmc)

101 92 Mom should be shot out of a cannon. What a crazy bitch.

Mom needs a meet up with Leatherface.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (dUJdY)


Mom should have to face a 40 MM quad, Whoa, Fat! style.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (zBaqJ)

102 I have joint legal custody. Ask me how many final days went my way. Ask me how many sporting events, extra curricular, school, and religious evens I've been told about that I have the right to attend and the mother must notify me.

Nothing has changed for the boy or the father.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (RUnSJ)

103 I heard Gov Abbot us launching an investigation into this case

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (G546f)

104 I know of Texas joint conservatorships where both parents have veto power over anything other than emergency care.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (Kpl3J)

105 It's like abortion, only after birth.

It's very difficult to figure out why the pre teen and teen suicide rates have increased dramatically, isnt it ?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (1U5Nb)

106 He started to like a happy meal toy meant for girls?


So obviously, generic toy = I want to be a woman named Luna

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (Z1ykJ)

107 This looks like it's full speed ahead for James' mom to pursue her weird Muchausen-by-proxy/sexual Stage Mom/vengeance on her husband plan

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This is a perfect description.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (jUVms)

108 In a sane world, ace wouldn't have to ban me if I said what I really wanted to say about this case.

But he would,,, so I won't.

But one of these days, Alice, one of these days...

Posted by: teej at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (I0I+D)

109 How long till there's human smuggling of little white "girls" into Thailand?

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (97clb)

110 93 
Grab the kid and take him where there's no extradition. 

...

It's come to this?

Posted by: AMERICA at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (keBn8)

111 The South will dash off a nasty Tweet.

Posted by: klaftern at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (RuIsu)

112 Damage control by the judge. Never would've overturned the verdict without the public and political outrage.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (nu45M)

113 Also note that the father will not pay atty fees...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (6qErC)

114 100- yep

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (87EdW)

115 Posted by: 13times

We don't like you either, you sniveling puke. Clearly we stole your girlfriend at some point. What was her name?

Posted by: Texas at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (XiVKO)

116 109 How long till there's human smuggling of little white "girls" into Thailand?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (97clb)


So, adding your comment to this post about government oppression, and all I come up with is...

JEFFREY EPSTEIN.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (zBaqJ)

117 Unless this guy ends up with full custody of this kid, there is 0% chance this poor boy doesn't murder women when he's an adult. This goddam lunatic is destroying this kid, and apparently there is a jury full of people that are cool with it.

We're at the breaking point as a society, and it's amazing to me that Texas is where the worst cracks would start.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (tRd71)

118 Judge is simply delaying the process.

The gag order on daddy is only to wait for the issue to leave the public attention and then it's back to full steam ahead for the permanent mutilation of this child.

otherwise, the "mom" would have been gag ordered. She's the criminal in this.

Posted by: Hereogar at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (eQ0LF)

119 It's not really that difficult.

These procedures should not be made available to minors. If you want to chop your cock off at your 18th birthday party, have at it, but gender reassignment surgery is not a life-saving procedure, it's cosmetic.

I don't know the rules for certain, but I imagine you probably can't get honker-enlargement of wiener-lengthenings when you are a minor without parental consent so you shouldn't be able to get a cock-section inversion or an addadicktome procedure either.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (aktsl)

120 Did someone say fucked up mess?

I'm in! Where?

Posted by: Rep. Hill at October 24, 2019 06:05 PM (XrLji)

121 But a Matched Set of twins? One trans and one cis? My God, *exclusivity*!!!! Even the Kardashians don't have that!
Posted by: Vanya, Russian Spy at October 24, 2019 06:02 PM (U7voe)

----------------

Actually, I'm willing to buy the "Kardashian" effect explanation. Sick as it is, people seem to be willing to do just about anything to become a "celebrity."

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 24, 2019 06:05 PM (qC1Sy)

122 So no gag order for the "mother"? Yeah, I would say this does not look good.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 24, 2019 06:05 PM (r+sAi)

123 97, this is not a criteria under federal 1st Amendment rights. Otherwise, all sorts of information derogatory to a person could be potentially blocked from release such as a Mafia witness who testifies in open court against his boss. The privacy interest would rest with the child because of potential future trauma but the other is newsworthy in that a licensed doctor of children proposed such actions to their own child.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:05 PM (MItID)

124 Agree with Bitter Clinger, no changing sex until after you are 18. PERIOD.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:05 PM (jUVms)

125 So the child will still be subjected to mental abuse from his mother? What is wrong with this judge? The left destroys everything it touches God help us. Go Trump, drain the swamp, MAGA!

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (lHDwv)

126 Was a guardian ad litem appointed for the child and did he/she/xhe agree with this insanity? I haven't followed the case closely enough to know, and Texas may not use GAL's but it certainly needs to do so when they have lunatics such as this one on the bench.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (iw59Q)

127 I wonder if the "judge" heard that there was an open seat on Air Pinochet?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (lD3vL)

128
FISA report pushed back to November per Sean Hannity.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (7OILk)

129 119 It's not really that difficult.

These procedures should not be made available to minors. If you want to chop your cock off at your 18th birthday party, have at it, but gender reassignment surgery is not a life-saving procedure, it's cosmetic.

I don't know the rules for certain, but I imagine you probably can't get honker-enlargement of wiener-lengthenings when you are a minor without parental consent so you shouldn't be able to get a cock-section inversion or an addadicktome procedure either.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (aktsl)



Uh uh, my friend. Thinking you are a woman trapped in a man's body IS a medical procedure, or so sayeth the psychiatrists. And psychiatry is in fact a root cause of social just madness. I had a link about this today or yesterday.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (zBaqJ)

130 But the judge is simultaneously slapping a gag order on the father, forbidding him from speaking publicly about the case.


I'm no legal eagle, but is there some wiggle room here? James Younger is forbidden from speaking publicly about the case. Meaning this particular legal proceeding, right? But wouldn't necessarily forbid Younger from speaking about HIS SON, going forward. Might need some help from legal counsel on how to verbally tiptoe around the gag order - that is, still publicly advocate for his son's protection while avoiding words that refer to the specific legal case.

Posted by: Hands at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (786Ro)

131 It's not really that difficult.

These procedures should not be made available to minors. If you want to chop your cock off at your 18th birthday party, have at it, but gender reassignment surgery is not a life-saving procedure, it's cosmetic.

I don't know the rules for certain, but I imagine you probably can't get honker-enlargement of wiener-lengthenings when you are a minor without parental consent so you shouldn't be able to get a cock-section inversion or an addadicktome procedure either.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:04 PM (aktsl)
++++++++++++
But that would limit the ability for child-abusing woke superstars.

These people are deranged and evil.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (e/H31)

132 This looks like it's full speed ahead for James' mom to pursue "

I guess we're reading very different stories then...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (6qErC)

133 God has to be so pissed off. I don't know how he checks his fire.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (1U5Nb)

134 122 So no gag order for the "mother"? Yeah, I would say this does not look good.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 24, 2019 06:05 PM (r+sAi)

Not what the story says. Story says "both parents."

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (hdzef)

135 "Muchausen-by-proxy/sexual Stage Mom/vengeance on her husband plan"

What is it about wine moms and Muchausen-by-Proxy?

Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (32YRo)

136 The mother is building her fucking modern parenting doctor's practice based on this using the internet. And the dad gets a gag order?
This tranny shit and family courts will be the spark for civil war 2.0.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (RUnSJ)

137 Dad needs to put together a plan to get these twins as far away as possible from this monster of a "mother".

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (dUJdY)

138 135 "Muchausen-by-proxy/sexual Stage Mom/vengeance on her husband plan"

What is it about wine moms and Muchausen-by-Proxy?

Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (32YRo)


It's more like Mauthausen by proxy with these sick, twisted evil bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (zBaqJ)

139 How long till there's human smuggling of little white "girls" into Thailand?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 24, 2019 06:03 PM (97clb)

Depends on the purpose of the smuggling, I'd imagine.

Surgeries? Maybe 10-12 years from now if nothing changes.

Sex Slavery? I wouldn't be surprised one bit if it's already happening.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (tVQUs)

140 The wife is a sick fuck

Never sleep with crazy
Posted by: Nevergiveup



Mengele Mom. She's a pediatrician doing research.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (3/f2v)

141 Actually thinking if there wasn't any change in this story wish it could have been viewed in a crystal ball.

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (ZCEU2)

142 Has there been anything more societally destructive than trans ideology? I mean, we've had trannies for a long time but they generally kept their heads down and tried to get on with their lives, as far as I know.

I wouldn't be surprised if pushing trans on children ends up being a precursor to pedophilia acceptance.

I can't imagine all the people in the next few decades that will end up being severely damaged because of this insanity.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (IwElB)

143 I know how I'm voting.

Posted by: RBG at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (keBn8)

144 Not what the story says. Story says "both parents."

Shhhhh. We're not supposed to point that out.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (6qErC)

145 136 The mother is building her fucking modern parenting doctor's practice based on this using the internet. And the dad gets a gag order?
This tranny shit and family courts will be the spark for civil war 2.0.
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (RUnSJ)


Be a real shame if somehow her office and house burned down and, heaven forbid, she were inside one or the other.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (zBaqJ)

146 Not what the story says. Story says "both parents."
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (hdzef)

So she has to take down her website for modern parenting and all pictures on internet of the boy dressed as a girl. I don't see that happening.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (RUnSJ)

147 Before everyone freaks completely, I looked at it some more and I think this was a better decision than is being perceived. Before this, the mother had ALL psychiatric treatment and medical rights. Father sued to change that; now he has been granted veto power over anything the mother proposes.

Gag order is probably because of the websites and hash tags that have sprung up about this case, but it's too late to stop those. Judge only has jurisdiction over parties to the case.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (Kpl3J)

148 He seems nice.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2019 05:56 PM (Y4EXg)

I actually do care about this child. I just don't appreciate when Texans snark about California wildfires, homes burning and people dying. And then the same folks talk about God and prayers. Yeah, it's that.

Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (K3B2k)

149 133 God has to be so pissed off. I don't know how he checks his fire.
Posted by: Marcus T



Think of it as mercy before the Final Judgment. All have a chance to repent but a Final Judgment is coming.

Posted by: Revelations at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (KvG31)

150 The mother is building her fucking modern parenting doctor's practice based on this using the internet. And the dad gets a gag order?
This tranny shit and family courts will be the spark for civil war 2.0.
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws


That's a line in the sand.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (3/f2v)

151 Did the judge put a gag order on the evil mother.

Posted by: MAGA at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (AXA68)

152 I wouldn't be surprised if pushing trans on children ends up being a precursor to pedophilia acceptance.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (IwElB)

Of course it is.

What the ever loving eff else would it be about?

Posted by: Vanya, Russian Spy at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (U7voe)

153 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (zBaqJ)

....

Oh, I understand what SOME psychiatrists claim, but that doesn't have to be what lawmakers and the courts rule.

Unlike climate change, I'd say you'll find plenty of medical professionals to say this science is not settled. Though I may be wrong, they may all just be interested in writing as many Oxy scripts as possible.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (aktsl)

154 but gender reassignment surgery is not a life-saving procedure, it's cosmetic

For many, it would appear to be a death sentence.

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says... at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (EgshT)

155 133 God has to be so pissed off. I don't know how he checks his fire.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 24, 2019 06:07 PM (1U5Nb)


"Second look at Sodom and Gommorrah, or the Flood?"

- - The Lord

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (zBaqJ)

156 The South Will Not Be Rising Again.
Too soon?
Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM



Not too soon. Too tenditious. Too pissy. Too passive-aggressive. Too dickish. But not too soon, so you're all good.

( And p.s., I'm not a Texan. Lifelong Yankee here. But shove off anyway )

Posted by: Hands at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (786Ro)

157 Wine moms, vodka dads.

Posted by: klaftern at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (RuIsu)

158 I wouldn't be surprised if pushing trans on children ends up being a precursor to pedophilia acceptance.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:08 PM (IwElB)

What else would it be?

Posted by: Surfperch at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (tVQUs)

159 btw if ypu guts read Sponge's link earlier today, it sounds like the twin might be getting abused too.
Apparently both kids do not like going home to mom

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (G546f)

160 The order will only apply to the father. 100% guaranteed.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (RUnSJ)

161 Before this, the mother had ALL psychiatric treatment and medical rights. Father sued to change that; now he has been granted veto power over anything the mother proposes.

Oddly enough, it was joint prior to the father's first action. No idea why he did that...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (6qErC)

162 We're at the breaking point as a society, and it's amazing to me that Texas is where the worst cracks would start.

Start?

Gov Perry thought it was a perfectly good idea to piss away millions of tax dollars to poach California and lure those Communist imbeciles into the great Republic of Texas.

Texas is turning into California East. At least all along the I35 and I10 corridors.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (lD3vL)

163 153 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:06 PM (zBaqJ)

....

Oh, I understand what SOME psychiatrists claim, but that doesn't have to be what lawmakers and the courts rule.

Unlike climate change, I'd say you'll find plenty of medical professionals to say this science is not settled. Though I may be wrong, they may all just be interested in writing as many Oxy scripts as possible.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (aktsl)


For sure, it's just that the cultural tide has turned and we are swamped in a sea of children who have taken everything, or almost everything over.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (zBaqJ)

164 I've never hit a woman, but then I've never met this monster of a mother. If I did, I would turn into Ike Turner.

Think for one second if a female minor's father wanted to allow her to get breast implants or hormone treatments or FUCKING ANYTHING LIKE THAT. A feminist mob would burn him alive like the parent did to Freddy Krueger. But tear a little boy apart? Fuck it: yaaayy queen!!

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (tRd71)

165 I'd snark about Texas, Texans and penis chopping because I generally dislike Texas, Texans and their overblown opinion of themselves, their state and their self-serving mythos-fictions regarding the civil war and states rights.

But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...
Posted by: 13times
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Bless your heart.

Posted by: Drc at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (lyaJC)

166 >>> These procedures should not be made available to minors. If you want to chop your cock off at your 18th birthday party, have at it, but gender reassignment surgery is not a life-saving procedure, it's cosmetic.

As Zombie has well explained to us, you need adult sex organs to do the gender transition surgeries. Never hit puberty, you are going to have probs making those surgeries feasible.

My sibling is trans, and they think all this messing with kids via hormone blockers and surgeries is monstrous. There ARE people in the trans community that think this is a bridge too far, that it should not be done until age 18. But they are marginalized by the louder, crazier trans voices, and people who think of themselves as trans allies who do not have to personally suffer the consequences of this madness.

Posted by: LizLem at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (hvf9s)

167 If you tattoo'd your seven-year-old, you'd lose the kid and your parental rights and probably do time.

Mutilate with chemicals and possibly surgery, stunt the child's development for life and immutably destroy a physically healthy child? The Court approves.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (oVJmc)

168 So she has to take down her website for modern parenting and all pictures on internet of the boy dressed as a girl. I don't see that happening.
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (RUnSJ)

Extent of the gag order is a different subject, but the gag order is on both parents.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at October 24, 2019 06:12 PM (hdzef)

169 ok, thanks franko

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 24, 2019 06:12 PM (r+sAi)

170 when Texans snark about California wildfire"

Sure thing. And bless your heart.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:12 PM (6qErC)

171 155:

""Second look at Sodom and Gommorrah, or the Flood?"

- - The Lord"

Fire then water to put it out.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 24, 2019 06:12 PM (iw59Q)

172 126 Was a guardian ad litem appointed for the child and did he/she/xhe agree with this insanity?"

I've advised people that they have to be very, very careful in asking for a Guardian Ad Litem - should only be used if both parents are dangerous (ie meth heads) and there's no other choice. A g.a.l. can go off in a direction and ask for things that *neither* parent wants to happen, including sending the kid to CPS.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:12 PM (Kpl3J)

173 Trump needs to make a strong statement.

Which will force every Dem to support this.

Posted by: Wut at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (keBn8)

174 Follow the link to court docs. There's more to this sordid tale...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 05:59 PM (6qErC)

Can't find a link to the court docs. Do you have one?

Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (cF8AT)

175 But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...
Posted by: 13times


What variety of asshole are you? Or just the fistula.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (zBaqJ)

176 tenditious = tendentious

Posted by: Hands at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (786Ro)

177 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (zBaqJ)

The 15-mile EF3 tornado was supposed to get her attention.

Posted by: God at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (XiVKO)

178 "Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (zBaqJ)"

"I know I said never again until Judgement Day. But I could be wrong ".

Posted by: Marcus T at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (1U5Nb)

179 If you're connected you can pick a judge but the jury too? Smells like there is more to come.

Posted by: dartist at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (K22Va)

180 The mother is in danger but not the child. If the judge only used the mother's safety as an excuse for the gag order, then throw another log on the fire.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (RUnSJ)

181 I still have hope in Texas...right until it goes blue.

Posted by: IC at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (a0IVu)

182 And psychiatry is in fact a root cause of social just madness.

---------

J.J., as usual, 100% correct.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (jUVms)

183 According to friends, the mom also emotionally abuses the other twin as well. Like taking away things he likes because he likes them.

Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (i/wJA)

184 Can't find a link to the court docs. Do you have one"

The previous Texan article (I've reached my limit on monthly views. Bummer)

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (6qErC)

185 It's not good enough just to crush them. You have to give them hope, and then crush them and their hope at the same time.

It's just sound policy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (Mtfre)

186 Agree with Bitter Clinger, no changing sex until after you are 18. PERIOD.

The whole Rainbow Flag nonsense should be illegal when applied to anyone under the age of 21.

Alan Turing got off lightly.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 24, 2019 06:15 PM (ykYG2)

187 "Thinking you are a woman trapped in a man's body IS a medical procedure, or so sayeth the psychiatrists."

Sure - these psychiatrists are driving this - they are trying to say its a medical condition but obviously they wouldn't medically alter people to look like tables or frogs if the patient professed to be one - especially a six year old who is role playing.

So this is really a "social" thing, not a mental issue at this young age...but even an 18 year-old thinking they are Ghengis Khan would require counseling and convincing them they are not this Mongolian killer - they wouldn't advice he grow a fu Manchu and slaughter his neighbors as a cure. It's all so much BS.

Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:15 PM (32YRo)

188 Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 06:09 PM (K3B2k)

Not enough Ricardo Kills around to counter the other kind. There was a true Gentleman. I wouldn't pay it too much attention.

Posted by: cbs snuuz at October 24, 2019 06:15 PM (vqIkG)

189 Texas is turning into California East. At least all along the I35 and I10 corridors.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (lD3vL)

Which JUST SO HAPPEN to be the main human-trafficking thoroughfares. Oooh, shocker.

Posted by: reason at October 24, 2019 06:16 PM (XiVKO)

190 Any pic's of the "mom" out there?
Seen the boy, and his dad.

Posted by: Paladin at October 24, 2019 06:16 PM (7hzzD)

191 2 Osprey helicopters just flew by. Made my evening. Those things aren't quiet.

Posted by: dartist at October 24, 2019 06:16 PM (K22Va)

192 What the ever loving eff else would it be about?

Posted by: Vanya, Russian Spy at October 24, 2019 06:10 PM (U7voe)


Exactly. I was reading the comments at SFGate (I refuse to link) and easily half of them were talking about children being sexualized when they're basically babies, and being able to make decisions like this. People fully convinced they had such cognitive powers at the age of 7 to decide their sexual future.

So of course a 3 year old would know full well if they were a woman trapped in a mans body. I guess babies undergo a mental puberty long before the body finally catches up.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 06:16 PM (Z1ykJ)

193 For those of you snarking about Texas, of course Texas has about the same relative number of complete idiots as anyplace else does, at times I'm convinced it's more. But the difference is how Government deals with the idiots, not whether or not they exist.

for a counter example, I think of Minnesota and the Dakotas as filled with Stepford Clones who all nod and say "yaaa sure" in unison and never ever do one single thing different than any of the rest would do. I'll take living with a bunch of entertaining idiots over that any day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:17 PM (Kpl3J)

194 California - a paradise, getting better, every day, one illegal immigrant hobo poop at a time.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at October 24, 2019 06:17 PM (O8SrN)

195 I want to kill the kid
I want to not kill the kid

match game to the wife

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at October 24, 2019 06:17 PM (JFO2v)

196 Any pic's of the "mom" out there?"

Yes.

And no. Ottoman dude is better.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:17 PM (6qErC)

197 182 And psychiatry is in fact a root cause of social just madness.

---------

J.J., as usual, 100% correct.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (jUVms)


I'm not perfect. But my thoughts on that subject I think are indeed accurate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:17 PM (zBaqJ)

198 This is a microcosm of how anti father and anti child the family courts are. This crazy shit happens in every state everyday now the abuse it trannytime.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:17 PM (RUnSJ)

199 Sigh.
More human scum.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2019 06:18 PM (axyOa)

200 That gag order needs to be lifted.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at October 24, 2019 06:19 PM (xmKbk)

201 191 2 Osprey helicopters just flew by. Made my evening. Those things aren't quiet.
Posted by: dartist at October 24, 2019 06:16 PM (K22Va)


I just saw a YouTube mini doc on the Fairey Rotodyne. I think there might be a market for it today, 60 years later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:19 PM (zBaqJ)

202 It's a small victory, but it's not the end of the fight.

According to LifeSiteNews, although he's still joint conservator of both children, he's actually going to be getting less time to spend with them. On the other hand, the mother no longer has full control over their psychological care.

So far, no one has gone into detail about the other issues; whether Mr. Younger needs to "affirm" the trans persona or if he's allowed to have his children in contact with others who also do not "affirm" the persona - which bring up some serious first amendment issues, considering that he and the children are Orthodox Christians. (Mom was too, but apparently is no longer practicing.)

At the very least, though, this has apparently bought some time. I'm sure it's not the last battle here, and I think the gag order on the parents is mostly to keep him from making the next round public - and I'm sure there will be a next round. So... we're not out of the woods yet.

Posted by: Katja at October 24, 2019 06:19 PM (fFYAm)

203 But with a GAG ORDER. Yeah, that's a "say" in his son's life, not being able to rally people to your side.

Posted by: vrf at October 24, 2019 06:19 PM (L8qt4)

204 "142 Has there been anything more societally destructive than trans ideology? I mean, we've had trannies for a long time but they generally kept their heads down and tried to get on with their lives, as far as I know.

I wouldn't be surprised if pushing trans on children ends up being a precursor to pedophilia acceptance."

It's more likely to be the precursor to the upcoming unpleasantries seven out of 10 Americans expect. But, yes, "pedophilia is a lifestyle, haters" is coming soon to be another precurse(r).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 24, 2019 06:19 PM (iw59Q)

205 >>> According to friends, the mom also emotionally abuses the other twin as well. Like taking away things he likes because he likes them.
Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (i/wJA)

This is probably evil of me to suggest, because I know how important siblings are, but can they do a Parent Trap? Give each parent one child and let that parent dictate how that child is raised? Whichever one goes to the mom is a lost cause. But at least one child has a chance of growing up sane, instead of damaging both utterly as some sort of twisted psych experiment for the mom.

Posted by: LizLem at October 24, 2019 06:19 PM (hvf9s)

206 Those poor boys have already been destroyed. Don't know how they can come back from what they have bee n exposed to.

Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2019 06:20 PM (m+0jM)

207 Think of it as mercy before the Final Judgment. All have a chance to repent but a Final Judgment is coming.
Posted by: Revelations

This

Posted by: Anonymous squirrel tribunal at October 24, 2019 06:20 PM (tvKLv)

208 Everyone at the school James attends knows he is a boy now. Previously, that was not known by his classmates. I, sadly, assume there will be some asshole older kids that will probably make this child's life even more miserable. I don't see how poor James will ever escape from this horror. He will forever be an object of curiosity or worse on the internet.

Posted by: Ever at October 24, 2019 06:20 PM (ZZDMQ)

209 BREAKING on CNN: Conservative hero Mitt Romney calls for impeachment of judge. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS at October 24, 2019 06:21 PM (aVEot)

210 Eugene Volokh indicates in a 2014 post that the following precedents might apply to child custody battles and gag orders. Troxel v. Grandville, 530 US 57 (2000) but contra Smith v. Daily Mail 443 U.S. 97 (1979). Grandville suggests it that child's interests in privacy must fall to that of a constitutional right to free speech and free press.

Seminal case is Nebraska Press Assoc. v. Stuart in 1976 which dealt with a gag order during a trial.

A similarly controversial family court case in Mass, Justina Pelletier, where doctors in a Mass hospital connived with the Mass social workers to take Justina from her parents because the parents sought alternative treatment for the daughter at another hospital.

Court had to drop the gag order after national publicity and Alan Dershowitz weighed in.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:21 PM (MItID)

211 Gag order means dad can't raise money online for appeals or other legal means.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:21 PM (RUnSJ)

212 And psychiatry is in fact a root cause of social just madness.

I have to agree and this has nothing to do with anything but I have a SIL who went to a therapist for years. Her advice? Say what's in your mind. Don't sugarcoat. You have to tell people what you think. Yeah a few years later she was a raging cokehead and alcoholic. She was unbearable to be around.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (dUJdY)

213 201 191 2 Osprey helicopters just flew by. Made my evening. Those things aren't quiet.

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akkkkshually, when they flew by the Nats Wild Card game I thought they were remarkably quiet.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (FEQY4)

214 Ospreys have a distinctive sound, very different pitch than H-6Os or Hueys or Cobras or MH-53s. Can tell by the sound every time before seeing them.


There were a few flying by very close to shore at the beach yesterday. A few Cobras, too, which I don't understand. Maybe using the field down near the border for practice landings.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (QDnY+)

215 209 BREAKING on CNN: Conservative hero Mitt Romney calls for impeachment of judge. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS at October 24, 2019 06:21 PM (aVEot)


I wish we can find Pee-Air Defecto's faygele classmate whom he abused and have him shave the good Senators nuts... with a chainsaw.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (zBaqJ)

216 This sounds like it is just a way to shut him up.

So mom gets all she wants, and dad has to eat it, and like it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (LWu6U)

217 The previous Texan article (I've reached my limit on monthly views. Bummer)

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (6qErC)

I posted that Texan article in a previous thread and this one. I don't see any link to the actual court docs in it. I'll check again....

Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (cF8AT)

218 106 He started to like a happy meal toy meant for girls?

So obviously, generic toy = I want to be a woman named Luna
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Now, that explains a lot! I think that one Happy Meal toy was "Luna Girl" from PJ Masks.

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (JXKKq)

219 He is hosed. Fathers are essentially persona non-grata in family court. Even in Texas! Thats astounding. This is not the 50s, where women needed TONS of economic and social protection upon divorce. This is absurd.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (fYi9j)

220 lolz, just kidding, I mean i thought they were quiet. but maybe they were in whisper mode.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (FEQY4)

221 According to friends, the mom also emotionally
abuses the other twin as well. Like taking away things he likes because
he likes them.

Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2019 06:14 PM (i/wJA)

Maybe she's going to try to turn him into a psycho killer. Books, talk show circuit - why stop at just one?

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (Z1ykJ)

222 212 And psychiatry is in fact a root cause of social just madness.

I have to agree and this has nothing to do with anything but I have a SIL who went to a therapist for years. Her advice? Say what's in your mind. Don't sugarcoat. You have to tell people what you think. Yeah a few years later she was a raging cokehead and alcoholic. She was unbearable to be around.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:22 PM (dUJdY)

Lots of advice, therapy or otherwise these days, is essentially to be an stupid asshole. Be prideful! Indulge your greed, lust, and envy! It's not you, it's them!

Posted by: Someguy at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (BiWEa)

223 Those poor boys have already been destroyed. Don't know how they can come back from what they have bee n exposed to.
Posted by: Infidel


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I think in a lot of cases the high levels of anxiety, self-loathing, and rage are worked out when the kid kills the offending parent.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (Y4EXg)

224
But the judge is simultaneously slapping a gag order on the father, forbidding him from speaking publicly about the case.

He was supposed to be on Glenn Beck's radio show tomorrow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (aKsyK)

225 1 Gag order means dad can't raise money online for appeals or other legal means.
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:21 PM (RUnSJ)

Someone can do it on his behalf still, I imagine.

Posted by: reason at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (XiVKO)

226 175
But I'm not a asshole Texan and thus refuse to engage in that sort of thing...

Posted by: 13times





What variety of asshole are you? Or just the fistula.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (zBaqJ)

I'm the of variety that mocks people with pockmarks. Hey, wait a tic, that's you! Well, gosh, I guess your pettiness can be overlooked, but mine is Beyond The Pale.I best mind my low third-tier clique station here.

Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (K3B2k)

227 @218 - Actually, he wanted to be "Starfire" from Teen Titans, but the mom and therapist thought that was a bridge too far.

I kid you not.

Posted by: Katja at October 24, 2019 06:24 PM (fFYAm)

228 193, Tom, I take this case more as an example of the blue model city social model versus the country rubes that happened to occur in Texas. It might be less remarkable if it occurred on San Francisco.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:24 PM (MItID)

229 Ba'al is hungry for your babies, America.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (UUkQp)

230 I don't consider myself a violent person, but what is being done to this little boy has me angry at a level that scares me.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (TdMsT)

231 OT plea for info. Tami, BlueBird of F'ing Joy and myself have been down every rabbit hole and trail trying to locate rickl. I have his home address and we have a phone #. Calls have been made to neighbors , no answers, just try to get a hospital or Dr's office on the line. Skip lives too far away to ask him to go. I am now at a loss for what else to do.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (7QGOK)

232 I just saw a YouTube mini doc on the Fairey Rotodyne. I think there might be a market for it today, 60 years later.

Very cool. Looks like a single rotor version of the Osprey. I wonder if some of the design came from the Fairey Rotodyne.

Posted by: dartist at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (K22Va)

233 The trannie community pushes the early intervention (ie abusing the prepubescent boys) so they can interrupt puberty and stop male characteristics from forming,


Everyone knows that artificial hormones are a very likely source of cancer. I don't see how just the threat of cancer doesn't stop parents and children and even older nutball from not doing the hormones.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (nRWPy)

234 225 1 Gag order means dad can't raise money online for appeals or other legal means.
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:21 PM (RUnSJ)

Someone can do it on his behalf still, I imagine.
Posted by: reason at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (XiVKO)

Dad can't talk about it so how would somebody find current information to raise money about to hire the right lawyers and experts?
See?

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (RUnSJ)

235 I think ace is right and we don't necessarily have anything to celebrate yet.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

236 Well, if I do have a recognizable screed, this is it:

Remember when The Left told us how these personal decisions would never affect you - and - me normies?

Bullcrap! We knew they were WRONG and/or LYING.

It is alway Push , Push , Push further.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at October 24, 2019 06:26 PM (xptlg)

237 Lots of advice, therapy or otherwise these days, is essentially to be an stupid asshole. Be prideful! Indulge your greed, lust, and envy! It's not you, it's them!
Posted by: Someguy at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (BiWEa)


Yep, pretty much.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:26 PM (dUJdY)

238 >>>But the judge is simultaneously slapping a gag order on the father, forbidding him from speaking publicly about the case.


Everyone else is going to though.

Posted by: Roy at October 24, 2019 06:26 PM (ABjxW)

239 Ladyl, you and me both.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2019 06:26 PM (7QGOK)

240 My kids are around the same age, and I think we actually have that dumb "Starfire" toy... She's dressed as a ninja, with a shock of pink hair coming out of the back of her head.. Apart from the hair, you wouldn't know if she were a boy or girl.

Posted by: Katja at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (fFYAm)

241 Heard to caller to Seb Gorka's radio show today make a salient point: if cultural appropriation is wrong, then why isn't gender appropriation also wrong?



Posted by: ShainS at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (Pj84p)

242 186 Agree with Bitter Clinger, no changing sex until after you are 18. PERIOD.

The whole Rainbow Flag nonsense should be illegal when applied to anyone under the age of 21.


I see your 21, and raise it to 25. Science backs this up, and brain is not fully developed *physically* until around then. But of course people continue learning and developing mentally well beyond that age.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (LWu6U)

243 Gag order means dad can't raise money online for appeals or other legal means.

Posted by: strong pimp

I don't think that gag order will stand in this case. The father can appeal and the public's right to know that courts are ordering or can order a 7 year old to be chemically castrated will over ride the concerns of the Judge for her professional reputation. And the Governor is involved now - so there is a no small amount of leverage in that office over state judicial proceedings...

Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (32YRo)

244 Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (7QGOK)


Call nonemergency # to local PD and ask for a health and welfare check.

Posted by: Wut at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (keBn8)

245 181
I still have hope in Texas...right until it goes blue.

Posted by: IC at October 24, 2019 06:13 PM (a0IVu)
At least it has to move in that direction for it to happen.
What brilliant ideas can we import do you think?

Decorative Pumpkin taxes? Higher gas taxes that leave us puzzled about why gas prices are so high? Perhaps we can prevent any new electric power generation plants from being built, then outlaw the use of natural gas in homes and business? Maybe we can adopt land policies that will force the entire state to become a giant tinder box!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (O8SrN)

246 93
Grab the kid and take him where there's no extradition.

Madness.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (zBaqJ)

Yep.

Posted by: Father's of all of the missing kids photos at every Walmart in the nation. at October 24, 2019 06:28 PM (Vy7tf)

247 228 193, Tom, I take this case more as an example of the blue model city social model versus the country rubes that happened to occur in Texas. It might be less remarkable if it occurred on San Francisco.
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:24 PM (MItID)

yeah, what disturbs me is that the Jury voted 11-1 in favor of the mother. Thank heavens the Judge overturned their decision.

This wasn't a total win for the father, but it was a partial win, and he's in better shape than he was before the case. I don't think the pessimism is justified.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:28 PM (Kpl3J)

248 How there aren't wind chimes outside of every courthouse in America amazes me.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:28 PM (RUnSJ)

249 >>> He is hosed. Fathers are essentially persona non-grata in family court.

I've been dating this guy recently that has kids from a previous marriage. He is the sole parent. Good kids, but the bio lady (she does not get the privilege of the term "mom") wants nothing to do with them. I simply do not understand some people.

Posted by: LizLem at October 24, 2019 06:28 PM (hvf9s)

250 I know what you mean Ladyl. We all have a dark side. I would have a very hard time supressing mine if that wench were in front of me right now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (dUJdY)

251 There ARE people in the trans community that think this is a bridge too far, that it should not be done until age 18. But they are marginalized by the louder, crazier trans voices, and people who think of themselves as trans allies who do not have to personally suffer the consequences of this madness.
Posted by: LizLem at October 24, 2019 06:11 PM (hvf9s)

Oh, it's usually a vocal totalitarian minority. I bet most actual trans people (not fashion trans gender nonbinary silly people) also think trans"women" should not compete at sports against actual women.

I think transgenderism is a serious mental condition that should be be treated, and not by bodily mutilation, which I think should be against medical ethics.

However, I won't treat a person who decided to "transition" badly just because I think he/she is sadly misguided as long as they just want to live their lives and not bother anyone.

It's the screaming banshees that are terrorizing society.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (IwElB)

252 The trannie community pushes the early intervention (ie abusing the prepubescent boys) so they can interrupt puberty and stop male characteristics from forming,


Everyone knows that artificial hormones are a very likely source of cancer. I don't see how just the threat of cancer doesn't stop parents and children and even older nutball from not doing the hormones.


And drag queens and trannies are just black face re women.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (nRWPy)

253 243 Gag order means dad can't raise money online for appeals or other legal means.

Posted by: strong pimp

I don't think that gag order will stand in this case. The father can appeal and the public's right to know that courts are ordering or can order a 7 year old to be chemically castrated will over ride the concerns of the Judge for her professional reputation. And the Governor is involved now - so there is a no small amount of leverage in that office over state judicial proceedings...
Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (32YRo)

He's broke. Appeals cost 10's of thousands of dollars.

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (RUnSJ)

254 Of course I'm a bit extremist on this stuff.

It's my belief that the human brain develops in phases and from most of what I've read parts of don't even fully develop until you are about 24-25 YO.

I personally think, unless you are seeing suicidal/homocidal attempts or obsession in that direction, that even psychotropic drugs or ADHD meds shouldn't be administered to developing brains, and though I have no studies to back me up, I suspect the administration of psychotropic drugs to children is responsible for the increasing number of suicides among our youth, either directly or from those that turn of age and stop taking them.

I consider it like putting your kid through knee surgery when they have pain during a growth spurt that would eventually sort itself out, it's an extreme permanent solution for a temporary problem that may likely have future repercussions.

I would have never let them put my daughter on that stuff. Never. And if they wanted to give her hormone blockers, it would be war, and I do mean war.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (aktsl)

255 Dad can't talk about it so how would somebody find current information to raise money about to hire the right lawyers and experts?
See?
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (RUnSJ)

I see your point. I'd imagine the biggest hurdle for dad is funding, though.

Raise the money. Get the money to him. Hopefully he can figure out the right representation he needs.

Posted by: reason at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (XiVKO)

256 246 93
Grab the kid and take him where there's no extradition.

Madness.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:01 PM (zBaqJ)

I've heard that Culiacan, Mexico, doesn't have a lot of government presence right now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (Kpl3J)

257 . I don't see any link to the actual court docs in it"

Pretty sure that led to it - also the divorce mess. These are two messed up people.

The kids are, well...damn. I can't imagine treating kids like that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (6qErC)

258 I think I would defy the gag order and publish a blog from prison (though an attorney) if I had to.

Gag orders are the most obnoxious rulings around. This is a hill to die on while trying to protect a child.

Giving more power to a judge is not the solution, and if the judge is impartial (i think not) then she will withhold the puberty blockers regardless of what the father says or does.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (LWu6U)

259 I'd be delighted if people could just stop with the "I hate the state of ______" and just make their point about this particular decision. I have a feeling I won't be delighted though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (WI7YS)

260 Bad enough that the left kills them before birth, but now they want to mutilate them while growing up and off them when they get old and inconvenient.

I'd say the Mayans cutting human hearts out with obsidian blades at least had some panache.

Posted by: Roy at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (ABjxW)

261 How long has rickl been missing, I thought I saw his nic recently?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (nRWPy)

262 214
Ospreys have a distinctive sound, very different pitch than H-6Os or
Hueys or Cobras or MH-53s. Can tell by the sound every time before
seeing them.

First ones I've seen or heard live. Big sound but can't tell where it's coming from.

Posted by: dartist at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (K22Va)

263 saw a YouTube mini doc on the Fairey Rotodyne. I think there might be a market for it today, 60 years later.

Very cool. Looks like a single rotor version of the Osprey. I wonder if some of the design came from the Fairey Rotodyne.
Posted by: dartist at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (K22Va)

I just watched that as well, didn't really understand the need for the Rockets in the Blades

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (dKiJG)

264 He doesn't need to appeal. He won.

he didn't win everything he was asking for, but he did win.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (Kpl3J)

265 I see your 21, and raise it to 25. Science backs this up, and brain is not fully developed *physically* until around then. But of course people continue learning and developing mentally well beyond that age.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 24, 2019 06:27 PM (LWu6U)

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I don't disagree, however, in keeping with my "if you want to trash your life you have that right just don't make me pay for it" stance, I'll stick with 18.

But I agree with your age/brain development deal.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (jUVms)

266 Call nonemergency # to local PD and ask for a health and welfare check.

Or just call a local church to do same.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 24, 2019 06:31 PM (lD3vL)

267 13times, I was trying to meet you halfway up there (I've actually lived in Texas) but... now you're being a dick.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 24, 2019 06:31 PM (ykYG2)

268 237 Lots of advice, therapy or otherwise these days, is essentially to be an stupid asshole. Be prideful! Indulge your greed, lust, and envy! It's not you, it's them!
Posted by: Someguy at October 24, 2019 06:23 PM (BiWEa)

Yep, pretty much.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:26 PM (dUJdY)

That's never been my personal experience, but YMMV.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 24, 2019 06:31 PM (NWiLs)

269 Wut, We have explored that option but there are things that happen with that that rick would not want.

If he is hospitalized that still doesn't give us any information.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2019 06:31 PM (7QGOK)

270 I almost suspect the jury botched their "verdict" because they didn't understand the jury charge or something like that. Probably they didn't want to give sole conservator to the dad ... but they also didn't want to give to the mom (which was more or less what the prior status was), but they wanted to change the previous/existing status somehow.

Inconsistent/botched jury verdicts happen, especially with a family law judge that's probably an idiot and doesn't do many jury trials anyway.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (hdzef)

271 That's never been my personal experience, but YMMV.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 24, 2019 06:31 PM (NWiLs)

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You've been very fortunate.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (jUVms)

272 {{{Ben Had}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (TdMsT)

273 231 Ben Had, I hate to intrude on another's privacy, but so many of us are worried about rickl. Would it be too intrusive to give the town location, in case there is someone closer than Skip. You hate to have police do Wellness Checks, but sometimes that is the only option, too.Thank you and Tami for trying to reach him. Wish we could all hold his hand and help.

Posted by: Ever at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (ZZDMQ)

274 I detest Gag orders, I can't see any reason for them that's not a government secret

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (ZCEU2)

275 FWIW, the Dallas Morning News has quotes from the judge that shed a bit different light...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (6qErC)

276 Let me go back a couple of threads.

Terminator Genisys could have been awesome. But it wasn't.

I thought if they did a reboot Terry Crews would have been an excellent Terminator.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (ZfRYq)

277 Everyone knows that artificial hormones are a very likely source of cancer. I don't see how just the threat of cancer doesn't stop parents and children and even older nutball from not doing the hormones.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 24, 2019 06:25 PM (nRWPy)

What's cancer compared to the opportunity to virtue signal? Look at *her*. Her kid is trans. Squeeeeee!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (IwElB)

278 267
13times, I was trying to meet you halfway up there (I've actually lived in Texas) but... now you're being a dick.
You're right. I'm being a jerk. I'm ticked off at a lot of things today and am taking it out on people.

Posted by: 13times at October 24, 2019 06:33 PM (K3B2k)

279 dagny, Tami emailed him a week ago and no answer. He is usually very good about return email.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2019 06:33 PM (7QGOK)

280 250 I know what you mean Ladyl. We all have a dark side. I would have a very hard time supressing mine if that wench were in front of me right now.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:29 PM (dUJdY)


{{{Jewels}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at October 24, 2019 06:34 PM (TdMsT)

281 he didn't win everything he was asking for, but he did win."

Indeed.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:34 PM (6qErC)

282
Are we just trying to find out whether rickl is still alive? He was quite sick and sinking. It's sad but reasonable that he wouldn't be posting.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 24, 2019 06:34 PM (7OILk)

283 I'd be delighted if people could just stop with the "I hate the state of ______" and just make their point about this particular decision. I have a feeling I won't be delighted though.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2019 06:30 PM (WI7YS)

You're only saying that cuz you're from Jersey.

J/k!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (IwElB)

284 Seems we've disappointed 13 times. I'm heartbroken.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (flINI)

285
FWIW, the Dallas Morning News has quotes from the judge that shed a bit different light...
Posted by: Anon a mouse a

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Link? This evil has baffled us.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (7OILk)

286 271 That's never been my personal experience, but YMMV.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 24, 2019 06:31 PM (NWiLs)

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You've been very fortunate.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (jUVms)

I guess. I've never been to a therapist who ever told me to be a raging asshole, indulge every aspect of the worst side of my nature, etc. I could see Jane D'oh's life coach relative doing that I guess. Now, I've certainly been to some ineffective ones but that's a different story.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (NWiLs)

287 Spanish socialists have dug up Francisco Franco's body and flown him to be buried in a family crypt.

First I've heard of this. I know they have been trying to move him from "The Valley of the Fallen", make it less of a Nationalist memorial.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (MwFQu)

288 Re 247, it appears that the jury had sympathy for the wife because the husband was a poseur/fraud. Not sure if the jury could hear what the loving mother intended for the children though. I think that their decision was simply who was the best for the mother.

I honestly think that part of this poisoning of the family is from the idea of overpopulation by the elite so the destruction of the family, abortion up to birth, etc. is designed to pit women against men so that ordinaries do not reproduce. Importation of a servile caste will then take the place of the troublesome citizens.

The original Kingsmen which was surprisingly good had a take on that and I suspect that the guy who wrote the screenplay had got the idea for the villains from somewhere among the trendy elites in Horridwood Town.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (MItID)

289 {{{Jewels}}}
Posted by: Ladyl at October 24, 2019 06:34 PM (TdMsT)

Hold on - does that mean you're Jewish?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (Kpl3J)

290 "I hate the state of ______"

Confusion?

Heh. But yeah. It's tiresome.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (6qErC)

291 Ben Had, what Wut said @ 244- Cit/County officer welfare check. They do it all the time.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (UUkQp)

292 Ever, it's Warminster, PA.

The local Cancer Support group was useless in the extreme.

I called all the printing places near his location but I never found the right one.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (7QGOK)

293 I don't have much doubt this sort of idiocy is going to be a future chapter in the annals of medicine, somewhere after bloodletting, trepanation, ingestion of mercury, and lobotomies. We won't be able to ignore all the suicides and murder/suicides 40 years from now.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (Z1ykJ)

294 The AirForce museum had a Osprey flyover for a Vietnam Vet rescue reunion. They flew so low and couldn't see where it was. The Pilot said that with it being ceramic you really don't hear the bullets hitting it like you do with one made of metal.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (dKiJG)

295 284 Seems we've disappointed 13 times. I'm heartbroken.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (flINI)


He mocked my pock-marks. Sad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2019 06:37 PM (zBaqJ)

296 Did the jury know the mother was "transing" the boy?

Posted by: MAGA at October 24, 2019 06:37 PM (I5LRE)

297 FYI a joint position statement of the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American College of Osteopathic Pediatricians.

https://tinyurl.com/supporting-trans-children

One quote I find particularly troublesome:

With these disclosure decisions, as in other parts of transition, taking the child's lead is generally the best approach.

*emphasis added

Many Pediatricians have abdicated their responsibility to serve as advocates for children's health by pandering to them.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 24, 2019 06:37 PM (mvenn)

298 I'm really concerned about Rickl. Such a really nice guy.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 24, 2019 06:37 PM (TdMsT)

299 it appears that the jury had sympathy for the wife because the husband was a poseur/fraud."

I'd say screaming nutjob, but that's about take

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:38 PM (6qErC)

300 We won't be able to ignore all the suicides and murder/suicides 40 years from now.
Posted by: clutch cargo at October 24, 2019 06:36 PM (Z1ykJ)

Bro, we pretended ten million Ukrainians didn't exist. A few thousand trannies that don't advance the narrative? We'll bury that shit deeper than King Tut.

Posted by: The New York Times at October 24, 2019 06:38 PM (U7voe)

301 Insomniac you had a good one then. I have had THREE sisters in law that have been to therapy. Two of them took the advice of just let it out no matter who it hurts. And it hurt. it hurt many of us. Things said that should not have been said. Some things you keep to yourself and pray for God's guidance and strength.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:38 PM (dUJdY)

302 John McLaughlin @jmclghln
52% majority says impeachment is political to stop @realDonaldTrump reelection only 36 legal 47-33 say @POTUS shudn't cooperate n 59-33 say it's a waste n Dems need to work w/ Reps to solve nations problems.

Posted by: nasty little shitbag at October 24, 2019 06:39 PM (BqBId)

303 275 FWIW, the Dallas Morning News has quotes from the judge that shed a bit different light...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:32 PM (6qErC)

----------

For example? I'd like to know what she said.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2019 06:39 PM (jUVms)

304 My sister is a therapist. She was telling me this morning about a "swinger" couple who came in and they didn't like her. She said she knew it was going to be a bad fit because she couldn't get past the, "And you did what???" "So they're lesbians? They aren't? So how...?" Not hippy dippy swingy enough. Hard not to giggle.

Then my husband who often gets stuck doing ethics counseling had a guy come in needing a transfer because one of his co workers convinced his wife that HE was swinging with them and so she should. My husband, who still gets embarrassed at "love scenes" is having to go, "So, um, this bothers you too much??"

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 24, 2019 06:39 PM (nRWPy)

305 Hold on - does that mean you're Jewish?

lol.. total opposite. Catholic. Don't know about Ladyl.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:40 PM (dUJdY)

306 @119
you're a little naive. Your 6th grader can be taken across state lines to have an abortion without your permission.

Posted by: artemis at October 24, 2019 06:40 PM (AwPyG)

307 NOID FLAMING SKULL

Posted by: G marks the spot at October 24, 2019 06:40 PM (Fmkqn)

308
Oh joy.

I was making a run up to Allen for our work move, and on the way back I had a blowout in the big rental truck. Now I'm stuck in Mesquite for the next 2 hours waiting on roadside assist. And its pouring rain. Grrrrrr.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 24, 2019 06:40 PM (3W5cQ)

309 Would you really trust a woman this evil to care what a court order says ?

Posted by: jsg at October 24, 2019 06:41 PM (FqkTA)

310 John McLaughlin @jmclghln



I read that and thought he'd finally given up the ghost. Alas and alack.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 24, 2019 06:41 PM (nRWPy)

311 He's broke. Appeals cost 10's of thousands of dollars.

Posted by: strong pimp

A call by the dad's legal counsel in coordination with the Governor's Office and it's liaison to the Texas State Legislature Judicial Committee would solve the issue here without appeal, I would hope.

Unless the Judge gets her back up, then, yeah, an appeal would have to be made, but preventing him from raising public funds for an appeal for a gag order would be pretty hard for her to enforce given the level of attention this has gotten. Judgeship career over, I should think. And its been my experience is that judges really like to be judges - that's why they left private practice and ran for the title in an election in the first place.

Posted by: Boswell at October 24, 2019 06:41 PM (32YRo)

312 For example? I'd like to know what she said.

://tinyurl.com/yymz8bdc

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:41 PM (6qErC)

313 305 Hold on - does that mean you're Jewish?

lol.. total opposite. Catholic. Don't know about Ladyl.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:40 PM (dUJdY)

cbd was getting on people who didn't know what triple parentheses meant in one of the morning threads. (i didn't know about that till he brought it up)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2019 06:41 PM (Kpl3J)

314 Tennessee actually passed a law about this stuff a few years back that essentially shields psychotherapists from having to go along with the patients' self-diagnosis on this tranny stuff, essentially saying that psychotherapists can refuse to take patients that expect them to go along with their psychosis.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 24, 2019 06:42 PM (aktsl)

315 299, she does not look that hot herself metnally from the husband's court filings. Given her macabre intent to carve up the yute and probably traumatize the other beyond belief, I'll take the poseur/layabout/fraud as the more positive outcome.

To some degree, we need to consider bringing back both orphanages and more committals to mental hospitals. However, in these degenerate times, the orphanages would be run by pedos and the mental hospitals by leftist "doctors" who would lock up righties for wrongthink in the best fashion of the late Soviet Union.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:43 PM (MItID)

316 301 Insomniac you had a good one then. I have had THREE sisters in law that have been to therapy. Two of them took the advice of just let it out no matter who it hurts. And it hurt. it hurt many of us. Things said that should not have been said. Some things you keep to yourself and pray for God's guidance and strength.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2019 06:38 PM (dUJdY)

Those were really bad therapists then. Geez.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 24, 2019 06:43 PM (NWiLs)

317 Nood.

Flaming skull.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 24, 2019 06:44 PM (TdMsT)

318 282
Are we just trying to find out whether rickl is still alive? He was quite sick and sinking. It's sad but reasonable that he wouldn't be posting.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 24, 2019 06:34 PM (7OILk)

Oh No, he offered such help when I was going through a tough time.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 24, 2019 06:45 PM (dKiJG)

319 311, the Liberty Counsel or the ACLJ needs to take the lead here. They were the ones that fought for Justine and her parents against the medical community of Boston and the government to restore her parents. They also killed the judge's gag order.

Even if you do not like the father, the child involved will suffer incredible harm which probably will result in an early death.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2019 06:45 PM (MItID)

320 Thank you, Ben Had. I hope there will be someone that is close to Warminster that could contact you or Tami. I remember how concerned he was about his cat when he first learned of his health issues. I can't thank you enough for including us in your search.

Posted by: Ever at October 24, 2019 06:46 PM (ZZDMQ)

321 I'm sure Rickl commented earlier today on a shtf gun.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2019 06:46 PM (87EdW)

322 Except for four years in college I've lived in N.J. My whole life. I know the pluses and the minuses. It's too crowded and the taxes are too high and we generally have nutty leftist Governors and State Government. However, I know the state much better than people who haven't lived here and think they're experts on the state because they flew into Newark Airport and drove up the Turnpike on their way somewhere else a couple of times. You (generalized you) don't like N.J?. That's fine. God bless you. I hope you enjoy the state you live in. Nobody has ever heard me knock another state, because I can't because I've only visited other state and my knowledge would be very limited. I don't think Delaware is a terrible state because the traffic around Rehobeth Beach is as bad as that of N.J>

All I can say is I was brought up here when N.J. was more rural, and I spent time outside fishing and catching frogs. I had good teachers who were kind to a lonely child, I learned how to love reading from a mother who lived here. I met my dear husband here and was married here. I was baptized here, I felt a calling to ministry and was ordained here, I've served in rural areas with beautiful scenery. I've served fine people who love Christ and each other. So I will always be grateful for things that touched my life while here and I hope other people can say the same about the state the live in.

Will I always live here. Probably not, but the "I hate _______ for all states in just a bore.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2019 06:47 PM (WI7YS)

323 The Wifey manages a medical clinic, and just texted to tell me that a "transwoman" is in the waiting room, and waiting to see a doctor for "vaginal discomfort".

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 24, 2019 06:48 PM (kQaRS)

324 The Wifey manages a medical clinic, and just texted to tell me that a "transwoman" is in the waiting room, and waiting to see a doctor for "vaginal discomfort".
Posted by: Stu Podaso



Tell that doctor to shove his fist up it's ass to the elbow.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2019 06:50 PM (3/f2v)

325
He mocked my pock-marks. Sad.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


I wonder if he's referring to Tulsi?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2019 06:52 PM (aKsyK)

326 You're only saying that cuz you're from Jersey.

J/k!
Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 24, 2019 06:35 PM (IwElB)

You're a kind and nice person, Chique.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2019 06:52 PM (WI7YS)

327 321 I'm sure Rickl commented earlier today on a shtf gun.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2019 06:46 PM (87EdW)

What does 'shtf gun' mean?

Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2019 06:54 PM (cF8AT)

328 324 Tell that doctor to shove his fist up it's ass to the elbow.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2019 06:50 PM (3/f2v)

You're nicer than me. I told her to jam a tongue depressor up his dickhole and call it a pap smear.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 24, 2019 07:11 PM (kQaRS)

329 The Save James site is calling this a victory. Dad has 50/50 joint conservator-ship on all issues which is a change. an earlier court (and judge) gave the mother sole conservator-ship over medical decisions. I think other issues like physical custody sharing have not been ruled on yet but this ruling is very encouraging.



I also am not sure there is actually a gag order in place.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at October 24, 2019 07:13 PM (F/KeJ)

330 So, all this "judge" did was give the father permission to watch his own son's suffering in person. And in silence.

Posted by: FretlessT at October 24, 2019 07:19 PM (sGtp+)

331
it appears that the jury had sympathy for the wife because the husband was a poseur/fraud."



I'd say screaming nutjob, but that's about take

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:38 PM (6qErC)

I personally don't care that he lied to his wife about having military experience, etc. That was a civil matter during their divorce and has no bearing on this. He is still the sane parent in this scenario. NOT mentioned in her lawyer's statement on what the jury considered were the false domestic violence charges the mother lodged against the father and which he was acquitted of.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at October 24, 2019 07:28 PM (F/KeJ)

332 Full on bark at the moon crazy, all players need to declare pronouns.

Posted by: Foo, Dawgs at October 24, 2019 07:37 PM (pphpl)

333 For example? I'd like to know what she said.



://tinyurl.com/yymz8bdc

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 24, 2019 06:41 PM (6qErC)

Anon... that article gets many facts of the case wrong. For instance, the article says that the judge's order continues joint custody. That is untrue since an earlier order had transferred sole decision power on medical issues to the mother and specifically denied father the right to take the child to a different psychologist for a second opinion. This decision will actually return true joint custody to the father.

And if the judge said the mother had asked that father retain joint decision making power RE the little boy's transition, she lied. The mother has repeatedly tried to remove not only decision making power but also visitation from the father in court filings that are available online.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at October 24, 2019 07:42 PM (F/KeJ)

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