Etymologies of All the Old-Timey Synonyms For "Whore" Found in the Dungeon Masters Guide "Random Harlot Encounters" Table

From the first edition DMG:

I looked up the etymology of "hussy" in the sidebar and then thought to look up the etymologies of the other words in that infamous City Encounters sub-table.

Here's what I've learned.

N.B.: I might slip in some Gygaxian infras and Cf.s.

"Slovenly Trull

Trull might come from "trollop" or "troll" (see infra) or might come from the French trellier "to hunt."

Hunting for The D? I think so.

Another source says it comes from the German Trulle, which means prostitute. But that, in turn, might just come from "troll" again.

And troll, interestingly enough, might be related to trendle or better yet trundel, which is a wheel or a spindle. Which would make sense when you think about "trolling for fish" while fishing -- maybe the word was originally "trendling" or "trundling," winding your line back to entice fish? Or maybe winding up a fishing net to troll for fish? Which then got shortened to trell or troll?

By the way, the world "sloven" itself is a noun, and can just itself mean an "immoral woman."

late 15c., "immoral woman," later (16c.) also "rascal, knave" (regardless of gender); probably from a continental Germanic source

The roots of sloven are about messiness and untidiness -- and carelessness in dress. Notions that are going to keep popping up in these etymologies.

"Brazen Strumpet"

Strumpet is of uncertain origin, but there are some strong guesses -- but which guess is right, who knows.

One theory connects it with Latin stuprata, fem. past participle of stuprare "have illicit sexual relations with," or Late Latin strupum "dishonor, violation." But evidence for this is wanting and others suggest Middle Dutch strompe "a stocking," or strompen "to stride, to stalk" (as a prostitute might a customer). The major sources don't seem to give much preference to any of these.

Maybe these are all related. Interestingly, "strum" is listed in a 1785 dictionary of vulgar terms:

TO STRUM: to have carnal knowledge of a woman, also to play badly on the harpsichord or any other stringed instrument. [Capt. Francis Grose, "A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1785]

By the way, "brazen" just means "made of brass," and apparently the expression used to be brazen-faced, which I guess meant so unapologetic about one's behavior that no sign of shame showed on one's face.

"Cheap Trollop"

"Cheap" of course comes up in a lot of these words, in the sense of "low-born" of of low character.

Trollop might come from the verb "to troll," which means a bunch of things that might have to do with either being unclean or prostitution. "To troll," as to entice or lure (as trolls on the internet do, into arguments) actually goes back to 1906, and can also mean "to saunter," which is a way that prostitutes trolling for customers sometimes walk.

"Typical Streetwalker"

Streetwalker is so obvious it's barely worth noting -- it's a woman who walks the streets looking for customers. A cheap prostitute.

But interestingly enough, "streetwalker" didn't originally mean "prostitute," it just mean the average citizen who might be walking on the street.

Typical comes from "type," of course. "Type" in the sense of "kind" and "type" in the sense of "letters formed by an impression" both come from a general meaning of typus meaning "kind, sort, form, impression."

"Saucy Tart"

Tart is claimed to come from a shortening of a greeting to an attractive woman -- either "sweetheart" or "jam tart."

"Saucy" just means "impertinent, flippantly bold, cheeky," and just comes from "sauce." I guess the idea is that sauce is spicy and flavorful?

Mikey NTH adds:

86 "Sauce" means to give back-chat, or lip. My grandfather wrote a letter from Santa Claus to my dad and his sister wherein he mentioned that dad had giving his grandmother some sauce.

"Wanton Wench"

Wench was another one that started out perfectly nice, meaning just "young girl" in Middle English.

It comes from the earlier Old English "wencel," meaning "child, servant, slave." Maybe serf or peasant, they mean?

"Wanton" has a more complicated etymology, consisting of wan and the root word which became the "ton."

Wan- used to be a prefix, coming from the Old English meaning "lacking" or "without" and also used interchangeably as a negation like our own un- is used today. (Though apparently the words aren't proven to be related; un- is itself pretty old, but there's gotta be a connection here, I'd think.)

The "ton" part comes from Middle English towen, meaning "discipline."

So wanton altogether used to mean "undisciplined, unruly," which then became "lewd" and poorly brought-up and ill-behaved.

A "wanton" itself is a noun, too, meaning someone who is ill-behaved, etc.

Also, apparently "to wanton" used to be a verb, meaning "to revel, frolic unrestrainedly."

Although it sure seems like "wan" and "wane" must be related to "wan-," the prefix, there's no acknowledged connection.

"Expensive Doxy"

Doxy, my favorite entry on the table, similarly seems to have come first from an attempt to compliment a good-looking woman as a docke, from the Dutch or German for "doll."

"Haughty Courtesan"

Courtesan does, as you might guess, refer to the court, as in "a lady of the court." Apparently this was used in a sarcastic or joking way, or as a euphemism, like the high-fallutin' sounding "Lady of the Night:"

1540s, from Middle French courtisane, from Italian cortigiana "prostitute," literally "woman of the court" (a mock-use or euphemism), fem. of cortigiano "one attached to a court," from corte "court," from Latin cortem (see court (n.)).

"Haughty" means "haught" -- the high sense of oneself -- which comes from the French haut, which just means "high."

"Aged Madam"

Well, I'm sure you can probably guess this, and I'm only guessing it myself, but
Madam must come from "madame of the house," which would be a completely innocent thing to call a housewife, but gets associated with prostitution when the house in question is a brothel.

The etymology of "age" is more interesting, if you're curious.

"Wealthy Procuress"

Procuress is just the female form of procurer, of course.

Procurer means "one who procures things," or one who obtains or gets things. In this context, it means a pimp, who procures customers for prostitutes.

The word procurer comes from the Old French procureor meaning "agent, proxy, or representative." (A pimp is therefore a doxy-proxy.)

That word comes from the Latin/Roman procurator, "an agent representing others in a court of law in countries retaining Roman civil law."

In France, procureur still means "prosecutor" or magistrate or state's representative in matters of justice, and of course our own "prosecutor" comes from the same general Latin roots, though not, apparently, directly from the French.

One might say that this proves that all government ministers are whores, or servants of whores.

"Sly Pimp"

Pimp is of unknown origin. two guesses:

c. 1600, of unknown origin, perhaps from Middle French pimpant "alluring in dress, seductive," present participle of pimper "to dress elegantly" (16c.), from Old French pimpelorer, pipelorer "decorate, color, beautify." Weekley suggests Middle French pimpreneau, defined in Cotgrave [French-English Dictionary, 1611] as "a knave, rascall, varlet, scoundrell," but Liberman is against this.

Wiktionary suggests it might also come from the German Pimpf,, meaning a young boy. Originally the word was "Pumpf," meaning, with full onomatopoeia, "little fart."

"Sly," by the way, is pretty interesting itself. It maybe comes from the idea of being quick and ready to strike with a weapon.

c. 1200, "skillful, clever, dexterous," from Old Norse sloegr "cunning, crafty, sly," from Proto-Germanic *slogis (source also of Low German slu "cunning, sly," German schlau), probably from base *slak- "to strike, hit" (see slay (v.)), with an original notion of "able to hit." Compare German verschlagen "cunning, crafty, sly," schlagfertig "quick-witted," literally "strike-ready," from schlagen "to strike."

"Rich Panderer"

"Pander" just comes from names used in Chaucer and earlier sources:

"arranger of sexual liaisons, one who supplies another with the means of gratifying lust," 1520s, "procurer, pimp," from Middle English Pandare (late 14c.), used by Chaucer ("Troylus and Cryseyde"), who borrowed it from Boccaccio (who had it in Italian form Pandaro in "Filostrato") as name of the prince (Greek Pandaros), who procured the love of Cressida (his niece in Chaucer, his cousin in Boccaccio) for Troilus.

About Pandarus:

In Homer's Iliad he is portrayed as an energetic and powerful warrior, but in medieval literature he becomes a witty and licentious figure who facilitates the affair between Troilus and Cressida.
In Shakespeare's play Troilus and Cressida, he is portrayed as an aged degenerate and coward who ends the play by telling the audience he will bequeath them his "diseases".

That's all of them -- except of course for Harlot, which gives the name to the table.

Harlot comes from the Old French "harlot" or "arlot," meaning vagabond or (right on the nose) tramp. Apparently earlier French had it as "harlot" or "herlot" and it referred to a either a male or female of low birth -- it used to mean "knave" or "rogue" or "cheat" or "rascal."

Hmm. It might have meant "actor."

Used in positive as well as pejorative senses by Chaucer; applied in Middle English to jesters, buffoons, jugglers, later to actors.

Apparently the word was used by the Bible as a euphemism for "whore" and that's how it came to have its more Dungeons and Dragons-ish meaning.

Also:

The word may be Germanic, with an original sense of "camp follower," if the first element is hari "army," as some suspect.

Here are a couple of more that didn't make the DMG chart:

Slut, as many of these words seem to have started, originally meant "untidy woman," and comes from the Old English slutte, which in turn derives from "sloth."

Whore goes back a ways, and seems to have originally meant adulteress:

1530s spelling alteration... of Middle English hore, from Old English hore "prostitute, harlot," from Proto-Germanic *hōran-, fem. *hōrā- (source also of Old Frisian hor "fornication," Old Norse hora "adulteress," Danish hore, Swedish hora, Dutch Hoer, Old High German huora "prostitute"...

Whore itself is perhaps a Germanic euphemism for a word that has not survived. The Old English vowel naturally would have yielded *hoor, which is the pronunciation in some dialects; it might have shifted by influence of Middle English homonym hore "physical filth, slime," also "moral corruption, sin," from Old English hohr.

Apparently the word survived by being one of Shakespeare's favorite words -- he used it 99 times.

Demimondaine wasn't mentioned in the DMG, but they did get at the sense of it by noting that some harlots might only be occasional ones, prostituting themselves out as they choose.

The word demi-monde means literally "half-world," I think getting at the idea of rich, upper-class people living lifestyles often associated with the very poor:

Demi-monde refers to a group of people who live hedonistic lifestyles, usually in a flagrant and conspicuous manner...
The term was often used as one of disapprobation, the behavior of a person in the demimonde being contrary to more traditional or bourgeois values. Such behaviors often included drinking or drug use, gambling, high spending (particularly in pursuit of fashion, as through clothing as well as servants and houses), and sexual promiscuity.

A "demimondaine" is a woman in this set, often a woman of low birth and little money who trades on her looks and often her sexual favors to make her way in highborn society.

Externally, the defining aspects of the demimonde were an extravagant lifestyle of fine food and clothes, often surpassing that of other wealthy women of their day with a steady income of cash and gifts from their various lovers. Internally, their lifestyle was an eclectic mixture of sharp business acumen, social skills, and hedonism. Intelligent demimondaines, like the fictional Gigi's grandmother, would invest their wealth for the day when their beauty faded. Others ended up penniless and starving when age took its toll on their beauty, unless they managed to marry.
A famous beauty was Virginia Oldoini, Countess di Castiglione, who came to Paris in the 1850s with very little money of her own and soon became mistress of Napoleon III; after that relationship ended she moved on to other wealthy men in government, finance and European royalty. She was one of the most aristocratic and exclusive of the demimondaines--reputed to have charged a member of the British aristocracy one million francs for 12 hours in her company.

Finally: the big one.

We're big kids. We can say it.

Prostitution.

Like Billy Blasjowski, I've always felt you can best understand a word if you Break. It. Down.

1520s, "to offer to indiscriminate sexual intercourse (usually in exchange for money)," from Latin prostitutus, past participle of prostituere "to expose to prostitution, expose publicly," from pro "before" (see pro-) + statuere "cause to stand, establish"...

So, to "put it all out for display, right up front, and make something stand."

Billy Blaze was pretty close, really.

If you're not too bored, you can check out where his preferred euphemism for pimp -- "Love Broker" -- came from.

Spoiler: Broker seems to have come from a French word meaning "trader in wine."

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:51 PM

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1 6e5r6u7uh76

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 21, 2019 06:52 PM (Xm5XV)

2
I think it fits.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 21, 2019 06:52 PM (Xm5XV)

3
HOROWITZ!!!! Do you see what waiting for your report has reduced us to?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 21, 2019 06:53 PM (Xm5XV)

4
Okay I'll call nood.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 21, 2019 06:53 PM (Xm5XV)

5 It's funny, becuz D&D was for virgins.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 06:54 PM (oVJmc)

6 In many ways this is the story of Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Max Power at October 21, 2019 06:55 PM (q177U)

7 Two dollah. Two dollah. Long time, Joe.

Posted by: Vietnamese Strumpet at October 21, 2019 06:55 PM (v0R5T)

8 Those sound like Gygax's braindead way of naming levels.

At 10th level, the Whore can become a Madame and start her Brothel.

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 06:55 PM (DuZls)

9 Aged madams know what boys like.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 21, 2019 06:56 PM (q1Pj5)

10 I stopped clicking porn for this

c'mon man

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 06:56 PM (rpxSz)

11 Romney is an expensive doxy

Posted by: CN at October 21, 2019 06:56 PM (U7k5w)

12 OK, I'm down for any etymology thread, but does Dungeon Masters' Guide mean D ampersand D?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 06:56 PM (gd9RK)

13 Oooh. Courtesan--Strumpet's not good enough for you!

Posted by: British Colonel at October 21, 2019 06:57 PM (DuZls)

14 As we know, you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think. But what can we say about Saucy Tart or Wanton Wench?

Posted by: IanDeal at October 21, 2019 06:57 PM (vgGyZ)

15 >>>8 Those sound like Gygax's braindead way of naming levels.

At 10th level, the Whore can become a Madame and start her Brothel.

Yes, exactly, and there can only be 14 Grande Madams in the world at any one time, and if a would-be 15th arises, she must challenge an existing Grande Madam to a weekend brothel-management competition.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 06:58 PM (PbpT7)

16 Silent but deadly.

Posted by: Sly Fart at October 21, 2019 06:58 PM (aKsyK)

17 >>>12 OK, I'm down for any etymology thread, but does Dungeon Masters' Guide mean D ampersand D?

yes, it was the book that the Only Important Ones on That Stage got to use.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 06:58 PM (PbpT7)

18 Aren't these the lyrics from a Jethro Tull song?

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 21, 2019 06:59 PM (Z1ykJ)

19 Oh my! Such language.

I got tingles in my front hole.

Posted by: Pierre derri�re at October 21, 2019 06:59 PM (n9sj8)

20 I prefer brazen strumpets. With icing and raisins.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 21, 2019 06:59 PM (I99aF)

21 Obligatory: Steppenwolf's Jaded Strumpet -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYsGWYIIz4Q

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 06:59 PM (HaL55)

22 So...wanton libidinous trollops.
Or...your typical progressive.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2019 06:59 PM (axyOa)

23 I used to play the strumpet but it made my cheeks hurt.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (v0R5T)

24 >"physical filth, slime," also "moral corruption, sin," from Old English hohr.

Yeah, Romney's a hoor.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (jYnPD)

25 OT the vote to censure Schiff was blocked by Democrats on a straight party line vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (ZLI7S)

26 I grew up as a typical streetwalker but after I attended Harvard, I became a brazen strumpet.

Posted by: Mittens Romney at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (Y4EXg)

27 It is not a coincidence that sexual congress is a euphemism for sex.

I am pretty sure that the founders named congress that in the documents so that the public at large would know who was getting it in the shorts, as it were.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (9GFP4)

28 So in the D&D world, you can only meet a sly pimp.

A thuggish pimp is not possible?

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (DuZls)

29 I ordered sauteed trollops at Stagnaro's last night.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (v0R5T)

30 OT the vote to censure Schiff was blocked by Democrats on a straight party line vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (ZLI7S)
Color me shocked. I hope they all die in a grease fire.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (Z1ykJ)

31 I saw Cheap Trollop open for The Cars, Beacon Theater, Boston, '79

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (1XNk8)

32 Tracy was a hoor!

Posted by: Ralph Cifaretto at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (q1Pj5)

33 25 OT the vote to censure Schiff was blocked by Democrats on a straight party line vote.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (ZLI7S)

Of course it was. They've no problem with a sitting congressman lying in congressional record.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (n9sj8)

34 I ordered sauteed trollops at Stagnaro's last night.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (v0R5T)

I love shellfish.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (Z1ykJ)

35 Now this is information I can use!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (jXrK7)

36 >>>28 So in the D&D world, you can only meet a sly pimp.

A thuggish pimp is not possible?

You could create a sub-sub-table with different possible Pimp encounters.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (PbpT7)

37 Weirdest movie review I ever saw.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (2PXwn)

38 A famous beauty was Virginia Oldoini, Countess di Castiglione, who came to Paris in the 1850s with very little money of her own and soon became mistress of Napoleon III; after that relationship ended she moved on to other wealthy men in government, finance and European royalty. She was one of the most aristocratic and exclusive of the demimondaines--reputed to have charged a member of the British aristocracy one million francs for 12 hours in her company.

----

Well, after she had her ticket punched by Napoleon, IYKWIM, to get in the game, the other guys were easy.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (Y4EXg)

39 I like the phrase slovenly trull because tidy trull just doesn't make it as an insult.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (j0JAA)

40 Is that wench standard or metric?

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (v0R5T)

41 Maybe she'll invite us over for tea and strumpets.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (xPJvm)

42 34
I ordered sauteed trollops at Stagnaro's last night.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (v0R5T)

I love shellfish.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (Z1ykJ)

Typical. Always thinking of your shelf.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 07:02 PM (jYnPD)

43 OT the vote to censure Schiff was blocked by Democrats on a straight party line vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2019 07:00 PM (ZLI7S)
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That's exactly how you make it clear it's not some partisan affair, Nancy!

They deserve the Senate to decline to hear the trial.

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM (DuZls)

44 Is this the remainder of the Romney / Never-Trumpers story that you mentioned earlier?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM (xptlg)

45 Sly Pimps would be a good band name. Dibs.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM (1XNk8)

46 You left out "leman" and "jade."

And what about "slut?"

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM (gYKMg)

47 >>>44 Is this the remainder of the Romney / Never-Trumpers story that you mentioned earlier?

no this was a fun thing I got distracted by

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM (PbpT7)

48 I assume we should expect such diversification within the world's oldest profession.

Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM (ABjxW)

49 What about "wife" or "ex-wife"? Where on the scale is that? Asking for friends.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (6eEQ+)

50 Ace forgot to list "Congresscritter."

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (pPNCa)

51 Of course that vote was blocked as every Democrat is a party puppet.

Wait until if it ever happens a impeachment vote and see if Republicans stand together and with much more at stake.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (ZCEU2)

52 Me: Mr Romney have you met Mike Pence? Shake his hand.
Mitt: My god, are his eyes glowing?
Me: Mitt Romney, Mike Pence. Mike Pence, Mitt Romney
Mitt: what is that crackling sound?
Me: You're gonna love this guy.
Mitt: I smell ozone.
Me: SHAKE HIS GODDAM HAND!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (/LvQJ)

53 What wine pairs with a saucy tart?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (1XNk8)

54 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (Zz0t1)

55 Of course it was. They've no problem with a sitting congressman lying in congressional record.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (n9sj

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He didn't lie. It was parody, don't you know!

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (DuZls)

56 This is why I treasure my copy of the Dungeon Master's Guide. It did more to expand my vocabulary than Roget's did.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (x7K6h)

57 And what about "slut?"

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 21, 2019 07:03 PM

Someone didn't read the content.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (I99aF)

58 31 I saw Cheap Trollop open for The Cars, Beacon Theater, Boston, '79
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:01 PM (1XNk

Was there and she put the grind on the hole house

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (rpxSz)

59 wut

Posted by: m at October 21, 2019 07:05 PM (1vjNQ)

60 good thing about won ton wench: she love you long time.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 21, 2019 07:05 PM (sGtp+)

61 Never mind all those.

Stick with the Dollar Store Meth Whore in the Parking Lot or the always available Trailer Trash Tweaker Chasing your $14 Dollars and a Pack of Smokes.

Both earning it the hard way.

No dice roll necessary.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 21, 2019 07:05 PM (Z+IKu)

62 "Whoremonger" to mean "pimp" was always one of my favorites.
A common cuss word in old England was "whoreson."

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 21, 2019 07:05 PM (gYKMg)

63 Don't OD on doxy.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:06 PM (v0R5T)

64 Never played D&D. There was a group that were trying to get it added to the curriculum as a degree when I was in college. We laughed at them because they all looked as you would expect. Greasy. They bathed in butter and brushed their hair with a pork chop bone.

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 07:06 PM (Zz0t1)

65 I suspect 'sloven' comes from the original word for a Slav, *Sklaven. Cognates: Saqilaba (Arabic), Sklabenoi (Byzantine Greek), Slovenia, [Old Church] Slavonic, Slav, slave, slob.

Much anti-Slavic sentiment spread among the Germans (and among the Arabs).

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 21, 2019 07:06 PM (ykYG2)

66 What wine pairs with a saucy tart?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:04 PM (1XNk

MD 20/20

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 21, 2019 07:06 PM (q1Pj5)

67 Sitting on a park bench!

Posted by: Jethro Trull at October 21, 2019 07:06 PM (DuZls)

68 Holy Wall of Text, Lord Spades.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 21, 2019 07:07 PM (u82oZ)

69 More obligatory: TR's Onomatopoeia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN-pnU8hGSw

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 07:07 PM (HaL55)

70 slutte

That has a certain je ne say qwah.

I thinke I shalle starte spellyng slutte that way.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:07 PM (1XNk8)

71 Which one do you get when you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park?

Asking for a former political consultant.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 21, 2019 07:07 PM (DMUuz)

72 Talk about sloppy - err people - read an article about the truth concerning that Russian nuclear reactor explosion - they actually tested a nuclear powered missile that feel into the sea that was left there a year - then exploded when they went to grab it.

I have seen Russian hardware and engineering up close at sea - it is shit, double shit, bad. And that was in the 80's when the Rooskies were throwing a lot a money into their hardware. It still sucked. So having them testing flying retarded rust buckets around eastern Europe is pretty unsettling.

Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2019 07:07 PM (32YRo)

73 Romney is an ~~expensive doxy~~ cheesy little catamite.

Posted by: CN at October 21, 2019 06:56 PM (U7k5w)

FIFY

Posted by: naturalfake at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (XCfh1)

74 Doppelgangers ran the BEST brothels, when they figured out the human form.

https://www.oglaf.com/freshhorses/

(Not even remotely SFW.)

Posted by: Paolo del Toro at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (pPQeR)

75 #57 I confess, I merely skimmed as is my wont.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (gYKMg)

76 good thing about won ton wench: she love you long time.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 21, 2019 07:05 PM (sGtp+)

Less long time if you are a meat eater. More long time if you are a vegetarian.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (q1Pj5)

77 Let's not forget the Catch-22 that doctors have to treat these lunatics for conditions their imagined bodies could get but their real bodies could not AND will be punished for not identifying issues their real bodies can have but their imagined bodies cannot.

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Speaking of healthcare, didja see that Paleface Speaks With Forked Tongue released how she's going to spend her $2.7 trillion in new taxes and still won't tell us how she'll fund free Medicare for all?

NEWS: Elizabeth Warren has now completely allocated the $2.75 trillion in expected revenue from proposed wealth tax.

-$1.25T: higher ed (tuition-free college, debt cancelation, more)
-$700B: universal childcare
-$800B: k-12 education, announced today

https://bit.ly/35VQeWG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (+y/Ru)

78 No Brazen Hussy, though. I'll be darned.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (sIyWR)

79 ..eyeing little girls with bad intent...

Posted by: Ret. Sen. Hairy Reid at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (1XNk8)

80 Mitt Romney is a craigslist bottom.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (I99aF)

81 They missed The bearded ones: Jonah, & Steve.

Posted by: Sooey Jen Heiress at October 21, 2019 07:08 PM (Bf3hj)

82 I like cheeky girls. And I cannot lie. Well, I can, but mainly only on camera.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (ykYG2)

83 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ACE IS TRYING TO TEACH YOU GUYS SOMETHING AND YOU'RE JUST MAKING DUMB JOKES.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISFURBURGER at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (v0R5T)

84 Which ones have the largest breasts?

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (RUnSJ)

85 In other words: Ho

( KISS principle )

Posted by: Hands at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (786Ro)

86 "Sauce" means to give back-chat, or lip. My grandfather wrote a letter from Santa Claus to my dad and his sister wherein he mentioned that dad had giving his grandmother some sauce. My dad, of course denies this because the old woman was not one to put up with that and a-whacking would have ensued.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Fall In To Frantic Frenzies at The Outrage Outlet! at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (3tDBG)

87 ACE: We need another Dungeons and Dragons Guide to the Democrat candidates! 2020 edition! :-)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (ujg0T)

88 My, this post was a mouthful.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at October 21, 2019 07:10 PM (EgshT)

89 The Smart Tabletop RPG Etymology Blog

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at October 21, 2019 07:10 PM (QcbCo)

90 Is Gygaxian even a word? Well, it is now, so I shall hereby use it.

Extra Credit: What parts would be Arnesonian?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at October 21, 2019 07:11 PM (xptlg)

91 Mitt Rombley should spend more time paying his taxes, releasing those women from the binders and getting that dog off the roof, and less time fooling around online.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:11 PM (1XNk8)

92 No trollops??

Posted by: andycanuck at October 21, 2019 07:11 PM (Dh1wo)

93 Thou poxy slattern! Step away! Forthwith!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 21, 2019 07:11 PM (xPJvm)

94 TO STRUM: to have carnal knowledge of a woman, also to play badly on the harpsichord or any other stringed instrument. [Capt. Francis Grose, "A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1785]

The Paolo, he plays badly on this harpsichord.

Posted by: Hands at October 21, 2019 07:11 PM (786Ro)

95 When i was about five, my dad brought out one of his Dallas women to the farm where I grew up

It was the first time I heard the term Nafke

my granny didn't care for the woman

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:12 PM (rpxSz)

96 83
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ACE IS TRYING TO TEACH YOU GUYS SOMETHING AND YOU'RE JUST MAKING DUMB JOKES.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISFURBURGER at October 21, 2019 07:09 PM (v0R5T)

So another day ending in "y".

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Fall In To Frantic Frenzies at The Outrage Outlet! at October 21, 2019 07:12 PM (3tDBG)

97 "Haughty" means "haught" -- the high sense of oneself -- which comes from the French haut, which just means "high."

May or may not come from haut, as high also relates to hoch (German). All the languages swam around in a linguistic soup, but I have a fixation on the silent gh's in English and their German counterparts.

Night - Nacht
Eight - acht
Freight - Fracht
Slaughter - Schlacht
High - hoch

usw.

German has a great word, Tussi, which is kind of broad, side-girl, crass for girlfriend, something. It's really just Tussi. I call my fishing partner my Tussi.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 07:12 PM (gd9RK)

98 Strumpets with bullseye tramp stamps. Hot, damn.

Posted by: Matt Plauer at October 21, 2019 07:12 PM (EgshT)

99 84 Which ones have the largest breasts?

Aged Madam, but their around her waist.

Expensive Doxy's a better bet.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:12 PM (1XNk8)

100 "brazen faced"

I know people who regularly say "he had a lot of brass on his face" in reference to someone blatantly lying.

Interesting.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 21, 2019 07:13 PM (sWM8x)

101 *they're*

stupid auto-cucumber.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:13 PM (1XNk8)

102
Speaking of healthcare, didja see that Paleface Speaks With Forked Tongue released how she's going to spend her $2.7 trillion in new taxes and still won't tell us how she'll fund free Medicare for all?

With the specially minted $2.7 trillion dollar coin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 07:13 PM (7rVsF)

103 I like saucy tart - I might have that on my headstone - herein lies a saucy tart

Posted by: IC at October 21, 2019 07:13 PM (a0IVu)

104 Jumping around all these thread this afternoon keep forgetting which is most current

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 07:13 PM (ZCEU2)

105 At 6th level, the Harlot earns a Deathly Leg Grapple skill.

Posted by: Adult DD at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (DuZls)

106 Random harlot encounters. Or as I refer to it, my single years.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (0W3mK)

107 "Bawd" was common usage.

Posted by: mrp at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (Pqytn)

108 Mitt was found pouring a little sauce on his tart...en flegranti delicto.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (axyOa)

109 I just stick with Slag, it's such a fitting word

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (b7EdA)

110 Tone, let me tell you one thing

I need fifty dollar to make you holler

I get paid to do the Wild Thing!

Say what? Hasta la Vista, baby!

Posted by: Tone Loc at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (q1Pj5)

111 But if we didn't make dumb jokes when Ace is trying to teach us something, he'd think there was something wrong with us.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (1XNk8)

112 slutte

That has a certain je ne say qwah.

I thinke I shalle starte spellyng slutte that way.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:07 PM (1XNk

Like I think the word 'cunt' should have an umlaut in it and be pronounced cuunt. So much more elegant and pushy.

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (Zz0t1)

113 Tabletop, desktop, haybaletop...

Evenin', rons and ettes!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (Dc2NZ)

114 84 Which ones have the largest breasts?

Aged Madam, but their around her waist.

Expensive Doxy's a better bet.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:12 PM (1XNk

.........

So, Pelosi or AOC?

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM (v0R5T)

115 there can only be 14 Grande Madams in the world at any one time, and if a would-be 15th arises, she must challenge an existing Grande Madam to a weekend brothel-management competition.

You laugh, but the whole reason for this chart was almost certainly because Gygax and Arneson got loaded one night in the mid/late 1970s - it's always about the 70s - and charted out a level-progression for ho's.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (ykYG2)

116 "Love Brokers"

Posted by: Hands at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (786Ro)

117 >>IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ACE IS TRYING TO TEACH YOU GUYS SOMETHING AND YOU'RE JUST MAKING DUMB JOKES.

We have an agreement. We don't read the posts and he doesn't read the comments.

To do otherwise would upset the subtle balance of life.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (ZLI7S)

118 /soc

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (ykYG2)

119 Mitt was found pouring a little sauce on his tart...en flegranti delicto.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2019 07:14 PM

Mitt, et al; sauceboxes, the lot of them.

Posted by: Bert G at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (OMsf+)

120 This is why I treasure my copy of the Dungeon Master's Guide. It did more to expand my vocabulary than Roget's did.

Never played or been interested in it, but that's a fairly good list of those wurd thingys.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (HaL55)

121

Why isn't "Haughty Amazon Bitch" on the list?

I heard it used on "Xena", so it has to be authentic.

Posted by: Arbalest at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (FlRtG)

122 I never realized there were so many highsclass words to describe our enemies on the left. Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (UUkQp)

123 "Slut, as many of these words seem to have started, originally meant 'untidy woman,' and comes from the Old English slutte, which in turn derives from 'sloth.'"

Sloths are my Spirit Animal.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (t+qrx)

124 I'm betting that...4, 6, 8 & 9 are most likely to have their own PornHub categories.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:15 PM (1XNk8)

125 During a chat with a young woman in Germany years ago, she described a phrase in German, translated to Hanky Panky, that was derived from a French expression translated to "come into my tent". She indicated it persisted since Napoleon invaded. I have not been able to learn the actual expression. Several Germans and ex-pats in Germany disavowed any knowledge of it.

Posted by: lurking grandma at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (sujqA)

126 I just wanted to use "saucebox" in a sentence. Carry on.

Posted by: Bert G at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (OMsf+)

127 I have always preferred Skank. Covers occupation and disease.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (7qG7O)

128 Where does royal consort fall in this etymology?

Posted by: Sock Monkey....watching the world insert it's proverbial head up it's proverbial ass at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (XD+JK)

129 Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders
Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country. People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset.

-
What did you expect from a guy who honeymooned in beautiful Soviet Union?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (+y/Ru)

130 Wealthy Procuress

** shifty eyes **

Posted by: Ghislaine Maxwell at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (786Ro)

131 I always gravitated towards Nafkes

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (rpxSz)

132 Mama's got a saucebox she wears on her chest

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (1XNk8)

133 Several Germans and ex-pats in Germany disavowed any knowledge of it.
Posted by: lurking grandma at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (sujqA)

We have a German teacher right here in this thread.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (t+qrx)

134 I never realized there were so many highsclass words to describe our enemies on the left. Thanks, Ace!
Posted by: Eromero

****

No shit!!!

We be smarter now!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (axyOa)

135 With the specially minted $2.7 trillion dollar coin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 07:13 PM

It's the one with the Indian head eagle.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (0W3mK)

136 I think it's hilarious that Blonde Morticia got the trifecta on this particular thred.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (PkVlr)

137 What did you expect from a guy who honeymooned in beautiful Soviet Union?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (+y/Ru)
---
Well at least he put the idea out there that Hillary was wrong.

We'll see if they can just dismiss Bernie. If they can't, then Hillary sounds like a "conspiracy theorist", right?

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (DuZls)

138 Let's not forget "bawd" and "floozy."

I think Bawd and Floozy was a vaudevillian comedy duo. Not to be confused with Doxy and Tramp, an early sitcom starring Carol Channing and Audrey Meadows.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (gYKMg)

139 hogmartin, the cats gave you a reprieve, Huh?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (7qG7O)

140 Growing up in my neighborhood, you were most likely to hear "putana."

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (1XNk8)

141 My senators are Markey and Warren

shoulda went to church

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (rpxSz)

142 See, look how much you can at this here intelligent whore place!

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 07:19 PM (GbPPJ)

143 nood for political stuff but you can comment here too if you like

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:19 PM (PbpT7)

144 Aren't these the lyrics from a Jethro Tull song?

Posted by: clutch cargo

---

"Big-bottled fraulein, put your weight on me," said the Pig-Me to the whore, desperate for more...

Posted by: RKae at October 21, 2019 07:19 PM (DQebX)

145 Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders
Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country. People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset.

-
What did you expect from a guy who honeymooned in beautiful Soviet Union?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (+y/Ru)

***

Yup. Pretty much seals it right there.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2019 07:19 PM (axyOa)

146 Mama's got a saucebox she wears on her chest
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM

Daddy never sleeps at night

Posted by: Roger Daltrey at October 21, 2019 07:19 PM (786Ro)

147 learn, learn fingers. Put all the words in there.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 07:19 PM (GbPPJ)

148 I knew a saucy tart in high school. Met a cheap trollop in college.

Met a wanton wench in my adult life.

Finally divorced that Aged Madam when it was clear she'd never change.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 07:20 PM (a2rm/)

149 >>>138 Let's not forget "bawd" and "floozy."

i noticed bawd when I was going through this. Forgot about floozy.

I've looked up the etymology of "chippie" before but I forget it. I think it's another one of those that went from neutral to meaning a dirty dirty hoor.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:20 PM (PbpT7)

150 hogmartin, the cats gave you a reprieve, Huh?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2019 07:18 PM (7qG7O)

Not exactly, they just stopped walking on the keyboard for the time being.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 21, 2019 07:20 PM (t+qrx)

151 N00d.

Literal n00d.

Do not say I didn't warn you.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 21, 2019 07:20 PM (9GFP4)

152 Growing up in my neighborhood, you were most likely to hear "putana."

There's a constant play on words going around in my head involving putain, Petain, and Putin, but it never works out into an actual joke.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 07:20 PM (gd9RK)

153 Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders
Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country. People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset.

-
What did you expect from a guy who honeymooned in beautiful Soviet Union?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (+y/Ru)

Please tell me someone twatted back "Unlike you."

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 07:20 PM (Zz0t1)

154 The big bosomed lady with the Dutch accent tried to change my point of view.

Posted by: Rod Stewart at October 21, 2019 07:21 PM (q1Pj5)

155
"Power without responsibility - the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages." - Stanley Baldwin

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 07:21 PM (7rVsF)

156 What do you call three chinese whores in a hot tub ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:22 PM (rpxSz)

157 Growing up in my neighborhood, you were most likely to hear "putana."
...........

Spanish for politician?

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:22 PM (v0R5T)

158 >>156 What do you call three chinese whores in a hot tub ?

Happy Family

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:23 PM (PbpT7)

159 When Wench follows bacon, it is an accolade.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2019 07:23 PM (7qG7O)

160 What do you call three chinese whores in a hot tub ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:22 PM (rpxSz)
........

Folliculitis.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:23 PM (v0R5T)

161 There's a baud joke somewhere, too.

Ace, why did you give up on an etymology thread so fast?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 07:23 PM (gd9RK)

162 133 Several Germans and ex-pats in Germany disavowed any knowledge of it.
Posted by: lurking grandma at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (sujqA)

We have a German teacher right here in this thread.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 21, 2019 07:17 PM (t+qrx)

We might need a French teacher for that.

Posted by: m at October 21, 2019 07:24 PM (1vjNQ)

163 156 What do you call three chinese whores in a hot tub ?
Posted by: REDACTED

Vely crean radies?

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 21, 2019 07:24 PM (gYKMg)

164 >>>Ace, why did you give up on an etymology thread so fast?

I didn't think it was playing the way I'd hoped.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

165 What do you call three chinese whores in a hot tub ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 07:22 PM (rpxSz)
........

Six dollars.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2019 07:25 PM (v0R5T)

166 Never played D&D. There was a group that were trying to get it added to the curriculum as a degree when I was in college. We laughed at them because they all looked as you would expect. Greasy. They bathed in butter and brushed their hair with a pork chop bone.
Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 07:06 PM (Zz0t1)

Sadly, a D&D degree these days would be more respectable than nearly all liberal arts degrees. Need to be somewhat creative, think on your feet, use some imagination, describe what's in your mind to others....

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 07:25 PM (FTPn0)

167 and the post BEFORE this one was a blow-off (posted just to give me time to finish this one) so if this one wasn't grabbing people, then that's two bad posts in a row.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

168 Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders
Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country. People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset.
-
What did you expect from a guy who honeymooned in beautiful Soviet Union?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 21, 2019 07:16 PM (+y/Ru)

Hillary, I served with Soviet agents. I knew Soviet agents. Soviet agents were friends of mine. Hillary, Tulsi is no Soviet agent.

Posted by: Old and Smelly Bernie Sanders at October 21, 2019 07:26 PM (Z+IKu)

169 Fine. I haven't been a very good Hordeling lately anyway so I'll just keep my sulking mostly to myself.

*hits speeddial for alexthechick*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 07:27 PM (gd9RK)

170 167 and the post BEFORE this one was a blow-off (posted just to give me time to finish this one) so if this one wasn't grabbing people, then that's two bad posts in a row.
Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

There's no such thing as a bad post. There's only bad commenters.
Dirty, dirty commenters.

Posted by: m at October 21, 2019 07:28 PM (1vjNQ)

171 >>>There's no such thing as a bad post. There's only bad commenters.
Dirty, dirty commenters.

I just got the sense that people weren't really interested, which is fine. Maybe I'll repost it on the weekend or something.

The idea of the post seemed funnier in my head than it wound up being on the page.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:30 PM (PbpT7)

172 Well, I just called everyone in the new thread assholes for not liking this thread enough.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 07:30 PM (gd9RK)

173 Good stuff, Mr. O'Spades !

really enjoyable read.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 21, 2019 07:31 PM (bwo3w)

174 >>>172 Well, I just called everyone in the new thread assholes for not liking this thread enough.

nah, it's just very niche. It's the venn overlap between two niches, D and D fans and etymology fans.

Not a big group.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:31 PM (PbpT7)

175 The T is silent, as in Harlow.

Posted by: Margot Asquith at October 21, 2019 07:31 PM (DYSh2)

176 >>>173 Good stuff, Mr. O'Spades !

really enjoyable read.

...

thanks!

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:32 PM (PbpT7)

177 The idea of the post seemed funnier in my head than it wound up being on the page.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:30 PM (PbpT7)

Pretty much sums up every comment I make.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 21, 2019 07:32 PM (xPJvm)

178 In DnD what would be the point in rolling for a type of Harlot? Information? Honeypot? Be her pimp? Building a personal harem? Ect?
Serious question? Or do you create the story as you play/roll?

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 21, 2019 07:33 PM (RUnSJ)

179 >>>Pretty much sums up every comment I make.

yup, me too

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2019 07:38 PM (PbpT7)

180 The German sabres used for honour duelling to get scars on one's face on purpose are/were called Schlager that I only learned from the Flashman novel, Royal Flash.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 21, 2019 07:39 PM (Dh1wo)

181 Yes, I finally got my illusionist/monk laid. He rolled 00.
The DM broke out the "special table"
Don't ask.

Posted by: rayj at October 21, 2019 07:40 PM (qyUzy)

182 In DnD what would be the point in rolling for a type of Harlot? ... Or do you create the story as you play/roll?

First, I just have to say, screw story. But mainly this is from a list of interesting encounters your fantasy heroes might have in a city. So the DM would go with whatever type to decide how to present the encounter.

It might result in a robbery attempt, or in a request for aid against some villain, which may or may not even be legitimate. Gygax was heavily inspired by Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd series, where the adventure might start for any number of otherwise normal reasons, and just get progressively weirder.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 21, 2019 07:41 PM (2lndx)

183 Speaking of, Tulsi is already back-tracking on her previous bravdo. Now, Democrats must come togrther in love to defeat you bigots and haters.

Major Hula-Tan is a two-bit fraud.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 21, 2019 07:45 PM (Ndje9)

184 First Edition best edition.

Posted by: PixyMisa at October 21, 2019 07:48 PM (2yngH)

185 Interesting. Thanks for the learning!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 21, 2019 07:49 PM (l9m7l)

186 The German sabres used for honour duelling to get scars on one's face on purpose are/were called Schlager that I only learned from the Flashman novel, Royal Flash.

Schlager is a general word for hitter, beater, whacker thingy. A baseball bat is also a Schlager. (A hit record is a Schlager, too. German economizes on words).

A Schlagende Burschenschaft was a duelling fraternity in which you had to get a duelling scar to become a brother. (the "-end" suffix means "-ing", like "-ant" as in rampant).

Zeug is a general word for stuff, thing, whatsis. I had student say "Schlagzeuger is drummer? You mean the word for drummer is Thing Beater?" He was sold on German right there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 07:49 PM (gd9RK)

187 When I first Binged 'schlager', Bander, to check the spelling before adding 'sabre' to my search terms, all hte top references were for music. I guess that explains that!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 21, 2019 07:51 PM (Dh1wo)

188 There's only one Schlonger fraternity and I'm the chapter president forever!

Posted by: The God-Emperor at October 21, 2019 07:57 PM (DYSh2)

189 Major Hula-Tan is a two-bit fraud.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 21, 2019 07:45 PM (Ndje9)

We already knew that from the "D" next to her name.

Regardless, I'd still like to do her up the wrong 'un.

Posted by: Robert at October 21, 2019 07:58 PM (4voYv)

190 And in Vienna whipped cream on your coffee is " . . . mit Schlag."

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 21, 2019 07:58 PM (DYSh2)

191 The DM broke out the "special table"
Don't ask.
Posted by: rayj at October 21, 2019 07:40 PM (qyUzy)

What's the special table?

Posted by: Robert at October 21, 2019 08:00 PM (4voYv)

192 And in Vienna whipped cream on your coffee is " . . . mit Schlag."

Yup. Schlagsahne, beaten cream.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2019 08:01 PM (gd9RK)

193 This has the feel of an early-21st-century AoS post, and I approve. Not that I have any problem with the contemporary late-mid-early-21st-century AoS posts.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at October 21, 2019 08:28 PM (V38Xw)

194 This is quite possibly the greatest post in Internet history and it has only 193 comments.

It's like I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 21, 2019 08:33 PM (g7BLK)

195 Late getting here, that was a fun thread

Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2019 08:45 PM (BEjc7)

196 In DnD what would be the point in rolling for a type of Harlot? Information? Honeypot? Be her pimp? Building a personal harem? Ect?
Serious question? Or do you create the story as you play/roll?
Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 21, 2019 07:33 PM (RUnSJ)

The DM has a framework for the story pre-made, hopefully. The players work through it using their characters, using the idea of the character they are playing to change their thoughts. So in this part of the guide the players are trying to get information from a harlot, and the names/status and percentages of have info/looking for reward/work with thief are guides to the DM on what the NPC harlot's reactions/plans are.

It is unlikely that the goal would be to have sex, since D&D ers are on the unsocial side of the spectrum and it would take valuable time away from the action/loot parts of the scenario. If you tried you'd probably just have to save versus getting rolled or catching the clap without much description.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 08:49 PM (FTPn0)

197 First Edition best edition.
Posted by: PixyMisa at October 21, 2019 07:48 PM (2yngH)

They did vanilla-ize it up in AD&D. I haven't looked at the newer rulebooks since then, that was 35 years or so ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 08:50 PM (FTPn0)

198 I always thought doxy came from woman who hangs around the docks. Dickens used it in David Copperfield, and that was when I researched and got that etymology, and that always seems to apply to the context I see it, mostly movies and lit. from victorian london, where there are a lot of docks and it would apply well.

I think some words can have a reverse branching etymology, where there may be an early origin but it comes into common use due to a secondary (sometimes imagined) origin. This would be one of those words where maybe it does come from German, but I bet most people using it in the 1800s were associating it with women living and working around the docks.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 21, 2019 08:54 PM (LWu6U)

199 The DM has a framework for the story pre-made, hopefully.

Not if the DM is rolling on this chart. Random encounter rolls are specifically for things the DM doesn't have planned. It is why I've come to see random encounters as critical to RPGs. They drive a stake through the notion that the DM should have anything to do with controlling a story at all.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 21, 2019 08:58 PM (2lndx)

200 So Dickens did not use it in Copperfield. I was thinking of Twist, chapter where he is working in a coffin workshop but he didn't use it there either. Not sure where I first heard it but it was long ago.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 21, 2019 09:13 PM (LWu6U)

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Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Angry at the NL Central harlots Cards and Brewers at October 21, 2019 09:16 PM (ufFY8)

202 The "harlot" table is part of the random monster encounters table of appendex C in the DMG (1e).
Part of the problem in games such as DD is that the adventure material (or module) is either too constraining, allowing for no player agency, or too open and the players end up wishing they had a direction.

One of Gygax's answers to this conundrum was in the appendices of that book. He created rules and tables have the adventurers face random encounters generated randomly on the spot. There were tables for city/town encounters. Roll the dice and consult the table.

Thus, the DM could send the players through a city adventure full of various encounters, from actual monsters such as giant rats or a vampire, or a human encounter such as a merchant, a bandit, or, indeed, a harlot. The DM could do this without any preparation at all, and just create the adventure on the fly using the tables in the DMG.
Tabletop RPGs haven't taken this approach since then, but many gamers still consider it of interest.
Computer RPGs have taken this "random encounter" concept to the max. It is what they do all the time.

And now you know.

Posted by: Onlooker at October 21, 2019 09:26 PM (5rmY3)

203 Computer RPGs have taken this "random encounter" concept to the max. It is what they do all the time.

And now you know.
Posted by: Onlooker at October 21, 2019 09:26 PM (5rmY3)

Reality has caught on to the "random NPC encounter" mechanic too.

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