Tom Cotton to IC IG: Your Evasiveness On Whether You Backdated Changes to the Whistleblower Process Borders on Criminal Obstruction

They changed the reporting requirements, then back-dated them by a month to make them seem like they'd been in force... well, for all of a month. But I guess that looks better than having them changed on the day of the fake "whistleblower's" Schiffty complaint.

Sean Davis previously reported:

In tense testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) on Friday, the inspector general for federal spy agencies refused to disclose why his office backdated secret changes to key whistleblower forms and rules in the wake of an anti-Trump whistleblower complaint filed in August, sources told The Federalist.
...
Michael Atkinson, the intelligence community inspector general, told HPSCI lawmakers during a committee oversight hearing on Friday that the whistleblower forms and rules changes were made in September, even though the new forms and guidance, which were not uploaded to the ICIG’s website until September 24, state that they were changed in August. Despite having a full week to come up with explanations for his office’s decisions to secretly change its forms to eliminate the requirement for first-hand evidence and to backdate those changes to August, Atkinson refused to provide any explanation to lawmakers baffled by his behavior.

Now Senator Tom Cotton accuses Atkinson of obstruction and demands answers about whether Atkinson leaked the Fake "Whistelblower's" Democrat ties to the House Intelligence Committee while refusing to share the same information with the Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

And he also wants to know if Atkinson was the source for Jake Tapper's false claim (made "without evidence") that the only "indicia of political bias" was that the fake whistleblower was a registered Democrat:

"Your disappointing testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee on September 26 was evasive to the point of being insolent and obstructive," Cotton, a Republican member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), wrote on Wednesday.
Cotton said Atkinson refused to disclose to SSCI members why Atkinson initially determined the anti-Trump complainant had a partisan political bias against Trump.
"Despite repeated questions, you refused to explain what you meant in your written report by 'indicia of an arguable political bias on the part of a rival political candidate,'" Cotton wrote. "This information is, of course, unclassified and we were meeting in a closed setting. Yet you moralized about how you were duty bound not to share even a hint of this political bias with us."
"But now I see media reports that you revealed to the House Intelligence Committee not only that the complainant is a registered Democrat, but also that he has a professional relationship with a Democratic presidential campaign," Cotton continued. "I'm dissatisfied, to put it mildly, with your refusal to answer my questions, while more fully briefing the three-ring circus that the House Intelligence Committee has become."

By the way, the Fake Whistleblower's lawyer Mark Zaid denies political bias, but in a very lawyerly way:

Lawyers for whistleblower reject claims of political bias. https://t.co/Oy3pjAxs4U pic.twitter.com/PGadpnuQit
— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) October 9, 2019

Note the allegation is that this person has worked for/with a Democrat candidate.

Zaid says the guy never worked for a "political candidate, campaign, or party."

Well the thing is -- a sharp-minded friend of mine observes -- that a sitting Vice President is not a political candidate.

His read on this is that Zaid is pretty much telling us the whistleblower is a CIA agent formerly detailed to Vice President Joe Biden's national security staff.

Which might also explain why he was "visibly shaken" at the thought that his boss' actions, which might include some of his own actions, were going to be investigated.

Just speculation. But it reads as plausible to me.

By the way: Be careful what you say to Mark Zaid on twitter.

If he doesn't like it, he'll blackmail you. He'll threaten to reveal information about you that you don't want revealed unless you forgo your right to speak.

That is blackmail. You can release information about someone, and you can tell someone to do something, but you can't threaten to release information about someone unless they do something or forgo doing something.

It's the definition of the crime. Blackmail is telling someone you will release damaging information unless they do something or forgo doing something they have a right to do.

Mark Zaid should know that.

But maybe he just doesn't care, and figures that no one's going to prosecute a well-connected lawyer over a little blackmail and extortion.

Hey "Rex", why don't you reveal your identity instead of attacking someone while hiding? I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life. We can compare notes on our research efforts. What do you say? Game?
— Mark S. Zaid (@MarkSZaidEsq) May 27, 2018

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:20 PM

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1 Eleventh

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2019 06:23 PM (uEbPt)

2 That was a callback

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2019 06:23 PM (uEbPt)

3 see how dumb the left is? "oh we have the House. I forgot who owns the Senate. Does that matter?"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 06:23 PM (FEQY4)

4 Damn them all to Hell if this is true. There better be jail time involved.

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2019 06:24 PM (gmo/4)

5 Wow in early.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 09, 2019 06:24 PM (pw+jk)

6 Graham said he'll call Volker to testify if Schiff doesn't release the transcripts.

Posted by: Ha at October 09, 2019 06:24 PM (pH6td)

7 top 10!

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2019 06:24 PM (gmo/4)

8 Clowns

Posted by: bane at October 09, 2019 06:24 PM (ransv)

9 it's as if the batshit insane leftwing looney bin, headlined by the Squad and Schiff forgot that the Senate can investigate stuff too.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 06:24 PM (FEQY4)

10
Can IG's be fired? Look what Obama did to Gerald Walpin, and that was persecution for doing a real investigation about a real crime that Obama was knee deep in, IIRC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2019 06:25 PM (zBaqJ)

11 "what they can find about your life"

Yeah, that's blackmail.

Posted by: the LSD at October 09, 2019 06:26 PM (ykYG2)

12 To be fair, the House Bank used to let them do all kinds of things.

Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2019 06:26 PM (F39r6)

13 1. Boil tar
2. Pour hot tar over subject
3. Cover in feathers
4. Touch torch to feathers

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2019 06:27 PM (gmo/4)

14 I love this blog! Between politics and KFC and anal, I have added bugfuck insane to my profanity collection. If you're around Ace, thanks!

Posted by: jmel at October 09, 2019 06:27 PM (OeWgo)

15 I'll fetch the others

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 06:28 PM (gPZ9i)

16 @MarkSZaidEsq
...I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life...

On exhibit: Two. Sets. Of. Rules.

Posted by: Hands at October 09, 2019 06:28 PM (786Ro)

17 The problem is, of course, that Tom Cotton has basically zero authority as long as Hillary's filth run the Congress.

Posted by: JEM at October 09, 2019 06:29 PM (8erNz)

18 Can IG's be fired?

In some circumstances, yes:
1 ) If POTUS is a Democrat
2 ) If IG is GOP
3 ) If IG is wildly cantankerous

Posted by: Hands at October 09, 2019 06:30 PM (786Ro)

19 482 No. Ace "rides" a Vespa. Briefly.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 09, 2019 06:26 PM (uDh3k)

I keep seeing that scene in The Commitments when Joey the Lips, in his big helmet, is trying to dismount his scooter in the alley and it goes all ape-shit on him.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2019 06:28 PM (xPJvm)

(Stubbornly lugged upstairs, because willowed.)

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2019 06:30 PM (xPJvm)

20 "Michael Atkinson, the deep state inspector general..."

FIFY

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 09, 2019 06:30 PM (UYvk0)

21 Not a single person will pay a price for ANY of this perfidy. No one.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 09, 2019 06:30 PM (flINI)

22 his lawyer-speak is a tell.

Posted by: trapper's girl at October 09, 2019 06:30 PM (s5yKc)

23 I still would like to know how an IG can change evidentiary and legal standards on his own authority without it going through a process to determine among other things the massive monetary impact such changes would make?

All of these bastards need to burn.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 06:31 PM (DG/Oc)

24 Cotton/Crenshaw 2024?

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2019 06:31 PM (UUkQp)

25 If only a honest MSM was around, most Americans will never know this.

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2019 06:31 PM (ZCEU2)

26 Zaid, you silly bastard. It's the shot you don't see coming that gets you. All intimidating your critics does is make that killshot (to your reputation) arrive more quickly.

I do believe that most CIA and FBI officials basically act as Stasi goons to a low level lawyer. One reason they're about as popular as the KGB.

Posted by: trev006 at October 09, 2019 06:31 PM (dHvRD)

27 I got nooded. Cards up 13-0. OWIE OWIE OWIE.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at October 09, 2019 06:31 PM (IttZ7)

28 13 1. Boil tar
2. Pour hot tar over subject
3. Cover in feathers
4. Touch torch to feathers
Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2019 06:27 PM (gmo/4)

5. straighten coathanger
6. run thru weenie
7. hold open bun over burning flesh
8. TADA deliciousness

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:32 PM (JFO2v)

29 These people are lower than the lowest thing that is or can me.

Can any of our lurking scientists help me out with what that might be?

Posted by: Doctor Deplorable at October 09, 2019 06:32 PM (YIsx4)

30 29 These people are lower than the lowest thing that is or can me.

Can any of our lurking scientists help me out with what that might be?

A Lawyer?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:33 PM (O2RFr)

31 Zaid sounds like one of these idiot fucks that either can not or will not consider that somebody will skip all the dumb shit and go straight to physical violence on his ass.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 09, 2019 06:34 PM (09tFn)

32 "I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life."

Pretty sure that's illegal....well, it use to be.

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:35 PM (cF8AT)

33 So, based on the comments from his Mark Zaid's Twitter feed, May 27, 2018, people were calling this piece of scum out then.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2019 06:35 PM (wiXsO)

34 @14 jmel-don't forget, clacking clams

Posted by: JROD at October 09, 2019 06:35 PM (o4fG0)

35 before the game starts, was zaid willing to stipulate that his leo and intelligence community clients would be limited to open source info and not have access to government information to conduct their searches?

makes a big difference.

was he suggesting that his clients would be willing to inappropriately use their access to government resources to help him blackmail someone?

Posted by: not to at October 09, 2019 06:35 PM (HALdu)

36 We have decided not to prosecute if he is charged with any crime.

Posted by: DOJ at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (6OENN)

37 If this doesn't result in jail time there needs to be a march on DC

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (wW/Z/)

38 These people are lower than the lowest thing that is or can me.

Can any of our lurking scientists help me out with what that might be?
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Hillary's pelvic floor?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (JcXHH)

39 What? Graham threatening to use Judiciary for a useful purpose? How will he find the time, while he's turning the world upside down to stop the ten thousandth border fight between Turkey and Kurd militia groups?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (QDnY+)

40 They wouldn't have to resort to such underhanded tactics and shady shenanigans if Trump (not my president) weren't such a not Hillary.

Posted by: Joyless Behar at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (dshfP)

41 A Democrat telling the truth.

That's funny.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (ssoXo)

42 cipollone > zaid

Posted by: trapper's girl at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (s5yKc)

43 I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life.

This is why red flag laws will get people killed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (JFO2v)

44 A lot of libs are going to be shattered over the next 12 months because they don't see this coming at all. They are totally unaware. Literally.

NPR (I know) interviewed someone who mentioned in passing the Biden scandal and the NPR interviewer jumped in and literally yelled that Trump was "repeating a LIE!"

I'm more talking about the LIV/passive liberals. They're going to be, like, "Why are dozens of Democrats on trial? Where did this come from?!"

I will laugh at the MSM trying to *not* cover dozens (gw) of criminal trials against Democrats.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (UYvk0)

45 Fat Tony: "I have learned that someone in this room is a squealer.
Legs: "We've narrowed it down to either Johnny Tightlips or Frankie the Squealer."
Frankie the Squealer: "Okay, it's me! I can't help it! I just like squealing! It makes me feel big!"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (IttZ7)

46 27 Did they miss the xtra point?

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (ZCEU2)

47 In the IG department, they are all Democrats, at least 95%

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (ssoXo)

48 Don't regulatory changes require 60d public notice periods and OMB review?

Posted by: Jean at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (nO72o)

49 If this doesn't result in jail time there needs to be a march on DC

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (wW/Z/)

Fuck yeah!

Oh. Not to burn it. For a protest. Lame.

Posted by: trev006 at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (dHvRD)

50
Uh huh. Wannabe thug. I wonder if he'd want to meet the real thing. I bet he wouldn't be "game" for that. Soft, rich pussy, this one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (yQyH6)

51 "I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life."

Pretty sure that's illegal....well, it use to be.
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:35 PM (cF8AT)

Used to be but Global War on Terror. Steps had to be taken to make us safe.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (aS1PU)

52 >>Can IG's be fired? Look what Obama did to Gerald Walpin, and that was persecution for doing a real investigation about a real crime that Obama was knee deep in, IIRC.

Yep. Trump can fire any employee of the Executive branch.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)

53 Well the thing is -- a sharp-minded friend of mine observes -- that a sitting Vice President is not a political candidate.

***
Ahh shucks. I didn't know you could read my mind.

And Zaid's threat is worthy of a bar report, imo.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

54 27 or a Touchdown and two FGs?

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (ZCEU2)

55 30 29 These people are lower than the lowest thing that is or can me.

Can any of our lurking scientists help me out with what that might be?

A Lawyer?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:33 PM (O2RFr)

Oh fuck me running, here we go.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (NWiLs)

56 46 27 Did they miss the xtra point?

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2019 06:37 PM (ZCEU2)

Nah 2 FG's

Posted by: jsg at October 09, 2019 06:38 PM (6OENN)

57 Ben sasse still hiding under his desk?

Posted by: Inogame at October 09, 2019 06:38 PM (N8hWP)

58 Oh fuck me running, here we go.

Trying to picture the logistics of that

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:38 PM (O2RFr)

59 Also note that Zaid says "work for or advised" - doubtful this low level agent would be a W2 employee (so not working "for") and doubtful they asked or contracted for advice - they may have had him stuffing envelopes as a volunteer though and hey, so Zaid's not shitting you in the negative!

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 06:39 PM (32YRo)

60 34
Clacking Clams! That's disgusting...and brilliant! LOLOLOL

Posted by: jmel at October 09, 2019 06:39 PM (OeWgo)

61 43 I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life.

This is why red flag laws will get people killed.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (JFO2v)

Yep. Not to mention that using law enforcement databases for anything other than official purposes is itself a crime, IIRC.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 06:39 PM (NWiLs)

62
Glenn Beck explained very well how this fake whistleblower's complaint did not follow regular procedure at all.

Beck went on to say, and I think he's right, and so do all of you, that the "whistleblower" BROKE THE LAW and leaked classified information to Shiff. Furthermore, the "whistleblower," his lawyers, AND Shiff broke several laws in concocting this hoax.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:39 PM (I34CP)

63 The CIA is 95% Democrats, with the exception of the CAGs and Mormons. And, the Mormons hate Trump.

Posted by: Jean at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (nO72o)

64 So. . . the "whistleblower" so frightened by Trump's alleged extortion has a lawyer who likes to blackmail his critics - in public, no less.

You cannot satire or come up with a crazy enough conspiracy theory that is worse than the truth about these corrupt criminals, can you?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (bDqIh)

65 Here's the 'next' thing....

@NewsBreaking 9 minutes ago

BREAKING: President Trump reportedly pressed Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to 3 people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office - Bloomberg

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (cF8AT)

66 Is this the same Mark Zaid who is representing Mark Waid whom Ya Boi Zack is suing for tortuous interference?

Posted by: Josephistan at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (Izzlo)

67 Joe the plumber to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (8qUJW)

68 58 Oh fuck me running, here we go.

Trying to picture the logistics of that
Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:38 PM (O2RFr)

Think wheelbarrow race.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 06:41 PM (NWiLs)

69 "Senator Deepthroat - I'm dissatisfied with your behavior Mr. Bureaucrat."

Gawd, that always makes me laugh!

Posted by: 13times at October 09, 2019 06:41 PM (K3B2k)

70 Tami

I give up

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:41 PM (O2RFr)

71 Is this the same Mark Zaid who is representing Mark Waid whom Ya Boi Zack is suing for tortuous interference?
Posted by: Josephistan at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (Izzlo)

I need to buy a program to keep up.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 09, 2019 06:41 PM (aS1PU)

72 DCI Haspel to Italia. Rumint that Barr/Durham visit incompletely satisfactory.

I remain available for extended investigative work in Italy [not Ukraine, except maybe July - October], but cannot promise quick results.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (QDnY+)

73 It's treasonous crapweasels all the way down, isn't it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (rBtIz)

74 Anyone who thinks the rule of law is going to return through voting is bordering on delusional at this point.

I'm not saying I don't enjoy watching orangemanbad drive them nuts and trample them underfoot, or that I don't appreciate the short reprieve we've been given while they out themselves... but it is just that, a reprieve.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (67XdO)

75 BREAKING: President Trump reportedly pressed Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to 3 people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office - Bloomberg

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He asked the SecState to do the DOJ's AG job? what?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (FEQY4)

76 Wait...now that I think about it...Tillerson was State Dept. How would he persuade DOJ?

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (cF8AT)

77 Which might also explain why he was "visibly shaken" at the thought that his boss' actions, which might include some of his own actions, were going to be investigated.

***

Now this makes sense. I hadn't thought of that angle before.

Crazy how, every once in a while when a dem speaks, the truth sneaks in.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (Ed8Zd)

78 Saw a tweet somewhere:
WB lawyer1 - Schumer Lawyer
WB lawyer2 - Clinton Lawyer

WB Clapper associate, working relation with 2020 dem, and registered dem.

Going to need a lot more than that to throw the country into the verge of civil war, just because you cannot get over losing an election in 2016.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, outlaw at October 09, 2019 06:43 PM (jYnPD)

79
President Trump reportedly pressed Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department...

Wait, what??

The president urged the Secretary of State to urge the Justice Department to...??

Why didn't the president just "press" his Attorney General? Why use the SecState? What a load of bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:43 PM (I34CP)

80 13-1

Posted by: Vendette at October 09, 2019 06:43 PM (Yeuu4)

81 When the stories about the IC IG first started coming out I wondered why Trump didn't fire his ass right away. Now I think Barr told him to be patient, he's going to hang himself and probably resign. Forcing him to resign is a whole lot better than the press freaking out if Trump fired him.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 09, 2019 06:43 PM (4thlk)

82 Score: 13-1

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:43 PM (cF8AT)

83 It's treasonous crapweasels all the way down, isn't it?

Aw hell.. here we go again...

Posted by: Weasels at October 09, 2019 06:43 PM (gPZ9i)

84 >> Score: 13-1

Where's 'And so it begins' guy?

Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (F39r6)

85 The lowest thing depends on your definition of "down". Most people consider down to mean toward the center of the earth. So the lowest thing is the white-hot iron/nickel at the center of the earth.

Posted by: Chris M at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (+B8e0)

86
Imagine a president who has to ask his SecState a FAVOR to get the Dept of Justice to do something for him. Yeah, that makes sense!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (I34CP)

87
"I'm dissatisfied, to put it mildly."

Cool story, bro.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (M9ntN)

88 Zaid sounds like one of these idiot fucks that either can not or will not consider that somebody will skip all the dumb shit and go straight to physical violence on his ass.

Posted by: Hope Springs

He's basically Avenatti without the Porn Star/Pole Dancer as a client - everything is a threat and up in someone's grill as a way to keep his head above water while still getting on TV

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (32YRo)

89 "In order to detract from the substance of the complaint..."
***
Which complaint we all have shown is bs because it completely mischaracterizes and lies about the content of the phone call, WHICH WE NOW KNOW!!

How does the left keep ignoring this fact!!???!!

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (Ed8Zd)

90 82 Score: 13-1

are they wearing rally caps ? ha!

Posted by: chimichango at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (B+t5k)

91 13-1 - It's a rally!

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (gPZ9i)

92 Immona need more red yarn, little push pins and photos for my Wall of Conspiracy.

Just kidding. I gave up trying to keep up a long, long time ago. It's just basically a bunch of Mardi Gras Head shit heels nipping at Trump's heels.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (xPJvm)

93 75 BREAKING: President Trump reportedly pressed Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to 3 people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office - Bloomberg

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He asked the SecState to do the DOJ's AG job? what?

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see, these batshit insane libs screwed this up, trumpdff probably asked Rex to stop a foreign prosecution of someone at Giuliani's bidding.

Isn't this basic foreign policy shit? Presidents defending people from corrupt foreign prosecution.

I thought it's Gotcha to get Biden over his kid because this is politics, not pattycake, but the idea the president can't do this every day is batshit stupid. People like giuliani or Podesta have access and that's why they get big $$. sorry about the world being real.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 06:45 PM (FEQY4)

94 *smokes cigarette*

Posted by: hope solo at October 09, 2019 06:45 PM (ransv)

95 Levin has been filling the Democrats stories full of holes

And now how Mittens is working against the President.

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2019 06:45 PM (ZCEU2)

96 He's basically Avenatti without the Porn Star/Pole Dancer as a client - everything is a threat and up in someone's grill as a way to keep his head above water while still getting on TV
Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (32YRo)

I was just thinking Zaid sounds like Avenatti's scum brother from another mother.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 06:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

97 Ben Had, I read that as Joe Le Taxi to the white courtesy phone. I need a drink.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (UUkQp)

98
So, how's that Public Safety Power Outage going?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (NMAzL)

99 I've got a fever and there's only one cure that will rid us of all these current and future arrogant deep State State traitorous scum: Make Helicoptering Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (jYNqF)

100 Wait...now that I think about it...Tillerson was State Dept. How would he persuade DOJ?
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (cF8AT)

Because Drumpf is so dumb that he thinks Sec State is in charge of the DOJ.

Posted by: This is CNN at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (Izzlo)

101 Not until people go to jail will this stop.

Posted by: IanDeal at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (vgGyZ)

102 So, how's that Public Safety Power Outage going

I still have my power but a big part of my city doesn't

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (O2RFr)

103
... according to 3 people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office - Bloomberg

Three people, eh?
And we're just hearing about this, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (I34CP)

104 Prez could ask secstate to press AG on a case if there were foreign policy implications [just an example]. Not at all unheard of.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (QDnY+)

105 He asked the SecState to do the DOJ's AG job? what?

Posted by: mushroom maniac

He could just order them to drop it as the Chief Law Enforcement officer - or pardon the SOB later like Clinton did Marc Rich - this makes no sense. Fake news.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (32YRo)

106
Which might also explain why he was "visibly shaken" at the thought that his boss' actions, which might include some of his own actions, were going to be investigated.

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I'm not following.

The WB was visibly shaken at the thought that Joe Biden's actions, which might include some of his (WB's) own, might be investigated.

How does this lead to the WB B'ing the W?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (M9ntN)

107 Not until people go to jail will this stop.

Posted by: IanDeal at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (vgGyZ)

At the very least.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (9Om/r)

108 63 The CIA is 95% Democrats, with the exception of the CAGs and Mormons. And, the Mormons hate Trump.
Posted by: Jean at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (nO72o)

Orange Man>>>>>Magic Drawers

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (JFO2v)

109 Zaid sounds like one of these idiot fucks that either can not or will not consider that somebody will skip all the dumb shit and go straight to physical violence on his ass.

There seems to be a host of these guys out there, small men with big aggressive personas who aren't terribly good at their job but get big time work

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (KZzsI)

110 102
So, how's that Public Safety Power Outage going

I still have my power but a big part of my city doesn't

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (O2RFr)

Racism!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, outlaw at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (jYnPD)

111 Not until people go to jail will this stop.
Posted by: IanDeal at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (vgGyZ)

has to be gay rape jail

Posted by: not to at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (HALdu)

112 Three people, eh?
And we're just hearing about this, now?

The other stuff wasn't working as well as they had hoped

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM (O2RFr)

113 This is why red flag laws will get people killed.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (JFO2v)

Meh ... judges will preside over everything. What could possibly go wrong ? It's just well-meaning folks trying to keep guns out of the wrong hands.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM (09tFn)

114 So the rule was backdated, while at the same time shiff's team helped write the complaint. Sounds perfectly legit to me.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM (wW/Z/)

115 100 Wait...now that I think about it...Tillerson was State Dept. How would he persuade DOJ?
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:42 PM (cF8AT)

Because Drumpf is so dumb that he thinks Sec State is in charge of the DOJ.

====

the story being tweeted, as we see it missing basic ideas:

1. obviously a foreigner being prosecuted in foreign country.

2. nationality of person

3. which fucking country

4. nature of problem person is in.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM (FEQY4)

116 >>So the rule was backdated, while at the same time shiff's team helped write the complaint. Sounds perfectly legit to me.

I don't know how you would expect them to pull this fraud off any other way, really?

Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM (F39r6)

117
President Trump is becoming like Elvis.
Everyone sees him committing high crimes and misdemeanors in the darndest places!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:49 PM (I34CP)

118 The Yankees will win the World Series. All this other preliminary stuff is just noise.

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2019 06:49 PM (gmo/4)

119 111 Not until people go to jail will this stop.
Posted by: IanDeal at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (vgGyZ)

has to be gay rape jail
Posted by: not to at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (HALdu)

wait there are options??

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:49 PM (JFO2v)

120
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 09, 2019 06:49 PM (KCxzN)

121 Is Kershaw getting a chance to choke on Game 5?

Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2019 06:49 PM (F39r6)

122 has to be gay rape jail
=====

Lock me up and throw away the key!

Posted by: Shep! at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (JcXHH)

123 These people are lower than the lowest thing that is or can me.

Can any of our lurking scientists help me out with what that might be?
Posted by: Doctor Deplorable at October 09, 2019 06:32 PM (YIsx4)

Not a scientist but I'll give it a shot.....
Pond scum sucking bottom feeder
Pile of rancid stains
Decomposing cockroach shit
Bag of noxious rat infested weeds
Democrats

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (myjNJ)

124 So, how's that Public Safety Power Outage going?

I'm hearing up to EIGHT DAYS

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (KZzsI)

125 113 This is why red flag laws will get people killed.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (JFO2v)

Meh ... judges will preside over everything. What could possibly go wrong ? It's just well-meaning folks trying to keep guns out of the wrong hands.
Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM (09tFn)

IMHO It is meant to get people killed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (JFO2v)

126 The WB was visibly shaken at the thought that Joe
Biden's actions, which might include some of his (WB's) own, might be
investigated.

How does this lead to the WB B'ing the W?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (M9ntN)

It doesn't. WB was grasping at straws to provide himself and boss any protection he could. They fit the square peg, hearsay based on classified info leak, into the round hole, WB complaint report form, poorly.

They've got nothing. It is their job now to convince everyone that their nothingburger is the biggest threat to our democracy ever, or at least since the last one.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, outlaw at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (jYnPD)

127 If the press blasted a big headline that said Trump tried to make himself Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, over half the country would lose it and scream it is the end of the world.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (n13/j)

128 Zaid sounds like one of these idiot fucks

***

He's Avenatti without the sex appeal.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (+dsLj)

129 I want a cantankerosity endorsement on my Recycled Cardboard Level Moron card.

From JJ.

In Hungarian.

Posted by: Miklos, who doesn't ask for much at October 09, 2019 06:51 PM (QzkSJ)

130 The Yankees will win the World Series. All this other preliminary stuff is just noise.

Well, if they don't, it will be the first decade they haven't since ... baseball

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 06:51 PM (KZzsI)

131 Is Kershaw getting a chance to choke on Game 5?
Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2019 06:49 PM (F39r6)
-------

Buehler is starting, but the way these games have been going we just might see Kershaw too. Nats are starting Strasburg.

Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 06:51 PM (aXucN)

132 @105
We are going to be seeing a metric crapton of stray voltage, squirrels and chum like this Tillerson BS being thrown out in the next couple of weeks in the run up to the release of the FISA report.

What we are seeing is the Deep State and the globalists panicking about what's coming.

I am coming around to believing something really big is about to go down.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 06:51 PM (DG/Oc)

133 126 The WB was visibly shaken at the thought that Joe
Biden's actions, which might include some of his (WB's) own, might be investigated.

===

attempted shaking of a federal agent, bad news for trump!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 06:52 PM (FEQY4)

134 Boom goes the dynamite! Not just Hunter, dad got his cut from Burisma!

https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekdThis

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at October 09, 2019 06:52 PM (fhP7v)

135 Drudge blaring a Fox poll that 51% want Trump removed. Lol. Yeah..51% of libtards in CA - sure.

Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (a0IVu)

136 "borders" on obstruction? Quit bluffing, charge him.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (Ad2sq)

137 I'm hearing up to EIGHT DAYS
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

"Eight days in October"

Sounds familiar, but seasonally appropriate.

Posted by: Miklos, thinking CfA should sell Hate Impeach Shakes at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (QzkSJ)

138 The funny thing is that the IG serves at the pleasure of the president, no?

So Trump can call the guy up and say: "What's the deal with your reporting form? Spell it out or you're fired."

The Dems can scream "OBSTRUCTION" all day long, but since they've said they'll impeach anyway, YOLO, amirite?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (cfSRQ)

139 Over 100 so.
I missed the Hildabeast getting yet another rapist out of hot water but did people see that the head of NBC news, Andy Lack, has been again accused of sexual misconduct by female staffers. What the hell we/are they putting in the water at NBC news?
https://tinyurl.com/yy7ot5v4
What a bunch of disgusting POSs. Yet we are to kowtow to the super eliteness.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (pw+jk)

140 So is someone going get the the SWAT treatment in the middle of the night? Gees. Seriously. WTF? How else are they going to get someone to roll over on these fucks?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (RVnO7)

141
President Trump reportedly pressed Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani...

Is it just me or is this EXACTLY what Joke Biden did for his son??

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (I34CP)

142 Power outage map shows situation pretty stable, about 5OOK customers affected in CA. Northern counties.

Generalizing, these counties do not have the voters that have made CA what a pathetic mess it is WRT public policy of all kinds. Thus, perfect. Not much chance of backlash from voters who have rejected the idiocy all along.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (QDnY+)

143 So the rule was backdated, while at the same time shiff's team helped write the complaint. Sounds perfectly legit to me.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2019 06:48 PM

Piano wire. Treasonous crapweasels. Lamp posts. Some assembly required.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2019 06:54 PM (rBtIz)

144 137 I'm hearing up to EIGHT DAYS
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

"Eight days in October"

Sounds familiar, but seasonally appropriate.
Posted by: Miklos, thinking CfA should sell Hate Impeach Shakes at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (QzkSJ)

Eight? I only got three!

Posted by: The Condor at October 09, 2019 06:54 PM (NWiLs)

145 Boom goes the dynamite! Not just Hunter, dad got his cut from Burisma!

https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekdThis
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at October 09, 2019 06:52 PM (fhP7v)
--------

Linky no worky.

Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 06:54 PM (aXucN)

146 What we are seeing is the Deep State and the globalists panicking about what's coming.

I'm still highly skeptical but THEY sure seem to think something awful is coming. Brennan as looked pants-crapping scared for over a year now

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 06:54 PM (KZzsI)

147 No one gets an Executive branch appointment without being political. Like NBA coaching jobs the first one is the hardest to get. After that , you can slither around administration changes, as this guy was able to di

Posted by: Big Cat at October 09, 2019 06:54 PM (Ps6Xq)

148 Called this yesterday, but you need to take it one step further.

Guy is supposed to be a CIA Ukraine expert.

Biden was point man for Obama, on Ukraine.

Ergo, if he was on Biden's staff, he was in the middle of all the corruption that was going on.

And may be the one who instigated the crime for which two Ukrainians have been convicted, ie interfering in the US Election by releasing information against Paul Manafort.

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (NgKpN)

149
Please stop feeding drudge.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (I34CP)

150 >
Piano wire. Treasonous crapweasels. Lamp posts. Some assembly required.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2019 06:54 PM (rBtIz)

Helicopters are moar fun.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (uDh3k)

151 Is Zaid saying his law enforcement clients will violate the fourth amendment at his command and then release the information to him for purposes of twitter revenge? Is thiis immoral and illegal act part of his compensation? Does the Virginia or D.C. bar countenance these threats or possible acts?

Posted by: Napoleon The Pig at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (CeHbE)

152 At the very least Zaid is implying that his intel and law enforcement clients regularly abuse their authority.

He is one helluva shitty lawyer to be saying things like that, and I would not be surprised if that tweet showed up in a court filing at some point as it is an admission against interests.

Posted by: Thatch at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (/rcwO)

153 By the way, with the DIA getting charged for 20 years, anyone still claiming no one's going to get punished?

Seems to me that things are about to get rather sporty.

Remember, the big news yesterday about Dunham wasn't that he was expanding his investigation, but that it HAD expanDED. Past tense. Only now was this being known.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (cfSRQ)

154 Don't mean nothing till someone goes to prison.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (T8A10)

155 in Boulder County, here comes the northern front. Blizzard tonight.

Posted by: the LSD at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (ykYG2)

156 Thus, perfect. Not much chance of backlash from voters who have rejected the idiocy all along.

"You think we're nuts? We're not gonna shut down San Francisco or something"
--PGE

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (KZzsI)

157 Boom goes the dynamite! Not just Hunter, dad got his cut from Burisma!

https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekdThis
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at October 09, 2019 06:52 PM (fhP7v)

Fixed link here:
https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekd

Posted by: bonhomme at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (9t0Zz)

158 What the hell we/are they putting in the water at NBC news?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (pw+jk)

Well I hear they have "all you can eat oysters" at the office every Friday.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (RVnO7)

159 I second that, Matt Drudge sucks, keep your dick out of his mouth.

Posted by: the LSD at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (ykYG2)

160 Anyone who uses "esq" is a douchebag among douchbags.

Posted by: dagny at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (nRWPy)

161 Changes schmanges. These things happen

Posted by: G marks the spot at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (Js8Dx)

162 /soc

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (ykYG2)

163 149
Please stop feeding drudge.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM (I34CP)

Yes, you're right but I can't help myself. It's like watching a train wreck seeing his metamorphosis to a NT-er

Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (a0IVu)

164 Unfortunately, this bombardment of accusations and "we know he did something bad, but we're being stonewalled" is to put in average voters' heads that Trump did *something* illegal, not sure what, but he did. Think of how many people believe he sexually assaulted women when there's no evidence he ever did.

Posted by: Vendette at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (Yeuu4)

165
It's surreal to see the Deep State and Left repeatedly accuse President Trump of exactly what we know Biden did.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (I34CP)

166 Anyone who uses "esq" is a douchebag among douchbags.

But it's ironic.

Posted by: some soyboy hipster at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (ykYG2)

167 How much of that Iranian 150 Billion was kicked back?

Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (F39r6)

168
I remember an attorney who tried to menace me in a similar fashion. I laughed at him, hung up the phone, and called a guy who can find people, and has a drug habit. We made a deal, and I found him, long before he could make good on his empty threats.

Smack-talking attorneys are bitches. The hardasses don't run their mouths on Twitter. Or anywhere else, FTM.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (JrM+N)

169 I am coming around to believing something really big is about to go down.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 06:51 PM (DG/Oc)

Yeah. I believe they believe it. So I am inclined to believe it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, outlaw at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (jYnPD)

170 Watched Strasburg pitch his final college game.

Sooth, no, Biden is accused of pressing a foreign prosecutor to drop a case, not our own DOJ.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (QDnY+)

171 Helicopters are moar fun.
Posted by: Muad'dib

WHAT??

Posted by: Miklos, with required hearing protection on the heli flightline at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (QzkSJ)

172 29- clam shit at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Nothing lower than that in the natural world.

Posted by: vivi at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (11H2y)

173 138 The funny thing is that the IG serves at the pleasure of the president, no?

So Trump can call the guy up and say: "What's the deal with your reporting form? Spell it out or you're fired."

The Dems can scream "OBSTRUCTION" all day long, but since they've said they'll impeach anyway, YOLO, amirite?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (cfSRQ)

I still don't think this guy did this in a vacuum.

You need to call the head of the CIA on the carpet.

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (NgKpN)

174 Damn them all to Hell if this is true. There better be jail time involved.

I think we passed that a long time ago.

Guillotine

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (lD3vL)

175 It's like watching a train wreck seeing his metamorphosis to a NT-er

Reminds me of someone, Charles somebody.. He who shall not be named.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (gPZ9i)

176 160 Anyone who uses "esq" is a douchebag among douchbags.
Posted by: dagny at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (nRWPy)

No WAY!

Posted by: Bill S. Preston, Esquire at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (NWiLs)

177 https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekdThis
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at October 09, 2019 06:52 PM (fhP7v)
--------

Linky no worky.

Try this: https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekd

Gateway Pundit

Posted by: Dempsy at October 09, 2019 06:58 PM (Cd8NC)

178 The Slo-Mo Coup.... the Democratic Communist Party is looking forward past 2020, which will be a loss. They are praying for an economic collapse, or an American Ground War, to set the stage for 2024. Meanwhile it will be Attack Trump!11!! non- stop. These people think long term, and long term is their advantage.

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 06:58 PM (90T4r)

179 "32 "I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life."

Pretty sure that's illegal....well, it use to be."

Wow. I wonder if this was part of the 80% of illegal searched of the intelligence data base?

Posted by: vera at October 09, 2019 06:58 PM (rlsSF)

180 Meanwhile Romney is whipping support for impeachment. What the hell is wrong with that man?

Posted by: Liberty at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (o5fb0)

181 Helicopters are moar fun.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 09, 2019 06:55 PM

Tomayto, tomahto...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (rBtIz)

182 "Eight days in October"

Sounds familiar, but seasonally appropriate.

Posted by: Miklos, thinking CfA should sell Hate Impeach Shakes at October 09, 2019 06:53 PM (QzkSJ)

ESPN had a documentary on the 2004 ALCS with that title.

Posted by: Vendette at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (Yeuu4)

183 IMHO It is meant to get people killed.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2019 06:50 PM (JFO2v)

Did I need to put out the Sarc Signal ?

Regarding Zaid - yeah, he's a blowhard trying to save his own ass, as many noted.

But I think it's more. I've worked around so many fucks that misinterpret some kind of "authority" as a force-field that will protect them from painful personal consequences. That's not how shit works.

Zaid sounds like one of those fucks.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (09tFn)

184 Unfortunately, this bombardment of accusations and "we know he did something bad, but we're being stonewalled" is to put in average voters' heads that Trump did *something* illegal, not sure what, but he did. Think of how many people believe he sexually assaulted women when there's no evidence he ever did.
Posted by: Vendette

They call it "stray voltage".

Posted by: Miklos, with New Improved Word Power at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (QzkSJ)

185
It's like watching a train wreck seeing his metamorphosis to a NT-er

Reminds me of someone, Charles somebody.. He who shall not be named.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (gPZ9i)

I almost forgot about that assmunch.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 07:00 PM (9Om/r)

186 Think of how many people believe he sexually assaulted women when there's no evidence he ever did.

But, but, but Trump said he grabbed women by the pussy. That's like, totally an admission he's sexually assaulted women.

/s

Posted by: bonhomme at October 09, 2019 07:00 PM (9t0Zz)

187
This is like OJ Simpson running to Shiff and accusing the president of butchering the first lady when a) that's exactly what OJ did to his own wife, and b) the president's wife is alive and well for all the world to see.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 07:00 PM (I34CP)

188 180 Meanwhile Romney is whipping support for impeachment. What the hell is wrong with that man?
Posted by: Liberty at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (o5fb0)

He wants to run and throw another election in 2024...

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 07:00 PM (90T4r)

189

Fox Special Report says 51% want Trump REMOVED!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (aKsyK)

190 Arrest, motherfucker, do they speak it?

Seems no one knows what it means anymore.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (Z+IKu)

191 180
Meanwhile Romney is whipping support for impeachment. What the hell is wrong with that man?

Posted by: Liberty at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (o5fb0)

His underwear is very restrictive.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (RVnO7)

192 Obviously a logical guess is that these increasingly batshit attacks from Dems is panic about coming attractions.

But we'll only know down the road.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (QDnY+)

193 If the press blasted a big headline that said Trump tried to make himself Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, over half the country would lose it and scream it is the end of the world.

Posted by: Quint

This! I think Quint is right...even the smallest exercise of executive power - those provided for under the Constitution - bring Democrats to their feet in unison to shout "Impeach Him!" - and the press playing into it has just become preposterous.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (32YRo)

194 This zaid character is despicable, arrogant, and evil.

Posted by: Flyover at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (B5K06)

195 I love the sound of breaking glass.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (ZLI7S)

196
Anyone else feel like they're in a race?

Is Barr gonna actually do something before impeachment?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (I34CP)

197 Fox Special Report says 51% want Trump REMOVED!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (aKsyK)

Ha. Try it.
Fox news is not your friend.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (aS1PU)

198 Fixed link here:
https://tinyurl.com/y5kvuekd
Posted by: bonhomme at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM (9t0Zz)

Paid after leaving office?

Wonder if Slo Joe Registered as a foreign agent?

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (NgKpN)

199 Immona need more red yarn, little push pins and photos for my Wall of Conspiracy.

Just kidding. I gave up trying to keep up a long, long time ago. It's just basically a bunch of Mardi Gras Head shit heels nipping at Trump's heels.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2019 06:44 PM (xPJvm)

Reminds of the scene in Deadpool when he's looking at his board of pics and string then looks at the camera and says "this shits gonna get knots. "

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (myjNJ)

200 These people think long term, and long term is their advantage.

Oh, they will think long terms, all right...

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (CDGwz)

201 Fox Special Report says 51% want Trump REMOVED!

Whoever does Fox polls is never anywhere near reality

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (O2RFr)

202 Anyone who uses "esq" is a douchebag among douchbags.
Posted by: dagny at October 09, 2019 06:56 PM

Wait, what?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState, Esq., what is not a scumbag lawyer at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (rBtIz)

203 Well said, Sooth.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (UUkQp)

204 >>Yes, you're right but I can't help myself. It's like watching a train wreck seeing his metamorphosis to a NT-er

IC, DRudge's transformation is the result of a business decision with a Google-owned company.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3ho4jw2

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (bDqIh)

205 I wonder if the concession stands at whatever they call the Braves' stadium these days are currently having a half-off sale.

Posted by: Vendette at October 09, 2019 07:02 PM (Yeuu4)

206 I'd love to have my intelligence and law enforcement clients see what they can find about your life

Guy seems to think he's in the mob or something, but the kind of guy that the wiseguys didn't care for and would not back up his play for.

Imagine you're an NSA exec who has this buffoon as a client. Imagine him saying something like that publicly. Think you'd like it?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (KZzsI)

207 Meanwhile Romney is whipping support for impeachment. What the hell is wrong with that man?

Posted by: Liberty at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (o5fb0)

His underwear is very restrictive.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at October 09, 2019 07:01 PM (RVnO7)

Impossible, he has no balls to get crowded.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (9Om/r)

208 Wow. I wonder if this was part of the 80% of illegal searched of the intelligence data base?
Posted by: vera

It was 85%, akshully.

Posted by: Miklos Collyer, Presiding at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (QzkSJ)

209 Drudge sucks and he is obviously choosing to manipulate the news for his anti Trump agenda. Just like he did everything he could to get Trump the nod in the primaries. Drudge is about Drudge and he might have just become too smart by half. He might end up with no following at all when this is over,

But i don't blame the poster for passing on news. It is a Fox report, it is their poll and they are the ones proudly displaying it. It is not like Fox is some obscure site.

Yeah I am off Drudge. But I question Fox a lot too. Check that, hell I never watch Fox so banning them would be even easier than banning Drudge.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (n13/j)

210 Romney knows Exactly what he's doing...

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (90T4r)

211 I do not honestly know what is up with Romney, unless he figures this is a big power play for him to be the de facto leader of the nevertrump movement and GOPe. He can be the next McMullin!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (KZzsI)

212 Romney knows how to lose. That's about all he knows.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (gPZ9i)

213 51% wants impeach based on WHAT? There's no case being made.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (FEQY4)

214 Romney's kid, Kerry's kid and Bolger's kid (whitney's bro another dem operative) ALL HAD THE SAME DEAL WITH BARISMA as Biden's kid.

Posted by: dagny at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (nRWPy)

215 This Atkinson person . . . If he's smart, he has an agent out shopping for a book deal, with a guaranteed advance NOW. Working title could be "Integrity", or "Whistleblower" or something like that.

He needs to get the deal done, and the check cashed ASAfP. The guy pushed all his chips into the pot on this. If the impeachment thing doesn't work out, he'll just be the next forgotten useful idiot.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (8AONa)

216 Meanwhile Romney is whipping support for impeachment. What the hell is wrong with that man?

Posted by: Liberty at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (o5fb0)

What is wrong with Utah. They let a carpet bagger in using them for a Senate slot who telegraphed what he was going to do. The only people in Utah I wonder about are those that are shocked by it all.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (n13/j)

217 how many likely voters want Trump impeached?

Posted by: not to at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (HALdu)

218 @211

Romney is magic underwear deep in Ukraine and China corruption, his actions must be viewed through that prism.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (DG/Oc)

219 I remember an attorney who tried to menace me in a
similar fashion. I laughed at him, hung up the phone, and called a guy
who can find people, and has a drug habit. We made a deal, and I found
him, long before he could make good on his empty threats.

Smack-talking attorneys are bitches. The hardasses don't run their mouths on Twitter. Or anywhere else, FTM.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 06:57 PM (JrM+N)
===
Yes. I might have known of a guy that did some work on a lawyer's house which the lawyer may have said he would not pay him for and would go to court to not pay. Now this might be urban lore but this contractor asked the lawyer to come checkout some work behind the house. And maybe this contractor then knocked the lawyer out. Then maybe this lawyer woke up and paid the contractor. Or at least that is how I heard it form a friend of a friend who might have cut the contractor's hair.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (pw+jk)

220 213 51% wants impeach based on WHAT? There's no case being made.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (FEQY4)

Yeah, if there was a case, Pelosi would have called for a house vote already.

Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (a0IVu)

221
WB was grasping at straws to provide himself and boss any protection he could.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, outlaw

=======

Hunter and Ukraine wasn't on the radar until this WB complaint (i.e., spy leak).

So we're saying this is another indication that people are running screaming scared about impending revelations from Huber and Durham and trying to get out in front of charges so that it looks like any continuation of long-existing investigations is political backlashing by Trump?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (M9ntN)

222 Fox is a routinely rotten pollster.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (EIi4N)

223 ESPN had a documentary on the 2004 ALCS with that title.
Posted by: Vendette at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (Yeuu4)
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A most excellent documentary. Highly recommended.

Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (aXucN)

224
Romney only wanted to be a senator to be in the Senate to vote in the trial, if it ever came to that.

Romney has no other purpose in the Senate or in politics.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (I34CP)

225 51% wants impeach based on WHAT? There's no case being made.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (FEQY4)

They're nuts. They get whipped up by social media and the wine moms. They don't need no stinkin' reasons.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (n13/j)

226 Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (aXucN)

Hi bluebell...Go Dodgers! *eyes bluebell nervously*

Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (a0IVu)

227 211 I do not honestly know what is up with Romney, unless he figures this is a big power play for him to be the de facto leader of the nevertrump movement and GOPe. He can be the next McMullin!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (KZzsI)

Yes, that's it exactly.... there is a Mr. Principled Conservative Vacancy, right now... he is going to step in, run agin, and throw another election... which pleases the Deep State.... whom he holds allegiance to.

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (90T4r)

228 Jennifer Griffin is a good reporter and I respect her, she Tweeted this about the Kurds, the military and Turkey.

https://tinyurl.com/y2mffy59

I'll admit that I am a little worried about this situation. Trump is going to need allies in the House and Senate and this may piss them off enough to stop fighting for him

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (wiXsO)

229 this is why trump needs oval office speech to get his side out. the press can mantra "badorangeman did bad bad" but they're lying. And hiding facts that don't point to orangemanbad.

So, we're a bit premature. As if a poll saying 57% is enough to impeach. Fuck this stupidity the left wants idiocracy.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (FEQY4)

230 >>I do not honestly know what is up with Romney, unless he figures this is a big power play for him to be the de facto leader of the nevertrump movement and GOPe. He can be the next McMullin!

Probably partly that - he's likely not the only GOPe who wants to fill McCain's shoes. Also probably partly out of business consideration, and his former company Bain, and his son's and his company Solamere Capital, do business in China. He's part of the transnational elite business-political class, and Trump is a threat to them.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (bDqIh)

231 Yeah I am off Drudge. But I question Fox a lot too. Check that, hell I never watch Fox so banning them would be even easier than banning Drudge.
Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (n13/j)

I watch Tucker, then about 10 minutes of Hannity (its all I can stand before his bloviating of the same talking points irritates me).

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (NgKpN)

232

Fuck the Kurds. Bunch of corrupt liars.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (I34CP)

233 The left wants Maoist Idiocracy

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (FEQY4)

234 189

Fox Special Report says 51% want Trump REMOVED!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
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And Trump was predicted to lose to Clinton by 93%. Political polls are garbage.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (P4EKo)

235 Look folks,

Like it or not there's no use pining for the fjords. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. American politics will not be returning to the wondrous days of yesteryear, days shining with the peace and harmony of the two party system aligned for the common good.
Whenever the hell that was.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (gPZ9i)

236 Murdock's kids are liberal, right. Well, why is anyone surprised Fox News is going in the crapper.

That battlefield is lost.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (LmyFL)

237 soo hubby is watching tv nooz about Matt Lauer

heaven help me, but from the description of what happened - I might be on Lauer's side rather than on this Brooke chick

because it sounds like she was sleeping with Lauer to keep her job but it doesn't sound like Lauer had any idea that she wasn't into it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (G546f)

238 213 51% wants impeach based on WHAT? There's no case being made.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (FEQY4)

"Beating Hillary" gets you up to 48% and the other 3% come from "The Conservative Case for Impeaching Trump".

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2019 07:09 PM (ABjxW)

239 Yeah I am off Drudge. But I question Fox a lot too. Check that, hell I never watch Fox so banning them would be even easier than banning Drudge.
Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 07:03 PM (n13/j)

-------

I watch Tucker, but that's it. I tuned in today - and found that they really, really suck. They have a show called "Outnumbered." It sucks balls. It's followed by a show featuring Dana Perino. I couldn't bear to sit through that, and switched back to OAN, but I can assume it sucks super-mega-ultra balls.

Fox is not cool.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 07:09 PM (JrM+N)

240 Mittens is the worst Never

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2019 07:09 PM (ZCEU2)

241 Bottom line, is there money to be made off " backing the Kurds", or not??? Follow the money, and you'll find the Washington Pols....

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 07:09 PM (90T4r)

242 >>because it sounds like she was sleeping with Lauer to keep her job but it doesn't sound like Lauer had any idea that she wasn't into it

A Rape in the Butt is worth Two in the Bush.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (F39r6)

243 Fox Special Report says 51% want Trump REMOVED!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot

If that were remotely true, Pelosi would be bringing up articles of Impeachment up before the house as we comment here - the fact that she isn't is all you need to know about Fox Polls.

I always remind myself to watch what politicians do, not what some poll says they should do. Because they always follow what they know to be the sentiment of the voters - job self-preservation being their number one objective at all times.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (32YRo)

244 Hi bluebell...Go Dodgers! *eyes bluebell nervously*
Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 07:07 PM (a0IVu)
--------

Hi IC. We shall be friends no matter what, I hope.

I just hope there are some Nats fans in Dodger stadium tonight.

Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (aXucN)

245 What is wrong with Utah. They let a carpet bagger in using them for a Senate slot who telegraphed what he was going to do.

I don't want to believe that the Mormon Church has that much power and control that they just installed this guy but it kinda looks that way from the outside.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (KZzsI)

246 Fox Special Report polls are like the Bible.

Posted by: Karl Rove esq at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (Pzzpr)

247 Romney is magic underwear deep in Ukraine and China corruption, his actions must be viewed through that prism.

And to think that someone this unstable and corrupt was the best that the GOP could offer to go against the post turtle.

After 2025, we are doomed.

Maranatha

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (lD3vL)

248 nowhere to put 'im.

Posted by: mjc at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (Pg+x7)

249 They still have not explained why WB1 was in fear for his life

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (urWr7)

250 I've said it a million times, but I'm tired of all the talking and posturing. Probably foolishly but 'm ready for the next level. I'm just glad there are people in control with more patience and smarts then me .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (2DOZq)

251 It looks like all of this is going to come down to whether Barr and Trump have the guts to arrest Biden or his son.

If they do the press will find it hard to keep up the "he asked Ukraine to dig up false dirt!" when the details slowly leak out of court...

If Trump also wants to help himself he could propose legislation that would ban the children/spouses of American top level politicians holding no show jobs in overseas corporations make Pelosi and Mittens find on the grounds of Trump's choosing...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (WdocV)

252 BREAKING: President Trump reportedly pressed Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to 3 people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office - Bloomberg
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 06:40 PM (cF8AT)

The truth- they probably were discussing Otto Warmbier or similar.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (Ed8Zd)

253 So, how's that Public Safety Power Outage going?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (NMAzL)

Let the punishment begin!

Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (v0R5T)

254 It sounds to me like Zaid has/had knowledge of the illegal spying going on using the FISC database.

Posted by: Jim T at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (15zwm)

255 These people are lower than the lowest thing that is or can me.

Can any of our lurking scientists help me out with what that might be?
Posted by: Doctor Deplorable at October 09, 2019 06:32 PM (YIsx4)

Not a scientist but I'll give it a shot.....
Pond scum sucking bottom feeder
Pile of rancid stains
Decomposing cockroach shit
Bag of noxious rat infested weeds
Democrats

Posted by: madamemayhem

how about Huma's morale as she changes Hillary's depends, post shart?

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (VcFUs)

256 Hi IC. We shall be friends no matter what, I hope.

I just hope there are some Nats fans in Dodger stadium tonight.

Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (aXucN)

smooches. always. Probably quite a few Nats fans will be there. getting to the stadium on a Wednesday evening will be a challenge.

Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (a0IVu)

257 After 2025, we are doomed.

Maranatha
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (lD3vL)

Maranatha indeed.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 09, 2019 07:12 PM (aS1PU)

258 Frese, the leaker, only followed about 175 accounts on Twitter. But, at least 20 of those were journalists and most of the rest were an interesting group of Resisters, like Alexandra Chalupa's sister, Andrea, Evelyn Farcas and other assorted creeps. I bet there were more leaks, this is just the first wave.

Posted by: Ever at October 09, 2019 07:12 PM (ZZDMQ)

259 Remember, you can't spell conspiracy without cons...

...nd piracy.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (mvenn)

260 There's not 40% support for impeaching Trump let alone 51, that's retarded and the number its self tells the tale: see, over half the country!!!

Ridiculous. If that kind of support was out there, the Democrats would already be proceeding with the impeachment hearings. This is meant to move public support for the idea, not reflect reality.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (KZzsI)

261 >>It looks like all of this is going to come down to whether Barr and Trump have the guts to arrest Biden or his son.

Biden and his son aren't even the most important thing that is going to come out of Ukraine.

Crowdstrike. the server.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (ZLI7S)

262 By the way, I didn't stick with the Lauer thread but what I read disappointed me.

No one noted that he used surprised anal.

Poor form, Morons, poor form.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (cfSRQ)

263 Fox Special Report polls are like the Bible.

Posted by: Karl Rove esq

Yup - just ask the 77K people who arranged to go the Trumps rally in - *checks notes* - the Twin Cities - the most liberal place in the US aside from NYC, Chicago and LA.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (32YRo)

264 Look folks,

Like it or not there's no use
pining for the fjords. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the
tube. American politics will not be returning to the wondrous days of
yesteryear, days shining with the peace and harmony of the two party
system aligned for the common good.
Whenever the hell that was.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (gPZ9i)

Not without a shit ton of iron cages, streets lined with impaled bodies, and a smoldering media.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (9Om/r)

265 214 Romney's kid, Kerry's kid and Bolger's kid (whitney's bro another dem operative) ALL HAD THE SAME DEAL WITH BARISMA as Biden's kid.
Posted by: dagny at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (nRWPy)

Yeah, I'd never thought on it until recently, but it seems that Paid Positions on Board of Director slots are pay offs to people.

What in the hell does Paul Ryan know about News? (FoxNews)

What the hell does Susan Rice know about TVs and Movies? (Netflix)

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (NgKpN)

266 105 He asked the SecState to do the DOJ's AG job? what?
Posted by: mushroom maniac

He could just order them to drop it as the Chief Law Enforcement officer - or pardon the SOB later like Clinton did Marc Rich - this makes no sense. Fake news.
Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 06:47 PM (32YRo)

According to the Bloomberg story that this is taken from, after this, Tillerson said No, Trump said OK, and that was the end of it and nothing ever happened. The end.

So looks like it's yet another instance of Dem's wanting to impeach over a casual conversation that had no consequences and which wasn't taped, and which the parties remember differently.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (V2Yro)

267 They still have not explained why WB1 was in fear for his life
Posted by: RoyalOil

And if "they" know wb1 is such a pussy, then it's only a matter of hours b4 wb1 gets doxxed blue-on-blue 'cause they cannot help themselves.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (VcFUs)

268
They still have not explained why WB1 was in fear for his life
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories

Stalked by a Sasquatch.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (aKsyK)

269 because it sounds like she was sleeping with Lauer to keep her job but it doesn't sound like Lauer had any idea that she wasn't into it
== =
I guessing the news didn't mention bone dry forced anal.

Poor Matt. So unfair.

Wake up

Posted by: Simplemind at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (ZuGkg)

270 Think you're gonna sue us into bankruptcy for natural disasters? We'll show your sorry asses. Hope you like warm beer. Oh, and fuck you, Gavin Newsome, hope your greaseball hairdo catches on fire and you got no water to put it out.

Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (v0R5T)

271 days shining with the peace and harmony of the two party
system aligned for the common good.
Whenever the hell that was.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (gPZ9

1866

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (2DOZq)

272 I'm tired of all the talking and posturing. Probably foolishly but 'm ready for the next level.

I hear what you're sayin and I doubt it will be a sudden thing if it starts. The political scene is the front lines for now. With full contact sniping and backstabbing as the elites fight to be the next savior of the nation. It'll get worse, that much I'm sure.

Posted by: IP at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (gPZ9i)

273 You're only gay if you're the one with the cock in his mouth / ass.

Giddyup!

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (kLDv+)

274 Romney is magic underwear deep in Ukraine and China corruption, his actions must be viewed through that prism.

And to think that someone this unstable and corrupt was the best that the GOP could offer to go against the post turtle.

After 2025, we are doomed.

Maranatha
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 09, 2019 07:10 PM (lD3vL)

Romney is so pathetically predictable and weird he has to have his dick caught in something criminal.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (aCNZ6)

275 After 2025, we are doomed.

Maranatha
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

After 2025, we'll be booger hooking the bang switches.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (hTPJO)

276 Yeah, I'd never thought on it until recently, but it seems that Paid Positions on Board of Director slots are pay offs to people.

Its exactly how the mob worked. You give people who do a good job for you a no-work position somewhere But instead of being a Union rep, you get a government sinecure or a board position on some crooked company.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (KZzsI)

277 >>I guessing the news didn't mention bone dry forced anal.

Bone Dry.

Dry Bone.

potato...potahto

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (F39r6)

278 232

Fuck the Kurds. Bunch of corrupt liars.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 09, 2019 07:08 PM (I34CP)

You're whey out of line.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (NWiLs)

279 Meanwhile Romney is whipping support for impeachment. What the hell is wrong with that man?

Posted by: Liberty at October 09, 2019 06:59 PM (o5fb0)

I don't think many on the left or true right listen to him anymore. I guess he's trying to appeal to the cruise directors of the world. Ahoy!

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

280 The tell that the Tillerson stray voltage is bullshit is that it's fingering Giuliani.

Gee why would a story about Giuliani from two years ago be coming out now?

Total mystery.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (DG/Oc)

281 Hunter and Ukraine wasn't on the radar until this WB complaint (i.e., spy leak).

So we're saying this is another indication that people are running screaming scared about impending revelations from Huber and Durham and trying to get out in front of charges so that it looks like any continuation of long-existing investigations is political backlashing by Trump?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 09, 2019 07:06 PM (M9ntN)

Most Biden info was known before 2019. February 2019, Ukraine reopened the Burisma investigation (maybe they wanted to squeeze Biden, dems). Zelensky was elected in April 2019, and his party won big in parliament in July.

Meaawhile, Mueller went Bust, Barr became unleashed, and FISA IG report in #twoweeks.

They freaked when Biden's named was mentioned.

I am saying that THIS was their only remaining play. They have no power, except to impeach. Mueller failed. So they cobbled this together. That it can be argued as backlash is a side benefit.

They have no choice but impeachment for what Trump appears to be poised to bring down on their heads.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (jYnPD)

282 NBC and Quinnipiac polls show a plurality don't want impeachment.

Posted by: Ha at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (pH6td)

283 Hope you like warm beer. Oh, and fuck you, Gavin Newsome, hope your greaseball hairdo catches on fire and you got no water to put it out.

Posted by: PG&E

Show me - bring down the lights on Dodger Stadium tonight - do it!

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (32YRo)

284 273 You're only gay if you're the one with the cock in his mouth / ass.

Giddyup!
Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (kLDv+)

So, you're a Muslim?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (NWiLs)

285 I can see Romney playing the Jason Bateman role in " Ozark", easily....

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (90T4r)

286 I watch Tucker, but that's it. I tuned in today -
and found that they really, really suck. They have a show called
"Outnumbered." It sucks balls. It's followed by a show featuring Dana
Perino. I couldn't bear to sit through that, and switched back to OAN,
but I can assume it sucks super-mega-ultra balls.

Fox is not cool.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 07:09 PM (JrM+N)

I really rarely watch it at all anymore. I guess I feel I have heard it. Now doubt there are some good people their still. Tucker has been strong and Hannity as well is at least a strong advocate even though he annoys many on his own side. I remember some of the early people being ok like Kilmeade and Doocy back in the day. I just don't tune into it much these days.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (n13/j)

287 253 So, how's that Public Safety Power Outage going?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 09, 2019 06:46 PM (NMAzL)

Let the punishment begin!
Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 07:11 PM (v0R5T)

Bestest part? There are smaller electric companies in the exact same areas, and their power is still on.

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (NgKpN)

288
I don't think many on the left or true right listen to him anymore. I guess he's trying to appeal to the cruise directors of the world. Ahoy!

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 07:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

Really wish Mitch will tell the junior senator from Utah to STFU, dunce.

Posted by: IC at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (a0IVu)

289 Nood, y'all

Posted by: FrodoB, trying to stay away from the O word at October 09, 2019 07:17 PM (RjYVG)

290 >>because it sounds like she was sleeping with Lauer to keep her job but it doesn't sound like Lauer had any idea that she wasn't into it

How about a nice game of corn hole?

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 09, 2019 07:17 PM (2cuLk)

291 By the way, I didn't stick with the Lauer thread but what I read disappointed me.

No one noted that he used surprised anal.

Poor form, Morons, poor form.
===
That is poor reading comprehension on your part . The original story at 100pm or so was loaded with surprise anal. I was giddy.

Posted by: Shep at October 09, 2019 07:17 PM (ZuGkg)

292 Show me - bring down the lights on Dodger Stadium tonight - do it!

Shut down the grid that the blue tooth repeaters are on. Kill that phone network and see what happens. People would be cannibals by morning.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 09, 2019 07:17 PM (KZzsI)

293 Hey Bay Area, how you like them electrical cars now bitches? BWAAAAHAA

Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 07:17 PM (v0R5T)

294 bottom of the 6th, the walls are closing in on the braves

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 09, 2019 07:18 PM (FEQY4)

295 "borders on..."

Lois Lerner continues to enjoy her retirement though she bordered on illegality.show boaters

F*ck all of the showboaters.

Started with that one guy. I can't even remember his name. At least I remember Sam Ervin. From 1973 no less.

Then we had Haircut. That bad ass Gowdy that put so many in the Congressional jail.

Then Nunes.

#notwinning

Posted by: golfman at October 09, 2019 07:18 PM (M3a0a)

296 Bestest part? There are smaller electric companies in the exact same areas, and their power is still on.
Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:16 PM (NgKpN

I thought the smaller companies transfer their power through PG &E lines? That's how it works in Texas.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 07:19 PM (2DOZq)

297 I guessing the news didn't mention bone dry forced anal.

Poor Matt. So unfair.

Wake up

Posted by: Simplemind at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (ZuGkg)

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Thank you!! Finally.
It's not like bone dry anal is easy on my chafed cock.

Posted by: Mat Lauer at October 09, 2019 07:19 PM (pw+jk)

298 I guessing the news didn't mention bone dry forced anal.

Poor Matt. So unfair.

Wake up
Posted by: Simplemind at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (ZuGkg)

after which she continues on to a long affair with Lauer

it's an insult to women who are actually raped, actually coerced, and even actual prostitutes
doing years of quim pro quo then acting all alas poor innocent moi afterwards is just

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 07:19 PM (G546f)

299 They still have not explained why WB1 was in fear for his life

It's the only way we could make him talk!

Posted by: The DNC at October 09, 2019 07:19 PM (cfSLd)

300 Biden and his son aren't even the most important thing that is going to come out of Ukraine.

Crowdstrike. the server.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (ZLI7S)

Yep. Maybe Biden was thrown under the bus by the WB in orderl to distract from this?
I remember from the transcript - Crowdstrik is what Trump focused on- not the Ukraine's years long investigation into Biden.

Did the fake WB even mention Crowdstrike in his fake complaint?

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 07:19 PM (Ed8Zd)

301 >>Romney's kid, Kerry's kid and Bolger's kid (whitney's bro another dem operative) ALL HAD THE SAME DEAL WITH BARISMA as Biden's kid.

Which Romney kid?

Tagg started Solamere Capital in 2009 and then Mitt joined the company in 2012 after he lost the election. They do business with venture capitalists re: government contracts, business overseas. It's like these politicians' offspring set themselves up as middlemen/facilitators of deals made possible by daddy's or mommy's political work.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2019 07:20 PM (bDqIh)

302 Not without a shit ton of iron cages, streets lined with impaled bodies, and a smoldering media.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 07:13 PM (9Om/r)

Stop. Just stop whispering these things in my ear. I am a happily married mayhem.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 09, 2019 07:20 PM (myjNJ)

303 saw that Jennifer Griffin thing, and yes she's one the better ones, but her operator's anguish just doesn't wash with me.

There was a common fight against ISIS, which the Kurds [and others] were doing for their own purposes - we joined in and helped.

There are completely unrelated dynamics between Turkey and the Kurdish militias that are not of interest to us. For now we have just decided to not keep a small # of operators in a limited border zone, a prudent move.

The mass hysteria among people like those Griffin talked to, and policy types, is kind of amazing, and uniformly ignores basic questions. Mainly - OK so there's a Turkish operation in a border zone. Normal force protection would call for us to retaliate against forces endangering our guys - as a Russian contact military unit learned to its sorrow.

These people want us to fight Turkey, on the Turkish border, to preserve the status quo there - which is fairly effed up and a result of the years of war in Syria? WTF? THAT is the practical, actual issue here. Not emotional ties and [eye roll] "credibility" etc etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 07:20 PM (QDnY+)

304 Fox blows in the day - between that fat giggler Cavuto, the iron mascara sheik Shep, and Dana "oh noes! who could be possibly right?" Perino, its knuckleheads all around in the daytime - glad I have a job.

The Five is fine with Gutfeld and Watters and Tucker is spot on - especially if Mark Steyn is there - but Shannon Bream is a complete moron and Hannity is...well, Hannity.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:21 PM (32YRo)

305 btw. I think Lauer is a total perv
but they deserve each other

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 07:21 PM (G546f)

306 there must be a PO Box for anonymous whistleblowers
that must be where the death threats are getting sent to

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 07:22 PM (G546f)

307 Crowdstrike. the server.

Posted by: JackStraw

That's the take away from the Zelensky call - Trump seemed to give a rats ass about the Biden thing really, he knows the CrowdStrike thing is where the corruption happened...

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:23 PM (32YRo)

308 Romney's kid, Kerry's kid and Bolger's kid (whitney's bro another dem operative) ALL HAD THE SAME DEAL WITH BARISMA as Biden's kid.
Posted by: dagny at October 09, 2019 07:05 PM (nRWPy)

Yeah, I'd never thought on it until recently, but it seems that Paid Positions on Board of Director slots are pay offs to people.

What in the hell does Paul Ryan know about News? (FoxNews)

What the hell does Susan Rice know about TVs and Movies? (Netflix)
Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (NgKpN)

Easier to not sit on a board than it is to pretend to write a book and have your patron stuff a warehouse with them.

But they are working on selling a million e-books on line with a single purchase.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 09, 2019 07:23 PM (1g7ch)

309 Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2019 07:20 PM (QDnY+)

Agree with what he did or not, Trump gave Erdogan the green light for the invasion which Turkey would not have done otherwise.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 07:23 PM (2DOZq)

310 Susan Rice called Trump's children corrupt.

Should sue the black off that bitch

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 07:25 PM (AQBtr)

311 Hillary's pelvic floor?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at October 09, 2019 06:36 PM (JcXHH)

............

One step lower....Hillary pessary. Google it.

Posted by: Molly k. at October 09, 2019 07:27 PM (C1NuF)

312 Agree with what he did or not, Trump gave Erdogan the green light for the invasion which Turkey would not have done otherwise.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming

Then fund the Syrian Kurds and give them hardware - but a no-fly zone the US has to enforce against someone you're not willing to kick out of NATO - no thanks.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:28 PM (32YRo)

313
Anyone else feel like they're in a race?

Is Barr gonna actually do something before impeachment?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile

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I don't see how he has time. The Dems know this is a race. For Barr, it's a process.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 09, 2019 07:28 PM (M9ntN)

314 http://bit.ly/2AZQd68
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Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 07:29 PM (BqBId)

315 272 I'm tired of all the talking and posturing. Probably foolishly but 'm ready for the next level.

The problem with any post-political move is that the FBI and DoJ will snap into action. Suddenly, instead of lying and lazing and opting not to prosecute, we'll see the rank and file really kick some ass to protect the deep state. You know, that rank and file that are honest... not the few bad apples. Fire them all and start over. We'd be better off undefended by these f**ks than having them supposedly on our side.

Posted by: Lawrence L at October 09, 2019 07:31 PM (Uu7xZ)

316 What the hell does Susan Rice know about TVs and Movies? (Netflix)

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 07:14 PM (NgKpN)

Good point and it gives me an idea.

"So Sue let's take a quiz about movies!"

"What do I get out of it?"

"If you win, you keep your cushy position."

"And if I lose?"

"I cut off one of your hands."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 09, 2019 07:33 PM (j3npP)

317 This whole Turkey/Syrian Kurds thing is just a pile of shit that the US should not get involved in, period.

Firstly, they are not Iranian Kurds and there is a distinction - particularly in who has helped us in the past during the Iraq War and who is now got their paws out.

Secondly, Turkey is a NATO member that no one in Europe has the balls to kick out - they are already cozying up to Putin, so WTF? I think we'd do it if the Euro Trash were screaming for it, but they're cowards like that. Now we have to defend a non-ally against a NATO member that the Europeans have no balls to rein in - forget that. This is just a potential waste of military airpower and pilots if they get shot down. Turkey will back down and wait, what, a year? Then start all over again...just fund the Syrian Kurds and wish them luck - at least until the Euro Trash come on board. Which, I predict, will never happen.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:45 PM (32YRo)

318 I meant to say Iraqi Kurds before not Iranian - they offered a lot of assistance in the Iraqi War and I think we still continue to keep Turkey out of their hair.

Posted by: Boswell at October 09, 2019 07:49 PM (32YRo)

319 And tying into a previous discussion, shifty unscrupulous lawyers should face quick and efficient capital punishment as well!

Posted by: Achromatic refuse at October 09, 2019 08:03 PM (Hdg8X)

320 The bar association in his State needs a whole bunch of reports. His threat is not only illegal but violates the ethical standards of conduct for attorneys.

Posted by: Notforpublicviewing at October 09, 2019 09:17 PM (yJy4c)

321 Dear Senator Cotton:

I politely yet firmly suggest that obstruction is not the only offense here. I suggest you add charges of dereliction.

Sincerely,
A. Normal Citizen, esq.

Posted by: Nobody Important at October 09, 2019 09:44 PM (Ezw/y)

322 "decarceration"...god, I loathe their wurds. That's as bad as "allyship".

Posted by: Thirdtwin at October 09, 2019 11:52 PM (MMJ/U)

323 That cunt Gabrial Malor in is ever lasting quest to damage Trump and ignore all things democrat told me this was perfectly all legal and is common practice.

What a cunt.

Posted by: MSM at October 10, 2019 07:15 AM (7NSrk)

324 PG and E = Wreckers

Must be destroyed.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2019 07:26 AM (EIi4N)

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