Mid-Morning Art Thread [Kris]

Composition In Red, Blue And Yellow
Piet Mondrian

“There is an old and a new consciousness of time. The old is connected with the individual. The new is connected with the universal. The struggle of the individual against the universal is revealing itself in the world-war as well as in the art of the present day.”

These are the first words of the first manifesto of “The Style to End All Styles”, more commonly known as de Stijl, written in 1918 as World War I was still raging. The War was an apocalypse and European artists dealt with this cataclysm by developing socialist utopianist movements: Russia developed Constructivism, Suprematism, and Socialist Realism; America had Regionalism, and the Dutch formed de Stijl. De Stijl’s basic idea was to follow in the War’s footsteps by destroying the traditions that allowed the War to happen, to create an art that united Mankind using the most basic and universal elements of art. It removed symbolism and meaning that only spoke to a few and replaced it with a new “global” symbolism. This art is very communistic in its philosophies but I don’t know if all these artists were full-blown Communists.

Evolving out of Cubism, de Stijl is absolutely abstract, reducing art to geometric shapes, primary colors, and basic tones. De Stijl artists would reject the abstract label, however. They would say that there is nothing more concrete than the universal elements. These are the most real because everyone knows them and recognizes them for what they are. It stimulates the most primal human emotions and unifies Man at the most elementary level.

In this work by Mondrian, composition is the most important element of style. He is taking the most basic colors and forms and trying to find the most perfect balance between them. He uses the primary colors, simple black and white, and basic geometric shapes (and only quadrangles cuz curves are too wild). The lines are just vertical and horizontals. From these fundamentals all the other elements of style are created; they are the atoms of artistic creation.

The hues are pure. Red is the most vivid and has a lot of weight. Yellow is the brightest but has the least weight. Blue is heavy and vivid and bright. Blue and red counteract each other’s vividness, but because blue has the most of all three traits it must be smaller than red for balance. Yellow must be even smaller because even though it is very light, it is very bright. If it were any bigger, its brightness would be too distracting.

White should be seen as the background upon which everything rests. The black lines break up this blankness into clean squares into which the primaries are arranged. Eliminate one black line, or make them thinner than they are, and the white becomes dominant. They also form a grid upon which everything is logically arranged and which ties everything together.

De Stijl was not just an art style, it was a way of life. De Stijl infused art, design and architecture with the ideas of logical arrangements of basic, universal elements. The idea was to surround yourself with objects so perfectly balanced, with complimentary ideas at perfect peace that it would bring peace and balance to your life and mind. If enough people did this, then society itself would be at absolute peace. It was called “The Style to End All Styles” because when its mission was achieved, art would no longer be needed. In this work, Mondrian creates a Western version of the yin/yang—opposites in perfect balance, complimenting each other while in constant, dynamic movement.

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 09:29 AM (q80AH)

2 Huh?

Posted by: Vic at October 09, 2019 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

3 Drunks built the Hollywood Squares set?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (Cil7w)

4
I prefer, for lack of a better word, Fritz Glarner's relational paintings.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (zBaqJ)

5 Close up of Rubik's Cube.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (FTlwv)

6 Tile designer.

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (X/Pw5)

7 Let's face it, what really has the Deep State and globalist frothing and murderously mad at Trump and trying to destroy him is his America First Agenda.

Here is Trumps agenda distilled....

Make the US energy independent
Move as much US manufacturing back to the US.
Limit immigration.
Make our allies live up to their obligations.
Make Trade fair for the US.
End The Forever War.

Fuck it if that isn't an agenda a true American can't get behind.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (Ad3Y8)

8 More evidence that WWI broke Europe in ways that it never recovered from.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (N4xQB)

9 Already? But I'm not done with the Morning Report!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (ECrgQ)

10 AOC's brain scan.

Posted by: dingbat at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (CCi0x)

11 There reportedly has
been a run on the banks in China the last 2 days. The Commies responded
by drastically reducing cash you can take out in a single transaction.

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 09:32 AM (3aI0K)

12 Square.

Posted by: Someguy at October 09, 2019 09:32 AM (6GjnW)

13 Dress print from the 1970's. Have pictures to prove it.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at October 09, 2019 09:32 AM (ECrgQ)

14 Eliminate one black line, or make them thinner than they are, and the white becomes dominant.

White privilege apparently isn't a modern construct, then.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 09:33 AM (DMUuz)

15 Art speaks to the soul. If you have to explain why it's art, then it isn't art.

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 09:33 AM (7HtZB)

16
*weeps with joy*

What is the Sistine Chapel next to genius like this? Who is Rembrandt? A mere dauber!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 09:33 AM (7rVsF)

17 Until that one day when this lady met this fellow...

Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (ZfRYq)

18 This reminds me of a nice upscale bathroom floor from an artistically designed house in the 1930's.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (V2Yro)

19 SCREAM AND LEAP!

Well, actually, not on Mondrian. His work is instantly recognizable. As I recall, in at least one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see a Mondrian painting hanging on the wall of Mr. Data's quarters. Good call; you'd imagine that's what an android would prefer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (ClOmq)

20
Now, however, there is word of more evidence of possible bias on the
whistleblower's part. Under questioning from Republicans during last
Friday's impeachment inquiry interview with Atkinson, the inspector
general revealed that the whistleblower's possible bias was not that he
was simply a registered Democrat. It was that he had a significant tie
to one of the Democratic presidential candidates currently vying to
challenge President Trump in next year's election.

"The IG said [the whistleblower] worked or had some type of
professional relationship with one of the Democratic candidates," said
one person with knowledge of what was said.

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (3aI0K)

21 The Partridge Family.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (n13/j)

22 At is in the eye of the beholder... However whoever thinks this is art is obviously blind

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (O2RFr)

23 Is it wrong to think that Mondrian was merely trying to deconstruct plaid?

This one I will be generous and identify as deconstructed Royal Stewart tartan.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (xG/b0)

24 Composition In Red, Blue And Yellow

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He forgot black.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (+y/Ru)

25 Looks like the same idea as that wall at the bottom of the Brady house stairs.

Just different colors.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (cqNba)

26 Modern art is the equivalent of coming in at 3 am and your wife is awake

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 09:34 AM (AQBtr)

27 Shelf liner/contact paper.

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:35 AM (X/Pw5)

28 22 At is in the eye of the beholder... However whoever thinks this is art is obviously blind

LOL art not at

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 09:35 AM (O2RFr)

29 The width of the black lines is just becaue that's how much tile grout he needed to use. If you wanted to introduce a circular element, you could move the painter's field of vision over closer to the commode.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 09:35 AM (V2Yro)

30 Willowed:

In Baltimore, most folk upset at schools being closed are because now they have to find something to feed the kids.

-

At some point we really need to figure out where all the food stamp dollars are disappearing to.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 09, 2019 09:35 AM (3Cuau)

31 8
More evidence that WWI broke Europe in ways that it never recovered from.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (N4xQB)

GB never fully recovered from WWI and it began the process of eliminating the political control of the "Gentry". Then WWII came in and really destroyed what was left. Of course loosing all her colonies didn't help either.

Posted by: Vic at October 09, 2019 09:35 AM (mpXpK)

32 Just one or two happy little bushes aren't going to save this one.

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at October 09, 2019 09:36 AM (DMUuz)

33 The crux of Minimalism is - never get out of your own head.

NTTAWWT

I wanted to move a comment over from the old thread:

In Baltimore, most folk upset at schools being closed are because now they have to find something to feed the kids.

We have a situation in Third-World Philly where some schools are so deteriorated and full of asbestos that they must be closed for repair. OMG the wailing! "Parents" (moms and grandma's) are losing their minds. They have to watch the kids! It's the end of the world - they're ready to tar and feather the Philly School Commish (not that he doesn't deserve it anyway).

This thing in Cali is going to be UGLY. there's no way they can keep ALL the schools open. and the ones least likely to have generators of enough capacity are going to be the low-end schools.

kids are literally going to starve I'm not even kidding about that

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfCollusion at October 09, 2019 09:36 AM (Rarvo)

34 Trump is our Pinochet-lite. Throwing Dems from helicopters but only 50 feet up or so. They'll get real a Pinochet if they keep this shit up.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2019 09:36 AM (MxEKc)

35 Spent about as much time with a Rubik's cube as I did video games back in the day, and that was zero. Always marveled at friends blowing their money on games and spinning that plastic puzzle every which way endlessly.

Posted by: JROD at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (vW8Mk)

36 "That's the way we became the Brady Bunch."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (vA4O3)

37 I've hated this painting since I was a little boy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (5aX2M)

38 Meh. I like the colors. That's about it.

Posted by: bluebell at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (aXucN)

39 What was his next work....polka dots?

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (X/Pw5)

40 I'm assuming the quote in the gray box was serious and not parody, but I'm afraid it is incomprehensible to me. It reads exactly like some academic paper from today meant to be used to obtain grant money and nothing else.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (kUmUV)

41 ..and what! Am I chopped liver?!

Posted by: Burnt Umber at October 09, 2019 09:38 AM (7x44e)

42 I think I stayed at hotel in LA about 30 years ago called the Mondrian

I think that little Austrian had a good place to eat there.

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 09:38 AM (AQBtr)

43 A representation of di Blasio's plan for the NYC school system.

Posted by: Al Crapton at October 09, 2019 09:38 AM (GlmxK)

44 There reportedly has

been a run on the banks in China the last 2 days. The Commies responded

by drastically reducing cash you can take out in a single transaction.\
Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 09:32 AM (3aI0K)

Bank runs tend to be an indication of overvaluation of currency and fear that the banks have more liabilities than they have assets to cover.
It is always scary to see this go, because that is how all banks operate all the time.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2019 09:38 AM (xG/b0)

45 Uh... no. Just, no.

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (DU2N9)

46
The black lines break up this blankness into clean squares into which the primaries are arranged.

Sounds like the DNC nominating process.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (7rVsF)

47 ok so our "whistle-blower" was a direct report to...

James Clapper

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfCollusion at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (Rarvo)

48 Saw this everywhere when I was a real live boy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (HaL55)

49 Sean Davis twitter says fake WB worked for Clapper!!!

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (Ed8Zd)

50 ..and what! Am I chopped liver?!
Posted by: Burnt Umber at October 09, 2019 09:38 AM

At least you're not tartare!

Posted by: Raw Umber at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (DMUuz)

51 > This one I will be generous and identify as deconstructed Royal Stewart tartan.

If there were a Scottish clan made up of gay Dutchmen, this would be their tartan.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (vA4O3)

52 "In Baltimore, most folk upset at schools being closed are because now they have to find something to feed the kids."

And take care of them and keep them out of trouble. Maybe there is emergency day care available for the little dears.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (MxEKc)

53 Booorrring.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2019 09:39 AM (88xKn)

54
Embiggening doesn't help it much.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 09, 2019 09:40 AM (88+cf)

55 Had to go take a look if Ellen and Portia DeRossi were still clackin' clams. Looked at her Instagram and yep, they're still a thing. Had to laugh at one pic of Portia wearing a shirt that said, Meat Free....wonder what meat shes talking about?

Posted by: JROD at October 09, 2019 09:40 AM (vW8Mk)

56 In the 40s, 50s, and 60s, we saw hundreds of beautiful old buildings pulled down and replaced by what amounted to concrete blockhouses

--

Go drive through old neighborhoods in large cities. Beautiful old well-kept two and three story homes in million dollar neighborhoods within the city limits are being destroyed to put up huge glass cubes with slightly smaller glass cubes on the top.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 09, 2019 09:40 AM (3Cuau)

57 > "In Baltimore, most folk upset at schools being closed are because now they have to find something to feed the kids."

> And take care of them and keep them out of trouble.

"That's not how this works, see? I do my job by pumping out kids. The gubbmint does its job by feeding them and watching them."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 09, 2019 09:41 AM (vA4O3)

58 "There is an old and a new consciousness of time. The old is connected
with the individual. The new is connected with the universal. The
struggle of the individual against the universal is revealing itself in
the world-war as well as in the art of the present day."

Well, when you insist that you have no grounding, no unification with your fellow human beings, beyond "reason" then you can talk yourself into damn-near anything, rationalize it to the nth-degree, and still end up with... nothing.

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 09:41 AM (DU2N9)

59 I'd value it somewhere south of twelve bucks.

Posted by: klaftern at October 09, 2019 09:42 AM (RuIsu)

60 There reportedly has

been a run on the banks in China the last 2 days. The Commies responded

by drastically reducing cash you can take out in a single transaction.\
Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 09:32 AM (3aI0K)

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James Clavell's "Noble House" had a great anecdote about doing business in that part of the world. People were waiting in line at a Hong Kong bus stop next to a bank. A passerby saw them and wrongly assumed it was a bank run. The rumor quickly spread, causing people to run to the bank and start an actual bank run.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 09, 2019 09:42 AM (N4xQB)

61 Kris, thank you. You've quite literally opened my eyes to see this painting in a completely new way. I appreciate the explanation of De Stijl.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (DMUuz)

62 59 I'd value it somewhere south of twelve bucks.

You're being generous.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (88xKn)

63 Partridge Family's Bus

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (u//oP)

64 "In Baltimore, most folk upset at schools being closed are because now they have to find something to feed the kids."

Can't they eat the rats?

/with apologies to Jonathan Swift

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (7HtZB)

65 Here is Trumps agenda distilled....

Make the US energy independent
Move as much US manufacturing back to the US.
Limit immigration.
Make our allies live up to their obligations.
Make Trade fair for the US.
End The Forever War.

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Taking his marbles and going home.

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East. Moved our 50 soldiers out. Turkey MUST take over captured ISIS fighters that Europe refused to have returned. The stupid endless wars, for us, are ending!

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More at the link.

https://bit.ly/322FUdh

I supported the war. I'm not that it was a mistake. We gave them a chance to be civilized human beings but they have shown us that they would rather be Islamic savages. They will not become civilized in the foreseeable future. It's time to let them wallow in their savagery.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

66 So the whistle blower was working in the White House as a spy for James Clapper?

Gina Haspel, you've got some explaining to do.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (Ad3Y8)

67 This aint art. It takes no skill or discipline to do this. A 4th grader can do this. We need to reclaim art and stop pushing the notion that 'anything can be art.' Art takes skill, talent, practice. Its a trade, like being a welder, a blacksmith, a framer. Years are spent perfecting the eye, the brush strokes, the medium. It is not an emotional tantrum thrown on a canvas like some muscle spasm.

Posted by: lloyd sharp at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (BKHPL)

68 40 I'm assuming the quote in the gray box was serious and not parody, but I'm afraid it is incomprehensible to me. It reads exactly like some academic paper from today meant to be used to obtain grant money and nothing else.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 09, 2019 09:37 AM (kUmUV)

The artistic manifestos from this era are... something else. My *favorite* is DADA.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (OyyDO)

69 look if Ellen and Portia DeRossi were still clackin' clams.

I believe clam clacking is heard not seen

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (AQBtr)

70 You have to be kidding me! J.J.'s Morning Report got shoved aside (after less than two hours) for this?!?

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (7JIKD)

71 It's hip to be square

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 09, 2019 09:44 AM (xPl2J)

72 70 You have to be kidding me! J.J.'s Morning Report got shoved aside (after less than two hours) for this?!?
Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (7JIKD)

==========

Schedules were followed?!?!

The horror!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (q80AH)

73 I seek out Mondrian paintings whenever I'm visiting another city's art museum. His work is wide open to criticism on a dozen different levels, sure, but he accomplished something only a very few achieve: one glance at a wall of paintings and you can instantly tell his work from all the others, whether you like his work or not. That's a significant professional achievement. Finding one's own vision and imprinting it on thousands (millions?) of people is an artist's dream.

Posted by: troyriser at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (mSO8Y)

74
Deep Thoughts - a limerick

The Stijl? That's a nice enough label
For a cloth you might put on a table
But a thousand words of preening
To discuss it's deeper meaning
Is the same as contemplating your navel

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (mvenn)

75 OT: If you are thinking of trying CBD oil or cream, where should you go? If the shop has "dispensary" in its name, how do you know it is what it says it is, and that the products are solid stuff?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (ClOmq)

76 Are your clams clackin' or are you just glad to see me?

Posted by: P0rsche DeRossi at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (u//oP)

77 Don't know why this song is stuck in my head today. Even the alphabet song isn't getting rid of it.

Well the eagle's been flying slow
And the flag's been flying low
And a lot of people saying that America's fixing to fall
Well speaking just for me
And some people from Tennessee
We've got a thing or two to tell you all
This lady may have stumbled
But she ain't never fell
And if the Russians don't believe that
They can all go straight to hell
We're gonna put her feet back
On the path of righteousness and then
God bless America again

I don't even like country music. And! My brain keeps rotating China and Iran with Russians

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (myjNJ)

78 my kid coulda painted this...

(if's i'd ever had a kid)

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (/Dd+E)

79 We'll pass

Posted by: Antique Roadshow at October 09, 2019 09:46 AM (cqNba)

80 70: That's for shitsure!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 09, 2019 09:46 AM (KP5rU)

81 because when its mission was achieved, art would no longer be needed"

So they're nuts.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 09:46 AM (6qErC)

82 More evidence that WWI broke Europe in ways that it never recovered from.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 09, 2019 09:31 AM (N4xQB)

They might have recovered, had not WW2 followed so hotly on its heels.

Two generations of the best and brightest men were lost, leaving the cowards, cravens, and the effeminate vastly overrepresented in society. They took their chance to launch an assault on traditional masculinity, blaming it for the wars... and the whole character of civilization changed.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 09, 2019 09:47 AM (J+mig)

83 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (ClOmq)

If you're in a state where weed is legal, the CBD products should be lab tested as well, and the percentages printed on the label. That's how they do it here in CO.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 09, 2019 09:47 AM (u//oP)

84 OT: If you are thinking of trying CBD oil or cream, where should you go? If the shop has "dispensary" in its name, how do you know it is what it says it is, and that the products are solid stuff?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (ClOmq)

Get the cops to test it for you.

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:47 AM (X/Pw5)

85 Wolfus Aurelius, look for the brand name. Colorado Cures CBD Salve is wonderful if you can find it.

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 09:47 AM (7JIKD)

86 A painting like that needs to hang on a wall above the shag carpeting.

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2019 09:47 AM (cD09y)

87 I supported the war. I'm not that it was a mistake. We gave them a chance to be civilized human beings but they have shown us that they would rather be Islamic savages. They will not become civilized in the foreseeable future. It's time to let them wallow in their savagery.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

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I can totally understand supporting the war at the time. Bringing democracy to the Middle East was something that hadn't really been tried before, and the conventional wisdom at the time was that our support for regimes like Mubarak and the Saudis was a big part of "why they hate us."

But if you still think today that bringing democracy to the Middle East is a good idea, then you are no better than the people who claim that "real communism hasn't been tried yet."

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 09, 2019 09:47 AM (N4xQB)

88 Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds
of years. USA should never have been in Middle East. Moved our 50
soldiers out. Turkey MUST take over captured ISIS fighters that Europe
refused to have returned. The stupid endless wars, for us, are ending!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

And right on cue, the WSJ - always happy to send other peoples' kids off to die in never-ending overseas wars - is gleefully announcing that Turkey has launched "an offensive" against the Kurds.

But sure, let's continue to pour trillions of dollars into our "friends" in Corporate America, because they of course have "our" best interests at heart.

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (DU2N9)

89 I love the contrast between the shadow under the trees, and the animals frolicking in the foreground.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (cqNba)

90 It's telling when the explanation is far far more interesting than the work itself.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (vWMNq)

91 Oh, federalist article says WB attorney , not WB himself, worked for Clapper.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (Ed8Zd)

92 Look ma, I painted a stained glass window. Poorly.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (H5knJ)

93 Kris, That's a fine precis of the rationale of those artists. I understand their thoughts on art and, by extension, improving humanity. I don't agree with it and it reminds me of every other utopian approach that never works.

This back to basics attitude ignores the complexity of social interaction, i.e., people. It also ignores human pleasure taken in complex, interwoven curves such as Celtic crosses, and even cave paintings.

This approach to art and living is easy to understand given the time. Easy to understand doesn't make it less pretentious or presumptious.

However, there can be power in stark images and this Modrian is an example. Your explanation shows why.

Posted by: JTB at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (bmdz3)

94 animals frolicking in the foreground"

Wrong verb

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 09:49 AM (6qErC)

95 We need to reclaim art and stop pushing the notion that 'anything can be art.' Art takes skill, talent, practice. Its a trade, like being a welder, a blacksmith, a framer. Years are spent perfecting the eye, the brush strokes, the medium. It is not an emotional tantrum thrown on a canvas like some muscle spasm.
Posted by: lloyd sharp at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (BKHPL)

I've seen examples of his early work in museums and books. Mondrian was a skilled representational artist when he chose to be. He would also agree with you 'not everything can be art'. All of his work was planned exhaustively beforehand. His approach was studied and disciplined. That you don't agree with his approach or his ideas is perfectly fine, but what he isn't is lazy or unskilled.

Posted by: troyriser at October 09, 2019 09:49 AM (mSO8Y)

96 I can't wait to go down to DC and attend the Left's latest Anti-Peace Rally.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2019 09:49 AM (cqNba)

97
91 Oh, federalist article says WB attorney , not WB himself, worked for Clapper.

ooooh never mind then! that's what I get for only reading headlines (on twitter)

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfCollusion at October 09, 2019 09:49 AM (Rarvo)

98 >>OT: If you are thinking of trying CBD oil or cream, where should you go?

I saw a guy with a cart selling it down by the river. Looked identical to the dude in the Wizard of Oz who was talking to that girl with the dog.

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2019 09:49 AM (cD09y)

99 Dammit, willowed again. But after all the trouble I took to write this, I'm not letting it slide this time...

This is why those that championing x, y, or z who they claim "discovered" the New World before Columbus annoy me. They are missing the the
point. They can't see the forest for the trees. It doesn't matter if some other guy was first. What matters is that Columbus brought the New
World to the attention of the Old World. That is it, that is the whole shebang. It was what resulted from his discovery. Maybe someone else
did come first, but that person did not change the world.

You see these people today bashing Columbus Day. They won't even say the name of the holiday. Some are impudent enough to call it Indigenous
People's Day. Funny, they only care about natives on Columbus Day. Why don't they campaign for a new holiday that stands on its own? .

I am all for a day celebrating native Americans. But be for real about it, celebrate them. Don't give me this lefty crap about pretending to care when you don't. The left hates Columbus Day for the same reasons they hate Independence Day, Flag Day, and others. What they lament is us.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 08:32 AM (n13/j)

Wait a minute. What "indigenous peoples"? The so-called "Indians", a la Fauxcahontas? They are no more "indigenous" to this continent that our ancestors were. They just came over sooner (by about 25,000 years), across the land bridge from Asia which existed back then. Also, there is some circumstantial evidence that SOMEONE was living on this continent BEFORE the so-called "native Americans" showed up. What happened to them? Nothing good, I'm sure.

And when you get down to it, Columbus was the one to truly discover the Americas, no one else. Sure, the Vikings showed up here (as far south as Newfoundland, anyway) a few hundred years before, but they didn't stick around. They ended up going back home.

And there is some circumstantial evidence that at some point in the past some Polynesians and possibly some Chinese or Japanese made it to these shores in the remote past. But again, there was no follow up. They came, they saw, and then went home or died out. That was it.

And then there is the "big picture", which these suckers of zombie Howard Zinn cock don't get (amazing how little history historians nowadays know). Throughout human history there have been mass migrations. Large numbers of humans moving from one place, usually motivated by war, disease, famine or overcrowding, to another, generally to a region that was sparsely populated, if at all. And if it was populated, one side would win out over the other, the side that was the most driven, organized and motivated. It has been ever thus, regardless of race, creed, color or hat size. And make no mistake. Had the "natives" been able to get organized and work together, they could have easily driven the Europeans back into the sea. But they didn't; they were too busy killing, raping and enslaving each other to get their shit together, as it were, and so the Europeans moved right in.

As an aside, when I was 15 I dated a girl named Eva, who was full blooded Cherokee, not like that lying twat Warren. She was the real deal. And for someone whose people were supposed to have been "genocided", she seems pretty damned frisky to me. (Had really cute dimples too...

They can spout what they want about "Columbus didn't discover America". Bullshit. Yes he did, because no matter who might have accidentally washed ashore here 500 or a thousand years before, Columbus was the ONLY one to went back and told the world, "Look what I found", and followed up with colonization, again, as had been going on ever since we climbed down out of the trees. So yet again, the socialists are lying, as usual. LOLGF...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 09:50 AM (p0pYQ)

100 Hey Hey

Ho Ho

Love and peace have got to go!!!

:The Left

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2019 09:50 AM (cqNba)

101 Look ma, I painted a stained glass window. Poorly.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (H5knJ)

Well you can just get up there and un-paint that window, young man.

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:50 AM (X/Pw5)

102 want Hedy

want van Honthorst

now

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 09:51 AM (AQBtr)

103 want Hedy"

That's Headley!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (6qErC)

104 Reports of airstrikes by the Turks on Kurdish positions in Syria. I guess Trump's threat to "destroy the Turkish economy" didn't work. I'm shocked.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (VpIIl)

105 Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 09:50 AM

Dude or dudette, Ben Had has been trying to reach you.

About what, I can't comet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (DMUuz)

106 House Dem: We're Going To Pass Gun Control And Climate Bills While Impeaching Trump

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Now there's a winning argument if I ever heard one!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 09, 2019 09:53 AM (+y/Ru)

107 I'm not kidding when I said de Stijl was a lifestyle. There was an entire de Stijl design/architecture aesthetic. Imagine this painting translated into a house with furniture.

House
https://tinyurl.com/yxo8dxbd

Chair
https://tinyurl.com/y2qnureb

Surround yourself with these objects and the logic, order and balance will infuse your life... like osmosis or something.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 09:53 AM (OyyDO)

108 I like some of de Stijl's design, but the art leaves me cold. Yes, abstraction, there it is being abstract. WWI destroyed so much and beauty in art seems to be one of those things it eradicated, with some notable exceptions.

Welcome to Wednesday Horde. Survive as best you can.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 09, 2019 09:54 AM (RD7QR)

109 107 Surround yourself with these objects and the logic, order and balance will infuse your life... like osmosis or something.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 09:53 AM (OyyDO)

=========

I can imagine surrounding myself by an ugly house filled with ugly furniture and becoming hate filled towards all of humanity enough to want to steal their freedom, sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 09:54 AM (q80AH)

110 completely OT

this is an old (4 years?) clip of stand up comic Jeff Allen talking about how he became a Christian after being an atheist- a painful story told with humor, it's almost 20 minutes long

It was an open tab on my kindl e fore for 3 days before I played it, but now I'm glad I did

https://youtu.be/svBV3r-3ono

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 09:54 AM (G546f)

111
I'd value it somewhere south of twelve bucks.

Technical skill: $12
Artistic chutzpah: Priceless

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 09:54 AM (7rVsF)

112 Modern art isn't. This is only one step removed from Pollack, which is indistinguishable from a soiled smock.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at October 09, 2019 09:55 AM (UfRqq)

113 As always, Kris, thank you for your wonderful analysis, not only of the painting, but of the art movement behind its creation!

I've never been a fan of "abstract" art, just from a personal aesthetic, but knowing more about the school of thought behind such art certainly helps me better appreciate it. It makes sense that a world being torn apart by the messy chaos of WWI would gravitate to the simplicity and solidity of basic colors and clean, geometric shapes.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 09:55 AM (rP4OC)

114 @104

The reports of air strikes are FUD, there has been fighting going on along the border forever.

It's the same play the last time Trump wanted to move troops out of Syria, suddenly a "chemical attack" materializes out of no where.

There's always a contrived reason to get us to stay in the meat grinder.

It's bullshit.

We need to end the forever wars NOW!!!

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 09:55 AM (Ad3Y8)

115 abstract art like this I tend to regard as interior decoration - there may be meaning to it but I really don't care

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (G546f)

116 Surround yourself with these objects and the logic, order and balance will infuse your life... like osmosis or something.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 09:53 AM (OyyDO)

especially if the paint ain't dry

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (X/Pw5)

117 114 We need to end the forever wars NOW!!!
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 09:55 AM (Ad3Y

=========

I'll take an adaptation of The Forever War, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (q80AH)

118 madammayhem, here try this to fix the earworm.

Some CDB at the peak of their power-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTZ-qP3hOkE

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (HaL55)

119 The reports of air strikes are FUD, there has been fighting going on along the border forever.

correct

the Kurds will always spout this shit when politically expedient they are useless

the whole "oh honorable kurd allies" thing is BS also

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfCollusion at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (Rarvo)

120 Lawrence of Arabia, "and this is why you will always remain little people!"

Omar Shariff had just shot Peter O'Toole's local guide because of a tribal feud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (Cil7w)

121 Don't care one way or another about this painting. Boring. Not art.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (RfzVr)

122 I can imagine surrounding myself by an ugly house filled with ugly furniture and becoming hate filled towards all of humanity enough to want to steal their freedom, sure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 09:54 AM (q80AH)

this explains why there is so much hate in the US

ever taken a good look at houses and furniture lately

kant even

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (AQBtr)

123 2 inches of snow on the ground this morning.

Global Warming....LOLGF!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM (FiUMj)

124 The analysis makes it sound like feng shui meets art.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM (H5knJ)

125 We need to end the forever wars NOW!!!
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin

Are forever wars like the post office's forever stamps?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM (Ol/Jg)

126 I think we agree here. Columbus Day is a celebration of the nation and what we have become. Those that bash the holiday can pick and choose ways to criticize it but their goal, in the end, is the degrade America. I have always supported Columbus Day and made a point of it. Another holiday that get's short shrift is Washigton's Birthday. That is the name of the federal holiday and nothing the car dealers say can change that. But i would guess 70 percent of the nation doesn't know the name of their own holiday.
i have seen state government's in official correspondence call it "President's Day" when it is neither a holiday recognized by the state nor the federal government. It is subtraction by addition. We subtract from the meaning of George Washington's Birthday by lumping in Bill Clinton and LBJ. It is by design and mostly they have won.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM (n13/j)

127 So I need help with a moral dilemma.

My carport needs to be re-roofed. There's a crew across the road working on a house. I've been watching and listening (you can tell a lot about a man's work by listening to it) for several days and they're doing an excellent job. So I stopped the other day and asked them for the number of their boss to get an estimate. Their English was almost non-existent but I managed to convey the thought and got the number. I called it and their boss was here an hour and a half later to look at the job.

Here's the problem...I am convinced these are illegals. Under normal circumstances that would be a non-starter. But I gave three locals the opportunity to bid on the job and while all promised to come and look at it, none did.

What to do?

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM (7JIKD)

128 IKEA made me kill you!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 09:58 AM (H5knJ)

129 Surround yourself with these objects and the logic, order and balance will infuse your life... like osmosis or something.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 09:53 AM (OyyDO)

And if you clear a patch of ground that looks like a runway, build a thatch and bamboo tower, and wave torches around, the cargo planes will come back.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 09, 2019 09:58 AM (J+mig)

130 Part of art appreciation for me is in the admiration of the skill required to create it. I don't see that here.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 09, 2019 09:58 AM (uGHnY)

131 "... with complimentary ideas at perfect peace ...."
I believe you mean complementary, not complimentary.

Posted by: RonF at October 09, 2019 09:58 AM (l8nW6)

132 Islam has been in a forever war with the West since the 600s.. get them to stop first.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (Cil7w)

133 Midnight in the cellar
Dinner on the floor
Sleeping in the gutter
He fights a private war
Living in a doorway
Weapon at his side
Rob you for a nickel
You'd better run and hide

He's a street rat
Nothing to offer
Street rat
Snake in the grass
Street rat
Steals another meal
Street rat
But it may be his last

The look of desperation
Sure to bite the dust
His constant nauseation
A real social crust

He's a street rat
Nothing to offer
Street rat
Snake in the grass
Street rat
Steals another meal
Street rat
But it may be his last

Post-war anti-social
Fading of the brain
He's hopeless and he's hostile
And living in the rain

He's a street rat
Nothing to offer
Street rat
Snake in the grass
Street rat
Steals another meal
Street rat
But it may be his last

His face is badly beaten
A nasty thing to see
Street rats on the rampage
You'd best keep away from me

Posted by: Theodosius Atrocius at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (vA4O3)

134 madammayhem, here try this to fix the earworm.

It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small, small world

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (Ol/Jg)

135 Omar Shariff had just shot Peter O'Toole's local guide because of a tribal feud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (Cil7w)

Did he use his well?

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (X/Pw5)

136 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the criticism is a bit OTT. Yeah, it's an abstract painting. If you don't like abstract stuff, whatevs. Now I'm not saying this is the bee's knees or anything but at least it's easy to ignore if it's not your thing. I wouldn't put it in a gallery to be worshipped, unless maybe it was the first abstraction of it's kind. And if so, it should be viewed in the context of its time. The thing s that time is long past and people are still creating simple stuff like this as "art" when really at this point it's more "craft". It's not a big deal but depending on the context of the hotel, it would't bother me to see this in my room rather than much of the other, less abstract, schlock I've had to look at for a couple of days.

Posted by: WTP at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (66rlH)

137
What to do?

Posted by: creeper

Ask if they're insured.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (7rVsF)

138 93 Kris, That's a fine precis of the rationale of those artists. I understand their thoughts on art and, by extension, improving humanity. I don't agree with it and it reminds me of every other utopian approach that never works.

This back to basics attitude ignores the complexity of social interaction, i.e., people. It also ignores human pleasure taken in complex, interwoven curves such as Celtic crosses, and even cave paintings.

This approach to art and living is easy to understand given the time. Easy to understand doesn't make it less pretentious or presumptious.

However, there can be power in stark images and this Modrian is an example. Your explanation shows why.
Posted by: JTB at October 09, 2019 09:48 AM (bmdz3)

I agree. It's sad that these people were so desperate for change or reform that they thought they had to undermine or destroy their history and cultural identity to find peace.

I think that's what attracts me the art of this era. I think I really feel sorry for these people.

The Interwar Period is probably my favorite era of Modernism.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:00 AM (OyyDO)

139 Thanks, Kris, I loved the essay.

Anything that prizes the universal or collectivist over the individual is communist, and I hate communism, but I'm not sure that's all that is at play here.

There were a bunch of artists and movements in the 20th century who sought to change the way we see things. Kandinsky, Picasso, Mondrian, Rothko, Pollock. They succeeded. We can't see the world the same way since we've seen them.

I think what people hate about "modern art" or movements in general is the followers on. There's a rinky dink museum in Hartford CT which had an exhibition of modernists a few years ago. They had one Rothko and one Pollock. They were fresh and vivid.

Then they had a bunch of squares, or diagonal lines, or white spaces, by a bunch of no name artists who seemed to think that any square or white space could be art if you called it art. That doesn't work. Original vision works.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:00 AM (gd9RK)

140 this ain't art, chief

Posted by: Filly at October 09, 2019 10:00 AM (aNmky)

141
As always, Kris, thank you for your wonderful analysis, not only of the painting, but of the art movement behind its creation!
=====

Seconded on the thank you for the analysis; as always, interesting and thoughtful.

I have always talked about my preschooler appreciation for bright primary colors so I actually enjoy this piece.

Atomization of color? Precursor to the deconstruction of everything. (just a random thought)

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 09, 2019 10:00 AM (MIKMs)

142 Here's the problem...I am convinced these are illegals. Under normal circumstances that would be a non-starter. But I gave three locals the opportunity to bid on the job and while all promised to come and look at it, none did.

What to do?
Posted by: creeper

Fuck them. Go with the crew across the street.
I called three fence companies. None showed. I did it myself.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (Ol/Jg)

143 What to do?
Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM

Flip a coin. Heads, the crew across the street, tails someone else (which sounds like it's TBD).

The key isn't which side of the coin is up. The key is how did you feel at the instant it was revealed. Were you happy, or did you wish the other side was up?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (DMUuz)

144 <i>Ask if they're insured.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 09:59 AM (7rVsF)</i>
Insured? Against what?

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (7JIKD)

145 I think he did use the well...

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (Cil7w)

146 136 - I'm not bothered by the "art" really. But don't throw down squares, paint a few in primary colors, and then describe it as a movement for peace or whatever. It's the bullshit that aggravates.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (H5knJ)

147 Looks like a product package. Maybe meal replacement bars. Verdict: NOT ART.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (rMZoZ)

148 Hello? HTML School? Do you have any openings for your next class?

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:02 AM (7JIKD)

149 104
Reports of airstrikes by the Turks on Kurdish positions in Syria. I
guess Trump's threat to "destroy the Turkish economy" didn't work. I'm
shocked.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (VpIIl)

What were the 50 troops going to do to stop a Turkish invasion? Once the Turks decided they were going in our only choice was to pull those 50 out or reinforce them with 50,000 and go to war against a NATO ally. This has been known for several years, this was the game we've been playing there.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:02 AM (CQ3Qb)

150
From The New York Post:
Former head of the CIA John Brennan admitted on Monday that he may have relied on "bad information" for his relentless attacks on President Trump.
Brennan -- who once warned that "our Nation's future is at stake" -- told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that he may have been misled on the extent of Trump's connections to Russia.
"Well, I don't know if I received bad information but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was," Brennan said. "I am relieved that it's been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government over our election."

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 10:02 AM (3aI0K)

151 Reports of airstrikes by the Turks on Kurdish positions in Syria. I
guess Trump's threat to "destroy the Turkish economy" didn't work. I'm
shocked.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (VpIIl)

__

I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:03 AM (FiUMj)

152 The key isn't which side of the coin is up. The key
is how did you feel at the instant it was revealed. Were you happy, or
did you wish the other side was up?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 10:01 AM (DMUuz)
Thank you! That did it.

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (7JIKD)

153
Creeper,
Job injury. Someone falls off the roof, do you want your homeowner's to have to pay? If they're insured then they're more likely to be on the up-and-up.

My ill-informed opinion.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (7rVsF)

154 My take on some modern art. Can an amateur paint a indistinguishable reproduction of a piece of art?

It may be an expression of thought but it ain't art.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (wWJIH)

155 Former head of the CIA John Brennan admitted on Monday that he may have relied on "bad information" for his relentless attacks on President Trump.

Bullshit.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (uGHnY)

156 my kid coulda painted this...
(if's i'd ever had a kid)
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 09, 2019 09:45 AM (/Dd+E)

This aint art. It takes no skill or discipline to do this. A 4th grader can do this. We need to reclaim art and stop pushing the notion that 'anything can be art.' Art takes skill, talent, practice. Its a trade, like being a welder, a blacksmith, a framer. Years are spent perfecting the eye, the brush strokes, the medium. It is not an emotional tantrum thrown on a canvas like some muscle spasm.
Posted by: lloyd sharp at October 09, 2019 09:43 AM (BKHPL)

My 13 yr old girl spawn won a very small art contest recently. The art professionals that judged the work said it reminded them of VanGoghs starry night. They were very impressed by the fact that it seemed 2D from close up, but step back a bit and it seems 3D.

Mondrion may have been talented but his work seems like he is trying to impose order on chaos. I suppose all artist do that to some extent but his work appears very strict and rigid, like he just can't even with this shit anymore.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (myjNJ)

157 Gaylord put US troops into the dogs breakfast of Aleppo for no real US interest.

Just like Clinton stuck the US in Jugoslavia for twenty some odd years.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (Cil7w)

158 Here's the problem...I am convinced these are illegals. Under normal circumstances that would be a non-starter. But I gave three locals the opportunity to bid on the job and while all promised to come and look at it, none did.

What to do?

I feel you here! Luckily we have Amish around here - sometimes you have to get them rides, and they show up super early, and they're not the cheapest, but they do great work and always show!

If I were you I'd go with them. I've done it for paving work - same sitch, could not get US citizens to take the job or even show for estimates - and the paving was EXCELLENT. just perfect. they re-did areas an american crew did a few years earlier and screwed up.

I wouldn't necessarily go with them for electrical work? but for concrete, roofing, tiling, paving... obviously also landscaping - they are great.

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfCollusion at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (Rarvo)

159 "Well, I don't know if I received bad information but I think I
suspected there was more than there actually was," Brennan said. "I am
relieved that it's been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy
with the Russian government over our election."
Reminds me of that Prego commercial where the women figures out that Prego tasted better than Ragu then questions "What Other Bad Choices Have I Made"

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (3aI0K)

160 58 "There is an old and a new consciousness of time. The old is connected with the individual. The new is connected with the universal. The struggle of the individual against the universal is revealing itself in the world-war as well as in the art of the present day."

Well, when you insist that you have no grounding, no unification with your fellow human beings, beyond "reason" then you can talk yourself into damn-near anything, rationalize it to the nth-degree, and still end up with... nothing.
Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 09:41 AM (DU2N9)

Time's out of Joint, O cursed spite;
that ever I was born to set it right.
- Dr. Who

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (Kpl3J)

161 Lawrence of Arabia, "and this is why you will always remain little people!"

Omar Shariff had just shot Peter O'Toole's local guide because of a tribal feud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 09:56 AM (Cil7w)

....."a silly and barbarous people."

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (X/Pw5)

162 It makes sense that a world being torn apart by the messy chaos of WWI
would gravitate to the simplicity and solidity of basic colors and
clean, geometric shapes.

Good point. A societal effort to exert some order over the chaos. The geometric nature speaks directly of and to mankind as the mechanical and mathematical perfection of a 90 degree angle doesn't exist in nature.

At least not that I've heard of.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (HaL55)

163 "Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 09:55 AM (Ad3Y

"

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you. They are live broadcasting the airstrikes on Turkish tv.

We have a mission and objectives in Syria. That mission is finite and not focused on holding territory over the long term. We also have funding approved by Congress.

I know your one of the people that daftly think we should only be fighting a war if the enemy lands in Los Angeles. But that's not realistic and it fails to understand contemporary threats and suppression.

Trump's poor leadership and fake bravado on this is already coming back to haunt him. Forget phony impeachment. It's now on TV for everyone to see.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:05 AM (VpIIl)

164 "Well, I don't know if I received bad information but I think I
suspected there was more than there actually was," (former head of the CIA) Brennan said. "I am
relieved that it's been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy
with the Russian government over our election."

It was your entire fucking job to know if you had "good" or "bad" information at any given time, asshole. Your entire. fucking. job.

The only "relief" you should get is a firing squad.

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 10:05 AM (DU2N9)

165 148 Hello? HTML School? Do you have any openings for your next class?
Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:02 AM (7JIKD)

HTML: hump the mighty lurker? They have classes in that? Who knew.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 09, 2019 10:05 AM (kUmUV)

166 Can't we just take Brennan out and shoot him now? His existence defiles the earth.

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:05 AM (7JIKD)

167 So I need help with a moral dilemma.

My
carport needs to be re-roofed. There's a crew across the road working on
a house. I've been watching and listening (you can tell a lot about a
man's work by listening to it) for several days and they're doing an
excellent job. So I stopped the other day and asked them for the number
of their boss to get an estimate. Their English was almost non-existent
but I managed to convey the thought and got the number. I called it and
their boss was here an hour and a half later to look at the job.

Here's
the problem...I am convinced these are illegals. Under normal
circumstances that would be a non-starter. But I gave three locals the
opportunity to bid on the job and while all promised to come and look at
it, none did.

What to do?

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 09:57 AM

---

Hire them to do the job. You are not going to get anyone else to come look at your job because it is way too small for them to make any money from it.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:05 AM (JUOKG)

168 Too busy.

Posted by: Zombie Mark Rothko at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (IttZ7)

169 Slept late...

I.LOVE.MONDRIAN.

that is all.

Posted by: browndog at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (bGMOs)

170 Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 09:50 AM

Dude or dudette, Ben Had has been trying to reach you.

About what, I can't comet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (DMUuz)

LOL. Yeah, I talked to Ben via email (it was about the Texas MoMe). Thanks...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (p0pYQ)

171 I am not qualified to judge art really. I only like Renaissance, French Impressionism, and Cowboys. The only thing I know about art is that the French Impressionists would be aghast to see how mainstream they have become.

Same with country music. I prefer the 70s and 80s and poo poo the rest. It is arbitrary and I admit it. Sure the music was better back then, but something knew could be good too. Art is the same way, I don't give modern art a chance. I admit it. But kudos to CBD for posting it. No chance I would see it in another locale.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (n13/j)

172 "It's the bullshit that aggravates."

Bingo. Though again, in the context of the times it was to some degree understandable. And so long as no taxpayer dollars were going to support it (presumably), even if the BS was coming from he artist...well, they're (mostly) all full of S. WWI was so far beyond the understanding of men at the time, coming as it did at such an inflection point in history with industrialization, mechanization, advances in chemistry, etc. I'll give people of the day some leeway in mental flummox.

Posted by: WTP at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (66rlH)

173 Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 09:50 AM (p0pYQ)

*********

Sometimes Willowed is a Good Thing - a limerick

Off Topic rants are the best
And this one outdid all the rest
But don't worry, I'm no fretter
And I hope that you feel better
Now that you have got that off your chest

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (mvenn)

174 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:03 AM (FiUMj)

I'll take that bet.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (wWJIH)

175 Kubricks Eyes Wide Shut would have been far more effective if done as a period piece of the late 1920s. Then you can go watch The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 10:07 AM (Cil7w)

176 I like Mondrian's work, but just as a decorative element. As in, it might be perfect in a certain type of interior space I'd design. Is it art?

Who knows?

I do respect any artist that has the ability to sell anything they throw up on a canvas, and then get people to analyze it and discuss their output for generations to come. Props to Piet.

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:07 AM (DJFLF)

177 Reports of airstrikes by the Turks on Kurdish positions in Syria. I

guess Trump's threat to "destroy the Turkish economy" didn't work. I'm

shocked.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 09:52 AM (VpIIl)

__

I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:03 AM (FiUMj)

(this ought to be fun)

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 10:07 AM (DU2N9)

178 Interesting picture. I would sit and have a nice cup of real coffee and a bagel with lox, onion, capers and a smear while discussing what the hell it really meant other than whether the artist had some leftover paint to use up.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2019 10:07 AM (UUkQp)

179 btw, while I don't care about the art, I think Kris ' essay about it is very interesting.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (G546f)

180 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker

No whey!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (Ol/Jg)

181 We have a mission and objectives in Syria. That
mission is finite and not focused on holding territory over the long
term. We also have funding approved by Congress.

I know your one
of the people that daftly think we should only be fighting a war if the
enemy lands in Los Angeles. But that's not realistic and it fails to
understand contemporary threats and suppression.

Trump's poor
leadership and fake bravado on this is already coming back to haunt him.
Forget phony impeachment. It's now on TV for everyone to see.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:05 AM (VpIIl)

What is the mission in Syria?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (CQ3Qb)

182 159 "Well, I don't know if I received bad information but I think I
suspected there was more than there actually was," Brennan said. "I am
relieved that it's been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy
with the Russian government over our election."
Reminds me of that Prego commercial where the women figures out that Prego tasted better than Ragu then questions "What Other Bad Choices Have I Made"
Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 10:04 AM (3aI0K)

"Yeah, I didn't use a condom, but what the hell, I'll never be in Haiti again."

- Bad Idea Jeans

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (7HtZB)

183 "Well, I don't know if I received bad information but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was," Brennan said. "I am relieved that it's been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government over our election."

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 10:02 AM (3aI0K)_
__-_

Well that's interesting and definitely a different time.

Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (8gOGZ)

184 the painting is not a picture of a grid, of rectangles. it's about the relationship of the forms that are in dynamic equilibrium or dynamic harmony.

it's meant to be representative of the universal and in this it marks a shift in perspective from a newtonian universe of things to a relativistic universe of interrelated forces.

Posted by: mjc at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (Pg+x7)

185 "to create an art that united Mankind using the most basic and universal elements of art."

Then hundreds of words of bullshit trying to explain the concept.

So total failure.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (tDAwn)

186 Tune

Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (8gOGZ)

187 113 As always, Kris, thank you for your wonderful analysis, not only of the painting, but of the art movement behind its creation!

I've never been a fan of "abstract" art, just from a personal aesthetic, but knowing more about the school of thought behind such art certainly helps me better appreciate it. It makes sense that a world being torn apart by the messy chaos of WWI would gravitate to the simplicity and solidity of basic colors and clean, geometric shapes.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 09:55 AM (rP4OC)

It's hard, 100 years on, to understand the zeitgeist of WWI and the aftermath. This art is a great help, tho. If whatever happened was bad enough that entire sections of culture were willing to obliterate their identities just so it wouldn't happen again? It really made me pause and think about it, for a long time. I can never truly know, but I understand where they were coming from better.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (OyyDO)

188
The War was an apocalypse and European artists dealt with this cataclysm by developing socialist utopianist movements

So in response to the horrors of WWI and the nationalistic ideologies that included wholesale slaughter as a side-effect, Eurotrash artists adopted internationalistic ideologies that had wholesale slaughter as their primary raison d'etre.

No wonder Europe has been culturally dead for 100 years. Their "elites" are even stupider than our "elites".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (veoSD)

189 Trump retweeted this...

michaelbeatty3 2 hours ago

BOOM
@MariaBartiromo is hearing..

IG REPORT OCT 18TH
THICK AS A TELEPHONE BOOK

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (cF8AT)

190 I respect Thomas Kinkade even more than artistes such as Mondrian. Kinkade made a shit-ton more money than did Mondrian in his lifetime, and Thomas became a household name.

Bringing his art to the masses, Tom Kinkade did. Mondrian was in the higher stratospheres of those who decided what you peasants should be able to appreciate.

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (DJFLF)

191 Hiya

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (arJlL)

192 I think he did use the well...

He did, and that was half of why Omar Sharif shot him. Peter O'Toole said but I also drank from the well, and Sharif said but you're not a Howietat (or whatever tribe shot guy was from).

One of the best all time movies.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (gd9RK)

193 De Crap.

All that is pretentious artistic crap to me. The left's struggle with reality.

But I have admitted, it would be interesting wallpaper.

And what subverts classic pretensions of Art like putting it up as wallpaper.

See, I'm an artist.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (DuZls)

194 184 the painting is not a picture of a grid, of rectangles. it's about the relationship of the forms that are in dynamic equilibrium or dynamic harmony.

==

a pixellated Fibonacci diagram?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (G546f)

195 189 Trump retweeted this...

michaelbeatty3 2 hours ago

BOOM
@MariaBartiromo is hearing..

IG REPORT OCT 18TH
THICK AS A TELEPHONE BOOK
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (cF8AT)

=========

Old news.

New news is a 14th whistleblower's opinion about a transcript we've already read.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (q80AH)

196 Happy belated birthday Chavez !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (arJlL)

197 What is the mission in Syria?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (CQ3Qb)

You can easily do the research yourself. But Cliff note version is assisting the Kurds in recapturing territory held by ISIS.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (wWJIH)

198
What is the mission in Syria?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

To prevent the bad guys from killing all the bad guys.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (7rVsF)

199 other than whether the artist had some leftover paint to use up.
Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2019 10:07 AM (UUkQp)

lolol!

It may have been just that simple!

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (DJFLF)

200 "It was called the style to end all styles."
Good thing it's out of style. This is stupid trying to look smart.Total fail.
JWM

Posted by: jwm at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (Tdh/t)

201 I'd bet $1000>>
You'd lose, at least with me.

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (WkmoA)

202 "We have a mission and objectives in Syria. That mission is finite and not focused on holding territory over the long term. We also have funding approved by Congress."

What's the mission? What's the objective?

Can they be achieved without supply lines? Air transport can't supply any force large enough to actually fight a war, and the land routes to Kurdish areas run through the Persian Gulf or all the way from the Red Sea.

Or do we take this opportunity to get our troops out and start openly reassessing our relationship to Turkey?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (kc91d)

203 Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (OyyDO)

do you teach Art History?
I always enjoy your posts - so well written

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (G546f)

204 New news is a 14th whistleblower's opinion about a transcript we've already read.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM

---

The latest is the transcript that Trump had released was doctored and is missing sections.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (JUOKG)

205 IG REPORT OCT 18TH�
THICK AS A TELEPHONE BOOK
---

Millennials: "what's a telephone book?"

Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (8gOGZ)

206 One of the best all time movies.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (gd9RK)

First time I heard "wog".

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (X/Pw5)

207 Yesterday I was wondering why the "Mueller was lying when he said he wasn't intervieiwng for FBI" thing was happening.

Don and Don Jr are tagteaming Mueller on Twitter.

Hmmm.

Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (ZfRYq)

208 Marcus T's war stock portfolio must be down again.

Posted by: Wut at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (pH6td)

209 158 Here's the problem...I am convinced these are illegals. Under normal circumstances that would be a non-starter. But I gave three locals the opportunity to bid on the job and while all promised to come and look at it, none did."

Don't know where you are, but in Texas, that's the norm now. Only the crew leader ever speaks English, so that's who you deal with. I had an experience a couple years back with some property I was handling for someone else, I needed all the brush and trees cleared off of two acres, it had been allowed to go wild for a number of years. So I called up a guy who advertised, had a lot of big equipment, he said he was all bonded, the big companies all used him, but it would take him a month to be there and cost $2500. So I said ok, talked to another local guy, a black guy and his brothers, and they said they were pretty busy but the three of them could start in 2 weeks and would only charge $1600. So I said, well, I'm in a hurry and kept looking. Got in touch with one of these crew leaders like you're talking about, and he said "oh sure, I'll have 10 guys, we'll be done 2 days from now, and we'll charge $600, but only if we can haul all the wood off and sell it ourselves." Well, that's what I wanted anyways. So not really much of a choice to make. I drove by the next day - they swarmed over that piece of ground like army ants, 10 or 12 guys each with his own chain saw. It was amazing. And they finished in a day and a half.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (Kpl3J)

210 How long we gonna fight ISIS? Ballpark?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (H5knJ)

211 204 New news is a 14th whistleblower's opinion about a transcript we've already read.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM

---

The latest is the transcript that Trump had released was doctored and is missing sections.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (JUOKG)

==========

They've been saying that for a week.

Rachel Maddow will blow that horn until she's off the air and no one will care.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (q80AH)

212 Oooh we're artists! How can we make putting pigments on canvas important??!!

~100 years later: HOW DARE YOU!

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (DuZls)

213 In Syria you have Assad trying to stay in power.

In Syria you have Russia trying to gain warm water port and preventing oil pipelines from reaching Europe.

In Syria you have Iran trying to control the country and get oil pipelines to the Med and Europe.

So why does the US need to have any human targets in there?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (Cil7w)

214 And what subverts classic pretensions of Art like putting it up as wallpaper.

See, I'm an artist.
Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (DuZls)

The moment artistes deviated from representational depictions of consensus reality, it was just an ongoing scam perpetrated on elites who always wanted to be CURRENT to separate themselves from the peasants.

If you don't *get* what the artist is trying to say, well then, what is the point of you, anyway??

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (DJFLF)

215 171 I am not qualified to judge art really. I only like Renaissance, French Impressionism, and Cowboys. The only thing I know about art is that the French Impressionists would be aghast to see how mainstream they have become.

Same with country music. I prefer the 70s and 80s and poo poo the rest. It is arbitrary and I admit it. Sure the music was better back then, but something knew could be good too. Art is the same way, I don't give modern art a chance. I admit it. But kudos to CBD for posting it. No chance I would see it in another locale.
Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (n13/j)

If you have eyes, a brain, and a soul then you are qualified to judge art. Period.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

216 You can easily do the research yourself. But Cliff note version is assisting the Kurds in recapturing territory held by ISIS.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:10 AM (wWJIH)

The only thing I'm seeing is regime-change and a civil war. More regime change.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (CQ3Qb)

217 Man oh man...twitter is messing with Trump's twitter page.

I just refreshed and got an empty page that says "@realDonaldTrump hasn't tweeted yet."

Been doing odd things like that all morning.

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (cF8AT)

218 @163

We have a mission? Really?

The SCOAMF sent troops into Syria in 2014, does some quick finger counting and comes up with 5+ years.

Or longer than WW I and WWII respectively.

You want to tell us what our specific reason for being there other than slaking the unquenchable thirst of the Globalist/Deep State and MIC jock sniffers unending lust for blood and treasure?

Bonus points if you can explicate on an exit strategy.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (Ad3Y8)

219 Good lord, I hate this stuff. This isn't fine art; it's bullshit masquerading as art. It's The Emperor's New Clothes. It's cocaine-snorting NY art snobs elevating themselves over the rabble who just don't understand brilliance.

> p-tooie <

Posted by: red speck at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (nrC0n)

220 "You can easily do the research yourself. But Cliff note version is assisting the Kurds in recapturing territory held by ISIS."

Is this territory in Iraq or Syria?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (kc91d)

221 I think a lot of the criticism of this particular art piece is gut reaction, which I admit is where I generally determine if I think something is "art" or not. But I can't agree with those who are saying it's "not art" just because it's something anyone can do. It's very clear that Mondrian spent a great deal of time planning the exact dimensions and depth of each block of color and the thickness of each black line. There was a method and a reason behind these choices. Just because you wouldn't hang it in your living room doesn't mean it's not art; it's just not art you care for. I've never been a fan of Picasso, but I recognize his work as art.

I saw it mentioned in an earlier comment, I think a lot of classic modern art is undermined by the dreck that gets called "modern art" today. There're some gems, but too often modern "modern art" is the pretentious pablum of pampered trust fund babies who claim an empty, white room with a single illuminated red lightbulb dangling from the ceiling is "art" because it evokes the anxiety of a life lived in boxes under the spotlight of constant criticism blah blah blah. It's horseshit. God bless you if you can sort the wheat from the chaff. It's one reason why I prefer realism and romanticism; at least you know the work took genuine talent, even if it's not high art.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (rP4OC)

222 Sometimes Willowed is a Good Thing - a limerick

Off Topic rants are the best
And this one outdid all the rest
But don't worry, I'm no fretter
And I hope that you feel better
Now that you have got that off your chest

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:06 AM (mvenn)

Well, it wasn't "off topic" on the last thread, where it got willowed as usual (and if I had a nickel for every willowed post I've seen reposted on the next thread down I'd be a rich man). And given how many posts are here that have nothing to do with that "art" at the top, I don't think I'm particularly out of line or "off topic". YMMV.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (p0pYQ)

223 205 IG REPORT OCT 18TH
THICK AS A TELEPHONE BOOK
---

Millennials: "what's a ~~telephone~~ book?"
Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (8gOGZ)

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (7HtZB)

224 How long we gonna fight ISIS? Ballpark?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (H5knJ)

How long do you fight terrorist groups that want you destroyed?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (wWJIH)

225 Way past the scam line.
I generated Mondrian text rectangles with a few lines of APL, in high school, on a teletype.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (FhXTo)

226 They've been saying that for a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (q80AH)
---
Where's their proof? They say there is no proof that Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine--so where's their proof?

...

Oh, wait, it's time for a Seriousness-of-the-Accusation thing, isn't it. And also "C'mon!" as an argument.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (DuZls)

227 i knew who the Kurds are and i would bet most here do as well. I recall reading of the relative safety in Kurdish areas of Iraq during the war. They treated Americans like brothers and fought damn hard. There are no easy answers here but if we do pull out completely, it would be a good call to make sure the Kurds in at least Iraq had access to weapons to defend themselves.

I am not going to spout off on a subject that crosses several countries and involves American lives. But from the little i read of the Kurds back in the day, they were good allies and good fighters. I don't recall Kurds turning their guns on Americans like so many others in the ME.

No easy answers here. But if it all came for naught. I would try to do the best by them. Even if that meant immigration like so many South Vietnamese. Better to defend them but I realize it is complicated. At least give them the means to defend themselves and cut off their enemies .

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (n13/j)

228 And the reason I ask how long is because we've been fighting Taliban for damn near two decades and they seem to have a firmer grip on Afghanistan now than when we started.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (H5knJ)

229 226 They've been saying that for a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (q80AH)
---
Where's their proof? They say there is no proof that Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine--so where's their proof?

...

Oh, wait, it's time for a Seriousness-of-the-Accusation thing, isn't it. And also "C'mon!" as an argument.
Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (DuZls)

===========

There's no proof. It's a conspiracy theory based on assumptions that are probably wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (q80AH)

230 Posted by: red speck at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (nrC0n)

Correct.

But it would look great on a wall behind a white leather sectional that sits atop an ultramarine blue rug, amirite?

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (DJFLF)

231 Remember the Kurds have spiders on their side. ALL the spiders., no matter which tuffett you sit on.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (UUkQp)

232 Is this territory in Iraq or Syria?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM

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Both IIRC.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (JUOKG)

233 Oh yeah Lawrence of Arabia is an awesome movie. And even the latest 80in TVs are still too small to appreciate the visuals of that movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (Cil7w)

234 Stark abstract art can capture the viewer's eye and attention but that doesn't make it deep. Mrs. JTB won an award at a photographic abstract exhibit. Her shot was essentially a two tone image with triangular divisions. It had no inner message, it was simply interesting.

BTW, for you youngsters, she used film and didn't modify anything with Photoshop. No digital stuff. You know, a real photograph.

(Runs away laughing!)

Posted by: JTB at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (bmdz3)

235 I saw it mentioned in an earlier comment, I think a lot of classic modern art is undermined by the dreck that gets called "modern art" today.

Yes, that was me, Beth. How ya doin'?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (gd9RK)

236 Early try at pixilating?
Usually I can get it out of focus and see what is intended, but not here.But thanks, Kris, for the information.

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (WkmoA)

237 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. I'm a triangle man myself.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (axyOa)

238 233 Oh yeah Lawrence of Arabia is an awesome movie. And even the latest 80in TVs are still too small to appreciate the visuals of that movie.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (Cil7w)

==========

One day I'll have a home theater.

One day...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (q80AH)

239 217 Man oh man...twitter is messing with Trump's twitter page.

I just refreshed and got an empty page that says "@realDonaldTrump hasn't tweeted yet."

Been doing odd things like that all morning.
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (cF8AT)

I just refreshed & he's tweeting a lot, just taunted Hillary to run again a few minutes ago

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (7HtZB)

240 Hey, this isn't Havana!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (EYsyU)

241 You can easily do the research yourself. But Cliff note version is assisting the Kurds in recapturing territory held by ISIS."

Is this territory in Iraq or Syria?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (kc91d)

Since the question was about our mission in Syria I'm talking Syria. We also have the same mission in Iraq.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (wWJIH)

242 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.

Mebbe.

But I knew what it rhymed with !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (arJlL)

243 242 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.

Mebbe.

But I knew what it rhymed with !
Posted by: JT at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (arJlL)

=====

*nods sagaciously*

Orange.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (q80AH)

244 225 Way past the scam line.
I generated Mondrian text rectangles with a few lines of APL, in high school, on a teletype.
Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2019 10:15 AM (FhXTo)

You could sell it on Etsy

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (DJFLF)

245 So Oct 18 is early Christmas?

Posted by: torabora at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (Y274z)

246 wikipedia has a rather exhaustive, detailed 20+-page treatise on US involvement in Syria since 2011.
The Kurds are given about a paragraph.
https://bit.ly/2zn2DF8

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:18 AM (CQ3Qb)

247 Right, there's my answer: the war crowd wants to fight forever. Never gonna win, just content to piss away lives and resources indefinitely. It's like private enterprise: I'm slow on the uptake maybe, but I lose interest in ventures that never succeed.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:18 AM (H5knJ)

248 You could always go the mercenary route and fight in Syria.

Sack up and catch a plane.

Posted by: Wut at October 09, 2019 10:18 AM (pH6td)

249 neoplasticism or de stijl (i.e. mondrian) wasn't the only post-ww I art movement that sought art of universal forms. there was also purism (leger, ozenfant) in france and constructivism in russia and germany, and precisionism (sheeler, demuth. spencer, etc.) in the u.s.

some of these artist were totally abstract, some representational, but they all sought an affirmative and optimistic vision after the disaster of that meaningless destruction of ww I.

Posted by: mjc at October 09, 2019 10:18 AM (Pg+x7)

250 If you have eyes, a brain, and a soul then you are qualified to judge art. Period.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

Well i do have eyes. But i am just leaving the option that others might like it, that is all.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:18 AM (n13/j)

251 How about if we're fighting the mother fuckers, we actually kill all them. Wiped out. Decimated. Instead, we pussy ass around year after year after year, wounding but not annihilating anyone. This is my problem with our troops anywhere.

Posted by: NCKate at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (rx1QH)

252 Man oh man...twitter is messing with Trump's twitter page.

They have to. Social media allows information to get out.

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (xSo9G)

253 203 Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:08 AM (OyyDO)

do you teach Art History?
I always enjoy your posts - so well written
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:11 AM (G546f)

Yes, but could not get into the very competitive PhD programs. Only 2-3 people a year in the limited number of programs. I also couldn't leave my State for personal reasons, so that limited me further. This smothered my career, so I quit teaching about 3 years ago. Hated it anyway, but I always liked talking about the art itself to people who wanted to understand it better.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (OyyDO)

254 they swarmed over that piece of ground like army
ants, 10 or 12 guys each with his own chain saw. It was amazing. And
they finished in a day and a half.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:12 AM (Kpl3J)
I'm in Oklahoma, Tom. But I lived in Texas for twenty years and we had our house re-roofed while we were there. The crew leader showed up with a pickup full of Hispanics. It was just as you describe. They swarmed over that roof like ants. They tore the old roof off, replaced some fascia and put a new roof on...in two days. And charged half what the roofing companies were quoting.
Thanks for the input, Horde. 'Preciate the support.

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (7JIKD)

255 If you have eyes, a brain, and a soul then you are qualified to judge art. Period.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

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Ah, but are you credentialed?

It's all that matters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (q80AH)

256 how does katshit earn a living? He is just a high paid troll?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (85Gof)

257 I'll say again, Trump should announce to the world that he'll be glad to give full military support to the Kurds, as long as they all agree to be baptized and accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (Kpl3J)

258 Oh yeah Lawrence of Arabia is an awesome movie. And even the latest 80in TVs are still too small to appreciate the visuals of that movie.

Mebbe. It is on a grand scale but it still works on my markedly less than 80" TV.

I like his approach to CGI. How shall we simulate 1,000 Arabs on horses and camels riding across the desert? I know, let's hire a thousand Arabs and put them on horses and camels and film them riding across the desert!

Genius.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (gd9RK)

259 Morning all.. Trump impeached yet?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 10:19 AM (O2RFr)

260 And just so some won't think I'm posting utterly off topic, that "art" reminds me of something I saw, oh this must have been 40 years ago, at Houston's "Contemporary Arts Museum". The piece I'm thinking of was literally just a mishmash of colors, looking like a kid's fingerpainting more than anything. Yet that museum paid $100,000 for that piece of crap. But I guess I'm just a hopeless lowbrow when it comes to "art"....

Posted by: The Oort Cloud, Source of all SMODs at October 09, 2019 10:20 AM (p0pYQ)

261 http://bit.ly/2nwiL41
*******
Dick's CEO Says Anti-Gun Policy Shrank Company by a 'Quarter Billion Dollars'

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 10:20 AM (BqBId)

262 I just refreshed & he's tweeting a lot, just taunted Hillary to run again a few minutes ago

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (7HtZB)

Yeah, it comes and goes...mostly on the 'Tweets and Replies' section. Sometimes there's nothing, like I quoted above, sometimes there's one tweet on that page and sometimes it's a full page.

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:20 AM (cF8AT)

263 Since the question was about our mission in Syria I'm talking Syria. We also have the same mission in Iraq.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:17 AM (wWJIH)

How many countries do the Kurds lay claim to territory in and how many years have they been fighting for it? Centuries? This does not seem sustainable for our military involvement.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (CQ3Qb)

264 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.

I saw Kurdish grafitti (PKK) in Germany in 1980. Kurds ain't a new thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (gd9RK)

265 It's very clear that Mondrian spent a great deal of time planning the exact dimensions and depth of each block of color and the thickness of each black line. There was a method and a reason behind these choices. Just because you wouldn't hang it in your living room doesn't mean it's not art; it's just not art you care for. I've never been a fan of Picasso, but I recognize his work as art.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:14 AM (rP4OC)
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Which is what makes it *great* wallpaper.

The best, really.

Your medium is depicting things on a canvas, a manifesto that you forgot to staple to the back of the canvas--or one you even *did*, is not your medium.

Neither is crossing your arms and refusing to paint for all the injustice in the world an expression of your medium.

"Here! Here is my blank canvas. Because I refuse to paint while people die!"

Ooooh. So deep.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (DuZls)

266 My completely out-of-my-ass take on Trump's thinking wrt Syria goes something like this. Trump asks what the mission is there and is told something (I have no idea what, I don't think JugEars had any idea when he committed troops there in the first place).

Trump asks if they have everything they need to accomplish that. Answer comes back, well maybe. Follow-up with well what do they need. Answer is, more. Of what? Everything.

OK, so what does victory look like? Answer - lots of blank stares.

Trump then says, we're done here. Pull the plug.

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (DU2N9)

267 Right, there's my answer: the war crowd wants to fight forever. Never gonna win, just content to piss away lives and resources indefinitely. It's like private enterprise: I'm slow on the uptake maybe, but I lose interest in ventures that never succeed.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:18 AM (H5knJ)

And that's the problem with trying to convince anyone of the validity of the mission because you can't prove what it has prevented or what the situation would be if we haven't continued tapping this shit down.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (wWJIH)

268 Yes, but could not get into the very competitive PhD programs. Only 2-3 people a year in the limited number of programs. I also couldn't leave my State for personal reasons, so that limited me further. This smothered my career, so I quit teaching about 3 years ago. Hated it anyway, but I always liked talking about the art itself to people who wanted to understand it better.
Posted by: Kris

It's not said often enough, but we do appreciate your input.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (Ol/Jg)

269 @realDonaldTrump 1 minute ago

So why is someone a good or great President if they needed to Spy on someone else's Campaign in order to win (that didn't work out so well), and if they were unable to fill 142 important Federal Judgeships (a record by far), handing them all to me to chose. Will have 182 soon!

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (cF8AT)

270
This art is indefensible.

It's a deliberate insult to all that came before it, and to the people who view it, and Mondrian should've been horsewhipped.

That is all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (yQyH6)

271 Looks like bad bathroom tile.
Never liked modern art; untalented pricks who never learned to paint, much less draw, passing off their infantile creations as masterpieces.
Never liked art critics; they bought their bullshit.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (QMwOT)

272 10% of PG&E's customers are without power right now. Half a million people. Helluva job, Gavin.

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (CDGwz)

273 Halp!
I'm being die dead kilt by a rampaging doggeh
*wipes off drool*

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (G546f)

274 Schiff is claiming the anonymous WB is getting death threats?

Uhhhhh

Posted by: Wut at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (pH6td)

275 How many countries do the Kurds lay claim to territory in and how many years have they been fighting for it? Centuries? This does not seem sustainable for our military involvement.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (CQ3Qb)

they have the unfortunate fate of living at the intersection of iran, iraq, syria, and turkey. Want to crucify them for that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (85Gof)

276 It just dawned on me what the picture reminds me of.

A Monopoly board.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (Ol/Jg)

277 Yes, exactly: you want me to take it on faith that endless war does more good than harm. No.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (H5knJ)

278 269 @realDonaldTrump 1 minute ago

So why is someone a good or great President if they needed to Spy on someone else's Campaign in order to win (that didn't work out so well), and if they were unable to fill 142 important Federal Judgeships (a record by far), handing them all to me to chose. Will have 182 soon!
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (cF8AT)

===========

Um...Trump's openly attacking Obama for spying again...

This is going to get interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (q80AH)

279 I see Armstrong linoleum floor samples.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (9Om/r)

280 Anti-Trump Whistleblower Attorney Worked Directly For James Clapper

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (3aI0K)

281 10% of PG&E's customers are without power right now. Half a million people. Helluva job, Gavin.
Posted by: t-bird

I thought that was supposed to start tonight?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (Ol/Jg)

282 Well Horde, much as I'd like to sit here and refight old wars--intellectual, artistic, and actual--my boss is giving me hard looks so I guess I should make a pretense of productive labor.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 09, 2019 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

283
I always enjoy your posts - so well written

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book!

Seconded. I may not like all Kris's choices (I'm a Philistine anyway), but there's no question that they're explained to us dolts in a clear, non-condescending way.

It's a pleasure to hear people who are experts at something sharing their expertise. The collective intelligence of the Horde is an awesome thing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 10:24 AM (7rVsF)

284 It's not said often enough, but we do appreciate your input.
Posted by: rickb223

Yep !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2019 10:24 AM (arJlL)

285 It's not said often enough, but we do appreciate your input.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (Ol/Jg)
I'll second that notion. Though I trashed this one I appreciate your input on the art threads. You've taught us a lot.

Posted by: creeper at October 09, 2019 10:24 AM (7JIKD)

286 Hour 6 of the great blackout. Starbucks supplies already dwindling. Haven't seen my own Twitter feed for hours. I may need to start abusing animals soon.

Posted by: NorCal Dweller at October 09, 2019 10:25 AM (I99aF)

287 In 1991 during Operation Provide Comfort - Northern Iraq, post Desert Storm - there were thousands of US troops there.

And Turks and PKK were shooting at each other the whole time.

Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2019 10:25 AM (ZfRYq)

288 Turks hurt the Kurds, nuke them.
Hell, nuke them anyways; the muzzie bastards.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 09, 2019 10:25 AM (QMwOT)

289 Yes, exactly: you want me to take it on faith that endless war does more good than harm. No.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (H5knJ)

We should pack it up it Korea too?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:25 AM (wWJIH)

290 they have the unfortunate fate of living at the intersection of iran, iraq, syria, and turkey. Want to crucify them for that?

Correct. Also, they lived there before Sykes and Picot (to stay on the Lawrence of Arabia theme) drew lines on a map and said they were now in these newfangled things called nation-states.

If they get their own nation-state they get a lot of Iraq's oil.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:25 AM (gd9RK)

291 He is taking the most basic colors and forms and trying to find the most perfect balance between them.

*******

Kris-

I'm curious about this line, particularly the word 'balance'. Balance is the last thing I think of in this picture. Balance suggests either symmetry or equivalence, as in equal weight. To me this picture is balanced in the same way Harvard's admissions policies are racially balanced.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (mvenn)

292 Well Horde, much as I'd like to sit here and refight old wars--intellectual, artistic, and actual--my boss is giving me hard looks so I guess I should make a pretense of productive labor.
Posted by: joncelli

Pretense of pay gets them pretense of work.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (Ol/Jg)

293 "Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:03 AM (FiUMj) "

I still have a shemagh a Kurdish dude gave to me, and it still has dust on it. Does that count?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (VpIIl)

294 Trump's tweet was fire this morning. He's motivated me to vote for him again, if nothing else, he's fighting hard against the CIA and their imperial projects.

Getting really sick of hearing about the Kurds. They aren't our pets. Fuck them. They are Communist terrorists that helped kill 1.5 million Armenian Christians. I hope they get what is coming.

Posted by: CuckCommander at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (+ayCK)

295 251 How about if we're fighting the mother fuckers, we actually kill all them. Wiped out. Decimated. Instead, we pussy ass around year after year after year, wounding but not annihilating anyone. This is my problem with our troops anywhere."

And suppose we *did* go all out in a place like Syria and completely destroyed one of the sides - well, there are at least 7 sides so it wouldn't end anything, and the side we were allied with would immediately turn around and start attacking us, because that's what they do. That's what happened with the rebels who were supposedly our "friends" in Libya who we "liberated", that's how Ambassador Stephens got killed.

We can either nuke them all from orbit, or just get the hell out and let them all kill each other. Foolish people like to say "failure is not an option" - well, in the Middle East, Victory is not an option. Never has been. Like the end of the movie War Games, the only way to Win is not to Play.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (Kpl3J)

296 Bringing his art to the masses, Tom Kinkade did. Mondrian was in the higher stratospheres of those who decided what you peasants should be able to appreciate.
Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (DJFLF)

Liking abstract art by masters of that art form and detesting the kitschy dreck that Thomas Kinkade produced doesn't make one a snob. Looking down on those who don't like abstract art and loving Kinkade's work does.

Posted by: troyriser at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (mSO8Y)

297 they have the unfortunate fate of living at the intersection of iran, iraq, syria, and turkey. Want to crucify them for that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (85Gof)

Of course not but it would be nice for someone to explain how our military involvement is going to improve that situation.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (CQ3Qb)

298 My point was nobody gave a fuck about the Kurds until last week. Then everyone is super duper concerned about the Kurds because OrangeManBad. And even peeps on our side who probably hadn't thought about the Kurds in 10 years are also all of a sudden up in arms cuz....stuff!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (FiUMj)

299
Um...Trump's openly attacking Obama for spying again...

This is going to get interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 10:23 AM (q80AH)

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Im done ..... leave me alone. Im retired. All I want to do all day is eat, smoke pot, and oil rub Reggie.

~ #44

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (8XRCm)

300 Yes, that was me, Beth. How ya doin'?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:16 AM (gd9RK)

Howdy, Bander! I'm good! Finally getting back into the online world after what feels like FOREVER. I missed y'all at the HQ.

In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too.

Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

301 I'm curious about this line, particularly the word 'balance'. Balance is the last thing I think of in this picture. Balance suggests either symmetry or equivalence, as in equal weight. To me this picture is balanced in the same way Harvard's admissions policies are racially balanced.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (mvenn)

If that were true, there'd be even less yellow.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (NWiLs)

302 My point was nobody gave a fuck about the Kurds until last week. Then everyone is super duper concerned about the Kurds because OrangeManBad.

Dood. This smart military blog has been a Kurdish fan club for years. They have hawt fighting Kurdish women, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:28 AM (gd9RK)

303 I thought that was supposed to start tonight?

Well, maybe that's Stage 2. I don't know. I imagine the real goal is to cut off rural folks. Inconvenience the Bay Area a bit and they'll clamor for that.

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 10:28 AM (EYsyU)

304 Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (FiUMj)

Your the one not paying attention . This ain't the first time we have abandoned the Kurds.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:28 AM (wWJIH)

305 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

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Thats just AWESOME!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (8XRCm)

306
It's a pleasure to hear people who are experts
at something sharing their expertise. The collective intelligence of the
Horde is an awesome thing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 10:24 AM (7rVsF)

And by "experts" we mean actual experts, not dimwits like Tom whatshisname on Twitter who's all "alas, alack, will no one appreciate my expertise anymore!" Because Tom is not an expert. Tom is a glorified idiot.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (rP4OC)

307 Bleh, calling this visionary seems like post-hoc rationalization. You have to say that because for whatever reason, Mondrian is important, and if you don't "get" it, you're a rube. We expect important things to be famous, and the converse as well - this is famous, there must be a reason it is, it must be great and I just can't comprehend it.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (oZ6kz)

308 Your =you're

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (wWJIH)

309 They have hawt fighting Kurdish women, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:28 AM (gd9RK)

__

Pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (FiUMj)

310 Nice one Eromero!! You made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: Stacy at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (sI15f)

311 Morning!

Thanks, Kris! You coulda just given us the short form: "This is when bullshit took over art"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (so+oy)

312 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.
Posted by: MWR

Whoa Nellie! Congratulations!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (Ol/Jg)

313 There is supposedly an email chain that has Brennan and Comey admitting that the Steele dossier is fake but deciding to go ahead with it anyway

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (3aI0K)

314 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Congratulations! That's awesome news!

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (NWiLs)

315 How long we gonna fight ISIS? Ballpark?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:13 AM (H5knJ)

========

Lemme guess! Until they stop killing Americans?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (LISuA)

316 This picture was the inspiration for my family tree...

Posted by: Liz Warren at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (EYsyU)

317 In my book, it's a failure as art. Can failures, trying new things, be interesting? Sure they can.

It doesn't make them in any objective sense "art".

"Art is subjective!"

Then why am I looking at that patch on the wall?

"Because it's Art!"

Thank you, you've just refuted yourself.

Wallpaper.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:30 AM (DuZls)

318 It's not said often enough, but we do appreciate your input.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:21 AM (Ol/Jg)

Thank you.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:30 AM (OyyDO)

319 Yay Kris!

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (y7DUB)

320
TETRIS!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (8XRCm)

321 One of my favorite places to visit is the National Portrait Gallery, specifically the Presidential portraits and American Origins sections. That's about as classy as I get.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (Xvo1a)

322
In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Best wishes to you and Bert (a.k.a. "The Lump"). Ice cream and pickle stocks soar.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (7rVsF)

323 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime
in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

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A baby coming is always the best news of the day! Congratulations!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (LISuA)

324
I read that if you were to scrape the red paint off that picture, there are boobies.
It's like scratch off tickets, except its art.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (88+cf)

325 311 Morning!

Thanks, Kris! You coulda just given us the short form: "This is when bullshit took over art"
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (so+oy)

No, that's DADA.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

326 Schiff is claiming the anonymous WB is getting death threats?

Uhhhhh
Posted by: Wut at October 09, 2019 10:22 AM (pH6td)
******
well duh he doesn't know who the people sending him death threats either/s

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (BqBId)

327 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Oh Congratulations! The world needs more MWRs.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (gd9RK)

328 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Awwww congrats MWR!!!

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (cF8AT)

329 Your the one not paying attention . This ain't the first time we have abandoned the Kurds.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:28 AM (wWJIH)

What are the victory conditions for our involvement? When will our involvement in their war end? These are very basic but impossible questions because the answer is unobtainable (world peace and a happy middle east where everyone loves each other).

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (CQ3Qb)

330 The Kurds love Mondrian! That makes them allies! FIGHT ME!*

*Yes, now I'm going to do some work.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (RD7QR)

331 And charged half what the roofing companies were quoting.

I'm not sure it's fair to compare quotes because the roofing companies probably have additional costs that illegals do not.
Vehicle reg and insurance, general contractor's fees and insurance, Workers Comp, taxes, etc.

It's tough to compete financially when there is an advantage to working illegally. It may be why there are fewer legitimate roofers available to quote / complete projects.

Posted by: Alice McD at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (fWdPl)

332 Thanks, Kris! You coulda just given us the short form: "This is when bullshit took over art"
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (so+oy)

No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

MAMA's got a squeezebox, DADA can't sleep at night.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (NWiLs)

333 I'm curious about this line, particularly the word 'balance'. Balance is
the last thing I think of in this picture. Balance suggests either
symmetry or equivalence, as in equal weight. To me this picture is
balanced in the same way Harvard's admissions policies are racially
balanced.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (mvenn)

I can't speak for Kris, but what I gleaned from her analysis is that the balance is in the weight given to each of the colors. No one color overwhelms the rest. Red is dominant and draws the eye, but you still have the cool weight of blue and the bright lift of yellow for balance, all of which is grounded on a white palette that lets the eye rest instead of being overwhelmed with nothing but color.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (rP4OC)

334 He did, and that was half of why Omar Sharif shot him. Peter O'Toole said but I also drank from the well, and Sharif said but you're not a Howietat (or whatever tribe shot guy was from).

One of the best all time movies.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:09 AM (gd9RK)

Didn't Al Razuli do the same thing in The Wind and the Lion?

Posted by: Cigarette Smoking Man at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (MwFQu)

335 They have hawt fighting Kurdish women, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:28 AM (gd9RK)

__

Pics or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker

............

https://tinyurl.com/yxs5lvc4

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (so+oy)

336 I wouldn't abruptly leave Korea because: it's been relatively stable since the end of hostilities and has remained essentially static for many decades and we have marginally promising diplomatic efforts underway there for the first time in a long time. None of that is true anywhere in the Mideast. But if things kicked off there, I think you'd find out very quickly how few fucks Americans give about Korea.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (H5knJ)

337 My point was nobody gave a fuck about the Kurds until last week. Then everyone is super duper concerned about the Kurds because OrangeManBad.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (FiUMj)
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I remember talk of "staying in X forever" or "no exit strategy" from the left, and they even rejected the demonstration that we've never left Germany and Japan.

I will even bet that if Trump ever sends troops to war, you will hear "no exit strategy".

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (DuZls)

338 Don't love today's picture but I love the explanation of it! Thanks to the smart people, especially Kris.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (LISuA)

339 300 ... Beth, Many congrats on that news. Wonderful!

Posted by: JTB at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (bmdz3)

340 One reason to like it....
If that is Art, then apparently I'm an artist also because I can do that painting with a paint roller and some blue painters tape.

Posted by: doesky2 at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (Zpygp)

341 Just finished re-reading "The Guns of August". Gives you a fair idea of how really awful WWI was, and the book stops at the battle of the Marne. Trench warfare was just getting warmed up then.
I'm surprised the art spawned from this period was not just some insane scribbling.
Maybe it's my OCD coming out, but I kinda like some of this stuff, and I think orderly rectangles are in for a comeback after 2020.

Posted by: Last at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (BdIMF)

342 @alx

Democrats & the Media claim there is no story here:

The New Investigation into Burisma began prior to Trump's Ukraine call & before Zelensky was elected.

Bank Records obtained through FBI Raids show that Hunter was paid $166,000 per month, not $50,000.

That's a whole lotta hookers and blow!

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (cF8AT)

343 Of course not but it would be nice for someone to explain how our military involvement is going to improve that situation.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (CQ3Qb)

I feel real bad about the Tibetans as well, they didn't deserve what happened to their country. But I'm not going to support making war on China for them.

At the beginning of Gulf War 1 and Gulf War 2, I was all gung ho in favor of American intervention, I remember what it felt like to be that way. But after 30 years of war over there and American deaths over there, not much has actually changed, and I'm sick of it. And everyone's sick of it.

Never Trumper's say "oh look Trump supporters are brainless, they'll go along with anything Trump says." But they've got it completely backwards - it's Trump who realizes his supporters, the entire country, really, except for a few die hards, is Sick to Death of fighting in the Middle East. 30 years now we've been at it, and this is just too damn long. It has to stop. I feel pity for the people there, but not so much pity that I want to continue to see Americans dying there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (Kpl3J)

344
Nice DRESS you have there KRIS.

Posted by: saf at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (5IHGB)

345 325 311 Morning!

Thanks, Kris! You coulda just given us the short form: "This is when bullshit took over art"
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (so+oy)

No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

Kris, would you call this the Motel 6 school of art??

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (90T4r)

346 340 One reason to like it....
If that is Art, then apparently I'm an artist also because I can do that painting with a paint roller and some blue painters tape.
Posted by: doesky2 at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (Zpygp)

See, the very fact that I could do that too means it's not art.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

347 Oh, you want to make laws holding us liable? Watch this.

Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (uGHnY)

348 The big problem with the Middle East is that we have cultures geared towards long-term, on-and-off, varying intensity warfare/blood feuds. And they're coming into conflict with cultures whose wars are generally somewhat limited in time and scope and are not acclimated to long-term fuckery like goes on in the sands. It's a bad situation without a good solution.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not in the 'stan at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (AM1GF)

349
I do think that art is more than portraits and landscape paintings.

I reject the notion that art is whatever the hell the artist says it is.

There is a lot of social contrarianism masquerading as "art" these day put out by talentless hacks really really wishing hard they had talent.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:35 AM (8XRCm)

350 Thank you for the congrats, everyone! The Mr and I have been trying for a few years, so it's a bit nerve wracking, but exciting nonetheless.

My suggestion to name the tot Wicket was met with derision. Sorry, ace.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:35 AM (rP4OC)

351 I really appreciate CBD giving me this forum and it's him you should thank. I really like talking about this stuff and it's great to finally have a responsive audience. The vast majority of my students were warm bodies, filling seats, and checking off course requirements. And they let me know it too.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:35 AM (OyyDO)

352 My point was nobody gave a fuck about the Kurds until last week. Then
everyone is super duper concerned about the Kurds because OrangeManBad.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (FiUMj)

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Why would anyone say something so stupid? Do a little research. The Kurds have been our allies for generations. We haven't always been good allies to them, but they have been to us.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (LISuA)

353 If you have eyes, a brain, and a soul then you are qualified to judge art. Period.

I guess two out of three ain't bad.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (HaL55)

354 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.
********
CONGRATS!!!!

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (BqBId)

355
Thanks, Kris! You coulda just given us the short form: "This is when bullshit took over art"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (so+oy)

No, that's DADA.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

Oooh, DADA better get down to CVS, because it's gonna need some ointment for that burrrrrrrrn.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (rP4OC)

356 "I'm surprised the art spawned from this period was not just some insane scribbling."

Can I interest you in some etchings?

Posted by: Pablo Picasso at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (Kpl3J)

357 Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (oZ6kz)

This work of hate is considered important because Mondrian hated the same things the people who deem things important hate: truth and beauty and love.

It's degenerate trash. It's not art, it's a statement. A very nasty one.

If I had the money I'd buy it for the privilege of burning it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (5aX2M)

358 @realDonaldTrump 3 minutes ago

President Obama said that he did not have the right to sign DACA, that it will never hold up in court. He signed it anyway! If the Supreme Court upholds DACA, it gives the President extraordinary powers, far greater than ever thought. If they do what is right and do not let.....

....DACA stand, with all of its negative legal implications, the Republicans and Democrats will have a DEAL to let them stay in our Country, in very short order. It would actually benefit DACA, and be done the right way!

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (cF8AT)

359 Bank Records obtained through FBI Raids show that Hunter was paid $166,000 per month, not $50,000.

That's a whole lotta hookers and blow!
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (cF8AT)

Hmmm. I wonder what his tax returns show?

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (Ed8Zd)

360 No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

DADA had it's own "we don't give a fuck" appeal even if lots of charlatans flocked to it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (y7DUB)

361 Why would anyone say something so stupid? Do a
little research. The Kurds have been our allies for generations. We
haven't always been good allies to them, but they have been to us.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (LISuA)

Strategic allies of necessity. They're full-on communists.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (CQ3Qb)

362 I remember talk of "staying in X forever" or "no exit strategy" from the
left, and they even rejected the demonstration that we've never left
Germany and Japan.

We decimated Germany militarily and forced the unconditional surrender of the Japanese after dropping not 1, but 2 atomic weapons on them. We then instituted martial law in both countries for several years.

We have never done anything close to that to any of the multitude of wars we've fought since then.

And all that said, I still don't know why we have boots on the ground in Germany.

Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (DU2N9)

363 I guess two out of three ain't bad.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (HaL55)

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Now THATS art.....

~Meatloaf

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (8XRCm)

364 The Mondrian is very attractive. This is what house painting is- sharp, square lines, clear colors. It's like he's snarking on artists.

Imagine what his predecessors, The Dutch Masters, would say...

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (1+J19)

365 the balance here is better thought of as dynamic equilibrium (mondrian's word) or dynamic harmony. mondrian's insight into the nature of the universe, that it is made of forces in endless adjustment of equilibrium rather than made up of things independent of each other finds analogy in cosmology, not that Mondrian is trying to illustrate relativism.

btw: kris, well done, as always. i appreciate your bringing insight to what is so easily dismissed. i learned something!

Posted by: mjc at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (Pg+x7)

366 And gratz to the MWR family, soon to grow! Woo hoo!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not in the 'stan at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (AM1GF)

367 No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)
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And see, I'm okay with a good bit of Dadaism. Because it tends to depict something visually within the medium.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (DuZls)

368 Boba Fett's a Mondrian.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

369 I really appreciate CBD giving me this forum and
it's him you should thank. I really like talking about this stuff and
it's great to finally have a responsive audience. The vast majority of
my students were warm bodies, filling seats, and checking off course
requirements. And they let me know it too.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:35 AM (OyyDO)

Sounds like my poor English professor sister. The horror stories I hear from her.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (rP4OC)

370 Every war begats the next war as it's always been and always will be.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (wWJIH)

371 Bank Records obtained through FBI Raids show that Hunter was paid $166,000 per month, not $50,000.

That's a whole lotta hookers and blow!
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM (cF8AT)

Basically, $2 million/ year for a job in an industry that he has no experience in or knowledge of, and for which he is required to show up, what? A few times a month?

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (Ed8Zd)

372 "Since the question was about our mission in Syria I'm talking Syria. We also have the same mission in Iraq."

Syria is a Russian client, and has been for longer than I've been alive. Not our problem.

Iraq can't decide if they're our ally or Iran's puppet.

And if our mission is taking territory from ISIS, that has nothing to do with fighting Turkey.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (kc91d)

373 If you have eyes, a brain, and a soul then you are qualified to judge art. Period."

so eyes, brain, soul, period?

Hmmm

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (6qErC)

374 Basically, $2 million/ year for a job in an industry that he has no experience in or knowledge of, and for which he is required to show up, what? A few times a month?
Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (Ed8Zd)

His job was to be bought and stay bought. He did the job well, apparently.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:39 AM (NWiLs)

375 Thanks, Kris! You coulda just given us the short form: "This is when bullshit took over art"
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:29 AM (so+oy)

No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris

................

lol.. OK.

Whenever I read about these German/Euro art movements, I'm always reminded of the Mike Myers (as Dieter) sketches on SNL - SPROCKETS.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2019 10:39 AM (so+oy)

376 Of course not but it would be nice for someone to explain how our military involvement is going to improve that situation.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (CQ3Qb)

For the last 25 years or so, we our military involvement has been minimal. We have supplied them with arms, some but minimal air support, but most important a strong restraint on the Turks simply by our strong and direct indication to the Turks that an outright attack and massacre on the Kurds would no be tolerated. By and large the Kurds have defended themselves. Not typical of the needs of most of our erstwhile allies in that region.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:39 AM (85Gof)

377 Hunter was paid $166,000 per month, not $50,000.

Who knows, maybe they have a stratospheric cost of living, but I'm guessing that's a little higher than what your average Ukrainian earns per month.

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 10:39 AM (Ry8mf)

378 Never Trumper's say "oh look Trump supporters are brainless, they'll go along with anything Trump says." But they've got it completely backwards - it's Trump who realizes his supporters, the entire country, really, except for a few die hards, is Sick to Death of fighting in the Middle East. 30 years now we've been at it, and this is just too damn long. It has to stop. I feel pity for the people there, but not so much pity that I want to continue to see Americans dying there.
Posted by: Tom Servo

It's because we are not really fighting a war.

We ended a two front world war in four years.
We can't beat a bunch of goat fuckers in thirty years.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2019 10:39 AM (Ol/Jg)

379
*looks at 'painting'*
*checks calendar*

Nope not April 1st.

CBD is messing with us.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (sHVgQ)

380 And all that said, I still don't know why we have boots on the ground in Germany.
Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (DU2N9)

Strategic placement for our forces, just in case.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (Ed8Zd)

381 The vast majority of my students were warm bodies, filling seats, and checking off course requirements."

Gotta keep enrollments up. Those diversity administrators won't pay for themselves...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (6qErC)

382 361 No. In Kurdistan proper its a competing two tribe patriarchy. Think an erudite Afghanistan.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (PQRcz)

383 The Kurds need to cut a deal with Erdogan, that's the only real way this ends. He gets some of Eastern Syria, they get some, and they sign a pact. Militarily, he's not strong enough to take and hold all of it, but he needs to make a show of strength to establish a bargaining position. So do they.

Continued American involvement slows this process down, it does not help it. The 2 sides need to fight it out, and they need to establish their respective military abilities without any external faces putting thumbs on the scale. After that, they can negotiate. Or they can continue killing each other to no purpose, their choice.

Posted by: Pablo Picasso at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (Kpl3J)

384 Ann Barnhardt this morning has a link to a google translation of an article by Marco Tosatti who quotes Eugenio Scalfari who reports a conversation with Pope Francis where Frances explicitly denies the divinity of Christ.

So the pope is neither Italian nor Christian.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (vWMNq)

385 Anyone who wants a primer on some of the sad history of the US-Kurdish on and off alliance can read William Safire on the topic from 2003. It's always good to read Safire on anything, besides. The man could really write.

https://tinyurl.com/y5vzx7qe

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (LISuA)

386 " the very fact that I could do that too means it's not art."

So if I type "To be or not to be" does that make me a writer? If I can silk screen a picture of Marylin Monroe, am I just as good an artist as Andy Warhol? In the context of it's time this sort of thing was original in it's approach. AGAIN, not saying I'm a big fan of it, nor would I pay a large sum of money for it. Nor would it likely draw me into a specific room in an art gallery. It's just a thing some guy did during WWI and some people, be they snob dolts or not, like it. And to your point, doing something incredibly similar over the next 100 years diminishes the art factor.

Posted by: WTP at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (66rlH)

387
Whenever I read about these German/Euro art movements, I'm always reminded of the Mike Myers (as Dieter) sketches on SNL - SPROCKETS.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
--------

*serves up a plate of Bauhaus*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (sHVgQ)

388 President Obama said that he did not have the right to sign DACA, that it will never hold up in court. He signed it anyway! If the Supreme Court upholds DACA, it gives the President extraordinary powers, far greater than ever thought.

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (cF8AT)
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No, it gives super-special Presidents super-special powers. Like those that covet the power of China overlords for "doing good".

The judges have already decreed that some Presidents are more co-equal than others.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (DuZls)

389 I'd love to know how many hours Biden actually put in on that job (query - include all golf games?) and then figure out his hourly wage.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (Ed8Zd)

390 And all that said, I still don't know why we have boots on the ground in Germany.
Posted by: DocJ at October 09, 2019 10:37 AM (DU2N9)

Originally because Western Europe didn't want to speak Russian. Now it's just a base like any other base and is justified by necessary logistics.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (wWJIH)

391 Which is why I can't stand judges.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (DuZls)

392
http://bit.ly/2nwiL41
*******
Dick's CEO Says Anti-Gun Policy Shrank Company by a 'Quarter Billion Dollars'
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit

Dick's is a clothing store.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (aKsyK)

393 Re 384.

Tosatti does say that Scalfari is "unreliable". But still ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:42 AM (vWMNq)

394 Basically, $2 million/ year for a job in an industry
that he has no experience in or knowledge of, and for which he is
required to show up, what? A few times a month?

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (Ed8Zd)

VERY common with Congressional offspring and THAT'S what they don't want too much light shone on.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:42 AM (CQ3Qb)

395 Frances explicitly denies the divinity of Christ.

Holy moly! The Pope isn't Catholic, after all. Glad that's settled. Next thing we need more info on is whether or not bears really do shit in the woods.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:42 AM (LISuA)

396 No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris

"Ich lieb' dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht"

Posted by: t-bird at October 09, 2019 10:42 AM (xSo9G)

397 Some of you really need to read up on CJTF Operation Inherent Resolve.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:42 AM (VpIIl)

398 Pistol range target. Most points for yellow.

Posted by: DOGGFISH at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (NVP/+)

399 Now it's just a base like any other base and is justified by necessary logistics.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (wWJIH)

Yup spot on...oh an of course the beer and the food

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (85Gof)

400 Eh, dada might be crap. but no one is trying to tell me that a urinal with a signature on it is the most visionary beautiful thing EVAH. It's statement art, even Duchamp would have admitted that.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (oZ6kz)

401 Basically, $2 million/ year for a job in an industry

that he has no experience in or knowledge of, and for which he is

required to show up, what? A few times a month?

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (Ed8Zd)

What, you wouldn't hire a junkie and pay him $2 mill a year? H8tr.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (LISuA)

402 Dick's is a clothing store."

Yep. Lots o' spandex n' stuff. That's about it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (6qErC)

403 (incidentally, mondrian started as a representational artist - his landscapes can be wonderful. they become more symbolist (he was a theosophist) and abstract.

throughout his career he sometimes helped pay the bills by ocassionally selling flower watercolors. they can be exquisite..

google mondrian landscape or mondrian flowers for some examples.)

Posted by: mjc at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (Pg+x7)

404 333 I'm curious about this line, particularly the word 'balance'. Balance is
the last thing I think of in this picture. Balance suggests either
symmetry or equivalence, as in equal weight. To me this picture is
balanced in the same way Harvard's admissions policies are racially
balanced.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:26 AM (mvenn)

I can't speak for Kris, but what I gleaned from her analysis is that the balance is in the weight given to each of the colors. No one color overwhelms the rest. Red is dominant and draws the eye, but you still have the cool weight of blue and the bright lift of yellow for balance, all of which is grounded on a white palette that lets the eye rest instead of being overwhelmed with nothing but color.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:32 AM (rP4OC)

Yes. Balance isn't just about symmetry. That's the easiest way to achieve it, but it's also boring. Objects in art have aesthetic and visual traits too. Here, the colors have tone, brightness and "weight" in different proportions. These are something your brain unconsciously picks up on, and if they are not properly controlled and manipulated, it throws the painting off. You look at it an you feel something isn't right but you may not know what it is, but your brain did.

The colors in this work have faded some over the years too, so it might be harder to see.

I think MWR explains it better.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (OyyDO)

405 So the pope is neither Italian nor Christian.
>
And bears don't shit in the woods?

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (WkmoA)

406 Not a meme but would make a good commercial...

@Solmemes1

These people wont be able to handle the Thunder!

https://tinyurl.com/y2qlbjxm

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (cF8AT)

407 Gawd, I miss Safire.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (gd9RK)

408 We should move our bases in Germany over to Poland, just to piss Frau Merkel off.

Posted by: Pablo Picasso at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)

409 lol. Erdogan doesn't want a deal with the Kurds. He wants to wipe them out. It's what the Turks do- genocide.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (VpIIl)

410 "Ich lieb' dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht""

DA DA DA...

Say, anyone have a Volkswagen?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (6qErC)

411 If that were true, there'd be even less yellow.
Posted by: Insomniac

*******

Exactly! THAT'S what I'm talking about!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (mvenn)

412 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Congratulations Beth!! That is wonderful to hear.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (Ed8Zd)

413 Posted by: Pablo Picasso at October 09, 2019 10:40 AM (Kpl3J)

Israel and Iran should do the same ? I'm being snarky though it did work with Egypt. Eventually .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (wWJIH)

414
Ann Barnhardt this morning has a link to a google translation of an article by Marco Tosatti who quotes Eugenio Scalfari who reports a conversation with Pope Francis where Frances explicitly denies the divinity of Christ.

Can't say I care much for Frank Bergoglio, but Ann Barnhardt is a little *twirls finger around ear*.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (7rVsF)

415 399 Now it's just a base like any other base and is justified by necessary logistics.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (wWJIH)

It's all about that base.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (NWiLs)

416 Nicholas Kristof @NickKristof

It's true that NBC eventually ousted Matt Lauer. But it also fired @AnnCurry, an outstanding journalist who had tried to stand up for women at NBC. If NBC had then fired Lauer and kept Curry, it would have been infinitely better off in every way.

@brianstelter
New statement from NBC: "Matt Lauer's conduct was appalling, horrific and reprehensible, as we said at the time. That's why he was fired within 24 hours of us first learning of the complaint. Our hearts break again for our colleague."

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (BqBId)

417 Dick's is a clothing store.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 10:41 AM (aKsyK)

... with soccer balls.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (aS1PU)

418 CJTF Operation Inherent Resolve"

Another O'Bumbles era artifact...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (6qErC)

419 It's like the yoko ono of art. What you guys do?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (jYnPD)

420 The big problem with the Middle East is that we have
cultures geared towards long-term, on-and-off, varying intensity
warfare/blood feuds. And they're coming into conflict with cultures
whose wars are generally somewhat limited in time and scope and are not
acclimated to long-term fuckery like goes on in the sands. It's a bad
situation without a good solution.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not in the 'stan at October 09, 2019 10:34 AM

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It all falls back to the British. They divided up the Middle east they had under their control after WWII. They went wonky and started drawing straight lines in the desert without regard to Tribal affiliation and centuries old blood feuds and made up brand spanking new Countries that were dysfunctional from the get go.

Those Countries could only be controlled by despots and strong men with the usual predictable results.

It's pretty much all their fault.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (JUOKG)

421 It's degenerate trash. It's not art, it's a statement. A very nasty one.

If I had the money I'd buy it for the privilege of burning it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (5aX2M)
Wow, that would be a great YouTube channel: Billionaire Degenerate Art Bonfires

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (DJFLF)

422 We should move our bases in Germany over to Poland, just to piss Frau Merkel off.
Posted by: Pablo Picasso at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)

yes that would feel good and stick it to her but Germany still has better infrastructure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (85Gof)

423 I like it a lot.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (lwiT4)

424
Is Mondrian Russian?

Cuz that's a great painting of Red Square.

Thank you! Thank you!

I'll be here all week.

Try the shashlik!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (kauXV)

425 "The Kurds need to cut a deal with Erdogan, that's the only real way this ends."

Erdogan's end game is all the Kurds dead, with Turks and Arabs replacing them. The commie Kurds have committed terrorist attacks against Turkey, but Erdogan's policy has been to not distinguish between them and any other Kurd, anywhere.

There is no possibility of a deal there.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (kc91d)

426 relativity not relativism

Posted by: mjc at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (Pg+x7)

427 414 Ann Barnhardt is a little

Sure. But this isn't just her opinion.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (vWMNq)

428 I remember talk of "staying in X forever" or "no
exit strategy" from the left, and they even rejected the demonstration
that we've never left Germany and Japan.

I will even bet that if Trump ever sends troops to war, you will hear "no exit strategy".

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:33 AM (DuZls)

My idea of exit strategy is not packing out your trash after you make the rubble bounce.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (9Om/r)

429 We are supposed to play Tic Tac Toe on it and he can't even spell PETE!!

Posted by: saf at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (5IHGB)

430 Mondrian put more work into this painting than Hunter Biden put into any of his jobs.

therefore

Hunter is the better abstract artist!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (G546f)

431 It's all about that base.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (NWiLs)

A Meghan Trainor fan? I had no idea.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (wWJIH)

432 Wait, all your home security systems rely on electricity...?! Do the crooks know this and that thefts under $950 are only misdemeanors in CA?

Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (CDGwz)

433 Here, the colors have tone, brightness and "weight" in different proportions."

Which is totally artificial. Who determines that "yellow" is "too bright"?

I like yellow. Less red.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (6qErC)

434 I dub this...

When Jack Kirby got ~~writer's~~ artist's block.

Posted by: mindful webworker - square, daddio (cliknic) at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (fBape)

435 This isn't art, it is a too close photograph of the Partridge Family bus.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (YslsA)

436
This work of hate is considered important because Mondrian hated the same things the people who deem things important hate: truth and beauty and love.

It's degenerate trash. It's not art, it's a statement. A very nasty one.

If I had the money I'd buy it for the privilege of burning it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 10:36 AM (5aX2M)

You know who else thought it was degenerate?

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (OyyDO)

437 412 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Congratulations Beth!! That is wonderful to hear.
Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (Ed8Zd)

Outstanding! Congratulations!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (jYnPD)

438 30,000 years ago a caveman produced great art in France.

30,000 years from now archaeologists will think this is wallpaper.

Posted by: x at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (nFwvY)

439 >>Gawd, I miss Safire.

I miss the rains down in Africa.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (ZLI7S)

440 We should move our bases in Germany over to Poland, just to piss Frau Merkel off.

Posted by: Pablo Picasso at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)

yes that would feel good and stick it to her but Germany still has better infrastructure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM (85Gof)

but still, it is probably worth doing. I know, let's hold a referendum. The Germans and Poles can vote, who want's us the most. Half of Germany will have to say no for political reasons.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (n13/j)

441 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Congratulations Beth!! That is wonderful to hear.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM

****

Indeed...Congratulations!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (axyOa)

442 436 You know who else thought it was degenerate?

Hilter?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (vWMNq)

443 Ann Barnhardt this morning has a link to a google translation of an article by Marco Tosatti who quotes Eugenio Scalfari who reports a conversation with Pope Francis where Frances explicitly denies the divinity of Christ.
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Got no dog in this fight: but that kind of sounds like the New-style Whistleblower.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (DuZls)

444 Gonna take some time to paint the things we never had

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (NWiLs)

445 397
Some of you really need to read up on CJTF Operation Inherent Resolve.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:42 AM (VpIIl)

It has it's own .mil website. The slogan: "One Mission, Many Nations".
The stated mission on their cool web site is not to just defeat ISIS but to "defeat the ideology of ISIS". In other words it's a never-ending war that will never ever end. Perfect.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (CQ3Qb)

446 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:03 AM (FiU

Pretty stupid to make such a claim here when we've been talking about the Kurds and the issues involving them in Iraq and Turkey since about forever.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (xAZkj)

447 432 Wait, all your home security systems rely on electricity...?! Do the crooks know this and that thefts under $950 are only misdemeanors in CA?
Posted by: PG&E at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (CDGwz)

The Purge III.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (jYnPD)

448 It all falls back to the British."

Careful. When I say that there's a bit of "oh noes, brit bashing"...

but yeah, thanks to the formerly Great Britain.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (6qErC)

449 I most definitely have noticed the use of color.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (tH5fk)

450 "You know who else thought it was degenerate?
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (OyyDO)"

I have no problem with Hitler the art critic. It's his work in other disciplines that is troublesome.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (oZ6kz)

451 http://bit.ly/2AT5nKp
*******
Anti-Trump Whistleblower Attorney Worked Directly For James Clapper

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (BqBId)

452 I miss the rains down in Africa.

Right?

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (tH5fk)

453 Israel and Iran should do the same ? I'm being snarky though it did work with Egypt. Eventually .
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM (wWJIH)

With Iran, the risk is nuclear weapons, which Bammy made ever so more likely. Border wars between small groups are one thing, but we really don't want a nuclear war breaking out, too many bad possibilities. But note how Iran has cooled it's jets lately after a lot of deliberate provocations. They thought they could push Trump into starting a war, but he didn't bite. Now I suspect they're confused and surprised, and pondering what to do next.

Being truly unpredictable is one of the greatest assets a leader can possibly have, in both war and in negotiations. It confounds the enemy, and very few people are able to do it successfully.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (Kpl3J)

454 De Stijl, UPA cartoons, Minimalist composer John Adams, I don't hate any of them, but sometimes (or even most of the time), you just want more.

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (2RBkF)

455 *puts on serial killer glasses*

the red is blooid
the white is flayed skin
the blue is just the tarp underneath
the yellow is pee

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (G546f)

456 The Kurds need to cut a deal with Erdogan, that's the only real way this ends.

Never happen. Erdogan has a problem in that a quarter of his population and a chunk of the eastern land area is historically Kurdish. Erdogan is a bad dude anyway; he'd rather have an enemy to shoot as a means of unifying the rest of the population around (what I bet is) his unpopular rule.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (LISuA)

457
Crap.

You degenerates gave me a Toto earworm.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (8XRCm)

458 You know who else thought it was degenerate?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (vWMNq)
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I'm pretty sure Hitler thought the sky was blue.

And I believe that Hitler thought that if he slipped off a podium he would fall to the ground.

Gravity = Nazism.

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (DuZls)

459 455 *puts on serial killer glasses*

the red is blooid
the white is flayed skin
the blue is just the tarp underneath
the yellow is pee
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:49 AM (G546f)

*slowly scoots away from vmom*

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (NWiLs)

460 I miss the rains down in Africa."

Individually or in toto?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (6qErC)

461 You know who else thought it was degenerate?
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (OyyDO)

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Yup. Sometimes a blind squirrel finds an acorn.

This is degenerate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (yQyH6)

462 This isn't art, it is a too close photograph of the Partridge Family bus.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada

Holy shit!

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (tH5fk)

463 Huh, inneresting !

Mondrian is one artist I can usually recognize on sight.

Kris, thanks (as always) for the commentary, which was especially interesting today.

I had heard of de Stijl, but I never knew their particular theories and beliefs.

Always liked Constructivism in an abstract kind of way, mostly because I like Rodchenko and Mayakovsky, and / or feel sorry that they tied themselves to such destructive politics. What they could have done as Americans.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (wscsn)

464 Congratulations Beth and Mr.Beth!!

Posted by: grammie winger at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (lwiT4)

465 Gonna take some time to paint the things we never had
Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (NWiLs)

--------

I want to see it painted painted painted
Painted black

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (ZYB2s)

466 I'd bet $1000 before this week you had no idea what a Kurd was.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 09, 2019 10:03 AM (FiU

1988 called. It wants it's concern back.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (jYnPD)

467 >>Gawd, I miss Safire.

I miss the rains down in Africa.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (ZLI7S)

I miss being a miss.

Posted by: The Regretful Transexual at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (kauXV)

468 "You know who else thought it was degenerate?"

Calling such an abstract thing "degenerate" kinda fits the same pattern, in a reverse manner, as praising it as some sort of genius, profound statement. Not that you did that, Kris, but either way seems rather silly to me.

Posted by: WTP at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (66rlH)

469 From the Morning Report thread:
The NBA Is Just One Of Many American Firms In Thrall To China

One thing to keep in mind is that the NBA is *a* company. It's not a monopoly because it (technically) competes with football and baseball and hockey and soccer (OK, stop laughing) and such. The whole of the NBA is one GIANT COMPANY.
Some people seem to not grasp that when they get all incensed about ~whatever~ concerning them. (I don't think that's necessarily the issue with folks here, but you might forget it when discussing with others.)

Posted by: GWB at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (dDmj8)

470 I miss the rains down in Africa."

Individually or in toto?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM

Well done.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (0W3mK)

471 "The stated mission on their cool web site is not to just defeat ISIS but to "defeat the ideology of ISIS"."

Do they admit the ideology is Islam?

I suspect no.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (kc91d)

472 its, autocorrect.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (jYnPD)

473 Contemporary threats to the U.S. come largely from a few places. The ME, South Asia and Africa. That is demonstrably true. The wise policy is to kill those threats where they live before they grow to be bigger threats. Period. To think we can sit here and not forward deploy forces to those regions, and still remain safe is a fairy tale that you could prove as such with a short review of history.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (VpIIl)

474 MWR, congrats!!!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (G546f)

475 Congratulations Beth!! That is wonderful to hear.

Congrats.. I love Babies... My youngest Grand child is 11.. I miss the little ones

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (O2RFr)

476 Congratulations to MWR.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (Uu+Jp)

477 472 its, autocorrect.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (jYnPD)

It's autocorrect!

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (NWiLs)

478 "The Kurds need to cut a deal with Erdogan, that's the only real way this ends."

Erdogan's end game is all the Kurds dead, with Turks and Arabs
replacing them. The commie Kurds have committed terrorist attacks
against Turkey, but Erdogan's policy has been to not distinguish between
them and any other Kurd, anywhere.

There is no possibility of a deal there.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 10:46 AM

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And the Kurds won't leave, so it's a stalemate with no end in sight.

We can't stay there forever. Now that isis is for all practical purposes destroyed our reason for being there is gone.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (JUOKG)

479 but still, it is probably worth doing. I know, let's hold a referendum. The Germans and Poles can vote, who want's us the most. Half of Germany will have to say no for political reasons.
Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (n13/j)

Yeah? You gonna pay to reproduce the huge infrastructure we have in Germany in Poland? Because? Just to stick it to merkel?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (85Gof)

480 How can I miss you if you never leave?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (wWJIH)

481 The colors and geometry are appealing to me. I would have this in my house.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (lwiT4)

482 My brain sees imbalance. However you might define it.

Though there are some who think my brain IS imbalanced.

I guess I play with words like this dude played with colors.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (mvenn)

483 Though I joke I do appreciate Kris.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (tH5fk)

484
It all falls back to the British. They divided up the Middle east they had under their control after WWII. They went wonky and started drawing straight lines in the desert without regard to Tribal affiliation and centuries old blood feuds and made up brand spanking new Countries that were dysfunctional from the get go.

Those Countries could only
controlled by despots and strong men with the usual predictable results.

It's pretty much all their fault.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 10:45 AM (JUOKG)

I blame Labour.

Posted by: Koba at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (MwFQu)

485 Congrats to MWR as well...

*here, wanna diaper Genie?*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (6qErC)

486 Yuck. That's not art.

Fight me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (xPJvm)

487 367 No, that's DADA.
Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)
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And see, I'm okay with a good bit of Dadaism. Because it tends to depict something visually within the medium.
Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:38 AM (DuZls)

I actually don't mind Berlin DADA sometimes. They at least had method to the madness. And calling DADA trash isn't a criticism either. They would agree. That was the point.

Posted by: Kris at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (OyyDO)

488 460 I miss the rains down in Africa."

Individually or in toto?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (6qErC)

we can't answer that question, that's something that a hundred men or more could never do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (Kpl3J)

489 This is art alright; the art of no-talent bullshit.

And no amount of flowery bullshit is gonna make this smell like movie theater popcorn.

I was born on a day, but it wasn't yesterday.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (Z4rgH)

490 441 In exciting news, I'm 19 weeks preggers, so there's that, too. Sometime in February Mr. MWR and I will be welcoming Mr. MWR, Jr to the world.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 10:27 AM (rP4OC)

Congratulations Beth!! That is wonderful to hear.

Posted by: LASue at October 09, 2019 10:44 AM

****

Indeed...Congratulations!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (axyOa)

Congratulations!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (RD7QR)

491
The slogan: "One Mission, Many Nations".
The stated mission on their cool web site is not to just defeat ISIS but to "defeat the ideology of ISIS". In other words it's a never-ending war that will never ever end. Perfect.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

The forces of goodness in a perpetual battle with the forces of badness.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (aKsyK)

492 Why didn't the Kurds get their own country after WWI? Every other ethnic group in every other Central Powers empire that was broken up got one.

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (7HtZB)

493 435 This isn't art, it is a too close photograph of the Partridge Family bus.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2019 10:47 AM (YslsA)

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FUN FACT: Mondrian made big bank painting dragons and faire maidens on the side of Chevy vans in the '70's.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (ZYB2s)

494 You gonna pay to reproduce the huge infrastructure we have in Germany in Poland?"

Just rename those parts "Poland"

For the lulz...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (6qErC)

495 @NewsBreaking 15 seconds ago

DEVELOPING: Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) has officially endorsed Joe Biden for President, choosing him over her colleague from California, Sen. Kamala Harris

Hahahahaha!

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (cF8AT)

496 I love stained glass and there are some great designs in this sort of style of rectangular panes but the difference is that the play of light through glass makes it alive while paint on a canvas that doesn't "move" is flat and dead. That's why we've seen all these famous paintings that use light and dark to direct your eye and create life and movement even if something is abstract or if it's got people in it.

I can't even talk myself into liking this. It looks too much like the interior decorating style where different walls are painted bright but different colors... which is also sort of neat because you *walk through it* causing the size and relationship of the colored panels to shift.

Posted by: Synova at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (BD/yx)

497 Mondrian is one artist I can usually recognize on sight.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 09, 2019 10:50 AM (wscsn)
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So can I. I pulled up AOS, rolled my eyes and said "Mondrian".

Posted by: Axeman at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (DuZls)

498 There is no possibility of a deal there.

Let Ergodan lose a coupla dozen tanks and back to the status quo ante we go.

Back to the this is not more important than list and...
than knocking off the Mullahs before they get the bomb.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (FhXTo)

499 Does someone have DADA issues?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (vWMNq)

500
The NBA Is Just One Of Many American Firms In Thrall To China

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So. The NBA kowtows to Commie China over a fucking tweet.

We now live in a country where the NBA tucks tails and rolls over to appease Commie dictators.....

..... but SOUTHPARK becomes the shining beacon of Americas committment to free speech and human rights.

What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (8XRCm)

501 This isn't art, it is a too close photograph of the Partridge Family bus.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada

LOL. You're not wrong. Art is subjective of course. But give me some 3M painters tape and I could have done this painting. I have zero artistic ability but I could have pulled that off. Need a room painted though, I am your guy. My pet peeve is paint on the baseboards and or ceilings.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (0W3mK)

502 How can I miss you when you won't go away?
I keep telling you day after day
But you won't listen, you always stay and stay
How can I miss you when you won't go away?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (NWiLs)

503 It would help if the point of war were victory. It hasn't been for at least two generations now, and that's a huge problem.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not in the 'stan at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (AM1GF)

504 359 Bank Records obtained through FBI Raids show that Hunter was paid $166,000 per month, not $50,000.
_________________

From what I've read, his firm (which was him and a couple of other grifters) got paid $166k a month, and Hunter's personal cut of that was the $50k a month.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (k4dH2)

505 Devin Nunez has won his lawsuit against Teh Twatter.

Posted by: Augustine at October 09, 2019 10:54 AM (BDZWU)

506 Why didn't the Kurds get their own country after WWI? Every other ethnic group in every other Central Powers empire that was broken up got one.

Posted by: josephistan at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (7HtZB)
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Are you sure?

Posted by: The Basques at October 09, 2019 10:55 AM (DuZls)

507 but still, it is probably worth doing. I know, let's
hold a referendum. The Germans and Poles can vote, who want's us the
most. Half of Germany will have to say no for political reasons.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:48 AM (n13/j)

Yeah? You gonna pay to reproduce the huge infrastructure we have in Germany in Poland? Because? Just to stick it to merkel?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (85Gof)

It aint just Merkel. Remember Herr Schoeder? Even Donald Rumsfeld talked about Old Europe. I am not Rumsfeld fan but I can see reality. Just the other day there was a story that Poland was the most loyal Nato ally and they actually are spending on the military. It would not bother me much if we sent some assets to Poland.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 10:55 AM (n13/j)

508 @473

Oh my G-d!!!

The kill them there so we don't have to kill them here bullshittery from the Bush years.

Fun Fact:

There have been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil and territories over the last 20 years of fighting them there.

It's bullshit.

End the forever wars!

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 09, 2019 10:55 AM (qRKeC)

509 Let it rain!

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 10:55 AM (ZLI7S)

510 They went wonky and started drawing straight lines in the desert without regard to Tribal affiliation and centuries old blood feuds and made up brand spanking new Countries that were dysfunctional from the get go.

Those Countries could only controlled by despots and strong men with the usual predictable results."

If you look closely at the line dividing Jordan from Saudi Arabia, you will see a little squiggle in the middle of the desert. The old joke is that's where someone bumped Churchill's elbow while he was drawing the map. It's still called Winston's Hiccup.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (Kpl3J)

511 Hey! We're running out of money quickly. If we're going to stand against the increasing flow of nationalism and Trumpism, we need you to stand with us! We can't do it alone.

Won't you chip in $3?

Posted by: The Unitied Nations at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (DMUuz)

512 but SOUTHPARK becomes the shining beacon of Americas committment to free speech and human rights.

What a stupid time to be alive.

Even SouthPark backed off Mo after Comedy Central almost got VBIED'd.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (FhXTo)

513 FUN FACT: Mondrian made big bank painting dragons and faire maidens on the side of Chevy vans in the '70's.
Posted by: Cicero

and that's all right with me

Posted by: x at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (nFwvY)

514 Yuck. That's not art.

Fight me.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (xPJvm)
---
Pow!
Bop!
Wham!
Zing!

Posted by: Adam West Batman at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (DuZls)

515 Damn.

It's always the Basques.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (tH5fk)

516 Comfortably Smug @ComfortablySmug
1h
It is mind boggling what happened here

FACT: NBC killed a story investigating serial rapist Harvey Weinstein because Weinstein threatened to expose NBC's rapist, Matt Lauer. My God.

NBC executives at the time like Jeff Zucker need to speak on the record about what they did.

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (BqBId)

517 505
Devin Nunez has won his lawsuit against Teh Twatter.

That was quick. I only heard about the lawsuit yesterday. Presumably I should have read the article I saw more carefully.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (vWMNq)

518 407
Gawd, I miss Safire.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 10:43 AM (gd9RK)

I do too. Did you ever read "Scandalmonger"? Great book.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (LISuA)

519
Brennan -- who once warned that "our Nation's future is at stake" -- told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that he may have been misled on the extent of Trump's connections to Russia.
"Well, I don't know if I received bad information but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was," Brennan said. "I am relieved that it's been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government over our election."

Frog march him into the defendant's seat and let the revelry begin!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (pNxlR)

520 I like red starfish.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (Pzzpr)

521 Yeah? You gonna pay to reproduce the huge infrastructure we have in Germany in Poland? Because? Just to stick it to merkel?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:52 AM (85Gof)

Yes, actually. Poland will pay for a lot of it, because they want it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (Kpl3J)

522
I have an old boardgames inspired by Mondrian:

"IDO"

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2235/ido

Don't judge me!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (kauXV)

523 Question, COULD the US President use US troops to defend the Kurds LEGALLY?

Syria is a UN Member State, and we have invaded it without either a declaration of war, or UN Security Council Mandate. Beyond getting rid of ISIS, which we did, we have no Cassus Belli.

Neither Syria, nor Turkey, are allies of Al Q or the Taliban, ergo the War on Terror Act is moot.

Turkey is also a member of NATO.

With this legal framework in place, any military action would be considered illegal, and the TROOPS themselves are placed in legal jeopardy.

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM (NgKpN)

524 Why didn't the Kurds get their own country after WWI?"

They did - sort of. Then there was the Brit give and take w/Turkey that put the kibosh on that.

FWIW, I have no doubt that far too much of the entire ME/Levant troubles over the last 75 years are due to the Brits.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM (6qErC)

525 Alright Flounder, sock_rat_eez, Ha. Which one of you ordered the snow?

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM (rvQcO)

526 How can I miss you when you won't go away?
I keep telling you day after day
But you won't listen, you always stay and stay
How can I miss you when you won't go away?

You could start by untying her !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM (arJlL)

527 That painting is to art as carrots are to chili.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM (0W3mK)

528 517 505
Devin Nunez has won his lawsuit against Teh Twatter.

That was quick. I only heard about the lawsuit yesterday. Presumably I should have read the article I saw more carefully.
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (vWMNq)
===

Wait, it appears I may have jumped the gun. More like his lawsuit cleared a major hurdle or something.

Posted by: Augustine at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (BDZWU)

529 Regarding Toto and "Africa," this:

https://tinyurl.com/j7v43qt

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (ClOmq)

530 515 Damn.

It's always the Basques.
Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (tH5fk)

I hate those fuckers.

Posted by: Roland at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (RD7QR)

531 You know people trash modernist literature but at least most of it still has the nuts and bolts right. If Pynchon is lesser than, I dunno, Henry James, it's not because his crafting ability is less. There's a dearth of soul.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (oZ6kz)

532 513 FUN FACT: Mondrian made big bank painting dragons and faire maidens on the side of Chevy vans in the '70's.
Posted by: Cicero

and that's all right with me
Posted by: x at October 09, 2019 10:56 AM (nFwvY)

did he come up with the 3 wolf moon? Or was that thomas kinkaide?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (Kpl3J)

533 I'm 19 weeks preggers

*********

You're FIRED!!!

Posted by: Faauxcahontas at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (mvenn)

534 Would everything settle down if Trump sent the 50 soldiers back to Syria??

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (90T4r)

535

Mondrian was a Theosphist
Painting often pissed
On Rip Torn canvas
With confetti flourishes
Till Hollywood called him squarist

Posted by: saf at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (5IHGB)

536 Yes, actually. Poland will pay for a lot of it, because they want it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (Kpl3J)

LOL..I doubt it. Do you understand the huge infrastructure we have in Germany?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (85Gof)

537 That's not me!

Posted by: Art at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (DuZls)

538 Basques are a tad creamy, why not a consomme?

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (oZ6kz)

539 /sock

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (mvenn)

540 Yes, actually. Poland will pay for a lot of it, because they want it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 10:57 AM (Kpl3J)

So, you want MORE American troops on the border with Russia?

by that logic, you would be OK with Russia putting Military Advisors, and TANKS, in Mexico?

Posted by: Don Q at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (NgKpN)

541 > Hey! We're running out of money quickly.
> Posted by: The Unitied Nations

Remember trick or treat for UNICEF? Put the kiddies to work building a slush fund for corrupt Third World bureaucrats.

Posted by: Theodosius Atrocius at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (vA4O3)

542 525 Alright Flounder, sock_rat_eez, Ha. Which one of you ordered the snow?
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM (rvQcO)

I rubbed my amulet of whiteness last night and juju'd you some epic white stuff.

Pics not available.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (jYnPD)

543 529 Regarding Toto and "Africa," this:

https://tinyurl.com/j7v43qt
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (ClOmq)

ROFL!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (Kpl3J)

544 Calling such an abstract thing "degenerate" kinda fits the same pattern, in a reverse manner, as praising it as some sort of genius, profound statement. Not that you did that, Kris, but either way seems rather silly to me.
Posted by: WTP at October 09, 2019 10:51 AM (66rlH)

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Out of context, it's a pleasant piece of graphic design. Partridge family van.

In context, it's a direct insult to our shared cultural legacy - which is a wonderful one, and Mondrian and his ilk spit on it.

Every time you stare at some filthy brutalist or postmodernist edifice desecrating the skyline of City X, remember that. It's the same impulse that makes both bad things.

It's literally degenerate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (yQyH6)

545 That painting is to art as carrots are to chili.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 09, 2019 10:58 AM

May we borrow this?

Posted by: The SAT at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (DMUuz)

546
mmmmmm...... Tomato Basque soup sounds good today.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (8XRCm)

547 531 You know people trash modernist literature but at least most of it still has the nuts and bolts right. If Pynchon is lesser than, I dunno, Henry James, it's not because his crafting ability is less. There's a dearth of soul.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (oZ6kz)

Word

Posted by: Zombie Don Cornelius at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (7HtZB)

548 I'm trying to divide 19 by 4.

5? 5 months preggers.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (tH5fk)

549 So, i get to be the shoe and get to roll first. right ?

i want my money

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (AQBtr)

550 528 More like his lawsuit cleared a major hurdle or something.

I think the story yesterday said that the Virginia judiciary agreed to hear the case. Someone involved lives there.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (vWMNq)

551
The Triumph of Painter's Tape, Number 3

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (pNxlR)

552 Do you understand the huge infrastructure we have in Germany?"

Ja.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (6qErC)

553 meh

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (KUaJL)

554
I rubbed my amulet of whiteness last night and juju'd you some epic white stuff.

-----

ewwwwwww

phrasing?

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (8XRCm)

555 Rubics Cube?

Posted by: Paladin at October 09, 2019 11:02 AM (3YWub)

556 RE: colonies and religion in the last thread. Did anyone ever bring up Jamestown, which predated the Puritan settlement by 13 years?

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 09, 2019 11:02 AM (u5LFV)

557 The metal cover of "Africa" kicks ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

558 Basques are a tad creamy, why not a consomme?
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (oZ6kz)

---------

A rich Basque sets off a homemade regatta quite nicely. Pair it with a complex little portmanteau and you're good to go.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2019 11:02 AM (ZYB2s)

559 Wait, it appears I may have jumped the gun. More like his lawsuit cleared a major hurdle or something.
Posted by: Augustine at October 09, 2019 10:59 AM (BDZWU)

Twitter said fu to the judge on limited discovery or something, and the judge awarded them full trial and full discovery.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:02 AM (jYnPD)

560 548 I'm trying to divide 19 by 4.

4 and 3/4. No one ever does fractions any more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Kpl3J)

561 The metal cover of "Africa" kicks ass.

I actually like that song

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (O2RFr)

562 551
The Triumph of Painter's Tape, Number 3
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (pNxlR)

---------

Mondrian's 3M sponsorship was the tell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (ZYB2s)

563 Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (8XRCm)

LOL.

Our power went out about 12:30. I had to get ready for work in the dark. Luckily I have a good husband, he held the flashlight for me while I put my makeup on.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (rvQcO)

564 Good Morning Jordan61
I'd heard you had snow there.
Not my doing. I blame flounder. Be safe out on the roads.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Tt761)

565 Cubism, of the Rubik's variety.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (0XBlA)

566 552 Do you understand the huge infrastructure we have in Germany?"

Ja.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:01 AM (6qErC)

infrastructure, schminfrastructure.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (Kpl3J)

567 4 and 3/4. No one ever does fractions any more.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Fk that metric shit.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (tH5fk)

568 4 and 3/4. No one ever does fractions any more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Kpl3J)

-----

Im even older.

4 remainder 3

I dont think they teach remaiders in second grade Maths anymore.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (8XRCm)

569
Remember trick or treat for UNICEF? Put the kiddies to work building a slush fund for corrupt Third World bureaucrats.

That was a big activity in which churches' youth groups engaged back in the 60s.

Make the chirrun do it!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (pNxlR)

570 >>Do you understand the huge infrastructure we have in Germany?"

Give it to the Kurds for their new country. Problems solved.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (CQ3Qb)

571 Congrats MWR.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (q80AH)

572 How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (ZLI7S)

573 No one ever does fractions any more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM

Ahem.

Posted by: Refineries & Distilleries at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (DMUuz)

574 We have crossed the Rubik cube.

It's done.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (tH5fk)

575 Lighten up, Francis. It's a painting on a wall. Some guy's opinion of what he thinks should be appealing. By itself, it harms no one, it spreads no diseases. By itself it conveys practically nothing. Now if you want to argue that the descriptions or the hype around it or the artist himself (don't know any more than Kris presented here) is degenerate, and it fits, fine. But the art itself is just a bunch of lines on a canvas(?). To call it degenerate it to give it waaay too much power and to a sense play into the (presumed) degeneracy that surrounds it.

Posted by: WTP at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (66rlH)

576 "FWIW, I have no doubt that far too much of the entire ME/Levant troubles over the last 75 years are due to the Brits."

I blame the people who live in the Middle East. They were just as violent before and during the Ottoman Empire. Had the lines been carefully drawn to give each local chieftan a kingdom of his own, they'd be fighting over that.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 11:05 AM (kc91d)

577 Our power went out about 12:30. I had to get ready for work in the dark. Luckily I have a good husband, he held the flashlight for me while I put my makeup on.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (rvQcO)

We had a flicker after midnight. I blame you guys for my slight inconvenience.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:05 AM (jYnPD)

578 They went wonky and started drawing straight lines in the desert without regard to Tribal affiliation

******

AAnd just like Mondrian, they thought they had achieved "balance".

(Just trying to keep taangentially on topic)

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 11:05 AM (mvenn)

579 I dont think they teach remaiders in second grade Maths anymore."

Cipher'n

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (6qErC)

580 577 Our power went out about 12:30. I had to get ready for work in the dark. Luckily I have a good husband, he held the flashlight for me while I put my makeup on.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (rvQcO)

We had a flicker after midnight. I blame you guys for my slight inconvenience.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:05 AM (jYnPD)

Why is your power out??

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (90T4r)

581 Remember trick or treat for UNICEF? Put the kiddies to work building a slush fund for corrupt Third World bureaucrats.

That was a big activity in which churches' youth groups engaged back in the 60s.

Make the chirrun do it!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM

---

We had to carry those little cans all over the place. Pretty sure half of that money never even left the States. And I doubt the "children" never saw 10 cents on the dollar collected.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (JUOKG)

582 I dont think they teach remaiders in second grade Maths anymore.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM

You'd be surprised how many second grade curricula I'm in these days.

Posted by: The Handmaiden's Tale at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (DMUuz)

583 We had a flicker after midnight."

Did you chug a lug and shout?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (6qErC)

584 Who needs fractions when you have an iPhone?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (ZYB2s)

585 Not feeling the love, Piet

Posted by: Mr White at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (AQBtr)

586 572 How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (ZLI7S)

How long shall he Kill our Profits
while we stand aside and look

Posted by: The GOP-e at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (Kpl3J)

587 569
Remember trick or treat for UNICEF? Put the kiddies to work building a slush fund for corrupt Third World bureaucrats.

That was a big activity in which churches' youth groups engaged back in the 60s.

Make the chirrun do it!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 11:04 AM (pNxlR)

Maybe it's because I was born an old soul, but I knew that whole thing was bullshit the moment I heard of it

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (NWiLs)

588 546
mmmmmm...... Tomato Basque soup sounds good today.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019

*
*

"You left out the best part."

Elaine (archly): "No, I mentioned the Basque."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (ClOmq)

589 The metal cover of "Africa" kicks ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

Didn't know there was one. Interesting.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (9Om/r)

590 576 I blame the people who live in the Middle East.

The Brits did not help by making inconsistent treaties and telling all sides what they wanted to hear.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (vWMNq)

591 Federalist has a good piece up, explaining the good OrangeManBad is trying to do in Syria and how he is trying to extricate us from that particular quagmire.

https://tinyurl.com/y6685r3e

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (LISuA)

592 We had a flicker after midnight."

Did you chug a lug and shout?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (6qErC)

-----

Are you gonna let it all hang out??

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (8XRCm)

593 (Just trying to keep taangentially on topic)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 11:05 AM

You have my admiration.

Posted by: zombie King Cnut at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (DMUuz)

594 *staggers in from meeting, considers the Art*

Hmm. Reminds me of a piece in the MFA. Big square with rounded corners. Upper half was yellow, bottom half was white (or vice versa). The name? Of course. Yellow White. Just...why?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (ejd/p)

595 Who needs fractions when you have an iPhone?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2019 11:07 AM (ZYB2s)

or history.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (n13/j)

596 Why is your power out??
Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (90T4r)

Mine, not. Jordan61, record early snowfall in inland NW, trees down on lines.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (jYnPD)

597 Wlle so far my electricity is on.. I had every candle I owned out and made bunches of ice because I was told i was in the turn off area... Incorrectly...People around here panicked and bought all the ice from stores and there were lines at the gas station... Hate to see what would happen in a real emergency

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (O2RFr)

598 Is this a timecube thread?

Posted by: drerbrererd at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (Wo/WG)

599

A shooting near a synagogue in the eastern German city of Halle left at least two people dead Wednesday, and one suspect was taken into custody, local authorities said.

Footage aired by MDR, the regional public broadcaster, showed a shooter, dressed in green combat gear and a helmet, firing down a street from behind a car with what appeared to be a shotgun and pausing to reload after each shot.

One eyewitness, speaking to local reporters, also described explosions, and several German news outlets reported that the attacker tossed a grenade into the synagogue's cemetery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (aKsyK)

600 Just trying to keep taangentially on topic)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2019 11:05 AM

You have my admiration."

Dude always has an angle. Right or not...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (6qErC)

601 Why is your power out??
Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (90T4r)

You should look through the first half of the ONT comments. We went round and round about that.

Basically because Gavin Newsom and all of his party are fuckheads.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)

602 "The Brits did not help by making inconsistent treaties and telling all sides what they wanted to hear."

As if Arabs ever hear anything BUT what they want to hear.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (kc91d)

603 580 577 Our power went out about 12:30. I had to get ready for work in the dark. Luckily I have a good husband, he held the flashlight for me while I put my makeup on.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (rvQcO)

reciprocation ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (AQBtr)

604 596 Why is your power out??
Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:06 AM (90T4r)

Mine, not. Jordan61, record early snowfall in inland NW, trees down on lines.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:08 AM (jYnPD)

Snow... October.... shudder.... flee, is my advice.

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (90T4r)

605 569
Remember trick or treat for UNICEF? Put the kiddies to work building a slush fund for corrupt Third World bureaucrats.

That was a big activity in which churches' youth groups engaged back in the 60s.

Make the chirrun do it!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019

*
*

I seem to recall that "trick-or-treating for UNICEF" figured in an early Bewitched episode. That's what I always think of when I hear the agency mentioned.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (ClOmq)

606 I really appreciate CBD giving me this forum and

it's him you should thank. I really like talking about this stuff and

it's great to finally have a responsive audience. The vast majority of

my students were warm bodies, filling seats, and checking off course

requirements. And they let me know it too.

It's fun to learn new things to help prevent...um...something. I think.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (HaL55)

607 As if Arabs ever hear anything BUT what they want to hear."

We'll give 'em stuff and they'll WANT to have a nation-state just like us!

/NeoBush

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (6qErC)

608 Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 09, 2019 11:03 AM (Tt761)

Thanks Winston! I slid a few times on the way in but made it to work okay. Lots of trees down because they didn't have time to drop their leaves so they are all weighed down.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (rvQcO)

609 No power, shit on the sidewalks, water shortage and restrictions, unaffordable housing, old diseases , earthquakes and fires.

Other than that California is a great place to live.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (wWJIH)

610 "Africa" metal cover:

youtube.com/watch?v=MH9FyLsfDzw

Posted by: Insomniac at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (NWiLs)

611 The power is on in Texas.

The power is on in Texas.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (DMUuz)

612
Make the chirrun do it!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019

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I remember toting those little cardboard boxes around being an indentured beggar in school.

I took MY cut first. Always.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (8XRCm)

613 reciprocation ?
Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (AQBtr)

She did say work in the dark.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (jYnPD)

614 We'll give 'em stuff and they'll WANT to have a nation-state just like us!

/NeoBush
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If that doesn't work, we'll just move them all here!

Posted by: Also Bush at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (wZ6iv)

615 Nood monkeydoodle

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (6qErC)

616 22 &28
I thought you were affected with a Southern accent

Posted by: the Butcher at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (DIosY)

617 609 No power, shit on the sidewalks, water shortage and restrictions, unaffordable housing, old diseases , earthquakes and fires.

Other than that California is a great place to live.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (wWJIH)

Next we'll be hearing about wimminz turned into Pillars of Salt....

Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (90T4r)

618 People are always saying I'm subjective.

Posted by: Art at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (DuZls)

619 It's good.

But it's no Rothko

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (z79tQ)

620 611 The power is on in Texas.

The power is on in Texas.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2019 11:10 AM (DMUuz)

The power IS Texas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)

621 re Africa. I didn't understand the regular one. I guess i need a country version. I guess it is about travel or seizing the day or something.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2019 11:12 AM (n13/j)

622
But it's no Rothko
Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 09, 2019 11:11 AM (z79tQ)

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I do like their Three Season concealed carry jacket.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 09, 2019 11:12 AM (8XRCm)

623 Lighten up, Francis. It's a painting on a wall. Some guy's opinion of what he thinks should be appealing. By itself, it harms no one, it spreads no diseases. By itself it conveys practically nothing. Now if you want to argue that the descriptions or the hype around it or the artist himself (don't know any more than Kris presented here) is degenerate, and it fits, fine. But the art itself is just a bunch of lines on a canvas(?). To call it degenerate it to give it waaay too much power and to a sense play into the (presumed) degeneracy that surrounds it.

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Nope. It's deliberate. It's not just lines on a canvas (this is canvas and paint), it's a statement, and it has a point.

And it's point is to diminish the achievements of Western civilization, to sneer at it, and spit on it.

And those statements, in aggregation, have been largely successful. Not quite as much in America, but these philistines have conquered Europe, and turned it into a shadow of itself.

It's not just the paintings. It's the buildings. It's the music. It's the literature. It's the politics. And, ultimately, it's the people.

This kind of thing diminishes us all, and I hate it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2019 11:12 AM (yQyH6)

624 Snow... October.... shudder.... flee, is my advice.
Posted by: kraken at October 09, 2019 11:09 AM (90T4r)

It happens, just not this early. Global warming, you know.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 09, 2019 11:12 AM (jYnPD)

625
I blame the people who live in the Middle East. They were just as violent before and during the Ottoman Empire. Had the lines been carefully drawn to give each local chieftan a kingdom of his own, they'd be fighting over that.

I am inclined to believe that the scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Sharif Ali shot the Howitat tribesman who was guiding Lawrence to Prince Faisal's camp for the offense of having drawn water from Ali's tribe's well wasn't apocryphal, based on experiences related in news media in recent years.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019 11:12 AM (pNxlR)

626 I'm trying to divide 19 by 4.

5? 5 months preggers.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2019 11:00 AM (tH5fk)

I'll be 20 weeks on Friday, at which point I'll be 5 months.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 09, 2019 11:13 AM (rP4OC)

627 @NewsBreaking 15 seconds ago

DEVELOPING: Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) has officially endorsed Joe Biden for President, choosing him over her colleague from California, Sen. Kamala Harris

Hahahahaha!
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 09, 2019 10:53 AM (cF8AT)

Isn't Feinstein on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or some such thing? LOL, Isn't it nice to know that a D Senator is willing to endorse a candidate who is a former VP, being investigated for quid pro quo's of foreign countries. She couldn't wait to endorse him, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 09, 2019 11:13 AM (CzD4N)

628 just tell the Wogs Sykes Picot is written and they'll calm down and accept it.

Posted by: x at October 09, 2019 11:13 AM (nFwvY)

629 Remember trick or treat for UNICEF? Put the kiddies to work building a slush fund for corrupt Third World bureaucrats.
That was a big activity in which churches' youth groups engaged back in the 60s.
Make the chirrun do it!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2019
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I think I've already confessed this, but we used to keep the money from the little UNICEF boxes that they gave us.

We were equal opportunity thieves though; also swapped out the money in our church envelopes for buttons. And no one ever knew!

Posted by: IrishEi at October 09, 2019 11:14 AM (sGotD)

630 Noodus simianus major

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2019 11:14 AM (ClOmq)

631 You know who else thought it was degenerate?

Heh. I was hoping someone would go there.

Entartete Kunst.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 09, 2019 11:14 AM (gd9RK)

632 i'm really late to the party, but ...

i went to the Philly art museum (the one w/Rocky's statue) once for an exhibit by one of the Monet, Manet, crowd. They had what I presumed was an early Mondrian landscape. When I saw it, I thought that it was a good thing Mondrian switched to the style in our current picture.

Posted by: yara at October 09, 2019 11:18 AM (rde8g)

633 NOOD

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 09, 2019 11:22 AM (N4xQB)

634 One thing I do love about these latter Mondrian paintings is that they all go "off the page," so to speak.
You can stand in front of one and "see" the lines going off to the walls, intersecting with unpainted other lines in your imagination.
You can pick and choose where more colored rectangles might be, too.
In that way it is very dreamy.
Interesting to see what happened to his vision after he came to the USA.
It got very busy and crowded, like a downtown feel.

Posted by: Nan G at October 09, 2019 11:34 AM (ReJEd)

635 The image at the top is a colorful design. But it's not art.

I'be noticed the walls of words try to convince us this is art. If one has to do that, it ain't art.

Posted by: Sooner at October 09, 2019 11:36 AM (Fs5vw)

636 More coffee. Then I'll try writing again.

Posted by: Sooner at October 09, 2019 11:38 AM (Fs5vw)

637 Ive seen five year olds with deeper and more profound artistic sensibilities. And better composition and execution. So, um, er this is a post from the Babylon Bee. Am I right or am I right, huh?

Posted by: Ray Mota at October 09, 2019 01:22 PM (AVxHd)

638 Remember how the Partidirge Family bus was painted?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 09, 2019 04:47 PM (wGqjj)

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