Gun Thread: Guns For Sale [Weasel]

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Rather than doing a lot of hard thinking and coming up with original content, I think I'm just going to rip off other people's ideas this week. Sound good? Let's jump in and take a look below the fold, shall we?

You just never know where material for the Gun Thread will pop up. Saturday morning over my first cup of coffee I peeked at the EMT, and found krakatoa asking a gun question.

Anyone know what a NIB HK SL8-1 is worth?

Had it for a long time. Fired one at an HK days event back in aught one or so, hated it, then won the raffle for a new one.

Seeing some pretty steep prices for used ones online.

There's a lot of more practical things I could use that kind of money on. Yeah I could shell out the dough to do the G36 conversion which would make it a fantastic piece, but I don't have much of a need for it.

Thinking about throwing it on a gun broker auction and seeing what happens.

Let's start with the question. What is a NIB H&K SL8-1 worth? A very quick and lazy internet search would suggest north of $2,000. That's a lot of money!

The next part isn't really a question, but rather about a G36 conversion, which means changing a bunch of parts and ending up with something like the military version of the firearm. Depending on your budget it might then be configured with a folding stock and a short barrel. I'm not sure if the SL8 can be converted to full auto or not, but if it can, that would be bigly mucho dinero.

The part I'd like to talk about, however, is selling a gun you own and for whatever reason, do not shoot very much.

Let me start off by saying I have never sold a gun. I still have every one I've ever purchased. Why? Well, because I'm lazy, but also because I don't want to be one of the guys who deeply regrets having sold a gun later on. But mostly because I'm lazy. I swear to John Moses Browning that I had a very good reason for buying each and every firearm I own, I just cannot always remember what that good reason was in many cases, so now I'm telling myself they're "investments" which might even be a little bit true!

I know there are dealers who buy entire collections because that's how I've obtained some of the guns I own, and I also suspect a seller would take an enormous hit on the fair market value when going that route. As a result, I have mutual agreements with a couple of very good shooting buddies where we've each agreed to step in if one of us kicks the bucket to make certain our spouses don't sell our guns for what we said we paid for them to begin with. Yeah, it's an old joke, but it's true!

So here are some questions for you all. Do you have a plan for eventually selling your guns? Do you quickly part ways with a firearm that has fallen out of favor, or do you tend to hang onto them as I do? If you're a seller, how do you go about it? Gunbroker or another online marketplace, or on consignment at your local gun shop? How about face to face transactions?

Finally, for those of you who have sold guns, do you regret letting go of any one in particular?

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Here is a very good article on ideas to extend barrel life that I didn't want to get lost in the other links below. It's a great follow-up to the article on barrel throat erosion linked a couple of weeks back. Most barrels chambered in common calibers, and here I'm thinking about the .308 Winchester and the like, will last several thousand rounds under normal use. Some overbore calibers though, for example the 6.5-284 I use in my long range rifle, might last as little as 800 rounds before losing their match grade effectiveness. It would still be a good shooter for a little while, just not for competition, and when a barrel goes bad, it goes bad surprisingly fast.

If your favorite older rifle isn't shooting the way you think it should, have someone take a peek inside with a borescope. Having a rifle rebarreled isn't a big deal, but you will need a competent riflesmith. Look for someone who is willing to spend some time discussing the type of shooting you do and the specific ammo you normally use for best results.

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Link-O-Rama

MSSBlog Review: Remington 870M
MSSBlog: Colt Halts Civilian Sales of AR15
American Rifleman: Henry Lever-Actions
American Rifleman: Savage Precision Chassis Rifles
NRA Goes Pink!
Ammoland: A Look at the Savage Model 99
Ammoland: Sig Sauer P365 SAS (Sig Anti-Snag)
Georgia Arms: Ammo is Plentiful Now - Stock Up


***Mail Bag***

Last week we talked about tips for taking new shooters to the range. We had lots of great suggestions in the comments, and I received this in an email from our shy pal anonymous:

Some suggestions for range time with new shooters:

1.Practice picking up, setting down, and passing a firearm with a blue gun before handling a real gun.

2.Before using bullets, have the new shooter practice stance, trigger control, and sight alignment with an unloaded gun while you rack the slide for them.

3.The first shot is just that. Load only one bullet for the first shot.

4.Very early on, like second magazine, start mixing in snap caps to prevent bad habits from forming.

These are good suggestions, too. Thanks anonymous! Does anyone have any others? How are you all doing with your homework assignment of taking a new shooter to the range, hmmmm?


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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?


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1 st!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:00 PM (EOMoX)

2 Bang!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:00 PM (EOMoX)

3 Double Tap!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:01 PM (EOMoX)

4 now, to read the content.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:01 PM (EOMoX)

5 For sale, is that with the gun show loophole no questions asked?

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2019 07:01 PM (ZCEU2)

6 I'm shopping for groceries and I saw a girl with big boobs and an ewok graphic that looks like che Guevara

I regret I did not approach.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 06, 2019 07:03 PM (6hVit)

7 Gunga la Gunga !

Posted by: JT at October 06, 2019 07:05 PM (arJlL)

8 Hmmmm, Maybe ask that Che wearing idiot is it because you hate ghey men like Che or is it black people that gets you motivated to impound them in prison camps?

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2019 07:06 PM (ZCEU2)

9 .243 Winchesters is supposed to be prone to throat erosion.

Also 22-250.

I would suspect the necked down cartridge has something to do with it.

That and easily pushing rounds down the barrel at 3,000+ fps.

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman
at October 06, 2019 07:06 PM (WEBkv)

10 Still reading content.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:08 PM (JmE56)

11 I would suspect the necked down cartridge has something to do with it.

That and easily pushing rounds down the barrel at 3,000+ fps.

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman
at October 06, 2019 07:06 PM (WEBkv)
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Yep. No doubt.
My match load was just under 3000fps

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

12 For My Pimp Shot My Dealer from earlier post:
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If I don't make it back for the God Given Right thread would someone ask Weasel what chest rig he ended up with? Thanks.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 06, 2019 02:35 PM

Weasel, what chest rig did you settle on?

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at October 06, 2019 03:07 PM

GunfighterINC Kenai model. It's a little pricey at $150, but I like it a lot. Sort of wished it had an adjustable retention screw at that price, but overall very happy with it.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 03:10 PM

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 06, 2019 07:09 PM (Dhht7)

13 10 Still reading content.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:08 PM (JmE56)
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You reading slowly? I kinda skimped out on you guys this week.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:09 PM (MVjcR)

14 Nope. Never sold any of my 3 gunz.
Junior and I have, however, swapped one or two. And without the government's permission!

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:12 PM (JmE56)

15 Just purchased a 350 legend upper. Looking forward to some deer hunting this year.

Posted by: noseitall at October 06, 2019 07:12 PM (lMsxO)

16 i sent this in for fodder use in a gub thread, but, since the subject came up here, i'll toss this out.

you can get a bore-scope from Amazon (use Aces's link) for $50. it plugs into your PC, your tablet or your phone, via USB.

https://www.teslong.com/catalog-c/rifle-bore-scope

you can save snapshots and videos, and their customer service is great. you may have to fuss with the settings to get a usable image, but, once done, yer GTG.

there is a loooong thread about it at snipershide, which is what convinced me to buy it.

https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/gamer-
changer-teslong-bore-scope-finally-a-quality-
reasonably-priced-bore-scope.6953362/page-11#post-7994646

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:14 PM (EOMoX)

17 13 10 Still reading content.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:08 PM (JmE56)
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You reading slowly? I kinda skimped out on you guys this week.
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:09 PM (MVjcR)

Ok, I admit it. I move my lips when I read. Still have to sound things out. And I get confused with things like VEPR.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:15 PM (JmE56)

18 I don't think I have ever sold anything, guns, tools, even vehicles.
It's not my thing I guess.

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2019 07:16 PM (ZCEU2)

19 So, my theory on range time is that 30 to 50 rounds are plenty per session; that a hundred or more rounds in a day doesn't help, and might actually hurt. Of course, I don't have to pay for range time. Anyone else have a different opinion?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 06, 2019 07:17 PM (0RGdN)

20 To heck with SELLING guns. I regret bitterly the few I have sold over the years. But, if you haven't got a Garand,

"CMP is offering a WRA Special Rack Grade for $700. The CMP WRA Special Rack Grade (.30-06) M1 Garand, is a partially refurbished rifle with a refinished M1 WRA receiver, new production criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver is the only part of the rifle that has been refinished. Remainder of the other parts have NOT been refinished.
Receiver will have heavy pitting above the wood line.
Please visit our website for more information on our rifles availability and mail order form."

If the receiver has been refurbished, I can't believe the pitting can be that bad.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2019 07:17 PM (wZ9cV)

21 oh yeah, and you have to download a program to use it on your PC. it's pretty small, considering what bloatware is out there these days.

since i don't have a tablet or a smart phone, i disremember what is needed on those.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:18 PM (EOMoX)

22 I have a Walther PPS that I can't shoot worth shit. I'm so bad with it that I limp wrist it all the time and jam the damn thing. It is completely useless to me and I keep it in one of my cars and never take it out for practice.

No, I won't sell it.

Ever.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 06, 2019 07:18 PM (PHotS)

23 As a result, I have mutual agreements with a couple of very good shooting buddies where we've each agreed to step in if one of us kicks the bucket to make certain our spouses don't sell our guns for what we said we paid for them to begin with.

And how does one get to be a "very good shooting" buddy? Do we actually have to shoot with you? Like at a Momee or something?

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (JmE56)

24 Actually I have a butt ton of single stack 9mm's that I am going to sell. I have no use for them now and my son does not want them.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (JUOKG)

25 number one reason at our house to buy a new toy?

"we don't have one of those..."

especially if it is a rarity or an outstanding deal.

and i don't have to worry: Resident 3vil knows what they are all worth.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (EOMoX)

26 #nevertrustalibertarian
Not Ever
Not even a little bit.

Posted by: Quilp at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (Bf3hj)

27 23 As a result, I have mutual agreements with a couple of very good shooting buddies where we've each agreed to step in if one of us kicks the bucket to make certain our spouses don't sell our guns for what we said we paid for them to begin with.

And how does one get to be a "very good shooting" buddy? Do we actually have to shoot with you? Like at a Momee or something?
Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (JmE56)
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Well that'd be a good start!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

28 Actually I have a butt ton of single stack 9mm's
that I am going to sell. I have no use for them now and my son does not
want them.


Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (JUOKG)

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such as?

serious question.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:22 PM (EOMoX)

29 24
Actually I have a butt ton of single stack 9mm's that I am going to
sell. I have no use for them now and my son does not want them.

Do tell.

Posted by: Some Dude at October 06, 2019 07:23 PM (UFLLM)

30 and, if you don't want to list them here, because OPSEC, maybe we could set up offline communication through Weasel, as i think my moronhorde.com e-mail is still broken?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:23 PM (EOMoX)

31 and i don't have to worry: Resident 3vil knows what they are all worth.
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:20 PM (EOMoX)
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I was mostly kidding about that part - so does WW. I'm really mostly interested in not leaving her a big pain in the neck to deal with.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

32 gotta go so some w*rk in the yard.... BIAB

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:24 PM (EOMoX)

33 Mr Scott, if that batch includes a Beretta Cougar, I'm all ears.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 06, 2019 07:24 PM (0RGdN)

34 30 and, if you don't want to list them here, because OPSEC, maybe we could set up offline communication through Weasel, as i think my moronhorde.com e-mail is still broken?
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 07:23 PM (EOMoX)
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Sure.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)

35 I've sold dozens of my .32's in the endless quest to upgrade my collection. I started collecting 5 years ago, and have replaced many I originally bought. A lot of that is due to experience and a far more critical eye.

Every single pre-war .32 potentially gets the heave-ho until I acquire one that is not upgradeable in any way.

Fortunately, I've reached that condition with many of them now. I can't imagine finding a better example.

How do I upgrade a military Colt 1903 US PROPERTY that was shipped to OSS headquarters, and then on to China Station, where Julia Child was the station manager?

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:24 PM (qbCQr)

36
If the receiver has been refurbished, I can't believe the pitting can be that bad.


Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2019 07:17 PM

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Trust me. If the CMP says it's probably pitted, then it's pitted. Now you might get one or two that are near perfect but the majority are going to be exactly what the CMP says they are. Those guys don't play.


I have been dealing with them since 89 and have bought more than a few Garands/Carbines and their descriptions are usually spot on.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 06, 2019 07:26 PM (JUOKG)

37 How do I upgrade a military Colt 1903 US PROPERTY
that was shipped to OSS headquarters, and then on to China Station,
where Julia Child was the station manager?


Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:24 PM

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Yo ucould have her estate authenticate it?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 06, 2019 07:29 PM (JUOKG)

38 I don't sell any weapons I collect. As I get ready for the eternal dirt nap down the road, I will probably start to give away my collection to younger folks and utes I come across that I feel will appreciate the history and engineering of old, forgotten weapons. Passing the torch so to speak. If they sell them, fine, it will be their choice.

I recently re-barreled a 1917 Lee Enfield SMLE Mark III when she began to keyhole. I found a 1917 barrel at SARCO and she now is a tack driver once again. When the barrel arrived, it was still wrapped in cosmoline and when I cleaned it up it was nice looking down a pristine barrel made over 100 years ago.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 06, 2019 07:31 PM (Z+IKu)

39 I actually was in a thread long enuff to get willowed...

Olddog, do you goto SE wound clinic? Wife goes there. If you see a guy in camo pants and Toyota hat with a dark haired woman in a wheelchair, that's me an the Mrs.

Posted by: FORGER at October 06, 2019 07:32 PM (/5fwJ)

40 I traded away a Springfield 1903 because I didn't know what I had. That was almost 30 years ago, and I regret it terribly, especially when I remember I only paid $250 for it.

Sold a Ruger P345 to the old police chief years ago. He carried it every day and loved it. Don't miss that one a bit.

I've got a Walther PK380 that I won in a raffle and would love to sell it. Hate the damn thing. Just too lazy ton lazy to list it on Gun Broker.

Posted by: Pete Polarek at October 06, 2019 07:32 PM (C1NyB)

41 To the question at hand: I haven't sold any because each represents a step on who I am as a shooter.
I have a cheap crap RG .22 cowboy style SA revolver that is rarely shot. But I bought it when I was a poor broke CW2 pilot at Ft. Campbell. Mrs Red and I spent many an hour with it at one of the post ranges, together with a Taurus knockoff of the SW Model 10.
It deserves that respect. And it may have cost $29.95 just outside the gates in 1975.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:32 PM (JmE56)

42 Only the CIA has (or may have) the records of which serial numbers went to who. And they still think its best not to let any research go forward in that archive. They are impenetrable to logic.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:32 PM (qbCQr)

43 Trust me. If the CMP says it's probably pitted, then it's pitted. Now you might get one or two that are near perfect but the majority are going to be exactly what the CMP says they are. Those guys don't play.

I agree (mostly). Just saying a refinished receiver may be pitted, but other than cosmetics it shouldn't be that bad. I bought my first Garand from their predecessors, the DCM, in 19 for 98 bucks plus shipping. Never been disappointed.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2019 07:33 PM (wZ9cV)

44 I haven't sold any guns - heck, all but one were purchased in the last 5 years. No plans for disposal after mort, just let the kids worry about them. They will have their hands full just dealing with my collection of vinyl, CDs and DVDs. Make them work for their inheritance. Heh!

Posted by: Pod Hamp at October 06, 2019 07:34 PM (RBFmA)

45
I recently re-barreled a 1917 Lee Enfield SMLE Mark III when she began to keyhole. I found a 1917 barrel at SARCO and she now is a tack driver once again. When the barrel arrived, it was still wrapped in cosmoline and when I cleaned it up it was nice looking down a pristine barrel made over 100 years ago.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 06, 2019 07:31 PM (Z+IKu)
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Isn't that great? I had the CMP Custom Shop rebarrel a M1917 several years ago. I can't say enough good things about the job they did and how easy they were to work with.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

46 Yep. No doubt.
My match load was just under 3000fps
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)
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Yeah, all the reading and research I've done indicates 3.000 fps is the point at which barrel life is afffected.

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman
at October 06, 2019 07:34 PM (WEBkv)

47 Hit the gun show this weekend and bought nothing but ammo. I did notice that prices are way down on everything, though.

Posted by: Bert G at October 06, 2019 07:34 PM (OMsf+)

48 Nice job editing, putz.

TO LAZY TO LIST IT.....

Posted by: Pete Polarek at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM (C1NyB)

49 Can anyone recommend a 'smith in Austin/San Antonio/Houston who will work on "old" (1950-ish) rifles and able to fabricate small parts if required?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM (qc+VF)

50 48 Nice job editing, putz.

TO LAZY TO LIST IT.....
Posted by: Pete Polarek at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM (C1NyB)

I've got vowel for sale

Posted by: Insomniac at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

51 The closest ever to selling one was where a gun dealer friend was consignment selling two firearms, a Shield in .40 S&W and the Grand Power in 9mm. So, naturally, get both.

Neither firing nor caring for .40S&W, it somehow quickly ended up in someone else's possession while keeping the Grand Power which up until purchase, didn't realize what a wonderful firearm it is.

No regrets. Don't have .40S&W dies nor brass, would much rather fire The Centimeter.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 06, 2019 07:36 PM (lD3vL)

52 I have a Walther PPS that I can't shoot worth shit. I'm so bad with it that I limp wrist it all the time and jam the damn thing. It is completely useless to me and I keep it in one of my cars and never take it out for practice.

No, I won't sell it.

Ever.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 06, 2019 07:18 PM (PHotS)


1st or 2nd gen? I ask because my carry is a PPS M2 that has never failed to do what I asked it ever, and I'm pretty good at getting autoloaders to fail. It. It has never had a FTF or FTE, or failed to hit an adequate target area, even with my shrieking terrified flinchy trigger-jerking in my flimsy delicate effeminate paws.

In fact, the only time it has ever had a FTF was when a co-worker loaded .380 in it* and couldn't figure out why it would shoot and eject perfectly but didn't feed the next round.

* in his defense, the boxes were right next to each other.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 07:36 PM (t+qrx)

53 Jesus IR stoopid.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 06, 2019 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

54 Posted by: Insomniac at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

I'd like to buy an "o" please.

Cut me some slack. The Norcos for the herniated disk are finally kicking in.

Posted by: Pete Polarek at October 06, 2019 07:37 PM (C1NyB)

55 Olddog, do you goto SE wound clinic? Wife goes there. If you see a guy in camo pants and Toyota hat with a dark haired woman in a wheelchair, that's me an the Mrs.

Posted by: FORGER at October 06, 2019 07:32 PM

No, FORGER. I take her up to Barnes wound clinic. They coordinate everything so well with surgeon and oncologist we've kept all treatments in STL. She prefers that.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 06, 2019 07:37 PM (Dhht7)

56 54 Posted by: Insomniac at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

I'd like to buy an "o" please.

Cut me some slack. The Norcos for the herniated disk are finally kicking in.
Posted by: Pete Polarek at October 06, 2019 07:37 PM (C1NyB)

Pass the dutchie.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 06, 2019 07:38 PM (NWiLs)

57 I think I'm just going to rip off other people's ideas this week. Sound good? Let's jump in and take a look below the fold, shall we?

"immature artists copy, great artists steal." -- William Faulkner

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2019 07:38 PM (DMUuz)

58 Taught my darling bride and four children to shoot. Safety comes first. I had them memorize the four rules of gun safety before they could shoot. Nothing better than a single shot bolt action .22 rifle for starting out (Savage makes nice ones, some sized for kids). Once the basics are ingrained, move up to bigger boom sticks.

So my oldest goes off to college. Ended up at a classmate's family get-together, somewhere outside of town. In due course they broke out some firearms for target practice. They were all amazed when my little girl, all five foot and a buck soaking wet, smoked em all.

Posted by: eastofsuez at October 06, 2019 07:39 PM (U2zca)

59 To the question at hand: I haven't sold any because each represents a step on who I am as a shooter.

Amen to that. Every firearm has a piece of personal history. Handling it is a magical transport back to when it was first admired and purchased.

I still even have that heavy as lead and as accurate as a firecracker Detonics 9mm.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 06, 2019 07:39 PM (lD3vL)

60 Who would ever sell a gun? I offered the price on the Glock in question, but if I had one and even if I didn't like it, wouldn't sell. My advice, keep all your platforms, period.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 06, 2019 07:40 PM (xceTB)

61 Seriously, all. If you're thinking about passing down a firearms collection, you might want to think about a firearms trust, especially if you have any NFA items. Keeps them out of probate and keeps your devisees out of conveyance problems.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:40 PM (JmE56)

62 57 I think I'm just going to rip off other people's ideas this week. Sound good? Let's jump in and take a look below the fold, shall we?

"immature artists copy, great artists steal." -- William Faulkner
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2019 07:38 PM (DMUuz)
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Heh. I'm an artist!

Hey bro - looking forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks, I hope!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

63 35
I've sold dozens of my .32's in the endless quest to upgrade my
collection. I started collecting 5 years ago, and have replaced many I
originally bought. A lot of that is due to experience and a far more
critical eye.





Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:24 PM (qbCQr)

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I like the cut of your jib. Do you have a newsletter?

I generally keep what I buy, but like any other tool, a gub must be worthy of staying in my collection.

For most, it's easy because they have a use or sentimental value. But there are a few that get no breaks. I speak particularly of a carry gun.

The slightest weakness or defect and you're done. I'm uninterested in keeping a gun around that I bought for carry and couldn't shoulder the load. If I want a project or a curio, that's different. I went through a period a couple of years ago where there was some rapid turnover as I tested various rigs. Now we're back in equilibrium.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 06, 2019 07:41 PM (cfSRQ)

64 I've sold a few guns but kept most. The one I wish I hadn't sold was a little Charter Arms 5 shot 38 revolver. I suppose I could get another cheap enough though. It was easy to just carry in my pocket without worrying about shooting myself.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 07:41 PM (Tnijr)

65
So my oldest goes off to college. Ended up at a classmate's family get-together, somewhere outside of town. In due course they broke out some firearms for target practice. They were all amazed when my little girl, all five foot and a buck soaking wet, smoked em all.
Posted by: eastofsuez at October 06, 2019 07:39 PM (U2zca)
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Nice!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:42 PM (MVjcR)

66 Next weekend going to an ultimate guy weekend. Driving the Tail of the Dragon, shooting some handguns, grilling some steaks, drinking some scotch.

Not all at once mind you.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2019 07:43 PM (ZfRYq)

67 Well ,olddog, best wishes and safe travels to you and the Mrs.

Posted by: FORGER at October 06, 2019 07:44 PM (/5fwJ)

68 Great thread, as usual, weasel.

I need to wander, as life is being life, darn it!

Later!

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman
at October 06, 2019 07:45 PM (WEBkv)

69 I've sold a few guns over the years, always private sales to other Virginia residents, which is perfectly legal here. At least for now. Except for a Mosin-Nagant revolver there was always a bit of regret but I got over it. The M-N revolver is such a clutzy mechanism I was glad to see it go.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 07:45 PM (bmdz3)

70
I need to wander, as life is being life, darn it!

Later!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman
at October 06, 2019 07:45 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks pal! Later!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:45 PM (VtyYN)

71
1st or 2nd gen? I ask because my carry is a PPS
M2 that has never failed to do what I asked it ever, and I'm pretty good
at getting autoloaders to fail. It. It has never had a FTF or FTE, or
failed to hit an adequate target area, even with my shrieking terrified
flinchy trigger-jerking in my flimsy delicate effeminate paws.


Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 07:36 PM (t+qrx)
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I can attest to both the excellence of that particular PPS and hogmartin's effiminate flinchy shooting style.

He can likewise attest to my terrible taste in vintage firearms. Speaking of which...

The rebuilt Mauser C96 got the leaf spring replaced on the rear sights, so they no longer fly of when you shoot it.

Except now the trigger doesn't want to engage consistently. It's plenty springly, but sear seems loose. Anyway, it's in pieces again as I ponder this latest challenge.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 06, 2019 07:46 PM (cfSRQ)

72 You guys are making me feel better about not thinning the herd! Not that I really ever seriously considered it.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:47 PM (MVjcR)

73 Hey bro - looking forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks, I hope!
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:41 PM


The Lord willin' and the creeks don't rise, I'll be there Saturday!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2019 07:48 PM (DMUuz)

74 Also never sold a purchased gun.

I have 2 Keltec PF9s that I could probably use the money more than the pistol. Replaced sra blasters with a Sig P365 and one was supposed to get sold.

Nope.

If it shoots it stays.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2019 07:48 PM (ZfRYq)

75 I sold off many of early attempts at collecting every .32 ever made. With 2 exceptions, everything made post-WWII was liquidated and not replaced. CZ's, various Beretta's and Star's, mostly.

The great re-focus was a year ago.

Also, not collecting any Nazi military issued .32's has been challenging. Finding a "commercial" version made during the war and not waffenampt'd is ...difficult.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:49 PM (qbCQr)

76 Yup.
Great thread again Weazs.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2019 07:49 PM (axyOa)

77 76 Yup.
Great thread again Weazs.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2019 07:49 PM (axyOa)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:50 PM (MVjcR)

78 Oh, forgot to mention never sold one but have lost them off the canoe

It happens.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2019 07:50 PM (ZfRYq)

79 I'm with blaster.
If a bullet comes out one end, it stays.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2019 07:51 PM (axyOa)

80 Eastofsuez, very nice. It's gratifying when you see someone carry on the tradition.
I took my son and his bud to a CMP shoot once after spending range time with them. They both out shot me; bud went on to the Marines and did fine.
Of course, they were shooting the pea-shooter AR 15 while I was shooting the finest military weapon ever, thank you, Mr. Garand. And they beat me by 2 points, dammit!

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 07:51 PM (JmE56)

81 Put me down in the "never sell" column- my goal in collecting is to eventually have one of everything. I'm trying to imagine what I would do if I somehow acquired multiple identical gubs and didn't have enough room in the safes for all of them; the thought makes me uncomfortable.

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at October 06, 2019 07:51 PM (f0Pv6)

82 A.H. Lloyd - you're the guy with the Dreyse?

I have a dozen now. I'm Searching far and wide for one of the first 700, that went in the initial contract to the Prussian Police. It's going to take beaucoup luck, and a few years, I suspect.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:52 PM (qbCQr)

83 I've got vowel for sale
Posted by: Insomniac at October 06, 2019 07:35 PM


Faint a faint?

Gofyn am ffrind.

Posted by: Morons Cymru at October 06, 2019 07:54 PM (DMUuz)

84 The club we belong to has a program to help spouses or family members dispose of the deceased collection. It's called Helping Hands and the club establishes a value for each piece then holds an auction open to club members. The money raised all goes to the next of kin. These are private sales. Since most members are Virginians it is a perfectly legit set up. Of course, none of the pieces are class 3 or require any other paperwork. Buyers do have to show proof of residency.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 07:54 PM (bmdz3)

85 Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 07:54 PM (bmdz3)
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That is really great!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 07:55 PM (MVjcR)

86 This will scandalize the book threaders, but I also thin my library from time to time.
This is because a lot of my books are military history and deal with weapons, equipment, tactics, etc.

A few years ago I did a major purge of books that were simply wrong about a lot of this stuff. I didn't know it when I bought them, but after years of research, I figured out that a bunch of these guys just crib from each other and repeat the same stupid, false tropes. So I dumped a bunch of them.

I see firearms in the same way. The ones I've gotten rid of were defective in some way - they didn't pan out the way I wanted and I could use the proceeds to get something that actually worked.

The thing is, experience has made me both more willing to part with a failed purchase but also less likely to make a failed purchase. So the collection was growing quite nicely until the canoe accident.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 06, 2019 07:56 PM (cfSRQ)

87
I have a dozen now. I'm Searching far and wide
for one of the first 700, that went in the initial contract to the
Prussian Police. It's going to take beaucoup luck, and a few years, I
suspect.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 07:52 PM (qbCQr)

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Yeah, that's me.

Do you have a cheat or trick to ease the pain of reassembly? I'm thinking of using a modified tent stake or something to channel the spring while I try to push in the bushing. I can get it apart easily enough, but getting that spring to go back is a real pain.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 06, 2019 07:59 PM (cfSRQ)

88 Can't bear to sell them. Only once - an old S&W Model 14 when I was young and penniless. Next acquisition, probably an old Ruger Bearcat with "brass" trigger guard from a buddy, followed by a new SIG P365XL.

Then I'll stop. Truly. I can stop any time I want...

Except I need a Henry lever action .22 to go with the Bearcat.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 06, 2019 07:59 PM (k3g2v)

89 Thanks Weasel....you are a genteleman and scholar...well... a gentlemen...well...uhhhh...hey, thanks Weasel.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 06, 2019 08:00 PM (+ZtlV)

90 🤔

Winning a rifle in a raffle could be ambiguous, depending on one's accent.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 08:01 PM (t+qrx)

91 89 Thanks Weasel....you are a genteleman and scholar...well... a gentlemen...well...uhhhh...hey, thanks Weasel.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 06, 2019 08:00 PM (+ZtlV)
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And you're a remarkably bad judge of character!
Thanks, man.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:01 PM (MVjcR)

92 86 This will scandalize the book threaders, but I also thin my library from time to time.

Heh. Me too.
I have a few hundred infectious disease, epidemic history, genetics/science, science history, and geology. Not a stinker pop-sci in the bunch.

Finding a used book store that will give me a buck each has been difficult. And I'm not listing 300 books on Amazon and spending my incipient retirement shipping paperbacks.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 08:02 PM (qbCQr)

93 They canceled the gun show here this weekend cause the building had an outbreak of Legionaries disease when it was used during the state fair. Over a hundred sick and one dead.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:02 PM (Mm4NK)

94 Two links here, one for the Garand Collectors Association. If you are a Garand owner/fancier, they produce a TERRIFIC journal. If you're not a member, you ought to be. https://thegca.org/

The other is for a .pdf of a complete back issue of the GCA Journal with an amazing story , scroll down to page 14 of the Journal. http://tinyurl.com/y2gtd5zz

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 08:02 PM (2qPhT)

95 Skook,

The Henry levEr action .22 is the first gun I bought for my youngest, if you don't count the Red Ryder.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 06, 2019 08:03 PM (PkVlr)

96 Any range reports this week? Not me, but I did hit the reloading bench after a summer off. Hornady Match 52 grain HPBT .223, Reloder 10x in mumblety grains.
My wet, rusted ARs shoot them sub-moa. If I don't f*ck it up.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:03 PM (JmE56)

97 Thinking about that Charter undercover .38 makes me wonder what might make a better replacement. It would have to be at least lighter and / or thinner. Hammerless, 5 shot ok.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:03 PM (Tnijr)

98 94 Two links here, one for the Garand Collectors Association. If you are a Garand owner/fancier, they produce a TERRIFIC journal. If you're not a member, you ought to be. https://thegca.org/

The other is for a .pdf of a complete back issue of the GCA Journal with an amazing story , scroll down to page 14 of the Journal. http://tinyurl.com/y2gtd5zz
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 08:02 PM (2qPhT)
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The GCA is a great organization and the Journal is amazing.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

99 They canceled the gun show here this weekend cause the building had an outbreak of Legionaries disease when it was used during the state fair. Over a hundred sick and one dead.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Hey...c'mon over, we've closed the lake on account of Blue-green algae bloom.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 08:04 PM (2qPhT)

100 And you're a remarkably bad judge of character!

Thanks, man.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:01 PM (MVjcR)

So's Heidi~ Lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 06, 2019 08:04 PM (+ZtlV)

101 HOME

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2019 08:05 PM (85Gof)

102 Went to a Florida gun show this weekend.

Was surprised to find out that after Marjory Stoneman Douglas school shooting not only did they raise the state age to purchase long guns to 21 they started a 3 day wait for long guns too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 06, 2019 08:05 PM (1g7ch)

103 'Over a hundred sick and one dead.'

Wow! Doesn't that stuff happen because of nasty HVAC systems?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:05 PM (Tnijr)

104 "Next weekend going to an ultimate guy weekend.
Driving the Tail of the Dragon, shooting some handguns, grilling some
steaks, drinking some scotch.



Not all at once mind you.





Posted by: blaster"
If you want some suggestions for roads that are just as good or better than the "dragon" and nowhere near as crowded or over-policed, let me know.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:06 PM (Mm4NK)

105 Mr. Lloyd.
I've never had a problem with re-assembly after receiving one and giving it the "storage cleaning".

...guess I just have the correct grip & wrist jujitsu.

Colt 1903's on the other hand require 20 minutes of trying to get the internal barrel lugs to align. I just can't get the knack no how.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 08:06 PM (qbCQr)

106 I can attest to both the excellence of that particular PPS and hogmartin's effiminate flinchy shooting style.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 06, 2019 07:46 PM (cfSRQ)


I'm pretty proud of both of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je7_wMfiMsc

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 08:07 PM (t+qrx)

107 the state age to purchase long guns to 21 ...
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Well, I have to say that I feel better that David Hogg can't buy one. Cold comfort, but there it is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 08:07 PM (2qPhT)

108 Have only sold one firearm and regret doing so. In 1984 I sold my S&W Model 66 .357 to a friend for $200 cause I didn't"need" a wheel gun anymore. That was the weapon I used when going through the police academy. Now I would love to find one in great shape that I could afford. Only good to come out of the sale was that my friend ended up using it in a self defense shooting a killed a punk drug dealer who was assaulting his sister. So at least I can feel good about that.

Posted by: Redinabluestate at October 06, 2019 08:08 PM (AxzxO)

109 "Wow! Doesn't that stuff happen because of nasty HVAC systems?

Posted by: freaked"

In this case it appears it was the hot tub exhibit of all things. And all they did was walk past them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:08 PM (Mm4NK)

110 Nurse,

A Henry lever .22 is fine purchase for kids of any age. A good choice for a youngster.

Henry also makes lever action shotguns. One is a .22 LR (can't imagine it would be good for anything but mice, small ones at that) and a .410. The .410 may be a good garden gun.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 06, 2019 08:08 PM (k3g2v)

111 The Legionella outbreak was due to spray from hot tub displays.

It happened once before at a Home Depot.

The bacteria is only transmitted as a water aerosol,
and is not communicable human-to-human.

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 08:09 PM (qbCQr)

112 96...
10X is a solid powder for medium sized, high pressure cartridges. And it meters well too. As far as range reports go, I managed to finally take out my WASR AK47. I'm an AR guy, and remain so. But shooting the WASR at steel was a blast.

Posted by: PacosMojo at October 06, 2019 08:10 PM (zAm0h)

113 "Hey...c'mon over, we've closed the lake on account of Blue-green algae bloom.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

Heh! I haven't seen anything on the news about that.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:11 PM (Mm4NK)

114 The usual patient with Legionella pneumonia is:
over 50, overweight, male, smoker, with Type II diabetes, and coronary artery disease.

Probably owns guns, and yells at kids on the lawn, too.

In other words, ...morons.

[I had to do it. I denounce myself]

Posted by: retropox at October 06, 2019 08:13 PM (qbCQr)

115 Ewww that's nasty. Makes you want to never go out in public.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:14 PM (Tnijr)

116 Looking at an AR in 6.5 Grendel. What say ye?

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 08:15 PM (UUkQp)

117 112 96...
10X is a solid powder for medium sized, high pressure cartridges. And it meters well too. As far as range reports go, I managed to finally take out my WASR AK47. I'm an AR guy, and remain so. But shooting the WASR at steel was a blast.
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 06, 2019 08:10 PM (zAm0h

Pacos, it took a fair amount of reloading experience and range time, but 10X is the one. Especially metering. Doesn't require the handle to chop individual grains to get a flow.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:15 PM (JmE56)

118 "Next weekend going to an ultimate guy weekend.
Driving the Tail of the Dragon, shooting some handguns, grilling some
steaks, drinking some scotch.

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I'm with Robert here. When Hwy 129 was just a back road up to Tennessee, its was interesting enough, but just another mountainish back road.

Now, every yut, yahoo, and squid, from Florida to Wisconsin trailers up/down here and behaves as though they're a superbike hero after tootling through there.

Hundreds and hundreds, probably thousands. It's a regular circus.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 08:15 PM (HTHlp)

119 They still got one guy in pretty serious condition in the hospital. Me and the family went to the fair but we only went in that building to use the restrooms and didn't go anywhere near the tub display.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:15 PM (Mm4NK)

120 Remington 870 Wingmaster first gun I owned. Purchased in the mid 70's. I need a new barrel. Any tips from the horde?

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the at October 06, 2019 08:16 PM (SMeCf)

121 120 Remington 870 Wingmaster first gun I owned. Purchased in the mid 70's. I need a new barrel. Any tips from the horde?
Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the at October 06, 2019 08:16 PM (SMeCf)
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Check Brownells or even Remington. Barrel swap on a shotgun is simple.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (VtyYN)

122 An AR in 6.5 Grendel would be a fine choice!

Posted by: Hansel at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (yxDqn)

123 Heh! I haven't seen anything on the news about that.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert

Here, http://tinyurl.com/yxkzrzzx

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (HTHlp)

124

I have 2 pistols, a shotgun and 4 rifles. All of which are fine shooters and get used.

Not really sure why I would sell any.

The play toys are 3 black powder revolvers (repros) that also get fired.

My kids know that these weapons are theirs, to be kept/disposed of as they see fit.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (KATBx)

125 "I'm with Robert here. When Hwy 129 was just a back
road up to Tennessee, its was interesting enough, but just another
mountainish back road.



Now, every yut, yahoo, and squid, from Florida to Wisconsin trailers
up/down here and behaves as though they're a superbike hero after
tootling through there.



Hundreds and hundreds, probably thousands. It's a regular circus.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"


Not to mention the semi drivers that get misdirected by their GPS and try to take it as a "short-cut" and end up stuck in one of the curves.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (Mm4NK)

126 122 An AR in 6.5 Grendel would be a fine choice!
Posted by: Hansel at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (yxDqn)

ISWYDT.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:19 PM (JmE56)

127 I find absolutely nothing funny about jokes involving arms.

Posted by: Grendel at October 06, 2019 08:21 PM (2qPhT)

128 Range report: Friday was 357 magnum day. I was at Cabelas earlier this week and Mrs. JTB suggested I look at their Gun Library just for fun. They had a stainless Ruger Security Six made in 1982, 6 inch barrel, with the original box, paperwork, and a good quality holster. All for a VERY attractive price. Since I can resist anything except temptation, I asked to examine it.

Not sure it was used much. The trigger was as expected for a Ruger and the cylinder locked up like a bank vault. Even the forcing cone was pristine. Yeah, it followed me home.

BTW, the Security Six was discontinued in 1986, replaced by the GP100. The Six series has a fantastic reputation. And it's not just nostalgia.

Using commercial 38 specials and elbows braced I could keep 3 inch groups, sometimes smaller, at 25 yards. Not too bad for a new to me gun and commercial ammo. I had similar results with 357 magnums. I believe I can do a lot better with my cast bullet hand loads once I get used to the trigger.

A big surprise was how comfortable it was to shoot the magnum rounds. These were standard power 357s but the recoil was no big deal. The Security Six is not expecially heavy but the grip and balance made it easy.

Something I've mentioned in earlier gun threads, my better groups were shot off hand in double action. I still have no idea why that would happen but it looks impressive.

Sorry for the long winded range report. I've wanted a Security Six for a long time and I am really pleased. Developing loads for this piece will be a lot of fun.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (bmdz3)

129 No suggestions for a better replacement for a CA Undercover 38? Can't weigh more than 12oz.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (Tnijr)

130 "Symptoms of exposure to microcystin include abdominal pain, vomiting and
diarrhea, liver inflammation and hemorrhage, acute pneumonia, acute
dermatitis,kidney damage and potential tumor growth promotion,"

Sounds like a great place for a swim Mike!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (Mm4NK)

131 Salt pork & beans in a clay pot off to the side overnight in the fireplace. We'll see. First time trying this.

Posted by: a life spent waiting on the potatoes at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (Bf3hj)

132 I'm not impressed by your Mattel plastic gun, Grendel.

Or your mom, for that matter.

Posted by: Beowulf, who carries a .45AARP 1911 at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (qbCQr)

133 I find absolutely nothing funny about jokes involving arms.
Posted by: Grendel at October 06, 2019 08:21 PM (2qPhT)

No? Ever hear the joke about the girl with no arms ?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2019 08:23 PM (85Gof)

134
Not to mention the semi drivers that get misdirected by their GPS and try to take it as a "short-cut" and end up stuck in one of the curves.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 06, 2019 08:18 PM (Mm4NK)

Driving over to Gorham, NH yesterday. Came to the roadside memorial to the seven bikers who got wiped out by the illegal alien in a semi.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:23 PM (JmE56)

135 Thanks Weasel. Remington is one of the places I've checked. I can literally buy a new 870 for the price of the barrel. They are not, IMHO, a comparable gun. I have considered buying a new one just for the barrel.

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the at October 06, 2019 08:23 PM (SMeCf)

136
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (bmdz3)
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Congratulations and nice report! Thanks JTB!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:24 PM (VtyYN)

137 135 Thanks Weasel. Remington is one of the places I've checked. I can literally buy a new 870 for the price of the barrel. They are not, IMHO, a comparable gun. I have considered buying a new one just for the barrel.
Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the at October 06, 2019 08:23 PM (SMeCf
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Really? I'd check Brownells then.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:25 PM (VtyYN)

138 Guns for sale? Whut about machines? Got any Machines For Sale?

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at October 06, 2019 08:26 PM (ChOpP)

139 All my guns will be left to the kids. I have a dozen shotguns of high quality but nothing that comes in a compartmentalized leather case. I apologize for using a big word

Posted by: G marks the spot at October 06, 2019 08:26 PM (Js8Dx)

140 Looking at an AR in 6.5 Grendel. What say ye?


Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 08:15 PM (UUkQp)

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it's just another upper... Do It!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 08:27 PM (EOMoX)

141 I find absolutely nothing funny about jokes involving arms.
Posted by: Grendel at October 06, 2019 08:21 PM (2qPhT)


Me either.

Posted by: Michelle Field at October 06, 2019 08:27 PM (aS1PU)

142 129 No suggestions for a better replacement for a CA Undercover 38? Can't weigh more than 12oz.
Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:22 PM (Tnijr)
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S&W Model 36??

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:27 PM (VtyYN)

143 Will do. This is why I come here.

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 08:28 PM (SMeCf)

144 Looking for recommendations for an AR 15 manufacturer (5.56). Local gun shop has Sons of Liberty brand but I want to explore more options.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 06, 2019 08:28 PM (duxRF)

145 JTB, that is one of several holes in my 3-piece collection - nothing in .357. I feel somewhat - unmanly.
I'd love to have a lever gun and SW in .357.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:29 PM (JmE56)

146 Will do. This is why I come here.
Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 08:28 PM (SMeCf)
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Let us know what you find. I'd trust Brownells.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:29 PM (VtyYN)

147 Will do

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 08:31 PM (SMeCf)

148 "S&W Model 36??"

I was thinking something a little more modern. Those are kind of heavy aren't they?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:32 PM (Tnijr)

149 144 Looking for recommendations for an AR 15 manufacturer (5.56). Local gun shop has Sons of Liberty brand but I want to explore more options.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 06, 2019 08:28 PM (duxRF)
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I like S&W, but there are a crazy number of manufacturers. The M&P line seems decent (to me).

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:32 PM (VtyYN)

150
Next weekend going to an ultimate guy weekend.
Driving the Tail of the Dragon


Looked that up in the Urban Dictionary. GOOD GRIEF!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2019 08:32 PM (aKsyK)

151 148 "S&W Model 36??"

I was thinking something a little more modern. Those are kind of heavy aren't they?
Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:32 PM (Tnijr)
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Not sure about the weight. They seem pretty light to me.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:33 PM (VtyYN)

152 Well, early day tomorrow. Life things gotta get done. Much as I hate to crap out early.
Thanks, Weasel and all you gunny Morons.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:33 PM (JmE56)

153 I'd love to have a lever gun and SW in .357.
Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:29 PM (JmE56)


I agree. I haven't got either, but a revolver and a lever gun in a common cartridge just sounds right.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 08:34 PM (t+qrx)

154 "Symptoms of exposure to microcystin include abdominal pain, vomiting and
diarrhea, liver inflammation and hemorrhage, acute pneumonia, acute
dermatitis,kidney damage and potential tumor growth promotion,"

Like when the toxic waste got dumped on the POS hood in Robo Cop.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 06, 2019 08:34 PM (UFLLM)

155 A new Model 36 is 19.5 oz.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:34 PM (VtyYN)

156 Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2019 08:33 PM (JmE56)
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'night amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:35 PM (MVjcR)

157 freaked @ 148- Look at the Ruger LCR .357. Mine is still on my right hip now after attending worship service.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 08:36 PM (UUkQp)

158 Not positive, but don't think you'll find an all-steel snub lighter than a Model 36. Think everything lighter than those [or similar snubs like an inexpensive Taurus 85 or an expensive/rare Colt Magnum Carry] gets into alloy gunz.


Gubs!


Thanks Weasel!


Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 08:36 PM (QDnY+)

159 *Finally, for those of you who have sold guns, do you regret letting go of any one in particular?*

Yes. A Model 870 shotgun with bottom eject.

Money was tight.

SMDH @me.

Posted by: tbodie at October 06, 2019 08:36 PM (nRs0E)

160 Now that I'm 29...twice, my biggest dilemma will be figuring who gets what.
Not selling anything.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2019 08:36 PM (axyOa)

161 My pleasure rhomboid!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:37 PM (VtyYN)

162 Also planning on a lever rifle/revolver combo.


Have the lever rifle - Uberti repro of a Yellow Boy/Model 1866, in 45 Colt. The revolver will either be an Eye-talian repro, or a Ruger Blackhawk in that caliber.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

163 159, tbodie - a Remington Model 29. maybe?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 06, 2019 08:38 PM (k3g2v)

164 Diogenes!

I'd still like meet at the range one of these days. I would like to hear what you have to say about my youngest heading down to San Diego as well.

Smooches!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 06, 2019 08:38 PM (PkVlr)

165 .45-70 would be a nice choice for a lever/revolver combo.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 08:39 PM (t+qrx)

166 The LCR is appealing if I wanted more oompf but 17oz.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2019 08:40 PM (Tnijr)

167 ZOD LUGER.

Posted by: Zod at October 06, 2019 08:40 PM (hgpSN)

168 On my wish list.

.357 revolver and lever gun combo

Ruger 1911DT with Punisher grips. Don't @me

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2019 08:41 PM (ZfRYq)

169 Thanks, weasel!

Range report: for various reasons (life) it had been six months since my range buddy and I had gotten together. He text3d me Tuesday night about Wednesday, and I agreed, but told him I'd need the 'side of the barn' target. He said same-same.

So we get to the range, and both of us ended up having one of our best days *ever*!

We turned to each other and said "we have to do this less often."

Posted by: ibguy at October 06, 2019 08:42 PM (EHVbt)

170 Howdy Nurse - Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:43 PM (MVjcR)

171 I had an AR-7 (little backpacking .22) in high school. I lost it when a friend's car was robbed in Las Vegas.

I had a Model 94 (30/30) after high school that fell off a luggage rack and disappeared on a two lane road within 5 miles of home.
Later, I bought a Plainfield M1 Carbine and my ex sold it, my Camaro, and most of my record collection while I was out of town.
After three strikes, I decided to stop arming criminals.
Insert very sad look here...

Posted by: setnaffa at October 06, 2019 08:43 PM (xiDI7)

172 149 144 Looking for recommendations for an AR 15 manufacturer (5.56). Local gun shop has Sons of Liberty brand but I want to explore more options.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 06, 2019 08:28 PM (duxRF)

Bravo Company is satisfactory.

Posted by: Zod at October 06, 2019 08:43 PM (hgpSN)

173 169 Thanks, weasel!

Range report: for various reasons (life) it had been six months since my range buddy and I had gotten together. He text3d me Tuesday night about Wednesday, and I agreed, but told him I'd need the 'side of the barn' target. He said same-same.

So we get to the range, and both of us ended up having one of our best days *ever*!

We turned to each other and said "we have to do this less often."


Posted by: ibguy at October 06, 2019 08:42 PM (EHVbt)
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Interesting! Think you were concentrating more?

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:44 PM (VtyYN)

174 144...

High end: Daniel Defense

Mid Range: Ruger, S&W, Springfield Armory

Budget: Bushmaster, DPMS

Posted by: PacosMojo at October 06, 2019 08:45 PM (pV4s0)

175 Only gun I ever sold was what I called a pimp .25 cal boot gun. It was something my dad had though he wasn't a pimp. I don't think.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 06, 2019 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

176 Posted by: setnaffa at October 06, 2019 08:43 PM (xiDI7)
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Holy crap! That's rough!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:45 PM (VtyYN)

177 Gunz sold: only one, and fairly recently.


Rationale: I have X Mosin-Nagants [plenty], this one was kind of a "mistake" purchase [not *my* mistake, exactly]. Right as CA was about to f**k up the C and R license [make it far less useful], ending direct sale/delivery of C and R long guns, I called a big surplus store and asked if I could get a particular date range [so-called ex-dragoon rifles, which I prefer only because the elaborate arsenal stamping on the receivers [in russki], which the "newer" ones don't have.


Nice young guy on the phone was very helpful, and I thought I had a 1927 Tula on the way. Ooops. 1929. Does not have the stamping I wanted. Good shooter, kept it for 4-5 years, but when I got the lever rifle I needed another safe slot, and decided to thin the herd.


Buyer was a nice younger guy in law enforcement who was rebuilding his collection after a distress sale of his milsurp stuff. I included a spam can of combloc surplus ammo because my stack of those will definitely outlast my likely shooting career with that caliber.


Have never considered selling another gun, yet.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 08:46 PM (QDnY+)

178 Oh and I used part of the money to buy my first Glock twenty three years ago. It's still my carry piece.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 06, 2019 08:46 PM (2DOZq)

179 Ruger 1911DT with Punisher grips. Don't @me
Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2019 08:41 PM (ZfRYq)


Same but this.

https://stoatnet.org/hvg1911.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 08:47 PM (t+qrx)

180 Never sold a gun except to get funds to replace it. I gave a gun to a brother who later sold it, and I regret that. I wish he'd offered it back to me. When I gave it to him I should have arranged for a give-back/buy-back if he ever tired of it.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at October 06, 2019 08:47 PM (ChOpP)

181 Have the lever rifle - Uberti repro of a Yellow Boy/Model 1866, in 45 Colt. The revolver will either be an Eye-talian repro, or a Ruger Blackhawk in that caliber.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

got a Uberti El Patron in .45. REALLY happy with it.

Its fits my hand so well, and is so instinctive to 'point shoot' that its now my go to if a bad situation happens.

Posted by: Just the punchline. at October 06, 2019 08:47 PM (NgKpN)

182 About 80% of the replacement barrels for the 870, as sold on Gunbroker or eBay, are 870s barrels made by Mossberg, *or* a cheaper, Chinese knock-off.

Me, I'm looking for a nice blue (not "matte-blue") original 18" Imp Cyl 870 barrel for a Riot Gun build I'm working on. Just the brass bead for a sight, and nothing else.

As for the replacement for the Charter Arms, both S&W and Taurus have ultra-light weight snubbies in the 12 oz. range.

Sadly, Taurus dropped the Model 85 in the Total Titanium version from the lineup. They have the "Lightweight", which is an alloy frame with a Titanium cylinder, but that's just not quite the same. It lacks a ported barrel, which the Total Titanium has, and which helps!

I'll bring my Total Titanium to the Tex Mo Meet. Y'allz welcome to choot it!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 08:47 PM (QzJWU)

183 So what is the difference (practically, assume one is I-talian) between Uberti and Henry?

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at October 06, 2019 08:48 PM (gSgAd)

184 167
ZOD LUGER.

Posted by: Zod at October 06, 2019 08:40 PM (hgpSN)

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There's something I figure I have to get into eventually.

I've got a C96 and a Webley VI. A Luger would fit in nicely.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 06, 2019 08:48 PM (cfSRQ)

185 setnaffa @ 171- You can get that little .22 from Henry I believe.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 08:48 PM (UUkQp)

186 Remington Wingmaster. Express. Loose, like his conscience.

Zod's carry piece.

Posted by: Zod at October 06, 2019 08:49 PM (hgpSN)

187 I'm gonna spam Weasel's gun thread

There will be 3 different gun ranges at the TX MoMe

Rifles, at least 3 pistol targets and a skeet range.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2019 08:49 PM (bVeh+)

188

Rip Taylor, the madcap mustached comedian with a fondness for confetti-throwing who became a television game show mainstay in the 1970s, has died. He was 84.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2019 08:49 PM (aKsyK)

189 Sounds like a great place for a swim Mike!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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C'mon in, the water's great!.

Posted by: Grendel at October 06, 2019 08:50 PM (2kj6M)

190 Looking for recommendations for an AR 15 manufacturer (5.56). Local gun shop has Sons of Liberty brand but I want to explore more options.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 06, 2019 08:28 PM (duxRF)


Sig is nice. Reasonable price, too. Probably mid-tier, as they go. It's not a DD or Larue, but it's definitely a Sig.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 06, 2019 08:50 PM (t+qrx)

191 The one Rifle I regret selling when I was young was my Springfield Armory NM M1-A with Leatherwood Brothers ART scope, M-15 bipod and a ton of stuff to go with it.
I needed money to finish my pilot ratings so it turned out a good reinvestment of the money but I always said I'd replace it someday and never did.

Posted by: DBCooper at October 06, 2019 08:51 PM (bttOm)

192 187 I'm gonna spam Weasel's gun thread

There will be 3 different gun ranges at the TX MoMe

Rifles, at least 3 pistol targets and a skeet range.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2019 08:49 PM (bVeh+)
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Shucks, that's not spam!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

193 >>There will be 3 different gun ranges at the TX MoMe Rifles, at least 3 pistol targets and a skeet range. Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2019 08:49 PM (bVeh+)

Zod MoMe is a different gun range.

Posted by: Zod at October 06, 2019 08:52 PM (hgpSN)

194 Hi weasel! Thank you.

*smooch!*

No range time this week. Mark and I will go on Saturday. He wants to shoot the Henry lever action .22. I need to break out my S&W .357. I haven't shot her in a while now.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 06, 2019 08:52 PM (PkVlr)

195 Nurse.
I'm thinking the 19th. If not the range ANB brews then certainly brews to pay up my debt.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2019 08:53 PM (axyOa)

196 191 The one Rifle I regret selling when I was young was my Springfield Armory NM M1-A with Leatherwood Brothers ART scope, M-15 bipod and a ton of stuff to go with it.
I needed money to finish my pilot ratings so it turned out a good reinvestment of the money but I always said I'd replace it someday and never did.
Posted by: DBCooper at October 06, 2019 08:51 PM (bttOm)
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Beautiful rifle, but I'd say that was a fair trade!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

197 OH. forgot to mention that the chance to fire a machine gun is still on.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2019 08:53 PM (bVeh+)

198 'Kind of related to selling gunz, I've mentioned this before.


For the frugal who don't mind doing their homework - buy used.


Many variables. Location matters - some places have a lot of folks selling all kinds of guns, so, easy. Kind of gun matters. If it's a common gun - a Glock pistol, a Ruger revolver, a Mossberg shotgun, or any other very common gun - you can usually save $$ buying used, and not have to look that hard.


As long as you do your homework [you should anyway, before any gun buy], just a matter of lying-in-wait for a decent/good deal for a gun that's been well treated.


All my purchases except 2 have been used, via private sale, locally [not counting buys of very used Mosins from Classic or M1s from CMP].


Of course there's GunBroker, and a few other national online sites, too. I use those for price info - easy to get the "going rate" for common guns.


Just an idea for newbies or lurkers who are looking for a common gun and want to save money. Well-made guns properly treated, generally, are good buys.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 08:54 PM (QDnY+)

199 194 Hi weasel! Thank you.

*smooch!*

No range time this week. Mark and I will go on Saturday. He wants to shoot the Henry lever action .22. I need to break out my S&W .357. I haven't shot her in a while now.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 06, 2019 08:52 PM (PkVlr)
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Going to miss you in Texas, but understand. Maybe next year!
*peck!*
*looks nervously for insom*

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:55 PM (MVjcR)

200 163 159, tbodie - a Remington Model 29. maybe?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 06, 2019 08:38 PM (k3g2v)

Nope. But I am going off to check out your suggestion. I really want to find another one.

Posted by: tbodie at October 06, 2019 08:55 PM (nRs0E)

201 ..." I apologize for using a big word."
-Posted by: G marks the spot at October 06, 2019 08:26 PM (Js8Dx)

There was nothing exponentially egregious about the utilization of such verbiage within the context of the information imbued upon the masses.

Should you care to deluge yourself in overtly inconsequential pleonasm, might I direct you toward the undertaking of a career as legal counsel.

Applications are hereby requisitioned for such a position within Slapweasel Industries.

...except for that "Insomniac" -Guy. We can't afford his shit. We're simply looking for a revolver, while he represents a cannon within the industry.

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 08:55 PM (Ckg4U)

202
Just an idea for newbies or lurkers who are looking for a common gun and want to save money. Well-made guns properly treated, generally, are good buys.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 08:54 PM (QDnY+)
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The majority of my guns were purchased used. Never had a stinker.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 08:57 PM (MVjcR)

203 I have never sold any firearm outside of my immediate family.

When at the range this week, I tried a few new, to me, pistols. My range membership entitles me to try any of the rental weapons in the cases for free. So, this week I tried a CZ P10 and a HK Vp9 SK. Very nice hand feel with both of them and with the P10 some magical force was with me as my groups were very tight and routinely in the 9-10 ring.

I usually don't shoot that well. I didn't shoot quite as well with the HK but it seems to nestle in my grip better.

I want to try a CZ 75 this week and I'll see what else tickles my fancy.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 06, 2019 08:59 PM (Y4EXg)

204 145 ... "JTB, that is one of several holes in my 3-piece collection - nothing in .357. I feel somewhat - unmanly.
I'd love to have a lever gun and SW in .357."

Lever guns in pistol calibers are rather expensive. The least costly is probably the Rossi, followed by the Henry. Used 357 revolvers are easy to find but choosing one is personal. SA cowboy style for under 500 bucks, a used GP100, etc. The Ruger Blackhawk is available in 357 with an extra cylinder for shooting 9mm.

I shoot a lot more 38 specials than magnums but there are times when a little extra power is useful or just fun.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 09:00 PM (bmdz3)

205 one of the sheep in my general AO bleated this on NextDoor:

At approximately 10:05 p.m. Saturday night, two men approached my front door. One knocked on the front door, and then went back to the car while the other one went around back of my house, entering through a side gate. The man that entered my home broke into my laundry room door, which has a doggy door. He both entered and exited that way. I was awakened by the noise he made breaking the doggy door to get through it. I confronted him, and then ran out to the street because I had no way to defend myself. He left shortly thereafter and the two of them drove away. I have 19 videos of them which have been handed over to LAPD. I have attached 2 videos and 2 photos. I have reported this information to the police.

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what an idiot. no comment here, or on line, what would have happened to the perp at our house, except that i'd be turning over more than photos to the cops.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:02 PM (EOMoX)

206 173 weasel

Actually, I think it was because we had such low expectations, so no stress.

Posted by: ibguy at October 06, 2019 09:02 PM (EHVbt)

207 I have to say I'm a little surprised. For some reason I'd expected to be the oddball in terms of hanging on to everything in the collection.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:02 PM (MVjcR)

208 "Let me start off by saying I have never sold a gun."
I wish I could say that.

I deeply regret selling the first gun I ever bought, a Russian AK-47 back around 1990 to fund a move to Atlanta.

I HAVE NEVER SOLD ANY OTHER GUN I HAVE ACQUIRED SINCE.
I still kick myself for selling the AK, but not to much, bigly on the price but I could have a NIB, or mildly used, possibly refurbished for around $400 now, if I wanted one.

I LIKE all of my tools, I got them for specific reasons, I see no need to sell them because I see a time when they will be needed and not having them would make me unhappy.

Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel, I look forward to this one every week.

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at October 06, 2019 09:03 PM (qZdIZ)

209 206 173 weasel

Actually, I think it was because we had such low expectations, so no stress.
Posted by: ibguy at October 06, 2019 09:02 PM (EHVbt)
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Makes sense.
New Theory: Stop practicing!!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:03 PM (MVjcR)

210 Applications are hereby requisitioned for such a position within Slapweasel Industries.

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 08:55 PM (Ckg4U)

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i won't w*rk any place where the owner can't even get a simple acronym right...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:03 PM (EOMoX)

211 Checked Remington and Brownell for the 870 barrel. Prices are comparable. I should add the original barrel was 28 inch vent ribbed mod chock. Not sure I will go that direction as I rarely bird hunt anymore. Last time I went I hunted with my bow

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:04 PM (SMeCf)

212 Other than trading a couple of shotguns for other shotguns eons ago there is a check valve on firearms here. I've been attempting to balance the "collection" so each of the two grandsons get roughly equivalent amounts. Oldest one is highly interested in guns, shooting, and hunting. The other is too young to know yet but his father is into guns and hunting.

Posted by: Agitator at October 06, 2019 09:04 PM (m9DnX)

213 Dunno if Mark is here, he's an XD fan, but actually just before checking in here I was scrubbing parts of my XD9 [5-inch] slide/striker assembly, first time since bought the gun 8 years ago. Never did a complete disassembly [manufacturer discourages it], but, as Louie said in "Casablanca", it seems fate has taken a hand - the striker retainer pin failed on my last range visit, so disassembly it was.


Range guy did it, but now I know my hunch that it isn't a big deal is confirmed. Maybe every 3-4K rounds I'll do it from now on.


Replacement pin from the maker on the way, as are roll pin punches and roll pin holders from Brownells. I've put off getting them, even though I think I'll want/need them over time, but now that's taken care of.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:04 PM (QDnY+)

214 Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at October 06, 2019 09:03 PM (qZdIZ)
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Why thank you, Gmac. Nice to have you here!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:05 PM (VtyYN)

215 ...and speaking of Guns, I've just been "hired-on" as a Moderator for Nick DiPaolo's Live Streams, which are Free every Monday morning at Eleven A.M., Eastern.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxlqu6rn

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 09:05 PM (Ckg4U)

216 Uhhmmm There is a CMP Garand Special in my safe that I might could rehome to the right moron. And by right moron, i mean one who would accept an old lady with a great face lift and boob job (the CMP specials were referb-ed to the max, new Criterion barrel, CMP cartouche furniture, reworked receiver) Only 'cause I want to buy something else. And that I might have more than one. You can't have the one born in 1942, tho.

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at October 06, 2019 09:05 PM (gMngZ)

217 11 Checked Remington and Brownell for the 870 barrel. Prices are comparable. I should add the original barrel was 28 inch vent ribbed mod chock. Not sure I will go that direction as I rarely bird hunt anymore. Last time I went I hunted with my bow
Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:04 PM (SMeCf)
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Bummer. Sorry Sock.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:06 PM (MVjcR)

218 Weasel @ 202- Used gubs is good gubs. It is known.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:07 PM (UUkQp)

219 "i won't w*rk any place where the owner can't even get a simple acronym right..."
-Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:03 PM (EOMoX)

...and I wouldn't hire anyone with the nickname "heartless" and can't capitalize the simple word "I".

*storms-off to create moar weaponry*

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 09:07 PM (Ckg4U)

220 McGyver - And how is one supposed to get in touch for info?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:08 PM (2kj6M)

221 209 weasel

Bwahaha!!

BTW: The 6th(!) Annual Southwest Ohio MoMe is this coming Saturday, and will *also* include range time beforehand.

Email addy in sidebar....

Posted by: ibguy at October 06, 2019 09:08 PM (EHVbt)

222 We don't have chirrun, so once everything is liquidated it's all going to the animal shelter.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:09 PM (MVjcR)

223 Thanks, BTW, to whomever unthread suggested the firearms trust. Wi, definitely be asking the lawyer about that.

Posted by: ibguy at October 06, 2019 09:10 PM (EHVbt)

224 Weasel, no joke really, I buy my guns very very slowly and deliberately, and because I want that particular type, so not selling any is no surprise. Just my style. I won't buy something I haven't tried/know that I want and can use.


Also, relatives and gun buddies unanimously advise never selling unless you don't like/cannot use a particular gun [financial and other considerations excluded, just talking gun/shooting merits].



Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:10 PM (QDnY+)

225 ...McGyver, over



Posted by: McGyver at October 06, 2019 09:05 PM (gMngZ)



McGyver, my email is in my nic.

Pretty damn near 100% certainty that I'll buy that Garand from you. We've just gotta exchange a mail or two.

Thanks!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 09:11 PM (QzJWU)

226 We don't have chirrun, so once everything is liquidated it's all going to the animal shelter.
Posted by: Weasel
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Our little dog is fine with liquids. In fact, she's displayed a distinct predilection for beer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:12 PM (2kj6M)

227 @225 easier than buying a book.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2019 09:12 PM (ZfRYq)

228 Bummer. Sorry Sock.
Posted by: Weasel

Don't be. Remington has a 14 inch bead sited barrel for a reasonable price. It will make functional and legal for it's current purpose. I still have what is left of the original barrel but all I'll say is it's a bit on the Tom Cruise side of things.

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:12 PM (SMeCf)

229 Only sold 3 pieces (distress sales):

Browning BDA in 9mm (rebadged Sig P220). Was my personal backup piece when I was in the Rangers.

Colt Sauer in 300 Win Mag

Colt Series 70 1911

All went to a fellow squad leader.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 06, 2019 09:13 PM (di1hb)

230 224 Weasel, no joke really, I buy my guns very very slowly and deliberately, and because I want that particular type, so not selling any is no surprise. Just my style. I won't buy something I haven't tried/know that I want and can use.

Also, relatives and gun buddies unanimously advise never selling unless you don't like/cannot use a particular gun [financial and other considerations excluded, just talking gun/shooting merits].

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:10 PM (QDnY+)
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When I retire in a few years and relocate down by the farm I'll be doing a lot more shooting, so the guns sitting in the safes now will see some use again.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:13 PM (MVjcR)

231 You might want to lose the convert to full auto line.

After May of 1986, converting a rifle to full auto is a felony, unless you are a manufacturer making weapons for sale to the military, law enforcement, or certain security firms.

Posted by: Kristophr at October 06, 2019 09:13 PM (ZoT8Y)

232 Darn you, McGyver, a special is on my list to get [have two service grades]. Not really in buying mode right now, for various reasons, but .....


Maybe you can email Weasel the details and he can forward to those interested?


The rifle specs you can just here [and folks can go to the CMP website for more details on the specials].

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:14 PM (QDnY+)

233 Lol Slapweasel!

Posted by: G marks the spot at October 06, 2019 09:14 PM (Js8Dx)

234 Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:12 PM (SMeCf)
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Ha!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:14 PM (MVjcR)

235 231 You might want to lose the convert to full auto line.

After May of 1986, converting a rifle to full auto is a felony, unless you are a manufacturer making weapons for sale to the military, law enforcement, or certain security firms.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 06, 2019 09:13 PM (ZoT8Y)
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I meant legally, of course.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:16 PM (MVjcR)

236 Why is my email NOT in my nic? It usetabe. Oh. well, Jim Sunk New Dawn and Mike Hammer and well, anyone, really. McGyver atsign bresnan dot net.

I'll try and search for the pics . I moved everything over to a "new"ish Win10 computer and haven't sorted everything out yet. I'll send pics to those interested.

More later, Giggles is asking me to refresh her drink

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at October 06, 2019 09:16 PM (gMngZ)

237 Ah! Jim is the early bird.


Have not been checking regularly, but notice the specials, which not long ago were always in stock at CMP, are not always available now. Though I haven't checked the forums to see if CMP has given any guidance on future supply.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:16 PM (QDnY+)

238 While I accumulate guns I don't collect them. I want guns for use not looks or as an investment. When I ordered from the CMP I wanted a Garand that shot well, cosmetics were secondary. Turned out I got lucky with a new barrel and stock for a service level piece.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 09:17 PM (bmdz3)

239 Since most members are Virginians it is a perfectly legit set up. Of course, none of the pieces are class 3 or require any other paperwork. Buyers do have to show proof of residency.
Posted by: JTB

That's awesome, how do I join.

Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2019 09:17 PM (Uk+dD)

240 Shotgun Shell Questions.

Went to the shotgun range today and shot a newly acquired shotgun (that was purchased used at a LGS) and had some equipment problems. Of course, it is the first time I shot this shotgun so some of the problem were simply lack of familiarity.

Possible Ammo Problem or Barrel/Firing Pin Problem?

I was using RIO 20 gauge shells of #9 shot in a Stoeger Condor I O/U shotgun. I fired 75 rounds today. .

There were about 5 shells that had really light strikes on them and didn't fire on the first shot. Eventually all but 2 of these fired on a second shot. Never had a dud round before.

There were another 5 shells that fired but the primers were very darkened and seem to have left a rough spot and maybe a perforation on the primer after they were fired.

All of the light strikes and the darkened primers were from the lower barrel. That seems odd.

This is the first time I have used Rio ammo but it is the standard ammo at the range so I assume it is reasonably reliable.

I took some pictures to show the issue.

The 1st picture is a "normal" primer after firing from the upper barrel. Looks pretty normal. Some primers from the lower barrel also looked like this after firing.

The 2nd picture is one of the deep/dark strikes after I cleaned it up. If you magnify the shot you can see a rough spot around the firing pin strike dimple. It's quite obvious compared to the normal strike.

The 3rd picture is on of the deep/dark strikes that was not cleaned, and the 4th picture is a closeup of the same deep/dark strike which has not been cleaned.

Never seen this before. Granted, it's the first time I've fired this shotgun and the first time I've used this ammo.

Anyone ever seen primers behave like this? What does it mean if one chamber both has numerous light strikes and numerous heavy strikes on the same day? I'l talking 10 or so rounds out of the 37 or 38 rounds fired from the lower barrel today.

Kind of curious and outside my normal, though limited, experience.

BTW, I was terrible today. But I'm thinking that was due to inexperience with the new shotgun. I hope.

Update: After the initial post it dawned on me that all the light strikes were in the first 50 shots fired (boxes 1 & 2) and all the deep/heavy/dark strikes were on shots 51 through 75 (box 3).

I remember having some problems posting ___ur links here so you can see the pictures on gab at https://gab.com/WarEagle82/posts/102917915857884670

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 06, 2019 09:18 PM (+Kpte)

241
Maybe you can email Weasel the details and he can forward to those interested?
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Sure - just make sure in the email that you're clear who I'm supposed to be forwarding to!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:18 PM (MVjcR)

242

lulz: AOC proposes new bill to extend full welfare for all illegals, everywhere.

Okay, so what, right?

So that means every single D 2020 candidate must endorse this stupidity and fast!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 06, 2019 09:19 PM (L65NW)

243 Can someone remind me of the suggested workaround for posting pictures via "i m gur" links? Just the three letters "i m g" seem to strike fear and confusion into the site.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 06, 2019 09:19 PM (+Kpte)

244 After May of 1986, converting a rifle to full auto is a felony, unless you are a manufacturer making weapons for sale to the military, law enforcement, or certain security firms.
Posted by: Kristophr
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Weasel's observation was that that 'IF' it can be converted, then it would be more valuable. For someone registered to do so, it is completely legal.

The point being that 'IF' it can be converted, then it is more valuable. A simple statement of fact, not an inducement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:19 PM (nR2Re)

245 When my brother died he wanted me to have the guns he had left

20ga shotgun
Black Powder rifle he had made
a derringer.

I gave the shotgun and black powder rifle to a dear friends grandson.

Somebody stole the derringer in transport.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2019 09:21 PM (bVeh+)

246
Just found 1/2 a bitter melon in the kitchen drain rack. Why yes, I am married to an Asian lady, why do you ask?

Before the rafting accident - pro tip, U-Hauls do do well on rafts - I had a pile of Savage Model 24 Combos in various caliber combinations. Old and beat up but functional. Was hoping someday to rehab them for fun and stash away behind every blade of grass guns.

Have sold a few others over the years, some glad to be rid of (low eb Mini-14's, you POC) others for food and fuel.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 06, 2019 09:21 PM (UFLLM)

247 ...and I wouldn't hire anyone with the nickname "heartless" and can't capitalize the simple word "I".



*storms-off to create moar weaponry*

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 09:07 PM (Ckg4U)

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did you ask Ms. Tease how i got that nick? (Hint: i used to w*rk repo)

besides, you have to hire someone old enough to remember when complaining about capitalization, etc, was known as a "speeling lame", just to keep you youngsters in line.

Usenet FTWT!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:22 PM (EOMoX)

248 McGyver. Mail sent, amigo!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 09:22 PM (QzJWU)

249 Sadly, Taurus dropped the Model 85 in the Total Titanium version from the lineup. They have the "Lightweight", which is an alloy frame with a Titanium cylinder, but that's just not quite the same. It lacks a ported barrel, which the Total Titanium has, and which helps!

I'll bring my Total Titanium to the Tex Mo Meet. Y'allz welcome to choot it!


Have the .45LC version. The firearm is so light-weight that the recoil will unseat the projectiles from the case and cause a cylinder lock-up. Thus all .45LC rounds are hand made with a slight crimp and adjustments to keep the pressure down.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 06, 2019 09:23 PM (lD3vL)

250 #nevertrustalibertarian
Not ever
Especially not around firearms.

Posted by: a life spent waiting on the potatoes at October 06, 2019 09:23 PM (Bf3hj)

251 Funny how some laws adopted in 1986 are enforced, while others ..... not so much. Especially "funny" that the one that's enforced has zero impact on public safety, while the ignored one has massive, ongoing, negative social and public safety impact.


Oh well. "Rule of law" is a nice concept we teach to emerging democracies abroad in our foreign aid programs. Maybe, some day [like wild animal species extinct in the wild but preserved in zoos, then re-introduced to the wild, like the weit rhino] these foreign countries can re-introduce it here.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:24 PM (QDnY+)

252 I had a pile of Savage Model 24 Combos in various caliber combinations.
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I always liked those, but have never purchased. What happens is, I get bogged down in the shot/rifle combination selection, and never buy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:25 PM (nR2Re)

253 239 ... "That's awesome, how do I join."

Jean, It's the Fairfax Rod and Gun Club. The waiting list to get in is about three years at the moment. The number of members is capped so someone has to die or leave the area for a slot to come open. Justice Scalia was a member. He enjoyed skeet and trap.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 09:26 PM (bmdz3)

254 Bought a new Marlin XT-22 to replace the one whose barrel I have shot out.

Posted by: It's the seriousness of the charge at October 06, 2019 09:26 PM (kMvhh)

255 After May of 1986, converting a rifle to full auto is a felony, unless you are a manufacturer making weapons for sale to the military, law enforcement, or certain security firms.

But if The Enemy Within manages to pass laws making just the ownership of an unmodified weapon a felony, then the options soon become select-fire or nothing.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 06, 2019 09:26 PM (lD3vL)

256
Mike, just get one of all possible combinations! Happiness!

PS: The .308 is just as much fun as would expect in a single shot straight line 5 lb gun...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (UFLLM)

257 Weasel's observation was that that 'IF' it can be
converted, then it would be more valuable. For someone registered to do
so, it is completely legal.



The point being that 'IF' it can be converted, then it is more valuable. A simple statement of fact, not an inducement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:19 PM (nR2Re)

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AIUI, any sillivillian version of a mil-spec rifle, such as the HK in question, have the internal dimensions of appropriate main parts modified, so that major machining is necessary if you want to convert it.

think of the difference between your standard AR lower and that of an M-4/16, for instance.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (EOMoX)

258 244 After May of 1986, converting a rifle to full auto is a felony, unless you are a manufacturer making weapons for sale to the military, law enforcement, or certain security firms.
Posted by: Kristophr
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Weasel's observation was that that 'IF' it can be converted, then it would be more valuable. For someone registered to do so, it is completely legal.

The point being that 'IF' it can be converted, then it is more valuable. A simple statement of fact, not an inducement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:19 PM (nR2Re)
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Thanks, Mike. My buddy that has the MP5s mentioned the full-auto sears having serial numbers so that's the part that's Class 3. I don't know if the SL8 receiver would accept a full auto sear, or not, or even the legality of doing so, assuming the sear was legal in the first place.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (MVjcR)

259 Think about every firearm you currently own. Now think about them being confiscated. If we lose the political fight going on right now that could be a possibility. Remember President Trump has no friends but us, and his enemies are out enemies.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (UUkQp)

260 Bought a new Marlin XT-22 to replace the one whose barrel I have shot out.


Posted by: It's the seriousness of the charge at October 06, 2019 09:26 PM (kMvhh)

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and a replacement barrel, right?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (EOMoX)

261 Somebody stole the derringer in transport.
Posted by: Ben Had
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I had that happen with a Llama .380. Reported to the cops, they shrugged. They said there was no way of determining that it was stolen in their jurisdiction.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:29 PM (nR2Re)

262
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AIUI, any sillivillian version of a mil-spec rifle, such as the HK in question, have the internal dimensions of appropriate main parts modified, so that major machining is necessary if you want to convert it.

think of the difference between your standard AR lower and that of an M-4/16, for instance.
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (EOMoX)
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Thanks Red. That's what I was getting at just above.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:30 PM (MVjcR)

263 -Posted by: redc1c4 at October 06, 2019 09:22 PM (EOMoX)

*HAH!* I know the Whole Story, amigo!

...and I know you know I love you, Brother.

Real Men jab one-another in the ribs and that's what makes us Men.

...and with that, I need to take my repose.

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 09:31 PM (Ckg4U)

264 Pouring outside. Good. We needed the rain pretty bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 06, 2019 09:31 PM (ycWCI)

265 and that's what makes us Men

Well that and ginourmous raging purple headed cobras...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 06, 2019 09:32 PM (UFLLM)

266 Looking at an AR in 6.5 Grendel. What say ye?

I've got a pair of them and prefer it to 5.56. Ammo is pricey unless you either reload or shoot the Wolf steel case ammo. I have shot a lot of it and never a single issue. SGA usually has it for around .25 a round. Hornady brass ammo is around a dollar a round. I built one for my oldest grandson for Christmas last year.

Posted by: Agitator at October 06, 2019 09:32 PM (m9DnX)

267 259 Think about every firearm you currently own. Now think about them being confiscated. If we lose the political fight going on right now that could be a possibility. Remember President Trump has no friends but us, and his enemies are out enemies.
Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (UUkQp)
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Yep, and be thinking about ammo, first.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:33 PM (MVjcR)

268 The one gun that I wish that I had purchased, and let get away because at $150 it was too expensive (insert kick in the ass here) was a W. W. Greener 12 ga Martini action single shot shotgun.

I have never seen another like it.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 06, 2019 09:35 PM (FTlwv)

269 Howdy Jinx! Bummer, man.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:36 PM (MVjcR)

270
Was it Greener's and maybe later Enfields the Brits converted to shotguns for their indig security forces? At least some used some weird nonstandard firing pin/primer so the ammo couldn't be reproduced?

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 06, 2019 09:37 PM (UFLLM)

271 Me, I'm looking for a nice blue (not "matte-blue") original 18" Imp Cyl 870 barrel for a Riot Gun build I'm working on. Just the brass bead for a sight, and nothing else.
Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 08:47 PM


I picked up a Wingmaster police trade in as the basis of a project. Not sure on the choke (could be Cyl.), and the blue has wear marks. It has the gold bead sight. It's the older thin wall. I want to get this project Vang Comp'ed, and they only do the newer thicker barrels, so if it's something you might be interested in a look at, it can find its way North in a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2019 09:38 PM (DMUuz)

272 Agitator @ 266- I try not to shoot steel case in other than piston guns. The 6.5 Grendel I'm looking at is Precision Aero 18" bbl and will probably handle a test of couple hundred rounds. I suppose.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:39 PM (UUkQp)

273 259 Think about every firearm you currently own. Now think about them being confiscated. If we lose the political fight going on right now that could be a possibility. Remember President Trump has no friends but us, and his enemies are out enemies.
Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:27 PM (UUkQp)


I do this pretty much every day I watch the news, national or local.

Interacting with many people in Seattle, it is pretty obvious there are many Americans that have lost their way. I always welcome honest and spirited debate, but the Leftie side are lemmings, following what Rachel, Jake, and Tater tell them what to think. Honest discussions are dead as last week's roadkill.

Without a standard Rule of Law, ignored at least the last 3 years by the Left/Press, I'm pessimistic about the future. There are many contributing factors, but in the end, the foundation crumbles when the Press is mostly lying about factual information.

And the press also chooses to censor many important and relevant data points that allow independent citizens make their own decisions. Instead, they choose their own "facts", and shove them down our throats.

It wasn't always this way. but this is where we are today.


What was the question again?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 06, 2019 09:39 PM (sy5kK)

274 Can any of you tell me if .357 cartridges by Magtech are any good?

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 06, 2019 09:40 PM (u5LFV)

275 But if The Enemy Within manages to pass laws making just the ownership of an unmodified weapon a felony, then the options soon become select-fire or nothing.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 06, 2019 09:26 PM (lD3vL)


Ironic how it is harder to make a semi-automatic than an automatic.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 06, 2019 09:40 PM (1g7ch)

276 264 Pouring outside. Good. We needed the rain pretty bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 06, 2019 09:31 PM (ycWCI)
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I think we've had a total of 9 drops of rain here in the last two months.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:40 PM (MVjcR)

277 Handgun speed vs accuracy - what's the right balance? H/T Instapundit.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxud58b2

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 06, 2019 09:41 PM (NMAzL)

278 There are no guns I actually need for any reason. What I have now meets all my shooting activities from fun to SD. That doesn't effect what I want to have, hence the aforementioned Ruger Security Six. So these days I concentrate on ammo and components, including powder, flints, and caps for the BP guns. The Anti-2A pukes may well attack the ammo supply to starve out the gun owners.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 09:44 PM (bmdz3)

279 I think we've had a total of 9 drops of rain here in the last two months.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:40 PM (MVjcR)

We got some misting yesterday, not enough to register. No rain to speak of in almost 6 weeks. Incredibly dry summer, and no rain expected this week either. At least we shouldn't expect temps much over 80 this week, after breaking some records last week (almost 100).

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 06, 2019 09:44 PM (NMAzL)

280 ...so if it's something you might be interested in a look at, it can find its way North in a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2019 09:38 PM (DMUuz)




Yessir, please bring that item with you to the MoMeet! It'll be a pleasure to haggle over a few pennies either way, over a bourbon after dinner.

Thanks!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 09:45 PM (QzJWU)

281 any sillivillian version of a mil-spec rifle, such as the HK in question, have the internal dimensions of appropriate main parts modified, so that major machining is necessary if you want to convert it.


The exception being AKs. Honestly, sometimes I am surprised that we are allowed to own them.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 06, 2019 09:45 PM (yQpMk)

282 277 Handgun speed vs accuracy - what's the right balance? H/T Instapundit.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxud58b2
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 06, 2019 09:41 PM (NMAzL)
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Hi Miley! Thanks for the link. We were discussing that very idea last week or the week before.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:45 PM (MVjcR)

283 Andy Reid's team is playing like it's the playoffs.

Posted by: a life spent waiting on the potatoes at October 06, 2019 09:45 PM (Bf3hj)

284 The latest Godzilla movie is already 7.99 on amazon?

That bad?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 06, 2019 09:45 PM (ycWCI)

285 What was the question again?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
Buy more guns or buy more ammo? I vote ammo

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:47 PM (SMeCf)

286 The latest Godzilla movie is already 7.99 on amazon?

That bad?



Very very Japanese.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 06, 2019 09:47 PM (yQpMk)

287 Anti-2A pukes may well attack the ammo supply to starve out the gun owners.
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 09:44 PM (bmdz3)
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My thoughts too. In fact, it's on the drawing board for discussion next week if you all want to be thinking about it.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:47 PM (MVjcR)

288

noodie kazoo

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 06, 2019 09:48 PM (L65NW)

289 Why did the 50 - 100 Turkeys cross the road:
To Shit on my lawn
Oh to be able to open up on them with a 10 gauge.

Posted by: a life spent waiting on the potatoes at October 06, 2019 09:49 PM (Bf3hj)

290 Welp, it's about that time. Thank you for stopping by tonight and joining the fun. I see we had some new nics tonight which are always welcomed! I appreciate you all.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:50 PM (MVjcR)

291 287
Anti-2A pukes may well attack the ammo supply to starve out the gun owners.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 09:44 PM (bmdz3)

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My thoughts too. In fact, it's on the drawing board for discussion next week if you all want to be thinking about it.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:47 PM (MVjcR)


My questions would be about shelf life.

Posted by: davidt at October 06, 2019 09:50 PM (L2A48)

292 We got some misting yesterday, not enough to register. No rain to speak of in almost 6 weeks. Incredibly dry summer, and no rain expected this week either. At least we shouldn't expect temps much over 80 this week, after breaking some records last week (almost 100).
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess
Already had a couple inches of snow (it's gone) and temps in the low 20's st night. Feel a bit sorry for you Miley.

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:50 PM (SMeCf)

293 SG Ammo, JTB. Learn it, live it, love it.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:51 PM (UUkQp)

294
My questions would be about shelf life.
Posted by: davidt at October 06, 2019 09:50 PM (L2A4
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Stored properly it's not an issue. I have surplus ammo from the 1950's that is just fine!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

295 Anti-2A pukes may well attack the ammo supply to starve out the gun owners.

Posted by: JTB

Easier to go after ammo. Tax it, regulate it let the market drive the price up.

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:52 PM (SMeCf)

296 I ordered the Brownells BCG I wanted for Mrs928's surprise ultralightweight AR. And an adjustable gas block from Midway. They should come this week so I will have new pictures for the Gub thread next Sunday.

Now all I need is a sighting system. I'm thinking a relatively cheap 5MOA red dot will do. Mrs928 isn't going to be shooting past 100 yards.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 06, 2019 09:52 PM (yQpMk)

297 AFAIK, Magtech [Brazilian, Magtech the external marketing name for "Companhia Brasileira do Cartuchos" - CBC is the head-stamp] ammo is fine. Have used their .38 special and 9mm.


Not aware of any major brand of ammo that isn't fine for most general purpose uses. Have not generally bought ammo for years [reload], but that was my experience. And there's a rumor I have a stockpile, er, reserve, of factory ammo in all my calibers, and it includes most of the major brands, to include Magtech.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:52 PM (QDnY+)

298
Easier to go after ammo. Tax it, regulate it let the market drive the price up.
Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:52 PM (SMeCf)
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Make sure to stop by next week, sock!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 09:53 PM (MVjcR)

299 My questions would be about shelf life.

I have shot USGI 30-06 headstamped 55 with no failures at all.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 06, 2019 09:54 PM (qc+VF)

300
We got some misting yesterday, not enough to register. No rain to speak of in almost 6 weeks. Incredibly dry summer, and no rain expected this week either. At least we shouldn't expect temps much over 80 this week, after breaking some records last week (almost 100).
Posted by: Miley
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Same here, and it has undoubtedly caused the algae bloom mentioned above. Temperature has broken here in W. NC, and after record temps last week, we've dropped to seasonal temp in the last day. 58 deg. when I walked the dog this a.m., had to wear a jacket.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 09:56 PM (nR2Re)

301 The 1946 54R, Soviet surplus I shot worked just fine, though it was produced just months after the end of the Great Patriotic War. The stripper clips don't work that well, but I believe they need the field-mods the soldats used to employ and that I haven't pursued.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:56 PM (QDnY+)

302 Depends on the weather. It's get ready ready for winter season right now. I don't score many points if I'm inside playing on my challenged phone and Mrs. SM is outside working away. I will try.

Posted by: Sock Monkey.....not hanging with the other Monkeys at October 06, 2019 09:56 PM (SMeCf)

303 Weasel, a big thing in ammo to consider for your thread.

Storage.

There are all kinds of options, and lots that can be done to ensure safety and extend the life of the boolits.

Conversely, there's lot a shooter can do wrong to promote corrosion and other forms of deterioration.

And there's always that "in the safe or not" aspect of the art, too.

Lotsa thread fodder on those topics, and I've no doubt it's gonna be a doozy!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 09:57 PM (QzJWU)

304 One word: Primers.

*touches nose*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 06, 2019 09:57 PM (yQpMk)

305 rhomboid at October 06, 2019 09:52 PM (QDnY+)

Thank you. I appreciate your response.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 06, 2019 09:57 PM (u5LFV)

306 2 weeks, guys. No really, 2 weeks til TxMoMe!

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 09:58 PM (UUkQp)

307 The old corrosive ammo had a damn near infinite shelf life. A friend and I shot 100+ year old revolver ammo once. I don't remember if it was 45 or 44. 44 I think. Out of a couple of dozen only two didn't fire.

I can't testify to their performance though. They didn't squib, I remember that much.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 06, 2019 10:00 PM (yQpMk)

308 Weasel,

I don't think this topic has been covered: what to look for when buying a used firearm. Not sure how much interest, or need, there would be but it might be helpful.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:01 PM (bmdz3)

309 274 ... "Can any of you tell me if .357 cartridges by Magtech are any good?"

I've always found Magtech handgun ammo to be very good and reliable.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:05 PM (bmdz3)

310 308 Weasel,

I don't think this topic has been covered: what to look for when buying a used firearm. Not sure how much interest, or need, there would be but it might be helpful.
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:01 PM (bmdz3)
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Great idea JTB. I'll add it to the list!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 10:06 PM (VtyYN)

311 Up since 0400 and set to be up in the am same time. Taps here.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 10:06 PM (UUkQp)

312 Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 09:57 PM (QzJWU)
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Yep! I've already started making notes!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 10:06 PM (VtyYN)

313 309 274 ... "Can any of you tell me if .357 cartridges by Magtech are any good?"

I've always found Magtech handgun ammo to be very good and reliable.
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:05 PM (bmdz3)
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I've shot a lot of it and never had a problem.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 10:07 PM (MVjcR)

314 309 274 ... "Can any of you tell me if .357 cartridges by Magtech are any good?"

I've always found Magtech handgun ammo to be very good and reliable.
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:05 PM (bmdz3)
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I've shot a lot of it and never had a problem.

I'm headed to bed but will check back here in the AM. Goodnight everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2019 10:08 PM (VtyYN)

315 *ONT is NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 06, 2019 10:09 PM (Ckg4U)

316 Nite, Weasel !

As always, great work and it's highly appreciated.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2019 10:09 PM (QzJWU)

317 Good night Weasel. Thanks, as always, for the thread.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:10 PM (bmdz3)

318 Good job, Weasel.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2019 10:11 PM (UUkQp)

319 I don't think this topic has been covered: what to look for when buying a used firearm. Not sure how much interest, or need, there would be but it might be helpful.
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2019 10:01 PM (bmdz3)
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Great idea JTB. I'll add it to the list!
Posted by: Weasel
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Heh. We could have a sort of treasure hunt thread. Schedule a week in which folks shopped the local gun shops, classified ads, pawn shops, and reported interesting used pieces at bargain prices.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 06, 2019 10:12 PM (nR2Re)

320 /

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 06, 2019 10:30 PM (aS1PU)

321 Got a deer with the muzzle loader this weekend. 144 yards open sights. Then proceeded to miss it two follow up shots. Had to knife it like a barbarian.

Posted by: Igotnothing at October 06, 2019 10:32 PM (xf2hT)

322 Got a deer with the muzzle loader this weekend. 144 yards open sights. Then proceeded to miss it two follow up shots. Had to knife it like a barbarian.
Posted by: Igotnothing

Good shooting. Enjoy the meat!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 06, 2019 10:41 PM (FTlwv)

323 SockMonkey, I have an 870 barrel that's no longer of any use to me. It's (iirc) a 28" vent rib 12ga with RemChokes. The 870 was the Express 3" model with black plastic stocks, so (again, iirc) the barrel is not blued but closer to parkerized. It's currently in a box of related items in storage but I'll dig it out if you're interested. It's yours for an appropriate offer and shipping, or perhaps a suitable trade. Please reply to BlackLabsMatterStore at that gee male thing.

Posted by: Cowboyneal at October 07, 2019 01:03 AM (U2zo0)

324 Test

Posted by: Ibguy at October 07, 2019 01:51 AM (WY8fM)

325 Praying Morons:

At hospital. Mother in law in bad accident.

Posted by: Ibguy at October 07, 2019 01:52 AM (WY8fM)

326 Midnight calls never good news.

Posted by: Ibguy at October 07, 2019 01:54 AM (WY8fM)

327 Will pray for your MIL, Ibguy.

Posted by: Resident of Brattleboro, VT at October 07, 2019 07:18 AM (j0JAA)

328 Oops; VT resident sock off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 07, 2019 07:19 AM (j0JAA)

329 tablet sign in

Posted by: andycanuck at October 07, 2019 07:20 AM (Dh1wo)

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