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The complainant’s failure to disclose his interactions with Schiff or his staff could put him in legal hot water, as the whistleblower form he submitted requires individuals to disclose "other actions you are taking on your disclosure" under penalty of perjury. An entire page of the whistleblower form is dedicated to collecting information about previous disclosures so the ICIG can take appropriate action in response to the complaint. "I have previously disclosed (or am disclosing) the violations alleged here to (complete all that apply)," the form requires the complainant to attest. The form includes checkboxes for disclosures to other inspectors general, other agencies, the Department of Justice, the Government Accountability Office, the Office of Special Counsel, other executive branch departments, Congress and its respective committees, and media.
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I'd been waiting to do that.
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 04, 2019 04:04 PM (WkmoA) 2
He/she blows more than whistles.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2019 04:04 PM (ppBhU) 3
>He attested -- under pain of penalty -- that there were not other contacts he had made about his complaint.
That's it. Bring out the comfy chair. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:04 PM (jYnPD) 4
Catherine : I wish you to have my children. Call Me.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (6mPBH) 5
Coulda been first but for Shannon Bream
Posted by: Hands at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (786Ro) 6
The plot thickens.. But I'm not holding my breath that this will stop this insanity
Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (O2RFr) Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (PRN3w) 8
Heh, good job Frodo!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (a4qVe) 9
Nice
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (cqNba) Posted by: Brother Cavil is bored, why do you ask? at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (AM1GF) 11
Pain of penalty for a deep state democrat isn't as bad as you think.
It usually means a promotion. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (1ISKN) 12
Aaaaaaawwwwwww.........that's a felony. Now we will see if the DOJ makes something of it.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (formerly GWS) at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (JUOKG) 13
LOL get fucked!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (QgqhX) Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (WkmoA) 15
Stupid democrats can't even run a soft-coup without tripping over their own . . . law-breaking.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (jYnPD) Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (9hauA) 17
11 Pain of penalty for a deep state democrat isn't as bad as you think.
It usually means a promotion. Hahahahaha... Damn... You're right Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (O2RFr) 18
Under pain of $300K/year fellowship at a leftist think tank.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (PRN3w) 19
He attested -- under pain of penalty -- that there were not other contacts he had made about his complaint.
IG's are pikers. We decline to penalize. Posted by: Federal Prosecutors at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (786Ro) 20
WB was ascairt of the Orange Man!!
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (88+cf) 21
Classic swamp critter. You can drain the swamp but they don't crawl away. They just burrow in.
Posted by: torabora at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (Y274z) 22
Check.
@RepRatcliffe Since the ICIG has no evidence whatsoever about the relationship and contacts between the whistleblower and Schiff's staff, the investigation has to get that information from other fact witnesses. Who also happen to be running the investigation. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (ZLI7S) Posted by: Ha at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (B/g/o) 24
Guess they forgot to change that part of the rules when they made hearsay ok.
Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (Z7lwY) 25
I mean, hey, he's lying (under pain of perjury)...
+++++++++++++++ Forget pain of perjury. How about pain of boiling tar? Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (ptqGC) 26
Now I want tacos
Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (a4qVe) 27
Say! Would advising this "person" to not disclose those contacts qualify as "suborning perjury"? If so, ain't that a felony?
Posted by: Brother Cavil is bored, why do you ask? at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (AM1GF) 28
Rules are only for us, folks.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (Boy/L) 29
Too bad perjury doesn't mean anything anymore.
Posted by: josephistan at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (7HtZB) 30
Speaking of Houghton Mifflin readers from last post, does anyone remember the short story, "The Unlucky Winner", where a student plagairizes a poem for a writing class, only to have his teacher enter him in a literary contest as a result?
I suspect this is what is happening to this phony "Whistleblower" if not to Adam Schitt himself. Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (ujg0T) 31
there is no Trump Curse. it just seems that way because his enemies are drooling retards. enjoy prison, asshole and enjoy prison asshole.
Posted by: x at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (nFwvY) 32
15 Stupid democrats can't even run a soft-coup without tripping over their own . . . law-breaking.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:06 PM (jYnPD) It's true. They don't have dicks. Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (QgqhX) 33
[Hand wave] A mere oversight. Why can't you concentrate on the substance of the accusation even though it's total bullshit?
Posted by: TrueConRealVirtueGuys at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (RD7QR) 34
Evidently Mr. Ringo's an educated man. Now I really hate him.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (9PtLS) 35
Are we going to have a baby eating thread? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (Tnijr) 36
Oopty.
Posted by: Pencil Dick Blower at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (v0R5T) 37
Think of all the good stuff you could get if you could waterboard swamp critters.
Posted by: torabora at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (Y274z) 38
Willowed:
It would seem to me the next step for the Repub's in the House is to send a criminal referral of the WB's potential felony to the DOJ either directly or through the ICAG although I wouldn't trust the ICAG. Having the DOJ subpoena the WB, Schiff, and his staff would be beautiful. I mean somebody lied, right? Posted by: WisRich at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (G0vdT) 39
I mean, hey, he's lying (under pain of perjury) on the form in which he makes his (Adam Schiff-lawyer-crafted) complaint, but we should totes believe him about everything else. Everything else he says he heard second or third-hand.
Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:04 PM Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures! Every minute Trump is still in office, millions of brown people, women, and LGBTQRSTWXYZ people DIIIEEEE!!! Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (9hauA) Posted by: Yo! at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (1XAal) 41
The complainants failure to disclose his interactions with Schiff or his staff could put him in legal hot water
He was afraid! He's in so much danger, dontcha know. /s Posted by: Hands at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (786Ro) 42
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Are we going to have a baby eating thread? Asking for a friend. Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (Tnijr) Climate Change Gourmet needs your recipe submissions. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (jYnPD) 43
It's a felony... BUT Dem so free as a bird.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (wiXsO) 44
Felonious democrats boring.
#LockThemTheFuckUp Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (x6XkS) 45
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (Zz0t1) 46
Are we going to have a baby eating thread? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (Tnijr) I chuckled. Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (9hauA) 47
I think Schiff needs to call him before a public hearing immediately to get to the bottom of this.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (r+sAi) 48
The Federalist now has a copy of the transcript of Volker's testimony yesterday - it's clear that Chris Wallace never even looked at it. Adam Schiff told him "oh it's bad for Trump" so Wallace is on camera saying "oh it is bad for Trump!!!"
when in fact Volker's testimony backed up everything Trump has said completely. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (trdmm) 49
Schiff is the whistleblower.
Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1) 50
Note, this would fall under the exact same law they used to go after General Flynn.
Making a false statement to an Agent of the United States. Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (NgKpN) Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (Z+IKu) 52
Every minute Trump is still in office, millions of brown people, women, and LGBTQRSTWXYZ people DIIIEEEE!!!
Posted by: chique d'afrique Also, not our sort, dear. Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (T6t7i) 53
Schiff is the whistleblower.
Posted by: Sponge Him or people in his office drafted it, yes, I agree. Posted by: Brother Cavil is bored, why do you ask? at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (AM1GF) 54
This is going to continue until someone gets some consequences good and hard.
The legal system really best roll up the sleeves and get to work sooner rather then before it's too late.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman 55
There should be a betting market on wether this guy will ever publicly testify. (This is starting to remind me of Blasey-Ford).
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (Xqo6t) 56
Top. Men.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (oVJmc) Posted by: Yo! at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (1XAal) Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (ZLI7S) 59
They'll just quietly and mysteriously amend the form again. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (gvmfs) 60
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Liar, liar pants on fire. Now, let's you just drop them pants..... Just take 'em right off. Posted by: Hairyback Guy Where do you stand on squealing like a pig? Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (T6t7i) 61
49 Schiff is the whistleblower.
Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1) And Paul is the Walrus! Posted by: TrueConRealVirtueGuys at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (RD7QR) 62
Are we still concerned with Process Crimes? I seem to recall they were a thing . . .
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (xptlg) 63
41 The complainants failure to disclose his interactions with Schiff or his staff could put him in legal hot water
He was afraid! He's in so much danger, dontcha know. /s Posted by: Hands at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (786Ro) As the conversations were classified? And Schiff and his staff KNEW IT. They should be in hot water as well. Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (NgKpN) 64
That's not a whistleblower, right?
That's just a spy. Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (PRN3w) Just a liar, perhaps? Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (9hauA) 65
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There should be a betting market on wether this guy will ever publicly testify. (This is starting to remind me of Blasey-Ford). Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (Xqo6t) Mmm. Seared Inedible Hippocampii. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (jYnPD) 66
And the IG will recommend prosecution, which the DOJ will decline.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (7f3YP) 67
55 There should be a betting market on wether this guy will ever publicly testify. (This is starting to remind me of Blasey-Ford).
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (Xqo6t) Anyone here wager money at predictit.org? Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (ujg0T) 68
26 Now I want tacos
Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (a4qVe) Me too. With a side of B( . )( . )BS. Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (QgqhX) 69
Are we going to have a baby eating thread? Asking for a friend. Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (Tnijr)
Special thread on Sunday after the food thread. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (j0JAA) 70
You will all be shocked to know that every single hag on The View today were absolutely in agreement that the Orange Man MUST be impeached. And that included strictly dickly Meggie Mac and fellow "conservative" Abby Huntsman (and "Republican strategist" Ana Navarro).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (ptqGC) 71
Coulda been first but for Shannon Bream
Posted by: Hands at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (786Ro) ........ That's a considerate gentleman to let her come first. Posted by: Schiff's Pencil Dick Blower at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (v0R5T) 72
I mean, maybe he lied, but only because we weren't supposed to find out about it.
Posted by: f2000 at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (9WiM6) 73
Do you think Schiff makes that gagging noise when he gives a blowjob?
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (HALdu) 74
58 Volker is leaving the McCain Institute.
Unexpectedly. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (ZLI7S) Of course he was at the McCain Institute. Of course. Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (RD7QR) 75
DNC has started to raise funds for their Fall Baby Back Ribs BBQ event, iykwimaikyd.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (r+sAi) 76
Catherine : I wish you to have my children. Call Me.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (6mPBH) Why not just auction them off? Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (z79tQ) 77
"Climate Change Gourmet needs your recipe submissions."
Can we do like the last time. Just send them to Bluebell and Weasel. There is some small talk of another cookbook, you know. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (cqNba) 78
76 Catherine : I wish you to have my children. Call Me.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (6mPBH) Why not just auction them off? Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (z79tQ) Put them on eBaby. Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (QgqhX) 79
I can't testify because I take my aspirin rectally.
Posted by: WB at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (B/g/o) 80
Schiff is the whistleblower.
Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1) I'm sure he's blown many whistles. Posted by: Mark1971 at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (xPl2J) 81
Wasn't Volker a Bush guy?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (ptqGC) 82
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49 Schiff is the whistleblower. Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1) And Paul is the Walrus! Posted by: TrueConRealVirtueGuys Does he like oysters? Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (T6t7i) 83
But don't worry, this will be investigated, exhaustively, and in a couple of years, something may get done.
Maybe. Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (NgKpN) 84
It is hilarious watching these clowns on the stupid box. They are like school girls ... no offense meant to school girls, but watching for just a few seconds of the Chuck Toad was all I could bear. I unplugged in 2012, allowing myself a snippet of YT video now and then to observe how the insanity on the left has progressed.
They are completely consumed by delusions. I doubt there is anyone out here in the cheap seats who gives a fuck. This is what living in a bubble does to them. Just following orders, I get that, but it is high comedy at this point. They can all DIAF, it is laughable at this point. They've burned every bridge, and lost any shred of credibility with even the deadest of brain viewers out there. Trust, and credibility is their stock in trade, their currency. This doesn't end well, it didn't start out too damn good either. "Ha .. ha .. ha.." as dear old Dad used to say. Posted by: Common Tater at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (6mPBH) 85
55 There should be a betting market on wether this guy will ever publicly testify. (This is starting to remind me of Blasey-Ford).
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (Xqo6t) If the reports are tru that this same person was tased with digging for dirt on Manafort during 2016... then there is no fucking way the Dems will let him testify. (I wonder if Schiff's office promised him he would not be asked to testify?) Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (Xqo6t) 86
I mean, at this point, a Democrat could murder someone on the House floor by shooting them in the head, from behind, on live TV and the media would spin it as self-defense.
And 50% of the country would agree. Posted by: Biergood at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (yb6r+) 87
Forget pain of perjury. How about pain of boiling tar?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (ptqGC) 26 Now I want tacos Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (a4qVe) You want tar tacos? Posted by: DR.WTF at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (aS1PU) 88
a coup plotter lying while he runs an op against Trump, and the complaint itself is full of lies.
So another chance for Barr to investigate/prosecute ... or "once again, we decline to prosecute" ... the DeepState brotherhood protects its own ... no indictments means more criminal PsyOps will be run, since they are protected. yes "something is happening", but only indictments will stop this and futures coups and sedition. If the something is just finding "mistakes were made" ... and giving early retirement to a few ... then we've been sold out ... again. tick tock ... we'll see. Posted by: illiniwek at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (Cus5s) 89
There's no pain of perjury. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (vtcmf) 90
The McCains should be nothing but loyal, obsequious, and fawning to Trump since he let them use Air Force planes and have the run of the capital for daddy's week long ceremony.
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (HALdu) 91
55 There should be a betting market on wether this guy will ever publicly testify. (This is starting to remind me of Blasey-Ford).
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (Xqo6t) The kicker is that he has nothing to testify about! Anything he says is worthless, because he only said "someone else told me something had happened." And to be legal for a second, the reason Hearsay testimony is tossed out is because there is no way to tell if the statement is true or false. Of course someone else said this to you - but was this second person lying or telling the truth? We don't know, they're not here to question, we don't even know who they are. That is why hearsay is worthless. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (trdmm) 92
That makes sense because, in a real WB situation, they would probably want to know how widespread this "secret" got. The WB complaint is a place to share problems that contain classified information--you still shouldn't be spreading complaints dealing with classified information outside of the need-to-know.
Congress is supposed to be forwarded urgent whistleblower complaints as their need to know, once an IG has decided that redress is only possible by sacrificing classification for addressing the complaint. In this case, the weiner-blower made the decision for themselves and jumped ALL administrative review. It's ridiculous for the IG or the DNI to say that this was all above board. It wasn't. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (DuZls) 93
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"Climate Change Gourmet needs your recipe submissions." Can we do like the last time. Just send them to Bluebell and Weasel. There is some small talk of another cookbook, you know. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (cqNba) Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (jYnPD) 94
So Shiff is not only in trouble for lying, he is also in trouble for failure to disclose, and also for failing to mention that he pretended to be a whistleblower when his staff wrote the complaint.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (YslsA) 95
Insom LOL
Tacos do manage to find the boobs if you're not careful Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (a4qVe) 96
The McCain institute offers degrees in cuckology.
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (xPl2J) 97
McCain was also knee deep the Benghazi fiasco.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (nDdGQ) Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (M+Lyo) 99
Oh boy, a c( . )( . )b( .Y. ) k
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (WkmoA) 100
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49 Schiff is the whistleblower. Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1) And Paul is the Walrus! Posted by: TrueConRealVirtueGuys Does he like oysters? Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (T6t7i) Koo Koo Ka Choo Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (ujg0T) 101
Done it a million times and ain't no ways hurtin'.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (vtcmf) 102
And the IG will recommend prosecution, which the DOJ will decline.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (7f3YP) This time they are going to prosecute the IG. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (HALdu) 103
when in fact Volker's testimony backed up everything Trump has said completely.
You don't say. Like I said earlier today: Funny, if Volker's testimony were so devastating, the Dems would have already leaked all over the damn place. Let me put some learning on everyone... Withholding aid for the Ukrainians not investigating 2016 is NOT the same as withholding aid for not investigating Vice President Kinnock and his drug-huffing spawn. Because Barr and company are digging on the former, the strategy is make people believe it is the latter. That's what every bit of this is about. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (Boy/L) 104
Rastros!
Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (Ti9Td) 105
This whistleblower is a Peter Stroker type. Hard core leftist out to do his agenda no matter what. And he was going to try to take down Trump no matter what Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (Un9AW) 106
Can someone just make a citizen arrest and arrest Schiff for brains already?!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (a4qVe) 107
McCains should be nothing but loyal, obsequious, and fawning to Trump since he let them use Air Force planes and have the run of the capital for daddy's week long ceremony.
Posted by: not so -- But he is shutting down their Ukranian gravy train. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (YslsA) 108
How does Schiff run an investigation of himself?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (ZLI7S) 109
This might actually be in trouble. Walking away from felony charges applies to GS-13 and above. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (gvmfs) 110
willowed, so- fuck Romney and his shitstain sidekick Topo Gigio, Paul Ryan.
Posted by: free tibet at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (oTMWb) 111
70 I did not know Ana Navarro was a Republican strategist. Kinda like Ike calling Rommel for tips on defeating the west wall.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (C1Lsn) 112
Schiff can blow a whistle with that little bitty neck.
Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (Ti9Td) 113
70 You will all be shocked to know that every single hag on The View today were absolutely in agreement that the Orange Man MUST be impeached. And that included strictly dickly Meggie Mac and fellow "conservative" Abby Huntsman (and "Republican strategist" Ana Navarro).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (ptqGC) What will be fun is watching them come to terms with it if he isn't. I was sure they would a couple days ago, but this entire thing is falling apart a lot faster than I thought it could. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (trdmm) 114
It's not that we're supposed to believe the guy that lied on the form, we're supposed to believe his lies about what was said in the call over the transcripts
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (KHSJq) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (cqNba) 116
It is Nat'l Taco Day.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (r+sAi) 117
I'm sure the IG will retroactively de-criminalize it. Just watch.
Posted by: JPV at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (T6elx) 118
That is why hearsay is worthless.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (trdmm) And why Trump releasing the best evidence, the transcript, was a master stroke. Knocked the wheels of months and months of potential salacious "revelations" right out from under them, and now instead, they are spinning and struggling to contain the damage of their farce. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (jYnPD) 119
Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (jYnPD) --- Hoard Oerves Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (DuZls) 120
Anyone here wager money at predictit.org?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (ujg0T) I tried last year but lost everything. Betted on McSally to win Senate and R's to keep house. Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Xqo6t) 121
Posted by: Biergood at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (yb6r+)
87 Forget pain of perjury. How about pain of boiling tar? Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (ptqGC) 26 Now I want tacos Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:07 PM (a4qVe) You want tar tacos? Posted by: DR.WTF at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (aS1PU) Yes, hot spicey TARCOs! Posted by: Tarco Bell at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (NgKpN) Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Ti9Td) 123
"I weep for you," the Walrus said: "I deeply sympathize." With sobs and tears he sorted out Those of the largest size, Holding his pocket-handkerchief Before his streaming eyes. "O Oysters," said the Carpenter, "You've had a pleasant run! Shall we be trotting home again?' But answer came there none-- And this was scarcely odd, because They'd eaten every one. Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (T6t7i) 124
30 Speaking of Houghton Mifflin readers from last post, does anyone remember the short story, "The Unlucky Winner", where a student plagairizes a poem for a writing class, only to have his teacher enter him in a literary contest as a result?
I suspect this is what is happening to this phony "Whistleblower" if not to Adam Schitt himself. Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:08 PM (ujg0T) Supposedly that actually happened in my school. Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Z7lwY) Posted by: Mittoff Rommel at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (UFLLM) 126
Tacos do manage to find the boobs if you're not careful
Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (a4qVe) Perhaps that's what I had in mind all along. Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (QgqhX) 127
Fat, disheveled turd Jonah Goldberg: "The probably accurate suspicion that the media and the Democrats would behave as badly - or just almost as badly - as many Republicans and media conservatives are behaving now isn't an excuse. But it is part of an explanation. It took a long time to get us here, and pretty much everyone deserves some portion of blame (including me). I'll write more about that another time, but suffice it to say, I'm dedicating a big chunk of the rest of my life to trying to do something about it. Stay tuned." His exciting new venture is gonna be LIT! Jonah's gonna selflessly SAVE AMERICA from the Trumpian demon, dudes! Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Jdtn2) 128
The antiTrumps can't even fill out a complaint form without lying.
Posted by: portlandon at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (+oR7L) 129
. . . and Schiff lied about the contact with the Wb as well.
Gosh, it's almost as if they both understand that this information would harm what they're attempting to pull over on the rest of us. Exit question: Why has Schiff not been forced to recuse himself for this? Hell, why hasn't he been removed from the committee? Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (bDqIh) 130
53 Schiff is the whistleblower.
Posted by: Sponge Him or people in his office drafted it, yes, I agree. --- I'll go with: The whistleblower probably approached staff (probably even already well known to them) with a juicy tidbit he thought they could use. In that sense he is real. He was directed to the left preferred shady law firm for laundering this into something usable. The law firm added to the tidbit all the things Schiff needed to add to make it a juicy media story. Then it was given back to the whistleblower to file. Posted by: f2000 at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (9WiM6) 131
I will gladly pay Wednesday for a taco today.
Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Ti9Td) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (cqNba) 133
How does Schiff run an investigation of himself?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (ZLI7S) Well, his head is up his ass, shouldnt be hard Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (M+Lyo) 134
I really would like to mount an apple between Ana Navarro's teeth.
But the porcine one does make me understand why many Nicaraguans supported the Sandinistas. Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (ujg0T) 135
Do you think Schiff makes that gagging noise when he gives a blowjob?
Posted by: not so This. can we please stop with the "whistleblower" nonsense? Shiff for brains blows goats. That is all. Posted by: Seamus the roof riding dog at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (9tTBE) 136
There is some small talk of another cookbook, you know.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (cqNba) Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (jYnPD) ......... So all submitted recipes must be boiled or BBQed? Posted by: wth at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (v0R5T) 137
Also what's the deal with Italy?
Nancy Palsi and AOC went there to get AOC back in line. Barr is there now. Nancy is starting to have the Ukraine issue that Biden has. Where is the string that unravels all of this?! Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (a4qVe) 138
114 It's not that we're supposed to believe the guy that lied on the form, we're supposed to believe his lies about what was said in the call over the transcripts
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (KHSJq) The whole thing is based on the 2nd Hand accusation, of a Thought Crime. They are saying he MEANT to do something, not that he did. Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (NgKpN) 139
Finally, someone leftwing and insignificant enough that we can indict him. That'll appease the proles for a while, and we can get back to work investigating the important things, like Trump's 1975 tax return.
Posted by: The FBI at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (Z4rgH) 140
That's not a whistleblower, right?
That's just a spy. -- Just a liar, perhaps? Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM (9hauA) --- I think "just a liar" would work right up to the point where there was a concerted attempt to attack the office. Griping in a bar = just a liar Taking specific concerted action with co-conspirators to move the coup ball towards a goal = something else Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (PRN3w) 141
Do you think Schiff makes that gagging noise when he gives a blowjob?
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (HALdu) Happily, I have never thought of Schiff giving a blow job until now. I gave it a brief thought because you mentioned it, but plan to never think of it again. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (j0JAA) 142
Take him for an MRI.
He's either a layer of felt over batting or there's a thread of GSW wrapped around his cortex. Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (FhXTo) Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (u//oP) 144
How does Schiff run an investigation of himself?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:15 PM (ZLI7S) Like everything else he does: poorly, awkwardly, and embarrassingly, with no self-awareness. Posted by: hogmartin at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (t+qrx) 145
Cavuto is another Resister.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (ptqGC) 146
So, was the form to report changed to reflect there is no need to have directly witnessed wrongdoing or not?
I've heard both stories. And if it was changed, did anyone ask the IG why he thought it was a good idea to embrace office gossip regarding witnesses? Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (7f3YP) 147
48 The Federalist now has a copy of the transcript of Volker's testimony yesterday - it's clear that Chris Wallace never even looked at it. Adam Schiff told him "oh it's bad for Trump" so Wallace is on camera saying "oh it is bad for Trump!!!"
when in fact Volker's testimony backed up everything Trump has said completely. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:10 PM (trdmm) Of course he did. He's one of the three stooges. Never forget that the Fox debates weren't awful because of Me-Again. They were awful because of all three of the "moderators" Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (Z7lwY) 148
Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time.
-- I hear the battered women recipe is quite nice. Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (PRN3w) 149
136 There is some small talk of another cookbook, you know.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:13 PM (cqNba) Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (jYnPD) ......... So all submitted recipes must be boiled or BBQed? Posted by: wth at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (v0R5T) Cannibal Bob? Soooooo, Lady Fingers and Long Pig? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (NgKpN) 150
McCains should be nothing but loyal, obsequious, and fawning to Trump since he let them use Air Force planes and have the run of the capital for daddy's week long ceremony.
Money != class or a sense of gratitude. Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting. at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (SchxB) Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (ZLI7S) 152
So the IG was willing to rewrite the form to let this cockwad submit his complaint with nothing more than second hand information but not get rid of the disclosure elements?
Dude, once you board the treason train you need to understand it is all or nothing. How much worse would it have been if he had eliminated the disclosure and first hand knowledge requirements? Would someone in congress or the media have said "whoa, changing the whistleblower first hand knowledge requirement is one thing but first hand knowledge and disclosure, that is out of bounds." Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (HALdu) 153
Lebron was supposed to bring the tacos on Tuesday. But the courts are keeping him down.
Posted by: Hands at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (786Ro) 154
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The antiTrumps can't even fill out a complaint form without Posted by: portlandon at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (+oR7L) Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (jYnPD) 155
120 Anyone here wager money at predictit.org?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (ujg0T) I tried last year but lost everything. Betted on McSally to win Senate and R's to keep house. Posted by: Serious Cat at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Xqo6t) I did too. :-( But now, there are serious leftists bidding up the odds "price" of impeachment and a Demunist winning in 2020 over there. I say there is money to be made on shorting them. Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (ujg0T) 156
Exit question: Why has Schiff not been forced to recuse himself for this? Hell, why hasn't he been removed from the committee?
Posted by: Lizzy How? Wouldn't the Dem-controlled House have to vote to remove him? Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (T6t7i) 157
116 It is Nat'l Taco Day.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (r+sAi) Also National Vodka Day, so have a lot of vodka and then drunk-eat a couple tacos, for America. [eagle screech] Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (RD7QR) 158
What IS the deal with Italy?
You go there, the pizza's all wrong, the spaghetti's all wrong, their towers are falling over and everybody talks funny. Posted by: Jarry Seinfeld at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (u//oP) Posted by: The Paolo at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (786Ro) 160
I thought the IRS made all those predictit.org type sites illegal?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (1ISKN) 161
Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:14 PM (DuZls)
To be fair, there's classified and there's classified, and in cases of national emergency Democrats are automatically granted declassification rights if the release of the information would harm Republicans. Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (E85B2) 162
151 Donnie Two Scoops has weighed in on Ratcliffe's tweet.
@realDonaldTrump WOW, this is big stuff! Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (ZLI7S) ----- Why, yes it is Donny Two Scoops. Posted by: WisRich at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (G0vdT) Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (Ti9Td) 164
St. James Comey finds no criminal intent here and thus no reasonable prosecutor ... and all means are justified in trying to take out literally Hitler.
Posted by: ShainS at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (WktGK) 165
The transcript clearly shows there was no quid pro quo much less an extortion threat. And the Ukrainian President said he was not aware of any hold on the aid package .
But the MSM keeps implying the opposite. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (nDdGQ) 166
Whoopsie!
Posted by: G marks the spot at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (Js8Dx) Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (z79tQ) 168
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Donnie Two Scoops has weighed in on Ratcliffe's tweet. @realDonaldTrump WOW, this is big stuff! Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (ZLI7S) Schiff, you arrogant bastard. You've killed us! Posted by: Nanzi at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (jYnPD) 169
I think "just a liar" would work right up to the point where there was a concerted attempt to attack the office.
Griping in a bar = just a liar Taking specific concerted action with co-conspirators to move the coup ball towards a goal = something else Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (PRN3w) I meant that gracing him/her/xhe with the term spy is too fancy. Friggin' liar and worse, is what I say. I hope we eventually add convict to the list of descriptors. Posted by: chique d'afrique at October 04, 2019 04:21 PM (9hauA) 170
If big fish like that goddam treasonous traitor al-Brennan aren't swinging from lamp posts, these small fry sure ain't gonna.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (u//oP) 171
You will all be shocked to know that every single hag on The View today were absolutely in agreement that the Orange Man MUST be impeached. And that included strictly dickly Meggie Mac and fellow "conservative" Abby Huntsman (and "Republican strategist" Ana Navarro).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM ************** Does Meghan even read her husband's website-The Federalist? Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (wiXsO) 172
It's sure looking like Schiff will be hitting me.....
Posted by: The fan at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (XT6Vl) 173
Mr. Big Stuff, who do you think you are?!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (r+sAi) Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (ptqGC) 175
Obama withheld NATO protection from the Ukraine and let Russia annex the Korea!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (1ISKN) 176
Yes but he is a whistleblower so he is sacred. And scared.
And if you are worried that Donald Trump is going to have some mob enforcer kill you, the last thing you would expect is a perfect score on the did you fill out the form right test. Posted by: blaster at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (ZfRYq) 177
ET. Eddie Torres the Extra Testicle.
Posted by: Sponge at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (Zz0t1) 178
They better get PDT out of there. This 3.5% unemployment rate must not stand. Let's get it back to Barky's double digits. Oh, yeah, not enough peons on food stamps. Can't have that.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (C1Lsn) 179
Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time.
my Thumbs in a Blanket recipe is on its way! Posted by: x at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (nFwvY) Posted by: Yo! at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (1XAal) 181
So I've been thinking about Ukraine.
All apologies to the guy on the bus on Seinfeld, Ukraine was weak. They were a relatively new country being attacked by Putin. Our defense was the only game in town--because you can't cash European concern to buy weapons. So, Washington profiteers moved in and told Ukraine just how they were going to have to play the game to get people in Washington rich in exchange for a modicum of protection. I would be that much surprised if the reputation of "rampant corruption" in Ukraine isn't part of just reflection on Washington's participation in it + Russion-ish oligarchs. There seems to be this feeling of a coverup that the Dems practically ran Ukraine and squeezed them whenever they were short on cash. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (DuZls) 182
I think he's ok. He had no intent to get caught, so Barr won't have much of a case against him.
Posted by: Comey Sock On at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (cOE+1) Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (Tnijr) Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (QgqhX) 185
I can just see the headlines, "Trump's DOJ Prosecutes Whistleblower". Doubtful.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (DIyMv) 186
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Obama withheld NATO protection from the Ukraine and let Russia annex the Korea! Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:22 PM (1ISKN) Korea? Holy hell, he really IS Shit Midas! Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (jYnPD) 187
You will all be shocked to know that every single hag on The View today were absolutely in agreement that the Orange Man MUST be impeached. And that included strictly dickly Meggie Mac and fellow "conservative" Abby Huntsman (and "Republican strategist" Ana Navarro).
Posted by: Jane D'oh I'm convinced, if I go to Hell, my eternal torment will be to sit on the panel as a conservative guest on The View. Posted by: Biergood at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (yb6r+) 188
156 Exit question: Why has Schiff not been forced to recuse himself for this? Hell, why hasn't he been removed from the committee?
2nd question first - because he runs the committee, and it is totally corrupt. 1st question, recusal: recusal is a big joke, there *are* no actual rules to force it on Congressmen or anyone else, but Republicans do it because Democrats and their partners in the MSM screech about it nonstop. Sessions could have told those demanding he recuse to STFU, and nothing would have happened. But he folded like a cheap lawn chair. Nunes recused because Ryan forced him to, because Ryan was playing for the other team. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (trdmm) 189
The Federalist has obtained a copy of Volker's statement from yesterday. It's a complete vindication of Trump.
https://tinyurl.com/y4jrdcwq Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (sWM8x) 190
Do you think Schiff makes that gagging noise when he gives a blowjob?
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:12 PM (HALdu) Happily, I have never thought of Schiff giving a blow job until now. I gave it a brief thought because you mentioned it, but plan to never think of it again. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:19 PM (j0JAA) Simple yes or no would have been easier. How do you look at Schiff and not wonder what his blowjob style is? His bug eyes have to make everyone wonder if he was giving a hardcore blowjob which wnet wrong somehow and left his eyes bugging out the way they do. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (HALdu) 191
OT: The MaryAnne / Ginger controversy having long been settled in favor of Maryanne, I now pose this question.
Lana Kaine or Katya Kazanova? Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (T6t7i) Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (WkmoA) 193
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"So all submitted recipes must be boiled or BBQed" I've got a recipie for a nice casserole. Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (Tnijr) I got a nice recipe for a waitress sandwich. Posted by: Zombie Kennedy at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (jYnPD) 194
The complainants failure to disclose his interactions with Schiff or his staff could put him in legal hot water
He was afraid! He's in so much danger, dontcha know. /s Posted by: Hands at October 04, 2019 04:09 PM (786Ro) As the conversations were classified? And Schiff and his staff KNEW IT. They should be in hot water as well. Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:11 PM --- And I will guarantee you they were not conducted in a classified environment. Probably in some staffers office so they wouldn't be seen going/coming from schiff's office. Posted by: Mr. Scott (formerly GWS) at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (JUOKG) 195
I guess Meggie and Ben avoid politics at the dinner table.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (ptqGC) 196
Legal hot water.
. I just felt a shift in the force. A thousand hardcore conservative GOP wool sweater vests just shrank... like grape to .. raison. Posted by: 13times at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (K3B2k) 197
Obama withheld NATO protection from the Ukraine and let Russia annex the Korea!
We need to have a word with your spell-checker... Posted by: t-bird at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (cOE+1) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (iUJ3n) 199
Lana Kaine or Katya Kazanova?
Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (T6t7i) We talking pre or post cyborg Katya here? Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (QgqhX) 200
WHOOPSIES
Posted by: Lilly Von Schtoop at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (6MoD2) 201
Pinky swearsies.
Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (gmo/4) 202
Apparently perjury is only really enforced when Republicans are involved.
Posted by: Blago at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (sjTfF) Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (Ti9Td) 204
. and Schiff lied about the contact with the Wb as well.
Gosh, it's almost as if they both understand that this information would harm what they're attempting to pull over on the rest of us. Exit question: Why has Schiff not been forced to recuse himself for this? Hell, why hasn't he been removed from the committee? Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (bDqIh) Because Democrats run the entire House. Each committee has an odd number of members, of which the majority are Dems. Each Committee has a Dem chairman who sets the agenda, the timeline, witnesses, etc. And Nancy is Queen of it all. This is why this morning I was headshaking at the poster who was screaming that the Republicans should be calling all these people in to be witnesses. The Republican's have almost no power to call witnesses, unless the Dem chair agrees. Does anyone think Schiff is going to actually allow witnesses that counter an argument for Impeachment or even are going to present facts? This is why Nancy declared an impeachment inquiry without a vote, so while it's illigitimate, it's still going on no matter how much the republican's protest. The Democrats aren't interested in rule of law, traditions, or House Rules. They own the House, they make the rules, daily. Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (7f3YP) 205
They are saying he MEANT to do something, not that he did.
Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:18 PM (NgKpN) It's worse, I think they're saying he might have ONCE THOUGHT about doing something, not that he did! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (E85B2) 206
We talking pre or post cyborg Katya here? I'm not sure it matters, but just for the sake of argument, I'll say pre. Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (T6t7i) 207
199 Lana Kaine or Katya Kazanova?
Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (T6t7i) ------ I'd weigh in if I knew who they were. Posted by: WisRich at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (G0vdT) 208
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We talking pre or post cyborg Katya here? I'm not sure it matters, but just for the sake of argument, I'll say pre. Posted by: pep at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM (T6t7i) Then Katya, hands down. Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (QgqhX) 209
"How do you look at Schiff and not wonder what his blowjob style is? '
Urrrp I think I'm gonna hurl... Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (Tnijr) 210
I wonder if Romney is "troubled" by any of this....
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (FiUMj) 211
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (HALdu)
So you want to talk about men giving other men blowjobs? There's probably a toll free number for that. Good luck. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (j0JAA) 212
>>There seems to be this feeling of a coverup that the Dems practically ran Ukraine and squeezed them whenever they were short on cash.
Well, that's probably because that's what happened. And they didn't just squeeze them for cash. They squeezed them for exactly what they are saying is an impeachable offense, asking another country (Ukraine) to meddle in our 2016 election. I'm more and more convinced that Trump set this up. I mean Schiff is dumb as hell but if Trump didn't plan this then Schiff set up the predicate for Barr's investigation of Democrats. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (ZLI7S) 213
Someone needs to send Ace an image of the wrestler Bill Goldberg. He can use it the next time he rips on Jonah. Add the text over it "Who's Next?! (to do my wife)"
Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (Z7lwY) 214
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Legal hot water. . I just felt a shift in the force. A thousand hardcore conservative GOP wool sweater vests just shrank... like grape to .. raison. Posted by: 13times at October 04, 2019 04:25 PM (K3B2k) We were in the pool! Posted by: U.S.S. Krystal at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (jYnPD) 215
I know it was the Crimea. It was the Honorable Maxine Waters that called it the Korea.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (1ISKN) 216
Fat, disheveled turd Jonah Goldberg:
"The probably accurate suspicion that the media and the Democrats would behave as badly - or just almost as badly - as many Republicans and media conservatives are behaving now isn't an excuse. But it is part of an explanation. It took a long time to get us here, and pretty much everyone deserves some portion of blame (including me). ... Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Jdtn2) ++++++++++++ LOLWUT? How are the Republicans* and "conservative media" behaving badly? The conservative or neutral press - I'm talking about the stunning work being done by the likes of Solomon, Ross, that lady who's name I don't remember, Hemingway, the Federalist in general, etc. - is putting out some of the best journalism we've seen in *decades.* The firestarters at Brietbart are tamer than the most milquetoast CNN reporter. * I mean real Republicans, of course - not the Romney types. What kind of drugs is Goldberg using? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (I2dne) 217
I'll write more about that another time, but suffice it to say, I'm dedicating a big chunk of the rest of my life to trying to do something about it.
Stay tuned." Jonah g Fuck him too. The best thing he could do is make sure the rest of his life.... fuckit. Not going to say it. Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (z79tQ) 218
So the IG was willing to rewrite the form to let this cockwad submit his complaint with nothing more than second hand information but not get rid of the disclosure elements?
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:20 PM (HALdu) --- I really hate the prediction-trust-me-ego trip thing, but at this point, my guess is that Schiff schmoozed or applied pressure to the IG. Probably through an intermediary, but perhaps directly. We have to look into whether chairs of committees over a certain sector of the government are running little fiefdoms. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (DuZls) 219
Clearly, Trump has to be impeached for making the Democrats WANT to impeach him.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (Boy/L) 220
Urrrp I think I'm gonna hurl... Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (Tnijr) You know it's bad when M. O'loch wants to hurl. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (j0JAA) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (cqNba) 222
And why Trump releasing the best evidence, the transcript, was a master stroke. Knocked the wheels of months and months of potential salacious "revelations" right out from under them, and now instead, they are spinning and struggling to contain the damage of their farce.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:16 PM (jYnPD) I agree with this assessment. Why would Pence resist releasing the transcript, if what was reported is correct? Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (iuFgi) 223
I would be that much surprised if the reputation of "rampant corruption" in Ukraine isn't part of just reflection on Washington's participation in it + Russion-ish oligarchs.
There seems to be this feeling of a coverup that the Dems practically ran Ukraine and squeezed them whenever they were short on cash. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (DuZls) Just what the F is an Oligarch? That term is thrown around as a pejorative, but what is it? Is it a Title? Is it a Governmental Position? Is it a Rich Man who has government influence? Like, oh, Bill Gates or Mitt Romney? Or is it just a rich foreigner that we want to make seem Evil? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (NgKpN) 224
I have investigated myself and have concluded that there is no foundation for my head.
Posted by: Adam Schitt at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (vtcmf) 225
Pre-cyborg Katya. Post-cyborg Katya ran off with that bag of dicks cyborg Barry!
Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (gmo/4) 226
I was a tween when Watergate came around, and it was the first time in my life when I started to seriously pay attention to the news.
I'm thinking about that as I watch this horseshit, and it sure does make me go back and question what was reported about Watergate back in the day, and the conventional wisdom generated thereby. I absorbed it like a kitten lapping milk. Watergate was a coup achieved by the Democrats. It led to Jimmy Carter, much good that it did them. Nixon should not have resigned. Nixon was deposed. By the Left. After the war, many camps to build. Many huts to fill. Many fields to hoe. And the question staring us in the face: Who builds the camps? Posted by: Monty James at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (Zqz9o) 227
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Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:24 PM (HALdu) So you want to talk about men giving other men blowjobs? There's probably a toll free number for that. Good luck. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (j0JAA) Fen, from the top rope! Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (jYnPD) 228
Because Democrats run the entire House. Each committee has an odd number of members, of which the majority are Dems. Each Committee has a Dem chairman who sets the agenda, the timeline, witnesses, etc. And Nancy is Queen of it all.
The Democrats have lately taken to even blocking the Republicans from attending hearings and asking questions. Most of them were blocked from attending Volker's hearing yesterday. A minority party Representative has less power than your local deputy constable. Really. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (trdmm) 229
LOL @ NeverTrumpers insisting we not look at the process behind the complaint (lies, crimes, Dem coordination, etc) and focus on the SUBSTANCE of the lies, crimes and Dem coordination.
Posted by: El Kabong at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (datdl) 230
219 Clearly, Trump has to be impeached for making the Democrats WANT to impeach him.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (Boy/L) __ That woman made me so horny I had no choice but to rape her. Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (FiUMj) 231
So you want to talk about men giving other men blowjobs?
>> Now back to Days of our B( . )( . )Bs, please Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (WkmoA) Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (E85B2) 233
Clearly, Trump has to be impeached for making the Democrats WANT to impeach him.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) He was strutting around in that skin tight election. Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (Ti9Td) 234
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (jYnPD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (j0JAA) 235
So you want to talk about men giving other men blowjobs? There's probably a toll free number for that. Good luck.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (j0JAA) Was merely making mock of Schiff. Not sure why you do not want do do the same. However, you did think of it a second time and now a third. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (HALdu) 236
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:17 PM (Jdtn2)
--- At this point, it's almost like somebody could write a Jonah Goldberg reaction generator. Following this rule: Yes, what the Democrats did was bad, but not as bad as X that the Republicans did. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (DuZls) 237
LOL get fucked(this comment is evergreen)
Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (KNsKs) 238
I agree with this assessment. Why would Pence resist releasing the transcript, if what was reported is correct?
Precedent. World leaders don't do that to one another. It's diplomatic courtesy. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (Boy/L) 239
>>2nd question first - because he runs the committee, and it is totally corrupt.
1st question, recusal: recusal is a big joke, there *are* no actual rules to force it on Congressmen or anyone else, but Republicans do it because Democrats and their partners in the MSM screech about it nonstop. - - - I am so tired of no one even trying to enforce the rule on the Dems because it's known they won't follow them. We need to Alinsky#4/apply the broken window enforcement on them -- which is why I'm glad Trump has skipped recusal and gone straight to demanding Schiff resign. Alinsky #4 bitchezzz. Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (bDqIh) 240
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The plot thickens.. But I'm not holding my breath that this will stop this insanity Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2019 04:05 PM (O2RFr) __________ It's painful to contemplate, but the insanity now can only end in one of two ways -- and neither is pretty. Posted by: ShainS at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (WktGK) 241
I agree with this assessment. Why would Pence resist releasing the transcript, if what was reported is correct?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (iuFgi) What are you talking about??? Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (trdmm) 242
What kind of drugs is Goldberg using?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (I2dne) The smell of cash from his keepers. Posted by: WOPR at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (J70i0) 243
A minority party Representative has less power than your local deputy constable. Really.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (trdmm) In a Democrat House Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (E85B2) 244
Don't focus on the process behind the Salem Witch Trials, focus on the substance of the accusations!
Posted by: El Kabong at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (datdl) 245
Remember when you ran away
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LOL @ NeverTrumpers insisting we not look at the process behind the complaint (lies, crimes, Dem coordination, etc) and focus on the SUBSTANCE of the lies, crimes and Dem coordination.
Posted by: El Kabong at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (datdl) --- Especially when the cheap cloth rots in our hands. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (DuZls) 249
Treeeazzzzon
Posted by: Sebi G. at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (Pzzpr) 250
What kind of drugs is Goldberg using?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:27 PM (I2dne) Ovaltine. Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (ujg0T) 251
Beer battered women.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (1ISKN) 252
247 I hear the battered women recipe is quite nice.
Panko? Posted by: free tibet at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (elfAG) Beer. Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (QgqhX) 253
The penalty will be????
DOJ has investigated the complaint and has decided that, although a crime was committed which could lead to significant jail time, we have declined to prosecute. That'll give him what's for. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (dNzKv) Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:31 PM (Boy/L) 255
I was a tween when Watergate came around, and it was the first time in my life when I started to seriously pay attention to the news.
I'm thinking about that as I watch this horseshit, and it sure does make me go back and question what was reported about Watergate back in the day, and the conventional wisdom generated thereby. I absorbed it like a kitten lapping milk. Watergate was a coup achieved by the Democrats. It led to Jimmy Carter, much good that it did them. Nixon should not have resigned. Nixon was deposed. By the Left. After the war, many camps to build. Many huts to fill. Many fields to hoe. And the question staring us in the face: Who builds the camps? Posted by: Monty James at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (Zqz9o) He should have contested his 1960 election too. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (HALdu) Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (QgqhX) 257
FRY THAT MOTHERFUCKER TILL CRISP. SOWING MAJOR DISCORD. EXECUTE AS AN ENEMY.
Posted by: nip at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (Izot6) 258
Just what the F is an Oligarch? That term is thrown around as a pejorative, but what is it?
Is it a Title? Is it a Governmental Position? Is it a Rich Man who has government influence? Like, oh, Bill Gates or Mitt Romney? Or is it just a rich foreigner that we want to make seem Evil? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (NgKpN) In the case of Ukraine, it is a person who uses violence, corruption, and bribes to amass large amounts of wealth and control over industry, like Igor Kolomoisky, whom the obama administration (Biden) helped get off the U.S. visa ban list after he made off with billions in Ukraine aid. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (jYnPD) 259
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (jYnPD)
Sorry, flounder. Jumpy computer. Actually it wouldn't be a toll free number. It would be the gay version of phone sex chat lines. Bored people sitting around getting paid to talk dirty to lonely people. And no, I've never participated in that. I used to volunteer for a crisis phone where people sometimes wanted to do phone sex because it was free. We hung up on them. I'm hanging up on the guy above. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (j0JAA) Posted by: McCABE at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (AQBtr) 261
This thing is collapsing like a wet fart
Posted by: IC at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (A8BF0) 262
This is what the dickless cucks keep clucking about on Twitter in between food flirting and SonnyBunchHasBadTaste jokes;
"Focus on the substance, not the process! Stop looking at the process! Why on earth would you want to know where the allegations for impeachment come from?! Here, look at a picture of my dog!" Posted by: El Kabong at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (datdl) 263
LOL @ NeverTrumpers insisting we not look at the process behind the complaint (lies, crimes, Dem coordination, etc) and focus on the SUBSTANCE of the lies, crimes and Dem coordination.
-- Since the "substance" also pretty much consists of nothing illegal, they're good, right? Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (JoUsr) 264
"Climate Change Gourmet needs your recipe submissions."
Can we do like the last time. Just send them to Bluebell and Weasel. There is some small talk of another cookbook, you know. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice Cannibal Bob is going to be running the show, this time. Posted by: flounder Yay! Hamstring Hash - Serves 4 Take one large hamstring... Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (FE+I8) 265
I seem to have lost my freaking mind
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (d7Ww2) 266
Nixon should not have resigned. Nixon was deposed. By the Left.
He didn't have the votes in the Senate. It was inevitable. What we are seeing right now is very, very evitable, however. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (Boy/L) 267
261 This thing is collapsing like a wet fart
Posted by: IC at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (A8BF0) I beg your pardon Posted by: HASHMARK LLC at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (AQBtr) 268
After the war, many camps to build. Many huts to fill. Many fields to hoe.
And the question staring us in the face: Who builds the camps? Posted by: Monty James lol. you have to take prisoners in order for there to be any. Posted by: x at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (nFwvY) Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (FTlwv) 270
265 I seem to have lost my freaking mind
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (d7Ww2) Where's the last place you remember seeing it? Posted by: Insomniac at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (QgqhX) 271
" I seem to have lost my freaking mind"
It happens. Don't worry. It'll come home, dragging it's tail behind it. Posted by: freaked at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (Tnijr) 272
He'll do time. Just like Kavanaugh's lying accusers. Oh wait, I forgot -- the laws don't apply to Democrat-Communists.
Posted by: All Sock, No Cattle at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (4Eo4+) 273
Precedent. World leaders don't do that to one another. It's diplomatic courtesy.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 04, 2019 04:30 PM (Boy/L) Sean Spicer commented that this has made all future executive diplomatic communications far more difficult because no foreign leader can automatically assume that his conversations with the US President are, and will remain, private! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (E85B2) 274
"Focus on the substance, not the process! Stop
looking at the process! Why on earth would you want to know where the allegations for impeachment come from?! Here, look at a picture of my dog!" Posted by: El Kabong at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (datdl) In their defense, it is a good dog. Posted by: Dan K. at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (jFfSK) Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (d7Ww2) 276
Sorry, flounder. Jumpy computer. Actually it wouldn't be a toll free number. It would be the gay version of phone sex chat lines. Bored people sitting around getting paid to talk dirty to lonely people. And no, I've never participated in that. I used to volunteer for a crisis phone where people sometimes wanted to do phone sex because it was free. We hung up on them. I'm hanging up on the guy above.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (j0JAA) The funny thing is that you saw the comment and you were the sole commentor that responded to it and continue to respond to it. For someone that does not want to consider men giving blowjobs you have failed miserably. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (HALdu) Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (Dh1wo) 278
Donald "Richard Jewell" Trump saved hundreds of lives from a terrorist bomb, but he isn't urbane and refined and therefore we find him guilty of being the bomber.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (ptqGC) 279
Maybe trump was premature with the transcript. Because now they have: The whistle blower doesn't matter because we have the transcript, and it is totally damning. The fact that it isn't damning doesn't matter, because most people have not read it. They take a trusted, even handed newsman like Chuck Todd's word for it, and he says our democracy is officially over because what trump did in that phone call is worse than Hitler and Stalin's baby.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (dNzKv) 280
There's an update to the Federalist article:
UPDATE: An official confirms the whistleblower failed to disclose prior contacts with House Democrats regarding the allegations of his August 12 complaint letter that was addressed to Schiff and Burr. The box in Part 3, Question 1 of the form regarding contacts with Congress or congressional committees was left blank. The dates of those contacts were also not disclosed as required. And the specific members and committees that were contacted were likewise not disclosed in the section requiring that information. Not sure what that adds that's not already in the article but there it is... Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (cF8AT) 281
Just what the F is an Oligarch? That term is thrown around as a pejorative, but what is it?
Is it a Title? Is it a Governmental Position? Is it a Rich Man who has government influence? Like, oh, Bill Gates or Mitt Romney? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (NgKpN) --- The Eurasian equivalent of a Robber Baron, from what I gather. Exactly like Gates. Oligarchy is a sort of tyranny of the "elite". This system exists within the overt structural republican system that Russia represents itself to be. Hey, maybe we should start calling Bezos and the guys at Google "American Oligarchs". Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (DuZls) 282
In the case of Ukraine, it is a person who uses violence, corruption, and bribes to amass large amounts of wealth and control over industry, like Igor Kolomoisky, whom the obama administration (Biden) helped get off the U.S. visa ban list after he made off with billions in Ukraine aid.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:32 PM (jYnPD) So, by that definition? They are democrats? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (NgKpN) 283
I did not know Ana Navarro was a Republican strategist. Posted by: bill in arkansas ====== She was on Team Heb. Does it make sense now? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (w4iPI) 284
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" I seem to have lost my freaking mind" It happens. Don't worry. It'll come home, dragging it's tail behind it. Posted by: freaked at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (Tnijr) Disheveled, head down, reeking of coitus, asking for forgiveness. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (jYnPD) 285
Uh-Oh: Fake "Whistleblower" Lied to IG About His Contacts With Adam Schiff
Not candid, dammit lying is so 70's Posted by: The rule makers at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (AQBtr) 286
Sean Spicer commented that this has made all future executive diplomatic communications far more difficult because no foreign leader can automatically assume that his conversations with the US President are, and will remain, private!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 04, 2019 04:34 PM (E85B2) ++++++++++ One of the goals, I'm sure. Well, maybe not sure - they're all insane - but it will be an outcome. Just like the way they treat Trump's appointees. If they can, they'll derail his nominees and impeach him. If they can't, though, they'll ice him because no one will want to work for him or talk to him on the phone. They keep failing at the primary goal, but they're doing quite well on secondary objectives. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (I2dne) 287
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I seem to have lost my freaking mind Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (d7Ww2) It's always in the last place you can think of. Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (XuBZu) 288
Trump did get the Ukrainian President's okay to release the transcript. I think other leaders realize this was a unique situation and was t something done unilaterally.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (nDdGQ) 289
Well then... maybe we just need to fix the form.
Gabriel Malor I'm sure will tell all of us how legally this is a non-issue since Schiff has said he only directed him to the right place. Totes no "real" contact whatsoever, so Orange Man Bad and you are all Trumptards Posted by: Reality Man at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (xOBRH) 290
I wonder if Romney is "troubled" by any of this....
===== According to 'yahoo news', Romney is the *first* GOP Senator to *admonish* Trump. Who the heck is this arrogant carpetbagging loser? Posted by: mustbequantum at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (MIKMs) 291
Does anyone think Schiff is going to actually allow
witnesses that counter an argument for Impeachment or even are going to present facts? This is why Nancy declared an impeachment inquiry without a vote, so while it's illigitimate, it's still going on no matter how much the republican's protest. The Democrats aren't interested in rule of law, traditions, or House Rules. They own the House, they make the rules, daily. Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:26 PM --- And this is why Trump sent pelosi a letter saying he won't play unless they do it by the book all legal. Brilliant strategy actually. Posted by: Mr. Scott (formerly GWS) at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (JUOKG) 292
Oligarch refers to a member of an oligarchy. As monarchies are run by a monarch, so oligarchies are run by oligarchs. In economics, you have oligopolies, and oligopsonies, as well as monopolies and monopsonies. An oligarchy is a small cabal of the powerful. When they get together and control a market, you have an oligopoly. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (f1Vqw) 293
I've always suspected the corruption was monumental in D.C.
Until Trump, I never realized just how evil it was. Posted by: Biergood at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (yb6r+) 294
Maybe trump was premature with the transcript. Because now they have: The whistle blower doesn't matter because we have the transcript, and it is totally damning. The fact that it isn't damning doesn't matter, because most people have not read it. They take a trusted, even handed newsman like Chuck Todd's word for it, and he says our democracy is officially over because what trump did in that phone call is worse than Hitler and Stalin's baby.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (dNzKv) Wondered the same thing myself, except it does not matter. There is no debate between men of reason it is a bunch of anti-Trump propagandists that are fine ignoring the truth and spinning whatever lies they can. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (HALdu) 295
"Posted by: not so"
Seems thou art concerned thyself. Maybe thoust doest crave the iron sausage? Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (Tnijr) 296
Oh, I see, now the House Democrats say they want transcripts of Pence's discussions with foreign leaders. So basically it's an attempt to subvert the concept of coequal branches. Got it.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (RD7QR) 297
The Schiffnik needs to be shot as a lesson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (x0VyO) 298
The Democrats have lately taken to even blocking the Republicans from attending hearings and asking questions. Most of them were blocked from attending Volker's hearing yesterday. A minority party Representative has less power than your local deputy constable. Really. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:29 PM (trdmm) ---- And the Democrats are failing anyway. They must be so proud. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (gvmfs) 299
Hey, maybe we should start calling Bezos and the guys at Google "American Oligarchs".
Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (DuZls) Oligarch Romney. And yup, throw in a bit of GE who once more paid no Federal Tax last year. And some others. Ewwww, and the folks who onw the Fed Res Bank? Oligarchs? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (NgKpN) 300
Powwow Baby Chow
Posted by: Liz at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (DuZls) 301
Back when the TV studios would plan out their programming for a year, they would have schedules and all that stuff, stars and shows..Gabe Kaplan. Well, we have something similar here, the TV studios are again planning out their season's offerings to be able to hit projected revenue goals. They have the idiot Dems helping them out with their programming. Like fuckin clockwork. Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (lg/F7) 302
Some people did something.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (Y4EXg) 303
FenelonSpoke, I am so glad and relieved to see you back and in form! Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (w4iPI) Posted by: Chris M at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (eAZVt) 305
280 There's an update to the Federalist article:
UPDATE: An official confirms the whistleblower failed to disclose prior contacts with House Democrats regarding the allegations of his August 12 complaint letter that was addressed to Schiff and Burr. The box in Part 3, Question 1 of the form regarding contacts with Congress or congressional committees was left blank. The dates of those contacts were also not disclosed as required. And the specific members and committees that were contacted were likewise not disclosed in the section requiring that information. Not sure what that adds that's not already in the article but there it is... Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (cF8AT) The original article was based just on a Fox News report. So the update is just a verification that the report is accurate. Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (Z7lwY) 306
Hey, maybe we should start calling Bezos and the guys at Google "American Oligarchs".
Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (DuZls) They are, absolutely. In Classical Greek history, where we derive most of our descriptions of forms of government, the best known Oligarchy was known as the rule of "The Thirty Tyrants". Eventually there was a revolution and most of them were killed. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (trdmm) 307
Team HEB?? The Astros??
Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (Dh1wo) 308
The cia has, coincidentally, just now changed its rules retroactively to Aug 11 to say that you don't have to disclose prior contacts.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:40 PM (dNzKv) 309
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (RD7QR)
Pence needs to tell them to shove it-in a much more polite way, of course. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:40 PM (j0JAA) 310
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (w4iPI)
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The Schiffnik needs to be shot as a lesson. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (x0VyO) Pelosi should give him the Beria treatment for having outlived his usefulness. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:40 PM (jYnPD) 312
An oligarchy is a small cabal of the powerful. When they get together and control a market, you have an oligopoly.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (f1Vqw) So, the owners of the Banks, who hold all the Stock of the Federal Reserve Bank. Or the US Tech Elite? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (NgKpN) 313
The original article was based just on a Fox News report. So the update is just a verification that the report is accurate.
Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (Z7lwY) Ah ok. Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (cF8AT) 314
The Cobs are Oligarchs without the money,
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (nDdGQ) 315
Maybe trump was premature with the transcript. Because now they have:
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:35 PM (dNzKv) --- I disagree. And I think that's illustrated on how the mass collusion has shifted to saying that the transcript is not all there and things were taken out. Trump looks above board by releasing the whole transcript if there is any question. The coup has to attack that narrative. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (DuZls) 316
Fen - I'm still laughing at the "rope of boobs" crack you made earlier. So vivid and disgusting. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (AzW6q) 317
Oh, look. Trump was "threatened with impeachment" all week and the market drops and media operatives start making "Recession!11" noises. Then we find out the "whistle-blower" was a plant and a fraud... and the market rebounds. (ponders) Why, it's almost as if the DemonRats consider making millions of Americans poorer as a separate goal of theirs.
Posted by: Adorably Deplorable Delayna at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (KNFU5) 318
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (w4iPI)
Sorry. Jumpy computer. Thanks, dear. I am feeling much stronger which I attribute to God's grace and the prayers. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (j0JAA) 319
Not sure what that adds that's not already in the article but there it is...
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 04, 2019 04:36 PM (cF8AT) -------- Only thing I think it adds is confirmation from a member of congress who sits on a intelligence committee. Posted by: WisRich at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (G0vdT) 320
313 The original article was based just on a Fox News report. So the update is just a verification that the report is accurate. Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (Z7lwY) Ah ok. Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (cF8AT) That's my interpretation of it at least. Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (Z7lwY) 321
296 Oh, I see, now the House Democrats say they want transcripts of Pence's discussions with foreign leaders. So basically it's an attempt to subvert the concept of coequal branches. Got it.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (RD7QR) And he will say "No", because they don't have the right to see those, and they will say "HA! Obstruction! We Will Impeach you too and make Nancy President!!!" That's the game. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (trdmm) 322
"Posted by: not so"
Seems thou art concerned thyself. Maybe thoust doest crave the iron sausage? Posted by: M. O'loch at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (Tnijr) Sadly, no, merely unsure why someone wants to go out of their way to start something over making mock of Adam Schiff's appearance which is frequently done here. They could have ignored the comment but decided to respond to it and start something. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (HALdu) 323
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In this case, Pompeo got permission from the Ukraine prez to release the details of the conversation. Had Trump not asked for it, or had the Ukraine refused it, I doubt the conversation would have been released. Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (XuBZu) 324
So, Washington profiteers moved in and told Ukraine just how they were going to have to play the game to get people in Washington rich in exchange for a modicum of protection. I would be that much surprised if the reputation of "rampant corruption" in Ukraine isn't part of just reflection on Washington's participation in it + Russion-ish oligarchs. There seems to be this feeling of a coverup that the Dems practically ran Ukraine and squeezed them whenever they were short on cash. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (DuZls) The vast majority of discretionary US government spending is straight up graft. This is especially so when it comes to foreign aid to barely functioning countries where concepts such as "rule of law" have not yet taken hold. It is money laundering. Posted by: fktheleft at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (I54dk) 325
307 Team HEB?? The Astros??
Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:39 PM (Dh1wo) In Spanish, that's "!Jeb!" Or Jeb Arbusto (pronounced "Hayb Ar-BOOS-toe") Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (ujg0T) 326
>>An oligarchy is a small cabal of the powerful. When they get together and control a market, you have an oligopoly.
In the case of both Ukraine and Russia, oligarchs are also people with strong political power and/or connections. Pretty much all of them got rich by being connected to corrupt government and they return the favor with payoff. Putin is thought by many to be the richest man in the world. He didn't get there on his KGB salary. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (ZLI7S) 327
Just what the F is an Oligarch? That term is thrown around as a pejorative, but what is it?
Is it a Title? Is it a Governmental Position? Is it a Rich Man who has government influence? Like, oh, Bill Gates or Mitt Romney? Or is it just a rich foreigner that we want to make seem Evil? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:28 PM (NgKpN) An Oligarch is a member of an Oligarchy, which is a system where a handful of wealthy individuals or families run the government for their benefit, using the law as a weapon to smother all competition and give them special perks. The economics of fascism, the modern Chinese system, and the modern Left could be said to be a form of curated oligopoly (oligarchic monopoly), where the entire economy is basically run by a handful of chosen winners in each industry, all of whom are Party loyalists. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (J+mig) 328
Pelosi should give him the Beria treatment for having outlived his usefulness.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 04, 2019 04:40 PM (jYnPD) +++++++++++ The "Full Beria" is hard to accomplish. They not only offed him, they purged him from the record. To known subscribers of the Soviet encyclopedia, they mailed out a razor, a piece of transparent tape and an entry about "Bering Strait" - and instructions to excise the prior entry on Beria and tape in the replacement. Schiff is not worthy of the Full Beria. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (I2dne) 329
From The Hill, 27 Sep 2019:
Vice President Pence urged President Trump not to release a memo detailing his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky this week amid a scandal over Trump's efforts to persuade the Ukrainian leader to direct an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden. The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Pence fell in line and ultimately supported the report's public release, but privately counseled Trump against the matter when it was first raised. The White House eventually released the rough transcript, according to the Journal, because Trump felt that Republicans were losing the messaging battle in the press. - The Hill Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (iuFgi) 330
Totes no "real" contact whatsoever, so Orange Man Bad and you are all Trumptards
Posted by: Reality Man at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (xOBRH) I'm sure there is a technicality somewhere. Only talked to a staffer, only spoke in general terms, some bs the DOJ will decline to prosecute. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (dNzKv) 331
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (AzW6q)Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (AzW6q)
Glad you enjoyed it. That was one of my acerbic moments. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (j0JAA) 332
He had no intent to lie therefor he is sacrosanct and all of his lie..accusations must be taken seriously.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (pw+jk) 333
None of this means a damn thing until some people start going to FMPITA prison.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (T8A10) 334
That's my interpretation of it at least.
Posted by: buzzion at October 04, 2019 04:41 PM (Z7lwY) I guess that's got to be it. Although, I would have thought that the IG's testimony to that fact would be confirmation. Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (cF8AT) 335
LOLWUT? How are the Republicans* and "conservative media" behaving badly? -------- In context, Fatty McGee was talking about those defend Trump's indefensible behavior, insofar as he is requesting aid from foreign countries to investigate the coup. This is borderline treason. Certainly impeachable. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (AzW6q) 336
#LOLGF
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (GKlaO) 337
I've always suspected the corruption was monumental in D.C. Until Trump, I never realized just how evil it was. Posted by: Biergood ====== Dig it, I would never have believed the stuff we've found out about Hillary unless it had come bubbling up from the swamp. If I'd heard that she was using her office as SecState to personally enrich herself by extorting foreign leaders and businesses, all the while hiding her dirty dealings in a secret communication channel that was actually 100% readable to US enemies, I would have said This is the sort of thing that makes us look like lunatics, now stop this raving and solve some real problems. I never believed a word Hillary said and considered her utterly cynical and corrupt, but I never dreamed she was total banana republic on us. I was clenched up over the idea of her becoming president the moment she announced, but I was nowhere close to imagining how dire the choice was. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (w4iPI) 338
Pretty much all of them got rich by being connected to corrupt government and they return the favor with payoff. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (ZLI7S) So, then Clintons, and most of Congress. And Biden. Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:44 PM (NgKpN) 339
Fuck this shit!
Posted by: MAGA at October 04, 2019 04:45 PM (xY9/5) 340
And this is why Trump sent pelosi a letter saying he won't play unless they do it by the book all legal.
Brilliant strategy actually. Posted by: Mr. Scott (formerly GWS) at October 04, 2019 04:37 PM (JUOKG) And to be fair, I heard about the irregularity of Nancy's declaration first from Mark Levin. He said early this week that what the Democrats were doing was counter to almost three centuries of Congressional rules. Impeachment should be difficult, as you should not be able to do what the Dems are doing on a daily basis to the President. He said he hoped the president's lawyers and the Republicans were listening to him. Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (7f3YP) 341
Nancy Pelosi apparently decided that least bad solution to her dilemma was to not schedule a vote to convene an impeachment inquiry (so there in fact isn't one at this time) and allow scheduling of a series of cheesy public relations stunts that are falsely labeled an impeachment inquiry. And the Democrats still look like idiots. This non-process resembles impeachment closely enough to cause the damage Pelosi had feared. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (gvmfs) 342
I'm caught between the idea that the left are Marxists who would sell us out to at-least-they're-Marxist China and the left are American oligarchs as their power base with ideological-stimulated dupes for the remainder.
Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (DuZls) 343
The Democrats could have a baby bbq and nothing about it would trouble Mitt Romney.
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (n1yOz) 344
Yes, the Big Tech barons could be called oligarchs. And what they run is indeed an oligopoly at best, if not an outright monopoly. The US Deep State has a lot in common with an oligarchy. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (f1Vqw) 345
These people are an embarrassment to honest crooks.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (oVJmc) 346
I used to volunteer for a crisis phone where people sometimes wanted to do phone sex because it was free. We hung up on them.
See, here is the difference between an experienced sermon-writer and some guy swinging for the fences, and missing. You got one guy thinking as dirty as he can manage, and Fen tells one little clean joke that leaves him hanging, with one hand busy IYGWIM. And now we all want to hear Fen's phone scripts.b Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (8ZmvG) 347
The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Pence fell in line and ultimately supported the report's public release, but privately counseled Trump against the matter when it was first raised"
Not surprised - Pence was advising what was the conventional wisdom of every politician on both sides, and given his background I would expect him to be cautious and conventional. Conversations with foreign leaders are to be kept private, no one ever broke that rule. But this was the response that Schiff was counting on. Schiff could not imagine the thinking of someone like Donald Trump, who can throw all conventional wisdom and conventional advice out the window - and be Absolutely Right. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (trdmm) 348
Doll Eyes Alex will probably die from a terrible garbage disposal accident.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (x0VyO) 349
Goldberg has been equivocating since he began his pundit career. That's why i never liked him even when he was getting praise for Liberal fascism, The worst kind of condescension Passive aggressive condescension.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (nDdGQ) 350
And a hegemon is a Jamaican gardener!
Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:48 PM (Dh1wo) 351
342 I'm caught between the idea that the left are Marxists who would sell us out to at-least-they're-Marxist China and the left are American oligarchs as their power base with ideological-stimulated dupes for the remainder.
Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (DuZls) Split the difference. Note what I said about the "curated oligopoly" above. It looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and goosesteps like a fucking pro. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 04, 2019 04:48 PM (J+mig) 352
I've always suspected the corruption was monumental in D.C.
Until Trump, I never realized just how evil it was. Posted by: Biergood ------ Similarly, I've known that we have a serious cuck problem in the GOP since 2014. I never imagined that the entire Party was controlled opposition until Trump came along. Disgusting. Sad! Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:48 PM (AzW6q) 353
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October
----------------- Do you know the difference between a Busch Stadium hot dog and a Wrigley Field hot dog? Posted by: olddog in mo at October 04, 2019 04:48 PM (Dhht7) 354
Pretty much all of them got rich by being connected to corrupt government and they return the favor with payoff.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (ZLI7S) --- It's profit by controlling narrative and message, without the hard entrepreneurial stuff like coming up with an idea. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:48 PM (DuZls) 355
I don't think we should weaponize this apparent perjury and the fact that this so-called whistleblower may be a criminal should not inform our view of what he claims is true about Trump.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (NVYyb) 356
Fuck this shit!
Posted by: MAGA at October 04, 2019 04:45 PM (xY9/5) Famous revolutionary slogans: Liberté, égalité, fraternité Join or Die. Fuck this Shit! Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (z79tQ) 357
The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Pence fell in line and ultimately supported the report's public release, but privately counseled Trump against the matter when it was first raised. The White House eventually released the rough transcript, according to the Journal, because Trump felt that Republicans were losing the messaging battle in the press. - The Hill
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2019 04:42 PM (iuFgi) I'm sure VP Pence told the WSJ the above. The WSJ is barely behind the NYT in "sources said" garbage. Notice the words, "rough transcript" as if what Trump releases REALLY isn't all of what was said. This entire copy , IMO, is made up BS by the WSJ. Posted by: Jen the original at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (7f3YP) 358
I seem to have lost my freaking mind
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2019 04:33 PM (d7Ww2) .......... While you're looking, keep an eye out for our car keys. Posted by: FBI at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (v0R5T) 359
An Oligarch is a member of an Oligarchy, which is a system where a handful of wealthy individuals or families run the government for their benefit, using the law as a weapon to smother all competition and give them special perks.
The economics of fascism, the modern Chinese system, and the modern Left could be said to be a form of curated oligopoly (oligarchic monopoly), where the entire economy is basically run by a handful of chosen winners in each industry, all of whom are Party loyalists. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est Sort of like here, then..... Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (FTlwv) 360
"Oligarch."
See, before the Really Big War, the governments were divided into theStan Garchs and the Oli Garchs... Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (8ZmvG) 361
Doll Eyes Alex will probably die from a terrible garbage disposal accident.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (x0VyO) The dangle of the bangles, her neck it shall strangle. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (jEgzt) 362
But this was the response that Schiff was counting on. Schiff could not imagine the thinking of someone like Donald Trump, who can throw all conventional wisdom and conventional advice out the window - and be Absolutely Right.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (trdmm) Agreed. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are in the midst of greatness in the form of DJT. Savor every day we have this man. We won't soon see his like again. Unfortunately. Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (iuFgi) 363
Yes, the Big Tech barons could be called oligarchs. And what they run is indeed an oligopoly at best, if not an outright monopoly.
The US Deep State has a lot in common with an oligarchy. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 04, 2019 04:46 PM (f1Vqw) Yup, which is my point. We only call Eastern Europeans from former Communist nations, Oligarchs. When by definition, we are dong the same thing. So, who gets to decide who is an Oligarch or not? Is there a ceremony? A Certificate of oligarchiness? Because I see that negative term thrown around daily by the Press, but do THEY even really know what it is? or means? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (NgKpN) Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (gmo/4) 365
Oh, I see, now the House Democrats say they want transcripts of Pence's discussions with foreign leaders. So basically it's an attempt to subvert the concept of coequal branches. Got it. Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:38 PM (RD7QR) And he will say "No", because they don't have the right to see those, and they will say "HA! Obstruction! We Will Impeach you too and make Nancy President!!!" That's the game. Posted by: Tom Servo ====== There are already rumblings of impeaching Pompeo and Barr. They're obsessive-compulsives at this point. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (w4iPI) Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (Dh1wo) 367
and yet, not a peep about any of this shit on the "news." and, there never will be.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (KP5rU) 368
It's almost as if they are compelled to lie. Like its a duty that carries honor or something.
Posted by: bane at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (ransv) 369
So, who gets to decide who is an Oligarch or not? Is there a ceremony? A Certificate of oligarchiness?
Because I see that negative term thrown around daily by the Press, but do THEY even really know what it is? or means? Posted by: Don Q at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (NgKpN) ++++++++++++ The same people who decide which apply, and to whom they apply. Thus, they will never call themselves, their allies or their masters such a word. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (I2dne) 370
The last time I checked, a whistle blower form was an official government document, so filing a false claim on such a form is also a federal felony. Just a little reminder for all the turds in the bureaucracy thinking about filing some bs whistle blower complaint about President Trump.
Posted by: It's the seriousness of the charge at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (OSaNz) 371
355 I don't think we should weaponize this apparent perjury and the fact that this so-called whistleblower may be a criminal should not inform our view of what he claims is true about Trump.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 04, 2019 04:49 PM (NVYyb) Sadly, this is what their argument boils down to: "Don't let the insanely unconstitutional actions of Trump's opponents blind you to the fact that Orangemanbad!" Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (RD7QR) 372
346 I used to volunteer for a crisis phone where people sometimes wanted to do phone sex because it was free. We hung up on them."
From Red Dwarf: Lister to Rimmer: "your communication skills are so terrible, when you worked at a suicide hotline all 12 people who talked to you killed themselves!" Rimmer: "That''s not fair, they were already suicidal." Lister: "But one of 'em was a wrong number!!!" Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (trdmm) 373
Schiff is not worthy of the Full Beria.
How about a Beria enema then?? Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (Dh1wo) ++++++++++ Make it barium and we'll talk. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (I2dne) 374
"rough" transcript
Posted by: andycanuck at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (Dh1wo) 375
And this will just keep getting worse was we get closer to the election and no one is put in handcuffs.
I really want to skip 2020. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2019 04:52 PM (xfb67) 376
Dem and establishment. Until he*s up on charges, just to assume he*ll be allowed to correct the record. Thank me later for the time you saved.
Posted by: Clay ** Have you told a commie to fcuk off today? Ask me for a list of local DNC offices at October 04, 2019 04:52 PM (M2urV) 377
There are already rumblings of impeaching Pompeo and Barr. They're obsessive-compulsives at this point.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:50 PM (w4iPI) --- You thought "Impeach 45" was about the number of the president, eh? Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:52 PM (DuZls) 378
Rastros.
Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:53 PM (Ti9Td) 379
I used to volunteer for a crisis phone where people sometimes wanted to do phone sex because it was free. We hung up on them.
See, here is the difference between an experienced sermon-writer and some guy swinging for the fences, and missing. You got one guy thinking as dirty as he can manage, and Fen tells one little clean joke that leaves him hanging, with one hand busy IYGWIM. And now we all want to hear Fen's phone scripts.b Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 04, 2019 04:47 PM (8ZmvG) maybe but then you have to wonder, how this relates to the phone volunteering? You know nothing of the caller awaiting you when you answer the phone at a hotline, however, you know exactly what you are responding to when you read, copy, paste, and reply to a comment. Hanging up when you receive an unwanted dirty call is one thing Responding to a comment net even addressed to you is more like deciding to ring the caller back and discuss his original call. Not sure the hotline analogy holds here. Was the comment about Schiff that far off the mark for the HQ? Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:53 PM (HALdu) 380
Similarly, I've known that we have a serious cuck problem in the GOP since 2014.
I never imagined that the entire Party was controlled opposition until Trump came along. Disgusting. Sad! Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:48 PM (AzW6q) I've known it since 1988. The repuglicans are pussies who are apologetic about winning. Donald Trump might be a crass bastard, but as Abraham Lincoln once said about U. S. Grant, we need this man. He fights. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 04, 2019 04:53 PM (T8A10) 381
Please read my passionate defense of *spins dial* perjury!
Posted by: The Rev. Colonel David French, A Xantastic Guy! at October 04, 2019 04:53 PM (NVYyb) 382
When are we going to get to the Scooby-Doo moment when the WB is finally caught and tied up - and the mask is pulled away to reveal Schiff, whose mask is then pulled away to reveal Hillary.
"I would have gotten away with it, too if hadn't been for that meddlesome Trump!" Posted by: Boswell at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (32YRo) 383
The last time I checked, a whistle blower form was an official government document, so filing a false claim on such a form is also a federal felony.
Posted by: It's the seriousness of the charge at October 04, 2019 04:51 PM (OSaNz) --- No (swamp) prosecutor would prosecute! Posted by: Swamp Director at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (DuZls) Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (nDdGQ) 385
I don't believe this guy is employed by the government any longer. He filed his complaint and the Democrats say on it until it was needed in a and emergency to justify their fake impeachment investigation. If this information is being released it probably came from IG non public testimony before Congress and is being leaked by members of the investigating committee. It is also possible that it came from the a CIA source since I got to believe that most of the people in that Agency are not communists.
Posted by: Punchinello at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (zOrpp) 386
This is sedition, straight up.
Posted by: Iblis at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (Iqm4L) 387
This fake WB is turning out like the last scene of Animal House, with Trump airing the Death Mobile directly at Nancy Pelosi, the MFM screaming lies like Kevin Bacon and Shciff as the pervert and sadist Neidermeyer everyone hates and no one trusts and who gets squashed.
This is going to be great! Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (Ed8Zd) 388
384 Schiff is not worthy of the Full Beria. ----
It ain't over until Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (nDdGQ) ...the shot to the base of the skull. Just completing that thought. Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (RD7QR) 389
The disheveled turd Goldberg, regarding the dishonesty and scheming of the whistleblower... you see, none of that matters:
"At some point, we need to hear directly from the whistleblower. But the inconvenient fact is that most of the allegations in the report have already been corroborated." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (Jdtn2) 390
"I've written the following original jingle for my soon-to-be released newsletter tentatively entitled 'You can do more than Schiff in the Cuckshed:"
I've looked at clowns from both sides now From up and down and still somehow It's clowns' illusions I recall I really don't know clowns at all" -- Jonah "Mitchell" Goldberg Posted by: ShainS at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (WktGK) Posted by: Mittoff Rommel at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (UFLLM) 392
Of course, because afraid. I'm only surprised he didn't hide behind the curtains, IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (LxqES) 393
Was thinking about the Red Dwarf the other day. Was wondering if it was a goofy, interesting, clever show or if it was just different than what was available.
I would like to know since I think I watched the entire series. Have the theme song memorized. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (HALdu) 394
But the inconvenient fact is that most of the allegations in the report have already been corroborated."
Did he say what was corroborated? Of course not. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (nDdGQ) 395
It is also possible that it came from the a CIA source since I got to believe that most of the people in that Agency are not communists.
Posted by: Punchinello at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (zOrpp) Your beliefs and reality may not line up exactly. Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (z79tQ) 396
I did NOT have relations with that Congressman ... Adam Shifty!
Posted by: Bill 'Whistle Blowee' Clinton at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (LPnfS) 397
It's been said a couple times, but worth a repeat - Dems are saying that there must be parts missing because Trump said it was a 30 minute conversation, and when they have people read it, it only takes about 11 minutes.
What they've ignored is that Trump was speaking English, Zelensky Russian, and after every sentence there would have been a pause while the translators relayed the message, and then that sentence would have been repeated in the appropriate language. It's also why there is not a word for word transcript of the actual conversation - half of it would have to be in Russian. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (trdmm) 398
Democrats are about to rediscover the sanctity of the Grand Jury.
Posted by: NeoOtter at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (0x00j) 399
The cucks and the conservative intelligentsia were and oligarchy controlling the Republican Party. Trump and the base are in the process of smashing it. Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, et al are Cuck Oligarchs. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (f1Vqw) 400
Was thinking about the Red Dwarf the other day. Was wondering if it was a goofy, interesting, clever show or if it was just different than what was available.
I would like to know since I think I watched the entire series. Have the theme song memorized. Posted by: not so I think it was just a hallucination. Posted by: eleven at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (Ti9Td) 401
Schiff is Rimmer and Trump is the cat
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 04:57 PM (x0VyO) 402
It ain't over until
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (nDdGQ) ...the shot to the base of the skull. Just completing that thought. Uh, I was thinking *the fat lady sings*. But yours works too. Posted by: John Cougar Mellonhead at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (9P7y4) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (w4iPI) 404
But the inconvenient fact is that most of the allegations in the report have already been corroborated."
Did he say what was corroborated? Of course not. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (nDdGQ) 1). There was a phone call. That is about all that the spy got right in the report. Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (Ed8Zd) 405
Headline on newsfeed from WSJ-
Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Indicate. WTF? Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (wiXsO) 406
You gotta hand it to the lefties. They've so moved the Overton Window that we no longer get shocked or outraged by their treasonous abuse of the intelligence services. We're just glad they're not eating babies.
Posted by: Ted K. at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (FJYfm) 407
I never imagined that the entire Party was controlled opposition until Trump came along. Disgusting. Sad!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice Yes, this is the part that shocked me the most. I feel like an idiot now, looking back only a few years ago. For example, I used to like Jonah Goldberg. I can't believe I used to think he was actually a conservative. Recently, I've come to feel like a Theodon, released from the evil magic spell of Wormtongue, with my eyes wide open. Posted by: Biergood at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (yb6r+) 408
Did he say what was corroborated? Of course not. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (nDdGQ) ------- That Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens, and the DNC Server, and that he asked him to work with Giuliani and Barr to do so. You see, all that stuff is toes impeachable, bruh. If you can't see that - you're a tribalist. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (AzW6q) 409
Warren Campaign getting a bit rapey.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (dNzKv) 410
This is sedition, straight up.
Posted by: Iblis -------- If the media had been doing straight-up reporting for the last three years, the Democrat Party would be nothing but a footnote in history, referencing the many who were imprisoned. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (LxqES) 411
We really need to keep committee chairmen from acting like portions of the bureaucracy are their little fiefdoms to rule over.
We have now revealed a threat to the separation of powers. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (DuZls) 412
You gotta hand it to the lefties. They've so moved the Overton Window that we no longer get shocked or outraged by their treasonous abuse of the intelligence services. We're just glad they're not eating babies.
Posted by: Ted K. at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (FJYfm) +++++++++++++ I disagree. It isn't exactly shock or outrage anymore, but it is instead those things' more dangerous cousin. It is now, for me anyway, cold anger. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (I2dne) 413
No reasonable prosecutor would bring charges for something like this.
Posted by: The prosecutor of Mike Flynn at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (87EdW) 414
Was thinking about the Red Dwarf the other day. Was
wondering if it was a goofy, interesting, clever show or if it was just different than what was available. I would like to know since I think I watched the entire series. Have the theme song memorized. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (HALdu) Try "The Young Ones" Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (gmo/4) 415
wasn't there a new "Red dwarf" that was horribly bad? Seems like I saw a few minutes of it.
Posted by: freaked at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (Tnijr) 416
393 Was thinking about the Red Dwarf the other day. Was wondering if it was a goofy, interesting, clever show or if it was just different than what was available.
I would like to know since I think I watched the entire series. Have the theme song memorized. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (HAL Red Dwarf was the funniest Sci-Fi I have ever seen. Almost all of the episodes are good, and the best ones like Polymorph can still make me laugh til I cry. (Backwards is another all time great - do you think it would be fun to see time go backwards? Wait until Cat goes into the bushes to take a dump!) Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (trdmm) 417
I'm sure Schiff knows a thing or two about rimming. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 04, 2019 05:00 PM (f1Vqw) 418
They assure us the campaigns organizing director did not sexually assault anyone. Which means he totally sexually assaulted someone.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 05:00 PM (dNzKv) 419
Why does Adam Schiff always look like some kind of alien or strychnine-addled cultist? Dude is a freak.
Posted by: Fritz at October 04, 2019 05:00 PM (kLDv+) 420
I don't believe this guy is employed by the government any longer. He filed his complaint and the Democrats say on it until it was needed in a and emergency to justify their fake impeachment investigation. If this information is being released it probably came from IG non public testimony before Congress and is being leaked by members of the investigating committee. It is also possible that it came from the a CIA source since I got to believe that most of the people in that Agency are not communists.
Posted by: Punchinello at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (zOrpp) I saw somewhere this morning he - the spy/fake WB, was formerly Obama regime on Ukraine but was fired or forced out last year and now he is disgruntled. Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2019 05:01 PM (Ed8Zd) 421
It ain't over until
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (nDdGQ) We say it's over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Bailey? Posted by: Future Senator and all around great guy at October 04, 2019 05:01 PM (z79tQ) 422
The Young Ones kicked Red Dwarf's ass.
Posted by: Vyvyan at October 04, 2019 05:01 PM (Tnijr) 423
I have heard there is a new Red Dwarf.
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 05:01 PM (HALdu) 424
You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see Schiff's eyes spontaneously abort.
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 04, 2019 05:02 PM (n1yOz) 425
What's Greta's Hot Take on this? Her wisdom shall guide us!
Posted by: Mittoff Rommel at October 04, 2019 04:56 PM (UFLLM) --- HOW DARE YOU! Posted by: Greta! at October 04, 2019 05:02 PM (DuZls) 426
405 Headline on newsfeed from WSJ-
Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Indicate. WTF? Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2019 04:58 PM (wiXsO) ------- Oh lordie, hasn't this already been debunked. The last text said in no way was this a quid quo pro. They're being deliberately misleading. Posted by: WisRich at October 04, 2019 05:02 PM (G0vdT) 427
409 Warren Campaign getting a bit rapey.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 04:59 PM (dNzKv) See, I told you Lizzy was secretly a superfreak. Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (RD7QR) Posted by: Punchinello at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (zOrpp) 429
It ain't over until
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 04, 2019 04:54 PM (nDdGQ) ...the shot to the base of the skull. Just completing that thought. Correction, meant *its over*. But again, your works. ;-) Posted by: John Cougar Mellonhead at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (9P7y4) 430
pearl bailey was bombed? i knew there was something wrong with her.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (KP5rU) 431
This whistle blower deserves zero protection and should be prosecuted for making a false statement. Attempting a coupe ought to get you into some legal trouble after all shouldn't it?
Go Trump MAGA! Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (YHOiq) 432
They're being deliberately misleading.
Posted by: WisRich at October 04, 2019 05:02 PM (G0vdT) --- This group will continue doing the nose and the hat until they've burned a woman for weighing as much as a duck. Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (DuZls) 433
Tried watching Red Dwarf. 'Twas all kinds of awful.
Young Ones was so terrible that it was awesome. Do like The IT Crowd though. Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (xPJvm) 434
This is sedition, straight up.
Posted by: Iblis ---------------- I'm struck by the fact that what used to produce a flaming skull, is now just an everyday occurrence. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (LxqES) 435
This whistle blower deserves zero protection and should be prosecuted for making a false statement. Attempting a coupe ought to get you into some legal trouble after all shouldn't it?
Go Trump MAGA! Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (YHOiq) +++++++++++ We must protect whistleblowers or others won't expose corruption for fear of retaliation. We can't have people refusing to come forward simply because they're making shit up... Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (I2dne) 436
Romney's job in 2012 was to lose gracefully. He lost. Mission accomplished.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (dNzKv) 437
You know as infuriating as the coup attempt is I would feel better if the traitors were demonstrating more competence.
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (HALdu) Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (x0VyO) 439
420 I don't believe this guy is employed by the government any longer. He filed his complaint and the Democrats say on it until it was needed in a and emergency to justify their fake impeachment investigation. If this information is being released it probably came from IG non public testimony before Congress and is being leaked by members of the investigating committee. It is also possible that it came from the a CIA source since I got to believe that most of the people in that Agency are not communists.
Posted by: Punchinello at October 04, 2019 04:55 PM (zOrpp) I saw somewhere this morning he - the spy/fake WB, was formerly Obama regime on Ukraine but was fired or forced out last year and now he is disgruntled. Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2019 05:01 PM (Ed8Zd) People keep losing their gruntle. We need a National Gruntle Hotline or something. Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 04, 2019 05:05 PM (RD7QR) 440
I missed the thread that Romney and Kasich are going to try to primary Trump. So if those two slapdick MF'ers try this and are here in California, would it be ok to start a riot at their rally? Maybe assault their supporters and take out some antifa a holes if they're there too? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: JROD at October 04, 2019 05:05 PM (WU8si) 441
earl bailey was bombed? i knew there was something wrong with her.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (KP5rU) Well, technically she was pounded, but if I say that Dolly would kill me. Posted by: Porter Wagoneer at October 04, 2019 05:05 PM (z79tQ) 442
This whistle blower deserves zero protection and should be prosecuted for making a false statement. Attempting a coupe ought to get you into some legal trouble after all shouldn't it?
Go Trump MAGA! Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at October 04, 2019 05:03 PM (YHOiq) The problem is the whistleblower is essentially beyond prosecution, because he isn't swearing to anything falsifiable. He's swearing to what he heard someone else said. This is one of the main reasons they never allowed second hand info before. Not only is it less reliable, it's open to abuse. Like, this, for instance. Posted by: Ted K. at October 04, 2019 05:06 PM (FJYfm) 443
Currently I am both plussed and gruntled. Been a nice, productive day.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 04, 2019 05:06 PM (xPJvm) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 04, 2019 05:06 PM (LxqES) 445
1000 rounds of 5.56mm happiness just plopped onto the front porch by UPS.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2019 05:06 PM (n7LuX) 446
Tried watching Red Dwarf. 'Twas all kinds of awful.
Young Ones was so terrible that it was awesome. Do like The IT Crowd though. Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (xPJvm) That is why I was wondering if it was good or I just happened upon it at t time that I would find it to be good. There are lots of shows like that. As a rule, never go back and watch the shows you liked as a kid, until you are in you 80s. Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 05:07 PM (HALdu) 447
earl bailey. Heh he heh.
nttatwwt Posted by: Porter Wagoneer at October 04, 2019 05:07 PM (z79tQ) 448
since I got to believe that most of the people in that Agency are not communists.
Posted by: Punchinello That would assume facts not in evidence. Posted by: Jean at October 04, 2019 05:07 PM (yIJFm) 449
I've been ruminating on this Constitutional amendment idea: if the Speaker of the House of Representatives is third in line for succession make the position elective via the Electoral college nationwide.
The parties still run the House with the Speaker directing the parliamentary process nuts and bolts absent much of the partisan bullshchtick. Posted by: NeoOtter at October 04, 2019 05:08 PM (0x00j) 450
nood, Kavanaugh book tanks
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2019 05:08 PM (d7Ww2) 451
55gr or 62gr?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 05:08 PM (x0VyO) 452
"He attested -- under pain of penalty -- that there were not other contacts he had made about his complaint"
Too bad there is no penalty for demonrat lying - it's assumed to be in a good cause. Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 04, 2019 05:08 PM (wscsn) 453
1000 rounds of 5.56mm happiness just plopped onto the front porch by UPS.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2019 05:06 PM (n7LuX) USA Today says that's about enough for 1.38 seconds in an AR-15. .85 seconds if you have a bump stock. Posted by: clutch cargo at October 04, 2019 05:09 PM (Z1ykJ) 454
Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, et al are Cuck Oligarchs.
Posted by: publius No. They don't have control over dick. Their functionaries at best, courtesans at worst. Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2019 05:09 PM (1Vobx) 455
451 55gr or 62gr?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2019 05:08 PM (x0VyO) ----- Bulk 55gr for plinking. Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2019 05:09 PM (n7LuX) 456
453 1000 rounds of 5.56mm happiness just plopped onto the front porch by UPS.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2019 05:06 PM (n7LuX) USA Today says that's about enough for 1.38 seconds in an AR-15. .85 seconds if you have a bump stock. Posted by: clutch cargo at October 04, 2019 05:09 PM (Z1ykJ) ------ And the thing that goes up. Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2019 05:10 PM (MVjcR) 457
nood !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 04, 2019 05:11 PM (wscsn) 458
Young Ones was so terrible that it was awesome.
Do like The IT Crowd though. Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 04, 2019 05:04 PM (xPJvm) I simply adored the Young Ones. It was too brilliant, but I guess the timing was a perfect parallel to my life at the time. I still quote to this day. Rik: It's a hippy, isn't it Neil? Posted by: clutch cargo at October 04, 2019 05:11 PM (Z1ykJ) 459
There are lots of shows like that. As a rule, never go back and watch the shows you liked as a kid, until you are in you 80s.
Posted by: not so at October 04, 2019 05:07 PM (HALdu) Yup. Just recently I reached the point where Gunsmoke is good again. Watch them with my Dad when I visit. His dementia has him mostly noncommunicative (talking - he still follows conversation and laughs at funny things), but we both enjoy watching TV shows like Bob Newhart. Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 04, 2019 05:11 PM (xPJvm) 460
The line of demarcation used to be bold and easy to read at the Journal. The junior news staffers were mouthing their lines, because they were waiting to advance in the left-wing world of all those other papers. The editorial staff were the grownups in the room.
Now, their news apprentices are the leftiest of the left, I figure because they are the top grads of the most respected schools, who compete with Patrice Lumumba. And the editorial page staff are, two out of three, hard line Nevah-Trumpahs of the old water, plus Drunk Before Noonan, "simply not our type, Thurston." So there is an awful lot of "assigned journalism" going on over there. It's really a lot more shocking than the Times. Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 04, 2019 05:12 PM (8ZmvG) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 04, 2019 05:13 PM (wscsn) 462
461 Heres something that puzzles me; what part of an AR is "the thing that goes up ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 04, 2019 05:13 PM (wscsn) -------- I'm not sure! Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2019 05:14 PM (n7LuX) 463
Thanks, Weasel, if you don't know, then no one does !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 04, 2019 05:15 PM (wscsn) 464
This probably won't be written about in the True Conservative® blogosphere...
Posted by: Colonel Haiku at October 04, 2019 05:19 PM (Y8JQ4) 465
There seems to be this feeling of a coverup that the Dems practically ran Ukraine and squeezed them whenever they were short on cash.
Posted by: Axeman at October 04, 2019 04:23 PM (DuZls) Its worse than that.. You squeeze Ukraine for chump change. Then you get the US and World Bank to float loans to Ukraine and take a big chunk of that for the real big bucks. Posted by: Oldcat at October 04, 2019 05:20 PM (FTPn0) 466
Derp State is Derp Stating??? Whoda Thunk It. BUT they are Totally scamming Trump/s
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 04, 2019 05:26 PM (BqBId) 467
Paperwork error - big deal - they won't be held accountable - deal with it. Ace: start taking action - organize a boycott, a write in campaign, a march. Do something constructive with your large reader base and influence. Don't laugh - the first step is to organize.
Posted by: Chouinard at October 04, 2019 05:30 PM (ua1m6) 468
Re: the quisling Goldberg. "Stay tuned" presupposes one is tuned, which begs the question at this point: to what? He's no longer at NR. His "newsletter" seems to be vaporware. What's his vector? Twitter? The only time I see him now is here, for mockery of his patheticness.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 04, 2019 05:38 PM (87EdW) 469
Since there is apparently a coterie of these guys infesting out intel agencies, I wonder if they drew straws as to who would commit perjury and pretend they were blowing the whistle on (checks notes) Trump investigating Dem wrongdoing?
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