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Mid-Morning Art Thread
Portrait Of A Pig
Jamie Wyeth
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (QQf6U)
Posted by: dingbat at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (CCi0x)
Posted by: Abzod at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (P/aDH)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Someguy at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (6GjnW)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (PkVlr)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 07, 2019 09:31 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (PkVlr)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (QQf6U)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Vic at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (dfRN6)
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2019 09:33 AM (aKxkI)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 07, 2019 09:33 AM (wzVKm)
Posted by: The Pig at October 07, 2019 09:33 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:33 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: FireHorse at October 07, 2019 09:34 AM (NH9pa)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 09:34 AM (cHbIE)
Teeny tiny nipples...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 07, 2019 09:34 AM (zBaqJ)
If you got a pig, there's gotta be a rat.
It's in the story folks.
I.WANT.A.RAT!
Posted by: browndog at October 07, 2019 09:34 AM (bGMOs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 07, 2019 09:34 AM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 07, 2019 09:35 AM (2RBkF)
Posted by: Hillary at October 07, 2019 09:35 AM (T78s4)
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2019 09:35 AM (aKxkI)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 07, 2019 09:36 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2019 09:32 AM (QQf6U)
"Muggy" works too
Posted by: sinalco at October 07, 2019 09:36 AM (yODqO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2019 09:36 AM (7rVsF)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at October 07, 2019 09:36 AM (IttZ7)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:36 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:36 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (7JIKD)
Still, I like the texture, and the way the pig's ears are sharply canted forward, as if listening to something important.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (ClOmq)
1h
"IG: DECLASSIFIED INFORMATION CONTRADICTS THE WHISTLEBLOWER." @foxandfriends But why are people surprised? The "partisan" Whistleblower was very wrong on what was said on my perfect, "no pressure," call with the Ukrainian President. Bring in another Whistleblower from the bench!
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (N4xQB)
Posted by: Piano guys phone at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (s4KKm)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Robert LaVoy Finicum at October 07, 2019 09:38 AM (mIJ9W)
Posted by: Arnold Ziffel at October 07, 2019 09:38 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 07, 2019 09:38 AM (2RBkF)
Posted by: Ladyl at October 07, 2019 09:38 AM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 09:38 AM (PkVlr)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:38 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (IttZ7)
They may as well be MSDNC these days, seriously.
Posted by: DocJ at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (77WPm)
Posted by: LL at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (C3O12)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: sinalco at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)
Posted by: RickZ at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (Y8PSl)
The Tale Of the Hero Pig - a limerick
There was a good farmer named Muntz
Had a three-legged pig that did stunts
"That pig saved my life,
So for me and my wife
We can't eat him up all at once!"
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (7JIKD)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (PkVlr)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (QQf6U)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (gmo/4)
Napoleon
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (PkVlr)
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He's more equal than the others.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:40 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at October 07, 2019 09:41 AM (DjiZK)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (ClOmq)
One of the best pigs of all, Babe.
Posted by: RickZ at October 07, 2019 09:41 AM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: Homer at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (Vy7tf)
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All her teeth are gone (all her teeth are gone)
And her hair is grey (and her hair is grey)
But she'll run again (But she'll run again)
For the presidenc-say (For the presidenc-say)
I'd be safe and warm (I'd be safe and warm)
If she would just go away (If she would just go away)
Hillary dreamin' (Hillary dreamin')
On election day!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (+y/Ru)
In the pic the story showed, the car does not look happy to be held in his human's arms.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (DjiZK)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (ClOmq)
*******
The Ukrainegate 'Whisteblower' Isn't a Real Whistleblower Rolling Stone
******
When LOON Matt Taibbi is ripping Progtard Party you know it is BAD
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (PkVlr)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (ejd/p)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (ClOmq)
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Empress of Blandings - P.G. Wodehouse
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (dfRN6)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (IttZ7)
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (UFLLM)
*******
The Ukrainegate 'Whisteblower' Isn't a Real Whistleblower Rolling Stone
******
When LOON Matt Taibbi is ripping Progtard Party you know it is BAD
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (BqBId)
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I do not think this whole whisteblower thing is polling well and some Democrats and partisans are beginning to realize it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (q80AH)
unwinnable war in the ME and near ME that has now lasted longer than the Revolutionary war,
the civil war, WW I and WWII combined?
Maybe it's just me,
maybe I'm the problem, but unending expenditures of American blood and
treasure to satisfy the Globalist/MIC's bloodlust and coffers harshes my
mellow.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (tJHro)
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (7JIKD)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:42 AM (ClOmq)
Prius' excepted.
Posted by: RickZ at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: Eeyore at October 07, 2019 09:44 AM (ZbwAu)
Looks like Miss Delilah got overtaken in the last weekend of AKC National Owner-Handled competition for the year.
The last few weekends I've had to be the one handling her because Her Majesty is in no condition to go into the ring. I can do a mechanically-adequate job, but I have no great skill and HM must grind her teeth watching me. To her credit, she's pointed out what I need to improve but otherwise has been complimentary.
Saturday's judge was an old stupe and dumped our girl "because her coat felt strange." Idiot. We got to the O-H group on Sunday and got a Group 3, but we needed a Group 1 if not O-H Best in Show and I'm not the guy to do it.
We're very proud of our little girl all the same. She's a sweetie, loves to show and is a real trouper.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2019 09:44 AM (7rVsF)
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 09:44 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: a life spent waiting on the potatoes at October 07, 2019 09:44 AM (Bf3hj)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at October 07, 2019 09:44 AM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:44 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: Hillary at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (T3K6c)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (ClOmq)
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Empress of Blandings - P.G. Wodehouse
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 07, 2019
*
*
Wodehouse wrote so many books I can't keep up with them all!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (ClOmq)
*******
actually none of what they are doing is polling well & then you ask yourself "Why are they doing that" PANIC
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (7rVsF)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (ClOmq)
One of the best pigs of all, Babe.
-
Old Major, the Marx of Animal Farm
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (WkmoA)
Can't imagine anything going wrong with that.
Posted by: DocJ at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (77WPm)
Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (T9rmq)
The President has released the transcript, there is nothing illegal or impeachable on the call.
This is all becoming absurd.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (tJHro)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 09:46 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2019
*
*
I think I tore something during that stretch.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:46 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 09:46 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at October 07, 2019 09:46 AM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (mvenn)
Yum! Where the dead bodies at?
Posted by: The Pig at October 07, 2019 09:33 AM (gmo/4)
________________________You meant "Where the dead babies at..." AOC: Eat the Babies!!! Halal eats!
Posted by: lwc at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (G8lfi)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM
Well, they do like pork. This is a Known Thing.
*ponders their love of duck*
Uh oh...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (ejd/p)
I'm not even quite sure what the value of a "2nd whistleblower" even is at this point is other than a agitprop.
The President has released the transcript, there is nothing illegal or impeachable on the call.
This. What's a second "whistleblower" going to add, except perhaps less skeevy? They've shot their bolt.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (7rVsF)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (WkmoA)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (ClOmq)
Olivia the Pig
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Hillbilly Pig bugger at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (gmo/4)
maybe I'm the problem, but unending expenditures of American blood and treasure to satisfy the Globalist/MIC's bloodlust and coffers harshes my mellow.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (tJHro)
It's not just you. I'm no isolationist, and I find the Ron Paul view of the world equally stupid to the John McCain one. But our military actions should be in pursuit of clearly defined objectives that advance our countries interests. Almost nothing we've done in the past 15 years or so meets that standard.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (N4xQB)
Hamlet
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 09:46 AM (mvenn)
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To squee, or not to squee...
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM (dfRN6)
He should have waited and painted a plate full of bacon.
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM (EYsyU)
Posted by: KWDreaming at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM (G0NYe)
Snowball
Wilbur
Arnold Ziffel (well, that's a stretch to say literature. Popular culture, then)
Any others?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Me. Just ask my ex-wife.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at October 07, 2019 09:41 AM (DjiZK)
Durock?
You raised concrete board?!?
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM (T3K6c)
FOUR LEGS GOOD! TWO LEGS BAD!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM (veoSD)
Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (T9rmq)
When I was a wee lad, an old farmer lady told me after I commented on the odor that "If you raise bees you get honey, if you raise animals you get shit".
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (g5NxQ)
Posted by: Peppa Pig at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM
Well, they do like pork. This is a Known Thing.
*ponders their love of duck*
Uh oh...
Teraductals.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (HaL55)
That's what I've been saying all along. I'm exonerated!
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 07, 2019 09:50 AM (EYsyU)
Arrrggghhhh, you shortened my nice long three-legged pig joke to a limerick!
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 09:50 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2019 09:50 AM (9HR8n)
You raised concrete board?!?
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 09:48 AM
Durock is perfect prace!
Posted by: Token Asian character in Shreck at October 07, 2019 09:50 AM (ejd/p)
I'm going to borrow a Stephen Crowder bit for all of the we must not pull our troops anywhere ever crowd.
I'm against unending pointless expenditure's of American Blood and Treasure, change my mind!
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:50 AM (tJHro)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 07, 2019 09:50 AM (DMUuz)
Posted by: IC at October 07, 2019 09:51 AM (3SIip)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at October 07, 2019 09:51 AM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 07, 2019 09:51 AM (YslsA)
HOW DARE YOU!!
Posted by: Little Greta at October 07, 2019 09:51 AM (PtOP4)
Posted by: The Earl of Emsworth at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (5h/3t)
*******
actually none of what they are doing is polling well & then you ask yourself "Why are they doing that" PANIC
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 09:45
Panic?
Or minions doing their Master's bidding...?
Posted by: Heirloominati at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (dYdbl)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (HaL55)
Yeah about that.....turns out Millies are like every other generation. They hit 35, they get married have kids and buy a 4 bedroom home in a cul de sac in the burbs.
Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (FiUMj)
Posted by: Brother Cavil is bored, why do you ask? at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: IC at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (3SIip)
Posted by: Canadian Bacon Pig at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: JTB at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (bmdz3)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (N4xQB)
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I'm in the "it takes a razed village" for diplomacy to work.
Basically, mess with the US, or our allies, a razed village is where things start.
No more nation building. Rubble, bounce rubble, turn rubble to dust.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (qC1Sy)
It's Monday...my excuse for being illiterate. Also my day to shovel out the pig's digs. They don't really get stinky but by the seventh day it gets to smelling a little like a stable...not all that unpleasant, as Ben Had will tell you.
See you later, all. Or sooner, if the shooting starts.
creep out
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (7JIKD)
Panic?
Or minions doing their Master's bidding...?
Posted by: Heirloominati at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (dYdbl)
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Panic. There's no directing hand with enough control over the party as a whole.
Schiff seems to be out on his own, leading Pelosi instead of being led.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: Porky Pig at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (UFLLM)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (CQ3Qb)
Almost like there's this thing called human nature that people keep forgetting about.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 07, 2019 09:54 AM (ejd/p)
maybe I'm the problem, but unending expenditures of American blood
and treasure to satisfy the Globalist/MIC's bloodlust and coffers
harshes my mellow.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (tJHro)
It's not just you. I'm no isolationist, and I find the Ron Paul view
of the world equally stupid to the John McCain one. But our military
actions should be in pursuit of clearly defined objectives that advance
our countries interests. Almost nothing we've done in the past 15 years
or so meets that standard.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (N4xQB)
If you go to war, it should be for a purpose so fundamentally existential that you are willing use every weapon available to you so as to end it as quickly as possible - and they you actually use them.
Posted by: DocJ at October 07, 2019 09:54 AM (77WPm)
Posted by: GWB
*****
Heh. Sorry about that. I'll agree that it works better as a shaggy hog story, but I couldn't resist the challenge.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 09:55 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Ahab The Arab at October 07, 2019 09:55 AM (Pzzpr)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (qC1Sy)
A parking lot concession opportunity is missing its parking lot.
Posted by: RickZ at October 07, 2019 09:55 AM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:55 AM (gmo/4)
http://tinyurl.com/y69ryzlj
Posted by: The Earl of Emsworth at October 07, 2019 09:55 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: DocJ at October 07, 2019 09:54 AM (77WPm)
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"War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over."
-Sherman
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:55 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at October 07, 2019 09:56 AM (DjiZK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 09:56 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2019 09:37 AM (gmo/4)
Soooooooieeeeeee!!!!!
(A second hand fan)
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 09:56 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: Archer
Pork-barrel R&D at its finest.
Posted by: Brother Cavil is bored, why do you ask? at October 07, 2019 09:56 AM (AM1GF)
-- lefty art critics (BIRM) everywhere
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 07, 2019 09:57 AM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death
Durock?
You raised concrete board?!?
Posted by: GWB
They were slow growing, but they were solid.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 09:57 AM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (g5NxQ)
Given that honey is bee vomit................
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 09:57 AM (T3K6c)
Schiff seems to be out on his own, leading Pelosi instead of being led.
You seem to be forgetting who the Progs' HMIC is: Notorious BLZ Bubb.
He runs everything and everybody in teh Swamp.
"It's not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."
- David Plouffe, Bronco Bama fellator and anti-American Progressive on 6-13-16.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 09:58 AM (HaL55)
-- lefty art critics (BIRM) everywhere
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 07, 2019 09:57 AM (qc+VF)
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"Joker didn't attack my personal political enemies clearly enough, therefore it is bad."
-Richard Brody (in The New Yorker), paraphrased
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 09:58 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: DocJ at October 07, 2019 09:54 AM (77WPm)
contrary to what the leftists have been screeching since before he took office, Trump appears to be the most anti-war President in a long, long time. The left keeps getting all these heated pieces together saying "Trump is starting a war!!!" and then he doesn't, and so they write "How can Trump refuse to start a war???"
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 09:58 AM (Kpl3J)
"Dear pig, are you willing, to sell for one shilling your ring? Said the Piggy, "I will.""
Posted by: mrp at October 07, 2019 09:58 AM (Pqytn)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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There is no such thing as 'Human Nature'. Everything is a social construct. We can shape human beings to be whatever we want. We just need the right people in charge.
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
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Don't forget "wider powers."
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 07, 2019 10:00 AM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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There is no such thing as 'Human Nature'. Everything is a social construct. We can shape human beings to be whatever we want. We just need the right people in charge.
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
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Let's just start with things like initiative, heterosexuality, and independent thinking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:00 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: JT at October 07, 2019 10:00 AM (arJlL)
Almost like there's this thing called human nature that people keep forgetting about.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 07, 2019 09:54 AM (ejd/p)
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Yep. But for 10ish years the MSM (partially fueled by Millie "reporters") was on a non-stop Millenials are changing everything jihad. Turns out they didn't change shit. They just did thing a little bit later than GenX. But in the end, human nature is human nature.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 07, 2019 10:00 AM (FiUMj)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 07, 2019 10:00 AM (YslsA)
Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 07, 2019 10:01 AM (B06Zw)
Posted by: mrp at October 07, 2019 10:01 AM (Pqytn)
********
In college I had a part time job as a shoat odor kook.
(wait for it)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:01 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
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Let's just start with things like initiative, heterosexuality, and independent thinking."
Carousel!!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 07, 2019 10:02 AM (cqNba)
Let's just start with things like initiative, heterosexuality, and independent thinking."
Carousel!!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 07, 2019 10:02 AM (cqNba)
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Renew!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:02 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: windbag at October 07, 2019 10:02 AM (T0pI6)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 07, 2019 10:02 AM (+oXMi)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 07, 2019 10:00 AM
Yup.
Dear MFM, the Gods of the Copybook Headings say hi! Also LOLGF!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 07, 2019 10:03 AM (ejd/p)
*******
The Ukrainegate 'Whisteblower' Isn't a Real Whistleblower Rolling Stone
******
When LOON Matt Taibbi is ripping Progtard Party you know it is BAD
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (BqBId)
Matt Taibi is a leftist, just like the rest of the journolista's, but he's always appeared to be an honest leftist, and he won't strip naked and cover himself in chicken fat when his masters order it, like Brian Stelter will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:03 AM (Kpl3J)
"There is no such thing as 'Human Nature'. Everything is a social
construct. We can shape human beings to be whatever we want. We just
need the right people in charge.
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
And this picture is how they really see us.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 10:03 AM (HaL55)
-Sherman
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019
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The original probably read:
"War is hell."
(-- Sherman, watching his whiskey supply topple off his pack horse into the river in Georgia)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 10:03 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: mrp at October 07, 2019 10:04 AM (Pqytn)
Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2019 10:04 AM (9HR8n)
I'm glad he follows his own tastes in technique and scenes and doesn't bury himself under his father's or grandfather's styles.
Posted by: JTB at October 07, 2019 10:04 AM (bmdz3)
Posted by: JT at October 07, 2019 10:04 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
Pfffft.
Heh. Heh heh heh.
Mwahahahahahaha!
Posted by: The Gods of the Copybook Headings at October 07, 2019 10:04 AM (J+mig)
And good morning Horde. Back in the saddle for another week. Boy could I use a vacation. Everybody have the best possible day given the malevolence of an indifferent universe. No, that's not a contradiction, indifference can be malevolent.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 09:49 AM (g5NxQ)
Given that honey is bee vomit................
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019
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Mmf. Oh, well, one end of the animal or the other, amirite?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (ClOmq)
It's not just you. I'm no isolationist, and I find the Ron Paul view of the world equally stupid to the John McCain one. But our military actions should be in pursuit of clearly defined objectives that advance our countries interests. Almost nothing we've done in the past 15 years or so meets that standard.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 09:47 AM (N4xQB)
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I'm in the "it takes a razed village" for diplomacy to work.
Basically, mess with the US, or our allies, a razed village is where things start.
No more nation building. Rubble, bounce rubble, turn rubble to dust.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (qC1Sy)
Abandoning the Kurds is getting to be a habit for the US. This makes the third or fourth time in the last 50-60 years. Which is ironic, because out of everyone in the Middle East, only the Israelis and the Kurds are worth a shit. The rest are a bunch of untrustworthy mohammedan savages. Hell, Israel and Kurdistan are pretty much the only areas in the ME where an American can walk the streets without being rigged up like they're assaulting Fallujah.
I don't have a problem with pulling out of the ME entirely, but it pains me that we're starting with the people who've proven that they're actually faithful allies.
If we're going to abandon them again, we should at least give them the weapons with which they can defend themselves. Considering the mountains of money that we've given to "allies" who cheerfully stab us in the back at the drop of a hat, a couple of billion in modern weapons isn't going to make a difference to the US budget, but it'll go a long way towards helping the Kurds survive.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (veoSD)
"It's not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."
- David Plouffe
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Emblematic of the truly disgusting left. A lisping arrogant poofter. It's astounding that even the Dems can stomach the guy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2019 10:04 AM (9HR8n)
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DAMN RIGHT!!
Posted by: Van Gogh at October 07, 2019 10:06 AM (FiUMj)
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. I'll have to read the thread but I bet I've missed all the pork puns.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:06 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:03 AM (Kpl3J)
To be fair, Stelter does that just for fun.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:06 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mrp at October 07, 2019 10:01 AM (Pqytn)
The farm lady had her farmhands turning young calves into steers that day. I certainly wasn't going to argue about it with her.
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 10:07 AM (g5NxQ)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 07, 2019 10:07 AM (FiUMj)
Rosie O'Donnell oinking . . . er, tweeting again ?
Posted by: Sphynx at October 07, 2019 10:07 AM (rXie1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:07 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:07 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:08 AM (mvenn)
Um, I don't think that's why Brian does that. I think he just likes it.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 07, 2019 10:08 AM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 07, 2019 10:08 AM (FiUMj)
maybe I'm the problem, but unending expenditures of American blood and
treasure to satisfy the Globalist/MIC's bloodlust and coffers harshes my
mellow.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:43 AM (tJHro)
Be happy and content. Trump has turned the anti-war left into the NeoCons.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 07, 2019 10:09 AM (xG/b0)
Posted by: mrp
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There always seem to be apes associated. Never understood that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:09 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 07, 2019 10:09 AM (cqNba)
David Plouffe
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Emblematic of the truly disgusting left. A lisping arrogant poofter. It's astounding that even the Dems can stomach the guy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (5h/3t)
Hell, even his last name is faggy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2019 10:09 AM (veoSD)
Posted by: Vic at October 07, 2019 10:10 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Progressive Left at October 07, 2019 09:59 AM (5h/3t)
And this picture is how they really see us.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 10:03 AM (HaL55)
and, just as Lewis wrote that all Great Evils are perversions of great good, this theme of the leftists over the centuries (Robespierre preached it, Marx preached it, Lenin and Mao preached it) is a perversion of the Christian message of repentance and rebirth, the replacement of the "old man" by a "new man" modeled on Christ.
The DIFFERENCE in Christian teaching is that this process must be intensely personal, and must come from within each person. It is an act of personal reflection and renewal, a choice to live ones life in a better way than you had been doing. It cannot be imposed by force from outside. The leftists take what was meant to be an internal act of renewal and moral purpose, and turn it into an external act of force and control. Well, that's how B.Z. Bub works.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:10 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Zombie John Murtha at October 07, 2019 10:10 AM (Pzzpr)
Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2019 10:10 AM (9HR8n)
It's disappointing to say the least. I don't have all the inside info as those making the decision but on the surface I don't like it.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:12 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (veoSD)
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The Kurds are allies?
Then, it's time to raze a village. Or three.
Then, arm the Kurds to the teeth.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 07, 2019 10:12 AM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: Sponge at October 07, 2019 10:12 AM (DeUUb)
Posted by: Sponge at October 07, 2019 10:13 AM (DeUUb)
The Progressive Party (I refuse to even use the word "Democrat" for this) is full of people just like him: mewling quim control freaks who have no comprehension of the word "empathy" who have a gigantic ego where their conscience should be.
They are the worst exemplars of what's wrong with human nature and the exact type of people who are attracted to power. Our Founders knew this and designed our government to be as small and weak domestically as possible in order to minimize the negative effects of these insane power-mongers.
To stop the abuses that we're seeing today.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 10:13 AM (HaL55)
Basically, mess with the US, or our allies, a razed village is where things start.
No more nation building. Rubble, bounce rubble, turn rubble to dust.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 07, 2019 09:53 AM (qC1Sy)
Nation building cannot ever work under the namby-pamby rubric of "tolerance and diversity." The pretense that all cultures are equal is demonstrably false.
Dysfunctional cultures do not build functional nations. The only way to make nation building work is to reform the culture of the nation you're building
We outlawed Nazism, and pursued a vigorous campaign of denazification in Germany. In Japan, we outlawed the practice of their old state religion while they were under military governance.
It takes extreme measures to reconstruct a nation, and the intellectual honesty to objectively assess what's broken in a culture, so that it can be removed or patched.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:13 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at October 07, 2019 10:13 AM (ySnWN)
Not polar-bear sized ones, though. You can't hold those in with cattle panels.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at October 07, 2019 10:13 AM (UfRqq)
Posted by: Pesky Anal Leaker Adam Schitt at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (UFLLM)
Posted by: JTB at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (bmdz3)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (jYnPD)
Posted by: doof at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (olgDX)
Posted by: doof at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (olgDX)
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It's the new "Who Dis?" theme question.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:16 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: Robert at October 07, 2019 10:16 AM (CYsVd)
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Unlike his father and grandfather his work always looks 'labored'. That's not the message a painter wants to send.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 10:16 AM (yRAFu)
The DIFFERENCE in Christian teaching is that this process must be intensely personal, and must come from within each person. It is an act of personal reflection and renewal, a choice to live ones life in a better way than you had been doing. It cannot be imposed by force from outside. The leftists take what was meant to be an internal act of renewal and moral purpose, and turn it into an external act of force and control. Well, that's how B.Z. Bub works.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:10 AM (Kpl3J)
All of the great evils of history have been conducted in the service of some alleged greater good.
There is no greater good, there is only good and evil. Evil breeds evil. Good ends do not come from evil acts. The ends do not justify the means.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:17 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2019 10:17 AM (9HR8n)
Very good movie, but hard to discuss in depth without spoilers, s-o-o-o-o-o-o I won't really do that.
Great acting all around. Great directing. Very good script with some nice twists. Excellent soundtrack. A bit of antifaish "eat the rich" that is actually much more subtle than it looks esp if you consider the Joker's final joke at the climax.
Plays like a character driven drama or very very dark comedy, so it's not a "super villain movie" if that's what you're expecting.
Not for those morons or ettes, who must have a feel good movie or a protagonist you like to enjoy a movie or whatever.
For as one woman stated loudly to her husband(?) as we were exiting:
"I didn't like that. That wasn't like any other movie. There was no action or characters weren't...(indistinct).
I mean Joaquin Phoenix was amazing, but that wasn't a movie! Really!"
So, there you go. Two opinions in one comment! Value for your money.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 07, 2019 10:17 AM (Qi2cF)
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 10:17 AM (yRAFu)
Posted by: doof at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (olgDX)
It would be if we knew the McRib was pork instead of 'some kind of meat, maybe ' .
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:18 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2019 10:05 AM (veoSD)
The Kurds inhabit a very unfortunate piece of real estate, even worse than the Poles. They're surrounded by powerful enemies on all sides, and we have to go through those enemies just to give them any help at all. To top it off, they have no truly defensible borders. They are very sympathetic allies, but allying with them militarily would mean a Forever War for us, because they're in a Forever War with no way out.
GWB and the NeoCons believed we could fix all the evils in the world. But we can't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:19 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:19 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Pesky Anal Leaker Adam Schitt at October 07, 2019 10:20 AM (UFLLM)
Or minions doing their Master's bidding...?
Posted by: Heirloominati at October 07, 2019 09:52 AM (dYdbl)
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Nah it's Panic ! Starting from when the MFM wouldn't call Pa. for Trump even though Progtards in Pa. knew Trump had won it. Refusing to call Trump the winner of the election. to the last 321/2 years of Panic
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 10:20 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: doof at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (olgDX)
It would be if we knew the McRib was pork instead of 'some kind of meat, maybe ' .
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:18 AM (NqZ29)
As one moron once opined, "I don't care if it's hammered kangaroo assholes, it tastes good so I'll eat it."
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:20 AM (RD7QR)
McInvertedPorkRectum Sandwich is my favorite! 20 or 30 starts the day off right!
Posted by: Pesky Anal Leaker Adam Schitt at October 07, 2019 10:20 AM (UFLLM)
Make sure to get the boneless ones.
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (g5NxQ)
Very good movie, but hard to discuss in depth without spoilers, s-o-o-o-o-o-o I won't really do that.
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I'll go see it after the first mass shooting.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (yRAFu)
There was great 19th century paintings of pigs, horses, cows chickens etc all over the place and at auction.
they were really reasonable.
I bought maybe a couple of dozen
would of bought more but only knew I like them, not sure they would sell.
when my container came, while unloading, I sold about 20 on my front lawn
still have a few around my house
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (AQBtr)
And I can remember when we used to get cheerleaders and elbows.
Now we get swine.
Whatever did we do wrong???
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (axyOa)
*Zombie Julie Andrews sings to fat happy pig*
Bacon a-fryin' and
Pork loin a-smokin'
Sauteing ham steaks while drinkin' and jokin'
Soon little pig you will have angel's wings
These are a few of my favorite things!
Posted by: naturalfake at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (Qi2cF)
It's not about fixing. It's about stopping the spread. Unfortunately no one can support that opinion because you can't prove what you've prevented.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:22 AM (NqZ29)
And I can remember when we used to get cheerleaders and elbows.
Now we get swine.
Whatever did we do wrong???
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (axyOa)
It was that one thing that one time, I'm pretty sure we got a Yoko-palooza the next morning.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:22 AM (RD7QR)
Very good movie, but hard to discuss in depth without spoilers, s-o-o-o-o-o-o I won't really do that.
Great acting all around. Great directing. Very good script with some nice twists. Excellent soundtrack. A bit of antifaish "eat the rich" that is actually much more subtle than it looks esp if you consider the Joker's final joke at the climax.
Plays like a character driven drama or very very dark comedy, so it's not a "super villain movie" if that's what you're expecting.
Not for those morons or ettes, who must have a feel good movie or a protagonist you like to enjoy a movie or whatever.
For as one woman stated loudly to her husband(?) as we were exiting:
"I didn't like that. That wasn't like any other movie. There was no action or characters weren't...(indistinct).
I mean Joaquin Phoenix was amazing, but that wasn't a movie! Really!"
So, there you go. Two opinions in one comment! Value for your money.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 07, 2019 10:17 AM (Qi2cF)
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It was not good, though it was almost.
Full thoughts are you know where, but a quick distillation.
The movie's not well directed. It's actually pretty badly directed, and the script takes on too much and does too little with what it has.
The protest stuff is underdeveloped to an extreme. Arthur has a few fantasies and they either get dropped unceremoniously (looking at de Niro as a father figure), ended on sour notes (the girl down the hall, the best of the fantasies in general), or not actually his fantasy (his "true father") so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense why he would go as far as he does.
Scenes feel out of order in the first hour making it an odd experience.
It's the final half of the film, though, that nearly saves it. Once we get Arthur casting off the last of his mental support structures and embracing the psychopath he's always been (hidden by drugs), the movie works better. His ultimate act of violence is tangible and quite great, but the movie's embrace of ambiguity ends up kneecapping it in its final moments.
I wanted to like it more than I did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:22 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: Pesky Anal Leaker Adam Schitt at October 07, 2019 10:23 AM (UFLLM)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:23 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2019 10:25 AM (bzW9C)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:17 AM (J+mig)
An important exception to the general rule, and I've thought on how to put this in words correctly - The ends do justify the means when the survival of those who you are dedicated to protect is at stake. You may make the moral choice to sacrifice your own life, but it is not a moral choice to sacrifice the lives of those who depend on you.
this is the moral mistake Ghandi made in his philosophy.
also, a corollary: for this exception to apply, you must have exhausted all reasonable alternatives first.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:23 AM (WkmoA)
Perhaps but who wants to look at Dems all the time. Boobs and asses.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (AQBtr)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (mvenn)
Heritage Foundation "These numbers are blockbusters. Just since Donald Trump took office, Median Family Incomes are up over $4,100. In 8 years under President Obama, they only went up $1000. In one third the time, President Trump has increased incomes 4 times as much, and that. doesn't even include the almost $2000 that the families got from the Trump Tax Cut." Stephen Moore, Freedomworks That means $5000 to $6000 more in disposable yearly income that Americans have right now because of President Trump!
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 10:27 AM (BqBId)
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I have no doubt it's been bandied about, and rejected, and will be back on the table after President Trump's reelection.
I'll also bet the FBI has already picked out and begun cultivating their potential Marinus van der Lubbe. Probably a Trump hating Stormfronter of the "Tree of Life shooter" variety, for the added benefit/insult of demonizing and cracking down on his voters after the fact.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2019 10:28 AM (T38ed)
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:28 AM (AQBtr)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I've mentioned that I have been reading the Moron-recommended 'Paris in the Terror', by Loomis. Again a tip-o-the-hat to one who suggested it.
In it, Loomis comments, "The harsh law of nature which insists that the inept shall sink and the competent rise often transcends the more complicated laws of men that are designed to oppose nature's laws."
I expect to be quoting him from time to time.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:29 AM (5h/3t)
Marine Salutes and says Welcome Home Mr President
*Obama salutes back*
*Marine thinking fast adds* Nice Pig sir
Yeah Yeah Uh Uh I got it for Michelle
NICE TRADE SIR
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:29 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Diogenes
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Hmm. I must review my T'pol and Counselor Troi videos.
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (WkmoA)
tore the shit out of his car
Posted by: REDACTED
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Well, sure...but what about the pig?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (5h/3t)
THIS
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (ySnWN)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (WkmoA)
Mutt wants to challenge Trump
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (AQBtr)
Yes, because everybody in the GOP found a guy named after a piece of athletic equipment so FREAKING inspiring. Ptui.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2019 10:31 AM (bzW9C)
I'm not even quite sure what the value of a "2nd whistleblower" even is at this point is other than a agitprop.
The President has released the transcript, there is nothing illegal or impeachable on the call.
This is all becoming absurd.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 09:45 AM (tJHro)
ITS FUNNY CUASE THE SECOND "WHISTLE-BLOWER" IS PURPORTEDLY FORM THE IRS, WHO ONCE HAD A IG/WHISTLE-BLOWER FINDING AGAINST THEM FORCING THEM TO ADMIT PARTISAN CRIMES AGAINST THE TEA PARTY AND NOTHING WAS DONE TO LOIS LEARNER OR ANY OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED.
AND LEARNER AND CREW EVEN ADMITTED THE COMMITTED THE CRIMES TO THE PRESS, IN A NEWS CONFERENCE
BUT NOTHING WAS DONE AND NOBODY ON THE LEFT CARED.
Posted by: Ben Rothlisbergergler at October 07, 2019 10:31 AM (ymnmz)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 07, 2019 10:31 AM (amDg6)
tore the shit out of his car
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:28 AM (AQBtr)
I read that as driving in Capris. If so that should be cause for a ticket.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:32 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (5h/3t)
She's ok, think she married with 5 kids
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:32 AM (AQBtr)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 10:32 AM (cHbIE)
They may as well be MSDNC these days, seriously.
Posted by: DocJ at October 07, 2019 09:39 AM (77WPm)
The WSJ editorial section has generally been conservative (albeit their GOPe open borders position), while the news section is as liberal as the WaPo or NYT. When Murdoch bought the WSJ from the Bancroft family, there was practically an open revolt in the newsroom about it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 07, 2019 10:32 AM (iuFgi)
Posted by: Muldoon
That'll happen in a pigs eye!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:33 AM (axyOa)
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Heritage Foundation "These numbers are blockbusters. Just since
Donald Trump took office, Median Family Incomes are up over $4,100. In 8
years under President Obama, they only went up $1000. In one third the
time, President Trump has increased incomes 4 times as much, and that.
doesn't even include the almost $2000 that the families got from the
Trump Tax Cut." Stephen Moore, Freedomworks That means $5000 to $6000
more in disposable yearly income that Americans have right now because
of President Trump!
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 10:27 AM (BqBId)
Owwwww! My balls.
Posted by: SJW NPC at October 07, 2019 10:33 AM (ymnmz)
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:33 AM (hgpSN)
I think we should move our Iraqi base to Kurdistan and leave it at that. Just let everyone know that if they screw with the Kurds, they should try to drive through us first. (We do have to worry about the actual Kurdish terrorists; yes, they exist.)
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The only way to make nation building work is to reform the culture of the nation you're building
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:13 AM (J+mig)
Been saying this for ~30 years now.
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 10:33 AM (T3K6c)
tore the shit out of his car
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:28 AM (AQBtr)
And it was no longer the sexy European it had been.
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 10:34 AM (g5NxQ)
Video with headlights?
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:34 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (JFO2v)
You remind me of Ambrose Bierce's definition of "Miracle" in his Devil's Dictionary: "Miracle - an act which ordinarily could never be expected to occur, such as when a hand of 4 Kings and an Ace is beaten by 4 Aces and a King."
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:34 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:34 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: doof at October 07, 2019 10:14 AM (olgDX)
I tried to order a mcrib and egg bfast sammich and the young lady looked at me and said she was thinking about throwing up.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (RD7QR)
Now we get swine.
Whatever did we do wrong???
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:21 AM (axyOa)
I'm more interested in the pig than the Pigs
Posted by: cronustitan85@gmail.com at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (mvenn)
Elaan and T'Pring.
But bring your Lurpa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2019 10:31 AM (bzW9C)
****
Just about any babe (see how I worked the pig angle in there???) that Kirk nailed in TOS.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (RD7QR)
Yes. Zod is brunching on a Reuben today.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:35 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: rhennigantx at
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I hope you made her fix your sammich first.
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:36 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: whistle at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (yPxXc)
Posted by: josephistan at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (7HtZB)
Donald Trump took office, Median Family Incomes are up over $4,100. In 8
Hasn't trickled down to me yet. Hope springs eternal. Though hope is sometimes a dry well.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: doof at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (olgDX)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (JFO2v)
You remind me of Ambrose Bierce's definition of "Miracle" in his Devil's Dictionary: "Miracle - an act which ordinarily could never be expected to occur, such as when a hand of 4 Kings and an Ace is beaten by 4 Aces and a King."
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:34 AM (Kpl3J)
It is one of the last lines in Animal Farm appropriate here.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: Jean at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (B7KlG)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 07, 2019 10:38 AM (uquGJ)
2h
Key questions - my professional opinion, based on knowledge of national security process, is he knew everything - and directed much...
Rudy Giuliani @RudyGiuliani
What did Obama know? And when did he know it?
twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/11811560298
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 07, 2019 10:38 AM (BqBId)
https://youtu.be/gbXyTW8YdZ8
He saw all this even before the Summer Of Love? We must have known even back then. This coming year is going to be rough.
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2019 10:38 AM (aKxkI)
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:38 AM (hgpSN)
Yup... That a judge can rule like this is disgusting.. Expect an appeal and a trip to the SCOTUS
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 10:39 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Jean at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (B7KlG)
He should redact and leave just enough letters showing to spell lol get fucked.
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 10:39 AM (g5NxQ)
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 10:39 AM (yRAFu)
Posted by: Chief Wiggum at October 07, 2019 10:39 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:39 AM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Jean at October 07, 2019 10:39 AM (B7KlG)
What did Obama know? And when did he know it?
Amazing stuff, Rudy! I'm just reading about it in the papers this morning...
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 07, 2019 10:40 AM (aKxkI)
Interesting, a godless communist converts to a religious fanaticism.
The one they call Brennan is a piece of work.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:40 AM (hgpSN)
this is the moral mistake Ghandi made in his philosophy.
also, a corollary: for this exception to apply, you must have exhausted all reasonable alternatives first.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:26 AM (Kpl3J)
When someone else places you in the position of having to fight for your life (or those of your dependents), it cannot be morally wrong, because you did not choose it. For a decision to be moral, you have to have agency to choose. Your hand was forced by another. There was no choice.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:40 AM (J+mig)
What did Obama know? And when did he know it?
We will never find out.. Unlike Trump the media will ignore anything against obama
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (O2RFr)
tore the shit out of his car
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 10:28 AM (AQBtr)
So... there was nothing left?
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (WkmoA)
Isnt that the kids make out game two minutes of heaven?
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (JFO2v)
"Congratulations. The opposing party will now investigate you. Assume the position."
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:42 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Jean at October 07, 2019 10:43 AM (B7KlG)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at October 07, 2019 10:43 AM (CPk08)
The protest stuff is underdeveloped to an extreme...
SPOILERY STUFF - Don't read if you want to see "JOKER"
Well, we obviously disagree.
The protest stuff is a good point to talk about though-
that it's minimized is really the point.
It's Arthur's movie, so we're seeing things from his view or as he experiences them.
The clown mask mob is only important(to Arthur) at first because he finds out that he can have a effect in the world.
But, he enjoys it from the outside, it's not really part of him or who he was or what he was doing.
When he tells his final "joke" at the talk show, that is the moment when he fully embraces his psychopathy and philosophy, and the moment -
when his madness and hatred and violence connects with the mob.
Connects with all those sick, angry people out there. He becomes Joker and the mob becomes his avatar.
Even to the point of killing you know who.
As it ends, Joker has found his audience who appreciate his "jokes".
If society does accept his "humor", that's okay cuz they're now the butt of his jokes instead of the other way around.
Spoilers offf.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 07, 2019 10:44 AM (Qi2cF)
Posted by: Jean at October 07, 2019 10:43 AM (B7KlG)
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I think Team Trump knows that impeachment is never going to happen, and this egging on is designed to affect the different voting blocks of the Democratic party.
The more Trump pushes Nancy to do it, the more the activist left is going to say, "He's asking for it! Do it!"
The more Trump pushes Nancy to do it, the more the moderate left is going to say, "Why are we wasting time with this?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:44 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (JFO2v)
You got short changed
Seven in Heaven.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (cEsBM)
THIS
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at October 07, 2019 10:30 AM (ySnWN)
We have deluded ourselves with this sanitized, kinder, gentler version of war. The soul and essence of war is cruelty, and the least cruel way to conduct it is quickly and decisively, so that the healing can begin sooner, rather than be delayed.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Ripley at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (MxEKc)
Super late but regarding NGU and others' question about the truth of
Brennan converting, the Horde's own Moki was stationed in Saudi Arabia
with the State Department at the same time Brennan was. She is convinced
that he, and several other high ranking State employees (one of whom
tried to divorce his wife the muslim way) converted. At the very least
his sympathies and instincts are to side with (religious/revolutionary)
muslims at every chance.
Islam is dedicated to tearing down our American government and replacing it with sharia law. How any muzzie organization is allowed inside our government remains a mystery to me. The MoBros, CAIR, and all the rest have that goal in their charter, whether officially or not.
And they are pursuing their goals all the time and in every way, be it politically, socially or religiously. It's a war that's being thrust upon us against our will. They could just leave us alone in peace, but their cult tells them not to.
It's the same story every time: control freaks who want to take over the whole world making life miserable for Normals who just want to be left alone.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (J+mig)
I agree 100%..to bad nuclear weapons got involved
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (cEsBM)
Posted by: Cosda at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (8108o)
America had the option to surrender after Pearl Harbor. It was a choice to fight, and to kill a great number of people in that fight. I maintain that choice was completely moral. As goes a country, so goes a man.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (Kpl3J)
The victor's healing, you mean. The vanquished must be crushed, humiliated, pillaged, and not allowed to heal.
Crush, drive, lamentations of da vimmen.
It is written.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:47 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: whistle at October 07, 2019 10:37 AM (yPxXc)
How much you willing to pay? I got attorney's fees to pay off.
Posted by: Stormy at October 07, 2019 10:47 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 07, 2019 10:48 AM (d6Ksn)
Brennan converting, the Horde's own Moki was stationed in Saudi Arabia
with the State Department at the same time Brennan was. She is convinced
that he, and several other high ranking State employees (one of whom
tried to divorce his wife the muslim way) converted. At the very least
his sympathies and instincts are to side with (religious/revolutionary)
muslims at every chance.
brennan is an asshole and traitor. And I have no doubt he kissed up to his muslim hosts and said and did nice things about islam to ingrattied himself with his muslim pals...but that is a long way from converting.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2019 10:48 AM (cEsBM)
The Just War theory is not an Ends Justify the Means example.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:48 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 07, 2019 10:49 AM (9PtLS)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (JFO2v)
You got short changed
Seven in Heaven.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (NqZ29)
Never did that. Would have required being invited to parties.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 07, 2019 10:49 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:50 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Cosda at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (8108o)
I don't think there is anything to damaging in them for PDT. Embarrasing yes, sure. But illegal? Doubtful for the reasons you mentioned. But But But there should be a law against political opponents using the courts and the irs to go after a legally elected President
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2019 10:50 AM (cEsBM)
Crush, drive, lamentations of da vimmen.
It is written.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:47 AM (hgpSN)
Yeah pretty much. The enemies these days really need to be wiped off the fucking map. You go until there is nobody left to complain.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 07, 2019 10:50 AM (9Om/r)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 10:50 AM (mvenn)
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I just wish our children could have been there to hear that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 07, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)
pretty sure that an army of IRS accountants have examined them
microscopically and if something was amiss he'd have been fined and
assets seized.
Posted by: Cosda at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM
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Trump has had the IRS and the State of New York up his a$$ literally for decades. There isn't anything to find there.
It's just another liberal smoke screen.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 07, 2019 10:50 AM (JUOKG)
When those guys found his spider-hole, they ought to have taken pictures, pissed down on him, and then rolled a grenade into the hole.
High-fives, MRE, let's go back to camp.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:51 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 07, 2019 10:52 AM (NWiLs)
Spoilers offf.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 07, 2019 10:44 AM (Qi2cF)
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Yeah, we disagree.
I don't see the protest stuff as important to Arthur's journey at all. It's extra.
Arthur's journey isn't about external acceptance it's about internal realization. It's about him coming out to the world. The world's reaction isn't that important to the story. It's Arthur coming out that's important. I think the movie really should have ended with his moment of public violence.
And, on top of it, the protests aren't really well handled in and of themselves. They start because Thomas Wayne called poor people clowns in an exchange that feels so unbelievable from a guy who's been doing PR as a rich guy for so long and is deciding on a run for mayor of Gotham.
The idea behind the protests isn't bad, but I think it's really poorly done. Their reasoning and explosion aren't as clear as they should be since they're mostly ignored until the halfway point. And Arthur pointedly ignoring them and refusing to accept them (as he does on the show) until the very end undermines the idea that he's looking for their acceptance at all. He gets his small moments like when he growls at the newspaper image, but if he was looking for that kind of mass acceptance, he would have grabbed onto it earlier.
It's...messy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:52 AM (q80AH)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:53 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:53 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:48 AM (NqZ29)
But of course it is. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the ultimate examples of a Good End justifying the most horrible means ever devised - vaporizing tens of thousand of civilians, including many women and children, in a flash. But I hold that was justified by the circumstances, and by the End sought. (more would have died if that had not been done)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:53 AM (Kpl3J)
When those guys found his spider-hole, they ought to have taken
pictures, pissed down on him, and then rolled a grenade into the hole.
High-fives, MRE, let's go back to camp.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:51 AM
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Unfortunately they couldn't do that. He was on the "capture alive at all costs" list. They would have faced court martials if they did anything other than what they did.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 07, 2019 10:53 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (HaL55)
Things got awkward after that.
I usually try NOT to bring up politics around the dude precisely because of this, but I couldn't sit there and listen to him spew MFM bullshit like it's truth. I just hope I didnt screw up Mr. MWR's friendship.
Posted by: MWR, the Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (FW4Mr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (aKsyK)
Almost.
Most horrible means ever devised: Death by paper cuts.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (hgpSN)
It's just another liberal smoke screen.
Posted by: Mr. Scott
I wouldn't be surprised to find out the IRS has an office in Trump Tower strictly for auditing.
Hell, my company has an office for KPMG for when they come for audits.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (cHbIE)
No, not of course. You assume that the ends were considered immoral.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (JFO2v)
You got short changed
Seven in Heaven.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:45 AM (NqZ29)
That was before I believed women could orgasm.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:55 AM (JFO2v)
The rabid Dem base will never be able to comprehend Trumps tax returns if they are ever released. Do they think they will find something Trumps crack accountants and teams of IRS auditors have missed.
Do you dispute that their base is, to a person, crack mathematicians and tax accountants? The same gaggle of geniuses who believed their own taxes increased because their IRS refund was less this past spring?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2019 10:55 AM (pNxlR)
Things got awkward after that.
I usually try NOT to bring up politics around the dude precisely because of this, but I couldn't sit there and listen to him spew MFM bullshit like it's truth. I just hope I didnt screw up Mr. MWR's friendship.
Posted by: MWR, the Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (FW4Mr)
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A good way to address this, I think, is to sidestep the specifics of the impeachment that's never going to happen and talk about why impeachment is never going to happen.
Polling of swing states, and stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 07, 2019 10:55 AM (q80AH)
America had the option to surrender after Pearl Harbor. It was a choice to fight, and to kill a great number of people in that fight. I maintain that choice was completely moral. As goes a country, so goes a man.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (Kpl3J)
Was surrender really an option? Not in any realistic scenario. The Public would have burned DC down if they had. Unrealistic choices are only theoretical.
But is fighting always immoral in of itself? I don't believe that either.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 10:55 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 07, 2019 10:56 AM (56NPE)
Then they choose execution over shameful court martials and die with honor, to be memorialized in song forever.
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:56 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 10:53 AM (RD7QR)
Bet you can't eat just one!
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 10:56 AM (g5NxQ)
Posted by: garrett at October 07, 2019 10:57 AM (kgih7)
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A friend had a Capri. He altered the name badge to 'Crapi'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (5h/3t)
Hell, my company has an office for KPMG for when they come for audits.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM
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It's very possible they did/do. I know they have teams at Walmart HQ and some of the other huge corporations.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (g5NxQ)
I usually try NOT
to bring up politics around the dude precisely because of this, but I
couldn't sit there and listen to him spew MFM bullshit like it's truth. I
just hope I didnt screw up Mr. MWR's friendship.
Posted by: MWR, the Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (FW4Mr)
If he has a man card worth a shit I would say you are safe.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (9Om/r)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 10:54 AM (NqZ29)
Most people have generally taken the position that killing over a hundred thousand non-combatant civilians at once is immoral. I take the position that, because of the ends sought, it was moral in that particular instance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (yRAFu)
There's nothing wrong with beating up the bully who won't leave you alone.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (HaL55)
Things got awkward after that.
I usually try NOT to bring up politics around the dude precisely because of this, but I couldn't sit there and listen to him spew MFM bullshit like it's truth. I just hope I didnt screw up Mr. MWR's friendship.
Posted by: MWR
#1 Dude's not really a friend if he behaves like that.
#2. Best way I've found to determine if someone really means something?
Bet.
Put your money where your mouth is. Let a disinterested third party hold the cash.
9 out of 10 times that'll shut them up.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 10:59 AM (cHbIE)
Posted by: garrett at October 07, 2019 10:59 AM (kgih7)
Posted by: saf at October 07, 2019 11:00 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: I'm sure someone else already observed at October 07, 2019 11:00 AM (hTdra)
You would have to ask Moki for specifics, but she appears to be quite certain based on what she saw when they were both there.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 07, 2019 11:00 AM (uquGJ)
Elaan and T'Pring.
But bring your Lurpa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2019
*
*
I'd go for all of 'em except Elaan. Even after she became more civilized under Kirk's "Taming of the Shrew" tutelage, she still wasn't all that. You'd need the lirpa AND the ahn woon to handle that one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 11:00 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2019 11:00 AM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Winston Churchill — ‘You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.' - To Neville Chamberlain’
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 11:01 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 07, 2019 11:01 AM (9Om/r)
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Included on the Giant List of Things That Chap My Ass is the argument that we were responsible for Pearl Harbor because Roosevelt's boycott of Japan left them with no choice but war. The boycott didn't cause Japanese aggression; Japanese aggression caused the boycott.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 07, 2019 11:02 AM (+y/Ru)
Surrender is always an option. If not for Churchill, England would have surrendered. And if all 3 carriers had been in Pearl Harbor that day, the US would have had to surrender quite quickly, no matter how much the public disliked it. The French public wasn't happy about surrendering to Germany, but they did it. And this is why I point out Ghandi's error - Ghandi was one who loudly stated that Surrender followed by passive resistance was always the only moral option. He was spectacularly wrong.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 11:02 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: saf at October 07, 2019 11:03 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 11:03 AM (5h/3t)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 07, 2019 11:03 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 07, 2019 11:03 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 07, 2019 11:03 AM (WkmoA)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:53 AM (Kpl3J)
Compared to the casualty projections for Operation Downfall, using the atomic bombs to shock the Emperor into surrender was the morally correct choice.
Millions of lives on both sides were spared a horror beyond compare.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (J+mig)
that he gives way more to charity that Clintons Biden, Obama
That he offset about a billion in taxes on about a billion in losses over the course of decade or more.
Posted by: I'm sure someone else already observed at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (ZpLiV)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (jEgzt)
9 out of 10 times that'll shut them up.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 07, 2019 10:59 AM (cHbIE)
that's what I always do
Actually had a putz take Mondale over RR for $20
I felt bad
that I didn't bet more
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (AQBtr)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (mvenn)
The Bill Clinton School of Disengagement got us the first WTC bombing and 9-11. It caused the unnecessary losses of Task Force Ranger. It seems a lot of people have not only forgotten that, but they've forgotten the lessons since 2001, that I articulated above. We're not fighting "someone else's war". We are fighting battles of necessity that keep our enemies in check.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 07, 2019 11:05 AM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (jEgzt)
In a pig's sty
Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2019 11:05 AM (AQBtr)
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 11:05 AM (yRAFu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 11:05 AM (5h/3t)
Yeah, we disagree.
I don't see the protest stuff as important to Arthur's journey at all. It's extra.
Arthur's journey isn't about external acceptance it's about internal realization. It's about him coming out to the world. The world's reaction isn't that important to the story. It's Arthur coming out that's important. I think the movie really should have ended with his moment of public violence.
Well, yeah, the movie is about Arthur's realization of who and what he truly is, but ending the movie on his act of public violence just makes him another nut with a gun. Not the Joker.
He becomes the Joker only when his little act of violence can connect to and destabilize Gotham.
I'm sure the scriptwriter was following the idea behind "The Dark Knight" Joker and his idea of just "giving a little push" and it all comes tumbling down.
He's not looking for acceptance. He's a narcissistic psychopath. He's looking for an audience, which is a very different thing.
At least, we can agree on one thing - the Thomas Wayne speech was clumsy. And in my estimation unnecessary.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 07, 2019 11:06 AM (Qi2cF)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 11:06 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 11:06 AM (5h/3t)
Boss, I think we have a leak. But it's ok, the customers don't seem upset.
Posted by: McDonald's Internal Security at October 07, 2019 11:06 AM (dBiBP)
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I've argued that those two bombings likely saved the world from a far more devastating atomic war. Had the world not seen the devastating effects of those two bombs, Russia and US (directly or indirectly) may have used those bombs in a subsequent war.
Posted by: SH at October 07, 2019 11:07 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 11:07 AM (NqZ29)
I'm reminded of this Linda Ronstadt album cover
https://tinyurl.com/y4ct67hq
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2019
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Nice hind paws. On Linda, we mean.
Posted by: Heel and Arch Fanciers, Inc. at October 07, 2019 11:07 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 11:04 AM (J+mig)
I agree completely, and that is my point. *That* was the end that justified a truly terrible means. There are times when a choice must be made to kill, in order to prevent even more killing later.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Insomniac
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I have no argument. Res judicata.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 07, 2019 11:05 AM
Porkus ipsa loquitor.
Bacon speaks for itself.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 07, 2019 11:08 AM (ejd/p)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 11:08 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 07, 2019 11:08 AM (56NPE)
Posted by: Cosda at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (8108o)
It'll be the same old BS. Only gave a small amount to charity, took this deduction or that deduction (all legal), has accounts off shore . . . .
There isn't anything illegal, it's the "appearance."
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 07, 2019 11:08 AM (cn/uI)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 11:09 AM (JFO2v)
I hope it backfires like the transcript release and that he itemized every bribe he had to pay New York officials.
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2019 11:09 AM (aKxkI)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 11:09 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (mvenn)
was the end that justified a truly terrible means. There are times when
a choice must be made to kill, in order to prevent even more killing
later.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 11:08 AM
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Those times usually only become apparent after the fact.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (NqZ29)
From now on, impeachment investigations will commence on Election Day+1, every four years, by the losing candidate's party.
"Congratulations. The opposing party will now investigate you. Assume the position."
Posted by: Zod at October 07, 2019 10:42 AM (hgpSN)
Not if it is a Dem in the oval office and the GOPe has control over the House. They'll make grandiose acclamations that impeachment is off the table, we are better than this, etc. while the new Dem Prezzie uses the US Constitution as toilet paper.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (N39Ws)
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We can learn that this is just another way for the government to control you. Once we start opening anyone's return to public inspection, there is no reason to hold back other peeks.
Posted by: SH at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 11:05 AM (yRAFu)
My experience playing "Axis & Allies" has led me to believe that the most likely path to an Axis victory would have been Japan invading Siberia at the same time as Barbarossa.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (N4xQB)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (VpIIl)
He was as narcissistic as Hitler.
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Narcissism was part of it, but with Hitler he thought he was fated to succeed. Tojo was just really stupid. Hitler's problem was he was wildly successful in a series of small wars and then decided to roll the dice on a big one. He was basically a compulsive gambler. Had he died in 1939 he would be worshipped in Germany ahead of Bismark to this day.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (yRAFu)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (O2RFr)
I'm guessing fuck all.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 07, 2019 11:11 AM (NWiLs)
We've already written the stories, but you'll have to wait until the returns are released.
Posted by: The NYT at October 07, 2019 11:11 AM (aKxkI)
The true appeal of the new "Joker" movie lies in its invidious validation of the white-male resentment that helped bring President Trump to power, writes Jeff Yang for @CNNOpinion
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Hmmm. Maybe I will have to see it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 07, 2019 11:11 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 11:11 AM (mvenn)
Well, he now has the transcripts, so he knows what *not* to say.
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2019 11:12 AM (aKxkI)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 07, 2019 11:12 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 11:12 AM (g5NxQ)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (O2RFr)
Both jack and squat. But the process is the punishment.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (RD7QR)
*******
An inflated sense of self importance and misdirected righteous indignation?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Sponge at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (9gDA7)
Hey CNN you think there was white male resentment in 2016...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (O2RFr)
100% safe bet - a mental illness.
Posted by: Roy at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (g5NxQ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivismisruin at October 07, 2019 11:13 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (N39Ws)
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Or if it's a GOPe President. This scorched-earth policy is only for when an American is President.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2019 11:14 AM (AzW6q)
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The Japs had already tangled with Siberian troops. They wanted no part of that. Their problem, ever expanding frontages in China, became Hitler's problem in Russia. Traveling around Ukraine you realize that ground warfare was more like naval combat given the vastness and openess of the terrain. Had the same feeling out in Ft. Carson. You realize a bunch of Indians can just pop up out of nowhere on those praries.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 07, 2019 11:14 AM (yRAFu)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 07, 2019 11:14 AM (ClOmq)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 11:14 AM (JFO2v)
pretty sure that an army of IRS accountants have examined them
microscopically and if something was amiss he'd have been fined and
assets seized.
Posted by: Cosda at October 07, 2019 10:46 AM (8108o)
It doesn't matter. What matters is holding them up while declaiming "He only paid x% in taxes!" Analysis? Pfft. What matters is trying to turn him into one of the 1%er scapegoats so they can fundraise off of him and excite their envy-based base to get out and vote.
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 11:15 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 07, 2019 11:15 AM (56NPE)
Posted by: Fritz at October 07, 2019 11:15 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2019 11:15 AM (cEsBM)
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2019 10:41 AM (JFO2v)
Just tell her it's Gabriel's Trumpet.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2019 11:16 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 11:18 AM (T3K6c)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 07, 2019 11:10 AM (N4xQB)
My experience in Hearts of Iron aligns with that. Japan's best moves are to focus on Northern Expansion after dealing with China. Join AntiComintern but not the Axis, take half of Russia on up to its Central Asian oil fields, and DO NOT get into a war with the US.
Then start seeking to mend fences with the West, hoping that they'll be too busy dealing with Hitler to worry about your sudden neutrality (brought on by the necessity of integrating your huge conquests.)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 07, 2019 11:18 AM (J+mig)
You may choose only between our slate of choices. May the lesser evil win! Either way, we win.
*chef's kiss*
Posted by: The deep state is the uniparty at October 07, 2019 11:19 AM (ZpLiV)
killing over a hundred thousand non-combatant civilians at once is
immoral. I take the position that, because of the ends sought, it was
moral in that particular instance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2019 10:58 AM (Kpl3J)
I've taken the position for 50 years that it was MROE moral to kill a hundred thousand than it was to kill ALL of them. Because that's what an invasion of the home islands would have had to accomplish: killing every last man and woman, and likely all the children would have died, too.
(Ever been to Saipan? The signs at the cliffs where all the Japanese women and children leapt to their deaths - the ones in Japanese, anyway - *still* read as if it was truth that the Americans would eat all the children and rape all the women, and suicide was the only honorable out for those folks.)
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2019 11:23 AM (T3K6c)
There are some elements of the story that reminded me of Jacobs ladder and the Thin Red Line.
I would highly recommend everyone see it in a theater and soon before it gets spoiled by people revealing it.
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 07, 2019 11:24 AM (tJHro)
SWINE'y TODD..............................hows it working out for you Chuckie,lying worth the Big Bucks, I know you spend thousands weekly on the facial hair halloween thingie looks good on you and the PIG.
Posted by: saf at October 07, 2019 11:29 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 07, 2019 11:30 AM (sGtp+)
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So did I. Phoenix's performance is phenomenal.
(No spoilers)
I thought it was a very good film, with nicely done shorthand to Scorsese's King of Comedy and Taxi Driver.
With Scorsese in the background, it's hard to know how much of this movie might have been him taking the handlebars, but if it's all Phillips, then the heretofore gross-out-comedy director is really hitting full stride.
I don't think there is anything to fear from this movie, as long as you don't shy away from gritty. I read a quote from Phillips who said that if you can't tell that Joker is the bad guy by the end of the movie, that says something about you.
And the final scene clinches it.
We can feel some amount of sympathy for Arthur through most of the movie. He certainly is a victim through some of it. But as he begins to get what he sees as "control" of his life, he loses us as he cares more about how big an effect he can have.
What I noted at the end of the movie is that while the more comic book-style movies are violating comic traditions all over the place, the gritty and realistic Joker actually resolves itself, rather affirming some comic cannon.
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